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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd.aoshq at gee mail.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Worse and Worse: Rolling Stone Admitted There Were A Few Minor Problems with Its UVA Rape Story Just as Washington Post Was About to Drop the Nuke on ThemRolling Stone doesn't appear to have dug into the details of its story (the details of which already should have been confirmed) on its own. Rather, it seems that the Washington Post dug into the details, asked Rolling Stone for comment, and Rolling Stone, realizing it had an indefensible story (and I do emphasize the word "story") on its hands, not to mention a likely hundred million dollar defamation lawsuit, scrambled to say Oh we totes got taken in by our source. You can read Allah's digest, or go to the Washington Post's expose of the false Rolling Stone story.Well. This is very Salem Witch-hunt like. We have one likely hysteric make an implausible accusation, one involving ritual rape as a core institutional recruitment tool, and when people say, "That seems somewhat implausible to me," there come the shrieks from the other hysterics: Then you are a Rape Denier! How is this different from Salem? "I saw Goody Hauptman Dancing with the Devil." "Um, that doesn't seem very likely to me." "Do you deny the Devil's works?! Are you in fact a Devil Worshipper yourself?!?!" As Allah concludes, no lessons will be learned from this, except, I think, this one: The Hysterical Accusers now know they have to make even more hysterically defamatory accusations to shut down any kind of skeptical inquiry at an even earlier stage. If you permit people to ask questions, then they will eventually come across the truth. Hence, you must cow them from ever even considering asking a question in the first place. The only problem here, from the perspective of the Hysterical Shrieking Accusers brigade, is that they were too moderate and too soft in their nonstop hysterical accusations. Exit quotations:
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It's like I got slapped all over again.
Posted by: Curtis at December 05, 2014 04:00 PM (Ua6T/) 2
That last bit reminds me of the college radio chick at Oberlin who wouldn't verify that Real Talk With Jimbo or whatever Dunham called it never exicited. Why? A conservative was looking to discredit a liberal hero. Can't have that.
Posted by: Rejected Hillary Country Songs at December 05, 2014 04:01 PM (BPMYx) 3
Women (and men) who lie about rape should be jailed.
And those who publish such false accounts should be sued back to the Stone Age. Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 05, 2014 04:01 PM (wtvvX) 4
Burn the heretics who oppose our agenda. Use any means even if they are lies to destroy. All for the cause and Peoples Tribunals.
Mather only wishes he had thought of this approach. But he came close with the piling on of stones and other tortures. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2014 04:01 PM (X8n03) 5
The thought of the Rolling Stone being sued into vapor and an empty building, makes me tingly down there.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at December 05, 2014 04:02 PM (UtwNa) 6
Or you wait a long enough time so that details aren't so easy to fact check.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at December 05, 2014 04:02 PM (IOt29) 7
It's Rape of Spades today!
Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2014 04:02 PM (2Ojst) 8
Off sock. That'd be a mouthful even for a country title.
Posted by: Lauren at December 05, 2014 04:02 PM (BPMYx) Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 05, 2014 04:02 PM (wtvvX) 10
That Melissa McEwan is quite a Deep Thinker.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 05, 2014 04:02 PM (8ZskC) 11
I can't state this more emphatically: If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her.
------ GOOGLE TRANSLATE: I sooooo wanted this to be true ..... damn.... but there's no way in hell I'm admitting we were wrong. Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:02 PM (NaV4z) 12
I'll go out on a limb here. The bint was probably "depressed" because (1) she was coming off a coke, scotch, or meth binge, (2) she was spurned by a guy who didn't want to fuck crazy, or (3) she was just being a whiny child upset about being alive.
Pick one. Posted by: Inspector Cussword at December 05, 2014 04:03 PM (scgac) 13
the Post should know about this kind of thing, after being taken completely in by the Jimmie's World story years ago.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 05, 2014 04:03 PM (l3vZN) 14
As Allah concludes, no lessons will be learned from this, except, I think, this one:
----- That may be true of the left wing journalist class, but not so for society in general. The first thought of many was the Duke Lacrosse case. Next time, the first thought will be the Duke Lacrosse case and the UVA case. This will cause more in the public to be skeptical of media accounts. That is a good thing, and a lesson learned. Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:03 PM (gmeXX) Posted by: fluffy at December 05, 2014 04:03 PM (Ua6T/) 16
Corgis called.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2014 04:03 PM (qbJnm) Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at December 05, 2014 04:03 PM (UtwNa) 18
Maybe Jackie is a mean-spirited tranny hooker....huh?
Posted by: BignJames at December 05, 2014 04:04 PM (j7iSn) 19
If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her.
Do they even understand English? Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2014 04:04 PM (qbJnm) 20
Look how quickly all the media glamour of all the copycat McMartin cases vanished when it was demonstrated that the 'therapists' were inducing false memories in the children.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2014 04:05 PM (X8n03) 21
>>can't state this more emphatically: If Jackie's story is partially or
wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her What the hell does that even mean? Is she trying to say that just because Jackie lied doesn't mean that those of you who questioned the veracity of the story had the right to do so? Must be a message of Opposite Land... Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2014 04:05 PM (ABcz/) 22
Facts are irrelevant, unless, of course, they support the Greater Narrative.
Posted by: USA at December 05, 2014 04:05 PM (m8hf7) Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at December 05, 2014 04:05 PM (UtwNa) 24
Exactly what you would picture.
---- Crowleys maiden name wouldnt happen to be McEwan now would it??? Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:05 PM (NaV4z) 25
It really is Cathy from the comic strip. Resemblance is uncanny.
Ack!! James O'Keefe @JamesOKeefeIII "the arc of moral universe is long but it bends toward justice" @MissShuYen the look on @kirstinalv face @stranahan pic.twitter.com/HBHfvFh3QQ Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 05, 2014 04:05 PM (ZPrif) 26
People who make false accusations should be punished as their alledged attacker would have been. I know a man who spent two months in jail over a threatening text message his ex sent herself from another phone. After he was exonerated by the phone records she was not punished in any way Posted by: The Jackhole at December 05, 2014 04:05 PM (6/J77) 27
I will believe the woman's account of forcible rape until the men involved can disprove her claims. It smells of violent rape to me. Posted by: Dan Rather at December 05, 2014 04:05 PM (3/wAJ) 28
So when's Erdley going to collect her Pulitzer?
I bet that she won't even lose her job over this. Posted by: L, elle at December 05, 2014 04:06 PM (2x3L+) 29
Sooo many fucking lies being casually thrown around these days. It's a little ... disgusting? sad? unnerving? sigh
Posted by: Mike in the Hinterlands at December 05, 2014 04:06 PM (DNpio) 30
"Where good Sirs can I get my reputation back?"
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2014 04:06 PM (X8n03) 31
Still...one has to wonder...
Posted by: Woopie G. Wonders at December 05, 2014 04:06 PM (NpXoL) 32
That tweet is insane. Absolutely insane.
The sick part? I understand what it means. It means that the being who posted it believes that the only possible reason to doubt Jackie is because the doubter never ever ever believes that a woman has been raped. That is vile. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 05, 2014 04:06 PM (mf5HN) 33
Hopefully this unsubstantiated story will be the last gasp of that rag.
It'd be a fitting end to a magazine that hasn't been relevant since they reported Dylan going electric. Posted by: The Shaven Yak at December 05, 2014 04:06 PM (z2f1n) 34
Melissa McEwan
Exactly what you would picture. She has the luxury among females of being able to think of rape in only purely theoretical terms. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 05, 2014 04:06 PM (8ZskC) 35
Dear Mr. McEwan - it wasn't Jackie we disbelieved, it was Rolling Stone. And the subsequent facts completely validate our reasons for disbelieving her. There is actually no real reason to not believe Jackie because we never heard her speak. We heard her through Rolling Stone, but apparently she asked Rolling Stone to not print her story. This is an episode in journalistic malpractice.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:06 PM (gmeXX) 36
j___eraghty @j___eraghty
Rolling Stone has always gone out of its way to emphasize that violence is not sexy. pic.twitter.com/flFLJKlnmi Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 05, 2014 04:06 PM (ZPrif) 37
When the preznit openly lies, all will openly lie
Posted by: Joe Wilson at December 05, 2014 04:06 PM (LoIJo) Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:06 PM (FsuaD) 39
I can't state this more emphatically: If Jackie's story is partially or
wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her. Does the person even have opposable thumbs? Posted by: pep at December 05, 2014 04:06 PM (4nR9/) 40
Fake, but accurate. There's a vast right wing conspiracy to hide the truth. Young impressionable girls should embrace my candidacy and let me take them under my wings and other places to protect them from the males that get away with these crimes every day.
Posted by: Sir Edmund Hillary Clinton at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (zxQ4h) 41
Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moon light Melissa?
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (SQkRc) 42
Tbone says this shit is true
Posted by: Cory Hooker at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (6/J77) 43
Pradheep Shanker MD @Neoavatara
@AceofSpadesHQ I remember all the beautiful self reflection of truth seekers after Duke lacrosse case. Yeah, so much for that. Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (ZPrif) 44
Ms. McEwan makes me think of a guard in a woman's gulag.
Posted by: NYC Parent at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (HEo6y) 45
The Rolling Rather
Posted by: USA at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (m8hf7) Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (wtvvX) 47
The slobbering radfems like Valenti and Marcotte are going absolutely batshit on Twitter.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (2Ojst) Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (UtwNa) 49
I have a memo that proves it!
Posted by: Mary Mapes at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (8ZskC) 50
Wait, "validate the reasons for disbelieving?"
Listen, I hate the fraternity system, I happen to think it attracts the dregs of society. And yet still, my main reason for doubting was I couldn't believe that Jackie's own "friends" were so callous as to say "hey wouldn't shouldn't take you to the hospital...because...social stuff." If one had said that, I might believe it. Had they simply claimed they didn't see anything, I might have believed that too. But to have it brought to their attention, and still say "nope, not even doing the simplest thing." Yeah I'm sorry if I can't believe humanity is that fucking evil. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (HDwDg) 51
And we would've got away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids...
Posted by: Kobe Bryant's accuser, Duke Lacrosse accuser, Rolling Stone at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (RnSfY) 52
Jackie said early in the week that she felt manipulated by Erdely, the Rolling Stone reporter, saying that she "felt completely out of control over my own story.
Rats, sinking ship. Some disassembly imminent. Posted by: Blue Hen at December 05, 2014 04:08 PM (Spluw) Posted by: Phi Kappa Psi at December 05, 2014 04:08 PM (P1WNR) 54
Melissa McEwan
@Shakestweetz Melissa McEwan is the proprietor of Shakesville, a progressive feminist blog and a community of teaspoon-wielding badasses who expect more --------------------- Spoken like a true water buffalo in heat. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 05, 2014 04:08 PM (l1zOH) Posted by: wheatie at December 05, 2014 04:08 PM (kWxsq) Posted by: T. Jeff at December 05, 2014 04:08 PM (/Ho8c) 57
We appear to have a rape hoax culture.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (wtvvX) ----- Add THAT one to the "Stolen" list..... Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:08 PM (NaV4z) 58
"I know it was Phi Psi because a year afterward my friend pointed out the building to me and said that's where it happened."
Yep. Psycho. Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at December 05, 2014 04:08 PM (HBAcW) 59
she must be crazier than a shithouse rat if the SJWs are abandoning ship instead of doubling down. obviously nothing happened at all.
Posted by: X at December 05, 2014 04:08 PM (KHo8t) 60
Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed Derringer Bandit at December 05, 2014 04:08 PM (M1uf/) 61
That last quote sums up the fanatic. Melissa wants to believe, she has her religion, she has her faith, and nothing can shake her out of it. And the only thing that will make her more dangerous is one of her gods is proven false. No she won't take out the disappointment on the fallen "false" god; she'll take out her frustration on those who exposed the false one.
Highly dangerous in those times; use extreme caution when in the presence of one like Melissa. Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 05, 2014 04:08 PM (hLRSq) 62
I can't state this more emphatically: If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her.
One can only stare in awe at this kind of self-delusion. The War on Women is lost, comrades! Posted by: toby928(C) at December 05, 2014 04:09 PM (rwI+c) 63
Note that all of Jackie's friends, the ones Rolling Stone used to "verify" her account, are "rape activists." One says she herself was raped and attempted raped in her first two years at the school. Averaged one rape incident per year did she. It's human nature. When making a falseaccusation has nothing but upsides people will do it. Posted by: CJ at December 05, 2014 04:09 PM (9KqcB) 64
Ms. McEwan looks like she's raped a few Ben and Jerry's pints over the years...
Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2014 04:09 PM (MNq6o) 65
>>>the hell does that even mean? Is she trying to say that just because
Jackie lied doesn't mean that those of you who questioned the veracity of the story had the right to do so? yes that's precisely what she's saying. Your turning out to be right in your suspicions does not justify your having those anti-woman, pro-rapist suspicions in the first place. Posted by: ace at December 05, 2014 04:09 PM (/FnUH) 66
This is a controversial thing to discuss, I saw it lambasted over on one of the gawker cesspool sites, with this Jameis Winston or whatever his name is fellow. He made a remark that being falsly accused of rape is almost as bad as being raped.
I don't know the circumstances around his case, it seems like he is in trouble for a number of things including stealing crab legs from a grocery store or something, which seems a strange thing to steal when you are looking for a snack, but I digress. I think there is some truth to that statement, sure the psychological damage, and physical damage are not equitable on any level. But that accusation will follow you maybe to the grave regardless of if you were cleared or not, and it will influence how the world reacts to you particularly in the shrinking global environment of social media. Once an accused rapist, always an accused rapist no matter how innocent you may be. I'm guessing people kill themselves over this. How do you do the calculus for that damage? So this notion that you can't challenge this made up fantasy storytime BS is effing dangerous. This and the Lena Dunham thing makes me sick to my stomach. What is this, it's the hip thing to proclaim yourself a victim of sexual assault? That is gross, and it demeans actual victims, and makes incalculable collateral damage on those slimed with the accusations. Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at December 05, 2014 04:09 PM (n/ogz) 67
So once again the media falsely lights the torches for the mob.
That's what it's all about nowadays- satiating the mob and turning people against each other. Black against white. Straight against gay. Atheists against Christians. They thrive on the chaos and disunity it creates and are more despicable than the actual alleged or real perpetrators. Nobody, and I mean nobody has destroyed this country more than the media. If you can even call Rolling Stone part of the media. Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2014 04:09 PM (GGCsk) Posted by: Melissa McEwan at December 05, 2014 04:09 PM (IOt29) 69
I don't know about UVA guys, but I always remove broken glass, shrapnel, unexploded ordnance, and caustic chemicals from the area I intend to use for sexing a young lady. Even a drunked-up one. Of course, YMMV.
Posted by: Erowmero at December 05, 2014 04:09 PM (go5uR) 70
Dildo, an umimpeachable source if there ever was one, just informed me that misandry is the word for hating men. Feminists, such as the idiot in the quoted tweet above, are nothing more than misandrists. They plumb hate men, period. Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 05, 2014 04:09 PM (ZEeN4) 71
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Ms. McEwan makes me think of a guard in a woman's gulag. She'll end up being one of our guards in the camps. And she looks vaguely like Rachel Madcow. Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:10 PM (FsuaD) Posted by: fluffy at December 05, 2014 04:10 PM (Ua6T/) 73
The slobbering radfems like Valenti and Marcotte are going absolutely batshit on Twitter.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2014 04:07 PM (2Ojst) ---- Well ... to be fair in Marcottes case..... batshit crazy applies just about everywhere, not just twitter. Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:10 PM (NaV4z) 74
64 Ms. McEwan looks like she's raped a few Ben and Jerry's pints over the years...
Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2014 04:09 PM (MNq6o) Pints? More like 5 Quart Pails. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 05, 2014 04:10 PM (l1zOH) 75
>>>"I know it was Phi Psi because a year afterward my friend pointed out the building to me and said that's where it happened."
