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How Progressivism Is Killing the Social Sciences
The parasite kills its host. Every time.
I have had the following experience more than once: I am speaking with a professional academic who is a liberal. The subject of the underrepresentation of conservatives in academia comes up. My interlocutor admits that this is indeed a reality, but says the reason why conservatives are underrepresented in academia is because they don't want to be there, or they're just not smart enough to cut it. I say: "That's interesting. For which other underrepresented groups do you think that's true?" An uncomfortable silence follows. I point this out not to score culture-war points, but because it's actually a serious problem... That's why I was very gratified to read this very enlightening draft paper written by a number of social psychologists on precisely this topic, attacking the lack of political diversity in their profession and calling for reform.... They start by debunking published (and often well-publicized) social psychology findings that seem to suggest moral or intellectual superiority on the part of liberals over conservatives, which smartly serves to debunk both the notion that social psychology is bereft of conservatives because they're not smart enough to cut it, and that groupthink doesn't produce shoddy science. For example, a study that sought to show that conservatives reach their beliefs only through denying reality achieved that result by describing ideological liberal beliefs as "reality," surveying people on whether they agreed with them, and then concluding that those who disagree with them are in denial of reality -- and lo, people in that group are much more likely to be conservative! This has nothing to do with science, and yet in a field with such groupthink, it can get published in peer-reviewed journals and passed off as "science," complete with a Vox stenographic exercise at the end of the rainbow. A field where this is possible is in dire straits indeed.That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. "Science." More "Science:" Hate is bad, but you can hate Republicans, because Science shows us that they are bad. As I've said before, what really bothers me is their combination of asserted superiority and actual childishness.
A University of Michigan department chairwoman has published an article titled, "It's Okay To Hate Republicans," which will probably make all of her conservative students feel really comfortable and totally certain that they’re being graded fairly. "I hate Republicans," communications department chairwoman and professor Susan J. Douglas boldly declares in the opening of the piece.Communications department.
... She writes that although the fact that her "tendency is to blame the Republicans . . . may seem biased," historical and psychological research back her up, and so it’s basically actually a fact that Republicans are bad! ... Republicans now, she writes, are focused on the "determined vilification" of others, and have "crafted a political identity that rests on a complete repudiation of the idea that the opposing party and its followers have any legitimacy at all." (Apparently, the irony of this accusation given the content of her own article was lost on her.)I swear, a lot of Progressives are borderline stupid, but want to be smaaahhht, so they select a political philosophy that promises them they'll be smaahhhht if they just say the right things, no matter what their so-called "IQ tests" may say about it.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 11:55 AM (L2xDv)
Posted by: Chicago Vota at December 18, 2014 11:57 AM (N4yjS)
Posted by: maddogg at December 18, 2014 11:58 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 18, 2014 11:58 AM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at December 18, 2014 11:58 AM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: Joey Biden at December 18, 2014 11:59 AM (+rx1r)
Posted by: chiefjaybob at December 18, 2014 11:59 AM (+rx1r)
Posted by: chiefjaybob at December 18, 2014 11:59 AM (+rx1r)
Oh, come into academia. We have all varieties of stupid. It's chock full o' stupid. Stupid in bulk. Buy 4 stupid, get the 5th one free.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:00 PM (L2xDv)
Social Science is neither.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 18, 2014 12:00 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 12:00 PM (ZPrif)
That's my line!
Actually, "social" is an adjective that serves the sole purpose of mocking the noun that follows.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:01 PM (L2xDv)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 18, 2014 12:01 PM (fIv/H)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 12:01 PM (ZPrif)
tea bagger.
Posted by: Jeb Bush, Prince of Wales at December 18, 2014 12:02 PM (hKyl0)
Only if you are dealing with one of the less radicalized members of the Cult of Progressivism.
Otherwise, you get the angry, screeching, nonsensical call of the moonbat...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 18, 2014 12:03 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:03 PM (rwI+c)
Think that's the uncharitable assertion of a real scientist? Here are the data (from social "scientists," no less!):
http://tinyurl.com/2gv8dw
In their literature they use impenetrable jargon because
a) they think that that's what real scientists do (it's not; new concepts/phenomena necessitate new words, whereas the social sciences deal with concepts/phenomena with which everyone is familiar), and
b) they're real scientists wannabes.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:04 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 18, 2014 12:04 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Michael Mann at December 18, 2014 12:04 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:01 PM (L2xDv)
Hey! Social disease is no laughing matter!
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:05 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Roy at December 18, 2014 12:05 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:05 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 12:05 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: maddogg at December 18, 2014 12:05 PM (xWW96)
A. There's money to be made in the real world.
B. Those who can do, those who can't teach.
C. Who the hell wants to willingly associate with a bunch of swampy progs.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 18, 2014 12:05 PM (Z7toi)
Posted by: Michael Mann
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That's two minutes for cross-checking.
Posted by: Roy at December 18, 2014 12:05 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 12:06 PM (ZPrif)
It took decades, maybe a century. The tipping point was around the 1940s or so. Before WWII, colleges were a bastion of conservatism. The SAT was devised as a means of breaking the legacy-connection-donor merry-go-round, for example.
Posted by: Phinn at December 18, 2014 12:06 PM (i5GO4)
It's intellectually lax because it's premise isn't truth, it's confirmation of bias.
Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 12:06 PM (MMC8r)
tea bagger.
Posted by: Jeb Bush, Prince of Whales
FIFY Jebby.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 12:07 PM (BPT9g)
They have help. Known conservatives aren't going to get tenure.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:07 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 12:09 PM (T5FIm)
...thankfully, the interlocutor then farted and much mirth was to be had.
Posted by: Bigby's Clapping Hands at December 18, 2014 12:09 PM (3ZtZW)
Progressivism is NOT killing the social sciences, because I am smarter than you, that's why.
Posted by: Jon Gruber at December 18, 2014 12:09 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:09 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Chupacabras at December 18, 2014 12:09 PM (W2YA6)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 12:09 PM (BPT9g)
They have help. Known conservatives aren't going to get tenure.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:07 PM (rwI+c)
Ah, forgot the most obvious, thanks!
D. Hostile and very toxic work environment.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 18, 2014 12:09 PM (Z7toi)
Posted by: HoboJerk, TPHSATAR at December 18, 2014 12:09 PM (FA3Z7)
After a blow like that, the liberal's head should have popped up, rockem-sockem robot style. Then there should have followed about 10 minutes of activity where someone found a chair to stand on and someone else attempted to push his head back down onto his shoulders.
Posted by: edj at December 18, 2014 12:10 PM (klzyR)
The ones who are trying a little harder manage to scrawl out something that resembles a formula which happens to contain one or more variables that are impossible to quantify. But hey, now they have Math on their side, so it's all legit.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 18, 2014 12:10 PM (xSCb6)
So much straw it would make an arsonist...real happy
Posted by: Aacid at December 18, 2014 12:11 PM (zG01h)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 18, 2014 12:11 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 12:11 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 18, 2014 12:11 PM (WgxM8)
There is seldom found a more loathsome creature than a stupid one convinced of it's own superiority.
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Stupid people don't know they are stupid--that's actually science.
I tell ya', if I was retired, I'd take the most leftist classes at the local university merely to piss all over the progtard teacher.
And I'd put "black" for my race on every form.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 18, 2014 12:11 PM (5yHi1)
Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 12:12 PM (MMC8r)
It's simplistic, but here's a quick suffix guide to academic seriousness:
-ics
-engineering
-ology
-science
-studies
Think that's the uncharitable assertion of a real scientist? Here are the data (from social "scientists," no less!):
http://tinyurl.com/2gv8dw
Well, that has to do with occupations and carved out college professors. I like this one:
http://tinyurl.com/mro89ss
Not so much for the gender breakdown but for what's at the top and what's at the bottom.
In their literature they use impenetrable jargon because
a) they think that that's what real scientists do (it's not; new concepts/phenomena necessitate new words, whereas the social sciences deal with concepts/phenomena with which everyone is familiar), and
The humanities and social sciences use language to obscure. The natural sciences (and especially math) use language to explain. We often use words that produce an analogy or metaphor ("tree", "path", "saddle point") or have a very precise meaning.
b) they're real scientists wannabes.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:04 PM (oKE6c)
Yeah. Jock-sniffers, but in the most ironic way possible.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:12 PM (L2xDv)
Posted by: Science at December 18, 2014 12:12 PM (MNq6o)
Their answer, in my experience, is virtually never. If you listen carefully to them talking about their work, they'll say things such as they "did a study to establish that [their original conjecture] is true." And voila! It was! Yay me! Let's publish!
Real scientists don't talk like that, because we get wrong-footed by experimental results all the time. Periodic astonishment is the lot of a real experimental scientist. We sometimes generate results that others find literally incredible until they go into the lab and reproduce them. "Goddamnit, he's right! That's amazing!"
Now when does that happen in social science, hmmm?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:12 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Glaucon at December 18, 2014 12:12 PM (T5FIm)
Posted by: MTF at December 18, 2014 12:13 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: DaveA at December 18, 2014 12:13 PM (DL2i+)
Actually, the Vietnam draft had a lot to do with it. Hippie kids could lounge in college forever.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:13 PM (L2xDv)
Posted by: PT Barnum at December 18, 2014 12:14 PM (Spluw)
There is engineering.
There is mathematics.
There are all others.
"Social Science" is an oxymoron.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 18, 2014 12:14 PM (B3gSz)
I got the feeling that the conservative ones were often the most effective because they were the quickest to cut through the BS and ascertain those who really needed help and those who were system gamers/hopeless lost causes who wanted chance after chance to screw up.
Also exchanged e-mails with a liberal professor about this. Part of his theory was that conservatives who might have been qualified to be academicians simply weren't interested. Self selection.
Posted by: RM at December 18, 2014 12:15 PM (fRppw)
That's the problem though. This undoubtedly self-styled intellectual titan can't even recognize the fact that he just got his nuts kicked into his empty cranium.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 18, 2014 12:15 PM (xSCb6)
It's intellectually lax because it's premise isn't truth, it's confirmation of bias.
Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 12:06 PM (MMC8r)
This. This exactly.
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at December 18, 2014 12:15 PM (KkVB6)
it got taken over by SJW
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 12:16 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: AmishDude
I guarantee you the colleges and universities were (and probably continue to be) awash in KGB money to spread and foster stupidity.
Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2014 12:16 PM (MNq6o)
Now when does that happen in social science, hmmm?
At the cocktail parties.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 12:16 PM (BPT9g)
The chairman of the Political Science department at the Univ of Del stated that Political Science was more accurately the art of taking something obvious and making it less so.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 12:16 PM (Spluw)
Its not intellectually-lax philosophy if you believe it! Constanza Rule.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 18, 2014 12:16 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 12:18 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 18, 2014 12:18 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at December 18, 2014 12:18 PM (yHNS+)
Those who can't, teach.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 12:18 PM (T5FIm)
She never looked up Confirmation Bias though, so give her a break
Posted by: Bigby's Clapping Hands at December 18, 2014 12:18 PM (3ZtZW)
The herd of independent thinkers.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:19 PM (rwI+c)
Which opens up a Pandora's Box of bad goodies for the left to play with.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 12:19 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Feh at December 18, 2014 12:20 PM (Jktcu)
The pie chart was invented by the founder of the Red Cross. The mere existence of statistical analysis does not mean that it will not be used by your opponents as a weapon. Impenetrable jargon is not the only technique the left has co-opted from theoretical physics. And there is not a moral relativist now practicing who does not believe their world-view is not firmly rooted in theories of physical relativity.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 18, 2014 12:20 PM (xq1UY)
That's so like Polemarchus.
