Boeher Attempts to Capitulate to Reid and Obama; Fails

So, Boehner was attempting to pass a three week "clean" CR to keep Homeland Security funded short-term. Even though this was short-term, it does seem to represent a capitulation; the Democrats demand a clean bill or they themselves will shut the government down, so Boehner and McConnell of course have to capitulate completely to keep The Democrats from shutting down the government.

Boehner tried to do this with only Republican votes; I guess Democrats were told not to vote for it.

Boehner has failed -- not enough Republicans were willing to get on their knees and fellate Harry Reid.

Oh, hundreds were willing. But not quite enough.


Catching up a bit now: Boehner could have lost 27 defectors and still passed the bill.

But he lost a full 51 Republicans.

I do not believe Boehner has the confidence to lead his caucus. I think that is becoming more obvious every day.

Losing a 51 votes on a must-have vote shows that there is something wrong with the leadership. Not enough Republicans are following him. They are willing to openly defy him and humiliate him.

It is time for a new leadership which can better lead both wings of the party.

Leadership that does not include Kevin McCarthy.

Update: This defeat comes hours after the DHS will run out of funding authorization, so I guess we'll be having a (very partial) shutdown (limited to nonessential personnel).

Update [JohnE]: Full list of GOP nays (52, not 51 as Ace embarrassingly claimed above).


Posted by: Ace at 05:19 PM




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1 Boehner needs to step down. He's a failure.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 27, 2015 05:20 PM (OiH3z)

2 and so it begins

Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at February 27, 2015 05:20 PM (evdj2)

3
RED RED RED!!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:20 PM (CMkNk)

4
RED RED RED!!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:20 PM (CMkNk)

5 So what now ?

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:20 PM (Bn6aD)

6 Red and Italicans!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2015 05:21 PM (KuU4f)

7 Boehner and McConnell make me see red.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 27, 2015 05:21 PM (i55o+)

8 I like what you've done with the place.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 27, 2015 05:21 PM (evdj2)

9
And Italic!

And the Putin post is ka-Putin!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:21 PM (CMkNk)

10 Wow, everything is so.....Red

Posted by: Old Blue at February 27, 2015 05:21 PM (AxABj)

11 What is this, a rash? I'm feeling all red and itchy.

Posted by: Grabthar's Hammer at February 27, 2015 05:21 PM (Edob3)

12 Burp

Posted by: The Barrel at February 27, 2015 05:21 PM (evdj2)

13 Boehner and McConnell make me see red.

Are you sure of the color? Remember that top new story about that dress...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:21 PM (Bn6aD)

14 Is this a right-leaning red blog?

Posted by: Donner at February 27, 2015 05:21 PM (gxPh6)

15 I only see blue

Posted by: Roman Maroni at February 27, 2015 05:22 PM (vCA4F)

16 Christ, the Reds have taken over!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2015 05:22 PM (oKE6c)

17 Fuck it, I'm going to the CPAC hotel and party, I think that hot little Peggy Noonan kinda digs me.

Posted by: John Boehner at February 27, 2015 05:22 PM (0KY4M)

18 Well, this isn't what I expected to see.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 27, 2015 05:22 PM (lo9T5)

19 Shut it down. Eff 'em.

Posted by: FDR's Television at February 27, 2015 05:22 PM (ne2fm)

20 fargin blue at that

Posted by: Roman Maroni at February 27, 2015 05:22 PM (vCA4F)

21 Headline on the MFM tonight - Rethuglikkkans shut down government!

Posted by: Old Blue at February 27, 2015 05:22 PM (AxABj)

22
I'm suddenly having a flashback to 7th grade and having a paper with "F See Me" handed to me.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:22 PM (CMkNk)

23 Did Ace accidentally ban himself again?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 27, 2015 05:22 PM (KFdZd)

24 You have to use deep focus to see the spaceship.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 27, 2015 05:22 PM (evdj2)

25 REDRUM! REDRUM! REDRUM! REDRUM! REDRUM! REDRUM!

Posted by: Dang at February 27, 2015 05:22 PM (MNq6o)

26 Better red than dead.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (YBq+E)

27 Is this blog red and white or black and blue?

Posted by: Tami at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (v0/PR)

28 Boehner...useless and incompetent as a Republican leader.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (KuU4f)

29 strategy:
Is there a recess coming up? Congress was adjourning and it's going to be a gay old time back home with adoring constituents...

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (wlWrh)

30 FCC says only red on Fridays

Posted by: Roman Maroni at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (vCA4F)

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (oKE6c)

32
At least it happened on a Friday.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (CMkNk)

33 Let's see if that did it.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (oKE6c)

34 {insert "GRRRRRRRRR!!!" photo here}

Posted by: John McCain at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (u9OP6)

35
Guys, put some more ice on the oysters and the Grey Goose. Boehner will be a little late tonight.

Posted by: The Friday Happy Hour at Urbana

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (kdS6q)

36 Now lets get out the tar and feathers and get Boehner and McConnell...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (Bn6aD)

37
At least the Dago Red Italics are gone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (CMkNk)

38 Wolverines!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (V+kmg)

39 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 27, 2015 05:24 PM (M1uf/)

40 This is just the first effect of Net Neutrality. How you like it so far?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 27, 2015 05:24 PM (5buP8)

41 Nope.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2015 05:24 PM (oKE6c)

42 This blog has gone red!

COMMY PINKO SCUM!

Posted by: junior at February 27, 2015 05:24 PM (UWFpX)

43 33
Let's see if that did it.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2015 05:23 PM (oKE6c)


BZZZZZZZT

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2015 05:24 PM (KuU4f)

44 Good . shut the fucker down for good. DHS was a horrible idea from the get go

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:24 PM (nzKvP)

45 Everybody else is seeing red, but I'm seeing a white flag out of the Speaker's office.

Is this thing calibrated?

Posted by: Fringe at February 27, 2015 05:24 PM (oWl4T)

46 I think normal Americans need to ape the illegals' bullshit storm the office stuff so that they know that lacasa and lurasa isn't the only game in town...especially for our senators.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at February 27, 2015 05:24 PM (wlWrh)

47 Help me CSS! help me

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at February 27, 2015 05:24 PM (TPjwz)

48 Okay, I've been seeing red all week, but this is just over the top.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 27, 2015 05:24 PM (M1uf/)

49 The spice must flow

Posted by: Roman Maroni at February 27, 2015 05:24 PM (vCA4F)

50 All racist comments shall be displayed in red italics.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (TPjwz)

51 Could it be that enough of them just said "Screw it", we sent the Senate a Bill. Let them unfuck their end.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (lo9T5)

52 I think normal Americans need to ape the illegals' bullshit storm the office stuff so that they know that lacasa and lurasa isn't the only game in town...especially for our senators.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at February 27, 2015 05:24 PM (wlWrh)


Normal Americans have jobs. No time.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (V+kmg)

53 Better dead than red.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (h4vJk)

54 maybe the red is intentional, like that story I heard about Joe Biden and the... nevermind

Posted by: mallfly at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (bJm7W)

55 NO BLACK FONTS?

Posted by: Al Sharpton at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (vCA4F)

56 I'm in tears.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (Gcu5R)

57 Mr. Spades, please report to The Barrel. Mr. Spades to the barrel.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (YBq+E)

58 See I told you it wasn't red it was black..

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (Bn6aD)

59
This shade matches a couple of accent walls at chez Sefton.

Nice. But it's killing my corneas.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (CMkNk)

60 Does anyone know when the DHS actually runs out of $$. i fly to Vegas Monday. It'd be nice to be able to get home...

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (5buP8)

61 Just how I like my wymens. Red and tilted right.

Posted by: CUS at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (wcLJG)

62 Better dead than red.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (h4vJk)

I'll go along with that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (nzKvP)

63 55 NO BLACK FONTS?
------
Rayciss!

Posted by: Old Blue at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (AxABj)

64

AND. . . we're back.

In black!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (CMkNk)

65 ERMAGERD!!!

REPUBLICANS ARE SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!

Posted by: blaster at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (Rx8ML)

66 I didn't know RdBrewer was colorblind.

Posted by: SarahW at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (Lbv/k)

67 I kinda liked the red.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (evdj2)

68 Better thread, in red.

Posted by: Dang at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (MNq6o)

69 >>>15 I only see blue

hah! I see what you did there

Posted by: ace at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (E+pqw)

70 Does anyone know when the DHS actually runs out of $$. i fly to Vegas Monday. It'd be nice to be able to get home...
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (5buP

Nobody gets off. They have to work

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (nzKvP)

71 61 Just how I like my wymens. Red and tilted right.
Posted by: CUS at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (wcLJG)


One out of two ain't bad.

Posted by: Lizzie Sacajawea at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (CMkNk)

72 That's Mr. O'Spades, thank you.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (lo9T5)

73 Ya know, that dress thing just went right over my head.

Posted by: Yr Prom Date at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM (TPjwz)

74 It is time for a new leadership which can better lead both wings of the party.

I suspect no such leadership exists. Some of the TX delegation in the House, maybe. They've been there long enough to be "establishment" but are Conservative enough to work with the TruCons.

But, mostly, I don't think it exists. The Rockefeller Wing will not accept anything except pure submission from the TEA Party Wing, and the TEA Party Wing seems to be done submitting.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 27, 2015 05:27 PM (M1uf/)

75 Hoyer is a nasty lying prick

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:27 PM (nzKvP)

76 Is this the same bill the Repukes in the Senate passed? So they sold us out and Boner wanted to but failed.

Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2015 05:27 PM (wlDny)

77 Boehner fails at failing.

That is not a double-negative.

Posted by: The Unfailing Hat at February 27, 2015 05:27 PM (0Ew3K)

78
So a Russky gets whacked and the thread gets bumped.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:27 PM (CMkNk)

79 The red reminded me of my people...

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at February 27, 2015 05:28 PM (MNq6o)

80 Anything that doesn't involve sending a Sawzall with a 40-grit dildo in the chuck up to the White House represents a capitulation.

