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Overnight Open Thread (12-1-2014)
Aaron Worthing: The Elephant in the Room in the Cosby Rape Accusations
Here Aaron considers whether the accusations of rape against Cosby are true in the context of race:
But here's my major problem with it. It is not talking about the elephant in the room: the touchy history of black men and white women. Consider this your "trigger warning" if you are the type who needs that sort of thing.
And here in my opinion he goes off on a tangent - dragging the Scottboro Boys and Emmett Till into the mix - and decides that the women's concern about not being believed about a rape accusation against a black man is not really credible.
The problem is that Worthing misses the giant elephant that's so glaringly obvious that it can be hard to remember at times:
Bill Cosby is a celebrity.
He's a big celebrity and has been a popular one for 40+ years.
And in our current culture popular celebrities can basically do whatever they want. In fact legally they're practically untouchable. When was the last time a celebrity in the midst of popularity and financial success ever went to jail or even went to trial? Pretty much never. I mean sure if they're at the tail end of their career or brought low by drugs (Robert Downey Jr) or routinely playing villains, but not when they're beloved and raking in the $$$$. Which has been Bill Cosby for most of his career.
So at this point I do believe the rape accusations against Cosby - or to be more precise I believe the probability of all the rape accusations against him being made up to be vanishingly small. This is based on the sheer number of women coming forward, the fact that their accounts go back to the late 60s and have common details (particularly involving blackouts after Cosby give them drugs or a drink), the lack of financial benefit to them i.e. no lawsuits, and the fact some of the women have been publicly telling their stories of being raped by Cosby since the 80s. This was actually the first I ever heard of the accusations but apparently they have come out over the years but never found any media traction or just got hushed up.
To me the most damning detail to come out so far is the fact that Hollywood agents and insiders have been warning female clients for decades to never allow themselves to be alone with Cosby which tells you that a) these stories have been around for a long time and b) the insiders believed them enough to warn off their clients despite Cosby being a show biz powerhouse and potential star-maker. Also damning to me is the fact that Cosby won't actually deny the rape claims along with his recent behavior in a press conference where a cowed reporter could barely bring himself to even broach the topic of the rape claims. After listening to the tape of Cosby intimidating the reporter and then browbeating the producer to make the tape with his awkward non-denial disappear, my gut feeling was that this was a guilty man who had been used to getting his way for a long, long time. Except now the rules have changed and it's not so easy to make things go away like it used to be.
And I'm not happy about this in any way. I've long liked Cosby even before his Cosby Show days and always had great respect for him. He truly seemed like a great man.
But alas the real Bill Cosby appears to have been a far cry from the public Bill Cosby that everyone loved. And if the claims are indeed true, then Bill Cosby has been - with the media's connivance - America's own version of Jimmy Savile .
Rise of the British 'White Van' Voter
So this twitter photo meant as an insult by a Labour MP has now come to symbolize an entire class of English voters and ended up costing the MP her job.
Posting a picture on Twitter of a two-storey house, displaying three English flags of St. George and with a white tradesman's van outside, might seem innocuous to a foreign eye.When a British politician appeared to sneer at the modest Rochester home of a 'white van' voter, she was vilified as a member of an arrogant London elite.
In a Britain where disaffected voters increasingly view politicians as snobbish, patronising and out of touch, the picture was laden with social cliches.
Translation: White van = working class. English flags = right-wing working class feeling insecure about immigration in an England that no longer exists.
The timing - coinciding with a local election that delivered victory to an anti-EU, anti-immigration party - was disastrous.
Within 7 hours of posting the photograph, Labour lawmaker Emily Thornberry had resigned as the opposition's chief spokeswoman on legal matters.
Since the posting of the photo the owner of the van, Dan Ware, has become something of a celebrity and has even published a Danifesto which would be quite at home at any Tea Party rally.
Researchers Find Strategy in Dog's Sloppy Drinking
Does Crime Increase on Game Day? (Football)
A tiny bit.
This article investigates the effects of National Football League (NFL) games on crime. Using a panel data set that includes daily crime incidences in eight large cities with NFL teams, we examine how various measurements of criminal activities change on game day compared with nongame days. Our findings from both ordinary least squares and negative binomial regressions indicate that NFL home games are associated with a 2.6% increase in total crimes, while financially motivated crimes such as larceny and motor vehicle theft increase by 4.1% and 6.7%, respectively, on game days. However, we observe that play-off games are associated with a decrease in financially motivated crimes. The effects of game time (afternoon vs. evening) and upset wins and losses on crime are also considered.
Obligatory: Mr Plinkett Reviews 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' Trailer
Wankers and Prankers on the Suicide Hotline
You have to wonder what kind of person calls up a suicide hotline to jack off but then they're clearly troubled in their own way as well.
In the support hotline world, these callers are known as 'wankers and prankers' and they are surprisingly common. You probably wouldn't imagine that people phone up suicide hotlines to whack off or wind people up, but it is common enough that most services have specific procedures to deal with these nuisance callers.Many of these lines have a policy where the hotline attender doesn't hang up on the caller, because people with the most disordered ways of accessing the services might be the ones who need it most.
To deal with this, some services have a specific person each shift whose job it is to listen to persistent masturbators. When they call they can just ask for 'Julie', or some other code name, and be passed on to the designated nuisance call monitor, who listens out for any signs that the person has something relevant they want to discuss.
This reduces the number of times people in the front line have the emotionally jarring experience of going from distressed suicidal people to 'wankers and prankers', meaning they're better able to be open and empathetic for people who need it, and are less emotionally drained themselves.
The New Favorite Song to be Played at Funerals
At least in the UK. I've always liked this song but for my send off I want 'Christmas in Heaven' and the 1812 Overture with cannons and synchronized to end with the ringing of the chapel's bells just like the original performance. And yes I have friends with their own personal cannons.
So you want some trendy selvedge jeans but don't feel like wearing and washing them until they're broken in? Well now you can buy pre-broken in jeans. Or get paid for wearing jeans for a premium buyer.
You are going to break our selvedge jeans in for our customers.You will have to agree to not wash them for 6 months.
You will have to agree to update what you get up to in them on HistoryTag.
And before you get them sent to you have pay a small deposit, which we will refund on their safe return.
When we get them back, we will expertly wash them.
And then we will sell these beautiful jeans.
You will have 20% of the sale.
So in effect you will be paid to wear jeans.
The Yahoo AoSHQ group - it's got electrolytes.
And my twitter thang.
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 10:42 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Y-not at December 01, 2014 10:43 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 01, 2014 10:43 PM (/RpVl)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 10:43 PM (b5BZa)
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 10:44 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Daisy Cutter at December 01, 2014 10:45 PM (WS+CW)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 10:45 PM (KCxzN)
Here's a little something to make you feel good or bad, depending upon your perspective. It might make you feel like both.
http://youtu.be/tJv7wkqQRww
Posted by: Country Singer at December 01, 2014 10:45 PM (nL0sw)
Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2014 10:46 PM (MDgS8)
Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2014 10:47 PM (MDgS8)
Posted by: Warren Buffet at December 01, 2014 10:47 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 01, 2014 10:48 PM (Pbi9K)
(for about the fiftieth *first*, so whatever).
*punches stupid technology*
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 01, 2014 10:48 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Y-not at December 01, 2014 10:48 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2014 10:49 PM (MDgS8)
The new Star Wars will be awful.
Because Star Wars is awful.
Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2014 10:46 PM (MDgS
Marvin, is that you?
Posted by: dentarthurdent at December 01, 2014 10:49 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 01, 2014 10:50 PM (tfl8w)
Posted by: fastfreefall at December 01, 2014 10:50 PM (pqOzY)
Posted by: Lauren at December 01, 2014 10:50 PM (BPMYx)
Do you know how long I have been alive?
I would tell you, but it's too depressing.
Posted by: Marvin at December 01, 2014 10:51 PM (MDgS8)
Posted by: Bill Cosby, pudding salesman at December 01, 2014 10:52 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 10:52 PM (iBXmZ)
Posted by: Robert Downey Jr. at December 01, 2014 10:52 PM (uqV2n)
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 10:53 PM (iBXmZ)
Posted by: Robert Downey Jr. at December 01, 2014 10:53 PM (uqV2n)
Posted by: puddleglum@work at December 01, 2014 10:53 PM (8SsiG)
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 10:52 PM (iBXmZ)
No. But apparently he got off on it even when it wasn't necessary.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 10:54 PM (pAlYe)
votes, narrowly putting it ahead of the Monster Raving Loony Party and a
former dominatrix standing as an independent."
I feel somehow cheated.....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 10:54 PM (T1005)
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 10:54 PM (iBXmZ)
Go back & watch his stand-up stuff from the late '60's / early '70's. He may be a rapist scumbag, but he's really funny & that shit still stands up after all these years
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 10:55 PM (KCxzN)
My BIL did some shit that shocked me to my core.
People are fucked up.
Posted by: Marvin at December 01, 2014 10:55 PM (MDgS8)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 10:54 PM (pAlYe)
sigh.
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 10:55 PM (iBXmZ)
I didn't want to believe the stories about Cosby. Now I don't see how I can't.
Crap.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 01, 2014 10:55 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 10:56 PM (iBXmZ)
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 01, 2014 10:57 PM (tfl8w)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 10:57 PM (T1005)
The cruciform-like light saber in the Lego version of the Star Wars VII trailer is freeking hilarious!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 01, 2014 10:57 PM (/dvmK)
I'm still in denial I guess.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 01, 2014 10:58 PM (JO9+V)
is it impolite to refuse pills?
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 10:58 PM (iBXmZ)
Posted by: puddleglum@work at December 01, 2014 10:58 PM (8SsiG)
There is a lesson here, though; and it's a lesson we'll never learn.
Never idolize ANYONE or put them on a pedestal because they will ALWAYS disappoint you.
That goes for politicians, especially. All of them. You have to be a fucking idiot to idolize a politician.
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 01, 2014 11:00 PM (tfl8w)
Where would Cos get all these knockout drugs? Other recreational drugs, sure, but specifically knockout drugs?
I'm still in denial I guess.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 01, 2014 10:58 PM (JO9+V)
Just a little knowledge of chemistry can take you a long way....
Posted by: Walter White at December 01, 2014 11:00 PM (T1005)
I think the only two cast members who have commented are Lisa Bonet (with a barely coherent tweet that I think has since been deleted) and Raven-Symone, who has admantly stated that Cosby did nothing to her (and thank God for that, considering how old she was at the time) and that she wants to be left out of the whole story.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 01, 2014 11:00 PM (rJUlF)
Y-not our oldest male setter just slobbers all over the place. Fricking slob
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 11:00 PM (b5BZa)
Posted by: n
Grew up listening to his comedy LPs... it's a shame if, as it appears, it's true. Just sad. I miss the innocence of those filthy, riotous, protest'n, war-fight'n 60's. Seems quaint now.
Posted by: Daisy Cutter at December 01, 2014 11:01 PM (WS+CW)
Duh! He was a doctor!
Posted by: joey biden at December 01, 2014 11:01 PM (T4t+V)
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:01 PM (iBXmZ)
Posted by: t-bird at December 01, 2014 11:01 PM (FcR7P)
Or, as an older relative told me when I was young: "Never meet your heroes. They tend to disappoint you".
Sometimes that happens even if you never meet them.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 01, 2014 11:01 PM (rJUlF)
Surely, good sir, an exception must be made for a rara avis.
Posted by: Christopher Buckley at December 01, 2014 11:02 PM (2gNPB)
That's a crime with no statute of limitations.
Posted by: Oschisms at December 01, 2014 11:02 PM (uqV2n)
Because Star Wars is awful.
Posted by: eleven at December 01, 2014 10:46 PM (MDgS
BURN THE HERETIC!!!
Evenin', fappers!
Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2014 11:02 PM (mx5oN)
I'm still in denial I guess.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 01, 2014 10:58 PM (JO9+V)
Quaaludes were completely legal back in the 70s. All you needed was a friendly doctor who would prescribe some to help you wind down and get to sleep after a show...
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 11:02 PM (pAlYe)
The new Star Wars will be awful.
I got a bad feeling about that stupid robot soccer ball.
Posted by: t-bird at December 01, 2014 11:01 PM (FcR7P)
Sort of a "wind-up Jar-Jar" feeling? Yeah, me too....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:03 PM (T1005)
Suppositowies? Definitewy yes.
Posted by: bawney fwank at December 01, 2014 11:03 PM (T4t+V)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 01, 2014 11:03 PM (rJUlF)
And I definitely don't get fapping on the suicide hotline.
It's that sheltered life I've led.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 01, 2014 11:03 PM (CGO1D)
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:03 PM (iBXmZ)
Posted by: mugiwara at December 01, 2014 11:04 PM (3a584)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 01, 2014 11:04 PM (rJUlF)
And this enabling is nothing new, really. Certainly not a Millennial thing. Baby Boomers seem, at least to me, to be the first generation to wholesale embrace that vice.
But hell, who knows. Imagine Nero with a Facebook account. Hitler on Twitter. Genghis Khan's Blogspot. Stalin on CNN. They'd all have huge followers - in any era.
People suck ... individually and collectively.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 01, 2014 11:04 PM (xWPj1)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 11:04 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 01, 2014 11:05 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 01, 2014 11:03 PM (rJUlF)
Thank you good sir!
*arranges kindling*
Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2014 11:05 PM (mx5oN)
What a shitty day. Started bad when I argued with T-MOBILE for an hour, got worse when I read the PeTA headline on the local Rag at grocery store, then even worse with Ace's headlines.
Who wants a drink?
Posted by: shredded chi at December 01, 2014 11:05 PM (LFaED)
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 01, 2014 11:03 PM (CGO1D)
No, it's that you are not a fricking weirdo
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 11:05 PM (b5BZa)
Posted by: CMU VET at December 01, 2014 11:05 PM (ejB0r)
Posted by: Erowmero at December 01, 2014 11:06 PM (go5uR)
Asking for a friend?
Posted by: andycanuck at December 01, 2014 11:06 PM (T4t+V)
They took a femur measurement for estimation of the weight.
Got 6lb 11oz now. Which apparently extrapolates to an over 9lb baby.
She is not happy
. I mean she's happy, but also a bit upset.Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 01, 2014 11:07 PM (HDwDg)
38 Where would Cos get all these knockout drugs? Other recreational drugs, sure, but specifically knockout drugs?
I'm still in denial I guess.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 01, 2014 10:58 PM (JO9+V)
Quaaludes
were completely legal back in the 70s. All you needed was a friendly
doctor who would prescribe some to help you wind down and get to sleep
after a show...
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 11:02 PM (pAlYe)
......and you know this how???? [*rumble of gathering thunderstorm, room darkens, echoing voice intones "The Secret Life of Maetenloch", room returns to normal*]
Say, that was weird. BTW, Maet, you've got mail.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:07 PM (T1005)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 11:07 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: pookysgirl at December 01, 2014 11:07 PM (bRPUY)
It's that sheltered life I've led. They used to call that "normal".
61: There is nothing new under the Sun.
Posted by: puddleglum@work at December 01, 2014 11:07 PM (8SsiG)
Sometimes that happens even if you never meet them.
I like to think of it as, "In the age of the internet, you'll get to meet all of your heroes. Choose them wisely."
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 01, 2014 11:07 PM (UVfht)
Mass delusions are more common than we thing. Almost every year a new fashionable disease gets a lot of media attention -- and soon hundreds and thousands of people will convince themselves they have it, even manifesting the, often vague and non-specific, symptoms of the disease.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 11:08 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Bill Cosby, pudding salesman at December 01, 2014 11:08 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 01, 2014 11:08 PM (t//F+)
You know what a great article title would be?
Does It Really Matter If Bill Cosby Is A Serial Rapist?
...in which the article explores if it really matter if Bill Cosby is a serial rapist.
I mean, really, let's take Tiger Woods for example. Mike Vick. Better yet, let's take Ray Rice. Or Bill Clinton.
The list of rotten pieces of shit is endless. The common thread among them is that their offenses really don't matter in this world of Bullshit.
I'm not trying to be super-cynical -- just super-honest. People don't really care about the awful things others do. What people like is being the Jerry Springer audience.
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 01, 2014 11:09 PM (tfl8w)
And good evening. Got a bit of a scare last night: My sister, who takes care of my 84-year-old Dad, called and said that he had fluid in his lungs and around his heart. Touch and go all night. Finally heard from her today that he's stable and recovering but will require help for the foreseeable future. Going to take time off and visit this week. Cross your fingers.
Posted by: joncelli at December 01, 2014 11:09 PM (ENczY)
The "white van" story is especially interesting to me as I thought that by now, British conservatives basically have *no power, clout or influence whatsoever* on politics and/or society there.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:09 PM (fGApK)
Posted by: Y- not at December 01, 2014 11:09 PM (9BRsg)
I went back to the cardiologist for my next follow-up today. All the numbers are great. I was told, "Whatever it is you're doing, keep doing it." She said I was recovering faster than most patients they see. So, I'm back to full-time work, and back to working at the karaoke bar on the weekends.
