February 19, 1945

The 70th anniversary of the beginning of the Battle of Iwo Jima. A five week long battle.

27 Medals of Honor. 22 to Marines and 5 to USN sailors.

There were 82 Medals of Honor awarded to Marines in all of the Pacific campaign.

Posted by: Dave In Texas at 08:00 PM

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1 In remembrance..... a toast ( raises glass )

Posted by: Yip at February 19, 2015 08:31 PM (84SRe)

2 Uncommon valor was a common virtue.

Posted by: beats27 at February 19, 2015 08:32 PM (V8L/P)

3 The very freedoms that they fought for are disappearing. If any one is interested, MAC (Military Arms Channel) has a vid about the proposed ATF arbitrary ammo ban.

http://y2u.be/6PaIIChRMBw

Posted by: Flying Hydrospanner at February 19, 2015 08:33 PM (jkdqY)

4 My stepson is serving on the latest namesake.

USS Iwo Jima LHD-7

Uncommon Valor.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 08:33 PM (doBIb)

5 Thank You!

Posted by: Fewenuff at February 19, 2015 08:34 PM (zPNX5)

6 A great battle, and both sides fought very hard.

That being said, we could have taken the island earlier except for the strategic genius of MacArthur.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 19, 2015 08:35 PM (u82oZ)

7 I had a friend, now dead, USNA grad, was a captain when they landed. He had 120% replacement of his group. Three original and he made it.

He was president of the old Eckerd's Drug chain.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 08:36 PM (0FSuD)

8 My Grandfather who passed two years ago was one of the first to land his stricken B-29 on Iwo (The main reason we took the island) He would more than likely not be here if he couldn't have landed there and thus I would not be typing this. Weird thinking about that out loud. Semper Fi!

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 19, 2015 08:36 PM (mv76s)

9 Sobering. Bless them

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 08:36 PM (zOTsN)

10 Semper Fidelis

Posted by: Anonymous Scandi Hobo who doesn't want to be turned into jerky at February 19, 2015 08:37 PM (kgShW)

11 Men With Chests.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 19, 2015 08:37 PM (MMC8r)

12 Four of the five sailors were Pharmacist Mates ("Doc"). The fifth was a jg commanding a gunboat LCI. Two of the HMs were posthumous.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 19, 2015 08:38 PM (brIR5)

13 Four of the five sailors were Pharmacist Mates ("Doc"). The fifth was a jg commanding a gunboat LCI. Two of the HMs were posthumous.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 19, 2015 08:38 PM (brIR5)

14 Yes I am sure the island would have been taken earlier if only we provided a jobs program, midnight basketball and a poetry slam.

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 08:38 PM (zOTsN)

15 The excellent 1951 documentary series "Crusade in the Pacific" is still available on Netflix streaming until March 15. It's a deeply detailed 24-episode history of WWII in the Pacific, each ep 25 minutes long. Well worth watching. Iwo Jima is covered in episode 19.

Posted by: gp at February 19, 2015 08:39 PM (mk9aG)

16 correct me if I'm remembering this incorrectly, but didn't the Smithsonian c 1994 have an exhibit that blamed America for cultural imperialism against Japan?

Posted by: mallfly at February 19, 2015 08:39 PM (QZVz5)

17 God Bless All Our Veterans,
From WWII & those that didn't come home.
Every war from Korea to Afghanistan & Iraq, too.
I wasn't going to stop at Iraq but we still have soldiers in Afghanistan & we aren't sure what they're doing in Iraq.

May God Give them a real CIC soon.

Posted by: Carol at February 19, 2015 08:41 PM (sj3Ax)

18 Uncommon valor was a common virtue.

That "uncommon" is key for the Medal of Honor.

These are not Purple Hearts. Those latter can shade into Darwin Awards depending on how you get 'em. (Or, worse, into Kerry Awards.) You don't get the Medal of Honor for racking up enemy bodycounts, either.

You get those medals for bravery that ensures the success of the mission. You get them for fighting smart.

A lot of good men died on that beach. Much better men than I can really comprehend.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 19, 2015 08:41 PM (AVEe1)

19 14 Yes I am sure the island would have been taken earlier if only we provided a jobs program, midnight basketball and a poetry slam.

Hahahaha!!!

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 08:41 PM (doBIb)

20 Hahahaha!!!

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 08:41 PM (doBIb)

So I hear you're a lesbian.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 19, 2015 08:42 PM (GEICT)

21 Remind me again how using Nukes to end the war was unjustified?

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 19, 2015 08:42 PM (0Ew3K)

22 My dad Capt. Nevergiveup SR. went in with the Recon Unit, 4th Marines, 70 years ago Today.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 19, 2015 08:43 PM (nzKvP)

23 So I hear you're a lesbian.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 19, 2015 08:42 PM (GEICT)

I wish I was a lesbian...

Posted by: Loudon Wainright III at February 19, 2015 08:43 PM (0Ew3K)

24 You get them for the past full measure of devotion to the man to your right and your left

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 08:44 PM (zOTsN)

25 Why wish for lesbian when you could have Brucy Jenner?

Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade at February 19, 2015 08:44 PM (cmBvC)

26 Till the day he died, my DAD wore his 4th Marine pin on his lapel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 19, 2015 08:44 PM (nzKvP)

27 Imagine if an Obama had been president.

We've got a sweet old fellow in our church, always nattily dressed, who is a Marine Corps survivor of the battle of Okinawa. He sports a long scar down the right side of his face.

Told our son, "I went into the Corps and lost 20 lbs. at boot camp. And I've made it a point to not gain a single pound back."

Love that guy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 08:44 PM (FsuaD)

28 So I hear you're a lesbian.

I hear you're one too. In fact, we may be in the company of lesbians right now!

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 08:44 PM (doBIb)

29 Last full measure not past full measure

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 08:45 PM (zOTsN)

30 Obama thinks about the legitimate grievances the Japanese soldiers on Iwo Jima had.

Posted by: cm9000 at February 19, 2015 08:45 PM (8zCR+)

31 correct me if I'm remembering this incorrectly, but didn't the Smithsonian c 1994 have an exhibit that blamed America for cultural imperialism against Japan?

I think I remember that.

But I'm still unclear as to how that would force the Japanese into Manchuria, Indonesia, Burma, etc., etc., etc.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 19, 2015 08:45 PM (MMC8r)

32 Dave in Texas

Thanks for reminding us.

God Bless the USA.

This pimple of a potus will not change our course.

Posted by: seamrog at February 19, 2015 08:46 PM (u2kJb)

33 Seems like I was the only moronette on the thread below. Is this another all moron thread?

*reaches for something*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 08:46 PM (FsuaD)

34 What's a medal of honor compared to a Nobel peace prize? Oh, yeah, the million bucks or so.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 19, 2015 08:46 PM (2o6Wj)

35 I'm not worthy, but to say thanks guys and gals that served.
And are serving.
And have loved ones that do.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at February 19, 2015 08:46 PM (KG0mU)

36 34
What's a medal of honor compared to a Nobel peace prize? Oh, yeah, the million bucks or so.

Ask me about my Cronkite award. *tosses head*

Posted by: Ronan Farrow at February 19, 2015 08:47 PM (FsuaD)

37 Seems like I was the only moronette on the thread below. Is this another all moron thread?

You were naked behind the bar giving head and then removing your bra.

That's a continuity error but I'm willing to overlook it.

Go on...

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 19, 2015 08:48 PM (1xUj/)

38 33 Seems like I was the only moronette on the thread below. Is this another all moron thread?

*reaches for something*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 08:46 PM (FsuaD)

Careful Jane! Joey Biden's about. You might want to put your bra back on!

