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Dolce & Gabbana, Who Are Gay, In Fight With Elton John, Who Is Also Gay, About the Superiority of the Traditional Family Over Gay Families
Being a straight man, of course I was deeply interested in the Elton John/Dolce & Gabana tiff. Domenico Dolce had denigrated the practice of having IVF babies, and Elton John attacked him for "attacking my family" or whatever.
I didn't know this until today -- Dolce and Gabbana said a lot more than that. They actually offered -- and by the way, I have to stress that they're gay -- what would be called in America 2015 an Extreme Theocratic Rightwing Defense of the Traditional Family. Don't believe me? Fair enough, read this then.In the interview, translated by the Telegraph, the [gay] couple stated: "We oppose gay adoptions. The only family is the traditional one.... No chemical offsprings and rented uterus: Life has a natural flow, there are things that should not be changed." "You are born to a mother and a father -- or at least that's how it should be," Dolce said. "I call children of chemistry, synthetic children. Rented uterus, semen chosen from a catalog." Gabbana concurred, adding, "The family is not a fad. In it there is a supernatural sense of belonging."In case you care, I don't agree with their very anti-IVF position -- why shouldn't a couple that's having trouble conceiving use a bit of Science to help them along? It's not that I agree with them on their fairly hardcore traditional family defense so much that I'm surprised that anyone in the modern world has any opinions that aren't perfectly predicted by their Race/Sex/Sexual Preference identity politics profile. Maybe this is an Italian thing, where a fair number of people still believe in God and tradition and can't be easily cudgeled into offering up the PC sop; a few years ago the owner of Barilla pasta had a boycott campaign waged against him when, in response to a question of whether he'd feature gay families in his ads, he said no, Barilla is a family-oriented product and would continue showing pictures of traditional families. All sorts of odd things in this Telegraph article, including the revelation that Gabbana actually sought a surrogate mother for IVF fertilization. He says, though, that he'd have wanted a man (himself) and a woman to raise the child. Now, if you're thinking, "What a great taking off point for a National Conversation on Tradition and the Family, where we can all have an honest and respectful conversation about difficult matters," you lose, because of course Elton John and Ryan Murphy are already announcing their boycotts of D&G and encouraging all of Hollywood to do likewise. My prediction: D&G will be made to recant. Who are the selling to? Hollywood and very rich people, many of them Americans. What do those people think of Things Which Are Gay? Well, they're super-keen on Things Which Are Gay. And what do those people think about permitting other people to have opinions that differ from their own? Well, they're not keen on that at all. So they will do what they do, which is to use their Money and White Privilege to impose an absolute uniforming of expressed opinion.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: mallfly at March 17, 2015 03:14 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 17, 2015 03:14 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at March 17, 2015 03:14 PM (tu3iY)
This is the homosexual couple of flamboyant fruits who got mauled by the tiger, ya?
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 03:14 PM (U+iP0)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at March 17, 2015 03:15 PM (tu3iY)
Posted by: tu3031 at March 17, 2015 03:15 PM (PXU5j)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2015 03:15 PM (8ZskC)
Nope. Different set of flamboyant fruits.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 17, 2015 03:16 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: mallfly at March 17, 2015 03:16 PM (bJm7W)
Test tube abortions and the in-utero abortions that usually/always accompany IVF pregnancies.
Posted by: andycanuck at March 17, 2015 03:16 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Elton John at March 17, 2015 03:16 PM (8ZskC)
I kind of like Elton John, as an entertainer.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 17, 2015 03:16 PM (IDj42)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 17, 2015 03:16 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at March 17, 2015 03:16 PM (TPjwz)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 17, 2015 03:17 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: mallfly at March 17, 2015 03:17 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 17, 2015 03:17 PM (LA7Cm)
It isn't so much that I agree with them, as I simply admire the nerve to speak up in this day and age.
Posted by: Dianna at March 17, 2015 03:17 PM (DV/Ik)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 17, 2015 03:17 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at March 17, 2015 03:17 PM (KbNXw)
Posted by: David Feherty at March 17, 2015 03:17 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 17, 2015 03:17 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 17, 2015 03:18 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: mallfly at March 17, 2015 03:18 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 17, 2015 03:18 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Penfold at March 17, 2015 03:18 PM (Fbt5B)
Posted by: Clemenza at March 17, 2015 03:18 PM (8ZskC)
If they want us to leave them alone then they should leave us the Hell alone.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 17, 2015 03:18 PM (wlDny)
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 17, 2015 03:18 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 17, 2015 03:19 PM (evdj2)
You know just one big reason why fags, fruits, and freaks have no business adopting children and raisnig them?
Because their entire life is centered on their sexual perversion, or, orientation, if you like.
When I was growing up, mom and dad were focused on putting food on the table; making sure we went to school; and keeping us under a roof. Us kids weren't beaten over the head every single day with the importance of our parents' sex life.
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 03:19 PM (U+iP0)
But how can you not laugh at the cultural tone deafness where the GayKK are trying to enlist popular support for a boycott of Dulce and Gabbana?!?!?!?!
I swear.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 17, 2015 03:19 PM (eytER)
Posted by: tu3031 at March 17, 2015 03:19 PM (PXU5j)
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at March 17, 2015 03:19 PM (UWe7e)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at March 17, 2015 03:19 PM (KbNXw)
It must have been hard to hold the petri dish steady.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2015 03:19 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 17, 2015 03:20 PM (W5DcG)
It's not that they are using IVF bc they cant conceive...they are using it because sticking their dicks in vajayjays is abhorrent to them.
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 17, 2015 03:20 PM (iQIUe)
I hope they stand their ground.
Wish I could support them, but their clothing is out of my league.
Posted by: McY-not at March 17, 2015 03:20 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: eleven at March 17, 2015 03:20 PM (Ae7K+)
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
We've watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. Have either Dolce or Gabbanna seen attack ships on fire?
We think not.
Posted by: Synthetic Children at March 17, 2015 03:20 PM (IDj42)
Posted by: Puppy loving NCJ (trust me) at March 17, 2015 03:20 PM (TIuFZ)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:20 PM (7ObY1)
Further, this is swerving over into the "everything is now out and out insane" lane. You know, like the dude who "identifies" as a woman in the Planet Fitness locker room, the apparent fight over abortion rights for transgenders (I don't even), and the Houston Astros being competent at baseball.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 17, 2015 03:20 PM (659DL)
Gosh, not at all unlike the National Conversation on Race, then.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 17, 2015 03:20 PM (noWW6)
I'm not sure anyone in the story is making that argument, though.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (vgIRn)
re 23: I make an attempt at humor and you want to give the correct answer? sheesh.
Posted by: mallfly at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (bJm7W)
Stick out your tush
Hands on the hips
Give them a push
Now you find you're doing the French mistake!
Ooo-Laa!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Checkered Pasts Lead the Spring Styles at the Outrage Outlet! at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (S+el1)
It's like Sunni vs. Shia.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (LA7Cm)
Reminder.
I exist.
Posted by: alexthechick -Reading. Like a me. at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: phoenixgirl GOP fuck you & your #'s at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (X+nFp)
against him when, in response to a question of whether he'd feature gay
families in his ads, he said no, Barilla is a family-oriented product
and would continue showing pictures of traditional families.
And Barilla who stood their ground is still in business. More people/companies need to tell the SJW busy bodies to sod off
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (1Jaio)
I miss those days...
Now it's "the love that will not fcuking shut up."
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Vox dweebs in shiny suits at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (8CdUx)
Two dudes are not "a mother and father." Neither are two women. The traditional family has so many advantages (on average- exceptions are, by definition, exceptional) that it's pointless to try to catalog them all.
That said, I don't know that I'd go so far as to say that gay couples with children (by whatever means) are "not a family."
(But they're still not married)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (qd3Kw)
Fuck with me Elton and I'll slam ya.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (KbNXw)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 17, 2015 03:22 PM (evdj2)
Memo to D ampersand G: That's what you think? Okay. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. And P.S.: pay no attention to the fat gay guy behind the curtain, dudes.
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 17, 2015 03:22 PM (P8YHq)
Posted by: mallfly at March 17, 2015 03:22 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (qd3Kw)
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road is one of the greatest Albums of all time. I like it.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at March 17, 2015 03:22 PM (KbNXw)
Posted by: goon at March 17, 2015 03:23 PM (gNTQS)
Ok, wait, let me start over.
Two people who love each other very much and due to an accident of genetics are unable to have children. .
Ok, wait. Look, I just woke up from an after lunch nap and I'm not thinking clearly yet, ok? It's not my fault.
Posted by: Lessly H. at March 17, 2015 03:23 PM (Zr5Sm)
But this fight does have the potential to confuse everyone at some point. Who has the high ground on this one? By high ground, I mean who is gayer Dolce and Gabbana or Elton John?
Posted by: MTF at March 17, 2015 03:23 PM (LISuA)
There's always an exception to the rule.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2015 03:23 PM (tkaZN)
So.... those two gay folks are homophobic.... right??
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2015 03:23 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 17, 2015 03:24 PM (S+el1)
D&G's opinion in no way impinges on Elton John or the Glee guy. But they are going to have a slap fest anyway.
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 17, 2015 03:24 PM (iQIUe)
I dunno but we're gonna need a ruling on this.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 17, 2015 03:24 PM (LA7Cm)
I exist.
Posted by: alexthechick -Reading. Like a me. at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (mf5HN)
It's not the existence, it's the constant lurking that's unnerving.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Checkered Pasts Lead the Spring Styles at the Outrage Outlet! at March 17, 2015 03:24 PM (hLRSq)
There is a place in Seattle that has more gay businesses and homeowners than many other. It's called Capitol Hill. Anywayz, this has become a trendy place for all of the straight, rich kids to move in. Of course they're driving up the prices.
So of course this is a Terrible Thing. When the gay people pushed out the blue collar people in the 50s, that was a vibrant, excellent thing. When the gay people start getting pushed out, it's a loss of culture and whatnot.
So I was reading about this in our wonderful papers and I came across a lovely quote by a gay business owner. She said, "We moved here to get away from YOU PEOPLE."!!
Can you imagine the shrieks of horror if a straight white male business owner had said this in response to gay, black, Muslim or whatever other group moving in?
It would be DEFCON 7.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2015 03:24 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2015 03:24 PM (tkaZN)
One funny aspect to this (aside from the funny-on-its-face gay-vs-gay thing) is that Elton John has occasionally strayed from the gay orthodoxy himself.
The one I remember the most is when he played Rush's wedding. Apparently they're neighbors and friends, and when the Mauve Mafia got pissy about it, he basically told them to piss off.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2015 03:25 PM (SpnVI)
D&G
Elton lives in...Atlanta.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 17, 2015 03:25 PM (659DL)
Mr. Flasher you're under arrest for fighting. No sir, IDGAF if it's Saturday or not.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at March 17, 2015 03:25 PM (X+nFp)
Yeah, Bernie Taupin wrote 'em, but Sir Elton sang 'em.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:25 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: LizLem, eating all the potatoes today at March 17, 2015 03:25 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: blaster at March 17, 2015 03:26 PM (amMYN)
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 17, 2015 03:26 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: eleven at March 17, 2015 03:26 PM (Ae7K+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 17, 2015 03:26 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2015 03:26 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Checkered Pasts Lead the Spring Styles at the Outrage Outlet! at March 17, 2015 03:24 PM (hLRSq)
Oh pish posh. That's not me that's the Ravage so see how much better that is!
