AoSHQ Podcast: Guest, Jon Gabriel

Ricochet Editor Jon Gabriel joins Ace, Gabe and Drew to discuss Grandma Clinton's hijinks and more.

Jon's digest of UraniumGate -- a good, brief roadmap through the corruption.

Intro: Radioactive - The Firm
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@sacolson @AceofSpadesHQ "Atypical business model": https://t.co/WMpneBsrOt
— Starless (@starless941) April 24, 2015

Posted by: Andy at 02:45 PM

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1 Pod People!

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 02:44 PM (evdj2)

2 So, who was the drunk dude in the beginning?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2015 02:46 PM (/kVvc)

3 Who is on next week?

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 02:47 PM (evdj2)

4 So, who was the drunk dude in the beginning?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2015 02:46 PM (/kVvc)

Cain?

Posted by: willow at April 24, 2015 02:48 PM (nqBYe)

5 Lets draft Toby928 for next week

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 24, 2015 02:48 PM (R8hU8)

6 Who is on next week?
Posted by: toby928

Submit that as your question for next week!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 02:49 PM (18RzJ)

7 AtC is gonna be pissed that people are moving in on her podcast territory.

Posted by: a not at all groveling due to past comments, Moron at April 24, 2015 02:49 PM (1FyZ2)

8 Ace should have a permanent link to the "global warming" song he sang a few episodes ago. "If it's hot it's global warming/If it's cold it's global warming/If it's snowing it's global warming/If there's a drought it's global warming..."

Posted by: Sunni LeBeouf at April 24, 2015 02:49 PM (xkSSa)

9 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 02:50 PM (kff5f)

10 hi

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 02:50 PM (AkOaV)

11 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 02:50 PM (kff5f)

12 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 02:50 PM (kff5f)

Careful, Allen.

Repetitive postings tends to turn one into....MUMR.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2015 02:51 PM (/kVvc)

13 The newest term is: Global Climate Crisis du jour.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 24, 2015 02:52 PM (Spluw)

14 Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2015 02:51 PM (/kVvc)

You take that back!

Besides, y'all would think I was sick if I didn't post my normal openings.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 02:52 PM (kff5f)

15 AAAARGGHHH!!!!

Millennial idiots talking millennial idiocy in earshot. Apart from sounding like metrosexual valley girls, the stupid just burns!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 02:53 PM (h4vJk)

16 Let's all invite the Machinist Union to our front porches and run them off with guns.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 24, 2015 02:54 PM (wlDny)

17 12 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 02:50 PM (kff5f)

What, the podcast?

Posted by: Piercello at April 24, 2015 02:56 PM (QJCCx)

18 Repetitive postings tends to turn one into....MUMR.

But Burn it Down and Salt the Earth is always on topic.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2015 02:56 PM (0NdlF)

19 I'd love it if the various podcasts had a transcript to go with 'em. For when audio isn't suitable.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 24, 2015 02:56 PM (7x4lH)

20 What, the podcast?

Posted by: Piercello at April 24, 2015 02:56 PM (QJCCx)

I dunno. It's just cathartic to say.

Mostly it's a generic "it." Sometimes it's a specific "it."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 02:56 PM (kff5f)

21 Apart from sounding like metrosexual valley girls, the stupid just burns!!!

I take it they don't look like valley girls.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2015 02:56 PM (0NdlF)

22 >>>Careful, Allen.

Repetitive postings tends to turn one into....MUMR.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2015 02:51 PM (/kVvc)<<

All burning it down, scattering the stones, and salting the earth where it stood and no play make Jack a dull boy.
All burning it down, scattering the stones, and salting the earth where it stood and no play make Jack a dull boy.
All burning it down, scattering the stones, and salting the earth where it stood and no play make Jack a dull boy.
All burning it down, scattering the stones, and salting the earth where it stood and no play make Jack a dull boy.
All burning it down, scattering the stones, and salting the earth where it stood and no play make Jack a dull boy...

Posted by: Jack Torrance at April 24, 2015 02:56 PM (1FyZ2)

23 Anybody watch Botched last night? Yikes!

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2015 02:57 PM (wAQA5)

24 Seattle liberals furious that they have to pay higher prices for meals because of $15 /hr minimum wage.

http://bit.ly/1GqbpgY

Schadenboner can cut diamonds.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 02:57 PM (18RzJ)

25 Careful, Allen.

Repetitive postings tends to turn one into....MUMR.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 24, 2015 02:51 PM (/kVvc)

But he didn't talk of Anna.

Where is Anna!

Why can't she see how great I'd be for her?!

Posted by: MUMR at April 24, 2015 02:57 PM (Lqb+9)

26 Honestly I think the Yellowstone supervolcano is a big fat pussy.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2015 02:58 PM (IPzoI)

27 I take it they don't look like valley girls.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2015 02:56 PM

They're guys. I should have been clearer.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 02:58 PM (h4vJk)

28 >>> Millennial idiots talking millennial idiocy in earshot. Apart from sounding like metrosexual valley girls, the stupid just burns!!!

