Gun Thread - What Fresh Hell? Edition [Weirddave]

Gun of the Week 1

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Gun of the Week 2

News of the Week

So, this happened. BATF moves to ban M855 NATO Ball ammunition. So what's behind the move? Most of you probably use .223 when you're pinking, not green tips, so who cares? Kevin Williamson over at NRO has the full scoop.

A little background, which is unavoidably weedy: In 1986, Congress revised the Gun Control Act, inserting prohibitions against the manufacture and import of "armor-piercing ammunition." Armor-piercing ammunition does not mean ammunition designed to defeat body armor - that would be too simple. It means, most broadly, ammunition that could defeat the soft body armor of the sort that was cutting edge in the 1980s. But banning all such ammunition as "armor-piercing" would have meant a ban on practically all hunting rifles. One of the truly ignorant and insipid aspects of our gun-control debate is that the gun-grabbers spend so much time wringing their hands over "assault rifles," which are relatively low-powered but kinda-scary-looking firearms generally chambered for rounds (mainly the .223) that are too small even to legally use for deer hunting, while at the same time insisting that they do not wish to bother us about hunting rifles, which generally are much, much more powerful than the AR-15s that so dominate the progressive imagination. So, "armor-piercing" came to mean ammunition made of certain materials (tungsten alloys, steel, etc.) that could defeat certain kinds of body armor and that could be fired from a handgun. But, again, similar problems crop up: Almost all rifle cartridges could be fired from a handgun, because there are handguns chambered for all manner of cartridges. The classic American rifle cartridge, the .30-06, can be fired from certain handguns, as can classic big-game rounds such as the .45-70, which is popular among moose and grizzly hunters (as well as non-hunting hikers and campers who wish to be prepared for a moose or grizzly encounter). So that leads us to another refinement: an exemption for single-shot handguns. "The term 'single shot handgun' means a break-open or bolt action handgun that can accept only a single cartridge manually, and does not accept or use a magazine or other ammunition feeding device. The term does not include a pocket pistol or derringer-type firearm." So sayeth the ATF.

Read the whole thing, there's an completely separate line of attack coming from the EPA. This administration just can not accept that there are some things that they may not do. Stymied by the courts in their gun control efforts, they won't stop looking for another way around. Why it's almost as if they'll go through the gate. If the gate's closed, they'll go over the fence. If the fence is too high, they'll pole vault in. If that doesn't work, they'll parachute in , but they're going to get gun control passed. Somebody said that once, I forget who. Predictably, this has led to a run on 5.56. I've heard some folks who worship at the church of AK gloating over this. Take a gander at GOTW 1 and reread the excerpt from the NRO article. Yea, you're in the cross-hairs too, Charlie.

Also in the news from several weeks ago, Federal Judge Strikes Down Interstate Handgun Transfer Ban

Gunhinged

The woman behind Everytown is a PR gun for hire. Have lie will travel.

Facebook

I don't use Facebook much. I just posted in an AoS group yesterday for the first time in months. I don't see any reason to enrich an ultra-lib whose business model is profiting off of personal information that I freely provide. Oh, and they can be kinda censorshipy.

Facebook blocks fundraiser to reunite father and son over gun connection

Molon Labe

Yesterday's Fundamental Concepts thread dealt with the ramifications of Molon Labe in a real world scenario. I chatted briefly in Twitter with respected gun enthusiast and editor of the Bearing Arms blog Bob Owens. He wrote something similar several years ago, and his scenario goes much further than mine did. What you'll see in the rebellion

Defensive Gun Use of the Week

Pharmacist shoots and kills masked armed robber from behind the counter with his conceal and carry permit weapon during failed heist

Video at link. I'm always amazed at how easy it is to miss in the heat of the moment. Thankfully, in this case the pharmacist didn't.

Mall Ninja: The saga of Gecko45

This is one of those internet exchanges that assume legendary status as the years go by, archived here for all to enjoy. My favorite response to the mall ninja? "If Plan A is to take multiple .338 shots to the back, you really need to come up with a Plan B." Gecko45 is just so goddamn tactical that he's tacticool.

Get out your magnifying glass

Can You Spot the Snipers Hidden in These Photos?

Answer at link.

Looking for something interesting to do today in New Jersey?

VIA Trentonian.com:

Sometimes Everyone Need a Little Something to Absorb the Recoil

G.O.T.W. Answers

Today seems to be Russia day at G.O.T.W. The first is a BHAKR39, a Krinkov pistol chambered in 7.62 X 39. The second is the TP-82, the Soviet "Space Gun". From Wiki: "It was intended as a survival aid to be used after landings and before recovery in the Siberian wilderness. The upper two smoothbore barrels used 12.5x70 mm ammunition (32 gauge), and the lower rifled barrel used 5.45x39mm ammunition. The pistol could be used for hunting, to defend against predators and for visible and audible distress signals. The detachable buttstock was also a machete that came with a canvas sheath." Pretty cool.