Slowly I turned . . . .
Posted by: alexthechick -Reading. Like a me. at March 17, 2015 03:26 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: FDR's Television at March 17, 2015 03:26 PM (ne2fm)
Posted by: eleven at March 17, 2015 03:26 PM (Ae7K+)
I have a friend who sperm donored her twin boys.
The whole thing bugs me. How selfish are you that you want kids for you that you would bring two boys into the world who don't have any dad at all. Not even a dad in prison, or who lives in Cali with his new wife. Not even a memory of a dad. These kids have nothing.That's pretty f*cking selfish, to do that to kids.
Posted by: The other coyote at March 17, 2015 03:27 PM (yK44T)
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 03:27 PM (U+iP0)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 17, 2015 03:27 PM (evdj2)
A couple using IFV to overcome an issue with pregnancy is vastly different than two gay men or women paying for eggs/sperm, renting a womb, etc. This is a complaint I've read from other children of gay couples: that they process treats the resulting children like a teacup chiuaha. They're an accessory used to play family.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 17, 2015 03:27 PM (OiH3z)
No biggy on the girls. They'll still learn how to cook and sew either way.
Posted by: The Okie from Muskogee at March 17, 2015 03:27 PM (Lk/fE)
you're welcome, peasants. Also, Elton married a German female who later divorced him because he wore his Lederhosen inside out ( with no undies )
Posted by: Vox dweebs in shiny suits at March 17, 2015 03:27 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: some guy at March 17, 2015 03:28 PM (q177U)
Posted by: ejo at March 17, 2015 03:28 PM (rsGj7)
I think I remember that. Her name was "Renata" something, iirc?
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:28 PM (7ObY1)
He's out making more money an hour than the entire annual payroll for the Cleveland Browns.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 03:28 PM (2Ojst)
You get used to it.
Posted by: A Really Small Poodle at March 17, 2015 03:28 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: blaster at March 17, 2015 03:29 PM (amMYN)
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 17, 2015 03:29 PM (MMC8r)
And who wouldn't (hubba hubba.)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:29 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: The other coyote at March 17, 2015 03:27 PM (yK44T)
----
I'll prolly catch shit for this.... but.....
I cant get past the ..."Im gay. Im not interested in the opposite sex. Genetics made me this way. But I have the itch to procreate anyway."
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2015 03:29 PM (NaV4z)
There was a guy in the 1930's that wanted perfect generations. Can't remember his name.
Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2015 03:29 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: Hillary at March 17, 2015 03:29 PM (ewj6N)
It's trip.
Nah, bro.
I exist.
YOU are a figment of my imagination.
Prove me wrong.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2015 03:29 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: LizLem, eating all the potatoes today at March 17, 2015 03:25 PM (yRwC
Sicilia
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2015 03:30 PM (IXrOn)
There was a guy in the 1930's that wanted perfect generations. Can't remember his name.Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2015 03:29 PM (/HX7u)Margaret Sanger.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 17, 2015 03:30 PM (OiH3z)
They're also persona non grata at a Bette Midler concert.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2015 03:30 PM (8ZskC)
Yes, Alex, we know thou are here'd.
And we love you.
But the comedy index on this one nigh on a perfect score.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 17, 2015 03:30 PM (659DL)
Elton John is older than Hillary Clinton. (Well, maybe not. I'm making an absurd exaggeration here.) It's like they're playing house or something. These kids shouldn't have to deal with a geriatric parent who's a fat washed-up rock star.
Posted by: AmishDude at March 17, 2015 03:30 PM (9Hlxe)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 17, 2015 03:30 PM (evdj2)
You're going to make AtC cry if you don't stop
Plus he has more talent than the entire team combined
Posted by: Puppy loving NCJ (trust me) at March 17, 2015 03:30 PM (TIuFZ)
Didn't capture the Psyche (wish I could remember the actual word used there) of a man and woman coming together, so to speak.
And from now on I'm...
Posted by: Looking for Murbella at March 17, 2015 03:30 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: Vox dweebs in shiny suits at March 17, 2015 03:31 PM (8CdUx)
This needs to happen more often - people shouldn't get to call themselves "tolerant" and lovers of "diversity" whilst demonizing everyone who dares to have an opinion that doesn't match theirs.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2015 03:31 PM (bdqzU)
Elton John's music is shit.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (qd3Kw)
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road is one of the greatest Albums of all time. I like it.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at March 17, 2015 03:22 PM (KbNXw)
Agreed. Great album.
Of course, EJ hasn't made a truly good album in about 40 years......
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2015 03:31 PM (SpnVI)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 17, 2015 03:31 PM (659DL)
boys into the world who don't have any dad at all. Not even a dad in
prison, or who lives in Cali with his new wife. Not even a memory of a
dad. These kids have nothing.That's pretty f*cking selfish, to do that
to kids.
That's OK. They'll meet him when she sues for custody support.
When she realizes how easy it is, I'll bet it happens.
Posted by: tu3031 at March 17, 2015 03:31 PM (PXU5j)
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 03:31 PM (U+iP0)
You are SO yesterday's news, girlfriend.
Posted by: Pugs at March 17, 2015 03:31 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at March 17, 2015 03:32 PM (TPjwz)
Because their entire life is centered on their sexual perversion, or, orientation, if you like.
...
outstanding, Soothsayer. Just outstanding.
Posted by: ace at March 17, 2015 03:32 PM (PA7DS)
Bring them to me and them humor and impress me with their funny dago ways.
Posted by: Barack Ovomit at March 17, 2015 03:32 PM (7RXcs)
anyone have a shamrock shake today?
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 03:32 PM (U+iP0)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 17, 2015 03:32 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: alexthechick -Reading. Like a me. at March 17, 2015 03:26 PM
You really don't want to do that....
Posted by: The Face-Sized Spider in AtC's Closet at March 17, 2015 03:32 PM (h4vJk)
Posted by: phoenixgirl GOP fuck you & your #'s at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (u8GsB)
Agreed, not news at all. Waaay back in 2006 Gabbana said that he was opposed to a kid growing up with two gay dads, could not have imagined his life without his mother. Thought then that kids need two genders. Did the same people boycott them then? Or did they just not care because they did not yet have kids of their own?
Either way these celebs are protesting too much. D&G will most likely survive this, I think. But we won't be seeing them on Hollywood tartlets for a while.
Posted by: LizLem, eating all the potatoes today at March 17, 2015 03:32 PM (yRwC8)
(I've been looking for a chance to be outraged but its hard since Italians are considered white.)
So IM OUTRAGED!
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 17, 2015 03:32 PM (JgQLj)
Posted by: Ghost O'Hallelujah at March 17, 2015 03:32 PM (7RXcs)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 17, 2015 03:32 PM (W5DcG)
http://tinyurl.com/l7zhf8w
Posted by: Naes at March 17, 2015 03:32 PM (YhayY)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:33 PM (7ObY1)
I think they are making a very pointed critique of gays who order children like handbags and not all people with fertility problems, or even all gays
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 03:33 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 03:33 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2015 03:33 PM (0LHZx)
Don't they realize the idiots harassing them have the attention span of worms? They'll be on to the next thing in a couple of minutes.
Tell them to ckuf off and then go about your business.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 17, 2015 03:33 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Bug Crusher at March 17, 2015 03:33 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 03:32 PM (U+iP0)
Does that have anything to do with Boobies?
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 17, 2015 03:34 PM (JgQLj)
before IVF. That way, it was a crap shoot as to who wd be the babby
daddy. I guess it is a gay thing.
Posted by: Bruce J.
There are some things I simply do not need to know.
This one is now unfortunately no longer on that list, because it can't be un-learned.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 17, 2015 03:34 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 03:34 PM (NUqwG)
Organic cottons and wools or the contents of the L.L. Bean catalog are the way to go.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 17, 2015 03:34 PM (Fh/kv)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 17, 2015 03:30 PM (9Hlxe)
LEAVE BRITNEY SPEARS ALONE!
Posted by: blaster at March 17, 2015 03:34 PM (amMYN)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (qd3Kw)
to each his own
Love Elton John.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2015 03:34 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: A Really Small Poodle at March 17, 2015 03:28 PM (8ZskC)
You are SO yesterday's news, girlfriend.
Posted by: Pugs at March 17, 2015 03:31 PM (vgIRn)
*sigh*
Posted by: Vietnamese Pot Bellied Pig at March 17, 2015 03:34 PM (SpnVI)
Posted by: ace at March 17, 2015 03:32 PM (PA7DS)
I sense trouble.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2015 03:34 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:34 PM (7ObY1)
They pay big money to cadres of lawyers who tell them to cave.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 17, 2015 03:35 PM (W5DcG)
Well, except for the gay gestapo, of course.
Posted by: ToursLepantoVienna at March 17, 2015 03:35 PM (UlI/7)
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 03:35 PM (U+iP0)
Meh, just go to the Olive Garden
That'll do it
Posted by: Puppy loving NCJ (trust me) at March 17, 2015 03:35 PM (TIuFZ)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 03:35 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 03:35 PM (2Ojst)
Margaret Sanger.
Posted by: andycanuck at March 17, 2015 03:35 PM (kivUY)
(I've been looking for a chance to be outraged but its hard since Italians are considered white.)
Not by white people.
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 17, 2015 03:35 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Crack Baby at March 17, 2015 03:35 PM (evdj2)
you are very stupid or you are pretending to be, they clearly stated that a baby needs a mother and a father, which is the crux of the matter, not In vitro fertilization per se.
I understand your first thought is to protect teh gheys because you want to sound so more enlightened than the rest, but do not sway a perfectly clear statement into something that it is not.
Secondly, many countries have laws that permit in vitro fertilization for a hetero couple but not for a man+man or woman+woman, which is the case of Italy.
But go on joining the homofascists into making this into a anti-IVF matter.
"My prediction: D&G will be made to recant. "
of course if 'conservatives' like you are friends, who needs enemies?
" Who are the selling to? Hollywood and very rich people, many of them Americans. What do those people think of Things Which Are Gay? Well, they're super-keen on Things Which Are Gay."
this has not been the case for a long time. I have a friends selling for a major fashion brand in London and the MAJORITY of buyers are not westerners. The big money comes from China, Russia and Middle east, who are not tremendously fond of teh gheys.
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 03:35 PM (rnV3B)
I can tell you all about Abercrombie & Fitch, but you'd better sit down first.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:36 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2015 03:29 PM (jhqr1)
What's your address. I'll come kick you in the junk.