Yep. Psycho. ... I didn't know how much to read into that, but it sure seems to be... odd. "Oh look that's where you were raped." "OH there? thanks." Posted by: ace at December 05, 2014 04:10 PM (/FnUH) 76
she must be crazier than a shithouse rat if the SJWs are abandoning ship instead of doubling down. obviously nothing happened at all.
In fairness, I believe she got poked on campus. Posted by: toby928(C) at December 05, 2014 04:10 PM (rwI+c) 77
Melissa McEwan gets the Dan Rather award for COURAGE!!
Posted by: Dan Rather at December 05, 2014 04:10 PM (W5DcG) 78
I can't state this more emphatically: If Jackie's story is partially or
wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her. Wait, what? "If she lied, that doesn't validate wanting to make sure she wasn't lying?" Huh? In what world does that make sense? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed Derringer Bandit at December 05, 2014 04:10 PM (M1uf/) 79
That last quote sums up the fanatic. Melissa wants to believe, she has her religion, she has her faith, and nothing can shake her out of it.
---- We've said it before, but the left provides the faith that every human longs for. You can either find it in God or find it in an ideology. There is no difference, except that those who find it in God become content and happy. False gods do not satisfy that human longing for Truth, so you continue to feel miserable. Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:11 PM (gmeXX) 80
Though completely false, the story does accurately illustrate the evil that occurs on Amerikkka's college campuses on average every 0.004 seconds.
Posted by: RapeCulturalist at December 05, 2014 04:11 PM (z27Ny) Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 05, 2014 04:11 PM (ZEeN4) 82
And Sally Kohn throws her jockey strap into the ring.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:11 PM (FsuaD) 83
When she runs for office, her slogan will be "Ready for McEwan!"
[wakes screaming] Posted by: NYC Parent at December 05, 2014 04:11 PM (HEo6y) 84
.... cue up the "Hitler reacts to the rape lies from his bunker" You tube.... Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:11 PM (NaV4z) 85
McEwan is unhappy so she will use any means to make everyone else unhappy. By tearing others down does she suffer any joy in her shallow and vapid life.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2014 04:11 PM (X8n03) 86
My favorite part of the story is that "Jackie" didn't even really want to go to UVa, she wanted to go to Brown but her meanhead parents said they couldn't afford it.
1) Brown must be so proud that they are what she aspired to. 2) Her parents made a very good call, not spending themselves into late life penury so their daughter could wear a more prestigious sweatshirt, from a school she'll flunk out of anyway. Posted by: pep at December 05, 2014 04:12 PM (4nR9/) Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at December 05, 2014 04:12 PM (HBAcW) 88
I will never step foot on another college campus as long as I live. Pretty much all my experiences has led me to the conclusion that it is a colossal scam and now it's a colossal scam accompanied by the danger of false imprisonment or reputational destruction perpetrated by either disturbed or evil "rape activists"
Posted by: Naes at December 05, 2014 04:12 PM (YhayY) 89
Steiner will come.
Posted by: Hitler goes porno at December 05, 2014 04:12 PM (rwI+c) 90
Melissa McEwan, Sally Kohn, and Candy Crowley walk into a Victoria's Secret...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:12 PM (FsuaD) 91
We never rape because we're Nerds and prefer computers and gaming to humping a dry taco with a bad attitude. Posted by: Lamda Lamda Lamda at December 05, 2014 04:12 PM (3/wAJ) 92
Here is the problem: the Obama administration turned policing claims of sexual assault on campus to the schools. The schools get pressured by the loudest voices. So he loudest voices are those who look for male/white privilege behind everything, including bad weather. The school is not accountable to anyone other than the loudest voices.
A smart government would relieve these schools of this burden and return it someone competent: cops and investigators. Smart students at UVA would leave. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at December 05, 2014 04:13 PM (OWjjx) Posted by: The Truth at December 05, 2014 04:13 PM (kWxsq) 94
so are we now allowed to believe Juanita Broadbrick..?
Posted by: mallfly at December 05, 2014 04:13 PM (bJm7W) 95
Because men, who have fallen short of perfection, hurt and disappointed a little girl at one time or another and have penises that can penetrate women, they are guilty of crimes against humanity. This is their rationale. Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 05, 2014 04:13 PM (ZEeN4) Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 05, 2014 04:13 PM (IXrOn) 97
Vaginal privilege run wild.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2014 04:13 PM (g1DWB) 98
90 Melissa McEwan, Sally Kohn, and Candy Crowley walk into a Victoria's Secret...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:12 PM (FsuaD) I'm glad I didn't have lunch. That would be a terrible mess to clean up. Ewwww Jane. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 05, 2014 04:13 PM (l1zOH) 99
And deep!
Posted by: Melissa "The Snake" McEwan at December 05, 2014 04:13 PM (HEo6y) 100
What they've created is a cult (I started to say culture) that values victims. So if you strive to be valued in this cult, you have to be a victim. And the bigger a victim you are, the more value you have. Probably why Jackie went from being raped by five men to seven. One upmanship.
Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2014 04:13 PM (MNq6o) 101
Ah, a fun day here in an area of many UVA grads...
Our 'hood listserv (yes, it's very 90s) was visited loudly and often by a neighbor scold over the past few days. I made the mistake of pointing out that the original tale (which few seem to have actually read) had more holes than, well, anything else. Of course, this meant WAR, and I was quickly denounced as a RapyRightWinger of the Teabagger type who approved of Binders 4 Women. That was the nice stuff. Today I got an PM that said simply, "Mr. *, I suppose you've seen the news. You're still an asshole". To which I replied by hitting the "all view" button... I'm evil that way. Posted by: anon a mouse at December 05, 2014 04:14 PM (/jpU8) 102
is this the rape story about the purple boots and the glass covered bed ? or is this the one with candy in the debates with romney ? I am so confused ....
Posted by: alec at December 05, 2014 04:14 PM (DxQWB) 103
Women never lie about this stuff !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jenny Stienam-Carter-Jones at December 05, 2014 04:14 PM (Sd++4) 104
Melissa McEwan, Sally Kohn, and Candy Crowley walk into a Victoria's Secret...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:12 PM (FsuaD) ---- THAT was uncalled for..... Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:14 PM (NaV4z) 105
In what world does that make sense?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed Derringer Bandit at December 05, 2014 04:10 PM (M1uf/) Why, in LeftyLand, of course. Or maybe Peruvia. Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at December 05, 2014 04:14 PM (HBAcW) 106
90 Melissa McEwan, Sally Kohn, and Candy Crowley walk into a Victoria's Secret...
Posted by: Jane D'oh ______________________ Jane! We've been admonished about using the f-word, and then you go and post that? Really? Posted by: Furious George at December 05, 2014 04:14 PM (UlJ3l) 107
If the accusation ends up being totally disproven, the result is diametrically opposed to the goal. Crap like this makes people even less likely to believe claims of sexual assault, and that's very unfortunate.
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 05, 2014 04:14 PM (/Ho8c) Posted by: Melissa McEwan at December 05, 2014 04:14 PM (UtwNa) 109
Melissa McEwan, Sally Kohn, and Candy Crowley walk into a Victoria's Secret...
That's prize winning. Not sure if we can dream up a trophy grisly enough, though. Posted by: fluffy at December 05, 2014 04:14 PM (Ua6T/) 110
yes that's precisely what she's saying. Your turning out to be right in your suspicions does not justify your having those anti-woman, pro- rapist suspicions in the first place.
My reply to her? That's fine sugartits. Now make me a sammich. Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2014 04:14 PM (qbJnm) 111
I still can't breathe.
Posted by: Eri Garner, trapped beneath Melissa McEwan's left thigh at December 05, 2014 04:14 PM (IOt29) 112
It's good to see Sally Kohn is still the same insane bint she always is...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 05, 2014 04:14 PM (/4AZU) Posted by: The Political Hat at December 05, 2014 04:15 PM (lN8KC) 114
Jane if those three walked into a Victoria's Secret they would claim PIV oppression.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2014 04:15 PM (X8n03) 115
So it's now time to rehash a story that happened at my alma mater:
Girl goes missing over Cinco de Mayo weekend. Becomes minor national news story. IIRC she disappeared Friday night. Almost immediately by the next morning the parents were in town from wherever they were. Which struck a few of us as odd, because, I mean all of us had been off the grid for a few hours here and there. Just as a matter of...life. Bam search, tons of shit. By Sunday afternoon she's been found...exactly in the same restaurant district where she went missing. Story is still over the local media. Statements saying "she decided to go camping with some friends." This raises some questions, after all who decides to go camping at 10PM on Friday (the last time her restaurant friends saw her)? Plus how'd she get back to the same restaurant district (several miles from school) by Sunday afternoon? The place they said she went camping was a good 2 drive. Suddenly people are being told "DON'T QUESTION THE NARRATIVE." and BAM all the news stories go dark. I mean literally. Links from places like Fark are now 404'd. The school pulled some huge favors to make it happen. Because we couldn't question it, the truth might hurt. Can't know....lalalalalalalallaalal. (The rumor from people who were connected enough to know was it was a drug bender, which is why the parents appeared so suddenly, they knew exactly what it was, because it had happened before.) Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 05, 2014 04:15 PM (HDwDg) Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:15 PM (FsuaD) 117
Today I got an PM that said simply, "Mr. *, I suppose you've seen the news. You're still an asshole".
---- Would make for a great tombstone. Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:15 PM (gmeXX) 118
54 Melissa McEwan
@Shakestweetz Melissa McEwan is the proprietor of Shakesville, a progressive feminist blog and a community of teaspoon-wielding badasses who expect more --------------------- Spoken like a true water buffalo in heat. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 05, 2014 04:08 PM (l1zOH) I first read that as "tampon-wielding badasses." Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2014 04:15 PM (2Ojst) 119
You have no right to dis believe lies. You have no right to believe truth.
You must follow the herd. Moo Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 05, 2014 04:15 PM (91eZY) 120
I posted this in the last thread before realizing this was up:
Now we know why the police were never contacted, as an investigation of a false accusation would leave "Jackie" open to prosecution. By the way, why should "Jackie" be allowed to remain anonymous? She's not a victim anymore. She made a false accusation of a brutal gang rape against a prominent fraternity. Posted by: holygoat at December 05, 2014 04:15 PM (elG7j) 121
can't state this more emphatically: If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her
Melissa McEwan (@Shakestweetz) Read this idiotic sentence over carefully and see if you can actually understand it. Try to diagram it. As much as I can untangle out of that mess. If Jackie's story is untrue, you should still believe Jackie. Or else you are disbelieving her(is that even a word?). Which means that you are not believing her, which would be wrong but would be right if she is not telling a true story, or is telling an untrue story. OMG. Didn't they blow up a robot on StarTrek one time giving it some sentence that it couldn't validate? I think my wires are smoking.... Posted by: Jen the original at December 05, 2014 04:15 PM (oOlEN) 122
"The Hysterical Accusers now know they have to make even more hysterically defamatory accusations to shut down any kind of skeptical inquiry at an even earlier stage."
They may think that is the best tactic, but pushing the envelope on the hysteria and hype usually does the opposite. It didn't work out well for the Salem witch accusers, the tales got too outlandish to sustain; and the same will be done here. We're done with climate hysteria, we're now in sexual assault hysteria, and when that is done we'll have another fit of hysteria over something or another. Thus the head-cases will get the attention they crave, the fashionably sanctimonious will be able to preen, and blogs will have a never-ending supply of post material! Yay! Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for all of Your Holiday Needs! at December 05, 2014 04:16 PM (hLRSq) Posted by: Margaret Cho at December 05, 2014 04:16 PM (3/wAJ) 124
He made a remark that being falsly accused of rape is almost as bad as being raped.
I think I'd agree with that (the "almost" part, anyway). Even if you're acquitted, the accusation will follow you for the rest of your life. Think of the Duke Lacrosse case, as one "for example." Your reputation is ruined. You might be able to run away from it (say- moving far away from home to where people haven't heard about the story, or don't realize you're *that* person), but why should you have to? And that's only one bad part of false rape charges. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed Derringer Bandit at December 05, 2014 04:16 PM (M1uf/) Posted by: NYC Parent at December 05, 2014 04:16 PM (HEo6y) 126
Vaginal privilege run wild.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2014 04:13 PM (g1DWB) Vaginal privilege, where you can charge your iPhone these days. Pop Star Pays To Charge His Phone In Woman's Vagina Pop star? Usher. Paid $20 to "experience" this "art." http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/pop-star-pays-charge-his-phone-womans-vagina Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 05, 2014 04:16 PM (IXrOn) 127
Let the lawsuits flow.
Posted by: Jaws at December 05, 2014 04:16 PM (WKNX4) 128
And I am really getting sick and tired of them waving their lady parts in everyone's face. As if a quirk of biology gives them a Get out of Jail Free card.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2014 04:16 PM (X8n03) 129
THIS CAMPUS HAS OPERATED FOR 5 DAYS WITHOUT A RAPE. Rape awareness begins with you.
Posted by: A Public Safety Notice at December 05, 2014 04:16 PM (8ZskC) 130
90 Melissa McEwan, Sally Kohn, and Candy Crowley walk into a Victoria's Secret...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:12 PM (FsuaD) The sales clerk looked up and said, "What is this? A joke?" Posted by: MikeH at December 05, 2014 04:16 PM (84oau) 131
The first suspicious thing was the absence of Gloria Allred. That woman can smell dollars from half a continent away.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 05, 2014 04:16 PM (rwI+c) 132
And it's a shame for real victims. Because in reality, there is an unwarranted degree of this nonsense on college campuses.
It's hard enough for victims of these assaults to come forward. Then you have this fairytale teller, who contacts Rolling Stone before the police. Most of us call that a giant "clue". You know, telling the media and providing your "assault" as a scoop, rather than a description on an arrest warrant. I suspect the alleged victim knew that law enforcement would bring a lot more scrutiny. Scrutiny the clowns a RS wouldn't provide. So the clown patrol at RS brought false and unwarranted attention to UVA. If I am UVA's counsel, right now I am filing a rather large lawsuit. Ditto the "attacker". Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2014 04:16 PM (GGCsk) 133
I didn't know how much to read into that, but it sure seems to be... odd. "Oh look that's where you were raped." "OH there? thanks."
Posted by: ace at December 05, 2014 04:10 PM (/FnUH) I'm at a loss here. Is there a common reaction for survivors of violent crime (proven cases) when passing the scene where they were attacked? In such cases, I suppose that the victims have a devil of a time being on campus where it took place, and yet they must. Posted by: Blue Hen at December 05, 2014 04:16 PM (Spluw) 134
The slobbering radfems like Valenti and Marcotte are going absolutely batshit on Twitter.
Linky? Popcorn is at the ready. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 05, 2014 04:17 PM (0HooB) 135
Posted by: The Truth at December 05, 2014 04:13 PM (kWxsq) At least I'm being left alone for awhile. Posted by: the chicken at December 05, 2014 04:17 PM (sgrzZ) 136
Jen, which time? Norman or Nomad?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2014 04:17 PM (X8n03) 137
>>He made a remark that being falsly accused of rape is almost as bad as being raped.
By not naming the rapist it was worse than that - it made every member of the fraternity bare the stain of being a potential rapist. And then UVA's actions seemed to indicate that all fraternity members are potential rapists. This is no different that that Charles Stewart dude in Boston who murdered his pregnant wife and then told the police it was a young black man who did it. Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2014 04:17 PM (ABcz/) 138
Which is a bittersweet memory for a Jewish girl.
