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Morning Thread (12-16-2014)
Yesterday 10 families affected by the Sandy Hook shooting sued Bushmaster and the entire distribution channel that sold the gun to the shooter's mother. The complaint is an interesting read in that it looks like it was cut-and-pasted from anti-gun comments on Daily Kos.
An example:According to the #SandyHook lawyers, the Bushmaster "ejects" bullets at 4,000 feet per second.
Probably out of 30-caliber magazine clips
— Bob Owens (@bob_owens) December 15, 2014The Sandy Hook complaint omits a rather important intervening fact here, relevant to "entrustment": pic.twitter.com/RzinbMaVMT
— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) December 15, 2014AoSHQ Weekly Podcast
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Joe Biden at December 16, 2014 06:35 AM (LvVQC)
Posted by: JDub (was BunkerintheBurbs) at December 16, 2014 06:36 AM (X3xYu)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 16, 2014 06:39 AM (60Vyp)
winter has returned here
Posted by: wing at December 16, 2014 06:42 AM (gd8Or)
Sitting here reading and went back to sleep
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:48 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/dvUcHk
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:48 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:48 AM (u9gzs)
Muzzie "conservative"? Does such a thing exist? Making fun of idiots does not make you a "conservative".
http://is.gd/j0R694
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:49 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/G4OVdf
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:49 AM (u9gzs)
I feel sorry your ass will never come to any closure. What is the hell are you snivelling on about?!
Your butt closures are only a BS pipe dream, jack-wagon!
Posted by: Gunney Ermey at December 16, 2014 06:49 AM (LvVQC)
http://is.gd/q3B92b
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:49 AM (u9gzs)
That might be putting it charitably. The BBC described the final agreement as a weak and ineffectual compromise while green groups complain that it actually weakens international climate rules. It turns out most of the nations of the world see the climate change issue as merely a shake down opportunity to leverage more aid money from American taxpayers.
This is all the AGW scam has ever been about.
http://is.gd/xbq3Ya
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:49 AM (u9gzs)
http://is.gd/4XIqv6
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:49 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:50 AM (u9gzs)
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Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:50 AM (u9gzs)
True. But it does get you kicked out of the idiot camp.
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 06:50 AM (39Sje)
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Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:53 AM (u9gzs)
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Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:53 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:54 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:54 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:54 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:54 AM (u9gzs)
Bushmaster and the entire distribution channel that sold the gun to the
shooter's mother. The complaint is an interesting read in that it looks like it was cut-and-pasted from anti-gun comments on Daily Kos.
As I said, this case should have been thrown out as soon as it hit the judge's desk. But I suppose they went shopping for an anti-gun judge who disregarded the shield law passed by congress long ago.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:56 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 16, 2014 07:00 AM (JO9+V)
DAY 770
693 to go (766 to Inauguration Day 2017)
Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Mugwumps, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microagressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:02 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 16, 2014 07:03 AM (/9Mak)
What difference, at this point, does it make?1!/1!?!?1!?!?1?/
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 16, 2014 07:03 AM (HSmrB)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 16, 2014 07:04 AM (JO9+V)
I have never understood why this was ever a question to begin with.
When did it become logical to trash evidence because a cop violated the law.
Fruit of the poisoned tree? Why bother with search warrants?
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 07:05 AM (39Sje)
He actually threatened that he was "an inch away" from leaving the GOP. That's about as close as anyone of his stature/influence has come to in effect call for a 3rd party.
I'm more and more heading into that camp, which is remarkable since I have resisted it tooth and nail for so long. That says something.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:06 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: J. Biden at December 16, 2014 07:06 AM (vntmB)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 07:07 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Andy at December 16, 2014 07:07 AM (vGQV1)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:08 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 07:05 AM (39Sje)
They basically ruled that car searches were not "poisoned fruit".
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 07:09 AM (u9gzs)
Well, it looks like I will have insurance by new year's after all. Only $20 more per month but still, $560/month is more than double the price of the most expensive plan I ever had to pay for when health insurance was sold by evil capitalist Joo diamond merchant money grubber Christ killing infidel media controlling Bolshevik world subverters.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:11 AM (CMkNk)
. . . and just in time because my shingles came out.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:12 AM (CMkNk)
About the time the ink was drying on the 4th amendment.
Posted by: Andy at December 16, 2014 07:12 AM (vGQV1)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:11 AM (CMkNk)
Looks like your cost curve has been bent alright.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 16, 2014 07:12 AM (6T8Ay)
Levin did rant on the GOPe and I think if he jumps there will be a lot of people going with him. The base is mighty disgruntled right now in no small part thanks to the Cromulus bill Boehner and Reid pushed through the House and Senate.
Posted by: Gmac at December 16, 2014 07:13 AM (4pjhs)
Posted by: J. Biden at December 16, 2014 07:13 AM (vntmB)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at December 16, 2014 07:14 AM (Pwo5S)
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 07:14 AM (Rx8ML)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 16, 2014 07:12 AM (6T8Ay)
There are a number of individuals who should only "get bent."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:14 AM (CMkNk)
When I first loaded the page, Daily Kos was underlined in some green stuff and I thought it was a link. Now it is gone.
Google Chrome is evil.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 16, 2014 07:14 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at December 16, 2014 07:14 AM (Pwo5S)
Meh. Guns don't kill. Police do!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:15 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:15 AM (CMkNk)
Word
Posted by: Michael Brown at December 16, 2014 07:17 AM (6T8Ay)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:11 AM (CMkNk)
They get it for you wholesale.
Posted by: --- at December 16, 2014 07:17 AM (MMC8r)
Best thing about the new SG is not that he is a gun grabber but rather that he is just a political hack. He founded "Doctors for Obama" and raised millions for the President.
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 07:17 AM (Rx8ML)
Right, that's the hook they're trying to use to get around the federal preemption.
You should read it. It's so bad I wouldn't be surprised if the lawyers were sanctioned.
Posted by: Andy at December 16, 2014 07:17 AM (vGQV1)
http://is.gd/Wjm80V
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 07:07 AM (u9gzs)
Bless you, Vic. She is built like the guns of Navarone
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 16, 2014 07:18 AM (JO9+V)
I have a Bushmaster XM-15 E2S. Somehow, just sitting in the safe, minding its own business, it hasn't hurt anybody.
Posted by: Phil at December 16, 2014 07:18 AM (4HYng)
Posted by: Andy at December 16, 2014 07:12 AM (vGQV1)
The 4th amendment has never called for trashing evidence. That is a modern invention. Also, in the particular case above IIANM the court ruled several years ago if the cops made a "good faith" stop that evidence obtained need not be discarded. I would rank this as a good faith stop.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 07:19 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: --- at December 16, 2014 07:17 AM (MMC8r)
Mit 2 pair pants, maybe.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:19 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: biancaneve at December 16, 2014 07:19 AM (6Turu)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:19 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 07:20 AM (Rx8ML)
With the Republican leadership made up of Quislings, a third party may be the only viable option. It's just not likely that we'll manage to remove the scumbags in their home districts.
Posted by: Cato at December 16, 2014 07:20 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: biancaneve at December 16, 2014 07:19 AM (6Turu)
One day a real flood will wash away all the scum.
- - Travis Bickle
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:20 AM (CMkNk)
Right, that's the hook they're trying to use to get around the federal preemption.
You should read it. It's so bad I wouldn't be surprised if the lawyers were sanctioned.
Discovery should be fun. Supposedly, the AR was found in the trunk of his car.
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 07:21 AM (39Sje)
Morning all. Back from the greater Fallon/Silver Springs NV regional area. The desert is a lovely place in the winter. Trust me on this.
Posted by: Talibill at December 16, 2014 07:21 AM (FGZtn)
Posted by: J. Biden at December 16, 2014 07:23 AM (vntmB)
NO. NO. NO! Stop this.
http://bearingarms.com/?p=17155
Posted by: Andy at December 16, 2014 07:23 AM (vGQV1)
The Bushmaster case uses the word entrustment which is directly from the
Protection of Legal Commerce Act. That bill does not protect negligent
entrustment. Haven't read the thing but they will have to allege that
the entrustment was negligent.
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 07:14 AM (Rx8ML)
That part of the act was intended to make dealers liable when they did not follow proper procedure in transferring a firearm in a manner that showed gross negligence. They will have a hard time proving that in this case.
