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Baseball Thread: The Winter Meetings/Start of The Off-season (BCochran)
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.
-- Rogers Hornsby
Hello again, Horde. So apparently you folks, or at least quite a few of you, enjoyed the World Series threads and asked for an occasional baseball thread through the offseason to keep us all up to date on what's happening. CBD was kind enough to encourage that idea. So here we go....
HOLY. CRAP.
So...baseball went insane. The Winter Meetings looked like a Best Buy at 12:01am on Black Friday. The deals came fast, furious and never seemed to end. We saw huge names flying all over the place. And not just salary dumps like we're accustomed to. No, we saw teams trading value for value, star for star. There's no way I could recap everything without it looking like an Ace movie review on PEDs, so I'm just going to hit some of the high points as best I can. The very first big move of the offseason came from the Cubs. The Cubs enticed Joe Maddon to leave sunny Tampa Bay and make his home in the Windy City. Maddon is considered one of the very best managers in baseball and is a huge get for the Cubs. But that was just the start. The Cubs have focused mostly on pitching so far this offseason and started their player acquisitions with one of the biggest names out there, Jon Lester. They also added pitcher Jason Hammel and catcher Miguel Montero. The Southsiders decided that they wanted to play as well and signed pitcher Jeff Samardzija (which you college football fans may remember as a standout WR for the Fighting Irish not that long ago) as well as closer David Robertson and first baseman Adam LaRoche. The LaRoche signing raised a few eyebrows as the White Sox signed first baseman Jose Abreu just last season. I think it's clear that the biggest splash came from the Red Sox. The Sox signed Pablo Sandoval and Hanley Ramirez in quick succession. They then turned to pitching and signed Wade Miley, Rick Porcello and Justin Masterson. The Red Sox are undoubtedly stuffed to the gills with talent, but will it work? Questions are always raised about Sandoval's weight and Ramirez' attitude. Boston may be in the position of having acquired so much talent, that there aren't enough places in the lineup for all of them to be used effectively. With a locker room that many are already wondering if it can gel and work together, this could be a recipe for disaster. Or a dominant team. They'll be the most interesting team to watch in my opinion. Well, it's been right at a decade since the Marlins boug...won...their last Championship, so it must be time to open the checkbooks for a season again. The Marlins signed Giancarlo Stanton to an absolutely astronomical deal to start their off season. They continued their spending by acquiring lead off man Dee Gordon and pitchers Mat Latos and Dan Haren. The NL East is possibly the weakest division in baseball right now, so the Marlins stand a good chance of taking it this year. I'll lump the Tigers and the Padres together here as they both made similar moves. Each team went for quality over quantity. The Tigers brought in slugger Yoenis Cespedes and the Padres snagged Matt Kemp. With Cespedes being 29 and Kemp 30, both squads have the opportunity to get several high production years out of these guys. And then there are the Oakland Athletics. Billy Beane has made a name for himself, and not just inside the world of baseball, with his unorthodox style. This offseason, he's really got people scratching their heads. The A's have given up Josh Donaldson, Brandon Moss and Jeff Samardzija. Add to that the exit of free agents like Lester, Hammel, Jed Lowrie, Alberto Callaspo, Luke Gregerson and Jonny Gomes and, well, it looks like a disaster. The A's have acquired a boatload of younger talent (9 players between the ages of 18-26), as well as Billy Butler from the Royals. Whether or not Beane has lost his mind or is a genius will be one of the top stories of the next couple years. There are lots of free agents floating around out there that could make a huge impact, including James Shields, Melky Cabrera, Chase Headley, Jake Peavey, Edinson Volquez, Colby Rasmus, Kyle Kendrick, Francisco Rodriguez, Alex Rios, Jonny Gomes, Stephen Drew, Rickie Weeks and Nick Hundley. But one name is overshadowing them all, Max Scherzer. The 2013 AL Cy Young winner, in the past two years for the Tigers, has gone 39-8 with a 3.02 earned run average and tossed 434 2/3 innings. Those are incredible numbers, especially in the AL. Lester's deal with the Cubs was for 6 years and $155mil. I would expect Scherzer's ultimate deal to top that. Some rumors point to Scherzer's agent Scott Boras taking aim at landing the biggest deal ever inked for a pitcher. Clayton Kershaw currently holds that mark with a 7 year, $215mil deal. Nobody has any clue where Scherzer is going to land at the moment. There are many many many other trades and signings that have taken place, but these were the stories that seem to be heading up most of the offseason talk so far. If you're interested in every transaction made by clubs, from acquisitions to assignments to coaching moves, here you go: MLB Transactions As the offseason goes on, I'll try to make sure that I hit each MLB team at least once. Hope you folks enjoyed a little baseball talk during the dead period (which certainly hasn't been dead). If CBD approves and we don't get smacked by Ace or a Cob, I'll catch up with you guys a few more times over the next few months. Oh, and........ Spring Training CountdownComments
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Posted by: Slippery When Soothsayer at December 27, 2014 04:07 PM (XK/4h)
Posted by: Slippery When Soothsayer at December 27, 2014 04:08 PM (XK/4h)
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at December 27, 2014 04:09 PM (qR5my)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2014 04:09 PM (6fyGz)
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2014 04:10 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Yogi Bearly at December 27, 2014 04:13 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2014 04:14 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2014 04:14 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: buzzion at December 27, 2014 04:16 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Adriane the Ball & Cup Game Critic ... at December 27, 2014 04:18 PM (P+IZm)
And why can't we have more than one player on a base at a time? There's room...
Posted by: Meremortal at December 27, 2014 04:23 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2014 04:24 PM (MQEz6)
Also the highest NL team
But it's the Cubs so epic failure and heartbreak is coming
Posted by: Navycopjoe got 2 Kimbers for Xmas at December 27, 2014 04:24 PM (/88SZ)
Posted by: Shipping Container Housing for All!!! at December 27, 2014 04:24 PM (P+IZm)
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2014 04:26 PM (MQEz6)
Is that one of the Kardashians or what?
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Culture Critic ... at December 27, 2014 04:26 PM (P+IZm)
Just depends upon the moment.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 27, 2014 04:28 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: LGBTrTsCisNeg Sports Coordinator... at December 27, 2014 04:28 PM (P+IZm)
Posted by: John F Not Kerry @jfd1965 at December 27, 2014 04:28 PM (YkgV3)
It's a Kimber master carry and a master carry pro
Posted by: Navycopjoe got 2 Kimbers for Xmas at December 27, 2014 04:29 PM (/88SZ)
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2014 04:30 PM (MQEz6)
For instance, there once was no rule that the batter had to run to first after hitting the ball. A pro player refused to leave the batters box after a dink in the infield that would have been turned as a double play. Neither he nor the base runner at first left their respective spots and there was no rule 'forcing' the batter-runner to run if the batter wasn't coming to occupy first.
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at December 27, 2014 04:33 PM (qR5my)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 27, 2014 04:34 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: OregonMuse at December 27, 2014 04:35 PM (P7e2J)
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at December 27, 2014 04:35 PM (qR5my)
If you're not going to do anything to really try to be competitive, then why the hell do you deserve my attention. That also holds true for taxation.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 27, 2014 04:35 PM (AC0lD)
For instance, there once was no rule that the batter had to run to first after hitting the ball. A pro player refused to leave the batters box after a dink in the infield that would have been turned as a double play. Neither he nor the base runner at first left their respective spots and there was no rule 'forcing' the batter-runner to run if the batter wasn't coming to occupy first.
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at December 27, 2014 04:33 PM
It will still be played a thousand years from now.
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2014 04:36 PM (MQEz6)
The Marlins got hosed by the Dodgers on that Gordon trade. Dee had one hot half of a season after being a marginal player and is one dimensional. The Dodgers got their top MLB ready prospect and flipped him for Howie Kendrick, who can both hit and field. They dumped Matt Kemp's salary for a good young catcher who can hit and a high level prospect they flipped to the Phillies for Jimmy Rollins. Kershaw and Greinke will certainly appreciate the huge improvement in defense up the middle
Everyone is wondering what the hell Beane is doing with the A's, but he always seems to come out on top when everyone thinks he's taking a wrecking ball to the roster
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 04:37 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 27, 2014 04:37 PM (WNERA)
College basketball is starting into full swing.
Tennis starts in eight days.
Spring training is under two months.
All in all, not too shabby.
Oh and my WAG on the As? Sacrificing this season in order to go out and spend All The Money snarfing people up when the Red Sox starting fist fighting on the field.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ho ho ho guess what I have now? at December 27, 2014 04:37 PM (IrByp)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 27, 2014 04:37 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: fairweatherbill embracing the suckitude at December 27, 2014 04:39 PM (S8mz8)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2014 04:39 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at December 27, 2014 04:39 PM (qR5my)
Da Cubbies are tied for third to win the World Series
Also the highest NL team
But it's the Cubs so epic failure and heartbreak is coming
Make sure you take a gander at my part of the gardening thread when it goes up.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2014 04:40 PM (KAmzK)
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at December 27, 2014 04:40 PM (qR5my)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 27, 2014 04:41 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at December 27, 2014 04:42 PM (qR5my)
Major League baseball teams can only have players who grew up in or attended school within 100 miles of the pro team's stadium.
