Seven Wealthy Men Keeping Their Money at the Scandal-Plagued HSBC Have Donated/Bribed $81 Million to Hillary Clinton's Bribery Storefront

When the HSBC banking scandal broke again last month, I wondered if the Clintons were connected to it.

Duh. Of course the Clintons are connected to it.

The charitable foundation run by Hillary Clinton and her family has received as much as $81m from wealthy international donors who were clients of HSBC’s controversial Swiss bank.
Leaked files from HSBC’s Swiss banking division reveal the identities of seven donors to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation with accounts in Geneva.
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Hillary Clinton has expressed concern over growing economic inequality in the US and is expected to make the issue a cornerstone of her widely anticipated presidential campaign in 2016. However, political observers are increasingly asking whether the former secretary of state’s focus on wealth inequality sits uncomfortably with the close relationships she and her husband have nurtured with some of the world’s richest individuals.

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Another Clinton foundation donor who had a HSBC account in the tax haven is Jeffrey Epstein, the hedge fund manager and convicted sex offender who once flew the former president on his private jet for charity events in Africa.

One guy, named Caring, gave the foundation -- which, by the way, is largley a front group to keep the Clintons' political staff paid between elections -- one million dollars from his tax-free HSBC account in exchange for Bill Clinton's appearance at his lavish costume party in St. Petersburg, Russia.

Caring arranged for 18th century Russian costumes, borrowed from the Hermitage Museum, to be tailor-fitted for each guest at the event at Catherine the Great's Winter Palace. Photographs from the event in November 2005 show Bill Clinton, dressed as a Russian general, partying with other VIP guests such as Elizabeth Hurley. Entertainment was provided by Tina Turner and Elton John.

Caring fundraised during this event, and sent some money, he says, to a British Children's charity and.. the Clinton foundation.

But Ms. Clinton is totes a crusader against income inequality. And also, closing tax loopholes for the rich. Like HSBC.

"One of the issues that I have been preaching about around the world is collecting taxes in an equitable manner, especially from the elites in every country," Hillary Clinton told audience of the Clinton Global Initiative in 2012, when she was still secretary of state. "It is a fact that around the world, the elites of every country are making money. There are rich people everywhere. And yet they do not contribute to the growth of their own countries. They don't invest in public schools, in public hospitals, in other kinds of development internally."
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A spokesperson for Hillary Clinton declined to comment about her family foundation’s receipt of money from donors with accounts in Geneva.

Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton's convicted pedophile sex party buddy, also has several HSBC accounts in Geneva, and also donated to Clinton.

Other HSBC Geneva clients who donated $1m or more to the Clinton foundation include ex-Formula One racing driver Michael Schumacher, billionaire businessman Eli Broad, and the French hedge-fund manager Arpad Busson.

And:

Another client of HSBC Geneva to donate to the Clinton foundation is Denise Rich, the ex-wife of the late billionaire and commodities trader Marc Rich, who fled to Switzerland in 1983 after being indicted by US authorities for tax evasion, fraud and racketeering. Mark Rich was was controversially granted a presidential pardon by Bill Clinton just hours before the former president left office in 2001.
Denise Rich contributed as much as $500,000 to the Clinton foundation. Now 70, she is reported to have recently renounced her US citizenship, becoming tax-resident in Austria. She did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

The biggest donor, who may have donated more than $50 million to Clinton (we don't know for sure), is a Canadian mining magnate named Frank Giustra.

Per Wikipedia, in between forming Lionsgate Entertainment, which then distributed Michael Moore's Farenheit 9/11, Giustra seems to get a certain amount of economic benefit from his sponsorship of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign:

Mr. Giustra became close with former US President Bill Clinton during fundraising efforts for tsunami relief in 2004. Giustra is a member of the board of trustees of the Clinton Foundation. Giustra provided his corporate jet for Clinton's fundraising campaign in Africa. The two play the card game Oh Hell during flights.
In September 2005, Giustra flew Clinton to Kazakhstan as part of a three-country philanthropic tour. Clinton praised the Kazakh autocrat for "this statement you have made about opening up the social and political life [of Kazakhstan]". Within two days of the former President's meeting with Kazakhstan’s president Nursultan Nazarbayev, Giustra's fledgling uranium company signed preliminary agreements giving it the right to buy into three uranium projects controlled by the state-owned uranium agency, Kazatomprom. "The monster deal stunned the mining industry, turning an unknown shell company into one of the world’s largest uranium producers."[14][15]
In 2006, in the months after Mr. Clinton's visit helped secure Giustra's company the right to mine uranium in Kazakhstan, Mr. Giustra donated $31.3 million to the Clinton Foundation.[14] This figure is at variance with the one released by the William J. Clinton Foundation (on the 18 December 200, as part of an arrangement with President-elect Barack Obama. It reports Frank Giustra as giving between US$10–25 million.[16]

Posted by: Ace at 07:13 PM

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1 First?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at March 09, 2015 07:14 PM (GuwT9)

2 Still ready for Hillary!

Posted by: Woody Woodchipper at March 09, 2015 07:16 PM (UVfht)

3 Nothing to see here. Move along, proles.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 09, 2015 07:16 PM (u82oZ)

4 Quiet in here.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at March 09, 2015 07:17 PM (GuwT9)

5 Sleaze electorate= Sleaze leaders.

Posted by: redenzo at March 09, 2015 07:17 PM (WCnJW)

6 The Democrats are the party of the common man! I would never vote for a Rethuglican.

Posted by: FSA LIV at March 09, 2015 07:18 PM (sdi6R)

7 Back in the day, these people were guillotined or shot.

Posted by: Feh at March 09, 2015 07:18 PM (g/zj9)

8 We're f#cking on it!

Ooh, it's hillbilly Scott Walker, lets ask him about evolution instead.

Posted by: The Fucking Media at March 09, 2015 07:18 PM (i55o+)

9 Having a 'global charity' is the perfect way to launder money.

Posted by: wheatie at March 09, 2015 07:18 PM (7cGIw)

10 How much of this money is funneled to Democrat candidates?

Posted by: Jen the original at March 09, 2015 07:18 PM (9D7Ji)

11 Democrats are the party of the workin' man.

Posted by: LIV Union Goon at March 09, 2015 07:18 PM (GuwT9)

12 Maybe Hills chickens are coming home to roost...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 09, 2015 07:19 PM (Bn6aD)

13 event at Catherine the Great's Winter Palace. Photographs from the event in November 2005 show Bill Clinton, dressed as a Russian general,

Not too far off......

Posted by: rickb223 at March 09, 2015 07:19 PM (76/sn)

14 Heh, do tell?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 09, 2015 07:19 PM (vvS6Q)

15 You know, people have been trying to figure out what glass ceiling Hillary! has broken.

I'm going with active bribery of the US Secretary of State.

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us SMOD at March 09, 2015 07:19 PM (IrByp)

16 I'm beginning to wonder if Hillary isn't throwing the race deliberately. I mean, how many elementary mistakes can she make before we conclude it's on purpose?

Why? I dunno. Maybe to get back at Bill or Barack. Maybe she doesn't really want to be president, she just wants people to beg her to run.

Maybe she's just a psycho bitch.

Posted by: pep at March 09, 2015 07:19 PM (4nR9/)

17 This sort of stuff gets insta-downvoted on Reddit's politics board.

Posted by: Justfactualthings at March 09, 2015 07:20 PM (oCxXI)

18 Those rat bastards have more skeletons in their closets then then all the medical schools in all the third world island nations combined.

Your average American would be in prison for a thousandth of the stuff those people have pulled.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at March 09, 2015 07:20 PM (KbNXw)

19 Or all of the above.

Posted by: Feh at March 09, 2015 07:20 PM (g/zj9)

20 13
event at Catherine the Great's Winter Palace. Photographs from the event
in November 2005 show Bill Clinton, dressed as a Russian general,

Not too far off......

