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Obama at National Prayer Breakfast: You Know, American Christians Are Really No Better Than IS Terrorists, When You Think About It
Go fuck yourself back to Indonesia.
How do we, as people of faith, reconcile these realities --the profound good, the strength, the tenacity, the compassion and love that can flow from all of our faiths, operating alongside those who seek to hijack religious for their own murderous ends? Humanity has been grappling with these questions throughout human history. And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ.You may think you're not a terrorist, but you are. Obama is, and always has been, a terrorist-sympathizing terror apologist. He believes the same "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" you hear from the extreme left; he just doesn't say it. He does hint it, though. Oh, and intelligence officials are looking into the possibility that the Jewish Supermarket Gunman's widow was recently spotted in a terrorist video called "Blow France Up 2." But let's not get on our high horses about this. We've all used religion to justify murder.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)And this belongs in the thread below, but I just found this gem at Newsbusters. Brian Williams sits on the board of the Congressional Medal of Honor foundation.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2015 02:06 PM (FsuaD)
I hate this bastard more each day.
Posted by: chiefjaybob at February 05, 2015 02:06 PM (t2lvB)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at February 05, 2015 02:06 PM (gSVqr)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at February 05, 2015 02:06 PM (gSVqr)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 05, 2015 02:07 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2015 02:07 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: eman at February 05, 2015 02:07 PM (66/zW)
I am trying not to be incandescent with rage. So far, I'm failing.
Posted by: MDH3 at February 05, 2015 02:07 PM (GKyUC)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 05, 2015 02:07 PM (/pOl7)
Smell any Reichstag smoke yet Ace?
Posted by: maddogg at February 05, 2015 02:07 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 05, 2015 02:07 PM (JxMoP)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2015 02:08 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 05, 2015 02:08 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: chiefjaybob at February 05, 2015 02:08 PM (t2lvB)
Posted by: maddogg at February 05, 2015 02:08 PM (xWW96)
That question in the last thread about how Ace has been quoted by the BBC and do we have to clean up our language now?
Go fuck yourself back to Indonesia.
(I kid. I understand the usage guidance under the Benevolent Ewokship).
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 05, 2015 02:08 PM (JtwS4)
No lefse for him!
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 05, 2015 02:08 PM (+YMhA)
The Inquisition? What does he know about it outside of a Monty Python sketch?
And you know since then there was this whole Enlightenment thing. Pretty sure Islam hasn't gotten there yet. Or the Renaissance. Or a Reformation. Or much of anything.
But yeah, they're all the same. Whatever.
Posted by: brak at February 05, 2015 02:08 PM (Tj+s6)
Posted by: eman at February 05, 2015 02:08 PM (66/zW)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:09 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Squaw Liz Warren at February 05, 2015 02:09 PM (iZADc)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:09 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: LGoPs at February 05, 2015 02:09 PM (OAHNF)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 05, 2015 02:09 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2015 02:09 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at February 05, 2015 02:09 PM (fLKzW)
Posted by: Jukin at February 05, 2015 02:09 PM (WGm5T)
Here's a fun group.
http://tinyurl.com/p6rpopz
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2015 02:09 PM (0FSuD)
He's wrong for drawing equivalency and not comprehending both religions properly. Its true that people have done horrific stuff in the name of Christ in the past. That's historical fact.
The problem with his point is that the people doing so were doing it in violation of Christ's teachings whereas people hacking heads off of folks for Muhammad are doing what he said to in his book.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 05, 2015 02:09 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at February 05, 2015 02:10 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2015 02:10 PM (20Zla)
Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2015 02:10 PM (fWAjv)
Probably a lot more from black Democrats than you might imagine too.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2015 02:10 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Barry at February 05, 2015 02:10 PM (hHFOx)
Posted by: Garrett at February 05, 2015 02:11 PM (sZyyG)
The Politically Incorrect History of the African Slave Trade
http://tinyurl.com/q6gpps8
Posted by: The Political Hat at February 05, 2015 02:11 PM (0Ew3K)
That will scare the poop out of them.
Posted by: Jukin at February 05, 2015 02:11 PM (WGm5T)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 05, 2015 02:11 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: @votermom at February 05, 2015 02:11 PM (1DmCz)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2015 02:10 PM (20Zla)
Also, does this mean the F-bomb moratorium has ended?
Posted by: Country Singer at February 05, 2015 02:11 PM (8hctH)
I tried to talk him outta speaking.
I tried to talk him outta make an ass of himself.
This guy? You can't talk him outta anything.
Posted by: Torquemada at February 05, 2015 02:11 PM (IDj42)
Ehhhhh. I'll need some proof.
Been watching some documentaries about the Tudors. Bloody Mary wasn't burning Protestants for Christ, she was doing it for power.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at February 05, 2015 02:11 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Shit George Carlin Said at February 05, 2015 02:11 PM (GuwT9)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at February 05, 2015 02:11 PM (/8qpd)
Oh, and fvck that guy in particular.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Zombie King Henry II at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (OM9Av)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (x3YFz)
Do the remaining Democrat representatives and senators sit there and break out into a cold sweat everytime Obama opens his mouth? Just think of what he can say with almost two years left on the calendar?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Paranoia Punch with Electrolytes at the Outrage Outlet! at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (hLRSq)
The abolition of slavery and civil rights movement were justified by that same precept. That man had certain God given rights that no other man was able to take away.
Posted by: Tommy V at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (3qBGR)
Posted by: Jesus Christ at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: RobM1981 at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (zurJC)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Mega at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (hHFOx)
Posted by: Barackhenaten I at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (sZyyG)
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (MMC8r)
and fuck him sideways he thinks Spain should have stayed Jihadi Jim...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (/4AZU)
Obama hates Christians and Jews. It's just that simple. His empathy
lies with the muslims, and that is where he directs his attention.
He didn't show much empathy for the poor Muslim pilot burned alive in the cage.
There's something wrong with Barry. And I don't mean his taste in beards. It's like he's lacking any kind of ability to feel anything. At all.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2015 02:12 PM (FsuaD)
Unless you are a mohammedan, a communist or an especially stupid hippie.
Posted by: Gwyneth's steaming hooha at February 05, 2015 02:13 PM (FdTDf)
Posted by: maddogg at February 05, 2015 02:13 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at February 05, 2015 02:06 PM (gSVqr
LOL, outcome based posting. We are all special snowflakes.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:13 PM (vPh3W)
Were there some churches and likely Christians who supported both, and distorted the Bible to try to defend the practices? Yes. But more were opposed, and what's more, the Bible its self is opposed to them - at least as practiced. Jesus was opposed to them both.
When it comes to slavery as a concept, things get more muddy. The Bible does not oppose slavery per se, only as it was practiced in the 18th and 19th centuries.
The concept of someone working for and being owned by someone else is not opposed. That's essentially what happens in prisons today (and the 13th amendment specifically gives an exemption for). Temporary indentured servitude and work while in prison is actually a good idea. Just not the kind of slavery people practiced where they picked slaves based on skin color and kept them forever, without any hope of freedom, and kept their children.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 05, 2015 02:13 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2015 02:13 PM (20Zla)
This is gonna be one u-g-l-y divorce, I can tell you.
Posted by: DocJ at February 05, 2015 02:13 PM (zrsn3)
Posted by: Mendoza at February 05, 2015 02:13 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: MTF at February 05, 2015 02:13 PM (FCsIb)
The Crusades were a response to Muslim aggression.
The Inquisition, far from being the bloody horror that it is portrayed, was in large part fair, and in fact was often more just than secular courts.
The Church has been one of the greatest advocates in the past 2000 years of science and reason, of human rights, and of humane treatment of soldiers and civilians during times of conflict.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 05, 2015 02:13 PM (OiH3z)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 05, 2015 02:14 PM (IDj42)
Seriously the most unintelligent prick ever to hold public office, ever.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 05, 2015 02:14 PM (72D6h)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 05, 2015 02:14 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 05, 2015 02:14 PM (UhRGU)
Why yes, yes it was.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 05, 2015 02:08 PM (0LHZx)
They must not have been Christians, though. The Christians were busy excusing slavery.
Posted by: rickl at February 05, 2015 02:14 PM (zoehZ)
I think he's doing this on purpose to make our heads explode.
He hates us and he's trolling us because he knows how we'll react.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 05, 2015 02:14 PM (JtwS4)
Not so with Islam.
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at February 05, 2015 02:14 PM (MMC8r)
I can no lunger unexplode my head and reexplode it.
This man is the greatest danger to the republic in its history. He needs to be removed from the White House, and his entire administration right behind him.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 05, 2015 02:14 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Yip at February 05, 2015 02:14 PM (84SRe)
Posted by: Barackhenaten I at February 05, 2015 02:15 PM (sZyyG)
Christian doctrine does not explicitly call for the destruction and
oppression of its non-adherents like islam does, Mr President. The
sophistry this guy engages in is stunning.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at February 05, 2015 02:11 PM (/8qpd)
his golf cleats have a higher IQ than he does. As if it hasn't been pointed out ad nauseum: this guy isn't qualified to reliably stare at a rock. He's that fucking stupid. And ignorant. And stupid.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:15 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Paranoia Punch with Electrolytes at the Outrage Outlet! at February 05, 2015 02:15 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 05, 2015 02:15 PM (et+T8)
POETRY, ace. Pure poetry.
If it's not Erdu, it's crap!
Posted by: Barackhenaten I at February 05, 2015 02:15 PM (sZyyG)
Ecru Erdu. Et tu?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 05, 2015 02:15 PM (CMkNk)
Don't bother trying to tell him that the Ottomans tried to conquer Europe and almost succeeded. They don't talk about that at Columbia.
Posted by: Caliban at February 05, 2015 02:15 PM (DrC22)
Posted by: Phinn at February 05, 2015 02:15 PM (DLUnW)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 05, 2015 02:15 PM (39g3+)
It's shit that they think makes them sound like they are deep thinkers but really they are just fucking idiots incapable of seeing different things as different.
They literally see everything as being exactly the same so why are they treated differently?
But they accuse us of being incapable nuance.
Posted by: the real ch3 at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (IG5KL)
Even if the Crusades and the Inquisition were as bad as Mohammedan terror, they occurred nearly 1000 years ago. At some point, they're no longer relevant.
And while some people hid behind Christianity to justify Slavery and Jim Crowe, you'll not find a single word in the Bible that justifies them. Contrast that with Mohammedan books (the Koran and the Haditha) and you'll find *lots* of stuff about killing the infidel and such.
Nevertheless, the Battle Hymn of the Republic (that'd be the War Song of the North) says: "As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free." It was Christians (and Republicans specifically) who ended segregation and started the whole "Civil Rights Movement."
Then there's the whole false equivalency anyway. The Crusades were just wars fought against a vicious aggressor. The Inquisition (thanks for whoever pointed out the links) was actually a reaction by the church against secular rulers killing people willy-nilly. It was designed to *stop* the killing and torture. And it largely succeeded.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (kff5f)
"Surrender Your Way To Success"
"Fifty Shades of White Man's Guilt"
"Old Man And The Sea Killed A Fish and Burns In Hell For It"
"Ululating for Fun and Profit"
"Fucking Myself Back To Indonesia"
Posted by: RobM1981 at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (zurJC)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: wrg500 at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (/eTPT)
I've got a hotline to God. Right here in my head.
