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The Brzezinski Doctrine [Weirddave]

Keeping in mind that this is coming from a single newspaper in Kuwait, citing the ever popular "well placed sources" in Israel, if this is true, it could be the most disturbing thing Obama's done yet, actively preventing an ally from dealing with our enemy*.

Report: Obama Threatened to Shoot Down IAF Planes If Israel Struck Iran

This looking glass that we're going through Alice, when do we get to the other side?

IF this is true and IF at some point in the future an Iranian built bomb is detonated, the the blood of all those who die will be directly on Obama's hands.

I bet that thought costs the president not one second of sleep.

*Yes, I know this administration, particularly VeeJay, doesn't think so, but they have been at war with us since 1979. I say we give them the courtesy of honoring their war.

Open Thread

Posted by: Open Blogger at 05:42 PM




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1 If true (and I'm quite sure it is), this is grounds for impeachment.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2015 05:47 PM (K4YiS)

2 Obama, in doing this, allied our armed forces, the military might of the United States, funded by your tax dollars, with the forces of Islamic terror.

We are aiding the enemy.

If this isn't the textbook definition of treason, what is?

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2015 05:48 PM (K4YiS)

3 Zombie, at this point we don't just have grounds for impeachment, we have an entire estate. What difference does one more high crime or misdemeanor make amongst friends?

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 05:48 PM (WvS3w)

4 If Iran successfully nuked Israel, and Israel retaliated in kind, there would be outrage... at Israel.

If that were to come to pass, most countries around the world would offer their hand in friendship to Iran... while allowing their own countries Jews to be terrorized.

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 01, 2015 05:48 PM (0Ew3K)

5 They "claim" it is not true but recall they claim a lot of shit. They are really shitty liars.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2015 05:48 PM (wlDny)

6 Obama's actions are pretty easy to explain.

Obama and the Left believe that America meddles in the Middle East too much.

They think if Iran had nuclear weapons then that would deter America from meddling in the future.

And that is why they are doing everything possible to let Iran get nukes. Because they want Iran to have nukes.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 01, 2015 05:49 PM (ZPrif)

7 Remember when FDR shot down the British planes flying over to bomb Germany?

Me neither.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2015 05:49 PM (K4YiS)

8 Absent a reason not to believe it, I am believing it.



This is the same administrator that refuses to give Ukraine current intel, they wait for 24 hours. Finally CANADA said they would give them real time intel.


Same group that refuses to send Ukraine tank busting weapons or even AMMO.



They are scumbags. That is all.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 05:50 PM (0FSuD)

9 1
If true (and I'm quite sure it is), this is grounds for impeachment.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2015 05:47 PM (K4YiS)

He had "grounds for impeachment" tied up within the first 6 months of 2009. But he knows Congress will do nothing because they took EVERYTHING off the table.


We have no Party.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2015 05:51 PM (wlDny)

10 Not sure about threats directly, but I will say that part of what war planners do is going through every conceivable scenario and trying to figure out what could be done.

It may (hopefully) be a case of "what-if?" being communicated as a "we will"

http://tinyurl.com/brtwdf6

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at March 01, 2015 05:51 PM (PGXA8)

11 Administration, not administrators

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 05:52 PM (0FSuD)

12 Remember when FDR shot down the British planes flying over to bomb Germany?



Me neither.


I remember when the French made us fly all the way around an entire continent to leave a bag of flaming poo on Gaddafi's doorstep. He quieted down for a while after that.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 05:52 PM (WvS3w)

13 The fact that we could deem this plausible is all you have to say about this Administration. This is scary stuff.

Posted by: WisRich at March 01, 2015 05:52 PM (xWQFH)

14 Without permission to fly over Iraq, which they will not get, Israel does not have the tankers necessary to refuel it's planes.


If Kuwait lets them leave from there it's doable.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 05:53 PM (0FSuD)

15 Err, by "being communicated" I mean by people who overhear things or are otherwise not fully in the know of a hypothetical war-gaming session. I don't hope that the admin is purposefully saying "Hey Isreal, look at these cool warplannning ideas we have, hint hint"

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at March 01, 2015 05:53 PM (PGXA8)

16 The only two countries that America has better relations with after 7 years of Obama and Hillary are ... Iran and Cuba.

That's not a coincidence.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 01, 2015 05:54 PM (ZPrif)

17 I'm sick and tired of the excuses coming from the right why we shouldn't/couldn't impeach this traitorous bastard.

The f*cking HELL???

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 05:54 PM (FsuaD)

18 As his final act, Obama will "accidentally lose" a couple of nukes in Iran, accelerating their nuclear program a hundredfold by just giving them the finished product on a silver platter.

I'm sure he's arranging it now -- turn off the detonators, and -- whoops! -- let a couple nukes slip out the bomb bay doors to land safely in some sand dune in an Iranian desert. Where they can be recovered, repainted with Iranian insignia, and armed.

Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2015 05:54 PM (K4YiS)

19 Posted by: zombie at March 01, 2015 05:47 PM (K4YiS)
Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2015 05:48 PM (wlDny)


What saddens me is that even if it weren't true (and I believe it is), the sentiment fits Obama and his handlers quite well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2015 05:55 PM (Zu3d9)

20 Brezinski said it to Daily Beast
Weekly Standard also has the article. sept 19, 2009

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 05:55 PM (nqBYe)

21
IF this is true and IF at some point in the future an
Iranian built bomb is detonated, the the blood of all those who die will
be directly on Obama's hands.

I bet that thought costs the president not one second of sleep.





THIS^^^^A million times THIS^^^^

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 05:55 PM (FsuaD)

22 >>The fact that we could deem this plausible is all you have to say about this Administration. This is scary stuff

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2015 05:56 PM (g1DWB)

23 Shoot them down with what??

We have nothing between Israel and Iran to shoot them down with!

Posted by: WWhiskey at March 01, 2015 05:56 PM (y+S7B)

24 with the Daily Beast (presumably little noticed because serious people don't read the Daily Beast), Zbigniew Brzezinski suggests that Barack Obama do more than just refuse to support an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear sites -- the American president must give the order to shoot down Israeli aircraft as they cross Iraqi airspace:
DB: How aggressive can Obama be in insisting to the Israelis that a military strike might be in America's worst interest?

Brzezinski: We are not exactly impotent little babies. They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?

DB: What if they fly over anyway?

Brzezinski: Well, we have to be serious about denying them that right. That means a denial where you aren't just saying it. If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back

weekly standard sept 2009or not.

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 05:57 PM (nqBYe)

25 Most of us sized up the community organizer long ago.

Everything we needed to know about him was right in front of us.

He's going to get a lot of people killed. Slaughtered. Whether it's the Israelis or us, he Just. Won't. Care.

The bastard is f*cked up. He's clearly lacking a soul.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 05:58 PM (FsuaD)

26 52% would vote for him again. Don't ask me to explain why.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 01, 2015 05:58 PM (l3vZN)

27 Shoot them down with what??



We have nothing between Israel and Iran to shoot them down with!


Yeah, I'm wondering about that, too. Could Obama give the order, planes get airborne, and find the Israelis before they got the job done? I don't know, but it seems unlikely.

Posted by: Retread at March 01, 2015 05:59 PM (px8hG)

28 @16

Nominate for early thread winner!

Posted by: Kreplach at March 01, 2015 06:00 PM (W7O4a)

29 Optics guys. Israel is going to hit Iran. There are many in DC who believe we need to distance ourselves from it, so the Arab St won't attack our interests.

Personally, I don't think the Arab St. Is smart enough to comprehend the silly kabuki dance. They will rage at everyone, including themselves.

All this story say to me is that the LD is closing fast.

Posted by: Jean at March 01, 2015 06:00 PM (ztOda)

30 We have nothing between Israel and Iran to shoot them down with!

Posted by: WWhiskey at March 01, 2015 05:56 PM (y+S7B)

Check the Persian Gulf. I believe we have a carrier sitting in it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 06:00 PM (0FSuD)

31 Hoping and praying our military leaders remember the oath they swore: "enemies both foreign and domestic."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:00 PM (FsuaD)

32 The Obama Administration will be directly responsible for a nuclear incident within the constraint of Barry's miserable lifetime.

The man is a first-world first-class fcukstick.

Posted by: Fritz at March 01, 2015 06:01 PM (dVmLD)

33 Impeach the First Black President? Oh man, you've GOT to be kidding. Guys like McCain who waddle in their own piss at the prospect of being called racist?

Obama's almost untouchable, and he knows it.

If this proves to be true, and we get to January 2017 without an incident, I hope the next president fires everyone, civilian or military, in any position of authority who failed to resign.

Posted by: JEM at March 01, 2015 06:01 PM (o+SC1)

34 This looking glass that we're going through Alice, when do we get to the other side?

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Dude, we're there. That's why Obama is celebrating St. Skittle for Black History Month and Scott Walker supports campus rapes.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 01, 2015 06:01 PM (LImiJ)

35 Zbig Brzezinski: Obama Administration Should Tell Israel U.S. Will Attack Israeli Jets if They Try to Attack Iran
By MichaelJames
Sep 20, 2009 11:10am

abcnews

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 06:02 PM (nqBYe)

36 I would be lovely if Netinyahu confirmed this during a joint-session of Congress. Just sayin'...

Posted by: Rusty Nail at March 01, 2015 06:02 PM (jqUAa)

37 We don't have aircraft in based in Iraq like we did when Brzezinski opened his anti semitic pie hole.

Posted by: steevy at March 01, 2015 06:02 PM (KETbL)

38 Posted by: Jean at March 01, 2015 06:00 PM (ztOda)

I hope you are correct.

Too bad this wasn't dealt with at a much lower level several years ago.

I blame Netanyahu....he should have known that Obama would block him at every turn and just face up to the fact that Israel will have to go it alone.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2015 06:02 PM (Zu3d9)

39 You will know them by their deeds.

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at March 01, 2015 06:02 PM (74McK)

40 Without permission to fly over Iraq, which they will not get, Israel does not have the tankers necessary to refuel it's planes.

Which agency or force in Iraq has the ability to stop them? ISIS doesn't have an AF, and the Iraqi AF is a Quaker cannon. We have the only forces in theatre able to stop the IAF, which is what makes this story so disturbing. Well, one of the things.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 06:02 PM (WvS3w)

41 True or not, this has all the flunkies in the WH press office doing damage control.Having to deny this going to use up alot of oxygen.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 06:02 PM (zRCkz)

42 I bet that thought costs the president not one second of sleep.

****

Not one moment.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 01, 2015 06:02 PM (DmNpO)

43 this is grounds for impeachment.

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Maybe, but without courage, what good will it do?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 01, 2015 06:02 PM (LImiJ)

44 I revise my previous comment to read:

Not one moment... unless he's jacking off to the thought it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 01, 2015 06:03 PM (DmNpO)

45 On Bizarro World Obama is a good president.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2015 06:04 PM (W5DcG)

46 Isn't / hasn't VeeJay been working for and on behalf of Iran since Day 01?

Posted by: Rocky at March 01, 2015 06:04 PM (igt6U)

47 Shoot them down with what??





We have nothing between Israel and Iran to shoot them down with!


IIRC, Vinson is in the Persian Gulf.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 06:05 PM (WvS3w)

48 Obama Administration Should Tell Israel U.S. Will Attack Israeli Jets if They Try to Attack Iran

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This is a Zbig Fvcking Deal.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 01, 2015 06:05 PM (LImiJ)

49 "IF this is true and IF at some point in the future an Iranian built bomb is detonated, the the blood of all those who die will be directly on Obama's hands."

As if he and the donks wd give a shit.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 01, 2015 06:05 PM (iQIUe)

50 Every time I see that old bastard on Morning Joe, along with his idiot daughter, Mika, I get a rage headache.

I think about my late daddy, and how he loved and served this country, and then I look at Mika's nasty, evil sperm donor, and think, "You're still above ground???"

*seethes*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:05 PM (FsuaD)

51 A Kuwaiti paper?

I missed that.

Could just be an attempt to stir up more shit since Netanyahu is making that speech in four days.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 01, 2015 06:06 PM (oFCZn)

52 re losing nukes, not that easy, the nuclear material has a weapon traceable to the reactor it came from, the Israelis would know the nukes came from us, especially since the have likely stolen some nuke material from us.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 01, 2015 06:06 PM (gsfK5)

53 this is grounds for impeachment.

Wouldn't be prudent. Not at this juncture.

Posted by: Country Club Repub at March 01, 2015 06:06 PM (W5DcG)

54 @48 - You'd like to think that the entire wardroom would resign on the spot rather than execute that order.

Posted by: JEM at March 01, 2015 06:06 PM (o+SC1)

55 We probably should take this story with a grain of salt.... That being said It wouldn't surprise me... obama seems to really hate Israel...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 01, 2015 06:06 PM (Bn6aD)

56 They don't have to fly over Iraqi airspace. They can fly over Saudi Arabia. If the Saudi's look the other way to the Israeli's refueling over their territory, the US would have to use carrier based air power to shoot them down in the Persian Gulf. At that point, the Iranians would probably go after the Saudi's.
The Saudi's are probably not pleased that the JEF is going to let Iran get the bomb because that would make Iran the Big Dog on the block. Saudi's would try to buy a bomb from the Pakistani's.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 06:06 PM (AxABj)

57 The majority of our military can't stand Choom Boy.

Sadly, we're living in "interesting times."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:07 PM (FsuaD)

58 Well Netanyahu has landed at Andrews so at least Obama didn't shoot his plane down.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2015 06:07 PM (g1DWB)

59 54 Obama admin has been getting rid of anybody that gives a hint of disagreeing for 6 years now.

Posted by: steevy at March 01, 2015 06:07 PM (KETbL)

60 51 A Kuwaiti paper?

I missed that.

Could just be an attempt to stir up more shit since Netanyahu is making that speech in four days.

Except it bodes badly for obama...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 01, 2015 06:07 PM (Bn6aD)

61 anyone have a chance to ask Mika what she thinks about daddy's ideas? Isn't she a friend of valerie jerretts?




Posted by: yankeefifth at March 01, 2015 06:07 PM (gsfK5)

62 Anyone know what time Bibi's speaking to Congress on Tuesday? I plan to be glued to the television.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:08 PM (FsuaD)

63 I am sure Zbig did say that in 2009. We had assets in both A-stan and Iraq. Now? Not so much. I am sure that Obama would order our military to carry out this order but I would hope that this order would be ignored by our military. Israel is truly alone in this shitty world. Unreal how fast everything has changed.

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at March 01, 2015 06:08 PM (fLKzW)

64 Israel alone...seems I read something about that somewhere..

Posted by: steevy at March 01, 2015 06:09 PM (KETbL)

65 62 Anyone know what time Bibi's speaking to Congress on Tuesday? I plan to be glued to the television.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:08 PM (FsuaD)


Wouldn't surprise me if the 3 networks won't cover it because it "dishonors" Obama.

Fox will probably show it though.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 01, 2015 06:09 PM (oFCZn)

66 >>Anyone know what time Bibi's speaking to Congress on Tuesday? I plan to be glued to the television.

I seem to remember reading 11 am somewhere but I can't find it now.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2015 06:10 PM (g1DWB)

67 They don't have to fly over Iraqi airspace. They can fly over Saudi Arabia. If the Saudi's look the other way to the Israeli's refueling over their territory, the US would have to use carrier based air power to shoot them down in the Persian Gulf. At that point, the Iranians would probably go after the Saudi's.
The Saudi's are probably not pleased that the JEF is going to let Iran get the bomb because that would make Iran the Big Dog on the block. Saudi's would try to buy a bomb from the Pakistani's.
Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 06:06 PM (AxABj)




of course since we have carriers in the Gulf and all the gear in al udeid obama would only have to give the iranians a call to let them know the Israelis are coming.




Posted by: yankeefifth at March 01, 2015 06:10 PM (gsfK5)

68 65 62 Anyone know what time Bibi's speaking to Congress on Tuesday? I plan to be glued to the television.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:08 PM (FsuaD)


Wouldn't surprise me if the 3 networks won't cover it because it "dishonors" Obama.

Fox will probably show it though.

Well if He drops some bombshells they'll have to notice...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 01, 2015 06:10 PM (Bn6aD)

69 There's also the Albright Doctrine which says that the United States of America is going to combat the trafficking of sex slaves.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 06:11 PM (KTXxI)

70 Dammit. I have an important committee meeting Tuesday a.m. at 10:00.

How I wish he'd speak during prime time. Like a SOTU address.

Boy, that would put a bug of the JEF's ass.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:11 PM (FsuaD)

71 I am sure Zbig did say that in 2009. We had assets in both A-stan and Iraq. Now? Not so much. I am sure that Obama would order our military to carry out this order but I would hope that this order would be ignored by our military. Israel is truly alone in this shitty world. Unreal how fast everything has changed.
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at March 01, 2015 06:08 PM (fLKzW)




yeah, it would have been diferent when we had some assets in iraq, before obama failed to get a sof.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 01, 2015 06:11 PM (gsfK5)

72 Nuclear explosion over Tel Aviv? Local story.

- Obama Fellating Media

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 01, 2015 06:12 PM (LImiJ)

73 I had to shoot him, officer. He was armed with a Quaker cannon.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 01, 2015 06:12 PM (2KB+E)

74

Okay, let's get our shit together here for a moment.

obama will never do anything that will result in helping Netanyahu win his election.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 06:12 PM (hbvPW)

75 Well, this would certainly explain why Obama is so freakin' concerned about Bibi addressing Congress directly. What does Bibi know - and what is he willing to reveal to keep his country safe?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2015 06:13 PM (lHHyw)

76 obama will never do anything that will result in helping Netanyahu win his election.

As a matter of fact He is actively working to defeat Him..

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 01, 2015 06:13 PM (Bn6aD)

77 Remember when Netanyahu gave the smartest president ever a history lesson?

That was pretty awesome.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 01, 2015 06:14 PM (oFCZn)

78 Oh and Boehners delusional, he said he feels he can still lead his caucus.

As someone else said, Boehner couldn't lead thirsty Marines to free beer.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 01, 2015 06:14 PM (W7O4a)

79 What a fucked up situation. And it should once and for all put to rest any idea that Liberal Jews are friends of Israel.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:15 PM (nzKvP)

80 78 Oh and Boehners delusional, he said he feels he can still lead his caucus.

