Democrats: If Republicans Attempt to Demote John Boehner, We'll Keep Him In the Speakership

I don't want to be an asshole and re-open old wounds, but remember when the "Crazies" wanted to demote Boehner back in January, and said how crazy it was, and told the crazies to shut up, and were generally super-proud of themselves for not being so Crazy?

Seriously, you people who pride yourselves as being The Thinkers and the Reasonable Ones should try thinking occasionally, and giving reason a try.

So anyway, Boehner is essentially the Democratic Speaker of the House. He now has to play to them; they have leverage on him.

And he so wants to keep that nice office.

Posted by: Ace at 03:40 PM




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1 Of course

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 06, 2015 03:41 PM (KFdZd)

2 Pitchforks and torches.

Posted by: Gwyneth's steaming hooha, formerly real joe at March 06, 2015 03:41 PM (FdTDf)

3 So. As a Democrat, you support this?

Posted by: Garrett at March 06, 2015 03:42 PM (aC9BH)

4 Gonna have to unplug for a while. Blood pressure can't handle this.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 06, 2015 03:42 PM (KFdZd)

5 This GOP Speaker is brought to you by...

Nancy Pelosi and The Democratic Party.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 06, 2015 03:43 PM (8ZskC)

6 *hic*

Posted by: John Boehner at March 06, 2015 03:43 PM (zf9Mp)

7
I don't think strong enough curse words have yet been invented for how I feel.

Posted by: LibertarianJim at March 06, 2015 03:43 PM (WDCYi)

8 I just adore the color orange. I can't explain it.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at March 06, 2015 03:43 PM (8ZskC)

9 I don't mind it all, the basket is going hypersonic now.

I would care if there was even a smidgen of a chance to save it.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 06, 2015 03:43 PM (WNERA)

10 Burn him down.

Posted by: FDR's Television at March 06, 2015 03:44 PM (ne2fm)

11 So, the Boner curves left, eh?

Posted by: Bayou City at March 06, 2015 03:44 PM (AJrbR)

12 They will also give him a great big gavel.

Posted by: Roy at March 06, 2015 03:44 PM (VndSC)

13 And he is doing a fine job as the Democratic Speaker of the House.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 06, 2015 03:44 PM (2x3L+)

14 Baby step left

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 06, 2015 03:44 PM (WNERA)

15 Further evidence that there is only ONE party. The Party of Government. It's just a matter of degree.

Posted by: Mr. Natural at March 06, 2015 03:44 PM (/pOl7)

16 >>>I don't want to be an asshole and re-open old wounds, but remember when
the "Crazies" wanted to demote Boehner back in January, and said how
crazy it was, and told the crazies to shut up, and were generally
super-proud of themselves for not being so Crazy?<<<


Knock knock.

**who's there?**

Orange.

**orange who?**

Orange you glad you kept me as Speaker? *hic*





Posted by: Speaker Boehner at March 06, 2015 03:45 PM (iD3/d)

17 I hate that guy.

Posted by: maddogg at March 06, 2015 03:45 PM (xWW96)

18 Well, that's an endorsement of how fine a job the Republican speaker is doing, innit?

Posted by: blaster at March 06, 2015 03:45 PM (Rx8ML)

19 I hear Boehner is now the frontrunner for the Dems in 2016, at least until Hillary can kill off a few more problems.

Posted by: Roy at March 06, 2015 03:46 PM (VndSC)

20
Drudge is reporting the debt limit will be hit in 10 days.

I can presume the Speaker will take his marching orders from his Democratic base.

Posted by: LibertarianJim at March 06, 2015 03:46 PM (WDCYi)

21 As a matter of fact, burn down whoever sidles up to him between now and a date to be named later that this shit-show ends.

Posted by: FDR's Television at March 06, 2015 03:46 PM (ne2fm)

22
As I stated in the last thread, I give Menendez more credit for standing up openly to SCOAMF - with a criminal investigation over his head - than I do Agent Orange and McChinless.

Not to say I like or would vote for Menendez ever, but he didn't have to do what he did, and being a Democrat earns you the fate of a Joe Lieberman.

He gets props. I spit on Boehner and McConnell.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 06, 2015 03:46 PM (CMkNk)

23 two can play this game, Mr. Bond. You support Boehner, we can support Pelosi. Don't make no difference anyway.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 06, 2015 03:46 PM (wlWrh)

24 Another rino finds comfort in the bosoms of the democrats.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 06, 2015 03:46 PM (WNERA)

25 And of all the Presidential candidates it appears that only Scott Walker has a glimmer of a chance of breaking away from these shackles. The rest? Feh!

Posted by: Mr. Natural at March 06, 2015 03:46 PM (/pOl7)

26 When you are ready Ace, NRX is here for you.

Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 03:46 PM (DWgda)

27 I wish my outrage meter hadn't broke or I would be really pissed. As it is though, meh. Of course he is. There is only one party now.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at March 06, 2015 03:46 PM (nuU9P)

28 Remember when Let It Burn was outre?

Posted by: blaster at March 06, 2015 03:46 PM (Rx8ML)

29 If going Dem is good enough for Republican leadership it's good enough for me.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at March 06, 2015 03:47 PM (1BQGO)

30 The people of Ohio are strange, politically -- they like their RINO's -- drunk and orange colored.

He has to go. Democrats supporting him? Anyone need further proof?

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 06, 2015 03:47 PM (xQX/f)

31 >>>> remember when the "Crazies" wanted to demote Boehner back in January, and said how crazy it was, and told the crazies to shut up, and were generally super-proud of themselves for not being so Crazy?

Wait, we're the "Crazies" here, right? Who told us to shut up? Gabe?

Posted by: L, Elle at March 06, 2015 03:47 PM (2x3L+)

32 open old wounds?

Pretty fucking fresh after supporting obama's exec amnesty.

The guy needs to be flushed. We need to nuke his district with anyone else.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 06, 2015 03:47 PM (wlWrh)

33 Harrison Ford crash-landed on the wrong golf course....

Posted by: Han Yolo at March 06, 2015 03:47 PM (t72+4)

34 Care to show these volume of postings where posters were calling critics of Bohner crazy? Claiming attacks where no such attacks occurred is crazy.

Posted by: WTF at March 06, 2015 03:47 PM (glJL/)

35 28 Remember when Let It Burn was outre?

Posted by: blaster at March 06, 2015 03:46 PM (Rx8ML)


We've advanced beyond Let it Burn to Get the Gasoline.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 06, 2015 03:47 PM (CMkNk)

36 I know some folks are snarking about Ace proclaiming us all to be Democrats, but tell me, is he wrong?

Posted by: Tyrone Shoelaces at March 06, 2015 03:47 PM (fiRHA)

37 These Republicans are being this way so that we will find the GOP so distasteful that we won't support Walker.

You think I am kidding.

Posted by: blaster at March 06, 2015 03:47 PM (Rx8ML)

38 33 Harrison Ford crash-landed on the wrong golf course....
Posted by: Han Yolo at March 06, 2015 03:47 PM (t72+4)


"Han Cholo, homie!" Post Amnesty Star Wars. Low rider Millenium Falcon.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 06, 2015 03:48 PM (CMkNk)

39 The apologists started rearing their heads a few days ago and their apologism was pretty milquetoast.


I'd personally like to see them admit they have no ability to recognize obvious patterns and make fairly easy predictions based upon those patterns.


"We can't do anything with only the House!" A lie, but whatever.


GOP takes Senate: "We can't do anything because Obama will just Veto!" Are you fucking kidding me?


"This is already settled in the courts!" or "We have to wait for this to work its way through the courts!" As if recent history doesn't clearly indicate that's a losing path too.


"We have to give it time!" What time do you think we have?


And we keep swinging left.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 06, 2015 03:48 PM (xSCb6)

40 Conservatives need to run a 3rd Party race in Boehner's Ohio district.

Don't even pretend to try and beat him in the primary. Run a 3rd Party conservative candidate and we can partner with Democrats and see him knocked off.

Posted by: Kal at March 06, 2015 03:49 PM (MgfdF)

41 We've advanced beyond Let it Burn to Get the Gasoline.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 06, 2015 03:47 PM (CMkNk)


Exactly my point, JJ. Let it Burn is now the establishment position.

Posted by: blaster at March 06, 2015 03:49 PM (Rx8ML)

42
This reminds me of the scene in Risky Business when Booger tells Tom Cruise to FUCK IT.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 06, 2015 03:50 PM (NitOS)

43 40 Conservatives need to run a 3rd Party race in Boehner's Ohio district.

Don't even pretend to try and beat him in the primary. Run a 3rd Party conservative candidate and we can partner with Democrats and see him knocked off.
Posted by: Kal at March 06, 2015 03:49 PM (MgfdF)


Agreed. Sadly, he's got a fat deal as a lobbyist somewhere already lined up. He should only choke on his money.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 06, 2015 03:51 PM (CMkNk)

44 Since Boehner is already partnering with the Democrats, not sure how that would work.

Posted by: Tyrone Shoelaces at March 06, 2015 03:51 PM (fiRHA)

45 ****Care to show these volume of postings where posters were calling critics of Bohner crazy? Claiming attacks where no such attacks occurred is crazy.****


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Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 06, 2015 03:51 PM (xSCb6)

46 This reminds me of the scene in Risky Business when Booger tells Tom Cruise to FUCK IT.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 06, 2015 03:50 PM (NitOS)


This reminds of the scene in Strange Brew when the guys are in a beer delivery truck and the brake lines have been cut and they are on a really steep hill and Doug just lets go of the steering wheel and says "No point in steering now, eh?"

Posted by: blaster at March 06, 2015 03:52 PM (Rx8ML)

47
Time to feed the kittehs and forget my troubles for a bit . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 06, 2015 03:52 PM (CMkNk)

48 Shocked, shocked etc.

Posted by: your winnings, sir at March 06, 2015 03:52 PM (evdj2)

49 "A Republic, if you can keep it"

As if![/]



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 06, 2015 03:52 PM (7x4lH)

50 CHEWY!

Posted by: Han Shouldn't Fly Solo at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (A/hn9)

51 Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 06, 2015 03:51 PM (xSCb6

Fail

Posted by: WTF at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (glJL/)

52
This reminds me of that scene in Requiem For A Dream...

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (NitOS)

53 remember when the "Crazies" wanted to demote Boehner back in January, and said how crazy it was, and told the crazies to shut up, and were generally super-proud of themselves for not being so Crazy?

Sorry; I don't understand what that means. Of whom are you speaking, Ace?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (DXzRD)

54 I just can't get enough of the president's tasty chocolaty balls in my mouth.....I call it giving him the old 'Orange Crush'.

Posted by: John Boehner at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (t72+4)

55 @15: "15 Further evidence that there is only ONE party. The Party of Government. It's just a matter of degree."

Ding. Ding. Ding.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (kqGWM)

56 50 CHEWY!
Posted by: Han Shouldn't Fly Solo at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (A/hn9)


Chewy? Chui!

Vato loco!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (CMkNk)

57 I remember well after the 2012 elections when the rest of us were mind fried becuase Obama won .

Boehner said He slept like a baby .

i think that was indicative of sumthin

Posted by: comrade willow at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (nqBYe)

58 I don't want to say I told you so but I will.

I TOLD YOU GUYS SO

And got dissed and dismissed for it.

Good thing I don't harbor any hard feelings.

*goes off to check bear traps and claymores leading to porch*

You all can get off the lawn and out of the heat. There's some lemonade on the porch. It's nice and cold. Come on and set a spell. We'll have a good time. You'll see.

*walks back to porch with evil smirk on face*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (zRby/)

59 Looks like we have a group going to the barrel. That should be interesting.

Posted by: blaster at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (Rx8ML)

60 Wild Turkey 101....a whole bottle of 'fuck-it'

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at March 06, 2015 03:54 PM (uJK1E)

61 I don't want to be an asshole and re-open old wounds,

ace, I do this with all due respect for you and the fact that this is your sandbox.

*shoots you in knee with longbow*

please don't ban me

Posted by: alexthechick - LIV ahoy! at March 06, 2015 03:54 PM (mf5HN)

62


Damn, this barrel reeks.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 06, 2015 03:54 PM (7x4lH)

63 The great euphoria back in early November was all a mirage.

Posted by: tbd at March 06, 2015 03:54 PM (csPpp)

64 Nice of Pelosi to underline it so clearly for us, huh?

Like, if you didn't know he was owned before the Amnesty vote, there is absolutely no wiggle room for some sort of "see, he's playing 5-dimensional chess and he's totes gonna jedi-mind trick the Dems into doing something super-conservative soon" explanation now.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 06, 2015 03:54 PM (lHHyw)

65
I promise, I never once sucked any democrat cock. Never!

Posted by: John Boehner at March 06, 2015 03:54 PM (P330y)

66 Boehner can only do so much , Look if you guyz get your asses in gear and help win elections we can get more R's to fight back against the 'man'

hahahahahaha

Posted by: comrade willow at March 06, 2015 03:55 PM (nqBYe)

67 41 We've advanced beyond Let it Burn to Get the Gasoline.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 06, 2015 03:47 PM (CMkNk)

Exactly my point, JJ. Let it Burn is now the establishment position.





Bringing matches won't be necessary this thing is gonna blow.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 06, 2015 03:55 PM (WNERA)

68
I don't want to be an asshole and re-open old wounds, but remember when the "Crazies" wanted to demote Boehner back in January, and said how crazy it was, and told the crazies to shut up, and were generally super-proud of themselves for not being so Crazy?



Is that sentence missing some words or am I going crazy?

Posted by: eleven at March 06, 2015 03:55 PM (MDgS8)

69 Just a quick warning, on the odd chance that anyone here watches the TV show Scandal...


A trending item on Facebook notes that Lena Dunham will be appearing on that show at some point in the near future.

You have been warned!

Posted by: junior at March 06, 2015 03:55 PM (UWFpX)

70 Predictable, wasn't it?

Posted by: Carol at March 06, 2015 03:55 PM (sj3Ax)

71 I was trolling my GOPe friends the other day - telling them I hope they enjoyed their GOPe Majority, being led by Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.

They were none too amused, but really I couldn't care less.

Posted by: DocJ at March 06, 2015 03:55 PM (zrsn3)

72 Ace,
As a Democrat do you prefer Pelosi to Boehner?

Posted by: Thank You Obama at March 06, 2015 03:55 PM (/Ikyi)

73 And of all the Presidential candidates it appears
that only Scott Walker has a glimmer of a chance of breaking away from
these shackles. The rest? Feh!