God talks to me every day. Every damn day.
He just won't shut up. Talk talk talk talk.
On and on and on about begitting this and begatting that smiting some poor sucker in a field somewhere.
But lately He's been focusing on the News and these ISIS boys.
Says Allah's getting a bit to big for his britches.
Time for some major sinner smiting to occur.
You've been warned.
*the preceding is solely the expression of the author and is no way to be associated with the Smart Military Blog AoSHQ or the denizens (moron(ette)s) who thrive here.*
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (Bn6aD)
I don't know about the rest of you, but I am surrounded by Democrat
Party types all the time. A very significant number of them are tired of
this guy too. You may not hear it, because, well, they're Democrats, so
they aren't necessarily talking to you, but I'm a stealth conservative.
I hear it all the time, and more frequently with each passing day.
Probably a lot more from black Democrats than you might imagine too.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2015 02:10 PM (TOk1P)
Thank you for relating this, Burt. After weeks of days like today, it's only stories like this that give me any glimmer of hope.
Posted by: chiefjaybob at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (t2lvB)
They had slavery and Jim Crow in Indonesia?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (sH832)
I believe he will bumble us into a nuclear war before he leaves office. He will fumble, retreat, and otherwise embolden our enemies. And finally someone will over-reach, Obama will panic and overreact, and then missiles will fly.
I originally felt it would be Iran-Israel-KSA; or Pakistan-India; or US-China. Now I am afraid it may be the US/EU and Russia. Putin is being frisky, the Russian Economy is cratering, and foreign adventures are one way to distract the Russian narod.
But foreign adventures go awry. Just ask the Argentinian Generals about the Malvinas.
Posted by: rd at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (k19Aq)
Posted by: Yip at February 05, 2015 02:14 PM (84SRe)
I like Dennis Prager. Don't always agree with him but he's a good squirrel.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Phinn at February 05, 2015 02:15 PM (DLUnW)
Check your privilege for crying out loud!
Posted by: the real ch3 at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (IG5KL)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (NExTl)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (vPh3W)
Because cows are made of beef.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (mx5oN)
Why yes, yes it was.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 05, 2015 02:08 PM (0LHZx)
Amazing Grace is a FANTASTIC film covering the abolition of slavery in England. And yes, it was the Tories and the religious folks that spearheaded it. Inconvenient truths!
The film also has tons of eye candy, for those that care, hah.
Posted by: LizLem at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Caliban at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (DrC22)
Another very good point. Even during the height of the crusades, there were prominent church leaders, teachers, theologians, and writers condemning the very idea of the "holy war" to liberate the "holy land." They condemned the more awful stuff done by the crusaders.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (39g3+)
"The Christians burned and slaughtered too".
In a whiny 3 year old voice.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (RZzX3)
Let me learn you something, President Fuckface.
People have killed in the names of their religions, and have blasphemed.
Islam's central tents exhort its followers to kill non believers as a sign of faith.
G-d please rid us of the twin pestilence of leftists and Islamists.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: RobM1981 at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (zurJC)
He hates us and he's trolling us because he knows how we'll react.
--
The piece of shit is trolling us because his base is threatening massive riots if anyone tries to stop this trainwreck.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (20Zla)
Even OT EFFYOU SMITE God stopped blaming you for your ancestors transgressions after 4 generations
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (0q2P7)
"There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies, and a person who stirs up conflict in the community."
Posted by: Foul Harold at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (FGvan)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2015 02:10 PM (TOk1P)
And they will still vote democrat in percentages that would be the envy of communist block votes
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (R8hU8)
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Yes, but not quite. Watch any video of him rabble rousing a bunch of union guys. Watch the corners of his mouth get tight and his right fist start pounding and his teeth grit together. Then you start to see what he "feels", and what stirs his passions.
Posted by: Mega at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (hHFOx)
Posted by: @votermom at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (UEeJV)
Posted by: DaveA at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 05, 2015 02:14 PM (CMkNk)
We may have to napalm the whole area and rebuild after the ashes are cold. At this rate, the crazy may have even infected the walls and foundations.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at February 05, 2015 02:07 PM (/pOl7)
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They're hoping they'll push us into firing the first shot.
Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (/HX7u)
He just likes to stir shit up. Constantly.
And damn, he's good at it.
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (TPjwz)
Posted by: Your High Horse at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (IDj42)
Posted by: Carol at February 05, 2015 02:18 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Draki at February 05, 2015 02:18 PM (0eidE)
I said it in another thread but bears repeating.
Obama is more interested in protecting Islams "Brand" than he is in protecting American Citizens.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 05, 2015 02:18 PM (NaV4z)
Yes, Obama (as leftists I argue with all of the time) goes back hundreds of years to make a moral equivalence argument vis a vis Christianity and islam.
Of course, you'll note that he puts the "violence" associated with Christianity and the Crusades directly on Christians, when in fact the Crusades were a response to theislamic invasion of Europe. Hate Christians much, obammy?
Posted by: Uncle Jefe at February 05, 2015 02:18 PM (25KoS)
1. Burn people alive.
2. Cut of little girls' clits.
3. Bury little boys alive.
4. Rape boy and girls and men and women.
5. Crucify adults.
6. Crucify children.
7. Throw gays off roofs.
8. Stone to death any gay who is thrown off the roof and survives.
9. Throw acid in the faces of women dressed "immodestly".
10. Shoot in the head any girl who dares to go to school.
11. Stone to death women who are raped.
12. Kill all the Christians in a town and then burn that town to the ground.
13. Strap bombs to children and the mentally disabled and then send them off as "suicide" bombers.
14. Slaughter Jews.
Yeah, I'm perfectly fine with thinking I'm better that those people.
Posted by: alexthechick - C'mon Yellowstone at February 05, 2015 02:18 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 05, 2015 02:18 PM (V70Uh)
And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place,
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ummm, those are other TIMES asshat.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at February 05, 2015 02:18 PM (/eTPT)
Posted by: Garrett at February 05, 2015 02:18 PM (sZyyG)
Posted by: TehAdmiral at February 05, 2015 02:18 PM (GtYTw)
The Real History of the Crusades. http://tinyurl.com/lxqhwrr
The Truth About The Spanish Inquisition. http://tinyurl.com/o4xxum6
Posted by: Buzzion at February 05, 2015 02:18 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Draki at February 05, 2015 02:18 PM (0eidE)
Posted by: Michael Moore and Seth Rogan at February 05, 2015 02:18 PM (yRwC8)
This guy has checked out.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2015 02:19 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 05, 2015 02:19 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: HR needs donuts
Bingo.
A lot of the recruitment was done under the name of religion...how else do you motivate a 12th Century farmer? But the purpose was Power and Economics.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 05, 2015 02:19 PM (08Znv)
Posted by: Joe F. at February 05, 2015 02:19 PM (/wpVt)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 05, 2015 02:19 PM (HSmrB)
Posted by: Lea - Sorry make that Miss Leaette at February 05, 2015 02:19 PM (vmMMi)
WTF is he up to?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2015 02:19 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 05, 2015 02:19 PM (NExTl)
In the case of the MUSLIM brotherhood ad maj hasan, squirrel.
In the case of the youtubeterrorists, supposedly they were righteously outraged mohammadans. Except that they weren't, never were, and he knew that.
Every thing is designed to not act, to cover his ass.
This is nothing different from a person being run over by a garbage truck in Chicago, or what every public school system does. Lie, stall, shift blame, mouth platitudes, repeat mission statements and continue to get paid.
Posted by: AoSHQ Membership committee (keeping out the rifraff division) at February 05, 2015 02:19 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: TFG at February 05, 2015 02:19 PM (GuwT9)
Caliph DogEater Obama
Posted by: @votermom at February 05, 2015 02:19 PM (ngQEz)
2) The Spanish Inquisition and Crusades were centuries ago. ISIS, Boko Haram, al Shabbab, al Qaeda, the Taliban - these all exist RIGHT NOW. Today. In the present. They are not a historical footnote.
3) The f*cking Crusades were launched in response to the genocidal encroachment of Muslims into Christendom. A bunch of Europeans didn't wake up one morning and go, "Gee, you know what I want to do? I want to butcher some Muslims. Let's go!" They'd been getting slaughtered for centuries already by those very Muslims, and they were f*cking sick of it.
4) You want to talk about slavery, you preening asshat? How about all the Africans who were more than happy to sell their fellow Africans into slavery? Or who still practice slavery today? How about the fact that ISIS and other Islamic groups actively engage in the slave trade RIGHT NOW, especially with regards to the sexual enslavement of women and children? Got any comments on that, you illiterate peabrain?
5) Continuing in that vein, you remember #BringBackOurGirls? The self-absorbed Twitter hashtag diplomacy campaign championed by your beast of a wife? Remember that, Hoss? You remember why that f*cking hashtag was created? Because a bunch of girls were kidnapped from a Nigerian village. You know who kidnapped them? MUSLIMS. You know why? TO ENSLAVE THEM, YOU SON-OF-A-BITCH.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 05, 2015 02:19 PM (4df7R)
Party types all the time. A very significant number of them are tired of
this guy too. You may not hear it, because, well, they're Democrats, so
they aren't necessarily talking to you, but I'm a stealth conservative.
I hear it all the time, and more frequently with each passing day.
Probably a lot more from black Democrats than you might imagine too.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2015 02:10 PM (TOk1P)
Thank you for relating this, Burt. After weeks of days like today, it's only stories like this that give me any glimmer of hope.
Posted by: chiefjaybob at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (t2lvB)
the around the water cooler chat was ongoing during the obamacare debate. Our VP, an avowed dem (and a retured colonel) used to mix it up with us.
Later, after the obvious to us became obvious to him he came up to me when no one was around (which, in and of itself is noteable) and said: "T, you were right."
mmmm hmmm.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (x3YFz)
"Let my people go".
Posted by: rickb223 at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (et+T8)
Affirmative Action has consequences.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (V70Uh)
What exactly can we do about it?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Draki at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (0eidE)
this guy too.
Yeah but if he ran again, they'd close ranks and vote for him, refusing to hear a single complaint. Most voters are like that, they will whine and moan and complain about their guys but when it comes down to our guy vs their guy, they pull the lever for the one they were complaining about minutes before. And if one of "them" complains about him, well its all out war to defend the guy.
Its like family, you can complain about your folks, but nobody else can.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (39g3+)
15. let girls burn alive in a building rather than let them escape because they weren't covered up.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (sH832)
This tired, lazy, intellectually pathetic relativism has been de rigueur for too long. AliBama thinks he invented it.
And, he's punking the rest of his, one of his favorite adolescent pastimes.
Posted by: nick at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (EMQZg)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (XGabL)
That's a Corgie, not a horse.