I also got the hospital's financial assistance department all the paperwork they asked for, so I'm hoping for good news from there soon. (Thanks again for the donations to the GoFundMe. They've helped immensely.)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 01, 2014 11:09 PM (rJUlF)
Evenin' all.
What a shitty day. Started bad when I argued with T-MOBILE for an
hour, got worse when I read the PeTA headline on the local Rag at
grocery store, then even worse with Ace's headlines.
Who wants a drink?
Posted by: shredded chi at December 01, 2014 11:05 PM (LFaED)
You're runnin' a bit behind, bro -- best work on catching up.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:09 PM (T1005)
Just got back from my hack-n-slash class. I may look Ron Howard-esque, but I feel Robert E. Howard-esque. The invincible barbarianess! Time to crank up the Basil Poledouris soundtrack and flail away.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 01, 2014 11:10 PM (QBm1P)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2014 11:10 PM (l1zOH)
Maybe he's hung like a cockroach and was too embarrassed to allow these women to remember his angry inch.
Posted by: Fritz at December 01, 2014 11:10 PM (dVmLD)
Wife had a 35 week, 3 day ultrasound today.
They took a femur measurement for estimation of the weight.
Got 6lb 11oz now. Which apparently extrapolates to an over 9lb baby.
She is not happy . I mean she's happy, but also a bit upset.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 01, 2014 11:07 PM (HDwDg)
I've got a cousin that popped at 10 and 6. At least he was healthy (and has since made it to CPO).
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:11 PM (iBXmZ)
OT: My friend who was given 6-12 months in (September?) died yesterday. I was not best friends with him, but I saw him at least weekly for 25 years, and liked him and will miss him. The odd thing is, I have that weird reaction: I think everyone is lying about his death. Most bizarre thing, not sure if it ever happened to me before. I guess it is bothering me more than I would have thought. I should have known- when I went to visit him at the hospital I was in a fugue state the much of the day, but I get those often now, so I didn't think much of it. It really is funny- I use to barely tolerate the guy, years ago, and I ended up loving him.
Posted by: Baldy at December 01, 2014 11:11 PM (+35FH)
Glad to hear momma & baby doing well
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 11:11 PM (b5BZa)
She is not happy . I mean she's happy, but also a bit upset.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 01, 2014 11:07 PM
My wife passed over 15 lbs. of twins fifteen years ago. It's still all my fault.
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 11:11 PM (KCxzN)
*reference the gluten allergy craze. I don't think I ever heard the word gluten before a few years ago.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 01, 2014 11:11 PM (LFaED)
-Cosby: I haven't read much but Aaron Worthing would be a better fiction writer.
-"White Van" Voters: Duh. ...and the Working Class.
-"Sloppy" Dog Drinking: I watched slo-mo of the action years ago and they get their fill.
-Crime Increase on Gameday: *meh* Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics. That's coming from a "stats-guy".
-Wanker Pranksters: Doood. Really?
-"Christmas in Heaven": Since I have no audio, I don't know. Huge Props to Maet for knowing dude(s), plural, with cannons. The 1812 Overture is simply spectacular.
-Breaking-In Jeans: Neghative, Ghostrider. The pattern is full.
-Hank Hill: Reminds me of my Father. Love that character.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 01, 2014 11:12 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Eliot Spitzer at December 01, 2014 11:12 PM (uqV2n)
Also recall the saying about rape; that it is more about control than sex.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 01, 2014 11:12 PM (CGO1D)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:07 PM (T1005)
Nah - I was way too young for all that shit. I just had loser cousins who were way into drugs and picked up info by osmosis. (The cousins also ened up becoming anti-drug cautionary tales ).
Plus drugs were common enough that they even began to filter into popular culture. Just watch some old 'Fridays' episodes and have someone explain the many drug references.
Hell most things were legal back then or had legal equivalents. You could get speed from your doctor to lose weight or steroids if you wanted to bulk up.
Also Exhibit B: Cheech and Chong.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 11:12 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 01, 2014 11:13 PM (Pbi9K)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 01, 2014 11:13 PM (ucDmr)
Went to TGI Fridays for dinner. Hey, look, they have an "endless appetizer" special. $10, all you can eat. Cool! I'll have that. Let's see, chicken wings, pot stickers, potato skins...man, this rocks!
And then the bill comes. $40. Wait, wha?
Seems the promotion is all of any single appetizer you can eat for $10. I ordered wings, $10. I could have kept ordering wings and never paid any more, but since I ordered pot stickers instead, boom, another $10 for the stickers. And so on. My "great deal" wound up costing me 3 times what I was expecting. Smart like ox, that's me.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 01, 2014 11:13 PM (KAmzK)
And here's the news, as succinctly as I can put it...
Kind of anticlimactic. Last night, after some moderate pain, I suddenly came down with what felt like muscle cramps or pain in my right foot, so bad I could barely walk. So finally I called both people I had interviews with and left messages at around 8:30 this morning (my interviews were at 10:30 and noon).
Good news: the person re better and higher-paying job got back to me about an hour and a half later. I explained my situation, and she said she would see about holding a *telephonic* interview at noon instead, which I wholeheartedly agreed to. So that's what I did and at least I can say I interviewed, and I tried to make clear I would have no objection if they wanted to subject me to an in-person follow-up interview if they liked me for the job.
The other? It was with the same woman I had interviewed with *twice before* for the same job, which I talked about before here. She never got back to me, which I suppose is okay as I have a hunch she had no intention of taking me or my credentials seriously anyway.
So one out of two ain't bad, I guess. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:13 PM (fGApK)
Posted by: Cheri at December 01, 2014 11:14 PM (ZFPMM)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 01, 2014 11:13 PM (KAmzK)
order the sampler
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:14 PM (iBXmZ)
Did you at least eat $40 of "food"?
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 01, 2014 11:14 PM (tfl8w)
Posted by: joncelli at December 01, 2014 11:15 PM (ENczY)
Posted by: Buzzion at December 01, 2014 11:15 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Y- not at December 01, 2014 11:15 PM (9BRsg)
Fixed.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 01, 2014 11:16 PM (T4t+V)
Posted by: puddleglum@work at December 01, 2014 11:16 PM (8SsiG)
Posted by: Cheri at December 01, 2014 11:16 PM (ZFPMM)
So boys and girls, today we learned that Weirddave just isn't all that bright.
Went to TGI Fridays for dinner. Hey, look, they have an "endless
appetizer" special. $10, all you can eat. Cool! I'll have that. Let's
see, chicken wings, pot stickers, potato skins...man, this rocks!
And then the bill comes. $40. Wait, wha?
Seems the promotion is all of any single appetizer you can eat for
$10. I ordered wings, $10. I could have kept ordering wings and never
paid any more, but since I ordered pot stickers instead, boom, another
$10 for the stickers. And so on. My "great deal" wound up costing me 3
times what I was expecting. Smart like ox, that's me.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 01, 2014 11:13 PM (KAmzK)
Is Gingy home yet?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:17 PM (T1005)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 11:17 PM (KCxzN)
I like to go into stores and ask where they keep the gluten free wheat bread.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 01, 2014 11:17 PM (UVfht)
Posted by: Weirddave
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So..., Gingy is still away?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2014 11:17 PM (vPh3W)
And the Cosby we "know" would not do these things.
I've had the same experience when people that I knew quite well were arrested for felonies. A woman I knew was arrested and convicted for seriously, physically abusing a baby she was going to adopt. She left a permanent injury. No one could have guessed that she was capable of this.
A man I knew and worked with was doing the books for a few different organizations. He was arrested and convicted of embezzlement of a significant amount of money. Again, he was the last person you would expect to do this.
You hear the news, and you think, "There has to be some mistake." Then they admit they did it and plead guilty, and their children and spouses go through hell.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2014 11:17 PM (A/e8X)
A most excellent report, congratulations.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2014 11:17 PM (1Y+hH)
At the Redskins next week. That should be a joy.
Posted by: t-bird at December 01, 2014 11:18 PM (FcR7P)
Great Freaking News! Continued Blessings, Sir!!!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 01, 2014 11:18 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 01, 2014 11:18 PM (HDwDg)
It's just spitball armchair psychology at absolute best, but from what little I know about his upbringing, Cosby had an *extremely* controlling, tough mother, i.e. the kind who wanted to make absolutely certain he didn't have to live in public housing when he grew up. (Much of Cosby's early stand-up material is about his growing up in the projects.)
Doesn't excuse anything or any actions of his, of course. Just another observation that's worth exactly what everyone here paid for it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:18 PM (fGApK)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 11:18 PM (b5BZa)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:18 PM (T1005)
So instead of admitting they voluntarily hooked up with Cosby to get some Hollywood points, getting drunk and high with him, they now are crying rape because that is easier to accept than the responsibility that they knowingly went along with him.
Ever hear an interview with Ted Nugent and some of his prior wives? I don't think he even knows how many women he's had sex with, his second wife/girlfriend(who was underage when she began living with him) called it "snag it, bag it, and then give it cab fare" when complaining about Nugent's women on the road.
When he's 80, just watch, the roaches will come out of the woodwork with accusations of rape. Nugents still too young and fiesty to try that with now.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2014 11:18 PM (euPfy)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2014 11:18 PM (vPh3W)
by now, British conservatives basically have *no power, clout or
influence whatsoever* on politics and/or society there.
qdpsteve, the UKIP is about to pound the fuck out of the two main parties in the coming elections in May.
UKIP is pretty damn conservative. Probably more so than our GOPe.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 01, 2014 11:19 PM (CGO1D)
Smart like ox, that's me.
Posted by: Weirddave
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So..., Gingy is still away?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2014 11:17 PM (vPh3W)
*high five*
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:19 PM (T1005)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:19 PM (fGApK)
Had that happen to me when I was younger over a particular favorite uncle. I couldn't believe it. I'd seen him only a couple weeks earlier and he was fine. No way he could have died.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 01, 2014 11:20 PM (Pbi9K)
Posted by: puddleglum@work at December 01, 2014 11:20 PM (8SsiG)
But of course, I learned that from the MSM. So who knows.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:20 PM (fGApK)
UK. Anyone here actually follow things like I used to, long ago, who can comment on whether, in fact, there's any hope there?
I am assuming not. Notwithstanding the recent election trends. But welcome commentary about this.
The military trends are already pretty much at their endpoint. I remember a succession of 5 British officers, all branches with varied backgrounds (Nimrod ASW plane program manager, infantry officer who was a Scot, surface RN officer, etc.) who rotated through our office in one of our war zones. Every single one was interesting, some were the very stereotype of the British officer (witty, wordly, savvy, courageous, civilized). Every single one was contemplating early exit from their service. Budgets, morale, national will and even national mindset had orphaned their tremendous skills and devotion, which flowed right out of centuries of distinguished military history.
So, hard to be optimistic.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 01, 2014 11:20 PM (afQnV)
Speaking of which, is drinking Christmas tree water going to make my stupid dog sick? Anyone know?
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2014 11:20 PM (A/e8X)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 01, 2014 11:21 PM (AC0lD)
I'm not seeing a bunch of drug-induced rapes here. I'm seeing a bunch of women who figured boinking Cosby would be a ticket to a fabulous show-biz career, and when that failed to materialize, they dreamed up the rape story in an effort to convince themselves that they didn't (unsuccessfully) whore themselves out for a shot at the brass ring. And quite possibly Cosby knew that a certain class of young woman would try to swap a piece of ass for a shot at fame and fortune, and milked that for all it was worth. Which might make him a cad, but not a rapist.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2014 11:22 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Cheri at December 01, 2014 11:22 PM (ZFPMM)
Mass delusions are more common than we thing. Almost every year a new fashionable disease gets a lot of media attention -- and soon hundreds and thousands of people will convince themselves they have it, even manifesting the, often vague and non-specific, symptoms of the disease.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 11:08 PM (ZPrif)
Well I am skeptical of most claims about being roofied these days - just drinking yourself blotto will give almost the same effect as a roofie.
But in Cosby's case some of the women reported that he actually gave them pills to take. Apparently back then it was considered rude to not just take whatever tablet you host offered.
So this isn't just supposition on the women's part.Note that Polanski's MO was also to give a quaalude and chase it with wine.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 11:22 PM (pAlYe)
-Posted by: Weirddave at December 01, 2014 11:13 PM (KAmzK)
*HAH!* I've done it online with a "special" on computer-stuff, games, and shipping.
$150 wound-up being $320!
Looked at it again after *HITTING ENTER*
...I should have believed the CART TOTAL.
-I'm as bright as Midnight!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 01, 2014 11:22 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 01, 2014 11:19 PM (CGO1D)
I think George III was more conservative than the GOPe.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 01, 2014 11:22 PM (t//F+)
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tsrblke, congrats on the strapping li'l nipper! Let me guess, your wife is petite...
Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 01, 2014 11:22 PM (QBm1P)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 11:22 PM (b5BZa)
"Researchers Find Strategy in Dog's Sloppy Drinking"
Speaking of which, is drinking Christmas tree water going to make my stupid dog sick? Anyone know?
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2014 11:20 PM (A/e8X)
Did you add the goo packet, or was it only tree and water?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:22 PM (T1005)
oh dear
I'm no fan of Seth Rogen or some guy named James Franco, but these two "comedians" are doing a spoof of Discovery's creepy "reality" show Naked & Afraid...on Discovery.
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 01, 2014 11:22 PM (tfl8w)
They've all instead said, "I don't want anything from the man. I just want the truth to be known."
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:22 PM (fGApK)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 01, 2014 11:23 PM (rJUlF)
-Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2014 11:20 PM (A/e8X)
Not unless you add something as a "preservative" to the water.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 01, 2014 11:23 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2014 11:20 PM (A/e8X)
how does it taste?
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:23 PM (iBXmZ)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 11:23 PM (KCxzN)
I've read it isn't an apologia in the slightest, but rather a full-on comedic attack on Un and the Norks.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:24 PM (fGApK)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2014 11:20 PM (A/e8X)
maybe he was drinking gin and tonics.
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:24 PM (iBXmZ)
Perhaps plausible given the time and era he grew up in -- a black man who, even at the top of his powers and fame, still felt separate and apart and resented it.
The need to drug the girls implies some odd sexual hang-up. In that scenario the hang-up is Cosby always feeling like the attractive white girls are secretly disgusted by him for being black, secretly about to reject him at any moment and he just can't bear that, so he drugs them so he doesn't have to worry about that, doesn't have to think in his head that these girls are only here cause he's rich and famous now.
I'm still quite skeptical, but that was one plausible motive -- Cosby desperately wanting the affection of white girls, but never able to think of himself as their equal, no matter how rich and famous he became, and him resenting that fact, resenting them for making him feel that way.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 11:25 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 11:25 PM (b5BZa)
Yeah, I have a friend whose husband had a grand mal seizure at one of their rental properties. Turns out he was a coke head, and had been for years. She had no idea. None.
He was also embezzling money from their business to fund the drug habit. Turns out he'd had a drug problem as a teenager and no one bothered to tell her. Now she's got two very young children and a husband fighting rehab. Sweetest person you'd ever meet.
Posted by: Lauren at December 01, 2014 11:25 PM (BPMYx)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2014 11:25 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: nerdygirl at
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I seriously doubt it. My dog eats pine cones on a regular basis, and isn't averse to drinking dirty water out of a low spot in the yard - even with fresh water five feet awAy.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 01, 2014 11:25 PM (LFaED)
-Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 11:12 PM (pAlYe)
My Cousins on my Fathers' side are almost extinct. We've lost five of them since the mid-Eighties.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 01, 2014 11:25 PM (16bOT)
-Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2014 11:20 PM
Pine smelling dog pee in the dog-run tomorrow morning?
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 11:26 PM (KCxzN)
Like chicken.
Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 01, 2014 11:27 PM (T4t+V)
IMHO Cosby's attitude is close to your guess, i.e., "sure I did that shit, but that was a LONG time ago and I'm not like that anymore. Can't those girls just let things go???"
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:27 PM (fGApK)
Posted by: Misanthropic
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Or have your own spot on MSNBC..., and consult with El Presidente.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2014 11:27 PM (vPh3W)
They took a femur measurement for estimation of the weight.
Got 6lb 11oz now. Which apparently extrapolates to an over 9lb baby.
She is not happy . I mean she's happy, but also a bit upset.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 01, 2014 11:07 PM (HDwDg)
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Little was 12 pounds, 9.4 ounces.
No drugs.
He has his daddy's big, fat melon head.
Posted by: Gingy in Canada where it's cold at December 01, 2014 11:28 PM (KAmzK)
There were multiple top 40 hit songs about STATUTORY RAPE!
Posted by: Oschisms at December 01, 2014 11:28 PM (uqV2n)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 01, 2014 11:28 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 10:55 PM (KCxzN)
He sold a mountain of comedy albums. When I was in junior high and high school people would repeat his stuff word for word. The one about the shaving commercial was also hilarious. "Take it off, take it all off." That commercial.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2014 11:29 PM (A/e8X)
It's all those appetizers. Forty bucks worth at a sitting, I've heard.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 01, 2014 11:30 PM (T4t+V)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 01, 2014 11:30 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2014 11:30 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Gingy who is HOME at December 01, 2014 11:30 PM (KAmzK)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJFVPxBpezk
This song would be completely banned if one of today's fluffy boy bands tried to cover it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:30 PM (fGApK)
Yep, sounds jut like the KKK.