Posted by: S Silverman looking better and better at December 05, 2014 04:18 PM (HEo6y) 139
By
the way, why should "Jackie" be allowed to remain anonymous? She's not a victim anymore. She made a false accusation of a brutal gang rape against a prominent fraternity. ----- But didn't she ask that it not be printed? I'm not a journalist. If a source burns you, from what I gather you are then free to report the source. But what if a source burns you after said source asks you not to use her story, but you do anyway? Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:18 PM (gmeXX) Posted by: alec at December 05, 2014 04:18 PM (DxQWB) 141
116 Is this better?
Melissa McEwan, Sally Kohn and Candy Crowley walk into a Ben and Jerry's... Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:15 PM (FsuaD Melissa McEwan, Sally Kohn and Candy Crowley walk into the nearest municipality sewer treatment plant and drown themselves. I think that is better. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 05, 2014 04:18 PM (l1zOH) 142
I just come back at idiots like Amanda "I'm a vagina, only a vagina, always a vagina" Marcotte, that McEwan landbeast, and Kohn with the fact that they are rape enablers.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at December 05, 2014 04:18 PM (4df7R) 143
I'm writing a new song about Jackie's story. It's called;
My baby got raped at the Five and Dime so I took her to Walmart instead Posted by: Fritz at December 05, 2014 04:18 PM (UzPAd) 144
Rolling Stones insurance company would like to echo Sally Kohn's tweet, except for the "victim-blaming" idiocy. The rest, it applauds.
Posted by: MTF at December 05, 2014 04:18 PM (6um35) 145
134 The slobbering radfems like Valenti and Marcotte are going absolutely batshit on Twitter.
Linky? Popcorn is at the ready. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 05, 2014 04:17 PM (0HooB) Twitchy is on it. http://tinyurl.com/knnv68n and http://tinyurl.com/ldaacs8 Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2014 04:19 PM (2Ojst) 146
"I didn't know how much to read into that, but it sure seems to be... odd.
"Oh look that's where you were raped." "OH there? thanks." " Yeah that one struck me as super crazy too. I mean, I get if you were sort of disoriented and all frat houses look similar you may not have known exactly which one you were in, but it seems incredibly odd that you would come to the realization of where the act took place a year later because someone else told you it happened there. Was she told by one of the friends who refused to take her to the hospital because, parties? Posted by: Lauren at December 05, 2014 04:19 PM (BPMYx) 147
So the clown patrol at RS brought false and unwarranted attention to UVA.
If I am UVA's counsel, right now I am filing a rather large lawsuit. ----- UVA brought unwanted attention to itself by acting so shamelessly upon reading the article. I have no sympathy for UVA right now. Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:19 PM (gmeXX) 148
Pretty much all my experiences has led me to the conclusion that it is a
colossal scam and now it's a colossal scam accompanied by the danger of false imprisonment or reputational destruction perpetrated by either disturbed or evil "rape activists" Yep. If I have my way, the little Tenthers will never set foot on a university campus (at least, not as residents). Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed Derringer Bandit at December 05, 2014 04:19 PM (M1uf/) 149
Wait. She had to have it pointed out to her which frat house it was that she was raped in a year later? She didn't know before that?
And the RS didn't investigate the claims because the author was specifically looking for this type of story so of course they wanted to believe it and would ignore any warnings that hey we might want to double check this. Posted by: Buzzion at December 05, 2014 04:19 PM (z/Ubi) 150
But... but... raping girls is what frats do and just because we couldn't provide the "proof" that the Hetero-patriarchical hegemony sexistly demands doesn't mean that they are not all rapists who should be punished!
they are frats full of penis-people! Of course they are guilty! Evidence and facts are dont' change that!!1! NO JUSTIS!!! NO PIECE!!1!`~eleventy!!1! NO JUSTIS!!! NO PIECE!!1!`~eleventy!!1! NO JUSTIS!!! NO PIECE!!1!`~eleventy!!1! Posted by: Womyns Studies Graduate Student at December 05, 2014 04:20 PM (lN8KC) 151
Melissa McEwan, Sally Kohn and Candy Crowley walk into a Ben and Jerry's...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:15 PM (FsuaD The bartender says, "Where'd you get the pig." The woman says, "That's not a pig, that's a Candy Crowley." He says, "I was talking to the Sally Kohn." Posted by: MikeH at December 05, 2014 04:20 PM (84oau) 152
The hateful comments about me on this blog will do you no good because I will be a moderator of at least two Republican debates. So there! Posted by: Candy Crowley at December 05, 2014 04:20 PM (3/wAJ) 153
Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2014 04:17 PM (ABcz/
By claiming it was a 7 person gang rape you pretty much cast the whole fraternity in doubt anyway. I find it hard to believe such a thing would be possible to pull off in secret in a frat house, meaning your at least implying a sort of benign neglect by the other members (if not outright condoning.) Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 05, 2014 04:20 PM (HDwDg) 154
Wait...isn't this how Al Sharpton rose to fame? With a fake rape story?
Posted by: wheatie at December 05, 2014 04:20 PM (kWxsq) 155
You realize, of course, that this (#Ferguson, #UVArape, #ExecOrder, et al) is just a big hissy fit that the Left are throwing over the 2014 results.
Teh Rethuglicans are evil, and the ungrateful, pasty-faced proles must be shown the error of their backwards ways by being thrown a squirrel every Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at December 05, 2014 04:20 PM (HBAcW) 156
This is a good piece that actually focuses on this Erdley asshole and some of her past statements on writing. Unfortunately, the link is to the Daily Caller and their shitty website. The writing, however, is Ace-esque. Last couple lines are great.
http://tinyurl.com/ljeuopy Posted by: L, elle at December 05, 2014 04:21 PM (y4bHB) 157
Vaginal privilege, where you can charge your iPhone these days.
Pop Star Pays To Charge His Phone In Woman's Vagina The iCooter. Complete with waterproof docking bay. Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2014 04:21 PM (qbJnm) 158
Ace, Even worse, there are reports that "jackie" asked to be taken out of the article. Rolling Stones obviously refused.
https://twitter.com/danieljpayne/status/540961853967712258/photo/1 Posted by: USA at December 05, 2014 04:21 PM (m8hf7) 159
It's still totes ok that I was caught on tape maniacally cackling about getting an actual rapist off scot-free while trashing the actual victim?
Posted by: Hillary 2016 at December 05, 2014 04:21 PM (RnSfY) 160
Is this better?
Melissa McEwan, Sally Kohn and Candy Crowley walk into a Ben and Jerry's... Posted by: Jane D'oh ...Ben and Jerry's stock shoots up so fast it breaks the DOW. Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2014 04:21 PM (MNq6o) 161
I liked this one from Amanda Marcotte, or How Leftist Harridans Argue in a nutshell:
"Interesting how rape apologists think that if they can "discredit" one rape story, that means no other rape stories can be true, either." Get all that you rape apologists? Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 05, 2014 04:21 PM (xSCb6) 162
Have any of the parents of the fraternity members spoken out? Lawyered up? Because I'd be like a rapid honey badger.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:21 PM (FsuaD) 163
Keep in mind that UVA didn't just shut down Phi Psi; they shut down every fraternity on campus. This fits in with the previously mentioned agenda of the RS "journalist," who had stated she was specifically looking for a campus that did not have a strong feminist presence. In their campus war on men, nothing screams "Patricarchy!" to feminists like Fraternity Row.
Posted by: Country Singer at December 05, 2014 04:22 PM (nL0sw) Posted by: pep at December 05, 2014 04:22 PM (4nR9/) 165
Dammit. rapid = rabid
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:22 PM (FsuaD) 166
152 The hateful comments about me on this blog will do you no good because I will be a moderator of at least two Republican debates. So there!
Posted by: Candy Crowley _________________________ Hmmmm. We could have sworn we booked her for at least five debates. Posted by: Republican National Committee at December 05, 2014 04:22 PM (UlJ3l) 167
@148. Allen, my son is 16 and starting the college process. When he leaves I will give him 2 pieces of advice.
1. Date townies off campus. 2. Failing that, hookers. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at December 05, 2014 04:22 PM (OWjjx) 168
152 The hateful comments about me on this blog will do you no good because I will be a moderator of at least two Republican debates. So there!
Posted by: Candy Crowley _________________________ Hmmmm. We could have sworn we booked her for at least five debates. Posted by: Republican National Committee at December 05, 2014 04:22 PM (UlJ3l) 169
"If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her."
Oh hell. Can we get a tweet from that chick who wants a woman-run dictatorship where there's no PIV, and about 80% of men die off, and the remaining male concentration camp inmates have a life expectancy of 40 compared to the natural 120 for women? Cause that's about the only feminist I can think of who's more bat-guano insane than Melissa McEwan, and why settle for less? Posted by: JPS at December 05, 2014 04:22 PM (/n2Hn) 170
As of early 2014, the Campus Rape Scare is now an official White House initiative. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Posted by: CJ at December 05, 2014 04:22 PM (9KqcB) 171
Those tweet faces say it all.
Posted by: dogfish at December 05, 2014 04:22 PM (1vYi0) 172
The story was so obviously implausible that anyone who took it at face value needs to think hard about generating a little more skepticism when being told something that on its face is hard to believe.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 05, 2014 04:23 PM (oKE6c) 173
What is truly unfortunate is the greater truth will be obscured over this relatively minor changing of irrelevant detail to protect the victim. We can all agree that the emergency rooms of every hospital in the country will be swamped with an ever-growing number of female rape and assault victims on Super Bowl Sunday.
Posted by: Sir Edmund Hillary Clinton at December 05, 2014 04:23 PM (zxQ4h) 174
154
Wait...isn't this how Al Sharpton rose to fame? With a fake rape story? Posted by: wheatie Partly, but it was also the details, like covering Tawana in dog feces and dressing her in a trash bag. You have to go the extra mile. Posted by: pep at December 05, 2014 04:23 PM (4nR9/) 175
I don't think Team Hairy Pits has accepted they can't bluff their way out of being _completely_fucking_wrong. They're just going to keep doubling down.
Posted by: 0302 at December 05, 2014 04:23 PM (yHHKL) 176
National Review just mentioned something of interest:
"This morning, pretty much the entire editorial staff of the New Republic resigned..." Heh. Not that anything will change. Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 05, 2014 04:23 PM (P5ZVp) 177
Is UVA going to continue to expend taxpayer funds reviewing all their policies - something they would not have done but for this RS article that turns out to be completely untrue?
I doubt it. Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:24 PM (gmeXX) 178
>>UVA brought unwanted attention to itself by acting so shamelessly
upon reading the article. I have no sympathy for UVA right now.<< Frankly, I think UVA acted responsibly given the potential seriousness. It would be somewhat contra intellectual to do otherwise. One certainly has to verify the facts, something very difficult and time consuming. But I don't see, given the reputational problems this was creating, their actions as anything but sagacious as the investigation was ongoing. They were under a pretty withering assault. Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2014 04:24 PM (GGCsk) 179
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 05, 2014 04:21 PM (xSCb6)
A: She can go get me a sammich. II: What? What "rape apologists?" THERE WAS NO RAPE. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed Derringer Bandit at December 05, 2014 04:24 PM (M1uf/) 180
Jen, which time? Norman or Nomad?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 05, 2014 04:17 PM (X8n03) That's the one! I don't know, my circuits are still overloaded... Posted by: Jen the original at December 05, 2014 04:24 PM (oOlEN) Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 05, 2014 04:24 PM (oKE6c) 182
I can't state this more emphatically: If Jackie's story is partially or
wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her. Wait, what? "If she lied, that doesn't validate wanting to make sure she wasn't lying?" Huh? In what world does that make sense? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed Derringer Bandit Mental illness. Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2014 04:24 PM (MNq6o) 183
These rape hoaxes aren't honest mistakes. They are tactics in the culture war.
The media work hand in glove with the campus hoaxers. Just like the EPA works with the eco-nazi lawsuits. They can't be shamed into behaving decently. This time the tactic failed, they'll try again next month or next year. Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 05, 2014 04:24 PM (ZPrif) Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2014 04:24 PM (qbJnm) 185
"This morning, pretty much the entire editorial staff of the New Republic resigned..."
How could they tell? No one showing up is pretty much, well... Posted by: anon a mouse at December 05, 2014 04:24 PM (/jpU8) 186
National Review just mentioned something of interest:
"This morning, pretty much the entire editorial staff of the New Republic resigned..." Gawker already owns it more or less, I think. Posted by: toby928(C) at December 05, 2014 04:25 PM (rwI+c) 187
We have the RIGHT to presume non-victim-class members guilty of whatever we say!
Posted by: Messrs Brown, Garner, Sharpton & McEwan at December 05, 2014 04:25 PM (HEo6y) 188
Did anyone say, yet, that Rolling Stones apologized?
Yes, they did. They said they were sorry. So we forgive and forget and move forward. Keep moving forward. They've apologized, everything is fine now. Let's just move on. Posted by: Smith, Agent N.M.I. at December 05, 2014 04:25 PM (yPNgM) 189
She doesn't remember which frat house. What does she remember that can be construed as "accurate?" I hate, hate, hate this if she is lying for whatever reasons. If so, she is destroying my gender. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 05, 2014 04:25 PM (IXrOn) 190
I saw People of the Wang open for Wang Chung at the Show Me Center.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 05, 2014 04:25 PM (ZKzrr) 191
People keep saying it's hard for victims of sexual assault to be heard, to speak up. It's not . It's called 911. It's a crime. Call the police. Not your school. Not a magazine. The police.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 05, 2014 04:25 PM (3B+O8) 192
Animal House new Rolling Stone owners.
Posted by: dogfish at December 05, 2014 04:25 PM (1vYi0) 193
If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her.
_______________________ Uh, yes, you stupid scrunt, it does. The main reason for disbelieving Jackie was the fact that her story didn't make sense. Who gets beaten and forcibly gang raped by seven men on top of broken glass for three straight hours without having serious injuries? How can a woman who claims she was gang raped in a "pitch black" room not only recognize the face of one of her rapists, but describe the specific expression on his face ("he looked like he was going to cry or puke")? What kind of man, after having arranged a 3-hour long beating and gang rape of his date (and then watching her flee, barefoot and bloody, into the night), seeks her out two weeks later to thank her for the good time he had with her? The story was utterly ludicrous. That is why people doubted it, and that is why they should have doubted it. Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 05, 2014 04:26 PM (2ruKl) 194
WaPo committed a random act of Journalism? What's wrong with them?
Posted by: Carol at December 05, 2014 04:26 PM (sj3Ax) 195
9 wrt Lena Dunham:
You're the next stop on the Justice Express tour... Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 05, 2014 04:02 PM (wtvvX) Let's assume she's telling the truth (which I do not believe, for the record)......I like to know why she gets a free pass on essentially protecting the identity of a "rapist" who, according to her, also physically harmed two other women *that she knows of.* Even the leftist trash that worships her ought to be taking her to task for that. Yet they aren't. Which makes me think that deep down they know she's full of shit, but NARRATIVE so nevermind. Posted by: tdpwells at December 05, 2014 04:26 PM (bwjxb) 196
So she's confused about what house gangraped her - what if it turns out to be a minority fraternity? Hollaback to the infinitith power.
Posted by: 0302 at December 05, 2014 04:26 PM (yHHKL) 197
We can all agree that the emergency rooms of every hospital in the country will be swamped with an ever-growing number of female rape and assault victims on Super Bowl Sunday.
Posted by: Sir Edmund Hillary Clinton And whenever country music is played. Posted by: Blue Hen at December 05, 2014 04:26 PM (Spluw) 198
Maybe I can get a papier-mache "Shocked Face" mask on Amazon. I imagine I'll be needing it, these next two years.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 05, 2014 04:26 PM (OCcU9) 199
"Interesting how rape apologists think that if they can "discredit" one rape story, that means no other rape stories can be true, either."
--- How bout a little fire scarecrow. Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:26 PM (NaV4z) 200
The tactic probably hasn't even really failed at UVA.
I bet UVA spends more money next year on sexual assault awareness training - more hires, more consultants, more mandatory training for evil frat boys. Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 05, 2014 04:26 PM (ZPrif) 201
"The story was so obviously implausible that anyone who took it at face value needs to think hard about generating a little more skepticism when being told something that on its face is hard to believe. "
Well, to be perfectly honest there were two correct points in the original item 1) there is a UVA 2) there are fraternities everything else, though, was a bit - shall we say - questionable? Posted by: anon a mouse at December 05, 2014 04:26 PM (/jpU8) 202
"Can we get a tweet from that chick who wants a woman-run dictatorship
where there's no PIV, and about 80% of men die off, and the remaining male concentration camp inmates have a life expectancy of 40 compared to the natural 120 for women?" Don't forget their new biology of just mixing different eggs together to make new babies. And these harpies undoubtedly think that women are the more caring lot. Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 05, 2014 04:26 PM (xSCb6) 203
Jezus, for her to believe that there can only be one side of a story just reinforces my belief in hookers. At the end of the night the hooker will take your money and say goodbye, scrunts like 'Jackie' come after you with the power of the State, and probably for just looking in her general direction.
