Fundamental Concepts - Why the Left Hates Families [Weirddave]

I know that many Progs will contest this. "We don't hate families! Why I have a mother/father/spouse/child/etc.. who means the world to me! That's crazy wingnut hater talk!". That's probably true, and as individuals I'm winning to concede that they may think families are spiffy. As Progressives, however, they are in service to an ideology whose greatest obstacle is the extended and especially the nuclear family. Not Conservatives, not Christians, not the Koch brothers. The family is the greatest threat to the Progressive worldview.

In order to understand this, we must first identify what the Progressive worldview is. Boiled down to its simplest, it's this: "The government can do it better". Do what? Anything. Individual Progressives might believe that there should be certain limits on what the government should do, but the overall guiding star of the movement is that everything will work better when the government is in charge. It's nothing more than a Utopian vision: Things aren't perfect now, but when WE are in charge of them, then we can make them perfect. The fact that perfection is impossible never enters their minds.*

Don't believe me? Don't listen to me, listen to them. In 2012 the Democrat Party played a film at their convention outlining their values. "Government is just the word for things we do together" was a line prominently featured. Hillary Clinton titled her book "It takes a Village", in other words "All of us"(and what's that word for things we all do together? Hmmm.). When I say that they'll tell you, I mean that they will TELL YOU:

So what's stopping them? Well, the biggest thing that's stopping them is that America, 2015, didn't just spring into existence. We have a preexisting social infrastructure as a nation, and if they mean to replace it with big government, the existing structure must be destroyed. Government must be the only answer to the question "Who takes care of the people?", and everything the Left has been doing for the past century has this at its end. The idea that the people are capable of taking care of themselves is anathema to Progressive dogma, and as such it must be eliminated from the lexicon. Ask a Progressive what the great successes of the past hundred years have been, and I guarantee that however long their list, the following things will be prominently featured: Social Security. Welfare. Unions. Obamacare. National Education Standards. Each of these programs replaces traditional institutions that served the same function.

Social Security - Eliminates the need for extended families
Welfare - Replaces private charity
Unions - Gets rid of the idea of merit in employment
Obamacare - The individual surrenders responsibility for their own wellness to the state
National Education Standards - Indoctrinate the young, and the world will fall into your lap

And so on. They've been remarkably successful in all of these efforts, but the family has remained the hardest nut to crack, and any society that maintains a robust family structure will always be resistant to the siren song of a collectivist Utopia. A person who graduates high school and waits until after marriage to have children has a less that 10% chance of falling into poverty. That's a fact. A population where more than 90% of its members are living above the poverty line doesn't need a welfare state, private charity is more than capable of caring for those that fall through the cracks. A society where families can oversee their child's education on the local level resists ideological indoctrination. A society where parents can chose to work harder and expect to reap the rewards of that hard work and where effort is admired doesn't need unions to prop up the lazy and the corrupt. A society where strong families are able to accumulate resources over their lifetime doesn't need Social Security. In short, a society of strong families doesn't need much government at all, and Progressives know this, which is why the nuclear family must be destroyed as a cohesive social unit.

I could write about a zillion words here outlining how Progressive policies have attacked the family in the last 50 years, but I'm going to assume that most of you reading this are well aware of the statistics, how the welfare state has led to an explosion of single parent families, many of who are utterly dependent on government largess to survive. If not, there are voluminous works available online, just Bing them. I would close with one simple observation: The Progressive elite, the white upper and upper middle class, they don't practice what they preach. By and large, their lives are still structured around the traditional family. They raise their children together (even if divorced), and see that they finish school before marrying, and they make sure that all of the tradition benefits of familiar wealth accumulation, power and connection are bestowed upon their children. Abortion takes care of any nasty premarital "accidents", ensuring that their children aren't "punished with a baby". They know that the family is the key to prosperity, they just want to ensure that these benefits are reserved for those of their class and breeding. Who cares if the hoi polloi are being condemned to a lifetime of toil and misery by excessive government, Progressives have to have someone to rule, don't they?

*I'm taking their stated beliefs at face value, and many of the foot soldiers of the revolution, Lenin's "useful idiots", probably do in fact believe that they are working for a "better world". Most of the leadership behind the Progressive movement is far too smart to believe any such thing. Utopia is just the flashy bling to dazzle the rubes. Their motivations are no different than any other humans. There's an acronym that identify why people become traitors or spies - MICE - which stands for Money, Ideology, Coercion and Ego. I don't think it vastly different here, although I'd substitute Power for Coercion in those that seek to be the ruling class.

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1 I won't be able to comment much, I am currently camping at scout camp with Little. I somehow got drafted into being Cubmaster.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 28, 2015 10:24 AM (4MRvZ)

2 Some one call the corgis

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 28, 2015 10:25 AM (0FSuD)

3 Utopia is just the flashy bling to dazzle the rubes. Their motivations
are no different than any other humans. There's an acronym that identify
why people become traitors or spies - MICE - which stands for Money,
Ideology, Coercion and Ego.

In our brave new world, the women will, of course, have to outnumber the men by 10:1. I can walk, mein fuhrer!