Posted by: Garrett at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (sZyyG)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) and his daughter at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (HDwDg)
It's like I always say - I don't care WHY you murder. I care THAT you murder.
Posted by: major major major major at February 05, 2015 02:21 PM (nM3da)
Inquisition killed less than 1 person per month. About 3k total. In 350 years.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 05, 2015 02:21 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Lea - Sorry make that Miss Leaette at February 05, 2015 02:21 PM (vmMMi)
Posted by: brak at February 05, 2015 02:21 PM (Tj+s6)
So... Mr President, lemme see if I have this straight.
Muslim terrorists sawing off heads and burning people alive yesterday arent *really* Muslim.
Christians, on the other hand, *are* responsible for persecuting Muslims in the middle ages AND for slavery and Jim Crow.
Got it.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 05, 2015 02:21 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Caliban at February 05, 2015 02:21 PM (DrC22)
Posted by: Joe F. at February 05, 2015 02:19 PM (/wpVt)
That purple-lipped jackanapes shouldst fornicate with himself posthaste!
Posted by: William Wilberforce at February 05, 2015 02:21 PM (mx5oN)
Seriously, how have we been losing to these people?
Posted by: blaster at February 05, 2015 02:21 PM (Rx8ML)
If you think his entire party doesn't agree with him whole cloth, then I pity you because when it hits you, it's going to hurt. Your countdown, while sweet and sentimental in its own way, is counting down only to the next load of sh*t they're gonna throw at us. And if they can make it a worse one, they will.
Posted by: Mega at February 05, 2015 02:21 PM (hHFOx)
The idea that any of us should check our Christian and American privilege before judging ISIS because of the Crusades or slavery is outrageous. Especially his false description of these things....No.
Not just no, Hell No.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (ABcz/)
Posted by: chiefjaybob at February 05, 2015 02:16 PM (t2lvB)
You're welcome, but let's not kid ourselves. Still not anywhere close to as many as it should be. Whenever we hear this kind of garbage from the Scoamf, it gets harder to understand how he still has any support at all. And yet he does.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: blaster at February 05, 2015 02:21 PM (Rx8ML)
By not appealing to the base
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (R8hU8)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien From Brattleboro, VT at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (Sd++4)
Posted by: DocJ at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (zrsn3)
Posted by: Lea - Sorry make that Miss Leaette at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (vmMMi)
Posted by: Feh at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (g/zj9)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (Bn6aD)
A lot of the recruitment was done under the name of religion...how else do you motivate a 12th Century farmer? But the purpose was Power and Economics.
True, but I don't think you can take that too far. You don't want to fall into the "no true Scotsman" fallacy; some people really did think it was righteous and the work of Christ. Nobody has 100% pure single motives, we always have mixed reasons for what we do.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (20Zla)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (sH832)
How about killing 160 in a school?
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (0FSuD)
And The Middle Class !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (OCcU9)
"Ever since the day Martin Luther King Jr. showed his followers how to drive a spike through a baseball bat, Civil Rights Movement in the United States have been ...."
His response "But that never happened."
Mine: "So?"
Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 05, 2015 02:22 PM (IDj42)
Posted by: redbanzai at February 05, 2015 02:23 PM (OrI3J)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 05, 2015 02:23 PM (NExTl)
@20.
But, just for you (and because I think this time it needs to be spelled out)
Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a malignant traitor.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:23 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Draki at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (0eidE)
But they don't live in caves, and not with sheep. They live in stolen buildings and get to rape actual WOMEN. Or girls. Or boys, if that's their preference. And they get to kill anyone who doesn't agree with them.
You'd be surprised how many psychopaths find that appealing.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 05, 2015 02:23 PM (4df7R)
Asshole.
And yet wasn't booed off the stage or had bacon and sausages thrown at him.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 05, 2015 02:23 PM (sH832)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at February 05, 2015 02:10 PM (ZKzrr)<
I'm with you. You bring the jello salad and RPG's and I'll bring the hot dish and AK's.
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 05, 2015 02:23 PM (sjdRT)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 05, 2015 02:23 PM (et+T8)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (W5DcG)
point and laugh?
and here's why: libs think that all these shitty ideas and misbegotten causes are oh so noble, but when it comes time to pay the bills, no one gives a shit about D or R.
They're emfuckening themselves right along with us, they just don't know it yet.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:23 PM (x3YFz)
They belong in Stone Age.
Crusades were over 1,000 years ago & he's still talking about it?
What's next from him, in addition to secret dealings with Iran?
Posted by: Carol at February 05, 2015 02:23 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 05, 2015 02:23 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Brian Williams at February 05, 2015 02:24 PM (MC23X)
Love to know which religion he is referring to.
I mean, I know, but just want him to admit it.
Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2015 02:24 PM (fWAjv)
I need a cigarette...
Posted by: Insomniac at February 05, 2015 02:24 PM (mx5oN)
Party types all the time. A very significant number of them are tired of
this guy too. You may not hear it, because, well, they're Democrats, so
they aren't necessarily talking to you, but I'm a stealth conservative.
I hear it all the time, and more frequently with each passing day.
Probably a lot more from black Democrats than you might imagine too.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2015 02:10 PM (TOk1P)
A little subtle helpful information for our Democrat friends might be a good non-partisan way to turn them from Democrat. Commiserate on the unemployment or job opportunities missed because of Obama's policies. Remind them that you are hurting too. How much less is their house value? How much more is Hamburger?
Healthcare costs are out of control. Why do we need paid sex-changes in our medical care? Why can't I use my favorite doctor? Can I find a specialist in this new crappy insurance?
Help them find the light.
Posted by: rd at February 05, 2015 02:24 PM (k19Aq)
Posted by: Draki at February 05, 2015 02:24 PM (0eidE)
----
Damn.... Cosa Nostra aint what it used to be.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 05, 2015 02:24 PM (NaV4z)
Remember this guy when he bloviates ALWAYS gives a false narrative and a false choice. Face it, he's just a big Falsie.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 05, 2015 02:23 PM (NExTl)<
This! Fields and fields of straw men......
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 05, 2015 02:24 PM (sjdRT)
Posted by: steevy at February 05, 2015 02:24 PM (v5UtH)
Posted by: barack obama as Augustus at February 05, 2015 02:24 PM (5DdVJ)
Posted by: Brian Williams at February 05, 2015 02:24 PM (sH832)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 05, 2015 02:24 PM (XGabL)
Posted by: Joe F. at February 05, 2015 02:24 PM (/wpVt)
Posted by: wrg500 at February 05, 2015 02:25 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: Draki at February 05, 2015 02:25 PM (0eidE)
but Isis is something else altogether, an
org.com
nothing to do with with Islam which makes the most beautiful sound on earth.
but if we're gonna compare religions , let's compare Islam to Christianity ..
Crusades!
tfg is crazy.
Posted by: comrade willow at February 05, 2015 02:25 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2015 02:25 PM (DXzRD)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 05, 2015 02:25 PM (Bn6aD)
Spread by Arab Slave Traders to the Ivory and Gold coasts of Africa.
Kings of the tribes would war on their neighbors so as to provide the slavers with product. Sometimes the sold their own people.
Slavery has existed in some form in most cultures.
Only the West has abolished it. And it was mostly the Christian English speaking members that exerted the most effort.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 05, 2015 02:25 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: SCOAMF at February 05, 2015 02:25 PM (f8y+G)
Posted by: steevy at February 05, 2015 02:26 PM (v5UtH)
This Obama fellow is a real piece of work.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2015 02:26 PM (FsuaD)
ISIS has executed some imams. Rush is talking about it now. I'm not sure if this is new news.
Posted by: Carol at February 05, 2015 02:26 PM (sj3Ax)
The Inquistion, here we go
We know you're wishing
That we'd go away
But the Inquistion's here and it's here to stay
The Inquistion, oh boy
The Inquistion, what a joy
The Inquistion, oy oy
Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2015 02:26 PM (fWAjv)
Time for some reparations, bitches.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2015 02:26 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Brian Williams at February 05, 2015 02:26 PM (hHFOx)
or organized.com
by whom?
Posted by: comrade willow at February 05, 2015 02:27 PM (nqBYe)
Inquisition executed about 3k in 350 years.
America has executed 1, 400 since 1976 alone.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 05, 2015 02:27 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Draki at February 05, 2015 02:27 PM (0eidE)
Posted by: Randy Westerfeld at February 05, 2015 02:27 PM (rJRsj)
Yes, but only so they can pin 9/11 on Boooooosh...
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 05, 2015 02:27 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: wrg500 at February 05, 2015 02:25 PM (S+el1)
That's because Abdullah has balls, and Barry is a limp-wristed, mom jeans wearing, girls bike riding, gelded little pussy who tests negative for testosterone.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 05, 2015 02:27 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Michael Moore and Seth Rogan at February 05, 2015 02:27 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 05, 2015 02:27 PM (DMJw2)
Heard some "middle east expert" on the news say that Jordan should not attack ISIS because that's exactly what ISIS wants.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 05, 2015 02:27 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at February 05, 2015 02:27 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 05, 2015 02:27 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Mega
This. They love him for this. They hate Christianity, and blame bush and everyone else for their failures. he was again speaking to them. That and it's a cute way of telling the peasats to Foff.
These are the people who supposedly hate rape, but adore the clintons, and who think that dems brought about changes i US Civil rights, and rethuglickkkkkkkkkkkans magically traded places.
That nazis are NOT socialists. It's a sick world view
Posted by: AoSHQ Membership committee (keeping out the rifraff division) at February 05, 2015 02:28 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: John McCain at February 05, 2015 02:28 PM (kFxpe)
Posted by: steevy at February 05, 2015 02:28 PM (v5UtH)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 05, 2015 02:23 PM (4df7R)
That is a very dangerous assumption, and one that buttresses the "It's Not Islam!" bullshit that we are hearing from the elites.
Very few of these people are psychotic. They have been brought up with a belief system that has convinced them that non-true believers are unworthy of life and may be killed. That women are on earth to please men, and their subjugation is noble.
These people behave rationally.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2015 02:28 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Nora - not in an Eddie Haskell way at February 05, 2015 02:28 PM (pF/GW)
vote for him, refusing to hear a single complaint. Most voters are like
that, they will whine and moan and complain about their guys but when
it comes down to our guy vs their guy, they pull the lever for the one
they were complaining about minutes before. And if one of "them"
complains about him, well its all out war to defend the guy.
Its like family, you can complain about your folks, but nobody else can.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 05, 2015 02:20 PM (39g3+)
Sure, but how many of us were saying the same thing about McCain in '08, Romney in '12, and countless other nitwits the R's nominated over the years? People belong to their clubs, and Democrats are significantly worse than Republicans in their loyalty to the club, regardless of how bad their guy is.
Still, it's worth noting, Obama CANNOT run again, so if more people are feeling free to abandon him, it may not bode well for future elections, but it should at least be some small comfort that not everybody who pulled the lever for the guy is a card carrying leftist anti-American, as he is.
