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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 10:15 PM (K4xGQ) 2
Woot woot ONT
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 10:15 PM (K4xGQ) 3
Howdy, y'all!
Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 10:15 PM (T1005) 4
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------ So what do you have against CT? Anyway you will be called a neo-con 17 times. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 10:18 PM (K4xGQ) 5
'Sup, y'all.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2015 10:19 PM (nL0sw) Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 29, 2015 10:19 PM (GEICT) 7
Yo morons!
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 29, 2015 10:20 PM (ucDmr) 8
There was a Simpsons bit where one of the cafeteria foods (sloppy joes?) was advertised "now with more pig anus!" That's all I got.
Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at January 29, 2015 10:20 PM (entkf) 9
Social Justice is Antithetical to Privacy
One of the core tenets of "Social Justice" is the fundamental transformation of society. To fundamentally transform society, you must fundamentally transform human thinking and behavior. You can't fundamentally transform human thinking and behavior if they have the legal shield of privacy. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=7896 Posted by: The Political Hat at January 29, 2015 10:21 PM (0Ew3K) 10
Suicide is Male Privilege
It is being taught as absolute truth that being a privileged oppressor turns people into a social misfit (presumably due to covetously being covetous) who are then driven to suicide by their own evil. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=8029 Posted by: The Political Hat at January 29, 2015 10:21 PM (0Ew3K) 11
So....did we piss anyone off today?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 29, 2015 10:21 PM (GEICT) Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2015 10:22 PM (9BRsg) 13
Pretty sure those Flapper rules are all good rules for today.
And sexist and slut shaming and patriarchy. Posted by: Lauren at January 29, 2015 10:22 PM (MYCIw) 14
From one of my later comments from the prior thread. About how the left ends up eating itself as it always does:
HR Director: "Wendy - we are both womyn, but everyone kicks in three bucks a month to the office kitchen fund. It isn't a big deal." "You traitorous running dog to the patriarchal masters! Contributing money to this kitchen fund is just masking the over-arching power of the patriarchy and you are complicit with it!" HR Dir.: "No Sweet-and-Low for you, then" "Once more you are indulging in the stereotypes of womyn having to watch what they eat so they keep a figure pleasing to the patriarchy!" "No, if you don't contribute..." "No forced contribution like the forcing of womyn to bear the war-childs of the patriarchy! This is rape! Kitchen funds are rape! Sweet-and-Low is rape! Everything in this place is rape!" Yes, I do look forward to the next round of the left, nearing the crest of the wave, devouring itself. Which would be patriarchal-enforced rape of the most sexually degrading kind. *photos please* /s I kid, I kid. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 29, 2015 10:23 PM (g+akU) 15
Hooooorde!
>>>Thanks to Tammy who's clearly up on all anal-related news I see no possible way this will end poorly. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 10:23 PM (e+1S5) 16
Conservatives that wanna smoke pot. I got no problem with that. But we have a pretty good model for government, right? Better then any of the others and all that.
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at January 29, 2015 10:24 PM (KG0mU) 17
Howdy...
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2015 10:24 PM (ytyye) 18
I see no possible way this will end poorly.
Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 10:23 PM (e+1S5) Depends on the particular situation. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 29, 2015 10:24 PM (GEICT) Posted by: Sven10077 at January 29, 2015 10:25 PM (/4AZU) 20
Something about anuses in South America
It is an article about a company that makes chocolate bon-bons molded on the purchasers' anuses. Ani. Anusi. whatever. If you want the special treatment they can make something bronzable. SMOD. We deserve it. Posted by: Kindltot at January 29, 2015 10:25 PM (t//F+) 21
Reason aren't libertarians -- they're liberals who lean towards the Left, which makes them Leftist totalitarians. Libertarians are liberals who lean Right. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 10:25 PM (K8c3j) 22
My entry: You will be called a neo-con 4 times.
C'mon whatever... Daddy needs a new pair of ampersands.... Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 29, 2015 10:26 PM (AC0lD) 23
Here's just one paragraph from that awful Reason article:
"Let's recall some facts, which perhaps Eastwood thought were too obvious to need mention: Kyle was part of an invasion force: Americans went to Iraq. Iraq did not invade America or attack Americans. Dictator Saddam Hussein never even threatened to attack Americans. Contrary to what the George W. Bush administration suggested, Iraq had nothing to do with the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001. Before Americans invaded Iraq, al-Qaeda was not there. Nor was it in Syria, Yemen, and Libya." At least half a dozen big lies right in that nonsense mess. And Steyn (or whomever it was) defined the big "L" libertarianism perfectly. Posted by: Thrawn at January 29, 2015 10:26 PM (d7XFS) 24
My grandmother was a flapper.
As I understand it, large bosoms were not compatible with the flapper look, so she (and others) would bind their chests. I'm thinking the horde would *not* really be that into flappers, given that fact. Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2015 10:26 PM (9BRsg) 25
Three cheers for Unsymetrical Dimethyl Hydrazine (UDMH) - the nectar that I have christened to get me through the Obama years (Wild Turkey Mountain Dew)! Dear God knows I need something... Those of you with launch backgrounds will appreciate the appellation.
Posted by: Al Shabbah at January 29, 2015 10:26 PM (0cASh) 26
eplacing their tired old bungholes with fresh anus transplants from young children. And lest perfectly good organs get wasted the old anuses are turned into delicious candied delicacies available at high end confectioners. So it's win-win for everyone---Maet
Flat of peaches anyone? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 10:27 PM (K4xGQ) 27
Yo, Cochran. I'm really digging the podcasts. Odd that you both sound about how I expected.
But I did have to turn it off the other day, when I had it on in the garage gym and smashed myself in the throat with the bar. Sorta like the don't drink whilst reading the comments rule. Except much more painful than tequila out the nose. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 10:27 PM (e+1S5) Posted by: Redshirt at January 29, 2015 10:27 PM (Ae09I) 29
Fact: pull down faucets remind me of my first job, which motivated me to never touch one again. Posted by: JohnnyBoy at January 29, 2015 10:28 PM (KG0mU) 30
Thanks to Tammy who's clearly up on all anal-related news
I see no possible way this will end poorly. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 10:23 PM (e+1S5) Right??? He tees me all up, and if I take a swing, I get The Look. It's a gawt damned Maetriarchy all up in here! And I'm really not up on ALL anal related news. The one time was enough for me. I love those Flapper rules. Our grandmothers were right about everything. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 10:28 PM (Pauop) 31
Of course. How can the same people call Clay Akin a "hero" for announcing he likes penises in his mouth and anus and consider Chris Kyle a hero? They can't. And they don't want you to, either. The Left will tell who's a hero and who's not a hero. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 10:28 PM (K8c3j) 32
So: tomorrow.
I get to find out how much I cannot afford to fix my car around 7:30. I've already learned how much I cannot afford to replace my car. Around 3, I get to have two more teeth ripped from my head. I'm drinking now, and watching The Big Lebowski. I hope, beyond all hope, beyond all prayers, that I have an allergic reaction to the local anesthetic, and don't get up out of that chair. 3:33 sounds like a nice time and a nice number. Best possible ending to this idiotic story. Posted by: Null at January 29, 2015 10:28 PM (xjpRj) 33
I've been playing around on twitter a fair bit lately.
It's really hard to have any sort of conversation, given the constraints, but there's a lot of potential for trolling and mobying. In fact, it's perfect for mobying. This week several NRO types did some Palin and Huckabee bashing. CW Cooke was one. He then complained about all the Palin cultists attacking him. Thing is, I looked at several of them and was convinced they were mobys. Very effective mobys. They swore their allegiance to Palin and viciously attacked Cooke and others, which had the intended effect of increasing hatred of Palin. We could do that to the people we hate. And it's kinda fun. You can have as many accounts as you want. And you can used software like TweetDeck to manage multiple accounts, easy to switch back and forth. So create the most batshit insane SJW account and attack moderate Dems and Libs for every PC speech infraction. Or create a proud open Communist account who's ecstatic about Obama and the final destruction of capitalism. Twitter is perfect for moby accounts. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 10:29 PM (ZPrif) 34
But I did have to turn it off the other day, when I had it on in the garage gym and smashed myself in the throat with the bar. Sorta like the don't drink whilst reading the comments rule. Except much more painful than tequila out the nose.
Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 10:27 PM (e+1S5) Hahahahaha....what got you? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 29, 2015 10:29 PM (GEICT) 35
Did someone say "anal-related news"???
https://twitter.com/Cosmopolitan/status/560828509837594624 Safe for work. Posted by: andycanuck at January 29, 2015 10:29 PM (L6/+u) 36
Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560916249946107905 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560916727437873155 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560917091382198273 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560917632569049088 Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2015 10:29 PM (GrXXa) 37
TX Judge Refuses to Toss Rick Perry Indictment
The biggest mistake this country ever made was not to arrest the Supreme Court justices in the majority for "Roe v Wade". When they concocted a "penumbra" of the Constitution, they arrogated to themselves the right to define that penumbra. They became legislators. They attempted a coup against the Congress, and called out the President. Eisenhower, in not challenging this ruling, revealed himself as a Stalinist. He'd fight Nazis; but he wouldn't fight a domestic insurrection, not if its cause was righteous in his own eyes. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 29, 2015 10:29 PM (AVEe1) 38
26: So, it's covered under Obamacare then?
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 29, 2015 10:29 PM (ucDmr) Posted by: Shoot Me at January 29, 2015 10:29 PM (EQcfE) 40
It is weird to think that West Point is now more libertine than Dartmouth.
Posted by: blaster at January 29, 2015 10:30 PM (Rx8ML) 41
That mandate by Dartmouth's president reads like a modern-day Communist Manifesto.
Posted by: Hans Gruber at January 29, 2015 10:30 PM (Dwehj) Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 29, 2015 10:30 PM (AVEe1) 43
Like perhaps most conservatives I briefly flirted with libertarianism in college. It was a dark time for sure - too much reading of JS Mill.
As the years go by my disdain for the libertarians only increases, and pieces like the one in Reason don't help. Posted by: Paul at January 29, 2015 10:31 PM (1vxz6) 44
Love the flapper look.
Of course, I've been on the board of the itty bitty titty committee since I was barely 14. Posted by: Garrett at January 29, 2015 10:31 PM (7+hc/) 45
>>Posted by: Null at January 29, 2015 10:28 PM
Man, you are having a shitty week. Hang in there, ok? My week's been crappy, too, but not as bad as yours. So far, no loss of teeth scheduled. Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2015 10:31 PM (9BRsg) 46
In RE: The World Leaving Us Alone.
The early American Republic under its first governments ran into the problem that the world would not leave us alone no matter how much the USA wanted the world to do that. From Revolutionary France to the Barbary Pirates to Jefferson's Embargo the world would not leave the USA alone because the USA was part of the world. Quasi-War to Full War, the early USA was fighting people because - get this - they wanted a fight to get their way, and their way meant we do what they say, when they say it, and that will be so much - and in specie, mind you. Or in supplies-in-kind. But it always was 'you pay us' and so it went and so it goes, as it has always gone because we are all in the same world and we are dealing with humans. And humans are all the same - they all follow their perceived interests and the vices. No Reason article not backed up with a gun will convince other people otherwise. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 29, 2015 10:31 PM (g+akU) 47
Ginger Thursday Evening Wear ONT Compliance Pics
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560990909505236994 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560991179920384000 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560991506560204800 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560991772219043840 Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2015 10:31 PM (GrXXa) 48
>>>It is an article about a company that makes chocolate bon-bons molded on the purchasers' anuses. Ani. Anusi. whatever.<<<
Posted by: Steve Kroft at January 29, 2015 10:31 PM (tdmtT) 49
I'm thinking the horde would *not* really be that into flappers, given that fact. Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2015 10:26 Oh to the contrary. Unwrapping Xmas presents & fappers are what we live for. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 10:32 PM (K4xGQ) 50
Another idea - lots of morons are on twitter these days.
Conservatives use the hashtoag #tcot for "top conservatives on twitter", the Moronosphre could use #tmot or something, "top morons on twitter". Just a thought. The Left uses #p2. Not sure what it stands for, Progressives 2.0 perhaps? Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 10:32 PM (ZPrif) 51
If you did a reading/drinking game with that POS on "diverse" or any variation thereof, you'd be plastered by the third paragraph.
Posted by: Hans Gruber at January 29, 2015 10:32 PM (Dwehj) 52
I did a quick trawl on DuckDuckGo for the "artists" involved with making anus-shaped chocholates. One article with the HuffPo and the rest either in forums or in Spanish
Apparently there is a lot of interest in stupid shyte in Spanish speaking countries. They probably need more dubbed cat videos. Posted by: Kindltot at January 29, 2015 10:32 PM (t//F+) 53
Damn you, Pixy.
>>>It is an article about a company that makes chocolate bon-bons molded on the purchasers' anuses. Ani. Anusi. whatever.<<< Hope they have a newsletter! Posted by: Steve Kroft at January 29, 2015 10:33 PM (tdmtT) 54
Were Alvin York and Audie Murphy racist spree killers?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2015 10:33 PM (W5DcG) 55
Like perhaps most conservatives I briefly flirted with libertarianism in college. It was a dark time for sure - too much reading of JS Mill.
As the years go by my disdain for the libertarians only increases, and pieces like the one in Reason don't help. Posted by: Paul at January 29, 2015 10:31 PM (1vxz6) Perfect antidote to John Stewart Mills is "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" by James FitzJames Stephens. Posted by: The Political Hat at January 29, 2015 10:33 PM (0Ew3K) 56
I'm thinking the horde would *not* really be that into flappers, given that fact.
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2015 10:26 PM (9BRsg) Thin dresses and no bras were not conducive to the 'Mae West' type when doing those dances back then. If you catch my drift.... Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 29, 2015 10:33 PM (g+akU) 57
I'm thinking the horde would *not* really be that into flappers, given that fact.
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2015 10:26 PM (9BRsg) sounds fun, like a mystery, you unbind da boobehs and then find out how big they are at that point you are prolly gunna get sex, so eleventy !!!! Posted by: # key at January 29, 2015 10:34 PM (N21UI) 58
Yeah, didn't understand that Ike/Nixon thing.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2015 10:34 PM (p4Ll/) 59
38 26: So, it's covered under Obamacare then? Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 29, 2015 10 Depends if you are from the hood Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 10:34 PM (K4xGQ) 60
Sorry to carry over a theme over from the last thread but Jean, I think the Left is mostly pro-vaccine while also being closed to any look at the impact of immigration on communicable diseases.
Posted by: cm9000 at January 29, 2015 10:34 PM (8zCR+) 61
>>>Libertarians are liberals who lean Right.
Big L libertarians for sure. I don't really have a political party that represents me, I guess. I'm on board with most of the libertarian agenda, right until we reach the nearest coastline or border. I just want to be left the fuck alone, with as much of my paycheck intact as possible. Any activity that doesn't actively harm me I don't give a wet dart about. Anyone that threatens me or mine should be swiftly destroyed. That applies to common street criminals and enemy nation states equally. Similarly, if you break into my house, you'll get shot, stabbed or bludgeoned. Same principle applies to my country. Enter without my permission, leave on a gurney. Ugh. Enough politics, I'm gonna get drunk. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 10:35 PM (e+1S5) 62
Unwrapping a mummy isn't my cup of tea. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 10:35 PM (K8c3j) 63
sounds fun, like a mystery, you unbind da boobehs and then find out how big they are
-- They don't necessarily pop back into their original shape, sadly. Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2015 10:35 PM (9BRsg) 64
I haven't seen Sniper but I would bet 10000 quatloos those hating it haven't seen it either.
Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2015 10:35 PM (MDgS8) Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 10:36 PM (K4xGQ) Posted by: OregonMuse at January 29, 2015 10:36 PM (V64xa) 67
Flappers. 1927. In a "Speak-Easy." Celebrating Lucky Lindy's crossing. Driving home in my Stutz.
Life was good. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2015 10:36 PM (p4Ll/) Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2015 10:37 PM (MDgS8) 69
Hussein didn't have post 1991 WMD. He had nothing to do with 9/11 and he was not aligned with al quaeda. These are indisputable facts and if this makes me a libtard in the eyes of some keyboard warriors then so be it.
We won't win anything with more of the same old bad ideas from guys like bush 2, Cheney and McCain. Defend our borders and quit worrying about the Iraqi borders Posted by: Wj at January 29, 2015 10:37 PM (0Hy2G) Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2015 10:37 PM (9KY3c) 71
New hector?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2015 10:38 PM (p4Ll/) Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2015 10:39 PM (MDgS8) 73
Concern noted.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 29, 2015 10:39 PM (GEICT) 74
For celebrities and people with a name, twitter is obviously useful. For a nobody, like me, it's useful to follow the news, since I'm a new junkie, but extremely hard to inject any ideas into the stream. Other than crafting tiny atoms of memes.
There's no room for subtlety. Literally not enough characters for nuance. So it has to be some simple bare-bones meme-though. Usually you have less than two full sentences to communicate with. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 10:39 PM (ZPrif) 75
I flirted with libertarianism Big L and little, when it became obvious that republicans sucked. But the ZAP theory of government would only work in a small population of very like minded individuals. It is unworkable even for a small city, much less a nation.
Constitutional Republic, with representatives elected by citizens, is the best form of government devised by man, for man. Where do we go to get one of those? Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2015 10:39 PM (XmOA9) 76
>>>It's a gawt damned Maetriarchy all up in here!
That's Muldoon-level punnery right there. Well done. >>>Hahahahaha....what got you? Heh. I can't remember. I was too busy coughing and trying to figure out what this barbell was doing on my face. It was right before or right after you corrected AtC about the botoxed bitch. I'll have to go back to find the line. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 10:40 PM (e+1S5) 77
My daughter stopped by to bring my extra room back to what it was. She had a short term need for it between residences she could afford. My pride factor grew because as she worked the grandkids played. Not on the available computer games but boxes and toy guns.
Damn those kids have energy that can't be contained in any chair. My Hope Posted by: Redshirt at January 29, 2015 10:40 PM (Ae09I) Posted by: Coach Pete Carroll, Troofer at January 29, 2015 10:40 PM (Dwehj) 79
Carlos the Jackal. He was hiding out in Damascus. Then things got to hot for him there. Where did he go? Husseins Iraq.
Hussein was a bad guy and he needed doing. Posted by: blaster at January 29, 2015 10:40 PM (Rx8ML) 80
I'm gonna go with 10 times with being called a neo-con just for the simple fact that the ONT dies faster and faster so there wnt be people around to goad the Paultards
Posted by: The Dude at January 29, 2015 10:40 PM (SyKbw) 81
Eisenhower, in not challenging this ruling, revealed himself as a Stalinist
Uh, don't you mean Nixon, it being 1973 and all? Posted by: OregonMuse at January 29, 2015 10:41 PM (V64xa) 82
65: Ira Bong. Coolest name ever. One hell of a fighter pilot. Went to his memorial when I was a kid, guy deserved better.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 29, 2015 10:41 PM (ucDmr) 83
They don't necessarily pop back into their original shape, sadly.
Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2015 10:35 PM (9BRsg) wasn't that how motorboating was invented? motorboat da boobeh's back to pre-bind conditions? Posted by: # key at January 29, 2015 10:41 PM (N21UI) Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 10:41 PM (K8c3j) 85
It was right before or right after you corrected AtC about the botoxed bitch. I'll have to go back to find the line.
Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 10:40 PM (e+1S5) When I called Harry Reid, "Alleged Pederast Harry Reid"? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 29, 2015 10:41 PM (GEICT) 86
"Hussein didn't have post 1991 WMD. He had nothing to do with 9/11 and he was not aligned with al quaeda. These are indisputable facts and if this makes me a libtard in the eyes of some keyboard warriors then so be it. "
And that has what to do with Chris Kyle? Should he have just refused to shoot the Iraquis that were gunning at his mates because the war, according to you, was unjust? The problem with people like you is that it is not enough to oppose American foreign policy decisions, you have to criticize everything and everyone related to our foreign policy, including our soldiers. Disagree with the war, sure, but don't tear down the soldiers because of it. Posted by: Paul at January 29, 2015 10:41 PM (1vxz6) 87
Why in hell.... would anyone.... want someone to make a mold of their asshole? As if it isn't humiliating enough to show it off to someone you hardly know....
Okay, this is the sign of the end times, sure as hell. Posted by: tcn in AK at January 29, 2015 10:41 PM (+YMhA) 88
oops, bth already corrected himself. so much for my pedantic snark...
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 29, 2015 10:42 PM (V64xa) 89
*sniff* *sniff*
Who left the cellar door open? I've told you people, and I've told you. Do you listen? No. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 10:42 PM (e+1S5) 90
It's still libertarian domestic policy that's the dealbreaker.
I'm seeing more and more libertarians say "The more I learn about the Founders, the more I doubt this country ever knew real liberty." YES. Your ideas are radically different from what we have promised to undertake. You are not restoring anything. Posted by: Chris_Balsz at January 29, 2015 10:42 PM (8rRE+) 91
Huckabee rules for living
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 29, 2015 10:42 PM (zOTsN) 92
Hussein was a sponsor of terrorism around the west. Just like Quadafi, Assad, and the Iranians.
Whether or not he was caught red handed with WMD is irrelevant. He had already established his willingness to use them. Posted by: Garrett at January 29, 2015 10:43 PM (7+hc/) 93
Look I don't speak Mexican so as best as I can make out from this article rich South American women are apparently replacing their tired old bungholes
Where the fck do you find this shit? Yikes. Posted by: Infidel at January 29, 2015 10:43 PM (PP90u) 94
54 Were Alvin York and Audie Murphy racist spree killers?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2015 10:33 PM (W5DcG) No, silly, that was Alvin, Simon and Theodore. Posted by: tcn in AK at January 29, 2015 10:44 PM (+YMhA) Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2015 10:44 PM (MDgS8) 96
But the ZAP theory of government would only work in a small population of very like minded individuals. It is unworkable even for a small city, much less a nation.
Ooh, ooh, I know: "What does communism have in common with Libertarianism?" Posted by: OregonMuse at January 29, 2015 10:45 PM (V64xa) 97
Posted by: Wj at January 29, 2015 10:37 PM (0Hy2G)
Where, precisely, should the borders start when you have actors like the 9/11 Al Quaeda types who are not acting for a state? At least not acting for a state as we traditionally know a state? Or acting from an area, a base, where no state has any kind of control that one would expect from a state? How do you deal with these stateless nomadic tribes that plunder and rule through areas that are - on the map - part of a state when that state cannot actually rule those areas? This is Kipling's World, and it involves a solution from that world. It is the world as it has not existed for over a hundred years. Welcome to the reality that everyone understood, and everyone in the west forgot when the Great 19th century Empires got their thing on. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 29, 2015 10:45 PM (g+akU) 98
Ooooooooooookaaaaaaaaaaaayyy, Dave!!!
Posted by: Alvin at January 29, 2015 10:45 PM (Dwehj) 99
The asshole thing? They are making molds of them and then casting candy, or chocolates, or jewelry of them. So, you can tell someone to eat your ass, I guess, or wear your asshole around your neck or on your hand.
Why this would be a good thing for which people would pay money escapes me entirely. Posted by: tcn in AK at January 29, 2015 10:45 PM (+YMhA) 100
Whether or not he was caught red handed with WMD is irrelevant. He had already established his willingness to use them.
Posted by: Garrett You'd think the sat photos of convoys leaving WMD sites and the 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium we recovered would count as "red handed." http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-secretly-takes-yellowcake-from-iraq/ Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at January 29, 2015 10:45 PM (GuwT9) 101
But the ZAP theory of government would only work in a small population of very like minded individuals.[/b}
...with above-average IQs. Libertarians don't recognize that there really are alot of 80s out there. Posted by: andycanuck at January 29, 2015 10:45 PM (L6/+u) 102
Uh oh.
Posted by: tcn in AK at January 29, 2015 10:46 PM (+YMhA) 103
The Left wont acknowledge any connection between illegal immigration and disease.
The Left wont acknowledge any connection between Islam and terrorism. There may be a pattern here. Posted by: cm9000 at January 29, 2015 10:47 PM (8zCR+) Posted by: OregonMuse at January 29, 2015 10:47 PM (V64xa) 105
And reason #12 why I'm not a Libertarian.
I think the Founding Fathers had it generally right. Which would make me libertarian but for the fact that modern 'libertarians' seem to feel this need to carve out a place in their philosophy for atheists. Which, say whatever you want about people's right to believe nothing if they choose, makes the concept of "God-given" rights (or obligations or prerogatives) immediately implode along with the will to actually defend them. Atheists are not the only problem, many seem to think you can believe in any God you want and still believe in God-given rights, but I can think of no one other than a Christian or Jew who would honestly believe that as no one else's culture has accepted those ideas (the whole notion of human rights has largely been watered down to at best "don't be mean to us"). Maybe some other folk find the consequences of that world view appealing, but I don't know that I'd trust anyone who wasn't secure in their place in eternity having my back to the death if the time comes. Having made that observation and noting that modern 'libertarians' are therefore not the Founders' progeny, I found myself more critical of their other positions, and without reading the linked article, the flaw in their foreign policy views are pretty obvious. Namely, only Americans actually believe this stuff, and the whole reason we have "America" is our mutual agreement to look out for each other. Which necessarily means we give preference to the interests of our people over foreigners. And we do whatever is necessary to keep the rest of the world's madness at bay. Posted by: Methos at January 29, 2015 10:47 PM (A6vWB) 106
You can't transplant an anus.
That's ridiculous. Posted by: eleven Yes you can. That's how the conservatives ended up with RHINOS in the same political party. Posted by: fairweatherbill holding dominion over the nether regions at January 29, 2015 10:47 PM (J6jNv) 107
Hi Horde,
I was all dressed & had makeup on to go out but only to go to bakery & know I couldn't pull over into bus stop. More snow is forecast in Boston area starting at midnight & should be w/in the hour. There are mountains on my street of snow. I'm sure it was this bad before but I was off to park in garage & didn't care. Parking on streets is different. Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2015 10:47 PM (sj3Ax) 108
The Barrell will be well fed today.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2015 10:47 PM (p4Ll/) 109
There's a joke about the guy who, asked how to get to some destination, answers, "You shouldn't be starting from here."
That's pretty much what big-L libertarians have to offer on foreign policy these days. Posted by: JPS at January 29, 2015 10:47 PM (9ziuC) 110
how many times does it toke to wear out a bunghole?
10? 100? 1,000? is a wore out bunghole not pleasurable or just leak? ?? Posted by: # key at January 29, 2015 10:48 PM (N21UI) 111
>>>Libertarians don't recognize that there really are alot of 80s out there.
That's what the DoRight Stick is for. Even the dumbest can learn if stupidity is painful. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 10:48 PM (e+1S5) 112
I'm doing a little one woman boycott of NBC over that foreign correspondent committing outright slander of Kyle. I know they've done worse things in terms of overall harm to the country as the commie's P/R branch but I'm taking this one little thing personally.
Posted by: PaleRider at January 29, 2015 10:48 PM (dkExz) 113
Somebody on this blog, I cannot remember whom, remarked that nowadays, liberals (for the most part) are the *prudes*.
Posted by: Thrawn at January 29, 2015 10:49 PM (d7XFS) 114
Yeah, libertarianism is not an evolutionarily stable strategy.
I love the open borders libertarians who somehow are unable to see that what that inevitably leads to is the end of libertarianism as parasites move in and take over democratically. They somehow think there will always be this libertarian ruling class left in charge. Nope. That's not how things work. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 10:49 PM (ZPrif) Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 10:49 PM (K8c3j) 116
That's what the DoRight Stick is for. Even the dumbest can learn if stupidity is painful.
Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 10:48 PM (e+1S5) Rubber Hose of Righteous Correction Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 29, 2015 10:50 PM (GEICT) 117
106 You can't transplant an anus.
------- My boss was an asshole at a different company before coming to his current position Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 10:50 PM (K4xGQ) 118
don't be silly
of course you can transplant an anus why I heard of one go from Indonesia to the White House Posted by: ThunderB, Official Bergdahl Face Puncher at January 29, 2015 10:50 PM (zOTsN) 119
Rubber Hose of Righteous Correction
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 29, 2015 10:50 PM (GEICT) wood shampoo ? Posted by: # key at January 29, 2015 10:50 PM (N21UI) 120
37
TX Judge Refuses to Toss Rick Perry Indictment The biggest mistake this country ever made was not to arrest the Supreme Court justices in the majority for "Roe v Wade". When they concocted a "penumbra" of the Constitution, they arrogated to themselves the right to define that penumbra. They became legislators. They attempted a coup against the Congress, and called out the President. Eisenhower, in not challenging this ruling, revealed himself as a Stalinist. He'd fight Nazis; but he wouldn't fight a domestic insurrection, not if its cause was righteous in his own eyes. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 29, 2015 10:29 PM (AVEe1) Actually, Patterico has a later post where he goes through and basically says, "the judge just told the parties that they had to say certain specific things for him to be able to proceed with or toss this case" -- and expects that the parties are likely going to hop to it. Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 10:50 PM (T1005) Posted by: andycanuck at January 29, 2015 10:51 PM (L6/+u) 122
"They somehow think there will always be this libertarian ruling class left in charge."
-Import millions of immigrants -? -Prosperity! Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2015 10:51 PM (p4Ll/) 123
Libertarianism would work perfectly if people were perfect.
That's the rub about any political system. Capitalism works imperfectly with an imperfect constituency. Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2015 10:52 PM (MDgS8) 124
"I love the open borders libertarians who somehow are unable to see that what that inevitably leads to is the end of libertarianism as parasites move in and take over democratically. "
That's because (many) libertarians cannot make complex connections between how certain positions contradict their larger objectives. For example, they don't seem to grasp how tearing down social structures such as the traditional family only leads to a further expansion of the welfare state. Posted by: Paul at January 29, 2015 10:52 PM (1vxz6) 125
The kommissar behavior of the SJW's, elites, and other proggies comes from the top
TFG told his cult to "get in their faces" during the 2012 campaign. All it takes is for enough people to tell these dweebs to STFU and GTFO firmly, and promise that any actions they take will be met with an equal reaction. Most of them seem to curl up into little balls when challenged and don't have the cover of the crowd. What might remove their smug attitude is to treat them like any other herd. Look for those who wander a little and pick them off, or go for the leader and stir confusion and panic among the rest. Or just plain put it out there for sane people to see, and tell the sane folk that the SJW's will inevitably come after people and things THEY like, and eventually come after them personally. There's no stopping them unless they meet resistance Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2015 10:52 PM (GrXXa) Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 29, 2015 10:52 PM (GEICT) 127
I love, just love the 10 Commandments to the
Flappers. Posted by: Infidel at January 29, 2015 10:52 PM (PP90u) 128
"My boss was an asshole at a different company before coming to his current position"
The exception that disproves the rule. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2015 10:52 PM (p4Ll/) Posted by: Ian Galt at January 29, 2015 10:53 PM (dmepw) 130
Now in theory there are all kinds of differences and distinctions between the two - but in practice most Libertarians have bought into the blame-America-first, war-never-solved-anything, the-world-will-leave-us-alone-if-we-leave-them-alone but-we-still-totally-support-the-troops views of left.
What it comes down to is that a lot of libertarians have a bug up their ass not so much about government as about the American government. I don't like saying that, because I'm on the libertarian side of the conservative spectrum--but if we're opposing a brutal foreign dictatorship, if we're opposing ones that have threatened us (I'm talking about Iraq here, but foreign dictators in general) and you don't root for the U.S., but find yourself making excuses for the other side, you don't have a principled anti-government stance. Posted by: AD at January 29, 2015 10:53 PM (GbSgH) 131
yo RINOs in a box
and for you a poem cause I'm a giver roses are red violets are blue AoS commenters are rethugikkkants RACIST!!!! fini Posted by: ncj at January 29, 2015 10:53 PM (/2Qtx) 132
Libertarianism would work great in a society consisting almost entirely of men with an IQ above 115 or so. In the real world, not so much.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 10:54 PM (ZPrif) 133
but I'm taking this one little thing personally.
Posted by: PaleRider at January 29, 2015 10:48 PM (dkExz) So are the families of many, many vets, each of whom have been slandered. When doing ones duty becomes a "killing spree", we're back to viet-nam levels of anti-soldier hate. It shouldn't have a venue, much less an audience. Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2015 10:54 PM (XmOA9) 134
they found the ten commandments for flappers folded up in Huckabee's wallet
Posted by: ThunderB, Official Bergdahl Face Puncher at January 29, 2015 10:54 PM (zOTsN) 135
typo "I'm *not* talking about Iraq here, but foreign dictators in general"
Posted by: AD at January 29, 2015 10:54 PM (GbSgH) 136
>>>> 32 So: tomorrow.
I hope, beyond all hope, beyond all prayers, that I have an allergic reaction to the local anesthetic, and don't get up out of that chair. 3:33 sounds like a nice time and a nice number. Best possible ending to this idiotic story. Well, this all sucks. So sorry, really sorry. I'm hoping you survive tomorrow and get back home to Leela. Posted by: L, elle at January 29, 2015 10:54 PM (2x3L+) 137
Anarchy would work if people were perfect.
Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2015 10:54 PM (MDgS8) 138
Posted by: ncj at January 29, 2015 10:53 PM (/2Qtx)
That was some damn bullshit. You didn't even shoot a dog or chokehold a youth of indeterminate origin. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 29, 2015 10:55 PM (GEICT) 139
Were Alvin York and Audie Murphy racist spree killers?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2015 10:33 PM (W5DcG) No, they were killing Republicans, so it's acceptable. John Basilone on the other hand was racistly spree-killing members of a beautiful, exotic, ancient culture. Posted by: Average Moonbat at January 29, 2015 10:55 PM (nL0sw) 140
I love the open borders libertarians who somehow are unable to see that what that inevitably leads to is the end of libertarianism as parasites move in and take over democratically. They somehow think there will always be this libertarian ruling class left in charge. Nope. That's not how things work.
Posted by: Costanza Defense Describing people as parasites isn't the best formulation of a response in a debate with a libertarian as you know and mostly likely don't care. The problem is that under libertarianism and under the flat version of socialism, cultures and people are interchangeable units and environments. None better than another, all just watch parts that work no matter what. That's where the Reason crew careens off the course of reality into the Unicorn Sky Realm. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2015 10:55 PM (Zi7PZ) 141
Costanza Defense do you have an e-mail I can get in touch with you at? I would like to ask you some things about the media.
Posted by: cm9000 at January 29, 2015 10:55 PM (8zCR+) 142
A lot of Libertarians *are* the 80s.
Perhaps their judgment is clouded by something. Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 29, 2015 10:56 PM (9BRsg) 143
The biggest mistake this country ever made was not to arrest the Supreme Court justices in the majority for "Roe v Wade".
When they concocted a "penumbra" of the Constitution, they arrogated to themselves the right to define that penumbra. They became legislators. They attempted a coup against the Congress, and called out the President. Eisenhower, in not challenging this ruling, revealed himself as a Stalinist. He'd fight Nazis; but he wouldn't fight a domestic insurrection, not if its cause was righteous in his own eyes. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 29, 2015 10:29 PM (AVEe1) Wow. In one post, you managed to incorporate so much specious reasoning that I will never be able to take anything you write at face value again. It's not because I love Roe v. Wade; I don't. But your fixation on the word "penumbra", which was just a rhetorical device employed by one justice and merely intended to describe normal judicial interpretative activity, is the first warning sign. Plus, it was used in Griswold v. Connecticut and not Roe v. Wade. And your indictment of zombie Eisenhower (who at the time of Roe v. Wade had been dead for four years), is just the icing on this cake of wacky. If this was Friday I would be more sympathetic (end of the week, WooHoo and all), but you're not supposed to be this far off base on a Thursday night. Posted by: CQD at January 29, 2015 10:56 PM (2dzsA) 144
Hussein didn't have post 1991 WMD. He had nothing to do with 9/11 and he was not aligned with al quaeda.
He was a sponsor of terrorism in that he was paying palestinian suicide bombers (rather their families) $25k a pop, quite publicly. And the appropriate response to 9/11 then and now is to end anyone with islamist sympathies. Posted by: Methos at January 29, 2015 10:56 PM (A6vWB) 145
129 Oh, the 10 Commandments for FLAPPERS, not fappers.
I must be going blind. Posted by: Ian Galt at January 29, 2015 10:53 PM (dmepw) I warned you, son, but would you listen? Oh no, of course not! Posted by: Ian Galt's Dad at January 29, 2015 10:56 PM (mx5oN) 146
Oh, and I guess some rapper dude killed somebody.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 10:56 PM (ZPrif) 147
So I guess the next fight for this President is 'fixing' the broadband inequality...
Gadzooks what fiends these fiends are. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 29, 2015 10:56 PM (+6nI6) 148
You're a neocon because you were inclined to ever agree with Andrew Sullivan. That early love reveals your true beliefs.
Posted by: Dogbert at January 29, 2015 10:57 PM (RDM9U) 149
>>>So I gotta say, I'm starting my third episode of Archer.
Current season? I fell behind a bit, but it started out promising for the first episode or two. Not *good* by objective standards, but Moron-level snark. I really liked Archer interacting with the WWII Japanese soldier. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 10:57 PM (e+1S5) 150
Hussein didn't have post 1991 WMD. He had nothing to do with 9/11 and he was not aligned with al quaeda. These are indisputable facts and if this makes me a libtard in the eyes of some keyboard warriors then so be it. Posted by: Wj at January 29, 2015 10:37 PM (0Hy2G) Thank goodness for your point of view that ISIS is killing all the Kurdish witnesses to the gassings. So, party on, dude. See who meets you in Hell. Posted by: Kindltot at January 29, 2015 10:57 PM (t//F+) 151
-Import millions of immigrants -? -Prosperity! Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2015 10:51 PM (p4Ll/) All sorts of libertarian foreigners Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 10:57 PM (K4xGQ) 152
Hmm...this is an interesting tidbit:
District Judge Bert Richardson, the judge in Perry's case...was appointed a District Court Judge in 1999. Who was governor in 1999? ...GW Bush. Now, that was a different District Court than the one he now presides over. And Richardson was elected last year to his current judicial position. But still, the tie to Bush is...interesting. It's no secret that the Bushes don't like Perry and would like to see him knocked out of the running for 2016. Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2015 10:57 PM (hX3bN) 153
So, "Wj" one and done.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2015 10:58 PM (p4Ll/) Posted by: # key at January 29, 2015 10:58 PM (N21UI) 155
Oh, the 10 Commandments for FLAPPERS, not fappers.
I must be going blind. Thread winner. (Is that you, ace?) Posted by: andycanuck at January 29, 2015 10:58 PM (L6/+u) 156
He was a sponsor of terrorism in that he was paying palestinian suicide bombers (rather their families) $25k a pop, quite publicly. And the appropriate response to 9/11 then and now is to end anyone with islamist sympathies.
Posted by: Methos at January 29, 2015 10:56 PM (A6vWB) And was harboring fugitive terrorists. Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2015 10:58 PM (nL0sw) 157
I'm hoping you survive tomorrow and get back home to Leela.
Posted by: L, elle at January 29, 2015 10:54 PM (2x3L+) Oh for goodness sakes - look, despair is the one vice I see too many indulge in and is the one I dislike the most. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 29, 2015 10:58 PM (g+akU) 158
Nah, I don't really do email much. If you ask your question here, I'm sure others know more than I do.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 10:58 PM (ZPrif) 159
I warned you, son, but would you listen? Oh no, of course not!
Posted by: Ian Galt's Dad at January 29, 2015 10:56 PM (mx5oN) Ha! Reminds me of the old jokead walks into the son's bedroom and yells, "Quit fapping or you will go blind!"The son says, "I"m over here, Dad." Posted by: Ian Galt at January 29, 2015 10:58 PM (dmepw) 160
Wj one and done.
Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2015 10:58 PM (MDgS8) 161
is a wore out bunghole not pleasurable or just leak?
?? Posted by: # key at January 29, 2015 10:48 PM (N21UI) I read through the entire thread and this is what I am answering? They leak. and there is a real product being made for such problems. https://www.butterfly.com/butterfly-body-liners/ Posted by: Jen the original at January 29, 2015 10:59 PM (peLB8) 162
If this was Friday I would be more sympathetic (end of the week, WooHoo and all), but you're not supposed to be this far off base on a Thursday night.
Posted by: CQD at January 29, 2015 10:56 PM (2dzsA) Heh. That's a candidate for comment of the day.. Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 10:59 PM (pAlYe) 163
Watched 2nd ep of Justified last night. Anyone notice the pattern? Every season but the first is the same, just plug in different characters. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 10:59 PM (K8c3j) 164
YNot why are they in the 80s? as though they are in a cloud, a fog deep and dense, a smoky darkness that provides no illumination but leaves one hungry, a haze. And a longing for cheetos and tie dye shirts
Posted by: ThunderB, Official Bergdahl Face Puncher at January 29, 2015 10:59 PM (zOTsN) 165
147: Anna, let him be clear, he just wants to make things fair. When he gets done, we will be lucky to have two tin cans and some string.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 29, 2015 10:59 PM (ucDmr) 166
I still don't know wtf the term 'NeoCon' means.
I've seen multiple definitions of the term. And they all seem sort of made-up if you ask me. Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2015 10:59 PM (hX3bN) 167
I agree that Libertarian foreign policy is the biggest stumbling block to integrating them into a broader Tea Party/limited government conservative movement. Blaming America first, anti-"imperialism," conspiracy theories and antisemitism are their shared pathologies with the Left. There are allies to be found among them, but they're like my grandma's brownie recipe. You have to sort out the nuts first, and by the time you're done, you wonder if it was worth the effort. I'm willing to try, but I often feel it's a one-sided effort.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at January 29, 2015 10:59 PM (QKIQb) Posted by: Ian Galt at January 29, 2015 11:00 PM (dmepw) 169
They leak. and there is a real product being made for such problems.
https://www.butterfly.com/butterfly-body-liners/ Posted by: Jen the original [Updates bookmarks] Posted by: Queen Barry I at January 29, 2015 11:00 PM (GuwT9) 170
Current season? I fell behind a bit, but it started out promising for the first episode or two. Not *good* by objective standards, but Moron-level snark.
I really liked Archer interacting with the WWII Japanese soldier. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 10:57 PM (e+1S5) Yeah, current season. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 29, 2015 11:00 PM (GEICT) Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:00 PM (K8c3j) 172
148 You're a neocon because you were inclined to ever agree with Andrew Sullivan. That early love reveals your true beliefs.
Posted by: Dogbert at January 29, 2015 10:57 PM (RDM9U) DING! Current total: 1 Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:00 PM (pAlYe) 173
*drags out comment from morning thread to address the person oh so concerned - "WJ you ignorant slut." *
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 29, 2015 11:01 PM (+6nI6) 174
"hether or not he was caught red handed with WMD is irrelevant. He had already established his willingness to use them.
Posted by: Garrett You'd think the sat photos of convoys leaving WMD sites and the 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium we recovered would count as "red handed." http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-secretly-takes-yellowcake-from-iraq/ Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible" Bush shouldn't have even discussed WMDs, just built up the force, issued press release on the cease fire violations, and attacked. Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:01 PM (ztOda) 175
I miss the rape rooms most of all.
Posted by: Ude Hussein at January 29, 2015 11:01 PM (7+hc/) 176
>>> Oh for goodness sakes - look, despair is the one vice I see too many indulge in and is the one I dislike the most.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 29, 2015 10:58 PM (g+akU) I guess you have never felt despair or known anyone else who has. Posted by: L, elle at January 29, 2015 11:02 PM (2x3L+) Posted by: Brother Cavil, by the Pale Moon light at January 29, 2015 11:02 PM (m9V0o) 178
is a wore out bunghole not pleasurable or just leak?
?? Posted by: # key at January 29, 2015 10:48 PM (N21UI) I read through the entire thread and this is what I am answering? They leak. and there is a real product being made for such problems. https://www.butterfly.com/butterfly-body-liners/ Posted by: Jen the original at January 29, 2015 10:59 PM (peLB This could also mostly be solved by not consuming Olestra and by abstaining from teh frequent butt secks, but mostly by abstaining from teh frequent butt secks. Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2015 11:02 PM (nL0sw) 179
Libertarian political dreams died because pot.
Posted by: Redshirt at January 29, 2015 11:02 PM (Ae09I) 180
161 is a wore out bunghole not pleasurable or just leak?
?? Posted by: # key at January 29, 2015 10:48 PM (N21UI) I read through the entire thread and this is what I am answering? They leak. and there is a real product being made for such problems. https://www.butterfly.com/butterfly-body-liners/ Posted by: Jen the original at January 29, 2015 10:59 PM (peLB I'm not just a shareholder. I'm also a customer. Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at January 29, 2015 11:02 PM (mx5oN) 181
166 I still don't know wtf the term 'NeoCon' means.
I've seen multiple definitions of the term. And they all seem sort of made-up if you ask me. Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2015 10:59 PM (hX3bN) As best I can tell the current meaning seems to be Jew and/or someone to the right that I disagree with. Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:03 PM (pAlYe) 182
>>>is a wore out bunghole not pleasurable or just leak?
?? Posted by: # key at January 29, 2015 10:48 PM (N21UI) I have actual real world witnessed evidence that it is the latter. Thanks for bringing that memory up from the pits of hell. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:03 PM (e+1S5) Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2015 11:03 PM (hX3bN) 184
For those who are concerned about such leakage as they hold signs to save the Earth... there is a natural product to solve that problem.
Its called a rubber stopper. See if they fall for it. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 29, 2015 11:03 PM (+6nI6) 185
176 >>> Oh for goodness sakes - look, despair is the one vice I see too many indulge in and is the one I dislike the most.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 29, 2015 10:58 PM (g+akU) I guess you have never felt despair or known anyone else who has. Posted by: L, elle at January 29, 2015 11:02 PM (2x3L+) Deep dark depression, excessive misery! Posted by: Insomniac at January 29, 2015 11:03 PM (mx5oN) 186
"Anyone notice the pattern? Every season but the first is the same, just plug in different characters."
Taking a HUGE kick in the balls here, but, I watched the first couple seasons and just sorta lost interest. After a while I just didn't care. Tim Olyphant will always be Seth Bullock to me. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2015 11:04 PM (p4Ll/) 187
There really was a group of hard-core left-wingers, actual marxists and stuff, who recoiled from the excesses of the Left in the 60s and became a new type of conservative -- a neo-conservative.
And many of them were Jews. Overtime this became conflated to the point that neocon became a slur for Jew or just right-wing Jew. And then in the 2000s it became just a slur for "people I don't like". Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 11:04 PM (ZPrif) 188
I wasn't too interested in second & third episodes of season 3 of Boardwalk Empire & let them stay on, four was better & now I'm watching episode 5.
Don't trash place Horde! Maetenloch, Thank you for content. I've been switching between Mercury & Safari bt prowlers on my iPad. Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2015 11:04 PM (sj3Ax) 189
Just pushing another HQ meme, Ian Galt, and the compliment was genuine.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 29, 2015 11:04 PM (L6/+u) 190
It's not like Bush didn't take a year and a ducking day to commit, either. Thanks to his fear of political reprisal, we dithered for fucking ages before we attacked.
There was no way 100% of Hussein's stockpiles were still in place. Nor was there any reason to believe they would be after all the time we wasted with the fucking UN. Posted by: Ude Hussein at January 29, 2015 11:04 PM (7+hc/) 191
Christ - "I'm an American and Obama and the Lefties - woe is me, despair, despair - all is gloom and doom." or whatever is the current flavor.
Man, do I hate that stuff! I gotta go to bed, but if there was one thing I would love to wake up to is the AoSHQ Horde dropping Despair as their go-to emotion. What Would Reagan Say to that (WWRS) if he read any of this? Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 29, 2015 11:04 PM (g+akU) 192
And DC once again alludes to him bonking Sandra Flook...
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 29, 2015 11:04 PM (+6nI6) 193
Nah, I don't really do email much. If you ask your question here, I'm sure others know more than I do.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 10:58 PM (ZPrif) Thats cool. I thought you might be a media insider and was looking for that kind of insight. Posted by: cm9000 at January 29, 2015 11:05 PM (8zCR+) 194
Hillary was one of the ones who proclaimed that "Sadam Hussein has WMDs!"
Posted by: wheat Bill and his entire cabinet also proclaimed it in 1998 when they started bombing Iraq to take Monica off the front page. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at January 29, 2015 11:05 PM (GuwT9) 195
127 times on the Neo-con, you dirty neo-con.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 29, 2015 11:05 PM (+Fae7) 196
The night and thread are young lest ye speak o the dreaded leaking of bungholes.
Leaky poopies no bueno. Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2015 11:05 PM (MDgS8) 197
>>> Deep dark depression, excessive misery!
Posted by: Insomniac at January 29, 2015 11:03 PM (mx5oN) Yeah, all one big funny joke! Posted by: L, elle at January 29, 2015 11:05 PM (2x3L+) 198
I read that some believe neocon is actually a code word for politically conservative jew
Posted by: ThunderB, Official Bergdahl Face Puncher at January 29, 2015 11:06 PM (zOTsN) 199
>>>Yeah, current season.
I guess I'll watch some. And drink some more. Bourbon stores are running dangerously low. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:06 PM (e+1S5) 200
Here's my reading habit for Reason --
1. Ice cream 2. Ice cream 3. Oh fuck, it's Caca Day 4. Forget I have Reason link for a month or two 5. Hope for ice cream, maybe get it. 6. GOTO 1. Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2015 11:06 PM (9KY3c) 201
138 You didn't even shoot a dog or chokehold a youth of indeterminate origin.
I know I need the epic suckatude of a Chicago sports team to fuel me i'll be back to normal come april Posted by: ncj at January 29, 2015 11:06 PM (/2Qtx) 202
If you profess to support the troops, you must also support their mission. The two are intrinsic. To do otherwise is saying DIRECTLY TO THEIR FACES you consider their effort and sacrifice meaningless. Posted by: irongrampa at January 29, 2015 11:06 PM (jeCnD) 203
181 166 I still don't know wtf the term 'NeoCon' means.
I've seen multiple definitions of the term. And they all seem sort of made-up if you ask me. Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2015 10:59 PM (hX3bN) As best I can tell the current meaning seems to be Jew and/or someone to the right that I disagree with. Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:03 PM (pAlYe) --------- Heh. So it's bullshit? ...I thought so. Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2015 11:06 PM (hX3bN) 204
and then there is Laurie Mylroie's Study of Revenge
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:06 PM (ztOda) 205
197 >>> Deep dark depression, excessive misery!
Posted by: Insomniac at January 29, 2015 11:03 PM (mx5oN) Yeah, all one big funny joke! Posted by: L, elle at January 29, 2015 11:05 PM (2x3L+) Eh, I just really liked Hee Haw. Posted by: Insomniac at January 29, 2015 11:06 PM (mx5oN) 206
Hey, all.
not sure if it's frozen fingers or calluses, but have a hard tim typing on the phone... Great ONT, Maet (except maybe for that anal bleaching? pic). Posted by: shredded chi at January 29, 2015 11:07 PM (FuAhx) 207
167. .....pathologies with the Left. There are allies to be found among them, but they're like my grandma's brownie recipe. You have to sort out the nuts first, and by the time you're done, you wonder if it was worth the effort. I'm willing to try, but I often feel it's a one-sided effort.
----- I think Steyn is right, the Libertarians are a gallon of shit. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (K4xGQ) 208
69
Hussein didn't have post 1991 WMD. He had nothing to do with 9/11 and he was not aligned with al quaeda. These are indisputable facts and if this makes me a libtard in the eyes of some keyboard warriors then so be it. We won't win anything with more of the same old bad ideas from guys like bush 2, Cheney and McCain. Defend our borders and quit worrying about the Iraqi borders Posted by: Wj at January 29, 2015 10:37 PM (0Hy2G) Saddam had plenty of WMD (chemical) post-1991.....because everybody does. Most water-treatment systems use chlorine and many pesticides are so closely related to war gasses that chemists must "lean-on" the reactions to keep them from going the wrong way (e.g. "while you're making diazanon, you have to keep the reaction cooler than -15 degrees C, 'cause you'll make sarin at room temperature" [fictitious example]). And they've been discovering and blowing-up stuff ever since the invasion. But it doesn't make you a libtard to believe otherwise....it just makes you uninformed. Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (T1005) 209
206 Hey, all.
not sure if it's frozen fingers or calluses, but have a hard tim typing on the phone... Great ONT, Maet (except maybe for that anal bleaching? pic). Posted by: shredded chi at January 29, 2015 11:07 PM (FuAhx) Anal molding, apparently. Posted by: Insomniac at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (mx5oN) 210
Fun game for those playing along at home: Whoever can most accurately guess how many times I will be called a neo-con tonight (before 6am EST)
One hundred meeellion beeellion! Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (zrPCO) 211
By the end of the anti-neocon peak in 2008, the face of the hated neo-cons was Dick Cheney, a not especially religious Methodist and strong defense, libertarian-ish Western Conservative.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (ZPrif) 212
202,
I got that from my family all the time. Which is why I have nothing to do with them. I told them what they could do with their yellow ribbons. Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (OsWis) 213
>>> Posted by: Insomniac at January 29, 2015 11:06 PM (mx5oN)
The reference was before my time so it went over my head. Thanks for clarifying. Sorry for the sarcastic reply by me Posted by: L, elle at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (2x3L+) 214
wheatie @ 166 - NeoCon = Joooo.
Posted by: Butch at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (HLx1C) 215
So if someone said you could have
- MUCH MUCH lower taxes - a hell of a lot less govt spending - more or less unlimited gun rights - true free market health care - no more welfare - no more dept of education and along with that, a reduction in the military and no more wars overseas, unless we are attacked first You'd say no? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (0LHZx) 216
I guess I'll watch some. And drink some more. Bourbon stores are running dangerously low.
Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:06 PM (e+1S5) Damn man, how much you drinking if the stores are low??? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (GEICT) 217
Geeze. I've never torn down an AK..., but that thing has LOTS of parts. Kalashnikov did a good job. One would think that the gun would be sensitive to dirt, but apparently, it takes a licking, and keeps on ticking.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2015 11:09 PM (vPh3W) 218
Null, hang in there. One day at a time. Find something, anything, to look forward to. The ONT, por ejemple!
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:09 PM (Pauop) 219
Fun game for those playing along at home: Whoever can most accurately guess how many times I will be called a neo-con tonight (before 6am EST)
0.0 Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2015 11:09 PM (Zi7PZ) 220
Actually, do they specifically have to say neocon or will they also get dinged by calingl you a warmonger?
Posted by: The Dude at January 29, 2015 11:09 PM (SyKbw) 221
someone to the right that I disagree with.
Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:03 PM (pAlYe) I've been called a neocon in the past by lefties simply because I was conservative. They never really knew how to respond to assertion that I was not a neocon, rather I was a "vetuscon." Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2015 11:09 PM (nL0sw) 222
I'm come over to the side of wishing for SMOD. It's time.
Posted by: Northernlurker aka Easybake at January 29, 2015 11:09 PM (AkoL+) 223
213 >>> Posted by: Insomniac at January 29, 2015 11:06 PM (mx5oN)
The reference was before my time so it went over my head. Thanks for clarifying. Sorry for the sarcastic reply by me Posted by: L, elle at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (2x3L+) No worries. Now get off my lawn! Posted by: Insomniac at January 29, 2015 11:09 PM (mx5oN) 224
The WMD premise was just one of the listed reasons for OIF.
In Great Britain, however, Tony Blair used is more intensely. As is their wont, the US Media frequently apes what is "hot"in the UK. So as Tony Baloney in the UK caught a lot of heat over those "nonexistent" WMD's (of which there was actually quite a bit), through cognitive transferrence, the US took up the bit in their mouths and ran with it. Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... after dark at January 29, 2015 11:09 PM (+1T7c) 225
The WMD premise was just one of the listed reasons for OIF.
In Great Britain, however, Tony Blair used is more intensely. As is their wont, the US Media frequently apes what is "hot"in the UK. So as Tony Baloney in the UK caught a lot of heat over those "nonexistent" WMD's (of which there was actually quite a bit), through cognitive transferrence, the US took up the bit in their mouths and ran with it. Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... after dark at January 29, 2015 11:09 PM (+1T7c) Posted by: butt-welded pipe spammer at January 29, 2015 11:10 PM (tdmtT) 227
When people accuse me of being a neo-con, I say I'm not Jewish and start unbuckling my pant so see if they want to check.
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:10 PM (ztOda) Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:10 PM (OsWis) 229
No, I have some friends who work in the media and I'm a news junkie so I've absorbed some info. But I'm not a well-placed insider. My info is public. I read industry blogs like TVNewser.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 11:10 PM (ZPrif) 230
Yeah, all one big funny joke!
Posted by: L, elle at January 29, 2015 11:05 PM (2x3L+) Til someone loses an eye! Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2015 11:10 PM (XmOA9) 231
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Why in hell.... would anyone.... want someone to make a mold of their asshole? As if it isn't humiliating enough to show it off to someone you hardly know.... Okay, this is the sign of the end times, sure as hell. Posted by: tcn in AK at January 29, 2015 10:41 PM (+YMhA) And how could you ever clean the mold well enough to want to eat candies made in it? Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 11:10 PM (T1005) 232
if you search "is neo-con code for jew" you get 29 million hits. 29 million
Posted by: ThunderB, Official Bergdahl Face Puncher at January 29, 2015 11:11 PM (zOTsN) 233
Bush shouldn't have even discussed WMDs, just built up the force, issued
press release on the cease fire violations, and attacked. WMDs were never that important to the argument. There were a dozen other reasons regarding Saddam's behavior (from the assassination attempt on his father to firing on our planes in the no-fly zone in violation of the cease-fire agreement) any one of which was justification for violently ending him. WMDs only came up because Tony Blair desperately wanted another UN resolution (that I don't think he got because everyone knew the war was on anyway), and that was the case the UN was thought to want to hear. But because there were no mobile weapons labs (and despite all the tons and tons of actual WMDs) "We were lied into war". And the re-war in Iraq's opponents simply ignored all the rest. Posted by: Methos at January 29, 2015 11:11 PM (A6vWB) Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 29, 2015 11:11 PM (+6nI6) 235
Posted by: Paul at January 29, 2015 10:52 PM (1vxz6)
Which is why there is also a subset of closed border Libertarians... because we understand that it is not our business to fix them... they need to fix their own damn countries. Just like there are pro defense Libertarians... who while we do not like the current micro intervention policies of trying to fix every other country.... believes in the Total War doctrine if you attack us. Just like there are pro LIFE Libertarians, like myself, because if we grant that Human have Natural Rights... then that fetus who IS alive, has the same God Given Right to Life Liberty and the Persuit of Happiness I have... Problem is that my brand of Libertarianism.... does not have money behind it... and thus has no venue... so no one ever hears our Ideas.... Posted by: BB Wolf at January 29, 2015 11:11 PM (qh617) 236
By the end of the anti-neocon peak in 2008, the face of the hated neo-cons was Dick Cheney, a not especially religious Methodist and strong defense, libertarian-ish Western Conservative.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (ZPrif) I was just going to say that I thought the War Cock was the Penultimate Neo-Con. I had a sort of vague opinion that they were your basic war-mongering types. I had no idea it was a code word for the shape shifters. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:11 PM (Pauop) 237
198 I read that some believe neocon is actually a code word for politically conservative jew
Posted by: ThunderB, Official Bergdahl Face Puncher at January 29, 2015 11:06 PM (zOTsN) Maetenlochstein, cob & neocon Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 11:11 PM (K4xGQ) 238
Shallow-ish Reason (get it?) I'm not a Libertarian: the insufferable smug. Case in point: worst podcast guest evar (IMO): Nick "Leather Jacket" Gillespie.
Other Reason: I find them to be unrealistic/delusional about human nature, just like leftists. (People have given examples above.) But at least they're not totalitarians like the leftists. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 29, 2015 11:11 PM (oa/c7) 239
After the last two presidential elections, I was sick and tired of the GOP. Libertarianism sounded great at first listen, but I just can't support the foreign policy stance that so often comes from that philosophy.
Many hard-core libertarians put too much trust in the inherent goodness of man. I've already seen enough in my life to know that isn't so. So, I've come to the same conclusion DC has. Leave me the hell alone, and I'll leave you alone. Mess with me or my family...prepare for pain. Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 29, 2015 11:11 PM (rJUlF) 240
yeah, no chemical weapons in Iraq...that's why I'm constantly getting notices from the VA regarding chemical weapon exposure during 2006 at Camp Taji.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:12 PM (OsWis) 241
Big L libertarians need to take Chesterton's Fence (?) to heart.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 29, 2015 11:12 PM (oa/c7) Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:12 PM (Pauop) 243
A lot of Libertarians *are* the 80s.
Perhaps their judgment is clouded by something. Naaahhh: http://youtu.be/cGSXgztLR10 Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 29, 2015 11:12 PM (UVfht) 244
>>> No worries. Now get off my lawn!
Posted by: Insomniac at January 29, 2015 11:09 PM (mx5oN) Hey man, I wasn't on your lawn. I was going for In Your Face. I guessed I missed it. I think I should have added cuss words in my reply to you so we could have a real fight. :-) Posted by: L, elle at January 29, 2015 11:13 PM (2x3L+) 245
>>>Damn man, how much you drinking if the stores are low???
The real question is why Visa imposes these cisnormative patriarchical "limits" on my credit because I don't make enough "money"? Jeez, man, money is just a social construct, like gender. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:13 PM (e+1S5) 246
Posted by: Methos at January 29, 2015 11:11 PM (A6vWB)
^^^ THIS. People seem to forget our guys were fired upon all the time. Our MFM rarely reported it, because, well, they are communists, socialists, or useful idiots. Posted by: Ian Galt at January 29, 2015 11:13 PM (dmepw) 247
Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (T1005)
Interestingly, I was in a discussion earlier today regarding the alumnus of your school you were most embarrassed by. This was my response: http://tinyurl.com/mfzhpwl (Trigger warning: links to NYT) Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2015 11:14 PM (nL0sw) 248
Hussein didn't have post 1991 WMD.
Posted by: Wj The first UN inspections after DSI documented several liters of anthrax. Subsequent inspections and inquiries failed to document their location or disposition. Anthrax = WMD. Q to the fucking E to the fucking D. He had nothing to do with 9/11 and he was not aligned with al quaeda. The lead planner of the first World Trade Center bombing in '91 fled to Baghdad. If you want to believe that Saddam had no knowledge of his entry and residence please go ahead and let us know. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2015 11:14 PM (Zi7PZ) 249
Yeah, I had a friend pull that support the troops not the missionbullshit nome. I looked her right in the yea and asked "So you want the troops to fail?"
Posted by: Butch at January 29, 2015 11:14 PM (HLx1C) 250
I'm not a neocon. I'm a constitutionalist. Yeah that's the ticket.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 29, 2015 11:14 PM (ucDmr) 251
231 87
And how could you ever clean the mold well enough to want to eat candies made in it? Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 11:10 PM (T1005) Anus the new anise Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 11:14 PM (K4xGQ) 252
Reason and National Review should join together and become a new united magazine.
New mag name candidates: Baked Beltway Banner Stoned and Afraid Posted by: eman at January 29, 2015 11:15 PM (MQEz6) 253
I can't really give the exact reason for the term "neocon," but I can tell you exactly why the Left loves to say that certain Republicans are Neocons: Because, simply, it's a substitute for neo-nazi. When Dumb People hear neocon, they hear neo-nazi. Anything "neo" is associated with neo-nazi, and the Left knows this. It's a mind game. It's bullshit. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:15 PM (K8c3j) 254
Why do the two douchewaddiest teams have to be in the fcking Superbowl?
Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2015 11:15 PM (MDgS8) 255
>>> 230 Yeah, all one big funny joke!
Posted by: L, elle at January 29, 2015 11:05 PM (2x3L+) Til someone loses an eye! Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2015 11:10 PM (XmOA9) Okay, I got that joke at least. I managed to smile. Posted by: L, elle at January 29, 2015 11:15 PM (2x3L+) 256
[i\249 Yeah, I had a friend pull that support the troops not the missionbullshit nome. I looked her right in the yea and asked "So you want the troops to fail?"
Posted by: Butch at January 29, 2015 11:14 PM (HLx1C) [i/] I've told liberals I support the homosexuals, but not homosexual "rights," including SSM. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2015 11:15 PM (oKE6c) 257
And with the twenty some odd reasons for invading Iraq there were some leftist sources claiming during the 14-month-long "rush" to war that there were too many reasons given and you could only ever go to war over one big reason.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 29, 2015 11:15 PM (L6/+u) 258
215 So if someone said you could have
- MUCH MUCH lower taxes - a hell of a lot less govt spending - more or less unlimited gun rights - true free market health care - no more welfare - no more dept of education and along with that, a reduction in the military and no more wars overseas, unless we are attacked first You'd say no? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (0LHZx) Key words that make this a moot offer: IF and COULD. I don't believe that this offer can be realized in the real world. And the harm from its attempt and failure could be far worse than what we have currently. Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:16 PM (pAlYe) 259
Fucking eh I'm glad to be home. Fuck that bullshit snowstorm, and fuck the asshole pussies who marooned me in florida for 3 days.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2015 11:16 PM (FMbng) 260
Love the flapper commandments, too - how to be a strong, wise, self-respecting woman, the opposite of today's disgusting destructive feminism.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 29, 2015 11:16 PM (oa/c7) 261
Hussein didn't have post 1991 WMD.
Posted by: Wj Unlike Hector or MUMR this dog fled with his tail between his legs Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 11:16 PM (K4xGQ) 262
And reason #12 why I'm not a Libertarian.
