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Republican Party Passes Meaningless Bill Designed to Trick Stupid Americans in Gruber-Like Fashion
I'm tired of the Grubering, particularly from my own alleged side.
The Yoho bill is not designed to block Obama's use of federal monies to carry out his unlawful amnesty. The Yoho bill is designed to dupe Republicans into thinking Boehner has attempted to block Obama's use of federal monies to carry out his unlawful amnesty. It is designed to trick the Stupid American Voter. As usual. This has court implications as well. Boehner supposedly will sue the Administration over its power-grabs. However, Congress has the power itself to delimit executive overrreach -- through its power of the purse, of course. The Supreme Court may very well decline to hear any kind of challenge to Obama's executive overreach on the theory that Congress has in fact implicitly blessed -- constructively "passed" -- Obama's executive laws by its tacit acceptance of them. If Boehner really wants to prevail in his lawsuit, he has to show that Congress is in fact using all of its own power to block Obama's executive overreach, and this power is yet insufficient, thus necessitating the entry of the third co-equal branch into the dispute. But Boehner is not doing that. Boehner is in fact showing he'll do absolutely nothing at all to stop Obama. Given that, the Supreme Court will naturally take the position that they are not being called into a bona fide constitutional dispute, but rather a faked-up political con, and thus have no real justification for ruling on the matter. Boehner can fool a few low-information conservatives but he can't fool Scalia and Thomas.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: RoyalOil at December 04, 2014 02:53 PM (VjL9S)
Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 04, 2014 02:55 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: policiadearmadajose at December 04, 2014 02:56 PM (O55aB)
Posted by: Large Paper-Mache' Shocked Face at December 04, 2014 02:56 PM (UI6N5)
Just wait until next year when they have control of both houses of congress. They'll be passing bills and force, force Obama to veto them.
Posted by: Dr Pine's House of Pie at December 04, 2014 02:56 PM (sl1UH)
Posted by: Secundus at December 04, 2014 02:57 PM (KRl9p)
Posted by: GOPe Gnomes at December 04, 2014 02:57 PM (RnSfY)
Posted by: Bigby's Nic-Stained Fingers at December 04, 2014 02:57 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Newt at December 04, 2014 02:57 PM (Q52VH)
Posted by: The Chicken at December 04, 2014 02:57 PM (DQZLr)
See how nice I was there? No screaming, or swearing, and all my furniture is still in one piece.
Posted by: MTF at December 04, 2014 02:58 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: Bigby's Nic-Stained Fingers at December 04, 2014 02:58 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 04, 2014 02:59 PM (Usjas)
1. Run on repealing Obamacare and stopping amnesty.
2. Get re-elected.
3. ???
4. Profit!
Posted by: GOPe Gnomes at December 04, 2014 02:57 PM
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Don't fix what ain't broke.
Posted by: Old Man Whittlin' On The Porch at December 04, 2014 02:59 PM (UI6N5)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 04, 2014 02:59 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Sam In VA at December 04, 2014 02:59 PM (Q52VH)
Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 04, 2014 02:55 PM (XzRw1)<<<
Someone mention golf?!
Posted by: King Putt at December 04, 2014 03:00 PM (RnSfY)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 04, 2014 03:00 PM (A+oGs)
You should have either done it the correct way or not done anything at all. What you did is muddled and convoluted and still rewards the White House extensively.
Posted by: Tom Harkin at December 04, 2014 03:00 PM (J0IP0)
Posted by: maddogg at December 04, 2014 03:00 PM (xWW96)
There will be a severe backlash if we take action.
This is not the hill to die on.
We'll do something the next time the issue comes up.
I won't do anything in your mouth.
Posted by: Team Republican at December 04, 2014 03:00 PM (ChY2Q)
Posted by: Pirate who took the cue at December 04, 2014 03:00 PM (SCcgT)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 04, 2014 03:01 PM (wtvvX)
In the end we live in the USA the Democrats prefer.
If you want to make things better, stop being afraid of Democrats.
Posted by: eman at December 04, 2014 03:01 PM (sA9ER)
Par for this course.
I feel like a used whore.
Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 04, 2014 02:55 PM (XzRw1)
At least a whore gets paid for her services...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 04, 2014 03:01 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Justice Roberts at December 04, 2014 03:02 PM (sDapq)
Posted by: John Boehner at December 04, 2014 03:02 PM (LISuA)
Because Boehner supports amnesty. His buddies need their nannies and lawn care. And now that we're playing second fiddle to China, why not put more poor people on the government dole.
I'm so glad I bothered voting a month ago. Civic duty and important, and blah, blah, blah.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2014 03:03 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: The Dude at December 04, 2014 03:03 PM (SyKbw)
Posted by: John McVain at December 04, 2014 03:03 PM (LISuA)
Greg B @gbrinsonPTBO 9m
NEW @Project_Veritas Video! Always love the work of @JamesOKeefeIII Have a look: http://youtu.be/aIxEC0vLlGA @jjauthor @BillPowers9 @ChuckNellis
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 04, 2014 03:03 PM (ZPrif)
Bluuuuuuuue!!!
Posted by: hillary cash clinton at December 04, 2014 03:03 PM (2ZvEW)
Posted by: wth at December 04, 2014 03:03 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Hillary Rodham Clinton at December 04, 2014 03:03 PM (BCskz)
Posted by: hillary cash clinton at December 04, 2014 03:04 PM (2ZvEW)
Posted by: Fuhrer Boehner at December 04, 2014 03:04 PM (JO9+V)
It's unreasonable to expect anything of the GOPe when they only control 2/2 of 1/3 of government and there's an election coming up.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2014 03:04 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: Jeb Bush at December 04, 2014 03:05 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: not familiar with this new lingo at December 04, 2014 03:06 PM (RnSfY)
Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2014 03:06 PM (ahULV)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 04, 2014 03:01 PM
We pay them, royally, for the privilege of them dorking us in the squeakhole
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 04, 2014 03:06 PM (fbsoa)
Posted by: eman at December 04, 2014 03:06 PM (sA9ER)
You know it. I know it.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 04, 2014 03:06 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: GPS at December 04, 2014 03:06 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: MTF at December 04, 2014 03:07 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: whore who discovers she's just been paid with countefeit bills at December 04, 2014 03:07 PM (2ZvEW)
Posted by: RWC - Shopping for Justice! at December 04, 2014 03:07 PM (fWAjv)
Told you nothing would change...nothing will change in Jan....the fix is in.
I'm just happy Ace is starting to see it
Posted by: FITP at December 04, 2014 03:07 PM (yOXTP)
Posted by: John Boehner at December 04, 2014 03:07 PM (CzBeD)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 04, 2014 03:07 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 04, 2014 03:07 PM (JtwS4)
What difference, at this point, does it make?1!11//1!?!?!?/?
Now, where's that bottle of Drambuie?
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 04, 2014 03:08 PM (HSmrB)
Posted by: wth at December 04, 2014 03:03 PM (wAQA5)
Where's country singer? He can give the oompah loompah song the required twang.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 04, 2014 03:08 PM (fbsoa)
Posted by: eman at December 04, 2014 03:08 PM (sA9ER)
Posted by: Methos
Yes, and there's always an election coming up. Can someone bother Boehner with a question - is his job to get the most R's elected, or to uphold the Constitution, stop executive overreach, etc. I'll wait. And wait.
Posted by: Duke at December 04, 2014 03:08 PM (ChY2Q)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 04, 2014 03:09 PM (JtwS4)
I'm registered as an independent. I pretty much hate R's & D's equally.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 04, 2014 03:09 PM (tzSAX)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 04, 2014 03:10 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: eman at December 04, 2014 03:10 PM (sA9ER)
Posted by: GOP Big Money Donors at December 04, 2014 03:10 PM (Tj+s6)
Posted by: The Hill To Die On at December 04, 2014 03:11 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:11 PM (gmeXX)
The JEF has plans for new bldg to process illegal aliens in Crystal City, Virginia. Senator Sessions said it last night on Levin's show.
Posted by: Carol at December 04, 2014 03:11 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: The Dude at December 04, 2014 03:11 PM (SyKbw)
***
How about a cover of Jimmy Buffet's "Why Don't We Get Drunk and Screw (The Country)"?
Posted by: Traumatized Dem Intern at December 04, 2014 03:11 PM (+Gtkw)
Posted by: eman at December 04, 2014 03:08 PM (sA9ER)
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That's my only hope at this point. Other than that, it might be time for the individual states to start telling DC to fuck off.
Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2014 03:11 PM (ahULV)
Ever get the feeling that things are going just so damned seemingly stupid for a purpose?
I have thought for a long time, as other commenters mentioned here last week, that Obama was a component to a punishment coming to the United States for its wickedness and excess.
Watching how the supposed opposition continually caves in the face of Leftist incompetence and fecklessness, one cannot help but get the feeling that all this is supposed to happen.
It's like we're in a chapter of the Book of Judges, here. Someone just turn the page already, I'm weary of the buildup and would prefer to skip to the catastrophe as soon as possible.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, Team Let it Burn is alive and well folks at December 04, 2014 03:11 PM (9LuAk)
This is why we fail, Grasshopper.
Right now, we don't have a side that's on our side in the government.
Posted by: West at December 04, 2014 03:12 PM (1Rgee)
Posted by: B at December 04, 2014 03:12 PM (+Gtkw)
Even the press can't spin that as Congress shutting things down. What is so difficult about this? You might have to wait until you have both houses of Congress but that is coming soon enough.
Of course I know the answer. The Republican establishment guys are happy with what Obama did and we wasted our votes putting more Republicans in office. Either these guys shape up or it is third party time with a vengeance. This is their last chance and they only got it because Obama is a truly execrable POS...
Posted by: Thatch at December 04, 2014 03:12 PM (m/nBa)
Bluuuuuuuue!!!
Posted by: hillary cash clinton at
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Once you go Black, you never go back.
we are talking about Johnny Walker, right?
Posted by: shredded chi at December 04, 2014 03:12 PM (tzSAX)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, Team Let it Burn is alive and well folks at December 04, 2014 03:11 PM (9LuAk)
I'm still convinced that our Betters look at Europe and see it as something to emulate. They haven't hit the wall yet, so we have much farther to fall.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 04, 2014 03:13 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:13 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2014 03:11 PM (ahULV)
couldn't even give Boner the boot from his seat
Posted by: The Dude at December 04, 2014 03:13 PM (SyKbw)
Posted by: Kreplach at December 04, 2014 03:13 PM (DgeNA)
Posted by: Shoot Me Faster at December 04, 2014 03:14 PM (Q3tFF)
Wait, no I don't.
