Greece, Germany Spar Over Debt

Get this: Greece wants to not pay back the billions it has borrowed from Germany, and in fact would very much to like to borrow billions more (which it will also not repay, so I don't know what "borrow" means here), and Germany, for its part, would like its billions of dollars back, and definitely would not like to give Greece even more billions.

The EU is coming apart. All of Europe wanted to jack into Germany's super-stable currency and generally positive economic profile. But this was all Cargo Cult. They just wanted the benefits of German fiscal and economic policy. They didn't want to actually pursue the thrifty and responsible habits of the Germans that produces these economic benefits.

So for a decade, what these countries have been doing is spending just as insanely as they ever had, only now they were back-stopped with German currency. Oh, I know the call it a "Euro," but that Euro's value is guaranteed by German banks.

And Greece is now saying: We took money from you for a decade and wasted it, and we intend to waste billions more, and there's nothing you can do to stop us, except kick us out of the EU, which we know you won't do, so there's nothing you can do but continue to subsidize us like rotten, hooligan teenagers.

And while Germany is threatening Greece that they had better buckle down and get on some program that will bring them to a point of financial viability, they're like parents threatening their freeloading hooligan teenage kids: They're not going to carry out the threat and they know it.

So here's Greece saying "F*ck you old man, give me more money to spend on flashy cars and dirty women."

(Reuters) - Greece and its euro zone partners engaged in brinkmanship on Monday, with leftist Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras insisting his country would not extend its reform-linked bailout and Germany saying it would get no more money without such a program.
European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker warned Greeks not to expect the euro zone to bow to Tsipras' demands in a growing confrontation which spooked financial markets and prompted U.S. and Canadian pleas for calm and compromise.
Escalating the rhetoric, Greece's finance minister said the euro zone could collapse "like a house of cards" if Athens were forced out.
A Greek finance official said he did not believe Juncker, IMF chief Christine Lagarde or German Chancellor Angela Merkel would let Greece go bankrupt, but Merkel said Greece needed to come up with a sustainable proposal.

There's an old saying: If you owe a bank a million dollars, you've got a problem. But if you owe a bank a hundred million dollars, the bank has a problem.

Germany might have the problem here with Greece.

France, a country with northern-european charm and southern-european financial discipline, sides with Greece, because France is sucking billions of dollars out of Germany too and would also like More Billions of Free German Marks Too Please.

France expressed sympathy for the new Greek government's hope of renegotiating the tough terms of its bailout, amid growing international calls for Germany to rethink its austerity-heavy approach to the debt crises in Greece and Europe.
...
His comments--and similar remarks by President Barack Obama --are the latest example of a pushback in Europe and beyond against Berlin's handling of the eurozone debt crisis. Germany, Europe's biggest economy, has pressed since 2010 for tight fiscal and monetary policies as the best way to force other countries to adopt supply-side overhauls to make them more frugal and competitive...

This could turn into the fabled "Grexit," or "Greek Exit from the Euro Zone."

I hope so. This is ridiculous.

Posted by: Ace at 06:08 PM

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1 Thanks Ace!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 09, 2015 06:09 PM (5kNXS)

2 *Rolls around in the roomy Rain Man free thread*

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 09, 2015 06:10 PM (eLjug)

3 If I'm Germany, I'm thinking that I might need some hard assets, like, oh, the Greek coastline, to offset the losses from these "loans".

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 09, 2015 06:11 PM (d7H2D)

4 You know............Crusades!

Posted by: Emperor Barry The Delusional at February 09, 2015 06:11 PM (DLu2s)

5 Now we only have to wait for China's Potemkin Village approach to economics to collapse and we'll be able to celebrate in the wreckage of the global economy!

Well, maybe celebrate will be too strong a word, is there a German word like schadenfreude that also contains a sense of gibbering panic?

Posted by: Austin in TX at February 09, 2015 06:11 PM (VCMpV)

6 I can haz German money too?

Posted by: California at February 09, 2015 06:12 PM (GuwT9)

7 Germany asks Europe about Greece, "Who bitch this is?"

Posted by: jmel at February 09, 2015 06:12 PM (XlgA+)

8 Don't the Germans owe a bunch of something to Greece? You know, to be fair and all.

Posted by: freaked at February 09, 2015 06:12 PM (JdEZJ)

9 How do you say "Free Shit Army" in Greek?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 06:12 PM (FsuaD)

10
I think Germany should expel all its Turkish immigrants to Greece.

PROBLEM SOLVED!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:13 PM (CMkNk)

11 9 How do you say "Free Shit Army" in Greek?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 06:12 PM (FsuaD)

Cheeboygah, Cheeboygah?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:13 PM (CMkNk)

12 Anyone with half a brain knew that Greece would not repay those loans. They simply did not have the will to give up their socialist ways and they surrendered to the Greek FSA.

And we are in the same boat. It will just take longer to collapse in a wave of inflation.

Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2015 06:13 PM (wlDny)

13 Germany could exit the Euro instead.

Imagine the havoc?

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 06:13 PM (k19Aq)

14 9 How do you say "Free Shit Army" in Greek?
Posted by: Jane D'oh

In the Greek free shit army, the never leave their buddies' behind.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at February 09, 2015 06:14 PM (GuwT9)

15 Kriege wurden für weniger gekämpft.

Posted by: Phinn at February 09, 2015 06:14 PM (9uh2V)

16 Remember, all of this is the fault of those horrible evil people on the Right who predicted this would happen when the EU and Euro were first instituted.

Because Cassandra.

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us SMOD at February 09, 2015 06:14 PM (IrByp)

17 Well, I guess Germany has 3 options:

1) Kick Greece out.

2) Take their Marks and go home, and eat popcorn while the rest of Europe burns--after the chaos, they'd be set up to exploit the rebuilding period like the US after WW2.

3) Pay a visit, and by pay a visit I mean annexation.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 09, 2015 06:14 PM (d7H2D)

18 "Beware of Greeks bearing giant empty urns and shit-eating grins."

-- Homer

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2015 06:14 PM (8ZskC)

19 14 In the Greek free shit army, the never leave their buddies' behind.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at February 09, 2015 06:14 PM (GuwT9)

It's the shit that leaves the behind.

Eww.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:14 PM (CMkNk)

20 The Greek exit doesn't sound like the smart thing. It seems like the smart thing would be for a German exit.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 09, 2015 06:14 PM (z/Ubi)

21 Hey dude!

We're so lonely

good thing the Germans paid for me

Posted by: 2004 Olympic venues at February 09, 2015 06:14 PM (q+zA9)

22 Lest we forget, Goldman Sachs helped Greece lie its way into the EU with the use of derivatives, but has never been called to account.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2015 06:15 PM (EPEqj)

23 We gave the world the Olympics and buttfucking and this is the thanks we get?

Posted by: The Greeks at February 09, 2015 06:15 PM (8ZskC)

24 Didn't the Germans go to Greece in 1941? Why not go back?

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2015 06:16 PM (08Znv)

25 Ayn Rand e-mailed and said that Greece wants the aristocracy of merit to be replaced by the aristocracy of pull.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 09, 2015 06:16 PM (I8YZX)

26
Amazing how most American Greeks are hardworking, industrious, G-d fearing and patriotic Americans. At least all the ones I've ever encountered.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:16 PM (CMkNk)

27 We got potsherds. You want potsherds?

Posted by: The Greeks at February 09, 2015 06:16 PM (8ZskC)

28 This could turn into the fabled "Grexit," or "Greek Exit from the Euro Zone."

I hope so. This is ridiculous.
Posted by Ace

And Italy's exit. And, and, and...

"100% Debt-to-GDP List

1. Italy 133%
2. Portugal 129.4%
3. Ireland 116.7%
4. Cyprus 112.2%
5. Belgium 105.1%
6. Greece 174.9%
7. Spain 100.3% (2015 estimate)
8. France 100% (2015 estimate)"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 09, 2015 06:16 PM (DMJw2)

29 This is like half as bad as what the British did in Malaya in the 1950's

for realz

Posted by: Arlen Specter at February 09, 2015 06:17 PM (q+zA9)

30 Greece is trying to weasel out of this debt by claiming that Germany owes "reparations" for WWII.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 09, 2015 06:17 PM (I8YZX)

31 Grab my lamp. I'm outta this shithole.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2015 06:17 PM (8ZskC)

32 "The problem with Socialism is that, eventually, you run out of other countries' money."

Posted by: Null at February 09, 2015 06:17 PM (xjpRj)

33 22 Lest we forget, Goldman Sachs helped Greece lie its way into the EU with the use of derivatives, but has never been called to account.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2015 06:15 PM (EPEqj)

So, what you're saying is, Jooz?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:17 PM (CMkNk)

34 Everyone is kicking the can down the road as far as they can.

Greece, EU, Germany, China, Obama and the US. Russia, Argentina, Venezuela, KSA...

Eventually someone's road ends in a dead end. And then the fun starts.

Will it be the Iranian Nukes?
Russian
Economic collapse in China or the EU or South America or the US? Or all of the above in a chain reaction?
The mid-east?

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 06:18 PM (k19Aq)

35 26
Amazing how most American Greeks are hardworking, industrious, G-d fearing and patriotic Americans. At least all the ones I've ever encountered.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:16 PM (CMkNk)

I had the biggest crush on the Greek girl who sat in front of me at PS 104. Holy baklava.

'Course, that was 5th grade, before the hair really kicked in.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at February 09, 2015 06:18 PM (vgIRn)

36 Greece: Hey, Germany - give us ur money!
Germany: Why? Gimme one good reason.
Greece: Hey, Nazis - give us ur Nazi money, you nazis!! There. Is that a good enough reason, nazis! Also ur nazi, nazis.

Posted by: Greece Progtards at February 09, 2015 06:19 PM (ZPrif)

37 @22 - the problem with pinning that one on Goldman is that basically all the rest of the EU knew Greece was lying, in fact pretty much detailed the parameters of the fraud that the Greeks needed to cook up in order to get in.

Posted by: Michelle Kosinski at February 09, 2015 06:19 PM (o+SC1)

38 The Greeks are in arrears. Shocking.

Posted by: Aviator at February 09, 2015 06:19 PM (3rrMW)

39 'Course, that was 5th grade, before the hair really kicked in.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at February 09, 2015 06:18 PM (vgIRn)

too bad you've never see my finished product

Posted by: Nina's house of waxing at February 09, 2015 06:19 PM (q+zA9)

40

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:17 PM (CMkNk)

There is a reason Obama is called President Goldman Sachs and it isn't because of his love for the chosen people.

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 06:19 PM (k19Aq)

41 Didn't these Euro-clowns learn from the last two times this shit happened?

Thankfully, we have Barry Badass to lay down some history, yo.

Posted by: Fritz at February 09, 2015 06:20 PM (dVmLD)

42 9 How do you say "Free Shit Army" in Greek?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 06:12 PM (FsuaD)

blah, blah, blah. Free Shit Army blah, blah, blah.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 06:20 PM (WNERA)

43 35 I had the biggest crush on the Greek girl who sat in front of me at PS 104. Holy baklava.

'Course, that was 5th grade, before the hair really kicked in.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at February 09, 2015 06:18 PM (vgIRn)

They had the best names. And food for lunch! Felt horrible trading a tuna on wet rye toast for moussaka with Evangelia Costantakos.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:20 PM (CMkNk)

44 Wait, Greeks are white people?

now that changes my calculations

Posted by: Barak Obbamma at February 09, 2015 06:20 PM (q+zA9)

45 Let he who is without $20 trillion in debt cast the first stone.

Posted by: Barky I Numbnuts at February 09, 2015 06:21 PM (8ZskC)

46 Germany made 2 huge mistakes:

1) The Jewish thing

2) Invading Russia

If not for that the World would be a very different place today.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:21 PM (rDqRv)

47 @38 - you mean even after all that money the EU stole from the Russian crooks (no honor among thieves) that thought their assets were safely hidden in Cyprus, they're still in shit?

Posted by: JEM at February 09, 2015 06:21 PM (o+SC1)

48 It seems that when a country becomes Socialist, it's very similar to when a person becomes a zombie. There is a cure, but they're not going to like it.

Posted by: Null at February 09, 2015 06:21 PM (xjpRj)

49 I think this is going to be the death of the Global Economy ... and possibly Fiat Currency.

And very possibly multiple Hot Wars, as countries fight over who pays who.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 09, 2015 06:21 PM (9N5vm)

50 Those people have hated us forever, pretty much. So, I don't feel too badly about telling them to get out into the streets, burn down their neighborhoods, crucify their benefactors, yell for more freebies, you know, do all of the Leftist stuff that always has worked in the past. Oh, yeah, and throw in some climate change for spice.

Almost makes me wish that I was a Muslim, or a Russian. Those folks, at least, have a world view that doesn't ONLY hate the West. Just hate everybody!

Posted by: goon at February 09, 2015 06:21 PM (gNTQS)

51

You want moussaka.
You'd settle for spanakopita.
You'll get shit on a shingle.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:22 PM (CMkNk)

52 >>>How do you say "Free Shit Army" in Greek?<<<

I don't know about Greek, but it's pronounced "blitzkrieg" in German.

Posted by: Fritz at February 09, 2015 06:22 PM (dVmLD)

53 44 Wait, Greeks are white people?

now that changes my calculations
Posted by: Barak Obbamma at February 09, 2015 06:20 PM (q+zA9)

Swarthy olive skinned.

(Barry retrieves his SS approved Pantone color chart)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:22 PM (CMkNk)

54 Go here

http://tinyurl.com/boz5n2c

scroll all the way down to the bottom and look at the "Trustworthy" category.

Yeah.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 09, 2015 06:23 PM (0xTsz)

55 Stingy ass Germans, cause " to each according to what they can whine for or extort" , "from each as much as can be bled", or some such Commie/ grievance class bullshit.

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 06:23 PM (5+mPY)

56 it it time yet?

Posted by: Preference Cascade at February 09, 2015 06:23 PM (q+zA9)

57 52 >>>How do you say "Free Shit Army" in Greek?

I don't know about Greek, but it's pronounced "blitzkrieg" in German.
Posted by: Fritz at February 09, 2015 06:22 PM (dVmLD)

Frei Sheiss Armee.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:23 PM (CMkNk)

58 I hate the EU, and for all I care they can go fuck themselves, HOWEVER, There is that little problem of the Bear in the East and a weak shit sister in Washington DC.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:24 PM (rDqRv)

59 Greece is trying to weasel out of this debt by claiming that Germany owes "reparations" for WWII.

To which the Germans should say, "Ok, that covers the money we already gave you. Now, what are you going to sell to us, now that you have wasted your reparations?"

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 09, 2015 06:24 PM (lQHgW)

60 46 If not for that the World would be a very different place today.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:21 PM (rDqRv)

Shultz promised us frauleins mit beautiful glockenspiels.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:24 PM (CMkNk)

61 "F*ck you old man, give me more money to spend on flashy cars and dirty women."
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That's what we call INVESTMENT bitter clingers.

Though dirty women? Ewwww....

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 09, 2015 06:24 PM (5DM9u)

62 51 You'll get shit on a shingle.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:22 PM (CMkNk)

I like shit on a shingle

Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2015 06:24 PM (wlDny)

63 56 it it time yet?

Posted by: Preference Cascade at February 09, 2015 06:23 PM (q+zA9)

Soon.

Posted by: Eurozone Thunderdome at February 09, 2015 06:25 PM (d7H2D)

64 BUT BUT BUT climate change and gay rights

Strategic Patience baby!

Posted by: Fredo at February 09, 2015 06:25 PM (rDqRv)

65 62 I like shit on a shingle
Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2015 06:24 PM (wlDny)

I traded the Greek girl for homemade moussaka upthread.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:25 PM (CMkNk)

66 #Elitistproblems

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 06:25 PM (oFCZn)

67 I invented the information super highway y'know

Posted by: Al Gore Jr. at February 09, 2015 06:25 PM (q+zA9)

68 Before you get on your high horse and criticize Greece for failing to adopt a sane fiscal policy remember Germany's role in WWI and the Holocaust.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 09, 2015 06:25 PM (ufrZ6)

69 Wait, so President Asshole is siding with the moochers?

What a shocker!

Posted by: chemjeff at February 09, 2015 06:25 PM (uOAjL)

70 In the Wests' eyes, who is of more color, and who is furthest from Western values, determines where the Righteous lies.

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 06:26 PM (5+mPY)

71 SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:26 PM (rDqRv)

72 Amazing how most American Greeks are hardworking, industrious, G-d fearing and patriotic Americans. At least all the ones I've ever encountered.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Cultural and Social migration. That's also what happened to Germany in the 19th century. The hardworking and reasonable and tolerant Germans pretty much moved West to America (like my ancestors) for land a better life. The biggest plurality left was more statist, socialist (still hard working) and was generally on board with "blood and iron" uniting the German states into Modern Deutschland.

WWI and WWII followed.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... after 5 pm at February 09, 2015 06:26 PM (RFeQD)

73 Read Samuelson's "The Twisted Priorities of a Greying Nation" in the WaPo and then for real entertainment, read the comments.

Samuelson claims Zero is gutting government.

The commenters blame Bush, Halliburton, the Koch brothers, the 5 percent, the 1 percent, wealthy retirees, and all the other bogeymen.

Teh squirm. Funny.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 09, 2015 06:26 PM (vSxTY)

74 I read the post but I'm still confused.

Posted by: Bruce Jenner at February 09, 2015 06:27 PM (8ZskC)

75 Germans give money to Greece, Greece buys German goods with part of it. Until the debt is called everyone feels richer.

We as 'merica do much the same thing with large portions of the world.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 06:27 PM (WNERA)

76 Amazing how most American Greeks are hardworking, industrious, G-d fearing and patriotic Americans. At least all the ones I've ever encountered.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Yeah, that's the reason they left the old county and why drunk kids can get food at 2 AM in NJ

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:27 PM (rDqRv)

77

Old and Busted - The Guns of Navarrone

New Hotness - Huns Forever Loan

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:27 PM (CMkNk)

78 "How do you say "Free Shit Army" in Greek?"

Elutherou kakou stratos, at a guess.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 09, 2015 06:28 PM (lQHgW)

79 The Greeks keep using the word "borrow'...
I don't think it means what they think it means.

Posted by: wheatie at February 09, 2015 06:28 PM (hX3bN)

80 How about every gay in Germany get their own Greek "companion." Or give each Turk in Germany their own Greek towel boy.

Just spitballing here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:28 PM (u82oZ)

81 Is that hot chick in the red swimsuit in 'Fast Times at Ridgemont High' greek?

asking for a friend

Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 09, 2015 06:28 PM (q+zA9)

82 Does Germany have infinite resources?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 09, 2015 06:28 PM (W5DcG)

83 And very possibly multiple Hot Wars, as countries fight over who pays who.
Posted by: ScoggDog

Get your billions back, Fatherland!

Posted by: Ghost of Heinz Guderian at February 09, 2015 06:28 PM (RFeQD)

84 What's the old saying?
If you owe the bank a thousand dollars and don't have it, you have a problem.

If you owe the bank a hundred million dollars and don't have it, the bank has a problem.

Posted by: navybrat at February 09, 2015 06:28 PM (JgC5a)

85 Germans give money to Greece, Greece buys German goods with part of it. Until the debt is called everyone feels richer.
___
Hey wait a minute, we were promised window breaking!

Posted by: Some Greek leftist at February 09, 2015 06:28 PM (5DM9u)

86 58 I hate the EU, and for all I care they can go fuck themselves, HOWEVER, There is that little problem of the Bear in the East and a weak shit sister in Washington DC.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:24 PM (rDqRv)

That is why we learned how to split the atom. So that we could split it when needed. Just remember, they ALL hate us. That is the central truth in everything that we should be dealing with.

Posted by: goon at February 09, 2015 06:28 PM (gNTQS)

87 Why don't u nazis gimme ur money?
Gimme ur money or I'll call u a nazi. Nazi.

Posted by: Greece Progtards at February 09, 2015 06:29 PM (ZPrif)

88 78 "How do you say "Free Shit Army" in Greek?"

Elutherou kakou stratos, at a guess.
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 09, 2015 06:28 PM (lQHgW)

Wait, that's the Illinois State Motto!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:29 PM (CMkNk)

89 @59 - I believe the west has already given the Greeks enough cheap money from the '40s forward to keep them from going Communist.

If they want to whore themselves out to Putin or the Chinese now, fine. But if they want to be the European Cuba, they'd better work fast, 'cause Obama's only got a couple more years to suck up to tinpot dictators.

If we had a decent Negotiator-in-Chief we'd trade them for some place that's got oil.

Posted by: JEM at February 09, 2015 06:29 PM (o+SC1)

90 Will the Germans let the Greeks pee standing up?

Posted by: wooga at February 09, 2015 06:29 PM (lwpmP)

91 >>> 3) Pay a visit, and by pay a visit I mean annexation.

Hey Germany, aren't you glad you let America defend you for decades? A real army would come in handy about now.

Posted by: fluffy at February 09, 2015 06:29 PM (Ua6T/)

92 It's the old "hookers and blow" scam. With lamb thrown in.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at February 09, 2015 06:29 PM (MVitU)

93 Does Germany have infinite resources?

No, but Russia does.

Posted by: Albert Speer at February 09, 2015 06:29 PM (8ZskC)

94 Ja!

How dare those Greeks demand free stuff from us? It is unethical and completely unsustainable. We had dibs on that free s**t first!!1!

Now, give us all the free government services we want, and don't you dare criticize workers controlling half of each and every medium to large sized company!!1!

At least we can still keep our Scheiße Porn, right?

Posted by: German man currently enjoying a dominatrix doig her business on his chest at February 09, 2015 06:29 PM (0Ew3K)

95 I traded the Greek girl for homemade moussaka upthread.

I think I would have kept the girl, myself.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 09, 2015 06:29 PM (lQHgW)

96 Or give each Turk in Germany their own Greek towel boy.
----
And today my friends, we are all Greeks!

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 09, 2015 06:29 PM (5DM9u)

97 That is why we learned how to split the atom. So that we could split it when needed. Just remember, they ALL hate us. That is the central truth in everything that we should be dealing with.
Posted by: goon at February 09, 2015 06:28 PM (gNTQS)

So your in the "Kill everyone and let G-D sort them out" group? Me to. I like the way you think

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:30 PM (rDqRv)

98 95 I traded the Greek girl for homemade moussaka upthread.

I think I would have kept the girl, myself.
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 09, 2015 06:29 PM (lQHgW)

Syntax, bad. Ouzo better.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:30 PM (CMkNk)

99 @77 - most popular moving in Athens right now.

Posted by: JEM at February 09, 2015 06:30 PM (o+SC1)

100 At this point, demographics being what they are, a fight between Germany and Greece is going to look a lot like grandma and grandpa fighting over the last bottle of Ensure.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 06:30 PM (oFCZn)

101 how do you say 'roofie' in greek

Posted by: Bill Cosby at February 09, 2015 06:31 PM (q+zA9)

102 @24 Didn't the Germans go to Greece in 1941? Why not go back?
----------------

It was the Italians, actually.

Though they had to get German help to do it.

Sounds familiar, now that I think about it...

Posted by: junior at February 09, 2015 06:31 PM (UWFpX)

103 90 Will the Germans let the Greeks pee standing up?
Posted by: wooga at February 09, 2015 06:29 PM (lwpmP)

They sure as f*ck won't be able to sit after the Germans get done with them.

