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Overnight Open Thread (1-27-2015)

The Ignorance of the American People

What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public.

-- Ray Zalinsky, car parts entrepreneur

And the American public clearly want to get rid of the Public Affairs Act because of its continuing ill effects on the country:

Many weeks back I wrote here about the polls from the 1990s in which a majority of Democrats favored repealing the Public Affairs Act of 1975 because Bill Clinton was said to recommended repeal, with the punch line being that there is no such thing as the Public Affairs Act of 1975. It was a contrivance of pollsters to check on public ignorance.

And also want government-mandated labels on all food containing DNA. For the children.

A recent survey by the Oklahoma State University Department of Agricultural Economics finds that over 80 percent of Americans support "mandatory labels on foods containing DNA," about the same number as support mandatory labeling of GMO foods "produced with genetic engineering." Oklahoma State economist Jayson Lusk has some additional details on the survey. If the government does impose mandatory labeling on foods containing DNA, perhaps the label might look something like this:

"WARNING: This product contains deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA). The Surgeon General has determined that DNA is linked to a variety of diseases in both animals and humans. In some configurations, it is a risk factor for cancer and heart disease. Pregnant women are at very high risk of passing on DNA to their children."

Oh and approximately half of all Americans approve of the job that President Obama is doing.

Is Public Opinion Rational?

Well the public in general knows so little about so much - but it turns out that that doesn't necessarily make them irrational or incapable of making decent public policy choices.

One recent headline summed it up: "British Public wrong about nearly everything, and I'd bet good money that it isn't just the British who are exceptionally misinformed.

This looks like a problem for democracy, which supposes a rational and informed public opinion. But perhaps it isn't, at least according to a body of political science research neatly summarised by Will Jennings in his chapter of a new book "Sex, lies & the ballot box: 50 things you need to know about British elections".

But they're ignorant - not stupid - and can still tell which way the trends are blowing even if they're off on the absolute state of things. Which is one reason pollsters focus so much on the right track/wrong track results.

Will's chapter discusses the "public opinion as thermostat" theory. This, briefly, is that the public can be misinformed about absolute statistics, but we can still change our strength of feeling in an appropriate way. So, for example, we may be misled about the absolute unemployment rate, but can still discern whether unemployment is getting better or worse. There's evidence to support this view, and the chapter includes this striking graph (reproduced with permission), showing the percentage of people saying "unemployment" is the most important issue facing the country against the actual unemployment rate . As you can see public opinion tracks reality with remarkable accuracy.

mii_unem

Jew-Walking in Malmo

Unsafe to wear a Star of David or a kippah in the streets of Malmo, Sweden:

The result: "He received direct threats as he walked through the city," according to expressen.se.

Lindgren, walking with a hidden camera and microphone alongside, recorded every step. The report showed the reporter enduring verbal abuse by a man who called him a "Jewish s***" and told him to "leave." Another person hit him and shouted "Satan Jew," at him.
As they approached the the city's neighborhoods with higher Muslim populations, the threats only increased. Some 20 percent of the 300,000 residents of Sweden's third-largest city are Muslim, according to statistics.

A Marine Sharpshooter Explains Why American Snipers Are Not Cowards

And by the same Michael Moore logic wouldn't that make every single pilot or artillery crew also cowards? If you give the enemy a fair shot in wartime, you're not doing it right.

Giving College Admissions the Alinsky Treatment

A group of Stanford students have discovered a way to access their own confidential admissions files - including comments by admissions officers, criticisms of their applications, and information about how their status as minorities, athletes, or legacies affected their applications.
The staff of an anonymous Stanford publication called The Fountain Hopper is encouraging thousands of students at Stanford and other universities nationwide to request their own files, potentially cracking open the secretive and controversial world of elite colleges admissions.

...If you go to HarvardNotFair.org, you'll find yourself on a page that says this: Were You Denied Admission to Harvard? It may be because you're the wrong race.

Why Some Teams Are Smarter Than Others

Need moar chicks?

Now the NYT reports on recent research on why some groups, like some people, are reliably smarter than others. In one study, researchers grouped 697 volunteer participants into teams of two to five members. Each team worked together to complete a series of short tasks, which were selected to represent the varied kinds of problems that groups are called upon to solve in the real world. One task involved logical analysis, another brainstorming; others emphasized coordination, planning and moral reasoning. Teams with higher average I.Q.s didn't score much higher on collective intelligence tasks than did teams with lower average I.Q.s. Nor did teams with more extroverted people, or teams whose members reported feeling more motivated to contribute to their group's success. Instead, the smartest teams were distinguished by three characteristics (PDF). First, their members contributed more equally to the team's discussions, rather than letting one or two people dominate the group. Second, their members scored higher on a test called Reading the Mind in the Eyes, which measures how well people can read complex emotional states from images of faces with only the eyes visible. Finally, teams with more women outperformed teams with more men. It appeared that it was not "diversity" (having equal numbers of men and women) that mattered for a team's intelligence, but simply having more women. This last effect, however, was partly explained by the fact that women, on average, were better at "mindreading" than men. Interestingly enough, a second study has now replicated the these findings for teams that worked together online communicating purely by typing messages into a browser .

Also: People Who Are Good at Cocktail Parties Are Also Better on the Internet

If you're interested in the Reading the Mind in the Eyes test, you can take it here. You might also be interested in Paul Ekman's microexpressions and tests based on them.

eye3

One Way to Get an Antenna Up

I'll have to show this to Mrs. Maetenloch as further justification for my recent drone purchase.

A Look Back at Gun Magazines From 50 Years Ago

Weapons man takes a look back at gun magazines from 1964 and finds that their cover stories mainly covered single-shot and bolt-action rifles and the occasional revolver. Semi-auto guns weren't covered at all.

What didn't show up, of course, is a modern military or military-style weapon, or even a semi-auto. Most of the guns shown on the cover of Guns 50 years ago were single-shots. It wasn't just the covers that were missing these rifles; there are very few stories inside the magazines about military weapon development. Don't take our word for it; download the magazines and check them out yourself. Guns has made them freely available for us.

But in the very last issue of 1964 something appeared that was nothing at all like anything else seen in any of the magazines and would go on to dominate the firearms market five decades later.

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1 First

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2015 10:20 PM (0Ew3K)

2 Nice

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:20 PM (u/Asb)

3 Boko Haram vs Rotherham

Social Justice warriors know that the revealed truth is that eeevil racists Whites don't care about girls being kidnapped unless the girls are White.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=8051

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2015 10:20 PM (0Ew3K)

4 Evening, Morons

Posted by: fluffy at January 27, 2015 10:21 PM (Ua6T/)

5 Women vs Womyn vs Trans-Women

Looks like a poster the declares the "identity" of "non-binary persons" is valid (non-binary obviously meaning '80's fashion reject) has sparked another quibble between "trans-women" (i.e. men who think they are chicks) and actual women.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=7872

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2015 10:21 PM (0Ew3K)

6
evenin, fagz

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 27, 2015 10:22 PM (q19mL)

7 It looks like an earthquake is imminent from that graph.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 10:22 PM (5+sBB)

8 Hola, amigoz en loz tuboz!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2015 10:22 PM (T1005)

9 An 'injunction against ignorance'?

A good start in that would be abolishing the Teachers Union.

Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 10:23 PM (hX3bN)

10 More graphs.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 10:23 PM (WkdDe)

11 We don't need no education.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 10:23 PM (5+sBB)

12 Drones are the next evil. I would keep my ownership mum Maet

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:24 PM (u/Asb)

13 "Many weeks back I wrote here about the polls from the 1990s in which a majority of Democrats favored repealing the Public Affairs Act of 1975 because Bill Clinton was said to recommended repeal, with the punch line being that there is no such thing as the Public Affairs Act of 1975."

I have to confess that my favorite gig of this type was from the bogus clipboard solicitors asking college students to please sign to support fourth trimester abortion rights.

"It's for Obama" being the most reliable closer line.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2015 10:25 PM (noWW6)

14 So, we all know Nick Searcy is a Moron, and either he, or one of the Justified writers saw fit to have some goon who was tailing' Raylan call him a cockholster when he confronted him.

Posted by: Art Mullen's Marshal stiffy at January 27, 2015 10:26 PM (tdmtT)

15 "Like an Empress rising above the Serengeti."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 10:26 PM (+eQyZ)

16 British Public wrong about nearly everything because the British Press fails to accurately report the news people are interested in.

That survey is not a measure of public knowledge. It is a measure of the effectiveness of British media in informing the public.

Posted by: Xylan le Kronlaist at January 27, 2015 10:26 PM (PKZ94)

17 Evening morons. Battling Darwin, because they pay me a ton of money to do it and not everyone deserves to die.

Leave me some good snark to read if/when I have down time.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 27, 2015 10:26 PM (WUYpW)

18 Wonderful wonderful ONT. So much content

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 10:26 PM (zOTsN)

19 12 Drones are the next evil. I would keep my ownership mum Maet
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:24 PM (u/Asb)


Too late. When even my middle-school nephews have a quad-copter, the drone menace is truly out of the bag

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 10:27 PM (pAlYe)

20 Malmö Juden experience coming to a university near you!

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 10:27 PM (zOTsN)

21 13

I was partial to Penn and Teller's gag on Bullshit: they passed around a petition to ban the commercial use of dihydrogen monoxide. The actress holding the petition: "it's a chemical...and corporations use it!"

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at January 27, 2015 10:27 PM (KDui7)

22 Re: Fighting "Fair"

"No dumb son of a bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. You win a war by making some other dumb son of a bitch die for HIS country!"

Gen. George Patton, US Army

Posted by: Captain Comic at January 27, 2015 10:28 PM (cDBRo)

23 Anyone heard from Carol?

Posted by: NCKate at January 27, 2015 10:28 PM (EBMYe)

24 >>>17 Evening morons. Battling Darwin, because they pay me a ton of money to do it and not everyone deserves to die.
--------

God you young folks make me smile at times

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:28 PM (u/Asb)

25 Do they have a radio controlled helicopter that can operate a thermal detonator?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 10:28 PM (5+sBB)

26 The Instagram article had no photos.

Posted by: fluffy at January 27, 2015 10:28 PM (Ua6T/)

27 The only non-cowardly fighting is Sumo wrestling.

Posted by: Michael Moron at January 27, 2015 10:29 PM (W5DcG)

28 Bordeaux!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 10:29 PM (L6/+u)

29 "Semi-auto guns weren't covered at all."


No, they really weren't. People really didn't have them. Maybe an M-1 or an old 1895. Everybody pretty much had a bolt, pump, lever, or, single shot. The M-16 "Space Gun" was pretty vilified at the time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 10:29 PM (WkdDe)

30 "Unsafe to wear a Star of David or a kippah in the streets of Malmo, Sweden"

The sexual assault rate -- and this is violently coerced sexual assault, not "I had sex voluntarily and later felt bad about it" sexual assault -- is through the roof in Scandinavia.

Hint hint: it's not the Scandi locals who are causing this.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2015 10:29 PM (noWW6)

31 So, are we going to launch an expedition to build a bridge between the twin peaks of Kilimanjaro?

Posted by: Anachronda at January 27, 2015 10:29 PM (o78gS)

32 Oh.
Is Misanthropic Humanitarian not playing "name a place in France"?

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 10:30 PM (L6/+u)

33 Some 20 percent of the 300,000 residents of Sweden's third-largest city are Muslim, according to statistics.

What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Inga the Buxom Blonde Goat at January 27, 2015 10:30 PM (Dwehj)

34 18 Wonderful wonderful ONT. So much content

Yes yes.
Maet continues to be a giver, despite our unworthiness.

Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 10:30 PM (hX3bN)

35 "Anyone heard from Carol?"


Earlier tonight she was on.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 10:30 PM (WkdDe)

36 If Michael Moore says snipers are cowards, what about Obama's drones?

Posted by: Squirrel at January 27, 2015 10:31 PM (uYq+M)

37 Too late. When even my middle-school nephews have a quad-copter, the drone menace is truly out of the bag
Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 10:27 PM (pAlYe)

It will be fun to watch the stalking and attacks that will come about. National Drone Association is needed

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:31 PM (u/Asb)

38 >>> Anyone heard from Carol?

She may be tired from shoveling snow.

Posted by: fluffy at January 27, 2015 10:31 PM (Ua6T/)

39 23 Anyone heard from Carol?

She was here earlier...said there wasabout 3 feet of snow at her place.

Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 10:31 PM (hX3bN)

40 All the things.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 10:31 PM (MDgS8)

41 Some of the quad-copter drones are as small as a person's hand.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 10:32 PM (+eQyZ)

42 16 British Public wrong about nearly everything because the British Press fails to accurately report the news people are interested in.
That survey is not a measure of public knowledge. It is a measure of the effectiveness of British media in informing the public.
Posted by: Xylan le Kronlaist at January 27, 2015 10:26 PM (PKZ94)


Well some of that article just reflects how well people have absorbed PC factoids. But other parts do reflect real inaccurate beliefs on the part of the public. And that's true here as well - many people are convinced that foreign aid accounts for around 25% of the federal budget when in fact it's around 2%.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 10:32 PM (pAlYe)

43
Reading the Mind in the Eyes test

Your score is 29 out of 36

The average score is 26.



Yay! I guess.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 27, 2015 10:32 PM (kdS6q)

44 Drones? You mean radio controlled model airplanes?
we are going to ban RC toys now?

Posted by: Xylan le Kronlaist at January 27, 2015 10:32 PM (PKZ94)

45 "It's for Obama" being the most reliable closer line.
Posted by: torquewrench


Cocaine is for closers!

Posted by: David Axelrod, who was once famous at January 27, 2015 10:32 PM (+1T7c)

46 "One way to get your antenna up"


Another Bob Dole story?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 10:33 PM (WkdDe)

47 42 I know how we can painlessly cut the Federal Budget by 2%.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 10:33 PM (5+sBB)

48 The funny thing about big mountains is you're seeing them from an angle around the Earth's curvature.

They're even bigger than they look.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 10:34 PM (MDgS8)

49 32 Oh.
Is Misanthropic Humanitarian not playing "name a place in France"?
Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 10:30 PM (L6/+u)

Not tonight as I am geographically challenged at the moment andy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:34 PM (u/Asb)

50 The Instagram article had no photos.
Posted by: fluffy

Drat! No internet pubic hair!!

Posted by: Reggie Love at January 27, 2015 10:34 PM (+1T7c)

51 Thanks, guys.

Posted by: NCKate at January 27, 2015 10:35 PM (EBMYe)

52 Jay Leno and Howard Stern long ago proved Americans don't know anything.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 10:35 PM (0LHZx)

53
And the most 80s thing I've seen in a while:

Lio - Banana Split

http://youtu.be/bsqLi9LfiwM

Was top of the charts in France, apparently.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 27, 2015 10:35 PM (kdS6q)

54 A majority of Americans voted for TFG, twice.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 10:36 PM (5+sBB)

55 245 Update on prayer request for best friend Mike. Stroke was on left side of brain in the carotid artery. The blockage resulted in hemmoraging as well. His entire right side is affected. Brain loss according to neurologist is "significant". He is blind in his right eye as well and still suffering from blurred vision in his left eye. All of the result of mistreated atrial fibrillation by the VA. He did recognize us and squeezed hand when prompted. A long, long rehab will be required and outcome is totally unknown. Thanks again for the prayers. Back to lurk mode know.

From tail end of early AM thread.

He was able to take soft food this PM. Big step but one of many. Back to Charlotte on Friday. Thanks for the prayers, they certainly helped me.

Posted by: Agitator at January 27, 2015 10:36 PM (QxiBQ)

56 There wasn't a link to back it up but I read a comment once that claimed all of the stranger-on-stranger rape in Sweden (i.e. don't know attacker; and contrasted with being raped by someone known to you) was Moslem. Not too hard to believe.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 10:36 PM (L6/+u)

57 Jay Leno and Howard Stern long ago proved Americans don't know anything.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo



Dare to be Stupid!!

Posted by: Weird Al Yankovic at January 27, 2015 10:36 PM (+1T7c)

58 Howard Stern was funny.

Then he wasn't. His schtick got old.

Jay Leno was funny with the Real Ads bit but that was about it.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 10:37 PM (MDgS8)

59 Jay Leno and Howard Stern long ago proved Americans don't know anything.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo

I thought Joe Biden and the folks in Delaware proved that many years ago.

Posted by: fairweatherbill holding dominion over the nether regions at January 27, 2015 10:37 PM (T4hDz)

60 46 "One way to get your antenna up"


Another Bob Dole story?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 10:33 PM (WkdDe)

Snickers.
Well played RK

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:37 PM (u/Asb)

61 56 There wasn't a link to back it up but I read a comment once that claimed all of the stranger-on-stranger rape in Sweden (i.e. don't know attacker; and contrasted with being raped by someone known to you) was Moslem. Not too hard to believe.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 10:36 PM (L6/+u)


Yeah if it's not 100%, it's got to be something like 95%+. The rape problem in Scandinavia (and Australia to lesser degree) is really an out of control Muslim male problem.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 10:37 PM (pAlYe)

62 Kili, otherwise known as The Mountain of Shit.

SO many people trek it that both sides of all approaches are hip deep in human shit. Which, of course, does not rapidly break down at the higher levels.

Eco-fags are fighting the construction of bioactive pit shitters ('Doggie Doolies') because it would 'despoil the environment.'

Their solution is of course simply to ban trekking...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 10:37 PM (ASn1R)

63 56 Some years 100% of stranger rape in Norway is by mohomodans.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 10:37 PM (5+sBB)

64 When will there be a drone fighting TV show like Robot Wars?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2015 10:39 PM (W5DcG)

65 "name a place in France"?

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 10:30 PM

I got three.

1) a park.

2) a restaurant.

3) France.

Posted by: otho at January 27, 2015 10:39 PM (tBSrv)

66 What's amazing about that Kilimanjaro photo is those are all Indian Elephants that went to Africa to paint landscapes.

Posted by: Garrett at January 27, 2015 10:39 PM (bsFjT)

67 Posted by: Agitator at January 27, 2015 10:36 PM (QxiBQ)


So sorry to hear about your friend, for whom I wish only the best, as for you.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 10:39 PM (oKE6c)

68 I'm fine here near Boston. I haven't been on ONT lately because I discovered Boardwalk Empire & watching it on demand.
I wrote only because I read synopsis of Boardwalk Empire & refreshed page.

Here w/in 6-7 miles of Boston it's a winter wonderland if you like it. Back porch on first floor has snow up to edge. That's natural snow & only added what my brother & one of best friends shoveled off that porch. It's 14 degrees as of last time I looked at thermometer.

Mountains of snow all over the street & governor ordered no driving after midnight last night & Mass Pike was supposed to try to open tonight but I've been watching Boardwalk Empire on demand.

Have a good ONT!

Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 10:39 PM (sj3Ax)

69 Hoooorde!


>>>Maet continues to be a giver, despite our unworthiness.

This right here is some top notch groveling.

Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 10:40 PM (e+1S5)

70 Yeah if it's not 100%, it's got to be something 95%+. The rape problem in Scandinavia (and Australia to lesser degree) is really an out of control Muslim male problem.
Posted by: Maetenloch

Aren't they all in Phi Kappa Psi fraternity? Bet they are.

Posted by: Michelle Obama, esq at January 27, 2015 10:40 PM (+1T7c)

71 there is no such thing as the Public Affairs Act of 1975

I don't follow politics, but I definitely think that dihydrogen monoxide should be banned. It's a dangerous chemical, and it has no place in our food supply.

Posted by: My vote cancels yours out at January 27, 2015 10:40 PM (sdi6R)

72 Evening Horde.

Headed off to bed here shortly, but I just wanted to let you fine people know that AtC and I have another podcast up.

Link in my nic.

Hope you enjoy and hope you folks have a good night!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2015 10:40 PM (GEICT)

73 Got 25 of 36 on the test.


I'm very average.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 10:40 PM (WkdDe)

74 "name a place in France"?

Posted by: andycanuck


A place where the ladies wear no pants.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 27, 2015 10:40 PM (Zi7PZ)

75 >>65 "name a place in France"?


Oh, I know this...

It's where the naked ladies dance, right?

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 27, 2015 10:41 PM (bsFjT)

76 Reading the Mind in the Eyes test

Your score is 25 out of 36

The average score is 26.



I thought all the men were suspicious and all the women were looking for free drinks. So just kind of plugged in the closest answer.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 27, 2015 10:41 PM (NaeCR)

77 59 Jay Leno and Howard Stern long ago proved Americans don't know anything.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo


Well really just some selected people in highly edited video clips don't know anything. You can always find normal-looking idiots in any crowd if you look hard enough.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 10:41 PM (pAlYe)

78 I scored 30/36 on the Reading the Mind in the Eyes test. I guess it's a good skill to have.

Posted by: no good deed at January 27, 2015 10:41 PM (w3a0Z)

79 Be safe Carol.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:42 PM (u/Asb)

80 Oops. Wrong thread.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 10:42 PM (oKE6c)

81 "Howard Stern was funny.

Then he wasn't. His schtick got old. "

He went to satellite and somehow got less funny.

Opie and Anthony on the other hand . . . well, at least they had a good run. I miss Anthony.

Posted by: Paul at January 27, 2015 10:42 PM (1vxz6)

82 32 out of 36


Not bad. Must come from interviewing witness's and cross exams

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 10:42 PM (zOTsN)

83 If you breathe dihydrogen monoxide it will kill you.


Seriously.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 10:42 PM (MDgS8)

84
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo

Well really just some selected people in highly edited video clips don't know anything. You can always find normal-looking idiots in any crowd if you look hard enough.
Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 10:41 PM (pAlYe

Types
deletes
Types some more
Deletes again
Fug it

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:43 PM (u/Asb)

85 we are going to ban RC toys now?

Now you RC fags get to experience how us model rocket guys took it in the ass after 9/11.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at January 27, 2015 10:43 PM (zauWW)

86 MH, I think you've gotten more snow in Wisconsin this week than NYC did.

Are you going to survive?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 10:43 PM (WkdDe)

87 I can wrap up the ignorance of America in one word.

Kardashians

Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 27, 2015 10:43 PM (cNJvW)

88 Great. So I use "place" rather than "region" and I get mocked for it. Well, go ahead and mock me but FIRST YOU WILL BLOW ME!!1!!!11!!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 10:44 PM (L6/+u)

89 Now you RC fags get to experience how us model rocket guys took it in the ass after 9/11.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget


That's hot.

Posted by: Reggie Love at January 27, 2015 10:45 PM (+1T7c)

90 The crazy thing about the Kardashians is their butts are implants.

And only one of them is even attractive.

I will never understand the fascination.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 10:46 PM (MDgS8)

91 86 MH, I think you've gotten more snow in Wisconsin this week than NYC did.

Are you going to survive?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 10:43 PM (WkdDe)

Hell yes.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:46 PM (u/Asb)

92 When Stern went satty that was it. He couldn't be edgy anymore. He just said "it." The fun was is skirting around "it" and drawing the resulting fire.


He did get paid a metric shitload, however.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 10:46 PM (WkdDe)

93 About reading people

When my kids were really little I told them I was a human lie detector. I would tell them to let me hold thier fore fingers and I could tell if they were lying or not. Worked everytime. Still does

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 10:46 PM (zOTsN)

94 86: Wife had to run snowblower today. Plow went up the street. Oh, the humanity! Wheres my free shit? I live in Wisconsin we always get screwed.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2015 10:46 PM (ucDmr)

95 First Lady didn't cover up in Saudi Arabia but remember that green pant suit and jot head scarf she wore in Indonesia a few years back.

Posted by: Uncle Joey B at January 27, 2015 10:47 PM (5qSUm)

96 Speaking of France:

How Marine Le Pen is Winning France's Gay Vote

http://tinyurl.com/lseochz

Gee, I wonder why?