Posted by: rickb223

Rasputin would be more accurate.

Posted by: pep at March 09, 2015 07:20 PM (4nR9/)

21

This is so ugly.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 09, 2015 07:20 PM (IXrOn)

22 But flat broke you guys.

Posted by: Dang at March 09, 2015 07:21 PM (FRkJH)

23
Your average American would be in prison for a thousandth of the stuff those people have pulled.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at March 09,

And obamas are probably equally bad...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 09, 2015 07:21 PM (Bn6aD)

24 You know, people have been trying to figure out what glass ceiling Hillary! has broken.

The one at Planet Fitness.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 09, 2015 07:21 PM (76/sn)

25 Pep...Hillary is counting on the media to cover for her, just like they've always done for Bill and Barack.

She did all this, figuring that she would never be held accountable for it.

Posted by: wheatie at March 09, 2015 07:21 PM (7cGIw)

26 Seems legit.

Posted by: Bernie Madoff at March 09, 2015 07:21 PM (FRkJH)

27 event at Catherine the Great's Winter Palace

Had some wild times there.

Posted by: Catherine the Great's horse at March 09, 2015 07:22 PM (GuwT9)

28 This Jeffrey Epstein story hasn't even begun to unfold yet.

Nobody can explain where his money comes from.

Posted by: Cankle Rodham Clinton in Pajamas at March 09, 2015 07:22 PM (7ItnQ)

29 So Hillary has no interest in America per se.

Posted by: Feh at March 09, 2015 07:22 PM (g/zj9)

30 Oh, sure, you'll make a big deal about this but you still try to cover up MITT ROMNEY'S DOG!!!!!!

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 09, 2015 07:22 PM (MMC8r)

31 Remember when people used to go to jail for stuff life this? Good times.

Well, they say the White House is like a fancy prison... so there's that.

Posted by: Damiano at March 09, 2015 07:22 PM (AEQXb)

32 She did all this, figuring that she would never be held accountable for it.

Posted by: wheatie

Could be, but the press liked Bill and Barack. Nobody likes Hillary.

Posted by: pep at March 09, 2015 07:22 PM (4nR9/)

33 Bill Clinton, dressed as a Russian general, partying with other VIP guests such as Elizabeth Hurley. Entertainment was provided by Tina Turner and Elton John.

And Ukrainian cooters stuffed with the finest caviar.

Posted by: wooga at March 09, 2015 07:23 PM (bFJiu)

34 Pep...Hillary is counting on the media to cover for her, just like they've always done for Bill and Barack.

A) It's not 1995.

B) They don't really like her. They'll throw her over if they're allowed an alterative (just like in 200

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 09, 2015 07:23 PM (MMC8r)

35 And I thought those "make money from home" emails were a scam!

Sign me up!

Posted by: Dang at March 09, 2015 07:23 PM (FRkJH)

36 @33
Resisting urge to make crude fish smell joke........

Posted by: pep at March 09, 2015 07:23 PM (4nR9/)

37 Dang: it seems like the mainstream media has been just waiting to release these stories. Hillary is done.

Posted by: Jane at March 09, 2015 07:24 PM (rDidp)

38 hur-roh

Posted by: the talking dog at March 09, 2015 07:24 PM (JCdoo)

39 HSBC also has a very long history of being the terrorist bank of choice. And of illegally doing transactions for Iran

That's HSBC

Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 09, 2015 07:24 PM (zOTsN)

40 28 This Jeffrey Epstein story hasn't even begun to unfold yet.

Nobody can explain where his money comes from.

Lace wigs.

Posted by: wooga at March 09, 2015 07:24 PM (bFJiu)

41 Couldn't find this story anywhere in the "media" Their #1 story is that stupid racist Frat group...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 09, 2015 07:24 PM (Bn6aD)

42 What do you want from us? We're still sorting through Sarah Palin's email! One person at a time!

Posted by: MFM at March 09, 2015 07:24 PM (AEQXb)

43 That's why I only donate to the Human Fund. Money For People.

Posted by: george costanza at March 09, 2015 07:25 PM (JCdoo)

44 37
Dang: it seems like the mainstream media has been just waiting to release these stories. Hillary is done.

Posted by: Jane

I think they view this as a twofer.
1) Rehabilitate their image as craven prostitutes for the left.
2) Prevent a sure loser from getting the nom. Substitute E. Warren. (IMO, another sure loser)

Posted by: pep at March 09, 2015 07:25 PM (4nR9/)

45 Is this the same bank that Loretta Lynch was investigating correct?

Posted by: Perdogg at March 09, 2015 07:25 PM (1EIax)

46 BAD ASS!!!

Posted by: Glenn "Fedora" Thrush at March 09, 2015 07:26 PM (2jQGY)

47 Their #1 story is that stupid racist Frat group...

It's an easy 'Emmanuel Goldstein of the Moment' story. Click bait, but meaningless.

Hillary is something they're trying to give time to blow over.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 09, 2015 07:26 PM (MMC8r)

48 I told you, Ace, never ask me about Frank Giustra's business.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 09, 2015 07:26 PM (JCdoo)

49 6 BAD ASS!!!

Did you mean Big Ass?

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 09, 2015 07:26 PM (Bn6aD)

50 And Ukrainian cooters stuffed with the finest caviar.

And asses full of champagne.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 09, 2015 07:27 PM (76/sn)

51 This is kind of a lede bury again,

but THEY TAILORED COSTUMES FROM A FUCKING MUSEUM???

What in the actual fuck is that. Can I just go borrow a vest that Ben Franklin wore and have a tailor let it out for my fat fuck big wig contributor??

I mean seriously, what in the actual fuck.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 09, 2015 07:28 PM (q5APL)

52 Caring arranged for 18th century Russian costumes, borrowed from the Hermitage Museum, to be tailor-fitted for each guest at the event at Catherine the Great's Winter Palace. Photographs from the event in November 2005 show Bill Clinton, dressed as a Russian general, partying with other VIP guests such as Elizabeth Hurley.

Yep. Man. Of. The. People.

And poor Hillary was out that night trying to get money to pay for her mortgages with a cardboard sign, WILL DESTROY POLITICAL RIVALS FOR FOOD.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 09, 2015 07:29 PM (8ZskC)

53 Hillary is something they're trying to give time to blow

Never going to happen.

Posted by: Bill C. at March 09, 2015 07:30 PM (bFJiu)

54 Now we're covering local news stories out of Europe?

Posted by: Garrett at March 09, 2015 07:30 PM (FoPsr)

55 That costume thing is revolting.

Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 09, 2015 07:30 PM (zOTsN)

56 WHY DIDN'T YOU COME TO ME LIKE A FUCKING MAN AND TELL ME NOT TO DRESS UP LIKE A 18TH CENTURY RUSSIAN NOBLEMAN???????

Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 09, 2015 07:30 PM (8ZskC)

57 And obamas are probably equally bad...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 09, 2015 07:21 PM (Bn6aD)

Give em time, They haven't been at it as long.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at March 09, 2015 07:31 PM (KbNXw)

58 THEY TAILORED COSTUMES FROM A FUCKING MUSEUM???
Posted by: prescient11

In Russia, museum visit you.

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at March 09, 2015 07:31 PM (GuwT9)

59 And guess who one of Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers is? Yep, Ken Starr.

It's all rigged.

Moar Kabuki Theater.

Posted by: Cankle Rodham Clinton in Pajamas at March 09, 2015 07:31 PM (7ItnQ)

60 Back in the day, these people were guillotined or shot.
Posted by: Feh at March 09, 2015 07:18 PM (g/zj9)

Tarred and feathered.

