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Overnight Open Thread (3-9-2015) - Cop Out Edition

Due to hard deadlines and me feeling under the weather you'll get the highly-condensed-but-legally-still-a-contractual ONT. And early to boot!

Because even a lesser piece by Kipling still has more hard-won human wisdom in it than most of what's published in any given year. This comes via Moe Lane.

The Truce of the Bear

Yearly, with tent and rifle, our careless white men go
By the Pass called Muttianee, to shoot in the vale below.
Yearly by Muttianee he follows our white men in -
Matun, the old blind beggar, bandaged from brow to chin.

Eyeless, noseless, and lipless - toothless, broken of speech,
Seeking a dole at the doorway he mumbles his tale to each;
Over and over the story, ending as he began:
"Make ye no truce with Adam-zad - the Bear that walks like a Man!

"There was a flint in my musket - pricked and primed was the pan,
When I went hunting Adam-zad - the Bear that stands like a Man.
I looked my last on the timber, I looked my last on the snow,
When I went hunting Adam-zad fifty summers ago!

"I knew his times and his seasons, as he knew mine, that fed
By night in the ripened maizefield and robbed my house of bread.
I knew his strength and cunning, as he knew mine, that crept
At dawn to the crowded goat-pens and plundered while I slept.

"Up from his stony playground - down from his well-digged lair -
Out on the naked ridges ran Adam-zad the Bear -
Groaning, grunting, and roaring, heavy with stolen meals,
Two long marches to northward, and I was at his heels!

"Two long marches to northward, at the fall of the second night,
I came on mine enemy Adam-zad all panting from his flight.
There was a charge in the musket - pricked and primed was the pan -
My finger crooked on the trigger - when he reared up like a man.

"Horrible, hairy, human, with paws like hands in prayer,
Making his supplication rose Adam-zad the Bear!
I looked at the swaying shoulders, at the paunch's swag and swing,
And my heart was touched with pity for the monstrous, pleading thing.

"Touched witth pity and wonder, I did not fire then . . .
I have looked no more on women - I have walked no more with men.
Nearer he tottered and nearer, with paws like hands that pray -
From brow to jaw that steel-shod paw, it ripped my face away!

"Sudden, silent, and savage, searing as flame the blow -
Faceless I fell before his feet, fifty summers ago.
I heard him grunt and chuckle - I heard him pass to his den.
He left me blind to the darkened years and the little mercy of men.

"Now ye go down in the morning with guns of the newer style,
That load (I have felt) in the middle and range (I have heard) a mile?
Luck to the white man's rifle, that shoots so fast and true,
But - pay, and I lift my bandage and show what the Bear can do!"

(Flesh like slag in the furnace, knobbed and withered and grey -
Matun, the old blind beggar, he gives good worth for his pay.)
"Rouse him at noon in the bushes, follow and press him hard -
Not for his ragings and roarings flinch ye from Adam-zad.

"But (pay, and I put back the bandage) this is the time to fear,
When he stands up like a tired man, tottering near and near;
When he stands up as pleading, in wavering, man-brute guise,
When he veils the hate and cunning of his little, swinish eyes;

"When he shows as seeking quarter, with paws like hands in prayer
That is the time of peril - the time of the Truce of the Bear!"

Eyeless, noseless, and lipless, asking a dole at the door,
Matun, the old blind beggar, he tells it o'er and o'er;
Fumbling and feeling the rifles, warming his hands at the flame,
Hearing our careless white men talk of the morrow's game;

Over and over the story, ending as he began: -
"There is no truce with Adam-zad, the Bear that looks like a Man!"

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Tonight's post brought to you by my name is Megan:

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Comments

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1 First!

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 09, 2015 09:13 PM (0NdlF)

2 Whoa!

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:14 PM (9BRsg)

3 So, wtf does Megan eat??

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 09:14 PM (OsWis)

4 as first as I'm ever gong to get

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 09, 2015 09:15 PM (z+4T3)

5 8 o clock. Holy smeg.

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 09, 2015 09:15 PM (6n332)

6 Hey, Megan. All sugars end in -ose.

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:15 PM (9BRsg)

7 Hey now! What are we drinkin?!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 09, 2015 09:15 PM (60Vyp)

8
So, Michael Caine is carrying around Sean Connery's head, again? What was the purpose of that? So the muzzies woldnt use it as a soccer ball?

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 09, 2015 09:15 PM (iQIUe)

9 It's 5 o'clock somewhere!

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:15 PM (9BRsg)

10 A Blow Against Duo-Normative Oppression!

Courts in the United States have struck blows against duo-normative oppression, and the vanguard against duo-normative oppression has been from the United States... but the true victory for non-duo-normative values comes from... Thailand!

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=8616

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 09, 2015 09:16 PM (0Ew3K)

11 Megan, I'll pay for your dinner... across the street

Posted by: Restaurant Owner at March 09, 2015 09:16 PM (LoIJo)

12 I'm guessing Megan don't eat tube steak either.

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 09, 2015 09:16 PM (6n332)

13 that sure as fuck aint Megan McCain.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 09:16 PM (ucDmr)

14 That explains the "centrist" problems in the comments earlier...

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 09, 2015 09:16 PM (VAsIq)

15 12th?

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:16 PM (EgOr3)

16 Poor Megan. Poor poor Megan. No not her, my cousin. I just saw on facebook shes sad.

Posted by: People Corp at March 09, 2015 09:17 PM (TzeLs)

17 That pic looks like it was taken in a restaurant kitchen. Funny, she doesn't list any allergies to spit or pubic hair.

Posted by: Average Guy at March 09, 2015 09:17 PM (KPgOB)

18 PEACHES! How's it hanging, gal?

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:17 PM (9BRsg)

19 The bear is loose truce.






... with Iran.

Posted by: Beary Obama at March 09, 2015 09:17 PM (c+Y7q)

20 Hey now! What are we drinkin?!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 09, 2015 09:15 PM (60Vyp)

*****

Mmmmm...Beer....

Evening all. Holy Stompy ONT.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015 09:17 PM (XrHO0)

21 Okay, lovemonkeys, I just sent this to Maet, but I cannot contain myself. Perhaps you've seen it but here's the truth about daylight saving time (may it roast on a spit in hell):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br0NW9ufUUw

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:17 PM (EgOr3)

22 -zad(eh) is the Iranian way of saying "descendant of". Like "Ibn Saud" in Arabic or "Atre-ides" in Greek.

Adamzad is, then, TS Eliot's "son of man".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 09, 2015 09:17 PM (AVEe1)

23 Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:15 PM

I LOVE the version of that song when Buffet and Alan Jackson sing it together.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 09, 2015 09:18 PM (60Vyp)

24 Hi peaches!

Posted by: fluffy at March 09, 2015 09:18 PM (Ua6T/)

25 So, who is Brock's boyfriend? He's not very attractive with those chubby cheeks and gray hair. Looks like grandma.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 09, 2015 09:18 PM (iQIUe)

26 ONT for a few minutes, then bed. 4:30am comes way too freaking early.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 09:18 PM (KuU4f)

27 Megan is a Brit.

Look at the spelling of yogurt.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 09, 2015 09:19 PM (SXYle)

28 26>> Workin on my last jar of preserves... *buuuurp*

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 09, 2015 09:19 PM (60Vyp)

29 Hi, guys!!! I am gobsmacked to see an early ONT tonight, as I wasn't sure I could stay turgid until later. Been quite a crazy past month. I just wanna give you all belly-shmooshes. mwah, mwah, mwah.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:19 PM (EgOr3)

30 >>I LOVE the version of that song when Buffet and Alan Jackson sing it together.

I never really followed Jimmy Buffet (but I have friends who do), so I didn't realize at first that the song was Alan Jackson's brainchild. I thought it was a Jimmy Buffet standard.

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:20 PM (9BRsg)

31 Megan needs bacon.

Posted by: fluffy at March 09, 2015 09:20 PM (Ua6T/)

32 Hi My Name is Megan, and I should stay at home to Eat.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 09:20 PM (KuU4f)

33 Not allergic to chicken, pig, or beef.

Though I seriously doubt anyone's actually allergic to glucose.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 09, 2015 09:21 PM (0NdlF)

34 As a physician, I have concluded that one's number of purported allergies is directly proportional the the degree of manifest neurosis.

Posted by: Molon Labe at March 09, 2015 09:21 PM (IU5o4)

35 Megan is a Brit. Look at the spelling of yogurt.

More likely an American attempting to sound sophisticated and European.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 09, 2015 09:21 PM (AVEe1)

36 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 09, 2015 09:19 PM (60Vyp)


Spring is coming! I plan on making more this year. We're just about out of apricot and I absolutely have to make more strawberry this year too, with spring berries.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 09:21 PM (KuU4f)

37 Is that a real thing? If I was presented that card, I would tell Megan to go home and fix herself a sammich.

Posted by: no good deed at March 09, 2015 09:22 PM (ZKGnj)

38 Megan needs to be fisted by a Value-Rite Hobo, pronto!

What, too soon?

Posted by: Dirty Randy at March 09, 2015 09:22 PM (xOu6p)

39 Hi My Name is Megan and I am Allergic to DNA.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 09:22 PM (KuU4f)

40 David Brock played in A Crock of Seagulls.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 09, 2015 09:23 PM (W5DcG)

41 If Megan's diet is so severely restricted, how did she ever manage to be so full of shit?

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:23 PM (EgOr3)

42 Megan needs to be fisted by a Value-Rite Hobo, pronto! What, too soon?

Too late. *files nails*

I really should wash my hands, though.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 09, 2015 09:23 PM (AVEe1)

43 41 If Megan's diet is so severely restricted, how did she ever manage to be so full of shit?
Posted by: Peaches


NICE!

Posted by: Dirty Randy at March 09, 2015 09:23 PM (xOu6p)

44 30>> Yeah I'm not a parrot head but I do enjoy some JB at times. Now Stevie Ray Vaughn, Robert Cray, Albert King, Muddy Waters, Aretha Franklin.... and most things 80's...yeah.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 09, 2015 09:24 PM (60Vyp)

45 3 So, wtf does Megan eat??

Posted by: SMFH
-------------------------
A bag of gluten-free dicks?
And, hi, beautiful.


And Hi to you too, Peaches!

Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 09:24 PM (hQhus)

46 Hey Megan, I see you're not allergic to cigars ... or baby batter!

Posted by: Bubba Clinton at March 09, 2015 09:24 PM (qbJK5)

47 Meghan is allergic to crabs.

Guess I'm out.

Posted by: BJ Clinton at March 09, 2015 09:25 PM (c+Y7q)

48 Megan might as well eat dirt and be done with it.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 09, 2015 09:25 PM (QqWOP)

49 Tough shit, Megan.


I mean that, just a shitty, as it reads.


Pound it.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizarroland at March 09, 2015 09:25 PM (lY1vf)

50 Hey, Megan. All sugars end in -ose.

Sugar doesn't end in -ose. Like, duh!

Posted by: Megan isn't allergic to Science at March 09, 2015 09:25 PM (Q819Q)

51 It says Megan is allergic to nuts, does that mean she is allergic to nut juice?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper formerly MrCaniac at March 09, 2015 09:26 PM (+Fae7)

52 42 Megan needs to be fisted by a Value-Rite Hobo, pronto! What, too soon?

Too late. *files nails*

I really should wash my hands, though.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo


HEH! You fucking hobo's.... God Love Ya!

Posted by: Dirty Randy at March 09, 2015 09:26 PM (xOu6p)

53 heya chi!

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 09:26 PM (OsWis)

54 I do enjoy some JB at times

I think you mighta spelt that wrong, COJ!

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:26 PM (EgOr3)

55 WooHoo Peaches is here. Good to see you.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 09, 2015 09:26 PM (dkExz)

56 I will be willing to bet Megans a spitter for sure. who would date someone that effed in the head?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 09:26 PM (ucDmr)

57 Hey, Megan, you're not allergic to a big loogie in your soup, non?

Posted by: The waiter and/or the cook at March 09, 2015 09:26 PM (fFLZP)

58 Nice chart. Ferguson is about perfectly average. And, as Obama and Holder and the SJWs will tell us - average is racist.

Steve Sailer @Steve_Sailer 4m
Black/white arrest ratios: Ferguson is Averageville, USA http://www.unz.com/isteve/blackwhite-arrest-ratios-ferguson-is-averageville-usa/

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 09, 2015 09:26 PM (ZPrif)

59 Love the vid on Daylight Saving time. Dumb fvckers. We don't gain any day light. It's like cutting off the top of your blanket and sewing it to the bottom so it will cover your feet.

Posted by: Infidel at March 09, 2015 09:27 PM (jwcHC)

60 so, okay, who is this Dirty Randy? new 'ron or just a new nic on an old friend? dammit, I need to catch up - somebody help an ol' lady across the street, eh?

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:27 PM (EgOr3)

61 Uh isn't it impossible for any sugar to not end in -ose? I thought that was what was the main identifier that a molecule is a sugar.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 09, 2015 09:27 PM (YSfx4)

62 Astonishing how ignorant some choose to be. Disease as a fad--- notice not many folks think it cool to be diabetic.

Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade, stranded with the fruits and nuts in Krazyfornia at March 09, 2015 09:27 PM (cmBvC)

63 Peanut. Hazelnut. Cashew nut. Macadamia nut.

Posted by: Harlan Pepper at March 09, 2015 09:27 PM (VAsIq)

64 Peaches how are you liking the new season of survivor.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 09, 2015 09:28 PM (YSfx4)

65 I cared for one (out of thousands) child who could not absorb fructose. It gave her diarrhea. Very unusual. Her mother struggled with other people feeding her fruit- "it's natural"
Megan on the other hand is nuts

Posted by: lurking grandma at March 09, 2015 09:28 PM (gpW36)

66 Wait--It's Daylight Savings Time but the ONT is earlier? I'm confused.

Posted by: rickl at March 09, 2015 09:28 PM (sdi6R)

67 I'm guessing Megan don't eat tube steak either.

She does, but only when her girlfriend isn't around to find out.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 09, 2015 09:28 PM (eClkt)

68 Disease as a fad--- notice not many folks think it cool to be diabetic.

I thought Ebola was going to be all the rage but people lost interest.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 09, 2015 09:29 PM (QqWOP)

69 daylight savings time sucks. Pick one and stay with it assclowns. oh, I forgot, it's for the chirrins.can't get on the bus in the dark.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 09:29 PM (ucDmr)

70 Megan. She don't eat meat but she sure likes the bone.

Posted by: Deadeye Dick at March 09, 2015 09:29 PM (ZKGnj)

71 It's just me, Peaches...nobody special..... been a lurker for years, been posting a bit at work for a while, first time being here after hours....... ya got a nice place here, ya Late Night Morons!

Posted by: Dirty Randy at March 09, 2015 09:29 PM (xOu6p)

72 Disease as a fad--

Sounds like a bug chaser.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 09, 2015 09:30 PM (W5DcG)

73 Astonishing how ignorant some choose to be. Disease as a fad--- notice not many folks think it cool to be diabetic.
Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade, stranded with the fruits and nuts in Krazyfornia at March 09, 2015 09:27 PM (cmBvC)


We're making a comeback baby!

Posted by: AIDS in the gay community at March 09, 2015 09:30 PM (eClkt)

74 Infidel- HA!

Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 09, 2015 09:30 PM (i7JE3)

75 good to see you Peaches.

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 09:30 PM (ahBY0)

76 Oh Megan shmegan.

I didn't see anything about bacon on her forbidden list, so she's fine.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 09, 2015 09:30 PM (1Y+hH)

77 Pick one and stay with it assclowns.

Yeah. DST year round would suit me. Hell, we barely have 4 months of standard time as it is.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 09, 2015 09:30 PM (QqWOP)

78 Food allergy vs. food intolerance: What's the difference? - http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/food-allergy/expert-answers/food-allergy/faq-20058538

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:30 PM (9BRsg)

79 Megan. She don't eat meat but she sure likes the bone.

Posted by: Deadeye Dick at March 09, 2015 09:29 PM (ZKGnj)


Nice one hit wonder.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 09:30 PM (KuU4f)

80 BUZZ!!!!! I was just going to ask you about Survivor! I was soooo happy to have it back. And I am loving it so far. Joe, of course, is awesome. That fucker Vince, man, what was up with him?? I do hope that Joachim sticks around - hate his team but I enjoy feasting my eyes on him. The white collar team are such losers, mostly. My money's on blue collar.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:31 PM (EgOr3)

81 I want to know why her name is on the card like an introduction. Why would the kitchen staff care?

"WTF? Who's this for? Who the fuck is Megan?"

"Oh, that's from table 9."

"Well, it should read... Hi, I'm the frizzy haired bint from table 9."

Posted by: otho at March 09, 2015 09:31 PM (tBSrv)

82 I'm allergic to dick.

Posted by: Hillary! at March 09, 2015 09:31 PM (EDYaR)

83 Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:26 PM

Heh! Now the Grumpy Grandma wants to know why I need a refill on the scotch and a new monitor.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 09, 2015 09:32 PM (60Vyp)

84 Who is this Megan person? Does she like really dry jerky?

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 09, 2015 09:32 PM (92L+g)

85 So. Megan. Do you ever eat anything with a face? Hmmm?

Posted by: Eromero at March 09, 2015 09:32 PM (go5uR)

86 I think Megan is really Mary Cloggenstein.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 09:32 PM (ucDmr)

87 Early ONT Woot woot.

Sorry to hear you aren't feeling well Maet.
Get well soon

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 09:33 PM (fIzos)

88 So, this is the vaunted Undernight Thread?

Up till now, I'd only heard of the rumors of it's existence.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 09, 2015 09:33 PM (RzZOc)

89 Woman Purged from Gym Membership for Expressing Thoughtcrime

A member of Planet Fitness gym was purged from membership for being insufficiently enlightened with proper thinking. What was the throughtcrime that Yvette Cormier committed? Simply expressing concern that a man was using the women's and she felt unsafe that a "penis person" could stroll around naked with unwilling naked women.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=8637

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 09, 2015 09:33 PM (0Ew3K)

90 >>85 So. Megan. Do you ever eat anything with a face? Hmmm?

I had a friend who would only eat sea creatures that had distinct eyes.

I thought that was a pretty funny category to choose. Why not just say: I don't eat mollusks.

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:34 PM (9BRsg)

91 Hey MH.

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 09:34 PM (ahBY0)

92 Megan, do you like movies about gladiators?

Posted by: Roger Oveur at March 09, 2015 09:34 PM (VAsIq)

93 Megan, may I introduce you to breatharianism. I have the feeling it may be right up your alley.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 09, 2015 09:34 PM (AC0lD)

94 welcome to the new de-lurker, great nic. hey, dartist!!! it is just warming the cockles of my hard little heart to be back among the horde. it was like being without oxygen. or beer. my dad's computer is probably recycled from North Korea or Haiti. I mean, it just was more damn trouble than it was worth and click-wise, reminiscent of the dial-up days.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:34 PM (EgOr3)

95 60 so, okay, who is this Dirty Randy? new 'ron or just a new nic on an old friend? dammit, I need to catch up - somebody help an ol' lady across the street, eh?

Posted by: Peaches
-------------------------
You have a lot to catch up on, but I feel like we need to catch up with you - I'm almost afraid to ask the two questions on my mind...

I'll start. SMFH has a MAJOR crush on me. I know - crazy, right? Really, just ask her...

Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 09:34 PM (hQhus)

96 otho "Oh, that's from table 9."

Uh, we didn't exactly invite her here. She was sort of introduced, I guess, by an acquaintance who's long gone now. Now she just won't LEAVE.

Posted by: the mutants at table 9 at March 09, 2015 09:34 PM (AVEe1)

97 Megan doesn't eat "sugars ending in -ose"?

Well that explains everything, her brain is starved for fuel

Posted by: chemjeff at March 09, 2015 09:34 PM (ama0L)

98 Megan is my sister in law. She goes by a differnt name though. She claims she can't eat 99 % of things. She is built like a 2x4

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 09:34 PM (fIzos)

99 78 Don't get me started. There is a fringe element who thinks (for some reason) that there lives will be better if they have gluten allergy. Celiac disease is no joke, and research to define a new disease related to
"gluten allergies" is perplexing at best.

Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade, stranded with the fruits and nuts in Krazyfornia at March 09, 2015 09:35 PM (cmBvC)

100 89: That's a penis hate crime. Lock that cray cray woman up stat.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 09:35 PM (ucDmr)

101 Hey dartist

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 09:35 PM (fIzos)

102 *waves furiously at chemjeff*

Hey buddy!

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:36 PM (9BRsg)

103 This ONT is just wrong--I'm still at work.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 09, 2015 09:36 PM (VAsIq)

104 I can't believe that Megan didn't also list gluten.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 09, 2015 09:36 PM (lhyNL)

105 Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:31 PM (EgOr3)


Ugh, Vince. Everything about him made me cringe. Enjoy your career as a coconut salesman, creep.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 09:36 PM (KuU4f)

106 103
This ONT is just wrong--I'm still at work.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 09, 2015 09:36 PM (VAsIq)

Start drinking anyways....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 09, 2015 09:36 PM (AC0lD)

107 hi Y-not!

Posted by: chemjeff at March 09, 2015 09:36 PM (ama0L)

108 Uh, we didn't exactly invite her here. She was sort of introduced, I guess, by an acquaintance who's long gone now. Now she just won't LEAVE.
Posted by: the mutants at table 9 at March 09, 2015 09:34 PM (AVEe1)

*****

"Have you met Sidney, Jugdesh and Clayton? You have? Well then, you should have lots to talk about, eh!"

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015 09:37 PM (cIoI4)

109 Coffee beans aren't beans. They are dried berries.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 09:37 PM (Gm0Ay)

110 Megan puts the hurt in Yoghurt.

Posted by: Dave S. at March 09, 2015 09:37 PM (UvR6d)

111 SMFH has a MAJOR crush on me. I know - crazy, right? Really, just ask her...

Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 09:34 PM (hQhus)
well, honestly, chi, who doesn't? so very happy for you guys and, please, don't hesitate to name the first-born "peaches"

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:37 PM (EgOr3)

112 Does PGiS still stop by sometimes? I haven't seen her for ages, but I don't usually make the ONT.

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:37 PM (9BRsg)

113 56 I will be willing to bet Megans a spitter for sure. who would date someone that effed in the head?
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March

Jay Curler?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 09:38 PM (fIzos)

114 *narrows eyes*

brb...gotta go get something...sharp.

I seem to feel an urge for some head-stabbing...

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 09:38 PM (OsWis)

115 I can't believe that Megan didn't also list gluten.

That's why, even though I suspect she's American, I know she doesn't live in Boulder.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 09, 2015 09:38 PM (AVEe1)

116 Cutler

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 09:38 PM (fIzos)

117 Howdy, y'all!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 09, 2015 09:38 PM (T1005)

118 OK, I'll provide some ONT content. Click on each photo of 1944 Europe to see the same scene today:

https://tinyurl.com/p4t3xf6

Posted by: rickl at March 09, 2015 09:38 PM (sdi6R)

119 So, wtf does Megan eat??

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 09:14 PM (OsWis)


So pantyhose is right out, then?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 09:38 PM (Gm0Ay)

120 113: Jay Curler or his mom.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 09:39 PM (ucDmr)

121 Remember, any attribute, apart from conservatism/libertarianism, gives me more social capital. Sorry non-government-teat-seakers. Sucks to be you.

Posted by: Anyone with any problem ostensibly addressed by more government at March 09, 2015 09:39 PM (DtNNC)

122 Hiya, cooth!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 09:39 PM (KuU4f)

123 wait, what????

No babies. Sorry Peaches, but that train has long since passed.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 09:39 PM (OsWis)

124 Could someone explain to me why there is only p*ssy yogurt at stores (no fat low fat 0 fat), taste like crap.

Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade, stranded with the fruits and nuts in Krazyfornia at March 09, 2015 09:39 PM (cmBvC)

125 Megan eats hope...and young children.

Posted by: no good deed at March 09, 2015 09:39 PM (ZKGnj)

126 So, wtf does Megan eat??

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 09:14 PM (OsWis)

******
That guy Rachel Maddow?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015 09:40 PM (cIoI4)

127 Ugh, Vince. Everything about him made me cringe. Enjoy your career as a coconut salesman, creep.


Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 09:36 PM (KuU4f)
Oh, DG! When I saw the first one and he said he was a coconut *vendor* (get it right, eh?), I figured he lived in Hawaii. Later it said he was from Santa Monica. I have lived in and around Santa Moronica for over 35 years and I have NEVER seen a "coconut vendor." He probably hangs out with Cahrles Jhonson. They seem like they could be friends.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:40 PM (EgOr3)

128 If it's true that you are what you eat...then I'm a human being!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 09, 2015 09:40 PM (VAsIq)

129 Vaginal yarn is mighty tasty...

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 09, 2015 09:40 PM (92L+g)

130 The world's smallest drone:

http://www.popsci.com/look-tiny-drone-video

Posted by: rickl at March 09, 2015 09:40 PM (sdi6R)

131 well, honestly, chi, who doesn't?  so very happy for you guys and, please, don't hesitate to name the first-born "peaches" 

Posted by: Peaches
-------------------------
Well, if that were possible, I would fight for that name (a boy named Sue just came to mind).
And, I would pass out Parlies in the hallway.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 09:41 PM (hQhus)

132 Could someone explain to me why there is only p*ssy yogurt at stores (no fat low fat 0 fat), taste like crap.
---

I like Brown Cow Yogurt.

Some of the yogurts made with sheeps milk is fun, too.

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:41 PM (9BRsg)

133 130,

I just bought one of those.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 09:41 PM (OsWis)

134 I should specify, I like their cream top yogurt:

www.browncowfarm.com/our-yogurt/cream-top

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:42 PM (9BRsg)

135 Rudyard Kipling has just voiced the first radio ad for Hillarys Campaign! Here's the transcript...

"Flesh like slag in the furnace, knobbed and withered and grey..."


Huh. I was expecting more.

Posted by: Dirty Randy at March 09, 2015 09:42 PM (xOu6p)

136 Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:40 PM (EgOr3)


Whoops, my bad. Coconut "vendor". AKA LOOOOOOOOSEEEERRRRRRRRRRR.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 09:42 PM (KuU4f)

137 Could someone explain to me why there is only p*ssy yogurt at stores (no fat low fat 0 fat), taste like crap.

---

Gogurt!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 09, 2015 09:42 PM (VAsIq)

138 130 SMFH

I saw that clip a few days ago, looks cool (well, kinda cute), but what the heck does one *do* with it?!

Posted by: speedster1 on the (new) ipad at March 09, 2015 09:43 PM (1brdf)

139 Megans gonna die.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 09, 2015 09:43 PM (JgQLj)

140 Hard cider is my friend.

Also, someone asked about the owls...er...6 hours ago?

landingsbirdcam.com

Fuzzballs look suspiciously like owls now

Posted by: Brother Cavil, by the Pale Moon light at March 09, 2015 09:43 PM (m9V0o)

141 138,

Play with it....duh.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 09:44 PM (OsWis)

142 I saw that clip a few days ago, looks cool (well, kinda cute), but what the heck does one *do* with it?!

-----

Huma lost one of those in my....cave one time. It flew for over an hour without hitting anything.

Posted by: Hillary(!) at March 09, 2015 09:44 PM (VAsIq)

143 Vaginal yarn is mighty tasty...

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 09, 2015 09:40 PM (92L+g)

I don't know you but that is quite possibly the skeeviest thing I have ever read on this blog.
You got a newsletter?

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:44 PM (EgOr3)

144 15
12th?

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:16 PM (EgOr3)


PEACHES!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 09, 2015 09:44 PM (T1005)

145 Megans gonna die.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 09, 2015 09:43 PM (JgQLj)
probably not soon enough

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:44 PM (EgOr3)

146 Oh, and if you're going to spell yogurt with the aspirated Turkish / Arabic gh, I expect you to aspirate that gh. I want to hear you gurgle.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 09, 2015 09:45 PM (AVEe1)

147 I'm addicted to Greek Gods Honey Vanilla yogurt. I mix it with blueberries. YUM. It ain't no low fat stuff, either.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 09:45 PM (KuU4f)

148 I wonder what Megan Kelly can eat?

Posted by: Wisen Heimer at March 09, 2015 09:45 PM (RF++Q)

149 Hey, cth.
ignore that email, because, well - too late, I guess.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 09:45 PM (hQhus)

150 Not to be too contrary, but while it's 99% probably that this Mega girl(?) is just making stuff up, there are people with these types of deadly allergies.

