Ted Nugent Explains How An Electric Guitar Works (CBD)

Probably a better description than 99% of America's high school physics teachers are capable of....

Posted by: Open Blogger at 06:07 PM

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1 fikrst?

Posted by: mallfly at December 21, 2014 06:01 PM (zjcTL)

2 Works fine, last a long time, don't fk with it. Standard Navy quote for how something works.

Posted by: Vic at December 21, 2014 06:01 PM (u9gzs)

3 oh, I meant furst.

Posted by: mallfly at December 21, 2014 06:01 PM (zjcTL)

4 Turd...?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2014 06:02 PM (BNIaE)

5 Which part attracts the groupies?

Posted by: --- at December 21, 2014 06:02 PM (MMC8r)

6

wow split ends much?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 21, 2014 06:02 PM (fWEL6)

7 It works just fine.

Posted by: Eddie Van Halen at December 21, 2014 06:02 PM (4IFRz)

8 It goes "Bing bong bing bong clang clang whoop".

Posted by: Alex Lifeson at December 21, 2014 06:03 PM (MbqmP)

9 You can't post about elected guitars unless you are willing to use your real name Open Blogger!

Posted by: Gard Kenner at December 21, 2014 06:07 PM (z/Ubi)

10 Electric*

Posted by: Gard Kenner at December 21, 2014 06:07 PM (z/Ubi)

11 Speaking of Ted, here is a story a good NRA guy will love.

http://tinyurl.com/l7zu8nr

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2014 06:07 PM (0FSuD)

12 If Uncle Ted says it, you can bet the ranch it's right.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 21, 2014 06:08 PM (0HooB)

13 "Open Blogger!"

Ummm.

He did.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2014 06:08 PM (BNIaE)

14 Ummm.

He did.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2014 06:08 PM (BNIaE)

Professional comedienne here, everybody. Don't try this at home.

Posted by: Alex Lifeson at December 21, 2014 06:09 PM (MbqmP)

15 You can keep yer string theory & quantum whatnot, most of the universe that I deal with on a daily basis works just fine on old-school physics.

Happy solstice to all ! My observance consisted of going outside for a cig & opening another bottle of hard cider.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 21, 2014 06:09 PM (OCcU9)

16 Ted/Ted 2016
I know, both are Texans.

Posted by: Erowmero at December 21, 2014 06:10 PM (go5uR)

17 If you weren't ashamed of what you're saying, you wouldn't post as "Open Blogger." And what the hell kind of degree is a CBD anyway?

Posted by: Dickless Ken Doll Gardner at December 21, 2014 06:10 PM (lG2E3)

18 Huh. I thought it was Christmas elves.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 21, 2014 06:11 PM (LImiJ)

19
Cowboys/Patriots super bowl??

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 21, 2014 06:13 PM (fWEL6)

20 "Professional comedienne here, everybody. Don't try this at home."

Thank you, thank you.

*Bows. Heads off stage.*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2014 06:13 PM (BNIaE)

21
X X-tie is at his 2nd Cowboys game in a row??

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 21, 2014 06:14 PM (fWEL6)

22 Well, it does help if you don't let the magic smoke out of the electronic bits.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 21, 2014 06:14 PM (OCcU9)

23 I think it's high time we started electing guitars!

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 21, 2014 06:14 PM (2cS/G)

24 >>>Cowboys/Patriots super bowl??

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys Girls at December 21, 2014 06:13 PM (fWEL6)<<<

Please, Santa!

Posted by: a Cowboys fan in New England at December 21, 2014 06:14 PM (qfd4W)

25 "Cowboys/Patriots super bowl??:

Pats I can buy. Cowboys not yet.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2014 06:14 PM (BNIaE)

26 Nice story Nip!

Posted by: Infidel at December 21, 2014 06:15 PM (1YT1i)

27 "
I think it's high time we started electing guitars!"