Posted by: Sons of Liberty at March 09, 2015 07:31 PM (yRwC8)

61 Gawd, these people are scummy.
They just couldn't be honest if they wanted to. Greedy, greedy people who can never get enough money or power.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 09, 2015 07:32 PM (bdqzU)

62 Ok I've been away too long. I keep trying to push like buttons on these comments

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at March 09, 2015 07:32 PM (KbNXw)

63 Back in the day, these people were guillotined or shot.
Posted by: Feh at March 09, 2015 07:18 PM (g/zj9)

Tarred and feathered.
Posted by: Sons of Liberty

Dragged behind a motorcycle over rough road.

Posted by: Sons of Anarchy at March 09, 2015 07:33 PM (GuwT9)

64 We have nothing to fear with Hillary Clinton in charge of the State Department

Posted by: John McCain at March 09, 2015 07:33 PM (LoIJo)

65 How much money would it take to hump that stuffed camel at the Field Museum?

I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: Andrew Mendoza, Horse Fucker at March 09, 2015 07:33 PM (8ZskC)

66 All of the old Mustache Pete's must be turning in their graves for a piece of the action these damn clintons have their fingers in.

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 07:33 PM (ahBY0)

67 I think they view this as a twofer.
1) Rehabilitate their image as craven prostitutes for the left.
2) Prevent a sure loser from getting the nom. Substitute E. Warren. (IMO, another sure loser)

Posted by: pep at March 09, 2015 07:25 PM (4nR9/)
Don't misunderestimate the GOP DC Establishment cabal!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 09, 2015 07:33 PM (ftVQq)

68 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet

Good to see you!

Where's the book?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 09, 2015 07:33 PM (UVfht)

69 >>>Bill Clinton, dressed as a Russian general<<<

Can you believe that? I mean that's so ridiculous and beneath me.

(I should have been a czar! Well... soon enough. Hillary 2016, y'all!)

Posted by: The Clenis at March 09, 2015 07:33 PM (c+Y7q)

70 " Maybe Hills chickens are coming home to roost..."
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 09, 2015 07:19 PM (Bn6aD)
____________

Or, Hills chickens could be coming home to take a massive wet sh*t.

Posted by: Bad Dog Puppy Treats at March 09, 2015 07:35 PM (KuLt+)

71 Hillary is being taken down, there's no question about it. The only question is who's behind it?

Actually, there's another question....where's the popcorn?

Posted by: Lauren at March 09, 2015 07:35 PM (MYCIw)

72 When this story broke here a week or two ago someone (I forget who) made a great point about this money. It's crooked money to start with and giving it the Clinton Foundation doesn't magically make it clean and legal. If a corporation or a person accepted this money it would be money laundering. So it is with the Clinton's.

Posted by: MTF at March 09, 2015 07:35 PM (FCsIb)

73 Hillary is basically...unlikeable.

The media can't admit that they just don't like her.
They have to have a 'reason' to turn thumbs down on her.

We got sort of a clue, back when that 'Planet Hillary' thing came out.
Then, they all couldn't help but laugh at the 'Hillary's Walker' thing.

But the media can't come out and say "I don't like that bitch".
They're going to have to have something else to use as a way to turn away from her.

Posted by: wheatie at March 09, 2015 07:35 PM (7cGIw)

74 Flyin all round the world on private jets, bangin underage hookers, getting paid big money for it, and nobody lays a finger on me! Y'all wish ya had mah life!

Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton, 42nd President of the United States at March 09, 2015 07:36 PM (i0wGQ)

75 Just don't ask me about the astroturf in the Gulfstream V.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 09, 2015 07:37 PM (8ZskC)

76 We got sort of a clue, back when that 'Planet Hillary' thing came out.
Posted by: wheat

That Planet Hillary got a Women's locker room?

Posted by: perv in drag at March 09, 2015 07:37 PM (GuwT9)

77 67 I think they view this as a twofer.
1) Rehabilitate their image as craven prostitutes for the left.
2) Prevent a sure loser from getting the nom. Substitute E. Warren. (IMO, another sure loser)

Posted by: pep at March 09, 2015 07:25 PM (4nR9/)

Don't misunderestimate the GOP DC Establishment cabal!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 09, 2015 07:33 PM (ftVQq)

Yeah, I can't envision any scenario where a radical leftist could be elected President.

Posted by: rickl at March 09, 2015 07:38 PM (sdi6R)

78 >>Y'all wish ya had mah life!

Yep, and Bill's life wouldn't change if Hillary were in the WH.
Doubt he could be grounded after 15 years of living separately from Hillary.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 09, 2015 07:39 PM (bdqzU)

79 i'm pretty sure Michael Schumacher has no idea where his money is going right now.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 07:39 PM (ucDmr)

80 Isn't this really just the story of Obama to be?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 09, 2015 07:39 PM (XvsbD)

81 These buffoons sell themselves out for costume parties and donations.

Imagine the flexibility I can get out of Hillary with what's in these emails.

Posted by: Vlad Putin with Hilldabeast's hacked emails at March 09, 2015 07:39 PM (c+Y7q)

82 59 And guess who one of Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers is? Yep, Ken Starr.
=======
The Fuq? is that true?

Posted by: Ned Flanders at March 09, 2015 07:39 PM (X3xYu)

83 Spent a fair amount of time in the Winter Palace. Back when, if possible, Soviet reality was *less* degraded (or in a different way) than current Russian reality. At least it was fairly inconceivable that Hermitage artifacts would be altered and given for private use.

The corruption, degradation, arrogance, and crudity of these people is sickening. That they can have any place in American public life?

Wow.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 09, 2015 07:40 PM (afQnV)

84 This email business is all very interesting but, really, what we want to know is whether Scott Walker also thinks prisoners who travel the Hershey Highway are become gay?

Posted by: NBC Producers at March 09, 2015 07:40 PM (4HYng)

85 Where's the book?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 09, 2015 07:33 PM (UVfht)

Hi, goes to the publisher on thursday. It's been an adventure. I need to write a book about writing this book. It's been a fuck story. But, I hope everybody likes it. If you want to keep up with my writing adventures, I have a Facebook page I keep up to date. It's Authorjackjuly I answer everybody, I have fans, but not that many. It's nice to be here with you.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at March 09, 2015 07:40 PM (KbNXw)

86 Google:

ken starr + jeffrey epstein

Posted by: Cankle Rodham Clinton in Pajamas at March 09, 2015 07:41 PM (7ItnQ)

87 Hillary is being taken down, there's no question about it. The only question is who's behind it?

Actually, there's another question....where's the popcorn?
_____________________

Problem is, the people taking her down (probably the Obama/Jarrett cabal) are just as crooked as the Clintons, and they're only taking her down so that they can choose an even more crooked replacement.

Our entire f*cking federal government is nothing but a massive criminal enterprise.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 09, 2015 07:41 PM (lmdHn)

88 Finish her !

Posted by: Quan chi at March 09, 2015 07:41 PM (XYKz+)

89 Ok I've been away too long. I keep trying to push like buttons on these comments

Wait until you go from a touch screen phone to a laptop and wonder why stuff doesn't work when you tap the screen.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 09, 2015 07:41 PM (76/sn)

90 As they say in Arkansas, 'Money talks, bullshite walks'. And in the case of the clitons, it's both.

Posted by: Eromero at March 09, 2015 07:41 PM (go5uR)

91 72...If a corporation or a person accepted this money it would be money laundering. So it is with the Clinton's.

Oh hell yeah, it's money laundering.

The Clintons have gotten away with money laundering before:
They used the Rose Law Firm to launder illegal donations.
They used bogus real estate deals and a small bank in AR...to launder illegal donations. [Whitewater]

But when they got in the WH, they went global with their money laundering.
And having a 'global foundation' is the perfect way to do it.

