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Open Thread: CROmnibus Drama
I hear they're 50 votes short, and that sounds, to my ears, like something that isn't going to pass.
So Boehner has a 2-day CR prepared, just in case. Hot Air has more details. One of the most disgusting details is how the media is praising Elizabeth Warren for attempting to shut down the government. As George Will put it on Bret Baier: When Republicans flirted with a shutdown, they were depicted as hostage-takers and suicide bombers; when ultra-liberal Elizabeth Warren does it, she's hailed as the second coming of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. Kevin Glass wrote about this incredible reversal:This year, Sen. Elizabeth Warren wants to reject the bipartisan spending compromise to get rid of business-friendly deregulatory provisions. But this year, it's not about "Elizabeth Warren's plan to shut down the government." No, the media can't bring themselves to go there. Instead of "Why Democrats Want to Shut Down the Government," we get "Warren tells House Dems not to support omnibus." Instead of "Elizabeth Warren and the shutdown caucus," we get "Spending bill teeters amid Democratic discontent." Instead of "Elizabeth Warren Is Protesting the Shutdown She Asked For" we have "Elizabeth Warren Joinse Revolt Against Wall Street Deal In Government Shutdown Talks. Last year, Ted Cruz's push against the government spending deal was all about how Ted Cruz wants a shutdown. But when Elizabeth Warren threatens to torpedo a spending deal that will result in a shutdown, it's all about her courage in standing up to Wall Street and her populist movement against fat cats.Unbelievable. Added [rdbrewer]: Sean Davis, The Federalist: Remember That Time Elizabeth Warren Said A Shutdown Was “Anarchy”?
Last year, she railed against Republicans and said they wanted to shut down the government in order to prevent food inspections, allow lead into children’s toys manufactured in China, and deform babies through their mothers’ use of unsafe morning sickness pills.Video at the link.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 11, 2014 08:17 PM (dxTxt)
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2014 08:18 PM (Vha1U)
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2014 08:18 PM (Vha1U)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 11, 2014 08:20 PM (oFCZn)
John Boehner has now managed to become a failure at being a failure.
It's the DC equivalent of dividing by 0.
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 08:20 PM (A6vWB)
Scuse me while I vomit.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at December 11, 2014 08:20 PM (IVgIK)
Posted by: wte9 at December 11, 2014 08:20 PM (HRXlm)
Oh wait...
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 11, 2014 08:21 PM (oFCZn)
the Make-You-Believe Media...
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 08:22 PM (MgU6y)
Posted by: PCachu at December 11, 2014 08:22 PM (r2Oug)
I hear they're 50 votes short, and that sounds, to my ears, like something that isn't going to pass.
So Boehner has a 2-day CR prepared, just in case.
Also, maybe these things should not be left to pass at the last possible minute just so the cretins pushing it can insist that something must pass right now so fall in line and stop thinking for yourselves.
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 08:22 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 11, 2014 08:22 PM (0FSuD)
I'm just gonna punch this up from where it got willowed on an earlier thread:
237 I think it was AllenG earlier this week who said something like "Communism, Socialism, all just euphemisms for Monarchy". As the worthy Jonah Goldberg points out, Nazism is just one more flavor of the same !#@$^*% poison.
And they are trying like bloody hell to rivet it around our necks any way they can. And by "they", just to be clear, I mean both ostensible "parties" in this country today.
I don't think we have the time to fix the R's, we need a new party now. Someone earlier today called it the Reality party. They are all lying to you, we are telling you the truth.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 08:17 PM (OCcU9)
Still precisely relevant to the topic at hand.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 08:22 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: Bob at December 11, 2014 08:23 PM (xwmFX)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 11, 2014 08:23 PM (afQnV)
I look forward to the day when the "journalists" in the mainstream media are fighting for jobs harvesting crops with the illegals Barry is giving amnesty to.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 11, 2014 08:23 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: wte9 at December 11, 2014 08:23 PM (HRXlm)
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2014 08:23 PM (Vha1U)
Posted by: mugiwara at December 11, 2014 08:24 PM (3a584)
What is needed is for someone to step up and challenge him.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 11, 2014 08:24 PM (0FSuD)
Well, if it's gonna happen, happen it already. What's it to be called?
Posted by: Secundus at December 11, 2014 08:24 PM (kFJvg)
Posted by: George Templeton at December 11, 2014 08:24 PM (N+IlZ)
In the sense of astonishing, jaw-dropping ... yes.
In the sense of not able to be believed ... hardly.
The formerly unbelievable becomes all-too-real on a daily basis.
Posted by: crisis du jour at December 11, 2014 08:24 PM (MuC6e)
Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2014 08:25 PM (sdi6R)
Only option is to go around them and build alternative media.
And there's no solution to that other than giving your time and, more importantly, your money to media that supports your values.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 11, 2014 08:25 PM (ZPrif)
In other depressing news, Des Moines is getting millions in funding for low-income housing and homeless shelters. Apparently HUD did their demographic mapping initiative and decided we need more vibrant diversity. It's just too damned quiet and crime-free around here.
Joe Biden did say they want to "open up the spigot" of immigration rather than "that little trickle" we've been having. I guess they meant it.
They're going to turn us into another Twin Cities, (media suppressed) racial attacks and all. This is what a soft genocide looks like. I feel sick.
"another step in a long-term goal of mine: the peaceful, nonviolent disappearance of the white race." --- Tom Hayden
Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at December 11, 2014 08:26 PM (eDZbN)
18
i saw Fauxcahontas and the Wall St Fat Cats open for Mittens and Jeb one spring break in Floriduh
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2014 08:26 PM (Vha1U)
I don't really believe that. They'll get Barky's CRomnibus through in the end somehow.
Posted by: L, elle at December 11, 2014 08:26 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 11, 2014 08:26 PM (1CroS)
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 11, 2014 08:26 PM (0LHZx)
shutdowns. It'd be more shocking if they didn't. Hell, they have double
standards about double standards. It's shameless, it's hackery, it's
dishonest, it's unethical; but it's not unbelievable.
Posted by: wte9 at December 11, 2014 08:23 PM (HRXlm)
Well you know what they say, "If it weren't for the double standards, the MFM would have no standards at all."
Posted by: mugiwara at December 11, 2014 08:26 PM (3a584)
Posted by: Kreplach at December 11, 2014 08:27 PM (bKSy7)
A modest proposal:
In the spirit of Ace's idea to target particular R shit-heels in 2016, how about we target and expose a R-Shit-heel-A-Week?
For instance, all next week, we and other blogs focus on Hal Rodgers. We devote the entire week to exposing and trashing Hal Rodgers on the blogosphere, on the telephone, and on twitter.
And then the next week we can go to work on another Congress-parasite.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 08:27 PM (MgU6y)
Posted by: The Scorpion at December 11, 2014 08:27 PM (NOqcx)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 11, 2014 08:27 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Erowmero at December 11, 2014 08:27 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 11, 2014 08:27 PM (1CroS)
What are others thinking ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 08:28 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2014 08:28 PM (Vha1U)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 11, 2014 08:28 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 08:28 PM (MgU6y)
She was interviewed on NPR at some length last year, and one of the things she talked about was her own childhood primary education, and how kids today don't enjoy an education of comparable quality because "this country isn't investing in children's futures any longer" compared to the good old days.
Except that her point simply is not true.
This country *is* and *has been* investing in children quite extensively. The USA today spends roughly _four times as much money_ per K-12 pupil, in constant dollars, than was spent per K-12 pupil in 1970.
The problem isn't a lack of "investment" in education. The problem is that the unionized public educrats have wasted the flood of money which has been lavished upon them. Hiring and protecting lousy teachers, and pushing flawed pedagogical models.
Not a word of which you would have heard from Warren's ever so sincere and ever so deeply concerned soliloquy about kids and schools.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 11, 2014 08:28 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: rabidfox at December 11, 2014 08:28 PM (COIkl)
When they shut it down they're putting the screws to the Fat Cats.
Like a Roger Federer serve, it's all in the spin
Posted by: Jane58 at December 11, 2014 08:29 PM (oLZsm)
devote the entire week to exposing and trashing Hal Rodgers on the
blogosphere, on the telephone, and on twitter."
only if we start with Boner
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2014 08:29 PM (Vha1U)
Posted by: Saint Trey of Coiffe at December 11, 2014 08:29 PM (XzRw1)
Unfortunately Warren has the advantage of being right this one time. The language in the bill that puts the taxpayer on the hook for the next bankster scheme to go tits up is utterly unsupportable, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if any of the guys who had the character to vote against TARP aren't playing ball with Boehner today.
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 08:29 PM (A6vWB)
er, contrary position...
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 08:29 PM (MgU6y)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 08:30 PM (kdS6q)
Good media strategy, er, political strategy would be hammering home - every interview, first thing you say - how most of this is entirely avoidable false drama, as the GOP House has (how many, 8?) approps bills done and on Reid's desk since whenever. And that regular order in appropriations, infamously abandoned since 2009, is the real problem, and entirely the WH and Dems' fault (wrong, but close enough for polemical work).
