Saturday Morning Politics: Holiday Edition [Y-not]

Texas versus Michigan in one picture:

You know who else hates Christmas?

This guy:

Merry almost-Christmas, you goons!

And Happy Hannukah, too! (Courtesy of my confused neighbors)

Open thread.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:30 AM

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1 That light display is a menorrah-Star of David-"Jesus fish".

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 08:25 AM (9BRsg)

2 Mornin' Horde.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Warlord of the Western Wastes at December 20, 2014 08:25 AM (m9V0o)

3 So what is that in the Satanist Christmas pic, the entrails of a goat?

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 20, 2014 08:26 AM (9QYej)

4 1
That light display is a menorrah-Star of David-"Jesus fish".

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 08:25 AM (9BRsg)

Messianic Jews. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 20, 2014 08:29 AM (yxw0r)

5 A big red snake

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 08:29 AM (9BRsg)

6 If someone put up one of those Satanist displays here it would not last 24 hours and they would have to leave town.

Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2014 08:30 AM (u9gzs)

7 Interesting, Bob.

Are they like Jews for Jesus? I had a high school classmate get into that.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 08:31 AM (9BRsg)

8 Old Kim says they were not involved in the Sony hack, and he wants to help us "investigate". Warns of grave consequences if we don't.

http://is.gd/Yuc4F7

Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2014 08:33 AM (u9gzs)

9 "Messianic Jews."

How strange. Sounds contradictory.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 20, 2014 08:35 AM (BNIaE)

10 7 Interesting, Bob.

Are they like Jews for Jesus? I had a high school classmate get into that.
Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 08:31 AM (9BRsg)

----------------

They're all financial executives for Hobby Lobby.

(Just kidding)

Posted by: Soona at December 20, 2014 08:36 AM (xF71N)

11 Y-Not; I answered your question about DFW in the last thread. Sorry to respond so late.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 20, 2014 08:36 AM (60Vyp)

12 "The greatest gift is knowledge"

Who knew?

Posted by: freaked at December 20, 2014 08:38 AM (JdEZJ)

13 Merry almost Christmas all.

Beautiful tree.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 20, 2014 08:40 AM (XzRw1)

14 7
Interesting, Bob.

Are they like Jews for Jesus? I had a high school classmate get into that.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 08:31 AM (9BRsg)

Both are Messianic Jewish, but Jews for Jesus doesn't establish or maintain congregations. They're an outreach organization. 'Least that's my poor understanding.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 20, 2014 08:41 AM (yxw0r)

15 See- Joel Rosenberg

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 20, 2014 08:43 AM (DftQz)

16 In case you can't link to the story on the "inclusive" Satanic holiday display in my great home state of Michigan:

http://tinyurl.com/nockju6

It's fitting that there's a Detroit chapter of the Satanic Temple. I'd love to attend a church picnic. Can you imagine what molds they use for their jello salads?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 20, 2014 08:46 AM (KH1sk)

17 The photo of the Obama's holiday display on the right seems
underexposed.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 20, 2014 08:46 AM (XzRw1)

18 Shorter Satanists: "I HATE YOU, DAD!"

Posted by: --- at December 20, 2014 08:48 AM (MMC8r)

19 I thought this was going to be about Obama.

The first year he was president, I read an article that said that he and the Mrs. don't give Christmas presents to their daughters. I've noticed since then that there has been no coverage of the Obama's Christmas traditions -- other than their yearly extended (and ludicrously expensive, to taxpayers) vacation in Hawaii.

During other presidencies, the MSM has reported on what kind of gifts the president and his wife exchanged at Christmas, and showed them attending Christmas church services. But there is silence about the Obamas. Could it be that the media is protecting Barry "my Muslim faith" Obama from public speculation about the legitimacy of his professed Christian beliefs?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 20, 2014 08:48 AM (2ruKl)

20 Peace on Earth, Goodwill to Men. I can't see why anyone would have a problem with that.

Posted by: ALH at December 20, 2014 08:49 AM (btTLZ)

21 "We can not have a society in which some dictator someplace can start imposing censorship"

President Zero

G=d , spare us from this mutt.

Posted by: Pick mu own cotton at December 20, 2014 08:50 AM (/WmRg)

22 The NBC News investigative reporter Matthew Cole has pieced together a remarkable story revealing that a single senior officer, who is still in a position of high authority over counterterrorism at the C.I.A. -- a woman who he does not name -- appears to have been a source of years' worth of terrible judgment, with tragic consequences for the United States. Her story runs through the entire report. She dropped the ball when the C.I.A. was given information that might very well have prevented the 9/11 attacks; she gleefully participated in torture sessions afterward; she misinterpreted intelligence in such a way that it sent the C.I.A. on an absurd chase for Al Qaeda sleeper cells in Montana. And then she falsely told congressional overseers that the torture worked.

Had the Senate Intelligence Committee been permitted to use pseudonyms for the central characters in its report, as all previous congressional studies of intelligence failures, including the widely heralded Church Committee report in 1975, have done, it might not have taken a painstaking, and still somewhat cryptic, investigation after the fact in order for the American public to hold this senior official accountable. Many people who have worked with her over the years expressed shock to NBC that she has been entrusted with so much power. A former intelligence officer who worked directly with her is quoted by NBC, on background, as saying that she bears so much responsibility for so many intelligence failures that "she should be put on trial and put in jail for what she has done."

Instead, however, she has been promoted to the rank of a general in the military, most recently working as the head of the C.I.A.'s global-jihad unit. In that perch, she oversees the targeting of terror suspects around the world. (She was also, in part, the model for the lead character in "Zero Dark Thirty.")

... isn't this 'rape' ?

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 20, 2014 08:51 AM (e8kgV)

23 "The greatest gift is knowledge"

Who knew?

Posted by: freaked at December 20, 2014 08:38 AM (JdEZJ)
You have to admit, having the knowledge that virtually every elected representative you'll ever meet is a thieving poltroon is a great gift!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 20, 2014 08:54 AM (fL/7/)

24 Actually, I believe its"Peace on Earth to men of good will"

Posted by: Dennis at December 20, 2014 08:54 AM (Mt69v)

25 So what is that in the Satanist Christmas pic, the entrails of a goat?

The Turd of Enlightenment.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 20, 2014 08:54 AM (rwI+c)

26 12 "The greatest gift is knowledge"
You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.

Posted by: ALH at December 20, 2014 08:55 AM (btTLZ)

27 The NBC News investigative reporter

Starting here, there is a better than even chance that the entire article is a lie.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 20, 2014 08:56 AM (rwI+c)

28 feel good story of the moment: a woman in Illinois (I think it was) has applied for a trademark for "I Can't Breath" and the family of that guy in NYC is apparently going to sue.

cat fight.

Posted by: mallfly at December 20, 2014 08:56 AM (zjcTL)

29 I'm still laughing at the last paragraph in the Sony story that Vic linked this morning.
http://is.gd/2zkOXI

Posted by: someoldguy at December 20, 2014 08:56 AM (tunUw)

30 Link fixed to the Michigan article. Sorry about that typo!

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 08:57 AM (9BRsg)

31 Posted by: someoldguy at December 20, 2014 08:56 AM (tunUw)

Thanks for the repost. Priceless!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 20, 2014 08:58 AM (fL/7/)

32 Schneikies this place has sure been ridding herd on Michiganders this week.

The Finns in the UPER are sore about this situation.

