GOP Led Senate Confirms Loretta Lynch To Be Attorney General

56-43

Mitch McConnell could have reinstated the filibuster to stop her. He didn't.

Mitch McConnell could have refused to bring her nomination to the floor. He didn't.

So, what did Mitch McConnell do? He voted for her confirmation.


This is who those Republicans think is qualified to be Attorney General of the United States of America.

Posted by: DrewM. at 03:09 PM




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1 Surprise Surprise Surprise

Posted by: Gomer Pyle at April 23, 2015 02:10 PM (W5DcG)

2 Well...I guess they showed me!
heh heh heh heh heh heh...

Posted by: Emperor Clusterfuck I at April 23, 2015 02:11 PM (YFFpo)

3 The NEXT hill will be the one to die on.

Posted by: El oh El at April 23, 2015 02:12 PM (XpAxm)

4 I'll add this to the list of GOP accomplishments straight away!

Posted by: John McCain at April 23, 2015 02:12 PM (pi/11)

5 Damn it.

Posted by: Old Hob at April 23, 2015 02:12 PM (Lp6I1)

6 Guns? Tar feather" Public execution? Total breakdown of society as we know it? what's it going to take?

Posted by: brainpimp at April 23, 2015 02:12 PM (zosQc)

7

Where is Harry Reid's brother when you need him?

Posted by: Time for a beat down at April 23, 2015 02:13 PM (agXt1)

8 Vote for us! We'll undo all the bad things the previous Congress did under Democrat control!













(hehehe, you dumbasses)

Posted by: Teh GOPe at April 23, 2015 02:13 PM (8hctH)

9 Yep, they'll get right on the conservative agenda blocking people who shouldn't be in power as SOON AS THEY GET A MAJORITY IN CONGRESS, uh something.

I'm DONE with the GOP

Posted by: evil_bun_bun at April 23, 2015 02:13 PM (FTXzR)

10 Now how much would you pay for President Lindsey Graham?

Posted by: Old Hob at April 23, 2015 02:14 PM (Lp6I1)

11 And Lindsey Graham is running for President??? and thinks he will get the Conservative vote???

/



bwa ha ahahahahahhahahahahaahahhahhahha

breathes....

ahshhhahahhhhahahahahhahaha

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 02:14 PM (qh617)

12 Great. When does she castrate me?

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at April 23, 2015 02:14 PM (oDCMR)

13 You play the Negro card, you win.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 23, 2015 02:14 PM (0FSuD)

14 Is this... news... to anyone?

I mean, we all knew this was coming.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 02:14 PM (AkOaV)

15 I find your pain most pleasing.

Posted by: SMOD at April 23, 2015 02:15 PM (G4aHK)

16 Must give President Petulant Cunt everything he asks for.

Posted by: McConnel Doctrine at April 23, 2015 02:15 PM (/6xrQ)

17 Recall:

John Bolton, absolutely well inside the boundaries of "mainstream" nominees for the post in question - UN Ambassador - was stymied, without remorse, by the Senate Dems.

Paul Wolfowitz, a very accomplished and serious (and even squishy on the edges in some ways, which will surprise many) was lynched (outside the Senate process) when he might have brought some common sense to the World Bank.

In Clinton's first term, a couple of his nominees - nothing special but not ridiculously corrupt or stupid, as Obama's nominees often are - self-destructed over what would now be seen as peccadilloes (sp?). Quickly. Without any really unreasonable media frenzy or partisan skulduggery.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2015 02:15 PM (afQnV)

18 Hannibal Lector for Surgeon General next..... No, we needs someone really loony. Rahm's brother.

Posted by: One Iron MacGuffin at April 23, 2015 02:15 PM (NjX7M)

19 How does Utah justify Orin Hatch?

Posted by: Old Hob at April 23, 2015 02:16 PM (Lp6I1)

20 Ayotte
Cochran
Collins
Flake
Graham
Hatch
Johnson
Kirk
McConnell
Portman

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 23, 2015 02:17 PM (fWAjv)

21 Posted by: SMOD

You sadistic bastard, you have no intention of ending our misery, do you?

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 23, 2015 02:17 PM (ZKzrr)

22 Or i could have just read the post

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 23, 2015 02:17 PM (fWAjv)

23 Democratically controlled US Senate

Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at April 23, 2015 02:17 PM (evdj2)

24 Anyone hear Juan McCain on Cavuto yesterday? He's all Miss Lindsey for prezzy.

Scum and bottom feeders.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 23, 2015 02:17 PM (FsuaD)

25 Frig this. Should've never left committee.

Graham, Flake and Hatch.

Posted by: Golfman at April 23, 2015 02:18 PM (uivt4)

26 peccadilloes (sp?).

Avenge me!

Posted by: Dan Quayle at April 23, 2015 02:18 PM (G4aHK)

27 GOP Led Senate Confirms Loretta Lynch To Be Attorney General


Just don't carp about it.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 23, 2015 02:18 PM (1deOB)

28 Reasonable take on Graham's "presidential campaign" musings: grab some delegates with a view toward having cards for a brokered convention.

Same with Pataki. Well-positioned favorite son candidacies are always about something, more often about the VP slot or the like. But this cycle might - might - actually make securing some chips for a brokered convention a non-insane prudential move.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2015 02:18 PM (afQnV)

29 We are waiting for Obama to leave office and be replace but is there any reason to believe things will change after that?

I genuinely believe this country is essentially over. It is something else now, and whatever it is, it needs to self-destruct or be destroyed for us to get back to where it was and where it should be.

Posted by: Tommy V at April 23, 2015 02:18 PM (NBoRH)

30 How does Utah justify Orin Hatch?

Oracle?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 23, 2015 02:18 PM (W5DcG)

31 56-43.... actually a few more than were needed to confirm...

THAT I am surprised by.... I thought it would be engineered to give more Rinos cover...

apparently... they just don't care what we think....

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 02:18 PM (qh617)

32 Not surprised. Fuck the GOPe. Spineless, dickless pieces of shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 23, 2015 02:18 PM (2Ojst)

33 13 You play the Negro card, you win.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 23, 2015 02:14 PM (0FSuD)

Sounded a lot better when MLK said it.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 23, 2015 02:18 PM (fWAjv)

34 Fucking jellyfish.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 23, 2015 02:19 PM (kivUY)

35 Well, really... they were faced with two choices:
1) Eternally block every nominee until Obama is out of office because every one of them is going to be a far left racist crank, the next likely worse than the previous one.
2) Pick this one because the job needs filling and they're all going to be awful

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 02:19 PM (39g3+)

36 For those of you keeping score at home. A vote for McConnell as majority leader will be counted as a vote for Lynch.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 23, 2015 02:19 PM (zauWW)

37 #34 Sorry, wrong thread.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 23, 2015 02:19 PM (kivUY)

38 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 23, 2015 02:17 PM (fWAjv)

Yeah, usual suspects.

If someone REALLY wanted to be a dick, they'd ask Rand to denounce or support his buddy Mitch over this one. (That's a weird relationship, borne of necessity I guess. Rand got Mitch re-elected.)

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 02:19 PM (AkOaV)

39 Ayotte and Flake provided cover for McCain.

Posted by: gracepmc at April 23, 2015 02:19 PM (xvd51)

40 Posted by: Tommy V at April 23, 2015 02:18 PM (NBoRH)

The only chance I see for this country... is if the next election is a referendum on the Government itself... and its powers...

But the only one I see talking about that stuff is Ted Cruz...

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 02:20 PM (qh617)

41 So how long until Lynch opens up on whitey? 24 or 48 hours?

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at April 23, 2015 02:20 PM (oDCMR)

42 37 #34 Sorry, wrong thread.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 23, 2015 02:19 PM (kivUY)

----

close ..... sooooo close....

Posted by: The Barrel at April 23, 2015 02:20 PM (NaV4z)

43 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 02:19 PM (39g3+)

Or 3) leave Holder in place. Yeah, he wants out, but fuck him. Better the asshole you know...

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 02:20 PM (AkOaV)

44 Hey, but we wrung some really tough concessions from Obama in exchange for the up-vote!

You don't think tee-off times like this just happen do you??

Posted by: Mitch 'Ninja Turtle Name: Mitch' McConnell at April 23, 2015 02:20 PM (DLu2s)

45 Trolling:Confirmed.

Posted by: steevy at April 23, 2015 02:20 PM (mGBKM)

46 Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at April 23, 2015 02:17 PM (ZKzrr)

Patience, I won the bid. Lowest bid.