I'm sorry! I was in an art museum in NY once and two lefty Upper West Side Ladies-that-lunch types started talking trash about conservatives. Was all I could to not try to interject, because oh, the stupid burnt. I just put on my nonchalant face and went on to the next painting.

If they are in your area, and you are not at Johns Hopkins, award your excellent self control with a tasty tasty hate shake!

Posted by: LizLem at April 24, 2015 02:58 PM (yRwC8)

29 Did I hear Ace doing the pencil tap?

Posted by: Chupacabras at April 24, 2015 02:59 PM (l2max)

30
Does Drew sound all Drewey?

Like a Drew?

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2015 02:59 PM (IPzoI)

31 They're guys. I should have been clearer.

Burn it down. Salt the earth.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 24, 2015 02:59 PM (0NdlF)

32 Also, when I heard that atypical business model, I thought I was going to pop a blood vessel.

Posted by: Chupacabras at April 24, 2015 03:00 PM (l2max)

33 Hey, remember when the Left hated nukes? They even used to have concerts because concerts stop teh nukes!

Now they're all, Yay! Nukes for Iran!

I wonder what happened to completely change decades of Leftist anti-nuke ideology?

Hmmmm.....

Oh yeah. It's bad for America to have nukes. But giving Muzzies nukes? Well, if the Obamessiah says it's OK...

Posted by: Citizen X at April 24, 2015 03:00 PM (7ObY1)

34 Damn, can't get the podcast because iTunes says I don't have iTunes and must install iTunes and the iTunes I have won't install the new update even if I do it manually.

and swhisher requires some script to run and I get tired of turning scripts on and off all the time and I have scripts turned off because I dont' know what else the scripts are doing which is why you can't get the thing you want without the scripts running because the interweb is using bait to lure unsuspecting innocent people into downloading stuff to get the cute and shinny thing they bait you with.

Never get off the boat, never go outside, never run internet scripts because NSA/CIA/FBI/DEA/AT&F adn the Rockefellers.

Posted by: Gander Lander at April 24, 2015 03:00 PM (2EMtV)

35 Submit that as your question for next week!

*snort* Exactly.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 03:01 PM (evdj2)

36 In The Way We Were, Barbra Streisand was all about ensure that Franco got nukes.

Posted by: Chupacabras at April 24, 2015 03:02 PM (l2max)

37 If they are in your area, and you are not at Johns Hopkins, award your excellent self control with a tasty tasty hate shake!
Posted by: LizLem at April 24, 2015 02:58 PM

It wasn't even political stoopid. Just random, daily life kind of stoopid. But it burnz!!! Gah....I need a hate shake. Fortunately, while I'm in Boston at the moment, there are hate shakes within walking distance of the fortress of legal solitude at the end of the day.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:02 PM (h4vJk)

38 Don't go all Buster Bloodvessel.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2015 03:02 PM (IPzoI)

39 A podcast thread. A podcast thread. I never know what to wear, what to talk about...

Posted by: Kraken at April 24, 2015 03:02 PM (sdxPm)

40 Ensuring

Posted by: Chupacabras at April 24, 2015 03:02 PM (l2max)

41 All I have to do is hide from you guys until something good happens, and then keep hiding so I don't give up that momentum!

Posted by: Hillary! at April 24, 2015 03:02 PM (FcR7P)

42
rickb223, proof that leftists are mentally ill.
ANYONE with even one functioning brain cell could see the outcome a million miles away.
Cannot believe we are losing to them.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 24, 2015 03:03 PM (m3iiU)

43 I thought the only fast-food available in Boston was Dunkin' Donuts.

Posted by: Chupacabras at April 24, 2015 03:03 PM (l2max)

44 I still want to know if I'm the only moron who liked the movie, Interstellar .

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 24, 2015 03:04 PM (P7ulB)

45 So... I can't watch that Seattle $15/hr min wage video, but nothing in the article stood out as "liberals" being upset about it.

The author of the piece obviously was, but since that person writes for a sight called "Right Wing News," I'm not thinking they're liberal.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 03:05 PM (kff5f)

46 The newest term is: Global Climate Crisis du jour.

I thought it was Global Climate Chaos?

Posted by: tu3031 at April 24, 2015 03:05 PM (YFFpo)

47 Millennial idiots talking millennial idiocy in earshot. Apart from
sounding like metrosexual valley girls, the stupid just burns!!!

My cow-orkers are talking about weddings. The old guys are all "we did blah blah because that's what my wife and her mother wanted...I coulda bought a boat with that money." The young guys all sound like little girls dreaming about their Special Princess Day.

It can't be the water, we all drink the same water...