Posted by: Dr. Strangepep at March 28, 2015 10:27 AM (4nR9/)

4 Ensummoned....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2015 10:29 AM (ipqYf)

5 "progressive" is just another label for "communist" because that word has been discredited. Communists have always loved the "state".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2015 10:31 AM (wlDny)

6 Love these posts. Thanks Dave.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 28, 2015 10:31 AM (o2yvE)

7 This was explained in Liberal Fascism. No, really, it was.

Posted by: tsj017 at March 28, 2015 10:32 AM (t1f6S)

8 WD, thanks. Not only for the article but for teaching/guiding the young ones!

Posted by: FCF at March 28, 2015 10:32 AM (kejii)

9 Utopia is a very small town in the Texas Hill Country. Aptly named, it's a beautiful place, albeit a bit too far removed from metro areas with all the services.

http://www.utopiatexas.info/

Hence, why it didn't make the list of suitable Texas towns I'd sent to Carol.

But yeah, it's beautiful. And they don't like progressives there, either.

Jim
Sloop New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 28, 2015 10:32 AM (RzZOc)

10 This is what this country use to do on it's own.

http://tinyurl.com/55uoag

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 28, 2015 10:32 AM (0FSuD)

11 Control.

Break the family down, where do you go? Uncle Sugar.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2015 10:33 AM (ipqYf)

12 1
I won't be able to comment much, I am currently camping at scout camp with Little. I somehow got drafted into being Cubmaster.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 28, 2015 10:24 AM (4MRvZ)

Teach them well Dave. Lets the cubs grow to be Lions to devour our enemies.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 28, 2015 10:33 AM (o2yvE)

13 "But yeah, it's beautiful. And they don't like progressives there, either.
"

Nice little place.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2015 10:34 AM (ipqYf)

14 @10 and this is why there is an Idrondike race. Blato has a statue in Central Park, NYC http://tinyurl.com/nbejqz7

http://tinyurl.com/nkx37kd

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 28, 2015 10:36 AM (0FSuD)

15 What makes the progs even crazier is if you are happy. Happy being married, raising a family and out spoken in your values. I let their insults run off of me like rain and smile.

Posted by: bossy barbara at March 28, 2015 10:39 AM (l1zOH)

16 I'd never hit a woman, but if anyone ever needed a good, aimed, properly applied, punch to the face this bitch is it.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 28, 2015 10:40 AM (x3YFz)

17 and the only thing that I might offer is sidelong agreement that the concept of "it takes a village" simply means any adult on the block can beat your ass if you're doing something stupid.

Posted by: TangoNine at March 28, 2015 10:41 AM (x3YFz)

18
There's plenty of evidence to show that the commies and Donks (BIRM) want to destroy the family, indeed any traditional institution, but you have to understand that they have little interest in what comes afterwards. Yes, they put those plans in place, but they're just setting the stage for another round of tearing shit down.

Destruction for destruction's sake is what's really important to them.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2015 10:41 AM (ynQIy)

19 "
What makes the progs even crazier is if you are hgrappy."

Boy have you nailed it. Happy is not acceptable to a bunch who is miserable, aggrieved, upset, and, generally mad at the world.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2015 10:42 AM (ipqYf)

20 15 What makes the progs even crazier is if you are happy. Happy being married, raising a family and out spoken in your values. I let their insults run off of me like rain and smile.
Posted by: bossy barbara at March 28, 2015 10:39 AM (l1zOH)

+ infinity

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2015 10:42 AM (KkVB6)

21 @10 Maybe not the strongest argument, there. Goes to constitutionally-derived powers, though: all those dogs and drivers were employees or contractors of the Post Office Department. Its successor is regularly reviled, herein.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 28, 2015 10:42 AM (xq1UY)

22 spot on, WD. and as noted, an essential part of this is that on any issue, it's best FOR OTHERS, not for me. I want to send my children to private school.... but everyone else has to have theirs sent to CC state schools. I want private healthcare, but everyone else has to have socialized medicine. I want a cushy government phony-baloney job with 100% job security, but everyone else gets mandated minimum wage. and on and on.

Posted by: goatexchange at March 28, 2015 10:43 AM (wcWEb)

23 What makes the progs even crazier is if you are happy. Happy being married, raising a family and out spoken in your values. I let their insults run off of me like rain and smile.
Posted by: bossy barbara at March 28, 2015 10:39 AM (l1zOH)

Exactly. Being happy and enjoying your life in spite of them send the off in a red hot rage.

How dare you be happy without consulting them!

lol

Posted by: TangoNine at March 28, 2015 10:46 AM (x3YFz)

24 The "Progressive/Communist" idea of the government/party taking care of its "citizens" is actually an ancient and very durable idea. Pharaoh/King/HighPriest...Same idea in the old days, tho with less of the hypocritical "government servants" cr@p, instead it was "divine order that a noble god-hero rule over all the ants, uhhh, subjects." But of course, that's where progressivism/communism always leads, right?

But the ancient kings also recognized that their survival depended on having numerous strong, obedient, well-trained soldiers, so the successful ones saw the wisdom in letting their subjects have more wealth, security, and NEVER interfered with family upbringing. In that sense, even those despots were more enlightened than modern progs/Reds.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus (@JewishOdysseus) at March 28, 2015 10:50 AM (FWwQD)

25 You know what's really fun? Having a large families. Liberals think they are really clever comparing your vagina to a clown car.

Ha! Jokes on you assholes. My kids have all been c-sections.

Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2015 10:50 AM (DI7QP)

26 I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University.

Regrettably, the exact opposite has become the case.

Posted by: Zombie Bill Buckley at March 28, 2015 10:50 AM (yxw0r)

27 *large family

Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2015 10:50 AM (DI7QP)

28 Mornin. Just stopped in for a second. On my way to my son's high school track meet. My wife is with my daughter at her tennis match. We support our kids. Our kids. They don't belong to the "community" and a village didn't raise them. We don't sing Kumbaya, and we don't look for handouts. Mostly we just want our family left alone.

