Overnight Open Thread (2-23-2015)

There are no real class divisions in America except one: the college-educated versus the non-college educated. It helps to think of this in terms borrowed from the world of a Jane Austen novel: graduating from college is what makes you a "gentleman." (A degree from an Ivy League school makes you part of the aristocracy.) It qualifies you to marry the right people and hold the right kind of positions. It makes you respectable. And even if you don't achieve much in the world of work and business, even if you're still working as a barista ten years later, you still retain that special status. It's a modern form of "genteel poverty," which is considered superior to the regular kind of poverty.
If you don't have a college degree, by contrast, you are looked down upon as a vulgar commoner who is presumptuously attempting to rise above his station. Which is pretty much what they're saying about Scott Walker. This prejudice is particularly strong when applied to anyone from the right, whose retrograde views are easily attributed to his lack of attendance at the gentleman's finishing school that is the university.

...You can see now what is fueling the reaction on the left. If Scott Walker can run for president, he is challenging the basic cultural class identity of the mainstream left. He is more than a threat to the Democrats' hold on political power. He is a threat to the existing social order.
-- Robert Tracinksi in Scott Walker Is a Threat to the Existing Social Order

'Men's Magazines' vs. Buzz Aldrin

So GQ reporter Jeanne Marie Laskas recently interviewed Buzz Aldrin and it did not go particularly well.

Now Aldrin is a very interesting guy with lots of interesting things to talk about - he was a fighter pilot in Korea and shot down two MiGS in his F-86 Sabre, flew F-100s in Europe. later earned a Doctor of Science degree in Astronautics from MIT - his thesis was on "Line-of-sight guidance techniques for manned orbital rendezvous" - and then you have the whole astronaut, moon-walking thing as well as his post-astronaut career, and current plans for manned missions to Mars.

But reporter Laskas didn't get into any of that - instead she got hung up on his clothes and jewelry:

He's wearing a lapel pin of his famous moon footprint in miniature, cast in pewter. He's wearing a tan corduroy jacket, a tie with pictures of planets all over it. He's wearing bracelets, big beads. Turquoise on one wrist and a string of translucent alien faces or something on the other.

The jewelry is distracting. There is more. A gigantic double watch, two faces fused together like heads on conjoined twins. There are gold rings, a moon, a star, diamonds, a pinkie ring, many rings. What is up with the jewelry? It's confusing. Wait, jewelry?

Leading to full journalistic FAIL: Instead of just telling us what Aldrin says Laskas prefers to write about her experience of hearing Aldrin say things.

In the end, even though it's supposedly a profile of Aldrin, it tells you a lot about the very uninteresting Laskas, and damned little about Aldrin, who has a book in the stores describing a practical pathway to Mars, a fact she, who is very uninterested in Aldrin beyond his clothes sense, somehow fails to mention. Anywhere. Anywhere at all in the interminable article.

Well, it's not like the readership of GQ would get anywhere with the orbital mechanics, is it? The nearest they get to the space program is stocking up on Astro Glide.

Kevin D. Williamson: Why Rudy is Right About Obama

There is a personality type common among the Left's partisans, and it has a name: Holden Caulfield. He is adolescent, perpetually disappointed, and ever on the lookout for phoniness and hypocrisy. His is the sort of personality inclined to believe in his heart the declaration that "behind every great fortune there is a great crime." (He also believes that this is a quotation from Honoré de Balzac, whose works he has not read, when it fact it comes from Richard O'Connor's The Oil Barons: Men of Greed and Grandeur.) He believes with Elizabeth Warren that the economy is a rigged game based on exploitation and deceit rather than on innovation, productivity, and competition. He believes with Barack Obama that the only reason (e.g.) Staples does not pay its part-time associates more or schedule them for more hours is so that it can pad its executive pay and protect its "billions" in annual profits. (He believes that Staples, whose financials he has not read, makes "billions," when in fact it does no such thing.) Say an admiring word about Steve Jobs and he'll swear that there are four-year-olds working 169 hours a week in Chinese sweatshops producing iPods at the point of a bayonet. He believes that most people get into Harvard and Yale because they have influential parents (that's the University of Texas, unfortunately), that rich Americans mostly inherit their money (in reality, about 15 percent of their assets are inherited, less than for middle-class families), that the U.S. goes to war abroad to enrich contractors at home, and that the entire history of Latin America must be understood through the prism of the United Fruit Company's maneuverings in 1954.
Give Holden Caulfield a television show and you've got Chris Hayes.
Barack Obama has a great, big, heaping dose of Holden Caulfield in him.

Somebody Got a Reality Mugging

Marin County Prosecutor Wants To Make Sure Citizens Think Twice About Self-Defense

Even when fully justified.

Almost a month ago, I wrote about something amazing that happened in our Superior Court: the judge ruled against a prosecutor who sought a judicial indictment against James Simon, who had shot William Osenton when the latter followed Simon's car for miles and then, after Simon pulled into his own garage, followed right into the garage after him, got out of the car, and headed for Simon's house. Despite Simon's warnings (both verbal and a warning shot), Osenton was undeterred, so Simon shot him twice in the stomach. Osenton survived the shooting.

The Prosecutor's take in the preliminary hearing was the same as that advanced by the Progressive: With a scary guy chasing you right into your garage, and then getting out of the car and storming towards the house, all that you are allowed to do is hide in the house, call 911, and hope that the police come in time.

But the prosecutor refused to take no for an answer. Even though California is a Castle Doctrine state.

Unfortunately for Dr. Simon, the prosecutor didn't let the matter rest after the judge said no. Instead, he decided to bring out the heavy guns [pun intended], and have a grand jury decide whether to indict Simon. The grand jury did, which isn't very surprising given that the prosecutor had before him 19 upstanding Marin County residents

It's Racist Except When Pennsylvania Democrats Want Voter ID for THEIR Stuff

But Of Course: Terror Apologist Named to Federal Anti-Terror Post

Moar Fake Hate: Muslim Man Arrested for Bomb Threats Against Austin Muslim Center

Epic Rap Battle: Europe vs Greece on Sovereign Debt Restructuring

Lady Gaga's Oscar Performance

I always thought she was a good singer and that all her studied weirdness only distracted from this.

How Bill Murray Came to Play Professional Baseball in the Summer of 1978

If you didn't know better, you wouldn't believe it all happened in the space of about five weeks in the summer of 1978. But it did happen. In those five weeks, Bill Murray played professional baseball and established himself as a bona fide movie star and the Grays Harbor Loggers - representing the twin cities of Aberdeen and Hoquiam, Wash. - posted the best winning percentage in America and won the Harbor's only professional sports championship in living memory.

Best GIF Ever?

Today in 1945: The First Raising of the Flag Over Mt. Suribachi

The Yahoo AoSHQ group - it's got electrolytes.

And my twitter thang.

Tonight's post brought to you by Joan River's salute to the Oscars:

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1 Not first

Posted by: Harfe at February 23, 2015 09:28 PM (xtpUs)

2 How Can Anyone Be Oppressed, When Everyone is a H8r?

The 'father of the British gay rights movement,' Peter Tatchell, has been declared 'bigoted' and 'transphobic' for not toeing the line when it came to 'trans' talking points. Why? Gays, bisexuals, and lesbians are now the new oppressors. Who are they oppressing? Trannies!

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=8351

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 23, 2015 09:31 PM (0Ew3K)

3 Au contraire.

Posted by: Garrett at February 23, 2015 09:31 PM (QNL3D)

4 When the Voices in Your Hear are Raping Each Other...

Yes, you are oppressing this mentally ill special snowflake by not recognizing the voices in their head being raped by other voices in their head.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=8246

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 23, 2015 09:32 PM (0Ew3K)

5 Hey, anybody read CAC's article in the Federalist? Makes a pretty good case for President Walker.

Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 23, 2015 09:33 PM (/pOl7)

6 So. Empty comment field.

Should I unzip and let loose, marking my spot?

Nah, I'll read through the links to see what todays ont is all about.

Thanks Maet.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at February 23, 2015 09:33 PM (LWu6U)

7 Link to Brandon Finnegan at Hot Air

Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 23, 2015 09:34 PM (/pOl7)

8 Trannies are people,too.

Fucked up people, sure. But, people.

Posted by: Garrett at February 23, 2015 09:34 PM (QNL3D)

9 1Harfe,

Quite the contrary...

Posted by: Sven10077 at February 23, 2015 09:34 PM (/4AZU)

10 I am oppressed. Deprived. Discriminated against. And all because I have a personal shortcoming. I am not well-endowed. Even though I have big hands and feet. That's another myth you can put in the round file. Right along with the one about black people making the best Presidents. Hollywood lied about that one too.

Posted by: Eromero at February 23, 2015 09:35 PM (go5uR)

11 When asked about Guiliani, Walker should just say that He thinks that if someone says they belong to a religion, the only logical thing is to believe them.

Unless you are an official in said religion, only an idiot would say that a person (or group) does not belong to a religion they claim to belong to.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at February 23, 2015 09:36 PM (LWu6U)

12 The article at that Rudy link was written by Williamson, not Cooke.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 23, 2015 09:36 PM (DmNpO)

13 The Epic Rap Battle is amusing.

Greece was supposed to have submitted a draft of proposals to deal with their debt to the Troika today. Wonder how that will go?

Posted by: Thrawn at February 23, 2015 09:37 PM (d7XFS)

14 Has anyone seen Joe Biden creeping on anime girls? Hysterical.
http://tinyurl.com/kyv3tr7

Posted by: Naes at February 23, 2015 09:37 PM (YhayY)

15 Trannies are people,too.

Fucked up people, sure. But, people.

Posted by: Garrett at February 23, 2015 09:34 PM (QNL3D)

Not if they are ocean-gendered star-kin space furries...

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 23, 2015 09:37 PM (0Ew3K)

16 Howdy, y'all....

Posted by: cthulhu at February 23, 2015 09:38 PM (T1005)

17 The article at that Rudy link was written by Williamson, not Cooke.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

(andalreadyposted )

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 23, 2015 09:38 PM (etsc+)

18 Has anyone seen Joe Biden creeping on anime girls? Hysterical.
http://tinyurl.com/kyv3tr7

Posted by: Naes at February 23, 2015 09:37 PM (YhayY)

Joe Biden エッチする

Posted by: Loli Haet Biden at February 23, 2015 09:39 PM (0Ew3K)

19 Woot woot ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 09:40 PM (YOPoU)

20 Thanks Maet!

The best Jerry Springer episodes are the ones where a guy cheats on his girlfriend with some chick he met in a bar only to find out it is a tranny.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at February 23, 2015 09:40 PM (AC0lD)

21 Yay! ONT!

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2015 09:42 PM (doBIb)

22 I detect dissonance in this post.

The first part involves how we're not supposed to care if a candidate for President didn't get into college ....

... the second part involves how we ARE supposed to care that Aldrin got a doctorate at MIT.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2015 09:43 PM (AVEe1)

23 HOOOOOORDDEEE!!!!

Who did we piss off today?

*goes to read the actual post*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 09:43 PM (GEICT)

24 Was Aldrin the former astronaut who decked a particularly obnoxious reporter/papparazi who wouldn't leave him alone?

Posted by: Boots at February 23, 2015 09:43 PM (l9mF2)

25 Good one Maet.
anyone catch the florist lady on kelly file? She has big brass balls for not taking the chump deal offered by the sate. Her "freedom is not for sale"

Posted by: fastfreefall at February 23, 2015 09:43 PM (pqOzY)

26 12 The article at that Rudy link was written by Williamson, not Cooke.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 23, 2015 09:36 PM (DmNpO)

Little known fact: They're actually the same person. :-)

Posted by: Maetenloch at February 23, 2015 09:44 PM (pAlYe)

27 g'evenin', 'rons

BRB

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 23, 2015 09:44 PM (4gN5w)

28 Apropo of nothing--there is a line in a Clancy book--"rattling a saber makes noise, drawing it makes none."

Posted by: Frank Whittle at February 23, 2015 09:44 PM (UKhBB)

29 13
The Epic Rap Battle is amusing.

Greece was supposed to have submitted a draft of proposals to deal
with their debt to the Troika today. Wonder how that will go?

Posted by: Thrawn at February 23, 2015 09:37 PM (d7XFS)

The goats ate their homework -- they blew it off until tomorrow.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 23, 2015 09:45 PM (T1005)

30 Listened to Hewitt running Corn through the mill.
why do leftist reporters always defend themselves by shouting, and using over-active swooping voices to show how but-hurt they are be stupid people who insist on facts other than what they believe?

That and the dismissive laugh. One day me and Mr Black and Decker will talk to some lefty who tries to laugh in my face.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 23, 2015 09:46 PM (t//F+)

31 To Joan!

Fuckem if they can't take a joke!

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at February 23, 2015 09:46 PM (n2opv)

32 When asked about Guiliani, Walker should just say that He thinks that if someone says they belong to a religion, the only logical thing is to believe them.

My response:

You want to know what Rudy thinks, ask Rudy. I ain't his mama.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 23, 2015 09:47 PM (MMC8r)

33 Say an admiring word about Steve Jobs and he'll swear that there are
four-year-olds working 169 hours a week in Chinese sweatshops producing
iPods at the point of a bayonet.

That's not happening? Damnit, I want my money back!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2015 09:47 PM (UVfht)

34 Bloody Mary's all around in memory of Joan

Posted by: Thunder B is Sick of This Shit at February 23, 2015 09:47 PM (n2opv)

35 22 I detect dissonance in this post.
The first part involves how we're not supposed to care if a candidate for President didn't get into college ....
... the second part involves how we ARE supposed to care that Aldrin got a doctorate at MIT.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2015 09:43 PM (AVEe1)

How so?

The point was that Aldrin knows and has done a lot - which the reporter decided to not delve into at all.

Posted by: Maetenloch at February 23, 2015 09:48 PM (pAlYe)

36 Ref reality mugging.

I asked her a question, got an answer.

https://twitter.com/ComradeArthur/
status/567863568126750721

(cut and paste to rejoin line)

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 23, 2015 09:50 PM (h53OH)

37 Hmmmm......

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 23, 2015 09:50 PM (O0D1Q)

38 The point was that Aldrin knows and has done a lot - which the reporter decided to not delve into at all.
Posted by: Maetenloch at February 23, 2015 09:48 PM (pAlYe)

Sounds as if the reporter should be hosting "What Not To Wear" instead of interviewing a true American hero.

you can't fix stupid

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 09:50 PM (YOPoU)

39 I always thought she was a good singer and that all her studied weirdness only distracted from this.

Lady Gaga made Stefani Germanotta enough money that she can now spend the rest of her life making any kind of music she wants.

She's a talented pianist as well.

She just did an album of standards. My guess for what's next? Either Carole King or Van Morrison.

Or, hell, Patsy Cline.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at February 23, 2015 09:51 PM (IrByp)

40 11 When asked about Guiliani, Walker should just say that He thinks that if someone says they belong to a religion, the only logical thing is to believe them.
Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at February 23, 2015 09:36 PM (LWu6U)

'Just as I take Isis and al qaeda and all the terrorists professing to be Muslims at their word...'

Posted by: Lea at February 23, 2015 09:51 PM (vmMMi)

41 So has Obama won this net neutrality thing? Done deal, cannot be undone, ever?

And his EO about financial advisor regulation. Done deal, never can be undone?

This fucking guy is having his way with us, isn't he?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 23, 2015 09:51 PM (U6f54)

42 The first photos of the Marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima were actually taken by SSGT Louis Lowery. This was the first flag that was raised. When it was decided that the flag was too small, a second flag raising was done, with the famous Joe Rosenthal snapping the pic. Three of the flag raisers in Rosenthal's photo were later killed on Iwo, as was SSGT Lowery. It was arguably the most famous photo of WWII.
Once upon a time when the US had men.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 23, 2015 09:51 PM (AxABj)

43 Aldrin's always been a bit of a camera hog (unlike Armstrong), but as the second guy on the Moon, you've pretty much gotta give him that.

It's actually a story about how vacuous the Media is. Unintentionally.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 23, 2015 09:52 PM (MMC8r)

44 I asked her a question, got an answer.

I'll take "insanity" for $200, Alex.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2015 09:52 PM (doBIb)

45 Wow! Who knew that Gaga person could sing? Why isn't she on Broadway?

Posted by: Tuna at February 23, 2015 09:53 PM (JSovD)

46 29
13

The Epic Rap Battle is amusing.

Greece was supposed to have submitted a draft of proposals to deal

with their debt to the Troika today. Wonder how that will go?

Posted by: Thrawn at February 23, 2015 09:37 PM (d7XFS)
The goats ate their homework -- they blew it off until tomorrow"

Greece's only hope is that the Eurocrats who have massive amounts of prestige and patronage tied up in the Euro project are so unwilling to admit their little experiment is failing and that they will do anything to kick the can down the road if only for another 6 months. It's a good hope. The Eurocrats will blink first even though Greece shouldn't have any leverage, because they know Greece will be better off longterm devaluing a Greek currency to boost exports and tourism. If Greece is better off then maybe some other countries take notice.

Posted by: Naes at February 23, 2015 09:53 PM (YhayY)

47 It's all good, man.

(Better call Saul)

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 23, 2015 09:53 PM (O0D1Q)

48 Here's my Hollywood Blockbuster movie idea.

Beslan meets the Oscars.

And the terrorists would be Muslim.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at February 23, 2015 09:53 PM (AC0lD)

49 Was Aldrin the former astronaut who decked a particularly obnoxious reporter/papparazi who wouldn't leave him alone?

He decked a guy who claimed the moon landing was fake. I'll see if I can find the video.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2015 09:53 PM (UVfht)

50 "A degree from an Ivy League school makes you part of the aristocracy"

I *think* I get what he's saying with this piece, but this guy either 1. hasn't met enough Ivy Leaguers or 2. has a very different definition of "aristocracy" than I do.

I also really have not sensed much Scott Walker hatred yet, even with his evolution comment.

Posted by: AD at February 23, 2015 09:53 PM (LUhJH)

51 Re: Ms Laskas and Buzz Aldrin (He is one of the guys you want to say Name-F*cking-Name with.)

So this piece of Samsonite interviews one of the few humans to ever walk on another world, and the only thing she takes away from it is that he seems odd. Ms Laskas, how could he not? He is about as different from you as to almost be another species.

As with so many of these idiots, it is always about her.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2015 09:54 PM (wt/Oq)

52 Ok, holy shit. The Lady Gaga thing. I've seen it mentioned all over the place. I finally watched it.

That, that was truly impressive. I don't give a shit about her, that performance was amazing.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 09:54 PM (GEICT)

53 "She's a talented pianist as well."

Yes, she is.

Singer? Yes as well. This has not been a huge secret.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 23, 2015 09:55 PM (O0D1Q)

54 I remember Gaga's last album tanking, right? Maybe she's decided she's established herself with the freakshow and the time has come to get by on quality.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 23, 2015 09:56 PM (MMC8r)

55 Too much high-quality thought for one ONT. Brain...overwhelmed.

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 09:56 PM (qyomX)

56 The Most Interesting Man in the World meme needs to change the picture to Bill Murray.

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2015 09:57 PM (ZKGnj)

57 Just finished watching a Bill Murray movie too.

St. Vincent.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2015 09:57 PM (doBIb)

58 The Left talks about separation of church & state. The Left also likes to use the vast powers of the IRS to suit their agenda. OK let's do this. In the middle east citizens are required to both have ID & declare their religious affiliation. Nothing "racist" there right? The muslims get to pursue genocide based on their religion. Got it. So take this to the next step here in "Merica." Everyone has to register both their religious affiliation AND their church/mosque/temple whatever. I say let's push this to the limits against 'THEM" For example, you can worship all you want in your own home /residence. 24/7 . The minute you want to "exceed" the personal religious exemption, you must now file to become a church/temple/mosque, etc. A mandatory requirement to become a church/ mosque/temple, etc. is the leader of this "organized religion" must surrender an insurance policy + cash bond to safe guard the peace and tranquility of society. So if the church, temple, mosque has a member that decides that is is a terrific idea to blow shit up. Fine. That building is immediately bulldozed, the bank accounts seized, and RICO enforcement is established. This procedure will NOT guarantee a civil society, but it will surely place financial responsibility on people who want to harm innocent citizens. Now this plan may need some "adjustment" I am good with that. What I desire to to is two-fold, use the rhetoric of The Left against them to it's fullest extent AND confiscate ALL of the wealth so that they can worship as they please AND become responsible and fiscally liable citizens of this Constitutionally Limited Republic .

Posted by: Grumpy Old Man at February 23, 2015 09:58 PM (di2Uz)

59 My attitude about lady gaga changed when I seen her do some songs with Tony Bennett. They sounded good together, and she seemed right at home doing it. I was... impressed.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2015 09:58 PM (FMbng)

60 49 Was Aldrin the former astronaut who decked a particularly obnoxious reporter/papparazi who wouldn't leave him alone?
He decked a guy who claimed the moon landing was fake. I'll see if I can find the video.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2015 09:53 PM (UVfht)

As I recall it was even more egregious than that. The moon-landing denier set up a fake interview with Buzz at a hotel supposedly talk to to Japanese school children. Instead when Aldrin arrived he was confronted by the guy and a camera crew who accused him of lying to the world and demanded he admit it was all a hoax. Well Buzz was having none of that and punched the guy out.

Posted by: Maetenloch at February 23, 2015 09:58 PM (pAlYe)

61 I don't care who is singing the Sound of Music Score, I am not listening.

Posted by: Garrett at February 23, 2015 09:58 PM (QNL3D)

62 My list of faux hate crimes is getting so long I think its going to break the server. My all time favorite comes right from home though:

May 1982, Azelea Cooley says racist epithets are painted on her house. The day the cancer victim is pushed across a bridge in her wheelchair in Portland by cheering masses, the police reveal that not only did she personally get filmed lighting a cross by herself on her lawn, she walked out to do it. That's right, her wheelchair was fake too. She later admitted she'd done it all and further didn't have the cancer, either.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 23, 2015 09:58 PM (39g3+)

63 Gaga is probably one of the best classically trained of the modern pop tartlets; give her a piano and have her sing acoustic and there are few better in her generation. (Note I said HER generation, not ANY generation; I'm not a heathen. Yet.) I think she did the schlocky meat dress type of stuff to stand out from the other wannabe musicians, but that is no longer necessary. I like this direction for her, hope it sticks.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP8SrlbpJ5A
www.youtube.com/watch?v=laIr_d0hFB8

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 09:59 PM (yRwC8)

64 "
I remember Gaga's last album tanking, right?"

Depends. "Born this Way" didn't do much but the single did well.

Don't know much about "Artpop."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 23, 2015 09:59 PM (O0D1Q)

65 As I recall it was even more egregious than that. The moon-landing denier set up a fake interview with Buzz at a hotel supposedly talk to to Japanese school children. Instead when Aldrin arrived he was confronted by the guy and a camera crew who accused him of lying to the world and demanded he admit it was all a hoax. Well Buzz was having none of that and punched the guy out.

Posted by: Maetenloch at February 23, 2015 09:58 PM (pAlYe)

Huh. The clip I know of appears to be in an airport or something similar.

http://youtu.be/wptn5RE2I-k

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:00 PM (GEICT)

66 Buzz Aldrin punches dirtbag:

http://youtu.be/wptn5RE2I-k

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2015 10:00 PM (UVfht)

67 fastfreefall- I did. Good on her. I wish more would stand up.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2015 10:00 PM (1000j)

68 52 Ok, holy shit. The Lady Gaga thing. I've seen it mentioned all over the place. I finally watched it.

That, that was truly impressive. I don't give a shit about her, that performance was amazing.

It was. And, notable in these times, she didn't make it about her. She channelled just the exact right amount of Julie Andrews without making it a pure imitation.

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 10:00 PM (qyomX)

69 Huh. The clip I know of appears to be in an airport or something similar.
http://youtu.be/wptn5RE2I-k
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:00 PM (GEICT)

The description says it was in a Hollywood hotel.

Posted by: Maetenloch at February 23, 2015 10:01 PM (pAlYe)

70 Hiring Laskas to write about Aldrin really makes you wonder who calls the shots at GQ and how weird they are. This is a woman whose education consisted of an MFA, which though fine in itself hardly gives her the background to interview Aldrin. She's written a number of books, one with an introduction by Hillary!, but most of those books have herself as the subject and Aldrin is notoriously short tempered with narcissistic goofballs. We have one thing to thank the fools at GQ for: At least they didn't hire Sabrine Rubin Erdely, or lord knows what story she would have invented. Instead you just got a strange fixation on watches and jewelry.

Posted by: MTF, Fan of the Crusades at February 23, 2015 10:01 PM (8pU1e)

71 As I recall it was even more egregious than that. The moon-landing denier set up a fake interview with Buzz at a hotel supposedly talk to to Japanese school children. Instead when Aldrin arrived he was confronted by the guy and a camera crew who accused him of lying to the world and demanded he admit it was all a hoax. Well Buzz was having none of that and punched the guy out.

Posted by: Maetenloch at February 23, 2015 09:58 PM (pAlYe)

That was great. He didn't even hesitate. He went right after the dude. I don't blame him. In that nano second I bet all the training, the risk, the accidental deaths, the moon walk, the prep, the fear, all of it probably flashed before his eyes and he said oh fuuuuck this guy...*pop*.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2015 10:01 PM (FMbng)

72 It isn't the hipster elite who want to go to Mars. The hipster intend to rule here in the utopia they will create for themselves when they take command.

It's the serfs who want to get off this planet, to get away from the hipster elite who intend to rule.

Posted by: Willard P. at February 23, 2015 10:02 PM (T/tz2)

73 Gaga looked normal. The horror of it

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 10:03 PM (YOPoU)

74 GQ is for fags. They don't care about astrophysics. They care about jewelry and fashion.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 23, 2015 10:03 PM (V70Uh)

75 The "re-reporting" is going wonderfully! We should have the results any month now!

Posted by: Rolling Stone at February 23, 2015 10:04 PM (qyomX)

76 >> 'Just as I take Isis and al qaeda and all the terrorists professing to be Muslims at their word...'

Posted by: Lea at February 23, 2015 09:51 PM (vmMMi)

Yes, exactly. that was the point i was trying to make.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at February 23, 2015 10:04 PM (LWu6U)

77 73 Gaga looked normal. The horror of it

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 10:03 PM (YOPoU)

But she has tattoos. So, you know, she's trash.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:04 PM (GEICT)

78 "It's Racist Except When Pennsylvania Democrats Want Voter ID for THEIR Stuff"
---------------

NAACP requires picture ID to attend their events. Including those protesting voter ID law.
http://tinyurl.com/mgqm9lo

Posted by: Der Kommisar at February 23, 2015 10:04 PM (F2IAQ)

79 Gaga looked normal. The horror of it

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 10:03 PM (YOPoU)

She looked pretty damn good really.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2015 10:04 PM (FMbng)

80 Gaga is probably one of the best classically trained of the modern pop tartlets; give her a piano and have her sing acoustic and there are few better in her generation. (Note I said HER generation, not ANY generation; I'm not a heathen. Yet.) I think she did the schlocky meat dress type of stuff to stand out from the other wannabe musicians, but that is no longer necessary. I like this direction for her, hope it sticks.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP8SrlbpJ5A
www.youtube.com/watch?v=laIr_d0hFB8

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 09:59 PM (yRwC

Still don't care for her stuff.

