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Let Them Eat Less: Designer/Aristocrat Declares That If Poor People Can't Afford Pricey Organic Food, They Should Just Eat Less
They're almost openly campaigning for a second look at the guillotine.
Dame Vivienne Westwood, the fashion designer, has declared that people who can’t afford to buy organic food should "eat less" and stop getting fat.
The millionaire designer made the comments as she delivered a petition to Downing Street protesting about genetically modified food. When a BBC Radio 5 Live interviewer suggested that "not everybody can afford to eat organic food", Dame Vivienne replied: "Eat less!" Told that many people in Britain are visiting food banks because they don’t have enough to put on their tables, so "to eat less isn’t an option", Dame Vivienne was dismissive. "They don’t have any choice – this is the point, isn’t it," she said. "You’ve got all these processed foods, which is the main reason people are getting fat. They’re not actually good for you - they don't give you strength, they give you weight. "I eat vegetables and fruit. I don’t eat meat. I believe meat is bad for me so I don’t eat it. It’s also bad for the animals. "If there was a movement to produce more organic food and less of the horrible food, then organic food would obviously be a good value price, wouldn’t it?"
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: EC at November 24, 2014 06:22 PM (doBIb)
Anglican--something like that.
If you could call a fashion about 'White Power" she would be it.
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 24, 2014 06:22 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: JDub (was BunkerintheBurbs) at November 24, 2014 06:23 PM (X3xYu)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 24, 2014 06:23 PM (n0a1r)
Posted by: JEM at November 24, 2014 06:24 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 24, 2014 06:24 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: alexthechick - Do not doubt my commitment to Jazz Hands at November 24, 2014 06:24 PM (IrByp)
"Let's talk about your rise up the fashion world....how many dicks did you have to suck....50? 100?"
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at November 24, 2014 06:25 PM (OWjjx)
Posted by: Ook? at November 24, 2014 06:25 PM (E/isQ)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 24, 2014 06:25 PM (vmltA)
Posted by: dogfish at November 24, 2014 06:25 PM (1vYi0)
Not sure how you fix this problem, but it is a problem.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 06:25 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at November 24, 2014 06:26 PM (f0pWu)
"Let's talk about your rise up the fashion world....how many dicks did you have to suck....50? 100?"
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at November 24, 2014 06:25 PM (OWjjx)
*sigh*
I remember my first dick too!
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 24, 2014 06:26 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 24, 2014 06:26 PM (8ZskC)
Dame Vivienne Westwood...
Tapped 'dat.
[Dub-dub-dub, ba-ba-ba-ba, ba-ba-ba-ba]
Posted by: Malcolm McLaren
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 24, 2014 06:26 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Ook? at November 24, 2014 06:25 PM (E/isQ)
So, in another 7 minutes then?
Posted by: EC at November 24, 2014 06:26 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at November 24, 2014 06:27 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: MayBee at November 24, 2014 06:27 PM (owMUc)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 24, 2014 06:27 PM (f7eH8)
Posted by: Joe Biden at November 24, 2014 06:27 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: alexthechick - Do not doubt my commitment to Jazz Hands at November 24, 2014 06:24 PM (IrByp)
Ostrich? Not bad if done with a Rotisserie...
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at November 24, 2014 06:27 PM (f0pWu)
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at November 24, 2014 06:28 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 24, 2014 06:28 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 24, 2014 06:29 PM (GKxF1)
Yea, Jay, those folks supporting Wilson have looted a lot of Quick Trips....asshat.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at November 24, 2014 06:29 PM (OWjjx)
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 24, 2014 06:29 PM (RJMhd)
She's not some svelte little Lady herself...
She's packed on a few pounds too...
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at November 24, 2014 06:29 PM (f0pWu)
Dear Mr Obama, I assume Soros can cover your golf outings.
Posted by: JEM at November 24, 2014 06:30 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Bumpersticker Notary Sojac at November 24, 2014 06:30 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at November 24, 2014 06:30 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 24, 2014 06:30 PM (8ZskC)
misunderstood."
I don't know how "eat less!" might accidentally be misunderstood. Even a poor, dumb country boy like me can understand two words amounting to to just seven simple letters.
Another two-word phrase with seven letters comes to mind in response, though: F*** You.
Posted by: Keith Arnold at November 24, 2014 06:30 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Al Sharpton at November 24, 2014 06:30 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 24, 2014 06:30 PM (RJMhd)
Not sure how you fix this problem, but it is a problem.
I know how: get rid of all the leftarded politicians and free the people and the economy.
There's a direct correlation between freedom and prosperity.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at November 24, 2014 06:30 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Shep Smith at November 24, 2014 06:31 PM (NtzGn)
Posted by: JEM at November 24, 2014 06:31 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Talibill at November 24, 2014 06:31 PM (in9qW)
Just look for the Golden Arches.
Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 24, 2014 06:31 PM (GKxF1)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 06:25 PM (0LHZx)
Shitty food is cheap compared to what?
Not compared to buying fresh food and cooking it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 06:31 PM (Zu3d9)
First smart thing Nixon has done....find an even bigger idiot to follow you.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at November 24, 2014 06:31 PM (OWjjx)
And up comes that second helping of giblet stuffing:
I rarely shower, says Westwood. Designer turned green activist reveals she doesn't wash everyday. The 72-year-old Dame Vivienne said that she simply "washes her bits" each morning before dashing out of the house. She also shares the same bath water as husband
She made the confession in a video for PETA
DailyMail
http://tinyurl.com/kmn62l8
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 24, 2014 06:31 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: FCF at November 24, 2014 06:32 PM (kejii)
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at November 24, 2014 06:32 PM (Bn6aD)
Posted by: EC at November 24, 2014 06:32 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Jonathan Swift at November 24, 2014 06:32 PM (BPMYx)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 06:32 PM (N2tYd)
Posted by: Dianna at November 24, 2014 06:32 PM (fKYRn)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 24, 2014 06:32 PM (1CroS)
What's Dame Westwood's view on cake?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 24, 2014 06:32 PM (TIIx5)
She is definitely a good candidate for a throat punch.
Posted by: Kreplach at November 24, 2014 06:32 PM (nVFrY)
Posted by: Fewenuff at November 24, 2014 06:32 PM (zPNX5)
Posted by: Concerned College Student at November 24, 2014 06:33 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Don Lemon at November 24, 2014 06:33 PM (H/9vm)
More for me...
Posted by: Keith Arnold at November 24, 2014 06:33 PM (iIzG7)
We'd like to return all the gifts
Posted by: kbdabear at November 24, 2014 06:33 PM (GrXXa)
Of course, when you go about torching your urban areas, don't act so surprised when businesses decide they don't want to put up with your inner-city bullshit anymore.
And those food deserts should be experiencing another growth phase starting any minute now.....
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 24, 2014 06:33 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at November 24, 2014 06:33 PM (Bn6aD)
Friend of mine's grandson has been diagnosed (I guess) with widespread allergies. She rattled off the list and it was damned near everything - lactose, gluten, even fructose. (I've never heard that one before.)
So the solution they're going with is for them to buy all their foods from some "natural foods" market. But as she's describing the upcoming menu for their family T-day it's including all sorts of things that seem to be on the list (fruits, butter, pies). As the convo continues, she drifts into some nonsense about GMOs and antibiotics and growth hormones. Absolutely batty, but I was not in the mood to talk sense to her today (I've done so in the past).
More food for me!
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 06:33 PM (9BRsg)
there's nothing more I hate than people worrying about what Other People eat..or do
mind your own fucking business
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at November 24, 2014 06:33 PM (1K6n1)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at November 24, 2014 06:33 PM (OWjjx)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 06:33 PM (N2tYd)
With almost no planning a good balanced diet is affordable for everyone here.
I remember they interviewed an african and one of the things he said was: I want to live in a country where poor people are fat.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 24, 2014 06:34 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: flounder at November 24, 2014 06:34 PM (sDapq)
Posted by: Joke Biden at November 24, 2014 06:34 PM (H/9vm)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 24, 2014 06:34 PM (NtzGn)
Posted by: Marie Antoinette at November 24, 2014 06:34 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: UGAdawg at November 24, 2014 06:35 PM (c+vBe)
Posted by: Josef Stalin at November 24, 2014 06:35 PM (Nfdkj)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at November 24, 2014 06:35 PM (97I0d)
Not compared to buying fresh food and cooking it.
I don't understand this trope at all. A frozen pizza is $3. A bag of salad--no dressing or meat, just the leaves--is $2.89.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:35 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 24, 2014 06:35 PM (6/J77)
*this post brought to you by Frosted Shredded Wheat, slightly less terrible than regular Shredded Wheat
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer at November 24, 2014 06:35 PM (1K6n1)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at November 24, 2014 06:35 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: Sven10077 at November 24, 2014 06:35 PM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at November 24, 2014 06:35 PM (OWjjx)
Posted by: huerfano at November 24, 2014 06:36 PM (bAGA/)
If you want to see another example of what happens when you let Labour create peers for no damn good reason, go google Baronesses Vermin and Worthless...I mean, Verma and Worthington.
Posted by: JEM at November 24, 2014 06:36 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at November 24, 2014 06:36 PM (Bn6aD)
--
It's the convenience that's the determining factor, not the price.
