How About a Non-Boomer Candidate for 2016?

Look, the Boomers have run the country now since 1993, and, well, look at the place. It's a mess.

Their fiscal wreckage is being left to Generation X and my own to clean up- generations they continue to leave the bill for while gorging themselves like so many Creosotes. Why give them another four years? Why not take a wafer-thin mint to the whole lot, at least this one time?

I made this argument, not very seriously, on Twitter the other day, but it really got me thinking since.

Who would both parties be left with as possible contenders in 2016 if we eliminated every candidate born after January 1 1965 and before the debut of MTV?

Yeah, there are a few favorites on the left, but there's a parade of terribles that come with 'em.

Really, which set of choices would you rather pick from?

Note: the exact starting point for Gen X isn't exactly agreed upon. I'm using The Harvard Center's defined period from 1965 to 1984.

Posted by: CAC at 05:08 PM

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1 Walker 2016

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 05:12 PM (CpRK8)

2 Basically only Walker on that list for me.

Posted by: HoboJerk, The State Loves You at December 16, 2014 05:13 PM (FA3Z7)

3 I'd settle for a candidate that doesn't suck statist cock.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2014 05:13 PM (TG6EC)

4 If you're going to get 'boomers' you need to go back to 1960-61.

Posted by: JEM at December 16, 2014 05:13 PM (o+SC1)

5 Walker and his Throne of Skulls.

Posted by: Mark in Sandy Ut at December 16, 2014 05:13 PM (xGX1p)

6 Walker, Baby, FTW!

Posted by: Mr. Natural at December 16, 2014 05:14 PM (/pOl7)

7 Walker ...

If there were a lieutenant governor out there named "Texas Ranger" they should be veep. On general principle.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 16, 2014 05:14 PM (4CVLy)

8 Vlad Dracula. He's not a boomer.

Posted by: pep at December 16, 2014 05:14 PM (4nR9/)

9 Before. Not after!

Posted by: Pecos at December 16, 2014 05:15 PM (2Gb0y)

10 Cruz or Walker, that's all.

Posted by: Carol at December 16, 2014 05:15 PM (sj3Ax)

11 Cruz Missile FTW.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 16, 2014 05:15 PM (0HooB)

12 Walker.

From his throne made from the skulls of his enemies.

Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 05:15 PM (Rx8ML)

13 The "young" Dem demographic is really that small?

Color me surprised.

Posted by: junior at December 16, 2014 05:15 PM (UWFpX)

14 Don't see Bobby Jindal on either side of that list.

Posted by: SDN at December 16, 2014 05:15 PM (Ao5fh)

15 For now, Perry is still my man.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 16, 2014 05:16 PM (2+nRx)

16

Two questions:

1. Where's Jindal?

2. Why is the late Abe Vigoda on that list?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 16, 2014 05:16 PM (6ndas)

17 How can a proven failure like Fiorina make any list? She's blown up everything she's touched.

But yes, from the right column, Walker then Haley.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 16, 2014 05:16 PM (vgIRn)

18 _

You voted for her with your palm,
Now vote for her with your finger,

Nikki Haley 2016.
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 16, 2014 05:16 PM (4CVLy)

19 OTOH, Gillibrand is fairly easy on the eyes, and that is, after all, the primary consideration.

Posted by: pep at December 16, 2014 05:16 PM (4nR9/)

20 "Really, which set of choices would you rather pick from?"

The one with Walker and Cruz. Would be a shame to lose Walker to the feds, but our Lt. Gov, Rebecca Kleefisch would be a fine replacement.

Posted by: Petrus at December 16, 2014 05:16 PM (/Jdm6)

21 Walker/Haley.

That's how it works.

Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 05:16 PM (Rx8ML)

22 It's about that time that fool shows up.

Posted by: Carol at December 16, 2014 05:17 PM (sj3Ax)

23 Scott Walker and Nikki Haley look good to me.

Posted by: Decaf at December 16, 2014 05:17 PM (lIPFl)

24 And you notice the Paulbots have Rand Paul on that list twice?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 05:17 PM (CpRK8)

25 Haley would be OK too. Easy on the eyes. Smart. Takes no crap.

Posted by: Mr. Natural at December 16, 2014 05:17 PM (/pOl7)

26 Generation X will save the world. I truly believe that. Gen X does not have the votes to be selfish. Gen X will make the hard sacrifices that the Boomers did not. We have no choice. We can't save ourselves, we simply do not have the votes. Gen X will produce the leaders that will lead millenials. If it isn't this election, it will be within the next 8 years.

Posted by: SH at December 16, 2014 05:18 PM (gmeXX)

27 Viva Antonio Villaraigoso!

HE CLEANS OUR TOILETS!!!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2014 05:18 PM (8ZskC)

28 Brian Schweitzer? Who the hell is he?

Ed Rendell? Corruptocrat please.

Posted by: pep at December 16, 2014 05:18 PM (4nR9/)

29 Where are Cruz and Jindal?

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 16, 2014 05:18 PM (cF5pp)

30

Wow.