That she chooses to do this GaGa schtick speaks ill of her.

Posted by: The Un-Pop Hat at February 23, 2015 10:05 PM (0Ew3K)

81
A few years old, but doubt things have gotten more butch:

Study: 'GQ' Is the Gayest Magazine Ever

Gayest
1. GQ, 10.39% of male readers are gay/bi
2. Entertainment Weekly, 10.35%
3. TV Guide, 5.46%
4. People, 5.1%
5. Newsweek, 4.74% (tie)

Straightest
1. North American Hunter, 99.9% of male readers are straight
2. North American Fisherman, 99.5%
3. Four Wheeler, 99.45%
4. Guns Ammo, 99.43%
5. Sporting News, 99.41%

gawker.com/156585/study-gq-is-the-gayest-magazine-ever

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 23, 2015 10:05 PM (kdS6q)

82 73
Well except for the tats. Beautiful gowns and tats do not mix.

Posted by: Tuna at February 23, 2015 10:06 PM (JSovD)

83 Seriously? Are we seriously going to talk about how "gay" magazines are?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:06 PM (GEICT)

84 There's a reason they named the Toy Story character "Buzz Lightyear," and it wasn't for Jeanne Marie Laskas.

Fuck her.

Posted by: Phinn at February 23, 2015 10:06 PM (DLUnW)

85 I wonder how the Gaga Oscars thing happened. No doubt she knew she could do that. But how did anyone else even guess that she was capable of it?

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 10:06 PM (qyomX)

86 But she has tattoos. So, you know, she's trash.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at

Ok Garrett

:-)

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 10:06 PM (YOPoU)

87 Especially in the internet age, musicians are having an easier time being heard. I read a statistic years ago that stated that only 0.76 percent of bands ever got heard outside their own county. This was maybe in the late 80's early 90's. The ability to make it to the big time any more must be insane (unless you're rap/hip hop) so you need to have some kind of way to draw attention to yourself because your music can get lost in all the background noise. Maybe all the over the top schtick from GaGa was to stand out. Now that she has the platform, maybe she can do the kind of music she wants to do. Sort of like the line from that old song about there being 10,000 guitar pickers in Nashville. Sorry for saying maybe too many times.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 23, 2015 10:07 PM (AxABj)

88 I am wondering if Kevin Williamson read "Catcher in the Rye." Holden Caufield beloved little brother died and he didn't get to go to the funeral or talk about it.

He was grieving.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 23, 2015 10:08 PM (V70Uh)

89 It isn't the hipster elite who want to go to Mars. The hipster intend to rule here in the utopia they will create for themselves when they take command.

It's the serfs who want to get off this planet, to get away from the hipster elite who intend to rule.

Posted by: Willard P. at February 23, 2015 10:02 PM (T/tz2)

The Left wants to create their utopia from scratch. I say we let them have a real Tabula Rasa and send them packing off Earth.

Posted by: The Hat-Galactic Gargleblaster at February 23, 2015 10:08 PM (0Ew3K)

90 But she has tattoos. So, you know, she's trash.

Is that a requirement?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2015 10:08 PM (UVfht)

91 gawker.com/156585/study-gq-is-the-gayest-magazine-ever

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 23, 2015 10:05 PM (kdS6q)

Hey, what are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: Playgirl Magazine at February 23, 2015 10:08 PM (B+p2p)

92 Obama doesn't 'not love' the US, he's just for the other side, whoever that may be.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 23, 2015 10:08 PM (NaeCR)

93 Seriously? Are we seriously going to talk about how "gay" magazines are?

Felcher's Monthly, surprisingly high.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 23, 2015 10:09 PM (MMC8r)

94 83 Seriously? Are we seriously going to talk about how "gay" magazines are?

This. But, um, also wondering how Popular Mechanics didn't make it onto the butch list.

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 10:09 PM (qyomX)

95
Truth of the matter is that Chinese people *are* basically slaves.

But how that's our fault I'll never know.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 10:09 PM (MDgS8)

96 Joan River: class act, no?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 23, 2015 10:09 PM (V70Uh)

97 If someone questioned my Christanity, I would consider it an opportunity to witness. If I really was a Christian. I wonder if I could do it if it was a high school kid with a gun saying Do you believe in Jesus? Could I reply I believe in God the Father Maker of Heaven and Earth...

Posted by: Tmitsss at February 23, 2015 10:09 PM (Pa9vP)

98 Those few gay guys reading North American Hunter, etc.

Is that like their version of the Sears Catalog?

Posted by: Meremortal at February 23, 2015 10:10 PM (1Y+hH)

99 My thought process is quite simple. "They" would like to live according to 7th century thinking. Fine. Fucking pay for it. They can decide if and when to join this so called modern day and age, or not. But the financial cost has to be crushing and brutal if they want to kill and blow shit up.

Posted by: Grumpy Old Man at February 23, 2015 10:10 PM (di2Uz)

100 Seriously? Are we seriously going to talk about how "gay" magazines are?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:06 PM (GEICT)

Playgirl's readership is mostly male.

When the late Peter Steele from Type O Negative found out this tidbit after he posed nude for Playgirl, he was mortified.

Posted by: Type O Hat at February 23, 2015 10:10 PM (0Ew3K)

101 Evening all. I'm currently re-watching Fracknation.

Just a terrific terrific documentary fighting against that dickhead Josh Fox and Gasland - which has a sequel by the way.

Posted by: thathalfrican at February 23, 2015 10:11 PM (R5HRU)

102 Anyone see the story on DWS planning on calling Obama sexist or anti-Semitic if he had her replaced?

My question is: Did she actually think that would work? She would have been eaten alive. She might still get eaten alive for merely thinking about besmirching the God-King.

Dems with Obama remind me of the story of the Lady and the Tiger... except, you know, not as lady-like.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2015 10:11 PM (wt/Oq)

103
Those few gay guys reading North American Hunter, etc.
Posted by: Meremortal

They're those guys from Deliverance.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 23, 2015 10:11 PM (kdS6q)

104 95 Truth of the matter is that Chinese people *are* basically slaves

No. Ever met any?

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 10:11 PM (qyomX)

105 "Is that a requirement?"

There are trash w/o tattos, so, it must not be a black-n-white thing.

Teeth may be a bigger indicator.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 23, 2015 10:12 PM (O0D1Q)

106 86
But she has tattoos. So, you know, she's trash.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at

Ok Garrett

:-)"

Unless she's showing off some bad ass yakuza tats that cover her entire back. Or if she's showing off the tattoo of her military unit. Those are the only acceptable types.

Posted by: Naes at February 23, 2015 10:12 PM (YhayY)

107 I wonder how the Gaga Oscars thing happened. No doubt she knew she could do that. But how did anyone else even guess that she was capable of it?
Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 10:06 PM (qyomX)

How did people know that?

Because she just did a standards album with Tony Bennett And she did a PBS special of the recording of that album.

And she's been doing her and a piano version of her songs and other people's songs and here have some random Joplin and classical and blues in the middle of all that ever since she broke on the scene.

Honestly, it's not a surprise at all that she can do this. That performance right there? That's exactly what she spent years learning to do.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at February 23, 2015 10:12 PM (IrByp)

108 "Goddamn Japs!"

My Uncle

Posted by: Dave at February 23, 2015 10:12 PM (/iRd9)

109
When the late Peter Steele from Type O Negative found out this tidbit after he posed nude for Playgirl, he was mortified.

Heh....I have no idea who the person or the movie/TV show is but that's funny right there.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 10:12 PM (MDgS8)

110 Red Wings should've gotten a penalty shot. Stupid Ducks.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at February 23, 2015 10:12 PM (9BRsg)

111 Given that the GQ interviewer was female and probably liberal, with the IQ of your average Kardashian, Aldrin's lucky he wasn't falsely accused of "Rape Culture".

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2015 10:13 PM (eLZyM)

112 Honestly, it's not a surprise at all that she can do this. That performance right there? That's exactly what she spent years learning to do.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at February 23, 2015 10:12 PM (IrByp)

I didn't know she was capable of it. Had no idea. I mean, I knew she had some talent, but I had no idea she was capable of that. I'm honestly blown away. It was awesome.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:13 PM (GEICT)

113 Hey, anybody read CAC's article in the Federalist? Makes a pretty good case for President Walker. Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 23, 2015 09:33 PM (/pOl7)

It was, excellent, as CAC's stuff usually is. A nice blend of election poll wonk and youthful but intelligent patter. Really hits home that the dems created this monster that is Scott Walker, throne of skulls demigod, all on their own. Heh.

But had CAC used the phrase "Throne of Skulls" in his article he would have gotten 1000+ extra points; wasted opportunity!

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 10:14 PM (yRwC8)

114 Lady Gaga made Stefani Germanotta enough money that she can now spend the rest of her life making any kind of music she wants.

She's a talented pianist as well.

She just did an album of standards. My guess for what's next? Either Carole King or Van Morrison.

Or, hell, Patsy Cline.

***

Exactly. She's a brilliant marketeer who used proven models of success to sell her talents to the masses and is now free to showcase her talents in whateverthehell way she chooses.

It could be quite interesting.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 23, 2015 10:14 PM (DmNpO)

115 "Goddamn Japs!"

Pretty much all of my older male relatives when they were alive.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2015 10:14 PM (1000j)

116 I have now been schooled about what's on PBS. By alexthechick. Mind blown.

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 10:14 PM (qyomX)

117 But had CAC used the phrase "Throne of Skulls" in his article he would have gotten 1000+ extra points; wasted opportunity!

Posted by: LizLem
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Sounds like the stuff of a Sabo poster.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:15 PM (F2IAQ)

118 Yeah...I saw a snippet of her and Bennet somewhere. She's good.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 10:15 PM (MDgS8)

119 Y-not, do you know why Ducks have flat feet? For putting out forest fires. Do you know why elephants have flat feet? For putting out flaming Ducks!
I crack myself up.
I'll be here all week folks! Please tip your bartenders and waitresses. They're working hard for you.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 23, 2015 10:15 PM (AxABj)

120 "But how did anyone else even guess that she was capable of it?"

Check out YouTube. She has been on there for years singing, playing piano, instruments, etc. Not music videos. Just her doing her thing.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 23, 2015 10:16 PM (O0D1Q)

121 Before Gaga got weird, she was more traditional from what I remember. And man she was impressive back then so I'm not stunned by her performance.

Posted by: thathalfrican at February 23, 2015 10:16 PM (R5HRU)

122 Buzz Aldrin can wear whatever the fuck he wants.

Posted by: otho at February 23, 2015 10:16 PM (tBSrv)

123 You quack me up, Old Blue.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at February 23, 2015 10:17 PM (9BRsg)

124 99 My thought process is quite simple. "They" would like to live according to 7th century thinking

EMP all the caliphate/sharia areas. You want 7th century? You got it.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 23, 2015 10:17 PM (LRyVM)

125
Ducks and Elephants are both excellent swimmers.

Just putting that out there.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 10:17 PM (MDgS8)

126
Joan River: class act, no?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 23, 2015 10:09 PM (V70Uh)

Of course not. She wouldn't have had it any other way.

Posted by: cm9000 at February 23, 2015 10:17 PM (8zCR+)

127 I was amazed at Lady Gaga's voice. She really needs to drop her act of weirdness. Ok. She now has my attention.

My dear Morons and 'ettes...do any of you know, have in home, have heard rumors, are in construction, etc and know anything about radiant heat (hydro-something) in homes vs gas? I am an all-electric kind of person, ac and heat. In Florida one rarely runs heat. But we now have to consider it or freeze.

One home we are looking at has radiant heat and this is my big question...is this a good thing? Is it a nightmare? I am imagining boilers blowing up, etc. Floors leaking water. You name it I am going to think it. I just want your thoughts or advice before I see house next week. I assume it was installed either when built. But do not know.

I was in an ok mood for a day or two since snark fest last week re: Harf with Glasses. I overheard Rosen or O'Blabber O'Riley tongiht saying people picking on Harf and Psake were bullies or some crap. It is called satire. It has been done since the beginning of this country with cartoons and various other methods of freedom of the press. My gosh people have thin skins that are easily bruised...unless you are connected to President Bush! Right? I can't stand Bill O since the days of yore when he allowed Geraldo to spit on Malkin. pfft

Sort of feeling the ole stress jittery rage coming back ...perhaps due to contagious stress of husband meeting work deadlines and dealing with good doctors but THE MOST STUPID STAFF OF ALL MANKIND in an eye "institute." I can vouch by the time you have waited, watching an old back and white movie, being the youngest among the rest of octogenarians, then being initially tested by techs, eyes dilated, put into "dialation room" or the last level of hell before you see doctor, then seeing doctor---always an hour late-- after more tests...well, honey, you are ready for an "institute" by the time this moment arrives.

So, husband called today and wanted simple eye exam for glasses, and called, figuring, we are moving and all that. Patient for yrs with this group. Had surgery and has seen two doctors. Easy-peasy, right? He is a nice man. He allows, on a regular basis, people to boss him around in the medical world when it would be far simpler and faster to just put me on the phone.

Now I get to raise some cathartic hell tomorrow and it has put me in a bad mood which is not good for sleep..sharpens claws....Someone is going to have a bad day tomorrow and it is not going to be me. I must say, no matter how good the doctors are, if the staff routinely act like a herd of jackals, who is running this show? I can't blame Obarfycare, it has always been this way. In the past I have had run-ins with the office manager. I think there is going to be a repeatI. I always get my way. Always. Get off my lawn.

If any of you would be so kind to fill me with your knowledge of radiant heat I will share my Dove chocolate with you in the camps. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 10:17 PM (TIGDR)

128 The description of Laskas made me think of Lena Dunham.

Me,me,me, and......me.

Posted by: Kt(great) at February 23, 2015 10:18 PM (Bl4dy)

129 EMP all the caliphate/sharia areas. You want 7th century? You got it.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 23, 2015 10:17 PM (LRyVM)

We sense cuts within jibs within newsletters.

Posted by: Third Stage Guild Navigator EC at February 23, 2015 10:18 PM (doBIb)

130 "Goddamn Japs!"

Pretty much all of my older male relatives when they were alive.

My brother, replacing the clutch on a '77 Toyota Corolla in the driveway.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2015 10:18 PM (UVfht)

131 When the late Peter Steele from Type O Negative found out this tidbit after he posed nude for Playgirl, he was mortified.

Heh....I have no idea who the person or the movie/TV show is but that's funny right there.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 10:12 PM (MDgS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFwYJYl5GUQ

Posted by: Hat O Negative at February 23, 2015 10:19 PM (0Ew3K)

132 Sounds like the stuff of a Sabo poster. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:15 PM (F2IAQ)
I would love a series of presidential hopeful posters from him. Cruz is already done Sabo style, tatted and cigaretted and FYNQ'd. Walker could be GoT style throne of skulls.What about the others...Nikki Haley? Rick Perry?

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 10:19 PM (yRwC8)

133 Y-not, do you know why Ducks have flat feet? For putting out forest fires.
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* recalls scene of Rhinoceros stamping out camp fire in 'The Gods Must Be Crazy' *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:20 PM (F2IAQ)

134 I do remember watching a video of Ms. Germanotta doing a really credible version of a Led Zeppelin song in some little Greenwich Village club, before she hit it big. Can't summon the title, but it contains the lyric "You don't have to go."

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 10:20 PM (qyomX)

135 That and the dismissive laugh. One day me and Mr Black and Decker will talk to some lefty who tries to laugh in my face.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 23, 2015 09:46 PM (t//F+)

Michael Moore does that on talk shows. If someone makes a comment questioning what he said, he does that smirky laugh and says something along the line of, "Yeah, right". The guy is not an intellectual giant.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2015 10:20 PM (eLZyM)

136 I don't know, Christy.
Main advice I have is areas around here sometimes have foundation issues. Get a good inspector.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at February 23, 2015 10:21 PM (9BRsg)

137 I was particularly amused by CAC's description of the AoSHQDD as his "side venture" or something like that. Clearly a little poke at Ace.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at February 23, 2015 10:21 PM (5pg79)

138 The owlets are getting big... http://landingsbirdcam.com/

Posted by: Jim Fowler at February 23, 2015 10:21 PM (B+p2p)

139 Ducks and Elephants are both excellent swimmers.

Just putting that out there.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 10:17 PM (MDgS

So, if an elephant weighs as much as a duck...

Posted by: Sir Bedivere at February 23, 2015 10:21 PM (0Ew3K)

140 A friend's dad, who served in the Navy during WWII, always called them "Nips."

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 23, 2015 10:21 PM (V70Uh)

141 What about the others...Nikki Haley? Rick Perry?

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 10:19 PM (yRwC

I'm thinking Sabo could kill with this pic...

http://tinypic.com/r/10ephf9/8

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:21 PM (GEICT)

142 Too many have gotten caught up, and dismissive, of her stage acts.

It's a "thing." Like KISS and their makeup. Like Ozzy and chickens.

Ya don't know, just a thing. Tom Petty is a druggy lookin' bastard but makes some hellacious music.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 23, 2015 10:22 PM (O0D1Q)

143 I do remember watching a video of Ms. Germanotta
doing a really credible version of a Led Zeppelin song in some little
Greenwich Village club, before she hit it big. Can't summon the title,
but it contains the lyric "You don't have to go."

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 10:20 PM (qyomX)
D'yer Maker

Posted by: Third Stage Guild Navigator EC at February 23, 2015 10:22 PM (doBIb)

144 Dyer maker from houses of the holy

Posted by: ginaswo at February 23, 2015 10:22 PM (+X1qa)

145 Off Spice mutated sock.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2015 10:22 PM (doBIb)

146 Lizlem : Hailey? : http://tinyurl.com/oprd87e

Maybe holding Hillary's head?
Too much?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:23 PM (F2IAQ)

147 I've always liked Lady Gaga. I never paid any attention to the persona. Her song Speechless from the Fame Monster album is what sold me.

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2015 10:23 PM (ZKGnj)

148 I'm thinking Sabo could kill with this pic...

That needs to be on t-shirts.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2015 10:23 PM (doBIb)

149 Y-not...we hope to get a good inspector, and will use (I guess) the one my son just did. I don't think I am going to make it. Sometimes, even with half of house packed, I want to say, like Gilda Radner, "Never mind."

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 10:24 PM (TIGDR)

150 Rick Perry popping the coyote. Nikki Haley standing windswept.

Posted by: cm9000 at February 23, 2015 10:24 PM (8zCR+)

151 While having an Ivy League degree might make you one of the aristocracy, that apparently is not true if you have a doctorate from MIT and dress like an eccentric - even if you did once walk on the moon.

C'mon, it's not like he has a degree in Gender Studies or better yet, Communications.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 10:24 PM (+XMAD)

152 Hey Hammer,
Did you catch the news about that double shooting in Biltmore Village this afternoon?

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 23, 2015 10:24 PM (HPePn)

153 I'm not a Lady Gaga fan, but she knocked it out of the park with the Sound of Music medley.

And I already knew that she had talent. I've seen videos from her early days.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2015 10:25 PM (sdi6R)

154 So you want a good Nikki Haley poster?

Posted by: Zombie Frank Frazetta at February 23, 2015 10:25 PM (B+p2p)

155 The Federalist is a great magazine, I hadn't been keeping up.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 23, 2015 10:25 PM (+4uXG)

156 107 Honestly, it's not a surprise at all that she can do this.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at February 23, 2015 10:12 PM (IrByp)

Sorry Empress, I disagree. I'm guessing most of us that grew up with Madonna had the same take on the schtick: been there, done that, your schtick don't compare, ignore ignore ignore. Well, musically anyways. We pay enough attention to rag on her crazy outfits & speculate about if she's in drag or a hermaphalite. I only listened to her last night cause I happened to change channels mid performance and went HOLY SHIT she can actually sing. Plus she didn't take "artistic liberties" with the songs.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 23, 2015 10:25 PM (LRyVM)

157 Trannies!

I got your trannie right here ... lost the link...

Back on topic, lady GaGa, but I repeat myself,

S/he/it does a rousing show-tune... say it isn't so...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 23, 2015 10:25 PM (NaeCR)

158 Once at a family picnic my brother started off on how he would NEVER buy an american car and how the japanese were much better at making cars and manufacturing than any american company and how only a fool would buy an american car.

My Uncle (WWII vet), who was not in the conversation, and not real talkative quietly said:
You can buy whatever kind of car you want, but after being over there and seeing our boys hanging from trees with their pants down and their privates cut off I would walk before I ever bought anything made by those g*d damn animals."

End of conversation.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at February 23, 2015 10:26 PM (LWu6U)

159 Re Jeanne Marie Laskas vs. Buzz Aldrin - years ago when I subscribed to the WaPo, JMK had a regular page in the Sunday Post magazine. She was the star of everything she wrote. Everything. I remember she wrote that she was upset with a friend who wanted to name her baby Hannah because it was too similar to Anna, which JMK had already claimed for her not-yet-in-existence child. Yes, JMK is the type of woman who thinks she can call dibs on baby names for her hypothetical children and that the rest of the world needs to honor her wishes.

Posted by: biancaneve at February 23, 2015 10:26 PM (Zl68m)

160 Daughter got a new pup. She lost her buddy recently. The new pup is a shih tzu. The art of war is about to change.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:27 PM (ucDmr)

161 Joan did a great CNN interview where she was asked about the evilness of wearing fur and she told the interviewer to shut up. She did it very calmly and deliberately. She wasn't out of control.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2015 10:27 PM (eLZyM)

162 End of conversation.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at February 23, 2015 10:26 PM (LWu6U)

And the kids of my generation think they own the mike drop? That is not a mike drop, that is a mike nuke.

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 10:28 PM (yRwC8)

163 sorry, but gaga is a contralto singing songs for a soprano.

Posted by: avi at February 23, 2015 10:29 PM (WYnEW)

164 Funny how so many anti-fur people love to wear leather.

Posted by: Buffalo Bill at February 23, 2015 10:29 PM (B+p2p)

165
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* recalls scene of Rhinoceros stamping out camp fire in 'The Gods Must Be Crazy' *
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:20 PM (F2IAQ)

That has to be one of the stupidest movies I've ever seen. Either that or I hadn't altered my reality enough at the time.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 10:29 PM (YOPoU)

166 I think all the "wait, Lady GaGa has actual ability?" reaction are from people who had not paid any attention to her at all. I know I didn't. She was just another pop tart who dressed like a clown and spouted stupid prog rhetoric occasionally. I had no idea she could actually sing. I'm probably not alone in this.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at February 23, 2015 10:30 PM (20X6f)

167 I'm thinking Sabo could kill with this pic...

http://tinypic.com/r/10ephf9/8
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:21 PM (GEICT)

Sigh. Something with Jindal. Sigh.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at February 23, 2015 10:30 PM (IrByp)

168 Hey Hammer,
Did you catch the news about that double shooting in Biltmore Village this afternoon?
Posted by: Grey Fox
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Hey Hammer,
Did you catch the news about that double shooting in Biltmore Village this afternoon?
Posted by: Grey
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Yeah. It's all over the news, TV & radio.
I'm calling it drugs. The guy was only a short distance from interstates heading E-W and N-S, so I'll be surprised if they nab him.

Best chance is that one of the two guys he shot survives....., and will talk.

As an aside, if you sight a guy that looks like Obama's son, with dreads, and driving a red Altima, with chrome rims, approach with caution.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:30 PM (F2IAQ)

169 I'm thinking Sabo could kill with this pic...

That needs to be on t-shirts.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2015 10:23 PM (doBIb)

That needs to be in my nightstand drawer, right next to my.....er.... Kimber.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 10:30 PM (37e3g)

170 88 I am wondering if Kevin Williamson read "Catcher in the Rye." Holden Caufield beloved little brother died and he didn't get to go to the funeral or talk about it.

He was grieving.

I read The Catcher in the Rye. I was grieving for my lost brain cells.

I also read A Separate Peace. After that I was suicidal.

Posted by: Weirddave at February 23, 2015 10:30 PM (7TK5d)

171
I think Curtis Lemay pretty effectively got rid of all the animals. 70 years ago.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 10:30 PM (MDgS8)

172 I don't know if it's fair to J. D. Salinger's creation to compare Holden to Obama. Yes, Holden was whiny and self-absorbed, a 50's emo, but I don't think he was phony or mean himself (Admittedly, I haven't read "Catcher In the Rye" since high school, so my memory of it is vague. Salinger himself was pretty creepy.) Obama is nothing but a phony, nasty piece of work.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 10:31 PM (+XMAD)

173 160 Daughter got a new pup. She lost her buddy recently. The new pup is a shih tzu. The art of war is about to change.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:27 PM (ucDmr)

Ah a slipper.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 10:31 PM (YOPoU)

174 Sigh. Something with Jindal. Sigh.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at February 23, 2015 10:30 PM (IrByp)

Something Clark Kent like? Gotta play up the mild manneredness.

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 10:31 PM (yRwC8)

175 That needs to be in my nightstand drawer, right next to my.....er.... Kimber.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 10:30 PM (37e3g)

What ever happened to the boomstick that shall not be named? Bottom of the lake by now, right?

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2015 10:32 PM (doBIb)

176 So, is radiant heat one of those chakras Gore talked about? A bunch of bs? halp an old supermodel out here peoples. Have you heard nightmare stories? Do your feet melt one morning walking to make tea? My husband claims we stayed in a cabin in Montana or somewhere with this radiant heat but I am usually drinking and have no memory.

It must be rare like the call of a loon (which is the call I will be making to a certain eye institute tomorrow).

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 10:32 PM (TIGDR)

177 As an aside, if you sight a guy that looks like Obama's son, with dreads, and driving a red Altima, with chrome rims, approach with caution.

Heh. I will.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 23, 2015 10:32 PM (HPePn)

178 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 10:30 PM (37e3g)

Haaha!

Posted by: thathalfrican at February 23, 2015 10:32 PM (R5HRU)

179 173: I know how you feel about them,but, he's cool. Big dog wouldn't work for her.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:32 PM (ucDmr)

180 Sorry Empress, I disagree. I'm guessing most of us that grew up with Madonna had the same take on the schtick: been there, done that, your schtick don't compare, ignore ignore ignore. Well, musically anyways. We pay enough attention to rag on her crazy outfits & speculate about if she's in drag or a hermaphalite. I only listened to her last night cause I happened to change channels mid performance and went HOLY SHIT she can actually sing. Plus she didn't take "artistic liberties" with the songs.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 23, 2015 10:25 PM (LRyVM)

That was where I came from on this. A slightly different take being a graduate from the Odenbrand school of metal who knows jack shit about pop music. I was like yeah, another retard in a meat suit. I have to admit, watching her with Tony Bennett blew my mind.

