BREAKING: FBI Says North Korea Responsible For Sony Hack

"The FBI has determined that the intrusion into SPE’s network consisted of the deployment of destructive malware and the theft of proprietary information as well as employees’ personally identifiable information and confidential communications. The attacks also rendered thousands of SPE’s computers inoperable, forced SPE to take its entire computer network offline, and significantly disrupted the company’s business operations."
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The FBI said the "destructive nature of this attack, coupled with its coercive nature, sets it apart. North Korea’s actions were intended to inflict significant harm on a U.S. business and suppress the right of American citizens to express themselves. Such acts of intimidation fall outside the bounds of acceptable state behavior."

As Ace has pointed out several times, one of Obama's favorite tools for dealing with inconvenient events is to ignore them. If he doesn't talk about them, they didn't happen. Think of our new war in Iraq. We keep sending troops and increasing air attacks on ISIL but he just doesn't say much about it hoping no one notices he's doing it.

Well, the FBI saying North Korea just wiped out the electronic infrastructure of a US based company (Sony's parent company is in Japan but this division is US based) in order to prevent Americans from exercising their constitutional rights, would seem to preclude ignoring it.

Obama is giving his year-end press event this afternoon before heading off on vacation. He's going to have to lay out some sort of response.

Unfortunately, there don't seem to be many good options.

Related, the hackers sent Sony a note promising not to hurt them anymore. Yeah, good luck with that.

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:05 PM

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1 Next time it will be worse.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 19, 2014 12:06 PM (l3vZN)

2 Come on. I'm on vacation!

Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 19, 2014 12:07 PM (Dw98+)

3 I've always been on vacation in Eastasia.

Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 19, 2014 12:08 PM (Dw98+)

4 I say nuke'em. At some point you have to let people know that someone is going to get their eye poked out if they play these games.

Posted by: Better Feared than Loved at December 19, 2014 12:08 PM (nRvEn)

5 I have every confidence that this administration will...

say absolutely nothing about it.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at December 19, 2014 12:08 PM (caUSi)

6 Look, as far as Obama's concerned if this pushes Sharpton through the door at Sony then he and his ilk will consider it a net win.

Obama will stand up in front of the teleprompter and use a few carefully chosen words and then do nothing.

If it were me, I'd call a press conference and have Team America playing on a giant flatscreen in the background.

Posted by: JEM at December 19, 2014 12:09 PM (o+SC1)

7 EMP anything with a transistor in North Korea.
**dusts hands**

Posted by: Mr. Dave at December 19, 2014 12:09 PM (fiVFD)

8 What are the options?

How about taking down their power grid.

Posted by: Feh at December 19, 2014 12:10 PM (Jktcu)

9 "Such acts of intimidation fall outside the bounds of acceptable state behavior."

You don't say.

Posted by: mallfly at December 19, 2014 12:10 PM (bJm7W)

10 I bestride this thread like a colossus. Kneel before me, corgis!

Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 19, 2014 12:11 PM (Dw98+)

11 I have no idea who did this.

Posted by: Josh Earnest, joshing earnestly at December 19, 2014 12:11 PM (/GgDU)

12 Bullshit. The source is farther west.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2014 12:11 PM (wr4LJ)

13 If you took down their power grid would they even notice?

Posted by: Mr. Dave at December 19, 2014 12:11 PM (fiVFD)

14 The FBI said..... "Such acts of intimidation fall outside the bounds of acceptable state behavior."

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There. And that will be the end of it.

Posted by: Obama at December 19, 2014 12:12 PM (NaV4z)

15 12
Bullshit. The source is farther west.

You are now on my list.

Posted by: Ear Leader at December 19, 2014 12:12 PM (XzRw1)

16 "Such acts of intimidation fall outside the bounds of acceptable state behavior."

But we do it anyhow.

Posted by: Chicago Thug Administration at December 19, 2014 12:12 PM (/GgDU)

17 Unfortunately, these days, "the FBI says . . ." = "Jackie from UVA says . . ."

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 19, 2014 12:12 PM (XUKZU)

18 So, it really was the first strike in a cyber-war.

If we just had a real president right now...

*sigh*

Yoda says: "Screwed, we are."

Posted by: Bayou City at December 19, 2014 12:13 PM (AJrbR)

19 Why you break my barrs, Hans Brix?

Posted by: Kim Jong Il at December 19, 2014 12:13 PM (iAUf+)

20 >>> I bestride this thread like a colossus. Kneel before me, corgis!

Word order is wrong. You bestride this thread like a corgi.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at December 19, 2014 12:13 PM (fiVFD)

21 What about our power grid. Sony hack dec 9, London air traffic control loses power dec 12, white house loses power dec 15

Posted by: ThunderB at December 19, 2014 12:13 PM (zOTsN)

22 Serious You Guys: help me think up a really, really harsh hashtag

Posted by: Jen Psaki at December 19, 2014 12:13 PM (2Ayux)

23 So why can't the hackers hack into obamas grades etc.? Now that would be worthwhile...

Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 19, 2014 12:14 PM (Bn6aD)

24 I just want to remind you all that virtually every gas pump in the United States is hooked to the Internet.

Yea, us.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 19, 2014 12:14 PM (659DL)

25 Al Sharpton is now executive producer of Sony....

Fuck I would not be shocked if Giggles ordered NSA to do the hack.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 19, 2014 12:15 PM (/4AZU)

26 Breaking: Obama Administration Decides North Korea Responsible for Sony Hack.

FIFY.

Posted by: shibumi who is exceptionally cynical today at December 19, 2014 12:15 PM (LeFwz)

27 Message received: If you're an American company, better start dumping that Christmas bonus cash into IT security, 'cause you're on your own.

The guy in the White House won't do dick. He'll make noises about 'this isn't how civilized countries behave' or 'unacceptable' or something, go on vacation, and his media Fifth Column will photobomb us the LIVs with Kardashian butt pics until they forget.

Posted by: Secundus at December 19, 2014 12:15 PM (UH0DS)

28 Incoming strongly-worded memo

Posted by: brak at December 19, 2014 12:15 PM (Tj+s6)

29 22
Serious You Guys: help me think up a really, really harsh hashtag

#StopRevealingOurApprovedRacists

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 19, 2014 12:15 PM (XzRw1)

30

What difference, at this point, does it make?1/11!!/1/11/!?/11/?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 19, 2014 12:15 PM (HSmrB)

31 If you are a bright young nork where do you get educated to do such a thing? I think you go to China

Posted by: ThunderB at December 19, 2014 12:15 PM (zOTsN)

32 TFG will just vote "present" again. It's what he does.

Anything that reduces our stature in the world is just fine with him. I expect him to do nothing to defend us or our values.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 19, 2014 12:15 PM (0HooB)

33 You bestride this thread like a corgi.
At least that means I'm gettin' some.

Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 19, 2014 12:16 PM (Dw98+)

34 Just because the FBI says it doesn't make it so. See http://www.wired.com/2014/12/evidence-of-north-korea-hack-is-thin/

Posted by: Rick at December 19, 2014 12:16 PM (VZT8m)

35 Don't worry. President Empty Chair is on the case.

Posted by: Clint Eastwood at December 19, 2014 12:16 PM (iAUf+)

36 When Obama says a thing, or a Federal Agency that Obama controls says a thing, the first question you ask is :

"who benefits?" or "what is the angle?"