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1 *sigh* A plethora of black diamonds. Give me a sec.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 10:44 AM (WvS3w)

2 Diamonds ?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 01, 2015 10:51 AM (R8hU8)

3 Did you know that the plaintiff in the "<b>Federal Judge Strikes Down Interstate Handgun Transfer Ban</b>" case is on Ace's blogroll?

Posted by: uscitizen at March 01, 2015 10:54 AM (DX/aF)

4 Would you say I have a plethora of black diamonds?

Posted by: El Guapo at March 01, 2015 10:55 AM (mx5oN)

5 Man, that TP-82 would be a sweet collector's piece, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2015 10:56 AM (6exC1)

6 Ola, Gun Thread.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 10:56 AM (UMBjg)

7 Diamonds ?

I fixed them. One of the blog software's, er, charms, is that it turns a lot of non-alphabet characters ( things like ", ' ,-, etc..) into black diamonds when you publish a thread. So if you write the thing on a word processor, you have to go back and change those characters to Pixy approved ones in the post editor. To add to the fun they don't show up as diamonds in the preview. I always try to find and replace all of them before going live, but this time I missed a bunch. All fixed now.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 11:00 AM (WvS3w)

8 Bottom picture, what happens when you bling a weapon too far.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 01, 2015 11:00 AM (4BDL3)

9 I use the 1.5 Cal., 8.5" "Monster" round when I'm "pinking".

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 01, 2015 11:01 AM (72D6h)

10 Are there derringers chambered for .30-06?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 01, 2015 11:02 AM (UZBFV)

11 Hot damn. Ammoman still has M855, but they have raised the price $100 to $690 for 1,000. Natchez has them for $550, but I am not sure they are going to fill my order.

I spent a ridiculous amount of money to buy 1,000 rounds of the military 5.7x28, SS198LF, cause I figure ammo designed to be Armour piercing will probably get banned some day. It's a good investment.

Those Black guys in NJ better not transport those guns, they might get arrested. (By the way the old guy's charges were dropped by the DA)

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 11:02 AM (0FSuD)

12 Guns are scary
So send them to me pls
Cause I'm a giver of course

Posted by: Navycopjoe (thugging through the doghouse) at March 01, 2015 11:04 AM (r3m4C)

13 Bewbs.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 01, 2015 11:05 AM (MYPM9)

14 Best gun thread ever!

Posted by: navybrat at March 01, 2015 11:06 AM (JgC5a)

15 Got 2 new automatics recently, and one fits in well with the thread.
It's a 7.62 Tokarev from the late'40's. Still in original cosmoline. (or whatever the Czech's used in '48. Walrus grease, for all I know). A 7.62 is a .32 caliber.
This munition (7.62x25) is almost twice the velocity of a .32 ACP. Essentially, it's a ".32 magnum". Very nice pistol, without the is-made-in-tractor-factory look of most East-Bloc handguns.

The other is Colt 1903 Hammerless .32 made in 1915 and in great shape. An early Saint John of Browning masterpiece. It's essentially a half-scale 1911. Bogart used one to cap that Nazi what were trying to keep Elsa from escaping Casablanca. So it's got that going for it, which is nice.

Posted by: retropox at March 01, 2015 11:07 AM (FaXMV)

16 So......
Switched out the AR barrel with the Yankee hill fluted and added the angled brake
It made a difference at 100 yds

Posted by: Navycopjoe (thugging through the doghouse) at March 01, 2015 11:07 AM (r3m4C)

17 Bottom picture, what happens when you bling a weapon too far.

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And is that a hamster at the back of it?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 01, 2015 11:07 AM (MYPM9)

18 Nice video aerating the BG. Any US online papers have this?

Posted by: dogfish at March 01, 2015 11:07 AM (1vYi0)

19 I love the smell of new Gun Threads. It smells like...... Unique!

That said, would Old Gun Thread smell of sulfur and charcoal?

And along those lines, it might be helpful to the horde if we all had a good recipe and process for making our own blackpowder. The rate Unca Sugga is going, we're going to be down to front-stuffers, anyway.

If I can make my own blackpowder, and distill my own whiskey, I might just have a chance of surviving these troubling times.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 01, 2015 11:08 AM (RzZOc)

20 11 The crazy thing is that the "AP" designation for M855 stands for "anti-personnel" not "armor piercing".

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 11:08 AM (WvS3w)

21 Now we're talkin.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 01, 2015 11:09 AM (ucDmr)

22
Ah yes, the AKSU, Suchka, or "little bitch".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 01, 2015 11:09 AM (VB0Qs)

23 I love the smell of new Gun Threads.

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Smells like treason to us.