On another note, I think the biggest surprise to me was Shakira. All I knew of her was some latin belly dancing pop diva something or other. One night one of my nieces was over and made me put on letterman because shakira was going to be on. Ok yeah whatever. She played some song that was nothing like I expected from her. It was some straight out rock type song. Was not what I expected. I just found it on you tube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=safaF_ER1t8

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2015 10:32 PM (FMbng)

181 Sigh. Something with Jindal. Sigh.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at February 23, 2015 10:30 PM (IrByp)

http://tinypic.com/r/alqm8k/8

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:33 PM (GEICT)

182 If you can read Steinbeck without wanting to either kill yourself or burn the book and salt the ashes, you're one up on me.

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 10:33 PM (qyomX)

183 >>>51
As with so many of these idiots, it is always about her.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2015 09:54 PM (wt/Oq)

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Reminds me of the student chosen to speak at my stepdaughter's commencement for her master's degree. The content of the speech, such as it was, was almost entirely about the speaker's experience of trying to come up with a topic. She shared her thoughts as she was walking to class, and talking to her friends about the speech, and watching TV instead of working on it. She even managed to include a slam against Bush. When she finally got around to sharing the message that was the fruit of all her ruminations, it was something so trite and shallow and unoriginal that it took up 2% of her speech -- something along the lines of "Be yourself."

My lib sister-in-law thought it was an excellent speech, much better than the one at my stepdaughter's high school commencement. (That speaker had a message chock full of encouragement and wisdom and exhortation and congratulations, but he sounded suspiciously conservative.)

My assessment of the airhead's speech: she had excellent diction.

Posted by: Mindy at February 23, 2015 10:33 PM (81V/7)

184
I read The Catcher in the Rye. I was grieving for my lost brain cells.

I also read A Separate Peace. After that I was suicidal.

I liked both as I recall....but that was funneh.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 10:33 PM (MDgS8)

185 That has to be one of the stupidest movies I've ever seen. Either that or I hadn't altered my reality enough at the time.
Posted by: Misanthropic
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I didn't care about the movie...., although I thought the Land Rover winching itself into the tree was amusing. Here's the great part though...., the couple that we saw it with are uber-Liberals. They were both highly offended by the movie, because they thought that it was racist. A week later, the NYT reviewed it in glowing terms. I pointed that out, and my friend mumbled.., "Well, I may have been over-hasty in my appraisal."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:34 PM (F2IAQ)

186 OK, I'm back.

What'd I miss? Did we talk about the S.E.Michigan MoMe yet?

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 23, 2015 10:34 PM (4gN5w)

187 GaGa sings a fantastic duet of The Lady isa Tramp with Tony Bennett. She's got real talent. She pulled some Madonna stunts to get noticed.

Posted by: keena at February 23, 2015 10:35 PM (RiTnx)

188 179 173: I know how you feel about them,but, he's cool. Big dog wouldn't work for her.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:32 PM (ucDmr)

I could've given her lots of ideas for a smaller dog. Although I am partial to the sporting group.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 10:35 PM (YOPoU)

189 88
I am wondering if Kevin Williamson read "Catcher in the Rye."

Thanks for noting this.

Yeah, I was a little taken aback by the reference. His attitude is immature and dismissive, especially at the beginning of the book if I recall, but he was a lot more than that and I thought reducing him to that attitude was a disservice.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at February 23, 2015 10:35 PM (LWu6U)

190 that's right! to be a member of the ruling class you have to be an alumnus of an ivy league university. of course, the rich can afford to send their children to the best prep schools that provide the kind of educational foundation that will get the kids in. in addition, if the kids stray far from the route, their money, connections, and legacy will still guarantee that the kid will get in anyway. ivy league aside, people who attend college, any college, make more money on average then someone with just a high school diploma. in today's job market, the college degree is just expected for most decent jobs. this is all common knowledge. whether a college degree really has actual substance is really a whole different conversation altogether. what is at issue here is why walker didn't just finish his damn degree? he went into politics - the most unforgiving of anything out of the ordinary - yet he didn't bother to finish his degree? he had years upon years to do so. of course it was going to be brought up, and if walker were a democrat, ann coulter would surely have a comment or two to make about him not graduating from college. in an ideal world it shouldn't matter, but this is politics we are talking about here. if he really was serious about being president, he should have just finished his stupid college degree and then none of us would be having this conversation. i blame walker for this. what was he thinking?

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at February 23, 2015 10:36 PM (2/oBD)

191 ChristyB, I absolutely love radiant heat! It's like basking in the sun or sitting by the fire -- very soothing and pleasant.

Posted by: Mindy at February 23, 2015 10:36 PM (81V/7)

192 Reminds me of the student chosen to speak at my stepdaughter's commencement for her master's degree. The content of the speech, such as it was, was almost entirely about the speaker's experience of trying to come up with a topic. She shared her thoughts as she was walking to class, and talking to her friends about the speech, and watching TV instead of working on it. She even managed to include a slam against Bush. When she finally got around to sharing the message that was the fruit of all her ruminations, it was something so trite and shallow and unoriginal that it took up 2% of her speech -- something along the lines of "Be yourself."

My lib sister-in-law thought it was an excellent speech, much better than the one at my stepdaughter's high school commencement. (That speaker had a message chock full of encouragement and wisdom and exhortation and congratulations, but he sounded suspiciously conservative.)

My assessment of the airhead's speech: she had excellent diction.

Posted by: Mindy at February 23, 2015 10:33 PM (81V/7)

The only commencement speaker I remember at all was Cookie Monster.

Yes, the muppet.

As commencement speaker.

For a university.

Posted by: C is for ~~cookie~~ crack cocain at February 23, 2015 10:36 PM (0Ew3K)

193 Radiant heat sounds like the work of the Devil.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 10:37 PM (MDgS8)

194 that's right! to be a member of the ruling class you have to be an alumnus of an ivy league university. of course, the rich can afford to send their children to the best prep schools that provide the kind of educational foundation that will get the kids in. in addition, if the kids stray far from the route, their money, connections, and legacy will still guarantee that the kid will get in anyway. ivy league aside, people who attend college, any college, make more money on average then someone with just a high school diploma. in today's job market, the college degree is just expected for most decent jobs. this is all common knowledge. whether a college degree really has actual substance is really a whole different conversation altogether. what is at issue here is why walker didn't just finish his damn degree? he went into politics - the most unforgiving of anything out of the ordinary - yet he didn't bother to finish his degree? he had years upon years to do so. of course it was going to be brought up, and if walker were a democrat, ann coulter would surely have a comment or two to make about him not graduating from college. in an ideal world it shouldn't matter, but this is politics we are talking about here. if he really was serious about being president, he should have just finished his stupid college degree and then none of us would be having this conversation. i blame walker for this. what was he thinking?

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at February 23, 2015 10:36 PM (2/oBD)

The truth about college:

http://bit.ly/1LfQFfd

Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at February 23, 2015 10:38 PM (0Ew3K)

195 I had no idea she could actually sing. I'm probably not alone in this.
Posted by: puddleglum@work at February 23, 2015 10:30 PM (20X6f)

I'm with you.

I thought she was just a Madonna wanna-be. It looks like she's the one with the real talent. Madonna's brilliant at self-promotion, but all those silly cone bras and oversized crucifixes were meant to hide the fact that her music is basically bubble gum/disco and her voice isn't that impressive.

I like some of the things Camille Paglia says, but Paglia never sounds more ridiculous than when she's extolling the brilliant art of the Michigan tart. Well, maybe when the professor is going on about how astrology is true because she's a perfect Aries or something. Paglia is such a jumble of sense and nonsense.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 10:38 PM (+XMAD)

196 The only commencement speaker I remember at all was Cookie Monster.

I had Mr. Rogers.

Thee Mr. Rogers. From the "neighbourhood".

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2015 10:38 PM (doBIb)

197 I read The Catcher in the Rye. I was grieving for my lost brain cells.

Posted by: Weirddave at February 23, 2015 10:30 PM (7TK5d)

I die. OMG, I'm howling ever here.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 10:38 PM (37e3g)

198 Posted by: Mistress Overdone at February 23, 2015 10:36 PM (2/oBD)

Paragraphs and line breaks considered helpful..

Posted by: Maetenloch at February 23, 2015 10:39 PM (pAlYe)

199 I saw Hot Water open for Radiant heat, Charlotte, 1968

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:39 PM (F2IAQ)

200 I had Mr. Rogers.

Thee Mr. Rogers. From the "neighbourhood".

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2015 10:38 PM (doBIb)

Tell me he wore the sweater.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:39 PM (GEICT)

201 For those who do the twitter thing, what tools do you use?

I'm using TweetDeck. I've heard hootsuite is good, too.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 23, 2015 10:39 PM (ZPrif)

202 Am I the only one who know that before the entire GaGa persona, she was a straight laced act that was capable of singing and plying instruments?

Still think her music sucks, though.

Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at February 23, 2015 10:40 PM (0Ew3K)

203 Thank you, Mindy. I was fixing to go cry in my pillow that not even morons will help me. The heat, per realtor thing, is hydro something or other, I guess recycled water.

Good to know. I guess, per my limited research, it has been used for a long time in Europe. Which does not make me jump for joy. I had heard of it, of course, but not around these redneck parts of Floriduh.

I need those qualudes from that ad a week ago on ONT. A big ole case of them. I am not going to make it.

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 10:40 PM (TIGDR)

204 The ONT is slowing down.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 23, 2015 10:40 PM (O0D1Q)

205 Tell me he wore the sweater.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:39 PM (GEICT)
Suit.
But he made everyone sing the song with him.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2015 10:40 PM (doBIb)

206 192 The only commencement speaker I remember at all was Cookie Monster.
Yes, the muppet.
As commencement speaker.
For a university.

Community college is important. So important that it should be "free."

Posted by: Barack "The H is for Harvard" Obama at February 23, 2015 10:40 PM (qyomX)

207 190 if he really was serious about being president, he should have just finished his stupid college degree and then none of us would be having this conversation. i blame walker for this. what was he thinking?
Posted by: Mistress Overdone at February 23, 2015 10:36

Your concern is duly noted.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 23, 2015 10:40 PM (LRyVM)

208 Last good book I read was Chuck Yeager's bio. Reading American Sniper now.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:40 PM (ucDmr)

209 190 .... i blame walker for this. what was he thinking?
Posted by: Mistress Overdone at February 23, 2015 10:36 PM (2/oBD)

I blame you for the death of the paragraph

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 10:41 PM (YOPoU)

210 "Am I the only one who know that before the entire GaGa persona, she was a
straight laced act that was capable of singing and plying instruments?
"

No. But I do like her music.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 23, 2015 10:41 PM (O0D1Q)

211 ChristyB, I absolutely love radiant heat! It's like basking in the sun or sitting by the fire -- very soothing and pleasant.
Posted by: Mindy
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My dad built a house with radiant heat. When I was a kid, padding into the bathroom with bare feet was spectacular. It made you want to lie down on the tile, and take a nap.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:41 PM (F2IAQ)

212 But he made everyone sing the song with him.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2015 10:40 PM (doBIb)

Hahahhaahahahahahahahahahaha

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:42 PM (GEICT)

213 Speaking of people with previously unknown musical depths, never gets old... www.youtube.com/watch?v=MItlvHdoQ-8

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 10:42 PM (yRwC8)

214 The only commencement speaker I remember at all was Cookie Monster.
Yes, the muppet.
As commencement speaker.
For a university.

Community college is important. So important that it should be "free."

Posted by: Barack "The H is for Harvard" Obama at February 23, 2015 10:40 PM (qyomX)

Sadly, it was at one of the top public universities...

Posted by: The Political Hat (@ThePoliticalHat) at February 23, 2015 10:42 PM (0Ew3K)

215 198 Paragraphs and line breaks considered helpful..
Posted by: Maetenloch at February 23, 2015 10:39 PM

Soros didn't pay for those, just a wall of concerned text.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 23, 2015 10:42 PM (LRyVM)

216 190,

Who bitch this is?

Posted by: Tired of Twatwaffling concern trolls at February 23, 2015 10:43 PM (OsWis)

217 If any of you would be so kind to fill me with your knowledge of radiant heat I will share my Dove chocolate with you in the camps. xoxo
Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba ... ok lots of issues with heating and such. I have lived in a house with a boiler and steam/radiator heat. Nice stuff actually. House was built in 1926. The steam vents on the radiators had seized. So I took a drill with a drill bit about 1/8" and drilled into the top of the steam vent located on the side of the radiator. Problem solved. That being said, anytime you monkey with plumbing that is 50+ years old, the pipe thread WILL disintegrate and leak water with the slightest manipulation. Purchased another house directly after, which was heated entirely with electric heat. Sold it and bought the Dream House. Looking back, it was a big mistake because the house with electric heat was on a separate utility. Pot growers would have happily paid 3x for that luxury as the electric rates are substantially lower. Oh, and the electric heat was just fine.

Posted by: Grumpy Old Man at February 23, 2015 10:43 PM (di2Uz)

218 Lady Gaga - Bang Bang: http://youtu.be/-huNrHAou-E

I love love love love the arrangement of this.

And she and Tony Bennett in Lady Is A Tramp:

http://youtu.be/ZPAmDULCVrU

Gah. That gown. *grabby hands*

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at February 23, 2015 10:43 PM (IrByp)

219 195 I like some of the things Camille Paglia says, but Paglia never sounds more ridiculous than when she's extolling the brilliant art of the Michigan tart. Well, maybe when the professor is going on about how astrology is true because she's a perfect Aries or something. Paglia is such a jumble of sense and nonsense.

I'm with you. I suspect she might be a genius, but geniuses are weird. 9 out of 10 times, you'd be better off with "really smart person." But that 10th time, that's when the Einsteins decide to dispense with time because it's in the way.

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 10:43 PM (qyomX)

220 Gaga got engaged recently.

Her boyfriend is delicious.

Posted by: Kt(great) at February 23, 2015 10:44 PM (Bl4dy)

221 mH: Going to Madison for the protest tomorrow? I'm running a drum circle. Tom Fuckin Milborn is in mourning.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:44 PM (ucDmr)

222 if he really was serious about being president, he should have just finished his stupid college degree and then none of us would be having this conversation. i blame walker for this. what was he thinking?

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at February 23, 2015 10:36

It would not surprise me one bit if Walker has been (secretly) finishing up the last few classes for his degree and shows up at commencement in a few months and graduates

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 23, 2015 10:45 PM (4gN5w)

223 203
Thank you, Mindy. I was fixing to go cry in my pillow that not even
morons will help me. The heat, per realtor thing, is hydro something or
other, I guess recycled water.

OK, maybe you mean "hydrothermal"
Not recycled, but heated up by pumping it through loops of pipe in the ground?

Not sure if they do that in FLA

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at February 23, 2015 10:45 PM (LWu6U)

224 220
Gaga got engaged recently.

Her boyfriend is delicious."

Not as delicious as that dress made out of meat she wore that one time.

Posted by: Naes at February 23, 2015 10:47 PM (YhayY)

225 192. Unlikely. Palin has a degree, from Idaho State or something, and "uneducated rube" was still a primary line of attack against her.

Posted by: Weirddave at February 23, 2015 10:47 PM (7TK5d)

226 Last good book I read was Chuck Yeager's bio. Reading American Sniper now.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo
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I keep promoting the book here. Well worth the read. Movie was fine..., but the book is much more comprehensive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:47 PM (F2IAQ)

227 Once Scott Walker left college and went into politics, it would have been tough to finish his degree successfully. Maybe within a couple of years, but the longer he was out in politics the more adversarial his relationships with his professors would be.

You really think he would pass any class taught by a leftie? Once he was a recognized politician? They would fail him as a matter of course.

Posted by: Boots at February 23, 2015 10:48 PM (l9mF2)

228 Hammer so far, the book is awesome. That guy was the real deal.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:48 PM (ucDmr)

229 I grew up in the NE, and most people there use baseboard radiant or steam radiant for older houses.

Radiant is fine, but there are so many variations that it is hard to give advice. You need to find out three things

1. source of heat -- gas boiler? hyrothermal as i said above? other?

2. what type of pipe -- copper? PEX?,...

3. What type of radiator- Baseboard? floor? ,...

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at February 23, 2015 10:49 PM (LWu6U)

230 Hydronic radiant heat in Utah. I think from boiler sending water to floors in rooms. I guess you can control heat from "burning skin from soles of feet" to pleasantly warm as Mike and Mindy mentioned. Soft kitty.

I really don't think I would have been a good pioneer. My mother keeps reminding me to think of my ancestors...who were apparently not as neurotic.

I am not going to make it of sound mind. Not that it was totally always sound, but more Joey B in catatonia.

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 10:49 PM (TIGDR)

231 Radiant heat, is simply pipes, or synthetic hose, run through the flooring or slab (possibly portions of the ceiling). Hot water is supplied by a heater (or boiler) and pumped through the lines.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:50 PM (F2IAQ)

232 I had really way too high expectations for that Gaga singing thing

it was meh

whoever said she was singing contralto-soprano was right - she was all over the place. I was a contralto and would have given my right arm to be a soprano

she was ok. a bit sloppy technically but I guess she was nervous. she kept fiddling with her dress in a weird tic, like pulling on it oddly

our standards have really dropped haven't they?!?!

meanwhile I didn't watch but caught tweets and whatnot and was suddenly hit by how the older actors are staving off age (or trying). do they think they will live forever? it's sort of creepy.

Posted by: BlackOrchidPhotobomb at February 23, 2015 10:50 PM (pS66t)

233 221 mH: Going to Madison for the protest tomorrow? I'm running a drum circle. Tom Fuckin Milborn is in mourning.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:44 PM (ucDmr)

Nah, I'm a working man? How about you?

Sad thing is John Gaard once an up comer republican is supporting the unions.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 10:50 PM (YOPoU)

234 Who gives a flying fuck if Walker has a college degree? I could care less. Some of the stupidest people I've ever met had post secondary degrees. Those degrees mean nothing when it comes to judging competency at a job.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:50 PM (GEICT)

235 114 Lady Gaga made Stefani Germanotta enough money that she can now spend the rest of her life making any kind of music she wants.

She's a talented pianist as well.

She just did an album of standards.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 23, 2015 10:14 PM (DmNpO)

Bob Dylan just released an album of standards, too: "Shadows in the Night". I'm looking forward to hearing it.

https://tinyurl.com/m7e8rau

I haven't bought it yet, because I'm waiting to see if a limited edition is released, with a booklet or a bonus disc or whatnot. That's been the pattern recently.

I'll wait a month or so, then buy the regular CD if there is no limited edition.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2015 10:51 PM (sdi6R)

236 Gaga's fiance is from Lititz PA

home of Wilbur Buds

and there's a cute pretzel factory there

Town's Moravian. Not Amish. I keep getting told. They're like germanic quakers or something.

Posted by: BlackOrchidPhotobomb at February 23, 2015 10:52 PM (pS66t)

237 Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:44 PM (ucDmr)

Protest in Madison? Ah, yeah, it's beautiful weather for a protest, isn't it?

Remember that Buddhist monk who set himself on fire to protest the Vietnam War? Well, I think the Madison crowd should make a similar gesture to show how much they care about the evil budget cuts. Instead of setting themselves on fire, they should get naked and lie down in a snowbank. You know, to really impress the world with the seriousness of the situation.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 10:52 PM (+XMAD)

238 Last good book I read was Chuck Yeager's bio. Reading American Sniper now.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo
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I keep promoting the book here. Well worth the read. Movie was fine..., but the book is much more comprehensive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:47 PM (F2IAQ)

I still wonder what chuck Yeager thinks about the Japanese personified him as a usagi-mimi mahou shoujo mecha musume who flys around in pantsu:

http://strikewitches.wikia.com/wiki/Charlotte_E._Yeager

Posted by: The Neuroi Hat at February 23, 2015 10:53 PM (0Ew3K)

239 John Gaard has turned into a fuckin weenie lobbyist. He is now a total pussy. I have to work too. If right to work passes it will be a bloodbath with all the lefty heads exploding. The D's are talkin about running to Illinois again. Popcorn please.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:54 PM (ucDmr)

240 232: well she impressed the non musicians (like me) who knew very little about Lady Gaga, outside the fact she looked like a circus freak most of the time.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at February 23, 2015 10:54 PM (20X6f)

241 234
Who gives a flying fuck if Walker has a college degree? I could care
less. Some of the stupidest people I've ever met had post secondary
degrees. Those degrees mean nothing when it comes to judging competency
at a job."

More than 60% of the country doesn't have a college degree. The only people who look down on non-graduates are liberals who wouldn't vote for him anyway. It may help him among certain demographics-- the white working class for instance.

Posted by: Naes at February 23, 2015 10:55 PM (YhayY)

242 The D's are talkin about running to Illinois again. Popcorn please.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:54 PM (ucDmr)

Oh, that worked so well for them the first time.

They are really f'ing insane.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 10:56 PM (+XMAD)

243 235 Bob Dylan just released an album of standards, too: "Shadows in the Night". I'm looking forward to hearing it.
Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2015 10:51 PM (sdi6R)

I was in a store this weekend & they were playing something from that over the sound system. It reminded me of Willie Nelson singing stardust: horrific.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 23, 2015 10:56 PM (LRyVM)

244 Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 10:52 PM (+XMAD)

My mid kid and I went round & eound this past weekend about the us system. She's been sucked into the liberal sewer

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 10:56 PM (YOPoU)

245
Yes, anyone paying enough attention to possibly care about Walker's being a class or two shy of a BA will most likely also know he has been a successful executive governor in difficult and hostile situations.

And Dems or independents or Reps who actually care are too dumb to make intelligent voting choices anyway, and those who pretend to care are just looking for an excuse to vote stupidly.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2015 10:56 PM (afQnV)

246 Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 10:49 PM (TIGDR)

Sweet lady, get you some good home owner's insurance and quit worrying about things like radiant heat systems blowing up, and start thinking about important things like the new hair and skincare regimen you will need in that dry desert climate.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 10:56 PM (37e3g)

247 More than 60% of the country doesn't have a college degree. The only people who look down on non-graduates are liberals who wouldn't vote for him anyway. It may help him among certain demographics-- the white working class for instance.

Posted by: Naes at February 23, 2015 10:55 PM (YhayY)

I'm a white male with a post graduate degree. A law degree even! I think it's great that he doesn't have one. I think it's wonderful that we get an example of how hard work and dedication can pay off.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:56 PM (GEICT)

248 234 Who gives a flying fuck if Walker has a college degree? I could care less. Some of the stupidest people I've ever met had post secondary degrees. Those degrees mean nothing when it comes to judging competency at a job.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:50 PM (GEICT)

I for one am sick and tired of the Ivy League cabal that seems to have seized control of the country.

They're not the best and brightest. They only think they are.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2015 10:57 PM (sdi6R)

249 152 Hey Hammer,
Did you catch the news about that double shooting in Biltmore Village this afternoon?

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 23, 2015 10:24 PM (HPePn)

Don't tell me you guys live in Asheville also?

Posted by: Robert at February 23, 2015 10:57 PM (Wo9OY)

250 Crap! If only I had finished college. Things would have turned out differently...

Posted by: Bill Gates at February 23, 2015 10:57 PM (F2IAQ)

251 242: That Dave Hansen from Green Bay is the ringleader. He is effed up in the head. Insane in the membrane.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:57 PM (ucDmr)

252 Christy B, my cousin has radiant heat under the tile in her kitchen in Colorado. She loves it. Never had a problem. I think it's good as long as it is installed properly.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2015 10:58 PM (1000j)

253 Huh, I didn't know that Jeremiah Wright's daughter was convicted of embezzlement, money laundering, and lying to federal agents. Interesting family. :/

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2015 10:58 PM (ZKGnj)

254
242 The D's are talkin about running to Illinois again. Popcorn please.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:54 PM (ucDmr)

Oh, that worked so well for them the first time.

They are really f'ing insane.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing

Last week Fitzgerald said that they couldn't flee

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 10:58 PM (YOPoU)

255 Robert?!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 10:58 PM (37e3g)

256 She's been sucked into the liberal sewer
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 10:56 PM (YOPoU)

Sorry to hear it. But it's not necessarily a permanent condition - I was a lib in my 20's.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 10:58 PM (+XMAD)

257 Don't tell me you guys live in Asheville also?
Posted by: Robert
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Why do you ask?
* reaches in desk drawer for blued metal item *

Posted by: Bill Gates at February 23, 2015 10:58 PM (F2IAQ)

258 @248 - I've been saying for a few years now that we need a moratorium on Harvard in the Executive Branch.

Posted by: JEM at February 23, 2015 10:59 PM (o+SC1)

259 / Gates

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:59 PM (F2IAQ)

260 There's a student at the KU/Kansas State basketball game with a sign that says "YAY!". Not sure he's giving it the ole' college try there.

Posted by: Weirddave at February 23, 2015 10:59 PM (7TK5d)

261 Buzz also co-wrote a sf novel with John Barnes, Encounter With Tiber.

It's not bad.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 23, 2015 10:59 PM (Sgf5Q)

262 ooh earlier when I was at work I saw some interesting comments about a Sidwell/other prep school "power pipeline" - I think that's definitely happening, hopefully on the wane tho . . .

Sidwell/Archmere Power Cabal, lol. It's not the Ivy . . . it's where you went BEFORE . . .

it sounds silly but it may be/have been true!

Posted by: BlackOrchidPhotobomb at February 23, 2015 10:59 PM (pS66t)

263 Oops time for my "stories". BBL if I'm not "busy" after sleepy hollow.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 23, 2015 11:00 PM (LRyVM)

264 Both of these CBB games on ESPN have been very entertaining. I kind of felt bad for GTech. They seem to lose alot of games like tonight.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at February 23, 2015 11:00 PM (20X6f)

265 Huh, I didn't know that Jeremiah Wright's daughter was convicted of embezzlement, money laundering, and lying to federal agents. Interesting family. :/
Posted by: no good deed
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It's called 'The Jesse Jackson Jr. Gambit'
It's all the rage in Chicago these days.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:00 PM (F2IAQ)

266
There's a student at the KU/Kansas State basketball game with a sign that says "YAY!". Not sure he's giving it the ole' college try there.

It's an ironic Yay. Like "Sports!!!!"

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 11:00 PM (MDgS8)

267 Thank you, morons. I long for the days of youth when living in an old home with a century old gas furnace and lead paint on walls did not even enter my thoughts. Now brain is clickety-clack ::danger::

I really need to be more c'est la vie. Earthquakes, no biggie, have lived with freaking hurricanes and potential pythons in toilets for decades. A snake in front hedge. Rats in attic (now daid). Lizards. Mosquitos as large as bats. Palmetto bugs. Charlie Crist. Crazy neighbor who looks Neanderthal. You can do this, ChristyB. Think of mountains and future grandchildren. And real gardens. And husband less whiny about humidity.

Need ancestor's spirit. nopenopenope will not make it.

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 11:00 PM (TIGDR)

268 244: My son and I never talk politics. Ever. My daughter will mention something, and I turn into Sam Kinison because I think there is still hope. I think she does it for entertainment.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 11:01 PM (ucDmr)

269 One of the reasons the snobs are so bothered by Walker's lack of a college degree is because he's been so successful without one, putting the lie to their claims about a college degree being so vital.

