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Saturday Morning Politics Thread: Who Isn't Running? [Y-not]
I'm still working on the next installment in our "issues" series in which we've been examining the records and positions of our top 7 GOP prospects, so I thought this weekend we could just talk about how the field is shaping up thus far.
This tweet sums things up rather nicely, I think:ABC News: Marco Rubio Moves Toward 2016 Presidential Bid http://t.co/KQ0anZmfEi pic.twitter.com/9nrXbPtjPC
— Dan McLaughlin (@baseballcrank) January 23, 2015Yesterday Jeb Bush flew to Utah to meet with Mitt Romney. (Supposedly, this meeting was schedule some time ago.) And it has also been reported that Romney will be holding a pow-wow on Friday (in Boston) with some of his top advisors.
Incidentally, although I knew that Romney was building a house in my neck of the woods (in addition to the one he already has in Park City), I had not realized that he'd switched residencies. He's now registered to vote in Utah. Well, at least he'll be able to carry his home state this time around. Who else has made moves with respect to 2016? Here's a very handy roundup from WaPo. (It's so good I abandoned the news roundup that I had been compiling as soon as I found this one.) Make sure to follow the link, but here's an excerpt:* Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida is convening a strategy session with his finance team today in the Sunshine State. And he is bringing on Anna Rogers, who is currently the finance director for the conservative supergroup American Crossroads, to head up fundraising for his PAC. * Sarah Palin said she was "interested" in the race while "serving wild boar chili to the homeless" at the Salvation Army in Las Vegas." * Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker just signed on David Polyansky, who served as senior strategist for Sen. Joni Ernst's 2014 campaign, to be his lead man in the key state of Iowa.The list is huge. In case you missed it, Paul Ryan announced that he is notrunning. This had an interesting effect on me -- I like him more, simply because I'm so sick of these other folks who play coy for months or start raising money for races they know they can't win. So a very big field is shaping up. But -- don't fear! -- Reince Preibus is putting his foot down with respect to the "debates." GOP hopefuls will have to meet certain criteria in order to participate:
Reince Priebus, Republican National Committee chairman, says that potential presidential contenders will have to poll above certain levels to earn a spot in the GOP debates. In a radio interview on the "Hugh Hewitt Show" Monday, the conservative host asked Priebus how the debates would work if there were 20 candidates vying to be heard. "You can't," Priebus said. "You can't do 20 people. ...You have to have certain thresholds in place, so you have to be at 1 percent of the vote in Iowa, and that threshold can move like a slide rule based on the proximity to the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primaries, just like it did before." Priebus said the thresholds would be determined in coordination between the RNC and the media outlet conducting the debate and that none of the minimum requirements had yet been set.(emphasis mine) So the upshot is that once again Iowa -- and the networks -- will be playing major roles in choosing our candidates for us. Awesome. If Reince thinks that the biggest problem was who was on stage rather than who was asking the questions he must have slept through 2012. In any event, here's the debate schedule:
1. Fox News, August 2015, OhioAnd, courtesy of Frontloading HQ, here's the current status of the 2016 Presidential Primaries:
2. CNN, September 2015, California
3. CNBC, October 2015, Colorado
4. Fox Business, November 2015, Wisconsin
5. CNN, December 2015, Nevada
6. Fox News, January 2016, Iowa
7. ABC News, February 2016, New Hampshire
8. CBS News, February 2016, South Carolina
9. NBC/Telemundo, February 2016, Florida PENDING
Fox News, March 2016, TBD
CNN, March 2016, TBD
Conservative Media Debate, Date TBD, Locations TBD
For fun, let's have a few polls. First, whom do you expect to have thrown their hat into the ring by the time the first debate rolls around?
See you next week!
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 08:39 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: ALH at January 24, 2015 08:40 AM (btTLZ)
Posted by: ALH at January 24, 2015 08:41 AM (btTLZ)
Posted by: ALH at January 24, 2015 08:42 AM (btTLZ)
Posted by: ALH at January 24, 2015 08:43 AM (btTLZ)
Now to go back and read/vote
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 24, 2015 08:46 AM (WPNHW)
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 08:46 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: hungarianfalcon at January 24, 2015 08:48 AM (tps/p)
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 08:50 AM (9BRsg)
I like Allen West more than quite a few on these lists.
Also, not that I am a booster, but John Bolton is not listed and he's making noises of late. Mostly swiping at Rand Paul.
BUT - Cruz and Walker are my favorites overall.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 08:50 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: ALH at January 24, 2015 08:50 AM (btTLZ)
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 08:51 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: hungarianfalcon at January 24, 2015 08:48 AM (tps/p)
Magyar!
Buz-meg.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 08:51 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: dogfish at January 24, 2015 08:51 AM (1vYi0)
Posted by: done that at January 24, 2015 08:51 AM (KtxUt)
Say hello to Mr. Sweatervest himself loosing to Hillary in 22 months time...
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 24, 2015 08:52 AM (0Ew3K)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 08:52 AM (CMkNk)
I put the list together based on some polling referenced in that WaPo article and added a couple of others we've either been talking about or who some ppl think may be running again. But, yeah, Allen West is a great guy. I'd missed that Bolton has been talking, too.