Posted by: Obama's ATF at March 01, 2015 11:10 AM (MYPM9)

24 Bottom picture, what happens when you bling a weapon too far.

Pretty sure I've seen that thing drawn by Rob Liefeld before.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, by the Pale Moon light at March 01, 2015 11:10 AM (m9V0o)

25 Picked up a BAR week before last. Finally handled an AR the other day. Light, handy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 11:11 AM (UMBjg)

26 OT, but awesome:

http://tinyurl.com/Cool-Movie-Posters-From-Quotes

Posted by: Sharkman at March 01, 2015 11:12 AM (72D6h)

27
In 1986, Congress revised the Gun Control Act, inserting prohibitions against the manufacture and import of "armor-piercing ammunition."

Ah, the great "Teflon bullet" panic. Ginned up by an NBC fauxumentary, pushed by cop unions and gun-control everything groups, enacted into law by a hysterical Republican Senate:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teflon-coated_bullet

tinyurl.com/k6tga5w

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 01, 2015 11:12 AM (kdS6q)

28 Bottom picture, what happens when you bling a weapon too far.

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Pfft.

Posted by: Monster Hunters, Inc. at March 01, 2015 11:12 AM (MYPM9)

29 "And is that a hamster at the back of it?"

Nope. Auxiliary power unit/personal massager.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 11:13 AM (UMBjg)

30 and furthermore...
still looking for 1908 .32 Pocket Hammerless.
It's the .308 big brother of the .32 Pocket Hammerless.
Still a "half-scale" M1911' though.

There is a little Vest pocket Hammerless in .25 also made by Colt from Saint John of Browning. They are even harder to find.

Posted by: retropox at March 01, 2015 11:13 AM (FaXMV)

31 Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 11:00 AM (WvS3w)
Thanks WD, but I could only see elbows

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 01, 2015 11:14 AM (R8hU8)

32 Picked up a BAR week before last.

Holy crap, have you fired it yet? How does it handle?

Posted by: Sharkman at March 01, 2015 11:14 AM (72D6h)

33 If I had that Tacticool piece, I'd learn to fire it from the hip.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 01, 2015 11:15 AM (Rybx/)

34 Are there derringers chambered for .30-06?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 01, 2015 11:02 AM (UZBFV)

Man, that would be a hand-held flame thrower, wouldn't it. I doubt a quarter of the powder would burn before the slug exited the barrel, so it probably wouldn't have a vicious kick. But it would shoot several yards of hot fire, I expect.

You know, you see all the bumph published on the Internet about 3-D printing of guns, but how could you 3-D print ammo? Never happen, I expect. Unless, perhaps, you had a dedicated 3D printer with stores of gunpowder and primer compound, both of which the regime could easily control, right?

Personally, I'd like to see a set of good plans that would enable a home machinist with a lathe and drill press to build a nice little double-barreled .22 Derringer.

Incidentally, for the Morons living in Canada, or even close to the border, Princess Auto is about to have a sale on mini-mills for $699 Canadian. With the Loonie at about 80-odd cents U.S. right now, that's about $560 U.S. Ought to be the bee's knees for doing those 80% lowers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2015 11:17 AM (6exC1)

35 The other is Colt 1903 Hammerless .32 made in 1915 and in great shape.
An early Saint John of Browning masterpiece. It's essentially a
half-scale 1911. Bogart used one to cap that Nazi what were trying to
keep Elsa from escaping Casablanca. So it's got that going for it,
which is nice.

32's and 7.65 were very popular before WWII. I have a 7.65 DWM Luger pre WWII. I would love to have a 1903, they are sweet guns. 7.65 luger (30 luger) shells are different that 32.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 11:18 AM (0FSuD)

36 The last pic proves you can never have to many laser sights, flashlights, scopes, bipods, brakes and wine openers attached to the barrel of your gun.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 01, 2015 11:19 AM (ZbCKc)

37 There is a little Vest pocket Hammerless in .25 also made by Colt from Saint John of Browning.

Roommate had one of those. Man it was well made.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 11:20 AM (0FSuD)

38 My three-year-old was "shooting" passersby from our front window yesterday with his toy gun. So I taught him the all-important phrase to yell at strangers: "Get off my lawn!"

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 01, 2015 11:21 AM (MYPM9)

39 "Holy crap, have you fired it yet?"

Haven't gotten it yet. Bought online. Modern commercial version.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 11:21 AM (UMBjg)

40
The other is Colt 1903 Hammerless .32 made in 1915
and in great shape. An early Saint John of Browning masterpiece. It's
essentially a half-scale 1911. Bogart used one to cap that Nazi what
were trying to keep Elsa from escaping Casablanca. So it's got that
going for it, which is nice.

Posted by: retropox at March 01, 2015 11:07 AM (FaXMV)

Bogie was a big fan of the 1903/08 pistols for on-screen use. He was a small man, seriously scrawny dude with no chest, and a 1911 dwarfed his hands and made him look smaller on screen. So the 03/08s had the same 1911 look in the muzzle, but were small enough to look in proportion to his hands/body.

