Don Lemon to Bill Cosby Accuser: Why Didn't You Just Bite His Penis?

A lot of hubbub about a gay black guy asking a straight white woman strange questions regarding her allegations of rape against a straight black guy.

"Can I ask you this -- and please, I don't mean to be crude," Lemon began, setting up his state of non-responsibility for the question to come.
"You know, there are ways not to perform oral sex if you don't want to do it," he said.
Tarshis, clearly surprised by the obvious implication of Lemon's coy comment, explained defensively that she was stoned at the time of the alleged incident, which she says happened when she was 19, adding "quite honestly, that didn’t even enter my mind. Now I wish it would have."
"Meaning the using of the teeth, right?" Lemon persisted, for viewers at home.
"Yes, that’s what I’m thinking you're --" Tarshis began.
"As a weapon," Lemon continued.
"I didn't even think of it," Tarshis reiterated.
"Biting," Lemon explained, for good measure.
"Ouch," she said, weakly, completing the TV tableau of a woman being asked by a TV news star on his CNN program to explain to viewers at home she had not taken this basic step to prevent her alleged attacker from raping her.
"I had to ask," Lemon said, putting back on his I'm Not Responsible, Just Doing My Job hat.

It's kind of a dumb, weird question. But that's okay; we are allowed to ask dumb, weird questions.

Or we used to be, anyway. Because of course Lemon is now getting it from the Feminist Left for the crime of How Dare You Subject Anyone Making a Serious Criminal Accusation to Any Skepticism Whatsoever.

In addition to being cravenly insensitive, Lemon's line of questioning shows a remarkable ignorance to how trauma affects people, as well as to how journalists should speak to survivors of sexual assault.
"Telling a survivor of any crime that it could have been avoided is not only disrespectful, it's offensive," Katherine Hull Fliflet, the VP of Communications for the Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN), told VICE. "It's really disheartening to see an interview like this."

Meantime, people are now parodying Lemon:

Let's hear the dude out pic.twitter.com/0NP2ANiQe9
— Patricia Lockwood (@TriciaLockwood) November 19, 2014

Posted by: Ace at 12:32 PM

Comments

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1 Welcome to StompCity!

Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2014 12:33 PM (eEBON)

2 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 20, 2014 12:34 PM (M1uf/)

3 That's a fantastic tweet

Posted by: HoboJerk, Completely Unreasonable at November 20, 2014 12:35 PM (FA3Z7)

4 DrewM is back; time to stompy

Posted by: HoboJerk, Completely Unreasonable at November 20, 2014 12:35 PM (FA3Z7)

5 I believe Don Lemon would know about biting cocks in one's mouth. Jus' sayin'.

Posted by: RickZ at November 20, 2014 12:35 PM (8GQ0X)

6 Great way to get murdered, Don.

Nice suggestion.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2014 12:35 PM (90bkA)

7 There's got to be a Don Lemon black hole joke somewhere in here...

Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2014 12:35 PM (eEBON)

8 ROTFLMFAO.

but it is a good question... i'd ask how many dicks he's bitten, but DADT.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 20, 2014 12:36 PM (RiMtm)

9 Yeah, we're allowed to ask dumb, weird questions. But people whose job it is to ask good questions, and who get large sums of money and lots of attention and credibility from that job, should really be called out when they ask dumb, weird questions.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at November 20, 2014 12:36 PM (3G1tU)

10 It's a Don Lemon Party!

Posted by: --- at November 20, 2014 12:36 PM (MMC8r)

11 Stupid bastard.

Posted by: kraken at November 20, 2014 12:36 PM (5+mPY)

12
ooooo......

that.would.be.painful.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2014 12:37 PM (NaV4z)

13 I didn't know Don Lemon was gay.

Posted by: Pastorius at November 20, 2014 12:37 PM (gMAUH)

14 Hmm, which card goes better with these shoes? The gay card or the black card?

Posted by: Don Lemon at November 20, 2014 12:37 PM (MNq6o)

15 i wonder why Gabe didn't write a post about this?

;-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 20, 2014 12:37 PM (RiMtm)

16 Is this real life?

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 20, 2014 12:37 PM (BN/jk)

17 14 or the sexual assault survivor card.

Posted by: NCKate at November 20, 2014 12:38 PM (m21KY)

18 I am oppressed by the sound of the name Fliflet. Can I haz reparations?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2014 12:38 PM (7MWCL)

19 Somebody should probably fix that.

@DavidFeith: NSA Director: Yes, China Can Shut Down Our Power Grids http://t.co/nhcWVSEmyc

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 12:38 PM (ZPrif)

20 Damn Don!! Don't give the ette's anymore ideas that they already have, geez!

Posted by: wrg500 at November 20, 2014 12:38 PM (sWgE+)

21 LLama porn:

http://goo.gl/7dItFY

Posted by: The Progs at November 20, 2014 12:39 PM (iQIUe)

22 I have a better suggestion.

Posted by: Lorena Bobbit at November 20, 2014 12:39 PM (/GgDU)

23 16 Is this real life?
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 20, 2014 12:37 PM (BN/jk)
"or just a fantasy" .. zombie Freddy M. says Don Lemon is a stupid bastard.