But - note well - as in all other big brouhahas, the GOP never expends one erg of effort to actually do politics - change the framework of discussion, demolish false assumptions of their press/Dem opponents, debunk specific lies and myths. Never one syllable beyond the most vapid talking point, never one action beyond (heretofore, disastrous) acceding to the demand of the day, kicking cans down roads, etc etc.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 11, 2014 08:30 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 08:30 PM (MQEz6)
Years ago I suggested we all mail a tiny piece of rotting fish to particular members of Congress -- to send a message.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 08:30 PM (MgU6y)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 11, 2014 08:27 PM (1CroS)
Yes, and he also said it was imperative that McConnell be defeated in the last election.
Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2014 08:30 PM (sdi6R)
http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/26875/hal-rogers#.VIpGnN_0_C8
Paydirt. I'm off to Youtube.
Posted by: Secundus at December 11, 2014 08:31 PM (kFJvg)
History tells us that for most of recorded events, the standard model of "bi g" government was that of a ruthless all-powerful ruler, surrounded by faithful princes of the realm.
The establishment politicians (of both stripes) are just trying to correct the aberration that was the American Constitutional Republic and thereby return to the classic time tested model of government.
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 08:31 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 08:31 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: MFM at December 11, 2014 08:31 PM (qfd4W)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 11, 2014 08:32 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: pep at December 11, 2014 08:32 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: Secundus at December 11, 2014 08:32 PM (kFJvg)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 11, 2014 08:26 PM (0LHZx)
Yes
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 11, 2014 08:32 PM (W5DcG)
like that is every going to happen with Boner and Mitch-elle in charge of Congress...
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2014 08:32 PM (Vha1U)
Come on, for the GOPe to actually engage in spirited principled debate would be demeaning and almost like having a real job.
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 08:33 PM (fL/7/)
The only thing that changed in November is now the R's have a bigger boot to kick that can down the road...
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 08:33 PM (MgU6y)
What is needed is for someone to step up and challenge him.
GOWDY.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at December 11, 2014 08:33 PM (0A9kE)
7 but good point.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 11, 2014 08:33 PM (g1DWB)
There is no reason why appropriations have to be done in one colossal bolus. Break it into smaller chunks.
That way, budget arguments don't turn into giant dramas about shutting down the entirety of Fedzilla at once.
Of course, doing it this way, with CRs and omnibuses, makes it easier (a) to prevent Fedzilla from being reduced in size, and (b) to stuff copious pork into the dark back corners of monster spending bills, as just happened with the latest Defense outlays.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 11, 2014 08:33 PM (noWW6)
Retiring Representative Patrick Moran (D., Va.) said that Democrats got "virtually everything" they wanted in the cromnibus package, as he praised the bill in terms that could double as the conservative critique of the legislation.
"In 20 years of being on the appropriations [committee], I havent seen a better compromise in terms of Democratic priorities. Implementing the Affordable Care Act, theres a lot more money for early childhood development the only priority that got cut was the EPA but we gave them more money than the administration asked for," Moran told reporters Thursday evening after exiting a Democratic caucus meeting.
National Review
Severly conservative, is it? Thought so.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 08:34 PM (kdS6q)
What a terrifying danger to the classic model we were for all those years.
Can we get it back ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 08:34 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: pep at December 11, 2014 08:32
Eew.
But before the night is over some moron will say, "I'd hit that"
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at December 11, 2014 08:34 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 11, 2014 08:36 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin
I would hit that. Repeatedly.
Posted by: Ray Rice at December 11, 2014 08:36 PM (V70Ne)
Retiring Representative Patrick Moran (D., Va.)
That would be James Moran. Not that Irish drunks don't all look alike.
Posted by: J Moses Browning at December 11, 2014 08:36 PM (jxPRP)
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 08:37 PM (MQEz6)
But just remember if you ever actually try to define what 'conservative' means and categorize people as to whether or not it applies to them, you're a wacko bird.
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 08:37 PM (A6vWB)
But before the night is over some moron will say, "I'd hit that"
-------
Yes.......with a brickbat. Repeatedly. Enthusiastically.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 11, 2014 08:37 PM (vVSOO)
Posted by: pep at December 11, 2014 08:37 PM (4nR9/)
Right before the emergency room visit for alcohol poisoning?
Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at December 11, 2014 08:37 PM (eDZbN)
Posted by: pep at December 11, 2014 08:32
Eew.
But before the night is over some moron will say, "I'd hit that"
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at December 11, 2014 08:34 PM (hcfn1)
There's a fine line between moron and imbecile.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 11, 2014 08:38 PM (FMbng)
Get her name out there, you know, pushing back against big corporations.
What completely, ridiculous theater.
Posted by: seems legit at December 11, 2014 08:38 PM (A98Xu)
Of course, doing it this way, with CRs and omnibuses, makes it easier (a) to prevent Fedzilla from being reduced in size, and (b) to stuff copious pork into the dark back corners of monster spending bills, as just happened with the latest Defense outlays.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 11, 2014 08:33 PM (noWW6)
If I was in Congress and the Speaker asked me for my vote on one of those monstrosities, I would reply, "I will not vote for a bill that I have not read, and I have no intention of reading a 1600 page bill."
Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2014 08:38 PM (sdi6R)
The people reward you with one of the most historic political reversals in American history and the very next thing you do is give fucking sweet heart deals to Wall Street.
You fucking putzses.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 11, 2014 08:38 PM (bKSy7)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 11, 2014 08:38 PM (JO9+V)
Paydirt. I'm off to Youtube.
Don't forget to play my Smoky Mountain Christmas playlist in the background!
http://goo.gl/ua8CpN
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 08:38 PM (MgU6y)
Tear down the administrative state, restore Constitutional liberty.
No side issues, just that and no more.
When that's accomplished we can have the National Discussions about the other stuff.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 08:38 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 08:39 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: pep at December 11, 2014 08:40 PM (4nR9/)
There is no reason why appropriations have to be done in one colossal bolus. Break it into smaller chunks.
That way, budget arguments don't turn into giant dramas about shutting down the entirety of Fedzilla at once.
Of course, doing it this way, with CRs and omnibuses, makes it easier (a) to prevent Fedzilla from being reduced in size, and (b) to stuff copious pork into the dark back corners of monster spending bills, as just happened with the latest Defense outlays.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 11, 2014 08:33 PM (noWW6)
The GOP does not to do any of that.
Ever.
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 08:40 PM (MQEz6)
20 I would say this is the end of Boner as Speaker.
What is needed is for someone to step up and challenge him.
GOWDY.
You realize I voted for this POS today right?
Posted by: Saint Trey of Coiffe at December 11, 2014 08:40 PM (XzRw1)
Way to fucking go GOPe.
The people reward you with one of the most historic political
reversals in American history and the very next thing you do is give
fucking sweet heart deals to Wall Street.
You fucking putzses.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 11, 2014 08:38 PM (bKSy7)
----------I believe I read in an earlier thread that this was written by a Democrat's staffer.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 11, 2014 08:40 PM (vVSOO)
I don't have the votes, what am I to do?
Oompa loompa doopity dottle,
Bartender, Scotch... and just leave the bottle!
Posted by: John Boehner at December 11, 2014 08:40 PM (qfd4W)
Posted by: Jim at December 11, 2014 08:40 PM (RzZOc)
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 11, 2014 08:41 PM (Kh4W+)
Wow!! Talk about 'white privilege'
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 11, 2014 08:41 PM (e8kgV)
Or is that a different bill?
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 11, 2014 08:41 PM (pCf+a)
daveweigel daveweigel
Florida Rep. Corrine Brown choking back tears as she tells me that the Cromnibus would lead to another foreclosure crisis.
Boo hoo.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 08:41 PM (kdS6q)
Get her name out there, you know, pushing back against big corporations.
What completely, ridiculous theater.
Posted by: seems legit at December 11, 2014 08:38 PM (A98Xu)
Hillary just downed another bottle of scotch.
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 08:41 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
Can we also tear down the welfare state at the same time? Since we're approaching 60 cents of every dollar being redistribution from working people to nonworking, seems like an urgent issue.
Posted by: Ray Rice at December 11, 2014 08:42 PM (V70Ne)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at December 11, 2014 08:42 PM (hcfn1)
"Lieawatha's shutdown" = Crazy Horse at Custer's Last Stand
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So stealing that!
Posted by: @votermom at December 11, 2014 08:42 PM (cbfNE)
You challenge every false premise, every time. Then THAT becomes the subject. You don't go along, you challenge every single lie and myth and distortion, at the first articulation thereof. Every time.
Yes, those interviews become rather chaotic. And guess what? If you all do it, every time, that is all they have, and they must use it, and you start to dispel the clouds of distortion, bit by bit.
I have counseled this and seen it done. It's easy (well, does require some verbal intelligence, at a level probably beyond many in Congress).
A very very small, and limited, example of this was Rumsfeld's approach to questions. He frequently dismissed and corrected false premises in "questions".
The press is, for practical purposes, a monolithic, hostile, unprofessional, adversary, increasingly staffed by people of limited intelligence. Treat them this way, manipulate them, challenge them, vilify them, as needed.
But stop trying to rationalize incompetence, laziness, or unacknowledged sympathy with destructive and stupid policies by pointing to "the press".