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 08:48 PM (doBIb)

39 United States Order of Battle at Iwo Jima:

Assault Forces

471st Amphibian Truck Company (attached to 5th Marine Division)

473rd Amphibian Truck Company (attached to VAC), Captain Robert P. Schwabl

476th Amphibian Truck Company (attached to 4th Marine Division), Captain Nevergiveup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 19, 2015 08:48 PM (nzKvP)

40 I just thought of this and I know it belongs in the previous thread, but here it is anyway.

I just wonder if "50 shades of Grey is talking about Biden's Hair color"

Posted by: Picric at February 19, 2015 08:48 PM (QnQ+g)

41 What a shame we won't allow our military to fight the way our military fought in WWII. Damned ROE. Thanks, Marxist Hussein Obama.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 08:48 PM (FsuaD)

42 Told our son, "I went into the Corps and lost 20 lbs. at boot camp. And I've made it a point to not gain a single pound back."

Love that guy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

God bless him. I couldn't make it through 10 minutes of boot camp, I'm sure of it.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at February 19, 2015 08:49 PM (H/s7S)

43 >>Ask me about my Cronkite award. *tosses head*

Posted by: Ronan Farrow

I thought you were more a *salad* kind of guy.

Posted by: Aviator at February 19, 2015 08:49 PM (3rrMW)

44 The excellent 1951 documentary series "Crusade in the Pacific" is still available

Uh Oh. There's that "C" word.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 19, 2015 08:49 PM (W5DcG)

45 I hear you're one too. In fact, we may be in the company of lesbians right now!
Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 08:44 PM (doBIb)

Well, if you get a couple drinks in her.....

But enough of that. This a thread for the honoring of men. One of my favorite poems is apt here, I think.

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/174586

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 19, 2015 08:49 PM (GEICT)

46 We still have such men. The only thing they lack is a leader

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 08:49 PM (zOTsN)

47 Racism is the only reason Obama hasn't been awarded a Medal of Honor.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 19, 2015 08:49 PM (LImiJ)

48 Careful Jane! Joey Biden's about. You might want to put your bra back on!

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 08:48 PM (doBIb)

*reaches for "something"*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 08:50 PM (FsuaD)

49 Of the 22,000 Jap troops on the island, only 216 were taken prisoner.

Posted by: Neely Grassy Tyson at February 19, 2015 08:50 PM (F2IAQ)

50 But I'm still unclear as to how that would force the Japanese into Manchuria, Indonesia, Burma, etc., etc., etc.
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 19, 2015 08:45 PM (MMC8r)

Look, if you can't see why a mutual treaty limiting the tonnage of a nation's fleet forces them to invade & murder everybody around them, you really aren't cut out for a professorship.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at February 19, 2015 08:50 PM (MbqmP)

51 I read it was man to man combat too. How do the jihadis of today compare to the Japanese warriors in WWII?

Posted by: jmel at February 19, 2015 08:51 PM (cfFqn)

52 Racism is the only reason Obama hasn't been awarded a Medal of Honor.
Posted by: The Great White Snark
---------------

Not a problem, in the Bergdahl case.

Posted by: Neely Grassy Tyson at February 19, 2015 08:51 PM (F2IAQ)

53 Obama is not man enough to carry any of these guys dirty skivvies to the laundry. He isn't even worthy to bring them coffee.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 19, 2015 08:51 PM (ucDmr)

54 Meghan Kelly going to town about release of future war plan by pentagon.

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 08:51 PM (zOTsN)

55 Women deny me their essance...

Posted by: OG CELTIC-AMERICAN at February 19, 2015 08:51 PM (XlFLJ)

56 Were the Navy guys corpse-men? Lotta "docs" have earned the CMH.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at February 19, 2015 08:52 PM (yxw0r)

57 Racism is the only reason Obama hasn't been awarded a Medal of Honor.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 19, 2015 08:49 PM (LImiJ)

He could whip out his selfie stick and award one to himself.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 19, 2015 08:53 PM (W5DcG)

58 I will toast these brave men. Whose joining. Anybody got a good toast?

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 08:53 PM (zOTsN)

59 46
We still have such men. The only thing they lack is a leader

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 08:49 PM (zOTsN)

THIS^^^^

An old fellow we know actually said to us, "It's a shame today's military don't know how to fight the way we did in WWII."

My husband is much more patient than I am, and gently put the old fellow some knowledge about how our military can't fire on the enemy unless they're fired upon first.

And let's please remember, not a single one of our young men and women were drafted. And their C-i-C doesn't give a [redacted] about them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 08:53 PM (FsuaD)

60 Overdose, reportedly. He was 30 and rich.

Breaking News @BreakingNews 4m4 minutes ago
'Parks and Recreation' executive producer Harris Wittels found dead at home, police say - @latimes http://lat.ms/1zS0gz7

Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 19, 2015 08:54 PM (ZPrif)

61 I hear you're one too. In fact, we may be in the company of lesbians right now!

Present!

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at February 19, 2015 08:54 PM (yl/WE)

62 correct me if I'm remembering this incorrectly, but didn't the Smithsonian c 1994 have an exhibit that blamed America for cultural imperialism against Japan?

Not exactly. The caption was something to the effect that after Pearl Harbor was the was one of vengeance for many Americans, while for many of the Japanese it was a struggle to preserve their unique culture. That as close to the exact wording as I can remember. Strictly speaking, entirely accurate, while being pretty misleading if you didn't know the rest of the story.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 19, 2015 08:54 PM (FgyLE)

63 "What a shame we won't allow our military to fight the way our military
fought in WWII. Damned ROE. Thanks, Marxist Hussein Obama."

Unfortunately, Bush didn't do any favors there either.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 19, 2015 08:55 PM (NaeCR)

64 Seems like I was the only moronette on the thread below. Is this another all moron thread?

*reaches for something*

*whips out something*

Posted by: The all moron thread at February 19, 2015 08:55 PM (yl/WE)

65 I read it was man to man combat too. How do the jihadis of today compare to the Japanese warriors in WWII?

Posted by: jmel at February 19, 2015 08:51 PM (cfFqn)

Not well. The Japs of WWII would make short work of Islamic State.

Posted by: cm9000 at February 19, 2015 08:55 PM (8zCR+)

66 15 The excellent 1951 documentary series "Crusade in the Pacific" is still available on Netflix streaming until March 15. It's a deeply detailed 24-episode history of WWII in the Pacific, each ep 25 minutes long. Well worth watching. Iwo Jima is covered in episode 19.
Posted by: gp at February 19, 2015 08:39 PM (mk9aG)

Is that a different series from "Victory at Sea"?

Posted by: rickl at February 19, 2015 08:55 PM (sdi6R)

67 "correct me if I'm remembering this incorrectly, but didn't the Smithsonian c 1994 have an exhibit that blamed America for cultural imperialism against Japan?"

It was after they had restored the _Enola Gay_. And yep, it was every bit as bad as you might have imagined.

Got the story from one of the docents.

Something little understood is that the Smithsonian's aircraft collection has benefited hugely over the years from grizzled retired Airframe & Powerplant mechanics who had personally worked on those birds decades earlier. They brought their professional tradecraft into the loop. Sometimes showing up toting technical manuals and miscellaneous small parts that can no longer be found anywhere.

When they heard what the moonbat liberal curators had cooked up by way of accompanying "commentary" and "nuance" to the Hiroshima bomber, 80% of them, who had all been working pro bono as a labor of love and honor, downed tools and cleaned up and left the restoration shop, not to return. A huge blow to the collection's efforts from that point on.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 19, 2015 08:55 PM (noWW6)

68 Anyone who hasn't read it, read "Unbroken."

I've insisted my husband give it to his lib idiot mom to read.

As she said to our son before he left for his sea base on Okinawa, "Just remember, the Japanese are very polite and so much more civilized than Americans."