Posted by: The Allergic Hat at March 09, 2015 09:45 PM (0Ew3K)

151 once upon a time, Megans did die.

Now we keep them alive for what, who the hell knows.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 09:45 PM (OsWis)

152 80 BUZZ!!!!! I was just going to ask you about Survivor! I was soooo happy to have it back. And I am loving it so far. Joe, of course, is awesome. That fucker Vince, man, what was up with him?? I do hope that Joachim sticks around - hate his team but I enjoy feasting my eyes on him. The white collar team are such losers, mostly. My money's on blue collar.
Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:31 PM (EgOr3)


Fuck the white collar tribe. Bunch of unethical stupid bastards. And they voted out the hottest girl on their tribe. All the tribes aren't that likable right now. The post worker on the blue collar needs to go.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 09, 2015 09:46 PM (YSfx4)

153 Oh yes Peaches you do, you do...

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 09, 2015 09:46 PM (92L+g)

154 Darwin's doing cartwheels in his grave over that allergy list.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 09, 2015 09:46 PM (ThxKk)

155 Y-not is correct (again). Brown Cow yogurt is the tits. I personally love the coffee flavor and the maple flavor. Untainted by fuckin' fruit. It's awesome!

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:46 PM (EgOr3)

156 **looks left**

**looks right**

**coast seems clear**


That tiny drone could totally be like Marine One in Alextopia.

Posted by: Moron living in fear the rest of the night at March 09, 2015 09:47 PM (c+Y7q)

157 Now, young Megan, you will die.
*zaps milk, egg, and sucrose from fingertips*

Posted by: Emperor Palpatine at March 09, 2015 09:47 PM (VAsIq)

158 I thought that was a pretty funny category to choose. Why not just say: I don't eat mollusks.

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:34 PM (9BRsg)


Octopi and squid have very distinct eyes, and they are molluscs, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 09:47 PM (Gm0Ay)

159 Hi My name is Cankles
I'm allergic to the truth, men, republicans, most women and kids

Posted by: Father Jones at March 09, 2015 09:47 PM (XYKz+)

160 Hillary Clinton we have the meats

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 09:47 PM (fIzos)

161 Not to be too contrary, but while it's 99% probably that this Mega girl(?) is just making stuff up, there are people with these types of deadly allergies.
---

I think the thing a lot of us object to is her making it OUR problem.

I'd also add that per the Mayo Clinic link, it sounds as if rarely they are actually allergies.

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:48 PM (9BRsg)

162 And why can I not find honey mead in Alabama? It's almost like the place is infested with no-fun Baptist poopyheads...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, by the Pale Moon light at March 09, 2015 09:48 PM (m9V0o)

163 Anyone got any real data on how many people have died from "Gluten Poisoning" over, say, the last 20 years?

Just asking, there.....

Posted by: GLUTEN at March 09, 2015 09:48 PM (xOu6p)

164
150 Not to be too contrary, but while it's 99% probably that this Mega girl(?) is just making stuff up, there are people with these types of deadly allergies.
Posted by: The Allergic Hat at March 09, 2015 09:45 PM (0Ew3K)



Oh absolutely. But I bet those that really do have it don't have a cutesy business card made up.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 09, 2015 09:48 PM (YSfx4)

165 >>Octopi and squid have very distinct eyes, and they are molluscs, too.

DAMN YOU AND YOUR SCIENCE!!! :-)

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:48 PM (9BRsg)

166 And why can I not find honey mead in Alabama? It's almost like the place is infested with no-fun Baptist poopyheads...

----

Bastards won't even let me dance.

Posted by: Kevin Bacon at March 09, 2015 09:49 PM (VAsIq)

167 Maple flavored yogurt? I must have this!!

Now I feel the urge to go to the store. At ten o'clock at night, when I should be asleep.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 09, 2015 09:49 PM (ThxKk)

168 That girl Megan has "issues."

Posted by: Bubble Boy at March 09, 2015 09:49 PM (9BRsg)

169 Huma is allergic to glucose, water, ATP, and oxygen. Poor thing.

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 09, 2015 09:49 PM (92L+g)

170 Anyone got any real data on how many people have died from "Gluten Poisoning" over, say, the last 20 years?

----

omg you are like, so rude. my cousin's roommate's sister's friend gets, like, real sick

Posted by: LIV at March 09, 2015 09:49 PM (VAsIq)

171 150 Not to be too contrary, but while it's 99% probably that this Mega girl(?) is just making stuff up, there are people with these types of deadly allergies.

She just needed to collect them all.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 09, 2015 09:50 PM (0NdlF)

172 And yes, pussy yogurt is a thing.

Because patriarchy: http://tinyurl.com/phtcfg4

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 09, 2015 09:50 PM (lhyNL)

173 At ten o'clock at night, when I should be asleep.
Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 09, 2015 09:49 PM (ThxKk)

Gosh, it's only 5:50 here.... But please, no yoghurt. If I wanted my milk rotten, I'd just leave it on the counter. Pour that maple syrup over your bacon instead.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 09, 2015 09:50 PM (+YMhA)

174 Watch me not click Hollowpoint's link.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 09, 2015 09:50 PM (AVEe1)

175 Maple flavored yogurt? I must have this!!

Now I feel the urge to go to the store. At ten o'clock at night, when I should be asleep.


Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 09, 2015 09:49 PM (ThxKk)
Yes! Hard to find, but Trader Joe's carries it. Don't buy the little puny ones, it comes in a big size. That's the ticket right there. I hate everything remotely good for me and I like that yogurt.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:51 PM (EgOr3)

176 Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:46 PM

Ooh, thanks for that tip. I've never tried the maple or coffee ones. Now, I shall!

Posted by: Bubble Boy at March 09, 2015 09:51 PM (9BRsg)

177 She just needed to collect them all.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 09, 2015 09:50 PM (0NdlF)

So, what in hell DOES she eat?

I'm guessing not any guys, to start with....

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 09, 2015 09:51 PM (+YMhA)

178 It says "Moops!"

/sock off

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:51 PM (9BRsg)

179 Moose? Oh, never mind.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 09, 2015 09:52 PM (+YMhA)

180 Coffee beans aren't beans. They are dried berries.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 09:37 PM (Gm0Ay)


Word.

Posted by: Civet who is poopiing out your hoity-toity coffee at March 09, 2015 09:52 PM (0Ew3K)

181 The correct response for Meghan, would've been for the Chef to send out a bowl of hot water, and a spoon.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 09, 2015 09:53 PM (RzZOc)

182 Yeah I'll pass on that vagigurt link, thanks.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 09:53 PM (KuU4f)

183 Watch me not click Hollowpoint's link.

It's safe for work (no pics), but sometimes words are even more disgusting.

This is one of those times.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 09, 2015 09:53 PM (lhyNL)

184 And yes, pussy yogurt is a thing.

Because patriarchy: http://tinyurl.com/phtcfg4

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 09, 2015 09:50 PM (lhyNL)

The mere presence of that link is contaminating the blog.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 09, 2015 09:54 PM (ThxKk)

185 FWIW, I have a son with potentially deadly allergies to fish and tree nuts (especially macadamia) and my wife had a potentially deadly allergic reaction to blue crab.

Having seen this happen in my life, I'll reserve judgement!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 09, 2015 09:54 PM (ftVQq)

186 Anyone got any real data on how many people have died from "Gluten Poisoning" over, say, the last 20 years?



----



omg you are like, so rude. my cousin's roommate's sister's friend gets, like, real sick

Posted by: LIV at March 09, 2015 09:49 PM (VAsIq)


Many, many people each year die of gluten poisoning, but Big Wheat has cooked the books, and the deaths are recorded as "old age".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 09:55 PM (Gm0Ay)

187 122
Hiya, cooth!


Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 09:39 PM (KuU4f)


Howdy, DG!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 09, 2015 09:55 PM (T1005)

188 133 130,

I just bought one of those.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 09:41 PM (OsWis)


Cool! It looks like fun.

Posted by: rickl at March 09, 2015 09:55 PM (sdi6R)

189 If I may take a second to be serious:

Last night, I asked for prayers for my BIL. The show of support, love and prayers was truly overwhelming.

I want to thank each and every one of you, and the horde as a whole. What a wonderful bunch of Morons...
It meant the world to the family, and your continued prayers would be greatly appreciated.

Unfortunately, I have nothing no real updates. The biopsy machine was down down today, so tests have been rescheduled 'til tomorrow.
Spirits are high, and Lynn's faith is stronger than I ever could have imagined. She asked that I thank you for your prayers, and I'm asking now for a continuation. ..

Lewis is scared but fine. Had Chik-fil-a for lunch (jealous!) and we'll know more tomorrow.

Agan, thank you, and God bless you all.


Now - back to the dick jokes & puppy pics...

Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 09:55 PM (hQhus)

190 But, Megan, we want to see you swell up like a water balloon.

Posted by: eman at March 09, 2015 09:56 PM (MQEz6)

191 161 Not to be too contrary, but while it's 99% probably that this Mega girl(?) is just making stuff up, there are people with these types of deadly allergies.
---

I think the thing a lot of us object to is her making it OUR problem.

I'd also add that per the Mayo Clinic link, it sounds as if rarely they are actually allergies.
Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:48 PM (9BRsg)

Most of these allergies are mental defects

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 09:56 PM (fIzos)

192 It's safe for work (no pics), but sometimes words are even more disgusting.

This is one of those times.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 09, 2015 09:53 PM (lhyNL)

******

The big question here is: How could you possibly have known that link even existed?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015 09:56 PM (cIoI4)

193 And why can I not find honey mead in Alabama? It's almost like the place is infested with no-fun Baptist poopyheads...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, by the Pale Moon light at March 09, 2015 09:48 PM (m9V0o)




Make a run to Dothan: http://www.folklorebrewing.com/

Looks like they're about to add mead to their lineup.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 09, 2015 09:56 PM (nL0sw)

194 I think the thing a lot of us object to is her making it OUR problem.

I'd also add that per the Mayo Clinic link, it sounds as if rarely they are actually allergies.

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:48 PM (9BRsg)


I have friends and family who really do have serious allergies (i.e. merely touch them with a nut and they go into instant anaphylactic shock).

Sometimes letting a restaurant your allergies and how they cook their food is not crazy if you have an actual diagnosed allergy.

Posted by: The Anaphylactic Hat at March 09, 2015 09:56 PM (0Ew3K)

195 Word.

Posted by: Civet who is poopiing out your hoity-toity coffee at March 09, 2015 09:52 PM (0Ew3K)


Not my hoity-toity coffee, thankew very much. (opens can of Tim Horton's coffee)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 09:56 PM (Gm0Ay)

196 So is this an App too far?

http://www.ufunk.net/en/gadgets/d-free/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 09:57 PM (WjcKy)

197 Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 09:55 PM (hQhus)

prayers up, darlin' . . .

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:57 PM (EgOr3)

198
Kidney beans aren't kidneys...

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 09, 2015 09:57 PM (/Wi/Y)

199 Now - back to the dick jokes & puppy pics...
Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 09

Enjoy.

You guys are still in my prayers

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 09:57 PM (fIzos)

200 Huma ate the yarn once... ended up just like Errol Flynn's duck on a string...

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 09, 2015 09:58 PM (92L+g)

201 Costco had some jalapeno Greek yogurt that made one of the best chip dips I've tasted right out of the container. I'm glad they no longer carry it here.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 09, 2015 09:58 PM (+FyX1)

202 Sometimes letting a restaurant your allergies and how they cook their food is not crazy if you have an actual diagnosed allergy.
---

I'll let the morons here who've owned restaurants comment on that.

If *I* could die from a bee sting, I wouldn't become a bee keeper. Similarly, if I had such severe food allergies, I would not go out to eat.

Posted by: Y-not at March 09, 2015 09:58 PM (9BRsg)

203 149
Hey, cth.

ignore that email, because, well - too late, I guess.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 09:45 PM (hQhus)



Lotta that goin' around lately....

Posted by: cthulhu at March 09, 2015 09:58 PM (T1005)

204 God Bless, chi.

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 09:59 PM (ahBY0)

205 PEACHES!!!!!!! You get that apartment you wanted?

Strauss family creamery has full fat, vanilla flavored yogurt. Yum. Mix in some trader joe granola cereal with almonds.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 09, 2015 09:59 PM (z3HBe)

206 [iThe big question here is: How could you possibly have known that link even existed?

A good friend sent me a link to the story. I assume it was to help me with my weight loss efforts.

It worked. The was no eating after reading that story.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 09, 2015 09:59 PM (lhyNL)

207
a company here in NJ makes Italian ice called Yum Yum. We used to push a barrel of it on a wagon and sell scoops in the summertime.

Posted by: Father Jones at March 09, 2015 09:59 PM (XYKz+)

208 Hi, my name is Lemmiwinks and here are the types of porn that I don't like:

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 09, 2015 09:59 PM (z+4T3)

209 Many, many people each year die of gluten poisoning,
but Big Wheat has cooked the books, and the deaths are recorded as "old
age".


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 09:55 PM (Gm0Ay)

Heart failure kills a lot of people too! It is always fatal!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 09, 2015 09:59 PM (ftVQq)

210 Posted by: Country Singer at March 09, 2015 09:56 PM (nL0sw)

*******

Evening. You may want to let the American Conservative Party know their site has been proudly hacked by some douchebag.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015 10:00 PM (cIoI4)

211 Prayers, chi.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 10:01 PM (KuU4f)

212 MWNP, thanks for the heads up.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 09, 2015 10:01 PM (nL0sw)

213 (((Peaches))))))

I hope you are doing well sugar!!!

I have food allergies, but dayum. I just eat at home or check the menu ahead of time to see if I can eat anything. Giving out a card is just pretensious as hell.

Posted by: Moki at March 09, 2015 10:01 PM (bAB8f)

214 Could someone explain to me why there is only p*ssy yogurt at stores (no fat low fat 0 fat), taste like crap.

It's part of the fat-is-bad-for-you fad, which I hope is going out of style.

I buy my yogurt at ethnic stores or make my own. Indian groceries have good yogurt at great prices, but if you like flavored yogurt, you'll have to do it yourself.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at March 09, 2015 10:01 PM (0RdKg)

215 209: Syphilis is fatal too. if, you take it home to your wife. Not that I would know. My old boss told me that.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:02 PM (ucDmr)

216 147 I'm addicted to Greek Gods Honey Vanilla yogurt. I mix it with blueberries. YUM. It ain't no low fat stuff, either.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 09:45 PM (KuU4f)

I like their fig yogurt too.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 09, 2015 10:02 PM (+XMAD)

217 PEACHES!!!!!!! You get that apartment you wanted?

Hey, bebe!! No, that apartment was tiny and tawdry and super-overpriced. After 9 days at the dadster's I was overjoyed to be back here in the luxury shithole. And, they must have known I was coming - there was a ghetto-bird hovering overhead when I arrived. Home sweet home.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:02 PM (EgOr3)

218 Allergies for this
Allergies for that
Allergies for everything

Why when we were growing up we didn't have such things. I think all the medications and antibiotics started this....

Posted by: Father Jones at March 09, 2015 10:02 PM (XYKz+)

219 omg you are like, so rude. my cousin's roommate's sister's friend gets, like, real sick
Posted by: LIV at March 09, 2015 09:49 PM (VAsIq)

I'm sorry, Liv! (Can I call you Liv? That's so awesome! Like Liv Tyler and shit!)

Anyway, sorry about that, you know, me asking for facts and stuff. Cray cray! Just me bein' all weird and shit. Hey, you see that latest Kardashian Instragram! That the SHIIIIIIIIT!!!!!! Right?

OK, truth! I was just asking because, you know, I was just keepin' it real when I asked about the fact that, hey, I been in wheat for like, I dunno, a million years? And I don't recall hurtin' anyone til like, last year.

So I'm just sayin'? Hey, I know there's about a hundred million of you out there Liv! You ROCK! You Da Bomb!

I was just kinda wonderin'...you know, where you gettin' yo 411!!

Yeah, pretty awesome slang to close it out.... PEACE!

Posted by: GLUTEN at March 09, 2015 10:03 PM (xOu6p)

220 Yo horde! What's shaking?

Posted by: DC in River City at March 09, 2015 10:03 PM (e+1S5)

221 This might have worked if they'd cased the obits at Hollywood -
"Teen Burglars Mistook Remains For Cocaine"
http://tinyurl.com/prwy7ga

Related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-Qc1yAcpyg#t=4m06s

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 09, 2015 10:03 PM (AVEe1)

222 The mere presence of that link is contaminating the blog.

Can we shove it into the Barrel or something?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 09, 2015 10:04 PM (0NdlF)

223 As for that business card, um Megan you have so many allergies how come they let you out of the bubble?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 10:04 PM (WjcKy)

224 Can we shove it into the Barrel or something?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 09, 2015 10:04 PM (0NdlF)
I'm afraid the Barrel would spit it back out at us.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 09, 2015 10:04 PM (ThxKk)

225 they must have known I was coming - there was a ghetto-bird hovering overhead when I arrived. Home sweet home.
Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:02 PM (EgOr3)

Yeesh. You still trying to find something down there?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 09, 2015 10:05 PM (z3HBe)

226 doesn't gluten just give the sensitive types bad gas or something? forgive me if this is insensitive but I can only work with what the good lord gave me . . .

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:05 PM (EgOr3)

227 No food allergies.

I am, unfortunately, extremely allergic to the kittehs. As in eyes swell shut, can't breathe allergic.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 09, 2015 10:06 PM (+XMAD)

228 I think, IIRC, gluten intolerance gives the person Celiacs or something.

Sorry the apartment was so small and so pricey Peaches. Hope things get better.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 10:06 PM (WjcKy)

229 Allergic to bees and stupid people.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 10:06 PM (OsWis)

230 217: Peaches I am ignorant to Cali speak. WTH is a ghetto bird?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:07 PM (ucDmr)

231 Helicopter, LAPD

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 10:07 PM (OsWis)

232 Hi, my name is Lemmiwinks and here are the types of porn that I don't like:

I figured there was ONE form you might not like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sbD6czlVNU

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 09, 2015 10:07 PM (AVEe1)

233 Wasn't the joke once that good ol' Bill Clinton was the Ego that Walked Like a Man?

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2015 10:07 PM (t//F+)

234 My my. How true it is. Feel sorry for your prey and you will become his. This is the way of the world. How unfortunate to be hoping that a crew of scorpion hauling frogs in the congress that look to the Dems to help them rule. Shame on you.

Posted by: moose61 at March 09, 2015 10:07 PM (KqnY1)

235 I'm allergic to grass. I'm screwed.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 10:07 PM (KuU4f)

236 218
Allergies for this

Allergies for that

Allergies for everything



Why when we were growing up we didn't have such things. I think all the medications and antibiotics started this....

Posted by: Father Jones at March 09, 2015 10:02 PM (XYKz+)


Hygiene hypothesis says that when people stopped letting kids just play in the dirt, their little immune systems didn't get healthy amount of challenges -- and, like a government department that isn't challenged, their immune systems started mission creep into "firing" on all sorts of otherwise tolerated things....like food.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 09, 2015 10:08 PM (T1005)

237 If you have celiac disease, which is very rare, gluten will prevent your from disgusting your food. Untreated it can stunt your growth.


There are tests for celiac. Everybody else is full of shit

Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 09, 2015 10:08 PM (zOTsN)

238 forgive me if this is insensitive but I can only work with what the good lord gave me . . .

The auto-immune response damages the villi in the small intestines and inhibits the ability to absorb nutrients.

Posted by: no good deed at March 09, 2015 10:08 PM (ZKGnj)

239
Who sings it?

Freight train
Each car looks the same, all the same
And no one knows
The gypsy's name

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 09, 2015 10:08 PM (/Wi/Y)

240 You still trying to find something down there?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 09, 2015 10:05 PM (z3HBe)
No, bebe. My dad probably has 6 mos, maybe a year. I need to find work and all my connections are here, so here is where I need to do that. It's amazing, though, how much cleaner and more bucolic it is in SD as compared to LA. He's got an old, tired, probably soon to be demolished place in a little geezer village in University City just east of La Jolla. The location is divine - right on the edge of a box canyon, coyotes and even a bobcat. But I'd kill myself in no time if I had to live there. Which is not really in The Plan!

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:08 PM (EgOr3)

241 I can't believe David Brock hasn't gotten laughed out of gay bars with that hair.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 09, 2015 10:08 PM (+XMAD)

242 Posted by: moose61 at March 09, 2015 10:07 PM (KqnY1)

I recognize each of these words. Now try putting them in an order that makes sense.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 09, 2015 10:08 PM (ThxKk)

243 Why when we were growing up we didn't have such things. I think all the medications and antibiotics started this....

No, it's thanks to the helicopter parents who must protect their little angels from anything that might potentially cause the slightest discomfort.

The kids don't get exposed to the same variety of germs and foods that kids otherwise would and they end up developing allergies.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 09, 2015 10:08 PM (lhyNL)

244 Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at March 09, 2015 10:01 PM (0RdKg)

Since finding out that there's a type of yogurt that can just be left on the counter overnight to culture (called mesophilic) I've been making my own all the time. Aldi milk here in Houston(ish) is only $2/gallon so it's *a lot* cheaper and full fat.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 09, 2015 10:09 PM (GDulk)

245 I don't eat at Chili's, because I can't tolerate any appreciable amount of onion. Biting into a raw onion (like on a burger) results in blisters in my mouth.

For real. Painful. Not fun.

But, no other typical "allergic" reactions.

I can cut onions all day, sautee' 'em in the skillet for you and am told that my seasoning of 'em is sublime.

About the only way I use onion, is when making a 15 quart pot of chicken soup, I'll dice about a tablespoon of onion extremely fine, and then let that cook into the soup a day or more before serving.

In other words, as a seasoning, and not an ingredient.

Pain in the ass, 'cause there's some things that just ain't right without onion. Sour Cream & Onion potato chips. Onion dip.

I can take a nibble, time to time.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 09, 2015 10:09 PM (RzZOc)

246 13 that sure as fuck aint Megan McCain.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 09:16 PM (ucDmr)


Oh man this cracked me up. Nice.

Posted by: weew at March 09, 2015 10:10 PM (0tmLY)

247 I can't believe David Brock hasn't gotten laughed out of gay bars with that hair.

Gloryholes are our friend.

Posted by: david brock at March 09, 2015 10:10 PM (AVEe1)

248 Celiac is genetic. Runs in familys

Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 09, 2015 10:10 PM (zOTsN)

249 Helicopter, LAPD

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 10:07 PM (OsWis)
Are you in LA, SMFH?

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:10 PM (EgOr3)

250 Sorry, Megan, our insurance policy won't cover you eating here. Please hold your breath as you exit the premises lest you go into anaphylactic shock by inhaling a dust particle.

Posted by: the restaurant manager at March 09, 2015 10:11 PM (+FyX1)

251 Hygiene hypothesis says that when people stopped
letting kids just play in the dirt, their little immune systems didn't
get healthy amount of challenges -- and, like a government department
that isn't challenged, their immune systems started mission creep into
"firing" on all sorts of otherwise tolerated things....like food.


Posted by: cthulhu at March 09, 2015 10:08 PM (T1005)


Interesting personal factoid. I have two aunts who are nurses and were very paranoid protective of their children. I have two aunts who are not nurses and were not paranoid. The nurses' children all grew up with horrible allergies, were allergic to "everything" and were on nebulizers. The non-nurses' children (including myself) grew up and were fine.
Granted, I have some mild environmental allergies that I seemed to have developed as an adult, but nothing like the crazy stuff my cousins experienced.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 10:11 PM (KuU4f)

252 I think I have figured out the Cankles foreign policy...it was all spam. If she got an email saying "spam" she ate some spam, which went to her hips. It is all transparent now.

Remember: she was told to be sec of state. She, from apparent red faced anger at the announcement, did not want to do this. They had the goods on each other and, whoops, the machine did not function as planned. She thought she would simply jet around getting ff miles until she felt like running for president. Then, Benghazi and "what does any of this matter anymore?"

Why is this showing up this week? Bibi. A sort of wag the dog which had already been thrown under bus. Blunderbuss.

Posted by: ChristyB would not wear a tunic at March 09, 2015 10:11 PM (TIGDR)

253 Lewis is scared but fine. Had Chik-fil-a for lunch (jealous!) and we'll know more tomorrow.
Agan, thank you, and God bless you all.
Now - back to the dick jokes & puppy pics...
Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 09:55 PM

I cashed in early last night, missed this. My prayers go out tonight. Best wishes.
T

Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 10:11 PM (o/90i)

254 No, in Texas...but used to live in the Bay Area and San Diego as a kid.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 10:11 PM (OsWis)

255 doesn't gluten just give the sensitive types bad gas or something? forgive me if this is insensitive but I can only work with what the good lord gave me . . .
Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:05 PM (EgOr3)

******

My BIL developed a fairly severe dairy allergy in his late 40s. He did not know what was going on.

An incident involving liquefied ...matter...exiting the wrong portal while giving a speech to potential investors. So, yeah, it can get pretty severe. And, I'm going to hell for both telling that story here and laughing about it for months After hearing it from my sister. BIL is an insufferable, pompous douchebag.

I'll save y'all a seat at the Cool Kids table there.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015 10:11 PM (XrHO0)

256 The kids don't get exposed to the same variety of germs and foods that kids otherwise would and they end up developing allergies.

That and the overuse of antibiotics.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at March 09, 2015 10:12 PM (0RdKg)

257 That didn't make any sense. But you get my drift, they appeal to dems to keep from agreeing with conservatives. They all need to find other homes.

Posted by: moose61 at March 09, 2015 10:12 PM (KqnY1)

258 Megan obviously is a plant, only thriving on "pure" light, air, and water.

Posted by: Thrawn at March 09, 2015 10:12 PM (+cRgA)

259 240 No, bebe. My dad probably has 6 mos, maybe a year. I need to find work and all my connections are here, so here is where I need to do that.
Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:08 PM (EgOr3)

I'm sorry. The cancer double whammy is a whole special level if teh suck. Let me know if you need anything.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 09, 2015 10:13 PM (z3HBe)

260 249: Us rubes in Jesus land aint familiar street wise you know. Thanks for clearing that up. I though a ghetto bird was a damn crow or vulture.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:13 PM (ucDmr)

261 So is this an appropriate image for this thread???

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/selection-du-weekend-130-15.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 10:13 PM (WjcKy)

262 my dad's computer is probably recycled from North Korea or Haiti. I mean, it just was more damn trouble than it was worth and click-wise, reminiscent of the dial-up days.
Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:34 PM

Hope all is well w/ your move and you Dad. Yall are in my prayers also.
T

Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 10:13 PM (o/90i)

263 Freight train

Each car looks the same, all the same

And no one knows

The gypsy's name

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 09, 2015 10:08 PM (/Wi/Y)
Allman Bros. Duh.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:13 PM (EgOr3)

264 260,

Heh...np.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 10:14 PM (OsWis)

265 OK kiddos, bedtime. See you all before the sun comes up.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 09, 2015 10:14 PM (KuU4f)

266
Good evening, good people.

And especially peaches--so great to see you again.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 09, 2015 10:15 PM (jeCnD)

267 niters DG.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 10:15 PM (OsWis)

268 My toddler is crying because her name doesn't have an O in it. Daylight savings has our whole routine screwed up, but she's going to bed right now.

Posted by: Lauren at March 09, 2015 10:15 PM (MYCIw)

269 No, bebe. My dad probably has 6 mos, maybe a year. I need to find work and all my connections are here, so here is where I need to do that.
Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:08 PM (EgOr3)


Thoughts and prayers.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 09, 2015 10:15 PM (0Ew3K)

270 255- Ih my gosh, that happened to a friend of mine who was briefing a general in Iraq, early in the war. He told the guy that he had to go, and the jerk made him keep briefing. So he just "went". Made for a stinky briefing. I cried from laughing when he told me.