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 06:36 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Talibill at November 24, 2014 06:36 PM (in9qW)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 06:36 PM (N2tYd)
Posted by: Marion Barry at November 24, 2014 06:36 PM (1I8EA)
Posted by: Francis Slay at November 24, 2014 06:36 PM (Nfdkj)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 24, 2014 06:37 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 24, 2014 06:37 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Dame "Call me Viv" Westwood at November 24, 2014 06:37 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 24, 2014 06:37 PM (8ZskC)
So most of you will have to go.
Don't blame me, blame Science.
Posted by: Eco-nazi Ruling Class at November 24, 2014 06:37 PM (zwdxl)
Time to drop a fuel/air bomb downtown, and not give advance warning to the "protestors."
Posted by: Keith Arnold at November 24, 2014 06:37 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 24, 2014 06:37 PM (GrXXa)
So if the officer is indicted they expect as big of a riot? We are so truly fucked...
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at November 24, 2014 06:37 PM (Bn6aD)
It's also the price. A box of mac-n-cheese with the orange powder is $1. You can't get enough real cheese for any homemade mac-n-cheese recipe for $1.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:37 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: JSchuler at November 24, 2014 06:37 PM (ashPd)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at November 24, 2014 06:37 PM (OWjjx)
At some level. And yet, I'm not sure I could make a cheeseburger in my house for 89 cents.
Heck with the price of ground beef the meat alone costs almost $0.40 (McD's uses a 1/10 pound patty.)
The real issue from what gather is that things like fruits and veggies cost more than say a pack of hotdogs. Meaning poor people end up eating the pack of hotdogs.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at November 24, 2014 06:38 PM (2j0bn)
Posted by: Blame Whom at November 24, 2014 06:38 PM (7wyDO)
There's been a movement for that for *decades*. Guess the average person just isn't that impressed with the concept. Nice of her to admit that it's about taking away the option to do anything but what our self-proclaimed "betters" decide.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 24, 2014 06:38 PM (GDulk)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 06:38 PM (N2tYd)
Not sure how you fix this problem, but it is a problem.
Cut off their EBT cards. Then they'll be forced to eat spaghetti's instead of steak and lobster.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2014 06:38 PM (5ETeA)
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Folded. Cheap. Shirt.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 24, 2014 06:38 PM (l1zOH)
--
Don't forget the middle class people. And those horrid, soulless zombies in suburbia. Ugh. So gross.
We really don't need any of those people. Just ick.
Posted by: Eco-nazi Ruling Class at November 24, 2014 06:38 PM (zwdxl)
But eating me is good for me? Shut up, Sugartits. You were bred an omnivore; you'll always be an omnivore.
Posted by: Vegetables at November 24, 2014 06:39 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at November 24, 2014 06:39 PM (KuU4f)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 24, 2014 06:39 PM (+lsX1)
slightly less terrible than regular Shredded Wheat
Posted by: Please Don't Squeeze The Soothsayer
I like shredded wheat
The Kashi Vanilla Autumn Wheat version is awesome.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 24, 2014 06:39 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 24, 2014 06:39 PM (l1zOH)
Shitty food is cheap compared to what?
Not compared to buying fresh food and cooking it.
I don't understand this trope at all. A frozen pizza is $3. A bag of salad--no dressing or meat, just the leaves--is $2.89.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:35 PM (ZKzrr)
A head of lettuce, a tomato and a couple of carrots will cost about $2-3, and will make enough salad to fill 3 or 4 of those salad bags.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 24, 2014 06:39 PM (TIIx5)
Pocket neighborhood for those that don't know is typically an island of nice in a sea of not nice. Not gentrification just stubborn or culturally strong folks that did not flee the rising waters.
Dog whistles all over the place.
Posted by: Fewenuff at November 24, 2014 06:39 PM (zPNX5)
cost more than say a pack of hotdogs. Meaning poor people end up eating
the pack of hotdogs.
Also vegetables taste like crap unless you dump a truckload of cheese/butter/salt on them, and hot dogs are engineered to taste good.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:39 PM (ZKzrr)
Same thing will happen here.
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 24, 2014 06:39 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 24, 2014 06:38 PM (GDulk)
I get a movement everytime I eat anything "organically" grown.
Posted by: Talibill at November 24, 2014 06:40 PM (in9qW)
Posted by: Fewenuff at November 24, 2014 06:40 PM (zPNX5)
Organic, the food most likely to include a dose of e-coli.
Posted by: Meremortal at November 24, 2014 06:40 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: The future at November 24, 2014 06:40 PM (uSAVP)
The comparisons on Twitter between the horrible MoochMeals(tm) which serf children in the public schools are forced to eat, and the gourmet chef-prepared organic delicacies served to Mooch's daughters at their exclusive private school.
#ThanksMichelleObama started out as an orchestrated effort by educrats to praise MoochMeals(tm) and their architect.
Frustrated hungry kids forced to eat "slop" and "vomit" have started hashjacking that tag. The Thanksgiving mystery glop is grimly amusing.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 24, 2014 06:40 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at November 24, 2014 06:40 PM (M6Vhk)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 24, 2014 06:41 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:37 PM (ZKzrr)
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Don't buy the box of shit or the cheese. Buy a bag of cheap pasta, can of tomato sauce, and a can of red beans. Mission accomplished.
Cheese is an extremely expensive way to obtain protein.
Posted by: RioBravo at November 24, 2014 06:41 PM (z27Ny)
Posted by: Sven10077 at November 24, 2014 06:41 PM (/4AZU)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 24, 2014 06:41 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at November 24, 2014 06:41 PM (NeFrd)
Westwood, you ignorant slut, organic food in itself is produced much less efficiently than "horrible" food. You'd probably need at least double the amount of land currently used to produce "horrible" food to get enough organic food to even approach feeding a plurality of the population.
Let's see, what problem would you rather have, obesity or starvation?
Posted by: Thrawn at November 24, 2014 06:41 PM (Oo0Xc)
Posted by: Candy Crowley at November 24, 2014 06:41 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Fewenuff at November 24, 2014 06:42 PM (zPNX5)
Not sure how you fix this problem, but it is a problem.
I know how: get rid of all the leftarded politicians and free the people and the economy.
There's a direct correlation between freedom and prosperity.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at November 24, 2014 06:30 PM (0HooB)
___________
Yes, because pre-leftards there were never any poor people in the world.
Come on man. There are poor people. There will always be poor people. And like it or not, today, poor people eat cheap food which is basically garbage.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 06:42 PM (0LHZx)
Translation; Dame Vivienne was told by fellow elitists that she's supposed to pretend to love the poor, then demand free Organic foods for everyone
Posted by: kbdabear at November 24, 2014 06:42 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 06:42 PM (N2tYd)
Processing fees do drive up those numbers. I'm not really set up to personally turn an elk into steaks and burgers.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 24, 2014 06:42 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 24, 2014 06:42 PM (6/J77)
Posted by: Mindy at November 24, 2014 06:43 PM (PLzyn)
Oh get out of town, beeyotch.
Posted by: Wiley Coyote VII at November 24, 2014 06:43 PM (1Y+hH)
Nixon looked like he swallowed a bag of dicks.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at November 24, 2014 06:43 PM (OWjjx)
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 06:33 PM (9BRsg)
You know Glenn Beck's grandmother? And she's still alive?
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at November 24, 2014 06:43 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at November 24, 2014 06:43 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: Francis Slay at November 24, 2014 06:43 PM (Nfdkj)
I also like the occasional tenderloin at 13 bucks a pound. I like boneless chicken at 2 bucks a pound. Flounder and salmon at 4.50 bucks a pound.
Good food is not expensive compared to what the FSA expects.
Posted by: Stinky Sock at November 24, 2014 06:43 PM (zxQ4h)
$2-3, and will make enough salad to fill 3 or 4 of those salad bags.
Not around here. I just went shopping yesterday. $1.50 for worthless iceberg lettuce (and you're better off just drinking tap water, it has more nutrients), $2 lb or more for tomatoes depending on variety, 2-lb bag of carrots (which are poison) was $2.
And no, a head of lettuce does not fill 3-4 of those bags. It'll make three cups, which is about what's in the bag.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:44 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Keith Arnold at November 24, 2014 06:44 PM (iIzG7)
Leftist elitists really are intolerant of overweight people. F'ing Bloomberg thought limiting soda size was the most important factor, idiot.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 24, 2014 06:44 PM (NtzGn)
Posted by: Dianna at November 24, 2014 06:44 PM (fKYRn)
Posted by: torquewrench at November 24, 2014 06:42 PM (noWW6)
The grinding attachment for the kitchen aid works pretty good if you have one
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 24, 2014 06:44 PM (6/J77)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:35 PM (ZKzrr)
Don't buy processed lettuce. Buy a head of lettuce.
Don't buy processed carrots. Buy a bunch of carrots.
Don't buy a bag of cookies. Buy the ingredients and bake them yourself.
Don't buy cooked foods from the supermarket. Buy the raw equivalents and cook them yourself.
And on and on and on......
But apparently it is racist to tell poor people that one of the reasons they don't have a lot of money is that they spend what they have unwisely.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 06:44 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 06:44 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Blame Whom at November 24, 2014 06:38 PM (7wyDO)
*****
Yeah, but getting that adult sized squealer mounted on the deli slicer is a royal pain in the ass.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (NeFrd)
...you are aware that that's not mac-n-cheese, right?