Very nice.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Joyfully doing Christmas stuff. at December 16, 2014 05:18 PM (IXrOn)

31 T-Bone's buddy on the shortlist!

Posted by: Baldy at December 16, 2014 05:18 PM (+35FH)

32 I love Jindal but I honestly don't think he has charisma to connect to country.

Posted by: Carol at December 16, 2014 05:18 PM (sj3Ax)

33 Wiki says:

>>Piyush "Bobby" Jindal (born June 10, 1971)

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 16, 2014 05:19 PM (0xTsz)

34 Mmmm...nice new thread smell. Roomy, too. *stretches*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2014 05:19 PM (knoK7)

35 Who would both parties be left with as possible contenders in 2016 if we eliminated every candidate born ~~after~~ before January 1 1965?
=========================

fixed.

I'd be in favor of putting The Worst Generation out to pasture. Seriously, our generation has just screwed up the world to a fair-thee-well.

Posted by: MTF at December 16, 2014 05:19 PM (6um35)

36 I'd kill to see a Nikki Haley / Elizabeth Warren contest.

I'd pay for the billboard:

DOT, NOT FEATHER: Haley 2016.

_

Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 16, 2014 05:19 PM (4CVLy)

37 I like Haley.

Posted by: NCKate at December 16, 2014 05:19 PM (FPQut)

38 Who would both parties be left with as possible contenders in 2016 if we
eliminated every candidate born after January 1 1965 and before the
debut of MTV?

Shouldn't there be a "not" in there before the word born? Or am I confused as to what you're asking?

Posted by: Weirddave at December 16, 2014 05:19 PM (KAmzK)

39 What about SMOD?

I mean, way pre-65, but definitely a Boomer.

Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 05:19 PM (Rx8ML)

40

They could always accessorize with a walker or a tint of grey hair, here or there.

Or, a peace pipe.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Joyfully doing Christmas stuff. at December 16, 2014 05:19 PM (IXrOn)

41 No to Rubio or Ryan.

Posted by: Carol at December 16, 2014 05:19 PM (sj3Ax)

42 Where are Cruz and Jindal?

Cruz is there, Jindal not so much.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 16, 2014 05:20 PM (0HooB)

43 32
I love Jindal but I honestly don't think he has charisma to connect to country.

Don't worry, we've got this.

Posted by: Medical transplant science at December 16, 2014 05:20 PM (4nR9/)

44 This fantasy is already moot since Jeb Amnesty Bush has thrown his hat into the ring.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 16, 2014 05:20 PM (8HdOX)

45 Will the real Rand Paul please stand up.

Posted by: @votermom at December 16, 2014 05:20 PM (DoyT0)

46 Can we just elect Palin's boobs?
Right can be prez, left can be vice prez

Posted by: Navpopojoe at December 16, 2014 05:20 PM (MaUQj)

47 I prefer to use the Fourth Turning definition of Generation X, which is a birth date after 1961.

I am also too lazy to update that list to see how it would change.

And I agree with SH...it's up to us don't-give-a-shit Gen Xers to pull this thing out of the hole.

Posted by: jakeman at December 16, 2014 05:20 PM (Wq40h)

48 Does Scott Walker have a dog? That could be his running mate!

Posted by: Vox.com at December 16, 2014 05:20 PM (Nfdkj)

49 I like that list!

Walker/Cruz, for the win! Or Walker/Haley!

Posted by: Dianna at December 16, 2014 05:20 PM (DV/Ik)

50 Should Jindel be on that list?

Posted by: maddogg at December 16, 2014 05:20 PM (xWW96)

51 19 OTOH, Gillibrand is fairly easy on the eyes, and that is, after all, the primary consideration.
Posted by: pep at December 16, 2014 05:16 PM (4nR9/)

She's a little to chubby for my tastes.

Posted by: Senator Cornelius Strawman at December 16, 2014 05:20 PM (+Fae7)

52 Yeah, found Ted on second skim.

Trey Gowdy?

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 16, 2014 05:21 PM (cF5pp)

53 We all know that the older crowd has all the money and there is no way they will let go the reins of power. It's just the way the world works and always has.

Posted by: Decaf at December 16, 2014 05:21 PM (lIPFl)

54 Bob Dole had a Non-Boomer. Bob Dole booms every day now!

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 16, 2014 05:21 PM (2cS/G)

55 And I agree with SH...it's up to us don't-give-a-shit Gen Xers to pull this thing out of the hole.

Posted by: jakeman

Oh, G-d! Y'all are well and truly fcuked now if you're depending on us.

Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 16, 2014 05:21 PM (/Ho8c)

56 DOT, NOT FEATHER: Haley 2016.

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Posted by: BumperStickerist

That would be just awesome. Plus, Nikki has better sweater puppies. Then again, so do I.

Posted by: pep at December 16, 2014 05:21 PM (4nR9/)

57 Sounds a little ageist to me. What do you think Mr. Reagan?

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 16, 2014 05:22 PM (3jmxp)

58 Old age and treachery vs youth and skill.
We know how that ends.

Posted by: @votermom at December 16, 2014 05:22 PM (DoyT0)

59 I prefer to use the Fourth Turning definition of Generation X, which is a birth date after 1961.

I am also too lazy to update that list to see how it would change.