Might as well.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2014 06:16 PM (BNIaE)

28 25
"Cowboys/Patriots super bowl??:
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Oh, hell no.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 21, 2014 06:16 PM (vVSOO)

29

Luck got yanked.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 21, 2014 06:16 PM (fWEL6)

30 I'd rather, as a Pats fan, play the Cowboys than the Packers. But still a long way to go before that's even a consideration.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 21, 2014 06:16 PM (2cS/G)

31 Matt Hasselbeck........?

I didn't know we was still around.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2014 06:16 PM (BNIaE)

32 A decent guitar wouldn't be any worse than some of the ***** we have been electing lately.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 21, 2014 06:17 PM (OCcU9)

33 *he

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2014 06:17 PM (BNIaE)

34
**cough** Packers **cough**

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 21, 2014 06:18 PM (dFi94)

35 A decent guitar wouldn't be any worse than some of the ***** we have been electing lately.

Destined to take the place of the ham sandwich in your mythology.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 21, 2014 06:19 PM (0HooB)

36
Love the Nuge, love that the left hates him.

Also I understand they changed the name of Johnny Football to Johnny Sack.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 21, 2014 06:19 PM (NtzGn)

37
didn't the Steelers steal that super bowl win?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 21, 2014 06:19 PM (fWEL6)

38 This may be true.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 21, 2014 06:20 PM (OCcU9)

39 Ted for Department of Education Secretary.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 21, 2014 06:20 PM (0HooB)

40 "*cough** Packers **cough**"

Nose. To. Finger.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2014 06:20 PM (BNIaE)

41 Obama will always get the ukelele vote...

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 21, 2014 06:21 PM (2cS/G)

42 grammie, is that korv cooked in grape jelly ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 21, 2014 06:22 PM (OCcU9)

43 hmmm,,, guitars, politicians...stranglehold

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2014 06:22 PM (ldBBV)

44
no, in fish jelly

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 21, 2014 06:22 PM (fWEL6)

45
Back in the day, it was a thing:

BBC Rockschool - Series 1 - Ep.1 - Introduction

http://youtu.be/cEcI66YGQqk?list=PL2F56203EF27733A6

Painfull "Flock of Seagulls" hair and questionable 80s fashion choices, but it was fun. Nerdlingers will especially enjoy the primitive Synth episodes.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2014 06:23 PM (kdS6q)

46 Bam! Now we know why Obama went after Fender! He who controls the guitars, controls the world!

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 21, 2014 06:23 PM (2cS/G)

47 How a drum works. You hit it with a stick and it goes boom.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 21, 2014 06:24 PM (LImiJ)

48 42 grammie, is that korv cooked in grape jelly ?

No, just boiled in its own greasy liquid crap.

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 21, 2014 06:24 PM (dFi94)

49 Ted N., a-chord-ing to some, is a musician of note.

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2014 06:25 PM (ldBBV)

50 Nothing to fret about.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 21, 2014 06:26 PM (2cS/G)

51
Pats didn't look spectacular today, but I guess with home field advantage likely, they would be a good bet to get in the show.

Az Cards might have some destiny going to play in the Bowl at home.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 21, 2014 06:27 PM (NtzGn)

52 @43- I save all my old strings.
Um, for making snares. Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Shhhh, be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm hunting wabbits.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 21, 2014 06:28 PM (aVY3U)

53

Cardinals are this year's Seahawks?

or are the Cardinals last year's Chiefs?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 21, 2014 06:28 PM (fWEL6)

54 Ted N., a-chord-ing to some, is a musician of note.

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Yeah, but he's too high strung.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 21, 2014 06:28 PM (LImiJ)

55 mmmm, still sounds good.

Last time I went to a little meat market that makes all kinds of excellent sausage they had what they called Prince Korv sausages - they recommended the grape jelly thing, and told me that the name was because if you slit the sausages before cooking they would curl up and turn inside out and look like a crown.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 21, 2014 06:29 PM (OCcU9)

56 just for the record, take your pick

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2014 06:29 PM (ldBBV)

57 The Pats/Jets game was a miserable affair. Watched the whole thing just because we were at the Spots Bar, and we always stay until the end, they give us our own TV, with volume while others go without, it would be rude to leave. But it was a grind.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 21, 2014 06:30 PM (2cS/G)

58 He lost me at "switches polarity with the alternating current." And now I have the same angry-breaky-things frustration I had in algebra, my very first non-A (a C, in fact).