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Joe Biden at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Baldy at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (+35FH)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at November 24, 2014 06:38 PM (2j0bn)
____________
Yep.
Plus the pack of hot dogs is also a lot easier.
Along with the costs of eating well, there is a time cost. It takes some time to cook a healthy meal. But it only takes 5 minutes to order the $5 Domino's special or buy $5 of crap at the drive through.
What is never discussed in these debates is the fact that ***MOST*** poor people are poor for a reason. Namely, they're not too bright. If they were, they wouldn't be poor. And all the Michelle Obama initiatives won't change that.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: Mindy at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (PLzyn)
Posted by: --- at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (MMC8r)
The temptation to spray a little pesticide to boost yields has to be huge.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (zwdxl)
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 06:36 PM (9BRsg)
This! I don't know if it's the same here, but in Britain (at least in the cities) the poorer people don't know how to cook *anything*. I'm not talking about the jokes about terrible Brit food. I mean they can't even cook that. All they know is take-out and restaurant food (which is, of course, both more expensive and less healthy).
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 24, 2014 06:46 PM (GDulk)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 24, 2014 06:46 PM (WNERA)
one of the reasons they don't have a lot of money is that they spend
what they have unwisely.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 06:44 PM (Zu3d9)
We need a term to describe people who make consistently bad decisions, and evince a notable lack of foresight or impulse control.
Oh, wait, we've already got a term: "stupid."
Never mind.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 06:46 PM (oKE6c)
have started offering shopping and cooking classes. Really basic stuff,
like we learned in home economics in junior high."
Well, if the public schools went back to teaching things like home ec, extremely important pedagogical instruction in things like fisting would have to be taken out of the curriculum. A nonstarter, I'm sure we can all agree.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 24, 2014 06:46 PM (noWW6)
Meat is murder!
Tasty, tasty murder.
[Wanna trade?]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 06:47 PM (Zu3d9)
And like it or not, today, poor people eat cheap food which is basically
garbage.
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But you and HR are discounting that the "garbage food" these folks are eating *are* convenience foods.
Watch the Travel Channel and see what the folks southeast Asia are eating or Africa or wherever.
A bag of beans or rice or lentils or pretty much anything in that aisle is cheap and very nutritious. I do think many fresh veggies tend to be pricey (not onions or potatoes or rutabagas, but more perishable types), but there's nothing wrong with canned tomatoes for cooking.
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 06:47 PM (9BRsg)
I've seen that too; the "organic" label, at least here in the US, can be very misleading.
Posted by: Thrawn at November 24, 2014 06:47 PM (Oo0Xc)
Well, it *is* November. Not surprising that a lot of greens are more expensive.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 24, 2014 06:47 PM (GDulk)
Posted by: mugiwara at November 24, 2014 06:47 PM (3a584)
cities) the poorer people don't know how to cook *anything*. I'm not
talking about the jokes about terrible Brit food."
There's a reason why the best restaurants in London are all Indian and Chinese.
Posted by: Keith Arnold at November 24, 2014 06:47 PM (iIzG7)
Nixon looked like he swallowed a bag of dicks.
It's on! It's on?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2014 06:47 PM (5ETeA)
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 24, 2014 06:47 PM (6/J77)
The 'bunches' of carrots (with the tops?) cost more per pound than the bags of carrots.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:47 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Baldy at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (+35FH)
Right? I went there once just to see what the natives were having for dinner and left and then headed to the Burger King right next door. Doubt I'll ever have anything I require from there.
Posted by: Talibill at November 24, 2014 06:47 PM (in9qW)
A rotisserie chicken often costs less than the raw one you can get from the meat department in the same store.
Of course, it tastes worse than turning the raw into chicken vesuvio, but them's the breaks.
Posted by: JSchuler at November 24, 2014 06:47 PM (ashPd)
Posted by: Bracky Oblahblah at November 24, 2014 06:47 PM (NtzGn)
that ***MOST*** poor people are poor for a reason. Namely, they're not
too bright. If they were, they wouldn't be poor. And all the Michelle
Obama initiatives won't change that.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (0LHZx)
Hey, don't lay this on us. We just described the mechanism. We're not responsible for what it codes.
Posted by: Watson and Crick at November 24, 2014 06:48 PM (oKE6c)
My vote for thread winnah!
It's why they bitch about SNAP or whatever they're calling it these days not being enough - they buy a bunch of name brand, pre-cooked bullshit and then wonder why they run short of bennies. Or they spend it on fast food or obscenely expensive convenience store fare.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 24, 2014 06:48 PM (xSCb6)
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False! Erroneous!
Organic food is real food. It is grown oragnically and has *real* nutrition.
Factory food is just chemicals! Chemicals plus pesticides. It has not nutrition at all. Zero!!! Fact!
Junk food is nothing more than a simulacrum of food. It's made entirely of toxins, poisons, and chemicals.
These are facts!! Science facts!!
Posted by: Eco-nazi Ruling Class at November 24, 2014 06:48 PM (zwdxl)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 24, 2014 06:38 PM (GDulk)
You have to admit, it is a lot more efficient to have your betters making all the tough calls for you instead of wallowing in indecision all by yourself.
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 24, 2014 06:48 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at November 24, 2014 06:28 PM (Bn6aD)
Bingo. I teach the 'pobre' and pizza, fast food is the staple. free school breakfast and lunch but they bring Cheetos and other crap to have with it. Give me a break.
Posted by: Viv Savage at November 24, 2014 06:48 PM (HRo7B)
There you go EBT cards have too much money on them.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 24, 2014 06:48 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at November 24, 2014 06:48 PM (3QAtO)
Once upon a time not long ago there was 1 organic fruit option at the grocery store. Today you have 30 options. As always more competition leads to better products and lower prices.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 06:48 PM (0LHZx)
Did Slay say he would fire a cannon or something so the 'protestors' would know when to get started?
Posted by: Wiley Coyote VII at November 24, 2014 06:48 PM (1Y+hH)
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The dried powdered "cheese" isn't isn't cheese, either.
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 06:49 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 06:49 PM (N2tYd)
Yeah, but in too many cases, if people could plan ahead, they wouldn't be poor.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 24, 2014 06:50 PM (J0IP0)
Posted by: Fewenuff at November 24, 2014 06:50 PM (zPNX5)
http://tinyurl.com/kz96y4c
Haven't been in apposition to butcher anything myself, but I bought this a couple weeks back sort of on spec and it is very good.
Posted by: Grey Fox at November 24, 2014 06:50 PM (NWhp3)
A lot of people who aren't poor do the same thing.
Posted by: Meremortal at November 24, 2014 06:50 PM (1Y+hH)
I haven't eaten a single chemical in five years.
You don't need chemicals, people -- just *real* food. Natural food. Food food.
Posted by: Eco-nazi Ruling Class at November 24, 2014 06:50 PM (zwdxl)
End of lesson.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at November 24, 2014 06:50 PM (uSAVP)
A full chicken is about $7.00 here. That's enough for 3 meals worth of chicken if you shred it. On the other hand, a meal's worth of chicken breasts can be as high as $10.00.
I've already mentioned pork butt as being the loaves and fishes of the meat world, but really any roast is going to give you more meat per $ than other cuts.
Then of course there's the not quite ideal, but still better than fast food option of going with canned veggies. They can be half the price of frozen. Throw in a can of mixed veggies with some cream cheese, seasoning, and that shredded chicken and top it with a homemade pie-crust, and you've got a dinner for as many as you need to feed for about $5.00, if that.
I'm not being dismissive at all, although I think my tone may sound it. I know it can be freaking hard to make a food menu. It takes, more than anything, planning. That's the single biggest obstacle to healthy and frugal eating. If I go to the store with a list for the week with every single item down to the daily snacks, I walk out spending at least $50 less than if I just go in with a rough idea of what I want to cook.
That's the answer to Mr Moo Moo's question of "what can we do?" We teach the poor to plan and to cook. Find things that can be done as quickly as possible or can be cooked in advance and used throughout the week since time is often in short supply among those who are in poverty and working several jobs. It is a commitment to cook for your family, but the rewards are definitely worth it, imo.
Posted by: Lauren Hulk at November 24, 2014 06:50 PM (BPMYx)
Posted by: JEM at November 24, 2014 06:50 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Meremortal at November 24, 2014 06:50 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 24, 2014 06:51 PM (NtzGn)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:47 PM (ZKzrr)
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Let the poor learn to make a pesto-like slop from the carrot tops. Shit just like it is served in the finest restaurants.
Posted by: RioBravo at November 24, 2014 06:51 PM (z27Ny)
At the gym, waiting for a bench...
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at November 24, 2014 06:51 PM (1K6n1)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at November 24, 2014 06:51 PM (97I0d)
Posted by: Viv Savage at November 24, 2014 06:51 PM (HRo7B)
The entire organic food industry is a testament to human stupidity and poor science education.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 24, 2014 06:51 PM (zwdxl)
Posted by: Lauren Hulk at November 24, 2014 06:51 PM (BPMYx)
Exactly.
Rice and beans...complete protein!
Get some roughage and a few other things into your diet and you can survive quite nicely on a fraction of what "poor" people in America spend on food.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 06:51 PM (Zu3d9)
Anyone want to step up and let me give it a try?