Posted by: Thrawn at January 27, 2015 10:47 PM (d7XFS)

97 ThunderB, remind your son that if he quits, the assholes win.

If he could use ...I dunno, and encouraging letter or something, or just a random surprise gift in the mail from a stranger, or whatever, please let me know.

Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 27, 2015 10:48 PM (Pauop)

98 From a dead thread:

How does Cleveland handle snow? Or Buffalo? Syracuse? They're big-ish cities. They have a shit ton of snow every year thanks to lake effect. They're big cities and somehow manage to clear the snow and go about their business without shutting the city down every time a flurry is in the air.



Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 05:13 PM (0LHZx)



What these cities have are equipment, stockpiled materials, and the knowledge of what they face. I lived in a small northern Michigan town for two years. Gaylord (stop laughing; it's undignified) gets a lot of lake-effect snow. The county and state plows all had a full-size truck tire as an outrigger support for the plows. People put up fences near their mailboxes so the snow and ice plowed off the roads did not smash their mailboxes. It is one thing to know what is going to happen has happened before and plan for that; it is another thing to have "what has happened before' to be ten years or more in the past and not eight months ago.


I also learned that a 1990 Escort was awesome in the snow! Even over a foot that little beast just chugged right along; made me feel real secure when I passed 4x4's that were in the ditch.

I also learned how terrifying a whiteout is when I went through three of them on M-72 going to Traverse City. "Where did everything go? It's all snow..."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 10:48 PM (g+akU)

99 94 86: Wife had to run snowblower today. Plow went up the street. Oh, the humanity! Wheres my free shit? I live in Wisconsin we always get screwed.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2015 10:46 PM (ucDmr)

Wife ran snowblower? Holy crap does she fillet fish too?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:49 PM (u/Asb)

100 24 0f 36.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 10:49 PM (5+sBB)

101
Repeal the Laws of Thermodynamics!

Now!

Posted by: Hello, I'm Math... and I am one heartless bitch(TM) at January 27, 2015 10:49 PM (bWFHa)

102
Hint hint: it's not the Scandi locals who are causing this.



Posted by: torquewrench
.
.
There was a report recently, not one rape for the year was an ethnic scandi.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 27, 2015 10:49 PM (NaeCR)

103 I liked Stern a lot until he went to satellite. Then once he could swear and be as raunchy as he wanted, I kinda lost interest.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 10:49 PM (0LHZx)

104 "rape perp"

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 27, 2015 10:50 PM (NaeCR)

105 83 If you breathe dihydrogen monoxide it will kill you.


Seriously.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 10:42 PM (MDgS



Spare a thought for us chemists, who endure equally moronic contentions all the time. A (liberal) friend of mine asked about the toxicity of "benzene" volatilizing from his dashboard from his car sitting in the sun. I explained that a) benzene boils at 80 C, while ethanol boils at 78 C, and thus he was in no more danger from any "benzene" in his many year old car than he'd be from a bottle of vodka he'd spilled the same number of years ago, and b) this particular neurosis is driven by seeing the name of the plasticizer (including in part the word "benzene," as in benzene-1,4-dioic acid, i.e., terephthalic acid, esters of which keep dashboard pliable). As to b), an essential amino acid is a benzene derivative known as "tyrosine."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 10:50 PM (oKE6c)

106 Tammy I could kiss you! I asked him if he respected this girl. He said not anyone. I aid then don't worry about the opinion of people you don't respect. I reminded him that she doesn't not represent the majority of people not even at the university. The assholes are just the loudest

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 10:50 PM (zOTsN)

107 Hmmm. Didn't know Maet was a ham operator.

Anyhow, the guys that made that video, with the drone, are from Slovenia.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 10:50 PM (vPh3W)

108 How many points o I get if I invoke white privilege?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 10:51 PM (5+sBB)

109 99: I got a good one. Very lucky she puts up with me. She prolly would filet fish, but, I don't fish anymore.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2015 10:51 PM (ucDmr)

110 Spare a thought for us chemists, who endure equally moronic contentions all the time. A (liberal) friend of mine asked about the toxicity of "benzene" volatilizing from his dashboard from his car sitting in the sun. I explained that a) benzene boils at 80 C, while ethanol boils at 78 C, and thus he was in no more danger from any "benzene" in his many year old car than he'd be from a bottle of vodka he'd spilled the same number of years ago, and b) this particular neurosis is driven by seeing the name of the plasticizer (including in part the word "benzene," as in benzene-1,4-dioic acid, i.e., terephthalic acid, esters of which keep dashboard pliable). As to b), an essential amino acid is a benzene derivative known as "tyrosine."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 10:50 PM (oKE6c)


So....you're saying we need a Department of Benzene because it's everywhere?

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 10:51 PM (pAlYe)

111 It wasn't so much the ability to cuss that made Stern less funny as being paid a gazillion dollars for about ten hours of live show a week. The best part of his show in the old days was just him riffing on random things. Much less of that now.

Posted by: Paul at January 27, 2015 10:51 PM (1vxz6)

112 Stern's attraction for me wasn't his juvenile sense of humor but his interviewing skills. He is a master at that. I also enjoyed the soap opera aspect of the show in the early days .

Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 27, 2015 10:52 PM (cNJvW)

113 Sons of Liberty ends exactly like 300!

Wow, that was pretty awesome!

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2015 10:53 PM (DDFkt)

114 98. This. I am listening to a stuck plow out in the street now Looks like a little Datsun truck they threw a big ass plow on. 10-15 years ago we got plowed by the big town trucks -sander/plow trucks. Now we have these litle tonka trucks trying to plow 27 inches of blowing drifting snow. Not working very efficiently.

Posted by: Uncle Joey B at January 27, 2015 10:53 PM (5qSUm)

115 Some years 100% of stranger rape in Norway is by mohomodans....

OK, so everybody got that shiite down.

/catching up

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 27, 2015 10:53 PM (NaeCR)

116 So....you're saying we need a Department of Benzene because it's everywhere?


Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 10:51 PM (pAlYe)


Hell, we need a Benzene Czar!
Seriously, though, it's really aggravating to deal with someone who's adamant about something like this, and doesn't know squat about it. It's like maintaining the chicken salad and chicken shit are pretty much interchangeable. Makes me feel like I wasted all those years learning the difference.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 10:54 PM (oKE6c)

117 Reading the eyes, how do the researchers assign a word to the image. So if we score high we agree with the researcher's conclusions?

Too many of the images had obviously wrong words to pick reducing the choices to one out of two. Two many of the images were ambiguous enough to fit the word the researches expected you to pick. About two or three had no word I would pick for the image.

It's subjective, and dependant on the test taker, not the images. It requires a good vocabulary and the way language is changing, word choices are changing. It requires that we all agree on the meaning of the word, and the meaning of the image and facial expression.

scored 31/36. . and I don't trust the experts. It's a mind game all the way down.

Posted by: Xylan le Kronlaist at January 27, 2015 10:54 PM (PKZ94)

118 109 99: I got a good one. Very lucky she puts up with me. She prolly would filet fish, but, I don't fish anymore.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2015

:-(
Bummer

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:54 PM (u/Asb)

119 Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 10:50 PM (zOTsN)

Awesome advice! Keep us posted. This is very disturbing to me.

Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 27, 2015 10:54 PM (Pauop)

120 The front page of a free, commuter "newspaper" from a liberal rag parent "newspaper" this morning (that I assume was printed at 2 or 3 a.m.) was treating the NE snowstorm as if it had actually happened and had directly disrupted traffic, air flights etc. instead of reporting the city, airport etc. had been shut down out of fear of the storm's possible effects. Dicks.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 10:54 PM (L6/+u)

121 I have also been in what I call a 'grayout' on US-127 returning from my parents old place Up North. The rain came down so hard I could not see anything beyond the wiper blades (and that took some effort to see those) so I pulled onto the shoulder and waited, hoping no one would run into me.

Obviously my hopes were answered; but I still have a lot of respect for storm warnings and plan my travels with those in mind.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 10:54 PM (g+akU)

122 I just try to avoid eating anything with chemicals or toxins.

Posted by: Progressive Trash Ruling Class at January 27, 2015 10:54 PM (ZPrif)

123 62
Kili, otherwise known as The Mountain of Shit.



SO many people trek it that both sides of all approaches are hip
deep in human shit. Which, of course, does not rapidly break down at the
higher levels.



Eco-fags are fighting the construction of bioactive pit shitters ('Doggie Doolies') because it would 'despoil the environment.'



Their solution is of course simply to ban trekking...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 10:37 PM (ASn1R)


Hire the locals to pack it out. It's a jobs program!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2015 10:54 PM (T1005)

124 We need another Department of Redundancy.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 10:54 PM (5+sBB)

125 93 About reading people 

When my kids were really little I told them I was a human lie detector. I would tell them to let me hold thier fore fingers and I could tell if they were lying or not. Worked everytime. Still does

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer
--------------------
And they didn't just fart on you?
I know I would have!

Posted by: shredded chi at January 27, 2015 10:55 PM (3uV3Z)

126 Jay: you did.

Welcome to the club.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 10:55 PM (ASn1R)

127
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 10:48 PM (g+akU)

Without going all George C. Scott playing Buck Turgidson here, when you see road crews in the Great White North running one after another in formation and plowing out lane by lane in a single pass, it is a thing of great beauty.

Posted by: Hello, I'm Math... and I am one heartless bitch(TM) at January 27, 2015 10:55 PM (bWFHa)

128 Sons of Liberty ends exactly like 300!

Wow, that was pretty awesome!

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2015 10:53 PM (DDFkt)


So... the miniseries was kinda like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTcVNuNX8yY

Posted by: The Hat of '76 at January 27, 2015 10:55 PM (0Ew3K)

129 Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 10:51 PM (5+sBB

White privilege or work ethic?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:56 PM (u/Asb)

130 Scored 25 with the eye test out of sheer luck. On almost all of them I was thinking it could be none of the above or all of the above.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at January 27, 2015 10:56 PM (zauWW)

131 I avoid empty calories. I only want real calories.
I also try to avoid food that has no nutrition.
Nutrition's important cause it has nutrients.

Posted by: Progressive Trash Ruling Class at January 27, 2015 10:56 PM (ZPrif)

132 And then satty radio didn't blow up like many thought it would 6-8 years ago or more. You just want somewhat mindless noise on the 15-30 minute ride to work or home? Why pay for it when it's free?

Out in sparsely populated areas it's nice but it's a small percentage of the population.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 10:56 PM (WkdDe)

133 There wasn't a link to back it up but I read a
comment once that claimed all of the stranger-on-stranger rape in Sweden
(i.e. don't know attacker; and contrasted with being raped by someone
known to you) was Moslem. Not too hard to believe.


Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 10:36 PM (L6/+u)

Yes, Bill Whittle mentioned this in one of his videos. The rape rate is due entirely to the Mohammedans.

Posted by: KG at January 27, 2015 10:56 PM (Vzxhp)

134 Question for The Horde,
I have towels on some radiators with clothes that shouldn't be in dryer.
It seems like home is warmer w/o towels & radiator is pumping full heat.

Is it better to keep things from covering radiator?

Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 10:56 PM (sj3Ax)

135 124 We need another Department of Redundancy.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 10:54 PM (5+sBB)



I think we already have a Bureau of Redundancy Department.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 10:56 PM (oKE6c)

136 Fen if you are here thanks for the article on how to cope with antisemetism. I'm going to send it to him

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 10:57 PM (zOTsN)

137 I've got one thing to say to those elephants in the Kilimanjaro picture.

"Mike, Mike, Mike. Guess what DAY it is!"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at January 27, 2015 10:57 PM (sSw7Z)

138 For best health you should eat your honey.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 10:57 PM (ASn1R)

139 Their solution is of course simply to ban trekking...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 10:37 PM (ASn1R)


Hire the locals to pack it out. It's a jobs program!
Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2015 10:5

Shovel ready. Someone call the JEF

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:57 PM (u/Asb)

140 Evening horde.

That's all I got right now.

Except Sam Adams is a ninja pirate viking SEAL.

Posted by: RWC Team Warthog at January 27, 2015 10:58 PM (zxCGA)

141 If I ask you difficult questions
If I make improper suggestions
Would you find that a risk to your health
And would you put me on the bookshelf
with the books
and the plants

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 27, 2015 10:58 PM (elbY7)

142 Hey everybody.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 27, 2015 10:58 PM (elbY7)

143 Kilimanjaro has always fascinated me. It basically holds the climates of every latitude on earth, with perhaps the exception of the extreme furthest north. Plus it is wonderfully photogenic.

Posted by: Art Cognomen, Chet's Attic-Dwelling Brother at January 27, 2015 10:58 PM (zfw24)

144 Watching Sons of Liberty for free.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 10:58 PM (5+sBB)

145 STEVE!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 10:59 PM (ASn1R)

146 Carol, best to keep radiators free of items

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 10:59 PM (u/Asb)

147 "And then satty radio didn't blow up like many thought it would 6-8 years ago or more. You just want somewhat mindless noise on the 15-30 minute ride to work or home? Why pay for it when it's free? "

Gotta disagree with you there. With free radio you get classic rock and its nonstop rotation of the same ten damned songs (I missed the ONT discussion last night), along with commercials every 20 minutes. With satellite you can actually hear a variety of different stuff, and no commercials. It's worth it.

Posted by: Paul at January 27, 2015 10:59 PM (1vxz6)

148 Nutrition's important cause it has nutrients.

What about electrolytes?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2015 11:00 PM (W5DcG)

149 My kid is at Lund University right now, adjacent to Mälmo (about 12 miles). He can pass for Swedish if he doesn't talk, We gave him good advice and warnings about limiting visits and making most of those with groups, but it still makes me nervous. And Lund gets its own visitors. Over Christmas ( when students were mostly away on holiday) disgruntled youth threw rocks into plate glass windows the Coop Konsum grocery store behind his dorm, while employees were working inside. Very unsettling for all.

Posted by: Sarahw at January 27, 2015 11:00 PM (Lbv/k)

150 scored 31/36. . and I don't trust the experts. It's a mind game all the way down.
Posted by: Xylan le Kronlaist at January 27, 2015 10:54 PM (PKZ94)


Actually Ekman showed decades ago that there is a set of facial expressions that are universally understood by human all over the world with the same meanings and are very likely hard-wired into our brains. So I'm assuming they're using photo samples from the Ekman set for the eyes and associated mood.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 11:00 PM (pAlYe)

151 I got 29 on the test. I found the women's expressions much more difficult to judge than the men's.

Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 11:01 PM (MYCIw)

152
144 Watching Sons of Liberty for free.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 10:58 PM (5+sBB)

The Revolutionary's win.




Shit...Spoiler Alert!

Posted by: RWC Team Warthog at January 27, 2015 11:01 PM (zxCGA)

153 And if having more women made a project go better...

Then it seems that the whole of human history is somehow wrong...

Because they would have taken over long ago...

Their findings also contradict 5000 years of Military history... which is the only true Darwinian culture there is (you literally have to win to survive).



Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 11:01 PM (qh617)

154 Posted by: Sarahw at January 27, 2015 11:00 PM (Lbv/k)


Jesus.

Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 27, 2015 11:01 PM (Pauop)

155 @128

It was a very much like that.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2015 11:02 PM (DDFkt)

156 My older brother who will be 66 in March, along with my newer roommate (here on 2nd floor) took care of 90% of the snow.

I have to go out tomorrow & have notes from Thursday thread on why all my cars since 1986 fog & ice up.

I'm good for me.

Thank you all for concern.

Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 11:03 PM (sj3Ax)

157 Did someone mention "Sons of Liberty"??

I admit, around Thanksgiving I got myself an early present at Costco: the blu-ray set of HBO's miniseries "John Adams."

Keep hearing I won't be able to stop watching once I start...

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 27, 2015 11:03 PM (elbY7)

158 Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 10:56 PM (sj3Ax)

Yes, the heat transfer coefficient of metal to air... ie the speed at which heat energy transfers...

is greater than for metal, to cloth, to air...

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 11:04 PM (qh617)

159 29/36

A few of the options had two answers so close to each other I had to guess. Guess I didn't guess so good.

Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 11:04 PM (e+1S5)

160 @144

Free?

Is it being beamed directly into your mind?

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2015 11:04 PM (DDFkt)

161 John Adams miniseries is wonderful

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 11:04 PM (zOTsN)

162 Keep hearing I won't be able to stop watching once I start...
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 27, 2015 11:03 PM (elbY7

You're here. Guess it's still collecting dust

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 11:04 PM (u/Asb)

163 " Marine Sharpshooter Explains Why American Snipers Are Not Cowards

And by the same Michael Moore logic wouldn't that make every single pilot or artillery crew also cowards? If you give the enemy a fair shot in wartime, you're not doing it right."

Someone needs to explain to these entertainment industry dumbasses, like Michael Moore, Maher, etc. that there's a difference between fighting a duel, and trying to win a war. Oh, and by Moore's standards some of our forefathers who used guerrilla tactics against the British, would have been cowards.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 27, 2015 11:04 PM (N2hPc)

164 Posted by: qdpsteve at January 27, 2015 11:03 PM (elbY7)

Haven't watched Adams but SoL is pretty damn good.

Posted by: RWC Team Warthog at January 27, 2015 11:05 PM (zxCGA)

165 > This, briefly, is that the public can be misinformed about absolute statistics, but we can still change our strength of feeling in an appropriate way.


OH FOR FFS!! Enough of the ego-statistical phrased bullshit.

I, as one of THE PUBLIC wants to lynch these bastards abusing their elected powers. We'll give'm a fair trial first, of course.

Posted by: enough already at January 27, 2015 11:05 PM (07uGM)

166 Free?

Is it being beamed directly into your mind?

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2015 11:04 PM (DDFkt)


Not with these tin-foil hats on!

Posted by: Ron Paul rEVOLution Cultists at January 27, 2015 11:05 PM (0Ew3K)

167 "Gotta disagree with you there."


No disagreement. Want real classic rock....or country.......or folk. You a satellite customer. Want something in the background? You're probably not paying for it.

I have an HD radio now. Extra channels you didn't know were even there. It's great when around a population center. When I get 100 miles outta town I wish I had satty. Stations dry up quick.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:05 PM (WkdDe)

168 MH, haven't started it yet, true.

Still working through my Bond box set. ;-)
I'm up to "Diamonds are Forever."

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 27, 2015 11:05 PM (elbY7)

169 My older brother, who is (?) in legal terms wants to move to Arizona. I want to move to Texas or NC.

Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 11:05 PM (sj3Ax)

170 >>>So I'm assuming they're using photo samples from the Ekman set for the eyes and associated mood.

The methodology said that the images were from British magazines from the 90s.

Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 11:06 PM (e+1S5)

171 You simply can't cover Michele Obama's ugly, you can only hope to contain it.

Posted by: Garrett at January 27, 2015 11:06 PM (bsFjT)

172 I wonder what the facial expression linked in my sock means?

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 11:06 PM (L6/+u)

173 Any laws in your state against nasal sodomy?

Asking for a friend...

Posted by: Snot Fetishist at January 27, 2015 11:06 PM (ASn1R)

174
Scored 25 with the eye test out of sheer luck.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget



Sheer random luck would be 9. From googling a bit, the average is 26 with an apparent SD of 3.

Kinda surprised a social skill averages so high. I mean, it should, but everyone seems so -- odd -- nowadays.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 27, 2015 11:06 PM (kdS6q)

175 Did someone visit Saudi Arabia to shop the fine wares at Omar the tentmaker?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 11:06 PM (+eQyZ)

176 "The methodology said that the images were from British magazines from the 90s."

That's why the women were all so hard to read. They all had that damn model stare that's vaguely sexual while simultaneously pissed off.

Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 11:07 PM (MYCIw)

177 Posted by: Uncle Joey B at January 27, 2015 10:53 PM (5qSUm)


Back then in Gaylord (the smallest town I lived in) I had the most urban living experience. I had an apartment above shops across the street from the courthouse. In the early morning hours of winter I would hear the *beeps* from the little plows clearing the downtown sidewalks and the front-end loaders filling the dump trucks that took the snow away to the county fairgrounds. All I know is even those man-made Matterhorns of snow were gone by summer.


*beep*
(grumble, look out the window)
*beep*
"Oh. Civilization."
*beep*
(go back to bed, turn back over, commune with St. Mattress and the blessed pillows.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 11:07 PM (g+akU)

178 Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 11:01 PM (qh617)

The older I get, the more of a Male Chauvinist Pig I become.

There is no longer any doubt in my mind that women were oppressed and subjugated down through history for their own protection, as well as for the good of society overall.


Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 27, 2015 11:07 PM (Pauop)

179 Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 11:00 PM

Say the same thing about reading an animal expression? Friendly dog, hostile dog, threatening carnivore. I had a face to face encounter with a Bison in Yellowstone, and the feeling of communications was as clear to me as if the animal had spoken.

Saw the same thing between rodeo clowns and the bull they wanted to leave the area.

Posted by: Xylan le Kronlaist at January 27, 2015 11:07 PM (PKZ94)

180 Any laws in your state against nasal sodomy?

You mean brown-nosing? If it's against the law, everyone in Hollywood is going to jail.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 27, 2015 11:07 PM (elbY7)

181 170 >>>So I'm assuming they're using photo samples from the Ekman set for the eyes and associated mood.
The methodology said that the images were from British magazines from the 90s.
Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 11:06 PM (e+1S5)


Ah ok. But if people can agree on the moods when seeing the whole face (and generally they can), the question is how many can determine the mood just from the eyes.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 11:08 PM (pAlYe)

182 134
Question for The Horde,

I have towels on some radiators with clothes that shouldn't be in dryer.

It seems like home is warmer w/o towels radiator is pumping full heat.



Is it better to keep things from covering radiator?



Thank you.



Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 10:56 PM (sj3Ax)


That would be correct. In fact, for maximal efficiency in heating the parts of your home not directly adjacent to or above your radiators, you could run a small fan to blow on 'em.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2015 11:08 PM (T1005)

183 Is it being beamed directly into your mind?
Don't be stupid. It comes in through my mercury fillings. Duh!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 11:08 PM (L6/+u)

184 That facial expression means either "I'm sharting" or "Even with all the other women covered up, he won't look at me"


Actually, she is squinting from the sun. Needs sunglasses. Wonder why she didn't wear some

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 11:08 PM (zOTsN)

185 Wait till Michael Moore finds out that the SCOAMF personally signs off on the daily drone strikes of ISIS/ISIL/AlQAIDA

I'm sure he'll have something pithy to say about that.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2015 11:08 PM (DDFkt)

186 "Any laws in your state against nasal sodomy?"


How does that even fcukin' happen?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:08 PM (WkdDe)

187 172: One of those dudes just unloaded in his robe.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2015 11:09 PM (ucDmr)

188 From an earlier thread.

Pennsylvania's new "physician general" is a tranny

http://tinyurl.com/o6oaek4

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2015 11:09 PM (0Ew3K)

189 172 I wonder what the facial expression linked in my sock means?
Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 11:06 PM (L6/+u)

I believe I just sharted in my undapantz

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 11:09 PM (u/Asb)

190 About the 'Eyes test'...., it seems that the formulators of the test have NO idea what the people (eyes) were actually feeling. That being the case, what possible validity can it have? Did I miss something, or is the score based on consensus? How were these expressions 'rated'? Took a quick look around, but could not find out what is the basis for the assumed emotions.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 11:10 PM (vPh3W)

191 We could always resume the discussion of Chris Pratt as the new Indiana Jones.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 11:10 PM (+eQyZ)

192 Ive set up many dipole antennas in the bush using a canteen tied to end of rope and flinging it as hard as possible to get a high branch. Fun days, those.

Posted by: fastfreefall at January 27, 2015 11:10 PM (pqOzY)

193 Fifty years ago, there was less interest in semi-autos than there is now. However, there was a much higher percentage of the adult population trained in their use, whether they wanted to be or not.

Participation in shooting sports was higher, especially organized target shooting.
There were more than 50 high school rifle teams in New York City alone. Today there are the Fong sisters. As far as I know, NYC has no other defenses.