Posted by: Mr. Natural
................
pffft... he'll be stuck at that 16% until election day...

You'll get Jeb Bush and like it!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 06, 2015 03:55 PM (so+oy)

74
*glug, glug*

*puff*

*slams glass down*


Barkeep, reload! Make it a double!

Posted by: Johnny (Cheeto) Boner at March 06, 2015 03:56 PM (LA7Cm)

75 Ace is creeping toward "Let It Burn."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 06, 2015 03:56 PM (Zu3d9)

76 Here's the part where the guilty parties start with the "who, me?" routine.......

Posted by: Tyrone Shoelaces at March 06, 2015 03:56 PM (fiRHA)

77 Agreed. Sadly, he's got a fat deal as a lobbyist somewhere already lined up. He should only choke on his money.
***
Get Glenn Reynolds lobbyist tax on the docket and keep bringing it up until it passes.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 06, 2015 03:56 PM (78TbK)

78 You're all crazy.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 03:56 PM (evdj2)

79 I really think a 3rd party that we just break out when leadership decides to go rogue would be a great strategy.

You cut off a few leaders head and they'll get the message to right the ship or be humilated.

Posted by: Kal at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (MgfdF)

80 I thought people here were done with the GOP?

Posted by: Thank You Obama at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (/Ikyi)

81 1. If John Boehner isn't removed from the Speakership, the Republic is essentially dead.

2. John Boehner won't be removed from the Speakership.

3. Profit!

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (lG2E3)

82 I luv you guysh.

Posted by: Shpeaker Boehner at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (bAGA/)

83 i heard;The Republicans are weak, they do not have enough R's in congress, Just wait until we get some power of our own, we are gonna roll all this overreach back!

uh hmm.

Posted by: comrade willow at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (nqBYe)

84 The Weeping Boner has been dead to me ever since his childish mocking of his own base over amnesty.

That sickened me to the core and proved once and for all that the GOPe is the enemy.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (7ObY1)

85
You're all crazy.

So are we!!

Posted by: eleven at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (MDgS8)

86 This is the way it's gonna be from now on?

Like Peter Givens, every day you see me it's the worst day of my life.

This has got to stop.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (IlUbl)

87 Ace is creeping toward "Let It Burn."

Darth Math brooks no rivals.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (evdj2)

88
Alternate poat title:

Elections Have Consequences

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (NitOS)

89 I just called my congressman's office--one of those republicans who voted to supply money for obama's illegal plan. Went on how supporting speaker was just like supporting democrats. Puke.

He was very sorry I felt that way. Now they have my name and where I live.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (WNERA)

90 I told you s-........

Ahhhh, screw it. Let it burn.

Posted by: ICBMMan at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (zCVYv)

91 Is that sentence missing some words or am I going crazy?
Posted by: eleven at March 06, 2015 03:55 PM (MDgS



That's not binary.

Posted by: alexthechick - LIV ahoy! at March 06, 2015 03:58 PM (mf5HN)

92 I was there when Speaker Boehner pulled the rug out from under his party. Heck, it was my idea. Ask Mitch.

Posted by: Brian Williams at March 06, 2015 03:58 PM (RusNE)

93 A boner runs through it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 06, 2015 03:58 PM (W5DcG)

94 40 Conservatives need to run a 3rd Party race in Boehner's Ohio district.

Don't even pretend to try and beat him in the primary. Run a 3rd Party conservative candidate and we can partner with Democrats and see him knocked off.
Posted by: Kal at March 06, 2015 03:49 PM (MgfdF)



Will not work. The only way you'll remove him is in the primary. This area is very conservative. Low info conservative but the chances of them going third party or dem enough to unseat boehner is very low. To remove him you need to go the cantor/brat route. Last year the main primary opponent did really next to nothing in challenging boehner. And boehner went ALL OUT against him, more than he ever has in any primary or election ever before. And he still lost 10% of the support he usually gets.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 06, 2015 03:58 PM (ouCtK)

95 ***Fail


Posted by: WTF at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (glJL/)***



You're either projecting or you don't understand what "fail" actually means.



Which is it, Sport?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 06, 2015 03:58 PM (xSCb6)

96 As I stated in the last thread, I give Menendez more credit for standing up openly to SCOAMF - with a criminal investigation over his head - than I do Agent Orange and McChinless.

Not to say I like or would vote for Menendez ever, but he didn't have to do what he did, and being a Democrat earns you the fate of a Joe Lieberman.

He gets props. I spit on Boehner and McConnell.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 06, 2015 03:46 PM (CMkNk)


Can't really argue with that logic.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 06, 2015 03:58 PM (FMbng)

97 I've said here long ago that this would happen if he faced Republican opposition for the Speakership.

If this doesn't knock supporters off the Team GOP bandwagon, what will? Anyone backing Boehner now needs to give me some damned good reasons they aren't just drinking the orange Kool-Aid.

What's his upside, and what could be worse?

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 03:58 PM (QKIQb)

98 Oompa Loompa, doopity doo, I've got another puzzle for you...

Suckers.

Posted by: John Loompa Boehner at March 06, 2015 03:58 PM (sH832)

99 Once again we see our brave republicans taking cupcakes to a knife fight....

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at March 06, 2015 03:58 PM (uJK1E)

100 I thought people here were done with the GOP?

We are witnessing the largest (numerical) GOP CONgressional majority in something like 80-years - and it's being led by the nose by a pederast from Nevada and a loony leftist moonbat from SanFran.

The GOP is done - that we may be done with it is immaterial at this point.

Posted by: DocJ at March 06, 2015 03:59 PM (zrsn3)

101 Ain't this a dog bites man story?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 06, 2015 03:59 PM (XmOA9)

102
You know why we're stupid NOT to start a new party?

Because we have nothing to lose and everything to re-gain.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 06, 2015 03:59 PM (NitOS)

103 look, we shoot traitors and cowards in war. This is war. If Boehner is going to caucus with the donks, then he must be removed. Not because his actions will sink the ship or whatever but because the ship cannot survive a threat to its order, eh?

What did the admiral say? "I'll put an officer's jacket on a broom and demand the men salute it" because order was more important that the man in the jacket.

anyway...letting boehner stay speaker is a bigger crime to the nation than letting anyone else be speaker.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 06, 2015 03:59 PM (wlWrh)

104 Does anyone remember when Boehner promised to continue the tradition of the Hastert Rule?

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 06, 2015 03:59 PM (AkOaV)

105 Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 06, 2015 03:51 PM (xSCb6)

Forgot Weft K loop

I was dissing Boehner back in 2011 or 12 (or both) and he got all in my shit about how I had no right to say the things Iwas saying.


Pshaw, I say. The traitorous scum turned out to be . . .

Traitorous scum.

It was about whether they would submit a real bill to repeal Obamacare. I said they'd never do it. they only held votes that they knew harry reid would never let see the light of day. (plus Obama wouldn't sign it anyway)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 06, 2015 03:59 PM (zRby/)

106 I expect the usual suspects of the establishment loving hacks that comment here will avoid this thread.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 06, 2015 03:59 PM (ouCtK)

107
they all have lunch at the same country clubs.any differencein political ideology is just a veneer for use rubes

Posted by: kj at March 06, 2015 03:59 PM (lKyWE)

108 R's, "Are you worried about Obama's executive overreach and lawlessness? Give us the majority and we will fight for you!"

LOL

or cries, we're really screwed aren't we?

Posted by: comrade willow at March 06, 2015 03:59 PM (nqBYe)

109 We are all Democrats now.

Posted by: rickl at March 06, 2015 04:00 PM (sdi6R)

110
That's not binary.

hay.

Posted by: eleven at March 06, 2015 04:00 PM (MDgS8)

111 >>Ace is creeping toward "Let It Burn."

Uh, a few days ago Ace essentially said "I'll strike the match!" by pledging to vote for Dems. Burning is a given thanks to the GOPe.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 06, 2015 04:01 PM (lHHyw)

112 It's time to burn the GOP to the ground.

Posted by: Sam In Va at March 06, 2015 04:01 PM (Q52VH)

113 anyhoo, just so you know i fell for it all, hook line and stinker that it is.

Posted by: comrade willow at March 06, 2015 04:01 PM (nqBYe)

114 I'm going to have to put iPad back down. I only picked up & saw headline & pretty much called him that on Twitter Tuesday. Now Ds know they own him, always two steps ahead of Boner.

Posted by: Carol at March 06, 2015 04:01 PM (sj3Ax)

115 I don't have to lean on John. We both know what it is to cry.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at March 06, 2015 04:01 PM (DrC22)

116 Hold my Scotch and watch this...

Posted by: John Boehner at March 06, 2015 04:01 PM (oFCZn)

117 >>I remember well after the 2012 elections when the rest of us were mind fried becuase Obama won .



Boehner said He slept like a baby .



i think that was indicative of sumthin

Posted by: comrade willow


Yeah, he was exhausted from sucking Obama's dick all evening.

Posted by: Aviator at March 06, 2015 04:01 PM (sQzB6)

118 28 Remember when Let It Burn was outre?

Remember when America existed?
Remember when we didn't have a commie dictatorship?

Remember when there actually was Law and the Rule of same?

Remember when God actually blessed America?

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at March 06, 2015 04:01 PM (scgac)

119 And of all the Presidential candidates it appears
that only Scott Walker has a glimmer of a chance of breaking away from
these shackles. The rest? Feh!

Posted by: Mr. Natural


Disagree. I think Jindal would go scorched earth, and that's what we need at this point.

43
40 Conservatives need to run a 3rd Party race in Boehner's Ohio district.



Don't even pretend to try and beat him in the primary. Run a 3rd
Party conservative candidate and we can partner with Democrats and see
him knocked off.

Posted by: Kal at March 06, 2015 03:49 PM (MgfdF)





Agreed. Sadly, he's got a fat deal as a lobbyist somewhere already lined up. He should only choke on his money.


This is the perfect place to test out Ace's strategy of selecting GOP quislings to be made examples of. Start at the top. True, we'll never get rid of Boehner in the primary, but if enough Republicans vote 3rd party or Dem, he'll lose. We don't need to get them all, just enough to beat him. We'll lose a seat, but gain a very compelling example for the others.

Posted by: pep at March 06, 2015 04:01 PM (4nR9/)

120 Is that sentence missing some words or am I going crazy?
Posted by: eleven at March 06, 2015 03:55 PM

yes

Maybe?

no

try again later.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 06, 2015 04:01 PM (zRby/)

121 "It's time to burn the GOP to the ground. "


Let's burn this fcuker to the ground!

Posted by: Guy in Ferguson at March 06, 2015 04:02 PM (LA7Cm)

122 Begs the question why vote for a rino republican when you can get a real democrat in office. Jeeze nothing really changes.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 06, 2015 04:02 PM (WNERA)

123 Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (WNERA)

Don't worry, Bob. No doubt any humber of crooks and communist have a lot of our numbers and know where we live, even if we don't live where you live. Heck, I put out whiteboard signs in front of my house. I'm sure somebody called the NSA about them. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2015 04:02 PM (DXzRD)

124 >>The GOP is done - that we may be done with it is immaterial at this point.

Well said.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 06, 2015 04:02 PM (lHHyw)

125 Article V or physical force, those are our remaining options

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 06, 2015 04:03 PM (2ePOO)

126 So this is what it's like to live in a Communist country with one party.

Does that mean O will get "re-elected" with 110% of the vote?

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 06, 2015 04:03 PM (SXYle)

127 Maybe we should take up a collection to post bail for Boehner's bartender

Posted by: L, Elle at March 06, 2015 04:03 PM (2x3L+)

128 >>Damn, this barrel reeks.

That's not a barrel, it's my cooter.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 06, 2015 04:03 PM (sQzB6)

129 I was there the day John Boehner capitulated to the Democrats and threw his party under the bus, all 1000 of them.....

Posted by: Brian Williams at March 06, 2015 04:03 PM (t72+4)

130 And yet only the partisans care.
This won't even be a story come Monday.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 06, 2015 04:03 PM (XmOA9)

131 "we can partner with Democrats and see him knocked off..."

Dems would run a tomato-can opponent against him like they did for Christie

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 04:04 PM (QKIQb)

132 In the immortal words of Rock Master Scott:

The roof! The roof! The roof is on fire!

We don't need no water, let the motherf**ker burn!

Burn Motherf**ker, Burn.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 04:04 PM (evdj2)

133 "104 Does anyone remember when Boehner promised to continue the tradition of the Hastert Rule?"

You can't hold me to that. I was drunk.

Posted by: John Boner, Fluffer to the President at March 06, 2015 04:04 PM (lG2E3)

134
This is total bullshit, though, because the remedy is simple: force Boehner to resign. Fuck the Democrats and what they say.

We start a grassroots movement to force the resignations of Boehner and McConnell.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 06, 2015 04:04 PM (NitOS)

135 "Maybe we should take up a collection to post bail for Boehner's bartender"



Hey, a good bartender is hard to find. Like a good mechanic or dry cleaner. That's serious business we're talking about here.

Posted by: Johnny (Cheeto) Boner at March 06, 2015 04:04 PM (LA7Cm)

136 Look, we can't go all extremist here. I mean, it's the middle of the road moderate moderation that has gotten us to the wonderful place where America is now. I mean where would we be with a balanced budget, secure borders, and an unspeakably lethal military?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 06, 2015 04:05 PM (659DL)

137 Kind of like the NH House Speaker, Shawn Jasper, (R(ino), who was elected with a majority of NH House DemocRats, so that a conservative Bill O'Brien didn't get it.

Posted by: Death Is Not The Worst Of Evils at March 06, 2015 04:05 PM (nbGZj)

138 What's his upside, and what could be worse?


Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame


His upside is bacon for the people of his district.

@100
We are witnessing the largest (numerical) GOP CONgressional majority in
something like 80-years - and it's being led by the nose by a pederast
from Nevada and a loony leftist moonbat from SanFran.


The point is to remember that the party doesn't win a seat, the individual does. A party is only a collection of individuals, and if you make an example of select individuals, the rest of the herd will follow.

We should be the lions, and Boehner the wildebeest culled from the herd for consumption. The others will take the lesson eventually.

Posted by: pep at March 06, 2015 04:05 PM (4nR9/)

139 That's crazy, Ace! Why, we just need to give Boehner another hundred or so Republican congresscritters, so he can have a veto-proof majority!