And I agree with SH...it's up to us don't-give-a-shit Gen Xers to pull this thing out of the hole.

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My definition of Gen X is that you had to have spent part of High School in the 1980's.

Posted by: SH at December 16, 2014 05:22 PM (gmeXX)

60 Um don't you mean selected instead of eliminated?

Posted by: Maetenloch at December 16, 2014 05:22 PM (pAlYe)

61 And Shrillary will throw her hat into the ring if she has to do it from the grave.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 16, 2014 05:22 PM (8HdOX)

62 Silly silly plebes, thinking this is YOUR decision...

Posted by: G. Mossburger at December 16, 2014 05:23 PM (TOk1P)

63 []51
19 OTOH, Gillibrand is fairly easy on the eyes, and that is, after all, the primary consideration.

Posted by: pep at December 16, 2014 05:16 PM (4nR9/)

She's a little to chubby for my tastes.

Posted by: Senator Cornelius Strawman

I did say "fairly". Plus, standards change after 50.

Posted by: pep at December 16, 2014 05:23 PM (4nR9/)

64 On the one hand, Donald Trump clearly belongs in the left hand column, but his hairpiece is squarely on the right.

Decisions, decisions.

Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2014 05:23 PM (dVmLD)

65 Dark Skin, Not Redskin . Haley 2016

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 16, 2014 05:23 PM (3jmxp)

66 Oh, G-d! Y'all are well and truly fcuked now if you're depending on us.

It's precisely because we've been fscked over every step of the way, T. Jeff. Let's hope payback is a beeotch.

On the other hand, it might be in our nature to LIB.

Posted by: jakeman at December 16, 2014 05:23 PM (Wq40h)

67 DOT, NOT FEATHER: Haley 2016.

_
Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 16, 2014 05:19 PM (4CVLy)

SIKH YE FIRST?

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 16, 2014 05:23 PM (vgIRn)

68 No More Senators! All they do is talk. By and large they have zero management or administrative experience. I want someone who knows how to make a decision, not just talk, talk, talk......

Posted by: Mr. Natural at December 16, 2014 05:23 PM (/pOl7)

69 Can you feel the Joe-mentum?

Seriously, I want to see how the Dem primary shapes up. Imagine the excitement of Hillary, Biden, Warren, O'Malley, Cuomo all in the scrum.

Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 05:24 PM (Rx8ML)

70 Palin is at least 15 years younger than her biological age.
Science!

Posted by: @votermom at December 16, 2014 05:24 PM (2bVrC)

71 61
And Shrillary will throw her hat into the ring if she has to do it from the grave.

Posted by: GnuBreed

It's weird. Hillary seems to have gone from inevitable and unstoppable to yesterday's newsprint without anyone really noticing.

Posted by: pep at December 16, 2014 05:24 PM (4nR9/)

72 DOT, NOT FEATHER:

Racist!

Posted by: Elizabeth "Three Wolf Moon" Warren at December 16, 2014 05:24 PM (8ZskC)

73 I take insult to listing Boomers as born before 1965.

The baby boom was AFTER WWII. That would mean no one is a boomer that was born any later that 1958.

Give me a break. 1965? Fuck most boomers were graduating from HS then.

Vic told me about this.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2014 05:24 PM (0FSuD)

74 I like it - No Boomers in 2016!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2014 05:25 PM (ABcz/)

75 Cruz/Halley for the win.

Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 16, 2014 05:25 PM (XzRw1)

76 A few solid bonks to the head and some people stop taking you seriously. It isn't fair.

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at December 16, 2014 05:25 PM (8ZskC)

77 It's precisely because we've been fscked over every step of the way, T. Jeff. Let's hope payback is a beeotch.

On the other hand, it might be in our nature to LIB.

Posted by: jakeman

Twill be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Did I say interesting? I meant mostly depressing, with just a hint of terrifying.

Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 16, 2014 05:26 PM (/Ho8c)

78 75
Cruz/Halley for the win.

Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP[/i}

Well, if we're considering heavenly bodies, I nominate Sophie Marceau.

Posted by: pep at December 16, 2014 05:26 PM (4nR9/)

79 It's weird. Hillary seems to have gone from inevitable and unstoppable to yesterday's newsprint without anyone really noticing.

Rape culture is killing her. All the bimbo eruption stuff, plus she ACTUALLY DEFENDED A RAPIST. And laughed about it.

Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 05:26 PM (Rx8ML)

Posted by: pep at December 16, 2014 05:26 PM (4nR9/)

81 If you've read The Fourth Turning, and every card-carrying Moron should, I'd stick with "terrifying," T. Jeff.

Posted by: jakeman at December 16, 2014 05:27 PM (Wq40h)

82 Soon...

Posted by: The Barrel at December 16, 2014 05:27 PM (/Ho8c)

83 Whew, barrel avoided.

Posted by: pep at December 16, 2014 05:27 PM (4nR9/)

84 Kristen Gillenbrand did the Lena Dunham thing and claimed she was a victim because she, too, was sexually harassed. Wouldn't provide a name, so it was probably a Democrat. Think she's one of the leaders of Congress getting involved in campus rape culture legislation.