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 08:52 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 24, 2015 08:53 AM (0Ew3K)
Posted by: dogfish at January 24, 2015 08:53 AM (1vYi0)
Posted by: pep at January 24, 2015 08:54 AM (4nR9/)
I'm intrigued by Gowdy though....haven't heard much out of him regarding the Presidential race.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 24, 2015 08:54 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 24, 2015 08:53 AM (0Ew3K)
GOP = Greasy Old Prostitutes
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 08:54 AM (CMkNk)
Jindal/Haley - I like them both and it would be a hoot to have two Indians in the top slots.
Gowdy/Palin - just for fun, and to immanentize the Liberal Eschaton.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 24, 2015 08:54 AM (KH1sk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 08:52 AM (CMkNk)
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Yes. YES.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 24, 2015 08:55 AM (KH1sk)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 24, 2015 08:54 AM (60Vyp)
Gowdy stood with Boehner. Meh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 08:55 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Dem Ticket 2016 at January 24, 2015 08:56 AM (1vYi0)
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OK, let's draft Governor Nixon for VP under Perry, Jindal, Haley or Cruz!
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 08:57 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 08:55 AM
You make me sad..... Cfuk him then. Leave him off so he can fill a spot as the AG.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 24, 2015 08:58 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at January 24, 2015 08:59 AM (/pOl7)
The only Republican who could bring me back into the fold for the party would be Jeff Sessions and he aint running.
Posted by: Elize Nayden at January 24, 2015 09:00 AM (JbnkH)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 24, 2015 08:58 AM (60Vyp)
Yeah, he talks a great game in committee hearings but he voted for Boehner and has been rather a squish on the key issues.
Sorry to say that. Too bad because he's intelligent and a firebrand.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:00 AM (CMkNk)
Can you even imagine the level of unbridled racism that ticket would unleash from the Dems? Me likely, me likely very much.
Posted by: pep at January 24, 2015 09:01 AM (4nR9/)
Because Watching Paint Dry is getting tired of being the #1 most boring thing in the world to watch.
Posted by: Lady In Black at January 24, 2015 09:02 AM (6C3ns)
The only Republican who could bring me back into the fold for the party would be Jeff Sessions and he aint running.
Posted by: Elize Nayden at January 24, 2015 09:00 AM (JbnkH)
Disagree vociferously. There are some VERY good candidates there.
There is no perfect candidate. Never will be. You have to go with the best most viable CONSERVATIVE and rally around him/her. Once elected, you hold their feet to the fire if necessary.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:02 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: pep at January 24, 2015 09:02 AM (4nR9/)
People are saying Romney should run because everything he said in his race against Obama was true and/or has come to pass.
Based on that criterion, Palin should be one of the top candidates-
because everything she said about TFG and his policies was true and/or has come to pass.
And she said it first.
Without notes
or
a working teleprompter.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 24, 2015 09:03 AM (KBvAm)
Posted by: @PeeteySDee at January 24, 2015 09:03 AM (k4N7I)
Posted by: done that at January 24, 2015 09:04 AM (KtxUt)
I could probably get by on the squish issues to some extent, realizing that politics is ultimately about some form of compromise. But that vote for/with Boehner to remain SoH is an automatic disqualification for me.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 24, 2015 09:04 AM (60Vyp)
Haley is proposing an income tax cut, coupled with some reforms in (iirc) how gas taxes are allocated and a 10 cent per gallon gas tax increase to repair SC's roads. She won't do the gas tax increase if the other two things don't happen. The net effect would be a sizable tax decrease for South Carolinians.
I wish to hell she'd start at least looking into running.
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 09:04 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Lady In Black at January 24, 2015 09:06 AM (6C3ns)
I could probably get by on the squish issues to some extent, realizing that politics is ultimately about some form of compromise. But that vote for/with Boehner to remain SoH is an automatic disqualification for me.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 24, 2015 09:04 AM (60Vyp)
Exactly. Boehner had to go especially in the wake of 2014.
Gowdy blew it in one of the most important things he had to do in voting him out.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:06 AM (CMkNk)
http://tinyurl.com/okauln6
Also, I notice that Jeb Bush has yet to get a single Moron vote.
wtg, Horde.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 24, 2015 09:07 AM (05TgY)
Huntsman 2016: Vote for Me and You May Do with My Hot Daughters as You Please
He'd carry all 57 states and the Canal Zone.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 24, 2015 09:07 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 24, 2015 09:07 AM (V70Uh)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 08:50 AM
Walker, JJ? Amnesty! Might as well vote for Krispy Kreme....
Lotsa candidates here who look tempting but have at least one major skeleton rattlin' around in their closets.
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 24, 2015 09:08 AM (yAC3X)
Posted by: Lady In Black at January 24, 2015 09:06 AM (6C3ns)
What good is abstaining? Especially since we were within 4 or 5 votes of setting him up for removal?
Sorry, but that was a crucial vote to show who has integrity and who does not.
Yes, agree, he'd be a great AG.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:09 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 24, 2015 09:09 AM (V70Uh)
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha
THAT would be a GREAT campaign add. A continuous stream of here is what the JEF and the MSM said, juxtaposed with the reality.
If only there were a real opposition party..... *sigh*
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 24, 2015 09:09 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 08:50 AM
Walker, JJ? Amnesty! Might as well vote for Krispy Kreme....
Lotsa candidates here who look tempting but have at least one major skeleton rattlin' around in their closets.
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 24, 2015 09:08 AM (yAC3X)
Well, as I noted earlier, no candidate is perfect on every issue. And Amnesty is a deal killer. But if he gets the nod, then at least I think he can be forced to change his mind. Dubya was all set to do it in '07 after we lost the House, and he was forced to back down.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:11 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 09:04 AM (9BRsg)
Yeah, I agree.