Posted by: wheatie at March 09, 2015 07:42 PM (7cGIw)

92 Wait until you go from a touch screen phone to a laptop and wonder why stuff doesn't work when you tap the screen.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 09, 2015 07:41 PM (76/sn)

IKR?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at March 09, 2015 07:42 PM (KbNXw)

93 Re. the AP Test story in the sidebar, besides misspelling Sans Culottes as "Sams" they also misspelled Girondists (with an E); and misspelled Emigre/Emigres in the feminine with an extraneous E. (Imagine there is an accent ague on those last Es in Emigre/Emigres!) So beside printing a b.s. analogy they have shitty proofreaders.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 09, 2015 07:43 PM (JCdoo)

94 All that sweet sweet money is why both parties don't want to rock the boat.

Posted by: steevy at March 09, 2015 07:43 PM (KETbL)

95 Isn't this really just the story of Obama to be?
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Except instead of underage prostitutes with Jeff Epstein, it'll be hanging out in a hollywood hot tube with Brian Singer and some young men who REALLY want to break into showbiz.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at March 09, 2015 07:43 PM (GuwT9)

96 So if I don't run, can I still keep the money? Like a nice parting gift.

Posted by: Hillary! at March 09, 2015 07:44 PM (i0wGQ)

97 Ken Starr managed the Beatles?

Posted by: andycanuck at March 09, 2015 07:44 PM (JCdoo)

98 D@mmit! We knew she was a flawed candidate. Don't destroy her until she gets the nomination.

The best we can hope for now is to let her tarnish the Dems' brand. But that would require the Party of Stupid to repeat the word "Democrat" at every mention of scandal.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at March 09, 2015 07:45 PM (X/+QT)

99 It amazes me that all these thugs will pay big bucks for celebs to attend their parties and the celebs will jump at the chance.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 09, 2015 07:45 PM (iQIUe)

100 This seems like big news but I have been donating millions to George W. Bush´s charity to gain access to underage prostitues, political access and lucrative mining deals for the last six years. Doesn´t everybody?

Wait, that wasn´t me. If it was I wouldn´t be eating Top Ramen noodles thrice weekly, with a visit to the Golden Corral buffet when I go for a fortnightly splurge.

Ah, the good life.

Posted by: Minuteman at March 09, 2015 07:45 PM (CKXqq)

101 All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's Reproductive Health Choice
Clinic think President Obama should tell Russia to knock it off because all this distrust and show of weakness is now gone with Bush. He should tell that Putin Guy that we are now a peaceful country not trying to start illegal wars like Bush did against innocent people for no reason at all. Let's go back to the days when the US and Russia were friends (The Clinton Years) and stop this nonsense sparked by Bush and Chainey. Bush lied to Putin and now Presdent Oblama must fix this problem too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at March 09, 2015 07:45 PM (Sd++4)

102 Woahlyfukinshit them's a lotta apples goin' inna Clinton basket. I wanna some uranium projects myself.

I knows da Clintons help dem wit billions in hand, so how much dem Haiti po'boys git afta dat big 'ol 'caine? Dose Clintons be such caring peeps I knows dey done em right so how much dey git?

Posted by: JonaDanson@AppleQuestNutsuotiaterQuietly at March 09, 2015 07:46 PM (g1MTt)

103 Is this the same bank that Loretta Lynch was investigating correct?

Posted by: Perdogg at March 09, 2015 07:25 PM (1EIax)

Yep. And the RINOs are just itchin' to confirm her and get a taste of that sweet sweet payola themselves.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 09, 2015 07:46 PM (gBzO7)

104 Ace shd make it known that he is open to being bribed and is more than willing to have a oligarch sugar daddy, right Ace?

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 09, 2015 07:47 PM (iQIUe)

105
This right wing conspiracy to damage Hillary will never stop until we win all elections after legalizing our new 25 million democrat voters who crossed the border for safety, security, and a fat government check paid for by conservatives stooges.

Posted by: James Carville at March 09, 2015 07:47 PM (P330y)

106 Hi, goes to the publisher on thursday.

One of the few books I've been waiting for.

BTW, a few people have been asking "Whatever happened to?" about you on the ONT lately, so your fan base isn't confined to facebook.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 09, 2015 07:48 PM (UVfht)

107 I'm shocked, wait, no I'm not.

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at March 09, 2015 07:48 PM (74McK)

108 Lionsgate?
I have some DVDs with a Lionsgate splash credit. Damn

Look, if some conservatives wanted to do their own long march through the institutions, what do you think would happen if you tried to buy a cable channel, set up a movie production company, or try to get an independent movie distributed?

Probably the same thing going on in SciFi books right now. If you don't know the right people, if you don't treat the story in the right way, if you don't speak the right political point of view, you'll never get passed the gatekeepers.

Worse case, If you are critical of Obama, you go to prison.

Posted by: G. Rodger Aimes at March 09, 2015 07:49 PM (JQycc)

109 "D@mmit! We knew she was a flawed candidate. Don't destroy her until she gets the nomination."

She's the best of the Dem crop. The rest are total disasters. Fcuk it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 09, 2015 07:49 PM (vvS6Q)

110 I have this mental image of feverish strategy sessions with ideas being shot down as fast as they're floated; anger and recrimination, heavy sighs and much eye rolling, pizza gease congealing on box lids and while it whirls all around her ... Hillary ... nose down .... absorbed in her Blackberry .... playing Candy Crush and watching grandkid videos.

Posted by: Redolent at March 09, 2015 07:50 PM (4HYng)

111 So if I don't run, can I still keep the money? Like a nice parting gift.

I actually think that's been the calculation all along.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 09, 2015 07:50 PM (MMC8r)

112 Too bad this wasn't that Vatican Bank. Because of the unwanted attention, you'd find Cankles hanging off the 14th Bridge by now.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 09, 2015 07:51 PM (i0wGQ)

113 >>>The best we can hope for now is to let her tarnish the Dems' brand. But that would require the Party of Stupid to repeat the word "Democrat" at every mention of scandal

Republicans do their own versions of the same deranged crap

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 09, 2015 07:51 PM (Cq0oW)

114 Bill Clinton, dressed as a Russian general,

Finally wearing his KGB uniform in public.

Posted by: DaveA at March 09, 2015 07:52 PM (DL2i+)

115 The Clintons need a new play book. Now they have trotted out James Carnival

Posted by: Criminal Clown Posse at March 09, 2015 07:52 PM (XYKz+)

116 You have to admit, for some backward ass hill-billies, the clintons went big. Foreign mining contracts in at least 2 hemispheres? that's getting into bond-vilan territory....

what are they building???

Posted by: JDub (was BunkerintheBurbs) at March 09, 2015 07:52 PM (X3xYu)

117 My money is still on one of the Castro brothers getting the nod. Probably the one who's in congress right now, but who the hell can keep them straight?

They have been groomed just like Obama was and they hit the demographic check marks that the Dems are going for right now.

Posted by: Lauren at March 09, 2015 07:52 PM (MYCIw)

118 Bonanno, Columbo, Gambino, Genovese, Lucchese and Clinton in New York. Capone and Obama in Chicago. Bugsy Siegal and Harry "The Weasel" Reid in Vegas. Is there a writer in the house?

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 07:53 PM (ahBY0)

119 what are they building???

Bill's rape defense fund?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 09, 2015 07:54 PM (UVfht)

120 So if Hillary doesn't run she has the upper hand withholding her campaign money. For some of her doners to complain would be like a dope dealer calling the cops on a crack whore for steeling their money...

Posted by: Criminal Clown Posse at March 09, 2015 07:55 PM (XYKz+)

121 The guillotine would be a nice European import.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 09, 2015 07:56 PM (QqWOP)

122 Rotted manure is what DC is, only not as useful.

Posted by: Feh at March 09, 2015 07:59 PM (g/zj9)

123 "The guillotine would be a nice European import."