Posted by: Eurozone Thunderdome at February 09, 2015 06:31 PM (d7H2D)

104 how do you say 'roofie' in greek
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Putsome iceonit?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 09, 2015 06:32 PM (5DM9u)

105 Beware of Trojans bearing gifts.

Also, beware of waking up and finding a Trojan hanging from your rear end.

I'm pretty sure it is the second scenario in play for the Eurozone.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 09, 2015 06:32 PM (eWQ1N)

106 100 At this point, demographics being what they are, a fight between Germany and Greece is going to look a lot like grandma and grandpa fighting over the last bottle of Ensure.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 06:30 PM (oFCZn)

Bundeswehr vs Evzones. Pay Per View.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:32 PM (CMkNk)

107 Sure we could nitpick Greece over its monetary policy, but let's not forget Germany was the homeland of Attila the Hun.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 09, 2015 06:32 PM (ufrZ6)

108 A country whose last notable achievement was, ah never mind.

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 06:32 PM (5+mPY)

109 Me and Huma like to try Greek

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 09, 2015 06:33 PM (q+zA9)

110 Didn't the Germans go to Greece in 1941? Why not go back?
***
It wasn't worth it in 1941, it sure as hell wouldn't be worth it now.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2015 06:33 PM (5DM9u)

111 I see many Chinese immigrants in your future, Greek people.

Posted by: Stuff Shih Tzu says at February 09, 2015 06:33 PM (RFeQD)

112 @46 Germany made 2 huge mistakes:

1) The Jewish thing

2) Invading Russia

If not for that the World would be a very different place today.
--------------------------

Well, considering that those were the two biggest goals of Nazi ideology...

Posted by: junior at February 09, 2015 06:34 PM (UWFpX)

113 Also, beware of waking up and finding a Trojan hanging from your rear end.
___
Truer words were never spoken.

At least I got to see Pakistan for free though.

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 09, 2015 06:34 PM (5DM9u)

114 Y u no gimme no money?!!!??!

Posted by: Greece Progtards at February 09, 2015 06:34 PM (ZPrif)

115 Germany should leave the mainland alone, but all that debt should be good enough to buy some of those nice islands.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:34 PM (rDqRv)

116 I would repossess the Parthenon, disassemble it and send it to Berlin.

Posted by: Garrett at February 09, 2015 06:34 PM (X/yoF)

117 Amazing how most American Greeks are hardworking,
industrious, G-d fearing and patriotic Americans. At least all the ones
I've ever encountered.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:16 PM (CMkNk)

Hey, we are working as hard as we can to cure that. Get of our backs.

Posted by: Washington D.C. at February 09, 2015 06:34 PM (wyI5D)

118 Make the Greek men sell their back hair to Locks of Love.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:34 PM (u82oZ)

119 "How do you say "Free Shit Army" in Greek?"

Givmmee, Givmmee, Givmmee!

It is the universal language.

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 06:34 PM (k19Aq)

120 I would repossess the Parthenon, disassemble it and send it to Berlin.
Posted by: Garrett at February 09, 2015 06:34 PM (X/yoF)

I am sure you would. I'd take the nude beaches on Mikinos

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:35 PM (rDqRv)

121 You'll get shit on a shingle.

With an olive.

Posted by: DaveA at February 09, 2015 06:35 PM (DL2i+)

122 Annex a couple of Greek Islands. Clear out the Greeks, and behold: "Sud Deutschland." Now with more nude beaches than Cuxhaven.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:35 PM (u82oZ)

123 Honestly ... I see the US response to DebtNado being a massive seizure of private wealth. Investments, certificates, stocks ... all seized, along with gold, metals, ANYTHING that can be exchanged to cover Federal Debt.

And I don't think the States can stop it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 09, 2015 06:35 PM (9N5vm)

124 118 Make the Greek men sell their back hair to Locks of Love.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:34 PM (u82oZ)

What can the Greek girls contribute to the cause?

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 06:35 PM (5+mPY)

125 youtube.com/watch?v=j-M3-Dab0ls

Seems appropriate. SFW

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 06:35 PM (bAg1C)

126 118 Make the Greek men sell their back hair to Locks of Love.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:34 PM (u82oZ)

Pube wigs for underaged muzzy brides. Problem solved.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:36 PM (CMkNk)

127 NAZIS - Y U NO MONEY?!?!

Posted by: Greece Progtards at February 09, 2015 06:36 PM (ZPrif)

128 Remember that Germany was one of the driving forces behind the EU and pushed for the treaties of Nice and Lisbon. (Nelson Muntz HA ha!)

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 09, 2015 06:37 PM (KH1sk)

129 You forgot the best part - Tsipras is demanding that the Germans pay billions in reparations for the WWII occupation of Greece (despite the fact that reparations for WWII were settled soon after the war).

If I was trying to come up with a position that was guaranteed to infuriate German voters, and make it impossible for the German government to agree to a deal, that would be it.

Posted by: Perpetual Guilt at February 09, 2015 06:37 PM (Mrl1e)

130 127 NAZIS - Y U NO MONEY?!?!
Posted by: Greece Progtards at February 09, 2015 06:36 PM (ZPrif)

Sounds Mexican to me. Then again, Anthony Quinn.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:37 PM (CMkNk)

131 ube wigs for underaged muzzy brides. Problem solved.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:36 PM (CMkNk)

yo, make a deal?

Posted by: pure goat hair merkins for sale at February 09, 2015 06:37 PM (q+zA9)

132 Greece is dead

Posted by: thathalfrican at February 09, 2015 06:37 PM (R5HRU)

133 but let's not forget Germany was the homeland of Attila the Hun.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic

The Huns were north-east asian. Didn't arrive in Europe until like 400AD

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 09, 2015 06:37 PM (DMJw2)

134 seized, along with gold, metals, ANYTHING that can be exchanged to cover Federal Debt.

And I don't think the States can stop it.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 09, 2015 06:35 PM (9N5vm)

The states will be promised a piece of the action.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 09, 2015 06:37 PM (W5DcG)

135 We'd be willing to buy some Greek islands.

Posted by: The Turks at February 09, 2015 06:38 PM (Mrl1e)

136 Di'int we heah'n Greece jus' elec' sum new Hope-n-Changin' type like Obama to get dat money from da' rich fo' de po' so da' bennies keep on flowin' like Uzo? Wassup wid dat'n wuts da problem? Da rich got it, nomean? I di'int get paid to vote for nuttin', noamean? Howzelss I be jammin' to da new Kanye? Hmmm? I gots rights, man, I gots rights, noamean?

Posted by: Hep White Greek LoFo Leech at February 09, 2015 06:38 PM (g1MTt)

137 We blew it all on Banana Hammocks and Anal Eaze.

Posted by: Greece at February 09, 2015 06:38 PM (X/yoF)

138 124 Armpit hair.

Damn. The memories of my deployment to the Aegean Sea and Corfu are coming back!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:38 PM (u82oZ)

139 >>>but let's not forget Germany was the homeland of Attila the Hun.

see, I'm already workin

Posted by: Common Core at February 09, 2015 06:38 PM (q+zA9)

140 "I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It smells like. . . victory.

...

One day, all of this will end. . ."

Posted by: Lt Col Bill Kilgore at February 09, 2015 06:38 PM (Yagd4)

141 So, let's recap. The Chinese will have near-Earth space, the high ground. The Russians will have most of Europe, but who wants that shit anyway. The Muslims will sit on top of all of the oil, and do a couple of gang-rapes and beheading's a day. The South Americans will breed and send the hoards North, because it is only right, and the damn North Americans will finally get their comeuppances.

I don't see anything to worry about, compared to climate change.

Posted by: goon at February 09, 2015 06:38 PM (gNTQS)

142 The Germans should do a GERXIT, German Exit. Leave them holding a bag of shit, seal their borders, and peg the mark at 100 euros or 250 marks/troy ounce of platinum.

Something. Just leave. Cut your losses, don't give into the sunk cost fallacy.

The EU is a massive sunk cost. Walk. Away.

Or march. Doesn't matter. Seal the borders and start acting like the warm, suspicious, meticulously arrogant bastards you Germans really want to be and who everyone is better off for having in their own country back over there.

It's time for an Old Europe filled with meanness, suspicion, and self-interest.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at February 09, 2015 06:38 PM (scgac)

143 It was really stupid to loan the Greeks money in the first place.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 06:39 PM (hlbmD)

144 Honestly ... I see the US response to DebtNado being a massive seizure of private wealth. Investments, certificates, stocks ... all seized, along with gold, metals, ANYTHING that can be exchanged to cover Federal Debt.
***
No that's too simple, the LIVs would notice.

They'll continue to inflate the currency and tell you the reason everything costs so much is because of the Koch brothers.

They'll tax 401ks and force you to convert what's left into Social Security+.

Etc etc etc

Barky and friends are hoping that the average American is too disinterested to notice and that the Republicans will play along.

So far they've been right.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2015 06:39 PM (5DM9u)

145 138 124 Armpit hair.

Damn. The memories of my deployment to the Aegean Sea and Corfu are coming back!
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:38 PM (u82oZ)

SNAFU, FUBAR, TARFU, CORFU?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:39 PM (CMkNk)

146 126
Pube wigs for underaged muzzy brides. Problem solved.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:36 PM (CMkNk)

But that would spoil Achmed's day. Read some thing some nose picking imam pronounced, or maybe it was some muzzie women, saying that 9 years old is a fine time to get all "married up".

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 06:39 PM (5+mPY)

147 And Italy's exit. And, and, and...

"100% Debt-to-GDP List

1. Italy 133%
2. Portugal 129.4%
3. Ireland 116.7%
4. Cyprus 112.2%
5. Belgium 105.1%
6. Greece 174.9%
7. Spain 100.3% (2015 estimate)
8. France 100% (2015 estimate)"

And good ol' USA is????

Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 09, 2015 06:39 PM (/pOl7)

148 143 It was really stupid to loan the Greeks money in the first place.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 06:39 PM (hlbmD)

Fannie Mae/Freddie Macedonia.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:40 PM (CMkNk)

149 Good thing Greece just elected a far-left party to end that nasty austerity. I'm sure they'll get this straightened out.

Posted by: tsj017 at February 09, 2015 06:40 PM (xPS+z)

150 If worst comes to worse Germany could always recoup some of their losses by suing for all intellectual property and equipment needed to produce and sell Grecian Formula.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 09, 2015 06:40 PM (ufrZ6)

151 142

^^^
This!

What could go wrong?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:40 PM (u82oZ)

152 It was really stupid to loan the Greeks money in the first place.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 06:39 PM (hlbmD)

we learned that a long time ago

Posted by: The Italian Mafia at February 09, 2015 06:40 PM (q+zA9)

153 seized, along with gold, metals, ANYTHING that can be exchanged to cover Federal Debt.

And I don't think the States can stop it.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 09, 2015 06:35 PM (9N5vm)

People are investing in lead, brass, and cold iron. The cost to seize it may be rather high.

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 06:40 PM (k19Aq)

154 WWIII is obviously going to start with a Greece fire as the Germans burn down the Parthenon that was built using their money.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 09, 2015 06:41 PM (p6l+P)

155 but let's not forget Germany was the homeland of Attila the Hun.
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I still remember when he ran for president, as a Republican of course. Boy did we dodge a bullet on that one!

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 09, 2015 06:41 PM (5DM9u)

156 I fail to understand what would be so catastrophic if Greece did leave the EU.

Posted by: chemjeff at February 09, 2015 06:41 PM (uOAjL)

157 Germany should sell all of Greece's debt to the IRS. Those fuckers are ruthless. They'll be garnishing Greek GDP by next week

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 06:41 PM (bAg1C)

158 139
>>>but let's not forget Germany was the homeland of Attila the Hun.

see, I'm already workin

Posted by: Common Core at February 09, 2015 06:38 PM (q+zA**rubs hands together gleefully***I love it when a plan comes together.

Posted by: Bill Gates and company at February 09, 2015 06:41 PM (wyI5D)

159 It's way past time to pull the plug on the EU. It is a myth that it has created some homogenized uni-government, it's just made a bunch of bureaucrats in Brussels wealthy.

The smartest two countries in Europe are the UK and Switzerland which kept their own currencies. The rest have some pain coming their way.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 06:41 PM (g1DWB)

160 152 It was really stupid to loan the Greeks money in the first place.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 06:39 PM (hlbmD)

we learned that a long time ago
Posted by: The Italian Mafia at February 09, 2015 06:40 PM (q+zA9)

Break the country's legs.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:41 PM (CMkNk)

161 Germany should just annex debtor nations and open labor camps.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 06:41 PM (hlbmD)

162 In the end Germany will loan as much as needed. Keeps the Greeks indebted.

If they exited the euro they might have to change and be successful and other poor southern euro countries might notice.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 06:41 PM (WNERA)

163 The EU, European and American immigration systems; all things that were designed by the left and somehow ending up transferring wealth from the rich to the poor. Strange how that happened.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at February 09, 2015 06:42 PM (NBhge)

164 Brattleboro is proud to announce that the next Global warming Awareness day will be held on 17 February providing it does not snow. The Honorable Al Gore will be present and will give his evidence that Bush is responsible for the acceleration of Global Warming.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at February 09, 2015 06:42 PM (Sd++4)

165 this would be fucking hilarious if not so tragic. you can't spend more then you earn. period. and yet, here we are again and again.

in the US, they will go after 529s and 401ks - why? because thats where the money is.

Posted by: asswipee at February 09, 2015 06:42 PM (eS0nh)

166 The Huns were north-east asian. Didn't arrive in Europe until like 400AD

So you're saying I'm at least as historically literate as President Obama...

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 09, 2015 06:42 PM (ufrZ6)

167 I'll stand with Greece in 2016

Posted by: Elizabeth, runs with eagles, Warren at February 09, 2015 06:43 PM (q+zA9)

168 Good thing Greece just elected a far-left party to end that nasty austerity. I'm sure they'll get this straightened out.
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Speaking of which, what % of the Greek GDP did the government spend before "austerity" and what percentage after?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2015 06:43 PM (5DM9u)

169 64
BUT BUT BUT climate change and gay rights

Strategic Patience baby!

Posted by: Fredo
+++++++

You're not Fredo. You're Secretariat of State John F. Kerry!!!

Hey ace, you've got celebrity here!

Posted by: John Doe@AnotherQuidam at February 09, 2015 06:43 PM (g1MTt)

170 145. Sniff. It's a beautiful country, except for those Greeks.

At least the British tourist women were nice.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:43 PM (u82oZ)

171 The Germans owe more than just Greece some serious, hard currency. Spain and France and Italy have to put up with Franz and his Speedo at the beach for FAR TOO Long. How much are they supposed to take? I mean without snapping....

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at February 09, 2015 06:44 PM (fLKzW)

172 in the US, they will go after 529s and 401ks - why? because thats where the money is.

Posted by: asswipee at February 09, 2015 06:42 PM (eS0nh)

A lesson learned.

Posted by: Willie Sutton at February 09, 2015 06:44 PM (wyI5D)

173 They could make wigs out of all that armpit hair. Profit.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 06:44 PM (hlbmD)

174 Greece doesn't owe Germany dollars.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2015 06:44 PM (V70Uh)

175 "Sniff. It's a beautiful country, except for those Greeks."

Go to Cyprus - Greek hospitality, and British governing traditions.

Posted by: The Turks at February 09, 2015 06:45 PM (Mrl1e)

176 Promises of unity, massive transfers of wealth from producers to the FSA, mocking of naysayers who were entirely prescient.

In many ways, the Eurozone is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 09, 2015 06:45 PM (d7H2D)

177 Germany should just annex debtor nations and open labor camps.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 06:41 PM (hlbmD)
*********
I seem to recall another time where Germany opened camps in other countries...... I think that was it.....

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at February 09, 2015 06:45 PM (fLKzW)

178 All right... all right... but apart from better
sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and
public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths
and public order... what have the Germans done
for us?

Posted by: People's Front of Athena at February 09, 2015 06:46 PM (ufrZ6)

179 101 how do you say 'roofie' in greek
Posted by: Bill Cosby at February 09, 2015 06:31 PM (q+zA9)

uhhh .... ouzo? That's Greek for Makers Mark.

Posted by: goon at February 09, 2015 06:46 PM (gNTQS)

180 Ahhh, Greek women. Such beautiful curves accented by the bushiest of mustaches.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 09, 2015 06:46 PM (10ydV)

181 OT, but what the heck....Belling now reporting that the Seminole Hard Rock group is willing to donate $220M to build a new Milwaukee Bucks arena if Gov. Walker will change his mind on the Kenosha casino.

Walker now put in an unusual position of turning downor accepting free money, and having indemnity against a lawsuit from the Potowatami.

This is pretty big stuff in WI and may spill over into US Pres race. Iowa conservatives didn't like the casino project.

Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 09, 2015 06:46 PM (/pOl7)

182 Serious, though, gimme your money.

Posted by: Greece Progtards at February 09, 2015 06:46 PM (ZPrif)

183 "F*ck you old man, give me more money to spend on flashy cars and dirty women."

The lifestyle I aspire to.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 09, 2015 06:46 PM (rwI+c)

184 Wankers. All of 'em.

Posted by: UKIP at February 09, 2015 06:46 PM (0Ew3K)

185 >>Go to Cyprus - Greek hospitality, and British governing traditions.

Not counting that messy little incident where the Cypriot government decided it was a great idea to just start taking money out of people's bank accounts.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 06:47 PM (g1DWB)

186 Loaning money to Greece is like loaning money to my crazy Uncle Leon. You ain't never seeing that money again

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:47 PM (rDqRv)

187 Posted by: People's Front of Athena

SPLITTER!

Posted by: Athenian People's Front at February 09, 2015 06:47 PM (GuwT9)

188 183 "F*ck you old man, give me more money to spend on flashy cars and dirty women."

The lifestyle I aspire to.
Posted by: toby928(C) at February 09, 2015 06:46 PM (rwI+c)

If they are doing that, at least they aren't wasting the money.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 06:47 PM (WNERA)

189 Anyone else thinking this looks like the lead up to WWII?
Germany can't pay back it's debt, elects socialist government, out of control inflation.

War is all that's left.

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at February 09, 2015 06:47 PM (QQMmJ)

190 This is like if Aesop had written a parable about welfare, but with whole nations playing the human characters, instead of scaling the fables down to the level of little animals.

Posted by: lauraw at February 09, 2015 06:47 PM (2JSDI)

191 Interesting if Germany could demand some small Greek Islands 'in lieu of payment'. Hmm I wonder how much the Chicons would give us for American Samoa?

Posted by: PaleRider at February 09, 2015 06:48 PM (dkExz)

192 Actually we could learn from the Greeks. Personal tax evasion is the national sport.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:48 PM (u82oZ)

193 Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 09, 2015 06:46 PM (/pOl7)

So Walker stopped the casino?

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 06:48 PM (bAg1C)

194 >>Anyone else thinking this looks like the lead up to WWII?
Germany can't pay back it's debt, elects socialist government, out of control inflation.

And we have our very own Neville Chamberlain ready to appease any and all. Cause that always works out great.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 06:49 PM (g1DWB)

195 Go to Cyprus - Greek hospitality, and British governing traditions.

Not counting that messy little incident where the Cypriot government decided it was a great idea to just start taking money out of people's bank accounts.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 06:47 PM (g1DWB)

You mean the same Cyprus that is welcoming Russian warships?

http://tinyurl.com/qzfgydt

Posted by: The Naval Hat at February 09, 2015 06:49 PM (0Ew3K)

196 >>Anyone else thinking this looks like the lead up to WWII?
Germany can't pay back it's debt, elects socialist government, out of control inflation.

And we have our very own Neville Chamberlain ready to appease any and all. Cause that always works out great.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 06:49 PM (g1DWB)

197 Posted by: People's Front of Athena at February 09, 2015 06:46 PM (ufrZ6)
**********
SPLITTER!!!

Posted by: Athena Peoples Front at February 09, 2015 06:49 PM (fLKzW)

198 Do the greeks have any goats?

Posted by: Abdi Husain Mohamad at February 09, 2015 06:49 PM (q+zA9)

199 180 Ahhh, Greek women. Such beautiful curves accented by the bushiest of mustaches.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 09, 2015 06:46 PM (10ydV)

And at the end of it all, you have to fight your way through dense underbush.

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 06:49 PM (5+mPY)

200 whoaaa, double rainbow post

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 06:49 PM (g1DWB)

201 Posted by: Abdi Husain Mohamad at February 09, 2015 06:49 PM (q+zA9)

Lamb. Even better.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 06:50 PM (bAg1C)

202 All Womens College Changes Guidelines To Accept Transwomen And People Who Identify As Women

Weasel Zippers

Bryn Mawr College

I saw this movie. Tom Hanks was in it right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:50 PM (rDqRv)

203 Yup! Said the risk to the taxpayers was too great.

Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 09, 2015 06:50 PM (/pOl7)

204 199. I say Faversham, hand me my machete.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:50 PM (u82oZ)

205 Anyone else thinking this looks like the lead up to WWII?
Germany can't pay back it's debt, elects socialist government, out of control inflation.

War is all that's left.

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at February 09, 2015 06:47 PM (QQMmJ)

You forgot the cannibalism, rape, pederasty, and rape...

Posted by: Greek man in assless chaps at February 09, 2015 06:51 PM (0Ew3K)

206 I saw this movie. Tom Hanks was in it right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Dustin Hoffman, I think.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at February 09, 2015 06:51 PM (GuwT9)

207 You said rape twice.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 09, 2015 06:51 PM (rwI+c)

208 205 You said rape twice.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:51 PM (u82oZ)

209 207 You said rape twice.
Posted by: toby928(C) at February 09, 2015 06:51 PM (rwI+c)

Rape rape?

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 06:52 PM (WNERA)

210 I thought Germany was doing this to dominate Europe? I don't think that word means what they think it means.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 09, 2015 06:52 PM (XO6WW)

211 So Walker stopped the casino?

203
Yup! Said the risk to the taxpayers was too great.

Sorry, double post

Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 09, 2015 06:52 PM (/pOl7)

212 You forgot the cannibalism, rape, pederasty, and rape...
Posted by: Greek man in assless chaps at February 09, 2015 06:51 PM (0Ew3K)

You only said pederasty once.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 06:52 PM (mx5oN)

213 by "ridiculous" do you mean "sadly predictable and expected?"

Posted by: Dr. McCoy at February 09, 2015 06:52 PM (F192H)

214 Bryn Mawr College

I saw this movie. Tom Hanks was in it right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:50 PM (rDqRv)

I keep thinking that one of these years they're going to uncover a massive conspiracy that's been pumping carbon monoxide into every college dorm room and classroom in the country. Because I have no other explanation...

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 06:52 PM (bAg1C)

215 Anyone else thinking this looks like the lead up to WWII?

I am not sure if it is like 1928 or 1938?

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 06:52 PM (k19Aq)

216 Too slow salty dog. Gots to be fast here for the lowhanging fruit.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 09, 2015 06:52 PM (rwI+c)

217 Tom Hanks was in Bosom Buddies..... The best television comedy of all time..... right after ALF.

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at February 09, 2015 06:53 PM (fLKzW)

218 207 Darn those blazing fast typing fingers toby928©.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:53 PM (u82oZ)

219 Didn't the Germans go to Greece in 1941? Why not go back?
***
It wasn't worth it in 1941, it sure as hell wouldn't be worth it now.