Not.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 01, 2014 11:31 PM (CGO1D)
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Good points. Many of these claims are from an era of rampant drug use and promiscuity. Cosby was a "friend of Hef".
A lot of people would go to these Playboy parties, Studio 54 style parties and ... yeah, get drunk, get high, and have hazy sex with semi-random people and not remember much the next day. And most of these people were doing it voluntarily cause it was fun. The would go back weekend after weekend, again and again.
And, of course, many later would claim, when they'd outgrown that phase of their life, that they were tricked or duped or drugged and weren't willing participants -- cause nobody wants to admit they were a drunk, pill-popping floozy.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 11:31 PM (ZPrif)
Jerry Seinfeld used to do that.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 01, 2014 11:31 PM (T4t+V)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 01, 2014 11:28 PM (nzKvP
At least back then there was real dirt & a cloud of dust. F*ck artificial turf
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 11:31 PM (b5BZa)
"You will give me sons. You WILL..."
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:32 PM (fGApK)
Well you might be able to explain away some of the accusations this way but not all.
Just google 'Carla Ferrigno' (wife of Lou Ferrigno) and read her account of how Cosby tried to rape her after a double date with Cosby and his wife and a friend of Cosby's. The only thing that saved her is that she didn't drink or do drugs. There was definitely no quid pro quo there.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 11:32 PM (pAlYe)
I still remember the cover of TIME back in the '80's when Cosby tv show was a hit and Cosby was doing ads for Jello and Polaroid, I think, and other stuff --
Fifty
and
Filthy Rich!
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 01, 2014 11:32 PM (tfl8w)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2014 11:32 PM (vPh3W)
"A different time..."
Posted by: Oschisms at December 01, 2014 11:32 PM (uqV2n)
Posted by: Justin A. Pervert at December 01, 2014 11:33 PM (16bOT)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2014 11:33 PM (vPh3W)
both wrong but not the same.
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:33 PM (iBXmZ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:33 PM (fGApK)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2014 11:34 PM (1Y+hH)
bumpty-bumpy-bumpty...CRASH!
Scrabble-scrable....POUNCE! CRASH!
Skitter-skitter THUMP! Bompity-bompity-bomp!
Posted by: Kindltot at December 01, 2014 11:34 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 01, 2014 11:34 PM (KAmzK)
Even so, he hasn't been tried and convicted of anything except in the court of public opinion.
Granted I haven't been following all of this, but I hate this online swarm mentality where every 'wrong' is tried out publicly, punishments are meted out by threatening boycotts until 'offenders' are harmed through job loss or loss of income and then the swarm moves on to the next target. And my 'media' superiors get to be the gatekeepers in deciding which public 'wrongs' are worthy public discussion?!?!?
Screw it. I don't care until there are legal prosecutions.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 01, 2014 11:34 PM (AC0lD)
The only semi-motive for Cosby I read was in one account by an accuser, a
southern blonde I think, who portrayed Cosby as being insecure and
angry about white women not liking him as much as they did white guys --
as if he was anticipating their rejection, and was almost angry he had
to get world famous for hot young white girls to notice him.
Perhaps plausible given the time and era he grew up in -- a black
man who, even at the top of his powers and fame, still felt separate and
apart and resented it.
The need to drug the girls implies some odd sexual hang-up. In that
scenario the hang-up is Cosby always feeling like the attractive white
girls are secretly disgusted by him for being black, secretly about to
reject him at any moment and he just can't bear that, so he drugs them
so he doesn't have to worry about that, doesn't have to think in his
head that these girls are only here cause he's rich and famous now.
I'm still quite skeptical, but that was one plausible motive --
Cosby desperately wanting the affection of white girls, but never able
to think of himself as their equal, no matter how rich and famous he
became, and him resenting that fact, resenting them for making him feel
that way.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 11:25 PM (ZPrif)
Let me just reiterate something I said last February....if someone has got a peculiar madness, a worldview that has a certain warp to it -- it is not wise to trace the exact path of that warp, even once....and, certainly, not enough to measure its effects on their worldview.
Humans have "mirror neurons", which were developed to simulate the worldview of those we interact with -- "oh, he's holding his foot like that, he is in pain and probably has a thorn." But they also change the thinking patterns of the observer to make the observed appear more reasonable. In the case of someone suicidal, psychopathic, or delusionally batshit crazy, this can be very bad indeed.
While it is natural and good for caring people to flock in and want to help the afflicted, there is a certain mental reserve that it is best to maintain if they are afflicted mentally,
Just sayin'.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:35 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 01, 2014 11:35 PM (JO9+V)
And the Cosby we "know" would not do these things.
I've had the same experience when people that I knew quite well were arrested for felonies. A woman I knew was arrested and convicted for seriously, physically abusing a baby she was going to adopt. She left a permanent injury. No one could have guessed that she was capable of this.
A man I knew and worked with was doing the books for a few different organizations. He was arrested and convicted of embezzlement of a significant amount of money. Again, he was the last person you would expect to do this.
You hear the news, and you think, "There has to be some mistake." Then they admit they did it and plead guilty, and their children and spouses go through hell.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2014 11:17 PM (A/e8X)
Yup.
I knew a cop many years ago, a man who seemed to be the nicest dude ever, who got busted for stealing tons of charity money.
Posted by: eman at December 01, 2014 11:36 PM (MQEz6)
Scrabble-scrable....POUNCE! CRASH!
Skitter-skitter THUMP! Bompity-bompity-bomp!
I paint this!
Posted by: zombie Salvador Dali at December 01, 2014 11:36 PM (2gNPB)
Who also had an appetite.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2014 11:36 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:36 PM (iBXmZ)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:36 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 01, 2014 11:36 PM (tfl8w)
(I recall that Cosby is black, 'cuz I saw him a few times in the old "I Spy" series with Robert Culp, a Kennedy look-alike who played in the infamous "Bob, Ted, Carol, and Alice"; on tv before my parents blessed us with NO tv.)
All of 'em white? With all the hot, gullible, striving young black women around back then?
Even a statistically significant under-representation of black women in the victim class should merit an investigation by Eric Holder. Prima facie evidence that Cosby is not an equal opportunity rapist.
Posted by: CuSO4 works against the slime oozin' out from your tv set, too at December 01, 2014 11:36 PM (fBW52)
There were multiple top 40 hit songs about STATUTORY RAPE!
And at least 1 about cannibalism! (Timothy by The Bouys)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 01, 2014 11:37 PM (KAmzK)
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 01, 2014 11:37 PM (tfl8w)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 01, 2014 11:35
Not married I take it?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 11:37 PM (b5BZa)
Speaking of which, is drinking Christmas tree water going to make my stupid dog sick? Anyone know?
Posted by: nerdygirl at
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I seriously doubt it. My dog eats pine cones on a regular basis, and
isn't averse to drinking dirty water out of a low spot in the yard -
even with fresh water five feet awAy.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 01, 2014 11:25 PM (LFaED)
cthulhu: "Less filling!"
Tucker: "Tastes great!"
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:37 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Jackson Pollock at December 01, 2014 11:37 PM (vPh3W)
But yet, I am at a quandry to describe the moral difference between slipping a woman a pill to make her horny and one to make her pass out.
Posted by: Oschisms at December 01, 2014 11:38 PM (uqV2n)
- He knows the allegations are true. Yet, he's convinced his wife Camille, and his surviving daughters, that all of it's bullshit.
So, if the stuff is true, IMHO the *best* thing would be for him to come out, cry, do his best public mea culpa, and let the press have its pounds of flesh.
So he'd get his career back, and lose his family. The exact opposite of what he has now: a close family, and a rapidly diminishing/collapsing career.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:38 PM (fGApK)
..."Nah - I was way too young for all that shit. I just had loser
cousins who were way into drugs and picked up info by osmosis. (The
cousins also ened up becoming anti-drug cautionary tales )."
-Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 11:12 PM (pAlYe)
My Cousins on my Fathers' side are almost extinct. We've lost five of them since the mid-Eighties.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 01, 2014 11:25 PM (16bOT)
Holy crap, that's awful. You've managed to shock me.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:39 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 01, 2014 11:39 PM (10ydV)
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Huh, the world view I was postulating for Cosby wasn't that weird - a guy with a deep-seated sort of racial self-loathing that he was able to hide from the world, but which manifested when it came to relations with women.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 11:39 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Oschisms at December 01, 2014 11:40 PM (uqV2n)
It's a gordian knot, to be sure, if the allegations are true.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:40 PM (fGApK)
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 10:44 PM
Good luck w/ that idea. We are Beatles fans but that looks very far in the distance in the era of Obama.
I'm wondering what John Lennon would think of an Obama presidency. Would he still drink the leftist coolaid or realize this is crazy leftist BS. Who knows. Yoko is still a wacko.
Posted by: Farmer at December 01, 2014 11:40 PM (o/90i)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:22 PM (T1005)
Tree and water.
She seems okay and did it a couple of times since Friday. I keep filling her water bowl, but she isn't the brightest light on the Christmas tree, if you get my drift.
Beagles are sweet dogs but they aren't known for their brains.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2014 11:40 PM (A/e8X)
70 Wife had a 35 week, 3 day ultrasound today.
They took a femur measurement for estimation of the weight.
Got 6lb 11oz now. Which apparently extrapolates to an over 9lb baby.
She is not happy . I mean she's happy, but also a bit upset.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks! at December 01, 2014 11:07 PM (HDwDg)
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Little was 12 pounds, 9.4 ounces.
No drugs.
He has his daddy's big, fat melon head.
Posted by: Gingy in Canada where it's cold at December 01, 2014 11:28 PM (KAmzK)
Wow. Ow.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:40 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Jackson Pollock at December 01, 2014 11:40 PM (vPh3W)
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:40 PM (iBXmZ)
Not for 10 years now. I sorta forgot about connubial zombie sex. *shivers*
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 01, 2014 11:41 PM (JO9+V)
Oh, man, I almost bit on that line. You don't even have to be married to get the "fine, just hurry" followed by the sigh.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 01, 2014 11:41 PM (Pbi9K)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2014 11:29 PM[i/]
We run in the same pack. Cosby was the comedy staple of my jr. high & high school life.
To this day, I still have to wear Depends to listen to "To Russell, My Brother, Whom I Slept With".
OMG "The Belt" bit made the whole album
"We had never seen The Belt.....
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 11:41 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 01, 2014 11:41 PM (o2Jt2)
Well from the stories I've read Camille knows all about it. Maybe not the most sordid parts but there's no way for her to not know about all the woman and Cosby's proclivities. I suspect she made her deal with the devil a long time ago in return for her current lifestyle.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 11:41 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:41 PM (iBXmZ)
Oh, and I'm home.
Posted by: Gingy who is HOME at December 01, 2014 11:30 PM (KAmzK)
Yay!!!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:41 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Oschisms at December 01, 2014 11:38 PM (uqV2n)
If she's horny, in theory she's still in control of her faculties.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 01, 2014 11:42 PM (10ydV)
http://tinyurl.com/lcsbbg3
Loved this comment: "How many banana trees will be harmed in the making of this film?"
Posted by: Thrawn at December 01, 2014 11:42 PM (Oo0Xc)
Some body on (i think) Powerline said: In my grandparent's day, a young women would not visit a young man without a chaperon ... I expect in my grandchildren's time, a young man will not visit a young lady without a lawyer and a notary ...
Posted by: Adriane the Social Critic ... at December 01, 2014 11:43 PM (P+IZm)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:43 PM (fGApK)
Basically what I got from that jeans article is that I can get some jeans for a small deposit. And done.
Thanks for the Dog Slurp article Maet, I always wondered about that... which maybe I shouldn't admit... so anyway I am now in the jeans for sale business for just a little bit more that a small deposit plus shipping.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 01, 2014 11:44 PM (NtzGn)
That is not to say that it is possible, under the theory, to say that a given ontogeny is a pinnacle, or even an advanced stage, of a given phylogeny.
Among social carnivores, dholes reduce conflict wonderfully in feeding by eating as rapidly as possible. Compare the wolf, or the lion.
Posted by: yet, consider the dhole at December 01, 2014 11:44 PM (fBW52)
what's the movie with the great line: Finish him!!?
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 01, 2014 11:44 PM (tfl8w)
and read her account of how Cosby tried to rape her after a double date
with Cosby and his wife and a friend of Cosby's. The only thing that
saved her is that she didn't drink or do drugs. There was definitely no
quid pro quo there.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 11:32 PM (pAlYe)
So he made a pass at Carla Ferrigno, but didn't actually rape her, right.. Which fits in just fine with the "cad, not rapist" theory.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2014 11:44 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 01, 2014 11:44 PM (JO9+V)
213 "Not married I take it?"
Oh, man, I almost bit on that line. You don't even have to be married to get the "fine, just hurry" followed by the sigh.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 01, 2014 11:41 PM (Pbi9K)
Just couldn't help myself
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 11:45 PM (b5BZa)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2014 11:44 PM (8Fl6F)
Did you actually read the story?
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 11:45 PM (pAlYe)
It wasn't that, it was what you did the night/decade before.
Posted by: Oschisms at December 01, 2014 11:45 PM (uqV2n)
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 01, 2014 11:46 PM (o2Jt2)
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 01, 2014 11:46 PM (tfl8w)
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 10:44 PM
Good luck w/ that idea. We are Beatles fans but that looks very far in the distance in the era of Obama.
I'm wondering what John Lennon would think of an Obama presidency.
Would he still drink the leftist coolaid or realize this is crazy
leftist BS. Who knows. Yoko is still a wacko.
Posted by: Farmer at December 01, 2014 11:40 PM (o/90i)
Someone once noted that looking rationally at the existence postulated in "Imagine", it looks very much like Hell.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:46 PM (T1005)
Most people who blackout from drinking ... it's not like they have narcolepsy and fall unconscious from the moment they lose memory.
In fact, usually they behave normally -- well, normal for a drunk person. It's just that alcohol interfered with their memory formation so they can't remember what they said or did.
That's a problem for the various Consent Apps for iPhones to get girls to verbally consent to sex and record it as a defense against rape -- that's no defense against an intoxication or drugging charge.
When people who drink a good bit start to blackout, their behavior usually isn't any different than before ... they just don't remember afterwards.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 11:46 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 11:47 PM (KCxzN)
Did you add the goo packet, or was it only tree and water?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:22 PM (T1005)
Tree and water.
She seems okay and did it a couple of times since Friday. I keep
filling her water bowl, but she isn't the brightest light on the
Christmas tree, if you get my drift.
Beagles are sweet dogs but they aren't known for their brains.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2014 11:40 PM (A/e8X)
I wouldn't worry much about the tree. You might want to toss the goo packet -- someplace with a lid bungied-shut.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:47 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2014 11:48 PM (vPh3W)
The exact opposite of what he has now: a close family, and a rapidly
diminishing/collapsing career.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:38 PM (fGApK)
Well, if he managed to astutely save and invest his money, he can walk away from his career, and live comfortably without ever having to work another day in his life. But, if he loses his family, he loses.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2014 11:49 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: fairweatherbill bucking the wind at December 01, 2014 11:49 PM (hI9z9)
Y-not our oldest male setter just slobbers all over the place. Fricking slob
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 11:00 PM
Our lab just laps up the water, the other day I counted and I stopped her at 31 slurps.
Labs tend to eat and drink too much if you don't watch them.
Posted by: Farmer at December 01, 2014 11:49 PM (o/90i)
"Not married I take it?"
Oh, man, I almost bit on that line. You don't even have to be married to get the "fine, just hurry" followed by the sigh.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 01, 2014 11:41 PM (Pbi9K)
What's the old one about the difference between a one-night stand, a mistress, and a wife?
"Are you done, already????"
"Are you done yet?"
"Beige. I think we'll paint the ceiling beige...."
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:50 PM (T1005)
And that's the settlement I'd imagine Cosby is taking: he's going to have no choice but to let himself drift out of the spotlight, with these allegations over his head forever, in order to keep his family intact.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:50 PM (fGApK)
Keeping that fact secret was important to his American Dad image and income and could explain his strenuous efforts to keep the stories out of the press -- could even explain the settlement as a desire to just pay to keep his playboy lifestyle out of the news.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 11:50 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 01, 2014 11:51 PM (AkoL+)
Well you're no quaalude expert - nor am I. But from what I've read and seen about mixing quaaludes and alcohol I doubt there was enthusiastic anything going on afterwards. People died from that combination so I suspect just passing out was the likelier option over enthusiastic-but-unremembered sex.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 11:51 PM (pAlYe)
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Hmmm, that's a really good question.