Posted by: kraken at November 20, 2014 12:39 PM (5+mPY)

24 we're definitely not in Kansas anymore...

this is obviously downtown WTFville.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 20, 2014 12:39 PM (RiMtm)

25 Don Lemon is a mimbo, hired for some unknown reason, either because he is cute, or knows how to not use his teeth on his boss.

Posted by: Baldy at November 20, 2014 12:39 PM (+35FH)

26 Bill,

Call me, dude.

Don

Posted by: --- at November 20, 2014 12:39 PM (MMC8r)

27 Roll it in flour and smack with a Ping-Pong paddle while singing along to "Tiptoe through the Tulips"

Posted by: Arthur C. Cognomen, Curmudgeon-in-Training at November 20, 2014 12:39 PM (RwwCT)

28 16 Is this real life?
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 20, 2014 12:37 PM (BN/jk)

Is this just fantasy?

Posted by: Don Lemon's biting fetish at November 20, 2014 12:39 PM (vgIRn)

29 Maybe she's vegan.

Posted by: --- at November 20, 2014 12:39 PM (MMC8r)

30
Lemon Aid

Lemon Bars

Lemon Drops

Lemon Pops

lemon Meringue

Lemon Pledge

Lemon Oil

..... the jokes almost write themselves....

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2014 12:40 PM (NaV4z)

31 A man cannot recover from flu on Constitutional crises alone!

Posted by: MTF at November 20, 2014 12:40 PM (LISuA)

32 Don Lemon to America-"Why didn't you just bite Obama's Penis?"

America to Don Lemon- "because it was stuck in you media types' mouth...."

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at November 20, 2014 12:40 PM (/4AZU)

33 Uhhhh...

Not to side with the feminists, but it's an oddly dismissive question that fundamentally misunderstands assault.

In other words it's stupid.

And while I agree we all ask stupid questions from time to time, a) dude is ostensibly a professionally journalist and b) there's stupid then there's this level of stupid.

I wouldn't ask someone who was mugged "why didn't you just start throwing punches" either. I'd be mocked, and rightfully so!

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be in 7 (short) weeks! at November 20, 2014 12:41 PM (HDwDg)

34 I think it's ok to smash lemon on this. Didn't he scold Americans about their squimishness about gays? He is the arbiter of all sexual congress. He asked it. It's fair criticism of him

Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2014 12:41 PM (Z36SR)

35 Just IMAGINE if Ted Cruz said this.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at November 20, 2014 12:41 PM (fwARV)

36 Don Lemon to America-"Why didn't you just bite Obama's Penis?"

America to Don Lemon- "because it was stuck in you media types' mouth...."
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at November 20, 2014 12:40 PM (/4AZU)

----

Looks like Svens got an early lock on threadwinner....

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2014 12:41 PM (NaV4z)

37 NSA Director: Yes, China Can Shut Down Our Power Grids http://t.co/nhcWVSEmyc

Wait. What?

Okay... I'm not exactly a believer in The Singularity, here. I don't *really* think the machines are going to rise up and kill us all.

Nevertheless, I do know something about data and system security, and I know that the best way to secure a system is to prevent any possibility of access. That is to say... why the f*ck is our power grid accessible by ANY external method?

That is, I presume he's not just saying, "Oh, yeah, they could simultaneously bomb several power plants, and cause the grid to crash," because that's something different (and not something you'd expect the NSA to be talking about).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 20, 2014 12:42 PM (M1uf/)

38

The "Biting" was completely unnecessary and foolish. He sounds like the person who so cleverly sockpuppets BEN ROTHLESTBERGER (or whatever).

Posted by: imp at November 20, 2014 12:42 PM (q+XDW)

39 Worked for me.

Posted by: Andy Dufresne at November 20, 2014 12:42 PM (vgIRn)

40 test

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2014 12:42 PM (8ZskC)

41 She could have peed on herself and then thrown up, too.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2014 12:42 PM (iS51R)

42 Lemon should be on The View.

Permanently.

Posted by: --- at November 20, 2014 12:42 PM (MMC8r)

43 "Because of course Lemon is now getting it from the Feminist Left for the crime of How Dare You Subject Anyone Making a Serious Criminal Accusation to Any Skepticism Whatsoever."

How these people will suffer when we return to truly dark times. The sensitivity police are killing resilience. Life ain't fuckin' fair, and if we ever get to the point where we're worried about food, water, shelter, basic security, the people who indulge in this leftist cult of offendedness and treat victimhood as the trump card of celebrity are going to be dog food really, really fast. The skill singlehandedly most important to success and survival is resilience, and we're conditioning out of our people.