Posted by: Pick mu own cotton at December 20, 2014 08:59 AM (/WmRg)

33 Thanks, Crotchety!

The liquor laws would not bother me... anything's better than Utah! lol

How about Denton?

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 08:59 AM (9BRsg)

34 Apparently, the Mistress of Disaster in the CIA is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfreda_Frances_Bikowsky

Posted by: --- at December 20, 2014 08:59 AM (MMC8r)

35
Zen

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 20, 2014 09:00 AM (7tixI)

36 Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 20, 2014 08:51 AM (e8kgV)

This mystery employee can't spell, doesn't write well, is massively incompetent, and yet she has continually been promoted to positions of increased responsibility in the government, despite her record of demonstrated serial failures and dishonesty in her prior jobs.

I'm guessing she's a minority.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 20, 2014 09:00 AM (2ruKl)

37 "http://is.gd/2zkOXI"

Heh. The irony.

He's sore that some other tin-horn is getting in on his action.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 20, 2014 09:02 AM (BNIaE)

38 On Friday, Obama vowed that the U.S. would "respond," to the attack, though he offered no details on what that response might entail.

He mocked the North Korean regime for launching an "all-out assault" over a satirical movie, but he also chided Sony for responding by shutting down the movie's release.

"I think they made a mistake," Obama said.

Obama said that if somebody can "intimidate" a company out of releasing a satirical movie, "imagine what they start doing when they see a documentary that they don't like or news reports that they don't like.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:03 AM (nqBYe)

39 Bikowsky, I was going to say, fits the profile of a Clinton operative.

Anyone remember the days when the CIA was running quarter page recruiting ads in local newspapers?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 20, 2014 09:04 AM (7tixI)

40 that was from from oldguys link

gah

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:04 AM (nqBYe)

41 I'm guessing that the article in the sidebar wherein ISIS is selling organs is yet another demonstration of the inherent peaceful nature of islam and a cunning homage to capitalism all rolled into one.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 20, 2014 09:04 AM (BZAd3)

42 I like the Messianic Jew Christmas display thingie. I've seen them as necklaces too. I have had a lot of people in my life who were Messianic Jews. That is, Jews who believe that Jesus was and is the Messiah.

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 20, 2014 09:08 AM (dFi94)

43 i for one think the director of the movie should be jailed.

insults carry responsibilty

thou shall not insult islam, king un jong, lgbtxyz, tall women, short women, males of indeterminate unibrow, basket weavers, or use words that spark hurt-suffering amongst peoples.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:09 AM (nqBYe)

44 Morning all.

Well I got an early Christmas and on time Hanukkah present yesterday. My pistol permits. Now another Moron will be armed and dangerous

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2014 09:12 AM (Zmw74)

45 44 Morning all.

Well I got an early Christmas and on time Hanukkah present yesterday. My pistol permits. Now another Moron will be armed and dangerous
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2014 09:12 AM (Zmw74)

Don't shoot!!
Pants down !!

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 20, 2014 09:13 AM (dFi94)

46 Sean Penn in Mother Jones:

This week, the distributors who wouldn't show The Interview and Sony have sent ISIS a commanding invitation. I believe ISIS will accept the invitation. Pandora's box is officially open.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 20, 2014 09:13 AM (e8kgV)

47 If I'm reading this right the Messianic Jew movement sounds more like Evangelical Christians who embrace the Jewish heritage of all Christians. They really don't seem to be Jewish in belief as much as in some customs.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 09:14 AM (9BRsg)

48 i really don't get the messianic jewish movement, wouldn't it be easier to just state themselves as christians?

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:14 AM (nqBYe)

49 Wouldn't it be something if the whole Sony-hack, N.Korea-threat hullabaloo were just a bizarre promotional stunt by the studio that has run amok?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 20, 2014 09:14 AM (NeFrd)

50 And a big shout out to Sony for giving into terrorism.
Not from NorthKorea, I mean from Al big head Sharpton

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2014 09:14 AM (Zmw74)

51 nevergiveup cool beans!

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:15 AM (nqBYe)

52 wait are you in joisey? will you name be printed in the paper?

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:16 AM (nqBYe)

53 males of indeterminate unibrow

Solidarity, sibling!

Posted by: Frida Kahlo at December 20, 2014 09:16 AM (yxw0r)

54 ngu- don't get carried away with your CCW at the office:

"Do you feel like rinsing? Well do ya, punk?"

(Seriously, congrats and stay safe.)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 20, 2014 09:17 AM (NeFrd)

55 seamus, shudder, but with everything a lie how does one discern truth?

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:17 AM (nqBYe)

56 48 i really don't get the messianic jewish movement, wouldn't it be easier to just state themselves as christians?
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:14 AM (nqBYe)

Some do. Some identify as Messianic Jews. I know a college professor, Jewish, who became a Christian in his twenties. He celebrates both the Jewish and Christian holidays.

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 20, 2014 09:17 AM (dFi94)

57 *ulp*

....uh...dlink too much....cereblate....gleat vitoly...

...too much....Johnnie Warkel....too much...*ulp*

Macarran....twenty...five...

Gleat....Supel Happiness...*ulp*...Numbel One Readel...tot*ulp*....

...totar victoly ovel Sony and Plesident Lunning Dog.

You smer...*ulp*...

You smer...*ulp*....

You smerr barrs!

Posted by: Bim Bong-Bun at December 20, 2014 09:18 AM (KBvAm)

58 wait are you in joisey? will you name be printed in the paper?
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:16 AM (nqBYe)

maybe, but there are worse reasons to have your name in the paper

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2014 09:19 AM (Zmw74)

59 grammie, morning.

and after a moment , i decided i shouldn't really take on that topic.

Hope you and yours are having lovely holidays and no coal thoughts

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:20 AM (nqBYe)

60 Obama says Keystone pipeline mostly helps Canadian oil companies, not Americans

????

Even if that is true, what's wrong with helping a close Allie? Oh yeah fuck our Allies and hug our enemies. I forgot we are talking about Fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2014 09:21 AM (Zmw74)

61 Willow,

Thank you, and no coal here. No snow either, which I'm absolutely fine with.

Did I mention I hate winter? So where do I live? Wisconsin.

Uff da.

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 20, 2014 09:22 AM (dFi94)

62 I made a big brown snake of satanic nollij after my morning coffee, let me tell ya.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at December 20, 2014 09:23 AM (MbqmP)

63 I also bought myself a Hanukkah present and it got delivered yesterday: A 5-11 Tactical winter jacket. Outstanding.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2014 09:23 AM (Zmw74)

64 nevergiveup , too true (worst reasons)

and yeah Obama seems to predicate his foreign policy on redefining who His friends are and not who Our enemies are.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:24 AM (nqBYe)

65 47
If I'm reading this right the Messianic Jew movement sounds more like
Evangelical Christians who embrace the Jewish heritage of all
Christians. They really don't seem to be Jewish in belief as much as in
some customs.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 09:14 AM (9BRsg)

***********
I think that's right. It's celebrating Jewish customs and culture but embracing Christian belief.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 20, 2014 09:24 AM (yxw0r)

66 Obama says Keystone pipeline mostly helps Canadian oil companies, not Americans

Those would be our primary oil suppliers, dipshit.