Maybe that helps to think of it this way, maybe it doesn't.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2015 02:28 PM (TOk1P)
Merkin, yeah the Inquisition was bad. Very bad. But again you Merkin omit threads that make the cloth of history whole. What do I mean ol Murky? Well about the Islamic invaders that came across the Straits of Gibraltar and washed ashore like a green tide of death in Iberia. Jews and Christians were persecuted and killed by them. When they were not being killed, burned, or raped; they had to pay protection money to their Islamic overlords to avoid being killed, burned, or raped - until a new overlord showed up; then rinse and repeat.
Am I clear Merky? Or do I need to use words of merely one syllable?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 05, 2015 02:28 PM (NExTl)
muslim.
Duh. I mean really... if it walks like a duck, etc.
And so he is but he's also ashamed to admit it. Dude doesn't go to church (liberation theology isn't a religion it's a KGB construct that was incredibly effective in central and south america, but that's a whole other post) he's not a christian.
There's this little bit in revelations where Christ says "you are neither hot nor cold but lukewarm and therefore I spit you out."
and that's him. He doesn't even have the balls to pick a side.
He's a coward.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:29 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr
Yeah, about that. We've seen what the inaction of the Iraqi army resulted in. Screw that.
Posted by: The kurds at February 05, 2015 02:29 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2015 02:29 PM (DXzRD)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:29 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Caliban at February 05, 2015 02:29 PM (DrC22)
Barry needs to lay off of the 5.5% beer.
Posted by: Fritz at February 05, 2015 02:29 PM (dVmLD)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 05, 2015 02:27 PM (W5DcG)
Well, I pray that Jordan is generous in giving them what they want.
Posted by: RWC at February 05, 2015 02:29 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Joe F. at February 05, 2015 02:24 PM (/wpVt)
I know people, ostensibly educated and intelligent people, who think that slavery only ever existed in America.
Any attempts to point out otherwise are met with a combination of "You're lying" and "But that's not really the same."
Pointing out that there are more people in slavery now than at any other time is history will get you called a lying liar who only listens to Faux News.
Posted by: alexthechick - C'mon Yellowstone at February 05, 2015 02:29 PM (mf5HN)
Although I wish ill on none for political beliefs, well almost, IF we are hit big again, I hope it is soon and I hope the target and victims are the media and left at some confab. Something needs to wake them up.
The next 2 years are going to be, as the Chinese curse goes, interesting times. Lord help this once great nation through it and beyond.
Posted by: John Doe@AnotherQuidam at February 05, 2015 02:30 PM (g1MTt)
Posted by: Brian at February 05, 2015 02:30 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:29 PM (kff5f)
Before the cock crowed.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 05, 2015 02:30 PM (W5DcG)
We are all descendants of slaves, just a question of how far back you go.
Slavery is named after the Slavs, who were taken as slaves so often that Slav became the word for a slave.
It'd be like we started enslaving Canadians and 500 years later people talk about how they were born into Candianry. My pappy was a Canadian, but I ain't no man's property, I'm a Free Canadian!!
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 05, 2015 02:30 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Diogenes at February 05, 2015 02:30 PM (08Znv)
I'm curious if such haram things were even served.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at February 05, 2015 02:31 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: They Might Be Giants at February 05, 2015 02:31 PM (NF2Bf)
this guy too"
They'd vote for him again in overwhelming numbers if they had the chance. Not because they agree with his foreign policy. Not because they support the nanny state. Not that they like confiscatory taxation.
It's because when you get to the root of it, they HATE Christians who actually believe all that "hocus pocus" - and those people are affiliated with Republicans. Making sure Jerry Farwell can't somehow magically keep them from rimming an anchorman's daughter on video is their prime motivator.
Posted by: Jaws at February 05, 2015 02:31 PM (WKNX4)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 05, 2015 02:31 PM (MC23X)
He'll at least nut up and tell you he's a marxist.
He's an asshole but at least he drew a line and defended it. More than I can say for Obama.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:31 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 05, 2015 02:31 PM (NExTl)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 05, 2015 02:32 PM (/BTP8)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 05, 2015 02:32 PM (et+T8)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2015 02:28 PM (Zu3d9)
Exactly. They view the world differently than we do- but not from delusion. They view it differently by training. "Unpeople" might be a good description of how Mohammedanism views women, children, and any non Mohammedan. You're not "murdering" an Infidel any more than you can "murder" a cow.
Based on the way they have been trained to view the world, they are very sane.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:32 PM (kff5f)
You should give him a hug, he loves that.
Posted by: Garrett at February 05, 2015 02:32 PM (sZyyG)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 05, 2015 02:32 PM (IXrOn)
Either his understanding of history is so thin that he understands nothing of Rome, Byzantium, Turkish vs Arab Muslim squabbling, Roman Catholic vs Orthodox squabbling and the Fourth Crusade, etc. and thinks of the whole thing in the politically-correct-fifth-grade textbook terms used in his 'studies in comparative history' class at Columbia.
Or he is so paralyzed by the depth of the conflict, his need to understand and balance the emotions and interests of every party real or imagined, that he's incapable of judgment.
In either case he's unqualified to be President.
Posted by: JEM at February 05, 2015 02:32 PM (o+SC1)
*Raises hand*
Posted by: They Might Be Giants at February 05, 2015 02:31 PM (NF2Bf)
That's nobody's business but ours.
Posted by: The Turks at February 05, 2015 02:32 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 05, 2015 02:32 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: fixerupper at February 05, 2015 02:32 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: OK, thanks, bye at February 05, 2015 02:33 PM (ucB75)
And remember how the lovely left was enraptured with the ridiculous story about how Christianity was founded on rape?
They WANT to believe this shit.
Posted by: Blue Hen at February 05, 2015 02:33 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Null at February 05, 2015 02:33 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: TJ at February 05, 2015 02:33 PM (UidV/)
Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at February 05, 2015 02:33 PM (kFxpe)
Fixed.
Posted by: president o'bumbles at February 05, 2015 02:33 PM (2KB+E)
Posted by: Joe F. at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (/wpVt)
Posted by: Trimegistus at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (znhCL)
Posted by: alexthechick - C'mon Yellowstone at February 05, 2015 02:29 PM (mf5HN)
It's awesome when people trot that out....I get to say my favorite phrase:
"You can't possibly be that stupid!"
However, we did it on a larger scale than anyone else. And we were probably better at it than anyone else, and we probably treated our slaves better than anyone else.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (NExTl)
Any attempts to point out otherwise are met with a combination of "You're lying" and "But that's not really the same."
Pull out your step stool. Climb up.
Quote:
"Let my people go".
Unquote.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (et+T8)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Draki at February 05, 2015 02:25 PM (0eidE)
you caught that one too?
yeah. the fun part is that got past not just his ignorant ass but everyone he hired to vett his speeches.
Wall-to-wall stupid.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (x3YFz)
for "I have no idea if this happened once or ten million times, but no
one can prove it never happened and I need the implication of epidemic
proportions so...."
It's a temporal "some say."
Posted by: HR needs donuts at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Zombie Tim Horton at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (sZyyG)
Guys, we ain't gonna last two more fcuking years at this rate...
Posted by: OK, thanks, bye at February 05, 2015 02:33 PM (ucB75)
BUY AMMO
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: steevy at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (v5UtH)
Posted by: Carol at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (sj3Ax)
It's because when you get to the root of it, they HATE Christians who actually believe......
--
This is far more true than many believe. Keep watching if you're not convinced yet.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (20Zla)
Posted by: Joe F. at February 05, 2015 02:35 PM (/wpVt)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:32 PM (kff5f)
Irrational first principles is still a type of irrationality.
Sure their logic may be internally consistent, flawless even.
But it's presuppositions are still bugfuck crazy.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) and his daughter at February 05, 2015 02:35 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 05, 2015 02:35 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Charles The Hammer Martel at February 05, 2015 02:35 PM (NaV4z)
At worst, you have ISIS torching other Muslims alive for not being jihadi enough.
Posted by: The Comparative Hat at February 05, 2015 02:35 PM (0Ew3K)
It was shapeshipfng jooos, duh...the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems. Another example of an evil religion Obama needs to denigrade!
Posted by: LizLem at February 05, 2015 02:35 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Emperor Clusterfuck I at February 05, 2015 02:35 PM (S0A/C)
POETRY, ace. Pure poetry."
Seconded! It's gold. It's Mamet-worthy.
"Go jam Jakarta, jackass."
"Stuff satay, shithead."
I can't write 'em like Ace on a roll.
Posted by: gp at February 05, 2015 02:36 PM (mk9aG)
______________________
Yep. In fact, Jesus Christ, the Founder of Christianity, repeatedly and explicitly disavowed violence of any kind. "Turn the other cheek," "love they neighbor as thyself," "forgive 7 x 70," etc. Jesus never once harmed, let alone killed, any other person. He even rebuked His disciple Peter, when Peter drew his sword and tried to protect Jesus from an unjust arrest.
In contrast, Muhammad lived a life of violence and killed more than once. Unlike Jesus Christ, Muhammad did not disavow violence in all its forms; in fact, the Quran (which contains Muhammad's teachings) repeatedly, in more than 100 different verses, instructs Muslims that it is their duty to maim, subjugate, and slaughter non-believers. The Quran also warns non-compliant Muslims that their failure to take up the sword will cause them to receive fewer rewards in heaven.
The huge flaw in Obama's false moral equivalency is this:
Christians engaging in acts of violence are acting in DEFIANCE of their professed religious beliefs and the example set by Jesus Christ's life; Muslims engaging in acts of violence are acting in COMPLIANCE with their professed religious beliefs and the example set by Muhammad's life.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 05, 2015 02:36 PM (Fnyc2)
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:36 PM (x3YFz)
Very few of these people are psychotic. They
have been brought up with a belief system that has convinced them that
non-true believers are unworthy of life and may be killed. That women
are on earth to please men, and their subjugation is noble.
These people behave rationally.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2015 02:28 PM (Zu3d9)
There's no reason a psychopathic, anti-social personality type can't be drawn to a particular religious ideology. Why do you think so many prisoners convert to Islam? It gives them permission to do what they like to do: rape, pillage, murder. It tells them that shit's RIGHT.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 05, 2015 02:36 PM (4df7R)
At worst, you have ISIS torching other Muslims alive for not being jihadi enough.
Posted by: The Comparative Hat at February 05, 2015 02:35 PM (0Ew3K
You say that as if this was a huge difference. Geez Hat lighten up.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:37 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 05, 2015 02:37 PM (NExTl)
Granted.
But people keep calling them "psychopaths" as though we can never understand them. That is incorrect. They are quite sane. They are very rational.
Their sanity and rationality are just based on an evil world view, worthy of Ba'al.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:37 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 05, 2015 02:37 PM (Bn6aD)
Or maybe to put it different:
The problem is with Islam's anthropology.
Or still different:
There's a fundamental unfixable problem with Islam and it's metaphysics.
Or still different:
Islam be all crazy.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) and his daughter at February 05, 2015 02:37 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: nick at February 05, 2015 02:37 PM (EMQZg)
Also, Barry GFY.
