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Mostly Peaceful Protesters Shoot Two Police Officers, One in the Shoulder, One Peacefully in the Face
I'm thinking we just wall this area off and let them "police themselves." Number of questions Obama and Hillary Clinton will face about this incident: Zero See, this incident is embarrassing to them and a wedge issue, splitting, as it does, their radical base from the liberal moderates they still need, so the media will make sure it never becomes a difficult issue for them.Two police officers in Ferguson, Missouri, were shot and wounded in what officials called an ambush early on Thursday, the latest spasm of violence arising from months of tension between African-Americans and the city's mostly white police force. The officers were treated and released from hospital, St Louis County Police said. Police Chief Jon Belmar earlier said a manhunt was under way for a suspect or suspects. A 41-year-old officer from the St. Louis County Police was struck in the shoulder and a 32-year-old officer from the nearby Webster Groves Police Department had a bullet lodged near his ear after it passed through his cheek, Belmar said. "This is really an ambush, is what it is," Belmar said. "You can't see it coming. You don't understand that it's going to happen."The left is having spasms that people on the right are suggesting that these shootings just might be the result of a viciously false narrative peddled by the radical left, the President, and their fellow travelers in the media. In every other shooting, the left goes looking for the toxic politics that animated the shooting, and tries to connect it with a politician's words; here, they're aghast that anyone would be so gauche to do that.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: wooga at March 12, 2015 12:28 PM (OoVgj)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at March 12, 2015 12:29 PM (TPjwz)
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Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 12, 2015 12:31 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2015 12:32 PM (DXzRD)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 12, 2015 12:32 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Moar Ammo! at March 12, 2015 12:32 PM (HstNY)
Um, neither of these cops are Ferguson PD, so how is that even relevant?
Posted by: speedster1 on the (new) ipad at March 12, 2015 12:34 PM (1brdf)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at March 12, 2015 12:34 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: brak at March 12, 2015 12:35 PM (Tj+s6)
If we had anyone but Holder, who is a cheerleader, all these people would be in jail.
The stupid ass governor, a democrat, is a sleep.
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 12, 2015 12:35 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: UGAdawg at March 12, 2015 12:35 PM (aO1W9)
The photo of the policemen, shortly after the event, is just sad. They look angry and freaked out at the same time. It makes me very angry that there is war within our own country against the men and women who protect us...and all because our fekless dookie-headed prancercising preznit and his DoJ encourage this. They love this. Love it. And I hope the flatworm wins.
Posted by: ChristyB would not wear a tunic at March 12, 2015 12:35 PM (TIGDR)
At one of our local Tea Party protests, we had about 500 attendees; there were 2 cops on hand. We were ENTIRELY peaceful; I suppose that's the difference from a MOSTLY peaceful protest. Also, the total # of cop cars and businesses we burned was zero.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 12, 2015 12:35 PM (daoTf)
Posted by: Lea at March 12, 2015 12:35 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: speedster1 on the (new) ipad at March 12, 2015 12:35 PM (1brdf)
Posted by: Null at March 12, 2015 12:36 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: The prophet Some Dope at March 12, 2015 12:36 PM (zhhGF)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 12, 2015 12:36 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 12, 2015 12:35 PM (0FSuD)
Curiously, our beloved host here, also a Democrat, is awake.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at March 12, 2015 12:36 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Slappy McLibtard at March 12, 2015 12:37 PM (FRkJH)
Posted by: Wanda Jean ( always clean ) at March 12, 2015 12:37 PM (8CdUx)
When liberals start blubbering about Ferguson and The Gentle Giant, I suggest that they move into high crime areas. Most of the white liberals who carry on over this crap wouldn't get caught dead living in an area like Ferguson, and they damn well wouldn't send their kids to schools in these areas.
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 12, 2015 12:37 PM (KzWjU)
Posted by: speedster1 on the (new) ipad at March 12, 2015 12:37 PM (1brdf)
As Holder forces the hand and resignation of the Police Chief, and some judge in the DOJ report also resigns, what will take their places?
Same ole same ole, and probably much worse.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 12, 2015 12:37 PM (IXrOn)
I'll bet you didn't know that Ferguson is an alternate spring break destination this year. Yep, saw it on the local news.
Right now a SWAT team is getting into the attic of a house from the roof after people in house removed in handcuffs.
Posted by: Justamom at March 12, 2015 12:37 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Wanda Jean ( always clean ) at March 12, 2015 12:38 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: UGAdawg at March 12, 2015 12:38 PM (aO1W9)
Time to check the bulk sales again.
Posted by: Moar Ammo! at March 12, 2015 12:32 PM (HstNY)
Another 1,000 of M855 arrived yesterday. When they come to my home they will say, I don't know.
A guy with over 10,000 rounds of various calibers is clearly a Nazi or something.
It doesn't go bad, and that and valu rite will see me thru anything.
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 12, 2015 12:38 PM (0FSuD)
Paging Tom Cotton
Posted by: The prophet Some Dope at March 12, 2015 12:38 PM (zhhGF)
She tries to obfuscate that, but in the end, that's what she says. Additionally when a freaking CNN anchor merely asked if it would be a good idea for a pause in the protests she freaked out and cited First Amendment issues.
Seriously.
Ferguson is fucked, even I know that, best to treat it like North St. Louis, don't go there, don't talk about.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) who misses sleep at March 12, 2015 12:40 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 12, 2015 12:40 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: ALH at March 12, 2015 12:40 PM (yAPdC)
Posted by: Garrett at March 12, 2015 12:41 PM (Henv4)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 12, 2015 12:41 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at March 12, 2015 12:36 PM (vgIRn)
Yes, I think The Prophet Ace, is going to come around. Clearly he has not changed his registration, or we would be hearing about all the robo calls
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 12, 2015 12:41 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Disgruntled Business Owner at March 12, 2015 12:41 PM (fLKzW)
Posted by: JEM at March 12, 2015 12:42 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 12, 2015 12:42 PM (1Y+hH)
When all is said and done I'm betting there were "outside agitators" doing the killing.
Posted by: MTF, Bring On The Art. 5 Convention! at March 12, 2015 12:43 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: JEM at March 12, 2015 12:43 PM (o+SC1)
Win or lose, force the State Media to talk about it.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 12, 2015 12:43 PM (78TbK)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2015 12:43 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Prezzy B and DoJ Jazzy Holder at March 12, 2015 12:43 PM (ps+cq)
If you listen to the detailed demands of the Ferguson protesters, self-policing is just the beginning.
What they are calling for is a parallel and totally independent police force for black areas. With all black officers and a black chief, and an all black oversight board.
They also want a parallel and independent city council, with all black city councillors, black city legal counsel, and a black mayor.
Education likewise. A parallel and independent school system. Specific schools for blacks with Afrocentric curricula, all black teachers and an all black school board.
Pretty much in every particular down to the sewer commission, they want their own structure of governance without any white influence.
I've been batting around ideas along this line. Such a model really requires a catchy slogan that sums up the key concept in a few words. Here's the best one I've come up with so far: "Separate but equal."
Whaddaya think? Does this have legs?
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2015 12:44 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 12, 2015 12:42 PM (1Y+hH)
It wasn't even Ferguson cops that got shot. I'm wondering how long until all the police around here just go "fuck it" and quit, since apparently you can get sent to that hellhole from miles away.
I should probably write my city council and say "we're not sending any cops right? Because the hell I want my police force taking any risks for nothing." (IIRC Creve Coeur may have actually declined sending cops at the start, but honestly I forget.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) who misses sleep at March 12, 2015 12:44 PM (HDwDg)
let the animals police themselves
Posted by: kj at March 12, 2015 12:44 PM (lKyWE)
Whaddaya think? Does this have legs?
*golf clap*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2015 12:45 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 12, 2015 12:38 PM (0FSuD)
Don't forget pictures of Kate Upton. Those'll help keep you warm when the grid goes down.
Posted by: MTF, Bring On The Art. 5 Convention! at March 12, 2015 12:45 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 12:46 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2015 12:46 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 12:46 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: maddogg at March 12, 2015 12:46 PM (xWW96)
Al Sharpton has his fingerprints all over this.
Posted by: ALH at March 12, 2015 12:40 PM
Well, he is hardest hit.
Posted by: huerfano at March 12, 2015 12:46 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 12:46 PM (kff5f)
So they want...Dellwood, or Berkeley, or half the other towns up there.
