Christmas in Italy, 1944

Posted by: Dave In Texas at 02:11 PM

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1 Fresh Scent!

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 25, 2014 02:14 PM (JO9+V)

2 Merry Christmas to all who are and have served!

Posted by: tbodie at December 25, 2014 02:14 PM (3CXto)

3
Gotta admit, those Ritgers cheerleaders have a decidedly masculine look about them.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 25, 2014 02:16 PM (jmIQu)

4 Good lord a couple of Fox news babes are kickin' it with The Rockettes.

It's a Fappening Festivus miracle!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 25, 2014 02:16 PM (oFCZn)

5 Rutgers

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 25, 2014 02:16 PM (jmIQu)

6 Merry Christmas, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 25, 2014 02:17 PM (KCxzN)

7 English uniforms...?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 25, 2014 02:18 PM (QIrzm)

8 Merry Christmas all.

Posted by: rabidfox at December 25, 2014 02:25 PM (COIkl)

9 yeah they're Brits

Posted by: Dave in Texas at December 25, 2014 02:26 PM (l7DqC)

10 To my comrades in uniform throughout the world...God Bless and Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 25, 2014 02:27 PM (08Znv)

11 I swear one of those guys looks like the pic I have of my father in WW2!
Merry Christmas to all

Posted by: FCF at December 25, 2014 02:27 PM (kejii)

12 From my dad's WWII memoirs:

Christmas:

Nine days before Christmas, when the Battle of the Bulge started we were occupying an area located 30 miles south of the German spearhead. We conducted daily patrols to determine enemy strength, locate gun emplacements and identify which enemy units were deployed in front of us and what their intentions might be.

One of our patrols was ambused and we lost four men. Our troopers in turn captured an enemy patrol which attacked on of our outposts. I was on patrol often during this time The deep snow necessitated implementing some GI ingenuity, so we decided to use the horses which we liberated in the captured German towns. We began to use horses for mounted patrols to better negotiate the deep snow.

The novelty of using horses did not go unnoticed. It is proudly recounted in our Third Cavalry Book and in General Patton's book, "War As I Knew It."

Posted by: Meremortal at December 25, 2014 02:28 PM (1Y+hH)

13 That's where my dad spent that Christmas - 15th Air Force, 450th Bomb Group, 721st Squadron - Manduria, Italy.

Posted by: Hotspur at December 25, 2014 02:31 PM (zVqnT)

14 Holy shit.

Asylum is giving "Free Time" today.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 25, 2014 02:31 PM (QIrzm)

15 Heh.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 25, 2014 02:33 PM (QIrzm)

16 Holy shit.
Asylum is giving "Free Time" today.

Staff is passed out drunk.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 25, 2014 02:33 PM (tJipK)

17 Chirstmas WWII:

Christmas was just a few days away but you'd never know it as our artillery continued firing away and the enemy fired back, all with minimal results. Our squadron was strung out along a wide sector facing an enemy that rumors told us was about to attack and blow right through our vulnerable, thinly-manned defenses.

We knew we were vulnerable because both enemy divisions and an armored division from our sector of the front were ordered north to cut off the Bulge and encircle the German armies which encircled the Americans at Bastogne.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 25, 2014 02:35 PM (1Y+hH)

18 At least the Rain Man free script is still working. We'll call it KillCrazy.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 25, 2014 02:36 PM (YNkME)

19 One year in Korea they served my dad's outfit a "turkey" that was sculpted out of spam.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 25, 2014 02:37 PM (RcpcZ)

20 No God Bless....?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 25, 2014 02:38 PM (QIrzm)

21 More Christmas WWII:

Luckily the Germans continued to commit all they had to the Bulge and we were spared what would have been a devasting blow by greatly superior forces. That is not to say we were not continually challenged by enemy patrols.

I expended quite a few clips from my carbine and threw numerous hand grenades while on patrol during this time.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 25, 2014 02:38 PM (1Y+hH)

22 MUMR is early... must be holiday hours at the library? Who ever is running the change-hammer is doing great work though!

Posted by: JDub BunkerintheBurbs wants a pony for Christmas at December 25, 2014 02:39 PM (X3xYu)

23 Thoughts out, mere.

When men were men and shit got done. No whining.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 25, 2014 02:40 PM (QIrzm)

24 "Who ever is running the change-hammer is doing great work though!"