After looking into her, she's by far my favorite dark horse candidate and brings a lot to the table in a race against Hillary! or Fauxcahontas.
Plus, a Haley/Cruz ticket-
would just about have the libtards setting their hair on fire.
A great one-two punch in intellect, debate, and public speaking.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 24, 2015 09:11 AM (KBvAm)
Posted by: Mr. Natural at January 24, 2015 08:59 AM (/pOl7)
Thank God he rejected it. That monstrosity would have gone up a mile from my house. It would have ruined my nneighborhood.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 24, 2015 09:12 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2015 09:13 AM (mx5oN)
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He missed the vote because of a canceled flight due to bad weather. The Blaze had an article that quoted him as saying he would've voted for Boehner had he been there. Yeah, that's not too good. He's my rep, and I still like the guy immensely, but there's a limit to what we're going to see out of him.
Posted by: Lady In Black at January 24, 2015 09:13 AM (6C3ns)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:14 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Lady In Black at January 24, 2015 09:15 AM (6C3ns)
Posted by: Lady In Black at January 24, 2015 09:06 AM (6C3ns)
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Gowdy would have been "best suited" to challenge Lindsey Graham, but just like with the Boehner vote, he was nowhere to be found when the conservative movement had real need of him.
This guy is just terribly overrated.
Posted by: Elize Nayden at January 24, 2015 09:16 AM (JbnkH)
I don't believe Gowdy voted at all for Speaker, J.J. Not sure why
Posted by: Lady In Black
He missed the vote because of "a canceled flight". For a vote that was scheduled weeks in advance.
Afterwards stated he would have voted for Boehner if he had been there. As someone said, look thru his wastepaper basket and find the first draft of his statement saying he would have voted the other way.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 24, 2015 09:16 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2015 09:17 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:18 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2015 09:18 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 24, 2015 09:19 AM (2cS/G)
I would love it for all the 20 or so to gather around and conspire to wittle down the group and also vow to work hand in hand to push back on the MSM and the donks. It won't happen. I'm not hopeful for 2016. The GOP is going to shit the bed again and our young stalwarts will likely be permanently damaged afterwards like Palin is/was.
Posted by: Yip at January 24, 2015 09:19 AM (84SRe)
Why do politicians think their only job is finding ways to get your money?
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2015 09:19 AM (A98Xu)
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I read about it yesterday. It's really clear - she said she'd veto - that she insists on the reforms and the income tax cut or she'll veto the gas tax increase. The Dem they quoted said he was disappointed.
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 09:21 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 09:21 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:18 AM (CMkNk)
What now?
Posted by: Mitt Romney Doing "The Squatting Dog" at January 24, 2015 09:21 AM (KBvAm)
I did.
Posted by: pep at January 24, 2015 09:22 AM (4nR9/)
Link also in nick.
http://dailysignal.com/2015/01/23/
nikki-haley-plans-make-south-carolina-competitive/
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 09:22 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Elize Nayden at January 24, 2015 09:16 AM
You've summed up my impression of damn near all the Republican wannabes.
It's an all hat--no cattle field, IMO, and what we'll end up with Jebbie or teh Mutt because consensus. They're the "unifying" candidates!
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 24, 2015 09:22 AM (yAC3X)
From an AmSpec article:
According to the FEC, on June 20 - that would be four days before the June 24 runoff - the controversial Cochran-supporting group Mississippi Conservatives received a $50,000 donation from... American Crossroads.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 24, 2015 09:22 AM (05TgY)
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2015 09:24 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:18 AM (CMkNk)
Mmmphff?
Posted by: Jeb! Bush Playing the Part of the Chicken in "The Rotisserie" at January 24, 2015 09:24 AM (KBvAm)
Karl Rove is a bloated, self-inflating douchebag who makes money off the destruction of the country.
He's as evil a parasite in his own greasy way as any leftist out there.
Fuck him.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:24 AM (CMkNk)
30 It will be interesting to see how Walkers casino rejection decision
will affect him nationally. It's not going over so well among fiscal
conservatives here in WI. Social conservatives love it, though.
Posted by: Mr. Natural at January 24, 2015 08:59 AM (/pOl7)
Thank God he rejected it. That monstrosity would have gone up a mile from my house. It would have ruined my nneighborhood.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 24, 2015 09:12 AM (dFi94)"
On the bright side you could have brought in a few extra bucks by renting out your spare bedroom to hookers by the hour. On the whole, though, casinos don't seem to do much positive for anybody who doesn't own them.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 24, 2015 09:25 AM (KDbAT)
I have to disagree with that statement. Palin emerged from here lackluster campaign performance with McCain (*spits*) as a developing star. She's gone on to become a rent free occupant in every liberal head and she draws fire from them whenever she comments or responds to an issue.
In my opinion that has immeasurable value when it comes to campaigning. People are gonna pay attention just to see the fireworks. What more could you ask for when you want to get a point out for debate?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 24, 2015 09:25 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Cryin' John Boner at January 24, 2015 09:25 AM (6CTxJ)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 24, 2015 09:26 AM (nFdGS)
Posted by: Mitt: 3.97 GPA at January 24, 2015 09:26 AM (5voqw)
Mostly because I think he is a very good manager and man. He's not perfect by any stretch, but none of them are. I'm especially concerned about his new position on amnesty.