Then we can discuss existential reality.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 17, 2015 03:36 PM (kff5f)
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road is one of the greatest Albums of all time.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet
On the road trip, you DO NOT get to touch the radio.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2015 03:36 PM (kdS6q)
You are SO yesterday's news, girlfriend.
Posted by: Pugs at March 17, 2015 03:31 PM (vgIRn)
*sigh*
Posted by: Vietnamese Pot Bellied Pig at March 17, 2015 03:34 PM (SpnVI)
SOON.
Posted by: Feral Ferrets, lurking in your crawlspace at March 17, 2015 03:36 PM (659DL)
Posted by: Vox dweebs in shiny suits at March 17, 2015 03:36 PM (8CdUx)
Why?
Because these guys made their money in Europe, with actual shit-tons of inherited, blue-blood wealth.
Maybe they think movie stars wearing their stuff is nothing but low-class bums trying to put on airs.
Wish they'd go the route of the flaming homo, "That bitch looks like a lumpy potato sack wearing our stuff."
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 17, 2015 03:36 PM (ZvKdv)
I would love to have one of these, if it was guaranteed to stay under 30 lbs.
They're smart, cuddly, lots of personality, etc.
But if it grows to a 500 lb behemoth, I'd have to send it to "the farm".
Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (jhqr1)
"I didn't expect this. I didn't expect this, coming from someone whom I
considered, and I stress 'considered', an intelligent person like Elton
John. I mean, you preach understanding, tolerance and then you attack
others? Only because someone has a different opinion? Is this a
democratic or enlightened way of thinking? This is ignorance, because he
ignores the fact that others might have a different opinion and that
theirs is as worthy of respect as his... It's an authoritiarian way of
seeing the world: agree with me or, if you don't, I'll attack you. I
even posted the word "Fascist!" on his Instagram."
Someone should write a book abut this kind of liberal fascism...
Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (bdqzU)
Posted by: Bruce Jenners Plastic Vag at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (A8mmh)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (j6e8f)
Not by white people.
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 17, 2015 03:35 PM (MMC8r)
Yeah, my wife is Irish so 'mixed marriage'.
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (JgQLj)
That'll do it
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Istn that the place with the neverending tossed salad???
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (/Ho8c)
You are SO yesterday's news, girlfriend.
Posted by: Pugs at March 17, 2015 03:31 PM (vgIRn)
*sigh*
Posted by: Vietnamese Pot Bellied Pig at March 17, 2015 03:34 PM (SpnVI)
SOON.
Posted by: Feral Ferrets, lurking in your crawlspace at March 17, 2015 03:36 PM (659DL)
Ahem.
Posted by: Richard Gere's Gerbil at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Barista at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (lG2E3)
Istn that the place with the neverending tossed salad???
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (NaV4z)
Man's Country.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (2Ojst)
you are very stupid or you are pretending to be, they clearly stated that a baby needs a mother and a father, which is the crux of the matter, not In vitro fertilization per se.
I understand your first thought is to protect teh gheys because you want to sound so more enlightened than the rest, but do not sway a perfectly clear statement into something that it is not.
Secondly, many countries have laws that permit in vitro fertilization for a hetero couple but not for a man+man or woman+woman, which is the case of Italy.
But go on joining the homofascists into making this into a anti-IVF matter.
"My prediction: D&G will be made to recant. "
of course if 'conservatives' like you are friends, who needs enemies?
" Who are the selling to? Hollywood and very rich people, many of them Americans. What do those people think of Things Which Are Gay? Well, they're super-keen on Things Which Are Gay."
this has not been the case for a long time. I have a friends selling for a major fashion brand in London and the MAJORITY of buyers are not westerners. The big money comes from China, Russia and Middle east, who are not tremendously fond of teh gheys.
...
Wonderful.
Posted by: ace at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (PA7DS)
Dolce and Gabbana make very pretty feminine clothes. They do not hate women and it shows."
Most fashion designers are gay... and pedophiles. So they get models that have the figures of 10 year old boys and make them look as unfeminine as humanly possible. That's the best explanation I've ever heard for why fashion designers do what they do.
Posted by: Naes at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (YhayY)
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (NUqwG)
The verb "gabbare" means to fool, swindle or cheat.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:34 PM (7ObY1)
that's what I meant, you go to the glory hole thinking it's a woman on the other side, only to find out.....
or so I've heard
Posted by: Ghost O'Hallelujah at March 17, 2015 03:38 PM (7RXcs)
Posted by: ace
I sense trouble.
Posted by: bonhomme
Captain, we are at Defcon Plaid. Shouldn't we raise it to Defcon Ludicrous?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2015 03:38 PM (tkaZN)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet
On the road trip, you DO NOT get to touch the radio.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2015 03:36 PM (kdS6q)
Tony DeFranco and the DeFranco Family. Heartbeat, It's a Lovebeat. On repeat.
Take that ISIS assholes.
Posted by: Feral Ferrets, lurking in your crawlspace at March 17, 2015 03:38 PM (659DL)
Posted by: Jay in Ames at March 17, 2015 03:38 PM (i2Lsf)
Posted by: Bruce Jenners Plastic Vag at March 17, 2015 03:38 PM (A8mmh)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2015 03:38 PM (DXzRD)
Now the ChiComs just kill those butt pirates and carpet munchers on site. Those gooks ain't so bad after all.
Posted by: Okie from Muskogee at March 17, 2015 03:38 PM (Lk/fE)
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (NUqwG)
I thought it was some kind of highway in Pennsylvania...
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 03:39 PM (2Ojst)
There was a guy in the 1930's that wanted perfect generations. Can't remember his name.
Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2015 03:29 PM (/HX7u)
Making "better people" has been a socialistic dream for well over a century. It was not Coolidge who spoke of sterilizing the mentally ill and genetically impure.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 17, 2015 03:39 PM (wt/Oq)
I have not yet personally asked this question of any members of the Gaystapo. I'll let you all know how it shakes out when I do.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 17, 2015 03:39 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2015 03:39 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2015 03:39 PM (DXzRD)
I had a problem with IVF when I learned that a lot of the "fertilized eggs" are discarded.
I still think of them as people, I can't help it.
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at March 17, 2015 03:39 PM (TPjwz)
Then we can discuss existential reality.
Pain is in the mind. You hurting me doesn't prove your existence to me. Maybe my mind decided to dole out some pain and created a scenario to play to me to give that pain a reason.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2015 03:39 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: BuddyPC at March 17, 2015 03:39 PM (jfUIE)
And THAT'S how you get Reavers.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (2Ojst)
Most fashion designers are gay... and pedophiles. So they get models that have the figures of 10 year old boys and make them look as unfeminine as humanly possible. That's the best explanation I've ever heard for why fashion designers do what they do.
Posted by: Naes at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (YhayY)
I always figured they liked to imagine themselves wearing the clothes they design, being the object of a man's desire, etc. That's why a lot of that high fashion shit is modeled by gals with basically zero tittage.
Posted by: Ghost O'Hallelujah at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (7RXcs)
Uh oh, someone is on his high horse.
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (U+iP0)
Still, I long for the days before Lawrence v. Texas.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (xQX/f)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 03:39 PM (2Ojst)
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Once you start repairs you never finish.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (JgQLj)
Then we can discuss existential reality.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 17, 2015 03:36 PM (kff5f)
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But.... on the way there.... you will have to get halfway there.... then another halfway.... then another half way ... then another halfway.
you will never get there.... there will always be a halfway there remaining.
Prove me wrong.
**looks for the jock with a cup.... just in case**
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: LizLem, eating all the potatoes today at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Allison Williams at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (LA7Cm)
no trouble, i'm just surprised at people who embarrass themselves without being troubled by embarrassment.
I just love this conceit straight men have that straight men, if I'm understanding soothsayer's claim correctly, aren't really interested in Pussy and Fucking at all, but we're all high-minded and about family and Jesus, whereas these gays are all about Making Their Dicks Feel Good.
Whatever. Either you're deluded, or you have a very low sex drive.
But here's the thing: I think about my Sexual Impulse a lot, and when I was younger, I thought about it a lot .
To be rude, Pussy is/was very high on my list of Important Things.
But if it's important for Soothsayer to pretend straight men just sit around clacking their rosemary beads and thinking about changing babies' diapers, whatever, follow your own bliss.
Posted by: ace at March 17, 2015 03:41 PM (PA7DS)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 03:41 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mark Twain at March 17, 2015 03:41 PM (ibvmu)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:37 PM (7ObY1)
And Long John Baldry
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 17, 2015 03:41 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2015 03:41 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: Aaron Shock at March 17, 2015 03:41 PM (nbGZj)
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (JgQLj)
I've seen the ad, and I can't tell if she's about to be raped or if she's just a whoring whore who whores. I guess that makes it art or something.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 03:41 PM (2Ojst)
And THAT'S how you get Reavers.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (2Ojst)
And I do not hold with that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 17, 2015 03:42 PM (wt/Oq)
Conversation (noun): exchange of ideas or words wherein the perpetually aggrieved party(s) protest, boycott the opposing party(s) until the opposing party gives in to the aggrieved point of view. Often results in legislation siding with the perpetually aggrieved party(s) and/ or fines, terminations, government- mandated commercials, paid for by the opposing party(s), or similar punitive action for wrong- thinking.
Posted by: Damiano at March 17, 2015 03:42 PM (AEQXb)
Endless breadsticks, baby. BREADSTICKS!
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:42 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: redgrains at March 17, 2015 03:42 PM (7GI9v)
Posted by: Joe Sopry at March 17, 2015 03:42 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Yip teh strategist! at March 17, 2015 03:42 PM (84SRe)
Posted by: LizLem, eating all the potatoes today at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (yRwC
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We need to send Obami to talk with these interesting Italians. he will get it sorted out.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 03:42 PM (NUqwG)
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Well, technically Taupin wrote all the lyrics, but yes. And as observed elsewhere, he's gone off the gay PC reservation several times. But here he's being a thug.
Posted by: Paul at March 17, 2015 03:42 PM (P1jJI)
Posted by: Riardo Kill at March 17, 2015 03:42 PM (LA7Cm)
Thanks, bitch!
Posted by: Dolce and Gabbana at March 17, 2015 03:42 PM (PXU5j)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 17, 2015 03:43 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 17, 2015 03:43 PM (kdS6q)
It's because they have too much thyme on their hands.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2015 03:43 PM (tkaZN)
Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2015 03:39 PM (jhqr1)
We can discuss that after I've kicked you in the junk.
Also, I, too, can count to potato.
Only someone as "smart" as a philosopher could come up with the asinine idea that reality isn't real.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 17, 2015 03:43 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:43 PM (7ObY1)
It's because they have too much thyme on their hands.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2015 03:43 PM (tkaZN)
A sage statement indeed.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 03:43 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: LASue at March 17, 2015 03:43 PM (8Ljms)
Posted by: Ghey Ghey Ghey Ghey at March 17, 2015 03:44 PM (nbGZj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2015 03:38 PM (DXzRD)
elton john, himself, said he was sad that his son's would never know a mother's love. he his husband can give them everything in this world but that....i don't know why he's upset that two ghey men have a different opinion than him....for God's sake he performed at RUSH'S WEDDING!!!!