Posted by: rhomboid at December 11, 2014 08:42 PM (afQnV)
"
Of course there's a reason. It's the only reason. BOTH parties want it. If they split it up, they'd have to justify spending Other People's Money and letting you know just how much more debt they want to pile onto you for every conceivable and inconceivable expenditure across the planet.
I know you know this. The Federales know you know this. They. Don't. Care. It's now a Yuletide Dance. Don't do anything to expose endless corruption, fraud, waste, and expanse for the whole year and then "panic" at the last moment before vacation declaring "urgency."
Failed. Government. It's now a Crime Syndicate.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 11, 2014 08:42 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: davidt at December 11, 2014 08:42 PM (fBxC6)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at December 11, 2014 08:43 PM (V70Ne)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 11, 2014 08:43 PM (0FSuD)
The human spirit craves the comfort of the old ways, even though they will soon be talking about the "bad luck" that has befallen them!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 08:43 PM (fL/7/)
Offer up one that funds the government until the begining of the new year when you will be at full strength.
YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES!!!
Posted by: Kreplach at December 11, 2014 08:44 PM (bKSy7)
You know why Warren is referring to this as the Citigroup amendment? Take a guess who Hillary's biggest campaign contributor is.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 11, 2014 08:44 PM (g1DWB)
Um what would they win? What great achievement is in this bill they're trying to cram through that we'll be standing around cheering when the public 'blames the shutdown on [not GOP]'?
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 08:44 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 11, 2014 08:46 PM (JO9+V)
Economic opportunity could wean off some people, too.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 08:46 PM (OCcU9)
Some of that is due to genuine if misguided humanitarian impulses.
Some of it is due to various churches hoping to increase the ranks of their own flocks via the new arrivals. The Catholics and the Mormons are increasingly notorious for just this view.
And some of it is down to simple classic good old fashioned greed. These "faith" outfits are, many of them, lined up to trouser absurdly large amounts of money to provide social support services to the flood of people coming over the southern border. Hundred-million-dollar sized contracts are being let, and aggressively chased by church charities.
For that we can thank George W. Bush and his idiotic concept of "faith-based initiatives". It was easily predictable, from elementary human nature, that this scheme would promptly degenerate into churches loudly whoring after Fedzilla bucks to provide paid "support" for Fedzilla actions, and that is indeed exactly what has occurred.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 11, 2014 08:46 PM (noWW6)
Boehner could be toast after that.
Posted by: MTF at December 11, 2014 08:46 PM (TcePY)
Posted by: John Boehner's Liver at December 11, 2014 08:47 PM (pmzey)
Boehner could be toast after that.
Posted by: MTF at December 11, 2014 08:46 PM (TcePY)
won't happen, Obama would have to work to make it work
Posted by: MikeH at December 11, 2014 08:47 PM (4OZqu)
Posted by: MTF at December 11, 2014 08:48 PM (TcePY)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2014 08:48 PM (/GgDU)
You don't really expect the likes of Boehner and McConnell to step up and do something they can be held accountable for, do you?
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 08:48 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: John Boehner at December 11, 2014 08:48 PM (3rrMW)
unprofessional, adversary, increasingly staffed by people of limited
intelligence. Treat them this way, manipulate them, challenge them,
vilify them, as needed.
How about the rack? Is that okay?
Posted by: pep at December 11, 2014 08:48 PM (4nR9/)
They're trying to legislate that special consumer office away. (that's her goto plan for retirement)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 08:48 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: John Boehner's Liver at December 11, 2014 08:47 PM (pmzey)
of course, I escaped from his body in 2008
Posted by: John Boehner's Liver II at December 11, 2014 08:48 PM (4OZqu)
That will leave a lot of money with companies that are likely to reinvest in more equipment, and who will employ people to run it.
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 11, 2014 08:49 PM (pCf+a)
Posted by: MTF at December 11, 2014 08:49 PM (TcePY)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 11, 2014 08:49 PM (lXTox)
Hal Rogers three years ago. Chair of House Appropriations. Totally against any kind of reform to Social Security (skip to 10:10)
Posted by: Secundus at December 11, 2014 08:50 PM (kFJvg)
I'm starting up a MC -- Daughters of Anarchy, SHAMCROW (Indian).
Posted by: Suckagawea Warren at December 11, 2014 08:50 PM (qfd4W)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 11, 2014 08:50 PM (g1DWB)
Not saying you're wrong, but truth has a subtle magic too. Isn't it about the only shot we've got, anyway ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 08:50 PM (OCcU9)
I think the GOP would finally win a shutdown argument with the voters.
Um
what would they win? What great achievement is in this bill they're
trying to cram through that we'll be standing around cheering when the
public 'blames the shutdown on [not GOP]'?
They'd finally put an end to the shutdown extortion racket the Dems and media have been using for years. Then they could start actually doing the hard work of honest budgeting, and dismissing Barry's overreach. They could. I didn't say they would. You have to start somewhere.
Posted by: pep at December 11, 2014 08:51 PM (4nR9/)
DRUDGE REPORT @DRUDGE_REPORT 4m
POPE: Time to tackle 'global warming' running out... http://drudge.tw/1wl84Lz
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 11, 2014 08:52 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 08:52 PM (MgU6y)
He used the technique outlined in comment 101 to eviscerate the MFM.
It's on YouTube.
Watch it.
Learn it.
Use it.
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 08:52 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 11, 2014 08:52 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 11, 2014 08:53 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Jim Webb at December 11, 2014 08:53 PM (pmzey)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 11, 2014 08:52 PM (ZPrif)
Hey, look at it from his perspective. If he sweats into those white robes they become transparent.
Posted by: Secundus at December 11, 2014 08:53 PM (kFJvg)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2014 08:54 PM (/GgDU)
I'd personalize it by saying "I reject your premise". That puts the blame where it belongs, on the questioner, and puts him on the defensive.
Posted by: pep at December 11, 2014 08:54 PM (4nR9/)
This is exactly what we all knew would happen. It is third party time.
Posted by: Thatch at December 11, 2014 08:54 PM (m/nBa)
McConnell ran on doing exactly that and the House has been sending regular appropriations bills to the Senate since Boehner took over.
I know, I know, its all the GOPs fault.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 11, 2014 08:54 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: --- at December 11, 2014 08:54 PM (MMC8r)
I'd be surprised if it was as little as 50 / 50.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 08:54 PM (OCcU9)
It was all rather suspicious that a Pope resigned with no real signs of pending grievous illness or pending death.
And then to have this communist secularist become the replacement???
Makes me wonder whether a coup occurred in the Vatican and no one noticed.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 08:55 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2014 08:55 PM (lXTox)
Now I'm sure of it -- this Pope tracks all the trending stuff on Dumb People's social media and then takes positions based on the info.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 08:55 PM (MgU6y)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 08:56 PM (MgU6y)
Posted by: Louis Head at December 11, 2014 08:56 PM (/GgDU)
This is a good Progressive shutdown, done to keep and enhance Government Power, from which all good flows...
Seee????? its different...
Posted by: Media at December 11, 2014 08:56 PM (f0pWu)
I can't wait for the fireworks to begin.
Posted by: Satan and his barbed cock at December 11, 2014 08:56 PM (l0lja)
Posted by: Pmzey at December 11, 2014 08:56 PM (pmzey)
regular appropriations bills to the Senate since Boehner took over.
Along with assurances from both that they will not shut down the government. Whatever else you think of their policies, that's just poor negotiating.
Posted by: pep at December 11, 2014 08:56 PM (4nR9/)
he's a populist Pope
-- a Popeulist
it's all about mass-marketing with this guy
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 08:56 PM (MgU6y)
He's the Pop-est with the Most-est
Posted by: MikeH at December 11, 2014 08:57 PM (4OZqu)
Posted by: Lord Vader at December 11, 2014 08:57 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 08:58 PM (RZzX3)
Obama's a lame duck. Pelosi and Warren are in safe seats and will be on Capitol Hill for as long as they wish to stay; Obama is gone, history, vanished, poof, out of D.C. in just two years and one month.
So his ability to rein in his putative allies on the Hill would be very weak today due to the clock, even if he had expended effort and political capital on building that ability in the first place.
Which Obama never did do. He has relied on his aura of superstar celebrity rather than on amicable individual relationship building.
"Boehner could be toast after that."
From your mouth to God's ears.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 11, 2014 08:58 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Jim Webb at December 11, 2014 08:58 PM (pmzey)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 11, 2014 08:58 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at December 11, 2014 08:59 PM (HBAcW)
I'd be surprised if it was as little as 50 / 50.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
Does it really matter? Get rid of the dole, no need for the agency that administers it.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at December 11, 2014 08:59 PM (V70Ne)
Hopefully some internecine catfight will break out any time now...
Posted by: --- at December 11, 2014 08:59 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: WisRich at December 11, 2014 08:59 PM (xWQFH)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 08:28 PM (MgU6y)
___________
No, I ask since I haven't been following what's going on. I need the Readers Digest version...good or bad.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 11, 2014 09:00 PM (0LHZx)
They want to convince you that they do, so you will vote for them.
Suckers.
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 09:00 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Hillary at December 11, 2014 09:00 PM (/GgDU)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:00 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: The Fwench at December 11, 2014 09:00 PM (fBxC6)
Capitol Hill for as long as they wish to stay; Obama is gone, history,
vanished, poof, out of D.C. in just two years and one month.