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2015 05:28 PM (o+SC1)

81 Boehner fails at failing.

Run Him out on a G-damn rail...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:28 PM (Bn6aD)

82 I'm in tears.

I was in the previous thread watching Ace work his Intarwebz magik on MUMR.

That is some funny shit. But if you blink, you miss it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at February 27, 2015 05:28 PM (0HooB)

83 And now a personal message for our friends in the neutral net:
Sally has long pigtails
I repeat
Sally has long pigtails
Now back to our normal commenting.

Posted by: Nothing to see here at February 27, 2015 05:28 PM (GuwT9)

84 Is this the same bill the Repukes in the Senate passed? So they sold us out and Boner wanted to but failed.
Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2015 05:27 PM (wlDny)


Similar bill. Not the same

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:28 PM (nzKvP)

85 lololol

Posted by: Lauren at February 27, 2015 05:28 PM (MYCIw)

86 Cry me a river.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 27, 2015 05:28 PM (Gcu5R)

87 So a Russky gets whacked and the thread gets bumped.

In fairness, Putin having an opponent whacked isn't front page news.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 27, 2015 05:28 PM (evdj2)

88 @77 - but two failures does NOT make a success.

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2015 05:28 PM (o+SC1)

89 Is this the same bill the Repukes in the Senate passed? So they sold us out and Boner wanted to but failed.
Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2015 05:27 PM (wlDny)


Similar bill. Not the same

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:28 PM (nzKvP)

Oh no. The vote in the House was just a 3 week extension. That is what just went down in flames

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:29 PM (nzKvP)

90 I'm still not sure what happened. So maybe it won't affect me...

Posted by: Dang at February 27, 2015 05:29 PM (MNq6o)

91 88 @77 - but two failures does NOT make a success.
Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2015 05:28 PM (o+SC1)


But 3 do.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:29 PM (CMkNk)

92
In fairness, Putin having an opponent whacked isn't front page news.

No, the question of the color of a dress is...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:29 PM (Bn6aD)

93 O/T FCC says N.Neutering will have "drastic" tax implications. When you hear "It's NOT about the money..." It's ALWAYS about the money.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 27, 2015 05:29 PM (5buP8)

94 How about some LGBT coloring?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 27, 2015 05:29 PM (Gcu5R)

95 Better dead than red.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 27, 2015 05:25 PM (h4vJk)
I'll go along with that
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:26 PM


It's even more fun when you take it to apply to the red bastards downrange.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 27, 2015 05:29 PM (h4vJk)

96 This is gonna ruin obamas cocktail hour...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:30 PM (Bn6aD)

97 @91 - hopefully enough of one to get Boehner bounced from the Speakership.

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2015 05:30 PM (o+SC1)

98
I can just see that drunken bastard yelling "DO OVER!" at the top of his lungs.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:30 PM (CMkNk)

99 Derpity derp derp-a-derp!!1!`~eleventy!!1!

*cries*

Posted by: John Boehner at February 27, 2015 05:31 PM (0Ew3K)

100 The only new leadership we need now is a general.

And only followers should be those who muster beneath his flag.

Posted by: Aparagus Tuteme ex Infernis at February 27, 2015 05:31 PM (vEbex)

101 He had to know the votes weren't there but he called for a vote anyway. Don't trust Him.... Somethings up...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:31 PM (Bn6aD)

102 Heh, my congress critter voted the right way for once. Will have to review the very long list of horrible things I've said about him and take one back.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 27, 2015 05:31 PM (zauWW)

103 I find it fascinating that the Dem's will support the JEF's executive over reach to coddle those among us who are here illegally. It's almost like they could care less about us that are born here. Or the rule of law, although they are quick to throw that out there when it suits them. And of course, they'll blame all the conservatives in the country for being racist.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 27, 2015 05:31 PM (AxABj)

104 Good job GOP meanies, you killed Spock with your closure of hate

Posted by: hookedonteledildonics at February 27, 2015 05:31 PM (a1dgx)

105 93 O/T FCC says N.Neutering will have "drastic" tax implications. When you hear "It's NOT about the money..." It's ALWAYS about the money.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 27, 2015 05:29 PM (5buP


It is axiomatic that whatever the government says or does has the exact opposite effect and meaning.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:31 PM (CMkNk)

106 I do not believe Boehner has the confidence to lead his caucus. I think that is becoming more obvious every day.

He should have fucking been replaced in 2010.

I guess we'll be having a (very partial) shutdown (limited to nonessential personnel).

Heh. 'Nonessential personnel' is probably 5% of their total staff.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2015 05:32 PM (Q/1Jp)

107 But who is going to get paid govt union benefits to scratch their ass in an airport all day long and molest my grandma?

Posted by: hookedonteledildonics at February 27, 2015 05:32 PM (a1dgx)

108 These losers can't even cave to Obama without fcuking it up.

Posted by: tsj017 at February 27, 2015 05:32 PM (t1f6S)

109 Party of stupid.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at February 27, 2015 05:32 PM (U0Qhv)

110
95% of the Federal Government is not only "non-essential" but detrimental to freedom, liberty and contra the Constitution.

Just saying.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:33 PM (CMkNk)

111 Good job GOP meanies, you killed Spock with your climate of hate.... corrected. GOP also made my swype autocorrect dumb

Posted by: hookedonteledildonics at February 27, 2015 05:33 PM (a1dgx)

112 Good. Fucker tried to take the base for granted. Glad he crashed.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 27, 2015 05:33 PM (CVTpV)

113 If Thom Tillis was in the House he would vote with the yea's. He's just a freshman Senator. Politics you know.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 27, 2015 05:33 PM (wVWRM)

114 Heh. 'Nonessential personnel' is probably 5% of their total staff.

You misspelled "85%."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at February 27, 2015 05:33 PM (0HooB)

115 Like a scene straight out of House of Cards season 1, you know which one if you've seen it...and I could not be happier, mwahaha.

Though Underwood gets what he wants eventually anyway, so maybe celebrations are premature.

Posted by: LizLem at February 27, 2015 05:33 PM (yRwC8)

116
Twice before the final vote, the House was forced into recess because Boehner was trying to scrounge up the votes to pass his funding bill.




"Hey, who's the bitch that stole the tube of Whore's Mouth Red lipstick outta my purse!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 05:34 PM (kdS6q)

117 112 Good. Fucker tried to take the base for granted. Glad he crashed.

Now get the hook...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:34 PM (Bn6aD)

118 96 This is gonna ruin obamas cocktail hour...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:30 PM (Bn6aD)


Nope. They're popping Champaign at the total incompetence of the GOP.

Posted by: WisRich at February 27, 2015 05:34 PM (hdpay)

119
Those words "no funding" do not compute in DC. Impossible to happen.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 27, 2015 05:34 PM (ODxAs)

120 This brings so joy to my cold, black heart.

Posted by: Lauren at February 27, 2015 05:34 PM (MYCIw)

121 I think Mr. Bean would do a better job than Mr. Boehner.

Posted by: Kanye East at February 27, 2015 05:34 PM (gwDMH)

122 >>"They are willing to openly defy him and humiliate him.">>

Wow -- some good news. I didn't think that was possible anymore.

Posted by: rrpjr at February 27, 2015 05:34 PM (s/yC1)

123 Boehner: Oh well. Off for another $400 haircut.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 27, 2015 05:34 PM (Gcu5R)

124 95% of the Federal Government is not only "non-essential" but detrimental to freedom, liberty and contra the Constitution.

Just saying.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:33 PM (CMkNk)


Check your math.

National defense is a mandated function and it's the largest single part of the federal discretionary budget.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 27, 2015 05:34 PM (V+kmg)

125 So at what point does Obama's treasury just authorize themselves to release the money anyway? I mean, what are you gonna do about it?

Posted by: hookedonteledildonics at February 27, 2015 05:35 PM (a1dgx)

126 Why do we need DHS? John Kerry says we have eternal peace.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 27, 2015 05:35 PM (W5DcG)

127 Posted by: Aparagus Tuteme ex Infernis at February 27, 2015 05:31 PM (vEbex)

Newsletter?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 27, 2015 05:35 PM (wVWRM)

128 This defeat comes hours after the DHS will run out of funding authorization, so I guess we'll be having a (very partial) shutdown (limited to nonessential personnel).

Words are insufficient to describe how despondent this does not make me.

Posted by: filbert at February 27, 2015 05:35 PM (h6Mpm)

129

WAIT.

If 3 billion can be taken from the treasury and paid out to insurance companies without any authorization, what's to stop SCOAMF and the Dems from just funding it anyway via edict?


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:35 PM (CMkNk)

130 This probably means the "clean" bill in the Senate will pass...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:36 PM (Bn6aD)

131 So a Russky gets whacked and the thread gets bumped.


So Putin put somebody on the Sergei Kirov plan.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2015 05:36 PM (oKE6c)

132 DHS can get Treasury to hand over $3 billion. They'll give that to anyone - no questions - no paperwork.

Posted by: DamnCat at February 27, 2015 05:36 PM (JSdom)

133 124 Check your math.

National defense is a mandated function and it's the largest single part of the federal discretionary budget.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 27, 2015 05:34 PM (V+kmg)


I was using Kommon Korp. (I am a Kommon Korpseman)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:36 PM (CMkNk)

134 Good, Shutdown the IRS, the FCC, the EPA, and a few more BS alphabet agencies while you are at it.

Posted by: nanny hag at February 27, 2015 05:36 PM (Queum)

135 132 DHS can get Treasury to hand over $3 billion. They'll give that to anyone - no questions - no paperwork.
Posted by: DamnCat at February 27, 2015 05:36 PM (JSdom)


(**raises hand, does Arnold Horshack impression**)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:37 PM (CMkNk)

136 Somewhere in the constitution it says this document is rendered invalid if the president feels really important about something. If the treasury can bribe Obamacare's accomplice corporations with 3b out of thin air, what makes you think they're not writing a new check to "Jeh" right now? It's important and stuff. DHS will vote to deem themselves funded.