Posted by: Yellowston Caldara at April 23, 2015 02:20 PM (S+el1)

47 The usual RINOs and DIABLO sellouts. We have no Party.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 23, 2015 02:20 PM (wlDny)

48 Gabe has a nood stompening but it will probably disappear.

Posted by: steevy at April 23, 2015 02:20 PM (mGBKM)

49 HOORAY!!! Our plan is working!

Posted by: Khruschev, Mao, and Stalin, Esq. at April 23, 2015 02:20 PM (sCHw2)

50 "There stands McConnell, like a stone wall."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 23, 2015 02:20 PM (8ZskC)

51 I am so f*cking sick of these idiots.

What is the point of voting for these spineless a--holes? There isn't a single vertebra among the lot of them.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 23, 2015 02:20 PM (lmdHn)

52 But the only one I see talking about that stuff is Ted Cruz...
Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 02:20 PM (qh617)

This.

Posted by: Golfman at April 23, 2015 02:21 PM (uivt4)

53 You sadistic bastard, you have no intention of ending our misery, do you?

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier


Perhaps after sixteen years of two female President Clintons you will have earned my mercy.

Posted by: SMOD at April 23, 2015 02:21 PM (G4aHK)

54 Nood Hillary

Posted by: flounder at April 23, 2015 02:21 PM (ecDRv)

55 If I learned anything from Reid, it's that the Majority leader decides what to put up for a vote and what to ignore.

So why did Mitch even put this up for a vote? Why not just sit on it? I'm sure he's sitting on lots of other stuff..

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 02:21 PM (AkOaV)

56 Government by Mincing Pussy-Boys

Posted by: Sharkman at April 23, 2015 02:21 PM (72D6h)

57 54
Nood Hillary




Brain bleach. Stat.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 23, 2015 02:21 PM (FsuaD)

58 Spineless quislings.

Posted by: LibertarianJim at April 23, 2015 02:22 PM (9TK8E)

59 So why did Mitch even put this up for a vote? Why not just sit on it? I'm sure he's sitting on lots of other stuff..

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 02:21 PM (AkOaV)


Because Obama called him out in a Press conference last week on it...

And he F'n CAVED....

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 02:22 PM (qh617)

60 You know that point in a sales pitch, that point where you think to yourself, 'I'm going to regret this', and you go ahead and take the deal?

Ya.

Posted by: EphramKG36 at April 23, 2015 02:22 PM (gtXzt)

61 Johnson? Correct to be disappointed, or have I not kept current on his "evolution" in office?

Flake. Pretty amazing how AZ - mostly sane on the state level, even better than that on some things like guns - has produced two fairly worthless senators. Flake's predecessor was, to me, a very smart and respectable guy who took his job seriously, even if he didn't always vote the right way. Like Sessions or Inhofe, not just "conservative" but smart serious people who worked hard to understand important issues and do something about them.

Ayotte. For some time a semi-lost cause, correct?

The way IL is going, who knows, maybe Kirk survives the next election? Classic case of fairly worthless (and it's more painful because there's no doubt he knows better on many issues) "better than the Dem" sort, but just barely, and in this case, not at all.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2015 02:23 PM (afQnV)

62 I didn't know fairies could stomp.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 23, 2015 02:23 PM (zauWW)

63 My friends, you have nothing to fear with my good friend Mitch McConell as the senate majority leader.

Posted by: John McCain, Card Carring Maverick at April 23, 2015 02:24 PM (TV9BR)

64 War on Woman averted. Thank 8lb. 9oz. baby Jesus!

Posted by: nip at April 23, 2015 02:24 PM (a6Odp)

65 Exactly what thread am I suppose to be in?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 23, 2015 02:24 PM (QyBQv)

66 @ 55: Hey, I held off on all that icky, wacko-bird "Tea-Bagger" policy stuff, didn't I?

Posted by: Mitch, 0Bama's Bitch at April 23, 2015 02:25 PM (sCHw2)

67 Exactly what thread am I suppose to be in?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


It matters not. In the end there is only pain.

Posted by: SMOD at April 23, 2015 02:26 PM (G4aHK)

68 61 Johnson? Correct to be disappointed, or have I not kept current on his "evolution" in office?-----

This is the final straw for me, as he is my senator.
He has gone from Tea Party candidate to I want to get along with Mitch the Bitch

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 23, 2015 02:26 PM (QyBQv)

69

What difference, at this point, does it make?1/1/!?!!!?1??

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 23, 2015 02:27 PM (HSmrB)

70 And I predict she will be worse than Holder the felon.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 23, 2015 02:27 PM (wlDny)

71 Rolling Stone, try this rape story.

Posted by: eman at April 23, 2015 02:27 PM (drCV6)

72 I didn't know fairies could stomp.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 23, 2015 02:23 PM (zauWW)


Fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me.

Posted by: Ozzy (All my hate cannot be found) at April 23, 2015 02:27 PM (O9qtX)

73 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Accused pederast Harry Reid at April 23, 2015 02:28 PM (TV9BR)

74 what shit, GOP leadership is shit.

Mcconnell conned us all. He's a democrat manchurian republican. He sucked up 2014 midterm money that could have gotten us more votes in NH, VA, and a few others.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at April 23, 2015 02:29 PM (bCJvd)

75 Another racist attorney general. Great.

Posted by: despair at April 23, 2015 02:29 PM (J6suc)

76 Not the first, but a blazingly clear example of how the GOP is not a serious opposition party (defined as seeking both the public good AND its own advancement).

You take the brazen lawlessness explicitly endorsed by this nominee (illegal immigration) and make it the disqualifying issue, and oppose her (or make a stink about not even bringing the nomination to the floor).

You take no meaningful hits from people who would ever vote for you. You raise the profile on a key issue in which the broader electorate backs your position - by huge margins.

Same political/substantive logic applied to the DHSappropriations bill. This case, however, was even easier - no ridiculous bogus "shutdown" nonsense to deal with.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2015 02:29 PM (afQnV)

77 63 My friends, you have nothing to fear with my good friend Mitch McConell as the senate majority leader.

Posted by: John McCain, Card Carring Maverick at April 23, 2015 02:24 PM (TV9BR)




But you have a LOT to fear from us, mofo.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 23, 2015 02:30 PM (oKE6c)

78 Mcconnell conned us all. He's a democrat manchurian republican. He sucked up 2014 midterm money that could have gotten us more votes in NH, VA, and a few others.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at April 23, 2015 02:29 PM (bCJvd)

Bullshit. Some of us tried to tell the rest exactly who he was.

Posted by: DrewM. at April 23, 2015 02:31 PM (2OdVw)

79 75
Another racist attorney general. Great.

Posted by: despair at April 23, 2015 02:29 PM (J6suc)

And sexist. It is going to be all sexism all the time for the evil lying, murderous, corrupt cunt AKA Hillary.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at April 23, 2015 02:32 PM (TV9BR)

80 You take the brazen lawlessness explicitly
endorsed by this nominee (illegal immigration) and make it the
disqualifying issue, and oppose her (or make a stink about not even
bringing the nomination to the floor).



You take no meaningful hits from people who would ever vote for you.
You raise the profile on a key issue in which the broader electorate
backs your position - by huge margins.



Same political/substantive logic applied to the DHSappropriations
bill. This case, however, was even easier - no ridiculous bogus
"shutdown" nonsense to deal with.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2015 02:29 PM (afQnV)


Exactly. Where are the Republicans shouting that this bitch is "far out of the mainstream," which she is, and refusing to vote for her? You know, the way the Reds treat a loyal American nominee.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 23, 2015 02:32 PM (oKE6c)

81 But you have a LOT to fear from us, mofo.
Posted by: Jay Guevara
****
please, "we" can't do nothing.
it's been proven. we must be insane to think we know what's right or wrong. 51 million illegals? whatever, good for country, obviously, that's why our leadership doesn't care obama breaking, ignoring the law.
we tried.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at April 23, 2015 02:32 PM (bCJvd)

82 So, MH, my worst fears about Johnson confirmed? Damn.

He really was the real deal at the start. Non-career pol with valuable real-world experience and success who was bringing some very basic common sense to the game.

Lends weight to the (still early) post-mortem that the Tea Party phenomenon was one of the last twitches of the dying body.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2015 02:32 PM (afQnV)

83 I still hate Bush and Bush stinks too. Time to clean that bad Bush presidency up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 23, 2015 02:33 PM (Sd++4)

84 Mcconnell conned us all. He's a democrat manchurian republican. He sucked up 2014 midterm money that could have gotten us more votes in NH, VA, and a few others.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at April 23, 2015 02:29 PM (bCJvd)

Bullshit. Some of us tried to tell the rest exactly who he was.
***
but "we" don't matter.
I mean, unless GOP leadership is right, that Obama lame duck session is still too powerful of a historicly popular juggernaut to be stopped. don't want to lose moderates. etc etc.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at April 23, 2015 02:33 PM (bCJvd)

85 9 Yep, they'll get right on the conservative agenda blocking people who shouldn't be in power as SOON AS THEY GET A MAJORITY IN CONGRESS, uh something.