I don't think He has a cockus, I mean caucus...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 01, 2015 06:15 PM (Bn6aD)

81 same article from abc has Obamas policy advisor saying Brezinski s views do not refelct Senator Obamas views on the ME and He is not a part fo the administration.

sept 2009

thanks Pixy for not allowing artcicle even after deleting every punctuation point

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 06:15 PM (nqBYe)

82 Bibi gives a damned good speech. Unlike Teleprompter Boy, who can barely mumble a coherent sentence without Valerie telling him what to say on the 'prompter.

Thanks, 52%ers. *types* *deletes*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:15 PM (FsuaD)

83 There's the Carter Doctrine, too, which says that the United States would do whatever it takes to defend our national interests in the Middle East.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 06:17 PM (KTXxI)

84 Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:15 PM (nzKvP)

Last night I read my MIL the riot act about Obama and his hatred of Israel, and for the first time she listened and didn't reflexively defend him.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2015 06:18 PM (Zu3d9)

85 Netanyahu is going to address AIPAC on Monday and Congress on Tuesday? Hum, that sequence seems out of whack to me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:18 PM (nzKvP)

86 I wish to hell that Israel would unleash whatever dirt they have on Barry. Not that the MFM would cover it or the LIVs would come out of their stupor to see it. But there has to be a ton of dirt on that commie scumbag and I want to see his rotten face rubbed in it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 06:18 PM (3UGBQ)

87 IF this is true and IF at some point in the future an Iranian built bomb is detonated, the the blood of all those who die will be directly on Obama's hands.


If it's Jooo blood, Obama will consider it his greatest accomplishment. Khalid Rashid will throw him a party.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 01, 2015 06:18 PM (ZbCKc)

88 Last night I read my MIL the riot act about Obama and his hatred of Israel, and for the first time she listened and didn't reflexively defend him.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2015 06:18 PM (Zu3d9)

To Little To Late

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:19 PM (nzKvP)

89 86 I wish to hell that Israel would unleash whatever dirt they have on Barry. Not that the MFM would cover it or the LIVs would come out of their stupor to see it. But there has to be a ton of dirt on that commie scumbag and I want to see his rotten face rubbed in it.

If only...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 01, 2015 06:19 PM (Bn6aD)

90 As a matter of fact He is actively working to defeat Him..
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I think I remember reading somewhere that a couple of people from Organizing for Obama went over to help Bibi's opposition candidates.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 06:19 PM (AxABj)

91 If Bush was reported saying this we would be calling BS. With this ass hat the worst is believable. I have no idea if it is true, but it is believable. Sad that.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 01, 2015 06:19 PM (WNERA)

92 Oh and Boehners delusional, he said he feels he can still lead his caucus.



As someone else said, Boehner couldn't lead thirsty Marines to free beer.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 01, 2015 06:14 PM (W7O4a)



Quisling Jr. needs a swift kick in the ass and out the door.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 06:19 PM (3UGBQ)

93 What a fucked up situation. And it should once and for all put to rest any idea that Liberal Jews are friends of Israel.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:15 PM (nzKvP)
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And yet CNN asks "Has Israel lost the Democratic party?". They should be asking "Has the Democratic Party begun to lose the Jewish vote?" because I can't see this affair not having repercussions with many Jewish voters.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 01, 2015 06:19 PM (KH1sk)

94 Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 01, 2015 06:15 PM (Bn6aD)

The only caucus Boehner can run is a Rum and Cokus down his gullet.

What a feckless hack he has turned out to be.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2015 06:19 PM (Zu3d9)

95 Hillary Clinton has been noticeably quiet about all these goings-on. Any minute now the American press will fairly hound her for her reaction to all this, I'm sure.


Any. Minute.

Posted by: troyriser at March 01, 2015 06:20 PM (gJU39)

96 I wonder what our pilots would do if they got a despicable order like that from the CinC.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 01, 2015 06:20 PM (ZbCKc)

97 Dear Obama voters,

Your guy's opinions on everything are always evolving. No hard feelings for 2008 and 2012, but maybe your opinion of Obama and Co. should be evolving, too.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 06:20 PM (KTXxI)

98 I think I remember reading somewhere that a couple of people from Organizing for Obama went over to help Bibi's opposition candidates.
Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 06:19 PM (AxABj)

They were. But contrary to popular opinion, Americans have been interfering in Israeli Elections for years on both sides. IN this case it "should" backfire since Fredo is so Unpopular in Israel.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:20 PM (nzKvP)

99 If Barry were president in 1941 he would have given the order to help the Japs bomb Pearl Harbor

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 06:21 PM (3UGBQ)

100 86
I wish to hell that Israel would unleash whatever dirt they have on
Barry. Not that the MFM would cover it or the LIVs would come out of
their stupor to see it. But there has to be a ton of dirt on that commie
scumbag and I want to see his rotten face rubbed in it.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 06:18 PM (3UGBQ)


I'd love (1) the Khalid Rashid tape, (2) the JEF's college transcripts, and (3) pics, videos, whatever of his time at Man Country.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:21 PM (FsuaD)

101 If this isn't the textbook definition of treason, what is?

Posted by: zombie

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Disagreeing with a democrat president, duh.

Posted by: Democrats at March 01, 2015 06:21 PM (MYPM9)

102 >>I think I remember reading somewhere that a couple of people from Organizing for Obama went over to help Bibi's opposition candidates.

I believe the number is 5.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2015 06:21 PM (g1DWB)

103 And the F**d up thing is this disaster of a President is never going to go away, democrat Presidents never just go away.

So we have this jerkoff insinuating himself into the picture for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 01, 2015 06:21 PM (W7O4a)

104 because I can't see this affair not having repercussions with many Jewish voters.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 01, 2015 06:19 PM (KH1sk)


Because you don't know JINOs like I know JINOs. Reminds me of a song....

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:21 PM (nzKvP)

105 I do remember that there was talk of Israel "bombing" Iran and it seemed to just go away.... Could this be why?

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 01, 2015 06:23 PM (Bn6aD)

106 36 I would be lovely if Netinyahu confirmed this during a joint-session of Congress. Just sayin'...
Posted by: Rusty Nail at March 01, 2015 06:02 PM (jqUAa)

Better yet, Bibi should arrange for the strike to occur while he's giving the speech at 11am Eastern on Tuesday.

Then tell Congress (and Obama) since they won't take action to stop Iran, he will.

Posted by: Thrawn at March 01, 2015 06:23 PM (d7XFS)

107 I'd love (1) the Khalid Rashid tape, (2) the JEF's college transcripts, and (3) pics, videos, whatever of his time at Man Country.


Talk slower, we're writing all this down.

Posted by: The MSM, Watchdog of Democracy at March 01, 2015 06:23 PM (ZbCKc)

108 This explains it nicely. Most American Jews vote Leftist because most American Jews don't actually believe in Judaism.

Ben Shapiro: Why Do Jews Vote Leftist? | Truth Revolt http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/ben-shapiro-why-jews-vote-leftist#.VPOfZLQ7xlc.twitter

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 01, 2015 06:23 PM (ZPrif)

109 52% would vote for him again. Don't ask me to explain why.

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Free shit!

Posted by: Democrats at March 01, 2015 06:24 PM (MYPM9)

110 a team of up to five Obama campaign operatives has reportedly arrived in Israel to lead a campaign to defeat ... Obama campaign team. That group is ... measure to ...

breitbart 1 26 2015

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 06:24 PM (nqBYe)

111 52% would vote for him again. Don't ask me to explain why.

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Because we hate this awful country. Look at what they did to a couple of people 63 years ago!

Posted by: Other Democrats at March 01, 2015 06:25 PM (MYPM9)

112 Thunder b mentioned in an earlier thread that the pinko scrunts are at AIPAC and are going to try to prevent Bibi from speaking. Delusional does't cover these pigs.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 06:25 PM (zRCkz)

113 Another problem in shooting them down with the carrier force?


It's HQ is in Bahrain, which the Saudi control indirectly. Would be a problem if the fleet was kicked out of the country...



A BIG PROBLEM.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 06:25 PM (0FSuD)

114 I don't really know how popular Bibi is in Israel... He could lose...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 01, 2015 06:25 PM (Bn6aD)

115 All Hail Eris at 93: "I can't see this affair not having repercussions with many Jewish voters."

That only becomes an issue if moving to Israel becomes a Plan B on the front burner. So long as American Jews feel safe in America, they have no practical use for Israel. (Spiritual maybe, but not practical.)

I don't understand why most people vote the way they do. Inertia must explain a lot.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 06:26 PM (KTXxI)

116 I don't really know how popular Bibi is in Israel... He could lose...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 01, 2015 06:25 PM (Bn6aD)

He is NOT popular in Israel, but neither are any of his opponents. And Fredo is hated.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:26 PM (nzKvP)

117 Part of the problem is that Obama is desperate to sign some sort of treaty with Iran. He thinks it will be his Nixon in China moment and cement his legacy forever as a master of foreign policy. What he doesn't realize is that even if he gets some kind of deal, the Persians will rook him like a rube at an Omaha traveling carnival's three card monte table. Even if he were to achieve what he things is his greatest success, it would turn out to be his greatest failure.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 06:27 PM (WvS3w)

118
He is NOT popular in Israel, but neither are any of his opponents. And Fredo is hated.

Figured as much...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at March 01, 2015 06:27 PM (Bn6aD)

119 I don't understand why most people vote the way they do. Inertia must explain a lot.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 06:26 PM (KTXxI)

And stupidity

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:27 PM (nzKvP)

120 I can't see this affair not having repercussions with many Jewish voters.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 01, 2015 06:19 PM (KH1sk)

You don't know many Jews....do you?

Come to the NY/NJ Moron Meet-up this Friday and I'll buy your booze while Nevergiveup and I explain how fcuking stupid our co-religionists are. And that's if you stipulate that they are even real Jews......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2015 06:27 PM (Zu3d9)

121 Dear Israel:

Wake the hell up.

Fondly,

Jane

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:27 PM (FsuaD)

122 The only deal we should have with Iran is one that says, fine, you can have nuclear for power generation, but not for weapons.

You must use Thorium as the fuel source.

Liquid Flouride Thorium reactors or pebble bed reactors with Thorium as the fuel are safe and produce very little waste. And what waste they produce is extremely hard to use for nuclear weapons.
Then they can have their power plant but not weapons. That ought to shut them up.

Why wouldn't that work better than what we are idiotically doing right now?

Posted by: cornfusedyetagain at March 01, 2015 06:27 PM (32cZc)

123 I don't know any Jewish folks, but I feel tremendous solidarity with them.. It feels like the whole world is either against them or doesn't care or is looking the other way to avoid getting involved.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 01, 2015 06:28 PM (2x3L+)

124 "And stupidity"

Yup.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 06:28 PM (KTXxI)

125 I'm quite sure that Obama HAS lost sleep thinking about this. For him, shooting down Israeli planes to protect Iran is pretty darn exciting and could easily keep him awake at night.

Here's something I've pondered in my more paranoid moments: If, God forbid, one of these crazy terrorist groups did manage to nuke an American city (or cities) . . . would there be a military response? My guess is no, there would not.

Posted by: tsj017 at March 01, 2015 06:28 PM (t1f6S)

126 Hillary Clinton has been noticeably quiet about all these goings-on. Any
minute now the American press will fairly hound her for her reaction to
all this, I'm sure.

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She'd probably prefer this line of questioning to that of her husband on Pedophile Paradise.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 01, 2015 06:28 PM (MYPM9)

127 And Fredo is hated.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:26 PM (nzKvP)

And they used to think he was so cool!

[By the way, "Fredo" might be the perfect name for Obama. It just oozes contempt]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2015 06:28 PM (Zu3d9)

128 A few years ago I co-chaired a Stand With Israel event here.

There were more Christians than Jews in attendance.

I just don't get it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:29 PM (FsuaD)

129 Nevergiveup. What do you think of Caroline Glick?

Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 06:29 PM (zRCkz)

130 If, God forbid, one of these crazy terrorist groups did manage to nuke an American city (or cities) . . . would there be a military response? My guess is no, there would not.
Posted by: tsj017 at March 01, 2015 06:28 PM (t1f6S)






IIRC the ear president has said we are a big country and could survive one or two nuke attacks.

Near as I remember anyway.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 01, 2015 06:30 PM (WNERA)

131 If, God forbid, one of these crazy terrorist groups did manage to nuke an American city (or cities) . . . would there be a military response? My guess is no, there would not.


Cairo Speech II: The Enfuckening

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 01, 2015 06:31 PM (ZbCKc)

132 this ain't real. can't be

Posted by: thathalfrican at March 01, 2015 06:31 PM (R5HRU)

133 >>Why wouldn't that work better than what we are idiotically doing right now?

Because they don't want nuclear power, they want nuclear weapons.

Sooner or later this will become a fight. You can't negotiate with someone who has no intention of compromising.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2015 06:32 PM (g1DWB)

134 I will bless those who bless her and curse those who curse her.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 01, 2015 06:32 PM (DajPN)

135 And over on WZ, Robert Reich sounds off on how Bibi's speech is going to alienate American Jew's and jeopardize Israel's safety.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 06:32 PM (AxABj)

136 Nevergiveup. What do you think of Caroline Glick?
Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 06:29 PM (zRCkz)

I don't read everything she ever writes but I seem to remember her being pretty good most of the time. Why?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:33 PM (nzKvP)

137 Informal survey: How long after the 9/11 attacks until you first heard that America had ot coming?

(For me, it was 3 hours.)

Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 06:33 PM (KTXxI)

138 *it (not ot)

Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 06:33 PM (KTXxI)

139 IIRC the ear president has said we are a big country and could survive one or two nuke attacks.


I mean, do we really *need* Dallas, Knoxville, Savannah, Charleston, Houston, Birmingham, Shreveport, Cincinnati, etc.???


---- Choom Boy


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:33 PM (FsuaD)

140 Hey, Never, how was that "Kosher" Lobster?



Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 06:33 PM (0FSuD)

141 I'm not sure if this is true or not...

But it does sound TYPICAL of this administration, and its strongarm tactics...

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 01, 2015 06:33 PM (qh617)

142 National Security Council spox Meehan denies. "Absolutely false"she says.

AIPAC is breaking with the WH and is encouraging Congress to oppose

Miss Lindsay says they have a veto proof voting bloc opposing the "deal"

Feinstein, Frum, and Greenwald are outraged

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:33 PM (zOTsN)

143 !!!

He really is AN (if not THE) anti-Christ. Anyone who would try to prevent Israel from defending herself (and the world) is in cahoots with the Devil himself.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at March 01, 2015 06:34 PM (rldyO)

144 Here's something I've pondered in my more paranoid moments: If, God forbid, one of these crazy terrorist groups did manage to nuke an American city (or cities) . . . would there be a military response? My guess is no, there would not.

Posted by: tsj017 at March 01, 2015 06:28 PM (t1f6S)


I think there would be a response...from citizens here with guns.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 01, 2015 06:34 PM (oFCZn)

145 I don't know if this story is true but I have no doubt that The One would never give the Israelis permission to overfly Iraq, without which an attack on Iran could never happen.
I wonder if those who wish that Israel would simply go away understand that they're not going without a fight.
If Israel gets nuked then Islam's precious black rock is going get vaporized and that would invalidate their entire religion.

Posted by: Rayj at March 01, 2015 06:34 PM (b8ngz)

146 And over on WZ, Robert Reich sounds off on how Bibi's speech is going to alienate American Jew's and jeopardize Israel's safety.
Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 06:32 PM (AxABj)

Actually it was on his Facebook page and I was gong to respond to him but.... I chose discretion since I am in Uniform on FB. What a little prick

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:34 PM (nzKvP)

147 I think we need to hear about this from BiBi.,

Posted by: Pat at March 01, 2015 06:34 PM (AivPA)

148 You don't know many Jews....do you?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2015 06:27 PM (Zu3d9)
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My Jewish army buddies were libs but staunch defenders of Israel and very pro-national defense. Jewish coworkers run the gamut from conservative to classic NYT liberals.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 01, 2015 06:34 PM (KH1sk)

149 It is alienating American Jews from the Democrats

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:34 PM (zOTsN)

150 I can easily believe that Obama would shoot down Israeli war planes on the way to Iran. Except for a few gaffes, the man has lied the entire time he has been in public office. I am 90% confident that there is an 85% chance that Obama is a muslim. I am 100% confident that there is a 99% chance that Obama is a muslim sympathizer and hates America, the west, and Israel.

Name a single difference in how Obama has acted if he were not a muslim sympathizer, an enemy of America, the west, and Israel. One. Thing. One. Action.

Posted by: Jukin at March 01, 2015 06:35 PM (WGm5T)

151 Firehouse,

I didn't hear it for a long time months maybe. No one has ever said it to my face yet.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 01, 2015 06:35 PM (WNERA)

152
Tonight is the premiere of Vince Gilligan's new series Battle Creek. Dont tell Ace...

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 01, 2015 06:35 PM (iQIUe)

153 Hey, Never, how was that "Kosher" Lobster?



Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 06:33 PM (0FSuD)

It's always good at the River Palm

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:35 PM (nzKvP)

154 If this is true, perhaps Bibi will disclose it in his speech?

Posted by: ParisParamus at March 01, 2015 06:35 PM (0BpLZ)

155 137
Informal survey: How long after the 9/11 attacks until you first heard that America had ot coming?



That very night. Husband's NYC prog sister. She watched the towers fall, and e-mailed the family, "We need to understand why we're hated." Of course, she's married to a self-hating Jew.


Husband lost his sh*t with her.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:35 PM (FsuaD)

156 Well, we are finally seeing what a Democratic form of foreign policy would look like. THIS is what we always mocked the dems for from 1960 on and said they were trying to do.

And this is not low grade stuff either, this is that crazy hippie guy at college you ran into who seemed like the kind of guy who would have happily run a concentration camp or gulag. You know the one, with those glazed over, true believer eyes?

The dems always either stayed on the conservative side or in the middle on foreign policy for good reason. As long as the Soviets were around, the public would never consent to doing anything too crazy with our safety. Absent that obvious threat, and after winning reelection, it allows Obama the freedom to do as he wills.