Posted by: hookedonteledildonics at February 27, 2015 05:37 PM (a1dgx)

137 You misspelled "85%."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy


In reality, sure. But don't think for a second that's the actual number that would be affected if a shutdown occurs. There will be no change in the operations of any agency unless El JEFe orders a slowdown or Operation Fuck With The Parks again.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2015 05:37 PM (Q/1Jp)

138 Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 27, 2015 05:34 PM (V+kmg)

Discretionary? Why?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 27, 2015 05:37 PM (wVWRM)

139 Remember when Boooosh was President and all the Dhimmis wanted to get rid of Homeland Security? Good times, good times...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:38 PM (Bn6aD)

140
This is more on McConnell than Boehner. McConnell isn't working with Boehner, at all; he's working with reid and obama.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 05:38 PM (hbvPW)

141 National defense is a mandated function and it's the largest single part of the federal discretionary budget.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 27, 2015 05:34 PM (V+kmg)


Yeah, but the non-discrectionary part of the budget makes the DOD budget look like pigeon food

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:38 PM (nzKvP)

142 He had to know the votes weren't there but he called for a vote anyway. Don't trust Him.... Somethings up...

Yeah. This just means he *has* to bring up the Senate "Clean" bill and set the Hastert Rule aside to pass it with Democratic votes. His hands were tied, you tru-cons forced him to.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 27, 2015 05:38 PM (evdj2)

143 134 Good, Shutdown the IRS, the FCC, the EPA, and a few more BS alphabet agencies while you are at it.
Posted by: nanny hag at February 27, 2015 05:36 PM (Queum)


Unfortunately, the people who do the damage remain, though with a deferred salary.

Too bad.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:38 PM (CMkNk)

144 FCC says N.Neutering will have "drastic" tax implications"

Yeah, about that.

Surprise, surprise, surprise...

Posted by: anon a mouse at February 27, 2015 05:38 PM (/jpU8)

145 Discretionary? Why?
Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 27, 2015 05:37 PM (wVWRM)

Welfare, Medicare, Medicaid---that shit is mandated

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:38 PM (nzKvP)

146
While we're at it SHUT DOWN obama's FCC.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 05:39 PM (hbvPW)

147
And Senate Democrats pounce. Schumer and Durbin now calling on Boehner to pass Senate's clean DHS bill to avoid shutdown in 6.5 hrs




Dog-pile on the Boehner! Dog-pile on the Boehner!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 05:39 PM (kdS6q)

148 125
So at what point does Obama's treasury just authorize themselves to
release the money anyway? I mean, what are you gonna do about it?

Posted by: hookedonteledildonics at February 27, 2015 05:35 PM (a1dgx)

They are already doing that. From the morning thread:

807
The treasury department is stonewalling congress over making $3B worth of unauthorized Obamacare payments.


http://washex.am/182e0kq

Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2015 07:28 AM (wlDny)

Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2015 05:39 PM (wlDny)

149 Now, while 'nonessential' probably means that the diversity counselors still get paid, you can bet that 'SHUTDOWN OMGOMGOMG' means that someone's already telling the airport security checkpoints to make life miserable ASAP.

Posted by: JEM at February 27, 2015 05:40 PM (o+SC1)

150 And Senate Democrats pounce. Schumer and Durbin now calling on Boehner to pass Senate's clean DHS bill to avoid shutdown in 6.5 hrs


Probably the plan all the time...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:40 PM (Bn6aD)

151 Why are we funding a department that does nothing? Hand these fcuking clowns pink slips and be done with it already.

Posted by: Fritz at February 27, 2015 05:40 PM (UzPAd)

152 >>This is more on McConnell than Boehner. McConnell isn't working with Boehner, at all; he's working with reid and obama.

All McConnell had to do was say he was following Reid's precedent and abolishing the filibuster and they could have passed the House bill. Obama would have vetoed it but at least they could have made a fight.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 27, 2015 05:40 PM (g1DWB)

153 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:38 PM (nzKvP)

Heh.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 27, 2015 05:40 PM (wVWRM)

154 THEY'RE IN ON IT.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 27, 2015 05:40 PM (evdj2)

155
Cantor Effect: Brat voted no on DHS. And brought 4 other Va Rs with him - Forbes, Hurt, Griffith, Wittman. All usually reliable for Boehner.



MmmmmmMmmmmm.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 05:41 PM (kdS6q)

156 Any good news is welcome after this week.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 27, 2015 05:41 PM (LA7Cm)

157 Oh and sorry if has been mentioned earlier, work's a beast today... but Obama did a tribute to Nimoy and of course made it all about him apparently..talked about making the V to Nimoy when he met him. He just can't help himself, can he?

Posted by: LizLem at February 27, 2015 05:41 PM (yRwC8)

158 yeah, we done fell for it. now we'll surely lose the 2014 midterms and the 2015 mini mid terms.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at February 27, 2015 05:41 PM (wlWrh)

159
So let's see:

Squashing the 1st Amendment
Damaging the 2nd Amendment
Destroying our national identity and culture
Raiding the treasury
Ruling by edict and whim

I'd say that Tree of Liberty is absolutely parched by now, of not dead.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:41 PM (CMkNk)

160 I think I'm going to go drink myself into oblivion...

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2015 05:41 PM (2Ojst)

161 O/T: Listening to Rush from today. He has a caller named Hector on right now calling him a liar re: Net Neutrality.

Looks like our little maggot is multi-tasking.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at February 27, 2015 05:41 PM (dg6oj)

162 Remember all those months and years we were told, "just wait until we have the Senate and the House"?

Boehner and McConnell are irrelevant. In fact, our whole system of government is -- it's all just show now. This is Obama's world, and he does what he wants. No one can stop him. No one is really even trying.

Posted by: rrpjr at February 27, 2015 05:42 PM (s/yC1)

163 The truth is if they shut DHS down, not to many people would notice

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:42 PM (nzKvP)

164 *Steps up on soapbox with bullhorn*

THERE SHOULD BE NO NON ESSENTIAL PERSONNEL IN GOVERNMENT.

Thank you

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 27, 2015 05:42 PM (KFdZd)

165
Idiot and indicted Rick Perry is out there today demanding we go balls deep in a war with ISIS.

ISIS??

ISIS didn't do to me and my country this week what obama, reid, jarret, holder, and McConnell did.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 05:42 PM (hbvPW)

166
Also, Scalise doing a great job as whip. Good thing Boehner went to the wall to keep him on the team.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 05:42 PM (kdS6q)

167 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 05:41 PM (kdS6q)

Linky for the votes?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 27, 2015 05:42 PM (wVWRM)

168 I kid...but on a seriously tip...what if obama fucked up and this puts him a bad spot?

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at February 27, 2015 05:42 PM (wlWrh)

169 I think I'm going to go drink myself into oblivion...

If they are gonna pass the "clean" bill, I almost wish they had voted for the short term... Somehow I think this was the plan all along...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:43 PM (Bn6aD)

170 165 ISIS didn't do to me and my country this week what obama, reid, jarret, holder, and McConnell did.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 05:42 PM (hbvPW)


A-fucking-MEN to that.

We should go to war with the traitors in our midst.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:43 PM (CMkNk)

171 Mitch the Bitch is very upset with Boner...

Posted by: tbd at February 27, 2015 05:43 PM (csPpp)

172 what's to stop SCOAMF and the Dems from just funding it anyway via edict?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton


Nothing really. Which is what makes the GOPs inability to start repealing and destroying agencies so f'in maddening.

The GOP should be tearing up the obscene mountains of agency laws not playing penny-ante games.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2015 05:43 PM (Q/1Jp)

173 Boehner tried to do this with only Republican votes; I guess Democrats were told not to vote for it.

... so this was a bipartisan rejection

Posted by: Harry Reid's investor firend at February 27, 2015 05:43 PM (e8kgV)

174 A site search on ace.mu.nu for the phrase 'get this' returns, get this, 9620 hits. Now it should be 9622. (Heisenberg uncertainty principle)

Posted by: Kanye East at February 27, 2015 05:44 PM (gwDMH)

175
Linky for the votes?
Posted by: Golfman



That was from twitter. It can take days for House votes to go up on their website.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 05:44 PM (kdS6q)

176 _Now if Boneheader would lead them to defund DHS he would actually be a leader.



Posted by: Ralph at February 27, 2015 05:44 PM (TiOn5)

177 *Steps up on soapbox with bullhorn*

THERE SHOULD BE NO NON ESSENTIAL PERSONNEL IN GOVERNMENT.

Thank you
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 27, 2015 05:42 PM (KFdZd)


Bite your tongue, sir. Or shall I call you "Scott Walker?"

Tomorrow's Headline: Scott Walker Admits All Government Employees Are Essential!!1111!!!1eleventy!!!

Posted by: filbert at February 27, 2015 05:44 PM (h6Mpm)

178 161 O/T: Listening to Rush from today. He has a caller named Hector on right now calling him a liar re: Net Neutrality.

Looks like our little maggot is multi-tasking.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at February 27, 2015 05:41 PM (dg6oj)


Heard it and about fell out of my chair laughing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:44 PM (CMkNk)

179 I vote we fundamentally transform Central America.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 27, 2015 05:44 PM (Gcu5R)

180 AMong the limited options that Boner and company left us, this was the best outcome we could have hoped for.

If this thing passes, even for only three weeks, the repubs will have agreed to the constitutionality of the executive amnesty. The case would go down the drain and BHO would get the Circuit Court of Appeals to overturn the stay.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at February 27, 2015 05:44 PM (kfoLf)

181 I thought this was a Military blog?

Posted by: HugoStiglitz at February 27, 2015 05:45 PM (Moh0M)

182 Expenditures are classified as mandatory, with payments required by specific laws,

Over the past 40 years, mandatory spending for programs such as Medicare and Social Security has grown as a share of the budget and relative to GDP, while other discretionary categories have declined

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:45 PM (nzKvP)

183 168 I kid...but on a seriously tip...what if obama fucked up and this puts him a bad spot?