They couldn't muster 29 Republicans to vote against Boner. That's the upper limit on the number of conservatives in Congress. A half dozen is more likely. Our agenda IS NOT their agenda.

Posted by: despair at April 23, 2015 02:33 PM (J6suc)

86 So the argument against a third party is what?

So we don't get screwed by the democrats getting everything they want?

Yeah.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at April 23, 2015 02:34 PM (TV9BR)

87 So, MH, my worst fears about Johnson confirmed? Damn.
**do tell

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at April 23, 2015 02:34 PM (bCJvd)

88 Thommy Tillis (R-NC) voted "Aye".

Add him to the list.

Posted by: NCwoof at April 23, 2015 02:34 PM (aUQgu)

89 See? We got rid of Eric Holder! Give us money, wing nuts!

Posted by: Your GOPe at April 23, 2015 02:35 PM (FcR7P)

90 One thing I know for sure, when Mexicans begin controlling this country, fear of being accused of racism will be a thing of the past.

We won't have a reprentstive democratic republic but we sort of don't have that any longer anyway but at least the race card will finally be torn up and thrown in the trash.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 23, 2015 02:36 PM (pHEyr)

91 And all you guys think I'm stupid but still keep voting republican.

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 23, 2015 02:36 PM (TV9BR)

92 The point is that the GOP's behavior does not comport, even slightly, with smart self-interested politics. Even when that means the same thing as sane, good policy (in the current case, highlighting and opposing and marshalling public/political opposition to lawlessness, specifically on illegal immigration).

This was true with the whole shut-down theater, too. Not as obvious, but clear. Though even some our smartest commenters could not see that, and instead ingested the frankly silly myth that the GOP would suffer at the ballot box for being seen as actually doing something, causing SOME trouble - in a 70% "wrong track" country with a flat economy .....

Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2015 02:36 PM (afQnV)

93 Never forget what Mitch McConnell did to Chris McDaniel. Lying, deceitful weasel leads the Senate. At least we all know where Harry Reid stands. As despicable as he his, he's consistent.

Posted by: NCwoof at April 23, 2015 02:37 PM (aUQgu)

94 So if the Republican leadership and the Democrats voted for her, and 43% didn't... I'm confused. Who is leading whom?

Posted by: t-bird at April 23, 2015 02:38 PM (FcR7P)

95 Hmmm, any precedent for "recalling" the corgis to a lower thread?

Just kidding.

But even before looking, I'm sensing this topic is far the more important one.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2015 02:38 PM (afQnV)

96 86 So the argument against a third party is what?


The only one I can think of is that the system is rigged against third parties. The two institutionalized parties make it very difficult for a third party to even get on the ballot. And winning less than 50% + the margin of fraud + 1 gets you exactly nothing. Unlike a parliamentary system, the winner-take-all system freezes out small interest groups.

Posted by: despair at April 23, 2015 02:38 PM (J6suc)

97 94
So if the Republican leadership and the Democrats voted for her, and 43% didn't... I'm confused. Who is leading whom?

---------------

A old one-eyed pirate bitches.

Posted by: Accused pederast Harry Reid at April 23, 2015 02:39 PM (TV9BR)

98 Meh - I care but I don't care...No nominee put up by Obama for this post (or most others) would be acceptable...

Posted by: RomneyBot since 2007 at April 23, 2015 02:40 PM (3ImmG)

99 I'm getting used to saying Sen. Russ el-Slimeroad (Moonbat-Al Qaeda) again.

Posted by: steveegg at April 23, 2015 02:40 PM (cL79m)

100 I stay away from the "third party" debates, but I think despair has it right, above.

Down to the county level, most places are structurally two-party (to a surprising degree, where a citizen wonders why two parties, which are private unofficial entities, are basically enshrined in the system and receive public moneys for some functions).

Very, very, very difficult to move the needle with a third party, the way state election laws are constructed. Taking over one of the two big parties is the only way for major change to be made. Isolated cases exist, mostly on state/local level, where the two-party hammerlock does not apply, but usually on small, specific issues.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2015 02:42 PM (afQnV)

101 despair at April 23, 2015 02:38 PM (J6suc)

------------

Yes but we could win some seats and would likely have more power in negotiations.

I think the faulty theory is that many democrats would not switch to the new democan party and the communist party would be even smaller with less influence. I think it would be close to an even split and then conservatives get more say.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at April 23, 2015 02:43 PM (TV9BR)

102 Meh. She sucks, yeah. And isn't the prosecutorial malfeasance vis-a-vis HSBC a lot worse than her far-left ideology?

I guess I'm thinking: A cabinet position just seems like a poor place to plant our flag. The costs/rewards for fighting on that hill as the opposition party seems questionable.

Posted by: Doug at April 23, 2015 02:46 PM (yNjgJ)

103 RomneyBot (sock?), your comment was echoed yesterday on radio by some political pundit. Misses the point.

Yep - this president is unlikely to offer a serious, good candidate for any cabinet post, esp. the AG.

Perfect. THAT is how you keep this administrations very unpopular (and possibly judicially unsustainable) lawlessness on the table, in the media, etc.

It's basic political common sense that you don't neccessarily win every vote, or "win" every political/PR round, on every issue. But on important issues, where the electorate is largely favorable to your position, you DO take a stand some times, to make the point, define yourself, encourage public support, and DIFFERENTIATE. This last word is the most common one used by strategists, esp. Senate ones, in all but solid blue/red districts and states. In my day I'd estimate 50% of the roll call votes in the Senate served no purpose OTHER than differentiation for incumbents/against incumbents, and fund-raising.

It's the slog, the everyday ditch-digging of political strategy you use - *when you are actually building a coalition or a dynamic to get something done, or something stopped*.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2015 02:48 PM (afQnV)

104 As Ace suggested some time ago, it is worth voting one time for the Dem in safe Red State areas to rid ourselves of these spineless, cocksucking, alleged Republicans.
We vote the Dem out after ridding ourselves of our RINO affliction and, hopefully, vote in someone who is in OPPOSITION, to the Dem syndicate in the election after dumping the RINO...
What we need is for Ace to identify about 10 such low cocksucking RINOS to dump. A hit list, as it were.

Posted by: The roost aint what it used to be at April 23, 2015 02:51 PM (7GI9v)

105 I'm the happiest girl, in the whole USA.

Posted by: Loretta Lynnch at April 23, 2015 02:53 PM (VndSC)

106 "Political violence inspired by Tea-Partier Blogger Ace's racist hit-list broke out again, today, when drug-gangs in Chicago murdered several African-American teens who were just about to turn their lives around. Subpoenas issued by AG Loretta Lynch were in process of being delivered by well-armed SWAT teams, anonymous sources in the incoming Clinton Administration said."

Posted by: Future Media Storyline at April 23, 2015 03:02 PM (sCHw2)

107 May I sugest the Roman way: good old fashioned decimation?

Pick the worst (for values of "worst") ten percent of the GOP in each house and make them radioactive.

Posted by: Chico at April 23, 2015 03:02 PM (a7Dd7)

108 Dead to me.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at April 23, 2015 03:03 PM (Ilm6f)

109 Yep - Mitchy is one of our boys....


"Jane! STOP THIS CRAZY THING! JANE!!!"

Posted by: Ibin Pharteen at April 23, 2015 03:05 PM (zL/eJ)

110 As Ace suggested some time ago, it is worth voting one time for the Dem in safe Red State areas to rid ourselves of these spineless, cocksucking, alleged Republicans.
We vote the Dem out after ridding ourselves of our RINO affliction and, hopefully, vote in someone who is in OPPOSITION, to the Dem syndicate in the election after dumping the RINO...
What we need is for Ace to identify about 10 such low cocksucking RINOS to dump. A hit list, as it were.

Posted by: The roost aint what it used to be at April 23, 2015 02:51 PM (7GI9v)


While I agree with a decimation (fuck it; I want annihilation), the very wrong thing to do is to vote for the DemocRAT in the general election. By inflating their vote totals, you're just encouraging the RepublicRATs to halve the distance between them and their majority partners in the bipartisan Party-In-Government from 2 inches to 1 inch.

Instead, find a conservative third-party candidate to back, or if there isn't one, write in somebody who is conservative. That way, they are sent the message that they lost because they told us to fuck off.