IOW this is pure lawfare and BS
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 07:24 AM (u9gzs)
He was/is a mental case. Used a cane but didn't need a cane -- apparently trying to get vet benefits. Smart enough to ditch his cell phone and car.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at December 16, 2014 07:24 AM (zxQ4h)
http://tinyurl.com/kuz8j34
The AR-15 is a +3 Vorpal Assault Rifle of 18-20 critical range with direction sense and -4 penalty against inert metallic objects.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 07:24 AM (/4AZU)
It's to the point where I don't really care. After two consecutive mid-term landslides, the GOP openly and laughingly kicked us in the groin, peed in our faces and then handed everything over to SCOAMF and the Dems. This is not stupidity. It is collusion.
The only silver lining is the massive landslides have given more statewide seats over to Republicans and hopefully conservatives who do not want this shit and are closer to the electorate, making Article V a much more viable option.
Here's hoping.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:25 AM (CMkNk)
Oh man. Mine gave me a really bad time last night. Was finally time to take a med about a half hour ago. Hopefully I'll be asleep a half hour from now.
If you see me after 0800 eastern Q time... it ain't workin'.
Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 16, 2014 07:25 AM (aVY3U)
A "good faith" stop is not an illegal stop.
If an illegal stop can be considered "good faith", there is no distinction.
"Totes swearzies yer honur, we'z meant gud".
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 07:25 AM (39Sje)
Thanks, I see that now. Her laptop is lousy with it. Ya send them off to college to gain a little knowledge armed with a clean and secured device. But she didn't run sweeps or updates and installed a bunch of "cool" crap apps.
Guess what I'll be doing this morning?
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 16, 2014 07:25 AM (JO9+V)
Also Surgeon General was under nuclear option. Only SC nominations can be filibustered.
Best thing about the new SG is not that he is a gun grabber but
rather that he is just a political hack. He founded "Doctors for Obama"
and raised millions for the President.
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 07:17 AM (Rx8ML)
Hairy the pederast only removed the filibuster for Obama's judicial appointments according to Fox news. The SG is not a judicial appointment.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 07:26 AM (u9gzs)
did it become logical to trash evidence because a cop violated the law...."
---
1792.
When this became law: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue but upon probable cause..."
and this:
"[one having a right] must of necessity have a means to vindicate and maintain it,
and a remedy if he is injured in the exercise or enjoyment of it, and,
indeed it is a vain thing to imagine a right without a remedy; for want
of right and want of remedy are reciprocal..."
Posted by: Phil at December 16, 2014 07:26 AM (4HYng)
You hope the kids practice "safe web" but they are just as clumsy and sticky as we were in the web's younger days...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 07:27 AM (/4AZU)
Yup...
just another step towards the Stasi state we are evidently longing for....
"Nein herr honor....we haf confidential informant who svore dere was problem"....
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 07:29 AM (/4AZU)
Here we see the lead woman behind lowering of physical standards in the FDNY stammers & leans heavy on incoherent talking points when lightly challenged.
Fox 5 NYC Clip: http://tinyurl.com/mdsplcd
Women can do EVERYTHING a man can do but when sufficent numbers to satiate the social-engineers of the left can't...all offending "bariers" must be removed.
Posted by: Mosehumphreys at December 16, 2014 07:29 AM (Cg4sT)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 07:26 AM (u9gzs)
Harvey Logan: Rules? In a knife fight?! No rules!
Butch walks over and kicks Harvey in the nuts as hard as he can. Harvey's eyes bulge out, as he doubles over.
Butch Cassidy: Okay! Then somebody count 1-2-3- go!
Sundance: 1-2-3- go!
Butch belts the doubled-over Logan dead in the face, causing him to keel over, out cold.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:30 AM (CMkNk)
That old pesky document was willfully misinterpreted for 230 years...
"just do whatever the fuck you want and go fishing" is the obvious intent there...
//Judas Iscariot Roberts
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 07:30 AM (/4AZU)
If an illegal stop can be considered "good faith", there is no distinction.
"Totes swearzies yer honur, we'z meant gud".
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 07:25 AM (39Sje)
In the case above they stopped the car for a broken rear tail light. When it went to court they found that their State had no law requiring tail lights to "not be broken".
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 07:30 AM (u9gzs)
Hence my use of the word Quisling for Boner & McTurtle. Both parties - at least the leadership thereof - are working for the same end, and that's the endless growth of the Federal Government, perpetual power of the political class, and the benefit of their backers and cheerleaders.
Article V would probably do a lot of good, and I'll hope for it, but we really need to get to work on this third party thing and soon if it's going to even have candidates in the 2016 election.
Posted by: Cato at December 16, 2014 07:31 AM (J+mig)
NO. NO. NO! Stop this.
http://bearingarms.com/?p=17155
Good. Thank you. As I said, discovery should be fun. Maybe we can get a bunch of shit on the official record and out of media talking heads mouths.
4,000 fps? AR15Boolits per trigger pull. AR15High Power rifle. AR15Fully Automatic.
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 07:32 AM (zJmg+)
Right so the cop in good faith was enforcing "Officer Jones' Revised Code section grabass paragraph screw you civilian"....
I'd say a cop not knowing the code he is enforcing is innately "bad faith."
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 07:33 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Citizen X at December 16, 2014 07:33 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2014 07:34 AM (Dj0WE)
4000 fps is roughly 2700 mph or ~ mach 3.5....
for perspective a 120mm Sabot round goes along at 5500 FPS...
here on planet Earth the SS109 5.56 round zips along at 3100 fps....
but hey those lawyers TOTES understand what the heck they are on about.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 07:34 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Mosehumphreys at December 16, 2014 07:29 AM (Cg4sT)
Affirmative action kills. Dear Lord, she looks/sounds completely stupid.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:35 AM (CMkNk)
Any effort to "save the US" is doomed to failure....
she's gone, best to petition for national divorce and start over again.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 07:36 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Citizen X at December 16, 2014 07:33 AM (7ObY1)
They found a few cigar butts and what appears to be a slightly tarnished golden EIB microphone . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:37 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 07:37 AM (co1YW)
Have asked him before when he was a candidate. Never got an answer. Maybe third time's the charm.
Posted by: jj at December 16, 2014 07:37 AM (0r7PZ)
Yay! We get flying cars!
That offending barrier, physics, is gonna be removed!
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 07:37 AM (zJmg+)
When it went to court they found that their State had no law requiring tail lights to "not be broken".
So what was the legal stop?
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 07:38 AM (zJmg+)
They rounded up. Way up.
Or else there's a Bushmaster in .220 Swift. Daddy like!
Posted by: Andy at December 16, 2014 07:39 AM (vGQV1)
I think going the 3rd-party route could leave us wandering in the wilderness for a decade or so, but what we have now - party leadership that openly mocks the voters and colludes with the Dems - isn't accomplishing anything good anyway.
Posted by: biancaneve at December 16, 2014 07:39 AM (6Turu)
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 07:40 AM (J7NUM)
89 Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 07:30 AM (u9gzs)
Right so the cop in good faith was enforcing "Officer Jones' Revised Code section grabass paragraph screw you civilian"....
I'd say a cop not knowing the code he is enforcing is innately "bad faith."
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 07:33 AM (/4AZU)
Be that as it may, SCOTUS doesn't agree.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 07:40 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: J. Biden at December 16, 2014 07:41 AM (vntmB)
I don't think that there is nearly enough time for a viable 3rd party to assemble a slate of candidates (not just for prexy) for 2016. I think we do need to move forward with creating one that is as viable as the GOP (hell, raid them for all the conservatives) as well as move ahead with Article V at the state level. For 2016, we have to find the most viable conservative and get behind him/her as soon as possible. No more circular firing squads. Let Mitt, Krispy, Jeb and Kuntsman form one this time around.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:41 AM (CMkNk)
126 dead so far, mostly children and teens.
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 07:40 AM (J7NUM)
Jeb says they did it out of love.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:41 AM (CMkNk)
There's a demand for a third party that's been latent for decades. Just look how far Perot got with the Reform Party until it looked like he was going to win, instead of be able to split the vote in favor of Clinton .
It might not take us as long as we think to build up support, but we'd have to play at being "centrist" or "moderate" (two completely meaningless words) in order to not get murdered by the media.
Posted by: Cato at December 16, 2014 07:42 AM (J+mig)
Thing is Andy you wouldn't want a 4000 FPS .223 for military applications b/c strange things happen to non DU rounds at those velocities and they are not necessarily good for lethality...
http://tinyurl.com/ppab2n6
I think the notion of a defacto HEAT charge transaction is cool as hell but my understanding is 4000 fps tends to make the impact a perforatory rather than ballistic exchange.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 07:42 AM (/4AZU)
Daddy like!
If you don't mind single shot, or you have access to a 3D printer, (for making mags), you could wildcat a barrel.