Question, answer:
Breaking news at 9: we have reports that meanie racist republicans are putting obama in a bad spot because they don't know what a vergina is and want to ban evolution

Posted by: hookedonteledildonics at February 27, 2015 05:45 PM (a1dgx)

184 My little polonium.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 27, 2015 05:45 PM (W5DcG)

185 *hic*

Posted by: John Boehner at February 27, 2015 05:45 PM (sQzB6)

186
THEY'RE IN ON IT.

This might sound crazy but I'm starting to wonder if that Federal judge in Texas isn't in on the scam, too, issuing that Decision to give Republicans cover to reneg on their DHS non-funding vote.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 05:45 PM (hbvPW)

187 So if the DHS funding bill was passed in the senate and sent to the house for reconciliation, but was returned by the House with something different, then what do they do? I guess the Senate has to vote up or down?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 27, 2015 05:45 PM (60Vyp)

188 The GOP should be tearing up the obscene mountains of agency laws zeroing out the budgets of agencies not playing penny-ante games.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2015 05:43 PM (Q/1Jp)


Suggested edit of your comment.

Posted by: filbert at February 27, 2015 05:45 PM (h6Mpm)

189 But Master Obama promised that if we pass a clean bill he'd use lube. He pinky swore.

Posted by: Mitch McCockless in leather gimp suit at February 27, 2015 05:46 PM (GuwT9)

190 The case would go down the drain and BHO would get the Circuit Court of Appeals to overturn the stay.


Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at February 27, 2015 05:44 PM (kfoLf)

Why does he need to do that. He is ignoring the stay anyway.

Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2015 05:46 PM (wlDny)

191 186
THEY'RE IN ON IT.

This might sound crazy but I'm starting to wonder if that Federal judge in Texas isn't in on the scam, too, issuing that Decision to give Republicans cover to reneg on their DHS non-funding vote.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 05:45 PM (hbvPW)



I've seen so much shit the past 6 years that this doesn't sound so farfetched.

I hope not. But still . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:46 PM (CMkNk)

192 So shutdown means a vacation and back-pay. Amirite?

Posted by: Non essential personel at February 27, 2015 05:46 PM (JgQLj)

193 To bad the pilots and crew for Air Force One are not paid by DHS

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:46 PM (nzKvP)

194 I guess the Senate has to vote up or down?

In the end, they both have to pass the exact same text. Either by compromise, or by one house adopting the other's language.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 27, 2015 05:46 PM (evdj2)

195 "165
Idiot and indicted Rick Perry is out there today demanding we go balls deep in a war with ISIS. "

"Idiot and indicted" are you a fucking lib troll? You know what he was indicted for, right? I know you hate the man, but that is a bunch of bullshit and you know it.

Posted by: Lauren at February 27, 2015 05:47 PM (MYCIw)

196 Why are we funding a department that does nothing? Hand these fcuking clowns pink slips and be done with it already.

Hey, those blue gloves won't probe your colon by themselves...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at February 27, 2015 05:47 PM (0HooB)

197 So shutdown means a vacation and back-pay. Amirite?
Posted by: Non essential personel at February 27, 2015 05:46 PM (JgQLj)


Always has in the past

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:47 PM (nzKvP)

198 193 To bad the pilots and crew for Air Force One are not paid by DHS
Are you kidding? They're essential! Obama has to get to His golf course!

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:47 PM (Bn6aD)

199
a bunch of Robert The Bruces, they are

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 05:47 PM (hbvPW)

200
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:43 PM (CMkNk)

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.

Posted by: Marcus Tullius Cicero at February 27, 2015 05:48 PM (wVWRM)

201 "ISIS didn't do to me and my country this week what obama, reid, jarret, holder, and McConnell did.
Posted by: Soothsayer"

OK. Maybe they'll do it next week, or the week after that.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at February 27, 2015 05:48 PM (HFSaY)

202 Someone should photo shop The Statue of Liberty chucking our government the middle finger.

Posted by: nanny hag at February 27, 2015 05:49 PM (Queum)

203
That's all I see is that scene from Braveheart when Wallace is captured and the man on the horse with the English takes off his helmet and it's Robert The Bruce.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 05:49 PM (hbvPW)

204 ISIS didn't do to me and my country this week what obama, reid, jarret, holder, and McConnell did.
Posted by: Soothsayer"

OK. Maybe they'll do it next week, or the week after that.
Posted by: Noam Sayen

If you can avoid being killed, raped, or maimed by an illegal alien first.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at February 27, 2015 05:50 PM (GuwT9)

205 <i>a bunch of Robert The Bruces, they arePosted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 05:47 PM (hbvPW)</i>Actually, that's kind of an insult to Robert the Bruce.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 27, 2015 05:50 PM (OiH3z)

206 If you can avoid being killed, raped, or maimed by an illegal alien first.

Americans in waiting! Didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:50 PM (Bn6aD)

207 Boeher Attempts to Capitulate to Reid and Obama; Fails


A couple more failures like this will send us on the right track, methinks.

Fail faster!

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at February 27, 2015 05:51 PM (0NdlF)

208 I fail to see this as a bad thing. Even the spinniest of spinmeisters can't help but say "Republicans tried to fund DHS, but Democrats refused to play."

I know, I know.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 27, 2015 05:51 PM (VAsIq)

209 The GOP should be tearing up the obscene mountains of agency laws zeroing out the budgets of agencies not playing penny-ante games.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
Suggested edit of your comment.

Posted by: filbert a


No.

Money is fungible even more so with the Federal government. If you think that El JEFe and co wouldn't just fund them through other means, buddy, I have a Gaza Bridge to sell you.

Further, if Obama were to go to court to reverse any GOP funding penalties, he'd probably win.

The basis of the agencies that overstepped their bounds should have their legal basis for existence shredded.

The key is that if any agency doesn't have the legislative basis for existence they wouldn't have any standing in court.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2015 05:52 PM (Q/1Jp)

210 Posted by: toby928(C) at February 27, 2015 05:46 PM

Seems like I read somewhere that if the House amended the senate version of the bill and sent it back, the senate had to vote on it and all it would take was 51 to pass it because the Pederast did away with the filibuster.

Maybe the Tea Party is putting the screws to Mitch the Bitch and the Douche L'Orange...thats why the Pederast and the dynamic duo are so pissy.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 27, 2015 05:52 PM (60Vyp)

211 _I vote we fundamentally transform the USA (wait for it) 2, 3, 4, .... Into a
--- Representative Republic!

Posted by: Ralph at February 27, 2015 05:52 PM (TiOn5)

212 208 I fail to see this as a bad thing. Even the spinniest of spinmeisters can't help but say "Republicans tried to fund DHS, but Democrats refused to play."

In a sane World...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 05:52 PM (Bn6aD)

213 208 I fail to see this as a bad thing. Even the spinniest of spinmeisters can't help but say "Republicans tried to fund DHS, but Democrats refused to play."

I know, I know.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 27, 2015 05:51 PM (VAsIq)


I know you know. But still.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:53 PM (CMkNk)

214 Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 27, 2015 05:50 PM (OiH3z)

Heh. He did eventually come around.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 27, 2015 05:53 PM (wVWRM)

215 Finally we have reached the point where the House has two Democrat Leaders representing both the Majority and Minority Caucuses.

Take a bow, GOPe. Masterful.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 27, 2015 05:53 PM (1CroS)

216 162 Remember all those months and years we were told, "just wait until we have the Senate and the House"?

Boehner and McConnell are irrelevant. In fact, our whole system of government is -- it's all just show now. This is Obama's world, and he does what he wants. No one can stop him. No one is really even trying.

---------
Because.... Skin color.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at February 27, 2015 05:53 PM (U0Qhv)

217 Would like to know how my congressman voted is there a link that gives you a rundown on how vote how?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2015 05:53 PM (0FSuD)

218 Ay plegli ianectu flaggen, tupep like for stahn.

Posted by: Cloud William at February 27, 2015 05:54 PM (zqzYV)

219 This could be a brilliant strategy by Boehner and McConnell. You see if they just...

Can't do it.

*Crams fistfull of Vicodin in maw, washes down with bourbon*

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 27, 2015 05:54 PM (KFdZd)

220 Look Bottom line: A DHS shutdown will NOT effect the NJ/NY meet-up this Friday so why should I care?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:54 PM (nzKvP)

221 My rep voted no!

Fcukin A!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2015 05:54 PM (Zu3d9)

222 Therefore, if it were possible that you could have just men to be your kings, who would establish the laws of God, and judge this people according to his commandments...then it would be expedient that ye should always have kings to rule over you.

Now I say unto you, that because all men are not just it is not expedient that ye should have a king or kings to rule over you.

Therefore, choose you by the voice of this people, judges, that ye may be judged according to the laws which have been given you by our fathers, which are correct, and which were given them by the hand of the Lord.

Now it is not common that the voice of the people desireth anything contrary to that which is right; but it is common for the lesser part of the people to desire that which is not right; therefore this shall ye observe and make it your law--to do your business by the voice of the people.

And if the time comes that the voice of the people doth choose iniquity, then is the time that the judgments of God will come upon you; yea, then is the time he will visit you with great destruction....

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 27, 2015 05:54 PM (VAsIq)

223 Sorry, guys, but DHS doesn't actually do anything anyway. Look at the airport "security" theater, the borders that are completely porous, illegal aliens breaking laws, murdering and raping their way across the U.S. and heaven only knows how many sleeper cells from ISIS and all the other acronym heavy terrorist orgs.

Defund 'em. Who cares?

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 27, 2015 05:55 PM (+YMhA)

224 220 Look Bottom line: A DHS shutdown will NOT effect the NJ/NY meet-up this Friday so why should I care?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:54 PM (nzKvP)



But, but, but . . . I'm nonessential!!!!!!