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:06 PM (/kI1Q)

48 44 I still want to know if I'm the only moron who liked the movie, Interstellar .
Posted by: Cruzinator at April 24, 2015 03:04 PM (P7ulB)

From what I can recall others saying they thought it was ok to "meh"

I think the harshest criticism of it I saw was about poor sound mixing.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 24, 2015 03:06 PM (z/Ubi)

49 Cruzinator, it was good, but depressing. Wanted to go play in traffic after watching.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 24, 2015 03:07 PM (+aCe4)

50 "Honestly I think the Yellowstone super volcano is a big fat pussy."

Don't taunt Yellowstone Happy Fun Caldera.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 24, 2015 03:07 PM (LA7Cm)

51 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 03:05 PM (kff5f)

I did like the whole, "we're getting rid of tips. For fairness. Oh, also, we're adding an 18% surcharge. For fairness."

Which essentially means they're forcing everyone to tip 18% and that instead of that tip going to the waiter, it goes to the restaurant. Smart.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:07 PM (AkOaV)

52 HR braucht, but not the same kool aid.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 24, 2015 03:08 PM (+aCe4)

53
I still want to know if I'm the only moron who liked the movie, Interstellar .

My sister lurved it. But she isn't OneOfUS.

So nevermind.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2015 03:08 PM (IPzoI)

54 It can't be the water, we all drink the same water...

It's all the soy in their diets.

I mean, I'm the one who did most of the planning for my "Event" (which occurred after the wedding by several months), but a) I was paying for it and b) it meant I got to wear a sword at my ~~wedding~~ Event.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 03:08 PM (kff5f)

55 So... I can't watch that Seattle $15/hr min wage video, but nothing in the article stood out as "liberals" being upset about

I can't see the video either. I was assuming it was on there.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:09 PM (18RzJ)

56 Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:06 PM (/kI1Q)

Oh, be fair now. I know a lot of recently married millennials, of COURSE the women made all the decisions and cared about the wedding and whatnot. The guys just footed the ($40k+) bill.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:09 PM (AkOaV)

57 @HR

The fluoridated water damaged our life essence.

Posted by: Chupacabras at April 24, 2015 03:09 PM (5npD/)

58
Oh, be fair now. I know a lot of recently married millennials, of COURSE the women made all the decisions and cared about the wedding and whatnot. The guys just footed the ($40k+) bill.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:09 PM (AkOaV)

They'll be paying more than that when they hit their earning peak and their wives divorce them.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2015 03:10 PM (2Ojst)

59 40k for a wedding? Ummm, no.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 24, 2015 03:11 PM (m3iiU)

60 The fluoridated water damaged our life essence.

Which is why I only drink pure grain alcohol with rain water.

Posted by: Gen. Buck Bandersnatch at April 24, 2015 03:11 PM (JtwS4)

61 Which essentially means they're forcing everyone to tip 18% and that instead of that tip going to the waiter, it goes to the restaurant. Smart.

Yeah, I saw that, and *I* wouldn't knowingly eat at such an establishment, but I wasn't seeing a whole lot of outrage.

I guess I was just expecting something more along the lines of that woman from Austin a few months ago who was crying about how she was One of the Good People ("I voted for every blah blah") and how it wasn't fair that she couldn't afford to live in Austin anymore.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 03:11 PM (kff5f)

62 know a lot of recently married millennials, of COURSE the women made
all the decisions and cared about the wedding and whatnot. The guys just
footed the ($40k+) bill.

That's exactly the opposite of what's going on in my office this afternoon.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:11 PM (/kI1Q)

63 I still want to know if I'm the only moron who liked the movie, Interstellar .

I was barely whelmed after all the FX hype, and Mr Mumbles was a poor casting job for Cooper, but the story was decent.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 03:11 PM (evdj2)

64 Oh yay me! AccuWeather says my city is under a tornado watch for this afternoon. Glad I'm at work.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:11 PM (18RzJ)

65 What I'm finding about "no tipping" restaurants is that it isn't discouraged. Meaning, feel free to go ahead and tip us if you want. On top of the increased price.

Posted by: Chupacabras at April 24, 2015 03:11 PM (sPO/s)

66
Which is why I only drink pure grain alcohol with rain water.

And some Cran-Apple.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2015 03:12 PM (IPzoI)

67 44 I still want to know if I'm the only moron who liked the movie, Interstellar .

--
I liked it.

Watching the Vikings finale. Oy. 50 links of chain mail.

Posted by: @votermom at April 24, 2015 03:12 PM (Xo+lV)

68 I thought the only fast-food available in Boston was Dunkin' Donuts.
Posted by: Chupacabras at April 24, 2015 03:03 PM

Nonsense. You're only saying that because there's one Dunkin' Donuts franchise every 50 yards.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:12 PM (h4vJk)

69 I really liked Watchmen (except for the end) and Dredd.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 24, 2015 03:12 PM (m3iiU)

70 >>> Besides, y'all would think I was sick if I didn't post my normal openings.