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 07:42 AM (Osdie)
I was gonna say. The smaller .223 rounds will whip along 35-3600 FPS but most stick around 3k or so.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 07:43 AM (co1YW)
Posted by: biancaneve at December 16, 2014 07:43 AM (6Turu)
This is a court that decided you can be taxed for negative activity Vic....
were I to express my admiration for cleaving to the US Constitution as vociferously as I'd like I'd be given a time out for language.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 07:43 AM (/4AZU)
Actually it was one of the brake lights. The state law requires A (singular) light. Therefore the druggie's lawyer argued the police stop was invalid.
And the Supreme Court decided 8-1. Which way I do not remember?
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 07:44 AM (J7NUM)
That's true, but we don't need a whole slate. Just a few Congressmen and a Senator or two would get the name in the papers. Hell, everyone's heard of the Green Party, and look how useless they've always been. I think we can do better, and once we prove that we can be a viable alternative to the Geriatric Old Party, who will want to be part of it?
Posted by: Cato at December 16, 2014 07:44 AM (J+mig)
So far, it's just that stinging rash. My poor uncle let his go untreated and it messed his nervous system up pretty badly.
A short course of Zovirax and it's gone.
Fucking chicken pox.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:45 AM (CMkNk)
I have a Bushmaster XM-15 E2S. Somehow, just sitting in the safe, minding its own business, it hasn't hurt anybody.
Posted by: Phil at December 16, 2014 07:18 AM (4HYng)
I have one too, the Christmas Bushmaster. I bought it right after Newtown and put it under our tree for my menfolk to unwrap. That made for some nice memories.
It has only hurt a bunch of pumpkins and some steel and paper targets.
Posted by: Stace at December 16, 2014 07:45 AM (1b+5Z)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 16, 2014 07:45 AM (HSmrB)
Posted by: no good deed at December 16, 2014 07:46 AM (w3a0Z)
Posted by: biancaneve at December 16, 2014 07:43 AM (6Turu)
I think he has been making noises to that effect, albeit somewhat quietly. If he does, and if he is up against Krispy Kreosote (aka the Blob that ate New Jersey), he will shred him to pieces. That alone will be worth the price of admission.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:47 AM (CMkNk)
Heiein CONSENTED. The search revealed a plastic sandwich bag of cocaine
in the trunk."(emphasis added)
---
That the defendant consented to the same search of his car that he later attempted to challenge was surely a factor in why the Supreme Court ruled the way it did.
Posted by: Phil at December 16, 2014 07:48 AM (4HYng)
My old neighborhood was so tough, they didn't need guns; they shoved bullets into you by hand.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:48 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 07:48 AM (co1YW)
They spend a lot of time making assertions that may or may not be true. But they seem to be trying to say that the victims were wonderful people, the AR15 is a bad terrible, evil gun so please award us a lot of money.
The attorneys seem to be pretty successful slip and fall types. I don't doubt in front of a jury of liberal Connecticutians that this could win. But I think that the Defendants probably have decent legal power of their own ( note that Remington is a defendant) . They will no doubt file motions to dismiss that point out the Federal injunction against the filing of this case.
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 07:48 AM (Rx8ML)
Posted by: Cato at December 16, 2014 07:49 AM (J+mig)
Idiots.
An AR Bushmaster expells rounds at 4000 rounds per second, not feet per second.
Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2014 07:50 AM (5qoR0)
Posted by: doofus at December 16, 2014 07:50 AM (JdEZJ)
Does a cranium perf or pop at that speed for a non D/U round? Just curious. Honestly.
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 07:51 AM (jRFlL)
Fracking!
Posted by: doofus at December 16, 2014 07:50 AM (JdEZJ)
Well, it's the fault of something.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:51 AM (CMkNk)
Ah, suppositories.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 07:51 AM (co1YW)
When he starts yipping about private firearm ownership as a public health issue, someone needs to ask him:
"How many Americans die of infection every year in hospitals?"
Posted by: Bilbo at December 16, 2014 07:51 AM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:52 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 16, 2014 07:52 AM (JO9+V)
In the 80's the courts applied other limitations:
Limitations on the exclusionary rule have included the following:
Evidence unlawfully obtained from the defendant by a private person
is admissible. The exclusionary rule is designed to protect privacy
rights, with the Fourth Amendment applying specifically to government
officials.
Evidence can only be suppressed if the illegal search violated the
person's own (the person making the court motion) constitutional rights.
The exclusionary rule does not apply to privacy rights of a third
party. However, there is a narrow exception to this standing requirement, the jus tertii standing exception.
The defendant cannot take advantage of the situation (police
breaching rules) to turn the case to his advantage, in face of other
evidence against himself. This falls under the exigent circumstances
exception.
The Silver Platter doctrine which was ruled unconstitutional in the case of Elkins v. United States
in 1960. State officials that obtained evidence illegally were allowed
to turn over evidence to federal officials, and have that evidence be
admitted into trial.
Nix v. Williams
held that if the evidence obtained in the unlawful search would almost
definitely have been found eventually even without said search (inevitable discovery), the evidence may be brought forth in court.
If police officers acting in good faith (bona fides) rely upon a defective search warrant, then the evidence acquired may still be used under the good-faith exception.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 07:53 AM (u9gzs)
It's an interesting one...
They don't really have a good test environ for that, and I am a center mass guy at heart...
You'd think the round would break at the rear of the skull if not on the way in and transfer that jet of plasma to the cranial case...
We need a good balls to the floorboard conventional war with loose ROE to find out.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 07:53 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 07:51 AM (co1YW)
Preparation H at 4,000 FPS.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:53 AM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 16, 2014 07:52 AM (JO9+V)
That's got about the right vibe to it. Need something aspirational that speaks to a desire to want to fix things.
Posted by: Cato at December 16, 2014 07:53 AM (J+mig)
---
How about, the Practical Solutions party?
or, the Not Unprincipled Cronies party?
Posted by: Hank at December 16, 2014 07:53 AM (4HYng)
The media would do its best to demonize the party, no matter what the name is. They will do the bidding of their masters in the Democrat Party.
As opposed to the bidding of their media company owners, which would welcome a new party with new advertising and new opportunities for business.
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 07:54 AM (J7NUM)
Posted by: Cato at December 16, 2014 07:55 AM (J+mig)
Worrying about the media is a waste of time. If we didn't exist, they would have to invent us just to have something to target.
Fuck the media and get on the bus!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:56 AM (CMkNk)
another example of what happens when you lack empathy, I guess
Posted by: mallfly at December 16, 2014 07:56 AM (zjcTL)
Next lawsuit? It should be in this lawsuit. Hell, go for broke. Along witg his doctor who prescribed his meds and big Pharma.
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 07:56 AM (jRFlL)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:56 AM (CMkNk)
Unfortunately likely. Both Democrats and Republicans would come out guns blazing to try to kill it right out of the gate, just like with the Tea Party. There would need to be a great deal of care in the selection of candidates and spokesmen, especially early on.
Posted by: Cato at December 16, 2014 07:57 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Cato at December 16, 2014 07:58 AM (J+mig)
Besides, wasn't it established years ago that gun makers couldn't be
held liable for the misuse of their products. Sorta like
Ford/GM/Chrysler, etc couldn't be sued if someone got drunk and killed
someone with one of their vehicles. Can't remember the case.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 07:48 AM (co1YW)
See #13 above
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 07:58 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: mallfly at December 16, 2014 07:59 AM (zjcTL)
Everybody say it with me, "Islam is the religion of peas."
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 07:59 AM (co1YW)
Posted by: Vlad P. at December 16, 2014 07:59 AM (MMC8r)
If you want real Conservative leadership, then look no further...
Hillary!/Sharpton 16'
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 16, 2014 07:45 AM (HSmrB)
But, but, but....MY TURN!!!
Posted by: J. Biden at December 16, 2014 08:00 AM (vntmB)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:00 AM (co1YW)
Everybody say it with me, "Islam is the religion of peas."
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 07:59 AM (co1YW)
Peas.?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at December 16, 2014 08:00 AM (1FBjV)
I'm on the bus!
But we need to be realistic about what the statist b@$tards will do if/when we form a third party.
I definitely believe in Ace's kill some careers to scare the politicians plan. I said we should have done that to Boehner this year.
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 08:00 AM (J7NUM)
I am surprised that they failed to explicitly say that the defendants were negligent because these guys are slip and fall lawyers not antigun activists (granted they could be both but they want money here). They seem to be making the argument that selling the AR15 is in itself negligent without saying that explicitly. If that argument held it would have widespread implications.