Posted by: Working Stiff at February 23, 2015 11:01 PM (B+p2p)

270 Robert - No kidding, are you in A'ville?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:01 PM (F2IAQ)

271 253 Huh, I didn't know that Jeremiah Wright's daughter was convicted of embezzlement, money laundering, and lying to federal agents. Interesting family. :/
Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2015 10:58 PM

Trying to be shocked...stand by...still trying...BZZT!

Nope. Not shocked.

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 11:01 PM (qyomX)

272 Thank you, Infidel. I have always loved your name. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 11:02 PM (TIGDR)

273 269 One of the reasons the snobs are so bothered by Walker's lack of a college degree is because he's been so successful without one, putting the lie to their claims about a college degree being so vital.

The claim is ludicrous in the first place. "College Experience beats life experience" has never made sense, ever.

Walker/Rowe 2016.

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 11:03 PM (qyomX)

274 Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 10:38 PM (+XMAD)

I've never liked Madonna's voice, too nasal. It's like listening to Fran Drescher's The Nanny character sing. Listen to "Material Girl".

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2015 11:03 PM (eLZyM)

275
Need ancestor's spirit. nopenopenope will not make it.

Remember when mold was just......mold.

Now it's HAZMAT!!!!!

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 11:03 PM (MDgS8)

276 257 Don't tell me you guys live in Asheville also?
Posted by: Robert
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Why do you ask?
* reaches in desk drawer for blued metal item *

Posted by: Bill Gates at February 23, 2015 10:58 PM (F2IAQ)

Cause he mentioned the shooting in Biltmore Village, which happened in Asheville today. Was surprised other here as well. Well, technically I don't live *in* Asheville, but just outside of it.

Posted by: Robert at February 23, 2015 11:03 PM (Wo9OY)

277 254: I think Fitzgerald meant it didn't matter what those pussies did this time. It's all for show anyway.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 11:03 PM (ucDmr)

278 Ladies, when you are performing that special act of love on your man. Do try to remember to Honor de Balzac as well.

Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2015 11:03 PM (zt+N6)

279 They're not the best and brightest. They only think they are.
Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2015 10:57 PM (sdi6R)

That's what bothers me.

I'm not a populist. I think America's Founding Fathers were brilliant and they devised a system that worked wonderfully well until the progs started undermining it.

What I take issue with is the idea that these damned leftists hawking ideas which failed over and over again in the 20th century are smart and wise and deserve to run the country.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 11:04 PM (+XMAD)

280 Buzzion, after that comment. You'll love this article. http://tinyurl.com/orvbhy7

Posted by: no good deed at February 23, 2015 11:04 PM (ZKGnj)

281 278 Ladies, when you are performing that special act of love on your man. Do try to remember to Honor de Balzac as well.
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2015 11:03 PM

And me.

Posted by: Dyson at February 23, 2015 11:05 PM (qyomX)

282 270 Robert - No kidding, are you in A'ville?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:01 PM (F2IAQ)

Yep. Erwin Hills / Leicester to be more precise.

Posted by: Robert at February 23, 2015 11:05 PM (Wo9OY)

283
266 There's a student at the KU/Kansas State basketball game with a sign that says "YAY!". Not sure he's giving it the ole' college try there.It's an ironic Yay. Like "Sports!!!!"
Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 11:00 PM (MDgS

Go local athletic program!!

Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2015 11:05 PM (zt+N6)

284 OK, maybe you mean "hydrothermal"
Not recycled, but heated up by pumping it through loops of pipe in the ground?

Not sure if they do that in FLA

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at February 23, 2015 10:45 PM (LWu6U)

They do Geothermal heating and cooling out here in Utah too; is that what you mean? After you get to a certain depth, the ground is a consistent temp year round; so with geothermal when your house gets too hot it pulls cool from the ground to cool things down, and when it gets too cold it pulls heat from the ground to heat your home. Has a larger up front cost but supposedly it's an efficient system, and does pay itself off. People that I know that use it like it.
A coworker put radiant heat coils or whatever they are in her floor, loves it. Where it warms up just the floor you install it in? Hers is a newer system though, no clue what happens if it breaks down.

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 11:05 PM (yRwC8)

285 Survived actual Arts Festival.

Working on Post Arts Festival ...

Posted by: Adriane the Exhausted ... at February 23, 2015 11:06 PM (P+IZm)

286 hey mouth breathers, just one square

Posted by: Sheryl Crow at February 23, 2015 11:06 PM (pIhxB)

287
Go local athletic program!!

That's more Sheldon Cooperish.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 11:06 PM (MDgS8)

288 If humans had eveolved without heads, do you think we would have invented hats? Think about it.

Posted by: otho at February 23, 2015 11:06 PM (tBSrv)

289 Thank you, Tammy. Good points! This is my husband's problem if things blow up. I will focus on which bulbs I will plant in fall. I hope my moisturizers work there. Would rather worry about that than this nonsense. Thank you, honey. My mind is not cut out for complex things like radiant heat coils.

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 11:06 PM (TIGDR)

290 Robert - Holy Toledo. A fellow moron in Asheville, well close enough. Northside here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:07 PM (F2IAQ)

291 Speaking of music, a friend of mine bothered me into watching The Voice tonight.

This happened: http://youtu.be/DLdYN0GmZFE

That kid? He's 15. You only have to watch the first 2 minutes or so.

The look on Adam Levine's face when he realizes an infant is singing like that is grand.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at February 23, 2015 11:07 PM (IrByp)

292
http://strikewitches.wikia.com/wiki/Charlotte_E._Yeager

Posted by: The Neuroi Hat at February 23, 2015 10:53 PM (0Ew3K)

She's not wearing pants, so......moron.

Posted by: Ostral B Heratic at February 23, 2015 11:07 PM (X1rEV)

293 Have you left the friendly confines of Harlingen, or are we welcoming a new Robert in to the fold?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 11:09 PM (37e3g)

294 Mistress Overdone does not strike me as a troll. I think she is just estimating differently from the Horde in general how much of an impact Walker's lack of a degree will have. And it is kind of weird that he was so close and didn't just finish up, but people do all kinds of things that don't make sense to observers.

Even without a degree, Walker is significantly more accomplished than Obama.

Posted by: Mindy at February 23, 2015 11:09 PM (81V/7)

295 291: Alex saw that, that was cool. The Voice kicks AI's ass. Blake is cool.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 11:09 PM (ucDmr)

296 If humans had eveolved without heads, do you think we would have invented hats? Think about it.

Posted by: otho at February 23, 2015 11:06 PM (tBSrv)

What if clothing altered human evolution such that they needed to wear clothing?

Coincedentally the anime KILL La Kill answers this question...

Posted by: HAT La HAT at February 23, 2015 11:09 PM (0Ew3K)

297 The claim is ludicrous in the first place. "College Experience beats life experience" has never made sense, ever.
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"The great thing about having a college degree, is that when things go wrong, you don't spend the rest of your life thinking, "Things would have been different, if only I had a college degree." - Kurt Vonnegut's son

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:09 PM (F2IAQ)

298 Yep, Europe doesn't have a jihadi problem...

http://tinyurl.com/ovcokbs

Posted by: Thrawn at February 23, 2015 11:09 PM (d7XFS)

299 Christie, I grew up with electrical baseboards. It was a good idea in the PNW when the cost of electricity was low. A lot of builders are pushing natural gas.

The radiant heat thing you are talking about sounds like warm water in pipes under the floor and I understand it is nice. If it leaks you can always drain it and put in a heat-pump instead.
While you have it you can call it your "hypocaustis" though. I'd like one just to make that brag.

The jokey suggestion is "don't use long nails to fasten the carpet"

Posted by: Kindltot at February 23, 2015 11:09 PM (t//F+)

300 290 Robert - Holy Toledo. A fellow moron in Asheville, well close enough. Northside here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:07 PM (F2IAQ)

Yeah, we're rarer than hen's teeth 'round these parts where you can't throw a stone without hittin a progressive.

Posted by: Robert at February 23, 2015 11:09 PM (Wo9OY)

301 Sorry to hear it. But it's not necessarily a permanent condition - I was a lib in my 20's.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 10:58 PM (+XMAD)

pics? of boobeh's?

Posted by: #28 moron at February 23, 2015 11:10 PM (pIhxB)

302 Hi Horde. My step-brother died Thursday night. He's been dying of brain cancer for four+ years and it was about time. I won't be going home for the funeral.
I like to think my recently deceased brother-in-law caught up with brother in purgatory and beat the fuck out of him.

Posted by: Gingy at February 23, 2015 11:10 PM (WvS3w)

303 Has there been moron chatter as to what James O'Keefe is up to? Perhaps the world is ending and I won't have to pack dishes? I think he is going to unveil whatever soonish?

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 11:10 PM (TIGDR)

304 293 Have you left the friendly confines of Harlingen, or are we welcoming a new Robert in to the fold?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 11:09 PM (37e3g)

This would be a new Robert. Well, I've posted here a few times before, but not many.

Posted by: Robert at February 23, 2015 11:11 PM (Wo9OY)

305
Hats are basically just head swag.

We would be walking around with shoulder swag.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 11:11 PM (MDgS8)

306 if he really was serious about being president, he should have just finished his stupid college degree and then none of us would be having this conversation. i blame walker for this. what was he thinking?

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at February 23, 2015 10:36

It doesn't make a damn bit of difference who the republican nominee is or what the qualifications are, the press will do everything they can to destroy him/her. So I'm not going to give a crap about whether Walker has a piece of paper. I care about what kind of a leader he is. He has shown leadership in dealing with the adversity of every union thug in the Great Lakes area being out to get him. He has shown that he has the balls to stand up for fiscal responsibility against unions and huge amounts of union money.

With what we've seen with Rudy, Walker, and Jindal, it's nice to see that not all republicans are dickless.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2015 11:11 PM (eLZyM)

307 I'd be very happy with Walker as President, especially if he
signs that right to work legislation. It would show that he cares about
the greater long term good of his state (and the conservative movement) than his own political ambitions. The
tendency is for would-be Republican presidential candidates to play it safe and timid in the
run-up to their candidacy so as to not cause offense.

Posted by: Naes at February 23, 2015 11:11 PM (YhayY)

308 Hi Horde. My step-brother died Thursday night. He's been dying of brain cancer for four+ years and it was about time. I won't be going home for the funeral.
I like to think my recently deceased brother-in-law caught up with brother in purgatory and beat the fuck out of him.

Posted by: Gingy at February 23, 2015 11:10 PM (WvS3w)

Thoughts and prayers

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 23, 2015 11:11 PM (0Ew3K)

309 Thanks for the Ray of Hope Donna.

3 girls. 1 a lib, 1!moderate and my baby a con. I blame my chromosomes

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 11:11 PM (YOPoU)

310 I like the expression on the Marine at the forefront. "Okay, we put our flag on the damn hill. Let's see if those damn Japs try to take it back!"

Posted by: pookysgirl is supposed to be resting at February 23, 2015 11:11 PM (dCUzJ)

311 My mind is not cut out for complex things like radiant heat coils.
Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 11:06 PM (TIGDR)

Of course it isn't darling; otherwise you needn't have gotten married. You were meant for finer things, like making Mr B the Happiest Man on Earth. Let HIM worry about those things, it's what they live for.

Bulbs are my passion, but check out Oriental poppies, too. I need to make a list of things that you couldn't grow in FL that do well in the Mountains.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 11:12 PM (37e3g)

312 Has there been moron chatter as to what James O'Keefe is up to? Perhaps the world is ending and I won't have to pack dishes? I think he is going to unveil whatever soonish?

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 11:10 PM (TIGDR)

Only that he's supposed to drop something big tomorrow.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 23, 2015 11:12 PM (0Ew3K)

313 Yeah, we're rarer than hen's teeth 'round these parts where you can't throw a stone without hittin a progressive.
Posted by: Robert
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Don't give me ideas.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:12 PM (F2IAQ)

314 294 Mistress Overdone does not strike me as a troll. I think she is just estimating differently from the Horde in general how much of an impact Walker's lack of a degree will have.

Posted by: Mindy at February 23, 2015 11:09 PM (81V/7)

No, I don't believe she is. I've seen some good comments by her.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2015 11:13 PM (sdi6R)

315 Let HIM worry about those things, it's what they live for.
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Yup. I'm just not happy unless I'm down in the basement beating on a recalcitrant circulator pump with a pipe wrench. Makes my day, it does.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:14 PM (F2IAQ)

316 Posted by: Gingy at February 23, 2015 11:10 PM (WvS3w)

<3

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 11:14 PM (yRwC8)

317 @299...hypocaustis sounds like a new neurosis to add to my growing number as I age. I am scared to look that up.

I am not going to worry. I am not going to worry. I am not going to worry. Right.

Well, good night you bunch of morons. I love you. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 11:14 PM (TIGDR)

318 I keep promoting the book here. Well worth the read. Movie was fine..., but the book is much more comprehensive.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 10:47 PM (F2IAQ)

Plus money goes to his widow and kids. I'm in the middle of reading "American Sniper" and "Right Ho, Jeeves". I have eclectic tastes.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2015 11:15 PM (eLZyM)

319 Hats are basically just head swag.We would be walking around with shoulder swag.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 11:11 PM

Perhaps. But either way, would we call the chinstrap a chinstrap? I think not.

Posted by: otho at February 23, 2015 11:15 PM (tBSrv)

320 Wow, the blog speeded up. All I did was brush the fangs and wash the face. You are welcome Christy B. The name seems be have become more apropos with time.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2015 11:15 PM (1000j)

321 I am sorry, Gingy. Cancer and long illnesses are tough on families...I have had two loved ones with them. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 11:16 PM (TIGDR)

322 Posted by: Gingy at February 23, 2015 11:10 PM (WvS3w)

Well, what else have they got to do down there but bea each other up?

You should do some sort of weird knitting thing in memoriam.

You could call it "Beating the Fuck Out of Each Other in Purgatory" and sell it for thousands.

If you dyed portions of it with your menstrual blood and documented the entire process on your cellphone, we're talking HUNDREDS of thousands.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 11:16 PM (37e3g)

323 "Right Ho, Jeeves". I have eclectic tastes.
Posted by: nerdygirl
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Pretty sure I have read everything that Wodehouse ever wrote. Funny, funny stuff. Psmith was Psmith before Psaki was Psaki.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:16 PM (F2IAQ)

324 234 Who gives a flying fuck if Walker has a college degree? I could care less. Some of the stupidest people I've ever met had post secondary degrees. Those degrees mean nothing when it comes to judging competency at a job.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2015 10:50 PM (GEICT)

The f**k you say.

Posted by: Bill Gates at February 23, 2015 11:16 PM (eLZyM)

325 Your truly discerning gentleman wears a protective helmet, with chin strap, not a hat.

I only ditched mine because it interfered with getting a good smell of girl hair at ceremonial occasions.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 23, 2015 11:17 PM (qyomX)

326 I think Scott Walker is around my age, and I know a few of my friends who went to larger state schools ended up having to take over 4 years to get their BS or BAs or whatever, it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to get all your credits in in 4 years. You had to go to school in the summers, otherwise I don't know! It seemed pretty crazy.

he probably worked outside of school, worked summers, and was like "ENOUGH of this BS!"

I went to a school with a (paid) co-op program and working just made me want to get the hell away from academe, soonest. I'm sure it was the same for him.

it's not like he went a term and left, he stuck it out. probably he'd have had to take the summer or another semester over 4 years or got screwed when the registration opened or something

Posted by: BlackOrchidPhotobomb at February 23, 2015 11:17 PM (pS66t)

327 Maybe the Brichers were on to something after all...

http://tinyurl.com/o29ch4z

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 23, 2015 11:17 PM (0Ew3K)

328 Gingy sorry to heat about your b-I-l

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 11:18 PM (YOPoU)

329 Alex saw that, that was cool. The Voice kicks AI's ass. Blake is cool.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 11:09 PM (ucDmr)

I thought the guy who sang He Stopped Loving Her Today was going to make Blake cry.

Him not turning for the woman whom he freaking toured with was fantastically funny.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at February 23, 2015 11:18 PM (IrByp)

330 Alex saw that, that was cool. The Voice kicks AI's ass. Blake is cool.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 11:09 PM (ucDmr)

I thought the guy who sang He Stopped Loving Her Today was going to make Blake cry.

Him not turning for the woman whom he freaking toured with was fantastically funny.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at February 23, 2015 11:18 PM (IrByp)

331 322 Posted by: Gingy at February 23, 2015 11:10 PM (WvS3w)

Well, what else have they got to do down there but bea each other up?

You should do some sort of weird knitting thing in memoriam.

You could call it "Beating the Fuck Out of Each Other in Purgatory" and sell it for thousands.

If you dyed portions of it with your menstrual blood and documented the entire process on your cellphone, we're talking HUNDREDS of thousands.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 11:16 PM (37e3g)
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You know, I just don't think so. I already shaved my head to raise money for St. Baldrick's.

Posted by: Gingy at February 23, 2015 11:18 PM (WvS3w)

332 "My son and I never talk politics. Ever. My daughter will mention something, and I turn into Sam Kinison because I think there is still hope. I think she does it for entertainment."

My parents and siblings are intractable. Social conservatives and liberals on everything else.

In 2007 my dad mentioned that Obama's plan was "deficit neutral" IIRC. I told him if he believed that ... he should give Obama some fishes and loaves so he can feed the multitudes. And of all my rough and impolite jokes I ever told, that was my favorite.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 23, 2015 11:18 PM (+4uXG)

333 Ginny, hugs and prayers.

Posted by: Mindy at February 23, 2015 11:19 PM (81V/7)

334 239 John Gaard has turned into a fuckin weenie lobbyist. He is now a total pussy. I have to work too. If right to work passes it will be a bloodbath with all the lefty heads exploding. The D's are talkin about running to Illinois again. Popcorn please.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 10:54 PM (ucDmr)

If right to work can pass in Michigan, the mother of all union states, it can pass anywhere.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2015 11:19 PM (eLZyM)

335 HOOORDE

Good news, everyone! I'm sober enough to lay on the floor without falling off the end of the world. Which is a massive improvement from last night.

Posted by: DC in River City at February 23, 2015 11:19 PM (wcG9Q)

336 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:14 PM (F2IAQ)

I didn't really mean fixing them, per se, but sussing it all out and deciding if it's The Thing they want in their new home.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 11:19 PM (37e3g)

337 319
Hats are basically just head swag.We would be walking around with shoulder swag.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2015 11:11 PM

Perhaps. But either way, would we call the chinstrap a chinstrap? I think not.

Posted by: otho at February 23, 2015 11:15 PM (tBSrv)

For some of us who are melanin- and follicle-challenged, hats are more than head swag.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 23, 2015 11:19 PM (T1005)

338 Some good news: The Palestinian Authority got convicted of funding terrorism and is ordered to pay $200 million. It is now officially on record in federal court that our government gives hundreds of millions of dollars to a convicted terrorist organization. As for the case, there's no real basis why it would be vacated on appeal either since the facts and law were solid and they used the PA's own documents against them. It should strengthen calls in the House and Senate to defund them.

Posted by: Naes at February 23, 2015 11:20 PM (YhayY)

339
Yes, I served in Special Forces at the same time Marie Harf served in the nursing corpse.

Posted by: Robert McDonald, Lyin' VA Asshole at February 23, 2015 11:20 PM (P330y)

340 >>> Plus money goes to his widow and kids.

I love how the media picked up and ran with the story of Taya allegedly skimming funds away from ppl Chris set up funds from his book sales to help; I suspect that will wind up being a nothingburger of a story, or I hope so. She does not strike me as the type of person to screw over other ppl in her situation; she knows their pain.

Whereas there is the juicy story of how scumbag Jesse Ventura and how he sicced a lawsuit against her dead husband on her and her kids, just to stroke his own vendetta driven ego...and the media is crickets. As per usual.

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 11:20 PM (yRwC8)

341 DC, you're letting the side down.

Posted by: Gingy at February 23, 2015 11:20 PM (WvS3w)

342 You know, I just don't think so. I already shaved my head to raise money for St. Baldrick's.
Posted by: Gingy at February 23, 2015 11:18 PM (WvS3w)

You're just no fun any more.

Even more gorgeous, if such a thing is possible, but grown staid and proper.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 11:21 PM (37e3g)

343 my dad mentioned that Obama's plan was "deficit neutral
---
Whaaaa?!
The Huffington Post assured me that it would "reduce the deficit". I mean..., they quoted the WH and everything...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:21 PM (F2IAQ)

344 331
322 Posted by: Gingy at February 23, 2015 11:10 PM (WvS3w)

Well, what else have they got to do down there but bea each other up?

You should do some sort of weird knitting thing in memoriam.

You could call it "Beating the Fuck Out of Each Other in Purgatory" and sell it for thousands.

If you dyed portions of it with your menstrual blood and documented
the entire process on your cellphone, we're talking HUNDREDS of
thousands.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 11:16 PM (37e3g)

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You know, I just don't think so. I already shaved my head to raise money for St. Baldrick's.

Posted by: Gingy at February 23, 2015 11:18 PM (WvS3w)

Was that St. Blackadder's sidekick?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 23, 2015 11:22 PM (T1005)

345 Alex or BC, will there be podcast tomorrow? *she says hopefully, puppy dog eyes*

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 11:22 PM (yRwC8)

346 329: I actually find the Voice entertaining right now. And yes the look on blake's face was hilarious. Everybody on the voice so far has some talent.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 11:22 PM (ucDmr)

347 I didn't really mean fixing them, per se, but sussing it all out and deciding if it's The Thing they want in their new home.
Posted by: Tammy
----------------

Yeah. That's the way it always starts, "Oooo, Aahhh". Then comes the running and the screaming....

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:23 PM (F2IAQ)

348 I for one am sick and tired of the Ivy League cabal that seems to have seized control of the country.

They're not the best and brightest. They only think they are.
Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2015 10:57 PM (sdi6R)

There was an interesting book I read years ago on the grade inflation at universities. I can't remember the name of it. But it basically said that with grade inflation at even the ivy league schools, pretty much everyone gets at least a B. Graduating from these schools no longer means what it once did. They just don't have the same standards that they used to. Look at it this way, Meaghan McCain went to Columbia and she doesn't express herself any better than a high school graduate from 50 years ago.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2015 11:24 PM (eLZyM)

349
Town's Moravian. Not Amish. I keep getting told. They're like germanic quakers or something.
Posted by: BlackOrchidPhotobomb at February 23, 2015 10:52 PM (pS66t)

Think Jan Hus and Zizka. Fighting off the army of the popes and the holy roman empire. Originally Czech, and part of Bohemia.
Actually the Moravians deeply influenced John Wesley when he was sailing out to minister in colonies - and he had time to consider what they told him as he was being shipped back in disgrace.
Interesting, Jan Hus was deeply influenced by John Wycliffe, who was the man behind the Lollard philosophy and one of the thinkers either behind or blamed for the English Peasant Revolt (Wat Tyler and all that)

Posted by: Kindltot at February 23, 2015 11:24 PM (t//F+)

350 That Bill Murray article is pretty disjointed. I liked this though:

JIM GATTIS (Loggers first baseman): We were cold. They called me "The Queen of the Infield" because I wore panty hose.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 11:24 PM (+XMAD)

351 What is being king and queen all about?
Is it about who wears the nicest clothes?
I think not.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 23, 2015 11:24 PM (fIv/H)

352 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:23 PM (F2IAQ)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 23, 2015 11:25 PM (37e3g)

353 344
Was that St. Blackadder's sidekick?
Posted by: cthulhu at February 23, 2015 11:22 PM (T1005)
---
I wish you could have heard the involuntary noise I just made.
I've been watching "A Bit of Fry & Laurie" lately. Can't help but relate him to the Blackadder series.

Posted by: Gingy at February 23, 2015 11:27 PM (WvS3w)

354 Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2015 11:24 PM (eLZyM)

You've provided me with the perfect response to the Walker is a dropout charge: Meghan McCain went to Columbia - do you think she's more qualified than Walker to be president?

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 11:27 PM (+XMAD)

355 Good nite morons
Be well,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, looking for Billy The Mountain at February 23, 2015 11:27 PM (YOPoU)

356 Night MH - Stay warm

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:27 PM (F2IAQ)

357 Mike Collins in Carrying the Fire characterized Buzz Aldrin as a dandy. He listed 10 items of flair he was wearing one night. Like a Phi Beta Kappa pin and even had a Sigma Chi pin (honorary research society).

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2015 11:27 PM (u82oZ)

358 350 JIM GATTIS (Loggers first baseman): We were cold. They called me "The Queen of the Infield" because I wore panty hose.

Good call.

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 11:29 PM (qyomX)

359 Night MH.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 11:30 PM (ucDmr)

360 Gingy, Sorry for your loss.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2015 11:30 PM (eLZyM)

361 nerdygirl at February 23, 2015 11:24 PM (eLZyM)

In fifty years we've gone from teaching Greek and Latin in middle school to teaching remedial English in college.

ht. Somebody who ain't me, but is possibly T. Sowell or M. Friedman.

Posted by: Enby at February 23, 2015 11:30 PM (QP2lF)

362 Alex or BC, will there be podcast tomorrow? *she says hopefully, puppy dog eyes*
Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 11:22 PM (yRwC

Sadly, no.

Once again, life intervened though this time it was not my fault. We're trying to reschedule though.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at February 23, 2015 11:30 PM (IrByp)

363 For some of us who are melanin- and follicle-challenged, hats are more than head swag.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 23, 2015 11:19 PM

Pith helmet or Top Hat? I usually go for the sophisticated, yet adventurous look of the pith, but nothing says "class" like a topper.

Posted by: otho at February 23, 2015 11:31 PM (tBSrv)

364 Statistically, Harvard MBAs have not fared well.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:31 PM (F2IAQ)

365 In fifty years we've gone from teaching Greek and Latin in middle school to teaching remedial English in college.

ht. Somebody who ain't me, but is possibly T. Sowell or M. Friedman.
Posted by: Enby at February 23, 2015 11:30 PM

It's from Joseph Sobran

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 23, 2015 11:31 PM (4gN5w)

366 Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 11:29 PM (qyomX)

Ha! He went on to explain that the other guys on the team wore long underwear to keep warm. He was a slow runner and thought the long underwear wasn't helping. He found pantyhose worked. But of course he was ridiculed.

Hairy men's legs encased in pantyhose cannot be a pretty sight.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 11:32 PM (+XMAD)

367 >>>Yeah. That's the way it always starts, "Oooo, Aahhh". Then comes the running and the screaming....

I have nothing to add, I just think is one of the greatest lines in movie history.

In completely unrelated news, my hotel room is directly across the street from a large office building in Miami. I was getting ready for dinner tonight and didn't close the shades.

I go shower, wander around for a few minutes, and notice a few people in the office across the way. Few more minutes go by, and I see there's a few more people. Finally it dawns on me: I'm walking around naked, and they're gathering a crowd in their office.

So...yeah. Like a good moron, I waved. Then there was maybe a helicopter. Maybe.