Then he'll REALLY unleash the conservative! Until then, we just have to give in to the President, so we don't annoy the moderates.

Yeah.

Posted by: HollowHead at March 06, 2015 04:05 PM (TOk1P)

140 I suggest any conservatives from Ohio get over to the Speaker's office in DC and have a world with him. He won't see you, of course, but he'll know you're there. And pay a visit to his state office. It would be less of a trip.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2015 04:05 PM (DXzRD)

141 Don't worry, Bob. No doubt any humber of crooks and communist have a lot of our numbers and know where we live, even if we don't live where you live.

Dude, in my case I know with certainty. I may even feel comfortable explaining the reason someday.

That's why you see me dancing riiiiiiight on the razor's edge of certain subjects.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 06, 2015 04:05 PM (DT3rQ)

142 ****"Begs the question why vote for a rino republican when you can get a real democrat in office."****



It just encapsulates the GOPs' fundamental problem of trying to play the Donks' game - why should I vote for the guy who's offering me less free shit?


Obviously Math wins in the end, but everyone lives in the now and the money is going to SOMEBODY. Might as well be me.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 06, 2015 04:06 PM (xSCb6)

143 I cannot believe I am stuck being the sort of kind of voice of something if you squint a lot is reason but there is this consolation.

As BC and I discuss in our latest podcast, now with more me screaming Delegation Doctrine do you speak it!, Scott Walker is still alive. At least TFG hasn't gone full Putin yet.

So we've got that going for us.

Posted by: alexthechick - LIV ahoy! at March 06, 2015 04:06 PM (mf5HN)

144 Does that mean O will get "re-elected" with 110% of the vote?

Nah, nothing like that. More like Obama will throw out that pesky 22nd amendment and the house will think about discussing options.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 06, 2015 04:06 PM (sH832)

145 57 I remember well after the 2012 elections when the rest of us were mind fried becuase Obama won .

Boehner said He slept like a baby .

i think that was indicative of sumthin
Posted by: comrade willow at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (nqBYe)


I remember immediately after the 2012 elections and the first words out of that orange skinned scum sucking dead eyes shit weasel was comprehensive immigration reform and working with the president.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 06, 2015 04:06 PM (ouCtK)

146 Look guys, it doesnt matter if you vote R or D except in very rare cases.

You are getting leftism. Reprogs vote to fund ACA and Exec amnesty, have added trillions to the debt since 2010 and generally engage in "failure theater" (great line BTW) @ every opportunity.

Voting isnt going to save us. Writing letters isnt going to save us. Calling your congressional office isnt going to save us. Only the realization that we are a "republic in name only" might. To embrace the truth and reality of our situation may lead to viable solutions, the current framework/construct is completely incapable of turning this around because it misses the entire point of what our problems are.

Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 04:06 PM (DWgda)

147 "Who will rid me of this turbulent Speaker of the House?"

Posted by: Zombie Becket at March 06, 2015 04:07 PM (jpW6t)

148 Easiest way to thwart this--a bit of history from Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Gurney_Cannon
This is the House's version of the nuclear option.

"Revolt

On March 17, 1910, after two failed attempts to curb [Speaker Joseph] Cannon's absolute power in the House, Nebraska Representative George Norris led a coalition of 42 progressive Republicans and the entire delegation of 149 Democrats in a revolt. With many of Cannon's most powerful allies absent from the Chamber, but enough Members on hand for a quorum, Norris introduced a resolution that would remove the Speaker from the Rules Committee and strip him of his power to assign committees.

While his lieutenants and the House sergeant-at-arms left the chamber to collect absent members in an attempt to rally enough votes for Cannon, the Speaker's allies initiated a legislative block in the form of a point of order debate. When Cannon supporters proved difficult to find (many of the staunchest were Irish and spent the day at various St. Patrick's Day celebrations), the filibuster continued for 26 hours, with Cannon's present friends making repeated motions for recess and adjournment. When Cannon finally ruled the resolution out of order at noon on March 19, Norris appealed the resolution to the full House, which voted to overrule Cannon, and then to adopt the Norris resolution.

Cannon managed to save some face by promptly requesting a vote to remove him as Speaker, which he won handily since the Republican majority would not risk a Democratic speaker replacing him. However, his iron rule of the House was broken, and Cannon lost the Speakership when the Democrats won a majority later that same year."

The majority sets the rules ultimately and not the speaker. This, of course, means 218 Republicans have the guts to do this. Effectively they can, if they wish, neuter the speaker to the level of the Vice President (reign but not rule). Of course, this is the Stupid Party where fecklessness and cowardice reign, so this won't happen.

Posted by: wg at March 06, 2015 04:07 PM (Lq0lz)

149 " and the house will think about discussing options."


But impeachment will be off.....the......table.

Posted by: Johnny (Cheeto) Boner at March 06, 2015 04:07 PM (LA7Cm)

150 Bring back the Whigs!

Posted by: Gene Kelly at March 06, 2015 04:07 PM (eedLh)

151 Article V or physical force, those are our remaining options

If the first step with Art V isn't removing all current officeholders and prohibiting them from ever again holding any government position of any kind period (preferably also their family members), there's not really much point, is there?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 06, 2015 04:08 PM (DT3rQ)

152 If only you guys paid your elected reps more money, alot more money, and you wouldn't have to worry about this because you'd attract such better candidates!

Posted by: andycanuck at March 06, 2015 04:08 PM (JCdoo)

153 Largest Republican majority since Abe Vigoda was a kid.

And the signature legislative achievement is...full funding of a monstrous federal bureaucracy executing presidential overreach.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 06, 2015 04:08 PM (659DL)

154 How many GOP squishes need to be primaried out in order to get control of the US House?

If Cantor can be primaried out, why Boehner?


Maybe just mount one primary challenge - Boehner himself. Make an example of him.

Posted by: Boots at March 06, 2015 04:08 PM (l9mF2)

155 Al Gore is going to Iowa, supposedly for some GloBull warming BS.

Posted by: Carol at March 06, 2015 04:08 PM (sj3Ax)

156 Posted by: wg at March 06, 2015 04:07 PM (Lq0lz)

Consider faxing your message to the most conservative members of the House.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2015 04:09 PM (DXzRD)

157 There's only one solution to this....

TGIF, MFers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM1xL2JP
WJo

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 06, 2015 04:09 PM (XmOA9)

158 Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 04:06 PM (DWgda)

Shorter version: More ammo.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 06, 2015 04:09 PM (lG2E3)

159 Really, I'm not sure if Boehner likes underaged prostitutes or not.

I would think if he does we would have surely heard about it by now... unless that's why he turns his rump to the Dems so easily and often.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 06, 2015 04:09 PM (TOk1P)

160 Remember when after taking back the House Boehner said this time they wouldn't disappoint their voters like Hastert and Delay did? Hahahahaha.

Good times.

Screw this.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 06, 2015 04:09 PM (2x3L+)

161 Things will not change until the GOP reps senators fear us more than the retribution of their leaders. Executing the leaders would have a salutary effect in that regard.

Posted by: pep at March 06, 2015 04:09 PM (4nR9/)

162 If only you guys paid your elected reps more money, alot more money, and you wouldn't have to worry about this because you'd attract such better candidates!
Posted by: andycanuck at March 06, 2015 04:08 PM (JCdoo)



Ohhhh so close but not quite enough sneering condescension.

The East German judge and I give it a 4.7.

Posted by: alexthechick - LIV ahoy! at March 06, 2015 04:10 PM (mf5HN)

163

Beaten, why for?
Can't take much more

One!
Nothing wrong with me
Two!
Nothing wrong with me
Three!
Nothing wrong with me
Four!
Nothing wrong with me!

One!
Something's got to give
Two!
Something's got to give
Three!
Something's got to give
NOW!

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor...

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor...

Now...! Now...! Now...!

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 04:10 PM (evdj2)

164 >>>> remember when the "Crazies" wanted to demote Boehner back in January, and said how crazy it was, and told the crazies to shut up, and were generally super-proud of themselves for not being so Crazy?

Wait, we're the "Crazies" here, right? Who told us to shut up? Gabe?

...

I see a lot of it on twitter. There's a coterie of self-congratulating Smart Set types who don't think about things but sure tweet a lot, and basically they just tweet Class Wisdom, like Boehner is the best we can do and anyone who says otherwise is Crazy and Not Our Class.

I'm reminded again of this cool idea i saw a couple of months ago, an observation of Schopenauer's, that most things men think they "know" is just some shit that THREE OTHER PEOPLE said, and that most things in life that non-thinking people "know" are of this character, just something that someone said, then someone repeated, and someone repeated again, and that becomes Something Which We "Know."

"It is known," the slave girl translator on Game of Thrones always says about folk wisdom.

There's a lot of class-based folk wisdom of this variety, that the self-declared "Smart Set" keeps repeating, *without ever having actually thought much about it,* which really should be something a soi-disant Smart Set does from the start, right?

Posted by: ace at March 06, 2015 04:10 PM (E+pqw)

165 ***"Largest Republican majority since Abe Vigoda was a kid.


And the signature legislative achievement is...full funding of a monstrous federal bureaucracy executing presidential overreach."****



Results don't matter to the apologists. Only magical thinking.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 06, 2015 04:11 PM (xSCb6)

166 The East German judge and I give it a 4.7.

That's the last time I bribe the French officials for comment rating. Pricks.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 06, 2015 04:11 PM (JCdoo)

167 "I suggest any conservatives from Ohio get over to the Speaker's office in DC and have a world with him"

I'm from OH - I'll be glad to pick up the other two conservatives next time I'm back there to visit. I'll be renting a compact so we won't feel so lonely in a big car.

In addition to Boehner, my home state has given us Kasich, Taft, La Tourette, etc... and went for Obama both times.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 04:11 PM (QKIQb)

168 Not only do we not have hills left to die on, we're up to our hips in seawater and the rear ranks are screaming about sharks.

It's either fight or break ranks, and the leadership keeps ordering retreat.

So break ranks already. Yeah, the first attempt to do that failed (so far) because of fraud and incompetence and more importantly sabotage and corruption, but if every failed businessman quit the first time, there would be no businesses.

So it's time to start again, under whatever label.

For those terrified that will leave the Dems in control - seriously? What do you call this?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 06, 2015 04:11 PM (bLnSU)

169 As BC and I discuss in our latest podcast, now with more me screaming Delegation Doctrine do you speak it!, Scott Walker is still alive.

Only because--and I am increasingly convinced of this--he almost didn't get away with Breitbart.

Yeah. I'm hereby outing myself as believing he or someone in his circle did him in. It doesn't even seem that far fetched anymore, honestly.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 06, 2015 04:11 PM (DT3rQ)

170
Alternate poat title:

You Know Nothing, Jon Snow.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 06, 2015 04:12 PM (NitOS)

171 Ideas are not promulgated by reason, but rather caught by contagion.

Dr Johnson said that, or something similar.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 04:13 PM (evdj2)

172 155 Al Gore is going to Iowa, supposedly for some GloBull warming BS.
------------------------------------------

I hope all Iowa morons stock up on food & water and meds, since blizzards and ice storms seem to follow AlGore when he's on official GloBull warming biz.

Posted by: Boots at March 06, 2015 04:13 PM (l9mF2)

173 I see a lot of it on twitter. There's a coterie of self-congratulating
Smart Set types who don't think about things but sure tweet a lot, and
basically they just tweet Class Wisdom, like Boehner is the best we can
do and anyone who says otherwise is Crazy and Not Our Class.....There's a lot of class-based folk wisdom of this variety, that the
self-declared "Smart Set" keeps repeating, *without ever having actually
thought much about it,* which really should be something a soi-disant
Smart Set does from the start, right?


You are wrong. Kathleen Parker told me so just recently and Peggy Noonan confirmed it.

Posted by: pep at March 06, 2015 04:13 PM (4nR9/)

174 *shoves consolation lemon bars through USB for andycanuck*


Results don't matter to the apologists. Only magical thinking.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 06, 2015 04:11 PM (xSCb6)


Everyone judges themselves by intentions and others by results.

Posted by: alexthechick - LIV ahoy! at March 06, 2015 04:13 PM (mf5HN)

175 "I don't want to be an asshole and re-open old wounds, but remember when the "Crazies" wanted to demote Boehner back in January, and said how crazy it was, and told the crazies to shut up, and were generally super-proud of themselves for not being so Crazy?"

Sorry, Ace, but some of us realized years ago that Boehner would never be ousted because the Democrats would step in and save his ass. Really, who was being the irrational one?

Posted by: Niccolo Machiavelli at March 06, 2015 04:13 PM (Eszro)

176 150 Bring back the Whigs!

www.modernwhig.org

Your welcome!

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at March 06, 2015 04:14 PM (nuU9P)

177 I've been warning John for years that kissing my ass so much was going to give him formaldehyde poisoning and turn his complexion orange.

But a girls gotta stay well preserved you know.... especially while out of her coffin.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at March 06, 2015 04:14 PM (t72+4)

178 It's okay, Alex. I'll just drown my sorrows in Tim's tomorrow. Probably all day long too.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 06, 2015 04:14 PM (JCdoo)

179 One time I got to use John's tanning bed. Really. His muskiness was all over it. True story.

Posted by: Peggy Nooner at March 06, 2015 04:14 PM (lG2E3)

180 "It is known," the slave girl translator on Game of Thrones always says about folk wisdom.



There's a lot of class-based folk wisdom of this variety, that the
self-declared "Smart Set" keeps repeating, *without ever having actually
thought much about it,* which really should be something a soi-disant
Smart Set does from the start, right?



Posted by: ace at March 06, 2015 04:10 PM (E+pqw)


Ooh! I love it when she gives the white haired dragon lady a bath. If I recall (and it known that when it comes to these books, I often do not), the books are a lot more explicit about these two dames sacking up together.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 06, 2015 04:14 PM (TOk1P)

181 Here's a question... Could the existing 170+ congressmen who voted against Boner en-mass decide to leave the Republican party and create a new conservative party overnight? Wouldn't that be the equivalent of an political ELE?

Posted by: Joshua at March 06, 2015 04:14 PM (oM6s/)

182
Remember "Your move, Senator Cruz!"?

That's what passes for political analysis now.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 06, 2015 04:15 PM (NitOS)

183 I'm pretty sure to within a high degree of certainty that if the Republican had the majority a veto proof majority in the senate and scott Walker in the White House we'd still get leftism.