Anyway, I have a Capt Morgan pain behind my left eye, and it's time to go.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at March 28, 2015 10:51 AM (xrURQ)

29 Have fun, 'bill.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2015 10:53 AM (ipqYf)

30 Allan Bloom called the family "a point of resistance to the state." When you acquire property and marry and have kids, you want to be in full possession of them, to protect them against harm.

The hungry Leviathan hates this.

Posted by: PJ at March 28, 2015 10:53 AM (cHuNI)

31 On my way to my son's high school track meet. My wife is with my daughter at her tennis match. We support our kids.

For the first time in 27 years, my wife and I have no child obligations on our weekends: no meets, no concerts or recitals, no robotics, no OM, no nothing. Zilch, zero, nada, the big goose egg, the null set.

I'd like to tell you I miss all that, but I was taught not to lie. Drinking coffee and scratching myself is just fine for now. And the HQ, of course.

Posted by: pep at March 28, 2015 10:55 AM (4nR9/)

32 Thank Ricardo.

PJ, I must be one of Allan Blooms disciples.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at March 28, 2015 10:55 AM (xrURQ)

33 The Federal Empire orders you to breed more children units.

Posted by: eman at March 28, 2015 10:55 AM (MQEz6)

34 When you acquire property and marry and have kids, you want to be in full possession of them, to protect them against harm.[i\/i]

And pass the property on to your kids. Leviathan REALLY hates that.

Posted by: pep at March 28, 2015 10:56 AM (4nR9/)

Posted by: pep at March 28, 2015 10:57 AM (4nR9/)

36 I believe in families. Well, in other people's families, anyway. For the children. Well, for the boys, anyway. But that's only an allegation.

Posted by: Harry Reid, The (alleged) Searchlight Strangler at March 28, 2015 10:58 AM (vd4oB)

37 The left hates families, religion ( other than communism better known as progressivism now a days), self reliance, competition, and rules they don't like.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2015 10:58 AM (rDqRv)

38 "It takes a village to raise a child"

Only an idiot believes that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2015 11:00 AM (rDqRv)

39 My wife is a retired teacher. Most of her friends are retired teachers. They, for the most part, are libby liberals. But, they don't see the irony in the Gov making the national teaching standards, yet they are totally against standardized testing to make sure the little ones are learning what the gov wants them to.

Posted by: Bruce at March 28, 2015 11:01 AM (8ikIW)

40 I don't know nothin' about no families.. but I loves women! Remember I said 'It tastes good like an intern should'. Haw! Haw!

Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at March 28, 2015 11:01 AM (gwG9s)

41 Destruction for destruction's sake is what's really important to them.

Also discussed in Liberal Fascism.

If you haven't read it - you should. I don't agree with all of it - but it's really damn worth the time.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2015 11:01 AM (oKFzc)

42 "Only an idiot believes that"

Hey!

Posted by: Hillary! at March 28, 2015 11:02 AM (ipqYf)

43 I believe in America. America has made my fortune. And I raised my daughter in the

American fashion. I gave her freedom, but I taught her never to dishonor her family.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2015 11:02 AM (rDqRv)

44 "It takes a village to raise a child"

Only an idiot believes that

Okay, it takes a village idiot to raise a child.

Posted by: Bruce at March 28, 2015 11:03 AM (8ikIW)

45 I was a founding member of Sly & The Family Stone. Word.

Posted by: Brian Williams at March 28, 2015 11:03 AM (gwG9s)

46 I don't know that the prog-commie left hates the traditional idea of the family, per se. As pointed out in the post, many of them live their own lives according to that basic model. What they hate is that the traditional family is centered on, traditionally, conservative-individualist and/or Christian ideas and values. That's what they hate and wish to destroy.

Posted by: Stu-22 at March 28, 2015 11:04 AM (vd4oB)

47 What they hate is that the traditional family is centered on, traditionally, conservative-individualist and/or Christian ideas and values. That's what they hate and wish to destroy.
Posted by: Stu-22 at March 28, 2015 11:04 AM (vd4oB)

Judeo Christian Values

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2015 11:06 AM (rDqRv)

48 I love families! Especially families that produce well-formed but gullible teen girls!

Posted by: Bill Clinton, ready to become First Dude at March 28, 2015 11:06 AM (vd4oB)

49 Allan Bloom fan here, also.

I hear surprisingly little about him.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2015 11:06 AM (l1zOH)

50 38 "It takes a village to raise a child"

Only an idiot believes that

Nothing wrong with the "it takes a village" statement if you are putting it into proper context. For example, the whole village can kick the neighborhood kid in the ass for wearing low-riders.

Posted by: Citation X driver at March 28, 2015 11:07 AM (Sqmjr)

51 WeirdDave, your last paragraph about Prog/Coms "making the world a better place" bullshit got very ably addressed on The Americans the other night.

Enough so that Elizabeth was brought to tears for the first time over her mission.

Great post, BTW.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 28, 2015 11:07 AM (0HooB)

52 Judeo Christian Values
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2015 11:06 AM (rDqRv)

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That's fine. Judeo, too.

Posted by: Stu-22 at March 28, 2015 11:08 AM (vd4oB)

53 Unions don't have to get rid of or even slightly oppose the idea of merit in employment. Further, merit in employment did jack-all, pre-union, to curb genuine abuses in the workplace.