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 21, 2014 06:30 PM (yxw0r)

59 Almighty Whackmaster?

That was my nickname in High School.

Posted by: --- at December 21, 2014 06:30 PM (MMC8r)

60 And go Packers!
gives grammie a wave

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 21, 2014 06:31 PM (aVY3U)

61 Sports bar. The Measles Cafe doesn't open until next week.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 21, 2014 06:31 PM (2cS/G)

62 Now explain that wife-beater, Dum Dum.

Posted by: The Great Gazoo at December 21, 2014 06:31 PM (KG1MP)

63
The only reason I'm watching this game now is I'm waiting for the Colts to make a spectacular play and then celebrate as if they're winning.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 21, 2014 06:31 PM (fWEL6)

64
*waves back at teej*

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 21, 2014 06:31 PM (dFi94)

65 I watch a lot of Forensic Files (even though it's on CNN Headline News). Anyway, Trey Gowdy was just on discussing one of his murder cases.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 21, 2014 06:33 PM (LImiJ)

66 So how this come into play with the solstice since we are all so sciencey?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 21, 2014 06:33 PM (9kWyt)

67 >>>Probably a better description than 99% of America's high school physics teachers are capable of. . .

In high school physics class a buddy of mine brought in his guitar and plugged it into the teacher's oscilloscope to show the different wave forms (triangle wave normally, square wave when using a fuzz box). I did the same with an analog synth, showing how to build a sound using oscillators, envelope filters, etc.
(I still think we were smarter than this particular teacher.)

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 21, 2014 06:34 PM (fIv/H)

68 Whoops. Vox lost credibility again. Turns out longest night ever was over 100 years ago.

Posted by: DanR at December 21, 2014 06:34 PM (pCjop)

69 guess I'm being a pain in the neck

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2014 06:35 PM (ldBBV)

70 The key is recognizing your problem.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 21, 2014 06:35 PM (2cS/G)

71
You being punny?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 21, 2014 06:36 PM (fWEL6)

72
You see Bob of the Flannel, magnets can create electricity and electricity can create (electro)magnets. So alternating electricity changes the polarity of the magnets. Or something.

In any event, no talent means you can ignore all this and turn on the radio which operate on unicorn kidneys and fairy hearts.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 21, 2014 06:37 PM (NtzGn)

73
Does this thread mean, then, that Ted"The world's Sweatiest Rocker" Nugent is now politically rehabilitated?

I'm voting "yes", particularly given the host lineup at MSNBC.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 21, 2014 06:37 PM (FlRtG)

74 58
He lost me at "switches polarity with the alternating current." And now I
hav12e the same angry-breaky-things frustration I had in algebra, my very
first non-A (a C, in fact).

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 21, 2014 06:30 PM (yxw0r)
---------Yep, good old AC. Switches polarity about 110 times per second. As opposed to DC, which doesn't. Did you know that, even though many of your devices plugged into the wall are AC, they all operate on DC. Usually plus and minus 12 and 6 volts DC.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 21, 2014 06:37 PM (vVSOO)

75 Whoops. Vox lost credibility again. Turns out longest night ever was over 100 years ago.

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I thought it was that when I was a kid and got into the Peppermint Schnapps.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 21, 2014 06:37 PM (LImiJ)

76
Yes, but magnets...

how dos they work?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 21, 2014 06:39 PM (fWEL6)

77 Yes, but magnets...

how dos they work?
Posted by: Soothsayer
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No one actually knows.

Richard Feynman knew..., but he died.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2014 06:40 PM (kgisg)

78 a minor challenge, flat out luck

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2014 06:40 PM (ldBBV)

79 Switches polarity about 110 times per second.

I thought it was 60.