Imagine that scenario and then imagine how much the GOP pukes in congress will wet themselves when the Donks and their FSA fill the mall and the steps of the capital to block President Walkers agenda.

History has shown the only way to affect change is direct in your face action, it really is.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 06, 2015 04:15 PM (IlUbl)

184 Remember when the rationale behind Chester Turtle becoming Senate GOPe Leader was that he was some sort of "tactical wizard", "brass-knuckles negotiator" and "parliamentary genius" who would have the Democrats spinning with his mastery of senate protocol and whatnot?

Yeah, those were some really good times.

Posted by: DocJ at March 06, 2015 04:15 PM (zrsn3)

185 Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 04:11 PM (QKIQb

I appreciate the humor ;^) but surely there are even more than two people from his district on this website and certainly more than two people from his district who don't like him. I don't do the whole Facebook thing, but for someone who did I bet you could attract some interest with a "Demote Boehner" page

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2015 04:16 PM (DXzRD)

186 I prefer Ace's floppy Weiner posts instead.

Posted by: george rr marrtin at March 06, 2015 04:16 PM (JCdoo)

187 The curse of Average Joe: DJIA -278.94(-1.54%)

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 04:17 PM (evdj2)

188 Castnood.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 06, 2015 04:17 PM (0NdlF)

189
Remember all the bullshit you heard on Yes, Minister by Nigel Hawthorne to explain to Paul Eddington why he couldn't do what seemed to be simple and common sense?

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 06, 2015 04:18 PM (NitOS)

190 181
Here's a question... Could the existing 170+ congressmen who voted
against Boner en-mass decide to leave the Republican party and create a
new conservative party overnight? Wouldn't that be the equivalent of an
political ELE?

Posted by: Joshua


They voted that way because they knew the Dems would put the bill over the top. It was a show vote. They would have voted differently if the Dems were opposed to the bill.

Posted by: pep at March 06, 2015 04:18 PM (4nR9/)

191 "Seriously, you people who pride yourselves as being The Thinkers and the Reasonable Ones should try thinking occasionally, and giving reason a try."

Wonderfully put, ace. I've said the same thing less well, either more or less vituperatively, in these comments for a long time.

It's not a completely over-lapped Venn diagram, but I get the strong sense that the worst apologists, or the most stead-fast Class Wisdom pushers, who tend to be the most dismissive, actually know the least about the way things actually work (I mean both mechanically, and politically).

It's not "argument from authority", but specific, concrete observations based on knowledge and experience, to point out that the now comical apologism for GOP behavior is not based on any actual familiarity with Congress or how it works. And I have never gotten the sense that the apologists (to use a broad brush, and to unintentionally add a polemic element) ever worked on the Hill, or on presidential campaigns (I don't mean attending fundraisers but high up on the substantive side of a campaign), or at any level inside the Beltway.

If you have, then the horror, damage, and outrage of what's been going on (and not just for the last 6 years, but especially those) are very palpable and in your face. And the passivity of the GOP (or worse) is much more evident.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 06, 2015 04:18 PM (afQnV)

192 You're going to leave me dangling here because of a nood thread about the effing podcast? Really? REALLY???

Posted by: george rr marrtin at March 06, 2015 04:18 PM (JCdoo)

193 Pod People!

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 04:18 PM (evdj2)

194 >>Kathleen Parker told me so just recently and Peggy Noonan confirmed it.

Heh. Exactly.
You can pretty much ID the "smart set" be whether they like or dislike Palin (or Cruz, I suppose). It's not about Palin being 'all that' so much as the fact that she just brings out the "Oh noes, we're not *that* kind of icky conservative!!!" response from them, thus showing their true colors.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 06, 2015 04:18 PM (lHHyw)

195 @183 I'm pretty sure to within a high degree of certainty that if the
Republican had the majority a veto proof majority in the senate and
scott Walker in the White House we'd still get leftism.


Probably. I mean, here's what the last 20+ years should have taught us. When the GOPe is in the minority they are utterly powerless to stop anything the Dems want to pass. While when the GOPe is in the majority they are utterly powerless to pass anything the Dems don't want to pass.

And the last time we had a GOPe CONgressional majority and a GOPe president? Yeah, not a pretty sight for believers in limited, constitutional government.

Posted by: DocJ at March 06, 2015 04:18 PM (zrsn3)

196 57 I remember well after the 2012 elections when the rest of us were mind fried becuase Obama won .

Boehner said He slept like a baby .

i think that was indicative of sumthin

Posted by: comrade willow at March 06, 2015 03:53 PM (nqBYe)



Oh yes, I remember that very well.

Posted by: rickl at March 06, 2015 04:19 PM (sdi6R)

197
After Nigel Hawthorne finished his eloquent rundown of bullshit, Paul Eddington would sit there looking dumbfounded and then nod.

That's us. We are Paul Eddington.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 06, 2015 04:19 PM (NitOS)

198 Well, it appears I'm no more competent than the house leadership. That link was supposed to be more specific than just YouBoob.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 06, 2015 04:19 PM (XmOA9)

199 Elect Walker. Then if house and senate go Dem but not enough for a super majority, Scott can keep the crazies under control long enough for a new party to take hold.

With a no nonsense conservative in the prezzy and WE put him there, recruitment will be easy.

By time for Walker reelection, we'd be strong enough to at least be a coalition with some of the more conservative GOP against the Dems.

By 2022 or 2024 a majority could be achieved.

{sigh} I only wish I'll be around for it to happen.

Good luck y'all but it IS doable.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 06, 2015 04:19 PM (zRby/)

200 >>>> 181 Here's a question... Could the existing 170+ congressmen who voted against Boner en-mass decide to leave the Republican party and create a new conservative party overnight? Wouldn't that be the equivalent of an political ELE?
Posted by: Joshua at March 06, 2015 04:14 PM (oM6s/)

Hmmmm. That's really an interesting idea. How do we do this? It would take a leader to make that happen, a Moses figure. Ted Cruz?

Posted by: L, Elle at March 06, 2015 04:19 PM (2x3L+)

201 Buzzion, I believe we must have read the same article. Yes immigration was the next up slap .

while lying in bed last night, i couldn't decide whether the R's were really fighting for Dems stances, Or the R's were all compromised by blackmail or soemthing.

Posted by: comrade willow at March 06, 2015 04:19 PM (nqBYe)

202
This, of course, means 218 Republicans have the guts to do this[/I\

*snort*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 06, 2015 04:20 PM (JtwS4)

203 He may be an asshole, but he's their asshole!

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 06, 2015 04:20 PM (zpZLP)

204 But, but, a third party would be reckless.

Posted by: eman at March 06, 2015 04:21 PM (aoHoW)

205 This right here tells ya who's interest the Weeping Boner really represents.

There is no two party system. Here's your proof.

Posted by: Saltyron at March 06, 2015 04:21 PM (i6shs)

206 Only now, at the end, do you understand. (evil grin)

Posted by: Emperor Palpitain at March 06, 2015 04:21 PM (J6suc)

207 144 Does that mean O will get "re-elected" with 110% of the vote?

Nah, nothing like that. More like Obama will throw out that pesky 22nd amendment and the house will think about discussing options.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 06, 2015 04:06 PM


Yep. It's not like he pays any attention to the rest of the Constitution; so why should a little thing like term limits get him down?

Then again, he might retire just so he could sponge off us for the rest of his life; nothing to do but play golf and earn big checks for reading the same stump speech off his teleprompter. In other words, pretty much like now, except he can live in Hawaii instead of DC.

Posted by: elaine at March 06, 2015 04:21 PM (Y0Piu)

208
I just need a few hundred million dollars and some broadcast air time.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 06, 2015 04:22 PM (CMkNk)

209 206 Only now, at the end, do you understand. (evil grin)
Posted by: Emperor Palpitain at March 06, 2015 04:21 PM (J6suc)


Didn't Joe Palpitain play for the Yankees in the 60's 70's?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 06, 2015 04:23 PM (CMkNk)

210 ace wants punitive politics. He named the National Restaurant Association for pushing amnesty.

Well, here's the board of directors.

http://tinyurl.com/odec63e

Plenty own businesses that can be boycotted and given shitty Yelp reviews that point out their greasy politics.


Posted by: Warden at March 06, 2015 04:23 PM (wHAYQ)

211
I see a lot of it on twitter.

Which is why you shouldn't cheat on us with the twitterz so much.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 06, 2015 04:23 PM (JtwS4)

212 >>I'm pretty sure to within a high degree of certainty that if the

Republican had the majority a veto proof majority in the senate and

scott Walker in the White House we'd still get leftism.


Yep, because we'd still have people like McCain compelled to demonstrate that he's the Last Reasonable Republican who wants to be sure the GOP cuts a fair deal with his friends across the aisle.

The long-serving Republicans are like old indoor cats to a-scared to venture out after years of comfort indoors. Change? Risk? *Yawn* I think I'll go back to napping on my comfy pillow by the bay window....

Posted by: Lizzy at March 06, 2015 04:23 PM (lHHyw)

213 I don't think Obama really wants to be Pres, again. I agree with Elaine. He just wants to go on the highly paid speaking circuit, have lifetime SS protection and be the kingmaker for the next President.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2015 04:24 PM (DXzRD)

214 Wouldn't we have to have a second party before we could form a third one?

Posted by: Thatch at March 06, 2015 04:24 PM (m/nBa)

215 If King Bambi manufactures a domestic crisis to declare martial law and assume dictatorial powers, I have zero confidence that the GOP will do anything to oppose him.

Zero.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 06, 2015 04:25 PM (lG2E3)

216 Here's a question... Could the existing 170+ congressmen who voted against Boner en-mass decide to leave the Republican party and create a new conservative party overnight? Wouldn't that be the equivalent of an political ELE?

See, when -I- bring these things up, nobody notices... -snif-snif-

But yeah, that's the best route to Project 1860: Calve it off from the moribund Whigpublicans. Don't neglect the state and local parties, either, kinda critical to getting and staying on ballots don'cha know.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented Christian Objectivist at March 06, 2015 04:25 PM (DT3rQ)

217 Whoops, that NRA info was from 2012. Oh, well. Same lobbying back then.

Posted by: Warden at March 06, 2015 04:25 PM (wHAYQ)

218 213 I don't think Obama really wants to be Pres, again. I agree with Elaine. He just wants to go on the highly paid speaking circuit, have lifetime SS protection and be the kingmaker for the next President.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2015 04:24 PM (DXzRD)



"Doing good is never done"

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 06, 2015 04:26 PM (WNERA)

219 Are we back over here?

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 04:27 PM (evdj2)

220 212 Posted by: Lizzy at March 06, 2015 04:23 PM (lHHyw)


Washington DC exists of and for a big centralized government. It is there to subsume the Constitution and the nation as founded, whether for ideological reasons or for profit or both.

It has been hijacked. It is gone. It will not fix itself from within.

The only non-violent solution is the Article V process. Beyond that, we either all knuckle under or openly revolt as a citizenry.

If that offends or frightens people, well too bad.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 06, 2015 04:27 PM (CMkNk)

221
I am. Podcats, my ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 06, 2015 04:28 PM (NitOS)

222 There is no hill to die on. We died in the valley.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 06, 2015 04:28 PM (W5DcG)

223 have lifetime SS protection and be the kingmaker for the next President.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 06, 2015 04:24 PM (DXzRD)

If I recall....

Didn't Clinton pass some law that all future presidents (after him) will only get SS protection for 10 years after they leave office?

And didn't Obama pass a law changing it back to lifetime protection for him and every pres going forward?

Sounds like the evil Bush got screwed on that one.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 06, 2015 04:28 PM (AkOaV)

224 Ace, and you think you're helping by going against the ranking Republican?

Ever heard of a 'wedge' issue?

Tea Billy liberturdians marginalize our power by picking fights THEY CAN'T WIN and then try to marginalize our power by marginalizing Boehner (like he had something to do with them getting their asses kicked?) and that leaves the door open for dimocrap filth to come in and say, "Don't worry, Johnny! We'll help you out!!" and piss Tea Billies off even more.

Tea Billy liberturdians get used by dimocraps a lot

Really a lot. And because they have an 'R' next to their names, we take the heat for their stupidity

A $20 whore at the Mardi Gras gets used less

dimocrap filth are laughing their asses off at us right now, thanks to Tea Billy liberturdian mobile home types.

Posted by: Uncle Rick at March 06, 2015 04:28 PM (ZbB1q)

225 Simple, central, pellucid example: "you can't shut the govt. down" (political reasons, media lynchings, etc.)

When we've reached the point we have (simply unhinged, corrupt, lawless major party - Dems; mostly lawless courts; lawless president; passive/pathetic electorate), there is literally no other possible check on presidential power than the $$$$$. It was always intended as the principal power of Congress, thus the need for spending bills to originate in the House, originally the closest to the people (direct election, 2-year terms). This is no random pattern or accident.

So if the Congress, and esp. the House - for whatever reason, real or confected -gives up the power of the purse, they are functionally irrelevant. And in the current context (not entirely new, but far worse than ever before) abjure use of the "shutdown", then you're done. No leverage. No place at the table.

It is that simple. Of course it's laughable to argue that a shutdown is politically infeasible, suicidal. It's never been the case. And wasn't the case this last time - if anything, the bizarre, ham-handed behavior of the admin. (compare to even Clinton admin. behavior in the 90s shutdowns) underlined how pathetic the GOP was. Blocking octogenarian Great Generation vets from their memorial on the Mall? Harassing people driving through national parks? Abusing elderly foreign tourists at Yellowstone like some east Bloc govt.? Jeebus. And THIS was the pinch-yourself spectacle that "forced" the GOP to back down?

Nope. And no, it didn't "cost the VA gubernatorial election". As exit polling (and common sense) - as opposed to pre-election *surveys* - clearly showed.

There is nothing smart, or clever, or well considered, or interesting about the endless facile rationales for inaction.

I don't monitor things closely, but have our worst apologists (some of whom, sadly, include some obviously very very sharp and well-informed commenters, something that's always puzzled me) been a lot scarcer and more diffident since the (breath-taking) collapse last week on amnesty?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 06, 2015 04:28 PM (afQnV)

226 Over and over we hear from the GOPe shills "there's nothing that Boehner and Mitch could do!"

I never heard the Dems saying "there's nothing Pelosi or Reid could do" when they were the majority

Posted by: kbdabear at March 06, 2015 04:29 PM (GrXXa)

227 Boehner asked to join Congressional Black Caucus. He accepts.

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 04:29 PM (Gcu5R)

228 This reminds me of the scene in Risky Business when Booger tells Tom Cruise to FUCK IT.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 06, 2015 03:50 PM (NitOS)


Glad to know I'm not the only one who remembers that guy solely for that Nerds role.