Posted by: --- at December 20, 2014 09:25 AM (MMC8r)

67 so Obama says the pipeline helps Others and not americans. But He seems to define helping others as a better idea in many circumstances than helping America

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:26 AM (nqBYe)

68 Even if that is true, what's wrong with helping a close Allie? Oh yeah fuck our Allies and hug our enemies. I forgot we are talking about Fredo

What he really means is, I don't want to let those dirty refineries in Texas and Louisiana create more jobs for Americans, and if energy prices are low, my green technology is worthless-er.

Posted by: no good deed at December 20, 2014 09:27 AM (w3a0Z)

69 That's right, because helping the people who sell us oil sell that oil cheaper doesn't help us because Social Justice & The Children.

Posted by: Barack Obama's Stuffed Shirts at December 20, 2014 09:27 AM (MbqmP)

70 Personally I think the 60's leftists and their acolytes from academia have been searching desperately, continually, despairingly for someone to surrender to expiate their sins of not being Marxist enough, economic success far beyond that of the Soviet Union, and winning WWII.

In the past, no-other country was both strong enough and unlikely to raze cities, take away all the goodies and hang the intellectual class, but fortunately this iteration of the struggle has realized that if you surrender it doesn't matter how strong your opponent actually is.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2014 09:28 AM (t//F+)

71 Is tonight the longest night of the year, or is that tomorrow ?

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 20, 2014 09:29 AM (dFi94)

72 Eh.

Looks like they're making a movie called-

"The Taking of Tiger Mountain"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtrelJcbFQQ

based on the Mao-approved-commie-novel-

and not-

the awesome (YMMV) rock opera-

by Brian Eno

"Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy"

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?

list=PLCF93A3601AC09CE0

Too bad.

Just another Chinese propaganda CGI crapfest.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2014 09:30 AM (KBvAm)

73 Snowing in Winston-Salem. Light, but steady for the last half hour or so.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 20, 2014 09:30 AM (2cS/G)

74 Theoretically, if a large enough seismic event occurred under Hawaii...

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 20, 2014 09:30 AM (XzRw1)

75 This mystery employee can't spell, doesn't write
well, is massively incompetent, and yet she has continually been
promoted to positions of increased responsibility in the government,
despite her record of demonstrated serial failures and dishonesty in her
prior jobs.

I'm guessing she's a minority.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 20, 2014 09:00 AM (2ruKl)

Nah, she's Polish. (runs, hides)

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 20, 2014 09:32 AM (TPimP)

76 Perhaps in view of the Season, we should float millions of balloons loaded with a cargo of Choco-Pies into North Korea. Heads would explode in Pyong-Yang!

Posted by: dc at December 20, 2014 09:32 AM (b8fB0)

77 grammie, Sunday, December 21
Winter Solstice 2014

still i think it is really whenever children fail to have a decent sleep

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:33 AM (nqBYe)

78 >>Theoretically, if a large enough seismic event occurred under Hawaii...

All we need is a bad batch of "product" from Shady Ed the Opium Man. No need to destroy a lovely set of islands!

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 09:34 AM (9BRsg)

79 Weirded vibrations from the aether. Has the blog been hacked by the norks, narks, or NSA?

Or is it just because I've been reading some old Astounding Stories SF anthologies? bough cheap off some .ru domain.

Posted by: Artuer Bent at December 20, 2014 09:34 AM (iQcPx)

80 38>> You have. No. Idea.

Posted by: Nakoula Basseley at December 20, 2014 09:35 AM (60Vyp)

81 I'll repeat from the previous thread. Sony has said they will still release the movie, just at another time. They didn't cancel the release because of threats from the Norks. They cancelled it because all the movie theaters were saying they could not show it due to the threats.

No theaters, no movie.

Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2014 09:36 AM (u9gzs)

82 77 grammie, Sunday, December 21
Winter Solstice 2014

Thanks willow. At least it will start moving in a positive direction Monday. Did I mention I hate dark cold winter?

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 20, 2014 09:37 AM (dFi94)

83 Good morning!

Hubby is coming home today!!!!! !!!!!!

Well, tonight, at 9:30, if he makes his connection in Atlanta during his 56 minute layover. Yikes.

I seem to have come down with the mild but annoying very drippy cold with a super sore throat that everyone else has had. Would be fine, except I can't find my painfully strong cough drops.

Which one of you borrowed them? Throwing Fishermen's Friends into the Barrel does make a nice explosion, but I need them now...

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 20, 2014 09:38 AM (0xTsz)

84 Mama AJ

Yay for hubby!
Sorry about your throat though

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 20, 2014 09:40 AM (dFi94)

85 Arthur Bent, don't buy the older Astounding stuff, most of it is out of copyright and can be had off of Gutenberg for free. Give a donation if you can

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/search/?query=astounding

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2014 09:40 AM (t//F+)

86 North Korea proposed a joint investigation with the United States on the cyberattack against Sony Pictures, calling the charge by the FBI that it was behind the hack "slander," state media said on Saturday.

An unnamed spokesman of the North's foreign ministry said there would be "grave consequences" if Washington refused to agree to the joint probe and continued to accuse the North, the official KCNA news agency reported.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 20, 2014 09:41 AM (e8kgV)

87 I'll repeat from the previous thread. Sony has said they will still release the movie, just at another time. They didn't cancel the release because of threats from the Norks. They cancelled it because all the movie theaters were saying they could not show it due to the threats.

No theaters, no movie.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2014 09:36 AM (u9gzs)

Yeah yes and no. If Sony had shown some balls and told the Theaters they would stand behind them, things might have been different. Or immediately announce they were releasing the film on DVD or on the Internet, so I don't "buy" that explanation

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2014 09:44 AM (Zmw74)

88 87 Yeah yes and no. If Sony had shown some balls and
told the Theaters they would stand behind them, things might have been
different. Or immediately announce they were releasing the film on DVD
or on the Internet, so I don't "buy" that explanation

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2014 09:44 AM (Zmw74)

The theaters were worried about liability issues and insurance.

Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2014 09:46 AM (u9gzs)

89 What is weird is that I have either heard Taking Tiger Mountain ( by strategy) before, or Eno re-uses melodies and motifs.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2014 09:47 AM (t//F+)

90 Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2014 09:44 AM (Zmw74)

Agreed.

Sony could have looked great had they announced, to great fanfare, that they would not cave into terrorism, and that they would provide security "in an abundance of caution" for every theater that showed the movie.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2014 09:48 AM (Zu3d9)

91 This mystery employee can't spell, doesn't write
well, is massively incompetent, and yet she has continually been
promoted to positions of increased responsibility in the government,
despite her record of demonstrated serial failures and dishonesty in her
prior jobs.

I'm guessing she's a minority.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 20, 2014 09:00 AM (2ruKl)

Maybe.

But, leftards' metric for job success is totally different than a normal human being's-

they don't care how well you do the job-

just how well you follow orders, brown-nose your superiors, and spout the Party line(no matter how ridiculous)-

actual competence at your work is a very distant fifth or sixth concern.

Smart leftists (I know, I know) would realize by now that they have essentially won everything-

short of a kind of Soviet style communist government-

and to maintain their programs-

they need a strong economy and dynamic, prosperous middle class.

That's what amnesty and Boehner's stab in the back, and all the other nonsense are all about-

trying to smoothly cram America into the Socialist Democrat model of Europe.

Plenty of graft for the connected and minimal responsibility to the voters.