Posted by: steveegg at April 23, 2015 03:06 PM (cL79m)

111 105 I'm the happiest girl, in the whole USA.

That was Donna Fargo, not Loretta Lynn.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 23, 2015 03:06 PM (7ObY1)

112 Nice bump to the top of the blog there, Drew (or did Ace enstompen his own post?).

Posted by: steveegg at April 23, 2015 03:08 PM (cL79m)

113 Tell me again how my complete and total disgust for the GOPe is the problem. Because I love hearing that bullshit from borderline retarded monkeys.

Posted by: physics geek at April 23, 2015 03:09 PM (MT22W)

114 Damn that DrewM using his mind control rays on our honorable GOP senators to go against their own beliefs just so he can write an article to bash them!

Posted by: Buzzion at April 23, 2015 03:10 PM (z/Ubi)

115 Such is the life of a former GOP supporter.
Every chance they get the knife goes into my back, this time they twisted it.

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at April 23, 2015 03:10 PM (4CRfK)

116 Here. Let me give a little visual representation to help explain my opinion on everything.

https://youtu.be/LIqQBg_sk_8


Everything = JJ Watt

Everything JJ Watt is destorying = me

(This is only like 99% an excuse to post JJ Watt)

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 23, 2015 03:11 PM (mf5HN)

117 May I sugest the Roman way: good old fashioned decimation?

Pick the worst (for values of "worst") ten percent of the GOP in each house and make them radioactive.

Posted by: Chico at April 23, 2015 03:02 PM (a7Dd7)


If you like being the minority-of-the-minority instead of the minority-of-the-"majority", a mere decimation will suffice. We need to toss a lot more than 10%.

Posted by: steveegg at April 23, 2015 03:11 PM (cL79m)

118 Irony alert: Fox reported earlier that Gadahn the American was raised on a goat farm.

The jokes write themselves.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 23, 2015 03:12 PM (FsuaD)

119 I totally could stomp this thread, if I wanted to...

Posted by: Captain Kickass at April 23, 2015 03:12 PM (FcR7P)

120 117 May I sugest the Roman way: good old fashioned decimation?

Pick the worst (for values of "worst") ten percent of the GOP in each house and make them radioactive.

Posted by: Chico at April 23, 2015 03:02 PM (a7Dd7)

If you like being the minority-of-the-minority instead of the minority-of-the-"majority", a mere decimation will suffice. We need to toss a lot more than 10%.

Posted by: steveegg at April 23, 2015 03:11 PM (cL79m)


I'm a Celt.... when we had a bad year we used to sacrifice our KING, to appease the Gods...

Just need to update that policy a bit...

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 03:13 PM (qh617)

121
But the only one I see talking about that stuff is Ted Cruz...
Posted by: BB WOLF



Speaking of which:

Not Voting - 1 - Cruz (R-TX)

Hope whatever chicken dinner fundraiser you're at today was worth missing a campaign defining event.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2015 03:13 PM (kdS6q)

122 I'll see your JJ Watt and raise you Kate Upton in zero gravity:

http://goo.gl/px80b4

Posted by: physics geek at April 23, 2015 03:13 PM (MT22W)

123
98 Meh - I care but I don't care...No nominee put up by Obama for this post (or most others) would be acceptable...
Posted by: RomneyBot since 2007 at April 23, 2015 02:40 PM (3ImmG)


They're going to suck no matter what. So why approve his first choice that is likely the worst most successful, most in line with his beliefs. Force him to go with his second or third option.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 23, 2015 03:13 PM (z/Ubi)

124 so confused.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 03:13 PM (AkOaV)

125 whats old is new again?

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 03:13 PM (AkOaV)

126 All the Republicans that voted for her are dead to me, but most of them were anyway, but I can't get to worked up about this. If they did not confirm her or bring her to a vote, then holder would stay on. So it was a pick your poison kinda of thing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2015 03:14 PM (rDqRv)

127 At least she won't have any real power over us... oh wait..

Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at April 23, 2015 03:14 PM (VNgld)

128 I want to thank Presdent Obama for nominating a Woman of Color for the Attorney general position to carry on the progress we have made in abolishing the racist Bush policies against persons of color. Brattleboro loves you and supports you and Michelle.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 23, 2015 03:14 PM (Sd++4)

129 Hope whatever chicken dinner fundraiser you're at today was worth missing a campaign defining event.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2015 03:13 PM (kdS6q)


I believe he was there... because he spoke on the Senate floor AFTER the vote...

But he knew his vote made no difference... the fix was in....

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 03:15 PM (qh617)

130 Such is the life of a former GOP supporter.
Every chance they get the knife goes into my back, this time they twisted it.

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at April 23, 2015 03:10 PM (4CRfK)


This was us pulling up on the knife after twisting it.

Posted by: El PRL at April 23, 2015 03:15 PM (cL79m)

131 Force him to go with his second or third option.
Posted by: Buzzion at April 23, 2015 03:13 PM (z/Ubi)


He is a stubborn fuck,. holder would just have stayed on and tortured us

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2015 03:15 PM (rDqRv)

132 If they did not confirm her or bring her to a vote, then holder would stay on. So it was a pick your poison kinda of thing.

Yeah, I don't think there really was a win for this. No matter what choice they made, it was awful. Its not like President Obama was going to say "ohh, all right, here's a nominee that's qualified, not a racist left wing radical lunatic guys" if they refused to confirm.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:16 PM (39g3+)

133 131 Force him to go with his second or third option.
Posted by: Buzzion at April 23, 2015 03:13 PM (z/Ubi)


He is a stubborn fuck,. holder would just have stayed on and tortured us
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2015 03:15 PM (rDqRv)


Holder wants to leave though. Forcing him to stay would also be punishment for him.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 23, 2015 03:16 PM (z/Ubi)

134 I am ashamed to admit we would have been better off with with Ashley Judd. Outside of her Dem vote; at least she would have not been able to much damage in comparison to McConnell. She would have provided non-stop embarrasing material as well, but at least she would be a identifiable target. I supported McConnell to flip the Senate, but What an bitter disappointment.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at April 23, 2015 03:16 PM (HbLwc)

135 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:16 PM (39g3+)

so instead of fighting... instead of even TRYING...

You roll over like the good dog you are... and beg for scraps from the table?

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 03:17 PM (qh617)

136 Breaking: Gen. Petraeus sentenced to 2 years probation and $100k fine.

Sigh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 23, 2015 03:17 PM (FsuaD)

137
I believe he was there... because he spoke on the Senate floor AFTER the vote...
Posted by: BB WOLF




Then vote you Canadian fnck. That's what you're there for.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2015 03:17 PM (kdS6q)

138 They are not willing to die on that hill or any hill.

Instead they are going to die on their knees in a ditch.

http://pamelageller.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/worjrw.jpg

Posted by: rd at April 23, 2015 03:17 PM (L7qFk)

139 In a way it doesn't matter b/c DOJ is on automatic pilot right now and their agenda is unwavering regardless of who is holding the press conferences. I would bet that the top 30% of the DOJ is full retard-on-board activists. So at this point... I would have preferred a principled fight, it doesn't really matter. I appreciate these fine GOP Senators stepping out though and identifying themselves to us all as complete and total asshats.

Posted by: Yip at April 23, 2015 03:17 PM (84SRe)

140 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:16 PM (39g3+)

Force holder to stay.

Lynch will be no different than Holder (both extensions of Obama). So why not keep the asshole we know in charge?

Especially since we know he wants to leave.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 03:17 PM (AkOaV)

141 Im really glad that I didnt vote GOP in november and I pity those who let themselves be bullied and shamed into voting by useless hacks like Geraghty, Hunter and Schlichter.

Posted by: Harley Quinn at April 23, 2015 03:17 PM (snilk)

142 I am ashamed to admit we would have been better off with with Ashley Judd. Outside of her Dem vote; at least she would have not been able to much damage in comparison to McConnell. She would have provided non-stop embarrasing material as well, but at least she would be a identifiable target. I supported McConnell to flip the Senate, but What an bitter disappointment.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at April 23, 2015 03:16 PM (HbLwc)


I'm next in line for MaxiCave's job, and I've got the maxi-pad to prove it.

Posted by: Miss Lindsey at April 23, 2015 03:18 PM (cL79m)

143 117

Here now! I never we could only ever do it once!

10%

If necessary, nuke 10% of what's left, etc

It'll be a fun diversion from the real work that lies ahead of us: Sorting out work details and bunking arrangements in the camps. And what will pass for currency in the camp economy

Posted by: Chico at April 23, 2015 03:18 PM (a7Dd7)

144 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2015 03:17 PM (kdS6q)

Canadian?