True. Its like saying Good Morning or something

Posted by: Bigby's Offhand at April 24, 2015 03:12 PM (3ZtZW)

71 Which is why I only drink pure grain alcohol with rain water.

I do prefer water with malt and hops.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:12 PM (/kI1Q)

72 69 I really liked Watchmen (except for the end) and Dredd.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 24, 2015 03:12 PM (m3iiU)

Which Dredd, Stallone or Urban?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2015 03:13 PM (2Ojst)

73 Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2015 03:10 PM (2Ojst)

Some.

Some were smart enough to get pre-nups.

I do have one buddy though who was 28 when his 26 year old wife left him for another guy. This is after they'd been married for 3 or 4 years and had 3 kids (some before they were married)... and she waited until AFTER he had closed on his first house (near her family, an hour away from his work) before leaving him.

In court, she got the kids, the house, alimony, and child support. He got the Honda Pilot.

Oh, and the new boyfriend now sleeps in his bed every night, raises his kids, and the ex and her boyfriend loaf around all day while my buddy has to pay the mortgage, send the ex money, and pay rent on his shitty little apartment.

Sounds fair, right?

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:13 PM (AkOaV)

74 I do prefer water with malt and hops.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:12 PM (/kI1Q)

I prefer milk with ice cream, chocolate sauce, and malt. Well blended.

Does that count?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 03:13 PM (kff5f)

75 Rick,

Under a tornado watch here also.

Kinda figured the weather was going to be kinda severe with the insane humidity last night and still in the mid 70s at 1 a.m.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at April 24, 2015 03:13 PM (OsWis)

76 71 Which is why I only drink pure grain alcohol with rain water.

I do prefer water with malt and hops.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:12 PM (/kI1Q)

So you only drink Stella Artois.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 24, 2015 03:14 PM (z/Ubi)

77
Insomniac , Urban!
Stallone...good God man... (walks off muttering to self)

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 24, 2015 03:14 PM (+aCe4)

78 Does that count?

That does sound good, given that I'm not allowed malt and hops at my desk.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:15 PM (/kI1Q)

79 Water? Like, from the toilet?

Posted by: Chupacabras at April 24, 2015 03:15 PM (sPO/s)

80 Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:11 PM (/kI1Q)

Yikes. Feel sorry for you, sounds like you work with some real winners haha

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:15 PM (AkOaV)

81 The young guys all sound like little girls dreaming about their Special Princess Day.

It can't be the water, we all drink the same water...
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:06 PM

I agree about the soy. But the stoopid...I swear these guys sound like middle-school girls.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:15 PM (h4vJk)

82 and she waited until AFTER he had closed on his first house (near her family, an hour away from his work) before leaving him.

Of course she did.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2015 03:15 PM (2Ojst)

83 I said rose cummerbunds! Not pink! Can't you change your dress colour!?! You've ruined EVERYTHING!!!!

*slams door*

*flounces onto bed and sobs into pillow*

Posted by: Male Millennial Princess at April 24, 2015 03:15 PM (G4aHK)

84 I really liked Watchmen (except for the end) and Dredd.

I saw Watchmen three times. Once in the theater and twice on the big screen because I really wanted to like it but something was off. I finally realized that I hated all the characters except Rorschach. Which was probably the intent but it still gnawed at me.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 03:16 PM (evdj2)

85 77
Insomniac , Urban!
Stallone...good God man... (walks off muttering to self)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 24, 2015 03:14 PM (+aCe4)

Just making sure.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2015 03:16 PM (2Ojst)

86 Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 24, 2015 03:11 PM (m3iiU)

Thats on the low side. Cheaping out on everything, really searching for off-season times and cheap venues.

Coworker of mine just spent $75k on his wedding. Nothing special, 100ish people.

Nice venue I guess.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:16 PM (AkOaV)

87 So we got this dude/girl/thing doing air quality testing in our cubicle farm because the ceiling tiles asploded during the spring melt on the roof and all the stuff behind it is asbestos.

Which they changed out while we were sitting there, of course. Now we're hanging out while she/it ran out for a smoke. HA!

Posted by: Bigby's Offhand at April 24, 2015 03:16 PM (3ZtZW)

88 "Dredd"

Dredd was surprisingly okay.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 24, 2015 03:16 PM (LA7Cm)

89 $12k in flowers ALONE by the way for anyone considering getting married.

Fucking. Flowers.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:16 PM (AkOaV)

90 73 Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2015 03:10 PM (2Ojst)

Some.

Some were smart enough to get pre-nups.

I do have one buddy though who was 28 when his 26 year old wife left him for another guy. This is after they'd been married for 3 or 4 years and had 3 kids (some before they were married)... and she waited until AFTER he had closed on his first house (near her family, an hour away from his work) before leaving him.