Let's face it, libertarianism is intellectual masturbation. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2015 11:16 PM (oKE6c) 263
"Excuse me, but I have trouble seeing an essential difference between what Kyle did in Iraq and what Adam Lanza did at Sandy Hook Elementary School." Sheldon Richman - Reason.com Wow. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2015 11:17 PM (kdS6q) 264
So I see 'Silverback' Sullivan is once again pounding his hairy chest, as his contingent of 'power bottoms' demand satisfaction from his 'Ernst Rohm' cheesedick like offerings of uncircumcised flotilla...Freddie Mercury would have been so embarrassed by his shortcomings...!
Posted by: tbd at January 29, 2015 11:17 PM (FDXPC) 265
Howdy, Horde!
Man, I'm feeling wild tonight. So is my cat. Just got home from music rehearsal where I was rockin' out and now I'm playing fetch on the stairs with a wild-eyed cat. He's skittering all over the place. We may have the house tore up by the time my husband gets home. Posted by: Mindy at January 29, 2015 11:17 PM (81V/7) 266
Fair or unfair, the shit Sheldon Richman spewed in that Reason article is why the Libertarians remain a 1% party.
Posted by: toby928(C) trys the shorhand at January 29, 2015 11:17 PM (rwI+c) 267
and along with that, a reduction in the military and no more wars overseas, unless we are attacked first
You'd say no? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (0LHZx) Here's the problem: The vast majority of "libertarians" aren't. Most are just libertine about one thing or another, chief of which is marijuana. Hell, I think that most of those pot heads would've join the Khmer Rouge because their leader was Pol Pot. Another problem is that they tend to be stalking horses of the Left. For example, gay marriage. They claim that private businesses should be foreclose to not serve gay weddings, but that the government must marry gays. Then when we get gay marriage, they'll claim that their either "feel" out pain but won't lift a finger for H8rz, or alternatively declare that discrimination is against the law and that law should apply to everyone. Further, libertarians have something major in common with the left: They believe in a great boogie-man, which when vanquished will result in some type of utopia. I, again, recommend James FitzJames Stephens' "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" which was written in response to John Stewart Mills' "On Liberty" (Stephens was a contemporary of Mills). Additional thoughts: http://tinyurl.com/mapec2y Posted by: The Political Hat at January 29, 2015 11:17 PM (0Ew3K) 268
Hammer, http://tinyurl.com/kzbtv9w
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:17 PM (ztOda) Posted by: Tyrannasaurus Rex at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (UVfht) 270
"Excuse me, but I have trouble seeing an essential difference between what Kyle did in Iraq and what Adam Lanza did at Sandy Hook Elementary School."
Sheldon Richman - Reason.com Wow. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2015 11:17 PM (kdS6q) Maybe he needs a good pair of glasses? You really have to be kidding me. Wow, indeed. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (oa/c7) Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (MDgS8) 272
Anal molding, apparently.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (mx5oN) -------------------- Would that be an ogee? Or if you mean the dreaded "black mold" then a bleaching is certainly in order. Posted by: shredded chi at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (FuAhx) 273
Sheldon Richman - Reason.com
Wow. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2015 11:17 PM (kdS6q) And Reason magazine jumps the shark.... and just like Happy Days after Fonzi did the same, will soon go away.... Posted by: BB Wolf at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (qh617) 274
215 So if someone said you could have
- MUCH MUCH lower taxes - a hell of a lot less govt spending - more or less unlimited gun rights - true free market health care - no more welfare - no more dept of education and along with that, a reduction in the military and no more wars overseas, unless we are attacked first You'd say no? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (0LHZx) Make gravity optional and you've got a deal. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (oKE6c) 275
There really was a group of hard-core left-wingers, actual marxists and stuff, who recoiled from the excesses of the Left in the 60s and became a new type of conservative -- a neo-conservative.
This is probably the best definition. Example: David Horowitz of Frontpagemag fame. Posted by: OregonMuse at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (SNhR+) 276
The Invasion of Iraq was a strategic response to 9-11, not a tactical one.
After 9-11 you get your ass invaded not because you had anything to do with 9-11, but because we are going to make sure you can't do a future 9-11. Posted by: eman at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (MQEz6) Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:19 PM (Pauop) 278
Maet, based on the apocryphal definition of a neo-con attributed to HW, I'd say 90% of commenters here are neo-cons.*
I tend to think of McCain as the prototypical neo-con, intervention for its own sake. I consider myself a hawk--I was for Afghanistan and Iraq. I would support action against Boko Haran. But I also believe that the approach against our enemies should be total war, leading to unconditional surrender or destruction. *HW allegedly said it could be summed up in one word: Israel. Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 29, 2015 11:19 PM (Gosad) 279
"Excuse me, but I have trouble seeing an essential
difference between what Kyle did in Iraq and what Adam Lanza did at Sandy Hook Elementary School." Sheldon Richman - Reason.com Wow. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix Well, who want to argue pot isn't killing brain cells now. Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:19 PM (ztOda) 280
Well, it was more like a 12 year "rush to war" with Iraq after the 'armistice' in 1991.
A distant friend whose husband was a career Marine officer, said he was ready and expecting to go into Iraq in 1998, because it looked like it was about to get fired up, and then it passed. Yeah, that rush to war stuff. Just more Leftist propaganda tripe. Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... after dark at January 29, 2015 11:19 PM (+1T7c) 281
What would the Libertarians do if the Israelis legalized pot?
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:20 PM (ztOda) 282
Let's face it, libertarianism is intellectual masturbation.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2015 11:16 PM (oKE6c) 263 "Excuse me, but I have trouble seeing an essential difference between what Kyle did in Iraq and what Adam Lanza did at Sandy Hook Elementary School." Sheldon Richman - Reason.com A case in point. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2015 11:20 PM (oKE6c) 283
Damn man, how much you drinking if the stores are low???
Posted by: BCochran --------- Reminds me of an old joke. A guy is going out and getting drunk every night. He then routinely comes home and throws up in the kitchen sink. His wife tells him, "One night you're going to come in and literally throw your guts up." Finally, his wife becomes fed up with it, and decides to teach him a lesson. One night while he is out she dumps a mass of chicken guts in the sink. Sure enough, her husband comes staggering home, struggles to the kitchen sink and barfs. As he finishes, he sees the stuff in the sink and screams, "My god, Martha you were right, I've thrown up my guts"! "You idiot", says his wife, and yanks his head up by the hair so that he can see out of the kitchen window. Visible across town there is a brightly lit distillery. "Look!", she says, "They are are making it faster than you can possibly drink it!" The bleary husband manages to focus on the distant distillery and says, "Yeah..., but I got 'em working nights." Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2015 11:21 PM (vPh3W) 284
281 Jean -- implode.
Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2015 11:21 PM (MDgS8) 285
>>>fuck the asshole pussies who marooned me in florida for 3 days.
Let me get this straight: you were in Florida. In January. Instead of New Jersey. And you're upset about this. I'm gonna need something stronger than bourbon to square that circle. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:21 PM (e+1S5) Posted by: Insomniac at January 29, 2015 11:21 PM (mx5oN) 287
Leftists are intellectually immature. Their fantasies about fairness are childish. Libertarians and the folks at reason have the mentality of teenagers -- fucking knowitalls. They form strong opinions based on their limited world experience. Conservatives are intellectual mature. We think like adults. We acknowledge there can never be an ideal society; we realize people are no angels and never will be. So we adhere to realistic rules. Parameters, if you will, that apply to everyone. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:21 PM (K8c3j) 288
ISIS hostage swap looks doomed
Jordan demanded proof of life of the Jordanian pilot ISIS refused to give it talks look to be over Posted by: ThunderB, Official Bergdahl Face Puncher at January 29, 2015 11:21 PM (zOTsN) 289
Most are just libertine about one thing or another, chief of which is marijuana. Hell, I think that most of those pot heads would've join the Khmer Rouge because their leader was Pol Pot. "
2 sentences...one true, one funny. Nice work Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2015 11:21 PM (XmOA9) 290
Sheldon Richman SheldonRichman Who's the dunderhead who proposed to have all Jews move to Palestine? My bad. Posted by: Jehovah Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2015 11:22 PM (kdS6q) 291
Geeze. I've never torn down an AK..., but that thing has LOTS of parts. Kalashnikov did a good job. One would think that the gun would be sensitive to dirt, but apparently, it takes a licking, and keeps on ticking.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2015 11:09 PM (vPh3W) a field stripped AK is 6 or 7 parts, at least from memory Posted by: # key at January 29, 2015 11:22 PM (N21UI) 292
I was in KSA in 98. The readiness to go wasn't there - we spent two years fixing that, I believe 9/11 only delayed the invasion of Iraq.
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:22 PM (ztOda) 293
220 Actually, do they specifically have to say neocon or will they also get dinged by calingl you a warmonger?
Posted by: The Dude at January 29, 2015 11:09 PM (SyKbw) Okay I checked and the rules say it gotta be neocon and with actual insulting intent. Current Neocon Count: 1 Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:22 PM (pAlYe) 294
yeah, no chemical weapons in Iraq...that's why I'm constantly getting notices from the VA regarding chemical weapon exposure during 2006 at Camp Taji.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:12 PM (OsWis) Something something Scuds, something or other VX warheads, something found intact, this and that Marine MAGTF AO up north, something else 04-05 timeframe. But I'm just rambling here. Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2015 11:22 PM (nL0sw) 295
After 9-11 you get your ass invaded not because you had anything to do with 9-11, but because we are going to make sure you can't do a future 9-11.
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (MQEz6) Thank you. He was giving notice. He didn't do it hard enough, but I get what he was doing. The entire Middle East should be on its hands and knees thanking Allah that I was not the POTUS on Sept 12th. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:22 PM (Pauop) 296
Another problem is that they tend to be stalking horses of the Left. For example, gay marriage. They claim that private businesses should be foreclose to not serve gay weddings but that the government must marry gays.
_________ Huh? Most libertarians think the govt shroud get out of the marriage business altogether. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:22 PM (0LHZx) 297
What would the Libertarians do if the Israelis legalized pot?
They'd claim it was a plot by zionists to get more tourism money. Then they'd fly to Israel for "vacation". Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 29, 2015 11:22 PM (UVfht) Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 29, 2015 11:22 PM (oa/c7) 299
276 The Invasion of Iraq was a strategic response to 9-11, not a tactical one.
After 9-11 you get your ass invaded not because you had anything to do with 9-11, but because we are going to make sure you can't do a future 9-11. Posted by: eman at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (MQEz6) Bull's eye. Well said. That, and a message to other would-be shitbirds: you don't want us to think you might be contemplating some shit, because you might end up explaining yourself to the Marines. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2015 11:22 PM (oKE6c) 300
Part of the neo-con war-mongering slur is the claim that it's being driven by Jews who have somehow taken over America's foreign policy and use it to defend Israel's interest, which hurting America's.
This usage of the neo-con comes both from the Left and the Right - sometimes from self-decribed paleo-cons. In that world, Bush is just a useful idiot who gets led around by tricksy Joos writing NRO or The Weekly Standard. They never could explain how Cheney's might war-cock fit in since he was portrayed as the tricksy evil brain behind everything, yet obviously was not Jewish. But they just glossed over that plot hole. Irving Kristol is the godfather of neo-conservatism -- and father of William Kriston of the Weekly Standard and regular FoxNews guest. His life is where a lot of this comes from. He was a Brooklyn Jew and a Trotskyite who recoiled from the hard-Left of the Democrats in the 60s and became a conservative. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism Neoconservatism was a real thing before it became distorted insanely. Maybe it will be again as the anti-war hysteria fades. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 11:23 PM (ZPrif) 301
After 9-11 you get your ass invaded not because you had anything to do with 9-11, but because we are going to make sure you can't do a future 9-11.
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (MQEz6) Then whey the hell didn't we go after IRAN... who killed our Marines in Lebanon in 83, and were training and arming insurgents we were fighting in Afghanistan? Posted by: BB Wolf at January 29, 2015 11:23 PM (qh617) 302
"Excuse me, but I have trouble seeing an essential
difference between what Kyle did in Iraq and what Adam Lanza did at Sandy Hook Elementary School." Sheldon Richman - Reason.com -------------------- I think I see yer problem. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2015 11:23 PM (vPh3W) 303
281 What would the Libertarians do if the Israelis legalized pot?
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11 They would find something else to despise them Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 11:23 PM (K4xGQ) 304
You sound similar to me, BB Wolf - Conservative with a Libertarian Leanings is how I describe it when pushed...
And hey, cth, LJ, Mis Hum, anyone else here that occasionally talks to me when I visit. Posted by: shredded chi at January 29, 2015 11:24 PM (FuAhx) 305
heya chi
Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:24 PM (OsWis) 306
Our biggest fault has been our gross underestimation of the Left. Not only did we believe that they sincerely believed in all their causes, we ignored the fact that this immature and silly group are led by very clever and very ruthlessly ambitious people. And, today, they are in power. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:24 PM (K8c3j) 307
301 After 9-11 you get your ass invaded not because you had anything to do with 9-11, but because we are going to make sure you can't do a future 9-11.
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (MQEz6) Then whey the hell didn't we go after IRAN... who killed our Marines in Lebanon in 83, and were training and arming insurgents we were fighting in Afghanistan? Posted by: BB Wolf at January 29, 2015 11:23 PM (qh617) ____________ Or Saudi Arabia, where 15 of the 19 hijackers came from. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:24 PM (0LHZx) 308
>>>277 September 11th has been on my mind a lot lately. Not really sure why.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:19 PM (Pauop) Tammy, perhaps it's because there are so many harbingers of doom these days. Posted by: Mindy at January 29, 2015 11:24 PM (81V/7) Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:25 PM (OsWis) 310
Forgive my ignorance, but can someone define neocon, paleocon and crunchy con based on their beliefs? I looked into it briefly on Wikipedia, but they didn't get straight to the point and I got distracted.
Thanks! Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 29, 2015 11:25 PM (oa/c7) 311
a field stripped AK is 6 or 7 parts, at least from memory
Dust cover off, recoil rod and spring out, bolt and bolt carrier removed. Done. Retaining wire and two pins out and the trigger group falls out. Oh, and flip the lever and remove the the gas tube. Posted by: toby928(C) trys the shorthand at January 29, 2015 11:25 PM (rwI+c) 312
295: Tammy, wish you were. Things would be different now. Everywhere.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 29, 2015 11:25 PM (ucDmr) 313
"All entries must be received by 11:30pm EST. Not valid in CT."
Just missed it. Oh well - NEOCON! Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2015 11:25 PM (2o6Wj) Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:26 PM (K8c3j) 315
After 9-11 you get your ass invaded not because you
had anything to do with 9-11, but because we are going to make sure you can't do a future 9-11. Posted by: eman at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (MQEz6) Then whey the hell didn't we go after IRAN... who killed our Marines in Lebanon in 83, and were training and arming insurgents we were fighting in Afghanistan? Posted by: BB Wolf Because everyone was worried about the Gulf/Straits getting closed Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:26 PM (ztOda) 316
Hey chi!
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:26 PM (Pauop) 317
I'm having hard time getting used to Mercury browser on iPad.
I typed comment that I was going to ask a friend how his mother, who never smoked, was faring with chemo. Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2015 11:26 PM (sj3Ax) 318
And Tammy, my iPad has taken to correcting my spelling of your name to "Tammy!" with exclamation points.
Posted by: Mindy at January 29, 2015 11:26 PM (81V/7) 319
The 'anal candy' story made me think of the Hamburger Hot Dog commercial...
A guy is pitching his idea for a business loan...to make hot-dog-shaped hamburger patties. Doesn't sound so bad, right? But then you look at one... It looks like a big Turd on a Hot Dog bun. And no one points out that obvious aspect of it, of course. Heh. Here's the commercial. See for yourself: http://youtu.be/ZiP-GtVkBHI Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2015 11:26 PM (hX3bN) 320
I supported the invasions of Iraq and A'stan after 9-11, and as long as the main object is to remove from power or kill as many people as we can who would do us harm, I would support it again. But I don't want to hear about "nation-building", "winning hearts and minds" or "imposing democracy" on savages who want no part of it. No Muslim life is worth a single drop of American blood or a single cent of American treasure.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2015 11:27 PM (8HGb7) 321
"All entries must be received by 11:30pm EST. Not valid in CT."
Just missed it. Oh well - NEOCON! Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2015 11:25 PM Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2015 11:27 PM (vPh3W) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2015 11:27 PM (p4Ll/) 323
Mindy, you're probably right.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:27 PM (Pauop) 324
This is probably the best definition. Example: David Horowitz of Frontpagemag fame.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 29, 2015 11:18 PM (SNhR+) Yeah, the label Neo-Con should be a badge of honor but like so many things it has been corrupted by the Left. Posted by: cm9000 at January 29, 2015 11:27 PM (8zCR+) 325
Horde, don't know who sent prayers but my Aunt who was 'dead' is now the star in a documentary. Thank you.
I just hope I get a copy. Posted by: RWC Team Warthog at January 29, 2015 11:27 PM (zxCGA) 326
[\b] (just trying to avoid the barrel)
Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2015 11:27 PM (2o6Wj) 327
Evening Chi.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 11:27 PM (K4xGQ) 328
Dust cover off, recoil rod and spring out, bolt and bolt carrier removed. Done.
Retaining wire and two pins out and the trigger group falls out. Piss down barrel Oh, and flip the lever and remove the the gas tube. Posted by: toby928(C) Complete Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:28 PM (ztOda) 329
Because everyone was worried about the Gulf/Straits getting closed
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:26 PM (ztOda) I'm retired US Navy.... I spent more than 2 years of my life sitting on ships in the Persian Gulf... There is no way they could shut down the Gulf for any period of time. Posted by: BB Wolf at January 29, 2015 11:28 PM (qh617) 330
Many hard-core libertarians put too much trust in the inherent goodness of man. I've already seen enough in my life to know that isn't so. So, I've come to the same conclusion DC has. Leave me the hell alone, and I'll leave you alone. Mess with me or my family...prepare for pain. Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 29, 2015 11:11 PM (rJUlF) I had breakfast this morning with some friends, one of them said that the hardest, bitterest libertarians he knows all work for one government or another. I think there is something about that: nothing like watching leviathan eat our chirren and our liberties to make you want to do away with it, and there is nothing like waking up every day an saying "I am a class traitor" and not want to do something about it. Posted by: Kindltot at January 29, 2015 11:28 PM (t//F+) 331
Yeah, now that weed and gay marriage is a thing, Reason doesn't have much to write about except knee-jerk anti-military dickery.
Reason the Magazine sucks and is unserious stupidity. But Reason Foundation does some actual thinking about serious problems like public pension reform, infrastructure financing, privatization, etc, etc. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 11:28 PM (ZPrif) 332
153 So, "Wj" one and done.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2015 10:58 PM (p4Ll/) He did seem "concerned". Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 29, 2015 11:28 PM (+Fae7) 333
That Reason.com article us shit. I don't even feel like fighting the lies and misrepresentations anymore. My fondest wish is to put these liberal idiots and Libertarian morons in their own country, and then not do anything at all to help when they are invaded, an event which should occur within....3 months. Honestly, I just want to let idiots go idiot and reap their whirlwind.
Posted by: Weirddave at January 29, 2015 11:29 PM (WvS3w) 334
>>>That, and a message to other would-be shitbirds: you don't want us to think you might be contemplating some shit, because you might end up explaining yourself to the Marines.
Remember how Qdaffy of whatever the fuck his name was got right with Allah and turned over all his WMD stuff....when was that? Fall 03? Spring 04? I wonder what the proximal cause of that change of heart was. Realized the error of his ways? Got tired of watching the skies for a squadron of B1s? Who can say, really? Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:29 PM (e+1S5) 335
I am right there with ya, Joe. We do not need to win their hearts and minds, we need to render them null and void.
I'm done with these fuckers. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:29 PM (Pauop) Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2015 11:29 PM (Zi7PZ) 337
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 29, 2015 11:23 PM (qh617)
Because one thing at a time and Iran would be much tougher and Iran was likely protected by the Russians and the Chinese. Saudi Arabia was left untouched because money. Posted by: eman at January 29, 2015 11:30 PM (MQEz6) 338
I'm done with these fuckers.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:29 PM (Pauop) Ditto! Posted by: Ian Galt at January 29, 2015 11:30 PM (dmepw) 339
Any updates on the American getting defenstrated in Saudi?
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:30 PM (ztOda) 340
I'm invisible tonite. I'm out.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 29, 2015 11:30 PM (ucDmr) Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:30 PM (Pauop) 342
I was all for Iraq too. I bought into the bullshit. Rah, rah rah, USA, USA!! Fuck the French!! And I also bought into the "if you oppose the war you're a communist America hater" bullshit. I actually lost a good friend because he was very vocally opposed to the war and, well, he must be a communist asshole who loves the Taliban, right?
I learned my lesson. War is necessary sometimes. Afghanistan was. At least the initial part of it going after the Taliban. All the nation building bullshit was a waste of American lives and money. Iraq...complete waste of American lives and money. I know, I know, I hate America. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:31 PM (0LHZx) 343
Libertarians want to govt to get outta the marriage business is the Biggest Load Of Horseshit I Have Ever Heard. Because if they really believed this, Libertarians would be spitting mad over how the Left has used the Courts and Legislatures to delve balls deep into the marriage business, all the way to the alters. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:31 PM (K8c3j) 344
>>>A guy is pitching his idea for a business loan...to make hot-dog-shaped hamburger patties.
Doesn't sound so bad, right? But then you look at one... It looks like a big Turd on a Hot Dog bun. <<< That. Sounds. Hideous. Here, have a Double Down Dog (hot dog wrapped in a fried chicken bun). Posted by: Jake from Kentucky Fried Chicken at January 29, 2015 11:31 PM (tdmtT) 345
I wonder what the proximal cause of that change of heart was. Realized the error of his ways? Got tired of watching the skies for a squadron of B1s? Who can say, really?
Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:29 PM (e+1S5) A good long hug by someone who finally understood? Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 29, 2015 11:31 PM (oa/c7) 346
I wonder what the proximal cause of that change of heart was. Realized the error of his ways? Got tired of watching the skies for a squadron of B1s? Who can say, really?
Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:29 PM (e+1S5) A good long hug by someone who finally understood? Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 29, 2015 11:31 PM (oa/c7) 347
chavez, why for you go???
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:31 PM (Pauop) 348
"A guy is pitching his idea for a business loan...to make hot-dog-shaped hamburger patties."
Whatever happened to the Roman Burger from Mr. Hero? ( no relation) Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2015 11:31 PM (2o6Wj) 349
Then whey the hell didn't we go after IRAN...
who killed our Marines in Lebanon in 83, and were training and arming insurgents we were fighting in Afghanistan? Posted by: BB Wolf at January 29, 2015 11:23 PM (qh617) Duh. Iraq was the flagship of the S.S. Arab. Turning Iraq around would show all of the Arab nations that they don't have to be fuckups; there was another way, and they could be happy and prosperous. Iraq was the perfect choice: a dangerous asshole in power, so no one would object to removing him; an Arab nation, one with a long and venerable history; a relatively secular Arab nation, and one with oil to boot. If Iraq couldn't make it, no Arab nation could. Last, a nation of a size that could be easily subdued. By contrast, Iran has no ethnic connection with the rest of the Arab world (quite the contrary); speaks another language, and has another culture; and has a relatively large population, that, if mobilized, would present a WWII-type scenario.Choosing Iraq was a no-brainer. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2015 11:32 PM (oKE6c) 350
Mom's CT scan is tomorrow. If any of you are praying types and could spare a couple tonight, I'd appreciate it.
The more I pray, the more anxious I get. Posted by: TickledPink at January 29, 2015 11:32 PM (RLev8) 351
Mom's CT scan is tomorrow. If any of you are praying types and could spare a couple tonight, I'd appreciate it.
The more I pray, the more anxious I get. Posted by: TickledPink at January 29, 2015 11:32 PM (RLev8) 352
All this 9/11 talk is taking me back to a very pissed off place. I am very glad my hands weren't on the levers of power.
Some fucking shithole would still be glowing, and I was at that time perfectly willing to spin a "wheel of misfortune" inclusive of all muslim run countries. Whoever it landed on....Bye Now keep your crazy motherfuckers in line, cuz if that happens again, this'll happen again. That's some first rate crazy. Good thing I was/am some dude watching from the cheap seats. Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2015 11:32 PM (XmOA9) 353
Because if they really believed this, Libertarians would be spitting mad over how the Left has used the Courts and Legislatures to delve balls deep into the marriage business, all the way to the alters.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:31 PM (K8c3j) Many of us are.... Especially when they over rode the vote of the people.... that is Judicial Tyranny. Posted by: BB Wolf at January 29, 2015 11:32 PM (qh617) Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:32 PM (Pauop) 355
340 I'm invisible tonite. I'm out. Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January Quitter, it's your Friday Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 11:32 PM (K4xGQ) 356
Listen. If you don't completely dry your anus, mold is a distinct possibility.
Posted by: Garrett at January 29, 2015 11:32 PM (7+hc/) 357
Heya, Miss Tammy.
Hope you and Thor are doing well. --- So I've been reading back for 100+ posts, trying to figure out out if there is a topic (*OTHER than anal somethingsomething)... help? Bashing Libertarians? Sure, I can do that! Posted by: shredded chi at January 29, 2015 11:32 PM (FuAhx) 358
Then whey the hell didn't we go after IRAN... who killed our Marines in Lebanon in 83, and were training and arming insurgents we were fighting in Afghanistan?
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 29, 2015 11:23 PM (qh617) Well Iran most certainly deserved it but Iraq was low-hanging fruit because Saddam was already in violation of the 1991 ceasefire so we had a casus belli ready to go. And Iraq was adjacent to Afghanistan where we already had troops. [Update: Geography failure on my part. Never mind.] Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:33 PM (pAlYe) 359
I'm retired US Navy.... I spent more than 2 years of my life sitting on ships in the Persian Gulf...
There is no way they could shut down the Gulf for any period of time. Posted by: BB Wolf at January 29, 2015 11:28 PM (qh617) I watched dozens of Navy guys brief the same thing to the State guys - who for some reason thought that if one oil tanker burned, oil would skyrocket in price, and the world's economy would crash. Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:33 PM (ztOda) 360
Oooh. Double post!
For the record, I was actually against the Iraq war at the time, but I also despised the anti-war folks for demonstrating against American troops who were trying to fight the war in a way to minimize damage to the innocent while not saying a peep about the "insurgents" blowing their own people up. I immediately saw them for the immoral agitators they were. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 29, 2015 11:33 PM (oa/c7) 361
Because if they really believed this, Libertarians would be spitting mad over how the Left has used the Courts and Legislatures to delve balls deep into the marriage business, all the way to the alters.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:31 PM (K8c3j) __________ And what makes you think they aren't? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:34 PM (0LHZx) 362
347: For some reason, I can't concentrate tonight. No work tomorrow maybe listen to some music, and see what happens.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 29, 2015 11:34 PM (ucDmr) 363
cool, some gun peeps
I was also counting the butstock/receiver/barrrel assembly as one part, plus the dustcover etc. An SKS is what? when field stripped dust cover type thingy inner bolt outer bolt receiver/barrel assembly top hand guard stock gotta be a spring there too been prolly 10 years since I field stripped a SKS Posted by: # key at January 29, 2015 11:34 PM (N21UI) 364
Hey Bers! Why were you clear down there?
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:34 PM (Pauop) 365
One way to view Reason's editorial staff -- In 2008, they came out for TFG for the most part. Lots of names you might recognize in this long ass piece:
http://reason.com/archives/2008/10/29/whos-getting-your-vote/ Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2015 11:34 PM (9KY3c) Posted by: Mindy at January 29, 2015 11:34 PM (81V/7) 367
Iraq is not adjacent to the 'stan. Iran is between the two.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:34 PM (OsWis) Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:35 PM (ztOda) 369
Think about it. The institution of marriage was doing just fine, minding it's own business. It was in no way a political issue. And then what happened? Did Conservatives wake up one day and say, Holy cats, we need to stop homosexuals from getting married! No, it was the Left who started the assault on marriage and made it a Huge political issue. And these idiot Libertarians come along and say yeah let's get govt out of the marriage business. Frikkin geniuses, they are. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:35 PM (K8c3j) 370
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 29, 2015 11:34 PM (ucDmr)
Stepping away can be good for the soul. Music ALWAYS is. Relax and enjoy! Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:35 PM (Pauop) 371
And Iraq was adjacent to Afghanistan where we already had troops.
Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:33 PM (pAlYe) ___________ Afghanistan borders Iran, not Iraq. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:35 PM (0LHZx) Posted by: RWC Team Warthog at January 29, 2015 11:35 PM (zxCGA) 373
350 Mom's CT scan is tomorrow. If any of you are praying types and could spare a couple tonight, I'd appreciate it.
The more I pray, the more anxious I get. Posted by: TickledPink at January 29, 2015 11:32 PM (RLev Prayer sent. Father, please grant TickledPink and her mom peace, and may they sense Your comfort, power, and love as it surrounds them. In Jesus' name. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 29, 2015 11:36 PM (oa/c7) 374
Let me get this straight: you were in Florida. In January. Instead of New Jersey. And you're upset about this.
I'm gonna need something stronger than bourbon to square that circle. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:21 PM (e+1S5) I was on that 70,000 tons of metal cruise. 60 bands, 4 stages, and 4 days of partying like a Viking. I had friends in a few bands, so I slept maybe 12-15 hours in 4 days. They cancelled my flight the morning I was getting off the ship, and I "would" have landed before the snow even started. I was stuck in Miami the first day, there was nothing to do there, and nobody fucking spoke English. I rented a dodge challenger and drove to key largo and got my ass reamed by the Hilton there, and it was far from warm. During the 3 days I was there my laptop died taking half the band pictures and vids I shot with it, and I made it home they would have been on my backup drive. Between the car, the hotel and food it was another $1200 for my 3 day excursion Fuck yeah, I would rather have had my balls frozen to a glacier then deal with the week I had. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2015 11:36 PM (FMbng) 375
Tammy...I know what you mean about "thinking of 9/11 lately".
I've found myself thinking of that movie 'Act of Valor'. The part where there are terrorists coming over the Southern Border, is...very plausible. And the only person who's been warning us about this happening is Rick Perry. Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2015 11:36 PM (hX3bN) 376
prayers out.
Posted by: OG CELTIC-AMERICAN at January 29, 2015 11:36 PM (XlFLJ) 377
And Iraq was adjacent to Afghanistan where we already had troops.
Posted by: Maetenloch I'm with ya' up until that sentence. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2015 11:36 PM (Zi7PZ) 378
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Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 11:08 PM (T1005) Interestingly, I was in a discussion earlier today regarding the alumnus of your school you were most embarrassed by. This was my response: http://tinyurl.com/mfzhpwl (Trigger warning: links to NYT) Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2015 11:14 PM (nL0sw) I read the article but didn't see a school I'm associated with. Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 11:36 PM (T1005) 379
And what makes you think they aren't? Because they think like you -- with the who cares, it doesn't affect me if two homos want to be married attitude. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:36 PM (K8c3j) 380
Is Iraq adjacent to Afghanistan? I think it was Iran.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:37 PM (Pauop) Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:37 PM (OsWis) 382
I know, I know, I hate America.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:31 PM (0LHZx) You forgot to say the Afghanistan and Iraq war supporters believe in the Bible. I'm you will get it next time. Posted by: cm9000 at January 29, 2015 11:37 PM (8zCR+) 383
Because they think like you -- with the who cares, it doesn't affect me if two homos want to be married attitude.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:36 PM (K8c3j) __________ Yes AND also think the govt should get the fuck out of the marriage business AND think it's total bullshit that courts have become legislative bodies. It's possible to hold more than one position, you do realize that, yes? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:38 PM (0LHZx) 384
>>>Fuck yeah, I would rather have had my balls frozen to a glacier then deal with the week I had.
Were you at least able to slvage the Poison reunion video? I'd hate to think that you guys finally for back together and there was no evidence. Posted by: Garrett at January 29, 2015 11:38 PM (7+hc/) 385
>>>Fuck yeah, I would rather have had my balls frozen to a glacier then deal with the week I had.
Were you at least able to slvage the Poison reunion video? I'd hate to think that you guys finally for back together and there was no evidence. Posted by: Garrett at January 29, 2015 11:38 PM (7+hc/) 386
Yep, Iraq borders Iran, which borders Afghanistan. (Hi Miss Tammy!)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 29, 2015 11:38 PM (oa/c7) 387
Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2015 11:36 PM (hX3bN)
No shit. Mind you, if there has to be a place for it to happen, Texas is our best shot. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:38 PM (Pauop) 388
I sometimes wonder if Bush would have been better off to go full Ronnie RayGun caricature. Just invade a new country that ends in 'stan or has more than 5% of the population named Mohammed. Every single month.
Don't rebuild shit. Just break stuff, kill the dictator of the month, and pack up for home. Really convince the Muzzie world that he's bugfuck nuts and they better start acting right or he might nuke Mecca because his omelette had green peppers instead of poblano peppers. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:38 PM (e+1S5) 389
Saudi Arabia was left untouched because money.