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 08:01 AM (Rx8ML)
Without any warrant the cops can search anywhere, anytime and the court will make it legal after the fact by conjuring up some mumbo jumbo justification for it. (A cop's mistake as to the facts and the law justifies warrantless searches. Heaven help us.)
Posted by: Phil at December 16, 2014 08:01 AM (4HYng)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:02 AM (co1YW)
Posted by: monkeys at December 16, 2014 08:04 AM (LvVQC)
Do they make ARs in .220? Or a wildcat job?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:04 AM (co1YW)
Don't get me wrong on this. I am not in favor of cops being allowed to violate the 4th and 5th amendment. However, excluding evidence of people who are obviously guilty only punishes the public by releasing known criminals.
I favor allowing the evidence and punishing the cop who did the violation.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 08:05 AM (u9gzs)
The AR-15 that Special Snowflake Shooter had was pumping out .220 swift?
I was never arguing the case would turn on technical aspects just laughing my ass off at the "fluency" of the specious slip and fall tort artists not doing their homework...
Frankly I have no faith in the courts at all, the gay marriage cases showed that activist judges have no shame and are willing to engage in whatever gymnastics their desired outcome requires so every corner of the Bill of Rights now rests on the integrity of as few as 40 people and their pet activists.
If inclined the court system can end the 2d amendment with this case....
and within the next 50 years they will be inclined unless I miss my guess.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:06 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Bigby's Hand Sanitizer at December 16, 2014 08:07 AM (3ZtZW)
http://tinyurl.com/pmq4xur
.220 swift is a tall order for an AR IMHO...
*could* it be done?
Yeah but not without AR-57 level re-engineering...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:09 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:10 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Bigby's Hand Sanitizer at December 16, 2014 08:10 AM (3ZtZW)
.
Yeah, and cops should just plant evidence on people they know are crooks.
Posted by: the 4h amendment sucks at December 16, 2014 08:10 AM (mOEk5)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 08:05 AM (u9gzs)
Unlawful search should be excluded, sorry, there's too much at stake to let this slippage happen.
Posted by: MikeH at December 16, 2014 08:10 AM (84oau)
Do they make ARs in .220? Or a wildcat job?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:04 AM (co1YW)
.220 swift will not fit through the mag well in an AR-15. .223 is 5.56x45 mm. .220 swift is 5.56x56 mm.
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 08:12 AM (J7NUM)
(theoretically)
Frankly it is a play round IMHO....
.223 itself is the original varmint round...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:12 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:12 AM (co1YW)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
Peas.?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin
Visualize Whirled Peas.
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 08:13 AM (FlkIm)
So, OF COURSE, some of you support this. Not just pickin' on you Vic. There will be others.
This does, in so many ways, outline fundamentally why many of us should just leave the GOP.
It also shows ... and some of you will not like this ... that the Classical Liberals of the 50s, 60s, and 70s really did have a point.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 16, 2014 08:14 AM (ViF0c)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 16, 2014 08:14 AM (2Ayux)
Right, it won't even fir through AR-10 dimensions....
*can* it be done?
Sure so long as you engineer a new lower receiver, a new magazine system, and in all likelihood an entirely new bolt face...
it'll work ducky and at some point you have invented a new platform and not just a new upper...
http://tinyurl.com/apwdzna
AR-57
I used an AR-57 lower for my AR-15 a2 build....
b/c 5/7*28 is a specialty round and I am not reloading it yet.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:14 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Erowmero at December 16, 2014 08:15 AM (go5uR)
Agreed. If you toss out the proper forms you soon hollow out the entire system. Which, BTW, *has happened already* IRT SSM and Obamacare. I see no reason to continue the trend unless you want to foment more destruction.
Posted by: Bigby's Hand Sanitizer at December 16, 2014 08:15 AM (3ZtZW)
I'd be interested to see footage of an AR-15 popping .220 swift...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:16 AM (/4AZU)
As to the courts eliminating the 2d, well, as much as I am in the Let it Burn camp, the court rulings on the 2d are an area that demonstrate that liberty must not inexorably be lost. And if you believe the 2d guarantees the 1st, that's a good thing.
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 08:17 AM (Rx8ML)
So ... police can now fabricate a charge, search you, and use any
evidence found. Pretty much gives LEOs an incentive to stop and search
everyone. I can't see how this could possibly go wrong.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 16, 2014 08:14 AM (ViF0c)
No, they have to have a reason for stopping you to begin with unless it is one of those "illegal" road block searches. And in those you have to give them permission to search.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 08:17 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Erowmero at December 16, 2014 08:15 AM (go5uR)
The Port Arthur Massacre for the US...
Posted by: MikeH at December 16, 2014 08:17 AM (84oau)
Tend to agree. Specialty, hot, varmint round. Mainly for small animals at range.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:17 AM (co1YW)
'entrusted' = lawfully sold a firearm to a woman who had all the appropriate licenses.
'retrieved' = stole a firearm that wasn't his and killed his mom.
lawyers can do wonders with the English language
Posted by: McCool at December 16, 2014 08:17 AM (TQxRy)
GOP stands for nothing. Classical Liberals should leave it to the milquetoasts and let them deal with the fascists. And yes I'm using that advisedly.
Posted by: Bigby's Hand Sanitizer at December 16, 2014 08:18 AM (3ZtZW)
punishing the cop who did the violation.
If only.
When they don't get punished for killing someone in a "wrong address no-knock raid", do you honestly think a cop would get punished for a tail light violation?
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 08:18 AM (fuUth)
So ... police can now fabricate a charge, search you, and use any
evidence found. Pretty much gives LEOs an incentive to stop and search
everyone. I can't see how this could possibly go wrong.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 16, 2014 08:14 AM (ViF0c)
No, they have to have a reason for stopping you to begin with unless it is one of those "illegal" road block searches. And in those you have to give them permission to search.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 08:17 AM (u9gzs)
But police officers have been know to fabricate evidence, the only protection are our rights
Posted by: MikeH at December 16, 2014 08:19 AM (84oau)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 16, 2014 08:19 AM (5buP8)
The Bushmaster was pure stock b/c Snowflake was a COD geek not a gun geek...
and yeah I am betting Ogabe is going big not going home..
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:19 AM (/4AZU)
When they don't get punished for killing someone in a "wrong address
no-knock raid", do you honestly think a cop would get punished for a
tail light violation?
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 08:18 AM (fuUth)
Getting kind of far afield now. I am totally against no-knock drug raids. In fact, if we eliminated the drug laws most of this crap behavior from cops would go away. (or their excuse for it would go away)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 08:20 AM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 16, 2014 08:20 AM (5buP8)
lawyers can do wonders with the English language
Did he steal it first and kill her?
Or did he kill her and then steal it?
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 08:20 AM (fuUth)
Posted by: MikeH at December 16, 2014 08:19 AM (84oau)
Fabricating evidence is a felony and cops have gone to jail for that.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 08:21 AM (u9gzs)
The Progressives proved it's far more effective to take over a party and remake it than to start a new one from scratch.
Posted by: MTF at December 16, 2014 08:21 AM (6um35)
Posted by: MikeH at December 16, 2014 08:17 AM (84oau)
Newtown was worse IMO. And more people are agreeing with the NRA, armed response will stop these massacres. Gun Free Zones will not stop them and likely encourage them.
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 08:21 AM (J7NUM)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 16, 2014 08:21 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2014 08:21 AM (TETYm)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 08:20 AM (u9gzs)
Vic,
It is getting worse, I had a friend stopped for rolling thru a stop sign. The officer asked what degree of educations she had, why did he ask that?
Something very bad is happening in this country and we need the shield of the Bill of Rights
Posted by: MikeH at December 16, 2014 08:22 AM (84oau)
Didn't he kill her with a handgun and "then" rob the safe? Found her keys if I remember.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:22 AM (co1YW)
a cop violated the law.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 06:49 AM (u9gzs)
Sorry, but I no longer trust the jack-booted thugs of law enforcement to act reasonably. They are the pointy tip of the spear of government violence, and they lie and cheat and kill to get what they want.
We're not in Kansas any more.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2014 08:22 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 08:23 AM (EqSfr)
Probably was being a smartass insinuating that she couldn't read the STOP sign.
Posted by: no good deed at December 16, 2014 08:23 AM (w3a0Z)
I'm certain the courts are no more partisan than the IRS my friend....
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:23 AM (/4AZU)
The AR15 was bone stock because the owner, the mother, was not a gun geek but rather just like millions of legal gun owners.
The shooter was not the owner, and in fact killed his mother to take the rifle. So she is not available to be sued, I guess.