Posted by: Gmac- who is tired of all this at December 05, 2014 04:27 PM (baiNQ) 204
Frankly, I think UVA acted responsibly given the potential seriousness.
By shutting down ALL of the frats? Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2014 04:27 PM (qbJnm) 205
Uhh, word of advice...
Posted by: Nifong at December 05, 2014 04:27 PM (1vYi0) 206
The story was utterly ludicrous. That is why people doubted it, and that is why they should have doubted it.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 05, 2014 04:26 PM (2ruKl) Don't try to confuse us with facts Posted by: MikeH at December 05, 2014 04:27 PM (84oau) Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 05, 2014 04:27 PM (/4AZU) 208
I think she's just saying the reasons that she's aware of were not valid [to her] despite the veracity or lack thereof etc etc
Which implies there can be valid reasons to be suspicious of a given rape story, of which we can see a great many on display within the Left/Feminist community. For example: If the perpetrator is muslim - Not Rape. If the perpetrator is a President - Not Rape. If the perpetrator is a Hollywood director or mogul - Not Rape. Posted by: Bigby's Grazzy Rookers at December 05, 2014 04:27 PM (3ZtZW) 209
When do we get the name and picture of the hoax survivor?
Posted by: NCKate at December 05, 2014 04:27 PM (vFAAV) 210
So she's confused about what house gangraped her - what if it turns out to be a minority fraternity? Hollaback to the infinitith power.
Posted by: 0302 at December 05, 2014 04:26 PM (yHHKL) What if it was McEwan or Kohn's sorority house? Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 05, 2014 04:28 PM (IXrOn) 211
"This morning, pretty much the entire editorial staff of the New Republic resigned..."
As I said in an earlier thread..... Dear TNR Staff: How does it feel to have a new manager come in and fundamentally change your world against your wishes because "I won?" Sucks, huh? Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2014 04:28 PM (ABcz/) 212
I like the use of the word "untrue" instead of false or lie to help her
avoid reality. It's got the 1984 feel to it. She will make a great Outer Party member. Posted by: George Orwell at December 05, 2014 04:28 PM (1BQGO) 213
This case is actually a nice illustration of how lunatic the SJWs and modern feminists are. Those end quotes frame it perfectly.
Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 04:28 PM (MMC8r) 214
So is The Washington Post the new Fox News?
This is the second or third time they've done journalism this year. Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2014 04:28 PM (MNq6o) 215
Y'know, when half the population can be blithely slandered and maligned by the other half with no negative repercussions...I can't see that leading anyplace good. At. All.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 05, 2014 04:28 PM (DT3rQ) 216
Melissa McEwan, Mensa chapter president. Posted by: Tom at December 05, 2014 04:28 PM (wBro8) 217
"I bet UVA spends more money next year on sexual assault awareness training - more hires, more consultants, more mandatory training for evil frat boys."
That's a given... Posted by: anon a mouse at December 05, 2014 04:28 PM (/jpU8) 218
"Hmmmm. We could have sworn we booked [Crowley] for at least five debates."
We did, but then we landed this Melissa McEwan creature. Posted by: Republican National Committee at December 05, 2014 04:28 PM (IOt29) 219
I liked this one from Amanda Marcotte, or How Leftist Harridans Argue in a nutshell:
"Interesting how rape apologists think that if they can "discredit" one rape story, that means no other rape stories can be true, either." Love the logic. Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 05, 2014 04:28 PM (oKE6c) 220
The Salem witch trials is a good analogy.
Btw in the tv series Salem, the twist they did is that suppose there were actual witches in Salem, but they were actually instigating the witch trials to get people to hang innocents as a means of gaining more power. That also fits here, since it's the leftists who exploit girls, brainwashing them into participating in the slutty hook-up scene while at the same time telling them to hate guys. Posted by: @votermom at December 05, 2014 04:28 PM (cbfNE) 221
Just for the record Amanda it's two nationally reported rape accusations that have been discredited though I know you still think in your heart that the Duke boys raped someone, somewhere.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (014lE) 222
Candy is out? Candy is out?
Posted by: dantesed at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (88xKn) 223
But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
Posted by: Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman, Delta House at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (RFeQD) 224
Frankly, I think UVA acted responsibly given the potential seriousness. It would be somewhat contra intellectual to do otherwise.
One certainly has to verify the facts, something very difficult and time consuming. But I don't see, given the reputational problems this was creating, their actions as anything but sagacious as the investigation was ongoing. They were under a pretty withering assault. ----- No sale. Rather than simply state this is a very serious story and they are going to get to the bottom of it, rather than immediately bring in the UVA police department, rather than investigating the accusation, rather than declare that they will seek to bring the perpetrators to justice under the law, the UVA administration's first and only response was to suspend all fraternities and to denigrate them. It is no secret that if the administration had their way, fraternities would be a thing of the past. The RS store presented an opportunity for them to do that. Their first instinct was not to do everything in their power to take these monsters off the street, it was to denigrate fraternities. No they did not act responsibly. Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (gmeXX) 225
Ace and my fellow incorrigible boys and girls, I'm pretty sure you've all watched The Wire. But did you ever the piece by one the shows head honchos about the final season? It's pretty damn good and very relevant today. http://davidsimon.com/the-wires-final-season-and-the-story-everyone-missed/ Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (ZEeN4) 226
If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her.
"There is no Truth, we all have our own individual truths...but if your truth is not Jackie's truth, you're a cheerleader for rape." Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (ZKzrr) 227
Body cams for frat boys.
Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (MMC8r) 228
Progressive women = mentally ill
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (FsuaD) 229
There is rape and morning after regret. Of the latter, even I've had a few.
But the regrets for me are simply, "Dear God, how drunk was I?". They were definitely not stories I want to peddle. Many college students have done this, but when a woman turns her "regret" into an accusation, it takes on a different connotation. Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (GGCsk) 230
I hate, hate, hate this if she is lying for whatever reasons. If so, she is destroying my gender.
She's not destroying "your gender," at least, not in any way I can see. Mostly she's destroying the "Rape Culture!!!!11!1!!Eleventy!" nonsense. And I'm actually glad for that. That said, it doesn't much matter if she's lying or delusional. At the current moment, it looks like exactly 0 of her facts add up, meaning she did a lot of damage to UVA and the fraternity in question for no reason. Delusion might be an excuse for doing said damage, but the damage has been done. And a lot of people are only going to have heard the accusations, and aren't going to hear (or believe) the denials and retractions. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed Derringer Bandit at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (M1uf/) 231
"He had to lie...otherwise, he wouldn't have gotten elected." ~ Dee Dee Myers, referring to Bill Clinton.
This too, is the story of the Democrat Party. Posted by: wheatie at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (kWxsq) 232
Oh, and the US birth rate? Lowest since records kept.
Tell me with a straight face that's a coincidence. Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (DT3rQ) 233
163 Keep in mind that UVA didn't just shut down Phi Psi; they shut down every fraternity on campus. This fits in with the previously mentioned agenda of the RS "journalist," who had stated she was specifically looking for a campus that did not have a strong feminist presence. In their campus war on men, nothing screams "Patricarchy!" to feminists like Fraternity Row.
Posted by: Country Singer at December 05, 2014 04:22 PM (nL0sw) All men are rapists Fraternities are entirely comprised of men Ergo, fraternities are entirely comprised of rapists Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (2Ojst) 234
Has anyone asked Amanda Marcotte WTF a "rape apologist" is?
Is there really someone out there who thinks rape is OK? Other than all those people who make prison rape jokes - because apparently that kind of rape is funny. Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (ABcz/) 235
This whole thing makes me glad I'm married and thus don't have to deal with the bullshit of modern dating. I'm pretty sure my husband "raped" me a few times by the new definition of "completely sober sex with affirmative consent with every item of clothing removed."
Posted by: Lauren at December 05, 2014 04:30 PM (BPMYx) 236
Something happened in that house!
Posted by: Nancy Grace at December 05, 2014 04:30 PM (WguYY) 237
OT: Just in case you aren't all vomited out this week yet, casting is now underway for actors to celebrate on celluloid the torrid TFG - Moochelle courtship of the late 1980's.
Reggie Love hardest hit... along with my keyboard. Posted by: Jaws at December 05, 2014 04:30 PM (WKNX4) 238
OT: Just in case you aren't all vomited out this week yet, casting is now underway for actors to celebrate on celluloid the torrid TFG - Moochelle courtship of the late 1980's.
Reggie Love hardest hit... along with my keyboard. Posted by: Jaws at December 05, 2014 04:30 PM (WKNX4) 239
214 So is The Washington Post the new Fox News?
This is the second or third time they've done journalism this year. Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2014 04:28 PM (MNq6o) 10-to-1 someone on their editorial board went to UVA Posted by: MikeH at December 05, 2014 04:30 PM (84oau) 240
I bet UVA spends more money next year on sexual
assault awareness training - more hires, more consultants, more mandatory training for evil frat boys. Posted by: Costanza Defense And more money for women's creative writing development. Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2014 04:30 PM (MNq6o) 241
I can't state this more emphatically: If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her.
Feminists sound so much like arguing with an unreasonable woman, don't they? Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 04:30 PM (MMC8r) 242
Yet they aren't. Which makes me think that deep down they know she's full of shit, but NARRATIVE so nevermind.
Posted by: tdpwells at December 05, 2014 04:26 PM (bwjxb) ---- I read somewhere on the interwebs in the last couple of days a story that somebody is looking for Lena's "Barry"...the "resident Republican"... that worked "in the library".... and wore "purple cowboy boots"...with a "Barry White deep voice". Shouldnt be hard to find. They interviewed tons of student and faculty..... bottom line is "Barry" doesnt exist. I wish I could find the link... Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:30 PM (NaV4z) 243
Frankly, I think UVA acted responsibly given the potential seriousness. It would be somewhat contra intellectual to do otherwise.One certainly has to verify the facts, something very difficult and time consuming. But I don't see, given the reputational problems this was creating, their actions as anything but sagacious as the investigation was ongoing. They were under a pretty withering assault.
Posted by: Marcus T is this sarcasm? They blamed and punished every fraternity, for an act that supposedly occurred two years before. If she claimed that a black fraternity did this, or a black student, would the idiot running UVa be right to blame and punish the black frats or every black male on campus? Posted by: Blue Hen at December 05, 2014 04:30 PM (Spluw) 244
Someone who tweets please reply to these bints whether they believe Juanita Broderick and if not why not?
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 05, 2014 04:30 PM (014lE) 245
What is going to hurt UVA more than anything is the pissed off alumni. Greek system alumni by far donate more to their alma maters than independents.
Posted by: Country Singer (ΦKT '91) at December 05, 2014 04:31 PM (nL0sw) Posted by: Billy Jeff at December 05, 2014 04:31 PM (FsuaD) 247
224,
Nailed it. It's time for Prezzy Sullivan to go, and take most of the admin. staff with her. Posted by: anon a mouse at December 05, 2014 04:31 PM (/jpU8) 248
Other than all those people who make prison rape jokes - because apparently that kind of rape is funny.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (ABcz/) Because it's funny when men get raped. Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2014 04:31 PM (2Ojst) 249
232 Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (DT3rQ)
It's NOT a coincidence... our nation is so happy with our "transformed society" we'd rather die out than continue it... Fuck the left b/c they fucked my nation over. Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 05, 2014 04:31 PM (/4AZU) 250
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When do we get the name and picture of the hoax survivor? Posted by: NCKate at December 05, 2014 04:27 PM (vFAAV) When she is sued by the frat. Posted by: Nancy Grace at December 05, 2014 04:31 PM (WguYY) 251
And more money for women's creative writing development. Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2014 04:30 PM (MNq6o Which just goes to show you that there is money in womens studies. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 05, 2014 04:31 PM (2Aj5D) 252
It's times like this that we turn to Iowahawk:"If I understand college administrators correctly, colleges are hotbeds of racism and rape that everyone should be able to attend." Posted by: CJ at December 05, 2014 04:31 PM (9KqcB) 253
Just for the record Amanda it's two nationally reported rape accusations that have been discredited though I know you still think in your heart that the Duke boys raped someone, somewhere.
*Something* happened that night. Posted by: Nancy Grace at December 05, 2014 04:32 PM (rwI+c) 254
"Is there really someone out there who thinks rape is OK?"
Rape apologists= anyone who doesn't think that a woman is raped every time she has sex with a man. It's seriously getting hard to distinguish the crazy anit-PIV feminists from the mainstream ones. Posted by: Lauren at December 05, 2014 04:32 PM (BPMYx) 255
"The thought of the Rolling Stone being sued into vapor and an empty building, makes me tingly down there."
And that on the heels of _The New Republic_ disintegrating. The TNR thing really seems to have freaked the blazes out of a bunch of elite lefty journalistas. They're hearing the creak and rumble of the tumbrel wheels now. Why, if _Leon Wieseltier_ can be tossed aside like a used shop rag by some arrogant Facebook arriviste, where does it end? Madness! Dogs and cats living together! Posted by: torquewrench at December 05, 2014 04:32 PM (noWW6) 256
Body cams for frat boys.
---- Strikes me as a bad idea. I'm glad I went to school before cell phone cameras. Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:32 PM (gmeXX) 257
Where was this support when I needed it?
Posted by: Paula Jones at December 05, 2014 04:32 PM (014lE) Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 05, 2014 04:32 PM (ZKzrr) 259
@26 The Jackhole
I know a guy who got 3 years after she decided it wasn't consensual. She decided that 2 weeks after the fact when her boyfriend questioned her over some rumors. I know of others who didn't do time,but were dragged through the courts and had their lives ruined. Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 05, 2014 04:32 PM (P5ZVp) 260
Rhetorical Question: Wouldn't gang-banging (consensual or not) a lady with 6 of your bros present make you gay? Six other erect penises in the same room at the same time seems gay. Even if you take turns, what if you're guy #7? You can probably still smell your bros wafting in the air. Ugh.
Posted by: Naes at December 05, 2014 04:33 PM (YhayY) 261
If she lied, it doesn't matter, she should still be believed.
If Bill Clinton sexually assaults women, it doesn't matter, because he's so good for women. Even though she died, Mary Jo Kopechne would support Ted Kennedy. There's no honesty here. It's any means to an end. Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 04:33 PM (MMC8r) 262
We raped no women on or near campus.
Posted by: Sigma Omicron Rho at December 05, 2014 04:33 PM (z27Ny) Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 05, 2014 04:33 PM (R5UOB) 264
bing Goody Hauptman just leads here so I has a perplexed.
Posted by: DaveA at December 05, 2014 04:33 PM (DL2i+) 265
No one can prove you raped them if you drown them first.
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at December 05, 2014 04:33 PM (014lE) 266
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OT: Just in case you aren't all vomited out this week yet, casting is now underway for actors to celebrate on celluloid the torrid TFG - Moochelle courtship of the late 1980's. Yes. And they've cast a hot, young black actress to play Young Mooch. Seriously. Now they're looking to cast Young Barry. I suggest Urkel. Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:33 PM (FsuaD) 267
Boy ole Melissa and Sally are a couple of keepers, what?
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 05, 2014 04:33 PM (BZAd3) 268
Most people don't know that mass-rape allegations erupted at a UC Berkeley frat too a couple months ago, but for some reason the story didn't go viral as the UVA story did.