What did you expect?
Posted by: DrewM. at December 04, 2014 03:14 PM (lHZsI)
I said that Boehner was a feckless gutless failure at best and a conniving welcher most likely a year ago and he jump all over my sh!t.
Turns out, I was correct.
I want an apology.
*I know I'm not going to get it, I just want it known that sometimes sticking up just to be sticking up for those you hope will do the right thing will usually bite on the ass*
And I have to say I washed my hands of this whole charade in November.
Say THIS train chugging down the tracks and stepped off.
Anyone who didn't needs an eye exam.
And by the way, Boehner was so confident he'd get away with it that he started actually spelling out what he was going to do and the Reps still got elected, he still got elected and they still voted him back in as speaker.
Waiting for a 3rd party to form. A real one and not the make believe crap of the constitution party or libertarians.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 04, 2014 03:15 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: Carol at December 04, 2014 03:15 PM (sj3Ax)
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I know right. Shut down theater in which an open air monument was shutdown for no discernible reason lead to the biggest Dem smacking in years. Can't have that. No sir.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:15 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Jeb Bush at December 04, 2014 03:15 PM (Tj+s6)
We are all Progressives, we just don't know it yet.
Is it a surprise they have no documented plans for anything?
Is it a surprise that the guys they have in charge can't and won't speak on anything?
Posted by: Rev Dr Dumb Bunnies at December 04, 2014 03:16 PM (cNiT0)
I'm still convinced that our Betters look at
Europe and see it as something to emulate. They haven't hit the wall
yet, so we have much farther to fall.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 04, 2014 03:13 PM (Spluw)
Would that I had recorded the melodramatic sigh I had just now. I'd make a killing selling it to self-loathing teenagers needing a soundtrack for their misery.
One hopes Europe falls sooner rather than later so we across the pond can skip a few steps in the devolution of society.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, Team Let it Burn is alive and well folks at December 04, 2014 03:16 PM (9LuAk)
She was looking for a soul to steal...
She was in a bind, because of her fat behind...
So with the media she made a Deal...
When she came upon this young man...
Kinda Libertarian but kinda not
So the Devil went to the vote stump..
and said Cruz let me tell ya what...
I guess that you don't know it... but I'm a politician too...
and if you care to take a dare.. I'll run an election gainst you...
Now you make a pretty good speech boy, but give the Devil her due,
I'll bet all the US Gold, aginst voters Souls
'Cause I think I'm better than you'
Well the boy said my names Teddy
and it may be a sin...
But I'll take that bet and your gonna regret...
Because the voters are more pissed than they've ever been...
Teddy, get your Campaign tight, and give speeches really hard
'Cause Hell's broke loose in the Senate, and Reid has stacked the cards
And if you win this country will have a fighting chance...
But if you loose, its a Statist dance....
The Devil tried to make her case, and the speeches started to blow
And Fire flew from the media, as lies they started to sow..
And she gave a speech about purse strings, and she made an evil hiss..
And the media just joined right in, and it sounded somthing like this...
When the Devil finished, Teddy said,
'Well you lied a whoppin ton...
But sit right next to your walker there
And let me show you how its done...
Fire on the Border, run illegal run
Hillary doged sniper fire, from a gun...
Chickens more expensive, cause the Fed makes dough
Granny does your Husband lie... yo child, yo...
The Devil bowed her head because she knew that she'd been beat...
She laid the countries power, at the ground, at Teddy's Feet...
Teddy said, Devil just go away, we don't you round here again'
Cause I told you once, you stupid Bitch, Americas the best thats ever been....
Posted by: The Big Bad Wof, by request at December 04, 2014 03:16 PM (f0pWu)
I can envision the time when the American people hold a mass demonstration in DC against the people and party that they just elected in a massive landslide.
Mind-boggling, the irony be.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:16 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: rickl at December 04, 2014 03:16 PM (zoehZ)
Don't look at me, I'm going to do squat.
Oompa loompa doopity dunk.
Now where's is my bottle... I need to get drunk.
Posted by: John Boehner at December 04, 2014 03:17 PM (RnSfY)
James O'Keefe @JamesOKeefeIII
We have also filed bar complaints against Us Attorney Sal Perricone after we discovered his anonymous posting pic.twitter.com/MB27o41qXR
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 04, 2014 03:17 PM (ZPrif)
You should have either done it the correct way or not done anything at all. What you did is muddled and convoluted and still rewards the White House extensively.
Posted by: Tom Harkin at December 04, 2014 03:00 PM (J0IP0)
Amazing just how much this mirrors an argument I've gotten myself into on another blog.
Posted by: Dr Pine's House of Pie at December 04, 2014 03:17 PM (sl1UH)
I've thought that a few times in the past.
Been wrong every time.
Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 04, 2014 03:17 PM (KeRzR)
Yeah. A landslide victory less than a year later. Forget shut down. How about burn it down?
Metaphorically speaking.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:18 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: The Dude at December 04, 2014 03:13 PM (SyKbw)
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That's why I said "individual states". Most everything east of the Mississippi is a lost cause now.
Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2014 03:18 PM (ahULV)
I know right. Shut down theater in which an open air monument was
shutdown for no discernible reason lead to the biggest Dem smacking in
years. Can't have that. No sir.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:15 PM (gmeXX)
With respect, sir/madam, I submit that the Off-Year Election of Aught Fourteen must be referred to as a 'shellacking' whenever mentioned in polite conversation.
Pretty sure it was written into the AOS stylebook. One of the later chapters...
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, Team Let it Burn is alive and well folks at December 04, 2014 03:18 PM (9LuAk)
Posted by: GMan at December 04, 2014 03:18 PM (sxq57)
Posted by: Thatch
The standard response is that the media will spin any shutdown against the Republicans. While true, its a lame excuse. You will always be fighting the media. Fight to win. Lay the groundwork to win. Do what Thatch suggests and call a friggin press conference to lay out what you're doing in advance. And get out there everywhere you can to explain it. Stop friggin hiding under your desks.
Posted by: Duke at December 04, 2014 03:19 PM (ChY2Q)
Posted by: zombie george harrison at December 04, 2014 03:19 PM (2ZvEW)
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Some of us get the pleasure of actually casting a vote for Cruz and not casting it for Cornyn.
So I have that going for me.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:19 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Jeh Johnson at December 04, 2014 03:19 PM (wAQA5)
Feel free to steal it...
Would LOVE to see a youtube video....
Posted by: The Big Bad Wof, by request at December 04, 2014 03:19 PM (f0pWu)
The Hillary song thread was more fun.
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Oh, I've had friends in Libyan places,
where spontaneous demonstrators take, or maybe rapeses,
your life away.
But it's OK.
'cause
I've got no fear of press inquiries.
They're corrupt as me,
and nearly as liar-y.
Oh, I've had friends, in Libyan places.
Posted by: Hillary Brooks at December 04, 2014 03:20 PM (8GKDa)
Kinda ballsy on his part either way.
PVeritas Action @PVeritas_Action 3m
BREAKING: New @JamesOKeefeIII video exposes serious string of prosecutoral misconduct at US Attorney and DOJ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxEC0vLlGA #tcot
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 04, 2014 03:20 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 04, 2014 03:20 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 04, 2014 03:20 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: the u.s. constitution at December 04, 2014 03:20 PM (2ZvEW)
So, you True Cons still want another shutdown? Don't you remember what the last one did to us?
And the alternative is?
I suspect that it's something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=l-rNIAN5o5M#t=17
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2014 03:21 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: GMan at December 04, 2014 03:18 PM (sxq57)
That's it for me. No more. If one of the GOP-e stooges gets the nomination, I will stay home - even if the ticket is Bernie Sanders/Keith Ellison.
Fuck it all.
I. Have. Had. Enough.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:21 PM (CMkNk)
Ace started to see it quite a bit the last two years until there was an election coming up and then those of us who continued to recognize the uselessness of the Boehner McConnell axis were suicidal crazy people he is put upon to talk off the ledge.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2014 03:21 PM (A6vWB)
They always did, the only difference is that president Obama figured out a way to get them to the ballots whereas before they sat home most of the time.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 04, 2014 03:22 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 04, 2014 03:22 PM (XzRw1)
White House aggressively lobbying Congress against Iran sanction, but leaving door open to sanctions on Israel bit.ly/1yrQmb7
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 04, 2014 03:22 PM (ZPrif)
Wow. O'Keefe is the human equivalent of a Wild Weasel aircraft.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:22 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: The Big Bad Wof, by request at December 04, 2014 03:16 PM (f0pWu)
I'm so damned tempted to find a couple of backing vocals toss up some voice tracks spliced with a karaoke version of the original song and post it to Youtube.
Stuff's freakin' gold.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, Team Let it Burn is alive and well folks at December 04, 2014 03:22 PM (9LuAk)
And I mean it.
Posted by: Shoot Me Faster at December 04, 2014 03:23 PM (Q3tFF)
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:23 PM (gmeXX)
Please, people. Stop referring to the GOP-e as "stupid."
They're "complicit" and that's a very different thing entirely.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:23 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Draki at December 04, 2014 03:24 PM (0eidE)
If the Republicans are not willing to lose their jobs -
by actually doing their job, which they swore an oath to do, and which they begged the public to be allowed to do-
then they have no business being employed in that job.
How many states have recall for those losers who want to go along with this lame-ass charade?
A good case can be made that they are violating their oath of office.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 04, 2014 03:24 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2014 03:25 PM (ahULV)
Posted by: brak at December 04, 2014 03:25 PM (Tj+s6)
Please, people. Stop referring to the GOP-e as "stupid."
They're "complicit" and that's a very different thing entirely.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Ding. Ding. Ding. Jeb Bush isn't the only one who hates actual conservatives.
Posted by: Duke at December 04, 2014 03:26 PM (ChY2Q)
I mean, fellas, if it is not signed it holds the same weight as toilet paper (not even taking into account legal/Constitution/Congress issue).
I sort of want this clarified toot sweet.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 04, 2014 03:26 PM (dMEBN)
Free Beacon @FreeBeacon 2m
FYI --> http://goo.gl/sEK3Ai RT @ByronTau: Donté Stallworth is among the White House press corps today.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 04, 2014 03:26 PM (ZPrif)
116
Screw the GOP. Let it burn!
Posted by: Draki at December 04, 2014 03:24 PM (0eidE)
*nods sagely*
Let it Burn: not an expression of intent, but an acknowledgement of reality.
Shit's already on fire.
Idiotic populace and malicious wannabe societal elites in D.C. keep beating us away from the fire hydrant and fire hose.