Hell it's there vote. Although I would note that investigations by local news outlets have shown those towns to actually be worse in terms of ticketing abuse and abuse of power.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) who misses sleep at March 12, 2015 12:46 PM (HDwDg)
Has anyone brought up the issue of drinking fountains yet?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2015 12:46 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: da NFL at March 12, 2015 12:47 PM (wn5T8)
Posted by: joncelli at March 12, 2015 12:47 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Ferguson protestor at March 12, 2015 12:47 PM (VAsIq)
The "going spastic" part is the best. If the Left were confident about their position they would be laughing it off. They aren't laughing it off so they are sensitive there, worried there, and I believe that is a good thing.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. Walker's Throne of Skulls! Replicas only at the Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2015 12:47 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: speedster1 on the (new) ipad at March 12, 2015 12:48 PM (1brdf)
Genius!
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at March 12, 2015 12:48 PM (TPjwz)
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at March 12, 2015 12:48 PM (Bn6aD)
It's just to the left of the black's only lunch counter.
Posted by: Garrett at March 12, 2015 12:48 PM (Henv4)
I always want to ask how that is working out for them, but at this point what difference does it make?
Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 12, 2015 12:48 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 12:48 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2015 12:48 PM (sxoKo)
1) Ferguson cops resing, en masse, and find jobs elsewhere.
2) St. Louis County PD stations cops around the perimeter of Ferguson.
3) Let the inmates police their own asylum. Give' em what they want, good hard.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 12, 2015 12:49 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: joncelli at March 12, 2015 12:47 PM (RD7QR)
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If they got shot with with green tips fired from .223 Contender.... Im trading in my tin foil hat and ordering a stainless colander with a leather chin strap from Amazon.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2015 12:49 PM (NaV4z)
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Excuse me, miss...oh, never mind, dear.
You look lovely.
Posted by: Tea Party Protestor at March 12, 2015 12:49 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2015 12:49 PM (yty4o)
Posted by: Garrett at March 12, 2015 12:49 PM (Henv4)
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at March 12, 2015 12:48 PM (Bn6aD) Have you never been to a Teaparty rally?
Posted by: maddogg at March 12, 2015 12:49 PM (xWW96)
Sounds vaguely familiar .
I think I've heard the Aztlan fanbois say similar things .
150 yrs. of blood , sweat and national treasure pissed away .
Posted by: awkward davies at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (Z+Mqb)
Posted by: The MFM, Preezy, and AL SHARPTON? at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (fLKzW)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (FMbng)
A little hard for them to respond right now. They're running low on electricity.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Afroman at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (l7Prb)
We're living in 2015.
By which I don't simply mean "don't compare to those other years". I mean "this is about to become one of those years you're comparing this to". We're in or near a shorthand year.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (DT3rQ)
At the very least, they should call in sick any day they're scheduled to work in Ferguson.
And, yes, I mean that "should."
If they want to live out Lord of the Flies- cordon off the city, then let them have at it. Probably give a one week notice to let all those who *don't* want to be trapped in such a hell-hole time to escape.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (kff5f)
Oh, And Holder and Fredo caused this. With Sharpton as an advisor this is only the beginning.
Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or lesser value tibet at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (1Twit)
Peaceful and protester are certainly an oxymoron...
Should clarify here with this "group, it's an oxymoron...
Posted by: hello it's Me Donna... again at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: e holder at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (FBYgU)
Posted by: fixerupper
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But line the colander with foil! Don't leave the holes!!!
Posted by: Pon Raul supporter at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (b4b5c)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (FMbng)
Hey, it worked for Zimbabwe. Well, except for the whole "food production" thing, anyway.
Posted by: Robert Mugabe at March 12, 2015 12:50 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 12, 2015 12:51 PM (wtvvX)
Someone ask Charles C. W. Cooke. He's got a British accent, so he'll know.
Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2015 12:51 PM (9ZZd+)
The grass knoll theory already. These people are worse than cheerleaders, they're co-conspirators.
Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2015 12:51 PM (rCQo0)
Wait, what?
The city is already majority black, yes? So wouldn't the only obstacle to that be... voting?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 12:51 PM (kff5f)
For cheap trac-phones, housing vouchers, and EBT cards.
Not. F***ing. Worth it.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 12, 2015 12:51 PM (DT3rQ)
That's biased against amputees. Whaddaya got against amputees, eh?
Posted by: Stumpy at March 12, 2015 12:52 PM (7x4lH)
"Segragation now! Segragation forever!"
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 12:52 PM (VlPbv)
This was all for ginning up black turnout in the 2014 election.
I honestly thought the American people would have turned on Obama in a big way with all of the race baiting he's been engaged in, but it's definitely a different America. 20 years ago, the Democrat Party would have been dead and buried had we had a President that liked stirring this shit up on a regular basis.
Posted by: McAdams at March 12, 2015 12:52 PM (DFe9B)
Posted by: kathysaysso at March 12, 2015 12:52 PM (fMQoG)
wondering how long until all the police around here just go "fuck it"
and quit, since apparently you can get sent to that hellhole from miles
away.
I should probably write my city council and say "we're not sending
any cops right? Because the hell I want my police force taking any
risks for nothing." (IIRC Creve Coeur may have actually declined
sending cops at the start, but honestly I forget.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) who misses sleep at March 12, 2015 12:44 PM (HDwDg)
You and I are thinking along the same lines. I may have sympathy for the County cop who was shot, but St. Louis County is responsible for the mess that exists, with municipalities all over the place, and no clear boundaries between County responsibilities and the municipalities.
But Webster Groves??? Ferguson is straight up North County. Webster Groves is south and west. Nowhere near Ferguson. Their muny cops have NO BUSINESS being there!
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2015 12:52 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 12, 2015 12:52 PM (XvsbD)
Let's give them a State!
Oh wait....that's the Palestinians .
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 12, 2015 12:53 PM (sxoKo)
Damn, Shotgun ammo in every cal. I bet in 12ga I have at least a 1,000 rounds of 8's another 1,000 round of 6's. 20 ga about the same. 28 ga, not so much, to expensive.
OK, it's an investment. That's it
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 12, 2015 12:53 PM (0FSuD)
Local police are reporting shots fired from 125 years away which (but from a handgun...soooo...yeah something not right there, those are some lucky ass shots.)
125 yards away would probably have been outside whatever was left of the protest group, but that means jack shit honestly, because it could have still be anything from "protestors" to some stupid ass gang banger going to make a name for himself.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) who misses sleep at March 12, 2015 12:53 PM (HDwDg)
I'm thinking we just wall this area off and let them "police themselves."
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I think this strategy has some merit, in a social darwinian way. It would lower the long term cost of transfer payments.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 12, 2015 12:53 PM (40li+)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 12, 2015 12:53 PM (fWAjv)
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Shut up, fool. We're *owed* a black mayor because of six hundred years of slaves in America! We don't have to vote for nothin'!
Posted by: Ferguson protestor at March 12, 2015 12:54 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: FDR's Television at March 12, 2015 12:54 PM (ne2fm)
Posted by: Caiwyn at March 12, 2015 12:54 PM (nU8lz)
You mean "The Duck"? He's paddling under the surface for justice...yada yada yada.
Posted by: Paladin at March 12, 2015 12:54 PM (WujO7)
Posted by: Rinse Prebone at March 12, 2015 12:54 PM (lG2E3)
force for black areas. With all black officers and a black chief, and an
all black oversight board.
They also want a parallel and independent city council, with all
black city councillors, black city legal counsel, and a black mayor.
Good idea. They can call it "separate but equal".
Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2015 12:55 PM (kivUY)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Disgruntled Business Owner at March 12, 2015 12:55 PM (fLKzW)
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This is not correct. The liberal moderate needs the radical extremist, the lone wolf, the nut job, and the chaos in the street or the threat of chaos so they, the liberal moderate can rush in with a new solution to the problem, a third way, a peaceful way to sooth the mobs in the street, a way that does not include paramilitary squads and heavy weapons. The liberal moderate needs the radical to frighten and threaten. The liberal moderate will use these protests to advance their agenda. This violence is a useful tool for the liberal moderate. It is not a wedge issue. The liberal moderate will say the words, pay lip service, but you will never see the liberal moderate doing anything to stop the violence. Instead they will do everything they can to excuse it, and enable it.
This is all going according to plan.
Posted by: JamesKP at March 12, 2015 12:55 PM (VYDzt)
Posted by: Heralder at March 12, 2015 12:55 PM (/Mxso)
Posted by: THE BARREL at March 12, 2015 12:55 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 12:56 PM (wlDny)
Posted by: Lefty Dipshit at March 12, 2015 12:56 PM (i0wGQ)
.... damn. >< ... this close
Posted by: THE BARREL at March 12, 2015 12:56 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: tsrblke
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From the past or the future?