But - just as at UVA -- the story is self-evidently bogus. I was planning to make a big post about this but there are login problems with the PJM system at the moment, so the world will remain unenlightened as to my scoop. Except you guys. Posted by: zombie at December 05, 2014 04:33 PM (K4YiS) 269
>>"I bet UVA spends more money next year on sexual assault awareness
training - more hires, more consultants, more mandatory training for evil frat boys." Anyone know if UVA has a Campus Sex Week? Seems to be a fine line between a Sex Positive culture and Rape Culture. Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2014 04:33 PM (ABcz/) 270
our nation is so happy with our "transformed society" we'd rather die out than continue it...
I want to live just long enough to see the terror and horror on their faces as the barbarians they cleared the way for take their heads. Even if it means I'm next. At least I die with satisfaction. Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 05, 2014 04:33 PM (DT3rQ) 271
She's not destroying "your gender," at least, not in any way I can see. Mostly she's destroying the "Rape Culture!!!!11!1!!Eleventy!" nonsense. And I'm actually glad for that.
That said, it doesn't much matter if she's lying or delusional. At the current moment, it looks like exactly 0 of her facts add up, meaning she did a lot of damage to UVA and the fraternity in question for no reason. Delusion might be an excuse for doing said damage, but the damage has been done. And a lot of people are only going to have heard the accusations, and aren't going to hear (or believe) the denials and retractions. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) one-and-a-half-armed Derringer Bandit at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (M1uf/) Did you have a chance to read what I linked earlier today? THE SEXODUS, PART 1: THE MEN GIVING UP ON WOMEN AND CHECKING OUT OF SOCIETY over at breitbart London It's more than just the rape culture being destroyed. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 05, 2014 04:34 PM (IXrOn) Posted by: Bill Cosby at December 05, 2014 04:34 PM (NaV4z) 273
Nailed it. It's time for Prezzy Sullivan to go, and take most of the admin. staff with her.
---- I never understood why they let her survive in the first place. They were right the first time. Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:34 PM (gmeXX) 274
Now they're looking to cast Young Barry. I suggest Urkel.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:33 PM (FsuaD) Emmanuel Lewis. Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2014 04:34 PM (2Ojst) 275
Holy Crap, I am surprise that Melissa McEwan person can even breathe and talk t the same time. Her illogic is astronomical. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2014 04:34 PM (NtzGn) 276
265 Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at December 05, 2014 04:33 PM (014lE)
Reporter: Senator Kennedy did you have sex with a chicken? ZTK-I can uh wholeheartedly say I did not have sex with THAT chicken.... that one over there however... //Ka Ka Kennedy Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 05, 2014 04:34 PM (/4AZU) 277
I do hope this is the final nail in The Rolling Stone's coffin and that they cant even give their magazine away for free anymore (which is what they've been doing for years to keep up subscriber numbers in order to keep advertisers). They do deserve that fate after glamorizing the Boston bomber sicko. Karma...how does it work.
Posted by: Twostellas at December 05, 2014 04:34 PM (sF0CB) 278
at this point I don't even believe "Jackie" has a vagina. she's probably some middle aged fat dude.
Posted by: X at December 05, 2014 04:35 PM (KHo8t) 279
222 Candy is out? Candy is out?
Posted by: dantesed at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM (88xKn) One too many years of blowing the top off of the broken anchor chair budget. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 05, 2014 04:35 PM (BZAd3) 280
Is there really someone out there who thinks rape is OK? Posted by: Lizzy *raises paw* Posted by: Lena Dunham + Feminists + "I need feminism because" Men Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 05, 2014 04:35 PM (kdS6q) 281
People keep saying it's hard for victims of sexual assault to be heard, to speak up. It's not . It's called 911. It's a crime. Call the police. Not your school. Not a magazine. The police.
Repeated for emphasis. In my neck of the woods we endured about an entire decade of priest abuse allegations. Some true, some not. The thing I kept saying, over and over, is why did not someone/anyone call the police? Anyway fast forward to internal changes upon years long review? Call the police. Step one. Posted by: EC Moron at December 05, 2014 04:35 PM (zxQ4h) 282
When this story first hit the interwebz it just smelled fishy.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 05, 2014 04:35 PM (2Aj5D) 283
This was over really quick. We didnt even get the Shep Smith and Geraldo reports outside the frat house screaming "They're raping people in there!!!"
I wonder why the WaPo jumped into this at all and spent seemingly alot of of time and resources discrediting the RS story. Posted by: L, elle at December 05, 2014 04:35 PM (y4bHB) 284
Drunk, train, remorse + reporter = epic nonsense.
Posted by: DaveA at December 05, 2014 04:35 PM (DL2i+) 285
Case in point on my statement about pissed off alumni; back in September, Clemson suspended all fraternities after a pledge died during a group run. Not the fraternity the pledge belonged to, but all fraternities. Under pressure from alumni and parents, the administrator responsible was sacked yesterday.
Posted by: Country Singer (ΦKT '91) at December 05, 2014 04:36 PM (nL0sw) 286
Is there really someone out there who thinks rape is OK?
----- About a gazillion Hollywood Castratti that think Roman Polanski got a bum rap. Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:36 PM (NaV4z) 287
19 If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her.
Do they even understand English? Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2014 04:04 PM (qbJnm) *********** Jezzuz gawd that reads like an illogic puzzle with a dash of cra-cray. Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at December 05, 2014 04:36 PM (RJMhd) Posted by: TangoNine at December 05, 2014 04:36 PM (x3YFz) Posted by: Bigby's Grazzy Rookers at December 05, 2014 04:36 PM (3ZtZW) 290
If it is true that Jackie asked RS not to publish her story, then my scorn for this whole debacle lies with RS and the UVA administration. Jackie - so far - has never really identified herself. She may have started it, but she has not publicly come forward. And she asked RS not to publish her story (again if true).
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:36 PM (gmeXX) 291
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This was over really quick. We didnt even get the Shep Smith and Geraldo reports outside the frat house screaming "They're raping people in there!!!" Yeah. *sigh* Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:37 PM (FsuaD) 292
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The tactic probably hasn't even really failed at UVA. Although UVA will pretend they were victims of this hoax, the universities are part of the fraud and work with the rape culture activists. They should have been able to debunk this story a day after it was printed. It took conservative bloggers/media without direct access to all the inside information about 3 days to do the job UVA should have been doing on it's own. They are complicit in the fraud and should be named in any lawsuits. Posted by: George Orwell at December 05, 2014 04:37 PM (1BQGO) 293
Sorry to go back to Lena Dunham, but really the more I think about her story, the more flabbergasted I am that she wrote it.She created the most insane, easily verifiable character ever put to paper, and just expected to get away with it.
That's pathological. Posted by: Lauren at December 05, 2014 04:37 PM (BPMYx) 294
283 This was over really quick. We didnt even get the Shep Smith and Geraldo reports outside the frat house screaming "They're raping people in there!!!"
I wonder why the WaPo jumped into this at all and spent seemingly alot of of time and resources discrediting the RS story. Posted by: L, elle at December 05, 2014 04:35 PM (y4bHB) ************ The only thing I want to know from Shep is where he gets his waterproof eyeliner. Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at December 05, 2014 04:37 PM (RJMhd) 295
to clarify: by "topic no one cares about" I didn't mean rape, just this particular one.
Posted by: TangoNine at December 05, 2014 04:37 PM (x3YFz) 296
Someone who tweets please reply to these bints whether they believe Juanita Broderick and if not why not?
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 05, 2014 04:30 PM (014lE) I doubt any of these idiots know who Juanita Broderick is. It's doubtful they even know Bill Clinton was president. They haven't taken any history courses, just "women are oppressed and really want to be lesbian" courses. Posted by: Jen the original at December 05, 2014 04:37 PM (oOlEN) 297
Do. Not. Boink. Teh. Crazzee. It cannot be repeated enough.
Posted by: dogfish at December 05, 2014 04:37 PM (1vYi0) 298
R/S should have held out.
We never even had to apologize for destroying Richard Jewell's life. We just stonewalled until he died. Pretty cool, eh? Posted by: Atlanta Constitution at December 05, 2014 04:37 PM (l1zOH) 299
Posted by: Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman, Delta House at December 05, 2014 04:29 PM
That was Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman. He was damned glad to meet you. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 05, 2014 04:37 PM (knoK7) 300
speaking of checking out of society... I watched the Nick Cage version of Left Behind last week. It was okay; not bad at all. But a funny thing occurred to me during the movie. The rapture was the original and ultimate going Galt! Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 05, 2014 04:38 PM (ZEeN4) 301
at this point I don't even believe "Jackie" has a vagina.
She's a composite. Seriously, I'm starting to suspect literally no part of this story is true. Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 05, 2014 04:38 PM (DT3rQ) 302
You got your epistemology in my ideology. No, you got your ideology in my epistemology.
Posted by: Reeses to pieces at December 05, 2014 04:38 PM (W5DcG) 303
Soviets and Maoists would have taken pointers from these nincompoops.
Truth, honesty, and fairness are obviously radical right-wing notions. Posted by: fb at December 05, 2014 04:38 PM (JVEmw) 304
They interviewed tons of student and faculty..... bottom line is "Barry" doesnt exist. I wish I could find the link...
_____________________ It's on Breitbart's site. Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 05, 2014 04:38 PM (2ruKl) 305
Common factor in
the Salem Witch Trials and UVA Rape Hoax? Hysterical women. Oh, i'm sorry that's not true. One had hysterical women. The other hystyrycyl wymyn. Rape is a serious crime which leftist nut jobs are trivializing for political ends. Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2014 04:38 PM (0cMkb) 306
"Now they're looking to cast Young Barry. I suggest Urkel."
You wanted Urkel. You'll settle for Chris Tucker. You'll get Taye Diggs... cuz TFG is all dreamy like that. Posted by: Jaws at December 05, 2014 04:38 PM (WKNX4) 307
Black guy calls into Opie/Norton show, epic rant.
--- Black Radio Caller Explodes on 'White, Liberal Hippie Kids' Protesting Police Killings: 'That's Not What Happened, You Idiots!' http://tinyurl.com/qgbarcw Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 05, 2014 04:39 PM (ZPrif) 308
ix other erect penises in the same room at the same time seems gay.
Touching dicks is a Frat secret handshake. Posted by: toby928(C) at December 05, 2014 04:39 PM (rwI+c) 309
>>I wonder why the WaPo jumped into this at all and spent seemingly alot of of time and resources discrediting the RS story.
Someone here joked that there must be a lot of UVA graduates who work at the VA-based Washington Post. Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2014 04:39 PM (ABcz/) 310
P in the V goes in the EBDB!
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 05, 2014 04:39 PM (2cS/G) 311
I'm glad I went to school before cell phone cameras.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:32 PM (gmeXX) Yeah, no shit.... Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Suntanning in Bizzaro World at December 05, 2014 04:39 PM (UtwNa) 312
to clarify: by "topic no one cares about" I didn't mean rape, just this particular one.
Even for the potential comic value of watching Rolling Stone get sued into oblivion? Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 05, 2014 04:39 PM (DT3rQ) 313
It's more than just the rape culture being destroyed.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 05, 2014 04:34 PM (IXrOn) Helen Smith has written about this in Men on Strike. Aside from false rape allegations, men have to contend with paternity fraud, pregnancy traps (through deceit), financial rape through the divorce courts, and parental alienation, to name a few. When faced with all this shit, why would men even bother? Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2014 04:39 PM (2Ojst) 314
Seriously, I'm starting to suspect literally no part of this story is true.
We did have some independent verification that there is a school called the University of Virginia. Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 05, 2014 04:39 PM (ZKzrr) 315
Heya TangoNine
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 05, 2014 04:39 PM (2Aj5D) 316
Did I ever tell you about the time Corey and I were staying overnight at Neverland Ranch and I got raped by a Republican with a Tom Selleck mustache?
Posted by: Corey Feldman has been out of your thoughts for too long at December 05, 2014 04:39 PM (vmAFq) 317
164 they are frats full of penis-people!
I think you mean People of the Wang. Posted by: pep at December 05, 2014 04:22 PM (4nR9/) Pee pee people. Posted by: Killerdog at December 05, 2014 04:39 PM (7KwMr) 318
If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her.
*shakes head* Posted by: Franz Kafka at December 05, 2014 04:39 PM (MMC8r) 319
And that on the heels of _The New Republic_ disintegrating.
The TNR thing really seems to have freaked the blazes out of a bunch of elite lefty journalistas. They're hearing the creak and rumble of the tumbrel wheels now. Why, if _Leon Wieseltier_ can be tossed aside like a used shop rag by some arrogant Facebook arriviste, where does it end? Madness! Dogs and cats living together! Posted by: torquewrench at December 05, 2014 04:32 PM (noWW6) Is it wrong to have a schadenboner that's going to last a lot more than four hours? Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 05, 2014 04:39 PM (oKE6c) 320
I can't state this more emphatically: If Three Boobs Girl's third boob is partially or wholly fake, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving in her third boob.
Posted by: Melissa McEwan at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (BUEiM) 321
"But didn't she ask that it not be printed? I'm not a
journalist. If a source burns you, from what I gather you are then free to report the source. But what if a source burns you after said source asks you not to use her story, but you do anyway? Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:18 PM (gmeXX)" RS isn't the only publication that knows her name, nor would it likely be very hard for one that doesn't know it to learn it. That being said, I'd say her claim to anonymity ended the moment she made the choice to fucking lie about being gang raped by members of Psi Phi, or what ever the frat is. Posted by: holygoat at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (elG7j) 322
>>>Do. Not. Boink. Teh. Crazzee. It cannot be repeated enough.
To translate into plain english: Drunk girl pulling a train == Teh Crazzee Posted by: Bigby's Grazzy Rookers at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (3ZtZW) 323
About a gazillion Hollywood Castratti that think Roman Polanski got a bum rap.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:36 PM It wasn't me who got the 'bum rap' IYKWIM.... Posted by: Roman Polanski at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (knoK7) 324
Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2014 04:19 PM (2Ojst)
Thanks for the linkys. Except for the radfem idiot parts, they were schadenfreudelicious. As was the popcorn. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (0HooB) 325
"If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her."
Let's run that through the rad-fem to English translator and see what we get. "It COULD have happened and Gaia Damn It, that's close enough for me!" Posted by: JB1000 at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (16OL0) 326
Parents are paying big bucks for this shit and students are harrowing big bucks for this shit.
It can't end too soon. Posted by: eman at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (mR7Es) 327
I wonder why the WaPo jumped into this at all and spent seemingly alot of of time and resources discrediting the RS story.
-------------------------- Desperately trying to recover some semblance of journalistic integrity? Nah.. Posted by: Atlanta Constitution at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (l1zOH) 328
UVA will hire not less than 5 additional rape counselors and 2 new Feminist Studies profs.
Posted by: toby928(C) predicts at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (rwI+c) 329
so the left wants us to care about vaginas, but refuses to acknowledge they have vaginas, writes plays about vaginas; but no one can speak of the vagina.
Do I have it correct yet? Posted by: TangoNine at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (x3YFz) 330
The only thing missing from this story is Jackie getting pregnant and Rethugs block her entrance to the abortion clinic. Then she takes a coat hanger to herself...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (FsuaD) 331
Seriously, I'm starting to suspect literally no part of this story is true.
We did have some independent verification that there is a school called the University of Virginia. ---- I can vouch that there is a fraternity called Phi Psi. Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (gmeXX) Posted by: Oschisms at December 05, 2014 04:41 PM (uqV2n) 333
272 Is there really someone out there who thinks rape is OK?
---- My puddin popped.... Posted by: Bill Cosby at December 05, 2014 04:34 PM (NaV4z) ************* Bill suffers from necrophilia with a fear of commitment. Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at December 05, 2014 04:41 PM (RJMhd) 334
Hey - Candy Crowley to Leave CNN - Merry Fucking Christmas morons.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 05, 2014 04:41 PM (oDCMR) 335
UVA will hire not less than 5 additional rape counselors and 2 new Feminist Studies profs.
-- Yep, and pay Sally Kohn $10k to come give a Rape Awareness talk. Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 05, 2014 04:41 PM (ZPrif) 336
"If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her."