Just goes to show how Bogie was a titan of acting. Scrawny, ugly, jowly, head about three sizes too big for his body, lisping, born with a silver spoon up his ass.........and he carves out an unassailable persona as a Hollywood sex symbol, blue collar tough guy.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 01, 2015 11:22 AM (VB0Qs)

41 And here I thought the green tip designated the round as "Eco-friendly".

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at March 01, 2015 11:22 AM (KElLn)

42 Gecko45 is the shit. Still LMAO reading it.

Morning horde.

Thanks for the thread WeirdDave.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2015 11:24 AM (HKu0W)

43 I've seen it mentioned that the ammo ban is a retaliatory action for the Mance v. Holder loss by the government.

Seems plausible. I guess.

Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at March 01, 2015 11:25 AM (9R4HJ)

44 Haven't gotten it yet. Bought online. Modern commercial version.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 11:21 AM (UMBjg)

My hands are twitching just thinking about firing it.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 01, 2015 11:25 AM (72D6h)

45 39. Which site?
Gunbroker?

Posted by: Navycopjoe (thugging through the doghouse) at March 01, 2015 11:25 AM (r3m4C)

46 Cop killer bullets, Barky and the ATF. One of these days they'll figure out that a 180 gr SPBT out of a 30-06 is even more dangerous and then they'll be after my favorite elk round....and every other large caliber bullet. Then the guns themselves.

Almost as annoying, listening to talking heads on the tube that know nothing about guns or ammunition talking about the issue. So much stupid blowing so much hot air.

Posted by: fairweatherbill bracing for the cold at March 01, 2015 11:26 AM (oUp+w)

47
OT:

Must watch speech by Marco Rubio in defense of Bibi's speech and the State of Israel.

Why oh why did he have to destroy his presidential aspirations with that phony Gang of 8? How could someone so intelligent and passionate be so stupid?

Too bad. But do watch this.

http:// www.israelvideonetwork.com/one-of-the-most-powerful-speeches -in-washington-on-netanyahu-and-iran/

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2015 11:28 AM (CMkNk)

48 Also? Bogart couldn't pronounce "Webley-Fosbery."
The one that shot Miles. His partner.
Maltese Falcon was a remake, and at the time some thought the 1931 version was better. It starred a Mexican guy named Jacob Krantz. Yeah, they're everywhere.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 01, 2015 11:28 AM (xq1UY)

49 10 Are there derringers chambered for .30-06?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 01, 2015 11:02 AM (UZBFV)

That's crazy talk.

Now chambered in .45-70 is a different story.

http://tinyurl.com/q7y5hvv

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2015 11:28 AM (HKu0W)

50 46. I think these fools don't realize any modern rifle round will cut through level 3 body armor
The vests were made for handgun ammo

Posted by: Navycopjoe (thugging through the doghouse) at March 01, 2015 11:29 AM (r3m4C)

51
@47 - make sure there are no spaces between words. Had to remove a few so it could post.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2015 11:29 AM (CMkNk)

52 41 And here I thought the green tip designated the round as "Eco-friendly".
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at March 01, 2015 11:22 AM (KElLn)

I thought it means it's for shooting zombies.

Posted by: stace at March 01, 2015 11:29 AM (ImzkZ)

53 I used to have a WWI Mauser pocket pistol chambered 25. I had an after market magazine and didn't like to feed the chamber. Always the stovepipe. Lost in the canoe mishap 0f 2008.

Posted by: fairweatherbill bracing for the cold at March 01, 2015 11:31 AM (oUp+w)

54 Where is the cupholder on that Tacticool scary black rifle?

Posted by: butch at March 01, 2015 11:31 AM (HLx1C)

55 Is that a bewb brake?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 01, 2015 11:32 AM (UZBFV)

56 Supposedly, Russian Soyuz spacecraft still carry a handgun. They land on land, and sometimes they come down off-target. They're the only firearms allowed aboard the ISS.

Posted by: rickl at March 01, 2015 11:32 AM (sdi6R)

57 "My hands are twitching just thinking about firing it."

As soon as I get it and the weather gets nice I'll get it out to the range.

And, yes, Gunbroker.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 11:33 AM (UMBjg)

58 WaPo starts the mau mauing of Justice Roberts. Please be non partisan and don't vote to break up Obama Care.

http://tinyurl.com/pl2ehy6

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 11:34 AM (0FSuD)

59 50, the talking heads certainly don't know, but the ATF and Barky know. If they're successful here, next they come for everything else.

Posted by: fairweatherbill bracing for the cold at March 01, 2015 11:34 AM (oUp+w)

60 56 Supposedly, Russian Soyuz spacecraft still carry a handgun. They land on land, and sometimes they come down off-target. They're the only firearms allowed aboard the ISS.