To D'oh Boy's credit, he ignored her.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 08:56 PM (FsuaD)

69 The excellent 1951 documentary series "Crusade in the Pacific" is still available on Netflix streaming until March 15. It's a deeply detailed 24-episode history of WWII in the Pacific, each ep 25 minutes long. Well worth watching. Iwo Jima is covered in episode 19.
Posted by: gp at February 19, 2015 08:39 PM (mk9aG)

Is that a different series from "Victory at Sea"?
Posted by: rickl at February 19, 2015 08:55 PM (sdi6R)

I think they are different. My father is in "Victory at Sea"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 19, 2015 08:56 PM (nzKvP)

70 I hear you're one too. In fact, we may be in the company of lesbians right now!

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 08:44 PM (doBIb)

I found out in college, I am also one.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 08:56 PM (0FSuD)

71 To better men than I can ever be, who sacrificed more than I will ever have, so that I can have children I don't deserve, with futures I can't imagine.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at February 19, 2015 08:56 PM (yxw0r)

72 Not well. The Japs of WWII would make short work of Islamic State.

Remember that show, Deadliest Warrior?

They once had a match up between Taliban vs IRA.

Guess.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 08:57 PM (doBIb)

73 Great toast

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 08:57 PM (zOTsN)

74 I've been told that after Pearl Harbor my Dad went to enlist.

Flunked the eye exam, very bad left peeper.

Apparently he memorized the eye chart.

Wound up Army Air Corp.

He never really talked about it, but I found a pic of him and another soldier/airman in front of a large snow capped mountain.

Mount Fuji maybe?

He was first generation American, my how the world has changed.

Posted by: seamrog at February 19, 2015 08:57 PM (u2kJb)

75 Here's to American valor,
May no war require it, but may it ever be ready for every foe.

Posted by: ALH at February 19, 2015 08:57 PM (btTLZ)

76 Contemporary news reports here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3259100/posts

Posted by: Karl Withak at February 19, 2015 08:57 PM (Y/DJj)

77 Highly recommend "With The Old Breed." The HBO series "The Pacific" was based in part on it.

Chilling.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 08:58 PM (FsuaD)

78 "Racism is the only reason Obama hasn't been awarded a Medal of Honor"

We don't know that, maybe, like collage, his military record is off limits too.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 19, 2015 08:58 PM (NaeCR)

79 Careful Jane! Joey Biden's about. You might want to put your bra back on!

Seriously, that guy has issues.

Posted by: Rapey McSeamammal at February 19, 2015 08:58 PM (m9V0o)

80 My dad gained 20 lbs before he came home. They say that it either puts it on or takes it off.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 19, 2015 08:58 PM (2o6Wj)

81 6,800 GI's lost, over 19,000 wounded.

Posted by: Neely Grassy Tyson at February 19, 2015 08:58 PM (F2IAQ)

82 Were the Navy guys corpse-men? Lotta "docs" have earned the CMH.

See my 12. Or 13.

Roll out the barrel.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 19, 2015 08:58 PM (brIR5)

83 >>> The excellent 1951 documentary series "Crusade in the Pacific" is still available

"Uh Oh. There's that 'C' word."

Ike's war memoirs were titled _Crusade in Europe_.

He too failed to get the memo about delicate Islamic sensitivities.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 19, 2015 08:59 PM (noWW6)

84 / Grassy sock

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 19, 2015 08:59 PM (F2IAQ)

85 Ooh look, the anklebiters are now saying that Graeme Wood's anti-ISIS article at the Atlantic lacks nuance:
http://tinyurl.com/lhqfv8w

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 19, 2015 08:59 PM (AVEe1)

86 The Iwo Jima is now parked outside Yemen, waiting to or is in the process of evac'ing our DoS people from the embassy.

Don't linger.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 08:59 PM (doBIb)

87 69
I think they are different. My father is in "Victory at Sea"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 19, 2015 08:56 PM (nzKvP)

Cool. My father bought the whole VHS collection of "Victory at Sea", but he's not in it, unless you count footage of the USS Lexington.

Posted by: rickl at February 19, 2015 08:59 PM (sdi6R)

88 I don't feel very good today not quite but almost lost what little sips of water I had today.
I just poured a glass of wine. If it's germs I hope alcohol will kil them.

Cheers to Marines at Iwo Jima!

Posted by: Carol at February 19, 2015 09:00 PM (sj3Ax)

89 You can't kill your way to victory.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 19, 2015 09:00 PM (hlbmD)

90 74
I've been told that after Pearl Harbor my Dad went to enlist.

Flunked the eye exam, very bad left peeper.

Apparently he memorized the eye chart.

Wound up Army Air Corp.

That's my dad! He was a junior at Clemson Military College. Immediately went to enlist, and was underweight. Doc told him to go drink as much water as he could and come back.

He barely made it. He was an engineering major and they put him in the Army Air Corps as a test pilot.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:00 PM (FsuaD)

91 We had neighbor when I was a kid in Phoenix; he went up the beaches 3 times. he would come over to shoot the breeze with The Old Man, and I would be sent to "get the Gunny a beer". two rules: cold and in a glass. he refused to ever again drink a warm beer, or from a can. I was 14... and he was... Leonidas and Polynikes at Thermopylae, Horatio at the Bridge, Chamberlain of the 20th Maine, Maj. Roberts of the Rangers, and Chesty Puller to me.

Posted by: retropox at February 19, 2015 09:01 PM (XKSei)

92 @69

I have the complete set of Victory at Sea somewhere. I think what you are talking about probably is Victory.

di-di-di-dah,,,,,, V in Morse code always open the show. With the NBC symphony playing the music. Which was great. I watched it as a kid.

http://tinyurl.com/3c4j42

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:01 PM (0FSuD)

93 Read the names, http://tinyurl.com/ky8a3ft , then ponder the lying sack of worthless shit that can't hold his own umbrella.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 19, 2015 09:02 PM (F2IAQ)

94 Cool. My father bought the whole VHS collection of "Victory at Sea", but he's not in it, unless you count footage of the USS Lexington.
Posted by: rickl at February 19, 2015 08:59 PM (sdi6R)

Yeah my Dad is many films about Iwo Jima. It shows him in the sand and he turns his head to the camera and you see him with his sun glasses on below his helmet. It's a great picture. I grabbed it off the video and have it only FB page

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 19, 2015 09:02 PM (nzKvP)

95 Once again, imagine if we'd had an Obama as president during WWII.

Now imagine what's in our future as a nation under the SCOAMF.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:03 PM (FsuaD)

96 Jane D'oh,
Pacific is my next HBO on demand series to watch.

Posted by: Carol at February 19, 2015 09:03 PM (sj3Ax)

97 This will get you pumped up.

http://tinyurl.com/p65jpsa

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:03 PM (0FSuD)

98 Remember that show, Deadliest Warrior?

They once had a match up between Taliban vs IRA.

Guess.

*crosses fingers*

Posted by: The Goat at February 19, 2015 09:04 PM (yl/WE)

99 Iwo Jima is where John Basilone died, on the very first day.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:04 PM (doBIb)

100 I had a defendant today who was wearing a Purple Heart on his suit. I asked him if it was legitimate. He pulled up his pants and showed me his bionic leg. He served in Afghanistan and lost his leg in Iraq. (He's a first time offender DUI; I.e., not a dirtbag.)

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 19, 2015 09:04 PM (LImiJ)

101
I will toast these brave men. Whose joining. Anybody got a good toast?

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 08:53 PM (zOTsN)

To wives and sweethearts. May they never meet.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at February 19, 2015 09:04 PM (2L0WZ)

102 It's amazing how tough that generation was. Then I think of the Baby Boomers that followed them and I wonder--what went wrong? How America go from flag raisers at Iwo Jima to flag burners on college campuses in twenty short years?

Can someone answer that question for me?

Posted by: Jax Jaguars at February 19, 2015 09:05 PM (c056A)

103 96
Jane D'oh,

Pacific is my next HBO on demand series to watch.