In court, she got the kids, the house, alimony, and child support. He got the Honda Pilot.

Oh, and the new boyfriend now sleeps in his bed every night, raises his kids, and the ex and her boyfriend loaf around all day while my buddy has to pay the mortgage, send the ex money, and pay rent on his shitty little apartment.

Sounds fair, right?
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:13 PM (AkOaV)

Last night I heard a radio ad for a law office and they were specifically targeting men getting divorced as clients. Very smart.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 24, 2015 03:16 PM (z/Ubi)

91 I do prefer water with malt and hops.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:12 PM

*sidles over to Radish*

How you doin'?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:17 PM (h4vJk)

92 I agree about the soy. But the stoopid...I swear these guys sound like middle-school girls.

They are thinking that once they slip that ring on her finger, it's gonna be bj's and bacon sammiches every day.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:17 PM (18RzJ)

93
I couldn't believe how over-hyped Gravity was when I finally saw it.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2015 03:17 PM (IPzoI)

94 Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:13 PM (AkOaV)

I don't even have words.

No fault divorce *must* go away.
Or, if not "go away," then in no-fault there should be no alimony requirement, and whoever gets to keep X (house, car, whatever) should be the one stuck paying for it.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 03:18 PM (kff5f)

95 Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2015 03:15 PM (2Ojst)

Yes, the timing worked out impeccably for her.

But she swears she wasn't cheating on him or planning that out or anything.

She just happened to have a new boyfriend within a week of deciding she "needed space" from her husband and was considering divorcing him.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:18 PM (AkOaV)

96 Last night I heard a radio ad for a law office and they were specifically targeting men getting divorced as clients. Very smart.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 24, 2015 03:16 PM

Let me guess...Cordell & Cordell?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:18 PM (h4vJk)

97 Coworker of mine just spent $75k on his wedding.

*spit take* These are like normal people right? Not Hollywood producers or something?

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 03:18 PM (evdj2)

98
Lady In The Water was actually surprisingly good...

said no one ever.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2015 03:18 PM (IPzoI)

99
I LOVED Rorshach. Best anti-hero ever.

mynewhandle, I need to keep my little lady then because she also thinks 40K+ is insane.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at April 24, 2015 03:18 PM (+aCe4)

100 >>>> I finally realized that I hated all the characters except Rorschach. Which was probably the intent

Actually, no. It came as an embarassing thing to the writer, who also wrote V for Vendetta. I think you were supposed to like the big blue guy mostest.

Posted by: Bigby's Offhand at April 24, 2015 03:19 PM (3ZtZW)

101 84 I really liked Watchmen (except for the end) and Dredd.

I saw Watchmen three times. Once in the theater and twice on the big screen because I really wanted to like it but something was off. I finally realized that I hated all the characters except Rorschach. Which was probably the intent but it still gnawed at me.
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 03:16 PM (evdj2)

Zack Snyder cannot put a soul into a movie so it feels hollow.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 24, 2015 03:19 PM (z/Ubi)

102 Coworker of mine just spent $75k on his wedding. Nothing special, 100ish people.

Spent $200.00 on mine. License, ring, her mom & dad, my mom & sister and the JP.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:19 PM (18RzJ)

103 They are thinking that once they slip that ring on her finger, it's gonna be bj's and bacon sammiches every day.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:17 PM

I'm thinking no sensible woman will give these beta males the time of day. At least, for the sake of the gene pool, I hope not.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:19 PM (h4vJk)

104 97 Coworker of mine just spent $75k on his wedding.

*spit take* These are like normal people right? Not Hollywood producers or something?
Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 03:18 PM (evdj2)

Just imagine what he'll spend on his divorce.

Posted by: Kraken at April 24, 2015 03:19 PM (sdxPm)

105 39
A podcast thread. A podcast thread. I never know what to wear, what to talk about...

Posted by: Kraken at April 24, 2015 03:02 PM (sdxPm)

I hear that the supremacy of crossbows and the war of Northern Aggression are good icebreakers.

Posted by: HTWFAIP at April 24, 2015 03:20 PM (ecDRv)

106 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 03:18 PM (kff5f)

I think if the wife cheats on the husband and/or leaves him on her own, she shouldn't get shit.

You know, unless she had a good reason. Like he was beating her or the kids or something.

But in general? Fuck that. She's never even had a job. He knocked her up in his early 20s, worked his balls off to support her and the family, and it turns out she's banging some other dude behind his back AND she gets all of his shit? And his kids?

Cmon now, in what universe is THAT fair?

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:20 PM (AkOaV)

107 Nonsense. You're only saying that because there's one Dunkin' Donuts franchise every 50 yards.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:12 PM

My little "seacoast village" in MA is dead set on keeping franchise operations out. Just locally owned businesses, please. I don't know if there's an actual bylaw forbidding them -- as there is for neon signage -- but we have only a Cumberland Farms convenience store owned by Outsiders.