Must be talking about Cruz, eh?

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 03:18 PM (AkOaV)

145 Breaking: Gen. Petraeus sentenced to 2 years probation and $100k fine.

Sigh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 23, 2015 03:17 PM (FsuaD)


He's an idiot. But this was a message to all those that might cross Fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2015 03:19 PM (rDqRv)

146
Lonely up here.

You GOPers never write, never call......

Posted by: The Hill To Die On at April 23, 2015 03:19 PM (SpnVI)

147 So senators who swore to uphold the Constitution. aide and abet the destruction of the Constitution by permitting an AG who said under oath she would violate it, take office.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 23, 2015 03:19 PM (GGCsk)

148 Forget it, Jake, it's Lawyertown.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 23, 2015 03:19 PM (HNhyh)

149 Waiting orders from my GOP betters as to why they are different before I comment.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2015 03:19 PM (6GBAx)

150 Why the Hell didn't they just emulate JEF and vote 'present'?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 23, 2015 03:20 PM (Spluw)

151 Posted by: steveegg at April 23, 2015 03:06 PM (cL79m)


Agree completely. The folks constantly beating the drum of "You have to vote GOP!" or "Reform the GOP" don't seem to understand incentives and how they apply to voting.


When a party can reliably depend on your vote, it has no incentive to alter course. No amount of "Reform From The Bottom Up" is going to change this.


Switching parties simply warps the entire incentive structure so that the disaffected party simply thinks it has to adopt even more of the opposition's stance.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 23, 2015 03:20 PM (xSCb6)

152 so instead of fighting... instead of even TRYING...

You roll over like the good dog you are... and beg for scraps from the table?


I dunno how you win this fight, its like being forced to choose which testicle you want crushed.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:20 PM (39g3+)

153 There was no win possible ? Bull. Shit.


You take every radical nominee, and if they have radical statements and/or actions to expose ... you raise holy hell about each transgression AND tie it to the Democratic Party.


You continue until either Obama caves (he won't) or vulnerable Dems start getting nervous (they will).


Fuck this bull shit constant cover given to the same damn GOPe losers. The only reason they can't win is because they won't fight.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2015 03:20 PM (0DVOr)

154 >>Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2015 03:19 PM (rDqRv)
<<

The message is never drop your guard...or your pants.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 23, 2015 03:20 PM (GGCsk)

155 I dunno how you win this fight, its like being forced to choose which testicle you want crushed.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:20 PM (39g3+)

Piss in his face first

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2015 03:21 PM (rDqRv)

156 Hannibal Lector for Surgeon General next..... No, we needs someone really loony. Rahm's brother.

-
They don't need Hannibal Lector, they've got Kermit Gosnell

Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 23, 2015 03:21 PM (XUKZU)

157 Like the drunk who has spent the rent money on beer, too drunk to drive home, can't find his car keys. Somehow manages to get his car started and weave his way home without wrecking the car or getting arrested and jailed.

That's US. Fumbling, mumbling our way through life, showing up to work in the morning, hungover, until the first beer of the morning kicks in.

Then, after a lifetime, either the liver gives out, or we lose our driver's license and job, and sit at home on social security, still drunk.

Posted by: EphramKG36 at April 23, 2015 03:21 PM (gtXzt)

158 I used to think it vital we have an R in the President in 2016 because of SCOTUS, but then I remember Roberts.

Posted by: dogfish at April 23, 2015 03:22 PM (1vYi0)

159 So glad we helped get them the Senate majority, eh?

A$$holes.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 23, 2015 03:22 PM (2TN4k)

160 And how many years ago was it that dems blocked Robert Bork? or their own colleague, John Tower?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 23, 2015 03:22 PM (Spluw)

161 They serve the Senate, not the people.

The most rotten branch of the govt.

Wouldn't want to be rude with a filibuster or anything. You may get called racist.

Posted by: brak at April 23, 2015 03:22 PM (Tj+s6)

162 Second look at Alison Grimes?

Posted by: rd at April 23, 2015 03:23 PM (L7qFk)

163 152 so instead of fighting... instead of even TRYING...

You roll over like the good dog you are... and beg for scraps from the table?

I dunno how you win this fight, its like being forced to choose which testicle you want crushed.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:20 PM (39g3+)


How do you win???? Holder wants to retire... he will NOT stick out the job until Obama is done..

So you do not confirm... and Obama sends up another... who is better... or worse...

if worse... you do not confirm...

Eventually Obama and Holder HAVE to find someone who will actually uphold the Rule of Law....

Because the GOP just helped confirm an Attorney General... the top Law Enforcement Officer in the Nation... who has STATED she will not follow the written law... that Obama has the ability to over ride the law.

Which strikes to the very hear of us being a Republic...

At the very WORST... you have made a statement and stood on Principle... and Holder stays as Attorney General...

How is that a LOSS???

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 03:23 PM (qh617)

164
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 23, 2015 03:14 PM (Sd++4)

------------------

So, Mary,, can I count on your support in 16'?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 23, 2015 03:23 PM (HSmrB)

165
If Obama gets another Supreme Court nomination, watch the GOP roll over on that too.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2015 03:24 PM (kdS6q)

166 "I guess I'm thinking: A cabinet position just seems like a poor place to plant our flag."

The Democrats never give in on anything. That's why they have defeated conservatives all across the board. Step by step, office by office, year after year, they advance and win, while conservatives say "Meh. Not the hill to die on. But next time!"

Posted by: despair at April 23, 2015 03:24 PM (J6suc)

167 And what will pass for currency in the camp economy


Cigarettes and condoms.

Posted by: wrg500 at April 23, 2015 03:24 PM (S+el1)

168 Here now! I never we could only ever do it once!

10%

If necessary, nuke 10% of what's left, etc

It'll be a fun diversion from the real work that lies ahead of us: Sorting out work details and bunking arrangements in the camps. And what will pass for currency in the camp economy

Posted by: Chico at April 23, 2015 03:18 PM (a7Dd7)


The problem is a mere 10%/cycle booting means we'll never get the majority of the former GOP because they convert 15% of the elected conservative wing every cycle (see Johnson, Ron).

Posted by: steveegg at April 23, 2015 03:24 PM (cL79m)

169 Repost from prior thread:


Let me sum this up for you:


Harry fucking Reid suspended 200+ years of tradition to remove the filibuster and stock the courts and cabinet heads over the conservative opposition.


Mitch fucking McConnell continued this practice to allow Obama's fucking nominees to go forward without any real opportunity for conservative opposition.


Let that sink in deeply.

Posted by: prescient11 at April 23, 2015 03:24 PM (q5APL)

170 We already established a new first today ... the Most Corrupt Woman Secretary of State.

Next up, the Most Corrupt Woman Attorney General ... and after Janet Reno, that's quite a task.

Posted by: Erich Honecker at April 23, 2015 03:25 PM (e8kgV)

171 God is a just God. His ways are not our ways. My only consolation in the midst of this clear betrayal by team GOP is that none of this was ever destined to last anyway. There is no king but King Jesus. And when he takes his Earthly throne, His reign will be just and it will be everlasting.

Posted by: Sambo at April 23, 2015 03:25 PM (0u9/S)

172 And what did the GOP get in return for this shite?

Posted by: Feh at April 23, 2015 03:25 PM (wwy25)

173 Mitch fucking McConnell continued this practice to allow Obama's fucking nominees to go forward without any real opportunity for conservative opposition.


Let that sink in deeply.

Posted by: prescient11 at April 23, 2015 03:24 PM (q5APL)


After saying, pre election, that he would reverse these very policies....

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 03:25 PM (qh617)

174 @134

In many respects, it's actually worse with the GOP in control of 2/2 of 1/3 of the government.

They simply have give up on being a principled, agenda driven opposition party.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 23, 2015 03:26 PM (pHEyr)

175 Eventually Obama and Holder HAVE to find someone who will actually uphold the Rule of Law....

I think you have a significantly higher trust that President Obama has any degree of sanity or flexibility in his character than I do.

In other words: he's probably got a list of 500 candidates each one more looney than the last and he'd just go down the list. If none of them get chosen, he'd make a speech about how the evil Republicans are denying the American People justice, so he has to unilaterally bypass them.

I agree fighting is better than not, but in the end, the result is the same and since every nominee would be black, all that would happen is Republicans would be tarred as racists and obstructionists trying to block justice.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:26 PM (39g3+)

176 How does Utah justify Orin Hatch?
Posted by: Old Hob at April 23, 2015 02:16 PM (Lp6I1)

How do you solve a problem like the Orrin?
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?