Posted by: 0302 at November 20, 2014 12:43 PM (N6eLE)

44 That's not how it's done, Don.

Posted by: A. Moehl at November 20, 2014 12:43 PM (iS51R)

45 Gay Black Man vs. Feminists...Now we will learn Who Is Higher On The Victim Totem Pole!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Family-Sized DOOM! at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2014 12:43 PM (hLRSq)

46 Alan Dershowitz-Johnson is right!

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2014 12:43 PM (JO9+V)

47 Do we *really* need a power grid?

Free Beacon @FreeBeacon 2m
NSA Chief Warns Chinese Cyber Attacks Could Shut U.S. Infrastructure http://goo.gl/Vo79eP

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 12:44 PM (ZPrif)

48 Hey, hey, hey roofipied.

Posted by: Fat Albert at November 20, 2014 12:44 PM (zxQ4h)

49 The way you squeeze my Lemon, I'm gonna fall right out of bed.

Posted by: Countrysquire at November 20, 2014 12:44 PM (eEBON)

50 Gay Black Man vs. Feminists...Now we will learn Who Is Higher On The Victim Totem Pole!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Family-Sized DOOM! at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2014 12:43 PM (hLRSq)

----

Let me clear.... we learned that about 6 years ago....

Posted by: Barrack Obama at November 20, 2014 12:44 PM (NaV4z)

51 Weren't the women drugged and or drunk?

Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2014 12:44 PM (Z36SR)

52 Sheesh. Doesn't this guy know that in today's America women have no obligaion to resist rape, or to be responsible for themselves and their security at any point? Indeed, it is proven that women often fail to realize they have been raped until the next day or even weeks later, so how can we ask them to consider aggressive self defense that might not even be warranted? Heck, even suggesting that women use a tool to check their drinks for drug tampering is an affront against decency. Nope - we must accept total passivity by women - anything else is teh evil patriarchy at work and probably involves slut-shaming and cis-norming and other horribly horrible things.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 20, 2014 12:44 PM (reacA)

53 Is this real life?
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 20, 2014 12:37 PM

I think it's fantasy.

Posted by: Scaramouche at November 20, 2014 12:45 PM (knoK7)

54 When life gives you Lemon, bite his dick.

Posted by: --- at November 20, 2014 12:45 PM (MMC8r)

55 Well Lemon should know

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2014 12:45 PM (M0mf2)

56 45 Gay Black Man vs. Feminists...Now we will learn Who Is Higher On The Victim Totem Pole!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Family-Sized DOOM! at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2014 12:43 PM (hLRSq)

Meanwhile, back in Mosul.... is there any wonder why ISIS scorns us?

Posted by: kraken at November 20, 2014 12:45 PM (5+mPY)

57 He's gay, black and a sexual assault victim himself. He will get a triple pass.

Posted by: NCKate at November 20, 2014 12:45 PM (m21KY)

58 In fairness, Don was probably just talking from personal experience.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2014 12:46 PM (g1DWB)

59 Supposedly he apologized and said something like--he's been a victim too.

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 20, 2014 12:46 PM (RJMhd)

60 Something is lost on me - why can't yousimply pass a law making it ILLEGAL for the president to change the citizenship status of any personwithout the specific authorization of congress. Just directly address any abiguity in how the immigration laws are enforced. Also include in the law criminal prosecution for violation of the law.

Posted by: Dr. McCoy at November 20, 2014 12:46 PM (/EkKm)

61 It's apparent that black Don Lemon is emotionally raping the white woman victim all over again. Eleventy!!!!!!!!11111!1!

Posted by: kathysaysso at November 20, 2014 12:46 PM (jPT60)

62 Posted by: --- at November 20, 2014 12:45 PM (MMC8r)

Thx for the laugh. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2014 12:46 PM (RZlSA)

63 Wiki: "During an on-air interview with members of Bishop Eddie Long's congregation in September 2010, Lemon said that he was a victim of sexual abuse as a child,"

Shocker.

Posted by: --- at November 20, 2014 12:47 PM (MMC8r)

64 Presumably that's the 79 attacks we noticed.

CNN Tech @cnntech
Hackers attacked the U.S. energy grid 79 times this year http://cnnmon.ie/1vlWhi5

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 12:47 PM (ZPrif)

65 I believe this is Don's way of announcing that if Bill ever wanted to play for the other team, Don is his huckleberry.

Posted by: Fritz at November 20, 2014 12:47 PM (UzPAd)

66 59 Supposedly he apologized and said something like--he's been a victim too.

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 20, 2014 12:46 PM (RJMhd)

So he HAS been to the White House.

Posted by: kraken at November 20, 2014 12:47 PM (5+mPY)

67 I'm pretty sure he isn't saying he's a victim of Bill Cosby...he wasn't clear on that.

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 20, 2014 12:47 PM (RJMhd)

68 >It's a Don Lemon Party!

Eww.

Posted by: salfter at November 20, 2014 12:48 PM (kmvkg)

69
why can't yousimply pass a law making it ILLEGAL for the president to change the citizenship status of any personwithout the specific authorization of congress.

Posted by: Dr. McCoy at November 20, 2014 12:46 PM (/EkKm

And what president in his right mind would sign that into law?

Posted by: wrg500 at November 20, 2014 12:48 PM (sWgE+)

70
Yeah, I'm kinda ... no, I won't say I am on the feminists' side, I happen to have the same opinion.

I dated a girl in college who had been forced to blow a high school janitor. It traumatized her for life.