Let it burn.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, Team Let it Burn is alive and well folks at December 04, 2014 03:26 PM (9LuAk)
Is there anything a citizen can do to make the elected officials conform to the will of the people absent violence?
Or are we left with printing guillotines?
Posted by: Tj at December 04, 2014 03:27 PM (FBjP7)
I love you guys. I'll see you in a year or so when I need your votes again. Until then....bend over!
Posted by: John Boehner at December 04, 2014 03:27 PM (8LT/S)
Posted by: Yakov Jackov at December 04, 2014 03:27 PM (Q3tFF)
re: sidebar
New Terminator movie? sigh, I'll admit, I'll watch it
Posted by: brak at December 04, 2014 03:25 PM (Tj+s6)
Upon reflection, maybe giving the T-800 the skin of a senior citizen wasn't the brightest move.......
Posted by: SkyNet at December 04, 2014 03:27 PM (TIIx5)
This is where it may fail. My reading of Gruber is that they wrote the ACA that way to trick the smart American voter. Gruber thought that voters were too stupid to agree to such an amazingly good idea as Obamacare, true, but he also thought they were smart enough to recognize Obamacare as something they disagreed with if it had been written in a straightforward manner.
Boehner really is assuming that voters aren't smart enough to see what he's doing. Despite my Tom Harkin snark above, Boehner isn't doing anything convoluted, just stupid.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 04, 2014 03:28 PM (J0IP0)
"Maybe the Conservative members of the GOP will stage a coup?"
Should have happened a looooongggggg time ago.
Posted by: Augusto Pinochet at December 04, 2014 03:28 PM (tET5T)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 04, 2014 03:28 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: dedomeno at December 04, 2014 03:28 PM (UccCH)
I. Have. Had. Enough.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:21 PM
C'mon now, J.J. These guys simply need time to work out all the petty details. Boner knows Choom Boy is terrified when he hears the powerful Voice of the Wild Chee-To ringing out from the House floor
Besides, in two years we can complete the Conservative Revolution by following Poppin' Fresh's wish that we elect Rockin' Rick Santorum! After that, it'll be as if President Historic First's© regime never happened....
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 04, 2014 03:28 PM (yAC3X)
Congress isn't. The House did. Now it goes to Harry Reid's Senate where it will be promptly shitcanned.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 04, 2014 03:28 PM (g1DWB)
And I mean it.
Posted by: Shoot Me Faster at December 04, 2014 03:23 PM (Q3tFF)
Yeah.... lets let him set Precedents that destroy the Constitution, so OUR TEAM can win the next election...
And do.... nothing...
Yeah.... great F'n plan...
Posted by: The Big Bad Wof, by request at December 04, 2014 03:28 PM (f0pWu)
I am thinking, which is dangerous, that Boehner is stalling. Is this not the same threat, to sue, he had before the GOP won the majority? Stall until January third Twenty Fifteen Eleventy.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 04, 2014 03:29 PM (dMEBN)
To be honest, they have help not seeing it.
Posted by: MSM at December 04, 2014 03:29 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: Lena Dunham, Undressed at December 04, 2014 03:29 PM (UlJ3l)
Is there anything a citizen can do to make the elected officials conform to the will of the people absent violence?
Or are we left with printing guillotines?
Posted by: Tj at December 04, 2014 03:27 PM (FBjP7)
It would take a march on Washington of perhaps 1 million people. Not for a day but for a prolonged period of time. Peaceful, but persistent.
If this country is going down - and it is - then almost everything else in our collective lives has to take a back seat.
I'd go in a heartbeat. Make these Occupy and Mike Brown assholes shit themselves when they see what a REAL peaceful mass movement looks like.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:30 PM (CMkNk)
Got us a huge landslide victory that overturned congress? I mean I don't think there's causation but there's no way of arguing it hurt any.
Not that it matters, the GOP leadership won't allow another.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 04, 2014 03:31 PM (39g3+)
paper (not even taking into account legal/Constitution/Congress issue).
The story I've seen (and I'm assuming it the one viz Judicial Watch you're talking about) isn't that nothing was signed, but that it was a DHS memo (with Jeh Johnson's signature) rather than an executive order.
So it totally isn't obama committing an impeachable offense *wink*
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2014 03:31 PM (A6vWB)
ah hell, there's no end to this. The possibilities are infinite.
Posted by: Dr Pine's House of Pie at December 04, 2014 03:31 PM (sl1UH)
Posted by: Draki at December 04, 2014 03:31 PM (0eidE)
Posted by: Shoot Me Faster at December 04, 2014 03:32 PM (Q3tFF)
Somehow, the notion that Doughboy likes Rick Santorum makes no sense.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:32 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's ending at December 04, 2014 03:32 PM (rwI+c)
Ken Cucinelli, not the governor of VA, begs to differ.
What helped the Republicans in November and will continue to help them if they are smart enough is the continuing train wreck known as Obamacare and the shitty economy.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 04, 2014 03:33 PM (g1DWB)
Surrendering doesn't even make you sweat.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 04, 2014 03:33 PM (xSCb6)
also, whatever it obie's gonna do, it hasn't hit fed reg yet, so who knows.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at December 04, 2014 03:34 PM (kso21)
Here is Jeff Sessions on Levin telling him about the JEF plan for new building to give illegals IDS
SSNs etc
Posted by: Carol at December 04, 2014 03:34 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Burn the Witch
I'm sweating right now. Look.
Posted by: Lena Dunham, Undressed at December 04, 2014 03:34 PM (UlJ3l)
No, because they are passing the spending bills for NEXT year, right now.
And if his amnesty is FUNDED... then it is a Fait Accompli....
The DHS is hiring 1000 new agents in Virginia to implement this crap... RIGHT NOW...
Posted by: The Big Bad Wof, by request at December 04, 2014 03:34 PM (f0pWu)
I'm reasonably sure that's exactly what the GOP leadership has in mind. Do as little as possible, keep their heads down, and let President Obama go nuts, relying on that to help win in 2016. Its what the Democrats did mostly in 2006-2008 and it worked well for them.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 04, 2014 03:34 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: John 'Gruber' Boehner at December 04, 2014 03:34 PM (NUCTk)
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 04, 2014 03:34 PM (o2Jt2)
Posted by: Shoot Me Faster at December 04, 2014 03:32 PM (Q3tFF)
The election was a clarion call to STOP Amnesty, Obamacare and the Democrats. And yet in order to do that, the government would have to have a shutdown - which it wouldn't since 83-85% would still be open and entitlement checks would still go out.
So, what're you saying?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:35 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2014 03:31 PM (A6vWB)
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If it's true, then Hitleresque. That's more or less how he did things.
Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2014 03:35 PM (ahULV)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:32 PM
Pretty sure he was pimpin' pretty hard for Teh Rickster back in '08....
Or was it TPaw?
All those Midwestern, dull, glassy-eyed dudes look the same to me.
Don't recall who he anointed in '12, as I was no longer stopping in for my daily dose of Conservative Surrender-Monkeyism.
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 04, 2014 03:36 PM (yAC3X)
And we thought things were going to change. Going to be ALOT of disappointed people the next 2 years
No disappointment here. I knew as soon as the ignorant fucktards in OH re-elected Boehner this nation was doomed.
Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 04, 2014 03:36 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 04, 2014 03:36 PM (rwI+c)
the people hurt by a government shut down don't vote republican.
Posted by: kj at December 04, 2014 03:36 PM (lKyWE)
Wait, so you're trying to argue... that the federal government shutdown in congress... hurt a governor's chances of being elected? A guy completely unrelated to the shutdown? In a year when Republicans won huge nearly everywhere?
Please do explain your logic here.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 04, 2014 03:36 PM (39g3+)
I don't know, I think the fight between actual Ahnold, and young dude who looks like Ahnold could be pretty epic.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2014 03:36 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: wth at December 04, 2014 03:36 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2014 03:36 PM (ABcz/)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 04, 2014 03:34 PM (39g3+)
The problem is, we can't lay low while SCOAMF goes nuts for the next 2 years. Everything the D's do with GOP help ratchets the nation ever-leftward.
This laying low thing is nonsense. Time for action.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:37 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's ending at December 04, 2014 03:32 PM (rwI+c)
....so it begins.
Posted by: the other guy who always thinks its beginning at December 04, 2014 03:37 PM (9LuAk)
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Speaking for myself, I certainly didn't expect a lot to change in the next 2 years. Its divided government. But nor did I expect complicity either. I think immigration is a much bigger winner for the GOP than they really imagine. I honestly don't know if they are blind to it or have been fed so much fear of the Hispanic vote that they just refuse to believe it.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:37 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: the u.s. constitution at December 04, 2014 03:20 PM (2ZvEW)
I can't breathe!
Posted by: Living breathing constitution at December 04, 2014 03:37 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: MTF at December 04, 2014 03:38 PM (LISuA)
Flames....one the side....of my face!!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2014 03:36 PM (ABcz/)
Are you channeling Alan Arkin from "The In-Laws?"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:38 PM (CMkNk)
Actually, I have to cop to this being true in my case on occasion....
But there are reasons for it dammit!
I can't believe what a spiral this nation has been on in the last decade and a half.
Silly me, I thought things would get BETTER once Billy Jeff was gon.
Posted by: FITP at December 04, 2014 03:38 PM (yOXTP)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 04, 2014 03:34 PM (39g3+)
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This bill won't see the light of day in the senate as long as the pederast presides. Now what?
Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2014 03:38 PM (ahULV)
Posted by: John 'Gruber' McCain at December 04, 2014 03:38 PM (Qgr71)
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Has anyone ever been actually hurt by a government shutdown?
Seems like the government employees get a paid vacation.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:39 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 04, 2014 03:34 PM (39g3+)
Problem is that when Republicans go nuts... they do it against Foreign Nations...
When the Democrats go nuts... they take our Rights and Liberties...
Posted by: The Big Bad Wof, by request at December 04, 2014 03:39 PM (f0pWu)
It's like we're in a chapter of the Book of Judges, here. Someone just turn the page already, I'm weary of the buildup and would prefer to skip to the catastrophe as soon as possible.
"In those days Israel had no king; everyone did as they saw fit."
That would be next, wouldn't it.
Posted by: Chocolate Sprinkled CM at December 04, 2014 03:40 PM (0NdlF)
Hands up! Don't shoot! Posted by: the u.s. constitution at December 04, 2014 03:20 PM (2ZvEW) I can't breathe!
don't taze me bro
Posted by: article one at December 04, 2014 03:40 PM (lKyWE)
leadership has in mind. Do as little as possible, keep their heads
down, and let President Obama go nuts, relying on that to help win in
2016. Its what the Democrats did mostly in 2006-2008 and it worked well
for them.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 04, 2014 03:34 PM
Oooooh, I'm so relieved! They have a PLAN!