Posted by: Fewenuff at November 24, 2014 06:52 PM (zPNX5)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 24, 2014 06:52 PM (J0IP0)
Tasty, tasty murder.
[Wanna trade?]
I'll trade for two murders, but that's as low as I can go.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 24, 2014 06:52 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Grey Fox at November 24, 2014 06:50 PM (NWhp3)
_______________________
Video on youtube to serve man.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 24, 2014 06:52 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 06:52 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 24, 2014 06:52 PM (zwdxl)
There used to be something to handle that function called "parents." Whatever happened to those, anyway?
Posted by: Keith Arnold at November 24, 2014 06:52 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: DaveA at November 24, 2014 06:52 PM (DL2i+)
Yeah like HR said, this logic only goes for far.
Sure, a head of lettuce makes more than the bag of salad mix, but when you look at it, my wife and I don't go through the minimum ingredients needed to make a salad before they go bad.
Factoring that in, (which we've done) the salad mix turns out to be a better deal. And I can' explain why a bunch of carrots costs $1.10/lb (and I'll lose some weight to cleaning and cutting) but a 12oz bag of baby carrots costs $1 (but you lose nothing)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at November 24, 2014 06:52 PM (2j0bn)
Posted by: Meremortal at November 24, 2014 06:53 PM (1Y+hH)
I wasn't. I was pointing out that the convenience foods are cheaper and tastier than the fresh foods that a woman who has to work more than 40 hours a week doesn't have the time to shop, chop, and prepare.
(I'm not sure how "dried beans and canned tomato sauce" are "fresh foods", either.)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:53 PM (ZKzrr)
The entire organic food industry is a testament to human stupidity and poor science education.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 24, 2014 06:51 PM (zwdxl)
This.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 06:53 PM (oKE6c)
I'm talking about the "baby carrots" they sell, compared to a bag of unpeeled carrots.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 06:53 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 24, 2014 06:53 PM (zwdxl)
Organic food is real food. It is grown oragnically and has *real* nutrition.
Factory food is just chemicals! Chemicals plus pesticides. It has not nutrition at all. Zero!!! Fact!
Junk food is nothing more than a simulacrum of food. It's made entirely of toxins, poisons, and chemicals.
These are facts!! Science facts!!
My boss, who is a die-hard libertarian-type and a big fan of Glenn Beck, actually talks like this. He also eats it anyway...
Posted by: Grey Fox at November 24, 2014 06:53 PM (NWhp3)
100 years ago we worried about poor people starving to death,now we worry about them getting fat
Posted by: kj at November 24, 2014 06:53 PM (lKyWE)
sold their ebt card for a forty ounce and a blunt.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 24, 2014 06:53 PM (5ETeA)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 24, 2014 06:52 PM (zwdxl)
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It's not the health benefits. it's like shopping in an Apple store.
Posted by: RioBravo at November 24, 2014 06:53 PM (z27Ny)
Posted by: Iosif Stalin at November 24, 2014 06:53 PM (LoIJo)
Mamaw raised a family in the depression. I spent my after-school hours with her taking mental notes.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at November 24, 2014 06:53 PM (uSAVP)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at November 24, 2014 06:53 PM (3QAtO)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 24, 2014 06:54 PM (zwdxl)
Reminds of a Bill Buckley (I think) column where he said the most efficient way to help the poor with their diets was to have government warehouses that would distribute basic raw foods in bulk, rice, beans, flour, cornmeal, milk, peanut butter, etc. Making it edible was up to the individual.
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 24, 2014 06:54 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at November 24, 2014 06:54 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Dang at November 24, 2014 06:54 PM (MNq6o)
The can of Chunk Soup is $2, unless you can find it on sale for $1.50.
It's also not a "fresh food."
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:54 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 24, 2014 06:55 PM (41ijT)
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 24, 2014 06:55 PM (6/J77)
The entire organic food industry is a testament to human stupidity and poor science education.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 24, 2014 06:51 PM (zwdxl)
________
I know right. Pesticides are so totally yummy and delicious. You'd be a fool not to eat food coated with it.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 06:55 PM (0LHZx)
And that is a straw-man.
You have the discretionary income to make that decision without jeopardizing other things.
It's the definition of poor that they don't!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 06:55 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 06:48 PM (0LHZx)
Are you sure they don't just take all the shitty insect-ridden and moldy produce and throw it into the "organic" bin and double the cost?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 06:55 PM (oKE6c)
Oh and if you're one of the dipshits actually paying extra for "free range" save time and set your extra money on fire. It's total bs. I can take you to a free range farm today and the guys that work there will laugh in your face.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 24, 2014 06:55 PM (gA96L)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 24, 2014 06:55 PM (2ruKl)
Posted by: Margaret Sanger at November 24, 2014 06:56 PM (ABcz/)
Posted by: Dang at November 24, 2014 06:56 PM (MNq6o)
And as someone said, it isn't just poor people. My sister rarely cooks for her family. I offered to teach her 13 year old, but no takers.
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 06:56 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (5buP
Just realized that my comment in an earlier thread might have appeared to be directed at you. If it did, it wasn't.
Posted by: --- at November 24, 2014 06:56 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 24, 2014 06:56 PM (+lsX1)
some weight to cleaning and cutting) but a 12oz bag of baby carrots
costs $1 (but you lose nothing)
That I can explain. "baby carrots" in a bag are just peeled-down regular carrots that can't be sold as whole carrots because they were the wrong shape/had weird cracks.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:57 PM (ZKzrr)
extremely important pedagogical instruction in things like fisting would
have to be taken out of the curriculum. A nonstarter, I'm sure we can
all agree.
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I still remember my '77 freshman home ec class. Creamed onions and homemade wraparound skirt. That's what I took away from it.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 24, 2014 06:57 PM (tsGZY)
There's a fellow on the line named Norman Borlaug, asking the same question. And he actually EARNED his Nobel prize.
Posted by: Keith Arnold at November 24, 2014 06:58 PM (iIzG7)
I suspect there is a lot of mislabeling of packages, but I'm just a cynic.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 24, 2014 06:58 PM (WNERA)
But if you're cold, you can buy some organic phlogiston from me. At a premium price, of course.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 06:58 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: The Gardener at November 24, 2014 06:58 PM (z27Ny)
Posted by: Kenway at November 24, 2014 06:58 PM (QB1cV)
Posted by: Dang at November 24, 2014 06:58 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: Grey Fox at November 24, 2014 06:58 PM (NWhp3)
not being enough - they buy a bunch of name brand, pre-cooked bullshit
and then wonder why they run short of bennies. Or they spend it on fast
food or obscenely expensive convenience store fare."
The pizza parlor down the street has a big sign advertising that they accept EBT.
Some of the patrons on benefits are so wasted when they stumble in that they can't even coherently complete a counter order.
"I wanta... ummmm.... dayum! Cant member. Oneadose whatchamacallits. The thing I had last time, rite? Oneadose. With some fries." [pause] Dafuq? No fries? Whodafuq says I can't have my fries?" [pause] "You dontt MAKE fries here? Whats with dat shit?"
By the time they're sorted on the fact that there aren't fries, they've forgotten what kind of a pizza they wanted. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 24, 2014 06:59 PM (noWW6)
Not compared to buying fresh food and cooking it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 06:31 PM (Zu3d9)
I've mentioned this multiple times on this site, but the above is incorrect, at least where I live in sunny Central FL.
I am the grocery shopper in my household and I'm not buying anything fancy, nor am I going to Whole Foods to get my groceries. Yet, every single week I struggle to keep my grocery bill under $200 feeding a family of four (two adults, two children under ten). I buy fresh fruit, vegetables, meats, eggs, and dairy because I want my family to be healthy. The only thing I go down the aisles for are cooking oil (coconut oil once every few months, as I usually use rendered bacon fat), toiletries, and paper products. We buy no cookies, no candy, no chips, no sodas, and I genuinely make everything from scratch. I have tried subbing out frozen produce and meats and it only cuts off maybe $30 a week.
When we were flat broke several years back, I fed all four of us on a budget of $60-70 a week. What did we eat? Box mixes, rice, and canned goods. I put on a lot of weight during that period and so did my husband.
Maybe where you are prices on fresh food are low, but not in my neighborhood and I don't live in a "food desert."
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 24, 2014 06:59 PM (KkVB6)
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 24, 2014 06:57 PM (tsGZY)
There's nothing on God's green earth more disgusting than creamed onions. It's the culinary equivalent of kissing Michelle Obama on the mouth.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 06:59 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 24, 2014 06:59 PM (41ijT)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 24, 2014 06:59 PM (FMbng)
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I was told there would be no planning involved.
Posted by: Ebter at November 24, 2014 06:59 PM (z27Ny)
Bingo!
"Free Range" is a carefully crafted legal definition that allows many large operations to label their product for maximum profit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 07:00 PM (Zu3d9)
When I did some research into public housing in Milwaukee, I learn the units come with no kitchen appliances. (I assume because they used to and the residents would destroy or sell them.)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 07:00 PM (ZKzrr)
I suspect there is a lot of mislabeling of packages, but I'm just a cynic.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 24, 2014 06:58 PM (WNERA)
__________
There's a USDA organic certification
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:00 PM (0LHZx)
My grandmother did the same with bacon fat--kept a can of it right on the stove for easy access. Makes some amazing popcorn.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 24, 2014 07:00 PM (J0IP0)
Posted by: mugiwara at November 24, 2014 07:00 PM (3a584)
Shit just wants to grow. A good frig that maintains 33 degrees and it keeps for weeks.