Posted by: pep at January 24, 2015 09:27 AM (4nR9/)
We need to get everyone on that list (and all the other people on the right) to totally ignore democrat politicians for the next year and a half and concentrate all their efforts and skills at demeaning the media.
At every opportunity, point out how stupid and bias their questions or comments are. Be prepared with research on the reporter/anchors about what they've said in the past. Pound them into the ground at every live tv opportunity.
Make it so by the time the election is 5 or 6 months away, they will be so scared to pull their normal bullshit that some actual reporting occurs.
Without the media, the left falls apart.
Posted by: jwest at January 24, 2015 09:27 AM (vwlGK)
Ha ha ha. Now that right there is funny.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 24, 2015 09:26 AM (nFdGS)
I saw American Crossroads open for Leftist Prison Gang Rape in '08 on Fox News.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:28 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Yip at January 24, 2015 09:28 AM (84SRe)
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2015 09:19 AM (A98Xu)"
Politicians only job is to give money to their cronies. It just works out that taking money from you is the easiest way to do that.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 24, 2015 09:28 AM (KDbAT)
comes to campaigning. People are gonna pay attention just to see the
fireworks. What more could you ask for when you want to get a point out
for debate?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 24, 2015 09:25 AM
What more could you ask for? Well, just maybe, we could have asked for her to run for an actual office that would have given her the opportunity to do something, take a stand for something, and work for something. Instead, she grills mooseburgers, occasionally sends out a tweet and makes money speechifying.
Those are not bad things, but for me are not the path one should choose if one wants to be President.
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 24, 2015 09:29 AM (yAC3X)
Bankruptcy lawyers.
Posted by: Fox2! at January 24, 2015 09:29 AM (brIR5)
Bankruptcy lawyers.
Posted by: Fox2! at January 24, 2015 09:29 AM (brIR5)
Moe Green and Hyman Roth concur.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:30 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Dem and Rep Candidates 2016 at January 24, 2015 09:31 AM (1vYi0)
The guy he was speaking to said "you're gonna get Jeb, Mitt, Rand and Huckabee".
*sigh*
oh, and why Perry is not on the final four list? He hired Mitt's 2012 campaign manager.
*double sigh*
Posted by: Mordineus at January 24, 2015 09:32 AM (eR69N)
Posted by: TexasJew at January 24, 2015 09:32 AM (gECZB)
That's what bothers me most about 2012 -- the lesson they learned was that he was too Severely Conservative.
Link in nick about the speech he just gave.
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 09:32 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 24, 2015 09:33 AM (2cS/G)
Posted by: TexasJew at January 24, 2015 09:32 AM (gECZB)
After he dies, his dick will stay hard for at least 4 hours.
Then again . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:33 AM (CMkNk)
I'd like to see her try for the Senate but she's been so visible, I don't think Alaskans are happy with that. So she's reduced from politician with a future to a lightning rod. Her ability to raise money and endorse up-and comers, like Ted Cruz is where she shines now.
Posted by: Yip at January 24, 2015 09:34 AM (84SRe)
Ha. That's an interesting question to ask of each candidate. Can you carry your own state? Outright reject any candidate who has to even pause for a second. Like New Jerseys Chris Christie -- when every fourth year presidential election rolls around, and the Free Shit Army votes en mass, I can't see him carrying Jersey. Maybe, maybe squeaking by. Jeb Bush carrying Florida? Maybe.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at January 24, 2015 09:34 AM (zxQ4h)
I think we're all getting into the weeds with these candidates (except for the obvious fucksticks who will never get our support).
Let's work to shut out the GOP-e at the primaries and then rally around the best conservative (please G-d) there is, warts and all. Come what may.
And once elected, the battle only just begins. It took us 100 years to get to this point and it's gonna take a long time to even begin to claw back to some sense of normalcy.
Crucial as they are, elections are only a small part of this. The war is on us. Are we up for this or not?
For the children - OURS.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:37 AM (CMkNk)
Somebody should send these polls to the dullards who are thinking about running. Not that they would listen, but at least we could say "Told you so" after the election.
More and more, I'm finding the kindest thing I can say about the Republicans is they suck less than the brainless libs. Lately, only a little less.
Even though we are morons, you all know the story. Stacked deck and all that. Media and academia are, and probably always will be, chock full of liberal loons? The mere fact the MSM could spin Mitten's comment about the "47%" into something used against him; when we all know it's true, speaks volumes. I've traveled to many of the larger cities in the US while working for Uncle Sam. To a T they are almost all liberal cesspools. That may just be my clinging, flyover country bias rearing it's ugly head though? On the other hand, who else elected Uncle Barky? It sure as hell wasn't us folks out here in the heartland.
I guess my point is I think those of us who truly care about adhering to real conservative principles should at least consider starting a new party. Something we control and more importantly, define, before the liberal lackies and toadies that dominate the MSM do it for us. Let's admit it, the liberals have succeeded in destroying the "tea party" label. We could call ourselves the "Constitutionalist Party" or something. I bet just the mere mention of something like that would set liberal mouths foaming in a Pavlovian response?
I hear those of you who say "give the new Congress a chance." I just haven't seen anything short of typical CYA statements and indications of more of the same so far. I guess that makes me a pessimist, but so be it. Listening to and/or watching sun-tan-man and turtle tell us we can't defeat Obarkycare while secretly conspiring behind our backs to let the latest immigration disgrace stand, doesn't exactly inspire any confidence on my end.