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 12:56 PM (VAsIq)
The city is already majority black, yes? So wouldn't the only obstacle to that be... voting?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 12:51 PM (kff5f)
Why yes it would. And some of my relatives were crazed nutjobs trying to get people registered to vote down there.
My brother and I laughed heartily noting that they'll all sign the form, but 0 of them will actually go to the polls.
Oh BTW, local NPR: it's racist that the elections are in april of odd years rather than during national elections. (Even though it's specifically developed like that to prevent them from being lost in the noise.)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2015 12:52 PM (TOk1P)
Google tells me that all these places signed "mutual aid agreements."
Quick, end those now.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) who misses sleep at March 12, 2015 12:56 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2015 12:52 PM (TOk1P)
There is probably a Municipal Aid Agreement in place where each municipality agrees to assist the others when they are in need.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. Walker's Throne of Skulls! Replicas only at the Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2015 12:57 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 12:57 PM (wlDny)
black city councilors, black city legal counsel, and a black mayor.
Hell, i can up with this idea back in the 70's ... BTA Fund!
Posted by: Zombie Richard Pryor at March 12, 2015 12:57 PM (WujO7)
Posted by: Jim at March 12, 2015 12:57 PM (7x4lH)
Only 6% of Ferguson's black residents voted in the last municipal elections. The total turnout was 12%.
So their lack of representation is their own fault? hmmm, that can't be the reason; wait, I've got it it was voter ID. Or racism. Or both.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 12, 2015 12:57 PM (daoTf)
125 yards away would probably have been outside whatever was left of the protest group,"
That is completely inconsequential. The people who commit violence use the protesters to set the stage for their actions. It's all coordinated, although the protesters themselves may be useful idiots who aren't in on the larger plan.
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 12:57 PM (MYCIw)
FVCK. THEM.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 12, 2015 12:57 PM (wtvvX)
http://tinyurl.com/pab77hp
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 12, 2015 12:57 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Michael Brown at March 12, 2015 12:58 PM (lG2E3)
Quick, end those now. "
Sorta like the mutual defense pacts that started WW1 it sounds.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2015 12:58 PM (LA7Cm)
No one from Ferguson, a dirt bag city, has the time to go do this shit.
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 12, 2015 12:58 PM (0FSuD)
You're misunderstanding Ace's point.
The "Liberal moderates" to whom he's referring are the LIV Liberals. The ones who vote based on feels and "there oughtta be a LAW!"
They would be outraged and embarrassed to be directly tied to this kind of behavior. Their self image absolutely denies it.
Therefore it is a wedge issue. They can "sympathize with the plight" of the Ferguson rioters, but they cannot condone rioting. If they were forced to actually examine the facts, they would reject it totally.
And so the MFM will ensure they are never encouraged, let alone forced, to examine the facts.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 12:58 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2015 12:59 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: beats27 at March 12, 2015 12:59 PM (V8L/P)
What they are calling for is a parallel and totally independent police force for black areas. With all black officers and a black chief, and an all black oversight board.
They also want a parallel and independent city council, with all black city councillors, black city legal counsel, and a black mayor.
Education likewise. A parallel and independent school system. Specific schools for blacks with Afrocentric curricula, all black teachers and an all black school board.
Pretty much in every particular down to the sewer commission, they want their own structure of governance without any white influence.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2015 12:44 PM (noWW6)
I'll bet they also want plenty of money from white taxpayers, though.
Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2015 12:59 PM (zoehZ)
We have truly gone down a rabbit hole.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2015 12:59 PM (8ZskC)
One of my local cops has worked in Ferguson.
He says cops don't earn a whole lot, and in addition to the money they work to support their brethren on the force.
Their efforts have been hamstrung from the outset by the politicians. I could never understand why people should be allowed to block roads and protest all night. I told him if it were up to me I would impose a curfew and cordon off each block. Don't let people through unless they have business. But I guess that's the, uh, German in me???
Posted by: Justamom at March 12, 2015 12:59 PM (Sptt8)
but 125 years away would be a damn good shot.
Posted by: shredded chi at March 12, 2015 12:59 PM (rCQo0)
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"Facts are racist!"
Posted by: Ferguson protestor at March 12, 2015 12:59 PM (VAsIq)
1) Ferguson cops resing, en masse, and find jobs elsewhere.
2) St. Louis County PD stations cops around the perimeter of Ferguson.
3) Let the inmates police their own asylum. Give' em what they want, good hard.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 12, 2015 12:49 PM (wtvvX)
Except that's pretty much the way things were when this whole thing blew up in the first place. Ferguson is a municipality, set up by the residents, for the residents. No on other than the residents created the government and police force they now have.
St. Louis County police force sometimes cooperates with the municipalities, but the municipalities tell the county how and when, not the other way around.
So the city of Ferguson has the police force they created. This is the result. People like the idea of localized control. Until stuff happens.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2015 01:00 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 12, 2015 12:57 PM (daoTf)
When they fail to show up at the polls and use the democratic process, they call this "structural racism", or "systemic racism".
Posted by: Heralder at March 12, 2015 01:00 PM (/Mxso)
Burning Ring of Fire.
This, imho, is the story of fergAstan.
Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 12, 2015 01:00 PM (wQ7l/)
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 12, 2015 01:01 PM (89Yyl)
Posted by: JHW at March 12, 2015 01:01 PM (w+zdY)
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 12, 2015 01:01 PM (89Yyl)
Lie.
Michael Brown was "mostly peaceful". Right after he robbed a store.
Lie. Proven in court as false.
Holder couldn't charge anyone with anything. But the force is "racist".
Sharpton uses the false narrative to stoke a crown in incitement.
Demonstrably true.
Should I go on or is that even enough for liberals?
Posted by: Marcus T at March 12, 2015 01:02 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 01:02 PM (VlPbv)
Posted by: awkward davies at March 12, 2015 01:02 PM (Z+Mqb)
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Sure, it has my name on it, but other people have been writing this magazine for years! It's just ghost-written, that's all.
Posted by: Pon Raul at March 12, 2015 01:02 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: rickl at March 12, 2015 12:59 PM (zoehZ)
They built america so now they can retire.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 12, 2015 01:03 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 12, 2015 01:03 PM (lG2E3)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 01:02 PM (VlPbv)
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Heh.... thats what my son.... who spent Christmas there in the Guard... calls it.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2015 01:03 PM (NaV4z)
The speed limits have not changed for 50 years and are kept stupid low for the tickets. When have you seen any LEO driving the speed limit off duty? This and the drug war bullshit has made this into a powder keg and it is ready to blow. In white commuities too..
Posted by: catman at March 12, 2015 01:03 PM (5d4og)
Posted by: Marcus T
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Sorry, one of the Kardashians said something. What did you say?
Posted by: LIV at March 12, 2015 01:03 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 01:04 PM (MYCIw)
On the bright side, it'll be fun to see Gabe go in and demand a gay wedding cake or use of the facilities.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2015 01:04 PM (b7GF2)
Yes, and that includes the people who have gone there from out of town to stir up trouble. Hey, you broke it, you buy it amirite???
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 01:05 PM (bdqzU)
Quick, end those now.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) who misses sleep at March 12, 2015 12:56 PM (HDwDg)
I see. Well, something tells me the good town folk from Webster Groves are going to be revisiting that little thing at their next town council meeting. Which may be happening right now, as we speak.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2015 01:06 PM (TOk1P)
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Every day I see cops zipping through traffic, no turn signals, no regard for the speed limit. They get right up on someone's bumper, cut through parking lots to avoid stopping at a light...all things that would get you or me ticketed in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 01:06 PM (VAsIq)
Well, actually most of do
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 12, 2015 01:06 PM (0FSuD)
Shooting into a group of 10 or so officers though, your target area is effectively at least 8 ft. by 8 ft., and that's if they're fairly well packed together.
That's not any demonstration of good shooting, that's just lobbing in artillery.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at March 12, 2015 01:06 PM (7x4lH)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 01:07 PM (wlDny)
But it is their due. Every bit.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at March 12, 2015 01:07 PM (scgac)
Posted by: dogfish at March 12, 2015 01:07 PM (1vYi0)
Nope. The LIV sympathizes with the poor oppressed black minority and feels that the rioting is justified. They are not embarrassed. They make excuses like a parent of a juvenile delinquent.