Posted by: DC in River City at February 23, 2015 11:33 PM (wcG9Q)

368 NaCly - At the end of the book thread, I mentioned a couple of dirt-cheap sources for John Masters books. Did you catch that?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:33 PM (F2IAQ)

369 Pith helmet or Top Hat? I usually go for the sophisticated, yet adventurous look of the pith, but nothing says "class" like a topper.

Posted by: otho at February 23, 2015 11:31 PM (tBSrv)

One says Indiana Jones, the other says Indiana Jones III.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2015 11:33 PM (FMbng)

370 So are any of you guys Evangelical? I keep hearing about the Evangelicals like its the official religion of the Republican party but I have never met one in my life.

Posted by: bernverdnardo at February 23, 2015 11:33 PM (q2eOc)

371 369: Can't wear either one without a killer monocle.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 11:35 PM (ucDmr)

372 340 >>> Plus money goes to his widow and kids.

I love how the media picked up and ran with the story of Taya allegedly skimming funds away from ppl Chris set up funds from his book sales to help; I suspect that will wind up being a nothingburger of a story, or I hope so. She does not strike me as the type of person to screw over other ppl in her situation; she knows their pain.

What's in the will? If he had intended for money to go to others, he should have had it written up.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2015 11:35 PM (eLZyM)

373 Can't wear either one without a killer monocle.
Posted by: Chavez
--------------

Yeah..., and the topper absolutely *requires* spats.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:36 PM (F2IAQ)

374 Pope Francis wants all us Catholic types to be all evangelizin' and stuff, but joyously.

Posted by: Enby at February 23, 2015 11:36 PM (QP2lF)

375 Some college graduates have gone on to be stupid enough to veto the Keystone XL pipeline. True story. College didn't help at all.

Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2015 11:36 PM (qyomX)

376 Goodnight horde.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at February 23, 2015 11:37 PM (+XMAD)

377 373: and, a nice walking stick and a pocket watch.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 23, 2015 11:37 PM (ucDmr)

378 370
Evangelical is a blanket term. 30% of the country counts as
evangelical protestant but almost none of them identify themselves as
such. They tend to eschew denominational labels other than Christian.
Billy Graham= evangelical.

Posted by: Naes at February 23, 2015 11:37 PM (YhayY)

379 Yeah..., and the topper absolutely *requires* spats.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:36 PM (F2IAQ)

I once heard somebody refer to a fairly tall top hat as a stove pipe.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 23, 2015 11:38 PM (FMbng)

380 Meaghan McCain went to Columbia and she doesn't express herself any better than a high school graduate from 50 years ago.
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 23, 2015 11:24 PM (eLZyM)

In her case I'd be willing to put my money on most high schoolers graduating today.

Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2015 11:41 PM (zt+N6)

381 Evening horde. Is this where I get my white privelege?

Posted by: RWC - Coffee. Yes please. at February 23, 2015 11:42 PM (HKu0W)

382 Slept peaceful last night. No damn bears!! Woohoo!

Posted by: jmel at February 23, 2015 11:43 PM (zoo+u)

383 They do Geothermal heating and cooling out here in Utah too; is that what you mean? After you get to a certain depth, the ground is a consistent temp year round; so with geothermal when your house gets too hot it pulls cool from the ground to cool things down, and when it gets too cold it pulls heat from the ground to heat your home. Has a larger up front cost but supposedly it's an efficient system, and does pay itself off. People that I know that use it like it.
A coworker put radiant heat coils or whatever they are in her floor, loves it. Where it warms up just the floor you install it in? Hers is a newer system though, no clue what happens if it breaks down.
Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 11:05 PM (yRwC

The local newspaper had a story several years ago about a family that had a geothermal system installed, and they made a huge point about how great it was, and how the whole system used about as much electricity as a 100 watt light bulb, and now the family would be paying almost nothing for heating and cooling their house. Being the "progressive" shit rag that it is, it went on about how we all should be installing these systems.

Saw a friend of mine who did some of the work on the house during the retrofit, and I asked him about the $25,000 figure that the newspaper threw out, and he laughed and said that was what they told the city it would cost for the construction permit and the real cost was closer to $75,000.

So, our newspaper thinks paying $75,000 for a HVAC system is better for everyone than $7500 for a conventional HVAC system. It would take almost 25 years to pay for that geotherm system instead of the standard system.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 23, 2015 11:43 PM (+Fae7)

384 Working tonight RWC? Coffee, Imma about ready to hit the hay.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2015 11:43 PM (1000j)

385 So Secretary of Veterans Affairs is toeing the Stolen Valor line.

What a fucking administration.

Posted by: RWC - Coffee. Yes please. at February 23, 2015 11:44 PM (HKu0W)

386 Bernverdnardo, I think I could be classified as an Evangelical, but like a good Evangelical, I'm not much for labeling myself.

Posted by: Mindy at February 23, 2015 11:44 PM (81V/7)

387 Is Evangeline evangelical? Does she evangelize?

Would Evangeline of Everett evangelize? And what she evangelized of then stay evangelical for ever? And if she moved from Everett to the Everglades, would she be switching from Evergreen to Fever dreams? Would a program to disencentivize progressive evangelicals revive our verve to vivify the angels or merely average what that means?

Urp.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 23, 2015 11:44 PM (t//F+)

388 384 Working tonight RWC? Coffee, Imma about ready to hit the hay.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2015 11:43 PM (1000j)

Nah. Laying in bed. Too lazy to change the nic from a couple days ago.

Posted by: RWC - Coffee. Yes please. at February 23, 2015 11:45 PM (HKu0W)

389 Can't wear either one without a killer monocle. Posted by: Chavez -------------- Yeah..., and the topper absolutely *requires* spats.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:36 PM

Yeah, that's true and the pith usually involves knee high boots, which can be a bit dicey on a dance floor. You know what's versatile, though? Bowlers. They go with anything. I can wear the white jumpsuit and doc martins if I want, but just jeans and t-shirt works too.

Posted by: otho at February 23, 2015 11:46 PM (tBSrv)

390 382 Slept peaceful last night. No damn bears!! Woohoo!

Posted by: jmel at February 23, 2015 11:43 PM (zoo+u)

They're gathering their forces.

Be afraid.

Be very afraid.

Posted by: RWC - Coffee. Yes please. at February 23, 2015 11:46 PM (HKu0W)

391 The Marin County DA has a similar case going, except this guy is poor, so he gets to rot in jail while he's being prosecuted

Posted by: Eddie Baby at February 23, 2015 11:47 PM (txJYR)

392 Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny now with MAGIC Jazz Hands at February 23, 2015 11:30 PM (IrByp)

This is me: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oabcM9SOF-E

But I understand about real life getting in the way of all the things. Let us know if we need to unleash the raptors to...make friends and influence people. Also I suspect the Horde has excellent hiding places they know of to stash bodies. Just saying.

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 11:48 PM (yRwC8)

393 But had CAC used the phrase "Throne of Skulls" in his article he would have gotten 1000+ extra points; wasted opportunity!

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 10:14 PM

But he did Liz, right after the second listing of voting stats "throne of skulls".

Posted by: Farmer at February 23, 2015 11:48 PM (o/90i)

394 Continuing:

Bernverdnardo, I go to a non-denominational Christian church. We got the Lutherans, the Methodists, the Baptists, the Catholics, etc. Somehow we all get along.

Posted by: Mindy at February 23, 2015 11:48 PM (81V/7)

395 Evening all. A question for what is left of the Horde tonight....

Is anyone but me seeing prejudicial practices regarding the use of cash as payments? In one day I had the following experiences:

1. Went to pay my cell Bill. That V company informed me that there was now a $2.00 surcharge when paying cash.

2. Also stopped to pay my electric Bill, which I have paid in cash for 13 years every month at the same office. They tried that, but backed down after I bitched.

3. Went to the car wash I have been going to for 4 years, where I but an unlimited monthly wash card. New policy, you had to pay with a credit/debit card, and it would auto Bill unless stopped in the next 30 days. They now could not even sell me this same card I have been buying with cash for a long time. I refused to pull out the plastic, and found another place nearby that would accept that icky paper money.

I am just trying to see if this is a trend others have seen as well. I am mightily annoyed about It at the moment.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 23, 2015 11:48 PM (3F6F8)

396 357 Mike Collins in Carrying the Fire characterized Buzz Aldrin as a dandy. He listed 10 items of flair he was wearing one night. Like a Phi Beta Kappa pin and even had a Sigma Chi pin (honorary research society).
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2015 11:27 PM (u82oZ)

He also carried two huge brass balls.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 23, 2015 11:49 PM (+Fae7)

397 For Gingy & her fambly:

Dear Lord, we're here by Gingy's side, for her strength in love, now in this time of loss and need.

May her Step-Brother have found his way to you in this life, finding eternity with you Lord Jesus, in the next, forevermore.

Even though Lord, there's a gulf of miles between Gingy and her family, we pray your loving embrace and comfort to envelop them all, and that they abide in your peace, that passeth all understanding.

It is in Jesus, that we are found, and saved, and forgiven and loved. May that Holy Spirit of His Love now rest upon Gingy and her house, ease her heart and her pain, and lift her to new joys and heights of blessings in Christ.

And it is in Jesus name, that I pray.

Amen.

/prayer

Okay, that was pinch hitting for Slap. That said, I don't know if his denomination has a DH in the prayer position, but if not, we'll just call this one Inter-league play, allright?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 23, 2015 11:50 PM (RzZOc)

398 Mike Collins. My favourite astronaut.

Posted by: otho at February 23, 2015 11:50 PM (tBSrv)

399 Jim, you're very kind.

Posted by: Gingy at February 23, 2015 11:51 PM (WvS3w)

400 Ummmmmm.....

What the hell is AtC doing up late???

Where should I send flowers?

Posted by: RWC - Coffee. Yes please. at February 23, 2015 11:51 PM (HKu0W)

401 398 Otho

Ditto. What a writer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2015 11:51 PM (u82oZ)

402 Where's everyone finding the Walker article by CAC? I would like to read it.

Posted by: Mindy at February 23, 2015 11:51 PM (81V/7)

403 Monday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/569914092686839808

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/569914265374760960

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/569914895338229761

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/569915241129222144

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/569915700850106368

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/569968073329000449

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/569968248344739842

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/569968411368927232

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/569968571901710337

Posted by: kbdabear at February 23, 2015 11:52 PM (GrXXa)

404
Posted by: Farmer at February 23, 2015 11:48 PM (o/90i)
>.<
Fail. Utter fail. Apparently college degree =/= reading comprehension for me, heh. Thus proving the point about Scott Walker even more.

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 11:52 PM (yRwC8)

405 So, our newspaper thinks paying $75,000 for a HVAC system is better for everyone than $7500 for a conventional HVAC system. It would take almost 25 years to pay for that geotherm system instead of the standard system.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's
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That's probably a fair figure. And, there is another point, they undoubtedly received a subsidy. Virtually all 'alternative energy' schemes are a wealth transfer, from the 'have-nots', to the 'haves'. I always point this out to those who tout such systems.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:53 PM (F2IAQ)

406 Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market

Jesus Paradise at February 23, 2015 11:48 PM (3F6F8

How can they track you if you use cash.

Know your place!

Posted by: RWC - Coffee. Yes please. at February 23, 2015 11:53 PM (HKu0W)

407 398 Otho Ditto. What a writer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2015 11:51 PM

He certainly was. He wrote me a few times when I was a kid. No letter of mine was too retarded for him to reply to. The guy remains my hero. Haven't read his book yet. I gotta get a copy. Good, yeah?

Posted by: otho at February 23, 2015 11:54 PM (tBSrv)

408 363
For some of us who are melanin- and follicle-challenged, hats are more than head swag.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 23, 2015 11:19 PM

Pith helmet or Top Hat? I usually go for the sophisticated, yet
adventurous look of the pith, but nothing says "class" like a topper.

Posted by: otho at February 23, 2015 11:31 PM (tBSrv)

I typically go with a 3" brim floppy hat with a band of ventilated fabric around the sides, with solid fabric covering the bald spot. Can be folded into quarters and packed under everything else in a suitcase, but shades the head, face, and neck. This one, actually -- http://tinyurl.com/q4gr78u

Posted by: cthulhu at February 23, 2015 11:55 PM (T1005)

409 1. Went to pay my cell Bill. That V company informed me that there was now a $2.00 surcharge when paying cash.
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Unless that is/was in your contract, I don't see how they can enforce it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:55 PM (F2IAQ)

410 Is Evangeline evangelical? Does she evangelize?

I imagine she would. She is a nun. A very dangerous nun.

http://www.evangelinethecomic.com/index.html

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 23, 2015 11:56 PM (UVfht)

411 Well, I'm going to call it a day. I'll check in later to see if anyone answered my CAC article question.

Keep the faith!

Posted by: Mindy at February 23, 2015 11:56 PM (81V/7)

412 Confession time....just to get it off my mind.

Herpes. Don't fuck around with it.

Posted by: RWC - Coffee. Yes please. at February 23, 2015 11:56 PM (HKu0W)

413 MWNP, haven't run into that will utilities, have to work during the hours they are open. I use case for everything locally. Although, I live in a non-metro area. I can use cash at the local drive=thru carwash.

I think I pd cash when I bought my phone and the local store.

Posted by: Infidel at February 23, 2015 11:57 PM (1000j)

414 I got a 3 million dollar PSA grant to say that.

Posted by: RWC - Coffee. Yes please. at February 23, 2015 11:57 PM (HKu0W)

415 Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 23, 2015 11:48 PM (3F6F

It's been going on for a while. Twenty years ago the old Garfield and Friends cartoon had an episode where Jon cuts up his credit cards and decides to pay cash. He ends up detained by mall security because no one knows what it is.

It's become easier to simply process credit cards than to make a run to the bank every afternoon.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 23, 2015 11:57 PM (10ydV)

416 NaCly -368?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:57 PM (F2IAQ)

417 Whilst I, too, was at first just 'meh' about Lady Gaga when she first appeared, that changed when I saw her as a musical guest on SNL. She did an open to one of her songs with just her singing and playing the piano and I definitely noticed. She was NOT lip-syncing and both her keyboard skills and voice were more than solid.

So I was not surprised to hear her really do a wonderful job on the 'Sound of Music', and I give props to whoever let her do it. She made it about the music, not her, and if Julie Andrews was floored (and she was!), then who cares what anyone else thought? Lady Gaga has also strongly showed her jazz chops in the duets with Tony Bennett. And he wouldn't be going into the recording studio for the 'cuteness' of working with her. I'm glad she's showing some real muscle in doing other styles of music, because I really think she's got the chops.

Posted by: dwagyak at February 23, 2015 11:57 PM (UvkCK)

418 Yup. I'm just not happy unless I'm down in the basement beating on a recalcitrant circulator pump with a pipe wrench. Makes my day, it does.

Yeah!!! It's like that !!!!

Posted by: Couch Fcuking Man at February 23, 2015 11:57 PM (P+IZm)

419 Mindy!

It is at Federalist, here be linkage: http://tinyurl.com/k4zsvwh

And here's a link to another good Walker article there as a chaser: http://tinyurl.com/p68gkbw

Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2015 11:59 PM (yRwC8)

420
I am just trying to see if this is a trend others have seen as well. I am mightily annoyed about It at the moment.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 23, 2015 11:48 PM (3F6F

There have been actual IRS and other fed prosecutions against business owners who deposit large amounts of cash, or even make small regular deposits of cash. It is the fall out over Chokepoint to strangle illegal businesses and ones that are frowned upon by the administration that regularly use cash transactions.

The idea behind targeting regular small cash deposits are the idea of money launderers getting past the automatic triggers of $3000 cash transactions by breaking it up to smaller deposits spread through time.

It has the added bonus that credit transactions are easily traced where cash transactions are anonymous.

My opinion on this practice could earn me a time out if I engaged in my rage-fury over this invasion and control over my life by the federal leviathan.

Here is an article touching on it
http://fee.org/freeman/detail/deputizing-america

Posted by: Kindltot at February 23, 2015 11:59 PM (t//F+)

421 I typically go with a 3" brim floppy hat with a band of ventilated fabric around the sides, with solid fabric covering the bald spot. Can be folded into quarters and packed under everything else in a suitcase, but shades the head, face, and neck. This one, actually -- http://tinyurl.com/q4gr78u

Posted by: cthulhu at February 23, 2015 11:55 PM

Hmmmm... gotta get you upgraded to a slouch hat. You'd look real dandy in a slouch and a real one can be folded up and packed away too.

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 12:00 AM (tBSrv)

422 351 What is being king and queen all about?
Is it about who wears the nicest clothes?
I think not.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 23, 2015 11:24 PM (fIv/H)

Whoa -- a Valley Girls quote?

Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 24, 2015 12:00 AM (Sgf5Q)

423 395
Evening all. A question for what is left of the Horde tonight....

Is anyone but me seeing prejudicial practices regarding the use of cash as payments? In one day I had the following experiences:

1. Went to pay my cell Bill. That V company informed me that there was now a $2.00 surcharge when paying cash.

2. Also stopped to pay my electric Bill, which I have paid in cash
for 13 years every month at the same office. They tried that, but backed
down after I bitched.

3. Went to the car wash I have been going to for 4 years, where I
but an unlimited monthly wash card. New policy, you had to pay with a
credit/debit card, and it would auto Bill unless stopped in the next 30
days. They now could not even sell me this same card I have been buying
with cash for a long time. I refused to pull out the plastic, and found
another place nearby that would accept that icky paper money.

I am just trying to see if this is a trend others have seen as well. I am mightily annoyed about It at the moment.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 23, 2015 11:48 PM (3F6F

See: Cyprus, bail-in.

If all your money is in digital 1's and 0's, all it takes to skim 20% of your bank account overnight is a computer program. If they have to track you down and make you fork-over greenbacks, it can't just happen -- poof! -- overnight.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 12:02 AM (T1005)

424 g'night, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 24, 2015 12:02 AM (4gN5w)

425 LizLem, thank you kindly for the links!

Off to read and then sleep.

Posted by: Mindy at February 24, 2015 12:03 AM (81V/7)

426 "More than 60% of the country doesn't have a college degree. The only people who look down on non-graduates are liberals who wouldn't vote for him anyway. It may help him among certain demographics-- the white working class for instance."

Walker walked away 3x with the white working class vote.

That's the same vote which didn't reliably show up for the Mittbot 3000.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2015 12:05 AM (noWW6)

427 368 Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Thanks. I went back for your post.

Well, I already have the paperback 'The Road Past Mandalay' and own two hardback copies of 'Bugles and a Tiger, My Life in the Gurkhas'. Plus other Masters books.

I have a well-stocked library in a few areas. But maybe I can share of sell onE of those copies of 'Bugle and a Tiger'.

My e-mail has an underscore between the two parts of my sock, and ksbroadband after the @. Oh, it's a .net after the last d. Being a bit cryptic to foil the bots.

I have three generations of family in NSA -- they know how to find and monitor me. It's all the spam I hate.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2015 12:06 AM (u82oZ)

428 This has recently become one of my very favorite Dylan songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCPrS2nmQfs

(Don't watch the silly video. Just close your eyes and listen.)

I dislike the new YouTube "feature" which goes on to play more videos beyond the one I have selected.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2015 12:07 AM (sdi6R)

429 416 Slow hunt and peck typing, and multi-tasking. Answer in 427. Thanks again

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2015 12:08 AM (u82oZ)

430 395 Evening all. A question for what is left of the Horde tonight....
Is anyone but me seeing prejudicial practices regarding the use of cash as payments? ...

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 23, 2015 11:48 PM (3F6F

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'Depositing Cash' is being discouraged by our current Thugocracy.

Some businesses have had their bank accounts seized by the IRSand money confiscated for the crime of...'making Cash Deposits'.

They've been talking about this on Fox Business.

Even though they win in court and prove they've done nothing wrong...the IRS still does not return all their money.
And they are also out the cost of attorney fees, etc., in fighting it.

"You have to crucify a few to make an example for the rest."
--- This is how Barky's weaponized agencies operate.

So, businesses are 'getting the message' loud and clear.
They are becoming afraid of taking cash...for fear that they will get punished by our overlords.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 12:08 AM (Zc7HF)

431 395 Evening all. A question for what is left of the Horde tonight....

Is anyone but me seeing prejudicial practices regarding the use of cash as payments? In one day I had the following experiences:

...
I am just trying to see if this is a trend others have seen as well. I am mightily annoyed about It at the moment.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 23, 2015 11:48 PM (3F6F

It's been going on for years.

About 10 years ago, a former employee called me and said he needed some help with his rent. He was about 3 months behind, and the apartment complex was threatening to evict him, he was the kind of guy that just seemed to never be able to get his head above water, so I agreed to help him out. I told him I would drop the money off at the landlord's office the next afternoon. The Mrs and I were headed off for a NASCAR weekend, and I had rented an RV for the weekend and went over to the complex's office. I walked in, handed them the cash, and they said they couldn't take it. They didn't accept cash. I then pulled out my checkbook, and they said "no", I needed a money order or cashier's check. So off to the bank in the RV I go to get the cashier's check.

BTW, my company was at that time paying for 8 apartments at that complex for current employees, and we had written checks to cover those with no problem.

I think that the IRS is trying to make cash a thing of the past. Cash is easy to pass around, no paper trail of where it came from. Checks and credit cards? They know exactly where it came from.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 24, 2015 12:10 AM (+Fae7)

432 Night all.

Be safe.

Posted by: RWC - Coffee. Yes please. at February 24, 2015 12:11 AM (HKu0W)

433 If all your money is in digital 1's and 0's, all it takes to skim 20% of your bank account overnight is a computer program. If they have to track you down and make you fork-over greenbacks, it can't just happen -- poof! -- overnight.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 12:02 AM (T1005)

******
I get this, and understand the traceability aspect to this as well. I use mainly cash, as I have a side business of leasing cars to cab companies. They pay me in 100% reported on returns cash each month. The thing I don't get is That there are businesses out there that are willing to lose customers over this practice. I still see gas stations that offer cash discounts, although depressingly few anymore.

As a business owner, I can no it understand the thinking (or not) behind this type of business practice.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 12:11 AM (3F6F8)

434 Mmm. Jazz chops.

Posted by: homer simpson at February 24, 2015 12:14 AM (2KB+E)

435 Doh!

Posted by: homer simpson at February 24, 2015 12:14 AM (2KB+E)

436 407 otho

'Carrying the Fire' is the best non-fiction of the early space program. Period. I've kept upgrading it. I now have the 40th Anniversary edition.

And I have read extensively in that field -- even to Stormy Storm's book about constructing the Saturn V 2nd Stage assembly.

I never wrote Collins because he seems to want privacy and dislikes autograph seekers. I just admire a true professional.

I also spent a lot of time in the Air and Space Museum - in both locations. July 4th, 1976 I spent almost 7 hours in it -- to the despair of my then girlfriend.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2015 12:15 AM (u82oZ)

437 NaCly - What surprises me, is that the books can be purchased for less than the cost of mailing them Media Mail. I mean..., $1.00

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2015 12:17 AM (F2IAQ)

438 Night all. Work starts early tomorrow. Be safe.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2015 12:18 AM (u82oZ)

439 That's probably a fair figure. And, there is another point, they undoubtedly received a subsidy. Virtually all 'alternative energy' schemes are a wealth transfer, from the 'have-nots', to the 'haves'. I always point this out to those who tout such systems.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2015 11:53 PM (F2IAQ)

They did get about a $5K subsidy.

Also, it was one of the most expensive homes on the most expensive street in town.

Nice to know that the guys who mow lawns for a living were able to help pay for their heating/cooling.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 24, 2015 12:21 AM (+Fae7)

440 437 Mike Hammer. The profit is in the shipping and handling. It removes a brick from their inventory.

Let's face it. The new generation is not a book - reading or book storing one. Books are not classy or trendy. I'm a luddite for not having a Kindle.

Now - Taps, Taps. Lights out throughout the house.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2015 12:21 AM (u82oZ)

441 Question for Horde,
Someone posted link a few years ago that General Patton might have been assassinated. Does anyone remember who & when posted?
I learn so much here, really & I'm not being sarcastic, because I watched Patton last night on TCM on demand & spent quite a while of time searching for info on his car accident.

Please use my name when responding. I can search by name on iPad using Mercury browser.

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2015 12:22 AM (sj3Ax)

442 'Carrying the Fire' is the best non-fiction of the early space program. Period. I've kept upgrading it. I now have the 40th Anniversary edition. And I have read extensively in that field -- even to Stormy Storm's book about constructing the Saturn V 2nd Stage assembly. I never wrote Collins because he seems to want privacy and dislikes autograph seekers. I just admire a true professional. I also spent a lot of time in the Air and Space Museum - in both locations. July 4th, 1976 I spent almost 7 hours in it -- to the despair of my then girlfriend.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2015 12:15 AM

Gonna track down a hard copy.

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 12:23 AM (tBSrv)

443 This is serious. My marriage may be in trouble.

I asked my wife to tend the fire when I was out. She did, and didn't totally fail at it, but she went and did the unforgivable.

She burned my poking stick!

I've had that stick for 3 years now. 1/4 inch piece of flat wood, about the size of a ruler. It ~~fits~~ used to fit perfectly right in the slot just inside the fireplace screen. Whenever I needed to poke the fire, it was right there. IT WAS RIGHT THERE! Did I mention I named it? Pokey. It was more dependable than my car. After tonight, I'm thinking that it was more dependable than my wife.

Oh, yea, I've had it for three years now. THREE YEARS!

How the hell can someone even conceive of burning a man's poking stick????

I dunno, 13 years married, house, kids, these things are important, but burning a man's poking stick......shit just got real.

Posted by: Weirddave at February 24, 2015 12:24 AM (WvS3w)

444 Carol - "Killing Patton" posits that he was killed intentionally, I believe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2015 12:24 AM (F2IAQ)

445 WeirDave - Calm down...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2015 12:25 AM (F2IAQ)

446 I want a divorce.

Posted by: Gingy at February 24, 2015 12:25 AM (WvS3w)

447 Wow, we are now in a Chat Room.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 12:26 AM (XrHO0)

448 WewirdDave - Let's consider the really important stuff...., she didn't burn the M1, right?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2015 12:26 AM (F2IAQ)

449 WeirDave - Calm down...

Did I mention that it was my POKING STICK?

Posted by: Weirddave at February 24, 2015 12:27 AM (WvS3w)

450 443...She burned my poking stick!

Is this your way of telling us that your wife is scorching hot?

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 12:27 AM (Zc7HF)

451
Gingy burnt Weirddave's poking stick. Hmmm.

So, we're in a *porn* chat room??

Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2015 12:27 AM (afQnV)

452 I'm sick of this Obama-as-Holden Caulfield shit. This is the best we can do? Obama is not a phlegmatically wry teen from a 1950s novel. He's a rapacious, nation-destroying Leftist. I really despair for our country, as our commentariat (with some rare and brilliant examples) just cannot wrap its collective head around the reality of Obama.

Posted by: rrpjr at February 24, 2015 12:28 AM (s/yC1)

453 ...and when somebody does, like Rudy did, everybody runs from him like he's a smallpox blanket. Pathetic.