Posted by: phoenixgirl GOP fuck you & your #'s at March 17, 2015 03:44 PM (u8GsB)
Octomom. You need about four or five human beings implanted for one to escape miscarriage.
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 17, 2015 03:44 PM (8rRE+)
Posted by: andycanuck at March 17, 2015 03:35 PM (kivUY)
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I thought Sanger was more in Woodrow Wilson's time.
Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2015 03:44 PM (/HX7u)
Wait... what, back up
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 03:44 PM (9221z)
Is Ace so naive to think that homosexuals don't have different priorities in life? Do you really think that homos and heteros only differ in the sex orientation?
Okay, so homosexual men are Just Like Me in every way except for the whole hate sex with women part. Got it.
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 03:44 PM (U+iP0)
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 03:44 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 03:45 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2015 03:45 PM (IXrOn)
Okay, so homosexual men are Just Like Me in every way except for the whole hate sex with women part. Got it.
...
you were the one who postulated that these Dirty Perverts never stop thinking about sex. Apparently straight people do not think about sex constantly, but only About Jesus.
Please, do go on.
Posted by: ace at March 17, 2015 03:45 PM (PA7DS)
That all said, I wish we could discuss marriage in terms of what government and society can do to encourage people to raise children in stable long term traditional families . If your girlfriend gets pregnant, yes, marry her and plan to be there for 18 years . Man up.
I don't care if Elton John marries his boy friend. Rather than argue about that lets figure what we can do to allow more kids to have a mom and a dad in a stable family for their entire childhood.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at March 17, 2015 03:45 PM (UWe7e)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyQ-tScuzwM
Whiskey in the Jar!
Has there ever been a rocker cooler than Phil Lynott?
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:45 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 03:43 PM (2Ojst)
You trying to curry favor?
Posted by: wrg500 at March 17, 2015 03:46 PM (S+el1)
Heh. I did.
The conversation was about genetic testing and whether sexuality was genetic or learned. The Gaystapo officer I was talking with was absolutely opposed to genetic research in this area.
I said "Why? It would settle a long-standing debate and if in fact homosexuality IS genetic then it's major support for your arguments."
He said "but then the fundies would be aborting homosexual babies."
I said "the fundies are against abortion and would carry the child to term, so what you're really worried about are people who support abortion, eg those who skew left. You know - your side of the aisle."
I got a blank stare in return. Then he called me an asshole.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 17, 2015 03:46 PM (eytER)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 17, 2015 03:46 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 03:46 PM (9221z)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2015 03:43 PM (tkaZN)
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You are so wise and sage.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2015 03:46 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: LizLem, eating all the potatoes today at March 17, 2015 03:40 PM (yRwC
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We need to send Obami to talk with these interesting Italians. he will get it sorted out.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 03:42 PM (NUqwG)
In think it went frm Italian through that Obama sign language guy and then into English so it really could have lost something.
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 17, 2015 03:47 PM (JgQLj)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 17, 2015 03:47 PM (evdj2)
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A couple that I know waited to have kids, and so had to go through the usual assisted stuff.
They had twins.
Then they had triplets.
They stopped at that point.
Posted by: junior at March 17, 2015 03:47 PM (UWFpX)
>>>In case you care, I don't agree with their very anti-IVF position -- why shouldn't a couple that's having trouble conceiving use a bit of Science to help them along?
At first I thought that's what they were saying, but if they're talking about rented uterus and semen from a catalog that doesn't sound like male/female couples who are having trouble conceiving....
Posted by: Lea at March 17, 2015 03:47 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 17, 2015 03:47 PM (wt/Oq)
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 03:47 PM (U+iP0)
Posted by: Jay in CDA at March 17, 2015 03:47 PM (xGt2P)
Posted by: Insomniac
Enough of these tangents!
Posted by: Basil at March 17, 2015 03:47 PM (Spluw)
I still think of them as people, I can't help it.
Yeah, my sister and her husband did IVF because of fertility issues. Now they have leftover fertilized eggs and they're not sure what to do. They don't want to have them destroyed, but if they were to donate them to other couples, this would essentially be the same as if my sis had carried the baby and then gave it up for adoption upon delivery.
Thanks to seeing a close relative find his birth mom and get to know her they know that these are not just some random clumps of cells. If successfully implanted and delivered, these will be siblings to their own kids. How would you feel if you knew there were children by you and your spouse out there in the world, who might actually want to meet you some day, meet their siblings, etc.?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2015 03:47 PM (bdqzU)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:48 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 03:48 PM (zOTsN)
before IVF.<<<
Saturday Night is Alright for Cock Fighting
Posted by: Fritz at March 17, 2015 03:48 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: soledad's ear-piece at March 17, 2015 03:48 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 17, 2015 03:46 PM (eytER)
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That means he likes you after all.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 03:48 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 17, 2015 03:48 PM (tr/8D)
Please, do go on.
Posted by: ace at March 17, 2015 03:45 PM (PA7DS)
I think constantly about sex with Jesus.
Posted by: Paco the Ghey Mexican at March 17, 2015 03:48 PM (AEQXb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 17, 2015 03:49 PM (tr/8D)
Posted by: LASue at March 17, 2015 03:49 PM (8Ljms)
Posted by: Jay in CDA at March 17, 2015 03:47 PM (xGt2P)
why not use it?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2015 03:49 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 17, 2015 03:46 PM (eytER)
That's known in Rhetoric as the coup de grace.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2015 03:49 PM (8ZskC)
Active Mormon here. I love sex. Love it.
I thought about it a lot as a teenager, some as a pre-teen too. I do my best to channel it into productive paths (like making my marriage awesome).
So as a straight, religious man, I kinda think that way, but not really. The kinda part is where I think that a lot of people would be better off if they channeled their sexual energy, rather than rutting like hogs, but I really don't think about it much.
I get that because the shoe doesn't fit it's not meant for me, btw.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2015 03:49 PM (jhqr1)
So, it's interesting. Fashion is fickle, so maybe bitches will stop wearing D&G. I wonder if it would matter.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 17, 2015 03:49 PM (EqqK1)
well do tell me what priorities you had in mind. Obviously you think straight men have something on their minds beyond the nasty transient pursuit of Filthy Sexual Pleasure that gays have; so tell me then, what are straight men thinking about?
I assumed it was Family and Following the Bible's Command to Be Fruitful and Multiply.
You know who really is all about family? Those millions of men arrested every year for soliciting prostitutes.
Posted by: ace at March 17, 2015 03:49 PM (PA7DS)
Are those rosary beads with extra spice? "
Had me wondering too. But, not Catholic, so how do I know.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 17, 2015 03:50 PM (LA7Cm)
dressed always in black
dressed in baby sized adult clothes including black lace and fur
photoshopped with blue eyes
disgusting...
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 17, 2015 03:50 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Authentic Republican at March 17, 2015 03:50 PM (JuGhc)
before IVF.
Saturday Night is Alright for Cock Fighting
Posted by: Fritz at March 17, 2015 03:48 PM (UzPAd)
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**types**
**deletes**
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2015 03:50 PM (NaV4z)
"To be rude, Pussy is/was very high on my list of Important Things."
-The Ace
Pussy remains high on my list of important things to do too after that Deliverance squeal like a pig sequence.
Posted by: Ned Beatty at March 17, 2015 03:50 PM (P330y)
Posted by: Jay in CDA at March 17, 2015 03:50 PM (xGt2P)
Are those rosary beads with extra spice?
...
let's pretend it was an errant auto-correction and not just me actually making that dumb error, please.
Posted by: ace at March 17, 2015 03:51 PM (PA7DS)
Posted by: phoenixgirl GOP fuck you & your #'s at March 17, 2015 03:51 PM (u8GsB)
Posted by: anonymous bloke at March 17, 2015 03:51 PM (zllbf)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 03:51 PM (zOTsN)
Dolce and Gabbana have done some very nice work - and there is a red dress I burn for.
Posted by: Dianna at March 17, 2015 03:51 PM (DV/Ik)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 17, 2015 03:51 PM (tr/8D)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 17, 2015 03:21 PM (qd3Kw)
Oden invites you for an evening of mead served by nude shield maidens.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 17, 2015 03:51 PM (FMbng)
Yep, we wouldn't want to parsley your phrasing too much.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 17, 2015 03:51 PM (eytER)
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed
I guess it's not really my day after all.....
Posted by: papist bograt at March 17, 2015 03:51 PM (Spluw)
I hear ya. I hate autocucumber.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:51 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: mallfly at March 17, 2015 03:51 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: The Diverse Hat at March 17, 2015 03:52 PM (0Ew3K)
Posted by: phoenixgirl GOP fuck you & your #'s at March 17, 2015 03:51 PM (u8GsB)
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You have to water rosemary bushes with Holly Water to get rosemary beads.....
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2015 03:52 PM (NaV4z)
Odd, I've always felt it was a odd sort of genetic arrogance. "It's not my child if it doesn't have my genes"
Inevitably someone will always say "but you have a kid! ELEVENTY!" to wit: we actually had a plan, if it wasn't working we were going to go straight to the adoption phase. Life's a crapshoot, not everyone gets what they want. We were lucky enough.
(And given that there are cases of egg donor, sperm donor and surrogate mother, the question then becomes: why not just adopt?)
I actually know a couple who are getting ready for kid #2. The "she" in that couple told my wife she was done "having kids" after this, but they were considering adoption. I salute their generosity.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) who misses sleep at March 17, 2015 03:52 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Rosemary at March 17, 2015 03:52 PM (8ZskC)
Has enough tyme passed that we can make these jokes?
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:52 PM (7ObY1)
Now, maybe the D and G guys don't care about that, but I would think anyone who does should be rooting for MORE births that are created by real Italian genes, not fewer.
Or let the muzzies have your country. Your choice.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2015 03:52 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Paddy O'Furniture at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: DaveA at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (DL2i+)
You know who really is all about family? Those millions of men arrested every year for soliciting prostitutes.
Posted by: ace at March 17, 2015 03:49 PM (PA7DS)
Right on, brother!
Posted by: larry the Craig at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: The Traditional Hat at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (0Ew3K)
Unfortunately, this is a serious moral and ethical issue that demands rational arguments. I myself am personally against IVF, but I see no reason to prohibit it. But I'm happy to engage in the discussion as to why I am against it.
Of course, I am against abortion and I see many reasons to prohibit that.
Posted by: SH at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (zllbf)
Posted by: mallfly at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (UWe7e)
Excuse me, but has anybody see my beads?
Posted by: Rosemary at March 17, 2015 03:52 PM (8ZskC)
quitcher clacking!!!
Posted by: phoenixgirl GOP fuck you & your #'s at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (u8GsB)
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lol, someone somewhere said something.