Posted by: Veola Grinds at December 19, 2014 12:16 PM (7tgAE)

37 33 You bestride this thread like a corgi.
At least that means I'm gettin' some.
Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 19, 2014 12:16 PM (Dw98+)

Getting some what? Lunch?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2014 12:16 PM (2Ojst)

38 13 Posted by: Mr. Dave at December 19, 2014 12:11 PM (fiVFD)

It's like the Wall Street Journal saying "drop the Interview on Pyongyang"...

uh hello dumbshits these people don't have DVD players and many don't get electricity for more than 4 hours a day....

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 19, 2014 12:16 PM (/4AZU)

39 The Norks are just getting warmed up. After this resounding victory, with no consequences, they will devote their entire power supply (one 3600 watt Chinese knockoff portable generator) to fucking with us.

Posted by: maddogg at December 19, 2014 12:16 PM (xWW96)

40 "Such acts of intimidation fall outside the bounds of acceptable state behavior."

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Head chopping, on the other hand, is just a diverse means of cultural expression.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 19, 2014 12:17 PM (XUKZU)

41 Can't wait to get to Hawaii to order some shrimp.

Now leave me alooooone!!

Posted by: Preezy Choom at December 19, 2014 12:17 PM (FsuaD)

42 #PeopleUnitedExpectingBoldLeadershipfromObama

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 19, 2014 12:18 PM (l3vZN)

43
He'll say it's too early to say much.

Either that or a shoutout to them for pulling it off.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 19, 2014 12:18 PM (1Y+hH)

44 I got this.

Posted by: Dennis Rodman at December 19, 2014 12:18 PM (uSAVP)

45 What role did Beijing play?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 19, 2014 12:18 PM (ZPrif)

46 Unfortunately, there don't seem to be many good options.

There are plenty of options. Just nobody with balls to implement them.

Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2014 12:18 PM (u9gzs)

47 The enemy of my enemy is really the story of Obama.

Posted by: Blame Whom at December 19, 2014 12:18 PM (7wyDO)

48 Serious You Guys: help me think up a really, really harsh hashtag
Posted by: Jen Psaki
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#sorryifweoffendedyou

Posted by: Chicago Thug Administration at December 19, 2014 12:19 PM (/GgDU)

49 EMP anything with a transistor in North Korea.
**dusts hands**

Posted by: Mr. Dave

And the hacking would continue.

Why would that be? Hmmm?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2014 12:19 PM (wr4LJ)

50 I do not believe it. Holder and Obama control the DOJ and the FBI. I seriously doubt NK can do this.

Posted by: Baldy at December 19, 2014 12:19 PM (+35FH)

51 #canweborrowsomeofyourhackers

Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 19, 2014 12:19 PM (Bn6aD)

52 Fuck I would not be shocked if Giggles ordered NSA to do the hack.

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I'm not ruling out collusion from a number of entities, including the WH.

Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2014 12:20 PM (MR0M+)

53 Most of us have seen enough movies (ironically enough) where blackmailers have the blackmailee by the nads. It's understandable that Sony would cave.

Less understandable that ANYONE ELSE would come out with any other response except that North Korea is now threatening to harm and kill Americans. A foreign country. Threatening. To kill Americans.

This isn't funny. It's not about Sony getting hacked. Sony Corporation doesn't matter anymore here.

The United States is being attacked, and we are laying down on our bellies, thrusting our bungholes in the air, and asking for more.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 19, 2014 12:20 PM (Dj0WE)

54 So say nice things Washington press corps or Kim Jung-Un will get you!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 19, 2014 12:20 PM (hLRSq)

55 What would be funny would be an 'open mic' moment:

"The FBI has determined that North Koreans hacked Sony. The bombing begins in 5 minutes."

But we don't have that guy around.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 19, 2014 12:20 PM (1Y+hH)

56
8 What are the options?
Take out Dennis Rodman

Posted by: Terri at December 19, 2014 12:20 PM (bpemY)

57 "By following the rules of the Film Actor's Guild, the world can become a better place; that handles dangerous people with talk, and reasoning; that, is the fag way. One day you'll all look at the world us actors created and say, "wow, good going, fag. You really made the world a better place, didntcha, fag?" " -- Arec Barrwin https://flic.kr/p/pvniAW

Posted by: goozer at December 19, 2014 12:20 PM (gP7MF)

58
So, just to review:

The Norks cost Sony something like a cool billion in lost production costs and box-office revenue. Nothing done.

Some kid in Palmdale torrents a copy of The Amazing Spider-Man 2, he gets the book thrown at him.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 19, 2014 12:21 PM (kdS6q)

59 52 Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2014 12:20 PM (MR0M+)

but but the FBI says this Sven....!

Yeah and the FBI also seems to think the Hammer Party in St Louis wasn't a hate crime...

the FBI is Eric Holder's PR firm.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 19, 2014 12:21 PM (/4AZU)

60 I'm convinced it was an inside job at Sony.

Take *that* FBI.

*walks away smugly*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 19, 2014 12:21 PM (FsuaD)

61 Somewhere, George Soros is laughing his ass off at us.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 19, 2014 12:21 PM (0HooB)

62 If you are intent on destroying the USA, there are many winners from this hack. Sony not being one of them.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 19, 2014 12:21 PM (XzRw1)

63 I don't believe it. China is the one pulling the strings here. This is not a NORK venture.

Posted by: Trunk Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at December 19, 2014 12:21 PM (32Ze2)

64
The problem, as Iowahawk pithily pointed out, is that Obama is fundamentally sympathetic to Kim on this. At least, in Kim's case, the attack on the film maker is in response to a direct insult. Whereas Obama went after a filmmaker for no other reason than to direct attention away from his administration's total incompetence in Libya.
I never thought America could change this much in 10-15 years, but we are a shadow of what we used to be.

Posted by: Sam In VA at December 19, 2014 12:21 PM (Q52VH)

65 He's going to have to lay out some sort of response.

Whatever it is will be underthought, half-assed and / or a bald-faced lie.

What's the over / under on him blaming this on Bush budget cuts or hostage-taking Republicans?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 19, 2014 12:22 PM (zF6Iw)

66 I was trying to make a funny by suggesting that Al would remake a movie with a black villain and turn the villain into the hero. Unfortunately, there are no movies with black villain so I'm not sure there will a lot of change having Kim Jung Al* running things.

*Stolen from Iowhawk.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 19, 2014 12:22 PM (XUKZU)

67 How convenient they find a scapegoat no US President would retaliate against, for fear of NK shelling Seoul.

Posted by: Baldy at December 19, 2014 12:22 PM (+35FH)

68 Whatdya think? Second look at that godawful "Red Dawn" reboot?

Posted by: Sam In VA at December 19, 2014 12:22 PM (Q52VH)

69 8 What are the options?
Take out Dennis Rodman

Posted by: Terri at December 19, 2014 12:20 PM (bpemY)

Hell, Rodman is probably going to be golfing with the JEF. Maybe Raoul Castro will join them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 19, 2014 12:22 PM (FsuaD)

70 I assume this means we will be bombing NK to kingdom-come this afternoon to teach the rest of the world a lesson.

Posted by: dogfish at December 19, 2014 12:22 PM (1vYi0)

71 This Weeks' Scoreboard:

Dictators 2
USA 0

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 19, 2014 12:23 PM (0LHZx)

72 Take out Dennis Rodman
But that might get LeBron jealous.

Hey! Make LeBron jealous. Hmm. That might just work.

Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 19, 2014 12:23 PM (Dw98+)

73 53 Posted by: BurtTC at December 19, 2014 12:20 PM (Dj0WE)

No Sony-America was attacked...the rest is just our rights being trampled by the Infotainment/Political two headed beast that gave us Giggles in the first place...

I detest Rogen, I would not have watched the Interview let to my own devices but in light of this attack I would have at a minimum gone and seen it to make a point.

Horrywood and our own government take great glee in kneeing my identity group in the balls without fear of recirpocity every day but the left can't wait to cave to every shithead tinhorn dictator or Jihadi under the sun.

I am telling you we are watching civil society die.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (/4AZU)

74 So say nice things Washington press corps or Kim Jung-Un will get you!

-
Imagine if Un leaked some of the MSM's embarrassing emails.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (XUKZU)

75 Do you have any idea how fucking busy I am?!

Posted by: Kim Jong Il at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (2Ojst)

76 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 19, 2014 12:23 PM (0LHZx)

Not only that, one of those was by forfeit

Posted by: Secundus at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (UH0DS)

77 I don't believe it. China is the one pulling the strings here. This is not a NORK venture.
Posted by: Trunk Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at December 19, 2014 12:21 PM (32Ze2)

I was wondering how they could pull this off with a slide rule and an abacus.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (1Y+hH)

78 The note from the hackers was hey you better keep doing what we say or your data will get released.

Appeasement never works.

Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (kxSsB)

79 I was waiting for the porn parody anyway.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (nFdGS)

80 uh hello dumbshits these people don't have DVD players and many don't get electricity for more than 4 hours a day....
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 19, 2014 12:16 PM (/4AZU)

___________

That's not entirely true. There are DVD players in NoKo as well as computers. Shit is smuggled in to NoKo from China all the time.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (0LHZx)

81 EMP anything with a transistor in North Korea.
**dusts hands**

They have transistors in NK?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (0HooB)

82 I do not believe it. Holder and Obama control the DOJ and the FBI. I seriously doubt NK can do this.
Posted by: Baldy at December 19, 2014 12:19 PM (+35FH)

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NK can do whatever they want. And, yes, I think that, along with China's help, they could pull it off. Please remember that Dear Leader's main objective of his preezyness is to destroy this country. He'll let whoever wants to have a crack at it.

I also give you Russia, Iran, ISIS, etc.

Anything and everything is on the WH table to weaken this country.

Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2014 12:25 PM (MR0M+)

83 I wish Barry would send Jesse Ventura to N Korea for a sit-down with the little fat f*ck.

And said little fat f*ck decides to keep Jesse.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 19, 2014 12:25 PM (FsuaD)

84 If you are asking Obama to 'do something' in response to this Sony hack, what you might get is another reconciliation deal with N. Korea to finally end the war and normalize relations.

Posted by: Veola Grinds at December 19, 2014 12:25 PM (7tgAE)

85 Appeasement never works.
Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (kxSsB)

_________

It does for the ones demanding appeasement.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 19, 2014 12:25 PM (0LHZx)

86 This action is beyond the pale and no one is angrier than me. I have directed Vice President Joe Biden to head up a task force to make sure that this kind of thing never happens again. My heart goes out to Seth Rogen and the entire cast and crew of this movie.

Posted by: Barrack O at December 19, 2014 12:25 PM (RjkRJ)

87 Can't really call it cyberwarfare if only one side is participating. I'm sure with a little effort, we could do some damage to them with cyber-ops.

Or, we could just tell Obama that the North Koreans are all tea partiers. That ought to motivate him.

Posted by: Heralder at December 19, 2014 12:25 PM (/Mxso)

88 Weekly Podcast
Dec 19, 2014

http://bit.ly/1sPaR1D

Posted by: NSA at December 19, 2014 12:25 PM (7wyDO)

89 Related, the hackers sent Sony a note promising not to hurt them any more. Yeah, good luck with that...

Sony is pretty much screwed... they're going to have to scrub and replace most of the their computer network...

...I don't want to even guess how many back doors into Sony's system got installed during that hack.

And no, the FBI won't find the insider that triggered the event...

...they've long since 'gone east' (if they're smart).

Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 19, 2014 12:25 PM (/mTq0)

90 81 EMP anything with a transistor in North Korea.
**dusts hands**

They have transistors in NK?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (0HooB)

They're probably still using vacuum tubes.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2014 12:25 PM (2Ojst)

91 Some kid in Palmdale torrents a copy of The Amazing Spider-Man 2, he gets the book thrown at him.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 19, 2014 12:21 PM (kdS6q)

It helps if:
(a) You are a sovereign nation.
(b) You are the lapdog of a great regional power.
(c) You are psyscho-crazy.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 19, 2014 12:26 PM (hLRSq)

92 I'm concerned that this may lead to a violent backlash against Hyundai owners.

Posted by: Shepard Smith at December 19, 2014 12:26 PM (Ks4nX)

93 Sony can thank Bill Clinton for bailing the Norks out around 1994 when they were on the verge of complete starvation.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 19, 2014 12:26 PM (y5ygC)

94 How about not giving any more aid packages to North Korea?

Posted by: McAdams at December 19, 2014 12:26 PM (M1fXP)

95 73 -

The reason everyone else caved is NOT because Sony was hacked. It was the threats to blow up theaters.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 19, 2014 12:27 PM (Dj0WE)

96 Can you imagine the hell unleased by Obama if they had hacked a solar array?

Posted by: Meremortal at December 19, 2014 12:27 PM (1Y+hH)

97 You gotta hand it to NorKs. They know how America works. They made sure to embarrass the CEO with the Obama jokes email first, which they knew would weaken her, which would make it easy to control her afterwards.

For a bunch of starving morons without electricity....they got their shit together better than the GOP, on how to play political hardball.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 19, 2014 12:27 PM (0LHZx)

98 8 What are the options?

How about taking down their power grid.

Posted by: Feh at December 19, 2014 12:10 PM (Jktcu)

North Korea has a power grid?

Posted by: rickl at December 19, 2014 12:27 PM (zoehZ)

99 It is kinda funny that Clooney tried to get everybody in Hollywood to sign his petition and nobody would return his calls.

I imagine that every hot young thing he bedded in Hollywood then stopped returning her calls when she turned 30 can empathize with his situation.

Time comes for us all, and Clooney is now entering the "former movie star" phase of his life. The last Ocean's movie was 7 years ago. Gravity was a hit, but he was the supporting actor, not the star.

In a few years he's gonna be fighting for the wise grandpa and elderly wizard roles.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 19, 2014 12:27 PM (ZPrif)

100 Well, if there's one piece of good news coming out of this mess, it's that Al Sharpton is going to be overseeing Sony Pictures now.

Wait...is "overseeing" racist??