- - - - - -
Well, on the upside, the Germans know how to put large groups of people to work.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2015 06:53 PM (08Znv)

220 Well, on the upside, the Germans know how to put large groups of people to work.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2015 06:53 PM (08Znv)

It makes you free, so I've heard.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 06:53 PM (mx5oN)

221 The Government of Greece was doing well until that IDIOT BUSH SCREWED IT UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at February 09, 2015 06:53 PM (Sd++4)

222 #199 #180 Doctor Linvingston, I presume?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 09, 2015 06:53 PM (XO6WW)

223 Rape rape. It's an emphasis thing like in the Bible, verily, verily, spoken for the very dense.

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 06:53 PM (5+mPY)

224 Did someone say "Greek exit"?

Posted by: Ana Marie Cox at February 09, 2015 06:54 PM (voZKo)

225 I keep thinking that one of these years they're going to uncover a massive conspiracy that's been pumping carbon monoxide into every college dorm room and classroom in the country. Because I have no other explanation...
Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 06:52 PM (bAg1C)

it's called mary jane, grass, weed, good stuff and assorted other names.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:54 PM (rDqRv)

226 And at the end of it all, you have to fight your way through dense underbush.
Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 06:49 PM (5+mPY)

Her clitoris was not, in fact, Dr. Livingston.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 09, 2015 06:54 PM (10ydV)

227 Yup! Said the risk to the taxpayers was too great.
Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 09, 2015 06:50 PM (/pOl7)

...And so, if I read your post right, the Seminoles are basically offering a payoff in the form of a new stadium, if he backs off of their buddies?

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 06:54 PM (bAg1C)

228 DO you know how they separate the men from the boys in Greece? WIth a crowbar!!!

Posted by: Harry¨No Crowbar Reid at February 09, 2015 06:54 PM (7ClUK)

229 Sadly it is a toxic mixture of late '28 and late '38. Depression and world conflagration at the same time. Two... two.... TWO TREATS IN ONE!

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at February 09, 2015 06:54 PM (fLKzW)

230 All Womens College Changes Guidelines To Accept Transwomen And People Who Identify As Women
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I'm not sure that I want to know, but..., exactly which direction is a 'transwoman' taking? Is a 'transman' a different animal? I would like to know if they accept 'transmen' also, because otherwise, it just doesn't seem fair. And that is what it is all about, no?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2015 06:54 PM (/GgDU)

231 Did someone say "Greek exit"?
Posted by: Ana Marie Cox at February 09, 2015 06:54 PM (voZKo)

Despite the name it is not, in fact, a euphemism.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 09, 2015 06:54 PM (10ydV)

232 You said rape twice.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:51 PM (u82oZ)

He likes rape.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 06:55 PM (bAg1C)

233 My Grandfather used to have a tumbler that had a logo which said something to the effect. "Fly Olympiad Airlines to Greece - Through the Back Door". I never quite understood what that meant. (Half the family is Greek) Then one day he told me it was about the "Greek Asshole Bandits". I still didn't understand. I was 9.

I still have that glass somewhere.

Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 09, 2015 06:55 PM (/pOl7)

234 You only said pederasty once.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 06:52 PM (mx5oN)

Gotta make time for the goats and sheep...

Posted by: Greek man in assless chaps at February 09, 2015 06:55 PM (0Ew3K)

235 Europe is in the middle of playing out the "white privilege" and "reparations" game that's happening here, but with slightly different skin tones and dog whistles.

Germany, in this parallel scenario, is the "white people" and a history of Naziism is the "slavery guilt" cited over here, and southern Europeans are the "minorities" and the bailouts are the "welfare" and the non-repayment of the billions are the "reparations."

It's just the same ol' "politics of envy" cycling over and over again: whoever succeeds is bled dry and parasitized by all surrounding cultures. Failure to subsidize layabout-ism is deemed by the layabouts as "racism" and "nationalistic bigotry."

The entire purpose of the EU is a sort modern version of The League of Nations, to prevent another nationalistic war breaking out in Europe, by unifying the entire continent into essentially one nation. The psychic scars from 1812, 1870, 1914 and 1939 still loom large. And in the last three instances, Germany was the aggressor. So they must now be tamed with a hundred parasitical cultures draining the workaholic Germans dry.

But how likely is Germany to now return to its aggressive past? Almost nil. About as likely as France will generate another Napoleon.

Germany should say "fuck you" to every other European economy and stop all bailouts. Let 'em collapse. They deserve it.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 06:55 PM (K4YiS)

236 Europe is going to end with a whimper, and an equally bankrupt, but willful, Russia will profit.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 09, 2015 06:55 PM (rwI+c)

237 Give us our free shit, you Nazis or we will continue to call you "Nazis."

Posted by: Greece at February 09, 2015 06:55 PM (5UYtO)

238 I'm not sure that I want to know, but..., exactly which direction is a 'transwoman' taking? Is a 'transman' a different animal? I would like to know if they accept 'transmen' also, because otherwise, it just doesn't seem fair. And that is what it is all about, no?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2015 06:54 PM (/GgDU)

I'm guessing it means men who "identify" as women.

Women who "identify" as men aren't allowed.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 09, 2015 06:56 PM (10ydV)

239 226 And at the end of it all, you have to fight your way through dense underbush.
Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 06:49 PM (5+mPY)

Her clitoris was not, in fact, Dr. Livingston.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 09, 2015 06:54 PM (10ydV)

Oh, a little man in a boat, in a mangrove swamp. Got it.

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 06:56 PM (5+mPY)

240 Well, on the upside, the Germans know how to put large groups of people to work.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2015 06:53 PM (08Znv)

It makes you free, so I've heard.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 06:53 PM (mx5oN)

Walmart has put a lot more people to work.

Most of them are Chinese workers, but they are working.

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 06:56 PM (k19Aq)

241 Russia's end will be in fire and pain however when the Chinese make their move.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 09, 2015 06:56 PM (rwI+c)

242 I keep thinking that one of these years they're going to uncover a massive conspiracy that's been pumping carbon monoxide into every college dorm room and classroom in the country. Because I have no other explanation...
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The faculty lounges.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2015 06:56 PM (/GgDU)

243 215 Anyone else thinking this looks like the lead up to WWII?

I am not sure if it is like 1928 or 1938?

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 06:52 PM (k19Aq)

Once you get the former, stick around . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:56 PM (CMkNk)

244 I have a Greek friend who explains it thusly:

Look, we are so far in debt because austerity didn't work. And Germans are yucky.

Or something like that.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 06:57 PM (NeFrd)

245 Russia's end will be in fire and pain however when the Chinese make their move.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 09, 2015 06:56 PM (rwI+c)

Aren't they...you know...tight?

Posted by: EC at February 09, 2015 06:57 PM (doBIb)

246 We've had centuries of experience running Greece.

We're tanned, rested, and available.

Posted by: The Turks at February 09, 2015 06:57 PM (Mrl1e)

247 Very astutely put Zombie..... You should start a blog!

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at February 09, 2015 06:57 PM (fLKzW)

248 Well as the EU falls apart I can guarantee you one thing, The big losers in all of this is gong to be the Joooos!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:57 PM (rDqRv)

249 235 Woo there zombie.

That is a serious and thought-provoking comment in the middle of an AoSHQ pie fight.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:57 PM (u82oZ)

250 Give us our free shit, you Nazis or we will continue to call you "Nazis."
Posted by: Greece at February 09, 2015 06:55 PM (5UYtO)

It's like a stickup man, except he threatens to call you a Nazi on Twitter unless you hand over your wallet.

Say, that gives me an idea....

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 06:57 PM (bAg1C)

251 Bring on the Burning Time,.

Posted by: toby928(C) has drink taken at February 09, 2015 06:58 PM (rwI+c)

252 Hodor.

Posted by: NBC Nightly News with Hodor at February 09, 2015 06:58 PM (VQjvV)

253 It's like a stickup man, except he threatens to call you a Nazi on Twitter unless you hand over your wallet.

Say, that gives me an idea....
Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 06:57 PM (bAg1C)

I get called a Nazi at least 2-3 times a week here by Hector the troll

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 06:58 PM (rDqRv)

254 249 235 Woo there zombie.

That is a serious and thought-provoking comment in the middle of an AoSHQ pie fight.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:57 PM (u82oZ)

Yeah. And all I got is pubic hair riffs...

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 06:58 PM (5+mPY)

255 All of Europe wanted to jack into Germany's super-stable currency and
generally positive economic profile. But this was all Cargo Cult. They
just wanted the benefits of German fiscal and economic policy.
They didn't want to actually pursue the thrifty and responsible habits
of the Germans that produces these economic benefits.

Exactly what we did here in the subprime mortgage fiasco. How to make ghetto denizens the values of the middle class? Give them the accoutrements of the middle class, of course.

The liberals failed to grasp that the accoutrements of the middle class are the result of middle class values, not the cause of them.

Cargo cult sociology in action.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 06:59 PM (oKE6c)

256 I'm guessing it means men who "identify" as women.

Women who "identify" as men aren't allowed.
Posted by: Colorado Alex
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That is insane. But then I'm stating the obvious.

"It is the century of constant sacrifice by the normal to the abnormal." - G.K. Chesterton

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2015 06:59 PM (/GgDU)

257 254 The new dental floss?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:59 PM (u82oZ)

258 I like the Greeks and especially the way they treat women who are gravitationally challenged ...

Posted by: Mary Dipshit from Idiotsboro, Vermit at February 09, 2015 07:00 PM (Xgc4p)

259 France, a country with northern-european charm and southern-european financial discipline,
I'm sorry, old chap, but is that a humorous reference?

Posted by: the english chef in hell at February 09, 2015 07:00 PM (2KB+E)

260 257 254 The new dental floss?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 06:59 PM (u82oZ)

I thought dental floss came from Montana.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:00 PM (mx5oN)

261 >>Germany should say "fuck you" to every other European economy and stop all bailouts. Let 'em collapse. They deserve it.

They should but they don't. Why? About 60% of all German trade is with other EU countries.

The EU is a ponzi scheme that will collapse once the music stops and nobody will be hit harder than Germany.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 07:00 PM (g1DWB)

262 244 I have a Greek friend who explains it thusly:

Look, we are so far in debt because austerity didn't work. And Germans are yucky.

Or something like that.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man

A nearby neighbor of mine is a family of expatriate Greeks who came to America in the '90s to pursue success. They succeeded. They still identify as "Greek," but they are in love with the American system of freedom and entreprenuerialism.

As Greeks, do you know hom they blame for this crisis?

Their fellow Greeks.

You should hear them rant. They say all their countrymen are tax cheats and lazy goof-offs.

They don't like the idea of their country going bankrupt, but they side with Germany in the conflict nonetheless.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 07:01 PM (K4YiS)

263 " there's nothing you can do but continue to subsidize us like rotten, hooligan teenagers."

Done there, been that.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 07:01 PM (2o6Wj)

264 260 Well Montana is the Treasure State.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 07:01 PM (u82oZ)

265 The EU is a ponzi scheme that will collapse once the music stops and nobody will be hit harder than Germany.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 07:00 PM (g1DWB)
**********
^^THIS^^
For emphasis

Posted by: Trunk Monkey at February 09, 2015 07:01 PM (fLKzW)

266
The best feature of the Greek candidate for Miss Universe was her mustache.

Posted by: Donnie Trump at February 09, 2015 07:02 PM (P330y)

267 245
Russia's end will be in fire and pain however when the Chinese make their move.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 09, 2015 06:56 PM (rwI+c)

Aren't they...you know...tight?

Posted by: EC

Each one thinks they're playing the other. My money is on China.

Posted by: pep at February 09, 2015 07:02 PM (4nR9/)

268 247 Very astutely put Zombie..... You should start a blog!
Posted by: Trunk Monkey

Hey, that's a good idea! I'll look into that.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 07:02 PM (K4YiS)

269 Germany should say "fuck you" to every other European economy and stop all bailouts. Let 'em collapse.
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Easy to say...., not so easy to do when the PIGS are 40% of your market.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2015 07:02 PM (/GgDU)

270 [249 235 Woo there zombie.

That is a serious and thought-provoking comment in the middle of an AoSHQ pie fight.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Typical of me -- I zig when everyone else is zagging.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 07:03 PM (K4YiS)

271 Spray some of this on it..... it will solve everything

Posted by: Old Greek Guy with a Windex Bottle at February 09, 2015 07:03 PM (fLKzW)

272 I saw Bushiest of Mustaches open for ZZ Top in '95 at Busch Beer Garden.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 07:03 PM (NeFrd)

273 I'm guessing it means men who "identify" as women.

Women who "identify" as men aren't allowed.
Posted by: Colorado Alex
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I wonder how Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT identifies?
I gotta tell ya, I just love the name Mary Clogginstien.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2015 07:03 PM (08Znv)

274 Strategic Patience

Oh my G-D, we're all gonna die

But at least I might have a front row seat

Oh SMOD bring it on

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 07:04 PM (rDqRv)

275 I'm not so sure that Germany is going to cave on this. They have their own economic problems, and I gather that the German electorate is getting pretty pissed about working to 65 to support Greeks retiring at 50 or so.

What exactly does Germany get from the EU? OK, trading partners, but if they're giving those partners the cash to buy German goods, then aren't the Germans in effect just giving them the goods? I know it doesn't look that way on paper, owing to the magic of accounting, but if you start writing off debts incurred by your trading partners, that's what it boils down to.

It seems to me that most of what Germany is getting is absolution for its WWII sins, but as memories of WWII fade, and that generation dies off, absolution might be pretty weak tea.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:04 PM (oKE6c)

276 Bruce Jenner identifies as a woman ans he can't drive.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 07:05 PM (hlbmD)

277 The Greeks are in arrears.
Thread winner, Aviator.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 09, 2015 07:05 PM (2KB+E)

278 Andrea Tantaros, make me somepastichio

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 09, 2015 07:05 PM (6/J77)

279 I wonder how Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT identifies?
Posted by: Diogenes

My guess: it was born "Larry Cloggenstien."

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at February 09, 2015 07:05 PM (GuwT9)

280 Wow. The new Republican governor of Illinois just signed and executive order, fuck you Obama, that ends the mandate of union dues for state workers.

Illinois.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 07:06 PM (g1DWB)

281 What exactly does Germany get from the EU? OK, trading partners, but if they're giving those partners the cash to buy German goods, then aren't the Germans in effect just giving them the goods? I know it doesn't look that way on paper, owing to the magic of accounting, but if you start writing off debts incurred by your trading partners, that's what it boils down to.

Posted by: Jay Guevara

I award you Krugman's Nobel Prize in Economics.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 07:06 PM (K4YiS)

282 Which way to jump on Ouzo futures?
Either the stuff is going to become dirt cheap..., or become unavailable.

* flips valueless Greek denominated Euro coin *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2015 07:06 PM (/GgDU)

283 Hhmmm....Clogginstien...isn't that the Germanic spelling?
Verrrryyyy Iiinnnnttteeerrreeesssting!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2015 07:06 PM (08Znv)

284 Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 06:55 PM (K4YiS)

Sorry, just saw this (prairie dogging again), but I agree completely. We're getting tired of those playing the race card here, and I bet the Germans are getting tired of those playing the Nazi card there.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:07 PM (oKE6c)

285 274 We have a front seat to epic silliness. Would not miss it, even for SMOD.

Is it current events or a white-knuckled roller coaster ride with an awkward dismount into lava?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 07:07 PM (u82oZ)

286 Transmen Transwymen. When they are done do they become trans-formers?

Posted by: freaked at February 09, 2015 07:07 PM (JdEZJ)

287 And you people are worried about Greek Debts?

Fredo is about to give Iran the thumbs up to get the Bomb.

Suck on that for a while

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 07:07 PM (rDqRv)

288 if they're giving those partners the cash to buy German goods, then aren't the Germans in effect just giving them the goods?
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ssssh.

Posted by: The Fed, pumping $85 BILLION/month at February 09, 2015 07:07 PM (/GgDU)

289 It seems to me that most of what Germany is getting is absolution for
its WWII sins, but as memories of WWII fade, and that generation dies
off, absolution might be pretty weak tea.

This is it exactly. And yes, they're getting very tired of it. Frankly, I'm surprised their war guilt has lasted this long (70 years). It would be like a Southerner feeling guilty about slavery in 1935.

Posted by: pep at February 09, 2015 07:07 PM (4nR9/)

290 I award you Krugman's Nobel Prize in Economics.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 07:06 PM (K4YiS)

Is that a compliment or an insult? Can I get a fatwa here?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:07 PM (oKE6c)

291 280 Wow. The new Republican governor of Illinois just signed and executive order, fuck you Obama, that ends the mandate of union dues for state workers.

Illinois.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 07:06 PM (g1DWB)

WOW indeed!!! Links?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:08 PM (CMkNk)

292 I zig when everyone else is zagging.
Serpentine! Serpentine!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 09, 2015 07:08 PM (2KB+E)

293 wrap that sausage in a pita

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 09, 2015 07:08 PM (6/J77)

294 We're talking about the Germans, but the first shit to get real is that the UK is going to back away slowly from the EU. Or maybe quickly. UKIP is getting to a rocky start, but the Tories sentimentalism can't trump the cold, hard reality of EU failure.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 09, 2015 07:08 PM (L2xDv)

295 Which way to jump on Ouzo futures?
Either the stuff is going to become dirt cheap..., or become unavailable.

Let it go...you can always buy raki.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2015 07:08 PM (08Znv)

296 I'm starting to think there's two types of people in the modern West. Germans and Greeks. It's going to suck for the Germans, because the Greeks are just going to loot and burn when the supply of free shit inevitably dries up.

Posted by: Cato at February 09, 2015 07:09 PM (3HxZe)

297 Daily Mail is reporting that scientists have discovered the secret to Ace's time machine (that he totally doesn't have):

http://tinyurl.com/o3nkzm8

In the debate of free will/determinism, I favor the view of free will; stuff like this does make you wonder though.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 09, 2015 07:09 PM (eWQ1N)

298 If I understand this, Greece is demanding Germany give them a bunch of money to pay off loans they took out previously. If Germany doesn't Greece defaults and German banks are in trouble.

So, Germany can give money to Greece who will give it to German banks. Then repeat the whole process in 3 - 4 Years.
Or, Germany can tell Greece to pound sand then give money to German banks to make up for the bad Greece loans.
I think in Merkel's shoes, I would go with the second option.

Posted by: JB1000 at February 09, 2015 07:09 PM (I398l)

299 If anyone's going to pay that much for Greek, it'd be a German.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 09, 2015 07:09 PM (MMC8r)

300 the Tories sentimentalism can't trump the cold, hard reality of EU failure.

But they'll give it the old college try.

Posted by: pep at February 09, 2015 07:09 PM (4nR9/)

301 Note that this latest intra-EU financial kerfuffle is happening at the same time that a metric shit-ton of loans by European banks to Russian companies have become unserviceable. They're all going into default.

And where the Russians suddenly can no longer afford to import a lot of expensive equipment that they had previously been buying abroad, from Lexuses to lasers.

There will be ripple effects all through the global economy.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 09, 2015 07:09 PM (noWW6)

302 I think her real identiy might be The Mooch.

Posted by: Mary Dipshit from Idiotsboro, Vermit at February 09, 2015 07:10 PM (Xgc4p)

303 252 Hodor.
Posted by: NBC Nightly News with Hodor at February 09, 2015 06:58 PM (VQjvV)

Hodor Qotb?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:10 PM (CMkNk)

304 >>WOW indeed!!! Links?

http://tinyurl.com/n9ggrk7

Just a reminder to all you illegal immigrants, that which is given by executive order can be taken away with one. So please register and come out of the shadows so we know where to find you.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 07:10 PM (g1DWB)

305 That guy who hasn't paid rent in 3 months?

He's not paying next month either.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2015 07:10 PM (1Y+hH)

306 And I thick she loves Bush that is any color!?

Posted by: Mary Dipshit from Idiotsboro, Vermit at February 09, 2015 07:10 PM (Xgc4p)

307 I keep wondering if I should just pull 90% of my cash out of the bank and build all the house and property improvements I want *right now*. You know, while the dollars still buy stuff.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:11 PM (bAg1C)

308 It makes no sense for the Greeks, whose economy is based on tourism and government spending, to share a common currency with Germany, whose economy is high productivity and high technology based.

Low trade barriers and ease of travel, yes, but the common currency is a horrible idea, in Greece, in Spain, in Portugal, and maybe everywhere in the EU.

Posted by: MTF at February 09, 2015 07:11 PM (FCsIb)

309 Seriously, I think a lot of this is resentment over all the ancient artifacts Heinrich Schliemann took out of Greece back in the day.

It is rarely mentioned in public now, but the German archaeologists on the 19th century took ALL of the best stuff in Greece back to Germany -- during an era when Greece was discombobulated and didn't give a shit about their own ruins.

Fast forward to the present and the anger and resentment many greeks feel about the theft of their national heritage is off the charts.

I actually think Schliemann and his ilk are part of the root cause of this.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 07:11 PM (K4YiS)

310 Gimme a couple birds, one squad , about 50 hellfire missiles, and 15 peperoni pizzas and Ill get the Krauts money back!

Posted by: Brian 'dog face' Williams at February 09, 2015 07:11 PM (Msg5U)

311

In the debate of free will/determinism, I favor the view of free will;

Like you had a choice.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 09, 2015 07:12 PM (MMC8r)

312 Bonnie Tyler summed up Greek fiscal policy succinctly in song:

I need a gyro
I'm holding of for a gyro 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong
And he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight

I need a gyro
I'm holding for a gyro 'til the morning light
He's gotta be sure
And it's gotta be soon
And he's gotta be larger than life!

I need a gyro!

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 07:12 PM (NeFrd)

313 296 I'm starting to think there's two types of people in the modern West. Germans and Greeks. It's going to suck for the Germans, because the Greeks are just going to loot and burn when the supply of free shit inevitably dries up.

Posted by: Cato at February 09, 2015 07:09 PM (3HxZe)

Except where are the Greeks going to be looting and burning?

Greece.

The Germans will watch on TV.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:12 PM (oKE6c)

314 Andrea Tantaros.

*drops mic*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 07:12 PM (oFCZn)

315 There will be ripple effects all through the global economy.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 09, 2015 07:09 PM (noWW6)

They'll reverse-engineer or steal anything they can't afford. Natural resources is one thing they've got shitloads of. As proof of my assertion, I point to the last century of their history.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:13 PM (bAg1C)

316 It's all becoming clear now.

Greece wants to be Germany's Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2015 07:13 PM (1Y+hH)

317 "Frankly, I'm surprised their war guilt has lasted this long (70 years). It would be like a Southerner feeling guilty about slavery in 1935."

1935? There's a large bloc of people in the USA who think every white person in the country should feel guilty about slavery today in 2015. And continue to thus feel guilty forever. To infinity and beyond!

Whether or not said white people had any familial connection at all to the actual practice of slavery does not matter.

Whether or not said white people even had ancestors _in_ the USA during the era of slavery (some modern white Americans did not) also does not matter.

It's considered an ineradicable mark of Cain.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 09, 2015 07:13 PM (noWW6)

318 German gonna go all Otto Skorzeny on dey greek ass, dey don't pays up. Ima sayin'.

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (go5uR)

319 309
Seriously, I think a lot of this is resentment over all the ancient
artifacts Heinrich Schliemann took out of Greece back in the day.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 07:11 PM (K4YiS)

We ate your felafel!!!

Posted by: Germany at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (Msg5U)

320 Bret Baier's panel called Obama "delusional" and "a danger to world peace" tonight. Mara Liasson agreed, because she has a brain, and Juan Williams wasn't on, so unanimous.