Yeah, he's about two hours early. Special day at the gimp-zoo.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 25, 2014 02:41 PM (QIrzm)

25 I think its Ace again, the last few days have been like a holiday typing tournament with Hodor.

Posted by: JDub BunkerintheBurbs wants a pony for Christmas at December 25, 2014 02:42 PM (X3xYu)

26 Ace fcuk with us.........?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 25, 2014 02:44 PM (QIrzm)

27 No, I think he is the one that changes MUMRs posts, or he was yesterday anyhow.

I forgot to tell you Morons, I got BEER BRITTLE in my stocking! I must have been a good boy after-all. Who knew this existed???

Posted by: JDub BunkerintheBurbs wants a pony for Christmas at December 25, 2014 02:45 PM (X3xYu)

28 Here's a good part:

A few days before Christmas we received a Christmas message with a prayer for good weather from General Patton. I have carried this card in my wallet continuously from the day I received it.

"Almighty and most merciful Father, we humbly beseech Thee of Thy great goodness, to restrain these immoderate rains with which we have had to contend.
Grant us fair weather for Battle. Graciously hearken to us as soldiers who call upon Thee that armed with Thy power we may advance from victory to victory, and crush the oppression and wickedness of our enemies, and establish They justice among men and nations. Amen."

I was with Dad in 2005 in Luxembourg at a dinner where the speaker was Gen Patton's granddaughter. She spoke of the prayer and had reproductions of the card which she passed out to each of the old soldiers. When she got to my Dad he showed her his original card.

She was speechless and almost overcome with emotion upon seeing an original of that card. I now carry one in my wallet.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 25, 2014 02:45 PM (1Y+hH)

29 So we can consider Patton a Christmas movie. Oscar winner bitches

Posted by: phreshone at December 25, 2014 02:48 PM (LoIJo)

30 So we can consider Patton a Christmas movie. Oscar winner bitches
Posted by: phreshone at December 25, 2014 02:48 PM (LoIJo)

Notice how in all proper Christmas movies we see Americans killing Germans and Italians.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 25, 2014 02:52 PM (4qS4T)

31 Bobo passed out?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 25, 2014 02:52 PM (QIrzm)

32 First phone call of the long-weekend. Shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 25, 2014 02:54 PM (QIrzm)

33 You'd think they would keep a closer eye on the cabinet with the cough syrup at the asylum.

Then again it is Christmas...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 25, 2014 02:55 PM (oFCZn)

34 Heh:

"Third Army Chaplain James H. O'Neill wrote the prayer. Providentially, God answered our prayer and the weather cleared.

General Patton was so impressed with the chaplain's good standing with the Lord that he promptly pinned a medal on him."

Posted by: Meremortal at December 25, 2014 02:56 PM (1Y+hH)

35 Well, White Christmas starts out that way.

Posted by: Hotspur at December 25, 2014 02:56 PM (zVqnT)

36 Yes, ace is the one messing with the child-mind. He did so yesterday too. Working on Christmas, what a guy!

Posted by: Meremortal at December 25, 2014 02:57 PM (1Y+hH)

37 At Luxembourg American Military Cemetery Patton's grave is just a simple cross at the head of all the soldiers and airmen buried there.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 25, 2014 02:59 PM (5HyS+)

38 Posted by: Meremortal at December 25, 2014 02:45 PM

Great and touching story. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 25, 2014 03:01 PM (6hrmc)

39 I was with Dad in 2005 in Luxembourg at a dinner where the speaker was Gen Patton's granddaughter. She spoke of the prayer and had reproductions of the card which she passed out to each of the old soldiers. When she got to my Dad he showed her his original card.

She was speechless and almost overcome with emotion upon seeing an original of that card. I now carry one in my wallet.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 25, 2014 02:45 PM (1Y+hH)

I seem to recall reading something about that. Perhaps not about the cards, but the dinner ceremony itself.

That's nine kinds of awesome.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizarro World at December 25, 2014 03:02 PM (ODbgb)

40 Posted by: Anna Puma at December 25, 2014 02:59 PM (5HyS+)

Yes Anna, we visited that site also. Very sobering, I think there are 5 thousand Americans buried there.

Patton's granddaughter placed a wreath on the grave. This was part of the 60th anniversary of D-Day.