Unfortunately, they've chosen to destroy the middle class as part of their plan, and so it cannot succeed.

Therefore, Women like the example above are the necessary superstars of this plan.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2014 09:50 AM (KBvAm)

92 Obama said that if somebody can "intimidate" a company out of releasing a satirical movie, "imagine what they start doing when they see a documentary that they don't like or news reports that they don't like.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:03 AM (nqBYe)

Yes, imagine a chief of staff calling his brother who heads CBS News or senior staffers texting MSNBC anchors in the middle of their newscasts

Imagine that...

Posted by: kbdabear at December 20, 2014 09:50 AM (GrXXa)

93 "...Fishermen's Friends..."

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 20, 2014 09:38 AM (0xTsz)

Gargle with bourbon....but don't spit it out!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2014 09:50 AM (Zu3d9)

94 It is interesting that the foofoorah about the Norks' threat of physical violence and terrorism against theaters has eclipsed the speculation as to what the "Christmas Surprise" of the cyber-terrorists was going to release. There was some veiled references on some talk programs about the importance of not having nasty secrets in your closet, but it is all, now, all tort-liability, finger pointing and who folded first.

Amazing, isn't it?

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2014 09:51 AM (t//F+)

95 Mama AJ:

How to nuke a sore throat:
Get fresh ginger root. Slice & peel around 1teaspoon of it. Put in saucepan with 2 cups water. Bring to a boil then simmer for at least 5 min. Let it cool to tea temp then pur a cup for yourself with a big dollop of honey.
If it makes you cry then put a tea bag of regular tea in to disguise the bite more.

Glad to hear the hubby is coming home!

Posted by: @votermom at December 20, 2014 09:52 AM (im8jx)

96 Christmas is just left over from ancient tree worship
Let's bring a tree into our homes decorate it venerate it and put offerings under it
Oh yeah don't forget to burn a Yiule

Posted by: Tighter at December 20, 2014 09:54 AM (Rnlee)

97 Would this be something to get AlextheChick?
http://tinyurl.com/kq9qtcc

Or maybe this?
http://tinyurl.com/q65sxhk

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 20, 2014 09:54 AM (wfOci)

98 Lurk lurk lurk

So many half-thought-out replies come to mind, and incipient wanna-be jokes and quips; but they don't coalesce into comments, so I lurk.

A symptom of this my season of... lassitude.

Days lately have been overcast. Just chilly enough to be discouraging. Gray, featureless sky, morning to night, day after day. And the daylight itself, so brief! I am miss the sun.

Now! The solstice at last! Sure, the worst of winter is still ahead. No, the dawn doesn't come dramatically sooner, nor the sunset noticeably later, at first. But, just knowing that the cycle has reversed, that the sun is moving north again, is warming, invigorating.

Burst of solstice-inspired energy expired, I back to lurkness shamble.

Posted by: mindful webworker - solar powered at December 20, 2014 09:54 AM (5Ev1l)

99 All Hail Eris, I bet the deviled eggs would really be deviled.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 20, 2014 09:56 AM (wfOci)

100 What is weird is that I have either heard Taking Tiger Mountain ( by strategy) before, or Eno re-uses melodies and motifs.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2014 09:47 AM (t//F+)

Could be an either/or/and kind of thing.

You may have heard it before, but-

I've noticed sometimes his ambient music sounds like some of his previous work slowed down tremendously and re-arranged.

He did a similar thing with Pachelbel's Canon in his first ambient album "Music for Airports" -

if I'm remembering correctly.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2014 09:57 AM (KBvAm)

101 Oh yeah don't forget to burn a Yiule
Posted by: Tighter at December 20, 2014 09:54 AM (Rnlee)
--

Bah. No one lets me blood eagle a lefty.

Posted by: @votermom at December 20, 2014 09:59 AM (lyWtw)

102 Mama AJ:

How to nuke a sore throat:
Get fresh ginger root. Slice & peel around 1teaspoon of it. Put in saucepan with 2 cups water. Bring to a boil then simmer for at least 5 min. Let it cool to tea temp then pur a cup for yourself with a big dollop of honey.
If it makes you cry then put a tea bag of regular tea in to disguise the bite more.

Glad to hear the hubby is coming home!
Posted by: @votermom at December 20, 2014 09:52 AM (im8jx)

Boiling ginger root in Coca Cola works well too.

Tastes good as well.

Add lemon if you wish.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2014 10:00 AM (KBvAm)

103 The first TV ad for Fishermen's Friends I saw years and years ago I had the sound muted for and I thought the ad was for a new brand of condom!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2014 10:00 AM (Dw98+)

104 Of course, there were a lot of one-album groups that were influenced by Eno too. I heard a lot of those on college radio.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2014 10:01 AM (t//F+)

105 YNot,
Look at Right Scoop website to see if Cruz on Hannity is there. That's where I find best of what I don't want to watch or listen to entire shows.

Posted by: Carol at December 20, 2014 10:01 AM (sj3Ax)

106 >>Yay for hubby!
Sorry about your throat though

I supposed it's an okay trade...

*looks brave but put-upon*

>>Gargle with bourbon....but don't spit it out!

Maybe I'll wait until after we get back from the airport to try that...

Votermom, that sounds powerful!!

Well, it will be weird that he'll only be here for less than 2 weeks, but we will make the best of it.

>>But, just knowing that the cycle has reversed, that the sun is moving north again, is warming, invigorating.

Yes! Now if we could have more than 2 sunny days in a row, I'd be happy.

>Partly Cloudy Clear Partly Cloudy Chance of Rain

Sigh.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 20, 2014 10:01 AM (0xTsz)

107 Festivus. Bah.

Posted by: Newman at December 20, 2014 10:01 AM (Dwehj)

108 Now! The solstice at last! Sure, the worst of winter is still ahead. No, the dawn doesn't come dramatically sooner, nor the sunset noticeably later, at first. But, just knowing that the cycle has reversed, that the sun is moving north again, is warming, invigorating.

Posted by: mindful webworker - solar powered at December 20, 2014 09:54 AM (5Ev1l)

Lovely thoughts.

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 20, 2014 10:02 AM (dFi94)

109 Pretty much every culture that lived within wandering range of an evergreen tree incorporated it's "alive all winter" properties into their symbolism/belief systems. Doesn't take a particular theology to notice that green stays green.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 20, 2014 10:02 AM (2cS/G)

110 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfreda_Frances_Bikowsky
Posted by: --- at December 20, 2014 08:59 AM (MMC8r)

Sounds like a serial killer

Posted by: Secundus at December 20, 2014 10:03 AM (uG374)

111 Grammie Winger,
Sunset was stuck at 4:12 for days & was 4:13 Thursday. It's only one minutes, but it is a start.

Posted by: Carol at December 20, 2014 10:05 AM (sj3Ax)

112 Alfreda Frances? Sounds like the parents were expecting a boy.

Posted by: @votermom at December 20, 2014 10:05 AM (U0uOK)

113 99 All Hail Eris, I bet the deviled eggs would really be deviled.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 20, 2014 09:56 AM (wfOci)
------
Ha!

Okay now I'm jazzed about a Very Satanic Mass supper. Lots of crudities, things "a diavolo", and of course everything that can be put on a skewer. And flames! Flames everywhere!!