Posted by: Glaucon
"And he had made a trumpet of his rump" -Dante
Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2014 12:22 PM (MNq6o)
obscure. The natural sciences (and especially math) use language to
explain. We often use words that produce an analogy or metaphor ("tree",
"path", "saddle point") or have a very precise meaning.
b) they're real scientists wannabes.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:04 PM (oKE6c)
Yeah. Jock-sniffers, but in the most ironic way possible.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:12 PM (L2xDv)
Yep. The natural sciences use language to denote unfamiliar objects/ phenomena/ concepts in a succinct fashion. It's awkward to denote, e.g., a molecule by describing it: "You know a carbon chain with an oxygen atom double bonded to one of the interior carbon atoms. That thing," as opposed to calling it a "ketone."
Social scientists, OTOH, deal with the familiar. Once at a party in grad school a buddy (real scientist) was chatting up a social scientist chick, who told him she was researching why women are the predominant care-givers to young children. What had she discovered, he asked. "Because a lot of women enjoy doing it, and men don't want to.""Hell, I coulda told you that."And no, he didn't get her phone number. Quelle surprise.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:22 PM (oKE6c)
Sorta. Nearly all of them were sub-fields of philosophy at one point, and some like consciousness studies still are. The difference is the dispensing of formalistic Logic for Scientific Method, with mixed results. I'm kinda glad it remains not-Science, honestly.
Posted by: Bigby's Clapping Hands at December 18, 2014 12:22 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinair
And every incentive to be honest has been perverted. The goal of tenure makes subordinates terrified of putting a foot wrong lest they displease those who are at no risk. These departments are subsidized by group requirements, bullshit 'studies' requirements that all students are forced to take.
And they see college presidents pandering to the loudest, craziest student and third party groups.
Duke tried to crucify an entire team, and no one there lost their job. Oddly, the prosecutor was the only one held responsible.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 12:23 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 12:23 PM (ZPrif)
their beliefs only through denying reality achieved that result by
describing ideological liberal beliefs as "reality," surveying people on
whether they agreed with them, and then concluding that those who
disagree with them are in denial of reality -- and lo, people in that
group are much more likely to be conservative!
I can't add anything to this, it just bears repeating.
Posted by: Heralder at December 18, 2014 12:23 PM (/Mxso)
Posted by: Social Science Graduate Student (9th year) at December 18, 2014 12:23 PM (lN8KC)
it's own little ghetto. Unless these people become actual professors
(well under 1%) most people that major in these fields have shit jobs
with absolutely zero skills from their $250k education. I know I would
go out of my way to NOT hire someone with something like a degree in
Anthropology or Sociology.
Everyone is forced to take these
sorts of classes in college, and the stark difference between those
departments and hard sciences couldn't be more obvious. The people you
meet in those classes that have that major are also dumber than a
doornail and just view themselves as crusading political activists. It really is just like a state sponsored left wing think tank/foundation.
I
don't like to see conservatives ever pushed out of anything, but I
really don't view it as a great loss to not be welcome in that insane
asylum.
Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 12:23 PM (Esinq)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 18, 2014 12:23 PM (BZAd3)
"feel".
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 18, 2014 12:23 PM (Bn6aD)
who does not believe their world-view is not firmly rooted in theories
of physical relativity.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 18, 2014 12:20 PM (xq1UY)
The brainless invocation of relativity drives me wild. "Uh, man, 'cause you know, everything is relative, man. Einstein showed that."
No, dumbass, there's just a tad more to relativity than that.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:24 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Feh at December 18, 2014 12:24 PM (Jktcu)
North Korea has learned the lesson of the Muhammad cartoons. natl.re/1C4ZqCX
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 12:25 PM (ZPrif)
I was openly told by a professor "consider recrafting yourself as a libertarian, you'll face less hostility that way." (Quote paraphrased from memory.)
I'm persona non grata at basically every professional group meeting I go to, because...Right winger.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 3 (short) weeks! at December 18, 2014 12:25 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: jeanne del norte at December 18, 2014 12:25 PM (G0bFK)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 18, 2014 12:25 PM (xSCb6)
why women are the predominant care-givers to young children.
Breast feeding.
Mic drop.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 12:25 PM (BPT9g)
The Republican establishment to its credit is trying to crush this element. They should have never invited white racist Democrats into the party in the first place. It will take a decade, but the real GOP will win in the end and once again become a party for freedom for all Americans.
Tea Party depends east.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:25 PM (kn2nB)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 12:25 PM (0HooB)
vilification" of others, and have "crafted a political identity that
rests on a complete repudiation of the idea that the opposing party and
its followers have any legitimacy at all."
Project we much!
Posted by: Jack D. Ripper at December 18, 2014 12:25 PM (/Ho8c)
Related: The article from the chair of the Michigan communication studies (snigger) department saying how she hates Republicans and that's OK.
Yeah, and then they bitch about budget cuts from the state. If I were a legislator, I'd make it very clear that we don't need a damn communication studies department at all and funding would be a lot easier to come by if it didn't exist.
The biggest correction we can make is this:
Get rid of the ridiculous Liberal Arts model of education.
Kill it. End it. Nobody else in the world thinks this way. If you want to give kids culture or similar crap, you have all of high school to do it. While we're sending kids to Anthropology class to get indoctrinated so that they can satisfy a "multicultural" or "Group B" requirement, kids in Europe and Asia are taking math and foreign languages and math.
Also, math.
The liberal arts model was designed for an elite to learn a canon that they could use to communicate with each other. They could use references from and analogies to The Bible, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Aristotle, etc.
These weren't part of a vocational education, but a general education to create leaders. But look at the leaders such an educational system is creating. Rather than being at the top of the educational pyramid, these are generally the people who have avoided hard subjects, skating along on easy fields with subjective grading, using contacts to get into a graduate (read: law) program and developing more contacts to enter the corridors of power.
There's a difference between being able to manipulate ideas and being able to manipulate people. The latter may look smart, but they're not.
Stop requiring breadth and require depth. Multivariable calculus or no diploma.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:26 PM (L2xDv)
Allow me to translate: "I hate Daddy."
Posted by: fly gal at December 18, 2014 12:26 PM (8TdcF)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:26 PM (rwI+c)
Because libs will think you have weed.
Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2014 12:26 PM (MNq6o)
meet in those classes that have that major are also dumber than a
doornail and just view themselves as crusading political activists.
Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 12:23 PM (Esinq)
You describe my roommate in college to a tee. He started out as an engineering major. That lasted two weeks before he became a social science major, and a political crusader.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:26 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 18, 2014 12:26 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: maddogg at December 18, 2014 12:27 PM (xWW96)
Libertarians are respected because they really believe in individual liberty.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:27 PM (kn2nB)
You're the fucking gopher that's been vandalizing the golf course. Admit it.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 12:27 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:28 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:26 PM (L2xDv)
And a foreign language, and some no shit natural sciences.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:28 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:29 PM (kn2nB)
Posted by: Trunk Monkey, Aiming His Torpedo at December 18, 2014 12:29 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:29 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Jay Guevara
And no, Klingon doesn't count.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 12:30 PM (BPT9g)
I'm stumped.
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Somewhere, Cato is cursing auto-correct, probably.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2014 12:30 PM (CzBeD)
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 12:30 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 18, 2014 12:30 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: Country Club Republicans
You're the fucking gopher that's been vandalizing the golf course. Admit it.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 12:27 PM (Spluw)
Tangentially, I learned the other day that golf is actually an acronym. Gentlemen Only Ladies Forbidden.The fact we have women golfers today should be considered by our lovely feminist betters who spend all their time whinging about how oppressed they are.
Posted by: Heralder at December 18, 2014 12:30 PM (/Mxso)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Unrepresented at December 18, 2014 12:30 PM (DT3rQ)
Libertarians are respected
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:27 PM (kn2nB)
Looking for a Hahhhhvahd smaht way of rebranding "FTFY" but coming up empty at the moment.
So, yeah... FTFY.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 18, 2014 12:30 PM (9LuAk)
Posted by: brak at December 18, 2014 12:30 PM (Tj+s6)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 18, 2014 12:31 PM (mf5HN)
They beat the interest out of us.
I was interested in academics, now after many years in grad school I'm not so sure anymore.
I can't publish because everything I write is "wrong think."
I'll never get tenure.
And even if I do get a job I have to sit in a room of people talking about how great Marxism is all day.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 3 (short) weeks! at December 18, 2014 12:31 PM (HDwDg)
It's Average Joe. Though that doesn't answer the question.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:31 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:31 PM (kn2nB)
Obviously this proves that the philosophy department failed to instill commitment.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 18, 2014 12:32 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:32 PM (rwI+c)
It's Average Joe. Though that doesn't answer the question.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:31 PM (rwI+c)
Parody troll.
Trollody.
Parodoll?
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 18, 2014 12:32 PM (9LuAk)
Those with Moral character, do not attack people, because we have been taught its wrong.
Those without Moral character, attack at whim.... and attack targets which they KNOW will not strike back, because said targets have been taught it is wrong.... ie that it is NOT all right to fight back.... that it makes you 'mean'.
This female person should NOT be teaching our children.... but she feels safe from counterattack... from any organized outrage by those with moral character.
This needs to end, or western civilization if finished.
You MUST fight to defend that which is right... and you must IDENTIFY the enemy...
You can do it with Anger... or do it with Humor... but those who would tear down our Civilization MUST be confronted.
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at December 18, 2014 12:32 PM (f0pWu)
It's icky that me and mine are the proud parents of the KKK AND the new (and improved!) Black Panthers, So I'll lie and pawn it off on you.
So the meter sucks. I couldn't even be an English major. That's why I'm a troll.
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 12:32 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:33 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 12:34 PM (Spluw)
I'm stumped.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:26 PM (rwI+c)
Autocorrect doesn't know Latin.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:34 PM (L2xDv)
If the tea party was around back in the 1850's, they would support slavery. The tea party would have supported segregation.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:31 PM (kn2nB)
Yes, because the Tea Party wants to be taxed less, so we can use that information to arrive at the theory that they would have supported slavery. You're wicked smart.
Posted by: Heralder at December 18, 2014 12:34 PM (/Mxso)
Posted by: Bigby's Clapping Hands at December 18, 2014 12:34 PM (3ZtZW)
How will you stop these destructive cultural behaviors?
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:35 PM (kn2nB)
Hell yeah there is money in Academia, but you have to hit the higher
levels to score. I have family that have those high level "jobs".
Let's be honest.... they don't work. Most of the time it doesn't matter
if they go to the office or not, and they can take extended leave at
the drop of a hat for any reason. Needless to say they are Marxists
that don't understand why I cannot have the same freedom they do. I
know that I have to work.... like really work, so I can put food on the
table. They are not encumbered by such worries.
Posted by: Trunk Monkey
The thing is, those jobs are almost like all the ghetto kids that all think they're going to be a professional athletes. Around 99% of them will not become tenured professors. Far more will end up floating around as baristas when they go into that field.
Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 12:35 PM (Esinq)
to learn a canon that they could use to communicate with each other.
They could use references from and analogies to The Bible, Shakespeare,
Chaucer, Aristotle, etc.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:26 PM (L2xDv)
I actually like the liberal arts model. My college curriculum required two years of a humanities sequence that interwove literature, history, and philosophy, and reading the classics in each field. I loved it.
Once, at High Table at a British university, a humanities don averred that "one couldn't be considered educated unless one had read X" (which I've now forgotten, but fortunately had read in that liberal arts curriculum). I agreed, and added that I would add the Feynman lectures on physics to that list. The physics nodded, but the rest looked baffled.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:35 PM (oKE6c)
I can.