Posted by: Orenthal James S. at December 01, 2014 11:51 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:52 PM (fGApK)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 01, 2014 11:52 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:52 PM (fGApK)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:52 PM (fGApK)
Doesn't say much for the hospitality of the Playboy Mansion.....oh...that.
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 01, 2014 11:53 PM (o2Jt2)
The fuck?! Oh, shit. Is this what roofies feel like?
Posted by: t-bird at December 01, 2014 11:53 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:52 PM (fGApK)
well that is not illegal
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:53 PM (iBXmZ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:52 PM (fGApK)
well that is not illegal
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:53 PM (iBXmZ)
or is this a real "dating" site?
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 01, 2014 11:46 PM (tfl8w)
*******
Saw that ad one night and thought the same thing. So, I looked. I threw my eyes under the bus in order to say to you....Just don't. That which has been seen can not be unseen.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 01, 2014 11:53 PM (/RpVl)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2014 11:54 PM (Dj0WE)
Image-streaming taught me how my own memory could be tricked.
During image-streaming, you imagine the sights, sounds, tastes, smells and physical sensations of objects in your mind and describe them out loud. At advanced levels, you do much of it silently, meaning that over the course of the hour, you can 'create' and 'experience' much more than if you simply described everything out loud.
As an experiment, over the course of a week or two, I chose to imagine a happier high school life hanging out with my cooler friends 'Bob' and 'Ted' - I think their names were. But I remembered what it was like sitting with them in the school cafeteria with the pretty school girls sitting on my lap flirting with me, hanging out with people, car rides. And I 'remembered' all of the sensory details of those times, even though they didn't exist.
But I did that enough times, in enough depth, that if I were to think about high school, I sort of have to separate what really happened versus my 'created' memories.
And this was just a simple personal experiment.
I wonder what bitter, disappointed, disillusioned people could construct over the course of decades and how real would it appear to them.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 01, 2014 11:54 PM (AC0lD)
Harbinger of doom
It may start in England....
"These people can't be hung, Sir. But they ought to be killed." --James Bond to M, in "For Your Eyes Only", Ian Fleming, 1960.
Posted by: they will neither enter paradise, nor Heaven, nor Valhalla at December 01, 2014 11:54 PM (fBW52)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:54 PM (fGApK)
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 10:44 []
jebusuez, could you give us a trigger warning before you spout that shit?
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 11:54 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Lauren at December 01, 2014 11:55 PM (BPMYx)
I was convinced after the first dozen or so women made the claim, even if just one was true that makes him a rapist.
But my opinion was solidified by the old guy that worked for him that talked about basically having to act as Cosby's pimp and lookout, and delivering alot of cash and money orders on his behalf to many women. Then Cosby totally dissed him when he had enough and decided to retire.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 01, 2014 11:55 PM (NtzGn)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 11:55 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 01, 2014 11:55 PM (Pbi9K)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2014 11:55 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 11:41 PM (pAlYe)
BC is worth about $400,000,000--that buys a lot of silence with some women--Ray Rice knocked his fiancee/wife out cold and DRUG her through a parking garage rather than carry her and she is still stumping for him to get an NFL job. They also had 5 children, with 4 still living, for a lot of women that is enough to stay married.
I have no patience with Mrs. Rice, you knock me out cold and drag me anywhere, you best get yourself long gone before I wake up.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at December 01, 2014 11:55 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 11:56 PM (KCxzN)
There were multiple top 40 hit songs about STATUTORY RAPE!
Posted by: Oschisms at December 01, 2014 11:28 PM (uqV2n)
Yup.
"Hot Child in the City" by Nick Glider:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-eVxtuMR0o
"Francine" by ZZ Top:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v--dFfte8rs
"Jailbait" by Ted Nugent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDQnsJWPu2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v--dFfte8rs
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 01, 2014 11:56 PM (lN8KC)
The stories never seem to get any more lurid. They're all just basically the same thing: went to Cosby's room, blacked out, etc etc.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:56 PM (fGApK)
Posted by: Mike in the Hinterlands at December 01, 2014 11:57 PM (DNpio)
Awful lot of smoke. Just allegations but makes you go "Hmmm."
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 01, 2014 11:57 PM (Pbi9K)
He was HUGE on PBS children's television in the late 1960s and early 1970s, on top of the Fat Albert Show.
I remember seeing him often on Sesame Street and The Electric Company.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:57 PM (fGApK)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 01, 2014 11:58 PM (lN8KC)
Posted by: joncelli at December 01, 2014 11:09 PM
Best wishes to you and your family.
T
Posted by: Farmer at December 01, 2014 11:58 PM (o/90i)
I m'self mentioned I Spy way up yonder. Last time I watched Cosby. Seriously. Never saw one second of his big later show, whenever that was and whatever it was called.
Wow. And that's waaaaay before the web and these blogs. Somehow I managed to completely miss major prime time TV culture for decades.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 01, 2014 11:58 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:59 PM (iBXmZ)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 01, 2014 11:59 PM (T4t+V)
Posted by: mugiwara at December 01, 2014 11:59 PM (3a584)
OMG.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:59 PM (fGApK)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 01, 2014 11:59 PM (bHnlE)
Ehhhhhhh.
Some people have their hang-ups.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:00 AM (Pbi9K)
Modern media means people can coordinate stories through the media -- often unconsciously.
With the Ferguson testimony, the prosecutor remarked how the witness testimony would change as new information was released by the media. There was no organized conspiracy. Some were lying and knew they were lying -- but many honestly believed they'd seen it.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 02, 2014 12:00 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 01, 2014 11:51 PM (AkoL+)
---
Bountiful.
Posted by: Gingy who is HOME at December 02, 2014 12:00 AM (KAmzK)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2014 12:00 AM (Dj0WE)
Doh!!!
Posted by: katie couric at December 02, 2014 12:01 AM (T4t+V)
Posted by: Garrett at December 02, 2014 12:01 AM (SSdi9)
Posted by: n at December 01, 2014 11:59 PM (iBXmZ)
So, a top flight NFL athlete is too puny to pick up a slim young woman and carry her to the vehicle, so puny that he had to DRAG her through a garage. I bet her torn up feet looked great after that.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at December 02, 2014 12:01 AM (kXoT0)
-Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 11:56 PM (KCxzN)
*HAH!*
That was the latest "Hail Mary" I've ever seen!
-Good thing it wasn't necessary!
*High-Five!*
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:02 AM (16bOT)
It's a "built-in function" for your brain -- and, under normal circumstances, highly useful. Driving in moderate traffic without it would be nearly suicidal. But, being hard-wired, people don't think about its limits and dangers -- I mean, what are the limits and dangers of air, right?
But when someone's thoughts have turned to the harm of themselves or others, and repeatedly deepened the groove of that fixation into their worldview, tracing it will put a similar scratch into your own. And if you go around a few times, that scratch will deepen and deepen -- where the trace you'd normally take to pop out of there will be more and more obscured. Which is why it's time to flirt with an 'ette, try be wittier than a 'ron, and have another beer.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 12:02 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 01, 2014 11:45 PM (pAlYe)
I have now. The Fox News story. He made a pass at her, grabbed her, and kissed her. Did not rape her, because she pushed him away forcefully, I guess. Sounds like a guy who was used to getting his own way, but who had to have some sort of a glimmer of consent from the woman. Sounds like there was a line he would no cross.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2014 12:02 AM (8Fl6F)
Its a terrible dillema and I think its why the story is sort of lurching along in a confused fashion. That, and having lying trash like Janice Dickinson jumping on the bandwagon doesn't help matters any.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 12:03 AM (39g3+)
you knock me out cold and drag me anywhere, you best get yourself long gone before I wake up.
Oooog ooog Ooooog!
Posted by: Ooog the Caveman at December 02, 2014 12:03 AM (NtzGn)
You're not serious, are you?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2014 12:00 AM (Dj0WE)
well yes, but. I am saying I did not see any evidence of premeditation. he was standing in the elevator and she ran across and he smacked her.
Posted by: n at December 02, 2014 12:03 AM (iBXmZ)
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 10:44 []
jebusuez, could you give us a trigger warning before you spout that shit?
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2014 11:54 PM (KCxzN)
SORRY!!!!!
Like I said, the more you really examine the platitudes he spouts, the worse it sounds.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 12:04 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2014 12:02 AM (8Fl6F)
Sounds more like to me that as a successful sexual predator, he knew she would be a poor victim and backed off.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at December 02, 2014 12:04 AM (kXoT0)
Yuck.
Oh, there's worse out there. Note the phrase "has not showered for 12 years."
http://tinyurl.com/nzef3l4
Posted by: Splunge at December 02, 2014 12:04 AM (qyomX)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 02, 2014 12:05 AM (KCxzN)
Posted by: *sounds it out* at December 02, 2014 12:05 AM (fBW52)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2014 12:05 AM (vPh3W)
After he spit on her, and slapped her.
It was premeditated, his arm was cocked and ready. Men who hit women are always ready. This is not his first time hitting her. It won't be his last.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2014 12:06 AM (Dj0WE)
That guy did a fantastic job. He's right. I believe that several of those witnesses were not in fact outright lying but their memory just failed them. I've read that a lot. Perjury charges would not be appropriate.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:06 AM (Pbi9K)
Interesting that he never had another hit after that song (in 1980).
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 02, 2014 12:06 AM (fGApK)
-Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2014 12:05 AM (vPh3W)
I love that tune!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:06 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 02, 2014 12:07 AM (tfl8w)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 02, 2014 12:07 AM (fGApK)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 01, 2014 11:55 PM (ZPrif)
Yes. And so what?
Some of the women reported waking up while Cosby was having sex with them and struggling to try and get away. Which seems to fly in the face of your unremembered-but-enthusiastic-sex theory.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 02, 2014 12:07 AM (pAlYe)
292 275 - You're not serious, are you? Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2014 12:00 AM (Dj0WE) well yes, but. I am saying I did not see any evidence of premeditation. he was standing in the elevator and she ran across and he smacked her.
Posted by: n at December 02, 2014 12:03 AM (iBXmZ)
IT WAS JUST AN ACCIDENT! HE DIDN'T MEAN IT! HE REALLY DOES LOVE AND CARE FOR ME! HE SAID HE WAS SORRY!!!!
Posted by: Plenty of other victims of spousal abuse at December 02, 2014 12:07 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: rhomboid
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Sorry I missed your post. At least there are two of us that never saw any other Cosby shows.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2014 12:07 AM (vPh3W)
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 02, 2014 12:07 AM (tfl8w)
While everyone screams at Lemon for his question its not all that crazy when you think about it. Cosby didn't have a gun on anyone. He didn't have a knife, he wasn't threatening their careers. Why didn't they fight back if they thought it was rape?
I don't mean to defend the guy, but... it is a good question, isn't it?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 12:09 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at December 02, 2014 12:09 AM (kXoT0)
The only things that saved it were:
- The Cosby Show.
- Miami Vice.
And to a lesser extent, Johnny Carson's Tonight Show.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 02, 2014 12:09 AM (fGApK)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:09 AM (Pbi9K)
Still sharp.
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer
Oh boy! I can't wait to not turn that on.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2014 12:10 AM (s9AKD)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:10 AM (16bOT)
Though it was from 1981, this Oingo Boingo song ( video) takes the cake for creepy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 01, 2014 11:58 PM (lN8KC)
I would suspect that Danny Elfman's outlook on the subject was a helluva lot more healthy than Roman Polanski's.....and that's what he was mocking in the video (and song).
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 12:10 AM (T1005)
Posted by: pull vs push... it's key at December 02, 2014 12:10 AM (fBW52)
WFB had an excellent column on that stupid song a number of years ago
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2014 12:10 AM (b5BZa)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2014 12:06 AM (Dj0WE)
Yep.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at December 02, 2014 12:11 AM (kXoT0)
I am personally predicting that the Bill Cosby thing will fade away."
The controversy and his career. He's 77. He doesn't have long and his work has dried up as a result.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:11 AM (Pbi9K)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:47 PM (T1005)
Now that I think of it, it didn't come with a goo packet. I've never bought a Christmas tree that had one. I've had cut flowers that came with a packet to put in the water, but not a tree.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 02, 2014 12:12 AM (A/e8X)
--
You seem hung up on the word enthusiastic. And you keep assuming facts and taking stories at face value.
I'm treating things with skepticism. There is zero physical evidence. A story does not disprove anything.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 02, 2014 12:12 AM (ZPrif)
Sam Cooke for sure though - "She Was Only Sixteen" worth a listen http://tinyurl.com/nxab7qd
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2014 12:12 AM (vPh3W)
The stories paint a picture of a guy who actually gets off on having his women drugged and inert. Not saying they're true, just saying I don't think you've captured the essence. I hope they are not true. Cosby has enriched my life with his comedy. But I do wonder.
Posted by: Splunge at December 02, 2014 12:12 AM (qyomX)
Exactly. And I was curious what it would be like to change thoughts around and scratch happier memories of high school into my mind. And I did it over and over creating memories that were out of the experience of my chess club captain, Dungeons and Dragons reality - just funner, happier memories where I was more popular, since I was doing image streaming anyways.
After that experiment, I can definitely see how small, negative thoughts and fantasies, played over and over, made more and more elaborate as they are scratched further and further into the brain can lead to scary crap.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 02, 2014 12:12 AM (AC0lD)
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2014 12:10 AM (s9AKD)
*punches your arm*
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:12 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2014 12:13 AM (s9AKD)
I think people are reluctant to believe such a funny, warm, family seeming guy would do such thing. But he's always been a womanizer and partier, so its not exactly impossible to imagine.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 12:14 AM (39g3+)
He is still quick at age 5,307.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:14 AM (16bOT)
You must be a Shemp fan.
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at December 02, 2014 12:14 AM (tfl8w)
It was premeditated, his arm was cocked and ready. Men who hit women are always ready. This is not his first time hitting her. It won't be his last.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2014 12:06 AM (Dj0WE)
I did not see the spitting I only saw him hit her once.
Posted by: n at December 02, 2014 12:15 AM (iBXmZ)
Posted by: Ooog the Caveman at December 02, 2014 12:15 AM (NtzGn)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 02, 2014 12:15 AM (fGApK)
I'm probably 51-49 that Cosby did it. But the evidence is weak.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 02, 2014 12:16 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December
Take it you are not a fan?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2014 12:16 AM (b5BZa)
"
I dont know what youre talking about.
Posted by: Anti PIV radfem at December 02, 2014 12:16 AM (BPMYx)
Posted by: weft
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Perhaps oddest observation I've seen here.
I don't disagree..., I just can't digest it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2014 12:16 AM (vPh3W)
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2014 12:13 AM (s9AKD)
...and if dry penetration were Big Bird, you'd build the nest!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:16 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 02, 2014 12:05 AM
You've obviously never seen the sex tape of my marriage night?
Wedding Cake. It's a wonder what it can't do.
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 02, 2014 12:16 AM (KCxzN)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 12:04 AM (T1005)
WFB had an excellent column on that stupid song a number of years ago
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2014 12:10 AM (b5BZa)
Let's just say that you can assume ANY reference I make to its lyrics is ironic, rejectionist, critical, compelled, or false.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 12:17 AM (T1005)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2014 12:17 AM (s9AKD)
I like Rickles. I haven't heard him enough over the years to get tired of his repetitive schtick."
Yeah, I always liked Rickles. He was a little over-animated but he kinda brought about the insult comic thing. He'd play Hell with Johnny Carson and Carson would bring him back all the time.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:17 AM (Pbi9K)
Posted by: Plenty of other victims of spousal abuse at December 02, 2014 12:18 AM (zt+N6)
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I have known at least one compulsive liar, who I believe managed to convince himself that his stories were true. Probably by continually running them through his head as fantasy.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2014 12:18 AM (vPh3W)
I recommend his autobiography very highly. Its hilarious but its also very humble and warm and personal. And it has some very, very cool stories of the old days with Sinatra etc.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 12:18 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:18 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2014 12:18 AM (b5BZa)
Posted by: THE BARREL at December 02, 2014 12:18 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at December 02, 2014 12:04 AM (kXoT0)
Agreed. he wanted women who consented, or who could be duped into thinking they had consented. Which might explain the pills. But what woman in her right mind would take an unknown pill from a guy she had just met, even a famous guy? And when confronted with a woman who did not consent, and who forcefully pushed him off her, he probably said to himself, "cool it, dude, this one will cry RAPE".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2014 12:19 AM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 02, 2014 12:19 AM (T4t+V)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2014 12:02 AM (8Fl6F)
Only because she was able to resist and wouldn't let him.
I heard an interview with her on the radio and she went into more detail. This was not a pass-gone-bad - it was sexual assault and if she hadn't been able to resist and make a scene, it would have probably ended up as a rape.
And again if it had been just this one incident, you could explain it away as aggressiveness mixed with misread intentions. But after hearing a number of these with similar behavior on Cosby's part, I see it as the pattern of a sexual predator who prefers pliant or unconscious victims.
You only get so many he-said-she-said 'misunderstandings' in your life before people start to make inferences about what the common factor is.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 02, 2014 12:19 AM (pAlYe)
Posted by: buzzion at December 02, 2014 12:19 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Old Blue at December 02, 2014 12:19 AM (vVSOO)
Seems fine with this pessimist to be a skeptic, but he isn't in legal court, this is the court of public opinion so....