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 08:24 AM (Rx8ML)
sign. The officer asked what degree of educations she had, why did he
ask that?"
WTF?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:24 AM (co1YW)
Probably was being a smartass insinuating that she couldn't read the STOP sign.
Posted by: no good deed at December 16, 2014 08:23 AM (w3a0Z)
No, she's not that type of person.
Posted by: MikeH at December 16, 2014 08:24 AM (84oau)
Or did he kill her and then steal it?
He shot her with a rifle (not the AR-15) while she was sleeping.
depends how we define 'steal' I guess...
Posted by: McCool at December 16, 2014 08:25 AM (TQxRy)
Do an internet search for "Google Chrome underlines words".
There are some malware programs installed, probably when she initially downloaded Google Chrome. It happened when she allowed different processes during the installation. One of the techie helper websites will tell you some key program names to look for. You'll then need to go into the program manager and uninstall the offending programs.
It happened to me recently when I had to reboot my system and reloaded Chrome. Some really nasty stuff in those programs. I got rid of about half a dozen programs and it brought my system back to speedy performance.
Posted by: NoLongerintheBellyoftheBeast at December 16, 2014 08:25 AM (D/mKE)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:25 AM (co1YW)
sign. The officer asked what degree of educations she had, why did he
ask that?"
WTF?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:24 AM (co1YW)
My guess some State or Federal tracking program
Posted by: MikeH at December 16, 2014 08:25 AM (84oau)
--
Vic -- iirc the Feds were remote and didn't have much impact on the population before The Great War. Again iirc, FBI's predecessor wasn't created until around 1910 --- so a decade or so from that creation of the first alphabet soup agency until the first SC case on abuses is, imho, pretty soon.
So claiming that the courts didn't create the poisoned fruit doctrine for 140ish years is kinda of wrong
Posted by: Mark E at December 16, 2014 08:25 AM (i4eXO)
The rumor mill says she bought the gun for the kid or he at least had access to it...
which is a whole other ball of wax if true.
Goddamn I hate idiots.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:25 AM (/4AZU)
"
Okay, there ya go. I remember he did not that the AR to begin his escapade.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:26 AM (co1YW)
So if anyone was "negligent" it is the mother, but she is not available to sue.
So these slip and fall guys are going after Remington, the resellers, and the retailer.
All of which are protected from even having this suit filed by Federal law.
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 08:27 AM (Rx8ML)
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2014 08:28 AM (TETYm)
http://bit.ly/138NpzW
Posted by: alexthechick - The Perfect 3 and Destoyer of All at December 16, 2014 08:29 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 08:30 AM (Rx8ML)
Posted by: seems legit at December 16, 2014 08:30 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2014 08:30 AM (TETYm)
Exactly.
When there are hundreds of police shootings every year and the cops are almost never charged with anything, I have a reasonable expectation that the courts and the cops and the DAs are in collusion.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2014 08:30 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: seems legit at December 16, 2014 08:31 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2014 08:32 AM (TETYm)
Oh, it's a wonderful December morning here. Not too terribly cool. High clouds. Plenty of contrails. No gunfire.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:33 AM (co1YW)
No, we're not.
I said "no-knock wrong address raid". Where they, in "totes good faith", raided the wrong address and killed someone.
It all goes back to "good faith". They raid the wrong address in good faith, ASSUMING their leadership is competent, kill someone, and skate.
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 08:33 AM (EqSfr)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2014 08:30 AM (Zu3d9)
No oversight, civilian boards should review any shooting
Posted by: MikeH at December 16, 2014 08:33 AM (84oau)
Posted by: seems legit at December 16, 2014 08:31 AM (A98Xu)
*stares*
Tim Tebow
Posted by: alexthechick - The Perfect 3 and Destoyer of All at December 16, 2014 08:33 AM (mf5HN)
#Illridewithyou BS is a hard core SJW borderline lunatic that bounces
from one cause to another. Half white, half Chinese and she considers
herself an oppressed POC. This hate-filled professional activist is an
inspiration to millions in a movement for world peace and brotherhood
(that will be forgotten within 48 hours). Also unsurprising, media
misses all this easily available information and presents Tessa Klum as
just a regular person that wants to help people.
We have got to be close to reaching Peak Stupidity.
Posted by: George Orwell at December 16, 2014 08:34 AM (1BQGO)
Posted by: seems legit at December 16, 2014 08:31 AM (A98Xu)
*stares*
Tim Tebow
Posted by: alexthechick - The Perfect 3 and Destoyer of All at December 16, 2014 08:33 AM (mf5HN)
Wow, I can feel the heat of that stare even though it's not directed at me
Posted by: MikeH at December 16, 2014 08:34 AM (84oau)
It took their Harvard lawyers this long to recover from being distraught.
Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2014 08:34 AM (FcR7P)
Militarized thug cops?
We're gonna piss some people off.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:2
After last night's national tv embarrassment, NCJ aint saying much
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 16, 2014 08:34 AM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:35 AM (co1YW)
Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2014 08:35 AM (FcR7P)
In the film Until the End of the World, the USA has no-knock *plainclothes* raids, often performed as sweeps. Totally believable in the near-future.
Posted by: Bigby's Hand Sanitizer at December 16, 2014 08:37 AM (3ZtZW)
Actually it was one of the brake lights. The state law requires A (singular) light. Therefore the druggie's lawyer argued the police stop was invalid.
And the Supreme Court decided 8-1. Which way I do not remember?
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 07:44 AM (J7NUM)
Everybody go back and read the actual decision. The Court ruled the way it did because the Cop asked the driver for permission to search the vehicle and the IDIOT SAID YES.
At the point permission for a search was granted the cause for the stop became moot! Had the Cop searched the car without permission or a warrant then the reason would have mattered.
Posted by: Old Dog at December 16, 2014 08:37 AM (tQYJH)
Seriously. A dude with a walker murders a family, gets away, and the cops are fuddled.
Or do you mean the Bears?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:37 AM (co1YW)
Posted by: Bigby's Hand Sanitizer at December 16, 2014 08:39 AM (3ZtZW)
My old neighborhood was so tough, they didn't need guns; they shoved bullets into you by hand.
My old neighborhood was so rough, when we went to the drive-in movies, they pumped a few rounds into the trunk just to be sure we weren't sneaking anybody in.
Posted by: Citizen X at December 16, 2014 08:39 AM (7ObY1)
"yes"
add in his party's Mocha Messiah saying that the military is "Santa in fatigues" while also pretending big scale deployments are a thing of the past while also demanding a literally open-ended AUMF from Congress...
NCJ's internal political monologue must be a maze...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:39 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2014 08:39 AM (FcR7P)
They have proof the gun locker was unlocked? That he didn't kill Mom and then unlock it?
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2014 08:32 AM (TETYm)
If they were suing the "mom" they may have some kind of case, a weak one, but one would be there.
Suing the gun makers and sellers is a very bad case and is also in violation of federal law. See #13 above.
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 08:39 AM (u9gzs)
Or do you mean the Bears?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:37 A
Both my friend, both.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 16, 2014 08:40 AM (vPh3W)
Good morning, pretty Hordelings. While I catch up I can share one feel-good tangent to the PA shooter story.
A man fitting his description attempted to carjack a guy at knifepoint, knocked him to the ground. Guy was carrying, fired shots, carjacker fled. This happened in Doylestown Township, my home town.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 16, 2014 08:40 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2014 08:40 AM (co1YW)
Posted by: RWC - Shopping for Justice! at December 16, 2014 08:41 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 16, 2014 08:42 AM (XzRw1)
Too bad the victim wasn't able to stop him or at least injure him. Glad the victim was not seriously hurt.
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 08:43 AM (J7NUM)
@sven rumor mills are full of all sorts of info that is also dubious. She was shot in the head four times with a Savage MkII. Doesn't mean that she did or did not buy the Bushmaster for him, but he obviously had access to that rifle without her control, but Savage is not on the defendants list, mainly, I guess, because the attorneys don't represent her estate. The Savage in .22 was bolt action and deadly enough, but that would cut against the argument that the AR15 is uniquely bad.
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 08:44 AM (Rx8ML)
Posted by: Bigby's Hand Sanitizer at December 16, 2014 08:44 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: RWC - Shopping for Justice! at December 16, 2014 08:45 AM (fWAjv)
Fixing Chrome
Click on the button with the three lines ,on the upper right side .
Then select extensions
remove all the crap you don't want on that page
Posted by: Cicero Skip at December 16, 2014 08:47 AM (FIrEF)
I am disgusted by the assumption that the cops act reasonably.