Posted by: rrpjr at February 24, 2015 12:30 AM (s/yC1)

454 I'm Gumby, dammit! Not Pokey!!1

Posted by: gumby at February 24, 2015 12:30 AM (2KB+E)

455 >>>Did I mention that it was my POKING STICK?

And she stuck it in the fire??? I hope the reconstructive surgery goes well.

Posted by: DC in River City at February 24, 2015 12:30 AM (wcG9Q)

456
WeirdDave-

Mrs. Hammer once sharpened and used(!) a "Duke's Mayonnaise" wooden pencil that I have had since I was a kid... saved and nurtured for decades. I used to caress it when I was lonely.

But..., a pencil is a pencil..., or as Mrs. Hammer put it, "Get over it!". That's when I found this place.....

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2015 12:31 AM (F2IAQ)

457 I'm sick of this Obama-as-Holden Caulfield shit. This is the best we can do? Obama is not a phlegmatically wry teen from a 1950s novel. He's a rapacious, nation-destroying Leftist. I really despair for our country, as our commentariat (with some rare and brilliant examples) just cannot wrap its collective head around the reality of Obama.
Posted by: rrpjr at February 24, 2015 12:28 AM (s/yC1)

******

We do politics all day, every weekday. Nights and weekends we take a break. Do try to keep up. Otherwise, the Hot air button is always an option.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 12:31 AM (3F6F8)

458 Is this your way of telling us that your wife is scorching hot?
Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 12:27 AM (Zc7HF)

No. That he needs a prescription for penicillin.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 24, 2015 12:32 AM (10ydV)

459 Hit me with your pokey stick!

Posted by: zombie ian dury at February 24, 2015 12:32 AM (2KB+E)

460 I linked this last night, and I can't stop listening to it. John Hartford's "Gentle On My Mind". He's the one who wrote it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbZHIoaapmE

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2015 12:33 AM (sdi6R)

461 450 443...She burned my poking stick!

Is this your way of telling us that your wife is scorching hot?
Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 12:27 AM (Zc7HF)
---
WELL YEAH

Posted by: Gingy at February 24, 2015 12:33 AM (WvS3w)

462 That he needs a prescription for penicillin.
Posted by: Colorado Alex
-----------------

In the old days, when men were men, they used a heated platinum wire.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2015 12:34 AM (F2IAQ)

463 Sounds like someone's getting a nice fireplace set for his birthday.....

Posted by: pookysgirl is supposed to be resting at February 24, 2015 12:35 AM (dCUzJ)

464 Weirddave has a burning sensation in his poking stick?

Dude, go see a doctor, first thing in the morning!

*washes keyboard in isopropyl*

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2015 12:36 AM (RzZOc)

465 This is O'Keefe's new piece. He went after Sharpton.

New York Post @nypost 37m37 minutes ago
Eric Garner's daughter on Al Sharpton: 'He's all about the money' http://nyp.st/1B7f7vg

Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 24, 2015 12:39 AM (ZPrif)

466 Gingy -- How could you?

She's as coaled as ice

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 24, 2015 12:39 AM (Sgf5Q)

467 Dearly Beloved, we are gathered here today to celebrate the life of Pokie. Pokie was a fine stick. Pokie was loyal stick.

Pokie made an ash of himself sometimes, but he forged a bond with those around him.

Pokie will be missed.

Posted by: jc at February 24, 2015 12:40 AM (iRJ+A)

468 * shuffles off to brush teeth *
*gives fireplace a wide birth *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2015 12:40 AM (F2IAQ)

469 Now Weirddave, when your wife burned your pokey stick ... how did that make you feel?

Posted by: Bob Newhart ... at February 24, 2015 12:40 AM (P+IZm)

470 jc at February 24, 2015 12:40 AM (iRJ+A)

How can you make jokes at a time like this!?!?111

Wierddave sounds really treed off!

Posted by: Eve Arh Greene at February 24, 2015 12:43 AM (P+IZm)

471
rrpjr, the country's not currently brimming over with brains, seriousness, courage, or responsibility in the political class or the horse-holding side industry of commentary. But you've probably already noticed that.

On the bright side, and to violently change topics from Dave's burnt "poking stick", it's darkly amusing that the F-35 program is finally starting to worry its supposed customers (side bar item about Navy). Marines, Australians, and Canadians already are quietly seething - in some quarters - about the aircraft that's not needed, doesn't fit the mission requirements, and will empty the defense budget.

And with that, my best wishes for Gingy and Dave overcoming The Burning Stick Incident, and off to ponder my next bullet order and watch my one hour of weekly idiot box .....

Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2015 12:43 AM (afQnV)

472 457...We do politics all day, every weekday. Nights and weekends we take a break. Do try to keep up. Otherwise, the Hot air button is always an option.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 12:31 AM (3F6F

-----------

Uh...he was just commenting on what Maetenloch posted above.

So are you complaining about Maet's post?
Or are you just singling out rrpjr for a scolding?

And who made you thread police?

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 12:43 AM (Zc7HF)

473 >>>Did I mention I named it? Pokey. It was more dependable than my car.<<<

I know how you feel, man. I know how you feel.

Posted by: Gumby at February 24, 2015 12:45 AM (OVx7B)

474
OK, signing off, but caught the thing about O'Keefe/Sharpton.

(sound of balloon slowly emptying)

Sharpton? All kudos to O'Keefe, a lone young guy trying to do the work formerly done by 10s of thousands of journalists. But. Sharpton? Who gives a f**k about that repellent, patheticcriminal POS?

Oh well.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2015 12:45 AM (afQnV)

475 465 This is O'Keefe's new piece. He went after Sharpton.
New York Post @nypost 37m37 minutes ago
Eric Garner's daughter on Al Sharpton: 'He's all about the money'
http://nyp.st/1B7f7vg

Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 24, 2015 12:39 AM (ZPrif)

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Excellent.
I hope he named names and kicked butt.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 12:48 AM (Zc7HF)

476 I get this, and understand the traceability aspect to this as well. I use mainly cash, as I have a side business of leasing cars to cab companies. They pay me in 100% reported on returns cash each month. The thing I don't get is That there are businesses out there that are willing to lose customers over this practice. I still see gas stations that offer cash discounts, although depressingly few anymore.

As a business owner, I can no it understand the thinking (or not) behind this type of business practice.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 12:11 AM (3F6F

Those under about 25 are used to electronic payments, those 25 to 45 are used to using debit/credit cards, those 45-60 are used to checks/credit/debit cards, and those over 60 using checks/cash. Not every one, but those are the ways that they started paying for things when they first started earning money.

Go into any grocery store today, and very few people pay in cash or checks, it's all debit/credit cards (or WIC/SNAP).

Why do the businesses discourage cash? Simple. No trips to the bank. Employees can't stick their fingers in the till. It cuts down on the number of "sweep" accounts that companies need to take cash/checks from one store to the head office.

Also, less cash on hand means less chance of robbery.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 24, 2015 12:49 AM (+Fae7)

477 Sharpton all about the money? You don't say. This seems like Lloyd Christmas when he saw the "Man Walks on Moon" headline.

Yet, O' Keefe likes to drip these stories out, so we'll see.

Posted by: Dave S. at February 24, 2015 12:50 AM (UvR6d)

478 Uh...he was just commenting on what Maetenloch posted above.

So are you complaining about Maet's post?
Or are you just singling out rrpjr for a scolding?

And who made you thread police?
Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 12:43 AM (Zc7HF)

******

Uummmm...so much straw there, so little time to burn it all.

Please point out and define where I did....any of the things you mentioned. Also, being accused of being a thread cop by someone who is acting as a thread cop is pretty hilarious.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 12:51 AM (cIoI4)

479 I dunno, 13 years married, house, kids, these things are important, but burning a man's poking stick......shit just got real.
Posted by: Weirddave at February 24, 2015 12:24 AM (WvS3w)

Dude, you need to teach her a lesson. Withhold all sex from her for a month, that'll teach her.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 24, 2015 12:52 AM (+Fae7)

480 367 I'm walking around naked, and they're gathering a crowd in their office.
So...yeah. Like a good moron, I waved. Then there was maybe a helicopter. Maybe.
Posted by: DC in River City at February 23, 2015 11:33 PM

But you refuse to give the 'ettes a HEADLESS torso shot from which you can't be identified. Asshole.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 24, 2015 12:54 AM (LRyVM)

481 Joan Rivers was snubbed at the Oscars for one reason one reason only. Her epic defense of Israel from July when TMZ interviewed her. She called out the palestinians, the darlings of Hollywood, and she called out CNN, the only channel they watch. The Academy put out a statement about the "many worthy artists" as if they ran out of room. Not buyin' it.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at February 24, 2015 12:58 AM (rldyO)

482 Jim,
That was a beautiful prayer.
I received vis USPS priority mail today & think it's because of blizzards & unnamed snow package from Copperas Cove Chamber of Commerce. Chamber is only one that will send info.
My older brother wasn't feeling good today & I opened but did not share with him.

I liked it, Marble Falls & Blanco from your list.

Marble Falls & Blanco homes are more expensive, please email me if I am wrong.

The hated, by most of us, Chambers are only ones that will send me an email.
Thank you!!

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2015 12:59 AM (sj3Ax)

483 http://tinyurl.com/p73p5to

Fun news about the Defense budget: They want us to pay for base housing on top of our Basic Allowance for Housing. Right now base housing rent = BAH, but the formula will be base housing = BAH + 6%. Yeah, I'm sure this will save tons of money as the base houses are emptied and the members of the military will have to pay extra in housing and commute costs wherever they manage to find an apartment.

/AF wife rant

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 01:05 AM (dCUzJ)

484 443
This is serious. My marriage may be in trouble.

I asked my wife to tend the fire when I was out. She did, and didn't totally fail at it, but she went and did the unforgivable.

She burned my poking stick!

I've had that stick for 3 years now. 1/4 inch piece of flat wood, about the size of a ruler. It fits
used to fit perfectly right in the slot just inside the fireplace
screen. Whenever I needed to poke the fire, it was right there. IT WAS
RIGHT THERE! Did I mention I named it? Pokey. It was more dependable
than my car. After tonight, I'm thinking that it was more dependable
than my wife.

Oh, yea, I've had it for three years now. THREE YEARS!

How the hell can someone even conceive of burning a man's poking stick????

I dunno, 13 years married, house, kids, these things are important, but burning a man's poking stick......shit just got real.

Posted by: Weirddave at February 24, 2015 12:24 AM (WvS3w)

I, personally, understand your hurt and pain. This object, that you have grown to encompass in your behavior over years of adaptation -- developing strengths against its weaknesses, and relying on its steady presence -- is now gone.

But I would encourage you to accept its loss and move onward -- 'cause when you get into a "you broke my X and it broke my heart" flap with your better half, it ain't gonna end well.

See if you can parlay it into something quick, unusual, and fun -- then raise a glass in its honor and get past it.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:07 AM (T1005)

485 478...Please point out and define where I did....any of the things you mentioned.

Very well...

You said, to rrpjr, in your post at #457:

We do politics all day, every weekday. Nights and weekends we take a break. Do try to keep up. Otherwise, the Hot air button is always an option.

Maetenloch's most excellent thread tonight, leads off with a political subject...and continues with juicy tidbits of *other* political subject matter.
But yet, you chose to scold rrpjr for "doing politics"...even though our host has not "taken a break" as you claim that "we" do on nights and weekends.

Perhaps you meant "Do try to keep up" as a term of endearment, rather than in a scolding way?
If so, then...I am sorry for misunderstanding.

There are several comments throughout the commenting tonight, where people have dared to speak of politics.
So it would appear that the collective "we" that you used does not include everyone who comments here.

And as far as me assuming the position of 'thread police'...no.
I leave that up to our host.
I was just asking you some simple questions about your confusing comment.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 01:07 AM (Zc7HF)

486 "Fun news about the Defense budget: They want us to pay for base housing on top of our Basic Allowance for Housing."

Listen, these F-35s aren't going to buy themselves.

Now fork over the cash.

Posted by: Lockheed Martin Corporation at February 24, 2015 01:10 AM (noWW6)

487 480
367 I'm walking around naked, and they're gathering a crowd in their office.

So...yeah. Like a good moron, I waved. Then there was maybe a helicopter. Maybe.

Posted by: DC in River City at February 23, 2015 11:33 PM

But you refuse to give the 'ettes a HEADLESS torso shot from which you can't be identified. Asshole.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 24, 2015 12:54 AM (LRyVM)

HAHAHAHAHaHaHahahaha!!! You done just got zinged!

[Sobs quietly to myself that I've met so many 'ettes and none seem remotely interested....]

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:11 AM (T1005)

488 Mrs. Hammer once sharpened and used(!) a "Duke's Mayonnaise" wooden pencil that I have had since I was a kid... saved and nurtured for decades. [bold]I used to caress it when I was lonely[/bold].

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2015 12:31 AM

OK, you've share quite enough for tonight. Can we get back to Gingy burning Dave's "pokey stick" and whether he needs reconstructive surgery?

j/k I have old stuff from my younger days the wife wants to get rid of. I seldom agree.

You know those red/white/blue striped bellbottoms I have from college might be worth something someday, yeah?

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 01:13 AM (o/90i)

489 And as far as me assuming the position of 'thread police'...no.
I leave that up to our host.
I was just asking you some simple questions about your confusing comment.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 01:07 AM (Zc7HF)

*****

The rrjr post you mentioned bemoaned our lack of taking the political seriously in this thread. I simply pointed out that we do that in other threads, lotso them. Is this really so hard to figure out? As to your denial of thread cop status....yeah, I wasn't either. You see, this is true because I said so my very own self.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 01:14 AM (cIoI4)

490 488
Mrs. Hammer once sharpened and used(!) a "Duke's Mayonnaise" wooden
pencil that I have had since I was a kid... saved and nurtured for
decades. [bold]I used to caress it when I was lonely[/bold].

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2015 12:31 AM

OK, you've share quite enough for tonight. Can we get back to Gingy
burning Dave's "pokey stick" and whether he needs reconstructive
surgery?

j/k I have old stuff from my younger days the wife wants to get rid of. I seldom agree.

You know those red/white/blue striped bellbottoms I have from college might be worth something someday, yeah?

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 01:13 AM (o/90i)

Y'know, those bellbottoms might be worth quite a bit when you get to where you can fit in 'em.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:14 AM (T1005)

491 O'Keefe's piece doesn't seem that big a deal .. but I already knew Sharpton was a crook. It doesn't have any proof of anything. It's just a bunch of black people involved with the Garner and Brown and Trayvon situation talking about Sharpton and badmouthing him and saying he's all about the money. So it's the people Sharpton claims he represents saying, Oh, yeah, everybody knows he's a crook just trying to get his money.

I guess the impact is it's not white Repubs saying it but black Democrats, and they were saying it in private. Some of them will be upset their private disdain for Sharpton is now public.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 24, 2015 01:16 AM (ZPrif)

492 487 [Sobs quietly to myself that I've met so many 'ettes and none seem remotely interested....]
Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:11 AM (T1005)

Yeah, I know the fiancée. NOT crossing her!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 24, 2015 01:16 AM (LRyVM)

493 'Say an admiring word about Steve Jobs and he'll swear that there are four-year-olds working 169 hours a week in Chinese sweatshops producing iPods at the point of a bayonet.'

This has been proven pretty much right.

For the price you overpay Apple products, you would expect at least that they are produced in USA.

Posted by: fromabroad at February 24, 2015 01:21 AM (rnV3B)

494 Good Night Horde,
Although I haven't been on ONT unless by accident.
I've been awake since 3:45 or 3:54. It's nine minutes.

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2015 01:21 AM (sj3Ax)

495 BAH may not seem like a big deal, but it's just the tip of the iceberg of what the DoD is proposing. And troop morale is playing the part of the Titanic-no one besides Pooky in his shop is talking about being in for life right now. Not good.

And torquewrench, LMC can kiss my shiny metal ass. They didn't build Pooky's plane or ever provide the bend-over-backwards support that a certain other aviation company has.

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 01:22 AM (dCUzJ)

496 Here's a question: do any of y'all have any experience with heat exchangers? I just put one in my fireplace (where my best pal Pokey went to die) last week. Basically, it's a replacement for the grate you build the fire on. It's a grate, but it's made out of hollow steel tubes. At one end is a fan that sucks air in from the room, runs the it through the tubes where it gets heated up, and then exhausts it back into the room, theoretically heating the room. It works, the air from the exhaust port is hot enough that you can't hold you hand in it for more than a couple of seconds, but the room isn't appreciably warmer (or maybe it is, the room has 12 foot ceilings and it's 9 degrees outside, maybe I'm expecting too much)

Posted by: Weirddave at February 24, 2015 01:23 AM (WvS3w)

497 489...The rrjr post you mentioned bemoaned our lack of taking the political seriously in this thread.

I didn't read it that way.

rrpjr said:
"I really despair for our country, as our commentariat (with some rare and brilliant examples) just cannot wrap its collective head around the reality of Obama. "

I took this as referring to our political commentators...the ones who are published and/or get paid for it.
Not the commenters here.

But I can't speak for him/her.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 01:23 AM (Zc7HF)

498 492
487 [Sobs quietly to myself that I've met so many 'ettes and none seem remotely interested....]

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:11 AM (T1005)

Yeah, I know the fiancee. NOT crossing her!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 24, 2015 01:16 AM (LRyVM)

Nobody even wants a pin-up...... http://tinyurl.com/lza9oco

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:25 AM (T1005)

499 493 For the price you overpay Apple products, you would expect at least that they are produced in USA.
Posted by: fromabroad at February 24, 2015 01:21 AM

They've tried. Cost prohibitive due to all the government over regulation.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 24, 2015 01:25 AM (LRyVM)

500 Joan Rivers was snubbed at the Oscars for one reason one reason only. Her epic defense of Israel from July when TMZ interviewed her. She called out the palestinians, the darlings of Hollywood, and she called out CNN, the only channel they watch. The Academy put out a statement about the "many worthy artists" as if they ran out of room. Not buyin' it.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at February 24, 2015 12:58 AM

Didn't realize the Academy put out an answer to why she was left out. She was certainly in several movies, meant more to the masses than some of the marketing execs they showed, but she didn't toe the line. Maybe her biting red carpet humor pissed off too many.

RIP Joan, she was fun. Reinvented herself after Carson kicked her to the curb, a true survivor.

Till she went to the wrong doctor, beware. Have your loved ones involved if you get any surgery at an older age.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 01:26 AM (o/90i)

501 496 Here's a question: do any of y'all have any experience with heat exchangers?

Have one in our fireplace, WeirdDave.

It sort of works, it blows out some hot air.
But like your situation...thereis ahigh vaulted ceiling in that room.
So it's got to work very hard to overcome that.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 01:27 AM (Zc7HF)

502 Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:25 AM (T1005)

That one's pretty good! I like how they captured your looming side.

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 01:28 AM (dCUzJ)

503 Nobody even wants a pin-up...... http://tinyurl.com/lza9oco
Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:25 AM (T1005)

Oh great. If I'm lucky I'll only have nightmares tonight rather than go insane. Damned elder gods!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 24, 2015 01:28 AM (LRyVM)

504 Say an admiring word about Steve Jobs and he'll swear that there are four-year-olds working 169 hours a week in Chinese sweatshops producing iPods at the point of a bayonet.'

This has been proven pretty much right.

For the price you overpay Apple products, you would expect at least that they are produced in USA.
Posted by: fromabroad at February 24, 2015 01:21 AM (rnV3B)

*****_

Oh, really? Simple math tells us that there are only 168 hours in a week. I do admire the wiggle room you left yourself with the "pretty much" though.

Kudos, much room left to Voxsplain blathering factual errors in statements. *Golf clap*

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 01:29 AM (XrHO0)

505 496
Here's a question: do any of y'all have any experience with heat
exchangers? I just put one in my fireplace (where my best pal Pokey went
to die) last week. Basically, it's a replacement for the grate you
build the fire on. It's a grate, but it's made out of hollow steel
tubes. At one end is a fan that sucks air in from the room, runs the it
through the tubes where it gets heated up, and then exhausts it back
into the room, theoretically heating the room. It works, the air from
the exhaust port is hot enough that you can't hold you hand in it for
more than a couple of seconds, but the room isn't appreciably warmer (or
maybe it is, the room has 12 foot ceilings and it's 9 degrees outside,
maybe I'm expecting too much)

Posted by: Weirddave at February 24, 2015 01:23 AM (WvS3w)

Normal fireplaces work in a couple of modes -- first, all the heat goes up the chimney, including room heat, so things actually get colder. Second, some of the heat of combustion is absorbed by the structure of the chimney, but a great deal goes up the chimney -- so the room is heated by radiation from the hot bricks.

You've introduced a third model -- heat is extracted from the firebox and blown into the room. The thing is, if convection is still taking most of the heat up the chimney (and sucking in warm room-air with it), you can still be getting colder. Further, it's going to take longer for the bricks to warm up and start re-radiating.

You need to run a fireplace for a while before it breaks-even, and even longer for it to be a solid contribution toward home heat. The heat exchanger flattens that, but doesn't fundamentally change it.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:32 AM (T1005)

506 I didn't read it that way.

rrpjr said:
"I really despair for our country, as our commentariat (with some rare and brilliant examples) just cannot wrap its collective head around the reality of Obama. "

I took this as referring to our political commentators...the ones who are published and/or get paid for it.
Not the commenters here.

But I can't speak for him/her.
Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 01:23 AM (Zc7HF)

******
Of course you didn't read it that way, although it sure seemed to me like you were trying to speak for them in their absence.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 01:33 AM (cIoI4)

507 Y'know, those bellbottoms might be worth quite a bit when you get to where you can fit in 'em.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:14 AM

What do you mean...when I'm old and skinny in the nursing home?

They wouldn't fit now, but to tell the truth I'm only about 20 lbs heavier that I was then.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 01:34 AM (o/90i)

508 503
Nobody even wants a pin-up...... http://tinyurl.com/lza9oco

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:25 AM (T1005)

Oh great. If I'm lucky I'll only have nightmares tonight rather than go insane. Damned elder gods!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 24, 2015 01:28 AM (LRyVM)

Since you've met me IRL, just photoshop that with cthulhu at Disneyland.....

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:35 AM (T1005)

509 508 Since you've met me IRL, just photoshop that with cthulhu at Disneyland.....
Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:35 AM (T1005)

Bwaaahhh now I have mentally placed that tentacled pinup climbing the Matterhorn in liederhosen, yodeling

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 24, 2015 01:38 AM (LRyVM)

510 Since you've met me IRL, just photoshop that with cthulhu at Disneyland.....

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:35 AM (T1005)

"Awwww, let's take a picture with the horrible monstrosity! Ok, kids, say 'ftagn!'"

"FTAGAAAHHHHHHH!" *slurp*

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 01:40 AM (dCUzJ)

511 Oh great. If I'm lucky I'll only have nightmares tonight rather than go insane. Damned elder gods!
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 24, 2015 01:28 AM

Somehow that just created a craving for calamari here.

I love some good tentacle nicely fried food. I suspect cthultu is rather tough compared to squid though, being an elder god and all.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 01:42 AM (o/90i)

512 502
Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:25 AM (T1005)

That one's pretty good! I like how they captured your looming side.

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 01:28 AM (dCUzJ)

Why, thank you!

There's an interesting connection with this, the machining comments, and experimentation with CNC.

So our front door has a door-knocker that we haven't changed since we bought the house in 1997. It is engraved with the name of the family that remodeled the house in 1986, "Graves". Some years back, the fiancee was lamenting that the front door needed repainting (since done), and I noted that we needed a Cthulhu-themed door-knocker engraved with "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". She said, "go ahead".

Well, I know it's going to come as a complete shock to you all -- but I have been unable to locate a suitable commercially available door-knocker with that description. So I've been sidling crab-wise into it, gaining tools and techniques to be able to make it happen. Just today, I drilled out a 1/2" hole in cast iron.

That cthulhu door-knocker is going to happen.....

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:47 AM (T1005)

513 Oh, really? Simple math tells us that there are only 168 hours in a week. I do admire the wiggle room you left yourself with the "pretty much" though... Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 01:29 AM

Reminds me, that dufus Kruger is now being sued by VT for his billings, after they fired him for working on their heath care system.

He billed 500 hrs in a month for his assts work. Turns out he had one asst on it and they would have to work 125 hrs a week on the project to justify that billing.

Not only is he a leftist that disdains the American public, he also a academic crook! But I repeat myself.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 01:48 AM (o/90i)

514 Well, I just watched 2001 a space odyssey front to back for the first time. I'm pretty sure I'm poorer for the experience. My single question is...what the fuck???

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 01:48 AM (FMbng)

515 506...Of course you didn't read it that way, although it sure seemed to me like you were trying to speak for them in their absence.

Unlike *you*, who took it upon himself to speak for...all of us here...and told rrpjr to basically 'go away'.

I see now that you read that comment as some sort of slam against the commenters here.
I didn't read it that way.

It looked to me like he/she was simply commenting on the Kevin D. Williamsonpiece about 'declaring that Chris Hayes and Obama are like Holden Caulfield'.

I read it as a lament, on how easy our professional "commentariat" is on Obama and his drooling thrawls.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 01:49 AM (Zc7HF)

516 If any of you would be so kind to fill me with your
knowledge of radiant heat I will share my Dove chocolate with you in the
camps. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 23, 2015 10:17 PM (TIGDR)

If you are talking about radiant heat, as in heated floors, it is wonderful. Gas boiler heats water, it is circulated by a pump through a maze of PEX tubing in the floor, and back to the boiler. No dust, no drafts, just comfy warmth, and no cold feet. My garage has a heated floor, and I like it fine.

Great deal if you are building new. Very costly to add to an existing house.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2015 01:51 AM (7kjId)

517 You need to run a fireplace for a while before it breaks-even, and even
longer for it to be a solid contribution toward home heat. The heat
exchanger flattens that, but doesn't fundamentally change it.

I get what you're saying. I actually knew all that, but you've put it plainly. To get maximum efficiency from the heat exchanger, I should run the fireplace with the glass doors closed to minimize heat suck up the chimney from the room.

Which inhibits some of the enjoyment I get from "sitting in front of an open fire". It's a trade off.

Posted by: Weirddave at February 24, 2015 01:52 AM (WvS3w)

518 Well, I know it's going to come as a complete shock to you all -- but I have been unable to locate a suitable commercially available door-knocker with that description.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:47 AM (T1005)

Did you try Etsy at all? I mean, I'm all for making things yourself, but if there ever was a place to buy such a thing, I'm guessing Etsy would be it.

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 01:52 AM (dCUzJ)

519 509
508 Since you've met me IRL, just photoshop that with cthulhu at Disneyland.....

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:35 AM (T1005)

Bwaaahhh now I have mentally placed that tentacled pinup climbing the Matterhorn in liederhosen, yodeling

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 24, 2015 01:38 AM (LRyVM)

It's a small world, after all; it's a small world, after all; it's a small world, after all; it's a small, small world....

It's a world of madness, a world of fear; it's a world where unsettling dimensions draw near; there's no place left to hide, when Yog-Sothoth's inside, it's a small world after all!