It's true. He's become largely irrelevant and it must be eating an adulation whore like him alive. I expect him to claim that he was gang-raped on a shattered glass table soon.
Posted by: pep at December 11, 2014 09:01 PM (4nR9/)
regular appropriations bills to the Senate since Boehner took over.
Along
with assurances from both that they will not shut down the government.
Whatever else you think of their policies, that's just poor negotiating.
----
Was that before or after McConnell ran on crushing the Tea Party?
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:01 PM (A6vWB)
Chris Matthews Sure Has A Different Take On Shutdowns When Democrats Do It [VIDEO]
http://bit.ly/1yXwxJg
Posted by: TenthJustice at December 11, 2014 09:02 PM (TDRdp)
Now, I don't know if it includes that, or if the 179 extension is another bill. But what if?
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 11, 2014 09:02 PM (pCf+a)
Posted by: Hillary at December 11, 2014 09:03 PM (/GgDU)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 11, 2014 09:03 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: John Boehner's Liver at December 11, 2014 09:03 PM (pmzey)
Hint: they ain't gonna do dat.
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 09:03 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 11, 2014 09:03 PM (dYf0m)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:00 PM (RZzX3)
Looking for that foreign policy cred, too bad Youtube screwed it up
Posted by: MikeH at December 11, 2014 09:04 PM (4OZqu)
Posted by: Thatch at December 11, 2014 08:54 PM (m/nBa)
__________
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAT_BuJAI70
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 11, 2014 09:04 PM (0LHZx)
The Congressional Health Care Plan offers unlimited liver transplants to the Speaker of the House!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 09:04 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: thefritz at December 11, 2014 09:05 PM (HUo8E)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 11, 2014 09:05 PM (ZPrif)
All the photos you see from the secular media show Hillary in some pose, laughing or smiling.
Very noticeable change from say 2-3 months ago.
You know before the election.
Now they're on a two year path to shoving some neer do well down our throats and Hillary's first out of the gate.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:05 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 11, 2014 09:06 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: PM W.K. at December 11, 2014 09:07 PM (pmzey)
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:07 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 11, 2014 09:07 PM (gRmi+)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 11, 2014 08:49 PM
And we can only hope she beats your azz.
Posted by: Al Sharpton at December 11, 2014 09:07 PM (o/90i)
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 09:07 PM (MQEz6)
Democrat Maxine Waters is shouting:
"We bailed out the richest people in America. I am the ranking member of the financial committee, and theyre trying to get rid of Dodd Frank! I am not gonna let the people down, I am not gonna vote for anything thats going to give the store to the biggest banks in America one more time!"
Raises hands
Falls to the ground
Alligator!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 09:07 PM (kdS6q)
This job isn't fun, y'all are so mean to me.
Oompa loompa doopity die,
This booze isn't helping, now I'm going to cry.
Posted by: John Boehner at December 11, 2014 09:08 PM (qfd4W)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 11, 2014 09:08 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 09:08 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: Secundus at December 11, 2014 09:08 PM (kFJvg)
Posted by: WisRich at December 11, 2014 09:08 PM (xWQFH)
I don't know about you but I never expected her to not move the ball after about the 3rd year.
Same here.
This is dog bites man stuff.
Now if they came up with a budget that eliminated funding for the IRS mandate, the Amnesty and cut the EPA until they take some thorazine then I'd be surprised.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:08 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 09:07 PM (MQEz6)
__________
We only have 54 Senators. Surely you can't expect us to pass bills with just 54.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 11, 2014 09:09 PM (0LHZx)
How are we taking their money away?
This is about power and nothing more.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 11, 2014 09:09 PM (0HooB)
I voted for them this last election.
I liked the platform.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:09 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 09:08 PM (OCcU9)
Nobody in Washington will let anything even remotely like that happen.
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 09:10 PM (MQEz6)
I find it surprising how many people either can't handle the truth or don't want to be bothered with it as it interferes with their world view. But yes, truth is the only shot we have and the window for it to be heard is closing rapidly!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 09:10 PM (fL/7/)
One benefit to all of this is the publicity given to Liz "Princess Running Joke" Warren.
It looks like she's going to run in '16, partly because Hillary! is probably seen internally as too damaged. I see Warren as at least as bad as Hillary!. She has less experience, and is ever less in touch with reality.
It's time to start carefully investigating her work history and publications. Warren needs to fail, fail often and fail badly; 30 points or more.
My guess is that at least one of her jobs will be proven (i.e., documentation on a job won only on her ethnic status, as otherwise ...) to be fraudulently obtained.
Her publication(s) is(are) suspect, bit no one has done conclusive research ... Can we get her degree recalled?
In the meantime, which is worse; the CRomnibus as it stands, or a 2-day bill that gets us into January, where a new and very different Congress will have power?
If Warren can get us a second chance in January, ... ok.
If Boehner looks bad in the meantime ... perhaps the Speaker and Majority Leader in January will be Not-Boehner, as enough R's see that B. is clearly not up to the job ... or not an R ... or both.
Posted by: Arbalest at December 11, 2014 09:10 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:10 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 11, 2014 09:11 PM (B2ga5)
How are we taking their money away?
This is about power and nothing more.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 11, 2014 09:09 PM (0HooB)
They use their power to get money.
They don't leave office broke, you know.
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 09:11 PM (MQEz6)
Sniffle, sniffle, glug, glug.....
Posted by: Johnny "Cheeto" Boner at December 11, 2014 09:11 PM (oPiZ/)
Next year when the GOP has both Houses what excuses will they use?
Posted by: eman
"We only have 2/3rd of 3 branches*...".
*note - majority of current Justices appointed by Republicans.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 09:11 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 11, 2014 09:11 PM (dYf0m)
Posted by: thefritz at December 11, 2014 09:11 PM (HUo8E)
Posted by: Tea Party at December 11, 2014 09:12 PM (pmzey)
You thought you might as well give the scorpion a ride across the lake to porkland and it stung you midway. That's what happens when you make deals with Dems.
Serves you right.
Posted by: @votermom at December 11, 2014 09:12 PM (AZk67)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 11, 2014 09:09 PM (0LHZx)
But once the GOPe has absolute control of the House, the Senate, and the White House, then they'll get things straightened out!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 09:12 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 11, 2014 09:12 PM (pCf+a)
One other thing and it's the trickiest, you have to repeal/rescind all the free market restrictions and rules that have made creating a business so difficult or expensive.
They're enforcing rules on lemonade stands for crying out loud. And that's because of runaway bureaucrats with federal money deciding what you can and cannot do with your life.
Until there are more job opportunities, kicking people off welfare doesn't do much.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:13 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:13 PM (A6vWB)
Big deal. Neither do we.
Posted by: House of Representatives at December 11, 2014 09:14 PM (w3a0Z)
Posted by: Kreplach at December 11, 2014
That's the honorable fucking assholes
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at December 11, 2014 09:14 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 11, 2014 09:09 PM (0LHZx)
But once the GOPe has absolute control of the House, the Senate, and the White House, then they'll get things straightened out!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 09:12 PM (fL/7/)
Unless doing so might cost us something.
Better play it safe.
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 09:14 PM (MQEz6)
I Twitter it last night or today.
Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2014 09:14 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 11, 2014 09:14 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Kay Hagan, worth 40% more in one term at December 11, 2014 09:14 PM (vPh3W)
Way to go GOPe.
Take a bow little Johnny Borhner, this might be your finest work.
You fucking asshole.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 11, 2014 09:15 PM (bKSy7)
They don't leave office broke, you know.
We're all well aware of how many pols leave orifice as bazillionaires. They have theirs.
What they want more than anything is power over the rest of us. That's what they're fighting so hard over, because it damn sure ain't for the Constitution, capitalism or our freedom. Or what's right.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 11, 2014 09:15 PM (0HooB)
Of course I haven't read it.
Posted by: @votermom at December 11, 2014 09:15 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: ginaswo at December 11, 2014 09:15 PM (skIEr)
Do you find it concerning?
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:15 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 11, 2014 09:16 PM (pCf+a)
Posted by: Injun Lizzy at December 11, 2014 09:16 PM (oPiZ/)
I'm starting to get the impression that those here complaining about this bill don't actually know what's in it.
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 11, 2014 09:12 PM (pCf+a)
Most of the Representatives give me the impression that they can barely read their pay stubs, let alone a 1700 page bill written deliberately in the arcane legislative language used to baffle and confuse the serfs!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 09:16 PM (fL/7/)
Representative Jim Moran is outright shouting as the House session gets underway. Emotions are running very, very high.
"One of my staffers hasnt gone home to see her kids for weeks, because shes been working night after night for her priorities to work on this bill!"
So she's going to give up that juiced in political job she clawed up the ladder to get, in order to spend more time with her family?
Yeah --- thought not.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 09:16 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Congress at December 11, 2014 09:16 PM (kFJvg)
Posted by: Horatio Caine at December 11, 2014 09:16 PM (bPdaD)
Posted by: Bitter
-----------------------
Unemployment is economic stimulus, you idiot.
Posted by: Nanci Pelosi at December 11, 2014 09:16 PM (vPh3W)
They don't leave office broke, you know.