Somebody please send me a life raft because I'm losing faith in the Republican Party at warp speed. /R-off.
Posted by: Just another bitter clinger at January 24, 2015 09:37 AM (TaO1J)
I deeply suspect that we are going to get exactly what we deserve. Good and hard. Again.
Posted by: Mordineus at January 24, 2015 09:37 AM (eR69N)
Posted by: Yip at January 24, 2015 09:38 AM (84SRe)
Posted by: Jean at January 24, 2015 09:39 AM (TETYm)
Time to take a shower.
Fuck the left.
Fuck Islam.
Fuck the Quislings who enable them.
That be all.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:40 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Just another bitter clinger at January 24, 2015 09:37 AM (TaO1J)
Agreed, although I have totally lost faith with the GOP-e.
All in favor of another party. Where's our Sheldon Adelson and Ken Langone?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:41 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober
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Unfortunately, I think the MSM is going to arrange that the entire country does that too in 2016.
Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2015 09:43 AM (fWLrt)
Sorry, hon, but I jumped ship Thursday. I'm just drowning out here in the weeds now.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 24, 2015 09:44 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: Yip at January 24, 2015 09:45 AM (84SRe)
Posted by: J.J Sefton at January 24, 2015 09:41 AM
I'd settle for our Marvin Kitman.
Or Harold Stassen.
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 24, 2015 09:46 AM (yAC3X)
Posted by: Huggy at January 24, 2015 09:46 AM (PGh+Q)
Here is "The Motherload" by
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp7CYvh8FwA
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 24, 2015 09:47 AM (0Ew3K)
Posted by: Yip at January 24, 2015 09:49 AM (84SRe)
Yep, yet the morons on the right insist on giving 'em from Jan 2015 thru Nov 2016 to take potshots...
I know I'll sound like tha 'The rents too damn high' candidate; but ths (open)season is too damn long
Posted by: socalcon at January 24, 2015 09:50 AM (DAB5r)
Posted by: buzzion at January 24, 2015 09:52 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2015 09:52 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 24, 2015 09:52 AM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 24, 2015 09:53 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 24, 2015 09:54 AM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: rickl at January 24, 2015 09:54 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 24, 2015 09:52 AM (Cq0oW)
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Sadly correct.
Demographics and the rise of the FSA. The two are related but not fully. Plenty of white people out there who love them some sweet, sweet gubmt checks that are Democrats for life.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2015 09:55 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Hey Zeus Smith at January 24, 2015 09:56 AM (pXcf8)
In other words what I'm saying; is where can a brotha get some weed?
Weed for votes. Catch the buzz.
Vote Democrat 2016.
Word.
Posted by: FSA Slogan-o-matic at January 24, 2015 09:58 AM (6CTxJ)
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 09:58 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: AnnaS at January 24, 2015 10:01 AM (P+I7L)
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 09:58 AM (9BRsg)
___________
I thought everyone got the joke. From earlier this week, Hector, mute/moot.
Bah.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2015 10:01 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2015 08:50 AM
Yup. I am already sick of most of the rest. Especially Mitt, Jeb, Christie, Paul, Huck and Santorum.
Posted by: Lester at January 24, 2015 10:02 AM (2UPXV)
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Very good point. I find myself doing that a lot as I'm digging through their records for these Politics Threads.
OTOH, for myself I need to do it in order to be able to ascertain who is NOT acceptable and also to be able to quickly counter any attacks based on invalid arguments.
But I think there are a lot of good prospects.
Sadly, there are a lot of turds and the system is designed to reward the most politically connected (to the ruling classes in the media, Wall Street, and DC) as well as to give excessive attention to the fringe or one-issue candidates who can never win.
Very frustrating.
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 10:02 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 24, 2015 10:04 AM (05TgY)
WATCH: LIVESTREAM OF IOWA FREEDOM SUMMIT
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/01/23/watch-livestream-of-iowa-freedom-summit/
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 24, 2015 10:08 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 24, 2015 10:09 AM (g0iKS)
Speakers include: Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Mike Lee (R-UT), former Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR), former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), Reps. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) and Steve King (R-IA), real estate mogul Donald Trump, former Johns Hopkins neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton and former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina and many others.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 24, 2015 10:09 AM (IXrOn)
She has a track record as a Governor to run on. She has spent the last number of years as a political kingmaker and she did it as an outsider to the federal government or the GOPe. From my perspective, she's established political credibility and even more importantly she's demonstrated political acumen and minimized her risk in doing so.
Just my thoughts. YMMV.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 24, 2015 10:10 AM (60Vyp)
I need to thank you for all terrific work you have been doing for all these months on these threads. It is quite clarifying
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 24, 2015 10:12 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: KWDreaming at January 24, 2015 10:14 AM (/yOZJ)
@82
Yep. The media is the toughest enemy that we face.....and most of the GOPe hacks don't even realize it. The media easily give the dems 5-10% advantage out of the gate....which is like saying they have been the margin of difference in most Presidential elections that democrats win....which they are, in my opinion.
We need attack dogs to go after the media. You'd think the GOPe would take advantage of MRC and other outlets to get some good info on the leftist hacks in the media and occasionally use in on the Sunday morning talkfests....but.... NO. #AsshatsINTheGOPe
Posted by: AllTheLeftistNarrativeThat'sFitToPrint at January 24, 2015 10:14 AM (7GRVs)
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 10:16 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 24, 2015 10:17 AM (MbqmP)
You know what? I could go for that. At least Tom Brady knows what ISIS is.