If you tend to believe that marriage was an institution crafted by women to ensure that they'll still have a male protector when they're old and ugly and to look after their kids, then you'd see the male crafted version as the harem in which you bought as many new brides as you can afford.
Perhaps marriage was a nice compromise between the two.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (EqqK1)
Posted by: ace
No problem. We thought that it was the work of a cob-logger.
Posted by: papist bograt at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (Spluw)
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The last thing I'd read on the topic (which was a while back; Bush 43 might have still been in office) was the results of a recent study in the US that seemed to confirm your point. The usual suspects through a fit, and called for an independent audit. The audit found that the study had some minor problems, but these problems were common to every other study (i.e. the ones that no one had complained about) published by the same journal that had originally published the study.
The article (over at NRO) talking about this mentioned that there was only one other study on the subject that wasn't hopelessly politicized, or used obviously bad data. That was a study that I think was done in Australia, that found the opposite. But that study only researched volunteers, and the article writer pointed out that the people most likely to voluntarily discuss their family situation were people who felt that things were going well. So that study might have had some accidental selection bias.
The study that found same sex families to be a problem for the kids drew its data by looking through public records, and did not rely on data being voluntarily provided by its subjects.
I don't know if there's been anything reliable and non-politicized (which is the real problem with these studies; too many people who are quite willing to "massage" the data to fit certain conclusions) since then. Given what I know about the two studies, I'm inclined to go with the one that found the children were worse off in families with same sex parents.
Posted by: junior at March 17, 2015 03:54 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: andycanuck at March 17, 2015 03:54 PM (kivUY)
Let's not go rubbing salt in any wounds just yet.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 17, 2015 03:54 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 17, 2015 03:54 PM (tr/8D)
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The proper response.
Posted by: SH at March 17, 2015 03:55 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Rosemary at March 17, 2015 03:52 PM (8ZskC)
If they were up your ass, you'd know it.
Unless you've simply gotten used to them. Then I recommend a larger size.
Posted by: 50 Shades of Khaki at March 17, 2015 03:55 PM (AEQXb)
We could at least tread gingerly. Wait for some tyme to pass. That would be the sage thing to do.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 17, 2015 03:55 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Rosemary at March 17, 2015 03:52 PM (8ZskC)
No, but I could probable find you some ben wu balls.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 17, 2015 03:55 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: lurkingestlurker at March 17, 2015 03:55 PM (k8xvx)
Is Ace so naive to think that homosexuals don't have different priorities in life? Do you really think that homos and heteros only differ in the sex orientation?
May I commend to you the opening lines of Scott Fitzgerald's "The Rich Boy":
"Begin with an individual, and before you know it you find that you have created a type; begin with a type, and you find that you have created--nothing. That is because we are all queer fish, queerer behind our faces and voices than we want any one to know or than we know ourselves. When I hear a man proclaiming himself an "average, honest, open fellow," I feel pretty sure that he has some definite and perhaps terrible abnormality which he has agreed to conceal--and his protestation of being average and honest and open is his way of reminding himself of his misprision.
There are no types, no plurals. There is a rich boy, and this is his and not his brothers' story."
You can substitute black or gay for rich. People are individuals.
And for myself, I think about sex nearly constantly and have made bad life choices on its behalf. I'm sure there are many gay men who just enjoy companionship and a cuddle. Your prejudices are not reality.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 17, 2015 03:55 PM (JtwS4)
Be thankful it didn't coincide with Rape Tuesday.
How late with that?
Posted by: DaveA at March 17, 2015 03:55 PM (DL2i+)
Didnt somebody post up some pix having "Hot Chicks of the IVF" in here a while back??
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2015 03:55 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (UWe7e)
Given there's more and more evidence its not genetic, it probably is more choice than people believe.
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 03:56 PM (9221z)
I do not have Rosemary beads
I shot the sheriff, but I did not shoot the deputy
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 03:56 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: DaveA at March 17, 2015 03:56 PM (DL2i+)
Give me a break, those kids mostly will never have a chance.
"Oh excuse us for a minute while daddy and daddy go in the other room to show how much our love by sodomizing each other".
Plus the kid will go around calling everyone "bitch".
Give me a break. You choose that lifestyle and you should choose to not bring children into it. They have no choice.
But keep corralling them and brainwashing them while telling them Global Warming and heterosexuals are "evil".
Posted by: Marcus T at March 17, 2015 03:56 PM (GGCsk)
Are those rosary beads with extra spice?
...
let's pretend it was an errant auto-correction and not just me actually making that dumb error, please.
Not trying to curry favor, but I just assumed it was.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2015 03:56 PM (tkaZN)
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perhaps, but who cares. The whole point of straight couples is the LifeTime TV for women conceit of the bland white guy beating his wife (the italian in the wife beater gets to be a little too close to the whole POC steroetype) who is defenseless. The gheys, OTH, are roughly the same size, regardless of their flavor.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 17, 2015 03:56 PM (EqqK1)
Posted by: The Traditional Hat at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (0Ew3K)
The DoJ will be over to arrest you for your hate crime forthwith.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) who misses sleep at March 17, 2015 03:56 PM (HDwDg)
I think that the constant reminder, from both inside and outside the home, that a kid has same sex parents is an unnecessary burden.
The whole dysfunctionality of that type of home puts those kids at an immediate disadvantage.
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 03:56 PM (U+iP0)
of course, did you notice a very predominant percentage of males in those ghey households. Count all the homo couples and their children, they are pretty much all males. Where are the ~50% females? they are thrown away.
Wouldn't you think that when someone that wealthy pays 200k to have a designed baby he cannot select also the gender?
Female embryos are simply thrown away.
But that's ok, since teh gheys wants to play dad and dad
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 03:57 PM (rnV3B)
No. Way.
http://cdn3.denofgeek.us/sites/denofgeekus/files/elton-john-24.jpg
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at March 17, 2015 03:57 PM (NJARn)
Posted by: Authentic Republican at March 17, 2015 03:57 PM (JuGhc)
Soothsayer did not say that teh gheys are all about sex - but rather that they are all about their sexual orientation. Which we all explicitly acknowledge when we call it the Gaystapo. And what this story is about. About how if you are gay, everything in your live must be Authentically Gay (TM). Like who is that gay MSNBC chick (pick one) that is all bent out of shape because her daughter likes boys?
Posted by: blaster at March 17, 2015 03:57 PM (amMYN)
Posted by: Asians Everywhere at March 17, 2015 03:57 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Genghis Cohen at March 17, 2015 03:57 PM (fLKzW)
Posted by: Marcus T at March 17, 2015 03:57 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 17, 2015 03:58 PM (evdj2)
>>>Memo to Elton John: It isn't necessary to go public to express your Outraged Outrage on every trivial damn thing anyone else says.
Seriously. This is the same guy who got outraged that Jennifer Hudson got voted off American Idol. Yes, I still remember that bullshit. Ryan Murphy can also suck it.
Posted by: Lea at March 17, 2015 03:58 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Genghis Cohen at March 17, 2015 03:57 PM (fLKzW)
No, no, sell them on Ebay to troglodyte rethuglicans.
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 03:58 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Richard Gere's Gerbil at March 17, 2015 03:58 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 17, 2015 03:59 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: The Traditional Hat at March 17, 2015 03:53 PM (0Ew3K)
The DoJ will be over to arrest you for your hate crime forthwith.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) who misses sleep at March 17, 2015 03:56 PM (HDwDg)
Crossed that line a long time ago, so why bother holding my tongue?
Posted by: The Traditional Hat at March 17, 2015 03:59 PM (0Ew3K)
Just a dude who created a twitter account called "Bitch Boy" where he posted pics of his naked ass. Which is, you know, a super heterosexual thing to do.
Jim Hoft @gatewaypundit 3m3 minutes ago
Indiana Democrat, AKA "Bitch Boy," Who Posted Photos of His Bare A$$ on Twitter, Returns to Work http://shar.es/1fxAdD via @gatewaypundit
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 17, 2015 03:59 PM (ZPrif)
I'm sure there are many gay men who just enjoy companionship and a cuddle. Your prejudices are not reality.
Gimme a fuckin break, fruitloops.
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 03:59 PM (U+iP0)
Millions? Really? Bureau of Justice Statistics has nationwide arrests for prostitution/commercialized vice at 62,700 in 2010. Less than one third were male.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 03:59 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2015 03:59 PM (bdqzU)
Dolce and Gabbana have done some very nice work - and there is a red dress I burn for.
Posted by: Dianna at March 17, 2015 03:51 PM (DV/Ik)
I saw it first! Don't wear to a party I'm at girlfriend, I'll scratch your eyes out!
Posted by: Bridgette Jenner at March 17, 2015 03:59 PM (JgQLj)
/he said in the Phil Hartman voice of Frank Sinatra...
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 04:00 PM (U+iP0)
... maybe I DO think about ridin' some fine mare bareback just as much as those long haired hippy type pinko fags drool over sticking their wedding tackle up each other's fart box. That ain't the point.
Point is ... I'm doing it the way God intended, and them people are an abomination. I bet you they even got a commie flag, tacked up on the wall inside of their garage.
Posted by: Okie from Muskogee at March 17, 2015 04:01 PM (Lk/fE)
The 'Catholic Warrior' is here to call everyone else anti-gay.
Posted by: Richard Gere's Gerbil at March 17, 2015 04:01 PM (MMC8r)
I'm sure there are many gay men who just enjoy companionship and a cuddle. Your prejudices are not reality"
The average gay man has in excess of 100+ partners in their usually abbreviated lifespans. They are a danger to themselves and society.
Posted by: Naes at March 17, 2015 04:01 PM (YhayY)
The New Hotness: Dolce and Gabanna
Posted by: Roy at March 17, 2015 04:01 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2015 03:59 PM (bdqzU)
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RRUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNN!!!!!! Shes gonna blow!!!!!
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2015 04:01 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2015 04:01 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 04:01 PM (zOTsN)
A contractor we used was gay...and right on the edge of being flamboyant. He and his long-term partner decided they wanted a family, and adopted brothers....three and five (I think). Mom was a crackhead from the ghetto. Contractor is American of Italian descent....boys are very black.
Wow.
They moved out of their nice liberal NY metro village a few months later and out to Western NJ, because the soccer moms weren't very welcoming. The hick, gun-toting rubes in the West were much more open.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2015 04:02 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: andycanuck at March 17, 2015 04:02 PM (kivUY)
That's a bit harsh on the kids though.
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 17, 2015 04:02 PM (8rRE+)
Posted by: Carol at March 17, 2015 04:02 PM (sj3Ax)
There are certain attitudes and beliefs which are hard wired into the Human Brain... that transcend all cultures.
One is the desire to perpetuate YOUR genes... to see they thrive.
Now... Humans have had 10's of thousands of years figuring out how to make the next generation thrive... and its ALWAYS come down to one Man, and at least one Woman, raising children (polygamy is the norm in much of the world throughout history).
Now, whether this 'plan' was created through evolution... and thus helps race survival.... or through God's Plan... key thing is it Works...