What is your opinion? do you think he drugged and raped at least one of those women? is it unlikely, likely, very likely or very unlikely?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 02, 2014 12:20 AM (NtzGn)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2014 12:20 AM (vPh3W)
People seem to be avoiding this but yeah its getting pretty close. Its just a nasty issue and no matter how you paint it, it seems very likely Cosby certainly pushed the line at the very least.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 12:20 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 02
Guess Wm. J. Clinton has a few more to go
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2014 12:21 AM (b5BZa)
I wouldn't worry much about the tree. You might want to toss the goo packet -- someplace with a lid bungied-shut.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 01, 2014 11:47 PM (T1005)
Now that I think of it, it didn't come with a goo packet. I've never
bought a Christmas tree that had one. I've had cut flowers that came
with a packet to put in the water, but not a tree.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 02, 2014 12:12 AM (A/e8X)
True fact: before they had hops to make beer yummy, they'd use pine resin to perform the same chemical functions (keep bad bacteria from outcompeting the yeast, preserve after fermentation, flavoring....). If it were me and there was no goo packet, I wouldn't even bother to train around it -- five weeks and the tree'll be out at the curb.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 12:21 AM (T1005)
I've got that beat!
Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 02, 2014 12:22 AM (T4t+V)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 02, 2014 12:23 AM (KCxzN)
I agree, but who knows maybe something will happen none of us expect.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 12:23 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:24 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:24 AM (Pbi9K)
So this I can answer. When someone is doing something you just said not to do your first feeling is that you're crazy. It's very surreal, especially if you were having a pleasant, normal time up until that point. And that complicates the situation because you clearly said no, but now you're going along with things implicitly by not running away screaming and so things are even more murky.
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 12:24 AM (BPMYx)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2014 12:25 AM (b5BZa)
The man has worked with many people over the years. I think it says something that I haven't heard of a single one of them coming out to defend him.
Posted by: AD at December 02, 2014 12:27 AM (IYzA+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:27 AM (Pbi9K)
Posted by: Baldy at December 02, 2014 12:27 AM (+35FH)
believe managed to convince himself that his stories were true. Probably
by continually running them through his head as fantasy.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2014 12:18 AM (vPh3W)
And when all of his advisers tell him the economy is getting better, he is doing a great job as President and he no one in the media ever criticizes him, how could that compulsive liar not believe he is this generations' Ronald Reagan?
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 02, 2014 12:27 AM (AC0lD)
I had to go thru a screening process, and after the third question I was like WTF are you asking for this stuff to the intake nurse - and she described the problem. I had nice MRIs of my stones and was under he care of a urologist, but the screen was still policy.
The kink is - that any of the handling is down with you unconscious and there is significant pain later. So these clowns are doing it just so they can think about being touched later.
Posted by: Jean at December 02, 2014 12:28 AM (TETYm)
Posted by: Bill Cosby, pudding salesman at December 01, 2014 11:08 PM (9BRsg)
I thought he made everyone around him refer to him as "Dr. Cosby"?
I'm pretty sure Lisa Bonet was one of the women raped, and the other was probably Tempestt Bledsoe since Sabrina LaBeuaf was a little too old for the Cos at that time. He liked em just like Winger, Seventeen.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at December 02, 2014 12:28 AM (+Fae7)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/539300026145861632
If you're wondering what kind of name that is, she was born in Uzbekistan
Posted by: kbdabear at December 02, 2014 12:28 AM (GrXXa)
I'm treating things with skepticism. There is zero physical evidence. A story does not disprove anything.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 02, 2014 12:12 AM (ZPrif)
Well stories and reports from people are all that we have.
Well that plus Cosby's refusal to deny any of the reports.
So are all the stories false or so fundamentally wrong that they're effectively false? Because that's what it would take at this point to declare Cosby not guilty of being a rapist.
And it's not like I'm not skeptical - some of the stories do in fact seem like golddiggers who got more than they bargained for - but as the number of stories build up skepticism can only go so far. At a certain point the most likely scenario becomes that the women are simply telling the truth.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 02, 2014 12:28 AM (pAlYe)
Why didn't they fight back if they thought it was rape?
Drugs are a helluva drug.
Posted by: Ooog the Caveman at December 02, 2014 12:15 AM (NtzGn)
Besides that, coming-to with a cock in you* has got to be a seriously dislocating experience. It's not like you have a day-or-two to suss things out. I remember waking up after my wisdom teeth were extracted -- I felt like I'd been a sack of potatoes thrown against the wall.....how exactly did I get there? Is this reasonable? Where am I, and how does that relate to the last places I've been? I can wiggle ten fingers, that's good.....
It's not like you wake up from sedation with an instantaneous grasp of what has happened previously, a total inventory of your energy levels and resources, and a clear mind with which you can form a plan to fight off a rapist before the next stroke.
*not that I ever have....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 12:28 AM (T1005)
Yeah, true. Nobody running out to defend him so far.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:30 AM (Pbi9K)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/539474843729932288
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/539475067739328513
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/539475275835527168
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/539475425693802498
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/539566723561951232
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/539567195047866368
Posted by: kbdabear at December 02, 2014 12:30 AM (GrXXa)
"Seriously, if Funny were the capitol of Idaho, Don Rickles would still suck cock."
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2014 12:13 AM (s9AKD)
...and if dry penetration were Big Bird, you'd build the nest!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:16 AM (16bOT)
You, sir, are on my bucket list. I cannot depart this planet without meeting you.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 12:30 AM (T1005)
Cosby was a serial philanderer and rapist, apparently.
There were rumors at the time, but they were discounted and hushed up.
His fame protected him.
The exact same thing can be said about Bill Clinton.
It's like...The Tale of Two Bills.
But Cosby has become disposable because he has dared to stray from the official narrative of the Black Grievance Industry.
So it's a twofer...destroy Bill Cosby and lay the ground work for doing the same thing with Bill Clinton.
Who would do this? ...Those who want to get rid of Hillary's chances in 2016.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 12:30 AM (ymKM0)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 01, 2014 11:35
Not married I take it?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2014 11:37 PM
Ya know you really can't call a threadwinner in an ONT this early. But I'm suggesting this is a competitor.
Posted by: Farmer at December 02, 2014 12:31 AM (o/90i)
How about jacking-off to a Suicide Hotline attendant, eh?
Whatever happened to calling the Operator and pretending that the dog is humping the cat?
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:31 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:31 AM (Pbi9K)
Thats because you have a heart.
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 12:31 AM (U7H1n)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2014 12:21 AM (b5BZa)
Not as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 02, 2014 12:31 AM (pAlYe)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:32 AM (16bOT)
Yep, it's a horrible question when it gets asked by so-called professionals: "why didn't you fight back?"
Well you see, officer/doctor/nurse/whomever, the human brain tends to operate on the fight or flight principle, and when you are a female, being raped is an event that overwhelms this normal human process. The next option for the human brain is: freeze.
That's how it works.
Accusing the victim of somehow not doing enough to fend off her attacker is what they call in the biz, re-victimizing. It's a shitty thing to do to a person who has just been raped, and sadly it happens way way too often.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2014 12:32 AM (Dj0WE)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/539567441303851008
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/539567775023644672
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/539568428617850880
Posted by: kbdabear at December 02, 2014 12:33 AM (GrXXa)
He's just some drunk guy. Pay him never no mind.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:34 AM (Pbi9K)
Weirddave,
Sort of sounds like the Washington State health exchange. As I have been perusing and comparing plans it is obvious that on the site they all look good and will cover my needs. However, when I examine the plans off site I find they are loaded with special exemptions and are all narrow silos that make straying very expensive. Fortunately I did my off-site research before pulling the trigger.
I tried to find a Tin plan but no such luck. I will poke around the private market and see what is available. Maybe they can beat the state.
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 02, 2014 12:35 AM (8gT9T)
-Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:34 AM (Pbi9K)
*HAH!*
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:35 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:30 AM (Pbi9K)
In Hollywood, if you want a loyal friend, get a dog
Posted by: kbdabear at December 02, 2014 12:35 AM (GrXXa)
Posted by: Aztec Priests, local 87983747 at December 02, 2014 12:35 AM (UVfht)
And it will start a new "national conversation" on domestic violence against women.
All to pave the way to guilt The Hag or Chief Wampum into the WH.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 02, 2014 12:36 AM (QCo5R)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2014 12:21 AM (b5BZa)
Not as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 02, 2014
Oh I agree with you. But, he certainly has a rehabilitated aura about him. I just spit when I see him.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2014 12:36 AM (b5BZa)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2014 12:36 AM (afQnV)
389 Yeah, true. Nobody running out to defend him so far. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:30 AM (Pbi9K) In Hollywood, if you want a loyal friend, get a dog
Posted by: kbdabear at December 02, 2014 12:35 AM (GrXXa)
Or Robert Downey Jr.
Posted by: Mel Gibson at December 02, 2014 12:36 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:36 AM (16bOT)
"You, sir, are on my bucket list. I cannot depart this planet without meeting you."
He's just some drunk guy. Pay him never no mind.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:34 AM (Pbi9K)
He's not just some drunk guy.....he's a 'ron.
ZZZzzzzzzzzzz........
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 12:37 AM (T1005)
Let me play too, and muddy the waters a bit.
he wanted women who consented, or who could be duped into thinking they had consented. Which might explain the pills.
- AOP
There's a theory? concern? someting ... going around colleges (or WAS going around somewhat recently) that some women drink heavily at parties as it makes having upcoming sex (psychologically?) much easier. Doubtless, there were at least 1 or 2 women back in the 60's and 70's who would do anything to get a career, and sex was apparently the door-opener in Hollywood ... being unconscious likely made the event
The point it to watch for this line of reasoning re. Cosby.
Posted by: Arbalest at December 02, 2014 12:37 AM (FlRtG)
Hint: it's not that some people thought they were black.
It's not that inorgasmic single abortion consumers thought they were the bomb.
It's not donkey cock...
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jwx2swl
They all like boys.
Posted by: just a few quetions b4 we dcidecwut t'do wit ya at December 02, 2014 12:37 AM (fBW52)
"We can fix that for you!"
-Posted by: Aztec Priests, local 87983747 at December 02, 2014 12:35 AM (UVfht)
No too shabby.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:38 AM (16bOT)
Look into health cost shares. They each have different requirements and structures, but it sure beats any of the government insurance crap.
The ones I know about are
Liberty Health Share (you don't have to be Christian for this one, but you do for all the others)
Christian Healthcare Ministries
Christian MediShare
Samaritan Ministries.
Full disclosure, we are with CHM.
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 12:38 AM (BPMYx)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:39 AM (Pbi9K)
Posted by: Just Below Zero at December 02, 2014 12:39 AM (16bOT)
As a group my department at work has gone to the local Tilted Kilt a few times. They don't hire ugly girls, but these are better than the average I've seen.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 02, 2014 12:39 AM (UVfht)
Who would do this? ...Those who want to get rid of Hillary's chances in 2016.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 12:30 AM (ymKM0)
_________________________
DingDingDing!
Posted by: Oschisms at December 02, 2014 12:40 AM (uqV2n)
Accusing the victim of somehow not doing enough to fend off her attacker is what they call in the biz, re-victimizing.
It could also just be an honest question trying to understand what is going on by people who imagine themselves in the situation and what they believe they would do. I mean it doesn't have to be some cruel brutality, does it?
I can see if someone has a weapon on you but if not? Its just confusing to someone who's never experienced anything like that.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 12:40 AM (39g3+)
-Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:39 AM (Pbi9K)
Damn-Good, amigo! I started hanging the Christmas lights today. The show just got off the roof. *cough* two days ago.
How's life treating you, Sir?
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:41 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:41 AM (Pbi9K)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:41 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Old Blue at December 02, 2014 12:42 AM (vVSOO)
Or that the moment he opens up his mouth about them any of the NDA's he's gotten the women to sign that he has paid off to shut up become null and void and they too can start talking.
Posted by: buzzion at December 02, 2014 12:42 AM (zt+N6)
*High-Five*
Posted by: ColdBeer1
Look out! It's the High-Fivin' White Guys!
http://youtu.be/FYafV2dN6vg
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2014 12:44 AM (s9AKD)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:43 PM
Agreed.
Posted by: Farmer at December 02, 2014 12:44 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:44 AM (Pbi9K)
-Posted by: Old Blue at December 02, 2014 12:42 AM (vVSOO)
As a Child of the Eighties, I agree. The simple "taking-off of the glasses" and "letting down of the hair" was an "all-of-a-sudden-HOT" theme.
Redheads and freckles are also a HUGE weakness of this Super-Goof.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:44 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 02, 2014 12:44 AM (b5BZa)
-Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:44 AM (Pbi9K)
*HAH!*
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:45 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:45 AM (16bOT)
Any man who knows of Almost Live is all right by me. Too bad Speed Walker turned out to be such a putz
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 12:46 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 02, 2014 12:47 AM (KCxzN)
In Hollywood, if you want a loyal friend, get a dog
Posted by: kbdabear at December 02, 2014 12:35 AM (GrXXa)
I don't disagree with that in general, but Roman Polanski has his defenders. Woody Allen had his defenders. Cosby also worked with some people who are probably retired at this point and don't have to worry about ever working again.
Either he must have really pissed them all off or they figured something like this was coming at some point and there's no use sticking their necks out for him.
Posted by: AD at December 02, 2014 12:48 AM (IYzA+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:50 AM (Pbi9K)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2014 12:50 AM (s9AKD)
I think I'm just going to stop having heroes altogether.
Cosby is so guilty you can see it from space. I think we're a couple of weeks away from his tearful apology. God, how I hate "the dance" where we have to go through weeks and weeks of "these allegations are outrageous" before we get to the tearful apology (wherein the guy is only sorry he got caught).
Posted by: RKae at December 02, 2014 12:51 AM (nS7gU)
Or that the moment he opens up his mouth about them any of the NDA's he's gotten the women to sign that he has paid off to shut up become null and void and they too can start talking.
Posted by: buzzion at December 02, 2014 12:42 AM (zt+N6)
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That's an excellent point!
That's what happened to Herman Cain, isn't it.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 12:51 AM (ymKM0)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 02, 2014 12:52 AM (KK+mC)
http://youtu.be/FYafV2dN6vg"
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2014 12:44 AM (s9AKD)
I couldn't get the audio, but *HAH!* I actually dressed like those guys in the Eighties and I sort-of look like the dude in the glasses... LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3QF0T4auQc
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:52 AM (16bOT)
Or that the moment he opens up his mouth about them any of the NDA's he's gotten the women to sign that he has paid off to shut up become null and void and they too can start talking.
Posted by: buzzion at December 02, 2014 12:42 AM (zt+N6)
I imagine his lawyer is telling to say nothing or give additional fuel to the coming lawsuits. And this is coming out now because these women have all decided that Cosby's age means that he might not be around much longer and trying to sue his estate for money is a lot harder. All it took was for one to pop up and start the accusations and the rest fall in line lest they get left out of the goldmine.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 02, 2014 12:53 AM (euPfy)
Posted by: Old Blue at December 02, 2014 12:53 AM (vVSOO)
Hmm, let me see if I can find a good analogy. It's like if you're having tea with someone and they ask you if you'd like cream and you say no, you don't. Then they pour in the cream. So you may say "oh, sorry I didn't want cream" and they just stare at you and ask how it tastes. And then perhaps you more forcefully tell them you didn't want cream, and they just ignore your completely or add more.
Now, obviously one solution would be to freak the hell out on the crazy cream pourer, but I would imagine that a good portion of people would feel pretty gaslit by the situation. Someone is explicitly ignoring you, yet acting like you requested the action. It's so outside social norms that any response seems bizarre.
Now add in being in an intoxicated state and you have a recipe for even more confusion and mistrust of your own perceptions.
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 12:53 AM (BPMYx)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Odd how no one brings up his credentials during his 'science' sermons.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2014 12:53 AM (s9AKD)
What's the old one about the difference between a one-night stand, a mistress, and a wife?
----------------
When I heard that one, it was a nympho, a hooker, and a wife.
Posted by: junior at December 02, 2014 12:54 AM (N+HLW)
The Lame team was great too, rockers like Soundgarden headbanging and yelling LAME!
So many great bits on that show. They really need to collect that show. Such funny stuff, especially if you live in the Northwest.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 12:55 AM (39g3+)
That's what happened to Herman Cain, isn't it.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 12:51 AM (ymKM0)
And Rachel Uchitel. She got $8 million dollars in hush money from Tiger Woods and all she had to do was never talk about Tiger Woods in public again.
But she couldn't keep her mouth shut and ended up having to give all the money back.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 02, 2014 12:55 AM (pAlYe)
let's not go there."