I hope the GOPe is thrilled when they win power in what little will be left of a once great, thriving country in '16. It'll probably be only a little worse than, say, Afghanistan.
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 04, 2014 03:40 PM (yAC3X)
So it totally isn't obama committing an impeachable offense *wink*
............................
Nobody's talking about impeachment. Are they? Because that would not be a good idea. What we're trying to do here is repeal the tanning tax.
Posted by: John Boehner at December 04, 2014 03:41 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: ejo at December 04, 2014 03:41 PM (rsGj7)
Posted by: that guy that always thinks this is it at December 04, 2014 03:41 PM (Ua6T/)
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Has anyone ever been actually hurt by a government shutdown?
Seems like the government employees get a paid vacation.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:39 PM (gmeXX)
NO ONE IS HURT. Entitlement checks go out and enough income comes in to pay our pension and other obligations.
This is a myth that needs busting.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:41 PM (CMkNk)
Simply understanding this is very liberating, you stop worrying, you stop hoping and being hurt, you stop being disappointed and feeling betrayed. They're politicians, they're going to be that way no matter what. Voting for the shinier scorpion in November didn't make them any less scorpions.
Work locally. Focus on your family, your neighborhood, your town, your county. Change where you are and be ready for the troubles ahead.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 04, 2014 03:42 PM (39g3+)
I'm not. He did. As did his campaign manager and everyone watching as it was happening.
>Most voters questioned in the poll say neither candidate bears any responsibility for the partial government shutdown, but of the 13% who pointed fingers, 47% blame Cuccinelli and only 7% blame McAuliffe. And McAuliffe leads Cuccinelli by 15 points among likely voters affected by, or know someone affected by, the shutdown.
>The shutdown is definitely motivating some voters against Cuccinelli, who already had a Tea Party problem with Independents and business-minded Republicans, said Quentin Kidd, director of the Wason Center.
http://tinyurl.com/ldhomhk
There were article after article like this during the election, many quoting Cuccinelli or his campaign team, noting that VA was particularly susceptible to the shutdown because of its proximity to DC.
I'm ok with a shutdown now, I don't see it helping but I don't see it doing much for us either.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 04, 2014 03:42 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: kj at December 04, 2014 03:42 PM (lKyWE)
This is a myth that needs busting.
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I'm thinking this country could benefit from a 2 year shutdown.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:43 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 04, 2014 03:42 PM (39g3+)
And on that cheery note . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:43 PM (CMkNk)
and so it ends
Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's ending at December 04, 2014 03:32 PM (rwI+c)
....so it begins.
Posted by: the other guy who always thinks its beginning at December 04, 2014 03:37 PM (9LuAk)
Simmer down guys. Not the hill to muss up your hair on.
Posted by: GOPe at December 04, 2014 03:43 PM (sDapq)
I've had enough of their nonsensical votes, they are symbolic & they're stupid. Keep it up GOPe & wel will split party from Republican to Comservatives. That's all, if you have no choice other than RINO vote for the.
In the meantime, we have to find more like Sessions & Cruz, Lee to lead.
Enzi is challenging Sessions on Finance Committee as punishment for speaking the truth!
Posted by: Carol at December 04, 2014 03:43 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: the u.s. constitution at December 04, 2014 03:20 PM (2ZvEW)
I can't breathe!
Posted by: Living breathing constitution at December 04, 2014 03:37 PM (W5DcG)
I'll just get out of my car to talk to that idiot with the gavel hitting it.
Posted by: the bill of rights at December 04, 2014 03:44 PM (2ZvEW)
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 04, 2014 03:44 PM (rwI+c)
"I knew as soon as the ignorant fucktards in OH re-elected Boehner this nation was doomed."
It was the election of JEF in 08' or re-election in 12' it was the Rep election in Ohio. Ah, yeah. Because the democrat would have beenthe better choice. Um. No.
So which European soccer team do you play for? The way you whine, it must in the UEFA league.
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 04, 2014 03:44 PM (tET5T)
You can shove your symbolic gestures, Boehner. We gave you and the other Republicans real power, and we expect you to use it.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 04, 2014 03:44 PM (2ruKl)
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That actually is the key. Finding a couple more Cruz/Lee senators will actually make a huge difference. I hope they can help find them.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:45 PM (gmeXX)
1) The Dems want the GOP divided (to share their pain of losing). Why give them this gift vs mocking them endlessly? Why?
2) The GOP could pass a million laws countering this right now from the House, and Reid would stop it as he has done with 300 other bills, and repeat,rinse, spit, hurl. They do not have the majority until January 2015.
3) This is all sort of theater. Go cut your toenails or write Hillary country songs. Maybe write a sad country song about how Hillary can no longer cut her toenails due to her expanding gut. I'll be damned if I am going to get a zit worrying about this crap.
4) You should be enjoying the holidays, winter, riots, chocolate, gin, Mexican food, a book, barbeque potato chips, Rocky Road ice cream, fires, your bunk, football, music, your Fiat (by the way, I am really tired of that word used to describe obarky's pretend law that talking heads keep using...like the other words that catch on and are used until I want to screech like Hillary finding lipstick on Bill's collar). Where was I? Enjoy. Breath(e). Drink. Be Merry. BUT STOP FREAKING OUT. I mean, are you mice or morons?
5) I will give the new GOP majority Congress, oh, about a month, before I start my campaign. I will give the final sic 'em. So, chill. xoxo
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 04, 2014 03:45 PM (dMEBN)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:45 PM (CMkNk)
Simply understanding this is very liberating, you stop worrying, you stop hoping and being hurt, you stop being disappointed and feeling betrayed. They're politicians, they're going to be that way no matter what. Voting for the shinier scorpion in November didn't make them any less scorpions.
I did this in 2012, and I will second it as the correct response to current events.
"Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27 Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?"
Posted by: Chocolate Sprinkled CM at December 04, 2014 03:46 PM (0NdlF)
So according to a legacy media news source, 13% of the people they actually reached with a poll actually had an opinion on the topic, and of them less than half somehow held the governor responsible for actions taken by an entirely unrelated group of people.
And you think that tiny percentage is what cost him the election? In a wave election for the Republican party? Couldn't it have just been he sucked or was a bad campaigner? Color me utterly unconvinced.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 04, 2014 03:46 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at December 04, 2014 03:46 PM (YYJjz)
We could take up a collection and pay for their airfare.
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 04, 2014 03:47 PM (tET5T)
Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 04, 2014 03:47 PM (XzRw1)
As far as the amnesty goes, I think the best hope is to target the businesses that hire people with these new green cards and SSNs. And go hard after the CoC and Business Roundtable types. You want more cheap labor? Fine, I want confiscatory corporate taxes to pay for it.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 04, 2014 03:47 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 04, 2014 03:48 PM (W5DcG)
Are Canucks an option? It'll be hilarious to watch 'em apologize while they do it, too.
"Sorry about the burning, eh?"
Posted by: Chocolate Sprinkled CM at December 04, 2014 03:48 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Carol at December 04, 2014 03:43 PM (sj3Ax)
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No. In these times we need to strengthen our local and state governments with people who'll stand up to the fed. Perhaps be willing to start foregoing federal funds in order to keep a semblance of Constitutional freedom.
The word "sacrifice" is going to have to start being used now. For myself, freedom is worth the sacrifice.
Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2014 03:49 PM (ahULV)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at December 04, 2014 03:49 PM (kso21)
The word "sacrifice" is going to have to start being used now. For myself, freedom is worth the sacrifice.
Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2014 03:49 PM (ahULV)
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Can't we do both?
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:49 PM (gmeXX)
At least the Hilary thread wasn't depressing.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:45 PM (CMkNk)
Gallows humour
Posted by: The Big Bad Wof, by request at December 04, 2014 03:50 PM (f0pWu)
Posted by: Ur Vote Mattah! at December 04, 2014 03:50 PM (JOFI1)
do the british still have an army?
Posted by: kj at December 04, 2014 03:51 PM (lKyWE)
I think the healthiest, most useful thing for everyone is to realize that its over. There's no more "one last chance"s. There's no way of turning this thing around. We aren't rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic, its sunk and we're on life rafts. Get past the hope that maybe the right group of guys using the right tactics can save the republic. We're past that point. Its not happening.
...................
No way, we're gonna pay back that 18 trillion on Tuesday, so can I have another hamburger?
Posted by: wth at December 04, 2014 03:51 PM (wAQA5)
Sandbags: the overlooked necessity.
Posted by: toby928(C)
Quicklime and a backhoe.....
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2014 03:51 PM (vToAr)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8mqAyVU01E
I thought was interesting.
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 03:51 PM (cNHGF)
So the House sends an official note to Obama by way of a bill that they don't like his exec. order on immigration.
Why? Because until Jan. they have no power. ANYTHING they send to the Senate gets thrown again into the circular file.
This is exactly like the 50 times the House passed a repeal of Obamacare and Harry Reid tossed it in the can in the men's room.
This simply gets their house members on record as wagging a finger at Obama. It's symbolic, like a lot of the stuff done in Washington.
When January comes, we will then see who is serious. Yes, they can send continuing resolutions, appropriation bills, etc. but those have to be passed by the Senate...which is controlled by guess who right now.
And if he throws those in the can, all you'll hear is how the Republicans shut down the govt. blah blah blah, because Reid will be who the MSM run to with the mics....
Posted by: Jen the original at December 04, 2014 03:52 PM (oOlEN)
Which is to me a sign that he wasn't a very good politician.
"I'm reasonably sure that's exactly what the GOP
leadership has in mind. Do as little as possible, keep their heads down, and let President Obama go nuts, relying on that to help win in 2016. Its what the Democrats did mostly in 2006-2008 and it worked well for them. "
I agree with you, that is what they'd like to do. It won't work. Schumer's shown the drift of the wind. In 2016 Democrats will run against Washington DC. They'll blame Obama for failing the promise. They'll equate society with big federal government. They'll claim centralized planning will share the prosperity, except Obama and the Republicans screwed it up. They'll run the Obama 2008 message without Obama. And Republicans will be left giving the John Kerry moan: "I voted for freedom, before I voted against it"
Posted by: Chris Balsz at December 04, 2014 03:52 PM (pYEaj)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:45 PM (CMkNk)
You mean to tell me that knowing that there's someone out there that would put together something like that didn't make you lose all faith in humanity?