Obama compared ISIS to the criminal element in big cities tonight. He is the single dumbest man I've ever seen in national office. Somebody should ask him if he loses sleep worrying about the Naval presence on Guam.

Posted by: MTF at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (FCsIb)

321 Interesting Greeks are even better than interesting Italians. They play Spades better than anyone.

Posted by: Barry O'Fuckstick at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (L+9ot)

322 309 If the Germans and the Brits had not taken it, the artifacts would be flowing sand by now.

Maintenance is not a Greek value. Just look at the 2004 Olympic sites. A lot of money wasted there.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (u82oZ)

323
Meine grosse fette griechische arscheficke!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (CMkNk)

324 IL right-to-work union fight linked in my sock.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (2KB+E)

325 In the debate of free will/determinism, I favor the view of free will; stuff like this does make you wonder though.
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Heh. I saw an interview with Murray Gell-Mann, conducted a chin-stroking PBS guy. The PBS guy did his level best to get Gell-Mann to say that quantum mechanics were related to free will. Gell-man very nearly laughed out loud.

Posted by: The Fed, pumping $85 BILLION/month at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (/GgDU)

326 "I actually think Schliemann and his ilk are part of the root cause of this."

yeah, because the Greeks being responsible for their own actions is a ridiculous concept.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (pZtrP)

327 When the Germans said "euro" the Greeks thought "gyro" and said, "give me a dozen to go, Nazi!"

Posted by: Fritz at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (dVmLD)

328 Did somebody say Greek Exit?

Posted by: Brian Williams Daughters Chocolate Starfish at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (7ClUK)

329 It makes no sense for the Greeks, whose economy is based on tourism and government spending, to share a common currency with Germany, whose economy is high productivity and high technology based.

I'm sure that sentence works just as well if you interchange various parts of the US for Greece and Germany.

Remember, when you hear someone pitch "economic interdependence", it's because they figured out how to live off someone else's dime.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, by the Pale Moon light at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (m9V0o)

330 Seriously, I think a lot of this is resentment over all the ancient
artifacts Heinrich Schliemann took out of Greece back in the day.

You're trying to hard. If that were the case, the Brits would be a bunch of cringing, self-abasing apologists because of the Elgin Marbles.

Oh, wait......

Posted by: pep at February 09, 2015 07:15 PM (4nR9/)

331 If I were Germany, I'd foreclose on Greece.

Then I'd fix it up some and flip it.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at February 09, 2015 07:15 PM (iIzG7)

332 Greek Exit. All routes are open.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 07:15 PM (hlbmD)

333 Except where are the Greeks going to be looting and burning?

Greece.

Example 1: Los Angelos.
Example 2: Detroit.
Example 3: Ferguson

etc etc etc

Posted by: Dandolo at February 09, 2015 07:15 PM (wyI5D)

334 He is the single dumbest man I've ever seen in national office.
-----------------

Also, bereft of any real-world experience. Zero.

Posted by: The Fed, pumping $85 BILLION/month at February 09, 2015 07:16 PM (/GgDU)

335 Andrea Tantaros.

*drops mic*
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 07:12 PM (oFCZn)

You can already see the 'stache forming. Give her ten years and a couple of kids, and she'll look like Tom Sellack met a pastry truck.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 09, 2015 07:16 PM (10ydV)

336 Germany needs a collector, like all good loan sharks. Send the Turks to collect.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 07:16 PM (2o6Wj)

337 Can we combine this with a travel thread. I've always wanted to the Greek isles, should I be in before Europe gets itself into another war because they really can't all just get along? It really seems like someone should have seen this coming when they combined currency. Britain was at least smart enough to stay out of it.

As much as this is important it's been building for a while.

Ot/ I have a steak resting in the kitchen. Yum!

Posted by: Lea - Sorry make that Miss Leaette at February 09, 2015 07:17 PM (vmMMi)

338 309 Seriously, I think a lot of this is resentment over all the ancient artifacts Heinrich Schliemann took out of Greece back in the day.

It is rarely mentioned in public now, but the German archaeologists on the 19th century took ALL of the best stuff in Greece back to Germany -- during an era when Greece was discombobulated and didn't give a shit about their own ruins.

Fast forward to the present and the anger and resentment many greeks feel about the theft of their national heritage is off the charts.

I actually think Schliemann and his ilk are part of the root cause of this.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 07:11 PM (K4YiS)

The Brits did the same thing, most notably with the Elgin Marbles. Hell, for that matter, how much of the stuff in the Louvre is French, as opposed to Italian, Flemish, etc.?

The Germans should say, "OK, here's your dosh," and send them back the artifacts. Then cut the Greeks loose.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:17 PM (oKE6c)

339 Brian Williams Daughters Chocolate Starfish

I just snorted beer out my nose.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2015 07:18 PM (08Znv)

340 324 IL right-to-work union fight linked in my sock.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (2KB+E)

Good for Rauner. Cut the blood supply to the tumor and you go a long way to curing the cancer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:18 PM (CMkNk)

341 Posted by: Lea - Sorry make that Miss Leaette at February 09, 2015 07:17 PM (vmMMi)

Well, if Greece melts down try Prague. Beautiful city, good food and drink.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:18 PM (bAg1C)

342 It is rarely mentioned in public now, but the German archaeologists on the 19th century took ALL of the best stuff in Greece back to Germany -- during an era when Greece was discombobulated and didn't give a shit about their own ruins.

Fast forward to the present and the anger and resentment many greeks feel about the theft of their national heritage is off the charts.

And Moslem anger is all about losing Andalusia, and the Crusades. Like teenagers caught, the Greeks are going to trumpet anything to try to excuse their own theft, and few can rage and trumpet like the Greeks.

Posted by: toby928(C) has drink taken at February 09, 2015 07:18 PM (rwI+c)

343 Example 1: Los Angelos.
Example 2: Detroit.
Example 3: Ferguson

etc etc etc

Posted by: Dandolo at February 09, 2015 07:15 PM (wyI5D)
And the Germans care about that because ...?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:18 PM (oKE6c)

344 The Italians used to call their kings doggies.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 07:18 PM (hlbmD)

345 323 J.J., that's what the Windex is for.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 07:18 PM (u82oZ)

346 So, Greece won't sign a piece of paper called a "program" that it would not be following anyway, and as a result Germany may not keep Greece and the Euro-dinghy afloat?

Germany should just annex the place and get it over with. They absorbed East Germany for crying out loud, Greece at least has nice ruins.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2015 07:18 PM (1Y+hH)

347 Obama is simultaneously working to bring back the Russian empire it seems, since he refuses to arm Estonia, Lithuania, Poland, Finland and (of course) Ukraine. Every single time in these crises leftists like to say "what do you expect the President to do!!", as if no one could have foreseen these crises and no one could have planned ahead.

More examples of the Single Dumbest Man Ever effect, aided and abetted by his political supporters. This goes beyond Democrat or Republican. It's getting close to "do you want world war 3 or not?".

Posted by: MTF at February 09, 2015 07:18 PM (FCsIb)

348 1935? There's a large bloc of people in the USA who think every white
person in the country should feel guilty about slavery today in 2015.
And continue to thus feel guilty forever. To infinity and beyond!

You are the modern Germans. The ones actually contemplating continuing to bail out Greece are their libs.

Also, those who talk the loudest about their guilt don't feel guilty at all. They just want to be SEEN to feel guilty, and like the EU-loving Germans, spend other people's money to make recompense.

Posted by: pep at February 09, 2015 07:18 PM (4nR9/)

349 Meine grosse fette griechische arscheficke!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (CMkNk)

I cannot believe you said that....so I'm getting "Mine is a gross feet and gracious assflick!" Amirite?

Posted by: Badda Bing at February 09, 2015 07:19 PM (Msg5U)

350 I'm going to take a completely contrarian view here:

Germany has benefited the most from the Eurozone. Instead of exporting at Deutsche Mark levels versus a deeply discounted Drachma, the Germans get the cheaper currency from the Eurozone. Hence, German exports are far more competitive within Europe than otherwise possible. In a similar vein, the free capital flow in the Eurozone allowed German banks to invest in more profitable countries (Greece, Southern Europe) while the going was good. This propped up German exports for the whole 2000s and first half of the 2010s.

Now that the periphery countries are bankrupt, the Germans want to keep the fiscal structure from the 2000s. This is very self-serving. The Germans loaned money to the Greeks to buy German goods. Now that the Greeks are bankrupt, the Germans want the Greek state to ruin itself to repay the money to the Germans. Instead of acting with prudence in the 2000s, the Germans want the export sales and the loan repayments, a benefit only possible because Greece was trapped in the same currency as Germany. The Germans want their cake, low Euro exchange rate, and to eat it too, no fiscal transfers to uncompetitive regions.

This is as if a developed US state, New York, wanted to be part of the US, without sending its tax dollars to an under-competitive state, say Vermont. That works as long as New York and Vermont are growing, when Vermont is doing poorly, it wants to renegotiate that deal.

Long story short, the Germans had this coming and I don't feel sorry for them.

Posted by: Arkady at February 09, 2015 07:19 PM (ET/v4)

351 345 323 J.J., that's what the Windex is for.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 07:18 PM (u82oZ)

My dad used WD-40, but glad you got the reference!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:19 PM (CMkNk)

352 Proper spelling of Mary's last name is: WhoCoggedUpTheShitterStien..

Posted by: Mary Dipshit from Idiotsboro, Vermit at February 09, 2015 07:19 PM (Xgc4p)

353 349 I cannot believe you said that....so I'm getting "Mine is a gross feet and gracious assflick!" Amirite?
Posted by: Badda Bing at February 09, 2015 07:19 PM (Msg5U)

Ummmm. . . . no.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:20 PM (CMkNk)

354 I remember staying in a Greek hotel in WII. Bodies floated past every window. The Germans were ruthless. Now they refuse to pay reparations to enable Grease to have some semblance of normalacy.

Brb: Have to rescue kitten from high rise fire.

Posted by: Brian Williams at February 09, 2015 07:20 PM (zxQ4h)

355
And the Germans care about that because ...?

Oh, they don't.
I am sure they know they are not getting paid and are just readying the marshmallows.

Posted by: Dandolo at February 09, 2015 07:20 PM (wyI5D)

356 it's the Germans who should leave the EU, it does nothing for them except spend their money.

Posted by: Shoey at February 09, 2015 07:20 PM (vA94g)

357 321 Interesting Greeks are even better than interesting Italians. They play Spades better than anyone.

Posted by: Barry O'Fuckstick at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (L+9ot)

No, I'm not going there.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:20 PM (oKE6c)

358 Can we combine this with a travel thread. I've always wanted to the Greek isles, should I be in before Europe gets itself into another war because they really can't all just get along?

Ha! Assuming the Rooskies and Turks stayed out, it would be a damn farce, as the only people there with fighting spirit any more are the muzzies and most if not all the national armed forces are a joke (those that still bother!)

If the theme to WWI was "Over There" and WWII was "In Der Fuhrer's Face", a new European war (sans Russia etc.) would be to the strains of "Yakety Sax"...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, by the Pale Moon light at February 09, 2015 07:20 PM (m9V0o)

359 Germany needs a collector, like all good loan sharks. Send the Turks to collect.

Nice Erechtheion you got there. Be a shame if something was to happen to it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2015 07:20 PM (8ZskC)

360 Didn't most of the Louvre come from the french revolutionary armies saying pay us off, or we loot your cities?

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 07:21 PM (k19Aq)

361 More examples of the Single Dumbest Man Ever effect

He isn't that dumb. As was said on the panel tonight, he's either supremely cynical, or outright delusional. My money is on cynical.

Posted by: pep at February 09, 2015 07:21 PM (4nR9/)

362 I do love some Greek food, however. And I'd kill for some moussaka right now.

Damn Adkins.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:21 PM (FsuaD)

363 "Can I just finish my falafel?"

/Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 07:21 PM (NeFrd)

364 The odd thing about this discussion is that we are giving the German workers a lot of props for their productivity and hard work. True, they are queen of the pigs in Europe but they don't even come close to the productivity in the US.

Take a visit to Leipzig or other formerly East German cities. Germany has tons of their own internal problems and their economy isn't really all that when you compare it to ours.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 07:22 PM (g1DWB)

365 Greece should follow the Detroit Model: everyone just get up and leave.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 07:22 PM (2o6Wj)

366 Greek names sound like parasitic worms and diseases.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 07:22 PM (hlbmD)

367 beware greeks bearing debts

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 09, 2015 07:22 PM (Cq0oW)

368 There is no road out of debt for Greece. Even if they trimmed their social programs, which they won't, and collected all their taxes, which they won't, they could never get out of debt, not in 20 years.

The ONLY solution is, and has been, default, exiting the euro, and going back to the drachma. They will have a few more very tough years, but after that there is a chance for prosperity.

This cannot be avoided, only postponed as it has been three times already with more "restructuring" of the debt. The longer the necessary bankruptcy is deferred, the worse the pain will be. There is no way around it.

Posted by: Adjoran at February 09, 2015 07:22 PM (QIQ6j)

369 I saw Pubic Hair Riffs open for Hole in the SEATAC Arena in1993

Posted by: Minuteman at February 09, 2015 07:22 PM (7ClUK)

370 What you are seeing???

Hayek vs Keynes... ie.... Germany vs. Greece...

Posted by: BB Wolf at February 09, 2015 07:22 PM (qh617)

371 By the way, I'm on leave but I'm still lying about my lying.

Posted by: Lyin' Brian Williams at February 09, 2015 07:23 PM (1Y+hH)

372 13 Germany could exit the Euro instead.

Imagine the havoc?
----
That was my first unrealistic thought too. Fk'em all.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 09, 2015 07:23 PM (MbrzC)

373 "Nice Erechtheion you got there."

If it lasts for more than four hours, consult your physician.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at February 09, 2015 07:23 PM (iIzG7)

374 Long story short, the Germans had this coming and I don't feel sorry for them.

Posted by: Arkady at February 09, 2015 07:19 PM (ET/v4)

And I take it the Greeks have no agency? What are they responsible for?
This sounds suspiciously like the apologia for subprime mortgagees who took out loans they could never repay.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:23 PM (oKE6c)

375 #350 - All very funny, except for the fact that Greece owes money they refuse to pay because they pay non-workers to sit on their asses.

Remember the Gods of the Copybook Headings.

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

If you don't work you die.
You don't eat.
Greece stole from their own paybook to purchase the ease of the indigent and lazy. They owed, they did not pay, they deserve starvation.
Period.
Good try, too bad you're on the side of people who do not pay their debts.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at February 09, 2015 07:23 PM (scgac)

376 Who is Germany to cast aspersions at Greece? They have yet to answer for the Stasi, Berlin Wall, and those steroid-swilling female Olympic swimmers who denied many Greeks their rightful Olympic glory.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 09, 2015 07:23 PM (ufrZ6)

377 353
349 I cannot believe you said that....so I'm getting "Mine is a gross feet and gracious assflick!" Amirite?

Posted by: Badda Bing at February 09, 2015 07:19 PM (Msg5U)

Ummmm. . . . no.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:20 PM (CMkNk)

Well i was just spitballin', and you have to jump on a technicality.

Posted by: Badda Bing at February 09, 2015 07:23 PM (Msg5U)

378 368 There is no road out of debt for Greece. Even if they trimmed their social programs, which they won't, and collected all their taxes, which they won't, they could never get out of debt, not in 20 years.

Posted by: Adjoran at February 09, 2015 07:22 PM (QIQ6j)

Now.... change Greece to US... and what is different?

Posted by: BB Wolf at February 09, 2015 07:24 PM (qh617)

379 Buncha drachma queens!

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 07:24 PM (NeFrd)

380 Didn't the Greeks just elect their own Obama? F*ck 'em.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:24 PM (FsuaD)

381 I'm still pretty pissed about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 07:24 PM (oFCZn)

382 377 Well i was just spitballin', and you have to jump on a technicality.
Posted by: Badda Bing at February 09, 2015 07:23 PM (Msg5U)

"My Big Fat Greek AssFu**"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:24 PM (CMkNk)

383 Interesting Greeks are even better than interesting Italians. They play Spades better than anyone

I thought that was the Sicilians?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:25 PM (mx5oN)

384 381 Dack is on a roll.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 07:25 PM (u82oZ)

385 Perhaps the Greeks should try the 32 hour workweek and a 75% tax on high earners. The French seem to think it's aces.

Posted by: pep at February 09, 2015 07:25 PM (4nR9/)

386 381 I'm still pretty pissed about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 07:24 PM (oFCZn)

They bombed Pearl Bailey. So the Krauts are off the hook for that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:25 PM (CMkNk)

387 382
377 Well i was just spitballin', and you have to jump on a technicality.

Posted by: Badda Bing at February 09, 2015 07:23 PM (Msg5U)

"My Big Fat Greek AssFu**"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:24 PM (CMkNk)

LOL! JJ. too much.

Posted by: Badda Bing at February 09, 2015 07:25 PM (Msg5U)

388 I'm still pretty pissed about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.

But we didn't quit!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2015 07:25 PM (08Znv)

389 Let's get the Horde together and buy a Greek island. We could probably negotiate a pretty good deal.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:26 PM (FsuaD)

390 Now.... change Greece to US... and what is different?
Posted by: BB Wolf at February 09, 2015 07:24 PM (qh617)

Not much, from an accounting perspective, I think. Except the world has a vested interest in pretending we're still solvent, and the ripples will be much bigger when they finally admit that we aren't.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:26 PM (bAg1C)

391 There is no way around it.

Posted by: Adjoran at February 09, 2015 07:22 PM (QIQ6j)

People say that right before every new loan-bailout.

Maybe they'll be right this time, maybe not.

Posted by: Lyin' Brian Williams at February 09, 2015 07:26 PM (1Y+hH)

392 And I take it the Greeks have no agency? What are they responsible for?
This sounds suspiciously like the apologia for subprime mortgagees who took out loans they could never repay.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:23 PM (oKE6c)

The Greeks choose the Euro to get lower loans and, at least for the public, some hope at a decent government. They've only gotten ruin. They'll suffer enough for their errors.

I was just pointing out that the Germans are hardly innocent here, they are benefitting the most from the Euro. Euro makes them extremely competitive within Europe and protects German exports outside of Europe. That is why they won't leave and that is why the other countries (Italy, Spain, Greece, and maybe France) should leave.

Posted by: Arkady at February 09, 2015 07:26 PM (ET/v4)

393 366 Greek names sound like parasitic worms and diseases.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 07:22 PM (hlbmD)

A classmate of mine was Effie Gianitis. Sounds fatal.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:26 PM (CMkNk)

394 389 Let's get the Horde together and buy a Greek island. We could probably negotiate a pretty good deal.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:26 PM (FsuaD)

I'm pretty sure I saw Lesbos on Craigslist.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:27 PM (mx5oN)

395 "We could probably negotiate a pretty good deal."

They're going to be having a Going-Out-Of-Business sale real soon.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at February 09, 2015 07:27 PM (iIzG7)

396 Madness? No. THIS! IS!...okay, I admit it, this is madness.

Posted by: Leonidas at February 09, 2015 07:27 PM (9F2c1)

397 389 I'm in. We must have a Castle Anthrax to build there.

Is Zoot a Greek name?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 07:27 PM (u82oZ)

398 381
I'm still pretty pissed about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 07:24 PM (oFCZn)

Get off your high horse...Crusades! Slavery!

Posted by: Obamalama at February 09, 2015 07:27 PM (Msg5U)

399 Obama compared ISIS to the criminal element in
big cities tonight.

Posted by: MTF at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (FCsIb)

He compared ISIS to blacks??

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:27 PM (oKE6c)

400 They bombed Pearl Bailey. So the Krauts are off the hook for that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:25 PM (CMkNk)

I can't even say out loud what they did to Moms Mabley.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 07:28 PM (oFCZn)

401 What you are seeing???

Hayek vs Keynes... ie.... Germany vs. Greece...

Posted by: BB Wolf at February 09, 2015 07:22 PM (qh617)

A little mood music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQnarzmTOc

Posted by: The Rappin' Hat at February 09, 2015 07:28 PM (0Ew3K)

402 Let's get the Horde together and buy a Greek island. We could probably negotiate a pretty good deal.

Isn't that where they filmed ABBA? Come to think of it Greece has never been the same since Pierce Brosnan tried to sing.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2015 07:28 PM (08Znv)

403 399 He compared ISIS to blacks??
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:27 PM (oKE6c)

No. Hassidic Jews.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:28 PM (CMkNk)

404 Greek names sound like parasitic worms and diseases.

Say that to my face.

Posted by: Testiclees at February 09, 2015 07:28 PM (4nR9/)

405 I'm pretty sure I saw Lesbos on Craigslist.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:27 PM (mx5oN)

I think the National Organization of Women already (ahem) snatched that one.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:28 PM (oKE6c)

406 Let's get the Horde together and buy a Greek island. We could probably negotiate a pretty good deal.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:26 PM (FsuaD)

The Republic of Ace.

The only country where you are required by law to carry a gun at all times, when outside your dwelling. This is to include weddings and trips to the beach.

The only food that our government subsidizes is bacon.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:28 PM (bAg1C)

407 Heh. Sgt. Drew Peterson (remember that jackass?) tried to hire a hitman from behind bars to take out his prosecutor.

The douche is so full of fail.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:28 PM (FsuaD)

408 I'm pretty sure I saw Lesbos on Craigslist.

****

Careful. That's a good way to catch Hermes.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 07:28 PM (NeFrd)

409 Obama's Ukrainian "Strategic Incontinence" continues ~~leaking~~ linking in my sock.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 09, 2015 07:28 PM (2KB+E)

410 Now.... change Greece to US... and what is different?
Posted by: BB Wolf at February 09, 2015 07:24 PM (qh617)

Illuminating that would take more typing than possible here. There's a world of difference.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2015 07:29 PM (1Y+hH)

411 1935? There's a large bloc of people in the USA who think every white
person in the country should feel guilty about slavery today in 2015.
And continue to thus feel guilty forever. To infinity and beyond!

Whether or not said white people had any familial connection at all to the actual practice of slavery does not matter.

Whether or not said white people even had ancestors _in_ the USA
during the era of slavery (some modern white Americans did not) also
does not matter.

Hell, my family owned slaves - and I don't feel guilty at all.

Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2015 07:29 PM (ztOda)

412 399 Obama compared ISIS to the criminal element in
big cities tonight.

Posted by: MTF at February 09, 2015 07:14 PM (FCsIb)

He compared ISIS to blacks??
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:27 PM (oKE6c)

Be fun to watch him try to walk that back. Course it'll only be noticed here.

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 07:29 PM (5+mPY)

413
Aceidis of Spadeidis.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:29 PM (CMkNk)

414 Say that to my face.

Posted by: Testiclees

Not everyone can have a good name.

Posted by: Biggus Dickus at February 09, 2015 07:29 PM (iIzG7)

415 Let's get the Horde together and buy a Greek island. We could probably negotiate a pretty good deal.

I want Ithaca.

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at February 09, 2015 07:30 PM (rwI+c)

416 Greece is poking and poking Germany? Really Greeks? You want to go there?

Posted by: Russkilitlover at February 09, 2015 07:30 PM (qhoDM)

417 405 I'm pretty sure I saw Lesbos on Craigslist.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:27 PM (mx5oN)

I think the National Organization of Women already (ahem) snatched that one.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:28 PM (oKE6c)

Is that the bunch that all look like Gimli?