This will end badly. At this point, I would almost give McGovern, Mondale, or Dukakis a try at the helm.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2015 06:36 PM (wt/Oq)

157 I wager 2 quatloos that this was not the first time Barack Obama has threatened a former ally.

Posted by: Yellow Brain at March 01, 2015 06:36 PM (SOf+k)

158 Nothing beats a big Palm lobster! Get it stuffed with "Kosher" crab meat!



Getting hungry!

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 06:37 PM (0FSuD)

159 At first, I thought this might be a leak from Netanyahu as a sign of just how far relations between the US and Israel had deteriorated.

Now I see it as Obama bragging to Middle East Governments that He, Obama, had personally stopped an attack on Iran, to gain street cred with Islamist governments.

Code pink is an Obama group, and their efforts to disrupt AIPAC is with the approval of the President, if not at the orders of the President.

So, whether or not it is true doesn't matter. We already know Obama's preference lies with the enemies of Israel, and he takes it as a personal affront that Netanyahu meddle in domestic US politics while ignoring illegal campaign contributions to democrat politicians from foreign sources.

Posted by: Clive Gentile at March 01, 2015 06:37 PM (Mr53Y)

160 I would not entirely believe this story. It's not that I would put it past Fredo, but the details are fuzzy and it sounds like a political plant. From which side I don't know?

And if Fredo wanted to sabotage the Israelis attacking Iran all he would have to do is leak the details to Iran. He would not really have to attack them.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:37 PM (nzKvP)

161 Jane Harmon, former D Congresscritter, was on Faux News Sunday, and bristled when one commentator opined that the O Admin is anti-Israeli. She protested loud and long about what great friends the Ds are to Israel.

Its been said many times, but the loyalty of American Jews to the muzzie lovin D party is one of life's great mysteries.

Posted by: great big Banana Republic at March 01, 2015 06:37 PM (+kznc)

162 Nevergiveup- She has an interesting analysis on Bibi's stand on Iran and why he has tried softsoap his way through o's term in office and on the pali's but is going to fight tooth and nail on iran.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 06:38 PM (zRCkz)

163 159 At first, I thought this might be a leak from Netanyahu as a sign of just how far relations between the US and Israel had deteriorated.

Now I see it as Obama bragging to Middle East Governments that He, Obama, had personally stopped an attack on Iran, to gain street cred with Islamist governments.

Code pink is an Obama group, and their efforts to disrupt AIPAC is with the approval of the President, if not at the orders of the President.

So, whether or not it is true doesn't matter. We already know Obama's preference lies with the enemies of Israel, and he takes it as a personal affront that Netanyahu meddle in domestic US politics while ignoring illegal campaign contributions to democrat politicians from foreign sources.

Posted by: Clive Gentile at March 01, 2015 06:37 PM (Mr53Y)


The problem with this is that Iran is almost universally despised by the Arab world.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 01, 2015 06:38 PM (oFCZn)

164 I heard it before the second tower came down. I then began telling people up front that if they ever said such shit to me,I would clock them.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 01, 2015 06:39 PM (iQIUe)

165 Nevergiveup- She has an interesting analysis on Bibi's stand on Iran and why he has tried softsoap his way through o's term in office and on the pali's but is going to fight tooth and nail on iran.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 06:38 PM (zRCkz)

Link?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:39 PM (nzKvP)

166 I say we ALL rally in DC in support of Bibi when he is speaking in congress!1 Hell's yeah c'mon who's with me!!!!!! http://tinyurl.com/abyhka8

Posted by: Snoop-a-loop at March 01, 2015 06:39 PM (XYKz+)

167 Hold the phone!

Geraldo has an opinion:

Ad comparing Susan Rice to NAZI is sick. I am a proud American & tough Jew. Neither Netanyahu nor Adelson speaks for me. Shame on Shmuley.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 01, 2015 06:39 PM (DmNpO)

168 The problem with this is that Iran is almost universally despised by the Arab world.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 01, 2015 06:38 PM (oFCZn)

They are not Arabs, They are Persian

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:39 PM (nzKvP)

169 RE: Iraq overflight shootdown
I have a feeling the the Israelis have enough knowledge of our electronics intelligence to make detection somewhat difficult.

IF this is true and IF at some point in the future an Iranian built bomb is detonated ...

Israel's No.1 military objective is to not allow that to happen. That is, unless another government is providing counter-intelligence to the Iranians. Then I guess all bets are off.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 01, 2015 06:39 PM (EwP4K)

170 Code Pink tried to break into AIPAC

And failed. On you tube. It cheers me.


My 15 year old daughter is at AIPAC representing her school. She is see excited.

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:39 PM (zOTsN)

171 I have to agree with Clapper here. The threat level to the US is the highest it's been since 9/11. And we have Fredo and his clown car posse in charge. If that doesn't make you crap your pants, nothing will.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 06:39 PM (AxABj)

172 142 National Security Council spox Meehan denies. "Absolutely false"she says.


Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:33 PM (zOTsN)

And the IRS would never be partisan...

And the NSA would never spy on Congress, Reporters, or the American People...

and the President would never bypass Congress and create Law...

And the internet will remain Free...


And the checks in the mail....

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 01, 2015 06:40 PM (qh617)

173 All the Jews I know in real life are very left-wing. Often the most left-wing people I know. 3 come to mind, college prof, journalist, finance guy. All are socialists. Life long Democrats. Bright, successful ppl.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 01, 2015 06:40 PM (ZPrif)

174 This would basically be an act of war by the US against an ally, on the behalf of an avowed enemy of the US.

Ever stop to wonder what the source of all those illegal, unaccountable campaign donations were in 2008?

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 06:40 PM (MMC8r)

175 Bob from table9: "I didn't hear it for a long time months maybe. No one has ever said it to my face yet."

Wow. I mean, that's good.

Something else I heard: A couple days before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, a guy was lecturing me - rambling, really. After about an hour-long monologue, he said his "greatest fear is that the invasion would go well and Bush will come out smelling like a rose."

Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 06:41 PM (KTXxI)

176 >>Jane Harmon, former D Congresscritter, was on Faux News Sunday, and bristled when one commentator opined that the O Admin is anti-Israeli. She protested loud and long about what great friends the Ds are to Israel.

Well they are going to get their chance to prove it. If Bibi makes a compelling case, and I fully expect him to, the pressure is going to start mounting on the Dems to turn against Obama's shitty deal.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2015 06:41 PM (g1DWB)

177 IF true--Walks like treason. Quacks like treason. TREASON.

Posted by: The roost aint what it used to be at March 01, 2015 06:41 PM (7GI9v)

178 This all makes me incredibly sad. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:42 PM (nzKvP)

179 26 Jinx

As would most American Jews.

My fellow tribes folk suck major ass.

Posted by: speedster1 on the (new) ipad at March 01, 2015 06:42 PM (1brdf)

180 Of course, she's married to a self-hating Jew.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:35 PM (FsuaD)
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The self-loathing is exacerbated by the speedo. It's a vicious cycle.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 01, 2015 06:42 PM (KH1sk)

181 President High Horse may have said it to Israel, who leaked it to Kwaiti paper

I believe it Yes it was leaked. For political reasons. Doesn't mean it isn't true

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:43 PM (zOTsN)

182 Looking at the map, it seems flying over Saudi and then northwards to Iran would require air refueling, which I'm sure the Israelis have, as well as the Saudis
knowing they would be committing an Act of War against the Iranians.

Very, very tricky.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at March 01, 2015 06:43 PM (HFSaY)

183 Jane d'Oh: "She watched the towers fall, and e-mailed the family"

Never let a crisis, etc.

(Damn.)

Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 06:43 PM (KTXxI)

184 Ben Cardin, looooonnnggg time dem from MD, is sponsoring a bill for sanctions with Corker.


The rats will flee

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:44 PM (zOTsN)

185 Nevergiveup - Israel Matzav blog. If I tried to link it I would break the blog and never get out of the barrel.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 06:44 PM (zRCkz)

186 >>> 178 This all makes me incredibly sad. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:42 PM (nzKvP)

Yeah, same here. Nothing good anywhere.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 01, 2015 06:45 PM (2x3L+)

187 This will end badly. At this point, I would almost give McGovern, Mondale, or Dukakis a try at the helm.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2015 06:36 PM (wt/Oq)


George McGovern flew 35 combat missions as a B-24 bomber pilot in WWII, over some of the most heavily defended targets in Europe.

Whatever McGovern's faults, lack of courage and fortitude were not among them. Of course he would do better than Obama. Obviously, naturally.

Posted by: troyriser at March 01, 2015 06:45 PM (gJU39)

188 I remember when a former poster "fondly" known as cat piss finally jumped the shark.

She claimed the ONLY people in the U. S. who cared about 9/11 were New Yorkers. That she had traveled to "every state" and no one cared.

That sent the majority of the Horde over the edge.

My mother was sick in bed for a couple of weeks over 9/11. Everywhere you turned down here, people were in shock and in tears. And there were families here who lost loved ones in the towers.

It was right then that our young son decided he wanted to join the military. And eventually became a Marine.

His former C-i-C can horsef*ck.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:45 PM (FsuaD)

189 If you allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon you are almost assuredly guaranteeing a Israeli First Strike if push comes to shove. And they don't need an Air Strike to do that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:45 PM (nzKvP)

190 Jane D'oh, could you shoot me an email at linseyziq at hotmail?

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 06:46 PM (TEpA2)

191 I'd love Bibi to go before Congress and say 'My American friends, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Iran forever. We begin bombing in five minutes'

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 06:46 PM (MMC8r)

192 Nevergiveup - Israel Matzav blog. If I tried to link it I would break the blog and never get out of the barrel.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 06:44 PM (zRCkz)

Thanks---I'll find it later

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:46 PM (nzKvP)

193 "It was right then that our young son decided he wanted to join the military. And eventually became a Marine."

God bless him and your family, Jane.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 06:48 PM (KTXxI)

194 "142 National Security Council spox Meehan denies. "Absolutely false"she says. "

Perhaps that was Bibi's plan. Leak that Obama planned to shoot down Israeli planes so that Obama would be forced to denounce the claim, and thus can not actually shoot down Israeli planes.

Posted by: That Cherry Gangster Who Just Offed Himself at March 01, 2015 06:48 PM (MYCIw)

195 If, God forbid, one of these crazy terrorist groups did manage to nuke an American city (or cities) . . . would there be a military response? My guess is no, there would not.
Posted by: tsj017 at March 01, 2015 06:28 PM (t1f6S)




yeah it is more likely to go 1. terrorists nuke American city / cities, 2. obama declares martial law, end of story.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 01, 2015 06:48 PM (gsfK5)

196 Iran need not worry about getting nukes to destroy Israel - I've got 1,500 warheads targeted on them, and I'm not afraid to use them in due time.

Posted by: Teh SCOAMT at March 01, 2015 06:48 PM (cL79m)

197 God bless him and your family, Jane.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 06:48 PM (KTXxI)


He was one of thousands. God bless 'em all. I really feel for the ones still serving under the JEF. He doesn't care about them. At all. And his ugly wife can stop pretending she cares.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:49 PM (FsuaD)

198
The New Yorker Mag's first issue after 9/11, the one with the black cover, featured a piece by Mary Beard, a brit academic who said we had it coming.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 01, 2015 06:49 PM (iQIUe)

199 As time goes on 9-11 will fade and if they show the buildings coming down they will never show the people jumping to their deaths. I learned all I needed to know about islam after that day and the days after. Yeah I knew about the Marine barracks and the african embassies but for some reason I didn't look up the 'Why" of it all. It will not go well for them in the future, millions of us now know the why of it all.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 01, 2015 06:49 PM (WNERA)

200 we should be telling iran hey, we will be right by with your nuclear power, just open up a window and hold out the plug for your appliance.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 01, 2015 06:49 PM (gsfK5)

201 Believing this story means that you must also believe that Obama and Kerry have the brains, the courage, and the will to order such a thing. I've not seen those traits displayed in either the President or in his Secretary.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at March 01, 2015 06:49 PM (TqyFL)

202 Bibi needs to make this the cornerstone of his speech. Even if it is false, he should bring it up just because it is in the realm of possibility.

Posted by: Valiant at March 01, 2015 06:49 PM (4rlxS)

203 That's true Cherry


Makes him have to promise not to do so explicitly or look like a collaborator

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:49 PM (zOTsN)

204 off mob sock

Posted by: Lauren at March 01, 2015 06:50 PM (MYCIw)

205 As time goes on 9-11 will fade and if they show the
buildings coming down they will never show the people jumping to their
deaths. I learned all I needed to know about islam after that day and
the days after. Yeah I knew about the Marine barracks and the african
embassies but for some reason I didn't look up the 'Why" of it all. It
will not go well for them in the future, millions of us now know the why
of it all.



Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 01, 2015 06:49 PM (WNERA)



Earlier today I was driving on the 295 Richmond (VA) bypass. There is a bridge named in memory of a Navy enlisted man who died on the USS Cole.

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 06:51 PM (TEpA2)

206 I just listened to jane harman and kathleen parker on chris wallace show. I fucking got more retarded by the second.

Posted by: fastfreefall at March 01, 2015 06:51 PM (8qSgA)

207 Israel buys most of their DOD equipment from us, right? What if the JEF orders sales stopped?

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:51 PM (zOTsN)

208 Maybe it's a ploy on Israel's part to force Obama to forcefully state that he is firmly on the side of our ally Israel.

I don't think Obama will say that, though...

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 01, 2015 06:52 PM (MYPM9)

209 Yeah I knew about the Marine barracks and the african embassies but for some reason I didn't look up the 'Why" of it all.


Visit the Beirut Memorial near Camp Lejeune one day.


The day we visited, a young Marine was standing at the wall with the names of the dead, his fingers on a name. He turned to us and said, "This was my father's best friend."


At the entrance to the memorial, is a piece of steel from one of the Towers. Across a bridge is a stunning Vietnam memorial.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:52 PM (FsuaD)

210 Jane: I wonder if cat-p suffered from a progressive form of dementia.

She was a moronette in good standing for some time here. Then she started talking more and more about how kewl her friends in Manhattan were. Then what you mentioned. Then the name-dropping intensified. Then she kept switching names (but she couldn't figure out how come we could always tell that when "ozfic"'s hash showed up, we knew it was her).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 01, 2015 06:53 PM (AVEe1)

211 Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 06:44 PM (zRCkz)


Yes I read it. Sounds like I could have written it. Not much if anything to disagree with.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:53 PM (nzKvP)

212 Vendette, I saw your post up-thread. I'll e-mail after we've had dinner (which I need to start now).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 06:53 PM (FsuaD)

213 Maybe it's a ploy on Israel's part to force Obama to forcefully state that he is firmly on the side of our ally Israel.

I don't think Obama will say that, though...


Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 01, 2015 06:52 PM (MYPM9)


Prezzy Teenager will make a statement about Israel with his middle finger pretending to itch his rotten face

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 06:53 PM (3UGBQ)

214 Menendez, yeah the hooker guy, is sponsoring a sanctions bill vs Iran. Elected Dems will flee from the JEF.

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:54 PM (zOTsN)

215 Menendez, yeah the hooker guy, is sponsoring a sanctions bill vs Iran. Elected Dems will flee from the JEF.
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:54 PM (zOTsN)

He sponsored it and then sat on it, efffectively killing it. He is a phone fuckin bastard.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:55 PM (nzKvP)

216 They don't have to fly over Iraqi airspace. They can fly over Saudi Arabia. If the Saudi's look the other way to the Israeli's refueling over their territory, the US would have to use carrier based air power to shoot them down in the Persian Gulf. At that point, the Iranians would probably go after the Saudi's. The Saudi's are probably not pleased that the JEF is going to let Iran get the bomb because that would make Iran the Big Dog on the block. Saudi's would try to buy a bomb from the Pakistani's.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 06:06 PM (AxABj)


As long as my fellow countrymen the Iranians don't take out Mecca and Medina, I'm good with that.

Posted by: ValJar at March 01, 2015 06:55 PM (cL79m)

217 She claimed the ONLY people in the U. S. who cared about 9/11 were New Yorkers. That she had traveled to "every state" and no one cared.
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At the time, shock and concern were universal. I have to admit that the memory of most Americans is fading.

I favor a saturation reply of the videos on each anniversary.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2015 06:55 PM (F2IAQ)

218 Considering that perhaps the majority of world nations would prefer to see Iran's nuke program a smoking pile of rubble and would turn the other way to have Israel do it for them, this may be a way of daring Obama to keep tying their hands.

I wonder if the Saudis would be eager enough to curtail Iran that they'd send a few of their planes in at the same time as cover.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 06:55 PM (MMC8r)

219 a saturation reply...

'replay.. '

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2015 06:56 PM (F2IAQ)

220 213
Is he that old already?

Posted by: Missouri Gawker at March 01, 2015 06:56 PM (vNlkp)

221 I got better!

Posted by: Zombie George McGovern at March 01, 2015 06:56 PM (FStv1)

222 I wonder if the Saudis would be eager enough to curtail Iran that they'd send a few of their planes in at the same time as cover.
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 06:55 PM (MMC8r)

No they are gutless bastard who always hire others to the dirty work from cleaning the toilets to making War.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 06:56 PM (nzKvP)

223 222

This ^

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 01, 2015 06:57 PM (WNERA)

224 207
Israel buys most of their DOD equipment from us, right? What if the JEF orders sales stopped?

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:51 PM (zOTsN)

It's a two way street. We buy a LOT of Israeli weapons AND software.
We are tied together.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 06:58 PM (0FSuD)

225 I have my ideas, but when the shit really hits the fan, who do Israel's Arab neighbors hate/fear more--Israel or Iran?

Posted by: JoeF. at March 01, 2015 06:58 PM (8HGb7)

226 Dems are now saying that it's unamerican to oppose the JEF's deal

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:58 PM (zOTsN)

227 He thinks it will be his Nixon in
China moment and cement his legacy forever as a master of foreign
policy.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 06:27 PM (WvS3w)
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More like a Neville Chamberlain legacy in the Sudentenland.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at March 01, 2015 06:59 PM (TqyFL)

228 Maybe this is what Obama is terrified Netanyahu will tell Congress. Aside from starting wars without Congressional permission, he would now be firing on allies because Jooos.

I wonder... would that even be a lawful order? Because I can absolutely envisage the military refusing it.

"Hey, shoot down those British jets that are above a different country."