They don't.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2014 08:47 AM (Zu3d9)
http://tinyurl.com/qj8pggo
126 killed, another 120 wounded and they still have hostages. And this the day after Obama took a victory lap for pulling out of Afghanistan.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 16, 2014 08:47 AM (ee9LE)
http://tinyurl.com/qj8pggo
126 killed, another 120 wounded and they still have hostages. And this the day after Obama took a victory lap for pulling out of Afghanistan.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 16, 2014 08:47 AM (ee9LE)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 16, 2014 08:48 AM (irGEw)
The desire should be to demand the state has a bulletproof case, not that we give them an "Gaijin Strike Zone" where they have the whole batter's box as a called strike.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:48 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2014 08:49 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2014 08:49 AM (F2IAQ)
How long before an ISIS reject or Al Shabaab recruit tries the same thing at the local elementary or high school?
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 08:49 AM (J7NUM)
There is a real rift on that now. Because cops are tools of the state, not of the people. Which is a real problem when the state is not of the people.
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 08:49 AM (Rx8ML)
Posted by: mallfly at December 16, 2014 08:50 AM (zjcTL)
Islam means peace my friend...
and I need an open-ended AUMF with no defined AO to "fight ISIS."
//General Manly Throw McMomjeans III Hero of Hole 19
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:50 AM (/4AZU)
A Frankford man was shot and killed by a Philadelphia police officer during a traffic stop in Mayfair early Monday, a shooting that sparked now-familiar calls for investigations by the dead man's family and others.
The victim was identified by his family as Brandon Tate-Brown, 26, who had spent time in prison and was working for the Hertz car rental company.
At a vigil near where he died, more than 130 supporters and family members gathered Monday night to denounce the police for what they said was an unwarranted killing.
His mother, Tonya Dickerson, likened his death to that of Michael Brown, whose fatal shooting by police in Ferguson, Mo., sparked protests nationwide.
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at December 16, 2014 08:50 AM (zxQ4h)
Spot on, blaster. There's the rub right there.
Posted by: Citizen X at December 16, 2014 08:51 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 08:52 AM (TSuBZ)
In the film Until the End of the World, the USA has no-knock *plainclothes* raids, often performed as sweeps. Totally believable in the near-future.
Posted by: Bigby's Hand Sanitizer at December 16, 2014 08:37 AM (3ZtZW)
In the real world, Wilson's Brown shirts dragged you out of your house and beat you for not buying "war bonds".
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2014 08:52 AM (TETYm)
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 08:52 AM (J7NUM)
Posted by: anon a mouse at December 16, 2014 08:52 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: alexthechick - The Perfect 3 and Destoyer of All at December 16, 2014 08:33 AM (mf5HN)
----
I thought so, but wasn't sure.
He's a good guy.
Posted by: seems legit at December 16, 2014 08:53 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 16, 2014 08:48 AM (irGEw)
Quick Probate
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2014 08:53 AM (TETYm)
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 08:55 AM (J7NUM)
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 08:52 AM (J7NUM)
It's what Al Sharpton said happened that counts.
But the police said he was going for a loaded, stolen Taurus .22 that was in the center of the seat.
But again, that doesn't matter.
Posted by: RWC - Shopping for Justice! at December 16, 2014 08:55 AM (fWAjv)
All Property originates from the state so the state is to blame...
//MattY Glesias
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:55 AM (/4AZU)
Two uniformed 15th Police District officers stopped Tate-Brown because he was driving without headlights, police said. When the officers approached the car, a Dodge Charger with Florida tags, they saw a handgun on its center console.
The officers asked Tate-Brown to get out of the car, and when he did, a struggle began. He broke free from the officers and forced his way to the passenger side of the vehicle, where he tried to retrieve the handgun, said Lt. John Stanford, a police spokesman.
That's when one of the officers fired, hitting Tate-Brown once in the head, police said. He was pronounced dead at the scene at 3:05 a.m.
http://tinyurl.com/SoItBeginsBrotherlyLove
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at December 16, 2014 08:55 AM (zxQ4h)
Had a stolen handgun in the car...
Posted by: anon a mouse at December 16, 2014 08:55 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Bigby's Hand Sanitizer at December 16, 2014 08:55 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 08:55 AM (TSuBZ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 16, 2014 08:56 AM (wVBo0)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 16, 2014 08:56 AM (Zmw74)
Oh, right. Payday.
Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2014 08:56 AM (UzPAd)
It was a clean shoot in all likelihood but you know what I am fully prepared to let Law Enforcement deal with the horsefuckery their political allies are levying on them.
Have fun FOP you're about to be reminded why you voted GOP all those years.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:57 AM (/4AZU)
One officer opened fire, striking the victim in the head.
The officers called medics who arrived and loaded Tate-Brown into an ambulance but he died a short time later.
Police remained on the scene - closing Frankford Avenue from Magee to Unruh avenues until nearly 7 a.m. - as they searched for clues. They found eight bullets in the gun, which investigators say was stolen in July 2013.
He was really on his way to choir practice with his hands up the whole time.
Posted by: RWC - Shopping for Justice! at December 16, 2014 08:57 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: anon a mouse at December 16, 2014 08:57 AM (/jpU8)
A cop that shoots well?
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2014 08:57 AM (TETYm)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 16, 2014 08:56 AM (wVBo0)
All ex-cons have weapons. They know where to get them. It's only us law abiding patriotic Americans who have trouble getting guns
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 16, 2014 08:57 AM (Zmw74)
I'm in favor of Hawaii or Michigan...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:57 AM (/4AZU)
.223 itself is the original varmint round...
Posted by: Sven
---------------
That will come as quite a surprise to varmint shooters who were around for decades before the .223 was developed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2014 08:57 AM (F2IAQ)
It's been that way for at least a decade. I have many friends and family members that are in LE.
Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 16, 2014 08:57 AM (XzRw1)
Posted by: anon a mouse at December 16, 2014 08:57 AM (/jpU
He worked for Hertz
Posted by: RWC - Shopping for Justice! at December 16, 2014 08:59 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 08:59 AM (TSuBZ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 16, 2014 08:59 AM (wVBo0)
You know what I mean Hammer....
"the original widespread militarily applied varmint round"...
YMMV....
God knows I am known for either being too long winded, too cryptic in brevity, or too incoherent....
I have to maintain standards.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 08:59 AM (/4AZU)
http://tinyurl.com/mh6rjet
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 16, 2014 09:00 AM (NeFrd)
Pakistan's ISI invented, financed, and supported the Taliban.
Progressives talk about blowback. This is Blowback.
And the next time one of ISI's creatures attack India, Pakistan will find out what thermonuclear blowback feels like.
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 09:00 AM (J7NUM)
Blah blah blah blah blah
Posted by: RWC - Shopping for Justice! at December 16, 2014 09:00 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 16, 2014 09:01 AM (wVBo0)
Posted by: maddogg at December 16, 2014 09:01 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 16, 2014 09:01 AM (NeFrd)
Zactly. They haven't helped with, well, anything. They're equally responsible for the destruction of our little Country, so leaving em high and dry is A-OK by me.
Posted by: Bigby's Hand Sanitizer at December 16, 2014 09:01 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 08:59 AM (TSuBZ
#I'llRideWithYou
#YouShotMarvinInTheFace!
Posted by: RWC - Shopping for Justice! at December 16, 2014 09:02 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Sven S Blade
Fixed for what it really is.
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 09:02 AM (EqSfr)
Doesn't answer the question, as employees don't get to drive the cars around...
Posted by: anon a mouse at December 16, 2014 09:02 AM (/jpU8)
If we are skeptical of the cops and then reflexively back them when the victim is black, it wouldn't be unreasonable for people to think that this is racism.
I am with Mark Steyn on this. The cops kill too many people (and dogs). They have near complete immunity with what they do. And when they do it to support the State instead of the people it is dangerous.
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 09:02 AM (Rx8ML)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 16, 2014 09:03 AM (2cS/G)
Pakistan's ISI invented, financed, and supported the Taliban.
Progressives talk about blowback. This is Blowback.
And the next time one of ISI's creatures attack India, Pakistan will find out what thermonuclear blowback feels like.
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 09:00 AM (J7NUM)
They are also claiming it is revenge for that girl who got shot in the head getting the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 16, 2014 09:03 AM (Zmw74)
Posted by: George Orwell at December 16, 2014 09:03 AM (1BQGO)
.223 itself is the original varmint round...