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2015 11:30 PM (MQEz6) ----- Also perhaps because the Saudi state did not train, support, or equip the terrorists in any way. And also because we had a lot of facilities and people there. You know they were what's the word - oh, they were an ally. On the other hand, how many rich Saudis who backed aQ financially have been assassinated since 2001? Posted by: RioBravo at January 29, 2015 11:38 PM (z27Ny) 390
I read the article but didn't see a school I'm associated with.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 11:36 PM (T1005) Not you,\; me, lol. I'm a Mississippi State alum. Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2015 11:39 PM (nL0sw) 391
chique, dear lady! Always a treat to have you among us.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:39 PM (Pauop) 392
You forgot to say the Afghanistan and Iraq war supporters believe in the Bible. I'm you will get it next time.
Posted by: cm9000 at January 29, 2015 11:37 PM (8zCR+) ___________ That's probably a true but irrelevant statement. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:39 PM (0LHZx) 393
Let's get this straight: the so-called Libertarians at Reason are not really aligned with some of us Conservatives who consider ourselves Libertarians. I'm talking about the Reason Libertarians. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:39 PM (K8c3j) 394
It is being taught as absolute truth that being a privileged oppressor turns people into a social misfit (presumably due to covetously being covetous) who are then driven to suicide by their own evil.
More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=8029 Posted by: The Political Hat at January 29, 2015 10:21 PM (0Ew3K) Meh. Covetousness is the chief evil of the left. Posted by: Jade Sea at January 29, 2015 11:39 PM (M/hc7) 395
No, it was the Left who started the assault on
marriage and made it a Huge political issue. And these idiot Libertarians come along and say yeah let's get govt out of the marriage business. Frikkin geniuses, they are. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:35 PM (K8c3j) I tend to think a prime motivator for the SSM stuff is economic. "They" are looking for marriage tax breaks, getting on employer's insurance coverage, etc. And then they present the false choice of 'equal rights' to push the issue... Posted by: Ian Galt at January 29, 2015 11:39 PM (dmepw) 396
And Iraq was adjacent to Afghanistan where we already had troops.
Posted by: Maetenloch Huh? Not on my map. Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... after dark at January 29, 2015 11:39 PM (+1T7c) 397
Were you at least able to slvage the Poison reunion video? I'd hate to think that you guys finally for back together and there was no evidence.
Posted by: Garrett at January 29, 2015 11:38 PM (7+hc/) Poison would have been found dead and gagged with empty beer cans on this cruise. This was a voyage for true men. lol Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2015 11:39 PM (FMbng) 398
367 Iraq is not adjacent to the 'stan. Iran is between the two.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:34 PM (OsWis) Doh! Geography failure on my part. So scratch that as a reason. Although I do believe we already had some advisers in the no fly zone. Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:39 PM (pAlYe) 399
One way to view Reason's editorial staff -- In 2008, they came out for TFG for the most part. Lots of names you might recognize in this long ass piece:
http://reason.com/archives/2008/10/29/whos-getting-your-vote/ Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2015 11:34 PM (9KY3c) A lot of "libertarians" were for Obama because they thought he'd "bring the boys home" and then all our foreign problems would go away, and that he couldn't be worse than Bush on domestic issues... Posted by: The Political Hat at January 29, 2015 11:40 PM (0Ew3K) 400
One way to view Reason's editorial staff -- In 2008, they came out for TFG for the most part. Lots of names you might recognize in this long ass piece:
http://reason.com/archives/2008/10/29/whos-getting-your-vote/ Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2015 11:34 PM (9KY3c) A lot of "libertarians" were for Obama because they thought he'd "bring the boys home" and then all our foreign problems would go away, and that he couldn't be worse than Bush on domestic issues... Posted by: The Political Hat at January 29, 2015 11:40 PM (0Ew3K) 401
he might nuke Mecca because his omelette had green peppers instead of poblano peppers.
Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:38 PM (e+1S5) Or they were all outta Co-Cola and tried to fob a fucking Pepsi off on him. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:40 PM (Pauop) 402
266 Fair or unfair, the shit Sheldon Richman spewed in that Reason article is why the Libertarians remain a 1% party.
Posted by: toby928(C) trys the shorhand at January 29, 2015 11:17 PM (rwI+c) Libertarians do a good job of making sure that nobody likes Libertarians. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 29, 2015 11:40 PM (+Fae7) Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:40 PM (OsWis) 404
Iraq...complete waste of American lives and money.
I know, I know, I hate America. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:31 PM (0LHZx) No, you don't. You're just a bit intellectually immature. Suppose Bush had succeeded in putting Iraq on course to becoming a pluralistic, capitalistic democracy, qualitatively changing the trajectory of Iraqi, and therefore world, history. In my opinion, he'd rate FAR above Lincoln, who had fuck-all impact outside of the U.S. The thing is that Bush may have succeeded. It'll take generations to know for sure. If he did succeed, he will (or should) rate among the greatest of American Presidents. Think that's off base? Recall Lincoln was considered a retard by his own Cabinet, Seward in particular, and he presided over a catastrophically mis-managed war that went through seven - seven commanders of the army, who faced draft riots in NYC, and risked European intervention on behalf of the South ... yet now is considered among our greatest Presidents. Bottom line: contemporary judgments are worthless. Only time - a few generations, at least - afford sufficient perspective to generate a non-moronic assessment. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2015 11:41 PM (oKE6c) 405
well after a loooong Time since Irak in 2003, I think mulim culture and countries are fucked and would say no more nation building, ever
multiculture-ism killed nation building so as Derb said once "rubble don't make trouble" Posted by: # key at January 29, 2015 11:41 PM (N21UI) 406
Lawsy, chique is here and Mindy and Bers, and now Gnu Breed. Lovely night!
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:41 PM (Pauop) 407
Wheatie:
But then you look at one... It looks like a big Turd on a Hot Dog bun. -------------------- If it slows down in a minute, I'll tell the long version. For now: I just convinced my neighbor to take Tootsie Rolls into his roommate's room, eat them and say "yep, these are from Gypsy - they're not from Tucker!" (She claims my pup was pooping in his house...) Posted by: shredded chi at January 29, 2015 11:41 PM (FuAhx) Posted by: Mindy at January 29, 2015 11:42 PM (81V/7) 409
I read the article but didn't see a school I'm associated with.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 11:36 PM (T1005) Not you,\; me, lol. I'm a Mississippi State alum. Also, the actual point of me bringing that article up is the time frame of '98, which unless my math is wrong, comes after '91, thus rebutting the troll's argument. Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2015 11:42 PM (nL0sw) 410
Lawsy, chique is here and Mindy and Bers, and now Gnu Breed. Lovely night!
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:41 PM (Pauop) I'm in a destructive mood tonight. lol Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2015 11:42 PM (FMbng) 411
List of neo-cons who have called for abolishing the Air Force this week:
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 29, 2015 11:42 PM (xq1UY) 412
There is no both. You can't change an institution such as marriage without totally involving the government! Do you not see this? You can't up-end a tradition such as marriage in a unique nation like the USA without the government imposing itself upon the People. The people didn't want homo marriage. The Left wanted it. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:42 PM (K8c3j) 413
"And Iraq was adjacent to Afghanistan where we already had troops."
Actually, I think Iran gets in the way. Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2015 11:43 PM (2o6Wj) 414
The more I pray, the more anxious I get.
Posted by: TickledPink at January 29, 2015 11:32 PM You can count on my prayers, ma'am. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:43 PM (Pauop) Posted by: The Political Hat at January 29, 2015 11:43 PM (0Ew3K) 416
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You sound similar to me, BB Wolf - Conservative with a Libertarian Leanings is how I describe it when pushed... And hey, cth, LJ, Mis Hum, anyone else here that occasionally talks to me when I visit. Posted by: shredded chi at January 29, 2015 11:24 PM (FuAhx) Howdy, howdy! Still a zillion comments behind..... Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 11:44 PM (T1005) 417
I wonder if my division had been allowed boots on the ground in Turkey, and the original plan for us to enter Iraq from the north would have made a difference.
Sitting around empty motor pools for months waiting for Turkey's permission didn't help morale, that's for sure. You can only do so many police calls and A/B/C bag inspections. Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:44 PM (OsWis) 418
Iran/Iraq war. If I was prezzy then, I would have armed Saddam to the teeth. Tell him to keep piling up skulls till they quit or are all dead. Then I would have said to Saddam we can do to you what you did to them in seconds. Don't step out of line asshole. Or I maybe I would have made a sheet of glass of the Middle East. I wouldn't have made a very good president I guess.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 29, 2015 11:44 PM (ucDmr) 419
And I really want to end, or at the very least severely restrict Muslim immigration to the US, and unlike most, I've actually had plenty of contact with Muslims here and while i have no problem with any of them as individuals, their sheer mass--and sky-high birth rates, along with the fact that their culture and religion is diametrically opposed to ours, scare the shit out of me. It's not that I expect them to commit terrorist acts here, it's that these are the people who--along with their exposure to left-wing college profs--are really going to make this nation unrecognizable. We need to stop the flow.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2015 11:44 PM (8HGb7) 420
alumnus of your school you were most embarrassed by. --------------- Easy..., as far as I know..... Chris Matthews Posted by: Mike Hammer, wearing dark glasses and a hat so no one will recognize him. at January 29, 2015 11:44 PM (vPh3W) 421
Maet is not a neocon but a geography quizz
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 11:44 PM (K4xGQ) 422
I sometimes wonder if Bush would have been better off
to go full Ronnie RayGun caricature. Just invade a new country that ends in 'stan or has more than 5% of the population named Mohammed. Every single month. Don't rebuild shit. Just break stuff, kill the dictator of the month, and pack up for home. Really convince the Muzzie world that he's bugfuck nuts and they better start acting right or he might nuke Mecca because his omelette had green peppers instead of poblano peppers. Posted by: DC in River City I used to read the NY Times, that's what I thought he was doing. Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2015 11:44 PM (ztOda) 423
Let's get this straight: the so-called Libertarians at Reason are not really aligned with some of us Conservatives who consider ourselves Libertarians.
I'm talking about the Reason Libertarians. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:39 PM (K8c3j) Note that there's a difference between libertarians and Libertarians. I think a lot of the horde (myself included) would be considered libertarian conservatives but definitely not Libertarians. Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:44 PM (pAlYe) 424
That's probably a true but irrelevant statement.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:39 PM (0LHZx) Yeah like that's ever stopped you before. Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2015 11:44 PM (zt+N6) 425
366 WRC, sounds like you have a story to tell.
*pulls up a stool* (not that kind of stool) Posted by: Mindy at January 29, 2015 11:34 PM (81V/7) Is that me? Well, if not, here it goes. Woke up one Friday with a phone call stating basically my aunt was dying because they are going to pull the plug because sepsis(?) was throughout her body. All functions were failing. All doctors had written her off except for one. He said that we'll get her back. She's not done. And he did. He proclaimed it a 'miracle'. (Miracle, yeah, but us yinzers are a stubborn bunch.) Now she is showering/bathing by herself. And in the documentary my Uncle will be the spokesman. His name, Uncle Putz. Posted by: RWC Team Warthog at January 29, 2015 11:45 PM (zxCGA) 426
I've had a problem with those "libertarians" at reason since I learn just how many of their editors voted for Obama in 2008. There's a lot of stupid in that magazine. Posted by: Lily at January 29, 2015 11:45 PM (dXCcK) 427
Fine. I'm not wasting my time with semantics. We all know what I mean. Well, now, anyway. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:45 PM (K8c3j) 428
TP, thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2015 11:45 PM (nL0sw) 429
Let's face it, libertarianism is intellectual masturbation.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2015 11:16 PM (oKE6c) Congrats. The libertarians are the new jews. Shall we make them wear symbols on their clothes or shall we just take them out in cargo planes and dump them in the South Atlantic like anti-Peronists? You know, you can always tell a libertarian, they are supported by those Teabaggers, always crying about their rights and their constitution and the freedom of man to detriment of the State. All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state and Auslanders Raus! We should go down to the ghett....the coffee houses and the places of worship and burn them out..... Look at their heroes, traitors, revolutionaries and slaveholders all, the list is impossible of unwieldy and subnormal names: Jefferson, Washington, Paine, Adams....A disgrace to any country. We should have more like William Jennings Bryan, Dewy and Wilson. Real men who understood power and what it was possible to do. Thank you for pulling my head out of the sand and teaching me who to hate. Posted by: Kindltot at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (t//F+) 430
I consider myself a small-government conservative, but not necessarily a Libertarian.
I think it seems that "small-government" anymore must mean you are Libertarian. Posted by: TickledPink at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (RLev8) 431
There is no both. You can't change an institution such as marriage without totally involving the government!
Do you not see this? You can't up-end a tradition such as marriage in a unique nation like the USA without the government imposing itself upon the People. The people didn't want homo marriage. The Left wanted it. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:42 PM (K8c3j) _________ It always fascinates me when "conservatives" who want limited govt and to be left the fuck alone by the govt, also want the govt to tell them who they can or can't marry. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (0LHZx) 432
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"All entries must be received by 11:30pm EST. Not valid in CT." Just missed it. Oh well - NEOCON! Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2015 11:25 PM Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2015 11:27 PM (vPh3W) Despite the label, that's Pixy Standard Time, not Eastern Standard Time. Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (T1005) 433
348 "A guy is pitching his idea for a business loan...to make hot-dog-shaped hamburger patties."
Whatever happened to the Roman Burger from Mr. Hero? ( no relation) Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2015 11:31 PM (2o6Wj) --------- Haven't heard of that one. ...Is that another one of those things that 'sound good in theory, but look like shit'? Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (hX3bN) 434
>>>I'm in a destructive mood tonight. lol
But how was the cruise? I got an ad for that one, or something similar about a year ago. I junked it, but it looked kinda cool, with a 60% of total lameness. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (e+1S5) 435
Libertarians always fight hard for their social causes -- weed, gay marriage, etc -- but never seem to fight much for their supposed economic beliefs like pushing back against minimum wage laws and other price controls.
They have bitched occasionally about occupational licensing. They also have been wusses in fighting the Environmentalist as the eco-nazis have taken over the whole country. Mostly cause it's dominated by big city hipsters who, just like the like weed and gay marriage, also grew up indoctrinated in the Green movement and kinda like that, too. The massive and arbitrary control the EPA wields on American life is something Libertarians should, by their own stated ideology, by screaming and railing against. But they almost never do. They scream like hell about pot and gay marriage and anti-war stuff though. Now all they seem to have left is the anti-war/anti-military stuff. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (ZPrif) 436
>> Lawsy, chique is here and Mindy and Bers, and now Gnu Breed. Lovely night!
*waves at Tammy* Red meat politics and anal; not your mom's ONT. Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (9KY3c) 437
Iran is between Iraq and Afghanistan
Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:37 PM (OsWis) -------------------- How did you get from Iraq to Afghanistan? "I ran." *I know - it's lame, but I read it here in the last couple days.* Posted by: shredded chi at January 29, 2015 11:47 PM (FuAhx) 438
411 List of neo-cons who have called for abolishing the Air Force this week:
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 29, 2015 11:42 PM (xq1UY) You mean like Jerry Pournelle here: http://bit.ly/1BBMtRx Also DING! Current Count: 2 Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:47 PM (pAlYe) 439
heh chi
Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:47 PM (OsWis) 440
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I tend to think a prime motivator for the SSM stuff is economic. "They" are looking for marriage tax breaks, getting on employer's insurance coverage, etc. And then they present the false choice of 'equal rights' to push the issue... Posted by: Ian Galt at January 29, 2015 11:39 PM (dmepw) One problem with that: that's what civil unions were for. But civil unions didn't involve making everybody else pretend that these relationships were the same as marriage. Posted by: Mindy at January 29, 2015 11:48 PM (81V/7) 441
Reason #12
The only true patriotism is the destruction of the United States and replacing it with a egalitarian society based on science. A society where everyone is equal will have no desire to invade and conquer other countries. We can then all live in harmony, peace and prosperity, sharing equally the benefits of enlightened government of experts. Long live the revolutionaries who will lead us to the promised utopia. I lift my glass of victory gin to the younger generation who will not repeat the mistakes of the past. Could someone loan me $35 New Dollars for a Mickey D's burger and fries? I will gladly repay you next monday when my benefit check is deposited in my account. Posted by: Big Bubba's Licensed Tote and Fetch Drayage at January 29, 2015 11:48 PM (8U69Y) 442
We need to stop the flow.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2015 11:44 PM (8HGb7) Ace posted something similar this afternoon Posted by: # key at January 29, 2015 11:48 PM (N21UI) 443
Fuck yeah, I would rather have had my balls frozen to a glacier then deal with the week I had.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2015 11:36 PM (FMbng) Oh dear. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:48 PM (Pauop) 444
No, NOW the govt is telling Us who can and cannot marry. Before, it was just normal marriage. Today we have something perverted, thanks to govt. Men have "husbands" today because of govt. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:49 PM (K8c3j) 445
Exactly when did Reason become the libertarian handbook?
It's like saying Huckabee and Santorum represent all conservatives. Why? I dunno, cuz I say so, that's why. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:49 PM (0LHZx) Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2015 11:50 PM (oKE6c) 447
No, NOW the govt is telling Us who can and cannot marry.
Before, it was just normal marriage. Today we have something perverted, thanks to govt. Men have "husbands" today because of govt. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:49 PM (K8c3j) ___________ Wrong. The govt has always told you who you can marry. All that's happened with SSM is the options have increased. But the govt still decides who can and who cannot get married. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:50 PM (0LHZx) 448
It always fascinates me when "conservatives" who want limited govt and to be left the fuck alone by the govt, also want the govt to tell them who they can or can't marry.
------------------------ First of all, the govt did not allow certain people to marry, e.g., siblings, parents and children, adults and certain minors. So nothing new. Second, marriage actually means something, not just what certain folks want to it to mean. Just like some people out there are insisting that real women have d*cks, which they don't, but we're haters for insisting on reality. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 29, 2015 11:50 PM (oa/c7) 449
Right, the fact so many at Reason supported Obama, when it was obvious to so many what he would do if elected and how radically left-wing he was ... is insane.
But that's what happened. We got Reason 2008 - Libertarians For Socialized Medicine. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 11:51 PM (ZPrif) 450
Now all they seem to have left is the anti-war/anti-military stuff.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (ZPrif) And their poster children old man Paul,and his kid would rather audit the fed than eliminate the EPA. Which IMHO is bullshit Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 11:51 PM (K4xGQ) 451
also want the govt to tell them who they can or can't marry.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo ------------------- Strawman. Clever strawman, but still a strawman. It isn't 'Who', it is 'What'. Posted by: Mike Hammer, wearing dark glasses and a hat so no one will recognize him. at January 29, 2015 11:51 PM (vPh3W) 452
Every Muslim I have ever met, had dealings with, and call friend is/was as nice a human being as I have ever met.
Gracious, so hospitable as to put a Southerner to shame, polite, lovely lovely lovely. But enough already. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:51 PM (Pauop) 453
Coupla thangs:
1) I'm drunk - been awhile for AoSHQ standards. 2) Libertarians - LOL 3) Dudes is scared of chicks they don't know because of being shot down especially in front of their homeboys. Heckling is a BITCH. 3) lolwat Posted by: thathalfrican at January 29, 2015 11:51 PM (R5HRU) 454
Awesome story, RWC!
It was obviously not her time to go. Hope y'all have many more good years with her. Posted by: Mindy at January 29, 2015 11:51 PM (81V/7) 455
You are thinking of Peruvia, Maet.
Posted by: Garrett at January 29, 2015 11:51 PM (7+hc/) 456
395--I've been saying that for years. The primary spark for gay marriage was the outbreak of AIDs and it was all economic. People who had lived together for years were not covered under their "partner's" insurance etc, the disease was expensive to treat...it took a few years, but you're right--they used "equality"to get around opposition.
It was actually a brilliant strategy. Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2015 11:51 PM (8HGb7) 457
It always fascinates me when "conservatives" who
want limited govt and to be left the fuck alone by the govt, also want the govt to tell them who they can or can't marry. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (0LHZx) I love dorm room philosophy. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2015 11:51 PM (oKE6c) 458
Exactly when did Reason become the libertarian handbook?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:49 PM (0LHZx) I think this where the distinction between "small l" and "big L" l/Libertarian comes in. Reason is arguably the "Big L," as in "Libertarian Party," handbook. However, it's certainly not the "small l" libertarian handbook. Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2015 11:52 PM (nL0sw) Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 29, 2015 11:52 PM (OsWis) 460
Reason and Cato are the face of American libertarianism cause those are the two most influential idea centers.
Well, that and the Paul Klan. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 11:52 PM (ZPrif) 461
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Posted by: wheatie at January 29, 2015 11:52 PM (hX3bN) Posted by: eman at January 29, 2015 11:52 PM (MQEz6) 463
Ok - I'm starting to catch up...
is it time to do a shot? I KNOW I owe at least one person here one... Posted by: shredded chi at January 29, 2015 11:52 PM (FuAhx) 464
445 Exactly when did Reason become the libertarian handbook?
It's like saying Huckabee and Santorum represent all conservatives. Why? I dunno, cuz I say so, that's why. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:49 PM (0LHZx) Well I think Ron Paul's views are pretty much in agreement with Reason's. So if you're telling me that they don't really represent Libertarianism, then we're pretty far down the these-aren't-real-Muslims no-true-Scotsman road. Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:53 PM (pAlYe) Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:53 PM (Pauop) 466
Congrats. The libertarians are the new jews. Shall we make them wear symbols on their clothes or shall we just take them out in cargo planes and dump them in the South Atlantic like anti-Peronists?
... Thank you for pulling my head out of the sand and teaching me who to hate. Posted by: Kindltot at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (t//F+) That's it, you're being put on the list... Posted by: Anti-Libertarian Death Squad at January 29, 2015 11:54 PM (0Ew3K) 467
It always fascinates me when "conservatives" who
want limited govt and to be left the fuck alone by the govt, also want the govt to tell them who they can or can't marry. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (0LHZx) No, society is saying, "If you are a man and woman and are married, you will get tax breaks, because we (society) believe this form provides a stable institution for children, who are our future."If you want to live with someone of your sex, we don't give a fcuk. You just don't get the tax breaks. Posted by: Ian Galt at January 29, 2015 11:54 PM (dmepw) 468
The people didn't want homo marriage. The Left wanted it.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 11:42 PM (K8c3j) ******** My cynical view is that the Leftards saw this as a wedge issue and,co opted it for this purpose only, not becauset they believe in it strongly. Oh, evening all. Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 29, 2015 11:54 PM (z2f1n) 469
But how was the cruise? I got an ad for that one, or something similar about a year ago. I junked it, but it looked kinda cool, with a 60% of total lameness.
Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (e+1S5) Wasn't this cruise, nooo way. This was total mayhem. You probably got a flyer for that monsters of rock cruise. That's pretty lame. This cruise had huge horsepower. Arch enemy, ensiferum, anvil, venom, blind guardian, primal fear, wintersun, and on and on. This was some serious Viking shit. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2015 11:54 PM (FMbng) 470
RWC, please let us know when it airs!
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:54 PM (Pauop) 471
Human nature told us who we can marry, not govt. Government only facilitated what everyone else thought was normal. Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 29, 2015 11:54 PM (K8c3j) 472
Posted by: Kindltot at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (t//F+)
That's bullshit. Check our founding documents...."governments are instituted among men"....sound familiar? You can never get 100% consent from 100% of the population 100% of the time, ergo, someone is always going to feel aggressed when paying tax for something they disagree with. So, the ZAP of the Libertarians goes right out the window, and you're left with mass anarchy. It does not work. It's great theory, and as little government as necessary to do the constituted duties of government should be the goal, but the choice isn't Libertarianism or Wilson. False dichotomy. Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2015 11:54 PM (XmOA9) Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2015 11:55 PM (2o6Wj) 474
453: Recover from Vegas yet my friend?
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 29, 2015 11:55 PM (ucDmr) 475
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo I love dorm room philosophy. Posted by: Jay Guevara The deep intellectual insights of someone waiting for the dryer in the student housing laundry room to finish its cycle. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2015 11:55 PM (kdS6q) 476
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Saudi Arabia was left untouched because money. Posted by: eman at January 29, 2015 11:30 PM (MQEz6) ----- Also perhaps because the Saudi state did not train, support, or equip the terrorists in any way. And also because we had a lot of facilities and people there. You know they were what's the word - oh, they were an ally. On the other hand, how many rich Saudis who backed aQ financially have been assassinated since 2001? Posted by: RioBravo at January 29, 2015 11:38 PM (z27Ny) Not nearly enough. Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 11:55 PM (T1005) 477
But that's what happened. We got Reason 2008 - Libertarians For Socialized Medicine.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at January Cash for Clunkers was truly a libertarian event Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2015 11:55 PM (K4xGQ) 478
Hey Man!
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:55 PM (Pauop) 479
217 Geeze. I've never torn down an AK..., but that thing has LOTS of parts. Kalashnikov did a good job. One would think that the gun would be sensitive to dirt, but apparently, it takes a licking, and keeps on ticking.
Actually field stripping one is very simple, way less complex than AR types but way looser tolerances, hence less sensitive to malfs. They got it wrong on the muzzle nut, it comes off CW, otherwise cool animation. Posted by: Gaseous Clay at January 29, 2015 11:56 PM (zC3zB) 480
Socons hate libertarians because at heart socons are leftists. They want to control my life. Difference between them and the "left" is the aspects of my life they want to control. But control is control.
Smoke weed? Fuck no, we know what's best for you. Marry a dude? Fuck no, we know what's best for you/ Buy booze on Sunday? Fuck no, we know what's best for you. Swear in an office? Fuck no, Preacher Huckabee will put an end to that. Have an abortion? Fuck no, we know what's best for you. Show a tit on TV? Fuck no, we know what's best for you. And the children, don't forget about those children! And on and on.... Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:56 PM (0LHZx) 481
Right, they don't attack the EPA cause being that would be very unpopular in their social circles.
Most of the libertarian "thought leaders" live in DC or inner suburbs like Arlington. Very left-wing areas where everybody is, of course, super concerned about saving the Earth from those evil, anti-Science right-winger. Doubting climate change is on par with wanting to ban weed and gay marriage as a horrible social faux pas where they live and work. Very few of their principled stands go strongly against the grain of the upper-middle class Democrat stronghold social circles they live in. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 11:56 PM (ZPrif) 482
454 Awesome story, RWC! It was obviously not her time to go. Hope y'all have many more good years with her. Posted by: Mindy at January 29, 2015 11:51 PM (81V/7) Thanks Mindy. I have a huge family and that is one that I really, really didn't want to see to. I just hope Putz took off his gold Mac-10 necklace for the interview. Posted by: RWC Team Warthog at January 29, 2015 11:57 PM (zxCGA) 483
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:56 PM (0LHZx)
Damn we've done been found out, Cletus! Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:57 PM (pAlYe) 484
Libertarians are one step - but not two steps - above college sophomores who think we can cure poverty by doubling everyone's income, or address some other social ill - e.g., war - by applying a simplistic one size fits all standard.
Grownups - i.e., neither leftists, nor libertarians - recognize that addressing real world problems requires balancing conflicting and to some extent mutually exclusive requirements, and thus necessitates adopting partial solutions that do not comport well with extreme political orthodoxy, but that address the problems as well as one can hope for under the circumstances. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2015 11:57 PM (oKE6c) 485
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Wheatie: But then you look at one... It looks like a big Turd on a Hot Dog bun. -------------------- If it slows down in a minute, I'll tell the long version. For now: I just convinced my neighbor to take Tootsie Rolls into his roommate's room, eat them and say "yep, these are from Gypsy - they're not from Tucker!" (She claims my pup was pooping in his house...) Posted by: shredded chi at January 29, 2015 11:41 PM (FuAhx) Heh. Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2015 11:58 PM (T1005) 486
And I really want to end, or at the very least
severely restrict Muslim immigration to the US, and unlike most, I've actually had plenty of contact with Muslims here and while i have no problem with any of them as individuals, their sheer mass--and sky-high birth rates, along with the fact that their culture and religion is diametrically opposed to ours, scare the shit out of me. It's not that I expect them to commit terrorist acts here, it's that these are the people who--along with their exposure to left-wing college profs--are really going to make this nation unrecognizable. We need to stop the flow. Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2015 11:44 PM (8HGb7) Wow, that is some of the most extreme anti-Islamic Islamistaphobiaisticalistism i have ever seen. Posted by: cm9000 at January 29, 2015 11:58 PM (8zCR+) 487
Oh yeah, to top it off. To my horror, 2 of the guitar players from 2 of my favorite bands that I was getting drunk with decided to rip all their clothes off and sing 2 metallica songs balls ass naked in the karaoke bar.
(Um no Tammy, they didn't convince me to join them. lol) Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2015 11:58 PM (FMbng) 488
You can't legally marry
a child a close blood relative someone who is already married someone who can not enter a contract a non-human creature someone of the same sex Well, now scratch that last one. Posted by: eman at January 29, 2015 11:58 PM (MQEz6) 489
Forgive my ignorance, but can someone define neocon,
paleocon and crunchy con based on their beliefs? I looked into it briefly on Wikipedia, but they didn't get straight to the point and I got distracted. Thanks! Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 29, 2015 11:25 PM (oa/c7) NeoCon: Someone who used to be a liberal but decided to vote for Reagan, originally. A traitor to the cause, and to be hated. Now just someone we hate who we think should support us according to our models. Paleocon: Someone who is percieved to be, as Dr Jerry Pournelle put it, To the right of Ghengis Khan. (who actually was more of a big state liberal) Think Lumpenproletariat, or Kulaks who might have their own militia. I thought CrunchyCon was a fan based get-together for infantry as perceived by tankers, but I could be wrong. Ah, I googled it. People who live an alternative or simple lifestyle full of those things that are supposed to be only the cultural assemblage of the moonbat and counter-culture as seen by reading the Whole Earth Catalog of 1973, however are conservative. Otherwords, Race Traitors, Oreos or Class traitors. Posted by: Kindltot at January 29, 2015 11:58 PM (t//F+) 490
No, society is saying, "If you are a man and woman and are married, you will get tax breaks, because we (society) believe this form provides a stable institution for children, who are our future."If you want to live with someone of your sex, we don't give a fcuk. You just don't get the tax breaks.
Posted by: Ian Galt at January 29, 2015 11:54 PM (dmepw) __________ Except for a long time, the govt penalized married people. Ever hear of the marriage penalty? But aside from that little issue, your argument is spot on. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:59 PM (0LHZx) 491
SoCons are evidently the new NeoCons.
Or is that NeoNeoCons? I've lost track. It might be NeoNeoNeoCons. Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2015 11:59 PM (nL0sw) 492
I think this where the distinction between "small l" and "big L" l/Libertarian comes in. Reason is arguably the "Big L," as in "Libertarian Party," handbook. However, it's certainly not the "small l" libertarian handbook.
Posted by: Country Singer Pretty much. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2015 11:59 PM (Zi7PZ) 493
>>>Arch enemy, ensiferum, anvil, venom, blind guardian, primal fear, wintersun, and on and on. This was some serious Viking shit.
You fucking kidding me? Surprised the hull held up. Did you pay extra for the free unlimited booze package they usually offer on cruises? Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:59 PM (e+1S5) 494
Roky Ericson kicks ass for a schitzo.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 12:00 AM (ucDmr) 495
Demonstrating why arguing with the unlikable miserable shitheaded contrarian troll is pointless since 2014.Cowfucker isn't actually interested in any facts or information. He just wants to spout his bullshit and claim he's right and then proceed to insult.
Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2015 12:00 AM (zt+N6) 496
Libertarians are one step - but not two steps - above college sophomores who think we can cure poverty by doubling everyone's income,
________ On what planet do libertarians say this? Do you even know what the word libertarian means? I really don't think you do. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:00 AM (0LHZx) 497
Is that Fryer Tucker, shredded chi? Mmm. Fryer Tucker.
Posted by: president o'bumbles at January 30, 2015 12:00 AM (L6/+u) 498
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366 WRC, sounds like you have a story to tell. *pulls up a stool* (not that kind of stool) Posted by: Mindy at January 29, 2015 11:34 PM (81V/7) Is that me? Well, if not, here it goes. Woke up one Friday with a phone call stating basically my aunt was dying because they are going to pull the plug because sepsis(?) was throughout her body. All functions were failing. All doctors had written her off except for one. He said that we'll get her back. She's not done. And he did. He proclaimed it a 'miracle'. (Miracle, yeah, but us yinzers are a stubborn bunch.) Now she is showering/bathing by herself. And in the documentary my Uncle will be the spokesman. His name, Uncle Putz. Posted by: RWC Team Warthog at January 29, 2015 11:45 PM (zxCGA) YAY!!! That is some mighty good news. Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 12:00 AM (T1005) 499
Funny thing about Sullivan, no one, NO ONE is fooled by his blog farewell. Fact is, he's irrelevant and has been for years. I can't even remember the last time he wrote or said anything that rose above the noise floor of the blogosphere. Although, it must be noted that he's done yeoman's work in long-distance gynecology. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM (krgKs) 500
495 Demonstrating why arguing with the unlikable miserable shitheaded contrarian troll is pointless since 2014.Cowfucker isn't actually interested in any facts or information. He just wants to spout his bullshit and claim he's right and then proceed to insult.
Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2015 12:00 AM (zt+N6) __________ And here it is. Dare to question TrueCon orthodoxy and you're a troll. How original. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM (0LHZx) 501
Well, now scratch that last one.
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2015 11:58 PM (MQEz6) Its the second to last one that Moo Moo is hoping they will get to next. Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM (zt+N6) 502
The deep intellectual insights of someone waiting for the dryer in the student housing laundry room to finish its cycle.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2015 11:55 PM (kdS6q) But the greatest insights require a coterie of acolytes sitting about guru's feet, each waiting for the joint to come his way. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM (oKE6c) 503
Socons hate libertarians because at heart socons are leftists. They want to control my life.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo Moo, I'll say this in as neutral terms as I can imagine; you've never read Dale Carnegie's book, have you? Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM (Zi7PZ) 504
Some Moron asked "how do you clean the anus mold?"
Easy, Moron! You boil the shit out of it! Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM (RzZOc) 505
>>They got it wrong on the muzzle nut, it comes off CW, otherwise cool animation.
maybe it was an Australian model. Posted by: Garrett at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM (7+hc/) 506
Chi...I keep trying to reply to your comment about 'Tootsie Rolls', but for some reason Pixy gives me an "error" message.
Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM (hX3bN) 507
Well I think Ron Paul's views are pretty much in agreement with Reason's. So if you're telling me that they don't really represent Libertarianism, then we're pretty far down the these-aren't-real-Muslims no-true-Scotsman road.
Posted by: Maetenloch at January 29, 2015 11:53 PM Please don't feed the troll. I'm waiting for the day he realizes we can never live up to his greatness and he starts his own blog. Hot Air is already taken, perhaps Bloared Moo. Maybe we can have a contest and help him on his way Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM (K4xGQ) Posted by: Mindy at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM (81V/7) 509
Then change the IRS tax code! You dont up-end one of our institutions. Well you do if your goal was to Fuck With Normal.. Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM (K8c3j) 510
Except for a long time, the govt penalized married
people. Ever hear of the marriage penalty? But aside from that little issue, your argument is spot on. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:59 PM (0LHZx) Yeah, marriage penalty for certain ranges of incomes (thanks to lefties and other idiots complicating the tax code - completely different topic), but overall, married people pay lower rates. Posted by: Ian Galt at January 30, 2015 12:02 AM (dmepw) 511
Why Iraq and not Iran, my theory:
1. We had the logistic tail in place to hit Iraq, Team Clinton started building it in 96/97. 2. KSA wanted us to stop in 91, because they could control Saddam, he was bulwark against the Shia's, and Uday was a loser. But, by 98 they were afraid Qusay was going to replace Saddam in a relatively benign transfer of power - which would start to give his clan distinctly "royal" airs amongst the Arabs. Remember, the House of Saud and the Hashemites of Jordan aren't exactly the House of Windsor -- they are new dynasties without a great deal of automatic deference. 3. Aforementioned fear of burning oil tankers on CNN caused many a State weenie to wet himself 4. CENTCOM was afraid that Iran would make life difficult in Astan if we invaded, but played nice because we were kicking Saddam's ass. Why we didn't invade Iran, after Iraq. I don't know. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 12:02 AM (ztOda) 512
Well then - doing a shot alone.
I almost just responded to The Moo. And that goes against everything I stand for L'chaim! Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 12:02 AM (FuAhx) Posted by: Ron Paul Institute at January 30, 2015 12:02 AM (N21UI) 514
Smoke weed? Fuck no, we know what's best for you.
Vape? F**k no, we know what's best for you. Marry a dude? Fuck no, we know what's best for you/ Not into two dudes marrying? F**k no, bake that f**kin' cake H8r. Buy booze on Sunday? Fuck no, we know what's best for you. Buy a Big Gulp? F**k no, we know what's best for you. Swear in an office? Fuck no, Preacher Huckabee will put an end to that. Express H8 speech by refering to a "trans woman" as a guy? F**k no, diversity training will put an end to that. Have an abortion? Fuck no, we know what's best for you. See a doctor outside of a single payer system? F**k no, only the public healthcare system knows what's best for you. Show a tit on TV? Fuck no, we know what's best for you. And the children, don't forget about those children! Crack a politically incorrect joke on TV? F**k no, we know what's bet for you. And the children, don't for get about those children you X-tian H8r! And on and on.... Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:56 PM (0LHZx) Yup Posted by: The State Will Defend You from Socons! at January 30, 2015 12:03 AM (0Ew3K) 515
The less I know about MooMoo the better. Irrevalent.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 12:03 AM (ucDmr) 516
508 I find it amusing that Mr. Moo Moo thinks I want to control his life.
No, thank you. Posted by: Mindy at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM (81V/7) _________ Are you a SoCon? If you are then yes you most certainly want to control my life as well as everyone else's. I hear there's swearing in NOO York city offices. Someone needs to stop that ASAP. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:03 AM (0LHZx) 517
Hey Man!
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:55 PM (Pauop) ******* Evening Tammy. I would ask if all the things have been solved, but in spot reading this thread I see new and very disturbing things now need to be addressed. *blink* ....*blink...blink* Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 12:05 AM (eLjug) Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 30, 2015 12:05 AM (XmOA9) 519
Yup
Posted by: The State Will Defend You from Socons! at January 30, 2015 12:03 AM (0Ew3K) __________ SoCons, Socialists. Two sides of the same coin. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:05 AM (0LHZx) 520
And I really want to end, or at the very least
severely restrict Muslim immigration to the US, and unlike most, I've actually had plenty of contact with Muslims here and while i have no problem with any of them as individuals, their sheer mass--and sky-high birth rates, along with the fact that their culture and religion is diametrically opposed to ours, scare the shit out of me. It's not that I expect them to commit terrorist acts here, it's that these are the people who--along with their exposure to left-wing college profs--are really going to make this nation unrecognizable. We need to stop the flow. Posted by: JoeF. at January 29, 2015 11:44 PM (8HGb7) Wow, that is some of the most extreme anti-Islamic Islamistaphobiaisticalistism i have ever seen. Posted by: cm9000 You haven't seen me once I get drinking. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 12:05 AM (ztOda) 521
I hear there's swearing in NOO York city offices. Someone needs to stop that ASAP.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo This? After Ace dedicated an entire thread to beating the living shit out him? Moo, you should really try being more moderate. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 12:05 AM (Zi7PZ) 522
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:03 AM (0LHZx)
Please define SoCon so we know what you're talking about. Otherwise your insults are just wasted. Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:06 AM (pAlYe) 523
Suppose Bush had succeeded in putting Iraq on course to becoming a pluralistic, capitalistic democracy, qualitatively changing the trajectory of Iraqi, and therefore world, history. In my opinion, he'd rate FAR above Lincoln, who had fuck-all impact outside of the U.S.
The thing is that Bush may have succeeded. It'll take generations to know for sure. If he did succeed, he will (or should) rate among the greatest of American Presidents. Suppose we had a real American president in office in 2009. When the green revolution struck in Iran, if he'd have supported it and it succeeded, all of that very likely would have come to pass. We might be living in a much, much, much, better world today Posted by: Weirddave at January 30, 2015 12:06 AM (WvS3w) 524
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 29, 2015 11:53 PM (Pauop)
Hey! To move onto the "socon" libertarian beef. I saw someone say that conservatives want limited government until it comes to defining marriage. Well I'll put it the way I always have: either words matter or they don't. When we start - and we have - redefining words then shit really doesn't matter does it? I support same sex unions and all the same benefits but no church should be coerced or forced into marrying same sex couples. If church wishes to do so then that is their business. Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 12:07 AM (R5HRU) 525
MooMoo is like a boil on your ass. You just wish it would go away. Fuck me.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 12:07 AM (ucDmr) 526
I have no problem with gay folks having civil unions.
I have seen some absolute bullshit in my own family with regards to this, and I have pretty strong feelings about it. There should be some kind of legal contractual protections that prevents someone's sister, for instance, from denying you visitation rights when your boyfriend is dying and form being able to decide to pull the plug on someone you have loved and shared a life with for decades, when you want to wait a while longer. Especially when that sister hated you and your boyfriend. But I do NOT believe that any church should be forced to "marry" them and I do not think the entire agenda should be shoved down everyone's throats. We do not need Daddy and Daddy and Me classes at any time, let alone in every grade starting with K. Hell we don't need Daddy and Mommy and Me classes, either. All that bullshit is what turned me against supporting gay marriage at the the ballot box the third time in CA in 2008. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:08 AM (Pauop) 527
Wow, that is some of the most extreme anti-Islamic Islamistaphobiaisticalistism i have ever seen.
Posted by: cm9000 at January 29, 2015 11:58 PM (8zCR+) ******* Well sure, because places like, oh....France....have done so well with tamping down Islamophobia. Gosh, it's a regular harmonic melting pot of assimilation in Paris. Would you care to buy the World a Coke too? Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 12:09 AM (eLjug) 528
Please define SoCon so we know what you're talking about. Otherwise your insults are just wasted.
Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:06 AM (pAlYe) _________ Really? You're splitting hairs on what the word "is" is. You know very well who I am referring to. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:09 AM (0LHZx) 529
Suppose we had a real American president in office
in 2009. When the green revolution struck in Iran, if he'd have supported it and it succeeded, all of that very likely would have come to pass. We might be living in a much, much, much, better world today Posted by: Weirddave So McCain wins, and then has a heart attack Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 12:09 AM (ztOda) 530
You fucking kidding me? Surprised the hull held up. Did you pay extra for the free unlimited booze package they usually offer on cruises?
Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:59 PM (e+1S5) They didn't offer that on this cruise. But some fun facts- they sell 10 normal cruises worth of booze on this 1 cruise alone. The first year they literally drank the ship dry before it left the dock, and were delayed leaving because they needed a resupply. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 30, 2015 12:09 AM (FMbng) 531
OMG, halfrican, I think you're my new son, since Robert has deserted me.
Great minds think alike! Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:09 AM (Pauop) 532
525 MooMoo is like a boil on your ass. You just wish it would go away. Fuck me.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 Genital warts. Just when you thiink they are gone, they reappear. The story of cow pie boi. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2015 12:10 AM (K4xGQ) 533
Suppose Bush had succeeded in putting Iraq on course to becoming a pluralistic, capitalistic democracy, qualitatively changing the trajectory of Iraqi, and therefore world, history.
------- Well at least he did succeed in destabilizing a number of authoritarian regimes in the middle east. I don't think that has been particularly beneficial. And don't forget the eventful Cedar Revolution. That was good too. Posted by: RioBravo at January 30, 2015 12:10 AM (z27Ny) 534
>>>Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM
Dude, you are somewhat (maybe mostly) in line with my thinking but you always manage to make your points in the douchebaggiest way possible. You convince no one, and you turn people like me, small l libertarians, into either enemies or bystanders because I don't want to be associated with you. Reason mag does the same damn thing for big L libertarians. I agree with 90% of what they say....and then it's all Jooos and such, and normal people go....well, if that's what libertarians are, I aren't one. Just stop. I won't condone the dog piling you get, but others here who support gay marriage or legal pot or whatever don't get the same treatment. Why do think that is? Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 12:10 AM (e+1S5) 535
Wheatie @ 506
I'm curious, but no worries. It was hilarious - I recorded the whole interaction on my phone. This girl is staying there with 3 Pomeranians after a house fire (in addition to his own pitbull & fat black lab). She says my dog is pooping when I visit, but we all know it's one of her dogs... Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 12:10 AM (FuAhx) 536
Are you a SoCon? If you are then yes you most certainly want to control my life as well as everyone else's.
I hear there's swearing in NOO York city offices. Someone needs to stop that ASAP. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:03 AM (0LHZx) There is? I'll get right on that, just as soon as I finish taking care of my family and household and serving my clients and community and fellowshipping with my church family and exercising my mind and body and ..... Posted by: Mindy at January 30, 2015 12:11 AM (81V/7) 537
Damn it. The one night I'm traveling and you all decide to throw a Libertarianism bashing thread!
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 30, 2015 12:11 AM (10ydV) 538
The bleary husband manages to focus on the distant distillery and says, "Yeah..., but I got 'em working nights."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2015 11:21 PM (vPh3W) Reminds me of this one: Husband: (rips a huge fart in the bed) Wife: (disgusted) "Every morning you do that, and one day, you are going to shit your guts out" Husband: "yeah, right". Flash forward several months to Thanksgiving morning while the wife is getting the turkey ready and decides to play a trick on him by taking the gizzards and putting them in the seat of his pajamas while he is still asleep. She hears a huge fart coming from the bedroom, then a blood curdling scream and then her husband running to the bathroom. After about 10 minutes of chuckling to herself her husband shows up at the kitchen and says: "Remember when you said that I would fart my guts out? Well it happened and by the grace of God, these two fingers, and some KY jelly I was able to get them back in." Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 30, 2015 12:11 AM (+Fae7) 539
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A lot of "libertarians" were for Obama because they thought he'd "bring the boys home" and then all our foreign problems would go away, and that he couldn't be worse than Bush on domestic issues... Posted by: The Political Hat at January 29, 2015 11:40 PM (0Ew3K) If I recall correctly, Obama ran to the right of McCain on economic issues. He portrayed himself as a responsible deficit-cutter whose policies would benefit the middle class. That's about the time I had my first inkling that every word out of his mouth was a lie. Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2015 12:11 AM (sdi6R) 540
I saw someone say that conservatives want limited government until it comes to defining marriage.
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 12:07 AM (R5HRU) The problem with that statement is that it infers that limited government means no government, which is not true. There is a vast difference between "no" government and "limited" government, to whit: limited government still has some functions and authorities. The problem with people that make statements like that is that they are strawman-toting boneheads. Posted by: Country Singer at January 30, 2015 12:11 AM (nL0sw) 541
Suppose we had a real American president in office
in 2009. When the green revolution struck in Iran, if he'd have supported it and it succeeded, all of that very likely would have come to pass. We might be living in a much, much, much, better world today Posted by: Weirddave at January 30, 2015 12:06 AM (WvS3w) Yep. You're burnishing your reputation for perspicacity (at least with me), Weirdave. Of course, Bush in 2003 had no way of knowing we'd elect the turd we now have in the White House, and he had to make his decision without that knowledge. But if the electorate had somehow (mirabile dictu!) elected a real American as President in 2008, that and so many other things would be different now. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 30, 2015 12:11 AM (oKE6c) 542
Islamistaphobiaisticalistism
------------- cm9000 - My god, man! It is after midnight here. My few remaining active synapses just withered and died. Posted by: Mike Hammer, wearing dark glasses and a hat so no one will recognize him. at January 30, 2015 12:12 AM (vPh3W) 543
388 I sometimes wonder if Bush would have been better off to go full Ronnie RayGun caricature. Just invade a new country that ends in 'stan or has more than 5% of the population named Mohammed. Every single month.
Don't rebuild shit. Just break stuff, kill the dictator of the month, and pack up for home. Really convince the Muzzie world that he's bugfuck nuts and they better start acting right or he might nuke Mecca because his omelette had green peppers instead of poblano peppers. Posted by: DC in River City at January 29, 2015 11:38 PM (e+1S5) That's one fine damn newsletter that would have me throwing money down for an 8 year subscription. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 30, 2015 12:12 AM (+Fae7) 544
I won't condone the dog piling you get, but others here who support gay marriage or legal pot or whatever don't get the same treatment. Why do think that is?
Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 12:10 AM (e+1S5) __________ Cuz I point out the hypocritical bullshit spewed here and that upsets "good conservatives'. Or they hate cows. One of the two. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:12 AM (0LHZx) 545
Really? You're splitting hairs on what the word "is" is.
You know very well who I am referring to. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:09 AM (0LHZx) Actually no I don't. From the context of your comments it seems like everyone who's not in agreement with the libertine no-social-rules-at-all flavor of libertarianism would be considered a SoCon. And therefore a Socialist by your argument. Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:13 AM (pAlYe) 546
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:09 AM (Pauop)
High praise indeed! I've ALWAYS thought this. I'm against "same sex marriage" because I don't like fucking around with words. I support same sex unions and always have. Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 12:13 AM (R5HRU) Posted by: Country Singer at January 30, 2015 12:13 AM (nL0sw) 548
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Chi...I keep trying to reply to your comment about 'Tootsie Rolls', but for some reason Pixy gives me an "error" message. Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2015 12:01 AM (hX3bN) You have to delete the black diamond that his system inserts in his comments. Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 12:13 AM (T1005) 549
>>>When the green revolution struck in Iran, if he'd have
supported it and it succeeded, all of that very likely would have come to pass. We might be living in a much, much, much, better world today No good. I needed the Iranians to provide leverage on Israel so I could destroy it. It's what Rashid wants most. Posted by: Barackhenaten I at January 30, 2015 12:13 AM (7+hc/) 550
The first year they literally drank the ship dry before it left the dock
And I bet you had your fair share! Did they have mead?? Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:14 AM (Pauop) 551
Get help.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2015 11:50 PM (oKE6c) clearly my failure to admit your superior knowledge and wisdom in identifying the correct method in understanding the world makes me mentally ill. That is nice, you can now safely ignore me. Unless you were joking, of course. Then haha. You are so caring. So, what is the best solution of these horrible people who want a liberty different than yours? Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2015 12:14 AM (t//F+) 552
DC River City,
The real reason is that I'm not a fan of religion. And if there's one way to get people pissed off at you is tell a religious person you think religion is bullshit. Meh. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:14 AM (0LHZx) 553
Wow, that is some of the most extreme anti-Islamic Islamistaphobiaisticalistism i have ever seen.
Posted by: cm9000 at January 29, 2015 11:58 PM (8zCR+) ******* Well sure, because places like, oh....France....have done so well with tamping down Islamophobia. Gosh, it's a regular harmonic melting pot of assimilation in Paris. Would you care to buy the World a Coke too? Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 12:09 AM (eLjug) ******* Sorry, just reread and realized I need a recalibration on my Sarc meter. My bad. Been a long day. Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 12:14 AM (z2f1n) 554
Suppose we had a real American president in office
in 2009. When the green revolution struck in Iran, if he'd have supported it and it succeeded, all of that very likely would have come to pass. We might be living in a much, much, much, better world today Posted by: Weirddave at January 30, 2015 12:06 AM (WvS3w) And the converse is also true: suppose Bush hadn't invaded Iraq. Would the green revolution even have taken place? Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 30, 2015 12:15 AM (oKE6c) 555
Posted by: Country Singer at January 30, 2015 12:11 AM (nL0sw)
True but I'll go in on the debate mainly because I think it's important to differentiate between "NO GHEYZ!" and "Naw I don't believe in gay marriage but I support gay unions." They are two different things. Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 12:15 AM (R5HRU) 556
MH: I'm back. Just needed recharging man. That MooMoo dude is one elite better than you asshole sometimes. Pretty sure I could buy him out twice. If not, I could sue him to oblivion. Fuckin poser.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 12:15 AM (ucDmr) 557
Don't rebuild shit. Just break stuff, kill the dictator of the month, and pack up for home.
----- That would have conveyed strength and been a lot less costly in every way. Would have avoided much of the recruiting aids for the muzzie extremists that our clusterfuck nation-building exercises became. Posted by: RioBravo at January 30, 2015 12:15 AM (z27Ny) 558
Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:08 AM
Yeah, I was Okay with government getting out of the marriage license business altogether, and only documenting "civil unions". Leave marriage as a religious sacrament, as it has been for thousands of years and in most religions, as between one man an one woman, united and sanctified before God. But the activist class and the courts will have none of that. Nothing outside the state, nothing but the state. And now the word marriage means nothing. Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 30, 2015 12:15 AM (XmOA9) 559
Well sure, because places like, oh....France....have done so well with tamping down Islamophobia. Gosh, it's a regular harmonic melting pot of assimilation in Paris.
Would you care to buy the World a Coke too? Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 12:09 AM (eLjug) we only burnt 27 cars yesterday, but on Friday after prayers, we gunna have us some car-b-q good times eleventy Posted by: No Go Zone #583 at January 30, 2015 12:16 AM (N21UI) 560
All moo moo does is take whatever position he thinks will give him the ability to claim to be the intellectual and moral superior to the majority of people here and he takes it. Facts don't matter. He's nothing but a miserable contrarian troll.
Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2015 12:16 AM (zt+N6) 561
Alex, would you be a basher or a bash-ee?
Posted by: Mindy at January 30, 2015 12:16 AM (81V/7) 562
Enough asshole for me tonight. And, no, that wasn't a chocolate reference.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 30, 2015 12:16 AM (L6/+u) Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 30, 2015 12:16 AM (W5DcG) 564
when the green revolution struck in Iran, if he'd have
supported it and it succeeded, all of that very likely would have come to pass. We might be living in a much, much, much, better world today That broke my heart. Bush's Iraq policy was working, the dominoes were starting to fall...and then the Fucktard. Except I don't think it was stupidity that kept him from helping. You are so right, it was intentional. And God knows what Jarrett's ties are there, financially and otherwise. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:16 AM (Pauop) 565
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Except for a long time, the govt penalized married people. Ever hear of the marriage penalty? But aside from that little issue, your argument is spot on. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 29, 2015 11:59 PM (0LHZx) Yeah, marriage penalty for certain ranges of incomes (thanks to lefties and other idiots complicating the tax code - completely different topic), but overall, married people pay lower rates. Posted by: Ian Galt at January 30, 2015 12:02 AM (dmepw) Marriage penalty increased as both spouses earned the same; marriage benefit increased the more disparate the incomes. In other words, if I earned $0 and had a wife that earned $200K, we'd pay less if we filed together. If both wife and I earned $100K each, we'd pay more if we filed together. Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 12:17 AM (T1005) 566
You get the docs OK?
Posted by: Country Singer at January 30, 2015 12:13 AM (nL0sw) I did. Thank you so much! It actually tied into stuff we were talking about at this working group. Basically we're trying to restructure our COIST training and integrate it with ISR training, Operational Environment training, and company command post ops. Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 30, 2015 12:17 AM (10ydV) 567
>>>They didn't offer that on this cruise. But some fun facts- they sell 10 normal cruises worth of booze on this 1 cruise alone. The first year they literally drank the ship dry before it left the dock, and were delayed leaving because they needed a resupply.
I can see why they didn't offer that option. That is awesome. Last cruise Cougar and I took, Christmas 2013, we bought the booze package. It was like $50 per person per day. It also included all the espresso and ice cream and other specialty shit where they really up charge you. At day two, I calculated our bill, and figured that even if we didn't have another drink for the rest of the trip, we would have still saved over $200. I loved that shit. Everyone else was at the bar handing over cash or credit cards for cans of Coors Light, and I walk up and get 4 Tuaca shots and 2 rum and cokes. No, put down the well rum. There's a bottle of Private Stock right there. Use that. Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 12:18 AM (e+1S5) 568
556 MH: I'm back. Just needed recharging man. That MooMoo dude is one elite better than you asshole sometimes. Pretty sure I could buy him out twice. If not, I could sue him to oblivion. Fuckin poser.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 12 I am not worthy to tie his shoes. :-) Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2015 12:18 AM (K4xGQ) 569
Mindy, I'd be bashing it.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 30, 2015 12:18 AM (10ydV) 570
And therefore a Socialist by you're argument.
Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:13 AM (pAlYe) ___________ A socialist in the sense that both SoCons and socialists want control over people. Do SoCons want the govt to run the economy? No. But they want to control my life in aspects of what I do in the bedroom, what I ingest, what I watch on TV/online, who I can marry, what my kids will learn in school (evolution should not be a 4 letter word). I'm not sure one's worse than the other. One side wants to ban salt from my diet. One side wants to ban weed from my "diet". Where's the difference? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:19 AM (0LHZx) 571
little breather... Whats the next two lines, name of song, and band? [iNow some they do and some they don't And some you just can't tell Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 30, 2015 12:19 AM (K8c3j) 572
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Well then - doing a shot alone. I almost just responded to The Moo. And that goes against everything I stand for L'chaim! Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 12:02 AM (FuAhx) Prost! Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 12:19 AM (T1005) 573
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 30, 2015 12:17 AM (10ydV)
Happy to help out! I know one of the biggest PITAs we collectively have to deal with is no one knowing what another echelon/CoE is doing and everyone ending up wasting a lot of time, money, and effort. I try to mitigate it when I can. Posted by: Country Singer at January 30, 2015 12:19 AM (nL0sw) Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:20 AM (pAlYe) 575
And if there's one way to get people pissed off at you
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:14 AM (0LHZx) You know a lot more than just one way. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 30, 2015 12:20 AM (W5DcG) 576
MH: Pretty sure you could piss on his shoes and tell him it's raining. Never ever back off a good thing. A throat punch is always best.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 12:20 AM (ucDmr) 577
548...You have to delete the black diamond that his system inserts in his comments.
Ah! ...Thanks, cthulhu. I'll bet that's what it was. I tried three times to quote chi, and pixy kept saying "Nyet! 404 Error". Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2015 12:21 AM (hX3bN) 578
574 But they want to control my life in aspects of what I do in the bedroom
Example? Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:20 AM (pAlYe) ___________ Ask Senor Cooch. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:21 AM (0LHZx) Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 12:22 AM (R5HRU) 580
clearly my failure to admit your superior knowledge
and wisdom in identifying the correct method in understanding the world makes me mentally ill. Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2015 12:14 AM (t//F+) Recognition is the first step. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 30, 2015 12:22 AM (oKE6c) Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:22 AM (pAlYe) 582
Create a long word like antidisestablishmentarianism. I'm going with antiarabisticallislamicaphobialistialism.
Posted by: cm9000 at January 30, 2015 12:23 AM (8zCR+) 583
574 But they want to control my life in aspects of what I do in the bedroom
Example? Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:20 AM (pAlYe) Dear God, man, think what you're asking, and withdraw your question! Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 30, 2015 12:23 AM (oKE6c) 584
Marriage penalty increased as both spouses earned
the same; marriage benefit increased the more disparate the incomes. In other words, if I earned $0 and had a wife that earned $200K, we'd pay less if we filed together. If both wife and I earned $100K each, we'd pay more if we filed together. Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 12:17 AM (T1005) Thanks for the clarification!I try to repress as much as possible about the details of the tax code, so as not to go into an uncontrollable rage stroke....lol... Posted by: Ian Galt at January 30, 2015 12:23 AM (dmepw) 585
It does not work.
It's great theory, and as little government as necessary to do the constituted duties of government should be the goal, but the choice isn't Libertarianism or Wilson. False dichotomy. Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2015 11:54 PM (XmOA9) Good, finally we have an position to argue other than "icky" There is no need for a dichotomy. What is being argued should not be some "no true Scotsman" false logic or some sterile A or B stance, but a question of how to increase liberty, and protect it from those who would take it away. It is really a continuum, not black and white to fight to the death like the Patriots and the Seahawks. Because this is real life and real people and their lives and how much they should be allowed to keep or if anyone can SAY how much the can keep. I'm a prick. I'm sorry but I intend to be a prick. I think this is an important argument and it is more than "libertarianism is icky" it is what is the best way to safeguard our lives and liberties. I am sorry I intended to make you all mad, but bumperstickers are bumperstickers no matter what side you claim the angels are on. Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2015 12:23 AM (t//F+) 586
It's late who is this señor Cooch?m
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2015 12:23 AM (K4xGQ) 587
581 Ask Senor Cooch.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:21 AM (0LHZx) ?? Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:22 AM (pAlYe) ______ Cuccineli...law to ban oral sex...ring any bells? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:23 AM (0LHZx) 588
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 12:05 AM (eLjug)
Yea, nuthin' gettin fixed tonight. Fractious. We are all feeling fractious this evening. I started off feeling bumptious, what with being hat-tipped twice now, but now I'm feeling all tetchy and annoyed. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:24 AM (Pauop) Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2015 12:24 AM (t//F+) 590
Early meeting tomorrow. Gotta get some sleep. Night all.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:24 AM (0LHZx) Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 30, 2015 12:24 AM (XmOA9) 592
As a SoCon, another person's bedroom is the last place I want to be. Unfortunately, other people keep bringing their bedrooms to me to rub my nose in.
Posted by: Mindy at January 30, 2015 12:24 AM (81V/7) Posted by: eman at January 30, 2015 12:24 AM (MQEz6) 594
Nobody wants to keep you from biting your pillow MooMoo. What you and Tristan do in there is your own business.
Posted by: Garrett at January 30, 2015 12:25 AM (7+hc/) 595
Whatever, I've got a home office day tomorrow. Which sounds awesome, but it always ends up being a 12 hour day instead of just 10.
Tomorrow will be dedicated to becoming a SME on a bunch of industry regs and laws. Only about 500 pages of data to sort through and digest. With that in mind....who's up for a shot? Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 12:25 AM (e+1S5) 596
"Goodbye Stranger"...?
Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2015 12:25 AM (hX3bN) 597
Oh look Moo Moo running away when he might be exposed as the idiot that he is.
Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2015 12:25 AM (zt+N6) 598
Now some they will and some they won't ,
and some it's just as well. Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 30, 2015 12:25 AM (XmOA9) 599
A true Libertarian wouldn't join a club that calls themselves libertarians. He, or she is averse to joining political parties.
Posted by: Middle Class at January 30, 2015 12:26 AM (TzeLs) 600
When I heard the voice, said you got a choice: The hammer or the nail.
Posted by: RJD at January 30, 2015 12:26 AM (4uxf8) 601
Shots during the week are no good for me.
Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2015 12:26 AM (zt+N6) 602
I started off feeling bumptious, what with being hat-tipped twice now, but now I'm feeling all tetchy and annoyed.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:24 AM (Pauop) Then let's talk about shoes! Or garden plans! Or guns! Or food! Posted by: Mindy at January 30, 2015 12:27 AM (81V/7) 603
I thought ONT was more for fun - I think I'll check email, then take what's left of this bottle & walk next door.
Too much "morning thread" smell in here for me - I love too many people here to get involved. Hell, some of you, I might even admit I really like. Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 12:28 AM (FuAhx) 604
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I won't condone the dog piling you get, but others here who support gay marriage or legal pot or whatever don't get the same treatment. Why do think that is? Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 12:10 AM (e+1S5) __________ Cuz I point out the hypocritical bullshit spewed here and that upsets "good conservatives'. Or they hate cows. One of the two. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:12 AM (0LHZx) No, you're just unpleasant. Sometimes your actual arguments make sense and there are occasionally places where people might think that they could build a bridge....and then you veer off into something else. Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 12:28 AM (T1005) 605
435 Libertarians always fight hard for their social causes -- weed, gay marriage, etc -- but never seem to fight much for their supposed economic beliefs like pushing back against minimum wage laws and other price controls.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 29, 2015 11:46 PM (ZPrif) Yes, I've noticed this too. Posted by: Lily at January 30, 2015 12:28 AM (dXCcK) 606
Shredded chi, I like you.
Posted by: Mindy at January 30, 2015 12:29 AM (81V/7) 607
Posted by: Mindy at January 30, 2015 12:27 AM (81V/7)
Or boys! Better yet, perfume. Sniffed any good ones of late? Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:29 AM (Pauop) 608
Is MooMoo real? Or did Ace create him to trip our trigger?
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 12:29 AM (ucDmr) 609
I did find one place that had decent pizza the last time I was in San Fran. nothing worth eating twice, though.
...but really the entire city sucks. Posted by: Garrett at January 30, 2015 12:30 AM (7+hc/) 610
Cuccineli...law to ban oral sex...ring any bells?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:23 AM (0LHZx) My recollection is that the law in question had to do with sexual predators and oral sex. And Cuccinelli didn't propose the law - it was already an existing one in Virginia. Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:30 AM (pAlYe) 611
Shredded chi, I like you.
Posted by: Mindy at January 30, 2015 12:29 AM (81V/7) Me too! Lots! And I agree about the ONTs getting all daywalkery and bitey. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:30 AM (Pauop) 612
Shredded chi, I like you.
Posted by: Mindy at January 30, 2015 12:29 AM (81V/7) I just had a vision of fluttering eyelashes framed by lots of empty Valu-Rite bottles. Posted by: Country Singer at January 30, 2015 12:30 AM (nL0sw) 613
Cuccineli...law to ban oral sex...ring any bells?
Posted by: Mr. Moo --------------------- Whup! Up jumps another strawman. Should I explain this, or would you care to elucidate us regarding the case...., as opposed to the law..., or both? Posted by: Mike Hammer, wearing dark glasses and a hat so no one will recognize him. at January 30, 2015 12:30 AM (vPh3W) 614
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little breather... Whats the next two lines, name of song, and band? [iNow some they do and some they don't And some you just can't tell Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 30, 2015 12:19 AM (K8c3j) Supertramp, Goodby Stranger.... Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 12:31 AM (T1005) Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 30, 2015 12:31 AM (ijU8G) 616
Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 12:10 AM (e+1S5)
Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 12:28 AM (T1005) Ditto and ditto. I like him just fine mostly. But then he gets... I dunno, pissy? I just try and stay out of it when he gets all torqued up. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:32 AM (Pauop) 617
What were the 10 Commandments for fappers, again?
Posted by: Ian Galt at January 30, 2015 12:32 AM (dmepw) 618
Yea, nuthin' gettin fixed tonight.