Posted by: Moki at March 09, 2015 10:15 PM (bAB8f)

271 We are plants, too, and what do they do? Keep us in the dark, and feed us shit. We are oppressed, and we are not going to take it any more.

Posted by: Mushroom Liberation Front at March 09, 2015 10:15 PM (Gm0Ay)

272
241 I can't believe David Brock hasn't gotten laughed out of gay bars with that hair.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March

Laughed Straight

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 10:16 PM (4ka5+)

273 Thanks, T.

I have to take a break for a minute...
I expect some kbdabear pics & bad puns by the time I get back...

Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 10:16 PM (hQhus)

274 I have to be at work extra early tomorrow morning so I'm checking out early. Goodnight, horde.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 09, 2015 10:16 PM (+XMAD)

275 And prayer to you chi, and you Peaches. Tell your dad I'm thinking of him. Is there anything we can do?

Posted by: Moki at March 09, 2015 10:16 PM (bAB8f)

276 We are plants, too, and what do they do? Keep us in the dark, and feed us shit. We are oppressed, and we are not going to take it any more.

Posted by: Mushroom Liberation Front at March 09, 2015 10:15 PM (Gm0Ay)


Shut-uppa-yo-mouth and get in-a-our-bellies!

Posted by: Mario and Luigi at March 09, 2015 10:17 PM (0Ew3K)

277 Same grumpy toddler had a serum reaction to amoxicillin after her first ear infection. That was a bunch of fun since it looks just like measles, we lived in Austin, and she was too young to be vaccinated.

Posted by: Lauren at March 09, 2015 10:17 PM (MYCIw)

278 270, 255...

I'll be joining y'all in Hell, because I'm laughing my ass off while typing this.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 10:17 PM (OsWis)

279 Let me know if you need anything.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 09, 2015 10:13 PM (z3HBe)
Thanks, sweetie! He's 88, this is not a tragedy, just kinda sad. And if everyone keeps on the current meme about the celiac and all that, I'm gonna throw down trumps and regale the horde with the brand-new-colostomy stories. But, I've already killed one thread today and I mostly just want to watch tv.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:17 PM (EgOr3)

280 Bonsai !!!!!!

Posted by: Mushroom Liberation Front at March 09, 2015 10:17 PM (92L+g)

281
Almond brothers, bro. Almond.

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 09, 2015 10:18 PM (/Wi/Y)

282 Oh Mario, your Princess has been found....

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/selection-du-weekend-130-79.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 10:18 PM (WjcKy)

283 What ever happened to beau bergdahl. They are supposed to slip it by us this month

Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 09, 2015 10:18 PM (zOTsN)

284 My name is Cankles..........
I can't make the second floor...
I steal garbage from you.....
Yeah, I think you've smelled me before.

If you hear treason. late at night,
Some kind of Un-,
Patriotic delight....

Just don't ask me...
Who it was
Just don't serve me...
Subpoenas...
Just don't ask me...
Who I am.








Posted by: Dirty Randy at March 09, 2015 10:18 PM (xOu6p)

285 Nitey-nite, DG!!! Sweet dreams, darlin'

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:18 PM (EgOr3)

286 With everyone checking out, an early ONT worked out fine

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 10:18 PM (4ka5+)

287 Da BEARS!!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 09, 2015 10:19 PM (Z0Bd1)

288 This outfit doesn't work with a pear shape.

Posted by: Dr. No at March 09, 2015 10:19 PM (+4uXG)

289 283,

Still chilling out in an office somewhere at Ft Sam Houston down in San Antonio under constant guard and supervision.

Feel sorry for the poor bastards with that duty.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 10:20 PM (OsWis)

290 All right, I'm out. I hate being one of those people who needs lots of sleep, but I work with what I got.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 09, 2015 10:21 PM (ThxKk)

291 287: Not this shit again. wait til the Cubs shit in their picnic basscket for Crissakes.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:21 PM (ucDmr)

292 287 Da BEARS!!!!
Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's

Still suck

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 10:21 PM (4ka5+)

293 Da BEARS!!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 09, 2015 10:19 PM (Z0Bd1)
Oh, bless your heart, NCJ!! I know they're gonna go to the show this year. And, fuckity fuck, you see my boyz lost Darrell Revis today? Good thing we don't need him, see ya, suckah.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:21 PM (EgOr3)

294
It's really only 9:22

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 09, 2015 10:21 PM (/Wi/Y)

295 285. Peaches!!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 09, 2015 10:22 PM (Z0Bd1)

296 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 09, 2015 10:09 PM (GDulk)

I haven't heard of mesophilic yogurt but will look into it. I've been making yogurt the same way for 25 years and need to learn some new tricks.

I use whole milk, add powdered milk to provide more food for the critters and make it thicker, bring it to a quick boil, then let it cool in an oven set to 115 degrees. Then I add a good yogurt brand (sometimes a probiotic capsule) and let it sit overnight in the oven. The next morning I have a load of tasty yogurt.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at March 09, 2015 10:22 PM (0RdKg)

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:23 PM (EgOr3)

298 highly-condensed-but-legally-still-a-contractual ONT.

Sounds like some soup I use to buy! lol

Posted by: Killerdog at March 09, 2015 10:23 PM (vntmB)

299 293: Belickek will replace him with a guy just as good, for one quarter the money. the guy's a fuckin genius.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:23 PM (ucDmr)

300
Da BEARS!!!!

At least you're not pushing the cubs, they won't have the bleachers done till June.

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 10:23 PM (ahBY0)

301
Howie Long, who looks like an old dyke, hs kid was cut today by the Rams.

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 09, 2015 10:23 PM (/Wi/Y)

302 282 Oh Mario, your Princess has been found....

Mario looks ... different.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 09, 2015 10:24 PM (0NdlF)

303 I'll be joining y'all in Hell, because I'm laughing my ass off while typing this.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at March 09, 2015 10:17 PM (OsWis)

*****
Find me at the Inferno Grill. When not standing on my head, I'll be at table two nearest the serving trolls.,

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015 10:24 PM (XrHO0)

304 Would a leather trench coat make me look less like a Nazi?

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 09, 2015 10:24 PM (92L+g)

305 291. I didn't choose the topic of the ONT
I just get to exploit it

293. Didn't see that
We got rid of marshall to the Jets
Damn colorblind is still there

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 09, 2015 10:24 PM (Z0Bd1)

306 If God had intended us to eat spoiled milk, He wouldn't have given us refrigerators.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 10:25 PM (Gm0Ay)

307 If God had intended us to eat spoiled milk, He wouldn't have given us refrigerators.

Not a fan of cheese?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 09, 2015 10:25 PM (0NdlF)

308 300. I know
When they are ready I'm flying home just to relive my days as a bleacher bum

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka everyone's favorite democrat at March 09, 2015 10:26 PM (Z0Bd1)

309 Belickek will replace him with a guy just as good, for one quarter the money. the guy's a fuckin genius.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:23 PM (ucDmr)
word

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:26 PM (EgOr3)

310 Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:17 PM

My best to you and your family. Sad to hear, but that is the course of life.

MY Mom had a heart attack at 67, had 10 more years of varying health till she died last yr 3/15.

You know they had a good run, it's just hard to deal w/ the loss/potential loss.

Be well.

Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 10:27 PM (o/90i)

311 227
I am, unfortunately, extremely allergic to the kittehs. As in eyes swell shut, can't breathe allergic.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 09, 2015 10:06 PM (+XMAD)



I adopted two of my neighbor's kittehs back in 2000.

Within a couple of months, I began to notice that I was waking up in the middle of the night gasping for breath. One night it was so bad that I went outside and sat on the porch for awhile. I seriously considered calling 911.

I made an appointment with the doctor, and he told me that I was allergic to the cats and I needed to get rid of them. I found another doctor instead. The new one didn't think that such a drastic step would be necessary, and prescribed an asthma inhaler. We tried a few different kinds and they eventually got things under control. Later he tried giving me Advair, and that was the ticket. One puff twice a day, and no more asthma attacks. I haven't had to use a rescue inhaler in years.

Kira is 15 now. Leo unfortunately died in 2007, but I adopted Reggie, and he will be 8 next month.

An interesting coda: Occasionally I would forget to take a dose, and I'd start wheezing again. About a year ago I noticed that I could skip a dose and not feel any ill effects. I started experimenting to see how long I could go without taking the medication. Now I only take it occasionally when I feel a little short of breath. I think I might have developed an immunity to the cats.

Posted by: rickl at March 09, 2015 10:27 PM (sdi6R)

312
Speaking of milk I mightve mentioned I finally tried Almond Milk. I'm hooked.

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 09, 2015 10:27 PM (/Wi/Y)

313 Not a fan of cheese?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 09, 2015 10:25 PM (0NdlF)


But cheese is augmented milk. Yogurt is spoiled milk. Basically cheese that didn't make the grade.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 10:28 PM (Gm0Ay)

314 I adopted two of my neighbor's kittehs back in 2000.

Within a couple of months, I began to notice that I was waking up in the middle of the night gasping for breath. One night it was so bad that I went outside and sat on the porch for awhile. I seriously considered calling 911.

I made an appointment with the doctor, and he told me that I was allergic to the cats

Posted by: rickl at March 09, 2015 10:27 PM (sdi6R)


The cats were just stealing your breath and life force...

Posted by: The Soul-Stealing Hat at March 09, 2015 10:29 PM (0Ew3K)

315 Given my fistula, I can make both vaginal AND rectal yogurt...

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 09, 2015 10:29 PM (92L+g)

316
307 If God had intended us to eat spoiled milk, He wouldn't have given us refrigerators.

Not a fan of cheese?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 09, 2015 10:25 PM (0NdlF)

Crying over spilled milk. The morons have lost it

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 10:30 PM (4ka5+)

317 Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 10:27 PM (o/90i)

Farmer, I am so sorry . . . that's a tough, tough road to walk. I am more and more convinced that the best thing for any of us is to just go to sleep one night and not wake up. The rest of it is just fuckin' brutal. But, we don't get to choose.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:30 PM (EgOr3)

318 Life force you say?

http://youtu.be/qej5nlRb9VM

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 10:30 PM (WjcKy)

319 If Megan's diet is so severely restricted, how did she ever manage to be so full of shit?
Shit is organic so it's okay.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 09, 2015 10:31 PM (JCdoo)

320 MH: Dummykin Suh to Miami. how long before first suspension? the Fish are idiots.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:31 PM (ucDmr)

321 313 But cheese is augmented milk. Yogurt is spoiled milk. Basically cheese that didn't make the grade.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 10:28 PM


Yogurt is fermented milk. Is whiskey spoiled grain?

Posted by: Splunge at March 09, 2015 10:31 PM (qyomX)

322 Given my fistula, you could run a string in one hole and out the other, and hang me upside down like a pudendal pinata!

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 09, 2015 10:31 PM (92L+g)

323 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 09, 2015 10:32 PM (4gN5w)

324 320 MH: Dummykin Suh to Miami. how long before first suspension? the Fish are idiots.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:31 PM (ucDmr)

Glad our guys don't have to face him twice a year. Cheap player. McCarthys butt boy Philbin can put up with him. Good riddance

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 10:33 PM (4ka5+)

325 Yogurt is fermented milk. Is whiskey spoiled grain?

Posted by: Splunge at March 09, 2015 10:31 PM (qyomX)


It's distilled spoiled grain. Makes all the difference in the world.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 10:33 PM (Gm0Ay)

326 That's great Megan.... now GFYS

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 10:33 PM (fLKzW)

327 Yogurt is fermented milk. Is whiskey spoiled grain?

Or salami spoiled pork?

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 10:34 PM (ahBY0)

328 Alton Jackson . . . the man who took me from "wtf is g'evening, it's not even a thing" to actually hearing it in my head. Kudos, my friend, you taught an old dog a new trick!

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:34 PM (EgOr3)

329 vote for me and my pooner !!!

Posted by: Hillary2016 at March 09, 2015 10:35 PM (wHD/C)

330 324: He will be in jail before the season is over. he won't be able to behave in Miami. It aint Detroit.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:35 PM (ucDmr)

331 Speaking of milk I mightve mentioned I finally tried Almond Milk. I'm hooked.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 09, 2015 10:27 PM (/Wi/Y)
***********
Where are the Almonds Nipples?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 10:36 PM (fLKzW)

332

good to see you again, Peaches

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 09, 2015 10:36 PM (4gN5w)

333 Time for the old folk. Busy day tomorrow doing some damn thing or another.


Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 09, 2015 10:36 PM (jeCnD)

334 Where are the Almonds Nipples?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 10:36 PM (fLKzW)
right over there next to the Soy Nipples!

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:37 PM (EgOr3)

335 331 Where are the Almonds Nipples?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 10:36 PM


I'm going to guess the pointy end.

Posted by: Splunge at March 09, 2015 10:37 PM (qyomX)

336 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 09, 2015 10:37 PM (UVfht)

337 Megan,

Didn't see semen on the list, so it's cool right?

Posted by: W.J. Clinton at March 09, 2015 10:37 PM (wHD/C)

338 Drinking a Big Rock Scottish Style Heavy Ale. Spoiled grain, yum.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 10:37 PM (Gm0Ay)

339 Speaking of milk I mightve mentioned I finally tried Almond Milk. I'm hooked.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 09, 2015 10:27 PM (/Wi/Y)
***********
Where are the Almonds Nipples?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 10:36 PM (fLKzW)

*****
True dat. This is like the myth of Soy Milk. It is Almond or Soy juice, not Milk.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015 10:38 PM (3F6F8)

340 Miami. It aint Detroit.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:35 PM (ucDmr)
it ain't far, though . . . not talking mileage here.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:38 PM (EgOr3)

341 I Don't believe that Megan is allergic to Man Butter.... at least I didn't see it on the list

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 10:39 PM (fLKzW)

342 If you've never milked an almond with your own hands, you have not truly lived.

Posted by: Splunge at March 09, 2015 10:39 PM (qyomX)

343 I saw the Soy Nipples open for Pussy Riot at the coliseum in Belarus in 2011.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 10:39 PM (Gm0Ay)

344 I get burns on my skin if I walk downwind of poison ivy ...in my own yard. Got sensitized somehow. I sometimes have to wear a tyvek, gloves, and a respirator depending on where I'm working back there. I am thinking of hiring a team of goats ( for reals) this year to clear brush and poison ivy in a wilder part.

Posted by: SarahW at March 09, 2015 10:39 PM (Lbv/k)

345 Almond Soy is one of my favorite candy bars.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 09, 2015 10:39 PM (W5DcG)

346 Posted by: President Prolapse at March 09, 2015 10:29 PM

Well since PP inserted politics here...I've got a question for the Horde.

The letter to Iraq telling them Congress may vote on any "agreement" was signing by 47 Rep Senators. Anyone know who the apostates where who didn't sign?

Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 10:40 PM (o/90i)

347 340: Peaches, I was thinking Detroit has no place an idiot with money can get himself in deep shit unless he's really stupid. miami, on the other hand, is a fools paradise.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:40 PM (ucDmr)

348 Drinking a Big Rock Scottish Style Heavy Ale. Spoiled grain, yum.

A toast of the Champagne of Bottled Beer in a Can to you Sir, I know mine is rotten.

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 10:41 PM (ahBY0)

349 330 324: He will be in jail before the season is over. he won't be able to behave in Miami. It aint Detroit.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March

20-22 million dollars a year, less taxes, less agent fees, yeah look out South Beach

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 10:41 PM (4ka5+)

350 Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at March 09, 2015 10:22 PM (0RdKg)

Mesophilic yogurt is generally thinner but still quite tasty (and I don't have to worry about getting the temperature correct). I like it on granola or other cold cereal and mix it with water and a little flavored syrup for a fairly healthy drink.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 09, 2015 10:42 PM (GDulk)

351 Here ya go, Farmer:

Lamar Alexander, Susan Collins, Bob Corker, Dan Coats, Jeff Flake, Lisa Murkowski, and Thad Cochran.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:42 PM (EgOr3)

352 Someone added juniper and a whole bunch of other stuff to my spoiled grain. What's worse, they then poured in a little bit of spoiled grapes and spoiled herbs. Tastes good, actually.

Posted by: Splunge at March 09, 2015 10:42 PM (qyomX)

353 Speaking of Rotten.... my dog has THE WORST farts tonight. She actually gets up and walks away from her own farts.... they are that bad. She must have gotten into the trash.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 10:43 PM (fLKzW)

354 Truce of kbdabear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/574981133357727744

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/574981277452992513

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/574981518969430018

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/574981882175164416

Posted by: kbdabear at March 09, 2015 10:44 PM (GrXXa)

355 Farmer did you see Gaylord Merkin Focker the Wurst's reaction to that letter to Iran? He got his thong all wee-wee'd up and twsited.

"I think it's somewhat ironic to see some members of Congress wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in Iran," Obama said a few hours after the letter was made public. "It's an unusual coalition."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 10:45 PM (WjcKy)

356 Drinking a Big Rock Scottish Style Heavy Ale. Spoiled grain, yum.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


From across the room? - Oh, "ALE". NEVERMIND.
/EmilyLitella

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 09, 2015 10:45 PM (XvsbD)

357 So if anyone peeks their head in and asks what this ONT was about, so far, we have:

Spoiled milk
Spoiled grain
Spoiled Garbage Farts
Prolapses
Allergies

Posted by: Splunge at March 09, 2015 10:46 PM (qyomX)

358 ART! and SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/575009776410759169

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/575009935437795328

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/575010444940808192

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/575011267573911552

Posted by: kbdabear at March 09, 2015 10:46 PM (GrXXa)

359 Almond Soy? How about some Millenberg Joys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYw6aBM6sCs

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 10:47 PM (Gm0Ay)

360 MWNP, they're on the case. Apparently everything was backed up very recently.

Posted by: Country singer at March 09, 2015 10:47 PM (nL0sw)

361 Speaking of Rotten.... my dog has THE WORST farts tonight. She actually gets up and walks away from her own farts.... they are that bad. She must have gotten into the trash.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 10:43 PM (fLKzW)

****
I've Got a 90 lb. lab/mastiff mix like that. She will fire one off, look surprised, act disgusted and then leave. Kinda fitting that the Ex Spawn of Satan wanted me to keep this one, I guess.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015 10:48 PM (XrHO0)

362 >>Speaking of Rotten.... my dog has THE WORST farts
tonight. She actually gets up and walks away from her own farts....
they are that bad. She must have gotten into the trash.

Posted by: Truck Monkey

Yeah right. Blaming the dog is the oldest trick in the book.

Posted by: Aviator at March 09, 2015 10:48 PM (sQzB6)

363 357: A collapsed colon will complete the circle.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:49 PM (ucDmr)

364 I get burns on my skin if I walk downwind of poison ivy ...in my own yard.

I used to suddenly get it every spring when I was in my 30s. Doc said it was just a thing that people develop and then just stopped. I used to get it so bad I had to get the shot.

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 10:49 PM (ahBY0)

365 317
Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 10:27 PM (o/90i)

Farmer, I am
so sorry . . . that's a tough, tough road to walk. I am more and more
convinced that the best thing for any of us is to just go to sleep one
night and not wake up. The rest of it is just fuckin' brutal. But, we
don't get to choose.


Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:30 PM (EgOr3)

Wow, I do concur though

Posted by: Killerdog at March 09, 2015 10:49 PM (vntmB)

366 I've Got a 90 lb. lab/mastiff mix like that.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty


90lbs? So she's 3 months old.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 09, 2015 10:50 PM (XvsbD)

367 Here ya go, Farmer:
Lamar Alexander, Susan Collins, Bob Corker, Dan Coats, Jeff Flake, Lisa Murkowski, and Thad Cochran.
Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:42 PM

TY Peaches. Just glad my RINO Mark Kirk wasn't on that list.

I think this needs to on the record, nobody in the MFM seems to mention it.

Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 10:50 PM (o/90i)

368 MWNP, they're on the case. Apparently everything was backed up very recently.
Posted by: Country singer at March 09, 2015 10:47 PM (nL0sw)

******

Cool. Tried to use it as an example here last night, and saw the douchebag hack.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015 10:50 PM (XrHO0)

369 Iran, Farmer and I would love to see the list. Not sure one exists.

Posted by: Infidel at March 09, 2015 10:51 PM (jwcHC)

370 A collapsed colon will complete the circle.

Trying to summon Colin Powell?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 10:51 PM (WjcKy)

371 367: Farmer, got your Lear gassed up for Oneida my friend?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:51 PM (ucDmr)

372 My dog is an overweight (80 pounds) Weimaraner. Fitting that a German dog would try to gas my Jewish Family. I shouldn't be surprised.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 10:53 PM (fLKzW)

373 Of course, Iwas late. Had to take the trash out.

Posted by: Infidel at March 09, 2015 10:53 PM (jwcHC)

374 Speaking of Rotten.... my dog has THE WORST farts tonight. She actually gets up and walks away from her own farts.... they are that bad. She must have gotten into the trash.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 10:43 PM

Lately our elder dog is worse. We had to switch her to a grain-free diet, it was causing an allergy that kept her getting ear infection, yeast type. Once on the new diet the ear cleared up, but she farted much more.

She turns around and smells her azz, like it's a big surprise!

Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 10:54 PM (o/90i)

375 370: Anna, what a tool he turned out to be. that's our best and brightest? Damn, that guy really pisses me off. Took credit for Desert Storm battle when the whole thing was drawn up years earlier by a guy named Boyd. A military genius.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:55 PM (ucDmr)

376 90lbs? So she's 3 months old.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 09, 2015 10:50 PM (XvsbD)

*****

Nope, thankfully 4 y/o and full grown. A total ball of psychosis if not exercised properly, but a sweeter dog you will not meet.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015 10:55 PM (XrHO0)

377 OK, this may piss some of you off, but I think this letter to Iran was a bad idea.

I admire Senator Cotton, and UCMJ prohibits me from giving my candid opinion of this President. But this has managed to make him look even weaker and sillier than he did in his negotiations.

Did he have it coming? Yes, by making it clear he would negotiate a treaty in all but name, so he wouldn't have to get approval from that pesky Senate. Still, this would have been better communicated to the president, in secret, not to the fucking mullahs in public.

Posted by: JPS at March 09, 2015 10:56 PM (9ziuC)

378 Thanks for the food allergy/food intolerance link, Y-not. I have some food intolerances. Don't introduce myself to people with them. Corn is the most limiting one. But who needs processed foods, right?

A vanilla bean and a soybean don't have much in common that I know about.

Weird factoid: Raw cashews contain the same toxin as poison Ivy. Also found in mangoes. Cashews are related to pistachios and poison sumac.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/1374/

Posted by: KT at March 09, 2015 10:56 PM (qahv/)

379 doesn't gluten just give the sensitive types bad gas
or something? forgive me if this is insensitive but I can only work
with what the good lord gave me . . .


Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:05 PM (EgOr3)
Internal bleeding, eventual destruction of the intestine, endpoint is usually intestinal cancer or septic organ failure, usually after decades of irregular and increasing pain.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 09, 2015 10:57 PM (bLnSU)

380 I find a funnel and portion of garden hose allows me to inhale my farts - and queefs - with ease.

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 09, 2015 10:57 PM (92L+g)

381 If I ate some peanuts and Meagan ate them out of my turds would she still be allergic to them?

Posted by: Kentucky Kid at March 09, 2015 10:58 PM (1weFB)

382 381: Nah, she would be allergic to just the corn in your turd.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:59 PM (ucDmr)

383 JPS your concern is duly noted.

However this President has operated from Day One with the attitude of "I won so suck it up biotches" when it comes to Republicans. How many times must one 'work' with someone who refuses to negotiate before one is forced to nail to a door all the reasons why the negotiations have failed?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 10:59 PM (WjcKy)

384 Still, this would have been better communicated to the president, in secret, not to the fucking mullahs in public.

Posted by: JPS at March 09, 2015 10:56 PM (9ziuC)
I get what you're saying but we all know that Fredo don't give a rat's ass what anybody thinks.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 11:00 PM (EgOr3)

385 Smells like a dinovite fart.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 09, 2015 11:00 PM (W5DcG)

386 It looks like someone hotlinked in my sock agrees with you, JPS.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 09, 2015 11:00 PM (JCdoo)

387 I've got nothing. Gonna play some spades and hit the rack. 0500comes way too early.

Posted by: DC in River City at March 09, 2015 11:01 PM (e+1S5)

388 I hate Iranians, and will make ValJar lick my... riding boots.

Posted by: President Prolapse at March 09, 2015 11:01 PM (92L+g)

389 383: We don't have a president. We have the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 11:02 PM (ucDmr)

390 Farmer did you see Gaylord Merkin Focker the Wurst's reaction to that letter to Iran? He got his thong all wee-wee'd up and twsited.
"I think it's somewhat ironic to see some members of Congress wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in Iran," Obama said a few hours after the letter was made public. "It's an unusual coalition."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 10:45 PM

I'm hoping that the latest reactions to his limp-wristed approach to Iran might move him. I doubt it, I think he's such an Islamic sympathizer it's hopeless.

I liked the Senate Reps firing off that letter. Hey, even McConnell signed it. Maybe he can find that missing backbone.

Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 11:02 PM (o/90i)

391 What Anna Puma said. the JEF refused to abide by court orders, what makes you think he would consider the advise of republicans in private?

Posted by: Infidel at March 09, 2015 11:03 PM (jwcHC)

392 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 09, 2015 10:57 PM (bLnSU)

I stand corrected, Mero, and I don't think it's the first time. A thousand pardons, that sounds dreadful. I think I may not be the only one who kind of downplays the gluten thing now that all the merry band-wagoners have jumped on and decided for themselves, for no real reason, that they must adopt a gluten free diet. Being in California, I know many of these people. Do forgive.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 11:03 PM (EgOr3)

393 If that poor Megan has no glucose in her blood stream, she's dead.

Posted by: G. Rodger Aimes at March 09, 2015 11:03 PM (6OfiT)

394 Fitting that a German dog would try to gas my Jewish Family. I shouldn't be surprised.
Posted by: Truck Monkey
-----------------

I recall that when they made the movie 'Entebbe', there was a scene where the Israelis landed at the airfield in a couple of C-130's (?). On board were Mercedes which were the same cars as used by Idi Amin, intended to flummux the the kidnappers.

After the plane landed, they couldn't get one of the cars to start. The guy at the wheel turned to the others and said, "goddamned German car".

Posted by: Mike Hammer, Former FireFox user at March 09, 2015 11:03 PM (F2IAQ)

395 390: That backbone is a puddle underneath his chair.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 11:03 PM (ucDmr)

396 Weird factoid: Raw cashews contain the same toxin as poison Ivy. Also
found in mangoes. Cashews are related to pistachios and poison sumac.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/1374/

Thanks KT, I never knew that, and many things you post on the garden thread, if you're one and the same.


Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 11:04 PM (ahBY0)

397 338 Drinking a Big Rock Scottish Style Heavy Ale. Spoiled grain, yum.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 10:37 PM

You tried Fraoch Heather Ale aop? It's tasty

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 09, 2015 11:05 PM (z3HBe)

398 Do Cashews have Nipples? I would try Cashew Milk.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 11:06 PM (fLKzW)

399 379
doesn't gluten just give the sensitive types bad gas

or something? forgive me if this is insensitive but I can only work

with what the good lord gave me . . .




Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 10:05 PM (EgOr3)Internal
bleeding, eventual destruction of the intestine, endpoint is usually
intestinal cancer or septic organ failure, usually after decades of
irregular and increasing pain.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 09, 2015 10:57 PM (bLnSU)


Hey, Mero -- how go the wars???

Posted by: cthulhu at March 09, 2015 11:06 PM (T1005)

400 Talk to BA-Rock in private? Shirley you jest?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 11:06 PM (YOPoU)

401 Weird factoid: Raw cashews contain the same toxin as poison Ivy

That is why you will never, ever see them anywhere in the shell.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 11:06 PM (EgOr3)

402 However this President has operated from Day One with the attitude of "I won so suck it up biotches" when it comes to Republicans. How many times must one 'work' with someone who refuses to negotiate before one is forced to nail to a door all the reasons why the negotiations have failed?