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 07:30 PM (5+mPY)

418 Let's get the Horde together and buy a Greek island. We could probably negotiate a pretty good deal.

I want Ithaca.

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at February 09, 2015 07:30 PM (rwI+c)

Lesbos.

Posted by: EC at February 09, 2015 07:31 PM (doBIb)

419 Let's get the Horde together and buy a Greek island. We could probably negotiate a pretty good deal.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:26 PM (FsuaD)

And then declare war on Peruvia.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 07:31 PM (oFCZn)

420 Hell, my family owned slaves - and I don't feel guilty at all.

Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2015 07:29 PM (ztOda)

Do they still have any? Cause' trade ya'.

Posted by: Badda Bing 'now with Badda Boom' at February 09, 2015 07:31 PM (Msg5U)

421 I'm pretty sure if the Horde bought an island, we'd never see a hipster, hippie, gangbanger, elitist prog, or raving feminazi. Unless we invited them over for sport.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:31 PM (FsuaD)

422 Greece is poking and poking Germany? Really Greeks?

What kind of a boy's name is Germany, anyway?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:31 PM (mx5oN)

423 Let's get the Horde together and buy a Greek island. We could probably negotiate a pretty good deal.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:26 PM (FsuaD)

I think we'll be bidding against Mikhail from St. Petersburg and Viktor from Moscow. Possibly Abdulla from KSA and Chen from Guangdong China.

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 07:31 PM (k19Aq)

424 417 Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 07:30 PM (5+mPY)

The sister island is called Straponadildoni.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:31 PM (CMkNk)

425 418
Let's get the Horde together and buy a Greek island. We could probably negotiate a pretty good deal.

I want Ithaca.

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at February 09, 2015 07:30 PM (rwI+c)

Lesbos.

Posted by: EC at February 09, 2015 07:31 PM (doBIb)

Mikos

Posted by: Badda Bing 'now with Badda Boom' at February 09, 2015 07:31 PM (Msg5U)

426 OT: SJW makes thread harassing herself... forgets to switch to sockpuppet account first.

http://bit.ly/1y1OrG3

Posted by: The Rappin' Hat at February 09, 2015 07:32 PM (0Ew3K)

427 Be fun to watch him try to walk that back. Course it'll only be noticed here.
Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 07:29 PM (5+mPY)

I know this may be a bit of a stretch, but seeing what some of the narco gangs in Mexico get up to, he may be closer than we think...

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:32 PM (bAg1C)

428 Ace as King Leonidas?

I bet even Frau Mary Cloggenstien might swoon.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2015 07:32 PM (08Znv)

429 I'm pretty sure the Greeks could jumpstart their economy by spending on infrastructure and creating shovel-ready jobs.

Posted by: Fritz at February 09, 2015 07:32 PM (dVmLD)

430 The sister island is called Straponadildoni.

I thought that was some kind of Italian dessert.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:32 PM (mx5oN)

431 The Greeks are now on Double Secret Probation. They keep it up, they're going to get the UVa treatment, too.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at February 09, 2015 07:32 PM (iIzG7)

432 429 I'm pretty sure the Greeks could jumpstart their economy by spending on infrastructure and creating shovel-ready jobs.
Posted by: Fritz at February 09, 2015 07:32 PM (dVmLD)

Bury all the antiquities and then dig them up again.

Problem solved.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:33 PM (CMkNk)

433 I'm pretty sure if the Horde bought an island, we'd never see a hipster,
hippie, gangbanger, elitist prog, or raving feminazi. Unless we invited
them over for sport.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!! I bring you the hipster legionaires of Berkeley!!!

*crowd roars*

Unleash the honey badgers!!!!!

Posted by: EC at February 09, 2015 07:33 PM (doBIb)

434 430 The sister island is called Straponadildoni.

I thought that was some kind of Italian dessert.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:32 PM (mx5oN

Stracciatelli?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:33 PM (CMkNk)

435 Lesbos.
Posted by: EC at February 09, 2015 07:31 PM (doBIb)

...And incite an insurrection, just so the headlines will read LESBIANS REBEL.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:33 PM (bAg1C)

436 Okay, Mr. Tsipras, you win. But beware. We Germans aren't all smiles und sunshine.

Posted by: Horst at February 09, 2015 07:33 PM (rwI+c)

437 I see the horde on the firing line.

"Pull."

Brian Williams is shredded by RPGs.

It's good to be an Ewok.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 07:33 PM (u82oZ)

438 Is Zoot a Greek name?

****

I thought he was the head honcho on Olympus. Big guy. Married to Hera.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 07:34 PM (NeFrd)

439 Bury all the antiquities and then dig them up again.

Problem solved.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:33 PM (CMkNk)

Bury their old people? JJ fo' reals'?

Posted by: Badda Bing 'now with Badda Boom' at February 09, 2015 07:34 PM (Msg5U)

440 422...i really have to watch my verbiage with the horde.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at February 09, 2015 07:34 PM (GHf0J)

441 When the Germans steamroll through Europe for a third time I hope America stays out of the affair.

Posted by: Achilles at February 09, 2015 07:34 PM (TpeIH)

442 435 Lesbos.
Posted by: EC at February 09, 2015 07:31 PM (doBIb)

...And incite an insurrection, just so the headlines will read LESBIANS REBEL.
Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:33 PM (bAg1C)

Flooring will be the national export.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:34 PM (mx5oN)

443 439 Bury their old people? JJ fo' reals'?
Posted by: Badda Bing 'now with Badda Boom' at February 09, 2015 07:34 PM (Msg5U)

No, but that would bend down the cost curve of SouvlakiCare significantly.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (CMkNk)

444 Unaccustomed as I am to speaking in evening threads....(holy crap, you people do 400 comments too?).

This is the end game of Nazi guilt. The Germans are really obsessed with atoning for the sins of their great-grandfathers. They're culturally liberal, they get that WWI was a Bad Thing, and they are fairly desperate to show the world that they are not bad people.

So one of the things they try to do is buy off their guilt. They've propped up Southern Europe for decades. And what happened last summer when they said no fresh bailout for Greece?

The Greeks protested with posters of Merkel with a Hitler mustache.

Sooner or later they'll realize they can't buy their way out of Nazi guilt and they'll stop trying.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (1xUj/)

445 435 Lesbos.
Posted by: EC at February 09, 2015 07:31 PM (doBIb)

...And incite an insurrection, just so the headlines will read LESBIANS REBEL.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:33 PM (bAg1C)

No, no - the headlines will read "Lesbians are revolting!"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (oKE6c)

446 Ace as King Leonidas?

Val-U-Rite ouzo!

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (9F2c1)

447 Flooring will be the national export.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:34 PM (mx5oN)
As well as service engineers for Subarus and Miatas.

Posted by: EC at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (doBIb)

448 No, but that would bend down the cost curve of SouvlakiCare significantly.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (CMkNk)

No shit...pensions.

Posted by: Badda Bing 'now with Badda Boom' at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (Msg5U)

449 Flooring will be the national export.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:34 PM (mx5oN)

Scissoring

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (oFCZn)

450 261 The EU is a ponzi scheme that will collapse once the music stops and nobody will be hit harder than Germany.
---

Wouldn't be best then for them to bail first? I know they will not...I'd just like to hear more spit-balling on why they don't like what medium and long term harms for them I'm not thinking about.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 09, 2015 07:36 PM (MbrzC)

451 Watching the morons riding little donkeys all over the island, drunk, would be hilarious.

I claim a cottage with a sea view. I'll operate a taverna.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:36 PM (FsuaD)

452 445 No, no - the headlines will read "Lesbians are revolting!"
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (oKE6c)

If they lose: "Lesbians Called On Carpet."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:36 PM (CMkNk)

453 438 Common Core for the win. Or something.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 07:36 PM (u82oZ)

454 449 Flooring will be the national export.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:34 PM (mx5oN)

Scissoring
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (oFCZn)

That would be the national pastime.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:36 PM (mx5oN)

455 "Lesbians go without pants and swill liquor"

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 09, 2015 07:36 PM (6/J77)

456 No, no - the headlines will read "Lesbians are revolting!"
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (oKE6c)

DAMMIT you beat my joke!

*shakes impotent digital fist*

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:36 PM (bAg1C)

457 That was a typo. WWII.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 09, 2015 07:36 PM (1xUj/)

458 If the Moron Horde is about to move to the Greek islands, does that make Santorini (the volcano that blew up the Minoans) the new SMOD?

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at February 09, 2015 07:37 PM (9F2c1)

459 When the Germans steamroll through Europe for a third time I hope America stays out of the affair.

Posted by: Achilles at February 09, 2015 07:34 PM (TpeIH)

With What? Last report I was said that they cannot even get half their tanks running, with the tanks parked in garrison. Their army is in worsw shape than Jimmy Carter's army was.

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 07:37 PM (k19Aq)

460 Oh gawd. Greta interviewing Rick Sanctimonius, his wife, and poor little daughter.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:37 PM (FsuaD)

461 446 Ace as King Leonidas?

Val-U-Rite ouzo!
Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (9F2c1)

Hobos and Phobos.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:38 PM (CMkNk)

462 449 Flooring will be the national export.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:34 PM (mx5oN)

Scissoring
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (oFCZn)

How about motorboating? As in motorboating Rosie O'D? My God, what a sick and twisted mind... I plead delirium.

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 07:38 PM (5+mPY)

463 If they lose: "Lesbians Called On Carpet."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:36 PM (CMkNk)

"Lesbian Batteries Discharged"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:38 PM (oKE6c)

464 "He lets the last Greek go, waits until his wife and kids are in the
ground, and then he goes after the rest of the country. He kills their kids. He
kills their wives. He kills their parents and their parents' friends. He
burns down the houses they live in, the stores they work in. He kills people
that owe them money. And like that, he's gone. Underground. Nobody's
ever seen him since. He becomes a myth, a spook story that borrowers tell
their kids at night. "Welch on your debts and Germany will get you."

Posted by: Keith Arnold at February 09, 2015 07:38 PM (iIzG7)

465 458
If the Moron Horde is about to move to the Greek islands, does that make
Santorini (the volcano that blew up the Minoans) the new SMOD?

Yes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:38 PM (FsuaD)

466 The Parthenon looks like a good fixer-upper.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 07:38 PM (2o6Wj)

467 With What? Last report I was said that they cannot even get half their
tanks running, with the tanks parked in garrison. Their army is in worsw
shape than Jimmy Carter's army was.

But France surrendered anyway, just to be on the safe side, then went on vacation.

Posted by: pep at February 09, 2015 07:38 PM (4nR9/)

468 462 Kraken you'er on a time out until you bring brain bleach.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 09, 2015 07:39 PM (u82oZ)

469 Thank God our Union could never run into a situation like this. *cough* California *cough*

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at February 09, 2015 07:39 PM (JoIcn)

470 463 "Lesbian Batteries Discharged"
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:38 PM (oKE6c)

"Lesbians Licked."

How the hell did we miss that one?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:39 PM (CMkNk)

471 With What? Last report I was said that they cannot even get half their tanks running, with the tanks parked in garrison. Their army is in worsw shape than Jimmy Carter's army was.
Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 07:37 PM (k19Aq)

Well, since they're the only ones with cash, they could take use of the Foreign Legion in lieu of some of the money France owes them. Use that to roll up the Greeks and whoever.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:39 PM (bAg1C)

472 The Oracle and the Sausage by Spankyourpita

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 09, 2015 07:40 PM (6/J77)

473 This is the end game of Nazi guilt. The Germans are really obsessed with atoning for the sins of their great-grandfathers. They're culturally liberal, they get that WWI was a Bad Thing, and they are fairly desperate to show the world that they are not bad people.

So one of the things they try to do is buy off their guilt. They've propped up Southern Europe for decades. And what happened last summer when they said no fresh bailout for Greece?

The Greeks protested with posters of Merkel with a Hitler mustache.

Sooner or later they'll realize they can't buy their way out of Nazi guilt and they'll stop trying.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 09, 2015 07:35 PM (1xUj/)

Sort of the way many of us are feeling about Racism, Sexism, and the Welfare State?

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 07:40 PM (k19Aq)

474 The Germans have a way of settling debts.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2015 07:40 PM (Rx8ML)

475 Has Greece pulled the Nazi invasion card yet? If I were the Lefty leader I would have it available.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at February 09, 2015 07:40 PM (Xrson)

476 With What? Last report I was said that they
cannot even get half their tanks running, with the tanks parked in
garrison. Their army is in worsw shape than Jimmy Carter's army was.

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 07:37 PM (k19Aq)

So what? I bet even half the Germans' tanks is more than enough to kick the rest of Europe's ass. What's France going to do, borrow the jointly-owned aircraft carrier from Britain?
Their absolute preparedness is irrelevant; it's their relative preparedness.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:40 PM (oKE6c)

477 Greek fiscal policy:

Steal from Pita to pay Paul.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 07:40 PM (NeFrd)

478 When today's Germany tries to mobilize for a war this time, it will make the US mobilization during the Cuban Missile Crisis look like the Apollo Moon Landing.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 09, 2015 07:40 PM (XO6WW)

479 Well, since they're the only ones with cash,
they could take use of the Foreign Legion in lieu of some of the money
France owes them. Use that to roll up the Greeks and whoever.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:39 PM (bAg1C)

Or just give the Greeks a few bucks to surrender.

Posted by: Badda Bing 'now with Badda Boom' at February 09, 2015 07:40 PM (Msg5U)

480
George Stephanopoulos.

Don't know where to go with that other than he's a short Greek commie who was born with 5 o'clock shadow.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:41 PM (CMkNk)

481
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 07:40 PM (NeFrd)

haha

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 09, 2015 07:41 PM (6/J77)

482 "Lesbians Licked."

How the hell did we miss that one?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 07:39 PM (CMkNk)

Damn. We're slipping.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:41 PM (oKE6c)

483 When today's Germany tries to mobilize for a war this time, it will make the US mobilization during the Cuban Missile Crisis look like the Apollo Moon Landing.

I have no idea if that means good or laughable.

Posted by: toby928(C) at February 09, 2015 07:41 PM (rwI+c)

484 What's France going to do, borrow the jointly-owned aircraft carrier from Britain?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:40 PM (oKE6c)

Seriously? Timeshares as national defense policy?

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:42 PM (bAg1C)

485 Andrea Tantaros can join us and be our minister of tourism.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:42 PM (FsuaD)

486 The Germans could solve a big chunk of our economic problem by hiring a few regiments of laidoff US veterans.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 09, 2015 07:42 PM (XO6WW)

487 Dukakis might show up with his tank.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 07:42 PM (hlbmD)

488 Maybe the Greeks need an ouzo colonic, and meditation on Olympus about changing their ne'er-do-well ways.

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 07:42 PM (5+mPY)

489 487
Dukakis might show up with his tank.

Hillary might show up in the tank.

Posted by: pep at February 09, 2015 07:43 PM (4nR9/)

490 "I think in Merkel's shoes, I would go with the second option. "
--
As would I, along with reintroducing the Mark, in preparation for the inevitable.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 09, 2015 07:43 PM (MbrzC)

491 Am I the only one who thinks Ouzo is freaking disgusting?

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:43 PM (bAg1C)

492 Seriously? Timeshares as national defense policy?

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:42 PM (bAg1C)

Yep. I didn't make that up.
"Hey, Dad, can I have the keys to the aircraft carrier?"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:43 PM (oKE6c)

493 "Dukakis might show up with his tank."

Bravo, sir. Why that one didn't occur to me in a thread with Greeks and warfare, I may never know.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at February 09, 2015 07:43 PM (iIzG7)

494 Ask the Oracle.

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at February 09, 2015 07:44 PM (rwI+c)

495

Golden Dawn,
what's that armband you have on,
could it be a swastika from days gone by?

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497 Posted by: toby928(C) at February 09, 2015 07:41 PM (rwI+c)

When you find out let me know.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at February 09, 2015 07:44 PM (Xrson)

498 Yep. I didn't make that up.
"Hey, Dad, can I have the keys to the aircraft carrier?"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:43 PM (oKE6c)

***

"I say Nigel, would you be a good lad and pop round to Paris and see if we can borrow the flattop this weekend, what? Cheerio mate!"

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 07:44 PM (NeFrd)

499 Re the shared aircraft carrier: http://tinyurl.com/329dyus

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:45 PM (oKE6c)

500 Get this: Greece wants to not pay back the billions it has borrowed from
Germany, and in fact would very much to like to borrow billions more
(which it will also not repay, so I don't know what "borrow" means here)

There's an obvious lesson here. Don't lend to anyone who you know can't pay it back (student loans, looking at you) or anyone who you can't compel to pay you back (which is pretty much any government anywhere)

Posted by: Methos at February 09, 2015 07:45 PM (A6vWB)

501 "... and if those philosophers and, uh, boy-lovers have found that kind of nerve..."

Posted by: Keith Arnold at February 09, 2015 07:46 PM (iIzG7)

502 Well, to be fair, so many UK-French projects have gone so well in the past. Like the Concord, which was...

No, wait, it was hideously overbudget and too expensive to operate and the only people who ever operated it were BA and Air France, because they had to.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:46 PM (bAg1C)

503 So, on Sundays, Tuesdays, Thursdays, one country gets it? And on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, the other country gets it?

Posted by: EC at February 09, 2015 07:47 PM (doBIb)

504 "Seriously? Timeshares as national defense policy?"

Is is the Swiss or Austrian air force that closes shop at 5pm Friday and doesn't open up again until Monday morning.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 07:47 PM (LBReu)

505 Biggest Greek export?

Play-Doh

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 07:48 PM (NeFrd)

506 Threads slowing so, I have a new murder machine on order, paid too much but, NIB!. Someone ask me about it.

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at February 09, 2015 07:48 PM (rwI+c)

507 Let's get the Horde together and buy a Greek island. We could probably negotiate a pretty good deal.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 07:26 PM (FsuaD)
----
I assume it would have to be renamed "Busty Lesbos" per usage rules.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 09, 2015 07:48 PM (KH1sk)

508 I'm going long on the drachma and cabana boys.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at February 09, 2015 07:48 PM (7v8o1)

509 504 Swiss

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2015 07:48 PM (k19Aq)

510 503 So, on Sundays, Tuesdays, Thursdays, one country gets it? And on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, the other country gets it?

Posted by: EC at February 09, 2015 07:47 PM (doBIb)

No. One country gets the first half of the flight deck, the other, the second half.

Landings are kinda tricky.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:48 PM (oKE6c)

511 We went to Greece on our Honeymoon, They can keep that turd world country, the Islands are great.. Every House we saw looked unfinished, we didn't know why and then we asked our tour guide and she said that if you house was UNFINISHED it would not be taxed. You would see houses with the first floor finished and the second floor unfinished.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 09, 2015 07:49 PM (b6koZ)

512
Threads slowing so, I have a new murder machine on order, paid too much but, NIB!. Someone ask me about it.

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at February 09, 2015 07:48 PM (rwI+c)

Derringer?

Posted by: EC at February 09, 2015 07:49 PM (doBIb)

513 We were just talking with our financial dudes today about this. He'd warned us a while back, and the elections sealed it. Greece will back out if they don't get more free money. Spain, Portugal and Italy will follow - and you just know that France will be the ones to go to the bathroom and dive out the window, leaving Germany with the bill.

Except Germany sees it coming.

On the up side, the dollar and bonds are going to improve. Until Obongo gets in a war with Russia. When Greenspan says buy gold and fuck the first person you see, we're doomed.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 09, 2015 07:49 PM (sH832)

514 Is is the Swiss or Austrian air force that closes shop at 5pm Friday and doesn't open up again until Monday morning.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 07:47 PM (LBReu)

The Dutch army has weekends off. Good thing they take this defense thing seriously.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:49 PM (oKE6c)

515 My guess is that the French will be in charge of the mess.

Posted by: pep at February 09, 2015 07:49 PM (4nR9/)

516 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 07:47 PM (LBReu)

Well, honestly, both of those countries fall into the Who Cares category.

Reminds me of a class I took in the Army, where the Luxembourg Army was discussed (yes, it exits): 850 guys and 25 Humvees.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:49 PM (bAg1C)

517 Derringer?

One of these http://tinyurl.com/oxrvmc2

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at February 09, 2015 07:50 PM (rwI+c)

518 "Biggest Greek export?
Play-Doh"

What a coincidence - that's what the Federal Reserve manufactures, right here in America!

Posted by: Keith Arnold at February 09, 2015 07:50 PM (iIzG7)

519 On the up side, the dollar and bonds are going to improve. Until Obongo gets in a war with Russia. When Greenspan says buy gold and fuck the first person you see, we're doomed.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 09, 2015 07:49 PM (sH832)

The first person he'll see is Andrea Mitchell. So spare a thought for Greenspan.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:50 PM (oKE6c)

520 Greece could put the unemployed to work pitting olives. Why can Spain pit their olives but Greece can't?

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 07:51 PM (2o6Wj)

521 Hell yeah!

Did you get the drum too?

Posted by: EC at February 09, 2015 07:51 PM (doBIb)

522 I assume it would have to be renamed "Busty Lesbos" per usage rules.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 09, 2015 07:48 PM (KH1sk)

The capital city will be named Pron.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:51 PM (bAg1C)

523 Reminds me of a class I took in the Army, where the Luxembourg Army was discussed (yes, it exits): 850 guys and 25 Humvees.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:49 PM (bAg1C)

Fun fact: the Canadian Army is smaller than the NYPD.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:52 PM (oKE6c)

524 Did you get the drum too?

Not yet. It comes with two 40s but I gots to get the drum.

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at February 09, 2015 07:52 PM (rwI+c)

525 The capital city will be named Pron.
Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:51 PM (bAg1C)
---
Behold the Temple of Pronos!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 09, 2015 07:52 PM (KH1sk)

526 Greece could put the unemployed to work pitting olives. Why can Spain pit their olives but Greece can't?

Posted by: bergerbilder

Would you trust olives from a bunch of angry commies?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 09, 2015 07:52 PM (DMJw2)

527 Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:52 PM (oKE6c)

They don't have independent services, do they? IIRC it's just one service that runs everything.

Even so, wow.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:53 PM (bAg1C)

528 The Greeks are just extending their traditionally-preferred sexual practice to their lenders.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:53 PM (oKE6c)

529 Fun fact: the Canadian Army is smaller than the NYPD.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:52 PM (oKE6c)

Which does that say more about: Canada or New York City?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 09, 2015 07:54 PM (wt/Oq)

530 526 Greece could put the unemployed to work pitting olives. Why can Spain pit their olives but Greece can't?

Posted by: bergerbilder

Would you trust olives from a bunch of angry commies?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 09, 2015 07:52 PM (DMJw2)

Sorta like - would you trust pickles from a bunch of fast food slackers?

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 07:54 PM (5+mPY)

531 527 Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:52 PM (oKE6c)

They don't have independent services, do they? IIRC it's just one service that runs everything.

Even so, wow.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:53 PM (bAg1C)

Dunno. Fun fact from the CIA World Factbook (re Canada), and the Intertubes (re NYPD).

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:54 PM (oKE6c)

532 Behold the Temple of Pronos!
Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 09, 2015 07:52 PM (KH1sk)

...The ancient god of body wax and personal lubricants.

Hymns to Pronos are a long series of grunts.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:54 PM (bAg1C)

533 So, this is the google.de image search for "merkel as hitler". It actually autocompletes as "merkel als hitler griechenland".

http://bit.ly/1IH3lwL

And you can see how grateful Greece is for all the help.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 09, 2015 07:54 PM (1xUj/)

534 Why doesn't Germany say "FUCK YOU GUYS!" and leave the east of the EU to starve to death trying to pay their bills with Monopoly money?