Posted by: rickl at March 01, 2015 11:32 AM (sdi6R)

Yep. And still the TP-82

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2015 11:35 AM (HKu0W)

61 Would a punt gun penetrate a vest?

*searching gunbroker for new purchase

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2015 11:36 AM (HKu0W)

62 "Now chambered in .45-70 is a different story. "

Damn near slapped him in the forehead. Fun? No. Beats getting eaten by a bear I suppose.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 11:36 AM (UMBjg)

63 Historical note:
The Pocket Hammerless .32 Colt was issued to General Officers in WWII. The .32s were engraved with the General's name. About a 100 are known to exist, and probably many more in family sock drawers. They seldom are sold, and demand a premium.

WWII Movie with the General wearing a .45 is mostly wrong. I've heard that they didn't screw it up in Patton, and that G.C. Scott shoots at the strafing plane with his .32 auto. (But I have no copy to watch and check)

Posted by: retropox at March 01, 2015 11:37 AM (FaXMV)

64 "I think these fools don't realize any modern rifle round will cut through level 3 body armor"

Oh, I think they do. They're testing the waters here, seeing what they can get away with.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 11:39 AM (UMBjg)

65 That pharmacist was pretty cool about the whole thing.

I remember a few years ago it was national news when robbers killed everyone in a pharmacy in some NE gun control Utopia. Meanwhile pharmacists in TX, OK, WV and most everywhere else were killing robbers, and only making local news.

The journolists and Democrats (BIRM), and NE Repubs who discourage and prohibit pharmacists from having guns have blood on their hands.

Posted by: stace at March 01, 2015 11:39 AM (ImzkZ)

66 Oh lookee here.

Moms Demand Attention spokesgal's daughter goes to a school that allows concealed carry.

http://tinyurl.com/lwyxg2e

Protection for me and not for thee.....serf.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2015 11:41 AM (HKu0W)

67 A few weeks ago I sent in my paperwork to the CMP and Tuesday my M1 Garand will be delivered by Fedex. I can't wait!

Posted by: J. Random Dude at March 01, 2015 11:42 AM (8OfdL)

68 Not sure if the Mall Ninja stuff is real or not, but it's funny as hell.

Posted by: BignJames at March 01, 2015 11:43 AM (Eo86b)

69 " I can't wait!"

Enjoy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 11:43 AM (UMBjg)

70 I'm looking for some advice. I work in a crazy dangerous place and I need a skilled tactical nuke operator for back-up.

Posted by: Gecko46 at March 01, 2015 11:45 AM (MYPM9)

71 Saw some Bogie film a number of years ago, about a Japanese plot to blow up the Panama Canal. In one scene with Bogie and Sidney Greenstreet, SG asks Bogie if he's armed. SG then pulls out a .38 or some such. Bogie then pulls out what apparently is a .45, then comments "Look Doc, mine's bigger than yours".
You can see Greenstreet start to crack up.

Posted by: HH at March 01, 2015 11:46 AM (Ce4DF)

72 Want to talk tactical, but no owe will listen to you?

Call 1-900-TAC-TALK

http://youtu.be/08kSncpUnUo

Posted by: TheGuyGetsShirts at March 01, 2015 11:46 AM (yrSgX)

73 The sniper photos remind me of the classic "how not to be seen" sketch: http://youtu.be/ifmRgQX82O4

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 01, 2015 11:47 AM (sH832)

74 " The second is the TP-82, the Soviet "Space Gun"

I had no idea what that thing was. Thanks. What is the "button" at the base of the trigger guard for?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 11:48 AM (UMBjg)

75 Oh, last week the hawaii state senate was doing a bill on the Federal law enforcement safety act where they were going to make it permanent here
That's the one where retired LEOs can carry concealed (which of course affects me YAY!!)
All the crazies came out
Guns on the streets kill!!!
Too many guns!!!!
Yet they forget that day the was two shootings, one and execution style slaying of two

Posted by: Navycopjoe (thugging through the doghouse) at March 01, 2015 11:48 AM (r3m4C)

76 What is the blue (white and gold?) object in the sniper pic?

Knew there was no way it could be the sniper...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 01, 2015 11:49 AM (4DCSq)

77 The Colt 1903 is the most beautiful pistol ever produced. It's a work of art.

This is not a matter of opinion.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 01, 2015 11:51 AM (lG2E3)

78 You guys just don't get it.

Posted by: Gecko46 at March 01, 2015 11:53 AM (MYPM9)

79
Just goes to show how Bogie was a titan of acting. Scrawny, ugly, jowly, head about three sizes too big for his body, lisping, born with a silver spoon up his ass.........and he carves out an unassailable persona as a Hollywood sex symbol, blue collar tough guy.