Posted by: Df82 at March 01, 2015 06:59 PM (d6Wn7)

229 yeah it is more likely to go 1. terrorists nuke American city / cities, 2. obama declares martial law, end of story.

Posted by: yankeefifth


He can't afford to frighten the awakened populace at that point. A bomb will wake them up; martial law will turn the country against him overnight.

Worst case scenario:

US city gets hit with low-yield bomb, Obama races to the nearest TV camera:
"Ladies and Germs, we will respond forthwith, henceforth, and within a fortnight!"

Drops a few bombs to ludicrous fanfare provided by the MSM and a few more speeches full of feigned indignancy and bluster.

Then nothing.

The Right of course will scream b'lady murder, but Left will insist that O-nuckle is doing e'rrythin' he can and that we need to calm down ... or else.

That's pretty much the recipe for Very Bad Things.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 01, 2015 06:59 PM (EwP4K)

230 >>Israel buys most of their DOD equipment from us, right? What if the JEF orders sales stopped?


He would bomb Israel if the Dome of the Rock wasn't there.

Posted by: Garrett at March 01, 2015 07:00 PM (FStv1)

231 Dems are now saying that it's unamerican to oppose the JEF's deal

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:58 PM (zOTsN)


While it is un-ObamiNation to do so, it definitely is American (as long as you don't spell it with a K or a backwards-R like the Rats do).

Posted by: steveegg at March 01, 2015 07:00 PM (cL79m)

232 Statesman Barry has so alienated the Saudis that they don't even talk to him.

I could very easily see the Saudis providing refueling to Israeli planes out there in that big, vast desert.

The Saudis are just as concerned about a nuclear Iran as Israel.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 01, 2015 07:00 PM (oFCZn)

233 Israel buys most of their DOD equipment from us, right? What if the JEF orders sales stopped?

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:51 PM (zOTsN)

It's a two way street. We buy a LOT of Israeli weapons AND software.
We are tied together.
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 06:58 PM (0FSuD)

Yeah no it's not. Sure Israel provides America with some technology and intelligence but Israel's physical survival is tied to America, for better or worse.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:00 PM (nzKvP)

234 Dems are now saying that it's unamerican to oppose the JEF's deal

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:58 PM (zOTsN)



It's un-American to not support the anti-American bastard's deal. Once again showing that down is up and night is day in the left's warp reality.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 07:00 PM (3UGBQ)

235 Zombie- If you are still around. You have said you are sure this story is true. Do you knowsomething more about this? Not asking what or where, just a yes or no.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 07:00 PM (zRCkz)

236 226 Dems are now saying that it's unamerican to oppose the JEF's deal

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 06:58 PM (zOTsN)

I have lost track of all the reasons I am un-American with these idiots.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2015 07:01 PM (wt/Oq)

237 227, that is an insult to Chamberlain, who --however mis-guided-was a patriot....

Posted by: JoeF. at March 01, 2015 07:01 PM (8HGb7)

238 I don't expect Netanyahu's speech to congress to be anything other than diplomatic boilerplate; something like a John McCain Speech at a GOP nominating convention.

Netanyahu will not say anything that directly and dramatically attacks Obama. There might be some indirect, vague diplo speak phrases, but nothing like a Jack Kennedy announcing that we are going to the moon, 'not because it is easy, but because it is hard'.

I don't see him saying anything openly that plainly attacks Iran. That will also be diplomatic phrases that fall harmlessly on the ears unless you understand the real meaning behind the standard talking points.

What is revealing about all of this is Obama and his follower's reaction to it.

Posted by: Clive Gentile at March 01, 2015 07:01 PM (Mr53Y)

239 >>He is a phone fuckin bastard.

WHO IS PHONE?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2015 07:03 PM (g1DWB)

240 So, Bibi speech is at 10:45 on Tuesday. Why? That's prime time in Israel



Having Netanyahu speak to Congressat 10:45 east coast time, however,
means that hewill be on the air in Israel during prime viewing time,
starting at about 5:50 p.m. (there will be a five minute delay in
Israel).

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 07:03 PM (0FSuD)

241 that is an insult to Chamberlain, who --however mis-guided-was a patriot....


Posted by: JoeF. at March 01, 2015 07:01 PM (8HGb7)


I agree. Chamberlain was misguided but he was trying to avoid the horrors of WWI at any cost. Barry is just trying to destroy this country and undermine our allies

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 07:03 PM (3UGBQ)

242 Bush presidency - Dissent is Patriotic!!!!
Obama presidency - Dissent is Unpatriotic!!!!

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 07:03 PM (AxABj)

243 Df82 : the reason I suspect (worry) that this order *would* be lawful is that I don't think Israel is in the pro-Baghdad/Basra coalition. There weren't and aren't any Israeli troops in Iraq.

Your analogy with British jets wouldn't hold; the Brits were in Basra from the start.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 01, 2015 07:04 PM (AVEe1)

244 173 All the Jews I know in real life are very left-wing. Often the most left-wing people I know. 3 come to mind, college prof, journalist, finance guy. All are socialists. Life long Democrats. Bright, successful ppl.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 01, 2015 06:40 PM (ZPrif)

And yet the cognitive dissonance is lost on them. Successful because they live in a capitalist country that allows them to succeed or fail on their own. But we are totes evil, and money should be redistributed because greedy rich!!!11eleventy!!1

I have an in-law who, although not Jewish, is a mouth-breathing Obama-bot. I can barely stand to be in the same room as her. Hubby goes to visit without me, now.

Posted by: Moki at March 01, 2015 07:05 PM (bAB8f)

245
Next week we lose an hour of sleep.

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 01, 2015 07:05 PM (iQIUe)

246 Who is Netanayahu's real audience for Tuesday's speech? I think it's Iran. He wants to show them that the US is not all as anti-Israel as Obama's gang is....

Posted by: JoeF. at March 01, 2015 07:06 PM (8HGb7)

247 Here's what we have in the USA: Fellow countrymen who profess that 9/11 was deserved; who feared that Americans would NOT die in a foreign military campaign; and who call for the extradition of a former US president to be arrested, extradited to The Hague, tried, convicted and executed for war crimes.

This has gone far beyond a conflict of worldviews.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 07:06 PM (KTXxI)

248 Next week we lose an hour of sleep.

I have a feeling it will be a lot more than that with Obama in charge....

Posted by: JoeF. at March 01, 2015 07:06 PM (8HGb7)

249 I read, somewhere on the Internet, that Michele Obama is going to attend the Netenyahu speech in full Klingon battle garb.

Uncomfirmed rumor has itbthat her guest is slated to be a trap filled with fresh Maine Lobsters.

Posted by: Garrett at March 01, 2015 07:07 PM (FStv1)

250 Who is Netanayahu's real audience for Tuesday's speech? I think it's Iran. He wants to show them that the US is not all as anti-Israel as Obama's gang is....
Posted by: JoeF. at March 01, 2015 07:06 PM (8HGb7)


No it's his electorate back home, Congress, and the American People.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:07 PM (nzKvP)

251
I agree. Chamberlain was misguided but he was trying to avoid the horrors of WWI at any cost. Barry is just trying to destroy this country and undermine our allies
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 07:03 PM (3UGBQ)

Yes and no. Chamberlain did love Britain, but he was anti-Semitic, and anti-Slavic. He had no problem selling out the Czechs and the Poles to Germany/Soviet Union.

The worst was Roosevelt. He had no problem with Poland going back to the Soviets, but begged Stalin to allow him to say he sided with the Poles, because of an upcoming election. The more I read about him, the more I despise him.

Posted by: Moki at March 01, 2015 07:07 PM (bAB8f)

252 Didn't you read the book? Stop comparing the President to my son.

Posted by: Don Corleone at March 01, 2015 07:08 PM (TqyFL)

253 When even a tinhorn socialist dictator like Chavez had the vision to declare Obama "a clown", and "an embarrassment", you would think that even Obama's supporters would get a clue.

Oh..., wait..., I don't think the three-letter networks made much of that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2015 07:09 PM (F2IAQ)

254 Posted by: Clive Gentile at March 01, 2015 07:01 PM (Mr53Y)

I think it is a 50/50 bet. On the one hand, I get your scenario, that is exactly the play it safe attitude that most politicians would take.

Netanyahu is a different kind of politician though. Unlike our politicians (or the ones we have become accustomed to) he does not seem to particularly want to be a politician- he feels he needs to be one. That makes a huge difference.

I think it is just as likely he could go into congress and break his proverbial boot off in their rear ends.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2015 07:09 PM (wt/Oq)

255 (Got dinner in the oven.)

So, has anyone *ever* heard the JEF express how *he* felt on 9/11???

Anyone???

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 07:11 PM (FsuaD)

256 All the Jews I know in real life are very left-wing.

The ones I've run into are more (politically) diverse. But then, I hang with Zionists...

The Jews I've met do feel sore about the pogroms; I do sometimes hear anti-Christian sentiment. I've had to bite my tongue a few times. This is more with the older generations.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 01, 2015 07:11 PM (AVEe1)

257 245
Next week we lose an hour of sleep.
Posted by: Bruce J.
---------------

This past Fall, I warned you that to make good use of the extra hour, because they were going to come and take it back.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2015 07:11 PM (F2IAQ)

258
So, has anyone *ever* heard the JEF express how *he* felt on 9/11???


He was passing out candy.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 07:12 PM (MMC8r)

259 The worst was Roosevelt. He had no problem with
Poland going back to the Soviets, but begged Stalin to allow him to say
he sided with the Poles, because of an upcoming election. The more I
read about him, the more I despise him.

Posted by: Moki at March 01, 2015 07:07 PM (bAB8f)


FDR was one of the worst presidents and commie dictatorial bastard to boot.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 07:12 PM (3UGBQ)

260 "So, has anyone *ever* heard the JEF express how *he* felt on 9/11???"

I'm sure his feelings on the matter are still evolving.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 01, 2015 07:12 PM (KTXxI)

261 If you had to follow a leader into battle, who would you chose? Bibi, with war fighting credentials, or JEF, with community organizing credentials.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 07:12 PM (AxABj)

262 If you had to follow a leader into battle, who would you chose?

Nigel Farage.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 01, 2015 07:13 PM (AVEe1)

263 So, has anyone *ever* heard the JEF express how *he* felt on 9/11???





Allahu Akbar

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 07:13 PM (3UGBQ)

264 If you had to follow a leader into battle, who would you chose? JEF, with community organizing credentials.
Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 07:12 PM (AxABj)

Pretty low bar there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:14 PM (nzKvP)

265 So, has anyone *ever* heard the JEF express how *he* felt on 9/11???

Anyone???
Posted by: Jane
-------------------

Oh, man...., I was so stoned. I kinda missed the entire thing. It wasn't until the next day that I was able to feel really good about it.

Posted by: Barky at March 01, 2015 07:14 PM (F2IAQ)

266 I'm just spitballing here, but I imagine Choom Boy was celebrating the fall of the Twin Towers. Because we "deserved" it.

Prezzy Thin-Skinned. Just imagine what he has planned. And Congress will do nothing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 07:14 PM (FsuaD)

267 If the JEF were a smart man, a pro American man, he would use this speech to get more out of iran. To squeeze them.


He ain't

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:14 PM (zOTsN)

268 The Russian that got shot? He was 46 and fcuking a 23 year old. Had been fcuking her for four years. A hot ginger from the Ukraine. He had four kids with three different women.



How to fat old guys get that kind of hot stuff?



Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 07:15 PM (0FSuD)

269 I'm just spitballing here, but I imagine Choom Boy was celebrating the fall of the Twin Towers. Because we "deserved" it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208t80uceSg

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 01, 2015 07:16 PM (AVEe1)

270 Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 07:15 PM (0FSuD)


Nip,
Money, power and fat. You just need to eat better.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 01, 2015 07:17 PM (WNERA)

271 If you had to follow a leader into battle, who would you chose? A pissed-off oyster , or JEF, with community organizing credentials.

--------------

Just saying.
I'd go with the oyster.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2015 07:17 PM (F2IAQ)

272 This administration leaked ghe existence of a secret military arrangement between Israel and Azerbaijan. They leaked the existence, location, and plans and specifications for the secret Arrow 3 antimissle installation in Israel. They have openly interfered in the 2015 elections in Israel. The agreement with Iran they are pushing makes Iranian nuclear weapons inevitable. Would they threaten to shoot down Israeli aircraft? Of course they would.

Posted by: Edgar Allan SchmoeQ at March 01, 2015 07:17 PM (OLFrt)

273 >>'m just spitballing here, but I imagine Choom Boy was celebrating the fall of the Twin Towers. Because we "deserved" it.

Well his pal, Rev. Wright, exclaimed that America's chickens ere coming home to roost, so I imagine Obama's reaction was close to that, at minimum.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2015 07:17 PM (lHHyw)

274 I'm sure Obama had something to say about "understanding the legitimate grievances of the 9/11 terrorists".

Posted by: Lauren at March 01, 2015 07:17 PM (MYCIw)

275 I'm just spitballing here, but I imagine Choom Boy was celebrating the fall of the Twin Towers. Because we "deserved" it.
------------------

Yeah..., it was only 'fair'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2015 07:18 PM (F2IAQ)

276 I'm just spitballing here, but I imagine Choom Boy was celebrating the fall of the Twin Towers. Because we "deserved" it.
------------------

Yeah..., it was only 'fair'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2015 07:18 PM (F2IAQ)

277 How to fat old guys get that kind of hot stuff?

.....................

Let'$ $ee, what could it po$$ibly be?

Posted by: Molly k. at March 01, 2015 07:18 PM (yB/19)

278
Well his pal, Rev. Wright, exclaimed that
America's chickens ere coming home to roost, so I imagine Obama's
reaction was close to that, at minimum.


Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2015 07:17 PM (lHHyw)


I'm sure that Bolshie Barry was cheering that. Funny how the MFM never called Barry out on that. Oh that's right bringing up Rev. Wright was racist

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 07:18 PM (3UGBQ)

279 Jane- one google search of his comments will make you want to throw that lovely salmon in the trash.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 07:18 PM (zRCkz)

280 according to this administration anyone that didn't vote Obama was unpatriotic.

because America iks america because of Obama.
remember the Halo adorning Obama?
He is their america and messiah.

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 07:19 PM (nqBYe)

281 my landing strip is awesome

Posted by: ValJar44 at March 01, 2015 07:20 PM (pIhxB)

282 266: Considering he attended a "liberation theology" church with a fire breathing, American hating, racist pastor for 20+ years. Yes, that "spitballing" isn't much of a stretch.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at March 01, 2015 07:20 PM (20X6f)

283
My least favorite day of the year, besides my birthday, is Spring Forward Day.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:21 PM (hbvPW)

284 Netanyahu has landed in the US

A member of his entourage says he will reveal the details of the deal with Iran.


Details the JEF has kept secret

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:21 PM (zOTsN)

285 I would follow Bibi without shoes where the sand burnt my feet forever. TFG not likely.

Posted by: Ms. M at March 01, 2015 07:22 PM (MBEYv)

286
Spring forward, my ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:22 PM (hbvPW)

287 Congress uninformed on Iran deal while Israel already knows a lot, Israeli official says

The official also said that any deal worked out would not be called a treaty or an agreement, but rather a joint comprehensive plan of action, or something similar. The reason would be to avoid having to bring to congress a ratification.

Sounds a lot like what Fredo would do to circumvent Congress. Cock sucker

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:22 PM (nzKvP)

288 How to fat old guys get that kind of hot stuff?

Heheheheheh.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 01, 2015 07:23 PM (MMC8r)

289 Nip,

Money, power and fat. You just need to eat better.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 01, 2015 07:17 PM (WNERA)

I mean, the guy is fcuking a girl half his age. I would think she would wear his ass/dick out.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 07:23 PM (0FSuD)

290 LIKE, TOTALLY BELIEVABLE !!!

NO WONDER BIB HAS NOT BOMBED IRAN !!!

Posted by: PLINY THE ELDER at March 01, 2015 07:24 PM (i5wUE)

291 He means to enter a treaty

Without Congress

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:24 PM (zOTsN)

292
What are the owlets doing right now? I heard that one of the owls got into Harvard.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:24 PM (hbvPW)

293 Sounds a lot like what Fredo would do to circumvent Congress.
--------
He's been doing that since he lost the house in 2010. And getting away with it.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 07:24 PM (AxABj)

294 A member of his entourage says he will reveal the details of the deal with Iran.

If Snowden were to reveal details it would be wonderful.
If Bibi does it then it is disgraceful.

Posted by: Diane Frankemstein at March 01, 2015 07:24 PM (W5DcG)

295 "Sounds a lot like what Fredo would do to circumvent Congress. Cock sucker"

Yes, yes it does.

Posted by: Lauren at March 01, 2015 07:24 PM (MYCIw)

296 Sounds a lot like what Fredo would do to circumvent Congress. Cock sucker

The cock suckERS in this bathhouse daisy-chain would be the Republicans in the Senate, if they don't call shenanigans on "joint comprehensive plan of action" being somehow not a treaty.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 01, 2015 07:25 PM (AVEe1)

297 >>>> How to fat old guys get that kind of hot stuff?


do you know how fat my wallet and checkbook are?

Posted by: 81yo billionairs club member #3 at March 01, 2015 07:25 PM (pIhxB)

298 He means to enter a treaty

Without Congress
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:24 PM (zOTsN)


He can't enter a "Treaty" without Congress. But he can come to an "Agreement" without Congress.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:25 PM (nzKvP)

299 Sounds like Bibi's coming to throw the shit into the fan.

No wonder that America-hating bastard is wetting his pants.

Walk out, Dems. You won't keep the lid on it.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 01, 2015 07:25 PM (MMC8r)

300 Entering a treaty with out ratification of Congress


Impeachment. Thoughts?

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:26 PM (zOTsN)

301 Sooth, they're just cuddled up right now waiting for Mom to bring home some chow.
landingsbirdcam.com

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 07:26 PM (AxABj)

302 Icky sock off.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 07:26 PM (MMC8r)

303 If it walks like a treaty and quacks like a treaty

It's a treaty

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:27 PM (zOTsN)

304
So, story has been out for hours, and as yet no denial and denunciation from the Administration and the Democrats?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 01, 2015 07:27 PM (kdS6q)

305 >>Entering a treaty with out ratification of Congress


A treaty with an ENEMY of America w/out Congress.
Treason?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2015 07:27 PM (lHHyw)

306 Mitch McConnell is drafting a suitable treaty even as we speak.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 07:27 PM (MMC8r)

307 I mean, the guy is fcuking a girl half his age. I would think she would wear his ass/dick out.
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 07:23 PM (0FSuD)


Yo!