-------------- It's the False but Factual narrative, aka, The Dan Rather Gambit. Posted by: Atlanta Constitution at December 05, 2014 04:41 PM (l1zOH) 337
"an offense so heinous that innocence isn't even a defense" - Dershowitz
Posted by: Aunt Ralph at December 05, 2014 04:41 PM (6VG2o) 338
Posted by: Roman Polanski at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (knoK7)
---- knock 7 You Hash for this thread is knock7???? Thats..... awesomely ironic. Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:41 PM (NaV4z) 339
I was raped on a bed of flaming hot coals lit only by flickering videos of Iraq war porn by George Bush and Dick Cheney. They sodomized me with a chemical weapon warhead (which does not exist) while cackling gleefully.
RS, call me. Posted by: Floofie at December 05, 2014 04:42 PM (1Rgee) 340
"Seriously, I'm starting to suspect literally no part of this story is true."
Now now. We've already established that there actually is a UVa that, up until recently, did actually have fraternities. Baby steps here. Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 05, 2014 04:42 PM (xSCb6) 341
290 If it is true that Jackie asked RS not to publish her story, then my scorn for this whole debacle lies with RS and the UVA administration. Jackie - so far - has never really identified herself. She may have started it, but she has not publicly come forward. And she asked RS not to publish her story (again if true).
Posted by: SH Fawn F*cking Liebowitz Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 05, 2014 04:42 PM (2Aj5D) 342
RS isn't the only publication that knows her name, nor would it likely be very hard for one that doesn't know it to learn it. That being said, I'd say her claim to anonymity ended the moment she made the choice to fucking lie about being gang raped by members of Psi Phi, or what ever the frat is.
----- That may be true, but she is really immaterial at this point - to me. I don't really care at this point, unless she continues in some form or fashion. I was just asking from a journalistic ethics (oxymoron) standpoint. Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:42 PM (gmeXX) 343
I don't know frats, so I could be wrong, but an "initiation" involving any form of rape sounds like something MS-13 would do, not a college fraternity. Any such group would have been banned and the members prosecuted and jailed. The story is bullshit.
Posted by: despair at December 05, 2014 04:42 PM (dcY7v) 344
Did anyone believe seven frat boys could continue raping a chick on top of broken glass for seven hours? Viagra be damned.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 05, 2014 04:42 PM (oDCMR) 345
I shot an 8 point white tail buck this morning. It was awesome. Dressed out at 110 pounds. I wish I could post a photo...
Posted by: Sambo at December 05, 2014 04:43 PM (NfmWw) 346
So this Jackie grrrll claims to have been raped by 7 guys and doesn't go to the hospital or file a police report?
Is that correct? Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 05, 2014 04:43 PM (0HooB) 347
"If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her.
" So much of the left is just legitimized mental illness. Making it almost impossible to have someone locked up in a loony bin was probably a bigger part of the left's agenda than we'll ever know. Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2014 04:43 PM (MNq6o) 348
so are we doing a shia laboef rape thread next ?
Posted by: alec at December 05, 2014 04:43 PM (DxQWB) 349
so the left wants us to care about vaginas, but refuses to acknowledge they have vaginas, writes plays about vaginas; but no one can speak of the vagina.
Do I have it correct yet? Posted by: TangoNine at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (x3YFz) ---- You left out "no looking at the vagina...... no touching the vagina..... and definatley .... no going INTO the vagina." Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:43 PM (NaV4z) 350
"an offense so heinous that innocence isn't even a defense" - Dershowitz
Posted by: Aunt Ralph at December 05, 2014 04:41 PM (6VG2o) Hah. Best conglomeration of words smashed together which are designed to make the author feel smart 'n stuff, yet are completely useless and nonsensical. Posted by: TangoNine at December 05, 2014 04:43 PM (x3YFz) Posted by: ScoggDog at December 05, 2014 04:44 PM (xWPj1) 352
Thanks so much, Rolling Stone, UVA, Sally Kohn, Mel McKewan, the rest of you leftist, fembot cranks, and "Jackie" (in that order) - you've just made it *that* much harder for some poor kid who actually *is* a victim of sexual violence on a college campus to come forward and be believed.
I'm willing to give "Jackie" a pass because, well, she's probably nuts. The rest of them can DIAF - starting with the Phi Kaps suing RS into a long-overdue bankruptcy and oblivion. Posted by: DocJ at December 05, 2014 04:44 PM (zrsn3) 353
Sounds to me like she is trying to cover for the gang bang video she made before her dad sees it on youporn. 5 rapists, 2 'watchers' (videographers)
Posted by: bunnyfluff the destroyer at December 05, 2014 04:44 PM (hpZ09) 354
Yep, and pay Sally Kohn $10k to come give a Rape Awareness talk.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 05, 2014 04:41 PM (ZPrif) No, what they'll do is make fraternity member attendance mandatory, and make the Intra-Fraternity Council pay the $10k. Posted by: Country Singer at December 05, 2014 04:44 PM (nL0sw) 355
"But didn't she ask that it not be printed? I'm not a
journalist. If a source burns you, from what I gather you are then free to report the source. But what if a source burns you after said source asks you not to use her story, but you do anyway? Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:18 PM (gmeXX)" According to WaPo, she says now she asked that it not be printed. Uh huh. Along with " I won't accept any money for my story". I don't believe she didn't want it printed anymore than I believe any of her made up story. Posted by: Jen the original at December 05, 2014 04:44 PM (oOlEN) Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 05, 2014 04:44 PM (FsuaD) 357
338 Posted by: Roman Polanski at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (knoK7)
---- knock 7 You Hash for this thread is knock7???? Thats..... awesomely ironic. Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:41 PM (NaV4z) ******** oh gawd...I'm going to go to hell for snickering at that like a hyena. Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at December 05, 2014 04:44 PM (RJMhd) 358
President Dean Wormer Sullivan to resend double secret probation.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 05, 2014 04:44 PM (oDCMR) 359
Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:30 PM (NaV4z)
I read it, I know Dunham is full of shit. But the point is, the cows on the left DO believe her, and since they do, why are they okay with her protecting the identity of this rapist now that the veracity of him even existing has been called into question? If they are such true believers, why is that cool with them? By their logic, she's willfully letting a rapist go free to rape other women. Posted by: tdpwells at December 05, 2014 04:44 PM (bwjxb) 360
You left out "no looking at the vagina...... no touching the vagina..... and definatley .... no going INTO the vagina." Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:43 PM (NaV4z) So what's left? Anal? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 05, 2014 04:44 PM (2Aj5D) 361
You left out "no looking at the vagina...... no touching the vagina..... and definatley .... no going INTO the vagina."
Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:43 PM (NaV4z) /furious arm motions So we reproduce asexually now? like worms? Posted by: TangoNine at December 05, 2014 04:45 PM (x3YFz) 362
Is it true that 'Jackie' is known for telling her story in the feminist circles?
It seems that someone needs to look at a suit against a school for creating hostile environments for letting groups like that operate. What other group is so decidedly hostile to the very existence of organizations like fraternities or even men in general? Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 04:45 PM (MMC8r) 363
"Someone here joked that there must be a lot of UVA graduates who work at the VA-based Washington Post"
It's not a joke. There are more UVA stickers/banners/ephemera scattered around DC than you can shake a stick at... Posted by: anon a mouse at December 05, 2014 04:45 PM (/jpU8) 364
348 so are we doing a shia laboef rape thread next ?
Posted by: alec at December 05, 2014 04:43 PM (DxQWB) ******* No--too much art, not enough "performance". Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at December 05, 2014 04:45 PM (RJMhd) 365
What does that McEwan woman's comment even *MEAN*?
Sorry, I just hate this sort of nonsense. Earlier this year, Stacy McCain talked about the details that make you realize a story might be true. Juanita Broadrick said that Clinton bit into her lip to force her compliance - and that was 1) surprising, but 2) made you realize it might be true. When I finally read the article, the details of the story screamed at me that the story, as related, was not credible. It frosts me that being someone who asks that a story conform to reality makes me a "rape apologist". Posted by: Dianna at December 05, 2014 04:45 PM (DV/Ik) 366
When faced with all this shit, why would men even bother?
Yeah, might have something to do with the cratering birth rate. If I had it do do again I would not marry, would not have children. I'd pay out of pocket to 'Dr. V' to shoot blanks forever. So the Posted by: EC Moron at December 05, 2014 04:46 PM (zxQ4h) 367
Did anyone believe seven frat boys could continue raping a chick on top of broken glass for seven hours? Viagra be damned.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 05, 2014 04:42 PM (oDCMR) 3 hours. Let's not exaggerate this believable story.... Posted by: Jen the original at December 05, 2014 04:46 PM (oOlEN) Posted by: HR needs beer at December 05, 2014 04:46 PM (ZKzrr) 369
I don't believe she didn't want it printed anymore than I believe any of her made up story.
---- That's a fair point. Posted by: SH at December 05, 2014 04:46 PM (gmeXX) 370
Thanks so much, Rolling Stone, UVA, Sally Kohn, Mel McKewan, the rest of you leftist, fembot cranks, and "Jackie" (in that order) - you've just made it *that* much harder for some poor kid who actually *is* a victim of sexual violence on a college campus to come forward and be believed.
______________ No, this won't change anything. The meme on the left is Jackie lied but she still told the truth. Filth like Kohn don't let something as trivial as the truth stand in the way of social justice, and neither do college administrators. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2014 04:46 PM (0LHZx) 371
I previously commented that I had thought something had happened , though not close to what she claimed, because she had specifically named the Fraternity. No where in my thoughts did I think someone would be that stupid to make shit up that could easily be disproved. Now I see that it was done twice. Dunham did the same thing. Never underestimate the narcissism of people who think you are to dumb to notice.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 05, 2014 04:46 PM (014lE) Posted by: TangoNine at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (x3YFz) 373
You left out "no looking at the vagina...... no touching the vagina..... and definatley .... no going INTO the vagina."
..unless you're charging your iPhone. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (0HooB) Posted by: Bob Dole at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (rwI+c) 375
Parents are paying big bucks for this shit and students are harrowing big bucks for this shit.
It can't end too soon. Posted by: eman at December 05, 2014 04:40 PM (mR7Es) We need to make college more affordable. More grants would be available if we cut military spending. Posted by: College professor at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (W5DcG) Posted by: HR needs beer at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (ZKzrr) 377
367 Did anyone believe seven frat boys could continue raping a chick on top of broken glass for seven hours? Viagra be damned.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 05, 2014 04:42 PM (oDCMR) _________ I know that my fantasy....pitch black room, broken glass, seven other naked dudes. Isn't that EVERY guy's fantasy? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (0LHZx) 378
"Did anyone believe seven frat boys could continue raping a chick on top of broken glass for seven hours?"
I did! That was nothing compared to the stories I didn't go with. They were even worse. Posted by: Jackie at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (1BQGO) 379
343 I don't know frats, so I could be wrong, but an "initiation" involving any form of rape sounds like something MS-13 would do, not a college fraternity. Any such group would have been banned and the members prosecuted and jailed. The story is bullshit.
Posted by: despair at December 05, 2014 04:42 PM (dcY7v) _____________________________ Yep, 8 or 9 college guys get together and plot to commit multiple major felonies (assault and battery, kidnapping, forcible rape, etc.) against a woman who can identify them to police (two by name), so that they can get sex on a campus filled with women who will voluntarily screw them if they simply ask. Makes perfect sense. Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (2ruKl) Posted by: alec at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (DxQWB) 381
i had to go to an epistimiologist once. --- i had a funny spot on my underballs.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (LWu6U) 382
"I know it was a purple cowboy boots wearing mustachioed Rethuglican because a year afterward my friend, Lena Dunham pointed out that's who did it."
Posted by: Jackie at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (BUEiM) 383
Which Law and Order episode did Jackie steal her story from?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 05, 2014 04:48 PM (Mxs5H) 384
I see a big jump in Mail Order Brides stock coming.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 05, 2014 04:48 PM (oDCMR) 385
You left out "no looking at the vagina...... no touching the vagina..... and definatley .... no going INTO the vagina."
Unless you call Krystal and leave a $100 bill on the nightstand. Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2014 04:48 PM (qbJnm) 386
Thank God I was born 10 years too early to be anywhere close to this this generation of moonbats. I truly feel bad for young men today.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2014 04:48 PM (0LHZx) 387
A friend of mine had a woman in his research group who accused a brutha in the same group of pawing her (IIRC). Big brouhaha ensues, with my friend sympathetic and supportive, but apparently not enough so.
Next, Precious Snowflake accuses him of the same thing. Now he's in deep shit (and he's about the least likely person on earth to do anything of the kind), with the dean and everybody involved. Huge shitstorm develops, with him having to hire a lawyer, the whole burrito. Then Precious Snowflake decides the fucking dean isn't sympathetic and supportive enough, so she now accuses him too. (I'm not making this up.) One scurrilous allegation too many, and the whole bubble burst. But my friend was lucky that she was that unhinged, otherwise he'd have been in BIG trouble. No idea whether there was anything to the original allegation, which of course was long forgotten by this time. So there ARE loony tunes out there. The question in each case has to be whether we''re dealing with one of them, or is there something substantive to the allegation? Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 05, 2014 04:48 PM (oKE6c) 388
When faced with all this shit, why would men even bother?
The radfems (and sometimes regular women) don't realize that men need women a lot less than women need men. It's like that blog post that imagines what happens when men don't show up for work for just one day - the world grinds to a fucking halt. Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 05, 2014 04:48 PM (xSCb6) 389
Anyone remember The Simpsons episode, Homer Bad Man, which aired almost exactly 20 years ago? (nov. 27 1994)
Woman: I don't know Homer Simpson, I -- I never met Homer Simpson or had any contact with him, but -- [cries uncontrollably] -- I'm sorry, I can't go on. Sally: That's OK: your tears say more than real evidence _ever_ could. Posted by: fb at December 05, 2014 04:48 PM (JVEmw) Posted by: Jackie at December 05, 2014 04:48 PM (MMC8r) 391
383 Which Law and Order episode did Jackie steal her story from?
----------------------- Jodie Foster's 'The Accused'. Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at December 05, 2014 04:48 PM (oDCMR) 392
Which Law and Order episode did Jackie steal her story from?
*snort* They would have placed it at Liberty University. Posted by: toby928(C) at December 05, 2014 04:49 PM (rwI+c) 393
376 I just finished raping a Miller Lite twelve pack.
Better than drinking it. Posted by: HR needs beer at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (ZKzrr) *fistbump* Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2014 04:49 PM (2Ojst) 394
380
No--too much art, not enough "performance". bummer .... I wanted to hear more about mustaches Posted by: alec at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (DxQWB) ********** Actually I have no idea why Ace hasn't touched it yet. Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at December 05, 2014 04:49 PM (RJMhd) 395
knock 7
You Hash for this thread is knock7???? Thats..... awesomely ironic. Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:41 PM (NaV4z) ******** oh gawd...I'm going to go to hell for snickering at that like a hyena. Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at December 05, 2014 04:44 PM I hadn't looked at it like that, but now that you mention it, move over in that handbasket, Danube River Guide, I'm coming along. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 05, 2014 04:49 PM (knoK7) 396
>>We did have some independent verification that there is a school called the University of Virginia.
Can you prove there is a Virginia? Posted by: Santa Claus at December 05, 2014 04:49 PM (0xTsz) 397
I take a seven hour pounding on broken glass and keep on ticking.
Posted by: Jackie's Combat Cooter at December 05, 2014 04:50 PM (oDCMR) 398
Posted by: despair at December 05, 2014 04:42 PM (dcY7v)
You sir, are correct! My initiation involved a week of sleep and alcohol deprivation while thoroughly cleaning of the fraternity house (worst part was the stripping, rewaxing, and buffing of the 1600sqft dining room floor seven times with pads like those that come with a can of Turtle Wax). Posted by: Country Singer at December 05, 2014 04:50 PM (nL0sw) 399
What the hell is an assault awareness counsellor? Do these college womyn not know when they've been assaulted? Seems implausible to me.