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:55 PM (CMkNk)

225 If Boehner had half a brain he would fall through his ass and choak himself to death.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 27, 2015 05:55 PM (FMbng)

226 Gingrich for SOTH - again!!

Posted by: VA MK Z at February 27, 2015 05:55 PM (NbkLI)

227
Gotta start dinner.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2015 05:55 PM (CMkNk)

228 Look at these three words written larger than the rest, with a special pride never written before, or since, tall words proudly saying, "We the People". That which you call Ee'd Plebnista, was not written for the chiefs of kings, or the warriors or the rich or the powerful, but for ALL the people! Down the centuries, you have slurred the meaning of the words, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty, to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution".

Posted by: Captain James T. Kirk at February 27, 2015 05:55 PM (ZdA3v)

229 Check out The Drudge Report. An opposition leader to Putin was shot dead in front of The Kremlin. Thugs gonna thug.

Posted by: nanny hag at February 27, 2015 05:56 PM (Queum)

230 My rep voted no!

Fcukin A!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2015 05:54 PM (Zu3d9)

So my Rep also then

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:56 PM (nzKvP)

231 The key is that if any agency doesn't have the legislative basis for existence they wouldn't have any standing in court.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 27, 2015 05:52 PM (Q/1Jp)


We could compromise?

De-authorize them, AND de-fund them.

Posted by: filbert at February 27, 2015 05:56 PM (h6Mpm)

232 Would anyone put it past Obama to orchestrate a terrorist attack during the DHS shut down?

He damn sure would politicize the fuck out of one if it happened.

Posted by: Lauren at February 27, 2015 05:57 PM (MYCIw)

233 >>An opposition leader to Putin was shot dead in front of The Kremlin.

Not to worry. I'm having the usual suspects rounded up now.

Posted by: Vlad at February 27, 2015 05:57 PM (sQzB6)

234
The other day, and probably repeatedly, CNN had on a TSA employee, a latino, in uniform, to discuss his feelings on the pending shutdown and how he'll cope with not being paid...on payday.

Disgusting. Good politics, though. That's how you do it.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 05:57 PM (hbvPW)

235 >>
So shutdown means a vacation and back-pay. Amirite?

EVERY SINGLE TIME. And no, my caps lock key ain't broken.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 27, 2015 05:58 PM (R9cXO)

236 An opposition leader to Putin was shot dead in front of The Kremlin.

----

What's a Kremlin lol? Is that, like, a gremlin with a white hood?

Posted by: LIV at February 27, 2015 05:58 PM (VAsIq)

237 Democrats did not vote for the short term funding and it's the fault of 51 republicans who are holding national security hostage to their extremist hate of immigrants.

The democrats are blameless in this, and it's all Bohener's fault for not reaching out to the democrats and trying to get twenty four votes.

/all week end, to infinity and beyond.

Posted by: Economics Loo at February 27, 2015 05:58 PM (3recZ)

238 230
My rep voted no!



Fcukin A!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2015 05:54 PM (Zu3d9)



So my Rep also then

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:56 PM (nzKvP)

Where can you find the votes?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2015 05:58 PM (0FSuD)

239 I'm to the point where I almost think I would trade a GUARANTEED loss of the Congress next cycle for a shut down DHS.

Just to watch an agency like that get shut down and just stick a middle finger at all the polls that say how badly we're going to lose, etc.

Posted by: McAdams at February 27, 2015 06:00 PM (mgK0U)

240 So my Rep also then

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:56 PM (nzKvP)

Yup.

Boring old Scott Garrett, who is solidly conservative in the midst of the lunacy of Northern NJ.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2015 06:00 PM (Zu3d9)

241 Good, its shut down, the shut down will have no effect. The republicans will get the "blame" and a Repub will win the white house, louse-house and senate. Whats the problem?

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 27, 2015 06:00 PM (TIgJq)

242 *all* of DHS is non-essential

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 27, 2015 06:00 PM (lsWof)

243 Final vote for HR 240.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll105.xml

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2015 06:01 PM (Zu3d9)

244 Boring old Scott Garrett, who is solidly conservative in the midst of the lunacy of Northern NJ.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2015 06:00 PM (Zu3d9)

They vilified him in the past Election as a Tea Party guy.. That probably won him the election. Actually he rolled pretty easily to victory. He is a good guy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 06:01 PM (nzKvP)

245 Fighting over an immigration order that has already been found illegal in the courts is no too bright.




Circle firing squad.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2015 06:01 PM (0FSuD)

246 Let's replace DHS with these Folgers crystals and see if anyone notices.

Posted by: Economics Loo at February 27, 2015 06:01 PM (3recZ)

247 I'm old enough that I can remember that Walter Cronkite would remove his horned-rim glasses and just shake his head sadly and the people across the nation would nod in agreement. The duplicitous old hypocrite would have accepted the 2nd spot on the ticket had he but known the Montana leftist was actively considering it. But, you're right, that was then and now is now and Brian Williams, the martyr nailed to the cross of fabulism ... wait, where was I?

Posted by: Banjo at February 27, 2015 06:02 PM (IMztf)

248 The problem with not funding DHS-as I've mentioned before-is if it's not funded and a Terrorist attack occurs-the Democrats will run with it. In fact, som of them might welcome an attack so they and the media has another opportunity to blame Republicans.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 27, 2015 06:02 PM (DXzRD)

249 We have a 'government shutdown' every month, on those government holidays.
And the world doesn't stop.

I like government shutdowns. The Dems hate them because it always illustrates how many 'non-essential personnel' there are.

Posted by: wheatie at February 27, 2015 06:02 PM (XIzXB)

250 Fighting over an immigration order that has already been found illegal in the courts is no too bright.


No that's wrong in so many ways. It was just an injunction. NO final ruling and no guarantee that it will ever be found illegal. You fight this illegal action on ALL fronts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 06:03 PM (nzKvP)

251 Boring old Scott Garrett, who is solidly conservative in the midst of the lunacy of Northern NJ.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2015 06:00 PM (Zu3d9)

They vilified him in the past Election as a Tea Party guy.. That probably won him the election. Actually he rolled pretty easily to victory. He is a good guy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 06:01 PM (nzKvP)


Other than the few blue puckering assholes they call cities (yes Hoboken too), Jersey is pretty red.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 27, 2015 06:03 PM (FMbng)

252 My rep voted Nay as well.

Posted by: Lauren at February 27, 2015 06:03 PM (MYCIw)

253 Circle firing squad.

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I'm not falling for that one again!

Posted by: Polish Executioner at February 27, 2015 06:03 PM (VAsIq)

254 And I fcuked it up. The bastard voted with Boehner.

Sorry about that.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll104.xml

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2015 06:03 PM (Zu3d9)

255
Fighting over an immigration order that has already been found illegal in the courts is no too bright.


That decision will be overturned about two minutes after the Republicans in the House finally give up and give obama what he wants.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 06:03 PM (hbvPW)

256 Let's replace DHS with these Folgers crystals and see if anyone notices.
Posted by: Economics Loo

Why...it's so rich and flavorful. I had no idea it wasn't a hand on my groin.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at February 27, 2015 06:03 PM (GuwT9)

257
What color does my a-hole taste?

Posted by: GOP Conservatives in Da House at February 27, 2015 06:03 PM (ODxAs)

258 @243

Thanks. Damn looks like all the NC Congressmen voted NO.



Even McHenry, who is fourth in the leadership. This does not forebode well for Boner.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2015 06:04 PM (0FSuD)

259 I bet there are going to be some cranky TSA fondlers waiting for the CPAC folks travelling home on Sunday.

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2015 06:04 PM (ztOda)

260 My rep voted no, tho I am skeptical of the reasons. I no longer trust the a**hole.

Posted by: Infidel at February 27, 2015 06:04 PM (Z1SI2)

261 Other than the few blue puckering assholes they call cities (yes Hoboken too), Jersey is pretty red.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 27, 2015 06:03 PM (FMbng)

Yeah but those cities are a sucking black holes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 06:04 PM (nzKvP)

262 Hahaha! Mr. Perma-tan goes down!!! Now to get rid of The Turtle.

Posted by: jmel at February 27, 2015 06:04 PM (cfFqn)

263 248 The problem with not funding DHS-as I've mentioned before-is if it's not funded and a Terrorist attack occurs-the Democrats will run with it. In fact, som of them might welcome an attack so they and the media has another opportunity to blame Republicans.

I'm sure they'd try.. Somehow I don't think the Janitorial service has much to do with homeland security... Those are some of the "non-essentials."

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 06:04 PM (Bn6aD)

264 Would anyone put it past Obama to orchestrate a terrorist attack during the DHS shut down?

Well, I don't think he'd orchestra it. I think he would nod in agreement to it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 27, 2015 06:04 PM (DXzRD)

265 Look Bottom line: A DHS shutdown will NOT effect the NJ/NY meet-up this Friday so why should I care?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:54 PM (nzKvP)


Wait wait wait, the meetup is tonight?!

Posted by: LizLem at February 27, 2015 06:04 PM (yRwC8)

266 My rep (Mica) voted NO

(smiling)

Posted by: weew at February 27, 2015 06:05 PM (0tmLY)

267 Non-essential = all the airport granny gropers, and Meh Johnson, at a minimum.

Posted by: the 52% at February 27, 2015 06:05 PM (+kznc)

268 I looked at the folowing motion instead of the substantive one.

Shit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2015 06:05 PM (Zu3d9)

269 @254

Well, fcuk yes you did. Now all the NC guys are showing aye.


Fcuk.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2015 06:05 PM (0FSuD)

270 My rep voted "present."

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at February 27, 2015 06:05 PM (Gcu5R)

271 Wait wait wait, the meetup is tonight?!
Posted by: LizLem at February 27, 2015 06:04 PM (yRwC

Yeah as soon as I wrote that I realized that is might confuse people. YES run down there...no I meant next week.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 06:05 PM (nzKvP)

272 National Review pats Jebbie on the head and lauds Paul.
What will they say about Rick and Ted?

They should say, Mr. President and Mr. Vice President.
That's what they should say.


Posted by: Ralph at February 27, 2015 06:05 PM (TiOn5)

273 Yeah, but the non-discrectionary part of the budget makes the DOD budget look like pigeon food

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 05:38 PM (nzKvP)


This.