Fractious. We are all feeling fractious this evening. I started off feeling bumptious, what with being hat-tipped twice now, but now I'm feeling all tetchy and annoyed. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:24 AM (Pauop) ******* Yeah, I caught that mood. Staying low and keeping small until things cool out, because I don't feel strongly enough about the arguments being made to want to jump into the shitstorm. Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 12:32 AM (z2f1n) 619
Whup! Up jumps another strawman. Should I explain this, or would you care to elucidate us regarding the case...., as opposed to the law..., or both?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, wearing dark glasses and a hat so no one will recognize him. at January 30, 2015 12:30 AM (vPh3W) Remember when I said he doesn't actually care about what the facts are earlier in the thread? This is another example. Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2015 12:33 AM (zt+N6) 620
I just had a vision of fluttering eyelashes framed by lots of empty Valu-Rite bottles.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 30, 2015 12:30 AM (nL0sw) Nonsense. Mindy is a sweetheart and a lady. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:33 AM (Pauop) 621
>>>No, you're just unpleasant.
Ding ding ding. I'm pro weed (knowing all of the downsides) and pretty much indifferent about whether gays marry or not. And yet, I never seem to get the full moo moo treatment. I'm probably in the minority here on the former, certainly on the latter, but I just don't care what you (generic you, not you cthullu) think. No one here is changing national policy on anything, it's just shouting into the internet. Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 12:33 AM (e+1S5) Posted by: Garrett at January 30, 2015 12:33 AM (7+hc/) 623
Teenagers often think adults are hypocrites.. Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 30, 2015 12:33 AM (ijU8G) 624
>>> Cuccineli...law to ban oral sex...ring any bells?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:23 AM (0LHZx) Oh no dude, get your trolling talking points straight: Corey Gardner wants to ban oral sex. Mitt Romney wants to ban tampons. Cuccinelli wants to ban dancing. Posted by: L, elle at January 30, 2015 12:34 AM (2x3L+) 625
Jay, I agree with your take on the Iraq situation. I do believe it was our attempt to make them the "beacon on the hill" for the Middle East.
I think it offered the best shot for an Arab democracy; but after Obama's bumbling, & withdrawal of combat troops....it's gone to shit. If Iraq couldn't have democracy take hold, is it possible for any Arab country? Any country with a muslim majority to retain a democracy? When a few thousand menacing ISIS members invaded, an Iraqi army that outnumbered & outgunned them shit their drawers and ran away. I'm getting cynical enough to just about hope for the giant glass parking lot where desert used to be. Posted by: Landofskybluewater at January 30, 2015 12:34 AM (JoIcn) 626
kbdabear has surely posted some boobs by now?
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:34 AM (Pauop) 627
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You can't get good pizza in the Bay Area. Posted by: eman at January 30, 2015 12:24 AM (MQEz6) What kind do you like? Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 12:34 AM (T1005) 628
Recognition is the first step.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 30, 2015 12:22 AM (oKE6c) I am so glad I have you in my life to show me the error of my ways.Can I get some logic and goals to improve my life or is it just cfku you Kindltot you pirck you are a terrible person cfku off and die? Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2015 12:34 AM (t//F+) 629
but bumperstickers are bumperstickers no matter what side you claim the angels are on."
Yeah, I hear you. LIV land: Libertarian=smoke pot and other libertine activities. Constitutional Republic=WTF? if I gotta look it up or study, fuck it. Bush Lied, Thousands Died=Fuck Yeah! Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 30, 2015 12:35 AM (XmOA9) 630
Cuccineli...law to ban oral sex...ring any bells?
That reminds me of a liberal (former) friend. During the Clinton impeachment, he said, "Do you think I'm going to vote for a party that wants to outlaw oral sex?" Idjit. Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2015 12:35 AM (sdi6R) 631
Yeah, I caught that mood. Staying low and keeping small until things cool out, because I don't feel strongly enough about the arguments being made to want to jump into the shitstorm.
--------------- Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room? Posted by: Big Daddy at January 30, 2015 12:35 AM (vPh3W) 632
Nonsense. Mindy is a sweetheart and a lady.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:33 AM (Pauop) It was a sort of a stream of consciousness thing that popped in my head, not intended as a slight. Posted by: Country Singer at January 30, 2015 12:35 AM (nL0sw) 633
I agree. Needs more boobs.
Posted by: Garrett at January 30, 2015 12:33 AM (7+hc/) Hey you got anuses and flappers - what more do you want? Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:35 AM (pAlYe) 634
Big Popcorn pranks Berkeley!
http://tinyurl.com/ldqsqdn A summary: An abrasive radical-left black "comedian" goes to a left-leaning cafe in a leftist neighborhood in Berkeley and claims -- with absolutely no evidence -- that he was the victim of racism there. What was the shocking, horrifying, history-changing incident which he claims occurred? He was dressed in a dark hoodie that was covering his face. He walked up to the cafe and started talking to people sitting at an outdoor table. (The people at the table were in fact his wife and her friends.) The neighborhood has a problem with bums harassing outdoor cafe patrons. So an employee tapped on the window and made a head motion indicating that he should leave. And she may have mouthed "Go" or "Scram." The end. Ot so he claims. Well, he wrote an essay about it on his blog, and it went totally viral on the left, and now the cafe's reputation is totally ruined. Its average Yelp rating went from 5 stars to 1.0001 stars within just a couple hours as every Social Justice Warrior in America went to Yelp and wrote one-star reviews, ranting about how racist the cafe is. The owner had no clue that the incident even ever occurred (which it probably didn't do anyway, but that's another issue) He didn't know when employee had tapped on the window. But within the span of a few hours his lifetime's work of building up the business was in ruins. Since the moment he found out, he's been groveling like a beaten puppy, apologized 100 times an hour and begging the comedian to do something to save his business. So the comedian is now inviting him onstage to have a public shaming session as part of a "discussion about race." All of this is beyond belief. Every day, leftism and political correctness and mob behavior spirals ever more insanely out of control. I'd be more outraged, except for the fact that the cafe owner is a moonbat too, caught in the whipsaw crossfire of 2015 race-baiting. Oh, Big Popcorn, you are clever! You forced us to buy so much as we watch the entertaining fiascos you stage! Posted by: zombie at January 30, 2015 12:35 AM (K4YiS) 635
Tammy: Ever check out Southside Johnny and the song Ride the Night Away? Damn good old time rockn roll.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 12:36 AM (ucDmr) 636
Here is a link to the a section of the VA Crimes Against Nature code. Cucci was opposed to a bill to remove this from the legal code.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yvq6b Posted by: RioBravo at January 30, 2015 12:36 AM (z27Ny) 637
Posted by: zombie at January 30, 2015 12:35 AM (K4YiS)
*didn't read shit other than zombie* zombie! good to see you alive Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 12:36 AM (R5HRU) 638
Maetenloch...
Are we still going to get the answer to your "thought question"? You know, this one: "Thought question: Why do guys universally experience so much anxiety and the fight-or-flight response when approaching a woman they don't know? They're in absolutely no physical danger from her and the worst thing that she could do would be to reject their attentions. I'll tell you the answer later in the ONT." Personally, I think its probably because guys don't want to be laughed at, especially at a vulnerable time like that. But women experience the same thing...it's not just a guy thing. Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2015 12:36 AM (hX3bN) 639
Remember when Cory Gardner wanted to take away Sweetpea's dildo? Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 30, 2015 12:37 AM (ijU8G) 640
With that in mind....who's up for a shot?
Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 12:25 AM (e+1S5) ******* No shots here, but if a Tall beer counts, I'm in. Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 12:38 AM (eLjug) 641
Holy crap! I'm finally caught up!
Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 12:38 AM (T1005) 642
Gordon Ramsay has a new season of Kitchen Nightmares. But its the UK version so its on BBC America. Back to the form of the original UK version which is his narration and much less of a focus on family drama and loud overblown fights.
Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2015 12:38 AM (zt+N6) 643
ColoAlex, Your ISR training has to an understanding of the concepts of Search Theory and Probability of Intercept. I was training the BP guys on the Cerebeus Towers and they were using some DA/COIST materials that failed to convey the limitations of ISR to the next layer up the chain. They tended to think that the area of regard was covered 24/7 and they didn't have to worry about it.
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 12:38 AM (ztOda) 644
Posted by: Country Singer at January 30, 2015 12:35 AM (nL0sw)
Oh I know I know! I was just...well I wasn't kidding, she IS a sweetheart and a lady. But I was just funning along, sorry if I sounded scoldy! I am apparently bad about that of late. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:38 AM (Pauop) 645
Now off to ogle the KBDaBear links!
Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 12:39 AM (T1005) 646
625 Jay, I agree with your take on the Iraq situation. I do believe it was our attempt to make them the "beacon on the hill" for the Middle East.
I think it offered the best shot for an Arab democracy; but after Obama's bumbling, withdrawal of combat troops....it's gone to shit. If Iraq couldn't have democracy take hold, is it possible for any Arab country? Any country with a muslim majority to retain a democracy? Posted by: Landofskybluewater at January 30, 2015 12:34 AM (JoIcn) It was never a good shot, but it was our only shot, I think. And you're right: if Iraq can't make it, can any other Arab country - with necessarily less going for it - make it? Debatable, at best. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 30, 2015 12:39 AM (oKE6c) 647
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 12:36 AM (ucDmr)
I have not, but thank you much for the recommendation! I will own it before daybreaks tomorrow. Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:40 AM (Pauop) 648
Well, thank you, ladies.
you're gonna make me blush, or say something inappropriate. I think I'll stick with blushing. I think The Moo is OK sometimes, and occasionally agree with it, but I typically just ignore it. It lost me when there was a claim of a 600 amp service coming into his home (i've never heard of such a thing, and have wired multi-million dollar, 10,000 sq ft homes with 200 amp service). Basically, I take him for an intelligent troll. And now, I will pour a few more shots - there is Cap't Morgan & Jim Beam available... Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 12:40 AM (FuAhx) 649
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So the comedian is now inviting him onstage to have a public shaming session as part of a "discussion about race." All of this is beyond belief. Every day, leftism and political correctness and mob behavior spirals ever more insanely out of control. I said earlier tonight that we may be closer to Red Guards and re-education camps than we think. I'd be more outraged, except for the fact that the cafe owner is a moonbat too, caught in the whipsaw crossfire of 2015 race-baiting. Posted by: zombie at January 30, 2015 12:35 AM (K4YiS) Eff him. The phrase "hoist on one's own petard" comes to mind. Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2015 12:41 AM (sdi6R) 650
BRING BACK BL@ZER!!
Posted by: The Dude at January 30, 2015 12:41 AM (SyKbw) 651
>>>No shots here, but if a Tall beer counts, I'm in.
Fuck it, close enough. I'll be back in a minute with a shot and a toast. Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 12:41 AM (e+1S5) Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 12:41 AM (R5HRU) 653
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:38 AM (Pauop)
No worries. I think everyone is still a little on edge after Ultimate Concern Troll Moo Moo's little escapade in here tonight. Posted by: Country Singer at January 30, 2015 12:41 AM (nL0sw) 654
Fight or flight because in our natural state we would likely be stealing the woman from another male?
Posted by: Garrett at January 30, 2015 12:41 AM (7+hc/) 655
I am so glad I have you in my life to show me the
error of my ways.Can I get some logic and goals to improve my life or is it just cfku you Kindltot you pirck you are a terrible person cfku off and die? Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2015 12:34 AM (t//F+)]/i] No. You have failed the pons asinorum. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 30, 2015 12:41 AM (oKE6c) 656
638 Maetenloch... Are we still going to get the answer to your "thought question"? You know, this one: "Thought question: Why do guys universally experience so much anxiety and the fight-or-flight response when approaching a woman they don't know? They're in absolutely no physical danger from her and the worst thing that she could do would be to reject their attentions. I'll tell you the answer later in the ONT." Personally, I think its probably because guys don't want to be laughed at, especially at a vulnerable time like that. But women experience the same thing...it's not just a guy thing. Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2015 12:36 AM (hX3bN) I think its a sort of a predator instinct. And since we know its engaging prey that is just as "deadly," so it sets off the full alertthe sabertooth cat might guy you instead of its just a little bunny for lunch. Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2015 12:42 AM (zt+N6) 657
barrel?
Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2015 12:42 AM (t//F+) 658
I'm probably in the minority here on the former, certainly on the latter, but I just don't care what you (generic you, not you cthullu) think. No one here is changing national policy on anything, it's just shouting into the internet.
Posted by: DC in River City There's quite a difference between 'I think X is ok' and 'I insist you agree, you neo-con dink what earns less than I pay in taxes, *SNIFF*' Moo is laboring under the idea that the later is influential. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 12:42 AM (Zi7PZ) Posted by: Mindy at January 30, 2015 12:42 AM (81V/7) 660
The real reason is that I'm not a fan of religion. And if there's one
way to get people pissed off at you is tell a religious person you think religion is bullshit. They'll pray for you, which is boring. For real fun, point out to an atheist that their worldview functions as a religion (or that claiming there is no God is as much a function of faith as claiming there is). Now that's a party! Posted by: Weirddave at January 30, 2015 12:42 AM (WvS3w) 661
Damn, they're already posting vids. I was in front of the orange shirt security dude on the far left by the bass player. I haven't seen myself yet in the vids, but the long hair freak headbanging over there would be me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkFAdH3lXws Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 30, 2015 12:42 AM (FMbng) 662
Tammy: I don't think you will be disappointed. Guitars, horns, and really good rocknroll. My wife loves it.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 12:42 AM (ucDmr) 663
Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?
Posted by: Big Daddy at January 30, 2015 12:35 AM (vPh3W) ****** Well.....yeah. That's when I got all small and stuff. Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 12:43 AM (5kNXS) 664
Antipanarabisticislamaphobicalistism.
Posted by: cm9000 at January 30, 2015 12:44 AM (8zCR+) 665
Posted by: Weirddave at January 30, 2015 12:42 AM (WvS3w)
That's why I enjoy referring to them as "Evangelical Atheists." Really sticks in their craws. Posted by: Country Singer at January 30, 2015 12:44 AM (nL0sw) 666
Oh no dude, get your trolling talking points straight:
Corey Gardner wants to ban oral sex. Mitt Romney wants to ban tampons. Cuccinelli wants to ban dancing. Posted by: L, elle at January 30, 2015 12:34 AM (2x3L+) Who's on first? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2015 12:44 AM (K4xGQ) 667
Night, Mindy!
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:44 AM (Pauop) 668
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Well, thank you, ladies. you're gonna make me blush, or say something inappropriate. I think I'll stick with blushing. I think The Moo is OK sometimes, and occasionally agree with it, but I typically just ignore it. It lost me when there was a claim of a 600 amp service coming into his home (i've never heard of such a thing, and have wired multi-million dollar, 10,000 sq ft homes with 200 amp service). Basically, I take him for an intelligent troll. And now, I will pour a few more shots - there is Cap't Morgan Jim Beam available... Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 12:40 AM (FuAhx) I'd actually take the exact opposite stance to Moo being an intelligent troll -- I think he's half-intelligent (on the "bright" side of average, but no genius), and really wants to fit in....but can't keep himself from wanting to "score points" against people technically more astute. Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 12:45 AM (T1005) 669
Why do guys universally experience so much anxiety and the fight-or-flight response when approaching a woman they don't know?
------------------- I think that 'universally' may be overstating things a little. I generally am very comfortable interacting with women in general. I find it easier to establish a rapport with most strange women than strange men. And by strange, I mean people that I haven't met previously. In either case, if you can cause the other person to laugh, or see the humor in whatever circumstances you find yourself, then you are 3/4 of the way to an easy relationship. People want to feel comfortable. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 12:45 AM (2Aj5D) 670
Reason #12? Jeeze! That's like reason #1,012 why I am not a libertarian!
It's a ersatz religion for 14-year-old boys and people who think like 14-year-old boys. "But I want to do this! If I want to do something and it doesn't kill someone within five minutes, I should be allowed to do it!" Alex Jones is a libertarian. That paints the picture for me right there. Posted by: RKae at January 30, 2015 12:45 AM (1fhPE) 671
Ok hard drinkers, let's drink hard.
To our wives To our girlfriends To the women we love... May they never meet! Slainte! Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 12:45 AM (e+1S5) 672
And the converse is also true: suppose Bush hadn't invaded Iraq. Would the green revolution even have taken place?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 30, 2015 12:15 AM (oKE6c) No. Part of the reason for going into both Afghanistan and Iraq was that we could put the squeeze on Iran, and if they started trying to get frisky with their nuclear plants, we had bases to take it out. Barky gave all that up real fast like. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 30, 2015 12:46 AM (+Fae7) 673
It lost me when there was a claim of a 600 amp service coming into his home (i've never heard of such a thing, and have wired multi-million dollar, 10,000 sq ft homes with 200 amp service).
------- 600 amp residential is done. Posted by: RioBravo at January 30, 2015 12:46 AM (z27Ny) 674
>>> >>>Remember when Cory Gardner wanted to take away Sweetpea's dildo?
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 30, 2015 12:37 AM (ijU8G) Ahem. It was Sweetpea's condoms, I believe. The Ace-man said so. Posted by: L, elle at January 30, 2015 12:46 AM (2x3L+) 675
Oh, Big Popcorn, you are clever! You forced us to buy so much as we watch the entertaining fiascos you stage!
Posted by: zombie at January 30, 2015 12:35 AM (K4YiS) Ah, "Big Popcorn?" Now where have I heard that phrase? /kidding Seriously, it's entertaining to see the leftists re-enacting the Reign of Terror, albeit bloodlessly. The "comedian" does not want a "discussion about race." Not a frank one, certainly. I think we all know that. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 30, 2015 12:47 AM (oKE6c) Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 12:47 AM (R5HRU) 677
Well.....yeah. That's when I got all small and stuff.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty ------------- Pretty easy to be small next to Burl Ives. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 12:47 AM (2Aj5D) 678
Pretty easy to be small next to Burl Ives.
Posted by: Mike Hammer ---------- Except for Brian Dennehy Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 12:48 AM (2Aj5D) 679
I dont like labeling people on the internet who disagree with me trolls. And I dont care for the personal insults. Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 30, 2015 12:48 AM (ijU8G) 680
halfrican!
We don't talk much, but I've always like you - hell yes we're doing shots. How are you? I'll give it two minutes (pixy time) for anyone else to join in. *already have one poured for the lurking pretty Sgt. Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 12:48 AM (FuAhx) 681
671 Ok hard drinkers, let's drink hard. To our wives To our girlfriends To the women we love... May they never meet! Slainte! Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 12:45 AM (e+1S5) I'll give you a toast you can use sometime. And fitting since you are a worthless pothead that loves the gheys. Here's to you Here's to me Best friends as friends can be But if we should ever disagree Fuck you, Here's to me. Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2015 12:48 AM (zt+N6) Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 30, 2015 12:50 AM (XmOA9) 683
656...I think its a sort of a predator instinct. And since we know its engaging prey that is just as "deadly," so it sets off the full alertthe sabertooth cat might guy you instead of its just a little bunny for lunch.
Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2015 12:42 AM (zt+N6) ---------- Heh. ...Maybe so. "This woman is going to tear me to shreds"? Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2015 12:50 AM (hX3bN) Posted by: Zombie Robin Williams... Just Hangin' Around at January 30, 2015 12:50 AM (fLKzW) 685
I see a picture of Michael Gross with the Tremors post. Recently started watching a few episodes of Family Ties on Netflix because I remember really liking it as a young 'un.
I had forgotten how much the parents Steven (Michael Gross) & Elise Keaton were written to be over the top liberals, but I did remember Alex's love for Reagan & conservatism. I remember liking the character of Alex and even as a kid of 5-10 thinking....hmmm, he makes sense. And legal age Mallory......I'd hit it. Posted by: Landofskybluewater at January 30, 2015 12:50 AM (JoIcn) 686
636 Here is a link to the a section of the VA Crimes Against Nature code. Cucci was opposed to a bill to remove this from the legal code. http://preview.tinyurl.com/yvq6b Posted by: RioBravo at January 30, 2015 12:36 AM (z27Ny) It's late. My reading is a prevention of family trees looking like telephone poles. Amirite? I've been away has he departed? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2015 12:50 AM (K4xGQ) 687
Sierra Nevada Torpedo Extra IPA *clinks glass on monitor frame*
Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 12:51 AM (T1005) 688
672 And the converse is also true: suppose Bush hadn't invaded Iraq. Would the green revolution even have taken place?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 30, 2015 12:15 AM (oKE6c) No. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 30, 2015 12:46 AM (+Fae7) That's pretty much my take too, but for philosophical, rather than logistical, reasons. I see Iran 2009 as being pretty much in the position of Poland 1989: a restive population looking for moral support (at least) from outside. Bush's intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq provided a basis for hoping such support might be forthcoming from the U.S. The election of the Marxist Mahdi, however, betrayed that hope. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 30, 2015 12:52 AM (oKE6c) 689
In other news, that's a lot of bacon:
http://tinyurl.com/p5b2r79 And on that note, I'm calling it a night. Y'all take care. Posted by: Country Singer at January 30, 2015 12:52 AM (nL0sw) 690
Those rules for flappers say, "Be on guard at all times against 'the flipper."
Is that what they called dicks back in the 20's? Or was rapey dolphin sex a problem even in those days? Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 30, 2015 12:53 AM (+XMAD) 691
I'm not a habitual reader of Reason, although I did subscribe to the dead-tree magazine for a couple of years in the late 90s.
The other day Instapundit linked to an article about Bob Dylan by Nick Gillespie. The article itself was fine. The comments were another story. There were about 300, only half of which had anything to do with the article. The rest were arguments about overrated musicians and dick-measuring contests about who liked the coolest obscure bands that no one ever heard of. Of the comments that did address the article, they ran about 20:1 between "Dylan sucks" and "He's not my cup of tea, but I admit he's talented". I was *this close* to writing a 10-page point-by-point rebuttal. Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2015 12:53 AM (sdi6R) Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 12:53 AM (e+1S5) 693
Sierra Nevada Torpedo Extra IPA *clinks glass on monitor frame*
Posted by: cthulhu heh. Sierra Nevada is great BBQ brew. I always insist on introducing it to my overseas friends. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 12:53 AM (Zi7PZ) 694
680 halfrican!
We don't talk much, but I've always like you - hell yes we're doing shots. How are you? I'll give it two minutes (pixy time) for anyone else to join in. *already have one poured for the lurking pretty Sgt. Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 12:48 AM (FuAhx) Chi have 2 for me and 1 for our little setter girl,Darbie. We think she has cancer. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2015 12:53 AM (K4xGQ) 695
Personally, I think its probably because guys don't want to be laughed at, especially at a vulnerable time like that.
But women experience the same thing...it's not just a guy thing. Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2015 12:36 AM (hX3bN) No guys endure all kinds of trash talk during sports and other events without getting the butterflies. The answer is that until very recently in human history it was dangerous to approach an unknown woman with sexual intent. Because nearly all women were claimed by a man and under their protection be it a father, brothers, cousins, or a husband. And putting moves on a spoken-for woman was viewed as a deliberate attack on her male protector. Since a man can't know whether he's the true father of a child, the only feasible way to up the odds is to make it very dangerous for any other man attempting to interlope. Which means that today we're all the sons of men who were willing to shed blood to protect their genetic lineage AND the Lotharios who learned the hard way to be cautious and cunning at their seduction attempts. The butterflies in your stomach today are the residual warning mechanism from the past telling you that approaching this woman might involve some risk. Not from her but from the men around her. Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:53 AM (pAlYe) 696
I think it depends a lot on the setting too.
If you have to 'leave cover' and cross a large open space to approach someone...then you're going to feel even more vulnerable. And if the woman is with a group...then the danger is multiplied. Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2015 12:53 AM (hX3bN) 697
Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 12:48 AM (FuAhx)
Ha, that's cool as hell I appreciate it. Makes all the time I spend on this site worthwhile haha! I know I'm late replying - I'm playing Madden - but I took a shot! Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 12:54 AM (R5HRU) 698
It's late. My reading is a prevention of family trees looking like telephone poles. Amirite? I've been away has he departed?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2015 12:50 AM (K4xGQ) ------ I think you read it right. That may not be the entirety of the code (beware) but it is the section cited by an anti-Cuccinelli (sp?) publication so should be the most damning attack they could come up with. Posted by: RioBravo at January 30, 2015 12:54 AM (z27Ny) 699
I never had a problem talking to Wimmenz either. With enough talk I could usually end up in a situation like the S American Anus Bleaching picture. I wish I was 22 again
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 30, 2015 12:55 AM (fLKzW) 700
It's funny to read about guys being all nervous about approaching women - because we feel exactly the same way, if we're attracted to you. Well, maybe outstanding beauties don't, but I'm talking about ordinary women.
"OMG, why did I just say that? That sounded really stupid. Now he'll think I'm a ditz and he won't call." Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 30, 2015 12:55 AM (+XMAD) 701
Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2015 12:53 AM (sdi6R
I enjoy Dylan. Not as much as my mid kid or you. But a game changer for sure. Interesting article in aarp Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2015 12:56 AM (K4xGQ) 702
Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2015 12:53 AM (sdi6R)
Brickbats were my favorite parts of the magazine. My pops subbed to Reason at one point. I read reason when I was around 11-13 and thought the Brickbats were made up, the stories in it were so fucking crazy to my adolescent brain. Shows you how childish government is. Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 12:56 AM (R5HRU) 703
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I don't call it a troll because we disagree - hell, we don't even communicate. I truly believe there is an intent to disprupt. I call it that because he makes some sense, then rolls in with nonsensical B.S. that seems designed to elicit expected responses (successfully, I might add - as evidenced by this evening). When challenged, Change The Subject! (Cuccinelli? When was he last relevant? ?? ) I just choose too see it for what I believe it to be, and ignore it. Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 12:57 AM (FuAhx) 704
...Bush's intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq provided a basis for hoping such support might be forthcoming from the U.S...
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 30, 2015 12:52 AM (oKE6c) ----- It may also have set up Hungary II which would have been in line with the other successes if the Bush policy in the ME. Posted by: RioBravo at January 30, 2015 12:57 AM (z27Ny) 705
Truck: You are right man, it ain't that hard. Oh, to be young again.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 12:57 AM (ucDmr) 706
Rules for flappers:
"Don't swear: it is cheap and shows ill breeding" Hey, did Huckabee write those rules? Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 30, 2015 12:58 AM (+XMAD) 707
Donna! How are you?
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 12:59 AM (ucDmr) 708
True Dat. I like hunting. Talking to pretty wimmenz was easy. You would be surprised at how receptive they were. Beautiful wimmenz, in general, are not approached much.... other than by the stupid meathead douchebag demographic
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 30, 2015 01:00 AM (fLKzW) 709
"I'm a prick. I'm sorry but I intend to be a prick. I think this is an
important argument and it is more than "libertarianism is icky" it is what is the best way to safeguard our lives and liberties." No, you're not a prick, you're just a jackass who hasn't bothered to read the arguments people are making up and down the thread because you'd rather wade into it with a bullshit blinding wall of strawman way back up the thread. Don't pat yourself on the back with the title "prick". You don't deserve it. Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 30, 2015 01:01 AM (xSCb6) 710
708: true dat. The less you care the easier it is. Bizarre.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:01 AM (ucDmr) 711
BTW - all Morons need to watch "Chris Porter - Ugly and Angry" on Netflix.
I saw it out in Vegas on the last night I was there. Shit was hilarious and very Moron-ish humor. Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:02 AM (R5HRU) 712
Mike Hammer, if you are still here, I made some good progress on the TR6 today. Threw away the tattered and sadly under-sized positive battery cable, which had a "nifty" (patented, even, haha) tie point halfway along it where three power feed wires from the harness tied on to large spade connectors. Made up a terminal block from plastic with a /4" stud to tie the cables to. Ran a short cable from that to the battery, a slightly longer one from the stud to the starter solenoid, and extended the lesser wires and added ring terminals to likewise tie them to the stud. All connections crimped, soldered, and insulated with heat-shrink tube.
Took out the Lucas alternator, also with nifty push-on connectors, even for the main feed, which has to pass 40 amps. Found that two leads from the internal regulator to the rectifier bridge were both loose on their spades. Cut off the spade connecters, cleaned wire and terminal, and soldered those suckers on. For the big 40-amp lead, I crimped and soldered a short pigtail of #10 wire into a female spade connector, put a 1/4" ring connector on the other end, and soldered that, too. Then scraped the mating surfaces for the spade connector clean, and soldered that in place, too. Put a matching ring connector on the harness wire going to the alternator, and joined the two with a nut and bolt, and taped it up. I left push-ons for the "field" lead and the warning light lead, as they don't have to carry much current. But now there are exactly zero push-on connectors between the battery, alternator, and main harness wires. With this done, I pulled out the choke, turned the key, and it started right up. The longer it ran, the smoother it ran. Eventually it was idling quite nicely. And the voltmeter initially climbed up close to 19 volts, then settled back to about 15, so the alternator is putting out, and the regulator is regulating. Still no headlights, or turn signals. I am going to see about plates and insurance tomorrow. It needs an Italian tune-up. And the front carb stopped dripping gas. I am pleased, so far. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2015 01:03 AM (upitO) 713
610 Cuccineli...law to ban oral sex...ring any bells?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:23 AM (0LHZx) My recollection is that the law in question had to do with sexual predators and oral sex. And Cuccinelli didn't propose the law - it was already an existing one in Virginia. Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:30 AM (pAlYe) If you are going to criticize Cuccinelli, it's not for this. I am not and was not a big Cuccinelli fan, and I knew years earlier that he would never win as Governor in Virginia. Why? He was too visible on too many issues that weren't "state issues". I know the reasons for fighting Obamacare that he did, but to many Virginians that came across a partisan politics, and Virginians have never liked their AG to be partisan, something that the current AG is finding out. Cuccinelli's problem is that he is awful at campaigning. He thought he could run the same campaign he did in 2009, which was non existent. He ran very few ads in western Virginia where he underperformed, and he was absolutely shitty in fundraising. While he raised the same as McDonnell did in 09, McAuliffe raised twice as much as he did. I usually receive several dozen fundraising letters per election, and tons of calls for me to turn out, I received neither. It was truly an awful campaign. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 30, 2015 01:03 AM (+Fae7) 714
>>>The butterflies in your stomach today are the residual warning mechanism from the past telling you that approaching this woman might involve some risk.
This is true. But it hasn't translated to all aspects of modern life. Like these fucking morons blocking roads for some Cause. So they not realize that my 11 year old pos four cylinder outweighs them by 1300 pounds or so? Most sentient being don't pick fights with those odds. My beagle snapped at me. Once. Then he learned that "Daddy is way bigger stronger and meaner than me, so I guess I'm not the alpha in this pack". Maybe that's it. No one has been willing to be The First. Because being The First will probably come with an arrest, jail time, loss of job etc. Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 01:03 AM (e+1S5) 715
695...The butterflies in your stomach today are the residual warning mechanism from the past telling you that approaching this woman might involve some risk.
Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 12:53 AM (pAlYe) ---------- Ah. ...A primal thing, then. That's probably true. I still say that women experience much the same thing...but it's more of a 'turn and run' thing than fight-or-flight. Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2015 01:03 AM (hX3bN) 716
Mis Hum
What?!?! Awww - I think I may have a pic of Darbie. We'll pray, and I'm raising a glass to good health right now... Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 01:03 AM (FuAhx) 717
Talking on approaching beautiful women....
It also depends where you are meeting them. I'm 30, just in Vegas the past Thursday-Sunday. Pornstar convention was held, saw alot of them plus escorts and general hot chicks. I can tell you the majority were NOT going to give my crew and I the time of day. Just like language, time and place matters for meeting women. Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:06 AM (R5HRU) 718
Here's to the wine we love to drink and the food we love to eat. Here's to our wives and sweethearts and may they never meet. Here's champagne for our real friends and real pain for our sham friends. And when this journey finally ends may all of us find peace. Here's to the women that I've loved and all the ones I've kissed. As for regrets I just have one, that's all the ones I've missed. Ah women's faults are many, we men have only two: Every single thing we say and everything we do. I wish you health, I wish you wealth, and happiness galore. I wish you heaven when you die, what could I wish you more? May your joys be as deep as the ocean, your troubles as light as its foam. And may you find sweet peace of mind where ever you may roam. Posted by: Mike Cross at January 30, 2015 01:06 AM (l1zOH) 719
Did I miss Moo Moo shitting all over another thread? I have always disliked him. His Ivy league university smugness is off putting.
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 30, 2015 01:06 AM (fLKzW) 720
708: true dat. The less you care the easier it is. Bizarre.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:01 AM (ucDmr) ****** Yep. Desperation and lack of confidence must have an odor or a look that is discernible by the fairer sex. I've been in Sales my whole life, so no big deal. Now that I really don't care, They are everywhere. Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 01:06 AM (eLjug) 721
717: got to separate from the herd man. Works every time. Women are really just like us.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:08 AM (ucDmr) 722
So approaching a women in the open means her father has you covered with a 30-06 or if she's hot a 444 Marlin.