In all seriousness, it is a combo of people in the state liking he has seniority, liking his connections since he has been in the senate a million billion years, and liking him personally because he has a grandpa nice guy vibe. Combine that with (until the tea party efforts recently to change this) little grassroots connection to effect change for the caucus/primary candidates and straight party republican voting. Orrin thus wins handidly. Y-Not probably has a savvier take on Utah politics but that is my take on it.

There was an attempt in the last election to get a changing of the guard after the Bennett shocker, but Orrin, to his credit, rallied his people and they stacked the caucus system. Otherwise he would have been out on his ear. (Frankly many were not impressed with his challenger, deservedly, so there was some lethargy for his opponent helping Hatch along.)

He pinky swears this term is his last (as he has the last few terms) so we'll see if his promise holds true. Pray we can get another Mike Lee elected! That would make my day but I have a sinking feeling the GOP will get in a RINO at the eleventh hour.

Posted by: LizLem at April 23, 2015 03:26 PM (yRwC8)

177 Posted by: EphramKG36 at April 23, 2015 03:21 PM (gtXzt)

Ah, that sounds like the LIFE.

How can I get paid to sit on my ass all day and get drunk? Sign me up for that shit ASAP!

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 03:26 PM (AkOaV)

178 >>And how many years ago was it that dems blocked Robert Bork? or their own colleague, John Tower?

Also: federal judge nominee Miguel Estrada whose nomination as sidelined for years until he finally gave up and withdrew.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 23, 2015 03:26 PM (2TN4k)

179 You know how Obama took responsibility for the strike that killed two hostages? Yeah, well, not so much. White House says that Obama "did not specifically sign off on the strike that killed two hostages."

Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 23, 2015 03:26 PM (XUKZU)

180 102 Meh. She sucks, yeah. And isn't the prosecutorial malfeasance vis-a-vis HSBC a lot worse than her far-left ideology?

I guess I'm thinking: A cabinet position just seems like a poor place to plant our flag. The costs/rewards for fighting on that hill as the opposition party seems questionable.
Posted by: Doug at April 23, 2015 02:46 PM (yNjgJ)



You would almost have a point if the pathetic shits of the GOP in congress were willing to actually plant their flag in anything.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 23, 2015 03:27 PM (z/Ubi)

181 And then, of course, we have the Rs that voted for cloture but sneakily voted against Lynch on confirmation: Alexander, Capito, Corker, Cornyn, Gardener, Roberts, Rounds, Thune, Tillis.

Posted by: jeannebodine at April 23, 2015 03:27 PM (SR3U3)

182 I'm not trying to defend the jackasses in congress, I just think there was no win here, no matter what they did.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:27 PM (39g3+)

183 Meh ... Fuck it. I'm switching my registration to Democrat.


At least then ... might get an extra bread ration. What's the GOP offering ? The golden opportunity to continue dragging the dead-beats along while the elites continue to sell me out.


Screw that.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2015 03:27 PM (0DVOr)

184 Democrats = Socialists
Republicans = Social Democrats
Conservatives = Christian Democrats

Communists are still communists, of course.

Posted by: Feh at April 23, 2015 03:28 PM (wwy25)

185 FYNQ

Posted by: Your GOP Congress at April 23, 2015 03:28 PM (fLKzW)

186 90 One thing I know for sure, when Mexicans begin controlling this country, fear of being accused of racism will be a thing of the past.


No, the deck will still be stacked against white people. Mexicans will be able to be racist against whoever they want, while we will have no right to speak against anyone. There will be no fairness or justice for us - not that there is any now.

Posted by: despair at April 23, 2015 03:28 PM (J6suc)

187 >>ventually Obama and Holder HAVE to find someone who will actually uphold the Rule of Law....

I see the opposite: Obama needs someone he can count on to cover his a$$ while he gets in all the items from his wish list crammed through in the the final months of his presidency.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 23, 2015 03:28 PM (2TN4k)

188 And what did the GOP get in return for this shite?

Posted by: Feh at April 23, 2015 03:25 PM (wwy25)


A promise that federal general funds rather than the special sex trafficking fund will be used to fund abortions-on-demand.

Posted by: steveegg at April 23, 2015 03:28 PM (cL79m)

189 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:26 PM (39g3+)

They... did... not... even... try....

Think on that... sure O may keep sending up crappy AG candidates... but maybe... just maybe.... not...

But the GOP just gave the new AG COVER for anything she does... because she was confirmed with GOPe votes...

They are now complicit in anything she does....

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 03:28 PM (qh617)

190 Let that sink in deeply.
Posted by: prescient11 at April 23, 2015 03:24 PM (q5APL)


After saying, pre election, that he would reverse these very policies....
Posted by: BB WOLF


Let's not forget that the rest of the phukeRs elected him majority leader.

Posted by: dogfish at April 23, 2015 03:29 PM (1vYi0)

191 Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 23, 2015 03:26 PM (XUKZU)

I thought Obama personally approved everyone on the "kill list" and all military operations, like the bin Laden one, which HE insisted on telling us that HE signed off on and that HE approved and "I, I, I, me, me, we, us, me" puled off?

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 03:29 PM (AkOaV)

192
Sen. Ted Cruz skipped the vote to confirm Loretta Lynch as attorney general on Thursday. just three hours after he took to the Senate floor to rail against her nomination. Cruz was the only member of the chamber not to vote.

Cruz missed another key Senate vote this week. to pass a sex trafficking bill that was caught up for weeks due to an abortion-related dispute. The vote was 99-0, and Cruz was the sole missing senator then, too.

The senator has drawn scrutiny over his attendance record in his short time on Capitol Hill. POLITICO reported earlier this week that Cruz has missed the vast majority of hearings for the Armed Services Committee, is below-average in attendance on his other major committees and ranks 97th during the first three months of this year in showing up for Senate floor votes.



Cruz 2016: AWOL

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2015 03:29 PM (kdS6q)

193 Haven't we learned what affirmative action gets you yet?

Posted by: skip at April 23, 2015 03:29 PM (tFcoz)

194 I keep hoping Holder, like Janet Reno, will now slink away never to be heard of again. Not positive I'll get my wish though. What oh what cushy job awaits him, I wonder...

Posted by: LizLem at April 23, 2015 03:29 PM (yRwC8)

195 So what Lynch says in the video is "I don't give a shit what the law says."

GOP response? Make that woman Attorney General!

Posted by: Feh at April 23, 2015 03:29 PM (wwy25)

196 179

Wasn't it claimed some time ago that all drone strikes had to be approved by him?

Posted by: wrg500 at April 23, 2015 03:30 PM (S+el1)

197 194 I keep hoping Holder, like Janet Reno, will now slink away never to be heard of again. Not positive I'll get my wish though. What oh what cushy job awaits him, I wonder...
Posted by: LizLem at April 23, 2015 03:29 PM (yRwC


Defending ISIS terrorists.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 23, 2015 03:30 PM (St6BJ)

198 NYT reporter. Clinton Foundation (ATM) lied about meeting with Russians. One problem for the Clit ATM, there was pictures of the meeting. Ooops. Reset!

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2015 03:30 PM (6GBAx)

199 Eventually Obama and Holder HAVE to find someone who will actually uphold the Rule of Law....

No they won't. They aren't ever going to nominate someone sane, let alone someone who will "uphold the rule of law".

I just don't see the advantage to Team GOP for fighting this tooth and nail. Yes she was exposed as being an illegal-loving Obama knob-gobbler. But what else is new? Everyone else that he would have nominated would also have been an illegal-loving Obama knob-gobbler.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 23, 2015 03:30 PM (2XMpf)

200 Its pretty standard for presidential candidates to miss a ton of votes in congress when they are in the legislature; its part of why I think they should resign upon announcing their candidacy.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:30 PM (39g3+)

201
And then, of course, we have the Rs that voted for cloture but sneakily voted against Lynch on confirmation: Alexander, Capito, Corker, Cornyn, Gardener, Roberts, Rounds, Thune, Tillis.
Posted by: jeannebodine



Awww -- you peeked!

Posted by: The GOP

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2015 03:30 PM (kdS6q)

202
I thought Obama personally approved everyone on the "kill list" and all military operations, like the bin Laden one, which HE insisted on telling us that HE signed off on and that HE approved and "I, I, I, me, me, we, us, me" puled off?

-
He can't be there on every gutsy call, He has golf games to attend.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at April 23, 2015 03:31 PM (XUKZU)

203 Posted by: despair at April 23, 2015 03:28 PM (J6suc)

Nah most of our friends from south of the border see themselves as white.

American liberal politicians invented the "hispanic" or "latino" labels for the census back in the, what, 70s?