*bows head in shame*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 19, 2014 12:27 PM (FsuaD)

101 I was wondering how they could pull this off with a slide rule and an abacus.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (1Y+hH)

It doesn't take much. They are a nuclear power, I'm someone can figure out how to hack something on the internet.

Posted by: Heralder at December 19, 2014 12:27 PM (/Mxso)

102 Can you imagine the hell unleased by Obama if they had hacked a solar array?
Posted by: Meremortal at December 19, 2014 12:27 PM (1Y+hH)

Or his transcripts
Or ESPN
Or whatever power company feeds Martha's Vineyard

Posted by: Secundus at December 19, 2014 12:28 PM (UH0DS)

103
#SollyYouGuys

Posted by: Jen Psaki at December 19, 2014 12:28 PM (2Ayux)

104 80 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (0LHZx)

The electrical grid is what it is, and given the propensity of their society dropping dime on each other I am gonna go out on a limb and bet there are not a lot of home entertainment systems openly about champ...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 19, 2014 12:28 PM (/4AZU)

105 Imagine if Un leaked some of the MSM's embarrassing emails.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 19, 2014 12:24 PM (XUKZU)

Precisely. Do you think only Sony executives have said "indelicate" things about the First Family? I don't.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 19, 2014 12:28 PM (hLRSq)

106 LeBron? I don't know if you're reading this but I think you should know that I was gangbanged by the Raptors starting lineup. My friend Jackie will back me up on this.

Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 19, 2014 12:29 PM (Dw98+)

107 What will we do without the Colbert Report?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 19, 2014 12:29 PM (ZPrif)

108 NoKo doesn't do anything without China's approval and/or help. If teh FBI is sure NoKo is behind it, then it means China is behind it as well, in some capacity.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 19, 2014 12:29 PM (0LHZx)

109 90 They're probably still using vacuum tubes.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2014 12:25 PM (2Ojst)

Russia still makes heavy use of vacuum tubes. So do high end stereo equipment makers.

Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2014 12:29 PM (u9gzs)

110
Axis of Evil:

North Korea
Iran
Barack Obama

Posted by: The Jackhole at December 19, 2014 12:30 PM (6/J77)

111 107 What will we do without the Colbert Report?
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 19, 2014 12:29 PM (ZPrif)

_________

Given the fact I haven't watched more than 30 minutes of the show combined in the past 5 years.....somehow I think my life won't change too much.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 19, 2014 12:30 PM (0LHZx)

112
North Korea has a power grid?
Posted by: rickl at December 19, 2014 12:27 PM (zoehZ)

Behold the brilliant glow of 20 square miles lit by electricity!

Posted by: Meremortal at December 19, 2014 12:30 PM (1Y+hH)

113 "The reason everyone else caved is NOT because Sony was hacked. It was the threats to blow up theaters"

Partially so. The rest was an attempt to show how "fair", "caring", and "loving" our betters are than us nasty teaparty types...

Posted by: anon a mouse at December 19, 2014 12:31 PM (/jpU8)

114 I wonder how well vacuum tubes would stand up to an EMP attack?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 19, 2014 12:31 PM (0HooB)

115 105 Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 19, 2014 12:28 PM (hLRSq)

Operation Pipewrench

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 19, 2014 12:31 PM (/4AZU)

116 #wepreemptivelysurrender

Posted by: shibumi who is exceptionally cynical today at December 19, 2014 12:31 PM (LeFwz)

117 Maybe the hackers could fix healthcare.gov for us.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 19, 2014 12:31 PM (NeFrd)

118 I'm convinced it was an inside job at Sony.

Take *that* FBI.

*walks away smugly*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 19, 2014 12:21 PM (FsuaD)

But, experts!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 19, 2014 12:31 PM (8ZskC)

119 Food for thought: this is more than just SONY vs the Norks.

In the future, you'll not see any negative elements in any Hollyweird film about the PRC.

Otherwise the Nork pit bull will get loose again...

Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 19, 2014 12:32 PM (/mTq0)

120 @95 they don't care about public safety they don't want their emails leaked.

Because they could release the movie to the internet to get rid of the theater threat. But instead they are bottling it up because of the email threat.

Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2014 12:32 PM (kxSsB)

121 95
73 -

The reason everyone else caved is NOT because Sony was hacked. It was the threats to blow up theaters.

You got that right.

Posted by: DHS Busily Forkliftig Ammo Into Warehouses at December 19, 2014 12:32 PM (XzRw1)

122 The Commies liked vacuum tubes because they weren't effected by EMP like solid state and transistors were. They fully expected to get in a nuclear exchange with us and wanted their equipment to work.

That and their technology was about 50 years behind ours.

Posted by: McAdams at December 19, 2014 12:32 PM (M1fXP)

123 Ah, so Comedy Central is doing another Daily Show spinoff to replace Colbert - The Nightly Show.

Get it? After the Daily Show, comes the Nightly Show. Cause it's at night! That's the joke part.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 19, 2014 12:32 PM (ZPrif)

124 For a bunch of starving morons without electricity....they got their shit together better than the GOP, on how to play political hardball.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 19, 2014 12:27 PM (0LHZx)

You want the GOP to do what North Korea did? Hack and release e-mails and conduct blackmail?

"The Nixonizer: Return to Watergate"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 19, 2014 12:32 PM (hLRSq)

125
No group has been more supportive of the JEF, in terms of money and propaganda, than Hollywood. So, of course, he'll sit up and take notice: and tell them stop making movies like "The Interview".

Obama's willingness to throw a filmmaker - and, indeed, the First Amendment - under the bus in reaction to his own screw-ups in Benghazi made it painfully obvious that he is no friend to freedom of speech. If it's a choice between the Bill of Rights and appeasement of tyrants, he'll choose the latter: every fucking time.

Posted by: Brown Line at December 19, 2014 12:32 PM (zcbZo)

126 "Obama is giving his year-end press event this afternoon before heading
off on vacation. He's going to have to lay out some sort of response"

Bwahahahahahaha

Barry, my advice is to go with the usual ignore-it strategery. The supplicant press go along with it, natch.

Posted by: dissent555 at December 19, 2014 12:32 PM (yR6A1)

127 Well that XX Committee site is hardly a persuasive or impressive source for policy advice, based on that linked page. Of course in today's America you can generally say there are no good options for almost any development, but that's not because of the nature of the challenge, but because of the collapse of will and competence and seriousness. NoKo was very much influenced by the (still mysteriously) abandoned Bush II strategy targeting their finances and drug-running (dang, forget the acronym for the whole thing). They were begging and screaming like Navajos (odd old Woody Allen reference).

Of course none of this matters any more. An unserious country with an unserious electorate (obvious before 2008, too) with a dumbed-down "elite" produces the situation we have today.

And unlike the more ambiguous, and complicated, humiliations of the US in recent years (Ukraine, Syria, etc.), this NoKo episode is completely bizarre and involves no traditional geopolitical dynamics or major powers. It is simply the unbelievable histrionic arrogance and truculence of an insane, weak regime.

Therefore the humiliation and disparagement of our status and credibility are substantial.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2014 12:33 PM (afQnV)

128 I'm starting an internet rumour that these attacks were conducted by the North Koreans, with help from Cuban intelligence services.