I am aware of a study (not sure if it's still ongoing) that sought to find the source of "virtue" in the brain.
Lo and behold every "virtue" they chose was progressive trope.
Lo and behold, every "conservative" had "underdeveloped" "virtue" "areas."
Bullshit all the way down.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 3 (short) weeks! at December 18, 2014 12:35 PM (HDwDg)
It's in the expensive aisle. Next to the fair trade organic coffee.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:35 PM (rwI+c)
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Well, we would need someone to help us get detergent off the high shelves at Target.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2014 12:35 PM (CzBeD)
I have a monkey for that.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:36 PM (rwI+c)
Invent a time machine, visit your mother and show her you posts.Her decison not to do thatfateful $25 trick would come easier.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 12:37 PM (Spluw)
The tea party could care less about taxes. Its about rural white resentment against other groups. The tea party of 2009 and 2010 was about fiscal issues. After that it was about bashing women, gays and minorities. The tea party would support slavery and take away women's rights to vote.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:37 PM (kn2nB)
Uh... just the opposite.
The TEA party supports the power of the individual and says stop treating people like groups...
Slavery, in its late stages, was ethnic... ie treated people differently because of the group they were in... (just like Democrats want)...
Its funny to hear the Left say that the TEA party is Raaaaacist.... because they will not give minorities SPECIAL treatment... because they treat everyone as a single sovereign citizen... exactly like Martin Luther King envisioned...
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at December 18, 2014 12:38 PM (f0pWu)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 18, 2014 12:38 PM (knoK7)
and the raping. That's the real attraction to me.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:38 PM (rwI+c)
I'll never get tenure.
And even if I do get a job I have to sit in a room of people talking about how great Marxism is all day.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 3 (short) weeks! at December 18, 2014 12:31 PM (HDwDg)
I had tenure, and left.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:38 PM (oKE6c)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeFoGo3N_4g
Posted by: jim at December 18, 2014 12:39 PM (VwhRo)
Posted by: maddogg at December 18, 2014 12:39 PM (xWW96)
Seriously hoping this administrative interview goes good tomorrow.
Then I can worry less about being an academic. Still will finish my PhD so I can say "I'm a fucking expert" to libtards.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 3 (short) weeks! at December 18, 2014 12:39 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 12:39 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:40 PM (kn2nB)
ghetto kids that all think they're going to be a professional athletes.
Around 99% of them will not become tenured professors. Far more will end
up floating around as baristas when they go into that field.
Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 12:35 PM (Esinq)
Yep. It's like putting lottery tickets in your 401(k).
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:40 PM (oKE6c)
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No, Hector's schtick always assumes that Tea Partiers hate Hispanics. Slavery is outside of his area of expertise.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2014 12:40 PM (CzBeD)
No worries then.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:40 PM (rwI+c)
OK horde, who wants in the baby pool? $5 a guess make checks payable to me
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 12:40 PM (HDwDg)
53 Killing most social sciences at universities would be an excellent way to clean some of the most flagrant of this crap up. Cut public funding for communications, sociology, gender studies, much of anthropology and anything that doesn't serve a vocational or classical liberal arts purpose.
Posted by: MTF at December 18, 2014 12:13 PM (LISuA)
Do this and plow those funds into STEM and we'll be on Mars by 2020.
My father used to hire day laborers from an organization that supplied them: wages plus lunch plus bus fare was the deal. Lots of folks with PhD's but none in a STEM field. The one I remember best was a guy with a PhD in Russian Literature. For a teenager like me at the time it was a great lesson in what NOT to take in college.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 18, 2014 12:40 PM (B3gSz)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 12:00 PM (ZPrif
Unless you are at Marquette
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 18, 2014 12:40 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:41 PM (rwI+c)
The tea party is pro rape. They want to force women who at raped to carry the rapist's offspring.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:41 PM (kn2nB)
DRUDGE REPORT @DRUDGE_REPORT
VIDEO: THE DEATH SCENE... http://drudge.tw/1zAPodt
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 12:41 PM (ZPrif)
And even then, you don't make the "real" money unless you're a full professor.
And even then, you have to be at one of a very small number of universities.
And even then, you have to be in a preferred department/program.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:41 PM (L2xDv)
Posted by: maddogg at December 18, 2014 12:41 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Susan J. Douglas at December 18, 2014 12:41 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 12:41 PM (Zs8xF)
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:31 PM (kn2nB)
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Another hilarity: modern day Democrats are unhappy with their history and try to seize Republican history instead.
The Democrat Party was founded in support of slavery, fought a war for it, created Jim Crow after losing the war, founded the KKK as a military adjunct of Jim Crow and defends Plantation mentality to this very day in every goddam position the party takes. Get used to it, Hector: you're a racist.
Posted by: MTF at December 18, 2014 12:41 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: flounder at December 18, 2014 12:41 PM (sDapq)
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Lefties couldn't throw a decent Number Six dance if you gave them the ballroom for free.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2014 12:41 PM (CzBeD)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 18, 2014 12:42 PM (HSmrB)
Well duh. How else will we get the next generation of rape slaves?
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:42 PM (rwI+c)
Its just annoying to hear them bitch. I wish the tea party would all collectively die, so the right can crush the left.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:42 PM (kn2nB)
Posted by: maddogg at December 18, 2014 12:42 PM (xWW96)
No kidding.
Isn't it amazing how "worried" liberals are that Republicans might be going extinct if they don't do what they say?
I hear this over and over, that if Republicans don't support Amnesty, they'll never win another election, etc. If they honestly believed that, they would be doing everything they could to make damn sure that happened.
Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 12:42 PM (Esinq)
This person has always perceived himself as an intellectual. Wanting very much to be able to debate topics from a place of authority and knowledge...but he wasn't very smart to begin with.
Now he feels that his divinity degree gives him some kind of authority to debate the liberal religious topics of the day...gay marriage, racism, etc. If you disagree with his stance, he has a condescending way of pretending his job as pastor and his degree make him 'apolitical' and only concerned about 'matters of faith.'
It is enough to drive anyone batty. This person has bought hook-line-and-sinker into the liberal beliefs of intellectual superiority. Apparently, you can align yourself with liberal 'scholars' and then you are 'smart.'
How did I end up with so many college friends who turned into liberal nutjobs?
Posted by: KG at December 18, 2014 12:43 PM (52hS8)
Posted by: A Real Scientist at December 18, 2014 12:43 PM (lN8KC)
Projecting. Always projecting.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:43 PM (L2xDv)
Posted by: Country club gopher at December 18, 2014 12:43 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 12:44 PM (659DL)
Nah the real money is in Grants.
Swim in RO1 grants and you'll never be poor. One of these days I'm going to submit an ESLI grant that boils down to "pay me a salary to bullshit."
It's technically not grant fraud if you do exactly what you say you'll do.
I'll need some fancy doublespeak math though, what do you say Amish Dude?
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 12:44 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Trunk Monkey, Aiming His Torpedo at December 18, 2014 12:45 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 12:44 PM (659DL)
Sure there is!
Posted by: Harry Seldon at December 18, 2014 12:45 PM (f0pWu)
Yes the Democrats were the party of the KKK. But guess where all those Dixiecrats went? They joined the GOP first as the Socons and now as the tea party. The GOP establishment are the heirs of Lincoln. The tea party are the heirs of Jefferson Davis, Maddox and George Wallace.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:45 PM (kn2nB)
Posted by: Country club gopher at December 18, 2014 12:45 PM (Spluw)
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Ah, but there's a difference beyond degree: you wanted to prepare to get a job and they didn't (until it was too late).
I still see it in colleges. My son is graduating in the spring and he and several of his closest friends already have jobs lined up, while others he knows haven't even begun to search. Jobs aren't readily available and the early bird really does get the worm.
Posted by: MTF at December 18, 2014 12:46 PM (LISuA)
My response is as it has been in the past (for the time being.)
"Fuck you, I'm Catholic, you don't speak on matters of faith to me jackass."
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 12:46 PM (HDwDg)
The grave? 1964 was 50 years ago. Hello. It's the twentyfirst century.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:46 PM (rwI+c)
I stayed exactly where i was dumbass.
Posted by: Sen Robert 'sheets' Byrd (D-Hell) at December 18, 2014 12:46 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at December 18, 2014 12:46 PM (yHNS+)
I've only met one committed Communist in the real sense. She ran an unlicensed restaurant in Brussels and was a true believer.
There's a kind of purity with a real communist. They're unlike the liberals we're talking about here, because they understand and acknowledge the realities. This particular woman blamed the failure of communism on the inability to change the human condition to accept less in exchange for parity.
Faux communists - the campus socialist - don't have the intellectual honesty to go that far.
Posted by: jwest at December 18, 2014 12:47 PM (vwlGK)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 18, 2014 12:47 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: Nobel Committee at December 18, 2014 12:47 PM (XzRw1)
If illegals were WASPs, the tea party would be all for amnesty. Anti Catholicism runs through the vein of the Calvinist scum called the tea party.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:47 PM (kn2nB)
___________
And kill kittens and puppies and throw old people off cliffs.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 12:48 PM (0LHZx)
Progressivism isn't killing the social sciences. Progressivism spawned the social sciences. Progressivism sustains the social sciences.
Without progressivism, there's no cultural anthropology, no sociology, no social workers. Those spurious disciplines exist because of progressivism.
What progressivism has actually killed is the classical liberal arts education. Eventually, it will kill the entire the public school system, universities included.
Posted by: Hegemony Cricket at December 18, 2014 12:48 PM (ASn1R)
I just kind of smirk and make the jerkingoff gesture.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:48 PM (rwI+c)
Modern Universities have bilked far more families out of their retirement savings than any white collar criminal "ponzi scheme" on Wall Street.
I actually think that the racket is about to come to an end, people are finally starting to wake up, it's not just conservatives that are noticing what a fraud Academia really is.
Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 12:48 PM (Esinq)
Short version: I'm so stupid, I can't troll properly.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 12:48 PM (Spluw)
Well duh. How else will we get the next generation of rape slaves?
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 18, 2014 12:42 PM (rwI+c)
I know, right?
What to do at lunch today...batting cages, or rape...
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 18, 2014 12:48 PM (vgIRn)
Dear fuckstick...please produce some evidence that the tea party is a) socon in nature, b) racists, or c) southern.
Thanks.
Signed,
Someone who can do seventh grade math.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 12:48 PM (659DL)
The problem arises when Progs try to brainwash our kids (and everyone else) into thinking that lies are true.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 12:49 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Feh at December 18, 2014 12:24 PM (Jktcu)
Ah, about those tuition breaks. A buddy (actually the same guy cited above) is at a private university that "offers" those. The fine print says "IF your child is accepted." So what did they do when his kids were college-bound? You got it. Why give away $250 K in tuition, they reasoned. Meanwhile, they give free tuition to Antwan with his 400 SAT score to give themselves top cover from the race hustlers.
And 4% annual raises? Forget it. Ever heard of something called "salary compression?" Some universities raise their salaries for initial] appointments, because they're competing in the market with other universities.
But it's not easy for most faculty to move (it's like moving a place kicker from one NFL team to another; the fit and the timing have to be perfect on both ends). Universities know this, so some don't give their established faculty raises. Thus the salary range from the newest appointment to the oldest gets smaller, hence "salary compression."
All of my friends still in academia are truly miserable, not so much for financial reasons, but because the same attitude pervades all aspects of how they're treated.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:49 PM (oKE6c)
Did she give the food away?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 12:49 PM (659DL)
Like Jello Pudding, there's always room for rape.