No more of these broads and their imaginary victimhood, please.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2014 05:27 PM (ABcz/)

85 I prefer to use the Fourth Turning definition of Generation X, which is a birth date after 1961.

Bing Baby Boom Generation. I've seen dates all over the map from '61 to '64.

Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 05:27 PM (kW1lr)

86 Rape culture is killing her. All the bimbo eruption stuff, plus she ACTUALLY DEFENDED A RAPIST. And laughed about it.

Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 05:26 PM (Rx8ML)

Damn bitch is tough

Posted by: Rape Culture at December 16, 2014 05:27 PM (84oau)

87 Soon

Posted by: Oberlin College grads at December 16, 2014 05:27 PM (FsuaD)

88 BTW, I wasn't trying to pick on the Democrats here. But they have no Governors younger than 50 right now. A few handfuls of Congressmen and women and Senators younger.

Most of the Democrats' star power is locked up with the Boomers.

Posted by: Brandon Finnigan at December 16, 2014 05:28 PM (HfX3I)

89 Oh, G-d! Y'all are well and truly fcuked now if you're depending on us.
Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 16, 2014 05:21 PM (/Ho8c)

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No, I don't think so. The reason is this. Gen X never truly experienced any of the negative experiences, such as Vietnam/Watergate. We did experience the positive and optimistic experience of Reagan and winning the Cold War. Therefore our experience of America from our youth, is in general a positive one. We know how great America can be.

Our generation is the first to not really expect Social Security. Our generation for the most part paid for college and did not expect a collegiate handout.

Finally, our generation cannot be selfish because we do not have the votes to screw over the generation ahead or behind us. We know we will have to make sacrafices. The next generation will force us to make them. But we can better force them to take the same punishment. If they don't have to support us, we can truly change the system.

I really believe it will be Gen X that saves America. Patton and Marshall and his generation led the next one in battle. We will do the same. The millenials will get the credit just as the Greatest Generation gets their due credit. But the GG was led by exceptional leaders produced from the prior generation who saw America win a war.

Gen X will produce the same. There may not be an actual war (then again maybe there will and maybe we are in it). But we will save the day.

Posted by: SH at December 16, 2014 05:28 PM (gmeXX)

90 Sophie Marceau

Oh my. Yes, I would vote for her.

Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 16, 2014 05:28 PM (XzRw1)

91 Kristen Gillenbrand did the Lena Dunham thing and claimed she was a
victim because she, too, was sexually harassed. Wouldn't provide a name,
so it was probably a Democrat. Think she's one of the leaders of
Congress getting involved in campus rape culture legislation.

I thought she'd ID'd him as Daniel Inouye.

Posted by: pep at December 16, 2014 05:28 PM (4nR9/)

92 @84 didn't she finally own up to it being a dead guy, right?

Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 05:28 PM (Rx8ML)

93 @84 didn't she finally own up to it being a dead guy, right?

Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 05:28 PM (Rx8ML)

94 Can we nominate one of the horde?

Posted by: flounder at December 16, 2014 05:28 PM (sDapq)

95

What is the result with a Sabo tattoo filter?*

Cruz!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Joyfully doing Christmas stuff. at December 16, 2014 05:28 PM (IXrOn)

96
Am I the only one who sees that Jeb Bush was played like a flute? He was totes conned into running; goaded, if you will

First, the rumors. The rumors were completely fabricated. The rumors were then substantiated by the talking heads who are paid to make things up on CNN and FOX.

This, by design, caused Jeb Bush to say to himself gee, I really have a shot?

And thus a doomed-from-the-start presidential candidate is born.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 16, 2014 05:29 PM (6ndas)

97 Terrifying, huh? Duly noted.

Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 16, 2014 05:29 PM (/Ho8c)

98 Cruz tied with Walker. Then Jindal.

Posted by: L, elle at December 16, 2014 05:29 PM (oqhrS)

99 >>I thought she'd ID'd him as Daniel Inouye.

Oh, right. A dead guy so he can't defend himself.
Ugh.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2014 05:29 PM (ABcz/)

100 I don't give a crap about generational affiliation.

What I'm tired of are goddamned arrogant Ivy Leaguers.

Last non-Ivy president of the USA was Ronaldus Maximus, a graduate of Eureka College, and as far as I'm concerned, not one of his successors -- Ivy alumni across the board -- have been fit to shine his shoes.

Note that this puts my support for Ted Cruz in jeopardy. So be it. If it comes down to a Walker vs Cruz decision in the primaries, I'll likely break for Walker simply because I am so thoroughly fed up with this Ivy crap.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 16, 2014 05:30 PM (noWW6)

101 A few handfuls of Congressmen and women and Senators younger.

**cough, Handsful**

Posted by: OCD grammar Nazi at December 16, 2014 05:30 PM (4nR9/)

102 It does no good to try to divide people up into age blocks. "Boomers" is an artificial construct created by the lying jackasses in the MFM.

Keep in mind that it was largely these same "boomers" went off to Vietnam. The so-called hippy boomers really did not exist to any large extent. I even went down to the "famous" Haight-Ashbury cross-roads to see them. Nobody there but winos and bums pissing in the street.