Posted by: Memories at February 05, 2015 02:37 PM (mwcEF)
Posted by: andycanuck at February 05, 2015 02:38 PM (2KB+E)
Posted by: Garrett at February 05, 2015 02:38 PM (sZyyG)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 05, 2015 02:37 PM (NExTl)
And for God's sake, do NOT set her up for a slimming seaweed wrap at the spa!
Posted by: Insomniac at February 05, 2015 02:38 PM (mx5oN)
"There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies, and a person who stirs up conflict in the community."
Posted by: Foul Harold at February 05, 2015 02:17 PM (FGvan)
That sure sounds like someone I know. Can't put my finger on it, though.
Posted by: rickl at February 05, 2015 02:38 PM (zoehZ)
Posted by: JEM at February 05, 2015 02:38 PM (o+SC1)
Actually, I think that they were taken slaves so often that they were called Slavs since they so often were.
The noun Slave came before the tribe named Slavs.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 05, 2015 02:38 PM (RZzX3)
So if I understand correctly Hanson believes Obama's actions are consistent with a man who hates whites and the United States, and who wants to cut the U.S. down in power, wealth and impact.
How is it possible a man who hates the United States, twice gets elected president of the United States? I know that's been asked many times on this blog.
I understand how the head of the U.N. would believe in reducing American power and wealth and creating a more equal world, but I don't understand how the president of the United States can possibly believe.
This is likely a shallow analogy, but I get that some people might think Walmart is too dominant in the marketplace, but no CEO of Walmart is going to deliberately destroy Walmart's market share.
Nothing about Obama makes sense.
Posted by: Northernlurker aka Easybake at February 05, 2015 02:38 PM (XohZJ)
And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Communist era and the Gulags, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Social Justice. In our home country, bombings and eugenics all too often was justified in the name of Social Justice.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2015 02:38 PM (L2xDv)
in DEFIANCE of their professed religious beliefs and the example set by
Jesus Christ's life; Muslims engaging in acts of violence are acting in
COMPLIANCE with their professed religious beliefs and the example set
by Muhammad's life.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 05, 2015 02:36 PM (Fnyc2)
Well put. David was loved by good but... well, I look forward to meeting him. That has to be a tough one.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:38 PM (x3YFz)
In a parallel universe BO would being saying, hey that happened about 1000 years ago and I wasn't even alive yet.
Posted by: booter at February 05, 2015 02:38 PM (XZCy1)
And ISIS is very PR conscious about what they're doing - just look at the production of that immolation. And they're on twitter pwning Obama and Michelle, selling merchandise, etc.
They have big ambitions, and they will continue to escalate the violence until other countries start fighting back. Seriously, how many Americans do they have to torture and behead before we decide enough is enough?
Posted by: Lizzy at February 05, 2015 02:39 PM (ABcz/)
Perhaps.
Although there's an equally valid argument that if you can't figure out that your presuppositions are clearly broken (because they lead to unending stife and war) then you be crazy.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) and his daughter at February 05, 2015 02:39 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Joe F. at February 05, 2015 02:39 PM (/wpVt)
Posted by: Northernlurker aka Easybake at February 05, 2015 02:39 PM (XohZJ)
>>>However, we did it on a larger scale than anyone else.
In the days before Steam, slavery got shit done
Posted by: Tour Guide at the Pyramids at February 05, 2015 02:39 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) and his daughter at February 05, 2015 02:35 PM (HDwDg)
No, they aren't.
Women are second class and exist to serve men. That's anathema to Western thought, but there is nothing irrational about it.
Non-believers have no rights and may be killed. Nothing irrational about that. Their religion is supreme, and all who do not accept it are forfeit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2015 02:40 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 05, 2015 02:40 PM (NExTl)
Eh. Slaves were 12% of the total population as of the 1860 census. Slaves were 35% to 40% of the population of Rome in the 1st century BC, but only about 15% of the population of the whole Empire.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at February 05, 2015 02:40 PM (ZKzrr)
"There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
WAIT!
So if they are guilty as sin, it's totes cool?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 05, 2015 02:40 PM (tvSum)
But *some of them* being psychopaths is very different from "these people are psychopaths."
And I don't even think that the ones who convert because it makes them feel better about their evil deeds are necessarily "psychopaths." All humans have a deep-seeded desire to see themselves as "good." So if the choice is between admitting I'm not good, or choosing a philosophy that says all those things I did actually are good, I'm going to be strongly tempted to choose the philosophy.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:40 PM (kff5f)
A lot of the recruitment was done under the name of religion...how else do you motivate a 12th Century farmer? But the purpose was Power and Economics.
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disagree, with respect
Posted by: Pope Urban II at February 05, 2015 02:40 PM (/eTPT)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2015 02:34 PM (Zu3d9)
Check out the link by Political Hat. The muzzies were/are far worse.
Posted by: Ed Anger at February 05, 2015 02:40 PM (RcpcZ)
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making every slave in Rome wear something to make them stand out. Luckily other Senators stopped the idea because the slaves actually outnumbered the citizens by almost 2 to 1.
These two statements seem at odds.
Did the USA have more slaves than Rome?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
I don't believe he's a Muslim, seriously I don't.
I think he is a cold blooded atheistic reprobate. I believe that if he did believe in a God it would be the Muslim god and not any other faith's deity.
The bloodshed in the ME doesn't affect him directly and therefore is not a concern to him. He conducts drone strikes because he has to put up a pretense that HE IS DOING SOMETHING. Yet, we all know that he is bored and rather be out on the golf course.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) and his daughter at February 05, 2015 02:39 PM (HDwDg)
That is the goal.
You are a Western thinker. Stop it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Joe F. at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (/wpVt)
And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Communist era and the Gulags, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Social Justice. In our home country, bombings and eugenics all too often was justified in the name of Social Justice.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2015 02:38 PM (L2xDv)
Good point. I doubt he will ever say Chairman Mao murdered 50 million Chinese in the name of equality.
Posted by: Northernlurker aka Easybake at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (XohZJ)
Posted by: boulder terlet hobo at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (VOgxg)
Your father was a hamster and your mother smelled of elderberries. I fart in your general direction!
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (DXzRD)
Fair point.
Although what about the whole "stay in the 11th century" bit they got going? At what point does that become totally nuts?
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) and his daughter at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (HDwDg)
Before Christianity everybody enslaved anybody else who was in a different tribe. Christianity said we're all in the same tribe so it's wrong to enslave each other.
That worked until the New World was discovered and there was so much money to be made but all the amerindians kept dying and they needed workers -- so the Spanish and Portuguese went to West Africa and started out-bidding the Arab Muslims for the black slaves.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 05, 2015 02:32 PM (ZPrif)
Native American culture too, was steeped in conquering and slavery of those conquered, but hoo boy that is one fact you are never allowed to speak about! Cannot let the truth get in the way of facts.
Posted by: LizLem at February 05, 2015 02:42 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (W5DcG)
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The Romans were PIKERS!!
Posted by: The Pharohs at February 05, 2015 02:42 PM (NaV4z)
I say sociopath,
You say Muslim,
Let's blow the whole desert up.
Posted by: DaveA non-lyricist at February 05, 2015 02:42 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 05, 2015 02:37 PM (NExTl)
And for God's sake, do NOT set her up for a slimming seaweed wrap at the spa!
Posted by: Insomniac at February 05, 2015 02:38 PM (mx5oN)
Yeah... the bally's gym membership probably will get my throat slit.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:42 PM (x3YFz)
.
Like a fucking hammer.
Posted by: Garrett at February 05, 2015 02:42 PM (sZyyG)
Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at February 05, 2015 02:43 PM (Bn6aD)
Free shit.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at February 05, 2015 02:43 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Carol at February 05, 2015 02:43 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: george costanza at February 05, 2015 02:43 PM (2KB+E)
Keep fucking around and you'll see Some Burning as it's really meant to be.
Posted by: Curtis LeMay, Again at February 05, 2015 02:43 PM (3yfGn)
The Crusades were a response to Muslim aggression.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 05, 2015 02:13 PM (OiH3z)
This.
Thank you, Colorado Alex. There is a wealth of scholarship on this subject. That the white-washing of islam continues apace is beyond astonishing.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 05, 2015 02:44 PM (oQQwD)
Islam on the other hand encourages and elevates people's basest instincts into virtues. It is not correctable. That is why instead of tolerant, civilized behavior becoming the norm in the Islamic world, it only exists sporadically, and is eventually wiped out by the downward momentum of groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, Hamas, etc.
Oh, and the Crusades? Largely a response to Islamic expansionism. The really ludicrous part about libtards bringing up the Crusades is that Islam is just one big huge crusade since its inception, and if the libtard really thinks not-crusading is some sort of ethical imperative, he should disapprove of Islam far more strongly than Christianity.
I say this as a non-believer, Christianity is my favorite religion that isn't true. I'd much prefer to live in a conservative Christian society than one run by Islamic or Secular barbarian imbeciles.
Posted by: I Loathe Silence Sensually at February 05, 2015 02:44 PM (xkSSa)
In a parallel universe BO would being saying, hey that happened about 1000 years ago and I wasn't even alive yet.
Posted by: booter at February 05, 2015 02:38 PM (XZCy1)
So at the prayer thingy did The One blame any of the Bushes or Reagan? Just curious.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:44 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) and his daughter at February 05, 2015 02:39 PM (HDwDg)
As CBD points out- just because you don't like it doesn't make it "broken," or "crazy." It just makes it repugnant.
Even setting that aside: if you're going to try to deal with ISIS and Mohammedan terror generally, you have to understand where the real problem is: Mohammedanism.
Sure, some of them may actually be crazy, but many more of them have simply adopted a philosophy which allows them to do things they would already be doing. It is the *philosophy* we must confront and destroy.
But Western society is unwilling to do that because "Moderate Muslims."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:44 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at February 05, 2015 02:44 PM (oDCMR)
Granted.
But people keep calling them "psychopaths" as though we can never
understand them. That is incorrect. They are quite sane. They are
very rational.
Their sanity and rationality are just based on an evil world view, worthy of Ba'al.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:37 PM (kff5f)
I see no reason why "psychopath" and "Muslim" cannot be used interchangeably when being used in relation to a person or group of people who think that burning another human being alive because he was not their kind of Muslim is something to be celebrated.
Someone who revels in blood and murder, who considers the murder or enslavement of innocents to be a natural GOOD, is a psychopath, by Western definitions. Just because their psychopathy is tied to their worldview doesn't change that fact. You can be very rational and still be a psycho. You can be sane and be a psycho, too. Your brain is wired in such a way that you crave death and savagery and butchery and blood? You're a psychopath, whether you crave those things because your dog told you or because it's written in a book based on the teachings of a long-dead pedophile.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 05, 2015 02:45 PM (4df7R)
to trot out the "Christians do it too" argument whenever he directly
criticizes the terrorists....