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at February 09, 2015 07:55 PM (A1Dcl)

535 Fun fact: the Canadian Army is smaller than the NYPD.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:52 PM (oKE6c)

Ten bucks says the Canucks are better shots.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2015 07:55 PM (mx5oN)

536 "Now.... change Greece to US... and what is different?

Posted by: BB Wolf at February 09, 2015 07:24 PM (qh617) "
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A the root, not much, up toward the surface lots, at least for the moment but that could change relatively quick.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 09, 2015 07:55 PM (MbrzC)

537 No, Sicilians lie better than anyone else. That's why they learned the pantomime.

Posted by: Christopher Walken at February 09, 2015 07:55 PM (L+9ot)

538 Angela Merkin is not to be toyed with.

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 07:56 PM (5+mPY)

539 Germany to Greece: "Piss Off!!"

Greece to Germany: "Pay UP!!"

At some point, they will come to blows. I don't suppose there are any Austrian Archdukes prancing around waiting to be shot, are there?

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 09, 2015 07:56 PM (+YMhA)

540 There was a time, when I was young, I kept a lock of hair of every woman I got familiar with. I always kept a pair of scissors on me. Even when I went to church, yes, there were my scissors in my pocket! We're men, after all; you never know what'll come along, do you?

"So, like that, I made a collection of locks of hair. There were dark ones, fair ones, ginger ones, even a few white ones. I collected such a lot, I stuffed a pillow with them. I stuffed the pillow I slept on-only in winter, though. In summer it made me too hot. Then, a bit later, I got fed up with that, too-you see, it began to stink, so I burned it."

Posted by: Zorba at February 09, 2015 07:57 PM (rwI+c)

541 Lots of Greek islands for sale. The tax burden is killing the owners:

http://tinyurl.com/qcpvdj8

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 09, 2015 07:57 PM (KH1sk)

542 "389 Let's get the Horde together and buy a Greek island. We could probably negotiate a pretty good deal."
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Everyone jokes here but some of them have already been sold off, and there are a few for sale still.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 09, 2015 07:57 PM (MbrzC)

543 Ten bucks says the Canucks are better shots

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ha yeah send the nyc cops to Iraq heh

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 09, 2015 07:57 PM (Cq0oW)

544 Darth Merkel?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 07:57 PM (hlbmD)

545 540
Posted by: Zorba at February 09, 2015 07:57 PM (rwI+c)

Do you have a crawl space, by any chance?

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 07:58 PM (5+mPY)

546 The EU is putting Greece on Ebay next week

Posted by: Mario Draghi at February 09, 2015 07:59 PM (5vHT/)

547 Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 09, 2015 07:57 PM (KH1sk)

Paywall. Here:

privateislandsonline.com/areas/greece

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:59 PM (bAg1C)

548 The place to exercise the most power is in the middle, where now others have something to gain by doing what you want.

The Greeks (and the rest of Europe) have made pretty clear that they'll hate the Germans no matter what, so why should the Germans bother trying to make nice?

I've made the same argument re the blacks and the Democrat Party. The smart strategy would be to be in the middle, so the two parties vie to give you what you want. When you're all-in for one side, neither side is inclined to do much for you: one has nothing to gain, the other has nothing to lose.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:59 PM (oKE6c)

549 535 Fun fact: the Canadian Army is smaller than the NYPD.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:52 PM (oKE6c)

Canada doesn't have as many blacks to kill.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 07:59 PM (2o6Wj)

550 Posted by: Zorba at February 09, 2015 07:57 PM (rwI+c)

Senator Reid?

What are you doing here?

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 08:00 PM (bAg1C)

551 520 Greece could put the unemployed to work pitting olives. Why can Spain pit their olives but Greece can't?
Posted by: bergerbilder

Believe it or not, keeping olive intact with pits is a conscious marketing decision for most Greek olive farmers.

In the world of olive retailing, high-end top-quality olives are rarely if ever pitted; they are kept whole and intact for two reasons: To indicate their quality, and also to get more money per kilo of their highest-value product!

The medium-quality olives are almost always pitted and sold without pits, for recipes and so forth.

And the lowest quality olives are simply pressed to make olive oil, and not sold whole.

The Greek are proud that their olives are perceived as and are in fact higher quality than most olives grown elsewhere. Hence the standard practice in Greek not to pit most of their olives -- because they actually are in the top tier of best olives.

You're talking to someone whose job actually involves olive marketing!

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:00 PM (K4YiS)

552 >>Lots of Greek islands for sale. The tax burden is killing the owners:

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that buying desirable property in a country that just elected a communist government and is about to go tits up financially might not be a sound investment.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 08:00 PM (g1DWB)

553 According to Wikipedia the balance stands at

NYPD
49,526 (2013)
With a budget of 4.8 Billion

Canadian Armed Forces
68,250 active duty(as of 2011) and 27,000 reserve

with a budget of 20.1 Billion (Canadian)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 09, 2015 08:01 PM (wt/Oq)

554 You're talking to someone whose job actually involves olive marketing!
Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:00 PM (K4YiS)

But, what about the pee?

Posted by: Kraken at February 09, 2015 08:01 PM (5+mPY)

555 Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:00 PM (K4YiS)

------------------

Come for the wisecracks, stay for the education!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 08:02 PM (oKE6c)

556 But, what about the pee?
Posted by: Kraken

Pee?

Are you thinking of asparagus?

Or is there some secret about olives and pee of which I am unaware?

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:02 PM (K4YiS)

557 You're talking to someone whose job actually involves olive marketing!
Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:00 PM (K4YiS)

So which brand is best?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 08:00 PM (g1DWB)

The Horde probably has more guns than the Greek Army

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 08:02 PM (bAg1C)

558 "You're talking to someone whose job actually involves olive marketing!"

I don't think I ever expected to read that sentence.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 08:02 PM (LBReu)

559 olive marketing?

man, takes a whole lotta love

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 09, 2015 08:03 PM (Cq0oW)

560 533 So, this is the google.de image search for "merkel as hitler". It actually autocompletes as "merkel als hitler griechenland".

http://bit.ly/1IH3lwL

And you can see how grateful Greece is for all the help.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 09, 2015 07:54 PM (1xUj/)

Hmm. Similar to certain "minorities" in the U.S. How many trillions have we spent on social programs so far? Yet it's never enough.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2015 08:03 PM (sdi6R)

561 Didn't the godfather market olive oil?
Hmmmm.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 08:03 PM (WNERA)

562 There ain't jack on television, watching Mets classics from '88

Really miss Ralph Kiner and Tim McCarver when he was bearable.

Oh and OT.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 09, 2015 08:04 PM (ONSbT)

563 I've made the same argument re the blacks and the Democrat Party. The smart strategy would be to be in the middle, so the two parties vie to give you what you want. When you're all-in for one side, neither side is inclined to do much for you: one has nothing to gain, the other has nothing to lose.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 07:59 PM (oKE6c)

Reminds me of The Departed at the beginning when Nicholson's character is describing the Irish and says he faults blacks because "No one gives you anything...you gotta take it."

They've been sitting around waiting to be given and it's really not working out well for them.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 08:04 PM (oFCZn)

564 If I win the Powerball, I'm buying Beaver Island in Lake Michigan and declaring myself Imperatrix. Any good tinpot dictator needs henchman, so get those resumes in! And, because I'm all equal opportunity and shit, wenchmen (for the 'ettes).

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 09, 2015 08:04 PM (KH1sk)

565 NYPD

49,526 (2013)

With a budget of 4.8 Billion

Canadian Armed Forces

68,250 active duty(as of 2011) and 27,000 reserve

with a budget of 20.1 Billion (Canadian)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 09, 2015 08:01 PM (wt/Oq)
" As of September 2013 the Army has 21,600 regular soldiers, about 24,000 reserve soldiers, and 5,000 rangers, for a total of 50,600 soldiers." (Wiki, "Canadian Army")
I wouldn't count reserves, myself.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 08:04 PM (oKE6c)

566 Why doesn't Germany say "FUCK YOU GUYS!" and leave the east of the EU to
starve to death trying to pay their bills with Monopoly money?

Because the formal disintegration of the EU also vaporizes the life savings of most of Germany, which the Germans don't want to face up to (it's already happened, it's just a matter of recognizing it). Further the EU as a project is something the German government very much wants, regardless of whether the German people do. Kind of like with DC and immigration, except they already got it done and are trying to hang on to it.

Posted by: Methos at February 09, 2015 08:05 PM (A6vWB)

567 Any good tinpot dictator needs henchman, so get those resumes in!

====

do you have a lair shaped like a skull?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 09, 2015 08:06 PM (Cq0oW)

568 So which brand is best?

Posted by: Secundus

If I told you I'd have to kill you.

I can't get specific, but small farming cooperatives in the Kalamata region who hand-pick their crops produce incredible tasting olives. But they're not easy to get ahold of in the US.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:06 PM (K4YiS)

569 Because the formal disintegration of the EU also
vaporizes the life savings of most of Germany, which the Germans don't
want to face up to (it's already happened, it's just a matter of
recognizing it).

Posted by: Methos at February 09, 2015 08:05 PM (A6vWB)
Why is that? I don't understand.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 08:06 PM (oKE6c)

570 "You're talking to someone whose job actually involves olive marketing!"

I don't think I ever expected to read that sentence.

Well, yes. I had the same thought.

In teh Horde you never know when Marshal McCluhan is going to step out from behind the poster and say "you know nothing of my work".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 09, 2015 08:07 PM (1xUj/)

571 565
My mistake, I looked at Armed forces as a whole.

Touché.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 09, 2015 08:07 PM (wt/Oq)

572 Well, NY is alone approximately 1/4 of the entire population of Canadeh.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 08:07 PM (LBReu)

573 Filippio Berio?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 08:08 PM (hlbmD)

574 564
If I win the Powerball, I'm buying Beaver Island in Lake Michigan and
declaring myself Imperatrix. Any good tinpot dictator needs henchman,
so get those resumes in! And, because I'm all equal opportunity and
shit, wenchmen (for the 'ettes).

Heh. Beaver Island.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:08 PM (FsuaD)

575 am i the only one who was waiting for Muldoon to chime in with something on the order of "olives? sounds like the pits"?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 09, 2015 08:09 PM (Cq0oW)

576 Heh. Beaver Island.

What's your point?

Posted by: Beaver Stadium at February 09, 2015 08:09 PM (1xUj/)

577 do you have a lair shaped like a skull?
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 09, 2015 08:06 PM (Cq0oW)
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"Skull-shaped island lair" is actually at the top of my list, followed by "personal submarine fleet".

Ooh, I'll need some boomer fags too. Apply within!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 09, 2015 08:09 PM (KH1sk)

578 The reason the EU is trying so hard to hold on is they're trying to save their sweet bureaucratic gigs as long as possible. Like refusing to help save the Titanic because you don't want to give up the first Cello position you worked so hard for.

Posted by: FDR's Television at February 09, 2015 08:10 PM (ne2fm)

579 "You're talking to someone whose job actually involves olive marketing!"

That job sounds like the pits.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 08:10 PM (oFCZn)

580 Really miss Ralph Kiner and Tim McCarver when he was bearable.
---
Don't forget to stay tuned for Kiner's Corner after the game.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 09, 2015 08:10 PM (MbrzC)

581 boomer f-?

you mean like Bruised Gender?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 09, 2015 08:11 PM (Cq0oW)

582 575 am i the only one who was waiting for Muldoon to chime in with something on the order of "olives? sounds like the pits"?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 09, 2015 08:09 PM (Cq0oW)

Damn you!

I gotta move faster around here...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 08:11 PM (oFCZn)

583 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 09, 2015 08:11 PM (4gN5w)

584 Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:06 PM (K4YiS)

It's all good. That's what I buy anyway...

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 09, 2015 08:04 PM (KH1sk)

I'll sign on, but only if you promise AtC doesn't get any job with the words "Ministry", "Commissar" or "Fear" in the title

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 08:11 PM (bAg1C)

585 zombie, this discussion just reminds me of a famous character from the beloved Christmas carol:

Olive, the other reindeer...

I'm here all week, try the ~~veal~~ venison

Posted by: Piercello at February 09, 2015 08:12 PM (QJCCx)

586 Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 09, 2015 08:09 PM (Cq0oW)

***

I'm still trying to figure out where they get the extra virgin olive oil from.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 08:12 PM (NeFrd)

587 "What's your point?"

Yeah?

Posted by: Oregon St Beavers at February 09, 2015 08:12 PM (LBReu)

588
So, time to watch for the obligatory "EU Can Survive Without Greece" articles?

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2015 08:12 PM (1Y+hH)

589 564 If I win the Powerball, I'm buying Beaver Island in Lake Michigan and declaring myself Imperatrix.
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Give it up, this Powerball drawing is mine, hands off!

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 09, 2015 08:12 PM (MbrzC)

590 The EU wanted to compete with and be a huge economic world force like America. They couldn't pull it off. Half the countries want to suck off the ones that actually work. Funny how that spend and spend socialism always plays out in the end. A leftist spend thrift is like a petulant teenager that runs up your credit card thousands and thousands of dollars than says you are "mean" and says, "I hate you," when you finally cut the card up and tell them to get a job. I hope they kick Greece out. As much as I love France, they can stuff it on this one.

Posted by: Mistress NOpe at February 09, 2015 08:12 PM (2/oBD)

591 If I win the Powerball, I think I might buy a whole bunch of Greek islands along with all rights of sovereignty, territory, etc. and declare myself Archduke. Hey, it's not like they don't need the cash.

Posted by: Cato at February 09, 2015 08:13 PM (3HxZe)

592 I believe what NYC pays each year in pensions and health care to retirees is equal to the annual budget for the current NYPD.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 09, 2015 08:13 PM (ufrZ6)

593 I'll buy Thermopylae with my Powerball winnings.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 08:13 PM (hlbmD)

594 What will the name of the capitol on Beaver Island be?

*types*

*deletes*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:13 PM (FsuaD)

595 "Well this will go some ways towards our debt, and I suppose not having to deal with jokes about the island's name is a good thing, but why did they rename it 'Alextopia'...?"

--Greek official, after the Horde's check to buy the isle of Lesbos clears

Posted by: Brother Cavil, by the Pale Moon light at February 09, 2015 08:13 PM (m9V0o)

596 I think it's about time we had a reverse Marshall.plan. All the deadbeat countries need to.start giving us mass quantities of free money. Give it straight to the taxpayers, don't let Mooch and the rest glom their hands onto it.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 09, 2015 08:14 PM (LImiJ)

597 ...of course the EU could survive without Greece! What the hell does Greece have to offer anyone? Greece is just dead weight. Let 'em go bankrupt and perhaps they will FINALLY get a clue!

Posted by: Mistress NOpe at February 09, 2015 08:14 PM (2/oBD)

598 "Why is that? I don't understand.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 08:06 PM (oKE6c) "
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I'm going to say cause their savings are in euros.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 09, 2015 08:14 PM (MbrzC)

599 Isn't Split a city in Croatia?

Split, Beaver.

*denounces self*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:14 PM (FsuaD)

600 The EU reminds me of "Homeland Security"
Another layer of bureaucracy nobody needed
And a huge waste of money

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 08:16 PM (nzKvP)

601 I'm still trying to figure out where they get the extra virgin olive oil from.

-
Those olives don't even think about doing it.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 09, 2015 08:16 PM (LImiJ)

602 @592

Actually NYC pays more to its retirees than its active duty police force.

4.7B vs 4.8B

Posted by: Kreplach at February 09, 2015 08:16 PM (ONSbT)

603 602 @592

Actually NYC pays more to its retirees than its active duty police force.

4.7B vs 4.8B

Posted by: Kreplach at February 09, 2015 08:16 PM (ONSbT)

And that is just freaking insane.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 09, 2015 08:18 PM (wt/Oq)

604 The only place that's worth a damn in Greece is the isle of Lesbos.

And all I wanted to do is say the word Lesbos.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 09, 2015 08:18 PM (ONSbT)

605 This.Is.Sparta!

and it can be YOURS for a mere 1.5 billion EUR

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 09, 2015 08:18 PM (Cq0oW)

606 Buy Greek olives. They're the pits!

Posted by: Greek Board of Trade at February 09, 2015 08:18 PM (2o6Wj)

607 Leavittown, Beaver?

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 08:18 PM (NeFrd)

608 594 What will the name of the capitol on Beaver Island be?

*types*

*deletes*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:13 PM (FsuaD)

Shaved.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 09, 2015 08:18 PM (z/Ubi)

609 What the hell does Greece have to offer anyone? Greece is just dead weight.

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They were ruled by the Turks for centuries. The Turks!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 09, 2015 08:18 PM (LImiJ)

610 Why is that? I don't understand.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 08:06 PM (oKE6c)
That's where the money came from to loan the Greeks (among others) in the first place. There is no way to get it back because the Greeks (and others) flushed it away on social handouts which, as in America, simply vanishes into the ether.

Posted by: Methos at February 09, 2015 08:19 PM (A6vWB)

611 609 All those years in a Turkish prison wreckedum.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 08:20 PM (hlbmD)

612 And in case you didn't know. I-75 in Michigan. Exit 69. Big Beaver Road.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 09, 2015 08:20 PM (z/Ubi)

613 @603

There are 36K active duty and 43K retirees.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 09, 2015 08:21 PM (ONSbT)

614 >>Isn't Split a city in Croatia?

Yep. Used to be a city in Yugoslavia and my ex's family came from a spot not too far away. When Tito took over they lost their land.

Thus my comment about not buying property in countries going commie and broke. I've seen this movie.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 08:21 PM (g1DWB)

615 I want to run the liquor store. Beaver Liquors.

Posted by: freaked at February 09, 2015 08:21 PM (JdEZJ)

616 612 - Does it have wide shoulders?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 09, 2015 08:22 PM (MbrzC)

617 Capital city: Seymour, Beaver

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 08:22 PM (NeFrd)

618 And in case you didn't know. I-75 in Michigan. Exit 69. Big Beaver Road.

There's an exit off I-80 in Pennsylvania.

"Mile Run. 2 Miles"

Posted by: Beaver Stadium at February 09, 2015 08:23 PM (1xUj/)

619 Mark Levin is talking about the murder selfie now.

Criminals do tend to be rather stupid, but a murderer posting a photo of himself and his victim on the internet is a new level of stupid.

It sort of reminds me of a guy around here who robbed a bank and dropped his wallet while fleeing. The cops were waiting for him when he returned home. But that was accidental.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2015 08:23 PM (sdi6R)

620 "Beaver Liquors."

Heh.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 08:23 PM (LBReu)

621 Capitol city: Mt. Hairy, Beaver

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:23 PM (FsuaD)

622 609 What the hell does Greece have to offer anyone? Greece is just dead weight.

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They were ruled by the Turks for centuries. The Turks!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 09, 2015 08:18 PM (LImiJ)

That's what hurt them so badly. Same for Albania and same for pretty much all of the Balkans.

500 years under Islam leaves a mark.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 09, 2015 08:23 PM (oFCZn)

623 Both Germany and France are, respectively, still buying Mark and Franc coins.
Paper money you can whomp up in an afternoon if you have the plate engraved, but the coins are another issue.

I have always wondered if France and Germany had a "EuroFail escape raft" planned all along.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2015 08:24 PM (t//F+)

624 Wynona had a big brown beaver.

Posted by: Primus at February 09, 2015 08:24 PM (2o6Wj)

625 I'm still trying to figure out where they get the extra virgin olive oil from.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man

NEVER buy anything other than Extra Virgin.

It's just a term that means the oil was extracted entirely by mechanical means. And it's always by far the best.

It goes like like:

First pressing of fresh olives = Extra Virgin
Second/third pressing of those same olives = Virgin
Chemicals used to extract and separate the remaining oil from the crushed olive paste = regular ol' "olive oil."

Also, if you can get it buy olive oil that is "grown and packed in California." Why? Because most olive oil "imported from Italy" (or Spain) is in fact made from olives grown in North Africa or Turkey, and then shipped to Italy to be pressed, and then exported to America and the UK as "Italian" olive oil. But it's bogus -- a marketing ploy. The quality control and pesticide use laws in N. Africa and Turkey are atrocious compared to the quality control here.

But what about all the olives they really do grown in Italy and Spain? Ah -- they keep those for themselves! They slough off the crap olives on the Americans, with deceptive labeling. Seriously.

Next time you're in the store, carefully read the back of the label of any olive oil "imported from Italy (or Spain)." You will likely see, in tiny print, "Made with olives grown in Tunisia" or whatever.

As for Greek olive oil - -it's as good as the California olive oil, but actually quite difficult to get in the US - -that is, real true extra virgin greek olive oil. As with the other countries, they tend to consume the best stuff all domestically.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:24 PM (K4YiS)

626
619 Mark Levin is talking about the murder selfie now.

Criminals do tend to be rather stupid, but a murderer posting a photo of himself and his victim on the internet is a new level of stupid.

It sort of reminds me of a guy around here who robbed a bank and dropped his wallet while fleeing. The cops were waiting for him when he returned home. But that was accidental.
Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2015 08:23 PM (sdi6R)

He posted it to snap chat which is supposed to delete pictures after a few seconds of viewing if I have that right. I don't have the app so I can't do any tests. But dumbass thug probably doesn't know that even if snapchat deletes it you can do a screen capture of your phone.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 09, 2015 08:26 PM (z/Ubi)

627 As for Greek olive oil - -it's as good as the California olive oil, but actually quite difficult to get in the US - -that is, real true extra virgin greek olive oil. As with the other countries, they tend to consume the best stuff all domestically.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:24 PM (K4YiS)

***

Our Greek friend brings us a bottle once or twice a year. Unlabeled bottle, straight from his family's place. Good stuff.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at February 09, 2015 08:26 PM (NeFrd)

628 As for Greek olive oil - -it's as good as the
California olive oil, but actually quite difficult to get in the US -
-that is, real true extra virgin greek olive oil. As with the other
countries, they tend to consume the best stuff all domestically.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:24 PM (K4YiS)

There is excellent olive oil being made right here in S. Georgia. It's pricey, and the only place I've seen it is in Whole Foods.

Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Georgia Olive Farms, Lakeland, Georgia

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:26 PM (FsuaD)

629 You laugh but I graduated from Beavercreek High School. The football team was The Battling Beavers. I've heard em all.

Posted by: freaked at February 09, 2015 08:27 PM (JdEZJ)

630 "...social handouts which, as in America, simply vanishes into the ether."

Oversimplification there. Grocers for example do quite well off EBT cards. There are other examples. It's not as efficient as private commerce but there is a postive ripple economically from welfare. Hair dressers and nail girls do real well also from my observations.

It comes nowhere close to ameliorating the damage done of course.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2015 08:27 PM (1Y+hH)

631 Reminds me of a class I took in the Army, where the Luxembourg Army was discussed (yes, it exits): 850 guys and 25 Humvees.
posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 07:49 PM (bAg1C)

I've been told their medical techs are really really cute, and their aid units serve killer pastries. I think the term used was, "made getting injred seem like a good idea in that NATO exercise"

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2015 08:27 PM (t//F+)

632 This island will need a park. Call it Big Bone Lick after the one in Kentucky.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 09, 2015 08:27 PM (ucDmr)

633 Oh yea.

Go Beavers!