Posted by: bunnyfluff the destroyer at December 19, 2014 12:33 PM (2uUC7)

129
What are the options?
Posted by: Feh

We play joke. We put pee pee in their Coke.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 19, 2014 12:33 PM (kdS6q)

130 Usually when NK goes batshit they are distracting from something in Iran.

Posted by: blaster at December 19, 2014 12:33 PM (kxSsB)

131
Russia still makes heavy use of vacuum tubes. So do high end stereo equipment makers.

Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2014 12:29 PM (u9gzs)

I think guitar amps are a major eater of vacuum tubes these days.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 19, 2014 12:34 PM (FMbng)

132 Pakistan.
Yes. Pakistan.

Posted by: General McInerney at December 19, 2014 12:34 PM (ZPrif)

133 Why don't we remove restrictions on oil drilling and fracking and bring oil down to 5 bucks a barrel and watch as their countries collapse?

Posted by: Jim at December 19, 2014 12:34 PM (jzBaI)

134 Obviously the only solution is to normalize relations with North Korea, since what we're doing hasn't worked for the last 60 years.

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2014 12:35 PM (MMC8r)

135 Maybe the hackers could fix healthcare.gov for us.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 19, 2014 12:31 PM (NeFrd)

Maybe not. Policies offered by FatBoyCare.com don't include hospital meals. Also, the end-stage hospice program involves hungry dogs and mortar explosions.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 19, 2014 12:36 PM (8ZskC)

136 My brother had gender identity issues, now I have a transistor.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 19, 2014 12:36 PM (NeFrd)

137 120 -

Right. That's Sony's excuse.

What's Paramount's?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 19, 2014 12:36 PM (Dj0WE)

138 99

In a few years [Clooney]'s gonna be fighting for the wise grandpa and elderly wizard roles.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 19, 2014 12:27 PM (ZPrif)

Nah, I figure he'll be running for some political office.

Posted by: Big McLargehuge at December 19, 2014 12:36 PM (u9OP6)

139 You want the GOP to do what North Korea did? Hack and release e-mails and conduct blackmail?

"The Nixonizer: Return to Watergate"
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 19, 2014 12:32 PM (hLRSq)

___________

Way to miss my point, which is...

The NorKs know how to play the game. They didn't just come out and demand the movie cancellation. They laid the ground work. They played the long game.

Something the GOP never does.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 19, 2014 12:36 PM (0LHZx)

140 North Korea has a power grid?

North Korea has a power gr.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 19, 2014 12:37 PM (659DL)

141 Barry, my advice is to go with the usual ignore-it strategery. The supplicant press go along with it, natch.

Watch TFG refer any and all questions to either Sony or the FCC.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 19, 2014 12:37 PM (0HooB)

142 Odds of his only statement being "I cannot comment on an ongoing investigation"?

Posted by: Chupacabras at December 19, 2014 12:38 PM (CGjum)

143 I didn't know anything about this until I read about it this morning in the newspaper.

Posted by: Barky I Numbnuts at December 19, 2014 12:38 PM (8ZskC)

144 Lord, this is a depressing thread. Think I'll bow out till Monday.

Hope you all have a wonderful weekend.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 19, 2014 12:38 PM (zF6Iw)

145 Maybe not. Policies offered by FatBoyCare.com don't include hospital meals. Also, the end-stage hospice program involves hungry dogs and mortar explosions.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 19, 2014 12:36 PM (8ZskC)

****

Admittedly, by "fix" healthcare.gov I was sort of thinking "demolish".

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 19, 2014 12:38 PM (NeFrd)

146 Will somebody finally let President Barack Obama be clear?

Posted by: Fritz at December 19, 2014 12:38 PM (UzPAd)

147 The hackers have also demanded a theatrical release for "The Day The Clown Cried."

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2014 12:39 PM (MMC8r)

148 In ref to the new sidebar - I suggest that it is never "reasonable" to expect criminal acts. Never.
Any legal opinion that holds such is based on assumptions that we are not members of American Society and disqualifies the judge from holding American citizenship.

Crime is always and only abberant and evil behavior. It is never reasonable to "expect it".

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at December 19, 2014 12:39 PM (scgac)

149 What this country needs is a good recreational drug that would calm everyone down and mellow everyone out.

There is no reason for all the sturm und drang.

Posted by: Labrada Tostitos at December 19, 2014 12:39 PM (7tgAE)

150 Spot on Kapitan Charles, Moo Moo, et al - NoKo doesn't do much without PRC say-so (though there is some slack in the leash on certain matters, sort of like Hezbollah and the IGRC leadership). So proxy Chinese bullying of the US, in effect. Even if not, doesn't really matter - hit to our credibility is the same.

I'd say it's amazing how blase most will be about all this. But I've found that phrases like "it's amazing" have completely lost their impact and even meaning in the last few years.

And I'm not talking about the country's ridiculous "leadership". I'm talking about the country. Our current govt. (including the pathetic GOP) is very much "representative" in nature.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2014 12:39 PM (afQnV)

151 I read a piece about presidential perks, and the one thing every. single. president. misses the most is Air Force One.

They're probably going to have to pry Barry's skinny fingers off the door.

And then fumigate it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 19, 2014 12:39 PM (FsuaD)

152 I never imagined the US surrendering without even one casualty.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2014 12:39 PM (eGmvn)

153 Obviously the only solution is to normalize relations with North Korea, since what we're doing hasn't worked for the last 60 years.
Posted by: --- at December 19, 2014 12:35 PM (MMC8r)

Talk about out of the frying pan, into the fire. A lot of the Nork populace is institutionalized, stunted, and so malnourished it's literally affecting their mental capacity.

Opening borders with them would over load basically every aid organization on the planet and rip a giant hole in the RoK economy.

Posted by: Secundus at December 19, 2014 12:39 PM (UH0DS)

154 Now you see, the changing of the worrd is inevitabre!

Posted by: Anon. Dictator at December 19, 2014 12:39 PM (vgIRn)

155 Think I'll bow out till Monday.
That's what I said in Saudi Arabia!

Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 19, 2014 12:39 PM (Dw98+)

156 Name somebody with more power than me?

I'm runnin' the White House and New York. I'm running violent protests from Oakland to St. Louis to Brooklyn.

I got the DC and NYC and now I get me a Sony.

Resist we much? Resist my ass!

King of the World, bitchez!

Posted by: Al Sharpton at December 19, 2014 12:40 PM (ZPrif)

157 "In the future, you'll not see any negative elements in any Hollyweird film about the PRC."

Just those reichtwinger types.

And southerners.

Pretty much it.

Posted by: anon a mouse at December 19, 2014 12:40 PM (/jpU8)

158 Way to miss my point, which is... The NorKs know how to play the game. They didn't just come out and demand the movie cancellation. They laid the ground work. They played the long game. Something the GOP never does.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 19, 2014 12:36 PM (0LHZx)

Its hilarious how you spew so much shit that you are clueless on. The NorKs were demanding the movie's cancellation before it was made. They were making threats back in June if it was released.

Posted by: buzzion at December 19, 2014 12:40 PM (zt+N6)

159
Lord, this is a depressing thread.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

We just lost Cyber War 1.0.

No kissing a nurse in Times Square for us.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 19, 2014 12:41 PM (kdS6q)

160 What this country needs is a good recreational drug that would calm everyone down and mellow everyone out.

Soma?