Nah, I think he's just tired at all this talk about Islamic Terrorism with Charlie Hebdo murders and ISIS's lates execution, and this was his way of saying STFU about it already. Just like his refusal to call it anything but "Extremism." He's been trying to change the conversation to generic domestic extremism -->Christian militias, etc. no doubt.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 05, 2015 02:45 PM (ABcz/)
Posted by: boulder terlet hobo at February 05, 2015 02:45 PM (VOgxg)
was the norm. Everyone understood, that's what happened when you lost a
war, your women were raped and your young men and boys taken as slaves
and the old people put to the torch. That was just life. That's why you
better be able to defend yourself, if you don't wanna get raped and
enslaved.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 05, 2015 02:32 PM (ZPrif)
Native American culture too, was steeped in conquering and slavery
of those conquered, but hoo boy that is one fact you are never allowed
to speak about! Cannot let the truth get in the way of facts.
Posted by: LizLem at February 05, 2015 02:42 PM (yRwC
Islam enslaves to this day. There is no one single group in the last 1500 years (whenever that mohammad douchbag was spawned) that has enslaved and terrorized, murdered and raped their way across human history.
Fucking scourge.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:45 PM (x3YFz)
Keep fucking around and you'll see Some Burning as it's really meant to be.
Posted by: Curtis LeMay, Again at February 05, 2015 02:43 PM (3yfGn)
I am sort of shocked after all the ISIS beheadings we have not torched them.
I don't think Obama cares.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2015 02:45 PM (0FSuD)
Uh huh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2015 02:45 PM (DXzRD)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2015 02:28 PM (Zu3d9)
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The PC machine is monstrous. This is what's driving the "mentally sick" meme. It and fundemental islam has produced ISIS.
Plus, we have a president that truly wants to destroy this country.
Posted by: Soona at February 05, 2015 02:46 PM (/HX7u)
Yet the US has the largest black population in the Americas. Because slave plantations in Brazil and Cuba and Mexico and elsewhere were so brutal. They just worked them to death and bought more.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at February 05, 2015 02:46 PM (ZPrif)
Hard lessons coming and there will be a test and it involves math.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 05, 2015 02:46 PM (WNERA)
I can assure you that the terrorist won't be satisfied until they get an outcome 100 times worst than the Twin Towers.
Lets just say, I'm glad I live in a small town and own LOTS of guns and bullets. You city folk are taking a big chance every day in my opininon.......
Posted by: FITP at February 05, 2015 02:47 PM (XhnU/)
The history of Islam is one that has been littered over time with an acceptance that non adherents, that is apostates, are murdered and slaughtered in the most heinous ways.
No it's not me saying that, it is the people consistently committing these acts over time to the present day.
There is no comparison with the Christian faith or doctrine. None.
Practicers of Islam can state all they want it is peaceful. In text and doctrine it is not. I've read it myself and even though I'm an "infidel" to them, I know exactly what it states.
And fuck Obama with a spork. Mr. Lying Douchebag never met an Islamic terrorist he didn't like.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 05, 2015 02:47 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 05, 2015 02:47 PM (W5DcG)
Why? Because kufir killing a Muslim is far worse than Muslims killing each other.
But why are they Muslims? If what they did, as the apologists say, is against Islam, why are they still Muslim? Why aren't they excommunicated?
The astounding answer is, Islam doesn't have the idea of excommunication. It doesn't exist. You can damage your relationship to Allah to the extent that he will not forgive you, but you'll never not be a member of Islam.
This is one of the reasons that Muslims kill one another so much. If they were a bit more civilized, just a bit, you'd excommunicate apostates, publish that, and shun the ex-Muslim. But because that process doesn't exist, if a person is apostate, the only thing they can do within the bounds of Islam is to kill them!
Posted by: bonhomme at February 05, 2015 02:48 PM (jhqr1)
2. Philemon was the justification to destroy racism.
3. Obama is a bigoted cunt.
TIA
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at February 05, 2015 02:48 PM (scgac)
I don't think Obama cares.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2015 02:45 PM (0FSuD)
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"He Who Ended The Evil Bush Wars OF Aggression" is not about to open up a new front in the War On Terror.
Posted by: The Pharohs at February 05, 2015 02:48 PM (NaV4z)
In fairness to the Progressives, they're just getting started.
Posted by: Garrett at February 05, 2015 02:48 PM (sZyyG)
In fairness to the Progressives, they're just getting started.
Posted by: Garrett at February 05, 2015 02:48 PM (sZyyG)
Posted by: Fourth Horseman looking for my saddle at February 05, 2015 02:48 PM (A7LEa)
Posted by: DaveA at February 05, 2015 02:48 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Fourth Horseman looking for my saddle at February 05, 2015 02:48 PM (A7LEa)
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Er...
Not true.
I'm not saying that Jesus encouraged violence (though he did warn his followers to *PREPARE* for it). However, it is worth remembering that at one point he fashioned a scourge and used it to drive the money changers out of the Temple.
Posted by: junior at February 05, 2015 02:49 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (W5DcG)
We had 4,000,000 slaves at the start of the War of The Rebellion.
According to Wiki, which might be total bullshit, Rome had just under 5,000,000 slaves throughout the empire, so I stand corrected.....but just barely.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2015 02:49 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Nostradamus at February 05, 2015 02:49 PM (kFxpe)
Islam on the other hand encourages and elevates people's basest instincts into virtues. It is not correctable. That is why instead of tolerant, civilized behavior becoming the norm in the Islamic world, it only exists sporadically, and is eventually wiped out by the downward momentum of groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, Hamas, etc.
That difference is basically this: Christianity exhorts us Christians to listen to our conscience.
You'll notice that moslems always have some imam issuing fatwas and all that shit. That is allowing someone else to justify your own evil.
Inner self-control versus outer direction. That still, small voice of peace vs. what somebody else says.
Thanks, but I trust my conscience. That's where I find God.
Also, I'm not talking about thought. Your thoughts are not your own.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at February 05, 2015 02:50 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: gp at February 05, 2015 02:50 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: LizLem at February 05, 2015 02:42 PM (yRwC
The late, lamented BFF was Mohawk. Oh it was great fun to get her started on that. Let's just say that bitch, a few years back I would have owned your ass was not an unknown statement from her. That and peace loving my ass, I'm Mohawk. What exactly do you think it is my great grandparents did to yours.
This is where I tell the story about being in Wal-Mart and she said something or other so I handed her a blanket and said "Here. Have this blanket."
Yes, I got smacked with the blanket a whole really lot. Yes, it was worth it.
Posted by: alexthechick - C'mon Yellowstone at February 05, 2015 02:50 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) and his daughter at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (HDwDg)
Actually, you might read Eric Flint's Ring of Fire series. There's lots of stuff there, but under it all the "Uptime" Americans are getting a lot of American technology into 1630's Europe's hands. The idea (and, in the books it works, whether or not it would in the real world) is that much of that technology (not guns and bombs, but things like airplanes, typewriters, and sewing machines) comes with so many philosophical presuppositions (along the lines of the innate equality of man and such) that you can't accept the technology without ceding that philosophical ground.
Now, obviously that's fiction and we can't know if it would really work that way. But something like it is almost certainly at play with Mohammedanism. If they allow themselves to advance past the 11th century, they're going to run face first into a lot of philosophical ideas they simply reject. So they choose not to confront them.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:50 PM (kff5f)
I am sort of shocked after all the ISIS beheadings we have not torched them.
I don't think Obama cares.
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2015 02:45 PM (0FSuD
He doesn't care
He doesn't eve give off the appearance of caring.
His fecklessness has contributed greatly to what is going on over there.
Fuck I could spit a lugi in that guys face in disgust.
Fucking cur
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:50 PM (vPh3W)
That is Obama's issue in a nutshell. Cannot be seen as being connected to the Unpeople of Jesusland, heaven forbid! So he and those of his ilk pivot to revering Islam as a ways to prove their mental superiority. Also why he denigrades America. But I agree that he is not really connected, at heart, to any religion at all.
Posted by: LizLem at February 05, 2015 02:50 PM (yRwC8)
340:350
Nip Sip... I was referring to the domestic problems we're experiencing. Sock modified accordingly to more appropriate fire-bug. We can let the mideast starve while we clean up our own backyard, and there's one sure way to make sure the job sticks. I'm fed up with the parasites, low feederz, high political offices, all of them. I'm hoping that the great rubberDogShitImport freeze brought on by the striking longshoremen hasten the enkindlement, but it's a small hope.
I will dance naked, like David, down the street when it finally topples. And wet the bed, because, you know, thats what all real pyromaniacs do.
Posted by: General Sherman, Marching, Again at February 05, 2015 02:50 PM (3yfGn)
Posted by: Barrack the first at February 05, 2015 02:51 PM (S+el1)
Yet the US has the largest black population in the Americas. Because slave plantations in Brazil and Cuba and Mexico and elsewhere were so brutal. They just worked them to death and bought more.
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Argentina had roughly about the same number of slaves that the US did but you can't find any of their descendants today. Kind of like the Middle East. No one seems interested in what happened to them cuz dead people don't vote nor care about reparations.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at February 05, 2015 02:51 PM (oDCMR)
5,000,000 slaves throughout the empire, so I stand corrected.....but
just barely.
Break it down into percentage of population.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at February 05, 2015 02:51 PM (ZKzrr)
Re: Self-defense
http://tinyurl.com/av9qq9s
"The idea that one is required to surrender his life - or the lives of his family, neighbors, or even strangers - in the face of armed attack is alien to scripture."
Posted by: Foul Harold at February 05, 2015 02:51 PM (FGvan)
That is, they didn't want to be Christians because - in the fymynysts case "Christianity disrespected and oppressed wymyn".
But they wanted to be "spiritual" so..."Buddhism" without...uh...well...Buddhist tenets and such.
The funny thing about the fymynysts and their Buddha Crush is that the Buddha had very harsh things to say about women as a group.
Much more so than the stuff you find in the Old Testament for instance.
That's one reason why you find so many evil, diabolical women in literature, movie, plays of Buddhist countries and so many many young, virtuous, enlightened young men in the same.
Anyway another teenager's thinking and reaction from TFG and fymynysts in particular.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 05, 2015 02:51 PM (0cMkb)
He doesn't respect us & isn't worthy of any respect.
Posted by: Carol at February 05, 2015 02:51 PM (sj3Ax)
own LOTS of guns and bullets. You city folk are taking a big chance
every day in my opininon.......
Posted by: FITP at February 05, 2015 02:47 PM (XhnU/)
can't eat guns or drink bullets. water and food, THEN defend it, cuz if things go pear shaped? Take the LA riots, the Watts riots and sprinkle liberally over the whole country.
People lose their collective shit when they're starving.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:52 PM (x3YFz)
leftists like to call roughly 75%, geographically, of the US of A) is
going to tolerate such nonsense eminating from Planet DC, Manhattan and
Madison.
What exactly can we do about it?
Well, the two obvious choices seem to be...
1) Rematch of Blue vs. Grey.