Thats why "non hispanic white" is a thing, because even with "hispanic" as a choice, many spanish speakers identify as "white".

Mainly, because, you know, theyre descendants of Spanish, Portuguese, and Italians.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 03:31 PM (AkOaV)

204 No, the deck will still be stacked against white people. Mexicans will be able to be racist against whoever they want, while we will have no right to speak against anyone. There will be no fairness or justice for us - not that there is any now.

Posted by: despair at April 23, 2015 03:28 PM (J6suc)


Its already here.... come to Central California... where in my town, I am a minority...

Hispanic companies do business with other Hispanic companies... its their preference.

If you are trying to get a job??? you better know Spanish...

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 03:31 PM (qh617)

205 Posted by: Lizzy at April 23, 2015 03:28 PM (2TN4k)

Obama wasn't looking for another AG, he was looking for another firewall.

Posted by: wrg500 at April 23, 2015 03:31 PM (S+el1)

206 192 Cruz 2016: AWOL
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2015 03:29 PM (kdS6q)

I'm a big fan so this does trouble me. I have to be honest.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 23, 2015 03:31 PM (St6BJ)

207 I keep hoping Holder, like Janet Reno, will now
slink away never to be heard of again. Not positive I'll get my wish
though. What oh what cushy job awaits him, I wonder...

Posted by: LizLem at April 23, 2015 03:29 PM (yRwC


Tune into our new show, "Social Justice with Eric Holder!"

Posted by: MSNBC at April 23, 2015 03:31 PM (8hctH)

208 "did not specifically sign off on the strike that killed two hostages."




That buck ain't stopping here, no siree.

Posted by: B. O. at April 23, 2015 03:32 PM (LA7Cm)

209 And you thought I might have to pay my back taxes.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at April 23, 2015 03:32 PM (wAQA5)

210 in the end, the result is the same and since every nominee would be black, all that would happen is Republicans would be tarred as racists and obstructionists trying to block justice.

Got news for you. We're going to do that anyway.

Posted by: MFM at April 23, 2015 03:32 PM (Spluw)

211
Its pretty standard for presidential candidates to miss a ton of votes in congress when they are in the legislature;
Posted by: Christopher Taylor



Cruz was there. He just had to sit his ass down and play MarioKart on his Gameboy for an hour or two.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2015 03:32 PM (kdS6q)

212 Posted by: chemjeff at April 23, 2015 03:30 PM (2XMpf)

No need to fight it tooth and nail.

Just pull a Harry Reid, and never allow a vote to get to the floor.

Make Holder stay on.

Then if there is a chance to "negotiate" something at some point, maybe say "fine, you do that, and we'll let Holder leave."

But theres no reason (other than courtesy) for Mitch to bring this vote to the floor.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 03:32 PM (AkOaV)

213 I've been to Spain, it's full of white people

Posted by: The President of Zimbabwe for life at April 23, 2015 03:32 PM (W6iIX)

214 My first duty as your AG will be to aggressively investigate the Clintons and their Foundation to find out if they did anyth..... ah fuck it. I won't do any such thing. What foreign money?

Posted by: Loretta Lynch at April 23, 2015 03:32 PM (fLKzW)

215 Fcuk Kelly Ayotte in particular.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 23, 2015 03:32 PM (7ObY1)

216 And did I read somewhere that Cruz skipped the vote? Shortly after delivering a speech against her confirmation?

Posted by: chi's sandwIch (previously shredded chi) at April 23, 2015 03:33 PM (NRQlH)

217 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2015 03:29 PM (kdS6q)

Verrrry interesting.

Thanks. Food for thought.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 23, 2015 03:34 PM (7ObY1)

218 Maybe Cruz is taking some of your advice and decided he just won't vote .

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 23, 2015 03:34 PM (P7ulB)

219 Right, so Lynch's confirmation will mean that Hillary will never face legal consequences for her criminal behavior.

Thanks, GOPiece of Shit

Posted by: Feh at April 23, 2015 03:34 PM (wwy25)

220 Way OT here guys. As you know I have been infrequent here at The HQ. Whatever happened to Empire Of Jeff?

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2015 03:34 PM (6GBAx)

221 I am going to investigate the remaining white aspects of Baltimore City Government to find racism.

Posted by: Loretta Lynch at April 23, 2015 03:34 PM (fLKzW)

222 Nah most of our friends from south of the border see themselves as white.

Yeah, they tend to get really upset, defensive, and even hostile when the native American in their blood is brought up. Its a class thing, the more mixed blood, the lower class you are. They all claim to be direct pure descendents of Hidalgos and Dons from Spain or something. Its very odd.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:34 PM (39g3+)

223 God help us if Slick Willy and Screech get back in the White House.

Posted by: Sam Adams at April 23, 2015 03:34 PM (R8h28)

224 Posted by: chi's sandwIch (previously shredded chi) at April 23, 2015 03:33 PM (NRQlH)

He had money to raise and babies to kiss.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 03:35 PM (AkOaV)

225 Posted by: chemjeff at April 23, 2015 03:30 PM (2XMpf)

Alamo.... Spartans at Hot Gate.... Battle of Camerone...

Sometimes you need to fight... even in a losing battle... to set things up for the NEXT fight...

But the GOP NEVER fights... on anything...

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 03:35 PM (qh617)

226 Re: Cruz. My first reaction is so what. Those are Kabuki theatre times as far as I can tell.

Posted by: dogfish at April 23, 2015 03:35 PM (1vYi0)

227 >>I keep hoping Holder, like Janet Reno, will now

slink away never to be heard of again. Not positive I'll get my wish

though. What oh what cushy job awaits him, I wonder...

He's going to end up as an executive on some Lefty corporation, maybe a tech company. IIRC, former spokesguy Jay Carney is a VP at Amazon.

Of course he'll also be on the Board of Directors for a variety of big, Dem-supporting companies.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 23, 2015 03:35 PM (2TN4k)

228 My first duty as your AG will be to aggressively investigate the Clintons and their Foundation to find out if they did anyth..... ah fuck it. I won't do any such thing. What foreign money?

Posted by: Loretta Lynch at April 23, 2015 03:32 PM (fLKzW)


What if I told you I was ready to take out Killary in the primaries? I promise to keep you on, honeybuns.

Posted by: Baba O'Malley at April 23, 2015 03:35 PM (cL79m)

229 And what will pass for currency in the camp economy

Flower wine.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 23, 2015 03:35 PM (7ObY1)

230 Stop calling me "Screech."

Posted by: Hillary "Screech" Clinton at April 23, 2015 03:35 PM (R8h28)

231
So, Mary,, can I count on your support in 16'?
Posted by: Hillary Clinton
................................
I didn't know Mary was in the walker business.

Posted by: wth at April 23, 2015 03:35 PM (wAQA5)

232 Nood Gutless Wonder

Posted by: LizLem at April 23, 2015 03:36 PM (yRwC8)

233 They can't use a Cruz no vote against him in the event that he gets the nomination.

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 23, 2015 03:36 PM (P7ulB)

234
I wouldn't bet my life savings on it, but maybe one day the Clintons will have a run in with a set of brass knuckles disused as exercise bands.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 23, 2015 03:36 PM (St6BJ)

235 Re: Cruz. My first reaction is so what.


So, Barky voted "present" if he voted at all, and that's bad.

Cruz skips key votes and that's meh.

Got it.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 23, 2015 03:36 PM (7ObY1)

236 @212 - COURTESY?

Posted by: JEM at April 23, 2015 03:36 PM (o+SC1)

237
Mexico has a bunch of white people in it too.

It is just the non white mexicans who go to the USA

Posted by: The President of Zimbabwe for life at April 23, 2015 03:36 PM (W6iIX)

238 " Right, so Lynch's confirmation will mean that Hillary will never face legal consequences for her criminal behavior. "


I'm not sure that it's not Barry and Co. who are putting the screws on Ma Clinton. Somebody is leaking a little here, a little more there. Trying to send a message.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 23, 2015 03:36 PM (LA7Cm)

239 But the GOP NEVER fights... on anything...

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 03:35 PM (qh617)


Come on - we fought like hell to keep Angle, O'Donnell, Akin and Mourdock out of the Senate. It helped they self-destructed, but we had a hand in that.

Posted by: The NRSC at April 23, 2015 03:36 PM (cL79m)

240 LDC@ 192
Answered - even as I was asking. Thanks.

Posted by: chi's sandwIch (previously shredded chi) at April 23, 2015 03:37 PM (NRQlH)

241 208 "did not specifically sign off on the strike that killed two hostages."




That buck ain't stopping here, no siree.