You also hollar out "D-Day!" every time you see Bruce McGill in something?

Shit, now that I think of it, I could never see Dennis Weaver as anything but Chester.

Posted by: jwpaine at March 06, 2015 04:29 PM (a3NCX)

229 dimocrap filth are laughing their asses off at us right now, thanks to Tea Billy liberturdian mobile home types.

I resent your implication that Boehner lives in a mobile home. He took the wheels off.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 04:30 PM (evdj2)

230 Posted by: Uncle Rick at March 06, 2015 04:28 PM (ZbB1q)

May your chains rest lightly upon you.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 06, 2015 04:30 PM (lG2E3)

231 >>Then again, he might retire just so he could sponge off us for the rest
of his life; nothing to do but play golf and earn big checks for reading
the same stump speech off his teleprompter.

I imagine Obama and Jarrett would love to have him stay in office if there was a way to officially delegate more of his work to allow for that.
Some kind of emergency that requires cancellation of the 2016 election + him appointing an "interim" manager to which he would direct the real work while he stays on "just to keep things stable." So control of the agenda w/out any of the work.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 06, 2015 04:30 PM (lHHyw)

232 Yeah. It's the Tea Party's fault.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 04:30 PM (MMC8r)

233 "Seriously, you people who pride yourselves as being The Thinkers and the Reasonable Ones should try thinking occasionally, and giving reason a try."

Tell me about it. - Birthers

Posted by: Birthers were right at March 06, 2015 04:30 PM (4t04h)

234 "more ammo"

Yeah ok buddy, that will solve the issues. I was thinking more along the lines of Alternative-Right media promotion and thought. This is a long term project, isnt going to be accomplished in a election cycle or two. First thing that has to be done (in my view) is get our message out on TV. Having our own alt-right network would help.

FAILURE is our ultimate ally. When the next financial crisis occurs, or the next terror attack, or the next anything that shows how complacent and fossilized (and corrupt) our governing regime is, it will allow an opportunity for new thinking. Now is the time to decide what ideas are really worth promoting and hashing out.

Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 04:31 PM (DWgda)

235 >>>>>Tea Billy liberturdians get used by dimocraps a lot

**************

You seem wicked clever. I bet you're always the most interesting guy at the bar.

Posted by: Warden at March 06, 2015 04:31 PM (wHAYQ)

236 224: Your "concern" is noted.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at March 06, 2015 04:31 PM (nuU9P)

237 80 I thought people here were done with the GOP?

Posted by: Thank You Obama at March 06, 2015 03:57 PM (/Ikyi)

Let me guess; you're one of those idiots who think that the guy/girl you've had the longtime hots for who is breaking up will come running to you

Posted by: kbdabear at March 06, 2015 04:32 PM (GrXXa)

238 Uncle Rick, thanks for stepping up and reminding us of how delusional, ignorant, and arrogant you sorts can be.

"fights you can't win" - name one thing that falls outside that category, you ignorant shill. You "win" over time, on big issues, and you win by tying your opponents to their least popular causes. If you think amnesty is not a weapon that can be used by the GOP to devastate the "dimocraps", you have not the slightest familiarity with national politics or political strategy.

"Liberturdians" - yep, tea party really, really skews uneducated, low-voter participation, lower income. One more example of your idiocy.

But Uncle Rick's not a good example, actually. He's not serious, more like a troll. We have much more serious apologists here who don't fling around Hector-like silliness and counter-factual slander.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 06, 2015 04:32 PM (afQnV)

239 Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 04:31 PM (DWgda)

TV stations are ludicrously expensive and notoriously hard to set up.

"alternative" media that did actual original reporting, but not under an "alternative media" banner would be more influential I think.

BUT the MSM media gatekeepers will immediately brand it racist, irrelevant, and full of whackjobs, and the LIVs will never read it.

So even then... Yeah, I don't know

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 06, 2015 04:33 PM (AkOaV)

240 You seem wicked clever. I bet you're always the most interesting guy at the bar.

Posted by: Warden


Well, certainly the loudest.

Posted by: pep at March 06, 2015 04:34 PM (4nR9/)

241 Fess up, Uncle Rick, you're the guy who invented that Faux News gem, aren't you? Well done, old chap. Well done.

Posted by: Warden at March 06, 2015 04:34 PM (wHAYQ)

242 Only Lamar Alexander can save us now.

/Uncle Rick

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 04:34 PM (MMC8r)

243 Obama and Boehner to play nine holes tomorrow. I'm sure of it.

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 04:35 PM (Gcu5R)

244 Just like every scandal in DC or any state capital involving a Democrat is immediately boomeranged around on the GOPe...

... the ineptitude of the GOPe is immediately blamed on the Tea Party.

Every time.

Posted by: DocJ at March 06, 2015 04:35 PM (zrsn3)

245 There is another.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at March 06, 2015 04:35 PM (evdj2)

246 Posted by: Uncle Rick at March 06, 2015 04:28 PM (ZbB1q)

Okay, so TEA Party and libertarian types pick fights they can't win and that the establishment doesn't want to win.

Easily solution... TEA Party and libertarian types just wont give votes and money to the GOPe anymore. They don't us, we don't want them.

We'll see how marginalized and unimportant us redneck trailer trash types really are in 2016.

Posted by: mynewhandle at March 06, 2015 04:35 PM (AkOaV)

247 FLEA FARTIERS AND FIBERTARIANS!

Posted by: Warden at March 06, 2015 04:36 PM (wHAYQ)

248 Let me guess; you're one of those idiots who think that the guy/girl you've had the longtime hots for who is breaking up will come running to you

Posted by: kbdabear at March 06, 2015 04:32 PM (GrXXa)


The Read my lips president bush didn't get reelected but nothing changed. I don't want them to run after me I want an Art 5 attempt first but I doubt it will come close to making it. Besides it would still be part of the same consititution they have on ignore now.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 06, 2015 04:36 PM (WNERA)

249 A solid majority in both houses is useless because Tea Party.

/MSNBC Republican

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 04:36 PM (MMC8r)

250
This was almost gonna be a great thread..

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 06, 2015 04:36 PM (NitOS)

251 Posted by: Warden at March 06, 2015 04:36 PM (wHAYQ)

Fuck, wish we'd thought of those...

Posted by: gop house staffers, errr i mean concerned citizens at March 06, 2015 04:36 PM (AkOaV)

252 Uncle Rick is one of those trolls who shits and runs. Of course he has to read all the responses back to him. Only way he can get off. Hope you have enough tissues. Watch out for Cheetos stains in your nether regions.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at March 06, 2015 04:37 PM (nuU9P)

253 Wait a minute, like Harrison Ford my engine broke and I was in danger of stalling. People and important agencies might have been hurt in the crash!

Instead, I bravely managed to pilot my damaged speakership to a safe golf-course landing. And, yes, thank you all, I am OK. Walked away safely in fact and I'm already drinking my second cocktail of the day in my office. My really nice office.

Posted by: Unity Speaker John "Harrison Ford" Boehner at March 06, 2015 04:37 PM (FCsIb)

254 Now that you mention it, freakish orange color isn't unusual for a fcuking muppet.

Posted by: Fritz at March 06, 2015 04:37 PM (dVmLD)

255 CONSERVATURDS AND NEO-KHANS!

NO, NEO-CONMEN! THAT'S THE ONE!!!!

Posted by: Warden at March 06, 2015 04:37 PM (wHAYQ)

256 146
Voting isnt going to save us. Writing letters isnt going to save us. Calling your congressional office isnt going to save us. Only the realization that we are a "republic in name only" might. To embrace the truth and reality of our situation may lead to viable solutions, the current framework/construct is completely incapable of turning this around because it misses the entire point of what our problems are.

Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 04:06 PM (DWgda)



Related: I linked this on the ONT.

"Laughing at the Death of our Republic"

https://tinyurl.com/p732m5m

It's short and very, very pertinent.

Posted by: rickl at March 06, 2015 04:38 PM (sdi6R)

257 Posted by: Warden at March 06, 2015 04:37 PM (wHAYQ)

Man, this guy is on a roll! Lets put him on the payroll! We can troll comments with 47% more efficiency with awesome one liners like that!!!

Posted by: gop house staffers, errr i mean concerned citizens at March 06, 2015 04:38 PM (AkOaV)

258 >>The only non-violent solution is the Article V process. Beyond that, we
either all knuckle under or openly revolt as a citizenry.
If that offends or frightens people, well too bad.


Yep. And it does scare the crap out of me - all of it.
But what else is there when conservatives voted in the mid-terms, achieved huge gains, and were then rewarded with....more RINO crap, more unchecked Obama overreach as if the election never happened?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 06, 2015 04:38 PM (lHHyw)

259
>>>First thing that has to be done (in my view) is get our message out on TV. Having our own alt-right network would help.

Then, like Beck or not, support the Blaze. Start there.

Posted by: circa 2002 at March 06, 2015 04:39 PM (3ZtZW)

260 Also, agree with you about the moar ammo thinger

Posted by: circa 2002 at March 06, 2015 04:39 PM (3ZtZW)

261 Me? I'm off for the Boehner trifecta: A $400 haircut, a trip to the tanning salon, and a bone dry.

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 04:40 PM (Gcu5R)

262 should be something a soi-disant Smart Set does from the start, right?

For someone that hairy you sure seem surprised at how close we still are to hooting from the trees.

Posted by: DaveA at March 06, 2015 04:41 PM (DL2i+)

263 Sokath, his eyes uncovered!

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 04:41 PM (evdj2)

264 I'm all for unseating Boehner even if it took voting Dem, but as I said above, the Dems want him there as well - it's not easy to knock off an incumbent who's supported by both sides of the uniparty.

But for amnesty, which is a huge but, Walker seems like a decent candidate thus far. Yet even if he's Reagan 2.0, he wouldn't be enough when his whole party is in the tank for Big Gov't. Reagan himself only moved the needle a short way to the right again, and we've obviously lost those gains.

I'm for third party first, Article V second, and everything else is lower priority.

A two-term President Walker could even prove a setback if he manages to right the sinking ship just enough so people go back to sleep. Eight years of slower disintegration, after which everyone decides that, like Greece, they've done their austerity purgatory and we can go back to free shit heaven.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 04:41 PM (QKIQb)

265 I just learned that Warden is John Boehner.

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 04:42 PM (Gcu5R)

266 Tea Billy liberturdians marginalize our power by picking fights THEY CAN'T WIN

One of the first displays of utter incompetence of the 115th CONgress was the failure of the House to pass a ban on using tax dollars to fund late-term abortions - such a ban is supported 2:1, even among the LIV of the US of A.

But yeah, it's the Tea Party dragging the GOPe constantly into fights it can't win. Don't bother trying to understand why "the can't win" and why you never, ever hear that about the Democrat caucus. That's obviously well above your pay grade, sparky.

Posted by: DocJ at March 06, 2015 04:42 PM (zrsn3)

267
He now has to play to them; they have leverage on him.

I'm sorry, what? Boehner has more in common with the Democrats in Congress than he does with anyone to the right of Steny Hoyer, so...

Not to mention that the establishment in both parties have more in common with each other than they do with their so-called constituents. Look no further than Amnesty to see were the goals align even if the reasons do not.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at March 06, 2015 04:43 PM (1hM1d)

268 Now, now. Best thing about this board (besides Ace and the cobs o'course) has always been its star-wars-bar full representation of all the right's freaky variety, from RINO to revanchist.

The fact that the 'stablishes are wrong doesn't mean they're not welcome, right? Just that they gotta eat some crow.

Posted by: Knemon at March 06, 2015 04:43 PM (Wt4Uz)

269 Knee oh Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnn!

Posted by: Kirk at March 06, 2015 04:44 PM (W5DcG)

270
WWIII is about to kick off,why not cool it on the revolution BS

Posted by: kj at March 06, 2015 04:44 PM (lKyWE)

271 This is going to be very hard. VERY HARD.

When people no longer care about being called names (racist, anti-semite, homophobe, bigot, xenophobe ect,) then we will be able to engage on an equal footing.

Allowing Progs to define the limits of what we can say is half the reason why we are in shape we are in.

FAILURE is coming. The next few years could be as bad for the US as 1991 was for the Soviet Union.

What do we really believe in?

"divesity is our strength" "islam is peace" "nation building"
"50 shades of faggotry" "white privledge"

^^^^^ is not long for this world, start thinking about the truth and how we promote it before the real failure gets here.

Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 04:44 PM (DWgda)

272
Don't bother trying to understand why "the can't win" and why you never, ever hear that about the Democrat caucus. That's obviously well above your pay grade, sparky.

Yeah, he's only paid to post snark on certain websites.

Back to Boehner, I'm reminded of a maxim: if you're not willing to shell your own position, you're not willing to win.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at March 06, 2015 04:44 PM (1hM1d)

273 If Boner had a shred of integrity, wouldn't this make him resign immediately? If?

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 04:45 PM (MMC8r)

274 Walker/Jindal
Jindal/Walker

Either way sounds pretty good.

Posted by: Knemon at March 06, 2015 04:46 PM (Wt4Uz)

275
A kick the wets in the cojos thread? Permit me to participate:

In my estimation, the only thing of which Mitch McConnell and John Boehner have been guilty in the past few years is to have worked tirelessly within political reality and to have reacted sensitively to the hands that they were dealt.

By Charles C. W. Cooke

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 06, 2015 04:46 PM (kdS6q)

276 Hmm...

Huff-Po is apparently running a story with a headline focusing on a Republican lawmaker who claims that wolves could take care of the homeless problem. Does anyone know what that's all about? I'd prefer not to reward Huff-Po for click bait.

Posted by: junior at March 06, 2015 04:47 PM (UWFpX)

277 FAILURE is coming. The next few years could be as bad for the US as 1991 was for the Soviet Union.

Oh, I suspect it will be far, far worse here. Once the USSR broke up you were left with, more-or-less, homogeneous (culturally, at least) states. There simply isn't anything like that here. The cities are going to become absolute killing fields once the EBT cards don't work anymore, and the suburbs will be quickly overrun by hungry, angry hordes (freedom is just another word for "got nothing left to lose").