-Posted by: AltonJackson at December 02, 2014 12:47 AM (KCxzN)
I saw "All Stabby N' Shit" open for "2 Live Crew" in '88 at Tha 'Porioum.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:56 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 12:56 AM (16bOT)
Downey Jr
Posted by: The Dude at December 02, 2014 12:57 AM (SyKbw)
Young, people pleasing me? It turns out not so much.
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 12:57 AM (BPMYx)
Reece on feminists: "They'rejust pissed coz they're not hot enough to be strippers."
Posted by: otho at December 02, 2014 12:57 AM (tBSrv)
How is someone going to "defend" him. Were they there in the room? No. So what are they going to say, Bill Cosby would never go into a hotel room with a willing woman , expecting sex with her? Or, yeah, Bill said that all these women keep tricking him into going into hotel rooms with him and then he had to fight them off.
Let's be real here. And also remember this was 40 years ago.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 02, 2014 12:57 AM (euPfy)
Who would do this? ...Those who want to get rid of Hillary's chances in 2016.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 12:30 AM (ymKM0)
_________________________
DingDingDing!
Posted by: Oschisms at December 02, 2014 12:40 AM (uqV2n)
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Thanks.
It's the only thing that makes sense to me.
I mean...why is all this coming out, now?
Bill Cosby is an old dude now, he's not still raping women.
It all happened a long time ago.
It's 'justice' of course, for the women he raped.
And that's good.
But this could've easily stayed a big secret that stayed a secret until Cosby was dead.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 12:58 AM (ymKM0)
Downey Jr
Posted by: The Dude at December 02, 2014 12:57 AM (SyKbw)
Lindsey Lohan?
Posted by: Jen the original at December 02, 2014 12:58 AM (euPfy)
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 12:59 AM (BPMYx)
Downey Jr
Posted by: The Dude at December 02, 2014 12:57 AM (SyKbw)
Lindsey Lohan?
Posted by: Jen the original
Fatty Arbuckle.
... Ok, so I suck at this game. FU!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2014 12:59 AM (s9AKD)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 02, 2014 01:00 AM (KCxzN)
Posted by: The Dude at December 02, 2014 12:57 AM (SyKbw)
Falls under the drug exception as listed above. And even then it took about 3 or 4 offenses before it got serious.
And Downey really is the exception that proves the rule.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 02, 2014 01:00 AM (pAlYe)
Posted by: The Dude at December 02, 2014 01:00 AM (SyKbw)
Posted by: Martha Stewart at December 02, 2014 01:00 AM (16bOT)
Yeah, true. Nobody running out to defend him so far.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 02, 2014 12:30 AM (Pbi9K)
He stepped off the plantation to criticize the hip hop culture. It was fine before the Age of Obama, but since Obama has embraced the hip hop/rap culture, what he is saying is a critique of the emperor, thus he must be destroyed even if he is one of the members of the court.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at December 02, 2014 01:00 AM (+Fae7)
429 "I can see if someone has a weapon on you but if not? Its just confusing to someone who's never experienced anything like that." Hmm, let me see if I can find a good analogy. It's like if you're having tea with someone and they ask you if you'd like cream and you say no, you don't. Then they pour in the cream. So you may say "oh, sorry I didn't want cream" and they just stare at you and ask how it tastes. And then perhaps you more forcefully tell them you didn't want cream, and they just ignore your completely or add more. Now, obviously one solution would be to freak the hell out on the crazy cream pourer, but I would imagine that a good portion of people would feel pretty gaslit by the situation. Someone is explicitly ignoring you, yet acting like you requested the action. It's so outside social norms that any response seems bizarre. Now add in being in an intoxicated state and you have a recipe for even more confusion and mistrust of your own perceptions.
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 12:53 AM (BPMYx)
Bar Rescue and Kitchen Nightmares. Taffer and Ramsey have both mentioned how most people are not going to complain or cause as scene if the food/service is terrible or some creepy guy is making the girls uncomfortable. They're just going to leave or not come back. People tend to want to avoid conflict.
Posted by: buzzion at December 02, 2014 01:00 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 01:01 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Jen the original at December 02, 2014 12:58 AM (euPfy)
Fails the popular and financial success criteria.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 02, 2014 01:01 AM (pAlYe)
-Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 12:59 AM (BPMYx)
I think that was Paris Hilton and I can't even scrape from whence I would know that.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:02 AM (16bOT)
When you look at this amazing and talented group, you just have to think.....where were their affirmative action quotas when they assembled this band, anyway?
Getting away from the satire -- I was fortunate enough to see 'em live. They were all that.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:02 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Jen the original at December 02, 2014 01:02 AM (euPfy)
It's Obama's rape of the health insurance market that is affecting my life every day though.
Posted by: somemomo at December 02, 2014 01:02 AM (B5RxW)
Accusing a dead person actually causes more damage to the accuser, IMHO
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 01:02 AM (U7H1n)
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The song had other, unintended, uses, however. In college I had an Asian friend who was incredibly cute... and very short. I used to tease her about the song.
Posted by: junior at December 02, 2014 01:03 AM (N+HLW)
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 01:03 AM (BPMYx)
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Bloughme was a good man, and one of my illustrious ancestors.
Posted by: Heywood Jablome at December 02, 2014 01:03 AM (MPK82)
...I just went pedant on everyone last week and I screw-up a possessive versus a contraction.
*grabs flail from attic*
-BRB
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:04 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 01:04 AM (BPMYx)
That's what happened to Herman Cain, isn't it.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 12:51 AM (ymKM0)
And Rachel Uchitel. She got $8 million dollars in hush money from Tiger Woods and all she had to do was never talk about Tiger Woods in public again.
But she couldn't keep her mouth shut and ended up having to give all the money back.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 02, 2014 12:55 AM (pAlYe)
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Oh, I didn't know about that.
So...if these women who were paid to keep their mouths shut about Cosby, speak up now...and try to sue for more money, they may have to give back what they were paid before?
Seems like it would, at the very least, make it harder for them to sue now for more money.
If they were paid to keep quiet, before.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:05 AM (ymKM0)
Posted by: Jen the original at December 02, 2014 12:57 AM (euPfy)
Roman Polanski has plenty of defenders. And none of them were around him when he drugged and sodomozied a teenage girl.
Posted by: buzzion at December 02, 2014 01:05 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 01:06 AM (39g3+)
-Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 12:53 AM (BPMYx)
You simultaneously described growing up in San Francisco and Chicago.
*applesauce*
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:07 AM (16bOT)
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I saw a brief snippet from one of his daughters the other day. Apparently the daughter in question had a drug problem back in the day, and it got leaked to the press. She says her Dad leaked it to deflect sudden press attention on his womanizing.
Posted by: junior at December 02, 2014 01:07 AM (N+HLW)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 01:07 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: somemomo at December 02, 2014 01:07 AM (B5RxW)
Posted by: eman at December 02, 2014 01:09 AM (MQEz6)
Former Cosby co-worker: "I'm shocked at these allegations. I've always known Bill to be a great guy and find it hard to believe he would ever do something like this."
It's not that difficult. it's what I'd say if some I worked with, who I thought was a good guy, was accused of this.
So what are they going to say, Bill Cosby would never go into a hotel room with a willing woman , expecting sex with her?
Well, he was married at the time, so if they thought he was a stand-up guy, yeah.
Let's be real here. And also remember this was 40 years ago.
These accusations span two decades, including the prime of Cosby's career. A lot of people worked with the guy during this time and would have formed their own opinions of what kind of man he was.
Posted by: AD at December 02, 2014 01:09 AM (IYzA+)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:02 AM (T1005)
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I loved Oingo Boingo...even have their original album around here somewhere.
You saw them live? ...I'll bet that was epic.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:11 AM (ymKM0)
Posted by: somemomo at December 02, 2014 01:07 AM (B5RxW)
It's a lot of it - but there also the fact that juries just don't want to convict a celebrity. You can go into the psychological reasons why but it's a fact and prosecutors know this.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 02, 2014 01:11 AM (pAlYe)
Big Sob story.... with absolutely NO mention of the Bosnian who got hammered to death...
Willfull blindness...
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at December 02, 2014 01:12 AM (f0pWu)
Downey Jr
Posted by: The Dude at December 02, 2014 12:57 AM (SyKbw)
LA's celebrity wing of the jail isn't like real jail. That is where they almost always end up, never in some shithole jail.
Most places will allow them to just pay a huge fine or do some "community service" (hanging out with government workers) to get out of their sentence.
Plus, California and NY will bend over backwards to make sure that celebrities don't get into trouble.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at December 02, 2014 01:14 AM (+Fae7)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at December 02, 2014 01:14 AM (+Fae7)
Celebrities... and illegal immigrants...
Its almost like there is a double standard about the law....
/facepalm
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at December 02, 2014 01:15 AM (f0pWu)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 01:15 AM (39g3+)
"Danny Elfman, lead vocal and guitar,"
Snort!
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 01:03 AM (BPMYx)
Wha? You want "lead vocal and occasional fill guitar"?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:16 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 02, 2014 01:16 AM (0atFl)
No no, I was trying to laugh at the "changeling" part, but my computer decided to cut off the last part so it became nonsensical.
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 01:17 AM (BPMYx)
as reported by news media
for political reasons.
The only thing missing is the CIA or the KGB, and they're probably involved somewhere.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 02, 2014 01:18 AM (ONOez)
I suppose I can see each of those two aspects being large wins over the general public. The justice system is pliable with lots of cash from what I've seen in life. The celebrity + resources combo would be pretty formidable in court, I can see your point essentially adding to 'the untouchable' concept being put forth.
Posted by: somemomo at December 02, 2014 01:18 AM (B5RxW)
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 01:18 AM (BPMYx)
http://tinyurl.com/kegb82v
The kid is very good looking...but he's got dead eyes.
I'm glad he's being charged as an adult.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:18 AM (ymKM0)
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 01:17 AM (BPMYx)
Yup.... its all the evil computers fault...
Really.... be careful... its out to get you....
Posted by: Max Headroom at December 02, 2014 01:19 AM (f0pWu)
Damn it, I was snorting over the changeling line, my computer just decided not to copy that part.
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 01:04 AM (BPMYx)
Ah, ok. It's not like it isn't obvious, though.....I mean -- a weirdly talented ginger named "Elfman" -- do you tend to miss freeway offramps much?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:19 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 01:20 AM (BPMYx)
I'm an author and that damn its/it's thing still gives me fits. I'm not sure I'll ever work it out.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 01:07 AM (39g3+)
Let it roll and leave it for the copyeditor.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:21 AM (T1005)
Can someone talk about hot chicks at work?
Oh, wait! I can!
As a tanning-salon owner you get to see some "choice" ladies. I'm talking about "Magazine-Level" women, let-alone the strippers and High School girls.
Here's the STUPIDEST question you can ask a tanning-salon owner:
"Where are the cameras?"
...huh. Never heard that before, dude.
"They're right where I expect to stop earning money for a living!"
As a business owner, it was my job to produce income. Ogling the "guests" was NOT a good idea. Playing to their egos, on the other hand?
*heh*
"The Girl Next-Door" was a constant. I saw her every single day. Sweet, innocent girls and women alike. Beautiful, tanned, exquisite, learned, stupid, boisterous, demure ladies.
...and that's where the story starts.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:22 AM (16bOT)
If they don't add a HATE crime to it...
as he was yelling kill the whitey...
Then Race Relations in this country will get even worse IMO.
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf (formerly Romeo13) at December 02, 2014 01:22 AM (f0pWu)
453 -- I was fortunate enough to see 'em live. They were all that.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:02 AM (T1005)
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I loved Oingo Boingo...even have their original album around here somewhere.
You saw them live? ...I'll bet that was epic.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:11 AM (ymKM0)
They were. IIRC, Cyndi Lauper opened, if you can stop laughing....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:23 AM (T1005)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 02, 2014 01:24 AM (fGApK)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:25 AM (16bOT)
If they don't add a HATE crime to it...
as he was yelling kill the whitey...
Then Race Relations in this country will get even worse IMO.
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf (formerly Romeo13) at December 02, 2014 01:22 AM (f0pWu)
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You're right. They should add 'hate crime' to the charges.
Because, yeah...he was going down the street yelling "Kill the white people!"
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:25 AM (ymKM0)
"Wha? You want "lead vocal and occasional fill guitar"?"
No no, I was trying to laugh at the "changeling" part, but my
computer decided to cut off the last part so it became nonsensical.
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 01:17 AM (BPMYx)
You do realize that all the other verbiage is there to set that up, don't you?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:25 AM (T1005)
-Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:23 AM (T1005)
"True Colors" is still one of my favorite tunes. She's an oddball lesbian, but some of her tunes were pretty damn good.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:27 AM (16bOT)
Worst quote fail ever.
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 01:27 AM (BPMYx)
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 01:28 AM (BPMYx)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 02, 2014 01:07 AM (39g3+)
Forget it Jake. Itsa racket. Organized crime. The rich and powerful keeping good ideas suppressed. It has always been that way. You could try to buy your way in, but then they own you.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 02, 2014 01:28 AM (ONOez)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:32 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:33 AM (16bOT)
When is it ever correct to use...its...without the apostrophe?
It's -- is a contraction of "it + is".
So it gets an apostrophe.
Then, when it's is used in a 'possessive' tense...it gets an apostrophe too, no?
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:34 AM (ymKM0)
Posted by: Spock, from Spock vs Q at December 02, 2014 01:36 AM (FlRtG)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:27 AM
Not exactly my cup of tea, but Cyndi Lauper was pretty good during a time of much style over substance. She did at least 3 truly great tunes... "Girls... ", "True Colors" and "Time after Time". Killer singles and memorable. She dun gud.
Posted by: otho at December 02, 2014 01:36 AM (tBSrv)
-Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:34 AM (ymKM0)
No.
Its is possessive.
It's is a contraction.
English is odd, madame!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:37 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:37 AM (ymKM0)
429 "I can see if someone has a weapon on you but if not? Its just confusing to someone who's never experienced anything like that." Hmm, let me see if I can find a good analogy. It's like if you're having tea with someone and they ask you if you'd like cream and you say no, you don't. Then they pour in the cream. So you may say "oh, sorry I didn't want cream" and they just stare at you and ask how it tastes. And then perhaps you more forcefully tell them you didn't want cream, and they just ignore your completely or add more. Now, obviously one solution would be to freak the hell out on the crazy cream pourer, but I would imagine that a good portion of people would feel pretty gaslit by the situation. Someone is explicitly ignoring you, yet acting like you requested the action. It's so outside social norms that any response seems bizarre. Now add in being in an intoxicated state and you have a recipe for even more confusion and mistrust of your own perceptions.
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 12:53 AM (BPMYx)
Bar Rescue and Kitchen Nightmares. Taffer and Ramsey have both mentioned how most people are not going to complain or cause as scene if the food/service is terrible or some creepy guy is making the girls uncomfortable. They're just going to leave or not come back. People tend to want to avoid conflict.
Posted by: buzzion at December 02, 2014 01:00 AM (zt+N6)
Having a bunch of drunks around is bad for business. Yes, they may buy some drinks, but the people that they chase away will buy a whole lot more booze, and top shelf booze at that.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at December 02, 2014 01:39 AM (+Fae7)
"Time After Time" is also good in my book! "Girls" is something I left to the ladies, but it was a "fun" song.
I'm such an Eighties goofball!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:39 AM (16bOT)
Yes, yes. I was trying to quote the entire from Danny Elfman to changeling. But changeling got cut off.
Worst quote fail ever.
Posted by: Lauren at December 02, 2014 01:27 AM (BPMYx)
It allowed me to present my canned "defense", so there's that.
It's really the joke that keeps on giving. Incidentally, Danny Elfman is the uncle of actor Bodhi Elfman, who is married to Jenna Elfman, of Dharma + Greg.
It would have been a hoot-and-a-half if Hugh Jackson had him in as an elf in The Hobbit XXVI: "I haven't done squeezing money out of this pig."
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:39 AM (T1005)
ISTR Cosby was a hospital corpsman during his 4 years in the Navy. So he has some familiarity with drugs. This likely deepened when he was a fullback on the Temple football team. FWIW.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2014 01:40 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Jean at December 02, 2014 01:40 AM (TETYm)
-Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:37 AM (ymKM0)
Negative, Ghostrider. The pattern is full.
...only in the contraction.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:41 AM (16bOT)
"Hate crime". Wish serious people would ridicule and vehemently object to this idiocy. It is a prime example of the dumbing down of our judicial system and culture to please, well, the effectively dumber people who have dominated both for some time.
Aggravating circumstances has always been a mechanism for prosecutors and juries to come down harder on bad guys guilty of particularly heinous acts. "Hate" is not a crime, nor can it be under oursystem, if that system is to retain two of its best traits - a humility about the limits of what courts and juries can do (peering into souls) and respect for individual freedom.
Personal acquaintance/sports team mate back when this whole "hate crime" thing got started at the federal level was a fairly high level guy with a major civil rights outfit. When I brought it up in the locker room, he just rolled his eyes, and said please don't even ask him about it (indicating his contempt for the whole ridiculous exercise, in which his organization was a player).
Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2014 01:42 AM (afQnV)
Posted by: Jean at December 02, 2014 01:40 AM (TETYm)
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I hope they've got the Girlfriend in a safe location.
She was in the car...and saw the whole thing.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:42 AM (ymKM0)
-Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2014 01:40 AM (u82oZ)
And so the Plot Thickens.
Posted by: The Guy What Talks About the Plot Thickening at December 02, 2014 01:43 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap)
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I always liked the song too. IIRC, a few artists did cover versions.
Phil Collins comes to mind.
And I'm glad the topic changed from that depressing crap...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 02, 2014 01:44 AM (BDTqv)
Posted by: Farmer at December 02, 2014 01:46 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2014 01:42 AM (afQnV)
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The quickest way to get this 'Hate Crime' business destroyed...would be to charge one of Barky's Angelswith a hate crime against white people.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:46 AM (ymKM0)
Phil Collins comes to mind.
And I'm glad the topic changed from that depressing crap..."
-Posted by: shredded chi at December 02, 2014 01:44 AM (BDTqv)
Have you seen the Mother and the two Daughters doing the Cindi Lauper tunes?!? -With the violin and the viola?
If not... Dood!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:46 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:47 AM (16bOT)
New concepts, telephone, telegraph, instagram. Words that were nouns become verbs, texting, sexting, docxing.
Standard spelling becomes old fashion as hipsters change the spelling of common words to be cool. Slang, gang signs, tattoos, and secret code words 'social justice'.
It's cool in Hollywood to be sexually promiscuous until it's not. Drugs are cool, until they're not. Smoking tobacco is cool, until it isn't. Rich and famous is cool, until it makes you a target. Not being rich and famous makes you a loser until someone notices that you look good on camera, speak well to a receptive audience and then you have to be destroyed because you are a competitor.
Forget it Jake. Plant a garden, raise alpacas, and sell them to hipsters as 'service animals'.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 02, 2014 01:47 AM (ONOez)
No apostrophe in the possessive?
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:37 AM (ymKM0)
Possessive pronouns never take an apostrophe. His, hers, its. And for that matter yours, theirs and whose. No apostrophes, ever, for any of them.
Posted by: CQD at December 02, 2014 01:48 AM (tcvYF)
...We'll take it from here.
"Slap and the Gang".
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:49 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: otho at December 02, 2014 01:36 AM (tBSrv)
"Girls just wanna have fun" is a cover.
The original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aLNwOxPsjg
Posted by: Hats just wanna have fun. at December 02, 2014 01:52 AM (lN8KC)
I'm shocked that a Bosnian wasn't packing. Every former Yugo I've met over here buys guns before food.
Posted by: Jean at December 02, 2014 01:40 AM (TETYm)
I worked at a place in Silicon Valley that had, by chance, three assembly guys working for the engineers in the early days. One Hispanic, one Vietnamese, and one Bosnian. In the early years, whenever they had a position, they'd ask the workforce if they knew anyone -- half the time, it'd be a cousin.
After the company got to about 300 employees, this led to some extremely humorous peculiarities. For example, if someone dropped a robot onto someone's foot, everyone involved would swear in Spanglish, regardless of what language they'd grown-up with. Evidently, Vietnamese and Bosnian suck at swearing, and even Spanish can use a little help. Most of the parts were referenced in English, but the operations tended to be Spanish. "Empuje, Empulle" were most often used.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:52 AM (T1005)
Have you seen the Mother and the two Daughters doing the Cindi Lauper tunes?!? -With the violin and the viola?
If not... Dood!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at
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Well, no. But I will check YouTube after I switch laundry from washer to dryer... Name?
Oh - and Time After Time is also a really good song.
(Yes, you can almost tell how old I am by my taste in music)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 02, 2014 01:53 AM (4fW0K)
"Slap and the Gang".
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:49 AM (16bOT)
gotta reboot anyway.
device driver has crashed.
Microsoft can't tell me which one
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 02, 2014 01:53 AM (ONOez)
No apostrophe in the possessive?
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:37 AM (ymKM0)
Possessive pronouns never take an apostrophe. His, hers, its. And for that matter yours, theirs and whose. No apostrophes, ever, for any of them.
Posted by: CQD at December 02, 2014 01:48 AM (tcvYF)
A quick guide to that:
http://bit.ly/1vLkLyY
Posted by: Bob the Angry Flower at December 02, 2014 01:53 AM (lN8KC)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:39 AM
Chick anthem or not, "GJWHF" is a brilliantly crafted dance pop tune. I don't give a damn, it is a fucking classic that just jumped out of the radio. I give credit where it's due and it was a masterpiece of AM fun.
Posted by: otho at December 02, 2014 01:54 AM (tBSrv)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2014 01:54 AM (u82oZ)
No apostrophe in the possessive?
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:37 AM (ymKM0)
Possessive pronouns never take an apostrophe. His, hers, its. And for that matter yours, theirs and whose. No apostrophes, ever, for any of them.
Posted by: CQD at December 02, 2014 01:48 AM (tcvYF)
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Ah!
Yes yes...this rings a distant bell in my memory banks.
I know that I learned this in school. But it was a long time ago, and I couldn't remember the rule.
Thanks for the explanation.
I was thinking to meself..."But nouns get an apostrophe in the possessive, so..."
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:54 AM (ymKM0)
510 I'm shocked that a Bosnian wasn't packing. Every former Yugo I've met over here buys guns before food.
Posted by: Jean at December 02, 2014 01:40 AM (TETYm)
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I hope they've got the Girlfriend in a safe location.
She was in the car...and saw the whole thing.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:42 AM (ymKM0)
I thought I saw that he was a 6-month newlywed. FFS, she was in the car?!?!!?!?
Fuckkkkk, Slap, gt in here, I can't see th escreen..
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:55 AM (T1005)
-Posted by: CQD at December 02, 2014 01:48 AM (tcvYF)
^^^THIS GUY^^^
+1
My remedial English is thanks to numerous fictional books that I'd read throughout the years. I can't keep my tenses straight when I prolong ideas into paragraphs.
My writing skills are self-descriptive and personal.
-My only "skill" is knowing how to spell words and placing them correctly into sentences.
...most often.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:56 AM (16bOT)
I saw the first one. (Long after it came out.)
Never saw any of the others. I did see about three minutes of clips of some hideous film with Jar Jar and Natalie Portman, but I couldn't tolerate even that small amount. Not even the slightest interest in any subsequent prequel or whatever.
Bill Cosby? I had that album of him holding a volleyball -- Why Is there Air? I think it was called.
I thought he was a '60s comedian. And nothing more.
Since I did not own a television in the '80s and '90s, I was totally unaware that he even had a TV show. Never seen one second of it.
Sometimes I feel like a Tibetan yak herder who just wandered into Times Square after 40 years on the Tibetan plateau, frozen in a yurt. Most modern culture is foreign to me.
Posted by: zombie at December 02, 2014 01:56 AM (K4YiS)
No apostrophe in the possessive?
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:37 AM (ymKM0)
Possessive pronouns never take an apostrophe. His, hers, its. And for that matter yours, theirs and whose. No apostrophes, ever, for any of them.
Posted by: CQD at December 02, 2014 01:48 AM
Hmm what's going on?
Posted by: Farmer at December 02, 2014 01:58 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2014 02:00 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Music Critic ... at December 02, 2014 02:00 AM (P+IZm)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 02:00 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Adriane loves the Misspelling Dictionary ... at December 02, 2014 02:02 AM (P+IZm)
That old saying has new life thanks to unrestricted immigration. Hmm.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2014 02:02 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Farmer at December 02, 2014 01:58 AM (o/90i)
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It's Christopher Taylor's fault.
He started it.
[see 467]
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 02:03 AM (ymKM0)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:55 AM (T1005)
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Yeah. I read it in the initial reports...and then, it hasn't been mentioned any more.
Which is probably a good thing.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 02:05 AM (ymKM0)
-Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:55 AM (T1005)
Oh knock-it-off. ...lol.
Here's something I often wonder:
Elipsis are a three-period "exclusion" of words, right? Maybe? There is no "rule" on how many periods are required to ...you know. ...right?
Are there any spacing-rules with the elipsis? Such as:
I use them as written above. Should I use them as such?:
There is no "rule" on how many periods are required to... you know... [right?
I apply the elipsis with a space before the three periods. Should I stick the elipsis to the sentence instead?
-Curious in Cleveland
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:06 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Jean at December 02, 2014 02:06 AM (TETYm)
Posted by: Gingy who is HOME at December 01, 2014 11:30 PM (KAmzK)
Yay!!!!!
That's awesome. You did your sister right now just relax, if you can.l
Posted by: Farmer at December 02, 2014 02:06 AM (o/90i)
Fuckkkkk, Slap, gt in here, I can't see th escreen..
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:55 AM (T1005)
Saw a taped statement from her today...
She says the last thing he did, was push her back out of the way... saving her life...
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf (formerly Romeo13) at December 02, 2014 02:07 AM (f0pWu)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:07 AM (16bOT)
...most often.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 01:56 AM (16bOT)
That's probably better than I do. I'm a grammar Nazi's worst nightmare.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 02:07 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Jean at December 02, 2014 02:09 AM (TETYm)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:09 AM (16bOT)
Ve luff it when you commenter here, no?
Posted by: Grammarians in Munich .. at December 02, 2014 02:10 AM (P+IZm)
Posted by: eman at December 02, 2014 02:10 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 02:11 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 02:12 AM (FMbng)
-Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 02:07 AM (FMbng)
I just misspelled "ellipsis". On a journey to find Wrong-Doing in my own basic English!
I am a poor-ass pedant!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:13 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Adriane the Pop Music Critic ... at December 02, 2014 02:00 AM
Hahahaha... Yeah. Weird Al rocks. The guy is a pop genius. I reckon he's done some "covers" that were better than the originals. "Fat" is better than "Bad". "Couch Potato" is better than "Lose Yourself". "Ebay" is better than "I want it this way". The list goes on....
Posted by: otho at December 02, 2014 02:15 AM (tBSrv)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:06 AM (16bOT)
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I use the ellipsis when I'm shortening someone's comment, as I've done with yours.
And I 'stick it' to the sentence.
I don't know if there are any rules about how many dots to use.
I usually use just three...because to use more might be annoying.
And I use the ellipsis for a 'pause' in the sentence.
Because, sometimes just a comma doesn't seem like enough.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 02:15 AM (ymKM0)
Websters-New-World-Misspellers-Dictionary/dp/0671468642/
Posted by: Adriane loves the Misspelling Dictionary ... at December 02, 2014 02:15 AM (P+IZm)
Glad Gingy made it home safe ... and Happy Ultrasound for tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 5 (short) weeks!
Posted by: Adriane loves the Misspelling Dictionary ... at December 02, 2014 02:18 AM (P+IZm)
"Fuckkkkk, Slap, gt in here, I can't see th escreen.."
-Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 01:55 AM (T1005)
Oh knock-it-off. ...lol.
Here's something I often wonder:
Elipsis are a three-period "exclusion" of words, right? Maybe?
There is no "rule" on how many periods are required to ...you know. ...right?
Are there any spacing-rules with the elipsis? Such as:
I use them as written above. Should I use them as such?:
There is no "rule" on how many periods are required to... you know... [right?
I apply the elipsis with a space before the three periods. Should I stick the elipsis to the sentence instead?
-Curious in Cleveland
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:06 AM (16bOT)
Except that my hands went slack when I teared up. I'm back now.
Zemir Begic was a man who died in defense of what he loved most. He deserves a remembrance.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 02:18 AM (T1005)
I am a poor-ass pedant!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:13 AM (16bOT)
When I was trying to learn Egyptian hieroglyphs and latin I had to actually read up on English because I didn't know the frigging terms they were throwing at me. Genitives, tenses, etc etc. I was like yeah right, lick my genitives you moldy mummy bastard
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 02:19 AM (FMbng)
I heard someone claim once that Lennon turned very right near the end of his life and even supported Reagan (Lennon was shot in Dec 1980 after RR was elected but before the inauguration). I would love to believe it's true but I don't find it credible.
Posted by: FOAF at December 02, 2014 02:20 AM (eVemY)
Lord, God of all Things, may your bless the family and friends of Zemir Begic with the Wisdom to Grateful that Such a Man Lived and the Strength to deal one day at a time with the brutal way that he died.
Posted by: Adriane ... at December 02, 2014 02:22 AM (P+IZm)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 02:19 AM (FMbng)
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Haaaaa!
You tell 'em, Berserker.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 02:22 AM (ymKM0)
-Curious in Cleveland
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:06 AM
Maybe. It's late and my capacities may be diminished. Hope you find the truth.
Posted by: Farmer at December 02, 2014 02:22 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: Pedantic Grammar Bro The Greater at December 02, 2014 02:23 AM (FlRtG)
Posted by: FOAF at December 02, 2014 02:20 AM (eVemY)
Yeah, you would have to prove that to me also. All I know is that when my relatives were getting shot up in Vietnam the fuck face was having his hipster douchebag sit-ins.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 02:24 AM (FMbng)
Talk Like an Egyptian!!!!
Posted by: Not The Bangles ... at December 02, 2014 02:26 AM (P+IZm)
I'm probably too late, but here goes:
Have your wife repeat frequently, hand on her bulge:
"Better two weeks early than two weeks late. Better two weeks early than two weeks late ...."
Worked for me with my 95th percentile head circumference baby bump (more room for braaains!)
PS - My condolences to your lovely lady - is it too late for a C-section?
Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at December 02, 2014 02:27 AM (eDZbN)
And it helps too, when the volume is going up and down, and it's hard to make out some of the dialogue.
I've noticed that they use the ellipsis whenever someone is pausing a bit in a sentence.
So...I think that's where I got it in my head to use it in my comments.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 02:29 AM (ymKM0)
May your divine grace salve the harms of violence and charter future for them both.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 02:30 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Ellipsis Louie Farrah-Khan at December 02, 2014 02:30 AM (Wuv+a)
Posted by: Not The Bangles ... at December 02, 2014 02:26 AM (P+IZm)
Fuck Anubus. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 02:30 AM (FMbng)
Because, sometimes just a comma doesn't seem like enough.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 02:15 A
And this would be why I keep stopping here. We do have a heritage.
Posted by: Farmer at December 02, 2014 02:31 AM (o/90i)
No, Sir. Thank you for the invite, but I'll find my own way to my own prayers as God takes me.
I "sign-up" for very few sites and I block most "scripts" because Google wants to probe my colon.
My sincere apologies for not laying out words worthy of such a deplorable tragedy, but I am rarely exposed for more than my I.P. address.
You are one of the only people here who know my true name.
That's because I love you like a Brother. You are a trustworthy soul.
Were you to paraphrase my prayers, I would ask his soul be Kept by Our Lord, Jesus Christ. I would ask that the Family know that our Prayers are with them.
We ask those in the community for prayers, as a Brother was lost.
The Prayer of St. Francis keeps popping into my head on this occasion.
It begins:
-Lord, make me an instrument of Thy peace.
Form the rest in your own words and you'll do well in serving as a voice of reason in a cacophony of vitriol.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:33 AM (16bOT)
-Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 02:19 AM (FMbng)
*HAH!*
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:35 AM (16bOT)
Lord, God of all Things, may your bless the family and friends of Zemir Begic with the Wisdom to Grateful that Such a Man Lived and the Strength to deal one day at a time with the brutal way that he died.
Posted by: Adriane ... at December 02, 2014 02:22 AM (P+IZm)
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570 Oh, Lord, we commend the soul of Zemir Begic into your care as it leaves this mortal plane. Be it known that he has honorably sacrificed his life in the defense of his wife, Arijana Mujkanovic.
May your divine grace salve the harms of violence and charter future for them both.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 02, 2014 02:30 AM (T1005)
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Amen!
*cough*
Nicely said, y'all.
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 02:37 AM (ymKM0)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:43 AM (16bOT)
The more you know ...
Posted by: Pedantic Grammar Bro The Greater at December 02, 2014 02:23 AM (FlRtG)
That's not an ellipsis. It is three periods typed one right after the other. Here is a real ellipsis: …
Posted by: The Ellipsisian Hat at December 02, 2014 02:45 AM (lN8KC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Robert
It's pretty likely Cosby made the real-life inspiration's acquaintance and any number of his ilk through various channels. I imagine you could get anything you wanted if you were a regular at the mansion and friend of Hef.
Posted by: Epobirs at December 02, 2014 02:46 AM (IdCqF)
Here's my question...
Do you "attach" it to the previous phrase, as I have in the aforementioned phrase?
...or is it "acceptable" to place a space before the next "idea", such as ...this?