'Sup, That is what I'm built for

Posted by: 25yo guys on the side, w/ vigor at March 01, 2015 07:28 PM (pIhxB)

308 Sort of like that "Agreement" that Clintoon came to with Ukraine. No force of law, and it can be ignored at will.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 07:28 PM (AxABj)

309 Unless it's a tax

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:28 PM (zOTsN)

310 Memo of Understanding ( like we did to Ukraine). Iran admits nothing, gets everything.

Obama claims historic victory, return to normalcy. Same with Cuba.

Posted by: Clive Gentile at March 01, 2015 07:28 PM (Mr53Y)

311 I'm against Netanyahu going to Congress. I feel it is needlessly provacitive. He could say the same things at the AIPAC speech he is giving tomorrow. But fuck at this point in for a dime, in for a dollar, he might as well let it all hang out on Tuesday go for the Full Monty.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:28 PM (nzKvP)

312 "A treaty with an ENEMY of America w/out Congress.
Treason?"

Giving our enemy a nuke.

Posted by: Lauren at March 01, 2015 07:28 PM (MYCIw)

313 Nevergiveup, perhaps that is a sign of Hope?
we know how much agreements OR treaties mean to the Dems.

look at Ukraine.

jack shit.

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 07:28 PM (nqBYe)

314 Ignoring enforcement


Like the border?


It's giving them the bomb

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:29 PM (zOTsN)

315 The state dept has already admitted in their harfings that they have not kept Israel appraised of all the details in the talks.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 07:29 PM (zRCkz)

316 I mean, the guy is fcuking a girl half his age. I would think she would wear his ass/dick out.

Remember Donald Sterling? 84 years old, 30 something whore mistress? At that point, it's at most a BJ, and probably not that often.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 07:29 PM (MMC8r)

317 Louisiana cops caught lying to get an innocent man thrown in prison:
http://tinyurl.com/ob336cr

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 01, 2015 07:30 PM (AVEe1)

318 The state dept has already admitted in their harfings that they have not kept Israel appraised of all the details in the talks.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 07:29 PM (zRCkz)

It's cute you think we can actually keep a secret?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:30 PM (nzKvP)

319 I'm against Netanyahu going to Congress
-----
You've said that before and made some pretty good arguments. But, the die is cast. Best go for the jugular now.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 07:31 PM (AxABj)

320 >>Remember Donald Sterling? 84 years old, 30 something whore mistress?
At that point, it's at most a BJ, and probably not that often.

And she sold him out quite shamelessly. So not exactly quality a$$.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2015 07:31 PM (lHHyw)

321 I am pretty sure the Israelis know what's in the deal

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:31 PM (zOTsN)

322 Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:28 PM (nzKvP)

At this point, I'm all for Netanyahu going to Congress, and I hope he tells them exactly what Obama's done on live TV.

Posted by: Cato at March 01, 2015 07:32 PM (3HxZe)

323 Sheeit.... you aint seen nutin yet.Wait until next year.


Posted by: reg at March 01, 2015 07:32 PM (K+RBk)

324 You've said that before and made some pretty good arguments. But, the die is cast. Best go for the jugular now.
Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 07:31 PM (AxABj)


Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:32 PM (nzKvP)

325
Similar to the proposed deals with the palestines, I'd guess.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:32 PM (hbvPW)

326 Damn shit-weasels and their appeasement-based diplomacy are going to cause WWIII.

Posted by: Cato at March 01, 2015 07:33 PM (3HxZe)

327 But you have to admit, it's got the CBC, the admin, and a bunch of the Dem's panties in a wad. If he can give those f*cks an atomic wedgie, I'm all for it.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 07:33 PM (AxABj)

328 If you like your Jewish state, you can keep your Jewish state.


Trust us. We'd never lie.

Posted by: Hussein Clown Posse at March 01, 2015 07:34 PM (OVx7B)

329 O/T

This is a shocker. Anna Marie Cox of Wonkette, I like anal, comes out as a Christian.




http://tinyurl.com/op5ur25

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 07:34 PM (0FSuD)

330 Damn shit-weasels and their appeasement-based diplomacy are going to cause WWIII.
Posted by: Cato at March 01, 2015 07:33 PM (3HxZe)

That's how it usually works

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:34 PM (nzKvP)

331 The central issue is this:

Would American pilots honor the order?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 01, 2015 07:34 PM (V70Uh)

332 Starting World War III will probably get him another Peace Prize.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 07:35 PM (MMC8r)

333 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 01, 2015 07:35 PM (4gN5w)

334

...and an Oscar...and another Emmy

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:37 PM (hbvPW)

335 This is a shocker. Anna Marie Cox of Wonkette, I like anal, comes out as a Christian.




http://tinyurl.com/op5ur25


Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 07:34 PM (0FSuD)

If she's sincere, good for her.

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 07:38 PM (TEpA2)

336 Nevergiveup- No, I think the state dept thinks they can keep a secret. Whenpsakofpshit is asked about this directlyand deflects I think they know they haven't kept a lid on this. Any guesses on which of the +4 other members it was?

Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 07:38 PM (zRCkz)

337 LegalInsurrection sez:

>>EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Hezbollah Flag Raised at Anti-AIPAC protest

Link in name.

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 01, 2015 07:38 PM (0xTsz)

338 Would American pilots honor the order?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 01, 2015 07:34 PM (V70Uh)

I'd hate to even contemplate that senario.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:38 PM (nzKvP)

339 Not surprised ubama threatened to shoot down our Israeli allies planes if they harmed muslims. He is a well known corksoaker.

Posted by: Eromero at March 01, 2015 07:38 PM (go5uR)

340
March 1st...and it brings another 4" of snow tonight.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:38 PM (hbvPW)

341
I hate March.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:39 PM (hbvPW)

342 I hate March.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Low temp tomorrow night -10.

Posted by: fairweatherbill bracing for the cold at March 01, 2015 07:40 PM (oUp+w)

343 I hate March.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:39 PM (hbvPW)

Me too.

Posted by: Julius Caesar at March 01, 2015 07:40 PM (AC0lD)

344 BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, - BOMB BOMB IRAN
Harmony BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, - BOMB BOMB IRAN
All together now, BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, - BOMB BOMB IRAN
BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, - BOMB BOMB IRAN
BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, - BOMB BOMB IRAN
Ya got me rockin' and a rollin, rockin' and a reelin' BOMB IRAN
- BOMB, BOMB - BOMB BOMB IRAN/:

Posted by: PLINY THE ELDER at March 01, 2015 07:41 PM (i5wUE)

345
btw, Easter is April 5th this year, which is 5 more Sundays from today

that's why you see Peeps at the supermarket

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:41 PM (hbvPW)

346 Nevergiveup- No, I think the state dept thinks they can keep a secret. Whenpsakofpshit is asked about this directlyand deflects I think they know they haven't kept a lid on this. Any guesses on which of the +4 other members it was?
Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 07:38 PM (zRCkz)

I "assume" it was our own government. There are still probably some real Americans left who have hidden their patriotism. And Israel also is not unable to surreptitiously intercept communications

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:41 PM (nzKvP)

347 "If she's sincere, good for her."

She's not. It's a whine piece complaining about people questioning Obama's Christianity.

"No, I'm nervous to come out as a Christian because I worry I'm not good enough of one. I'm not scared that non-believers will make me feel an outcast. I'm scared that Christians will."

Posted by: Lauren at March 01, 2015 07:41 PM (MYCIw)

348 I hate March.

Gotta be better than February.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2015 07:42 PM (W5DcG)

349 This is a shocker. Anna Marie Cox of Wonkette, I like anal, comes out as a Christian.

For a sufficiently lax definition of 'Christian.'

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 07:42 PM (MMC8r)

350
If Iran successfully nuked Israel,


Why would they bother suiciding when they could just donkey-cart the bombs to ALL the oil fields and Mecca?

Posted by: DaveA at March 01, 2015 07:42 PM (DL2i+)

351 This is a shocker. Anna Marie Cox of Wonkette, I like anal, comes out as a Christian.

Seems to have happened after she left DC.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 01, 2015 07:42 PM (AVEe1)

352 March is traditionally Colorado's snowiest month. I am not pleased. I have a four foot icicle hanging on my front porch. I'm waiting to see if it makes it to the deck. I'm waiting for another color than white in my front yard.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 07:43 PM (AxABj)

353
March is just one big long fake out. It's still Winter but it tricks you into thinking Spring is around the corner.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:44 PM (hbvPW)

354 Lousy Smarch weather.

Posted by: Homer Simpson at March 01, 2015 07:45 PM (T0MiM)

355 Since we're in a lull...there is a commentary in the NY Post about femenist men trying to figure out a date/the method thereof.



http://preview.tinyurl.com/loo8x63

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 07:45 PM (TEpA2)

356 jooh again?

Posted by: Ron Paul Institiue at March 01, 2015 07:45 PM (pIhxB)

357 331 The central issue is this:

Would American pilots honor the order?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 01, 2015 07:34 PM (V70Uh)

I think that they would.

And John Fucking Kerry who served in Nam has th balls to go on Sunday shows and say Israel has never had it better with the USA. Fuck you to tears

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 01, 2015 07:45 PM (4ka5+)

358 March is filled with MADNESS!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2015 07:45 PM (W5DcG)

359 March is just one big long fake out. It's still Winter but it tricks you into thinking Spring is around the corner.

April is the cruelest month...

Last year we in the Boulder area had a snowstorm in mid MAY.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 01, 2015 07:46 PM (AVEe1)

360 Stent Hoyer went to AIPAC today


I see quiet defections

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:46 PM (zOTsN)

361 >>He sponsored it and then sat on it, efffectively killing it. He is a phone fuckin bastard.

Actually, he didn't sit on it. The course of events here Kirk and Menendez announce the sanctions bill. Netanyahu supported it. Obama then says that if the bill passes Congress he would veto it. The very next day Boehner invited Netanyahu to give the speech.

I understand that some feel it is not a good idea for Netanyahu to give this speech but I really don't think he had any choice. Obama is selling his country out and Netanyahu, whatever you think of him, loves his country.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2015 07:46 PM (g1DWB)

362 Sorry, it's just nothing bothers me more than someone whining about those mean conservatives who just don't understand their special butterfly faith.

"Obama and I are Christians! Stop judging us! Only God can Judge!"

Bitch, please.

Posted by: Lauren at March 01, 2015 07:46 PM (MYCIw)

363
Incidentally, I looked at my drivers license yesterday and noticed the exp date is 2019. It made me wonder what things will be like in such a futuristic such as 2019.

My intuition tells me to stock up on matches/lighters.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:47 PM (hbvPW)

364 if Netinyahu confirmed this during a joint-session of Congress.

A recording, with Bibi replying Go Fuck Yourself, instant gold record.

Posted by: DaveA at March 01, 2015 07:47 PM (DL2i+)

365 355 Since we're in a lull...there is a commentary in the NY Post about femenist men trying to figure out a date/the method thereof.



http://preview.tinyurl.com/loo8x63

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 07:45 PM (TEpA2)


My advice:

Listen to what a woman says she wants from a man and then do the exact opposite.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 01, 2015 07:47 PM (oFCZn)

366 I would be happy if he were pro american

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:47 PM (zOTsN)

367 Think it was 2004. They had predicted 3 inches of snow, and I wound up with 36 inches on the porch. One of my favorite bowling centers had the roof collapse. Colorado can get some awesome storms this time of year.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 07:48 PM (AxABj)

368 360 Stent Hoyer went to AIPAC today


I see quiet defections

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:46 PM (zOTsN)


I'm sure Stent was a typo but considering his age I find that hilarious.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 01, 2015 07:48 PM (oFCZn)

369 "No, I'm nervous to come out as a Christian because I
worry I'm not good enough of one. I'm not scared that non-believers
will make me feel an outcast. I'm scared that Christians will."





Posted by: Lauren at March 01, 2015 07:41 PM (MYCIw)



*Bangs head against wall*

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 07:48 PM (TEpA2)

370
Regardless of the prologue, Netanyahu is best served going to Congress to speak.

ALL the MSM is going to be forced to cover it.

And perhaps shortly after that Iran needs to experience an EMP event--or two.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 01, 2015 07:48 PM (jeCnD)

371 Actually, he didn't sit on it. The course of events here Kirk and Menendez announce the sanctions bill. Netanyahu supported it. Obama then says that if the bill passes Congress he would veto it. The very next day Boehner invited Netanyahu to give the speech.

I understand that some feel it is not a good idea for Netanyahu to give this speech but I really don't think he had any choice. Obama is selling his country out and Netanyahu, whatever you think of him, loves his country.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2015 07:46 PM (g1DWB)


Sure he sat on it. Memendez announce he would not support bringing the Bill to a full Senate Vote till AFTER the conclusion of the Iran negotiations at the request of Fredo.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:48 PM (nzKvP)

372 It made me wonder what things will be like in such a futuristic such as 2019.

Flying cars!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2015 07:49 PM (W5DcG)

373
Truly, we are within a whisker of The Future with such years as 2020 just 4.75 years away and as a civilization, I must say, we are not living up to the hype.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:49 PM (hbvPW)

374 O/T The owlets are getting their wing feathers in. In the next couple of weeks they'll be exploring the tree branches, 75 ft. off the ground. And a week or so after will be flying.

(posted this to piss off the owl-haters)

Anyhow, our salmon and salad were delicious.

And now my guilty pleasure, Atlanta Whorewifes, is coming up. (Hey, I need something to come down from my hatred of the SCOAMF and his minions. Don't judge.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 07:49 PM (FsuaD)

375 >>Bitch, please.

Yeah, forgive me if I don't accept her defense of Obama.

I am happy she has faith, but coming out as a Christian just to protect President Boyfriend, who is currently working against Israel....?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2015 07:49 PM (lHHyw)

376
366 I would be happy if he were pro american
Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:47 PM (zOTsN)

Mother. Pro-choice. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 01, 2015 07:50 PM (4ka5+)

377 Nevergiveup- Iwas thinking it might be the French. Even though they do alot of business with iran they seem to be very worried about losing their Jewish communities.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 07:50 PM (zRCkz)

378 Truly, we are within a whisker of The Future with such years as 2020 just 4.75 years away and as a civilization, I must say, we are not living up to the hype.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:49 PM (hbvPW)
---
Where the hell is my jetpack?!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 01, 2015 07:50 PM (KH1sk)

379
I expected...more.

What I didn't expect is for this Israel bullshit to be still going on or be in a half-assed world war with Muslim barbarians.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:50 PM (hbvPW)

380 My advice:



Listen to what a woman says she wants from a man and then do the exact opposite.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 01, 2015 07:47 PM (oFCZn)


Yup, unless you get that diamond in the rough.

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 07:50 PM (TEpA2)

381 Anna Marie Cox seems to understand the Christian doctrines as they pertain to her own position.

If she can't see how these doctrines pertain to Obama's position, then she shouldn't bring them up. She should leave them to people who can do cladistic analysis. (In simple English, if someone is born to a couple of commies, and is raised by commies, and spends all his life supporting commie causes, and starts his political-career in commie Bill Ayers's parlour then HE MIGHT BE A COMMIE. Which means, among other things, not a Christian.)

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 01, 2015 07:50 PM (AVEe1)

382 Nevergiveup- Iwas thinking it might be the French. Even though they do alot of business with iran they seem to be very worried about losing their Jewish communities.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 07:50 PM (zRCkz)


what makes you think the Fredo Admin is sharing this info with the Euro's?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 07:50 PM (nzKvP)

383
We'll be lucky to have flying airplanes in 2020. Or at least afford to run them.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:51 PM (hbvPW)

384 366 I would be happy if he were pro american

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:47 PM (zOTsN)



Mother. Pro-choice. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 01, 2015 07:50 PM (4ka5+)


Explanation??

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 07:52 PM (TEpA2)

385 So, has anyone *ever* heard the JEF express how *he* felt on 9/11???

Anyone???

---

Hey, as people mentioned yesterday, I'm like Spock. Feelings are illogical.


Also, I've never felt so proud of my co-ideologists.

Posted by: Pres'nt Obama at March 01, 2015 07:52 PM (MYPM9)

386 At this point, I'm all for Netanyahu going to Congress, and I hope he tells them exactly what Obama's done on live TV.

Posted by: Cato at March 01, 2015 07:32 PM (3HxZe)


Starting with his glory hole attendant days right up to the present

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 07:53 PM (3UGBQ)

387 Nothing this sociopathic administration does would surprise me anymore. However if it is true BibiN needs to go to the press with this. It would help to oust every last vestige of this vile administration in 2016.

Posted by: transgendered quokka at March 01, 2015 07:53 PM (3F6F8)

388 According to talking heads,the French are not happy with iran getting the bomb either


Don't forget the French have big oil interests in the region through Total

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:54 PM (zOTsN)

389 Where the hell is my jetpack?!
Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 01, 2015

RIP Little Timmy Wilson

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 01, 2015 07:54 PM (4ka5+)

390 >>Sure he sat on it. Memendez announce he would not support bringing the Bill to a full Senate Vote till AFTER the conclusion of the Iran negotiations at the request of Fredo.

Yea, well when the president says go ahead and pass it now and I will veto it it doesn't make a ton of sense to do it. The msm would have downplayed it and it would have disappeared into the ether.

They sure as hell can't ignore it now and I bet Bibi makes an explicit call in his speech to pass tougher sanctions immediately. Menendez has already said he will be at the speech. Obama is going to be in a very awkward spot after this speech.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2015 07:54 PM (g1DWB)

391 However if it is true BibiN needs to go to the press
with this. It would help to oust every last vestige of this vile
administration in 2016.

Posted by: transgendered quokka at March 01, 2015 07:53 PM (3F6F


MFM: Go to the press? ahahaha.. err...yeah, we'll get right on it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 07:54 PM (3UGBQ)

392 349
This is a shocker. Anna Marie Cox of Wonkette, I like anal, comes out as a Christian.



For a sufficiently lax definition of 'Christian.'