This whole deal of trading Domincans and Japanese dudes back and forth, and having guys playing for Boston who talk with an Alabama accent, just ruins the whole concept of a "local team."
In the old days, it really was much more local. Everything went downhill after the San Francisco Seals traded Joe DiMaggio -- who grew up across the bay from SF -- to the NY Yankees.
Yeah. that was 1934, but I'm till mad as hell about it!
Posted by: zombie at December 27, 2014 04:42 PM (K4YiS)
Posted by: OregonMuse at December 27, 2014 04:35 PM (P7e2J)
Wait, that's a little kid?
I thought that was Tim Lincecum trying to run out a hit.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ho ho ho guess what I have now? at December 27, 2014 04:42 PM (IrByp)
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at December 27, 2014 04:44 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 27, 2014 04:37 PM (AC0lD)
His agent is Scott Boras, and he's asking for 6 years/200 million as a STARTING point in negotiations
Only a few deep pocketed teams like the Yankees, Dodgers or Red Sox could afford not only to take the financial hit if Scherzer joins the TJ surgery club, but the "luxury tax" for going over 180 million a year in team payroll.
The Dodgers don't need him that much even if they can afford him, and the new management team wants to reduce payroll from 257 million down to 200. The Yankees don't want to blow that much more either, but there's still odds that they sign him if he doesn't stay with the Tigers. The Yanks might not be able to put together a healthy rotation in 2015
I'd say that Shields will sign either with the Red Sox or the SF Giants
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 04:45 PM (GrXXa)
That is racist. Or something not thought up yet.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 27, 2014 04:45 PM (WNERA)
So that pic of Biden staring out the window is just him missing baseball?
Posted by: votermom at December 27, 2014 04:46 PM (SNawz)
So, no Wille Mays then?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2014 04:46 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: zombie at December 27, 2014 04:42 PM (K4YiS)
Most American MLB players grew up either in California, Florida, or Texas.
It would suck for the Yankees though
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 04:48 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 04:49 PM (3jmxp)
Insert "Yankees" for my predicament.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2014 04:51 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 27, 2014 04:51 PM (l1zOH)
St. Paul to Minneapolis is about 10 miles. At least our team will have a manager and a first baseman.
Posted by: Paul Molitor at December 27, 2014 04:52 PM (S8mz8)
Then again, the Wilpons headed off a mutiny against Selig by convincing enough owners to vote against his ouster in the previous decade
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 04:52 PM (GrXXa)
I'd say that Shields will sign either with the Red Sox or the SF Giants
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 04:45 PM (GrXXa)
The Yankees rotation will be fine.
Sabathia, Tanaka, Nova, Pineda....
And please, if there is God, let Shields sign with the Red Sox.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2014 04:55 PM (Zu3d9)
Heh.
OT - Just received a Groupon email. Subject line : "Gift Yourself. Guaranteed Delivery by Christmas 2015"
Well..., gee, I'd better jump right on that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 27, 2014 04:55 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: fairweatherbill at December 27, 2014 04:56 PM (S8mz8)
The difference is astounding. The sound of a wooden bat on ball is a beautiful thing......
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2014 04:58 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 04:49 PM (3jmxp)
Down here, the Tampa Bay Rays owner threatened to sell the team to owners who would move them out of the area if the St Pete council didn't vote yes on allowing them to break the lease on The Trop and look for new locations in Hillsborough County
The council voted no, so who knows now. Can't say I blame the owner too much for wanting a new park, the Trop is a fixed dome and the interiors have all the charm of a giant warehouse
The Braves convinced politicians in the northern suburbs to build them a brand new park even though Turner Field is only 20 years old and has all the amenities other than being in downtown Atlanta. Their owners said they wanted a park "closer to their fan base" which I assume translates to "our fans are scared shitless of the neighborhood Turner Field is in and won't come to night games"
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 04:59 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: Aviator at December 27, 2014 04:59 PM (3rrMW)
I'm no James Andrews, but everything points toward that UCL coming unglued early in the season.
I hope not, because I love watching excellent pitching.
-How 'bout them Padres?!? ...and they didn't even have to give up Matt Wisler. *wow!*
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:00 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 05:01 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: Navycopjoe got 2 Kimbers for Xmas at December 27, 2014 05:01 PM (/88SZ)
And they are bringing out for this season
Posted by: Navycopjoe got 2 Kimbers for Xmas at December 27, 2014 05:03 PM (/88SZ)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 27, 2014 05:05 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 27, 2014 05:05 PM (z+4T3)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 27, 2014 05:06 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at December 27, 2014 05:08 PM (rwI+c)
Castro, Baez, Alcantara and Russell?
I loves me some Kris Bryant at third. Maybe not this season, but he's on his way. He and Rizzo holding down the corners is sweet, sweet stuff!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:09 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2014 05:12 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2014 05:12 PM (Zu3d9)
*shoves lemon bars thru USB for you*
Posted by: alexthechick - Ho ho ho guess what I have now? at December 27, 2014 05:13 PM (IrByp)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:00 PM (16bOT)
Do we need to take this outside?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:13 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: FOAF at December 27, 2014 05:13 PM (eVemY)
Any team can have a bad century 107 years. (Apologies George Will)
Posted by: FOAF at December 27, 2014 05:14 PM (eVemY)
-Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:13 PM (Zu3d9)
That's where I keep the beatdowns, but okay ...lol.
You missed the phrase "I hope not" in that post, I guess!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:15 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: FOAF at December 27, 2014 05:15 PM (eVemY)
The Wilpons are pathetic.
And...I have a friend who knew Jeff and who assures me that he is fcuking nuts.
Which explains a lot.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:15 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: big al at December 27, 2014 05:16 PM (3MNCs)
Tanaka and Betances are pretty much the only things I am looking forward to, so please, let me dream until May.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:17 PM (Zu3d9)
-Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 04:41 PM (0FSuD)
-Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 05:16 PM (0FSuD)
Yeah... we get it. Take a shower.
-You smell like vinegar.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:18 PM (16bOT)
Two words. Bobby Bonilla.
The Mets will be paying him $1.2 million per year until 2035. He last played for them in 2009.
He takes real men of genius to agree to that kind of contract.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2014 05:19 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: oldgeezer at December 27, 2014 05:19 PM (+uiwA)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Warlord of the Western Wastes at December 27, 2014 05:19 PM (m9V0o)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2014 05:20 PM (g1DWB)
-Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:17 PM (Zu3d9)
Betances is a beast. I think he had the highest K-rate of anyone last season.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:20 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: oldgeezer at December 27, 2014 05:19 PM (+uiwA)
Luckily there's only one MLB team in Chicago......
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:20 PM (Zu3d9)
And a wonderful attitude. He is a keeper. One reason why they didn't fight for Robertson.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:21 PM (Zu3d9)
-Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2014 05:19 PM (g1DWB)
*HAH!* We stopped paying Andre "Thunder" Thornton in the late Nineties when he played in the late Seventies and early Eighties!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:23 PM (16bOT)
-You smell like vinegar.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:18 PM (16bOT)
I am so stealing that.
From the corner of Carnegie and Ontario . . . .
Posted by: alexthechick - Ho ho ho guess what I have now? at December 27, 2014 05:23 PM (IrByp)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 05:24 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 05:24 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: myiq2xu at December 27, 2014 05:24 PM (5fSr7)
-Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:21 PM (Zu3d9)
Yup. Love watching that guy work.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:24 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 05:24 PM (KCxzN)
I would start by mandating that all players on the HoF ballot must have played in the field for x innings.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:25 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 27, 2014 05:26 PM (5pg79)
-Posted by: alexthechick - Ho ho ho guess what I have now? at December 27, 2014 05:23 PM (IrByp)
Hammy Rooooolz!
...and that phrase is all yours, my Benevolent Queen!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:26 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 05:27 PM (sdi6R)
For instance, there once was no rule that the batter had to run to first after hitting the ball. A pro player refused to leave the batters box after a dink in the infield that would have been turned as a double play. Neither he nor the base runner at first left their respective spots and there was no rule 'forcing' the batter-runner to run if the batter wasn't coming to occupy first.
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at December 27, 2014 04:33 PM (qR5my)
But where would that batter go when the next batter got up to bat?
Posted by: m at December 27, 2014 05:28 PM (G891H)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 05:28 PM (rwI+c)
The Nats have been making trades but not on the scale of other teams. The biggest was Adam Laroche, with the expectation that Zimmerman will take over first base. But there have been some interesting pickups with minor league deals, like Dan Uggla. Spring training could be VERY interesting.
Brent, thanks for the offer to do some more baseball threads. They are always welcome. The World Series threads were great.
Posted by: JTB at December 27, 2014 05:29 PM (FvdPb)
-Grow gills, so we can inhabit the seas.