We're all well aware of how many pols leave orifice as bazillionaires. They have theirs.
What they want more than anything is power over the rest of us. That's what they're fighting so hard over, because it damn sure ain't for the Constitution, capitalism or our freedom. Or what's right.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 11, 2014 09:15 PM (0HooB)
I made no mention of which thing they valued more.
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 09:17 PM (MQEz6)
I don't really give a rat's ass what's in it. Harry Reid has had how long to engage in budget/spending negotiations and hasn't availed himself of the opportunity? I don't see why he should have any damn say so at all about how money is spent next year.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at December 11, 2014 09:17 PM (M6Vhk)
The bill is 1600 pages and has no plot and no main character.
Of course I haven't read it."
I tried to read some of it the other day. Farking mess to understand.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2014 09:17 PM (oPiZ/)
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:17 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 09:16 PM (fL/7/)
I totally read it. I found the bits about Guam most disturbing.
Posted by: Hank Johnson at December 11, 2014 09:17 PM (kFJvg)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 11, 2014 09:17 PM (W5DcG)
Boo freakin' hoo. Garbage men work harder and do more good.
Posted by: no good deed at December 11, 2014 09:18 PM (w3a0Z)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:18 PM (RZzX3)
If Obama's gor it, I'm agin it.
Posted by: Horatio Caine at December 11, 2014 09:18 PM (bPdaD)
Of course I haven't read it."
I tried to read some of it the other day. Farking mess to understand.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2014 09:17 PM (oPiZ/)
You sure that wasn't Anna Karenina?
Posted by: Secundus at December 11, 2014 09:18 PM (kFJvg)
Posted by: Horatio Caine at December 11, 2014 09:18 PM (bPdaD)
Of course I haven't read it.
Posted by: @votermom
---------------
But..., the prose is fabulous!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2014 09:18 PM (vPh3W)
I can't remember who posted it, but I said that means we need new Speaker.
Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2014 09:18 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:18 PM (A6vWB)
I'm starting to get the impression that those here complaining about this bill don't actually know what's in it.
Posted by: Pastafarian
Maybe if the fncking Republicans followed the fnucking 72 hour rule on bills they fnucking promised us -- just -- fnucking -- once, we fnucking well could.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 09:18 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: thefritz at December 11, 2014 09:11 PM (HUo8E)
******
Fine, do it your way. Ask around about D-Lamp here and what happened to him with the same suggestions.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 11, 2014 09:18 PM (gRmi+)
I started playing records
She knew all the grooves
He thought she was a thief
Yeah D was right!
But I just figured she'd spend the night
She's crafty, she's got a gripe
She's crafty, and she's just my type
Posted by: ginaswo blasting Beastie Boys at December 11, 2014 09:19 PM (skIEr)
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2014 09:19 PM (MQEz6)
We need a separate authorization for each Cabinet agency and NONE whatsoever for whatever rathole Valerie Jarrett occupies.
If Obama wants that thing in his administration he should have to pay for it persionally, out of his own pocket.
Posted by: JEM at December 11, 2014 09:20 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:20 PM (A6vWB)
This concerns me.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2014 09:20 PM (oPiZ/)
Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2014 09:20 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Tea Party at December 11, 2014 09:20 PM (pmzey)
The #TeaParty might have to send Warren a Christmas card if she derails Boehner's #CRomnibus.
#StrangeBedfellows
Posted by: @votermom at December 11, 2014 09:21 PM (e9rxX)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 11, 2014 09:21 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:22 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: @votermom at December 11, 2014 09:22 PM (e9rxX)
You all seem to be making the perfect the enemy of the good, and engaging in needless histrionics.
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 11, 2014 09:22 PM (pCf+a)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at December 11, 2014 09:17 PM (M6Vhk)
Easy, it gives the GOPe plausible deniability for the next year, and prevents the any House (or Senate) member that might be tempted to stray into considering reducing the budget from being able to do anything until next year when the GOPe will be trying to craft another CR (not a budget) to avoid going into an election year with a tangible budget record that might be used against them.
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 09:22 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 11, 2014 09:23 PM (dYf0m)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 11, 2014 09:23 PM (Y9x3L)
You're new around here, aren't you?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 11, 2014 09:23 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Secundus at December 11, 2014 09:23 PM (kFJvg)
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:23 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2014 09:20 PM (sj3Ax)
Carol, I thought I say it was now up to 1774 new and improved pages that no one has read.
These a$$holes had ONE job!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 09:24 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 09:24 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: JDW at December 11, 2014 09:24 PM (d5I0W)
Ah, memories of those golden days under Bush when the GOP had the trifecta.
And proceeded to give us domestic discretionary spending going up at the fastest clip since Lyndon Johnson. Medicare Part D. Ethanol mandates. Light bulb bans. Sarbanes-Oxley. McCain-Feingold. The DHS. The TSA. Two enormously costly and ill-premised foreign wars. More than ten thousand new pages of intrusive regulatory bullshit crammed into the Federal Register. Repeated attempts to sneak through an amnesty.
Man, I can't *wait* for a GOP President to come along in January of 2017, to team up with Agent Orange and the Guild Navigator, and return us to those heady times. Maybe even, dare I say it, another Bush in the White House. Since the last one worked out so well.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 11, 2014 09:24 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 09:24 PM (kdS6q)
Yeah.
Viable as in; integrity, honesty, stands up to lying Media whores, clear statements, few campaign managers telling us what they'll do; let them say it.
Stating clearly and concisely what they will do as President and what they won't. And sticking with it regardless of the screams and threats.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:24 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 11, 2014 09:25 PM (0FSuD)
The beat was bumpin and the girlies were hot
This dude was starin like we knows who we are
We took the empty spot next to him at the bar
Posted by: ginaswo at the hotel playing music way too loud at December 11, 2014 09:26 PM (skIEr)
Every fucking branch is now corrupted and broken!!
Our system is broken.
And the Donks and GOPe are equally responsible.
There is no reason to do this CROMNIBUS.
This fucking Boehner jerk wad has got to go and go now!
Posted by: Kreplach at December 11, 2014 09:26 PM (bKSy7)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 11, 2014 09:26 PM (dYf0m)
You all seem to be making the perfect the enemy of the good, and engaging in needless histrionics.
Posted by: Pastafarian
Your Concern Status
--------------------------
[X] Noted
[ ] Other Than Noted
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 09:26 PM (kdS6q)
Well, congratulations on finding one thing that may be supportable in 1600 pages of robbery and tyranny. You've earned your paycheck, and may go.
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:26 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at December 11, 2014 09:26 PM (hcfn1)
2017, to team up with Agent Orange and the Guild Navigator, and return
us to those heady times."
Now, now, don't be coy. Just come right out and tell us how you feel.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2014 09:27 PM (oPiZ/)
Posted by: --- at December 11, 2014 09:27 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 11, 2014 09:22 PM (pCf+a)
RINO!!!!!! (jk)
You're going to have a hard time at thisblog. Just giving you fair warning.
Posted by: L, elle at December 11, 2014 09:27 PM (2x3L+)
Honey Baked Ham is having a 50% off sale on this item for the next 3 hours:
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8 lb ham
Cheesecake sampler
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 09:27 PM (MgU6y)
Posted by: ginaswo at December 11, 2014 09:28 PM (skIEr)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:28 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: WisRich at December 11, 2014 09:28 PM (xWQFH)
Well then, stop fucking them.
Posted by: --- at December 11, 2014 09:27 PM (MMC8r)
I knew a guy who got CSPAN from a toilet seat
Posted by: Secundus at December 11, 2014 09:28 PM (kFJvg)
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:28 PM (A6vWB)
I'll be amazed if this is not passed from the sheer power of the corruptocrat state to make life very comfortable for members of Congress!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 09:28 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: JDW at December 11, 2014 09:28 PM (d5I0W)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 11, 2014 09:28 PM (dYf0m)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2014 09:29 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: ginaswo at December 11, 2014 09:29 PM (skIEr)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2014 09:29 PM (oPiZ/)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 11, 2014 09:29 PM (dYf0m)
This is still the Previous Congress.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:29 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2014 09:30 PM (vPh3W)
And ginaswo for the Beastie Boys.
Posted by: L, elle at December 11, 2014 09:30 PM (2x3L+)
I have personally witnessed the Day America Died on this blog no fewer than 17 times.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 11, 2014 09:30 PM (ZPrif)
You problem is you still have hope. Come to the dark side and realize that Darth Math wins in the end.
It's ... liberating.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 11, 2014 09:30 PM (rwI+c)
along in January of 2017, to team up with Agent Orange and the Guild
Navigator, and return us to those heady times. Maybe even, dare I say
it, another Bush in the White House. Since the last one worked out so
well.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 11, 2014 09:24 PM (noWW6)<<<
Anything could happen.
Nah, just kidding. We'll never be champs again and we'll never get all 3 branches to roll back the Federal leviathan.
Posted by: World Series Champion Chicago Cubs at December 11, 2014 09:30 PM (qfd4W)
When their kids are slowed down in their schooling because of those illegal kids, maybe they'll think about that.
I doubt it, but there's a chance.