Okay, I'm off to visit friends. Don't burn the place down until I get back.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 20, 2014 10:06 AM (KH1sk)

114 My husband's grandfather's a Messianic Jew. He came about it in a really round about fashion. He mother was Jewish, but not practicing, and he sort of wandered through various Christian denominations before deciding that Christianity had perverted the intention of Christ by abandoning its Jewish roots. So he follows all the Jewish law/ holidays ect, just with the understanding that Christ was the Messiah. I think some family ties to Judaism are common in that group, but they don't necessarily grow up in families that are practicing.

I think Jews for Jesus are usually people who are raised Jewish who come to the conclusion that Jesus was the Messiah. So functionally, there's not a lot different between the two groups, but they come from different perspectives.

Posted by: Lauren at December 20, 2014 10:07 AM (MYCIw)

115 Then All Hail Eris you might want to ponder this decoration idea

http://tinyurl.com/p23h698

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 20, 2014 10:08 AM (wfOci)

116 98
Now! The solstice at last! Sure, the worst of winter is still ahead. No, the dawn doesn't come dramatically sooner, nor the sunset noticeably later, at first.

Posted by: mindful webworker - solar powered at December 20, 2014 09:54 AM (5Ev1l)

Actually, the sunrise keeps getting later for about two weeks after the solstice.

The earliest sunset was about two weeks before the solstice, and it has gradually been getting later since then. But the sunrise has been getting later faster than the sunset is getting later, so the overall length of daylight has been decreasing.

After the solstice, the process reverses. Now the sunset is getting later faster than the sunrise is getting later, so the overall length of daylight begins increasing.

This is the case for 40� N, at least. The specifics may be different for other latitudes. I believe it has something to do with Earth's elliptical orbit.

Posted by: rickl at December 20, 2014 10:09 AM (sdi6R)

117 The real warmening doesn't begin until March 20th. Bah.

Posted by: Newman at December 20, 2014 10:09 AM (Dwehj)

118 I've got things I have to do today.
I hope everyone has nice day!

Posted by: Carol at December 20, 2014 10:10 AM (sj3Ax)

119 118 I've got things I have to do today.
I hope everyone has nice day!
Posted by: Carol at December 20, 2014 10:10 AM (sj3Ax)

You too, Carol.

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 20, 2014 10:11 AM (dFi94)

120 At its apogee, Hanukkah appears to have nine lights.
This you call a festival of lights?
You guys need to consult with South Phily Italians on this topic.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at December 20, 2014 10:11 AM (z899H)

121 Obama said that if somebody can "intimidate" a company out of releasing a satirical movie, "imagine what they start doing when they see a documentary that they don't like or news reports that they don't like.
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:03 AM (nqBYe)

So far it seems that they start screaming "Racism." And demand to "Burn this bitch down!" and proceed to riot.

Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2014 10:11 AM (zt+N6)

122 Obama really is going to release them all before he leaves office. There are only 130 left, so he only has to release 1-2 a week for the next 2 years.

Agence France-Presse @AFP 12m
#BREAKING: US sends home four Afghan Guantanamo detainees: Pentagon

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 20, 2014 10:11 AM (ZPrif)

123 Posted by: rickl at December 20, 2014 10:09 AM (sdi6R)

And the wobble. Don't forget the wobble.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2014 10:12 AM (Zu3d9)

124 Grammie Winger,
I hope you're feeling better!

Posted by: Carol at December 20, 2014 10:12 AM (sj3Ax)

125 I am, Carol thank you!

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 20, 2014 10:14 AM (dFi94)

126 Now I'm really curious about my neighbors.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 10:14 AM (9BRsg)

127 #BREAKING: US sends home four Afghan Guantanamo detainees: Pentagon

Cutting off their noses to spite their faces.

Posted by: Newman at December 20, 2014 10:15 AM (Dwehj)

128 Good Twitter snark.

http://tinyurl.com/n2kqxwv

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 20, 2014 10:16 AM (LImiJ)

129 Now! The solstice at last!

I plan to sacrifice a cow to the Winter Gods today.

Well...when I say "sacrifice"-

I mean i'm going to burn two whole sides of beef in a bonfire with various herbs to waft a glorious meaty sacrificial smoke up to the Winter Gods.

Well actually....when I say i'm going to burn two whole sides of beef in a bonfire with various herbs to waft a glorious meaty sacrificial smoke up to the Winter Gods-

I mean-

I'm going to grill a few ribeyes with an awesome coffee-chili rub,

then we're all going to sit down with baked potatoes and salad and eat them...

Yeah.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2014 10:17 AM (KBvAm)

130 The administration is cutting off our noses to spite our faces for their self-esteem.
Its just a warm up. The muzzies plan on cutting off our heads later.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2014 10:17 AM (t//F+)

131 rickl: "...The specifics may be different for other latitudes. I believe it has something to do with Earth's elliptical orbit."

So complicated! A spherical not ovoid planet following a round not elliptical orbit was one of the French Revolution's loftier goals, as part of metric calendar reform.

(See? This ^ is why I just lurk. Or sleep.)

Syriasly, thanks for the details on sunrise/sunset variance.

Posted by: mindful webworker - solar battered at December 20, 2014 10:20 AM (4RRDi)

132 Nevergiveup: Congrats on the permit. If you haven't already, please please please get some quality training in defensive shooting. I'm talking Gunsite, Thunder Ranch, or the local equivalent. The field is full of poseurs and scam artists; just check their credentials.

Posted by: PabloD at December 20, 2014 10:20 AM (roESk)

133 Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 08:25 AM (9BRsg)

The menorah in that symbol is seven-branched, which is the original one from the Temple that the Maccabees took back from the Greeks in 160 (?) BCE.

The eight-branched menorah that is used for Hanukkah commemorates the miracle that the oil in the Temple menorah burned for eight days, when there was only enough for one day.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2014 10:20 AM (Zu3d9)

134 Orthodox Jews are messianic. I remember my time in NYC and some wore pagers.
"Mossiach pagers" they called them.

Posted by: navybrat at December 20, 2014 10:25 AM (JgC5a)

135 Posted by: PabloD at December 20, 2014 10:20 AM (roESk)

The closest around here is SigSauer Academy in NH. It is well-regarded.

https://www.sigsaueracademy.com/

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2014 10:25 AM (Zu3d9)

136 The menorah in that symbol is seven-branched, which is the original one
from the Temple that the Maccabees took back from the Greeks in 160 (?)
BCE.

The eight-branched menorah that is used for Hanukkah
commemorates the miracle that the oil in the Temple menorah burned for
eight days, when there was only enough for one day.
---

Interesting! Thanks!

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 10:26 AM (9BRsg)

137 I think it's fun that Hanukkah ends on Christmas Eve this year.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 10:27 AM (9BRsg)

138 Posted by: navybrat at December 20, 2014 10:25 AM (JgC5a)

Hmmm.....not sure they were messianic.

Were they wearing big hats and funny looking coats?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2014 10:28 AM (Zu3d9)

139 36
This mystery employee can't spell, doesn't write well, is massively
incompetent, and yet she has continually been promoted to positions of
increased responsibility in the government, despite her record of
demonstrated serial failures and dishonesty in her prior jobs.

I'm guessing she's a minority.

... the consensus is that it must be Jamie Gorelick's sister or something

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 20, 2014 10:30 AM (e8kgV)

140 Well actually....when I say i'm going to burn two
whole sides of beef in a bonfire with various herbs to waft a glorious
meaty sacrificial smoke up to the Winter Gods-

I mean-

I'm going to grill a few ribeyes with an awesome coffee-chili rub,

then we're all going to sit down with baked potatoes and salad and eat them...