As you probably know, Americans are very popular in Luxembourg.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 25, 2014 03:03 PM (1Y+hH)

41 https://twitter.com/brijoyce/status/547906537470316544/photo/1

Posted by: andycanuck at December 25, 2014 03:06 PM (AbfZY)

42 I want to see the Normandy beech. And see the cemetery at Belleau Wood.

Before I die.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 25, 2014 03:06 PM (QIrzm)

43 And I misspelled "beach"

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 25, 2014 03:08 PM (QIrzm)

44 My wife has put a dress on her dog for Christmas.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 25, 2014 03:11 PM (LImiJ)

45 My dad spent the weeks leading up to Christmas 1944 with the All-American 82nd Airborne, sent north to relieve the Screaming Eagles in Bastogne. Said it was the coldest winter he and his buddy could recall, and they had both grown up in Pennsylvania (buddy was a second-generation Italian-American from Scranton, which often got winters more like New England than what you think of as Middle Atlantic temps). The worst part of it was when his unit heard about the Malmedy massacre. It was a subdued combat-stressed Christmas for both my dad and his buddy-- but the good part of it was letters and packages from home for both of them. They were both married men, no kids yet, and the buddy's wife sent a package of Italian sausages and my mother sent a Pennsylvania Dutch smoked sausage from the local farmers' market. Even with wartime rationing, they wanted their husbands to have something "from home" for Christmas Day. My dad told me years later when he could stand to talk about the Bulge that in its own way, Christmas 1944 was a good Christmas because the guys knew they would celebrate Christmas 1945 at home.

Posted by: Basement Cat at December 25, 2014 03:12 PM (omf9g)

46 My wife has put a dress on her dog for Christmas.

Poor little guy.......

Posted by: rickb223 at December 25, 2014 03:13 PM (tJipK)

47 Irving Berlin's "White Christmas" does indeed start with a Battle of the Bulge scene.

That is a really great show. Had the pleasure to conduct it a few times in various productions.

Posted by: navybrat at December 25, 2014 03:14 PM (JgC5a)

48 Meremortal that is an awesome story of your father.

Grandfather participated in every invasion in Europe. He passed away a few years ago. My uncle going through some stuff found a Christmas card from 1943 that was given to soldiers who attended that Mass. It was still in perfect shape and one of the few things he kept. When he came home he never talked about it so for decades we never knew he was part of Tiger when they were practicing for D-Day and E-boats slipped in to attack. Or he ended on VE Day in southern Germany. And now we'll never know.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 25, 2014 03:14 PM (5HyS+)

49 Neil deGrasse "Junior High" Tyson tweets:
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@neiltyson: On this day long ago, a child was born who, by age 30, would transform the world. Happy Birthday Isaac Newton b. Dec 25, 1642
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Wrong. Dec. 25th, 1642 was the Julian calendar date of his birthdate. Under the modern Gregorian calendar used by most of the world, Sir Isaac Newton was born on Jan. 4, 1643.

The actual anniversary of Newton's birth is still 10 days away.

I guess we can't let things like actual facts get in the way when your actual purpose is to tweak Christians, though.

Posted by: David R. at December 25, 2014 03:16 PM (1uEwn)

50 Patton's Ghost Troops, The Brave Rifles. Oldest active outfit in the US Army.

They were called the Ghost Troops because they seemed to appear and disappear at will behind the German lines:

"There was a feeling of foreboding in our ranks at this time. Rumors of elite SS Panzer divisions readying an attack on our positions had us worried an on edge. We were not used to defensive action and did not relish the thought.

Ours was an experienced, battle-hardened, mechanized unit designed for lightning-fast strikes. The enemy was also experienced and battle-hardened. Often the enemy possessed greater fire power but the great equalizer was our quickness and element of surprise. Our unit used these tactics to great advantage and came to be praised and admired by our allies and feared and respected by our enemies."

Posted by: Meremortal at December 25, 2014 03:17 PM (1Y+hH)

51 Posted by: Basement Cat at December 25, 2014 03:12 PM (omf9g)

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 25, 2014 03:14 PM (5HyS+)

Heartfelt Salutes.