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 01:08 AM (ztOda) 723
This is true. But it hasn't translated to all aspects of modern life. Like these fucking morons blocking roads for some Cause. So they not realize that my 11 year old pos four cylinder outweighs them by 1300 pounds or so?
Well cars are a very new thing for humans. Give it another 400 generations of counter-selection and guys will start getting nervous when they start tractor-beaming concrete barrels onto the magnetic loopways. Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 01:09 AM (pAlYe) 724
And the front carb stopped dripping gas. I am pleased, so far.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ------------------ Sounds like a rewarding day. It's nice when real progress is made. Are the carbs SU's? Posted by: Mike Cross at January 30, 2015 01:10 AM (l1zOH) 725
/ sheds folk singer sock
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 01:10 AM (l1zOH) 726
714...But it hasn't translated to all aspects of modern life. Like these fucking morons blocking roads for some Cause. So they not realize that my 11 year old pos four cylinder outweighs them by 1300 pounds or so?
Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 01:03 AM (e+1S5) ----------- Yeah, but DC...these assholes know that they've got a President and an Attorney General who will reign down holy hell on anyone who dares to give them a little 'bump'. So they know they are the ones who have the upper hand. Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2015 01:11 AM (hX3bN) 727
717: if you want to talk to a woman, don't have a crew dude. Man up she don't need a crew to talk to anybody.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:11 AM (ucDmr) 728
Hey I know I asked this and got a decent response but I don't remember how it went down exactly but......am I the only one that listens to hiphop on this blog?
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:12 AM (R5HRU) 729
719 Did I miss Moo Moo shitting all over another thread? I have always disliked him. His Ivy league university smugness is off putting.
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 30, 2015 01:06 AM (fLKzW)P He dropped out after Maet called him out.bGutless pike wouldn't even say goodnight I vote ban hammer Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2015 01:12 AM (K4xGQ) Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 30, 2015 01:12 AM (OsWis) 731
I like Supertramp. Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 30, 2015 01:12 AM (K8c3j) 732
>>>Desperation and lack of confidence must have an odor or a look that is discernible by the fairer sex.
Hell yes. Back in college I went through a bad slump. Like didn't get laid in 18 months bad. It was like girls could smell it. Then, one day, I just stopped giving a fuck. I went out with no intention of getting laid. Got too drunk, flipped tables, started a fight just because I felt like it. I acted like a total asshole that current me would choke slam in a hot second. But you know what? It worked. Because I wasn't interested in getting laid, I got laid. Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 01:12 AM (e+1S5) 733
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:11 AM (ucDmr)
I wouldn't talk to a woman with a group of dudes behind me. That's creepy and rapey. My point is, that type of girl has no interest in anybody in my group unless we have dough to spend and are flaunting it. Time and place. Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:13 AM (R5HRU) 734
590 Early meeting tomorrow. Gotta get some sleep. Night all. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 30, 2015 12:24 AM (0LHZx He's full of shit and ran away like the little bitch that he is, but he did say goodbye MisHum. Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2015 01:13 AM (zt+N6) 735
I usually receive several dozen fundraising letters per election, and tons of calls for me to turn out, I received neither.
It was truly an awful campaign. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, Certain Republicans didn't cough up their lists and the Governors' people were all in hiding. I got Cuch stuff from lists my wife was on; but not from RNC lists that I am one. It was glaring. The loss of the Bob's machine and turnout hurt, in votes and in cash. I heard he said no to several ads linking Terry to Clinton corruption because he didn't want to draw attention to Richmond. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 01:14 AM (ztOda) 736
Did I miss Moo Moo shitting all over another thread? I have always disliked him. His Ivy league university smugness is off putting.
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 30, 2015 01:06 AM (fLKzW) ****** This thread right here. If only people here would realize he is just a Contrarian prick who throws ever increasing vitriolic bombs until he gets a response, and,ignore him, he would not clutter up so many threads. Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 01:14 AM (z2f1n) 737
I love Hip Hop. Used to love painting and hiding the eggs. I am still trying to figure out how the Bunny and Baby Jesus are related
Posted by: JOEY BIDEN at January 30, 2015 01:14 AM (fLKzW) 738
So they know they are the ones who have the upper hand.
Posted by: wheatie ----------------- So you saw the Code Pink trash interrupting the Senate hearing today... Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 01:14 AM (l1zOH) 739
Well cars are a very new thing for humans. Give it another 400 generations of counter-selection and guys will start getting nervous when they start tractor-beaming concrete barrels onto the magnetic loopways."
I'll have to disagree here. The issue is one of being hindered by laws, lawfare, and overzealous DA's. That's why someone with a wife and kid in a car, at an intersection, will sit in terror while a flash mob beats on their car, rather than take off and perhaps hurt one of the mob. If that action weren't surely punished, for whatever PC reason, standing in front of traffic and menacing commuters would be a non-starter idea. Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 30, 2015 01:14 AM (XmOA9) Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:15 AM (R5HRU) 741
Will that before or after we have "shields" or as they put it in the olden days "force fields"? Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 30, 2015 01:15 AM (K8c3j) 742
716 Mis Hum
What?!?! Awww - I think I may have a pic of Darbie. We'll pray, and I'm raising a glass to good health right now... Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 01:03 AM (FuAhx) Thanks Chi.. It is appreciated Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2015 01:15 AM (K4xGQ) 743
Sounds like a rewarding day. It's nice when real progress is made. Are the carbs SU's?
Posted by: Mike Cross at January 30, 2015 01:10 AM (l1zOH) No the carbs are Strombergs. But two carb kits came with the car, and I will overhaul the carbs eventually. And judging by the documents I found in the glove compartment, this car was originally registered in North Carolina. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2015 01:15 AM (upitO) 744
not much to tell. I'll listen to rock, R&B, jazz, and Hawaiian...depends on my mood.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 30, 2015 01:16 AM (OsWis) 745
Posted by: JOEY BIDEN at January 30, 2015 01:14 AM (fLKzW)
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand........mic drop. Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:16 AM (R5HRU) 746
728: I listen to hip hop. Don't mean shit if a chick wants to talk. Are you sincere or just a hoser? Chicks have really good noses.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:16 AM (ucDmr) 747
Same principle as tractor beams, I suppose.. Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 30, 2015 01:16 AM (K8c3j) 748
I am fascinated by rap.
Posted by: John "Puff Facey" Kerry at January 30, 2015 01:17 AM (tdmtT) 749
744- I got you.
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:17 AM (R5HRU) 750
I've been fortunate in being able to talk to women, but a lot of that comes from an odd place.
My birthday's in November, right where the school admission cutoff is....so I started out being nearly the youngest kid in my grade. Then I skipped second grade -- so I was an average of 1.5 years younger than my classmates. Then, girls mature faster than boys..... So I never had to "compete" for girls until, essentially, college. That let me relate to them in a far more relaxed way over the years -- and, thus, I was more relaxed when things finally did end up "interesting". Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 01:17 AM (T1005) 751
If that action weren't surely punished, for whatever PC reason, standing in front of traffic and menacing commuters would be a non-starter idea.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 30, 2015 01:14 AM (XmOA9) I was talking about an inherited biological aversion - not an intellectual fear of punishment aversion. But of course the latter is a very good place to start. And a few 'whoopsies' where freeway protesters get accidentally smushed will help move the process along... Posted by: Maetenloch at January 30, 2015 01:18 AM (pAlYe) 752
Right now, I'm listening to Deborah Cox.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 30, 2015 01:18 AM (OsWis) 753
626 kbdabear has surely posted some boobs by now?
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 30, 2015 12:34 AM (Pauop) I did. Shirley might be the name of one of the models Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2015 01:18 AM (GrXXa) Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:18 AM (R5HRU) Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:19 AM (R5HRU) 756
No the carbs are Strombergs. But two carb kits came with the car, and I will overhaul the carbs eventually. And judging by the documents I found in the glove compartment, this car was originally registered in North Carolina.
Posted by: Alberta --------------------------- Well..., it wasn't mine. In spite of some decades of interest, I've never owned a Brit car. I always figured it was likely to be a hobby rather than something I could count on as a daily driver. * scratches head * The TR6 is a flathead straight 6, no? What are the differences TR250, TR6? Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 01:20 AM (l1zOH) 757
I used to be a Libertarian. Big L.
The Libertarian party has a bunch of factions in it: Ideologically pure Big Ls, who are so into ZAP that they think voting is initiation of force. They have problems with the concept that a lot of folks don't think, and can't be trusted to follow ZAP, even if it is in their best self interest to do so ... they don't understand that people cross the southern border to get on welfare and steal from us, or that some country's leaders just need to be crushed before they learn to behave. Basically near aspie Utopians. Unable to comprehend that most people decide based on their gut, instead of thinking. Conspiracy fruitcakes, who blame the zionist-banker conspiracy on all of the world's ills, and have learned that if they give lip service to the ZAP cant, they can spew their bilge, and not get kicked out. They are the backbone of the Israel=evil contingent, and plug their ears and shout "la la la la la" when someone points out that Jewish settlers freaking purchased the land they settled on. Hippies, who would vote for Joseph Stalin if he legalized weed. A-holes who want a free ride, and have discovered that they can bilk Libertarians out of money and effort if they learn the cant. And finally, Goldwater paleocons, who are still trying to get people elected to office as Libertarians. I was part of that last group. I got sick and tired of the crap from the rest, and finally joined the Republican Party. Any small L libertarian with half a brain needs to just walk away, and become a Republican. We can sell liberty to Republicans, and a lot of them are willing to do what it takes to implement it. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 01:20 AM (6ROe1) 758
When someone is being an ass in the road, pretend your texting and don't see them -- they'll move.
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 01:20 AM (ztOda) 759
Halfrican - i'll confess to going old school stuff, but nothing new. Not exposed to it, I guess - what I DO know, I see / hear nothing of interest.
I like 30 years ago shit... it's one of my go-to stations I created on Milk Radio while I'm working. Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 01:20 AM (FuAhx) 760
>>>am I the only one that listens to hiphop on this blog?
Nope. But anything after 2002 or so and I'm lost. Wait, we did have this conversation before. Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 01:20 AM (e+1S5) 761
Good night Moroms. Be safe, be well.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2015 01:21 AM (K4xGQ) 762
I hear you Maet, but I mean that because of the punishment aversion by the law abiding, the inherited biological aversion to being smooshed will never take hold.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 30, 2015 01:21 AM (XmOA9) 763
738...So you saw the Code Pink trash interrupting the Senate hearing today...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 01:14 AM (l1zOH) ---------- Yep. Disgusting pucker-faced mewling cuntlings. Barky has done far more things that could be declared 'war crimes'...but they go after old Kissinger? Grrrr. Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2015 01:21 AM (hX3bN) 764
I listen to mostly old school. There's not much I want to listen to that is current.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 30, 2015 01:22 AM (OsWis) 765
Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 01:20 AM (e+1S5)
Couldn't agree more with the time frame. Again if we did I apologize. I consider us hiphop repubs/cons/libertarians purple unicorns. Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:22 AM (R5HRU) 766
I've never owned a Brit car. I always figured it was likely to be a
hobby rather than something I could count on as a daily driver. Maybe in Az, where it doesnt rain. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 01:23 AM (ztOda) 767
G'night MH. Stay warm up there.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 01:23 AM (l1zOH) 768
758 When someone is being an ass in the road, pretend your texting and don't see them -- they'll move.
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 01:20 AM (ztOda) -------------------- Especially if you're driving a '92 diesel work truck that looks like it just won "Death Race 2000" - or so I've heard... Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 01:24 AM (FuAhx) 769
I saw it out in Vegas on the last night I was there. Shit was hilarious and very Moron-ish humor.
Posted by: thathalfrican cool. I saw it in my feed but didn't cue it yet. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 01:25 AM (eQI/a) 770
Barky has done far more things that could be declared 'war crimes'...but they go after old Kissinger?
Grrrr. Posted by: wheatie ------------------- None of that trash were even alive, long after Henry was out of government. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 01:25 AM (l1zOH) 771
W00T! I just bought a ticket to see Al Stewart at a local winery on March 21.
The "W00t!" is because I decided to spring for the limited VIP package which includes a wine tasting before the show, and of course VIP seating. The wine tasting is hosted by Al, who is himself a wine connoisseur. I don't know much about wine. Maybe he can put me some effin' knowledge. I've never been to a wine tasting before. A regular ticket was $40 and the VIP ticket was $110. I figured life is short, so why not? Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2015 01:25 AM (sdi6R) 772
Part of the reason for going into both Afghanistan
and Iraq was that we could put the squeeze on Iran, and if they started trying to get frisky with their nuclear plants, we had bases to take it out. Barky gave all that up real fast like. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 30, 2015 12:46 AM (+Fae7) ***************** This. We have been at war with Iran since 1979 (they actually declared war against us in 1980 and we are still in a state of war, so far as they're concerned), although certain of our Presidents have tried to ignore it and hope they go away. Iraq and Afghanistan were both opportunities for a strategic encirclement and containment. Iraq turned out to have an unexpected strategic benefit: it was a magnet for killing Islamists. Rather than chasing them all over the world, they came to Iraq to be killed by us. And were they ever. Not to go crazy about the War of Northern Aggression, but at Gettysburg, Longstreet argued that defense was the stronger form of warfare, and the Army of Northern Virginia should just dig in and let the Yankees attack because they had to -- the Union could not long tolerate Lee's army being on its soil. Lee, tragically, believed in the big Napoleonic blow that would scatter the Army of the Potomac in tatters, hence Pickett's Charge and the ultimate loss of the war. Iraq served the same basic purpose -- we were the Army of Northern Virginia in Longstreet's vision, dug in on Seminary Ridge and across the Taneytown Road, slaughtering the Yankees in rows -- except here we were "dug in" in Anbar and Nineveh and Mosul. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 30, 2015 01:26 AM (5f5bM) Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:26 AM (R5HRU) 774
754: normal chicks are like us. They are not China Dolls. They want what you want. Just don't be over the top Theyhate that. It's not rocket surgery. Just be yourself. Why you would you want to live up to something you are not?
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:26 AM (ucDmr) 775
"Death Race 2000" - or so I've heard...
Posted by: shredded ------------------------ Now you have reminded me of Simone Griffith, dammit. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 01:27 AM (l1zOH) 776
774 - I've always thought that too.
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:28 AM (R5HRU) Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 01:28 AM (l1zOH) 778
776: exactly. Not all women are feminists. Some of my best friends are women. They know I'm an asshole. It works. Real women ain't complicated. They rock.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:31 AM (ucDmr) 779
The TR6 is a flathead straight 6, no? What are the differences TR250, TR6?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 01:20 AM (l1zOH) No, it's an OHV straight six, 2.5 liters, 153 cubic inches. Manifolds on the passenger side, distributor and spark plugs on the driver's side. Actually looks like a slimmer and trimmer version of a Studebaker or Rambler OHV six. I don't know where the TR250 fits into the family tree. They have a pretty similar body design. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2015 01:32 AM (upitO) 780
>>>I consider us hiphop repubs/cons/libertarians purple unicorns.
Yeah. My Sirius programmed stations are two rock, 1 hip hop, 1 reggae, 1 jam band and 1....wait for it...Jimmy Buffet. I say it proudly. I love Jimmy Buffet. *hoists riot shield against incoming tomatoes* Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 01:32 AM (e+1S5) 781
You philosophers musing about women amuse me -
Maybe I should read those posts, but i'll go out on a limb and say perhaps some of you are trying too hard? Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 01:33 AM (FuAhx) 782
780: we will ignore that.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:33 AM (ucDmr) 783
I say it proudly. I love Jimmy Buffet. *hoists riot shield against incoming tomatoes*
Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 01:32 AM (e+1S5) I believe the Jimmy Buffet hate was 2 or three nights ago. Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2015 01:33 AM (zt+N6) Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 30, 2015 01:34 AM (OsWis) Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:34 AM (R5HRU) 786
I say it proudly. I love Jimmy Buffet
-------------------- Heathen! I take back the shot I offered! Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 01:35 AM (FuAhx) 787
754: normal chicks are like us. They are not China Dolls. They want what you want. Just don't be over the top Theyhate that. It's not rocket surgery. Just be yourself. Why you would you want to live up to something you are not?
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:26 AM (ucDmr) ******* This is true. Hottest woman I know is a former girlfriend and long time friend. She is now 50 and I guarantee she would add starch to the shorts of any guy 30 and up. Her biggest bitch about guys? They were too wimpy to even make the effort to try and talk to her. Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 01:35 AM (eLjug) Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:35 AM (R5HRU) 789
Maybe in Az, where it doesnt rain.
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 01:23 AM (ztOda) Heh. It rained lightly much of the afternoon and evening here in Apache Junction, and more rain is in the forecast. The air sure does smell nice and fresh after a rain. You can really smell the desert flora. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2015 01:36 AM (upitO) 790
Tonight's ONT brought to you by "Mistakes Were Made."
G'nite all. Tip your waitresses. Wait your tiptresses. Posted by: filbert at January 30, 2015 01:36 AM (h6Mpm) 791
Iraq served the same basic purpose -- we were the Army of Northern Virginia in Longstreet's vision, dug in on Seminary Ridge and across the Taneytown Road, slaughtering the Yankees in rows -- except here we were "dug in" in Anbar and Nineveh and Mosul.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 30, 2015 01:26 AM (5f5bM) An odd stretch for an historical analogy. We were "the Army of Northern Virginia in Longstreet's vision", instead of just being "the Army of the Potomac the way the battle actually happened"? Posted by: CQD at January 30, 2015 01:36 AM (2dzsA) 792
781, I'm glad I'm married now, so we can fight over meaningless things, and I don't have to worry about talking to women.
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 01:37 AM (ztOda) 793
785 : how's Minnesota treating you?
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:37 AM (ucDmr) 794
Part of the reason for going into both Afghanistan
and Iraq was that we could put the squeeze on Iran, and if they started trying to get frisky with their nuclear plants, we had bases to take it out. Barky gave all that up real fast like. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper ***************** This. We have been at war with Iran since 1979 (they actually declared war against us in 1980 and we are still in a state of war, so far as they're concerned), although certain of our Presidents have tried to ignore it and hope they go away. Posted by: Caesar North It makes sense strategically, but only Stratego-ically. The thing that I believe W fucked up was thinking he could minimize a secondary war in Iraq and then hat-trick the Iran war. America is war-averse (good thing), but they aren't interested in long-term pacification of a 3-world country 5000 miles away (moderately ambiguous thing? ) W. misunderstood the US public in the sense that he thought we'd be willing to fight for ambiguous occupations because of hmm-phmm. He thought wrong. And it was a bad gamble. We aren't the country that can stand a drawn out, unpronounced occupation or something that would have worked, a NCO Colonial Army*. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 01:38 AM (eQI/a) Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 30, 2015 01:38 AM (UVfht) 796
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You philosophers musing about women amuse me - Maybe I should read those posts, but i'll go out on a limb and say perhaps some of you are trying too hard? Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 01:33 AM (FuAhx) One of the big timewasters at the University of Casual Sun-Bathing when I was there was backgammon. And the joke ran -- Freshmen don't know how to play backgammon; Sophomores have to borrow a board to play the girls; Juniors have their own board and invite women over to play; and Seniors just ask, "wanna screw?" Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 01:38 AM (T1005) 797
Don't see why everyone's so afraid of women? They can't hurt anyone when they're unconscious.
Posted by: Pill Cosby at January 30, 2015 01:39 AM (tdmtT) 798
@779 - the TR250 was the US version of the TR5 which was a TR4A with the 2.5L engine.
Posted by: JEM at January 30, 2015 01:39 AM (o+SC1) 799
CQD -- yeah, that works too tactically, but strategically the point was: 1. We invade; 2. We dig in; 3. They have to attack us; 4. We kill a bunch of them. That fits Longstreet, not Meade, who would just be #2 and #4.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 30, 2015 01:40 AM (5f5bM) 800
>>>I believe the Jimmy Buffet hate was 2 or three nights ago.
I saw that after. I dig his music, but more, I dig the fact that he had the guts to do what not many people can. Totally sell out (in the original sense of the term) and just head for the islands and see what happens. If I hadn't met Cougar when I did, I'd probably be working at a marina in the Caribbean or something. I was that close. Besides, Buffet is much more than Margaritaville. Dude has been singing and writing for like 45 years. Not my fault it's the silly campy stuff that made him a billionaire. Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 01:42 AM (e+1S5) 801
I think most guys just don't understand that a lot of women prefer guys who are brave enough to talk to them, and are not afraid of getting shot down.
They act like doormats, and don't understand why they are permanently friend-zoned, and then walked on. The very concept of saying "hi" to a girl, and not getting butt-hurt or crushed if she just waves you off, laughs, or puts her nose in her smartphone, seems to be incomprehensible to them. I think this guy in China is doing these kids a good turn, teaching them to actually talk to girls, and simply move on and not get all butt-hurty if they are rejected. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 01:42 AM (6ROe1) 802
. I don't know where the TR250 fits into the family tree.
----------------- Geeze..., 25 years ago I knew this stuff chapter and verse. I peaked at Wiki ( http://tinyurl.com/qd65gpr ) Looks like TR250/TR6 engines were the same. What surprises me is how they took it on the nose power-wise to meet U.S. smog limits. 150h.p. for Brit version vs. 104 h.p. for the U.S. version. That's a hell of a difference. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 01:42 AM (l1zOH) 803
"I don't know where the TR250 fits into the family tree. They have a pretty similar body design.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2015 01:32 AM (upitO)" The TR 250 was just the TR-5, slightly re-engineered for the American market. An up-gunned version of the TR-4 (a car I once owned, that I still regret selling), and a bit more classic in appearance than the admirable but slightly less perfect TR-6. Posted by: CQD at January 30, 2015 01:42 AM (2dzsA) 804
Blanco Basura at January 30, 2015 01:38 AM (UVfht)
I don't think it's rain. I think "they" are really pissing on my leg ... Posted by: Adriane ... at January 30, 2015 01:42 AM (P+IZm) 805
W. misunderstood the US public in the sense that he thought we'd be
willing to fight for ambiguous occupations because of hmm-phmm. By W, you mean all of Washington. There were very few voices saying, eff them all. Burn Kharj Is. and lets go home by Thunderrunning thru Damascus and Hezbollah with a roll-on operation in Tyre. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 01:42 AM (ztOda) 806
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:37 AM (ucDmr)
Not bad I guess. Still looking for work as we're shutting down our family business. Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:43 AM (R5HRU) 807
We aren't the country that can stand a drawn out,
unpronounced occupation or something that would have worked, a NCO Colonial Army*. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 01:38 AM (eQI/a) ******************* 1. Someone here, I believe it was the Ewok, pointed out that no war can last past the next election cycle because the Democrats will reflexively root for America's defeat. 2. We have fought long, low-intensity wars in our history. The frontier comes to mind. 3. I don't think the point was necessarily to invade Iran as Step 3. I think it was to be on Iran's borders, capable of applying pressure and giving them the feeling of being surrounded. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 30, 2015 01:44 AM (5f5bM) 808
787: Real women are not complicated. They are fun and just like us. I feel for women who bought into that feminist shit. Lot of people missing out. Maybe that's good. I like women have a lot of fun with them, more fun than guys. Most of the time it works.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:44 AM (ucDmr) Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2015 01:46 AM (sdi6R) 810
Weft-cut loop:
Exactly. If we were going to go to war, we should simply crushed the countries involved, leave them all in flaming ruins, and then go home. An object lesson in what happens when you screw with the US. Trying to turn a tribal cesspool into a colony is always going to be a disaster for Americans. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 01:46 AM (6ROe1) Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 01:47 AM (ztOda) 812
There are two types of men today. Men who can recite the intro to Musta Got Lost, and those who cannot. Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 30, 2015 01:47 AM (K8c3j) 813
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787: Real women are not complicated. They are fun and just like us. I feel for women who bought into that feminist shit. Lot of people missing out. Maybe that's good. I like women have a lot of fun with them, more fun than guys. Most of the time it works. Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:44 AM (ucDmr) Real women are complicated, but not that complicated. They are tremendously fun -- much more fun than guys -- but not like us or I'd be out boinking some dude. And they're endlessly fascinating, even with their clothes on. Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 01:48 AM (T1005) 814
By W, you mean all of Washington. There were very few voices saying, eff them all. Burn Kharj Is. and lets go home by Thunderrunning thru Damascus and Hezbollah with a roll-on operation in Tyre.
Posted by: Jean No, not really. Bush had the only order that mattered. Bush could have snuffed the initiative early on, and do the easiest thing; "My fellow Americans, let's help our poor Afghan brothers and sisters by 'metering' the Taliban and it's supporters (*coughPakistancough* ). " Easier if not the easiest course of action. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 01:49 AM (eQI/a) 815
I peaked at Wiki ( http://tinyurl.com/qd65gpr )
Looks like TR250/TR6 engines were the same. What surprises me is how they took it on the nose power-wise to meet U.S. smog limits. 150h.p. for Brit version vs. 104 h.p. for the U.S. version. That's a hell of a difference. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 01:42 AM (l1zOH) Yeah this engine has an air pump, and exhaust gas recirculation valve, and evaporative emissions canister. And the vacuum canister on the distributor retards the spark, not advances it. I don't know if I have to have this car smog-checked, so I'm loath to remove the pump or EGR until I know I can get away with it. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2015 01:50 AM (upitO) 816
There are two types of men today.
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at January 30, 2015 01:47 AM (K8c3j) There are 10 types of men today: Those who know binary, and those who can get laid... Posted by: 010010000110000101110100 at January 30, 2015 01:51 AM (0Ew3K) 817
Caesar North of the Rubicon:
That would be one of Machiavellian options for permanently conquering a state who's culture is different from yours ... start a Colony, and then start subjugating the natives over the long term. Nasty stuff, but it working in the Western US. Was plenty hard on the Native Americans, though. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 01:51 AM (6ROe1) 818
813: Women ain't that difficult. Like I said, not rocket surgery. Enjoy the ride. Life's too short all.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 30, 2015 01:53 AM (ucDmr) 819
Jean, ISR is a tricky beast. We're mostly teaching E-5s and below, so we try to avoid going too deep into ISR. The goal is more for them to understand how it fits into the bigger picture. IPB -> PIRs/SIRs -> ISR and then how their units can support higher's PIRs and answer their own commander's PIRs.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 30, 2015 01:53 AM (10ydV) 820
788
Dude, as much as I like you, I can't help you. I really think we live in different worlds - I'm single, poor by Horde standards. A contractor. As in, at almost 48, I work with my hands for a living. I crawl through attics and under houses. My largest monthly expense is "tools" (yeah, mortgage is paid off). I'm sweating the electric bill that is due tomorrow - I work seven days per week if the work is there... That said, i used to go to my local bar 4/5 days a week. I would sit at the corner, order a drink and my dinner, then try to sit quietly while I did the crossword puzzle. I looked & smelled like rotten sawdust, grease, diesel & yesterday's asscrack. I had a "reputation" for some reason. I minded my own business, totally disinterested in "the scene." It never failed - I would have numbers dropped in front of me a few times a week, or if I was in the mood, a companion for a night, weekend or a whatever... I'm not trying to brag - you asked. Stop trying so hard guys. At least, if you're trying to find a lady, PRETEND you're not - be confident with who you are before you go looking for someone maybe Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 01:53 AM (FuAhx) 821
Exactly. If we were going to go to war, we should simply crushed the
countries involved, leave them all in flaming ruins, and then go home. Except we've never done that. We crush them, but stay. Repeated visits to Central America, various Spanish islands, Germany, Japan, Korea ... fixed them up and stayed. Maybe Jefferson and Barbary Pirates? Tried it in Vietnam. Never finished with Canada. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 01:53 AM (ztOda) 822
Hey, W's actions got me to hand over my weapons stockpiles.
Well, that and the hope of having Condi visiting in her dominatrix, stompy boots and handling my "weapon". Posted by: zombie Qaddafi at January 30, 2015 01:54 AM (tdmtT) 823
Hell yes. Back in college I went through a bad slump. Like didn't get laid in 18 months bad. It was like girls could smell it.
Then, one day, I just stopped giving a fuck. I went out with no intention of getting laid. Got too drunk, flipped tables, started a fight just because I felt like it. I acted like a total asshole that current me would choke slam in a hot second. But you know what? It worked. Because I wasn't interested in getting laid, I got laid. Posted by: DC in River City at January 30, 2015 01:12 AM (e+1S5) Same thing with me, but it was after I graduated. Worked hard at it too. I seemed to always run into and be interested in ones that had long term boyfriends, but the second I got accepted a job in another city? Bam, that slump was over and I was like Charlie F'N Hustle at the plate. At that point I didn't give a shit and just started having a really good time with my friends, and we just happened to get a fresh batch of summer interns in that I actually scored with that year. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 30, 2015 01:54 AM (+Fae7) 824
3. I don't think the point was necessarily to invade Iran as Step 3. I think it was to be on Iran's borders, capable of applying pressure and giving them the feeling of being surrounded.
Posted by: Caesar North Eminently true, but it would have required an electorate willing to allow an honestly deployed and maintained occupying force, aka my NCO Colonial Army*. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 01:55 AM (eQI/a) Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 01:56 AM (R5HRU) 826
I recall in 1970 watching Bob Tullius working a Team 44 tr250 or TR6 through the esses at VIR.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 01:56 AM (l1zOH) 827
I've always been shy. I actually grew out of it a little by the end of college, but my problem still is that I'm not great at making small talk.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 30, 2015 01:57 AM (10ydV) 828
Easier if not the easiest course of action.
Tough call when your logistics run thru that country. Now if you want to screw Pakistan by supporting a quick Baluchistan independence movement and level the ISI HQ; I might get on board. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 01:57 AM (ztOda) 829
ColoAlex, it's tough. Because in the video games the radar always works.
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 01:59 AM (ztOda) 830
That would be one of Machiavellian options for
permanently conquering a state who's culture is different from yours ... start a Colony, and then start subjugating the natives over the long term. Nasty stuff, but it working in the Western US. Was plenty hard on the Native Americans, though. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 01:51 AM (6ROe1) In fact, a new Colonialism is the only humane way to deal with a resurgent mohammedan world. Invade, conquer, and run muslim countries as chattel properties of the Colonial powers. Deligitimize islam to the greatest extent possible, and encourage missionaries from other religions, especially Christianity to proselytize and convert the muslims. Create a social environment such that converting is seen by the muzz in the street as a way to a better life, instead of a way to lose one's head. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2015 01:59 AM (upitO) 831
One thing that helped me with women was finding a few hobbies that would interest women as well. The biggest being social dancing. It gave me a common point of reference with women (since we were both obviously interested in it) and allowed me to interact without having to worry about a cold approach.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 30, 2015 02:00 AM (10ydV) 832
Jean:
The Germans were crushed. Crushed, and the members of the party responsible hunted down and killed. Cities left in flaming ruins. By the time we were done, the Germans were simply happy we had stopped bombing them. Vietnam and Iraq are what happens when we let the kindly Madisonians run wars, instead of letting the Jacksonians rampage away. If a Jacksonian president were running the wars in Iraq or Vietnam, cities would have been nuked. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 02:01 AM (6ROe1) 833
Okay. Waaay late. Cars and women..., how good does it get? Well.., there IS that Middle East thing. I expect it will be there tomorrow.
Night all. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2015 02:02 AM (l1zOH) 834
Jean,
It's even more basic than that. We're dealing with the company level, so usually they're relying on the Mk. I eyeball, plus maybe a Raven and/or an IR camera on a tank/IFV. I try to emphasize that they need to realize what they can collect organically vs. what they really do need support from higher for, as well as understand the ints and the basic capabilities of higher-level assets so that they don't waste an opportunity when they get the "hey you, we've got a Pred over your area for the next twenty minutes. What should they look at?" Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 30, 2015 02:03 AM (10ydV) 835
I, myself, cannot recite the intro. Other than ooba gooba with the big green teeth and Raputa! Raputa the beauta! Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 30, 2015 02:04 AM (K8c3j) 836
Night all.
Here is "Slave to Freedom" by the Tygers of Pan Tang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bXHr1yxvVQ Posted by: The Political Hat at January 30, 2015 02:05 AM (0Ew3K) 837
Nasty stuff, but it working in the Western US. Was plenty hard on the Native Americans, though.
Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 01:51 AM (6ROe1) ******************** I think Alberta's making the same point. We had to do it to Germany and Japan. We may have succeeded too well - time will tell if either will ever find its gonads again when needed. And this isn't necessarily the best outcome, but the least bad outcome is that for the next 100 years we (and hopefully some allies) are going to have to eliminate the concept of violent jihad in the Mohammedan world, for our own protection and the protection of our civilization and way of life. Through force and through the power of culture. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 30, 2015 02:05 AM (5f5bM) 838
Tough call when your logistics run thru that country. Now if you want to screw Pakistan by supporting a quick Baluchistan independence movement and level the ISI HQ; I might get on board.
