Blackmail: Openly Gay Legislator Threatens to Expose Colleagues' Extra-Marital Affairs if They Don't Vote Her Way on Gay Marriage

Were she just some sort of moral crusader who ran on a platform of righteous values and then went around exposing all such incidents she definitively knew of, that would be one thing. But this is a fit of pique stemming from her disagreement with the policy positions of opponents. She is claiming to be aware of these alleged cases of married legislators having affairs, but she is willing to continue to hold her silence about the sins provided they shut their mouths and don’t speak out on issues where she disagrees with them. If she was such a moral crusader who felt this information was important to the public she should have already exposed them, regardless of party affiliation or sexual orientation. (Yes, gay people can be unfaithful too.) But that's not what she's doing. What’s going on here is known by a much more ugly word: extortion.

Yeah, people generally don't seem to understand what blackmail is. You're allowed to reveal someone's secrets -- there is no law against that. The media does that, of course, every day.

It becomes blackmail -- and criminal -- when you threaten to reveal secrets unless the target either takes an action you demand or refrains from taking an action you demand. The demand does not need to be for money (in most jurisdictions); obviously, a particularly nasty form of blackmail -- sexual blackmail -- demands not money but sexual favors.

Posted by: Ace at 11:59 AM

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1 yeah...IF...she was a conservative. Laws don't apply to libs or their sponsors.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 27, 2015 12:00 PM (3g9q6)

2 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 12:01 PM (kff5f)

3 you know, for example, if she were a governor of a major state who threatened his veto power over a drunken sow's position, that would be:

1. duh, normal executive power for a democrat.

or

2. impeachable, jailable offense for a GOP 2016 potential presidential candidate.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 27, 2015 12:02 PM (3g9q6)

4 I'll get the others.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 12:02 PM (kff5f)

5 Great. Blackmail.

So she's being prosecuted..... right?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2015 12:02 PM (TOk1P)

6 "by whatever means necessary" is the position of an esteemed person here.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 27, 2015 12:03 PM (/4AZU)

7 If only we had some sort of law against blackmail...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 27, 2015 12:03 PM (0HooB)

8 5 Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2015 12:02 PM (TOk1P)

Bwahaha....I can walk away from the keyboard...

I just saw a pig fly by.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 27, 2015 12:04 PM (/4AZU)

9 I was promised bananas, and better weather.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at January 27, 2015 12:04 PM (zauWW)

10 So what's the legislation...being gay is mandatory?

Posted by: Bob Hope at January 27, 2015 12:04 PM (hxLER)

11 Okay, first:
If you don't want your extra-marital affair exposed to the public, the easiest way is not to have extra-marital affairs.

I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for people who cheat on their spouses.

Second:
Prosecute her. A crime is a crime, and she needs to be in jail.

Third:
I am so freaking tired all these leftist lobbies whose only real goal is the destruction of civilization. At what point can we (as a society) admit what their goal really is, and start reacting appropriately?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 12:04 PM (kff5f)

12 I want to know what they've got on Boner. Must be some real house-of-cards stuff.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at January 27, 2015 12:04 PM (TPjwz)

13 Scumbags gotta scum.

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 27, 2015 12:05 PM (evdj2)

14 She is obviously one of those noxious puritanical conservative republican tea-bagger types trying to impose her morality by force!

Well, I for one, will never knuckle under to her Christian terrorism!

Posted by: Sharkman at January 27, 2015 12:05 PM (rwkgO)

15 Not only is she a blackmailer, she's a really stupid blackmailer.

Say her plan works and these affair having congressmen vote her way. Well, if it's far outside their normal voting patterns, they've just implicated themselves in an affair. So her only leverage immediately falls apart the second it's activated.

If I'm screwing my secretary, I'm going to bet on people finding the lesbian chick to be an unreliable witness and keep right on screwing and voting against gay marriage.

Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2015 12:05 PM (MYCIw)

16 Unless the blackmailed comes forward she will not even be charged. And didn't even have to play guess 5that Party.

And yes, she looks like a carpet muncher.

http://is.gd/5RDWdi

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2015 12:06 PM (wlDny)

17 I saw Sexual Blackmail open for..

oh, forget it.

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at January 27, 2015 12:06 PM (27KAF)

18 Lauren please tell us you're not doing your secretary.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at January 27, 2015 12:07 PM (TPjwz)

19 Darth Reno clone?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 12:07 PM (PuQW/)

20 But, all the gays want is equal rights and they'll leave you all alone!!! Promise!!

/s/
The Gay Mafia

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2015 12:07 PM (5yHi1)

21
Ummm.... blackmail by an elected official is a felony.... right???

Posted by: fixerupper at January 27, 2015 12:07 PM (NaV4z)

22 I saw Sexual Favors open for Sexual Chocolate at the Queens Community Center back in 1987!

Posted by: Eddie Murphy at January 27, 2015 12:08 PM (bb0LB)

23 So you've told no one of my affair yet. No one at all. Hmm.

Posted by: toby928(C) at January 27, 2015 12:08 PM (evdj2)

24 And she's doing this out in the open?
I guess she knows she won't be prosecuted.
Sad.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 27, 2015 12:08 PM (ABcz/)

25 What she's saying is: vote my way and I'll keep my mouth shut; vote the other way, and I'll tell all.

If she were exposing all cheaters regardless of politics, I wouldn't approve, but at least I'd understand. By offering her silence in return for favorable votes, what she's saying is the cheating means nothing to her - for her, politics trumps both her victim's hypocrisy and her own.

The only solution is for MANY officeholders, both cheaters and faithful, to band together en masse and take a stand that blackmail is unacceptable, and oust her.

That being said, here's a pro tip for officeholders: keep it in your pants, and you won't have this problem.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at January 27, 2015 12:08 PM (iIzG7)

26 That was me channeling Bizarro-World Andrew Sullivan.

A painful experience for my brain.

Back to your regularly scheduled Sharkman:

"F*ck the Nazi B*tech!"

Posted by: Sharkman at January 27, 2015 12:08 PM (rwkgO)

27 She should be thrown out and charged...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at January 27, 2015 12:08 PM (Bn6aD)

28 Streetlights people.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 12:09 PM (PuQW/)

29 Too bad we won't have a certain cob's take on this in the morning.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 27, 2015 12:09 PM (xSCb6)

30 If Boehner doesn't close the borders and expel all illegal aliens on US soil,

I'm going to reveal that he, John Boehner

drinks too much.

Posted by: In which naturalfake becomes an angry lesbian at January 27, 2015 12:09 PM (0cMkb)

31 They've got dykes in Alabama? Damn.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 12:09 PM (oKE6c)

32 I really wish her targets would just say go ahead with it.
I'm sure the MSM would cover for her, but she'd look just as bad as those having affairs.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 27, 2015 12:09 PM (ABcz/)

33 8 -

I know, right? This is one of the two ways the whole notion of "rule of law" is being tossed by the wayside.

On the one hand we have a legal system that is unknowable to anyone outside the legal profession. On the other hand, we have situations with clear violations of the law not being prosecuted for a variety of reasons. Fear of the homophobia label is clearly one such reason.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2015 12:09 PM (TOk1P)

34 It's onerous.

But then again, if the corrupt, cheating bastards weren't all having affairs in the first place...

Posted by: Citizen X at January 27, 2015 12:09 PM (7ObY1)

35 "I want to know what they've got on Boner. Must be some real house-of-cards stuff.

There was this Christmas party, and she's holding the negatives.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at January 27, 2015 12:09 PM (iIzG7)

36 Too bad we won't have a certain cob's take on this in the morning.

You misspelled "Thank GAWD"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 12:09 PM (kff5f)

37 Extortion is against the Law....

Now... if only we had some National Governmental entity, that would enforce the law....