My Dad's finish to the war was horrific and took place in Austria. I might copy in that part of the story sometime.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 25, 2014 03:21 PM (1Y+hH)

52 Great one, David R.

And I'd add that Sir Issac probably wouldn't have been pleased at NDGT omitting his honorific.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 25, 2014 03:24 PM (AbfZY)

53 Props to ColdBeer1 for his Ace's Wonderland post #106 in the Merry Christmas thread.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 25, 2014 03:25 PM (LImiJ)

54 Patton knew Col. John Mosby and apparently played out civil war battles with him as a very young man. Mosby was a guerilla fighter and was known as "the Grey Ghost".
Mosby stressed flexibilty, speed, and strikes behind the enemy lines to tie up the enemy while he was trying to get into position to get to battle. Mosby was pretty efficient too.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 25, 2014 03:25 PM (t//F+)

55 Posted by: Kindltot at December 25, 2014 03:25 PM (t//F+)

Wild coincidence: My third grade teacher's husband was Lou Mosby, a decendant of the Grey Ghost. Their son was my best friend from first grade through college. He died of cancer shortly after passing his bar exam at the age of 25. He was an amzing fellow and I always thought he would be President one day, and I wish that day was today.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 25, 2014 03:29 PM (1Y+hH)

56 Isn't there a story of Newton's chewing up his papers? Calculations Newton had just finished? That Newton merely reproved the dog?

With Tyson I would imagine Sir Newton rolling up some heavy parchment and swatting him with it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 25, 2014 03:30 PM (5HyS+)

57 47 Posted by: navybrat at December 25, 2014 03:14 PM (JgC5a)

I can't listen to the song "I'll Be Home for Christmas" without going to pieces. All I can think about are those poor guys somewhere in some rotting jungle or the Bulge or Hurtgen Forest or crossing the Rapido.

Please try and watch this Brit series on Netflix called "World War 2: The Last Heroes."

G-d bless all who served and still serve to protect us.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 25, 2014 03:32 PM (CMkNk)

58 "I'll Be Home for Christmas" isn't Irving Berlin, but Walter Kent and lyricist Kim Gannon.

Indeed it was written to be a comfort to those serving. Sung by Bing Crosby, it was a monster hit.

I am in regular contact with the son of the composer, who lives nearby.

Posted by: navybrat at December 25, 2014 03:36 PM (JgC5a)

59 Ralphie just coming down the stairs in his bunny suit.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 25, 2014 03:37 PM (tJipK)

60 Unfortunately, I've seen the Tyson anti-Christian troll post spread far and wide on social media.

It does help when the anti-Christian bigots self-identify since the only purpose of posting something like that on Christmas is to troll Christians.

Notice they never insult Muslims on Ramadan. Always about respect and shit during Muslim holidays.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 25, 2014 03:37 PM (ZPrif)

61 Isn't there a story of Newton's chewing up his papers? Calculations Newton had just finished?

They made paper out of figs?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 25, 2014 03:38 PM (tJipK)

62 Always about respect and shit during Muslim holidays.

Do they troll on Hanukkah as well as Christmas? I can't imagine they would respect Judaism any more than Christianity.

Posted by: Basement Cat at December 25, 2014 03:40 PM (omf9g)

63 My Daddy spent Christmas 0f '44 in a hospital recovering from wounds received at St. Lo on 21 June. By the way after going through D-Day without a scratch. He was to spend almost a whole year in different hospitals. He was a great man and a good friend and he was as proud of his son's service as his own. Hell, my 22 years was skating compared to his 2 weeks of running and gunning.

Posted by: Erowmero at December 25, 2014 03:44 PM (go5uR)

64 NdGTBBQ+ doesn't mention Newton's occult studies? What a shame. Years of study to determine that it doesn't work. That, by the way could be the story of various prominent people today.

It looks like Newton's dog, Diamond, knocked over a candle and started a fire of his papers.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 25, 2014 03:46 PM (t//F+)

65 Well I am going to go see Unbroken in a bit.

So expect me to go into silly mode later on.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 25, 2014 03:46 PM (5HyS+)

66 Posted by: Erowmero at December 25, 2014 03:44 PM (go5uR)

Salute.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 25, 2014 04:00 PM (1Y+hH)

67 Afternoon all.

I "suppose" my dad spent Christmas 1944 in California or Hawaii getting ready for the invasion of Iwo Jima in Feb. 1945.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 04:02 PM (nzKvP)

68 Those are some interesting Italians

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 25, 2014 04:07 PM (7RXcs)

69 The guy standing on the left could be my dad's relative, close relative.
So close it's scary.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 25, 2014 04:08 PM (jGqoT)

70 She was speechless and almost overcome with emotion upon seeing an original of that card. I now carry one in my wallet.