Well then, I'm ready for my close-up.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at March 01, 2015 11:53 AM (0HooB)

80 Man, so jealous. I love the BAR.

I know I should think of PFC Charles Deglopper when I hear one mentioned, but I have to admit I first think of Kirsten Joy Weiss:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXIRDmII5rk

That Denim Recoil Indicator is magical.

Posted by: Oedipus at March 01, 2015 11:54 AM (CXLVd)

81 What is the blue (white and gold?) object in the sniper pic?

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I just assumed it was something planted to draw the eye away.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at March 01, 2015 11:55 AM (MYPM9)

82
What are you guys up to?
I've had a good week. I found a SKS "M" that takes AK mags and a NHM 91 (Chinese AK) and bought em both. They have been illegal to bring into the US for 25 years.
While those other fellas have been chasing M855 ammo I bought the last 2 crates of the 30 06 Greek HXP (M2 ball) I could find. If Obama wants to whine about armor piercing, let him whine about that.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at March 01, 2015 11:55 AM (vqq9j)

83 HH@71... that was "Across the Pacific" made 1942.
Bogart may have been using the 1903 .32 with the hammer. An early Browning/Colt, without the grip safety.
He used it frequently. Looks awfully like the .45 in his small hands.

Posted by: retropox at March 01, 2015 11:56 AM (FaXMV)

84 I had no idea what that thing was. Thanks. What is the "button" at the base of the trigger guard for?

No idea.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 11:56 AM (WvS3w)

85 Apologies. The TP-82 is no longer in use since 2006.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2015 11:58 AM (HKu0W)

86 @72 That's "Across The Pacific." Original plot called for an attack on Pearl Harbor. They changed the screenplay; nobody'd believe that.

I don't throw "racism" around flagrantly, but boy that movie's got it. At least the Japanese are portrayed as sneaky and sinister, and not incompetent. Near-sightedness does rear its ugly head though. And Greenstreet, as usual, is thoroughly debased.

Snappy dialogue with "the Canadian gal." Bogart got that a lot.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 01, 2015 11:58 AM (xq1UY)

87 What is the "button" at the base of the trigger guard for?

--

Activates the space laser mode. Duh.

Posted by: Cosmonaut at March 01, 2015 11:58 AM (MYPM9)

88 In Maltese Falcon boggie takes a 45 away from the punk and the other ghey sort of guy has a colt 32. Lots of guns in old movies and every girl had one in her purse.

Those were the days. You could order your pistol from Sears and have it shipped to your home, no questions asked.

http://tinyurl.com/q3ceqqb

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 11:59 AM (0FSuD)

89 The irony of classifying ammo as armor piercing when it was retired for not piercing armor very well is lost on an organization, ATF, that does not know much about guns, other than the cartels want them, and ATF wants the cartels to have them.

Posted by: Pat at March 01, 2015 11:59 AM (AivPA)

90 "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXIRDmII5rk"

Nice lines.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 12:01 PM (UMBjg)

91 @80 I know Kirsten Weiss. Those pictures do not do her justice. No kidding.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 01, 2015 12:01 PM (xq1UY)

92 I found this at the end of the boob video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPJVF-w0We8

They're no so much funny as terrifying. Except for the white gangsta wannabee who said, "Dude! My mom is gonna kill me!" That was funny as shit.

Posted by: rickl at March 01, 2015 12:01 PM (sdi6R)

93 Ah, was wondering what that film was. I've only seen it once, many years ago. But I remembered that scene as it made me LoL.

Posted by: HH at March 01, 2015 12:01 PM (Ce4DF)

94 More fun gun ads!

http://tinyurl.com/ms6fr8c

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 12:02 PM (0FSuD)

95 I presume that button at trigger guard releases the knife folded in the handle.

Posted by: Pat at March 01, 2015 12:03 PM (AivPA)

96 77 - Cloyd Freud, who is unemployed...
is a gentleman of discerning tastes and a scholar of repute.

The 1903 Hammerless is indeed the most beautiful handgun ever made.

I saw a mint condition one at the first gun show I ever attended.
In Phoenix 2 weeks ago.
(and wasn't THAT an eye-opening day of American sociology...)

It was Colt's original Royal Blue.

It's beauty transcended space and time and created an aura in the continuum that absorbed all the ugliness of humanity that gazed upon it.

I wonder if there is one in the Museum of Modern Art?