Posted by: Stinky Sock at November 24, 2014 07:00 PM (zxQ4h)
Posted by: OG Celtic-Tesseract at November 24, 2014 07:00 PM (ojfYH)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 06:57 PM (ZKzrr)
****
Heyyy....nowwwww!
Posted by: Lena Dunham at November 24, 2014 07:00 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: --- at November 24, 2014 07:00 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at November 24, 2014 07:00 PM (YaiCw)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 06:59 PM (oKE6c)
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Thank you for telling. I would have never known./
Posted by: RioBravo at November 24, 2014 07:01 PM (z27Ny)
Posted by: Fritz at November 24, 2014 07:01 PM (UzPAd)
Yeah, but those wraparound skirts came off really easily, so batting .500!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 07:01 PM (Zu3d9)
Better than covered in shit. More cases of botulism and other gastric sicknesses from organic than processed foods.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at November 24, 2014 07:01 PM (3QAtO)
Posted by: --- at November 24, 2014 07:01 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: dogfish at November 24, 2014 07:01 PM (1vYi0)
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Any time I hear that I challenge them to document a single person who has starved to death in America, who was not hiding, or hidden.
Same thing about 'children going to bed hungry' . I ask for a shred of proof. Inevitably, they come up with a survey. Just as inevitably, when one checks the survey, one discovers that the way the 'fact' was established, was by questioning groups of children, "Have you ever gone to bed hungry?" Science, right?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 24, 2014 07:01 PM (l1zOH)
ingredients for chili into the pot in the morning for supper that night,
for example.
Yeah but then you set yourself up for total humiliation on blog comment sections by making chili with beans. Is it really worth it?
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 24, 2014 07:02 PM (+lsX1)
Meanwhile, our middle class family of three (soon to be four) eats three nutritious square meals per day, every day, seven days a week, 52 weeks a year, for an average of $55 each week in groceries.
Yeah, eating garbage is "cheap".
Posted by: Fringe at November 24, 2014 07:02 PM (oWl4T)
Posted by: USDA Organic Certification guy surfing porn while at "work" at November 24, 2014 07:02 PM (MNq6o)
And low sodium canned tomatoes, not sauce, with a whole grain or dried bean is still going to have greater nutritional value than a Big Mac or Kraft Mac cheese.
People make choices. That's fine. But when I'm paying for their poor choices, they invite criticism about their excuses.
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 07:02 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Gregor Mendel at November 24, 2014 07:02 PM (aWQkK)
Cupins can help too. I don't coupon very often, but I absolutely hate waste.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 24, 2014 07:02 PM (WNERA)
HS home ec is where I learned how to put jarred pizza sauce on English muffins.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 07:02 PM (ZKzrr)
That includes you, Mooch Obama.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at November 24, 2014 07:02 PM (OWjjx)
This is not to say one shouldn't prepare one's own food. This was just my experience as a single childless chick (who didn't like to cook.)
And Vivienne whatever her name is deserves to have ride things said about her. Rich *privileged* liberals are so empathetic toward the plight of the common man.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at November 24, 2014 07:02 PM (r+7wo)
patties. If that's too much trouble to fix you deserve to be fat.
1) No, you can't.
2) That's the sort of shit that makes you fat.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 07:03 PM (ZKzrr)
I suspect there is a lot of mislabeling of packages, but I'm just a cynic.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 24, 2014 06:58 PM (WNERA)
__________
There's a USDA organic certification
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:00 PM (0LHZx)
Oh, well if the government certifies it, then it's OK.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 07:03 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 07:02 PM (9BRsg)
Do I even have to write it?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 07:03 PM (Zu3d9)
humiliation on blog comment sections by making chili with beans. Is it
really worth it?
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head
Awww snap!
Posted by: That guy with a SNAP card at November 24, 2014 07:03 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: Fewenuff at November 24, 2014 06:50 PM (zPNX5)
Yep Fewenuff, I starved on pasta mostly with some veggies. But Italians ate some weird crap. Pork brains were throw away and good baked with bread crumbs. in fact just had tripe last week in Menudo. Mom took 11 of the $12 I earned a week at grocery store and saved it for college..lol.. the $1 bought a 'spaldeen', or ball of some sort.
AND I walked 50 miles to school in the snow...with no boots. Didn't everyone older than dirt like me. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Posted by: Viv Savage at November 24, 2014 07:03 PM (HRo7B)
I have a real problem with that statement...
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at November 24, 2014 06:26 PM (f0pWu)
This was the only true fact in her entire spew.
Posted by: FDR's Television at November 24, 2014 07:03 PM (ne2fm)
Now go to a Walmart and look what the 300 lb people have in their shopping carts...nothing but processed junk.
It's not a coincidence.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:04 PM (0LHZx)
- - - - - - -
" broke-dick dog"
Outstanding ! So gonna save that for an appropriate occasion !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 24, 2014 07:04 PM (go6ud)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 24, 2014 07:04 PM (+lsX1)
Shit just wants to grow. A good frig that maintains 33 degrees and it keeps for weeks.
Posted by: Stinky
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You don't have ground hogs around your garden, do you? Green? Leafy? Gone by noon.
Arguably, they could be regarded as a protein source, I suppose.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 24, 2014 07:04 PM (l1zOH)
Alar. That shit will kill you.
Posted by: 60 Minutes at November 24, 2014 07:04 PM (8ZskC)
units come with no kitchen appliances. (I assume because they used to
and the residents would destroy or sell them.)
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If these folks have no spending money - none - then they're boned. If not, they can spend a few hundred bucks investing in a fridge, hot plate, etc, instead of on new sneakers or cell phones.
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 07:05 PM (9BRsg)
Amen!
The only way I can get cheap(er) fruits and veggies is at a separate store called "Sprouts." Unfortunately, they recently revamped the store which resulted in less space for produce and more shelving for their Whole Foods-like chi-chi dry goods, like organic canned veggies and herbal toiletries. Ugh.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 24, 2014 07:05 PM (ABcz/)
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No, that's stupid.
Farmer's market's are self-selected for younger, healthier populations.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 24, 2014 07:06 PM (zwdxl)
Good for you for getting weekends off.
OK, fine, I'm stupid and lazy and deserve be shunned by society because my "bad priorities" involve earning the money to keep a roof over my head instead of living in a cardboard box under a bridge but eating "healthy dried beans" three meals a day.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 07:06 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: A Bear at November 24, 2014 07:06 PM (8ZskC)
When I was single I would roast a chicken on sunday and eat on it the rest of the week with a pack of tortilla, a head of lettuce and a few 'maters...oh, and the Tabasco sauce!
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at November 24, 2014 07:06 PM (uSAVP)
Posted by: Lifeline Assistance Program at November 24, 2014 07:06 PM (z27Ny)
You didn't make it clear whether the great flocks of North Carolina ostrich are free-range and organic.
Posted by: Anachronda at November 24, 2014 07:07 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: tmitsss at November 24, 2014 07:07 PM (Pa9vP)
Posted by: --- at November 24, 2014 07:07 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: OG Celtic-Tesseract at November 24, 2014 07:00 PM (ojfYH)
Yeah but what's the fat content?
Posted by: Viv Savage at November 24, 2014 07:07 PM (HRo7B)
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 24, 2014 07:07 PM (fL/7/)
Rice and beans...complete protein!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo a
Not really. Beans are less complete than that of casein, egg, or meat.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 24, 2014 07:07 PM (s9AKD)
Someone else here watches Adventure Time?
Posted by: please dont squeeze the soothie at November 24, 2014 07:07 PM (1K6n1)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President of the Sheena Easton Fan Club at November 24, 2014 07:08 PM (OWjjx)
Posted by: A Bear at November 24, 2014 07:06 PM (8ZskC)
*****
Funny! I was about to say the same thing.
Posted by: Timothy Treadwell at November 24, 2014 07:08 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Grey Fox at November 24, 2014 07:08 PM (NWhp3)
There will be a lot of mischief nearby followed by a sprint to the safe zone.
Should be interesting.
Posted by: Meremortal at November 24, 2014 07:08 PM (1Y+hH)
But the organic fruits and veggies are generally about 25% higher than the regular stuff. I choose the regular type.
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 07:08 PM (9BRsg)
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Any time I hear that I challenge them to document a single person who has starved to death in America, who was not hiding, or hidden.
Same thing about 'children going to bed hungry' . I ask for a shred of proof. Inevitably, they come up with a survey. Just as inevitably, when one checks the survey, one discovers that the way the 'fact' was established, was by questioning groups of children, "Have you ever gone to bed hungry?" Science, right?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 24, 2014 07:01 PM (l1zOH)
I've done that too. They always say there are lots, but just ... uh ... somewhere else. Somewhere they've been and I haven't, which would be pretty much ... nowhere.
Another favorite: "OK, not everyone is starving. But a lot of people are 'food insecure.'" WTF does that mean?