Posted by: JamesKP at March 12, 2015 01:07 PM (VYDzt)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 12, 2015 01:07 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 01:07 PM (VAsIq)
I know, right? It's not like the highest law enforcement person in the country - the Attorney General - just declared the entire Ferguson Police Dept. so racistsy racist that they needed to be disbanded just last week.
So, totes didn't give them marching orders to put his prescribed remedy into action. Nope.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2015 01:08 PM (bdqzU)
black city councillors, black city legal counsel, and a black mayor.
Isn't that called Detroit?
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 01:08 PM (sWgE+)
Sheesh. These are the top stories on STL Today:
MOST POPULAR STORIES-- Police search for those who shot 2 officers in Ferguson 'ambush'
-- Girl kidnapped in O'Fallon, Mo., is found in car at police checkpoint
-- 6-year-old boy fatally shot in rolling St. Louis gunbattle
The Show Me State is showing its sordid side.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 01:08 PM (JtwS4)
I always thought it funny that they have all this energy to riot, pillage and loot. But when it comes time to rebuild as a result of their rioting, pillaging and looting, they can't seem to find the motivation.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 12, 2015 01:08 PM (0HooB)
If you want to keep your blood pressure down, do not read the comments at the embedded link.
I'm sorry I did.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 01:09 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 01:09 PM (VAsIq)
Has to be the cops setting people up. Has to be.
Remember, the Left has only the best of intentions so there can never, ever, ever be any negative results to their actions. Not. Ever.
Posted by: alexthechick - To nom. Perhaps to nosh. at March 12, 2015 01:09 PM (mf5HN)
Oh yes. As I occasionally observe here.
But I have no "so-what?" follow-up to that observation. No operational "so we do this". Nothing.
Which outlines the dilemma. That *is* the country now (effectively - enough of it, clearly).
Also why I point out repeatedly: Obama, et al - symptoms, not cause.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 12, 2015 01:09 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 12, 2015 01:07 PM (wlDny)
Holy crap! Vic is a Cylon!
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 01:09 PM (kff5f)
Going off line for a few minutes to load new software.
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Euphemism?
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 01:07 PM (VAsIq)
Naw, he's from Jersey...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 12, 2015 01:09 PM (wtvvX)
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I'm amazed at how every business in these areas has "Help Wanted" signs in their windows, and yet no one applies....
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 01:10 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 01:10 PM (sWgE+)
What, and lose their benefits?
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 12, 2015 01:11 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2015 01:11 PM (b7GF2)
1. Of course FAUX NEWZ blamed Obama.
2. Bill O'Reilly murdered an abortion provider
3. One guy made a cute little connect-the-dots middle finger aimed at Elizabeth Hasselbeck. No war on wimminz there.
4. FAUX NEWZ!!!!!1!!!!eleventy!!!!
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 01:11 PM (7ObY1)
But one of the commenters said something interesting. (paraphrasing here) "It doesnt matter in the long term what Republicans want anyways, because with immigration and a higher birthrate, minorities will be in control of this country soon enough. Then the hateful Republican party will disappear. We just have to hold them off until then, and make sure they don't try to repeal social security or anything crazy like that."
Which kind of made me laugh. Do these idiot old, white liberals really think that importing millions of poor socialists who are taught from day one to hate gringo and to hate the US both in their home countries and in the US are going to give a shit about them?
I can't help but feel like we're going to have a South African moment in this country at some point, where whites are basically under siege at all times.
Then where do we go? Australia?
Europe will be fulling sharia by then... Asia doesn't want us...
You know, when people do this in Africa it's called ethnic cleansing. In the US, it's seen as a good thing. Because, fuck whitey.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:11 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: LIV at March 12, 2015 01:12 PM (VAsIq)
Well, they feel they "deserve" jobs where they get paid $20 an hour for doing nothing, but the City ain't hiring right now.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 12, 2015 01:12 PM (wtvvX)
Not that I disagree but....isn't that similar to what you got so mad at Empire of Jeff for saying?
Posted by: Tami at March 12, 2015 01:12 PM (v0/PR)
Don't be a h8ter. Katie's adorbs.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 01:13 PM (7ObY1)
artist. And the public is fed up. I have 70 year old women cursing
police officers for ticketing people leaving church for the ticket
revenue. And don't pull that bullshit "don't break the law " shit.
The speed limits have not changed for 50 years and are kept stupid
low for the tickets. When have you seen any LEO driving the speed limit
off duty? This and the drug war bullshit has made this into a powder
keg and it is ready to blow. In white commuities too..
Posted by: catman
Yea, obviously this is a completely separate matter than protesters shooting a cop, but police officers used to have the Silent Majority to watch their back but that's definitely slipping away.
I'm from a cop family and yet I can completely understand the public turning on LEOs. There has been a sea change in the way they interact with the public.
Posted by: McAdams at March 12, 2015 01:13 PM (DFe9B)
Clinic think President Obama should call Bush and ask him questions on why he let this happen. Probably all of his policies towards persons of color and persons of some color and how persons of no color have taken advantage of these poor people. Presdent Obama shouls ask Jessie Jackson and Rev Al;f Sharpton for help to solve this situation before Bush can cause more problems. These people were wronged by Bush and we need to take care of them by giving them some money to help them through this time of stress caused by Bush policies. Bush lied and now Presdent oblama and Mischelle must fix this problem along with Iraq, Iran, and Isreal. we are proud of them for tackling this problems and not walking away like Bush and Chainey did !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 12, 2015 01:13 PM (Sd++4)
Posted by: The LIVs at March 12, 2015 01:13 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 12, 2015 01:13 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Reggie at March 12, 2015 01:14 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 01:14 PM (zOTsN)
But it is their due. Every bit.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at March 12, 2015 01:07 PM (scgac)
We'll have personal death stars and custom built luxury planets before that happens.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2015 01:14 PM (FMbng)
Yes, I agree with all of that.
But this Ferguson shit isn't about the cops.
It's about black people being viciously racist against white people.
If the police officer who shot Brown was a black guy, none of us would have ever heard of it. It would have been a local story for a few days.
But yes, at some point police changed from "to protect and to serve" to "to be revenue collectors and general, all around assholes"
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:15 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2015 12:44 PM (noWW6)
There's a word for that in Afrikaans: "apartheid". And that is precisely what those black activists are demanding. Curious, eh wot?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2015 01:15 PM (uO0Po)
My bail out plan is the Isle of Man.
Of course, given size restrictions and strict immigration laws, I'm not sure that's a very scalable plan.
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 01:15 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 01:14 PM (zOTsN)
I think I don't want to know where Vic puts the floppy.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 01:16 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 12, 2015 01:16 PM (fWAjv)
Could have happened when they started scraping the "To Protect and Serve" decals off the cars.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 01:16 PM (VlPbv)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 12, 2015 01:16 PM (/kI1Q)
Bet I can score lots of chicks there.
Wait, why are you all laughing?
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 01:16 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: dogfish at March 12, 2015 01:16 PM (1vYi0)
Posted by: mynewhandle
FIFY
Posted by: NBC News (or was it ABC? I forget) at March 12, 2015 01:17 PM (VAsIq)
Good luck getting emigrating to Britain. Not as easy as you'd think it should be. Unless you're from a Commonwealth country.
Also, Britain as a whole is not far beyond mainland Europe in their path toward Sharia.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:17 PM (AkOaV)
TX Morons need to start sending editorials to their papers, sending letters (on real paper) to their state Senators and Congressmen, and generally lobbying the TX Government to draw up articles of Secession.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 01:17 PM (kff5f)
Not that I disagree but....isn't that similar to what you got so mad at Empire of Jeff for saying?
Posted by: Tami at March 12, 2015 01:12 PM (v0/PR)
Don't think Ace called them savages or deserve the Ebola death. But, thats just me.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 12, 2015 01:17 PM (2Aj5D)
Individual blacks already burn with shame and frustration at this whole thing - and have for years. But they're, statistically speaking, freaks and outliers.
There was a (self-described) black female lurker making first comment here the other night. Her story was soul-crushing, really. Smart, aware - and raised by a good set of parents to think straight and thus writhing in agony at the idiocy surrounding the artificial issue of "race" in America.
Black Americans like her, and all the rest of us, are doomed to live with this degraded, stupid and destructive crap. It's been a long time developing. When words become meaningless, and concepts get inverted, and institutions collapse, there are no tools to fix the problem.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 12, 2015 01:17 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Lauren
They do have awesomely adorable cats, though. So there's that.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 12, 2015 01:18 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: H. Clinton at March 12, 2015 01:18 PM (LA7Cm)
At least we finally have a plausible location for the Snake Plissken reboot.