Posted by: Ronster at December 21, 2014 06:41 PM (9vrWU)

80
X X-tie is nothing more than a fan boy

what a loser

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 21, 2014 06:41 PM (fWEL6)

81 76
Yes, but magnets...

how dos they work?

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That is best explained using the bladder of a sheep.

Posted by: Sir Bedevere at December 21, 2014 06:41 PM (4IFRz)

82 magnet repair is an attractive profession

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2014 06:42 PM (ldBBV)

83 Guess I'm just gonna halfta tune someone out.

Gotta plug the fone in anyway.
Leofb

Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 21, 2014 06:42 PM (aVY3U)

84 Richard Feynman knew..., but he died.
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Yeah, and did you ever look at some of the equations he created? HOLY CRAP! It made my head hurt just looking at them no less trying to figure out what the heck he just said!

Posted by: Old Blue at December 21, 2014 06:43 PM (vVSOO)

85
X-tie got his stomach stapled, when, two years ago?

And he's still shaped like the blueberry girl from Willy Wonka's?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 21, 2014 06:43 PM (fWEL6)

86
#74

---------Yep, good old AC. Switches polarity about 110 times per second.

Nope -- 60 cycles per second (60 Herz).

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 21, 2014 06:43 PM (RcpcZ)

87 Yep, good old AC. Switches polarity about 110 times per second. As opposed to DC, which doesn't. Did you know that, even though many of your devices plugged into the wall are AC, they all operate on DC. Usually plus and minus 12 and 6 volts DC.
Posted by: Old Blue
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120 times a second.
Which is why we are getting screwed by the electric companies. They send current through in one direction, and then a few milliseconds later, suck it back in. It's a scam!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2014 06:44 PM (kgisg)

88
You see that promo for 60 Minutes?

I had no idea Tom Coburn is "known for being the godfather of the tea party"!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 21, 2014 06:44 PM (fWEL6)

89
Yes, but magnets...

how dos they work?

Well Sooth of the Incorrigible, you throw the mag nets out usually in the ocean, the fish swim into them and you pull the fish into your boat.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 21, 2014 06:44 PM (NtzGn)

90 I thought it was 60.

Posted by: Ronster at December 21, 2014 06:41 PM (9vrWU)
-----My bad. You're right, sixty cycles per second. The 110 is voltage RMS. (Root Mean Square)

Posted by: Old Blue at December 21, 2014 06:45 PM (vVSOO)

91 Vox can LOSE credibility?

Posted by: --- at December 21, 2014 06:45 PM (MMC8r)

92 Hertz donut.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 21, 2014 06:45 PM (W5DcG)

93 Well, sometimes magnets work like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZqZSYGLk3Y

Posted by: kindltot at December 21, 2014 06:45 PM (t//F+)

94 Nope -- 60 cycles per second (60 Herz).
Posted by: Ed Anger
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True, but the polarity does indeed alter twice each cycle, which is why the flicker rate of florescent bulbs is 120 Hz.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2014 06:46 PM (kgisg)

95 ---------Yep, good old AC. Switches polarity about
110 times per second. As opposed to DC, which doesn't. Did you know
that, even though many of your devices plugged into the wall are AC,
they all operate on DC. Usually plus and minus 12 and 6 volts DC.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 21, 2014 06:37 PM (vVSOO)
************

Now you're just mocking me. Oh, well. At the least, I'm glad there are morons who understand these things.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 21, 2014 06:47 PM (yxw0r)

96 Yeah, and did you ever look at some of the equations he created? HOLY CRAP! It made my head hurt just looking at them no less trying to figure out what the heck he just said!
Posted by: Old Blue
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Thus, Dr. Feynman received a REAL Nobel Prize..., as opposed the imaginary thing handed to El Jeffe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2014 06:48 PM (kgisg)

97 Our a.c. is 60 hertz, Europe is 50 hertz. why ?

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2014 06:49 PM (ldBBV)

98
That big thing on your power cord to your computer is the ac to dc converter. Think of DC as for batteries and AC for most everything else.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 21, 2014 06:49 PM (NtzGn)

99 Our a.c. is 60 hertz, Europe is 50 hertz. why ?

Their electricity is metric.