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 07:42 PM (MMC8r)

****************
It's a journey, and she started a long way away. Let's pray that she gets to some actual Bible reading, goes to a church, serves God, and learns more about what being Christian means.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at March 01, 2015 07:54 PM (5f5bM)

393 385
So, has anyone *ever* heard the JEF express how *he* felt on 9/11???

Anyone???


Full after all of the celebratory cake.
Tipsy after all of the champagne.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 01, 2015 07:55 PM (AC0lD)

394 Nothing this sociopathic administration does would surprise me anymore. However if it is true BibiN needs to go to the press with this.

I'm sure that they will be receiving full briefing materials the moment Bibi begins his speech.

Of course, the US press will bury it. The foreign press will have to make sure it gets out.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 07:55 PM (MMC8r)

395


Explanation??
Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 07:52 PM (TEpA2

Obamas mom and whatever tool

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 01, 2015 07:56 PM (4ka5+)

396 AIPAC is telling delegates to lobby for the menendez/corker bill

So it isn't dead. It's resting

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 07:56 PM (zOTsN)

397
Ana Marie Cox is as Christian as the Archbishop of Canterbury. She's full of shit and is using the opportunity to scold Other.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:56 PM (hbvPW)

398 Okay, before I go off to kill the rest of my brain cells watching "Housewives," can we sum up this thread?

Obama hates America and Israel.

That is all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 07:57 PM (FsuaD)

399 It'd also be nice if Bibi included his college transcripts and the Khalidi tape.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 07:57 PM (MMC8r)

400 We'll be lucky to have flying airplanes in 2020. Or at least afford to run them.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:51 PM (hbvPW)


Well, looks like I got a job to do!

Posted by: Leibowitz at March 01, 2015 07:59 PM (0Ew3K)

401 It'd also be nice if Bibi included his college transcripts and the Khalidi tape.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 07:57 PM (MMC8r)


A sea of D-s

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2015 07:59 PM (3UGBQ)

402 We'll be lucky to have flying airplanes in 2020. Or at least afford to run them.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:51 PM (hbvPW)


And cars being pulled by horses.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2015 07:59 PM (W5DcG)

403
btw, is it in The Bible stuff about tattooing your body?

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:59 PM (hbvPW)

404 Yea, well when the president says go ahead and pass it now and I will veto it it doesn't make a ton of sense to do it.

Menendez specifically said he would not force a full Senate Vote so as not to embarrass the President before negotiations are concluded. Melendez is a skunk. I'm from NJ and this stunt of his was just to cover his ass with his Jewish donors.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 08:00 PM (nzKvP)

405 Nevergiveup- The French are part of the P+5 talks and I haven't seen anywhere that there have been any one on one talks between iran and the US. Unless someone has seen o's letter writing campaign the ayatollah.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 08:00 PM (zRCkz)

406 >>Obama hates America and Israel.


....and it seems there's nothing he won't consider "off the table" when it comes to preventing Israel from protecting herself, including military action against Israel, even in service to an enemy of America, Iran.

That is A LOT.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2015 08:01 PM (lHHyw)

407 Leviticus19:28. No marks or gashes. They are,pagan symbols

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at March 01, 2015 08:01 PM (zOTsN)

408 The French are part of the P+5 talks and I haven't seen anywhere that there have been any one on one talks between iran and the US. Unless someone has seen o's letter writing campaign the ayatollah.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 08:00 PM (zRCkz)
????

Horseface kerry has been meeting one on one with the nuclear negotiator for Iran.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 08:02 PM (nzKvP)

409
Yeah, pagan symbols.

And our bodies are temples.

I'm so sick of having to see all the graffiti on people's ugly bodies today.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 08:02 PM (hbvPW)

410 Ugh - "would", not "won't."

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2015 08:02 PM (lHHyw)

411 Obama sure has a funny way of keeping things off and on the proverbial table.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 01, 2015 08:02 PM (4ka5+)

412 403


btw, is it in The Bible stuff about tattooing your body?

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 07:59 PM (hbvPW)


Hope not. D'oh Boy has the Eagle, Globe and Anchor on left shoulder.

And another one on right shoulder. (An ode to Guns and Roses...I literally cried and told him not to come home. Ever.)


You can't sling a dead cat outside ANY Marine Corps base without hitting multiple tat parlors and strip clubs.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 08:04 PM (FsuaD)

413 385
So, has anyone *ever* heard the JEF express how *he* felt on 9/11???

http://nypost.com/2015/02/28/when-obama-refused-to-blame-islam-for-terrorism/

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 08:05 PM (nqBYe)

414 Spring training games start Tuesday.

Now don't you feel better?

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 01, 2015 08:05 PM (WNERA)

415 >>Menendez specifically said he would not force a full Senate Vote so as not to embarrass the President before negotiations are concluded. Melendez is a skunk. I'm from NJ and this stunt of his was just to cover his ass with his Jewish donors.

We'll find out on March 24th. That's when the negotiations on a framework are ending and that is when Menendez said he would hold until.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2015 08:05 PM (g1DWB)

416 Nevergiveup- Thanks. I come here to be better informed and I am never disappointed.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 01, 2015 08:05 PM (zRCkz)

417 Never in my life have I been so troubled about my country and the state of the world. I wonder if this is how Churchill felt prior to May 10, 1940.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 08:05 PM (AxABj)

418 417

Churchill knew he had to get America involved.
Who will save our ass?

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 01, 2015 08:06 PM (WNERA)

419 We'll find out on March 24th. That's when the negotiations on a framework are ending and that is when Menendez said he would hold until.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2015 08:05 PM (g1DWB)

Well if Fredo can't fold like a cheap chair by then and give in to all Iran's demands, he will blame Netanyahu for coming to Washington

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 08:07 PM (nzKvP)

420 It sure is too bad George W. Bush messed up relations with Israel so badly, and Obama has to do so much to fix things with Netanyahu.

Posted by: LIV at March 01, 2015 08:07 PM (MYPM9)

421 Churchill knew he had to get America involved.

Who will save our ass?

---

Help me, Obi Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope.

Posted by: America 2016 at March 01, 2015 08:08 PM (MYPM9)

422 Maybe, just maybe

Netanyahu is to Islamism

what

Joe McCarthy was to communism

Posted by: seamrog at March 01, 2015 08:08 PM (o7aDy)

423 Now don't you feel better?
Posted by: Bob from table9 at March

A little bit

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 01, 2015 08:08 PM (4ka5+)

424 Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 01, 2015 08:06 PM (WNERA)

I don't think the West has another Churchill. We be fucked.

Posted by: Cato at March 01, 2015 08:08 PM (3HxZe)

425 This is a shocker. Anna Marie Cox of Wonkette, I like anal, comes out as a Christian.




http://tinyurl.com/op5ur25


Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 07:34 PM (0FSuD)

If she's sincere, good for her.

-
I suspect she's the kind of Christian who tells God what's right and wrong.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 01, 2015 08:08 PM (E1oei)

426 All we need to know post election the JEF, is his first week in office, he sent the Bust of Churchill to the British embassy.

A huge F*ck You.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 08:08 PM (FsuaD)

427 Obama is to Islamism

as

Obama is to corrupt government agencies

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 01, 2015 08:09 PM (MYPM9)

428 nuclear power, just open up a window and hold out the plug for your appliance.

Pantex - we bring bad things to the light.

Posted by: DaveA at March 01, 2015 08:09 PM (DL2i+)

429 So the Mossad sees the second holocaust and of course they will do nothing to punish the enablers?

Posted by: drunkinmesa at March 01, 2015 08:10 PM (rLtIA)

430
Well, in a parallel universe I'm president and the first thing I did was toss obama's and clinton's and carter's portraits in the trash.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 08:10 PM (hbvPW)

431 I don't think the West has another Churchill.

---

We might have a Mosquemound.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 01, 2015 08:10 PM (MYPM9)

432 I told president Obama he was running a huge risk letting Iran get the bomb. I was there to advise him but he didn't take my advice and now as the next president I have to fix this without putting the world at war. Just so many things he messed up it may take 3 terms to fix them all.

Posted by: President Hillary Clinton (signed with autopen) at March 01, 2015 08:10 PM (WNERA)

433
I urinated on them first, though.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 08:11 PM (hbvPW)

434 So, Capt. Rick Perry, USAF, spoke at CPAC and was totally focused on the thread of Islamic terrorism to the US.

But....RAND PAUL!!1111!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 08:11 PM (FsuaD)

435 Well I have to get ready to be pissed tomorrow so night all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 01, 2015 08:11 PM (nzKvP)

436 Leviticus19:28. No marks or gashes. They are,pagan symbols

The Levitican laws don't apply to Christians. That's why we don't keep kosher. Jesus established a new covenant, wiping away the one that had existed before. As Caesar said above, it's a journey. I'll be interested to see if her position on abortion evolves. It's bedrock doctrine in the circles she runs with, but I can't think of a single thing more against the teachings of Christ. If she opens her heart to the Holy Spirit, she'll learn. She has publicly and loudly professed her faith. That's not nothing. ESPECIALLY for a leftist.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 08:11 PM (WvS3w)

437 Name one action Obama has taken on the global stage that would lead you to disbelieve this claim. Just one.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 01, 2015 08:13 PM (XO6WW)

438 417 Never in my life have I been so troubled about my country and the state of the world. I wonder if this is how Churchill felt prior to May 10, 1940.
Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 08:05 PM (AxABj)
--------------------
When you feel that way, just think of the Crusades. Then you will realize that we deserve whatever havoc is wrought upon us, and this will give peace and satisfaction to your soul.

Nah, what I meant to say is, "join the club".

Posted by: transgendered quokka at March 01, 2015 08:14 PM (cIoI4)

439
The Levitican laws don't apply to Christians.
That's why we don't keep kosher. Jesus established a new covenant,
wiping away the one that had existed before. As Caesar said above, it's a
journey. I'll be interested to see if her position on abortion evolves.
It's bedrock doctrine in the circles she runs with, but I can't think
of a single thing more against the teachings of Christ. If she opens her
heart to the Holy Spirit, she'll learn. She has publicly and loudly
professed her faith. That's not nothing. ESPECIALLY for a leftist.


Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 08:11 PM (WvS3w)


Thank. You.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 08:14 PM (FsuaD)

440 Nite NGU

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 01, 2015 08:14 PM (4ka5+)

441 Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 08:11 PM (WvS3w)

Great points, and it really is between her and God. That said, it'd be nice for enlightenment to smack her upside the head with the clue bat sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Cato at March 01, 2015 08:14 PM (3HxZe)

442 Never in my life have I been so troubled about my country and the state
of the world. I wonder if this is how Churchill felt prior to May 10,
1940.

Posted by: Old Blue at March 01, 2015 08:05 PM (AxABj)

--------------------

When you feel that way, just think of the Crusades. Then you will
realize that we deserve whatever havoc is wrought upon us, and this will
give peace and satisfaction to your soul.

---

And get off your high horse!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 01, 2015 08:15 PM (MYPM9)

443 'Night all. Off to relax my stressed brain cells watching mindless crap on TV.

(It literally lowers my blood pressure. So there's that.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 08:15 PM (FsuaD)

444 21

IF this is true and IF at some point in the future an

Iranian built bomb is detonated, the the blood of all those who die will

be directly on Obama's hands.


I bet that thought costs the president not one second of sleep.

The sonovabitch was willing to leave babies who survived late term abortions to die in a janitor's closet. Why is this a shocking revelation.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 01, 2015 08:16 PM (XO6WW)

445 ANAL MARIE COX ?

Posted by: rev shrimpton at March 01, 2015 08:16 PM (o7aDy)

446 I got the impression from the article she was using her cafeteria christianity as a point of order to defend obama. You can believe her or not--I don't.

Posted by: President Hillary Clinton (signed with autopen) at March 01, 2015 08:16 PM (WNERA)

447 1. Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
forward into battle see his banners go!

Refrain:
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.


2. At the sign of triumph Satan's host doth flee;
on then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
(Refrain)

3. Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
one in hope and doctrine, one in charity.
(Refrain)

4. Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane,
but the church of Jesus constant will remain.
Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail;
we have Christ's own promise, and that cannot fail.
(Refrain)

5. Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng,
blend with ours your voices in the triumph song.
Glory, laud, and honor unto Christ the King,
this through countless ages men and angels sing.
(Refrain)

Posted by: JeanQ Flyover, crusader at March 01, 2015 08:19 PM (rhjQp)

448 Vendette, if you're here, I tried to e-mail you, and it wasn't accepted.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 08:19 PM (FsuaD)

449 Stand outside the fence at the white house and yell traitor. About the best can be done.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 01, 2015 08:19 PM (WNERA)

450 Vendette, tried again. Fingers crossed.

I'm off the the Whores of Altanta! Will check in later.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 08:23 PM (FsuaD)

451 Vendette, if you're here, I tried to e-mail you, and it wasn't accepted.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 08:19 PM (FsuaD)


Eeek!

linseyiq at hotmail.

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 08:23 PM (TEpA2)

452 Crap



linseyziq at hotmail

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 08:23 PM (TEpA2)

453 Great points, and it really is between her and God.

I'm not sure it really is when it comes out as part a column of 'You Christian h8rs better leave Preznit Peasy alone becuz he's totes Christian, too!'

On that note, it's also worth pointing out that the 'Obama's Not A Christian?!?' thing is just another media concocted hitjob, so there's no obligation to address the dishonest questions they themselves posed.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 08:24 PM (MMC8r)

454 RIP Little Timmy Wilson
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 01, 2015 07:54 PM (4ka5+)
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LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1SCu9yiBlo

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 01, 2015 08:25 PM (KH1sk)

455 My brother told me yesterday that check out lines tabloids headlines were:
Obama is INSANE!! I believe it.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 08:26 PM (sj3Ax)

456 446 I got the impression from the article she was using her cafeteria christianity as a point of order to defend obama. You can believe her or not--I don't.
Posted by: President Hillary Clinton (signed with autopen) at March 01, 2015 08:16 PM (WNERA)

To say she's more afraid of right wing Christians than she is of leftist nonbelievers is horseshit. What does she think they'll do to her, put her on trial for heresy or something?

I am not a position to judge if her faith is sincere or not - only God can do that. But it doesn't impress me that she berates the Christian right for its' "intolerance" while making it clear from the get-go that when she looks at Christian conservatives, she sees only conservatives and not fellow Christians.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at March 01, 2015 08:26 PM (+XMAD)

457 linseyziq at hotmail


Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 08:23 PM (TEpA2)


Heh. I'll try again.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 08:26 PM (FsuaD)

458 THE MADNESS OF KING FORE ! ?

Posted by: rev shrimpton at March 01, 2015 08:28 PM (o7aDy)

459 Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 08:24 PM (MMC8r)

I've been steadfastly ignoring the Is Obama Christian flap for one good reason. We already know what he is: He's a hardcore leftist who hates Judeo-Christian civilization and wants to replace it with any possible alternative, no matter how broken, unworkable, or inhuman. That's his primary motivator, and faith takes a backseat to that no matter what it is.

Does it really matter if he's delusional enough to hold onto a Christian faith and such a position at the same time? I think not.

Posted by: Cato at March 01, 2015 08:28 PM (3HxZe)

460 Still no-go.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 08:28 PM (FsuaD)

461 It's headline at Drudge & was first time I looked today.

He's leaking it to divert attention from Netanyahu Speech Tuesday.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 08:29 PM (sj3Ax)

462 Off topic, but if Lumber Liquidators survives after this hit piece on right now on 60 Minutes, I would be surprised.

The claim is that all the product is heavily laden with formaledehydes, and causes health problems.

Shit, you could go after any dollar store and say the same.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 01, 2015 08:32 PM (U6f54)

463 459I've been steadfastly ignoring the Is Obama Christian flap for one good reason. We already know what he is:


He is a colonialist, and the country he seeks to colonize is this one. His colonists are from Mexico, Central America, and the Middle East. His reasons for this are his perverted idea of "fairness". Hope you like his fundamental transformation.

Posted by: fairweatherbill bracing for the cold at March 01, 2015 08:33 PM (oUp+w)

464 What is it with women that they have to rearrange the damn dishwasher after it's loaded? I f'n give up.

Posted by: freaked at March 01, 2015 08:34 PM (JdEZJ)

465 State Farm is using this great song on one of their ads.. I love it.



http://tinyurl.com/k2z6m8a

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 08:35 PM (0FSuD)

466 MY MOMMA HAD HER COUCH COVERED WITH FORMALDAHYDE.

IT MADE THE GREASEY STUFF WIPE OFF FASTER.

Posted by: rev shrimpton at March 01, 2015 08:35 PM (o7aDy)

467 He threatened to attack one of our own allies?

Crickets from republicans and media.

WTF. The man is insane. A complete evil lunatic.

Posted by: Dan at March 01, 2015 08:36 PM (COpZ4)

468 Looks like we're gonna need to resurrect the Rough Riders to help Israel

Posted by: Iblis at March 01, 2015 08:37 PM (IQUkZ)

469 Jane D'Oh, I'm banging my head against the wall


linseyziq at hotmail

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 08:37 PM (TEpA2)

470 468 Looks like we're gonna need to resurrect the Rough Riders to help Israel
Posted by: Iblis at March 01, 2015 08:37 PM (IQUkZ)


Oh boy!! we are going to play cowboys and muzzies, can't wait.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at March 01, 2015 08:38 PM (WNERA)

471 Gawd don't judge, only aevil right wing christianist dominionists judge.

Posted by: Ana Marie Cox at March 01, 2015 08:38 PM (Q819Q)

472 What is it with women that they have to rearrange the damn dishwasher after it's loaded? I f'n give up.

Posted by: freaked at March 01, 2015 08:34 PM (JdEZJ)


It will run.

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 08:38 PM (TEpA2)

473 Crickets from republicans

As far as you'll know...

Posted by: The MFM at March 01, 2015 08:39 PM (FcR7P)

474
Remember "pressure treated" lumber was all the rage in the mid to late 80's and early 90's?

Then The Usual Suspects said No, No, No, Can't Have That. Yeah, poison, supposedly.