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2014 12:41 PM (MMC8r)

161 Something the GOP never does.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 19, 2014 12:36 PM (0LHZx)

Despite all of the metaphors, politics in the USA is still not warfare and pray it never goes that way. And there is a lot of difference between a state actor and domestic polticial party.

Not every event can be twisted into commentary on what your particular thing is and if you do that then you fall into the definition of a fanatic.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 19, 2014 12:41 PM (hLRSq)

162 And then fumigate it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 19, 2014 12:39 PM (FsuaD)

Said it before, saying it again: If the next President is a Pubbie, they should bring cameras into the WH when they take over. I've got ten bucks says there'll be furniture missing, holes kicked in the walls and sheets flushed down the toilets.

Posted by: Secundus at December 19, 2014 12:41 PM (UH0DS)

163 It is my opinion that WWI was caused by the fact that the German Kaiser, the Russian Czar, and the Austrian Emperor were all three blithering buffoons. As to Obama and Kim Jung Un . . .

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 19, 2014 12:42 PM (XUKZU)

164

Opening borders with them would over load basically every aid organization on the planet and rip a giant hole in the RoK economy.

Posted by: Secundus at December 19, 2014 12:39 PM (UH0DS)

I was using the logic that certain people are using with Cuba.

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2014 12:42 PM (MMC8r)

165 I was using the logic that certain people are using with Cuba.
Posted by: --- at December 19, 2014 12:42 PM (MMC8r)

I know. Just exploring a what-if.

Posted by: Secundus at December 19, 2014 12:42 PM (UH0DS)

166 I was thought raped by a navy cop when North Korea kicked our asses in the First Cyber War.

Posted by: 2014 times square nurse at December 19, 2014 12:43 PM (Dw98+)

167 Arf.

Posted by: Evelyn, A Modified Dog at December 19, 2014 12:43 PM (sH832)

168
Serious question.

What has Japan had to say about all this?

Posted by: Kudzu King at December 19, 2014 12:43 PM (HSmrB)

169 We just lost Cyber War 1.0.

No kissing a nurse in Times Square for us.

So no internet pr0n fapping?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2014 12:43 PM (YWEKY)

170 Step over onto the "X" maawk Misteh smawty-pants Ace Of Spades. We have a special place fo people like you and Hans Blix.

Posted by: Zombie Kim Jung Il at December 19, 2014 12:43 PM (6um35)

171
I know. Just exploring a what-if.

Yes, it would be a nightmare on culture shock alone.

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2014 12:43 PM (MMC8r)

172 They were making threats back in June if it was released.
Posted by: buzzion at December 19, 2014 12:40 PM (zt+N6)

Back then Rogen had tweeted how this was the first time anyone had threatened him with death before they spent twelve books to see his movie.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 19, 2014 12:44 PM (hLRSq)

173 If we had sent that letter, none of this would be happening right now.

Posted by: Hans Blix at December 19, 2014 12:44 PM (sH832)

174 Name somebody with more power than me?

I'm runnin' the White House and New York. I'm running violent protests from Oakland to St. Louis to Brooklyn.

I got the DC and NYC and now I get me a Sony.

Resist we much? Resist my ass!

King of the World, bitchez!

Posted by: Al Sharpton

I don't pay my taxes.

I tell any lie I want and the press goes along.

I commit any crime I want and it's all good.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 19, 2014 12:44 PM (XUKZU)

175 Its hilarious how you spew so much shit that you are clueless on. The NorKs were demanding the movie's cancellation before it was made. They were making threats back in June if it was released.
Posted by: buzzion at December 19, 2014 12:40 PM (zt+N6)

________

And back in June nobody gave a shit what they were demanding. Fast forward 6 moths and here we are....ie, the long game, laying the ground work.

Come on man, do try and keep up.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 19, 2014 12:44 PM (0LHZx)

176 If we had a real president, we'd all be waiting for the next shoe to drop. Unfortunately we don't so we'll just keep Christmas shopping and trying to get laid at the office Christmas party--assuming they're still legal....

Posted by: JoeF. at December 19, 2014 12:44 PM (Q9xIX)

177 No kissing a nurse in Times Square for us.

Nope. The best we can hope for is cybersex with some binary bimbette dressed up as a nurse.

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 19, 2014 12:44 PM (0HooB)

178 150 -

Yep. It makes no sense to point fingers at Washington. They represent us.

I read a review of the new Hobbit movie yesterday, the thing was critical of Jackson for making a movie that reflects a bygone era. Namely, one in which "good guys" go to war to defend against the onslaught of evil.

I forget exactly what the reviewer suggested we needed instead, probably movies where attacks are met with reflections on why they hate us so much, or some other such nonsense.

Point being, yeah. We're not that country anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 19, 2014 12:44 PM (Dj0WE)

179 Ha! Ha!
I gotta new best friend foever!

Posted by: kim jong un at December 19, 2014 12:45 PM (Dw98+)

180 All this fuss over a movie company? Didn't hear this much of a hussy fit when the white house was hacked and one network shutdown for 2 weeks, or when the Navy was hacked about 1.5 yrs go.

Posted by: wrg500 at December 19, 2014 12:45 PM (ylwh2)

181 Serious question.
What has Japan had to say about all this?
Posted by: Kudzu King at December 19, 2014 12:43 PM (HSmrB)

My guess:

"We're within missile range, have no nukes, an aging populace and a teetering economy. Good luck with that."

Posted by: Secundus at December 19, 2014 12:45 PM (UH0DS)

182 Japan's got to be pretty pissed too. They don't like North Koreans either. In fact they sneer at all Koreans.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 19, 2014 12:46 PM (Q9xIX)

183 "46
Unfortunately, there don't seem to be many good options.

There are plenty of options. Just nobody with balls to implement them.

Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2014 12:18 PM (u9gzs)"
Uptwinkles.

Here's a couple. Have some of our submarines sink some of their ships and deny doing it. Ditto shooting down some of their airplanes.

The North Koreans have embassies in 47 countries. They tend to do things like sell drugs and counterfeit US money from these embassies. It should not be an insurmountable problem to find people willing to hijack these drugs and counterfeit dollars and kill the couriers if they are provided with good intelligence on the movements of the couriers as well as other information that US intelligence services could easily provide.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 19, 2014 12:46 PM (PD6iL)

184 Don't worry. The govt will fix this by locking down the internet.

Posted by: Mr. Practical at December 19, 2014 12:46 PM (6nt51)

185 I forget exactly what the reviewer suggested we needed instead, probably movies where attacks are met with reflections on why they hate us so much, or some other such nonsense.

I know, right?

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at December 19, 2014 12:46 PM (8ZskC)

186 "Well, the FBI saying North Korea just wiped out the electronic infrastructure of a US based company (Sony's parent company is in Japan but this division is US based) in order to prevent Americans from exercising their constitutional rights, would seem to preclude ignoring it."

Boy, aren't you hopeful!

There's nothing that can't be ignored with this asswipe.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 19, 2014 12:46 PM (oFCZn)

187 What this country needs is a good recreational drug that would calm everyone down and mellow everyone out.

There is no reason for all the sturm und drang.