Posted by: --- at December 21, 2014 06:50 PM (MMC8r)

100 Our a.c. is 60 hertz, Europe is 50 hertz. why ? <<<<<<<

Common Core Math.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 21, 2014 06:50 PM (NtzGn)

101 Jeezus.

With dumbass Wheeden the Cowboys are still kicking total ass.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2014 06:50 PM (BNIaE)

102 Which is why we are getting screwed by the electric companies. They send current through in one direction, and then a few milliseconds later, suck it back in. It's a scam!

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So we're paying for it twice?!!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 21, 2014 06:50 PM (LImiJ)

103 Our a.c. is 60 hertz, Europe is 50 hertz. why ?

Because they are stupid?

Posted by: Ronster at December 21, 2014 06:51 PM (9vrWU)

104 Our a.c. is 60 hertz, Europe is 50 hertz. why ?

Powered by Eurotrash.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 21, 2014 06:51 PM (KDLSe)

105 You see that promo for 60 Minutes?

I had no idea Tom Coburn is "known for being the godfather of the tea party"!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys Girls at December 21, 2014 06:44 PM (fWEL6)

It will not be a complete 60 Minutes report unless they mention his STD lectures for congressional summer interns. I'm not joking. (He's an OB/GYN)

Posted by: Vendette at December 21, 2014 06:51 PM (4fb9a)

106 97
Our a.c. is 60 hertz, Europe is 50 hertz. why ?

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2014 06:49 PM (ldBBV)
------And the voltage is higher. Why? Because they're Euros. And probably French. Which would explain a lot.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 21, 2014 06:51 PM (vVSOO)

107 Conference call alert just went off. Seriously, Sunday at 7pm, why did I agree to that? I think sharp-tongued Lincoln might come out in this one.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 21, 2014 06:51 PM (2cS/G)

108 The 110 isn't far off because the polar state exists for half of each cycle.

Posted by: Sine Language by Jerry Cotangent at December 21, 2014 06:52 PM (KG1MP)

109 >>>Our a.c. is 60 hertz, Europe is 50 hertz. why ?

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2014 06:49 PM (ldBBV)<<<

'Murica, fuck yeah!

Posted by: USA... C at December 21, 2014 06:52 PM (qfd4W)

110 Our a.c. is 60 hertz, Europe is 50 hertz. why ?
Posted by: seamrog
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Because they are lazy. Everyone knows that.

Actually, the Europeans wound up with that just kind of arbitrarily. There were many 50Hz systems in the U.S., way back.

We are better off, for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it is very easy to keep time by dividing the line frequency.

From a practical standpoint, it allows us to user less bulky inductive devices, like transformers. That is the reason that aircraft systems have used frequencies like 400 Hz. Smaller magnetics.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2014 06:53 PM (kgisg)

111 Did that Pizza Hut commercial just say, "It's like the whole World in your hands....and then in your mouth."?!

Ew. No.

Posted by: goatexchange at December 21, 2014 06:53 PM (sYUHT)

112 108 The 110 isn't far off because the polar state exists for half of each cycle.

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Because global warming.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 21, 2014 06:53 PM (4IFRz)

113 "Which is why we are getting screwed by the electric companies."

Heh.

Effing electric companies.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2014 06:53 PM (BNIaE)

114 The difference in power cycle is the reason PAL (25 fps) and NTSC (29.97 fps) television signals have different frame rates.

Posted by: --- at December 21, 2014 06:55 PM (MMC8r)

115 108
The 110 isn't far off because the polar state exists for half of each cycle.

Posted by: Sine Language by Jerry Cotangent at December 21, 2014 06:52 PM (KG1MP)
-------Most people think that the power out of the wall plug is 120v AC, but it really isn't. That's why I mentioned RMS. When you calculate the Root Mean Square of the sine wave, the actual voltage is much closer to 110v AC. You do realize that it's been close to twenty years since I've had to deal with this, don't you?