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 10:59 PM (WjcKy)


I think its time congress beats on him with iron fists. Then again, I'm not the diplomatic type when it comes to tyrants.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 09, 2015 11:07 PM (FMbng)

403 You tried Fraoch Heather Ale aop? It's tasty

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 09, 2015 11:05 PM (z3HBe)


Where do they make that, and where is it sold? My little local liquor store doesn't have a huge selection of beers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:07 PM (Gm0Ay)

404

Ooo ooh that smell
The smell that's around you..

To what is Lynrd Skynrd referring?

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 09, 2015 11:08 PM (/Wi/Y)

405 " But this has managed to make him look even weaker and sillier than he did in his negotiations.
"

That's not possible.

Posted by: Lauren at March 09, 2015 11:08 PM (MYCIw)

406 >>Lately our elder dog is worse. We had to switch her
to a grain-free diet, it was causing an allergy that kept her getting
ear infection, yeast type. Once on the new diet the ear cleared up, but
she farted much more.





Posted by: Farmer

If you have more of those type ear problems a spoonful of yogurt on the dog's food every day seems to help quite a bit.

Posted by: Aviator at March 09, 2015 11:08 PM (sQzB6)

407 Did he have it coming? Yes, by making it clear he would negotiate a treaty in all but name, so he wouldn't have to get approval from that pesky Senate. Still, this would have been better communicated to the president, in secret, not to the fucking mullahs in public.
Posted by: JPS


While it's never a good bit of rhetoric to justify one's own 'bad' behavior by citing another's, the Left's sudden concern over Congressional contact with rival powers pales in comparison to a letter from some GOP.

Consider, that Teddy Kennedy was actively soliciting the Soviets' support in exchange for real, honest to your Maker treason.

Letter vs. Treason. Somehow I'm not feeling the letter ranks anywhere near that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 09, 2015 11:08 PM (XvsbD)

408 Katherine Bigelow, the director of Zero Dark Thirty fame has a new project. A film about Beau Bergdahl

Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 09, 2015 11:08 PM (zOTsN)

409 You guys with big dogs have nothing on a 16 pound min-pin.
This little guy can nuke a 15×20 room, walk away, and leave you in tears before you can say "what in the name of all that is is Holy..."

It's how I know he's been next door before dinnertime.
It's also how he has learned to answer to the name "stinkbutt" when called.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 11:09 PM (hQhus)

410 Do forgive.


Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 11:03 PM (EgOr3)
It's not a you problem. I do get tired of the jokes, since I *can't* eat out with people (except very rarely) because I *can't* trust restaurants - or cooks in general, for that matter, to get it right, and they don't want to anyway.It's a laughing matter unless you're sick all the time or your kid suffers because of something someone else thought was safe - or more likely didn't care. I admit it's one of those "my ox is being gored" things.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 09, 2015 11:09 PM (bLnSU)

411 And someone else socklinked is upset with the Republicans' treasonous letter!

Posted by: andycanuck at March 09, 2015 11:11 PM (JCdoo)

412 Farmer, got your Lear gassed up for Oneida my friend?
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 10:51 PM

I'm ready. My email is in my nic, where should we meet up?

Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 11:11 PM (o/90i)

413 Eh, stupid browser settings.

The wars are warlike, Cooth. Kind of spent the last week half dead and still recovering. I hope.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 09, 2015 11:11 PM (bLnSU)

414 Anna Puma, Peaches and weft cut-loop: Fair points, all.

andycanuck, on the other hand: That's fighting dirty.

Posted by: JPS at March 09, 2015 11:11 PM (9ziuC)

415 Ooo ooh that smell
The smell that's around you..

To what is Lynrd Skynrd referring?

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 09, 2015 11:08 PM (/Wi/Y)




"..that smell of death surrounds you..."

Posted by: Country singer at March 09, 2015 11:12 PM (nL0sw)

416 Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 11:09 PM (hQhus)

Cocks head, curls lip on one side of snout and gives you the look, did I do that?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 11:12 PM (YOPoU)

417
Just left the gym.

Who else has a big yellow three-quarter moon in their sky tonight?

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 09, 2015 11:13 PM (/Wi/Y)

418 ruh-roh

Posted by: the talking dog at March 09, 2015 11:13 PM (JCdoo)

419 412: linky no worky for me. We can meet at any of the bars there. i think there is at least four of them. We should be able to find one that will serve us.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 11:13 PM (ucDmr)

420 I don't like the "pissing in the pool" letter to Iran, in theory.

But, since the pool is full of shit, it's not that big a deal.

Kind of like a the enemy of my enemy may be a jerk, but right now they're opposing my enemy... thing.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 09, 2015 11:14 PM (bLnSU)

421 The smell of death surrounds you.

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 11:15 PM (ahBY0)

422 Dang it Merovign, we really need a 23rd Century Star Fleet medical unit.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 11:15 PM (WjcKy)

423 How the hell can Megan even be alive if she is allergic to every form of sugar, since that is what the suffix -ose means? This person has a serious psychosis and the cards only serve to impose on those around her.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 09, 2015 11:16 PM (IdCqF)

424
Dang it Merovign, we really need a 23rd Century Star Fleet medical unit.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 11:15 PM (WjcKy)


Or a Known Space autodoc.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:16 PM (Gm0Ay)

425 Hey everybody.

Was up late last night watching bits and pieces of "Whacked Out Sports" and it reminded me of... Evel Knievel. Anybody else remember him?

I think he actually had a TV series about him for a short time back in the early or mid-1970s.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 09, 2015 11:16 PM (elbY7)

426 MH @ 416

Yeah, pretty much that "what're you looking at me for?" look...
I guess you're familiar with it.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 11:17 PM (hQhus)

427 Spelunkers in northern Israel find a cache of ancient treasures that includes coins from the time of Alexander the Great.

http://tinyurl.com/n4aebow

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 11:17 PM (WjcKy)

428 425: Steve!

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 11:17 PM (ucDmr)

429 Hey Chavez.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 09, 2015 11:18 PM (elbY7)

430 Dang it Merovign, we really need a 23rd Century Star Fleet medical unit.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 11:15 PM (WjcKy)
"Doctor gave me a pill I got a new kidney! Doctor gave me a pill I got a new kidney!"

Wait, does this mean I should be hanging around a park in the Bay Area looking for a Vulcan and a bunch of people in red uniforms?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 09, 2015 11:18 PM (bLnSU)

431 Ooo ooh that smell
The smell that's around you..

To what is Lynrd Skynrd referring?

Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at March 09, 2015 11:08 PM (/Wi/Y)

***
Context. This is a song about addiction. Correct verbiage is something like "The smell of death surrounds you".

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015 11:18 PM (XrHO0)

432 #423 And her list of beans has nothing in common with each other. Calling all of them by the English word "beans" doesn't make them all biologically etc. related.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 09, 2015 11:18 PM (JCdoo)

433 Coffee beans aren't beans. They are dried berries.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 09:37 PM (Gm0Ay)


Dried berry pits. Speaking of which, today I had a breath-taking idea:

We all know about Kopi Luak, which is coffee beans that have passed through the digestive tract of a type of Palm Civet--because civets force-fed coffee berries is so much more humane and fair trade than...anyways...

And we all know about Black Ivory, the coffee that is made by feeding coffee berries to elephants and digging them out of the resulting manure, because elephants are too special to exploit....well, anyways....

I plan to introduce Coffee Kindltot!

Coffee Kindltot is made from chocolate covered espresso beans that I suck the chocolate off and spit out because I get too wired crunching on coffee beans. I mean, I am more sanitary that something that is kept in a cage, am I right?

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2015 11:19 PM (t//F+)

434 haven't read the comments, but in my experience- if they say they don't like the Xanthengum, they are really just begging to get some Xangthengum... YMMV

Posted by: JDub (was BunkerintheBurbs) at March 09, 2015 11:19 PM (X3xYu)

435 My dog is an overweight (80 pounds) Weimaraner. Fitting that a German dog would try to gas my Jewish Family. I shouldn't be surprised.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 10:53 PM

LMAO, you are a sick, funny MOFO.

I found out a few yrs ago one line of my family is probably Jewish. Makes one take a different look at Holocaust when you discover it might have been some of your family.

Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 11:19 PM (o/90i)

436 426 MH @ 416

Yeah, pretty much that "what're you looking at me for?" look...
I guess you're familiar with it.
Posted by: shredded chi at March 09, 2015 11:17 PM (hQhus)

The little girl/runt who has had digestive probs all her life. Eh gadz the farts & burps

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 11:20 PM (YOPoU)

437 Wait, does this mean I should be hanging around a park in the Bay Area looking for a Vulcan and a bunch of people in red uniforms?

"Everyone remember where we parked"

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 09, 2015 11:20 PM (4gN5w)

438 Merovign, #420:

"I don't like the "pissing in the pool" letter to Iran, in theory.

"But, since the pool is full of shit, it's not that big a deal."

Thank you for the best foreign policy metaphor since Team America.

Posted by: JPS at March 09, 2015 11:20 PM (9ziuC)

439 To be a proper cadet review they should be wearing a more maroon color, not red. But other than that, why not?

And I should toddle off to write and edit. So far pared short story by about 1,500 words.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 11:21 PM (WjcKy)

440 Calling all of them by the English word "beans" doesn't make them all biologically etc. related.
Posted by: andycanuck


Well, you tell me now...

Posted by: Aristotle at March 09, 2015 11:21 PM (XvsbD)

441 390 Farmer did you see Gaylord Merkin Focker the Wurst's reaction to that letter to Iran? He got his thong all wee-wee'd up and twsited.
"I think it's somewhat ironic to see some members of Congress wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in Iran," Obama said a few hours after the letter was made public. "It's an unusual coalition."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 09, 2015 10:45 PM

I'm hoping that the latest reactions to his limp-wristed approach to Iran might move him. I doubt it, I think he's such an Islamic sympathizer it's hopeless.

I liked the Senate Reps firing off that letter. Hey, even McConnell signed it. Maybe he can find that missing backbone.
Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 11:02 PM (o/90i)


This dumbass has wanted to sit down at the table with every enemy of the US, even if it gives legitimacy to them.

No time for our long time allies, all the time in the world for our enemies.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper formerly MrCaniac at March 09, 2015 11:22 PM (+Fae7)

442 403 Where do they make that, and where is it sold? My little local liquor store doesn't have a huge selection of beers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:07 PM

Scotland. I get it at beverage warehouse.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 09, 2015 11:22 PM (z3HBe)

443 Heh, Evil was my brother's hero. They saw him jump in LA. Pics all over his bedroom walls, along with anyone else who rode a dirt bike.

Posted by: Infidel at March 09, 2015 11:23 PM (jwcHC)

444
Context. This is a song about addiction.

Yes, the song refers to the monkey on your back.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lambda Lambda Lambda at March 09, 2015 11:23 PM (/Wi/Y)

445 "Beans" you say?

Similar thing happened with either Columbus or Cortez, from what I've read. One of them called anything that was spicy-tasting "peppers" as they were used to black pepper.

Of course, today's proper term for most spicy-tasting plants is "chile."

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 09, 2015 11:23 PM (elbY7)

446 Evel Knievel. Anybody else remember him?


Not all of us were born in the last 20 minutes, whippersnapper! I remember when he tried the Snake River thing. IIRC, it was shortly after I'd left my first husband.



Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 11:24 PM (EgOr3)

447 Iran is opposing ISIS because they are staking their own claim to territory.


Think the role of Russia in WWII. Afterwards they gobbled up land and we let them. I think a quid pro quo is in effect. They fight ISIS. They get to control what they take, and get the bomb. They get control over Libya, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Yemen. With designs on Jordan, Egypt, Saudi, Qatar

Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 09, 2015 11:25 PM (zOTsN)

448 On the allergy topic, a salty old horsewoman of my acquaintance said about raising kids, by the time they're ten, they should have eaten a pound of dirt. My wife was visiting her once, and they were in the barn looking at horses with her grand-kids running around. The youngest dropped her pacifier on the barn floor and the horsewoman picked it up gave it a good brushing off and handed it back to the toddler. None of her kids or grand-kids ever had any allergy problems.



Now she'd probably get put in jail for that.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 09, 2015 11:25 PM (ftVQq)

449 Infidel/Peaches, yep. Thanks for backing me up.

From what I've read, it seems like Knievel's track record for successful jumps and other feats of derring-do was... not that great, even though it also sounds like he was quite and interesting and decent person.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 09, 2015 11:25 PM (elbY7)

450 Of course, today's proper term for most spicy-tasting plants is "chile."
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 09, 2015 11:23

I guess that is shorter than, Fuck, that was fucking hot.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 11:25 PM (YOPoU)

451
I jumped Snake River.

Posted by: Brian Williams at March 09, 2015 11:25 PM (/Wi/Y)

452 No time for our long time allies, all the time in the world for our enemies.

Traitorin' ain't easy.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 09, 2015 11:26 PM (UVfht)

453 446: Like Evil thought that through. I am not a rocket surgeon, but no way in hell did that have chance.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 11:26 PM (ucDmr)

454 Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2015 11:19 PM (t//F+)

Sorry, we'll still have to keep you in a cage.

Posted by: eman at March 09, 2015 11:26 PM (MQEz6)

455 You know, if Obama went "civet" and ate/pooped out the beans, he could sell the beans and probably make a mint selling "Obama coffee" to the media...

Posted by: The Civet's Hat at March 09, 2015 11:26 PM (0Ew3K)

456 steve, his success rate wasn't all that good but the guy had major balls and a helluva gift for pr!

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 11:26 PM (EgOr3)

457
Iran opposing ISIS is like Pepsi opposing Coke.
It's merely a matter of market share..

Posted by: Brian Williams at March 09, 2015 11:27 PM (/Wi/Y)

458 I found out a few yrs ago one line of my family is probably Jewish. Makes one take a different look at Holocaust when you discover it might have been some of your family.
Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 11:19 PM (o/90i)
**********
In-Laws are survivors. They are part of the permanent exhibit at the US Holocaust Museum in DC. Haunting to hear my Father in Laws voice since he has passed.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 11:27 PM (fLKzW)

459 Not sure what year he started but I loved watching Evil dump his bike. Thought he was cool as shit.

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 11:27 PM (ahBY0)

460 446 Evel Knievel. Anybody else remember him?

Not all of us were born in the last 20 minutes, whippersnapper! I remember when he tried the Snake River thing. IIRC, it was shortly after I'd left my first husband.

Posted by: Peaches

So, in a round about way, you are saying you are Vic's little sister?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 11:28 PM (YOPoU)

461 Peaches, exactly.

Wikipedia says Evel has the all-time record for one person with the most broken bones in his lifetime.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 09, 2015 11:28 PM (elbY7)

462 Obama can suck it. He wasn't even president yet and was flying around the world in his fucking pretend AF1 pissing in Bush's foreign affairs. Fuck that Kenyan inner tube racer.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 09, 2015 11:28 PM (FMbng)

463 I wish the prezzy have a quarter of the balls Evil had.

And, yes, he was a good man.

Posted by: Infidel at March 09, 2015 11:28 PM (jwcHC)

464 456: True that Peaches. I'm out everybody. sleep well morons.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 11:28 PM (ucDmr)

465
Aren't we all kinda descendants of the First Jews?

I mean the First Jews who financed the Big Bang, of course.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:29 PM (/Wi/Y)

466 I remember Evil's Ceasars Palace jump. Didn't go well. He was on the idiot box quite a bit in the 70's

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 09, 2015 11:29 PM (fLKzW)

467 I remember seeing Evel Knievel in a Hollywood, CA, night club, back around 1970. Me and some buddies went on a road trip, playing hooky from university. Of course, none of us had the nerve to approach him.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:29 PM (Gm0Ay)

468 Nite Chavez

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 11:30 PM (YOPoU)

469 So, in a round about way, you are saying you are Vic's little sister?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 11:28 PM (YOPoU)
Not sure, and never wanted to get into it, but we might have dated.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 11:30 PM (EgOr3)

470 Remember when Evil jumped all those buses in The Astrodome?

Remember when there was an Astrodome?

Good times...

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 09, 2015 11:30 PM (4gN5w)

471 If Cochran isn't doing something, he's respecting the wishes of his constituents.

Cochran is "owned" by the black community in his state. They said as much:
http://tinyurl.com/m3h4oc4

What percentage of this community holds to the tenets of Judaism?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 09, 2015 11:31 PM (AVEe1)

472
Celebrity Bowling is on, this episode has on, get this, "Grady" from Sanford & Son!

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:31 PM (/Wi/Y)

473 460 So, in a round about way, you are saying you are Vic's little sister?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 11:28 PM (YOPoU)

= : O


Runaway! Runaway!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 09, 2015 11:31 PM (z3HBe)

474 470
Good times...
Posted by: AltonJackson at March

So there was a SE Michigan momee?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 11:32 PM (YOPoU)

475 LOL Alton. Reminds me of the old 70's DVD my little bro got me of the Raiders. The glory days.

Posted by: Infidel at March 09, 2015 11:32 PM (jwcHC)

476 Look at all the words!

When did Ace get the idea to post a movie review on the ONT?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 09, 2015 11:33 PM (KBR3U)

477 Yeah, I know - ugly thing to say.

But Cochran proved himself a pretty savvy operator in what Mississippians think. He knows his base.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 09, 2015 11:33 PM (AVEe1)

478 Celebrity Bowling is on, this episode has on, get this, "Grady" from Sanford Son!

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:31 PM (/Wi/Y)


Andy Warhol proved right again. The fifteen minutes of fame thing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:33 PM (Gm0Ay)

479 What percentage of this community holds to the tenets of Judaism?
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 09, 2015 11

10 Commandments? Never heard of them

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 11:33 PM (YOPoU)

480 David Brock should be made to wear a futuristic-looking one-piece suit in some shiny fabric. Like, all the fuckin' time.

Posted by: HAL at March 09, 2015 11:34 PM (OmBeX)

481 Evening horde. We are pass to 250



I just got out my SW 357 mag. What a piece of work.


Heavy, but hell, it needs to be

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 09, 2015 11:34 PM (0FSuD)

482 As far as I know Knievel was both A ) a plastic toy line , B ) an asshole.

Then again, Psych ( that was a TV Show for you oldsters...) did a parody episode based on his ass.

Posted by: Aristotle at March 09, 2015 11:34 PM (XvsbD)

483
But Cochran proved himself a pretty savvy operator in what Mississippians think. He knows his base.

It kinda shows me that the Republican Machine knows how to win when it *wants* to.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:34 PM (/Wi/Y)

484 With a collar. A big, honkin' bad-guy collar.

Posted by: HAL at March 09, 2015 11:35 PM (OmBeX)

485 David Brock should be made to wear a futuristic-looking one-piece suit in some shiny fabric. Like, all the fuckin' time.

Posted by: HAL at March 09, 2015 11:34 PM (OmBeX)



He looks like what you'd see if the guy being fried in the electric chair didn't have a helmet on.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:35 PM (Gm0Ay)

486 So there was a SE Michigan momee?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 11:32 PM


Not yet, but we're forming an exploratory committee...

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 09, 2015 11:35 PM (4gN5w)

487 It kinda shows me that the Republican Machine knows how to win when it *wants* to.





Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:34 PM (/Wi/Y)
Mitt Romeny in 2012 Primaries didn't convince you? They only really fight like Democrats against other Republicans - that is a problem.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 09, 2015 11:36 PM (KBR3U)

488
I dunno, "Grady" is indelible, ...whatever that means. He lives in my memory forever.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:36 PM (/Wi/Y)

489 This is my last machine with firefox... off to opera to fix that.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 09, 2015 11:37 PM (KBR3U)

490 I dunno, "Grady" is indelible, ...whatever that means. He lives in my memory forever.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:36 PM (/Wi/Y)


"Indelible" is the opposite of "inedible". Hillary Clinton is inedible.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:37 PM (Gm0Ay)

491
There are lots of examples. Allen West was driven out of Congress by...Republicans.

Same with Dan Quayle's son.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:37 PM (/Wi/Y)

492 No time for our long time allies, all the time in the world for our enemies.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper formerly MrCaniac at March 09, 2015 11:22 PM

It's almost like he's working against America's best interests. Go figure.

Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 11:38 PM (o/90i)

493 I saw at another site (Hot Air?) that Firefox is dying.

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of PC Stalinist thugs.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 09, 2015 11:38 PM (elbY7)

494 Because I'm a giver and this thread is getting a little slow, I am going to repost the pseudo-link to this hilarious youtube thing about where daylight saving time really came from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br0NW9ufUUw

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 11:38 PM (EgOr3)

495 484
With a collar. A big, honkin' bad-guy collar.

Posted by: HAL at March 09, 2015 11:35 PM (OmBeX)


With all this talk of flatulent canines, are you sure you don't mean, "with a collie"?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 09, 2015 11:39 PM (T1005)

496 Evening horde.

Sucks to be you Megan.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 09, 2015 11:39 PM (/cvEu)

497 I am thinking the 357 needs to be in the car,


If you are going to pull out a gun, don't fcuk around.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 09, 2015 11:39 PM (0FSuD)

498 Tonight I'm in Des Moines at the Iowa Renewal Project. I saw Ted Cruz and Bobby Jindal speak. Neat stuff.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at March 09, 2015 11:39 PM (Z3S8c)

499 490 "Indelible" is the opposite of "inedible". Hillary Clinton is inedible.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:37 PM

Uhhhh...

Posted by: Huma at March 09, 2015 11:39 PM (z3HBe)

500 Very, very surprised it wasn't Meahghayn.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 09, 2015 11:40 PM (/cvEu)

501 Very, very surprised it wasn't Meahghayn.

she's probably allergic to h's and y's

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 11:40 PM (EgOr3)

502
speaking of...

has Megan McCain said anything stupid lately?

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:41 PM (/Wi/Y)

503 497 I am thinking the 357 needs to be in the car,


If you are going to pull out a gun, don't fcuk around.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 09, 2015 11:39 PM (0FSuD)

Umm, you've heard of a Derringer right?

Why F around with a 357?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 09, 2015 11:41 PM (/cvEu)

504 has Megan McCain said anything stupid lately?

Not since she discovered Hot Pockets pizza snacks...

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 09, 2015 11:42 PM (elbY7)

505 If only these were brains!
( * Y * )

Posted by: meeeghan mccain at March 09, 2015 11:42 PM (JCdoo)

506
Perry Mason is on, (which I never liked). The Skipper is in this episode. Alan Hale Jr was a handsome man.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:42 PM (/Wi/Y)

507 she's probably allergic to h's and y's

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 11:40 PM (EgOr3)

Poor little extra special snowflake.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 09, 2015 11:42 PM (/cvEu)

508 An assault derringer with a bayonet lug!

Posted by: andycanuck at March 09, 2015 11:42 PM (JCdoo)

509 Here's Evil at Caesars, the memories...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYGGCVE2lKY

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 11:43 PM (ahBY0)

510 493
I saw at another site (Hot Air?) that Firefox is dying.



Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of PC Stalinist thugs.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 09, 2015 11:38 PM (elbY7)
That was happening well before the CEO kerfluffle. I tried writing a plug in for firefox a few years ago... what a mess. They changed the browser architecture a few years back, but the documentation pages were all outdated. I went back a year later - same story. What took me a few hours in Google Chrome I couldn't figure out in Firefox at all, and their online IDE was more trouble that it was worth.They were in trouble before they fired their CEO for thought crimes - it is obviously a very distracted organization...

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 09, 2015 11:43 PM (KBR3U)

511
I saw Ted Cruz and Bobby Jindal speak. Neat stuff.

If these two were smart, they'd team up and campaign together all the time.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:43 PM (/Wi/Y)

512 Could always use the .700 WTF round.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 09, 2015 11:43 PM (/cvEu)

513 I found out a few yrs ago one line of my family is probably Jewish. Makes one take a different look at Holocaust when you discover it might have been some of your family.
Posted by: Farmer at March 09, 2015 11:19 PM (o/90i)


I know what you mean. My grandmother's sister was tattooed, and she was roman catholic Italian. The silly thing is my grandmother was born here, but went back to Italy when she was 1 year old. She came back in '38 when she saw the writing on the wall, but her sister stayed behind because she couldn't get all her family over here at once, and got way screwed. My grandmother left my grandfather there and came here 9 months before he could with half the kids, and 7 months pregnant with my father. Her sister's family ended up in one labor camp somewhere, but managed to escape by hiding in a truck among some dead bodies. From what I understood, they were fairly sympathetic to the anti Mussolini forces, and granny's 16 year old niece did threaten to kill some Nazi if he tried to conscript her brother. I would imagine they were viewed as a royal pain in the ass. They survived though.

They were also life long republicans.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 09, 2015 11:44 PM (FMbng)

514 Who's next?

25 States Are Now Right-to-Work States http://dailysign.al/1C1YkMk @DailySignal

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 09, 2015 11:44 PM (ZPrif)

515 If only these were brains!
( * Y * )


Posted by: meeeghan mccain at March 09, 2015 11:42 PM (JCdoo)
except then nobody could see your tattoos, dear.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 11:45 PM (EgOr3)

516 This is my last machine with firefox... off to opera to fix that.


Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 09, 2015 11:37 PM (KBR3U)


Get Pale Moon. It is basically the old version of Firefox, without all the PC baggage. You can copy your Firefox profile and bookmarks over to it, and they will work. I am happy with it. And the screen layout is just like FF.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:45 PM (Gm0Ay)

517 Allergic to sugars ending in -ose? You'd be dead.

Which would explain a lot, actually.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 09, 2015 11:45 PM (2yngH)

518
Anyone remember when Tony Robbins was a joke?

I have no idea how it happened, but in the last 10-15 years Robbins has become a legit guru. This clown has absolutely nothing original to say and yet...

Right now, WE are paying for him to be on the taxpayer-funded tv sitcom that Charlie Rose hosts on PBS.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:47 PM (/Wi/Y)

519 Get Pale Moon. It is basically the old version of
Firefox, without all the PC baggage. You can copy your Firefox profile
and bookmarks over to it, and they will work. I am happy with it. And
the screen layout is just like FF.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:45 PM (Gm0Ay)
I looked at it today, and the bookmark transfer is good to know about. Thanks!

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 09, 2015 11:47 PM (KBR3U)

520 Could always use the .700 WTF round.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 09, 2015 11:43 PM


Those are explosive tracers, right?

Posted by: LIV at March 09, 2015 11:47 PM (4gN5w)

521 Although for basic web-surfing I have found Opera to be very zippy.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 09, 2015 11:47 PM (KBR3U)

522 They were also life long republicans.
Posted by: Berserker

They were life long good people
Fify

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 11:49 PM (YOPoU)

523 Ahhhh... So much better.

Thanks, Opera!

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 09, 2015 11:49 PM (KBR3U)

524 except then nobody could see your tattoos, dear.

Posted by: meeeghan mccain at March 09, 2015 11:49 PM (JCdoo)

525 >>Perry Mason is on, (which I never liked). The Skipper is in this episode. Alan Hale Jr was a handsome man.

I think he just died.

Posted by: Aviator at March 09, 2015 11:49 PM (sQzB6)

526 Dartist, I remember that. Looks like he just missed by inches.

Posted by: Infidel at March 09, 2015 11:49 PM (jwcHC)

527 Firefox was pretty stable for a while, and then suddenly it went from 4.x to 36.x now in a pretty short amount of time. It upgrades faster than IE. And security is a bitch.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 09, 2015 11:50 PM (AxABj)

528 Ah, now we know the truth.

I haven't been to Chicago since Rahm took office, but apparently the little shit decided to shake the citizens down by plastering the place with speed cameras.

Ergo he deserves to be thrown out on general principles and if I were a Chicago voter I'd vote for anyone else just to send Twinkletoes a message.