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 04, 2014 03:52 PM (nFdGS)
When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, your future
No future, no future, there's no future for you
No future, no future, no future for me
Posted by: Citizen X at December 04, 2014 03:52 PM (7ObY1)
Canadians. 1812 Part Deaux.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2014 03:53 PM (vToAr)
Cooch was already going down before the shutdown and national republicans were being stupid as usual with Virginia (see Gillespie).
The shutdown predictions about this November from liberal republicans never came to pass because there is no lasting damage with a shutdown. But Boehner is stuck on this stupid logic and is refusing to fight the Democrats. Any lawsuit will be laughed out of court.
The only power the congress has to effectively stop this is to NOT GIVE THEM THE FUNDS!
Posted by: NWConservative at December 04, 2014 03:53 PM (/gWRy)
I gave you one article. As I said there are many. If you want to find one with quotes from Cuccinelli and his team then google Cuccinelli shutdown and read yourself.
I don't know why some of you deny this hurts Republicans. Shutdowns always have. Professional election watchers like Sean Trende note this all the time. Sometimes the damage is worth it and sometimes there are other circumstances that overwhelm it like Obamacare but they are always a negative for Republicans.
As I said, this time I am for it although I would rather wait until January when we control both Houses but its time to put a stake in the ground. And at least then we can have a united Congress to fight Obama.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 04, 2014 03:53 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: John Boehner at December 04, 2014 03:53 PM (8ZskC)
sorry.... but some of us swore upon our honor, to God, to defend this Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic.
Watching the Constitution go down in flames... because the GOPe WANTS amnesty....
AS I PREDICTED.... PRIOR to the Election...
Really... really... pisses me off.
Posted by: The Big Bad Wof, by request at December 04, 2014 03:54 PM (f0pWu)
Every time I get an email from Boehner, I send back a simple reply:
Impeach or shut the fuck up.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2014 03:54 PM (A6vWB)
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that's good enough for me, we're going to have to let obama get away with this or we may drive moderates from the party and lose 2014 elections.
signed, xxoo
john boehner
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at December 04, 2014 03:54 PM (kso21)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 04, 2014 03:55 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: deepelemblues at December 04, 2014 03:55 PM (0HwCJ)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 04, 2014 03:55 PM (KK+mC)
Well, it apparently gave us the current losers that you're currently bitching about. Worth it!
Posted by: Shoot Me at December 04, 2014 03:55 PM (EQcfE)
Posted by: Chocolate Sprinkled CM at December 04, 2014 03:56 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Millard Fillmore at December 04, 2014 03:56 PM (UlJ3l)
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this is a joke, right?
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at December 04, 2014 03:56 PM (kso21)
I agree. Which means we should probably wait for the funding bills and not a totally unrelated protest bill to see what happens, right?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 04, 2014 03:56 PM (g1DWB)
In a way I am with you. I doubt the shutdown hurt the GOP, though I doubt it actually helped. But that is the point, its sort of neutral. Sure there may be a few casualties, but there will also be GOP winners. Let's assume it is small loss for the GOP - then do it. Its the only way to cut something.
I'll give the Dems credit. They actually took a risk when they had the power. Sure it may have cost them for a generation, but they took that risk. If we are confident in our policies we should do the same.
If we truly believe that Obamacare is the drag on our economy that it is, then it is worth a 120 day shutdown to eliminate.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:56 PM (gmeXX)
The supervising Sargent at the scene but not in the video was a black female!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Avi at December 04, 2014 03:57 PM (Gx3Fe)
Posted by: Jeb Bush at December 04, 2014 03:57 PM (UlJ3l)
No one said just voting would save us. Certainly not the AoSHQ bloggers. Getting better people in place improves our ability to make opportunities to get better and to take advantage of opportunities as they arise.
For example, with a Republican-led Senate and House, we could have exempted more people from the ACA last year when those competing bills were running around codifying what the President claimed he meant.
That sort of thing will still happen. But this blog has been honest with you that the process will be one of blood, sweat, toil, and tears.
Posted by: Winston Price Churchill at December 04, 2014 03:57 PM (J0IP0)
Control of the Senate and a bigger margin in the House, as I recall.
Posted by: Citizen X at December 04, 2014 03:57 PM (7ObY1)
You really don't understand what is going on...
They are setting spending for NEXT year, right now.
Once that bill passes, they will NOT revisit it... it will be law...
And even IF the House passes something later... there are not enough Repub votes in the Senate, to over ride a Veto of the law, which would supercede the existing spending bill, they are voting on right now.
So they therefore CEDE the Power of the Purse...
Posted by: The Big Bad Wof, by request at December 04, 2014 03:57 PM (f0pWu)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 03:58 PM (cNHGF)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 04, 2014 03:58 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 03:49 PM (gmeXX)
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I don't think DC is going to change until the states start rebelling. The establishment elite has complete control of the fed now. We can send good people to congress till the cows come home, but the deep-seated corruption that is in DC will stomp them down every time.
Having said this, I will say that I'll watch to see what happens to, oh, around April or May to see if I might be wrong. But something tells me I'm right.
Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2014 03:59 PM (ahULV)
Just remember, Hot Pockets are for eating, not for raping
Posted by: Citizen X at December 04, 2014 03:59 PM (7ObY1)
do the british still have an army?
Russians still have nukes and would probably cost less.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2014 03:59 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: big mick at December 04, 2014 03:59 PM (q+zA9)
congress is sworn in?
Posted by: Carol at December 04, 2014 03:59 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 04, 2014 03:59 PM (KK+mC)
I like cheese...
Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 04, 2014 03:55 PM (ZKzrr)
Great Warner Bros. cartoon reference.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:59 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:00 PM (cNHGF)
What was their platform?
Posted by: big mick at December 04, 2014 03:59 PM (q+zA9)
The one with the trap door. Under the noose.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:00 PM (CMkNk)
I like cheese...
Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 04, 2014 03:55 PM (ZKzrr)
Great Warner Bros. cartoon reference.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 03:59 PM (CMkNk)
Pinky!
Posted by: The Brain (who is smarter than the entire GOPe) at December 04, 2014 04:01 PM (f0pWu)
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Its almost as if this mysterious force in our economy causes producers to produce something that consumer don't have time or desire to produce on their own and find a way to make money off a very simple process.
But just wait until the government gets involved. Did they post how many calories are in those eggs? If not, I'm not sure they can legally sell them.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 04:01 PM (gmeXX)
The women on this blog appear to have more, um, intestinal fortitude than some of you limp-spined fear-mongers. It is not time to fight (yet). Rest on your Laurel(s) (if you have a wife or gf named Laurel. Rest on a couple of them if you are into polygamy).
It is time to gain strength for the real fight ahead, not to go whining off to Doomsville, farhting meekly in a corner sucking your thumb and weeping.
Thank God you were not fighting the British at Valley Forge, whining about the cold...or the Battle of the Bulge with frost-bitten toes...or with my Daddy in Peleliu...or on D-Day, whining because of fog or feeling queasy as your boat hit Utah Beach with my great-uncle. Americans have been through far worse than this prancercizing petunia pretender. Buck up.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 04, 2014 04:02 PM (dMEBN)
Posted by: Otter at December 04, 2014 04:02 PM (JtwS4)
Fop-Wu? I prefer Wo-Hop.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:02 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: TVoC Hates the GOP at December 04, 2014 04:02 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:00 PM (cNHGF)
Really Honey, I won't hit you again... promise....
Posted by: John Boehner to the Base at December 04, 2014 04:02 PM (f0pWu)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 04, 2014 03:58 PM (2cS/G)
IT'S Glutin Free !!!!
now go get a shotgun
Posted by: Joe Biden, War Chief at December 04, 2014 04:02 PM (q+zA9)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:02 PM (cNHGF)
Any other action only continues the cycle.
Leave the party. Stop caring what they do or say.
Refuse their apologies. Refuse their promises.
Refuse to let them back in the door.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 04, 2014 04:03 PM (KK+mC)
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I agree with you for long term change. But I think it would be great to find a couple more Cruz/Lee types. They will further push the Senate to the right.
But for real change, I agree completely with you. It needs to come from the bottom up.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 04:03 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 04, 2014 04:03 PM (2cS/G)
Safer than selling loosies.
Posted by: fluffy at December 04, 2014 04:03 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Otter at December 04, 2014 04:02 PM (JtwS4)
You mean like a few hundred thousand of us storm Congress and the White House and arrest everyone there?
Stupid? Maybe. Futile? Not if it succeeds.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:03 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Lauren at December 04, 2014 04:04 PM (BPMYx)
Safer than selling loosies.
Posted by: fluffy at December 04, 2014 04:03 PM (Ua6T/)
A dozen eggs in NYC cost about $400 dollars, with co-signers.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:04 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 04, 2014 03:56 PM (g1DWB)
So by them passing NEXT year's spending now is not a problem? They are doing this sham voting to try and cover for that yearlong spending bill with four months of funding for homeland security, so they can try to hand out all the amnesty cards they can before funding is taken away from them.
They are being stupid dumbasses trying to do this crap now instead of waiting until January, ONE MONTH, to pass spending bills. I think we can shut down the government until the GOP takes the senate then.
Until then, any funding bill allowing Obama to enact his dictatorship is defacto aiding him.
Posted by: NWConservative at December 04, 2014 04:04 PM (/gWRy)
Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2014 04:05 PM (DL2i+)
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That is a good start. I'm not sure they have standing, but they must have more standing than Congress. Good luck to them.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 04:05 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair, wearing "pants" at December 04, 2014 04:05 PM (J0IP0)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:00 PM (cNHGF)
Really Honey, I won't hit you again... promise....
Obama meant nothing to me. I just get fucked by him. I love you.
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:05 PM (cNHGF)
Posted by: Cryin' Boehner at December 04, 2014 04:06 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:02 PM (cNHGF)
Favorite scene from Cromwell is Richard Harris confronting King Charles when he dissolves Parliament:
"Sir! By your action here today, you have brought this nation to the brink of civil war!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:06 PM (CMkNk)
You really do seem to think the GOP's very well-established pattern is going to change.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 04, 2014 04:06 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 04, 2014 04:03 PM (2cS/G)
**********
Gawd--this place is a bad influence.
Immediately--
"just the tip" popped in my head.
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at December 04, 2014 04:06 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 04, 2014 04:06 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:06 PM (CMkNk)
03:58 PM (2cS/G)
Hope you bought extra tp also.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
And matches.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2014 04:06 PM (vToAr)
I used to think he was a classmate of one of the 12.
Write an Obit on his ass and you were banned.