Yeah.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2014 10:17 AM (KBvAm)

I would do that, except with ribs of pig, but it's snowing in Raleigh...so I just put a piggy roast in the crock pot with some East Carolina BBQ sauce for about 8 hours instead.

Posted by: Lost Boys at December 20, 2014 10:31 AM (6fyGz)

141 137
I think it's fun that Hanukkah ends on Christmas Eve this year.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 10:27 AM (9BRsg)

I am betting some of the Tribe's kids will be double dipping!

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 20, 2014 10:32 AM (0FSuD)

142 Off, missing sock!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 20, 2014 10:32 AM (6fyGz)

143 I think it's fun that Hanukkah ends on Christmas Eve this year.

Is Kwanzaa the day after Christmas? Just wondering what moved the Douchebag-in-Chief to sign an executive order giving civil servants that day off.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2014 10:32 AM (FcR7P)

144 Posted by: mindful webworker:"...The solstice at last! Sure, the worst of winter is still ahead. No, the dawn doesn't come dramatically sooner, nor the sunset noticeably later, at first. But, just knowing that the cycle has reversed, that the sun is moving north again, is warming, invigorating..."

Don't like winter, don't like Christmas (commercialism, expectations, etc.), don't like Jan. or Feb., but I get mildly excited (i think it moved) when Dec. 21 rolls around. This year I'm poking winter in the eye by going surfing (try at least) in Costa Rica. Boom!

Did I mention I hate winter?

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at December 20, 2014 10:32 AM (xdMK5)

145 Were they wearing big hats and funny looking coats?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2014 10:28 AM (Zu3d9)

And singing "Have A Tequila"

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 20, 2014 10:32 AM (6fyGz)

146 @140

WTF? It's snowing in the Triangle? Cool.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 20, 2014 10:33 AM (0FSuD)

147 And just as in the Dan Fogelberg song, the snow turns into rain...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 20, 2014 10:34 AM (6fyGz)

148 So GGE won't be cruising with the top down today?

http://youtu.be/hEvGKUXW0iI

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 20, 2014 10:34 AM (wfOci)

149 Is Kwanzaa the day after Christmas? Just wondering
what moved the Douchebag-in-Chief to sign an executive order giving
civil servants that day off.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2014 10:32 AM (FcR7P)

It probably saves money not to open on Friday, since most of the employees won't show up anyway.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 20, 2014 10:34 AM (0FSuD)

150 "I am betting some of the Tribe's kids will be double dipping!"

Haha, yep. I have a friend who married a Jewish man and they celebrate both (though more just the tree/santa part of Christmas). That is going to be one spoiled 2 year old.

Posted by: Lauren at December 20, 2014 10:34 AM (MYCIw)

151 WTF? It's snowing in the Triangle? Cool.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 20, 2014 10:33 AM (0FSuD)

It was. http://tinyurl.com/mllj4gv

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 20, 2014 10:34 AM (6fyGz)

152 Getting ready to watch the first bowl game of the season (as far as I know)!

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 10:35 AM (9BRsg)

153 No hats or coats.
But, then, it was August.
60 minutes did a story on them years ago.

Posted by: navybrat at December 20, 2014 10:36 AM (JgC5a)

154 152 Getting ready to watch the first bowl game of the season (as far as I know)!
Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 10:35 AM (9BRsg)

Which one is that, Y-not?

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 20, 2014 10:36 AM (dFi94)

155 Kwanzaa is such a stupid, bullshit, made-up, fake-ass, racist holiday.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 20, 2014 10:36 AM (ZPrif)

156 So GGE won't be cruising with the top down today?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 20, 2014 10:34 AM (wfOci)

Not today.

I was hoping to drive in Christmas Eve with the top down, it should be warm enough (64 degrees) but it's supposed to be raining. Of course by then things will probably change.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 20, 2014 10:37 AM (6fyGz)

157 12 "The greatest gift is knowledge"

Bullshit h8erz. It's control.

Posted by: Your Betters on the Left at December 20, 2014 10:38 AM (UtwNa)

158 I've never met anyone who celebrates Kwanzaa.

Posted by: Lauren at December 20, 2014 10:38 AM (MYCIw)

159 157 12 "The greatest gift is knowledge"

Bullshit h8erz. It's control.

Posted by: Your Betters on the Left at December 20, 2014 10:38 AM (UtwNa)

Wrong on both counts . It's vodka.

Posted by: grammie winger, joy to the world at December 20, 2014 10:39 AM (dFi94)

160 @151

That is fun. My freshman year at State we had an 8 inch snow. All hell/fun broke loose.

State was still all male then. Yes, old IS ugly.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 20, 2014 10:39 AM (0FSuD)

161 >>Which one is that, Y-not?

New Orleans Bowl --- Nevada vs Louisiana-Lafayette

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 10:40 AM (9BRsg)

162 I've always said that Ghandi would have been trampled by these Progressives.

Non-violent action and hypocrisy require the willingness to be shamed,
when appropriate, which these folks are incapable of ever feeling.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 20, 2014 10:40 AM (e8kgV)

163 Let's take random traditions from several black African tribal cultures, that were separate by thousands of miles, spoke different languages, had different religions, never met each other or interacted ... and just smush em all together as a made-up Black People Are Awesome, racist-ass fake holiday.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 20, 2014 10:40 AM (ZPrif)

164 I would do that, except with ribs of pig, but it's snowing in Raleigh...so I just put a piggy roast in the crock pot with some East Carolina BBQ sauce for about 8 hours instead.

Posted by: Lost Boys at December 20, 2014 10:31 AM (6fyGz)

Sounds yummy.

Is East Carolina BBQ sauce the mustard one or the vinegar and peppers one?

Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2014 10:40 AM (KBvAm)

165 Haha, yep. I have a friend who married a Jewish man
and they celebrate both (though more just the tree/santa part of
Christmas). That is going to be one spoiled 2 year old.

Posted by: Lauren at December 20, 2014 10:34 AM (MYCIw)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8LmMtScH3g

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 20, 2014 10:41 AM (6fyGz)

166 ESPN profiling Connor Barwin.
*click*

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 10:41 AM (9BRsg)

167 Kwanzaa is such a stupid, bullshit, made-up, fake-ass, racist holiday.

-
Kwanzaa is Swahili for Butthurt.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 20, 2014 10:41 AM (LImiJ)

168 Posted by: navybrat at December 20, 2014 10:36 AM (JgC5a)

There are Jewish sects that actively work for the coming of the Messiah, and at least one (Lubavitch) that has made their (dead) spiritual leader into a quasi-Messiah.

But standard Orthodox? Interesting. If you have any links......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2014 10:42 AM (Zu3d9)

169 #BREAKING: US sends home four Afghan Guantanamo detainees: Pentagon

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 20, 2014 10:11 AM (ZPrif)

At what point does the commie sod in the White House make public our nuke codes?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 20, 2014 10:42 AM (3UGBQ)

170 "and just smush em all together as a made-up Black People Are Awesome, racist-ass fake holiday."

You forgot the communism. It's mostly just communism.