I think Renault tried that in the late 70's. It apparently couldn't cut it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 09, 2015 08:00 PM (vvS6Q)

124 As there any other former president who has behaved in as scummy and money grubbing way as Bill Clinton? Seriously, as an ex president he'll always have money. Crips, he can make bank by just agreeing to periodically go on Sunday talk shows. He doesn't have to prostitute himself, he wants to prostitute himself.

Posted by: Dr. McCoy at March 09, 2015 08:00 PM (F192H)

125 >>>Seven Wealthy Men Keeping Their Money at the Scandal-Plagued HSBC
Have Donated/Bribed $81 Million to Hillary Clinton's Bribery Storefront<<<

But, but, I only got 77 cents on the dollar in bribes as opposed to my male counterpart (Bill).

Posted by: Cankles Rodham Clinton at March 09, 2015 08:02 PM (c+Y7q)

126 Thank god we didn't elect rich, out of touch Romney....

Posted by: Dr. McCoy at March 09, 2015 08:03 PM (F192H)

127 125
But, but, I only got 77 cents on the dollar in bribes as opposed to my male counterpart (Bill).

Posted by: Cankles Rodham Clinton at March 09, 2015 08:02 PM (c+Y7q)

Thread winner.

Posted by: rickl at March 09, 2015 08:04 PM (sdi6R)

128 "Another Clinton foundation donor who had a HSBC account in the tax haven is Jeffrey Epstein, the hedge fund manager and convicted sex offender who once flew the former president on his private jet for charity events in Africa."

Bill Clinton has been aboard Epstein's private jet several more times than just "once", and for things a lot hinkier than "charity events".

There was no scheduled commercial or charter air service to Epstein's private island filled with underage girls. Epstein's private plane was how guests got there.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 09, 2015 08:04 PM (noWW6)

129 Why do the Democrats love the Clintons?

It really shows me it's an evil Party, the only time you hear liberals bash the Clintons is because they aren't liberal enough, it's never about their ethics.

Starting to think we might really like Hillary as the Dem nominee.

Posted by: Kal at March 09, 2015 08:05 PM (RNPlT)

130 He doesn't have to prostitute himself, he wants to prostitute himself.

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Nah, he just wants prostitutes.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 09, 2015 08:07 PM (VAsIq)

131 "All that sweet sweet money is why both parties don't want to rock the boat."

You have to figure that there are a few prominent Republicans who also enjoyed their stay at Epstein Island and who are now thinking nervously, "Was that one annoying little noise a camera shutter? Oh crap. I thought it was a cricket in the curtains."

Posted by: torquewrench at March 09, 2015 08:08 PM (noWW6)

132 Did you h8ters know that Scott Walker once got a bad grade in school?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 09, 2015 08:08 PM (VAsIq)

133 "Epstein's private plane was how guests got there."

Man, how a feller get him one of them private jets and islands? Sounds all right.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 09, 2015 08:09 PM (vvS6Q)

134 It really shows me it's an evil Party, the only time you hear liberals bash the Clintons is because they aren't liberal enough, it's never about their ethics.
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Ethics: you keep on using this word. I do not know it means.

Posted by: Liberal at March 09, 2015 08:09 PM (VAsIq)

135 "I thought it was a cricket in the curtains"

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Is that a new underage hooker sex move?

Posted by: Pederast Bill Clinton at March 09, 2015 08:10 PM (VAsIq)

136 131 And for them it's extra bad because "hypocrisy!".

Posted by: steevy at March 09, 2015 08:10 PM (KETbL)

137 So are the frat boys fro Sigma Alpha Epsilon at OU going to join Kappa Kappa Kappa now that their frat has been closed down?

Posted by: Minuteman at March 09, 2015 08:11 PM (CKXqq)

138 @129 Why do the Democrats love the Clintons?
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I think it's for two reasons.

1.) Bill's a charmer. He might be a snake oil salesman, but he knows how to charm people. And he's willing to do so when he thinks it might help.
2.) Bill beat Reagan's successor. The detested Reagan was a juggernaut, and pulled off a 49 state landslide (and it will be a very long time before that occurs again - if it ever does). His Vice President, Bush 41, rode into office largely as a result of being connected to Reagan. And Clinton beat him in 1992. I think he gets a lot of respect for that.

Posted by: junior at March 09, 2015 08:12 PM (UWFpX)

139 Liberals have no ethics.

They are, to a man, consequentialists.

Posted by: Garrett at March 09, 2015 08:12 PM (hytw1)

140 "Bonanno, Columbo, Gambino, Genovese, Lucchese and Clinton in New York."

Pretty clear that the Clintons' amicable ties to organized crime go back much earlier than their stint in NY.

Mena Airport.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 09, 2015 08:12 PM (noWW6)

141 So are the frat boys fro Sigma Alpha Epsilon at OU going to join Kappa Kappa Kappa?

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My life's gone down the Krappa Krappa Krappa.

Posted by: Stupid, Moronic, Idiotic Frat Boy at March 09, 2015 08:12 PM (VAsIq)

142 Is m.Schumacher still a thing? I'd never heard anything about his state so thought it must have been pretty much full veggie.

Posted by: Roscoe at March 09, 2015 08:13 PM (LYVbX)

143 Scandal-Plagued HSBC

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lol HSBC? What's that? Hot...student...buys...condoms? lol

Posted by: LIV at March 09, 2015 08:14 PM (VAsIq)

144 When it comes to funds...

Its easier to please a few big donors... rich people..

Than the plebes... who only give campaigns small amounts... and don't have private jets and Hooker Islands...

Which is why we have the Crony Crapitalistic mess we currently have...

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 09, 2015 08:14 PM (qh617)

145 Its easier to please a few big donors...

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It's easiest--and also the hardest--to please just one man.

Posted by: Reggie at March 09, 2015 08:15 PM (VAsIq)

146 Conservatives honestly do not tolerate unethical behavior, I don't think Clinton should have been removed from office over the Lewinsky affair, but I know if that was a Republican President, he would have been an shamed man in exile, not some celebrated politician.

Everyone thinks the Clintons are bulletproof, but I honestly think 90% of it was purely because the economy was roaring. Hillary is not going to have some booming economy to take credit for.

Posted by: Kal at March 09, 2015 08:16 PM (RNPlT)

147 Also in regards to the Clintons and organized crime, one thing we'll probably never be able to figure out is whether 1990s Clinton bribe conduits John Huang, Maria Hsia, Charlie Trie, et al were:

(a) influence-buying freebooters,

(b) tong or triad members,

(c) PRC intelligence operatives or intelligence assets.

Or, various combinations thereof. The lines aren't bright between these categories at times.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 09, 2015 08:16 PM (noWW6)

148 I don't think Clinton should have been removed from office over the Lewinsky affair

What about the perjury?

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 09, 2015 08:17 PM (QqWOP)

149 I don't think Clinton should have been removed from office over the Lewinsky affair

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Lewinsky was a side-show. The impeachment was about much, much more, but Clinton convinced America it was just about sex.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 09, 2015 08:17 PM (VAsIq)

150 144 When it comes to funds...

Its easier to please a few big donors... rich people..

Than the plebes... who only give campaigns small amounts... and don't have private jets and Hooker Islands...

Which is why we have the Crony Crapitalistic mess we currently have...
Posted by: BB Wolf at March 09, 2015 08:14 PM (qh617)

I'm not one to play class warfare, and I'm not going to join OWS and start shitting on cop cars, but damn if we aren't living in a near-plutocracy.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 09, 2015 08:17 PM (mx5oN)

151 I'm not one to play class warfare, and I'm not going to join OWS and start shitting on cop cars, but damn if we aren't living in a near-plutocracy.