Who the hell are we to contraindicate either GOD, or thousands of years of Evolution?
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 17, 2015 04:02 PM (qh617)
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If you only knew...
Posted by: Strap-on Girl at March 17, 2015 04:02 PM (NUqwG)
Do these people even realize what they are saying?
Posted by: Marcus T at March 17, 2015 04:02 PM (GGCsk)
arent they tired?
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 04:01 PM (zOTsN)
They're viking receivers!
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 04:02 PM (9221z)
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.... and then you kicked ole Greenteeth right in the shin???
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2015 04:03 PM (NaV4z)
we are such good friends
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 04:03 PM (zOTsN)
I guess I'll go watch "ghey soccer" as these topics always go to depressing depths.
My gay friends are lawyers, engineers, artists, work at newspapers, etc. They are good, kind people, who just want to be left alone, and do not scream their sexuality from the rooftops.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 17, 2015 04:03 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 17, 2015 04:03 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 04:03 PM (U+iP0)
Posted by: eleven at March 17, 2015 04:03 PM (Ae7K+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 17, 2015 04:04 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Authentic Republican at March 17, 2015 04:04 PM (JuGhc)
Posted by: Carol at March 17, 2015 04:04 PM (sj3Ax)
Question for the Horde:
Anal with Kate Upton. Immoral because not as God intended, or yes please?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 17, 2015 04:04 PM (JtwS4)
I don't think the IDF will stand idly by like the Ferguson po po.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2015 04:04 PM (tkaZN)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 04:04 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 17, 2015 04:03 PM (evdj2)
When a gay dude shows up with a uterus having grown in his large intestine, then we'll talk.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 04:04 PM (2Ojst)
we are such good friends
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 04:03 PM (zOTsN)
Nobody will win outright. NOBODY has EVER won outright in the entire history of Israel
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2015 04:04 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 17, 2015 04:04 PM (Vm8WO)
A
contractor we used was gay...and right on the edge of being flamboyant.
He and his long-term partner decided they wanted a family, and adopted
brothers....three and five (I think). Mom was a crackhead from the
ghetto. Contractor is American of Italian descent....boys are very
black.
Wow.
They moved out of their nice liberal NY
metro village a few months later and out to Western NJ, because the
soccer moms weren't very welcoming. The hick, gun-toting rubes in the
West were much more open.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2015 04:02 PM (Zu3d9)
Wait a minute, how can this be? You mean taking these kids away from their crackhead bio parent, and giving them to loving, kind, and stable parents is NOT child abuse???
I was told kids are better off without having gay parents, so maybe we should have just euthanized them instead.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2015 04:05 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Authentic Republican at March 17, 2015 03:57 PM (JuGhc)
I haven't noticed Ace to be particularly anti-Christian. He seems to be more like me, anti religious in general with a particular bias against Muslims.
Posted by: jwest at March 17, 2015 04:05 PM (9ZZd+)
Posted by: genuine troll at March 17, 2015 04:05 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2015 04:02 PM (Zu3d9)
Sounds about right.
Posted by: LizLem, eating all the potatoes today at March 17, 2015 04:05 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: The Hobohemian wears Prada at March 17, 2015 04:05 PM (s/gWD)
I just put Fox on exit polls in Israel say they are neck
neck. Times of Israel wrote actual results won't be posted until
Thursday."
It's sort of irrelevant given that Israel is a hyper multi-party state. What matters is the final tallies for Right/Religious bloc (Likud, Bayit Yehudi, Israel Beitinu, Shas, UTJ, Yachad, Kulunu) vs. the Left/Arab Bloc. Bibi needs at least 61 MKs to form a coalition.
Posted by: Naes at March 17, 2015 04:05 PM (YhayY)
Question for the Horde:
Anal with Kate Upton. Immoral because not as God intended, or yes please?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 17, 2015 04:04 PM (JtwS4)
She's a dude?
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 04:05 PM (9221z)
Millions? Really? Bureau of Justice Statistics has nationwide arrests for prostitution/commercialized vice at 62,700 in 2010. Less than one third were male.
****
actually, one in five men are arrested for solicitation every 4 years, it's just that the undereporting is around 99.5%
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 17, 2015 04:05 PM (EqqK1)
Posted by: dantesed at March 17, 2015 04:05 PM (88xKn)
arent they tired?
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 04:01 PM (zOTsN)
Yeah, their asses are draggin'.
Boy that was a layup.
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 17, 2015 04:05 PM (JgQLj)
it will take a long time to figure out the results and for the horse wrangling to be over
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 04:05 PM (zOTsN)
I was thinkin' we could do it the old-fashioned way.
Lenina Huxley:
You mean... *fluid transfer*? Eww!
Posted by: Demolition Man at March 17, 2015 04:06 PM (AEQXb)
My opposition to gay marriage mostly stems from the fact that people are trying to force it upon religious institutions. (Indeed, I could give a rats ass about the civil institution at this point anyway)
But I really can't muster up enough energy to say "my word I can't believe you saved those kids from foster care, you shouldn't be allowed to do that."
I suspect most of the rest of us gun-toting rubes are the same. (Plus restricting adoption solely to married couples anyway is limiting. I actually know a few single people who adopted, they make good parents.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) who misses sleep at March 17, 2015 04:06 PM (HDwDg)
Are you all so stupid not to see and understand that the priority of homofascists is to silence any dissent? I could not care less about their fucking routine or if they are impotent.
People are being fired for writing on facebook that they are in favour of the traditional family. People have been fired for donating to pro family causes.
I thought I was on a conservative blog, but no, the most important topic is if HETEROS ARE FUCKING AS MUCH AS GHEYS!
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 04:06 PM (rnV3B)
Apparently, Israeli government and its parliamentary system is like so much Kosher sausage making and there's a lot of grinding and mixing to go...
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 17, 2015 04:06 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Jewelry Guy at March 17, 2015 04:06 PM (NUqwG)
Anal with Kate Upton. Immoral because not as God intended, or yes please?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 17, 2015 04:04 PM (JtwS4)
Before or after Verlander gets through?
Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2015 04:07 PM (TOk1P)
So that's what the kids are calling it these days.
Posted by: The Hobohemian wears Prada at March 17, 2015 04:05 PM (s/gWD)
Those are the ones my Hispanic students wear around their necks.
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 17, 2015 04:07 PM (JgQLj)
Posted by: Count de MacMonet at March 17, 2015 04:07 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Naes at March 17, 2015 04:05 PM (YhayY)
And just as important Herzog would need 61 also. And in the end neither might/probably will be able to get that. And after all their preregistrations, you still might see a coalition Gov with both in it. Which would be a screwed up situation, but par for the course
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2015 04:07 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 04:07 PM (zOTsN)
I love the argument because everyone who's "All About Science" have to make leaps of faith.
1. There exists a reality outside our conscience that is mechanistic.
2. The mechanistic reality has always followed the same rules regardless of time.
3. The mechanistic reality has always followed the same rules regardless of space.
I believe in God. Militant Atheists will claim they are better than me because they believe nothing without proof. The above three facts prove they are wrong. Everything they believe is built on un-provable assumptions.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2015 04:07 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 17, 2015 04:08 PM (j6e8f)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 17, 2015 04:08 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 17, 2015 04:08 PM (Q/1Jp)
Given there's more and more evidence its not genetic, it probably is more choice than people believe.
Except the more male offspring a woman has the greater the odds the next male offspring will be gay. Identical twins of a woman who has born many males? Very high odds -- the left-handed male overwhelmingly will be gay if there is gayness.
Something is going on in the womb.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 17, 2015 04:08 PM (xQX/f)
And yet somehow, from somewhere, a bunch of screamers have managed to very loudly materialize, and kick up a huge fuss. Funny, that.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 17, 2015 04:08 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 04:06 PM (rnV3B)
It's the Ambien talking.
Posted by: The Hobohemian wears Prada at March 17, 2015 04:09 PM (s/gWD)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2015 04:09 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Fritz at March 17, 2015 04:09 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 17, 2015 04:09 PM (8rRE+)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 17, 2015 04:09 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Dunkin' Donuts at March 17, 2015 04:09 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 04:06 PM (rnV3B)
Right? so lets have a joke:
'two Irish guys walked out of a bar."
"Hey, it can happen!"
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 17, 2015 04:10 PM (JgQLj)
Keep 1/2 stepping then you'll be dancing and the thread will be even gayer.
Posted by: DaveA at March 17, 2015 04:10 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 17, 2015 04:08 PM (ZPrif)
To early to say that. But it might not be to early to say Bibi did not lose.
It's an Israeli thing
And watching Israeli TV coverage -- it's like a big stakes game of 21 as they count how to get to 61
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2015 04:10 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 04:10 PM (U+iP0)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 17, 2015 04:08 PM (ZPrif)
No. The question is how many parties got how many seats and what coalition they will put together. This will probably take a while until everyone puts their card on the table.
This election really only settles how many seats each party wins.
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 17, 2015 04:11 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 17, 2015 04:11 PM (so+oy)
Posted by: Fritz at March 17, 2015 04:09 PM (UzPAd)
What's the space in cubic inches? Are we measuring interior to interior or exterior to exterior? Are utilities and taxes included?
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 04:11 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Sharkman at March 17, 2015 04:11 PM (Bk2tV)
Or, my favorite to date, Brendan Eich being abruptly fired from Mozilla because of his having held the same opinion on gay marriage in 2014 which Barack Obama had (ostensibly) held to up through the end of 2012.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 17, 2015 04:11 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: phoenixgirl GOP fuck you & your #'s at March 17, 2015 04:11 PM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 17, 2015 04:11 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 17, 2015 04:11 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 04:11 PM (NUqwG)
Given there's more and more evidence its not genetic, it probably is more choice than people believe.
Except the more male offspring a woman has the greater the odds the next male offspring will be gay. Identical twins of a woman who has born many males? Very high odds -- the left-handed male overwhelmingly will be gay if there is gayness.
Something is going on in the womb.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 17, 2015 04:08 PM (xQX/f)
Identical twin studies show that only 11%-14% of twin pairs are both gay. So yes there's something in the environment that affects them, but its not genetic as people with identical genes should have identical orientation.
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 04:12 PM (9221z)
'two Irish guys walked out of a bar."
"Hey, it can happen!"
That's a bullshit stereotype.
Wait.....what time is it?
Posted by: eleven at March 17, 2015 04:12 PM (Ae7K+)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 04:11 PM (2Ojst)
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Carpet??... or hardwoods??
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2015 04:12 PM (NaV4z)
Because IVF creates babies by the dozen, implants some of them, most of them die, even if they survive the doctors will "cull" the extras to leave one perfect child alive, and the rest will be left on ice, neither dead nor alive, indefinitely. IVF is a panoply of horrors that even Mengele wouldn't have been callous enough to dream up.
Posted by: joeclark77 at March 17, 2015 04:12 PM (IM8El)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2015 04:12 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: Hillary at March 17, 2015 03:29 PM (ewj6N)
Bingo.