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 12:10 PM (qh617)

38 I think it awful of course, but if you get into politics and cheat around, expect to have your secrets exposed. I reserve the right to detest both the cheater and the person exposing the cheating purely for political purposes.

Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:10 PM (gmeXX)

39 Now... if only we had some National Governmental entity, that would enforce the law....

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 12:10 PM (qh617)

What an imagination you've got.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 12:11 PM (oKE6c)

40 As opposed to trading your votes for legislative favors- which is...legal.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 27, 2015 12:11 PM (GGCsk)

41 Extortion is against the Law....

Now... if only we had some National Governmental entity, that would enforce the law....

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No offense, but the federal government should have nothing to do with this.

Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:11 PM (gmeXX)

42 36 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 12:09 PM (kff5f)

sure it's less than optimal but it's for equality...

//Noted GOP thinker

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 27, 2015 12:11 PM (/4AZU)

43 Right now, I'm having visions of Boehner storming around after getting exposed, shouting "Bitch set me up! Bitch set me up!"

Posted by: Keith Arnold at January 27, 2015 12:11 PM (iIzG7)

44 This is how the left gets what it wants. And the LIV public at-large just yawns.

Posted by: Hans Gruber at January 27, 2015 12:11 PM (Dwehj)

45 Desertion, blackmail..., no big deal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 12:11 PM (l1zOH)

46 Come to my Window...

Or I'll tell your wife you are diddling the intern.

Posted by: Lesbian Legislator at January 27, 2015 12:11 PM (bb0LB)

47 18
Lauren please tell us you're not doing your secretary.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at January 27, 2015 12:07 PM (TPjwz)

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You shut up! You're ruining a moment.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2015 12:12 PM (TOk1P)

48 The only solution is for MANY officeholders, both cheaters and faithful, to band together en masse and take a stand that blackmail is unacceptable, and oust her.

That being said, here's a pro tip for officeholders: keep it in your pants, and you won't have this problem.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at January 27, 2015 12:08 PM (iIzG7)

Extortion is a felony.

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 12:12 PM (qh617)

49 As opposed to trading your votes for legislative favors- which is...legal.

And there's no way to make that illegal. That's how legislation gets passed. It's pretty well *always* been how legislation gets passed.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 12:12 PM (kff5f)

50 What do Judge Walker and Justice Kennedy say about this? Mind yourselves, lest you exhibit hatred and bigotry, folks. This includes you, ace.

Especially don't even think about stumbling on a logical observation likening the silence/intimidation of moderate Muslims in the face of crazy jihadi terrorism to, say, the silence of marriage redefinition advocates in the face of Third World mau-mauing and lawless thuggery.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2015 12:12 PM (afQnV)

51 This is the whole reason I wanted Bill Clinton impeached, because his profligate ways represented a security risk.

Posted by: navybrat at January 27, 2015 12:12 PM (JgC5a)

52 Is this SOP and we're just happening to see it because this bint bragged about it?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 27, 2015 12:12 PM (ABcz/)

53 I am SO effing tired of hearing about perverts. Am I the only one? So queer off and SHUT UP ALREADY.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 12:12 PM (oKE6c)

54 The only solution is for MANY officeholders, both cheaters and faithful, to band together en masse and take a stand that blackmail is unacceptable, and oust her.

I disagree. The solution is for the law to be enforced, with penalties, including impeachment in this case. (and the forfeiture of any law license)

Depending on a gaggle of politicians to decide when and where a law is to be applied is asking for, um, pretty much this type of distortion of the legal system.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 27, 2015 12:12 PM (0HooB)

55 Still waiting for anyone, anyone at all who supports gay marriage to explain to me how such is compatible with the current anti-discrimination laws and the 1st Amendment.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2015 12:12 PM (5yHi1)

56 If there's anything I've learned from watching Perry Mason and Diagnosis Murder, it's that blackmailers often end up dead sooner or later.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2015 12:12 PM (YYJjz)

57 Second:
Prosecute her. A crime is a crime, and she needs to be in jail.

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No no no. This is not a crime - or it shouldn't be. I know many think we should play the same game, but I do not. There are way too many crimes, let's not create more.

Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:13 PM (gmeXX)

58

hooboy

they'll have to bite the bullet and either tell their other halves now

or fingers cross, business as usual and see if she does it

either way, don't allow the bully the pulpit

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 27, 2015 12:13 PM (IXrOn)

59 I want to know what they've got on Boner

-
In the sidebar, the Orange Worm admits a couple of stumbles.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 27, 2015 12:13 PM (hdv3g)

60 They had it right pre 1974 when they were diagnosed as sociopaths.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 12:13 PM (PuQW/)

61 A man's relationship with his mistress is a sacred compact between the man and his cigars.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at January 27, 2015 12:13 PM (bb0LB)

62 @ 49 - "And there's no way to make that illegal. That's how legislation gets passed. It's pretty well *always* been how legislation gets passed."

Then maybe we should stop passing legislation.

Wait a sec, maybe we're onto something here...

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2015 12:14 PM (YYJjz)

63 I really think this is more extortion than blackmail.

Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 12:14 PM (/HX7u)

64 She's surrounded by lawyers - you'd think that would give her pause before uttering legal threats - but some people insist on learning the hard way.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Paranoia Punch with Electrolytes at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 12:14 PM (hLRSq)

65 No no no. This is not a crime - or it shouldn't be. I know many think we should play the same game, but I do not. There are way too many crimes, let's not create more.

Errr... blackmail aka extortion: already a crime. That's not adding a new one.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 12:15 PM (kff5f)

66 57 Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:13 PM (gmeXX)

Right we should allow another unilateral power play bythe left b/c SOONER or later their fist gets tired...

if there were patriots at NSA and the Military Intel services we'd be exposing the cocksuckers on the left for their ties to the "international socialist" network.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 27, 2015 12:15 PM (/4AZU)

67 I'll vote for gay marriage. But first you will blow me.

Sounds about right.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 27, 2015 12:15 PM (GGCsk)

68 Lawlessness. Decreasingly, the principal difference between the US and miserable/lesser/failed societies outside our borders.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2015 12:15 PM (afQnV)

69 So...she's going to intentionally ruin* the marriages of her colleagues unless they let her get married, too? Way to show your respect for marriage!

*I know, the people having the affairs ruined their marriages - or they might just have an understanding with their spouses but they don't want it public. Just look at Hillary and Bill's "loving (but living separate lives) marriage."

Posted by: Lizzy at January 27, 2015 12:15 PM (ABcz/)

70

Would be hilarious if they found some dirt on her and countered.

I have to say, I saw people cheating all the time, every where I worked.

Imagine if this happened more often.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 27, 2015 12:15 PM (IXrOn)

71 I really think this is more extortion than blackmail.
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 12:14 PM (/HX7u)

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Eh - I think it is simply politics. Politics ain't beanbag. It is nasty. Sometimes it is cordial. I'm not sure what is worse to be honest.

Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:15 PM (gmeXX)

72 Why do this? Doesn't she trust the Supreme Court to fuck over the entire country and declare that there is no such thing as federalism?

Posted by: Buzzion at January 27, 2015 12:15 PM (zt+N6)

73 The only solution is for MANY officeholders, both cheaters and faithful,
to band together en masse and take a stand that blackmail is
unacceptable, and oust her.

Their slogan could be "Je Suis Horndog".

Posted by: pep at January 27, 2015 12:16 PM (4nR9/)

74 There are way too many crimes, let's not create more.

Blackmail isn't a crime?

Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 27, 2015 12:16 PM (MbqmP)

75 But I thought teh gayz were always morally superior!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 27, 2015 12:16 PM (ftVQq)

76 Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2015 12:14 PM (YYJjz)

That's not even the preferred solution. You have to pass a new law to repeal an old one. And we have a lot of old ones that need to be repealed.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 12:16 PM (kff5f)

77 If they are having affairs, why doesn't the press expose them? Isn't that their job?

Posted by: maddogg at January 27, 2015 12:16 PM (xWW96)

78 @ 57 - "No no no. This is not a crime - or it shouldn't be. I know many think we should play the same game, but I do not. There are way too many crimes, let's not create more"

Er, actually blackmail IS a crime.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2015 12:16 PM (YYJjz)

79 Yeah, there are two different issues here.
One, unsavory behavior that should hound a legislator from office, the other a criminal act.

They are separable, so far as the individuals go.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 12:17 PM (l1zOH)

80 Oh, my God! Michael Palin's funniest bit ever: The "Blackmail" game show!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrRZVCg31fE

Posted by: RKae at January 27, 2015 12:17 PM (St5v2)

81 The Gay Mafia really living up to it's name.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 12:17 PM (2cS/G)

82 Would be hilarious if they found some dirt on her and countered.

I'm going to take a wild-assed guess that it's out there...in spades.

Posted by: Hans Gruber at January 27, 2015 12:17 PM (Dwehj)

83 Right we should allow another unilateral power play bythe left b/c SOONER or later their fist gets tired...

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Maybe we need to elect better politicians if this is what gets them to vote one way or another. Or maybe we need to stand with them when their indiscretions are made public so long as they vote right. I simply see no reason to prosecute someone for making these kind of personal threats against an elected politician.

Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:18 PM (gmeXX)

84 Sheesh! This is a first world political problem, I guess. Nothing in this story this translates very well to Riyadh.

Posted by: King Abdullah at January 27, 2015 12:18 PM (FCsIb)

85 BLACKMAIL!?

Posted by: Al Sharpton at January 27, 2015 12:18 PM (bb0LB)

86 She's the one best argument for mandatory Burkas...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at January 27, 2015 12:18 PM (Bn6aD)

87 If there's anything I've learned from watching Perry Mason and Diagnosis Murder, it's that blackmailers often end up dead sooner or later.

Failing to see a problem.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 12:18 PM (TAu/7)

88 82
Would be hilarious if they found some dirt on her and countered.

I'm going to take a wild-assed guess that it's out there...in spades.

And if it isn't, she'll make damn sure it soon is.

Posted by: pep at January 27, 2015 12:18 PM (4nR9/)

89 She demands sexual flavors.

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 27, 2015 12:18 PM (8MjqI)

90 thanks Guys!

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2015 12:18 PM (nqBYe)

91 Not for nothing, but: Isn't this the Alabama where--as one poster reports--nearly all the elected Republicans are nominal members, having only recently just changed their party identification? While remaining, more or less, the same amoral, big-government parasites?

So . . . go on with your bad self--clear the deck.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2015 12:19 PM (5yHi1)

92 Blackmail isn't a crime?

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Despite Ace's statement, I'm not sure this rises to the level of blackmail. And even if it did rise to the level, I would think it would be protected under the 1st A. If Popehat disagrees, I'll listen.

Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:19 PM (gmeXX)

93 i suspect THEE administration does the same thing.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2015 12:20 PM (nqBYe)

94 And yes, she looks like a carpet muncher.

Thanks, Vic. Do you have a FAQ for how to un-see things?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 27, 2015 12:20 PM (bWBdM)

95 So that's how afraid and oppressed gays are now in America -- they can openly threaten elected officials in ... Alabama.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 27, 2015 12:20 PM (ZPrif)

96 Somebody forget to get willow?

Posted by: maddogg at January 27, 2015 12:20 PM (xWW96)

97 83 Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:18 PM (gmeXX)

You're absolutely correct this is the way the game's played...

you know what else we used to do on those hills?

We allowed dueling and frankly "impeachment" was a more personal event.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gracchi

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 27, 2015 12:20 PM (/4AZU)

98 Zombie Tony Soprano approves of this tactic.

Posted by: Citizen X at January 27, 2015 12:20 PM (7ObY1)

99 Remember when the MSM and Democrats were all "what happens between a husband and a wife is none of our business" during the Lewinsky scandal? And also for John Edwards, whose affair was an open secret?

Yeah, I guess all depends on who benefits politically.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 27, 2015 12:20 PM (ABcz/)

100 if there were patriots at NSA and the Military Intel
services we'd be exposing the cocksuckers on the left for their ties to
the "international socialist" network.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 27, 2015 12:15 PM (/4AZU)

Catch-22, people in those positions sign a pretty serious oath with well-defined and severe consequences, and they know that the entire politico-legal system would come down on them like a ton of Michael Moore if they were to expose the secrets of the "international socialist" network.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 27, 2015 12:20 PM (ftVQq)

101 "Maybe we need to elect better politicians..."

The problem right here is that politicians as a group consist mostly of human beings and you get what you get.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Paranoia Punch with Electrolytes at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 12:20 PM (hLRSq)

102 Eh - I think it is simply politics. Politics ain't beanbag. It is nasty. Sometimes it is cordial. I'm not sure what is worse to be honest.

Umm.. no. Blackmail/Extortion (I'm sure there's a technical difference between the two, but I can never remember it) is a crime, whether you do it for monetary gain, sexual favors, or whatever (in this case: power).

"Politics" would be widely advertising something on the public record, or withholding a (needed) vote on some future bill, or any number of things which, while unseemly, are completely legal.

Threatening someone with the release of damaging private information unless they do what you say is a crime. It would be a crime if I threatened to reveal you were a secret Communist unless you paid me $1000.00. It would be a crime if I threatened to tell Lauren's husband she's banging her secretary ("That's what I heard" - Dr. P. Venkman) unless she sent me pics. It is a crime to threaten to reveal someone's extramarital affair unless they vote the way I want.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 12:21 PM (kff5f)

103 There is no way I could be a politician; I'd be throwing punches and whacking people with my cane.

Posted by: Reginald Smythe-Beufort at January 27, 2015 12:21 PM (dfVpK)

104 Despite Ace's statement, I'm not sure this rises to the level of blackmail. And even if it did rise to the level, I would think it would be protected under the 1st A. If Popehat disagrees, I'll listen.

I think it would be because "She?" is demanding they pass legislation...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at January 27, 2015 12:21 PM (Bn6aD)

105 Curious-- when you write Eeesh are you channeling Foghorn Leghorn- his Eeesh is the best! http://youtu.be/_UXLWkr5VMM

Posted by: S2 at January 27, 2015 12:21 PM (hUlmy)

106 She demands sexual flavors.

Strawberry? Cherry?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 12:21 PM (TAu/7)

107 Yeah, there are two different issues here. One, unsavory behavior that should hound a legislator from office, the other a criminal act. They are separable, so far as the individuals go.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 12:17 PM (l1zOH)

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Yup. Adultery isn't a crime. Extortion is.

Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 12:21 PM (/HX7u)

108 Ace is such a bigot, refusing to embrace moral diversity. So she's an extortionist, big deal, she was born that way, keep your laws off of her blackmail!

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 12:21 PM (2cS/G)

109 Well she does have a mental illness.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 12:21 PM (PuQW/)

110 maddog, they don't call they don't write.

they.don't.care!

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2015 12:21 PM (nqBYe)

111 There is no way I could be a politician; I'd be throwing punches and whacking people ~~with my cane~~

Posted by: Reginald Smythe-Beufort

FIFY.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 12:22 PM (TAu/7)

112 She demands sexual flavors. Strawberry? Cherry?
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 12:21 PM (TAu/7)

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Anchovy

Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 12:22 PM (/HX7u)

113 The problem right here is that politicians as a group consist mostly of human beings and you get what you get.

Correct. This woman is loathsome and immoral, and probably criminal, but gayness has nothing to do with it. IOW, she's just one of the herd of slugs.