Posted by: Bill Cosby at December 18, 2014 12:49 PM (rwI+c)
Some Dixiecrat politicians stayed with the dems. But Dixiecrat voters became Republicans.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:49 PM (kn2nB)
I think it's worse than this in some respects. Many leftist concepts simply exist as axioms.
Behold "white privilege". You take a couple of incontrovertible truths:
1. Racism exists
2. America is majority white
And then you run wild with it.
Example: A black tenured famous professor is in a social situation with a white, poor, non-famous, non-connected freshman who attends his class. SJW's will say the person with the "power" in this relationship is the freshman.
Huh?
How do you measure privilege? Has anyone come up with a rigorous, testable definition?
If you question the idea, the proponent will retreat back to one or both of the incontrovertible truths above, "You don't believe racism exists?" It's maddening.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 18, 2014 12:50 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 12:00 PM (ZPrif
Unless you are at Marquette
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 18, 2014 12:40 PM (F2IAQ)
You know, I was pondering this morning where it is I need to submit grant proposals to get some sweet sweet grant money to prove I exist.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 18, 2014 12:50 PM (mf5HN)
Well, you know.
Full employment and all.
Posted by: Bigby's Clapping Hands at December 18, 2014 12:50 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: MTF at December 18, 2014 12:50 PM (LISuA)
I'm at your disposal. However, mathematics itself is notoriously poorly-funded. In part, this has to do with the elitist egalitarians who run the profession (into the ground) but largely it's that people who control funding only understand "Wal-Mart science". If it's not on the shelf ready to use, they aren't interested.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:50 PM (L2xDv)
Note, the more Progressives have been in charge of education, the LOWER the test scores have become.
Posted by: Harry Seldon, Professor of Psychohistory, Trantor Univercity at December 18, 2014 12:50 PM (f0pWu)
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 12:50 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Bigby's Clapping Hands at December 18, 2014 12:51 PM (3ZtZW)
Read the comment sections of this place, Breitbart and weasel zippers. Its all racial resentment and social issues.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:51 PM (kn2nB)
Oh, you mean they woke up one day and found that the Democratic Party had been taking them for granted? Something like that?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 12:51 PM (659DL)
Without progressivism, there's no cultural anthropology, no
sociology, no social workers. Those spurious disciplines exist because
of progressivism.
Posted by: Hegemony Cricket at December 18, 2014 12:48 PM (ASn1R)
Exactly. Look up the history of how sociology was originally
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:51 PM (oKE6c)
I can't even find it in the store anymore
Posted by: Bigby's Clapping Hands
Top shelf. You'll need help reaching it.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 12:51 PM (BPT9g)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 12:52 PM (659DL)
Yes Obama is forcing some Catholic charities to carry bc. Thatvis wrong, but the tea party trashes the Catholic church on a daily basis.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:52 PM (kn2nB)
Posted by: MTF at December 18, 2014 12:52 PM (LISuA)
I pointed out, at the time, that I knew something of federal insurance plans b/c I worked in one during my military years. And, guess what? The federal employees had their choices of many, many insurance plans. Not just one.
I also said that it would be ridiculous to imagine George Bush sitting in the Oval Office scrutinizing birth control coverage in all of the available health plans and specifically looking for ones that didn't include birth control coverage.
This is the kind of nuts we are dealing with. Seriously STUPID 'intellectuals' who couldn't' find their way out of a paper bag.
Posted by: KG at December 18, 2014 12:53 PM (52hS8)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 12:53 PM (659DL)
Posted by: Thrasymachus at December 18, 2014 12:53 PM (2lG7c)
That and the Republicans made the mistake of adopting social issues to attract the bigot vote.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:53 PM (kn2nB)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:53 PM (oKE6c)
Evwerybody knows the Dont Tread On Me flag is Southern. Like DUH helloooo?
Posted by: Bigby's Clapping Hands at December 18, 2014 12:53 PM (3ZtZW)
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Wanna see a lefty head asplode??? Point out that arguments like THIS are EXACTLY like racist sentiment in the early 20th century. Exactly.
Illustrate to them the vitriol, the feelings of superiority, the dismissive nature of an entire group of people. Show them that by switching the word Teabagger with N****r, they are using the very same vernacular of the Klan. Point out to them they are EXACTLY like Klansmen, except their target is a different type of person. Call them Bull Connor of political thought.... step back.... and watch the histrionics.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 12:54 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Tea Party Activist at December 18, 2014 12:54 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 18, 2014 12:54 PM (NtzGn)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 12:54 PM (659DL)
But anyhoo, ignore that and love my lies that i can't begin to prove.
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 12:54 PM (Spluw)
The Communists were all children of great wealth. One commie chick's dad had a database company he sold to Microsft in the 80s and cashed out. Another commie chick had a father who'd gotten rich in wireless telecom.
One was on her 3rd grad school. She's started then bailed on law school and anthro grad and was in the middle archaeology grad when I met her. Though she was on a break at the time.
The hot blonde commie had just gotten back from a 6 month residential-study in Jamaica where she studied steel drums. And then 6 months later she left to spend a year in India studying yoga and sanskrit.
They had crazy money, but they both dressed like Portlandia extras.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 12:54 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: MTF at December 18, 2014 12:55 PM (LISuA)
Did she give the food away?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 12:49 PM (659DL)
She did have a table towards the back where people who obviously couldn't afford the price were eating, so she probably did. Either that or they were relatives.
Best mussels and lobster in Europe. Served with a garlic aioli and black bread.
Posted by: jwest at December 18, 2014 12:55 PM (vwlGK)
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 12:32 PM (Spluw)
It's worse than that. I flunked out of the Communications program. I cannot control my bowels and I recycle scotch tape for a living.
I really totes need my Sorosbucks.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:55 PM (UtwNa)
Posted by: Bigby's Clapping Hands at December 18, 2014 12:56 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2014 12:40 PM
If illegals were WASPs, the tea party would be all for amnesty.
Told you it was Hector. He's back to his Tea Partiers Hate Hispanics schtick.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 18, 2014 12:56 PM (knoK7)
I don't need real math, I need bullshit equations that allow to go "and then when I run my data through these we'll get the answer to life, the universe, and everything."
I have learned, in my short stint doing ELSI work, that this is how the game is played.
You make up some easy to prove on the small scale hypothesis, then confuse the shit out of the reviewers with "Math" (where "math" is a highly flexible term)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 18, 2014 12:50 PM (mf5HN)
I'm sure I could find a way to do this. Plus you have a law degree, the "L" in "ELSI" stands for "legal." So we'll bullshit some more there too
.Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 12:56 PM (HDwDg)
Ironically, fields where there is no real progress are ripe for progressives to take over because no one expects any useful results.
Whereas building a probe to land on an asteroid requires something more than laying on one's ass and pontificating about it. It at least requires a snazzy shirt.
Posted by: Thatch at December 18, 2014 12:56 PM (m/nBa)
Which is just a tool for upper-middle class and upper-class elitist white liberals to dilute their real, genuine privilege and pretend that it's just a coincidental, sub rosa, microaggressions kind of circumstance.
People find it quite weird that I'm an American.
Weirder that I went to public school. Not a magnet, charter or elite public school. Just a rugulur one.
If it ever comes up that my parents never went to college...yeah. I'm just dripping with privilege.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:56 PM (L2xDv)
Although the hottest womYns on campus in order of major were
1. Marketing
2. Poli-Sci
3. Philosophy
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 12:56 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: A Real Scientist at December 18, 2014 12:43 PM (lN8KC)
Good for you!
I used to joke that I'd like to go back to college, enroll as a sociology major, flunk out, and then change my major to physics. I'd be the first person in human history to do that.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 12:56 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:56 PM (kn2nB)
Southern whites were awesome as long as they were voting Democrat, duh.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:57 PM (L2xDv)
The tea party is funded by Soros. Its a good bogeyman for the left.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:58 PM (kn2nB)
See, being against 'illegals' means you hate all hispano-latino-mexicans. So Hector thinks you're a racist because he equates Mexican with illegal. See how racist YOU are?
#LikeMUMRonLSD
Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 12:58 PM (MMC8r)
Please just tell me what you all disagree most on so I can angrily take one side and try to start a fight here every day.
Posted by: Daily Troll at December 18, 2014 12:58 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 18, 2014 12:59 PM (kff5f)
Posted by Ace at 11:54 AM"
I haven't uncorked this in over 10 years!!
http://www.zombietime.com/iq_of_2004_voters_by_state/
Are Bush Voters Really So "Dumb"?
Almost immediately after George W. Bush defeated John Kerry in the 2004 presidential election, anguished cries rose up among Democrats and liberals across the country: "How could American voters be so stupid as to vote for Bush?" Britain's Daily Mirror newspaper chimed in with a post-election front page that asked, "How can 59,054,087 people be so DUMB?"
What started as a rhetorical question, a moan of despair, suddenly took a scientific turn a few days later when various writers, researchers and bloggers attempted to prove, mathematically, that Bush supporters were indeed much stupider than Kerry supporters. Not metaphorically -- but actually, biologically less intelligent.
Exhibit 1 in the modest pile of evidence against the intelligence of Bush voters is this Web page which shows a chart purportedly giving the average IQ of people in each state, coded to show which state voted for which candidate. This chart was (and is) referred to as gospel across the Internet, supposedly proving beyond doubt that Bush voters are vastly dumber than Kerry voters. Several print magazines even published -- but then later retracted -- that chart, including (most famously) The Economist magazine.
(I would like to point out at this early stage that I personally give no credence to the concept of an "intelligence quotient," and believe that human intelligence cannot be measured with artificial tests. I only discuss IQ here in order to rebut the false claims made by others who use IQ as their only weapon.)
It turns out, however, that the data on that chart is entirely fictitious, and bears little relation to reality. (The page's author recently amended the text accompanying his chart, basically admitting this.) Much more accurate state-by-state intelligence rankings can easily be found in various sources. This pdf file, for example, is a peer-reviewed article by Michael A. McDaniel in Intelligence Magazine that calculates the actual IQ of each state, and is considered very reliable. It also demonstrates how wrong the original chart is -- it's not simply inaccurate, but intentionally deceptive with completely false statistics. A hoax.
[bunch of statistics]
CONCLUSION
a. There is no discernible intelligence difference between Bush voters and Kerry voters.
b. Kerry supporters who insist that Bush voters are "dumb," and who point out as evidence state-by-state IQ scores, are engaging in behavior that could be construed as racially inflammatory. "
Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2014 12:59 PM (K4YiS)
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Wow. Unable to string together any cogent thoughts.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 12:59 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:59 PM (kn2nB)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 18, 2014 01:00 PM (kff5f)
my diaper provides a warming feeling.
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 01:00 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: RokShox at December 18, 2014 01:00 PM (w101k)
It' be some pretty impressive selection bias for 59million people to not basically match your standard bell curve.
Especially given that IQ is locked to a bell curve.
That's a fucking statistical zebra, and yet leftists just bought it wholesale.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 01:00 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Furious George at December 18, 2014 01:01 PM (HpEBw)
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 01:01 PM (Spluw)
Hell, the arguments for illegal immigration are the same arguments for keeping slavery. "Well, who else will do the work?"
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 01:01 PM (L2xDv)
Posted by: RokShox at December 18, 2014 01:00 PM (w101k)
I kinda thought the same about asking a black chick for some assistance at Target..