Seriously, though, I just want a decent conservative who can win on the national stage... and beat up on the MSM and the Dems in the process, if possible.
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 10:18 AM (9BRsg)
We'll get a batch of candidate, some good, some bad.
The Media will relentlessly, and I mean NON-STOP, attack the Conservative ones. To the point where many outlets, such as, oh, I dunno, @## 0# $##### will tell us those folks are "unelectable."
When people hear enough times that candidate X is "unelectable," even by conservative websites, support will erode for those folks.
At the same time, the Media will give us puff pieces about the one or two candidates they would like to see in the GOP slot, telling everyone they
re "reasonable" and not "extreme" and hence "electable." To the point where many outlets, such as, oh, I dunno, @## 0# $##### will tell us those folks are "electable" and thus "the only choice" and "you're throwing your vote away if you don't vote for [media's favorite]."
Folks will, reluctantly perhaps, start to shift their choice from someone with principles to someone who is electable.[/]
And we'll lose once again.
My prediction? The Media will chose Chris Christie. Then, once he's the nominee, they'll shift and we'll hear endlessly about his weight (health issues) and Bridgegate, we'll be told, was a million times worse then Benghazi.
And we'll let it happen again.
Posted by: Null at January 24, 2015 10:20 AM (xjpRj)
She seemed to have some fire in the belly.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 24, 2015 10:21 AM (IXrOn)
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Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 24, 2015 10:21 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Null at January 24, 2015 10:21 AM (xjpRj)
I second that Y-Not. Its nice to have someone dependable doing research work that most of us generally, and I in particular loath.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 24, 2015 10:21 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Baldy at January 24, 2015 10:21 AM (+35FH)
HAHA!! times 10 to the 100th power.
Posted by: eman at January 24, 2015 10:22 AM (MQEz6)
"Well, Barbara, I think I would be the kind of tree that slowly strips down to its skivvies, & proceeds to give Obama a long, sensual, full-body massage working down to a happy ending that would make Hugh Hefner tear up. & my sap would be Tastykakes."
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 24, 2015 10:24 AM (MbqmP)
As I've said before, there are any number of talk radio hosts who should be employed as debate moderators. Even the squishy ones I don't like, such as Medved and Bennett, would still make good moderators. I think Dennis Prager would be outstanding.
But I would still want to hear Levin say, "Get off the podium, you big dope!"
Posted by: rickl at January 24, 2015 10:24 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade at January 24, 2015 10:24 AM (cmBvC)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 24, 2015 10:24 AM (zOTsN)
Perry, Walker, Cruz. I don't think Cruz has a chance in hell of winning a general election, but it will be enjoyable to watch the MSM paint the GOP as anti-Hispanic with a Hispanic as the presidential nominee.
Walker's lack of a college degree will hurt as well in a general election. He will be mocked as the dumb guy who couldn't even finish college. And thanks to never ending SNL skits, Daily Show mockery, etc it will become "fact" among the LIV that he dropped out of 10th grade and failed a GED test.
Perry is the one guy in this field that can go on the offensive, tell the MSM to go fuck themselves. He also has a pretty good sense of humor, can make fun of himself and is likable.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2015 10:25 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Pedantic Jerk at January 24, 2015 10:26 AM (yxw0r)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 24, 2015 10:24 AM (zOTsN)
It's not too late for Charlie Crist to switch parties again. He seems likeable, he has experience, & he's proven he can get elected.
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 24, 2015 10:28 AM (MbqmP)
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Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 10:29 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 24, 2015 10:28 AM (zOTsN)
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You need insiders to win. And by definition, insiders are odious SOBs
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2015 10:30 AM (0LHZx)
Perry/Walker
And then Walker runs after so people are comfortable with him and don't care about the degree
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 24, 2015 10:31 AM (zOTsN)
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Yeah.
The big question for me is does he have his shit together this time. I would love to run on Texas' record.
Barring that, I am becoming very interested in Bobby Jindal. He has gravitas, despite his slight build. And he is really starting to position himself on foreign policy as well.
But, man o' man, I wish Nikki Haley would consider running. She has a lot of the qualities that I think it'll take to win this time.
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 10:31 AM (9BRsg)
132 I'm going with Belichick / Brady for teh win....
Posted by: KWDreaming at January 24, 2015 10:14 AM (/yOZJ)
At least you can be sure that they have enough fire in the belly to put in the effort to cheat.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 24, 2015 10:32 AM (yDqYW)
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 24, 2015 10:33 AM (4gN5w)
We need an executive.
That whittles it down. Dump Bush and Christie, that whittles it down more.
I'm gonna call Herbert West, to see what he can do.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at January 24, 2015 10:33 AM (yxw0r)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 24, 2015 10:34 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade at January 24, 2015 10:34 AM (cmBvC)
Pro-tip: don't let your adversary moderate your debates.
Posted by: PJ at January 24, 2015 10:37 AM (cHuNI)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 24, 2015 10:38 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at January 24, 2015 10:38 AM (wT9UL)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 24, 2015 10:38 AM (zOTsN)
162 I see Reince has signed up with the networks again to help destroy the GOP field.Pro-tip: don't let your adversary moderate your debates.
Posted by: PJ at January 24, 2015 10:37 AM (cHuNI)
If they want to broadcast it fine. But the moderators should not be network stooges. Of course Reince wouldn't do any better in selecting moderators anyway.