Posted by: m at March 17, 2015 04:12 PM (WIUGG)
@ 367
I'll bite. Thought I was off this thread but got dragged back in.
As for that act with Kate Upton (or Charlotte McKinney), absolutely not, forthree reasons.
First, it is unnatural, and disgusting.If you need lots oflubricant to have sexual intercourse with a healthy women of childbearing age, and you end up with shit on your penis, you're doing it wrong.
Second, despite what porn and some women might say, most women don't enjoy anal. Quite the opposite, they find anal to be extremely painful and humiliating, and it can cause physical damage. Seriously, a man has a woman inhis arms, surrendered to you, and trusting him to take care of her inbedandthat man'sresponse is to cause her pain like that for his own gratification?
Third, and more selfishly, you deprive yourself of looking at her pretty face and elbows.
Posted by: lurkingestlurker at March 17, 2015 04:13 PM (k8xvx)
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 17, 2015 04:13 PM (MMC8r)
trying to force it upon religious institutions.....Plus restricting adoption solely to married couples anyway is limiting.
Sadly, same-sex marriage in MA resulted in Catholic Charities adoption agency, that was well known for successfully placing 'hard to place' kids because of their policy of only placing kids in traditional families.
Who did this hurt? The kids they could have helped.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/191kgwgh.asp
Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2015 04:13 PM (bdqzU)
I'm sure there are many gay men who just enjoy companionship and a cuddle. Your prejudices are not reality"
If they cuddle while firing people for refusing to applaud their cuddling, then there is a problem. If they cuddle while hiring a bunch of lawyers to get florists out of business, then there is a problem.
Too bad you are too fucking stupid to understand that.
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 04:13 PM (rnV3B)
It's because they have too much thyme on their hands.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2015 03:43 PM (tkaZN)
A sage statement indeed.
I couldn't find any dill when I got sent to the store Sunday - what a pickle.
Posted by: DaveA at March 17, 2015 04:13 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 17, 2015 04:13 PM (MMC8r)
Seems like it would be entry poling, but what do I know.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 04:14 PM (2Ojst)
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way too simplistic. Most human traits are not 100% genetically determined. But almost all human traits have a strong genetic component.
Posted by: Dunkin' Donuts at March 17, 2015 04:14 PM (ZPrif)
http://www.dolcegabbana.com/
Toreador pants are back for men! Fabulous!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 17, 2015 04:14 PM (so+oy)
Question for the Horde:
Anal with Kate Upton. Immoral because not as God intended, or yes please?
I'm interested in the female moron answer.
Posted by: wooga at March 17, 2015 04:14 PM (OoVgj)
Now look here boys, I ain't no prude. I like to watch a couple pretty girls gettin' after it as much as the next man ... but dudes ? Come on, that ain't right.
Posted by: Okie from Muskogee at March 17, 2015 04:14 PM (Lk/fE)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 17, 2015 04:15 PM (evdj2)
So, we can put you down for a no.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 17, 2015 04:15 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 17, 2015 04:14 PM (so+oy)
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Bull shit.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 04:15 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at March 17, 2015 04:16 PM (Fh/kv)
Posted by: JoeF. at March 17, 2015 04:16 PM (F9lsD)
I was told kids are better off without having gay parents, so maybe we should have just euthanized them instead."
wait a minute, how those countries where gheys cannot adopt survive with their overflowing orphanages? where do they throw all those children?
well maybe, maybe, not all countries are full of crackheads with 16 toddlers from 23 different man, and the very few true orphans are usually adopted but DRUM ROLL, traditional families with or without children that GASP, sometimes even go to church!!!
See? civilization can survive even without ghey angels.
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 04:16 PM (rnV3B)
http://tomandlorenzo.com/2015/03/dolcegabbana-fall-2015-collection/
And here are images from last spring, and the cute Sicilian nonnas that were part of their ad campaign.
http://tomandlorenzo.com/2015/01/dolcegabbana-spring-2015-ad-campaign/
Posted by: LizLem, eating all the potatoes today at March 17, 2015 04:16 PM (yRwC8)
god didn't put those boobs on kate upton because he wanted you to have anal with her
Posted by: kj at March 17, 2015 04:17 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2015 04:17 PM (/tNwW)
Posted by: bonhomme at March 17, 2015 04:07 PM (jhqr1)
Atheists may believe they are better than you, but that certainly isn't my position. There very well may be a God. There are a number of things hard to explain by coincidence.
It's religion that I oppose. Chanting cults of mindless followers looking for answers they will never find. The only thing religions know for sure is that you should give them your money and kill everyone who doesn't believe as they do.
Posted by: jwest at March 17, 2015 04:17 PM (9ZZd+)
Posted by: lurkingestlurker at March 17, 2015 04:13 PM (k8xvx)
Only if you're doing it right.
But seriously, any couple that decides they MUST only do it God's way, should only do it God's way. Whatever that happens to be.
But any couple who decides they don't mind a little variety? Will find all sorts of interesting and different ways of doing it. Seems to me if you have two human (adult) bodies slipping and sliding around each other, it's essentially impossible for it to be unnatural.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2015 04:17 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: jwest at March 17, 2015 04:17 PM (9ZZd+)
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Nice to see your enlightenment freed you from all that icky prejudice....
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2015 04:18 PM (NaV4z)
if only hitler were able to write decent melodies while sending jews to die, history could have been rewritten.
It is appalling how being star struck does not happen only to Bieber fans. So your favourite idol is a fascist, but he is so dreaaaaamy with his songs.
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 04:19 PM (rnV3B)
Posted by: Dunkin' Donuts at March 17, 2015 04:14 PM (ZPrif)
True, but the homosexual movement claims that their characteristics are just like other genetically determined characteristics like eye or skin color. That's not the case, especially as people can change orientation over the course of their lives. Which suggests that its more of a personality or mental trait than genetic.
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 04:19 PM (9221z)
Posted by: JoeF. at March 17, 2015 04:19 PM (F9lsD)
What time is it in Israel, and when do the polls close?
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 04:19 PM (U+iP0)
Posted by: kj at March 17, 2015 04:17 PM (lKyWE)
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Preach it, brutha.
Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2015 04:19 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2015 04:17 PM (TOk1P)
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It can certainly be unnatural as in abnormal.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 04:19 PM (NUqwG)
And a vote for Nuru Massages.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 17, 2015 04:20 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: lurkingestlurker at March 17, 2015 04:13 PM (k8xvx)
See. This is how religion fucks up your mind.
Posted by: jwest at March 17, 2015 04:21 PM (9ZZd+)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 17, 2015 03:55 PM (JtwS4)
__________
Helloooooo!
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 17, 2015 04:21 PM (8TdcF)
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One of the reasons why the US adoption system is so screwed up is because a lot of the social workers involved with it are adamant that minority kids only be adopted by minorities of the same race. So if you have white parents looking to adopt, and a surplus of black kids needing to be adopted, then the social workers will fight tooth and nail to see that those kids remain in the system.
I wouldn't be surprised if the neighbors felt the same way that those social workers do.
Posted by: junior at March 17, 2015 04:21 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 17, 2015 04:21 PM (JtwS4)
It's like Reservoir Dogs, meets a Robert Palmer video meets Don Quixote (the ballet) meets Sunday in Palermo.
Get me Rob Reiner on the phone, stat!
Posted by: The Hobohemian wears Prada at March 17, 2015 04:21 PM (s/gWD)
What time is it in Israel, and when do the polls close?
Posted by: Soothsayer's imaginary twitter feed at March 17, 2015 04:19 PM (U+iP0)
I believe they closed 4 PM EST.
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 04:22 PM (9221z)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2015 04:22 PM (tkaZN)
Posted by: JoeF. at March 17, 2015 04:22 PM (F9lsD)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 17, 2015 04:22 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 04:16 PM (rnV3B)
But if "ghey angels" exist, you cannot call what you have a civilization if you are trying to live without them.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2015 04:22 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 04:19 PM (9221z)
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It may also be that it is not the orientation that is changed but the behavior. After all, there are many gay men who are married and have children. They are gay by orientation but not (most of the time) by behavior.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 04:23 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2015 04:17 PM (TOk1P)
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I have to agree with you because the Bible teaches this. Not anal sex specifially, but it says that what goes on between a husband and a wife in the bedroom should not be condemned or interrupted by anyone.
Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2015 04:24 PM (/HX7u)
Posted by: jwest at March 17, 2015 04:17 PM (9ZZd+)
That's why I love Sunday Mass. The carnage. gees.
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 17, 2015 04:24 PM (JgQLj)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2015 04:24 PM (tkaZN)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2015 04:22 PM (TOk1P)
Very nice.
Posted by: The Hobohemian wears Prada at March 17, 2015 04:24 PM (s/gWD)
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 04:23 PM (NUqwG)
Then there's the situationally gay (i.e., prison), who wouldn't be caught dead with another man outside of lockup.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 04:24 PM (2Ojst)
Lol, I wonder how many are goggling the term.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 17, 2015 04:24 PM (S+el1)
You've been to my house, I ain't even got a garage!
Posted by: Ducey and Madonna at March 17, 2015 04:25 PM (WDySP)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 17, 2015 04:24 PM (S+el1)
They'll be googling the term, and goggling the video.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 04:25 PM (2Ojst)
If two dads are better than one, then why aren't three better than two.
Heck, why not two moms and a dad?
http://tinyurl.com/o4r3rv2
Note that the trio are not one husband with two wives, but three people married to each other.
Posted by: The Duo-Normative Hat at March 17, 2015 04:25 PM (0Ew3K)
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 04:23 PM (NUqwG)
Actually since the biological default is heterosexual, they're actually deviant heteros rather than deviant homos regardless of what they believe.
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 04:25 PM (9221z)
it's essentially impossible for it to be unnatural.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2015 04:17 PM (TOk1P)
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It can certainly be unnatural as in abnormal.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 04:19 PM (NUqwG)
And? There are many things in this universe that are abnormal. Such as planets with life. But it is, by definition, natural.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2015 04:25 PM (TOk1P)
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Mommmmm!!!! I gotta pee.
Daaaddddd!!!!! I had a bad dream... can I sleep with you guys.
Wooof ....... Wooooof!!!!!
Posted by: coitus interruptus at March 17, 2015 04:26 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2015 04:24 PM (/HX7u)
Which brings up the important question:
Just what the fuck is Gomorrary?
Posted by: The Hobohemian wears Prada at March 17, 2015 04:26 PM (s/gWD)
Posted by: Count de MacMonet at March 17, 2015 04:26 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 17, 2015 04:27 PM (xQX/f)
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 04:27 PM (9221z)
Wasn't it a monster from Godzilla?
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 04:27 PM (9221z)
Isn't it a WWII song? It's a Long Way to Gomorrary?
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 04:28 PM (2Ojst)
to have a cup of shut the fuck up?
the tactic is the same, demean the oppose in the lowest possible form, twisting the topic from sons of gheys to IVF.