Posted by: Hank at December 11, 2014 09:30 PM (rz2W2)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 11, 2014 09:30 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:30 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: @votermom at December 11, 2014 09:30 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 11, 2014 09:30 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: WisRich at December 11, 2014 09:30 PM (xWQFH)
That bill was a different & passed House & awaking Senate.
Bill number was HR 5771, I believe.
If that's wrong I've got something to take out of oven now. I will check number later.
Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2014 09:31 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Lavrenti Beria at December 11, 2014 09:31 PM (kFJvg)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2014 09:31 PM (oPiZ/)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 11, 2014 09:31 PM (ZPrif)
She , Bair, was great on this today on CNBC
Posted by: ginaswo at December 11, 2014 09:31 PM (skIEr)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:29 PM (RZzX3)
And who's the genius that thought it was a good idea to give people on their way out of office the power to screw with the laws of the country?
There needs to be a moratorium on spending bills during the period between congresses.
No business could ever be run this way. It would've gone under in a week.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:31 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 11, 2014 09:31 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 11, 2014 09:31 PM (ucDmr)
292 *Braces for disappointment*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2014 09:29 PM (vPh3W)
I live there, so I don't need to brace. Similar to my coffee, black & bitter as is my life
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at December 11, 2014 09:31 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 11, 2014 09:31 PM (dYf0m)
Posted by: Nip
see: 297
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2014 09:32 PM (vPh3W)
Obama got 50 some democrats to cover the 53 GOP that didn't vote for it.
And Warren got some footage for her campaign commercials.
Posted by: pep at December 11, 2014 09:32 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:32 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: --- at December 11, 2014 09:32 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: ginaswo at December 11, 2014 09:32 PM (skIEr)
And proceeded to give us domestic discretionary spending going up at the fastest clip since Lyndon Johnson. Medicare Part D. Ethanol mandates. Light bulb bans. Sarbanes-Oxley. McCain-Feingold. The DHS. The TSA. Two enormously costly and ill-premised foreign wars. More than ten thousand new pages of intrusive regulatory bullshit crammed into the Federal Register. Repeated attempts to sneak through an amnesty.
Man, I can't *wait* for a GOP President to come along in January of 2017, to team up with Agent Orange and the Guild Navigator, and return us to those heady times. Maybe even, dare I say it, another Bush in the White House. Since the last one worked out so well.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 11, 2014"
Another way of putting the same points I've been trying to make. 3rd party now, no more time to lose.
"85 Platform ?
Tear down the administrative state, restore Constitutional liberty.
No side issues, just that and no more.
When that's accomplished we can have the National Discussions about the other stuff.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez "
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 09:32 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 11, 2014 09:32 PM (0FSuD)
Dan Roberts RobertsDan
That's it. Yes vote reaches key 218. The Christmas Cromnibus passes the House, complete with baubles for Wall Street and political money men
Thank godness. Now maybe my round-heeled daughter will move out of my house along with her Rastafarian husband and take that Goldman job I bought-- err -- found for her.
Posted by: John Boehner
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 09:33 PM (kdS6q)
It's ... liberating.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 11, 2014 09:30 PM (rwI+c)
*Respirator noise*
I find your lack of budgets disturbing.
*respirator noise*
Posted by: Darth Math at December 11, 2014 09:33 PM (kFJvg)
Posted by: Regular Guy at December 11, 2014 09:33 PM (XYKz+)
Now you're just exaggerating.
And that's another characteristic of this blog.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:33 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: ginaswo at December 11, 2014 09:33 PM (skIEr)
Wet bar? Insurance discounts?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2014 09:33 PM (oPiZ/)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 11, 2014 09:33 PM (dYf0m)
Posted by: B Franklin at December 11, 2014 09:33 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 11, 2014 09:33 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: one mississippi, two mississippi, three mississippi at December 11, 2014 09:33 PM (fBxC6)
Posted by: ginaswo at December 11, 2014 09:34 PM (skIEr)
Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2014 09:34 PM (sdi6R)
That did not happen in the Senate Intelligence Committee's report: "When Feinstein is asked about this, her answer is, there was a concurrent investigation by the Department of Justice and, thus, we were not able to interview them. Well, that is total rubbish, because the investigation ended in 2012. It's now the end of 2014. They had over two years to interview and talk to anybody involved, including the highest officials, who were never excluded from interrogation in principle, but who were never spoken to."
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 11, 2014 09:34 PM (e8kgV)
I find your lack of budgets disturbing.
*respirator noise*
Posted by: Darth
------------------
Dark humor...., but damned funny
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2014 09:34 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: WisRich at December 11, 2014 09:34 PM (xWQFH)
Because they're all about to blow out and we can't be having the bankster scum eating the losses that are the consequences of their actions.
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:34 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 11, 2014 09:34 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 11, 2014 09:35 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Cato at December 11, 2014 09:35 PM (3HxZe)
They have in mind what's good for D.C. Period. The Beltway is their "realm."
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2014 09:35 PM (oPiZ/)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11
I've gone full Gallows Comedian, last couple of years
Posted by: Secundus at December 11, 2014 09:35 PM (kFJvg)
Posted by: Corona at December 11, 2014 09:36 PM (fh2Y7)
Dems make complete hypocrites of themselves, and say FU to the POTUS, in front of the whole country and ... the REPUBLICANS step up to bail them out!?!
Somebody please explain...
Posted by: Optimizer at December 11, 2014 09:36 PM (/q6+P)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 11, 2014 09:36 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2014 09:36 PM (oPiZ/)
Posted by: Tea Party at December 11, 2014 09:36 PM (pmzey)
Posted by: Hugh G Rection at December 11, 2014 09:36 PM (wT9UL)
So in that case....shit, the one good thing that I thought Cromnibus included, it does not.
So everyone here: You're right. Please resume your gnashing of teeth, and disregard my interruption.
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 11, 2014 09:36 PM (pCf+a)
Manu Raju
Cheers in the House chamber as omnibus gets 220 votes, enough for passage
The live feed transmits the sounds of a very rowdy chamber.
To the left, to left
To the right, to the right
Now dip, baby -- dip
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 09:37 PM (kdS6q)
Only if the guys get parrots.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 11, 2014 09:37 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Regular Guy at December 11, 2014 09:37 PM (XYKz+)
Posted by: NWConservative at December 11, 2014 09:38 PM (c/Uvy)
Posted by: Dirty Dingus McGee at December 11, 2014 09:38 PM (9R4HJ)
*gurgling noise from upended bottle*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 09:38 PM (OCcU9)
"But once the GOPe has absolute control of the House, the Senate, and
the White House, then they'll get things straightened out!"
Yup.
No stopping whatever Citibank wants ... oh, and a few crumbs for the plebes ... here, plebes, crumbs.
Posted by: Hugh G Rection at December 11, 2014 09:38 PM (wT9UL)
Posted by: Optimizer at December 11, 2014 09:36 PM (/q6+P)
For the children
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 11, 2014 09:38 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: NWConservative at December 11, 2014 09:38 PM (c/Uvy)
Not many other choices at this point. DC is beyond control, and no amount of voting will change that.
Posted by: Cato at December 11, 2014 09:39 PM (3HxZe)
Posted by: Lady Liberty at December 11, 2014 09:39 PM (qfd4W)
You fucking maniacs.
Damn you to hell!
Damn you all to hell!!!!
Posted by: Kreplach at December 11, 2014 09:39 PM (bKSy7)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at December 11, 2014 09:39 PM (dYf0m)
Posted by: Quasimodo at December 11, 2014 09:39 PM (Moh0M)
Problem it is probably already too late to organize a viable third party. The fixers in both parties have jiggered the candidate selection process with multiple blocks to running against the "Uber-Party". Add to that thousands of newly gifted illegals voting in every precinct within driving distance in 2016 and I think we can hang it up right now and go home in defeat.
What we have here though is proof positive that a third party was long overdue.
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 09:40 PM (fL/7/)
Now I'm sure of it -- this Pope tracks all the trending stuff on
Dumb People's social media and then takes positions based on the info."
So, basically a prediction he'll pull a Miley Cyrus and smoke dope and twerk on his visit to the USA.
That'll boost ticket sales.
Posted by: Hugh G Rection at December 11, 2014 09:40 PM (wT9UL)
Rather Star Wars-ish......to continue a theme.
---
I'd feel a lot better about the burning times if I got an X-Wing.
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:40 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: Cato at December 11, 2014 09:35 PM (3HxZe)
******
Maybe something more enduring, like Alliance for a Constitutional Republic.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 11, 2014 09:40 PM (PCes/)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 11, 2014 09:41 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 11, 2014 09:41 PM (ucDmr)
Nothing with a Felco cutter for a face is getting that close to my eyes.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 09:41 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: Dan at December 11, 2014 09:41 PM (COpZ4)
Posted by: CDR M at December 11, 2014 09:41 PM (93D1V)
Posted by: Quasimodo at December 11, 2014 09:41 PM (Moh0M)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 11, 2014 09:40 PM (PCes/)
That works.
Posted by: Cato at December 11, 2014 09:42 PM (3HxZe)
I wouldn't mind DC being out of control but they're taking the rest of us with them.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2014 09:42 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: CDR M at December 11, 2014 09:42 PM (93D1V)
--
In the interest of saving a great deal of time, I motion to disband the federal government.