Posted by: Old Blue at December 21, 2014 06:56 PM (vVSOO)

116 And the voltage is higher. Why?
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Again..., it was just kind of a choice. They have an advantage here, because a higher voltage means a lower current for the transmission of a given amount of power, thus, smaller conductors.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2014 06:56 PM (kgisg)

117 Nood stars and shit

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 21, 2014 06:56 PM (4IFRz)

118 Why did AC powered thingies start out marked as 110 volts then went to 115 volts and now 120 volts? I think it varies greatly out of your receptacle.

Posted by: Ronster at December 21, 2014 07:00 PM (9vrWU)

119 You do realize that it's been close to twenty years since I've had to deal with this, don't you?

Funny you say that. It's been about 15 for me.

Posted by: Electronic Buggy Whip repairer at December 21, 2014 07:02 PM (KG1MP)

120 Old Blue - Actually, the 120VAC *is* rms. Which is to say, the same power will be delivered to a fixed resistive load, as would be by a 120VDC supply.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2014 07:03 PM (kgisg)

121 Why did AC powered thingies start out marked as 110 volts then went to 115 volts and now 120 volts? I think it varies greatly out of your receptacle.
Posted by: Ronster
-----------------------

Wait until the coal plants are dead.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2014 07:04 PM (kgisg)

122 voltage is +/- 10%

so 110v=115v=120v

all within 10%

208v 220v same thing

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2014 07:04 PM (ldBBV)

123 Wait until the coal plants are dead.

Yeah, like zero voltage when you need it most.

Posted by: Ronster at December 21, 2014 07:05 PM (9vrWU)

124 The threshold for noticing flicker is supposed to be around 50 Hz. Fluorescent lights flicker at 120 Hz.

BUT...after the eye doctor dilates my pupils I can notice the flicker.

I also used to go nuts at work because the computer refresh rate was set at 60 HZ and it synchronized with the fluorescent lights, causing (to me) a very perceptible and annoying flicker.

Modern electronic ballasts refresh at 20,000 Hz or more, so lights with them don't bother me.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 21, 2014 07:05 PM (RcpcZ)

125 They send current through in one direction, and then a few milliseconds later, suck it back in. It's a scam!

It's like a strip club, you're paying for the shaking not the booty.

Posted by: DaveA at December 21, 2014 07:09 PM (DL2i+)

126 208v 220v same thing

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2014 07:04 PM (ldBBV)

I'm pretty stupid when it comes to AC, but I thought the 208 voltage had something to do with 3 phase.

Posted by: Ronster at December 21, 2014 07:10 PM (9vrWU)

127
I've got a book that explains the 120 v 110 voltage.

Ideally, the power at the pole should be 120 volts but it's often is a few volts lower -- around 114. By the time it gets to your outlets it has usually dropped to about 112 volts. It's caused by resistance in the wires and transformer efficiency.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 21, 2014 07:11 PM (RcpcZ)

128 >> Our a.c. is 60 hertz, Europe is 50 hertz. why ?

Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion
and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of
our precious bodily fluids. frequencies.

This are the same numbnuts that threw away 6000 year old measurement measurements units to give us meters and tried to give us 10 month years.

They are dripping with the need to control other people and too ignorant to control themselves. In their ignorance, they felt "50" sounded better than "60" and made it so. But it is less efficient and even for light bulbs it is much harder to make work effectively. Any idiot could see that, but Europeans are a very special kind of idiot -- never forget that.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at December 21, 2014 07:11 PM (LWu6U)

129 I also used to go nuts at work because the computer refresh rate was set at 60 HZ and it synchronized with the fluorescent lights, causing (to me) a very perceptible and annoying flicker.
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It's fairly well known that off-axis (less sensitive) vision is susceptible to a perceived 60 Hz flicker. Fluorescents have driven me crazy for years.
http://tinyurl.com/oa7asnx

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2014 07:12 PM (kgisg)

130 Ted Nugent for Speaker of The House!

I switched on Fox News (something I rarely do) and who do I see? Liz Cheney in some roundtable telling me Jeb is a conservative....because Florida, Path, and Common core.