Some, perhaps most, unions do protect the incompetent. So what? Every non-union shop I've worked in had its protected incompetents, as well. People related to or just buddies with management. People whose talents ran to looking busy rather than getting things done. It is fucking *rare* to see these people get their comeuppance, and basically everyone who has ever held a job knows that.

Please find some other ideological peg to hang your union-hate on, because that one is pretty weak.

Lack of merit is not malfeasance. I'm not talking about teachers who abuse kids. That's not 'bad teaching', that's crime.

Posted by: Gundo at March 28, 2015 11:08 AM (WSULF)

54 People say "it takes a village" when they want to interfere with your parenting.

My mom has made the comment several times and what she means is "I want to do something that you don't want me to do, but it's for the childrennnnnn"

Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2015 11:08 AM (DI7QP)

55 Thus it was that the Hitler Youth were formed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2015 11:09 AM (l1zOH)

56 Johnny, I know it sore of scary going into the woods at night.

Think how I am going to feel coming out alone.

Posted by: Harry Reid, Pederast at March 28, 2015 11:09 AM (0FSuD)

57 Nothing wrong with the "it takes a village" statement if you are putting it into proper context. For example, the whole village can kick the neighborhood kid in the ass for wearing low-riders.
Posted by: Citation X driver at March 28, 2015 11:07 AM (Sqmjr)

yeah THAT I agree with, but pretty sure that is not what canckels meant

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2015 11:10 AM (rDqRv)

58 It's 10:00 AM CST.

The idiots are rolling out of bed I see.

Posted by: Hillary! at March 28, 2015 11:11 AM (ipqYf)

59 Get away, Hag!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2015 11:12 AM (ipqYf)

60 A member of the New York Times editorial board suggested that pro-Israel Republicans were more loyal to Israel than to the United States on Friday.

Weasel Zippers

A) most to the Republicans Backing Israel are NOT Jewish

B) It's an outright anti-semitic statement.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2015 11:12 AM (rDqRv)

61 The first thing a cult does is separate their victim/member from their family. It's easy to manipulate people without that support.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at March 28, 2015 11:12 AM (lwUXV)

62
State vs. Family, microcosmically:
I'm at the beach a few years ago, standing at water's edge watching my young children swim. Woman and a couple of friends, who I'd only just met and talked to briefly, were sitting behind me and noticed that I hadn't moved from my spot for nearly an hour. (My kids sure liked to splash around back then.)
"You can take a break," she said. "We'll keep an eye on them."
Ordinarily I would have answered politely, "That's OK. I'm good." But her tone was clearly,"You don't have to prove you're the big macho sheepdog watching your sheep." So I answered instead, "That sounds pretty great. I'd like to catch some rays, but tell me, are you prepared to drown in the Atlantic Oceanif necessary trying to save another person's child? I don't know if I could, to be perfectly honest. I know without question I would for these, though, because they're MINE, and that's the level of commitment they require."
Then I yelled to the kids, "Time's up!"

Posted by: letitbeme at March 28, 2015 11:12 AM (4uDUj)

63 "Unions don't have to get rid of or even slightly oppose the idea of merit in employment"

Uh, yeah. They do. My husband was a Teamster. Bad employees made the same amount that he did busting his ass. They got the same automatic raise. There was no incentive at all to work harder or do better unless you just happened to be one of those people who can't stand doing a bad job at your job.

He was eventually rewarded with a promotion. So hey, at least there was that. Then he got to fight the union on the other side every time an employee decided to just not show up to work and then run crying to the union when you tried to fire them.

The only way you could fire a bad employee was if it was some sort of union deal.

Working as a union employee as a college student taught him more than the actual college part of being a college student.

Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2015 11:12 AM (DI7QP)

64 The first thing a cult does is separate their victim/member from their family. It's easy to manipulate people without that support.
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at March 28, 2015 11:12 AM (lwUXV)

Which is EXACTLY what the Colleges and Universities in America are doing now. We have let the radical left hijack our educational system. Shame on us

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2015 11:13 AM (rDqRv)

65
Speaking of family, I'm watching this 2.5 hr special on Ricky3's burial. Dont think I can take much more. You have these royals showing up in royal blue stretch rolls royces with those silly little hats and skirts about a foot above the knee. This elaborate ceremony is dumb.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 28, 2015 11:14 AM (iQIUe)

66 I am sick and tired of these auto plays on conservative sites like Wash times and Wash Examiner and DC.

They are obnoxious.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 28, 2015 11:15 AM (0FSuD)

67 Melissa Harris-Perry is one nutty broad.

When I think of the "whole collectivist notion" of "investing in our children," I think of federal penitentiaries.

Posted by: Fritz at March 28, 2015 11:16 AM (UzPAd)

68 Let me boil this down to it's essence. I'm quite serious about this. Sometimes all this talk about "What makes Progressives tick" kind of gets under my damned skin.

Progressives are easy to understand. They're no different than the Moralistic Busy Body down the street that always reminds you Church is open on Sunday. No different than your Pushy Father-In-Law that really knows how to get the best deal at the Car Dealership. No different than the Asshole at Work that you don't talk around much, because no matter what the topic - He Knows How To Do It Better.

Progressives just Live to Live Your Life for You. Because, frankly, that's easier than Living Their Own Lives. They're an entire Cultural Movement dedicated to the notion of the SMother (see The Goldbergs). That's really it.