Posted by: wooga at March 12, 2015 12:29 PM (OoVgj)
Well, the original EFNY was filmed just a stones throw away in E St Louis, because Carpenter found that he didn't have to spend any money to dress the locations to resemble an apocalyptic wasteland.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 12, 2015 01:18 PM (SpnVI)
Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at March 12, 2015 01:18 PM (SCcgT)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 12, 2015 01:18 PM (WNERA)
Ha, good point.
I thought that was MSNBC though...
(I assume you're talking about the racist neo Nazi rifle open carrying TEA Party guy, who a full frame picture showed as actually a black dude)
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:18 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizarroland at March 12, 2015 01:19 PM (lY1vf)
is Holder going to declare open season on them?
oh
that's right, De Blasio already did
if you tell people their lives suck for reasons they cannot change like their skin color this is the result
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 12, 2015 01:19 PM (zOTsN)
Never forget what they did after the Cong. Giffords shooting.
Two weeks of blaming the right. Two solid weeks at least.
Capped off with that disgraceful memorial service/political rally in which Obama drove the political point straight home. Still makes me angry. Never forget.
Posted by: CJ at March 12, 2015 01:20 PM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Tami at March 12, 2015 01:12 PM (v0/PR)
No that was because EoJ called a group of black Africans "savages". I agreed with him, because those particular ones were acting in a very savage manner, but ace didn't appreciate the optics of it.
Posted by: Heralder at March 12, 2015 01:20 PM (/Mxso)
Well, they are rioting. When you the cards get turned off?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 01:20 PM (VlPbv)
Every single account I clicked on belongs to someone who is either trans, gay, black or some combination of the above; the tweets I read indicate that they are angry angry angry at society and view everything - everything - from the prism of their "otherness" (for want of a better term). These people are NUTS. So they've set up a program to carefully block everything they disagree with on Twitter, en masse? In many cases, without even reading any posts from the person's account? How ridiculous is that?
I have blocked folks on Twitter myself, and I know there is some debate about this, but when I block I do it individually and after reading something the person has posted that I really find offensive. This is just bizarre. I can't believe Twitter allows it.
Posted by: Dr Alice at March 12, 2015 01:20 PM (DMpNS)
But this Ferguson shit isn't about the cops.
It's about black people being viciously racist against white people.
If the police officer who shot Brown was a black guy, none of us would have ever heard of it. It would have been a local story for a few days.
But yes, at some point police changed from "to protect and to serve" to "to be revenue collectors and general, all around assholes"
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:15 PM (AkOaV)
Yeah that's pretty much it in a nutshell. This isn't really about the cops.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2015 01:21 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 12, 2015 01:17 PM (2Aj5D)
So then what's implied by 'wall it off' and 'police themselves'?
Posted by: Tami at March 12, 2015 01:21 PM (v0/PR)
Yeah. It's really inexplicable to me.
Republicans say "we want everyone to be treated equally under the law" and pass the 13th and 14th amendments, blacks vote for R's for a while... but within a generation or two, they move toward the "we hate blacks, but we love us some socialism" party, which then transformed itself to the "we still think blacks are stupid and inferior, but here's an EBT card, so vote for us" party.
And the conservatives / Republicans are saying "uhh... dude, you wanted to be equal, no? We agree. We did that for you. Why are *WE* the racists now?"
And blacks say, "shut up."
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:21 PM (AkOaV)
America and the Constitution depend upon a civil society. Going off the rails endangers everything.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 12, 2015 01:21 PM (WNERA)
whatever was left of the protest group, but that means jack shit
honestly, because it could have still be anything from "protestors" to
some stupid ass gang banger going to make a name for himself.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) who misses sleep at March 12, 2015 12:53 PM (HDwDg)
In which case, there will soon be a post on twatter or arsebook bragging on that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2015 01:22 PM (uO0Po)
I have a stong feeling that the entire country is being run on the same principle. Do you know why impeachment is off the table? Do you know why the debt limit is constantly raised, and there is no budget?
Threats of riots.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 12, 2015 01:22 PM (40li+)
Posted by: John Carpenter at March 12, 2015 01:23 PM (D7HXY)
Posted by: rickb223
Well that requires a Congress that hasn't abdicated their fiduciary responsibilities.
Posted by: dogfish at March 12, 2015 01:23 PM (1vYi0)
Posted by: Barack Obama at March 12, 2015 01:23 PM (CrJzY)
Makes me so angry. Makrs me long for the day when Obama and Holder will be tried and get treated according to the injustice they wrought. I'd gladly slap the horse's butt and watch them swing.
Posted by: Gentle Giant at March 12, 2015 01:23 PM (FviSe)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizarroland at March 12, 2015 01:23 PM (lY1vf)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2015 01:21 PM (FMbng)
Which pisses me off, because there is a lot of shit I'd like to see reformed in the criminal justice system.
But the race hustlers have to hijack that for their own purposes.
Nobody's out protesting when unarmed white guys get shot by cops, but god forbid a black guy attacks a cop and goes for his gun and the white cop shoots him. Then all bets are off.
Just like the Zimmerman thing. They heard the name, assumed he was a white jewish guy out hunting for Blacks. When that turned out not to be true, they made up "White Hispanic" to continue the narrative.
Again, obviously not about cops. Just about hating white people. Which I guess is socially acceptable and encouraged nowadays. Because racism is cool.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:24 PM (AkOaV)
Maybe there needs to be fundamental change in the demographics of the rioters.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 12, 2015 01:24 PM (lG2E3)
Threats of riots.
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It sucks having a conscience and not being willing to play the same way the other side does.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 01:24 PM (VAsIq)
Because they don't want to be "equal." They want to be superior.
They don't want "justice." They want revenge.
They don't want Liberty with its concomitant Responsibility, they want License.
And, as with all vices, that makes them easy to use for those who are wont to do so. And the Democrats definitely want to do so.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 01:24 PM (kff5f)
Also, Britain as a whole is not far beyond mainland Europe in their path toward Sharia."
Oh, I know. We'd probably have an easier time than most since my husband has a job that can be done from home anywhere, but the work permit process alone looked pretty complicated. As for Sharia, that's also a good point, though I don't think it's a big issue on the actual island right now.
The appeal is mostly their tax structure and the weird animals. I'm a sucker for weird animals.
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 01:25 PM (MYCIw)
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License to Ill.
Posted by: Beastie Boys at March 12, 2015 01:25 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 12, 2015 01:22 PM (40li+)
Yeah, you know what, maybe it's time for some riots in this country.
Because everyone always is so considerate of the feelings of the "black community" and worried they might burn down a city. But no one gives a shit about the "white community" who has to sit there and take it. Every. Single. Time.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:25 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 01:26 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 12, 2015 01:21 PM (WNERA)
Heh!!
-The Left
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizarroland at March 12, 2015 01:26 PM (lY1vf)
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 01:25 PM (MYCIw)
Weird animals are cool.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:26 PM (AkOaV)
Don't forget the asterisk.
It's "eye for an eye" if the accused is not sufficiently Mohammedan (meaning: considered "more authentic" than the victim).
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 01:27 PM (kff5f)
I just saw that both officers were released from the hospital, one with a bullet still lodged in his head.
Thought they were both "critically wounded." And they are both released already?
Posted by: Citizen X at March 12, 2015 01:27 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Lauren
Weird animals are cool.
Posted by: mynewhandle
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I just like the animals to be furry and cute and small enough to...hold in my hand.
Posted by: Harry Reid at March 12, 2015 01:27 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Fergustinian Liberation Organization at March 12, 2015 01:27 PM (wn5T8)
It's right about here that I remind the Horde that sowing racial discord was a big part of Little Billy Ayers' plans to overthrow the government.
Somewhere in a penthouse in Chicago, he's laughing his ass off.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 12, 2015 01:27 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 12, 2015 01:27 PM (OQjlM)
As was said here last time Fergadishu burned,
"When blacks riot, cities burn. When whites riot, nations burn".
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 01:27 PM (VlPbv)
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Probably headed somewhere safer than a hospital where the rioters know where they are.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 01:27 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 01:26 PM (sWgE+)
Right. And that's the plan.
Listen to the "protesters" in Ferguson and elsewhere. They're all constantly yelling about "this is the beginning of the revolution" (the media ignores all of that shit), but that's their plan.
They want to start race / class wars to bring about their glorious socialist revolution since every other plan they've tried has failed.