Also, since the oldest of the post-war generation were still competing as juniors, the number of competitors who were hot-war combat veterans was overwhelming.

And yet, support for gun control was about twice what it is today. The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 27, 2015 11:10 PM (xq1UY)

194 I got 32 out of 36.

I basically just answered on first impulse rather than thinking about it.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 11:11 PM (MDgS8)

195 pubic hair hunh?


Posted by: bill cosby at January 27, 2015 11:11 PM (N21UI)

196 Cthulhu,
I'm glad I took towel off radiator in my living & bathroom.

Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 11:11 PM (sj3Ax)

197 So the Wachowskis have a new flick coming out in February, "Jupiter Ascending." Plot: it turns out that after living in relative poverty all her life, Mila Kunis turns out to be the actual queen of all humanity in the Universe.

So it's a documentary then. Cool.
;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 27, 2015 11:11 PM (elbY7)

198 Meanwhile, the Pope is hosting a tranny

http://tinyurl.com/k9raeh5

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2015 11:11 PM (0Ew3K)

199 Say the same thing about reading an animal expression? Friendly dog, hostile dog, threatening carnivore. I had a face to face encounter with a Bison in Yellowstone, and the feeling of communications was as clear to me as if the animal had spoken.
Saw the same thing between rodeo clowns and the bull they wanted to leave the area.
Posted by: Xylan le Kronlaist at January 27, 2015 11:07 PM (PKZ94)


Yeah I've always been surprised that are people who are simply blind to animal body language and get surprised when the animal reacts in the way that it was signaling it was going to for at least 15-20 seconds.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 11:12 PM (pAlYe)

200 Wait till Michael Moore finds out that the SCOAMF personally signs off on the daily drone strikes of ISIS/ISIL/AlQAIDA I'm sure he'll have something pithy to say about that.

No, he'll just stuff it with another whole box of HoHos.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 27, 2015 11:12 PM (elbY7)

201 The older I get, the more of a Male Chauvinist Pig I become.



There is no longer any doubt in my mind that women were oppressed
and subjugated down through history for their own protection, as well as
for the good of society overall.







Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 27, 2015 11:07 PM (Pauop)


Here's a thought that I'd never express in almost any other venue: why would anyone expect interchangeability between the genders of a sexually dimorphic species? Do male and female seahorses worry about "equality," i.e., interchangeability? Male and female black widow spiders? Male and female lions? Male and female ... anythings?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 11:13 PM (oKE6c)

202 Is it better to keep things from covering radiator?

Thank you.
Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 10:56 PM (sj3Ax)
---------------------

Carol - The radiators are designed to allow air to circulate through them via convection. When you cover them, then the convection ceases, thus reducing circulation of heated air through the house.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 11:13 PM (vPh3W)

203 Fluffly,
How are you?
Were you in blizzard path that hit or were you lucky to be out of it?

Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 11:13 PM (sj3Ax)

204 The correct answer was Depends.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 11:13 PM (5+sBB)

205 >>>Ah ok. But if people can agree on the moods when seeing the whole face (and generally they can), the question is how many can determine the mood just from the eyes.

An average score of better than 66% suggests that yes, they can. I know it's just a silly internet quiz thingy, but I find it fascinating.

I have a colleague, senior to me, who just can't read people. He is good a his job in a technical sense, but when we're talking clients, at least once per meeting, usually much more, I have to jump in and redirect the conversation.

Either because he's answering a question that wasn't asked, or because the client is bored as shit and he keeps droning on about [technical work related bullshit]. It's maddening, and he's been in this business since I was in short pants.

Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 11:13 PM (e+1S5)

206 The Marine article defending snipers kind of threw the people who break things under the bus.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 27, 2015 11:13 PM (cNJvW)

207 I would not go to see Jupiter Ascending since it apparently took them a year to fix the film. And the plot is basically the one from Men in Black 3.

Titanic of a flop? The new Hindenburg of cinema disasters?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 11:13 PM (+eQyZ)

208 the question is how many can determine the mood just from the eyes.
Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 11:08 PM (pAlYe)

I work almost every time !!

Posted by: fuck me eyes at January 27, 2015 11:14 PM (N21UI)

209 Yeah I've always been surprised that are people who are simply blind to animal body language and get surprised when the animal reacts in the way that it was signaling it was going to for at least 15-20 seconds.
Posted by: Maetenloch
-------------------

Cat owners know better.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 11:14 PM (vPh3W)

210 That blue & white shift/robe thing Mooch is wearing isn't bad really. It would look nice on a woman. Or a tent pole.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:14 PM (ASn1R)

211 Old Husband: "This house is falling apart!! There's smelly moisture and icky debris everywhere!!!"

Old Wife: "Your Depends fell off."

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 27, 2015 11:14 PM (elbY7)

212 Yeah I've always been surprised that are people who are simply blind to animal body language and get surprised when the animal reacts in the way that it was signaling it was going to for at least 15-20 seconds.
Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 11:12

Dan Akyroyd SNL skit of the author who wrote the boo Maimed. Don't let a grizzly bear take a marshmallow from your mouth

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 11:14 PM (u/Asb)

213 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 11:10 PM (vPh3W)

Yes, the correct answer is whatever they say it is.... and if you answer differently, and have a different opinion, you are both wrong, and abnormal.

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 11:14 PM (qh617)

214 Anna, true. Have read it's being released now because... well... it's supposedly a hot greasy mess of a flick.

I love MK, but let's admit it: she's not choosy about her roles. Call her "Paycheck" Mila. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 27, 2015 11:15 PM (elbY7)

215 Ah ok. But if people can agree on the moods when seeing the whole face
(and generally they can), the question is how many can determine the
mood just from the eyes.
.
.
Can yo read a burka?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 27, 2015 11:16 PM (NaeCR)

216 I found the women's eyes to be easy to read.

Or so I thought. I didn't look at which ones I got wrong.

It was the older eyes that were hardest to fathom.

And for some reason all the older eyes were men's eyes.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 11:16 PM (MDgS8)

217 It's maddening, and he's been in this business since I was in short pants.
Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 11:13 PM (e+1S5)


A long time ago I stumbled upon the fact that people skills are kinda important and will get you farther than almost any other skill most of the time


Posted by: # key at January 27, 2015 11:16 PM (N21UI)

218 And James Cameron is going to make two Avatard sequels instead of Gunm: Battle Angel Alita.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 11:17 PM (+eQyZ)

219
207 I would not go to see Jupiter Ascending since it apparently took them a year to fix the film. And the plot is basically the one from Men in Black 3.Titanic of a flop? The new Hindenburg of cinema disasters?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 11:13 PM (+eQyZ)


End of January beginning of February film Hardcore bomb. So awful at an attempt at a summer blockbuster that they couldn't even release it at the summer blockbuster fail time of just before Labor Day.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2015 11:17 PM (zt+N6)

220 "Uranus Rising" it even worse.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:17 PM (WkdDe)

221 You could never do that test in hollywood cause the eyes can't move. See Bruce Jenner

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 11:18 PM (zOTsN)

222 Saw one outrageous flaw on Sons of Liberty. This is for us gunny types.

Scene where they had a camera right up against a rack of muskets, that were being "grabbed in sequence" by the Patriots.

Trapdoor Springfields, in the white. Unmistakably so. If someone DVRd the show, it those sequences and perhaps capture a frame of the scene in question?

Was about a one or two second cut, so that's what, about 30 to 60 good frames to choose from.

Bet this'll show up out there in the gunosphere, but hey, you read it here first!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 27, 2015 11:18 PM (RzZOc)

223 MK isn't choosy period. How long was she with Heroin Kevin for jeepers sake?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:18 PM (ASn1R)

224 An average score of better than 66% suggests that yes, they can. I know it's just a silly internet quiz thingy, but I find it fascinating.

No I think it's a real area of research. There's clearly a variation in people's ability to sense other people's mood and I don't think it's based on ESP. :-)

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 27, 2015 11:18 PM (pAlYe)

225 Wait? So Muslims rape women? That's not peaceful at all.

Posted by: FDR's Television at January 27, 2015 11:18 PM (81IdR)

226
209 Yeah I've always been surprised that are people who are simply blind to animal body language and get surprised when the animal reacts in the way that it was signaling it was going to for at least 15-20 seconds. Posted by: Maetenloch ------------------- Cat owners know better.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 11:14 PM (vPh3W)


As soon as I figure out how, I will kill you in your sleep.

Posted by: All cats, all the time at January 27, 2015 11:18 PM (zt+N6)

227 BTW, Weasel Zippers also has a salient fact omitted by Charles Blow from his account and Twitter rage about his son being held at gunpoint by the Yale campus police searching for a robbery suspect --- the cop was black too.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 11:19 PM (L6/+u)

228 Ive set up many dipole antennas in the bush using a canteen tied to end of rope and flinging it as hard as possible to get a high branch. Fun days, those.
Posted by: fastfreefall
-------------------

I still use a lanyard of weedeater cord, with a 1 lb. lead weight to put up field antennas. I feel like David with his sling.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 11:19 PM (vPh3W)

229 OG, you mean Macauley Culkin? She was with him for quite a while.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 27, 2015 11:19 PM (elbY7)

230 What a bunch of microaggressive cocksuckers!

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 27, 2015 11:19 PM (lG2E3)

231 DC. They guy is technically a wiz but no good at reading people? Could be an Aspie

Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 11:19 PM (zOTsN)

232 Do male and female seahorses worry about "equality," i.e., interchangeability? Male and female black widow spiders? Male and female lions? Male and female ... anythings?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 11:13 PM (oKE6c)


you're a h8tr and you know it clap your hands

* *

Posted by: Mmary Clogennnstein from Vermont at January 27, 2015 11:19 PM (N21UI)

233 Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 11:13 PM (oKE6c)

Annnddd.... what is REALLY amusing is that those who want men and women to be identical... are all darwinists...

And if you are a Darwinist... then...

Its evolution that made us different, thus meaning that the differences between men and women have an evolutional advantage to survival of the species...

thus trying to MAKE us the same... is against Race survival...

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 11:19 PM (qh617)

234 >>>A long time ago I stumbled upon the fact that people skills are kinda important and will get you farther than almost any other skill most of the time

I don't know about that. This one time, I dated this crazy chick for like 6 months. And she wasn't even that hot. And she was generally not what you'd call a people-person, fairly unpleasant to be around. But she did do this one thing....well, I guess that it was a people skill, of sorts.

Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 11:20 PM (e+1S5)

235 Uranus Rising?

Sounds intriguing.

Posted by: Steve Croft at January 27, 2015 11:20 PM (bsFjT)

236 Salesmanship. I always feel like I'm being manipulated, and I'm so resolute in refusing to manipulate people that I can't sell five dollar bills for three bucks. People think they're counterfeit.

It makes it impossible for me to persuade or convince anyone of anything. In retaliation, I refuse to accept anything anyone else tells me. Fair is fair.

Posted by: Xylan le Kronlaist at January 27, 2015 11:20 PM (PKZ94)

237 So just admit it DC in River City, you dated Sandra Flook...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 11:20 PM (+eQyZ)

238 "Without going all George C. Scott playing Buck Turgidson here, when you see road crews in the Great White North running one after another in formation and plowing out lane by lane in a single pass, it is a thing of great beauty."


It is. and I want to be behind them when they do, mbut not too close. Those salt spreaders deploy wicked fast and I do not like Sammy* getting hit like that.


*Sammy the Sebring convertible. She is a 2006 and looks very good even if the new neighbor peeled her open like a can of tuna with the back bumper of the rental truck two years ago. Thanks to insurance that was all repaired (and since I was legally parked I paid nothing...okay, I paid to have the rocker panel rust I had just found dealt with, but I got a deal because: (a) Sammy was in the shop already; and (b) they had to paint anyhow.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 11:21 PM (g+akU)

239 Ya, Macocky Cocaine, that guy.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:21 PM (ASn1R)

240 I got 26 but all those chicks eyes wanted me, I could tell

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 27, 2015 11:22 PM (dULJN)

241 Short, readable essay on Apollo 1. The anniversary of the fire is today.

http://tinyurl.com/kzqbd77

Posted by: Filly at January 27, 2015 11:22 PM (ZWmKk)

242
I still can't get over Scott Brown's last campaign.
He went around telling Republicans that he's only gonna agree with them most of the time. He said this for the benefit of the independents.

It never occurred to Scott that it might make Republicans feel a bit slighted, used, and perhaps under-represented. Stupid, stupid, campaign.

Christie will do the same thing, nationally, if he runs. And he'll be crushed in the primaries just like Huntsman was in 2012.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 27, 2015 11:22 PM (q19mL)

243 >>A long time ago I stumbled upon the fact that people skills are kinda important and will get you farther than almost any other skill most of the time


Yep.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 11:23 PM (g1DWB)

244 "Sounds intriguing."



And there's champagne. At the end.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:23 PM (WkdDe)

245 And James Cameron is going to make two Avatard sequels instead of Gunm: Battle Angel Alita.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 11:17 PM (+eQyZ)


At this point, I'm glad that overbearing crapweasel is putting off destroying that manga...

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at January 27, 2015 11:23 PM (0Ew3K)

246 I am not a Social Darwinist.

I am a Biological Spencerist.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:23 PM (ASn1R)

247 Getting a wire antenna up into the tree. Use a slingshot, and a lead weight. Or bow an arrow works really well. Shoot monofilament line over the top and pull up either the wire or a rope and then the wire.

Posted by: Xylan le Kronlaist at January 27, 2015 11:23 PM (PKZ94)

248 Yeah I felt the wanting and lusting from the chicks eyes too.

But some were flirtatious, others curious, some impatient.....

But all wanting....wanting....

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 11:23 PM (MDgS8)

249
I still use a lanyard of weedeater cord, with a 1 lb. lead weight to put up field antennas.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 11:19 PM (vPh3W)


I never realized there were this many other hams hanging out here!

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 27, 2015 11:24 PM (aNzsD)

250 >>>So just admit it DC in River City, you dated Sandra Flook...

Heh. Not that I'm aware of, but I did spend a good chunk of my early twenties in a bit of a fog. Still, I did maintain *some* standards.

Very, very low standards round about aught three or so, but still, standards.

Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 11:24 PM (e+1S5)

251
231 DC. They guy is technically a wiz but no good at reading people? Could be an Aspie
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 11:19 PM (zOTsN)


Or he's an engineer.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2015 11:24 PM (zt+N6)

252 'And there's champagne. At the end. '

No, IN the end...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:24 PM (ASn1R)

253 I scored 31 on the test, which surprises me. I tend to not 'tune in" very well to other people. I'm the type that when I'm introduced to someone there's a better than average chance I won't remember their name.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 27, 2015 11:25 PM (N2hPc)

254 " long time ago I stumbled upon the fact that people skills are kinda
important and will get you farther than almost any other skill most of
the time
"


Heh.

I speak in the Queen's Proper English. Am I "educated" or not?



Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:25 PM (WkdDe)

255 MisHum,
What is temperature in WI? Now it's 11 & I washed towels & they are in dryer & unless I get them out as soon as dry from back hall dryer they will freeze.

I should give older brother $ to use his dryer in basement.

Extra insulation & steel door, new windows may have helped but that effing hall is almost as cold as outside.

New windows in 2011 & 2013-2014 have screens but no old fashioned storm windows. There is lots of snow between them.

Time to get towels!!'

Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 11:25 PM (sj3Ax)

256 Christie will do the same thing, nationally, if he runs. And he'll be crushed in the primaries just like Huntsman was in 2012.
Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 27, 2015 11

Crushed? I want to see that machinery

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 11:25 PM (u/Asb)

257 251
231 DC. They guy is technically a wiz but no good at reading people? Could be an Aspie
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 11:19 PM (zOTsN)

Or he's an engineer.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2015 11:24 PM (zt+N6)



On another forum someone once asked rhetorically whatever became of Aspies.

I replied that he'd obviously never set foot in a math, science, or engineering department.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 11:26 PM (oKE6c)

258 186 "Any laws in your state against nasal sodomy?"


How does that even fcukin' happen?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:08 PM (WkdDe)

Teeny, tiny dicks?

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 27, 2015 11:26 PM (N2hPc)

259 Mid teens here Carol.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 11:26 PM (u/Asb)

260 I got 26 on that eye test.
Average baby!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 11:27 PM (0LHZx)

261 257 -- Jay


hah...

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 11:27 PM (MDgS8)

262 "No, IN the end..."


That's what I meant. Too. That sweet chocolate bottom.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:27 PM (WkdDe)

263 , fairly unpleasant to be around. But she did do this one thing....well, I guess that it was a people skill, of sorts.
Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 11:20 PM (e+1S5)

youth+hormones+alcohol+the hornies....

that there is some powerful chemistry, I graduated 1st in my class at the school of hard knocks in that one

Posted by: # key at January 27, 2015 11:27 PM (N21UI)

264 #222 A friend told me in the Sharpe series they used percussion-cap Brunswick rifles instead of true Baker rifle reproductions to avoid the misfire rate common with flintlocks. I don't know if they did anything similar for the musket-armed infantry in the series.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2015 11:27 PM (L6/+u)

265 What if you got every response wrong?

Does that mean you're an alien or something?

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 11:28 PM (MDgS8)

266 I got 33 out of 36 on the eyes test.

wonder which ones I missed...

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 27, 2015 11:28 PM (OsWis)

267 I got 0/36 on that test.

Then I realized I was looking at the page on Monkey Orchids...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:28 PM (ASn1R)

268
Car is shoveled out and ready to go for the morning.

Wonder what traffic will be like...

People will have to work, naturally. And the roads will be narrow. Might be a horror show in the morning.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 27, 2015 11:29 PM (q19mL)

269 >>>251
231 DC. They guy is technically a wiz but no good at reading people? Could be an Aspie
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 27, 2015 11:19 PM (zOTsN)

Or he's an engineer.


I actually snorted. I didn't know you could invest wine through your nose. Now I do.

I always learn shit on the ONT. Some of it useful, some of it horrifying.

Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 11:29 PM (e+1S5)

270 Poor, poor Michelle. Not smart enough to stay at the Taj Mahal and make sammiches for her daughters, nor proud enough of her country to tell the Saudis how the USA rolls.

#bringbackourinfidelwomen

Posted by: Fritz at January 27, 2015 11:29 PM (dVmLD)

271 >>>Mid teens here



I'll have what he's having.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at January 27, 2015 11:29 PM (bsFjT)

272 I know TPH, glad he is not 'working on it' and thus it is safe. Now if they would just give up on Ghost in the Shell.

and what did I just stumble across??
http://youtu.be/4-0hkRurDMs

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 11:29 PM (+eQyZ)

273 Bubble Butt, the mini-series...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:29 PM (ASn1R)

274 > When you cover them, then the convection ceases, thus reducing circulation of heated air through the house.

Point of order! Priorities for mittens and socks of those doing the shoveling of unprecedented global warming snowfall, in their lifetimes.

Otherwise, string up some interior clotheslines, and let the wet garments bask in the heat from a slight distance.

Posted by: enough already at January 27, 2015 11:30 PM (07uGM)

275 >>In retaliation, I refuse to accept anything anyone else tells me. Fair is fair.
Posted by: Xylan le Kronlaist at January 27, 2015 11:20 PM (PKZ94)



that is not how people skillz generally work



and selling someone something they truely need IS helping them

Posted by: # key at January 27, 2015 11:30 PM (N21UI)

276 A long time ago I stumbled upon the fact that people skills are kinda important and will get you farther than almost any other skill most of the time
---------------------

True. But as one grows older, one tends to become less patient, and less concerned with what other people think. I feel curmudgeoness creeping up on me. Think Jeff Dunham's 'Walter'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 11:30 PM (l1zOH)

277 I don't think my bookie has heard the porcupine thing yet, I just laid a cool grand on the Giants to win the Super Bowl and got fantastic odds!

Posted by: Boone at January 27, 2015 11:30 PM (eaLl1)

278 265 What if you got every response wrong?

Does that mean you're an alien or something?

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 11:28 PM (MDgS



It means you're State Department material. At least in this Administration.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 11:30 PM (oKE6c)

279 I still can't get over Scott Brown's last campaign.
He went around telling Republicans that he's only gonna agree with them most of the time. He said this for the benefit of the independents.

It never occurred to Scott that it might make Republicans feel a bit slighted, used, and perhaps under-represented. Stupid, stupid, campaign.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 27, 2015 11:22 PM (q19mL)

______________

He forgot why he won in the first place.....he explicitly campaigned to be the 41st vote against Obamacare. Doing that got him a 7% win. Running as Dem-Lite, got him a 7% loss.

Hmmmm......

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 11:30 PM (0LHZx)

280 Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 10:56 PM (sj3Ax)


Back in the day when I did not have a dryer* I hung everything on lines in the basement, and shirts/sweaters I placed on hanger on a bar to dry.

Now, with a dryer, I just hang sweaters and sweatshirts to dry.


*I did that for a couple of years when I had to take my clothes to a Laundromat. Just washed them, folded them wet, and brought them home to hang on the lines in the basement of that two-flat in east Dearborn.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 11:31 PM (g+akU)

281 Christie will do the same thing, nationally, if he runs. And he'll be crushed in the primaries just like Huntsman was in 2012.

Crushed? I want to see that machinery


Visualizing a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2015 11:31 PM (W5DcG)

282 "
I got 0/36 on that test.
"


God, you are dumb. Those aren't real monkeys.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:31 PM (WkdDe)

283 A long time ago I stumbled upon the fact that people skills are kinda
important and will get you farther than almost any other skill most of
the time



People skills will let you manipulate people who have skills, except those that know Dunning-Kruger when they see it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 27, 2015 11:31 PM (NaeCR)

284 Bubble Butt, the mini-series....


Is that a live cam following Kim Kardashians plastic ass around all day?

Like, just her ass and nothing else.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 11:31 PM (MDgS8)

285 Angie on Movieholics played this tonight, thought you guys would like it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQsol7pgc-c

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at January 27, 2015 11:31 PM (zauWW)

286 But as one grows older, one tends to become less
patient, and less concerned with what other people think. I feel
curmudgeoness creeping up on me. Think Jeff Dunham's 'Walter'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 11:30 PM (l1zOH)/i]

You've been talking about me with my wife, haven't you?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 11:32 PM (oKE6c)

287 I know TPH, glad he is not 'working on it' and thus it is safe. Now if they would just give up on Ghost in the Shell.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 11:29 PM (+eQyZ)


But casting Scarlet Johansson really pissed off the "Race Bending" crowd and other SJWs.

So no matter how bad the movie is, it has already been worth it.

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at January 27, 2015 11:32 PM (0Ew3K)

288 Is that a live cam following Kim Kardashians plastic ass around all day?



Like, just her ass and nothing else.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 11:31 PM (MDgS

Wide-angle lens.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 11:32 PM (oKE6c)

289 I KNOW they aren't real monkeys, they just call them that because they look like orchid weasels...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:33 PM (ASn1R)

290 Invest, ingest whatever. I'd like to blame auto cucumber, but that one was all me.

>>>And there's champagne. At the end. '
No, IN the end...

Ok, this is still bothering me.

Was the champagne consumed OFF of her ass, or OUT of her ass?

Because that's the difference between lightning and a lightning bug.

No, I never read the original article. Because, moron.

Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 11:33 PM (e+1S5)

291 BRB, time for the lesbian bears + human lesbian show...

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at January 27, 2015 11:34 PM (0Ew3K)

292 All I know is I scored "Red Shirt" on the Star Trek test.


Cause red shirts rock, bitches.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 11:34 PM (MDgS8)

293 Watched all three parts of 'Sons of Liberty'.

What I liked about it, is the way they portrayed these guys as courageous fighters, who were up against very scary odds.
Just regular people, who were pushed too far by British tyranny and brutality...and stood up to it.

I mean, hey...it's the History Channel.
I didn't know what to expect.

At least they didn't show Ancient Aliens helping the colonists to win.

Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 11:34 PM (hX3bN)

294 198 Meanwhile, the Pope is hosting a tranny

http://tinyurl.com/k9raeh5
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2015 11:11 PM (0Ew3K)

This guy is trying way to hard to take the "tolerant " view of every, single issue. There's something terribly insincere about that, like Jane Fonda brainlessly spouting every leftwing cliche out there. I saw her give a speech in about '71. All the woman did was spout leftwing slogans. I'm getting the same vibe from our first commie Hispanic pope. Does he have a team of leftwing public relations people coming up with this shit?

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 27, 2015 11:34 PM (N2hPc)

295 286 But as one grows older, one tends to become less
patient, and less concerned with what other people think. I feel
curmudgeoness creeping up on me. Think Jeff Dunham's 'Walter'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 11:30 PM (l1zOH)/i]

You've been talking about me with my wife, haven't you?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 11:32 PM (oKE6c)

The filter between my brain and mouth has disappeared

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 11:34 PM (u/Asb)

296
279 I still can't get over Scott Brown's last campaign. He went around telling Republicans that he's only gonna agree with them most of the time. He said this for the benefit of the independents. It never occurred to Scott that it might make Republicans feel a bit slighted, used, and perhaps under-represented. Stupid, stupid, campaign. Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 27, 2015 11:22 PM (q19mL) ______________ He forgot why he won in the first place.....he explicitly campaigned to be the 41st vote against Obamacare. Doing that got him a 7% win. Running as Dem-Lite, got him a 7% loss. Hmmmm......
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 27, 2015 11:30 PM (0LHZx)


And the governor's race in Massachusetts demonstrated that there is a good chance it wasn't about Scott Brown in any meaningful way that resulted in him winning that Senate seat. Its the Coakley is the absolute worst democrat candidate in the state to have ever run foroffice. After the R running against her became governor that should end his golden boy status as the template for Republicans to win in New England.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2015 11:34 PM (zt+N6)

297
Or he's an engineer.


I'll post this link to Dilbert cartoon again : http://tinyurl.com/or4lrvx

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 11:35 PM (l1zOH)

298 293,

Or nazis.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 27, 2015 11:35 PM (OsWis)

299 Next thing you know Pope Commie Francis will be meeting with Sharpton and Jackson.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 27, 2015 11:35 PM (N2hPc)

300 The problem with people skills is that you can really only employ them on people. And people suck. It's best to just try to avoid them altogether.

Posted by: Garrett at January 27, 2015 11:35 PM (bsFjT)

301 >>>Or nazis.

Or rednecks.

Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 11:35 PM (e+1S5)

302 34 out of 36
My kids could never get away with lying to me. They hated it and tell each other stories about how Dad caught them at this or that....

Posted by: Last at January 27, 2015 11:36 PM (8HiDF)

303 >>People skills will let you manipulate people who have skills, except those that know Dunning-Kruger when they see it.

People skills isn't manipulating people. You can't manipulate smart, informed people.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 11:37 PM (g1DWB)

304 "I KNOW they aren't real monkeys, they just call them that because they look like orchid weasels..."


All right, got me there. I was like "weasel/orchid/monkey" for a while.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:37 PM (WkdDe)

305 OK, why is the "Sons of Liberty" Jefferson a full foot shorter than the actual Jefferson?

You shorties and your revisionism.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at January 27, 2015 11:37 PM (yxw0r)

306 Bubble Butt, the mini-series, follows the daily lives of horrible people who drink champagne out of the asses of even more horrible people, while suffering the heartbreak of psoriasis on their redundant nipples... coming to MSNBC this spring!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:37 PM (ASn1R)

307 Pope Commie Francis is going to drive away a lot of Catholics who are to the right of Howard Dean. Then what will be left of the Catholic Church? The pedophile priests and the cover up bishops were bad enough. Now this.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 27, 2015 11:37 PM (N2hPc)

308 299 Next thing you know Pope Commie Francis will be meeting with Sharpton and Jackson.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 27, 2015 11:35 PM (N2hPc)



Hell, that's nothing. I'm worried that Pope Frank will announce his engagement to one of the above.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 11:38 PM (oKE6c)

309 300 The problem with people skills is that you can really only employ them on people. And people suck. It's best to just try to avoid them altogether.
Posted by: Garrett at January 27, 2015 11:3

Giggles

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 11:38 PM (u/Asb)

310 Carol,

If your laundry room is that cold, I don't understand how your washer water lines haven't frozen & burst. Happened to me a few years back.

You know, you can get a $50 space heater with a built-in thermostat, set it at 50 degrees, and not freeze to death out there (or worry about frozen pipes).

Posted by: shredded chi at January 27, 2015 11:38 PM (3uV3Z)

311 >>>People skills isn't manipulating people. You can't manipulate smart, informed people.


Well not without a nice set of juggs.

Posted by: Garrett at January 27, 2015 11:39 PM (bsFjT)

312 I want to encourage Bay Area Morons to do the Ano Nuevo fundraiser. The only three days of it were this last Saturday, this last Sunday (when we went), and [someone has a twisted sense of humor] Valentine's Day. If you go any time besides a fundraiser, you will get a guided walk that -- while entertaining for an hour-and-a-half -- does not allow you to really observe the complex interplay of events.

So, Just to let everyone know how cool it is to see nature in action with the elephant seals.....imagine a very weird old-style Avalon Hill board game. To begin with, their reproductive biology reads like some bizarre set of arbitrary rules. They can only give birth or mate on land, though they spend the great majority of their lives at sea. While on land, they can neither eat nor eliminate. When a pregnant female is ready to give birth, they haul out -- preferably on the beach where they were born -- and give birth within about 5 days. They then nurse their pups for about 28 days, during which they lose about 40% of their body weight. When enough of their body weight is lost, their milk dries up (stranding their pups as "weaners") and....they immediately go into estrus. If they've been hanging out and nursing their pups in an area claimed by an "alpha male" who has been keeping all the others at bay to let her give birth and nurse in peace, it may improve the species if she is mated a time or two before it's time to get out of Dodge....but there are also "sneakers" around the edge who will rush in for a quickie on the north if the alpha is distracted on the south, there is the alpha just as big as the one who kept her safe who is going to swoop in and grab the entire "harem" for his own.....and then, there is that little "rape gauntlet" on her way out of town. And, BTW, you get to do this annually from when you're 3-5 to when you die at about 22 years old.

On the male side of things, you start showing up on the beach where you were born....but, hey, there's no chicks. A lot of guys show up. You have to learn about dominance, fighting, not getting your ass kicked, gaining territory, holding territory, holding territory with females inside, and mating with females from territory you've been holding -- before the females leave. So the males will also tend to lose a large chunk of their body weight during a season -- but just from fighting, chasing other males around, bleeding, being chased, mating, and hanging out. Their lifespan is only about 14 years, and their chance of actually mating starts at about year 10. An alpha male might sire 50 pups in a season....but there's a whole lot of bupkis for most males.

So, what this looks like is a large bull seal on the sand about 75 feet from the water, in the middle of a bunch of females, some with pups. Around the females -- and sometimes in sub-clumps of females -- are other males. Out in nowheresville, among the willows that sometimes grow in patches in the sand, there are other males. There are more males all the way back to the males you see in the water.

And the males are doing this really odd little game. One will move about three feet, and lay back down. If it was toward the alpha male or his females, the next move might be for the alpha to give him the stink-eye. If the first male was way too young and didn't have a chance, the next move might be to sort of apologetically go "I was just passing through" and move a little further on a course that will obviously bypass the females. Or he might retreat.

If he didn't seem apologetic enough, or seemed old and experienced enough to be dangerous, the alpha might lift his head up, puff up the size of his snout, and give him a Stern Look. Repeated or especially egregious violators might have the alpha rear back and produce some odd croaking vocalizations. If the other male didn't back down after that, it may be attacked.

Or a large male might come up from the beach, and croak out a challenge: "I am here for ur wimmenz!" -- and then lay back down. Most of the time, the reaction from that is "Meh." Ideally, a male would be so dominant that it could galumph up onto the beach as the first female went into estrus -- brushing aside those males who had fought off all previous challengers and become weak or depleted, all juvenile or sneaker males, and having females rally to his cry...but how would he know which beach had which females? How would he know how his strength compares with the locals? He hasn't fought anybody for a year -- does he still gotz da moves? So he's got to get up there a little early, and play the game, and practice.

When we were out there, there were just 5 weaned pups -- so there had only been five females among the hundreds on the beach where mating might have resulted in reproductive success -- and they had probably skedaddled by the time we were there. Some females were still coming in. And the males were doing this "move" "all the males observe the move" "some males move in reaction to the first move" "all the males observe" all the time -- they actually do it 24/7 while they're on land.

Every so often, one of the mature bulls around the fringes might attempt to mate with a complaining and uncooperative female -- more like a dry-hump, really. It generally starts with pinning the female down, throwing a flipper over, and biting the back of her neck. I would guess that this is a quick way of assessing whether she's lost about 38% of her body weight and tomorrow might be *The Day*. But you see 10-year-old males doing this to obviously pregnant females who have clustered around a 13-year-old alpha bull male....and the alpha will blow off the entire situation. He knows that Doris, over nursing her pup on the other side, comes due around Tuesday; he's been holding this harem since two weeks ago, and he's not going to waste his energy on some idiot squabble with Eileen and a retard when he's got good things in the works.

We saw plenty of action and had a great time last Sunday -- but desperation will certainly be the order of the day come Valentine's Day. I would expect things to be much more tense and bloody when more than five females have been "in play".

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2015 11:39 PM (T1005)

313 Garret..true

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 27, 2015 11:39 PM (dULJN)

314 OK, why is the "Sons of Liberty" Jefferson a full foot shorter than the actual Jefferson?

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts


Clearly it's because tall people can't act.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 27, 2015 11:39 PM (Zi7PZ)

315 87:I can wrap up the ignorance of America in one word.


Oprah

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at January 27, 2015 11:40 PM (EESgd)

316 But as one grows older, one tends to become less
patient, and less concerned with what other people think. I feel
curmudgeoness creeping up on me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 11:30 PM (l1zOH)/i]

same here for me, but that is because you have gotten to a point where people skills vs not giving a shit are a choice


people skills aren't necessarily about giving a shit what people think but being able to
work-with/communicate/etc. with large swaths of humanity

Posted by: # key at January 27, 2015 11:40 PM (N21UI)

317 Hell, that's nothing. I'm worried that Pope Frank will announce his engagement to one of the above.

He can use his pen and phone to abolish priest celibacy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2015 11:40 PM (W5DcG)

318 "Or he's an engineer.
"


Carry the two.....mumble.....there's a decimal in here some place.....mumble....DON'T QUESTION ME!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:40 PM (WkdDe)

319 >>Well not without a nice set of juggs.

Always a winning wild card.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 11:41 PM (g1DWB)

320 300 The problem with people skills is that you can really only employ them on people. And people suck. It's best to just try to avoid them altogether.

Posted by: Garrett
--------------------
Is your newsletter monthly? Quarterly? And how do I go about subscribing?

Posted by: shredded chi at January 27, 2015 11:42 PM (3uV3Z)

321 People skills isn't manipulating people. You can't manipulate smart, informed people.


Then, what is it?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 27, 2015 11:42 PM (NaeCR)

322 Oprah encompasses female ignorance at least.

Male ignorance?.....

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 11:42 PM (MDgS8)

323 Titanic of a flop? The new Hindenburg of cinema disasters?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2015 11:13 PM (+eQyZ)

Speaking of flops. "The American Sniper" reached 200 million bucks by the end of its second weekend. Meanwhile Johnny Depp's new movie took in a stunning $4 million. BWAHAHAHAHA
That Douche Depp can stay in France. Maybe the muzzies will get him.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 27, 2015 11:42 PM (N2hPc)

324
The pope is definitely a reformer, that's for sure. And his hokiness' change is a lot like obama's change.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 27, 2015 11:42 PM (q19mL)

325 Ricardo and I will come help with the Elephant Seals... but only if we can donate some carpet rolls and sheet plastic/duct taped wrapped items. You know, for nesting material & etc.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:43 PM (ASn1R)

326 We saw plenty of action and had a great time last Sunday -- but desperation will certainly be the order of the day come Valentine's Day. I would expect things to be much more tense and bloody when more than five females have been "in play".
Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2015 11

Sandra Fluke
Nancy Pelosi
Barbie Boxer
Di Feinstein
Jane Fonda

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 11:43 PM (u/Asb)

327
Too bad for the Catholics that they're stuck with a fucking lemon for a pope.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 27, 2015 11:43 PM (q19mL)

328 Wow....Depp's turned into a freaking leper overnight.

Maybe people are burned out on him from those awful pirate remakes.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 11:43 PM (MDgS8)

329 Heh, one can not go wrong underestimating the collective intelligence of any crowd. Then again, a lot of the Lamestream Media pundits who enjoy deriding The Masses (or "Them Asses" to quote Truman) are the sort who also manipulate the news and other public information to keep hoi polloi ignorant, under-educated, and motivated by emotion instead of reason.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 27, 2015 11:44 PM (/mTq0)

330 Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2015 11:39 PM (T1005)/i]


Ahem. To my point above re sexually dimorphic species ...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 11:44 PM (oKE6c)

331 I think people are forgetting the "jug" equivolent quoutant here.





Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:44 PM (WkdDe)

332 322 Oprah encompasses female ignorance at least.

Male ignorance?.....
Posted by: eleven at January

Dr.F*cking Phil

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 11:44 PM (u/Asb)

333 38D = rational argument.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:45 PM (ASn1R)

334 Dc practically shuts down with 2 inches of snow on the ground, which is ridiculous because it's not like snow is that unusual. They always get some every year, so, geez, buy a few more snow plows will ya? But what is even more idiotic is how nuts the traffic gets when it rains. "OMG! What is this water falling from the heavens?"

I hate winters in the upper midwest, but I like how snow is dealt with here. I appreciate the fact that the streets are cleared quickly and almost everyone is very good about shoveling and throwing down salt. That's another thing that drove me nuts about DC - people would wait until a layer of snow had developed under the ice until they shoved and then they would just shovel the snow, leave the ice there and throw sand on top of it- which does absolutely nothing. It was harder and more dangerous to get around after 2 or 3 inches had fallen there than it is to get around here after 6 or 8 inches because it's dealt with so much more efficiently.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at January 27, 2015 11:45 PM (+XMAD)

335 327


Too bad for the Catholics that they're stuck with a fucking lemon for a pope.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 27, 2015 11:43 PM (q19mL)



He's the last one.

Posted by: St. Malachy at January 27, 2015 11:45 PM (yxw0r)

336 I just got back from "American Sniper".

Very good movie. I recommend it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 27, 2015 11:45 PM (AVEe1)

337 326 We saw plenty of action and had a great time last Sunday -- but desperation will certainly be the order of the day come Valentine's Day. I would expect things to be much more tense and bloody when more than five females have been "in play".
Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2015 11

Sandra Fluke
Nancy Pelosi
Barbie Boxer
Di Feinstein
Jane Fonda

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 11:43 PM (u/Asb)



You'd think, in the circumstances, that Rosie O'Donnell would be in there somewhere.

Probably unnoticed, now that I think about it.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 11:46 PM (oKE6c)

338 Wheatie,
I read response on dead thread.
I hope you get over flu soon. Try taking 2 vitamins a day, if you take them.

I told oncologist in 2002 I was going to take 2 per day & I'd pass what my body didn't need.

I had flu 2x last year despite flu shot. I refused this year.

I hope that you are back to 100% soon. I don't have any suggestions for 70+ degrees temperature for garden, but enjoy day.

Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 11:46 PM (sj3Ax)

339 >>Then, what is it?

I've spent my career in sales, much of it international, and I've come to one conclusion about people; with the exception of a few obvious crazy bastards people are pretty much the same the world over. That includes here.

Act accordingly.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 11:47 PM (g1DWB)

340 "You know, for nesting material etc"


Down wid dat. Never been to Canada.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:47 PM (WkdDe)

341
328 Wow....Depp's turned into a freaking leper overnight. Maybe people are burned out on him from those awful pirate remakes.
Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 11:43 PM (MDgS


They're burned out on him doing the exact same thing. Oh look its Johnny Depp with funny facial hair and weird accent acting all wacky! Go see it, you love this stuff!

Its the idea that an actor is somehow box office gold no matter what, and I'm hoping Depp is killing that idea but I doubt it. You need that combination of actors, story, and visuals to mesh well.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2015 11:47 PM (zt+N6)

342 297


Or he's an engineer.





I'll post this link to Dilbert cartoon again : http://tinyurl.com/or4lrvx

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 11:35 PM (l1zOH)

=====so how come the end of the dilbert youtube came up with Asian Girls as the most obvious suggestion?

Posted by: jc at January 27, 2015 11:47 PM (iRJ+A)

343 Is Dr. Phil a guy thing?


The audience seems all womens.

Yeah if Dr. Phil is a guy thing then definitely that's male ignorance.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2015 11:48 PM (MDgS8)

344 Cooth @ 312

Can you just give us the short version - did you like the movie?

Posted by: shredded chi at January 27, 2015 11:48 PM (3uV3Z)

345 293
Watched all three parts of 'Sons of Liberty'.



What I liked about it, is the way they portrayed these guys as courageous fighters, who were up against very scary odds.

Just regular people, who were pushed too far by British tyranny and brutality...and stood up to it.



I mean, hey...it's the History Channel.

I didn't know what to expect.

-----------------------

History Channel does some pretty good shows on their own dollar. I always enjoy their two-hour "behind the story" shows that parallel current history films. I haven't watched "Sons of Liberty" yet but I liked the somewhat contemporary take on the Revolution as the product of a group of ordinary American people who decided that they weren't going to take it anymore.


Posted by: exdem13 at January 27, 2015 11:48 PM (/mTq0)

346 It's still snowing lightly in Boston area.

Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2015 11:48 PM (sj3Ax)

347 Mispelled "qoutient" above. I sincerely apolologize.


Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:49 PM (WkdDe)

348 About 15 degrees here in Lansing, Mich.

Not much snow so far this year, but it is cold.*



*This is not a challenge, oh Mighty Odin! Keep the Snow Demons at bay! I shall find you plenty of virginal sacrifices at the university!**



**Virginal in that whole 'PIV way' if you know what I mean....

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 11:49 PM (g+akU)

349 344,

heh.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 27, 2015 11:49 PM (OsWis)

350 Carol, you are up late.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:50 PM (WkdDe)

351 So on this eye test business.

We are allowed to remove them for examination, yes?

No?

Oh dear. How difficult.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2015 11:50 PM (noWW6)

352 Gorgeous day up here in NE Montana...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:50 PM (ASn1R)

353 120
The front page of a free, commuter "newspaper" from a liberal rag parent
"newspaper" this morning (that I assume was printed at 2 or 3 a.m.) was
treating the NE snowstorm as if it had actually happened and had
directly disrupted traffic, air flights etc. instead of reporting the
city, airport etc. had been shut down out of fear of the storm's
possible effects. Dicks.
--------------

Getting up early or staying up late to accurately report the weather would have been too much work.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 27, 2015 11:50 PM (/mTq0)

354 344
Cooth @ 312



Can you just give us the short version - did you like the movie?

Posted by: shredded chi at January 27, 2015 11:48 PM (3uV3Z)


I flagged it -- if you weren't a Bay Area Moron, you needn't read further. If you said, "hell, yes!" after the first paragraph, you needn't read the second, etc.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2015 11:51 PM (T1005)

355 I've spent my career in sales, much of it international, and I've come
to one conclusion about people; with the exception of a few obvious
crazy bastards people are pretty much the same the world over. That
includes here.



Act accordingly.


Ahh, I see, I have always understood 'people skills' to be to get people to do what they would not otherwise do on their own. Not unlike the skill of a carpenter on a piece of wood, or a welder or smith on metal.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 27, 2015 11:52 PM (NaeCR)

356 210 That blue & white shift/robe thing Mooch is wearing isn't bad really. It would look nice on a woman. Or a tent pole.
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:14 PM (ASn1R)

Her fashion choices are interesting. They seem to swing from great to inexplicable. She has a terribly out of proportion figure, very short, non-existent waist, and a butt like a shelf. In spite of this a lot of the time they come up with outfits that look good. Other times she'll wear something so bad that it rivals Carol Burnett's drapery dress from the "Gone With the Wind" parody.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 27, 2015 11:52 PM (N2hPc)

357 "Gorgeous day up here in NE Montana..."


You combining yet?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2015 11:52 PM (WkdDe)

358 Gorgeous day up here in NE Montana...
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 27, 2015 11:50 PM (ASn1R)

[insert bad joke here]so Miles City or Glenndive is where to go, or hike it to Billings to go 'clubbin' ?

Posted by: # key at January 27, 2015 11:53 PM (N21UI)

359 It's like Spring all over Montana these days.

Posted by: Garrett at January 27, 2015 11:54 PM (bsFjT)

360 Too bad for the Catholics that they're stuck with a fucking lemon for a pope.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 27, 2015 11:43 PM (q19mL)

He's the last one.

Posted by: St. Malachy at January 27, 2015 11:45 PM (yxw0r)


Any bets it'll involve an "inter-faith" get together at the Vatican, one of whom will be carrying a suitcase nuke?

Posted by: The Apocalyptic Hat at January 27, 2015 11:54 PM (0Ew3K)

361 Depp hasn't done much to redeem himself since the pirate movies, either.

He played Tonto in 'Lone Ranger'...which was pretty awful.

Then he played a terminally ill computer scientist who ended up inside a giant computer...which wasn't very good either.

So it's no surprise that people aren't turning out in droves to see him beclown himself yet again.

Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 11:55 PM (hX3bN)

362 cthulhu at January 27, 2015 11:39 PM

Very interesting.

Posted by: Xylan le Kronlaist at January 27, 2015 11:55 PM (PKZ94)

363 And yet, support for gun control was about twice what it is today. The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.

My W

Posted by: Weirddave at January 27, 2015 11:56 PM (WvS3w)

364 Ahh, I see, I have always understood 'people skills' to be to get people to do what they would not otherwise do on their own. Not unlike the skill of a carpenter on a piece of wood, or a welder or smith on metal.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 27, 2015 11:52 PM (NaeCR)

I would call tha that leadership,
or as Patton said
"getting people to do what they don't want to do and like it"

Posted by: # key at January 27, 2015 11:56 PM (N21UI)

365
361 Depp hasn't done much to redeem himself since the pirate movies, either. He played Tonto in 'Lone Ranger'...which was pretty awful. Then he played a terminally ill computer scientist who ended up inside a giant computer...which wasn't very good either. So it's no surprise that people aren't turning out in droves to see him beclown himself yet again.
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2015 11:55 PM (hX3bN)


You know he's part Native American. He's from the same tribe as Elizabeth Warren.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2015 11:56 PM (zt+N6)

366 207
I would not go to see Jupiter Ascending since it apparently took them a year to fix the film. And the plot is basically the one from Men in Black 3.

Titanic of a flop? The new Hindenburg of cinema disasters?
------------------------------

Jupiter Ascending had some real problems in post-production which caused some new scenes to be created. Judging from the trailers it is very heavy on f/x and action, not so sure about story. I have not read the book but I would not encourage fans in believing that the adaptation had enough decay to be a zombie.

I will have to see American Sniper in the theaters, to add my $$$ to the pile as a kindly reminder to Hollywood. The next big film on my schedule is Mad Max IV, which will be mighty.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 27, 2015 11:56 PM (/mTq0)

367 And yet, support for gun control was about twice what it is today. The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
My WAG is that is that people thought of gun control as something that would only apply to criminals, not the universal disarmament movement we have today.

Posted by: Weirddave at January 27, 2015 11:57 PM (WvS3w)

368
I don't remember who was before John Paul. JP immediately preceded JP II, yes? That's as far as my mammaries of popes goes back -- to the pope before John Paul II.