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 05, 2014 04:50 PM (xNkaN) Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 05, 2014 04:50 PM (014lE) Posted by: alec at December 05, 2014 04:51 PM (DxQWB) 402
Boy was supposed to be taking his girl out tonight (since he isn't old enough to have a license I get to drive) but it is time that we should be at her front door, and...
well, here I am! Methinks he might be in a spot of bother in about five...four...three... Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 05, 2014 04:51 PM (6fyGz) 403
I love cats! They are delicious.
Posted by: Killerdog at December 05, 2014 04:51 PM (7KwMr) 404
On behalf of Rolling Stone I'd like to say we have verified all of Jackie's claims. In fact, the same producer that verified Obamas claims, enabling me to embarrass myself in front of millions of people, did the work here too!
Posted by: Candy Crowley at December 05, 2014 04:51 PM (6um35) 405
The radfems (and sometimes regular women) don't realize that men need women a lot less than women need men.
SPIDER! KILL IT!!!!! -Fem Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2014 04:51 PM (qbJnm) 406
I did not independently verify that there is indeed a University of Virgina, but I was told that such a place existed by several Women's Studies majors, and I have no reason to doubt their accounts.
Posted by: Sabrina Erdely at December 05, 2014 04:52 PM (UlJ3l) 407
Which Law and Order episode did Jackie steal her story from?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 05, 2014 04:48 PM (Mxs5H) The episode of the racist, wife-beating alcoholic right winger kills everyone in the building with a "machine" gun then rapes them. That one. Oh, wait. That's every episode of LO Posted by: TangoNine at December 05, 2014 04:52 PM (x3YFz) 408
Sex and the City was a harbinger of things to come.
4 women in NYC, each of them whining that there are no good men in the city. As soon as they meet a decent guy...good looking, smart, makes good money...he's cast out because he snores, or he takes a shower after sex, or something trivial. Next episode...why or why can't I find a decent man? Isn't feminism awesome?? Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2014 04:52 PM (0LHZx) 409
3 hours.
Ah. No need to seek medical attention then. Posted by: Bob Dole at December 05, 2014 04:47 PM (rwI+c) No. And I can't believe Jackie left out having dreams of Todd Akin telling her that she can't be pregnant because your body rejects rape sperm. Somehow she and RS could have fit that into the story along with Republicans.... Posted by: Jen the original at December 05, 2014 04:52 PM (oOlEN) 410
No, this won't change anything.
-------------------------- Sadly, you're probably right. We're dealing with people who seem to truly believe that "reality" pr0n is actually, you know, not staged. Posted by: DocJ at December 05, 2014 04:52 PM (zrsn3) 411
Remember, Rolling Stone is a magazine filled with professional journalism and stuff.
Not like those bloggers. Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 04:52 PM (MMC8r) 412
I am attached to a completely crazy woman.
Posted by: Jackie's Combat Cooter at December 05, 2014 04:52 PM (oDCMR) 413
Notice how this system the left has set up removes the option of having a liar charged with filing a false police report. It's something they know would allow more and more liars to make false accusations without fear of police charges.
The Lena Dunham story even now has a radio station manager refusing to hand over info that would show the story is a lie. If this story had the police involved she would have to hand over evidence. Such a scam. Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2014 04:53 PM (MNq6o) 414
SPIDER! KILL IT!!!!!
-Fem Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2014 04:51 PM (qbJnm) ---- Whaddaya mean "change the oil??" Posted by: fixerupper at December 05, 2014 04:53 PM (NaV4z) 415
She didn't want the story printed. She just wanted it believed.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 05, 2014 04:53 PM (nFdGS) 416
BREAKING: Last Name of 'Jackie' is Nifong
Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 04:53 PM (MMC8r) 417
The episode of the racist, wife-beating alcoholic right winger kills everyone in the building with a "machine" gun then rapes them. That one.
Oh, wait. That's every episode of LO Posted by: TangoNine at December 05, 2014 04:52 PM (x3YFz) _________ That's the episode of every crime show on TV. You know the killer/rapist/general bad guy is the white guy in his 40s. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2014 04:53 PM (0LHZx) 418
I can't state this more emphatically: If Jackie's story is partially or wholly untrue, it doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her. ****** Reason people didn't believe her? The story sounded like Bullshit. Truth? The story was bullshit, or at least the parts that sounded that way. Validated. Posted by: Lea at December 05, 2014 04:53 PM (lIU4e) 419
I am attached to a completely crazy woman. Posted by: Jackie's Combat Cooter at December 05, 2014 04:52 PM (oDCMR) so... you need a crowbar or something to get it off? Posted by: TangoNine at December 05, 2014 04:53 PM (x3YFz) 420
Boy was supposed to be taking his girl out tonight (since he isn't old enough to have a license I get to drive) but it is time that we should be at her front door, and...
well, here I am! Methinks he might be in a spot of bother in about five...four...three... Get him a hooker and avoid the rape allegation........ Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2014 04:54 PM (qbJnm) 421
Isn't feminism awesome??
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2014 04:52 PM It has been for millions of cats looking for a home. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 05, 2014 04:54 PM (knoK7) 422
Nude Pod People
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 05, 2014 04:54 PM (rwI+c) 423
If I'm not mistaken, Jackie is open to a lawsuit as well.
Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 04:54 PM (MMC8r) 424
Which Law and Order episode did Jackie steal her story from?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 05, 2014 04:48 PM (Mxs5H) You got that all wrong. She's in negotiations with LandO right now... Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 05, 2014 04:55 PM (6fyGz) Posted by: anon a mouse at December 05, 2014 04:55 PM (/jpU8) 426
Even if it turns out that the UVA truthers were right, their epistemology is warped by ideology. Lack of justification offset by brute luck.
I have no idea who the hell Jesse Spafford is, but if I am reading this correctly, are people exposing a fraudulent magazine article now being referred to as "UVA Truthers"??? Leftism is truly a mental disorder. Leftists are dangerous precisely because they are literally insane. Posted by: rickl at December 05, 2014 04:55 PM (zoehZ) 427
I still don't get what the big deal is.
Posted by: Dan Rather at December 05, 2014 04:55 PM (0LHZx) 428
I said okay to just the tip and then all hell broke loose.
Posted by: Jackie's Combat Cooter at December 05, 2014 04:55 PM (oDCMR) 429
Psst, Phi Kappa Psi: call me.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 05, 2014 04:55 PM (oKE6c) 430
That's the episode of every crime show on TV. You know the killer/rapist/general bad guy is the white guy in his 40s.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2014 04:53 PM (0LHZx) I'm going to watch Blue Bloods. Heard it's not bent left. Apparently a good cop show. Posted by: TangoNine at December 05, 2014 04:55 PM (x3YFz) 431
I hadn't looked at it like that, but now that you mention it, move over in that handbasket, Danube River Guide, I'm coming along. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 05, 2014 04:49 PM (knoK7) ******* Hell--might be better than sticking around for the 'Hillary-ing". And looks like we just got saved by--a new thread. Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at December 05, 2014 04:55 PM (RJMhd) Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2014 04:56 PM (0LHZx) 433
>>Next episode...why or why can't I find a decent man?
Isn't feminism awesome?? Except Sex in the City was really about 4 gay men. The creator admitted as much. Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2014 04:56 PM (ABcz/) 434
"Oh look that's where you were raped."
"OH there? thanks." Posted by: ace at December 05, 2014 04:10 PM (/FnUH) Needs a nice, architecturally-compliant memorial plaque: "Site of the Famous 2012 Non-rape". Posted by: zombie Josef Goebbels at December 05, 2014 04:56 PM (8Fl6F) Posted by: Billy Dee Williams at December 05, 2014 04:56 PM (rwI+c) 436
Which Law and Order episode did Jackie steal her story from?
Posted by: Buzzsaw I thought it was a Lifetime Original movie, Hard Times at Rape U. Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2014 04:56 PM (MNq6o) 437
the last twit above, Jesse, is freaking out on his account about the Right Wing now. I think he feels epissy.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 05, 2014 04:57 PM (dMEBN) 438
This is what happens when you fuck crazy pants. Warning.
Posted by: Jackie's Combat Cooter at December 05, 2014 04:57 PM (oDCMR) 439
Even if it turns out that the UVA truthers were right, their epistemology is warped by ideology. Lack of justification offset by brute luck.
Funny how 'facts' are misogyny. I guess I could write a screed about Sally Kohn and ritual abuse, and get a pass? Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 04:57 PM (MMC8r) 440
This is a girl who wanted to be buddies with the Rape Activists, needed an "in" and made it happen. Seems like a real problem-solver.
Posted by: FDR's Television at December 05, 2014 04:58 PM (ne2fm) 441
Oh, wait. That's every episode of LO
Posted by: TangoNine at December 05, 2014 04:52 PM (x3YFz) _________ That's the episode of every crime show on TV. You know the killer/rapist/general bad guy is the white guy in his 40s. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2014 04:53 PM (0LHZx) Which reminds me, the one and only time I ever saw the show Bones (last month when I was in FL for Pop's funeral) the bad guy on the show was...me. Yeah, there's a reason I don't really watch much TV. Except for that Ancient Aliens guy, I love that show, they're doing a marathon right now. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 05, 2014 04:58 PM (6fyGz) 442
437 the last twit above, Jesse, is freaking out on his account about the Right Wing now. I think he feels epissy.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 05, 2014 04:57 PM (dMEBN) _________ So is Melissa McEwen. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2014 04:58 PM (0LHZx) 443
"Oh look that's where you were raped."
"OH there? thanks." Posted by: ace But actually, I was raped here. *points at cooter* Posted by: Jackie at December 05, 2014 04:58 PM (MNq6o) 444
I'm going to watch Blue Bloods. Heard it's not bent left. Apparently a good cop show.
Posted by: TangoNine at December 05, 2014 04:55 PM (x3YFz) Stars Tom Selleck. He of Republican, conservative, kiss my ass Rosie O'Donnell fame. On the board of the NRA.... Posted by: Jen the original at December 05, 2014 04:59 PM (oOlEN) 445
Fiction, non-fiction, what's the diff?
Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 04:59 PM (MMC8r) 446
404 On behalf of Rolling Stone I'd like to say we have verified all of Jackie's claims. In fact, the same producer that verified Obamas claims, enabling me to embarrass myself in front of millions of people, did the work here too!
Posted by: Candy Crowley at December 05, 2014 04:51 PM (6um35) Check the transcripts! Check the transcripts! Posted by: Barky the Psychic at December 05, 2014 04:59 PM (oKE6c) 447
One Moar Time - Candy Crowley to Leave CNN due to gang rape allegations.
Posted by: Jackie's Combat Cooter at December 05, 2014 04:59 PM (oDCMR) 448
You know what? I'd support a law that any charge of rape or sexual abuse MUST be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Any woman making such a charge must cooperate fully, OR be charged with obstructing justice. If the charge is proven unfounded, (not just not the perp is not convicted, but the basic facts of the story suggest it never happened) then the person making the allegation does a year in jail. Call it the put up or shut up law.
Posted by: Dr. McCoy at December 05, 2014 05:00 PM (F192H) 449
What are false allegations of rape if not sexism?
Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 05:00 PM (MMC8r) 450
From back in the old days..
If you call a fraternity a frat, then you should call a country a cunt. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2014 05:01 PM (0LHZx) Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 05:01 PM (MMC8r) 452
Hey Rolling Stone, why didn't you report on this http://tinyurl.com/kpwo2fg ?
Posted by: Country Singer at December 05, 2014 05:01 PM (nL0sw) 453
So who is Jesse Spafford and what the fuck is he saying?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 05, 2014 05:01 PM (xSCb6) Posted by: wheatie at December 05, 2014 05:01 PM (kWxsq) 455
113 ... Precisely. If the story proves to be utter lies, but otherwise supports the leftist agenda, Plan B is exercised: "fake, but accurate".
Posted by: ToursLepantoVienna at December 05, 2014 05:02 PM (6NIyO) 456
As penance the Raping Stoned writers should be forced to swim with a pod of horney dolphins for a day.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at December 05, 2014 05:02 PM (RYD+a) 457
454 Bob Beckel just said..."But there have been a lot rapes there that were unreported".
O_o Posted by: wheatie at December 05, 2014 05:01 PM (kWxsq) ____________ So we should burn down the fraternity house to avenge all those unreported rapists. Social Justice and such. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2014 05:02 PM (0LHZx) 458
Bob Beckel just said..."But there have been a lot rapes there that were unreported".
And Bob's lost a lot of weight that wasn't counted. Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 05:02 PM (MMC8r) 459
You have to hand it to a feminist hog who can say "Even if her story was wholly untrue. . .that doesn't validate the reasons for disbelieving her."
Well shucks I can lie my scroungy backside off, and that doesn't mean you could think I was a liar? Maybe Fauxcahontas could draw out her trusty Cherokee bow and arrow and plug an arrow in the fat feminist backside--and I don't have to believe the fat feminist hog was hit with an arrow? As Groucho Marx once said, "Who are you going to believe--me, or your own lying eyes?" Posted by: Comanche Voter at December 05, 2014 05:02 PM (wdHk6) 460
Yeah, there's a reason I don't really watch much TV. Except for that Ancient Aliens guy, I love that show, they're doing a marathon right now.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 05, 2014 04:58 PM (6fyGz) Nielsen has been ringing our phone off the hook (or would be, except I forward their calls to our local Reds). Apparently they want people to keep a log of their TV viewing, in return for which they'll pay the people $5 (Yes! Five whole dollars! In a lump sum - not structured or anything). OK, so the only thing we watch on TV is Crimson Tide football games. Where's my $5? Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 05, 2014 05:02 PM (oKE6c) 461
453 So who is Jesse Spafford and what the fuck is he saying?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 05, 2014 05:01 PM (xSCb6) ___________ He's a dolt who thinks using big words makes one sound smart. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2014 05:03 PM (0LHZx) 462
Gee, those Twitter commenters act as if this actually happened when the facts demonstrate it didn't. Where have I seen that before? Give me a moment.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2014 05:04 PM (CelPg) 463
"By shutting down ALL of the frats?" And the sororities. Because ... rape! These people are divorced from reason. And they're in charge of our institutions of higher learning. Posted by: Brown Line at December 05, 2014 05:04 PM (zcbZo) 464
This is what happens when you fuck crazy pants. Warning.
My son has a friend on a major Pa campus. Okay looking guy, nothing exceptional. He says he has a pool of 5,000 19 year old freshman girls (he exaggerates a tad) who will willingly sleep with him every year. Followed the next year by the next 5,000. He says, "I don't do crazy. No need. Things aren't that tough." I think some of these bull shit fabrications would stop if someone/anyone would sack the crazies once in a while. Alas, declining morals has guys staying away in droves. Interesting times. Posted by: EC Moron at December 05, 2014 05:06 PM (zxQ4h) 465
so all these people "supporting" this screwball, and refusing to doubt her or question her on conflicting facts.....
I wonder if they think they helped her now? I mean, i know they felt they were helping her then, telling her it was her choice about pressing charges and such, but now -- now that it's clear they contributed to a disturbed fabulist -- I wonder if they see the problem with their strategy? Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 05, 2014 05:06 PM (LWu6U) 466
Even if it turns out that the UVA truthers were right, their epistemology is warped by ideology. Lack of justification offset by brute luck.
Wow, projection's a bitch. Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 05:06 PM (MMC8r) 467
The percentage of false rape reports are in the area of 35%. So what are the odds Jackie's marathon rape session is true? Remember, I attached to a crazy bitch.
Posted by: Jackie's Combat Cooter at December 05, 2014 05:06 PM (oDCMR) 468
>>Bob Beckel just said..."But there have been a lot rapes there that were unreported".
Yep, and Obama heard the message that non-voters sent in the 2014 mid-terms. So now we take action based on imaginary rape victims and voters? Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2014 05:07 PM (ABcz/) 469
SO ... is it true that Candy Crawley's out ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 05, 2014 05:07 PM (xWPj1) 470
I think Jesse Spafford is angling for a job as White House spokesman in a Warren administration.