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But can we start shitting on politicians' cars?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 09, 2015 08:18 PM (VAsIq)

152 It's just business, fuhgeddaboudit.

Posted by: Joseph "Joey Mook" D'Amico at March 09, 2015 08:18 PM (ahBY0)

153 Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 09, 2015 08:18 PM (VAsIq)

154 We never thought zero would get elected either. At this point nothing would surprise me.

Posted by: freaked at March 09, 2015 08:18 PM (JdEZJ)

155 151 I'm not one to play class warfare, and I'm not going to join OWS and start shitting on cop cars, but damn if we aren't living in a near-plutocracy.

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But can we start shitting on politicians' cars?
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 09, 2015 08:18 PM (VAsIq)

As far as I'm concerned, they're fair game.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 09, 2015 08:18 PM (mx5oN)

156 Alternate Headline:

Seven White, Heterosexual, Wealthy Men Who "Earned" Their Money On The Backs of the Working Poor Keeping Their Money at the Scandal-Plagued HSBC Have Donated/Bribed $81 Million to Hillary Clinton's Bribery Storefront

Posted by: Sharkman at March 09, 2015 08:19 PM (72D6h)

157 Bill Clinton owes his presidency to Ross Perot. I hope Perot burns in hell.

Posted by: Null at March 09, 2015 08:20 PM (xjpRj)

158 157 Bill Clinton owes his presidency to Ross Perot. I hope Perot burns in hell.
Posted by: Null at March 09, 2015 08:20 PM (xjpRj)

Preferably the special hell reserved for child molesters and people who talk in the movie theater.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 09, 2015 08:21 PM (mx5oN)

159 lol HSBC? What's that? Hot...student...buys...condoms? lol

Home Shopping Buyers Club

Posted by: wooga at March 09, 2015 08:21 PM (bFJiu)

160 How much did Putin donate for the rest button? Chicoms definitely got their money's worth.

Posted by: ryukyu at March 09, 2015 08:21 PM (C6XFd)

161 Than the plebes... who only give campaigns small amounts... and don't have private jets and Hooker Islands...

Theoretically a MoronPAC could aggregate 100$ from a lot of Morons and dole/withold at whim a noticeable $/day to some GOPe. More likely to work than trying to vote D and get noticed. Less likely to work than just shootinem and less likely to gotojail over.

Posted by: DaveA at March 09, 2015 08:21 PM (DL2i+)

162 Rest button that is...

Posted by: ryukyu at March 09, 2015 08:21 PM (C6XFd)

163 The depressing part of all of this?
89% of the American population have at best, only a vestigial awareness that something involving Hillary, and e-mails is going on right now.

And better then 93% of the democratic side of the 89% that are aware....
don't give a fcuk.

Hillary could be filmed snipping the spinal cord of a viable infant emerging from the womb, with her teeth, and it would not change their leanings one iota.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 09, 2015 08:22 PM (hzrlb)

164 I just resigned my position as a cook county election judge. I told them it was because I no longer believe the the electoral process is capable of protecting Americans from the democrat party and their camp followers in DC and on Wall Street. I plan to change my party affiliation to independent tomorrow.

This isn't really relevant to the current discussion, but it's been a long time coming and I thought I'd let you all know.

This is more about the cave on immigration and McConnell's no shutdown at any cost comments yesterday, and a long train of, well, you know.

Enough. Just, enough.

Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2015 08:22 PM (A6vWB)

165 "... if that was a Republican President, he would have been an shamed man in exile, not some celebrated politician."

Anyone here seriously think that _Newsweek_ would have had a salacious Presidential adultery story in the bag, and then would have turned round and tried to spike it, if the President in question hadn't been a Democrat?

::: crickets :::

"Everyone thinks the Clintons are bulletproof, but I honestly think 90% of it was purely because the economy was roaring."

A better economy than this one got G.H.W. Bush tossed out on his ear.

"Hillary is not going to have some booming economy to take credit for."

I suspect that's why she accepted a posting at State. She has plausible deniability for any of the domestic policy failures of Obama. Not in the loop. Out of the country. Forty billion light years worth of air miles.

Her challenge on economic matters, as with everything related to Obama, is to be able to convey the message, "I'll fix everything this dope did wrong on the economy in the last eight years," without either losing the primary or the general due to AfAm voters getting huffy about her dissing their hero.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 09, 2015 08:23 PM (noWW6)

166 Hillary could be filmed snipping the spinal cord of a viable infant emerging from the womb, with her teeth, and it would not change their leanings one iota.

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On the contrary, dear boy, it would make us love her all the more.

Posted by: Leftist at March 09, 2015 08:23 PM (VAsIq)

167 Crony Crapitalistic

nice

I'm not a fan of the crony capitalism phrase. I always substitute "Not Stealing" for Capitalism.

Posted by: DaveA at March 09, 2015 08:24 PM (DL2i+)

168 H illary's
S hady
B anking
C ronies

Posted by: HSBC's Swiss bank at March 09, 2015 08:25 PM (c+Y7q)

169 OT: Star Wars is officially going lesbian in Star Wars VII:

http://tinyurl.com/oxkyxsd

Posted by: Reggie Love at March 09, 2015 08:25 PM (0Ew3K)

170 /off body-man sock

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 09, 2015 08:25 PM (0Ew3K)

171 Psst. Did you hear why the Clintons need all that money? Antibiotic-resistant STDs are expensive to control.

Posted by: Rumor Starter at March 09, 2015 08:26 PM (VAsIq)

172 "Laws are spider-webs, which catch the little flies, but cannot hold the big ones."
-Anacharsis 589 BC

Posted by: What a Bubba at March 09, 2015 08:27 PM (7wyDO)

173 She said she was overweight and a little bit of a hoarder. She's a little bit of a hoarder like Scrooge McDuck and his gold.

Posted by: no good deed at March 09, 2015 08:28 PM (ZKGnj)

174 149
I don't think Clinton should have been removed from office over the Lewinsky affair

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Lewinsky was a side-show. The impeachment was about much, much more, but Clinton convinced America it was just about sex.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson

I guess I should qualify and say I don't think Republicans should have impeached him, just a dumb move politically that backfired.

I think perjury is a big deal, but we've never removed a President EVER and someone being removed because they gave false testimony in a sexual harrassment lawsuit about a sexual affair? It's pretty small pickings. Sort of like sending Al Capone to Alcatraz over taxes.

Posted by: Kal at March 09, 2015 08:30 PM (RNPlT)

175 "I plan to change my party affiliation to independent tomorrow."

Welcome to the party, pal.

Couldn't go quite so far as the Ewok and become a Democrat. Just not going to happen in this lifetime.

Maybe, maybe, such a switch might have been briefly possible in the 1980s. The leading Democratic personalities were a lot different then.

It would have been pretty hard to imagine stodgy old Walter Mondale sitting around having a candlelit dinner with a couple of cop-killing, bomb-building Weather Underground domestic terrorists. It would be tough to envision tiny technocrat Michael Dukakis jetting off to a private island full of underage sex slaves. He'd pass it up for a seminar on metric system compliance.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 09, 2015 08:31 PM (noWW6)

176 Also in regards to the Clintons and organized crime, one thing we'll
probably never be able to figure out is whether 1990s Clinton bribe
conduits John Huang, Maria Hsia, Charlie Trie, et al were:

The best way I can rationalize this in my own mind is just that, organized crime. Remember the hearings with Frank Costello? taking the fifth.

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 08:31 PM (ahBY0)

177 You know ... a smart, aggressive opposition party would beat this to death.

Unless they just want in on that sweet, sweet action.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 09, 2015 08:32 PM (9m68G)

178 The Clintons, to the their peril, are violating the first rule of law: "Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered"

Posted by: thechicagoway at March 09, 2015 08:32 PM (HTAfA)

179 OT: Star Wars is officially going lesbian in Star Wars VII:

I have to admit, on my top ten list of ways Disney could fuck up the franchise, I completely missed that one.

Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2015 08:33 PM (A6vWB)

180
169 OT: Star Wars is officially going lesbian in Star Wars VII:

http://tinyurl.com/oxkyxsd

Posted by: Reggie Love at March 09, 2015 08:25 PM (0Ew3K)

Wait.... C3PO wasn't gay????

and don't even get me started on Jar Jar...

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 09, 2015 08:33 PM (qh617)

181 Psst. Did you hear the groundskeeper Hillary was having an affair with? He's 18--now.

Posted by: Rumor Starter at March 09, 2015 08:33 PM (VAsIq)

182 The Clintons, to the their peril, are violating the first rule of law: "Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered"

And snitches get stitches?

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 08:34 PM (ahBY0)

183 179 OT: Star Wars is officially going lesbian in Star Wars VII:

I have to admit, on my top ten list of ways Disney could fuck up the franchise, I completely missed that one.

Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2015 08:33 PM (A6vWB)

Mighty big.... Light Saber you have there togs....

Posted by: Darth Fahbulous at March 09, 2015 08:34 PM (qh617)

184 our government is a crime syndicate. The only reason for RICO was the mob was moving in on ther shit. eliminate the competition. someone tell me how our government is different from the mob.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 08:34 PM (ucDmr)

185
the horny rapey dolphin episode of King Of The Hill is on now

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lambda Lambda Lambda at March 09, 2015 08:35 PM (CRukk)

186 Woo Hoo back in the saddle for a while anyway

Posted by: Dick Morris at March 09, 2015 08:35 PM (XYKz+)

187 Chavez the Hugo

Amen Sir.

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 08:35 PM (ahBY0)

188 It's important to not mention any of the scandals plaguing Hillary(!) in order to show the other side what fair play and decency mean.

Posted by: John Boehner at March 09, 2015 08:36 PM (VAsIq)

189 Pictures from the 2005 party in St. Petersburg.

http://tinyurl.com/la4pm7j

Posted by: Zombie Joe Stalin at March 09, 2015 08:36 PM (Mrl1e)

190 someone tell me how our government is different from the mob.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo

They don't have funny nicknames for each other in Congress?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 09, 2015 08:37 PM (XvsbD)

191 "someone being removed because they gave false testimony in a sexual harrassment lawsuit about a sexual affair?"

Someone once referred to Eric Holder as "the chief law enforcement officer of the United States," and I demurred, saying that in my view the President holds that role.

After all, the President outranks the AG by a country mile, and the President is specifically charged by the Constitution with enforcement of the laws as a central duty of executive office.

You can't have someone in that position, running the federal government and its law enforcement apparatus, proven to have perjured himself in front of a federal grand jury. Simple as that.

Joe Sixpack, civilian employee, thus perjures himself? Not comparable. Jane Workaday, low level government employee not in a law enforcement capacity, does so? Also not comparable.

Not to mention also Clinton arguing that a federal law on testimony in sexual harassment cases which _he personally had signed into law_ was inapplicable to his own person. A novel legal theory which his attorneys essayed before the SCOTUS on his behalf, losing 9 to 0.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 09, 2015 08:37 PM (noWW6)

192 Couldn't go quite so far as the Ewok and become a Democrat. Just not going to happen in this lifetime.

Me, neither, as I can't think of a problem I have with the gope that can't be expressed in a phrase ending "...just like the democrats."

Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2015 08:37 PM (A6vWB)

193 Sitting here watching "Nevada Smith." All in all, pound for pound, probably the best western ever made.

And I love John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 09, 2015 08:38 PM (vvS6Q)

194 Posted by: DaveA at March 09, 2015 08:21 PM (DL2i+)

A MoronPac could generate thousands... or tens of thousands...

But unless you are talking at least 7 figures, you won't even get an office visit... let alone a weekend of access...

Posted by: Darth Fahbulous at March 09, 2015 08:38 PM (qh617)

195 184: The Mafia has a sense of honor and faces competition?

Posted by: PaleRider at March 09, 2015 08:38 PM (dkExz)

196 Ace: "Duh."

I, for one, am genuinely surprised. I had no idea that Elizabeth Hurley was a VIP.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 09, 2015 08:38 PM (8TqNO)

197 Chewbacca was a transgender.

Posted by: steevy at March 09, 2015 08:39 PM (KETbL)

198 >>> OT: Star Wars is officially going lesbian in Star Wars VII

This enlightened progression of the book canon doesn't count if you kill her off. She dies, it is just another lesbian character killed off to satisfy the bloodlust of the cisgendered patriarchy. She needs to be the the hero, AND have a love interest, AND get a crown and parades in her honor, or it doesn't count.

You think I'm kidding, don't you...

Posted by: SJW Lesbian Loner Fangirl, but I repeat myself at March 09, 2015 08:39 PM (yRwC8)

199
182 The Clintons, to the their peril, are violating the first rule of law: "Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered"

And snitches get stitches?

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 08:34 PM (ahBY0)

And assholes get wiped (well in most cases)

Posted by: Sheryl Crow at March 09, 2015 08:39 PM (XYKz+)

200 193 You're yeller!You haven't got the guts!

Posted by: steevy at March 09, 2015 08:41 PM (KETbL)

201 someone tell me how our government is different from the mob.

In theory, the rules they don't follow are written down somewhere.

Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2015 08:41 PM (A6vWB)

202
You can't have someone in that position, running the federal government and its law enforcement apparatus, proven to have perjured himself in front of a federal grand jury. Simple as that.

Tried to explain this until I was blue in the face when that odious lethario was running roughshod. The LiVs preferred 'all about sex.'

Also, witness tampering for what he did with Betty Currie. But 'all about sex.'

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 09, 2015 08:41 PM (MMC8r)

203 "Sort of like sending Al Capone to Alcatraz over taxes."

It was what they could get him on. There was an unambiguous evidentiary record available for the court.

It was impossible to get any of the racketeering charges to stick without witnesses, and the witnesses were either in terrified silence or a more permanent form of silence.

Something to keep in mind when you hear people argue that "there are a lot of nonviolent offenders in prison thanks to the drug laws".

SOME of those offenders are nonviolent. Others are heavily violent types who couldn't be successfully convicted on a violent offense due to witness unavailability or intimidation. But convicting on, say, possession with intent doesn't require that much witness testimony. The physical evidence itself suffices. Res ipsa loquitur.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 09, 2015 08:42 PM (noWW6)

204 Monica owes her life to Linda Tripp, and I'll bet she still hasn't figured that out.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 09, 2015 08:42 PM (QqWOP)

205 190: That shouldn't be too hard. here's a few, Johnny"Slinkey"Boner.
Harry"Punchdrunk"Reid
Nancy"Slag"Pelosi
Mitch"Pussy" Oconnell

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 08:43 PM (ucDmr)

206 They don't have funny nicknames for each other in Congress?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 09, 2015 08:37 PM (XvsbD)

Who you call'in funny !

Posted by: Louie the spats wearing weasel faced goombah Alfrescioni at March 09, 2015 08:43 PM (XYKz+)

207 >>> Sitting here watching "Nevada Smith." All in all, pound for pound, probably the best western ever made.

The hell you say...

Posted by: The Searchers at March 09, 2015 08:44 PM (yRwC8)

208 Do I amuse you?

Posted by: Harry Reid at March 09, 2015 08:44 PM (QqWOP)

209 OT: Star Wars is officially going lesbian in Star Wars VII

Gratuitous posturing.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 09, 2015 08:45 PM (MMC8r)

210 Let them eat tossed salad.

Posted by: Ready for Hillary!!11!! at March 09, 2015 08:45 PM (Dwehj)

211 interesting. Pretty prominent tech blog. Not bought out. Just shutting down. They ran out of cash.