Posted by: Sven
---------------
That will come as quite a surprise to varmint shooters who were around for decades before the .223 was developed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2014 08:57 AM (F2IAQ)
.223 has a complicated history. It was chosen because two schools of thought merged at the same time: the "wound shock" people and the "I need to carry more bullets" folks.
But, it became an ok varmint round due to its ubiquity.
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2014 09:03 AM (TETYm)
It's only a problem when one confuses "law enforcement" with "law and order"
They are not synonyms.
Posted by: anon a mouse at December 16, 2014 09:04 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Bilbo at December 16, 2014 07:51 AM (Ua6T/)
We definitely need to get rid of hospitals.
Posted by: Dandolo at December 16, 2014 09:04 AM (0XBx+)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
--------------------------
I'll probably complain about this a few more times. Our health insurance went up over $1000 for next year.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2014 09:04 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 09:05 AM (Rx8ML)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 16, 2014 08:57 AM (Zmw74)
Especially you rabble-rousing Joooos.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2014 09:05 AM (Zu3d9)
Drive around at 2:45 am.
Drive around no headlights
Drive around with gun in clear view
Stop for police on foot patrol? WTF?
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at December 16, 2014 09:05 AM (zxQ4h)
Two uniformed 15th Police District officers stopped Tate-Brown because he was driving without headlights, police said. When the officers approached the car, a Dodge Charger with Florida tags, they saw a handgun on its center console.
The officers asked Tate-Brown to get out of the car, and when he did, a struggle began. He broke free from the officers and forced his way to the passenger side of the vehicle, where he tried to retrieve the handgun, said Lt. John Stanford, a police spokesman.
That's when one of the officers fired, hitting Tate-Brown once in the head, police said. He was pronounced dead at the scene at 3:05 a.m.
http://tinyurl.com/SoItBeginsBrotherlyLove
Posted by: SE Pa Moron at December 16, 2014 08:55 AM
Glad to hear the cops did not go with no comment. Massad Ayoob has a video on his web-site saying the police saying no comment is the most dangerous thing they can do. I agree, No Comment sounds like 'we are covering up.'
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 09:06 AM (J7NUM)
ENTRUSTED, yeah that's it . . he was entrusted with it
Posted by: McCool at December 16, 2014 09:06 AM (TQxRy)
A cop that shoots well?
Had one in Austin drop a perp from 100 yards, one shot, S&W .40 cal., while holding the reins of two horses.
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 09:06 AM (EqSfr)
Posted by: RWC - Shopping for Justice! at December 16, 2014 09:06 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 09:07 AM (TSuBZ)
Progressive hypocite
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 16, 2014 09:07 AM (Zmw74)
No, was it good?
Wife worked late and I was engaged in monkeyshines on twatter...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 09:08 AM (/4AZU)
Not at 2:45 am
Posted by: anon a mouse at December 16, 2014 09:08 AM (/jpU8)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 16, 2014 09:09 AM (wVBo0)
He was a VERY industrious Hertz employee...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 09:10 AM (/4AZU)
Hi-ho, hi-ho, just doin' Allah's work.
Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2014 09:10 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Mike Hammer
And I won't blame you one bit if you do.
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 09:12 AM (EqSfr)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 16, 2014 09:13 AM (Zmw74)
Hi-ho, hi-ho, just doin' Allah's work.
Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2014 09:10 AM
Your CO-Religionists Children.
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 09:13 AM (J7NUM)
It's green on green....
and as sad as I am as a parent for the kids Jackie the Paki was cheering for Tali Tim while he was killing my neighbors on their deployments...
I wish Islam was hurled into the sun.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 09:13 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Kam582 at December 16, 2014 09:14 AM (7AkYp)
Sure that wasn't a 41 Long Colt in 1875?
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2014 09:14 AM (TETYm)
Ship's library is well stocked in everything except books on how to conduct a criminal investigation. So librarian recommends the XO read or watch the works of Raymond Chandler or Alfred Hitchcock.
Ship's captain has a wife. But strangely there is no mention of them having children. And since its SyFy various people are schleping around in other spousal beds.
Want be to go on and really open the can of spoilers and goofs?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 09:15 AM (TSuBZ)
I have it Tivo'd. Is it any good?
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 09:15 AM (EqSfr)
Posted by: Bezos Gates & Zuckerberg LLC at December 16, 2014 09:16 AM (XzRw1)
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 09:13 AM (/4AZU)
Workin' on it!!!!
Posted by: YHWH at December 16, 2014 09:16 AM (E4lP3)
The trailer reminds me of Bioshock in space.
"Somewhere....beyond the sea....."
Posted by: EC at December 16, 2014 09:16 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Kam582 at December 16, 2014 09:14 AM (7AkYp)
It's pretty obvious your AR doesn't have the thingy that goes up.
+1000 fps.
Posted by: EC at December 16, 2014 09:18 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 16, 2014 09:18 AM (NeFrd)
Nah, it's the SharkNado Network. Lie back and enjoy it
(we did - laughed at a few bits, then ate more popcorn)
Posted by: anon a mouse at December 16, 2014 09:18 AM (/jpU8)
Great post.
It's weird to me when onservatives who have every reason to distrust law enforcement (cf.Tea Party and the IRS) DON'T distrust the police.
Don't drink the gov't kool-aid.
Posted by: Bob's Your Uncle at December 16, 2014 09:19 AM (mOEk5)
Posted by: EC at December 16, 2014 09:19 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 16, 2014 09:19 AM (NeFrd)
Moms Demand Action(and violation of physics)....
no really that was the line I used...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 09:19 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 16, 2014 09:20 AM (wVBo0)
But, it became an ok varmint round due to its ubiquity.
Posted by: Jean
---------------------------------
Plus the inclination to develop a much lighter weapon (and ammo) than the .30 caliber weapons that were conceived for use in a European style conflict.
The .223 certainly owes it's all to the .222, which had been around for a long time, and was very popular among woodchuck, ground squirrel, and target shooters. IMHO, that round remains the better choice for that purpose simply because the rifles themselves are better suited to that application.
But that's just me.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2014 09:20 AM (F2IAQ)
Nothing matters except not being accused of racism by the racism industry. Well, time for my walk in an Oakland park...
Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2014 09:20 AM (FcR7P)
It's been terminated with extreme prejudice.
All nice and clean again. Ahhhhh.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 16, 2014 09:20 AM (JO9+V)
Jackie gave her friends phone numbers tied to spoofing service to talk to her mystery paramour.
Posted by: --- at December 16, 2014 09:20 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 16, 2014 09:19 AM (NeFrd)
You won't need that.
IYKWIMAITTYD
Posted by: The Barrel at December 16, 2014 09:20 AM (E4lP3)
Doing the hard work other politicians refuse to do.
Posted by: Bezos Gates & Zuckerberg LLC at December 16, 2014 09:21 AM (XzRw1)
You can, wife is gonna be the decider and she is still enraged over Moore destroying BSG as a "f**k you daddy" note to Dubya....
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 09:21 AM (/4AZU)
The pun gods were certain to extract vengeance sooner or later.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2014 09:22 AM (F2IAQ)
"NASA this is Capricorn One."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 09:22 AM (TSuBZ)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 16, 2014 09:22 AM (2cS/G)
Posted by: steevy at December 16, 2014 09:23 AM (v5UtH)
My old neighborhood was so rough, when we went to the drive-in movies, they pumped a few rounds into the trunk just to be sure we weren't sneaking anybody in.
Posted by: Citizen X at December 16, 2014 08:39 AM
"My old school was so tough, after they sacked the quarterback, they went after his family."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2014 09:23 AM (knoK7)
I am looking at the DVD even as I type....
He's on the 15, the 10, the 5...OH GOD THE JUICE IS LOOSE!
Remember when NASA did mighty things?
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 09:23 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 16, 2014 09:22 AM (2cS/G)
Yeah, but guys love teh crazee!!!
Once, though.
Only once.
Once is enough.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 16, 2014 09:24 AM (E4lP3)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 16, 2014 09:25 AM (Zmw74)
I'm of that school of thought. Yes, call me a conspiracy nut. IRS + NSA = shut up and do what I say.
Posted by: seems legit at December 16, 2014 09:25 AM (A98Xu)
Dunno, she is just of the opinion Sci-Fi(at the time) should have told Moore to buy his PAC man game with his own quarters in donations not donate the series as a donk PSA....
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 09:25 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: steevy at December 16, 2014 09:25 AM (v5UtH)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 09:26 AM (TSuBZ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 16, 2014 09:26 AM (wVBo0)
Sure that wasn't a 41 Long Colt in 1875?