In my lifetime there has never been a lemon for a pope until now.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 27, 2015 11:58 PM (q19mL)

369 359 It's like Spring all over Montana these days.
Posted by: Garrett at January 27, 2015

And since it's only January, you will pay for this

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2015 11:58 PM (u/Asb)

370 Cthullu, you're an awesome guy, but there's no way in hell I'm reading that wall of text. So be awesome and bottom line it for me: did you like the movie or not?

Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 11:58 PM (e+1S5)

371 361
Depp hasn't done much to redeem himself since the pirate movies, either.



So it's no surprise that people aren't turning out in droves to see him beclown himself yet again.
------------------

Depp will be the next Michael Caine. He's had his Oscar, he's had his birg roles, now he's going to star in whichever film meets his salary demands so he can have the second summer home and put the kids through college.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 27, 2015 11:58 PM (/mTq0)

372 Old and busted: quadcopters
Teh new hotness: hexacopters

A neighbor's house was seriously messed up by a falling tree. The contractors were running a hexacopter, with a suspended camera, up over the house, to evaluate the damage. Seriously cool gear with impressive lift capacity.

Posted by: Splunge at January 27, 2015 11:58 PM (qyomX)

373 Posted by: nerdygirl at January 27, 2015 11:52 PM (N2hPc)


I would not go so far as to say " a lot" ( I can only think of 2 occasions where she looked really good) but I agree that it seems to swing wildly.

I am always amazed at how sloppy she looks most of the time, though. Her clothes never fit well; they're usually too tight, but it is not unusual to see her in something so loose as to be wildly askew, either.

To say nothing of the panty lines.

They have no class, and she has horrible taste.

Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 27, 2015 11:59 PM (Pauop)

374 I scored 27 on that test, but it was clearly bogus.

All of those broads were giving me the "I want you" look.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2015 12:00 AM (X9Mnx)

375 345...History Channel does some pretty good shows on their own dollar.

Yeah, they do.
'Vikings' has been pretty good, so I'll probably watch season 3.
Or is it season 4? ...I've lost track.

For a cable channel original production, 'Sons of Liberty' was really good, surprisingly so.

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2015 12:00 AM (hX3bN)

376 367 My WAG is that is that people thought of gun control as something that would only apply to criminals, not the universal disarmament movement we have today.

That, and they hadn't tried it yet, so they didn't know how much it would suck. Kind of like Obama. Yeah, I know, 2012, but the press lies.

Posted by: Splunge at January 28, 2015 12:01 AM (qyomX)

377 Were You Denied Admission to Harvard? It may be because you're the wrong race.

If you're Asian, yes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 28, 2015 12:01 AM (39g3+)

378 370
Cthullu, you're an awesome guy, but there's no way in hell I'm reading
that wall of text. So be awesome and bottom line it for me: did you
like the movie or not?

Posted by: DC in River City at January 27, 2015 11:58 PM (e+1S5)


Doesn't apply to you -- ignore it. It was an amazing and cool experience, and we enjoyed it very much, but you have to be local to see it.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 12:01 AM (T1005)

379 A neighbor's house was seriously messed up by a falling tree. The contractors were running a hexacopter, with a suspended camera, up over the house, to evaluate the damage. Seriously cool gear with impressive lift capacity.
Posted by: Splunge
-------------------------

How come teenagers in Slovenia have one of those, and I don't? BTW, the one running the 'copter, and the one filming are both sixteen-year olds... with ham licences.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2015 12:02 AM (l1zOH)

380 365...You know he's part Native American. He's from the same tribe as Elizabeth Warren.

Hah!
StandsWithABirdOnHisHead?

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2015 12:02 AM (hX3bN)

381 cooth,

I read your wall of words...mutual of omaha came to mind...

just with cooler lingo.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 28, 2015 12:03 AM (OsWis)

382 ...and it's 12.2 degrees F on my front porch, in the howling wilderness outside of Columbus.

I thought Johnny Depp was hilarious as "tonto" in the Lone Ranger, although it was a pretty stupid movie.

Having said that, it's just he's made a lot of bad movies lately. The critics may "love them", but a bad movie is a bad movie.

And frankly, most of the movies lately are pretty bad. No one is allowed to write really good stuff and get it produced.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....in the bleak midwinter at January 28, 2015 12:03 AM (+1T7c)

383
old: peanut allergies

older: lactose intolerance

new: gluten intolerance

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 28, 2015 12:04 AM (q19mL)

384 mutual of omaha's wild kingdom

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 28, 2015 12:04 AM (OsWis)

385 And lord, that tranny Pennsylvania surgeon general dude.

Reminds me all over again that I just don't get it.



Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 28, 2015 12:04 AM (Pauop)

386 >>Ahh, I see, I have always understood 'people skills' to be to get people to do what they would not otherwise do on their own. Not unlike the skill of a carpenter on a piece of wood, or a welder or smith on metal.

Or getting them to buy a good or a service they didn't intend to.

I know what you meant, what I was trying to say is listening to someone and getting them to listen to you is the only way you can really influence them.

Manipulating people doesn't work any better than trying to manipulate wood.



Posted by: JackStraw at January 28, 2015 12:04 AM (g1DWB)

387 272
I know TPH, glad he is not 'working on it' and thus it is safe. Now if they would just give up on Ghost in the Shell.

and what did I just stumble across??
http://youtu.be/4-0hkRurDMs
------------------------------

Hey Scarlett Johansen says "hot babe" in every language of the world. I don't know why they couldn't have gotten a genuine Japanese or Japanese-'Murican actress for the role, but then why cast Gary Cooper as a Kiwi mountain climber in The Guns of Navarone? Star power!!

That music reminds me of stuff they used to play at Sugoicon rave parties. It's squeaky techno alright.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 28, 2015 12:04 AM (/mTq0)

388 78 tomorrow as the high...40s by the end of the weekend.

Texas weather is schizo.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 28, 2015 12:05 AM (OsWis)

389 heya Tammy!

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 28, 2015 12:05 AM (OsWis)

390
380 365...You know he's part Native American. He's from the same tribe as Elizabeth Warren. Hah! StandsWithABirdOnHisHead?
Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2015 12:02 AM (hX3bN)


http://tinyurl.com/lfu2uoc

Posted by: buzzion at January 28, 2015 12:06 AM (zt+N6)

391 They're burned out on him doing the exact same thing. Oh look its Johnny Depp with funny facial hair and weird accent acting all wacky! Go see it, you love this stuff! Its the idea that an actor is somehow box office gold no matter what, and I'm hoping Depp is killing that idea but I doubt it. You need that combination of actors, story, and visuals to mesh well.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2015 11:47 PM

Not sure about burn out, but yeah he's been doing that for too long now. I think it's more that he's doing shit movies, or not good enough screenplays to to make it work. The point about actor = gold is the crux when it comes to Depp. I don't think he was ever a "name before the title" type actor... I doubt that he was ever THE draw to a movie. He just made his rep by being in mostly good movies and doing a good/memorable role, which was icing on the cake, rather than the whole cake. I like Depp, but, apart from the occasional part, he has always worked best as a cog, rather than the machine... if you know what I mean.

Posted by: otho at January 28, 2015 12:06 AM (tBSrv)

392 >>>Ahh, I see, I have always understood 'people skills' to be to get people to do what they would not otherwise do on their own. Not unlike the skill of a carpenter on a piece of wood, or a welder or smith on metal.

I have two related and somewhat contradictory thoughts here:

1) "a leader is someone you will follow somewhere you wouldn't go alone"

B) in sales, I recently told a potential client "based on what you told me, you don't need our product right now. And that's fine. But I'll still stop in from time to time to put you some fucking knowledge about the industry and make sure that when you do need my product, I'm the guy you trust and want to work with because I didn't try to up sell you on some shit you can't use."

I may have paraphrased a bit, but that message got through loud and clear.

Posted by: DC in River City at January 28, 2015 12:06 AM (e+1S5)

393 22.5 here in W. NC., very light dusting of snow

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2015 12:07 AM (l1zOH)

394 Well, I need to go to bed. Stay warm every Hordes-person in the Northern hemisphere and do not fret! Nay, put aside those frowns for the mead and ale flows freely here in the AoSHQ longhouse!

Soon the digitally-created longships shall be freed and taste the life-giving waters once more! And the Horde hall descend and wreak...whatever we do...when we descend! But be assured we shall descend - and wreak!*


*Remembering that is pillage first, then burn...I don't know how often I must say that...."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 28, 2015 12:08 AM (g+akU)

395 Depp will be the next Michael Caine. He's had his Oscar, he's had his birg roles, now he's going to star in whichever film meets his salary demands so he can have the second summer home and put the kids through college.
Posted by: exdem13


The thing with Caine, though, is that he's always been a efffusive, engaging pro. Depp thought he could be a blockbuster actor and a recluse at the same time.

Look up Caine and 'seminar' or 'studio' on youtube. The man loves his profession and wants others to be the best they can be.

Depp, for all I can tell, doesn't give a shit if the world ends tomorrow.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 28, 2015 12:09 AM (Zi7PZ)

396 I would call tha that leadership,
or as Patton said

"getting people to do what they don't want to do and like it"
.
.
Guess I am not much of a 'follower'.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 28, 2015 12:09 AM (NaeCR)

397 new: gluten intolerance
You're allowed to hate those white bastards!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 28, 2015 12:10 AM (L6/+u)

398 >> in sales, I recently told a potential client "based on what you told me, you don't need our product right now. And that's fine. But I'll still stop in from time to time to put you some fucking knowledge about the industry and make sure that when you do need my product, I'm the guy you trust and want to work with because I didn't try to up sell you on some shit you can't use."

Exactly.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 28, 2015 12:10 AM (g1DWB)

399 And nothing like having someone who is mentally ill as the state's Surgeon-General.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 28, 2015 12:11 AM (L6/+u)

400 They have no class, and she has horrible taste.

Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 27, 2015 11:59 PM (Pauop)


=====I never made it past the scowl to see what she was wearing. She has that look that always makes me think -- "let bitches stew in their own venom, there is no point in engaging."

Hey MizzT, Howz U?

Posted by: jc at January 28, 2015 12:12 AM (iRJ+A)

401 Were You Denied Admission to Harvard? It may be because you're the wrong race.

If you're Asian, yes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 28, 2015 12:01 AM (39g3+)


Why do you think the California Legislature Grand Scoviet didn't advance a state Constitutional Amendment to allow Affirmative Action in college admissions?

http://tinyurl.com/omhel5v

http://tinyurl.com/mswrmxp

http://tinyurl.com/opn9e7c

Posted by: The Un-Affirmative Hat at January 28, 2015 12:13 AM (0Ew3K)

402 I think Johnny Depp's agent is using him to get movies greenlit that wouldn't otherwise. If he can get Johnny Depp onto a script, it will get made. So its a way of getting other clients into roles and scripts made using Depp. And he's just in a cloud of pot smoke.

Depp is really a very good actor but its been since, what, Donnie Brasco that he put on a good role? I mean I enjoyed him in the first Pirates movie but it wasn't exactly brilliant acting.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 28, 2015 12:13 AM (39g3+)

403 A neighbor's house was seriously messed up by a falling tree. The contractors were running a hexacopter, with a suspended camera, up over the house, to evaluate the damage. Seriously cool gear with impressive lift capacity.
Posted by: Splunge at January 27, 2015 11:58 PM (qyomX)

*******

I fly a quad, hex and even an octo copter. There are people that,have built 12 armed/motored copters that they have used to lift themselves off of the ground even. I find that last to be insane, as I have no wish to be in that kinda proximity to razor,sharp spinning blades, but whatevs.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 28, 2015 12:13 AM (rsO9D)

404 I got 29 out of 36 on the eyes test.

That's a relief. I was afraid I would get like 4 and be labeled a sociopath or something.

Posted by: rickl at January 28, 2015 12:14 AM (sdi6R)

405 395 The thing with Caine, though, is that he's always been a efffusive, engaging pro.

This. And not always going for the big paycheck when he does work -- unless Harry Browne (hope I got that title right) paid more than I imagine. It was a great role.

Posted by: Splunge at January 28, 2015 12:14 AM (qyomX)

406 332: Deepak Chopra.

I hate Oprah Winfrey. She is fucking vile.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at January 28, 2015 12:15 AM (EESgd)

407 =====so how come the end of the dilbert youtube came up with Asian Girls as the most obvious suggestion?

Duh. Engineer.

Posted by: Weirddave at January 28, 2015 12:15 AM (WvS3w)

408 315 87:I can wrap up the ignorance of America in one word.
Oprah
Posted by: puddleglum not at work at January 27, 2015 11:40 PM (EESgd)

That is one person whose popularity I've never been able to understand. Even before I had any idea what her political views were, I always saw her as a boring daytime tv personality. Just a lot of white noise that wouldn't hold my attention. People like Jon Stewart and Maher are at least clever. She seems bland to me and her show always seemed bland.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 28, 2015 12:16 AM (N2hPc)

409 Michael Caine was always good and entertaining in everything he did, even the clunkers. Ditto guys like Sean Connery. You knew at least you were going to enjoy him even if the rest of the movie was awful.

Still, not even Connery could pull "Medicine Man" out of the crapper. That film is proof that Scorcese is a genius as a director, to get a halfway decent performance out of Lorraine Bracco.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 28, 2015 12:17 AM (39g3+)

410 Oprah = gospel of narcissism.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2015 12:17 AM (elbY7)

411 Tuesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560130175527301120

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560130729838145536

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560131228314370048

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560131627645685760

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2015 12:17 AM (GrXXa)

412 381
cooth,



I read your wall of words...mutual of omaha came to mind...



just with cooler lingo.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 28, 2015 12:03 AM (OsWis)


The thing is, we've done the cheap-o tour, and we've done fundraisers where we spent hours out there.....and you don't "get it" with the regular presentation. Because the seals are doing it 24/7, because they've been doing it for years, because they have to make it all the way to success and the gates are so narrow -- they have this amazing, intricate dance that they do in steps. And each time one of them does something, they all re-evaluate.

And, then, there are the wild cards. The rangers and some volunteers were all talking about some action we'd missed that morning. It seems that some 9-year-old came up off the beach and got the stink-eye from a much larger, more scarred, deeper-voiced, bigger-schnozzed, older and more experienced male......and then proceeded to challenge back, provoke a fight, go berserker, and send the older male running. We saw the victor -- he was back to the "just laying there" phase -- and there was just no way that should have happened.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 12:19 AM (T1005)

413 Tuesday Night ONT Compliance Pics Le Encore

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560151792470994945

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560153145196941312

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560153267188277248

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/560153472000356352

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2015 12:19 AM (GrXXa)

414 390 380 365...You know he's part Native American. He's from the same tribe as Elizabeth Warren.

Hah! StandsWithABirdOnHisHead?
Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2015 12:02 AM (hX3bN)


http://tinyurl.com/lfu2uoc

Posted by: buzzion at January 28, 2015 12:06 AM (zt+N6)

---------

Eeesh, I thought you were joking about that.

He didn't do himself any favors by making that claim.
There are a lot of us who have a little bit of Indian blood...it's not that big of a deal.

Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2015 12:20 AM (hX3bN)

415 324
The pope is definitely a reformer, that's for sure. And his hokiness' change is a lot like obama's change.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 27, 2015 11:42 PM (q19mL)

But he's not reforming the church. He's running around doing all this lefty public relations stuff. That crap is empty. The only thing he is going to accomplish is to piss off half of the American Catholics. Our southern border is none of his Damn business. Maybe we should ship all those illegal immigrants to Vatican City.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 28, 2015 12:20 AM (N2hPc)

416 I have always understood 'people skills' to be to get people to do what they would not otherwise do on their own. Not unlike the skill of a carpenter on a piece of wood, or a welder or smith on metal.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 27, 2015 11:52 PM (NaeCR)


Your understanding is incorrect. "People skills" refers to the ability to communicate with people in a comfortable manner and find out what they want, by listening.

Posted by: CQD at January 28, 2015 12:20 AM (2dzsA)

417 > in sales, I recently told a potential client "based on what you told me, you don't need our product right now. And that's fine. But I'll still stop in from time to time to put you some fucking knowledge about the industry and make sure that when you do need my product, I'm the guy you trust and want to work with because I didn't try to up sell you on some shit you can't use."

******

Yep, this is Sales done right.

I never gave a wet shit for those that were described as being "able to sell Ice to Eskimos". Pretty soon after said purchase, Eskimo's boss will be all up in his grill about why he spent company money on said abundantly available ice. Only short termers go for the one and done sales approach.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at January 28, 2015 12:22 AM (rsO9D)

418 Every time I hear "people skills", I think of the movie Office Space.

Posted by: puddleglum not at work at January 28, 2015 12:22 AM (EESgd)

419
is Sons of Liberty a misnomer?

I'm about to sit and watch the first episode. I'm wondering if these guys were the sons or were they the fathers of liberty??

If they were the sons, who were the fathers?

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 28, 2015 12:22 AM (q19mL)

420 Don't expect any conservative pope ever again for the Roman Catholic Church. They've got a new generation of guys making the calls up there now.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 28, 2015 12:22 AM (39g3+)

421 397 new: gluten intolerance
You're allowed to hate those white bastards!
Posted by: andycanuck at January

Ha.

Scottie Walker has been playing some bands music. They asked him to stop because they hate him. So much for the tea party and socons being the party of hate.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 28, 2015 12:23 AM (u/Asb)

422 I think I get Oprah's popularity. She's reassuring and calming. It seems to be the number 1 quality valued in daytime TV. My assumption is that the audience is basically filled with anxiety and needs reassurance above all. That happens often when the parents were not stable.

Posted by: Splunge at January 28, 2015 12:24 AM (qyomX)

423 The promos for Sons of Liberty made me want to watch anything else. It just looked like they were doing some kind of hipster version of it, like "A Knight's Tale" with modern music and modern dudes. "Like, we gotta be free and stuff!"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 28, 2015 12:25 AM (39g3+)

424 Yep. I'm in roofing sales, commercial and residential.

Very often, for minor repairs, I refer them to a qualified handyman I know. He can do it inexpensively, and he's a good contact for my customer for all manner of minor repairs.

Then later, when they really need a roof, they call me first, and usually to the exclusion of any other company.

Same with routine roof inspections, both commercial and residential. They're amazed when I come down the ladder, and tell 'em that they've got a few more good years left in their roof, that it's not a crisis today, but to start saving up a fund for it.

That, when most of my competition has tried scare tactics, fear of loss or other "techniques" on them. I just show them the photos, give them my best projections, and let them make their own best decisions.

Conversely, if they've got a valid insurance claim, you can be damn sure that once it's filed, I'm going to be up there shoulder to shoulder with the insurance adjuster. First, to make sure the claim gets properly reviewed. If it SHOULD get "bought", I'm going to make sure that it DOES. Further, I'm going to make sure that the property owner doesn't get shorted by the adjuster. You'd be amazed at how often they try to not pay for things like drip edge, new lead roof jacks, etc., etc.

All a good salesman does, is provide QUALITY customer service, from the very first syllable of the conversation, to the very last. And that sometimes requires not making a sale, to provide that excellence.

Manipulation is for rookies, amateurs, cheats and charlatans. A professional is an educator, advisor, guide and trusted confidant. A partner in the process. You buy something from a true professional, you know that BOTH of you gained in the transaction.

Oh, and my repeat and referral business is off the charts to the good. Any guesses as to why that might be?

It's not from manipulation, that's for damn sure.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


P.S. SMFH That huge hailstorm you had up there 'bout Feb, last year? I didn't work that storm, as my truck had just got totaled....but the company did, to the tune of slightly over 400 new roofs, and still counting.

Posted by: Jim at January 28, 2015 12:25 AM (RzZOc)

425 I know what you meant, what I was trying to say is
listening to someone and getting them to listen to you is the only way
you can really influence them.



Manipulating people doesn't work any better than trying to manipulate wood.









Posted by: JackStraw
.
.
.
That I will give,
"listening to someone and getting them to listen to you".

The worst boss I have ever had bluntly stated that his interest "was having subordinates that suport his decisions" as his primary concern.

The guy had six professionals (in their own niche) making independent recommendations based upon their niche; boss expected formal recommendations to be (re)written to meet 'his decision' to justify 'his decision' which was supposedly based upon the six independent recommendations; bluntly to cover his ass if/when his decision on those fabricated recommendations went tango-upsilon.

Most influential 'people person' I ever worked for. Also the sleaziest person. And, again, most influential people person.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 28, 2015 12:25 AM (NaeCR)

426 Your understanding is incorrect. "People skills" refers to the ability to communicate with people in a comfortable manner and find out what they want, by listening.
Posted by: CQD at January 28, 2015

So, you're the Moron whose been talking to the Mrs.?,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 28, 2015 12:26 AM (u/Asb)

427 They're burned out on him doing the exact same thing. Oh look its Johnny Depp with funny facial hair and weird accent acting all wacky! Go see it, you love this stuff!

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2015 11:47 PM (zt+N6)

He's turning himself into another Paulie Shore.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 28, 2015 12:26 AM (N2hPc)

428 got the stink-eye from a much larger, more scarred, deeper-voiced, bigger-schnozzed, older and more experienced male..


Sounds like a roman a clef from Hollywood.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2015 12:27 AM (oKE6c)

429 A long time ago I stumbled upon the fact that people
skills are kinda important and will get you farther than almost any
other skill most of the time

Posted by: # key at January 27, 2015 11:16 PM (N21UI)


I told a lead worker who was kind of depressed about not getting a minor promotion that she was clearly being groomed for a management position because of her people skills.
She was more than a little incredulous, and I had to add, "You have people skills. I would kill to have your level of people skills. And that's the problem, really."

Posted by: Kindltot at January 28, 2015 12:28 AM (t//F+)

430
Okay, less than 2 minutes into Sons Of Liberty and they already blew it.

NO ONE ever called Samuel Adams "Sam."

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 28, 2015 12:28 AM (q19mL)

431 "People skills" refers to the ability to communicate with people in a
comfortable manner and find out what they want, by listening.

Posted by: CQD at January 28, 2015



Anything about singing them show tunes, or interior decorating, perchance?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2015 12:28 AM (oKE6c)

432 was
treating the NE snowstorm as if it had actually happened and had directly disrupted traffic, air flights etc. instead of reporting the city, airport etc. had been shut down out of fear of the storm's possible effects. Dicks.

Getting up early or staying up late to accurately report the weather would have been too much work.
Posted by: exdem13 at January 27, 2015 11:50 PM (/mTq0)

These are the geniuses who look down on those of us from the flyover zone. Ya know, all those rubes who know how to deal with actual weather.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 28, 2015 12:29 AM (N2hPc)

433
A redcoat captain isn't gonna barge into a tavern and demand to see "Sam" Adams.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 28, 2015 12:29 AM (q19mL)

434
Conversely, if they've got a valid insurance claim, you can be damn sure that once it's filed, I'm going to be up there shoulder to shoulder with the insurance adjuster. First, to make sure the claim gets properly reviewed. If it SHOULD get "bought", I'm going to make sure that it DOES. Further, I'm going to make sure that the property owner doesn't get shorted by the adjuster. You'd be amazed at how often they try to not pay for things like drip edge, new lead roof jacks, etc., etc
------------
And you be spirited how many roofers do not sell like, kind and quality materials. Or intentionally damage roofing and/or accessories to sell a roof.

Yes Jim, I'm one of those.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 28, 2015 12:30 AM (u/Asb)

435 B) in sales, I recently told a potential client
"based on what you told me, you don't need our product right now. And
that's fine. But I'll still stop in from time to time to put you some
fucking knowledge about the industry and make sure that when you do need
my product, I'm the guy you trust and want to work with because I
didn't try to up sell you on some shit you can't use."



I may have paraphrased a bit, but that message got through loud and clear.

Posted by: DC in River City
.
.

That is pretty damn straight and respectable.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 28, 2015 12:30 AM (NaeCR)

436 >>>If they were the sons, who were the fathers?