Posted by: DocJ at March 06, 2015 04:48 PM (zrsn3)

278 I'm cashing out and moving to the southern border of Costa Rica. At least the weather and sunsets will be cool.

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 04:48 PM (Gcu5R)

279 Drudge headling "Pelosi shows how to wield power despite GOP majority." More like "Boehner shows how to yield power despite GOP majority." Pelosi's not exactly a chessmaster, but anyone can win a rigged game. Thus far he's getting away with disenfranchising half of the country.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 04:49 PM (QKIQb)

280 270
WWIII is about to kick off,why not cool it on the revolution BS
Posted by: kj at March 06, 2015 04:44 PM (lKyWE)



I've been saying for a long time that we may very well get World War III and Civil War II simultaneously.

Posted by: rickl at March 06, 2015 04:49 PM (sdi6R)

281 Tea Billy liberturdian mobile home types.

No - Fuck You!

Posted by: DaveA at March 06, 2015 04:49 PM (DL2i+)

282 By Charles C. W. Cooke

Fcking foreigner.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 04:49 PM (evdj2)

283 @275 All I need to know to never have to bother reading Charles C. W. Cooke ever again.

Posted by: DocJ at March 06, 2015 04:49 PM (zrsn3)

284 >>Obama and Boehner to play nine holes tomorrow. I'm sure of it.

Nope. Ten holes. The last one is very special.

Posted by: Barry Obama at March 06, 2015 04:49 PM (sQzB6)

285 Posted by: DocJ at March 06, 2015 04:48 PM (zrsn3)



Valid thoughts, I think it will happen before obama leaves office--I have my reasons. Or it will be after the looting and selling of everything of value and they are well and truly out of money. The financial collapse by my definition. You may have another one.

OR

The SMOD arrives or yellowstone or.....

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 06, 2015 04:51 PM (WNERA)

286 276. Probably was Congressman Frank Wolf stating that he'd like to help the homeless find food and shelter.

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 04:51 PM (Gcu5R)

287 Outlets like NRO are completely useless. Williamson is the only voice worth listening to and i suspect he lurks all over the alt-right media.

Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 04:51 PM (DWgda)

288 #284. Is that a sand wedge or a driver?

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 04:53 PM (Gcu5R)

289 @287 Concur. Most everyone else at NRO is borderline unreadable. May as well re-up my Boston Glob subscription.

Posted by: DocJ at March 06, 2015 04:53 PM (zrsn3)

290 Teabilly liberturdians?

Kay in Maine is going to be so jealous she didn't think of that one first

Posted by: Han Yolo at March 06, 2015 04:55 PM (t72+4)

291 277
The cities are going to become absolute killing fields once the EBT cards don't work anymore, and the suburbs will be quickly overrun by hungry, angry hordes (freedom is just another word for "got nothing left to lose").

Posted by: DocJ at March 06, 2015 04:48 PM (zrsn3)



My take is slightly different. The cities are full of FSA and rich liberals, while the rural areas are mostly conservatives and patriots.

The suburbs have both, in various mixtures. They could turn out to be the front lines in the next civil war.

Posted by: rickl at March 06, 2015 04:55 PM (sdi6R)

292 Nice of the usual suspects not to notice when the Democrats are trolling them.

Ace included.


Democrats obviously can't beat the Republicans and take back the House in actual elections, and probably won't even sniff the majority until after the 2020 census, and maybe not even then. So, what better thing to do than get the Republicans to destroy themselves? Because the first thing the largest Republican majority since Coolidge should do is the old circular firing squad.

You know the thing you dead-ender "true Cons" are always accusing the moderates of, being willing to be in the minority if that minority didn't include people like you? Guess what? That's exactly what you, and self-important douches like Erick Erickson, are constantly doing, fighting to be the minority, just without any moderates.

Same shit, different wing of the party. Maybe each wing of the party will pull their heads from their asses and realize the Democrats are the fucking enemy.


Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 06, 2015 04:58 PM (ljZD2)

293 I'm calling in air strikes on Detroit, Chicago, and Washington, D.C.

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 04:58 PM (Gcu5R)

294 "By Charles C. W. Cooke"

Cooke's not one of the bad guys, necessarily, just dead wrong on this. Delingpole's cluefucked on the Tea Party as well. Even conservative Brits have a skewed idea of how American politics works and what's really possible vs. what's theater. Cooke's good on the first two amendments, but I don't trust his judgment on domestic politics to any extent.

I'm the one hyping UKIP as a model for an American third party, but if you read up on their actual policy platform, it doesn't look all that conservative. Where Charles and James consider UKIP hard right Thatcherites. it's not surprising they're tut-tutting over we bumptuous hobbits and wishing we'd respect our betters. Not bad guys, but good examples of how Brits were Americans who lacked the convictions to take things to a more logical "extreme."

Steyn's a better example of a Commonwealth citizen who gets this "liberty" thing.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 04:59 PM (QKIQb)

295 With allies like Lowry, Cooke, J-Pod, and the rest we will run in circles forever.

NRO had an article questioning Rand Paul commitment to Israel because he wasnt clapping enthuiastically enough. I mean thats the shit they used to pull during Stalin's reign.

NRO is beyond parody @ this point

Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 04:59 PM (DWgda)

296 >>Is that a sand wedge or a driver?

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts

Ball retriever.

Posted by: Barry Obama at March 06, 2015 04:59 PM (sQzB6)

297 Maybe each wing of the party will pull their heads from their asses and realize the Democrats are the f****** enemy.




Posted by: trumpetdaddy


So, John Boehner then. I believe that's what we've been saying.

Posted by: pep at March 06, 2015 05:00 PM (4nR9/)

298 #292. Career politicians are the enemy.

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 05:01 PM (Gcu5R)

299
Posted by: trumpetdaddy




How's the job at DHS going?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 06, 2015 05:02 PM (kdS6q)

300 Maybe each wing of the party will pull their heads from their asses and realize the Democrats are the fucking enemy.

Tell it to Boner and McConnell, douchenozzle. They're the ones that don't seem to think so.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 05:02 PM (MMC8r)

301 I'm late to the party, but this actually weakens Boehner's hand.

If you can mount a real challenge, challenge him. And make him be re-elected by Democrats. He won't do it. (We had a PA Speaker of the House elected that way. Unless you're just in it for the pension boost - like the PA guys was - it's not worth it.)

Posted by: CJ at March 06, 2015 05:03 PM (ekQi1)

302 ""Because the first thing the largest Republican majority since Coolidge should do is the old circular firing squad....Maybe each wing of the party will pull their heads from their asses and realize the Democrats are the fucking enemy."

Did Boehner and McConnell cave on the Cromnibus, Obamacare and amnesty because "circular firing squad" ? I'm calling bullshit.

The guy who supports the people who collaborate with the Dems is lecturing we "dead-enders" about who the real enemy is?

Your boys have "the largest majority since Coolidge," and they haven't done shit to implement an agenda. They're too busy "focusing on Hillary" to take any concrete step toward shrinking government, grow the economy or revive our sorry international standing, beyond inviting Bibi to take fire for them from a media they're too chickenshit to face on their own.

A circular firing squad can do more damage to the enemy by accident than a well-ordered line deliberately holding fire, much less one that retreats at the first sight of enemy recon.

?

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 05:08 PM (QKIQb)

303 Jeb Bush is the answer. What the hell was the question?

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 05:09 PM (Gcu5R)

304 John Boehner is no Democrat. I'm speaking as someone who saw his very first run for Congress 25 years ago and live in an adjacent CD. You don't always get everything you want and the job of Speaker is lot different than the job of being a single rep from an overwhelmingly conservative CD. He's been both and each has different pressures and skill-sets.

Secondly, "career politicians" is an empty talking point. Scott Walker is a "career politician." I hope to hell he is the next president of the USA. Saying something like, "career politicians are the enemy" is the opposite of being thoughtful, because people sometimes have a career doing something, including politics, because they are pretty fucking good at that job.

If what you really mean is, "I don't like the way this person has been a career politician and this why," then say that. Harry Reid comes to mind. But blindly knocking people who are 80-95% on your side ideologically because they are good enough at the job to keep the job is mindless.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 06, 2015 05:09 PM (ljZD2)

305 C W Cooke is the worst of the GOPe media big brains.

He constantly and gratuitously slams Palin.

Do not like that clown at all.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 06, 2015 05:10 PM (IlUbl)

306 Boehner is Pelosi's chihuahua. And he likes her peanut butter.

Posted by: Eromero at March 06, 2015 05:10 PM (go5uR)

307 My rep is Tim Murphy here in PA 12. I will vote democrat next election. He voted for Boehner and he voted to allow executive amnesty. He is no different than a democrat as far as I'm concerned - either that or he's an naive idiot. It's a rural district - what businesses we do have here will see no benefit whatsoever to cheap labor of immigrants.

Posted by: reality man at March 06, 2015 05:11 PM (BNEdd)

308 John Boehner is no Democrat.

Which is why he just funded Barry's extra-constitutional invasion.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:11 PM (evdj2)

309 Because, Principles.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:11 PM (evdj2)

310 Then again, maybe they're just blackmailing the shit out of Boner and don't want him to go anywhere.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 05:12 PM (MMC8r)

311 @301

If the conservatives unite and take him out in the backrooms I don't think there is any way Boehner takes it to the floor.


Boehners got to go and next is that little shit McConnel.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 06, 2015 05:12 PM (IlUbl)

312 John Boehner is no Democrat.

But he plays one on TV.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 05:12 PM (MMC8r)

313 #304. John Boehner is no Democrat. Tell the Democrats that.

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 05:14 PM (Gcu5R)

314 the job of Speaker is lot different than the job of being a single rep
from an overwhelmingly conservative CD. He's been both and each has
different pressures and skill-sets.


The evidence is clear. Boehner lacks the skill set needed for Speaker.

Posted by: pep at March 06, 2015 05:14 PM (4nR9/)

315 Quote: "WWIII is about to kick off,why not cool it on the revolution BS."


I will do no such thing so long as I breath.

to put it another way... try and fucking make me.

Posted by: HempRopeAndStreetlight at March 06, 2015 05:14 PM (bG5t+)

316 No revolt against Boehmer is real unless it's willing to reverse the formula--the TP combines with the Dims to make PELOSI Speaker again.

Then instead of him being beholden to them, she'd be beholden to us.

We could depose her anytime she tried to go out of bounds.

I swear we'd get better service than we're getting now.

Posted by: Bildung at March 06, 2015 05:15 PM (PK//T)

317 John Boehner=Career politician= bought and sold.

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 05:16 PM (Gcu5R)

318 "Secondly, "career politicians" is an empty talking point. Scott
Walker is a "career politician." I hope to hell he is the next president
of the USA. Saying something like, "career politicians are the enemy"
is the opposite of being thoughtful, because people sometimes have a
career doing something, including politics, because they are pretty
fucking good at that job.'

Because government and elections are ruthlessly efficient examples of advancement by merit?

How is it "thoughtful" to assume that that a politician has his job because he's "pretty fucking good at it"

Was Lord Acton being a "dead ender" spouting "empty talking points" when he noted what power does over time?

Put some skin in the game - name something Boehner has achieved that someone else couldn't. Otherwise this is just standing by your man, Kool-Aid in hand.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 05:16 PM (QKIQb)

319 I think the Dems are just doing this to "tweek" Republicans...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 06, 2015 05:17 PM (Bn6aD)

320 @314

When you lead your caucus into disasters of your own making time after time after time ad nauseum and you allow easy lollipop layup be smacked back into your face time after time after time ad nauseum, you just might not be up to the task of leading.

The man does not have a single victory on his belt.

The man is a hack backbencher and no damn leader.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 06, 2015 05:18 PM (IlUbl)

321 If the guy who just got handed a fat majority can't get anything done but 100% of what the minority wants, you aren't cut out for the job.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 05:18 PM (MMC8r)

322 Or 'he isn't.' Meh.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 05:19 PM (MMC8r)

323 Some people have to figure out what they want out of politics.

If what you're looking for is some kind of adolescent emotional catharsis, then go be a damned Democrat. Frankly, that's what all this bitching seems like to me.

"Wah, wah, wah, The Republicans in Congress haven't thrown mudpies at Obama's head and made him cry. I'm gonna take my ball and go home. Wah, wah, wah."

"Mitch McConnell thinks restoring the historical protections in the Senate for the rights of the minority are more important than sticking it to the Mexicans on a bill that would be veto-ed anyway. Wah, wah, wah. I wanted to stick it to the Mexicans. And Obama, too. Wah, wah. wah!"

"John Boehner didn't want to get in the way of the implosion of Obama administration by shutting the government down so I could see the Mexicans get it stuck to them, like the good little nativist I am. Wah, wah, wah!"

"Gimme, gimme, gimme, my emotional catharsis NOW! I got a golden ticket, didn't I, dammit! I want my Wonka bar!"

Grow the fuck up.


Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 06, 2015 05:20 PM (ljZD2)

324 Scott Walker was shilling for amnesty right up until the point where he thought about seeking higher office. Only then did he "see the light."

If hes elected i gaurantee he will find a way not to undo Obama exec amnesty and then we can come onto the net and write things like "moar ammo"

Ask yourself this, especially you guys over 40, When was the last time your did a complete 180 on an issue of the scale and magnitutde like Amnesty?

I betting not very often. Im not out to bash Walker. I like the guy, I WANT to BELIEVE but logic gets the better of me everytime.

Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 05:20 PM (DWgda)

325 And dumbfuck plays the race card.

He's really counting on the $2/hr yard work.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 05:21 PM (MMC8r)

326 It's unfair to call Boehner a failure.

We don't know what he was really trying to do.

We only know what he SAID he was trying to do.

Or what others said he would do.

I think he's planned this all out and it's the public stuff that's the spin.

Too bad for him it doesn't matter to many here as the results are what we're mad about not whether he meant to do it or not.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 06, 2015 05:21 PM (zRby/)

327 Some people have to figure out what they want out of politics.

I would like my agenda advanced. Boehner isn't doing it, either through incompetency, or because it's not his agenda. Which is determinate is irrelevant.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:23 PM (evdj2)

328 "
I think the Dems are just doing this to "tweek" Republicans..."

I agree they're saying this to fan the flames, but I also believe it's true. The two aren't mutually exclusive

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 05:23 PM (QKIQb)

329 "I would like my agenda advanced."


Then run for office your damn self.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 06, 2015 05:24 PM (ljZD2)

330 Then run for office your damn self.

Are you, in fact, brain damaged?

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:24 PM (evdj2)

331 263 Sokath, his eyes uncovered!