Posted by: freaked at February 09, 2015 08:27 PM (JdEZJ)

634 Oh, the people who make those jeans with rips and fancy back pockets do well also.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2015 08:27 PM (1Y+hH)

635 Zombie, as a person who likes his olives, that is good to know.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 08:28 PM (LBReu)

636 cool zombie thanks

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 08:28 PM (g/zj9)

637 Our Greek friend brings us a bottle once or twice a year. Unlabeled bottle, straight from his family's place. Good stuff.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man

I'm jealous! Count yourself lucky.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:28 PM (K4YiS)

638 dropped his wallet while fleeing. The cops were waiting for him when he returned home.

-
Back when I was on the dark side, I had a meth freak client who supported himself by burglarized storage lockers. He broke into one and stole some useless stuff. And he left his own expensive bolt cutter on the floor with his name on them.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 09, 2015 08:29 PM (LImiJ)

639 There is excellent olive oil being made right here in S. Georgia. It's pricey, and the only place I've seen it is in Whole Foods.

Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Georgia Olive Farms, Lakeland, Georgia

Posted by: Jane D'oh

Buy it!

Local counts for a lot when it comes to olive oil. Fresher is better.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:29 PM (K4YiS)

640 The football team was The Battling Beavers. I've heard em all.
Posted by: freaked at February 09, 2015 08:27 PM (JdEZJ)
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Ours would be the Eager Beavers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 09, 2015 08:30 PM (KH1sk)

641
Buy it!

Local counts for a lot when it comes to olive oil. Fresher is better.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:29 PM (K4YiS)

Oh, I did. It's excellent. I reserve it for great salads.

Someone on the Food Network was raving about it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:30 PM (FsuaD)

642 Beaver Falls PA

Home of Joe Willie

So a Willie and a Beaver

You do the math

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 08:31 PM (nzKvP)

643 There is excellent olive oil being made right here in S. Georgia.

How? As I understand it, Olives can't survive a hard freeze. I live on the gulf coast and they aren't supposed to be able to survive here.

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at February 09, 2015 08:32 PM (rwI+c)

644 630 - Trickle-up economics.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 08:33 PM (2o6Wj)

645 On Trailer Park Boys, when Ricky found out his car had a flat tire, he taught his daughter that they would need to borrow a tire from a neighboring car. Greece is Ricky, from Trailer Park Boys.

Posted by: Dave S. at February 09, 2015 08:34 PM (UvR6d)

646 Was an excellent piece on Stratfor, behind a paywall, about why Germany has made their own bed in this case with having such an oversized part (over 50%) of their economy based on exports. That's great when times are good and you can loan money to your neighbors to buy your stuff (all in the same currency even), but that always depended on the very naive theory that the southern European economies, which have always been shaky, would suddenly become more responsible. Now they're faced with a hard leftist calling their bluff, and neither outcome is going to be good for Germany or the EU. Give in to Greek demands, then the rest of the PIGS will want a piece. Fail to give in to their demands, and the EU might collapse.

Posted by: Damasca at February 09, 2015 08:34 PM (B35Dy)

647 643
There is excellent olive oil being made right here in S. Georgia.

How? As I understand it, Olives can't survive a hard freeze. I
live on the gulf coast and they aren't supposed to be able to survive
here.

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at February 09, 2015 08:32 PM (rwI+c)

I don't know anything about olive trees, but they're thriving. They're small batch right now, and thus a bit pricey. We have some friends who've bought land near Lakeland and want to grow olive trees.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:34 PM (FsuaD)

648 Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2015 08:27 PM (t//F+)

One thing the Germans had on their posts were kickass NCO clubs with full bar and badass food.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 08:35 PM (bAg1C)

649 Heh. O'Reilly showing Lyin' Brian telling his harrowing story of surviving Katrina.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:36 PM (FsuaD)

650 "Greece is Ricky, from Trailer Park Boys."

*snaps finger*

Smokes. Give 'em up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 08:36 PM (LBReu)

651 619
It sort of reminds me of a guy around here who robbed a bank and dropped his wallet while fleeing. The cops were waiting for him when he returned home. But that was accidental.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2015 08:23 PM (sdi6R)

I forgot to mention that I actually knew that guy. He was a regular at a bar where I used to hang. I thought he was a total asshole and avoided him as much as possible. Even so, I was surprised when I heard that he robbed a bank. And was amused by the rest of the story.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2015 08:37 PM (sdi6R)

652 i've heard that argument, but Greece is tiny

Germans weren't made rich by Greek demand for BMWs

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 08:38 PM (g/zj9)

653 649
Heh. O'Reilly showing Lyin' Brian telling his harrowing story of surviving Katrina.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:36 PM (FsuaD)

-----

I especially crack up at the serious face, with eyebrow raised, when Brian Williams says "I beat that storm. I was there before it arrived." We should have all seen it coming just from that line.

Posted by: Dave S. at February 09, 2015 08:38 PM (UvR6d)

654 This place is so edumucational. Thanks for the tips, zombie.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at February 09, 2015 08:39 PM (0NdlF)

655 I'll bet there are dozens of other stories Lyin' Brian has told that we don't know of.

My husband says no way the liar will ever be back on NBC. I say he'll be back in a week.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:41 PM (FsuaD)

656 Thanks, zombie, for the all the info on olives!

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 08:42 PM (2o6Wj)

657 Yeah, kudos to zombie for the olive oil info. The Horde is awesome.

Posted by: PabloD at February 09, 2015 08:42 PM (roESk)

658 Olive oil is snap-fab for down under dinning and eating out, too!

Posted by: GREEK EXIT SPECIALIST at February 09, 2015 08:42 PM (liAMt)

659 And just when I was getting sick of the snow, my 6 am flight tomorrow gets cancelled.

Thank you snow gods.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 08:43 PM (g1DWB)

660 Zombie,
Is bookmaking where you make the real money?

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 08:44 PM (WNERA)

661 I once worked for a company that was comparable to Greece, with the Investment houses comparable to Germany. From 2001 to 2008, company grew enormously in size by stupidly priced acquisitions. over leveraged every step of the way, even had a "friend's and family" stock purchase program.

When the market fell apart, so obviously did this place. I Sat in a meeting with the CEO, CMO, and CFO in which the company demanded an additional $200M in funding. The Investment guys laughed, until the CEO pulled a set of keys out of his pocket and threw them on the table. They got their money. This is the way of being a large debtor these days.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 09, 2015 08:44 PM (OBxdH)

662 Awesome. Jesse Waters is at a pirate fest in Tampa, and the hipsters there are as stupid as hipsters anywhere.

And he just showed a cop taking down a "pirate."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:45 PM (FsuaD)

663 My husband says no way the liar will ever be back on NBC. I say he'll be back in a week.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:41 PM (FsuaD)

Remember Michael Vick?

When that story broke, everyone was all over media. He'll never work again, the NFL won't touch him, he'll be a pariah, people love their dogs, etc, etc. He did two years, got out, and immediately went back WHERE?

Remember Kieth Olbermann? Fired and run off in disgrace for being an arrogant loudmouth douche? Took a couple years off and is now back where?

Williams will be back.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 08:45 PM (bAg1C)

664 655: With the standards at NBC lyin Brian will be back. Telling lies is a feature not a bug. Go to push the narrative. Hell, Al Not So Sharpton, Piss Matthews are all still employed. Even Ed Schultz.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 09, 2015 08:46 PM (ucDmr)

665
Williams will be back.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 08:45 PM (bAg1C)

Yep.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 08:46 PM (FsuaD)

666 How about all the cool, productive Germans move to the US?

Europe collapses and we get rich.

Sounds win-win to me.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2015 08:47 PM (MQEz6)

667 And I'll add my thanks to zombie for the olive oil lowdown.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 08:47 PM (bAg1C)

668 Behold the Temple of Pronos!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 09, 2015 07:52 PM (KH1sk)

...The ancient god of body wax and personal lubricants.

Hymns to Pronos are a long series of grunts.

Posted by: Secundus

Tourist: Why is the floor so sticky?

Tour guide: 2500 years of offerings.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 09, 2015 08:48 PM (UVfht)

669 571 565 My mistake, I looked at Armed forces as a whole.

Touche.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 09, 2015 08:07 PM (wt/Oq)

No problem. It's kind of a rhetorical point anyway, and I was afraid I'd misremembered it, so I checked. Pretty telling, isn't it?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 08:48 PM (oKE6c)

670 I think NBC will check the ratings without him. If they don't change, then there is no reason to bring him back (business-wise, anyway). If the ratings are down enough, they'll bering him back for a while on a watch-and-see basis.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 08:48 PM (2o6Wj)

671 Tour guide: 2500 years of offerings.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 09, 2015 08:48 PM (UVfht)

All the prayers start: Dear Pronos, I never thought this would happen to me...

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 08:49 PM (bAg1C)

672 670: Ratings don't mean much in NBC land. Look at the ratings for their news channel. I think about ten people are watching right now.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 09, 2015 08:50 PM (ucDmr)

673 Next time you're in the store, carefully read the back of the label of any olive oil "imported from Italy (or Spain)." You will likely see, in tiny print, "Made with olives grown in Tunisia" or whatever.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:24 PM (K4YiS)

I just checked my Kirkland Signature Extra Virgin Olive Oil, and it specifies "First Cold Pressed, Produced from Italian-Grown Olives" and "Product of Italy" on the label. Is there a loophole in there, or is it probably as advertised?

Posted by: CQD at February 09, 2015 08:50 PM (2dzsA)

674 All this talk of olives has made me hungry fro them -- so I've broken out the Alfonsos and the red Cerignolas!

Both (along with real Kalamatas) are among my favorites varietals.

Alfonsos come from (unexpectedly) Peru! But damn they are great. Cerignolas are from the boot of Italy. Each one is like a meal unto itself.

Once you go olive, you never go back.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:53 PM (K4YiS)

675 Big carjacking. Perp crashed a couple of jacked cars. Crashed on fwy and failed to get a 3rd car. Everyone just took off leaving him there to be shot.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 08:53 PM (WNERA)

676 675: That's a happy ending.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 09, 2015 08:55 PM (ucDmr)

677 I just checked my Kirkland Signature Extra Virgin Olive Oil, and it specifies "First Cold Pressed, Produced from Italian-Grown Olives" and "Product of Italy" on the label. Is there a loophole in there, or is it probably as advertised?
Posted by: CQD

No, that's a good brand -- the label is true. ALWAYS seek out the labels that say "Italian-Grown Olives" and AVOID the labels that only say "Imported from Italy" but don't give specifics about where they're grown.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:55 PM (K4YiS)

678 yes

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 08:55 PM (WNERA)

679 Local counts for a lot when it comes to olive oil. Fresher is better.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:29 PM (K4YiS)

Olive oil is unsaturated, and hence subject to aerial oxidation that splits the carbon chain at the site of unsaturation into two smaller carboxylic acids. Examples of smallish carboxylic acids: butanoic acid (smells like armpit), caproic acid (responsible for the smell of goats), and hexanoic acid (a dead ringer for the smell of used sneakers).
Pro tip: exclude oxygen, and avoid even traces of such degradation.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 08:55 PM (oKE6c)

680 Same with our Trader Joe's Spanish olive oil. "Product of Spain" is all it says. I have to run a gauntlet of hipsters whenever I'm in the store, but their olive oils are decent. The missus likes the Triple Ginger Snaps, too....

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 09, 2015 08:56 PM (9tzvc)

681 Germany bought East Germany

they could tell Greece to Fahrvegnugen off

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 08:56 PM (g/zj9)

682 Amazing how most American Greeks are hardworking,
industrious, G-d fearing and patriotic Americans. At least all the ones
I've ever encountered.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 09, 2015 06:16 PM

That's because all of our hard-working God-fearing grandparents got the hell out of that socialist shit hole years ago. Good thing, too, or you wouldn't be able to find a good roast beef sandwich for love or money around here. :-P

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 09, 2015 08:57 PM (MxDBF)

683 I like how goats smell

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 08:57 PM (g/zj9)

684 "I have to run a gauntlet of hipsters..."

Talk to me after you have been to Whole Foods, novice.

Posted by: navybrat at February 09, 2015 08:58 PM (JgC5a)

685 which is a risky thing to say in the Horde, I realize

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 08:58 PM (g/zj9)

686 684, navybrat. No, once was enough.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 09, 2015 08:59 PM (9tzvc)

687 Triple Ginger Snaps, too' Yea buddy!

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 09, 2015 08:59 PM (R8hU8)

688 Merkel wants to be Frau Europa

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 08:59 PM (g/zj9)

689 685 which is a risky thing to say in the Horde, I realize

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 08:58 PM (g/zj9)

We're trying to decide whether to make a Muslim joke, a coital joke, both, or in a rare display of taste, neither.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 09:00 PM (oKE6c)

690 Talk to me after you have been to Whole Foods, novice.
Posted by: navybrat at February 09, 2015 08:58 PM (JgC5a)

The Whole Foods they just built in Lafayette has a goddamn bar in it. Only been in the store a couple of times-- nice looking stuff, but expensive, and you need two rinses to get the smug outta your clothes.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 09:00 PM (bAg1C)

691 When you belong to a private club, you have to pay your bills, or else, they throw you out.

When did that change?

Posted by: navybrat at February 09, 2015 09:01 PM (JgC5a)

692 Vick also had to sit out a year after serving his jail time. His crime also wasn't related to playing football.

Olbermann should have gotten sued by msnbc because part of his settlement contained bullshit claims that he wouldn't be able to find another job. And ESPN is full of arrogant pompous blowhards. I don't follow olbermann at all, is he still running his mouth on politics even on Twitter or is it like I suspect that he has a "shut your stupid trap about everything except sports" clause.

Williams job relies on his ability to push the Narrative. That's where he has hurt himself people aren't going to trust his lies for the narrative anymore. They need a new untainted monkey in a suit and tie.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 09, 2015 09:01 PM (R3md8)

693 Amazing how most American Greeks are hardworking,
industrious, G-d fearing and patriotic Americans. At least all the ones
I've ever encountered.
They own half the restaurants in Houston and the

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 09, 2015 09:02 PM (R8hU8)

694 I like the smell of goats in the evening. It smells like ... satiety.

Posted by: Mohammad at February 09, 2015 09:02 PM (g/zj9)

695 there, jay

carry on

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 09:03 PM (g/zj9)

696 Trader Joe's was always a place where you could get good stuff, sometimes exotic stuff, on the cheap. I like it, as long as I can get in and out of the parking lot.
The one on Masonic in SF usually has about 20 cars waiting to get in to the parking lot, with a full time parking traffic guy on duty.
The first Trader Joe's I ever went to was in Orange County. At the time, I had never heard of such a place. I immediately loved it.

Now they are everywhere.

Posted by: navybrat at February 09, 2015 09:04 PM (JgC5a)

697 I like how goats smell

I'm going to try to steer this to a safe harbor, because caring giver.

My high school cross country team ran its races at a local agricultural college. Course runs over fields and through woods and then up past the barns and pens in the last mile.

It was always a hoot to run through the course with more urban schools where the kids had never smelled animals before. Kind of a home field advantage.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 09, 2015 09:04 PM (1xUj/)

698 They own half the restaurants in Houston and the

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 09, 2015 09:02 PM

Seriously. You could find a place called Tio Pepe's Taqueria, and I guarantee it's owned by a Greek guy named Niko, and his wife Maria.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 09, 2015 09:04 PM (MxDBF)

699 Italians own the other half

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 09, 2015 09:04 PM (R8hU8)

700 Germany bought East Germany

they could tell Greece to Fahrvegnugen off

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 08:56 PM (g/zj9)

True, but then all the East Germans wound up running the government, as in holding all the big and little appointments and most of the elected offices.

Who told who tho the get Fahrvengengnugen?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2015 09:04 PM (t//F+)

701 Hey, even I understand the concept of good money after bad.

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at February 09, 2015 09:05 PM (53CCM)

702 "They own half the restaurants in Houston "

Pappas Bros?

Posted by: Lauren at February 09, 2015 09:05 PM (MYCIw)

703 697 I like how goats smell

I'm going to try to steer this to a safe harbor, because caring giver.

My high school cross country team ran its races at a local agricultural college. Course runs over fields and through woods and then up past the barns and pens in the last mile.

It was always a hoot to run through the course with more urban schools where the kids had never smelled animals before. Kind of a home field advantage.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 09, 2015 09:04 PM (1xUj/)

That last mile when you're running harder and need all the oxygen you can get and they can't breathe because "what's that smell" and you respond "what smell?"

Posted by: Buzzion at February 09, 2015 09:07 PM (R3md8)

704 Speaking of Fahrvengengnugen (well, another Teutonic company) today I saw the third brand new Audi of the year having a burned out headlight. Two right side, one left. One still had dealer's plates.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 09, 2015 09:08 PM (9tzvc)

705 Their was a link from here on a book about the Olive Oil industry and how it was sooo corrupt, how some would add Vegetable oil to increase thier profit. I always meant to read it. The author even set up a Olive Oil of the month that he investagted that was free from fraud.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 09, 2015 09:09 PM (b6koZ)

706 Merkel wants to be Frau Europa
Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 08:59 PM (g/zj9)

She's a bit old. And where do we get the bull? And what labyrinth do we hide the resultant horrible, misshapen miscegenation?

Ok, so the labyrinth would the regulations covering the European Criminal Court, and the Bull could be Putin, but still...Eww.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2015 09:09 PM (t//F+)

707 Spurs just won to give Coach Pop his 1000th career win. He's the 9th coach to win 1000.

Posted by: stace at February 09, 2015 09:09 PM (ImzkZ)

708 I raised goats as a kid. Mighty tasty.

Posted by: fastfreefall at February 09, 2015 09:09 PM (pqOzY)

709 chickens, though, gack

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 09:10 PM (g/zj9)

710 I am learning quite a lot about Olive oil tonight...

Posted by: Lea - Sorry make that Miss Leaette at February 09, 2015 09:10 PM (vmMMi)

711 How long can you store the olive oil that comes in the large can?

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:12 PM (WNERA)

712 nice

I mean she's down for the USE struggle

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 09:12 PM (g/zj9)

713 705 Their was a link from here on a book about the Olive Oil industry and how it was sooo corrupt, how some would add Vegetable oil to increase thier profit. I always meant to read it. The author even set up a Olive Oil of the month that he investagted that was free from fraud.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio

Yep.

That's why I tend to recommend California olive oil. It's almost always the Real Thing, and not as rife with fraud. Also, California olive farmers have their own association and internal policing for quality: It's a valuable group-brand they all want to protect. No California grower will allow any other California grower to release crap olive oil, because it tarnishes the state's brand for everyone.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 09:12 PM (K4YiS)

714 There's a goat farm nearby called the Soggy Bottom goat farm. So many muslim jokes.

Posted by: Lauren at February 09, 2015 09:12 PM (MYCIw)

715 Speaking of Fahrvengengnugen (well, another Teutonic company) today I saw the third brand new Audi of the year having a burned out headlight. Two right side, one left. One still had dealer's plates.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 09, 2015 09:08 PM (9tzvc)

*******
I used to want a TT Roadster.....bad. That is, until a couple of my cab drivers told me that they had several regular customer's who they picked up and dropped off often from Audi and VW Dealer service centers.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 09, 2015 09:12 PM (xrURQ)

716 "The Whole Foods they just built in Lafayette has a goddamn bar in it. "

That is a great idea. Hubby hands the credit card to wifey and says "I'll be right here if you need me".

Posted by: navybrat at February 09, 2015 09:12 PM (JgC5a)

717 1. I like people who pay their bills and make a living doing things.
2. I like most business owners and enjoy talking to them about their challenges and stories of making things work.
3. I like legal immigrants because they have moxie, gumption, drive, and are generally better people than I am. I hang with them because I like to relearn how to work hard. I also like showing really new people neat things like fly fishing. Thus, my town gets more and more successful and more enthusiastically American.
4. Leftists can't understand anything about 1-3. They read those points and all they hear in their brains filled with hate is "Urr, work. Money. Marx says they steal money. Bad conservatives."
5. Therefore, something has got to give, societally/structurally.

We can't co-exist with people who have decided to worship the words of a syphlitic 19th century coffee house rebel. Something has shock them into sensibility -or eat them alive.

Who thinks it's going to be option 2?

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at February 09, 2015 09:13 PM (scgac)

718 USA debt chickens coming home to roost

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 09, 2015 09:14 PM (HHawz)

719 I store my olive oil in the cabinet next to the exterior wall - keeps it dark and cool, but if jay is right, it's oxygen I should care about

how about topping it off with some inert gas?

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 09:14 PM (g/zj9)

720 711 How long can you store the olive oil that comes in the large can?
Posted by: Bob from table9

There's no specific cutoff date. As with all food, it slowly degenerates, quality-wise, over time. See Jay Guevara's comment above about oxygenization.

The sooner you use it, the better it will taste. But honestly if you still have some left over after a year, it won't hurt ya. Won't be as good is all.

Keep it cold and dark to make it last longer. Since it's already in a can, you got the dark part covered -- so keep the can in a cool place.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 09:15 PM (K4YiS)

721 That's why I tend to recommend California olive oil. It's almost always the Real Thing, and not as rife with fraud. Also, California olive farmers have their own association and internal policing for quality: It's a valuable group-brand they all want to protect. No California grower will allow any other California grower to release crap olive oil, because it tarnishes the state's brand for everyone.
Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 09:12 PM (K4YiS)

So does this mean that we are eventually going to be subjected to stupid commercials of an olive talking at a wedding?

Posted by: Buzzion at February 09, 2015 09:15 PM (z/Ubi)

722 For millennia, fresh olive oil has been one of life's necessities-not just as food but also as medicine, a beauty aid, and a vital element of religious ritual. Today's researchers are continuing to confirm the remarkable, life-giving properties of true extra-virgin, and "extra-virgin Italian" has become the highest standard of quality.

But what if this symbol of purity has become deeply corrupt? Starting with an explosive article in The New Yorker, Tom
Here is the book
Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil
Mueller has become the world's expert on olive oil and olive oil fraud-a story of globalization, deception, and crime in the food industry from ancient times to the present, and a powerful indictment of today's lax protections against fake and even toxic food products in the United States. A rich and deliciously readable narrative, Extra Virginity is also an inspiring account of the artisanal producers, chemical analysts, chefs, and food activists who are defending the extraordinary oils that truly deserve the name "extra-virgin."

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 09, 2015 09:15 PM (b6koZ)

723 "The Whole Foods they just built in Lafayette has a goddamn bar in it. "

So a shot of Four Roses on the rocks is $57?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 09, 2015 09:15 PM (9tzvc)

724 Speaking of olives, have you seen them being harvested in CA?

They spread out a big blanket under the tree, then they have a big vibrating tractor that comes over, grabs the tree by the trunk, and shakes the hell out out of it, looks like about 300 bpm.

Down go the olives.

Posted by: navybrat at February 09, 2015 09:16 PM (JgC5a)

725 593 I'll buy Thermopylae with my Powerball winnings.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2015 08:13 PM (hlbmD)

Hold a renassaince fair. Putting the LARP in Thermlarpmolae.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 09, 2015 09:16 PM (+4uXG)

726 Posted by: Inspector Cussword at February 09, 2015 09:13 PM (scgac)

Driving today I saw the infamous COEXIST bumper sticker. Young male. I surprised me because around here it is mostly 40-50ish women with the COEXIST.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:16 PM (WNERA)

727 >>I am learning quite a lot about Olive oil tonight...

Posted by: Lea - Sorry make that Miss Leaette

Skinny bitch and a real tease.