All the neurosurgeons out there (ricki martin, Victoria beckam, cuntney love) fell for it line, hook and sinker, and talked about IVF. If you had talked about children purchased by 2 gheys and discarded by a mother, you would have had a completely different result.
Gaystapo at its finest.
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 04:28 PM (rnV3B)
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 04:23 PM (NUqwG)
And this is interesting to me. You have always heard that many gay people were married and had kids. Usually this is chalked up to them being forced into traditional gender norms.
What if it isn't? What if they were obeying the back brain need to procreate, then when their genetic continuance was assured, they went with their more favored sexual attraction?
Not a question that is or ever will be answered, but I am always interested to see how people's minds work and how much of what we do is very much subconsciously.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 17, 2015 04:28 PM (wt/Oq)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2015 04:25 PM (TOk1P)
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I was merely pointing out that there are multiple meanings for unnatural. Hence something can be both unnatural and natural.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 04:28 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: kj at March 17, 2015 04:29 PM (lKyWE)
(And given that there are cases of egg donor, sperm donor and surrogate mother, the question then becomes: why not just adopt?)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) who misses sleep at March 17, 2015 03:52 PM (HDwDg)
I agree, except that's there's a shortage of healthy babies to adopt in the US. You either go foreign, or you enter a contest with a bunch of other couples and hope you get picked. The couple I know who did both didn't think they'd get lucky twice, so they went to Russia for the second kid, who I think is going to turn out fine, but has had some developmental problems due to the time in the orphanage.
Posted by: stace at March 17, 2015 04:29 PM (ImzkZ)
WRONG! It was a WWI song that the WW2 U-Boat captains played to inspire their sailors. Didn't you watch Dat Boat?
Posted by: Count de MacMonet at March 17, 2015 04:30 PM (JO9+V)
Isn't it a WWII song? It's a Long Way to Gomorrary?
WWI"
Nothing to do in the trenches other than bugger like Oscar Wilde. We'll give the Jerry what for!
Posted by: Naes at March 17, 2015 04:30 PM (YhayY)
Posted by: Count de MacMonet at March 17, 2015 04:30 PM (JO9+V)
Nope. I was too busy watching Dat Ass.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 17, 2015 04:31 PM (2Ojst)
Not a question that is or ever will be answered, but I am always interested to see how people's minds work and how much of what we do is very much subconsciously.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 17, 2015 04:28 PM (wt/Oq)
I find this fascinating too. And one of the scientists who was reviewed all the longitudinal twin studies out of Europe felt that human sexuality was slightly more fluid than thought, until puberty hit in, with "undecideds" usually falling into the biological norm rather than not.
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2015 04:31 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Okie from Muskogee at March 17, 2015 04:32 PM (Lk/fE)
I think 99.99999% of civilization has SURVIVED perfectly WITHOUT GHEY MARRIAGE, GHEY+GHEY PARENTING just fine. Why in 2015 is should be any different?
or you think to invent the wheel we need a ghey mathematician?
Are you like the muslims that say that every scientific discovery has been made by muslims?
are all important things in life made by homosexuals?
Can you point out any negative point of NOT having special rights for gheys? I mean the roman empire had its share of homos but they did not cave in to this lunacy of marriage. They probably thought it was ridiculous, 2000 years ago.
Why now it is celebrated?
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 04:33 PM (rnV3B)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 17, 2015 04:34 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 04:33 PM (rnV3B)
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It seems to be associated with modern Christian (or post-Christian) culture.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 04:36 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: kj at March 17, 2015 04:37 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Naes at March 17, 2015 04:01 PM (YhayY)
I dunno. Straight and fairly good-looking when I was young,I'd hesitate to name the number of partners I had while coming of age in the 70's and 80's, and we're just talking about run-of-the-mill heterosexual sex here. I didn't hang out in kinky circles or date strippers or live the swinger lifestyle, but that number is well over the 100+ you claim constitutes a danger to man and society. Like many of my friends, I just dated a lot during an era where casual sex was the custom, more or less. At least it was with me.
I'm frankly embarrassed about it now, more than a little remorseful because I'm a mature adult with faith,and wouldn't give the exact number to anyone--and who would ask such a thing, anyway? However, the one thing I know I can't do is stand on some high moral ground and throw stones at you weak, puny mortals below.
Posted by: troyriser at March 17, 2015 04:40 PM (7F9i5)
Posted by: Okie from Muskogee at March 17, 2015 04:32 PM (Lk/fE)
Come to my window. *closes window on Okie's fingers*
Posted by: Mellisa Etheridge at March 17, 2015 04:41 PM (xQX/f)
many non christian countries do not cave in to gheys demands (japan comes to mind).
Many african tribes or amazonian tribes know nothing of homosexuality (because it is simply not productive to them) and they are not christians.
A multitude of people that do not have religious affiliations want nothing to do with gheys and dread the though of a ghey son (in Russia they are not all christian orthodox, many are still atheists).
You do not need to be religious to think that they are greatly overstaying their welcome.
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 04:41 PM (rnV3B)
Posted by: Count de MacMonet at March 17, 2015 04:42 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: kj at March 17, 2015 04:43 PM (lKyWE)
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Does that mean you get the platinum membership?
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 04:44 PM (NUqwG)
What? I didn't read the entire thread so what is this post in response to?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2015 04:44 PM (DXzRD)
Did you bother to read those widely available medical documents that states with no doubt that ghey anal sex is multiple times more risky for venereal diseases than straight sex?
Who do you think we need to thank for the AIDS epidemic that spread out from San francisco's bathhouses?
A woman can whore around, but she will never match a ghey man. Plus google 'Bug chaser'. A lot of ghey man actively searched to be infected to be part of the tribe.
Did you want to be infected by some disease while you were screwing around in the 70s?
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 04:45 PM (rnV3B)
What? I didn't read the entire thread so what is this post in response to?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2015 04:44 PM (DXzRD)
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See Ace comment at 206 and Soothsayer comment at 31
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 04:50 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 04:45 PM (rnV3B)
Er, why no, I didn't want to catch a horrible disease, thanks. I was thinking more of the social, culturaland moral aspects when I posted the comment.
Posted by: troyriser at March 17, 2015 04:51 PM (7F9i5)
Robert Oscar Lopez
http://tinyurl.com/oxx4x8z
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2015 04:51 PM (DXzRD)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2015 04:53 PM (DXzRD)
Posted by: RioBravo at March 17, 2015 04:57 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 17, 2015 03:55 PM (JtwS4)
Said every man on the fukn planet.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at March 17, 2015 04:58 PM (KbNXw)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2015 04:53 PM (DXzRD)
That's a classic auto spell.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at March 17, 2015 04:59 PM (KbNXw)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2015 04:59 PM (DXzRD)
http://tinyurl.com/moyst62
educate yourself on how gheys are happy to get some aids.
Now tell me how this relate to normal sexual hetero activity. If hetero males had been doing this, 90% of worldwide population would be HIV positive.
All the old and saggy homos like Elton should maybe condemn this type of behavior of his tribe instead of lashing out on supporters of the traditional family.
But who cares? even his detractors are shit scared of the homonazi reaction. Don't know about you, but I will not submit, at work I spread this news of the homofascist all over the place. Believe it or not, in the private conversations, the majority does not like homosexuals and the most prevalent feeling towards them is pity. Plus the smart ones are understanding that JE SUIS CHARLIE is not valid in all cases and some people are starting to feel worried of this speech censorship.
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 05:00 PM (rnV3B)
Well, that was very creative. :^) Autocorrect is obviously not RC.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2015 05:00 PM (DXzRD)
Yes, it does give one a sense of satisfaction to see how many bodies you've racked up after the last chorus of "Amazing Grace,"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2015 05:18 PM (DXzRD)
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That's the point - the "trouble" with homosexuals couples is that, naturally, they can't reproduce. They claim there is nothing wrong with homosexuality? Then fine, if there's nothing wrong, then there's nothing to fix. You are "normal" just the way you are. And that means no conception.
IVF works to restore a status quo that SHOULD exist - by nature, a hetero couple SHOULD be able to conceive, but can't due to a medical problem or defect. They acknowledge that problem and want to fix it. By nature, a homosexual couple SHOULDN'T, and when they seek IVF, they aren't admitting to a problem. That is what makes it "designer" conception. It's a Frankenfetus.
Posted by: Saltyron at March 17, 2015 05:48 PM (i6shs)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2015 05:48 PM (UwPGL)
ssshhh, you shouldn't throw so many actual and logical facts at ace, while he is playing the prince in shiny armor saving the ghey damsel in distress. His friends at cocktail parties in upscale manhattan are falling over themselves for the gheys and he should show the same amount of celebration while pretending to be a conservative.
He was about to succeed by mentioning the IVF matter over the mother-father thing and now you are ruining his weekly cocktail party.
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 05:57 PM (rnV3B)
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That's why the whole "origin of homosexuality" needed to be made "straight" (no pun intended) BEFORE legal protections were granted. "Homosexuality is a born trait ala race and gender, is not a choice, and thus can't change? Then here's your 14th Amendment Equal Protections! Wait, now you want to raise your hetero kids to be gay because it's a choice?! Well, OK, no problem, even though Equal protection doesn't protect behavior we'll allow it!"
DG just removed the mask that gays have been hiding behind for a lot of years, and revealed the deception that a lot of people swallowed. Ace ain't quite ready to accept he was deceived yet, he's still in SJW White Knight mode.
Posted by: Saltyron at March 17, 2015 06:04 PM (i6shs)
to be frank, only USA have 14th amendment, but the european gheystapo made it happen in other countries in europe anyway, but on wikipedia (dont remember the page) there was a study made in sweden and when they asked swedish people the connection between 'born this way' and acceptance the people responded overwhelmingly that if is by birth they were more likely to accept it (80%), while if it was a choice they were not that much likely to accept it and grant marriage etc (20%).
Therefore here is your diktat created. Homosexuality must be by birth because settled science.
What bothers me is how easy is to manipulate the people's mind just with some emotionalism. At this point, you can pretty much convince people of anything, you just need academia, some doctors, the whole media and hollywood. Goebbles would be proud.
How hetero women and mothers can stay still when 2 faggots say they are exactly like mom+dad (hinting that women are redundant, if it wasn't for their rented uteruses) just boggles my mind. So many centuries to fight to be considered more than cattle and now reduced back to breeding cattle.
And all the people here complaining about the feminazis, really nothing to comment on 2 lesbians proudly raising a child without a father around? Really all OK with it? Granted, a woman, has all equipment to produce a child and can find a one night stand, but can we at least avoid what is avoidable?
Posted by: fromabroad at March 17, 2015 06:17 PM (rnV3B)
Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 17, 2015 07:15 PM (2/oBD)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitaran, Wis momee at March 17, 2015 07:53 PM (znRvO)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 17, 2015 09:06 PM (Y92Nd)
That she felt no worry whatsoever about burning bridges in an incredibly personality-oriented industry tells me everything I need to know about how this will end. The only question is how long it will take before DG utterly capitulates.
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The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)