-Impeach Obama.
-Saw-off California and kick it toward Japan.
-End replay.
-Make...
...oh, wait. I thought we were listing "Shit That'll Never Happen."
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:29 PM (16bOT)
He would be tagged out, but no double play if there was no force at second.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 05:30 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 27, 2014 05:30 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: AnthonyB at December 27, 2014 05:32 PM (k8ktn)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:24 PM (16bOT)
Yup.
All business. Very serious, but with no arrogance.
Here's a 98mph fastball with movement.
Here's a 78mph curveball that bounces on the plate.
Here's another fastball....99mph.
Next!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:33 PM (Zu3d9)
Sabathia, Tanaka, Nova, Pineda....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 27, 2014 04:55 PM (Zu3d9)
Sabathia is trying to recover from microfracture knee surgery, and his fastball velocity dropped to 90 before the knee went
Tananka has a partial tear in his UCL, it's unusual to pitch with that and I wouldn't bet on him getting out of spring training without needing TJ surgery
Nova is still recovering from TJ surgery from last April and isn't expected back until late June
Pineda ALWAYS breaks down, if you get 100 innings out of that guy it's a miracle
Cashman is doing the right thing trying to go with younger and controllable (cheaper) players, but who knows when Hank will step in and demand that he breaks the bank like when Hank overruled Cashman about extending A-Hole
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 05:34 PM (GrXXa)
Hate aluminum bats. If they ever allow them in MLB some pitcher is going to die.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2014 05:34 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 05:35 PM (3jmxp)
For The Show: it's ash or hickory
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 05:35 PM (KCxzN)
He would be tagged out, but no double play if there was no force at second.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 05:30 PM (rwI+c)
Oh, o.k., got it.
Posted by: m at December 27, 2014 05:36 PM (G891H)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 05:37 PM (3jmxp)
Thanks for the baseball update--the wifey has had teh Doctor Who on all day and I need to discuss something grounded in reality...a kids' game played by grown men for massive amounts of money.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 27, 2014 05:37 PM (Dhdnu)
Whatever you have against Japan, they don't deserve that.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Warlord of the Western Wastes at December 27, 2014 05:38 PM (m9V0o)
Sabathia will be an innings eater with an ERA of4. That's fine. Tanaka's MRI was interpreted very conservatively....my bet is that he will be fine. Nova will be back in late May. Pineda is healthy. That's all we can ask.
The farm system has some good strong arms, and they should be able to do at least as good a job as last year...cobbling together a staff.
The problem with the Yankees ain't pitching.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:38 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2014 05:34 PM
You've seen that vid where the collage pitcher (University of Houston, IIRC) gets beaned off an aluminum bat? I'll try to find it
Scary shit
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 05:39 PM (KCxzN)
No, haven't seen it. But I can't say I'm surprised.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2014 05:40 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: redenzo at December 27, 2014 05:41 PM (WCnJW)
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 27, 2014 05:41 PM (QZkRD)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 27, 2014 05:41 PM (Dhdnu)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 05:37 PM
The Double-Maker has been similarly re-purposed.
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 05:42 PM (KCxzN)
Where did you sit in the old stadium? We had second level tickets down the first base line (through a business associate) for a season. I have to say it was awesome though the trip there always felt a little unsafe. ( at that point I was living in Poughkeepsie)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 05:43 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: Lauren at December 27, 2014 05:44 PM (tSXq7)
I am looking for McCann to be MUCH more aggressive this year. I want to see brushback pitches and maybe a fight or two....
The Yankees are a bunch of pussies, and it pisses me off. I had hoped that McCann was going to fix that last year.
When Maddon made fun of Headley getting beaned, and the Yankees did nothing, I knew that it was over.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:45 PM (Zu3d9)
We catch the occasional game, but aren't regulars.
We've only been once since the new stadium was opened. It's really nice, but it isn't Yankee Stadium....yet.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:47 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: oldgeezer at December 27, 2014 05:19 PM (+uiwA)
My dad took me to a Tigers game in 1968, so I've got that covered.
Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 05:48 PM (sdi6R)
The Mets have a huge stash of young pitching, I hope they don't do something stupid like trade their top arms for a gimpy Tulo.
I dream of a power rotation of Harvey, deGrom, Wheeler, Syndegaard, and Matz with a young hard throwing bullpen
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 05:48 PM (GrXXa)
Give it another 50 years.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 05:48 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 27, 2014 05:49 PM (QZkRD)
-Posted by: Lauren at December 27, 2014 05:44 PM (tSXq7)
They never reported Prince Fielder's real injury last year. He actually cut his forearm and lost half-his gravy.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:49 PM (16bOT)
Yep. As I said above, one of the best young rotations in the league.
Still need an upgrade at short and a right-handed corner outfielder.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 27, 2014 05:50 PM (g1DWB)
Do I have a "Kick Me" sign on my back?
Yeah....you are 100% correct about Texiera, but I am hoping that McCann settles down a bit in his second year. He had flashes of good patient hitting last season.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:53 PM (Zu3d9)
There's a guy in NJ whose business is the mud they rub on the ball.
http://www.state.nj.us/drbc/edweb/mud.htm
Posted by: DaveA at December 27, 2014 05:54 PM (DL2i+)
-Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:53 PM (Zu3d9)
You cannot out-whine anyone from Cleveland!... lol.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:55 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:49 PM (16bOT)
I. Cannot. Stand. Him.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:56 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 05:56 PM (3jmxp)
I felt the same way about Paul O'Neil.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:57 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 05:57 PM (16bOT)
WHAT?
He's one of my favorite Yankees. And an excellent color man for the Yankees network.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:59 PM (Zu3d9)
He's one of my favorite Yankees. And an excellent color man for the Yankees network."
-Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 05:59 PM (Zu3d9)
Do you know how many times I said, "If he turns around one more time to lecture that umpire, I'm going to choke out jis entire lineage! -?
Whine-and-cry and bitch-and-moan. HOW he didn't kicked out of more games is beyond my Earthly comprehension!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 06:02 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:04 PM (rwI+c)
I laughed out loud.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:05 PM (rwI+c)
At one of the games I went to, a player was in front of me in line at a concession stand, in full uniform. You don't see that in the big leagues.
Here is an excellent book about minor league baseball:
https://tinyurl.com/mlw46op
Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 06:05 PM (sdi6R)
Traveling in the Bronx in '72 must have been interesting.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 06:06 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 27, 2014 06:07 PM (QZkRD)
I remember the subway cars were the old graffiti style.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:07 PM (rwI+c)
A) to segregated
B) not loud enough
C) to sterile
D) doesn't smell right
E) To expensive
But other than that it is just dandy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 06:09 PM (nzKvP)
WAR, what is it good for
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 06:09 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 27, 2014 06:09 PM (QZkRD)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2014 06:10 PM (60Vyp)
Oh, Heck-Yeah! MLB has made an effort, (to zombie's earlier post, #39), to bring the MiLB teams closer to the Big Ball-club.
There are a LOT of really, really nice stadiums out there with excellent venues, sweet events and decent prices. You get to see the youngsters at half-price!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 06:10 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:11 PM (rwI+c)
Heh. All I can think of is you in a car with the Warriors.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 06:11 PM (3jmxp)
The sight lines are great. Other than that, there isn't a single thing I like more than the old stadium.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 06:11 PM (Zu3d9)
Oh, and GO Cards!
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 27, 2014 06:12 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: joncelli at December 27, 2014 06:12 PM (ENczY)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:12 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 27, 2014 06:10 PM (60Vyp)
WABBIT season!!!
Posted by: Daffy Duck at December 27, 2014 06:13 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:12 PM (rwI+c)
Suck it up.
If you want a win, then pitch the whole damned game.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Yankee Fan at December 27, 2014 06:13 PM (Zu3d9)
Father928 was with us and he was a very large and menacing man in '72. My brothers and I were not small either.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:14 PM (rwI+c)
WAR, what is it good for"
-Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 06:09 PM (GrXXa)
I use those stats for Fantasy Baseball, purely. It is understandable that small market teams would want to use them.
I only see a few analysts talking about them, (Brian Kenny, et. al.), but he's limited to a couple-a shows.
I get what you are saying, but I use those stats to make bank every year!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 06:14 PM (16bOT)
for less than half of what you would have paid for a MLB ticket, you can sit in the dough out & be force fed beers
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 06:14 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 27, 2014 06:14 PM (QZkRD)
I agree, but how should you score it. Not to be a dick, but I've instructed my kids that "fair" is the one four-letter word that is forbidden in our house.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 27, 2014 06:15 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:12 PM (rwI+c)
Tell me about it
Posted by: Matt Harvey at December 27, 2014 06:15 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 06:19 PM (nzKvP)
I would only apply it to starters. Middle Relievers would have to get their own stat.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:19 PM (rwI+c)
Only one-third, (9-12) of MLB teams averages over 4.50 Runs per game in any given year.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 06:20 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:20 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 27, 2014 06:21 PM (KH1sk)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 06:22 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:22 PM (rwI+c)
Seaver's opinion is that pitchers don't throw ENOUGH to build up their arms and the teams baby them too much
Seaver pitched for almost 20 years in the majors back in the day when complete games weren't an anomaly and 300 innings a year were commonplace, so I'll listen when he says something about it
Then again, Seaver isn't investing millions in these elbows holding together, but he might have something with today's pitchers being coddled
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 06:22 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:22 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 06:22 PM (GrXXa)
Seaver is not the only saying that. So is Nolan Ryan
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 06:23 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 06:23 PM (KCxzN)
-Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 06:22 PM (KCxzN)
But the probability of that is 50% of the time, all the time.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 06:24 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 27, 2014 06:21 PM (KH1sk)
LOL ... well played!