Posted by: retropox at March 01, 2015 12:04 PM (FaXMV)

97 Obama to ban .22LR BY EO cuz they wre used in teh Crusades.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 01, 2015 12:05 PM (U6f54)

98
I wonder if there is one in the Museum of Modern Art?

Posted by: retropox at March 01, 2015 12:04 PM (FaXMV)

No but in Cody, WY they have a bunch.

http://tinyurl.com/m2f769p

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 12:08 PM (0FSuD)

99 74 " The second is the TP-82, the Soviet "Space Gun"

I had no idea what that thing was. Thanks. What is the "button" at the base of the trigger guard for?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 11:48 AM (UMBjg)

Searching and searching. It appears to be a grip safety.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2015 12:09 PM (HKu0W)

100 Check out the pics of the museum on trip advisor.

http://tinyurl.com/nceket6

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 12:10 PM (0FSuD)

101 Afternoon, all.

Gecko45 is one of the most hilarious things I've ever read. Love the "boots" that allow him to "climb walls."

*wiping tears*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 01, 2015 12:11 PM (FsuaD)

102 I found this at the end of the boob video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPJVF-w0We8

They're no so much funny as terrifying. Except for the white
gangsta wannabee who said, "Dude! My mom is gonna kill me!" That was
funny as shit.

Just don't be disrespecting him Yo.

I've seen that before, I want to know what rifle those Arabs are shooting.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 12:11 PM (WvS3w)

103 That Fundamental Concepts thread from yesterday messed me up. Not because it was so extreme, and it was extreme, but because, with Obama as president, it was so gosh darn plausible.

I really don't want a night watch, every night, to protect my farm or business from a squad of armed night raiders a la Rhodesia.

Posted by: Smythe the Paranoid at March 01, 2015 12:13 PM (tBkAA)

104 A friend at the club is "Chief of Security" for a community college, and yes he gets mall-ninja jokes. But he's a hell of a shot, is a rated instructor, and teaches cops.

He gets to play with a lot of bulletproof vests, because they "age out" and have to be destroyed. He's happy to do that; hangs them up and shoots them. And he says, for just certain values of "armor piercing" meaning "will the bullet find its way through the Kevlar fibers," ordinary .22 cannot be beat. Gets 'em every time.

Now, it uses up most of its energy getting through there, of course. But once you're changing the rules and definitions, hang on to your goodies. Storm's comin'.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 01, 2015 12:13 PM (xq1UY)

105 "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPJVF-w0We8"

At the end when the guy looks down the barrel.....cringe worthy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 12:15 PM (UMBjg)

106
Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 12:11 PM (WvS3w)

I am assuming it is the video I've seen. If so it is a .577 Tyrannosaur/.577 T-Rex.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2015 12:17 PM (HKu0W)

107 Thanks, nippy. I never knew.

A museum.

A gun museum.

In Wyoming.

"America! What a country!" *Yaakov Smirnov*

Posted by: retropox at March 01, 2015 12:18 PM (FaXMV)

108 T-Rex vid-

http://tinyurl.com/c49ujqa

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2015 12:18 PM (HKu0W)

109 J.J. He was liekely urged into His failure by the GopE.

Iran Fars newspaper (state paper i believe) is claiming Isis is getting arnaments / weapons dropped into Iraq by the usa.
also claiming Shin Bet did the bombing in Argentina.
@powerline

and These are th people we are making Deals with while this administration is shunning Bibi?

Because somehow deals made with Iran will be a peaceful and beneficial for the world?

I think often about Obama's failures on Foreign policy.
(world burns openly)

and somehow this 'deal' will be beneficial ?
to Whom!?

sorry my hair pulling rant for the day.

Posted by: comrade willow at March 01, 2015 12:21 PM (nqBYe)

110 I am assuming it is the video I've seen. If so it is a .577 Tyrannosaur/.577 T-Rex.

Yup. Thanks.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 12:21 PM (WvS3w)

111 T-Rex on gunbroker for the low low price of $3,900.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 01, 2015 12:21 PM (HKu0W)

112 Nip I will be out that way this summer, just added that museum to the list. Thanks!

Posted by: JDub at March 01, 2015 12:22 PM (X3xYu)

113 105
At the end when the guy looks down the barrel.....cringe worthy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 01, 2015 12:15 PM (UMBjg)

He was re-creating the old Mountain Dew commercial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyu4Tpoq8hc

Posted by: rickl at March 01, 2015 12:22 PM (sdi6R)

114 @112

There is an entrance to Yellowstone in Cody.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 01, 2015 12:25 PM (0FSuD)

115 Remember those teflon coated 'cop killer' bullets?
and the media hysteria that got them banned?

and the current anti police propaganda blaming the police for the violence in Ferguson, and NYC?

If the CIA was doing a psywar op to destabilize the country, what would they do differently?

Posted by: Smythe the Paranoid at March 01, 2015 12:25 PM (tBkAA)

116 CBD has provided a Nood.

Posted by: johnd01 at March 01, 2015 12:25 PM (VGqjW)

117 CBD has provided a Nood.
Posted by: johnd01

cries.

Posted by: comrade willow at March 01, 2015 12:26 PM (nqBYe)

118 Re: Mall Ninja Gecko45 (and his sock puppet SPECOPS).

After reading at the link, I concluded that he's a troll. A brilliant one.