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 01:02 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 12:51 PM
I always wondered if Dems actually thought about the logic of that theory. Let's see...Racist southern dems, angry at party moving away from them decide to retaliate by joining the party that...was founded to eradicate slavery. Sound likely? Didn't think so.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 18, 2014 01:02 PM (knoK7)
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 12:56 PM (L2xDv)
Funny how the 'War on Women' folks would not like my Parents story...
Mom went to College in the late 40's....
Dad... was in the Navy, and then started climbing Poles for ATT...
Mom became a Teacher.... Dad became a Senior ATT Engineer (due to pure native intelligence).
Thus... MOM was more privileged than Dad...
THAT is the American Story... not the revisionist crap that College Professors try to tell us.
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at December 18, 2014 01:02 PM (f0pWu)
You are the racist who claims Mexicans are all indigenous. You deny the Spanish contribution to their bloodlines and culture. If there were no illegals, you would be advocating throwing Hispanics in death camps.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 01:02 PM (kn2nB)
Wait, I thought recruiting voters from the other side was wrong or something.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 01:02 PM (659DL)
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 01:03 PM (kn2nB)
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 01:03 PM (Spluw)
go out of my way to NOT hire someone with something like a degree in
Anthropology or Sociology.
Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 12:23 PM
The summer before I entered college I took several tests to get college credit,, forget what they were called, maybe CLEP tests. Took 2 on history, which was my main interest and I'd done a lot of reading on my own outside of school. Took the sociology one with no classes in it and skimmed one book in preparation. Lo and behold I passed. Yeah, that's a tough "science".
Posted by: Farmer at December 18, 2014 01:04 PM (o/90i)
With the South just being a bunch of racists Tea Party types, you would think his white opponent would have easily prevailed in South Carolina.
Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 01:04 PM (Esinq)
Your reading comprehension is as bad as your people skills.
Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 01:04 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 3 (short) weeks! at December 18, 2014 12:25 PM (HDwDg)
Not sure if you still are looking for a job, but you might try Franciscan University at Steubenville, Ave Maria in Florida, Christendom, and whatever place Walter Williams teaches at. Also any of the more orthodox protestant colleges.
Posted by: Dandolo at December 18, 2014 01:04 PM (wyI5D)
I guess I just won't get my HQ fix today.
I'm headed to get some Chicken Nuggets of Bigotry. Anyone want anything?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 18, 2014 01:04 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 01:04 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:56 PM (kn2nB)
Fuckin' A. We just bought 50 more, last month, with the proceeds from selling our four wheelers. Shit's not hard, Hector.....
Posted by: Three guys at the kitchen table laughing their asses off at December 18, 2014 01:05 PM (UtwNa)
Unfortunately though most of the Right would be favor of it, the Left would never, ever allow it because they know they could not survive and would not have the Right Wing boogeyman to blame.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 18, 2014 01:05 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 18, 2014 01:05 PM (WgxM8)
1. Marketing
2. Poli-Sci
3. Philosophy
Psychology, but they're batshit crazy.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 01:06 PM (L2xDv)
I'm headed to get some Chicken Nuggets of Bigotry. Anyone want anything?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 18, 2014 01:04
Turkey bologna on whole wheat and a Diet Pepsi, pretty please.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 18, 2014 01:06 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 18, 2014 01:06 PM (knoK7)
Posted by: fly gal at December 18, 2014 01:06 PM (8TdcF)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 01:06 PM (659DL)
Speaking of War On Women.....
Kansas Cities own councilman Michael Brooks resigns over choking his assistant during an argument. Choking. With his bare hands.
You guys outside of KC will never hear about it because of melanin content, and party affiliation.
No comment so far from Lena Dunham.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 01:06 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 18, 2014 01:07 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at December 18, 2014 01:04 PM (kff5f)
One hate shake, please.
Extra Large
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 18, 2014 01:07 PM (wtvvX)
Sadly I really can't move in the short to medium term (long term still unclear.)
Having said that it saddens me that I should have to look so far and wide. I should not be looking at Catholic universities and going "nope, I'll never fit in there."
And yet....
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 01:07 PM (HDwDg)
Feedback on ways to effectively troll you are welcome. The race thing seems to be working. Any other suggestions? Please be specific, this is my job, you know, and I take my work seriously.
Posted by: Daily Troll at December 18, 2014 01:07 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: The Great White Snark
I am superior! my shit doesn't stink. And I have the diaper to prove it. Which would be the first thing I've attempted to prove today.
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 01:07 PM (Spluw)
go out of my way to NOT hire someone with something like a degree in
Anthropology or Sociology.
Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 12:23 PM
An HR guy once brought me a sheaf of resumes for a secretarial position I was trying to fill. One on top was a "Womyns' Studies" major. I shot him a "Really?" look, put the resume to the side, and continued with the next one. Why hire a lawsuit in the making? Let's face it, we had fair warning.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:07 PM (oKE6c)
Not if you regard valets to be Untermenschen, like the elitist leftists do.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 18, 2014 01:07 PM (L2xDv)
Scratch a leftist and you'll find a eugenics fan everytime.
Posted by: brak at December 18, 2014 01:07 PM (Tj+s6)
Posted by: Bigby's Clapping Hands at December 18, 2014 01:07 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Country Club Republahblah at December 18, 2014 01:07 PM (bHnlE)
Speaking of War On Women.....
Kansas Cities own councilman Michael Brooks resigns over choking his assistant during an argument. Choking. With his bare hands.
You guys outside of KC will never hear about it because of melanin content, and party affiliation.
No comment so far from Lena Dunham.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 01:06 PM (NaV4z)
Damn..... dodged that one!
Posted by: The Chicken at December 18, 2014 01:08 PM (f0pWu)
There's "bloodlines" again....
The SA loved to discuss bloodlines. Until the SS took over, that is.
Hey! Just bought another Radio Station.
Posted by: Three guys at the kitchen table laughing their asses off at December 18, 2014 01:08 PM (UtwNa)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 01:08 PM (py+lC)
Progressivism is NOT killing the social sciences, because I am smarter than you, that's why.
Posted by: Jon Gruber at December 18, 2014 12:09 PM (wAQA5)"
Thank you for correcting my error. I mistakenly thought that progressiveism was not killing the social sciences because shut up.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 18, 2014 01:08 PM (PD6iL)
Liberalism is a mental disorder. There's no other explanation.
Posted by: KindofWanttoPunchSusanDouglasintheFace at December 18, 2014 01:09 PM (lNVo9)
I did the same thing with the Sociology CLEP. Easy A for an afternoon spent reading chapter summaries of the Intro textbook, which I then returned to the bookstore.
Posted by: brak at December 18, 2014 01:09 PM (Tj+s6)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at December 18, 2014 01:09 PM (zauWW)
Go fuck yourselves Calvinist Islamic loving inbred trailer park method using trash.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 01:10 PM (kn2nB)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 01:08 PM (py+lC)
Theater.
Batshit crazy, but hot.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:10 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 18, 2014 01:10 PM (wtvvX)
Just a little tried of country club.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 18, 2014 01:10 PM (WNERA)
Already had 2 Biscuits of H8 for breakfast. I'm good. Thanks.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:11 PM (BPT9g)
Let me say, that Communication chairwoman? Exactly what I'd expect from just about any Communication department in the country.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at December 18, 2014 01:11 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 01:10 PM
Horde, put me some knowledge, here. In what language does the above even begin to make sense?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 18, 2014 01:11 PM (knoK7)
my most recent boss was a psychologist.
Pretty blonde type. Claimed to be older than both me and my previous boss (who she took the class over for) which would put her on the high side of 35 at the youngest.
I offhandedly mentioned to my previous boss at a meeting that I thought this new one went into psychology as a type of projection.
Listen, I'm crazy, so I know crazy. But this was a unique form of crazy to me. A person with a PhD who had (according to her resume) done corporate consulting work for large companies, but didn't seem able to manage a class of 30 doctors/researchers.
she also carried exercise clothes wherever she went.
That and she just couldn't get interested in the material (it showed, as I basically had to spoon feed her topics for each class.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 01:11 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: brak at December 18, 2014 01:09 PM (Tj+s6)
There's your calibration: can anyone do that with math or the natural sciences?
It's a rhetorical question, obviously.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:11 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: RWC - Shopping for Justice! at December 18, 2014 01:11 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Calvinist Islamic lover at December 18, 2014 01:12 PM (Spluw)
Go fuck yourselves Calvinist Islamic loving inbred trailer park method using trash.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 01:10 PM (kn2nB)
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**raises coffee mug
Merry Christmas to you and yours Hector. Hafe a safe and Happy Holidays!!
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 01:12 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2014 01:12 PM (py+lC)
Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 01:12 PM (MMC8r)
Somebody was parked on top of the manhole lid...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 18, 2014 01:12 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 01:13 PM (MMC8r)
Batshit crazy, but hot.
Posted by: Jay Guevara
Just a bunch of fat girls who thought they could sing where I went.
Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2014 01:13 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 18, 2014 01:10 PM (wtvvX)
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shhhhhhh.... he's on a roll.....
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 01:13 PM (NaV4z)
I said yesterday you have to be a Retard Whisperer to communicate with Hector.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 18, 2014 01:13 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
this person is nuts.
Posted by: Dr. Amy F'n Bishop! at December 18, 2014 01:13 PM (Spluw)
What are you trying to say?
Posted by: Dr. Amy Bishop at December 18, 2014 01:14 PM (py+lC)
to me. A person with a PhD who had (according to her resume) done
corporate consulting work for large companies, but didn't seem able to
manage a class of 30 doctors/researchers.
Ah, an alumna of "Close Cover Before Striking" University. Like that asshole who wrote "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" crap, and who went out of his way to include the "Ph.D." after his name. Turns out his Ph.D. sojourn consisted of a week (IIRC). I guess the check cleared.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:14 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Country Club Republicans
I fail to see how opposition to whimsically killing unborn babies logically leads to being pro-rape.
Yes, some in the Pro-Life community may not be in favor of any exceptions to abortion bans, but I believe most are primarily against the wanton infant slaughter on a grand scale. Not so much abortions due to medical necessity, incest, or rape.
Posted by: Jack D. Ripper at December 18, 2014 01:14 PM (/Ho8c)
1. Marketing
2. Poli-Sci
3. Philosophy
Psychology, but they're batshit crazy.
And you never do crazy.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:14 PM (BPT9g)
I got $5 that says she'd be a shoe in for the department that let me go last year.
They hired a fresh out of college secretary, passing over a few with previous experience and had to fire her before the end of her probation period. (I'm still not entirely clear as to why. They sent me home early one day, told me later it was because they were firing the secretary and wanted the office clear when they did it.)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 01:14 PM (HDwDg)
Merry Christmas to you and yours Hector. Hafe a safe and Happy Holidays!!
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 01:12 PM (NaV4z)
Ignore him, Hector. Give in to the urge and finally douse yourself in gasoline and light yourself on fire like you've always dreamed. It is only through flame that you can find the purity you seek.
Happy Holidays.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at December 18, 2014 01:14 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 18, 2014 01:14 PM (knoK7)
Go fuck yourselves Calvinist Islamic loving inbred trailer park method using trash.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 01:10 PM (kn2nB)
Heh!! Your EBT card just ran out, huh?
Hah-ha-ha-ha!
Hey! Just shut down another LIbEral talk station that carried Thom Hartmann. That leaves three.
Onward!!
Posted by: Three guys at the kitchen table laughing their asses off at December 18, 2014 01:15 PM (UtwNa)
I heard he called 911 when he got locked into his car.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:15 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Country Club Republahblah at December 18, 2014 01:15 PM (bHnlE)
From plumping to nuclear physics, apprenticeships are how you learn (graduate school in the sciences primarily apprenticeships).