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 06:24 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: JTB at December 27, 2014 06:27 PM (FvdPb)
-Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 06:23 PM (nzKvP)
That's true. Kids are also being scouted earlier and are throwing harder curveballs and sliders than ever.
You cannot put that sort of tension on those ligaments so early. They are competing against the "freaks of nature" to get noticed.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 06:27 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: joncelli at December 27, 2014 06:12 PM (ENczY)
It is "The U" after all.
Posted by: Bob, wallet chains, etc at December 27, 2014 06:29 PM (yxw0r)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 27, 2014 06:29 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 27, 2014 06:30 PM (QZkRD)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 06:23 PM (nzKvP)
Ryan and Jerry Koosman were at that same interview, and both concurred with Seaver. All three also pitched into their 40s
Ryan was a freak of nature. I think he could have still thrown at 95 mph for 9 innings on his 50th birthday
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 06:31 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:31 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 27, 2014 06:31 PM (KH1sk)
Nolan Ryan whips Jesse Ventura's ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIZB9O24BEE
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 06:31 PM (KCxzN)
Super-Thanks to BC for writing it! Solid RBI Double off-the-wall in right!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 06:31 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 27, 2014 06:32 PM (QZkRD)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 06:32 PM (16bOT)
The first is Rick Monday recovering our Flag...
I'll find it
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 06:36 PM (KCxzN)
Trend-lines are your friends.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 06:38 PM (16bOT)
Nolan Ryan whips Jesse Ventura's ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIZB9O24BEE
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 06:31 PM (KCxzN)
ROBIN Ventura.
Posted by: joncelli at December 27, 2014 06:39 PM (ENczY)
I'll find it."
-Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 06:36 PM (KCxzN)
Hell Yeah! To Hell with those Filthy Hippies!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 06:39 PM (16bOT)
-Posted by: joncelli at December 27, 2014 06:39 PM (ENczY)
*HAH!* I didn't even notice that! Maybe a Chris Kyle video will turn-up?
...I can dream.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 06:40 PM (16bOT)
Thanks for all of the Scherzer information!
***
For everyone out there, yeah, it's an incredible long shot to win, but MLB.com does have their FREE Beat the Streak' contest where select one or two players a day to get a hit. If you get 57 players in a row that get hits, you win $5.6 million.
It's a silly, fun way to waste a few minutes a day on baseball, and you never know. I gotta say, it really makes you think how truly amazing it is to get hits in 56 consecutive games.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 27, 2014 06:41 PM (AC0lD)
Also funny: The St. Louis Blues: the Chicago Cubs of hockey.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 27, 2014 06:41 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 06:41 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2014 06:42 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 06:42 PM (KCxzN)
Motte is probably done. So is Neshek, and the Astros signed him for 2 years.
If you want to contend, you gotta do better than picking up your opponents' castoffs.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2014 06:45 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 06:45 PM (3jmxp)
Poste by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 06:41 PM
my bad...Robin, Jesse, whatever. Both deserve to have Nolan f'n Ryan punch their siht out. AmIright?
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 06:46 PM (KCxzN)
I'm picturing Nolan with a double headlock.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 06:49 PM (3jmxp)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrV8QPQAhxo
It gets awfully dusty when you watch if
Thank you, that was a gift. It gives me hope that this grand experiment will continue.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 27, 2014 06:51 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 06:51 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2014 06:51 PM (Dj0WE)
Got called out today to pick up a piece of equipment from a drilling rig that's slated to join the mothball fleet....as it were. A semi large drilling company is scaling back it's presence in Pennsylvania, you see. In part....downward pressure on NG prices. Also, our new governor has promised to share the Pot of Gold fracking represents with just everyone. Except those that do the actual work....or did.
So they're packing up, and moving to greener pastures, like Ohio, and Indiana. Even West Virginia.
If Tom, "The Drooling Idiot", Wolfe really wanted to share this pot of gold, he would have cut taxes on the gas industry, and tied future tax rates to the retail price of NG.
But no.....I guess PA can do without that revenue, or those jobs.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at December 27, 2014 06:52 PM (0IhFx)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 27, 2014 06:54 PM (5buP8)
-Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2014 06:51 PM (Dj0WE)
*HAH!*
That whole post-season was 1980 & 1986-esque!
-Spectacular!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 06:54 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 06:49 PM
That's the bestest part of it, Bob.
OK, I threw some "chin-music" & hit you in the back. My bad.
You're gonna charge the mound? Really?
I may mention that I have a lawn what you should stay off of.
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 06:55 PM (KCxzN)
less of a question, more of an advisory
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 07:00 PM (KCxzN)
**Cough**
Sorry, there isn't anyone in the last 30 years who can honestly be said to have not been tainted by the PED era.
Every last one of them is guilty until proven innocent, ESPECIALLY anybody who was playing at a high level long after their mid 30s.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2014 07:00 PM (Dj0WE)
less of a question, more of an advisory."
-Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 07:00 PM (KCxzN)
*tapes-over USB ports*
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:01 PM (16bOT)
Poste by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 06:41 PM
my bad...Robin, Jesse, whatever. Both deserve to have Nolan f'n Ryan punch their siht out. AmIright?
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 06:46 PM (KCxzN)
The name confusion reminds me of the 80s when Tim McCarver was Ralph Kiner's broadcast partner with the Mets games. Ralph was Yogi Berra's equal when it came to malaprops, and he called him "Tim MacArthur". McCarver retorted "that's DOUGLAS MacArthur, Ralph"
Don't be fooled by the malaprops though, Kiner had a sharp mind for baseball and ran circles around McCarver when it came to making the game interesting and knowing what he was talking about.
Kiner passed away last summer and a big part of my boyhood was the voice of Ralph Kiner.
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 07:01 PM (GrXXa)
One of my modern favorites was Dante Bichette. Body like Babe Ruth, swashbuckler. Walk-off home runs and hits seemed a specialty.
Plus, when the announcer would say his name as he headed for the plate, it just sounded cool.
DAWN-Te bi-SHET!
In other news, it's a crisp 7 degrees at 5PM. Going to get chilly tonight on Colorado's western slope.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 27, 2014 07:02 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 27, 2014 06:54 PM
Dude, he'll throw vapor past any one of us when he's 87.
Or 93
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 07:03 PM (KCxzN)
What time is my appointment?"
-Posted by: The American Public at December 27, 2014 07:01 PM (0FSuD)
That's about right. Don't you have a putrid vagina to cleanse?
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:06 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at December 27, 2014 07:07 PM (CYvEa)
My boy loves that stuff.
Also SEC 1-0.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 07:07 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:06 PM (16bOT)
That's Humma's job.
Posted by: The American Public at December 27, 2014 07:07 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 27, 2014 07:07 PM (3jmxp)
What time is my appointment?"
-Posted by: The American Public at December 27, 2014 07:01 PM
we did colonoscopies like two or three days ago
please try to keep up
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 27, 2014 07:09 PM (KCxzN)
Plus, when the announcer would say his name as he headed for the plate, it just sounded cool.
DAWN-Te bi-SHET!"
-Posted by: Meremortal at December 27, 2014 07:02 PM (1Y+hH)
I loved that whole piecemeal Rockies team in ...'95, was it? Pre-humidor Beasts of Blast!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:09 PM (16bOT)
The only trade that Preller pulled off that I think he got the better part of was the trade of a handful of middling prospects for one year of Justin Upton, and that's if the Padres manage to re-sign J-Up
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 07:11 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:09 PM (16bOT)
That's about right. Reminds me of a guy from way back, with the farm team I think. Name was Boccabella.
They painted an outifield seat for him that he hit with a ball to win some big game.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 27, 2014 07:13 PM (1Y+hH)
What time is my appointment?
Posted by: The American Public at December 27, 2014 07:01 PM (0FSuD)
You are a rat. A commie pinko rat!!!
Posted by: George Will at December 27, 2014 07:15 PM (W5DcG)
Porcello is still young and controllable and has quite a bit of upside. Cespedes is another one dimensional player with a prima donna attitude who has declared that he will definitely test the free agent market next year. His contract has a clause in it that unlike most FA's, he cannot be given a Qualifying Offer and therefore the Tigers wouldn't even get a compensation draft pick
Porcello has every chance of being as good as or better than James Shields in my opinion
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 07:16 PM (GrXXa)
A LOT of question marks, indeed. Upton, Kemp, Myers, Middlebrooks, Gyorko, Barmes and D. Norris.