Posted by: JEM at March 09, 2015 11:50 PM (o+SC1)

529
The Skipper died a long time ago. Like almost 20 yrs, I think.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:51 PM (/Wi/Y)

530
Gilligan croaked a few years ago.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:51 PM (/Wi/Y)

531 Get Pale Moon. It is basically the old version of Firefox, without all the PC baggage. You can copy your Firefox profile and bookmarks over to it, and they will work. I am happy with it. And the screen layout is just like FF.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Slight caveat is warranted here: Pale Moon is the product of one dedicated coder.

He may be the nicest guy in the world, but a perfect, untargetable human he is not.

And, no, there is no 'perfect' browser, but forewarned is forearmed ... or forelegged ... foreeyed?

Posted by: Aristotle at March 09, 2015 11:51 PM (XvsbD)

532 I looked at it today, and the bookmark transfer is good to know about. Thanks!


Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 09, 2015 11:47 PM (KBR3U)


Not just bookmarks, but profiles, passwords, the whole nine yards. It basically is the old FF engine, minus a bunch of the cruft. I imported the profile by copying the {yadayada} profile from FF, renaming to the name of the default profile from the new install of Pale Moon, and pasting it in. If it doesn't work, you aren't destroying anything.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:52 PM (Gm0Ay)

533 528 I haven't been to Chicago since Rahm took office, but apparently the little shit decided to shake the citizens down by plastering the place with speed cameras.

Yeah, and I read that when one of his challengers was campaigning on getting rid of the abominable things, his retort was "and how are you going to replace the revenue?"

They're not even pretending anymore.

Posted by: Splunge at March 09, 2015 11:52 PM (qyomX)

534 Those are explosive tracers, right?

Posted by: LIV at March 09, 2015 11:47 PM (4gN5w)

Even worse. 1132 grains of Gaia hating lead moving at 1800fps.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 09, 2015 11:53 PM (/cvEu)

535 And, no, there is no 'perfect' browser, but forewarned is forearmed ... or forelegged ... foreeyed?

Posted by: Aristotle at March 09, 2015 11:51 PM


foreskinned?

Posted by: Hey, someone had to say it at March 09, 2015 11:53 PM (4gN5w)

536 >>The Skipper died a long time ago. Like almost 20 yrs, I think.

Cute. I meant on the Perry Mason episode.

Posted by: Aviator at March 09, 2015 11:53 PM (sQzB6)

537 Slight caveat is warranted here: Pale Moon is the product of one dedicated coder.



He may be the nicest guy in the world, but a perfect, untargetable human he is not.



And, no, there is no 'perfect' browser, but forewarned is forearmed ... or forelegged ... foreeyed?

Posted by: Aristotle at March 09, 2015 11:51 PM (XvsbD)


Well, it works for me now. I used to use Opera, but there were issues with that, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:54 PM (Gm0Ay)

538 Medicare kicking my ass
So i bid youmgoodnight moron horde
Be well

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 09, 2015 11:55 PM (YOPoU)

539 Oops.

2300fps

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 09, 2015 11:55 PM (/cvEu)

540
Oh I stopped watching Perry Mason.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:55 PM (/Wi/Y)

541
The other night a great episode of Alfred Hitchcock was on starring Telly Savalas and Darren McGavin. It was brilliant.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:56 PM (/Wi/Y)

542 I misunderstood you about the Skipper too, Aviator.
Sorry.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 09, 2015 11:56 PM (JCdoo)

543 'Night MH

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 09, 2015 11:56 PM (/cvEu)

544 Even worse. 1132 grains of Gaia hating lead moving at 1800fps.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 09, 2015 11:53 PM


Just as long as they're not extended capacity bullet-holder thingies what go up

Posted by: LIV at March 09, 2015 11:56 PM (4gN5w)

545 502
speaking of...

has Megan McCain said anything stupid lately?
Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:41 PM (/Wi/Y)



Probably.

But since her daddy wasn't running in 2012, the left no longer needs her as their useful idiot.

Funny that from 2008 to 2012 she was every where, and even had her own TV show. Since 2012, not a peep.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper formerly MrCaniac at March 09, 2015 11:57 PM (+Fae7)

546 Oh I stopped watching Perry Mason.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:55 PM (/Wi/Y)


So that's why they aren't producing it anymore. That, and Raymond Burr croaked.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:57 PM (Gm0Ay)

547 And I've had no problems with Pale Moon since I switched as soon as the "voluntary resignation" was forced last year.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 09, 2015 11:57 PM (JCdoo)

548 >>Oh I stopped watching Perry Mason.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot

I get a kick out of these old shows. Everybody wears a coat and tie, smoke like chimneys.

Posted by: Aviator at March 09, 2015 11:57 PM (sQzB6)

549 Carter USM, good grief charlie brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7Lv0wAvCHM

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 09, 2015 11:58 PM (AVEe1)

550
I was raised by the men and women on these old shows.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:59 PM (/Wi/Y)

551 @533 - Speed cameras are the product of a totalitarian mindset.

Posted by: JEM at March 09, 2015 11:59 PM (o+SC1)

552
Do you know how badly I wanted to be a Clampett?

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:59 PM (/Wi/Y)

553 I do not know whether Megan actually is allergic to all of those things or if she is "allergic" like all the special little snowflakes that suddenly can't eat gluten. If the former rather than the latter, she has my sympathy. My middle child had sooooo many allergies from the time he was born. He came home with what looked like cradle cap but was actually an allergy to shampoo that the doctor did not recognize until his scalp was bleeding and raw. He had to use Dove unscented soap to wash everything including his hair until he was about 7. The first time he had rice cereal (mixed with a formula sample that the hospital sent us home with), he broke out from head to toe in an ugly rash and hives. He was allergic to the milk base of the formula. He ate a plain MM cookie when he was about two and went into anaphylactic shock from the peanut oil on the outer candy shell of the MMs. The first time he walked barefoot in grass, you could see the rash climbing up his legs. He once got hives from having a cold. His doctor used to say that he was a giant antibody just waiting to react. Thankfully, he has outgrown almost all of his (food) allergies over his 19 years. It sucks trying to feed someone enough when they can't eat much:-(

Posted by: redbanzai at March 10, 2015 12:00 AM (afouc)

554 I get a kick out of these old shows. Everybody wears a coat and tie, smoke like chimneys.


Posted by: Aviator at March 09, 2015 11:57 PM (sQzB6)


There was definitely more class and style evident back in the day. And Barbara Hale (Della Street) was teh Hawt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 12:00 AM (Gm0Ay)

555 Do you know how badly I wanted to be a water-tower repairman in Petticoat Junction? Wooo-wooo!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at March 10, 2015 12:00 AM (JCdoo)

556 Do you know how badly I wanted to be a Clampett?

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 09, 2015 11:59 PM


I'd have settled for being the guy what cleaned the Clampett's cement pond

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 10, 2015 12:01 AM (4gN5w)

557 My are crossing. G'nite horde, sleep tight.

Posted by: Infidel at March 10, 2015 12:01 AM (jwcHC)

558 Anyone comes near me with 'Mama's Family' they will be shot.

Damn creepy ass cannibals.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 10, 2015 12:02 AM (/cvEu)

559 Oh boy: Mien Kampf is going to be reprinted in Germany. Annotated to show what a piece of garbage it is of course... but still. And Hitler's copyright expires later this year.

Link to story at Breitbart.
http://tinyurl.com/nf7fbb4

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 10, 2015 12:02 AM (elbY7)

560 'Night Infidel

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 10, 2015 12:03 AM (/cvEu)

561 I enjoyed watching Perry Mason shows when I was in grade school although I can't recall if the syndicated repeats were on at noon and I caught them at lunch or on after school in the late afternoon.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 10, 2015 12:03 AM (JCdoo)

562 Well, it works for me now. I used to use Opera, but there were issues with that, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


And how. My minor complaint has always been Opera's mouse options; they suck.

The scroll settings never stuck.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:03 AM (XvsbD)

563 >>There was definitely more class and style evident back in the day. And Barbara Hale (Della Street) was teh Hawt.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I remember my parents watching the show on TV when I was a little kid. I also remember dressing up to fly on the airlines.

Posted by: Aviator at March 10, 2015 12:04 AM (sQzB6)

564 This brouhaha about Mein Kampf being reprinted in Germany is two decades too late, at least.

Hello? The Internet? F@cking gopher had that shit available even before 1995.

Censorship is damage; the Internet routes around it, and makes what's censored more popular.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:05 AM (AVEe1)

565 I do not know whether Megan actually is allergic to all of those things or if she is "allergic" like all the special little snowflakes that suddenly can't eat gluten.
Posted by: redbanzai


Know what I'm allergic too?

SOLID WALLS OF TEXT WITHOUT CARRIAGE RETURNS

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:06 AM (XvsbD)

566 Somebody asked about PGiS. Saw her a couple months ago. She asked a question and got ignored. Have not seen here since.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 10, 2015 12:06 AM (wQ7l/)

567 Thanks for the fun you all.

Have to take the little one out.

Missed you last night rich, she's a Chocolate Lab, 7 weeks old yesterday. Just a lot of entertainment.

Posted by: Farmer at March 10, 2015 12:07 AM (o/90i)

568 Gopher from The Love Boat was a Nazi?!?!?!?!?

Posted by: qdp "easily misunderstanding" steve at March 10, 2015 12:08 AM (elbY7)

569 Mmm. Chocolate Lab.

Posted by: president o'bumbles at March 10, 2015 12:08 AM (JCdoo)

570
Have to take the little one out.

Heh, funny euphemism about having to urinate, but damn that's a harsh way to refer to one's penis.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 10, 2015 12:09 AM (/Wi/Y)

571 516
This is my last machine with firefox... off to opera to fix that.




Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at March 09, 2015 11:37 PM (KBR3U)


Get
Pale Moon. It is basically the old version of Firefox, without all the
PC baggage. You can copy your Firefox profile and bookmarks over to it,
and they will work. I am happy with it. And the screen layout is just
like FF.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 09, 2015 11:45 PM (Gm0Ay)


......and FF plugins still work, like Do Not Track (now Blur), Greasemonkey, and AdBlock+.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 12:09 AM (T1005)

572 Mmm. Chocolate Lab.

And your side of collie a jus, sir.

Posted by: White House Server Staff at March 10, 2015 12:10 AM (elbY7)

573
Youtube flashed a message on the screen telling me they won't be supporting my versions of firefox for much longer.

I'm pretty sure I can't upgade FF anymore because I'm still running XP. So...it's a conspiracy.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 10, 2015 12:11 AM (/Wi/Y)

574 I wish offices would go back to suits and ties, if for no other reason than to save us all from the horror of blue shirts and chinos. I feel sorry for men. Women have far more options when it comes to office attire, although some push it way too far in the slutty direction.

Posted by: Lauren at March 10, 2015 12:11 AM (MYCIw)

575 OK, trying out Pale Moon. M O O N, that spells Moon. I'm actually surprised that they are printing Mein Kampf in Germany. The Horst Wessel Lied has been banned since WWII, the same with "Triumph of the Will" by Leni Reifenstahl. Includes "Deutchesland Uber Alles". What surprises me even more, is that there is a movement in Germany that wants to kick out all the muzzies and nationalism is really starting to rise there. It could get very interesting.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 12:12 AM (AxABj)

576 Hello? The Internet? F@cking gopher had that shit available even before 1995.



Censorship is damage; the Internet routes around it, and makes what's censored more popular.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:05 AM (AVEe1)


They has a copy of Mein Kampf in the library at my high school in Vancouver in 1966 or thereabouts. I tried reading it (it was English translation). Totally tedious crap. Nothing edgy or dangerous about it. I'm sure people in Germany didn't buy it to read it. They bought it so as to be seen to own it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 12:12 AM (Gm0Ay)

577 Hokey smokes, Batman: I gotta be on a conference call with colleagues in Poland in less than five & a half hours...

*types*
*deletes*

tomorrow night, mi amigos

g'night, Andrew

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 10, 2015 12:12 AM (4gN5w)

578 Hey MWNP, go take a look at the ACP page now, lol.


For those that missed it earlier, the American Conservative Party site got hacked by some Indonesian neckbeards. I guess they didn't like our criticisms of their boy Obumbles.


Link to our party page in nick.

Posted by: Country singer at March 10, 2015 12:13 AM (nL0sw)

579
Old Sailor's Poet was here today, that was nice.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 10, 2015 12:13 AM (/Wi/Y)

580 Why F around with a 357?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 09, 2015 11:41 PM (/cvEu)

Actually I put a snub nosed detective SW special 38 in car with P+ ammo.
About the same as a 357

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 10, 2015 12:13 AM (0FSuD)

581
Doesn't it get rather silly when we reach the point when we treat a frikkin book like it contains black magic and was printed in Hell?

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 10, 2015 12:15 AM (/Wi/Y)

582 Hell, Peaches and Merovign were right here on this thread....that hasn't happened in far too long.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 12:15 AM (T1005)

583 Hey MWNP, go take a look at the ACP page now, lol.


For those that missed it earlier, the American Conservative Party site got hacked by some Indonesian neckbeards. I guess they didn't like our criticisms of their boy Obumbles.


Link to our party page in nick.
Posted by: Country singer at March 10, 2015 12:13 AM (nL0sw)

******

Uummm, just looked. Still spazzed out.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 10, 2015 12:16 AM (cIoI4)

584 Doesn't it get rather silly when we reach the point when we treat a frikkin book like it contains black magic and was printed in Hell?

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 10, 2015 12:15 AM (/Wi/Y)




Whatever do you mean?

Posted by: The DNC Handbook at March 10, 2015 12:16 AM (nL0sw)

585
Yes, I know what "vitriol" is. 'Cause I'm a chemist, dammit!

As for Megan, the card-carrying brainiac -- all sugars' names end in "-ose", last time I checked.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at March 10, 2015 12:16 AM (bWFHa)

586 581


Doesn't it get rather silly when we reach the point when we treat a
frikkin book like it contains black magic and was printed in Hell?





Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 10, 2015 12:15 AM (/Wi/Y)


Sssst! They're onto us!

Don't be silly, Adolf -- and make sure the margins are correct.

Posted by: Hell's Printshop at March 10, 2015 12:17 AM (T1005)

587 I've not read Mein Kampf myself. I just know that the best way to discredit a shitty book is to make it widely available. Like the Communist Manifesto - which I did read. And yes, it's shite.

Speaking. Of:

Piketty wants backsies on his book:
http://tinyurl.com/mu7djrx

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:17 AM (AVEe1)

588 Doesn't it get rather silly when we reach the point when we treat a frikkin book like it contains black magic and was printed in Hell?

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 10, 2015 12:15 AM


We see it as a cautionary tale.

Others see it as an instruction manual

g'night, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 10, 2015 12:17 AM (4gN5w)

589 Uummm, just looked. Still spazzed out.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 10, 2015 12:16 AM (cIoI4)



LOL, look closer. Yeah, the graphic is still there. read the actual words, though.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 10, 2015 12:17 AM (nL0sw)

590 Doesn't it get rather silly when we reach the point
when we treat a frikkin book like it contains black magic and was
printed in Hell?





Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 10, 2015 12:15 AM (/Wi/Y)


Well, some would state that the koran, in fact, fits that description. But Mein Kampf is just plain tedious; several hundred pages of Schicklgruber feeling sorry for himself.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 12:17 AM (Gm0Ay)

591 Allergic to sugars ending in -ose? You'd be dead.

Which would explain a lot, actually.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 09, 2015 11:45 PM (2yngH)


Chemistry is just a social construct...

Posted by: Critical Chemical Studies Major (with a minor in THC) at March 10, 2015 12:17 AM (0Ew3K)

592 Looks like Megan isn't allergic to wheat, so at least she can have flour.


I'm curled up with the NyQuil bottle until I feel better or until I'm out of NyQuil, whatever happens first.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 10, 2015 12:17 AM (6fyGz)

593 Censorship is damage; the Internet routes around it, and makes what's censored more popular.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:05 AM (AVEe1)


Not anymore!

Posted by: The FCC at March 10, 2015 12:18 AM (0Ew3K)

594 574 I wish offices would go back to suits and ties, if for no other reason than to save us all from the horror of blue shirts and chinos. I feel sorry for men. Women have far more options when it comes to office attire, although some push it way too far in the slutty direction.

Posted by: Lauren at March 10, 2015 12:11 AM (MYCIw)




You don't get it. Men don't give a rat's ass about options. We're perfectly happy to wear blue shirts and chinos in perpetuity.


My older son bought half a dozen identical shirts before he went off to college. Proof positive that he's my boy.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:18 AM (oKE6c)

595 The DNC just released their review of the new Kampf, btw.

They're calling it the feel-good fantasy read of the summer. :-(

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 10, 2015 12:19 AM (elbY7)

596
I never read either Mein Kampf or Marx's Communist Manifesto, but I'm gonna assume they're similar and tell people so.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 10, 2015 12:19 AM (/Wi/Y)

597 As for Megan, the card-carrying brainiac -- all sugars' names end in "-ose", last time I checked.





Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at March 10, 2015 12:16 AM (bWFHa)


Megan's last words: "Oooh, vitriol! Ends in "ol" just like alcohol, and alcohol is real good. Bottoms up!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 12:20 AM (Gm0Ay)

598 Know what I'm allergic too?



SOLID WALLS OF TEXT WITHOUT CARRIAGE RETURNS

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:06 AM (XvsbD)




LOL... I did hit enter. Just not enough times for it to add a blank line, apparently:-P

Posted by: redbanzai at March 10, 2015 12:20 AM (afouc)

599 I mean, good heavens, even the Koran is supposed to be "touched not but by the purified", Q. 56:79. If the Koran were more widely known, fewer people would think it worth following.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:21 AM (AVEe1)

600 Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:18 AM (oKE6c)


Wasn't there something a while back about a local news anchor that wore the exact same thing for a year and no one noticed, then the female co-anchor wore something twice in a row and everyone freaked out?

Posted by: Country Singer at March 10, 2015 12:21 AM (nL0sw)

601 "We're perfectly happy to wear blue shirts and chinos in perpetuity.
"

Haha, oh I get it. My grandpa wore the same outfit every day that I was alive. Brown dockers and a pink shirt. There were a few shades of pink in there, but that was as varied as it got.

He was a mechanic though, so poor grandma had a hell of a time getting the grease out of those shirts. She somehow managed due to some sort of laundry voodoo.

Posted by: Lauren at March 10, 2015 12:21 AM (MYCIw)

602 Well, some would state that the koran, in fact, fits that description. But Mein Kampf is just plain tedious; several hundred pages of Schicklgruber feeling sorry for himself.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 12:17 AM (Gm0Ay)



I have to disagree, I'm afraid. I expected an anti-Semitic tub thumper, and while God knows that's in there, there's a lot of abstract consideration of geopolitics (which I'm not endorsing, mind you, but it's light years above confusion about which nation speaks which language).


In many respects, it's reminiscent of Das Kapital; clearly the product of a superior but seriously misguided intellect, and intrinsically hopelessly flawed.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:22 AM (oKE6c)

603 Well, some would state that the koran, in fact, fits that description.
But Mein Kampf is just plain tedious; several hundred pages of
Schicklgruber feeling sorry for himself.
--------
After the National Socialists took control of the government, people getting married were automatically given a copy of Mein Kampf. Every good German was supposed to know the thoughts of the Fuehrer. He even had some thoughts on why syphilis was a bad thing and probably brought to Germany by the Jooos!

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 12:22 AM (AxABj)

604 I read a criticism of Piketty's book, but I never read it.

So, is he really supporting his thesis by using facts from 19th century novellas?

If fiction is OK to use as source material in seminal works of economics, shouldn't he be going to the original materials like Raymond Lull and the Troubadours before him about the true meaning of economics?

Posted by: Kindltot at March 10, 2015 12:23 AM (t//F+)

605 LOL, look closer. Yeah, the graphic is still there. read the actual words, though.
Posted by: Country Singer at March 10, 2015 12:17 AM (nL0sw

*****

Sure, got that. Access to anything they Have to say is gone, but they do have a smartass graphic up. Cool.....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 10, 2015 12:23 AM (cIoI4)

606 Just not enough times for it to add a blank line, apparently:-P
Posted by: redbanzai


S'all good. I was just harrassing the new nic.

Lurker, or?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:24 AM (XvsbD)

607 Found it: http://tinyurl.com/pbqyxsv


No mention of the co-anchor wearing something twice in a row, though. Just commentary that people always noticed her hair and clothes, but not his.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 10, 2015 12:24 AM (nL0sw)

608 596 I never read either Mein Kampf or Marx's Communist Manifesto, but I'm gonna assume they're similar and tell people so.

Posted by: Soothsayer And The Mysterious Zionist Plot at March 10, 2015 12:19 AM (/Wi/Y)



I've read them both, and the Communist Manifesto is a page turner compared to Das Kapital.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:25 AM (oKE6c)

609 For those that missed it earlier, the American Conservative Party site got hacked by some Indonesian neckbeards. I guess they didn't like our criticisms of their boy Obumbles.


Link to our party page in nick.

Posted by: Country singer at March 10, 2015 12:13 AM (nL0sw)


The image is of Yuno Gasai, a teenage psycho-stalker girl from the anime/manga Mirai Nikki (未来日記.

It's about how Deus, with his little demon buddy Murmur wants to find a godly replacement for Deus.

So, they find twelve obsessive diary writers and gives them the power to see diary entries of future events. The one surviving becomes the new Deus.

It's worth a watch or read.

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at March 10, 2015 12:25 AM (0Ew3K)

610 MWNP, I'm just glad it's in the process of being addressed so quickly.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 10, 2015 12:25 AM (nL0sw)

611 In many respects, it's reminiscent of Das Kapital;
clearly the product of a superior but seriously misguided intellect, and
intrinsically hopelessly flawed.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:22 AM (oKE6c)


Well, in my defense, it's been a while since high school. I never read the damn book through; it was that tedious.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 12:25 AM (Gm0Ay)

612 Really my stance on whether-or-not to read Kampf boils down to this:

There's only so much time one gets on this planet, and I've spent too much of mine on one rotten book in particular - in my case, the Koran. I'm not sure I'd be improving the rest of my time here by studying Uncle Addie's deep-thoughts as well.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:26 AM (AVEe1)

613 He even had some thoughts on why syphilis was a bad thing and probably brought to Germany by the Jooos!

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 12:22 AM (AxABj)



I don't remember that, but would appreciate a reference. The salient question that I took away from reading it was whether Hitler's anti-Semitism arose from his hatred of Bolshevism, or vice versa.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:28 AM (oKE6c)

614 Haha, oh I get it. My grandpa wore the same outfit every day that I was alive. Brown dockers and a pink shirt. There were a few shades of pink in there, but that was as varied as it got.
Posted by: Lauren


Is this some new england thing? Nantucket?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:28 AM (XvsbD)

615 Hitler's geopolitics, in a way, were basically sound at the time, not that I'm endorsing his views. The East, against Communism, was sound. Stalin and the Communists were the enemies of humanity, not that he was any better. Most folks don't understand how close he came to winning. If he would have left the war to his generals, and shit canned Goering, he might have pulled it off. He was good tactically, but horrible strategically.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 12:28 AM (AxABj)

616 There's only so much time one gets on this planet,
and I've spent too much of mine on one rotten book in particular - in my
case, the Koran. I'm not sure I'd be improving the rest of my time here
by studying Uncle Addie's deep-thoughts as well.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:26 AM (AVEe1)


Yeah. Why read Mein Kampf when you could be parting your hair with a Skilsaw? Or watching cement cure?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 12:29 AM (Gm0Ay)

617 I'm out for the night. Y'all take care.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 10, 2015 12:30 AM (nL0sw)

618 There's only so much time one gets on this planet, and I've spent too much of mine on one rotten book in particular - in my case, the Koran. I'm not sure I'd be improving the rest of my time here by studying Uncle Addie's deep-thoughts as well.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:26 AM (AVEe1)



I tried reading the Koran, but it reads like a transcript of the ravings of a schizophrenic, a genre with which I'm only too familiar from my time in Berkeley (which, thanks to the Supremes O'Connor v. Donaldson decision, featured a raving schizophrenic on every street corner). So I gave it up.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:30 AM (oKE6c)

619 The salient question that I took away from reading it was whether Hitler's anti-Semitism arose from his hatred of Bolshevism, or vice versa.

He wrote it in 1923-5, right? That was a decade before he took over. Roughly.

He might not have known either by that point.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:30 AM (AVEe1)

620 Thanks for all the fun here. I'm off to bed w/ the wife and the new puppy.

Be well all.

T

Posted by: Farmer at March 10, 2015 12:32 AM (o/90i)

621 Well, in my defense, it's been a while since high school. I never read the damn book through; it was that tedious.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 12:25 AM (Gm0Ay)


The book is far above the level of a high school student, again, just like Das Kapital. Both are much too abstract for an adolescent; it'd be like a high school student reading Thomas Pynchon.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:32 AM (oKE6c)

622 [iHitler's geopolitics, in a way, were basically sound at the time, not that I'm endorsing his views. The East, against Communism, was sound. Stalin and the Communists were the enemies of humanity, not that he was any better. Most folks don't understand how close he came to winning. If he would have left the war to his generals, and shit canned Goering, he might have pulled it off. He was good tactically, but horrible strategically.
Posted by: Old Blue

Ok, Random Guy.

No. Hitler was not 'The East, against Communism'

Mussolini, and Hitler and your 2ndary voodoo doll, Franco, were socialists.

Sorry, again, nice try, but Fascism is a foul beast borne of the Left's malicious dreams.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:33 AM (XvsbD)

623 "Is this some new england thing?"

Ha, no grandpa was a Missouri boy. I'm not sure where that particular style quirk came from. Apparently it was what he adopted after he retired. It was the 70s. That's the only explanation I can offer. To really complete the look, he wore a truckers hat. He especially liked the one I made at the mall that had my picture on it.

Posted by: Lauren at March 10, 2015 12:35 AM (MYCIw)

624 Franco couldn't have been further west if he was fucking a Silver Feather follower in Los Angeles.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:36 AM (XvsbD)

625 I tried reading the Koran, but it reads like a transcript of the ravings of a schizophrenic

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:30 AM (oKE6c)



Yeah that was my take as well. I gave up.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 10, 2015 12:36 AM (FMbng)

626 "If he would have left the war to his generals,"

Do some research. He did leave it to his Generals quite a bit. His Generals were not always right either. If the Generals would have had their way they would have suffered the same fate as the French in the winter of 41/42.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 10, 2015 12:36 AM (6yehy)

627 S'all good. I was just harrassing the new nic.



Lurker, or?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:24 AM (XvsbD)

Long time lurker finally taking the plunge toward actual (digital) interaction.Ace of Spades, Instapundit and Breitbart are all in my daily search for sanity during this time when politics is liable to send you round a bend.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 10, 2015 12:37 AM (afouc)

628 Here Megan. Have some roasted peanuts.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 10, 2015 12:39 AM (ZbCKc)

629 From the sidebar, apparently Lincoln had sanpaku eyes.

Figures

Posted by: Puzzled Dolphin at March 10, 2015 12:39 AM (Z/irl)

630 He might not have known either by that point.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:30 AM (AVEe1)



That was kind of the sense I got. He hated the Jews because of their involvement with Bolshevism, and he hated the Bolsheviks because they were heavily Jewish. Which took precedence, and drove the other, just wasn't clear, certainly to me, as a reader, and perhaps not to the author either. I still haven't figured out which was the chicken, and which the egg, if indeed any resolution of the question is possible.


The curious thing is the Hitler (at least at that time, pre-cult of the personality), despite being virulently anti-Bolshevik, was also clearly a socialist, because he rants against "stock jobbers," "capitalists," and "international financiers," the latter leading into another rant against Jews.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:39 AM (oKE6c)

631 Per Raico, fascism was seen as the alternative path between the destructive revolutionary communism that was running amok in Europe at the time, and a way to stave off that heartless dog-eat-dog capitalism that had done so much to destroy the souls of men. (By ensuring enough mostly to eat and work that did not wear peasants out by 40)

Any logician can tell you:
1) if you start with flawed data the results will be really flawed
2) Fascism would and did devolve into socialism, and from there to dictatorship, since any organization not devoted to freedom will become, step by step, socialist and dictatorial.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 10, 2015 12:40 AM (t//F+)

Posted by: Puzzled Dolphin at March 10, 2015 12:40 AM (Z/irl)

633 Sorry, again, nice try, but Fascism is a foul beast borne of the Left's malicious dreams.

Of the Leftists' dreams; and of the Rightists' fears (of Leftists).