Posted by: Carol at February 19, 2015 09:03 PM (sj3Ax)

It's good. And don't let anyone tell you it's not as good as "Band of Brothers." It's different. And very good.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:05 PM (FsuaD)

104 They once had a match up between Taliban vs IRA.

"The Lads" I'm sure.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 19, 2015 09:05 PM (brIR5)

105 How far we have fallen in 70 years.

Posted by: Boots at February 19, 2015 09:05 PM (l9mF2)

106 Tip O' the Red Trolley Ale, from San Diego.
Here's to the nevergiveups.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at February 19, 2015 09:06 PM (KG0mU)

107 You know, if we just got those Japs some jobs and beend nicer back then, we could have avoided it. Same with the Nazi's too. They were all poor and hopeless and turned to mass murder, cuz, err something.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 19, 2015 09:06 PM (mv76s)

108 Wiki says there were approximately 21,000 Japanese soldiers on it when the battle began. Only about a thou or so were taken prisoner.

Over 19,000 were killed.

Sounds like what someone ought to do in the territories ISIS controls.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 19, 2015 09:06 PM (U6f54)

109 99
Iwo Jima is where John Basilone died, on the very first day.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:04 PM (doBIb)

The book about him, "Hero of the Pacific" is on my (crowded) night stand.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:06 PM (FsuaD)

110 How America go from flag raisers at Iwo Jima to flag burners on college campuses in twenty short years?

Can someone answer that question for me?
Posted by: Jax Jaguars at February 19, 2015 09:05 PM (c056A)

The shitbags in higher education

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 19, 2015 09:06 PM (nzKvP)

111 104 They once had a match up between Taliban vs IRA.

"The Lads" I'm sure.
Posted by: Fox2! at February 19, 2015 09:05 PM (brIR5)

LOL! Correct!

It was down to one on one, and the final IRA guy gives the Talibani the finger while he watches him blow up in a car bomb he just rigged.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:06 PM (doBIb)

112 102: Our education system. We need to abolish the department of education now.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 19, 2015 09:06 PM (ucDmr)

113 99 - Yes, he's on the list : Basilone, John, GySgt, KIA, 27th Marines, USMC

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 19, 2015 09:06 PM (F2IAQ)

114 One more Victory theme song.

http://tinyurl.com/kwulxxf

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:07 PM (0FSuD)

115 My dad was at Saipan. He had a ring made from a spoon that he said a Japanese pow had made

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 09:07 PM (zOTsN)

116 102 It's amazing how tough that generation was. Then I think of the Baby Boomers that followed them and I wonder--what went wrong? How America go from flag raisers at Iwo Jima to flag burners on college campuses in twenty short years?

Can someone answer that question for me?

Posted by: Jax Jaguars at February 19, 2015 09:05 PM (c056A)

I think the WWII generation, who grew up during the depression, dustbowl, etc. came back from the war and decided that that life would not be their children's. So they made sure that their children would want for nothing and have all the opportunities they never had. They had the best of intentions, but it did not help.

Plus, the infiltration of the institutions had begun.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 19, 2015 09:08 PM (wt/Oq)

117 The shitbags in higher education
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Pretty much covers it

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 19, 2015 09:08 PM (F2IAQ)

118 109
99

Iwo Jima is where John Basilone died, on the very first day

And he'd been awarded the Medal of Honor. He chose to accompany the men he trained.

A true hero.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:08 PM (FsuaD)

119 Sounds like a classic disproportionate response.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 19, 2015 09:08 PM (hlbmD)

120 The book about him, "Hero of the Pacific" is on my (crowded) night stand.

He was the very next thing closest to a Titan of Greek mythology.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:08 PM (doBIb)

121 How America go from flag raisers at Iwo Jima to flag burners on college campuses in twenty short years?

Can someone answer that question for me?

Hiya!

Posted by: The Long March Through The Institutions at February 19, 2015 09:09 PM (yl/WE)

122
He was the very next thing closest to a Titan of Greek mythology.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:08 PM (doBIb)
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Yes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:09 PM (FsuaD)

123 And speaking of obnoxious exhibits, I recall one in the '90s where the artiste (a red diaper baby) forced the viewing public to tread on an American flag painted on the floor to gain entrance to the exhibit. I stepped gingerly around the flag because I hated being manipulated by commie pricks even more than I disliked uproars over pinko-generated media foofaraws. He later moved the flag back after pubic outcry but he was glad he "raised awareness" and shit.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 19, 2015 09:09 PM (KH1sk)

124 OK episode ONE Victory at Sea. My the way Rodger who wrote the music was the Rodgers in Rodgers and Hammerstein,

http://tinyurl.com/ls9eer5

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:09 PM (0FSuD)

125 di-di-di-dah,,,,,, V in Morse code always open the show. With the NBC symphony playing the music. Which was great. I watched it as a kid.

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I think the theme music really invokes the sound of the sea, too.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 19, 2015 09:09 PM (LImiJ)

126 4 My stepson is serving on the latest namesake.

USS Iwo Jima LHD-7

Uncommon Valor.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 08:33 PM (doBIb)

/Salute to your Son....

I served on USS Iwo Jima.... LPH-2

Posted by: BB Wolf at February 19, 2015 09:09 PM (qh617)

127 102 - I have pondered that question myself for many years. The best answer I've come up with is that the tough-as-nails generation, the ones who fought and won a world war across the globe - they saw too much and did not ever want their children to have to see it.

They thought they were fighting the last world war and that the world their children would inherit would be a better place.

But because the kids had no idea how hard fought and precious that freedom they'd been handed really was, it was easy - too easy - to mock it and trash it.

And so here we are.

Posted by: Boots at February 19, 2015 09:09 PM (l9mF2)

128 My Dad was in Army, Grandfather and my favorite Uncle were USN. Thanks guys.

They would be appalled at the CiC

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 19, 2015 09:10 PM (KJLlE)

129 Sounds like a classic disproportionate response.
Posted by: Boss Moss
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Yes. We should have just shot them in the arm.

Posted by: Fuckwits everywhere at February 19, 2015 09:10 PM (F2IAQ)

130 God bless all veterans. You're the one part of government that actually exceeds quality expectations.

Posted by: Jax Jaguars at February 19, 2015 09:10 PM (c056A)

131 Well tonight our pentagon was told to release our plan for attack of Mosul this April including dates

Pray pray pray for our men in uniform. God help them

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 09:11 PM (zOTsN)

132 Jane,
My older brother tells me shows I might like when they're on.
I never watched Dexter until before last season
I watched Band of Brothers in three day
I just finished watching Boardwalk Empire, again something I think I was better off watching in my own time than every week with almost a year between episodes.

Thanks.
He's told me I'd like The Wire, American Horror Story & I hated both.

Posted by: Carol at February 19, 2015 09:11 PM (sj3Ax)

133 51 The Jihadis would do poorly. The Japanese Army of WWII did not quit. Some surrendered in the 1960s!

Look at how they outmaneuvered, outfought and outsmarted the more numerous British Empire troops in Malaysia and Singapore. In general they were brutal in victory (look up the Battle of Hong Kong and the Japanese Army in Borneo).

By Iwo Jima they had figured out how to neutralize the great advantage in equipment the US troops had. The Japanese tried to kill as many US troops as they could, without any hope of victory.

Our landing sites on Kyushu, and the timing, were figured out by the Japanese. We had no surprise against a much larger force, including 11,000 Kamikaze aircraft aimed at the transports.

Good thing we dropped every nuclear bomb we had. A lot of American and Japanese lives were saved by those weapons.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 19, 2015 09:11 PM (u82oZ)

134 131 Shouldn't those kinds of preparations be secret?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 19, 2015 09:11 PM (hlbmD)

135
Ooh look, the anklebiters are now saying that Graeme Wood's anti-ISIS article at the Atlantic lacks nuance:

http://tinyurl.com/lhqfv8w

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 19, 2015 08:59 PM (AVEe1)

It figures they would circle the wagons, no truth can be allowed to be spoken un-contradicted.