Few people are aware of that fact. The considerable majority of the budget goes on mandatory entitlement spending (thanks, Democrats!) Only a small fraction is discretionary, and therefore can be cut. DoD tops the list of discretionary items, although defense was a Constitutionally mandated function of the Federal government, back when we actually gave a shit what the Constitution said.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 27, 2015 06:05 PM (oKE6c)

274 Update: This defeat comes hours after the DHS will run out of funding authorization, so I guess we'll be having a (very partial) shutdown.....


Do you mean hours BEFORE the DHS runs out of funding?

Posted by: Tami at February 27, 2015 06:05 PM (v0/PR)

275 My rep voted "present."

I don't have a rep...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 06:06 PM (Bn6aD)

276 Eventually, everybody has to wear the red uniform

Posted by: Leonard Nimoy at February 27, 2015 06:06 PM (e8kgV)

277 Frankly, I don't believe that DHS is anything but a jobs program for Ivy Leaguers that can't do any thing constructive. Just shut it all down permanently and put the money in the military.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 27, 2015 06:06 PM (MMC8r)

278 Can't President High Horse just do an EO to fund it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 27, 2015 06:07 PM (DXzRD)

279 Obama will exceed all requirements of terrorist action to assure that Americanx are kilt during the shutfown.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at February 27, 2015 06:07 PM (53CCM)

280 Posted by: LizLem at February 27, 2015 06:04 PM (yRwC

It's next week.

nynjmeet at optimum dot net for details.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2015 06:07 PM (Zu3d9)

281 And it is already being framed so as to blame the Republicans for a government shutdown and frighten and enrage every LIV.

Posted by: RM at February 27, 2015 06:07 PM (fRppw)

282 although defense was a Constitutionally mandated function of the Federal government, back when we actually gave a shit what the Constitution said.
Posted by: Jay Guevara

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Dude, that thing's like a hundred years old!

Posted by: It's not worth remembering or looking up this asshole's name at February 27, 2015 06:07 PM (VAsIq)

283
Wait, you are telling us that welfare is mandatory spending and National Security is discretionary?

Well, that explains a lot.

Posted by: Economics Loo at February 27, 2015 06:08 PM (3recZ)

284 Which of the drones at DHS are considered "non-essential?" I still get the obligatory patdown right?

Posted by: Every hot chick with a departure today at February 27, 2015 06:08 PM (Q9qpj)

285 Bow tie boy harrumphing on Faux News.
Suck it, GOPE loser.

Posted by: the 52% at February 27, 2015 06:08 PM (+kznc)

286 DHS runs out of money at midnight according to NY Slime.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2015 06:08 PM (0FSuD)

287 All five of our OK reps voted no.
Good.

Posted by: wheatie at February 27, 2015 06:08 PM (XIzXB)

288 Yeah as soon as I wrote that I realized that is might confuse people. YES run down there...no I meant next week.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 06:05 PM (nzKvP)

LOL, phew! Will let sis know ASAP and email CBD for deets. For some reason she liked you guys, you did not do a good enough job of scaring her away. Hopefully she can make it.

Posted by: LizLem at February 27, 2015 06:08 PM (yRwC8)

289 281 And it is already being framed so as to blame the Republicans for a government shutdown and frighten and enrage every LIV.

Except the Dems voted against it...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 06:08 PM (Bn6aD)

290
Yeas: Love

Gosh, am I ever surprised.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 06:08 PM (kdS6q)

291 My rep voted "present."

I don't have a rep...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna
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Me, neither....

Posted by: Dead Nationwide Commercial Kid at February 27, 2015 06:08 PM (VAsIq)

292 For some reason she liked you guys, you did not do a good enough job of scaring her away. Hopefully she can make it.
Posted by: LizLem at February 27, 2015 06:08 PM (yRwC

Well I'll try harder this time, but that maybe you should up the 5 spot you gave me?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 06:09 PM (nzKvP)

293 I don't have a rep...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna

NorCal Bay area...
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Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 27, 2015 06:09 PM (Bn6aD)

294 Yeah but those cities are a sucking black holes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 06:04 PM (nzKvP)


Oh yes they are. They make Sodom and Gamorrah look like Disney world.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 27, 2015 06:09 PM (FMbng)

295 Fenelon, all the gun-slingers have to report for duty. This only effects the admin side. I could argue that a streamlined agency, with all the extra management strap-hangers at home, is BETTER equipped to deal with an attack.

It's the old "what happens when the Russians take out the Pentagon" argument ...

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2015 06:10 PM (ztOda)

296
Oooo - Boeher voted yea. Doesn't the Speaker usually not vote? He must have been desperate.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 06:10 PM (kdS6q)

297 278 Can't President High Horse just do an EO to fund it?

Yes. ...Clinton did, every time he shut down the government and blamed it on the R's.

Posted by: wheatie at February 27, 2015 06:10 PM (XIzXB)

298 218
Ay plegli ianectu flaggen, tupep like for stahn.

That's what *she* said.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 27, 2015 06:10 PM (o78gS)

299 Just put Impeachment back on the fucking table.

Posted by: Garrett at February 27, 2015 06:11 PM (B7PYR)

300 But did he make his kissy face? The kissy face never fails.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 27, 2015 06:11 PM (sH832)

301

Yea: McMorris Rodgers

Alar Annie up to her usual tricks.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 06:11 PM (kdS6q)

302 My rep voted Nay as well.

Wow, so did mine.

This is the idiot that wants to put toll booths on the local Interstate through downtown here.

Color me surprised.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at February 27, 2015 06:12 PM (0HooB)

303 Frankly, I don't believe that DHS is anything but a
jobs program for Ivy Leaguers that can't do any thing constructive.
Just shut it all down permanently and put the money in the military.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 27, 2015 06:06 PM


I figured DHS for a scam when Dubya first set it up, particularly when he put that doofus Zombie John Ashcroft in charge. It has only gotten worse since Choom Boy took over.

The country already had agencies and services whose job is to keep us secure. This was just a boondoggle, and should be permanently shut down.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2015 06:13 PM (P8YHq)

304 Wait...my TEA PARTY rep voted for it!?


WTF Jason Smith?!


I give up...there's something in the water in DC.


Nuke it....only way to be sure.

Posted by: Tami at February 27, 2015 06:13 PM (v0/PR)

305 >>Ay plegli ianectu flaggen, tupep like for stahn.



Good to see Marlee Matlin is no longer trapped in the Spam Filter.

Posted by: Garrett at February 27, 2015 06:13 PM (B7PYR)

306
So an R proposed or nominated Chris Kyle for the Medal of Honor. If you think obama will EVER make that happen...

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 06:13 PM (hbvPW)

307 DHS Secretary Cant Cite Any Law Authorizing Obama To Give Illegal Aliens Social Security Numbers

Weasel Zippers

Yeah funding that agency is a good idea?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 06:13 PM (nzKvP)

308
1 Boehner needs to step down. He's a failure.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 27, 2015 05:20 PM (OiH3z)


And resign from Congress too. I want a Representative, not at Facilitator.

Posted by: buzzion at February 27, 2015 06:14 PM (zt+N6)

309 And now we will see lefties openly wishing for a terror attack that they can then blame on Rebublicans.

Posted by: weew at February 27, 2015 06:14 PM (0tmLY)

310
when he put that doofus Zombie John Ashcroft in charge

You mean that asshole Tom Ridge. Ashcroft is a good man, as far as politicians go.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 06:14 PM (hbvPW)

311 >>Do you mean hours BEFORE the DHS runs out of funding?

Shhh.

He's rolling.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 27, 2015 06:15 PM (g1DWB)

312 Mia Love voted no.

McSally voted yes? ...That is surprising.

Posted by: wheatie at February 27, 2015 06:15 PM (XIzXB)

313 Just put Impeachment back on the fucking table.

Can't do that, black people might not vote for us.

Posted by: GOP braintrust at February 27, 2015 06:15 PM (A6vWB)

314 So an R proposed or nominated Chris Kyle for the Medal of Honor. If you think obama will EVER make that happen...
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 06:13 PM (hbvPW)

It's a bad bad bad idea. The MOH is NOT a lifetime achievement award or "Career" Award. It is for a SPECIFIC Achievement not an after thought.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 06:15 PM (nzKvP)

315 Wow, Faux News humping Jeb Bush for all they are worth tonight. Fuck them.

Posted by: the 52% at February 27, 2015 06:15 PM (+kznc)

316 You mean that asshole Tom Ridge. Ashcroft is a good man, as far as politicians go.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 06:14 PM


You're right. My mistake.

Just goes to show ya how forgettable Tom Ridge really is.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2015 06:16 PM (P8YHq)

317

Yeah the twin assholes Tom Ridge and Michael Chertoff, both supposedly R's, flanked obama's DHS sec yesterday and told Congressional memebers how awful it would be if they don't fund obama's agency.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 06:16 PM (hbvPW)

318 And now we will see lefties openly wishing for a terror attack that they can then blame on Rebublicans.

These days, seeing so much of the shit actually happen that, had I mentioned it, would've gotten me laughed out of the bar just a few scant years ago, I wouldn't doubt that some far-left schizoids have that gamed out.

#WASTF

I don't put anything past our enemies anymore.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at February 27, 2015 06:17 PM (0HooB)

319 The End of the World

6 Hours, 43 Minutes, 6 Seconds

Posted by: CNN at February 27, 2015 06:17 PM (oFCZn)

320 Ex-KGB head Putin couldn't have possibly known in advance of Nemstov's unfortunate accident, could he?

Posted by: Old Blue at February 27, 2015 06:17 PM (AxABj)

321
Mia Love voted no.
Posted by: wheatie




Official roll call says she voted aye.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 06:17 PM (kdS6q)

322 Can't do that, black people might not vote for us. Posted by: GOP braintrust at February 27, 2015 06:15 PM

That's especially crucial now, when they're that close to voting Republican if only the Rs weren't so friggin' liberal!