Posted by: A Real Scientist at December 18, 2014 01:16 PM (lN8KC)
Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 01:16 PM (MMC8r)
She worked for a fairly famous organizational psychologist. At a fairly prestigious university before coming here.
I honestly think that many psychology students go into the field to determine what's wrong with them.
And from there it only gets worse.
As I said, I'm crazy. I can deal with crazy. Crazy is sort of a norm for me in fact. But even I tilted my head and went "What the ever loving hell is going on here?!"
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 01:16 PM (HDwDg)
I'll take a hot cup of hate. Black.
Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2014 01:16 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 01:17 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Dr. Amy Bishop
Ilove this place. I know that Iam amongst Morons when someone else chines in one minute after me.
Posted by: Dr. Amy F'n Bishop! at December 18, 2014 01:17 PM (Spluw)
*drags soapbox to center of room and stands thereupon*
Christianity teaches that we are all the same.
*drags soapbox back into corner*
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 01:17 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 18, 2014 01:18 PM (wtvvX)
I'll take a hot cup of hate. Black.
Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2014 01:16 PM (MNq6o)
I could use a hate shake. With extra bacon.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 18, 2014 01:18 PM (bHnlE)
Oh the best part was when I was introduced to her. She tilted her head and went "what does a TA do for this class? I taught undergrads 150 at a time without a TA."
As is custom, we split the grading (30 students) 50/50. (give or take). Students had a 1 page journal per week.
She never got them graded on time.
But she was personable so I'm sure her student evals will be off the chart.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 01:18 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire
*ahem*
Posted by: Calvinist islamic lover at December 18, 2014 01:18 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Spend about a hour reading (D)emocrat Underground. You'll understand real quick.
Posted by: Three guys at the kitchen table laughing their asses off at December 18, 2014 01:18 PM (UtwNa)
Why does not the tea party challenege their enemies to a war? Its because they are a bunch of old dying cowards. I would love to face the tea party in battle.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 01:19 PM (kn2nB)
I heard he called 911 when he got locked into his car.
A convertible, no less.
Posted by: --- at December 18, 2014 01:16 PM (MMC8r)
HAH! and LOL!
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 18, 2014 01:19 PM (wtvvX)
On blocks.
In a junkyard.
Down by the river.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 18, 2014 01:18 PM
Except for the Yugo part, this has the makings of a good blues song.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 18, 2014 01:20 PM (knoK7)
If you want to hear a pro-abortion person stutter , ask them if science perfected a way to take the embryo out and put in machine for the 9 month gestation period that would be adopted out to a loving family, would that satisfy their concern on forcing a woman to carry a baby they did not want?
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 18, 2014 01:20 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 01:20 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 01:21 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Clemenza at December 18, 2014 01:21 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: Three guys at the kitchen table laughing their asses off at December 18, 2014 01:18 PM
Point. I did that once out of idle curiosity. I needed a lot of brain bleach afterward.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 18, 2014 01:21 PM (knoK7)
Tell us again how the Tea Party is socon.
I like that one.
/tents fingers
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2014 01:21 PM (659DL)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 12:01 PM (ZPrif)
Poli-Sci isn't either
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 01:22 PM (lZ1M5)
Fine. Consider the challenge issued, Joe.
Posted by: toby928(C) ponders at December 18, 2014 01:22 PM (rwI+c)
Use Calvinized nails for decks and fences. They dont rust.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 01:22 PM (NaV4z)
Isn't it ironic that Obamacare is going to give us all long lives?
I SAID, "ISN'T IT IRONI..."
By the way, I love it when trolls like you go after Republicans who have soured on the Tea Party and accuse them of being Tea Party apologists. You really do believe that all righties think alike.
Posted by: Shoot Me at December 18, 2014 01:22 PM (EQcfE)
than the tea party. The teatards talk all tough online dreaming of
genocide and ethnic cleansing, but do nothing. At least ISIS gives their
enemies the opportunity to face them on the battlefield.
Ah, yes. So the slaughter of women and children, sexual slavery, beheading infidels and apostates, and putting heads on pikes along roads to serve as deterrants to others who refuse to convert to ISIS's version of Islam ISN'T genocide or ethnic cleansing. It's virtuous battle. Okay.
*whispering into phone* No, we're gonna need the EXTRA STRENGTH straightjacket. This one's a real nut. He's a flinger if I ever heard one.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at December 18, 2014 01:22 PM (4df7R)
That's what that is? What with all the mistakes, I thought it's keyboard was just getting slippery from all the flying spittle.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 01:23 PM (0HooB)
"Rollin', Rollin', Yugo rollin' on the river"
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:23 PM (BPT9g)
It took him months to finally find them.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 18, 2014 01:24 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 01:22 PM
They're really the best for crucifixions, too!
Posted by: Hector's ISIS Buddies at December 18, 2014 01:24 PM (knoK7)
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 01:19 PM
No. No you wouldn't son.
Posted by: RWC - Shopping for Justice! at December 18, 2014 01:24 PM (fWAjv)
This came from the ninth plane of your diaper, didn't it? Admit it.
Posted by: Calvinist Ismlaic lover at December 18, 2014 01:24 PM (Spluw)
So if you could just tell me what is the most inflammatory thing I can say that will cause the most discord and in-fighting here, that would save us all a great deal of time.
If we work together, we can all be more efficient. None of us enjoy the word salad. Especially not me.
Posted by: Daily Troll at December 18, 2014 01:24 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2014 01:24 PM (MNq6o)
Its so hysterical I sometimes think Ace just logs in on a different PC and trolls us
Posted by: Bigby's Clapping Hands at December 18, 2014 01:24 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:23 PM (BPT9g)
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How bout Yugo back and work on writing lyrics some more.....
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 01:24 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire
That aint spit.
Posted by: Hector's keyboard at December 18, 2014 01:25 PM (V70Ne)
Posted by: Country Club Republahblah at December 18, 2014 01:25 PM (bHnlE)
Posted by: Bigby's Clapping Hands at December 18, 2014 01:24 PM (3ZtZW)
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That would explain the occasional self banishment.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 01:25 PM (NaV4z)
I have no beef with anti tea party righties. I am libertarian who hates the tea party with every fiber of my being. I want the tea party ahinilated of the face of the earth.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 01:25 PM (kn2nB)
With the South just being a bunch of racists Tea Party types, you would think his white opponent would have easily prevailed in South Carolina.
Posted by: McAdams at December 18, 2014 01:04 PM (Esinq)
_________
According to the left when a black Republican is elected, it's actually the most racist act possible by white people. You see electing Tim Scott actually mocks black people by electing someone who hates black people and is also black.
Or something like that.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 01:25 PM (0LHZx)
"Rollin', Rollin', Yugo rollin' on the river"
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:23 PM
I like it. But 'Hector' isn't really a blues name. He'll have to come up with something better.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 18, 2014 01:26 PM (knoK7)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 01:23 PM (0HooB)
Since no one is getting angry or offended by the results of the random word generator he is using, he's now trying to use ever more ridiculous and overblown insults to get people upset.
It's funny, like watching a maggot try to squirm through hardened concrete.
Posted by: Heralder at December 18, 2014 01:26 PM (/Mxso)
Posted by: toby928(C) is keeping a list at December 18, 2014 01:26 PM (rwI+c)
And bring the tranquilizer gun. Elephant strength.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:26 PM (BPT9g)
was there a meeting?
did you guys forget to tell me about the meeting?
jeez. just because I forgot it was my turn to bring the coffee cake that ONE time
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 01:26 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 18, 2014 01:21 PM (knoK7)
That and a lot of Advil. The stupid is beyond belief.
Posted by: Three guys at the kitchen table laughing their asses off at December 18, 2014 01:27 PM (UtwNa)
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 01:27 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Bigby's Clapping Hands at December 18, 2014 01:24 PM (3ZtZW)
I thought he only does that when he bans himself?
Posted by: RWC - Shopping for Justice! at December 18, 2014 01:27 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: toby928(C) is keeping a list at December 18, 2014 01:27 PM (rwI+c)
I've thought that myself. It would 'splain a lot.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 01:27 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 01:27 PM (zOTsN)
Whaddya want for free? A rubbbbber biscuit?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:27 PM (BPT9g)
Posted by: dogfish at December 18, 2014 01:27 PM (NuPNl)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 18, 2014 01:27 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 01:28 PM (Spluw)
every fiber of my being. I want the tea party ahinilated of the face of
the earth.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans
Huh?
Posted by: Jack D. Ripper at December 18, 2014 01:28 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: country club gopher at December 18, 2014 01:28 PM (Spluw)
her. She tilted her head and went "what does a TA do for this class? I
taught undergrads 150 at a time without a TA."
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 01:18 PM (HDwDg)
Yow. What a waste of time, unless she had nothing else to do. For freshman classes (ca. 300 enrollment) I used to have a dozen TAs, first to supervise labs so the darlings didn't maim themselves, and second to grade exams. My teaching time was spent preparing lectures (at several hours per), giving the lectures, and writing the exams.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:28 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2014 01:29 PM (39g3+)
They really are like children in that sense. Young kids have this sense that they are the most important person in the world and that they know everything. And anyone who disagrees with them is a poopie head.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 01:29 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: toby928(C) is keeping a list at December 18, 2014 01:29 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 01:30 PM (0LHZx)
The NHL Announces It's Going Carbon Nuetral To Save Planet From Globull Warmening.
Ice Will No Longer Be Frozen.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:30 PM (BPT9g)
Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds at December 18, 2014 01:31 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 01:31 PM (lZ1M5)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 01:31 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: rickb223
think snynchronized swimming. With weapons and a puck.
Posted by: new horizons in marketing at December 18, 2014 01:31 PM (Spluw)
I've been to one a couple times, invited by others, but never belonged to one, or even considered joining one.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:31 PM (oKE6c)
No clue.
She claimed she'd spend all money prepping, but then her lectures were incredibly disorganized.
At one point she just looked over at me (I only half pay attention since I've sat through the class 3 times now) and I realized I was supposed to fill in some gaps.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 01:31 PM (HDwDg)
Study: Liberals Smarter, More Open-Minded Than Conservatives
http://tinyurl.com/p965q5q
Posted by: Mega at December 18, 2014 01:31 PM (hHFOx)
Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds at December 18, 2014 01:31 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 01:31 PM (zOTsN)
The NHL Announces It's Going Carbon Nuetral To Save Planet From Globull Warmening.
Ice Will No Longer Be Frozen.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:30 PM (BPT9g)
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Two things:
One. If they did that it wouldnt be hockey anylonger.... itd be water polo.
Two: Wouldnt the ice help to *cool* the planet?
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 01:32 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at December 18, 2014 01:32 PM (X+nFp)
Posted by: new horizons in marketing at December 18, 2014 01:31 PM (Spluw)
Armored water polo. You get five minutes in the penalty box for drowning.
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 01:32 PM (lZ1M5)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 01:32 PM (zOTsN)
Two minute penalty for drowning.
Posted by: toby928(C) is keeping a list at December 18, 2014 01:32 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 01:33 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 01:29 PM (0LHZx)
The Dunning-Kruger effect. Itself a rare instance of something of value and validity arising from social science.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:33 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds
I'll take 'things the mother of the 15 lb baby said' for $1000 Alex.
Posted by: Sean Connery at December 18, 2014 01:33 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 01:33 PM (zOTsN)
When you first wake up, that's usually the best time to think of a blues theme.
Speaking of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDh_Fg4G0uE
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 01:33 PM (0HooB)
Cuz a car was parked on toppa my home.