They're an entire collection of people that just need to be told "No", "Butt the Fuck Out", and "Mind Your Own Business". Just like Church Lady, your Father-In-Law, and the Asshole at Work.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2015 11:16 AM (oKFzc)

69 I find your faith in American families disturbing...

Posted by: President Quisling Bottom at March 28, 2015 11:16 AM (YzJeP)

70 "Melissa Harris-Perry is one nutty broad. "

Was it the tampon ear-rings..?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2015 11:17 AM (ipqYf)

71 Imagine there was no Social Security (as there was't before 1935.)

What would be the best way to guarantee to your financial security in your old age? Have ten kids. Assuming they don't all hate you, and at least a couple of them manage to land decent jobs, they probably won't let you die penniless in a gutter. The more kids, the better in fact.

Nowadays, people with many children are almost universally looked down upon. Children used to be considered a blessing. Now they increasingly seem to be viewed as a burden, or, at best an accessory. Or, ultimately, in the words of Obama, a "punish[ment]".

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at March 28, 2015 11:18 AM (ZMbDb)

72 The gheying of America continues.

http://tinyurl.com/psjhrw2

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 28, 2015 11:19 AM (0FSuD)

73 "Just like Church Lady, your Father-In-Law, and the Asshole at Work."

Heh.

I hate pushy people. Shut the fcuk up and go away. I didn't ask for your opinion or help.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2015 11:19 AM (ipqYf)

74 Was it the tampon ear-rings..?

She should've left those in her ears to keep her brains from leaking out.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 28, 2015 11:19 AM (0HooB)

75 39 But, they don't see the irony in the Gov making the
national teaching standards, yet they are totally against standardized
testing to make sure the little ones are learning what the gov wants
them to.

Posted by: Bruce at March 28, 2015 11:01 AM (8ikIW)

That is because some localities base teachers raises and promotions on those standardized tests. And that has a disparate impact on AA hires that speak Ebonics and have an IQ of 10.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2015 11:19 AM (wlDny)

76 I hate pushy people. Shut the fcuk up and go away. I didn't ask for your opinion or help.
Posted by: Ricardo
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I can help you with that attitude.

Posted by: A Life Coach at March 28, 2015 11:21 AM (l1zOH)

77 Progressives want Julia to be the role model for everyone. Government provides.

There is also a racial aspect to this. Since 70% of all Black children are born out of wedlock, it's unfair for the rest of you to not do the same.

We'll look after you without any daddy to have around.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 28, 2015 11:22 AM (0FSuD)

78 OT: We're all Jews now.

http://tinyurl.com/nztjnoe

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 28, 2015 11:22 AM (LImiJ)

79 Well, I don't think they *hate* families.

I think they are just perturbed that families and religion have a larger scope of influence in the average person's life than the all-powerful State.

to most of the Left, we ought to get our moral cues from the culture, from the state, from the public school teacher, etc., and the family ought to be really just an agent of the State propagating those same moral cues. And religion is just some silly outdated tradition that crazy people practice in their free time but crazy religious folks should keep their crazy religious practices to themselves and not bother anyone else about it.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 28, 2015 11:23 AM (2ap0X)

80 "The family is the greatest threat to the Progressive worldview."

Well, the Judeo-Christian focused family is, and it isn't just a threat to Progressives ...

Look up "Janissary".

Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2015 11:24 AM (JBggj)

81 "I can help you with that attitude.

Posted by: A Life Coach"

And you especially.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2015 11:24 AM (ipqYf)

82 I hate pushy people. Shut the fcuk up and go away. I didn't ask for your opinion or help.

I truly mean it. Take the lovely and talented Melissa Harris-Perry.

That bitch needs a firm dose of "I couldn't give a shit less about your opinion." I have no interest in "debating" the various merits of Collectivized Child Rearing with her - no more than I intend to discuss "Advanced Check Kiting for Fun and Profit" with my neighbor. That shit just ain't going to fly. And in both cases - my only response is "Molon Labe" - regarding my children and my check book.

Where the hell is AllenG when I need him ? He could put a fine rant on this.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2015 11:25 AM (oKFzc)

83 Utopia is a very small town in the Texas Hill Country. Aptly named, it's a beautiful place, albeit a bit too far removed from metro areas with all the services.

-
Paradise is a tiny town in the desert that's a pretty nice place except it's infested with giant man eating worms from outer space.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 28, 2015 11:26 AM (LImiJ)

84 That families should be more committed to themselves than to apparatus of The State, is simply unacceptable.

Posted by: Progressive at March 28, 2015 11:26 AM (l1zOH)

85 78
OT: We're all Jews now.

http://tinyurl.com/nztjnoe

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 28, 2015 11:22 AM (LImiJ)

OK, but I am not giving up lobster or crab and I am not eating that Gelte fish crap.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 28, 2015 11:26 AM (0FSuD)

86 The assault on the Family, is more symptom, than cause.

Its not that they hate families, its that they believe in State, over individuals.

They do not believe in Personal Rights. That an individual has Rights inherent unto themselves.

The don't believe in personal responsibility, because with responsibility, comes personal consequence, which THEY are loath to pay.

The Family is the next step up from the individual, therefore it is being destroyed as well.