My town allowed a "Fight Hunger" outfit to promote themselves here. Their website featured a bunch of "success stories" of people they'd helped, with photographs of the unfortunates. The approximate chin count per person was 3. I emailed them to say that their pitch would be more effective if they featured people whose feet got wet when they showered.
Their response? They got rid of the photos on their site.
True story.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 07:08 PM (oKE6c)
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It's called selection bias.
It's like when people travel to Europe and come back talking about how slim and fit Europeans are compared to Americans.
Not really, obesity rates aren't that much lower in Europe.
What it is, is when you go on vacation you visit sites in the city centers with lots of walking. You aren't the suburbs with the older people or ill people who are at home.
It's like going to a college town and thinking there's some magic that makes everyone so fit. Yeah, it's called being young.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 24, 2014 07:09 PM (zwdxl)
One regard in which I will cut people living in old urban areas some slack is that their soil is often chock-full of lead from old paint and ethyl gasoline, and completely unfit for kitchen gardening.
In fact, there was a massive fiasco early on in the Obama administration when Mooch commandeered a big swathe of White House lawn to create her own "natural organic garden".
The resulting produce (some of which may have been fed to visiting school kids before the problem was realized) blew the needle out of the top range of the lead meter.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 24, 2014 07:09 PM (noWW6)
Amen!
The only way I can get cheap(er) fruits and veggies is at a separate store called "Sprouts." Unfortunately, they recently revamped the store which resulted in less space for produce and more shelving for their Whole Foods-like chi-chi dry goods, like organic canned veggies and herbal toiletries. Ugh.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 24, 2014 07:05 PM (ABcz/)
My town recently got a new Alfalfa's.
After about two months, they put an ad out that said "they'd been listening" and were lowering prices on everything.
They're still pricey -- everything is organic.
Some stuff, though, competes with Safeway, King Soopers, and Albertson's.
Posted by: jwb7605 at November 24, 2014 07:09 PM (ZALPg)
You must have weighed under 100lbs. A roasted chicken lasts me two days. White meat day one . Dark meat day two.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at November 24, 2014 07:09 PM (3QAtO)
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No, that's stupid.
Farmer's market's are self-selected for younger, healthier populations.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 24, 2014 07:06 PM (zwdxl)
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No you have it backwards. People who eat well are healthy. They are healthy BECAUSE they eat fresh food from farmers markets. They self select in that they select to be healthy. While people who eat nothing but processed shit select to be unhealthy, although most don't realize it.
And it's not just young people at farmers markets. And no it's also not just progressives. People of all walks of life and politics realize that eating well is a good thing. Why so many conservatives shit on the idea of eating well is beyond me.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:09 PM (0LHZx)
What kind of donuts?
Because if you include fresh-from-the-oil apple crullers from KingPin Donuts in Berkeley, I am on your side.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 07:09 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: OG Celtic-Tesseract at November 24, 2014 07:09 PM (ojfYH)
Yes, it is.
Posted by: Grey
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Easy for you to say.
Posted by: Sir John Franklin at November 24, 2014 07:09 PM (l1zOH)
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Yes, it is.
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Yeah, I'm not getting the hate on canned (or jarred) veggies.
Frozen veggies can be cheap around here, too, if you have a chest freezer to buy it at Costco or some place.
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (9BRsg)
Should be interesting.
Posted by: Meremortal
I hope those churches like spray paint "art". They're gonna be full of it.
Posted by: Dang at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (MNq6o)
Seriously. I buy whole chickens. If I don't roast them whole, they get cut up for parts. The carcase goes into a pot and becomes stock. What I pick off that becomes a serving or two of chicken salad or soup. If it's a duck, the skin and fat get saved. Everything but the cluck, people...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (AmEQo)
you'll be hard pressed to find fat people. These are the people that eat
organic, free range, etc.
Now go to a Walmart and look what the 300 lb people have in their shopping carts...nothing but processed junk.
It's not a coincidence.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:04 PM (0LHZx)"
It also proves nothing. I've shopped at Wal-Mart exclusively for groceries before and I'm the picture of health for someone 20 years younger.
You can eat just fine at Wal-Mart.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (N2tYd)
been declared 'safe' or in other words 'criminals only' zones."
Widely publicizing a non-engagement of mosques policy worked out ever so well when the military did it in Southwest Asia.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (noWW6)
Moo Moo you may think you're the brightest light in the hall, and for all I know you may be, but the food at the farmers market is not free range/organic. It's just regular food. Yes it's cheaper and fresher but it came out of the same field the food at the grocery store came from.
Free range/organic is not the same as fresh! Free range is a rip off. I know what I'm talking about.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (gA96L)
Posted by: anchovy at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (PtVFw)
Now go to a Walmart and look what the 300 lb people have in their shopping carts...nothing but processed junk.
It's not a coincidence.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:04 PM (0LHZx)
Selection bias - it's what for lunch.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (oKE6c)
I'm a democrat voter who eats organic and exercises regularly by fucking my neighbors wife on the Jungle Jim at the local school.
Posted by: Loyal Democrat Voter at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (3/wAJ)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 24, 2014 07:11 PM (go6ud)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (xSCb6)
Especially if you harvest a couple of those nicely marbled 300-pounders every so often.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 07:11 PM (Zu3d9)
just progressives. People of all walks of life and politics realize that
eating well is a good thing.
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Eating well is a good thing. But you have not made your case that "organic" veggies are required to do that.
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 07:11 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 07:03 PM (oKE6c)
The organic "certification" is written by for the USDA by the same type of lawyers that wrote the ACA.
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 24, 2014 07:11 PM (fL/7/)
Posted by: Idly Obscurtia at November 24, 2014 07:11 PM (9z6Kz)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 24, 2014 07:02 PM (ZKzrr)<<<
Hahaha. That was dinner yesterday while watching football.
Posted by: Moron who has donuts... delicious cider dounts at November 24, 2014 07:11 PM (H/9vm)
Posted by: Dang at November 24, 2014 07:11 PM (MNq6o)
Stolen from my Facebook time line
Posted by: Tmitsss at November 24, 2014 07:12 PM (Pa9vP)
been declared 'safe' or in other words 'criminals only' zones."
Fergustan is going to have a lot of free range assholes out tonight.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 07:12 PM (oKE6c)
mother (who thinks she is richer than she is). What a smelly,
pretentious store. My face muscles hurt from the constant eye-rolling I
do.
Posted by: Baldy at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (+35FH)
Can't you shop there once, save the bags (they must have paper!) and receipt, and then go to a regular grocery store but show her the bags and receipt from WF?
Posted by: Retread at November 24, 2014 07:12 PM (l7hog)
And it's not just young people at farmers markets. And no it's also not just progressives. People of all walks of life and politics realize that eating well is a good thing. Why so many conservatives shit on the idea of eating well is beyond me.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:09 PM (0LHZx)
Most of us are healthy because we walk down to the Farmer's Market, buy a few items, get a donut and coffee, and walk back with a bag full of veggies.
Posted by: jwb7605 at November 24, 2014 07:12 PM (ZALPg)
With this collection of sentences, you'd be wise to refrain from pointing out that anyone else has anything backwards.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 24, 2014 07:12 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 24, 2014 07:12 PM (41ijT)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (oKE6c)
I'll bet a bottle of excellent single malt Scotch that there are no more than 10 journalists in the entire country who understand the flaw in that argument.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 07:12 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at November 24, 2014 07:13 PM (3QAtO)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at November 24, 2014 07:13 PM (dIj2m)
Not really, obesity rates aren't that much lower in Europe.
What it is, is when you go on vacation you visit sites in the city centers with lots of walking. You aren't the suburbs with the older people or ill people who are at home.
It's like going to a college town and thinking there's some magic that makes everyone so fit. Yeah, it's called being young.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 24, 2014 07:09 PM (zwdxl)
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No people in Europe are less fat than in America. Look at any obesity rate by country survey and it's not even close.
And no it's called being young. It's called living an active lifestyle. Not everyone in Boulder is 21. But everyone in Boulder does shit like ski, bike, rafting. Same with Missoula, same with every other college town.
College towns are also pretty wealthy, relatively speaking. So it feeds into itself. Rich people eat well, they exercise, they have kids who grow up eating well and exercising etc.
None of this happens by accident.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:13 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Jenny Steinan-Jones-Carter at November 24, 2014 07:13 PM (Sd++4)
I have them. Then I kill them. I have so many turkey vultures hanging around my yard it looks like a cheerful Heironymus Bosch painting.
Posted by: Stinky Sock at November 24, 2014 07:13 PM (zxQ4h)
all I know you may be, but the food at the farmers market is not free
range/organic. It's just regular food. Yes it's cheaper and fresher but
it came out of the same field the food at the grocery store came from.
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Around here it doesn't seem to be cheaper. And it doesn't keep as well. And half the folks manning the booths look like illegals who probably haven't washed their hands.
Seriously.
I go from time to time to get inspiration on new ingredients and occasionally try something new, but it's more of an entertainment thing for me. It's not an efficient way to shop for groceries, in my case.
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 07:13 PM (9BRsg)
Before the white man came to our land, my people would collect the clucks to be offered up in sacrifice to the Great Spirit. Nothing went to waste.