I like the moves, though. Keeping Matt Wisler throughout that frenzy bodes well for the future pitching staff.
They were only four games below .500 last season with the shittiest offense in MLB.
Sound and Fury signifying nothing? ...perhaps. I don't disagree with much of what you've written.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:22 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Viscitudes and Vituperations Half Off at the Outrage Outlet! at December 27, 2014 07:22 PM (g+akU)
I wondered where he went after Welcome Back Kotter.
Posted by: fluffy at December 27, 2014 07:23 PM (Ua6T/)
What time is my appointment?
Posted by: The American Public at December 27, 2014 07:01 PM (0FSuD)
You are a rat. A commie pinko rat!!!
Posted by: George Will at December 27, 2014 07:15 PM (W5DcG)
(I hear he wears jeans, too. Actual dungarees shipped straight from hell's heart.)
Posted by: Bob, wallet chains, etc at December 27, 2014 07:23 PM (yxw0r)
Scully started doing Dodger games when they were still in Brooklyn, which is longer than many of us have been alive
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 07:23 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:25 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Slappy at December 27, 2014 07:28 PM (Am9Tn)
Posted by: votermom at December 27, 2014 07:29 PM (cbfNE)
-Posted by: Bob Costas at December 27, 2014 07:25 PM (0FSuD)
Look. Michael, "Shecky" Anthony Richards is here to berate the crowd.
Quality observations to follow...
...soon.
...any day now.
...seriously.
...I'll wait.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:29 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Viscitudes and Vituperations Half Off at the Outrage Outlet! at December 27, 2014 07:22 PM (g+akU)
But they'll never be Royals
Posted by: Lorde at December 27, 2014 07:29 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 07:23 PM (GrXXa)
Vin Scully? Never heard of him.
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at December 27, 2014 07:30 PM (Am9Tn)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 07:34 PM (rwI+c)
I agree that the deal was too long. ...as it were. (Wrong-side of thirty and all.)
Three years is all they need, however. He's also got the type of "stuff" to become a Bullpen-Ace after those three years.
If the Cubs have to "eat" some of that contract, it may not all be for naught. His N.L. stats should provide the value that they are looking for during this perceived "Five-Year Window".
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:35 PM (16bOT)
-Posted by: votermom at December 27, 2014 07:29 PM (cbfNE)
*HAH!* Actually funny!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:36 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 07:37 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 07:38 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 27, 2014 07:38 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2014 07:38 PM (6hrmc)
* snap *
Aluminum, or wooden bats?
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Wooden is my favorite.
And Mike, thanks for the posting tip
Posted by: bossy barbara at December 27, 2014 07:40 PM (l1zOH)
-Posted by: Meremortal at December 27, 2014 07:38 PM (1Y+hH)
That happened years ago on every baseball thread. It isn't even amusing to the Non-Baseball Horde anymore.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:40 PM (16bOT)
IIRC, he opened the wine bottle at 9a today.
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2014 07:41 PM (6hrmc)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 27, 2014 07:43 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 27, 2014 07:43 PM (vPh3W)
You don't like baseball, WE GET IT
Do you go to The Olive Garden and tell them over and over that you hate Italian food?
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 07:43 PM (GrXXa)
GUN THREAD"
-Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 07:42 PM (0FSuD)
That's your funniest post because it is often quite true ...lol.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:44 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 27, 2014 07:45 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:35 PM (16bOT)
I think you nailed the thinking by Epstein and Chicago. Lester has proven to be fairly reliable in big games and moving to the NL where he doesn't have to face a DH should help him. I still think it's too much to pay for the guy. Based on the economics of baseball, the per-year amount is reasonable, but I still think it's ridiculous for teams to be spending this much for any player, especially ones that only play every fourth or fifth day.
I'm a lifelong Red Sox fan and winning the 2013 World Series was probably the biggest surprise I've seen in baseball in some time. I was hoping more teams would adopt the Red Sox approach after that and focus on value and team chemistry instead of huge contracts, but it fell apart for the Red Sox last year so I think most teams looked at their approach as a fluke. They may be right, though baseball is the one sport where it's difficult for flukes to occur since the season is so long and the playoff series are multiple games, not a single game like the Super Bowl in football.
Posted by: Slappy at December 27, 2014 07:45 PM (Am9Tn)
-Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 07:43 PM (GrXXa)
*HAH!*
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:45 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Pedro Cerrano at December 27, 2014 07:46 PM (Am9Tn)
Surprisingly good. I expected ASU to walk off with it.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 07:48 PM (rwI+c)
Oh? Arizona beat the Dookies? Ah, well....
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 27, 2014 07:50 PM (vPh3W)
-Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2014 06:51 PM (Dj0WE)
*HAH!*
That whole post-season was 1980 & 1986-esque!
-Spectacular!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 06:54 PM (16bOT)
I don't remember 2011 or 1986 as well as I remember 1980.
The NLCS was a best of 5 series at the time.
The Phillies won Game 1 in 9 innings behind Steve Carlton.
The Astros won games 2 & 3.
The Phillies won games 4 & 5, and thus the series.
Games 2, 3, 4, and 5 **ALL** went extra innings.
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1980/YPS_1980.htm
It's a good thing I was a youngster when that happened. If I had to watch those games today I would surely die of a stroke.
Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 07:51 PM (sdi6R)
The biggest oddity in baseball are the bullpens. It is an "X"-Factor that comes out of nowhere to either propel a team or kill it.
It is often "no-names" that wind-up anchoring that playoff spot and carrying it forward. Journeymen and rookies are often the stupidest of "glues" that solidify a roster.
Starters are your Backbone. Offense is the muscle. Defense is the nervous system. Managers and "chemistry" are the Heart.
Bullpens are the skeletal structure.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:53 PM (16bOT)
Anna is the batshit crazy ex-wife of former Pirates/Mets/Orioles pitcher Kris Benson. She's got 80 boobs but a 20 brain and is exhibit A in why your dad told you "never stick your dick in crazy". The 4th pic is the outfit she wore to the Mets annual children's Christmas party.
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/519673244475300792/
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/312085449148727194/
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/576108977305684485/
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/247135098273819595/
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 07:53 PM (GrXXa)
http://tinyurl.com/ldgcr58
It always aggravated me that announcer Joe Garagiola spent so much time slobbering over Gary Carter's tag instead of Parker's throw. Yes, Carter made a good play, too, but the throw was unbelievable.
Posted by: Slappy at December 27, 2014 07:54 PM (Am9Tn)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 27, 2014 07:56 PM (/9Mak)
-Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 07:51 PM (sdi6R)
*HAH!*
I forgot that 1991 was also an excellent post-season. That's because I don't remember much of anything from '91-'94.
...so there's that.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:57 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 07:57 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 27, 2014 07:58 PM (/9Mak)
Posted by: LGBTrTsCisNeg Sports Coordinator... at December 27, 2014 07:58 PM (P+IZm)
http://tinyurl.com/ldgcr58
-Posted by: Slappy at December 27, 2014 07:54 PM (Am9Tn)
One of the Top-Five arms in MLB history.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:58 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 07:57 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 07:59 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:53 PM (16bOT)
The Tigers had a bad case of osteoporosis the last couple of years
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 08:00 PM (GrXXa)
-Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 27, 2014 07:56 PM (/9Mak)
Yeah... I'm in my glory... lol.
...but Cochran isn't even here to appreciate it! Neither is Donna V, nor Tammy-al Thor.
-gay smileys.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:00 PM (16bOT)
-Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 08:00 PM (GrXXa)
Nicely Played!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:01 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: stephen livingston seagull at December 27, 2014 08:01 PM (UFPdl)
Posted by: Adriane the Sports Critic ... at December 27, 2014 08:02 PM (P+IZm)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 07:52 PM
Ah, correct. 9 my time. I remembered 'coz you said wife gave crap and you were going to double up. I lol'd.
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2014 08:03 PM (6hrmc)
Posted by: Adriane the Sports Critic ... at December 27, 2014 08:02 PM (P+IZm)
Yeah probably and that is inspite of having 2 of the biggest liberal assholes in it. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 08:05 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 07:53 PM (16bOT)
All good points. Multiple guys had career years that year (e.g., Will Middlebrooks, Daniel Nava, Clay Buchholz, Koji Uehara, etc.) and their whole bullpen was unbelievable, especially based on what it looked like before the season started.
Posted by: Slappy at December 27, 2014 08:05 PM (Am9Tn)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 08:06 PM (rwI+c)
Navycopjoe got 2 Kimbers for Xmas at December 27, 2014 04:24 PM (/88SZ)
Is that one of the Kardashians or what?
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Culture Critic ... at December 27, 2014 04:26 PM (P+IZm)
It's one of the more ridiculously overpriced variants of the generally ridiculously overpriced Colt 1911 type of semi-automatic pistol.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 27, 2014 08:09 PM (6fyGz)
What's the deal, I go to check out the pics and they want me join? I want to enjoy not join.