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 28, 2015 12:22 AM (q19mL)<<<

The mailman. IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: zombie Ben Franklin, "Father of the Post Office" at January 28, 2015 12:30 AM (tdmtT)

437 I just got back from "American Sniper".
Very good movie. I recommend it.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 27, 2015 11:45 PM

We saw it the day it opened here, never seen such crowds at the theater here.

You might like the book also, I'm reading it now. BTW, in the book he mentions killing a woman that had a bomb, but there was no kid, that's fiction for the movie. He states besides her all his kills were adult males.

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2015 12:30 AM (o/90i)

438 >>Most influential 'people person' I ever worked for. Also the sleaziest person. And, again, most influential people person.

Doesn't seem like much of a people person to me. Sounds like someone I would like to punch in the dick.

I hate the term people person. Gayer than drama club. I still maintain after 30+ years doing this is listening to people is about the only thing that matters if you really want to interact with others.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 28, 2015 12:32 AM (g1DWB)

439 NO ONE ever called Samuel Adams "Sam."

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 28, 2015 12:28 AM (q19mL)

A few weeks ago for relaxation I re-read Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six, and cringed when the central character refers to a Brit with the given name of "Alastair" as "Al."

It's difficult to convey how much of a faux pas that would be, but addressing Queen Elizabeth as "Betsy" would come close.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2015 12:32 AM (oKE6c)

440 NO ONE ever called Samuel Adams "Sam."

Posted by: Soothsayer


How the fuck would you know?

Posted by: Mrs. Sam Adams at January 28, 2015 12:34 AM (Zi7PZ)

441 I got a 33 out of 36 on the eye test.

Guess that comes from having to navigate the teen years of 3 daughters.

(Daughter #4 has Down syndrome - she's a breeze compared to her sisters....)

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 28, 2015 12:34 AM (PZ6/M)

442 It's difficult to convey how much of a faux pas that would be, but addressing Queen Elizabeth as "Betsy" would come close.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2015 12:32 AM (oKE6c

Hey Liz make a ham sammich please and bring me one of those Sammy Adams brewskis

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 28, 2015 12:34 AM (u/Asb)

443 It's difficult to convey how much of a faux pas that would be, but addressing Queen Elizabeth as "Betsy" would come close.
Posted by: Jay Guevara
-----------

But I can touch her, right?

Posted by: The Moocher at January 28, 2015 12:34 AM (028dR)

444 But I can touch her, right?

Posted by: The Moocher at January 28, 2015 12:34 AM (028dR



No doubt. I'm sure she loves being snogged by the natives.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2015 12:35 AM (oKE6c)

445 Jim at January 28, 2015 12:25 AM (RzZOc)

You're desperately needed in Venezuela ....

cracks in their capital building or assembly or some such ... can't find the link ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 28, 2015 12:36 AM (P+IZm)

446 A redcoat captain isn't gonna barge into a tavern and demand to see "Sam" Adams.

Posted by: Soothsayer is S.I.G. at January 28, 2015 12:29 AM (q19mL)


Maybe he just wanted a beer?

Posted by: The Lager Hat at January 28, 2015 12:37 AM (0Ew3K)

447 441,

It also works well with soldiers and their excuses as to why they were late for formations.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 28, 2015 12:37 AM (OsWis)

448 >>>We saw it the day it opened here, never seen such crowds at the theater here.

I really want to see it. I loved the book, and sorta just want to be part of the whole phenomenon. But the one (1) theater in town blows donkey dick, and the next closest one is a solid 45 minute drive each way. Factor in the three hour movie plus dinner, and we're looking at a 6 hour date night.

Not willing to leave Princess for that long on the weekend. I don't even see her most weekdays, so I need Saturday and Sunday for daddy time.

I did get to pick her up from school today, and then to Chick Fil A for a sammich and a shake. So, yay me.

Posted by: DC in River City at January 28, 2015 12:38 AM (e+1S5)

449 "...Pregnant women are at very high risk of passing on DNA to their children."

Haahahaha...

To the truly ignorant, that would certainly sound ominous...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 28, 2015 12:38 AM (DO37j)

450 I ran multiple high-end retail stores for 20+ years.
To me, sales can be easily boiled down - people will buy from you for two reasons. Trust and Value.

As I told the last guy fired, "look, I taught you how to build value into our products. But I cant teach you to be ethical. People don't buy from you because they don't trust you. They don't trust you because you're a slimeball that tries to manipulate them - I can't teach you not to be a dick. Bye."

Sometimes, I miss sales. Then, I get out in the world and interact with people...


Posted by: shredded chi at January 28, 2015 12:38 AM (3uV3Z)

451 439
A few weeks ago for relaxation I re-read Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six, and cringed when the central character refers to a Brit with the given name of "Alastair" as "Al."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2015 12:32 AM (oKE6c)



Well, Alastair Ian Stewart goes by "Al", but that's his own choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvccz7UvS1U

Posted by: rickl at January 28, 2015 12:38 AM (sdi6R)

452 434


Conversely, if they've got a valid insurance claim, you can be damn
sure that once it's filed, I'm going to be up there shoulder to shoulder
with the insurance adjuster. First, to make sure the claim gets
properly reviewed. If it SHOULD get "bought", I'm going to make sure
that it DOES. Further, I'm going to make sure that the property owner
doesn't get shorted by the adjuster. You'd be amazed at how often they
try to not pay for things like drip edge, new lead roof jacks, etc., etc

------------

And you be spirited how many roofers do not sell like, kind and
quality materials. Or intentionally damage roofing and/or accessories to
sell a roof.



Yes Jim, I'm one of those.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 28, 2015 12:30 AM (u/Asb)


When we bought our house, we had the (wood shake) roof inspected and cleaned-up a bit. The roofers said that, with some luck, we could get about another eight years out of it and that a re-roof would cost about $16K.

Twelve years later, we'd saved $24,000 and they were the first people we *tried* to call....but they were gone.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 12:39 AM (T1005)

453 MH, we'll have to compare notes, further.

But yep, you're right. On our end, we're fully factory affiliated, certified and supported.

2013, I had a roof go up on an 82 y/o retired pastor's house. He'd specified 25 yr, three-tab composition shingles. Upon installation, it was evident that there was a problem. A somewhat repetitive, semi-herringbone looking pattern of colors in the shingles. Which, should have been of all one uniform shade.

Three days later, I've got the manufacturer's rep standing on that roof, and our foreman pulls three sample shingles (replacing with temporaries), and those samples are overnighted to the factory's lab for analysis.

Sure enough, they confirmed that the shingles had been "over-rolled" (which presses the aggregate too deeply into the asphalt substrate), and were defective. Along with this report, the manufacturer also sent written authorization to immediately replace the entire roof system, at zero cost to the homeowner, and with an upgrade to a 30 year, architectural shingle.

We can do that, because we're factory certified in each and every residential and commercial application with which we work.

"Chuck in a Truck?" .... not so much, and the only warranty is the one on the shingle bundle wrappers he threw away with the roof debris.

We've won the BBB Pinnacle award, in 2014 and 2012, and were runners up in 2011 and 2013. Out of over 3,500 roofers in the Greater Houston market. Pinnacle is the No. 1 for Customer Satisfaction. Our Angie's List ratings are similarly awesome.

It's funny..... do things RIGHT, and good things happen.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 28, 2015 12:41 AM (RzZOc)

454 441
I got a 33 out of 36 on the eye test.



Guess that comes from having to navigate the teen years of 3 daughters.



(Daughter #4 has Down syndrome - she's a breeze compared to her sisters....)



Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 28, 2015 12:34 AM (PZ6/M)


I was just thinking about you recently. I hope you are well.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 12:42 AM (T1005)

455 445 You're desperately needed in Venezuela ....

cracks in their capital building or assembly or some such ... can't find the link .


Glad to hear it. No one with any sense would take that job, because how would they get paid, and why would they want to support evil even if they were paid?

Posted by: Splunge at January 28, 2015 12:43 AM (qyomX)

456 It took an hour to take & folder towels, etc & put everything away.

Now I'm trying to get. Used to always using Mercury browser on iPad.

Good night zhordd & I'm going back to watching Boardwalk Empire. I'm glad I didn't watch during times when it was on because, like Dexter, I don't have to wait between episodes.

Posted by: Carol at January 28, 2015 12:44 AM (sj3Ax)

457 445....wouldn't want the job. For one, I'd like to get paid, in U.S. Dollars. Second, I don't want to be killed, before, during or after the job is done. TMVM.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 28, 2015 12:45 AM (RzZOc)

458 See, I'm learning things again on the ONT.

If I ever live in Houston and need a new roof, call Jim.

Posted by: DC in River City at January 28, 2015 12:47 AM (e+1S5)

459 NVKate,
I'm good for me.

Thank you.

How are you?

Posted by: Carol at January 28, 2015 12:48 AM (sj3Ax)

460 Aww....thanks, Coothie!

Doing quite well - I've been scarce on the internet because my New Year's resolution this year is to finish stitching stockings for my family (click link in my name for blog post with pictures).

I have a future son-in-law who is going to need ones as well, so it may be a while.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 28, 2015 12:49 AM (PZ6/M)

461 Twelve years later, we'd saved $24,000 and they were the first people we *tried* to call....but they were gone.


Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 12:39 AM (T1005)


The good news is that I wasn't worried about roofers intentionally damaging the roof to make their estimate into a job -- the roof was shot and I was getting multiple estimates.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 12:49 AM (T1005)

462 cthulhu.... (and anyone else)


Even though we're a Houston company, due to our manufacturer relationship, our contacts are quite literally, worldwide.

Anyone out there needs a quality referral for a roofer, I can source it out for you. I don't make a dime on those, but I'll do it to help a Moron, for sure.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 28, 2015 12:53 AM (RzZOc)

463 453 MH, we'll have to compare notes, further.
---------

Comparing notes would be fun. From all indications you are a rare gem in the roofing world. As an insurance adjuster big fines for us caught dealing with unfair claim practices.

1/2 of your roof shot from a tree limb. Will fix the hole(s) replace a slope of new lkq shingles, new drip edge, vents if necessary.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 28, 2015 12:54 AM (u/Asb)

464 All a good salesman does, is provide QUALITY customer service, from the very first syllable of the conversation, to the very last. And that sometimes requires not making a sale, to provide that excellence.

I tell my clients, I'm not an insurance salesman, I'm an insurance agent. My focus is on getting you the right coverage for your situation. I'll even sign them up for Obamacide if that's the best option for them, even though I don't make a dime for doing it (Some ACA companies do pay a commission (of sorts, about $15/month) but I can't be arsed to go through the pain in the ass of getting appointed with them. I make plenty of money from all of the people desperate NOT to be stuck on Obamacide). I told a client today "If you want a group plan, stay where you're at. If you want ACA, it'll be $X for this coverage, or, since you're in good health, if you apply for an underwritten plan it's be $Y (much less that X or his group, FTR). Which do you want?". He then choses, If he chooses A, we shake hands and part as friends, B and I'll show him how to sign up and help him do it, C and I make money.

Good thing C is much more attractive than A or B, innit? (It really, really is, BTW).

Posted by: Weirddave at January 28, 2015 12:55 AM (WvS3w)

465 I'm looking for a quality supplier of roofies. Can a Moron help a guy out?

Posted by: Bill Cosby at January 28, 2015 12:57 AM (WbRgK)

466 Rickl sociopaths are good at reading people !

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 28, 2015 12:59 AM (dULJN)

467 Rickl sociopaths are good at reading people !

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 28, 2015 12:59 AM (dULJN)

468 Jim - Ever do a slate roof?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2015 01:00 AM (l1zOH)

469 Nite,Morons.,be well,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 28, 2015 01:00 AM (u/Asb)

470 Nite MH

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2015 01:01 AM (l1zOH)

471 A few weeks ago for relaxation I re-read Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six, and cringed when the central character refers to a Brit with the given name of "Alistair" as "Al."

Posted by: Jay Guevara

Well, Alistair Ian Stewart goes by "Al", but that's his own choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvccz7UvS1U
Posted by: rickl


Actual, can you confirm kill?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 28, 2015 01:02 AM (Zi7PZ)

472 MH. Too right. Not every claim is a whole new roof.

Other side of the coin. It'd sicken you to see how many adjusters out there work by rote formula, and never really fully AUDIT the roof they're on.

Or, if from storm damage, to walk the entire property for ancillary claims, anything from broken windows, shredded screens, busted window beading.

We've had some fun ones though. April '13 hailstorm in Hitchcock, TX. 4" dia. hard, clear hail. Fully penetrated many roofs in the area. Destroyed (outright) 9 of the 11 Hitchcock PD cars. Killed at least one horse and three head of cattle. Stripped bark from trees, and even shot-peened several driveways to the point of total loss.

That's when adjusters earn their pay, in every respectful sense of the word. Sixteen hour days, unimaginable scopes of loss. Just BURIED in paperwork.

That's when a good roofer and an honest adjuster make a good partnership. I can mark and measure a ton of damage, while you're busy making notes and taking photos. Plus, I'll e mail you our Eagle View files, so that's one less thing you have to chase down.

Who benefits? The homeowner, always. If we do our job right, that's the goal.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 28, 2015 01:02 AM (RzZOc)

473 Mike Hammer. Yessir. Slate, tile, metal (all kinds). I think the only roof we don't do, is thatch.

But if you got the money to spend, I can get the guys from the U.K. over on the next plane, and Bob's yer Uncle, there's yer thatch roof!

(even though it won't meet any US code or get a warranty, etc., all standard disclaimers apply ;-) )



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 28, 2015 01:05 AM (RzZOc)

474 1. all the faces were white
2. wrinkles distorts the expression (can't see whole face)
3. pictures were terrible; blurred, too dark.
4. I'm a psychopath I guess.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 28, 2015 01:06 AM (RZzX3)

475 Comparing notes would be fun. From all indications
you are a rare gem in the roofing world. As an insurance adjuster big
fines for us caught dealing with unfair claim practices.



1/2 of your roof shot from a tree limb. Will fix the hole(s) replace
a slope of new lkq shingles, new drip edge, vents if necessary.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 28, 2015 12:54 AM (u/Asb)


A few years back, my home got hit by a massive hailstorm. Wrecked the asphalt shingles on both the house and garage, and punched golf-ball sized holes in the vinyl siding on both buildings as well. Also scarred up teh wood siding on the lower part of the house walls. Insurance company settled for about $13,000, and I put in another 12 G's, and did the roof in metal on both house and garage, and did both buildings in stucco, with a layer of foil-backed bubble plastic under the stucco wire for a touch of extra insulation. Maintenance-free, woo-hoo!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2015 01:08 AM (upitO)

476 Alberta..... vinyl siding is from the debbil. *shudder*

Wise route on the metal and stucco. My house's siding is 100% Hardi Plank.

Had ZERO wind damage from Hurricane Ike. Flood damage? Over $50k. Took me a year n a half to rebuild. It's a show place now, though.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 28, 2015 01:12 AM (RzZOc)

477 Yes, the American public is stupid.

You know who else is stupid - irredeemably fucking stupid? Scientists. Those fuckers who gave us asbestos. Those fuckers who keep promising to cure cancer while they blithely create more and more causes of cancer every day.

Do I trust GMOs? Hell, no. It's asbestos times a million, and it's in the food chain.

Posted by: RKae at January 28, 2015 01:13 AM (AyfF7)

478 rickl:

Al Stewart is the best damned songwriter to ever breathe air on this planet.

Just a mention of him in a comments section gives me chills.

Posted by: RKae at January 28, 2015 01:14 AM (AyfF7)

479 You know who else is stupid - irredeemably fucking stupid? Scientists. Those fuckers who gave us asbestos.

Asbestos actually did what it was claimed to do, at least

Those fuckers who keep promising to cure cancer while they blithely create more and more causes of cancer every day.

Do I trust GMOs? Hell, no. It's asbestos times a million, and it's in the food chain.
Posted by: RKae at January 28, 2015 01:13 AM (AyfF7)


Golden rice has saved millions upon millions of lives.

Posted by: The Scientific Hat at January 28, 2015 01:15 AM (0Ew3K)

480 Do I trust GMOs? Hell, no. It's asbestos times a million, and it's in the food chain.

Posted by: RKae at January 28, 2015 01:13 AM (AyfF7)


"Scientists" didn't give us asbestos. It comes from mines, and has been known since antiquity. And it is perfectly safe if you don't make habit of inhaling the short-fiber form of it on a daily basis, and are also a tobacco smoker. Both asbestos and GMO foods have been victimized by moral panics started by people who stand to profit from the alternatives.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2015 01:19 AM (upitO)

481 I had my roof replaced in 2005. A couple of weeks ago I got a letter in the mail about a class action settlement for defective GAF Timberline shingles manufactured between 1998 and 2009.

I have no complaints about my shingles, so I'm not inclined to do anything with this letter. Still, it seems unsettling. Anybody know anything about this? Jim?

Posted by: rickl at January 28, 2015 01:19 AM (sdi6R)

482 477 Yes, the American public is stupid.

You know who else is stupid - irredeemably fucking stupid? Scientists. Those fuckers who gave us asbestos. Those fuckers who keep promising to cure cancer while they blithely create more and more causes of cancer every day.

Do I trust GMOs? Hell, no. It's asbestos times a million, and it's in the food chain.
Posted by: RKae at January 28, 2015 01:13 AM (AyfF7)


Like those that think organics are healthier and taste better.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at January 28, 2015 01:21 AM (+Fae7)

483 Down with Gregor Mendel! The father of GMOs!

Posted by: buzzion at January 28, 2015 01:22 AM (zt+N6)

484 This is why uneducated common people cannot be trusted to make decisions. They are stupid and make the wrong ones. That is why governmental power belongs in the hands of an elite multinational few, those who have moved past war and racism, those committed to social and economic justice, and redistribution of the world's scarce resources that were stolen and destroyed by colonialists and robber baron capitalists. Big multinational corporations that make money for Zionist bankers and the Wall Street machine through illegal wars against brown people must be destroyed. There must be justice for the Palestinians and destruction of cisgender-normative patriarchal structures of oppression.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at January 28, 2015 01:24 AM (2o+o7)

485 There is not an ear of corn on the consumer market that's not a GMO product.

Maybe some wayside farmer's markets will have the small, multihued "Indian corn", but there is not, and never can be, enough of that grown for the U.S. food market.

Most every fruit out there is a hybrid. Old tech GMO, via splicing cuttings and seedlings over generations.

Hell, every recognized breed of cattle exists due to selective breeding, which is also a low tech form of GMO.

Funny looking, useless breeds of dogs? Same, same and more of the same.

Most "as nature made em" strains of vegetables, are so small, irregular in size and un-reliable in growth, season, yield and cultivation, as to be commercially impossible to pursue.

Science ain't perfect. But neither is being a caveman.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


P.S. Asbestos is found in nature, it's simply a mineral extraction process. And, when sealed into a matrix, like wrapped-pipe insulation under casing, it's 100% harmless, unless and until someone hits it with a sander or grinder.

Asbestos was mostly harmful when it was used like fiberglass mat, wrapping pipes without a seal coat...and it did the most harm as brake pads.....that brake dust was the real hazard to your local mechanic.

Yeah, it needed to be retired as an industrial material. But, it's risks were, are and have been FAR exaggerated by the Class Action Crowd.

An asbestos tile roof can last for LITERALLY forever. Only hail and hurricanes end their useful life.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 28, 2015 01:26 AM (RzZOc)

486 477
Yes, the American public is stupid.



You know who else is stupid - irredeemably fucking stupid?
Scientists. Those fuckers who gave us asbestos. Those fuckers who keep
promising to cure cancer while they blithely create more and more causes
of cancer every day.



Do I trust GMOs? Hell, no. It's asbestos times a million, and it's in the food chain.

Posted by: RKae at January 28, 2015 01:13 AM (AyfF7)


Genes get tossed around all the time, and have been since bacteria were the dominant life-form on the planet.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 01:26 AM (T1005)

487 rickl. E mail me. It's in my nic. I know about it, and I'll get with you later tomorrow to fill you in.

It's a very specific and restrictive settlement. Only certain batches of shingles, from certain plants, in certain time frames.

We don't sell the GAF Timberline product, unless a customer specifies it. It's the No. 1 seller in the U.S., but it's not the best shingle. Doesn't suck, but it's not the BEST, either.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 28, 2015 01:28 AM (RzZOc)

488
OK, my ignorance of PC tech is inexcusable, but .....

A horde-sourced stupid question: my laptop has in recent weeks begun to be very noisy, specifically what sounds like a fan whirring on the left side towards the back (there is a vent there, I can feel heat coming out). At first - it seemed - this was associated with graphics-rich sites or video. Now it has become almost constant, even during start-up.

Over-heating drive or other component? Failing fan?

The noise situation is, to use the word properly, unsustainable. Any ideas?

Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2015 01:29 AM (afQnV)

489 Asbestos . Don't believe the hype.

Posted by: Garrett at January 28, 2015 01:30 AM (bsFjT)

490 And Humans have been fucking with the genetics of our food since we stopped living as hunter gatherers.

Your favorite breed of dog is a GMO.

Posted by: Garrett at January 28, 2015 01:32 AM (bsFjT)

491 rhomboid, how old is the laptop?

My hunch: you need to replace the fan, power supply and/or hard drive.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2015 01:32 AM (elbY7)

492 The noise situation is, to use the word properly, unsustainable. Any ideas?
Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2015 01:29 AM (afQnV)


Could be accumulated dust causing the fan to be turned on all the time. Try blowing out the intake and output vent with some compressed air. You'll be amazed at the cloud of dust that will appear.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 28, 2015 01:33 AM (wqVD1)

493 >>The noise situation is, to use the word properly, unsustainable. Any ideas?

Sounds to me that it's possessed by an agent of Satan. I would drown it in the tub.

Can't be too safe.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 28, 2015 01:33 AM (g1DWB)

494 Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2015 01:29 AM (afQnV)

The fan could be failing, but since you mentioned that the fan originally went to 11 over intensive use activities, then perhaps the laptop is just getting old?

What is the age/make of your laptop?

Posted by: The Whirring Hat at January 28, 2015 01:33 AM (0Ew3K)

495 Rhomboid - Sounds like your computer is tired of the same old pron. Mix it up a bit.
Midgets, Trannys, Midget Trannys.
That should fix it.

Posted by: Garrett at January 28, 2015 01:35 AM (bsFjT)

496 Your favorite breed of dog is a GMO.

Posted by: Garrett at January 28, 2015 AM (bsFjT)


My favorite breed of dog is Medium Rare!

Posted by: Barky Obummer at January 28, 2015 01:36 AM (RzZOc)

497 So, just dealing with a bit of random whatever.....



TJs has these premade croissants -- almond or chocolate -- where they sell 'em frozen, you slap 'em on a cookie sheet the night before to rise, and you bake 'em in the morning.




Only problem is, the fiancee put 'em in the fridge and the packages are exploding.




Just for fun, I'm going to attempt to bake the almond ones tonight

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 01:36 AM (T1005)

498 Well, Jim, I'd take issue with asbestos needing to be retired. All that was really needed was to take better precautions in the handling and use of it. More people have died from mis-handling gasoline than ever got cancer from asbestos. And the biggest cohort of asbestos-related cancers was from the ship-building industry circa WWII, when they were spraying asbestos insulation on pipes wholesale. And I would be willing to bet that most of those workers also smoked cigarettes, because most people did, back then. The combination of tobacco and asbestos is more deadly than the sum of its parts.


Hell, I worked as an auto mechanic for over a decade, and routinely blew out brake dust with compressed air. And before that, I worked for 2 years in a boat yard, and we used "loon shit" for deck repairs and such. Asbestos "shorts" mixed with fiberglass resin. Sets up like rock. Then we'd use an 80-grit disc on the angle grinder to smooth it off. I should be dead twice over now, according to the asbestos scaremongers. But I didn't smoke.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2015 01:36 AM (upitO)

499 Need a big pile of cash quick?

Dial 1-800-MESOTHELIOMA!!!!!1!!