Posted by: Elizabeth "Three Wolf Moon" Warren at November 24, 2014 07:13 PM (8ZskC)
Heh, I remember when the first Alfalfa's opened in Boulder. Loved it. Haven't been in one in years, though. At least Sprout's is cheap and unpretentious.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 24, 2014 07:14 PM (ABcz/)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 06:45 PM (0LHZx)
Last Friday, I spent almost five hours frying up two eggplants and making a small batch of sauce so I could make eggplant parm heroes. I've had them three days in a row, with one more day to go.
Including the breading station, that was still a lot cheaper than having just one eggplant parm hero from the pizza place nearby.
So I take time to make unhealthy food.
Screw that dame (with Mooch's dick).
Posted by: RickZ at November 24, 2014 07:14 PM (OuPhh)
Every time I hear a liberal go that route, I just tell them to write a check. They're welcome to spend as much of their own money as they want to on charity. Just not anyone else's.
Posted by: Keith Arnold at November 24, 2014 07:14 PM (iIzG7)
It's not a coincidence.
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I buy some of my groceries at Wal-Mart, because they have lower prices on most things than other local supermarkets (Fry's and Albertson's and Safeway, around here).
It's surprising what you can find at Wal-Marts these days.
Just yesterday I bought a bag of coconut flour at Wal-Mart. They sell it at one of the pricier health foods stores here, but just recently started selling it at Wal-Mart. I use the coconut flour, along with milled flax seed (which I also buy at Wal-Mart) to make low-carb muffins.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 24, 2014 07:15 PM (2ruKl)
See? Overpopulation! I warned ya!
If it weren't for Norman Borlaug and those meddling kids...
Posted by: Paul Erlich at November 24, 2014 07:15 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (9BRsg)
I read somewhere that flash frozen veggies retain more nutrients than those that are 'fresh' shipped cross country and such. FACT!
Posted by: Viv Savage at November 24, 2014 07:15 PM (HRo7B)
Posted by: jwb7605 at November 24, 2014 07:12 PM (ZALPg)
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It's all intertwined. See my comment at 7:13. It's a lifestyle choice. And part of a lifestyle choice is what you eat. And typically those who eat well also live well, ie they don't smoke, they keep active, they get seek out good medical care.
But you can exercise all you want and not smoke, but if you eat nothing but processed garbage you won't be healthy.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:16 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: The Progs at November 24, 2014 07:16 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at November 24, 2014 07:16 PM (NeFrd)
Then maybe MooMoo can start making a real argument.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 24, 2014 07:16 PM (xSCb6)
Heh, I remember when the first Alfalfa's opened in Boulder. Loved it. Haven't been in one in years, though. At least Sprout's is cheap and unpretentious.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 24, 2014 07:14 PM (ABcz/)
This one is pretentious, too.
But they also host town meetings, etc.
And it's East county. Louisville.
Posted by: jwb7605 at November 24, 2014 07:16 PM (ZALPg)
Because Patsy and Edina are real
Edina was always wearing Westwood
Her character was a PR person
Vapid Cubed
Posted by: ginaswo at November 24, 2014 07:17 PM (+X1qa)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 24, 2014 07:10 PM (xSCb6)
Especially if you harvest a couple of those nicely marbled 300-pounders every so often.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 07:11 PM (Zu3d9)
___________________________
I now know I'm sick because that made me laugh.
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 24, 2014 07:17 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 24, 2014 07:17 PM (KCxzN)
well we just want the carnivores to die off.
Posted by: PETA at November 24, 2014 07:17 PM (HRo7B)
And there are always a lot more poor people when Socialists/Progressives/Communists are in charge.
Have you noticed the increase in the poor since TFG took orifice? The numbers are everywhere that he's not good for the economy.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at November 24, 2014 07:17 PM (0HooB)
Racist.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
No, he's OK. Has to be eaten in that order cuz, "once you go black you never go back".
Posted by: Meremortal at November 24, 2014 07:17 PM (1Y+hH)
all I know you may be, but the food at the farmers market is not free
range/organic. It's just regular food. Yes it's cheaper and fresher but
it came out of the same field the food at the grocery store came from.
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Depends what farm it's from. But that's not the point. The point is if you're making an effort to go to a farmer's market, you are making a choice to eat well.
I didn't mean to say eating from a Farmers Market is healthier. I said look who gies there vs look who eats packaged junk and you will see a very distinct difference in health.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:17 PM (0LHZx)
Correlation does not equal causation.
And I make no apologies for not wanting to cook in my spare time and buying food instead. I find cooking boring. I take responsibility for any adverse health effects (none I can tell so far).
To each his own, as long as we all take responsibility for our actions, which could include not having any money because one insists on buying only organic and free range stuff on a meagre income.
I will confess to favoring meat and eggs from animals that eat only plant products.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at November 24, 2014 07:18 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 24, 2014 07:17 PM (WNERA)
Yeah, CBD got me with that one too. lol.
Posted by: PETA at November 24, 2014 07:18 PM (HRo7B)
I bet you think the infant mortality rate is a lot lower in Europe too.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at November 24, 2014 07:18 PM (3QAtO)
Posted by: NCKate at November 24, 2014 07:19 PM (9KFuH)
Posted by: what a surprise at November 24, 2014 07:19 PM (WqBzG)
Posted by: RioBravo at November 24, 2014 07:19 PM (z27Ny)
Posted by: Mr. Muumuu at November 24, 2014 07:19 PM (NeFrd)
He's pretty tubby as I recall
So doesn't he need that Whole Foods closer to home?
Shouldn't we really MANDATE that his neighborhood accept that Whole Foods?
It is after all, for his own good
Posted by: ginaswo at November 24, 2014 07:20 PM (+X1qa)
Posted by: major major major major at November 24, 2014 07:20 PM (Izmwi)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at November 24, 2014 07:18 PM (r+7wo)
Free Range Chicken.
Yes. I can taste the difference.
Grass fed beef also has far less fat than corn-fed.
Posted by: jwb7605 at November 24, 2014 07:20 PM (ZALPg)
I'll be watching that instead of 'THE ANNOUNCEMENT'!!!!11!!!
Besides, about half of my immediate neighbors are beaners... they won't give a shit.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 24, 2014 07:20 PM (/mTq0)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 07:20 PM (N2tYd)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 24, 2014 07:20 PM (UVfht)
becomes a serving or two of chicken salad or soup. If it's a duck, the
skin and fat get saved. Everything but the cluck, people...
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When we were first married, I was like this. We were broke. I'd get 4 meals off of one chicken. And, yes, we were a bit thinner then - no car, very little alcohol - but most of the spare pounds we've put on over the years are from eating well but having slower metabolisms and not walking as much.
I guarantee if I cooked with "organic" veggies and free-range chickens and sustainable fish, we'd be just as plump -- which is to say, squishy enough to be pleasant to snuggle with in bed. lol
Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 07:20 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at November 24, 2014 07:18 PM (3QAtO)
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Be you're wrong. I know why it is as they have different definitions of mortality rates. Nice try.
But Americans in general are fat fucks, while Euros aren't. Sorry to burst your bubble. Mexico is quickly catching up. So that's nice.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:20 PM (0LHZx)
I go to farmers markets for one reason....to get really good tomatoes and a few other things that are impossible to find anywhere else.
And I am healthy because I live in the 21st century and have the benefit of living in a highly industrialized society that spent a lot of money for a very long time on basic scientific research that has resulted in unbelievable medical advances.
Getting high quality food has very little to do with it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 07:20 PM (Zu3d9)
Because Patsy and Edina are real
Edina was always wearing Westwood
Her character was a PR person
Vapid Cubed
Posted by: ginaswo at November 24, 2014 07:17 PM (+X1qa)
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Patsy always dressed great. Only time she didn't was when she went "clubbing" Loved her in the guy fawlkes jigalo outfit.
Posted by: The Progs at November 24, 2014 07:21 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 24, 2014 07:21 PM (41ijT)
So...
Someone who goes to a Farmers Market is healthier not because the food is healthier, but because he goes to a Farmers Market.
Got it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 24, 2014 07:22 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: what a surprise at November 24, 2014 07:19 PM (WqBzG)
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Funny how the "conservative" reflex is to shit on anything that liberals do.
OMG liberals eat well? fuck that. Where's my 1800 calorie burger? I'll show those commie fucks how a real man eats.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:22 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 24, 2014 07:23 PM (zOTsN)
Don't tell MooMoo that the obesity stats from Europe are just as gamed as their infant mortality stats.
You can tell he's never strolled down a European beach. Or street.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 24, 2014 07:23 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 24, 2014 07:21 PM (41ijT)
I am afraid that image will be with me for a long time!
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 24, 2014 07:23 PM (fL/7/)
Yes, it is.
Posted by: Grey
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Easy for you to say.
Posted by: Sir John Franklin at November 24, 2014 07:09 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Tmitsss at November 24, 2014 07:23 PM (Pa9vP)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 07:23 PM (N2tYd)
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Posted by: Y-not at November 24, 2014 07:20 PM (9BRsg)
The first 15 years of my marriage, I shot or caught most meals.
BUT, I was an electronic hardware/software engineer.
Worked with nasty chemicals, ended up getting cancer and heart issues anyway.
Retired now. Grow what I can.