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:52 AM (T1005)

520 Reminds me, that dufus Kruger is now being sued by VT for his billings, after they fired him for working on their heath care system.

He billed 500 hrs in a month for his assts work. Turns out he had one asst on it and they would have to work 125 hrs a week on the project to justify that billing.

Not only is he a leftist that disdains the American public, he also a academic crook! But I repeat myself.
Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 01:48 AM (o/90i)

***
Under this Administration, he is likely to get many upcoming HHS contracts.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 01:53 AM (XrHO0)

521 514 Well, I just watched 2001 a space odyssey front to back for the first time. I'm pretty sure I'm poorer for the experience. My single question is...what the fuck???

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 01:48 AM (FMbng)

---------

That was your first time to watch it?

Yeah, even when I saw it as a kid...I thought it was kind of slow and boring.
And I loved, absolutely loved, most anything that had to do with Space or Space Travel.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 01:54 AM (Zc7HF)

522 518
Well, I know it's going to come as a complete shock to you all -- but I
have been unable to locate a suitable commercially available
door-knocker with that description.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:47 AM (T1005)

Did you try Etsy at all? I mean, I'm all for making things yourself,
but if there ever was a place to buy such a thing, I'm guessing Etsy
would be it.

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 01:52 AM (dCUzJ)

I found a couple of places that would do it for 4 figures.....but noplace where it was "off-the-shelf" for small 3's.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:55 AM (T1005)

523 Well, I just watched 2001 a space odyssey front to back for the first time. I'm pretty sure I'm poorer for the experience. My single question is...what the fuck???
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 01:48 AM

Imagine watching this on my first "date" when it was first released. Just NOT a good idea.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 01:56 AM (o/90i)

524 517
You need to run a fireplace for a while before it breaks-even, and even

longer for it to be a solid contribution toward home heat. The heat

exchanger flattens that, but doesn't fundamentally change it.

I
get what you're saying. I actually knew all that, but you've put it
plainly. To get maximum efficiency from the heat exchanger, I should run
the fireplace with the glass doors closed to minimize heat suck up the
chimney from the room.

Which inhibits some of the enjoyment I get from "sitting in front of an open fire". It's a trade off.

Posted by: Weirddave at February 24, 2015 01:52 AM (WvS3w)

You have to get combustion air from someplace. If you're getting it from a 65-degree room and sucking in 9-degree air from outside somewhere (especially from random leaks and drafts in other rooms), you're not doing yourself any favors.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:58 AM (T1005)

525 Maybe you have to be on really good drugs to enjoy '2001 A Space Odyssey'.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 01:58 AM (Zc7HF)

526 521
514 Well, I just watched 2001 a space odyssey front to back for the
first time. I'm pretty sure I'm poorer for the experience. My single
question is...what the fuck???

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 01:48 AM (FMbng)

---------

That was your first time to watch it?

Yeah, even when I saw it as a kid...I thought it was kind of slow and boring.

And I loved, absolutely loved, most anything that had to do with Space or Space Travel.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 01:54 AM (Zc7HF)

It's more like a tone-poem than an exposition. Large parts of it are only meant to be beautiful.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:59 AM (T1005)

527 523
Well, I just watched 2001 a space odyssey front to back for the first
time. I'm pretty sure I'm poorer for the experience. My single question
is...what the fuck???

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 01:48 AM

Imagine watching this on my first "date" when it was first released. Just NOT a good idea.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 01:56 AM (o/90i)

Could be worse......Dangerous Liasons as a date movie -- we rode back glued to opposite sides of the car.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 02:01 AM (T1005)

528 hi all

yeah, 2001 really isn't traditional sci-fi. but it is rather good I thought.

Posted by: chemjeff at February 24, 2015 02:01 AM (9GG/0)

529 Maybe you have to be on really good drugs to enjoy '2001 A Space Odyssey'.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 01:58 AM (Zc7HF)

Note to self: If leg pain becomes unbearable this week, grab some pain meds and test wheatie's hypothesis.

For science!

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 02:02 AM (dCUzJ)

530 528
hi all

yeah, 2001 really isn't traditional sci-fi. but it is rather good I thought.

Posted by: chemjeff at February 24, 2015 02:01 AM (9GG/0)

I loved 2001 when it came out and I'm still rather fond of it today.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 02:04 AM (T1005)

531 The great thing about 2001 is that they got the sounds RIGHT. The scene where Bowman has to jump from the pod into the airlock? Absolutely silent until the atmosphere starts to form in the airlock. Spot on. And terrifying, much more so than some Star Trek BOOM(everyonefalloutoftheirchair) effect.

Posted by: Weirddave at February 24, 2015 02:04 AM (WvS3w)

532 506...Of course you didn't read it that way, although it sure seemed to me like you were trying to speak for them in their absence.

Unlike *you*, who took it upon himself to speak for...all of us here...and told rrpjr to basically 'go away'.

I see now that you read that comment as some sort of slam against the commenters here.
I didn't read it that way.

It looked to me like he/she was simply commenting on the Kevin D. Williamsonpiece about 'declaring that Chris Hayes and Obama are like Holden Caulfield'.

I read it as a lament, on how easy our professional "commentariat" is on Obama and his drooling thrawls.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 01:49 AM (Zc7HF)

*****

OK. If we are going to go the dog with a bone route, which seems to he the hill you would like to pixellatedely die on, I told the poster of this Oh So long ago post to either look at the day time during the week threads, or hit another forum.

In other words, what many do here when random commenters bitch about what Ace decide to post about. You, however, seem to have chosen this one topic and make it a personal quest where this is everyday ordinary stuff day time. May I ask why you are all over this bone?

Cuz, you know, I have watched your own Ette self tell random posters about content the same thing I mentioned about this long ago post we are bantering about.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 02:07 AM (3F6F8)

533 That was your first time to watch it?

Yeah, even when I saw it as a kid...I thought it was kind of slow and boring.
And I loved, absolutely loved, most anything that had to do with Space or Space Travel.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 01:54 AM (Zc7HF)

I saw it a dozen or so times in bits and pieces. I would come in at the middle and see it to the end, or see it from the beginning and lose interest, or watch the middle, etc etc. I figured maybe, just maybe I need to watch it completely to get it. Yeah, didn't make it any better. It seemed like a decent story about a computer killing off the crew sandwiched between a boring beginning and a really weird useless ending. I have nooo clue what that ending was about. He's in a pod, has a little acid trip, then he's a 100 year old dude snacking out in king Louis XVI bed room while staring at a 10,000 year old dude laying in bed who turns into a fetus.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 02:08 AM (FMbng)

534 526...It's more like a tone-poem than an exposition. Large parts of it are only meant to be beautiful.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:59 AM (T1005)

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Ah.
Okay...so I was right then, you need good drugs to enjoy it.

Seriously though, the scary monkeys are scary and start killing other monkeys...because?
Because they were exposed to that creepy obelisk thingy.

Then the big super smart computer goes nuts and kills off all the astronauts...because?
Well, they didn't really tell us 'why' yet in the first movie.
So I thought...creepy obelisk thingy strikes again!

But yeah, there were some pretty colors to look at, and some nice Space scenes.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:09 AM (Zc7HF)

535 that's Grandpa Fetus to you, sonny

Posted by: Grandpa Fetus at February 24, 2015 02:10 AM (9GG/0)

536 Well, I just watched 2001 a space odyssey front to back for the first time. I'm pretty sure I'm poorer for the experience. My single question is...what the fuck???

Sorry for your loss of two and a half hours. I've been warning the uninitiated for years- 2001 A Space Odyssey is among the worst movies ever made.

No plot, no character development, no meaningful dialog, no redeeming qualities at all except for the visuals. It's a 30 minute art project needlessly padded to over 2 hours.

Anyone who claims to have liked the movie is either lying (because they thought they were supposed to like it), was stoned, or didn't actually watch it from beginning to end.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:12 AM (X9Mnx)

537 532...May I ask why you are all over this bone?

Hey man...you're the one who keeps flogging it.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:12 AM (Zc7HF)

538 Which inhibits some of the enjoyment I get from "sitting in front of an open fire". It's a trade off.
Posted by: Weirddave at February 24, 2015 01:52 AM (WvS3w)

You have to get combustion air from someplace. If you're getting it from a 65-degree room and sucking in 9-degree air from outside somewhere (especially from random leaks and drafts in other rooms), you're not doing yourself any favors.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 01:58 AM

Haven't had a fire in the fireplace for yrs, need to get the chimney cleaned. Do you know how hard it is to find a good chimneysweep today?

Ahh, maybe I should email Lady Gaga?

But when did a fire, when very cold here in IL, you tend to sit next to it as Dave says and it does keep you warmer. Just some primal thing about a ire.

We have a small family room we tend to stay in. Shut the door and get a fire going it warms up.

Too many widows and one bay window. My corner right now is 56, just turned on the space heater and it told me that.

Guess the alcohol was keeping me warm till now.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 02:13 AM (o/90i)

539 531
The great thing about 2001 is that they got the sounds RIGHT. The scene
where Bowman has to jump from the pod into the airlock? Absolutely
silent until the atmosphere starts to form in the airlock. Spot on. And
terrifying, much more so than some Star Trek
BOOM(everyonefalloutoftheirchair) effect.

Posted by: Weirddave at February 24, 2015 02:04 AM (WvS3w)

Kubrick got so much right.....even though it was excruciating to film.

For example, there's a bit where Dave and Frank are having breakfast and reviewing the news on their tablet computers......except that tablet computers wouldn't exist for another 30 years, and they had to use film projectors embedded in the tables to back-project on their screens.

Similarly, many of the "people doing things" in windows in space were individual projectors showing loops while the overall scene was filmed.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 02:16 AM (T1005)

540 I loved 2001 when it came out and I'm still rather fond of it today

No you didn't, because that is impossible.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:16 AM (X9Mnx)

541 Could be worse......Dangerous Liasons as a date movie -- we rode back glued to opposite sides of the car.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 02:01 AM

LMAO, now I have to make a note to IMDB this tomorrow.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 02:18 AM (o/90i)

542 Hey man...you're the one who keeps flogging it.
Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:12 AM (Zc7HF)

*****

Well, that is just first rate logic right there. I am flogging by not agreeing with you.

How did I know you were an Ette? This .

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 02:19 AM (cIoI4)

543 537
532...May I ask why you are all over this bone?

Hey man...you're the one who keeps flogging it.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:12 AM (Zc7HF)

Guys are all about flogging a particular bone.....NTTAWWT.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 02:20 AM (T1005)

544 ok good night all

and remember... if you tell your computer to do something and it refuses, that means it's about to go psychotic on you

Posted by: chemjeff at February 24, 2015 02:20 AM (9GG/0)

545 538...Haven't had a fire in the fireplace for yrs, need to get the chimney cleaned. Do you know how hard it is to find a good chimneysweep today?

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 02:13 AM (o/90i)

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Chimneysweep?

Uh...how often do you need to "get the chimney cleaned"?
And how do you know if yours is in need of a cleaning?

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:21 AM (Zc7HF)

546 Anyone who claims to have liked the movie is either lying (because they thought they were supposed to like it), was stoned, or didn't actually watch it from beginning to end.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:12 AM (X9Mnx)

yeah well, I just watched it beginning to end with a righteous Frankenstein forehead buzz and it didn't help.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 02:21 AM (FMbng)

547 >>>Reminds me, that dufus Kruger is now being sued by
VT for his billings, after they fired him for working on their heath
care system.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 01:48 AM (o/90i)<<<

You mean Gruber?

*squawk* Polly gotta eat *whistle* *squawk*

Posted by: Gruber's Parrots at February 24, 2015 02:23 AM (OVx7B)

548 536
Well, I just watched 2001 a space odyssey front to back for the first
time. I'm pretty sure I'm poorer for the experience. My single question
is...what the fuck???

Sorry for your loss of two and a half hours. I've been warning the
uninitiated for years- 2001 A Space Odyssey is among the worst movies
ever made.

No plot, no character development, no meaningful dialog, no
redeeming qualities at all except for the visuals. It's a 30 minute art
project needlessly padded to over 2 hours.

Anyone who claims to have liked the movie is either lying (because
they thought they were supposed to like it), was stoned, or didn't
actually watch it from beginning to end.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:12 AM (X9Mnx)

I should point out that there are some broad hints in the early going -- tapirs (native to the Americas and Southeast Asia) and proto-humans (Africa) give a certain tongue-in-cheek flavor -- even before the famous bone/space-station 4-million-year jump cut.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 02:24 AM (T1005)

549 540
I loved 2001 when it came out and I'm still rather fond of it today

No you didn't, because that is impossible.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:16 AM (X9Mnx)

Why do you say that? I certainly believed it when I said it.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 02:25 AM (T1005)

550 It works, the air from the exhaust port is hot enough that you can't hold you hand in it for more than a couple of seconds, but the room isn't appreciably warmer (or maybe it is, the room has 12 foot ceilings and it's 9 degrees outside, maybe I'm expecting too much)

If you don't have one, put in a ceiling fan- it makes a world of difference.

My house is old and drafty, so I installed a ventless gas fireplace. It puts out a lot of heat, but there was a huge temperature differential between the ceiling and couch level.

An $80 ceiling fan made a huge difference.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:26 AM (X9Mnx)

551 540 I loved 2001 when it came out and I'm still rather fond of it today

No you didn't, because that is impossible.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:16 AM (X9Mnx)

You're going to argue impossibilities with someone named "cthulhu"? Good luck with that!

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 02:29 AM (dCUzJ)

552 Well, Date Movies and Date Movies. A Clockwork Orange worked out pretty well for me; datee was down with it. What a relationship that turned into.

Caligula, ISYN. Honestly, I had no idea. No, no, a thousand times no.

The very worst was "Marriage of Maria Braun." "The" Fassbinder fillum. So it's over and we're walking to the car and she goes like, I'm not sure I understood everything that happened there. So I go, you kind of have to see it as an allegory. Postwar Europe, relationship with the US, and all. And she slaps her ice cream cone into her forehead, and That. Was. That.

Could be worse. My parents, in their late 40's, started double-dating with a good-friends couple, just to get out of the house for a change. His Mrs would choose the movies, based on reviews in leading magazines of what was new and really good. That's how four overweight, church-going, conventional midwesterners got subjected to Bob, Carol, Ted, Alice, and Carnal Knowledge.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2015 02:30 AM (xq1UY)

553 542 Hey man...you're the one who keeps flogging it.
Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:12 AM (Zc7HF)

*****
Well, that is just first rate logic right there. I am flogging by not agreeing with you.

How did I know you were an Ette? This .

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 02:19 AM (cIoI4)

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Nuh, nuh naw...not havin it.

Agree with you?
When did I ask that you agree with me?

Because I didn't.

I actually could care less if you 'agree' with me.
You know what you did.

You took it upon yourself to speak for all of us here, in trouncing on a commenter upthread...telling them that "we don't talk politics at night".
When nothing could be further from the truth.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:30 AM (Zc7HF)

554 Why do you say that? I certainly believed it when I said it.

I say that because it is too terrible a movie for any sane, sober person to remotely enjoy from beginning to end.

Plot? Fuck that, let's show 12 fucking minutes of a spaceship floating by.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:32 AM (X9Mnx)

555 Chimneysweep?

Uh...how often do you need to "get the chimney cleaned"?
And how do you know if yours is in need of a cleaning?
Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:21 AM

Every so often. When it needs it.

OK I have no idea. But if you use it will build up creosote lining the chimney and can catch on fire if you leave a smoldering fire going that sends up a spark.

Anyone who knows more than me is free to correct this. I just know the boss won't let me light a fire until the chimney is cleaned.

I can do it once in a while, but I'm not tempting fate lately. Might have a line on a chimneysweep, we shall see.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 02:32 AM (o/90i)

556 Plot? Fuck that, let's show 12 fucking minutes of a spaceship floating by.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:32 AM (X9Mnx)

Not to mention another 10 minutes of the little space ball in the docking bay that moved like old people fuck.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 02:35 AM (FMbng)

557 545
538...Haven't had a fire in the fireplace for yrs, need to get the
chimney cleaned. Do you know how hard it is to find a good chimneysweep
today?

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 02:13 AM (o/90i)

----------

Chimneysweep?

Uh...how often do you need to "get the chimney cleaned"?

And how do you know if yours is in need of a cleaning?

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:21 AM (Zc7HF)

In all seriousness, here's the deal. If you light small, occasional fires that don't heat up the entire chimney -- then light, waxy combustion products will go up your chimney and condense on the walls.

If you have large, roaring, multi-day fires, then all that crap will drip down into your ash-bed and be consumed. But repeated little half-assed fires will line your chimney. A Dura-Flame log two or three times a week is just about perfect.

And once enough waxy, oily crap has coated the walls of your chimney, you may experience a chimney fire (sometimes called a creosote fire in your chimney). These can be very bad -- not least because the porous mortar may act as a wick and be subject to the highest temperatures of the flame -- which can break down the mortar and make your chimney structurally unsound.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 02:36 AM (T1005)

558 I loved 2001 when it came out and I'm still rather fond of it today.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 02:04 AM

2001 is an experience. It's not something that can be approached like a regular cinema flick. There's a lot going on, but, it makes little attempt to give it you. If you're not picking stuff up from it, just sit back and immerse yourself in the stream.

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 02:36 AM (tBSrv)

559 554...Plot? Fuck that, let's show 12 fucking minutes of a spaceship floating by.

Hah. ...But there are creepy obelisk thingys!
So that supposed to be like, profound, or something.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:37 AM (Zc7HF)

560 I can do it once in a while, but I'm not tempting fate lately. Might have a line on a chimneysweep, we shall see.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 02:32 AM (o/90i)

Hopefully they passed the "Chim Chim Cher-ee" part of their licensure.

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 02:38 AM (dCUzJ)

561 552
Well, Date Movies and Date Movies. A Clockwork Orange worked out pretty
well for me; datee was down with it. What a relationship that turned
into.

Caligula, ISYN. Honestly, I had no idea. No, no, a thousand times no.

The
very worst was "Marriage of Maria Braun." "The" Fassbinder fillum. So
it's over and we're walking to the car and she goes like, I'm not sure I
understood everything that happened there. So I go, you kind of have to
see it as an allegory. Postwar Europe, relationship with the US, and
all. And she slaps her ice cream cone into her forehead, and That. Was.
That.

Could be worse. My parents, in their late 40's, started
double-dating with a good-friends couple, just to get out of the house
for a change. His Mrs would choose the movies, based on reviews in
leading magazines of what was new and really good. That's how four
overweight, church-going, conventional midwesterners got subjected to
Bob, Carol, Ted, Alice, and Carnal Knowledge.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2015 02:30 AM (xq1UY)

OK, you've got me beat. But, seriously, any great affection for the opposite sex after "Dangerous Liasons"? Errrrrrrr, no.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 02:39 AM (T1005)

562 Reminds me, that dufus Kruger is now being sued by VT for his billings, after they fired him for working on their heath
care system.
Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 01:48 AM (o/90i)

You mean Gruber?
*squawk* Polly gotta eat *whistle* *squawk*
Posted by: Gruber's Parrots at February 24, 2015 02:23 AM

TY, yes Gruber. I'm an idiot and this wine is very tasty tonight.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 02:39 AM (o/90i)

563 I have an airtight woodstove. It's great. Added a heat exchanger in the flue, called "Magic Heat," and it just about doubled the heat output. It has a little cleaning scraper built in, and anything it's picking up falls right back into the firebox baffles.

I take it out and clean it in the off-season, but the only time there was much buildup was when it went maybe 5 seasons with no attention at all. In 20 years I've given it one replacement fan motor, and that was cheap and easy.

Some of those exhaust-pipe rigs that go under the fire have options for drawing outside air, or a fan-box and flex tube to direct the heat. Both worth trying. Obviously, as a stover, I'm convinced fireplaces are a near total loss, but hey.

There's an amusing episode in a Lord Peter novel of rural English cottage dwellers going after a totally-clogged chimney by discharging a shotgun up it. Classic.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2015 02:40 AM (xq1UY)

564 554
Why do you say that? I certainly believed it when I said it.

I say that because it is too terrible a movie for any sane, sober person to remotely enjoy from beginning to end.

Plot? Fuck that, let's show 12 fucking minutes of a spaceship floating by.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:32 AM (X9Mnx)

It's like a tone poem in music -- you can't dance to it, but it's pretty.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 02:40 AM (T1005)

565 You took it upon yourself to speak for all of us here, in trouncing on a commenter upthread...telling them that "we don't talk politics at night".
When nothing could be further from the truth.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:30 AM (Zc7HF)

******

One final time, and I am typing slowly, to be....helpful.

I spoke for myself only. That was clear.

Said poster from way the hell upthread was unhappy with the fact that the ONT was not sufficiently *Serious enough!* for these times.

They were corrected, which I have watched you do real time as well.

So, again, why are you gnawing on this bone?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 02:40 AM (XrHO0)

566 You took it upon yourself to speak for all of us here, in trouncing on a commenter upthread...telling them that "we don't talk politics at night".
When nothing could be further from the truth.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:30 AM (Zc7HF)

******

One final time, and I am typing slowly, to be....helpful.

I spoke for myself only. That was clear.

Said poster from way the hell upthread was unhappy with the fact that the ONT was not sufficiently *Serious enough!* for these times.

They were corrected, which I have watched you do real time as well.

So, again, why are you gnawing on this bone?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 02:40 AM (cIoI4)

567 Okay...thanks Farmer and cthulhu.

I think we're probably okay then.
We use the fireplace sporadically...because we're in Oklahoma, and it doesn't get really cold that often.

The times we have used it, we build hot, blazing fires.
We use the same wood in it that we keep on hand for our meat smoker, which is very dried out and has been seasoned for at least a year.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:42 AM (Zc7HF)

568 >>>TY, yes Gruber. I'm an idiot and this wine is very tasty tonight.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 02:39 AM (o/90i)<<<

Understandable. That cockholster is a nightmare.

Posted by: Freddy Krueger at February 24, 2015 02:43 AM (OVx7B)

569 2001 was the first movie to make me physically angry- not for the content, but because it was so mind-numbingly boring and awful.

Being a pop culture icon I thought it must have SOMETHING of value, but I was wrong. It was predictable when there should have been tension (yeah, we got it 15 minutes ago- the ape learned how to use a club).

Plot, characters, character development, dialog- these things make a movie. 2001 had none of those things. Just nice visuals for the day set to classical music. It was like a Michael Bay film without semblance of a plot.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:44 AM (X9Mnx)

570 552 Well, Date Movies and Date Movies. A Clockwork Orange worked out pretty well for me; datee was down with it. What a relationship that turned into.

Caligula, ISYN. Honestly, I had no idea. No, no, a thousand times no.

The very worst was "Marriage of Maria Braun." "The" Fassbinder fillum. So it's over and we're walking to the car and she goes like, I'm not sure I understood everything that happened there. So I go, you kind of have to see it as an allegory. Postwar Europe, relationship with the US, and all. And she slaps her ice cream cone into her forehead, and That. Was. That.

Could be worse. My parents, in their late 40's, started double-dating with a good-friends couple, just to get out of the house for a change. His Mrs would choose the movies, based on reviews in leading magazines of what was new and really good. That's how four overweight, church-going, conventional midwesterners got subjected to Bob, Carol, Ted, Alice, and Carnal Knowledge.
Posted by: Stringer Davis

Worst ever date movie OF ALL TIME, bar none?

"Salo," by Pasolini.

Makes "Bob, Carol, Ted, Alice", and "Carnal Knowledge" look like episodes of Mr. Rogers Neighborhood.

Salo is a nonstop orgy (literally -- an actual 4-day orgy) of rape, eating shit, torture, eating razor blades, more torture, gay rape, mindless sadism, eating more shit, and then everybody dying.

All in the name of promoting (wait for it) communism!

For some reason, this was promoted as a hip artsy-fartsy film for repertory theatres.

It was the only film I've ever been to in which THE ENTIRE audience walked out of the theatre. When the lights finally came up, there were only three people left in their seats: Me, the person I was with, and homeless bum who had passed out in his own vomit.

All all the attendees that evening, the person who fared the best was the vomit-covered bum, because at least he was unconscious for most of the film, while the rest of us had our psyches irrevocably scarred for life.

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2015 02:45 AM (K4YiS)

571 I guess for a movie made in 1968 it showed some pretty far out stuff. A lot of weird shit too. Flight attendants that walked like Papillon with a load in his pants, food that looked like baby shit, proto occupy protestors, a chunk of black granite countertop causing shit in the solar systems, and a space ship that looked like a baseball on a stick that was no more than a flying garage for the stupid space balls.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 02:45 AM (FMbng)

572 566...So, again, why are you gnawing on this bone?

He says, with bone in hand and his teeth marks all over it.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:45 AM (Zc7HF)

573 On the other hand, Event Horizon was frigging killer.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 02:51 AM (FMbng)

574 570
552 Well, Date Movies and Date Movies. A Clockwork Orange worked out
pretty well for me; datee was down with it. What a relationship that
turned into.

Caligula, ISYN. Honestly, I had no idea. No, no, a thousand times no.

The very worst was "Marriage of Maria Braun." "The" Fassbinder
fillum. So it's over and we're walking to the car and she goes like, I'm
not sure I understood everything that happened there. So I go, you kind
of have to see it as an allegory. Postwar Europe, relationship with the
US, and all. And she slaps her ice cream cone into her forehead, and
That. Was. That.

Could be worse. My parents, in their late 40's, started
double-dating with a good-friends couple, just to get out of the house
for a change. His Mrs would choose the movies, based on reviews in
leading magazines of what was new and really good. That's how four
overweight, church-going, conventional midwesterners got subjected to
Bob, Carol, Ted, Alice, and Carnal Knowledge.

Posted by: Stringer Davis

Worst ever date movie OF ALL TIME, bar none?

"Salo," by Pasolini.

Makes "Bob, Carol, Ted, Alice", and "Carnal Knowledge" look like episodes of Mr. Rogers Neighborhood.

Salo is a nonstop orgy (literally -- an actual 4-day orgy) of rape,
eating shit, torture, eating razor blades, more torture, gay rape,
mindless sadism, eating more shit, and then everybody dying.

All in the name of promoting (wait for it) communism!

For some reason, this was promoted as a hip artsy-fartsy film for repertory theatres.

It was the only film I've ever been to in which THE ENTIRE audience
walked out of the theatre. When the lights finally came up, there were
only three people left in their seats: Me, the person I was with, and
homeless bum who had passed out in his own vomit.

All all the attendees that evening, the person who fared the best
was the vomit-covered bum, because at least he was unconscious for most
of the film, while the rest of us had our psyches irrevocably scarred
for life.

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2015 02:45 AM (K4YiS)

Wait -- you say "the person I was with".....was this a date?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2015 02:51 AM (T1005)

575 566...So, again, why are you gnawing on this bone?