Now lumber is "vat" treated or some such shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 08:40 PM (hbvPW)

475 @447


http://tinyurl.com/mnj45qj

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 08:41 PM (0FSuD)

476 469
Jane D'Oh, I'm banging my head against the wall


linseyziq at hotmail


Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 08:37 PM (TEpA2)


I'd give you my e-mail, but it's my name.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 08:42 PM (FsuaD)

477
Yeah, deck building exploded in the 80's probably because of the advent of pressure treated lumber, and, I suppose, people realized that decks were really nice to have.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 08:42 PM (hbvPW)

478 Vendette, let's talk tomorrow. I'm heading for bed.

*moronette hug*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 08:43 PM (FsuaD)

479
side-hugs, only, please

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 08:43 PM (hbvPW)

480 Remember "pressure treated" lumber was all the rage in the mid to late 80's and early 90's?

Then The Usual Suspects said No, No, No, Can't Have That. Yeah, poison, supposedly.

Now lumber is "vat" treated or some such shit.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 08:40 PM (hbvPW)


CCA

Yeah, it is poison. That's why it frickin works. It poisons the frickin microbes that cause wood to rot. Holy frickin underpants.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Goodlife Knitting Klatsch at March 01, 2015 08:44 PM (Q819Q)

481 Looks like we're gonna need to resurrect the Rough Riders to help Israel.

----

Sorry--Rough Riders are a bit busy right now.

Posted by: Reggie at March 01, 2015 08:44 PM (MYPM9)

482 I pray for Mr. Netanyahu's health and safety.

Very much looking forward to hearing his message.

Too bad if TFG doesn't like it, (either the visit or the message!) TFG should at least have the class to put on his big-boy panties, stfu and deal.

Posted by: JeanQ Flyover, "crusader" at March 01, 2015 08:44 PM (rhjQp)

483 Great points, and it really is between her and God. That said, it'd be nice for enlightenment to smack her upside the head with the clue bat sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Cato at March 01, 2015 08:14 PM (3HxZe)


Nope... it is no longer between her and her God, when she tries to use her version of religion, to make a political point...

Once you use your religion in Politics... you are fair game...

When you essentially invoke the name of God (ie religion) to bolster your arguments.... then YOU have made those beliefs part of the argument.

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 01, 2015 08:44 PM (qh617)

484
Yeah but kids are gonna eat that lumber!!

Because kids like to eat wood and shit!!

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 08:45 PM (hbvPW)

485 One way or another, Bibi knows, and could clear this up Tuesday. That would be something to behold.

Posted by: THE Big Old Fat Guy at March 01, 2015 08:45 PM (rVGaB)

486 The Levitican laws don't apply to Christians.
That's why we don't keep kosher. Jesus established a new covenant,
wiping away the one that had existed before.
...

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 08:11 PM (WvS3w)
----------------
To clarify. The OT outlines civil, ceremonial, and moral laws. The first two no longer apply. The last is still in effect.

This is important lest any leftist tries to bamboozle you with the "shellfish argument".

Posted by: transgendered quokka at March 01, 2015 08:45 PM (cIoI4)

487 I read in WSJ after 4:30 today AIPAC has publicly broken with This White House.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 08:45 PM (sj3Ax)

488 Looks like we're gonna need to resurrect the Rough Riders to help Israel
Posted by: Iblis at March 01, 2015 08:37 PM (IQUkZ)


Why would Israel need national parks & an income tax?

Posted by: Teddy Roosevelt at March 01, 2015 08:47 PM (Q819Q)

489 Any other president and you would look at this story very suspiciously. But with Obama it is almost hard to believe it is not true. We already know how much he hates Israel(and Jews in general) so it is not a stretch to believe that he would actively help a country whose entire goal is to destroy Israel. If Iran came to Obama and told him they plan an attack on Israel I have little doubt he would give them his blessings.

Posted by: Sho Nuff at March 01, 2015 08:47 PM (jtxl6)

490 There were two reasons behind a ban of tattooes. First was that it was/is a tribal marker; Judaism insists that Judaism is the tribe, so leave that shit for the idolaters kthxbai.

But I think more to the point, masters used to use tattooes to brand their slaves. Judaism in the Iron Age had slavery too - everyone did in the Iron Age - but it posited that at least you weren't supposed to be a dick about it. Slaves might be let loose at some point - ideally, SHOULD be let loose. After that point, the freedman shouldn't hold a visible reminder that he was some other guy's property.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 01, 2015 08:47 PM (AVEe1)

491 Obama should go to the Knesset and make his case for Iran and a nuclear enrichment program.

Of course it would be nothing but lies, but he should put on his big boy pants and make the effort. Or maybe he should just shut up.

Posted by: fairweatherbill bracing for the cold at March 01, 2015 08:48 PM (oUp+w)

492 Actually, I'm kind hoping kids like to eat wood, if you know what I mean. *wink wink nudge nudge*

Posted by: Harry "Searchlight" Reid at March 01, 2015 08:49 PM (Q819Q)

493 Because kids like to eat wood and shit!!

-----

Now that I'm an adult I only eat one of those things!

*huge shit-eating grin*

Posted by: Joey Biden at March 01, 2015 08:49 PM (MYPM9)

494 Do American Leftists know how closely their ideology mirrors the Nazis?

Posted by: Sho Nuff at March 01, 2015 08:49 PM (jtxl6)

495 http://tinyurl.com/orwwncw

why its probably false

Posted by: thathalfrican at March 01, 2015 08:49 PM (R5HRU)

496 He can't even get an air strike on a convoy of black masked thugs. By the time he goes through the process of the ROE it will be over and done with. Does he think that the Israelis are going to confide in him? Assclown.

Posted by: harleycowboy at March 01, 2015 08:50 PM (+9AX9)

497 http://tinyurl.com/k8n6sdk


This might be behind paywall but Here is WSJ article from my last comment.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 08:50 PM (sj3Ax)

498 lame duck don't care.

$$$ and SS protection as long as he lives.

Invulnerable ?

dunno

Posted by: seamrog at March 01, 2015 08:50 PM (o7aDy)

499 Obama has one end game in all of this: he hopes to Allah that if Iran nukes Tel Aviv, he's watching it on live TV with his hand around his dick.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 01, 2015 08:51 PM (6QHER)

500 Remember "pressure treated" lumber was all the rage in the mid to late 80's and early 90's?



Then The Usual Suspects said No, No, No, Can't Have That. Yeah, poison, supposedly.



Now lumber is "vat" treated or some such shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at March 01, 2015 08:40 PM (hbvPW)


Also, then there was the BS of fire treated plywood.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 01, 2015 08:51 PM (8zCR+)

501 The thing to a nuclear Iran is the very real probability that an american liberal armpit city like chicago becomes a glowing crater. If those are the stakes......

Posted by: trump at March 01, 2015 08:52 PM (mctSY)

502 There were two reasons behind a ban of tattooes. First was that it was/is a tribal marker; Judaism insists that Judaism is the tribe, so leave that shit for the idolaters kthxbai.

But I think more to the point, masters used to use tattooes to brand their slaves.


Horse shit.

Look, God knew that lame bros would be getting tribal tattoos some 3500 years after the rules were made. You ain't getting into heaven with lame shit like that. It would be like taking your Avanti to heaven with you. LAME.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Goodlife Knitting Klatsch at March 01, 2015 08:52 PM (Q819Q)

503 Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 08:50 PM

Yes, it's behind a paywall, but the partial first sentence says enough. Took them long enough, imo.

Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at March 01, 2015 08:52 PM (rhjQp)

504 487
I read in WSJ after 4:30 today AIPAC has publicly broken with This White House.


Looking at WSJ now, where did you see that?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 08:52 PM (0FSuD)

505 Thathalfrican,
That's why I said he probably leaked it.
Thank you for PJ Media link.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 08:52 PM (sj3Ax)

506 Also, then there was the BS of fire treated plywood.

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Not safe. My deck is made of steel--fire can't melt it.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at March 01, 2015 08:52 PM (MYPM9)

507 So my Jewish Daughter-in-Law has tats.

And she eats bacon.

She makes my son happy and we have beautiful grandchildren. Who gives a shit?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 01, 2015 08:54 PM (V70Uh)

508 @497

Thanks, I have a subscription

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 08:54 PM (0FSuD)

509 My deck is made of steel--fire can't melt it.
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at March 01, 2015 08:52 PM (MYPM9)


No, I've seen your deck, it's made of rubber.

Oh, d-E-c-k. Never mind.

Posted by: Whoopie Goldberg at March 01, 2015 08:55 PM (Q819Q)

510 Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 08:52 PM (sj3Ax)

I dunno what's true but you're welcome.

Posted by: thathalfrican at March 01, 2015 08:55 PM (R5HRU)

511 Well, Whoopie, as you keep reminding me, it's not a DECK deck.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at March 01, 2015 08:55 PM (MYPM9)

512 Nip Sip,
It's behind paywall but I linked it in #497.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 08:56 PM (sj3Ax)

513 It would be like taking your Avanti to heaven with you. LAME.

Uh... http://gallery.sjsu.edu/sacrifice/sumerians.html

Posted by: bill g. mesh at March 01, 2015 08:56 PM (AVEe1)

514 Am sorry.


Have to give in and good night to all.

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2015 08:56 PM (TEpA2)

515 My d-e-c-k is made of vulcanized rubber. Good and hard.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 01, 2015 08:56 PM (V70Uh)

516 Posted by: bill g. mesh at March 01, 2015 08:56 PM (AVEe1)

Ain't one studebaker on that whole dang web page, bro.

Posted by: Willis at March 01, 2015 08:58 PM (Q819Q)

517 My d-e-c-k is made of vulcanized rubber. Good and hard.

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Glad my people could help. Live long, and prosper.

Posted by: Spock at March 01, 2015 08:58 PM (MYPM9)

518 I have a subscription. Read it. Hardball here we come!

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 09:00 PM (0FSuD)

519 >>>>My d-e-c-k is made of vulcanized rubber. Good and hard.

Yup.

Posted by: Vulcan, God of the Forge at March 01, 2015 09:00 PM (MYPM9)

520 Glad my people could help. Live long, and prosper.
Posted by: Spock at March 01, 2015 08:58 PM (MYPM9)

http://dilbert.com/strip/2011-01-12

Posted by: Willis at March 01, 2015 09:00 PM (Q819Q)

521 Thathalfrican,
Only time will tell.
I don't know what's true either.
I do think in addition to being an ##? He is insane.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 09:01 PM (sj3Ax)

522 WSJ article, no paywall:

http://tinyurl.com/ocbvjnu

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 01, 2015 09:02 PM (MMC8r)

523 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1SCu9yiBlo
Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 01, 2015 08:25 PM (KH1sk

Thanks!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 01, 2015 09:02 PM (4ka5+)

524 369 "No, I'm nervous to come out as a Christian because I worry I'm not good enough of one. I'm not scared that non-believers will make me feel an outcast. I'm scared that Christians will."


Ummm, yea. Well, if your sincere, you won't have an issue with Christians. If your just using this to justify your political belief and make cheap political points, then, well....... I have no idea if she is sincere. If so good. Baby steps. The Christian journey is a marathon, not a race. You grow as you learn and trust God more.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at March 01, 2015 09:02 PM (20X6f)

525 Meanwhile, in a California public school...

California Public School Promotes "White Space" to "Unlearn Racism"

http://bit.ly/18etoKP

Posted by: The Spacial Hat at March 01, 2015 09:03 PM (0Ew3K)

526 I have a Cardassian deck. Kinda warped and bumpy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 01, 2015 09:03 PM (W5DcG)

527 Nip Sip,
I was POd about Yahoo wing of Republican Party & cancelled it but missed it.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 09:03 PM (sj3Ax)

528 Nite Vendette

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at March 01, 2015 09:03 PM (4ka5+)

529 Posted by: Willis

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Haha! Thanks, Willis.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 01, 2015 09:03 PM (MYPM9)

530 I have a Cardassian deck. Kinda warped and bumpy

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I have a Kardashian deck. It's huge!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 01, 2015 09:05 PM (MYPM9)

531 @527

You can not not have the WSJ. Been reading it, EVERYDAY since 1967.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 09:06 PM (0FSuD)

532 494
Do American Leftists know how closely their ideology mirrors the Nazis?


Posted by: Sho Nuff at March 01, 2015 08:49 PM (jtxl6)


I post that the democrat party platform and the NAZI party platform are almost identical since 2002. Now they want to kill the Jews for the noble black and muzzie.

Posted by: Jukin at March 01, 2015 09:07 PM (WGm5T)

533 @522

How do you find no pay wall link? Google?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 09:07 PM (0FSuD)

534 You should see my Holo Deck.

Posted by: Geordi LaForge at March 01, 2015 09:07 PM (MYPM9)

535 Nip,
You didn't read it today.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 09:08 PM (sj3Ax)

536 534 You should see my Holo Deck.
Posted by: Geordi LaForge at March 01, 2015 09:07 PM (MYPM9)

You think that's something? Mine are totally Suite.

Posted by: Quark at March 01, 2015 09:09 PM (3HxZe)

537 I can't read WSJ link unless I was reading here on Mac.
I'm using Mercury browser here to open links on iPad.

I use Safari for everything but here.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 09:11 PM (sj3Ax)

538 You think that's something? Mine are totally Suite.

Posted by: Quark

Nice ears, OBAMA.

Posted by: Geordi LaForge at March 01, 2015 09:11 PM (MYPM9)

539 Nice ears, OBAMA.


Posted by: Geordi LaForge

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Ohhhhh! Burn!

Posted by: Commander Riker at March 01, 2015 09:12 PM (MYPM9)

540 nytimes
january 30 2015

Correction: January 30 2015
An earlier version of this

article misstated when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu


after the administration had been informed of the invitation
not before.

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 09:12 PM (nqBYe)

541 501
The thing to a nuclear Iran is the very real probability that an
american liberal armpit city like chicago becomes a glowing crater. If
those are the stakes......

Posted by: trump at March 01, 2015 08:52 PM (mctSY)

Yeah well about that....
If it does happen I pray for the 10% decent and civilized people that should have got the fock out of there before. but hey I'm in Kalifornia....so...

Posted by: Jukin at March 01, 2015 09:12 PM (WGm5T)

542 Nice ears, OBAMA.
Posted by: Geordi LaForge at March 01, 2015 09:11 PM (MYPM9)

Obama wouldn't be a good Ferengi, he just doesn't have the ears for business.

Posted by: Quark at March 01, 2015 09:12 PM (3HxZe)

543 This didn't happen, I gotta believe, since it was just two months ago the Tom Donilon was quoted as calling Netanyahu a chickenshit because he didn't launch an attack in 2014. But I'll bet Obama would do it if he thought it would stop an attack on Iran.

Posted by: MTF at March 01, 2015 09:13 PM (FCsIb)

544 Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel accepted Speaker John Boehners invitation to address Congress. He accepted after

had to cut up article to post

Pixy shee wiz

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 09:13 PM (nqBYe)

545 Ohhhhh! Burn!
Posted by: Commander Riker at March 01, 2015 09:12 PM (MYPM9)

Don't you have some space lesbians to unsuccessfully hit on?

Posted by: Quark at March 01, 2015 09:13 PM (3HxZe)

546 The modern American Left mirrors Marx more than Hitler. Though it has no real problem with the ways and aims of either.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 01, 2015 09:14 PM (8zCR+)

547 Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel accepted Speaker John Boehners invitation to address Congress. He accepted after
after the administration had been informed of the invitation
not before.

ntytimes correction

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 09:14 PM (nqBYe)

548 Obama wouldn't be a good Ferengi, he just doesn't have the ears for business.
Posted by: Quark at March 01, 2015 09:12 PM (3HxZe)


Hrm, okay, but what about amphisbaena?

Posted by: Barry of Onan at March 01, 2015 09:14 PM (Q819Q)

549 *strokes beard thoughtfully*

*leaves Quark's bar for a place with more space lesbians*

Posted by: Commander Riker at March 01, 2015 09:14 PM (MYPM9)

550 anywho Nibi spoke to Reid and Pelosi according to article and correction.

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 09:16 PM (nqBYe)

551 *arrives at Whoopie's bar*

Posted by: Commander Riker at March 01, 2015 09:16 PM (MYPM9)

552 535
Nip,

You didn't read it today.



Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 09:08 PM (sj3Ax)

Read it yesterday. The weekend edition is very weird to me. I checked the front page and the opinion page. Have no idea where the story was since it was not on either of those pages.
Usually if the front page has not changed, I assume nothing else has.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 09:16 PM (0FSuD)

553 Just to piss off you owl haters,

the little fu*ckers are growing their flight wings. According to the site, in the next 2-3 weeks they'll being going out on the tree limbs (75 ft. off the ground).

Then, after a couple of weeks, they'll begin flying.

Those little owls have more balls than the JEF and all the Congress.

So there.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 09:17 PM (FsuaD)

554 Hello, Commander Riker!

Posted by: Kathryn Janeway at March 01, 2015 09:17 PM (MYPM9)

555 Okay, I'm going to bed.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 09:18 PM (FsuaD)

556 I've got to do things.
Have a good night.

I wish I knew what Tabloid had headline that TFG is insane. If it was Inquirer it would most likely be true.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 09:18 PM (sj3Ax)

557 @537


I use Mercury also. To read the WSJ on an Ipad, you can use Mercury, or download the WSJ app to your Newsstand icon. First page on Ipad.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 09:18 PM (0FSuD)

558 how sad is it that we have to question IF this is true of a sitting American president? Even the anti-semite Carter masked his disdain (I am being charitable) of Israel while in office.

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at March 01, 2015 09:19 PM (wWWcl)

559 Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 09:18 PM (sj3Ax)

Best investigative reporting on the planet.

Posted by: Agent K at March 01, 2015 09:19 PM (3HxZe)

560 Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at March 01, 2015 09:19 PM (wWWcl)

That's the worst part. With almost any other President, you could reject it as absurdity. Not so with Obama.

Posted by: Cato at March 01, 2015 09:21 PM (3HxZe)

561 This didn't happen, I gotta believe, since it was just two months ago the Tom Donilon was quoted as calling Netanyahu a chickenshit because he didn't launch an attack in 2014. But I'll bet Obama would do it if he thought it would stop an attack on Iran.

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There you go applying logic to the left, again. Next you'll be listening to your dog barking to see if it's Morse code.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 01, 2015 09:21 PM (LImiJ)

562 And our taxpayer-funded USSS stands silently by as this and many other injuries are inflicted on the American nation and Decency itself.