Posted by: pep at January 27, 2015 12:22 PM (4nR9/)

114 87 Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 12:18 PM (TAu/7)

Yup if the attitude is to be "boys will be boys" about scum ass politicos NO PROBLEM....

just spare me the angst and caterwauling when they kill each other....

Frankly it'd keep the body of politicos fresher.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 27, 2015 12:22 PM (/4AZU)

115 I recall the GLAAD group not so very long ago vigorously decried outing people - said it was irrelevant to their job performance and all that.

Now apparently it's A-OK.

Posted by: @JohnTant at January 27, 2015 12:22 PM (eytER)

116
OT
Who can resist adorable baby pics, hummm?
http://tinyurl.com/ld78oz

Posted by: maddogg at January 27, 2015 12:22 PM (xWW96)

117 We allowed dueling and frankly "impeachment" was a more personal event.

----

Hey, I'm not saying we shouldn't bring either of those back in fashion.

Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:23 PM (gmeXX)

118
I have to say, I saw people cheating all the time, every where I worked.

Imagine if this happened more often.
===========
There was some sort of genetic study of children born in the 40s or 50s.

They found something like 1 out of 6 were not the biological child of the father.

Mother banging the milkman wasn't a joke . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2015 12:23 PM (5yHi1)

119 @11
I am so freaking tired all these leftist lobbies whose only real
goal is the destruction of civilization. At what point can we (as a
society) admit what their goal really is, and start reacting
appropriately?

Nicely stated.

Posted by: no at January 27, 2015 12:23 PM (/8EEy)

120 At least she didn't murder anyone.

Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster at January 27, 2015 12:23 PM (PuQW/)

121 Does anything show the total cultural dominance of the Gay Mafia than this bitch openly threatening people in Alabama?

The total and complete victory of the Gay Mafia in the span of a decade is impressive, on a pure political tactics level.

Now they are in the Grinding Boots Into Skulls Just For Fun phase. This is the aftermath, the wailing and gnashing of teeth phase.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 27, 2015 12:24 PM (ZPrif)

122 "Eh - I think it is simply politics. Politics ain't beanbag. It is nasty. Sometimes it is cordial. I'm not sure what is worse to be honest."

Why doesn't someone just walk up and hit her over the head with their cane? It's been done before.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2015 12:24 PM (YYJjz)

123

And yes, she looks like a carpet muncher.

http://is.gd/5RDWdi

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2015 12:06 PM (wlDny

_______________________________

Yeah, I'd hit it...

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 27, 2015 12:24 PM (HSmrB)

124 So man-crushing on Charles Payne right now:

Charles V Payne @cvpayne

We're told to suspend common sense, independent thought, skepticism & God in return for The New Mount Olympus of Scientists & Politicians

Posted by: Citizen X at January 27, 2015 12:24 PM (7ObY1)

125 This is an engraved invitation for what used to be called "out-of-doors political activity." She must think the Mantle of Gheyitude has her pretty well covered.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 27, 2015 12:24 PM (xq1UY)

126 There was some sort of genetic study of children born in the 40s or 50s.

'39-'45? Hmmm.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 12:24 PM (TAu/7)

127
They found something like 1 out of 6 were not the biological child of the father.
--
That's a myth, been debunked. Rate of cuckoldry is actually quite low.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 27, 2015 12:24 PM (ZPrif)

128 WHO WAS SCISSORS?

Posted by: Garrett at January 27, 2015 12:24 PM (bb0LB)

129 Here's the thing:

Proving infidelity is not easy. So what kind of evidence does Ms. Blackmailing Lesbian have?

Did she hire private investigators to tail her subjects?

Did she tape phone calls?

Does she have eyewitnesses?

Just what lengths has she gone to to gather irrefutable evidence, to use as ammunition on a gay-marriage vote?

I suspect, of course, that she has not gone to any lengths whatsoever to gather real evidence.

Her "evidence" is probably hallway gossip.

So let's say the vote happens. The Christian legislators vote against gay marriage.

Will she then stand up and announce, "Mr. so-and-so is screwing that lady over there!" And when pressed for proof, she will have none whatsoever.

I say: Call her bluff. See what happens.

Posted by: zombie at January 27, 2015 12:25 PM (K4YiS)

130 When the GOP first really ran the banner of "family values" up the mast, and began to talk about said values constantly and scoldingly, I predicted dourly that it would lead to endless accusations of hypocrisy once a long list of extramarital adventures by prominent Republicans had been revealed, and sure enough, that's just how things shook out.

If a party wishes for people to gather round it in support, the party had better stand for things which they value. And if the party stands for certain things, the individual officeholders themselves have to also stand for them, consistently. Intraparty discipline has to be visited on offenders. They have to be humiliatingly outed. Careers have to be broken on the wheel.

I'm fine with the GOP being a prominently advertised "family values" party, but nothing other than demoralization and damage results from claiming that label, while at the same time behind the scenes, party bigwigs are busily dashing from bed to bed.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2015 12:25 PM (noWW6)

131 Everyone always talking about "what have they got" on Boehner or Roberts ..... what is it with the outlandishly optimistic perception of our "elites"? It's the mirror image thing of the "Obama is a Muslim/Marxist/tool of a shadowy int'l cabal" nonsense.

Folks, these people in key positions are, increasingly, not very smart, totally irresponsible, cowardly, and ignorant. They don't have to be coerced into doing/saying ridiculous things. Usually they actually don't understand how ridiculous or pernicious these things are, or simply don't care.

Sure there is the example of the president, who is a bizarre, psychologically troubled, ignorant farce with an alien mindset. But the thousands of people surrounding him, the career Beltway idiots populating the bureaucracy, his 1,000s of press secretaries ("journalists") aren't being coerced into anything.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2015 12:25 PM (afQnV)

132 It is a crime to threaten to reveal someone's extramarital affair unless they vote the way I want.

----

Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true. I submit to you that not only is it not a crime but it is protected under the 1st A.

Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:25 PM (gmeXX)

133 106 She demands sexual flavors.

Strawberry? Cherry?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 12:21 PM (TAu/7)

I'm guessing "tuna."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 12:25 PM (oKE6c)

134

Whose Bitch is She!?

Posted by: ThunderB, Official Bergdahl Face Puncher at January 27, 2015 12:26 PM (zOTsN)

135 Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2015 12:06 PM (wlDny\\

I am so NOT clicking on that link!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 27, 2015 12:26 PM (ftVQq)

136 I'm beginning to think this works Well for the left .

If they think it's good.
we should consider it for Their team.

although their followers don't think anything is a crime or a sin or immoral if they do it.
look at polanski, sharpton, clintons, etc

so.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2015 12:26 PM (nqBYe)

137 Progressivism is a death cult.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 27, 2015 12:26 PM (QCo5R)

138 Remember: Matt Drudge is an evil man who ruined my life by outing my love affair with Bill Clinton. In fact. I've decided that I am the official first ever cyber-bullying victim.

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at January 27, 2015 12:26 PM (ABcz/)

139

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 12:26 PM (PuQW/)

140 Oops.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 12:27 PM (PuQW/)

141 don't judge -unless it has an R

(as we know)

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2015 12:27 PM (nqBYe)

142 Umm.. no. Blackmail/Extortion (I'm sure there's a technical difference between the two, but I can never remember it) is a crime, whether you do it for monetary gain, sexual favors, or whatever (in this case: power

I'm guessing its something along the lines of all blackmail is extortion but not all extortion is blackmail.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2015 12:27 PM (zt+N6)

143 More from the King of Payne:

Myrealname @clintfenner

@cvpayne @MotherJones do you have no shame being an Uncle Tom ?