Posted by: Edgar Allan Schmoe at March 01, 2015 12:31 PM (OLFrt)

119 Here's kind of a fun LaRue ad I just got in my email.

http://tinyurl.com/qzfqn55

They drop the rifle out of airplane, and the guy on the ground assembles it, shoots down a little drone, then goes for some long range steel.

Posted by: stace, blocked by Shannon Watts on twitter at March 01, 2015 01:23 PM (ImzkZ)

120 I bucked the trend and ordered x39 ammo this week...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 01, 2015 01:30 PM (4DCSq)

121 The illegal takeover of the internet will be revered in court as soon as Verizen can get it scheduled. This is the thrird time OBama has pulled this shit. The ammo ban will be reversed as soon as they can get someone who meets the "standing" test.

The major point about both of these illegal acts by Obama is that Congress has told him he can do anything he wants and they will do NOTHING.

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2015 01:45 PM (wlDny)

122
@120 (Spun and Murky) - yep I feel the same. I ain't buying that M855 at panic prices. Them guys are buying up anything .223 or 5.56, even stuff that isn't banned.
It's ridiculous.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at March 01, 2015 02:12 PM (vqq9j)

123 #19, the Civil War ordnance officers manuals, the 1861 Union and 1863 Confederate versions, are both online as .pdfs. Everything from how to set up a powder works to how to cast cannon. Download and print unless you can find a hard copy reprinted somewhere.

#20, no, it is simply Ammunition, Ball, M855. The AP load for the 5.56mm is the VERY rare (as in I have never actually seen it) M995.

#41/52, actually the greentip name for M855 is from the paint on the tip. See, we alone of the NATO allies used an earlier version of 5.56mm, the 55 grain M193. NATO jumped in with the 62 grain Belgian designed SS109, which we type-classed as the 855.

Since the old short 55 grain loads didn't do well in 1:7 twist SAW and M16A2 barrels and vice versa (Jesus, try putting 855 through an A1, it looks like a shotgun pattern), the Ordnance geniuses said paint the tips as was already done for tracer or whatever.

NATO SS109 isn't painted. The British and German stuff I have fired is plain old copper, them not having a legacy stash of other 5.56mm.

#63, most general officers stuck their 1903s in a footlocker or sock drawer and carried a 1911 if they bothered arming themselves at all. Of course Jim Gavin hauled a Garand around, but he was still jumping out of airplanes leading his division up front.

These days general officers have to pay for their own presentation M9s, and neither general I know personally bothered. Neither's wife would let him =)

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at March 01, 2015 02:19 PM (cAUrF)

124 Is that a 91/30 in that black guy's hands?

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at March 01, 2015 02:46 PM (rwI+c)

125
124 Is that a 91/30 in that black guy's hands?

The bolt looks right and the mag is a bit blurry, but that sure looks like a super long barrel...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 01, 2015 03:25 PM (4DCSq)

126 I have no idea. The bolt does look Mosin, but the stock, barrel bands and endcap don't look right for that.

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at March 01, 2015 03:51 PM (rwI+c)

127 As I mentioned earlier this week I finally have my Mosin 91/30 coming in (with aftermarket scope kit).

I bought a tuna can of that commie ("slightly" corrosive) ammo. What's a good solution for scubbing it out with. I assume the bore, chamber and bolt are most at risk?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 01, 2015 05:05 PM (XO6WW)

128 Spritz with Windex with ammonia, or similar, to neutralize the salts. Then your normal cleaning choices.

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at March 01, 2015 05:09 PM (rwI+c)

129 The Krinkov is an AK74, if I'm not mistaken.

5.45x39, as I'm sure you all know.

Posted by: Hanzo at March 01, 2015 05:35 PM (vaoP5)

130 The manufacturer says that it's chambered in 7.62. http://blackhorsearsenal.com/BHAKR39--Krinkov-Pistol-Chambered-in-762-X-39_p_73.html

Posted by: Weirddave at March 01, 2015 05:56 PM (WvS3w)

131 #128 Thanks!

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 01, 2015 06:00 PM (XO6WW)

132 Richard, I actually use three boresnakes on my milsurp .30 rifles when I get them home (after spritzing them at the range). One soaked in the ammonia mix, one dry, and one with CLP and the like. Stored in ziplock bags.

Boresnakes are so much easier than patches. About every third or fourth trip I put them in a mesh bag and throw them in the shop rag load in the washer.

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at March 01, 2015 06:48 PM (rwI+c)

133 "124
Is that a 91/30 in that black guy's hands?"

Thought at first it might be a 1903 Springfield, but in truth it looks like a Mauser 98 to me.

Posted by: craig at March 01, 2015 08:12 PM (8kWMA)

134 Maybe a P14 or M1917, based on the big belly stock shape. The rod out the front is throwing me though.

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