Shakka, when the walls fell..

Posted by: Joshua at March 06, 2015 05:25 PM (AUZJW)

332 No, I just have a realistic expectation of what a politician's job description is.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 06, 2015 05:25 PM (ljZD2)

333 From 323, I Democrats really do want Boehner. Really badly.

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 05:26 PM (Gcu5R)

334 How on Earth is opposing importing the entire Third World into the U.S. "sticking it to the Mexicans"?

Nobody is advocating "sticking it" to anybody.

Mexicans have an entire country of their own. It's called Mexico.

Posted by: rickl at March 06, 2015 05:26 PM (sdi6R)

335 No, I just have a realistic expectation of what a politician's job description is.

Elaborate then.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:27 PM (evdj2)

336 I think Trumpetdaddy's on the editorial board of the WSJ.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 05:27 PM (MMC8r)

337 Grow the f*** up.


Posted by: trumpetdaddy


Self-awareness is not strong in this one.

Posted by: pep at March 06, 2015 05:28 PM (4nR9/)

338 My representatives job is to represent my views. I don't need a king or lord, even an elected one.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:28 PM (evdj2)

339 How on Earth is opposing importing the entire Third World into the U.S. "sticking it to the Mexicans"?


I'm targeting the Guatemalans. Those bastards stole my bike.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 05:28 PM (MMC8r)

340
Posted by: trumpetdaddy




Concern Status
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[ ] Not Noted
[X] Noted

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 06, 2015 05:28 PM (kdS6q)

341 "Grow the fuck up."

Name something - not a platitude like "restoring historic protections...blah blah" - what have they done? All you do is spout hyperbole and name-call - where's the beef? What are those realistic, hard-nosed results we should all shut up and be happy with?

You aren't naming them because you don't have shit to say outside your "angry reasonable man" schtick. For someone who's a realist, you seem to be short on real arguments, and awfully upset when your magical thinking and cargo cult bromides don't serve to sell your BS.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 05:28 PM (QKIQb)

342 "How on Earth is opposing importing the entire Third World into the U.S."

A flame thrower in a field of strawmen.


I guess I, along with the entire rest of the American public, missed which politician of any party was advocating this.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 06, 2015 05:29 PM (ljZD2)

343 I'm sure that there is some success that Boehner has had as Speaker. I can't think of one but perhaps some others could come up with one.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:29 PM (evdj2)

344 "Then run for office your damn self."

Give me a fucking break. Really?

"Don't criticize my BFF politician - could you do better? Run yourself!"

You sound like you could use a nice orange nipple right about now.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 05:30 PM (QKIQb)

345 343
I'm sure that there is some success that Boehner has had as Speaker. I
can't think of one but perhaps some others could come up with one.


I've heard the curtains in his office are lovely.

Posted by: pep at March 06, 2015 05:30 PM (4nR9/)

346 *drums fingers*

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:30 PM (evdj2)

347 I'm sure that there is some success that Boehner has had as Speaker. I can't think of one but perhaps some others could come up with one.

We have many!

Posted by: The Democrats at March 06, 2015 05:31 PM (MMC8r)

348 I guess I, along with the entire rest of the American public, missed which politician of any party was advocating this.

They're not advocating it. They're doing it.

Posted by: rickl at March 06, 2015 05:31 PM (sdi6R)

349 Really though, why is everything centering on Boehner? Sure, he's proven useless in his role but the real villain is McConnell, IMO.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:31 PM (evdj2)

350 Isn't "Then run yourself' just a version of the 'chickenhawk' argument, but less reality-based?

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 05:32 PM (MMC8r)

351 "My representatives job is to represent my views."

Nope. Thank you for playing.

A Congressman's job, and what keeps him in office, is to represent the views of the majority of people in his district, and give his district his best judgement on the things on which he disagrees with the people in his district, but mostly to represent the majority in the district. If you are outside the majority in his district, why is that his fault?

He's not your personal bitch.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 06, 2015 05:32 PM (ljZD2)

352 I want to see Senate Republicans angried up more that Representatives.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:32 PM (evdj2)

353

He's not your personal bitch.


He's MINE.

Posted by: BHO at March 06, 2015 05:33 PM (MMC8r)

354 Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 06, 2015 05:29 PM (ljZD2)

That's because you were so busy preening in front of the mirror you missed reading between the lines.

No one. REPEAT NO ONE could think that saying you were going to stop deporting illegals, stop turning them back at the border, aiding them in getting work permits and licenses, driving them to different cities wouldn't encourage others to attempt to cross into the US.

It wasn't SAID out loud because of PC which is just a different way of saying TRUTHS we can't talk about.

You need to take a break and rethink your position.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 06, 2015 05:33 PM (zRby/)

355 If he's not representing my views, he is, by definition, not my representative. He's my opponent. Why are you faulting me for not supporting my political opponent?

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:34 PM (evdj2)

356 If the conservatives unite and take him out in the backrooms I don't think there is any way Boehner takes it to the floor.
Boehners got to go and next is that little shit McConnel.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 06, 2015 05:12 PM (IlUbl)

--

And the Democrat endorsement makes such a backroom vote more likely.


Cutting to the chase: If enough Republicans think they can take him out, they should put up or shut up. He won't allow himself to be re-elected by Democrats.


Posted by: CJ at March 06, 2015 05:34 PM (ekQi1)

357 >>"Then run for office your damn self."

IIRC, when we were in the minority in Congress and Senate we were told to get Republicans elected, get a majority if you want to set the agenda.

We did.

So....now that we're upset that the GOP majorities are not stopping the Democrat's agenda we need to get ourselves elected?

Goalposts moved much?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 06, 2015 05:34 PM (lHHyw)

358 #351. And when that doesn't work, re-draw the district. Just ask Steny Hoyer.

Posted by: Boehner'sTearDucts at March 06, 2015 05:35 PM (Gcu5R)

359 Another taste of history, Johnny Boehner's participation in the 1997 attempted coup against Speaker Gingrich.

" On July 9 Armey, DeLay, Boehner and Paxon gathered for the first of several secret meetings to discuss the brewing rebellion. The next night, DeLay met with 20 rebels in the offices of Oklahoma's Steve Largent. At first, DeLay was coy. Then he warned that if the rebels were going to act, they had better do so quickly, because their plot was about to leak. "Is everybody prepared to go ahead with this?" he asked. At that point, Indiana's Mark Souder turned the question around. "Are you with us?" According to several participants, DeLay was clearly speaking for the others when he answered yes. The leaders seemed on board.

The plan was to have Armey, DeLay, Boehner and Paxon present Gingrich with a fait accompli: step aside or be voted out by parliamentary maneuver. What happened next is murky. By some accounts, when DeLay reported back to his fellow leaders later that Thursday night, he brought news that the rebels wanted Gingrich to be succeeded by Paxon, not Armey, who was next in line. Early Friday, Armey told his colleagues that he spent the night "praying with my wife" and decided he could not support the coup. "When Armey realized he wasn't going to be Speaker, he backed out," insists a knowledgeable source. "
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/07/21/time/gingrich.html

Now, please supporters of Speaker Johnny, tell me with a straight face that Boehner deserves any kind of loyalty from conservatives because he is a wonderful person.

Posted by: wg at March 06, 2015 05:35 PM (Lq0lz)

360 I guess I, along with the entire rest of the American public, missed which politician of any party was advocating this.


Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 06, 2015 05:29 PM (ljZD2)


There are Bills in the Senate, which would take ALL limits off of H1B visas...

Andddd... they are also talking about TRIPLING LEGAL immigration...

As we allow 1 Million per year in Legally now... with a 325 million population.... over 32 years (a modern generation) the existing limits mean you have 10% of the population foreign born...

Now... triple that..... and over a generation you have about 1/3 of the population foreign born...

NO society can assimilate that amount of people...

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 06, 2015 05:35 PM (qh617)

361 "Sure, he's proven useless in his role but the real villain is McConnell, IMO."

Not letting either one off the hook, but Boehner's the one with the power of the purse, which he doesn't even need the Senate to use. He could have been drawing lines and forcing concessions since 2010 by refusing to originate revenue legislation. I'd rather have a strong Speaker than a Senate majority any day. We have neither, of course, but Boehner's Public Enemy 1A to Mitch's 1B.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 05:36 PM (QKIQb)

362 Well, if you were a prominent Democrat in the House, and looking at the last vote on the DHS, and knowing you were in the minority and likely will be for some years, wouldn't you troll the Republicans and say somthing like this?

It's not that Boehner isn't a lousy Speaker, because he is. It isn't that he won't take a difficult stand on issues, because he won't. But the Democrats are messing with us on this.

If they were clever and wanted to fracture the Republican caucus, this is what they would do.

Boehner is not clever and doesn't have the tactical smarts to outplay the Democrats. So let's hand any advantage away and split the caucus and give control back to the Democrats.

It's a plan. Let's go.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... waiting for spring at March 06, 2015 05:36 PM (RFeQD)

363 A Congressman's job, and what keeps him in office, is to represent the
views of the majority of people in his district, and give his district
his best judgement on the things on which he disagrees with the people
in his district, but mostly to represent the majority in the district.
If you are outside the majority in his district, why is that his fault?


As you have already said, the jobs of Speaker and a generic Congressman are very different. We're talking about removing him as Speaker because of his demonstrated incompetence.

If the good people of Ohio then reelect him for Congress, I guess that's up to them.

Posted by: pep at March 06, 2015 05:37 PM (4nR9/)

364 I don't think the Republican Congress has advanced my views one inch in the last 4 years. Perhaps some are satisfied to imagine that things would be worse without them, and perhaps they would, but a slide into the abyss remains a slide, even when slowed.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:37 PM (evdj2)

365 @362 Exactly right.

But some people are too hung up on their own little, personal crusade against the "RINOs" and anybody who doesn't hate Mexicans as much as they do, to see that they are being played by the Dems. Played like a fucking violin.


Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 06, 2015 05:38 PM (ljZD2)

366 Hector?

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:39 PM (evdj2)

367 But some people are too hung up on their own little, personal crusade
against the "RINOs" and anybody who doesn't hate Mexicans as much as
they do, to see that they are being played by the Dems.


I was treating you as an earnest commenter. A loon, but an earnest one. I did not understand that you were trolling. My apologies.

Posted by: pep at March 06, 2015 05:40 PM (4nR9/)

368 "If you are outside the majority in his district, why is that his fault?"

Sometimes its hard to be a Daddy

Giving all your love to just one man

You'll have bad times

And he'll have good times

Doing things that you don't understand

But if you love him you'll forgive him

Even though he's hard to understand

And if you love him

Oh be proud of him

'Cause after all he's just a man

Stand by your man

Give him two arms to cling to

And something warm to come to

When nights are cold and lonely...

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 05:40 PM (QKIQb)

369 Hector?

It's like Hector learned to write more than two sentences.

Posted by: BHO at March 06, 2015 05:40 PM (MMC8r)

370 You guys hate Mexicans.

Trumpetdaddy says so.

Posted by: Warden at March 06, 2015 05:41 PM (wHAYQ)

371 It is important to remember that the Republican Party is not a conservative party, per se. Conservatives really have no major party to support them, or to support.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:42 PM (evdj2)

372 What has the GOP accomplished so far with their new majority?

What is their agenda?

How are they serving their constituents?

Why did they promise to fight, fight, fight against Obama's executive amnesty then cave?

Who cares? You hate Mexicans.

Posted by: Warden at March 06, 2015 05:42 PM (wHAYQ)

373 and so we are always left in the same place; what is to be done?

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:42 PM (evdj2)

374 Some of my best friends would be Mexican, if I had any friends.

Posted by: Ronster at March 06, 2015 05:43 PM (ymjdW)

375 I don't have friends, just drinking buddies.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:43 PM (evdj2)

376 "You guys hate Mexicans.
Trumpetdaddy says so."

I didn't have to say it.

Just read the comments threads on any day that ends in a "y." Illegal immigrants aren't living in SoCal or Texas. They're living rent-free in the heads of several dozen commenters on this web-site.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 06, 2015 05:43 PM (ljZD2)

377 Mitch McConnell was super concerned with preserving Senate tradition, but not at all concerned with Obama's unconstitutional power grab, right trumpetdaddy?

Posted by: Warden at March 06, 2015 05:43 PM (wHAYQ)

378 which reminds me, it's beer thirty.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:44 PM (evdj2)

379 2/3 of Americans, not just Republicans, oppose amnesty and Obamacare. I have a very hard time believing southwest OH has a majority of the dissident 1/3. And if it does, why does the GOP have a Speaker who represents a district out of touch with 2/3 of the country?

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 05:44 PM (QKIQb)

380 Trumpetdaddy rapes little boys. Ignore him. He's garbage.

No one has to listen to a filthy pedo.

Posted by: Warden at March 06, 2015 05:44 PM (wHAYQ)

381 And no, I don't like Boehner as Speaker. I think he should go or be voted out.

I wrote a very polite e-mail to my Congressman, Pat Tiberi earlier this winter when there was talk of unseating Boehner as Speaker.
I urged him to vote against Boehner as Speaker.

He (or his staff) replied with a nice e-mail, quoting an article from the Cato Institute "defending" Boehner. This was a canned response, as I suspect they got a LOT of e-mails just like mine. Hmmmmm.......

By the way, Tiberi vote with the rump of the Republican Caucus and the majority Democrats last week on DHS funding. I don't think I will be voting for him again in 2016.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... waiting for spring at March 06, 2015 05:44 PM (RFeQD)

382 You know what Mexicans I hate most?

NEW Mexicans.

Frikkin' neo-wetbacks. What kind of person names their cities with more than one 'q'?

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 05:45 PM (MMC8r)

383 Fare thee well Republican Toadys.

Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:45 PM (evdj2)

384 I don't think the Republican Congress has advanced
my views one inch in the last 4 years.
Posted by: toby928(C) at March 06, 2015 05:37 PM (evdj2)

Try the last 16 years. All of which I voted for Republicans.

Every. Damn. Time.

And look what they did with it.

I thought something was up when Gingrich got railroaded. Then we had the Clinton years and all that and they actually impeached the lying bastard clinton.

Then Bush got elected and I thought; "great, here we go". Now I know 9/11 happened in there but that's no excuse for what went on.

Still I kept voting for the GOP. The last two times against my better judgment but I knew Obama would be a disaster.

And now, here we are. He's been one and more and the GOP were given a second chance and they turned around and pissed on our shoes.