Charles V Payne @cvpayne

@clintfenner @MotherJones I'm so proud to wake up each morning and use my brain, make my own decisions & own my life- don't hate #unbecoming

1:47 PM - 26 Jan 2015

Posted by: Citizen X at January 27, 2015 12:27 PM (7ObY1)

144 @140
I guess this puts an end to your presidential ambitions.

Posted by: pep at January 27, 2015 12:27 PM (4nR9/)

145 When the GOP first really ran the banner of "family values" up the mast, and began to talk about said values constantly and scoldingly, I predicted dourly that it would lead to endless accusations of hypocrisy once a long list of extramarital adventures by prominent Republicans had been revealed, and sure enough, that's just how things shook out.

-----

The term family values should probably be retired. You can defend marriage without invoking that term.

Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:27 PM (gmeXX)

146 I say: Call her bluff. See what happens.

Behold the power of one simple phrase: "Prove it."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 27, 2015 12:28 PM (0HooB)

147 This is what we get when we forget ideology and vote for someone based on party affiliation and "electability.'

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 27, 2015 12:28 PM (8MjqI)

148 At least she didn't murder anyone.
Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster at January 27, 2015 12:23 PM (PuQW/)

I'll bet she'd like to.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2015 12:28 PM (W5DcG)

149 Here's one debunking.

Actual rates are only a couple %. For men confident in their paternity, rate is less than 1%.

Women actually very rarely try to trick a man into raising another man's kid.

The paternity myth: the rarity of cuckoldry - Gene Expression http://bit.ly/18pMmPc

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 27, 2015 12:28 PM (ZPrif)

150 132 It is a crime to threaten to reveal someone's extramarital affair unless they vote the way I want.

----

Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true. I submit to you that not only is it not a crime but it is protected under the 1st A.

Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:25 PM (gmeXX)

IANAL, but how is that different in principle from bribing a legislator to affect his vote? You're applying pressure to the man as a person to affect the man as a legislator.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 12:28 PM (oKE6c)

151 Behold the power of one simple phrase: "Prove it."

Followed immediately by "are you familiar with the penalties for libel? You soon will be".

This assumes, of course, that she can't prove it or that there is nothing to prove.

Posted by: pep at January 27, 2015 12:29 PM (4nR9/)

152 144 @140
I guess this puts an end to your presidential ambitions.

Posted by: pep at January 27, 2015 12:27 PM (4nR9/)

Charles Cooke is writing a scathing article at this moment about Boss Moss' lack of substance in his comments.

Posted by: jwest at January 27, 2015 12:29 PM (9ZZd+)

153 @130

Then that will have to be demanded of a new party as the Republican party as currently constituted and run is a disorganized unprincipled mess and I do not see how it can be salvaged or reformed.

Time to start fresh.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2015 12:29 PM (DDFkt)

154 Monica, i know! The party of feminism and Women allowed You to be the scape goat to protect the Older man and almost beat You to death verbally you 'slut' (not my words)

hi jennifer flowers etc..

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2015 12:29 PM (nqBYe)

155 Trying to out adulterous colleagues is not a winning rationale for gay marriage, but I suppose they'll be cowed into submission.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2015 12:30 PM (DXzRD)

156 Her "evidence" is probably hallway gossip. So let's say the vote happens. The Christian legislators vote against gay marriage. Will she then stand up and announce, "Mr. so-and-so is screwing that lady over there!" And when pressed for proof, she will have none whatsoever. I say: Call her bluff. See what happens.
Posted by: zombie at January 27, 2015 12:25 PM (K4YiS)

-----------------------------------

Or the NSA. Nothing is private anymore.

Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 12:30 PM (/HX7u)

157 Beyotch better not even consider you know what.

Posted by: Reggie Love at January 27, 2015 12:30 PM (ABcz/)

158 Uggggh
Protip to the elected: it's called a zipper, they're on your pants
Keep it zipped

Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 27, 2015 12:31 PM (NAofJ)

159 Alisyn, you ignorant slut. Didn't learn a thing during all your years at FNC, huh? I always suspected she was a closet Lib while at FOX.

After DeBlasio briefly spoke with CNN's Chris Cuomo, brother of New York's Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo, New Day co-host Alisyn Camerota greeted DeBlasio with a friendly kiss and embrace before offering the mayor some homemade hot chocolate

Posted by: Citizen X at January 27, 2015 12:31 PM (7ObY1)

160
132 It is a crime to threaten to reveal someone's extramarital affair unless they vote the way I want. ---- Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true. I submit to you that not only is it not a crime but it is protected under the 1st A.
Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:25 PM (gmeXX)

Just because you publicly admit your conspiracy to commit a crime does not make it free speech.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2015 12:32 PM (zt+N6)

161 137
Progressivism is a death cult.

We should assist them to reach their eternal enlightenment.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 27, 2015 12:32 PM (XzRw1)

162 @ 132 - "Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true. I submit to you that not only is it not a crime but it is protected under the 1st A."

No it's not. There are some kooks who think it *ought* to be, but that's not the same thing as it being protected speech.

"Whoever, with intent to extort from any person any money or other thing of value, knowingly so deposits or causes to be delivered, as aforesaid, any communication, with or without a name or designating mark subscribed thereto, addressed to any other person and containing any threat to injure the property or reputation of the addressee or of another, or the reputation of a deceased person, or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both." (18 US Code Sec. 876(d))

Trying to place blackmail under the aegis of free speech is missing the point of free speech.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2015 12:32 PM (YYJjz)

163 The paternity myth: the rarity of cuckoldry - Gene Expression http://bit.ly/18pMmPc
Posted by: Costanza Defense

So all those stories about the man going off to war and momma going to pound town are false?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 12:32 PM (TAu/7)

164 This assumes, of course, that she can't prove it or that there is nothing to prove.

Additionally (and sadly), it also depends on an honest judge with reading comprehension skillz. If this case goes before some bleeding-heart liberal idiot who doesn't understand law, it'll get dismissed.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 27, 2015 12:33 PM (0HooB)

165 Hold, say the congress critter is having the affair with an insanely hot chick?
I'd give props for that if he admitted to it

Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 27, 2015 12:33 PM (NAofJ)

166
This lady is an idiot. If people were paying attention, they would vote people like this out of office post haste or impeach them for bad behavior.

Can we have a thread about the idiots in california who don't like that their class had to read so many dead white guys, like plato and hobbes, or did that happen the other day and I missed it?

Posted by: Lea hates Peppa Pig but will watch it for freedom (not really) at January 27, 2015 12:34 PM (lIU4e)

167 All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's Reproductive Health Choice Clinic think President Obama should PASS SOME LAW OPR SOMETHING TO PROTECT gAYS AND LESBIANS OF COLOR AND SOME COLOR FROM PERSONS OF NO COLOR THAT PROMOLGATE THIS HATRED. Bush lied about this too and should be arrested and made to pay for his crimes against humanity. Bush lied and the world suffered.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 27, 2015 12:34 PM (Sd++4)

168 People think rates of paternity fraud, ie cuckoldry, are high partly because of the Jerry Springer effect as loser men with skank women parade themselves on TV. But they are the abnormal freaks, not representative of anything but a small subset of losers.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 27, 2015 12:34 PM (ZPrif)

169 IANAL, but how is that different in principle from bribing a legislator to affect his vote? You're applying pressure to the man as a person to affect the man as a legislator.

----

The acts are different. One is illegal, one I suspect is not.

Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:34 PM (gmeXX)

170 Behold the power of one simple phrase: "Prove it."Followed immediately by "are you familiar with the penalties for libel? You soon will be". This assumes, of course, that she can't prove it or that there is nothing to prove.
Posted by: pep at January 27, 2015 12:29 PM (4nR9/)

-------------------------------------------

Or the DOJ, in coordination with the NSA, dumped all this information on her desk and then she was told to "advance the gay agenda". What used to be the idea of paranoids and kooks is stark reality now.

Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 12:34 PM (/HX7u)

171
Protip to the elected: it's called a zipper, they're on your pants
Keep it zipped

Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 27, 2015 12:31 PM (NAofJ)

______________________________

That reminds me,, just yesterday Huma was gettin' all bitchy like and I told her "Hey bitch, when I wan't some lip outta' you I'll rattle my zipper".

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 27, 2015 12:35 PM (HSmrB)

172 "Remember when the MSM and Democrats were all 'what happens between a husband and a wife is none of our business' during the Lewinsky scandal?"

FDR. JFK. LBJ. Goes back a lot longer than the blue dress. None of our business.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2015 12:35 PM (noWW6)

173 158
Uggggh

Protip to the elected: it's called a zipper, they're on your pants

Keep it zipped

Posted by: Navycopjoe

Hahahahahahahahaha. Oh, you're serious?

Posted by: Bill C. at January 27, 2015 12:35 PM (4nR9/)

174 Eh, I'd hit that, - with a restraining order and a lawsuit.

Posted by: Fritz at January 27, 2015 12:35 PM (UzPAd)

175 165 Hold, say the congress critter is having the affair with an insanely hot chick?
I'd give props for that if he admitted to it

Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 27, 2015 12:33 PM (NAofJ)

"Yeah, I'm totally banging Kate Upton like a screendoor in a hurricane."

Posted by: AL Legislator about to be re-elected by acclamation at January 27, 2015 12:35 PM (oKE6c)

176 One suspects that this demented, hate-filled bigot would be a superstar in the Democratic caucuses of the California State Assembly and Senate, and in newsrooms all over the state.

Posted by: md at January 27, 2015 12:35 PM (uKJIC)

177 Someone remind me again why the DSM doesn't list homosexuality as a personality disorder any more?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 12:36 PM (oKE6c)

178
So all those stories about the man going off to war and momma going to pound town are false?
--
Huh? You have to think statistically to understand the world.

If something is rare that doesn't mean it never happens. It means it rarely happens. Difference between paternity fraud occurring 1% vs 15% of the time is a huge difference. Still sucks to be in that 1%.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 27, 2015 12:37 PM (ZPrif)

179 Je Suis Alabama Rugmuncher

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 12:37 PM (2cS/G)

180 So all those stories about the man going off to war and momma going to pound town are false?
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 12:32 PM (TAu/7)

---------------------------------

Nope. My dad divorced his first wife when he came home from the Pacific. Evidently, she was a "party girl".

Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2015 12:37 PM (/HX7u)

181 177 Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 12:36 PM (oKE6c)

We needed to make room for conservatism...

//AMA

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 27, 2015 12:37 PM (/4AZU)

182 >100 O/T

I've gone from generally not giving a shit about the Pope or his office (but considering him and his office to be more or less allied to my
values) to considering him an active enemy.

Fucking Gramscians.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 27, 2015 12:37 PM (xSCb6)

183 In leftard circles Chris Kyle is a monster, and blackmailing lesbians are heros.

Posted by: maddogg at January 27, 2015 12:38 PM (xWW96)

184 Someone remind me again why the DSM doesn't list homosexuality as a personality disorder any more?

Because the authors are?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 12:38 PM (TAu/7)

185 On a personal note, I never knew one of my cousins was into anything like that.

(I'm from Alabama, and yes, we're all related)

Time was, when you wanted something different, you'd go to the barnyard.

*sigh* I miss the old days...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 27, 2015 12:39 PM (0HooB)

186 Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true. I submit to you that not only is it not a crime but it is protected under the 1st A.

Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:25 PM (gmeXX)

Please go look up the legal definition of Extortion.

It includes gaining favors for not releasing secrets... or threatening to release secrets to gain favors...

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 12:39 PM (qh617)

187 "Someone remind me again why the DSM doesn't list homosexuality as a personality disorder any more?"

Gay Gramscians.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 27, 2015 12:39 PM (xSCb6)

188 169 IANAL, but how is that different in principle from bribing a legislator to affect his vote? You're applying pressure to the man as a person to affect the man as a legislator.

----

The acts are different. One is illegal, one I suspect is not.

Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:34 PM (gmeXX)

My point was the bifurcation of identities here, between that of an individual and that of a legislator, who at least in principle is supposed to make decisions based on his judgment of what is best for the polity.

So here's another one: what if she threatened to out a sitting judge unless he ruled the way she wanted? Now that's GOTTA be illegal, right?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 12:39 PM (oKE6c)

189 173 Posted by: Bill C. at January 27, 2015 12:35 PM (4nR9/)

Bill, Bill settle down....

We gather that what NCJ is saying is "you fucking Republicans keep it zipped"...

it's an "understood you" that the GOP doesn't get the (-D) get out of jail free card.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 27, 2015 12:39 PM (/4AZU)

190 The argument of utility is a double ended pork sword.

Posted by: Kant at January 27, 2015 12:39 PM (bb0LB)

191 180. So all those stories about the man going off to war and momma going to pound town are false?

The trophy lounge in San Diego
Nuff said

Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 27, 2015 12:40 PM (NAofJ)

192 Go 'Bama! Roll, Dyke, Roll!

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2015 12:40 PM (2cS/G)

193 DSM 2 7th printing knuckled under to the outrage of the Tight Dungaree Mafia.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2015 12:40 PM (PuQW/)

194
My money is on "she doesn't know shit about her fellow legislators' private lives". She has NOTHING, no evidence or knowledge whatsoever. Bank on it.

She's running it up the flagpole because she knows that there's going to be a few wussies that fold, and she'll be celebrated by the gorram MFM.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2015 12:41 PM (TIIx5)

195 Has she gone right up to the line and kicked dirt without crossing it? She knows certain people are having extra-marital affairs and will, etc...

but doesn't she have to extort a specific individual in order to be charged with a crime?

Posted by: fluffy at January 27, 2015 12:41 PM (Ua6T/)

196 (I'm from Alabama, and yes, we're all related)

Time was, when you wanted something different, you'd go to the barnyard.

*sigh* I miss the old days...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy

T. M. I.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 12:41 PM (TAu/7)

197 Newd Berghdall.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 27, 2015 12:41 PM (0HooB)

198 196 Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 12:41 PM (TAu/7)

//Cocharn '14....Barnyard Boyz

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 27, 2015 12:42 PM (/4AZU)

199 If something is rare that doesn't mean it never happens. It means it rarely happens. Difference between paternity fraud occurring 1% vs 15% of the time is a huge difference. Still sucks to be in that 1%.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 27, 2015 12:37 PM (ZPrif)

that would be 1% with modern birth control....

and old stats would be worthless without a statistically meaningful DNA scan of a large section of the populace.

I know in the Military, infidelity was very widespread... LOTS more than 1%...

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 27, 2015 12:42 PM (qh617)

200 You know, warming to this DSM/personality disorder point, has the suicide rate among homosexuals decreased since their favorite pastime was removed from the DSM?

If not, that would argue pretty strongly for personality disorder, methinks, or at least an issue that shrinks should address for prophylaxis, if nothing else.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 12:42 PM (oKE6c)

201 Heh. Ace is quoted by Jim Geraghty, at his 'Morning Jolt'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 12:43 PM (l1zOH)

202 "I'm fine with the GOP being a prominently advertised "family values" party, "

Here's the thing: I don't see it. And that's from a bit of a former GOP insider (I admit it. Used to do VA GOP volunteer stuff).
Frankly, I've seen more "You hypocritical Repubs are all family values" from the Dems than I ever saw from the GOP folks themselves.
As to this case - she's "offended" by the "force" and "pressure" (her words) on what, exactly?

Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 12:43 PM (/jpU8)

203 @199 - "I know in the Military, infidelity was very widespread... LOTS more than 1%..."

Perhaps so, but infidelity does not always lead to paternity.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2015 12:43 PM (YYJjz)

204 All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's Reproductive Health Choice Clinic ...

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at January 27, 2015 12:34 PM (Sd++4)

Are you holding the camera?

Planned Parenthood Celebrates Chicago Abortion "We Killed It!"

http://tinyurl.com/mvoazq3

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 27, 2015 12:43 PM (IXrOn)

205 She needs to be stripped and then tied to a railroad tie and heavily battered with tar and feathers.

Put an end to this bullshit once and for all.

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at January 27, 2015 12:43 PM (baiNQ)

206 and she'll be celebrated by the gorram MFM."

Hey, where'd my publicity go?

Posted by: Wendy's Pink Shoes at January 27, 2015 12:44 PM (/jpU8)

207 @ 194 - "She's running it up the flagpole because she knows that there's going to be a few wussies that fold, and she'll be celebrated by the gorram MFM."

Which brings up the question: If they fold, aren't they basically admitting that they're having affairs?

Better for them to defy her and challenge her to "prove it."

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2015 12:44 PM (YYJjz)

208 Newd Berghdall.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy,
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* hesitates *

My blood pressure is already high.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2015 12:44 PM (l1zOH)

209 Someone remind me again why the DSM doesn't list homosexuality as a personality disorder any more?

Because the DSMV is so political that a) it's literally good for nothing and b) such diagnoses have a good chance of being used as cudgels against people who have done no wrong.

For instance, it is often said that "the mentally ill" should not be allowed to buy handguns. Well, that's bad because of how easy it is to add things to the DSMV so that "being part of a group I don't like" is now a "mental illness." If homosexuality were listed in the DSMV and such a law were ever to be passed (and there are lots of people who want to limit what the "mentally ill" are allowed to do- not just owning guns) then fine upstanding citizens like our own AtC would not be allowed to own weapons.

I don't know if Homosexuality is a mental illness. I do know that people who are homosexual *can* lead lives that do not hinge on their sexual orientation.

This has nothing (directly) to do with her homosexuality. It has everything to do with her being an entitled scrunt who thinks that her Cause is so pure that any evil she must do in its service is outweighed.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 27, 2015 12:44 PM (kff5f)

210 This isn't exactly unprecedented. There was a gay guy in DC, forget his name, who was constantly threatening to out gay Republicans if they didn't support his gay agenda.

Nothing happened to him.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2015 12:45 PM (g1DWB)

211 So, if a previously anti-gay vote had intended to change, they cannot now without dealing with an angry wife on their return home.

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2015 12:45 PM (1WQ0J)

212 heavily battered"

Hell, that's probably a dream weekend at the Folsom Street Fair...

Posted by: anon a mouse at January 27, 2015 12:45 PM (/jpU8)

213 ALA CODE § 13A-8-15 : EXTORTION IN THE SECOND DEGREE

(a) Extortion by means of a threat, as defined in paragraphs (13)b or (13)d through (13)k of Section 13A-8-1, constitutes extortion in the second degree.

(c) Extortion in the second degree is a Class C felony.

(13) THREAT. A menace, however communicated, to:

f. Expose a secret or publicize an asserted fact, whether true or false, tending to subject any person to hatred, contempt, or ridicule; or

g. Reveal any information sought to be concealed by the person threatened;

Posted by: PredictableHistory at January 27, 2015 12:45 PM (skusW)

214
200 You know, warming to this DSM/personality disorder point, has the suicide rate among homosexuals decreased since their favorite pastime was removed from the DSM? If not, that would argue pretty strongly for personality disorder, methinks, or at least an issue that shrinks should address for prophylaxis, if nothing else.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 12:42 PM (oKE6c)

I think Colorado Alex has a valid point on this. His opinion is that yes there are actual gay people. But there are also people that are really fucked up in the head and they have gravitated to the lifestyle because their mental illness will be accepted/ignored within the gay community.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2015 12:46 PM (zt+N6)

215
So all those stories about the man going off to war and momma going to pound town are false?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2015 12:32 PM (TAu/7)

Yeah, totally false.

Posted by: Jody is calling at January 27, 2015 12:46 PM (TIIx5)

216 Le Sigh. I'm sympathetic to gay civil unions, even with full spousal government bennies, after all gays are only a small percent of the population, so many other things will bankrupt the country far faster.

But I think they just want a weapon against church institutions when they demand 'marriage'.

And I'm also very tired of the lefty trope that being for, even going so far as promoting said ideal while failing to personally live up to that ideal is the 'worst thing in the world.'

Posted by: PaleRider at January 27, 2015 12:46 PM (7w/kf)

217 Buddy of mine almost married a chick, only to find out she was a whore and was sleeping around.

But rather than be thankful he found out she was a whore before he married her and move on to find a good woman, he became one of those bitter guys who likes to rant about how all women are whores and golddiggers. And he's spent a decade alone now with his bitterness.

He got unlucky by falling for a chick who was a whore -- and who I later learned other people tried to warn him about, but he wouldn't listen cause he was smitten.

Over-learning from a rare event has, literally crippled his life. It's sad. He's a good guy. He should move on, but he's holding onto his victimhood like it's a life raft.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 27, 2015 12:47 PM (ZPrif)

218 Isubmit to you that not only is it not a crime but it is protected under the 1st A.
Posted by: SH at January 27, 2015 12:25 PM (gmeXX)

Extortion is not protected under the First Amendment. Like defamation is not protected. Like conspiracy is not protected. Like threats to harm someone are not protected.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Paranoia Punch with Electrolytes at the Outrage Outlet! at January 27, 2015 12:48 PM (hLRSq)

219
Which brings up the question: If they fold, aren't they basically admitting that they're having affairs?

Better for them to defy her and challenge her to "prove it."

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2015 12:44 PM (YYJjz)

I know that. You know that. But we're talking about politicians. The Best And Brightest......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2015 12:50 PM (TIIx5)

220 Cuckoldry is rare. That's just a fact. But some men are unwilling to accept reality.

Partly it's because it's more common with loser men. So if it happens to you that implies you are a loser, and not just unlucky. So, to save their ego, they reject the data and the facts and leap to the All Women Are Whores defense, with all these married women sleeping around like crazy and tricking men into raising another man's child.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 27, 2015 12:53 PM (ZPrif)

221 But I think they just want a weapon against church institutions when they demand 'marriage'.

The fact that several states had civil unions and it wasn't enough for them proves it.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2015 12:54 PM (zt+N6)

222 I think Colorado Alex has a valid point on this. His
opinion is that yes there are actual gay people. But there are also
people that are really fucked up in the head and they have gravitated to
the lifestyle because their mental illness will be accepted/ignored
within the gay community.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2015 12:46 PM (zt+N6)

It's a good point, but not very convincing, because it contains more than a whiff of "no true Scotsman." So the point above applies to virtually any socially extreme group, e.g., Nazis, Muslims, whatever. If you exclude mentally ill members of that group as not actually belonging to it, then you have a mentally healthy group, by definition. The question is what proportion of that group falls into the mentally ill category. It's never 100%, for any group that isn't explicitly selected for mental illness.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 12:55 PM (oKE6c)

223 209 -

Regardless of the politics involved, the DSM5 does not list homosexuality as a mental illness because the definition of mental illness MUST include a social/cultural component, whereby the behavior is viewed as being outside the bounds of what is "normal."