Posted by: Mr. Daytime TV Lawyer at January 28, 2015 01:38 AM (elbY7)

500 Garrett nailed it.

One of your tranny midges tried to escape their pron shot and got stuck in the fan.

It's probaby shredded to itty bitty pieces of midge flesh by now.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2015 01:39 AM (elbY7)

501 Alberta, fully agreed, and I clearly overstated the case. That said, it's still bad juju to certain biological types, just like so many other compounds.

That's something that medicine fails badly at, thus far. Why certain lineages, say, Scandis for example, can smoke like chimneys into their 90s, with rare ill effects, but let's say for illustration, that people of Greek lineage are cancer bombs waiting to explode in their mid 40s.

Asbestos I'm sure, is much the same. Some genetic makeups will just shrug it off. Others, find it the carcinogenic irritant that the labs say it is, and mutate accordingly.

Whatever the degree, it's not universal to every person.

So yeah, it's a good mineral, and if it's brought back, it should be very carefully thought out as a process. I do think the gains outweigh the risk, but the risk is above zero.

Fair enough?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Barky Obummer at January 28, 2015 01:43 AM (RzZOc)

502 Dammit! Sock fail. *blush*

Posted by: Jim at January 28, 2015 01:44 AM (RzZOc)

503 Ah well. I'm past my Sell By date, tonight.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 28, 2015 01:46 AM (RzZOc)

504 It's not the asbestos, it's the bad clams that will get you.

Posted by: Michael Douglas at January 28, 2015 01:47 AM (bsFjT)

505 It's not the asbestos, it's the bad clams that will get you.

Posted by: Michael Douglas at January 28, 2015 01:47 AM (bsFjT)


It's... the salmon mousse!

Posted by: Death from "Meaning of Life" at January 28, 2015 01:47 AM (0Ew3K)

506 Over-heating drive or other component? Failing fan?

The noise situation is, to use the word properly, unsustainable. Any ideas?


Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2015 01:29 AM (afQnV)


Fan bearing going out...

Replace it as soon as possible because once you start to get actual overheat problems, it can cook other components.

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 28, 2015 01:47 AM (qh617)

507
Garrett's suggestion is the most insightful, Jack's is the most interesting, but think I'll go with Maet's first ..... take the can of compressed air I've been using to clean up the reloading press (Silhouette's a great 9mm powder, but so fine it ends up coating everything) and clear out the vents.

Laptop is not new. I'd say 5 years old? Asus. Very nice, does what I need (very low end user ..... uh, aside from all the porn, as Garrett astutely guessed, and qdpsteve seconded). No gaming, rarely much video (though it did stream the Winter Olympics just fine).

Asa notoriously cheap b*st*rd - on certain things - I'd love to keep using this machine, as there's no particular need for a new one.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2015 01:48 AM (afQnV)

508 So yeah, it's a good mineral, and if it's brought back, it should be
very carefully thought out as a process. I do think the gains outweigh
the risk, but the risk is above zero.



Fair enough?





Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX


Agree 100%. There's no question that prolonged exposure to airborne short-fiber asbestos can cause cancer in susceptible individuals. There are many other chemicals and natural substances in commerce that can be equally hazardous. The answer is not to ban their use, but to develop procedures to use them safely. And to educate people on how to understand and evaluate risk. As a society, we are becoming so risk-averse that we are stifling innovation.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2015 01:50 AM (upitO)

509
Thanks, BB Wolf. Think I'll try Maet's air-blast cleaning suggestion, and if no happiness I'll actually (shudder) take it to somebody and (cringe) pay them to fix it or talk me into replacing it.

The whole time being mindful to avoid the asbestos. And the GMOs. And, above all, the asbestos-containing GMOs.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2015 01:52 AM (afQnV)

510 506
Over-heating drive or other component? Failing fan?



The noise situation is, to use the word properly, unsustainable. Any ideas?





Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2015 01:29 AM (afQnV)





Fan bearing going out...



Replace it as soon as possible because once you start to get actual overheat problems, it can cook other components.

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 28, 2015 01:47 AM (qh617)


Step 1 -- Disassemble and clean everything. Run for a bit. If it still exhibits the problem, go to Step 2.

Step 2 -- Fan bearings sound like a good guess -- replace the fan. Run for a bit. If it still exhibits the problem, go to step 3.....

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 01:52 AM (T1005)

511 >>Garrett's suggestion is the most insightful, Jack's is the most interesting

Mock me if you must. But you'll see.

Your laptop is clearly trying to kill you. I wash my hands of this matter.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 28, 2015 01:53 AM (g1DWB)

512 Rhomboid, just went through the same thing with an aging HP laptop. Anything video intensive would shut it down. I suspect that the graphics chip was going, but I didn't do anything to confirm that. Cleaning it out would be helpful, but I said screw it and bought a new laptop.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 28, 2015 01:53 AM (vVSOO)

513 509

Thanks, BB Wolf. Think I'll try Maet's air-blast cleaning
suggestion, and if no happiness I'll actually (shudder) take it to
somebody and (cringe) pay them to fix it or talk me into replacing it.

The whole time being mindful to avoid the asbestos. And the GMOs. And, above all, the asbestos-containing GMOs.


Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2015 01:52 AM (afQnV)


Be especially wary of the smoking asbestos-containing GMOs.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 01:54 AM (T1005)

514 Step 2 -- Fan bearings sound like a good guess --
replace the fan. Run for a bit. If it still exhibits the problem, go to
step 3.....


Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 01:52 AM (T1005)


On my desktop, the fan bearings periodically get noisy, and I take the fans out, peel off the sticker covering the bearing, and give it a shot of light machine oil. Good for another 2 years of silent operation. But laptops are such a PITA to take apart, I'd lean toward simply replacing the fan. And if you are that far into it, add as much memory as you can.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2015 01:56 AM (upitO)

515 Rhomboid, just went through the same thing with an aging HP laptop. Anything video intensive would shut it down. I suspect that the graphics chip was going, but I didn't do anything to confirm that. Cleaning it out would be helpful, but I said screw it and bought a new laptop.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 28, 2015 01:53 AM (vVSOO)


Also, if your laptop allows for upgrading the RAM, do it.

I've always found that RAM is the limiting factor.

Posted by: Death from at January 28, 2015 01:59 AM (0Ew3K)

516
AOP, amen a thousand times (re risk aversion, bans vs. management).

Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2015 02:01 AM (afQnV)

517 Islamic Tribunal Confirmed in Texas

http://bit.ly/1Hasuz7

Posted by: The 10 Gallon Hat at January 28, 2015 02:03 AM (0Ew3K)

518 OT, but there is now a case in Denver. Cops were called for a suspicious car in an alley. A check of the license showed the car to be stolen so the cop called for back up. When they approached the car, the seventeen year old female driver used the car to hit one of the cops, fracturing his leg, and attempted to flee. The cops fired on the car, killing the driver, with three other people in the car. An Al Sharpton wannabe was on tv tonight screaming that this was just like Ferguson and NYC and demanding answers from the DA. They even brought out her cousin who was all butt hurt and angry that his criminal cousin was shot for trying to use the stolen car as a weapon was killed. It was all I could do to keep from throwing something through the tv set. You're driving a stolen car. You use said car to try to kill a cop to get away. You get your happy ass capped for said stupidity. Did you really expect a different result? F*ck those people and the horse they rode in on. I have no sympathy.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 28, 2015 02:05 AM (vVSOO)

519 Death has a good point on the RAM. If you can bump that up, do it.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 28, 2015 02:07 AM (vVSOO)

520 Did I really polish off an entire 18 inch pizza in the last few hours? I hope that there were no GMOs in that pepperoni.

Posted by: shredded chi at January 28, 2015 02:07 AM (3uV3Z)

521 Even at Fox News more employees donate money to the Democrats.
http://danfrank.ca/?p=264

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 28, 2015 02:08 AM (ZPrif)

522 OT, but there is now a case in Denver. Cops were called for a suspicious car in an alley. A check of the license showed the car to be stolen so the cop called for back up. When they approached the car, the seventeen year old female driver used the car to hit one of the cops, fracturing his leg, and attempted to flee. The cops fired on the car, killing the driver, with three other people in the car. An Al Sharpton wannabe was on tv tonight screaming that this was just like Ferguson and NYC and demanding answers from the DA. They even brought out her cousin who was all butt hurt and angry that his criminal cousin was shot for trying to use the stolen car as a weapon was killed. It was all I could do to keep from throwing something through the tv set. You're driving a stolen car. You use said car to try to kill a cop to get away. You get your happy ass capped for said stupidity. Did you really expect a different result? F*ck those people and the horse they rode in on. I have no sympathy.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 28, 2015 02:05 AM (vVSOO)


All the cops are criminals
All the sinners saints

I'm in need of some restraint:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkXIYgsvO0c

Posted by: Lucifer at January 28, 2015 02:09 AM (0Ew3K)

523 Well, time for me to hit the sack. I realize there is a risk that I could fall out of bed and conk my head on the asbestos-tile floor, but if I stay in my chair in front of the computer, I will fall asleep here, and might fall 2 feet further, and conk my head worse. And have a stiff neck, too. So, balancing risks and benefits, it looks like the bed wins out. Night, good people.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2015 02:09 AM (upitO)

524 Good Night AOP! And no noggin bonkin

Posted by: Old Blue at January 28, 2015 02:10 AM (vVSOO)

525 Old Blue - the Latino teenager chick, right?
I read about that earlier. I remember reading something about "bumping into" the cop, but didn't know she hit him hard e nought to break his leg.

Posted by: shredded chi at January 28, 2015 02:11 AM (3uV3Z)

526 OT, but there is now a case in Denver. Cops were called for a suspicious car in an alley. A check of the license showed the car to be stolen so the cop called for back up. When they approached the car, the seventeen year old female driver used the car to hit one of the cops, fracturing his leg, and attempted to flee. The cops fired on the car, killing the driver, with three other people in the car. An Al Sharpton wannabe was on tv tonight screaming that this was just like Ferguson and NYC and demanding answers from the DA. They even brought out her cousin who was all butt hurt and angry that his criminal cousin was shot for trying to use the stolen car as a weapon was killed. It was all I could do to keep from throwing something through the tv set. You're driving a stolen car. You use said car to try to kill a cop to get away. You get your happy ass capped for said stupidity. Did you really expect a different result? F*ck those people and the horse they rode in on. I have no sympathy.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 28, 2015 02:05 AM (vVSOO)


An example of the "outrage": http://bit.ly/1uzFJOZ

Some reality to assure you that not all of humanity is idiotic: http://redd.it/2twlqr

Posted by: The Cops' Hat at January 28, 2015 02:12 AM (0Ew3K)

527 I'm outa here my self. Have a great night Morons!

Posted by: Old Blue at January 28, 2015 02:12 AM (vVSOO)

528 So I just found out Miss Colombia won Miss Universe.

Don't think she made herself any more popular when she got the news however. Reportedly, the first words out of her mouth were "free coke for everyone!!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2015 02:12 AM (elbY7)

529 520,

Did it have anchovies? Mmmmmm!

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 28, 2015 02:12 AM (OsWis)

530 Good data and charts.

The only major media outlet that is close to 50-50 is FoxNews -- which gives 55% of it's money to Democrats.

CNN and USA Today give 70%. MSNBC gives 85%. NYT 95%. Rolling Stone 100%.

Support For The Democratic Party In The American Media
http://danfrank.ca/?p=264

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 28, 2015 02:13 AM (ZPrif)

531 Michael Moore's logic is that you're a coward if you have an advantage over your enemy.

Too bad for his uncle but war is ugly, it isn't a fencing match, and no amount of his bellyaching is going to fix that.

Posted by: fb at January 28, 2015 02:15 AM (CF/mt)

532 WSJ gives about 70% to Democrats. There's literally not a single major media organization that contributes more to Republicans than Democrats.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 28, 2015 02:15 AM (ZPrif)

533 shredded chi: saw your note about running high-end stores.

How many black Amex cards did you see? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2015 02:17 AM (elbY7)

534 520
Did I really polish off an entire 18 inch pizza in the last few hours? I hope that there were no GMOs in that pepperoni.

Posted by: shredded chi at January 28, 2015 02:07 AM (3uV3Z)


GMOs? You should be worrying about DNA!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 02:19 AM (T1005)

535 It's... the salmon mousse!
Posted by: Death from "Meaning of Life" at January 28, 2015 01:47 AM (0Ew3K)

Do I really gotta say this?

A salmon is a fish.

A mousse is an ungulate. And it's spelled "moose." Singular and plural. You can't have mooses. Only moose.

Sheesh, people. You don't have to be in Alaska to know this.

Posted by: tcn in AK, for reals, for good! at January 28, 2015 02:20 AM (+YMhA)

536 529
Gross! No!
(I tried them on half a pizza once - had to throw the whole thing out, and the house stunk for two days)

This was supposed to be dinner, then lunch for tomorrow...
I did slice up some of my feta stuffed olives & put them on a couple pieces, though. Thanks.

Posted by: shredded chi at January 28, 2015 02:20 AM (3uV3Z)

537 Hat, it wasn't even reported in the local new what her orientation was. I just figured that if you're in a stolen car, you use said car as a deadly weapon, and you get your happy ass shot by a cop, then you deserve the fate. Hell, if I was armed and some shit heel tried to kill me with their car, you can bet your bottom dollar that I would blow you up.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 28, 2015 02:21 AM (vVSOO)

538 531 Michael Moore's logic is that you're a coward if you have an advantage over your enemy.

Too bad for his uncle but war is ugly, it isn't a fencing match, and no amount of his bellyaching is going to fix that.
Posted by: fb at January 28, 2015 02:15 AM (CF/mt)

No, Michael Moore's logic is that if he says something outrageous, people will notice his sorry lard ass again. I think that's about the extent of it, really.

Posted by: tcn in AK, for reals, for good! at January 28, 2015 02:21 AM (+YMhA)

539 You can't have mooses. Only moose.

Sez you!

Posted by: Ed Meese at January 28, 2015 02:22 AM (elbY7)

540 If you want a knowledgeable opinion, go to someone knowledgeable.

If you want to be eaten alive, coat yourself in chocolate* and go to Michael Moore.

(*Optional. Moore can and will eat anything, even if it's completely covered in moose dung.)

Posted by: Ed Meese at January 28, 2015 02:24 AM (elbY7)

541 my bed is calling me...laters y'all.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 28, 2015 02:24 AM (OsWis)

542 Off sock!!!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2015 02:24 AM (elbY7)

543 Now playing on WMGK--The Zombies, Time of the Season

Never get tired of this song

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 02:25 AM (WUYpW)

544 G'night, Ma'am.

Posted by: shredded chi at January 28, 2015 02:26 AM (3uV3Z)

545 541
my bed is calling me...laters y'all.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at January 28, 2015 02:24 AM (OsWis)



I've never had that particular hallucination....

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 02:26 AM (T1005)

546 Do I really gotta say this?

A salmon is a fish.

A mousse is an ungulate. And it's spelled "moose." Singular and plural. You can't have mooses. Only moose.

Sheesh, people. You don't have to be in Alaska to know this.

Posted by: tcn in AK, for reals, for good! at January 28, 2015 02:20 AM (+YMhA)


No Christmas in Heaven for you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmZYIyySxPE

Posted by: Death at January 28, 2015 02:27 AM (0Ew3K)

547 Beds can call people?

"Psst! I have bedbugs!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2015 02:27 AM (elbY7)

548

No, Michael Moore's logic is that if he says something outrageous, people will notice his sorry lard ass again. since he's invaded so many buffets, engaged so many chicken wings in hand-to-hand combat, and indian-wrestled entire chocolate mousses down his well-muscled throat (AND without using firearms!!), he's entitled to decide what is brave and what is not.

He has a Goiter, Class III, to prove it.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 28, 2015 02:27 AM (FlRtG)

549 He has a Goiter, Class III, to prove it.
Posted by: Arbalest at January 28, 2015 02:27 AM (FlRtG)

More like the Purple Heartburn and Silver Star Buffet with Maalox cluster...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 02:30 AM (WUYpW)

550

Conservative Crank:

I'm not an MD, and I can't fake it, but I put money that somewhere, under all that neckfat, his thyroid is grossly twisted and overgrown.

Now all we need to do is get an impartial 3rd party to check.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 28, 2015 02:34 AM (FlRtG)

551 I wonder how much the surveys of the media are skewed by them being predominantly located in big cities where if they give money, the only choice is to give to a Democrat. So the spouse or GF drags you to a fundraiser with everyone else you know and you have to write a check. I'm certain they're all still libs, of course -- that goes with the media/entertainment territory -- but some of those contributions may not be fully voluntary, IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 28, 2015 02:36 AM (5f5bM)

552 I'm not an MD, and I can't fake it, but I put money that somewhere, under all that neckfat, his thyroid is grossly twisted and overgrown. Now all we need to do is get an impartial 3rd party to check.
Posted by: Arbalest at January 28, 2015 02:34 AM (FlRtG)

I'm sure his thyroid gave up the ghost a long time ago--though you could be right and it may be the size of a small roaster--or as he calls it, a singlehors d'oerve...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 02:37 AM (WUYpW)

553 "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV!!"

And on that note folks, gotta call it a night. Thanks once again for even more great chat.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2015 02:39 AM (elbY7)

554 Now all we need to do is get an impartial 3rd party to check.



Posted by: Arbalest at January 28, 2015 02:34 AM (FlRtG)

=====that would mean someone would have to do close proximity and maybe even touch the scuzbag. That's a lot to ask unless you have an enemy in mind.

Posted by: jc at January 28, 2015 02:41 AM (iRJ+A)

555

Burnt-out thyroid + pushing Greek Socialist spending theories ... he must be a Crete-ian.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 28, 2015 02:44 AM (FlRtG)

556 I just got an announcement that the Stanford Savoyards are putting on the Yeoman of the Guard. Oddly enough, I have never seen this operetta.



This may be because I know it to be the only G+S operetta that is not a classical comedy.....and, BTW, the essential difference is --



In comedy, you have the old order. A new personage moves against it (the protagonist), it is resisted (by the antagonist), various gyrations ensue, and the end is found with some sort of reconciliation (very often a marriage).




In tragedy, you have the old order. A new personage moves against it (the protagonist), it is resisted (by
the antagonist), various gyrations ensue, and the end is found with death.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 02:44 AM (T1005)

557

that would mean someone would have to do close proximity and maybe even touch the scuzbag.

I have money on this so that cuts me out ... plus, I have an allergic reaction to the odor of skin-fold cheese.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 28, 2015 02:46 AM (FlRtG)

558 557




that would mean someone would have to do close proximity and maybe even touch the scuzbag.



I have money on this so that cuts me out ... plus, I have an allergic reaction to the odor of skin-fold cheese.



Posted by: Arbalest at January 28, 2015 02:46 AM (FlRtG)

=====well I ain't doing it. I have to eat again this month.

Posted by: jc at January 28, 2015 02:51 AM (iRJ+A)

559 Hey, jc -- had any recent wildlife encounters? And, on a related note, do you start nervously looking around for people speaking with bad accents when you see both moose and squirrel?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 02:53 AM (T1005)

560 Posted by: Arbalest at January 28, 2015 02:46 AM (FlRtG) =====well I ain't doing it. I have to eat again this month.
Posted by: jc at January 28, 2015 02:51 AM (iRJ+A)

So find someone who wants to do a 3 day crash diet--good way to get ketosis going if you want to go full Adkins.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 02:53 AM (WUYpW)

561 Just watched some of "Sons of Liberty". Sure, they probably have some inaccuracies, but it's inspiring to see the fight for freedom from tyranny.

Kids today need to be shown things like this, w/ the proviso it's fiction based on the truth. I suspect today they get very little of this.

Truly inspiring at times.

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2015 02:56 AM (o/90i)

562 561 Just watched some of "Sons of Liberty". Sure, they probably have some inaccuracies, but it's inspiring to see the fight for freedom from tyranny. Kids today need to be shown things like this, w/ the proviso it's fiction based on the truth. I suspect today they get very little of this. Truly inspiring at times.
Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2015 02:56 AM (o/90i)

No way, it's totes accurate. Next you'll be telling me that 300 took some license with the source material.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 02:57 AM (WUYpW)

563 559
Hey, jc -- had any recent wildlife encounters? And, on a related note,
do you start nervously looking around for people speaking with bad
accents when you see both moose and squirrel?


Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 02:53 AM (T1005)


=====I had an uncle who was a wonderful man. he taught Shakespeare. he also sounded exactly like Bullwinkle. you have not lived until you hear Shakespeare read by Bullwinkle. it has a charm all its own.
in addition to sounding like Bullwinkle he drove like Magoo. terrifying to ride anywhere with him. so, he took me and missus jc to NYC. that was a white-knuckle ride.
all the squirrels around here have bad accents, so it balances out.

Posted by: jc at January 28, 2015 02:58 AM (iRJ+A)

564 Hell, Farmer - I graduated HS in '85, and I got very little of it.
Today? They're probably taught that Rosa Parks was a Founding Mother...

Posted by: shredded chi at January 28, 2015 03:01 AM (3uV3Z)

565 Looks like Vegas is the only city with both In N' Out and White Castle.

Though I can't stand White Castle.

At lease we have the Hear Attack Grill.

Posted by: The Vegas Hat at January 28, 2015 03:02 AM (0Ew3K)

566 Hell, Farmer - I graduated HS in '85, and I got very little of it.
Today? They're probably taught that Rosa Parks was a Founding Mother...
Posted by: shredded chi at January 28, 2015 03:01 AM

I just recall reading a number of years ago that a history textbook for HS kids had something like 7 references to Harriet Tubman and 2 to George Washington! Might have been the book they taught you from.

Now get off my lawn, young'un.

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2015 03:06 AM (o/90i)

567
not all of humanity is idiotic

Posted by: The Cops' Hat at January 28, 2015 02:12 AM (0Ew3K)


Well that's comforting. Sort of.

Posted by: rickl at January 28, 2015 03:09 AM (sdi6R)

568 At lease we have the Hear Attack Grill.
Posted by: The Vegas Hat at January 28, 2015 03:02 AM

Wut? They yell at you so loud at the restaurant you go deaf?

What's that old casino downtown near the HAG, the Cortez? That was one kinda creepy place. Nice old-fashioned diner, but when I went to gamble sat at a blackjack table w/ a buncha derelicts/weirdos.

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2015 03:11 AM (o/90i)

569 At lease we have the Hear Attack Grill.
Posted by: The Vegas Hat at January 28, 2015 03:02 AM

Wut? They yell at you so loud at the restaurant you go deaf?

What's that old casino downtown near the HAG, the Cortez? That was one kinda creepy place. Nice old-fashioned diner, but when I went to gamble sat at a blackjack table w/ a buncha derelicts/weirdos.

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2015 03:11 AM (o/90i)


Heart Attack Grill.

Yet to go there. Only been downtown once in the past year.

Posted by: The Vegas Hat at January 28, 2015 03:12 AM (0Ew3K)

570 566
Hell, Farmer - I graduated HS in '85, and I got very little of it.

Today? They're probably taught that Rosa Parks was a Founding Mother...

Posted by: shredded chi at January 28, 2015 03:01 AM



I just recall reading a number of years ago that a history textbook
for HS kids had something like 7 references to Harriet Tubman and 2 to
George Washington! Might have been the book they taught you from.



Now get off my lawn, young'un.



Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2015 03:06 AM (o/90i)


Instapundit has long noted that sending your kids to public schools should qualify as child abuse.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 03:12 AM (T1005)

571 Instapundit has long noted that sending your kids to public schools should qualify as child abuse.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 03:12 AM (T1005)

Only because we have abdicated our responsibility as parents and an engaged community, and let a bunch of Pinkos dictate what our children will be taught indoctrinated with.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 03:16 AM (WUYpW)

572 The almond croissants were all glomped together for having tried to rise within a plastic wrap, so I'm baking them as a blob.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 03:16 AM (T1005)

573 Books?
When I went to school, we had to chisel out our own pieces of slate, press our own chalk out of talc that we mined with our bare hands, and we LIKED it.