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 28, 2015 11:26 AM (qh617)

87 @85

Oh and I am still eating PORK BBQ.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 28, 2015 11:27 AM (0FSuD)

88 That is because some localities base teachers raises
and promotions on those standardized tests. And that has a disparate
impact on AA hires that speak Ebonics and have an IQ of 10.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

When my wife and the others were teaching, they would all complain about certain teachers that were not good, were just riding their time out, only show movies on Friday type things. But a way to make sure that they were actually doing their jobs? NONONONONONONONO

Posted by: Bruce at March 28, 2015 11:27 AM (8ikIW)

89 "Okay, it takes a village idiot to raise a child."

Nice

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 28, 2015 11:28 AM (WxYKp)

90 Paradise is a tiny town in the desert that's a pretty nice place except it's infested with giant man eating worms from outer space.
Posted by: The Great
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I spent a weird afternoon in Paradise, MI. I mean weird. I'll also note that at the state park there, an outbuilding spontaneously combusted, apparently from an accumulation of bat guano.

Posted by: Progressive at March 28, 2015 11:29 AM (l1zOH)

91 It takes a child to raze a village.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2015 11:30 AM (l1zOH)

92 For the love of all that is Holy in this life and the next, somebody please start shoving tampons into Melissa Harris-Perry's mouth until she either stops babbling like a zoo monkey or stops moving entirely.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 28, 2015 11:30 AM (JC5hl)

93 "Nice"

I think you may have a conflict of interest in this one, VIA.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2015 11:30 AM (ipqYf)

94 When my wife and the others were teaching, they would all complain about certain teachers that were not good, were just riding their time out, only show movies on Friday type things. But a way to make sure that they were actually doing their jobs? NONONONONONONONO
Posted by: Bruce
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I had a college Prof. who would actually nod off during class. Tenure.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2015 11:32 AM (l1zOH)

95 I had a college Prof. who would actually nod off during class. Tenure.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2015 11:32 AM (l1zOH)

I knew a college student who nodded off in class and he .....oh wait that was me. Never mind

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2015 11:33 AM (rDqRv)

96 I knew a college student who nodded off in class and he .....oh wait that was me. Never mind.

I was always just thankful they never checked what you were drinking during night lectures.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2015 11:36 AM (oKFzc)

97 Hammer did you get any snow up there in hippie land?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 28, 2015 11:36 AM (0FSuD)

98 I went to a liberal arts school. Hard to sleep in a class of 15. Not impossible though...

Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2015 11:37 AM (DI7QP)

99 Anybody else reading up on dark matter from the sidebar?

Fascinating.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2015 11:37 AM (ipqYf)

100 I never went to class. I just partied with the professors and let them pass me around like a megadoobie...

Posted by: President Quisling Bottom at March 28, 2015 11:39 AM (YzJeP)

101 Sure the 'elite' Progs have a nuclear family, but it ain't the kind you and I are used to. Take the Clintons, for example. (Might as well, no one else will have them). Ma and Pa have remained together even though Pa is a proven serial philanderer. It's a marriage of convenience only. And they apparently passed that on to Chelsea; there are many rumors that her and her hubby split and were on the verge of divorce, with him doing his best ski bum imitation shortly after they hitched.

One can imagine the facts of life talk those three had, explaining that appearances must be kept up if this multi-generational gravy train is gonna keep rolling along.

And of course all the rumors about TFG and The Mooch actually hating each other and wanting to split, but see the paragraphs above. They sure take a lot of separate vacas, doncha know.

They are Potemkin families.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 28, 2015 11:42 AM (tc4Qh)

102 My Mandarin teacher told us in the early years of the Communist revolution, books did not contain references to traditional families.

No mothers
No fathers

Just uncles and friends

Kind of like Disney characters

Posted by: Asparagustuteme Ex Infernis at March 28, 2015 11:43 AM (n9OCk)

103 I think you may have a conflict of interest in this one, VIA. "

Eh....could be.

Either way, the only way to ensure that your Village is equipped with a Certified Village Idiot (TM) is to hire through the Apprenticeship program.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 28, 2015 11:43 AM (WxYKp)

104 Hammer did you get any snow up there in hippie land?
Posted by: Nip
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No, but 23 deg. last night, with wind. Now 30 deg. and breezy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2015 11:44 AM (l1zOH)

105 Snowing here in NJ now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2015 11:45 AM (rDqRv)

106 "Snowing here in NJ now"

Screw.

That.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2015 11:46 AM (ipqYf)

107 Another great post, Weirddave!

Speaking of Jonah Goldberg, years ago he went off on supposed African wisdom such as "It takes a village to raise a child"that is never attributed to any person or tribe:

"Why on earth do Hillary Clinton et. al. think that Africa --- never mind African 'tribes' --- are a compelling
philosophical and political role model for the United States of America?
Africa? Africa? ...Maybe there are studies that show 'Africans' are
happier than Americans --- when the former aren't dying of malnutrition or
medieval health care, or desperately trying to emigrate to the West, no
doubt."

http://global.nationalreview.com/corner/148143/ re-african-wisdom-jonah-goldberg

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2015 11:46 AM (TLTHv)

108 While your analysis is sound, you miss an important point; Progressive is jealous of your family. Progressive wants you to work hard and sacrifice for Others. All Others. When he sees you working hard and sacrificing for your family, his thought is, "You love them more than you love Me!"

Yes, Progressive. I love them far more than I love You. I would kill to protect them. Kill You, for instance. With a smile on my face.