Fuck these people and fuck FNC.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 21, 2014 07:12 PM (XzRw1)

131
I think it's high time we started electing guitars!

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 21, 2014 06:14 PM (2cS/G)

Don't fret, worst that could happen is that we get a close, neck and neck election.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 21, 2014 07:13 PM (8v9fw)

132 It's like a strip club, you're paying for the shaking not the booty.
Posted by: DaveA
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Succinct.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2014 07:13 PM (kgisg)

133 208v can be single or three phase.

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2014 07:19 PM (ldBBV)

134 ?!??! He lost me at "frequency".

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 21, 2014 07:20 PM (3MNCs)

135 126
208v 220v same thing

Posted by: seamrog at December 21, 2014 07:04 PM (ldBBV)

I'm pretty stupid when it comes to AC, but I thought the 208 voltage had something to do with 3 phase.

Rare to find 208vac as three phase.

Most homes today have 220-240 volts single phase already.
How do you think the electric cloths dryer is powered?

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 21, 2014 07:22 PM (XzRw1)

136 I think I'd better stick to DC. I kind of understand it.

Posted by: Ronster at December 21, 2014 07:22 PM (9vrWU)

137 Most homes today have 220-240 volts single phase already.
How do you think the electric cloths dryer is powered?

Yeah, I know that. I believe the only time I've seen 208 voltage was in 3 phase lighting systems. Commercial stuff.

Posted by: Ronster at December 21, 2014 07:27 PM (9vrWU)

138 How do you think the electric cloths dryer is powered?

Modern clothes dryers are powered by socks.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 21, 2014 07:28 PM (0HooB)

139 Yeah, I know that. I believe the only time I've seen 208 voltage was in 3 phase lighting systems. Commercial stuff.

Yes. Sometimes you'll find it in older industrial areas as well. The power companies hate it. LOL

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 21, 2014 07:29 PM (XzRw1)

140 I have many things running on 220 volts. Welders, compressor, pump, etc.

Posted by: Ronster at December 21, 2014 07:29 PM (9vrWU)

141 Whoops. Vox lost credibility again. Turns out longest night ever was over 100 years ago.

Posted by: DanR at December 21, 2014 06:34 PM (pCjop)

It may even be more complicated than that. The longest, darkest time period in the Northern Hemisphere may have been around 50,000 years ago (as opposed to the definition of "night", which is based on the astronomical position of the sun relative to the horizon).

According to the Milankovitch Cycles (eccentricity, tilt and precession), about 50,000 years ago, the earth's orbit was near its most elliptical, our axial tilt was near its maximum, and precession had it pointing at Vega, so winter in the Northern Hemisphere occurred close to aphelion and we were tilted further away from the sun, too.

Now with the current/observed rate of slowing, back then the night would have been about 1 second shorter, but the amount of solar energy (and thus the stuff "bleeding/refracting" past the horizon at sunrise and sunset) would have been considerably less. Whether that would have been enough to overcome the effects of the "massively" shorter day would take more calculations than I can put into it at this point in time. It would certainly have been much colder, however.

Posted by: CQD at December 21, 2014 07:29 PM (G8YYJ)

142 I have sold high voltage equipment all over the US and the world, and in industry voltages come in untold varieties. It depends on what they are stepping down from, and that depends on the utility, the region, the transmission line feeding them, the type of loads nearby, etc.

And it is all +/- 10% (or so) so all the numbers are nominal.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at December 21, 2014 07:30 PM (LWu6U)

143 The best power is British -- 240 volts. You can brew tea quicker than you can insult a frenchy.
The worst power is Northern Japan -- 100V, 50Hz. Even the fucking ovens are 100V.

Posted by: Gentlemen, This is democracy manifest at December 21, 2014 07:34 PM (LWu6U)

144 I've wired all the buildings on my 5 acres. All by code. I know how to make it work, but I don't always know how it works.