And a Dunkin' Donuts.

Posted by: MrScribbler at April 24, 2015 03:20 PM (P8YHq)

108 But she swears she wasn't cheating on him or planning that out or anything.

She just happened to have a new boyfriend within a week of deciding she "needed space" from her husband and was considering divorcing him.

And yet if he were to murder the pair, he would be the one going to jail. That's Justice for ya.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 03:20 PM (evdj2)

109 They are thinking that once they slip that ring on her finger, it's gonna be bj's and bacon sammiches every day.

Obviously they've never spoken to someone who is married.

***
I couldn't believe how over-hyped Gravity was when I finally saw it.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2015 03:17 PM (IPzoI)

That's the one with Sandra Bullock and... George Clooney? And you were *surprised* it was over-hyped?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 03:20 PM (kff5f)

110 Spent $200.00 on mine. License, ring, her mom & dad, my mom & sister and the JP.

How much were her dad's shotgun & shells?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at April 24, 2015 03:20 PM (DT3rQ)

111 96 Last night I heard a radio ad for a law office and they were specifically targeting men getting divorced as clients. Very smart.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 24, 2015 03:16 PM

Let me guess...Cordell & Cordell?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:18 PM (h4vJk)

Yes I believe so.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 24, 2015 03:20 PM (z/Ubi)

112 I think you were supposed to like the big blue guy mostest.

??? Dr Manhattan was the biggest dick of all!

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 03:21 PM (evdj2)

113 How you doin'?

Tonight I have beer I made myself.

It may be crappy (my dad says it's good but he has to say that because he's my dad) but it's fun to drink beer I made myself.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:21 PM (/kI1Q)

114 "Fucking. Flowers."

Screw that. Get the #1 down at the JP's office and be done with it. Not as romantic, granted, but the end result is the same.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 24, 2015 03:21 PM (LA7Cm)

115 Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 03:18 PM (evdj2)

Totally normal guy, does not make a ton of money. Normal white collar job.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:21 PM (AkOaV)

116 $200? Was the ring made out of an old gum wrapper?

Posted by: Chupacabras at April 24, 2015 03:21 PM (l2max)

117 Posted by: MrScribbler at April 24, 2015 03:20 PM

You must be either on the Cape or from lovely Manchester-by-the-Sea. LOL

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:21 PM (h4vJk)

118 *spit take* These are like normal people right? Not Hollywood producers or something?

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 03:18 PM (evdj2)

I think both of my weddings (the wedding and the "Event") cost, between them, $1500.00.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 03:22 PM (kff5f)

119 Actually, no. It came as an embarassing thing to the writer, who also wrote V for Vendetta. I think you were supposed to like the big blue guy mostest.
Posted by: Bigby's Offhand at April 24, 2015 03:19 PM (3ZtZW)

True. Apparently Alan Moore's intent in writing Rorshach was to make him an appalling character to be reviled. In his proggy left-wing circle, I'm sure that went as intended. However, he was aghast at how many people liked Rorshach best out of all the characters.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2015 03:22 PM (2Ojst)

120 Posted by: MrScribbler at April 24, 2015 03:20 PM (P8YHq)

and an elitist prep school?

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:22 PM (AkOaV)

121 Spent $200.00 on mine. License, ring, her mom & dad, my mom & sister and the JP.

How much were her dad's shotgun & shells?

None. It's our third each. They love me. And I have awesome in-laws.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:23 PM (18RzJ)

122 >>>>but we have only a Cumberland Farms convenience store owned by Outsiders.

OUTLANDER!! WE HAVE YOUR FRANCHISE!!!1!

Posted by: Bigby's Offhand at April 24, 2015 03:23 PM (3ZtZW)

123 103 They are thinking that once they slip that ring on her finger, it's gonna be bj's and bacon sammiches every day.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:17 PM

I'm thinking no sensible woman will give these beta males the time of day. At least, for the sake of the gene pool, I hope not.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Reality, she a harsh mistress. Bacon, only occasionally. Beejers - I'm laughing so hard, eyes are watering.

Posted by: Kraken at April 24, 2015 03:23 PM (sdxPm)

124 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 03:22 PM (kff5f)

Whoa. Lucky man.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:23 PM (AkOaV)

125 I don't think there is alimony in Texas though most treat the child support payments like it was.

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 24, 2015 03:23 PM (P7ulB)

126 Tonight I have beer I made myself.

It may be crappy (my dad says it's good but he has to say that because he's my dad) but it's fun to drink beer I made myself.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:21 PM

Niiice. What kind? I'm running low on my last batch of IPA. It's time to brew again soon. Warm weather beckons. Eventually...And it is fun to have people enjoy a beer you made.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:23 PM (h4vJk)

127 She just happened to have a new boyfriend within a week of deciding she "needed space" from her husband and was considering divorcing him.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:18 PM (AkOaV)

Mere coincidence...