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2015 06:17 PM (P8YHq)

323 Understand what it means to send home "non-essential personnel" - it means the agency is purely on life support. It EXISTS, for now, to be re-activated, re-formed or killed -- but it's not doing ANYTHING.

And by ANYTHING, that covers not just the stuff conservatives don't want Obama doing that's NEW, but also any and all stuff that conservatives actually LIKE about the DHS, that, after all, was created by a unified Republican Congress under a Republican president. To be clear: it can't even do what conservatives has an important contribution in setting it up to do.

Look at what a good half or more of the No-voting representatives on the GOP side are saying about this: effectively, that they're hoist on leadership's petard. That they've been good loyal obedient conservatives in happily following Boehner's and McConnell's apparent and very public joint determination to force down Obama on this issue, and now, NOW, McConnell has turned into Chamberlain leading all but 3 in the Senate GOP Caucus into cheering as he holds the paper aloft - and Boehner asked they follow suit.

How in FUCK does a conservative congressman who's been telling his constituents now for months that he's made a one hundred per cent non-negotiable non-returnable not-open-to-discussion-or-compromise commitment to killing Obama's new policy orders to the DHS that, well, things have changed WHEN NOTHING HAS CHANGED and EVERYONE KNOWS IT, and expect to survive being primaried?

What makes it worse is that high informational voters, of the sort the GOP depend on to win elections, have now seen that Congressional Republicans under current leadership is EITHER for: A. pulling down its own pants, lubing itself up, and pointing out exactly where Obama can put it to them, or B. can't pull fully pull down its pants or zip them back up. Who's going to vote for the candidate of the party with its pants permanently down, no far enough to get fully boned, not up enough to get on with governing, but just far enough to befoul itself constantly?

It's not time for new leadership - it's way, way past time.

Posted by: Wax the Gunter Flog at February 27, 2015 06:18 PM (lqeGC)

324
It's a bad bad bad idea. The MOH is NOT a lifetime achievement award or "Career" Award. It is for a SPECIFIC Achievement not an after thought.

Yeah, I have no qualms with that. Awards mean nothing today they are given out so frequently to so many. But I'm just saying that obama will never do it for Kyle, no matter what the circumstances.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 06:19 PM (hbvPW)

325 Putin will be in charge of the investigation of his biggest critic's death. Kind of like Holder investigating the IRS.

Posted by: nanny hag at February 27, 2015 06:20 PM (Queum)

326
Jeb Bush's informercial with Sean Hannity, you mean?
I have never heard such a chickenshit, phony baloney question/answer session in my life.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 06:21 PM (hbvPW)

327 John McCain says Scott Walker is a "dumbass". Sayanara Scott. When you've lost McCain, you've lost real Republicans.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 27, 2015 06:21 PM (+IjLH)

328
Understand what it means to send home "non-essential personnel" - it means the agency is purely on life support. It EXISTS, for now, to be re-activated, re-formed or killed -- but it's not doing ANYTHING.

And by ANYTHING, that covers not just the stuff conservatives don't want Obama doing that's NEW, but also any and all stuff that conservatives actually LIKE about the DHS, that, after all, was created by a unified Republican Congress under a Republican president. To be clear: it can't even do what conservatives has an important contribution in setting it up to do.
Posted by: Wax the Gunter Flog




This post was worth 2 units to a Georgetown student intern in Scalasi's office.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 06:21 PM (kdS6q)

329 It's the old "what happens when the Russians take out the Pentagon" argument ...

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Ahh, yes. If I remember correctly, they then go on to Triangles and Octagons....

Posted by: PoliSci-Majoring Pseudo Intellectual at February 27, 2015 06:21 PM (VAsIq)

330 Awards mean nothing today they are given out so frequently to so many.

Actually that is NOT true in the Military, especially the Navy. The Army is a little more liberal with Awards, from what I hear. But from personal experience it is a bitch to get an Award for someone in the Navy very often.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 06:21 PM (nzKvP)

331 If the DHS wasn't so concerned about Tea Party people, they would have prevented the Boston Marathon bombing.

Posted by: nanny hag at February 27, 2015 06:21 PM (Queum)

332 So I hear the world is going to end this weekend...

CNN even has a count down.

Yet I'm called a fear mongerer every time I mention the debt...

Posted by: mynewhandle at February 27, 2015 06:22 PM (AkOaV)

333 I see McCain hasn't looked in mirror lately.

Posted by: Infidel at February 27, 2015 06:22 PM (Z1SI2)

334 McConnell fucked over JB by not changing the cloture rule the same way Reid did. He should have put the House bill up for vote with a 50 vote cloture. He is a complete asshole. Now he sends this piece of shit over to JB. Democrats filibustered the House bill. Idiot Republicans should have been screaming that they were holding Homeland Security hostage. What an f'd up party.

Posted by: alanstern at February 27, 2015 06:22 PM (SM61E)

335
nood dead russian vulcan spock cat pic post

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 06:23 PM (hbvPW)

336 I have never heard such a chickenshit, phony baloney question/answer session in my life.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 06:21 PM


Par for the course.

Did Sean Whinetty call teh Jebster a "Great American?"

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2015 06:23 PM (P8YHq)

337 but also any and all stuff that conservatives actually LIKE about the
DHS, that, after all, was created by a unified Republican Congress under
a Republican president.


Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence, namely that anything anyone in DHS does has any actual value.

Posted by: Methos at February 27, 2015 06:23 PM (A6vWB)

338 For your amusement: some hipster lib who boasts of living in Williamsburg got "assigned" to liveblog House of Cards straight through a binge watch. Precious child she is, she thinks that both Frank and Claire are perfect creatures worth ROOTING for. Spends a whole paragraph talking about the outfit she picked out for the binge watch. I swear this is not a parody.

Spoilers, I guess, if you care. Where are the modern Whodehouses when you need them, to do satire of this inanity. (Other than Iowahawk, of course.)

http://tinyurl.com/kpvdefx

Posted by: LizLem at February 27, 2015 06:24 PM (yRwC8)

339 321 Mia Love voted no.
Posted by: wheatie

Official roll call says she voted aye.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 06:17 PM (kdS6q)

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Wow, really? Where are you seeing that?

According to this, she voted no:

http:/ /clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll105.xml

Posted by: wheatie at February 27, 2015 06:24 PM (XIzXB)

340
I mean obama is handing out medal of honor awards, left and right, to fucking hollywood actors and "activists."

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 06:24 PM (hbvPW)

341 Just put Impeachment back on the fucking table.

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I always used the sofa for that. The table was better for BJs.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 27, 2015 06:24 PM (VAsIq)

342 Why does that off-color Earl Butz joke come to mind ?

I thing it's that part about "loose shoes"

Posted by: James Taylor at February 27, 2015 06:25 PM (e8kgV)

343
presidential medal of freedom awards, rather

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at February 27, 2015 06:25 PM (hbvPW)

344 DHS, that, after all, was created by a unified Republican Congress under
a Republican president.


A) I and many of us were against it then

B) unlike democrats we can admit when a mistake was made

C) And DHS was a recommendation of the bullshit 9/11 committee which was FUBAR from the get go

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 06:25 PM (nzKvP)

345
http:/ /clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll105.xml
Posted by: wheatie


From someone's link to http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll104.xml above, which turns out to be wrong. Thought Rohrabacher voting aye was weird.

You're right.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2015 06:28 PM (kdS6q)

346 A) I and many of us were against it then

B) unlike democrats we can admit when a mistake was made

C) And DHS was a recommendation of the bullshit 9/11 committee which was FUBAR from the get go
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2015 06:25 PM (nzKvP)

Yep yep and yep.

It was a mistake and was created during a crisis, it was not a "small government" move although it was sold as such, and I don't think any of us would defend Bush and the R's on that, or no child left behind, or expanding medicare (part d), or a lot of what he did.

We were sold a bill of goods in the Bush years, which is why we get so aggravated at the R's now. Because we DONT TRUST THEM

Posted by: mynewhandle at February 27, 2015 06:30 PM (AkOaV)

347 Seems like I read somewhere that if the House amended the senate version of the bill and sent it back, the senate had to vote on it and all it would take was 51 to pass it because the Pederast did away with the filibuster.

Maybe the Tea Party is putting the screws to Mitch the Bitch and the Douche L'Orange...thats why the Pederast and the dynamic duo are so pissy.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 27, 2015 05:52 PM
_____________
The above sort of brings up the double cross on the Democrats that Rush brought up yesterday. Do you think they will do it -- and why not? It consisted of the Senate passing a clean bill, sending to the House, and then the House passing with an amendment attached defunding the amnesty. The bill would not be able to be filibustered once it goes back to Senate so could pass with 51 votes. Do you think McConnell is up to that?

Posted by: Alix at February 27, 2015 06:30 PM (fXzSI)

348 Do you know the Riddle of Steel? It also applies to Nations.

Posted by: A Night Elf Mohawk at February 27, 2015 06:31 PM (SOf+k)

349 >>Do you think McConnell is up to that?


He's busy getting his shell polished, then - cocktails. Or maybe just cock if Reid is in the mood.

Posted by: Aviator at February 27, 2015 06:35 PM (sQzB6)

350 DHS Secretary Cant Cite Any Law Authorizing Obama To Give Illegal Aliens Social Security Numbers

Forging SS cards seems likely to be a felony, punishable by five years in prison and a fine up to $25 0,00 0. See Pub. L. No. 97-123,95 Stat. 1659 (1981 amendments).

Someone should remind Jeh of this.

Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at February 27, 2015 06:37 PM (rwI+c)

351
DHS' creation - and the similar nonsensical deck-chair polka with the "Director of National Intelligence" on the intel side - were contemptuously sneered at and opposed by every person with a clue I knew inside the Beltway at the time. Completely ridiculous.

Not a single statutory or formal organizational change was required to prevent more 9/11s (or make them much less likely). Just personnel and policies. Personnel were not changed (ahemm, George out at Langley, are you kidding me? he didn't go?) for the most part. Policies, yes. Especially going on offense (which is unpopular with many people around here who don't seem to understand how the world works).