VentureBeat @VentureBeat 8m8 minutes ago
Tech news site GigaOm is closing its doors http://wp.me/p5hvhT-722l by @greeterdan

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 09, 2015 08:46 PM (ZPrif)

212 "The hell you say..."

Yeah, I know...

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 09, 2015 08:46 PM (vvS6Q)

213 208: As a matter of fact yes. you do look like a clown to me. nice shades blind baby.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 08:46 PM (ucDmr)

214 Someone once referred to Eric Holder as "the chief
law enforcement officer of the United States," and I demurred, saying
that in my view the President holds that role.

After all, the President outranks the AG by a country mile, and the
President is specifically charged by the Constitution with enforcement
of the laws as a central duty of executive office.

You can't have someone in that position, running the federal
government and its law enforcement apparatus, proven to have perjured
himself in front of a federal grand jury.

Posted by: torquewrench

I agree with some of that in the abstract, but politics doesn't work that way and I see no utility to fall on your own sword to make a point.

What Obama has done with say his Amnesty program or Fast and Furious ABSOLUTELY rises to the level of impeachment, far more than what Clinton did with the Lewinsky scandal, but I would also say it would be stupid of Republicans to impeach him.

If you can't beat someone at the ballot box, you're usually just shit out of luck. It doesn't mean its fair though

Posted by: Kal at March 09, 2015 08:48 PM (RNPlT)

215 My friends, it's time to set aside our personal differences and not look too closely at certain senators' financials.

Posted by: John McCain at March 09, 2015 08:48 PM (VAsIq)

216
Let them eat tossed salad.

Newsletter?

Posted by: Ali Williams at March 09, 2015 08:49 PM (Dwehj)

217 "What about the perjury?"

RHIP.

Posted by: Scooter Libby at March 09, 2015 08:49 PM (8TqNO)

218 215; Fall off that Budweiser truck again old man?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 08:49 PM (ucDmr)

219 Let them eat tossed salad.

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And how!

Posted by: Star Wars canon at March 09, 2015 08:50 PM (VAsIq)

220 189 Pictures from the 2005 party in St. Petersburg.

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thats a man, baby!

Posted by: JDub (was BunkerintheBurbs) at March 09, 2015 08:50 PM (X3xYu)

221 If you can't beat someone at the ballot box, you're usually just shit out of luck. It doesn't mean its fair though

It's not about 'fair'. It's about whether the political system/government has any legitimacy. A man of lawlessness will not do his duty to enforce laws.

Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2015 08:51 PM (A6vWB)

222 Pay for play

They are whores

Posted by: ThunderB, PinUpWhoreBabyMachine at March 09, 2015 08:51 PM (zOTsN)

223 Fall off that Budweiser truck again old man?

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My friend, the truck was hijacked by John Boehner.

He drank the entire contents of the truck, my friend.

Posted by: John McCain at March 09, 2015 08:51 PM (VAsIq)

224 220: Looks like a target rich environment.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 09, 2015 08:51 PM (ucDmr)

225 That income inequality would be a cornerstone of a campaign says something about us as an electorate.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 09, 2015 08:53 PM (8TqNO)

226 "This is more about the cave on immigration and McConnell's no shutdown
at any cost comments yesterday, and a long train of, well, you know.

Enough. Just, enough."

For all of those preaching incrementalism, the long war and lesser evils - this is why that strategy doesn't work.

People need to feel as if they're making a difference. They need hope, inspiration, and energy. Thinking six moves ahead on the chessboard (even if that's what was really happening) isn't enough when your troops don't trust you and no longer want to take another step under your banner.

And who really believes that McConnell's stand is based on tactics rather than simple self-interest, love of poltics as usual, and/or cowardice anymore?

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 09, 2015 08:53 PM (QKIQb)

227 There's nothing quite like a good assmunch to take one's mind off of a brewing scandal.

Posted by: Ali Williams at March 09, 2015 08:54 PM (Dwehj)

228 This whole thing makes me want to just shit myself.

Posted by: Dirty Randy at March 09, 2015 08:55 PM (xOu6p)

229 This whole thing makes me want to just shit myself.

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Al Roker at March 09, 2015 08:57 PM (ahBY0)

230 Hey, fappers! Long time, no see. Missed you all truly, madly, deeply. xoxo

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 08:57 PM (EgOr3)

231 Hey Peaches, thirsty?

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2015 09:00 PM (ahBY0)

232 Hey Peaches, where ya been?

Posted by: Infidel at March 09, 2015 09:00 PM (jwcHC)

233 great, my big comeback and it's a threadkiller! typical . . .

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:01 PM (EgOr3)

234 Peaches!

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 09, 2015 09:01 PM (r1Jeu)

235 Oh, hey, guys! I was really sick with flu and then bronchitis. Second I was well enough to travel had to slog down to San Diego to visit the dadster who had some surgery. It's really been a fuckin' slice . . . plus, who doesn't love to travel with 2 caged and screaming feline-americans??

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:02 PM (EgOr3)

236 So all of a sudden Obama's memory starts working. Now he admits he emailed Hillary? ok. last week he had no knowledge of a private Clinton email account hmm I smell ode de coercion/collusion/conspiracy

Posted by: Father Jones at March 09, 2015 09:02 PM (XYKz+)

237 DRUDGE:

AUDIT: 6.5 million people with active SSNs are 112-years-old or older...

The Country's in the very best of hands.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 09, 2015 09:02 PM (MMC8r)

238 oh, Zap, I saw that earlier, I was all, OMG! and you know those people take voting very seriously!

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:03 PM (EgOr3)

239 Howdy Peaches!

Posted by: freaked at March 09, 2015 09:03 PM (JdEZJ)

240 Hey, fappers! Long time, no see. Missed you all truly, madly, deeply. xoxo
Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 08:57 PM (EgOr3)

*****
Yo Peaches, hope things are working out for you and your Dad.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at March 09, 2015 09:04 PM (cIoI4)

241 so, hey, what are we drinking? I pre-loaded the fridge of death with some cowboy kool-aids before I split and, guess what, I got home at 2 pm and there's only one left. mmmmmmm, beer.

Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2015 09:05 PM (EgOr3)

242 It's not about 'fair'. It's about whether the
political system/government has any legitimacy. A man of lawlessness
will not do his duty to enforce laws.

Posted by: Methos

What would you have thought if Democrats had tried to impeach Reagan over Iran Contra?

Clearly, it was illegal, did he mean he should have been impeached?

The Boland amnedment that had been signed into law made further funding illegal, yet Reagan did it anyway.

Personally, I think Reagan made the right call.

Posted by: Kal at March 09, 2015 09:06 PM (RNPlT)

243 I think Reagan made the right call too. My problem with this admin is the totality of the deceptions across all departments. IRS, DOJ, DHS, NSA and the list goes on.

Posted by: Infidel at March 09, 2015 09:15 PM (jwcHC)

244 237
6.5 million people with active SSNs are 112-years-old or older...

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 09, 2015 09:02 PM (MMC8r)

The country is in great shape! The average life expectancy is increasing by leaps and bounds.

Posted by: rickl at March 09, 2015 09:25 PM (sdi6R)

245 Despite knowing their history; they still manage to stun you with the total arrogance and absolute corruption.

Knowing that she was considered a shoo-in; it makes you wonder just how much the media knew and has been sitting on for the last years. They must have been convinced it would emerge and blow the Democrats chances out of the water.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at March 09, 2015 10:41 PM (FygQB)

246 #ReadyForSanders

Posted by: Democrat Secret Thoughts at March 09, 2015 10:45 PM (Epq7Y)

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