Had to find a new place to go,
So I found a rusty junker Yugo.
Now I'm sittin' on the bank of the ditch,
Feelin' my sores start to itch,
I'm sittin' on the bank of the ditch,
Spewin' shiiiiiit....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 18, 2014 01:33 PM (wtvvX)
kids have this sense that they are the most important person in the
world and that they know everything. And anyone who disagrees with them
is a poopie head.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo
Smoking loads of choom has been shown to halt the maturity of teenagers. Precedent Obonga is a prime example.
Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2014 01:33 PM (MNq6o)
(Apparently, the irony of this accusation given the content of her own article was lost on her.)
Yeah, but she's totally down with aluminumy, zincy and brassy.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2014 01:33 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 01:34 PM (zOTsN)
So, what, they're gonna pay some Ugandans living in a dirt hut to plant a couple trees?
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 01:34 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 18, 2014 01:35 PM (3jmxp)
Oh, it's true. Liberals are so open minded, that their brains have fallen out.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:35 PM (BPT9g)
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at December 18, 2014 01:35 PM (NHtMs)
_____________
I did for 2 years. I got a discounted membership as I was under 35 and was a "junior member". Once 36 hit, I was like fuck this, not worth the money.
Pompous douche bags with even douchier wives. Nice golf course but no way in hell worth the money or having to deal with the d-bags.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 01:36 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 01:36 PM (Spluw)
I've been to one a couple times, invited by others, but never belonged to one, or even considered joining one.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:31 PM (oKE6c)
Does a gun club count? It's probably a waste of money given the tragic boating accident...
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 18, 2014 01:36 PM (bHnlE)
Posted by: rickb223
"My mind, it ain't so open, that anything can crawl right in." -Capt. Beefheart
Posted by: Dang at December 18, 2014 01:37 PM (MNq6o)
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Two, actually. "
Same here, only I quit one not too long ago. Kept the other for the health club, pool and dining. Haven't played golf in 15 years.
Posted by: jwest at December 18, 2014 01:37 PM (vwlGK)
I did the same thing with the Sociology CLEP. Easy A for an afternoon spent reading chapter summaries of the Intro textbook, which I then returned to the bookstore.
Posted by: brak at December 18, 2014 01:09 PM
Hi there fellow Sociologist!
Posted by: Farmer at December 18, 2014 01:38 PM (o/90i)
I take it you didn't even bother to read the rest of that post you quoted.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 01:38 PM (HDwDg)
At one point she just looked over at me (I only half pay attention
since I've sat through the class 3 times now) and I realized I was
supposed to fill in some gaps.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 01:31 PM (HDwDg)
Organizing a lecture takes a lot of time and thought, almost as much as pulling together the material. A good lecturer has the lecture almost committed to memory, so the lecture flows smoothly, in a logical development, without extensive recourse to notes (except for the calculational parts, of course), and allows the lecturer to make eye contact with one person after another, so that each feels as if he's being addressed personally.
Learning to do that takes time and personal application. But once mastered, it makes lecturing kind of fun, actually.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:38 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 01:38 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Jack D. Ripper at December 18, 2014 01:38 PM (/Ho8c)
Susan J. Douglas boldly declares in the opening of the piece.
I would like to walk up to her and say, "Susan J. Douglas, I hate you. Not because you're a Democrat, although that's reason enough, but because your are a stupid, evil cunt."
And no, I won't apologize for using that word in this context. Because you know it's true.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2014 01:39 PM (8Fl6F)
This season, energy powering the ice, lights, and all hockey ops will be from clean, renewable sources #NHLGreen
NHL @NHL 2h 2 hours ago
Have you seen the 2014 NHL Sustainability Report? See what our impact is, and how we'll make an #NHLGreen change: http://s.nhl.com/6015vHPB
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 18, 2014 01:39 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Al Sharpton at December 18, 2014 01:39 PM (JdEZJ)
Nice. I always get a chuckle out of this, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL0F8HiKp6Q
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 18, 2014 01:39 PM (knoK7)
Merely making such a ridiculously illogical statement should disqualify her from employment at any university. It's some combination of actual idiocy and intellectual dishonesty of Holocaust-denying proportions.
She's clearly the product of a hiring process that prioritized GoodThink far above everything else.
Party member in good standing - check. You're hired.
The football team's not the only thing that sucks in Ann Arbor.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at December 18, 2014 01:39 PM (QKIQb)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 18, 2014 01:39 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 01:40 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Jay Guevara
I've noticed that effective ministers and priests can do this. And that they seem at ease being homilists.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 01:40 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Jack D. Ripper at December 18, 2014 01:40 PM (/Ho8c)
Study: Liberals Smarter, More Open-Minded Than Conservatives
http://tinyurl.com/p965q5q
Posted by: Mega at December 18, 2014 01:31 PM (hHFOx)
"The feeling I mean is of course that which prompts a man to say 'I'm as good as you.
"The first and most obvious advantage is that you thus induce him to enthrone at the center of his life a good, solid resounding lie. I don't mean merely that his statement is false in fact, that he is no more equal to everyone he meets in kindness, honesty, and good sense than in height or waist-measurement. I mean he does not believe it himself. He would not say it if he did. No man who says 'I'm as good as you' believes it. The St. Bernard never says it to the toy dog, nor the scholar to the dunce, nor the employable to the bum, nor the pretty woman to the plain. The claim to equality, outside of the strictly political field, is made only by those who feel themselves in some way inferior. What it expresses is precisely the itching, smarting, writhing awareness of an inferiority which the patient refuses to accept."
--Screwtape (C.S. Lewis), "Screwtape Proposes a Toast"
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 01:40 PM (lZ1M5)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 01:38 PM (HDwDg)
You're right. I'm in and out of the thread as time allows today, so I'm missing things.
Posted by: jwest at December 18, 2014 01:40 PM (vwlGK)
More and "easier" chicks?
Posted by: Fox 2! at December 18, 2014 01:40 PM (brIR5)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 01:38 PM (zOTsN)
__________
I think the vast majority of "country clubs" are golf/tennis/pool clubs in urban areas that cost a lot of money to join. That's kind of the point....buy your way into a club that keeps out the riff raff from your swimming pool and golf course.
Not that there's anything wrong with it.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 01:40 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Fritz at December 18, 2014 01:40 PM (dVmLD)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 18, 2014 01:43 PM (l3vZN)
:shrug:
We gave her all the material. She had unfettered access to my advice.
Honestly she was in over her head. This was research ethics, not organizational psychology.
But she was also thoroughly convinced that any use of me to handle lecturing was "unfair to a TA."
We tried to explain, repeatedly, that that's what I was there for. It's in my job description. The whole point of TA-ing is experience, blah blah blah.
Instead I had to jump in and make corrections that she seemed unaware of. (She'd never read the foundational texts of our field. She couldn't even pronounce the author's names.)
I felt bad at points, couldn't care less at others. My old boss is back, we're going to take the changes that worked and jettison the rest.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 01:43 PM (HDwDg)
Like saying David Brooks is a conservative reporter.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 18, 2014 01:44 PM (lHb9q)
if you want your kid to be in a swim team in the summer you might join a club. if you golf frequently you might join a club. If you want to use a workout facility that isn't a pick up bar you might join a club. Grandma and Grandpa might belong to a club. Hell, they may have even bought a retirement home that has privileges at the club
hardly the trumps or the soros or the rockerfellers
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 01:44 PM (zOTsN)
Weasel Zippers
Well after all Clinton had Arafat over many sleep overs.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 01:44 PM (Zmw74)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 01:45 PM (zOTsN)
Weasel Zippers
????????????
This from a sport that uses Energy to create ice indoors so grown men can fight?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 01:46 PM (Zmw74)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 18, 2014 01:46 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2014 01:46 PM (z/HLo)
I didn't know Raul was in the muslim brotherhood.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at December 18, 2014 01:47 PM (V70Ne)
More and "easier" chicks?
Posted by: Fox 2! at December 18, 2014 01:40 PM (brIR5)
It was a pretty hard-core science school, so not many chicks generally speaking, but what there were tended to be there.
Although in his case, he switched majors out of self-preservation. He was trying to pull out onto the track at Indy in a Trabant, but fortunately had the sense to realize that and pull back into the pits.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:47 PM (oKE6c)
As one of the apparently few libertarian/conservative professors here with tenure now, let me tell you that it is not as bad a situation as it apparently looks. There are more conservatives in Hollywood than apparent and similarly more conservatives in academia. However, just like Hollywood, there are very few outspoken conservatives due to job issues. Even with tenure, you can run afoul of the new clerisy--e.g. see what happened to a tenured professor at Marquette who dared to criticize an instructor who sought indoctrination as a goal.
One reason to muffle your oars, so to speak, is that most of us do not want grief from SJWs nor to raise the attention of administrators. Many conservatives in academia, such as myself, focus on the more technical aspects of social science that involve fairly advanced statistical models, copious data gathering, etc. that does emulate the process that natural sciences do. Remember publish or perish--so what you do is focus on statistics, methodology, and relatively non-controversial technical areas of social science. It bores and confuses the SJW's. At all costs, avoid direct confrontations over hot button issues--you won't persuade the unpersuadable and get blacklisted for your troubles.
However, dealing with human volition, the extreme difficulty in doing true experimental control studies, and bounded rationality, leave us with a very probabilistic science which means confirmation bias is a real problem. As I practice it, you have to be very skeptical that you have found any effect at all and modest in interpreting any such effect.
Fortunately, my particular academic discipline lets me indoctrinate students about rigorous research, debunk bad research (which coincidentally often involves liberal hobbyhorses, espouse conservative/libertarian thoughts of others for "balance", and generally highlight current controversies in a fair and even handed manner. I discourage the use of talking points in class and rigid orthodoxies that substitute slogans for thought and require essay exams for even freshman level classes. My Intro to Govt class involved DeTocqueville, the Federalist Papers, the U.S. Constitution, and constitutional law that sets forth the foundation of the U.S. I also involve the history of Western Civilization and then such institutions as the rule of law within the English tradition. I spend little time on the discipline of political science but a lot of time on why our institutions were created in such a way and how they operate now. I also require students to engage in a budget simulation where the future of our republic is at stake.
Ideally, I want my students to think--not indoctrinate them but I make it clear that I value ALL of the Constitution, liberty, and its design to prevent government tyranny.
Would have a lot more but have to go do some paperwork and btw pickup a P14 Enfield receiver for my next build project.
Thanks Ace for this forum to let off some steam occasionally.
Posted by: wg at December 18, 2014 01:47 PM (egDro)
They better replace all of the holiday decorations with Che posters.
Posted by: Nobel Committee at December 18, 2014 01:48 PM (XzRw1)
Not that there's anything wrong with it.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2014 01:40 PM (0LHZx)
Moo Moo is right.
I was on the board of one club for a number of years, and we all insisted that the gate guard not only keep the riff raff out, but he should shoot them on sight.
You've got to send a message.
Posted by: jwest at December 18, 2014 01:48 PM (vwlGK)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 01:46 PM (Zmw74)
This just in: the World Boxing Association is merging with the NHL, and now will feature rings covered in ice.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:48 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Nobel Committee at December 18, 2014 01:48 PM (XzRw1)
This allows them a couple essential progressive conceits. History is simply everything that failed. They are the enlightened ones with all the answers. History shows above all that every time a society had assurances about the way things would be generations ahead, events kicked them in the ass and proved them to be arrogant fools.
So, it's essential to a progressive to either ignore or distort history. History promotes humility, and you can be modest or humble if you want to advance a progressive agenda.