2) Scads of open mockery
Posted by: DocJ at February 05, 2015 02:53 PM (zrsn3)
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Microsoft's 'Age of Empires III'. The "Save the Aztec Temples from the evil Spanish Conquistadors!" mission in the first campaign.
/facepalm
Posted by: junior at February 05, 2015 02:53 PM (UWFpX)
This describes conservatives vs Liberals as well.
Posted by: FITP at February 05, 2015 02:54 PM (XhnU/)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 05, 2015 02:41 PM (W5DcG)
We had 4,000,000 slaves at the start of the War of The Rebellion.
According to Wiki, which might be total bullshit, Rome had just under 5,000,000 slaves throughout the empire, so I stand corrected.....but just barely.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 05, 2015 02:49 PM (Zu3d9)
Roman empire was much larger in size than the US of A at the time, just sayin.
And if we read our NT you'll find no specific command against slavery. At least none that I recall from all those years of lutheran school.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:54 PM (vPh3W)
Because a "psychopath" is someone with a mental break that makes him not view the same reality as the rest of us. When we catch a psychopath, we may indeed have to execute him, but we do so as humanely as possible- because to some degree what he's doing is not his "fault."
Further, any attempt to confront a psychopath with his psychosis will usually do no good. He'll simply keep acting as he was going to act anyway.
Mohammedanism, however, is fully culpable for its evil. Further, direct, brutal action against Mohammedanism does have a chance of forcing Mohammedans to reconsider the premises on which their world view is based.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at February 05, 2015 02:54 PM (kff5f)
People lose their collective shit when they're starving.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:52 PM (x3YFz)
Well, if I'm going down, I'm going down swinging.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:55 PM (vPh3W)
conquering and slavery of those conquered, but hoo boy that is one fact
you are never allowed to speak about! Cannot let the truth get in the
way of facts.
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Microsoft's 'Age of Empires III'. The "Save the Aztec Temples from
the evil Spanish Conquistadors!" mission in the first campaign.
/facepalm
Posted by: junior at February 05, 2015 02:53 PM (UWFpX)
oh yeah! Don't be in a tribe over a hill that gets overrun by the tribe over the other hill. Welcome to dead, raped or enslaved and those not presented in that order or mutually exclusive.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:55 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Penfold at February 05, 2015 02:55 PM (Fbt5B)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 05, 2015 02:55 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: wrg500 at February 05, 2015 02:56 PM (S+el1)
Posted by: common sense at February 05, 2015 02:56 PM (+YNzP)
*cough* TheGoldenRule *cough*
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at February 05, 2015 02:56 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Penfold at February 05, 2015 02:55 PM (Fbt5B)
Get off your high horse
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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:56 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Penfold at February 05, 2015 02:55 PM (Fbt5B)
Get off your high horse
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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:56 PM (vPh3W)
And much or most of Islam treats "their women" like slaves to this day.
98% of our white ancestors never owned a slave, but many of our ancestors fought to abolish slavery.
And the crusades were to repel the murderous Muslim hordes from conquering the rest of Europe, after they committed atrocities and genocide against the Christians of the Middle East for centuries.
But I'd agree that Islam today is no better than the worst of Christianity before its reformations a few hundred years ago. Obama's half brother said he wished the British whites had stayed in Kenya longer, so they'd be more advanced like South Africa, instead of constantly warring.
Posted by: Illiniwek at February 05, 2015 02:56 PM (n9wDt)
Posted by: Guy Fieri at February 05, 2015 02:57 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: se pa moron at February 05, 2015 02:57 PM (zxQ4h)
Posted by: alexthechick - C'mon Yellowstone at February 05, 2015 02:50 PM (mf5HN)
Hah, that is hilarious! Glad she had a good sense of humor.
Polynesians take pride in the fact they are descendents of warriors...when progressives try to neuter native american history and make them all peace loving hippies, they are infantilizing an entire culture. Of course they refuse to see it that way but they are.
Posted by: LizLem at February 05, 2015 02:57 PM (yRwC8)
command against slavery. At least none that I recall from all those
years of lutheran school.
*cough* TheGoldenRule *cough*
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at February 05, 2015 02:56 PM (0HooB)
I think "don't be an asshole" is universally implied.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:57 PM (x3YFz)
A one acre garden and 30 hens goes a long way to this end.
Wife wants a cow, but this may be a bridge too far.......
Posted by: FITP at February 05, 2015 02:58 PM (XhnU/)
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You mean countries in SE Asia that have Muslim populations (Such as the Philippines) had Islam forcibly shoved down their throats? It wasn't brought by the local Welcome Wagon? Damn the Religion of Pieces
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:58 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: FITP at February 05, 2015 02:58 PM (XhnU/)
Just don't pull a T9 and call your wife a cow.
Posted by: wrg500 at February 05, 2015 02:59 PM (S+el1)
They are religious schools they teach other subjects but they're mostly about religion; Islam.
There is no way that Obama did not say/participate in the Shahada.
This is the fundamental rite that all Muslims take when becoming Muslim.
It is is an Islamic creed declaring belief in the oneness of God and the acceptance of Muhammad as God's prophet.
Once spoken by the initiate, they are then Muslim and accepted as Muslim by other Muslims. Once Muslim you cannot renounce without automatic condemnation and threat of death.
To other Muslims in the world, Obama IS a Muslim. They may consider him a non practicing Muslim in need of teaching and prayer but he is considered a Muslim.
He has never participated publicly in Christian prayer. He doesn't attend a real Christian Church. He makes statements that are distinctly anti-Christian. He has forced rules and regulations through that persecute Christians in particular.
He has shown definite antipathy to Jews has appointed or nominated people who are avowedly anti-semitic black power types.
His every action in the ME has been to spread chaos and confusion amongst those who
He has refused to aid Christian partisans (Kurds, Lebanese and Syrian) in fighting against ISIS. He has had little to say about the destruction of Christian churches and the relgious war taking place in Africa by Boko Haram.
(Need I go on)
Those who refuse to accept that he IS a Muslim make it more difficult to gather support for stopping him before he does something that is irrevocable to the country.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 05, 2015 02:59 PM (RZzX3)
Just like his refusal to call it anything but "Extremism." He's been trying to change the conversation to generic domestic extremism -->Christian militias, etc. no doubt.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 05, 2015 02:45 PM (ABcz/)
This "extremism" rhetoric is eventually going to be applied to domestic dissidents. That's when things will really start to get "interesting".
Posted by: rickl at February 05, 2015 02:59 PM (zoehZ)
no further comment, it speaks for itself.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 02:59 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: FITP at February 05, 2015 03:00 PM (XhnU/)
*cough* TheGoldenRule *cough*
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at February 05, 2015 02:56 PM (0HooB
Paul, Colosians, the golden rule applied to slaves as well as their masters.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 03:00 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Sean at February 05, 2015 03:01 PM (o3U8H)
There's
something wrong with Barry. And I don't mean his taste in beards. It's
like he's lacking any kind of ability to feel anything. At all.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
That's b/c he's a sociopath. Check the eyes--like a serial killer.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at February 05, 2015 03:01 PM (/Ho8c)
dissidents. That's when things will really start to get "interesting".
Going to be applied? Listen to any Dem speech since, at least, the start of the Clinton presidency. "REPUBLICAN EXTREMISM" is pretty much the rhetorical stock-and-trade of their entire pitch.
Posted by: DocJ at February 05, 2015 03:02 PM (zrsn3)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at February 05, 2015 03:02 PM (AC0lD)
he's a muslim. You know it. I know. shit everyone knows it. He won't admit it. Everyone's to scared to acknowledge it. Facts is facts.
And for you liberals lurking? He wasnt born here and is therefore not the president of the united states.
Oh.... he's half white.
And dumber than a bag of hammers.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 03:03 PM (x3YFz)
And here I was, just expecting him to make another stupid "Am I my brother's keeper?" misappropriation of scripture.
Posted by: red speck at February 05, 2015 03:03 PM (9/Ug/)
Usually the pieces are too small and disbursed to support combustion.
Posted by: Your Small Diameter Bomb tax dollars at work at February 05, 2015 03:03 PM (DL2i+)
Love thy neighbor as thy self. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
It is implicit in those statements that no one with a conscience could allow anyone enslaved to remain so.
For what it's worth, it's also the foundation of the welfare state but with the reminder that if you impoverish yourself you can no longer help others.
Self regulating.
It also precludes some of the nastier parts of war and aggressive business.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 05, 2015 03:03 PM (RZzX3)
How? By studiously becoming g "Nothing and everything" over the course of his life and luckily having that intersect with what the broken American electorate
wanted.
After all :
We're here arguing whether or not he's a Muslim.
Is he black? But he has a white mother. Who's his daddy?
Where was he born? What were his grades? Idiot or genius?
Is he a commie or a crony corporatist.
Bisexual? Maybe.
Drone warrior or dithering wimp?
Maybe the worst part of all this is that he refuses to clear any of it up. Check that - hell, he plays up the mystery. It's the source of his power. And we stupidly gave it to him
Posted by: Jaws at February 05, 2015 03:03 PM (WKNX4)
Heh.
As I've studied my Christian faith, I've occasionally run across some things I really had to think about before they made sense. (and yeah, no jokes about me being somewhat dense, please).
Those "Aha!" moments are what I remember the best. Direct instructions work the best (see: Commandments, Ten), but every once in a while The Big Guy will see what you can figure out on your own. Or at least it seems that way to me. YMMV.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at February 05, 2015 03:04 PM (0HooB)
I'd be happy to declare that any religious violence that took place before 1457 is officially out of bounds for finger-pointing.
You know, since I'm angry about ISIS burning people alive and kidnapping little girls to be sex slaves, rather than, say, the fall of Constantinople.
Posted by: SparcVark at February 05, 2015 03:04 PM (nKOXj)
Posted by: wrg500 at February 05, 2015 03:04 PM (S+el1)
And if we read our NT you'll find no specific command against
slavery. At least none that I recall from all those years of lutheran
school.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February
True, but how did the relative population percentages compare?
Posted by: Moderate Salami at February 05, 2015 03:04 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2015 02:54 PM (vPh3W)
----------------------------
You are correct. Please add the OT to the list. The only admonition to Jews regarding slaves was to not sell them to non-Jews if you could.
In America it was the Quakers, the original WWJD people, that came up with abolition of slavery and acted on it. The believed in their self revelation so strongly that they convinced themselves it was okay to break literal Commandments in pursuit of a higher good. Sound familiar?
The Quakers also came up with Skakerism and thus these people don't exist anymore. Be careful with self revelations. Not everyone is a prophet and you could put your eye out.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at February 05, 2015 03:04 PM (oDCMR)
And I hate that guy for saying that we're just as bad because of what some Christians did 200 to 500 years ago.
I, as a woman, am damn lucky that I was born in America, instead of in some hellhole run by people who think it's the year 1200 AD. And I will get on my high horse and praise America every damn chance I get. If that bastard thinks we're just as bad as them, he can go live with those barbarians.
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2015 03:05 PM (682oB)
Not really.