Posted by: cm9000 at February 19, 2015 09:12 PM (8zCR+)

136 I served on USS Iwo Jima.... LPH-2

Thank you!

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:12 PM (doBIb)

137 For God's sake, let's please not forget the less than 1% who are serving now. With a horrible C-i-C, very little support from this lazy, weak, nation, and these young men and women are willing to pay the ultimate price, if this jackass, anti-American administration would let them.

At least our Greatest Generation didn't have a Marxist America-hating, muslim-sympathizer as C-i-C.

Can you imagine??

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:12 PM (FsuaD)

138 You would think. Yes they should be secret. Forewarned is forearmed. It's appalling and dangerous and absolutely will get OUR PEOPLE KILLED

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 09:13 PM (zOTsN)

139 Shouldn't those kinds of preparations be secret?
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 19, 2015 09:11 PM (hlbmD)

Well only if you plan on winning.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 19, 2015 09:13 PM (nzKvP)

140 Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 19, 2015 09:04 PM (LImiJ)

I owe you an apology. Last week I asked if you were a plaintiffs attorney. My bad.

Could use you in Milwaukee or Dane (Madison) Counties WI

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 19, 2015 09:14 PM (KJLlE)

141 138 You would think. Yes they should be secret. Forewarned is forearmed. It's appalling and dangerous and absolutely will get OUR PEOPLE KILLED

Seriously?

WTF???

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:14 PM (doBIb)

142 Can you imagine NBC producing a "Victory at Sea" today?

ha ha I make joke.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:14 PM (0FSuD)

143 Dear ISIS:

Our Spec Ops are coming for you in April/May. Exact date to be announced.

Bestest,

CENTCOM

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:14 PM (FsuaD)

144 How many Americans would never have been if they their buddies had failed then?

Posted by: Baldy at February 19, 2015 09:14 PM (+35FH)

145 "Then I think of the Baby Boomers that followed them and I wonder--what went wrong? How America go from flag raisers at Iwo Jima to flag burners on college campuses in twenty short years?"

I try to point out that the entire Boomer cohort was not made up of noisy lefty campus radicals.

What happened was that the latter group of Boomers got the vast majority of the media attention.

Because the media had tilted left long before the rest of the country even started in that direction. It was predominantly left even before Gramsci began blueprinting the 'long march'.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 19, 2015 09:15 PM (noWW6)

146 Those Japanese animals that raped and murdered their way throughout Southeast Asia now make tentacle porn and panty vending machines and are dying out.

Meanwhile, we've not fallen quite as far, but then we won the War.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 19, 2015 09:15 PM (MMC8r)

147 Let's not paint with too broad a brush.

My WWII vet Dad had two sons volunteer for that clusterfick in Viet Nam.

Both were baby boomers.

Not everyone was dropping acid at Woodstock.

Posted by: seamrog at February 19, 2015 09:15 PM (u2kJb)

148 137: we would be goose stepping and speaking German.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 19, 2015 09:15 PM (ucDmr)

149 Piece of volcanic shit. What a waste. It had to be done and we are so lucky that bad boys from every corner of our land had the grit to go and do the bad. We are still that lucky.

Posted by: goon at February 19, 2015 09:15 PM (gNTQS)

150 Seriously?

WTF???

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:14 PM (doBIb)

Yeah, I heard it on Fox earlier this evening. Suggested ace post it with a flaming skull.

Unbelievable.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:15 PM (FsuaD)

151 Dear Hessians,

I am going to attack you in your barracks in Trenton on Christmas Eve near midnight and retreat across the Delaware.

Sincerely,

George Washington

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 09:16 PM (zOTsN)

152 Unbelievable.

Why not give them GPS coordinates to while they're at it?

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:17 PM (doBIb)

153 102 It's amazing how tough that generation was. Then I think of the Baby Boomers that followed them and I wonder--what went wrong? How America go from flag raisers at Iwo Jima to flag burners on college campuses in twenty short years?

Can someone answer that question for me?
Posted by: Jax Jaguars at February 19, 2015 09:05 PM (c056A)

Every generation has its share of heroes and dirtbags. Every generation. No exceptions.

While some of the WWII generation were fighting for our freedom, others were undermining our society as part of the Communist conspiracy.

Some Boomers fought in Vietnam, and when they got home, they were spat on by other Boomers.

I am very partial to the book "The Fourth Turning". The authors have an interesting theory about how history moves in roughly 80-year cycles.

They say that the Millennial generation is analogous to the WWII generation.

I'm sure that in the 1930s, older people probably despaired at the silly unserious jitterbugging kids. Yet just a few years later, those same kids were flying B-17s and storming the beach at Tarawa.

After reading that book, I'm keeping my eye on the Millennials. Some of them fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm not selling them short.

Posted by: rickl at February 19, 2015 09:17 PM (sdi6R)

154 Those Japanese animals that raped and murdered their way throughout Southeast Asia now make tentacle porn and panty vending machines and are dying out.

Meanwhile, we've not fallen quite as far, but then we won the War.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 19, 2015 09:15 PM (MMC8r)

They've been too busy genetically engineering catgirls for domestic ownership.

Posted by: 政治的な帽子~ニャン at February 19, 2015 09:17 PM (0Ew3K)

155 Let's not paint with too broad a brush.

My WWII vet Dad had two sons volunteer for that clusterfick in Viet Nam.

Both were baby boomers.

Posted by: seamrog at February 19, 2015 09:17 PM (u2kJb)

156 If I were Jane D'oh McCrazypants, I'd swear that Hussein Obama wants to see our Spec Ops people slaughtered by ISIS.

That's just crazy talk, I know.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:18 PM (FsuaD)

157 ThunderB,
I pray for them because they have C-I-C that isn't worthy to wipe their boots.

Idiots! How dare they leak info on future mission? It's because he wants U.S. to lose or is this admin that Fing stupid?!

Posted by: Carol at February 19, 2015 09:18 PM (sj3Ax)

158 My boomer brother was an electric strawberry in Vietnam. He is 100 % disabled now

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 09:18 PM (zOTsN)

159 How many Americans would never have been if they their buddies had failed then?

Posted by: Baldy at February 19, 2015 09:14 PM (+35FH)

That makes me think about my butt-buddy Neil Smith, Neil are you here?

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 19, 2015 09:18 PM (8zCR+)

160 144 How many Americans would never have been if they their buddies had failed then?
Posted by: Baldy at February 19, 2015 09:14 PM (+35FH)

And at the same time, how many future businesses and inventions and novels and paintings and children got ground into the sand? Gah. I don't like to think about it.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at February 19, 2015 09:19 PM (yxw0r)

161 Yes. We should have just shot them in the arm.

-
We coulda just shot the guns outta their hands.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 19, 2015 09:19 PM (LImiJ)

162 Why not give them GPS coordinates to while they're at it?

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:17 PM (doBIb)

Where's Geraldo when you need him?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 19, 2015 09:20 PM (GEICT)

163 162 Why not give them GPS coordinates to while they're at it?

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:17 PM (doBIb)

Where's Geraldo when you need him?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 19, 2015 09:20 PM (GEICT)

I know right???

Let's give them plenty of warning to let them get ready for us.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:20 PM (doBIb)

164 Dear Hitler,

I am going to Omaha beach. Thought you should know or it wouldn't be fair

Xxxoooo

USA

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 09:21 PM (zOTsN)

165

Ira Hayes

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 19, 2015 09:21 PM (W5DcG)

166 >>> "Just remember, the Japanese are very polite and so much more civilized than Americans."

It is a true statement. If she equates polite with nice, well bless her heart!

Posted by: fluffy at February 19, 2015 09:21 PM (Ua6T/)

167 Seems appropriate.

http://tinyurl.com/kyltnow

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:21 PM (0FSuD)

168 I am going to Omaha beach. Thought you should know or it wouldn't be fair

P.S. We also broke your Enigma code.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:22 PM (doBIb)

169 D'oh Boy said that in A-stan if you fired your rifle and it wasn't in a fire fight, you literally had to fill out paperwork why you fired. And how many rounds.