I got her to go down on me the first time we hooked up because it was usually easier to get head than to get the whole enchilada and she broke down crying afterwards and told me the story. Really messed her up. And after college she got fat, as rape victims often do.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 20, 2014 12:48 PM (JtwS4)

71 He can ask if she tried to resist or fight back. And he can be criticsized for blaming the drugged victim. Both are fair

Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2014 12:48 PM (Z36SR)

72 Funny, but when I heard about Fredo's Amnesty plans, the first thing that went thru my head was: "Bite me"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2014 12:48 PM (M0mf2)

73 Ruffies and lemon aid.

Posted by: redenzo at November 20, 2014 12:48 PM (WCnJW)

74 Look, another dick in the snow.
My, what a fine, firm one it is too.
Soon, my collection will be complete.

Posted by: Tumnus at November 20, 2014 12:48 PM (sH832)

75 63 Wiki: "During an on-air interview with members of Bishop Eddie Long's congregation in September 2010, Lemon said that he was a victim of sexual abuse as a child,"

Shocker.
Posted by: --- at November 20, 2014 12:47 PM (MMC8r)
So, he DID know Michael Jackson.

Posted by: kraken at November 20, 2014 12:49 PM (5+mPY)

76 60 Something is lost on me - why can't yousimply pass a law making it ILLEGAL for the president to change the citizenship status of any personwithout the specific authorization of congress. Just directly address any abiguity in how the immigration laws are enforced. Also include in the law criminal prosecution for violation of the law.
Posted by: Dr. McCoy at November 20, 2014 12:46 PM (/EkKm)

'Cause the president has to sign it to make it law. And the GOP doesn't take over the Senate until January, anyway.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at November 20, 2014 12:49 PM (vgIRn)

77

Supposedly Lemon has been sexually abused himself. Not sure the extent.

I wonder what he did to ward off the attacker(s).

Sorry, I'm in the, this was a stupid ass comment camp. Especially, if he's been there.

Drugged? Yeah, no, not thinking clearly.

A child, or a woman with a much larger man? Yeah, no, you're frightened to death, and it's hard to think.

I don't think he needed to apologize, I'm so sick of the apologies. They are fake anyway. He meant to ask, so he did.

Just dumb.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2014 12:49 PM (IXrOn)

78 Dick Biting worked for me!

Posted by: Kathleen Turner as Barbara Rose at November 20, 2014 12:49 PM (JO9+V)

79 What are the odds?

Charles C. W. Cooke @charlescwcooke
The exact number of plans needed for Obamacare to reach its target were erroneously included in the total. Amazing. http://ccwc.me/1uXoYR3

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 12:49 PM (ZPrif)

80 e apologized and said something like--he's been a victim too.

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 20, 2014 12:46 PM (RJMhd)

So he HAS been to the White House.
Posted by: kraken at November 20, 2014 12:47 PM (5+mPY)

********

Working title:

We Were All Victims Once-- Wild and Free---Then Came Gruber...

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 20, 2014 12:50 PM (RJMhd)

81 This is not much different from the controversy surrounding Choom Boy and amnesty: "Republicans" being asked why they didn't bite President Historic First's© unit when he stuck it in their mouths.

Answer: "it tasted so good...."

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 20, 2014 12:50 PM (PoKIA)

82 Posted by: Dr. McCoy at November 20, 2014 12:46 PM (/EkKm)
========================

We already have that. Only Congress can pass laws, including anything to do with immigration (which is specifically delegated to Congress in the Constitution). By definition then the President does not have this authority, as he himself has said on at least 23 public occasions.

That isn't the issue. Everyone agrees on illegality (except for the propaganda press maybe). The issue is what to do about it, and he can ignore a court just as easily as Congress.

Posted by: MTF at November 20, 2014 12:50 PM (LISuA)

83 Once bitten. Twice shy.

Posted by: Grandma Lemon at November 20, 2014 12:50 PM (iS51R)

84 Squeeze my Lemon, Sqeeze my Lemon

Posted by: Roberts Plants at November 20, 2014 12:50 PM (6/J77)

85 Take the Lemon Pledge-Use your teeth!

Posted by: wrg500 at November 20, 2014 12:50 PM (sWgE+)

86 why can't yousimply pass a law making it ILLEGAL for the president to
change the citizenship status of any personwithout the specific
authorization of congress.

Ok. Life isn't *really* like the Disney movies. Dogs can't play basketball, not because there's a specific rule against "dogs" playing basketball, but because one of the unspoken assumptions of the rules of basketball is "and all the players will be human."

Similarly, you don't make laws to say "we really mean it." It's already illegal for the president to change the citizenship status of any person without the specific authorization of Congress. Congress controls the laws regarding citizenship.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 20, 2014 12:51 PM (M1uf/)

87
'Cause the president has to sign it to make it law. And the GOP doesn't take over the Senate until January, anyway.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at November 20, 2014 12:49 PM (vgIRn)

And that ignores the fact that Obama doesn't need to give citizenship. He just needs to make them quasi-legalized.