Posted by: buzzion at January 24, 2015 10:39 AM (zt+N6)
Be. He has a long record of being his own worst enemy. If he can make it through a primary and then a general without stomping on his own junk too bad then I'll bother to vote for him.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 24, 2015 10:39 AM (g0iKS)
Posted by: DaveA at January 24, 2015 10:41 AM (DL2i+)
Nothing to add, except, thanks for the post and comments, all. Not that it improves the candidates, but it helps with thinking about them.
Posted by: mindful webworker - running late at January 24, 2015 10:41 AM (b/6cr)
"Lotsa candidates here who look tempting but have at least one major skeleton rattlin' around in their closets."
It's the same danged skeleton, and if they dont have it, the donors wont have him. They outta give the skeleton amnesty so it can come out of the danged closet. Might as well carry it around openly.
"See, I want the illegals to stay and use up obamacare dollars."
Cruz/Tequila 2016. Eat the worm.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at January 24, 2015 10:42 AM (wT9UL)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 24, 2015 10:42 AM (9BRsg)
we have so much going against it. media balls to the walls openly left. urban/ cities voting for their free ride, acadamia, hellywood advocates. stupid Republican advisers chosen to 'help'
all the free positive press for the left.
i would appreciate a pick me up from those of you that know much more than i and that i trust that we have a chance.
Posted by: willow at January 24, 2015 10:44 AM (nqBYe)
However, Reince Priebus is an ass - these are Republican debates - he should have veto over the interviewers. No fat chicks. No shrimps. And there should be two Conservative Forum debates.
Y-not, stone cold sober> I would like to see a Haley Jindel ticket. Either order, just to watch the heads of the dems explode. Regardless, she should be in the debates.
Posted by: Brendan at January 24, 2015 10:45 AM (8YVZT)
Posted by: willow at January 24, 2015 10:46 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Brendan at January 24, 2015 10:47 AM (8YVZT)
They pre-blew it last year and have gone backwards or done nothing of note ever since. If they were worth a bowl of spit TFG would be vetoing something important and needed every day.
Posted by: DaveA at January 24, 2015 10:50 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Hillary! at January 24, 2015 10:52 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: DaveA at January 24, 2015 10:52 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: goatexchange at January 24, 2015 10:53 AM (LJhQt)
BUT - Cruz and Walker are my favorites overall.
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Rule #1: NOMINATE THE CONSERVATIVE. Why? Because we went the other way the last 2 times and it was a disaster. Meanwhile, conservatives have won big in 2010 and 2014. The conservative's conservative in the race will be Cruz. The #1 way to get the RINO wing and the GOPe folks to start LISTENING to the base is to nominate Cruz.
"Yup. I am already sick of most of the rest. Especially Mitt, Jeb, Christie, Paul, Huck and Santorum."
Rule #2: Dont nominate anyone who hasnt won a race since 2006. Reason: It's a new electorate and new political landscape since Obama. They are obsolete. That knocks of Huck Santorum, Mitt, Jeb. They need to GO AWAY.
Christie is a gov (yawn), with a new jersey attitude (pass), who's not really that conservaitve (pass!) running against better
Rule #3: When a Paul runs, he splits conservative-libertarian votes and helps nominate the moderate - hence 2008 and 2012. Solution - reject and eschew any candidate named "Paul".
Conclusion: Oppose Paul. Oppose retreads. Oppose RINOs. Support a conservative.
Cruz - the logical conservative choice.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at January 24, 2015 10:54 AM (wT9UL)
Posted by: buzzion at January 24, 2015 10:54 AM (zt+N6)
Sure he is, but he's running under the name Ted Cruz.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at January 24, 2015 10:55 AM (wT9UL)
If Perry comes out of the gate strong, he is likely to recapture a lot of the enthusiasm he had when he entered 2012. Walker has a strong following and I think Jindal also seems to have some support. The key there is that both Walker and Jindal seem like candidates that both conservatives and "establishment" people could back.
Not to go all Identity Politics or anything, but I am dismayed that there are currently no women that the GOP seems to be considering. (I've seen Martinez' name appear on a few polls, but I think that's b/c she's a Latina more than anything else, frankly.) I guess they're so determined to shove one of the RINO Diablos down our throats that they can't think outside the box at all. (no pun intended)
Nikki Haley would be a GREAT candidate even WITH a Y chromosome, but without one I think she'd be an excellent person to run against Hillary.
I haven't given up yet. I think Perry said he'd formally announce around June, so there's still time for Haley.
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 10:55 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: willow at January 24, 2015 10:44 AM (nqBYe)
throws out a small tidbit of sugar:
nomoreobama
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 24, 2015 10:56 AM (IXrOn)
real conservative principles should at least consider starting a new
party"
Nice rant, but we have a party and the way to make a difference is to take over the party we have not leave it to the RINOs and moderates.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at January 24, 2015 10:57 AM (wT9UL)
Posted by: DaveA at January 24, 2015 10:59 AM (DL2i+)
I liek Martinez but she doesn't have the background that Cruz does. Cruz seems to have a well rounded internal information base, and i had only worried about His status (canadian)
also like Walker- Haley.
i think we have some very good candidates i am just worried about the beating any one of them will take at this point with the media and my previous list so openly advocating for the left.