Posted by: Ronster at December 21, 2014 07:38 PM (9vrWU)

145 A greater wonder than what's in the skies, is the miracle in your wife's womb.

Congratulations!!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2014 07:43 PM (FsuaD)

146 Dammit to hell, how did my post end up here? F*ckity f*ck.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 21, 2014 07:43 PM (FsuaD)

147 I just saw a holiday tv commercial for Old Navy featuring commie Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 21, 2014 07:43 PM (XzRw1)

148 60Hz vs. 50Hz?

Well...it's ten louder, isn't it?

Posted by: Nigel Tufnel at December 21, 2014 07:47 PM (aZPTA)

149 I think it's high time we started electing guitars!

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 21, 2014 06:14 PM (2cS/G)

I have enough to take over the senate. Some would rule with an iron fist.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 21, 2014 07:47 PM (FMbng)

150

WW2 Tweets from 1942 ‏@RealTimeWWII 8m8 minutes ago

After months of desperate struggle to hold Stalingrad, Soviet defenders now taking brutal toll on trapped Germans.

Posted by: toby928(C) is nothing if not helpful at December 21, 2014 07:58 PM (rwI+c)

151 I think it's high time we started electing guitars!

president Charvel SanDimas

it just sounds right

Posted by: navycopjoe needs to cut a cop hater at December 21, 2014 07:58 PM (/2Qtx)

152 vice president ESP M-1
just won't work

Posted by: navycopjoe needs to cut a open blogger at December 21, 2014 08:00 PM (/2Qtx)

153 If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not reverb.

Posted by: Sherman Unplugged at December 21, 2014 08:11 PM (KG1MP)

154 president Charvel SanDimas

it just sounds right

Posted by: navycopjoe needs to cut a cop hater at December 21, 2014 07:58 PM (/2Qtx)

Jackson King V for war chief!

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 21, 2014 08:13 PM (FMbng)

155 Yeah, Bitch! Magnets!!

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at December 21, 2014 08:16 PM (fBxC6)

156 Damn, I learned something! That wasn't supposed to happen...

Posted by: t-bird at December 21, 2014 08:19 PM (FcR7P)

157 Works fine, last a long time, don't fk with it. Standard Navy quote for how something works.

Posted by: Vic at December 21, 2014 06:01 PM (u9gzs)

Back when I worked years ago at a public park and campground it was "If it is broke Duct (tape) it; if it stays broke Fcuk it (replace it)."*

Yeah, we were operating with old stuff and making things work - or just getting by with what we had - was really high on the agenda. Along with thinking "If you want the bathrooms to be clean why the heck don't you pick up after yourselves and keep your spawn from trashing the place?"
*Camp Dearborn, Milford, Michigan. If not for the campers it would have been heaven.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Check Out Our Humbugs at the Outrage Outlet! (Bahs not incl.) at December 21, 2014 08:36 PM (g+akU)

158 What's the frequency, Kenneth?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 21, 2014 08:42 PM (fIv/H)

159 Actually, the Europeans wound up with that just kind of arbitrarily. There were many 50Hz systems in the U.S., way back.

We are better off, for a number of reasons, not the least of which
is that it is very easy to keep time by dividing the line frequency.

From a practical standpoint, it allows us to user less bulky
inductive devices, like transformers. That is the reason that aircraft
systems have used frequencies like 400 Hz. Smaller magnetics.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2014 06:53 PM (kgisg)

IIRC, the first hydroelectric power plant at Niagara Falls ran at 25 Hz. Transformers built for service on that frequency were massive.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2014 08:52 PM (gvtTX)

160 That there is a heap better than Bj�rk 'splainin' how TV works...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75WFTHpOw8Y

Posted by: Zohydro at December 21, 2014 08:55 PM (5csB/)

161 I just saw a holiday tv commercial for Old Navy featuring commie Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 21, 2014 07:43 PM (XzRw1)

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162 willowed.....

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163 Nice Paul Reed Smith he's playing there.

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