Posted by: Ronster at December 27, 2014 08:09 PM (9vrWU)
I heard Jack Morris as a tv analyst for the Blue Jays a few times the last year. He was good and very interesting to listen to.
I boycotted baseball for 20 years or so after the World Series was cancelled so all of my baseball memories are 20 years plus old. But I remember Jack Morris was one hell of a competitor and you knew it was going to be a tough day for your team when he was the opposing pitcher.
Hall of Fame material? I kind of think so. He was the dominant pitcher for years in the AL East when it was comprised of 7 teams, most of them tough.
Work to do. Later all.....
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 27, 2014 08:09 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Adriane the Sports Critic ... at December 27, 2014 08:02 PM (P+IZm)
I would agree. "The Natural" and "Eight Men Out" were pretty close behind it. I hate to say it but "The Bad News Bears" is one of my favorites because I was a kid playing Little League baseball when I first saw it in the mid-70s.
Posted by: Slappy at December 27, 2014 08:10 PM (Am9Tn)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 27, 2014 07:58 PM (/9Mak)
Well, she broke into her ex's home and demanded 30K from him at gunpoint
http://tinyurl.com/mb6thvx
Dad pretty much anticipated shit like that happening
She's got a long history. She's not just batshit crazy but dangerous crazy
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 08:11 PM (GrXXa)
.... aaaand that's why when people call me "Slappy", I try to correct them. I knew that you were here long before me, making good points as a Member in Good Standing!
I don't want my old "Slapweasel" nomenclature to be confused with a quality individual such as yourself!
...and Uehara has been diamond-level excellence since '13.
Is he hurt, yet? I don't remember.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:11 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Slappy at December 27, 2014 08:10 PM (Am9Tn)
I liked " Eight men Out" also.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 27, 2014 08:12 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 08:13 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Ronster
Be careful with Pinterest...you start with kdbear pics and you'll find yourself 3 hours later reading crock pot recipes.
Posted by: bossy barbara at December 27, 2014 08:13 PM (F2IAQ)
Posted by: otho at December 27, 2014 08:14 PM (tBSrv)
Posted by: Zombie Jack Buck at December 27, 2014 08:14 PM (5buP8)
That sounds sexy.
Posted by: Ronster at December 27, 2014 08:15 PM (9vrWU)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 08:16 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Ronster at December 27, 2014 08:09 PM (9vrWU)
Here's the Anna Santa pic for you from The Daily News then
http://tinyurl.com/l9oln5v
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 08:16 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 08:16 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 08:13 PM (rwI+c)
Jeez. I forgot about that one. Yes, I would add that to my short list of best baseball films.
Posted by: Slappy at December 27, 2014 08:16 PM (Am9Tn)
Posted by: seamrog at December 27, 2014 08:17 PM (4OQp6)
Posted by: Ronster at December 27, 2014 08:18 PM (9vrWU)
Posted by: I Believe the Children Are Our Future at December 27, 2014 08:18 PM (FGEvF)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:11 PM (16bOT)
Thanks for the kind words. If only my wife and my family members were that impressed with anything I have to say.
Posted by: Slappy at December 27, 2014 08:18 PM (Am9Tn)
-Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 07:43 PM (GrXXa)
Why do you ask? Do the people at Olive Garden know someone who makes Italian food?
Posted by: CQD at December 27, 2014 08:19 PM (G8YYJ)
variants of the generally ridiculously overpriced Colt 1911 type of
semi-automatic pistol.
Posted by: GGE
*murmurs something about guys 'measuring'*
*runs*
Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at December 27, 2014 08:20 PM (rhjQp)
When Vin Scully talks about "Billy Chapel" pitching...
..."And you know Steve you get the feeling that Billy Chapel isn't pitching against left handers, he isn't pitching against pinch hitters, he isn't pitching against the Yankees. He's pitching against time. He's pitching against the future, against age, and even when you think about his career, against ending. And tonight I think he might be able to use that aching old arm one more time to push the sun back up in the sky and give us one more day of summer."
..."On this day, the cathedral that is Yankee Stadium belongs to a Chapel."
I melted, man. When Vin Scully does radio broadcasts?
...you can smell the fresh-cut grass.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:20 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:21 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 08:13 PM (rwI+c)
Ex hippie gets sappy over his turbulent relationship with his dead baseball player dad, builds a field in the middle of Jerkwater Iowa, big bad banker brother tells them to sell or they'll reposses, goes to Boston to kidnap reclusive 60s radical author
Ghosts of former baseball legends play ball on his field
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 08:21 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 08:22 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 08:22 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Ronster at December 27, 2014 08:24 PM (9vrWU)
Posted by: Zombie Jack Buck at December 27, 2014 08:14 PM (5buP
Heh.
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2014 08:24 PM (6hrmc)
I never cared much for "The Natural", but the final scene was pretty good.
Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 08:24 PM (sdi6R)
-Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 08:22 PM (0FSuD)
You keep using, "banned". No one would see your posts under that (0FSuD) Hash if you were "banned".
Someone is deleting your posts. You aren't "banned"...lol.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:25 PM (16bOT)
How about those White Sox shorts, huh? I'm hoping that Francisco Barrios rebounds this year, and I'm betting that Chet Lemon and Jorge Orta each hit 20 HRs.
Posted by: Guy Trapped in the '70s at December 27, 2014 08:26 PM (Am9Tn)
-Posted by: rickl at December 27, 2014 08:24 PM (sdi6R)
I liked it a little better than "Field of Dreams", but YMMV.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:27 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: otho at December 27, 2014 08:28 PM (tBSrv)
Posted by: Tom Hanks at December 27, 2014 08:28 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 08:26 PM (0FSuD)
OK, let's not get hasty now. If you do that, you might as well have gender reassignment surgery, too.
Posted by: Slappy at December 27, 2014 08:29 PM (Am9Tn)
-Posted by: otho at December 27, 2014 08:28 PM (tBSrv)
Not bad, but completely ignored the Oakland pitching staff to make "On Base Percentage" out to be the be-all-end-all of Billy Beane's "genius".
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:29 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2014 08:31 PM (xrURQ)
rebounds this year, and I'm betting that Chet Lemon and Jorge Orta each
hit 20 HRs.
And peg-leg Bill Veeck buying us a beer in the left field bleachers. And a midget and a shower in center.....good days in the old park...lol
Posted by: dartist at December 27, 2014 08:31 PM (ahBY0)
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 08:32 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:29 PM
Eh. Have heard that it's not entirely historically accurate. Still a good story well told, for a sports movie, most of which tend to be generic by-the-numbers or overly twee. I know nothing about baseball, but, it engrossed me. Well done in a genre that's touigh to stand out in.
Posted by: otho at December 27, 2014 08:35 PM (tBSrv)
-Posted by: dartist at December 27, 2014 08:31 PM (ahBY0)
Disco Demolition Night!
...and there was never a "Nickle-Beer Night" in Cleveland. It was "Ten-Cent Beer Night".
The historical results didn't vary, but the monicker has been bastardized.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:35 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 27, 2014 08:36 PM (K4xGQ)
-Posted by: otho at December 27, 2014 08:35 PM (tBSrv)
Agreed. Good actors and decent portrayals. The tune sung by Beane's Daughter "got me", as well!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:37 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2014 08:31 PM
Here's a purty pitcher for the 'ettes.
http://tinyurl.com/lqonkg4
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2014 08:39 PM (6hrmc)
Pitchers and catchers coming out as ghey! Pink ribbons for all! Social Justice and Fingerwagging! MLB players are Teh Rapiststststs and Wymen Haterz! Ownerz are like teh KayKayKay!
The Social Jerktice crowd have yet to turn their plague-streaked eyes to the pastime but they will.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2014 08:39 PM (wr4LJ)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at December 27, 2014 08:41 PM (OWjjx)
Posted by: bossy barbara at December 27, 2014 08:42 PM (F2IAQ)
When reaching into one's ass, it is first best to ask one's self, if perhaps the act of self-fisting isn't cause for ridicule.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:43 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: seamrog at December 27, 2014 08:43 PM (4OQp6)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at December 27, 2014 08:44 PM (OWjjx)
http://tinyurl.com/nydqeh8"
-Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 08:41 PM (0FSuD)
Nice!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:45 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Infidel at December 27, 2014 08:48 PM (RZLOH)
OK, best B ball flick? Pride of the Yankees, 1942
That's mine too. And The Natural. I like the American baseball fantasy thing. The Babe pointing a homer out for a sick kid.
Posted by: dartist at December 27, 2014 08:48 PM (ahBY0)
Posted by: bossy barbara at December 27, 2014 08:42 PM
Your welcome, but ManWithNoParty gets the assist.
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2014 08:49 PM (6hrmc)
-Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at December 27, 2014 08:44 PM (OWjjx)
*HAHAHAHA!* Nothing said "ridiculous" more than being carted off the field with a career-threatening injury by a "cap-topped" golf-cart!