Posted by: shredded chi at January 28, 2015 03:17 AM (3uV3Z)

574 > They have no class, and she has horrible taste.

Posted by: Tammy al Thor at January 27, 2015 11:59 PM (Pauop)

She stomps around with the grace of a long-haul driver that just jumped out of his semi cab, and -get outa the way- needs to take a shit.

Posted by: enough already at January 28, 2015 03:18 AM (OYS1F)

575 571
Instapundit has long noted that sending your kids to public schools should qualify as child abuse.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 03:12 AM (T1005)



Only because we have abdicated our responsibility as parents and an
engaged community, and let a bunch of Pinkos dictate what our children
will be taught indoctrinated with.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 03:16 AM (WUYpW)


Not so much......mostly because those folks who still care have yanked their own kids out and don't give a shit about the rest.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 03:18 AM (T1005)

576 So it's a croissant base monkey bread, if you added some cinnamon and molasses.

*Checks timing to get to cooth's by morning, curses*

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 03:18 AM (WUYpW)

577 572
The almond croissants were all glomped together for having tried to rise within a plastic wrap, so I'm baking them as a blob.


Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 03:16 AM (T1005)

====if you see Steve McQueen --- run and don't look back.

Posted by: jc at January 28, 2015 03:19 AM (iRJ+A)

578 ====if you see Steve McQueen --- run and don't look back.
Posted by: jc at January 28, 2015 03:19 AM (iRJ+A)

And if you find yourself suddenly alone, riding though golden fields in the warm sun, do not worry--for you are already dead!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 03:22 AM (WUYpW)

579 576
So it's a croissant base monkey bread, if you added some cinnamon and molasses.



*Checks timing to get to cooth's by morning, curses*

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 03:18 AM (WUYpW)


That's a best-case scenario. I flipped it over a bit ago, just because, and now I've just pulled it out.

Again, you have to start with "frozen things meant to rise overnight at room temperature, discovered in fridge exploding their packages". Your better bet would be to get some frozen almond croissants and FOLLOW THE REGULAR DIRECTIONS.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 03:27 AM (T1005)

580 By the way, I'd just like to point out again for the record that McKesson makes a horrific PoS EMR. I would wager that I've lost about 2 hours of productivity tonight alone from wrestling with this system.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 03:31 AM (WUYpW)

581 Night all.

Got a meeting before noon.

Here is "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun" performed live by Kylesa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr7JxZE6ePU

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2015 03:34 AM (0Ew3K)

582 580
By the way, I'd just like to point out again for the record that
McKesson makes a horrific PoS EMR. I would wager that I've lost about 2
hours of productivity tonight alone from wrestling with this system.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 03:31 AM (WUYpW)


Not to mention that you've now exposed confidential patient records to hacking....

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 03:49 AM (T1005)

583 More power to the hackers if they can actually make the system function to the level of even viewing everything consistently, much less adding new info.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 03:55 AM (WUYpW)

584 Honestly, PPACA contains so much concentrated Evil that I can't help but think of the end of Time Bandits when I think of it -- http://tinyurl.com/n8qjky5

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 03:58 AM (T1005)

585 583
More power to the hackers if they can actually make the system function
to the level of even viewing everything consistently, much less adding
new info.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 03:55 AM (WUYpW)


That's just McKesson implementation issues. Every one of Obamacare's 2500 pages contains nuclear-level evil, ethics violations, abrogation of responsibility, breach of fiduciary responsibility, graft, stupidity, corruption, or rights violations -- and many pages encompass more than one.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 04:02 AM (T1005)

586 I scored 28 of 36 after 1 beer and getting a bit impatient half way through. And I started to feel a bit creepy when the ladies all seemed "interested" or "flirtatious". Then again it said the pix were taken from British mags (80s/90s) so if they were from ads then that's not surprising.

While I can connect relatively quickly and easily with most people in conversation I've been told by my wife that I'm not the best reader of people.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at January 28, 2015 04:03 AM (YxaXw)

587 Part of the issue is a new release of the software--no idea what the improvements are but it's typical for Gremlins to gum up the works for a couple weeks.

The other is server reboots, which normally slows the system somewhat in the very early morning hours but was ridiculous tonight, up to 2-3 minutes to process a single click.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 04:06 AM (WUYpW)

588 Also, McKesson (and Paragon specifically) is an irredeemably flawed platform that they do not care about because their main source of income is in pharmacy software, I'm told.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 04:08 AM (WUYpW)

589 587
Part of the issue is a new release of the software--no idea what the
improvements are but it's typical for Gremlins to gum up the works for a
couple weeks.



The other is server reboots, which normally slows the system
somewhat in the very early morning hours but was ridiculous tonight, up
to 2-3 minutes to process a single click.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 04:06 AM (WUYpW)


Don't forget -- each "update" adds another financially lucrative level of spying and data-mining.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 04:10 AM (T1005)

590 Don't forget -- each "update" adds another financially lucrative level of spying and data-mining.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 04:10 AM (T1005)

Arguably the primary purpose of the EMR is the data mining, it sure hasn't decreased healthcare costs. Probably the reason why EPIC works so much better than the other systems was that the data mining was baked in for the initial build, rather than grafted on later.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 04:13 AM (WUYpW)

591
Not so much......mostly because those folks who still care have yanked their own kids out and don't give a shit about the rest.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 03:18 AM (T1005)
Not that we don't give a shit about the rest. We just followatrue libertarian process... we guide how our children are taught, they guide how theirs are taught. We truly wish that everyone would take their kids out of kiddie prison, but not going to force them to do so.

Posted by: PM Rich at January 28, 2015 04:18 AM (eEBON)

592 Damn, I hate how all of my formatting gets eaten on the first post of the day... every time

Posted by: PM Rich at January 28, 2015 04:19 AM (eEBON)

593 Over at Tepid Gas, Jazz Shaw had a piece about traffic cameras feeding databases where he rolled over on the issue. And I'm thinking -- stand up at a City Council meeting to oppose a development whose sponsors have pre-bribed the councilmen.....and get a raft of speeding tickets for the prior month, based on "camera X saw you at 11:18; camera Y saw you at 11:30; there is no legal path between X and Y that takes less than 12 minutes to traverse...."




We've already seen Joe the Plumber get publicly crucified for having asked a question on-camera. And citizens who argue for government within Constitutional limits subject to everything from stonewalling on non-profit status to OSHA audits.




And now, courtesy of the PPACA, we'll see anyone who embarrasses The Powers That Be will see his medical records selectively disclosed....'cause they'll already be electronic and likely "in the cloud."

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 04:27 AM (T1005)

594 592 Damn, I hate how all of my formatting gets eaten on the first post of the day... every time
Posted by: PM Rich at January 28, 2015 04:19 AM (eEBON)

Clearly the coffee isn't enough for your hamsters. Time to upgrade to meth.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 04:27 AM (WUYpW)

595
Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 04:27 AM (WUYpW)

LOL'd

Posted by: PM Rich at January 28, 2015 04:28 AM (eEBON)

596 591

Not so much......mostly because those folks who still care have yanked their own kids out and don't give a shit about the rest.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 03:18 AM (T1005)Not
that we don't give a shit about the rest. We just followatrue
libertarian process... we guide how our children are taught, they guide
how theirs are taught. We truly wish that everyone would take their kids
out of kiddie prison, but not going to force them to do so.

Posted by: PM Rich at January 28, 2015 04:18 AM (eEBON)


How 'bout, "care enough to lead by example and hope others are wise enough to do likewise."?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 04:28 AM (T1005)

597
Did that.
Homeschooled our daughter, and attempted to homeschool our niece and nephew.

The BIL and his ex, both so self centered that we couldn't get either one to care about what we were trying to teach or support us in our efforts. Kids recognized that and we ended up with 4 uncooperative people.

Posted by: PM Rich at January 28, 2015 04:33 AM (eEBON)

598 Greece. The patient is bleeding to death. Patient orders doctor to cut open another vein. That will fix the problem.

Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at January 28, 2015 04:36 AM (Vyg9x)

599 That's the one problem with let it burn in the public schools--too many parents are unable or unwilling to homeschool, and cannot afford private.

We tried homeschooling Mrs. Crank's niece, who only knew the meaning of the word "no" if it was paired with an expletive or a blow. Unless she was watched like a hawk every minute of the putative school day, she would lie about her work, try to evade the firewalls on the computer, etc. Even with constant observation, she still was unwilling to put in the work and would try to get us to do the work for her, no matter how many times we told her she had to do the work herself and we did. not. budge.

Of course, that experiment ended when she pulled a knife on Mrs. Crank and fetus. Was sent back to public school, failed practically every course, and was still advanced to the next grade because I suspect no one wants to deal with her.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 04:40 AM (WUYpW)

600 597

Did that.
Homeschooled our daughter, and attempted to homeschool our niece and nephew.

The
BIL and his ex, both so self centered that we couldn't get either one
to care about what we were trying to teach or support us in our efforts.
Kids recognized that and we ended up with 4 uncooperative people.

Posted by: PM Rich at January 28, 2015 04:33 AM (eEBON)


I'm sorry to hear that about your niece and nephew. Our godkids went through Waldorf schools.....which initially seemed a little too "touchy-feely/new-age" for my taste, but come with good endorsements and favorable tangible results.

What did your niece and nephew end up with?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 04:43 AM (T1005)

601 599
That's the one problem with let it burn in the public schools--too many
parents are unable or unwilling to homeschool, and cannot afford
private.



We tried homeschooling Mrs. Crank's niece, who only knew the meaning
of the word "no" if it was paired with an expletive or a blow. Unless
she was watched like a hawk every minute of the putative school day, she
would lie about her work, try to evade the firewalls on the computer,
etc. Even with constant observation, she still was unwilling to put in
the work and would try to get us to do the work for her, no matter how
many times we told her she had to do the work herself and we did. not.
budge.



Of course, that experiment ended when she pulled a knife on Mrs.
Crank and fetus. Was sent back to public school, failed practically
every course, and was still advanced to the next grade because I suspect
no one wants to deal with her.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 04:40 AM (WUYpW)


I remember the knife incident.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 04:44 AM (T1005)

602
Was sent back to public school, failed practically every course, and was still advanced to the next grade


I grew up in a school system (south GA) that was apparently light years ahead of the rest of the country concerning this pattern.
Saw many of the kids I grew up with that followed this same path through school .

Posted by: PM Rich at January 28, 2015 04:45 AM (eEBON)

603 I remember the knife incident.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 04:44 AM (T1005)

*shudders* me too.

If she tried that sh*t today, I'd put about a dozen smoking 9 mm holes in her.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 04:47 AM (WUYpW)

604
What did your niece and nephew end up with?

Back to local public school.

I should correct the "4 uncooperative people" to read "3 very uncooperative and 1 easily led down the wrong path"

The niece would do well with homeschool, especially so if you are able to separate her from her brother. But the parents won't allow just one of the kids to be homeschooled.

Posted by: PM Rich at January 28, 2015 04:50 AM (eEBON)

605 603
I remember the knife incident.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 04:44 AM (T1005)



*shudders* me too.



If she tried that sh*t today, I'd put about a dozen smoking 9 mm holes in her.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 04:47 AM (WUYpW)


There is a certain wry amusement that I remember it more forcefully today than if you would've ventilated her. Even though I am thankful that everyone is safe and sound, including the niece, it would have been successfully ended that way.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 05:07 AM (T1005)

606 604

What did your niece and nephew end up with?

Back to local public school.

I should correct the "4 uncooperative people" to read "3 very uncooperative and 1 easily led down the wrong path"

The
niece would do well with homeschool, especially so if you are able to
separate her from her brother. But the parents won't allow just one of
the kids to be homeschooled.

Posted by: PM Rich at January 28, 2015 04:50 AM (eEBON)


That's too bad -- the kids are missing out on a lot.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 05:09 AM (T1005)

607 In pictures you can see the crazy in the eyes--before I was willing to attribute it to a combo of meds and a suspicion of undiagnosed Asperger's, but now I'm convinced it's just crazy. While we had her committed to juvenile psych, we were meeting with the pshrink and she was trying to crawl onto me in a very sexual manner--I don't know that I've ever been more uncomfortable in my life.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 05:12 AM (WUYpW)

608 Just realized that with my hash "I be talkin all wrong n shit"

Posted by: PM Rich at January 28, 2015 05:15 AM (eEBON)

609 608 Just realized that with my hash "I be talkin all wrong n shit"
Posted by: PM Rich at January 28, 2015 05:15 AM (eEBON)

Cultural appropriation! Language privilege!

Sorry. Practicing for evading the camps.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 05:17 AM (WUYpW)

610 607
In pictures you can see the crazy in the eyes--before I was willing to
attribute it to a combo of meds and a suspicion of undiagnosed
Asperger's, but now I'm convinced it's just crazy. While we had her
committed to juvenile psych, we were meeting with the pshrink and she
was trying to crawl onto me in a very sexual manner--I don't know that
I've ever been more uncomfortable in my life.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 05:12 AM (WUYpW)


I've spent a rather large portion of my life around relations who -- at one time or other -- were under involuntary or semi-involuntary [rehab, etc.] mental care. [None of whom, thankfully, have pulled a knife -- that I'm aware of.]

There is a huge disconnect between going about your daily business and dealing with this, and it's very difficult to manage the transitions.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 05:28 AM (T1005)

611 public opinion is not rational, which is why our founders thought it best that we be a republic as opposed to a direct democracy. that being said, considering the current occupant of the White House, the parliamentary system is looking a hell of a lot better than ours right now. Perhaps the American public has indeed become so dumbed down that they can no longer be trusted to vote a responsible, competent president into office.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at January 28, 2015 05:31 AM (2/oBD)

612 609
608 Just realized that with my hash "I be talkin all wrong n shit"

Posted by: PM Rich at January 28, 2015 05:15 AM (eEBON)



Cultural appropriation! Language privilege!



Sorry. Practicing for evading the camps.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 05:17 AM (WUYpW)


Good luck with that. Mao had the physicians planting rice in the earliest stages of the Cultural Revolution.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 05:31 AM (T1005)

613 Wow... The droner was a drunken National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency employee...

Posted by: Baldy at January 28, 2015 05:37 AM (+35FH)

614 Good luck with that. Mao had the physicians planting rice in the earliest stages of the Cultural Revolution.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 05:31 AM (T1005)

Fortunately, I have yet to meet the SJW who has a fraction of the force of will of Mao.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 05:38 AM (WUYpW)

615 G'morning, all

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 28, 2015 05:54 AM (fL+1V)

616 Heya VIA

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 05:57 AM (WUYpW)

617 Urk.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2015 06:03 AM (T1005)

618 Gun control being popular in the mid '60s sorta omits the constant bombardment WRT JFK's martyrdom....

plus the hippies to be were just feeling their oats.

It takes a brave generation to try the "why not" that allows ingrates like me who study history to say "I've seen this movie before" and the '60s were up to the task.

No more liberals.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:06 AM (/4AZU)

619 Now that snowmageddon is a distant memory here, I think it will be a good day to visit the range.

And maybe do laundry.
But mostly, range day.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 28, 2015 06:07 AM (fL+1V)

620 614 Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 28, 2015 05:38 AM (WUYpW)

We don't get to meet Ayers, ValJar, or Soros....

611 Posted by: Mistress Overdone at January 28, 2015 05:31 AM (2/oBD)


I think in a Parliamentary system Nanny McRictus would be about the mean for Prime Minister....

Ponder that.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:08 AM (/4AZU)

621 Well...

http://tinyurl.com/pay8zkk

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2015 06:10 AM (+eQyZ)

622 621 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2015 06:10 AM (+eQyZ)

"two girls desperate for a prosthetic"

You stay up all night or you just running on a narrow sleep cycle Ms Puma?

I got 6 hours I feel swell

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:11 AM (/4AZU)

623 http://youtu.be/RSvoYf9Rvg8

Air Crash Investigation: The Death Of JFK Jnr (S14E06)

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:13 AM (/4AZU)

624 621 what is that? Dawn is breaking?

Posted by: freaked at January 28, 2015 06:13 AM (JdEZJ)

625 so evidently the BBC feels that JFK Jr was "one of the biggest names in America" and "a man MANY felt would be President"...

uh...

um

"really"

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:14 AM (/4AZU)

626 624 Posted by: freaked at January 28, 2015 06:13 AM (JdEZJ)

Dawn is at least proving she is a bendy...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:14 AM (/4AZU)

627 so JFK Jr had commonality with his father's life experiences....

b/c you learn WW2 by Osmosis...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:15 AM (/4AZU)

628 Well five hours is a bit slim. But not doing bad. And TCM decides to give the viewers three Bela Lugosi movies as morning fare...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2015 06:15 AM (+eQyZ)

629 More such photos - http://www.ufunk.net/photos/dancing-moments/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2015 06:16 AM (+eQyZ)

630 628 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2015 06:15 AM (+eQyZ)


rise and shine campers...and in the grim reality department we have Bela Lugosi in....

//TCM Dawn Patrol

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:17 AM (/4AZU)

631 629 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2015 06:16 AM (+eQyZ)

Eh....looks like action figure mayhem... I'll just keep limping.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:18 AM (/4AZU)

632 Three movies are - Bowery at Midnight, The Corpse Vanishes, and The Body Snatcher.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2015 06:20 AM (+eQyZ)

633 http://tinyurl.com/lb4vc2l

Tepid Gas- Seattle is Dumpster Diving to Slutshame and Fine Residents

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:20 AM (/4AZU)

634 So I the the new thing today is drunk droning. This will probably will end up gettting them regulated so much you will need a license and registration.

Posted by: freaked at January 28, 2015 06:20 AM (JdEZJ)

635 632 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2015 06:20 AM (+eQyZ)

He really is remembered only for a portion of his career...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:21 AM (/4AZU)

636 Was Lugosi in Dawn Patrol? Come to think of it with my sleep schedule lately that would be a good handle for me.

Posted by: freaked at January 28, 2015 06:23 AM (JdEZJ)

637 634 Posted by: freaked at January 28, 2015 06:20 AM (JdEZJ)

Government by its very nature attempts to suck the fun and freedom from any activity as soon as possible....

therefore ANY activity that brings joy with new technology that draws attention is a detrimental one on a long timeline.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:23 AM (/4AZU)

638 636 Posted by: freaked at January 28, 2015 06:23 AM (JdEZJ)

No "Dawn Patrol" was my feeble joke of TCM as morning drive show...

Lugosi was in "The Silent Command" which was sorta Navy pron from 1923.....

no not that kind of pron....it was about ships and danger....

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:26 AM (/4AZU)

639 and I awkwardly killed the thread...

*sad raccoon face*

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:29 AM (/4AZU)

640 or just fell prey to the pixie 9 minute time machine...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:30 AM (/4AZU)

641 Well I already learned something today. There were 2 Dawn Patrol movies 1930 and 38. I've seen the 38 one with Flynn but not the 1930 one with Fairbanks Jr.

Posted by: freaked at January 28, 2015 06:31 AM (JdEZJ)

642 so evidently this NTSB guy was troubled with his mission to reverse engineer JFK Jr's flying idiocy b/c "he saluted his dad's coffin"....

hey genius your mission is crash investigation not family ego control

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:32 AM (/4AZU)

643 TCM has shown in the past both Dawn Patrol movies.

Other Karloff movies - Isle of the Dead and Bedlam.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2015 06:33 AM (+eQyZ)

644 That should put a crimp in DeBolsheviks plans... the Snowbiggie cost the NYC economy $200 million

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2015 06:35 AM (+eQyZ)

645 Lefties are probably against fun and danger because lives are more important than ANYTHING! No sledding! No fast driving! Put that Valu-Rite down and eat your nutritious breakfast!

Posted by: MTF at January 28, 2015 06:35 AM (FCsIb)

646 641 Posted by: freaked at January 28, 2015 06:31 AM (JdEZJ)

Hell's Angels also had two releases....

it *really* is not Hollywood "getting lazy" so much as our generation was spared Hollywood's 8-15 year recycling efforts and been spoiled by the late 70s to early 90s.

Howard Hughes took his special effects seriously for the period.

Which means he was the Proto Lucas in a way... only with a lot more real life accomplishments and more overt crazy.

http://tinyurl.com/lqj4be7

Dawn Patrol 1930 En Espanol

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:35 AM (/4AZU)

647 645 Posted by: MTF at January 28, 2015 06:35 AM (FCsIb)

I'll put the Valu-rite IN my nutritious breakfast...

something has to make Grape Nuts more awesome...

The leftoids think your life is theirs b/c "we give you healthcare" and "you owe us taxes."

They really are slavemasters.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:37 AM (/4AZU)

648 For real fun, can always dig up the Mexican version of Dracula that was shot on the same sets as the one that made Lugosi famous.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2015 06:38 AM (+eQyZ)

649 so there it is....

finally the JFK jr fan has to accept...

no champ it was not the control surfaces...

it was NOT the instrumentation

John John seemed to think he was IFR rated with a VFR license....

He was a Kennedy and by God God's rules let alone the FAA's do NOT apply my friend.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 06:40 AM (/4AZU)

650 Corgis

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2015 06:41 AM (+eQyZ)

651 I am popping in with a prayer request. The former pastor of the church I am serving is making trouble for me by not understanding the nature of professional boundaries Some of these actions could what is termed "causing detriment to the ministry of another pastor." Unfortunately, this person is now retired and as lots of time to get involved in the life of this church where they had formerly served. Yay! :^( I would appreciate prayers that rough places be made smooth for me and that this person's life is so full and happy that they don't have to try to subtly or not so subtly undermine my efforts in this pastorate.

There is a spiritual lesson for me here. I get it, but it's not one of those lessons I particularly like to get Sigh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 28, 2015 06:44 AM (DXzRD)

652 For real fun, can always dig up the Mexican version of Dracula that was shot on the same sets as the one that made Lugosi famous.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2015 06:38 AM (+eQyZ)


http://goo.gl/eqb2PY

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2015 06:45 AM (zF6Iw)

653 Put that Valu-Rite down and eat your nutritious breakfast!

Posted by: MTF at January 28, 2015 06:35 AM (FCsIb)


The hell you say.

Second City 'Leave it To Beaver' parody.

http://tinyurl.com/k9a8hlh

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2015 06:47 AM (HN8v5)

654 the Snowbiggie

LOL; That's great.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 28, 2015 06:52 AM (DXzRD)

655 How many bad decisions did JFK Jr. make that day? One on top of another, just goes to show you be dumb as box and still obtain a Harvard education.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 28, 2015 07:03 AM (+ebSh)

656 just goes to show you be dumb as box and still obtain a Harvard education.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 28, 2015 07:03 AM (+ebSh)


And pass the bar on the third try.

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2015 07:12 AM (HN8v5)

657 655 Posted by: lowandslow at January 28, 2015 07:03 AM (+ebSh)

This episode is at risk of being a "Jump the Shark" episode....

evidently the ACI Astrally Projected Himself back through time to sit next to his boy crush....

go to 40:22....

I swear to God I expected Whoopi Goldberg tonguing Demi Moore stunt doubling as Patrick Swayze....

and yeah....

it *was* JFK jr's fault but the asshole wife didn't help with her "last minute shopping"...

"rules don't apply to me!"

//Kennedy

"Gravity kills"

//God

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 28, 2015 07:13 AM (/4AZU)

658 Wish I had seen all the roofing knowledge about six weeks ago. Total replacement including fifteen sheets of new decking.

At least the guy, a small local company, took very good care of me. I even pitched in on the work- I came up in a building family.

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at January 28, 2015 07:53 AM (a94gW)

659 Escort girls http://REGMODELS.RU

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