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2015 03:23 PM (2Ojst)

128 I don't even have words. No fault divorce *must* go away. Or, if not "go away," then in no-fault there should be no alimony requirement, and whoever gets to keep X (house, car, whatever) should be the one stuck paying for it.

Delaware has no-fault, and got rid of alimony. Even better, in most cases, joint custody is the norm. In most cases, the house has to be sold and divded.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 24, 2015 03:23 PM (Spluw)

129
44 I still want to know if I'm the only moron who liked the movie, Interstellar .
...............................
Everybody digs me.

Posted by: Matthew McConauGhey at April 24, 2015 03:24 PM (wAQA5)

130 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:21 PM (h4vJk)

I think I know which town. Near the cape is my guess, but not quite on the cape.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:24 PM (AkOaV)

131 Yes I believe so.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 24, 2015 03:20 PM

I swear, those guys have been spending a fortune advertising. I must hear 3 of their commercials just driving in to work every morning.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:24 PM (h4vJk)

132 I think if the wife cheats on the husband and/or leaves him on her own, she shouldn't get shit.

To me that's not "no fault." And if she's at fault for the divorce, then absolutely she shouldn't get anything. As you said- exceptions for "he was beating me," apply.

The problem is most guys, when their wife says "I want a divorce," are either too happy to get out of the relationship OR are so dumbfounded that they can't really respond. In either case, she gets to set all the terms.

I don't even want to think about going through such a thing, but if I did, I'd be finding the best lawyer I could to make sure that if she's the one who is leaving, that I'm not the one getting screwed.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 03:24 PM (kff5f)

133 $200? Was the ring made out of an old gum wrapper?

Plain band. It's what she wanted.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:25 PM (18RzJ)

134 (the wedding and the "Event")

Did you get two cakes? I would totally do things that way to get two cakes.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:25 PM (/kI1Q)

135 None. It's our third each. They love me. And I have awesome in-laws.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:23 PM (18RzJ)

Third WEDDING each?

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:25 PM (AkOaV)

136 125 I don't think there is alimony in Texas though most treat the child support payments like it was.
Posted by: Cruzinator at April 24, 2015 03:23 PM (P7ulB)

That's all child support is - extra alimony. It has nothing to do with the actual cost of supporting a kid, as it's based entirely off of income, like the income tax calculation chart. There are absolutely no requirements that the mother use it for the kids' benefit, and there is no accountability mechanism.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2015 03:26 PM (2Ojst)

137 And some Cran-Apple.

I'm not on my period.

Posted by: Gen. Buck Bandersnatch at April 24, 2015 03:26 PM (JtwS4)

138 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 03:24 PM (kff5f)

Well, that was his mistake.

She wanted to go to a mediator first.

Ended up getting nasty quickly so he brought in a lawyer, but it was probably too late in the game at that point.

Plus, (and I did get a kick out of this) in the divorce settlement, he ended up having to pay for both HIS attorney AND hers, since she had no money (no job).

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:26 PM (AkOaV)

139 None. It's our third each. They love me. And I have awesome in-laws.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:23 PM (18RzJ)

I see you're no stranger to pain.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2015 03:26 PM (2Ojst)

140 Niiice. What kind? I'm running low on my last batch of IPA. It's time to brew again soon.

Dunkelweizen.

I just moved to a tiny place, but I think I can still do 2.5 gal batches on the stove. Porter next, maybe.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:27 PM (/kI1Q)

141 Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:24 PM

Actually, now that I think of it, I could guess a couple of not-quite-on-the-Cape towns that might fit the bill. Duxbury comes to mind...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:27 PM (h4vJk)

142 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:27 PM (h4vJk)

I was thinking Marion.

It fits the bill: Cumberland farms, Dunkin Donuts, no other fast food / franchises in sight.

This is a fun game. Let's see how well I know my Masshole geography.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:28 PM (AkOaV)

143 129
44 I still want to know if I'm the only moron who liked the movie, Interstellar .
...............................
Everybody digs me.
Posted by: Matthew McConauGhey

Interstellar - better than Gravity, where nothing happens. Except where Clooney dies, which is always good. Both were better than that movie that starred Nooooomi Rapace whatever. Oh yeah, remember Solara? Clooney was in that too. It sucked.

Posted by: Kraken at April 24, 2015 03:28 PM (sdxPm)

144 >>> Apparently Alan Moore's intent in writing Rorshach was to make him an appalling character to be reviled.

Zactly that. If you notice, a lot of the philosphical bits were about crossing boundaries. Rorshach crossed the boundary by violating laws and also by killing the villians. The Comedian was the stereotypical Tool of the Patriarchy, so Not A Hero plus Rapey. Dr Manhattan was Above It All but became non-Human in the final analysis. The only happy endings were for the NiteOwl guy and the girl, but only because they looked the other way and decided, Candide-like, to tend to their own selves.