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:42 PM (A6vWB)
If Warren can get us a second chance in January, ... ok.
If Boehner looks bad in the meantime ... perhaps the Speaker and Majority Leader in January will be Not-Boehner, as enough R's see that B. is clearly not up to the job ... or not an R ... or both.
Posted by: Arbalest at December 11, 2014 09:10 PM
I'd prefer they do a short term bill and let the Rep dominated congress go forward in Jan. Don't get the warrior Warren's approach, other than she's a newbie.
They aren't getting rid of Boehner. The newbies came to town and all those folks voted on Boehner, even if they weren't in Congress yet. That's what they do.
Posted by: Al Sharpton at December 11, 2014 09:42 PM (o/90i)
I'm going to have trouble shifting that mental image.
"Snoop Dogg feat. Miley Cyrus and Hiz Holinezz"
Posted by: Secundus at December 11, 2014 09:43 PM (kFJvg)
And when the fucking Donks rail and rant about the GOP being in the pockets of Wall Street for the next fucking two years nobodies going to be able to counter it after this bullshit.
Posted by: Kreplach
The lead weight of Romneycare wasn't heavy enough. Thought we'd set another anchor.
Posted by: The Republicans
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 09:43 PM (kdS6q)
Heh. I loved that pic of Gruber with his parrot, who looked to be sizing up parts of Grub's mug.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 11, 2014 09:43 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Kreplach at December 11, 2014 09:43 PM (bKSy7)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 11, 2014 09:41 PM (ucDmr)
Nailed it. The GOPe and Democrats are playing for the same team. They never undo each other's work, no matter how much it offends their bases, and they both advance the cause of an all-powerful federal government at the expense of everything else.
Posted by: Cato at December 11, 2014 09:44 PM (3HxZe)
Well this is how Boner will pass Immigration Reform.
Posted by: CDR M at December 11, 2014 09:41 PM (93D1V)
If we're "lucky", he now has time to get this done before they go home for Christmas!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 09:44 PM (fL/7/)
That Cromnibus sounds like a real hottie.
Posted by: Homohabilis at December 11, 2014 09:45 PM (InvPG)
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 09:45 PM (A6vWB)
So everyone here: You're right. Please resume your gnashing of teeth, and disregard my interruption.
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 1
Disregard? About ignore?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at December 11, 2014 09:45 PM (hcfn1)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 11, 2014 09:46 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Corona at December 11, 2014 09:46 PM (fh2Y7)
Posted by: thefritz at December 11, 2014 09:46 PM (HUo8E)
It wouldn't be any worse than what's going on now.
And then, once properly 'House broken', voting the GOP back into leadership,with new personnel,
I think a Broken Arrow strategy is our only chance.
Posted by: Bildung at December 11, 2014 09:47 PM (PK//T)
Posted by: Regular Guy at December 11, 2014 09:47 PM (XYKz+)
How much longer can the democrats get away with this?
How much longer until half the 52% get a clue?
Will more democrats, who voted for Obamacare be voted out in the next election? and how many democrats will be left in the senate if that happens?
Posted by: Pointless Man at December 11, 2014 09:47 PM (YBBvF)
Posted by: Kreplach
There is no move to make when the leadership has already expressly said there will be no shutdown.
Same as last time; they make themselves look like impotent assholes from word one.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 11, 2014 09:48 PM (dxTxt)
Posted by: Corona at December 11, 2014 09:48 PM (fh2Y7)
Posted by: Pointless Man at December 11, 2014 09:48 PM (YBBvF)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2014 09:48 PM (oPiZ/)
Posted by: Corona at December 11, 2014 09:46 PM (fh2Y7)
You have a newsletter, I trust?
Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2014 09:48 PM (sdi6R)
Dems don't get to vote on Republican leaders.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 11, 2014 09:48 PM (g1DWB)
You're welcome!
Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2014 09:48 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Peaches at December 11, 2014 09:49 PM (ncAtG)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 09:49 PM (kdS6q)
Who is this ditzy old broad and where did she come from?
Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2014 09:49 PM (dVmLD)
That's the claim.
Reality: It's another Reid-Schumer-GOPe lard-fest, with nary a conservative idea in it (other than lowering IRS budget, that's kinda cool)... and giving some knick-knacks to K Street lobbyists is *NOT* 'pleasing your base' unless you've been in DC so long you screwed up what the meaning of your base is.
I would hope to see better legislation, but porkers like Rep Rogers were behind this. Hopes that they would do better next year, well, I have hopes for more conservatives but alas
Posted by: Hugh G Rection at December 11, 2014 09:49 PM (wT9UL)
Posted by: John Orange Boner at December 11, 2014 09:49 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 11, 2014 09:50 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2014 09:49 PM (dVmLD)
I actually googled that scrunt today, Fritz, because I had the same question. She's from Oklahoma. They're probably not wishing she'd return. She should diaf.
Posted by: Peaches at December 11, 2014 09:50 PM (ncAtG)
"393
I don't know about a third party, but couldn't House conservative
actives broker their power by simply aligning with the Dems to vote
Boner and his cronies out of leadership?"
Why would Dems want to replace an effete compromiser for a real conservative? Democrats have a sweet deal with Boehner.
Posted by: Hugh G Rection at December 11, 2014 09:51 PM (wT9UL)
Posted by: Bildung at December 11, 2014 09:47 PM (PK//T)
I'm thinking a pour l'encourager les autres strategy is our only chance. Next congressional election, Boehner's going to be up again. We either split his vote with a third party candidate (also having the nice side effect of establishing said third party), or we get our people to vote for the Donk.
Destroy enough heavy-duty RINO careers, and those who are only concerned for their ability to keep wielding power will get scared and fall in line with the will of the people.
Posted by: Cato at December 11, 2014 09:51 PM (3HxZe)
Well, that says it all, doesn't it?
Posted by: L, elle at December 11, 2014 09:51 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 11, 2014 09:51 PM (nFdGS)
And that's what this is. Bad. Good. I didn't want it to pass, but, now it has.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2014 09:52 PM (oPiZ/)
Posted by: Peaches at December 11, 2014 09:52 PM (ncAtG)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 11, 2014 09:52 PM (ucDmr)
Dems don't get to vote on Republican leaders.
Posted by: JackStraw
Speaker of the House is a vote of the whole House, partisan positions such as majority leader and whip are a vote of the respective caucuses*.
*add as many 's' are required.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 09:53 PM (kdS6q)
The Democrats will always out-parliament, out-scheme, and out-wit the Republicans.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 11, 2014 09:53 PM (MgU6y)
Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2014 09:49 PM (dVmLD)
She came from OK with her high cheek boned Indian skin that got her minority status at Harvard. Course no one in her family is Cherokee, but those high cheek bones don't lie.
She also likes to flip houses and made a mill doing it.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 11, 2014 09:53 PM (0FSuD)
When he announced there would be no more shutdowns last month -- this is what he meant.
That's why I'm not surprised at all what happened tonight.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 11, 2014 09:53 PM (ZPrif)
You're guess is as good as mine.
Somebody propped her up there, gave her the money and lined up her advisors, so she must have something going for her.
I guess.
Maybe.
She sure lies well, I'll give her that.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 11, 2014 09:54 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: TOperspective at December 11, 2014 09:54 PM (a3gsG)
This is a technique (Ace's targeting) that I wish we had started years ago, but better late than never. You'll still have scum as your representatives, but you might have a chance to make them nervous scum!
Posted by: John Orange Boner at December 11, 2014 09:54 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: CDR M at December 11, 2014 09:54 PM (93D1V)
Posted by: thefritz at December 11, 2014 09:54 PM (HUo8E)
The R leadership always knew they'd have a certain number of members needing to be "more Catholic than the Pope" on spending for the constituents back home and they'd allow them to be that way with enough Dems who weren't ready to saw off the plank behind Obama for good.
This was always going to pass. Everything else is theater.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at December 11, 2014 09:55 PM (ljZD2)
Come on, you never want to 'crack the crab' and then follow it with a 'Michael Moore'. That's a huge smothering risk for your lady - unsafe sex.
Posted by: East Bay Jay at December 11, 2014 09:56 PM (7v8o1)
Posted by: TheEmperorCletusAugustus at December 11, 2014 09:57 PM (D8wc5)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 11, 2014 09:57 PM (/9Mak)
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at December 11, 2014 09:55 PM (ljZD2)
'zackly right, t-daddy! fuckin' shitshow this is.
Posted by: Peaches at December 11, 2014 09:59 PM (ncAtG)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2014 09:59 PM (fL/7/)
Elizabeth Warren was the only person in any of this to display any honor. The repukes that voted against it knew Boehner had dems to make up for their illusory votes.
Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2014 10:00 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: Peaches at December 11, 2014 09:52 PM (ncAtG)
Says the 'ette who lives in CA.
I like the proposal to split California into six states. At least two or three of them would be conservative. Do you see that going anywhere?
Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2014 10:01 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Bill Cosby at December 11, 2014 10:01 PM (ncAtG)
They have sold our country down the river at every single turn.
I am very close at this point to committing to not vote for another Republican of any sort. That is the next stage for me and millions more like me -- not refusing to vote for establishment/non-conservative Republicans, but refusing to vote for any Republicans at all. To earn my vote, conservatives would have to be a part of another party entirely. That's what I'm considering at this point -- six years ago, I took the first step in refusing to vote for another non-conservative, and I've been confirmed in that choice at every single turn over a six-year period -- best decision I ever made.