The Greatest Generation didn't have to put up with this [redacted].

(Please let Lent be over soon so I can resume cursing.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:22 PM (FsuaD)

170 Every generation rebels. The boomers took it to the extreme. Throw in drugs, rock & roll, coddling by the greatest generation and leaving the church it was the perfect storm

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 19, 2015 09:23 PM (KJLlE)

171 Last week I asked if you were a plaintiffs attorney. My bad.

-
I'm a former defense attorney prosecutor.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 19, 2015 09:23 PM (LImiJ)

172
159 How many Americans would never have been if they their buddies had failed then?

Posted by: Baldy at February 19, 2015 09:14 PM (+35FH)

That makes me think about my butt-buddy Neil Smith, Neil are you here?
Posted by: Joe Biden at February

Stand up Chuck.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 19, 2015 09:24 PM (KJLlE)

173 Dear ISIS,

We're going to send Spc Ops to take back Mosul in April or May.

Just a polite heads up.

*fist bump*

Your friends in the Hussein Obama administration

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:24 PM (FsuaD)

174 http://tinyurl.com/kyltnow

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:21 PM (0FSuD)

I remember visiting the memorial and seeing some Japanese tourists smile and take pictures.

Took every fiber in my body to not punch them in their face.

The most moving part of the memorial was the space reserved for survivors who choose to have their remains interred with their fallen comrades.

Posted by: The Arizona Hat at February 19, 2015 09:24 PM (0Ew3K)

175
BBC: The US official added that the Mosul operation would be needed by May, otherwise it would be compromised by the summer heat, although he added that it could be delayed if the Iraqi forces were not ready.

Ah, the "scorching Iraqi Summer" that makes military operations impossible* appears once again. Suddenly, it's 2003 again.

*except for, you know, all the military operations that have occurred during other Iraqi Summers.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 19, 2015 09:24 PM (kdS6q)

176 "And at the same time, how many future businesses and inventions and novels and paintings and children got ground into the sand?"

I think about that a lot (is that weird?). One of my grandpas was an aircraft mechanic who never left his home state after being drafted. The other was nearly killed 10 times over as a Marine in Korea.

Yet they both made it, raised families, had normal jobs and normal lives. It's mind boggling to think that standing a few feet to the left or right can mean generations upon generations of children and grand children exist...or don't.

Posted by: Lauren at February 19, 2015 09:25 PM (MYCIw)

177 Every generation rebels. The boomers took it to the extreme. Throw in drugs, rock & roll, coddling by the greatest generation and leaving the church it was the perfect storm

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 19, 2015 09:23 PM (KJLlE)

Don't for get us!

Posted by: The Useful Fools of the Gramscian March at February 19, 2015 09:25 PM (0Ew3K)

178 Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:22 PM (doBIb)

How ya doing EC?.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 19, 2015 09:25 PM (KJLlE)

179 Let's not leave out the Marines.

http://tinyurl.com/l7vbkam

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:25 PM (0FSuD)

180 See telling them to release mission specifics makes him sound like a "badass". And also forces them to cancel it

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 09:26 PM (zOTsN)

181 Every generation rebels. The boomers took it to the
extreme. Throw in drugs, rock roll, coddling by the greatest
generation and leaving the church it was the perfect storm

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 19, 2015 09:23 PM (KJLlE)

And that is the whirlwind we are reaping now.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 19, 2015 09:26 PM (8zCR+)

182 Unless he just wants to kill our best operators

Now why would he do that

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 09:26 PM (zOTsN)

183 I have no doubt the leak was done to force cancellation.

Posted by: OG CELTIC-AMERICAN at February 19, 2015 09:27 PM (XlFLJ)

184 "And also forces them to cancel it"

Which I'm sure is the goal.

Posted by: Lauren at February 19, 2015 09:27 PM (MYCIw)

185 Took every fiber in my body to not punch them in their face.

The most moving part of the memorial was the space reserved for
survivors who choose to have their remains interred with their fallen
comrades.

Posted by: The Arizona Hat at February 19, 2015 09:24 PM (0Ew3K)

Have you been lately? The Missouri, where they surrendered, is now docked next to the Arizona memorial.

How you like the taste of our ass now slant eye?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:27 PM (0FSuD)

186 Megyn Kelly trying to take down Guilliani for his Obama comments.

Shut up, Megyn. You've been in New York too long.

Oooh, Guilliani brings up Frank Marshall Davis!!

Heh.

Shut up, Megyn!!! Idiot. "To suggest he was raised by people who didn't love America...."

Her hair dye has eaten into her brain.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:28 PM (FsuaD)

187 "182 Unless he just wants to kill our best operators "

Like that "mysterious" attack on the Seal Team 6 chopper?

Posted by: Lauren at February 19, 2015 09:28 PM (MYCIw)

188 Iraqi army brigades going to take back Mosul.

I need to think about this.

Posted by: Phillipi Tesphousterous at February 19, 2015 09:29 PM (1H6kg)

189 There is a plan for everything Oasshat does. This was not an accident. He wants this country to fail at everything. I loathe that asshole.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 19, 2015 09:29 PM (ucDmr)

190 Have you been lately? The Missouri, where they surrendered, is now docked next to the Arizona memorial.

How you like the taste of our ass now slant eye?
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:27 PM

Have another swig Nip

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 19, 2015 09:29 PM (KJLlE)

191
Our family has a long history of military service, dating back to the Revolutionary War.

We cover all the Branches, and range from one and done to a career.

I wore the uniform with PRIDE, but I'm humbled by these young men and women serving today.

It makes the constant betrayal of them that I witness nearly unbearable.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 19, 2015 09:29 PM (jeCnD)

192 The release of the plans could be disinformation. You know, kinda sneaky like. Cause our top men are smart like that.

Posted by: freaked at February 19, 2015 09:29 PM (JdEZJ)

193 She must have voted for him

It's so hard to admit you were fooled

Nobody likes to feel stupid

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 09:30 PM (zOTsN)

194 Anyone remember the draft lottery ?

Your Birthday determined where you would be ranked for being drafted into the Military.

It ended when I was ending High School.

Kind of like the Viking concept of the Narns (sp)

weaving the thread of your life.

You have no control of fate.

Nowadays there would be a lawsuit about profiling men due to their zodiac sign.

Posted by: seamrog at February 19, 2015 09:30 PM (u2kJb)

195 Husband and I visited the Arizona Memorial.

We experienced mugging, grinning, Japanese tourists. I wanted to vomit.

I've never been so disgusted.

Hoping some day to visit Nagasaki and grin and mug in front of their memorial.

Except I wouldn't. It's called class.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:31 PM (FsuaD)

196 Have another swig Nip

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 19, 2015 09:29 PM (KJLlE)

ha ha. It's Lent, I am off.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:31 PM (0FSuD)

197 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:24 PM (FsuaD)

Obama is in secret talks with the Islamic State. That explains the reticence to launch raids into the area, the hunker down ROE, the stupid PC bullshit flowing out of the State Department, and general deliberate sabotage of the American establishment's push to fight the bastards.

I'd bet on it.

Posted by: Df82 at February 19, 2015 09:31 PM (d6Wn7)

198 He is trolling so fucking hard. I hate him

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 09:31 PM (zOTsN)

199 Like a good neighbor, State Farm Ensurance is there.

Posted by: Ian Galt at February 19, 2015 09:31 PM (dmepw)

200 The Missouri, where they surrendered, is now docked next to the Arizona memorial.

It's too bad the USS Indianapolis isn't available to join them.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 19, 2015 09:32 PM (W5DcG)

201 I sure hope that we will, at the very least, drop leaflets on Mosul during the week before we watch the Iraqis abandon the mission. We should explain about our terrible atrocities at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, you know, the human pyramids and loud music and every beheading that we made them watch, and then tell them about the really cool Jobs-For-Jihad's program that we have planned. That should make it easier for our gun-dropping-run-for-your-life allies to retake the city.