No generation is really significantly different from the others when you look at the overall group. You have a few assholes, you have mainly normal middle of the road people, and you have really good achievers. IOW a bell curve.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 05:30 PM (u9gzs)

103 You have to be 40 to be President, so you would only be selecting candidates born from 1965 to January 20, 1977.

Posted by: CQD at December 16, 2014 05:30 PM (lyiq0)

104 The Gen-Xers will need the donations...and the votes...of the Boomers, in order to win.

So it's a bad idea to alienate them.

I'm still rooting for Rick Perry. He's the only one on that list who is a Veteran...and he has the best resume of executive experience in office.

Posted by: wheatie at December 16, 2014 05:31 PM (Dlofw)

105 Most of the Democrats' star power is locked up with the Boomers.

Posted by: Brandon Finnigan at December 16, 2014 05:28 PM (HfX3I)

The Dems are much better at message discipline, respect for seniority, and sublimation of personal desires for the good of the party.

So success takes a bit of time......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2014 05:31 PM (Zu3d9)

106 No boomers. Put that shit to rest.

Posted by: Feh at December 16, 2014 05:31 PM (dP/1B)

107 Didn't she finally own up to it being a dead guy, right?

ALWAYS blame "the dead guy".

Posted by: tu3031 at December 16, 2014 05:31 PM (i0wGQ)

108
Do you know who starts all these pres candidate rumors?

The professional campaign managers. The more pols run, the better chance the campaign managers have in getting hired.

It's all bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 16, 2014 05:31 PM (6ndas)

109 ot
Obama and his state dept. released the 2nd in command of the Pakistan Taliban from US custody just last week.
The same ones that committed the massacre today.

http://tinyurl.com/oncqx2f

Posted by: navybrat at December 16, 2014 05:31 PM (JgC5a)

110 Posted by: Brandon Finnigan at December 16, 2014 05:28 PM (HfX3I

CAC,

Firstly off congrats from one father to be to another.

Second: of course it's locked up in the boomers. Have you seen XKCD's Christmas music chart? Every Christmas is an attempt to recreate the boomers childhoods.

Every political candidate a chance to appeal to boomers.
etc etc. etc.

Frankly until they start to die off, I think we're stuck with them controlling the levers (and voting themselves more and more free shit.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 3 (short) weeks! at December 16, 2014 05:31 PM (HDwDg)

111 Am I the only one who sees that Jeb Bush was played like a flute?

Yes, a meat flute.

Posted by: Rove at December 16, 2014 05:31 PM (XzRw1)

112 I eat paste. That makes me young.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 16, 2014 05:31 PM (+LXO6)

113 Hillary is old news. And just plain old.
And incompetent. Really hard to miss that after her stint a Sec. of State.
And no one wants to listen to that grating voice for 4 - 8 years. It's a killer.

And yeah, oodles of baggage. Why invite that circus back into the WH?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2014 05:31 PM (ABcz/)

114
Campaign managers and campaign consultants, I should've said.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 16, 2014 05:31 PM (6ndas)

115 I prefer to use the Fourth Turning definition of Generation X, which is a birth date after 1961.

Bing Baby Boom Generation. I've seen dates all over the map from '61 to '64.

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Generations shouldn't be any more than 10 years apart. It should be about shared experiences in youth. The oldest members of the Boomers worried about Vietnam. The youngest ones worried about disco. There is a difference. They may both be classified as Boomers, but from shared cultural perspective they are quite different.

Posted by: SH at December 16, 2014 05:32 PM (gmeXX)

116 *peeks in*

*sees circular firing squad forming*

*leaves*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2014 05:32 PM (FsuaD)

117 111 Am I the only one who sees that Jeb Bush was played like a flute?

Yes, a meat flute.

Posted by: Rove at December 16, 2014 05:31 PM (XzRw1)

a delicious, delicious meat flute

Posted by: Bumbles at December 16, 2014 05:32 PM (84oau)

118

Mamma mia, that's a spicy meatball time!

Ciao.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Joyfully doing Christmas stuff. at December 16, 2014 05:32 PM (IXrOn)

119 25 Haley would be OK too. Easy on the eyes. Smart. Takes no crap.
Posted by: Mr. Natural at December 16, 2014 05:17 PM (/pOl7)

Sacred honor compels me to admit I had an affair with her.

Posted by: Will Folks at December 16, 2014 05:33 PM (+Fae7)

120 I understand Jeb running. Daddy and little brother can raise fast campaign cash and give him a way to run in the primaries.

What I do not understand are these fck'n idiots doling out cash to Santorum and the Huck.

Posted by: L, elle at December 16, 2014 05:33 PM (oqhrS)

121 119 25 Haley would be OK too. Easy on the eyes. Smart. Takes no crap.
Posted by: Mr. Natural at December 16, 2014 05:17 PM (/pOl7)

Sacred honor compels me to admit I had an affair with her.
Posted by: Will Folks at December 16, 2014 05:33 PM

I had sex with her, in her vagina.

Posted by: Larry Marchant at December 16, 2014 05:33 PM (+Fae7)

122 Am I the only one who sees that Jeb Bush was played like a flute? He was totes conned into running; goaded, if you will

I hope he's the front runner for a while, then loses the nomination to Cruz or Walker or Perry.