Remember RR telling the base how wrong it was to condemn a fellow conservative, that was when we actually had identifiable, party , affiliated conservatives.
Now go figure.
Not voting the trash out because you feel broken is like sitting in your own feces, with a clean pair of BVD's with the punch of a button.
Vote, Vote, Vote
And a Pox on their house.
Posted by: Piedmont Pine Nut at December 04, 2014 04:07 PM (/WmRg)
All you Wait Until January types are so cute.
You really do seem to think the GOP's very well-established pattern is going to change.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 04, 2014 04:06 PM (xSCb6)
Yes, I am very cute. Now get off my lawn.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 04, 2014 04:07 PM (dMEBN)
Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2014 04:07 PM (DL2i+)
2. Get re-elected.
3. ???
4. Profit!
Posted by: GOPe Gnomes at December 04, 2014 02:57 PM (RnSfY)
I don't think I have ever seen any joke ring so true!
BASTARDS ALL!!!
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 04, 2014 04:07 PM (znT2j)
Pass a budget that doesn't fund Obamas illegal action and the senate will do what?
Next year when we have the senate they will pass it and TFG will veto.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at December 04, 2014 04:08 PM (R8hU8)
Posted by: daninmichigan at December 04, 2014 04:08 PM (2yD4G)
You really do seem to think the GOP's very well-established pattern is going to change.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 04, 2014 04:06 PM (xSCb6)
I think last month, we knew full well. And that was the most depressing thing of all.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:08 PM (CMkNk)
I sum up:
I say this.
RINOS say that.
I provide a helpful chart of what they can do with their comments.
RINOS inform me of their opinion of my parentage, intellect and morals.
Boobehs.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 04, 2014 04:08 PM (mf5HN)
Come to the suburbs. We have space & cheap eggs.
Posted by: fluffy at December 04, 2014 04:08 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 04, 2014 04:02 PM (dMEBN)
And you served? where exactly?
I did...
as does my Son.... and my Father in WW2 and Korea... and my Gfather in WW1... and multiple ancestors all the way back to Valley Forge...
So because I don't trust the GOP, and see them surrendering without a fight...
You call ME a COWARD???
I cannot say, what I am thinking... it would get me banned.
Posted by: John Boehner to the Base at December 04, 2014 04:08 PM (f0pWu)
The lawsuit raises three objections: that Obama violated the "Take Care Clause" of the U.S. Constitution that limits the scope of presidential power; that the federal government violated rulemaking procedures; and that the order will "exacerbate the humanitarian crisis along the southern border, which will affect increased state investment in law enforcement, health care and education."
Posted by: Lauren at December 04, 2014 04:08 PM (BPMYx)
*ahem*
Sir, that's a nice sentiment and all, but for humans to eat, we need money. We had a good thing going right up until you let Satan loose inside my country.
What did I do to get all the shit I've gotten these past two decades or so? I did my best to learn a craft, then some asshole I didn't vote for decides to give that whole economic sector away TO OUR FUCKING ENEMIES!!!
We're supposed to be governing ourselves, but we have a select powerful few deciding who we get to vote for behind closed doors. We only have the appearance of choosing our representatives, and when we pick them to act in our place in Washington, they stab us in the back, hop in their limos and head off to some party where more money will be spent than I've made in the last ten years.
Where's the sense in that? I know we've been a bit lax on keeping Your Covenant, but seriously, isn't there Something You can Do to maybe stop some of this shit so we can get back on the right track again?
Sincerely,
One of Your kids
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 04, 2014 04:09 PM (0HooB)
If Cruz just keeps his crazy mouth shut this time we'll win."
Yes, it's RINO criticism that is keeping Cruz from winning, not his own inflated sense of ego. And certainly not his poorly thought out actions.
I'm telling you, RINO Hunting has been GOLD since 2006.
Posted by: Shoot Me at December 04, 2014 04:09 PM (EQcfE)
Oh... sock off.
Cordially
The Big Bad Wolf...
Formerly Romeo13
USN ret.
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at December 04, 2014 04:09 PM (f0pWu)
http://tinyurl.com/nxjkrwd
You guys are going to love the 2016 field...Me, Jeb, Christie, Kasich. It's the Dream Team. You are so lucky!
Posted by: Mitt Romney at December 04, 2014 04:09 PM (8cWgt)
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2014 04:09 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 04:09 PM (gmeXX)
The only good I see from pointing out all the rampant hypocrisy is for the sake of the occasional random wanderer who stumbles in as a LIV and leaves with a few questions. Other than that, none of this matters.
It's fun to comment and get sucked in sometimes. It may even be useful to educate some of the friends and family to what's really going on.
I'm just gonna hide in my cave and stock up.
Posted by: ElKomandante at December 04, 2014 04:10 PM (AbvGI)
They're all over. Low-carb and paleo eaters consume hard-boiled eggs for snacks. (Yes, you can boil your own eggs at home, you can also make a sammich instead of a hot pocket.)
The free market, so mysterious.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 04, 2014 04:10 PM (ZKzrr)
Looks like you didn't have a stroke. Glad to see you are safe.
Posted by: fluffy at December 04, 2014 04:10 PM (Ua6T/)
meh.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 04, 2014 04:10 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 04, 2014 04:11 PM (/Ho8c)
Alabama, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, West Virginia and Wisconsin.
Posted by: Lauren at December 04, 2014 04:11 PM (BPMYx)
Posted by: John Boehner at December 04, 2014 04:11 PM (q+zA9)
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 04, 2014 04:11 PM (/Ho8c)
True.
But then we had people in our political class who were actually willing to use their power (given to them, supposedly, by the people they represent) to make things right. You can't fight if you have no weapons.
The best way I can put it is......
I'm not sure which prancercizing petunia pretender you are talking about....theirs or ours?
Posted by: FITP at December 04, 2014 04:11 PM (yOXTP)
Yeah.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 04, 2014 04:11 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, waking up suddenly at December 04, 2014 04:11 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 04, 2014 04:02 PM (dMEBN)
And you served? where exactly?
I did...
as does my Son.... and my Father in WW2 and Korea... and my Gfather in WW1... and multiple ancestors all the way back to Valley Forge...
So because I don't trust the GOP, and see them surrendering without a fight...
You call ME a COWARD???
I cannot say, what I am thinking... it would get me banned.
Posted by: John Boehner to the Base at December 04, 2014 04:08 PM (f0pWu)
*************
I don't think she is calling you a coward.
the statement is that we have been through worse than Obama--which is true.
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at December 04, 2014 04:11 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: The Big Bad Wof, by request at December 04, 2014 03:57 PM (f0pWu)
Yes, I am aware they are setting spending bills for next year. This short term funds DHS, which is the amnesty department. So yes, they WILL have to revisit it's funding.
http://tinyurl.com/oqstzav
Posted by: Jen the original at December 04, 2014 04:11 PM (oOlEN)
Posted by: The Dude at December 04, 2014 04:12 PM (SyKbw)
A nice Yiddish curse for Boehner and McConnell:
"Migulgl zol er vern in a henglayhter, by tog zol er hengen, un bay nakht zol er brenen."
He should be transformed into a chandelier, to hang by day and to burn by night.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:12 PM (CMkNk)
Yes.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2014 04:12 PM (vToAr)
Honest to god though I think Romney could have been the best president of the last 2 decades but since he wears magic underwear it'll never happen.
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:12 PM (cNHGF)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 04, 2014 04:12 PM (xSCb6)
The free market, so mysterious.
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You sir have just named two food products I will never buy from a grocery store.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 04:13 PM (gmeXX)
Honest to god though I think Romney could have been the best president of the last 2 decades but since he wears magic underwear it'll never happen.
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:12 PM (cNHGF)
If his panties are so besotted with pixie dust, why then does he not occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:13 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 04, 2014 04:13 PM (2cS/G)
But if they remain the good time cock suckers who go along to get along and continue to piss down my back and tell me it's raining...well, there's a storm coming.
Posted by: Gmac- who is tired of all this at December 04, 2014 04:13 PM (baiNQ)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:12 PM (cNHGF)
See, you're a great conservative. You probably support ObamaCare just like I do.
Thanks for your vote!
Posted by: John Kasich at December 04, 2014 04:14 PM (8cWgt)
I did...
as does my Son.... and my Father in WW2 and Korea... and my Gfather
in WW1... and multiple ancestors all the way back to Valley Forge...
So because I don't trust the GOP, and see them surrendering without a fight...
You call ME a COWARD???
I cannot say, what I am thinking... it would get me banned.
Posted by: John Boehner to the Base at December 04, 2014 04:08 PM (f0pWu)
Thank you for your service, sir. I do not recall calling anyone in our great military a coward. In fact, I do not recall calling any moron a coward.
I do recall calling pessimistic, temper tantrum toddlers, railing at the GOP, whiners. If you are a-whining, then you are a "whiner." There is not a damn thing anyone can do until January. If, after a certain time, the GOP continues to bend and dilly-dally, I will join you in whining. In 2015.
My father was a WWII Marine. I would never, ever, call anyone in service a coward. No, I did not "serve" in this country. I am a RN, however, and I have saved lives, whether this counts or not. I am a mother who gave birth to two sons who vote conservative. I think that counts, right?
If my lecture woke you up from your pessimism, good. That was the point. Never give up. And thank you again for your service to this country. xoxo
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 04, 2014 04:14 PM (dMEBN)
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 04, 2014 04:11 PM (/Ho8c)
***********
Hey thanks.
Supremely sorry to start that up.
I just recently moved to Cali and I guess I have allergic asthma that is worse--or something.
I was reacting to that Hillary ad and laughing at comments--and well--"plotz!"
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at December 04, 2014 04:14 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Null at December 04, 2014 04:14 PM (xjpRj)
The establishment is allowed perpetual license in all failures. No one that advocates staying the course is willing to name a single issue or matter that signals a clear violation of conservative principle.
Buck uppers:
Name an issue that would cause you to divest the GOP of all power. Just one. Go for it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 04, 2014 04:15 PM (s9AKD)
Because it didn't. It objectively did not hurt the GOP. Even in the polling at the time it wasn't hurting them. Your evidence only shows a small part of the polling population (about 6% of those polled) even blamed Cuccinelli for it. And as others have said, he was going down before the shutdown even happened. Correlation, causation, etc. And that's the only actual example you can even bring up.
Yes, I'm aware that hysterical pundits shriek and tear their clothes when the topic comes up. They just have no evidence or factual support for their concern. It just didn't hurt any.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 04, 2014 04:16 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 04, 2014 04:16 PM (0LHZx)
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With due respect, if this is the Democrat plan to end the GOP, I think they are failing.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 04:16 PM (gmeXX)
And being thankful that they hadn't served across a wide spectrum of military conflicts.