The Republican Party -- through its economic, foreign, military, domestic, and every other segment of policies -- is actively damaging the country. Every single day.
Posted by: Igor at December 11, 2014 10:01 PM (/514B)
Lots of youtubes of her mercilessly grilling that tool Geithner on TBTLive bailouts and fake modification plans with tax dollars
Posted by: ginaswo at December 11, 2014 10:02 PM (skIEr)
Posted by: tsgsjeremy at December 11, 2014 10:02 PM (N/MTv)
It will pass with democrats and a few republicans, or Boner gets the blame for shutting down the government.
Can't the GOP play this game?
Posted by: Pointless Man at December 11, 2014 10:02 PM (YBBvF)
I heard that pages were added overnight too!
The Michigan conservative that switched vote early today didn't vote for the Bill, because he hadn't read it. He voted to allow it to proceed.
Finally, Eff Boehner!!!
Posted by: Carol at December 11, 2014 10:03 PM (sj3Ax)
states. At least two or three of them would be conservative. Do you
see that going anywhere?
Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2014 10:01 PM (sdi6R)
that'll just give us 5 more shades of stupid. personally, i'm moving the the first state that gets serious about secession. our federal government has gone so far off the rails, i don't think anything can get it back on course at this point.
Posted by: Peaches at December 11, 2014 10:03 PM (ncAtG)
Welcome to the wonderful world of compromise progDemocrats; welcome to the world of "you get this, and we get that". Welcome to the world of realpolitick, Washington-style. The fighting will go on in skirmishes around everything you progDemocrats hold dear, and you will see them eroded away or altered beyond what you ever thought possible as part of a deal to get something else or keep that other thing going.
Their tears will rain down like some sort of liquid from vaporous masses above the ground - and I shall rejoice in that even if I lose battles; I will still rejoice in the wails from the worshipers of Baal.
*Charles Bronson voice* It ain't over yet. *Charles Bronson voice*
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Check Out Our Humbugs at the Outrage Outlet! (Bahs not incl.) at December 11, 2014 10:03 PM (g+akU)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 11, 2014 10:04 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: seamrog at December 11, 2014 10:05 PM (0wXtt)
*Glug, glug, puff, puff.*
Now, Carol, I'm just trying to prove that the GOP can rule and work with the President.
Posted by: Johnny "Cheeto" Boner at December 11, 2014 10:05 PM (oPiZ/)
Posted by: Corona at December 11, 2014 10:05 PM (fh2Y7)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 11, 2014 10:06 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 11, 2014 10:06 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2014 10:06 PM (oPiZ/)
So it passed the house and goes to the Senate where the democrats will take out everything the GOP wants and send it back to the House. It will pass with democrats and a few republicans, or Boner gets the blame for shutting down the government.
Posted by: Pointless Man
[spoilers] tag please!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2014 10:06 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Tea Party at December 11, 2014 10:07 PM (pmzey)
Posted by: tsgsjeremy at December 11, 2014 10:07 PM (N/MTv)
Posted by: seamrog at December 11, 2014 10:08 PM (0wXtt)
Posted by: tsgsjeremy at December 11, 2014 10:07 PM (N/MT
Get some CSPAN footage, speed up, add Yakity Sax
Posted by: Secundus at December 11, 2014 10:08 PM (kFJvg)
Liz's ancestral medicine is unsurpassed in the New World.
Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2014 10:10 PM (dVmLD)
if only they would vote the way they were supposed to now, we'd be ready for the fight that matters next year.
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2014 10:10 PM (RiMtm)
Posted by: Igor at December 11, 2014 10:01 PM (/514B)
This statement could have been written by a majority of the Whig Party... in the 1850s
Posted by: Media at December 11, 2014 10:11 PM (f0pWu)
Posted by: Corona at December 11, 2014 10:11 PM (fh2Y7)
Posted by: Barry O. at December 11, 2014 10:12 PM (ncAtG)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 11, 2014 10:12 PM (OCcU9)
Posted by: seamrog at December 11, 2014 10:13 PM (0wXtt)
Posted by: Corona at December 11, 2014 10:14 PM (fh2Y7)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 11, 2014 10:14 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: John Boehner's Liver at December 11, 2014 10:14 PM (pmzey)
states. At least two or three of them would be conservative. Do you
see that going anywhere?"
1. no, it's not going anywhere.
2. you should be glad, because you'd be lucky if even one, maybe two, would be even somewhat conservative...and all the rest would be Sandra Fluke blue, so instead of just Boxer Shorts Fineswine, you'd have 8 or 10 clones of them, plus most of the HoR seats would still be blue.
IOW, one big pile of shit is easier to deal with 5 or 6 smaller ones scattered all around you.
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2014 10:14 PM (RiMtm)
I did not know that getting a law degree (or a journalism degree) qualifies one to be an expert at all other professions.
Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2014 10:10 PM (dVmLD)
It does. It's like magic.
That's why they rule over us. Because they know more than we do about everything.
Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2014 10:14 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 11, 2014 10:15 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 11, 2014 10:15 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: seamrog five at December 11, 2014 10:15 PM (0wXtt)
shes been working night after night for her priorities to work on this
bill!"
she doesn't have kids she loves: they are just the requisite lifestyle accessories she was told she had to have.
if she loved them, she'd go home to them
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 11, 2014 10:16 PM (RiMtm)
No, split up is better. Lots of repubs in wide swathes of rural CA. Sacramento is full of shit lib-tards.
Posted by: Corona at December 11, 2014 10:19 PM (fh2Y7)
the 2 of us need look no more
we both found what we were looking for
with a friend to call my own, I'll never be alone
and, you, my friend will see, you have a vote in me.
Posted by: seamrog five at December 11, 2014 10:21 PM (0wXtt)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 11, 2014 10:22 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: omg at December 11, 2014 10:24 PM (zwNax)
Of course Dems wouldn't cooperate merely to install a less agreeable (to them) Republican--it would have to be a complete coup to install a Dem speaker, even Pelosi.
Could it be any worse?
But it could turn things for the better. Only fhen will the RINOs know we mean business and come to the table with new leadership and a new agenda.
If we like it, we just throw over the Dems and put the GOP back in.
Posted by: Bildung at December 11, 2014 10:24 PM (PK//T)
I would add "Stay focused, do not indulge in any histrionics, and set up each thing for the remaining House and Senate Democrats to look over and vote on." In short, act like adults confronted with a mass of spoiled children. Stay calm, state what you have and what is open for compromise, and just do that.
(I have no polling data to support this other than my own observations, but adults seem to like calm and quiet so they can get on with the rest of their lives; screaming and carrying on in Washington or their state capitols tends to bring out the irritation-reaction from them; think of it as the 'dad-turning-around-in-the station-wagon' reaction. Dad doesn't know who started it, but if the crap doesn't stop he will reach back and start swatting randomly, and mom has already folded her arms and is not open as a Court of Appeal. Describing politicians as unruly children set off to cut the grass and rake the leaves is actually generous to the politicians - describing them as squabbling siblings in the backseat on that five hour drive to the grandparents' to see the cousins is far more accurate in how most view them.)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Check Out Our Humbugs at the Outrage Outlet! (Bahs not incl.) at December 11, 2014 10:26 PM (g+akU)
subject. You don't go along, you challenge every single lie and myth
and distortion, at the first articulation thereof. Every time."
Yes, it's PR 101! (nice comment number there.)
When you correct the premise, you then have free ride to frame the discussion in your way. Thus, you end up restating your PR no matter how obnoxious the question is.
Posted by: Hugh G Rection at December 11, 2014 10:30 PM (wT9UL)
Posted by: Corona at December 11, 2014 10:45 PM (fh2Y7)
We have to get rid of the Rinos...we have to!
Posted by: gonzotx at December 11, 2014 10:50 PM (eV1YV)
Clarifying my Broken Arrow proposal--the Speakership is voted on by the entire House, not just the majority party."
Yeah, Give Pelosi more leverage. real smart (not).
Posted by: Hugh G Rection at December 11, 2014 10:57 PM (wT9UL)
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As Gohmert said, Bohner picked up several liberal Democrat votes tonight.
Posted by: Hillary at December 11, 2014 11:07 PM (/GgDU)
Posted by: AnnaS at December 11, 2014 11:30 PM (P+I7L)
Basically the taxpayer is now on the hook for untold trillions in derivative losses. This sensible provision required any institution that wanted to trade derivatives had to trade them in non-insured subsidiaries. Those subsidiaries could fail without government consequence.
Well now those failures will have dire government consequences. And all this to placate Wall Street weasels who crashed the global economy, fleeced the American taxpayer for hundreds of billions and who don't even vote Republican or support conservative principles.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at December 12, 2014 12:21 AM (K1SnB)
TEFFGIACOMT.
Every single one of them. Every single one.
Posted by: John A. Fleming at December 12, 2014 12:42 AM (K6udK)
I've sever seen a gap like this on ONT?
Posted by: Carol at December 12, 2014 03:31 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Tina at December 12, 2014 05:19 PM (DyZIK)
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