Posted by: willow at January 24, 2015 11:01 AM (nqBYe)
jobs, threatening rich, divisiveness i thought was un american.
but people seemed to slurp it up.
Posted by: willow at January 24, 2015 11:03 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: goatexchange at January 24, 2015 11:04 AM (LJhQt)
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I think Martinez may be too "centrist" and I don't think she's got much of a stage presence for a national election. Plus, her state is an economic mess. I mean, I'd vote for her over a lot of these other turds, but I am not sure she'd be able to beat Hillary.
I love Ted Cruz. The only thing I am not keen on is his "End the IRS" thing (but I'm going to read up on it and see if I'm missing something). But I don't think this is his year. I would be ok if he entered the race just to try to help frame the issues and make the others talk to conservatives, but I think he should mostly try to help support the best available conservative against the RINO Diablos.
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 11:06 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at January 24, 2015 11:11 AM (KuU4f)
Yeah, it's depressing, isn't it DangerGirl?
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 11:12 AM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Tony253 at January 24, 2015 11:12 AM (3yMFT)
i agree Cruz can help frame lead the discussions , I hope for a more conservative leadership and a win would be amazing. (prays )
time will tell .
Posted by: willow at January 24, 2015 11:14 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: despair at January 24, 2015 11:14 AM (dcY7v)
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 11:12 AM (9BRsg)
Yeah, it is. Most of the time I feel like they really don't care if they win or lose.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at January 24, 2015 11:16 AM (KuU4f)
Posted by: goatexchange at January 24, 2015 11:17 AM (LJhQt)
Last time around Perry was the chum while the rest of pack circled like sharks. Few were the attacks on Romney. Bachmann was a prime example with that child inoculation crap on Perry and treating Romney with kid gloves.
Hopefully this time around they'll remember who the real enemy is.
Posted by: waelse1 at January 24, 2015 11:18 AM (vxyBi)
Posted by: Oschisms at January 24, 2015 11:24 AM (uqV2n)
Posted by: Oschisms at January 24, 2015 11:27 AM (uqV2n)
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Sacred honor compels me to mention Nikki Haley.
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 11:27 AM (9BRsg)
Perry Jindal Walker Cruz.
Vote anyone else off the danged island.
I checked the calendar. If we have a 12 candidate field and a 'super primary' where its all in one vote ... then we are going to a brokered convention.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at January 24, 2015 11:28 AM (wT9UL)
Posted by: Huggy at January 24, 2015 11:28 AM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: Y-not, stone cold sober at January 24, 2015 11:28 AM (9BRsg)
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Cruz/Martinez - our lawns would look great!!
Posted by: goatexchange at January 24, 2015 11:32 AM (LJhQt)
Announce the Conservative Party and encourage people to join it. If it doesn't get significant support with the people, well then you know the conservative cause is a minority cause and go forward (or not) with that knowledge.
The problem I see is that a new party will fail if staffed by enthusiastic political amateurs - and it will fail to stay conservative if staffed by political professionals.
Posted by: despair at January 24, 2015 11:41 AM (dcY7v)
Anyone who thinks Prince Reba is anything other than part of the problem must have slept through 2012.
Posted by: A pot of message at January 24, 2015 11:42 AM (LORBg)
Posted by: Loveulongtime at January 24, 2015 11:47 AM (mdg8n)
I really don't want Cruz to run. Not just because lack of executive
experience, I shudder at what Texas would replace him with; they'd ALL
be worse. We have an opportunity to keep him in the Senate for 6 terms.
(I'd rather there were term limits, but...)"
Why shudder? Do you realize how darned conservative Dan Patrick is? Or that our whole slate of statewides, with the exception of George P Bush our new Ag comm. are uber-conservatives? Sid Miller, Glen Hagar, Dan Patrick, Ken Paxton, and Greg Abbott ... in pretty much all cases they were more conservative than the guy they replaced. The Straus candidates (like Dan Branch) got smoked. Ted Cruz beating Dewhurst was just the first of multiple primaries showing the tea party conservatives will defeat moderates in Texas GOP primaries. Dan Patrick might make the leap,
I get your point. Ted Cruz is worth a dozen of your other Senators, not just the Conyn types but even other conservatives. But our next GOP Senator will be a conservative (unless his name is George P Bush.)
I dont think Cruz has a high probability of getting in the white house, but the other path even if he runs (and doesnt get the nomination etc) is indeed to stay in the senate. running doesnt force him to give up his senate seat. The only thing I would shudder at is if he ends up as a VP, he's more useful where he's at than as a VP.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at January 24, 2015 11:52 AM (wT9UL)
Cruz Lee
Cruz a Supreme Court lawyer to address the current illegalities
Lee spearheading 17 states legal challenge to the taking of western lands
the A. G must be an absolute bureaucratic monster
see you on reset
Posted by: heavily armed redoubt at January 24, 2015 11:55 AM (cviLU)
lackluster campaign performance with McCain (*spits*) as a developing
star. She's gone on to become a rent free occupant in every liberal head
and she draws fire from them whenever she comments or responds to an
issue."
Some day a Palin fan is going to explain what this even means. The Base is so demoralized that it's trying to rally itself to attempt to screw over the party that's supposed to be on its side... but Palin once said a thing that accomplished nothing, you guys!
Posted by: Shoot Me at January 24, 2015 11:56 AM (EQcfE)
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Posted by: Chris at January 24, 2015 12:31 PM (8ds2u)
Sarah, have you ever heard the story of the boy who cried wolf?
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