Words have meaning, so you should probably choose them a little more carefully.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 04, 2014 04:16 PM (xSCb6)
That's a canard.
His underwear had little to do with his losing.
His failure to connect, his windsock ways and his inept choices for communications doomed him.
Let alone his unwillingness or inability to fight the media spin and the media bias.
An overweight second string news reader sand bagged him and he could come up with no response.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 04, 2014 04:16 PM (KK+mC)
Meh. Not one of the great war films.
Mediocre screen play, mediocre acting.
Entertaining, for the most part.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 04, 2014 04:16 PM (/GgDU)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 04, 2014 03:58 PM (2cS/G)
They could be pickled. That's a thing.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2014 04:17 PM (IXrOn)
I wish the GOP would actually die. Right now. That means a conservative party would be able to go 1 on 1 with the Demokratische Partei.
And kick its ass.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:17 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 04, 2014 04:17 PM (mf5HN)
I'm hoping Ernst & other new members fight establishment. That's the only way things will change.
Posted by: Carol at December 04, 2014 04:17 PM (sj3Ax)
"Canadians. 1812 Part Deaux."
Canadian myth. The troops in DC wereBritish regualars off the boat from the Napoleonic War.
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 04, 2014 04:17 PM (tET5T)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:08 PM (CMkNk)
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I can only speak for myself, but yeah, I knew what was going to happen. Especially when it was a no-brainer that Mr. Orange and Turtle were going to keep their "leadership" positions.
It was still fun for a couple of days though.
Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2014 04:18 PM (ahULV)
Looks like you didn't have a stroke. Glad to see you are safe.
Posted by: fluffy at December 04, 2014 04:10 PM (Ua6T/)
*************
Thanks fluffy.
It was a hawking phlegm up everywhere reaction.
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at December 04, 2014 04:18 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 04, 2014 04:15 PM (s9AKD)
Looking for hills to die on is stupid. Pick a hill to *fight* on. You might actually win.
Posted by: DrewM. at December 04, 2014 04:18 PM (8cWgt)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 04, 2014 04:19 PM (/GgDU)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 04, 2014 04:19 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:19 PM (CMkNk)
Please do explain your logic here.
It's under the pony.
Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2014 04:20 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 04, 2014 04:19 PM (2cS/G)
It would be funny if the wrapper said "STALE" on it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:20 PM (CMkNk)
It was still fun for a couple of days though.
Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2014 04:18 PM (ahULV)
____________
The only fun part of it was (and still sorta is) rubbing Democrats nose in it. Democrats don't realize that even when the GOP wins they lose. So for a while anyway, you can still rub their nose in it.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 04, 2014 04:20 PM (0LHZx)
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You don't win a war dying for your country. You win it by getting the other poor SOB to die for his.
I don't necessarily think the GOP can win now. I just want it to try because I think it will help our chance in 2016.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 04:20 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: DrewM.
Look who's joined the thread for some pedantry. Same thing, dummy.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 04, 2014 04:20 PM (s9AKD)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 04, 2014 04:19 PM (2cS/G)
Ah.
I always have hard boiled eggs in the fridge. Great for breakfast, with some fruit, a piece of ham. Easy, fast.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2014 04:20 PM (IXrOn)
Well, it apparently gave us the current losers that you're currently bitching about. Worth it!
Posted by: Shoot Me at December 04, 2014 03:55 PM (EQcfE)
You know most people don't realize you're socking someone because themat douche bag usually shows up only once in a thread and typically at the end to shit on conservatives. But I do salute your efforts to mock that conservative hating shit for brains Shoot Me.
Posted by: Buzzion at December 04, 2014 04:20 PM (aWa2F)
never came to pass because there is no lasting damage with a shutdown."
Sure there was. The Tea Party lost its popularity and those EVIL RINO ESTABLISHMENT (PATOOIE!) gained leverage. In fact, Anti-Establishments spent every day up to the elections bitching about ESTABLISHMENT! pushing back against the Tea Party. Because, of course, there can never be any dissenters in True Con land, dammit. Everybody must have the same opinion and support the same candidates.
True cons swore they were going to throw the elections, and they couldn't even do that, so now they're just pretending that the Shutdown was AWESOME!!!1!!
Posted by: Shoot Me at December 04, 2014 04:20 PM (EQcfE)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 04, 2014 04:21 PM (0HooB)
The Republicans need to show, as I understand it, that there isn't a political solution available (so SCOTUS can't just say "it's a political problem"). The simplest, straightforward solution is to pass a law making it clear that Obama's construction of the existing law is wrong... but the law can't pass, because Dems will filibuster it and Obama would veto. (That's what this bill is.)
If SCOTUS steps back and says "not our fault Yoho didn't pass", they are in effect saying that the President can do whatever he wants--provided he can find some friendly lawyer to bless it--*unless* a 2/3 supermajority of Congress specifically overrides him. That would change Congress's power from "passing laws" to "able to veto laws under extraordinary circumstances".
But the *attempt* to pass Yoho might still help, by showing that Republicans made a good faith effort to stop the abuse through existing political means.
Not saying SCOTUS will take this up, or that they'll do anything to stop Obama, but I can see this scenario playing out this way.
Posted by: Shoutingboy at December 04, 2014 04:21 PM (Jx1eY)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 04, 2014 04:21 PM (aWa2F)
Posted by: J.J.
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"Rancid"
1/2 Off
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 04, 2014 04:21 PM (/GgDU)
Looking for hills to die on is stupid. Pick a hill to *fight* on. You might actually win.
Posted by: DrewM. at December 04, 2014 04:18 PM (8cWgt)
How about passing an actual budget? You know, as is required by Constitution and law?
So help me, I nearly burst into flame when I read someone suggested a Cromnibus bill.
Oh how I should be allowed to stomp people.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 04, 2014 04:21 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 04, 2014 04:21 PM (zOTsN)
it, but it just never occurred to me that there would be a demand.
Grocery items have been ridiculous for decades now. Funyuns, wtf.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 04, 2014 04:22 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:19 PM (CMkNk)
Lilyhammer reference, heh.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2014 04:22 PM (IXrOn)
1/2 Off
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 04, 2014 04:21 PM (/GgDU)
The Hostess Thrift Shop, okay. But day old sushi, not so much.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:22 PM (CMkNk)
I do recall calling pessimistic, temper tantrum toddlers, railing at the GOP, whiners...
And being thankful that they hadn't served across a wide spectrum of military conflicts.
Words have meaning, so you should probably choose them a little more carefully.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 04, 2014 04:16 PM (xSCb6)
Here are two: bite moi.
Our military have the right, as anyone does...and more...to be frustrated and angry. I will not go into the anger I had with the VA and my late father. I don't care who you are, it is not time to give up.My family have fought in every war since the birth of this nation and I'll be damned if I will give up.
And, since you want to fight, have at it with me, tootsie. I think he can defend himself, and I was speaking to him as he is a fighter and I don't want anyone to give up. I am a very proud supporter of our military, in the event you are new to this blog. We should never give up. But divided we will fail. I want to take the fight to the Dems in 2015...when it counts.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 04, 2014 04:23 PM (dMEBN)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2014 04:22 PM (IXrOn)
Never watched the show. Miami Steve is too close to Bruce Springsteen, the man of the people (at $150 a ticket for the nosebleed sections).
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:23 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 04, 2014 04:23 PM (wZxsP)
Posted by: Shoot Me at December 04, 2014 04:20 PM (EQcfE)
_____________
It wasn't awesome. It was a non-issue. The American electorate's attention span is about a week. Nobody even remembers, let alone gives a fuck about, the shutdown. And the same will be true in 2016. Nobody will even remember Obama's amnesty, which is why the only way it could be stopped is right now. In a few months it will be a non-issue.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 04, 2014 04:23 PM (0LHZx)
https://www.federalregister.gov/
executive-orders/barack-obama/2014
Not the original DACA or any of this latest bull shit...
Go find them, I dare you.
All of this has been done through directors memorandum at DHS starting with Big Sis and ending with Johnson.
""Napolitano, Janet (15 June 2012). "Exercising prosecutorial discretion with respect to individuals who came to the United States as children". United States Department of Homeland Security. Retrieved 21 November 2014.""
Sorry, I haven't posted here in years and I've forgotten how to do quotes and stuff.
Posted by: Cmaynard at December 04, 2014 04:23 PM (mzhpx)
Posted by: SarahW at December 04, 2014 04:24 PM (Lbv/k)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 04, 2014 04:24 PM (ZKzrr)
If they were doing that, you might have something. They aren't.
We have this argument over and over. You know why? Because the worthless scum won't fight. Ever. Even when conditions are extremely favorable.
Not that I see anyone working on the replacement as we should have started years ago.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 04, 2014 04:24 PM (DT3rQ)
The sad truth my darling is that we have to actually fight our own friggin' party right now even before taking on the Dems.
Mostly because our own party is demonstrating itself to be a wing of the other party.
But I do salute the service of everyone and relatives who served.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:25 PM (CMkNk)
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Is this true? Is there a constitutional requirement to pass a budget? If there is a law, I'm not sure how it applies. Surely Congress (as a 1/3 branch) has the power to ignore a law that requires Congress (as a 1/3 branch) to do something?
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 04:25 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:23 PM (CMkNk)
It's funny, at least the couple season's were. This last one, not as good, but some moments.
There's a guy on the show who has that fetish. It's bizarre. They zoom in and hold nothing back, when he sees mothers breastfeeding.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2014 04:27 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Cmaynard at December 04, 2014 04:23 PM
Not to worry... you can't
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 04, 2014 04:27 PM (wZxsP)
Like this one.
Sen. Tom Coburn M.D. @TomCoburn
The House just voted to add this to our National Park System: pic.twitter.com/tWAseCrz39
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 04, 2014 04:28 PM (ZPrif)
The Framers of the Constitution got so many things right and foresaw so many things. The one big thing they did not count on was elected officials with absolutely no morals, ethics or scruples in following the law that they swore on a Bible to uphold.
And so it goes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:28 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at December 04, 2014 04:28 PM (2Aj5D)
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 04, 2014 04:29 PM (o2Jt2)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2014 04:27 PM (IXrOn)
And with that, I'm off to the market!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:29 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 04, 2014 04:29 PM (o2Jt2
scam
Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at December 04, 2014 04:29 PM (2Aj5D)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:30 PM (cNHGF)
And so it goes.
----
Just saying there is no constitutional requirement for a budget.