Posted by: Lauren at December 20, 2014 10:43 AM (MYCIw)

171 Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 20, 2014 10:42 AM (3UGBQ)

That's private....just between him and Putin.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2014 10:43 AM (Zu3d9)

172 Is East Carolina BBQ sauce the mustard one or the vinegar and peppers one?

Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2014 10:40 AM (KBvAm)

Vinegar and peppers, mustard is So. Carolina.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 20, 2014 10:44 AM (6fyGz)

173 At what point does the commie sod in the White House make public our nuke codes?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 20, 2014 10:42 AM (3UGBQ)

Aww!

Who told you our Christmas Surprise?

Posted by: Preezy Cakeboy and Kim Long-Un Together At Last!!! at December 20, 2014 10:45 AM (KBvAm)

174 163
Let's take random traditions from several black African tribal cultures,
that were separate by thousands of miles, spoke different languages,
had different religions, never met each other or interacted ... and just
smush em all together as a made-up Black People Are Awesome, racist-ass
fake holiday.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 20, 2014 10:40 AM (ZPrif)

I love the "Celebration" is suppose to be by slaves in Eastern Africa and they say the chants in Swahili, a language of Western Africa.

Facts? ha ha

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 20, 2014 10:45 AM (0FSuD)

175 "Hey lady, can you hand me that box of Kwanzaa decorations off the top shelf please?"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, at Target at December 20, 2014 10:46 AM (NeFrd)

176
152 Getting ready to watch the first bowl game of the season (as far as I know)!
Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 10:35 AM (9BRsg)

Too bad there wasn't a bowl Pick'em group this year.

Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2014 10:47 AM (zt+N6)

177 I love the "Celebration" is suppose to be by slaves
in Eastern Africa and they say the chants in Swahili, a language of
~~Western Africa~~ West African slave traders.

Facts? ha ha

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 20, 2014 10:45 AM (0FSuD)

Swahili was a language cobbled together so the Arab slave traders could talk to the West Africans who were selling the slaves.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 20, 2014 10:48 AM (6fyGz)

178 I just Binged "messianic judaism" and about a hundred links popped up.
Seems to be a recent phenom.
"Recent" meaning 1960s or so.

Posted by: navybrat at December 20, 2014 10:48 AM (JgC5a)

179 Kwanzaa is the perfect holiday for Obama's imaginary kids by his composite girlfriend.

Posted by: @votermom at December 20, 2014 10:48 AM (cbfNE)

180 Is East Carolina BBQ sauce the mustard one or the vinegar and peppers one?

Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2014 10:40 AM (KBvAm)

Vinegar and peppers, mustard is So. Carolina.
Posted by: GGE
-------------------------------

Thus our reference to such people as 'Philistines'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2014 10:48 AM (vPh3W)

181 169
At what point does the commie sod in the White House make public our nuke codes?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 20, 2014 10:42 AM (3UGBQ)

What makes you think he hasn't?

Posted by: rickl at December 20, 2014 10:49 AM (sdi6R)

182 On Thursday, US Attorney General Eric Holder announced a new
interpretation of the Civil Rights Act meant to prevent employers from
discriminating against people who claim the status of a transgendered
person.

Is Michelle Obama looking for a job?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 20, 2014 10:50 AM (3UGBQ)

183 You forgot the communism. It's mostly just communism.
--
Good point.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 20, 2014 10:51 AM (ZPrif)

184 I just Binged "messianic judaism" and about a hundred links popped up.
Seems to be a recent phenom.
"Recent" meaning 1960s or so.
Posted by: navybrat
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I have a very good friend who is a leader for two Messianic congregations. They seem to be growing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2014 10:51 AM (vPh3W)

185 Psh. BBQ sauce.

Posted by: Texans at December 20, 2014 10:51 AM (MYCIw)

186 I just binged "messianic judaism" and 2,050,000 links popped up.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 20, 2014 10:51 AM (NeFrd)

187
182 On Thursday, US Attorney General Eric Holder announced a new interpretation of the Civil Rights Act meant to prevent employers from discriminating against people who claim the status of a transgendered person.Is Michelle Obama looking for a job?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 20, 2014 10:50 AM (3UGBQ)

Can you discriminate against someone that is known to be mentally unstable? Because that's what transgenders are. Mentally unhinged with a desire to mutilate their bodies.

Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2014 10:51 AM (zt+N6)

188 Posted by: navybrat at December 20, 2014 10:48 AM (JgC5a)

The messianic Jews are those who believe in the divinity of Christ.

Which makes them not Jews.

I thought you were talking about orthodox Jews who are expecting the imminent coming of the Messiah.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2014 10:51 AM (Zu3d9)

189 Iirc, Peter would be a "Messianic Jew". It was Paul who Hellenized the Christians.

Posted by: @votermom at December 20, 2014 10:52 AM (cbfNE)

190 Looks like I willowed. Nood.

Posted by: @votermom at December 20, 2014 10:55 AM (cbfNE)

191 Which makes them not Jews.
--------------------

I think they would be surprised to learn that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2014 10:55 AM (vPh3W)

192 Iirc, Peter would be a "Messianic Jew". It was Paul who Hellenized the Christians.

Posted by: @votermom at December 20, 2014 10:52 AM (cbfNE)

Strangely enough, I hellenized Paul McCartney.

He was stoned at the time.

Posted by: Helen Thomas at December 20, 2014 10:55 AM (KBvAm)

193 Everyone from Seattle to Nome says, "Quit yer pansy weather whining!"

Posted by: Igotnothing at December 20, 2014 10:55 AM (VgwDk)

194 I think they would be surprised to learn that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2014 10:55 AM (vPh3W)

Heh.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2014 10:56 AM (Zu3d9)

195 which is why i decided to back out of the discussion.

LOL

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 10:57 AM (nqBYe)

196 Perhaps they simply appeared similar to Orthodox Jews, black and white clothing, the long and curly locks on the sides, etc.

When I was in NYC I tried to never get too deep in to religious conversations. But I did work with at least one guy whose temple passed out pagers to alert them of the coming of the messiah, which I thought was a unique bent.
The fact that pagers were used should give you an idea of how long ago was this.

Posted by: navybrat at December 20, 2014 10:57 AM (JgC5a)

197 Kwanzaa was invented by a deranged man to counter Christmas because Christmas was the white man's holiday.

The founder had two of his female followers stripped naked and beat for what he thought was betrayal. There was a lot of gunplay between the organizers of Kwanzaa and the Black Panthers over who would control the African Studies Center at UCLA.

Great and lovely holiday. Follow the money.

What is funny to me is that blacks that celebrate Kwanzaa have no ties to Africa other what is told to them. When I worked at a hospital in Southern California, I had nurse friends that worked in Labor and Delivery. They said it was very common for a black woman to name her baby some ridiculous African sounding name and then not know how to spell if for staff to put on the birth certificate. If you're going to name your child Bonquisha Maliquanna Africaaanus you should be able to spell it.

Posted by: Cheri at December 20, 2014 10:57 AM (ZFPMM)

198 that was likely lubavitchers, Shneerson's followers.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 10:59 AM (nqBYe)

199 This mystery employee can't spell, doesn't write well, is massively incompetent,

Blah, blah, blah.

Unless you've got Bill, Hillary and Jamie jugged you're just playing post-season looser bitch-fest. And giving the torture whiners another shot at "The Narrative". Frankly the Press can take a flying fuck along with the Fuckup DC Establishment.