Obviously we don't live in that world anymore, in regards to homosexuality.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2015 12:56 PM (TOk1P)

224 213 -

Hmmm, so the person upthread who keeps saying it's not a crime doesn't know what he's talking about.

That's odd. For the AoSHQ, I mean.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2015 01:03 PM (TOk1P)

225 Crap. I've been Willowed, haven't I.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2015 01:03 PM (TOk1P)

226 Remember during William Jefferson Clinton's pants-down presidency when the MSM/DNC axis lectured us that politicians' private lives were private? Remember when credible allegations of sexual harassment and rape were made against Clinton and other prominent Democrats, and were were told it was none of our business and we should just Move On? Remember when using government agencies like the IRS to spy on Americans was considered by the Left to be dictatorial, when running up deficits was un-American, and firing missiles at countries without a declaration of war was illegal and grounds for impeachment? Ah, good times, good times....

Posted by: Banned_by_KBTX at January 27, 2015 01:07 PM (8/39s)

227
Maybe I'm crazy, but aren't there laws against extortion and blackmail? Not to mention trying to compel a legislator to vote in a particular way? Or are those just remnants of the old republic that Obama and his regime are sweeping away?

Posted by: Brown Line at January 27, 2015 01:14 PM (zcbZo)

228
Still, if it were me in that legislator, I'd quote the Duke of Wellington: "Publish, and be damned."

Posted by: Brown Line at January 27, 2015 01:18 PM (zcbZo)

229 227

Maybe I'm crazy, but aren't there laws against extortion and blackmail?

The only laws are the laws Obama wants to enforce. Deal with it.

Posted by: John Boehner at January 27, 2015 01:19 PM (XzRw1)

230 SH, here you go, the relevant LAW from Alabama:
http://law.onecle.com/alabama/criminal-code/13A-8-15.html

the "threat" in this instance is under (13f) of section 13A-8-1

Posted by: GMan at January 27, 2015 01:23 PM (sxq57)

231 It's a class C felony.

Posted by: GMan at January 27, 2015 01:23 PM (sxq57)

232 and I see someone else beat me to it... Nice job:
PredictableHistory

Posted by: GMan at January 27, 2015 01:26 PM (sxq57)

233 The best way to deal with blackmail is to come clean, and accept the consequences. period.

If you don't, you become the blackmailer's slave.

Posted by: Kristophr at January 27, 2015 01:32 PM (6ROe1)

234 I'm sure the moral and intellectual giants who voted this woman into office will vote her out of office the next chance they get.

Posted by: very sarcast- I mean certain at January 27, 2015 01:39 PM (klzyR)

235 This blackmail has been out in the open for years.
Accusations of 'hypocrite' against family values supporters who aren't perfect.

Newsflash: Politicians are human beings. given the rate of infidelity is in the 20-50% range, yeah, quite a few have done something they might not want public.

So be it.

Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at January 27, 2015 01:44 PM (wT9UL)

236
It's a good point, but not very convincing, because it contains more than a whiff of "no true Scotsman." So the point above applies to virtually any socially extreme group, e.g., Nazis, Muslims, whatever. If you exclude mentally ill members of that group as not actually belonging to it, then you have a mentally healthy group, by definition. The question is what proportion of that group falls into the mentally ill category. It's never 100%, for any group that isn't explicitly selected for mental illness.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 27, 2015 12:55 PM (oKE6c) My point was not to somehow say that they aren't really gay.It was toargue against theideathat homosexuality is strictly something that you're born with, and to explain some of the behavior of the radical gay rights supporters.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2015 01:46 PM (YQ4mh)

237 231 It's a class C felony.
Posted by: GMan at January 27, 2015 01:23 PM (sxq57)

What's a Class C Felony when a woman can't marry another woman? Or a man another man? Or a Muslim marry his goat?

Posted by: The Grasshopper at January 27, 2015 01:46 PM (DNTer)

238 Sour grapes.
A picture's worth it's weight in golden prose:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/ALRepPatriciaTodd-410x220.gif

Posted by: change lobsters again at January 27, 2015 01:54 PM (zYgqi)

239 The Left has always been repellent, not just in a moral sense.

Posted by: Null at January 27, 2015 01:55 PM (JVYUd)

240 In the struggle for social justice, such measures are completely justified. Let the RethugliKKKan hypocrites be exposed before their Jesusland constituents.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at January 27, 2015 02:17 PM (tv8Jb)

241 "I think Colorado Alex has a valid point on this. His opinion is that yes there are actual gay people. But there are also people that are really fucked up in the head and they have gravitated to the lifestyle because their mental illness will be accepted/ignored within the gay community."

Any sexual problem that a man has with a woman is in the head and most times can be cured. Same for women with men. Most of the times it is rooted in childhood experiences that left traumas.

The number of gheys who have serious problems with the female bodyparts (saying that tits are horrible and the pussy is disgusting) are the majority. You are probably aware that some people even think the vagina has teeth.

All the above are mental problems, but some people do acknowledge that and seek help. Why BIG ANUS would ever think of 'being cured'? they turned into an 'identity' and have now an immense power to overturn mores and laws just by snap of finger. Even if by studies it turned out that homosexuality is indeed a sexual dysfunction, they would cover everything up just to hang on to the immense power they have accumulated.

Wouldn't you want to be able to say to anybody that dares to criticize you 'shut up you homophobe' and close the subject and being able to whine about it in the press?

The tactics are worse than SS police, but who cares as long as the retards can say they have ghey friends.

Thanks to the usual suspects (the useful idiots) that said for years 'I have nothing against them' you have massively empowered one minuscule group of nasty eternal children with mental problems over the rest of the population that look for blood.

Now it is too late. You will never get back to 'normality'. Mark my words. It will be considered hate speech if a pregnant mother says 'I wish my baby will be hetero'.

Posted by: fromabroad at January 27, 2015 02:23 PM (rnV3B)

242 She should be charged with extortion.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 27, 2015 04:03 PM (TIgJq)

243 Why worry what this piece of scum threatens to expose? After all when Billy boy decided to use Monica as his personal humidor wasn't it just about sex? So what's the big deal?

Posted by: RGallegos at January 27, 2015 04:11 PM (kKX0M)

244 She's probably tired of elite fucks using an issue, and people, sort of, to impress easily impressed voters. Aren't we, too?

And she's blackmailing who? No one knows, so how are you going to prosecute her? The ammoral fucks don't have the balls come forward.

Posted by: scott at January 27, 2015 04:19 PM (o2C6M)

245 And I doubt I would be a fan of hers, but why shouldn't we cheer the political class destroying itself to some degree? The a-holes on our side depend on people on our side hating the a-holes on their side enough that we end up defending the a-holes on our side. Seems to me, at least.

Posted by: scott at January 27, 2015 04:25 PM (o2C6M)

246 Last comment- Ace and the bloggers here are funny. Most commenters trying to out mean each other and shit to impress people online they're never going to actually meet ain't that funny. Give your heads a shake! It's not too late.

Posted by: scott at January 27, 2015 04:37 PM (o2C6M)

247 And yes, she looks like a carpet muncher.

http://is.gd/5RDWdi

Posted by: Vic

And yes, she looks like a carpet muncher.

http://is.gd/5RDWdi

Posted by: Vic

One pic is worth a thousand donuts.

Our dog had diarrhea and shit all over a rug which we had to throw out. She can munch on that.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 27, 2015 05:15 PM (TIgJq)

248 I looked up the definition of "extortion." Basically, it's how the government pays it's bills. "Extortion for me, but not for thee..."

Posted by: Optimizer at January 27, 2015 05:35 PM (/q6+P)

249 Let her spill the beans on these adulterers and then dismiss them at the next election and also prosecute her for extortion.

Get rid of both parties that are corrupt.

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