Posted by: Labrada Tostitos at December 19, 2014 12:39 PM (7tgAE)

It is called "chocolate". tinyurl.com/oeqtljy

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 19, 2014 12:47 PM (9LuAk)

188 People keep claiming the Norks don't have the capabilities, technical or otherwise, to pull this off. That is simply not true. North Korea has a savage social order, dog eat dog in the truest sense, and those at the top, the technocratic elite, are the ones who--against unimaginable hurdles--gave that country nuclear capability.

Imagine you're a bright,math-minded North Korean kid. Imagine how motivated you would be to move out of the lower circle of hell you're living in and climb to another, higher, lesser hell--one with Internet access, maybe. And real food.

So hack Sony you say? And if I fail I die? On it, boss.

Posted by: troyriser at December 19, 2014 12:47 PM (CAJL/)

189 Japan's got to be pretty pissed too. They don't like North Koreans either. In fact they sneer at all Koreans.

Never bring a sneer to a nuke fight.

-- Sun Tzu

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 19, 2014 12:48 PM (8ZskC)

190
Serious question.

What has Japan had to say about all this?

I've been wondering that, too. Sony isn't a US company. I'm not sure why the reaction is viewed as a purely American one.

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2014 12:48 PM (MMC8r)

191 157 -

What's funny is, I figured many villains would be evil military types who are secretly gay, but obviously that's not going to be possible anymore either.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 19, 2014 12:48 PM (Dj0WE)

192 Just nuke the damn place.

They are practically begging for it.

Posted by: eman at December 19, 2014 12:48 PM (WnzAh)

193 191 -

Which is to say, look for more heroes in movies to be military guys/athletes/otherwise heroic types... who are secretly gay.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 19, 2014 12:49 PM (Dj0WE)

194 they spent twelve books to see his movie.
Shit, man. Don't you have anything smaller than War and Peace? I just started.

Posted by: new york hot dog street vendor at December 19, 2014 12:49 PM (Dw98+)

195 So hack Sony you say? And if I fail I die? On it, boss.
Posted by: troyriser at December 19, 2014 12:47 PM (CAJL/)

Good point. I just recently finished a book that dealt with the Soviet A-bomb program. The Russian scientists were *VERY* careful when they built that first bomb-- because they were well aware that if it didn't work, Beria would have them all lined up and shot.

Posted by: Secundus at December 19, 2014 12:49 PM (UH0DS)

196 I've been wondering that, too. Sony isn't a US company. I'm not sure why the reaction is viewed as a purely American one.
Posted by: --- at December 19, 2014 12:48 PM (MMC8r

Well the threats have pretty much been to the American people and assets haven't they?

Posted by: buzzion at December 19, 2014 12:49 PM (zt+N6)

197 "We're within missile range, have no nukes ~~as far as you know~~, an aging populace and a teetering economy. Good luck with that."

Posted by: Secundus at December 19, 2014 12:45 PM (UH0DS)

I doubt that the Japanese have any nukes laying around, but I suspect that they have the wherewithal to gin some up PDQ if they decide to. I wouldn't be surprised to find that various key components are kept in various places, ready to be assembled, against just such a contingency (e.g., NoRKs threaten, America has a pussy Red President who hangs them out to dry. I know - what an imagination I've got).

Why do I think that? Because that's what I would do.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 19, 2014 12:49 PM (oKE6c)

198 What this country needs is a good recreational drug that would calm everyone down and mellow everyone out.
There is no reason for all the sturm und drang.
Posted by: Labrada Tostitos

It is called "chocolate". tinyurl.com/oeqtljy
Posted by: Kinley Ardal

It's called 18 yr old single malt scotch.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2014 12:50 PM (YWEKY)

199 No group has been more supportive of the JEF, in terms of money and propaganda, than Hollywood. So, of course, he'll sit up and take notice: and tell them stop making movies like "The Interview".

Obama's willingness to throw a filmmaker - and, indeed, the First Amendment - under the bus in reaction to his own screw-ups in Benghazi made it painfully obvious that he is no friend to freedom of speech. If it's a choice between the Bill of Rights and appeasement of tyrants, he'll choose the latter: every fucking time.

-
The winner and still champeen shit Midas, Barack Obama!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 19, 2014 12:50 PM (XUKZU)

200 HOA Nazi karma.

http://tinyurl.com/o6bj2sc

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 19, 2014 12:50 PM (XzRw1)

201 TEFFGIACOMT. And as you see, the Deep State loves them some zero-day exploits and lots of backdoors so they can get in and watch everybody, which of course means so can everyone else. No real fences, no virtual fences either. If you don't defend your country against invaders, and punish the invaderswho make it in, you loseyour country.
And you guys keep thinking oh no, there's lots and lots of good patrioticpeople in the FG. Yeah right, just like there's lots and lots of good ummah.

Posted by: John A. Fleming at December 19, 2014 12:50 PM (y53d1)

202 Yeah, I imagine this is all playing out different in Asian politics.

It's not about some American movie -- it's about North Korea (with Chicom help) kicking some Japanese ass.

How will America respond? I want to know how Japan will respond.

It's an American division of a Japanese company.
There are few more famous Japanese companies than Sony.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 19, 2014 12:51 PM (ZPrif)

203 Don't worry. The govt will fix this by locking down the internet.

Sadly, you know this is the exact response if any from the WH.

"If we controlled it, none of this would be happening. It's the best thing for you tiny folks that we take this big ol' complicated internet thing away from you before you hurt yourselves."

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 19, 2014 12:51 PM (sH832)

204 Here is the NK mission to the UN. It is the representative of the NK government in the USA (and Canada, which also has no direct diplomatic relations).

820 Second Avenue, 13th Floor
New York, NY 10017
(212) 972.3105

Posted by: zerk at December 19, 2014 12:51 PM (dFBkj)

205 Also, if we take some sort of action against the Norks, China won't be pleased. And let's face it, it's only when they finally have enough of that fat fuck, that something will be done about it....
We should think outside the box and the next time China wants some sort of deal with us, we'll make it contingent on them getting rid of bad haircut boy....

Posted by: JoeF. at December 19, 2014 12:51 PM (Q9xIX)

206 The Japanese are busy watching weird cartoons.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 19, 2014 12:51 PM (W5DcG)

207 and not a fucking word from the lazy GOP.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 19, 2014 12:51 PM (XzRw1)

208 192
Just nuke the damn place.

They are practically begging for it.

Posted by: eman at December 19, 2014 12:48 PM (WnzAh)

South Korea would be really happy to have us lob a nuke right next to them, so would China, I'm sure.

I know yours is a tongue-in-cheek remark, but hacking Sony is not a nuclear offense.

Posted by: Heralder at December 19, 2014 12:51 PM (/Mxso)

209 Why do I think that? Because that's what I would do.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 19, 2014 12:49 PM (oKE6c)

Good point. They have nuclear power plants, after all.

Posted by: Secundus at December 19, 2014 12:51 PM (UH0DS)

210 It's clear the Norks don't like Betamax.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 19, 2014 12:52 PM (0HooB)

211
Have some of our submarines sink some of their ships and deny doing it. Ditto shooting down some of their airplanes.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole

Killing a few hundred Norks draftees for a computer hack against a media corporation?