Posted by: HoboJerk, Completely Unreasonable at November 20, 2014 12:51 PM (FA3Z7)

88 Great. Just great.
Try to give a "how to do it" answer when it comes to getting around the national gatekeepers of news and I get willowed by a flippin celebrity thread.
Well, if anyone wants to see it, it's at or near the bottom of the last thread.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at November 20, 2014 12:51 PM (Ze9kt)

89 The exact number of plans needed for Obamacare to reach its target were erroneously included in the total. Amazing. http://ccwc.me/1uXoYR3
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 12:49 PM (ZPrif)

----

So.... Joe Wilson accurately, but pithily, summed up the Obama Administration.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2014 12:51 PM (NaV4z)

90 Hey lady, don't get all wee wee'd up

Posted by: Dons Lemons at November 20, 2014 12:52 PM (6/J77)

91

2500-year-old fortifications found near Israel-Gaza border
Archeologist unearth ancient arms, structure indicating 2,500-year-old fortifications near Israel border community; believed to be part of Persian Empire's war with Alexander the Great.

And unlike the palis, this historical site will be preserved because History is only a prologue to the future. The site was damaged during the recent War with Gaza, which shows only the weapons of war have changed, not the places or concepts.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2014 12:52 PM (M0mf2)

92 85 Take the Lemon Pledge-Use your teeth!
Posted by: wrg500 at November 20, 2014 12:50 PM (sWgE+)

********

Can't--I take my teeth out at night.

Lemon is an AGEIST!!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi--is in the House! at November 20, 2014 12:52 PM (RJMhd)

93 Don, you're making me rethink this whole, "perty mouth" thang.

Posted by: That hillbilly from Deliverance at November 20, 2014 12:52 PM (MNq6o)

94 Sour puss

Lemon head

When life gives you lemons, bite his dick

Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2014 12:52 PM (Z36SR)

95 Before you all get snippy with the feminzis, there is actual, you know, real research that shows it is CLEARLY not possible for MOST people to physically resist a sexual assault.

The human brain does that. It does what it has to do to shut down the reasoning part of the brain, because survival is more instinctually, more crucially necessary at that moment than fighting off the attacker.

I would not go so far as to agree with the feminazis, that asking such questions is as re-traumatizing as the actual assault, but it is an indescribably dickish thing for a tv talk show host to do.

In a fairer world, such things would get one laughed and shamed off tv. But it won't.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 20, 2014 12:53 PM (TOk1P)

96 Dick Biting worked for me!
Posted by: Kathleen Turner as Barbara Rose at November 20, 2014 12:49 PM

Me, too!

Posted by: Whoopi Godlberg as Terry Dolittle at November 20, 2014 12:53 PM (knoK7)

97 I don't mind a little tooth.

Posted by: Barbed Cock of Satan at November 20, 2014 12:53 PM (iS51R)

98 "Telling a survivor of any crime that it could have been avoided is not only disrespectful, it's offensive,"

Yeah, the one thing I've learned reading the local police blotter is never leave your house or your car unlocked.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 20, 2014 12:53 PM (JjJUC)

99 I read it, teej

Post it again here. It would be preferable, IMO, to reading TMI info about people's sexual history in college.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2014 12:53 PM (RZlSA)

100 But this is where it gets weird -- feminists basically claim if a man says "blow me" and the woman does -- she can later claim rape because she can claim she was afraid of violence if she didn't comply.

There's no need to claim of actual violence or even explicit threats of violence -- just a feeling that an implicit threat of violence was in the air.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 12:54 PM (ZPrif)

101 Those women were very foolish.

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky, cum dumpster to the President at November 20, 2014 12:54 PM (7MWCL)

102 It's already illegal for the president to change the
citizenship status of any person without the specific authorization of
Congress.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job

But can we make it Super-Illegal?

And congrats on the new job! That was fast!

Posted by: Dang at November 20, 2014 12:54 PM (MNq6o)

103 Look, Lemon is a pillow biter. He is asking this question from a place of personal experience. Probably based on several complaints he's heard over the years along the lines of "Stop scraping it with your teeth!".

Posted by: NotCoach at November 20, 2014 12:54 PM (rsudF)

104 88 Great. Just great.
Try to give a "how to do it" answer when it comes to getting around the national gatekeepers of news and I get willowed by a flippin celebrity thread.
Well, if anyone wants to see it, it's at or near the bottom of the last thread.
Posted by: teej says go K-State at November 20, 2014 12:51 PM (Ze9kt)
Word. Your plan to save America versus dick- biting - you lose every time with the Horde. Next time, throw in some dicks, or a Kardashian fat ass. Come to think of it, if the Pubbies did that in their speeches, the LIVs might pay attention.

Posted by: kraken at November 20, 2014 12:55 PM (5+mPY)

105 real research that shows it is CLEARLY not possible for MOST people to physically resist a sexual assault.
--
Show me the research. I don't believe that.

And old asian man tried to molest a friend of mine. He ran away.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 12:55 PM (ZPrif)

106 Okay, I have to ask this, because I don't know (I haven't been following the story).

Is Bill Cosby denying any of this?
If so, is there any chance he's *not* the one lying?