The Left wanted paradise on earth. The old European Right - which is not the American Right - wanted ANYTHING that would thwart the Left's vision of paradise.

So, fascism it was.

... I'm not normally anti-white / anti-European, since ancestry, but, yeesh. We can come up with some STUPID ideas sometimes.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:41 AM (AVEe1)

634 Wow, that's what David Brock looks like? Knock me over with a feather, but I'd never have guessed he was gay (/sarc).

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 12:41 AM (5pg79)

635 Most books are organized in a way that gives them a narrative coherence. The Koran is organized by the length of its suras, shortest to longest. It's a total clusterfuck, narratively speaking.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 10, 2015 12:42 AM (ZbCKc)

636 Long time lurker finally taking the plunge toward actual (digital) interaction.
Posted by: redbanzai


Cool, cool. Welcome.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:42 AM (XvsbD)

637 http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm

Nazism did not need to evolve into socialism. It is socialism.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 10, 2015 12:43 AM (6yehy)

638 Benito Mussolini created fascism as he was leaving the Socialist Party. And in his farewell speech, he declared that he always had been, was currently, and always would be, a socialist.

Fascism is just another form of socialism.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 12:45 AM (5pg79)

639 This extensive philippic against syphilis is among the most
interesting passages in Mein Kampf. Much medical or pseudo-
medical speculation has been built up round about it, with
which we do not associate ourselves. The essential point is
that syphilis and Rassenschande (i.e., cohabitation between a
German and a person of impure blood) are placed on the same
level. The first can be cured, however. The second is irre-
parable.

Jay, this if from archive.org.
He was paranoid about it.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 12:45 AM (AxABj)

640 The old European Right - which is not the American Right - wanted ANYTHING that would thwart the Left's vision of paradise.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo


Which is why the European Right (original) can't be compared to the US Right. The Continental Right were Monarchists; a label only applicable to RHINOS in the US.

Lookin' at you Poppin'Fresh, Hewitt, etc.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:46 AM (XvsbD)

641 618
There's only so much time one gets on this planet, and I've spent too
much of mine on one rotten book in particular - in my case, the Koran.
I'm not sure I'd be improving the rest of my time here by studying Uncle
Addie's deep-thoughts as well.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:26 AM (AVEe1)


I
tried reading the Koran, but it reads like a transcript of the ravings
of a schizophrenic, a genre with which I'm only too familiar from my
time in Berkeley (which, thanks to the Supremes O'Connor v. Donaldson
decision, featured a raving schizophrenic on every street corner). So I
gave it up.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:30 AM (oKE6c)


I always suspected it might have better "flow" if it hadn't been intentionally scrambled.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 12:46 AM (T1005)

642 Hey everybody, gotta call it a night. Thanks for another great night of chat. And, had NO IDEA Mein Kampf would be such a hit as a topic. :-)

See y'all tomorrow night.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 10, 2015 12:47 AM (elbY7)

643 620
Thanks for all the fun here. I'm off to bed w/ the wife and the new puppy.



Be well all.



T

Posted by: Farmer at March 10, 2015 12:32 AM (o/90i)


Kinky!

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at March 10, 2015 12:47 AM (T1005)

644 So, Old Blue, Jebadiah Bush your favorite patrician candidate?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:48 AM (XvsbD)

645 The Koran is organized by the length of its suras, shortest to longest. It's a total clusterfuck, narratively speaking.

If it were organised by the sequence in which the suras were composed, it would look like a series of sermons delivered over a century or two of Arab imperial dominance (and resistance).

Or, at least, so a kafir would assume.

Assume that a koran (not yet THE Koran) were out and about in 630 AD. Understand that there are a LOT of various religious factions running around, with ambitions to the whole Caliphate. Realise that there's not a whole lot of formal literacy in this time and place. Might not at least ONE faction figure that their cause MIGHT be improved by the "discovery" of a sura...?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:49 AM (AVEe1)

646 2) Fascism would and did devolve into socialism, and from there to dictatorship, since any organization not devoted to freedom will become, step by step, socialist and dictatorial.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 10, 2015 12:40 AM (t//F+)




Fascism arose from socialism; Mussolini had been a socialist of considerable standing, and was highly regarded by Lenin as a theorist. He was transformed by his experiences in WWI, where he saw that Italian peasants identified more with their Italian middle- and upper class officers than they did with with Austrian peasants. From that he deduced that international socialism (which held class solidarity as its central tenet) was hopelessly flawed, and that the way forward was socialism within one country (organized vertically, across the classes within one nation, rather than horizontally, between the same class in different nation) - hence "national socialism."

Several books on this:

"The Fascist Movement in Italian Life," by Gorgolini,


"Mussolini as Revealed in His Political Speeches," by Mussolini,


"Mussolini's Italy," by Finer, and


"Talks with Mussolini," by Ludwig,


all available on Project Gutenberg and/or Archive.org.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:49 AM (oKE6c)

647 Fascism is just another form of socialism.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 12:45 AM (5pg79)


Yeah, but it was supposed to be socialism-lite, you know, peoples control over the tools of production, but less bloody destructive riots: that sort of thing.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 10, 2015 12:50 AM (t//F+)

648 No. Hitler was not 'The East, against Communism'

Mussolini, and Hitler and your 2ndary voodoo doll, Franco, were socialists.

Sorry, again, nice try, but Fascism is a foul beast borne of the Left's malicious dreams.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:33 AM (XvsbD)


There were differences.

Classical Fascism wasn't about race. In fact, there were many Jewish fascists in Itally up until the late '30's. Heck, Franco saved many Jews.

Classical Fascim was about how the "nation", as a collective entity, was to rule, and that experts and best men were to devine the intention of the collective. They denounced democracy because it didn't include the voices of the minority of voices in the country.

They believed in corporatism.

Corporatism is when labor, business, farmer, &c. is brought into the fold of the state for the aims and benefit of the state, and where said labor, business, farmer, &c. is benefited in turn by the state for their service.

Corporatism is a way of organizing the economic life of a country under the direction of the state. It is the state that creates a corporatist economy, not the free market.


Franco, Moussolini, the Lebanese Phelangists, and to a degree the Ba'ath party followed these lines.

The early NAZIs stressed more direct nationalization of industries, rather than co-option and direct control with ownership dependent on doing the will of the nation.

The Strasser Bros. reflected the "beafsteak" approach while Hitler was the "moderate," who eventually won out, in this regard. Unlike classical fascism, the NAZIs made Jews the official scapegoat.

Ironically enough, classical fascism was actually one of the most actual egalitarian veins of Leftism.

Read Mussolini's "What is Fascism" or the NAZI's 25-point program.

Both Marxism and Fascism were based on Hegelian thinking.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 12:50 AM (0Ew3K)

649 I always suspected it might have better "flow" if it hadn't been intentionally scrambled.


Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 12:46 AM (T1005)


Organizing the suras in order of increasing length, as Cicero mentioned, might make some sense if the purpose of the book was to stuff mo's ravings most efficiently into the minds of rote memorizers.

"You don't need to understand it, little Achmed, you just need to recite it."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 12:51 AM (Gm0Ay)

650 #646: You said it much better than I did at #638. Well done!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 12:51 AM (5pg79)

651 Jay, this if from archive.org. He was paranoid about it.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 12:45 AM (AxABj)



Fair enough. I didn't remember that.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:51 AM (oKE6c)

652 There were differences.

Classical Fascism wasn't about race. In fact, there were many Jewish fascists in Itally up until the late '30's. Heck, Franco saved many Jews.

Both Marxism and Fascism were based on Hegelian thinking.
Posted by: The Political Hat


What possible succor to the proponents of a 1000 year Reich do you find interesting enough to fisk my ad-hoc comment?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:53 AM (XvsbD)

653 I bow to Political Hat and Jay Guevara.

Remind me not to argue politics with those two.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:53 AM (AVEe1)

654 Classical Fascism wasn't about race.


Yep. Mussolini didn't even bring up the subject, so far as I can tell from my readings. His view of Fascism was essentially of a nation as a "big family," as in the metaphor so beloved of shithead corporate managers.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:54 AM (oKE6c)

655 #647: True. If you stepped out of line in Mussolini's fascist Italy, you'd get your ass kicked, but you'd be allowed to live so you could change your mind and get on board the always-on-time train.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 12:55 AM (5pg79)

656 If it were organised by the sequence in which the suras were composed, it would look like a series of sermons delivered over a century or two of Arab imperial dominance (and resistance).

-------------

It would also show a revealing transition in the pedo prophet's opinion of the Jews. Early on, he needed their support and was very tolerant of their apostasy. Later, when he gained the upper hand in Mecca, he wanted to kill them all.

Nice.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 10, 2015 12:55 AM (ZbCKc)

657 I think I am arguing the same side, but insisting on a slightly different interpretation.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 10, 2015 12:55 AM (t//F+)

658 * crap. gotta figure out what 'fisk' means*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, Former FireFox user at March 10, 2015 12:56 AM (F2IAQ)

659 Mussolini didn't even bring up the subject [of race], so far as I can tell from my readings.

In Italy, he really couldn't. Sicilians? Sardinians? ... Libyans? These have very little in common with some businessman in Genoa, or a farmer in Tyrol.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:56 AM (AVEe1)

660 A big fan of Mussolini and Fascism? FDR.


But that's not an indictment of FDR. There were LOTS of fans of Fascism in the 1922-mid 1930s era. "We're all just a big family." Just as now we hear "Government is what we do together."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 12:57 AM (oKE6c)

661 377
OK, this may piss some of you off, but I think this letter to Iran was a bad idea.



I admire Senator Cotton, and UCMJ prohibits me from giving my candid
opinion of this President. But this has managed to make him look even
weaker and sillier than he did in his negotiations.



Did he have it coming? Yes, by making it clear he would negotiate a
treaty in all but name, so he wouldn't have to get approval from that
pesky Senate. Still, this would have been better communicated to the
president, in secret, not to the fucking mullahs in public.

Posted by: JPS at March 09, 2015 10:56 PM (9ziuC)

First, I am fairly sure the Senator's thoughts on the matter were communicated to President I Won McTantrumpants before they wrote this letter.
Second, is there any conceivable way that anyone could possibly make him appear weaker than he makes himself look with his Muslim apologetics and Jew-hatred?

Posted by: redbanzai at March 10, 2015 12:58 AM (afouc)

662 What possible succor to the proponents of a 1000 year Reich do you find interesting enough to fisk my ad-hoc comment?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 12:53 AM (XvsbD)


Huh?

I just wanted to point out that National Socialism and Fascism aren't pure synonyms. IIRC, for years Mussolini didn't consider National Socialism to be fascism. Heck, there were different at first and seemed to merge as Italy and Germany grew closer.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 12:58 AM (0Ew3K)

663 #658: The term comes from a dumbass journalist named Robert Fisk. His articles always fell apart under the lightest of scrutiny, and were easy to make fun of. So, his name became an internet verb to describe the process of unraveling the shaky logic of a crappy article.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 12:59 AM (5pg79)

664 Doesn't it get rather silly when we reach the point when we treat a
frikkin book like it contains black magic and was printed in Hell?


Probably shouldn't mess around with that.

Posted by: Ash J. Williams at March 10, 2015 01:00 AM (A6vWB)

665 Luap Nor, maybe you should read a little more history. Heinz Guederian was furious the summer of Barbarossa because Hitler demanded that the Panzers of Army Group Central go south to Kiev to assist Army Group South. Had Guderian been allowed to proceed to Moscow before Zhukov brought his forces east, he could have taken Moscow. At the time every rail line in the country ran through Moscow. As it was he came close. Guderian was transferred by Hitler because he disagreed with Hitler's tactics. Guderian, along with Rommel, were Hitler's best armored generals, but Hitler thought he knew better. And the only reason for Zhukov to come east was that Stalin's spy in Tokyo, Richard Sorge, told him that the Japanese were going into the Pacific, rather than Russia. During the Battle of Britain, once Churchill bombed Berlin, Hitler ordered Goering to bomb London instead of the RAF airfields. The RAF were absolutely on their last legs, and had they bombed the RAF instead of London, they may well have won the Battle of Britain, and would not have had to fight a two front war.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 01:00 AM (AxABj)

666 IIRC, for years Mussolini didn't consider National Socialism to be fascism.
Posted by: The Political Hat


...henh?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 01:00 AM (XvsbD)

667 Both Marxism and Fascism were based on Hegelian thinking.

Posted by: The Political Hat



Yep. And the ultimate progenitor of the Leftist rubbish: Rousseau, who has SO much to answer for, not least that "noble savage" in the state of nature, corrupted by society crap, so if we only change/destroy society ....


Rousseau thereby provided a major impetus both for Hegel and Marx (and thereby Marxism and Fascism), and for Bakunin (and thereby anarchism).


Thanks a bunch, Jean-Jacques!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:02 AM (oKE6c)

668 665 Old Blue

So, he was a better General than his Generals?

Hunh.

Posted by: speedster1 on the (new) ipad at March 10, 2015 01:02 AM (1brdf)

669 I just wanted to point out that National Socialism and Fascism aren't pure synonyms. IIRC, for years Mussolini didn't consider National Socialism to be fascism. Heck, there were different at first and seemed to merge as Italy and Germany grew closer.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 12:58 AM (0Ew3K)




That's true of National Socialism in the sense used in Germany, but he considered Fascism to be national socialism, i.e., socialism within one country. (The use of capitalization is done advisedly.)

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:04 AM (oKE6c)

670 Classical Fascism wasn't about race.

Yep. Mussolini didn't even bring up the subject, so far as I can tell from my readings. His view of Fascism was essentially of a nation as a "big family," as in the metaphor so beloved of shithead corporate managers.
Posted by: Jay Guevara


Here's where I provide some pointless counter-argument: Mussolini didn't hate jews; he hated slavs. Not the biggest thing in his government, but he still hated him some easterners.

The thing here is that Slavs are only a 'race' in some weird ipso-facto 18th century frenological description.

Down with the Slavs, up with the ... Corsicans?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 01:04 AM (XvsbD)

671 IIRC, for years Mussolini didn't consider National Socialism to be fascism.
Posted by: The Political Hat

...henh?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 01:00 AM (XvsbD)


Mussolini was into corporatism. The Early NAZI's were far more into direct nationalizations of large businesses. In contrast Mussolini was happy to let people "own" their businesses just as long as they swayed by the hand of the state.

Hitler was closer to Mussolini than the Strasser Bros. and he understood that to gain power, he couldn't scare off the businesses.

Also, the NAZIs were anti-army. Again, Hitler curbed the SA (which were originally supposed to be revolutionary party that would seize power, like with the Beer Hall Putsch), to placate the army so he could gain power.

Hitler didn't like big businesses on principle, or the army, but he wanted to coopt them or supplant them slowly.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 01:06 AM (0Ew3K)

672 In Italy, he really couldn't. Sicilians? Sardinians?
... Libyans? These have very little in common with some businessman in
Genoa, or a farmer in Tyrol.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 10, 2015 12:56 AM (AVEe1)

Maybe I missed something, but in my readings on Mussolini I didn't get any sense that he burned to address race, but was restrained by circumstances. If I had to bet, I'd bet the issue hadn't occurred to him; it seems largely orthogonal to his thinking, as judged from his speeches and published work.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:06 AM (oKE6c)

673 Wow.


Early ONT. Late me.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 10, 2015 01:08 AM (W53WK)

674 And weft, normally I appreciate your comments, but it seems like tonight you're being....and I'm trying to be polite....rather contrary. What I'd like to know is who pissed in your Post Toasties? And yes, I did not hit the F*cking enter key on my last post.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 01:08 AM (AxABj)

675 Here's where I provide some pointless counter-argument: Mussolini didn't hate jews; he hated slavs. Not the biggest thing in his government, but he still hated him some easterners.

The thing here is that Slavs are only a 'race' in some weird ipso-facto 18th century frenological description.

Down with the Slavs, up with the ... Corsicans?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 01:04 AM (XvsbD)



Didn't see that in my readings, but maybe I missed it. It would be fair to say Mussolini was no fan of Austrians (some of whom at the time of the Austro-Hungarian Empire would also be Slavs), but that would only make him a garden variety Italian.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:09 AM (oKE6c)

676 Early ONT. Late me.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
---------------

Did you bring your armor-plated underwear?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, Former FireFox user at March 10, 2015 01:09 AM (F2IAQ)

677 Speedster, in the later years of the war, after 1941, yes. Hitler thought he knew better than the general staff. His obstinacy killed a crap load of ordinary German soldiers.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 01:11 AM (AxABj)

678 Had the Generals listen to the Logistics people to begin with there might never had been a Barbarossa. The guys responsible for getting the supplies to troops pretty much said, "it is not happening"

The "Generals" did not listen.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 10, 2015 01:12 AM (6yehy)

679 Interesting factoid: the term "totalitarian" was coined by Mussolini, who meant as laudatory: Fascism would take care of every Italian "from cradle to grave" (the origin of the expression). Only later did "totalitarian" take on its present dark meaning.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:13 AM (oKE6c)

680 Maybe I missed something, but in my readings on
Mussolini I didn't get any sense that he burned to address race, but was
restrained by circumstances. If I had to bet, I'd bet the issue hadn't
occurred to him; it seems largely orthogonal to his thinking, as judged
from his speeches and published work.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:06 AM (oKE6c)


And it is my recollection that Mussolini did not have a program to round up and eliminate Jews, and in fact Italian Jews were safe until Mussolini was deposed and the Germans took over Italy. Mussolini's big mistake was throwing in his lot with Hitler and his gang. Had he stayed neutral, which should have been easier for him than for Franco, seeing as he didn't owe his success to Hitler, he likely could have remained Il Duce until his natural death.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 01:15 AM (Gm0Ay)

681 And weft, normally I appreciate your comments Posted by: Old Blue

*sniff*

You don't normally I appreciate our comments


but it seems like tonight you're being....and I'm trying to be polite....rather contrary. What I'd like to know is who pissed in your Post Toasties? And yes, I did not hit the F*cking enter key on my last post.

Hi. MMA!, Please invite me to your 4th of The Internationale parte!

Would so be cool.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 01:16 AM (XvsbD)

682 681
And weft, normally I appreciate your comments Posted by: Old Blue



*sniff*



You don't normally I appreciate our comments





but it seems like tonight you're being....and I'm trying to be
polite....rather contrary. What I'd like to know is who pissed in your
Post Toasties? And yes, I did not hit the F*cking enter key on my last
post.



Hi. MMA!, Please invite me to your 4th of The Internationale parte!



Would so be cool.



Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 01:16 AM (XvsbD)


Isn't that something like, "I got a reacharound so this must be True Love"?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 01:19 AM (T1005)

683 And it is my recollection that Mussolini did not have a program to round up and eliminate Jews, and in fact Italian Jews were safe until Mussolini was deposed and the Germans took over Italy. Mussolini's big mistake was throwing in his lot with Hitler and his gang. Had he stayed neutral, which should have been easier for him than for Franco, seeing as he didn't owe his success to Hitler, he likely could have remained Il Duce until his natural death.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 01:15 AM (Gm0Ay)



I believe that that's correct. Mussolini largely resisted Hitler's efforts to round up Jews until Hitler knelt on him to do so.


Recall that Mussolini assumed power in 1922, at about which time Hitler was cooling his heels in Landesberg Prison. So for a long time Mussolini was the senior party, both by time in office and by virtue of having been the progenitor of national socialism.


The interesting figure here is Franco. While vilified by the Left, he actually pulled some rather deft statesmanship. He managed to wangle support from first Mussolini, then Hitler, and in return gave them ... bupkis, and then kept Spain out of WWII. That's some pretty fancy footwork for a guy leading a weak country.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:21 AM (oKE6c)

684 The "Generals" did not listen.


Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 10, 2015 01:12 AM (6yehy)
---------One of the most fascinating things about WWII, is that even at the end of the war, Germans still relied on horse drawn mobility. Studebaker trucks, through Lend/Lease, moved the Soviets, and the Allied armies had more trucks than you could shake a stick at. I never really understood why the Germans, with all their technology, didn't build more trucks. They had rockets (V2), guided munitions, personal automatic weapons, and the V1. But they didn't build a crap load of trucks. And the rail systems were too busy transporting Jews to the death camps. They had the world by the balls, and they let go.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 01:21 AM (AxABj)

685 Twue Wove...

Posted by: chemjeff at March 10, 2015 01:21 AM (9GG/0)

686 Remember the Smurfs? I have friends who've argued that they're communists, but I think they're actually fascists. They've used the metaphor of a bundle of sticks to argue their viewpoints (the very definition of fascism, after all), and the one smurf who comes up with arguments against their way of life, Brainy, just gets his ass kicked every time instead of getting disappeared for it.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 01:21 AM (5pg79)

687 And it is my recollection that Mussolini did not have a program to round up and eliminate Jews, and in fact Italian Jews were safe until Mussolini was deposed and the Germans took over Italy. Mussolini's big mistake was throwing in his lot with Hitler and his gang. Had he stayed neutral, which should have been easier for him than for Franco, seeing as he didn't owe his success to Hitler, he likely could have remained Il Duce until his natural death.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 01:15 AM (Gm0Ay)


A history where fascism survived would be an interesting one... it'd probably look today as almost indistinguishable from America today...

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 01:21 AM (0Ew3K)

688 #683: Also, Mussolini actually loved America (and the feeling was mutual; Mussolini appeared in a few Hollywood movies as himself). It broke his heart that circumstances forced him to align against us in WWII.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 01:24 AM (5pg79)

689 The interesting figure here is Franco. While
vilified by the Left, he actually pulled some rather deft statesmanship.
He managed to wangle support from first Mussolini, then Hitler, and in
return gave them ... bupkis, and then kept Spain out of WWII. That's
some pretty fancy footwork for a guy leading a weak country.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:21 AM (oKE6c)


Yeah, that's what I was alluding to, when I said that, unlike Franco, Mussolini did not owe his success to Hitler. Had he wanted Italy to remain neutral, he surely could have done it. But he had visions of empire, and saw an alliance with Germany as a way to achieve that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 01:24 AM (Gm0Ay)

690 I always thought that Mussolini must have seen himself as some sort of neo Roman Emperor out to conquer the world just like Caesar

Posted by: chemjeff at March 10, 2015 01:26 AM (9GG/0)

691 A history where fascism survived would be an interesting one... it'd probably look today as almost indistinguishable from America today...

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 01:21 AM (0Ew3K)



Yep. It actually sounds rather appealing; let's all put aside our differences and work together for the common good, that sort of thing. No wonder FDR bought it hook, line, and sinker: it was pretty much in his wheelhouse.


The problem arises when things don't go well, and/or someone doesn't go along with the program. Then the tendency is to assume that things didn't go well because someone didn't go along with the program, and that if we just ... deal ... with that person, everything will be wonderful. Heaven on earth! Now we just need to sort out the naysayers ...


Next stop, the camps. Where I have already called top bunk. Just want to remind everyone of that.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:27 AM (oKE6c)

692 #690: If that thought ever crossed his mind, it must've quickly crumbled when he found himself stuck between the Nazis and the Allies, and forced to pick a side.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 01:29 AM (5pg79)

693 So, Franco, as far as Fascist Euro dictators go........not so bad?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 10, 2015 01:30 AM (W53WK)

694 ---------One of the most fascinating things about
WWII, is that even at the end of the war, Germans still relied on horse
drawn mobility. Studebaker trucks, through Lend/Lease, moved the
Soviets, and the Allied armies had more trucks than you could shake a
stick at. I never really understood why the Germans, with all their
technology, didn't build more trucks. They had rockets (V2), guided
munitions, personal automatic weapons, and the V1. But they didn't build
a crap load of trucks. And the rail systems were too busy transporting
Jews to the death camps. They had the world by the balls, and they let
go.


Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 01:21 AM (AxABj)


I think the explanation is simple. Germans, then and now, were/are Europeans. And railroads were entrenched there as a means of mass transportation. And automobiles, and by extension, trucks, were viewed with suspicion as being too egalitarian. And Mussolini was famous for vowing to make the trains run on time. How many of us here would give a particular shit if the trains did, or did not, run on time? We have cars, don't we?

And those Studebaker trucks were damn fine trucks for their day. They still have fans in Russia to this day. There are Russian Web sites dedicated to them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 01:30 AM (Gm0Ay)

695 Weft, I'm not going to play your silly little game. If you want to act like an idiot, more power to you. I have absolutely no idea why I'm you're targeting me tonight, but I really don't care. I guess that dickheads gotta be dickheads. And tonight, you're a dickhead.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 01:31 AM (AxABj)

696 A history where fascism survived would be an interesting one... it'd probably look today as almost indistinguishable from America today...
Posted by: The Political Hat


Thanks for feeding DailyKos' feed for the next 2 years.

I'm sure you meant differently , but that short, blip, looks like an agreement with fascism.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 01:31 AM (XvsbD)

697 690 I always thought that Mussolini must have seen himself as some sort of neo Roman Emperor out to conquer the world just like Caesar

Posted by: chemjeff at March 10, 2015 01:26 AM (9GG/0)




I'm not sure to what extent that was just bullshit to rouse Italian patriotism. Yeah, he invoked the Roman Empire all the time, and cast himself as a latter-day Cincinnatus, and while I'm sure he enjoyed the play-acting, I'm not clear on how much he believed it himself. Mussolini was no fool; he was highly intelligent.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:31 AM (oKE6c)

698 there are russian web sites dedicated to all sorts of crazy shit, including studebakers

Posted by: chemjeff at March 10, 2015 01:32 AM (9GG/0)

699 Thanks for feeding DailyKos' feed for the next 2 years.



I'm sure you meant differently , but that short, blip, looks like an agreement with fascism.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 01:31 AM (XvsbD)


Yet if you submitted the Fascists' platform to them without attribution I have no doubt you'd get their enthusiastic support.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:33 AM (oKE6c)

700 Also, Mussolini actually loved America (and the feeling was mutual; Mussolini appeared in a few Hollywood movies as himself). It broke his heart that circumstances forced him to align against us in WWII.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 01:24 AM (5pg79)


Watch "Gabriel over the White House"

Total fantasy of a President going full totalitarian dictator.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 01:33 AM (0Ew3K)

701 #693: There were definitely worse guys running rampant in Europe, yes.

Franco did, however, crush the Spanish Republicans, who held views similar to American Republicans. So, yeah, he did sort of suck.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 01:33 AM (5pg79)

702 Twue Wove...
Posted by: chemjeff


Oh, Ch4Jd4ff, you so know how to seduce.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 01:34 AM (XvsbD)

703 Watch "Gabriel over the White House"

Total fantasy of a President going full totalitarian dictator.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 01:33 AM (0Ew3K)



Scary, isn't it? I bet it would be a major hit with the Daily Kos. Think of Thomas Friedman, of the NYT, yearning for the US government to exercise the power of the Chinese government "to get things done."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:35 AM (oKE6c)

704 #700: You say that as if it's a bad thing.

Posted by: President Obnoxious at March 10, 2015 01:35 AM (5pg79)

705 Another common myth about WW II is Göring's stating that Stalingrad could be supplied by air lift.

Just did not happen. The man responsible for that fiasco was Hans Jeshonnok. Luftwaffe CoS IIRC.

Göring was not even in Berlin when that subject came up.

Jeshonnok said it could be done and schiklegruber ran with it.
Hansie later committed suicide.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 10, 2015 01:35 AM (6yehy)

706 Franco did, however, crush the Spanish Republicans, who held views similar to American Republicans. So, yeah, he did sort of suck.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 01:33 AM (5pg79)



Huh? The Spanish Republicans were Communists. You know that, right?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:36 AM (oKE6c)

707 [iYet if you submitted the Fascists' platform to them without attribution I have no doubt you'd get their enthusiastic support.
Posted by: Jay Guevara

Provided some thin credentials, of course!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 01:36 AM (XvsbD)

708 Franco did, however, crush the Spanish Republicans,
who held views similar to American Republicans. So, yeah, he did sort of
suck.


Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 01:33 AM (5pg79)


So that's why Communists from all over North America, and other countries flocked to support the Republican side in the Spanish civil
war?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 01:36 AM (Gm0Ay)

709
Oh, Ch4Jd4ff, you so know how to seduce.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 01:34 AM (XvsbD)

umm... okay?

Posted by: chemjeff at March 10, 2015 01:36 AM (9GG/0)

710 OK, I'm out, all. See you tomorrow.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:37 AM (oKE6c)

711 "I think the explanation is simple."



Same or not, the Germans also seemed to maximize engine production for tanks, planes, ships, subs, etc. For whatever reason, the truck was not viewed as a "strategic asset" by them. Could be the same.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 10, 2015 01:37 AM (W53WK)

712 yeah, the Spanish Republicans were outright Communists, not free-market conservatives.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 10, 2015 01:38 AM (9GG/0)

713 Alberta, I have to agree. The Schliffen plan for WWI was based on Germany building railroads to Belgium to move troops and material to the front. They couldn't get enough troops and material to the front fast enough.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 01:38 AM (AxABj)

714 Well, that's two people telling me I'm wrong in my assessment of Franco's Fascism vs. Spanish Republicans. Maybe I am wrong?

I don't know. But, it is worth noting that American Republicans of that time weren't exactly what we'd describe as conservative, any more than they are now.

In other words, I don't think I actually have a dog in that particular fight.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 01:40 AM (5pg79)

715 Further proof that fascism is Leftist, just look at Mosley in the '30's.

He was, IIRC, a Labour MP and early was though of as a possible future PM.

His speeches as a British Fascist candidate for the House of Commons was all about how Labour wasn't Leftist enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_SepgAf4rE

Unlike Mussolini (early on) and Franco, he did have a thing against Jews... but then anti-Semitism was pretty popular amongst various crowds back then. Still his attempts to hide his anti-Semitism later in life were pathetic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd7LcaXZzUs

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 01:40 AM (0Ew3K)

716 Same or not, the Germans also seemed to maximize
engine production for tanks, planes, ships, subs, etc. For whatever
reason, the truck was not viewed as a "strategic asset" by them. Could
be the same.


Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 10, 2015 01:37 AM (W53WK)


Totalitarians have a fascination with railways. If you have a planned, centrally-controlled economy, railways are all you need to get the goods to the proles. Trucks are too free, too anarchic. Why do you think today's leftists are all fascinated by "light rail transit". And look who's peddling the high-speed train to nowhere in California.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 01:41 AM (Gm0Ay)

717 I am laughing over that "allergy card" of Megan's, especially the "beans" part.

She lists three foodstuffs which in English have been assigned some variant of the word "bean" -- but none of which are actual beans!

coffee beans -- not actual beans ("coffee beans" are a fruit)
soy beans -- not actual beans (they're "oil seeds")
green bean -- the immature casing of the beanpod before the bean begins to develop

So her "bean allergy" consists of three unrelated foods, none of which are beans.

And I GUARANTEE you Megan is a progressive who "believes in science" and who hates conservatives for being "anti-science."

Posted by: zombie at March 10, 2015 01:43 AM (K4YiS)

718 698
there are russian web sites dedicated to all sorts of crazy shit, including studebakers


Posted by: chemjeff at March 10, 2015 01:32 AM (9GG/0)


One of the gems of St. Petersburg is the Singer Building -- http://tinyurl.com/o4459au -- and, yes, that's the sewing-machine company.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 01:43 AM (T1005)

719 say what you will about dysfunctional 1930's Republicans, they weren't outright communist.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 10, 2015 01:43 AM (9GG/0)

720 Total fantasy of a President going full totalitarian dictator.

Let's hope it remains a fantasy.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 10, 2015 01:43 AM (UVfht)

721 The biggest problem in supplying German Troops in Russia really was not the lack of trucks. It was the lack of usable rail lines. The Russian Rail net was no where as developed as the Germans and it was also in a different gage. The Russian Net was in Broad Gage and the Germans was in Standard European Gage. Not only did those rails have to regaged but so did any captured rail stock.

That was a very time consuming process on both accounts.

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 10, 2015 01:43 AM (6yehy)

722 Franco did, however, crush the Spanish Republicans, who held views similar to American Republicans. So, yeah, he did sort of suck.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 01:33 AM (5pg79)

Huh? The Spanish Republicans were Communists. You know that, right?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:36 AM (oKE6c)


Hardcore communists. So hardcore, vicious, and evil that George Orwell went full anti-Soviet.

Heck, so bad that, IIRC, Dali remained living in Franco's Spain because commies raped his sister.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 01:43 AM (0Ew3K)

723 "#693:"


Hindsight being all that it is, I've often thought I a Euro in '39-'40 I'm hauling it for Sweden, Switzerland, Spain, or, Portugal. Get to a neutral country and then a way west.....N.A., S.A., etc.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 10, 2015 01:44 AM (W53WK)

724 the immature casing of the beanpod before the bean begins to develop

That's hawt.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at March 10, 2015 01:45 AM (2oDEG)

725 say what you will about dysfunctional 1930's Republicans, they weren't outright communist.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 10, 2015 01:43 AM (9GG/0)


Word.

Posted by: Gov. Alf Landon at March 10, 2015 01:45 AM (0Ew3K)

726 In other words, I don't think I actually have a dog in that particular fight.
-----
The Republicans at that time were actually the "Workers of the World Unite" kind of guys. They were compromised of Communists, anarchists, and other socialists. They even had an Abraham Lincoln brigade of Americans fighting for the Socialist cause. Toward the end, the Socialists were fighting the Anarchists as well as Franco's Fascists. They couldn't keep their shit together and they lost.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 01:45 AM (AxABj)

727 #719: Perhaps not more so than they are now, at any rate. I wouldn't describe Republicans then or now as particularly anti-communist, though.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 01:45 AM (5pg79)

728 Alberta, I have to agree. The Schliffen plan for WWI
was based on Germany building railroads to Belgium to move troops and
material to the front. They couldn't get enough troops and material to
the front fast enough.


Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 01:38 AM (AxABj)


At the time of WWI, everybody used railroads for hauling freight. The trucks of the day filled the gap between the railyard and the end user, as horse-drawn wagons had done before. They were not meant for long-distance hauling on highways, which did not exist as we know them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 01:46 AM (Gm0Ay)

729 The Republicans at that time were actually the "Workers of the World Unite" kind of guys. They were compromised of Communists, anarchists, and other socialists. They even had an Abraham Lincoln brigade of Americans fighting for the Socialist cause. Toward the end, the Socialists were fighting the Anarchists as well as Franco's Fascists. They couldn't keep their shit together and they lost.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 01:45 AM (AxABj)


I remember many a year ago taking a class on Spain and Portugal by an elderly professor who wan't an SJW.

He mentioned one of the commie factions were vegetarian nudist Trotskyist from Catalonia.

It was actually a very good class, and introduced students to the classical Spanish paintings and a non-Leftist overview of Iberian history.

Posted by: The Iberian Hat at March 10, 2015 01:48 AM (0Ew3K)

730 Hardcore communists. So hardcore, vicious, and evil that George Orwell went full anti-Soviet.

Heck, so bad that, IIRC, Dali remained living in Franco's Spain because commies raped his sister.
Posted by: The Political Hat


I recenly started to watch (but eventually fell asleep) the movie "There Be Dragons," which got atrocious reviews from mainstream film critics. I soon discovered why: The film depicts the Spanish Civil War, and accurately shows how the "Republicans" tortured and killed any Catholic priests they encountered.

No no no, showing the atrocities of the Far Left is Not Allowed! Bad review for you!

(Aside from that, the movie was pretty boring and I never finished it.)

Posted by: zombie at March 10, 2015 01:50 AM (K4YiS)

731 Luap Nor's last brain cell, I can't remember the exact quote, but a good general understands tactics, but a great general understands logistics. Something like that.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 01:50 AM (AxABj)

732 ---------One of the most fascinating things about WWII, is that even at the end of the war, Germans still relied on horse drawn mobility. Studebaker trucks, through Lend/Lease, moved the Soviets, and the Allied armies had more trucks than you could shake a stick at. I never really understood why the Germans, with all their technology, didn't build more trucks. They had rockets (V2), guided munitions, personal automatic weapons, and the V1. But they didn't build a crap load of trucks. And the rail systems were too busy transporting Jews to the death camps. They had the world by the balls, and they let go.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 01:21 AM

It was a matter of priority of manufacturing/resources combined with doctrine in tactics (which was itself shaped by the former, to a large extent). The Germans could only build so much. For every factory you devote to trucks or half tracks, you're down one you could use or convert for tanks etc and as impressive as their production was, they were always short on tanks. They funnelled their truck and half track production into relatively small numbers of mech infantry for rapid movement, while basic infantrty caught up later. It worked well enough often enough to not force a rethink. They wanted more trucks to make more mobile infantry units, they pressed captured light vehicles of all kinds into the role, but it was never enough.... but to ramp up truck production meant fewer tanks/assault guns etc.

Posted by: otho at March 10, 2015 01:50 AM (tBSrv)

733 The Republicans at that time were actually the "Workers of the World Unite" kind of guys. They were compromised of Communists, anarchists, and other socialists. They even had an Abraham Lincoln brigade of Americans fighting for the Socialist cause. Toward the end, the Socialists were fighting the Anarchists as well as Franco's Fascists. They couldn't keep their shit together and they lost.
Posted by: Old Blue


Thank you for this accurate summary, so I didn't have to write it.

This ^^^

Posted by: zombie at March 10, 2015 01:51 AM (K4YiS)

734 720
Total fantasy of a President going full totalitarian dictator.

Let's hope it remains a fantasy.


Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 10, 2015 01:43 AM (UVfht)


I think that train has left the station. The open question is whether the institutions designed to thwart this behavior will operate as planned. Right now "Team Republic" is down a few points.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 01:51 AM (T1005)

735 Wow, I just saw this. It is so scary. Someone save us from Scott Walker!

"Over the past few weeks, dozens have been arrested in the Wisconsin state capitol for the simple act of singing, under new protest restrictions Walker's administration put in place. Just yesterday, Walker shocked many of his former political allies by suggesting expanding his union-busting Act 10 to include police officers and firefighters as well.

All this, and Scott Walker is not-so-secretly laying the groundwork for a presidential run."

GASP!

http://bit.ly/1nSeTTW

Posted by: mr_jack at March 10, 2015 01:52 AM (M59SC)

736 The open question is whether the institutions designed to thwart this behavior will operate as planned.

It's a tax!

Posted by: Mystical Berobed Druid John Roberts at March 10, 2015 01:53 AM (2oDEG)

737 Zombie, the Spanish civil war was horrific. The Communists murdered priests and Catholics. The fascists murdered everyone who proclaimed to be communists. The Germans and Italians murdered whoever was left standing. It was the Burning Times. And Franco won and was dictator for the next, what, forty years?

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 01:54 AM (AxABj)

738 Right to Work is a fulfillment of Worker's Rights

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 01:55 AM (XvsbD)

739 Fascinating history read. I really should have asked the oldest Italians in my family what the deal was back then, as in the day to day life. I got a decent amount of info, but not the real nuts and bolts of the day to day goings on. One reason was I didn't give a shit since I was 3rd generation American, the other was their accents were so crazy I couldn't understand them.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 10, 2015 01:55 AM (FMbng)

740 German truck production in WW II

http://www.panzerworld.com/truck-production-numbers

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 10, 2015 01:55 AM (6yehy)

741 One last comment, and then I hit the sack. If you are fighting a prolonged war in Europe, rail is everywhere, and of course it is tempting to make use of it. Which is fine as long as you control the skies. Once you lose your air cover, then the railways get bombed; both the tracks and entire trains. And repairs are not all that easy. Highways can get bombed, too, but a few peasants with shovels and tractors can fill bomb craters and make the road at least passable in a hurry. And a consignment of goods loaded on 50 individual trucks, at least some will make it through. Put that same consignment on 20 railcars, and if the train gets bombed, none of it gets through, leastwise not in time. Trucks are more flexible, especially when you are at your frontiers, as the Germans were in Russia.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 01:56 AM (Gm0Ay)

742 #735: Right now, Scott Walker is the one thing keeping me from ditching the Republican Party entirely. If Walker doesn't get the party's presidential nomination next year, then I wish Jeb Bush the best of luck winning without my time, my money, or my vote, because he's not getting any of those things.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 01:58 AM (5pg79)

743 The Republicans at that time were actually the "Workers of the World Unite" kind of guys. They were compromised of Communists, anarchists, and other socialists.

Suck my dick, anarchist.

Posted by: J. McPharland, Pinkerton at March 10, 2015 01:59 AM (XvsbD)

744 679 Interesting factoid: the term "totalitarian" was coined by Mussolini, who meant as laudatory: Fascism would take care of every Italian "from cradle to grave" (the origin of the expression). Only later did "totalitarian" take on its present dark meaning.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 10, 2015 01:13 AM (oKE6c)

A modern synonym for totalitarian would be comprehensive.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 10, 2015 01:59 AM (J+mig)

745 Obscene illiterate jackass.

Posted by: J. McPharland, Pinkerton at March 10, 2015 02:00 AM (XvsbD)

746 735
Wow, I just saw this. It is so scary. Someone save us from Scott Walker!



"Over the past few weeks, dozens have been arrested in the Wisconsin
state capitol for the simple act of singing, under new protest
restrictions Walker's administration put in place. Just yesterday,
Walker shocked many of his former political allies by suggesting
expanding his union-busting Act 10 to include police officers and
firefighters as well.



All this, and Scott Walker is not-so-secretly laying the groundwork for a presidential run."



GASP!



http://bit.ly/1nSeTTW

Posted by: mr_jack at March 10, 2015 01:52 AM (M59SC)


MAIN STREET -- A project of WORKING AMERICA -- Community Affiliate of the AFL-CIO. Yeah, there's a solid info source.... *rolls eyes* Still didn't see anything about the singing, though.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 02:00 AM (T1005)

747 #744 and #679: That is correct. That's exactly what the term Totalitarian was coined to mean.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 02:01 AM (5pg79)

748 The open question is whether the institutions designed to thwart this behavior will operate as planned.

So far that is not in evidence. Come Jan 21st, 2017, we shall see what, if any, safeguards remain.

I'll have to stop there, lest my speculating be "mistaken" for advocating.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 10, 2015 02:02 AM (UVfht)

749 Put that same consignment on 20 railcars, and if the train gets bombed, none of it gets through, leastwise not in time. Trucks are more flexible, especially when you are at your frontiers, as the Germans were in Russia.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2015 01:56 AM (Gm0Ay


Yeah, after seeing all that cool p-38 and P-51 train strafing footage you would probably want to think twice about using a mode of transportation whose tracks leave a nice pre determined route that can be seen from space.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 10, 2015 02:04 AM (FMbng)

750 I'll have to stop there, lest my speculating be "mistaken" for advocating.
Posted by: Blanco Basura


The possibilities for Science Fiction are infinite!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 02:05 AM (XvsbD)

751 Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 10, 2015 01:55 AM (6yehy)
---------
German production even very late in the war was incredible. Even with the Allies dropping thousands of tons of bombs on the Fatherland every week, production under Albert Speer rose until late in 1944. I think the problem was with what they chose to produce. Undoubtedly, the Tiger was the best battle field tank of the war. The ME-262 was the best aircraft. They had just developed a submarine that was capable of 17 knots submerged and that was a game changer. The Germans had so many technological aces that had they deployed them earlier, when they could have, it would have given them the edge. But everything had to go through the Fuehrer. Adolph was the choke point. And he failed.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:06 AM (AxABj)

752 The possibilities for Science Fiction are infinite!

Teleportation would cut down on the number of pedestrians struck by automobiles. It would, however, lead to a drastic increase in the number of pedestrians fused with automobiles.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 10, 2015 02:09 AM (UVfht)

753 Yeah, after seeing all that cool p-38 and P-51 train strafing footage
you would probably want to think twice about using a mode of
transportation whose tracks leave a nice pre determined route that can
be seen from space
------------
Yeah, and all those bushes driving down the road. Quite frankly, I wouldn't want to be a bush driving down a country road with all the Typhoons in the world flying around in the sky. They would probably think that a bush driving down the road would be suspicious.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:11 AM (AxABj)

754 In my debating debut
Your facts I will rebut
Until your arguments resemble
A ludicrous kazoo ensemble.

Posted by: zombie at March 10, 2015 02:12 AM (K4YiS)

755 Plus, rail was a pain on the russian front for the Germans. They didn't often get the lines and rolling stock intact when they advanced. The Russians would destroy anything that wasn't retreating west and destroyed their lines. More often than not, because of the lack of captured russian rolling stock, the Germans would have to rip up the russian lines and replace them, even if the Russians didn't, because of guage difference. It was an ongoing removal and replacement every time the lines changed. The Russians at least had an advantage in manpower and machinery, on a shorter line from home to engage in this back and forth. The Germans rarely got to employ rail to support an advance in the east.

Posted by: otho at March 10, 2015 02:12 AM (tBSrv)

756 I guess I'd better hit the sack. Here's a little ditty about kryptonite for leftists, the thing they call... Evidence...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lvMNLhJrb0

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 02:13 AM (5pg79)

757 Good night, everyone!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at March 10, 2015 02:14 AM (5pg79)

758 I dub that a "Chiastic Franco-Saxon Non-Rhyme."

Posted by: zombie at March 10, 2015 02:15 AM (K4YiS)

759 Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 10, 2015 02:09 AM (UVfht)
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Nah. You're thinking the Philadelphia Experiment where they wind up part of the ship. Pfffft. I'm thinking I can get up the hill to the casinos, instead of an hour drive I could be up there in seconds. And if I come in as an F150, no problem.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:15 AM (AxABj)

760 The Germans rarely got to employ rail to support an advance in the east.
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Not to mention the partisans blowing everything up every chance they got.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:17 AM (AxABj)

761 Nah. You're thinking the Philadelphia Experiment where they wind up part of the ship. Pfffft. I'm thinking I can get up the hill to the casinos, instead of an hour drive I could be up there in seconds. And if I come in as an F150, no problem.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:15 AM (AxABj)


That was also a ST:TNG episode

Posted by: To boldy go where no hat has gone before... at March 10, 2015 02:18 AM (0Ew3K)

762 Hmmm, missed all sorts of interesting discussion here whilst watching "Better Call Saul"- which was really very good. Guy who plays Mike did a helluva job. And the writing is just very, very good.

German production after Speer took over from Todt rose largely due to efficiencies and improvements intro'd by Speer (I think). Some have claimed that the rising production charts meant Allied bombing was ineffective, but I think that is baseless. Aside from the devastating impact of bombing on the transport network (noted by others), the bombing almost certainly prevented even *better* German numbers from being achieved.

It struck me, reading the last volume of Richard Evans' trilogy (Third Reich at War), that in the final two years of the war, the Allied bombing comes up constantly in connection with almost every development. And the book was general, not focused on logistics or industry per se.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2015 02:19 AM (afQnV)

763 Nah. You're thinking the Philadelphia Experiment where they wind up part
of the ship. Pfffft. I'm thinking I can get up the hill to the casinos,
instead of an hour drive I could be up there in seconds. And if I come
in as an F150, no problem.


There is precedent: http://youtu.be/9kz3hfJweE0 (Yes, it's SFW. Annoying, but safe.)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 10, 2015 02:22 AM (UVfht)

764 An a previous ONT I fondly recalled riding Soviet trains in the 70s, incl. how the wider guage made for more spacious compartments. And the clickety-clack of non-welded rails (wonder if that's changed?).

And speaking of material aid to the USSR in the war, during that same few months I spent over there, I noted that the little trailers they used for the big tanks of "kvas", a summer beverage that was sold in parks and on street corners, were actually Willy's jeep trailers (I checked them out up close and saw the identifying marks, I believe).

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2015 02:23 AM (afQnV)

765 Speer was very good at using slave labor to achieve his goals. I was impressed when I read that Germany (and this was West Germany) did not fully recover from the war and allied strategic bombing until the early 1980's. Fully forty years from the end of the war. Although strategic bombing did not shorten or end the war, it certainly messed them up.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:26 AM (AxABj)

766 German production after Speer took over from Todt rose largely due to efficiencies and improvements intro'd by Speer (I think). Some have claimed that the rising production charts meant Allied bombing was ineffective, but I think that is baseless. Aside from the devastating impact of bombing on the transport network (noted by others), the bombing almost certainly prevented even *better* German numbers from being achieved. It struck me, reading the last volume of Richard Evans' trilogy (Third Reich at War), that in the final two years of the war, the Allied bombing comes up constantly in connection with almost every development. And the book was general, not focused on logistics or industry per se.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2015 02:19 AM

The bombing was crucial in ensuring that the Type XXI u-boat was not in full production in time to make a difference and the Type XXI was potentially the biggest game changer they had, more so than the ME-262. A relatively small number of those (compared to the number of 262's required to make an impact) could've altered things quite a bit.

Speer is a weird element in the production side of things. He was very good at what he did, but, at least in some critical developments, he acted as a brake on new designs that should have been built in higher numbers and/or earlier. Speer was obssessed with numbers and influenced Hitler to large degree in the same view.

Posted by: otho at March 10, 2015 02:28 AM (tBSrv)

767 And speaking of material aid to the USSR in the war, during that same few months I spent over there, I noted that the little trailers they used for the big tanks of "kvas", a summer beverage that was sold in parks and on street corners, were actually Willy's jeep trailers (I checked them out up close and saw the identifying marks, I believe).
Posted by: rhomboid


I am a kvas-oholic, and occasionally will make a pilgrimage to the Russian and Ukrainian food markets in SF's Outer Richmond District, which carry various brands of Ukrainian kvas which are otherwise completely unavailable in the USA.

People think I'm crazy, but I just love that stuff! (I'm sure the home-brewed kvas can be pretty dodgy, but the professionally made and bottled stuff is safe and tasty!)

Posted by: zombie at March 10, 2015 02:28 AM (K4YiS)

768 Yeah, true, the mind has long since boggled, and the "this will REALLY be the last straw" line keeps getting moved as things get worse, but an old Beltway friend and I agreed today that if Hillary survives this situation - there really IS no hope (the email thing esp. security issues, the audacious bribery situation with the foundation).

Because, think about it. Hillary (or anyone else) would, fairly rationally, calculate that they can get away with literally anything, without consequences (even political costs).

I seriously don't recognize or even feel any connection to the civic culture that has emerged in under two decades.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2015 02:29 AM (afQnV)

769 Blanco, tell me you wouldn't love to drive that car around. *grabbeee hands* * I wants it*

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:31 AM (AxABj)

770 Hey assholes, Old Blue, is a fascist plant.

No need to address his ass at all.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 02:31 AM (XvsbD)

771 Although strategic bombing did not shorten or end the war, it certainly messed them up.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:26 AM (AxABj)


It didn't win the war, but perhaps it won the peace.

Posted by: Hat waved by Col. Kong at March 10, 2015 02:33 AM (0Ew3K)

772 I seriously don't recognize or even feel any connection to the civic culture that has emerged in under two decades.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2015 02:29 AM (afQnV)

And that's the most dangerous thing to America possible. We are not a nation of ethnicity, or a nation of culture, but a nation of laws. When those laws no longer mean anything thanks to the decay of civics, nothing holds us together.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at March 10, 2015 02:35 AM (J+mig)

773 otho - intereting. I need to read more deeply into Speer and the whole production story.

zombie - wow, didn't know kvas was bottled and sold. And it's beena few years, but I used to explore the Russian places out in the Richmond district.

Recall seeing amovie - damn, even remember it was the original Rush Hour! - at a theater in the Richmond. Friend's wife is Chinese-American. Lots of chatter in the theater during the flick. Friend's wife tried to translate the Cantonese she was hearing, while I did my best with the Russian-speaking guys in the back ..... friend was amused.

Kvas out of these huge tanks on jeep caissons was the only available drinkable drink (Soviet mineral water was nasty - very salty - years later I actually got down to the sources in Borjomi, Georgia, where I had the run of Stalin's dacha for an afternoon). Shared glasses, of course. Yikes! I'd skip lunch at the cafeteria (cabbage, bread, butter, bread, cabbage, butter, cabbage .... and this was summer time) and eat the mystery-meat pirozhiki from street vendors. Amazing I never got sick and didn't come away with giardia.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2015 02:37 AM (afQnV)

774 Blanco, tell me you wouldn't love to drive that car around. *grabbeee hands* * I wants it*

The car would be nice, but I could do without the factory equipped nagging.

G'night everyone!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 10, 2015 02:38 AM (UVfht)

775 Otho, I don't know. The Me-262 could have been huge in the air war. My understanding is that Hitler wanted the 262 to have a ground war component similar to the Stuka, and that delayed production. He could have had an air superiority fighter in 1943 and the changes he wanted delayed its deployment until late 1944. Changing the air war over Europe could have been a game changer. The Brits didn't have their jet fighter until late 1944.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:38 AM (AxABj)

776 I missed Peaches and Merovign?!? %&$#*!!!

Skimming through the comments after... *shortened* insomnia-stuff, I noticed this...

..."And, I'm going to Hell for both telling that story here and laughing about it for months after hearing it from my sister. BIL is an insufferable, pompous douchebag."

"I'll save y'all a seat at the Cool Kids table there."
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015

Somewhere in that is a Metal Tune about the "Cool Kids' Table in Hell."

John F. Kennedy would be there, right next to Woodrow Wilson and every other miscreant with a "D" burned into their Damned foreheads.

Maybe they'd discuss -The Right Way To Do Things- with Karl Marx and Adolph Hitler. Perhaps you'd see Margaret Sanger playing chess with Osama Bin Laden.

You could throw 'Muppets' creator Jim Henson in there for Comic Relief. You could play-act their anticipation of Neil Young, Cat Stevens and Barack Obama. You could describe the 'Activity Pit' for lawyers, KKK members and telemarketers.

...maybe not. I should be asleep.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 02:41 AM (16bOT)

777 Kvas out of these huge tanks on jeep caissons was the only available drinkable drink (Soviet mineral water was nasty - very salty - years later I actually got down to the sources in Borjomi, Georgia, where I had the run of Stalin's dacha for an afternoon).
Posted by: rhomboid



yeah. where's the trust?

Where's the continental trust.

We as Arrogant Westerners, have a sense or threshold of, hmm...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 02:42 AM (XvsbD)

778 Well, I tried on a very basic dream-state level.

G'Night!

*static*

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 02:44 AM (16bOT)

779 I find it close to unserious to pretend to believe that strategic bombing did not shorten the war and reduce Allied casualties from what they would have been. No accounts of German operations in the west (from the Cobra break-out to final stages in Germany) are without major to decisive problems involving logistics directly attributable to bombing.

Cato - exactly, brother, exactly. America is an idea, a mindset, a way of doing things. Not lines on a map. But it requires Americans (mindset). Seems those are out-numbered by those who cavalierly and cluelessly degrade and vandalize the civic culture today, and the voters who keep electing them.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2015 02:45 AM (afQnV)

780 776
I missed Peaches and Merovign?!? %$#*!!!



Skimming through the comments after... *shortened* insomnia-stuff, I noticed this...



..."And, I'm going to Hell for both telling that story here and
laughing about it for months after hearing it from my sister. BIL is an
insufferable, pompous douchebag."



"I'll save y'all a seat at the Cool Kids table there."

-Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015



Somewhere in that is a Metal Tune about the "Cool Kids' Table in Hell."



John F. Kennedy would be there, right next to Woodrow Wilson and
every other miscreant with a "D" burned into their Damned foreheads.



Maybe they'd discuss -The Right Way To Do Things- with Karl Marx and
Adolph Hitler. Perhaps you'd see Margaret Sanger playing chess with
Osama Bin Laden.