So noble. So selfless.

Posted by: Jaws at March 01, 2015 09:22 PM (Rbtz3)

563 Agent K.,
I looked at Inquirer website & it's not there.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 09:22 PM (sj3Ax)

564 A soothing Owl Cam:

http://landingsbirdcam.com/

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 09:22 PM (FsuaD)

565 558 how sad is it that we have to question IF this is true of a sitting American president? Even the anti-semite Carter masked his disdain (I am being charitable) of Israel while in office.
Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at March 01, 2015 09:19 PM


Far too plausible for TFG, isn't it? It's almost hard to believe that it's not true.

Carter, I had always thought his antisemitism developed later, along with the dementia. It's not such an uncommon pattern. Maybe we should be observing Hillary for it, once she has recovered enough from her latest fall to return to the public eye.

Posted by: Splunge at March 01, 2015 09:22 PM (qyomX)

566 how sad is it that we have to question IF this is
true of a sitting American president? Even the anti-semite Carter masked
his disdain (I am being charitable) of Israel while in office.

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at March 01, 2015 09:19 PM (wWWcl)


It seems like a bi-partisan thing, James Baker was prickish to Isreal too.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 01, 2015 09:23 PM (8zCR+)

567 563 Carol

It was a Men in Black ref/joke.

Posted by: speedster1 on the (new) ipad at March 01, 2015 09:23 PM (1brdf)

568 Carol,

New content now up at WSJ opinion page. I usually read that the night before, since they usually post them around 10 PM.


Download the app in your Newsstand widget. It saves your password a lot better than Mercury.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 09:25 PM (0FSuD)

569 Jaws, keep 'em stoned, drunk and horny and there's a chance they'll miss with the first shot, is the thinking...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 01, 2015 09:26 PM (XO6WW)

570 Anyone want to bet against the idea that Bibi's upcoming speech will be more memorable than any speech by Teh One during his entire Presidency? I almost said "and more morally-grounded," but that would have been a total sucker bet.

Posted by: Splunge at March 01, 2015 09:26 PM (qyomX)

571 It was a Men in Black ref/joke.
Posted by: speedster1 on the (new) ipad at March 01, 2015 09:23 PM (1brdf)

Thought most of the Horde would get it.

Posted by: Cato at March 01, 2015 09:27 PM (3HxZe)

572 I hate to say this but this rumor and conjecture is as bad some of the crap the Left tried to put on Bush.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at March 01, 2015 09:27 PM (glJL/)

573 Those little owls have more balls than the JEF and all the Congress.

So there.
Posted by: Jane D'oh


But it's my nature.

Posted by: Scorpiobama at March 01, 2015 09:28 PM (EwP4K)

574 572 I hate to say this but this rumor and conjecture is as bad some of the crap the Left tried to put on Bush.

Is it. Is it, really. OK, ready for the specifics.

Posted by: Splunge at March 01, 2015 09:29 PM (qyomX)

575 I wish I knew what Tabloid had headline that TFG is insane. If it was Inquirer it would most likely be true.

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For the last few days I've been seeing a commercial for CBS News telling how truthy, reliable and accurate they are. Now that Brian Williams is doing the walk of shame, they hope nobody remembers An-day Ather-Ray and as far as Steve Kroft goes, the less said the better.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 01, 2015 09:29 PM (LImiJ)

576 So Obama called Netanyahu chickenshit because he wouldn't attack Iran if American pilots were ordered to shoot down the Israeli planes?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 01, 2015 09:29 PM (V70Uh)

577 572 I hate to say this but this rumor and conjecture is as bad some of the crap the Left tried to put on Bush.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at March 01, 2015 09:27 PM (glJL/)

Not nearly. For one, this rumor and conjecture is based on a story broke by an award-winning foreign newspaper that's generally held as a credible source. For another, it doesn't have nearly as much irrational, personal hatred. There's also significantly less BUSHITLER ELEVENTY!1!1! going on.

Posted by: Cato at March 01, 2015 09:29 PM (3HxZe)

578 I hate to say this but this rumor and conjecture is as bad some of the crap the Left tried to put on Bush.

Your concern has been duly noted. Thank you for your submission.

Posted by: The AoS Concern Desk at March 01, 2015 09:31 PM (Dwehj)

579 Men in Black?

The original was fun. The sequels are tedious.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 01, 2015 09:31 PM (V70Uh)

580 Posted by: The AoS Concern Desk at March 01, 2015 09:31 PM (Dweh

Stick your desk up your ass.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at March 01, 2015 09:31 PM (glJL/)

581 576 So Obama called Netanyahu chickenshit because he wouldn't attack Iran if American pilots were ordered to shoot down the Israeli planes?

Flawless logic. But not Narcissist Logic. Ran into a wonderful site with insights into Narcissism.

http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/traits.html

A quote:

The most telling thing that narcissists do is contradict themselves. They will do this virtually in the same sentence, without even stopping to take a breath. It can be trivial (e.g., about what they want for lunch) or it can be serious (e.g., about whether or not they love you). When you ask them which one they mean, they'll deny ever saying the first one, though it may literally have been only seconds since they said it -- really, how could you think they'd ever have said that? You need to have your head examined! They will contradict FACTS. They will lie to you about things that you did together. They will misquote you to yourself. If you disagree with them, they'll say you're lying, making stuff up, or are crazy.

Posted by: Splunge at March 01, 2015 09:32 PM (qyomX)

582 Bibi's upcoming speech will be more memorable than any speech by Teh One during his entire Presidency?

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But 'Bammy is the greatest speechifyer in the history of forever!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 01, 2015 09:33 PM (LImiJ)

583 Bob Belcher the difference I see is the msmedia flat out was in cahoots with the left to destroy Bush often making up shit.

Yje nedia now ovsfucates and Lies for This President.

at least we are attempting to find the truth

it's like the NYT article stating Bibi and Boehner made arrangements Before WH was notified, and than later recanted in small print on bottom of article.

disinformation has been amazing.
and Not by us!

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 09:33 PM (nqBYe)

584 I hate to say this but this rumor and conjecture is as bad some of the crap the Left tried to put on Bush.

I agree. You have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House.

Posted by: Senator John McCain at March 01, 2015 09:35 PM (T0MiM)

585 I wanted to leave but everyone here cracks me up!
Bammy reminds me of Bam Bam from the Flintstones, he's a cartoon character, just like the SCOAMT.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 09:35 PM (sj3Ax)

586 James Baker is the prototype of the kind of hack who is almost always wrong about everything, but keeps rising through the ranks. The Federal Government at the highest level is mostly populated by this kind.

Posted by: cm9000 at March 01, 2015 09:36 PM (8zCR+)

587 Stick your desk up your ass.

Your suggestion has been taken under advisement and summarily rejected by our Board of Hamsters.

Posted by: The AoS Concern Desk at March 01, 2015 09:36 PM (Dwehj)

588 What the hell does Bush have to do with it?

Posted by: freaked at March 01, 2015 09:37 PM (JdEZJ)

589 586 James Baker is the prototype of the kind of hack who is almost always wrong about everything, but keeps rising through the ranks. The Federal Government at the highest level is mostly populated by this kind.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick at March 01, 2015 09:37 PM (qyomX)

590 I'd stick it up my ass, but there's too much Reggie up there already.

Posted by: Barry of Onan at March 01, 2015 09:38 PM (Q819Q)

591 Just googled "obama ferengi". Hilarious! Humor helps me to cope with the sense of helplessness.

Posted by: transgendered quokka at March 01, 2015 09:38 PM (cIoI4)

592 The trust you have placed in me is precious. I solemnly swear to sell you out only for a very high price.

Posted by: John Boehner at March 01, 2015 09:38 PM (FcR7P)

593 Bammy reminds me of Bam Bam from the Flintstones,

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I was thinking more that time on Gilligan's Island when that drunken chimp got hold of a Tommy gun.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 01, 2015 09:39 PM (LImiJ)

594 ok i swore to ,uself i wasn't going to read politics this weekend at all.

yea .
o well holydays are soon and Then i will not read.
i won't

no really

nite all.

Posted by: willow at March 01, 2015 09:39 PM (nqBYe)

595 Hey John go get bent you orange bastard.

Posted by: freaked at March 01, 2015 09:40 PM (JdEZJ)

596 Experience

Recommended $129,000 in bonuses for Lois Lerner during her "Republicans Get No Approvals" phase

Hid location of Lois Lerner Emails

Marked Enemies List members for audit.

APPROVED

Posted by: Application For Promotion at March 01, 2015 09:41 PM (qyomX)

597 I feel better now.

Posted by: freaked at March 01, 2015 09:41 PM (JdEZJ)

598 ONT ENGAGED

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 01, 2015 09:42 PM (EwP4K)

599 The only deal we should have with Iran is one that says, fine, you can have nuclear for power generation, but not for weapons.

Posted by: cornfusedyetagain at March 01, 2015 06:27 PM (32cZc)


I know the Greenies and fellow-travelers say that Iran only wants power generation capacity, but why do they want to allow eeeviiiil nukes to the Mullahs when they won't allow it for the US?

Answer, it was never about power generation it was always about giving the Iranian regime nukes.

Posted by: kindltot at March 01, 2015 09:42 PM (t//F+)

600 595 Hey John go get bent you orange bastard.

I'm a victim now, and entitled to consideration. Orange is the new Black.

Posted by: John Boehner at March 01, 2015 09:43 PM (qyomX)

601 ONT nood

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 01, 2015 09:44 PM (0Ew3K)

602 Answer, it was never about power generation it was always about giving the Iranian regime nukes.

Posted by: kindltot at March 01, 2015 09:42 PM (t//F+)

They don't give two rat turds about power generation, getting the bomb is all that matters to them. Like IS, they're trying to make the Apocalypse happen in a way semi-consistent with how the Koran predicts it.

Posted by: Cato at March 01, 2015 09:44 PM (3HxZe)

603 The most telling thing that narcissists do is contradict themselves. ... They will contradict FACTS. They will lie to you about things that you did together. They will misquote you to yourself. If you disagree with them, they'll say you're lying, making stuff up, or are crazy.
Posted by: Splunge at March 01, 2015 09:32 PM (qyomX)
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So are you trying to say that 97% of climatologists are narcissists?

Posted by: transgendered quokka at March 01, 2015 09:45 PM (XrHO0)

604 Posted by: John Boehner at March 01, 2015 09:43 PM (qyomX)

Wait. You can declare yourself a victim just for being orange, and the hu-mons will give you money? How gullible are they? I've got to get in on this! Hello, Profit!

Posted by: Quark at March 01, 2015 09:45 PM (3HxZe)

605 602 They don't give two rat turds about power generation, getting the bomb is all that matters to them. Like IS, they're trying to make the Apocalypse happen in a way semi-consistent with how the Koran predicts it.

Well, yes, but "hey, we can Nuke Israel now" probably has a few lines to itself in the mission statement.

Existential threats are wonderfully focusing, which is why the Israelis have Bibi, and we have an ersatz version of Neville Chamberlain, except Mr. Chamberlain loved his country.

Posted by: Splunge at March 01, 2015 09:47 PM (qyomX)

606 Firehouse,
I heard we had it coming to us from a Pali or something at 1 pm EDT from receptionist at NE Baptist Hospital in Boston. I had an appt. from a week earlier & they stayed open. He pissed me off so much the idiot doctor asked if I used coke because my pulse rate was so high. I only do meds prescribed & was nervous driving in Boston since two planes left from here & there were different uniforms that I didn't recognize.

I found out months later the Boston police put cadets on streets.

Posted by: Carol at March 01, 2015 09:50 PM (sj3Ax)

607 I've visited the Womkette site. I spent a little time there when I was a liberal, I believe as well as during the 2008 election but I try to stay away from most liberal sites now. I guess that there is group of writers over there? I can't remember. Because I can't specifically recall Ann Marie Cox but what I have there was just nasty, mean spirited. The only left wing site that I can recall that that was worse Was "Jezebel". Some of the angry, hateful stuff there made me almost physically sick. So if Ms. Cox has accepted Jesus as Lord, I pray that she may be blessed on her journey and grow in her faith and that she realizes Christians and even conservatives may not be the caricatures she makes them out to ne.

And JFTR, having been a liberal for many years not all the liberals are the caricatures some conservatives make them out to be. There is a continuum between say-my 64 year old friend who voted for Reagan in her 20's and yet voted for Obama both times and someone like Bill Ayers or some posters at Wonkette,. My friend wears her American flag hat proudly and in many ways, in many ways still the conservative girl who came from the Midwest 35 years ago and goes to church regularly (and not a LW church) but because of years of reading the the NYT is somewhat suspicious of RW conservatives and simply doesn't know all the news because she doesn't read any conservative sites.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2015 09:51 PM (DXzRD)

608 Meant "What I have read there...."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2015 09:52 PM (DXzRD)

609 Iran gets a nuke... they pass it on to third party terrorists who use North Korean rockets to detonate it above North America in an attempt to shut down the US by way of EMP. Human nature and decades of ME FIRST result in a societal implosion that renders the US moot.

It sounds like the pages of a novel.. I only pray it remains so.

Posted by: itzWicks at March 01, 2015 09:54 PM (9hbf9)

610 This is important lest any leftist tries to bamboozle you with the "shellfish argument".

Posted by: transgendered quokka at March 01, 2015 08:45 PM (cIoI4)
*****************
God Himself showed that the Mosaic Law was broader than thought:

And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. (Acts 10:13-15 KJV)

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at March 01, 2015 10:19 PM (TqyFL)

611 It should be spelled out very clearly to everyone in the Obama administration including Obama that if Israel gets hit by a nuke each and everyone of them will be charged with committing Genocide and hung by the neck until dead.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at March 01, 2015 10:20 PM (yh4lQ)

612 The blood that will be on Obama's hands would make Stalin jealous and Pol Pot swoon. Obama has done his level best to destabilize the whole world order and eradicate the Pax Americana. He may not be directly responsible, but by his naivety, ineptitude, and arrogance, he will unleash the hounds of hell on not only Israel, but Eastern Europe, and quite possibly, Japan and other nations of the South Pacific region. China has made a move and is building a base in international waters - unchallenged. Putin is flexing his muscle, and has moved into Ukraine - unchecked. Who's to say when and where he will stop. Is he trying to take back former Soviet block nations? But this isn't even the half of it. He squandered the gains made in Iraq, and he allowed stable regimes, albeit not exactly very democratic and responsible ones, to tumble during the inaptly named "Arab Spring." He has consistently under estimated significant threats, case in point, by calling ISIS a "JV team." What responsible leader on the world stage would make these kind of comments in the greater public forum? The whole Middle East is a complete powder keg about to explode, and Israel, mighty Israel, is supposed to tie their hands behind their backs, bow their heads, and go quietly into that dark night like good little schmendricks. How dare Israel think of defending itself? Will we make it another two years without total war breaking out? Don't know. Can we survive this president? Don't know. Can Israel survive? Don't know. Would this administration actually shoot down Israeli planes? Don't know, but Obama would probably really like to. As I said before, something is very, very wrong. Our country, the world - nothing - feels like it did. Something is afoot, and let's hope the end result will not be a boot stomping on a human face forever amid a burgeoning new dark age.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 01, 2015 10:27 PM (2/oBD)

613 "the blood of all those who die will be directly on Obama's hands."

Obama wants all that blood on his hands.

Posted by: Onlooker at March 01, 2015 10:55 PM (+f7nz)

614 Everything makes sense if you put "Tell Vladimir I will be more flexible once I am reelected" in front of all Foreign affairs actions.

Posted by: Davod at March 01, 2015 11:00 PM (FWznJ)

615 Barack Obama doesn't care about Jewish people.

Posted by: Kahane-ye Westowitz at March 01, 2015 11:13 PM (cIoI4)

616 I dunno. I have an odd sort of confidence that Obama and Iran are such inept buffoons, and Israel so determined to survive, that they (Israel) will pull through ok despite Obama's treachery.

Posted by: transgendered quokka at March 01, 2015 11:18 PM (XrHO0)

617 What is interesting is that the MFM has carried the water so hard against Bibi's speech to Congress for this administration that they themselves have only ignited more interest into what Netanayhu may say. They are in a box as they can not report this now. They will edit and editorialize but the whole speech will be on the internet for anyone to watch or read.

I also hear tell that Egypt is not so crazy about the JEF now. Styrofoam collams and the big speeches in Cairo have fallen.

Posted by: Cheri at March 02, 2015 12:26 AM (ZFPMM)

618 trans,

yeah, Israel may survive this guy, but will we? we're screwed. and what if we end up with elizabeth warren for pres? this could happen. she'll probably have us all rounded up and placed in camps. she;s a nutter true believer if i ever saw one. she is as dangerous as obama, if not worse. no, i don't know if we are going to come out of this.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 02, 2015 01:32 AM (2/oBD)

619 One would hope that "Israeli insiders" might pick a more convincing 'news' org to leak this to, in particular one that doesn't use a computer generated voice to talk out their stories.

One would also hope - or better yet, trust - that if "Israeli insiders" in fact existed, then Bibi hisownself would relate this to Congress. Uh oh - maybe he WILL! Just not in word-like concepts.

In addition, do you think, just for ONCE for fuck's sake, the rumor mill could produce something aimed at making Obama look like a coward that doesn't actually make him look like he's got massive steel balls? Or a something aimed at making him look bad on his policy towards Israel that doesn't at the same time, as 'background', make Bibi look like the craziest fucking loon not already ruling North Korea?

You'd THINK that after the guy's been in the White House for over 6 friggin' years, the mongering factory would have at least by now have installed some sort of quality control.

Even The Daily Caller's got the story down-listed 3 in a sidebar. Either Fucker's minions tucked up, erp, Tuckers minions fucked up, or not even he and his staff think this baby's got oxygen.

Posted by: Wax the Gunter Flog at March 02, 2015 02:56 AM (lqeGC)

Posted by: Vic at March 02, 2015 05:58 AM (wlDny)

621 no, i don't know if we are going to come out of this.
Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 02, 2015 01:32 AM (2/oBD)

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Believe me, I know the feeling. This uncertainty, the collapse of all assumptions that I took for granted for most of my life, is the worst part of it.

Posted by: transgendered quokka at March 02, 2015 10:25 AM (6E7W2)

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