He says, with bone in hand and his teeth marks all over it.
Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:45 AM (Zc7HF)

******

I'll take that as an "I give, you were right." Lol.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 02:52 AM (XrHO0)

576 2001 was the first movie to make me physically angry- not for the content, but because it was so mind-numbingly boring and awful. Being a pop culture icon I thought it must have SOMETHING of value, but I was wrong. It was predictable when there should have been tension (yeah, we got it 15 minutes ago- the ape learned how to use a club). Plot, characters, character development, dialog- these things make a movie. 2001 had none of those things. Just nice visuals for the day set to classical music. It was like a Michael Bay film without semblance of a plot.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:44 AM

I get that. I can't say that you're wrong. But, it blew me away when it first came out. I didn't understand any of it and I didn't care. Seeing that on the big screen at that time was something special. Until 2001 scifi space movies were rudimentary affairs by comparison, even classics like Forbidden Planet. 2001 took me into space. I put together what was going on later. I love it, but, I understand why people hate it. Also, 2001 is something that needs to be viewed on a cinema screen. I rarely bother to watch it even on wide screen tv, unless I'm showing to someone who hasn't seen it before.

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 02:52 AM (tBSrv)

577
"They were corrected..."

How condescending.

As someone just reading the tread you have to admit its a bit Gaga top heavy.

Posted by: Case at February 24, 2015 02:53 AM (jhRZ+)

578 But, I just can't quite bring myself to admit it....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 24, 2015 02:53 AM (cIoI4)

579 573 On the other hand, Event Horizon was frigging killer.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 02:51 AM (FMbng)

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You liked Event Horizon?

It started out great...but then, damn, talk about the stuff that nightmares are made of.
*shudders*

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:54 AM (Zc7HF)

580 Wait -- you say "the person I was with".....was this a date?
Posted by: cthulhu

When I am vague, the vagueness is intentional!

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2015 02:55 AM (K4YiS)

581

When I am vague, the vagueness is intentional!

Personally, I thought you were being abstract, or intellectual, or oblique, or something.

Posted by: Arbalest at February 24, 2015 02:57 AM (FlRtG)

582 Going back some years, but it was so bad, you'll have to share. I got an additional bill from the house insurer because I had a woodstove. I demanded they come out and inspect it (because, they hadn't), so I could show them what a great, safe installation the old man had designed, masonry all around it, heat sinks, self-cleaning chimney and all. Insurance guy said they charged more for a stove because people actually used them. In most new houses, people lit the fireplace once or twice and then gave it up. Those stove guys were firewood fanatics, ergo, injurable. So it was really all about the chainsaws.

I'll just get this down in pixels so ChristyB can come back and see it later, about radiant heat. My house has had hot water/boiler for 50 years, and it has paid for the place. We doubled the size of the house, installed gas boiler to replace forced-air oil back when oil was pennies a gallon, and still cut the heat bill in half. Two new pumps, couple of new valves, in 50 years. No major overhauls.

However I have the copper-pipe and aluminum fin radiators, not floor tubes. Many times I've wished I had the tubing, but life is like this: the first building I saw with floor heat was new in 1950. They'd used galvanized steel pipe in the concrete. The asphalt tile would get soft, and the pipes rotted out in 25 years. Had we installed floor heat when we added on, we'd have had steel pipe.

When flexible tube was invented, paired up so you could just place a return cap on the end of the run instead of engineering a pipe circuit, all the problems were solved. Even if the concrete shifted a little, the tube was still good. Except, the first-generation plastic tube formula was a little off, and it all degraded. The cost of replacing many many house floors bankrupted Gulf Oil's chemical division. If I'd gone to floor tubes when I revamped the house, I'd have had that stuff.

So if the system has pex tubing in the floor, the special-formula pex designed for heating, that is the best way of heating a house yet devised, and you can add geothermal features later more easily than any other system. Just ask about the age and material of the floor piping, to make sure you aren't buying someone else's Gen 1 or Gen 2 experiment.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2015 02:58 AM (xq1UY)

583 I rarely bother to watch it even on wide screen tv, unless I'm showing to someone who hasn't seen it before.

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO A FELLOW HUMAN YOU MONSTER???

If you gave them a choice between waterboarding and 2001, they chose poorly.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:59 AM (X9Mnx)

584 Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2015 02:45 AM (K4YiS)

Well, I hope you got *something* for your trouble. A future column, money from a bet, a candy bar, a cast-iron stomach....

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 03:00 AM (dCUzJ)

585 You liked Event Horizon?

It started out great...but then, damn, talk about the stuff that nightmares are made of.
*shudders*

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 02:54 AM (Zc7HF)

Yeah, that was great. It was definitely spooky. It was a great story though. I really liked how the ships looked.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:00 AM (FMbng)

586 583...If you gave them a choice between waterboarding and 2001, they chose poorly.

Well, not if you gave them some good drugs first.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 03:01 AM (Zc7HF)

587 WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO A FELLOW HUMAN YOU MONSTER??? If you gave them a choice between waterboarding and 2001, they chose poorly.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:59 AM

LOL.

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 03:01 AM (tBSrv)

588 Yeah, that was great. It was definitely spooky. It was a great story though. I really liked how the ships looked.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:00 AM

I didn't like Event Horizon much when it first came out. "Haunted house in space... whatever." But, EH has aged very, very well. It is indeed a good movie and looks fantastic.

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 03:03 AM (tBSrv)

589 If you gave them a choice between waterboarding and 2001, they chose poorly.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:59 AM (X9Mnx)

Even if the choice was 2001, or having a blind dude with a nervous condition shave their ass with a bolo knife they still chose poorly. I guess in 1968 it was epic, but that movie definitely knew how to frigging waste time.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:05 AM (FMbng)

590 @570 zombie, "You're a brick." It's like the rest of us don't even have to visit SF.

I was an organizing member of a Kollidge Klassix Film Series, as a freshman. Sat through some of the boringest, Most Important tripe ever overexposed, and paid for the privilege too. But that right there takes the cake.

Reminds me, in the early 60's, of the high school kids passing on, in hushed tones, what their collegial big siblings claimed to have seen in "Mondo Cane." Except, way better, and, as told by zombie.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2015 03:06 AM (xq1UY)

591 I didn't like Event Horizon much when it first came out. "Haunted house in space... whatever." But, EH has aged very, very well. It is indeed a good movie and looks fantastic.

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 03:03 AM (tBSrv)

It had tank top titties.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:06 AM (FMbng)

592 Pookysgirl, how are you doing? kiddo not jumping on the leg? Need a care package?

Posted by: OG CELTIC-AMERICAN at February 24, 2015 03:07 AM (cR9GI)

593 Chances that the passed-out drunk was a major film critic? Oh I think so.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2015 03:07 AM (xq1UY)

594 Worst ever date movie OF ALL TIME, bar none?
"Salo," by Pasolini...

Salo is a nonstop orgy (literally -- an actual 4-day orgy)...and then everybody dying.

All in the name of promoting (wait for it) communism!...

It was the only film I've ever been to in which THE ENTIRE audience walked out of the theatre. When the lights finally came up, there were only three people left in their seats: Me, the person I was with, and homeless bum who had passed out in his own vomit.

All all the attendees that evening, the person who fared the best was the vomit-covered bum, because at least he was unconscious for most of the film, while the rest of us had our psyches irrevocably scarred for life.

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2015 02:45 AM

Great. So now I have to add "Salo" on to my list of movies that are so bad I have to see them.

I've got an awful one for ya. Bloodrayne directed by Uwe Boll.

Wife is a big Meat Loaf fan so actually saw this in a theater. Meat is actually in some good films, Fight Club is one.

This stunk to high heaven and had the bonus of Ben Kingsley in this POC. He must have needed some cash. So bad it's good.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 03:08 AM (o/90i)

595 WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO A FELLOW HUMAN YOU MONSTER???

If you gave them a choice between waterboarding and 2001, they chose poorly.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 02:59 AM (X9Mnx)

Something to think on: Since 2001 is a Hollywood favorite, would President Selfie agree to show it at Gitmo for *ahem* "educational purposes"? (It's even in space, and NASA assures us that Muslims need to be encouraged to reach for the stars!) Or would he chicken out, privately admitting that it'd be torture?

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 03:09 AM (dCUzJ)

596 I've got an awful one for ya. Bloodrayne directed by Uwe Boll. Wife is a big Meat Loaf fan so actually saw this in a theater. Meat is actually in some good films, Fight Club is one. This stunk to high heaven and had the bonus of Ben Kingsley in this POC. He must have needed some cash. So bad it's good.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 03:08 AM

Oh, I LOVE Bloodrayne. That is truly a stinker. Such a good cast slumming in such a shitty film. It's a much watch farty film. It's worth it to watch Madsen's "where the fuck am I and what's this fim about, again?" performance.

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 03:12 AM (tBSrv)

597 I've got an awful one for ya. Bloodrayne directed by Uwe Boll.

Yep- it was terrible except for the gratuitous sex scene that was thrown in for no reason except boobs.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 03:13 AM (X9Mnx)

598 Didnt the Directot of Salo get snuffed by some gay chicken rogh trade he picked up?

Posted by: OG CELTIC-AMERICAN at February 24, 2015 03:13 AM (cR9GI)

599 Posted by: OG CELTIC-AMERICAN at February 24, 2015 03:07 AM (cR9GI)

I'm doing okay. Hoping to get approval from the doctor to get Pookette back late next week. It's so quiet without a toddler around.......

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 03:13 AM (dCUzJ)

600 I'm a SCOAMF of film making.

Posted by: Uwe Boll at February 24, 2015 03:18 AM (OVx7B)

601 well say so if there's anything we can send you. The moron horde is damn good at care packages!

Posted by: OG CELTIC-AMERICAN at February 24, 2015 03:18 AM (cR9GI)

602 Bloodrayne? ...Which one? There's two of three of those movies, aren't there?

The one with the Nazis is really a stinker.
Couldn't watch the whole thing though...maybe it got better.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 03:19 AM (Zc7HF)

603 Oh, I LOVE Bloodrayne. That is truly a stinker. Such a good cast slumming in such a shitty film. It's a much watch farty film. It's worth it to watch Madsen's "where the fuck am I and what's this fim about, again?" performance.

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 03:12 AM (tBSrv)

Wasn't there a few different bloodrayne movies? I remember one with the terminator chick, and another with some sweet looking little brunette in the old west. She qualified for the 1000 year rule.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:19 AM (FMbng)

604 Something to think on: Since 2001 is a Hollywood favorite, would President Selfie agree to show it at Gitmo for *ahem* "educational purposes"? (It's even in space, and NASA assures us that Muslims need to be encouraged to reach for the stars!) Or would he chicken out, privately admitting that it'd be torture?

I don't know, but before the second screening was over those fuckers would be begging to swear loyalty to the IDF just to make it stop.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 03:20 AM (X9Mnx)

605 Yep- it was terrible except for the gratuitous sex scene that was thrown in for no reason except boobs.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 03:13 AM (X9Mnx)

Boobs are always a good reason.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:21 AM (FMbng)

606 Bloodrayne? ...Which one? There's two of three of those movies, aren't there? The one with the Nazis is really a stinker. Couldn't watch the whole thing though...maybe it got better.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 03:19 AM

The first one. "Bloodrayne". It's so bad it's good. The sequels aren't. They're just lame bad.

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 03:21 AM (tBSrv)

607 Wasn't there a few different bloodrayne movies? I remember one with the terminator chick, and another with some sweet looking little brunette in the old west. She qualified for the 1000 year rule.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:19 AM

Yeah, but the first one is the only one worth bothering with. It plays out like Boll is actually trying really hard to do an epic and as Boll is want to do, fails... but fails spectacularly. After that he just goes back to regular Boll... "screw it."

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 03:26 AM (tBSrv)

608 I don't know, but before the second screening was over those fuckers would be begging to swear loyalty to the IDF just to make it stop.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2015 03:20 AM (X9Mnx)

See? It's educational: They didn't know that there were things worse that the Jooooos!

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 03:26 AM (dCUzJ)

609 606...The first one. "Bloodrayne". It's so bad it's good. The sequels aren't. They're just lame bad.

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 03:21 AM (tBSrv)

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Yeah, the first was kind of...artful.
And like Berserker said, it had that chick from Terminator playing Bloodrayne.

She wasn't in the other two movies, I don't think...seems like it was different ones.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 03:26 AM (Zc7HF)

610 Great. So now I have to add "Salo" on to my list of movies that are so bad I have to see them.

Posted by: Farmer

You misunderstand.

To the political Left, "Salo" is one of the greatest films ever made. It's on every leftist film critic's "Top 100 Films of All Time" list.

It's not badly made. It's well made.

But the problem is, it's evil. Pasolini was a truly sick individual, who was himself into brutally sadistic gay torture-sex, so although he pretended it was a parable about fascism, for him it was pure pornography.

Also note that many of the actors and actresses in the film were underage at the time it was made, making the film illegal in many countries (to this day).

Also note that some claim that it was not all faked.

I am warning you now, you will regret watching this film. It's not like some campy "Plan 9 From Outer Space" movie you can enjoy ironically because "It's so bad that it's good." No, watching Salo is like having your soul ass-raped by Satan.

To dissuade you, I will post here an abbreviated outline of the plot:

"In Republic of Salò, the Fascist-occupied portion of Italy, in 1944, four wealthy men of power, the Duke, the Bishop, the Magistrate, and the President, agree to marry each other's daughters as the first step in a debauched ritual. They recruit four teenage boys to act as guards and four young soldiers (called "studs", "cockmongers", or "fuckers"), who are chosen because of their big penises. They then kidnap nine young men and nine young women and take them to a palace near Salò....

During the many days at the palace, the four men devise increasingly abhorrent tortures and humiliations for their own pleasure. ...

...One of the studs trips a daughter and rapes her in front of the crowd. The four men of power, the prostitutes, the guards, and the other studs laugh at her cries of pain. Intrigued, the President moons several slaves before making the stud have anal sex with him as well. ... When the ceremony ends, the bride and groom are forced to fondle each other in front of the men, who rape them to stop them from having sex with each other, during which the Magistrate engages with the Duke in three-way intercourse before penetrating him.

Another day begins with the victims being forced to act like dogs. When one of the victims, Lamberto, refuses to do so, the Magistrate forces him before whipping him. The Magistrate tortures Lamberto's daughter by tricking her into eating food containing nails. ...

Non-penetrative sex gives way to coprophagia....

... She begs him to stop, which makes him more ruthless. The Duke orders the guards and studs to undress her. During this, she begs God for death, and the Duke punishes her by defecating in front of her and forcing her to eat his feces, making Rino rub his genitals as she does so. The President exits the chamber to masturbate. Later, the other victims are presented a meal of human feces. ...

Later there is a black mass-like wedding between the studs and the men of power. ... The wedding ceremony ensues with each man of power exchanging rings with a stud. After the wedding, the Bishop is sodomized by his stud. After, the stud refers to his huge penis as the Bishop's "friend", which will be available for his enjoyment in the future. ...

...The victims huddle together and cry, pray and one in particular begins to react from the horrible meals he's been fed. They are then tortured and murdered through methods such as branding, hanging, scalping, burning, and having their tongues and eyes cut out, as each libertine takes his turn to watch as voyeur. ..."

This doesn't even begin to convey what the experience of watching the film is like. I guarantee you will vomit during the shit-eating scenes. And you will hate humanity and hate life when it's all over. Which, I guess, was the point of the film -- to corrupt mankind.

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2015 03:29 AM (K4YiS)

611 Posted by: OG CELTIC-AMERICAN at February 24, 2015 03:18 AM (cR9GI)

Thanks! Pooky is doing a pretty good job of taking care of me while saving the world, and I got to talk to Pookette on the phone today, so that was nice.

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 03:31 AM (dCUzJ)

612 I think the problem is that a lot of sci-fi themes were done to death. 348 vampire movies, 259 werewolf movies, 278 werewolf fighting vampire movies, etc. Then...then we got to go to the Frankenstein in the lab movies. 2 headed sharks, fish with alligator heads, flying bird head turtles, etc. Then we got the endless hey lets dig up some cursed shit in the dessert movies, and the earth freezing over movies followed by the earth burning movies. A few dozen asteroid movies, center of the earth movies, volcano movies, etc. The truly original ones stand out, and some of those today are filled with leftist shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:31 AM (FMbng)

613 One of my favorite all time fun Space movies is...Ice Pirates.

It was kind of a low-budget film, but hilarious.
It had everything...a princess, some space bandits, time travel, even a 'space herpes' critter.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 03:33 AM (Zc7HF)

614 I admit to imdb'ing Salo, to read how the director died (no spoiler here: they don't know whodunit. Would make a great sequel.)

So, in the trivia/goofs category, we have "In the beginning of the film a 1948 Fiat 500 B can be seen."

Ass-raping souls is one thing, but with this line, evil achieves perfection.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2015 03:34 AM (xq1UY)

615 @612 hey lets dig up some cursed shit in the dessert movies

Aaaand we're right back to "Salo." In the dessert. Get it?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2015 03:36 AM (xq1UY)

616 Eeeesh, zombie. How about we erase those bad memories with a few viewings of "Tangled," eh? It's the sweetest film I can think of at the moment.

Posted by: pookysgirl sometimes hates touchscreens at February 24, 2015 03:36 AM (dCUzJ)

617 Yeah, the first was kind of...artful.
And like Berserker said, it had that chick from Terminator playing Bloodrayne.

She wasn't in the other two movies, I don't think...seems like it was different ones.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 03:26 AM (Zc7HF)

Yeah they were different. The one I was thinking about was bloodrayne deliverance with Natassia Malthe. No clue what it was about, but the chick looked good.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1947965440/nm0853573?ref_=nmmi_mi_all_pbl_17

1000 year rule.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:37 AM (FMbng)

618

. and, courtesy of Wiki, Pasolini was whacked shortly before the release of "Salo".

Ironically, that's art.

Posted by: Arbalest at February 24, 2015 03:37 AM (FlRtG)

619 612...Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:31 AM (FMbng)

Yep, all that. And now...they're doing mash ups.

Have you seen Stonado?
Tornados sucking up volcanic rock and then flinging out exploding stones!

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 03:38 AM (Zc7HF)

620 2001 was the first sci fi movie to actually try and get the science of being in space right. So it gets major kudos for that, regardless of any other complaints about it.

>> Some of those exhaust-pipe rigs that go under the fire have options for
drawing outside air, or a fan-box and flex tube to direct the heat. Both
worth trying. Obviously, as a stover, I'm convinced fireplaces are a
near total loss, but hey.

Cast iron pot belly stove in the middle of the room, with no other heat source. It provides net heat with no problems; as a bonus, you can cook on its surface too. But unless it's a large stove and a small room, it won't get warm and toasty throughout that room.

Fireplaces tend to suck your central heat out of the room; your heating bill is likely to go UP.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 24, 2015 03:40 AM (Sgf5Q)

621 Have you seen Stonado?
Tornados sucking up volcanic rock and then flinging out exploding stones!

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 03:38 AM (Zc7HF)

There are no words..

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:41 AM (FMbng)

622 @617 That's one of the more creative solutions I've seen to the timeless aesthetic issue of Assless Chaps. They are, you see, and then again, they aren't.

I forget, has anyone here seen the Assless Chaps...open...for anyone?
Because that would make a hell of a name for a rock band.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2015 03:41 AM (xq1UY)

623 I forget, has anyone here seen the Assless Chaps...open...for anyone?
Because that would make a hell of a name for a rock band.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2015 03:41 AM (xq1UY)

Not any band I have ever been in. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:44 AM (FMbng)

624 617...The one I was thinking about was bloodrayne deliverance with Natassia Malthe. No clue what it was about, but the chick looked good.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:37 AM (FMbng)

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I think I've seen part of that one...Michael Pare was in it.

Michael Pare.
What happened to him...he seemed like he was on a good career path with Eddie and the Cruisers.

Then, nothing for a while, then he starts doing these B-budget scifi type films.

Maybe he's conservative and he mouthed off to someone?

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 03:46 AM (Zc7HF)

625 I think the one movie that really rivals 2001 for the WTF trophy is THX1138. That movie was off the frigging charts for weird shit. I could never sit through that one again.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:47 AM (FMbng)

626 Yeah, but the first one is the only one worth bothering with. It plays out like Boll is actually trying really hard to do an epic and as Boll is want to do, fails... but fails spectacularly. After that he just goes back to regular Boll... "screw it."
Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 03:26 AM

Otho, I had no idea when I mentioned this crappy movie that anyone would have heard of it.

It figures someone like you would also have such a great appreciation of bad films. I'm thinking the Horde needs a new thread on really bad movies.

Here you go Maet, an easy ONT. Thanks for all you post here...and thanks for all the others that make this an entertaining community.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 03:48 AM (o/90i)

627 Michael Pare.
What happened to him...he seemed like he was on a good career path with Eddie and the Cruisers.

Then, nothing for a while, then he starts doing these B-budget scifi type films.

Maybe he's conservative and he mouthed off to someone?

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 03:46 AM (Zc7HF)

Yeah now that you mention it. He was usually good. I wonder what happened.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:49 AM (FMbng)

628 #620

I've become wary of movies that pat themselves on the back for their claimed accuracy. It almost guarantees there will be something stunningly stupid in the movie. Like 'Deep Impact' which featured an Orion Drive ship with exactly the opposite configuration such a vessel would have. More recently there was 'Interstellar' abusing relativity in a way that any high school grad should know was wrong.

Going way back, there was 'The Andromeda Strain' which reproduced by magic, producing copies of itself from thin air without taking on mass to build the copies from.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 24, 2015 03:50 AM (IdCqF)

629 Hmm, I just looked up Michael Pare. He's actually been a busy bee. He's in a ton of shit. I counted like 15 things just for 2015-2016 period alone.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:52 AM (FMbng)

630 a new thread on really bad movies

Just one? You could do a regular weekly feature, until the end of time.
I knew an authority on Western movies (the ones with the cowboys and Indians) forty years ago, who said that if every western actually happened, the Old West would have had to last 700 years. And, they've made more since then.

It's like that with epically bad movies. You may start reviewing them now, but you'll never run out. The tap is still running.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2015 03:54 AM (xq1UY)

631 Going way back, there was 'The Andromeda Strain' which reproduced by magic, producing copies of itself from thin air without taking on mass to build the copies from.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 24, 2015 03:50 AM (IdCqF)

Yeah, that was another one that took me years to actually see in one sitting. I still don't know if I remember how it ended.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:54 AM (FMbng)

632 Heh! THX1138 is one of my favorite movies. I'm a sucker for dystopian SciFi.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at February 24, 2015 03:56 AM (20X6f)

633 629 Hmm, I just looked up Michael Pare. He's actually been a busy bee. He's in a ton of shit. I counted like 15 things just for 2015-2016 period alone.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 24, 2015 03:52 AM (FMbng)

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Glad he's getting the work.
I've always liked him.

Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2015 03:58 AM (Zc7HF)

634 This doesn't even begin to convey what the experience of watching the film is like. I guarantee you will vomit during the shit-eating scenes. And you will hate humanity and hate life when it's all over. Which, I guess, was the point of the film -- to corrupt mankind.
Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2015 03:29 AM

OK, thanks for the film review, which I couldn't even finish.

No, that doesn't go on a list of bad films, that's just f...ing sick.

I appreciate what you do by informing the rest of us about what is going on in SF. I hope you get out of there sometimes to clear your head and enjoy something sane.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 03:59 AM (o/90i)

635 GQ is NOT a men's magazine. It is a liberal rag.

President Obama is appointing an openly terrorist-sympathizing Muslim to
head a government office dedicated to countering Islamic State
propaganda.

Of course and he will be overwhelmingly confirmed by Republicans (if this is one that goes to the Senate)

Posted by: Vic at February 24, 2015 04:00 AM (wlDny)

636 Didn't Assless Chaps open for the Butthole Surfers..........

Oh Lord, how do I denounce myself, let me count the ways.....

Posted by: GMB World Class Tyrant at February 24, 2015 04:01 AM (wQ7l/)

637 610: Zombie, how in the hell did you get roped into seeing that? Lose a bet?

Posted by: puddleglum@work at February 24, 2015 04:07 AM (20X6f)

638 Wheatie,
Are you still awake?
Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2015 04:14 AM (sj3Ax)

639 @637 It was the Seventies. "I understand."

Well at some point, it always gets A Little Too Quiet in Here, and it looks like that point, so I am going to lounge around for a while. Leave us not forget to redirect Duchess of Alba back for all the extra comments on heating systems, later.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2015 04:26 AM (xq1UY)

640 Fakir, or faker? A19th century story about a yogi that could enter suspended animation, and survive burial for several weeks:

http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/yogi-stops-heart-for-six-weeks/

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 24, 2015 04:32 AM (Sgf5Q)

641 Otho, I had no idea when I mentioned this crappy movie that anyone would have heard of it. It figures someone like you would also have such a great appreciation of bad films. I'm thinking the Horde needs a new thread on really bad movies. Here you go Maet, an easy ONT. Thanks for all you post here...and thanks for all the others that make this an entertaining community.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2015 03:48 AM

Oh, yeah. Bloodrayne is... special. Seconded on the suggestion of a Bad Movie thread/s. Would be fun.

Posted by: otho at February 24, 2015 04:43 AM (tBSrv)

642 I like Lady Gaga's elbows. Is she a cheerleader?

Posted by: goon at February 24, 2015 05:13 AM (gNTQS)

643 -11. Screw this shit.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 24, 2015 05:26 AM (RubNX)

644 So an 18 year old Clarion wrestler died in a car crash. Coal truck landed on top of his Honda. He was not wearing seat belt. The article's writer seems obsessed with this. How does a seatbelt protect you when a coal truck is crushing the roof of your vehicle?

Posted by: Baldy at February 24, 2015 05:34 AM (+35FH)

645 Vic. Snowing at your place? Been at it about an hour here.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 24, 2015 05:40 AM (wVWRM)

646 Holy carp the themometer says its -8!!

Posted by: Kreplach at February 24, 2015 05:52 AM (LB3pO)

647 644 Baldy

Magic

645 Golfman in NC

Flurrying here in Columbia

Posted by: Sven10077 at February 24, 2015 06:03 AM (/4AZU)

648 2 degrees in Baltimore.

Previous record for 24 February was eight degrees, set in 1900.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2015 06:31 AM (YrXgo)

649 Someone should mention the NOOD....yes?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2015 06:36 AM (YrXgo)

650 Aldrin "later earned a Doctor of Science degree in Astronautics from MIT - his thesis was on "Line-of-sight guidance techniques for manned orbital rendezvous" - " I'm glad you mentioned this, it was similar my PhD thesis topic in the mid-1960s too, and Aldrin essentially on his own had INVENTED the strategy of pilot-controlled orbital rendezvous still used today, and later hebet his own ass on its validity by flying such missions. I've got a copy of that thesis, and I even got Buzz to autographthe coverfor me. I've worked with him for years, he's damned near as smart as he thinks he is, he is still decades ahead of everybody else on space trajectory design, he has earned a few light years of slack for grandstanding where and whenever he WANTS to, and he is a blessing to this planet. Jim O www.jamesoberg.com

Posted by: jim oberg at February 25, 2015 12:39 PM (GwGhh)

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