Posted by: Jean Here's a screw-ball idea; cut off all funding. All of it. From the N,S,W, E. Including oil-producing, terror-funding, janus-faced assholes. Just a thought. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 02:05 AM (eQI/a) 839
I am out for the night, too. God night, all.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2015 02:05 AM (upitO) 840
807 We aren't the country that can stand a drawn out,
unpronounced occupation or something that would have worked, a NCO Colonial Army*. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 01:38 AM (eQI/a) ******************* 1. Someone here, I believe it was the Ewok, pointed out that no war can last past the next election cycle because the Democrats will reflexively root for America's defeat. 2. We have fought long, low-intensity wars in our history. The frontier comes to mind. 3. I don't think the point was necessarily to invade Iran as Step 3. I think it was to be on Iran's borders, capable of applying pressure and giving them the feeling of being surrounded. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 30, 2015 01:44 AM (5f5bM) It wasn't about occupation, it was about bases. If the bases were built in the middle of nowhere, then we wouldn't have to worry about the locals, but they would know we are close by if we want to reach out and touch them. With bases in Iraq/Afghan, we could launch almost any kind of attack on Iran and kept Syria behaving. Plus, we would be close by to protect the Kurds. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 30, 2015 02:05 AM (+Fae7) 841
I've always been shy. I actually grew out of it a little by the end of college, but my problem still is that I'm not great at making small talk.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 30, 2015 01:57 AM (10ydV) ******* Remember these words. But, a caveat. Only say them if you mean them and are willing to follow through. "Hi, I'm Alex. I find you to be very interesting, and I'd like to spend some time with you to talk and check out whether we are into some of the same things." This is only an intro. If you are sincere in using those words for that woman, usually pretty effective. Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 02:06 AM (5kNXS) 842
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If a Jacksonian president were running the wars in Iraq or Vietnam, cities would have been nuked. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 02:01 AM (6ROe1) Starting with Mecca and Medina on 9/12/01, if I had my way. Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2015 02:06 AM (sdi6R) 843
Starting with Mecca and Medina on 9/12/01, if I had my way.
Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2015 02:06 AM (sdi6R) ^^this. It may come to it at some point. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 30, 2015 02:08 AM (5f5bM) 844
"Plus, we would be close by to protect the Kurds."
There was a big mistake. We should have treated the Kurds the way the British Empire treated the Ghurkas. Build a big fucking base there, and recruit Kurds as enforcers. And not be afraid to level cities when the Moslems get stupid again. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 02:09 AM (6ROe1) 845
Technically, the Kurds are Muslims too. They're just not Arabs.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 30, 2015 02:10 AM (5f5bM) 846
Item cited in roughly 3/4 of my successful sexual encounters: "you make me laugh". Most of the time, she's referring to some point before we unzip -- thankfully.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 02:10 AM (T1005) 847
In fact, a new Colonialism is the only humane way to deal with a resurgent mohammedan world. Invade, conquer, and run muslim countries as chattel properties of the Colonial powers. Deligitimize islam to the greatest extent possible, and encourage missionaries from other religions, especially Christianity to proselytize and convert the muslims. Create a social environment such that converting is seen by the muzz in the street as a way to a better life, instead of a way to lose one's head.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2015 01:59 AM (upitO) Give each muzz that converts some of the money from the oil sales. When other muzzs start seeing the new Christians getting richer, those dickheads will be lining up to accept Jesus as their lord and savior. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 30, 2015 02:12 AM (+Fae7) 848
When JEF is out of office, it's possible that the Egyptians may take a much larger role in stamping out extremist movements. An Egyptian division could deal with Libya. Another one would deal with ISIS.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 30, 2015 02:12 AM (5f5bM) 849
Colo, Resolving a PIR is something that can evolve with the team. In many cases they can be localized spatially or temporally.
What I saw commonly was the misuse of ISR assets for FP or other long term collections that would be marked by a change. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 02:12 AM (ztOda) 850
"Excuse me, but I have trouble seeing an essential difference between what Kyle did in Iraq and what Adam Lanza did at Sandy Hook Elementary School."
Sheldon Richman - Reason.com Thats because your morally retarded Sheldon. Posted by: puddleglum@work at January 30, 2015 02:14 AM (20X6f) 851
"If the bases were built in the middle of nowhere, then we wouldn't have to worry about the locals,"
One of the first things the Dim in the House did was ban the construction of permanent bases in Iraq (maybe Astan, I dont remember.) Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 02:15 AM (ztOda) 852
Caesar North:
Correct. The Kurds are tribalists, but I think they can be civilized. The trick is to get them into a trust based civilization. Being a separate cultural group in an Arab sea has started them on that road. Ethnic Arabs are pure tribalists. If you aren't a member of someone's family, clan, or tribe, you are someone who can be victimized. Kurds have been taught the hard way to trust each other, the first step to making a trust-based civilization. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 02:16 AM (6ROe1) 853
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Don't be like that halfrican - again, I was simply responding. but thank you. I could go on about personal experiences (as many here could), but that isn't the point. At 47, never married, no kids of my own, I am certainly not someone to turn to for advice on meeting the right woman - but if you want to meet a woman (then use your God given talents to decide if you two are right for each other), then maybe I can help? It ain't rocket surgery. And my simple self learned that easily enough... Just stop trying so hard. It's not attractive. Period. Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 02:19 AM (9y5/R) 854
The Germans were crushed. Crushed, and the members of the party
responsible hunted down and killed. Cities left in flaming ruins. By the time we were done, the Germans were simply happy we had stopped bombing them. I didn't say we didn't crush them, we stayed. The argument was to crush them and leave. (And the Germans weren't all that concerned about our bombing, they just wanted us to get to they're particular hamlet before the Russians.) Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 02:20 AM (ztOda) Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 02:21 AM (6ROe1) 856
Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 02:19 AM (9y5/R)
No no, I meant that. Really. It's shit I've tried to live by - so it validates me ha! - and what I've tried to tell my boys. Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 02:22 AM (R5HRU) 857
Jean:
We were able to stay in Germany because we did crush them. Utterly and completely. In Vietnam and Iraq, we did half-assed hearts and minds stuff. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 02:22 AM (6ROe1) 858
It wasn't about occupation, it was about bases. If the bases were built in the middle of nowhere, then we wouldn't have to worry about the locals, but they would know we are close by if we want to reach out and touch them. With bases in Iraq/Afghan, we could launch almost any kind of attack on Iran and kept Syria behaving.
Plus, we would be close by to protect the Kurds. Posted by: Ashley Judd's That sounds awfully like Viet firebase, static, loss-leader strategy. Rather, own the locale, own the reason for everyone's existence. "Americans for the most part would never allow it but I'm still convinced that the only 'solution' that would have actually created a strong 'democracy' there, would have been to turn the occupation over to a US Colonial Army. The country gets divided into corporate cells each ruled by a mid-to-high rank US NCO. By ruled, I'm mean ruled. He owns it and is responsible for everything including security and infrastructure. He also keeps the revenue from whatever projects or businesses he undertakes. After a decade or so, the colonial commanders could filter in the competent Iraqis into governing positions and slowly turn over the country bit by bit. Again, Americans don't have the seriousness or interest to do this kind of project, but the mixed up, State Dept-led nation building, $10 billion wad-shots, and ROE moderated nonsense was a poor default. Posted by: weft cut-loop" Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 02:23 AM (eQI/a) 859
846 Item cited in roughly 3/4 of my successful sexual encounters: "you make me laugh". Most of the time, she's referring to some point before we unzip -- thankfully.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 02:10 AM (T1005) -------------------- Dude, did you do that cartoon "sneaking" maneuver of yours? 'Cause I'm think that would be a panty dropper! Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 02:23 AM (9y5/R) 860
I read Dartmouth's President's Plan. By the fall of 2016, every student who enters Dartmouth will be placed in one of six house communities. Each community will have a cluster of residence halls as a home base, be responsible for organizing and hosting social and academic programs, and eventually, have a dedicated space for study and social interaction. Beginning sophomore year, students will reside within their residence hall cluster when living in the dorms, but even those students living in a first-year dorm, Greek house, affinity house or off-campus will be included in all community activities and events. Each Residence Community will have a house professor and graduate students in residence. This reads almost exactly like something, from a few years ago, where all freshmen were subjected to on-campus living, mandatory meetings and indoctrination. FIRE said that didn't flush, and forced Dartmouth to fix it. Now it's back, and based on a fabricated story. When will the firings begin? Posted by: Arbalest at January 30, 2015 02:26 AM (FlRtG) 861
Weft-cut loop:
Yep. Patton ran Bavaria. Period ( or at least until the Russians assassinated him ). MacArthur was Shogun of Japan. None of this elected government crap. They were allowed to govern themselves when they proved to our satisfaction that they could. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 02:26 AM (6ROe1) 862
Great.
It's turned into a helmet party, so we lost all the skirts... Shots are on me, ladies! Literally, if need be. Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 02:28 AM (9y5/R) 863
These may be good books for those who are interested in OIF:
https://tinyurl.com/oecnvjr https://tinyurl.com/kob8chq Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 30, 2015 02:31 AM (OsWis) 864
Jean, I emphasize to students that they need to refine PIRs to minimize the size of the NAI that they're looking at as well as minimize the time that they need to spend looking. Also, to push back when they receive poorly written PIRs from higher. The whole Army sucks at writing PIRs.
Misuse of ISR assets tends to come from poorly written PIRs and a failure of analysts to take a position. Instead they just want to collect data and dump it out again at the CUB. Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 30, 2015 02:31 AM (10ydV) 865
It's even more basic than that. We're dealing with
the company level, so usually they're relying on the Mk. I eyeball, plus maybe a Raven and/or an IR camera on a tank/IFV. I try to emphasize that they need to realize what they can collect organically vs. what they really do need support from higher for, as well as understand the ints and the basic capabilities of higher-level assets so that they don't waste an opportunity when they get the "hey you, we've got a Pred over your area for the next twenty minutes. What should they look at?" Posted by: Colorado Alex Been trying to get more organic ISR and Fire Support for a decade. Seems simple, a loitering UAV that can observe, target, and enhance comms and an easy way to push fire missions from your small ISR assets to your mortar fire control computer. I can cross link ISR stuff from [blank] to another services fast mover via satellite easier than I can get it from a Raven to a mortar team 100yd away. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 02:32 AM (ztOda) 866
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846 Item cited in roughly 3/4 of my successful sexual encounters: "you make me laugh". Most of the time, she's referring to some point before we unzip -- thankfully. Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 02:10 AM (T1005) -------------------- Dude, did you do that cartoon "sneaking" maneuver of yours? 'Cause I'm think that would be a panty dropper! Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 02:23 AM (9y5/R) Tucker wasn't quite as appreciative.....but the playful outlook is much the same. I'm usually willing to look ridiculous so long as it furthers my interests. Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 02:35 AM (T1005) Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2015 02:36 AM (sdi6R) 868
This is only an intro. If you are sincere in using those words for that woman, usually pretty effective.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 30, 2015 02:06 AM (5kNXS) I've tried that, but never had much success. Like I said above, what worked for me was finding activities that interested me that also had a good number of women. It allowed me to have a starting point for conversation. Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 30, 2015 02:36 AM (10ydV) 869
Yep. Patton ran Bavaria. Period ( or at least until the Russians assassinated him ).
Posted by: Kristophr ye - err- Patton was assassinated? MacArthur was Shogun of Japan. None of this elected government crap. They were allowed to govern themselves when they proved to our satisfaction that they could. Mac was not a Shogun in any sense or form. Austria and Edo were advanced, developed nation states, both fluent in the language of international law of the time. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 02:36 AM (eQI/a) 870
Push back on a PIR that asks for the mental state and intentions of someone 15mi away, hah.
The NAI = Every road in your AO seems to be the default. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 02:38 AM (ztOda) 871
Jean: Who owns that Raven?
One of the things the US Navy learned the hard way in WWII was that shipboard fire-control radar needed to be in the fire control room to be effective. When the Captain ordered the new radar console put in the FC room, their guns always hit at night. Always. No ranging shots, just right on target the first salvo. On ships where the Captain ordered the new radar consoles put on the bridge, they couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 02:40 AM (6ROe1) 872
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Hah! Maybe, if the subject persists, we could get an opinion from a broad - just sayin. *I don't want to offend any Morons, especially those that may be here now. Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 02:40 AM (9y5/R) 873
Wish piercello would stop by....I've got some news for him..
Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 02:42 AM (T1005) Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 30, 2015 02:45 AM (OsWis) 875
The surrender that was finally accepted pushed MacArthur as shogun. Truman fired the stalinist retard in the state department that wrote the first surrender demand, and replaced him with a second generation Japanese-American.
The US press got the Madisonian version. The official account of Patton's death was a traffic accident. The other vehicle just happened to be driven by a communist. I guess I'm just overly suspicious. And yes, the fact that Japan and Germany were already trust based civilizations made occupation a damned sight easier. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 02:46 AM (6ROe1) 876
Go ahead & throw your movie review of a post about milling machines out there, Elder God.
Only a few of us left - we chased off all the pretty ladies. I'm pouring shots! Who's up? Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 02:47 AM (9y5/R) Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 02:49 AM (R5HRU) 878
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866 Hah! Maybe, if the subject persists, we could get an opinion from a broad - just sayin. *I don't want to offend any Morons, especially those that may be here now. Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 02:40 AM (9y5/R) There have been studies of single-parent households where it was specifically noted that missing a father's willingness to dive in close and act goofy was a serious deficit in the kids' lives. Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 02:49 AM (T1005) 879
Jean: Who owns that Raven? I understand, but its a multipurpose asset. You couldn't navigate with the fire-control radar. The easy answer is buy more Ravens, but then you gotta have more soldiers trained to use them, more downlink terminals, more spectrum available .... Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 02:50 AM (ztOda) 880
Maybe a cheaper, smaller raven? One that belongs to whoever is directing fire?
Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 02:51 AM (6ROe1) 881
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Go ahead throw your movie review of a post about milling machines out there, Elder God. Only a few of us left - we chased off all the pretty ladies. I'm pouring shots! Who's up? Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 02:47 AM (9y5/R) How'd you guess it involved milling machines? Hello to every other moron with a Sieg -- clean out the spindle with acetone and likewise clean off the collets, 'cause the grease on the default (crappy) chuck tends to glue that SOB in there. Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 02:53 AM (T1005) 882
OK, I've got a glass. I'm ready for chi to call it.........
Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 02:54 AM (T1005) 883
Make them small, and disposable if needed. Hell, put a small explosive charge on them. Here ya go, Ahmed!
Give the forward observer for the mortar team a bunch of them. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 02:55 AM (6ROe1) 884
Maybe a cheaper, smaller raven? One that belongs to whoever is directing fire?
No, the problem is priorities in C2 systems are always oriented up instead of across. More funding to get targeting data for a Tomahawk parsed thru five diffident layers - then to get a handheld LRF to talk to a local mortar. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 02:55 AM (ztOda) 885
chi.........?
Posted by: cthulhu at January 30, 2015 02:58 AM (T1005) Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 02:59 AM (9y5/R) 887
Did anyone get (themselves) one of the Ghost Rifle machines for XMas
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 02:59 AM (ztOda) 888
Which is a complicated way to say the Raven doesn't belong to the mortar team.
And trying to use it for every damned thing, instead of designing something to just do the job needed. Which is why I would rather see that mortar team actually own a bag full of small disposable drones, than allow an R and D team to make a do every damned thing system, as usual. Posted by: Kristophr at January 30, 2015 02:59 AM (6ROe1) 889
I'm pouring shots! Who's up?
Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 02:47 AM (9y5/R) I'm drinking a beer (Golden IPA by Sierra Nevada, not bad) but I'll join you. Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 30, 2015 02:45 AM (OsWis) How're YOU doin' Warrior Princess? Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:00 AM (6fyGz) 890
nite y'all.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 30, 2015 03:00 AM (OsWis) 891
late SMFH
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 03:01 AM (R5HRU) Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:01 AM (6fyGz) 893
gah
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:01 AM (6fyGz) 894
Including oil-producing, terror-funding, janus-faced assholes.
Just a thought. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2015 02:05 AM (eQI/a) Is a janus-faced asshole some kind of South American confection? Posted by: model_1066 at January 30, 2015 03:04 AM (2OyJ3) 895
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well, apparently, the prettiest lady his still here. *tames wild beard with a little Tucker spittle, looks in mirror* Apparently, somewhere upthread they got into a discussion on how to meet women. I opined. Halfrican was a part of that discussion, so he can elaborate, I guess. I hope you did a shot with us... Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 03:05 AM (9y5/R) 896
So I picked up a sampler case of IPA's from Sierra Nevada, who doesn't make the best IPA IMO (Widmer Bro's Drifter IPA comes close but so far Demons Hop Yard IPA is the best) but makes a damn good one.
At any rate, there are four: Torpedo, which I have had before and like, Ruthless which is a rye, Golden which I just finished and it's OK, and Blindfold Black which is like a hoppy Porter. I'm not a big fan of the dark beers so the Blindfold is my least favorite of the four. I've just opened a Ruthless, so I'll be critiquing it in a minute. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:06 AM (6fyGz) 897
Is a janus-faced asshole some kind of South American confection?
Posted by: model_1066 at January 30, 2015 03:04 AM (2OyJ3) Apparently it is now. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:06 AM (6fyGz) 898
From the label: "Ruthless Rye IPA is brewed with rustic grains for refined flavors, combining the peppery spice of rye and the bright citrusy flavors of whole cone hops to create a complex ale for the tumultuous transition to spring."
GGE opinion...meh. It's OK I guess, but I wouldn't cross the street to get one. Unless it was free. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:11 AM (6fyGz) 899
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Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:11 AM (6fyGz) 900
900!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:12 AM (6fyGz) 901
Which is why I would rather see that mortar team actually own a bag full of small disposable drones
The Raven is about as small as we can make a system right now that is functional. The UAV is only one, relatively minor, part of the ISR problem at the Company level. The Company level is lucky to have it at all. What I would like to see at the Company is: 1. Each Company get 6-10 more soldiers 2. Dedicated Iridium (Voice and short message (CoT!!!)) at at least the squad level so local communications planning would have a reliable fallback without repeaters and planning 3. A better box of UGS (the toys exist - but only special people get them) 4. More dogs. 5. A towed auto-mortar for organic FS But, no one listens to me. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 03:13 AM (ztOda) 902
You killed th thread, GGE
Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 03:13 AM (9y5/R) 903
OK then, back to my book: "Track Planning for Realistic Operation" by John Armstrong. Third edition.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:13 AM (6fyGz) 904
These girls can do something I cannot do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzI7cgWgJcY I cannot do an overhead squat. My arms don't stay straight up over my head as I squat down. I am befuddled as to why my arms fall forward as I bend my knees towards the floor. Lack of flexibility is of course the culprit. But still, it's weird. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 30, 2015 03:13 AM (K8c3j) 905
You killed th thread, GGE
Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 03:13 AM (9y5/R) And chased SMFH away too, apparently. I've done enough damage here tonight I think. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:14 AM (6fyGz) 906
High west rye here, damn its late
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 03:14 AM (ztOda) Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:15 AM (6fyGz) 908
[820]That said, i used to go to my local bar 4/5 days a week. I would sit at
the corner, order a drink and my dinner, then try to sit quietly while I did the crossword puzzle. I looked smelled like rotten sawdust, grease, diesel yesterday's asscrack. I had a "reputation" for some reason. I minded my own business, totally disinterested in "the scene." It never failed - I would have numbers dropped in front of me a few times a week, or if I was in the mood, a companion for a night, weekend or a whatever... No shit. I go to bars and *read*. I always have, for 25 odd years now. I'm relaxing, and that's how I relax. Seeing a dude reading in a bar for some women is like a laser pointer for cats. Assuming you have a little bit of the gift from kissing the Blarney Stone, you can get your dick wet anytime you want to. I'm a fat, ugly, middle aged man and even though I've been off the market for 13 years.....man, if I wanted too......poon city. Just from being different and not apologizing for that difference. I'm confident in who I am. I'm a fat, ugly middle aged man. With a dick that reaches from here to Chicago. Ladies, my email is in my nic (j/k). Posted by: Weirddave at January 30, 2015 03:16 AM (WvS3w) 909
Huh. Screwed up the italics. I don't usually do that. Sorry.
Posted by: Weirddave at January 30, 2015 03:16 AM (WvS3w) 910
Maybe in Baltimore
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 03:18 AM (ztOda) 911
Heh.
Had my (and my Manager's) 1st "one on one" in an open call center type environment for a new project. He was concerned that I might have been nervous. It went swimmingly but a few min. over, so next in line had to come back to to his office (which is catty-corner from mine) after we were done and she could see I was back at my desk. Once she was walking juuust towards my office-space entrance and towards his desk, I put my head in my hands and started *fake* sobbing. "Oooh, hoo, hoo!" Gently yet pitched just right. All KINDS of heads gophered up, nearby. She did pause and then laughed. "Deety! Stop being mean!" Okay, Boss! Posted by: Deety at January 30, 2015 03:18 AM (gSkMY) Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 03:19 AM (9y5/R) Posted by: thathalfrican at January 30, 2015 03:20 AM (R5HRU) 914
Hey! Deety is here...
Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 03:21 AM (9y5/R) 915
Deety is...EVERYWHERE!
Posted by: Deety at January 30, 2015 03:23 AM (gSkMY) 916
So, in summary:
There are rules for flappers but not flappees Geography errors incur a penalty of 15 Neocons Exhaust port leaks can be best handled by a stillsuit Herr Moo Moo needs a stillsuit so we don't have to wade around knee deep in cowflop And talking with women is doable with training and persistance Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at January 30, 2015 03:24 AM (uPxUo) 917
G'night, halfrican.
I'll be turning in shortly, myself... Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 03:24 AM (9y5/R) 918
Deety, I only know you via cthulhu, but any friend of his is a friend of mine.
He was just here... Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 03:26 AM (9y5/R) 919
I don't get off until 12AM or 1AM EST so, I'm usually too late for joining in on the comments for ONT but I'm always checking in with y'all.
Posted by: Deety at January 30, 2015 03:26 AM (gSkMY) 920
And talking with women is doable with training and persistance
Until you get married, then just listen. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 03:27 AM (ztOda) 921
I'm a fat, ugly middle aged man.
With a dick that reaches from here to Chicago. Ladies, my email is in my nic (j/k). Posted by: Weirddave at January 30, 2015 03:16 AM (WvS3w) This guy is my hero. I want to be like him if I ever decide to grow up. Speak for yourself, "man what wears skirts" *are we still using Indian names? Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 03:19 AM (9y5/R) IT'S A KILT!!! (since BCochran has gone to bed like a sensible fellow). Which reminds me, I have a new one in the Navy Edzell tartan, but I'll have to rework it because it isn't pleated right. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:28 AM (6fyGz) 922
897 Is a janus-faced asshole some kind of South American confection?
Posted by: model_1066 at January 30, 2015 03:04 AM (2OyJ3) Apparently it is now. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:06 AM (6fyGz) In Soviet America, assholes are elected, not confected. Posted by: model_1066 at January 30, 2015 03:29 AM (2OyJ3) 923
Well chi,
If I can't have an Elder God vouch for me than what am I really? Say "Hi!" to Coothie for me, will 'ya? Posted by: Deety at January 30, 2015 03:29 AM (gSkMY) 924
Deety is...EVERYWHERE!
Posted by: Deety at January 30, 2015 03:23 AM (gSkMY) *looks around furtively* Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:30 AM (6fyGz) 925
You sew your pleats in, not fold them yourself. Piker
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 03:30 AM (ztOda) 926
You sew your pleats in, not fold them yourself. Piker
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 03:30 AM (ztOda) The problem with this one is the pleats are neither to the stripe, which would be appropriate for the US Navy Edzell tartan, nor to the sett. If there was a stripe in the pattern where the pleats are it would be correct, but they folded this one ON the stripe instead of TO the stripe...so it has to be redone. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:31 AM (6fyGz) 927
Also...this one needs another pleat or two owing to my fat ass.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:32 AM (6fyGz) 928
The WisconsiPiper pattern? I like it...
*you do know that I just enjoy having fun with the"skirt" thing, right? I'm sure it's not very original, but it's funny to me! Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 03:34 AM (9y5/R) 929
"it's worse than that...it's dead, Jim..."
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:34 AM (6fyGz) 930
We always had to fold our own. Extra pleats were not a problem when you had the opportunist to run every day in the Charleston heat.
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 03:36 AM (ztOda) 931
*you do know that I just enjoy having fun with the"skirt" thing, right?
I'm sure it's not very original, but it's funny to me! Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 03:34 AM (9y5/R) Laugh it up fuzzball. We're gonna have to have a Tidewater MoMe some time before CDR M retires, y'know. Don't know when that will be, but sooner rather than later I hope. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:36 AM (6fyGz) 932
Stick around a hot minute, and say " hi" yourself, Deety - I'll call him if I have to !
Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 03:36 AM (9y5/R) 933
We always had to fold our own. Extra pleats were not a problem when you had the opportunist to run every day in the Charleston heat. Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 03:36 AM (ztOda) If you have the Great Kilt you can fold them yourself, but the traditional kilt (or at least traditional as far as the one everyone thinks of when you say "kilt") has them pretty much sewn in. If I had the material I'd do the Great Kilt; 60" by 7- 9 yards. Not happening soon, at least not in the Edzell tartan (runs around $53 per yard at current exchange rates). Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:38 AM (6fyGz) 934
GGE,
I'm sure Jinx would come down - you've met him, right? And I know there are a few 'rons between here and Richmond... Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 03:40 AM (9y5/R) 935
We had old ones.
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 03:41 AM (ztOda) Posted by: Deety at January 30, 2015 03:41 AM (gSkMY) 937
I drive down to dam neck all the time, Hooters?
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 03:43 AM (ztOda) 938
Deety - too late. I just e-mailed AND texted him. And his flipphone is from 1997. I haven't texted in him in - a year?
Jean - you're local? I'm at the VAB/Norfolk border... Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 03:48 AM (9y5/R) 939
Yes I've met Jinx, and there are lotsa roonz/ettez in the Raleigh/NoVa/Tidewater triangle that should be able to make it to a meetup.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 03:57 AM (6fyGz) 940
No I'm in NOVA - but I have to go down to Dalhgren and your area all the time. I hate 64
Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2015 04:00 AM (ztOda) 941
I've regretted every conversation I have eve had with a woman.
Posted by: Garrett at January 30, 2015 04:01 AM (7+hc/) 942
Time for me to stop drinking -
My mind just turned those two comments into one- "I regret every conversation with I've every women I've ever spoken with. I hate 64 women." Posted by: shredded chi at January 30, 2015 04:15 AM (9y5/R) 943
Is this the anus thread?
Posted by: otho at January 30, 2015 04:21 AM (tBSrv) 944
64? It's a start I guess.
Posted by: Garrett at January 30, 2015 04:21 AM (7+hc/) 945
You've regretted conversing with 64 women? *looks at bottle*
yeah...maybe time for me to hang it up as well. Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil! Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 04:22 AM (6fyGz) 946
Is this the anus thread?
Posted by: otho at January 30, 2015 04:21 AM (tBSrv) It is now that you're here. OK, now I'm really out. Later roonz and roonettez! Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 04:22 AM (6fyGz) 947
It is now that you're here.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 30, 2015 04:22 AM Oh, goody. Finally, respect at last! Posted by: otho at January 30, 2015 04:24 AM (tBSrv) Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 30, 2015 05:12 AM (F1ZcE) 949
And off to look for shooting ear plugs
Anyone know any that work? &&& Don't shoot them while they are plugging your ears. Posted by: fluffy at January 30, 2015 05:37 AM (Ua6T/) 950
950th!!!!
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at January 30, 2015 05:57 AM (U7H1n) 951
163 Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 29, 2015 10:59 PM (K8c3j)
Sooth I think you're wrong but only in one sense. This season's "guest big bad" to Boyd is going to be "Fracking Companies" and they are working in a "Blackwater is Teh Devil" side storyline... Essentially since they decided "fuck it we're done" the more liberal writers are going to get their kicks in for "the cause" with Raylan as the kicker. He was on a tear about "folk who are on welfare but think we're gonna take their guns away so they hate the government...." anyway I am gonna stick with the show b/c in for penny in for year 6 but yeah it *is* repetitive... OTOH what else could it be, and aren't most shows REALLY anyway....? Gunsmoke was the same six or seven shows for nigh 12 years and it worked... how many times can Columbo "one more thing..." corner people...Perry Mason do his thing...the answer when well executed is *a lot*... it just seems they are going through the motions and letting their freak flag fly this season.... Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 30, 2015 06:12 AM (/4AZU) 952
I like dames...and they are "just folk"....
I was taught to be extra polite to them, and I strive to be. Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 30, 2015 06:13 AM (/4AZU) 953
And off to look for shooting ear plugs
Anyone know any that work? http://tinyurl.com/k6y7ouu I have a few pair but, in-the-ear plugs get real sweaty real fast. I have a pair of the foamy kind with a string between them. The string was a complete PIA. I prefer over the ear now. Since I am careful with my money(read cheap), I now use a $10 pair from Harbor Freight. Comfortable and effective. Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 30, 2015 06:15 AM (XzRw1) 954
953 Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 30, 2015 06:15 AM (XzRw1)
The Mil Spec ones work pretty well in my experience... of course we had a little carrier for ours.... wore it under the pocket and over my heart. Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 30, 2015 06:19 AM (/4AZU) 955
With a dick that reaches from here to Chicago.
Ladies, my email is in my nic (j/k). Posted by: Weirddave at January 30, 2015 03:16 AM (WvS3w) When you're posting from inside The Loop, I really wouldn't brag. Posted by: RickZ at January 30, 2015 06:26 AM (vhqxt) 956
Wow, lots of posts on this thread. Anyways I want to get back to neocon Maet (j/k!) on the Reason article. I haven't had time to go thru all the comments either here or on Reason.com, but most of the regular commenters there don't consider the author of the piece to be particularly Libertarian. Now of course there is a strong stream of 'no true libertarian (scotsman)' that runs thru the commentariat, but they seem to really dislike this author.
Remember that Weigel used to work there was hated as well. I don't think its necessarily a good benchmark to use this article as a point that all/most/many(?) libertarians believe. In the PM links, the commenters were discussing how Reason.com is off track with some of their writers there were some serious suggestions about it. Posted by: Buddy Bizarre at January 30, 2015 06:41 AM (W6m9k) 957
Dingleberrys, anal warts, and hair included in deluxe anus molding package.
Posted by: Lena Dunham-Bacon at January 30, 2015 06:42 AM (XhU6A) 958
I've done work in lot of US banks. That ATM bombing method would not work. The ATM is typically secured in a room that would take considerable effort to break into while alarms are blaring and cops are on the way. The amount of cash one could reap this way is pretty lousy considering the sentencing requirements for bank robbery.
Los Angeles is the bank robbery capital of the nation. If anyone is dumb enough to try it, it will probably be here. Posted by: Epobirs at January 30, 2015 07:55 AM (IdCqF) 959
I've long said the purpose of sororities is to provide excuses to turn down men.
I know this my personal experience. "Oh, I have a sorority meeting that night." Posted by: WannabeAnglican at January 30, 2015 08:16 AM (vFmT2) Posted by: Stealth small "l" at January 30, 2015 08:40 AM (HEo6y) Posted by: thatcraxyjerseyguy at January 30, 2015 08:51 AM (TPimP) Posted by: thatcraxyjerseyguy at January 30, 2015 08:53 AM (TPimP) 963
Well, this is so late that I'm sure no one will read it......but regarding the Reason link, Sheldon Richman (the author) is commonly one of the most heavily abused Reason contributors in the comments sections of his pieces. He's most notable for his frequent whitewashing of Iran and other instances of Rothbardian idiocy. In other words, he's a jackass who is largely ignored or mocked by the majority of readers. At least, a majority who comment. He and Steve Chapman are the biggest jokes at Reason. Anyway, as someone who reads both AOSHQ and Reason daily and comments infrequently at each, what bothers me is that people who have common cause on the majority of issues seem to reserve their most intense anger for each other, rather than the leftists who are the true enemy. It's oftentrue over there, it's often true here. Posted by: radar at January 30, 2015 09:13 AM (kQfqk) 964
Mark Steyn was talking about the UN, but it works for
Posted by: pandelume at January 30, 2015 09:18 AM (NSF1r) 965
libertarians, too
Posted by: pandelume at January 30, 2015 09:19 AM (NSF1r) 966
What this post needs is another photo of an IDF soldier.
Posted by: bjk at January 30, 2015 10:11 AM (DOgiJ) 967
Late as hell, but might as well throw in my 2 cents.
The ration is more like 8:2 delicious ice cream and dog poop. Abortion is another one that makes people think Libertarians only care about legal pot. Ron Paul, and admitted kook when it comes to foreign policy and the global reality, is firmly pro-life since, you know, Libertarians are supposed to be all about respecting everyone's rights and non-aggression and stuff. But the mental gymnastics many supposed Libertarians have to pull off to justify the libertine aspect of their politics beggars belief. It never seems to occur to them that if you have to go out of your way to justify violating the rights of a particular group to invent ones you supposedly have, you're doing liberty wrong. Posted by: Saber Alter at January 30, 2015 01:50 PM (R/KIS) Processing 0.09, elapsed 0.1075 seconds. |
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