Posted by: Jerome at March 28, 2015 11:46 AM (Opcdk)

109 Germanwings Pilot Told Girlfriend He Was Planning Horrific Act That Would Be Remembered Forever

Weasel Zippers

And she promptly reported it to authorities.. Oh no? Thanks Bitch

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2015 11:46 AM (rDqRv)

110 "Government is just the word for things we do together"

Whether you like it or not.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 28, 2015 11:46 AM (MMC8r)

111 "
Just uncles and friends "

Now the Chinese have no aunts or uncles or cousins. Thanks to the 1 child policy.

Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2015 11:46 AM (DI7QP)

112
Unions don't have to get rid of or even slightly oppose the idea of merit in employment. Further, merit in employment did jack-all, pre-union, to curb genuine abuses in the workplace.

Some, perhaps most, unions do protect the incompetent. So what? Every non-union shop I've worked in had its protected incompetents, as well. People related to or just buddies with management. People whose talents ran to looking busy rather than getting things done. It is fucking *rare* to see these people get their comeuppance, and basically everyone who has ever held a job knows that.

Please find some other ideological peg to hang your union-hate on, because that one is pretty weak.

Lack of merit is not malfeasance. I'm not talking about teachers who abuse kids. That's not 'bad teaching', that's crime.

Posted by: Gundo at March 28, 2015 11:08 AM (WSULF)

http://tinyurl.com/qbebxss

*mic drop*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2015 11:47 AM (ynQIy)

113 "109 Germanwings Pilot Told Girlfriend He Was Planning Horrific Act That Would Be Remembered Forever

Weasel Zippers

And she promptly reported it to authorities.. Oh no? Thanks Bitch"

Wtf? Hold her responsible as well.

Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2015 11:47 AM (DI7QP)

114 Pro tip. For Easter do NOT get me any polo shirts. Wife bought the entire stock of 100% cotton shirts from club because they were going to the Under Armour slinky shirt which I hate.

I have over 50 cotton shirts now.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 28, 2015 11:47 AM (0FSuD)

115 Short version: the Left needs people to be poor, stupid (and/or indoctrinated), helpless and scared of independence.

It's why they want to import a new serf class of illegal immigrants (i.e., government wards).

It's why they've turned higher education into a combination of re-education camps and day-care centers for post-adolescents.

Posted by: rrpjr at March 28, 2015 11:48 AM (s/yC1)

116 Were the Battling Bastards of liberalism
No Mama, No Papa, No Uncle Sam,
No aunts, no uncles, no cousins, no nieces,
No pills, no planes, no artillery pieces,
And nobody gives a damn!

( with all due respect and acknowledgment to Frank Hewlett)

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2015 11:49 AM (rDqRv)

117 Man this Chink food sure is good. Where we off to next Thailand?

I want to get some pearls.

Posted by: Mrs Robinson, Moochies mom at March 28, 2015 11:53 AM (0FSuD)

118 Speaking of Jonah Goldberg, years ago he went off on supposed African wisdom such as "It takes a village to raise a child"that is never attributed to any person or tribe:
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When someone points out the literature of the Tolstoy of Africa, then I will read it. - Wm. F. Buckley Jr.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2015 11:53 AM (l1zOH)

119 Get a long little Corgis.

Or a bunch of short ones.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 28, 2015 11:54 AM (0HooB)

120 "The family is the test of freedom; because the family is the only thing that the free man makes for himself and by himself." ~ G.K.Chesterton

Posted by: Lazarus at March 28, 2015 11:55 AM (5jiyE)

121 How dare you be happy without consulting them!

lol

Posted by: TangoNine
--------------------------------

Happiness will be scheduled for you, so long as you are a good little apparatchik.

Posted by: JohnMc at March 28, 2015 11:59 AM (RHBWt)

122 The co-pilot Andreas Lubitz who steered an airline with 150 people on board into a French mountainside had been dumped by his girlfriend the day prior to the crash and was undergoing treatment for depression from a doctor, according to reports Saturday.

Nice

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2015 12:00 PM (rDqRv)

123 Here is a detailed statement --- from 2006!--- in which progressives spelled out exactly what they wished to accomplish with the push for same-sex marriage (hint: ssm if just the first step - to completely redefining families and goverment relationship to these families). This is why people lecturing us that it's just about people in same-sex relationships wanting in on the happiness of married heterosexuals was so annoying:

http://www.beyondmarriage.org/full_statement.html

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2015 12:02 PM (TLTHv)

124 Yeah, you don't hear much about Bloom. He was gay, and after a while no one could really figure out if he was conservative or liberal. So the media stopped talking about him, airbrushed him out.

Posted by: PJ at March 28, 2015 12:05 PM (cHuNI)

125 The progressives are a sickly brew of self hating blacks, self hating whites, and self hating Americans. They hate their miserable lives for various reasons and they want to make sure you hate yours too.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 28, 2015 12:05 PM (FMbng)

126 " The Progressive elite, the white upper and upper middle class, they don't practice what they preach. "

This is exactly what Jonah Goldberg has said: liberals are afraid to preach what they practice.

Posted by: the Jonah variations at March 28, 2015 12:11 PM (XrHO0)

127 This is exactly what Jonah Goldberg has said: liberals are afraid to preach what they practice.
Posted by: the Jonah variations at March 28, 2015 12:11 PM

Weren't you preaching about a little exercise there, buddy?

Posted by: The Couch at March 28, 2015 12:15 PM (F8pXk)

128 "Get a long legged Corgi"
Seriously? They make sucha a thing?

Posted by: Juice Ruben at March 28, 2015 12:20 PM (835mE)

129 I thought the C in MICE stood for Conscience?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at March 28, 2015 01:17 PM (Gosad)

130 If you don't watch "The Americans," you should, as this concept that socialists hate the family unit plays out in the episodes each week.