Posted by: Dave S. at December 18, 2014 01:49 PM (5Ezu/)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 18, 2014 01:49 PM (XzRw1)
No wonder I can't get in.
A friend of mine (conservative) lives in a gated community, which he hates but his neighbors (all chi-chi liberals) insist on keeping it gated. I joke with him that the gate is intended to keep out the scum, but I got in anyway.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:50 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 18, 2014 01:51 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2014 01:51 PM (zOTsN)
The NHL Announces It's Going Carbon Nuetral To Save Planet From Globull Warmening.
Ice Will No Longer Be Frozen.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:30 PM (BPT9g)
I still say that the Jabberwocky episode of Better Off Ted had the single best take on companies going green.
"Are you working towards all your dreams, Ted?"
*adds stuff to shrine to Veronica*
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 18, 2014 01:51 PM (mf5HN)
Economics. Why? Money doesn't lie. Say what you want, your theory doesn't work because the money doesn't work. You are dead.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2014 01:51 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Dave S. at December 18, 2014 01:52 PM (5Ezu/)
Posted by: kbdabear at December 18, 2014 01:52 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at December 18, 2014 12:25 PM (kn2nB)
You're losing it, Hector. Maybe you should spit instead of swallow.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2014 01:52 PM (8Fl6F)
So, it's essential to a progressive to either ignore or distort history. History promotes humility, and you can be modest or humble if you want to advance a progressive agenda.
Posted by: Dave S. at December 18, 2014 01:49 PM (5Ezu/)
Hubris ain't just for the ancient Greeks. It's important to know what you don't know, which is why nitwits evince the Dunning-Kruger effect, viz., being too stupid/ignorant not to realize how stupid/ignorant they actually are.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:52 PM (oKE6c)
Wednesday is my night at the club......
the strip club.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 18, 2014 01:43 PM (l3vZN
..............................................
Ah the nudie bar,
Posted by: Al Bundy at December 18, 2014 01:52 PM (HSmrB)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 18, 2014 01:52 PM (lHb9q)
Just out of curiosity, anyone here belong to a country club?
Well, yes I do, two and two hunt clubs and a fishing club.
It's good to have money.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2014 01:53 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 01:54 PM (v5UtH)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at December 18, 2014 01:55 PM (XzRw1)
No. Ice is made by using energy to move heat elsewhere, which always results in more overall heat. (2nd Law of Thermodynamics)
Posted by: Russian Pilot at December 18, 2014 01:56 PM (0NdlF)
Well, if Keith Olbermann did, why not her? Hillary Clinton's campaigning, so are Bush and Romney... it's Retread Year!
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 01:56 PM (lZ1M5)
Posted by: CM at December 18, 2014 01:56 PM (0NdlF)
seems to be working. Any other suggestions? Please be specific, this is
my job, you know, and I take my work seriously.
--------------------------
We're all real big fans of Jeb Bush and really hate it when someone disparages him. In fact, sometimes we come unglued.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 18, 2014 01:56 PM (KFdZd)
Posted by: Rosie Registered Struktural Injineer at December 18, 2014 01:57 PM (dlIgS)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 01:57 PM (Zmw74)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2014 01:51 PM (0FSuD)
It's not that simple. Nobel Prizes for economics have been given to people with diametrically opposed views (e.g., Keynesians vs. monetarists). At least one of those groups is full of crap.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:57 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 01:57 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 01:57 PM (lZ1M5)
No. Ice is made by using energy to move heat elsewhere, which always results in more overall heat. (2nd Law of Thermodynamics)
After 6' of snow, move the heat to Buffalo.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:58 PM (BPT9g)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:58 PM (oKE6c)
Aren't you a dentist?!
"WHY THE F*CK AREN'T YOU FLOSSING?!?!"
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 01:59 PM (lZ1M5)
Weasel Zippers
SOFT Power
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 01:59 PM (Zmw74)
Isn't that what patients are for?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:59 PM (BPT9g)
Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2014 02:00 PM (v5UtH)
Posted by: gn at December 18, 2014 02:00 PM (lvww9)
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:00 PM (lZ1M5)
have been given to people with diametrically opposed views (e.g.,
Keynesians vs. monetarists). At least one of those groups is full of
crap.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:57 PM (oKE6c)
Nobel prizes now are liberal political prizes, aka Obama.
It's clear that despite what liberals want to believe, Keynesian does not work. Friedman proved it over and over and over.
Wishing something works doesn't mean it does. If so FDR's new deal would have gotten us out of the depression. It made it worse
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2014 02:01 PM (0FSuD)
Where the music stinks and they water the drinks, the nudie bar...
Posted by: Al Bundy at December 18, 2014 02:01 PM (HSmrB)
No. Ice is made by using energy to move heat elsewhere, which always results in more overall heat. (2nd Law of Thermodynamics)
Posted by: Russian Pilot at December 18, 2014 01:56 PM (0NdlF)
----
Why . . . hello there Cliff Claven. Tell Woody, Carla, Sam and the rest of the crew at Cheers hello for me....
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2014 02:01 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at December 18, 2014 02:01 PM (Jk/zI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 01:59 PM (Zmw74)
Which leaves them, of course, as "The State of Iraq and Syria".
Way to telegraph that desired outcome, Barry
Posted by: Secundus at December 18, 2014 02:02 PM (lZ1M5)
Isn't that what patients are for?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2014 01:59 PM (BPT9g)
Yeah it's not my patients. It's the Landlord whom I sold the building to, The dipshit tenants he is renting to, the town I am in, the cops in the town I am in, and Yada Yada Yada
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2014 02:02 PM (Zmw74)
Where you see their butt and their trap stays shut,, the nudie bar...
Posted by: Al Bundy at December 18, 2014 02:02 PM (HSmrB)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 18, 2014 01:57 PM
Always makes me laugh. I first ran across Lenny Henry in Chef!, but a lot of his earlier stuff is comedy gold.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 18, 2014 02:02 PM (knoK7)
http://bit.ly/1GvQRUe
Posted by: MTF at December 18, 2014 02:03 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: Jean at December 18, 2014 02:03 PM (TETYm)
What a fucking joke. The GDP of Russia is less than CA.
Think about that. Without oil and nukes Russia would be Turkey.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2014 02:04 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Jack D. Ripper at December 18, 2014 02:04 PM (/Ho8c)
Nood...
Posted by: Al Bundy at December 18, 2014 02:04 PM (HSmrB)
It's clear that despite what liberals want to believe, Keynesian does not work. Friedman proved it over and over and over.
Wishing something works doesn't mean it does. If so FDR's new deal would have gotten us out of the depression. It made it worse
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2014 02:01 PM (0FSuD)
That was kind of my point: economics as a discipline doesn't have the same sort of objective reality of physics, chemistry, or (to a lesser extent) medicine/physiology. Nobody gets a Nobel Prize for pushing phlogiston, or cold fusion, and then someone else get one for debunking it.
Economics entails a lot of opinion, rather than objective fact. There are objective facts (e.g., output numbers, etc.), but what led to those facts is a matter of opinion.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:06 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2014 02:04 PM (0FSuD)
Russia is Mexico with nuclear weapons and a space program.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:07 PM (oKE6c)
I would like to walk up to her and say, "Susan J. Douglas, I hate you. Not because you're a Democrat, although that's reason enough, but because your are a stupid, evil cunt."
And no, I won't apologize for using that word in this context. Because you know it's true.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2014 01:39 PM (8Fl6F)
I am intrigued by your views and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2014 02:08 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: MTF
Why not? He already proved that he didn't really care about the dems in Congress. And he and his faction seem to hate the Clintons. Now he gets to be a cheap version of Clinton. Anything that goes wrong is due to the rethug majority. Anything that goes right is due to him.
Gore went to Kyoto in 1993 for the original bullshit global warming treaty, which clinton didn't even try to end to the Senate. There's no real difference here.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 18, 2014 02:09 PM (Spluw)
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Posted by: I Loathe Silence Sensually at December 18, 2014 02:09 PM (xkSSa)
Russia is Mexico with nuclear weapons and a space program.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:07 PM (oKE6c)
To be fair, Mexico's space program is moving along nicely.
http://tinyurl.com/o9lvsrq
Posted by: RWC - Ahinilater of Worlds at December 18, 2014 02:13 PM (fWAjv)
That was kind of my point: economics as a discipline doesn't have the same sort of objective reality of physics, chemistry, or (to a lesser extent) medicine/physiology. Nobody gets a Nobel Prize for pushing phlogiston, or cold fusion, and then someone else get one for debunking it.
Economics entails a lot of opinion, rather than objective fact. There are objective facts (e.g., output numbers, etc.), but what led to those facts is a matter of opinion.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 02:06 PM (oKE6c)
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Leftists gravitate to the areas where truth can be more easily distorted.
Posted by: Dave S. at December 18, 2014 02:15 PM (5Ezu/)
So in light of the UofM stupidity, I suggest that congress add a whole lot of "None of these funds" clauses to any Education budget they decide to pass. Ideally they'd kill Education funding all together, but baby steps.
Posted by: Iblis at December 18, 2014 02:22 PM (9221z)
her. She tilted her head and went "what does a TA do for this class? I
taught undergrads 150 at a time without a TA."
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at December 18, 2014 01:18 PM (HDwDg)
Yow. What a waste of time, unless she had nothing else to do. For freshman classes (ca. 300 enrollment) I used to have a dozen TAs, first to supervise labs so the darlings didn't maim themselves, and second to grade exams. My teaching time was spent preparing lectures (at several hours per), giving the lectures, and writing the exams.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 18, 2014 01:28 PM (oKE6c)
Yep. 550 students, 9 TA's 1 head TA. I did insist that all exams were graded at one time so I ordered a few pizzas and six packs and we all spent 6-8 hours in my office grading. I always took one page. Chinese grad students would always give excuses to get out of grading - group meeting was the most common one. My response: No problem, I'll just call your PI and tell him your TA assignment has you grading now. He'll understand as he put you on TA and not RA. The threat of me having to bother their PI would always shut them up.
Now: small Christian university. Much nicer environment.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 18, 2014 02:55 PM (O3k74)
I have something for Susan that will pacifer her hatred.
Heh.
Posted by: Well endowed OSU Grad at December 18, 2014 02:58 PM (+ax+g)
- says womyn-Prof "I hate Republicans".
Well, aint that the pot calling the kettle, ... er, African American.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at December 18, 2014 03:15 PM (wT9UL)
Killing most social sciences at universities would be an excellent way
to clean some of the most flagrant of this crap up. Cut public funding
for communications, sociology, gender studies, much of anthropology and
anything that doesn't serve a vocational or classical liberal arts
purpose."
True. They are useless, and as dangerous as funding Taliban Madrasses. Actually the concept is similar - feed student lies and garbage in an ideology centered on hate for American Christian values.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at December 18, 2014 03:17 PM (wT9UL)
1. Racism exists
2. America is majority white
And then you run wild with it.
Example: A black tenured famous professor is in a social situation
with a white, poor, non-famous, non-connected freshman who attends his
class. SJW's will say the person with the "power" in this relationship
is the freshman.
Huh?"
Behold - they are 'anti-racist' by holding on to a racist concept that groups all whites together into one group, rather than treat them as individuals. Then they take cherry-picked anecdotes - ("Black first lady asked to be helpful! Oh, the horror!") - to turn that into 'privilege'.
My privilege as a white person in college was to not get any affirmative action acceptances, not get access to the women/minority scholarships that were on offer ... and make it my own way.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at December 18, 2014 03:22 PM (wT9UL)
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