Recent. Nutter went on shooting spree in downtown Austin. 11-28-2014
http://bit.ly/1swwazc
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 09:26 AM (/uCLT)
Forget it Jake...
Posted by: anon a mouse at December 16, 2014 09:26 AM (/jpU8)
Heh....the X-rated parody if it takes off could use that to good effect...
"full ahead....REVERSE SCOTTY....full ahead...REVERSE SCOTTY RAMMING SPEED!"
//Trisha Helfer Captain of the SS Good Times
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 09:28 AM (/4AZU)
so you're saying, er, "wait for the really kinky sex positions"?
Posted by: anon a mouse at December 16, 2014 09:28 AM (/jpU8)
The only evidence I ever needed I kept in the trunk of my car
A little hocus pocus and taadaa!!!
Posted by: Navpopojoe at December 16, 2014 09:28 AM (MaUQj)
---------
Rooster Cogburn could do it while riding.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2014 09:29 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: steevy at December 16, 2014 09:29 AM (v5UtH)
Hey-o....
serendipity my friend...
You are a true Moron.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 09:29 AM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 09:29 AM (TSuBZ)
Posted by: anon a mouse at December 16, 2014 09:30 AM (/jpU8)
Yup....
Moore's assertion was that a race that had just had ~13.75 billion people eradicated had a moral duty to follow the GC fighting machines.
and it was at that point I saw Fonzie putting on the water skis.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2014 09:31 AM (/4AZU)
369
BSG started to lose me real early.The whole " we can't tell Cylons apart
from humans " thing really turned me off.That they " tortured" a Cylon
and had morality discussions about it.Good grief.
Posted by: steevy at December 16, 2014 09:29 AM (v5UtH)
Is this the part where the Galactica soldiers were mad 'cause they the troops on Pegasus were raping their Cylon chick prisoner?
Because yes, that would be torture that we'd need to have morality discussions about. And busted skulls.
We did at least get some busted skulls out of that episode. That was pretty satisfying.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 16, 2014 09:31 AM (9LuAk)
Posted by: --- at December 16, 2014 09:31 AM (MMC8r)
Moar H1B visas, thank goodness!
Can't have anyone's wages getting out of hand.
Posted by: Bob's Your Uncle at December 16, 2014 09:32 AM (mOEk5)
Posted by: anon a mouse at December 16, 2014 09:32 AM (/jpU8)
----------------
We have fixed decks on Macy's.
It's a miracle.
Posted by: On 34th Street. at December 16, 2014 09:33 AM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 16, 2014 09:33 AM (9LuAk)
Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2014 09:33 AM (u9gzs)
If the GOP had came out hard against Immigration Reform and Amnesty in July 2014 we would have won about 2 more Senate seats and a few more House seats.
Posted by: rd at December 16, 2014 09:33 AM (J7NUM)
I think that's covered under the "infidel" exemption. And apparently, every muzzie holding a gun/bomb/machete/knife gets to decide what the definition of "infidel" is.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 16, 2014 09:34 AM (5buP8)
Or software working properly... (personal bugaboo. Yeah, I said it.)
Posted by: anon a mouse at December 16, 2014 09:34 AM (/jpU8)
If they'd only kept it closer to the usual 3000FPS, the squirrels we hunt might have a sporting chance. (Because the second amendment is just about squirrel hunting y'know.)
Posted by: 0302 at December 16, 2014 09:35 AM (N6eLE)
Posted by: rickb223 - #IWROY at December 16, 2014 09:35 AM (T6oh+)
This case is going nowhere. It may be in the court for a while (read years) tied up in motions, but, like I said, the defendants likely have good lawyers and no doubt the NRA-ILA would be on board, too, and they ave some pretty high powered talent there, too.
First MTD would be based on the Federal law which should - should - be all that is necessary to dismiss with prejudice. I would hope that the MTD also ask for attorney fees, also, since the Federal law specifically enjoins the case from even being filed - and they don't allege any of the exceptions to that, particularly negligence.
Further down the line would be a change of venue, to get it out of liberalland into a different venue that would have some of Connecticut's plentiful hunters in the jury pool.
Posted by: blaster at December 16, 2014 09:35 AM (Rx8ML)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 09:35 AM (TSuBZ)
We tortured some folks...
Posted by: Barack Adama at December 16, 2014 09:36 AM (mOEk5)
soon when they dispensed with any alien race in the known Colonial
universe. So we get Dr. Frankenstein and his monster allegory. Then
there was the whole occupation theme with the humans trapped on a
planet, but this planet was hidden in a magnetic field that should have
fried every Cylon in orbit. And then the whole 'V'GER must join with the
Creator' thread.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 09:35 AM (TSuBZ)
I stuck with it, hoping against hope that they'd do something worthwhile with the final season, but...
Disappointment springs eternal.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 16, 2014 09:36 AM (9LuAk)
Posted by: Cato at December 16, 2014 07:42 AM (J+mig)
Aw, hell no! I strongly disagree. No watering down your message or principles. You stand by it regardless, either the voters agree or they don't.
If they don't, so be it. You did what you could, but trying to tack leftward toward the mythical center won't do shit.
Posted by: KG at December 16, 2014 09:37 AM (uDCdI)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2014 09:38 AM (TSuBZ)
http://bit.ly/138NpzW
Posted by: alexthechick - The Perfect 3 and Destoyer of All at December 16, 2014 08:29 AM (mf5HN)
And I'll just leave a little something for you right here. Oh, and it's probably NSFW: http://goo.gl/WOjR9k
Posted by: physics geek at December 16, 2014 09:38 AM (MT22W)
Broken Windows are very profitable.
Posted by: Bob's Your Uncle at December 16, 2014 09:40 AM (mOEk5)
year's after all. Only $20 more per month but still, $560/month is more
than double the price of the most expensive plan I ever had to pay for
when health insurance was sold by evil capitalist Joo diamond merchant
money grubber Christ killing infidel media controlling Bolshevik world
subverters.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2014 07:11 AM (CMkNk)
HA!! Before my wife dropped her insurance, it rocketed from 765 a month to 1165 bucks a month! We are both now on Medicare, sucking off the government teat. I'm considering applying for every damned entitlement program that's available. Screw it. If you can't fight it...... You know the drill.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 16, 2014 09:48 AM (TPimP)
Posted by: EC at December 16, 2014 09:54 AM (GQ8sn)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M242_Bushmaster
Posted by: Mark at December 16, 2014 10:22 AM (1Qsuq)
Too close to home, brother. I will need a bit of advance notice.
Posted by: Erowmero at December 16, 2014 10:23 AM (go5uR)
Posted by: MTF at December 16, 2014 08:21 AM (6um35)
-----------------------------
But, at the time, the dems weren't colluding with the repubs. Right now, to take over any party, one must prevail against the whole DC collective, using a name (republican) that's fully esconced with that collective. To take over the repub party means having to take over the dems also.
Posted by: Soona at December 16, 2014 10:23 AM (G/OeJ)
There is no slang term for "coming off the bench to tackle a runner" in a football game - it is an extremely rare event in football - only happened a couple of times - so no slang.
The slang term for "tackling the quarterback behind the line of scrimmage while he is attempting to pass" is a 'sack'. There is a slang term exists to cut down on the amount of words used to describe an everyday common event - nobody invents slang for rare uncommon events.
The police slang for "fabricating evidence to use against a suspect" is 'framing'. Fabricated evidence is 'planted'. The gun used to justify a shooting when the suspect was unarmed is a 'throwdown'. The slang for "Police accepting bribery to ignore criminal behavior" is 'being on the pad'.
Do I need to go on? These events are such common every day events that there is slang for them. Some of them are so common that everyone has heard them and don't even realize they are police slang terms.
Sure, in special isolated cases police have gone to jail for fabricating evidence - when their fabrications were so transparent that there was no way to avoid seeing through them; but in the vast majority of cases the fabrications stand up.
Or am I to be accused of being an anti-police troll again for pointing out something which is obviously true?
Posted by: An Observation at December 16, 2014 10:32 AM (ylhEn)
arrgh poor editing.
What I meant is:
"There is a slang term to cut down..."
Posted by: An Observation at December 16, 2014 10:36 AM (ylhEn)
Posted by: Regmodels.ru at December 16, 2014 06:31 PM (eIfCM)
Aren't I embarrassed, I just thought she was some porn actress. I mean, that's what she looks like...
These events are such common every day events that there is slang for them.
There's a big difference between slang that develops for stuff that happens so often we just all have a name for it, and stuff that develops from internal use by a small group of people. Popular media can turn a small rarely seen slang term into common use.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 17, 2014 05:28 PM (39g3+)
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