It's blurry in here. Remembering my grandpa's service in WWII.

Posted by: Infidel at December 25, 2014 04:15 PM (du6mO)

71 My father served in northern Africa and Italy around this time, I still have his medals and a ring he made while there. *Melancholy*

Posted by: Graybeard at December 25, 2014 04:22 PM (lhZej)

72 My father served in northern Africa and Italy around this time, I still have his medals and a ring he made while there. *Melancholy*
Posted by: Graybeard at December 25, 2014 04:22 PM (lhZej)

I have my father's Bronze Star, 2 Jap Swords, One Jap Rifle, and One pair of Jap Binoculors.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 04:27 PM (nzKvP)

73 Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 04:27 PM (nzKvP)

Yeah, it's amazing how much 'Stuff' got shipped home during the war years.

Couldn't happen today of course...

Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 04:35 PM (Ce4DF)

74 yeah they're Brits

For DiT: The Brits are probably some of those who were unfairly criticized as "D-Day Dodgers" because they were not part of the invasion of Normandy. Although Lady Astor denied that she had ever used the term, the Eighth Army in particular included her in their song, "D-Day Dodgers," sung to the tune of "Lili Marlene."

For those morons who aren't familiar with the song, here's a version written by Canadian veterans who served with the Brits in "sunny Italy." This one comes with a slideshow of what the Italian campaign of 1944 was really like.

http://tinyurl.com/ll9muhe

And a Merry Christmas to our Canadian morons.

Posted by: Basement Cat at December 25, 2014 04:39 PM (omf9g)

75 Yeah, it's amazing how much 'Stuff' got shipped home during the war years.

Couldn't happen today of course...
Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 04:35 PM (Ce4DF)

Yup. The Military has taken all the initiative out of being in War

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 04:42 PM (nzKvP)

76 Well the showing I wanted to see is sold out for Unbroken. Will try another day I guess.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 25, 2014 04:42 PM (5HyS+)

77 Yeah, it's amazing how much 'Stuff' got shipped home during the war years.

Couldn't happen today of course...
Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 04:35 PM (Ce4DF)
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My dad shipped back some museum-quality bronze statues of the Buddha that were buried in earthen mounds by a Burmese village in anticipation of a Japanese attack. The Japanese wiped out the village, then the Americans wiped out the Japanese. He also salvaged a beautiful marble head of Buddha that was rifle-butted off a statue. He found a nice place in our home for the samurai sword and seppuku knife left behind by the defeated Japanese officer.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 25, 2014 04:45 PM (KH1sk)

78 For DiT: The Brits are probably some of those who were unfairly criticized as "D-Day Dodgers" because they were not part of the invasion of Normandy. Although Lady Astor denied that she had ever used the term, the Eighth Army in particular included her in their song, "D-Day Dodgers," sung to the tune of "Lili Marlene."

Brits not part of D-Day? I guess Gold, Sword and Juno Beaches were invaded by Fairies for Neverland then!

Posted by: Old Dog at December 25, 2014 04:46 PM (tQYJH)

79 Supposed arson at Swedish mosque. Five injured.

Posted by: Baldy at December 25, 2014 04:46 PM (+35FH)

80 **waves** Hi Anna! I lacked sufficient pep to brave the crowds today. I'll see "Into the Woods" tomorrow and "Unbroken" this weekend.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 25, 2014 04:47 PM (KH1sk)

81 There is no peace in the Holy Land:

Young girl seriously wounded by firebomb in West Bank terror attack
Father and daughter's car attacked by Palestinians in West Bank, leading girl to suffer third degree wounds to over 50% of body, month after mother escaped a similar attack.

No word yet from kerry and Fredo, except of course it must be Israel's fault

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 04:51 PM (nzKvP)

82 Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 25, 2014 04:45 PM (KH1sk)

Cool!

But like I said, that can't happen anymore. At least on any kind of large scale.

Too many REMF's between there (where the war is) and here.

Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 04:51 PM (Ce4DF)

83 *waves to All Hail Eris*

I'll probably try again Sunday.

