Moroccan-Born Mayor of Rotterdam, on Live TV: Muslims Can Either Accept The Western Way of Freedom or Pack Their Bags, Go Home, and Otherwise "Fuck Off"


Advertise Here! Support Contact Ace: aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd.aoshq at gee mail.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com Syndicate this site (XML) Powered by Movable Type	Moroccan-Born Mayor of Rotterdam, on Live TV: Muslims Can Either Accept The Western Way of Freedom or Pack Their Bags, Go Home, and Otherwise "Fuck Off" Speaking truth to terror. The Moroccan-born mayor of Rotterdam has said Muslim immigrants who do not appreciate the way of life in Western civilisations can 'f* off'. Ahmed Aboutaleb, who arrived in the Netherlands aged 15, spoke out in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris last week. Appearing on live television just hours after the shootings, Mayor Aboutaleb said Muslims who 'do not like freedom can pack your bags and leave'. Labour politician Ahmed Aboutaleb, a former journalist who was appointed mayor of the Dutch city in 2008, is known for his straight-forward stance on integration. ... 'It is incomprehensible that you can turn against freedom,' Mayor Aboutaleb told Dutch current affairs program Nieuwsuur (Newshour). 'But if you don't like freedom, for heaven's sake pack your bags and leave. 'If you do not like it here because some humorists you don't like are making a newspaper, may I then say you can f* off. 'This is stupid, this so incomprehensible. Vanish from the Netherlands if you cannot find your place here. All those well-meaning Muslims here will now be stared at'. He moved to the Netherlands at age 15. He's the son of an imam. In related news, New York Times editor Dean Baquet whimpered, "Please don't hurt me. I'll s* your d. Just don't hurt me." Posted by: Ace at 11:12 AM Comments (Jump to bottom of comments) 1 I think we found our "moderate Muslim." Posted by: HR at January 13, 2015 10:28 AM (ZKzrr) 2 So who goes first? He or al-SiSi? That I am not joking asking that proves why those statements must be made. Posted by: alexthechick - aboniation at January 13, 2015 11:05 AM (mf5HN) 3 the brothas won't like this. Hope he has good security. Posted by: The Prophet Some Dope at January 13, 2015 11:06 AM (hKyl0) 4 Je Suis Aboutaleb. Posted by: Lincolntf at January 13, 2015 11:06 AM (2cS/G) 5 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 13, 2015 11:07 AM (kff5f) 6 So who goes first? He or al-SiSi? That I am not joking asking that proves why those statements must be made. $10 on the mayor. Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2015 11:07 AM (JP4JT) 7 Mohammedism is an evil death cult. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 13, 2015 11:07 AM (kff5f) 8 Sometimes I appreciate a blunt f-bomb Posted by: Nonapod at January 13, 2015 11:07 AM (CLP9I) 9 Finally. Now can all the gutless leaders say it too? Posted by: PJ at January 13, 2015 11:07 AM (cHuNI) 10 As I said in the earlier post; a minority of one. Posted by: Vic at January 13, 2015 11:07 AM (wlDny) 11 Which muslims does Obama stand with now? Posted by: Meremortal at January 13, 2015 11:08 AM (1Y+hH) 12 How refreshing! This is what it will take, people from their own community pushing back, reforming. Posted by: Lizzy at January 13, 2015 11:08 AM (ABcz/) 13 Now that's what I call a Moroccan Stomp! Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 13, 2015 11:08 AM (wtvvX) 14 Sometimes I appreciate a blunt f-bomb* Yeah, that was nice. And because I'm kind of cynical today....over/under on when some immoderate Mohammedan walks up and stabs Mayor Aboutaleb? Posted by: HR at January 13, 2015 11:09 AM (ZKzrr) 15 "So who goes first? He or al-SiSi? " We talking over/under on days as well? I'll throw in a ten spot on "30 days" for at least one of the two... Posted by: anon a mouse at January 13, 2015 11:09 AM (/jpU8) 16 As I said in the earlier post; a minority of one. Posted by: Vic at January 13, 2015 11:07 AM (wlDny) No, that's two. He and al-SiSi. Posted by: alexthechick - aboniation at January 13, 2015 11:09 AM (mf5HN) 17 BRASS. BALLS. Remember when our Presidents had them? Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 13, 2015 11:09 AM (wtvvX) 18 There was some guy in Egypt to said Islam needs to reform. So there are two voices now. Posted by: Cedar Savage at January 13, 2015 11:10 AM (s0R4n) 19 In related news, New York Times editor Dean Baquet whimpered, "Please don't hurt me. I'll s* your d. Just don't hurt me." What is love? Baby, don't hurt me Don't hurt me no more Posted by: Haddaway at January 13, 2015 11:10 AM (136wp) 20 WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- West Virginia quietly passed the ignominious milestone of having less than half of its adult, civilian population in the workforce in November. State data compiled by the Labor Department shows that West Virginia's civilian labor participation rate has fallen to 49.8%, from 50% in October. The national rate in December was 62.7%. Posted by: #BringBackOurHumVees at January 13, 2015 11:10 AM (ugwJg) 21 Which muslims does Obama stand with now? Posted by: Meremortal at January 13, 2015 11:08 AM (1Y+hH) The ones that hate the west, although I am guessing that is rhetorical. Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 13, 2015 11:10 AM (wyI5D) 22 we need to send Hillary! to give him a good talking to about empathy. Posted by: mallfly at January 13, 2015 11:11 AM (zjcTL) 23 Which muslims does Obama stand with now?* I'm sure the dog-eating crackhead thinks the mayor isn't a "real" muslim. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 13, 2015 11:11 AM (zF6Iw) 24 The man is clearly an islamaphobe and a bigot. I declare a fatwa Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:11 AM (Q4q6O) 25 Poor poor Dean Baquet. Posted by: toby928(C) at January 13, 2015 11:11 AM (evdj2) 26 No, that's two. He and al-SiSi. King Abdullah (Jordan) and Salman Rushdie. It's a wave. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2015 11:11 AM (659DL) 27 There are only two things I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch. Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at January 13, 2015 11:11 AM (vgIRn) 28 Eh... the guy was APPOINTED Mayor? In 2008??? Perhaps there are some aspects of Western Civilization that haven't quite gotten to Rotterdam yet. Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2015 11:11 AM (TOk1P) 29 2 So who goes first? He or al-SiSi? Posted by: alexthechick - aboniation at January 13, 2015 11:05 AM (mf5HN) As I said in the podcast, he who has the guns, wins. Mayor gets done first. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 13, 2015 11:11 AM (da5Wo) 30 >>Which muslims does Obama stand with now? Iran, Muslim Brotherhood, the Taliban - these are all folks he can, and is, working with. Posted by: Lizzy at January 13, 2015 11:12 AM (ABcz/) 31 Balls Big clanging brass balls OT: just bid on another .45 I'm addicted Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 13, 2015 11:12 AM (vW8Mk) 32 CNN calls Aboutaleb an Uncle Tom in 3...2...1.... Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2015 11:12 AM (659DL) 33 He is the extremist Obama has warned us about. Arrest that man. Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:13 AM (Q4q6O) 34 The Prophet Ace is among us. let us all face the Pixy server...And watch it as it spasms. Posted by: Blue Hen at January 13, 2015 11:13 AM (Spluw) 35 The Prophet Ace, This guy is not only standing up to militant Islam, he is proof positive that assimilation is the answer. Posted by: Je Suis Charlie Martel (CBD) at January 13, 2015 11:13 AM (Zu3d9) 36 Let the cascade begin. It's long overdue. Posted by: Fritz at January 13, 2015 11:13 AM (UzPAd) 37 No unity March for you! Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:13 AM (Q4q6O) 38 But first you will suck my commie dick. Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 13, 2015 11:13 AM (XzRw1) 39 So, also not joking, how long until he's brought up on hate speech charges? Posted by: Lauren at January 13, 2015 11:13 AM (MYCIw) 40 I don't really buy into the idea of the "moderate" Muslim, I think it's more a case of some being "Cafeteria catholics" that don't really buy into the program but culturally still call themselves Muslims. Something tells me this guy that's telling them to f#ck off doesn't drop to a mat and point himself at Mecca everyday, despite being the son of an Imam. We rightfully call out Scientologists for their crazy religion and Church, why on Earth are we not allowed to make the link between Islam and terrorism? The idea that this is isolated to a small faction is ridiculous. Posted by: McAdams at January 13, 2015 11:13 AM (lSbwO) 41 The State Department official position is to ignore the Dutch, and today is no exception. Dean Baquet, on the other hand, has earned our slavish devotion. By the way, Dean, not playing the race card there. Just making an appropriately submissive declaration of our enduring love for you. Posted by: State Department Spokesbitchez at January 13, 2015 11:13 AM (6um35) 42 2 So who goes first? He or al-SiSi? That I am not joking asking that proves why those statements must be made. Posted by: alexthechick - aboniation at January 13, 2015 11:05 AM (mf5HN) The mayor. Al-sisi has the military to protect plus Egyptians fresh memory of what it was like with the Muslim brotherhood in charge. This guy does not. Posted by: Buzzion at January 13, 2015 11:13 AM (gZXlp) 43 The Prophet Ace is among us. FBUH. Posted by: toby928(C) at January 13, 2015 11:14 AM (evdj2) 44 In related news, New York Times editor Dean Baquet whimpered, "Please don't hurt me. I'll s* your d* be your goat. Just don't hurt me." Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 13, 2015 11:14 AM (GqEzX) 45 This man does not represent true islam! Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:15 AM (Q4q6O) 46 FBUH Also LP. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2015 11:15 AM (659DL) 47 "So who goes first? He or al-SiSi? " We talking over/under on days as well? I'll throw in a ten spot on "30 days" for at least one of the two... --- al-Sisi has an army to protect him, the mayor may have police. Posted by: Methos at January 13, 2015 11:15 AM (A6vWB) 48 43 - Furry backs under him? Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2015 11:15 AM (TOk1P) 49 Awesome. Sorry to hear he's Labour, but in a way that's a bonus. May there be more like him. (I know others - but it takes a real effort some days to remind myself they're there.) Posted by: JPS at January 13, 2015 11:15 AM (J9O/s) 50 Hey, we have shareholders to think of! I have an entire Risk Management staff on the payroll. You think those risks are going to manage themselves? Posted by: Dean Bagquet, Dick Sucker at January 13, 2015 11:15 AM (HBAcW) 51 Fatwas have been issued... Posted by: Abdhul Abulbul Amir at January 13, 2015 11:15 AM (qh617) 52 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2015 11:11 AM (659DL) Abdullah is a weak little whore who is desperately trying to remain in power. He is very lucky that his father built a strong army and security service, and created a strong (if secret) relationship with Israel. Posted by: Je Suis Charlie Martel (CBD) at January 13, 2015 11:15 AM (Zu3d9) 53 Hate speech! Sic CAIR on him Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:16 AM (Q4q6O) 54 Je Suis Aboutaleb. - Good cartoon. http://tinyurl.com/ohykcj9 Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 13, 2015 11:16 AM (j6e8f) 55 Fun Bags Uniquely Handled? Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at January 13, 2015 11:16 AM (vgIRn) 56 43. FBUH?!! fapping be upon him? Ace is going to need some paper towels asap Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 13, 2015 11:17 AM (vW8Mk) 57 The Prophet would not approve of this mayor or his incendiary rant. Posted by: Carol Costello at January 13, 2015 11:17 AM (1BQGO) 58 Hey republicans.....this is what true leadership looks like sigh Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at January 13, 2015 11:17 AM (uJK1E) 59 I need a translation of what Dean Baquet actually said if someone could do that please because I don't feel like looking for him. How did he cave to Islam? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2015 11:17 AM (DXzRD) 60 "Sorry to hear he's Labour..." Well, now I've heard everything in this brave, new, transgendered world. Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 13, 2015 11:17 AM (HBAcW) 61 Abdullah is a weak little whore who is desperately trying to remain in power. He is very lucky that his father built a strong army and security service, and created a strong (if secret) relationship with Israel. Posted by: Je Suis Charlie Martel (CBD) at January 13, 2015 11:15 AM (Zu3d9) That may all very well be true, but he is banging Rania. So, you know, he's got that going for him. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 13, 2015 11:17 AM (da5Wo) 62 Clearly, this Mayor is lacking in understand of true Islam Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 13, 2015 11:17 AM (t/u7b) 63 Go State! Posted by: toby928(C) at January 13, 2015 11:17 AM (evdj2) 64 This man must be hounded out of office! The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet! Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:18 AM (Q4q6O) 65 Abdullah is a weak little whore who is desperately trying to remain in power. He is very lucky that his father built a strong army and security service, and created a strong (if secret) relationship with Israel. Outside of al-Sisi,name a better Arab leader. I'll wait. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2015 11:18 AM (659DL) 66 Eh... the guy was APPOINTED Mayor? "Mayor" chairs the city council meetings. Big whoop. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgemeester The US has something similar, where the council hires a manager. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council%E2%80%93manager_government Posted by: HR at January 13, 2015 11:18 AM (ZKzrr) 67 Rub Obama's nose on this guy - maybe some man will rub off on him. Posted by: Clutch Cargo at January 13, 2015 11:18 AM (sH832) 68 AtC & BCochran, listening to your podcast now. Posted by: @votermom at January 13, 2015 11:18 AM (cbfNE) 69 another good cartoon. http://tinyurl.com/qymgrgq Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 13, 2015 11:18 AM (j6e8f) 70 The Prophet Ace? VRBUH. Posted by: naturalfake at January 13, 2015 11:18 AM (0cMkb) 71 Obama said the violence by the attackers was wrong. Then the 'White House' questioned the judgment of the cartoonists. Then Obama and Biden said the attackers have nothing to do with islam. Then Obama said doing things to upset muslims (who had nothing to do with the attacks according to him) wasn't a good idea. I think he's experiencing some cognitive dissonance. Posted by: Meremortal at January 13, 2015 11:18 AM (1Y+hH) 72 Anti immigrant nativist! Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:18 AM (Q4q6O) 73 Obama talking and Boehner sitting next to him smiling like a five year old sitting next to Superman. Yuck. Obama boasting about how the economy is doing so well. Posted by: mallfly at January 13, 2015 11:19 AM (zjcTL) 74 Je suis Ahmed. He's the only one with a set of balls. Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2015 11:19 AM (GGCsk) 75 If he were an American, Obama's IRS would be getting ready to audit. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:19 AM (0LHZx) 76 I don't really buy into the idea of the "moderate" Muslim, I think it's more a case of some being "Cafeteria catholics" that don't really buy into the program but culturally still call themselves Muslims. Yep. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2015 11:19 AM (DXzRD) 77 We rightfully call out Scientologists for their crazy religion and Church, why on Earth are we not allowed to make the link between Islam and terrorism? The idea that this is isolated to a small faction is ridiculous. Posted by: McAdams at January 13, 2015 11:13 AM (lSbwO) Because Scientologists will sick their lawyers on you.... maybe... and lose in Court... Islam will send a suicide bomber to your door, to Martyr himself... There is no modern religion which you can compare Islam to... Posted by: Bb Wolf at January 13, 2015 11:19 AM (qh617) 78 Wow, talk about a Cut. Jib. Newsletter. moment. Posted by: Sharkman at January 13, 2015 11:19 AM (NC2VN) 79 Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at January 13, 2015 11:17 AM (uJK1E) Are there any Muslim Republican elected officials? The Dims, of course, have several. Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 13, 2015 11:19 AM (HBAcW) 80 1 I think we found our "moderate Muslim." And (I suspect) our first-ever Muslim honorary 'ron. Posted by: Citizen X at January 13, 2015 11:20 AM (7ObY1) 81 "one of the thing we're going to be talking about is cybersecurity" Posted by: mallfly at January 13, 2015 11:20 AM (zjcTL) 82 No, that's two. He and al-SiSi. King Abdullah (Jordan) and Salman Rushdie. It's a wave. Only 999,999,996 to go. Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2015 11:20 AM (JP4JT) 83 $10 on the mayor. Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2015 11:07 AM (JP4JT) Yep. Military dictators tend to have better security. Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 13, 2015 11:20 AM (HBAcW) 84 "making sure everybody is paying their fair share" Posted by: mallfly at January 13, 2015 11:20 AM (zjcTL) 85 OT: just bid on another .45 I'm addicted Five words: M1911 Posted by: Clutch Cargo at January 13, 2015 11:21 AM (sH832) 86 Notice how this story is ignored by all the whimpering toads in the US media? That's because they're used to a set of balls banging against their chin, not hanging between their legs. Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2015 11:21 AM (GGCsk) 87 Good for this guy. That is exactly the message that needs to be said to all these people who refuse to assimilate. It's high time everyone stop coddling these savages and assimilating to their demands. It's ultimatum time. The no-go zones need to be heavily infiltrated and any resistance needs to be utterly squashed on the spot. Repeat as needed until the message gets out far and wide that if they want to usurp the laws of the land with the 7th century savage mentality they brought with them, then a swift deportation, or worse is waiting for them. And for crying out loud, don't let any more of these evil people into the country! Posted by: Havedash at January 13, 2015 11:21 AM (gvqyH) 88 Boehner really doesn't have a natural skin color, does he..? Posted by: mallfly at January 13, 2015 11:21 AM (zjcTL) 89 He moved there when he was old enough to appreciate it. He's a 1st generation immigrant. The 2nd and 3rd generation are more radical than the 1st. The 1st gen of Muslims to the West were happy for the freedom and money and to escape the violence and poverty of their home country. The 2nd and 3rd are raised in pussy Western culture that says all white people are evil racists that hate anybody who isn't a pasty white Christian. They are raised to hate their host country - not by their parents, but by self-loathing Western culture. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 13, 2015 11:21 AM (ZPrif) 90 So, also not joking, how long until he's brought up on hate speech charges? After he gets stabbed, but before he succumbs to the injuries. Oh, and "Moroccan" is probably important here. My understanding is that Morocco is a popular vacation destination for gay Europeans; their Islam is a little less strident than in other regions. Posted by: HR at January 13, 2015 11:21 AM (ZKzrr) 91 There is no modern religion which you can compare Islam to... ALF & ELF? Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2015 11:22 AM (JP4JT) 92 Pretty sure he is a "lapsed" mohammedan Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:22 AM (Q4q6O) 93 WHO WAS DEAD? Posted by: The Who Was Phone Guy at January 13, 2015 11:22 AM (vgIRn) 94 17 BRASS. BALLS. Remember when our Presidents had them? "Mr. Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" And the MFM gasped and swooned onto their fainting sofas, muttering about cowboys and World War III. Which made it all the sweeter when the wall came down. Posted by: Citizen X at January 13, 2015 11:22 AM (7ObY1) 95 Boehner really doesn't have a natural skin color, does he..? He's a negative Smurf. Posted by: Clutch Cargo at January 13, 2015 11:22 AM (sH832) 96 Wow. Who knew Rotterdam had a Tea Party? Posted by: US MEDIA at January 13, 2015 11:22 AM (GGCsk) 97 There is no modern religion which you can compare Islam to... Posted by: Bb Wolf at January 13, 2015 11:19 AM (qh617) How about the about the radical pro-choicers? Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 13, 2015 11:23 AM (HBAcW) 98 Surely the Netherlands has "hate speech" laws, don't they? If they do then this is all hypocritical - Muslims are merely asking to be treated fairly under the law. If hate speech against Jews is criminalized, surely blasphemy against Islam should be as well, right? Posted by: Geraldine Ferraro at January 13, 2015 11:23 AM (XpAxm) 99 91 There is no modern religion which you can compare Islam to... Earth First? Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:23 AM (oKE6c) 100 Apostate I think Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:23 AM (Q4q6O) 101 >>There is no modern religion which you can compare Islam to... >>ALF ELF? Yep. And they also commit acts of terrorism. Posted by: Lizzy at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (ABcz/) 102 Honey Badger. He don't give a fuck. Posted by: Marcus T. at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (GGCsk) 103 Are we finally seeing the Great Mohammedism Awakening? Are the Mohammedans finally realizing that either their religion must change, or the so-called "moderates" must be judged with fundamentalists? Could we possibly be seeing the beginning of the end Terror as a mainstream piece of Mohammedism? Or will these voices of reason be executed and rejected for their apostasy? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (kff5f) 104 OT: There are many many types of boobeh's according to Crayola. http://tinyurl.com/pa9txdg I'm kinda liking the sweet potatoes. Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (XzRw1) 105 Yep. Military dictators tend to have better security. And intel. That was my thinking. Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (JP4JT) 106 And the vast majority of the Muslim world thinks it's a good idea to kill apostates Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (Q4q6O) 107 We rightfully call out Scientologists for their crazy religion and Church, why on Earth are we not allowed to make the link between Islam and terrorism? The idea that this is isolated to a small faction is ridiculous. ___________ But at the same time, the idea that every singly muslim wants to slit your throat is also ridiculous. I've mentioned this before...I've known many Muslims over the years. Some MINO types, some deeply religious. And they were all pretty cool and I honestly didn't think had any urge to go out and blow up a building. My guess is it's about 70/10/20...70% are decent people, 10% are Osama types and another 20% aren't quite Osama types but don't exactly condemn Osama types either. Of course 10% of a billion is a lot of people. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (0LHZx) 108 That's pretty blunt - no having your cake while eating it at the same time. I wish the man well and hope that his words do convince some to go elsewhere. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Learn Rantin', Ravin', and Ragetwitchin' at the Outrage Outlet! at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (g+akU) 109 Morrocan born Mayor of Rotterdam arrested and impeachedunder European Hate Speech laws in 5... 4... 3... Posted by: Darth Randall at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (6n332) 110 I think the Mayor of Rotterdam just insulted the prophet of islam. Maybe I'll drone-strike his azz. Posted by: Prezzy Prayer Rug at January 13, 2015 11:25 AM (1Y+hH) 111 97 There is no modern religion which you can compare Islam to... The Amish According to TLC they have their own mafia Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 13, 2015 11:25 AM (vW8Mk) 112 Muslim voices are coming out of the woodwork. It's a trickle but it is a glaring courage vis-a-vis current crop of cowardly Western "intellectuals." Posted by: Russkilitlover at January 13, 2015 11:25 AM (UvIrr) 113 "...but he is banging Rania." Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 13, 2015 11:17 AM (da5Wo) Hard to argue with that. She is smokin' hot. Posted by: Je Suis Charlie Martel (CBD) at January 13, 2015 11:26 AM (Zu3d9) 114 Same thing happens in the US with African immigrants. African immigrants are the only immigrants cohort where the 2nd generation is worse off than the 1st. Nigerian immigrants who move are happy to become American and grateful for the opportunities and security and wealth America provides. And then their children are raised in America's anti-white, self-loathing culture that says America is fundamentally rotten and racist and tells black kids they have no hope, no chance of success cause of white racism. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 13, 2015 11:26 AM (ZPrif) 115 89 He moved there when he was old enough to appreciate it. He's a 1st generation immigrant. The 2nd and 3rd generation are more radical than the 1st. The 1st gen of Muslims to the West were happy for the freedom and money and to escape the violence and poverty of their home country. The 2nd and 3rd are raised in pussy Western culture that says all white people are evil racists that hate anybody who isn't a pasty white Christian. They are raised to hate their host country - not by their parents, but by self-loathing Western culture. Same problem exists to some extent with Mexicans here in CA. First generation is damned happy to shake the dust of Mexico from their feet. But later generations grow up marinating in ~~Communist Democrat~~ Communist grievance mongering spew, and decide that they're "oppressed," with all that that entails. Thanks, Reds! Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:26 AM (oKE6c) 116 Al-Sisi had a good point when he asked the Imams if it really please Allah for Moslems to be wiped out by the other 5/6ths of the world. Posted by: toby928(C) at January 13, 2015 11:26 AM (evdj2) 117 Speaking of which, I wonder if Rep. Keith Ellison has anything to say about all this? Nah, I don't wonder. Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 13, 2015 11:27 AM (HBAcW) 118 Yep. Military dictators tend to have better security. ------- Technically the Sisi is not a military dictator. He is a dictator for the military. Posted by: Egyptian Electoral Commission at January 13, 2015 11:27 AM (z27Ny) 119 Where were they when the Jewish school in toulouse got shot to hell. Bless him but it's a bit early. And way too late Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:27 AM (Q4q6O) 120 Oh, and "Moroccan" is probably important here. My understanding is that Morocco is a popular vacation destination for gay Europeans; their Islam is a little less strident than in other regions. Posted by: HR at January 13, 2015 11:21 AM (ZKzrr) _________ Morocco has an embassy in Israel too. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:27 AM (0LHZx) 121 77. I honestly don't think it's that, I'm not talking specifically about something like a cartoon that purposely inflames people, I mean just the idea that the mainstream media has to constantly draw distinctions that aren't really there. To me it's just more about the slavish devotion to PC and not criticizing a "brown" religion. The MSM would have you believe that all this terrorist activity is the "Westboro Baptist Church" of Islam, when I really think it's more like the general consensus. You don't elect majority governments like Hamas when only a "splinter" of Islam wants to engage in terrorist activity. Posted by: McAdams at January 13, 2015 11:27 AM (lSbwO) 122 >>Boehner: Amnesty fight with Obama is about runaway executive branch, not immigration<< No shit really? And I guess taxes are like a box of chocolates or something... Posted by: Marcus T. at January 13, 2015 11:27 AM (GGCsk) 123 >> Boehner really doesn't have a natural skin color, does he..? Posted by: mallfly He is kinda like a chamelion. You should see him when he sits on plaid. Posted by: Aviator at January 13, 2015 11:27 AM (b3p08) 124 >>Boehner: Amnesty fight with Obama is about runaway executive branch, not immigration<< Thanks Ohio. Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 13, 2015 11:28 AM (XzRw1) 125 That mayor of Rotterdam has nothing to do with islam! Posted by: Prezzy Prayer Rug at January 13, 2015 11:28 AM (1Y+hH) 126 And they were all pretty cool and I honestly didn't think had any urge to go out and blow up a building. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (0LHZx) You really don't get it. Moderate Muslims don't want to blow up buildings....they want radical Islamists to blow up buildings. Posted by: Je Suis Charlie Martel (CBD) at January 13, 2015 11:28 AM (Zu3d9) 127 But at the same time, the idea that every singly muslim wants to slit your throat is also ridiculous. The question isn't whether every single one wants to kill us/impose sharia law on the civilized world, but whether it is worthwhile to us to allow them to remain in our societies given the risk associated with those that do. Posted by: Methos at January 13, 2015 11:28 AM (A6vWB) 128 I've mentioned this before...I've known many Muslims over the years. Some MINO types, some deeply religious. And they were all pretty cool and I honestly didn't think had any urge to go out and blow up a building. My guess is it's about 70/10/20...70% are decent people, 10% are Osama types and another 20% aren't quite Osama types but don't exactly condemn Osama types either. Of course 10% of a billion is a lot of people. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (0LHZx) Fair point, but that's always true; it's the sociological equivalent of Pareto's Rule. Hell, it was true of the Germans, and probably true of the Japanese too. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:28 AM (oKE6c) 129 The 1st gen of Muslims to the West were happy for the freedom and money and to escape the violence and poverty of their home country. _______ Yep. That's why when US plays Mexico in Los Angeles, 80% of the fans are wearing red white and GREEN. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:29 AM (0LHZx) 130 But later generations grow up marinating in Communist Democrat Communist grievance mongering spew, and decide that they're "oppressed," with all that that entails. Thanks, Reds! Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:26 AM (oKE6c) ---- It is almost as though there is a problem with the educational system and/or perhaps some disease in the body politic. Posted by: RioBravo at January 13, 2015 11:29 AM (z27Ny) 131 We rightfully call out Scientologists for their crazy religion and Church, why on Earth are we not allowed to make the link between Islam and terrorism? The idea that this is isolated to a small faction is ridiculous. Posted by: McAdams at January 13, 2015 11:13 AM (lSbwO) ----------- Well, in deference to Scientology, the only bomb they have unleashed on the west was the movie "Battlefield Earth". Posted by: Darth Randall at January 13, 2015 11:29 AM (6n332) 132 Boehner really doesn't have a natural skin color, does he..? Posted by: mallfly at January 13, 2015 11:21 AM (zjcTL) You're just racist against Citrus-Americans. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 13, 2015 11:29 AM (TIIx5) 133 My guess is it's about 70/10/20...70% are decent people ... --- There's no need to guess. There's lots of survey data that actually asks muslims and produces meaningful results. Guessing based off the few muslims you happen to have run into is silly and has little value beyond anecdotes. It's a self-selected group of muslims who get along with non-muslims. Professional class whites can't generalize from the people they happen to run into, ppl self-selected for good behavior. No need to guess on data that can be googled. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 13, 2015 11:29 AM (ZPrif) 134 How can you stomp the lovely LauraW like that? Posted by: Garrett at January 13, 2015 11:30 AM (gY1su) 135 This is the only way the islamic terror nut gets cracked. Muslims have to self-police, and have to want to self-police. Muslims can't pick a side in some sense - picking the western side invites terror, picking the fundamentalist side invites drone strikes. They need to be their own side but ensure that side operates within the bounds of society. Posted by: 0302 at January 13, 2015 11:30 AM (N6eLE) 136 "The future does not belong to those who slander profit." -- Gordon Gekko Posted by: Cedar Savage at January 13, 2015 11:30 AM (s0R4n) 137 Boehner really doesn't have a natural skin color, does he..? Posted by: mallfly He is kinda like a chamelion. You should see him when he sits on plaid. - Deep down he's yellow. Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 13, 2015 11:30 AM (j6e8f) 138 I have Dutch friends. They have fled Holland, and live here now. They visit there from time-to-time. The story that they tell most often, is the story of all of the churches that have been converted to mosques. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 13, 2015 11:30 AM (028dR) 139 >>Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (0LHZx) << That's fine and leaves less for the flamethrower. Posted by: Marcus T. at January 13, 2015 11:30 AM (GGCsk) 140 My guess is it's about 70/10/20...70% are decent people, 10% are Osama types and another 20% aren't quite Osama types but don't exactly condemn Osama types either. Polls don't bear you out. Polls suggest that it's probably closer to 30/20/50. That is polls of actual Mohammedans wherein 70% (frequently) at least acknowledge that Terrorists are acting within the tenants of Mohammedism. Here in the US your ratio may be closer to right, but I still doubt you 70% number. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 13, 2015 11:30 AM (kff5f) 141 I'll wait. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2015 11:18 AM (659DL) That's a mighty low bar...... Posted by: Je Suis Charlie Martel (CBD) at January 13, 2015 11:31 AM (Zu3d9) 142 The 70 percent has to stop pretending the 10 percent aren't the problem. The 70 percent must confront the 10 percent. Not send money, and argue their methods are wrong but they have a point, or that the people they victimize were asking for it Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:31 AM (Q4q6O) 143 I think it also had to to with education levels. A Muslim with a degree in computer science living a solid upper middle class life in New Jersey is probably not all that excited at the prospect of bringing back a 7th century lifestyle. A peasant in Pakistan on the other hand is living in the 4th century, so 7th century living would be an improvement. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:31 AM (0LHZx) 144 142 The 70 percent has to stop pretending the 10 percent aren't the problem. The 70 percent must confront the 10 percent. Not send money, and argue their methods are wrong but they have a point, or that the people they victimize were asking for it Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:31 AM (Q4q6O) ____ I agree. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:31 AM (0LHZx) 145 66 - Thanks for the clarification. Seemed like a glaring oddity, but then I am so confused about who or what the Dutch are, and even whether or not Rotterdam is something in the state of Denmark. Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2015 11:32 AM (TOk1P) 146 122 >>Boehner: Amnesty fight with Obama is about runaway executive branch, not immigration No shit really? And I guess taxes are like a box of chocolates or something... Posted by: Marcus T. at January 13, 2015 11:27 AM (GGCsk) -------------------------- Well, of course. If he starts going down the anti-immigration path, his Chamber of Commerce masters will yank hard on the leash. Boehner: "Hmm, I wonder how I can sound tough but cfuk the base hard today?" Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 13, 2015 11:32 AM (HBAcW) 147 Speaking of which, I wonder if Rep. Keith Ellison has anything to say about all this? Who's going to ask him? (besides us) No one with a TV show or newspaper column has asked Andre Carson, representative of the Hereditary Duchy of Indianapolis, about Charlie Hebdo, either. Posted by: HR needs more commas at January 13, 2015 11:32 AM (ZKzrr) 148 I am dressed in an OSU cheerleader outfit to signal my enduring love for OSU football. Does anyone have on a Rottardam cheerleader costume? I didn't think so. Case closed, as far as we deep thinkers here at Foggy Bottom are concerned. Posted by: Jen Psaki-Psak at January 13, 2015 11:32 AM (6um35) 149 You're just racist against Citrus-Americans. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 13, 2015 11:29 AM (TIIx5) They prefer to be called "Dorito-Americans." Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:32 AM (oKE6c) 150 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (0LHZx) Except that's not true. Pew released a study last year showing how muslims trend on certain topics. 1.6bil worldwide 584mil believe in death for leaving Islam 748mil death for adultery 1.1bil sharia should rule Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 13, 2015 11:32 AM (da5Wo) 151 A Muslim with a degree in computer science living a solid upper middle class life in New Jersey is probably not all that excited at the prospect of bringing back a 7th century lifestyle. ---- But more likely than the 7th century prole to be a terrorist. Posted by: RioBravo at January 13, 2015 11:33 AM (z27Ny) 152 Here in the US your ratio may be closer to right, but I still doubt you 70% number. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 13, 2015 11:30 AM (kff5f) Yep. Try that in Dearbornistan... Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 13, 2015 11:33 AM (wtvvX) 153 Its quite amazing that France could remove all its speech restrictions if it just deported Semites. Think of that, the first Western European nation embracing Free Speech and all it needs to do is remove recent visitors. Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at January 13, 2015 11:33 AM (oDCMR) 154 My guess is it's about 70/10/20...70% are decent people, 10% are Osama types and another 20% aren't quite Osama types but don't exactly condemn Osama types either. Also, even if polls did bear you out, you're asking the wrong question. It's not about who wants to blow up a building, or those who "support" those who do. It's about which ones will oppose the blowing up of buildings. Until recently, that has been a vanishingly small minority. For all I know it still is, despite some fairly high-profile Mohammedans stepping up to condemn Mohammedan Terror. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 13, 2015 11:33 AM (kff5f) 155 Here in the US your ratio may be closer to right, but I still doubt you 70% number. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 13, 2015 11:30 AM (kff5f) ____________ I meant in the US/West. In places like Pakistan, Afghanistan, and every other stan....it's probably close to 100/0. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:33 AM (0LHZx) 156 I'll bet the majority of Nazis Party members and their families never killed anybody and wanted peace. Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 13, 2015 11:33 AM (j6e8f) 157 A Muslim with a degree in computer science living a solid upper middle class life in New Jersey is probably not all that excited at the prospect of bringing back a 7th century lifestyle. Maybe not, but his son is on the internet booking plane tix to Syria to fight for Allah. Posted by: HR needs more commas at January 13, 2015 11:34 AM (ZKzrr) 158 Yep. That's why when US plays Mexico in Los Angeles, 80% of the fans are wearing red white and GREEN. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:29 AM (0LHZx) You know, I don't mind that. It's common here in CA for people who moved here relatively recently to root for the team from whatever liberal shithole they fled from (and are in the process of re-creating). For example, Padres games are chock a block with Cubs fans whenever they're in town. As long as that's as far as it goes with Mexicans, no problem here. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:34 AM (oKE6c) 159 Here's a bunch of opinion poll data on Muslms http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/opinion-polls.htm A Pew poll - lot of variation from country to country. Palestinians are the worst, 74% support suicide bombings. Palestinian immigration should be flat-out banned -- it's a madhouse of crazy people. www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/ Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 13, 2015 11:34 AM (ZPrif) 160 Keith Ellison took the No True Scotsman/CAIR approach disavowing the terrorists as true Muslims and saying that the Muslim community was hardest hit. His prescription is more Muslim outreach. http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/01/08/ keith-ellison-terrorism-about-power-under-the-veneer-of-islam/ Posted by: Lizzy at January 13, 2015 11:35 AM (ABcz/) 161 That muslim in NJ wants nothing more than an America free of non-muslim Americans. Posted by: Garrett at January 13, 2015 11:35 AM (gY1su) 162 I think it also had to to with education levels. A Muslim with a degree in computer science living a solid upper middle class life in New Jersey is probably not all that excited at the prospect of bringing back a 7th century lifestyle. A peasant in Pakistan on the other hand is living in the 4th century, so 7th century living would be an improvement. ---- I think the 19 college educated 9-11 hijackers and the multi-million dollar real estate mogul who sent them would disagree with you. Posted by: Methos at January 13, 2015 11:35 AM (A6vWB) 163 Moo moo Mohammed Atta was an engineer. As was bin Laden. They are doctors and engineers. Education doesn't do shit to deter. It's the imams and the culture Assimilation into the culture, or leave. Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:35 AM (Q4q6O) 164 Ace. You're gonna get called more than "Asshole" by Dean if you keep that up. Ol' Deans a real fire ball. You don't want to get him mad. He's liable to kick dirt on your shoes or something really mean like that. of course he could run home crying to his mommy. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 13, 2015 11:35 AM (RZzX3) 165 Moderate muslims are the ones who won't let you in their cab if you have a service dog or a bottle of alcohol. Posted by: Meremortal at January 13, 2015 11:36 AM (1Y+hH) 166 This is the only way the islamic terror nut gets cracked. Muslims have to self-police, and have to want to self-police. Muslims can't pick a side in some sense - picking the western side invites terror, picking the fundamentalist side invites drone strikes. They need to be their own side but ensure that side operates within the bounds of society. Posted by: 0302 at January 13, 2015 11:30 AM (N6eLE) There argument is over what constitutes the bounds of society. For a significant part of the world's population, such bounds include requiring my death. I decline. Posted by: alexthechick - aboniation at January 13, 2015 11:36 AM (mf5HN) 167 I don't think it matters much, a couple of voices in the wilderness of mohammadism. I'm more of the mind a few of them are aware of a rising number of protesters in Europe. At this point I'm more inclined to think self preservation. They have done it in the past. It would require another prophet to change the written word they all memorize. So I'll wait and watch. When the gadget that counts the acts of terrorism world wide stops ticking it will be a great month, when Iron dome gets rusty from lack of use. Posted by: Bob from table9 at January 13, 2015 11:36 AM (WNERA) 168 156 I'll bet the majority of Nazis Party members and their families never killed anybody and wanted peace. Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 13, 2015 11:33 AM (j6e8f) No doubt about it. Lots of people joined the Nazi Party because it was expected of them, or just to get ahead. Much like registering as a Democrat if you're in academia, in fact. There were relatively few really bad guys. For example, how many were in the Gestapo? For the entirety of Europe, 5000. That's it. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:36 AM (oKE6c) 169 Assimilate or deport Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:37 AM (Q4q6O) 170 or not Rotterdam is something in the state of Denmark. Posted by: BurtTC -------------- Here's the test: Do they eat oatmeal? Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 13, 2015 11:37 AM (028dR) 171 My guess is it's about 70/10/20...70% are decent people, 10% are Osama types and another 20% aren't quite Osama types but don't exactly condemn Osama types either. Then 90% are apostates and can be killed. According to their rule book. Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2015 11:37 AM (JP4JT) 172 126 And they were all pretty cool and I honestly didn't think had any urge to go out and blow up a building. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:24 AM (0LHZx) You really don't get it. Moderate Muslims don't want to blow up buildings....they want radical Islamists to blow up buildings. Posted by: Je Suis Charlie Martel (CBD) at January 13, 2015 11:28 AM (Zu3d9) __________________________________________________________ Right, don't be na�ve. Put some of those "friendly muslims" in a muslim dominate scenario and they'd cut your head off in a minute. Posted by: Havedash at January 13, 2015 11:37 AM (gvqyH) 173 As long as that's as far as it goes with Mexicans, no problem here. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:34 AM (oKE6c) ----- But they usually progress far beyond cheering for the Mexican team and wearing their colors. Posted by: RioBravo at January 13, 2015 11:37 AM (z27Ny) 174 Literally love it or leave it Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:37 AM (Q4q6O) 175 As I said before , I think of the brave interpreters imbedded with the troops when I start to paint all Muslims with the same brush. I am not foolish enough though not to realize that only a tiny portion of that brush is without paint. Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 13, 2015 11:38 AM (3jmxp) 176 Moar midnight basketball, less jihadis! Peace over profits! Posted by: NYC Parent at January 13, 2015 11:38 AM (HEo6y) 177 Maybe not, but his son is on the internet booking plane tix to Syria to fight for Allah. Posted by: HR needs more commas at January 13, 2015 11:34 AM (ZKzrr) _______ Ugh. But that's my point. Very few of them are. These are the Adam Lanzas of the Muslim American world. They're fucked up and go do fuck up shit because they are horrible people. And it's a very, very, very small percent of the total population. Again....in the US. I'm not saying every Muslim is a saint. There are plenty of "bad" ones. But I don't think (again in the US) the % of bad ones is nearly as high as some of you think. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:38 AM (0LHZx) 178 If the children and grandkids kept the same attitudes of their immigrant parents -- we wouldn't have much of a problem. Shows the greater impact of broader culture than parents. The parent really are often stunned at how their son turned out this way. The sons grow up radicalized and hating the West and thinking Dad is a pussy cause he just takes it like a shoe-shine boy. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 13, 2015 11:38 AM (ZPrif) 179 "The story that they tell most often, is the story of all of the churches that have been converted to mosques" ^ this is another tale that has (somehow/heh) escaped mention. I've travelled Europe (on business) for many, many years and to sum it up, the "switch is on". More and more smaller cathedrals/religious (predominantly Catholic) facilities are now Islamic centers/temples, even in fairly "conservative" regions such as Southern Germany. As I've said before - the lights are going out across Europe... Posted by: anon a mouse at January 13, 2015 11:38 AM (/jpU8) 180 170 - Damn, I guess that means I'm Dutch too! Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2015 11:38 AM (TOk1P) 181 mohammedanism is definitely a religion of peace. When all the infidels are dead, converted or subjugated, there will be universal peace. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 13, 2015 11:38 AM (TIIx5) 182 Posted by: Methos at January 13, 2015 11:35 AM (A6vWB) Raises the question why two muzzie doctors tried to blow up Heathrow airport. It is not education, it is not poverty, it is the f'n religion that is the problem. Posted by: Bob from table9 at January 13, 2015 11:38 AM (WNERA) 183 Say, any muslim wedding cake services out there? Posted by: Ghey Groom needs a cake at January 13, 2015 11:38 AM (1Y+hH) 184 "A Muslim with a degree in computer science living a solid upper middle class life in New Jersey is probably not all that excited at the prospect of bringing back a 7th century lifestyle. " On this you are absolutely wrong. Many fighting for ISIS were educated in American colleges. Posted by: Lauren at January 13, 2015 11:38 AM (MYCIw) 185 I don't think it matters much, a couple of voices in the wilderness of mohammadism. I'm more of the mind a few of them are aware of a rising number of protesters in Europe. At this point I'm more inclined to think self preservation. They have done it in the past. It would require another prophet to change the written word they all memorize. A Reformation. And two or three generations for it to sink in. Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2015 11:39 AM (JP4JT) 186 "The 2nd and 3rd are raised in pussy Western culture that says all white people are evil racists that hate anybody who isn't a pasty white Christian. They are raised to hate their host country - not by their parents, but by self-loathing Western culture." So, pretty much the way all American kids are being raised today ? Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 13, 2015 11:39 AM (Hk17e) 187 I once did Brussels - Amsterdam by train, the last stop before Amsterdam is Rotterdam. The first thing of the panorama you see when you reach Rotterdam is probably the biggest mosque of Europe, ina very dominant place, ruling over the rest of the placid and shy landscape. Effect of the words of this mayor = zero. Only easily impressible leftists will cheer and gloat so that on conservative forums they can point at him as the invisible moderate muslim. This mayor will not have any effect on the very people he is speaking to, he has influenced zero people and while the few that think like him will die off quickly, the ones on the opposite side of the spectrum will breed like rats. Rotterdam has gotthe same chancesto revert the trend as Dearnbornistan.The only country that I foresee will not succumb is Switzerland for several reasons. Right to vote to immigrants is not granted. It takes an immense deal of time and money to become a Swiss citizen and also the local population has a say to admit you or not in the community. The other countries who will successfully torch islam when needed are Russia and China. All the other countries... goodbye Posted by: fromabroad at January 13, 2015 11:39 AM (wm65e) 188 Mohammed Atta was an engineer. As was bin Laden. They are doctors and engineers. Education doesn't do shit to deter. It's the imams and the culture Assimilation into the culture, or leave. Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:35 AM (Q4q6O) I've pointed this out to ~~stupid~~ well-meaning liberals who bleat about the need for "education" and "jobs" to alleviate "poverty." (I.e., the standard Marxist historical materialist line about "root causes.") Many of the Muslim terrorists are highly educated, including those above and another (whose name I've forgotten) who is/was a surgeon. And as for poverty, bin Laden was worth $300 million. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:39 AM (oKE6c) 189 Moo moo Mohammed Atta was an engineer. As was bin Laden. They are doctors and engineers. Education doesn't do shit to deter. It's the imams and the culture ------------- Nidal Hasan was very well educated, and a member of our armed forces. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 13, 2015 11:39 AM (028dR) 190 They aren't the lanzas. They learn this in their neighborhoods and mosques. Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:39 AM (Q4q6O) 191 If the overwhelming majority are so against terrorism, why aren't the extremists stamped out? I mean, someone can get stoned for not wearing a Burqa in these Muslim countries, surely they can line up a bunch of jihadists and gun them down in the town square to the cheers of millions. But let's be honest, the majority don't feel this way. Posted by: McAdams at January 13, 2015 11:39 AM (lSbwO) 192 Speaking of Scientology, I occasionally pop over to Operation Clambake, a site by/for ex-Scientologists. So many weird, bizarre, creepy, violent stories. If half are true, that "Church" is basically a slave-holding operation. Go to the site, and read the entry on "The Hole" (it's a link to wiki, so you can just go there). A small taste of some of the seemingly criminal "discipline" administered at their facilities. Posted by: Lincolntf at January 13, 2015 11:40 AM (2cS/G) 193 I'm not saying every Muslim is a saint. There are plenty of "bad" ones. But I don't think (again in the US) the % of bad ones is nearly as high as some of you think. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:38 AM (0LHZx) I hear similar things about pit bulls. Doesn't mean my kids are going to hang out with them. Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 13, 2015 11:40 AM (vgIRn) 194 Posted by: alexthechick - aboniation at January 13, 2015 11:36 AM (mf5HN) The passive measures we have seen since the Paris murders are a small first step. But demonstrating and saying, "I do not like this" is not going to change anything. Actively fighting extremism is the only way to change the paradigm of Islamic violence against the West. Enforcing sedition laws, deportation, closing radical schools and mosques, and total war against the armed factions is the only way. Posted by: Je Suis Charlie Martel (CBD) at January 13, 2015 11:40 AM (Zu3d9) 195 So what to make of self neutered Europeans? Any guesses? Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at January 13, 2015 11:40 AM (oDCMR) 196 "His prescription is more Muslim outreach" Meaning, of course, more NASA funding... "But I don't think (again in the US) the % of bad ones is nearly as high as some of you think" It's my experience that the number (at least in parts of the world) is higher than you suspect. Posted by: anon a mouse at January 13, 2015 11:41 AM (/jpU8) 197 Rotterdam? You see what happens when pot is legal? Posted by: Prezzy Prayer Rug at January 13, 2015 11:41 AM (1Y+hH) 198 "Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism." Posted by: Williams 'D-Fens' Foster at January 13, 2015 11:41 AM (s0R4n) 199 Whoa, hold up I'm second generation mexican I have a job and a pension Therefore you point is blah Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 13, 2015 11:41 AM (vW8Mk) 200 Posted by: fromabroad at January 13, 2015 11:39 AM (wm65e) And? Does that mean we should not praise Mohammedans who come out against Mohammedan terror? The Carrot and Stick only work if both the Carrot and Stick are present. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at January 13, 2015 11:41 AM (kff5f) 201 >>A Muslim with a degree in computer science living a solid upper middle class life in New Jersey is probably not all that excited at the prospect of bringing back a 7th century lifestyle. Nope. Radicalization has almost nothing to do with wealth. Read Qtub. It is a complete rejection of western values and a belief that it is their duty to inflict their lifestyle on us. Posted by: JackStraw at January 13, 2015 11:42 AM (g1DWB) 202 As I've said before - the lights are going out across Europe... And as I've said before...literally. http://is.gd/ogZ9si Germany's begging to submit. http://is.gd/oCS8ub Posted by: HR needs more commas at January 13, 2015 11:42 AM (ZKzrr) 203 584mil believe in death for leaving Islam 1.1bil sharia should rule ---- Most interpretations of sharia law includes the provision of death for apostasy. So presumably a large number of people are for some sort of modified sharia. Posted by: RioBravo at January 13, 2015 11:42 AM (z27Ny) 204 89 The 1st gen of Muslims to the West were happy for the freedom and money and to escape the violence and poverty of their home country. The 2nd and 3rd are raised in pussy Western culture that says all white people are evil racists that hate anybody who isn't a pasty white Christian. They are raised to hate their host country - not by their parents, but by self-loathing Western culture. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 13, 2015 11:21 AM (ZPrif) I've heard that it's the same way with the Cubans. First generation immigrants were fiercely anti-Communist. The second and third generations are increasingly voting Democrat. Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2015 11:42 AM (zoehZ) 205 I mean, someone can get stoned for not wearing a Burqa in these Muslim countries, surely they can line up a bunch of jihadists and gun them down in the town square to the cheers of millions. But let's be honest, the majority don't feel this way. Posted by: McAdams at January 13, 2015 11:39 AM (lSbwO) ___________ I agree. In Saudi Arabia and all the "stans" the majority don't. In the US, the majority do. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:42 AM (0LHZx) 206 Assimilation begins in the home and is supported by the cultural institutions We have a shit ton of Americans who need to assimulate. I mean shared values. Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:42 AM (Q4q6O) 207 173 As long as that's as far as it goes with Mexicans, no problem here. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:34 AM (oKE6c) ----- But they usually progress far beyond cheering for the Mexican team and wearing their colors. Posted by: RioBravo at January 13, 2015 11:37 AM (z27Ny) I don't care about the colors, either. I lived in Europe for many years, and used to get together with other expats for Fourth of July and such. Now, true, I wasn't an immigrant, but it's easy to feel nostalgia for where you grew up, and I wouldn't deny that to others. As long as when the chips are down, they have our backs. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:42 AM (oKE6c) 208 So, pretty much the way all American kids are being raised today ? Except with the addition of a supremacist ideology of a competing culture being taught at the mosque. It's a fatal combination. It's an opportunistic infection when the immune system is compromised. Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at January 13, 2015 11:43 AM (DT3rQ) 209 When all the infidels are dead, converted or subjugated, there will be universal peace. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 13, 2015 11:38 AM (TIIx5) Well, there might be peace after the multiple sects within islam have killed off enough of each other to self-select a temporary winner! Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2015 11:43 AM (ftVQq) 210 As long as when the chips are down, they have our backs. If by that you mean "ready to shoot or stab us in our backs", that's what I'm increasingly feeling these days. Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at January 13, 2015 11:43 AM (DT3rQ) 211 "Moderate muslims are the ones who won't let you in their cab if you have a service dog or a bottle of alcohol." I see you've flown into IAD (Dulles)... "And as I've said before...literally" Excellent (and frightening) links. Posted by: anon a mouse at January 13, 2015 11:44 AM (/jpU8) 212 this is briliant Canadian Newspaper Publishes Connect-The-Dots Picture So Readers Can Draw Their Own Mohammed Cartoon... weaselzippers.us Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 13, 2015 11:44 AM (IXrOn) 213 As long as when the chips are down, they have our backs. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:42 AM (oKE6c) And the guacamole...because you can't have chips without guacamole! Posted by: Je Suis Charlie Martel (CBD) at January 13, 2015 11:44 AM (Zu3d9) 214 Ugh. But that's my point. Very few of them are. These are the Adam Lanzas of the Muslim American world. They're fucked up and go do fuck up shit because they are horrible people. And it's a very, very, very small percent of the total population. No, the religion allows, even encourages violence, it's not just that they happen to be crazy and a Muslim. Blogger Bookworm's prison chaplain cousin saw Muslim conversions and notes: "It is not a contradiction to be a Muslim and a murderer, even a mass murderer. That is one reason why criminals 'convert' to Islam in prison. They don't convert at all; they similarly remain the angry judgmental vicious beings they always have been. They simply add 'religious' diatribes to their personal invective. Islam does not inspire a crisis of conscience, just inspirations to outrage." Posted by: Lizzy at January 13, 2015 11:44 AM (ABcz/) 215 168 - I think it was Eddie Izzard, but I could be wrong, who did a comedy bit about Nazis and their salute. How some of them are casual, and others the hard snapping arm extended. Yeah, like with most other things in this world, there are a handful of zealots. Unfortunately, the Nazis showed just how effective a handful could be, and they were able to get a significant number of their fellow countrymen to participate in all sorts of ways. Posted by: BurtTC at January 13, 2015 11:44 AM (TOk1P) 216 209 the only winner is the 2015 world champion Chicago Cubs!!!!11!! Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 13, 2015 11:44 AM (vW8Mk) 217 206 Assimilation begins in the home and is supported by the cultural institutions I've posted this before, but the CPUSA came out against assimilation and for hyphenated Americans in the early 50s, on orders from the Comintern. This was detailed by Bella Dodd in her book "School of Darkness" Here's the operative passage: http://genus.cogia.net/chap13.php Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:44 AM (oKE6c) 218 And the muslim brainwashing is all encompassing. There are islamic charter schools all over the country. There are kids who are raised in America who are basically getting the same education Obama received. Posted by: Lauren at January 13, 2015 11:44 AM (MYCIw) 219 And radical movement that dominates society means a lot of regular people will join it cause that's how you get ahead in life. In the Temperance Era the KKK exploded in popularity across America. Why were farmboys in Iowa joining the KKK -- no blacks around to harass. Cause it became the #1 fraternal organization in America. Industrialization of farms meant far fewer farm jobs. All these farmboys moved to the cities looking for work and to make connections. KKK was there as the place to join for a young man looking to make it in the city. There was a huge problem with young men off the farm becoming drunks and the KKK was part of the Temperance movement and Suffrage movement -- KKK was thought a good group to join to keep a young man on the straight and narrow. And KKK used same race-hate and jew-hate to keep young white boys off the sauce that Obama's Rev. Wright Church used to try to keep young black boys from doing drugs. Wright's church said it was the Evil White Man and the Jews that used drugs to trick noble, young black men into a life of drugs and debauchery. KKK said the same thing, except it was Jews and Blacks trying noble, young white man into a life of whiskey and debauchery. With mass media in the 40s and 50s, the KKK was exposed at the middle class abandoned it very quickly. But it had a hugely popular moment in the 20s and 30s as an anti-alcohol Fraternal Order. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 13, 2015 11:45 AM (ZPrif) 220 I wanna see a cage match between the mayor of Rotterdam and Anjem Choudary. Obama can referee. Posted by: Meremortal at January 13, 2015 11:45 AM (1Y+hH) 221 192 Speaking of Scientology, I occasionally pop over to Operation Clambake, a site by/for ex-Scientologists. So many weird, bizarre, creepy, violent stories. If half are true, that "Church" is basically a slave-holding operation. Go to the site, and read the entry on "The Hole" (it's a link to wiki, so you can just go there). A small taste of some of the seemingly criminal "discipline" administered at their facilities. Posted by: Lincolntf Read the book "Going Clear" by Lawrence Wright, it's basically everything you would want to know about the religion of Scientology. It's a fascinating book. Really crazy shit, I mean I believe in the Freedom of Religion, but damn, it definitely tests the limits. They basically have scared the shit out of the government with their army of lawyers. No one will touch them. Really interesting how they took on the IRS and made them fold. They bascially sued the IRS in all 50 states, went after individual agents, etc. Posted by: McAdams at January 13, 2015 11:45 AM (lSbwO) 222 I recommend the movie Four Lions, a farce about group of radicalised young British Muslim men aspiring to be suicide bombers. Posted by: toby928(C) says Rubber Dingy Rapids, Bro! at January 13, 2015 11:46 AM (evdj2) 223 This guy and Rob Ford. Now thats a 1-2 punch Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 13, 2015 11:47 AM (F2IAQ) 224 As long as when the chips are down, they have our backs. _________ I'm sure they will. http://www.thedustininmansociety.org/pics_art/us_flag_burning.jpg Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 13, 2015 11:47 AM (0LHZx) 225 Apparently, despite being the son of an imman he's not a true muslim. A true muslim would rise to the defense of the profit and give some warning like, 'The Future Must Not Belong To Those Who Slander the Prophet of Islam.' No true ~~Scotsman~~ Muslim. Posted by: Charles Martel at January 13, 2015 11:47 AM (zxQ4h) 226 Between this and Twitter Ace- there's sure seems to be a lot of rimming and d*** sucking in the media lately. Posted by: Marcus T. at January 13, 2015 11:47 AM (GGCsk) 227 Islam has always had bloody borders. And it always will. And now the borders of Islam are inside Western capitals. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 13, 2015 11:47 AM (ZPrif) 228 How is Mr ford? Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:48 AM (Q4q6O) 229 While the US President sulks upon the estates that the voters have loaned him, here is the Albanian Prime Minister with his entourage in Paris. http://tinyurl.com/o325zms Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 13, 2015 11:48 AM (6LueE) 230 Definitely second Four Lions. Mr. Moo Moo, you especially should watch it. Posted by: Lauren at January 13, 2015 11:48 AM (MYCIw) 231 You know, the vast majority of Americans are moderate. It's just that million and a half with the uniforms, guns and drones you have to watch out for. Posted by: Anjem Choudary at January 13, 2015 11:48 AM (1Y+hH) 232 " except it was Jews and Blacks trying noble, young white man into a life of whiskey and debauchery" Damn. And here I thought it was Kentuckians and Scotsmen trying to push whiskey... heh. Posted by: anon a mouse at January 13, 2015 11:48 AM (/jpU8) 233 Move to one of these arab hell holes these people migrate from and live an open decadent western lifestyle and report back on how that goes - if you can. Hell, we even have to respect their societal norms when fighting them! Posted by: Havedash at January 13, 2015 11:48 AM (gvqyH) 234 Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 13, 2015 11:44 AM (vW8Mk) Someone needs to adjust their meds. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 13, 2015 11:49 AM (RZzX3) 235 After deciding that islam is a cult rather than a religion, I further conclude that muslims don't self radicalize. The cult imbues it in them. What we see in their actions is the expression of that radicalization. Posted by: irongrampa at January 13, 2015 11:49 AM (jeCnD) 236 Well, there might be peace after the multiple sects within islam have killed off enough of each other to self-select a temporary winner! Posted by: Hrothgar at January 13, 2015 11:43 AM (ftVQq) Well, I was just channeling the mohammedan thought process. But you're right on the money. Fact is, mohammedans have more to fear from their own co-religionists than from the West. Always have, always will. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 13, 2015 11:49 AM (TIIx5) 237 Believing the basic tents of Mohametanism is the same as advocating the violent overthrow of our government. Posted by: Furious George at January 13, 2015 11:50 AM (UlJ3l) 238 As long as when the chips are down, they have our backs. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:42 AM (oKE6 Nacho chips? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 13, 2015 11:50 AM (F2IAQ) 239 It isn't a news story Or even going to prison It's the family, the culture that is the first line of defense And the imams Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:50 AM (Q4q6O) 240 It's actually educated, upper middle class young people who tend to agitate for violent change. The students in France during the revolution, any commie revolution in history, etc. The poor people follow. Posted by: @votermom at January 13, 2015 11:51 AM (cbfNE) 241 FBUH = Fondled By Uber Hipsters? Posted by: Vincent Vega-table at January 13, 2015 11:51 AM (NXyC4) 242 >>Well, there might be peace after the multiple sects within islam have killed off enough of each other to self-select a temporary winner! ISIS is doing just that. Posted by: Lizzy at January 13, 2015 11:52 AM (ABcz/) 243 Alright, this gladdens my heart. If only the Imans would repeat this. If only moderate Iman clergy were chosen to console prison inmates. ok i won't hold my breath but this is More than i have expected the last decade. Posted by: willow at January 13, 2015 11:52 AM (nqBYe) 244 It thrives in sick cultures. Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:52 AM (Q4q6O) 245 As long as when the chips are down, they have our backs. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:42 AM (oKE6c) ------ I was referring more to the assaults on U.S. fans that occur quite often at the events. That is targeted assaults, not random ones. Of course that is only done by a minority of the 'Mexican fans'. If I were at a USA-Mexico contest in Mexico, I would cheer the US team but not be disrespectful to Mexico or their team- as courtesy if nothing else. Of course if I insulted Mexico there I might expect some sort of retaliation from others - Mexicans for example.. So perhaps that makes Mexicans more patriotic in a manner of speaking than Americans. Posted by: RioBravo at January 13, 2015 11:52 AM (z27Ny) 246 11 Which muslims does Obama stand with now? Posted by: Meremortal at January 13, 2015 11:08 AM (1Y+hH) The crazy mofo ones. Like the jailed Muzzie Brotherhood in Egypt Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 13, 2015 11:52 AM (F2IAQ) 247 >>I recommend the movie Four Lions Does it have anything to do with lion balls? Posted by: JackStraw at January 13, 2015 11:52 AM (g1DWB) 248 192 Speaking of Scientology, I occasionally pop over to Operation Clambake, a site by/for ex-Scientologists. So many weird, bizarre, creepy, violent stories. If half are true, that "Church" is basically a slave-holding operation. Go to the site, and read the entry on "The Hole" (it's a link to wiki, so you can just go there). A small taste of some of the seemingly criminal "discipline" administered at their facilities. Posted by: Lincolntf at January 13, 2015 11:40 AM (2cS/G) L. Ron Hubbard ~ 20th century Mohammed Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:52 AM (oKE6c) 249 For example, Padres games are chock a block with Cubs fans whenever they're in town. Posted by: Jay Guevara _________________________ Just chant "1984, 1984" at them. Posted by: Furious George at January 13, 2015 11:52 AM (UlJ3l) 250 The passive measures we have seen since the Paris murders are a small first step. But demonstrating and saying, "I do not like this" is not going to change anything. Actively fighting extremism is the only way to change the paradigm of Islamic violence against the West. Enforcing sedition laws, deportation, closing radical schools and mosques, and total war against the armed factions is the only way. Posted by: Je Suis Charlie Martel (CBD) at January 13, 2015 11:40 AM (Zu3d9) I disagree somewhat that saying I do not like this won't change anything. It's the first step. Now, if there are not other steps following that step, then, yes, it's all meaningless. But change has to start somewhere. Can we not take one moment, one single damn second, to be happy that people are starting to wake up before we turn around and shit all over what they are doing? Because that would be nice. I agree absolutely with your points about actively fighting. Posted by: alexthechick - aboniation at January 13, 2015 11:52 AM (mf5HN) 251 I'm second generation mexican I have a job and a pension Are there curb feelers on your cab? If not, you've been assimilated. Posted by: garrett at January 13, 2015 11:53 AM (VLgzJ) 252 Everybody must get stoned. Posted by: The Islamic Bob Dylan at January 13, 2015 11:53 AM (j6e8f) 253 Obama must go to Rotterdam for a pot summit with the Mayor. The world will be riveted. Posted by: Meremortal at January 13, 2015 11:53 AM (1Y+hH) 254 "Does it have anything to do with lion balls?" Haha. Nope. No lion balls. Posted by: Lauren at January 13, 2015 11:53 AM (MYCIw) 255 i doubt boko haram, al quada, isis, taliban, saud leaders, paki leaders will use this as an example to emulate. sadly Posted by: willow at January 13, 2015 11:53 AM (nqBYe) 256 I was referring more to the assaults on U.S. fans that occur quite often at the events. That is targeted assaults, not random ones. Of course that is only done by a minority of the 'Mexican fans'. If I were at a USA-Mexico contest in Mexico, I would cheer the US team but not be disrespectful to Mexico or their team- as courtesy if nothing else. Of course if I insulted Mexico there I might expect some sort of retaliation from others - Mexicans for example.. So perhaps that makes Mexicans more patriotic in a manner of speaking than Americans. Posted by: RioBravo at January 13, 2015 11:52 AM (z27Ny) Didn't know about assaults, but agree. Patriotism tends to get a boost when you're an expat. Even liberals were kinda patriotic in Europe. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:54 AM (oKE6c) 257 "Does it have anything to do with lion balls?" The British Lion has been testes free for decades.... Posted by: anon a mouse at January 13, 2015 11:54 AM (/jpU8) 258 That Paris muslim supermarket hero, Lassana Bathily, would be an excellent person to interview as this dude has cred. If I were asking him ?s, they would be along the lines of: Which mosque do you go to? Which imam(s) do you listen to and respect? Do they preach hate for the infidels? Do you believe infidels must convert or die or convert or pay the jizzya? Do you believe that France should obey sharia law? Do you believe that apostates must die? And so on. Find out HOW he reconciles these common preachings with his faith. Posted by: GnuBreed at January 13, 2015 11:54 AM (Ux5vw) 259 As long as when the chips are down, they have our backs. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:42 AM (oKE6 ----- Like the ones (not at all uncommon) following the WTC/DC attacks that considered the the US had it coming. Posted by: RioBravo at January 13, 2015 11:54 AM (z27Ny) 260 If the grocery store were shot up, but not the magazine Nobody would give one rat duck Toulouse Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:55 AM (Q4q6O) 261 I didn't write duck. You can figure it out Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 11:55 AM (Q4q6O) 262 no lion balls in Sweden either, feminazi's had them removed Posted by: Name: * at January 13, 2015 11:55 AM (q+zA9) 263 Let me be the jerk here. I'm going to say our hero of the hour (this mayor) doesn't know what he's talking about. The Muslims have it right: Just move into a place in droves and it's soon yours. Mr. Mayor can't say, "If you don't like it here, fuck off," unless it's a country that CAN'T change. But free countries have the ability to change, therefore, if you fill it with enough of "your" people, then you get to change it to your way. Bottom line: If you want a country that won't become Islamic, then PUT THAT INTO LAW! Actually WRITE A LAW that says, "No Islam allowed." Or... (and here's an idea, morons) LIMIT YOUR IMMIGRATION! To state it like Mr. Mayor did, that would be like Native Americans telling the white man, "If you don't want to live in teepees and dance our rain dances, then leave." For good or ill, any continent belongs to whomever shows up. The Europeans are idiots. They refuse to limit their immigration, and they refuse to procreate. Now, when it's finally obvious that they're losing the game, they make bold speeches. All I can do is sarcastically golf-clap. Posted by: RKae at January 13, 2015 11:55 AM (cBh+e) 264 >>Can we not take one moment, one single damn second, to be happy that people are starting to wake up before we turn around and shit all over what they are doing? Yes! That was a big-ass rally in Paris, another in Germany, and it's refreshing to hear some (2 so far) Muslim leaders speak out. May it be the start of something bigger, and inspire others to do the same. Posted by: Lizzy at January 13, 2015 11:56 AM (ABcz/) 265 Like the ones (not at all uncommon) following the WTC/DC attacks that considered the the US had it coming. Posted by: RioBravo at January 13, 2015 11:54 AM (z27Ny) You mean Mexicans, or leftists? I think that, per zombie's reports, that sentiment was not uncommon in the Bay Area. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:56 AM (oKE6c) 266 The crazy mofo ones. Like the jailed Muzzie Brotherhood in Egypt - And remember the complete lack of support for th Iranian rebels early in his first term. I couldn't understand it then. I just didn't believe anybody could side with Islamic radicals over reasonable people. Posted by: The Islamic Bob Dylan at January 13, 2015 11:56 AM (j6e8f) 267 Are there curb feelers on your cab? If not, you've been assimilated. Posted by: garrett at January 13, 2015 11:53 AM Don't forget the little bitty steering wheel and the dingle balls along the interior roofline. Posted by: Meremortal at January 13, 2015 11:57 AM (1Y+hH) 268 ThunderB , yes most seem to ignore jews being attacked often. Posted by: willow at January 13, 2015 11:57 AM (nqBYe) 269 Laura W's post was bumped back to the top Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 13, 2015 11:58 AM (IXrOn) 270 Find out HOW he reconciles these common preachings with his faith. Before he gets stabbed to death after services on Friday. Posted by: HR needs more commas at January 13, 2015 11:58 AM (ZKzrr) 271 221 Read the book "Going Clear" by Lawrence Wright, it's basically everything you would want to know about the religion of Scientology. It's a fascinating book. Really crazy shit, I mean I believe in the Freedom of Religion, but damn, it definitely tests the limits. Scientology is outlawed in France, I think. Posted by: GnuBreed at January 13, 2015 11:58 AM (Ux5vw) 272 "Does that mean we should not praise Mohammedans who come out against Mohammedan terror? The Carrot and Stick only work if both the Carrot and Stick are present." I mean that statements like those do not have any practical and positive effect except giving ammo to leftists to say the moderates are billions. The first thingI read in the yahoo news roll after the Paris attacks was an article from the Huffington Post about 'here is the worldwide condemnation of the attacks from muslims'. Clicking on it and it was 2-3random personalanonymous Twitter accounts and a couple of photos of 'not in my name'. considering the media tend to blow this out of proportion, now they will tell you 'the mayor of Rotterdam has spoken, pisslam is a religion of peace way better than christianity' So I am not impressed. The only solution is to halt immigration and create laws that make them feel unwelcome such has ban on minarets and ban on burkas and ban of mosques. This mayor will never agree on the ban on mosques. Posted by: fromabroad at January 13, 2015 11:59 AM (wm65e) 273 The Muslim mayor is telling his Muslim constituents to not make waves. Let's take over this country quietly, more Muslim kids, more Muslim schools, more mosques. He is in the Labour Party so that will give them more Muslim votes. The Dutch are so indoctrinated that they think Islam is a religion and nothing more - even when they go deaf from the constant wailing of the muezzin or whatever they are called, or have to move because the wife is called a whore every time she goes to the store in her short skirt. Posted by: Limboland at January 13, 2015 11:59 AM (kMfZQ) 274 For good or ill, any continent belongs to whomever shows up. The Europeans are idiots. They refuse to limit their immigration, and they refuse to procreate. Now, when it's finally obvious that they're losing the game, they make bold speeches. All I can do is sarcastically golf-clap. Posted by: RKae at January 13, 2015 11:55 AM (cBh+e) ----- If you have the might you can make it right if you are willing to use your might. Where there is no will, you wither and fade away with a whimper. Posted by: RioBravo at January 13, 2015 11:59 AM (z27Ny) 275 I think he is sincere He's late. And there need to be a billion of him Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 12:00 PM (Q4q6O) 276 2nd phase KKK in the midwest was mostly an anti-alcohol, anti-Catholic, fraternal organization, which blamed Catholics for supporting alcohol consumption. The 3 eras of the KKK are interesting 1st stage (post Civil War): Small, Taliban-like, ex-Confeds using terrorism to force the Yanks out and the Blacks back on the farm. 2nd stage (Temperance Era-WW2): Hugely popular anti-alcohol, anti-Catholic Christian fraternal order for young men off the farm 3rd stage (Modern era): Tiny group of freaks, weirdos, and meth-heads. Half of whom are undercover FBI agents. The huge popularity of the KKK in the 20s and 30s is a weird bit of American history. Hard to explain, if the image is only deep south crazies lynching blacks -- why were Iowa farmboys who never saw a black person in their life joining the KKK in 1934? History's complicated sometimes. Actually, most times. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 13, 2015 12:01 PM (ZPrif) 277 "Lassana Bathily, would be an excellent person to interview as this dude has cred." Well, he's from Mali, and if one actually listens to the first interview (from The Telegraph, IIRC) he was (rightfully so) looking out for himself first of all, and then doesn't seem to come across as much of a Muslim at all... Note those pimping the "he's a MUSLIM!!!" over everything else bit are the usual US media outlets. Posted by: anon a mouse at January 13, 2015 12:02 PM (/jpU8) 278 i would be happier if MB in the administration would heckle Erdogan instead of supporting him. maybe then we have a minuscule chance Posted by: willow at January 13, 2015 12:02 PM (nqBYe) 279 Another useful Dutch phrase - "Scheld'n dut gin zeer, moar a'j mie houwt, dan houw 'k oe weer." From my blog about Theo Van Gogh's murder - http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2005/07/netherlands-redux.html Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 13, 2015 12:03 PM (6LueE) 280 It is well documented that in Pakistan there was a rally by women that were in favour of the Sharia law portion that says a woman should bring 4 witnesses to prove she was raped. Yes you read it well, women for sharia, with everything included, being a male's property, breeding and not studying etc. For every woman that wants to drive, there are other 10 that are brainwashed into the easy life of being told what to do by their male. Do not underestimate that. I meet a lot of people at work, who out of pure convenience, would rather do a repetitive and boring job where they don't have to think rather than giving inputs and make their brain work. Posted by: fromabroad at January 13, 2015 12:04 PM (wm65e) 281 "They refuse to limit their immigration" Actually, there are quite a few newer (post 2000) legal barriers by Western European nations. It's just that prior to that they didn't need legal limits as there just weren't that many trying to get in. Posted by: anon a mouse at January 13, 2015 12:04 PM (/jpU8) 282 sorry, previous one was in reply to 'I mean, someone can get stoned for not wearing a Burqa in these Muslim countries, surely they can line up a bunch of jihadists and gun them down in the town square to the cheers of millions. But let's be honest, the majority don't feel this way.' Posted by: fromabroad at January 13, 2015 12:05 PM (wm65e) 283 The huge popularity of the KKK in the 20s and 30s is a weird bit of American history. Hard to explain, if the image is only deep south crazies lynching blacks -- why were Iowa farmboys who never saw a black person in their life joining the KKK in 1934? History's complicated sometimes. Actually, most times. Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 13, 2015 12:01 PM (ZPrif) The state that went in most for the KKK (IIRC)? Indiana. Go figure. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 12:06 PM (oKE6c) 284 You mean Mexicans, or leftists? I think that, per zombie's reports, that sentiment was not uncommon in the Bay Area. Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 13, 2015 11:56 AM (oKE6c) ------ To tie it together, if native Americans are not truly patriotic why would immigrants become such. It is not just leftists who are the problem. 'Proposition nation' - free market for all/open borders/no 'common core' (I am not referring to the education issue) conservatives and libertarians are nearly as bad. Posted by: RioBravo at January 13, 2015 12:06 PM (z27Ny) 285 More of this, please. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 13, 2015 12:07 PM (0HooB) 286 Would he have made the same statement if only the Jewish grocery store were attacked. I sincerely don't know Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at January 13, 2015 12:07 PM (Q4q6O) 287 fear can contribute greatly to brainwashing or stokholm syndrome. imho Posted by: willow at January 13, 2015 12:07 PM (nqBYe) 288 277 >> Note those pimping the "he's a MUSLIM!!!" over everything else bit are the usual US media outlets. Well he identifies as a muslim, anon, so my idea still stands. Ask him how he does or doesn't avoid the more radical aspects of islam. Posted by: GnuBreed at January 13, 2015 12:07 PM (Ux5vw) 289 Anna, I don't speak or read dutch, and neither does any computer translator I have access to. It did say OE was doing something with the weather. Posted by: Bob from table9 at January 13, 2015 12:07 PM (WNERA) 290 >>For every woman that wants to drive, there are other 10 that are brainwashed into the easy life of being told what to do by their male. Yes, they certainly do exist. Huma Abedin's mom is an active member of the Muslim Sisterhood and friends w/former MB-affiliated leader of Egypt. Posted by: Lizzy at January 13, 2015 12:07 PM (ABcz/) 291 Lizzy contrarily she herself shows her ankles and freely jets about the world and is able to drive when she so chooses. nasty wench. slavery is for Other women. Posted by: willow at January 13, 2015 12:09 PM (nqBYe) 292 Bob from Table 9, a rough translation is 'Words can't hurt me but lay a finger on me and you will hurt." Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 13, 2015 12:11 PM (6LueE) 293 I'm serious. Interview this Lassana dude. (Hint to ace -- I bet it would be read by millions. You could even practice your French on the poor fella) Posted by: GnuBreed at January 13, 2015 12:11 PM (Ux5vw) 294 >>slavery is for Other women. I'm thinking Taqiyah (or however you spell it). How else could someone w/such radical family get away with that and marrying a Jew? Posted by: Lizzy at January 13, 2015 12:12 PM (ABcz/) 295 Anna, Sounds something like John Wayne would say. Posted by: Bob from table9 at January 13, 2015 12:14 PM (WNERA) 296 "Well he identifies as a muslim, anon, so my idea still stands" You see, that's the part I don't really get - I've yet to hear him identify himself as a practicing muslim. Sure, he's from Mali, but that's about the same as saying one is from Pakistan, therefore must be muslim... Still would be a good interview subject, though. Posted by: anon a mouse at January 13, 2015 12:22 PM (/jpU8) 297 FYI According to the sources the only country where slavery of non muslim is virtually legal are Mali, Mauritania, Saudi A, Sudan and probably Yemen. In those places having a christian negro as a slave is considered normal and not worthy of notice. Mali, although not a very mentioned country but it is ranking pretty high in his application of Sharia Posted by: fromabroad at January 13, 2015 12:26 PM (wm65e) 298 I like the way this guy thinks. However, this is a very old concept. Old as in Socrates Old. I even explored the subject over at my little slice of Intarwebz Heaven a couple of years ago: http://tinyurl.com/c456sht Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 13, 2015 12:39 PM (0HooB) 299 New York Times editor Dean Baquet can provide references from Obama if that will help. Posted by: anchovy at January 13, 2015 12:40 PM (PtVFw) 300 http://tinyurl.com/c456sht Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 13, 2015 12:39 PM (0HooB) ---------- "You will fail." Very optimistic, I see. Posted by: RioBravo at January 13, 2015 12:42 PM (z27Ny) 301 Here's the operative passage: http://genus.cogia.net/chap13.php Posted by: Jay Guevara ------ While a Kindle version is available, it is interesting that no reprints of the book are. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 13, 2015 12:46 PM (028dR) 302 Very optimistic, I see. Yeah, there's been a lot of submission since then. I will never submit. Too bad our "leaders" will, though. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at January 13, 2015 12:49 PM (0HooB) 303 Wolf Blitzer just crapped his pants and fainted. Posted by: eman at January 13, 2015 01:00 PM (24vvc) 304 I wonder how the neo-facist sympathizers on the left and in the MSM will adapt to this ? Que the crickets...... Posted by: CelticCaptain at January 13, 2015 01:26 PM (tstsJ) 305 Easy: his turban and long face look like a cock and balls. 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