Posted by: goon at February 19, 2015 09:32 PM (gNTQS)

202 Have you been lately? The Missouri, where they surrendered, is now docked next to the Arizona memorial.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:27 PM (0FSuD)

I was there about four and a half years ago.

Posted by: The Memorial Hat at February 19, 2015 09:33 PM (0Ew3K)

203 Husband and I visited the Arizona Memorial.

We experienced mugging, grinning, Japanese tourists. I wanted to vomit.

Hand them pictures of a nuclear explosion.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 19, 2015 09:33 PM (W5DcG)

204

I'd bet on it.
Posted by: Df82 at February 19, 2015 09:31 PM (d6Wn7)

I wouldn't. But I would bet on his negotiations and surrender to Iran

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 19, 2015 09:34 PM (KJLlE)

205 Hand them pictures of a nuclear explosion.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 19, 2015 09:33 PM (W5DcG)

Ride up in a "Fat Boy" Harley.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:34 PM (0FSuD)

206 Nah. I have convinced myself. He told them to blab. Then he sounds like a badass. And it will be cancelled. And he will blame them for doing nothing. All part of "Strategic Patience"

Posted by: ThunderB, Shapeshifter at February 19, 2015 09:34 PM (zOTsN)

207 "We experienced mugging, grinning, Japanese tourists. I wanted to vomit."

I've heard this from family who have visited the Memorial.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 19, 2015 09:35 PM (vSCtH)

208 nood.

crazy lady offers to flip on marijuana if she is referred to as a nice girl...

Posted by: The Florida Hat at February 19, 2015 09:35 PM (0Ew3K)

209 Like that "mysterious" attack on the Seal Team 6 chopper?

Posted by: Lauren at February 19, 2015 09:28 PM (MYCIw)

Yeah, those parents who have questions. At least one set of parents said their son was concerned because at the last minute, there was an exchange of locals on the copter. He was nervous.

And now he's dead, along with the others.

I don't trust a single person in this administration. Not one.

Our son wanted to re-up but wouldn't because he didn't trust his C-i-C. And I'm glad he didn't. And several of his buddies did the same.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:36 PM (FsuaD)

210 ValJar is pulling the strings on everything happening now. Monkey boy is just a puppet for her schemes. Let's see, where was she raised?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 19, 2015 09:36 PM (ucDmr)

211 207 "We experienced mugging, grinning, Japanese tourists. I wanted to vomit."

I've heard this from family who have visited the Memorial.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 19, 2015 09:35

Where's that damn Bears fan when you need him?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 19, 2015 09:36 PM (KJLlE)

212 I've been twice and there are Japanese there, but each time I was there they were very respectful.

They take a lot of pictures, but I never saw any disrespect.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:37 PM (0FSuD)

213 "Obama is in secret talks with the Islamic State."

He is openly negotiating with the Taliban in Qatar as reported by NBC news.

http://tinyurl.com/pnl9ryc

However, it seems that Obama's official media representative is dissembling with qualifiers.

National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan said that "United States currently has no meetings with the Taliban scheduled in Doha."

Posted by: Phillipi Tesphousterous at February 19, 2015 09:37 PM (1H6kg)

214 MK does seem to have gone full bore progtard lately. Think she might want that job at nbc?

Posted by: GMB World Class Tyrant at February 19, 2015 09:37 PM (C8x6r)

215 some Iwo trivia.

By this stage of the war, Japan knew US had *far* too much fire power to allow Japanese troops to fight in the open. So they knew they would be in bunkers the whole battle. Marine knew it too and almost all the riflemen went in with the M1 carbine instead of the rifle. better in cramped spaces.

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Japanese commander had studied previous Marine assaults and was able to predict their schedule. He chose not to oppose the landing and waited a couple of hours until there was maximum congestion on the beach... THEN he had his artillery fire.

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The Japanese positions inside Mt. Suribachi (vast and complex - SIX LEVELS) were never captured. Marines closed off the entrances. To this day, nobody has gone in.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 19, 2015 09:37 PM (h53OH)

216 Dear General Hooker,

How are you? I am fine.

I know you were planning to advance from Chancellorville to Fredericksburg but actually I'm going to hit you on your right flank. So maybe you ought to tighten up that flank.

Best wishes,

Stonewall Jackson

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 19, 2015 09:38 PM (LImiJ)

217 174
I remember visiting the memorial and seeing some Japanese tourists smile and take pictures.

Took every fiber in my body to not punch them in their face.

Posted by: The Arizona Hat at February 19, 2015 09:24 PM (0Ew3K)

Go to Hiroshima and smile and take pictures.

Posted by: rickl at February 19, 2015 09:39 PM (sdi6R)

218 Anyone remember the draft lottery ?

For my birth year (1953), it was a double draw, birthday vs selection number. I believe the first year it was done, there was only a single draw, birthdate, starting at selection number 1 and going to 365.

IIRC, the lottery was on a Monday. By Tuesday, AFROTC went from a Wing to a Group in size.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 19, 2015 09:42 PM (brIR5)

219 In David McCullough's bio on Harry Truman, it was reported that after making the decision to drop an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, he slept soundly that night.

Posted by: Mike at February 19, 2015 09:43 PM (c056A)

220 178 Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:22 PM (doBIb)

How ya doing EC?.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 19, 2015 09:25 PM (KJLlE)

So far so good.

Still waiting to hear back from a possible job prospect. Maybe next week.

I've just been parked at home, slowly driving the wife crazy. Being a couch ~~fucker~~ potato is no fun. I'm bored out of my mind. I have been going in to work a couple of times to do some final shutdown stuff. They still haven't told me my last day yet.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2015 09:44 PM (doBIb)

221 I was there about four and a half years ago.

Posted by: The Memorial Hat at February 19, 2015 09:33 PM (0Ew3K)

I visited the Missouri on the last weekend it was in the Seattle area, just before it went to Hawaii. It was complete serendipity. And I visited the Arizona prior to that. To me, very sobering.
I took a picture of the American flag from the memorial looking up through the opening. It hangs on my wall to this day.

Posted by: Ian Galt at February 19, 2015 09:44 PM (dmepw)

222 Again, thanks Dave

Everyone else has corgied to the Debbie Washyoursnatch Schlitz post.

says a lot, don't it ?

Posted by: seamrog at February 19, 2015 09:44 PM (u2kJb)

223 They've been too busy genetically engineering catgirls for domestic ownership.

C'mel

Posted by: Fox2! at February 19, 2015 09:48 PM (brIR5)

224 Thank you for posting this.

I am the proud daughter of a WWII Marine, Pacific Theater,
1st Marine Division, participated in New Guinea, New Britain and Peleliu. My hero, always. Not a day goes by that I do not miss him and think of him.

May all these heroes RIP and/or know, today, how proud and thankful we are of them. If you ever see one of these fine men with their WWII hats, or any veteran, please thank them while you can.

The WWII men, every time I thank them and shake their hand, look so surprised and pleased and it brings tears to my eyes... every time. It just makes their day. They were the most humble men. And they built this nation that others are trying to tear down. The WWII Museum in both DC and New Orleans are places to visit. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 19, 2015 09:48 PM (dMEBN)

225 207 "We experienced mugging, grinning, Japanese tourists. I wanted to vomit."