Posted by: Bigby's Offhand at April 24, 2015 03:29 PM (3ZtZW)

145 Dunkelweizen.

I just moved to a tiny place, but I think I can still do 2.5 gal batches on the stove. Porter next, maybe.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 24, 2015 03:27 PM

Nice. I see you're a dark beer girl. My mom's the same way. Not into lighter ales, but she loves the stouts my dad makes.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:29 PM (h4vJk)

146 Third WEDDING each?

Yeah. I'm 52. First one lasted 18 years. Then she up and walked. Second one lasted 2. (Never do crazy)

Her first was 4 yrs at 18 -22. Second one was later and laster 12.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:29 PM (18RzJ)

147 also some sort of nood for this paying attention

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:29 PM (AkOaV)

148 Delaware has no-fault, and got rid of alimony. Even better, in most cases, joint custody is the norm. In most cases, the house has to be sold and divded.

See, the custody thing is a sticky question even in the best circumstances. But the rest of that is the only way it can work.

Marriage (the institution, ceremonies, and social aspects anyway) was designed to protect women, to keep them from being used up and thrown out (among other things). That does not mean that it should be made into a weapon whereby a woman rakes a man over the coals.

No-fault divorce destroyed both of those. Now Marriage wasn't something that protected women fro being used up and thrown out, and it didn't take very long (in the grand scheme) for women then to start using divorce to their own advantage.

And failed marriage is sad. Marriages that fail because one or the other partner has decided to be evil? Those are worse.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at April 24, 2015 03:30 PM (kff5f)

149 Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:29 PM (18RzJ)

oh, well, fair enough.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:30 PM (AkOaV)

150 I see you're no stranger to pain.
Posted by: Insomniac

It's a distant memory. God blessed me this time.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:30 PM (18RzJ)

151 I don't think there is alimony in Texas though most treat the child support payments like it was.

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 24, 2015 03:23 PM (P7ulB)

If you have been married ten years or more then there is alimony.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 24, 2015 03:30 PM (R8hU8)

152
It's a distant memory. God blessed me this time.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2015 03:30 PM (18RzJ)

Well, good for you!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2015 03:31 PM (2Ojst)

153 Totally normal guy, does not make a ton of money. Normal white collar job.

$75K is most of a 3/2 house here.

Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 03:32 PM (evdj2)

154
I won't see Interstellar for a couple years til it trickles down into my lowly ambit.

I'll let you now then.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2015 03:32 PM (IPzoI)

155 Sidebar, i just read Gowdy's questions to Hillary, I freaking LOVE that guy!

Posted by: FCF at April 24, 2015 03:32 PM (kejii)

156 You must be either on the Cape or from lovely Manchester-by-the-Sea. LOL

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2015 03:21 PM

Close to the latter, a Cape Ann neighbor. No chi-chi prep school though.

Every time I go to the Other Cape, I feel as if I need a passport and credit check before entering.

Posted by: MrScribbler at April 24, 2015 03:34 PM (P8YHq)

157 Oh, and nood....

Posted by: MrScribbler at April 24, 2015 03:35 PM (P8YHq)

158 Posted by: MrScribbler at April 24, 2015 03:34 PM (P8YHq)

oh okay so I was wayyyyyyy off.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:36 PM (AkOaV)

159 Posted by: toby928(C) at April 24, 2015 03:32 PM (evdj2)

Well, I also live in a VERY high cost of living area.

$400-$500k for an entry level house.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 24, 2015 03:37 PM (AkOaV)

160 I still want to know if I'm the only moron who liked the movie, Interstellar .
Posted by: Cruzinator at April 24, 2015 03:04 PM (P7ulB)

Liked it, but you have to go in knowing it's a Christopher Nolan film. Meaning, be able to be alert and pay attention, grab a blanket because every shot in every film he does looks frickin' cold, and be prepared at the end to feel intellectually enlightened but slightly depressed. If you can handle those it's good times; I can so for me it is. But I can also see why it got the hate it did.

Posted by: LizLem at April 24, 2015 03:41 PM (yRwC8)

161 *Insert picture of Mickey Ex-Jonning with a cup o' java*

Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at April 24, 2015 03:44 PM (sCHw2)

162 Posted by: LizLem at April 24, 2015 03:41 PM (yRwC

That's a good description. I have to say the Matt Damon does play a character you would love to punch very well. His part in The Departed was longer but just as punchable.

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 24, 2015 03:47 PM (P7ulB)

163 The Mavericks are always a good music choice. I love those guys.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 24, 2015 04:17 PM (t2m1Y)

164 Number 1 trend on twitter

#SaySomethingNiceAboutHillary

They have spam bots pimping twitter

Wonder how much that cost

Posted by: Thunder B, Shapeshifter at April 24, 2015 04:41 PM (o8xDc)

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