Just because.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 16, 2014 05:33 PM (0HooB)

123 What I'm tired of are goddamned arrogant Ivy Leaguers.

As a grad of one of those institutions, I am equally sick of them. OTOH, we never see any of the genuinely *good* people I knew, because none of them went into politics/media or other aspects of the power structure.

Posted by: jakeman at December 16, 2014 05:33 PM (Wq40h)

124 Can we nominate one of the horde?

I'll throw my shorts into the ring.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2014 05:34 PM (8ZskC)

125 Posted by: SH at December 16, 2014 05:28 PM (gmeXX)

Every generation thinks it will be the saviors and fix all the screw ups of the previous one(s). Every single generation, without exception.

And every generation is dead wrong.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 16, 2014 05:34 PM (oKE6c)

126 Posted by: torquewrench at December 16, 2014 05:30 PM (noWW6)

Besides Cruz, John Bolton , Clarence Thomas and Ann Coulter might disagree with you on the broad brush.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 16, 2014 05:34 PM (3jmxp)

127 The NYPD Would Like To Have A Word With The Protesters In These Photos

http://gothamist.com/2014/12/16/protest_witness_nypd.php

Posted by: MikeH at December 16, 2014 05:34 PM (84oau)

128 The Dems are much better at message discipline,
respect for seniority, and sublimation of personal desires for the good
of the party.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

You can't be serious. Think Obama vs Hillary, 2008.

Posted by: pep at December 16, 2014 05:35 PM (4nR9/)

129 The Gen-Xers will need the donations...and the votes...of the Boomers, in order to win.

----

That's a great point. That's why its likely that the batton will not be handed over in 2008. I think Obama soured many boomers on younger candidates. They will seize the batton back and let the grown-ups govern (their perspective). In 8 years, they will realize they are too old and need to pass the baton for real. They are not going to hand it to the oldest millenials. They will support Gen X knowing that Gen X will not screw them.

Posted by: SH at December 16, 2014 05:35 PM (gmeXX)

130 "Frankly until [the Boomers] start to die off, I think we're stuck with them controlling the levers"

Have I ever got a proposition for you!

Let's just say it has to do with the number 70.

Posted by: Ezekiel Emmanuel at December 16, 2014 05:35 PM (noWW6)

131 101 A few handfuls of Congressmen and women and Senators younger.

**cough, Handsful**
Posted by: OCD grammar Nazi

Thank you for beating me to it! It's really a drag, some days.

Posted by: Dianna at December 16, 2014 05:35 PM (DV/Ik)

132 I stand self-corrected. You have to be 35 to be President.

Posted by: CQD at December 16, 2014 05:36 PM (lyiq0)

133 Another scrumptious wedge to drive into the electorate. Political!Science!

Look, Junior, the majority of every age group in the history of Man were loser fuckups. If you think the future is going to be redeemed because of your birthdate, well, stick around. Watch "your generation" real close. That will mature you.

Meanwhile, since you insist on making a unitary bloc of 3/4 of the population because they're Older Than You, I'll just be over here, patting a flat spot onto the top of your cute li'l head, there.

Really. Just, beneath disdain.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 16, 2014 05:36 PM (xq1UY)

134 Posted by: Ezekiel Emmanuel at December 16, 2014 05:35 PM (noWW6

Believe me, on my sadder days when I consider nihilism it makes more sense then not.

Which is why I know I must reject it.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 3 (short) weeks! at December 16, 2014 05:36 PM (HDwDg)

135 Every generation thinks it will be the saviors and fix all the screw ups of the previous one(s). Every single generation, without exception.

And every generation is dead wrong.

----

Untrue, some generations are more remarkable than others. Partly by luck of where they are in history, partly by their shared youthful experiences.

Posted by: SH at December 16, 2014 05:36 PM (gmeXX)

136 Can we nominate one of the horde?

I nominate ace.

*wipes brown substance from nose*

Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 16, 2014 05:37 PM (XzRw1)

137 Can we nominate one of the horde?

I'll throw my shorts into the ring.
Posted by: Cicero

Unworn pair please. Those stuck to the floor. We can't get them up. Thx.
-Ring Management

Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 05:37 PM (kW1lr)

138 *leaves*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2014 05:32 PM (FsuaD)

Not so fast, missy. Take yer lumps.

Posted by: The Door at December 16, 2014 05:37 PM (sDapq)

139 I really had no problem with Romney. I would not mind Perry.

Good folks over there in the right column..., but I regard them as being about like Bill Clinton in the context of experience. Naive and unstudied in the context of international affairs, diplomacy, the military, and life in general, however conservative they may be.

In short, if you can't at least remember John Kennedy, then you probably have nothing other than a vague intellectual grasp of the institutional history. I'm sure that many people here will get huffed up about my saying that, but there it is.

But that's just me.

Posted by: 35 year old McCulloch at December 16, 2014 05:37 PM (F2IAQ)

140
Frankly until they start to die off, I think
we're stuck with them controlling the levers (and voting themselves more
and more free shit.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 3 (short) weeks! at December 16, 2014 05:31 PM (HDwDg)

Get over it. Our parents fucked and we are the big kahuna. We will rule till we die or bankrupt SS. It's call NUMBERS. We have them.