They THINK they can control the rioters. But they're fucking dumb. Mobs take on a mind of their own.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:28 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson
Impeachment went off the table when dems openly laughed and said that bubba was guilty but they voted party instead. No racial animosity in the mix. They're that craven.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2015 01:28 PM (b7GF2)
white people. Which I guess is socially acceptable and encouraged
nowadays. Because racism is cool.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:24 PM (AkOaV)
It is pure racism, agreed. However, the word racism is now being redefined to literally mean that blacks and other minorities cannot be racist since they are not in a position of power. They cannot afford to lose their victimhood status.
Just to be clear, when I'm speaking of they and their, I mean these specific groups of black people guilty of this behavior, not black people as a whole racially.
Posted by: Heralder at March 12, 2015 01:28 PM (/Mxso)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 12, 2015 01:29 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 12, 2015 01:29 PM (OQjlM)
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 01:29 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Sharkman at March 12, 2015 01:29 PM (72D6h)
So then what's implied by 'wall it off' and 'police themselves'
Posted by: Tami at March 12, 2015 01:21 PM (v0/PR)
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Google "Charles Barkley" and "Wild West."
Posted by: CJ at March 12, 2015 01:29 PM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2015 01:30 PM (FMbng)
Any word on the shooters' arrests yet?
Two men and a woman are being questioned but not under arrest.
Also re: Grassy knoll. It's the cops who said the gunfire sounded like handgun and put the location at the back of a parking lot 125 yards away.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 01:30 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Harry Reid
Stay away from my cats, perv.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 12, 2015 01:30 PM (/Ho8c)
are kept stupid low for the tickets. When have you seen any LEO driving
the speed limit off duty? This and the drug war bullshit has made this
into a powder keg and it is ready to blow. In white commuities too..
Posted by: catman at March 12, 2015 01:03 PM (5d4og)
The cops don't set the speed limits, or order the over-zealous enforcement of same. Politicians do. The politicians you elect. Municipalities everywhere see traffic law enforcement as a cash cow.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2015 01:30 PM (uO0Po)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 12, 2015 01:30 PM (OQjlM)
Posted by: CJ
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Google "Will Smith" and "Wild Wild West"
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 01:30 PM (VAsIq)
Was told thatin order to serve as a location, many areas had to be "trashed up" so they'd look like an American city (Canada being famously clean). At least once, a shoot extended beyond mid-day. During lunch break, city crews cleaned up the area - apparently not having "gotten the memo".
So they had to trash up the area AGAIN to film after lunch .....!!!!!
Posted by: rhomboid at March 12, 2015 01:31 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Boss Moss
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If you want Nancy Pelosi, sure, you can have Nancy Pelosi....
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 01:31 PM (VAsIq)
Pistol + 45 degree angle + target rich environment = Artillery lob & luck.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 01:31 PM (VlPbv)
Posted by: Heralder at March 12, 2015 01:28 PM (/Mxso)
Yes, racism = racial hate + power or whatever nonsense.
That's stupid.
Also, who the fcuk has the power here? The agitators on the ground who have the ear of the president, or the people who are constantly told how racist, sexist, bigoted, unfair, privileged (because of their skin color), etc etc etc they are?
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:31 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 12, 2015 01:31 PM (OQjlM)
Exactly my view, and it was about 25 years for me.
Posted by: Heralder at March 12, 2015 01:32 PM (/Mxso)
Gee. Following a protest over the BS DoJ report? What are the odds?
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 12, 2015 01:32 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 12, 2015 01:32 PM (oFCZn)
Gonna kill us a whitey, gonna shoot us a cop,
Gonna hate on you honkeys 'cause Barry never gonna say, "Stop!"
Hands Up! Gonna Shoot!
Down on da ground, white boy, gonna give you the Boot!
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh, Boooooooyyy! (Repeat 7x times, grab crotch)
Posted by: New Black Panthers at March 12, 2015 01:32 PM (sCHw2)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2015 01:30 PM (uO0Po)
Yeah, obviously. It's not the individual guys who sign on the dotted line and go do what their bosses tell them to do who bear most of the blame.
As the Ferguson protesters like to say, it's "the system."
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:33 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Grad School Fool at March 12, 2015 01:33 PM (A9KzJ)
Call me idealistic - but yeah, I have hope in my neighbors - more than I have in my government or media. I know they are inheritors of more than just one thin racial slice of history - they are Washington's sons and Franklin's daughters, the cousins of Aldrin and Armstrong just as they are inheritors of Frederick Douglass and Booker T Washington.
Eventually they will see. Eventually the blurring of the chattering of the leftist media will fade and yeah, there will be then a reckoning.
But I'm idealistic. I think Americans always, eventually think of themselves as Americans first - and at that point, the trash of the media and the propaganda and the petty bullshit of the ward walkers, con men, and dillweeds will fade away.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at March 12, 2015 01:34 PM (scgac)
From what I read, the cops were all standing together. Someone probably just fired a few rounds in their general direction and got lucky.
Could be a rifle though. I guess we'll find out when they release the ballistics report.
Since a face shot didn't kill the cops, I'm guessing it's a low caliber round. Which doesn't exclude rifles, but lends credence to the hand gun theory.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:34 PM (AkOaV)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKXZCbpYgSo
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 12, 2015 01:34 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:31 PM (AkOaV)
It is, but the mindset of the left is that the victim is holy. They must at all costs retain the victimhood status because it pays dividends socially and monetarily.
The accusations of "structural racism" tend to be leveled towards court cases, elections or job interviews that didn't go their way.
Posted by: Heralder at March 12, 2015 01:35 PM (/Mxso)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 01:36 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
The Ohio State Legislature just passed a law requiring a uniformed officer at the site of every "red-light" camera. So the City of Columbus (and most other municipalities that use them) is going to turn off their red-light cameras, until they appeal this law, citing "home rule". I was laughing at this on the way to work this morning. A major intersection I drive through has a bunch of "red-light" cameras.
So yes, most cities look on this as revenue sources, and willfully want to shake down the public.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... waiting for spring at March 12, 2015 01:36 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 01:30 PM (JtwS4)
The inordinately long distance for a handgun shot would explain the survival of the cop shot in the face. I guess the shooter just aimed in the general direction of the massed police officers and hoped for the best.
Posted by: troyriser at March 12, 2015 01:36 PM (q/891)
The leadership of the Catholic Church hated Bush and went mad for obama. They supported obabmacare, until jef shat on them and used them as a political target, to enrage women.
Now, they're again damning police, who are mostly unionized and statist, so as to polarize and focus the anger of blacks.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2015 01:36 PM (b7GF2)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 01:27 PM (kff5f)
***
I disagree There were a few recent cases where victims of acid attackers were allowed retribution in kind by Iranian courts. I seriously doubt thosr acid attackers were Christian, Jewish, Bahai or Buddhist.
Posted by: Gentle Giant at March 12, 2015 01:36 PM (o/3Hk)
Posted by: Bruce J. at March 12, 2015 01:37 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 12, 2015 01:37 PM (Pww3C)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at March 12, 2015 01:18 PM (/Ho8c)
But the island is so small, they have to cut the tails off the cats to make them fit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2015 01:37 PM (uO0Po)
Posted by: Marston at March 12, 2015 01:38 PM (WdJdH)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 12, 2015 01:38 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2015 01:38 PM (LA7Cm)
HELLO?
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 12, 2015 01:39 PM (0FSuD)
Right, and again, it's stupid. And racist (in the old definition of the word) in and of itself.
By saying one race has privileges and exemptions over another race, you're perpetuating racism.
It's like when I was talking to a (ahem) "moderate independent" recently who had recently seen that newish movie about Lincoln. He said, "Its so weird seeing the Democrats be the racists, and not the Republicans."
It infuriated me. The Democrats have ALWAYS been about racial divisions.
They realized in the 60s that their racial shit was no longer working as well with poor whites (especially as many poor whites became middle class whites, and voted based on economics and not racial populism), so they said, "well, fcuk it, let's see if we can use this racial division the other way and get the poor blacks on our side against whitey. Also, let's open up immigration to the third world big time, and ignore Europeans who want to come here. That'll help get us more votes."
Still just as racist as when they were wearing white hoods, just different "victims" this time.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:39 PM (AkOaV)
Live cops, we win. Dead cops, we still win.
Posted by: Public Employee Unions at March 12, 2015 01:39 PM (53CCM)
I guess the shooter just aimed in the general direction of the massed police officers and hoped for the best.
That's my take. But to get two hits from what I think was just a handful of shots is pretty good ranging.