Posted by: rickl at December 05, 2014 05:07 PM (zoehZ) 471
Tell you what, instead of torching fraternity houses for a lie, or looting, or shutting down traffic- here's an idea. How about we hold people responsible for their own actions and when the truth is revealed, we all accept it.
Because if you keep attacking people who follow truth, the law and wise social mores there is going to come a time when they fight back and beat the stupid right out of you. Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2014 05:07 PM (CelPg) 472
The beauty of the silent majority is that they can say whatever you want them to say.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 05, 2014 05:08 PM (rwI+c) 473
And Miller Lite sucks ... is that the Official Horde Opinion as well ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 05, 2014 05:08 PM (xWPj1) 474
And Miller Lite sucks ... is that the Official Horde Opinion as well ?
tequila > beer Thatisall. Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 05, 2014 05:11 PM (DT3rQ) Posted by: toby928(C) at December 05, 2014 05:11 PM (rwI+c) 476
Dear All Men/Boys/Chaz going to college,
Keep it in your pants, if you have a floppy appendage and are non-female gender specific (no offense to LBGTWHATEVER). Should you have an, uh, urge to even be alone with a female gender-type-non-lena, please consult your ombudsman for the paperwork required, witnessed, and stamped with university seal of consensual rubbing of parts. In no event, on campus, is underage drinking, drugs or rubber duckies allowed (or gravel/blow up toys/ whipping cream). Part A includes running of three bases with clothing intact. Indicate lights on or off. French kissing: yes/no with swappage of spit. Part B includes safe sex, clothing optional. Non-latex only due to allergies. Oral sex: yes/no. Part C includes full nudity, full sex, whoopie. Let it all hang out. Part D includes gender selection and menage a trois type fun house events...*which require more paperwork. If you are under the age of 21, please include parenteral approval (or whoever is paying your tuition to this fine university). In addition, you require a note from your doctor regarding mental status and history of STD's. We are happy to have you be a part of our team and proud of our history of tolerance, safety and school spirit. Welcome to college. Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 05, 2014 05:13 PM (dMEBN) Posted by: anon a mouse at December 05, 2014 05:14 PM (/jpU8) Posted by: toby928(C) at December 05, 2014 05:15 PM (rwI+c) 479
The intellectual rigor of the people on the Left is really something to see when they put it on display.
Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 05:16 PM (MMC8r) 480
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Even if it turns out that the UVA truthers were right, their epistemology is warped by ideology. Lack of justification offset by brute luck. Wow, projection's a bitch. Posted by: --- at December 05, 2014 05:06 PM (MMC8r) At first glance I thought he was discussing "episiotomy" warp. Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 05, 2014 05:16 PM (dMEBN) 481
The rule should be; if the accused name is published then so must the accusers.
This allows the public to know the character of the accuser and the accused. There will be some who will concur with the opinion or have knowledge of the reverse. Only by public knowledge can we be certain that those who have information but who are not knowledgeable of the accusation will be able to contribute. This applies in either direction. Personally I'm of the opinion that this should apply to all crime at all ages but the majority disagrees. But we have seen very consistently the dangers of hiding false accusers names. They use the anonymity as a shield against the truth. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 05, 2014 05:17 PM (KK+mC) 482
Used to hunt and fish in the woods around Oberlin. Those damned college kids used to draw pentagrams in old barns, and torture cats, for empowerment.
I am sure Hillary will fix that. Or at least, make that more scalable, and invoke empathy with those even younger, and more bloodthirsty. Maybe they need a little more money to build an altar. Just in case the old farts in government do not get around to funding more mosques, maybe we could get a grassroots program going. I got some gum and duct tape, and lots of other things. Posted by: concerned american at December 05, 2014 05:17 PM (LWi6+) 483
I think some of these bull shit fabrications would stop if someone/anyone would sack the crazies once in a while. Alas, declining morals has guys staying away in droves.
Interesting times. Posted by: EC Moron at December 05, 2014 05:06 PM (zxQ4h) In the mid 80's, I was single and stationed in Wahiawa Hi... a Navy Communications station... Because for Men is was considered shore duty, for women Sea duty, the base was at least half women... Living in NCO Barracks there, was a hoot.... Parties everywhere... And I literally had women knocking on my door, to 'go out'.... which basically meant a two block walk to the club... then Sex... For any reasonable fairly in shape guy... who has ANY clue? I submit College today is just about like that... Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at December 05, 2014 05:18 PM (f0pWu) 484
Brute luck is hearing an implausible story and thinking maybe, just maybe, it is BS
Posted by: ejo at December 05, 2014 05:18 PM (rsGj7) Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 05, 2014 05:20 PM (oFCZn) 486
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 05, 2014 05:13 PM (dMEBN)
Most importantly??? if you WANT to have Sex... OFF CAMPUS! If its off campus, the College has no legal business to even be involved. Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at December 05, 2014 05:20 PM (f0pWu) 487
Has anyone asked how similar this story is to the scripts Erdley is shopping in Hollywood?
Posted by: Jean at December 05, 2014 05:21 PM (TETYm) 488
When I watched the movie The X-Men I was fascinated by that machine Xavier used to scan minds around the world.
I had a fantasy about using that machine to mind rape wimmenz. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 05, 2014 05:21 PM (oFCZn) 489
The Left has been terrible at picking their "bloody shirts" to wave lately. They really do need to tighten their recruiting processes.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Check Out Our Humbugs at the Outrage Outlet! (Bahs not incl.) at December 05, 2014 05:22 PM (g+akU) 490
UVA truthers? Don't you just hate it when they are right?
Posted by: Iosif vissarionvich at December 05, 2014 05:23 PM (MY0NS) 491
For any reasonable fairly in shape guy... who has ANY clue? I submit College today is just about like that...
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf Ask Jinx, her boys are in college right now and I'm fairly certain they are in shape. Posted by: Jean at December 05, 2014 05:23 PM (TETYm) 492
Well, I'll give Sally Kohn this...at least her comment made some sense, albeit incorrect.
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 05, 2014 05:24 PM (/Ho8c) 493
This whole discussion, and all the pending legislation in a couple of states reminds me of a line I heard once in a song about a guy and girl...
You win, I win, we lose Posted by: EC Moron at December 05, 2014 05:24 PM (zxQ4h) 494
">>Bob Beckel just said..."But there have been a lot rapes there that were unreported".
Yep, and Obama heard the message that non-voters sent in the 2014 mid-terms. So now we take action based on imaginary rape victims and voters? Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2014 05:07 PM (ABcz/) " Yup. From their point of view, anyway. If we were taking action based on facts, just imagine how different things would be. Half of DC getting the perp walk, booming economy, respect from our allies, our enemies confused and fearful, the list could go on & on .... Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 05, 2014 05:27 PM (OCcU9) 495
This not going to the cops and going to the university administration is just nuts. What's the difference other than the fact that a false accusation will not be prosecuted? Or that the alleged rapist can't tell his side of the story? How convenient for a liar. A victim doesn't want to be victimized again by reliving the event when making a police report but it's okay reliving it while reporting it to the administration? And no DNA evidence or lack thereof to bother with.
What a scam. Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2014 05:34 PM (MNq6o) 496
He's appealing to the 2/3 of women who weren't raped.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 05, 2014 05:36 PM (Dhdnu) 497
So.....its 'luck' when the facts are unearthed? Shouldn't the facts have been part of the original story.....?
Posted by: goatexchange at December 05, 2014 05:36 PM (sYUHT) 498
Freud was deadly correct about 'hysteria'.
Lena Dunham publishing a memoir about incest-lesbian-child-abuse-molestation-rape OF HER LITTLE SISTER. 'Jackie', a transparent hysteric making drunk-hookup-remorse accusations. Then the insanely hysterical fantasy actually getting published by RS. It feeds on itself. It creates a Salem reality-distortion-feedback-loop. Self perpetuating, and ever accelerating. Posted by: Rufus T Firefly at December 05, 2014 05:36 PM (QvtD6) 499
Most importantly??? if you WANT to have Sex... OFF CAMPUS! If its off campus, the College has no legal business to even be involved. Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at December 05, 2014 05:20 PM (f0pWu) Thank you. We will add this to our form to include if you have sex anywhere or rub things, yet are enrolled, you still need permission and to speak to ombudsman. Thank you for your interest in wimmen's rights to decisions and fairness as they do not have appendages. (No offense to LGTWHATVAH). Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 05, 2014 05:36 PM (dMEBN) 500
It's when I give you a Royal Flush on Poker Night and all of your friends have Full houses, then-
I pop a blood vessel in your brain.just cuz. Watch out for Rape Luck though. Or if he finds you, protect your holes. Posted by: Brute Luck at December 05, 2014 05:37 PM (0cMkb) 501
I'm still dealing with the RS's use of the phrase "Rape Activists". No matter how I parse it, it just doesn't work for anyone who isn't manifestly sick.
Posted by: Atlanta Constitution at December 05, 2014 05:37 PM (l1zOH) 502
/ Urinal sock
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.etc. at December 05, 2014 05:38 PM (l1zOH) 503
I have never been able to wrap my head around the one that is Sally Kohn -- shot out of the OWS canon of fame -- she wanders in and out of the liberal landscape looking for a cause she can latch on to. Not an idiot - but always an idiot.
Posted by: gracepmc at December 05, 2014 05:51 PM (xvd51) 504
Lots of nice girl townies in C'ville and surrounding counties that would love to hook up with a guy at UVA. that's where the smart money is. If I was a guy matriculated at UVA, I wouldn't go further than having a polite cup of coffee with a female UVA student. Especially after this. Just think of all the SJW womyn who are setting their sights on setting up some poor putz on Grounds, JUST TO PROVE THE TRUTH OF JACKIE'S NARRATIVE!!!!1111!!!!!!eleventy111!
Count on it. Posted by: Chef Mojo at December 05, 2014 06:00 PM (4G5ek) 505
Tonight on "Lame Excuses"...
Posted by: tu3031 at December 05, 2014 06:09 PM (S0A/C) 506
Posted by: Chef Mojo at December 05, 2014 06:00 PM (4G5ek)
Drinking coffee that is not fair trade is like assaulting people. Hater. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Check Out Our Humbugs at the Outrage Outlet! (Bahs not incl.) at December 05, 2014 06:15 PM (g+akU) 507
I was in a sorority, and currently have a son in a fraternity and a daughter in a sorority. This whole story reeked of a made up story from the get go. It would only be told, written and believed by someone whose knowledge of the Greek system comes exclusively from watching made for TV movies and who wants desperately to believe the worst in people they think are 'privileged.'
Jackie surely has either hysterically or narcissistic personality disorder. She is guilty and I have no sympathy for her, but she was used by the reporter and magazine. Posted by: LASue at December 05, 2014 06:17 PM (8Ljms) 508
507 This whole story reeked of a made up story from the get go.
Just because your life experience has given you a working bullshit detector, and just because it was absolutely correct in telling you that you were reading a bullshit story in this case, doesn't validate your reasons for disbelieving the story. Posted by: Melissa McEwan at December 05, 2014 06:23 PM (qyomX) 509
Drinking coffee that is not fair trade is like assaulting people. Hater.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Check Out Our Humbugs at the Outrage Outlet! (Bahs not incl.) at December 05, 2014 06:15 PM (g+akU) Dude, ain't nothing BUT fair trade coffee on Grounds and The Corner. It's UVA. No worries there. "Our brokers procure our organic beans at a loss with a blow job added into the deal. That's just how fair our trade is, muthaf**kas!" That's just how C'ville rolls, baby. Company town. Posted by: Chef Mojo at December 05, 2014 06:29 PM (4G5ek) 510
This is merely a sentencing hearing. Your guilt has already been determined.
Posted by: Bluedog803 at December 05, 2014 06:31 PM (DjcIp) 511
If you permit people to ask questions, then they will eventually come across the truth. Hence, you must cow them from ever even considering asking a question in the first place. The only problem here, from the perspective of the Hysterical Shrieking Accusers brigade, is that they were too moderate and too soft in their nonstop hysterical accusations. ====== Amateurs. Posted by: Uncle Joe Stalin at December 05, 2014 06:59 PM (JBggj) 512
Only way to stop the campus rape epidemic is for frats to have an awareness program where members routinely accuse faculty and staff of sexual assault.
Post pics of female students around campus entitled "potential rapist!" Accuse the Univ Presidents wife of grabbing your cock. BTW I think I saw the staff at Rolling Stone gangrape Al Sharpton. Story should hit monday and of course we dont need to contact staff at RS to get their side. Posted by: fen at December 05, 2014 07:24 PM (tswJo) 513
Old and busted: "Fake, but accurate."
New hotness: "True, but inaccurate." Posted by: Socratease at December 05, 2014 07:34 PM (82qVG) 514
This is very Salem Witch-hunt like. We have one likely hysteric make an implausible accusation, one involving ritual rape as a core institutional recruitment tool, and when people say, "That seems somewhat implausible to me," there come the shrieks from the other hysterics: Then you are a Rape Denier!
Golly, it's almost as though they WANT the arguation a to be true. I wonder why they would do that. It's a mystery! Posted by: Phinn at December 05, 2014 08:54 PM (0vzJL) Posted by: That guy from "Blazing Saddles" at December 05, 2014 10:07 PM (amQXf) 516
"Hence you must cow them from asking any questions . . ."
Isn't this the story of Barack Obama? Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2014 10:19 PM (hTeQK) 517
To understand the complexity of President Sullivan's response to the crisis, the University's Facebook page explains a lot. Initially, her response was measured and rational. Commenters (mostly alumni) responded in great anger that Sullivan wasn't outraged enough and called for her head on a platter. Obliging as a scapegoat, she asked how high when the mob said jump and that's when irrational measures such as suspending frat activity were declared. Emotions overrode cooler heads.
Posted by: Observer at December 05, 2014 10:20 PM (sCMPu) 518
"I know it was Phi Psi because a year afterward my friend pointed out the building to me and said that's where it happened."
So it was her friend who recognized the building, not her? Maybe the same friend also told her WHAT happened: "And let's see, how about they gang raped you on a pile of broken glass, that's the ticket, a whole bunch of them raped you on a pile of broken glass." Maybe the friend's name is Sabrina Erdely. Posted by: Alec Rawls at December 05, 2014 11:25 PM (cI0Sy) 519
This not going to the cops and going to the university administration is just nuts.
_____________________________ In the UVA case, the woman waited 8 months before going to the university. And the only reason she reported the rape at that time was because the university came to her, wanting to know why she was failing half her classes. Her response was the rape story. But of course, one must not read anything into the convenient timing . . . . (because that would clearly be sexxxxxxxist!!!) Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 06, 2014 05:10 AM (2ruKl) 520
These people spent a lot of money on college tuition, to have that much cr@p pumped into their heads. Go easy on 'em...
Posted by: Tom at December 06, 2014 11:45 AM (nJqhv) 521
Go to Jesse Spafford's twitter feed and read the posts. Is this a joke?
Posted by: Tom at December 06, 2014 11:54 AM (nJqhv) 522
I doubted because "I was thrown THROUGH a glass topped table, and forcefully rolled in glass for 3+ hours; but didn't have to be hospitalized" seemed like a lie; and not something that would happen in the real world.
In the real world; you'd need a blood transfusion and medical attention before 3 hours was up. If the story was true, she'd almost certainly be dead; and she wasn't dead. Clearly knowing that people have a finite amount of blood in them and that glass tends to let that blood out quickly was just "brute luck" on my part; and the story was entirely plausible... because most humans don't have blood that leaks out and causes issues when removed. Posted by: gekkobear at December 06, 2014 01:34 PM (qqVuf) 523
A British paper reported that a Psi member became so upset by the harassment caused by this story that he committed suicide. If that is true somebody at rolling stone has to answer for thiis kids death.
Posted by: daisy at December 06, 2014 08:22 PM (BfigG) 524
One of the best-kept secrets in America is the fact that fully 50% of all reported rapes turn out to be false (the actual numbers range from 45%-55%, so I have settled upon the middle). The end result in all of this is that eventually, as with the boy who cried "Wolf!", no one except radical feminists will believe any reported rape. I hope that women are happy then.
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