Your future? Watching us old farts drive down the interstate in a Cadillac at 57 MPH in the left lane.
I think I will just shot myself.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2014 05:37 PM (0FSuD)

141 BTW, My favorite on those lists is Haley. Rated the most conservative gov in the country.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 05:38 PM (u9gzs)

142 Second: of course it's locked up in the boomers. Have you seen
XKCD's Christmas music chart? Every Christmas is an attempt to recreate
the boomers childhoods.

Every political candidate a chance to appeal to boomers.

etc etc. etc.

If you really want to see the Tinkerbell phenomenon, you need to visit the Bay Area. Aging hippies with gray ponytails yearn to "recreate '68," as they put it, and bitch about today's music and the political commitment of today's youth. If they had lawns, they'd be yelling at people to stay off them.

It's really creepy, a creepiness exacerbated by the fact that many/most of them don't have children. This is it, and mortality now is not just an abstraction any more.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 16, 2014 05:38 PM (oKE6c)

143 I nominate ace.

*wipes ~~brown~~ white substance from nose*

Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 16, 2014 05:37 PM (XzRw1)

FIFY

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2014 05:38 PM (0FSuD)

144 127
The NYPD Would Like To Have A Word With The Protesters In These Photos

http://gothamist.com/2014/12/16/protest_witness_nypd.php

That looks like a fucking klan rally.

Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 16, 2014 05:38 PM (XzRw1)

145 124 Can we nominate one of the horde?

I'll throw my shorts into the ring.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)

I was told there would be no pants.

Posted by: Dianna at December 16, 2014 05:38 PM (DV/Ik)

146 132
I stand self-corrected. You have to be 35 to be President.

Posted by: CQD

Yeah, but those are the rules in that dumb piece of paper that's, like, more than 2 years old, dude. Plus, it's full of white privilege.

Posted by: T. Jeff. at December 16, 2014 05:39 PM (/Ho8c)

147 Your future? Watching us old farts drive down the interstate in a Cadillac at 57 MPH in the left lane.

With the right blinker on.

Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 05:39 PM (kW1lr)

148 84 Kristen Gillenbrand did the Lena Dunham thing and claimed she was a victim because she, too, was sexually harassed. Wouldn't provide a name, so it was probably a Democrat. Think she's one of the leaders of Congress getting involved in campus rape culture legislation.

No more of these broads and their imaginary victimhood, please.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2014 05:27 PM (ABcz/)

Now to be fair, I had sampled a couple of glasses of Chivas before commenting on her ample backside.

Doesn't mean that the "Little Senator" wouldn't mind "passing some bills" with her.

Posted by: Senator Cornelius Strawman at December 16, 2014 05:39 PM (+Fae7)

149 A millennial might do quite well, if we could get "him" to pull his nose out of his iGadget long enough to acknowledge reality.

Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2014 05:40 PM (dVmLD)

150 Bob Dole is still available, and Bob Dole is not "boomer"

Posted by: Bob Dole at December 16, 2014 05:40 PM (lN8KC)

151 our future? Watching us old farts drive down the interstate in a Cadillac at 57 MPH in the left lane.

I bought a Caddy when I was 25. Got it out of my system now.

Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 05:41 PM (Rx8ML)

152 Time to bail. This subject has come up many times and it is just as bad as that war between 1861 and 1865 for creating flame wars.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 05:42 PM (u9gzs)

153 Don't worry, one day us millennials will fix all this. Once we get through final exams, we need a break from all the protesting. Oh and find a job in this economy, somewhere. Buy a house....well probably rent, cause we got student loans to pay off. Then get married,....maybe, the women don't seem to want to date anymore, have kids, eh probably not at this point. Anyway, are time will come!!

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 16, 2014 05:42 PM (JjJUC)

154 Every Christmas is an attempt to recreate the boomers childhoods.
-----------------

Just for the sake of discussion, exactly what horrid visions does that evoke that it should denigrated?

Posted by: 35 year old McCulloch at December 16, 2014 05:43 PM (F2IAQ)

155 Besides Ace has a new one up

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 05:43 PM (u9gzs)

156 It's not so much who I want to vote for anymore, it's about who am I voting against.

Posted by: tu3031 at December 16, 2014 05:43 PM (i0wGQ)

157 Nood, amigos...

Posted by: Keith Arnold at December 16, 2014 05:43 PM (iIzG7)

158 Untrue, some generations are more remarkable than
others. Partly by luck of where they are in history, partly by their
shared youthful experiences.

Posted by: SH at December 16, 2014 05:36 PM (gmeXX)

Rubbish.

Some generations are marked out by history as living in interesting times, but that's not their doing - that's luck of the draw. "Shared youthful experiences" sounds like code for wishful thinking about how one generation differs fundamentally from others. They don't. People are people, with a bell curve representing every attribute imaginable, with history pushing some segments of the bell curve wrt some attribute to the fore.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 16, 2014 05:44 PM (oKE6c)

159 THRONE. OF. SKULLS. ...baby!

Posted by: southcentralpa at December 16, 2014 05:45 PM (7YZbv)

160 I like Haley too, but wasn't she born in India? Doesn't the constitution state that only native-born Americans qualify?
If she's able to run, she'd definitely be my top choice.