Posted by: jwb7605 at November 24, 2014 07:24 PM (ZALPg)
If you've convinced yourself a free range chicken tastes better then have at it. I'm telling you they are literally fed the same CHICKEN FEED! They are not fed some kind of magic chicken dust. The same damn feed. Exactly the same. You are being ripped off.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 24, 2014 07:24 PM (gA96L)
I HATE STARBUCKS!!!!!!!
Oh my god liberals drive a Subaru.
I WILL NEVER BUY SUBARU!!!!!!
Oh my god, liberals eat organic food.
I WILL NEVER EAT ORGANIC FOOD!!!!
That makes sense.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:24 PM (0LHZx)
Zombie apocalypse - those suckers in their electric carts: Meals on Wheels.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 24, 2014 07:21 PM (41ijT)
now you're killin me. lol. ...and I'm getting hungry.
Posted by: PETA at November 24, 2014 07:24 PM (HRo7B)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 24, 2014 07:24 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: NCKate at November 24, 2014 07:24 PM (9KFuH)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 24, 2014 07:24 PM (NtzGn)
Posted by: Viv Savage at November 24, 2014 07:24 PM (HRo7B)
Oct 26, 1989 ...Crack cocaine is pushing infant mortality rates to startlingly high levels in some U.S. cities as addicted mothers give birth to tiny, maimed infants ...
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 24, 2014 07:24 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 24, 2014 07:24 PM (gA96L)
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Free range means they are uhm free range...ie they're not in a cage with the chickens above shitting all over the chickens below 24/7. Has nothing to do with what they're fed.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:25 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Tmitsss at November 24, 2014 07:25 PM (Pa9vP)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 24, 2014 07:23 PM (zOTsN)
That food pyramid is a pile of crap. If the Euros shunned that, then I will finally have something in modern times to praise them for.
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 24, 2014 07:25 PM (KkVB6)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 07:25 PM (N2tYd)
Pointing out the shit in your argument isn't shitting on anything liberals do.
You get a lot of headaches, don't you?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 24, 2014 07:25 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Where my X-Box?
Posted by: dogfish at November 24, 2014 07:25 PM (1vYi0)
Posted by: NCKate at November 24, 2014 07:24 PM (9KFuH)
You're obviously doing it wrong.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 24, 2014 07:25 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: major major major major at November 24, 2014 07:20 PM (Izmwi)
The problem is not that she said poor people should eat more healthily. She's insisting that the eat organic food which is extremely overpriced and would be too expensive for most poor people to live on. And her solution? Just eat less. with no thought given to how little they would end up eating if they had to buy such expensive food.
And remember, she's not really concerned with their health. She just has a feeling of religious superiority because she doesn't eat meat, of all things.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at November 24, 2014 07:26 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 24, 2014 07:26 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 24, 2014 07:25 PM (KkVB6)
invert the pyramid! Eat desert first!
Posted by: Motivational speaker at November 24, 2014 07:27 PM (HRo7B)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 07:27 PM (N2tYd)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 24, 2014 07:23 PM (zOTsN)
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euros are communists and as we all know communists hate triangles
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:27 PM (0LHZx)
We didn't start this, some leftarded elitist c*nt did by thinking she's just oh-so-much-better than everybody else and saying it out loud to a presstitute.
I will not bow to these "people." In fact, I don't care what they think. I just want them to leave me alone, which they refuse to do.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at November 24, 2014 07:27 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: OG Celtic-Tesseract at November 24, 2014 07:28 PM (ojfYH)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 07:27 PM (N2tYd)
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I wonder what the per capita bottled water usage is for EBT holders...
Posted by: RioBravo at November 24, 2014 07:28 PM (z27Ny)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 07:28 PM (N2tYd)
I thought free range had to do with nice treatment, not taste. Free range chickens live in large airy enclosures with unicorns and fountains, while other chickens are in cages where their feet grow into the bottom grates.
Or something along those lines....
Posted by: Meremortal at November 24, 2014 07:29 PM (1Y+hH)
She is pretty sure that a jury of nine white and three blacks cannot possibly come to an unanimous decision.
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 24, 2014 07:29 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: The Progs at November 24, 2014 07:29 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at November 24, 2014 07:29 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 24, 2014 07:30 PM (8ZskC)
Um no free range doesn't mean to roam around like a freaking buffalo. A chicken shits in its on food and water supply. And they are all put in freaking crates on a truck and taken to the chicken plant to be slaughtered.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 24, 2014 07:30 PM (gA96L)
Posted by: Moron who has donuts at November 24, 2014 07:30 PM (H/9vm)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 07:30 PM (N2tYd)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at November 24, 2014 07:30 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Stinky Sock at November 24, 2014 07:30 PM (zxQ4h)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 24, 2014 07:17 PM (0LHZx)
The farmers market near us is frequented by liberal assholes who look down on anyone not carrying their own reusable bags, or drive something other than a Prius. The produce is two to three times what it is at the Safeway down the street, and at least two of the stands are illegal immigrant growers.
So fuck that.
Posted by: Moki at November 24, 2014 07:31 PM (bAB8f)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 07:31 PM (N2tYd)
Posted by: tinfoil baby at November 24, 2014 07:32 PM (hqVUe)
Posted by: notsothoreau at November 24, 2014 07:32 PM (5HBd1)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at November 24, 2014 07:32 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 07:28 PM (N2tYd)
why yes, that could have something to do with it.
if its FACT, and I'm not convinced it is, that Euros are thinner, it also could be because they don't have super markets and have to walk from one specialty store to the next, and gas is expensive so they walk more and could be a host of other variables. and I can make shit up too
Posted by: Viv Savage at November 24, 2014 07:33 PM (HRo7B)
Consider it an incentive. One way or the other.
Posted by: Margie Sangerstalinmao at November 24, 2014 07:33 PM (ojfYH)
We found that same type of chicken in a Spanish grocery store in my area. It's labelled country chicken. Don't know if it's a different strain (?) of chicken or different feeding and living conditions or both.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at November 24, 2014 07:33 PM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at November 24, 2014 07:33 PM (NeFrd)
As far as eating healthy, a good diet is anything that gives you all of the various vitamins and minerals you need to stay alive.
Posted by: Cato at November 24, 2014 07:34 PM (3HxZe)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 07:34 PM (N2tYd)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 24, 2014 07:30 PM (8ZskC)
if you can get them to hold still long enough you need to massage them.
Posted by: Viv Savage at November 24, 2014 07:35 PM (HRo7B)
So, so sick of this. Why does their race matter? Why is she allowed to judge these juror's ability to evaluate the evidence based on their skin color?
Posted by: Lizzy at November 24, 2014 07:35 PM (ABcz/)
Will that get me banned?
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 24, 2014 07:26 PM (WNERA)
His exposure to secondhand smoke now is zero, too.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 24, 2014 07:35 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at November 24, 2014 07:33 PM (NeFrd)
F'n Seamus beat me too it and he adds the Happy Ending, and chairs and Shiatsu. Now THATS commentin' I must say.
Posted by: Viv Savage at November 24, 2014 07:37 PM (HRo7B)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at November 24, 2014 07:37 PM (V70Ne)
Posted by: Viv Savage
Well THAT explains everything. I thought you were supposed to choke the damn thing.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 24, 2014 07:37 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Chicken Fucker at November 24, 2014 07:37 PM (ojfYH)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 07:37 PM (N2tYd)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 24, 2014 07:37 PM (gA96L)
So, so sick of this. Why does their race matter? Why is she allowed to judge these juror's ability to evaluate the evidence based on their skin color?
Posted by: Lizzy at November 24, 2014 07:35 PM (ABcz/)
Because if the blacks on the jury agree that the officer demonstrated self-defense, they are race-traitors. And we all know whites are racist by virtue of their skin color.
(Do I need a sarc tag?)
Posted by: Moki at November 24, 2014 07:38 PM (bAB8f)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 24, 2014 07:38 PM (N2tYd)
Thankfully, one of the local grocery stores has a regular "5 for $25" section in the meat department. I can get chicken, pork, even some decent steaks there each week.
Yesterday, I slow cooked a bottom round roast in a chipolte-salsa sauce and shredded it. It's been my dinner main course for two nights now. Cost of all the ingredients: less than $20.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 24, 2014 07:39 PM (Pd9h2)
Posted by: That pilot from airplane that may be related to Matt Dillon. at November 24, 2014 07:44 PM (hqVUe)
Laying hens are allowed to get much older before they are killed, and develop more flavor (and, as you say, toughness).
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2014 07:45 PM (Zu3d9)
well
given Mr Browns behavior the day he died
perhaps his death at such a young age saved the lives of young black people in his neighborhood
who is to say?
Posted by: ThunderB at November 24, 2014 07:48 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Rotaryu at November 24, 2014 07:50 PM (1Cqpn)
I can live on rice and beans
Some people never worked a day in their life
Don't know what work even means
~Bob Dylan, "Workingman's Blues #2"
Posted by: rickl at November 24, 2014 07:54 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Kreplach at November 24, 2014 08:02 PM (nVFrY)
would collect the clucks to be offered up in sacrifice to the Great
Spirit. Nothing went to waste.
Posted by: Elizabeth "Three Wolf Moon" Warren at November 24, 2014 07:13 PM
I LOL'd.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2014 08:37 PM (AmEQo)
Posted by: PBJ5959 at November 24, 2014 08:40 PM (9CXPY)
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