Congressional goings-on: lots to say about the mechanics, but the key thing here is that the GOP is not making any effort to frame this damn issue accurately - which is to say in a way that is a gigantic political winner (aside from being the right policy, obviously). The Dems and WH are taking national security hostage to protect the president's unconstitutional power grab, which he is making to push the disastrous and unfair policy of amnesty.

If the GOP, with both houses, and hurricane-force political winds at their backs on the issues in question, cannot win this one or force the WH and Dems to risk a horrendous pyrrich "victory", then they literally are useless.

And yes, once again, "shutting down the govt." can be a very effective and entirely positive tool to help focus attention on what is going on, and has historically usually not hampered electoral success in the next cycle (ahemm, last time - plus the dozen+ times it has happened in the last 30 years).

Posted by: rhomboid at February 27, 2015 06:40 PM (afQnV)

352 The bill would not be able to be filibustered once it goes back to Senate so could pass with 51 votes.

If the bill differ, the Senate *can* vote on the amended House version, subject to filibuster, or they can go to conference. Then the compromise bill will be sent back to the respective chambers and voted on again. That vote is also filibusterable in the Senate.

Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at February 27, 2015 06:41 PM (rwI+c)

353
Most bills and conference reports (compromise bills that come out of Senate/House conferences and are identical, sent back to both chambers) are subject to filibuster in the Senate (i.e., the motion to proceed to the bill, or votes for final passage, have no time limit, and can only get one through passage of cloture, requiring 60 votes).

Posted by: rhomboid at February 27, 2015 06:44 PM (afQnV)

354 http:/ /clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll105.xml

Posted by: wheatie at February 27, 2015 06:24 PM (XIzXB)

Phew! Ok, my rep voted No.

But why are these links showing different votes?

Posted by: Tami at February 27, 2015 06:52 PM (v0/PR)

355 My congress critter Amash said no, so proud

Posted by: Creek at February 27, 2015 06:56 PM (1oaJ/)

356 Wheels coming off.

Posted by: eman at February 27, 2015 06:59 PM (0T6Zx)

357 Well, according to the update my rep did vote Yes.


Sigh......

Posted by: Tami at February 27, 2015 07:00 PM (v0/PR)

358 My Rep, Mo Brooks voted NO!

Boehner is a failure and should have his drunk orange ass kicked to the curb.

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at February 27, 2015 07:00 PM (74McK)

359 The conference report on an amended bill is a new action, so the Turtle could file it under reconciliation. Which would allow it to pass with 51 votes.

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2015 07:01 PM (ztOda)

360 Mc Connell split the bill - S(Maine) Collins offers the anti-immigration bill- Dems now filibustering that bill. Mitch. anyone of my dogs is smarter than you.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 27, 2015 07:03 PM (sUEdY)

361 Go Dave Brat +51!

Posted by: redbanzai at February 27, 2015 07:04 PM (afouc)

362 If we made a film of the recent Republican dominance of Congress, is would be aptly named "Ineptocracy".

Posted by: West at February 27, 2015 07:11 PM (fFLZP)

363 alright consider me confused.

was A DHS bill already written (clean) just like Obama wanted and sitting in the Senate?
and this bill was taking out funding for extraordinary Illegal amnesty funds?

halp me sort it out.

Posted by: willow at February 27, 2015 07:15 PM (nqBYe)

364 ofgs
really i'm last?

Posted by: willow at February 27, 2015 07:16 PM (nqBYe)

365 We would all be a lot safer if you shut the whole government down and then the Muslim Brotherhood would not be able to run everything. No government is better government it is time to start over and follow our constitution by the letter. Read the Federalist papers and there is no question about it. Free speech means free speech if you are offended by what someone says that is your problem, etc.

Posted by: alborn at February 27, 2015 07:18 PM (Csbr0)

366 354...But why are these links showing different votes?

Posted by: Tami at February 27, 2015 06:52 PM (v0/PR)

--------

I just looked again...and it has been changed!

I dunno wtf is going on, Tami.
At first it showed all five of our OK reps voted no.
Now, it shows that two of them voted yes.

Posted by: wheatie at February 27, 2015 07:27 PM (XIzXB)

367 Wait the D's are FB'ing the separate senate bill, the one they said they wouldn't if the two were separated?
LOL

Well... of course they are, did little mitchy actually expect anything different?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 27, 2015 07:27 PM (MbrzC)

368 366 - Voting was left open.... so the flaccid Boner is trying to get people to change they're votes.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 27, 2015 07:28 PM (MbrzC)

369 I guess we'll be having a (very partial) shutdown (limited to nonessential personnel).

Heh. 'Nonessential personnel' is probably 5% of their total staff.

Hell, I think it is more like 95% non-esential.

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at February 27, 2015 07:46 PM (lAXNl)

370 I guess who can surrender the hardest is the new game in the pub congress.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 27, 2015 07:50 PM (sUEdY)

371 370 I guess who can surrender the hardest is the new game in the pub congress.
----
It's not really surrender when you never intended to fight or win the battle anyway. It's all been theater.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 27, 2015 07:53 PM (MbrzC)

372 371- Theater like a Greek tragedy.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 27, 2015 07:58 PM (sUEdY)

373 Non essential personnel are non essential, so shut down each dept, one at a time, see who gets laid off as non essential, and then later FIRE their ass em mass!

Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at February 27, 2015 08:20 PM (kHv/o)

374 Reconciliation (non-filibusterable) is a budget procedure. Appropriations are not budget procedures. This is filibusterable.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 27, 2015 08:26 PM (5f5bM)

375 From Breitbart:

With the clock ticking on the expiration of DHS funding House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) announced after the three-week funding bill failed that votes later Friday night and into the weekend are possible.

As it became apparent that the three-week measure would fail, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) exited the House chamber in silence. He did not respond to questions.

Posted by: RushBabe at February 27, 2015 08:36 PM (zdw2Z)

376 Boehner and McConnell are fucking disgraces and I'm glad enough of our representatives have decided that listening to the will of the people which they were elected to serve is more important than kowtowing to gutless establishment leadership. Congress was given a mandate to govern in two elections and the majority leaders still seem to think it is their jobs to polish the brass of his majesty the king.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at February 27, 2015 08:55 PM (A1Dcl)

377 "Hey, Boehner! You told us everybody was voting for it. WTF!? How am I going to explain this back home?"

Posted by: t-bird at February 27, 2015 09:03 PM (FcR7P)

378 McConnell and the RINOsaurs need to eliminate the filibuster so the Ocrats in Congress are neutralized and the focus will be on nObama.

The RINOsaur LOSERship of the GOP is showing the world they are little more than a bunch of crony clowns whose power base isn't about getting stuff done, it's about scrapping as many crony dollars off nearly constipated legislative process until the incomprehensible comprehensive shit flows. When that doesn't work, they've got nothing...

Posted by: Seipherd at February 27, 2015 09:19 PM (+362S)

379 F*k yeah. shut the m'f'r down.

Boner needs to go.

Posted by: Willy at February 27, 2015 09:45 PM (ersJc)

380 Appropriations are not budget procedures.
---
Did you read that back to yourself?

/not trying to be flippant

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 27, 2015 10:03 PM (MbrzC)

381 Congress aka Republicans can't win if they challenge and Boehner knows it. DHS is an Executive dept. Just like any attempt by Congress to reign in the Executive, this shutdown will see the WH inflict maximum unnecessary harm without incurring any blame. Expect staged airport delays and news cameras.

Posted by: Sad Truth at February 28, 2015 03:16 AM (lPdaT)

382 Glad to see my Congresscritter Brat and virtually all the other R's from the Old Dominion standing firm.

Posted by: V at February 28, 2015 07:59 AM (+pZwg)

383 Boehner's gotta tougher job without Cantor, who showed the rank and file no matter how many bribes you can collect, you still answer to the voters.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 28, 2015 08:09 AM (Y92Nd)

384
The fundamental problems are:
1) Unwillingness to use political capital and political leverage, and show political courage to see a strategy through.
2) Conflicted in the agenda to pursue, with too many pro-amnesty Republicans not willing to fight to stop Obama on this.
3) Terrible messaging; there is zero message discipline (especially among RINOs who seem eager to criticize conservative colleagues) and a failure inculcate a narrative that Republicans can support.

Solutions:
1. Man up and grow a pair.
2. Define your agenda HONESTLY and quit trying to fool the rubes that you'll 'stop Obama's agenda' and then not actually do it.
3. Start having real message discipline. Figure out your position and reasoning and STICK TO IT.

Posted by: Capn Crunch at February 28, 2015 01:54 PM (wT9UL)

385 152
>>This is more on McConnell than Boehner. McConnell isn't working with Boehner, at all; he's working with reid and obama."

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER.

While all the heat on Boehner...It's McConnell who is the traitor,
McConnell who precaved long ago,
who failed to push to the limit on cloture votes and hold them on midnight
on Saturday like Reid would do to show how ticked off he was at the Senate
not doing his bidding,
who last week tried to off his failures onto the House ("do something fellas"),
who then gutted his own promises to give Reid the store,
who then allowed a 68 vote majority for the gutless wonder of a 'clean DHS'
bill...

... thus CRAPPING ALL OVER THE ORIGINAL PLAN TO STOP OBAMA'S EXECUTIVE AMNESTY.

To paraphrase the Godfather:
"Boehner's a pimp. It was McConnell all along."

Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at February 28, 2015 01:59 PM (wT9UL)

386 "234


The other day, and probably repeatedly, CNN had on a TSA employee, a
latino, in uniform, to discuss his feelings on the pending shutdown and
how he'll cope with not being paid...on payday.
"

I used to call it the Clinton News Network.
Gawd, I'd to have to call it that again for 4 years....


Disgusting. Good politics, though. That's how you do it.

Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at February 28, 2015 02:05 PM (wT9UL)

387 Screw Boner and Mccuntel. I plan to sit out if an establishment repub gets selected. Just storing cash in case I gotta leave.

Posted by: Andrew at March 01, 2015 02:38 PM (Z1oBf)

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