Posted by: DaveA at December 20, 2014 11:00 AM (DL2i+)

200 lol. Not surprised the Black Panthers were involved.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2014 11:00 AM (q4AUu)

201 Can you discriminate against someone that is known
to be mentally unstable? Because that's what transgenders are. Mentally
unhinged with a desire to mutilate their bodies.

Posted by: buzzion

I have a girlfriend whose husband was a LAPD officer. Long story short, she discovered due to his changing body and personality, that he was going through the transition with drugs to go from male to female. She divorced him and tried to shield their 10 year old son from this disaster. He insisted that their son call him "mom". Her ex flew to Thailand and had the whack-off peen surgery and returned even a hotter mess than he was before. Tragically their son died in a car accident at age 19. His "father" came to the funeral dressed in a mini skirt and hooker heels. It was all her family could do to keep from beating the shit out of him in church.

Oh and yes, he received full disability from the LAPD and now lives his messed up life at tax payer's expense.

Posted by: Cheri at December 20, 2014 11:04 AM (ZFPMM)

202 Geez. Poor kid. The more I know about people, the less I like them. What a mess.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2014 11:07 AM (q4AUu)

203 Funny, I just remembered the conversation.
I asked my co worker what he would do if the pager went off. He said "Look busy".

Posted by: navybrat at December 20, 2014 11:12 AM (JgC5a)

204 Infidel - It was an awful time. Their son told all of his friends that his dad had died a hero in the line of duty as a cop because he didn't want anyone to know what his dad had done. He was a very popular, beautiful kid and a star athlete. On one occasion he was playing football for his school and his dad showed up in full hooker costume and makeup. He insisted after the game to go up to his son and introduced himself to his kid's friends as his "other mother". It was humiliating and I had to hold my friend back from killing him right there on the field.

I would have helped her kill him and hide the body, but neither of us wanted to go to prison.

Awful.

Posted by: Cheri at December 20, 2014 11:12 AM (ZFPMM)

205 A local grocery has a Smirnoff Vodka Christmas tree stack.

eg.
http://tinyurl.com/pa6uxp6

Posted by: DaveA at December 20, 2014 11:15 AM (DL2i+)

206 Lye. If you hide it well enough, no one would find out.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2014 11:16 AM (q4AUu)

207 Ahh. The wonderful Texas ... ummm ... pointy green triangular thing with all the round ball thingies hanging on it, all decorated with ... ummm ... advertisements for football, pigs, chickens, fishing, "keeping Austin weird", country music, old forts, and .... whatever.

Yes. Yes indeed. That says Christmas to me!

But of course the "Christmas" tree would have this goofy crap. The instructions to designers was to "create a representation of hat makes each house district special". It's all about me, Me, ME! My stuff, my land, my sports, , my bridge, my lake, my house, my fun, my leisure, my work, mine, Mine, MINE!

Fortunately Texas is shucking that old angel, creche, wise men, angels, donkey, madonna, baby stuff. [That "baby" stuff, what was that all about, anyway? I forget.]

I respect the Satanists in Michigan. They know there is a war between Christ and Satan and they are not afraid to throw down the gauntlet.

But Texas? Ahh, yes. Much sneakier (and more effective!). Take the symbols (trees, balls) and gut them of meaning. Replace them with Mammon worship and self-worship.

A "Christmas Tree" (celebrating Christ), becomes The "Texas Tree" celebrating Texans.

Go look at the ornaments on the Texas Christmas tree link. Scroll through the pictures of the 2014 and look at the "Christmas tree" ornaments for the last five years. Tell me how many have Christmas/nativity images (the colors green and red don't count).

Search the 2014 text for "madonna" [0], "virgin" [0], "mary" [0], "manger" [0], "creche" [0], "baby" [0], "infant" [0], "savior" [0], "wise men" [0], "shepherd" [0], "jesus" [0], "christ" [0] "jesus christ" [1] and "diverse"/"diversity" [8].

Satan does not win the Michigan way by throwing down the gauntlet.

Satan wins the Texas way by telling us how wonderful we are, how many things we have "earned", and how the entire world ought to worship us.

Matthew 4:5-11

Posted by: Jeremiah at December 20, 2014 11:21 AM (IYkG+)

208 Well, off to the grocery store and the Triple Tree for some holiday cheer. Have a good day horde!

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2014 11:22 AM (q4AUu)

209 Greetings:

As to your mention of North Korea, you may find this somewhat interesting but different.

Since the analog to digital TV signal conversion, I've been watching a bit of the [South] Korean Broadcasting System's KBS World TV programming and what has occurred to me this holiday system is that the word "Christmas" seems to bee used more by the South Koreans than by American TV broadcasters.

Think about that a bit if you dare. And, of course, have a Merry Christmas.

Posted by: 11B40 at December 20, 2014 11:28 AM (evgyj)

210 "The messianic Jews are those who believe in the divinity of Christ. Which makes them not Jews."

By that rule, the messianic Jews of Brooklyn who believe that Rabbi Menachem Schneerson was the messiah ("moshiach") are not Jews either. But of course they are!

In the Brother Daniel Affair, the Israeli supreme Court denied Brother Daniel (a Jewish convert to Christianity) citizenship in Israel not because he was not a Jew, but because he (as a Christian) was a danger to the Jewish people.

See: http://www.haaretz.com/life/books/meet-brother-daniel-a-jew-converted-christian-turned-monk-1.379291

Once a Jew, always a Jew. Apostate Jew, perhaps, but still a Jew.

Interestingly the Orthodox Jewish establishment had no problem with Brother Daniel being granted citizenship under the Law of Return. They knew the law and Brother Daniel was a Jew.

It was the assimilated secular Ashkenazi Jewish establishment that feared Brother Daniel and his mere presence in Israel. People of shallow faith are fearful of losing what little remaining connection they have to their people.

Posted by: Abie Gefiltefish at December 20, 2014 11:37 AM (IYkG+)

211 Late to comment but at all the Asian restaurants I go to, Chinese or Korean-run sushi ones, they always say "merry Christmas" to everyone.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2014 11:43 AM (Dw98+)

212 The five-branched menorah was used by Liberace to play piano by.

Posted by: --- at December 20, 2014 11:58 AM (MMC8r)

213 >>Posted by: Jeremiah at December 20, 2014 11:21 AM

Truly your anger and resentment embody the True Spirit of Christmas.

Can't it just be that as a government entity there is nothing wrong with honoring Christmas in a way that is most accessible to the greatest number of Americans, irrespective of their religious beliefs?

I do not need (or want) my state legislators to use my taxpayer funded facilities to make a public statement of their own personal celebration of a religious holiday -- whatever it might be.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2014 12:23 PM (9BRsg)

214 #197 Be fair: they probably couldn't have spelled "Smith" or "Jones" either.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at December 20, 2014 01:27 PM (XO6WW)

215 Well I got an early Christmas and on time Hanukkah present yesterday. My
pistol permits. Now another Moron will be armed and dangerous

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2014 09:12 AM (Zmw74)

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Posted by: richard mcenroe at December 20, 2014 01:30 PM (XO6WW)

216 "121
Obama said that if somebody can "intimidate" a company out of
releasing a satirical movie, "imagine what they start doing when they
see a documentary that they don't like or news reports that they don't
like.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2014 09:03 AM (nqBYe)"

Whatever happened to that documentary the Sinclair stations were going to air that the gummint sat on?

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