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 04:30 PM (gmeXX)
Republicans made a good faith effort to stop the abuse through existing
political means.
But the Congress has not made a good faith effort to use its powers to stop obama. They have neither used the power of the purse nor impeachment.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2014 04:30 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:30 PM (cNHGF)
Cruz spoke out on it. Coburn.
Repub House passed it though.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 04, 2014 04:30 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: John Boehner at December 04, 2014 04:30 PM (q+zA9)
Posted by: Barrel at December 04, 2014 04:30 PM (o2Jt2)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 04, 2014 04:27 PM (wZxsP)
heh.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2014 04:30 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:30 PM (CMkNk)
Are you reading Conservative Review?
Posted by: Carol at December 04, 2014 04:30 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: big mick at December 04, 2014 04:31 PM (q+zA9)
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 04, 2014 04:31 PM (o2Jt2)
Posted by: SH at December 04, 2014 04:30 PM (gmeXX)
Does not negate my comments. But how do you authorize spending then?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2014 04:31 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 04, 2014 04:32 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:32 PM (cNHGF)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 04, 2014 04:32 PM (s9AKD)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 04, 2014 04:32 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2014 04:32 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 04, 2014 04:32 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: big mick at December 04, 2014 04:32 PM (q+zA9)
Posted by: big mick at December 04, 2014 04:32 PM (q+zA9)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:33 PM (cNHGF)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 04, 2014 04:33 PM (ZPrif)
And so it goes.
They were not politicians so much as brilliant psychologists. They understood the failure of human nature with regards to power better than anyone else who preceded them and constructed a government to address that failure.
That it's in tatters today merely reinforces their wisdom.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 04, 2014 04:33 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2014 04:33 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Fritz at December 04, 2014 04:33 PM (dVmLD)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at December 04, 2014 04:33 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 04, 2014 04:33 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 04, 2014 04:34 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:34 PM (cNHGF)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:33 PM (cNHGF)
We're all minimalists, here.
Paintings just sitting on the floor...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2014 04:34 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 04, 2014 04:34 PM (/Ho8c)
many things. The one big thing they did not count on was elected
officials with absolutely no morals, ethics or scruples in following the
law that they swore on a Bible to uphold.
They also didn't plan on us stupidly extending voting privileges to everyone with a pulse.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2014 04:35 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 04, 2014 04:35 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 04, 2014 04:35 PM (/Ho8c)
It took years, yes some of Bush's second term which I hated, to mess this country up. It is not going to be fixed overnight. The illegal situation has been around, oh, for a decade? I mean, I have been reading, since I woke up on 9/11, about mooslem prayer blankets found on Arizona ranches in 1998.
And, as I am now "pollyanna," well, it is better than living in doom and getting soggy in my tears. When I see solutions like "don't vote GOP" or yada it makes me a little peeved...as that worked so well in getting Barky elected, no? Or, when I see, "third party" stuff, well, it sounded good, and now is the time to do it if it is going to happen (it won't. See: Whigs). I went to some Tea Party meetings. Yes! Me! The resident Rino or whatever names I have endured. Whatever. I love morons. I do. I just hate the roll over and whine fests. xoxo
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 04, 2014 04:35 PM (dMEBN)
Because some of us are actually capable of staying away from the Barrel for more than a week at a time?
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 04, 2014 04:35 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at December 04, 2014 04:35 PM (2Aj5D)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2014 04:35 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 04, 2014 04:35 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 04, 2014 04:35 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 04, 2014 04:35 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 04, 2014 04:36 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 04, 2014 04:36 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Lincolntf
It's not like italics or bold really make an impression after all these years???
Posted by: Al Sharpton at December 04, 2014 04:36 PM (s9AKD)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 04, 2014 04:36 PM (dMEBN)
Posted by: Fritz at December 04, 2014 04:37 PM (dVmLD)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:37 PM (cNHGF)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:37 PM (cNHGF)
We called Obama a meanie and stuff and it was really sweet.
He really got mad and all and that was so cool.
Cuz we called him a big doodie-head.
....well, yeah...he's still gonna take our lunch money.
....no...calling him a doodie-head didn't actually change anything...but...
.....but....it was so cool.....but we....
Oh...you're no fun.
*sulks*
But, we called him a doodie-head!
*cries*
You're the meany. Not Obama!
*cries some more*
Posted by: John Boehner, Squeaker of the Howse at December 04, 2014 04:37 PM (0cMkb)
That's kind of a slanted statement there.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 04, 2014 04:37 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2014 04:37 PM (A6vWB)
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 04, 2014 04:29 PM
I got one of those the other day.
And for several days before Thanksgiving I was getting these phones calls that something was wrong w/ my computer, at least some of them claimed they were from Microsoft. I just told them it was disgraceful they were working for a scam and they needed to get a real honest job!
Posted by: Farmer at December 04, 2014 04:37 PM (4azda)
Posted by: T. Jeff at December 04, 2014 04:37 PM (/Ho8c)
Yeah,
you said something ill-considered and got called on it Sweetie. No one
really cares that your family served, you haven't and chose to say
something shitty to someone who actually has. Try taking a little
responsibility instead of offering irrelevant personal details and
redirection.
Poor dear. enduring all those *gasp* names, while calling people with whom you disagree "whiners". Time to grow up.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 04, 2014 04:37 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 04, 2014 04:38 PM (KK+mC)
I like the site. They expose republican antics before they go through the motions.
Posted by: Carol at December 04, 2014 04:38 PM (sj3Ax)
Those two comments together will live on in Morondom for generations. We will speak to our grandchildren about this day.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 04, 2014 04:38 PM (0HooB)
You know, the alumin -- alluminnu -- aluminim -- metal caps on those little airplane liquor bottles are pretty tricky to spin off. Especially when "the thirst" has given you the shakes.
Posted by: John "Minibar" Boehner
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 04, 2014 04:38 PM (kdS6q)
The bad part is you are on the ship and don't have the helm.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 04, 2014 04:38 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:37 PM (cNHGF)
We like us some Horse & Buggies.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2014 04:38 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:38 PM (cNHGF)
After next summers OLLY, OLLY, oxen free, how nuanced, how best we can do, how sober and not baked in an UV oven.
Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2014 04:38 PM (DL2i+)
I'd fess up to drinking otherwise folks will think you are stoopid
Posted by: big mick at December 04, 2014 04:39 PM (q+zA9)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 04, 2014 04:38 PM
C'mon Rev Al, comment on this one.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at December 04, 2014 04:39 PM (2Aj5D)
Posted by: bestie21 at December 04, 2014 04:42 PM (cNHGF)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 04, 2014 04:42 PM (2Ayux)
Just how the hell are the airbag guys at Takada going to adjust for those and not explode?
Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2014 04:43 PM (DL2i+)
you said something ill-considered and got called on it Sweetie. No one
really cares that your family served, you haven't and chose to say
something shitty to someone who actually has. Try taking a little
responsibility instead of offering irrelevant personal details and
redirection.
Poor dear. enduring all those *gasp* names, while calling people with whom you disagree "whiners". Time to grow up.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 04, 2014 04:37 PM (xSCb6)
Bless your heart, honey. I took responsibility. I thanked him. I never called anyone a coward, so I did defend that. And you can call me any name you want to while you hide behind your key board. Real big man, pickin' on a redneck queen. Bite moi. xoxo
Posted by: ChristyBlinky has no energy to riot at December 04, 2014 04:44 PM (dMEBN)
The Barrel shall awaken!
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 04, 2014 04:45 PM (DT3rQ)
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 04, 2014 04:46 PM (Zna9o)
I'm pretty sure they'd have to pass a law rescinding the prior law, but I am a moron.
Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2014 04:47 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 04, 2014 04:49 PM (z/Ubi)
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I think they also assumed that at least *some*, if not most of the press, would call attention to corrupt practices/politicians.
Consider the fact that the broadcast media (most influential, I think) are controlled by a handful of corporations. The FF could have have possibly imagined the concentrated control of news and opinion.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 04, 2014 04:49 PM (/GgDU)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 04, 2014 04:50 PM (/GgDU)
Posted by: MuricanIndian at December 04, 2014 04:52 PM (L+7k6)
I had to go away for awhile, but thank you for filling me in about the clickability of posted URLS. I didn't know if it was just my computer because of the browser I use.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 04, 2014 04:53 PM (Id9T2)
Posted by: MuricanIndian
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I am a true American.
Posted by: Fauxcahontas at December 04, 2014 05:01 PM (/GgDU)
Posted by: Biff Boffo at December 04, 2014 05:04 PM (Zxs9d)
Posted by: Chris Starkey at December 04, 2014 05:15 PM (O2lTZ)
There is an establishment of the correct persons that runs this country, and you aren't in it. Your consent is no longer required.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 04, 2014 05:49 PM (tUHzZ)
Posted by: Adjoran at December 04, 2014 05:57 PM (QIQ6j)
I dare you. Show it to me. Let me read it. Let me see his signature.
The fact of the matter is that Barack Obama has signed no such executive orders.
The media is lying to you, Ace.
And like a sap, you're believing them. Taking them at their word, just because Obama claims to have signed an executive order.
Well, if he's signed one, you should be able to provide a copy of it.
I defy you to. You won't find any piece of paper with his signature on it authorizing these changes in immigration laws.
You've been willingly duped, because you can't be bothered to do the legwork.
Posted by: someguy at December 04, 2014 06:07 PM (3z91g)
and Rep administrations and Congresses. What we need is a Teddy Roosevelt type that seeks to bust up the cozy arrangements--what we will get are limp noodles. Where we are probably heading is Argentina or Venezuela where an alliance of crony rich and the poor in the electorate earn livings by looting the shrinking productive middle class. NYC has a similar arrangement and look how well the middle class are doing there!
Posted by: wg at December 04, 2014 06:22 PM (egDro)
What's your point?
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 04, 2014 07:59 PM (rwI+c)
At least, unless we spontaneously generated.
Posted by: toby928(C) at December 04, 2014 08:00 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 04, 2014 08:30 PM (lG2E3)
Posted by: A pot of message at December 04, 2014 09:26 PM (LORBg)
Some of the more moderate Ocrats, facing the choice of being part of an ineffective minority, or part of a common sense productive majority, might join the GOP to help kill any vetos -- start with something popular, like Keystone...
Get the nation conditioned to how the Ohouse and extreme Ocrat leadership stands for not getting anything done... Which is why Congress never passed a budget, or brought very few House passed bills up for a vote, or consideration.
The OCrat extremists have earned the right to wear their Olbatross... Give them plenty of opportunities to display their silliness, lack of common sense and decency as possible.
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