That might be an important piece of information.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 20, 2014 12:55 PM (M1uf/)

107 She could have peed on herself and then thrown up, too.

Probably she'd already told him she was on her period, eh?

Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 20, 2014 12:56 PM (ZKzrr)

108 Do we tell boys not to fight back if a bigger boy attacks them? -- after all they will probably lose if the other boy is bigger.

No, kick, punch, run, bite.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 12:56 PM (ZPrif)

109 Why didn't you also lick his butt-hole?

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at November 20, 2014 12:56 PM (MNq6o)

110 Meh. My country is going to shit, I don't care how many floozies Cosby pilled and poked.

Posted by: maddogg at November 20, 2014 12:56 PM (xWW96)

111 Before you all get snippy with the feminzis, there is actual, you know, real research that shows it is CLEARLY not possible for MOST people to physically resist a sexual assault.

The human brain does that. It does what it has to do to shut down the reasoning part of the brain, because survival is more instinctually, more crucially necessary at that moment than fighting off the attacker.

-----

**points**

SEE SEE

**point again**

And all you assholes thought *I* stepped in it......

Posted by: Todd Akin at November 20, 2014 12:56 PM (NaV4z)

112

Such an Imperialistic, Medieval Day.

Off With His Head!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2014 12:56 PM (IXrOn)

113 Isn't throwing a big nasty cat at it the natural progression from foreplay?

Just sayin!

Posted by: Jay in Ames at November 20, 2014 12:56 PM (i2Lsf)

114 Is Bill Cosby denying any of this?

He denied.
... and then he settled in the Civil case, I think.

Posted by: Barbed Cock of Satan at November 20, 2014 12:57 PM (iS51R)

115 13 I didn't know Don Lemon was gay.

Posted by: Pastorius at November 20, 2014 12:37 PM (gMAUH)

2% of the Nation's population, but they manage to account for an outsized portion of the representation in News and Media.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 20, 2014 12:57 PM (txvbW)

116 Cosby's spox has denied the reality star crazy lady's star -- called it a complete lie.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 12:57 PM (ZPrif)

117 "So she's all like, aw no Bill! and I'm like oh, yeah, honey, and then she's like gurkgurkgurkgurkgurkCHOMP! and I'm all like AHHHHHOWWWWWaahhhhowwwwwwEEEE
EEEARRRGGGGHHHHHH!. Heh heh heh!"

Posted by: Bill Cosby! at November 20, 2014 12:57 PM (DLu2s)

118 Probably she'd already told him she was on her period, eh?
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 20, 2014 12:56 PM (ZKzrr)

I heard (in passing, because, busy) that many told him they had VD of some sort, hence the "oral" force.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2014 12:57 PM (IXrOn)

119 Police Massive weapons cache headed for east Jerusalem uncovered among Christmas decorations

Hey since they are so trust worthy, lets give the Palis a State?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2014 12:58 PM (M0mf2)

120 You should have bit his dick. That's what I usually do.

Posted by: Don Lemon at November 20, 2014 12:58 PM (W5DcG)

121 2% of the Nation's population, but they manage to account for an outsized portion of the representation in News and Media.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 20, 2014 12:57 PM (txvbW)
And 90% of the drama.

Posted by: kraken at November 20, 2014 12:58 PM (5+mPY)

122
And old asian man tried to molest a friend of mine. He ran away.

An uncle (now deceased) tried to molest me when I was 12. He got my right foot in the center of his chest. He missed going out the second story window by inches.

Posted by: wrg500 at November 20, 2014 12:58 PM (sWgE+)

123 I feel Willow's pain.

Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2014 12:58 PM (4jDmb)

124 Posted by: Dang at November 20, 2014 12:54 PM (MNq6o)

I guess we could, but it would be silly.

Thanks. I landed on my feet quite nicely.

real research that shows it is CLEARLY not possible for MOST people to physically resist a sexual assault.

--

Show me the research. I don't believe that.

I agree. That sounds... off... to me. For one thing, how would your "non-rational" brain be sure it would survive the assault? Wouldn't the natural reaction be to fight- simply because retreat is not an option and your non-rational brain *is* going to be focused on survival?

Not resisting "to survive" is actually a rational choice- your reason overriding your instincts- in the knowledge (or at least on the assumption) that your attacker is more likely to leave you alive if you don't fight.

Not saying you're incorrect, but I'd really be interested in the research, it's methodologies, etc.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 20, 2014 12:59 PM (M1uf/)

125 Moral of the story - protect your children while you're teaching them to defend themselves. Arm them with good sense and awareness of the dangers of life while they're young - as well as with good aim and skill with "personal protection devices". IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Scoville at November 20, 2014 12:59 PM (0adl+)

126 But can we make it Super-Illegal?

Boehner can strenuously object.

Posted by: Lt. Cdr. JoAnne Galloway at November 20, 2014 12:59 PM (JO9+V)

127 "120
You should have bit his dick. That's what I usually do.

Posted by: Don Lemon at November 20, 2014 12:58 PM (W5DcG)"

Don't we know it...