I'm wondering if the shooter had done some prep practicing long distance pistol shots.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 12, 2015 01:39 PM (JtwS4)
So what you're saying is, this was all a carefully crafted plan to boost tourism in North St. Louis County? All sarcasm aside, that's the way a prog mind works.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 12, 2015 01:39 PM (5buP8)
are kept stupid low for the tickets.
That's not the only reason for speed limits, you know. Pedestrians and highway speeds don't mix well.
It's more fun to believe the only reason you can't vroom 75 mph down MLK Blvd bouncing the kids from Springfield Elementary off your hood (should they somehow manage to be allowed to walk more than 30 feet without someone calling CPS) is tyrannical oppression, but it's never the only reason.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 12, 2015 01:39 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Soothsayer
When you elect a guy who has made a living stirring up the neighborhood bulljive (a community organizer - self labeled), that is exactly what you get.
"Punch back twice as hard!!" It's not him out there with his life on the line.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... waiting for spring at March 12, 2015 01:40 PM (RFeQD)
There was a black kid at our high school.
He never rioted or shot anyone.
Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2015 01:41 PM (9ZZd+)
Posted by: The South at March 12, 2015 01:41 PM (J6suc)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 12, 2015 01:41 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 12, 2015 01:42 PM (OQjlM)
Posted by: NSA Bob at March 12, 2015 01:42 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Reince Priebus at March 12, 2015 01:42 PM (lG2E3)
They have hired someone they cannot fire. I hope he drags them further into the abyss
Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 12, 2015 01:42 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 12, 2015 01:41 PM (0FSuD)
It would take days to lay out each cartridge on tables to show how they saved the world from you.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 12, 2015 01:43 PM (WNERA)
I'm sure they weren't.
I'm also just as sure that the attackees (or people supporting them) were considered "more authentically" Mohammedan than the attackers.
Though, with Iran, it's still just possible that real justice (or a semblance of it) was done. Because despite the ayatollahs and their President, much of the populace of Iran still hasn't gone completely insane.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 01:43 PM (kff5f)
Yeah, but when you live near a limited access highway that has speed limits varying from 55 mph to 45 mph for no reason other than to set up speed traps, when most modern automobiles are capable of safely cruising at 75, it's a little bit about the revenue, no?
I mean, I see that everywhere. You're cruising along, speed limit 55, then all of a sudden, speed limit is 45 and a bunch of cops are hiding behind the tree that covers the speed limit sign.
Then 2 miles later, back up to 55 mph.
Weird, right?
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:43 PM (AkOaV)
Now in most of those situations you'll see 75. 65. 55. 45. 35. 45.55.65.75.
Not in this bullshit town though. Right at the edge of town, far after you've past the last building, the speed limit ramps up but it doesn't follow the normal rules. You see 35, 45, 55, 55, 75. So, of course, people from out of town start accelerating once they see the 55 sign and get popped by the cop sitting at the second 55 sign.
It's a speed trap. Nothing more. No one is being protected. The town is suspiciously well maintained.
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 01:44 PM (MYCIw)
*The ONLY executive branch member to show ANY leadership on this. F'ng Nixon is AWOL, except for putting cronies on Ferguson Commission, each making 100k a year. And none of whom live anywhere near Ferguson.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 12, 2015 01:44 PM (5buP8)
The tox screen at autopsy may be totally useless in that it may not even bother to look for certain of today's ghetto drugs of abuse.
Saint Trayvon of the Bloodied Hoodie had noted on social media his fondness for "purple drank", and he had been obtaining (shoplifting) some of the over the counter ingredients for it at the convenience store before his encounter with Zimmerman.
The medical examiner didn't even bother to look for DXM or metabolites in the corpse.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2015 01:44 PM (noWW6)
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As my dad always said," You are never too poor to have a clean and picked up yard"
Posted by: Chilling the most at March 12, 2015 01:44 PM (zW5rQ)
Then 2 miles later, back up to 55 mph.
I see you've been to Limestone NY
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 01:45 PM (sWgE+)
I've been watching CNN and this is barely registering. They're not even pretending to care like they did about the NYC cops.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 12, 2015 01:45 PM (Pww3C)
Posted by: brak at March 12, 2015 12:35 PM (Tj+s6)
this...but slavery of course so it evens out.
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 12, 2015 01:46 PM (JgQLj)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 12, 2015 01:46 PM (OQjlM)
Posted by: Lyin' Boner at March 12, 2015 01:47 PM (lG2E3)
I can set up six bowling pins at 100 yards, and will average 4 out of 6, with my S&W Model 28, 4" bbl., with 148 gr. full-wadcutter ammo.
Trajectory like a rainbow. Takes about a 20 inch holdover. Using .357 Mag, that'd reduce to about a 12" holdover.
But then, I've got an abnormally high skill level with said revolver.
I'll say it again. Ten officers standing together, constitute at least an eight foot wide, eight foot deep, consolidated target area.
There was no true marksmanship involved here.
Just some scumbag taking three potshots at a target half the size of a car, firing from well behind the main crowd.
He got lucky on 2 out of 3 shots.
Had it been a rifle, the cop shot in the face would be in critical condition, at best. The officer hit in the shoulder would be missing a baseball chunk of tissue, likely some bone, and still be in the ICU.
Punk. With a pistol. And no remarkable skills.
That, you can take to the bank.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at March 12, 2015 01:47 PM (7x4lH)
Outside of town the speed limit is 55. Once you get to the sign, it goes to 25.
Near as I can tell, this is what funds the town.
Posted by: @JohnTant at March 12, 2015 01:47 PM (eytER)
Immediately after the shooting the press releases were issued about this 'incident' by a 'standalone' shooter should distract from the peaceful protests and what they're trying to achieve.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 12, 2015 01:47 PM (Pww3C)
Posted by: Elmer Keith at March 12, 2015 01:48 PM (eytER)
Then 2 miles later, back up to 55 mph.
I see you've been to Limestone NY
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 01:45 PM (sWgE+)
Waldo, Starke, and Lawtey, Florida. All notorious speed trap towns.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 12, 2015 01:48 PM (2Ojst)
Would love to know the caliber of a rifle that won't blow someone's face off at only 100+ yards.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 01:48 PM (VlPbv)
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 12, 2015 01:48 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 12, 2015 01:48 PM (0Ew3K)
Another classmate was outraged that this kid was wearing such an insensitive shirt and flew off the rails yelling. "Yo queero Taco Bell? I have gay friends!" he screamed. "That shirt is not funny!"
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 01:48 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at March 12, 2015 01:34 PM (scgac)
"African"-Americans..."Mexican"
-Americans.. "Indian"-Americans..
You mean those "Americans"? The ones who treat "American" as purely geographic location? I share your idealistic enthusiasm, but I'm also realistic. Most don't want to be here, to them its a gravy train.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 12, 2015 01:49 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2015 01:44 PM (MYCIw)
Right. And in my experience, most rapid speed changes like that are for revenue, not safety.
I understand going down to 35 or whatever when going through a town. But if you ever drive on the Eastern Shore of Virginia, near the Maryland line, they have the best example of a speed trap I've ever seen.
Similar to what you describe.
Speed limit is 65. You approach a sort-of town with a few stop lights where the speed limit drops to 45. Fine, no problem there.
Then as soon as your through town, it hops back up to 65. Makes sense so far.
Then, for a stretch of road thats about a mile long, it drops back down to 45. No city around, no people there, no one would expect it to drop. But there is a small hill behind which cops hide and pull over cars en masse.
Then, 1/2 a mile past the hill, back up to 65 for the rest of the drive.
I'm sure the people from around there know the stretch I'm talking about. You'll see the cops have 3-4 cars with out of state tags pulled over at all times.
They probably fund half the town with that stupid hill and speed limit trick.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:49 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 12, 2015 01:49 PM (WNERA)
Hey! Why did the tilapia cross the road?
Posted by: a pollock at March 12, 2015 01:50 PM (J6suc)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 12, 2015 01:50 PM (OQjlM)
along, speed limit 55, then all of a sudden, speed limit is 45 and a
bunch of cops are hiding behind the tree that covers the speed limit
sign.
Then 2 miles later, back up to 55 mph.
Weird, right?
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:43 PM (AkOaV)
Yep, see that all the time. Blame the politicians. They either order that this be done, or turn a blind eye to it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2015 01:50 PM (uO0Po)
.22 Short?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 01:50 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 12, 2015 01:48 PM (0Ew3K)
It's not a civil war, per se. I think a war takes two sides.
It's more like a one-sided hate fest.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:50 PM (AkOaV)
Well, it becomes clear that nicey, nice only stokes up these zealots.