Posted by: Brutus at February 09, 2015 09:16 PM (3rrMW)

728 I bought some olive oil and balsamic vinegar from a company in N. CA for gifts a year or so ago. Can't remember the name, but they were both excellent.

Oh, it was Lucero.

Posted by: Infidel at February 09, 2015 09:17 PM (uNP/H)

729 Before Germany gets on its high horse... remember..... uuuuhhhmmmm..... Nazis n shit

Posted by: His Barackness at February 09, 2015 09:17 PM (z+4T3)

730 And, once the olive oil goes bad, as a good survivalist you can use it as fuel in your Lehman's olive oil lamps.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 09, 2015 09:17 PM (9tzvc)

731 how about topping it off with some inert gas?
Posted by: Feh

That's a lotta effort to keep your olive oil fresher.

If you keep it cool, the chemical reaction with the oxygen molecules is slowed down, I think, so coolness is a substitute for inert gas.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 09:17 PM (K4YiS)

732 So a shot of Four Roses on the rocks is $57?
Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 09, 2015 09:15 PM (9tzvc)

Dunno about that, but the bar food's pretty good

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 09:17 PM (bAg1C)

733 716
"The Whole Foods they just built in Lafayette has a goddamn bar in it."

Our in Savannah has a pub. They have $3.00 growlers on Thursday night.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:17 PM (FsuaD)

734 coexist - young male

earth girls are easy

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 09:19 PM (g/zj9)

735 I am now 40 miles from the closest Whole Foods, and couldn't be happier.

Posted by: Lauren at February 09, 2015 09:19 PM (MYCIw)

736 Sorry I messed up my copy and paste
Here is the book
Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 09, 2015 09:19 PM (b6koZ)

737 how about topping it off with some inert gas?
Posted by: Feh

Shopping list:
Milk
Bread
Cheese
K-bottle of argon

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 09:19 PM (bAg1C)

738 Other than the powertrain, the only difference between Audis and Volkswagons is about 20 pounds of NHV*
materials

*Noise, Vibration, & Harshness

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 09, 2015 09:19 PM (4gN5w)

739 Our in Savannah has a pub. They have $3.00 growlers on Thursday night.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:17 PM (FsuaD)

That's a 64 ounce bottle, for those of you thinking obscene thoughts right now

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 09:20 PM (bAg1C)

740 There are no assholes like a Seattle asshole in an Audi.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 09, 2015 09:20 PM (9tzvc)

741 733 716
"The Whole Foods they just built in Lafayette has a goddamn bar in it."

Our in Savannah has a pub. They have $3.00 growlers on Thursday night.
----
Nice! Our whole foods was in a location that used to be a hippie store but they are building a new one right by my office. They are supposed to have expanded lunch options, but there was no mention of a bar...

Posted by: Lea - Sorry make that Miss Leaette at February 09, 2015 09:20 PM (vmMMi)

742 where's my harold mcgee

Posted by: Feh at February 09, 2015 09:20 PM (g/zj9)

743 Driving today I saw the infamous COEXIST bumper sticker. Young male. I surprised me because around here it is mostly 40-50ish women with the COEXIST.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:16 PM (WNERA)

He was driving his stepmom's car.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 09, 2015 09:21 PM (1Y+hH)

744 The Whole Foods up here in NJ have nothing, Nada, shum debar Only high prices

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 09:21 PM (nzKvP)

745 Poor momma owl is sitting on the nest, cold, soaking wet, and hungry. She's been squawking for the male to bring her some damned food.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:21 PM (FsuaD)

746 As a part time prepper I heard the canned olive oil is good for a couple years kept cool.

We can buy freeze dried food that lasts a couple of decades but oil not so much. Looking for a longer term solution.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:21 PM (WNERA)

747 and linky:

http://landingsbirdcam.com/

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:21 PM (FsuaD)

748 Driving today I saw the infamous COEXIST bumper sticker. Young male. I surprised me because around here it is mostly 40-50ish women with the COEXIST.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:16 PM (WNERA)

That bumper sticker makes me sick and wanting to ram their car

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 09:22 PM (nzKvP)

749 724 Speaking of olives, have you seen them being harvested in CA?

They spread out a big blanket under the tree, then they have a big vibrating tractor that comes over, grabs the tree by the trunk, and shakes the hell out out of it, looks like about 300 bpm.

Down go the olives.
Posted by: navybrat

The exact same machines are used to shake WALNUT trees in California too!

But olives harvested that way are generally used for making OIL, and not eaten as table olives.

To harvest the best table olives you're supposed to pick them individually by hand. Which is what the small farmers do in Greece. You only pluck the ones that are perfectly ripe - -and leave the rest for later.

When you shake, you get ripe and unripe mixed together -- so they make it into oil.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 09:22 PM (K4YiS)

750 Most of the Whole Foods going forward will have bars in them. My firm did the Lafayette store.

New hotness is brew pubs in store. See the Post Oak store in Houston for the latest example.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 09, 2015 09:22 PM (TqXWc)

751 Posted by: TexasDan at February 09, 2015 09:22 PM (TqXWc)

I see the Horde has infiltrated even the inner workings of Whole Foods.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 09:23 PM (bAg1C)

752 Jane, just up the hill from us, on one of the playfield light standards in the park, is an eagle's nest. Occupied every year. I have seen Dad eagle coming back from Puget Sound with a small salmon in his talons, or with some rodent type thing from the woods below us. If I were more ambitious I would camp out there and take some pictures and post them someplace.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 09, 2015 09:25 PM (9tzvc)

753 This thread needs to be put out to pasture stat. Woah. Pretty sure Greece would promise to start behaving if we got a new thread up in here.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 09, 2015 09:26 PM (oa/c7)

754 That bumper sticker makes me sick and wanting to ram their car
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 09, 2015 09:22 PM (nzKvP)

It was all I could do to not flip off the driver. Then I remembered I can't teach everyone to drive and I can't fix stupid.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:26 PM (WNERA)

755 I've pretty much stopped going to Whole Foods ever since I found out they have a corporate no-guns policy, and I have two other choices nearby (TJ and HEB-CM) that don't try to ban guns. I say "try" because WF's signs at the TX stores have lettering that's too small, so the signs have no legal standing.

Weird that WF is a TX chain and Trader Joe's the CA chain doesn't ban guns in TX.

Posted by: stace at February 09, 2015 09:27 PM (ImzkZ)

756 748. Saw one the other day that said " Coexist - With Scott Walker". Heh!

Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 09, 2015 09:27 PM (Pj2Ne)

757 I've never watched Ronin until tonight. Made in 1998. And damn if they didn't have a super woman who can physically hold their own in this movie too. Have to admit it was a awesome car chase though and I hate car chases.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at February 09, 2015 09:28 PM (Xrson)

758 731 how about topping it off with some inert gas?
Posted by: Feh

That's a lotta effort to keep your olive oil fresher.

If you keep it cool, the chemical reaction with the oxygen molecules is slowed down, I think, so coolness is a substitute for inert gas.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 09:17 PM (K4YiS)

The big factors are oxygen and light, not temperature. Light of suitable frequency (near UV, IIRC) converts triplet oxygen into single oxygen, which adds across double bonds in a 2+ 2 cycloaddition to produce the corresponding oxetanes (unstable) that subsequently cleave thermally to produce the carboxylic acids.

Now there's not much UV around at the earth's surface, and hence not much singlet oxygen or ozone (another product of the photolysis of oxygen), but then it doesn't take much to cause this type of degradation. We've all seen rubber and such degrade over time; the process is much the same.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 09:28 PM (oKE6c)

759 You want to have a good time at Whole Foods? Walk through the store on Saturday afternoon wearing a bright red t-shirt with The Flag on it & a NRA hat...

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 09, 2015 09:29 PM (4gN5w)

760 731 how about topping it off with some inert gas?
Posted by: Feh

My advice: after opening a container, minimize the head space, and thereby minimize the exposure to oxygen, whether triplet or singlet, and ozone.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 09:31 PM (oKE6c)

761 How long can you store the olive oil that comes in the large can?

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:12 PM (WNERA)[i/]
Olive Oyle has big shoes, not a large can

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2015 09:31 PM (t//F+)

762 Refrigeration should slow the oxegenation process, but you never see olive oil refrigerated. Do any people at home refrigerate their olive oil?

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 09:31 PM (2o6Wj)

763 Posted by: Bob Belcher at February 09, 2015 09:28 PM (Xrson)

That car chase is one of the best ever, IMO. Bullit's was good too.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 09:31 PM (bAg1C)

764 Funny thing about those Coexist bumper sticker cars, the drivers are, shockingly enough, not that tolerant of others. I backed out of a parking space yesterday with a minivan blocking the view. So, as we a do, crept out until I had eyes on traffic. Saw a car was waiting, so I pulled back in. As I did, this asshole went nuts with his horn.

It's almost as If they want to be tolerated, but not tolerate others. Almost....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 09, 2015 09:31 PM (xrURQ)

765 Go Greece lightning, you're burning up the money trail

(Greece lightning, go Greece lightning)

Go Greece lightning, you're coasting through austerity fail

(Greece lightning, go Greece lightning)

You are supreme, Obama'll cream for Greece'd lightning

(Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go)

Posted by: Travolta pre bloat and hair loss at February 09, 2015 09:32 PM (yRwC8)

766 Clever army computer-writing need more writing that is of the new.

Posted by: Bob's House of Speaking English the Way I Speak French at February 09, 2015 09:32 PM (yxw0r)

767

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2015 09:32 PM (t//F+)

768 Do any people at home refrigerate their olive oil?
Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 09:31 PM (2o6Wj)

It gets milky if you do that.

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 09:32 PM (bAg1C)

769 Oxegenation =oxidation.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 09:33 PM (2o6Wj)

770 Sadly, Whole Foods just oozes smug. That, and the smell of patchouli and body odor.

I watched a young hippie woman reaching up for yogurt one afternoon, and imagine my surprise at the long armpit hair.

Ugh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:33 PM (FsuaD)

771 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:33 PM (FsuaD)

Was it dyed?

Posted by: Secundus at February 09, 2015 09:33 PM (bAg1C)

772 >>> I've never watched Ronin until tonight. Made in 1998. And damn if they
didn't have a super woman who can physically hold their own in this
movie too. Have to admit it was a awesome car chase though and I hate
car chases.

The volcano scene was completely unecessary tho.

Posted by: LizLem at February 09, 2015 09:34 PM (yRwC8)

773 770

I've seen that too on occasion. More often I see leg hair. Some have more hair on their legs than I do.

I think they are female.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:35 PM (WNERA)

774 Hey Bob from Table9, P_G wants to know when you gonna visit for Angels spring training?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 09, 2015 09:35 PM (p6l+P)

775 Pappas Bros?

Posted by: Lauren at February 09, 2015 09:05 PM (MYCIw)

Si!

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 09, 2015 09:35 PM (R8hU8)

776 774

I should just stop everything and drive over. Mostly to meet such a nice person in person.

The Angels play not 10 miles down the freeway from my house during the season.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:36 PM (WNERA)

777 "
I've never watched Ronin until tonight."

Saw it years ago. Remember thinking it was okay.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 09:37 PM (LH3J1)

778 Was it dyed?

No, but it was braided.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 09:37 PM (2o6Wj)

779 Was it dyed?

No. She hadn't gotten the memo.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:38 PM (FsuaD)

780 Jose O'Shea's in Lakewood, CO. Good food for what it is.

Posted by: Infidel at February 09, 2015 09:39 PM (uNP/H)

781 Anna,
got your power ball tickets. Someone wins.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:39 PM (WNERA)

782 I feel sorry for the momma owl. She's just sitting there in the cold, soaking rain, protecting the owlets, and occasionally lets out a lonely call.

Daddy owl is probably out hanging with his buds.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:39 PM (FsuaD)

783 A Greek salad, anyone?

Posted by: Al Williams at February 09, 2015 09:39 PM (Dwehj)

784 I feel sorry for the momma owl. She's just sitting there in the cold, soaking rain, protecting the owlets, and occasionally lets out a lonely call.

That isn't the momma. Momma is out with her SJW gals

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:41 PM (WNERA)

785 Daddy owl is probably out hanging with his buds.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:39 PM (FsuaD)

******

Of course, because thinking that he might be out hunting up food for all is just Cray Cray.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 09, 2015 09:42 PM (o/3Hk)

786 It is the Geek chorus:

"Breaker-kit; Coax, Coax!"

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2015 09:43 PM (t//F+)

787 I love Ronin. It's the last good movie DeNiro did.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 09, 2015 09:43 PM (S9rS1)

788 " Daddy owl is probably out hanging with his buds."

What? Daddy should buid the house and/ watch the kids?

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 09:43 PM (2o6Wj)

789 I had a sleepless night last night, woke up at 1:15 and couldn't go back to sleep. Husband slept right through my tossing and turning.

Going to turn in early.

Have fun on the ONT.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:43 PM (FsuaD)

790 Oh cool Bob, can you spare a few million?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 09, 2015 09:43 PM (p6l+P)

791 Did the second baby hatch yet? Weren't there 2?

Posted by: Infidel at February 09, 2015 09:43 PM (uNP/H)

792 No, that's a good brand -- the label is true. ALWAYS seek out the labels that say "Italian-Grown Olives" and AVOID the labels that only say "Imported from Italy" but don't give specifics about where they're grown.

Posted by: zombie at February 09, 2015 08:55 PM (K4YiS)

Well that's a relief. I just had some bad news about my two favorite hot sauces today (a UNLV says they both exceed standards for lead contamination); I didn't want to have to pitch my olive oil as well.

Many years ago I had a friend in Calistoga, CA who used to harvest and cure his own olives. Most of the time he managed his family vineyards, but did this as a hobby. I still know him to talk to, but don't live anywhere near him and so have no idea if he still does the olive thing.

Posted by: CQD at February 09, 2015 09:44 PM (2dzsA)

793 off

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2015 09:44 PM (t//F+)

794 Anna,

LOL I plan on being generous. Right up until I'm counting the money.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:44 PM (WNERA)

795 stop the italics!

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2015 09:45 PM (t//F+)

796 Of course, because thinking that he might be out hunting up food for all is just Cray Cray.

Actually, mom caught a marsh rat at 3:40 a.m. She leaves the nest to hunt occasionally, but not for too long. Tonight is too cold and rainy.

The second owlet has hatched.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:45 PM (FsuaD)

797 Used to be, threatening Germany would be like stealing the envelopes of money at a mafia wedding. Times sure have changed.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 09, 2015 09:45 PM (S9rS1)

798 which is what Hamilcar Barca said by the way

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2015 09:45 PM (t//F+)

799 Ummm....who turned on the italics?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:46 PM (FsuaD)

800 Beat the embarreling?

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 09:46 PM (2o6Wj)

801 Oh, Jane...

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 09:46 PM (LH3J1)

802 In before The Barrel!

Posted by: toby928(C) says call me Odysseus at February 09, 2015 09:47 PM (rwI+c)

803 801
Oh, Jane...

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 09:46 PM (LH3J1)

Not me. Check out #788.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:47 PM (FsuaD)

804 Actually, mom caught a marsh rat at 3:40 a.m. She leaves the nest to hunt occasionally, but not for too long. Tonight is too cold and rainy.

The second owlet has hatched.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:45 PM (FsuaD)

******
Totes off point from my post, but whatevs.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 09, 2015 09:47 PM (xrURQ)

805 Do not taunt happy-fun barrel.

Posted by: Cato at February 09, 2015 09:47 PM (3HxZe)

806 "Check out #788."

Heh.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 09:48 PM (LH3J1)

807 Second look at just invading Europe and enslaving everyone?

Posted by: Germany at February 09, 2015 09:48 PM (rXB/r)

808 Posted by: Germany at February 09, 2015 09:48 PM (rXB/r)

We conquered y'all straight out of it and didn't keep it. The problem with ruling the world is that all the world's problems are now your problem.

Posted by: USA at February 09, 2015 09:49 PM (3HxZe)

809 Has ACE ever left the children alone this long before?

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:50 PM (WNERA)

810 "Check out 788."

Wha? Me?

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 09:50 PM (2o6Wj)

811 "Wha? Me?"
-Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 09:50 PM (2o6Wj)

Get in mah Bellah!

Posted by: The Barrel at February 09, 2015 09:51 PM (16bOT)

812 Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:50 PM (WNERA)

It's starting to smell in here, and I think the thread needs a diaper change.

Posted by: Cato at February 09, 2015 09:51 PM (3HxZe)

813 The two owlets:

http://tinyurl.com/pkuk8zt

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2015 09:52 PM (FsuaD)

814 This situation with Germany will really come to a head when Greece bans the possession of gerbils in Mykonos.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 09, 2015 09:53 PM (S9rS1)

815 We need to test EMP weapons simultaneously worldwide except for around Texas and Oklahoma when we make them.

That would solve 90 percent of the problems I sometimes spend my precious time thinking about when I should be playing World of Warcraft.

'Cause fuck everything.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at February 09, 2015 09:55 PM (scgac)

816 Bottoms up!

Posted by: Al Williams at February 09, 2015 09:55 PM (Dwehj)

817 As far as Germany and Greece. They will get the money etc. We like to say things that can't last won't but they always last longer than one would think possible.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:56 PM (WNERA)

818 Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 09:56 PM (WNERA)

Reality can only be kept at bay for so long, and the longer you keep the denial up, the worse the consequences when you can't ignore it anymore.

Posted by: Cato at February 09, 2015 09:57 PM (3HxZe)

819 Thanks Jane, they are so cute.

Posted by: Infidel at February 09, 2015 09:57 PM (uNP/H)

820 Ace has blisters on his twitter fingers.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 09:58 PM (2o6Wj)

821 "We need to test EMP weapons simultaneously worldwide except for around Texas and Oklahoma when we make them."

I read a story, wish I had saved it but didn't, about an EMP test on some new cars. Maybe it was a solar event, can't remember. Anyway, most of the cars survived with little or no damage.

The figured all the metal around the electrical parts served as a pseudo Farraday cage and protected the bits.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 09:59 PM (LH3J1)

822 762 Refrigeration should slow the oxegenation process, but you never see olive oil refrigerated.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 09:31 PM (2o6Wj) [

I don't think refrigeration would make much difference, as I suspect the activation energy of the singlet oxygen/carbon-carbon double bond 2+2 cycloaddition reaction is pretty low. But, frankly, I don't remember, so I could be wrong.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 09:59 PM (oKE6c)

823 Ace has blisters on his twitter fingers.
Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 09:58 PM (2o6Wj)

****

Those fingers plus da house here are going to help take down that Lib Icon, BW. More to fcuking follow.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 09, 2015 10:00 PM (xrURQ)

824 I've never watched Ronin until tonight. Made in 1998. And damn if they didn't have a super woman who can physically hold their own in this movie too. Have to admit it was a awesome car chase though and I hate car chases.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at February 09, 2015 09:28 PM

Great, great movie. I envy you. It's one of those movies I'd love to see again for the first time with fresh eyes.

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2015 10:01 PM (tBSrv)

825 Has a missing person's report been filed?

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 10:03 PM (WNERA)

826 Hey, don't forget about me. Ten crowns, and all. Germany it is.

Sincerely,

The King of the North

Posted by: Nikkolai at February 09, 2015 10:03 PM (sy/JA)

827 Damn, we be here almost 4 owah! Time for us to go to some new thread now!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at February 09, 2015 10:04 PM (o/3Hk)

828 Maybe this will trigger the ONT - http://tinyurl.com/qxh9ldx

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 09, 2015 10:04 PM (p6l+P)

829 One of the things I learned when I was in that Band of Brothers was "ask not for whom the bell tools, it tools for thee".

Posted by: Brian Williams at February 09, 2015 10:04 PM (8zCR+)

830 Cyclonic division?

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 09, 2015 10:04 PM (2o6Wj)

831 >>I don't think refrigeration would make much difference, as I suspect the activation energy of the singlet oxygen/carbon-carbon double bond 2+2 cycloaddition reaction is pretty low.

Can I copy your homework?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 10:05 PM (g1DWB)

832 "Great, great movie."

For whatever reason I never see it on TV. All kinds of channels playing all manner of movies but never it that I can recall.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 10:05 PM (LH3J1)

833 That is another way of saying that death was our constant shadow.

Posted by: Brian Williams at February 09, 2015 10:07 PM (8zCR+)

834 There's way too much talk about using olive oil in cooking and whatnot.

The proper moron set of questions revolve around "Ok, so what and how exactly do I ferment and distill that sucker?"

Posted by: Alan at February 09, 2015 10:07 PM (uq4RW)

835 http://www.marklevinshow.com/

go to rewind and wait for overnight thread

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 10:08 PM (WNERA)

836 For whatever reason I never see it on TV. All kinds of channels playing all manner of movies but never it that I can recall.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 09, 2015 10:05 PM

It's on all the time here on cable. I've seen it so many times I just don't bother anymore like with a number of my fave films. If I watch, I'm just gonna end up checking the sets, lighting, camera shots editing and whatnot and not actually follow the story or pay attention to what's being said. I would love to be able to "unsee" certain movies.

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2015 10:09 PM (tBSrv)

837 nood

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2015 10:11 PM (WNERA)

838 No one who has never been in a war-zone can comprehend the sense of peril that hangs over every second, every breath.

Posted by: Brian Williams at February 09, 2015 10:11 PM (8zCR+)

839 ONT is NOOD!

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at February 09, 2015 10:11 PM (16bOT)

840 In the end, long before a potential Grexit, Germany will give in. This crisis shows that the EU is basicly run by Germany, but the countries leadershp cast is obsessed with uniting every european country except Russia under the roof of the Union. Its the softest form of German imperialism ever.

The German politicians in charge are in a "grand coalition", so both main antagonists of the political system would bear responsibility for such a surrender. That means that there is no serious opposition to capitalize on what the German tax payers will probably consider a great betrayel. The anti-euro movement in Germany is pathetically weak.

Posted by: Elize Nayden at February 09, 2015 10:14 PM (fJjfI)

841 "It's on all the time here on cable. "
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Yup, 'good movie that I'm now sick of' category.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 09, 2015 10:21 PM (MbrzC)

842 Can I copy your homework?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2015 10:05 PM (g1DWB)

Sorry, didn't mean to pontificate!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2015 10:24 PM (oKE6c)

843 the Germans were ruthless during WWII. The war is long over, they have signed their treaties, they continue to pay reparations, they have kept their end of the bargain. Perhaps I missed something in history class, but I do not recall that part of the treaty that ended WWII required Germany to work their asses off to fully support the over spending and laziness of other countries because they were ruthless in WWII. Germany doesn't owe Greece anything. Greece is responsible for its own situation. According to Greeks I know here in the US, the Greeks want to sit around in the cafes and drink coffee all day. They don't want to work, and they are lazy. Germany should not feel guilty for not wanting to support this lack of responsibility.

Posted by: Mistress NOpe at February 09, 2015 11:01 PM (2/oBD)

844 Germany should *print* more money to "loan" to Greece. Write "Occupation Currency" on it and add Hitler's face. See if the Greeks would take that. Also, why do they call it "exit" if Greece is about to get run out at gun point?

Posted by: hurricane567 at February 10, 2015 01:04 AM (9u/+C)

845

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2015 03:59 AM (wlDny)

846 Fico scores for political parties would be racist as hell

Posted by: x at February 10, 2015 09:08 AM (uQZPO)

847 Apres le Grexit, les PIIGS deluge! Tout fini pour l'Euro.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 10, 2015 10:08 AM (Y92Nd)

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