You could throw 'Muppets' creator Jim Henson in there for Comic
Relief. You could play-act their anticipation of Neil Young, Cat
Stevens and Barack Obama. You could describe the 'Activity Pit' for
lawyers, KKK members and telemarketers.



...maybe not. I should be asleep.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 02:41 AM (16bOT)


You should be asleep, experiencing the sweet repose of the Blessed.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 02:47 AM (T1005)

781 weft-cut, you lost me there ..... continental trust?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2015 02:47 AM (afQnV)

782 Otho, I don't know. The Me-262 could have been huge in the air war. My understanding is that Hitler wanted the 262 to have a ground war component similar to the Stuka, and that delayed production. He could have had an air superiority fighter in 1943 and the changes he wanted delayed its deployment until late 1944. Changing the air war over Europe could have been a game changer. The Brits didn't have their jet fighter until late 1944.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:38 AM

Yes, production was delayed. Partly due to faffing around with it's role and partly due to turbine problems. Whatever the case, the ME-262, as brilliant as it was, had no real hope of impacting the air war... short of being produced in MASSIVE numbers, which the Germans could not have managed anyway. It was a fantastic and effective fighter, but, it wasn't ALL that much better at what counted most, shooting down heavy bombers. The FW-190 was much better equipped to do that than the ME-262. It's real value lay in fighter vs fighter and the numbers needed to acheive fighter superiority was beyond them, even as early as 1943. Don't forget, that as good as it was, it wasn't 1 vs 10 good.

Posted by: otho at March 10, 2015 02:47 AM (tBSrv)

783
765 Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:26 AM (AxABj)

Although strategic bombing did not shorten or end the war, it certainly messed them up.


If you look at German armament production numbers, mostly tank and aircraft, and then do a bit of extrapolation to remove the disruption caused by strategic bombing, the Germans have far more in 1943, 1944 and 1945. WW2 would have been much longer and bloodier. The Soviets might have been held to a stalemate post-Kursk. An atomic bomb or two would have likely been necessary. The end might have been in '46 or '47.

Posted by: Arbalest at March 10, 2015 02:47 AM (FlRtG)

784 620
Thanks for all the fun here. I'm off to bed w/ the wife and the new puppy.
Be well all.
T
Posted by: Farmer at March 10, 2015 12:32 AM (o/90i)
Kinky!
Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at March 10, 2015 12:47 AM

You sir/madam are a very sick individual.

Nice to see you here.

The new pup, Kahlua, is sleeping well. I hope you do too.

Posted by: Farmer at March 10, 2015 02:49 AM (o/90i)

785 weft-cut, you lost me there ..... continental trust?
Posted by: rhomboid



Not worth it really.


US V. EU
http://youtu.be/ag-G8yDfsjk

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 02:49 AM (XvsbD)

786 Weft cut, why don't you just fuck off and die? You're being an absolute asshole tonight. Why don't you take five minutes and dig Hillary's dick out of your ass. You might feel better. Right after you take Obama's and Holder's dicks out your mouth. I have no idea why you think you have to dick with me tonight, but just because you think you have to be a fucking asshole, go right ahead and be a fucking asshole. I could really give a rats ass. Just another keyboard warrior. If it wasn't for your mother's basement, you wouldn't have a place to live. I could give you a buck on the corner if I should happen to pass you by.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:50 AM (AxABj)

787 Arbalest, nuking Berlin would have been an interesting twist (and what would likely have happened if Germany lasted until August). No divided Berlin - just, no Berlin! No Potsdam conference - perhaps a Heidelberg (untouched) conference?

And imagine the conversations in Tokyo. Actually probably wouldn't have changed much, Hiroshima still would have been needed. Japanese Army was convinced it could slog on, and make Olympic so painful that unconditional surrender could be avoided.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2015 02:53 AM (afQnV)

788 Let me dig the book out. The Strategic Bombing Campaign most definitely did shorten the war. It took one German infantry Division over 30 days to get from the Lyon area of France up to the Normandy Battlefield in June/July of 44.

Why? Rail lines are busted. Cant travel at day due to Allied Tac Air. Bridges are out and you have to wait for Engineers to repair or find barges to floa across on.

Tanks are sitting at the factory because there is no transport to front lines. Tanks are sitting on the assembly line because the rail that carries the engines to the factory have been bombed out.

ETC ETC

Posted by: Luap Nor's last brain cell at March 10, 2015 02:54 AM (C8x6r)

789 Signing off. Too tired to start the updated version of The Great Terror tonight. Hopefully tomorrow.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2015 02:55 AM (afQnV)

790 Weft cut, why don't you just fuck off and die? You're being an absolute asshole tonight. Posted by: Old Blue

You seem angry. Like obscenely angry.

What gives, amigo?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 02:56 AM (XvsbD)

791 and make Olympic so painful that unconditional surrender could be avoided.
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That basically was the plan. The Japanese still had a huge number of soldiers under arms, that if they could have brought them back to the home islands could have been huge. They had every beach zeroed in with artillery and they had every man woman and child ready to give their life to the Emperor. It was estimated that US casualties would number over one million and Japanese casualties would have been at least double that.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:58 AM (AxABj)

792 otho - intereting. I need to read more deeply into Speer and the whole production story.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2015 02:37 AM

He was an excellent manager, but, he didn't have a clue about what he was making and had much more influence with Hitler than just about everybody else when it came to production. Speer fell into the trap of high numbers at the expense of everything else, so old relatively surpassed (if not outright obsolete) designs were favoured instead of shutting down factories and converting them to the new weapons. Hitler ended up in a sort of schizo back and forth over these things, one day demanding the new designs be mass produced pronto, then the next, allowing Speer to delay things so production would not be interrupted. Speer was also a huge fan of the M4 Sherman and wanted that sort of tank... but with things the way they were, Germany could never produce those sorts of numbers and they really needed tanks that were much better than the allies... there's no point producing 100 "Shermans", or even Mk 1V's, instead of 60 Tigers or Panthers. Trained tank crews were in short supply, they would have been fodder anyway. etc etc...

Posted by: otho at March 10, 2015 03:00 AM (tBSrv)

793 Arbalest, nuking Berlin would have been an interesting twist (and what would likely have happened if Germany lasted until August). No divided Berlin - just, no Berlin! No Potsdam conference - perhaps a Heidelberg (untouched) conference?

And imagine the conversations in Tokyo. Actually probably wouldn't have changed much, Hiroshima still would have been needed. Japanese Army was convinced it could slog on, and make Olympic so painful that unconditional surrender could be avoided.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2015 02:53 AM (afQnV)


Read an interesting Alt. History where Halifax becomes PM instead of Churchill and the Germans do better in the East. Basically there is a de facto armistice in the West and Stalin is killed in a bombing raid (thus fracturing the Soviets and allowing Germany to take everything up to the urals).

Well, the Americans are able to convince the Germans that nuclear bombs are "Jewish science" which means Japan ends up total "Operation Downfall"... which resulted in Japan being kept in a nearly pre-historic level of technology.

The war flares back-up in the 1950's with a pathetic long range hit on New York. The allies refrain from WMDs until Germany launches poison gas attacks on Britain... which manage to kill the Queens children.

Germany isn't only nuked, but a couple of cities are laced with anthrax.

War ends after a couple years of fighting, northern France petitions to join the UK as "Normandy", and the US/UK/ANZAC (but not India) exlude everyone else from space and build a giant mass driver which they use against a rioting Germans city with the force of an a-bomb.

Interesting read.

Posted by: The Alternate Hat at March 10, 2015 03:04 AM (0Ew3K)

794 "You should be asleep, experiencing the sweet repose of the Blessed."
-Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 02:47 AM (T1005)

My call went straight to Voice-Mail.

*squints*

I've jumped in during a discussion of the complex alliances, facets and diversions of National Socialism, Communism, Naziism, anarchy and their nearly sole connection to The Left.

I have not the energy, nor the gumption to delve into such intricacies. As an aside, I'd rather watch the debate and learn something because I don't know what I don't know.

(That is a Lost Art at times. Saying "I don't know" can be a scoff-worthy endeavor when amongst those who believe so much that just is not so.)

I actually enjoy being corrected when my facts aren't straight. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Cite sources and treat others as you would have them treat you.

...except Trolls.

-Beat them about the head and neck with the bludgeoning object you have on-hand. Personally, I prefer a 36", 30oz Louisville Slugger. YMMV.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 03:05 AM (16bOT)

795 Shiite. I may be drunk.
I see that Slap is here - did anyone mention that my Sis could use one of his wonderful prayers?

Ok. Confirmed.
I'm fucking drunk...

Posted by: shredded chi at March 10, 2015 03:05 AM (OmYAr)

796 That basically was the plan. The Japanese still had a huge number of soldiers under arms, that if they could have brought them back to the home islands could have been huge. They had every beach zeroed in with artillery and they had every man woman and child ready to give their life to the Emperor. It was estimated that US casualties would number over one million and Japanese casualties would have been at least double that.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 02:58 AM (AxABj)


That is why we are still using to this day Purple Hearts intended for expected casualties from the Japanese invasion.

Posted by: The Striking Hat at March 10, 2015 03:07 AM (0Ew3K)

797
What gives, amigo?
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Like I said earlier, normally I enjoy your commentary. For some odd reason or another, you want to call me a communist, or a fascist or a troll. I'm not really sure why. I've commented here before and never had the invective that you've thrown at me tonight. If you want to be a dick, fine, be a dick. I'm not sure if you've had too much to drink and you just want to pick a fight, or what. I don't care. Right now you're being the typical keyboard warrior, just like a monkey throwing crap. You'd be doing great over on Kos right now. You'd fit right in.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 03:09 AM (AxABj)

798 790
Weft cut, why don't you just fuck off and die? You're being an absolute asshole tonight. Posted by: Old Blue



You seem angry. Like obscenely angry.



What gives, amigo?



Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2015 02:56 AM (XvsbD)


Not that I have a dog in this fight, AT ALL -- but the symptoms would seem to indicate that you are tossing around terms as teases or polite insults that Old Blue would take as existential threats and/or insults against personal experience.....the sort of thing where you might label someone a "communist" because they'd lived on a commune, where they had actually lost large swathes of their family to Communism and "kill all the motherfucking Communists" is built into their DNA.

Again, this is a surface observation and not a thorough analysis.

But it would be best for both sides to remember the "Comity of Moronhood" rules and try to avoid escalation into banhammering -- 'cause, after all, it's generally better to eat a little crow than have a bannination shoved down your throat. Not that I have my finger on a banhammer or all that.....just have been observing for a while.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 03:09 AM (T1005)

799 -Posted by: shredded chi at March 10, 2015 03:05 AM (OmYAr)

Your BIL needs a biopsy or something? I had to speed-read the ONT, (over an hour), and I am surprised that I even checked-in.

(I've been running baseball numbers since 4:00 am yesterday morning.)

What is the situation, Sir?

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 03:10 AM (16bOT)

800 That is why we are still using to this day Purple Hearts intended for expected casualties from the Japanese invasion.
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The US built huge medical facilities on Saipan for the expected number of casualties. Fortunately, they were never needed. The US troops scheduled to go ashore in Japan were grateful for the bomb.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 03:14 AM (AxABj)

801 ...forgive me if my "dreamland prayer" isn't up to my normal standards. I'm fairly loopy after an hours' worth of "sleep" that was supposed to have resulted in arising sometime around 9:00 am in the morning.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 03:14 AM (16bOT)

802 Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 03:09 AM (T1005)
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Thank you. I shall refrain from responding to any further insults from weft.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 03:18 AM (AxABj)

803
FW-190 and the ME 262:

Wiki lists several variants of each AC ... Bottom line, the 262, with typically 4 30mm low-velocity cannon (but with excellent high explosive projectiles) has a much greater chance of knocking down any bomber than just about any FW-190 variant ... and the 262 is about 150 mph faster, so yes, it could have been a game changer as late as Summer 1944.

The new U-boats could also have been game changers, but they were much too late.


rhomboid: Offing Berlin ... I think that if the Normandy breakout had failed, and France was still a battlefield in August '45, and the Soviets were stalled in Poland, then Berlin would have been targeted. But had the Rhine been crossed, even as late as July, there would have no longer been a need.

Posted by: Arbalest at March 10, 2015 03:20 AM (FlRtG)

804 Okay... without knowing the entire situation, I'll ask that God find His way into the heart of your Sister, so as to pacify and alleviate her fears.

Might despair within her soul be comforted by His love, as those around her show hope and light within the unknown darkness.

I ask of Thee, Oh Lord. Grant that our joy through our small family be buoyant of her spirit.

Might our prayers find this gentleman well in body, mind and spirit.

In Jesus' Name, I Pray...

*amen*

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 03:25 AM (16bOT)

805 ''Somewhere in that is a Metal Tune about the "Cool Kids' Table in Hell."



You know, that got me thinking. I don't think there was ever such a song. There might have been a few that might be close. Not sure they ever had a genuine breakfast club in hell for metal heads though. Valhalla yes, but not hell. Hell's afraid we'll take over. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 10, 2015 03:27 AM (FMbng)

806 Arbalest, I don't think the Soviet troops were stalled in Poland so much as Stalin wanted them "stalled." Soviet radio had been urging the Poles in Warsaw to rise up and fight the fascists. The Polish forces in Warsaw were more aligned with the Polish government in exile in Great Britain than they were with the Communists. Stalin let the Germans do his dirty work for him. The the Polish nationalists out of the way, the Polish communists in Moscow could exert control.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 03:29 AM (AxABj)

807 -Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 10, 2015 03:27 AM (FMbng)

Exactly. There's a lot of fun to be had with that tile alone. My head went into overdrive when I saw it.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 03:30 AM (16bOT)

808 *title

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 03:30 AM (16bOT)

809 ..."Hell's afraid we'll take over. lol"
-Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 10, 2015 03:27 AM (FMbng)

Oh, shit. I hadn't even considered that angle! *HAH!*

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 03:32 AM (16bOT)

810 799
-Posted by: shredded chi at March 10, 2015 03:05 AM (OmYAr)



Your BIL needs a biopsy or something? I had to speed-read the ONT, (over an hour), and I am surprised that I even checked-in.



(I've been running baseball numbers since 4:00 am yesterday morning.)



What is the situation, Sir?

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 03:10 AM (16bOT)


Chi's BiL has a tumor on his pelvis that they caught fairly early on. Unfortunately, (a) a pelvis is not something you want to do without, and (b) bones don't generally develop cancers spontaneously, it's more usual for them to get it from somewhere else....and there's no guarantee that the somewhere else is "fairly early on" since it's obviously malignant and spreading.


Which leaves us with a great deal of uncertainty and concern. In addition, the BiL has a new grandson that I have seen pictures of Chi holding.

This news has, as you might well imagine, ripped through Chi's family.

While it would be facile to pray that this is minor and a little Dremel-work on the pelvis might take care of everything, a more reasonable expectation is that things are at the beginning of a journey -- and there will be triumphs and setbacks, horrors and joy, relief and despair.....with an end that will be clear only well after arrival.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 03:33 AM (T1005)

811 Slap,

Maybe I can email you?
Yeah, not good news, but we're hoping for the best.

The collective prayers of the Horde have been amazing, but yours in particular has been missed.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 10, 2015 03:34 AM (OmYAr)

812 The 262 had the potential to be harder hitting than the FW-190, but the armament and characteristics in flight meant that it was more difficult to bring it to bombers than the FW-190. This is in regards the commonly produced 262 and IIRC, the FW-190A8(?). I'm not trying to convince anyone that the 262 was inferior to the FW, just that the numbers required to make a significant difference over that provided by the FW was too high for cost/reward for bomber kills and way too high for fighter parity

Posted by: otho at March 10, 2015 03:34 AM (tBSrv)

813 802
Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 03:09 AM (T1005)
-------
Thank you. I shall refrain from responding to any further insults from weft.


Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 03:18 AM (AxABj)


You're quite welcome. I feel like you've been puttin' me some knowledge over the course of the thread, and I appreciate it.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 03:35 AM (T1005)

814 Cower, lunch hour
All are souls that Satan devours.
Unstable, disabled
JFK is at the same table.
You never get over the wretched smell.
Sitting at the Cool Kids' Table in Hell.

*meh*

Did I mention that I haven't slept?



Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 03:39 AM (16bOT)

815 Oh, shit. I hadn't even considered that angle! *HAH!*

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 03:32 AM (16bOT)


Hell-hound, hot leather on your legs
that smoking powder keg
you're riding on is hell-bound
and you're the one they claim
its going down on flames
you're riding hades rails

\mm/ \mm/

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 10, 2015 03:39 AM (FMbng)

816 BTW, Huffington Post is basically accusing Sen. Tom Cotton of treason and other are saying he violated the Logan Act.

Huffinton Post implies, via a Iranian diplomat, that future administrations are bound to negotiations of the Obama administration due to "international law"?

http://huff.to/1E7ZsLL

Any bets that Obama will go after Cotton?

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 03:40 AM (0Ew3K)

817 -Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 03:33 AM (T1005)

Thank you for filling me in. I was caught unawares.

-Posted by: shredded chi at March 10, 2015 03:34 AM (OmYAr)

I would not mind at all, but I may slump in my chair soon.

Thank you for the kind words about my meager efforts for comfort. May they suffice in lieu of a Professional.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 03:45 AM (16bOT)

818 816
BTW, Huffington Post is basically accusing Sen. Tom Cotton of treason and other are saying he violated the Logan Act.



Huffinton Post implies, via a Iranian diplomat, that future
administrations are bound to negotiations of the Obama administration
due to "international law"?



http://huff.to/1E7ZsLL



Any bets that Obama will go after Cotton?

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 03:40 AM (0Ew3K)


He's already going after Clinton and Menendez, why not?

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 03:47 AM (T1005)

819 Any bets that Obama will go after Cotton?

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 03:40 AM (0Ew3K)


Like I said in an earlier thread. Obama can go fuck himself. When he was running for president and wasn't even elected yet he was flying all over the planet on his bullshit fake airforce one sticking his fucking face in all of Bush's foreign affairs, including trying to cut deals with the Iraqis. Fuck him.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 10, 2015 03:50 AM (FMbng)

820 Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 03:35 AM (T1005)
--------
Thank you as well for being a calm voice of reason. Prayer for Chi's BiL. I had a good friend at work and we had both been there for many years, both with the same insurance and everything. I was two months older than him. Every year I go and have my doctor do the manual prostate exam. He didn't. Last year he told me that he had been diagnosed with prostate cancer and it had metastasized into his bones. I was so angry with him for not getting checked. It was a free test. I checked with him just before I retired, and he is responding well to chemo and radiation. I wished him well and I hope for as many years as he can gather.
We all do the best that we can do. I'm hoping that shredded chi's BiL has many many more years to live and it is something that a little Dremel work can fix and that he has a lifetime to live with his grandson.
God bless the family. Here's hoping he lives to see his grandson graduate college.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 03:50 AM (AxABj)

821 Huffinton Post implies, via a Iranian diplomat, that future

administrations are bound to negotiations of the Obama administration

due to "international law"?
--------
If the JEF pulls this off, it will have the same force of law that Clinton's "agreement" with the Ukraine will have. In other words, it ain't worth the piece of paper it's written on.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 03:54 AM (AxABj)

822 820
Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 03:35 AM (T1005)
--------
Thank
you as well for being a calm voice of reason. Prayer for Chi's BiL. I
had a good friend at work and we had both been there for many years,
both with the same insurance and everything. I was two months older than
him. Every year I go and have my doctor do the manual prostate exam. He
didn't. Last year he told me that he had been diagnosed with prostate
cancer and it had metastasized into his bones. I was so angry with him
for not getting checked. It was a free test. I checked with him just
before I retired, and he is responding well to chemo and radiation. I
wished him well and I hope for as many years as he can gather.
We
all do the best that we can do. I'm hoping that shredded chi's BiL has
many many more years to live and it is something that a little Dremel
work can fix and that he has a lifetime to live with his grandson.
God bless the family. Here's hoping he lives to see his grandson graduate college.


Posted by: Old Blue at March 10, 2015 03:50 AM (AxABj)


Amen.

I did some research, and if it has spread to the bone, it's generally from the prostate, lungs, thyroid, or kidneys. Rapidly tracing it back to the source and assessing it there will be key -- and it can only help that half of these have 100% redundancy while the other half have reasonable workarounds if lost. There is much to hope for, much to pray for.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 04:02 AM (T1005)

823 Rock-a-bye, and goodnight,



Go to sleep, troubled Morons.....



Lay you down now, and rest,




May your slumber be blessed!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 04:09 AM (T1005)

824 Weft cut-loop pokes, sets out cheese for traps and wants you to react in a manner unbecoming of your character.

He's a Character. A well-read, provocative Character!

The best way to deal with him is to act as if he is a Bull. Hold out your cape and let him charge. Say something funny and let him run through the red cape.

He rarely charges twice, but when he does, he's not as aggressive.

Horde Rule: Sometimes, even "Slapweasel" is drunk. He charges and bites your ankle, avoiding the cape. Your best course of action is Not to Respond.

"Witty" is the dispersal of many a charging Bull. Avoidance is the black hole for misdirected or sudden aggression.

Weft is, indeed, a valued member of the Horde. I love the guy. He's "got a way about him" and I don't give a shit if he ever changes.

If he did? It wouldn't be the same around here.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 04:10 AM (16bOT)

825 SHOO!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 04:12 AM (T1005)

826 "SHOO!!!"
-Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 04:12 AM (T1005)

You misunderstand insomnia.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 04:16 AM (16bOT)

827 You misunderstand insomnia.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 04:16 AM (16bOT)


I just go with it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 10, 2015 04:18 AM (FMbng)

828 Okay, okay... I suppose I'm making little sense.

Good Night.

*STATIC*

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 04:18 AM (16bOT)

829 826
"SHOO!!!"

-Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 04:12 AM (T1005)



You misunderstand insomnia.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at March 10, 2015 04:16 AM (16bOT)


I understand it fine.
Rock-a-bye, and goodnight,



Go to sleep, troubled Morons.....



Lay you down now, and rest,





May your slumber be blessed!


....or, if you insist on the "Greatest Hits" version of Cthulhu Sings....

I sang this a capella to Rum while driving her through San Francisco -- http://tinyurl.com/neamw4d .

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 04:36 AM (T1005)

830 Speaking of which, here's an example of the subversive and libertine music I listened to when I was very young (being from an album released four years before my birth) -- http://tinyurl.com/la7z7f8

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 04:42 AM (T1005)

831 830
Speaking of which, here's an example of the subversive and libertine
music I listened to when I was very young (being from an album released
four years before my birth) -- http://tinyurl.com/la7z7f8


Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 04:42 AM (T1005)


====perhaps we should scurry away in horror before you pollute us further.

Posted by: jc at March 10, 2015 04:47 AM (iRJ+A)

832 A little something the fiancee brought home -- http://tinyurl.com/mkd8bd5

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 04:50 AM (T1005)

833 831
830

Speaking of which, here's an example of the subversive and libertine

music I listened to when I was very young (being from an album released

four years before my birth) -- http://tinyurl.com/la7z7f8




Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 04:42 AM (T1005)


====perhaps we should scurry away in horror before you pollute us further.


Posted by: jc at March 10, 2015 04:47 AM (iRJ+A)


Well, y'know -- could be worse.....could involve moose.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 04:51 AM (T1005)

834 Well, y'know -- could be worse.....could involve moose.


Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 04:51 AM (T1005)

====and that means ....... jerky. which really is worth it all in all.

Posted by: jc at March 10, 2015 04:57 AM (iRJ+A)

835 You've run everybody off again I see. Oh well back to work, still got trails to groom. Snow sucks melted today. Springs coming, I could smell it today

Posted by: NativeNH at March 10, 2015 05:05 AM (u0C8U)

836 834
Well, y'know -- could be worse.....could involve moose.




Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 04:51 AM (T1005)

====and that means ....... jerky. which really is worth it all in all.


Posted by: jc at March 10, 2015 04:57 AM (iRJ+A)


Trying to cross-index mousse and jerkin' got me here -- http://tinyurl.com/m3auyuo -- but I'm not sure if I may have gone astray....

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 05:08 AM (T1005)

837 Trying to cross-index mousse and jerkin' got me here
-- http://tinyurl.com/m3auyuo -- but I'm not sure if I may have gone
astray....


Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 05:08 AM (T1005)

===might have made more sense with a hair band, but nobody should be subjected to any of that again.

Posted by: jc at March 10, 2015 05:26 AM (iRJ+A)

838 Posted by: The Alternate Hat at March 10, 2015 03:04 AM (0Ew3K)
---
Political hat, can you give me the title and author of this alternate history?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 10, 2015 05:37 AM (KH1sk)

839 Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 10, 2015 05:42 AM (lG2E3)

840 OK, something a little more likely to get a grin -- http://tinyurl.com/ny6elxr

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 05:42 AM (T1005)

841 Posted by: The Alternate Hat at March 10, 2015 03:04 AM (0Ew3K)
---
Political hat, can you give me the title and author of this alternate history?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 10, 2015 05:37 AM (KH1sk)

It was the "Anglo/American - Nazi War" by CalBear origionally on the alternatehistory forums.

I don't have the links to the original forums, but a link to the collected text can be found here:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/258236548/The-Anglo-American-Nazi-War

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 05:48 AM (0Ew3K)

842 OK, something a little more likely to get a grin -- http://tinyurl.com/ny6elxr

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 05:42 AM (T1005)


That band = hipster, according to Glove & Boots

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 05:50 AM (0Ew3K)

843 All Hail Eris,

The link to the full work should work. If not, e-mail me at e-mail in link.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 05:51 AM (0Ew3K)

844 842
OK, something a little more likely to get a grin -- http://tinyurl.com/ny6elxr



Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 05:42 AM (T1005)



That band = hipster, according to Glove Boots

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 05:50 AM (0Ew3K)


I found 'em through Insty a couple of years back. I wouldn't look to them to discuss Constitutional law.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 05:55 AM (T1005)

845 Thanks PH! Link works.

And alas, so must I, so I'll read it tonight.

Go forth with a song in your heart and a shiv in your boot, Gentlefappers!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 10, 2015 05:59 AM (KH1sk)

846 As a contrast -- I found this band 'cause I was in the SB club scene way back when -- http://tinyurl.com/lk2teyv

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 06:01 AM (T1005)

847 I would like to do things to that little troll doll. Maybe feed it to Adam-zad. Or cage it and burn it. But, it's only plastic and plastic and plastic. Too bad that it looks so much like a powerful manipulator. It seems immoral to take joy in destroying a toy.
That is a powerful message in that poem by Kipling. Beware, I suppose, is the best take-away. Or maybe it is saying "act like Han!".

Posted by: goon at March 10, 2015 06:01 AM (gNTQS)

848 Hey! That Megan is my kind of girl! Bacon did not appear anywhere on her list! Feed a girl beans and she will ... well, you know, so, give her the bacon!

Posted by: goon at March 10, 2015 06:08 AM (gNTQS)

849 Hasn't anyone remarked that Boehner is hairless, lipless and faceless? Well, he didn't get that way by accident!

Posted by: Adam-Zad Obama at March 10, 2015 06:14 AM (rQe9y)

850 Not one more dime to any damn Arab country. None for Egypt, none for ... (insert list here). None. They need to reduce their populations by lead poisoning, and there is no better time than the present to begin. They want help? F*ck'em!

(p.s. I have never understood why F*ck'em never throws an error in my spell checker. Life is strange, but giving money to people that hate our guts is even stranger!)

Posted by: goon at March 10, 2015 06:16 AM (gNTQS)

851 I found 'em through Insty a couple of years back. I wouldn't look to them to discuss Constitutional law.

Posted by: cthulhu at March 10, 2015 05:55 AM (T1005)


Sadly, I would respect them far more reagrding "law" than some "international law" student who insists that the shenanigans of a President must be respected by all future adminstrations!

For example, my discussion between myself and https://twitter.com/CEs_Mustache

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 10, 2015 06:16 AM (0Ew3K)

852 821
Huffinton Post implies, via a Iranian diplomat, that future


administrations are bound to negotiations of the Obama administration


due to "international law"?


Yes, just look at the precedent of the League of Nations which has been in force since... oh wait...

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