Posted by: Don Lemon's ex-boyfriends at November 20, 2014 12:59 PM (rsudF)

128 60 Something is lost on me - why can't yousimply pass a law making it ILLEGAL for the president to change the citizenship status of any personwithout the specific authorization of congress. Just directly address any abiguity in how the immigration laws are enforced. Also include in the law criminal prosecution for violation of the law.

Posted by: Dr. McCoy at November 20, 2014 12:46 PM (/EkKm)

You could, but it would require a passage by the house, passage by the Senate, it would then be vetoed by Bumblefuck and then it would have to be revoted on by sufficient margins to over ride a veto.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 20, 2014 12:59 PM (txvbW)

129

My sister did the "I have my period" and "my dad is a cop" after being picked up off the street. They checked, then dumped her out on some country road.

Psychologically scarred.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2014 12:59 PM (IXrOn)

130 I got her to go down on me the first time we hooked up because it was usually easier to get head than to get the whole enchilada and she broke down crying afterwards and told me the story. Really messed her up. And after college she got fat, as rape victims often do.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 20, 2014 12:48 PM (JtwS4)

Is there a valid reason we all needed to know this?

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2014 12:59 PM (hjTr7)

131 I would not go so far as to agree with the feminazis, that asking such
questions is as re-traumatizing as the actual assault, but it is an
indescribably dickish thing for a tv talk show host to do.

Yeah, this.

But as I have often noticed, gay misogyny is its own special breed.

Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 20, 2014 12:59 PM (ZKzrr)

132 55
Well Lemon should know

your mother should know...

Posted by: zombie John Lennon at November 20, 2014 01:00 PM (RiMtm)

133
Hey lady are you a spitter ?

Posted by: Dons Lemons at November 20, 2014 01:00 PM (6/J77)

134 Those sweaters were knitted from the hair of his victims.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 20, 2014 01:00 PM (HEa5q)

135 Is Bill Cosby denying any of this? If so, is there any chance he's *not* the one lying? That might be an important piece of information.

Good point, AllenG.

I preface this by saying I really dislike Cosby on a number of levels. But if he assaulted these women, why did they not go to the police? Why isn't he in prison?

Seems to me the media is getting their rocks off on going after him. Add the loss of income, and I would think the potential for Cosby to file suit runs up into the billions of dollars by now.

Could be I am taking Cosby's side just to see the self-righteous smirk wiped of Brian Williams's face. Or it could just be that I want the guilty punished and the innocent left the fuck alone.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 20, 2014 01:00 PM (PoKIA)

136 Moral of the story - protect your children while you're teaching them to defend themselves. Arm them with good sense and awareness of the dangers of life while they're young - as well as with good aim and skill with "personal protection devices". IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Scoville at November 20, 2014 12:59 PM (0adl+)

I'm still waiting on the Snowcrash form of protection.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2014 01:00 PM (IXrOn)

137 The truth is, she did have options:

1) Could have used a pencil sharpener on it.
2) Could have used a cigar cutter in a guillotine-like fashion.
3) Potato peeler and lemon juice.
4) Could have electrocuted it by pulling the cord out of a lamp.
5) Could have stepped on it with ice skates.

Tons of options. Little ingenuity goes a long way when it comes to forcible sodomy.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 20, 2014 01:00 PM (+lsX1)

138 105

I imagine older assailants are easier to fight off than younger ones. And sober victims have an easier time fighting than victims who have been drugged, as Cosby's accusers claim to have been.

That said, I'm skeptical of the idea that research can claim most people are able or unable to prevent/resist a sexual assault. There are too many variables (age, health, past psychological issues, organic brain issues, environment, sobriety, etc) to make a blanket statement one way or the other. It should be enough to point out the difficulties of resisting without saying whether it's impossible for most or some or whatever.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at November 20, 2014 01:01 PM (3G1tU)

139 ... and then he settled in the Civil case, I think.

Okay... but that's not all that unusual (or wasn't, once). "Hey, look, I didn't do it, but it's easier to give you this money and make you go away than actually spend time fighting it."

And how long ago was this? Where are we vis a vis the statute of limitations?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 20, 2014 01:01 PM (M1uf/)

140
Is Bill Cosby denying any of this?
If so, is there any chance he's *not* the one lying?

Cosby was interviewed on NPR and refused to say anything. The reporter had to supply the visuals, "he's shaking his head no" (not as in denial, as in "I will not utter a word of this").

Janice Dickinson who used to be something wrotea book about her life and all the people she'd had sexual encounters with. She told Howard Stern in 2006 that she had left him out because he's too powerful, and told him this week that she'd been through the same feeling-loopy now he's on me thing.

The power relationship is important. Many of these women were young aspiring actresses and he was a legend. Compromising position (based on trust, "he's going to mentor me"), drugs, forced sex. It's a consistent pattern.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 20, 2014 01:01 PM (JtwS4)

141 63 Wiki: "During an on-air interview with members of Bishop Eddie Long's congregation in September 2010, Lemon said that he was a victim of sexual abuse as a child,"

Shocker.

Posted by: --- at November 20, 2014 12:47 PM (MMC8r)

Another homosexual comes out as a victim of molestation as a child?

I suspect this is true of the vast majority, but surveys of gays who admit it are somewhere around 40%.