A psychopath doesn't conform to social norms of behavior, lies, is impulsive, irritable, aggressive, recklessly disregards the safety of others, and lacks remorse.
Their perception of reality is otherwise not impaired.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 05, 2015 03:05 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: McAdams at February 05, 2015 03:06 PM (xgAmd)
How many Mooselimb jihad rampages have there been since then?
Compare and contrast.
Posted by: Moderate Salami at February 05, 2015 03:06 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Moderate Salami at February 05, 2015 03:01 PM (/Ho8c)
mmmm hmmm.
sociopath, narcissist, he's checking all the boxes that qualify people for 20 years in the hole.
At one point I was thinking "this fucker's a serial killer!" But then I realized he doesn't have the balls to do any wet work.
Add "coward" to his resume
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 03:07 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: james at February 05, 2015 03:09 PM (rVEMe)
like a doll's eye. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be livin'.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 05, 2015 03:09 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: nip at February 05, 2015 03:10 PM (jI23+)
This is what justice looks like being made, you racist Jesusland teatards.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 05, 2015 03:12 PM (/BTP8)
Posted by: Regular Guy at February 05, 2015 03:12 PM (XYKz+)
And for you liberals lurking? He wasnt born here and is therefore not the president of the united states.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 03:03 PM (x3YFz)
Personally, I think his birthplace is practically irrelevant at this point. He is culturally an alien. He was raised to hate America.
Posted by: rickl at February 05, 2015 03:13 PM (zoehZ)
humility. To break the world's most dangerous rogue nation and put you
in your places, ensuring those long oppressed get their payback.
This is what justice looks like being made, you racist Jesusland teatards.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT
For once, you're pretty much right, MC. At least until you got the part about "justice".
Posted by: Moderate Salami at February 05, 2015 03:14 PM (/Ho8c)
Direct instructions work the best (see: Commandments, Ten), but every
once in a while The Big Guy will see what you can figure out on your
own. Or at least it seems that way to me. YMMV.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at February 05, 2015 03:04 PM (0HooB)
preachin to the choir brother. I've had more than my share of moments where I realized stuff that, after I realized it, I realized I shoulda realized it about 2 or 3 decades ago.
Some of us critters are a bit slow on the uptake and it's a good thing He has infinite patience. Man I love him. Can't wait to see Him.
Don't take that wrong, I'll be here a while, but at the end of the day I want to know how he'd play the queen's gambit, why he chose so much symmetry, why he structured everything in circles and orbits.... so many questions.
I'm gonna just pester him non stop.
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 03:15 PM (x3YFz)
Just ain't gonna happen. Thanks, Black Democratium!
Posted by: Moderate Salami at February 05, 2015 03:16 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 03:15 PM (x3YFz)
I'll sit and listen.
Posted by: wrg500 at February 05, 2015 03:16 PM (S+el1)
God: "let him in"
Me: "I've got a few questions"
God: "Are you sure I created you? Aww just kidding... "
Me: "oh... you got jokes now?"
Posted by: TangoNine at February 05, 2015 03:18 PM (x3YFz)
i mean that was Hundreds of years ago. like the constitution
Posted by: comrade willow at February 05, 2015 03:18 PM (nqBYe)
If you do, then explain the significance of the thousands/millions of supporters and others here and around this idiot who see no problem with this sort of standard historically illiterate, outrageous moral imbecility. People who have no brush with Islam whatsoever. Left-wing "Christians". Agnostics and atheists. Liberal Jews. It's the ignorance, self-loathing, and historical illiteracy, not the Islamic identity or sympathies.
Jaws said it very well above.
And McAdams, I had a reaction like yours (how can Dems stand to be burdened with this sort of outrageous, indefensible s**t from a president?) years ago, not long after 9/11, when various Dems and people like them started saying/doing the most outrageous stuff. No consequences. Nothing. Freaking Michael Moore feted at the DNC Convention where a farcical airhead, asshole, and lying slanderer of our military was coronated as their candidate. And that idiot came within a few thousands votes of displacing a president fighting a serious war on an enemy that had just dealt us our biggest blow in history.
All sorts of linkages, standards, etc. just evaporated some time in the years right after 9/11. Do not recognize the country, public square, or electorate, haven't for years. Apparently my problem, as there's not the slightest sign of an ebb and flow.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 05, 2015 03:20 PM (afQnV)
WH, declined to say who all attended the meeting, but considering that Muslim Brotherhood terrorists were recently hosted at the State Department, you can get an idea.
Posted by: Guest at February 05, 2015 03:20 PM (uingK)
Posted by: Regular Guy at February 05, 2015 03:20 PM (XYKz+)
Posted by: the Butcher at February 05, 2015 03:21 PM (fUjxW)
Last Muslim atrocity: yesterday
When you have to go back over 600 years to find our last blemish then that is stretching.
Posted by: Greg at February 05, 2015 03:21 PM (jz2Ek)
More interesting, and fundamental: didn't the course of the lawsuit brought by the Hillary backer in 2008 essentially leave it that there is no way to enforce the native-born requirement for presidents? No standing.
Looking to be corrected/updated, but as I recall the amazing thing was that, when the dust settled, the SCOTUS had de facto made it impossible to identify what entity or what course of action could ever bar a foreign-born person from becoming president. Nobody has standing.
Among my forlorn political hopes is that some self-funded foreign-born zillionaire will openly campaign for the presidency, flaunting his untouchable status. Just to mock the farce that our republic and constitutional and judicial system has become.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 05, 2015 03:25 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2015 03:27 PM (682oB)
Posted by: Regular Guy at February 05, 2015 03:28 PM (XYKz+)
Posted by: Mac at February 05, 2015 03:28 PM (0J18b)
Posted by: Lt. Dan at February 05, 2015 03:29 PM (jI23+)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2015 03:30 PM (682oB)
Posted by: Regular Guy at February 05, 2015 03:30 PM (XYKz+)
The next Republican president could really troll the hell out of the press by simply finding statements Obama has made and repeating them verbatim at news conferences from time to time. Then when the media explodes in anger over how disgusting those views are he can simply point out that he forgot to mention who he was quoting.
Posted by: Thatch at February 05, 2015 03:32 PM (m/nBa)
Posted by: Regular Guy at February 05, 2015 03:32 PM (XYKz+)
Posted by: eman at February 05, 2015 02:07 PM (66/zW)
Well, if he did, Hairy Reed would comfort the toddler.
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2015 03:32 PM (682oB)
Posted by: nerdygirl
That point being?
Posted by: Moderate Salami at February 05, 2015 03:33 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 05, 2015 02:07 PM (JxMoP)
So he didn't mention that a lot of the abolitionists were Christians?
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2015 03:34 PM (682oB)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 05, 2015 03:41 PM (682oB)
Posted by: Farmer Joe at February 05, 2015 03:42 PM (Ztfnl)
Posted by: Loveulongtime at February 05, 2015 03:44 PM (mdg8n)
Nothing like this happens to the most hardened terrorists even in Gitmo. And you'd have to go back more than 1000 years to find examples of this in the West.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 05, 2015 03:48 PM (Y92Nd)
Can I just say, for the record, Jim Crow, Slavery, the crusades....who gives the slightest shit about these things? There is no one alive today who participated in the crusades. The inquisition? 1392. Slavery. When did that end exactly? Right....1865. Jim Crow? It ended in 1964, the year I was fucking born.
He is comparing that to shit that happened last week. That will, in all probability, happen again next week.
And why did all that stuff end? Was it because we practiced moral relevancy and made excuses? No. They all ended because we pulled up ourbig boy pants and called them what they were, and if necessaryproceeded to kick the ass of anyone who disagreed. Anyone think Obama is going to do that any time soon? Guy can't even stutter out the words Islamic terrorist.
Posted by: Dr. McCoy at February 05, 2015 03:49 PM (F192H)
You know, there are people that think being a contrarian makes you smart. Sometimes I think Obama takes "unconventional" stances because he thinks it makes him seem smart and sophisticated.
"Sure, burning a guy alive is bad, but we have to put that in historical context..."
Posted by: Dr. McCoy at February 05, 2015 04:00 PM (F192H)
Posted by: Tom Coburn at February 05, 2015 04:01 PM (G5LFK)
Well, I'm Jewish, and I have not to my knowledge participated in any Crusades. And my family came to the US in the 1920s and 1950s, so any effect we had on Jim Crow and slaverywas via the Trilateral Commission and the Elders of Zion.
Oh, and even in the worst days, we never treated our women like goats and our goats like women. So we're ahead of the Muslims there.
So am I allowed to tell him to go fuck himself with a phone pole?
Posted by: orthodoc at February 05, 2015 04:02 PM (tkLNx)
https://alfter.us/wp/?p=3342
When do we draw up the impeachment papers?
Posted by: salfter at February 05, 2015 04:09 PM (kmvkg)
Posted by: StrinaM at February 05, 2015 04:15 PM (/WYy+)
"Well, there are moderate Muslims who speak out against the savagery. Ya know, like Ayaan Hirsi Ali"
Ali was raised Muslim but is now an atheist.
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 05, 2015 04:20 PM (P24zs)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 05, 2015 03:12 PM (/BTP
Oh, that's precious, Mary. But just to let you know, justice, when it comes to the US of A, is not going to be particularly kind to, ahem, "your" people.Just sayin' is all.
Posted by: DocJ at February 05, 2015 04:32 PM (zrsn3)
I need to know what OregonMuse thinks about this. It's obviously impossible to believe my lyin' eyes.
Posted by: Megan at February 05, 2015 04:51 PM (PhxOq)
Let me quadruple the motion: Ace is en fuego!
Posted by: Nyc parent on tiny device at February 05, 2015 04:59 PM (yvYC/)
Many are witch children
They are often blamed for causing traffic accidents and bad weather
That African bishop who anointed Sarah along in the YouTube vid is a famous witch hunter
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live
Posted by: Tighter at February 05, 2015 05:17 PM (wyeK6)
Me? I am having second thoughts about giving the most radical Islamists billions to fight the commies in Astan
Likewise the wisdom of overthrowing the most powerful secular regime in the Mid East
Posted by: Tighter at February 05, 2015 05:30 PM (wyeK6)
Posted by: ron n. at February 05, 2015 06:37 PM (YVQn/)
Can you believe they convince people to be THIS STUPID ? Fast amnesia for them, never forget-to blame/accuse Christians and justify vicious savage jihad Islam.
Posted by: ron n. at February 05, 2015 06:41 PM (YVQn/)
Posted by: LA Dodgers Fan at February 05, 2015 07:05 PM (1ilB8)
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Posted by: Tommy Vietor at February 05, 2015 07:32 PM (rldyO)
and yes the Crusades were 700 years ago.
Pointing to bad behavior to justify bad behavior is the mentality of a 12 year old!
Posted by: Coldwarrior57 at February 05, 2015 07:58 PM (rO5kl)
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Posted by: Illiniwek at February 05, 2015 02:56 PM (n9wDt)
This is false. The Luo tribe is not traditionally Muslim. 90% of the tribe is Christian (see link in my name).
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The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)