Sigh. I've mentioned this before, but Japanese grin like cats eating shit when they're embarrassed. It's kind of like chicks here putting their hands over their mouths when they're surprised. We interpret their grinning as amusement, but in reality, it's profound embarrassment.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 19, 2015 09:48 PM (oKE6c)

226 167
Seems appropriate.

http://tinyurl.com/kyltnow

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 19, 2015 09:21 PM (0FSuD)
--------Thanks Nip. It always get dusty when I hear that hymn.
There are two dvd series. One is the Crusade in Europe and that follows DDE's book of the same name. The Crusade in the Pacific was sort of a companion release.Victory at Sea. I used to sneak out of my bed at night to watch it. I thought I was pretty sneaky, but Mom and Dad knew I was there and let me watch anyway. When I was twelve I bought the albums Victory at Sea because I loved the music so much.God bless every man and woman who has born arms for our country.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 19, 2015 09:49 PM (AxABj)

227 "Everyone else has corgied to the Debbie Washyoursnatch Schlitz post."

Not everyone. We can keep this one running if anyone's interested.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 19, 2015 09:49 PM (vSCtH)

228 Husband and I visited the Arizona Memorial.

We experienced mugging, grinning, Japanese tourists. I wanted to vomit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2015 09:31 PM (FsuaD)
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When I was in Singapore I visited the surrender chambers museum on Sentosa Island that had a waxworks recreation of the British signing the surrender to the Japanese. A gaggle of young twenty-something Japanese laughed, jostled their way through the crowd, and yelled "Banzai!".

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 19, 2015 09:50 PM (KH1sk)

229 I am the proud daughter of a WWII Marine, Pacific Theater,

1st Marine Division, participated in New Guinea, New Britain and
Peleliu. My hero, always. Not a day goes by that I do not miss him and
think of him.

And I'm the proud son of one, a member of the 4th Marine Division, who participated in the operations on Saipan, Tinian, Roi Namur, and of course Iwo Jima - where he was awarded a battlefield promotion. (After he died, on going through his things, I found the roster of his company, of which he'd been first sergeant. It turns out hey'd suffered 85% casualties on Iwo Jima. Of the 240 men who landed, 40 survived unwounded. Forty.)

After the war he was sent to OCS, and ultimately retired as a full colonel.

Damn I'm proud of him. And I miss him, too. Here's to you, Pop.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 19, 2015 09:53 PM (oKE6c)

230 "We experienced mugging, grinning, Japanese tourists. I wanted to vomit."

I've heard this from family who have visited the Memorial.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 19, 2015 09:35

Where's that damn Bears fan when you need him?

Meh, old Hawaii joke, don't know if the Bears fan has heard it, though,

Why do so many Japanese visit Hawaii?
It's their favorite folk village.

(aka Williamsburg, Henry Ford Museum, etc.)

Hawaii, with so many Japanese immigrants, is like Japan pre-WWII.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 19, 2015 09:54 PM (NaeCR)

231 The thread continues........

Thanks.

More important than some dem slut selling out again.

Posted by: seamrog at February 19, 2015 09:55 PM (u2kJb)

232 And for your feel-good moment...

Philippines Campaign -

336,000 Japanese KIA
vs.
14,000 American Forces KIA.

24::1 kill ratio

No wonder the 7+/- survivors hung low until the 70s

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 19, 2015 10:02 PM (NaeCR)

233 Long live the Corps! And Bobs toast at 71 is perfect.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 19, 2015 10:03 PM (60Vyp)

234 I learned some things about the War I didn't know. Thanks to everyone whose fathers and mothers served.

Posted by: HugoStiglitz at February 19, 2015 10:04 PM (Moh0M)

235 The Marine Corps Museum in Virginia had a docent who was a vet of Iwo Jima. Highly informative. You get a simulated ride to the beach in an assault craft (LCI?). Anyway, a great museum. Much recommended.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 19, 2015 10:05 PM (u82oZ)

236 Gotta watch "Sands of Iwo Jima" again!

"Saddle up!"

Posted by: RKae at February 19, 2015 10:08 PM (AcYQx)

237 @229...may he RIP, Jay. I am so glad my Daddy died just days before the reign of the Purple-lipped Pouty Prancercizer. Although he would have laughed at the tardisil...it has to nearly kill these brave men who see this now after freeing the world from Hitler and the Emperor. I rage for them.

My Daddy was the kindest, most generous, funniest, good man alive. Best father award. His innate kindness was who I was looking for and found in my husband. He and Daddy met only four days before our wedding, as we were in college out of state, and the wedding was at home in Mississippi. And I married a Yankee to complete the picture. He and my father hit it off immediately. Of course, upon meeting him, Daddy told him he should know "he was getting the short end of the stick." People loved him for his humor, but also his goodness. He thought I hung the moon, and he told my husband I was a "pistol." I am a very lucky Duchess.

There was never a day I doubted my father's love. Moron men: teach and show that for your daughters (and sons).

I was my father's only daughter. I did not date much in HS, not because I got hit by the ugly stick, but because most of the "boys" were goobers who wanted to wrestle in the drive-in and, crap, I would rather watch tv with parents or read a good book. The very few boys I dated never were greeted at the door by Daddy. He never met them and left it to my mother. He never waited up for me, either. I asked him why, long after I was married, and he said he trusted me and felt I could "take care of myself" (in other words, he knew I would physically harm someone if they messed with me, I guess). If you have a father you can still talk to, be thankful, and call him tomorrow. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba at February 19, 2015 10:12 PM (dMEBN)

238 237 ChristyB now looks like Duchess of Alba

Well said.

I trust your move goes well. Best wishes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 19, 2015 11:08 PM (u82oZ)

239 My Dad was radio operator on PBM Seaplanes that were at Iwo. I have some pics he too from aboard a ship (most likely the USS Tangier). He told me a couple of stories about his time there.

Posted by: lynn at February 20, 2015 12:28 AM (AjrEe)

240 More on Iwo Jima here:
http://vaviper.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-assault-on-iwo-jima-started-70.html

Posted by: debby at February 20, 2015 10:29 AM (bPsJJ)

241 I am so blessed to have grown up being able to know and converse with numerous WWII vets. My dad, a USMC Korean War combat wounded vet, knew a lot of WWII vets via VFW and would take me with him sometimes where I could listen to their conversations. What an inspiration; so much so I also joined the USMC and am a Vietnam era vet.

Posted by: Semper Fi at February 20, 2015 10:47 AM (Hvtem)

242 We could open up a job center in Mosul for disaffected unemployed ISIS jihadis. Make them wait in line on benches in a waiting area, and then bomb the building while the employees go to lunch.

Posted by: torabora at February 20, 2015 10:57 AM (GgyOw)

243 I am writing a magazine article on Col. Harry Liversedge who lead the 28th RCT on IJ. They had responsibility for the far left flank (Green Beach) including Mt. Suribachi (where they famously raised that flag). The 28th landed and then, with the courageous examples of Col. Liversedge and his XO, jumped up under fire and raced the 800 yards across the island to cut-off Suribachi from Japanese reinforcements. They ended up spending 6 weeks in constant combat on that island.
Initial estimates were that it would take 4 days.

I strongly recommend "The Lions of Iwo Jima' to those of you who want a real close-up view of what happened on 'Sulfur Island'.
I had uncles who landed on Tarawa, Saipan and Pelileu and also fought in the Battle of Okinawa. Those men and their comrades are like gods to me and I can't write this without crying.
God blessed us when He gave us such people.

Posted by: livermoron at February 20, 2015 12:23 PM (NWLuD)

244 A late friend of mine (passed away in December 2012) was an 18 year old who joined the USMC the day after Pearl Harbor. The Marines thought they needed paratroopers so he was trained as on at Gillespie Field San Diego; by June '42, the USMC figured they didn't need paratroopers. Larry went ashore at Guadalcanal; then again at Tarawa, and finally at Iwo Jima. Stayed in the reserves after WW II and as the cherry on the sundae of his "high school graduation trip", he was at Chosin Reservoir in Korea.

But like a lot of the vets who stayed alive through the wars, he came home, had a career (as an insurance sales executive) married and raised a family. He didn't talk much about what he'd done. But I never doubted he'd do it again without regrets.

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