Seems a tad disproportionate, don't you think?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 19, 2014 12:52 PM (kdS6q)

212 "they spent twelve books to see his movie."

And I actually proofed that comment first. Oh well.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 19, 2014 12:53 PM (hLRSq)

213
Nood...

Posted by: Kudzu King at December 19, 2014 12:53 PM (HSmrB)

214 Well the threats have pretty much been to the American people and assets haven't they?

Were they? Wouldn't the premiere be worldwide? It'd be easier to commit an act against theaters anywhere in the world rather than just here...

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2014 12:53 PM (MMC8r)

215 In this new interconnected networked world democracy cannot function unless the govt knows everything about every citizen. If you love your democracy you understand why it must be this way. To do otherwise is to give up on freedom.

Fucking Orwell doesn't have shit on us.

Posted by: Mr. Practical at December 19, 2014 12:53 PM (6nt51)

216
and not a fucking word from the lazy GOP.
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility

In support of our brave South Korean allies in these troubled times, I have switched to drinking Soju.

Posted by: John "Breathalyzer" Boehner

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 19, 2014 12:55 PM (kdS6q)

217 It's called 18 yr old single malt scotch.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2014 12:50 PM (YWEKY)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2014 12:56 PM (2Ojst)

218 Here is the NK mission to the UN. It is the representative of the NK government in the USA (and Canada, which also has no direct diplomatic relations).

820 Second Avenue, 13th Floor
New York, NY 10017
(212) 972.3105

For compraints about hero sociarist nation cyber-attack on counter-revolutionary bandits in Engrish, press one.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 19, 2014 12:56 PM (8ZskC)

219 So, now that the Sony story has about run it's course, what's the next strike against America Ogumbe will orchestrate? I figure Cuba will take some time to percolate, so what's next. And we know there's a "next".

Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2014 12:56 PM (MR0M+)

220 "Killing a few hundred Norks draftees for a computer hack against a media corporation?
Seems a tad disproportionate, don't you think?"

It'd be killing the Norks in response to threatening to kill Americans.

Maybe still disproportionate, but it's the death threat, not the hack, that is the issue.

Posted by: zerk at December 19, 2014 12:56 PM (dFBkj)

221 I have every confidence that this administration will...

say absolutely nothing about it.

Barry will probably ask for increased aid to NK.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 19, 2014 12:57 PM (rwI+c)

222 One obvious thing we should be doing in response to this spike in hacking is hardening our computer systems against attack. Individuals, companies and govt have to start taking IT security a lot more seriously than they have been. We need more training for end users, more R&D to improve insecure internet protocols and O/Ss, and we need to quickly take all the damn SCADA controllers off the internet and put them on private networks. It's scandalous that govt and managers allow control interfaces for important infrastructure and industrial processes to be connected to the public internet. That's just asking for disaster.

Posted by: gp at December 19, 2014 12:58 PM (mk9aG)

223 GOP: Partners of the Democratic Party at Home and Abroad!

Posted by: shibumi who is exceptionally cynical today at December 19, 2014 12:59 PM (LeFwz)

224 "Killing a few hundred Norks draftees for a computer hack against a media corporation?

Seems a tad disproportionate, don't you think?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 19, 2014 12:52 PM (kdS6q)"

Not really. It takes quite a bit to get the attention of the people who run that place. Those people will probably be more upset about the lost equipment than the lost lives. Besides. Consider it payback with interest for all the other squirrely shit the Norks have been doing for decades.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 19, 2014 01:01 PM (PD6iL)

225 219
So, now that the Sony story has about run it's course, what's the next
strike against America Ogumbe will orchestrate? I figure Cuba will take
some time to percolate, so what's next. And we know there's a "next".

Skries the rimit now pie face.

Posted by: KJI at December 19, 2014 01:01 PM (XzRw1)

226 159
We just lost Cyber War 1.0.

No kissing a nurse in Times Square for us.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 19, 2014 12:41 PM (kdS6q)

Eh, she probably has Ebola anyway.

Posted by: rickl at December 19, 2014 01:01 PM (zoehZ)

227 HOA Nazi karma.

http://tinyurl.com/o6bj2sc

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 19, 2014 12:50 PM (XzRw1)Looks to me like a mean old asshole who deserves to be beaten with a lead pipe.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 19, 2014 01:05 PM (OiH3z)

228 "168

Serious question.

What has Japan had to say about all this?

Posted by: Kudzu King at December 19, 2014 12:43 PM (HSmrB)"

http://youtu.be/ZjAXJaFydwM

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 19, 2014 01:06 PM (PD6iL)

229 Dear North Korea,

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Signed,

Not On The Front Page Anymore

Posted by: Bill Cosby at December 19, 2014 01:06 PM (C4vSu)

230 Mrs Elizabeth Smith keeps sending me classified documents for safe keeping. Should I be worried?

Posted by: Labrada Tostitos at December 19, 2014 01:06 PM (7tgAE)

231 "We just lost Cyber War 1.0."

Folks, you are missing the point here. The hack is not the point.

Imagine, NO HACK. But then the Guardians of Peace show up online saying "Hey, there, people, if you show this movie we will blow up some theaters." And then, instead of demonstrating that they can break into computers, they blow up some bombs in empty places. That would be a more relevant demonstration of capabilities anyway.

OK, wouldn't the response be exactly the same? Theaters bailing out, Sony withdrawing, Paramount pissing its pants over Team America. No difference.

It's the bombing threat. The hack was not the issue - it was just a way to embarrass and isolate Sony politically, and a only-vaguely-relevant demonstration of capability. Death threats with any other demonstration would have had the same result. Right?

Posted by: zerk at December 19, 2014 01:10 PM (dFBkj)

232 "Obama is giving his year-end press event this afternoon before heading
off on vacation. He's going to have to lay out some sort of response."

Um, "No one suppresses the free speech of Americans except the progressives!"

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at December 19, 2014 01:26 PM (R+h7Q)

233 Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2014 12:25 PM (MR0M+) -- Then it is China's fault. I still don't believe it, if it is true the original hack emails said nothing about the movie or NK, then this could all be a smokescreen.

Posted by: Baldy at December 19, 2014 01:49 PM (+35FH)

234 EMP anything with a transistor in North Korea.

**dusts hands**

They have transistors in NK?

I thought they'd already eaten most of the dust.

Posted by: DaveA at December 19, 2014 02:24 PM (DL2i+)

235 Never forget that the Obama Administration condoned this sort of response when he lied and blamed the Benghazi attacks on an obscurevideo made about Mohammad.
The producer of that video is still in jail.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 19, 2014 02:46 PM (iAUf+)

236 What I do not understand here is if they have citizens who are so damned smart that they can pull this off, why are they all starving??

Is it more about Sony having pathetic, easy-to-hack security?

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Posted by: Linda at December 19, 2014 03:45 PM (sh8b/)

238 Yeah, but instead of defending a private company that was just attacked by NK (cyber-attacks are considered an "act of war" according to the Pentagon), Obama says "Sony acted stupidly". POTUS/Congress should've counter-threatened NK days ago and had Sony's back. Sony had no other choice than to pull. Ticket sales to ALL movies would've suffered due to safety/fear AND NK just jolly well might've blown a theatre up. They are cray-cray like that.

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