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:50 AM (16bOT)
-Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 02:19 AM (FMbng)
*HAH!*
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:35 AM (16bOT)
Seriously, it was a huge pain in the ass. The shit was insane. The Egyptian was like learning 3 languages at once. Each glyph could be either a single letter of the alphabet, a biliteral, or a trilateral. They could also be an ideogram, a phonetic compliment, or a determinative. I mean wtf?? Then there are the rules. The god name is always written first, even though it may be pronounced last, which they call honorific transposition,or some shit. Like Tutankhamun, which means "living image of Amun". The amun part is spoken last, but it appears first, so it actually reads amun tut ankh. Then...then, the writing can be read left to right OR right to left depending on which way the figures are looking (birds, animals, people etc). If they are looking to the left, you start reading from the left. So yeah, they can lick my genitives.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 02:50 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2014 02:50 AM (jqUAa)
Posted by: Dan Ellipsis Brown at December 02, 2014 02:52 AM (2gNPB)
Do you "attach" it to the previous phrase, as I have in the aforementioned phrase?
...or is it "acceptable" to place a space before the next "idea", such as ...this?
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:50 AM (16bOT)
According to þe olde Wikipedia:
http://tinyurl.com/lvshung
Posted by: The Ellipsisian Hat at December 02, 2014 02:54 AM (lN8KC)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 02, 2014 02:50 AM (jqUAa)
I can access it just fine.
Posted by: The Political Flashing Siren at December 02, 2014 02:55 AM (lN8KC)
...sexually.
As an addendum, did I really need a "period" after the word "sexually"?
It was not a sentence. It was, however, the completion of the "idea".
Something else that has bothered me; not seriously, though.
Are there more than one spaces between the semicolon and the rest of the idea?
I think I have it correct. I've not seen more than one space between the semicolon and the parsing of the idea.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 02:58 AM (16bOT)
True. A critical thing to know if you do electronic publication editing, though some smart systems like Word default to automatically converting three periods to the preferred character that stays intact in a word wrap.
Posted by: Epobirs at December 02, 2014 02:59 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: Dan Brown, bestselling novelist at December 02, 2014 03:00 AM (2gNPB)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 03:00 AM (FMbng)
So it is like a written form of Pac-man, where you can tell if a ghost will follow you by which way its eyes are pointing.
Posted by: Epobirs at December 02, 2014 03:02 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: wheatie at December 02, 2014 01:34 AM (ymKM0)
"its" as a possessive is not a contraction; just the possessive case of the neuter pronoun, "it".
"it's", meaning "it is" really is an idiom. To what does "it" refer? I can say, "It's cold outside." or I could say "cold outside". No less information in the second form, is there? We are just used to wanting complete sentences, and the "it is", or "it's" provide a subject and verb to mate up with the predicate.
I blame the Romans. Filthy inflectionists.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2014 03:04 AM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Hugh Downs at December 02, 2014 03:06 AM (FlRtG)
-Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 02:50 AM (FMbng)
*HAH!*
?Como se dice amigos estupidos?
I don't have "Hat-Talent", so as to create characters out of nowhere. I don't know how to create the upside-down question-mark that starts the Espanol.
...I've got no tilde!
English is one of the only languages that puts a qualifier before the noun.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:07 AM (16bOT)
Got a big job interview Tuesday through Thursday out of state.
Wish me luck.
Here is "Got the Time" by Joe Jackson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTIPCc1nKYQ
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 02, 2014 03:08 AM (lN8KC)
-Posted by: The Ellipsisian Hat at December 02, 2014 02:54 AM (lN8KC)
I'll just continue what I'm doing, then!
-Thank You!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:08 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:10 AM (16bOT)
3 am, and I'm next door with the neighbor trying to "weld" plastic fenders on an ATV.
I come back to see you morons debating the proper use of the ellipsis.
I think I overuse it, myself.
but - only three. That I know.
And i've always thought it was meant to , well, leaving your sentencing hanging.
Something like -
I was going to hit the sack earlier, but...
Posted by: shredded chi at December 02, 2014 03:11 AM (zeEqS)
...I've got no tilde!
English is one of the only languages that puts a qualifier before the noun.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:07 AM (16bOT)
Type in the numerical code found here:
http://www.edlazorvfx.com/ysu/html/ascii.html
and here:
http://www.yellowpipe.com/yis/tools/ASCII-HTML-Characters/index.php
For example, to write the letter Þ, you just type out:
& # 2 2 2 ;
without the spaces.
You can type it in a text document or pretty much anywhere else that doesn't run PixyWare by typping in Alt+0222 on a Windows keyboard.
Posted by: Þe Political Hat at December 02, 2014 03:12 AM (lN8KC)
equivalent of the American Conservative Party here, i.e. just barely
more than a front for the KKK.
But of course, I learned that from the MSM. So who knows.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2014 11:20 PM (fGApK)
Ahem. Link in nick.
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:13 AM (nL0sw)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 02, 2014 03:13 AM (zeEqS)
*HAH!*
...welding plastic.
By-the-by, I over-hyphenate everything!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:13 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:14 AM (16bOT)
Some idiot hecklers, er hackers are carrying out a threatened attack. Loozard Squad or something. Some may notice periodic outages which should come back in a bit. XBox Live is down for some folks right now too, and yes, Drudge is out for me. If that's the best they can do, it's pretty lame. Oh noes, I can't play Minecraft or read the news. Whatever will I do?
[loads mags]
Posted by: The Jingler at December 02, 2014 03:15 AM (Wuv+a)
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:17 AM (GoyxN)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:18 AM (16bOT)
exclamatiom hold alt key then 0161 on keypad/
Pixy doesnt like them though. Along with my darn Umlauts ßüöä
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:19 AM (GoyxN)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:20 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:20 AM (GoyxN)
There is an inverted "Mexican" question mark on Samsung galaxy keyboard, but Pixy turned it into a dreaded black diamond.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 02, 2014 03:21 AM (zeEqS)
Posted by: puddleglum@work at December 02, 2014 03:21 AM (8SsiG)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:22 AM (nL0sw)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:22 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:23 AM (nL0sw)
Posted by: The Jingler at December 02, 2014 03:24 AM (Wuv+a)
-Posted by: puddleglum@work at December 02, 2014 03:21 AM (8SsiG)
We're here to help!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:25 AM (16bOT)
Neighbor bought a cheap kit at Harbor Freight. We're half drunk and messing with it.
I said " let me go home & grab a cigarette."
His response was "cool. When you get back, you can jump on the fender to see if the weld holds."
Posted by: shredded chi at December 02, 2014 03:25 AM (zeEqS)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:25 AM (16bOT)
That is.
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:28 AM (GoyxN)
-Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:23 AM (nL0sw)
Download "No Script".
Do nothing unless you "want" mu.nu.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:28 AM (16bOT)
When I was young, I idolized a certain musician. Traveled far and paid big money for private lessons.
He was a well respected musician, at the very top of his game. Lived in a nice house in Monterey. Funny guy, always the one to crack everyone else up with a joke.
Then, one day he killed his wife, his two kids and himself.
So my idol was, all of sudden, a mass murderer.
I still like his recorded music, but I will never feel the same about him.
Posted by: navybrat at December 02, 2014 03:29 AM (JgC5a)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:29 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:31 AM (GoyxN)
I still like his recorded music, but I will never feel the same about him."
-Posted by: navybrat at December 02, 2014 03:29 AM (JgC5a)
I have no idea what to say about that.
...and I'm drunk with all-sorts of words available.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:32 AM (16bOT)
-Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:31 AM (GoyxN)
+1
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:34 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:28 AM (16bOT)
Thanks, I'll give it a whirl.
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:34 AM (nL0sw)
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The way I've heard it, Lennon didn't go full on conservative. Rather, he finally started to pay attention to the big chunk of change the government was picking from his pocket, and started having second thoughts. Doesn't mean someone will necessarily go conservative. Rather, it was one of those things that happens to many converts who don't yet realize they're converted. But not everyone who starts to feel that way follows it through all the way to the end.
Posted by: junior at December 02, 2014 03:36 AM (N+HLW)
-Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:34 AM (nL0sw)
The "downside" is that you'll not be able to post on most forums, nor will you be able to see many videos.
The "upside" is that you can go back to being tracked by everyone from Jesus Christ to Beelzebub with a click or three.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:39 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:40 AM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:40 AM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:40 AM (nL0sw)
Posted by: double secret identity at December 02, 2014 03:41 AM (DJgfL)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:41 AM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:41 AM (nL0sw)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:41 AM (16bOT)
Open up a new Notepad, hold down the alt key and just start at number 1
alt 1 alt 2.....
Wo sind die Umlaute Pixy? Hoeren sie mir? Wo sind die Umlaute!!!!!
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:42 AM (GoyxN)
I said " let me go home & grab a cigarette."
His response was "cool. When you get back, you can jump on the fender to see if the weld holds."
Posted by: shredded chi at December 02, 2014 03:25 AM (zeEqS)
I used to love the Harley tweak fests I used to have here. People getting all buzzed up and doing stupid shit to their bikes into the wee hours. Of course they would sober up and the true horror of what they did would be clear in the morning. I was usually the only one actually qualified to touch the shit, but they wanted to learn the hard way, sooo...
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 03:42 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:42 AM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:43 AM (nL0sw)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:43 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:44 AM (GoyxN)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:44 AM (nL0sw)
& shit.
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:43 AM (16bOT)
Its going to be Dresden here once the wife finds out about the blood bath I waged on ebay today. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 03:44 AM (FMbng)
-Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:42 AM (nL0sw)
LMFAO!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:44 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:45 AM (GoyxN)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:45 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 03:45 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:46 AM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 03:46 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 02, 2014 03:46 AM (nL0sw)
Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 02, 2014 03:48 AM (W/xLa)
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:49 AM (GoyxN)
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:50 AM (GoyxN)
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:51 AM (GoyxN)
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:52 AM (GoyxN)
-Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 03:44 AM (FMbng)
I went ahead and did that because I am an incorrigible dick.
Cautious LOL @ Dresden Wife! I hope that you survive the onslaught, Sir!
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:54 AM (16bOT)
Carrying concealed elbows is an infraction of the Cheerleader code.
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 03:54 AM (GoyxN)
Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 02, 2014 03:57 AM (16bOT)
Posted by: GMB - Tyrant 2nd Class at December 02, 2014 04:06 AM (U7H1n)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 03:42 AM
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I pretty damned sure that is proper usage of an ellipsis.
Posted by: shredded chi at December 02, 2014 04:10 AM (wmXrn)
Posted by: shredded chi at December 02, 2014 04:10 AM (wmXrn)
Sheer luck. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2014 04:14 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 02, 2014 04:49 AM (/mTq0)
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 02, 2014 04:53 AM (/mTq0)
(I'm getting a dlink search page instead his site...)
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 02, 2014 04:57 AM (/mTq0)
Ever get the feeling this should be our national theme song under the current administration?
http://youtu.be/cAMLa5ZC-B4
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 02, 2014 04:58 AM (3TaRZ)
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 02, 2014 05:07 AM (/mTq0)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 02, 2014 05:09 AM (3TaRZ)
Of course I've been awake for a couple of hours.
Over an hour trying to get back to sleep then,, aw to hell with it. Get up, visit the head, make coffee and ice the knee.
And now, upstairs to turn it off.
This'll take a couple of minutes. Just call me uncle Joe.
Posted by: teej says go K-State at December 02, 2014 05:10 AM (KeRzR)
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 02, 2014 05:12 AM (/mTq0)
http://youtu.be/i3j9jpBez8g
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 02, 2014 05:12 AM (3TaRZ)
Lord God, we thank for for your grace
through which we pray to you at this dark hour. A life they love has been torn from his family and friends. Expectations the years have once held have vanished. The mystery of death has stricken them as well as those of us who didn't know Zemic but are horrified by this act of violence. O God, you know the lives we lead and the deaths we die-woven so strangely of purpose and of chance, of reason and the irrational, of strength and of frailty, of happiness and of pain. Into your hands we commend the soul of Zemir Begic. No mortal life you have made is without eternal meaning. No earthly fate is beyond your redeeming. We lift Zemir up to your grace and ask you to fulfill your purpose which reaches beyond time and death. Into your hands we also commit our lives. Who finally have we on earth or heaven but you? Help us to know the measure of our days, and how frail we are. Hold us in your keeping, Forgive us our sins and our hearts from fear. And guide and guard us with your peace. Amen
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2014 05:16 AM (FS3xS)
Are there that many poor? Or, that many moochers?
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 02, 2014 05:18 AM (/mTq0)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2014 05:18 AM (FS3xS)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2014 05:22 AM (FS3xS)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 02, 2014 05:22 AM (3TaRZ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2014 05:27 AM (FS3xS)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 02, 2014 05:29 AM (3TaRZ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2014 05:34 AM (FS3xS)
...the stories of people caught with multiple EBT cards tell me otherwise.
Not to mention people dancing for joy at receiving their Obama phones.
It takes strength to separate wheat from the chaff... and another form of strength determine the 'entitled' from the (truly) needy.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 02, 2014 05:34 AM (/mTq0)
EBT should now stand for Explosives Buying Trick after those idiots.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 02, 2014 05:37 AM (3TaRZ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2014 05:40 AM (FS3xS)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2014 05:41 AM (FS3xS)
Whelp... god help them if they're caught... judges around here are notorious for their lack of humor.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 02, 2014 05:48 AM (/mTq0)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 02, 2014 05:48 AM (3TaRZ)
Cincinnati is such a fun place to drive...
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 02, 2014 05:53 AM (/mTq0)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 02, 2014 05:54 AM (3TaRZ)
If I recall correctly, you're in La. ... a place hardly known for its great rolling hills and such...
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 02, 2014 06:09 AM (/mTq0)
The Governor has said... no. Ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 02, 2014 06:15 AM (/mTq0)
He may, however, be a (much, much) longer-running version of Canada's Jian Ghomeshi, who was recently fired by the CBC when they found out he was into BDSM so rough it left women with bruises and broken ribs. He seems to have tried to make a case for "Evil conservative broadcaster picks on dark-skinned guy with alternative sexual tastes" in the court of public opinion (his Facebook page), but it only gained traction in the first few days and backfired horrifically when the truth became apparent. He went from hero to zero very swiftly and is currently facing criminal charges.
Posted by: perturbed at December 02, 2014 07:26 AM (TXq4O)
Posted by: iowaan at December 02, 2014 08:24 AM (hXclJ)
http://feminine-genius.typepad.com/femininegenius/2014/11/the-cosby-fallout.html
Posted by: gsk at December 02, 2014 10:13 AM (zJHcU)
Posted by: Mr. Practical at December 02, 2014 11:35 AM (t/bua)
gnomesayin!
That cat's dates are all like school in summahtime!
Flat OUT
Posted by: Weird Harold at December 02, 2014 12:18 PM (RJN20)
I tend to agree that the acquisitions against Cosby are true....
Go back watch his stand-up stuff from the late '60's / early
'70's. He may be a rapist scumbag, but he's really funny that
shit still stands up after all these years
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I grew up watching Cosby on I Spy with Robert Culp, and listening to his comedy albums. ("Why Is There Air?") I'm upset to hear that Cosby has more than likely been a scumbag all along. The next thing I'll probably find out is that Culp, who passed away a few years ago, was a scumbag too. No thanks; I don't want to know.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 02, 2014 12:38 PM (sscNE)
Spy" series with Robert Culp, a Kennedy look-alike who played in the
infamous "Bob, Ted, Carol, and Alice"; on tv before my parents blessed
us with NO tv.)
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I hadn't thought about it, but yes, Culp did look something like Kennedy in those early-Sixties days. He was in the PT 109 film, but Cliff Robertson played Lt. Kennedy.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 02, 2014 01:05 PM (sscNE)
..."I have this real weak spot for sciency gals with glasses."
-Posted by: Old Blue at December 02, 2014 12:42 AM (vVSOO)
As a Child of the Eighties, I agree. The simple "taking-off of the
glasses" and "letting down of the hair" was an "all-of-a-sudden-HOT"
theme.
Redheads and freckles are also a HUGE weakness of this Super-Goof.
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I have this film clip in my head of Bailey, Jan Smithers, doing exactly that. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 02, 2014 01:20 PM (sscNE)
Posted by: Rufus T Firefly at December 02, 2014 02:27 PM (QvtD6)
Yes.
Back to Cosby. I genuinely admired him for all the reasons everybody has, plus his not buying into the PC racebaiting and remaining a seemingly decent guy despite Fame. Friends who have worked him on charity projects describe a guy who genuinely puts in a lot of time and his own money for Good Causes.
Posted by: Rufus T Firefly at December 02, 2014 02:30 PM (QvtD6)
WE both agree there is no evidence and accusations can be baseless.
But she believes the accusations based on sheer number of women and similarity of their general stories, plus time she spent as a screenwriter in Hollywood.
I don't necessarily believe in Cosbys innocence. I'm sure he took full advantage of celebrity access to free roaming nookie.
But some of these womens stories are clearly just groupie anecdotes, including the Boca Raton nurse who claims he raped her, after which she moved into his Vegas hotel suite for 'a couple of months, I don't remember exactly' and stayed in touch, flying to meet him at concerts around the country for years afterward.
And how does anybody defend themselves from a no-evidence, no-witnesses accusation from freaking 1976?
Now Bill Clinton. THERE'S a freaking sociopathic staff-enabled serial rapist. In spades.
Posted by: Rufus T Firefly at December 02, 2014 02:36 PM (QvtD6)
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