...followed closely by a stinky, hairy, self-absorbed mascot doing a Forrest-Gump wave!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:49 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2014 08:49 PM (6hrmc)
*****
Why, thank you Sir!
*Blushes and kicks rock*
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2014 08:50 PM (xrURQ)
Have a couple of beers and shoot the breeze with fans.
Think that will ever happen again ?
He was no superstar, just a good "d" , lefty batting catcher. ( But slow as molasses)
Outstanding guy.
Posted by: seamrog at December 27, 2014 08:53 PM (4OQp6)
When reaching into one's ass, it is first best to ask one's self, if perhaps the act of self-fisting isn't cause for ridicule.
Posted by: ColdBeer1
Way over ... or way under my head, Slappy.
It's only a matter of time before the Left marches onto the next campaign. Baseball has been pretty much untouched by our agitating betters.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2014 08:55 PM (wr4LJ)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:56 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 08:57 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Viscitudes and Vituperations Half Off at the Outrage Outlet! at December 27, 2014 07:22 PM (g+akU)
But they'll never be Royals
Posted by: Lorde at December 27, 2014 07:29 PM (GrXXa)
Beyond the music reference, it is also a Dave Barry reference; ages ago when his son was pre-little league and playing on a team. These five and six year olds would come out and try to bat and (when they ceased looking at the bugs in the grass) try to catch the ball. The article I remember because it was so cute and funny; and at that time my nephews were playing baseball and football. The helmets were so big in football (and the batting helmets in baseball) that they would turn around and the helmets never moved. To watch them grab their helmets and turn them so they could see was - it was charming.
"We're the Giants!" Yeah, you are. Good job, keep at it and walk that one off, alright?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Viscitudes and Vituperations Half Off at the Outrage Outlet! at December 27, 2014 08:58 PM (g+akU)
that would stop by one of my neighborhood taverns, after a home game.
Would have loved to have a beer with him. Knuckleball catcher. I miss Hoyt Wilhelm.
Posted by: dartist at December 27, 2014 08:59 PM (ahBY0)
I'm not "Slappy". That's a different dude.
"It's only a matter of time before the Left marches onto the next campaign. Baseball has been pretty much untouched by our agitating betters."
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2014 08:55 PM (wr4LJ)
There's a reason for that. It is the same reason that "gamers" aren't taken-in by the Left's Idiocy.
...competition and Well-Established tradition.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:59 PM (16bOT)
The level of play in 'serious' baseball movies looks too bleeping fake and slow to even remotely resemble the real thing. As a result I have a hard time buying into the authenticity of the whole thing.
Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 27, 2014 09:01 PM (tCODv)
http://tinyurl.com/k2ym87a
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:56 PM
Not positive, but I think this is another pic of Giancarlo post-operative.
http://tinyurl.com/p4qxz8l
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2014 09:03 PM (6hrmc)
I think it was Harry Carey that said a catcher should leave his mitt in the dugout and use a butterfly net, when catching a knuckleballer.
Wilbur Wood.
Posted by: seamrog at December 27, 2014 09:03 PM (4OQp6)
IT SUCKS that taxpayers subsidize owners for Interest Groups' returns.
Voters... at least it is Local, I guess. ...shit.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 09:04 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 09:06 PM (rwI+c)
-Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 27, 2014 09:01 PM (tCODv)
I whole-heartedly agree. Any sport, really. I am just lucky enough to be able to suspend disbelief just long-enough to get through most bullshit.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 09:07 PM (16bOT)
Voters... at least it is Local, I guess. ...shit.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 09:04 PM (16bOT)
******
Voters never got a shot here in Cobb County, GA to approve or disapprove of the new traffic causing hell of the New Braves Stadium. The various Pols just went and done did it, with 60+% of the Counties peeps polled being against the 500 million our county would provide.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2014 09:08 PM (OBxdH)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:37 PM
Yep. Thumbs up. Of particular note is that it was a recent film. That says something. For similar reasons as Moneyball, I really liked "Goon". Know jack shit about ice hockey, but, Goon rocked.
Posted by: otho at December 27, 2014 09:09 PM (tBSrv)
Thanks, cob-loggers.
What you do after cutting down the cobs, I dunnawannano.
Posted by: seamrog at December 27, 2014 09:12 PM (4OQp6)
For years I've meant to look up "neatsfoot oil" to find out what exactly it is. Here's the scoop: http://tinyurl.com/ar4x3eh
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 27, 2014 09:13 PM (vPh3W)
*ahem*
The Padres also got Justin Upton from the Braves, Will Myers from the Brewers, and the A's All-Star catcher.
The new GM imported an entirely new outfield in the span of about 72 hours.
Just sayin'. :-)
Posted by: Hawkins1701 at December 27, 2014 09:14 PM (1gYMM)
Is there no mechanism that allows citizens to get an initiative on the ballot to repeal county's decision?
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2014 09:15 PM (6hrmc)
Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 27, 2014 09:15 PM (tCODv)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 27, 2014 09:13 PM (vPh3W)
******
Without even looking at the link...clutch oil. Learned that way back when in a book when in a book called Cheaper by the Dozen. Mr. Galbraith swore by it.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2014 09:16 PM (o/3Hk)
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2014 09:08 PM (OBxdH)
I don't believe polls anymore. After seeing how they are manipulated, I disregard them.
Having said that, it should always be a ballot-issue. L.I.V.'s being what they are, even. My understanding of the Braves' new stadium makes economic and traffic-sense for the area.
*uuggghhh. I have to get this Statist taste out of my mouth.
*spits*
I need a beer.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 09:17 PM (16bOT)
So, off topic. I watched the 1st half of Ghost boat, then went to a wedding. came home and just finished the 2nd half. Freaky. Got to jump up at 0400 to go to work. Buenas noches, amigos.
Posted by: Erowmero at December 27, 2014 09:17 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2014 09:15 PM (6hrmc)
*******
There is a lawsuit in the Courts right now. Problem is, this was rushed in, ground has been broken and money already allocated. By the time this gets through all the various Court stalls they Will already be playing ball there.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2014 09:19 PM (xrURQ)
-Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 27, 2014 09:15 PM (tCODv)
Hanley Ramirez' attitude is going to be the "wildcard" in that deal. He is a dick.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 09:20 PM (16bOT)
I use Hubberd's Shoe Grease, which is pine tar and bees' wax, it is cheaper, more waterproof, won't go rancid, causes the brambles to slide off your boots instead of grab and you can always use your used rags as firestarters.
It used to be made in Oregon, but it is now made in Snowflake AZ.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 27, 2014 09:22 PM (t//F+)
*uuggghhh. I have to get this Statist taste out of my mouth.
*spits*
********
Anyone that could say that with a straight face (not pointing at you) has never been at one of what is already one of worst highway intersections for traffic in GA at 5:30 on a Friday evening, or any weekday at same time for that matter.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2014 09:24 PM (o/3Hk)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Warlord of the Western Wastes at December 27, 2014 09:24 PM (m9V0o)
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2014 09:25 PM (MQEz6)
-Posted by: otho at December 27, 2014 08:28 PM (tBSrv)
Not bad, but completely ignored the Oakland pitching staff to make "On Base Percentage" out to be the be-all-end-all of Billy Beane's "genius".
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 08:29 PM (16bOT)
Bingo. Also, after espousing the importance of walks and the overrating of home runs what does Hatteberg do in the movie's climax? Yep, goes yard.
Posted by: Mike in the Hinterlands at December 27, 2014 09:26 PM (KKeH2)
Posted by: dartist at December 27, 2014 09:27 PM (ahBY0)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Warlord of the Western Wastes at December 27, 2014 09:24 PM (m9V0o)
***
And flatulence. Mustn't forget the flatulence.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2014 09:27 PM (xrURQ)
Posted by: seamrog at December 27, 2014 09:28 PM (4OQp6)
Baseball?!?!?
There's no Baseball in AOSHQ!!!
J/k I like baseball.
This is the Cubs year....
For me to actually pay attention to them.
Posted by: eleven at December 27, 2014 09:28 PM (MDgS8)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 09:29 PM (rwI+c)
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2014 09:24 PM (o/3Hk)
You should point at me because I've never been in the area. By "traffic", I meant attendance. My bad.
As a "sales" guy, I think you get it.
They went from a suburban "trek" to an area with enough "impulse-buy" accessibility to appease the "Drive-Buys".
The Cleveland Cavaliers increased their revenues two-times over by moving downtown to a smaller venue.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 09:32 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Infidel at December 27, 2014 09:33 PM (RZLOH)
I need a beer.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 09:17 PM (16bOT)
Kind of pointless. The "vested interests" can always come up with enough funding put to such a proposition over the top. Paul Allen (Microsoft billionaire and owner of the Seahawks) cheerfully spent $4 million of his own money (I think he just took it out of petty cash) to get $400 million in taxpayer money to build himself a new stadium. And then sold the friggin' naming rights to somebody else for $40 million, so the stupid taxpayers have to go to CenturyLink Field instead of some venue that at least marginally acknowledges their funding of the venture.