When I saw the ads for the show before it premiered, I assumed it was just another step in the left's rewriting of history in support of advancing the socialist cause. But that isn't the case; I've found it to be quite scathing in its portrayal of socialism, what hypocrisy it is.

If you don't know what the show's about, it was inspired by the Anna Chapman spy ring story, and how it was being reported at the time that the Russians had multi-generational spy families working here in the US. "The Americans" takes place in the early 1980s -- the height of the Cold War era -- and really illustrates how tensions between the two super powers played out. On a more microcosm level, it also deals with the concept of individual versus state -- do your children belong to you or the government, in this case -- as the Russian State has made it clear the children of the illegals are to be cultivated to also serve as spies.

Posted by: elaine at March 28, 2015 01:27 PM (Y0Piu)

131 Weird Dave, this is quite good. Thank you.

(read everything twice because I was all what? what? all the way through. that's awesome. )

Posted by: bour3 at March 28, 2015 01:42 PM (5x3+2)

132 I have a gay friend. Once, while we were sitting in a restaurant, he looked at the nuclear family at the next table: well dressed, playing with cell phones, feeding kids, having fun . . . and mumbled how much he hated those people. He was jealous of their money, their kids, their happiness, their crass 'middle of America-ness'.

Liberals don't just hate the concept of family, they hate the actual, right in front of them real family.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at March 28, 2015 01:45 PM (VRc/p)

133 When the "community starts raising the kids" the Tragedy of the Commons is writ large.

Posted by: scottst at March 28, 2015 02:18 PM (Ltygl)

134 "He was jealous of their money, their kids, their happiness, their crass 'middle of America-ness'. '

When a friend of mine was pregnant and standing on a corner waiting to cross the street near Dupont Circle (a DC neighborhood where many gays live), she was called a "breeder" by the woman next to her. My friend was startled - she hadn't said a word to the very butch lesbian standing next to her. She glanced at the woman and told me she had never experienced someone looking at her with so much hate in their eyes. "I don't know what set her off," my friend said. "That's easy. You have a wedding ring on your finger and a baby on the way," I replied.

I don't think all gays are like that, but certainly some are. And leftists - gay or straight- want to destroy what they cannot have.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 28, 2015 03:12 PM (+XMAD)

135 this is quite true. if you read engles origin of the family, the marxist views on the nuclear family are pretty clear. the feminists - feminist thought being largely informed by communist ideology - refer to being a mother as "mother-slavery." simone de beauvoir actually stated that children should be raised by the state in government nurseries. women should be "free" from the burdens of motherhood so they are able to work. in orwell's 1984, sex was a crime because it allowed for the person to create a bond that was beyond control of the state. the individual would have an allegiance to an entity - in this case another human being - that was senior to the allegiance to the state. this was dangerous as all thought, all activities had to be controlled in order for big brother to maintain absolute unquestioned power. in contrast, huxley reduced sex to a mindless activity so as to minimize the bourgeois concept of marriage and the formation of monogamous relationships. engles posited that prostitutes were victims of the capitalist system, and marriage itself was a form of prostitution. so yes, the leftist-liberal view of the nuclear family and marriage is not very one that supports the family. the leftists have done a great job of destroying the family. single mother hood is becoming the norm, and more and more children are being raised by day care. more and more men are eschewing the concept of fatherhood and the commitment to marriage. instead, men are more and more inclined to pursue a teenaged boy fantasy of free love, NSA relationships, serial monogamy, and no responsibility. just look around us all and see what such selfishness hath wrought. a society that is in free fall.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 28, 2015 03:33 PM (2/oBD)

136 134
I don't think all gays are like that, but certainly some are. And leftists - gay or straight- want to destroy what they cannot have.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 28, 2015 03:12 PM (+XMAD)

I agree on both counts. I don't think all gays are like that, and leftists are all about destroying the existing order. They think they will be able to build a new order after they have destroyed the old, but destroying is much easier than building.

I think the number of gays in positions of power is wildly disproportionate to their overall numbers in the general population. I find that extremely disturbing. I can't put my finger on it, but that cannot be good for society. Something is very wrong here.

Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2015 03:41 PM (sdi6R)

137 RIckl

the intentions of some or even most leftists don't matter because the reality is that the policies that they support are destructive, detrimental, and basically anti-human when you get down to it. i am sure there are a lot of leftists that think the end result of their beliefs will actually be peace on earth, happiness for all, and the end of poverty, etc.. of course, the policies of the left will actually create the opposite effects as history has shown. more people have been murdered under communism then any other ideology in the history of the world.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 28, 2015 04:29 PM (2/oBD)

138 so much wasted breath on family and not a single mention that ghey marriage and letting gheys purchase uteruses are destroying the family more than anything else.

What else is new?

Progressives are here!

Posted by: fromabroad at March 28, 2015 04:31 PM (rnV3B)

139 Yes. The left has waged a campaign against the family for decades precisely because the kinship structure created by the natural union of a man and a woman is the best defense against an overambitious state. Same sex "marriage" is only the latest gambit. This seems obvious to me, but then, I was raised by Communists, who, by the way, always referred to themselves as "progressives" - not Communists.

Posted by: lhfry at March 31, 2015 07:47 AM (BLvRj)

140 Liberals hate families because the queers can't have one.

Posted by: KR at March 31, 2015 02:49 PM (S96oW)

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