Some of the 'fashions' I'm seeing should be war crimes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 25, 2014 04:53 PM (5HyS+)

84 Brits not part of D-Day?

Of course they were! Hell, my dad was there too. But there were units of the British Eighth Army in Italy in 1944 who continued to fight northward after the fall of Rome until they were able to force the Gothic Line before the fighting stopped for the winter. And some of these soldiers felt that all the attention after D-Day went to the British troops in France and they were largely forgotten.

Posted by: Basement Cat at December 25, 2014 04:53 PM (omf9g)

85 Got my Glock on Tuesday and tomorrow I go to join the Premier Weapons Range in the Area. Happy Holidays

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 04:55 PM (nzKvP)

86 Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 04:51 PM (Ce4DF)
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I would have absconded with Saddam's tacky bedroom suite. You just know there were some righteous black velvet paintings in that collection. And lots of scimitars and animal prints. Sexacious!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 25, 2014 04:55 PM (KH1sk)

87 My Daddy had a short cigar in his footlocker that he took off a young German soldier in June of '44. What am I saying? Private Erowmero was only 19, his own self! So anyway, if that cigar was a week old in that German kid's pocket, it was 15 years old when I smoked it, at the advanced age of 10. Now that's what a dumb kid does with war trophies. I just made 2 ham and cheese sammiches (don't start on me! Mrs. E is watching a movie) for work this weekend. A damn shame I can't have a beer with them. I bet those Brits can have a beer at work.

Posted by: Erowmero at December 25, 2014 04:56 PM (go5uR)

88 And some of these soldiers felt that all the attention after D-Day went to the British troops in France and they were largely forgotten.
Posted by: Basement Cat at December 25, 2014 04:53 PM (omf9g)

Your telling me!

Posted by: Mark Clark at December 25, 2014 04:56 PM (nzKvP)

89 Sexacious!

Posted by: All Hail Eris
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Goat porn?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 25, 2014 04:57 PM (F2IAQ)

90 Now that's what a dumb kid does with war trophies. I just made 2 ham and cheese sammiches (don't start on me! Mrs. E is watching a movie) for work this weekend. A damn shame I can't have a beer with them. I bet those Brits can have a beer at work.
Posted by: Erowmero at December 25
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I still have the pack of Philip Morris cigarettes (in olive drab!) that I found in my dad's old flight jacket.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 25, 2014 05:00 PM (F2IAQ)

91 Must walk The Duchess Sophia. bbl.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 25, 2014 05:01 PM (F2IAQ)

92 Wrong. Dec. 25th, 1642 was the Julian calendar date of his birthdate. Under the modern Gregorian calendar used by most of the world, Sir Isaac Newton was born on Jan. 4, 1643.

The United Kingdom - then including the Colonies - didn't adopt the Gregorian Calendar until 1752. Christmas itself was adopted on a Julian scheme.

I'm giving Tyson a pass on this one. Not a pass on the trolling of course.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 25, 2014 05:02 PM (AVEe1)

93 I have my Father's blood stained Jewish Bible that he had with him in Iwo Jima.

Posted by: Mark Clark at December 25, 2014 05:02 PM (nzKvP)

94 "You just know there were some righteous black velvet paintings in that
collection."

Hell, with HIS kind of money they were probably autographed!

Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 05:04 PM (Ce4DF)

95 Oops sock off

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 05:05 PM (nzKvP)

96 Of course, Newton was a theist.

Posted by: --- at December 25, 2014 05:06 PM (MMC8r)

97 Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 05:05 PM (nzKvP)

Details?

Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 05:07 PM (Ce4DF)

98 Details?
Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 05:07 PM (Ce4DF)

Of?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 05:08 PM (nzKvP)

99 Iwo Jima, blood stained Bible.

Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 05:10 PM (Ce4DF)

100 Iwo Jima, blood stained Bible.
Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 05:10 PM (Ce4DF)

He was on Iwo Jima from the very first wave and cut himself somewhere along the way- not shot- and he got some blood on his Bible. Nothing all that dramatic. His time on Iwo Jima was dramatic, but the story of the blood on the Bible just a side note, except i have it to this day.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 05:13 PM (nzKvP)

101 "His time on Iwo Jima was dramatic".

I can't even imagine. But that's pretty neat that you have that from your Dad, and it's part of a great history.

Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 05:17 PM (Ce4DF)

102 Jewish bible?

Please enlighten a shipmate

Posted by: butch at December 25, 2014 05:18 PM (HLx1C)

103 I can't even imagine. But that's pretty neat that you have that from your Dad, and it's part of a great history.
Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 05:17 PM (Ce4DF)

Yes and I have all his original papers: Orders, Plans, Maps, and Pictures ( the type Soldiers and Marines often take in battle- some very gruesome of the dead enemy ).

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 05:19 PM (nzKvP)

104 BTW, the Italian campaign was a shit sandwich, beginning to end.

We Yanks and Brits essentially had to do it to take some pressure off the Eastern Front and to keep Stalin in the war.

Posted by: butch at December 25, 2014 05:20 PM (HLx1C)

105 Jewish bible?

Please enlighten a shipmate
Posted by: butch at December 25, 2014 05:18 PM (HLx1C)

What of you mean? They handed out Bibles to servicemen in WW2. And to Jewish Solders, Sailors, and Marines it was "specifically" labeled for Members of the Jewish Faith.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 05:21 PM (nzKvP)

106 When I first enlisted in '68, I worked for some WW II vets. I know in their eyes I was just a smartass college dropout dodging the draft. Well, I was. At the time. I was in awe of them. Without exception, those guys were a different breed from us. Something about those guys who fought WW II. They came home and went to work to build America. Us baby boomers sure let those guys down.

Posted by: Erowmero at December 25, 2014 05:21 PM (go5uR)

107 NGU - I hope you are considering donating those papers to a WWII museum or library.

Posted by: butch at December 25, 2014 05:22 PM (HLx1C)

108 NGU - Sorry, just being a stupid goy. Thanks for enlightening me.

Posted by: butch at December 25, 2014 05:23 PM (HLx1C)

109 NGU - I hope you are considering donating those papers to a WWII museum or library.
Posted by: butch at December 25, 2014 05:22 PM (HLx1C)

I don't think that are all that scarce, but yes one of these days I will look into that. Actually next time I am down at Parris Island i will talk to the Museum curator down there. We did speak about it some last time.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 05:24 PM (nzKvP)

110 From last year's int'l conference on WWII: "A Tough Gut Rather Than a Soft Underbelly: Fighting in Italy" -

http://tinyurl.com/keqas3y

((1 hr 14 mins))

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 25, 2014 05:25 PM (KH1sk)

111 "And to Jewish Solders, Sailors, and Marines it was "specifically" labeled for Members of the Jewish Faith."

Never heard of that. So what was the difference? Just cut out the New Testament?

Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 05:27 PM (Ce4DF)

112 Never heard of that. So what was the difference? Just cut out the New Testament?
Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 05:27 PM (Ce4DF)

Well not sure. i never compared them side by side, but I yes, I don't think the New Testament even makes a cameo appearance. It's in my Office.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 05:31 PM (nzKvP)

113 So it would be the Torah, correct? That's the only thing I can imagine. And your father's stuff sounds pretty interesting.

Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 05:34 PM (Ce4DF)

114 So it would be the Torah, correct? That's the only thing I can imagine. And your father's stuff sounds pretty interesting.
Posted by: HH at December 25, 2014 05:34 PM (Ce4DF)

Yes, the Torah is the first 5 books of the Bible.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 25, 2014 05:37 PM (nzKvP)

115 I have a Government issue Armed Forces Hymnal, 1942. Has hymns and liturgical sections for Protestant, Catholic, and Jewish. Curiously, no moslem stuff.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 25, 2014 05:55 PM (F2IAQ)

116 I was in a car accident in Italy years ago with a Swiss family. We were hit by a hit-and-run driver from Argentina.

Anyway, the owner of the local Hertz rental franchise took us under his wing because there was a telephone strike and we couldn't call out of the country. He enthusiastically proclaimed his love for America, which was based in large part on being a Prisoner of War here during WWII.

Nice guy, but he drove on sidewalks when he thought it would save him some time. Scary to be in the car with him going over a bridge.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at December 25, 2014 10:23 PM (qahv/)

117 Basement Cat, my Father in Law was in 504th Reg of the 82nd. What was your father in?
He passed in 1999. He was an "old Man" being 32yr old in 1944.

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Putting on my prognostication hat I'd like to say that inevitably it will come up that a former employee did this and DPRK was used as a political and business expedient.

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