Posted by: CQD at December 27, 2014 09:34 PM (G8YYJ)
Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 27, 2014 09:15 PM (tCODv)
Yeah, I don't really understand those moves either. Then again, two years ago I didn't quite understand what they were doing while they were putting together the 2013 team that won the World Series.
Posted by: Slappy at December 27, 2014 09:35 PM (Am9Tn)
It's better than neatsfoot oil and made in SC from bees wax.
New or old leather needs Lexol first to put moisture back in, a light coat of neatsfoot and then bee's wax like SnoSeal. Too much neatsfoot will make leather crumble and fall apart.
Posted by: dartist at December 27, 2014 09:35 PM (ahBY0)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 09:36 PM (rwI+c)
-Posted by: CQD at December 27, 2014 09:34 PM (G8YYJ)
Yeah. I know. Damnit... I go to "Progressive Field" to watch a baseball game.
I should just stick a blowtorch up my ass and pray that I don't get burned.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 09:39 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Infidel at December 27, 2014 09:40 PM (RZLOH)
Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at December 27, 2014 09:41 PM (rhjQp)
Posted by: Guy Trapped in the '70s at December 27, 2014 09:43 PM (Am9Tn)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 09:32 PM (16bOT)
*********
I understand the financial metrics for making this move. Something close to 60% of ticket sales were/are coming from Cobb and North Fulton counties, hence the move. What I object to is the obvious bullshit info put out there to support this move, and the speed at which this came down while not giving those who will ultimately pay for this clusterfark any opportunity for input into the process. Cobb County had this in the works since at least 2009, as I had some of that property until late 2011. The offers slowly went up over a 2 year period, until Satans daughter my Ex, forced a sale. Unasked, she still talks about what a great deal that was, as property ultimately went for 3x what we got.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2014 09:44 PM (xrURQ)
I've used Lexol on MB seats, but it is mighty greasy.
Didn't see yours Nip, just going by my own experiences. Depends on how dry the leather is or how much it will take.
Posted by: dartist at December 27, 2014 09:44 PM (ahBY0)
Posted by: Infidel at December 27, 2014 09:44 PM (RZLOH)
I've used Lexol on MB seats, but it is mighty greasy."
-Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:40 PM (0FSuD)
*HAH!* That means that Maet is lurking...LOL. He changed my posts after I joked about him "making me a sammich".
My posts were amended to his whim. You can't act like a jackass, I guess.
My lesson was learned!
So, Nip... how do you feel about baseball for the three-thousandth time?
LMFAO!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 09:46 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 09:47 PM (rwI+c)
IDK, could be too many kittehs in the pipes. Holiday weekend and allllll the peeps with new toys?
Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at December 27, 2014 09:47 PM (rhjQp)
Now back to read the comments.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 27, 2014 09:48 PM (vVSOO)
Posted by: irreverant Al Sharptooth at December 27, 2014 09:48 PM (4OQp6)
*HAH!*
Roger that.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 09:48 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Infidel at December 27, 2014 09:49 PM (RZLOH)
Posted by: Guy Trapped in the '70s at December 27, 2014 09:49 PM (Am9Tn)
applying. Heat shoes or heat sno seal. I usually do both. Put shoes in
oven at 200 and put the can of wax in there. When wax turns to liquid,
take it out an rub into hot shoes. Do twice. They will be waterproof as
hell. The wax does not breathe much so they will get warm.
Good advice Nip but leather doesn't like heat. Too much and that shit will cook hard as a rock and want to crack and crumble. Whatever temp warm is.
Posted by: dartist at December 27, 2014 09:52 PM (ahBY0)
Posted by: irreverant Al Sharptooth at December 27, 2014 09:52 PM (4OQp6)
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2014 09:52 PM (6hrmc)
Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at December 27, 2014 09:53 PM (rhjQp)
Posted by: The Overnight Hat at December 27, 2014 09:53 PM (/YkzI)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 27, 2014 09:53 PM (dL7q7)
Worst "improvement" to a stadium has to be the huge monstrosity in centerfield of the Oakland Mausoleum. Blocked the view of the Oakland Hills which made that ugly piece of shit at least bearable. Last year they had the pleasure of sewage flowing into the dugout and clubhouse
Shea Stadium was a dump, but it had character. Something that Citi Field for its nice aesthetics and amenities seems to lack.
Funny thing about Candlestick when the Giants played there. It was a horror for baseball but one of the best places to watch football.
Dodger Stadium still holds up well, especially since the new owners fixed the place up and paid for security to keep the gangbangers out
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 09:54 PM (GrXXa)
So, wool socks? Or neoprene?
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 09:55 PM (rwI+c)
Busch Stadium? The beer of my college years. Been an AB guy for years,
but now that InBev is cutting back on the Clydesdales in advertising
I'm reevaluating. Just glad they haven't sent the horsey's to the glue
factory, yet.
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 27, 2014 09:52 PM (6hrmc)
If they didn't have the Clydes, they'd have to get the horse pee from elsewhere.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 27, 2014 09:55 PM (dL7q7)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2014 09:56 PM (wr4LJ)
Well, since the Packers are doing well, I'll just focus on football right now. At least our football team is a serious contender.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (handing out sacks of ampersands for Christmas) at December 27, 2014 09:57 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 09:57 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:54 PM (0FSuD)
Any moderators see this? I had this happen to me awhile ago so I know what Nip Sip is going through.
Posted by: Slappy at December 27, 2014 09:57 PM (Am9Tn)
Speaking as a guy who used to work in the bush in bad weather, there is
nothing that will make leather boots really waterproof. Dubbin,
SnowSeal, whatever, it all wears off, even if you melt the product and
soak it into the leather. OK if you are walking on cleared trails in a
light rain, but get into the rough, where underbrush or deep snow
scrapes the uppers of your boots, and any "waterproofing" treatment will
fail.
Yep, leather has to breathe to survive.
Posted by: dartist at December 27, 2014 09:57 PM (ahBY0)
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 27, 2014 09:55 PM (dL7q7)
For all I be?
...this Bud's for me!
-Don't get me started on that "Canadian 'flavor' ". You don't even know what "bacon" means... lol.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 09:57 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 09:58 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:58 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 27, 2014 09:58 PM (t//F+)
Why do home teams wear white?
Road teams wear gray, which is half white.
What color are the bases?
What about Whitey Ford ?
Why am I blackballed?
If the lektrik go down, why's that a blackout.
Why are short sport pants called Knickers?
I am in charge now, answer my queeries
Posted by: irreverant Al Sharptooth at December 27, 2014 09:58 PM (4OQp6)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2014 09:58 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Slappy at December 27, 2014 09:59 PM (Am9Tn)
*******
They have been pissed about the Left field Waveland Ave. Apartments having a game view since I was a kid in the 70s. They want that space for Ads, and as I believe Sam Sell now owns them, that view will be cut off.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 27, 2014 09:59 PM (OBxdH)
No Clydesdales? That's just wrong. I am not a Bud drinker but I like the Clydesdales.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (handing out sacks of ampersands for Christmas) at December 27, 2014 10:00 PM (+XMAD)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 27, 2014 09:55 PM (rwI+c)
I like "Merino Light Hikers", a wool blend. By Wigwam.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 27, 2014 10:00 PM (dL7q7)
Posted by: Old Blue at December 27, 2014 09:48 PM (vVSOO)
Rutledge was traded to the Angels for a reliever. They should have held onto him since Tulo is a good bet to spend at least 60 games on the DL. I just wish fellow Mets fans would stop drooling over Tulo just because they could stand an upgrade at SS. They bring out the sabermetrics charts to "prove" that Tulo playing 90 games results in higher WAR than any other SS playing a full year. I don't care if he can cover the entire infield and hits .500, he spends at least 40 percent of the season sitting in the dugout while taking up a large portion of payroll on a team whose owners can't afford it
Posted by: kbdabear at December 27, 2014 10:00 PM (GrXXa)
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Posted : The Overnight Hat at December 27, 2014 09:53 PM
You and me both.
But we are home safe from AZ. Now watching a marathon of "Manhattan", very good. Then we will crash.
Posted by: Farmer at December 27, 2014 10:01 PM (o/90i)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) (T) at December 27, 2014 10:02 PM (16bOT)
And as a pitcher in my later years, never went anywhere without crotch armor and safety glasses. Why do the gorilla hitters seem to hit it up the middle?
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 27, 2014 10:06 PM (uPxUo)
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (handing out sacks of ampersands for Christmas) at December 27, 2014 10:13 PM (+XMAD)
Yeah, uh huh.
Questions were raised about Panda's weight in each of the 3 seasons in 5 years that he played a key role...on the field, in the locker-room and in the town of SF...in bringing the Giants World Series rings.
Such questions mostly came from outside the GMen universe and were dumb, so yeah.
Pandaval will be Vice Mayor of Boston overnight. He and the Papi could do great things.
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