Posted by: B. O. at April 23, 2015 03:32 PM (LA7Cm)


then it was an unlawful order.... period...

Posted by: BB WOLF, at April 23, 2015 03:37 PM (qh617)

242 I can't disagree with you steveegg. That why when the anger and snark of the moment abate, I come back to Sambo's sentiments. I know in my head and spirit that he's got it right.

But my flesh, my Scots/Irish/pirate/Klingon/Met heritage wants revenge!

Posted by: Chico at April 23, 2015 03:37 PM (a7Dd7)

243 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:34 PM (39g3+)

Yeah.

Well, racism is very prevalent in Spanish speaking countries. Pure European is seen as much more preferable to "mixed blood." And in fact, the ruling class in many of these countries (who are mostly pure european or close to it) are happily sending us their indigenous people across the border.

But EITHER WAY, my point stands. Spanish speakers don't hate "whitey" since they see themselves as "whitey" which I think is a huge flaw in the democrats plan vis a vis importing all of these people. If you can't get the Mexican and the Brazilian to both see themselves as part of the same victim class who have to vote "against whitey" then it'll be very tough for them to pull together / maintain a racial animus based majority. Which is clearly their goal.

Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 03:37 PM (AkOaV)

244 And what will pass for currency in the camp economy

Blow jobs, probably. That's why I'll never be taken alive. I'm not going, I'm not blowin'.

This wheel chair I'm sitting in is packed with explosives. You try to pry my ass out of this chair and we're all gonna die.

Posted by: EphramKG36 at April 23, 2015 03:38 PM (gtXzt)

245 @199

The advantage is that you keep Holder from leaving, which is something he wants to do, and you keep an undeserving incompetent out of the position.

It's not like they have to expend real physical efforts or political captial to accomplish this.

All they had to do is keep her bottled up and tell the SCOAMF to send a better nominee.

But as usual they caved.

Spineless cunts.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 23, 2015 03:38 PM (pHEyr)

246 The real question, and what we don't know, is what (if anything) they got from it. Face it -- she can't be worse than Holder, and Holder's just going to get petulant and (more) vindictive. They have to approve someone, else Holder will just end up screwing with the American people just because he can and he doesn't want to be there. It's a lose-lose as long as Obama's President.

On the other hand, this looks like somebody made a deal for something. We don't know what, because that's not something anybody would admit. But I'll bet money that down the line there's going to be some bill somewhere that will pass by the skin of its teeth because just a couple of Dems came along for the ride.

Posted by: billo at April 23, 2015 03:38 PM (YRFqi)

247 So, Barky voted "present" if he voted at all, and that's bad.
Cruz skips key votes and that's meh.
Got it.
Posted by: Citizen X


I'm sorry I don't ever remember commenting on Barky's Senate record. Take your assumption and stuff it.

Posted by: dogfish at April 23, 2015 03:39 PM (1vYi0)

248 Posted by: The NRSC at April 23, 2015 03:36 PM (cL79m

They a hand in it and an arm , a couple of legs and most of all , their mouth.

Posted by: Cruzinator at April 23, 2015 03:39 PM (P7ulB)

249 >>> IIRC, former spokesguy Jay Carney is a VP at Amazon.

Oh for the love of...et tu Amazon? Well at least he'll get a big discount on the russian propaganda posters being shipped to his house!

Posted by: LizLem at April 23, 2015 03:39 PM (yRwC8)

250 They can't use a Cruz no vote against him in the event that he gets the nomination.

Correct, he's running for office, so he has to be a lying manipulative piece of crap to get there. Its why I'd never do it - you have to sell your soul to get to that level of power and there's just no way to do it that is virtuous and honest. I'm not trying to slam Cruz, its just a fact of life in politics.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:39 PM (39g3+)

251
So far this month, Cruz has missed 20 of the Senate's 28 roll call votes, according to GovTrack.



Lazy Canadian fnck.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2015 03:42 PM (kdS6q)

252 So, Barky voted "present" if he voted at all, and that's bad.

Cruz skips key votes and that's meh.


I'm sure if you thought about it long enough you could grok the difference between "misses a few votes during a campaign" and "virtually never actually voted on anything during his entire career."

then it was an unlawful order.... period...

Its one that doesn't ruffle my feathers much either way. I think the Russians have it right here, as awful as it is: they stop taking hostages if you prove you don't give a damn.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 23, 2015 03:42 PM (39g3+)

253 I'm sure when Democrats get the Senate again, their Majority will be sure to be a rubber stamp for Republican Presidents.

Conservatives should have voted Democrat in KY against McConnell. I thought the idea was crazy until seeing him in action.

Posted by: Kal at April 23, 2015 03:42 PM (13G+x)

254
lynch will only be around for 18 months unless we lose the 2016 election.

Posted by: kj at April 23, 2015 03:44 PM (lKyWE)

255 lynch will only be around for 18 months unless we lose the 2016 election.

Posted by: kj at April 23, 2015 03:44 PM (lKyWE)

So you're saying she's gonna be here awhile...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at April 23, 2015 03:45 PM (fwARV)

256 lynch will only be around for 18 months unless we lose the 2016 election.

Posted by: kj at April 23, 2015 03:44 PM (lKyWE)


As your presumptive nominee, I'm working hard on that.

Posted by: The Jebinator at April 23, 2015 03:45 PM (cL79m)

257
"misses a few votes during a campaign"
Posted by: Christopher Taylor



Between January and March, Cruz missed more votes than any other senator except Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who was injured while exercising, and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), another presidential candidate.

:Missed a few votes.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2015 03:47 PM (kdS6q)

258 On the other hand, this looks like somebody made a deal for something. We don't know what, because that's not something anybody would admit. But I'll bet money that down the line there's going to be some bill somewhere that will pass by the skin of its teeth because just a couple of Dems came along for the ride.
Posted by: billo at April 23, 2015 03:38 PM (Y

Lol. Good one.

Posted by: Sambo at April 23, 2015 03:52 PM (0u9/S)

259 I be gettin' really depressed these days. Fukn Mitch "Obama's Bitch" McConnell needs to stroke out, retire, heal and have an epiphany. He'd later be found alone in his closet with a necktie if he had any honor left.

Posted by: jondoran@angstyquestions at April 23, 2015 04:06 PM (g1MTt)

260 Nah most of our friends from south of the border see themselves as white.

...

Mainly, because, you know, theyre descendants of Spanish, Portuguese, and Italians.
Posted by: mynewhandle at April 23, 2015 03:31 PM (AkOaV)


The ones pouring across the border are Mestizos - primarily the descendants of Mayan and Aztec Indians, mixed with black, with a small amount of Euro ancestry. They are not white. The small Mexican elite is essentially white, but not the people they are encouraging to move to the US. They are basically ethnically cleansing their country of undesirables and foisting them on the US.

Posted by: despair at April 23, 2015 04:14 PM (J6suc)

261 "Face it -- she can't be worse than Holder..."


Write that down and pull it out in six months.

Posted by: despair at April 23, 2015 04:22 PM (J6suc)

262 Hillary is right.

RINOs have the House and the Senate.

What difference, at this point, does it make.

Posted by: NCwoof at April 23, 2015 06:10 PM (aUQgu)

263 255 "lynch will only be around for 18 months until we lose the 2016 election."

FTFY!

BTW, who do you think Shrillery will appoint as AG?

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 23, 2015 06:26 PM (jMMCO)

264 Just like George Will predicted, Mitch McConnell has restored "dignity to the Senate." Yessiree.

Posted by: saltlick at April 23, 2015 06:34 PM (ggwIn)

265 Fuck.Jeff.Flake.

How the hell did he get so RINO so fast?

Posted by: underdown at April 23, 2015 06:37 PM (Mxkwf)

266 Between January and March, Cruz missed more votes
than any other senator except Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who
was injured while exercising, and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), another
presidential candidate.

:Missed a few votes.....


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 23, 2015 03:47 PM (kdS6q)

I saw that and am not concerned unless I see more details that would lead to concern. He did not vote for the human trafficking bill in the 22nd but he apparently was not there the 22nd. He voted against cloture for Loretta Lynch (thus expressing his disapproval of her confirmation) so I do not take his failure to stick around for the final vote (to vote no again) as him trying to avoid taking a position. He generally votes the vast majority of the time and, more importantly, can be counted on to not vote against the people who elected him to be conservative.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 23, 2015 06:45 PM (5DGKy)

267 Please note my guys, vitter and cassidy, are not on that list. Mary L. would have totally voted for her. Everybody named in that tweet can go straight to hell as far as i'm concerned. QUIT ELECTING RETARDS

Posted by: hurricane567 at April 24, 2015 02:55 AM (XWXB+)

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