Posted by: Drider at March 12, 2015 01:50 PM (35b4v)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 12, 2015 01:48 PM (0Ew3K)
This is the sort of aggressive incisiveness that will guarantee the continued dominance of the Left in American culture. Tut-tut.
Posted by: Bitch McConnell, Conservative Stalwart at March 12, 2015 01:50 PM (lG2E3)
What if some left wing loon atheist gun nut, like the one who killed those muslims, assassinates one of those 47 Republican senators for treason?
I think it's a matter of when, not if, myself. But it will happen exactly for the bullshit reasons why the Left/media said Goofy Giffords was shot.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 12, 2015 01:50 PM (Pww3C)
Posted by: Heralder at March 12, 2015 01:51 PM (/Mxso)
Or the ones that see the American Flag as a sign of racism and mistreatment?
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 01:51 PM (sWgE+)
Quote: "Learn Spanish & STFU". Unquote.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 01:51 PM (VlPbv)
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That's a fightable ticket. If you are approaching a lower speed limit, you have the "expectation" to be going that speed by the time you pass the sign. Courts (in some states, at least) have upheld the reciprocal--you have the "expectation" to be going the speed posted by the time you pass it.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 12, 2015 01:52 PM (VAsIq)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2015 01:50 PM (uO0Po)
Yeah. Politicians want it done, so they hire a crony company to do a "survey" of the area and decide the speed limit needs to drop in a certain area for whatever bullshit reason.
Then they get a bunch of cops to testify at the town meeting about how unsafe that area is, and how the speed limit NEEDS to be dropped.
Then they tell the cops to go out and set up their speed trap and bring in the big money with the promise of giving the cops cool new toys.
Everyone wins.
Well, except the people driving through.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:52 PM (AkOaV)
What will happen soon, I believe, is a high level Republican will be assassinated for opposition to weather control, or homosexuality, or for being a racist about obama.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 12, 2015 01:52 PM (Pww3C)
Posted by: Drider at March 12, 2015 01:53 PM (35b4v)
Well, a lot of these marginal tickets are fightable.
Which is why they don't usually ticket locals. Only people from out of state who aren't going to drive back to bumblefukc to go to court to fight a ticket. Easier to just pay it.
Locals do fight these speed trap tickets, and a lot of times they get dropped. Either because a) the cop didnt show up to court, because why would he and b) the judge is sympathetic with the (local) drivers situation.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 01:54 PM (AkOaV)
Pretty much. And that's it. Anything larger and it's bagpipes and Amazing Grace time.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2015 01:54 PM (VlPbv)
limits varying from 55 mph to 45 mph for no reason other than to set up
speed traps
Around here there's always an obvious reason for a change in speed limit--a school or bus stop, a crossroad, a change number of lanes.
Maybe you should slow down and look.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 12, 2015 01:54 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Drider at March 12, 2015 01:54 PM (35b4v)
I've always heard the opposite. That the speed limit sign constituted the beginning of a zone of highway where a certain speed was acceptable and that anything up to regulated by the previous speed limit zone.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2015 01:54 PM (LA7Cm)
Bwaaa-haaa!
Everyone I knew at my HS would have gone out that night and bought the same T-Shirt to wear the very next day.
I played Tuba in the marching band, and the tuba players banded together as "the Tuba Corps." We found that as long as we *all* did something subversive, we couldn't get in trouble for it.
So we had our own band t-shirts made up. One year, we chose the Bud Ice Penguin, holding a Sousaphone singing "doobie-doobie-dooooo" with "Have you seen a Tuba Today?" on the back.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 01:54 PM (kff5f)
Anyone here will recognize the sound of a pistol being fired at close range to the recording device as opposed to a pistol or rifle 100+ yards away.
The shots came from the crowd in the street.
Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2015 01:55 PM (9ZZd+)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 12, 2015 01:56 PM (OQjlM)
It takes two to fight.
Because when only one person does it, it's called "a beating."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 01:56 PM (kff5f)
Oh, Im sure they have people lined up to point out the shooters..
Posted by: Drider at March 12, 2015 01:56 PM (35b4v)
The speedtrap of Limestone NY is on a 4 lane crossing the PA/NY border on the way to the casino in Salamanca NY about 10 miles away. Trying to get some of the money before the Indians get it all.
Posted by: wrg500 at March 12, 2015 01:57 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 01:54 PM (kff5f)
Fuck, Allen, we didn't know you were such a Gangsta.
BadAss.
Posted by: jwest at March 12, 2015 01:57 PM (9ZZd+)
That's about as "gangsta" as things in Cleburne, TX ever got back in the mid-to-late 90s.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 01:58 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Judge Dredd at March 12, 2015 01:59 PM (F192H)
Posted by: John Boner in Assless Chaps at March 12, 2015 01:59 PM (lG2E3)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at March 12, 2015 01:59 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Ferguson Tourist Office at March 12, 2015 02:02 PM (j1Wvr)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 12, 2015 02:03 PM (OQjlM)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 12, 2015 01:54 PM (/kI1Q)
I do, I have a clean driving record. I'm paranoid about speed traps.
Only time I got a ticket was in VA, where they have a case of the literally's. I got pulled over for going 63 in a 60. And when I pulled over, I stopped in front of the 65 MPH sign, which was a mile away from the 60 mph sign.
Ticket got dropped because I was so ripshit I actually showed up to court and fought it.
Posted by: mynewhandle at March 12, 2015 02:03 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2015 02:08 PM (W3hdj)
They also want a parallel and independent city council, with all black city councillors, black city legal counsel, and a black mayor.
___________________
Maybe they'd be happier if they just returned to their ancestral homeland of Africa and set up their own country. They could call it "Liberia" or some such.
I bet it would be a paradise in no time!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 12, 2015 02:08 PM (lmdHn)
Holder came out and gave a statement about the shootings calling them reprehensible, etc. Meanwhile, Holder wants to "dismantle" the FPD. Let him dismantle it, the officers there will be hired in other local districts and let the DOJ figure who and how that town will be policed. I am sure that in the meanwhile, hilarity will ensue.
Good Luck.
Posted by: Cheri at March 12, 2015 02:09 PM (G+Wff)
Posted by: Ferguson Tourist Office at March 12, 2015 02:10 PM (j1Wvr)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 12, 2015 02:11 PM (OQjlM)
I once fired a snubbie 38 special at a gong from 150 yards or more. You don't have to hold over all that much even at that distance. 125 feet into a crowd is very doable with a pistol IMHO.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 12, 2015 02:11 PM (Z5E4S)
Posted by: TexasDan at March 12, 2015 02:15 PM (Z5E4S)
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 12, 2015 02:15 PM (W3hdj)
Posted by: Ferguson Tourist Office at March 12, 2015 02:17 PM (j1Wvr)
Posted by: TexasDan at March 12, 2015 02:11 PM (Z5E4S)
Agreed. That guy's comment about needing a rifle with a scope at 100 yards is just ridiculous.
Posted by: troyriser at March 12, 2015 02:17 PM (q/891)
Not once has he taken the opportunity to lead or calm things by example or words. Our post racial President has not missed a single chance to fan the flames of hatred and split Americans apart. He lectures us and eggs on the useful idiots. Oh, and BTW, think he will offer any sincere thoughts about the two officers shot by the supporters of the gentle giant?
Maybe it's just me, but even in Selma last week, he couldn't keep it positive; he seemed to focus on how things are still bad, not the progress made.
Race is a large part of it for him, but he did the same thing with Sandy Hook, and with the Giffords shooting.
He has a lot to answer for. A lot.
Posted by: RM at March 12, 2015 02:26 PM (fRppw)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 12, 2015 02:59 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 12, 2015 03:06 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 12, 2015 03:08 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: Titanium at March 12, 2015 04:11 PM (aC0FU)
Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at March 12, 2015 04:59 PM (c04Om)
Eric Holder has informed us that the Police Department in Ferguson, Missouri isn't really a police department. They're just a bunch of armed racists, a "gang" holding up black people for fines to keep the government thick with dollar bills, while hiding behind their badges. They're not real cops. They're a racist gang of armed criminal extortionists.
And we're not allowed to shoot such "people?"
Posted by: someguy at March 12, 2015 06:23 PM (3z91g)
Defenestrate Holder, El Caudillo, et al. STAT for whipping up race riots over a passel of LIES.
/spit
BTW: let's hope that the victims of their hideous politics sue them from here to hell and back. Since there's no other check on their abuses of power.
Posted by: Beverly at March 12, 2015 10:54 PM (nkeje)
Posted by: Beverly at March 12, 2015 10:54 PM (nkeje)
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