Posted by: Mike at December 16, 2014 05:49 PM (c056A)

161 Palin/Love 2016

Posted by: Erowmero at December 16, 2014 05:54 PM (go5uR)

162 160
I like Haley too, but wasn't she born in India? Doesn't the constitution state that only native-born Americans qualify?

If she's able to run, she'd definitely be my top choice.

Posted by: Mike at December 16, 2014 05:49 PM (c056A)

No, she was born in SC, Bamberg I think.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:05 PM (u9gzs)

163 bb's gave your silly asses tie dyed shirts and music like bird is the word. what the fuck else you want?

curls?

baby boomers for preznit!

Posted by: babyboomers.org at December 16, 2014 06:32 PM (XH7xw)

164 which set of choices would you rather pick from?

I'd rather have the choice that didn't involve war between the ages. Good grief; We have the Democrats promulgating war between the races, war between the genders and class warfare. Must we through in our owntoxic mix of blameism too?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2014 06:34 PM (Dj3AB)

165 Make that "throw" in.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2014 06:37 PM (Dj3AB)

166 My regard for Scott Walker is known here, I think.
I mentioned he reminds me of Silent Cal (I read Amity Shlaes)

The *only* negative is Scotty is NOT a college graduate (maybe he's been going to night school?)

Posted by: TheThinMan at December 16, 2014 06:38 PM (tQASX)

167 What's Tony "Pot Hole King" Villar doing on that list?

Cruz and Walker.

Posted by: corona at December 16, 2014 06:39 PM (fh2Y7)

168 Niki Haley was born in South Carolina.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2014 06:39 PM (Dj3AB)

169 You had me at "Niki Haley." I think that's the way to go.

I like Scott Walker. On paper.. He needs a little more inspiring "it" factor to be President. Hey, this is the world we live in, just sayin'...

Posted by: danieljeyn at December 16, 2014 06:51 PM (tZE2p)

170 Just like boomers to have disdain for those paying for their awesome multi-decade trip. Will no one rid us of these buttoned down bourgeois squares!

Posted by: Feh at December 16, 2014 06:58 PM (g/zj9)

171 This appears to be that rare combo of both a math and editing fail.

Posted by: DFCtomm at December 16, 2014 07:15 PM (1S86B)

172 How about we not blame the fracking boomers for everything?

It's like for the last 50 years, no one else has voted on anything or anyone or been part of any government or made bad legislation or done any protests or made any slogans.

Geezo people get over it and admit that you too are responsible for the mess we're in and even if it were true, blaming boomers for everything will not change what's going to happen no matter who's elected.

I know why you're all down on boomers it's cause they're your parents and you just can't resist getting in a few digs.

Pathetic.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2014 07:31 PM (RZzX3)

173 The Boomers ARE responsible for everything. They've been the authority for the last 20 years. They raised the whiny do-nothing millennials into a bunch of panty-wastes that can't even take their law school exams because some thug got shot while trying to kill a cop.

They ruined what they could first hand, then left a trail of destruction, which continues to grow, as their legacy.

Posted by: Winona's Big Brown Buc-ee at December 16, 2014 08:00 PM (KZ+oE)

174 You have every right to be angry at Boomers - everything you say is true. I would add though, that if you look at the wreckage carefully, you'll see it is Liberalism that has destroyed everything. See this video it explains what has happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Iz3VjoHXLA

Posted by: Scipio at December 16, 2014 08:44 PM (i5wUE)

175
2.5 million (mostly millennials) have served in either Afghanistan or Iraq. Generational warfare is stupid. It sounds like its coming from people who grew up watching "Beavis and Butthead". Oh, wait.

Posted by: Levin at December 16, 2014 08:52 PM (cQ4Va)

176 166.....funny, I find that a positive.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at December 16, 2014 08:53 PM (4FqTM)

177 Boomers were born between 1946 and 1964. The boom starts about a year after WWII ends. 46-64 is Census Bureau dates, but some cut it off 1960. Anyway, the point is that you could be born in 1949 and be a Baby Boomer.

This would include HR Clinton as Baby Boomer, which is correct.

Posted by: zerk at December 17, 2014 02:10 AM (dFBkj)

178 My generation had an age test too (don't trust anyone over 30), and look how well that worked out.

Posted by: Petunia at December 17, 2014 10:35 AM (mV/AS)

179 Palin was born in February of 1964, right on the border line between Boomer and GenX. Her mentality is, I think, very much GenX, and I have been saying for years that we could count her as the first GenX president.

I would be OK with a Bobby Jindal candidacy too, though.

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181 can we just find someone who is good? aren't there any good, smart people out there anymore? when was the last time we had a really good president? I'd say it was Ronald Reagan. honestly, we have not had a decent president since Reagan, and the country is a wreck. if jeb bush, hilary clinton, or god forbid, elizabeth warren end up being president, we will be doomed. doomed.

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