So. Fcuk them with a rusty spike.

If Walker runs, I'm voting for him (maybe other if he doesn't make it.) If he (or my designated hitter) loses to some RINO, I'm staying home.

I'll be like Mike Douglas in Falling Down, I've had it, I don't see the upside of cooperating with my own fcuking.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 06, 2015 05:45 PM (zRby/)

385 Oh, you must be new here. I'd like to introduce to you:


Gabriel Malor
JeffB
Hollowpoint
JackStraw


Want to put money on that, douche?

Go back and find my comments in the associated thread. I agreed that Boehner should probably go, but that it wouldn't happen.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 06, 2015 05:46 PM (q52qj)

386 trumpetdaddy just wants amnesty so he has more vulnerable Mexican boys to rape.

Posted by: Warden at March 06, 2015 05:47 PM (wHAYQ)

387 " Illegal immigrants aren't living in SoCal or Texas."

You know what else lives in my head. Facts. The Census Bureau seems to think illegals live in So Cal. In 2000 they said my neighbors in So Cal are 40% of the illegal population of the US, and by that distribution, they make up well more than 10% of CA's population.


Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 05:47 PM (QKIQb)

388 trumpetdaddy go get your RINOS elected without us. Fuck them. And Fuck you. Boot-licking, chain-wearing-go-rah-rah-team-RINO types such as yourself ruined the nation beyond repair every bit as much as the Prog-Nazis.

Your precious little whigs are as dead as dickens now. They just self terminated. This was their waterloo. Continuity of existence failure. Maybe we can't win, but we can make damn certain you drown with us.

If we can't have liberty, we can at least make damn sure we spite fuck a giant hole in your port, and drag you down with us.

Posted by: HempRopeAndStreetlight at March 06, 2015 05:47 PM (bG5t+)

389 We should support Jeb Vs Hillary.

That would open an excellent opportunity for a legit 3rd party movement. Winning w/ progs like Jeb (or others like him) is worse then demoshiter rule because it tarnishes the entire movement and demoralizes our ranks. This is a long tern project that has to be fought in multiple battlespaces @ the same time.

Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 05:47 PM (DWgda)

390 The only things better about a Repub over a Dem President are foreign policy and SJCs appointments. ...and even then only marginally. Last Rep gave us Roberts. Fucking Roberts, who couldn't figure out that Obamacare is unconstitutional OR is so compromised that he wouldn't. Fucking Roberts.

Posted by: dogfish at March 06, 2015 05:48 PM (1vYi0)

391 2/3 of Americans, not just Republicans, oppose amnesty and Obamacare. I have a very hard time believing southwest OH has a majority of the dissident 1/3. And if it does, why does the GOP have a Speaker who represents a district out of touch with 2/3 of the country?
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame

Boehner is out of touch with his support back home. But he is getting a lot of PAC money from "amnesty" supporters who want that cheap immigrant labor. To beat him in the primary season in 2016, will take a determined grass roots effort, and somebody who is not afraid to get shit on by the GOPe. It can be done. Beating Cantor proved it.

Cantor was in a safe Republican district. If it can happen to him, it can happen to anybody.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... waiting for spring at March 06, 2015 05:48 PM (RFeQD)

392 You know why I hate illegals?

Because they're illegal.

Barge into the country saying 'Fcuk your laws!' then demand those laws be changed to accommodate you?

Why, how could anyone object to that?

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 06, 2015 05:49 PM (MMC8r)

393 "2/3 of Americans, not just Republicans, oppose amnesty and Obamacare. I
have a very hard time believing southwest OH has a majority of the
dissident 1/3. And if it does, why does the GOP have a Speaker who
represents a district out of touch with 2/3 of the country?"

That may very well be true. But there aren't 2/3 of the United States Senate who believe that, are there? Because that last time I read the Constitution, that's how many Senators it takes to over-ride a veto. And a veto is exactly what will be forthcoming from the president should a bill to do either of those two things pass both Houses of Congress.

Solve that problem before January 20th, 2017 at noon eastern time. Because that's the earliest it's gonna be solved in the world the rest of us live in.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 06, 2015 05:50 PM (ljZD2)

394 I do hope that Boner begins running around with Ds because the only way to shift the Rs right is to push the lefties out. There are two ways: they are primaried out or they change on their own and then the people push them out like sphincter Arlen Specter.

Posted by: dogfish at March 06, 2015 05:52 PM (1vYi0)

395 387
The Census Bureau seems to think illegals live in So Cal. In 2000 they said my neighbors in So Cal are 40% of the illegal population of the US, and by that distribution, they make up well more than 10% of CA's population.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 05:47 PM (QKIQb)



I don't have any numbers, but my eyes and ears tell me that there is a metric fuckton of illegals living in Pennsylvania.

That wasn't the case just 10-15 years ago.

Posted by: rickl at March 06, 2015 05:56 PM (sdi6R)

396 "That may very well be true. But there aren't 2/3 of the United States Senate who believe that, are there?"

As Lizzy said, quit moving the goalposts, sport. Do you routinely spout arguments that "may very well" be untrue ("If you are outside the majority in his district, why is that his fault") ?

Don't Senators represent voters too?

How can it be that 2/3 of the public believes something, but somehow majorities of their "representatives" in the House and Senate, who are representing majorities (supposedly) of their constituents, support something that only 1/3 of the public supports.

Gosh, it's almost as if they're saying one thing to get elected, and then doing another.

You'll have bad times
And he'll have good times
Doing things that you don't understand

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 05:56 PM (QKIQb)

397 388
trumpetdaddy go get your RINOS elected without us.

Posted by: HempRopeAndStreetlight at March 06, 2015 05:47 PM (bG5t+)



I don't think trumpetdaddy is a RINO. I think he's an outright troll.

Or an idiot. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Posted by: rickl at March 06, 2015 05:59 PM (sdi6R)

398 No elected offical is coming to save you. Not Walker, Not Cruz, Not Jindal.

They will say and parrot whatever is required to gain your support and then stab you in the back. How many times must this repeat itself before certain parties understand this? (WSJ, NRO, Foxnews heres looking @ you)

The State Dept has a syrian refugee program and the FBI admits it cant vet these folks. The state dept has decided that up to 50k Yeminis would make valuable additions to our "american family" as well.

You really believe voting is getting us outta this madness eh? Be prepared to be disappointed.

Failure is our only ALLY in this. Im sorry it has to be this way, but it could be worse. We could be the UK.

Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 06:01 PM (DWgda)

399 Did I miss crazy o'clock??

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 06, 2015 06:01 PM (V+kmg)

400 Republicans, demote him by voting "no" on anything, and everything he is tied to in anyway.

Posted by: Cackfinger at March 06, 2015 06:02 PM (53TqR)

401 I don't hate Mexicans. We are Mexico now.

I've been assimilated to Mehico. No point in voting for Reprogs any longer.

Posted by: El Taco-Mccain at March 06, 2015 06:08 PM (4t04h)

402 "You really believe voting is getting us outta this madness eh? Be prepared to be disappointed."

That's my main knock on Walker. It's not that I'm against him as such, but he's being turned into some kind of great hope for conservatism when it just won't be enough. Like I said before, at best he'll do just enough good to lull everyone away from the lifeboats and back into their deck chairs - ironically doing more long term harm by doing a good job.

As Ace said the other day, the worse the better. I absolutely hate to think that way, but we're at a point where course correction won't happen without disaster, but disaster will happen without course correction. And every year that goes by shrinks the odds of pulling back from the brink.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 06, 2015 06:11 PM (QKIQb)

403 @398

Yep. In the past couple of years Obama has let 300,000 Muslim immigrants into the USA.

Posted by: El Taco-McCain at March 06, 2015 06:14 PM (4t04h)

404 Weimer America is not a stable place.

The degeneracy of our culture and the official lies of the ruling class, as ive said, are not long for this world. Normally i dont even post here because i thought it a waste of time. Aces 'fuck this" moment the other day made me rethink it. I normally post and lurk on 4chan and MPC and the Chateau Heartiste. Henry Dampier puts out interesting stuff as well.

We need to start somewhere and embracing the absolute truth is the only thing that can get us thinking about "what is to be done"

Nrx is interesting as well.

Conserative inc. is as dead as Julius Caesar. Coming to grips with that is the first step.

Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 06:25 PM (DWgda)

405 Actually when Ace told J-pod to fuck himself on twitter the coffee came thur my nose.

Someone on twitter replied "good, goood. Use your aggressive feelings, let the HATE flow thur you"

I laughed @ that. Gotta love twitter.

Posted by: Casual Indifference at March 06, 2015 06:28 PM (DWgda)

406

I congratulate Boehner and his supporters on their decision to join the Democratic Party.
If they want to be nominated in 2016, they need to run as Democrats.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 06, 2015 06:48 PM (6fIOn)

407 Primary every single one of the 74. Period.

Doesn't matter if it cost us the House Majority. We clearly don't have it now.

Posted by: Shawn at March 06, 2015 07:00 PM (eK3xL)

408 I remember J-Pud's uselessness when the Weiner photo got loose. Memorial Day weekend.

The arrogant wankstain's attitude was that, since the major news media weren't touching the story (at the time) then it wasn't a story. Despite that Weiner was LITERALLY caught with his pants down (and, one can assume, red handed).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 06, 2015 07:00 PM (xnkL7)

409 Played like a fucking violin.

If you mean when we voted for the useless fucks you keep shilling for in November, then yes.

Posted by: show us the legislative achievements, lickspittle at March 06, 2015 07:14 PM (+F6CT)

410 Shoulda gotten rid of him when we had the chance in January, but noooooo, that would be extremist! Now we'll never be rid of him. That's that. No hope.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at March 06, 2015 07:31 PM (rldyO)

411 Boehner the Pussy is now owned. Wow.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at March 06, 2015 07:48 PM (Sx7uB)

412 Cry me a river, non-Texas America. We've been in the same boat with Joe Straus for the last three sessions.

Bastards.

Posted by: revolting peasant at March 06, 2015 07:53 PM (h8ArC)

413 The chain of events; Soros proudly announces he owns the demorat party. demorats make clear they own Boner. The direction we are going is obvious except to the oblivious, demorats (and Soros) own the path this nation is going down.

Posted by: ron n. at March 06, 2015 09:06 PM (YVQn/)

414 The stuff they have on Boehner and Roberts must be bad.

Ghost? I thought you said goat!

Posted by: Charlie's Pasta at March 06, 2015 09:09 PM (kyTFr)

415 Call their bluff.

Posted by: steveegg at March 06, 2015 11:38 PM (cL79m)

416

If you don't believe the Republican establishment and the leftist Democrats aren't in cahoots and are completely corrupt, you are simply refusing to pay attention.

Make sure your foodstocks are well hidden, and make your local loyalties now.

The time is short.

Posted by: realist at March 07, 2015 01:45 AM (/WaV2)

417 wow, they aren't even trying to hide it anymore. they are going to protect boehner from a "tea party coup"? a tea party coup? it sounds more like a democratic coup. first of all, this means that the tea party is actually a threat to the democratic party's agenda. in addition, it also means that the tea party is on the right track. it means that the tea party must be stopped at all costs, and it also means that the only coup that has really happened here is that the republican party has cased to exist, and nancy pelosi is the real speaker of house. the tyrants are certainly protecting their own. but this revelation begs the question: who is going to protect the American people from the leftist leviathon? who?

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 07, 2015 04:08 AM (2/oBD)

418 ...on a side note...anyone think that boehner is banging pelosi? i mean, this guy is doing "dumb guy things," and you know what that means! when a guy goes haywire and starts doing "dumb guy things," it's usually because there is a really bad vagina behind it all.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 07, 2015 04:18 AM (2/oBD)

419 The Tea Party is powerless. We purged them from our party in the last election cycle. One in which, BTW, WE KICKED THE SHIT OUT OF dimocrap scum. With NO help from the Tea Party. In fact, Tea Party Liberturdians actually HURT us with their IDIOTIC goobermint shutdown. We would have put Kay Hagan on the unemployed list had Tea Party IDIOTS not forced the shut down

Boehner may not be the best Speaker in Galactic History but guess what, geniuses?

He's the one we're stuck with for now.

And Tea Party MORONS want to turn against him?

Brilliant. No wonder dimocraps call you names and mock you.

You really are stupid.

They're PLAYING YOU! Don't you get it? You're getting played.

The best thing that can happend to dimocrap scum is Tea Party MORONS shutting down the goobermint ANY time for ANY reason.

The 2nd best thing that can happen to dimocraps is more talk about impeaching the Lying Piece of Shit in Chief.

Great, Tea Party IDIOTS.... Create sympathy for him. It's not like he already doesn't have a 'Messiah' complex. Make it real this time.

You people are no better and no smarter than dimocraps....

You want a proactive government. The only difference is, you want it proactive in your favor. You want a Beneficent government, just like dimocraps do.

Only you want it beneficent toward you.

If we ever win another General Election, it won't be because Tea Billies helped. You people are just stupid.

Stupid enough to get played by amateurs like Pelousy and the Pedophile

Posted by: Uncle Rick at March 07, 2015 08:19 AM (ZbB1q)

420 Elect RINOs you get the horns. The good news is he will take down whichever leadership assholes continue to side with him. One will do a brutus, and take the blame and the other will do an Antony and get the credit.

Who will it be, who will it be...?

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at March 07, 2015 08:29 AM (TIgJq)

421 [quote]Elect RINOs you get the horns. The good news is he will take down whichever leadership assholes continue to side with him. One will do a brutus, and take the blame and the other will do an Antony and get the credit.

Who will it be, who will it be...?[/quote]

Divide and conquer.

I'm sure the enemies of civilization (dimocrap filth) appreciate your help.

Sorry life isn't perfect. Sorry we can't get just your kind of White Knight in the Speaker position. Sorry.....

grow up

Posted by: Uncle Rick at March 07, 2015 09:00 AM (ZbB1q)

422 The brazen wicked demorats; Look at how we turned everything to crap, but blame as much as possible on Republicans, SHARE. They are guilty of letting us get away with it !
Would you let a mass murderer sociopath get away with that as a defense ?

Posted by: ron n. at March 07, 2015 03:46 PM (YVQn/)

423 Eat shit Uncle Rick.

Drag your worthless RINOS over the finish line by yourself. You traded us all for the Chamber of Commerce. Go ask them to elect your Neo-Whigs.

Posted by: HempRopeAndStreetlight at March 07, 2015 09:19 PM (Q1BEs)

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