40% of homosexuals report they were molested as children according to one study I read in JAMA.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 20, 2014 01:01 PM (txvbW)

142 I have no problem of questioning a person accusing someone of a felony, in order to make sure there really was a crime. But, jeebus, what kind of ingnorant imbecile thinks that a 19 year old, under the influence of substances, in the process of being orally raped, is going to think, "Hey, maybe I can save myself by biting his dick,."?

The guy is a pig.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 20, 2014 01:01 PM (uumvJ)

143 I do want to know how many of the accusers came forward after news of one woman getting a nice settlement leaked out. The timeline's not clear from the news reports.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 01:01 PM (ZPrif)

144 You should have bit his dick. That's what I usually do.
Posted by: Don Lemon at November 20, 2014 12:58 PM

Word.

Posted by: Stanley the Honey Badger at November 20, 2014 01:01 PM (knoK7)

145 He's an idiot. "Why didn't you bite his dick off?"

"Um, because I didn't want a broken jaw while he proceeded to forcibly rape my mouth?"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at November 20, 2014 01:02 PM (4df7R)

146 I think Super-Duper-Illegal would be too much. Way too much. I think Super-Illegal is a nice balance between illegal and No-Fucking-Way-Illegal.

Posted by: Dang at November 20, 2014 01:02 PM (MNq6o)

147 Date rape drugs are largely an urban myth.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 01:02 PM (ZPrif)

148 if the teeth do not bit you must acquit?

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at November 20, 2014 01:03 PM (Wziw3)

149
i live in hollywood and hollywood is skeevy.i have no doubt that these women are not as innocent as they are now portraying themselves. they were young great looking starlets in a city full of young great looking starlets and were using their sex appeal to get a "big break" in the business.i'm not saying what cosby did is right but they knew the game and they were players in it

Posted by: kj at November 20, 2014 01:03 PM (lKyWE)

150 Posted by: nerdygirl at November 20, 2014 01:01 PM (uumvJ)
And don't forget, stupid bastard, as well as a pig.

Posted by: kraken at November 20, 2014 01:03 PM (5+mPY)

151 Bite. Works on cobras.

Posted by: Honey Badger at November 20, 2014 01:04 PM (MNq6o)

152 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/6440589/Date-rape-drink-spiking-an-urban-legend.html

A study of more than 200 students revealed many wrongly blamed the effects of a "bad night out" on date-rape drugs, when they had just drunk excessively.

The study, published in the British Journal of Criminology, found three-quarters of students identified drink spiking as an important risk -- more than alcohol or drugs.
More than half said they knew someone whose drink had been spiked.

But despite popular beliefs, police have found no evidence that rape victims are commonly drugged with such substances, the researchers said.

..

Earlier this year, Australian researchers found that nont one of 97 young men and women admitted to hospital over 19 months to two Perth hospital claiming to have had their drinks spiked, had in fact been drugged.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 01:04 PM (ZPrif)

153 And that ignores the fact that Obama doesn't need to give citizenship. He just needs to make them quasi-legalized.

Posted by: HoboJerk, Completely Unreasonable at November 20, 2014 12:51 PM (FA3Z7)

Like himself. Here is that "natural born citizen" issue coming back to bite us all in the butt once again.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 20, 2014 01:05 PM (txvbW)

154 I think this could restore Cosby's street cred in the black community. They've hated him for a long time as a white sell out. Seems he was keeping it real on the down low. Black man of the year right there.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 20, 2014 01:05 PM (HEa5q)

155 I'm not going to come out and say Bill Cosby's innocent, because I don't know that. I also don't know he's guilty. I do find it odd and incredibly convenient that all of these cases are coming out NOW, and not years ago. Yes, Cosby's very powerful. But he's also been on the hot seat in recent years thanks to his remarks about modern black culture. I would imagine anyone wanting to strike while the iron was hot could have done so then and made a nice, hefty sum.

Again, though, I don't know the truth. But to be totally cliched about this, I do question the timing.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at November 20, 2014 01:05 PM (4df7R)

156 Cosby would have looked funny in court while the procecution passed around pics of his dick with bite indentation on it matching the victim's teeth.

Posted by: maddogg at November 20, 2014 01:05 PM (xWW96)

157 I find a firm squeeze on the balls to be an effective deterrent.

Posted by: Don Lemon at November 20, 2014 01:05 PM (JO9+V)

158 137 The truth is, she did have options:

1) Could have used a pencil sharpener on it.
2) Could have used a cigar cutter in a guillotine-like fashion.
3) Potato peeler and lemon juice.
4) Could have electrocuted it by pulling the cord out of a lamp.
5) Could have stepped on it with ice skates.

Tons of options. Little ingenuity goes a long way when it comes to forcible sodomy.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 20, 2014 01:00 PM (+lsX1)

********

What would Jose Canseco do--that's the question.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi--is in the House! at November 20, 2014 01:05 PM (RJMhd)

159 "What would Jose Canseco do--that's the question.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi--is in the House! at November 20, 2014 01:05 PM (RJMhd)"
Blown his own thumb off while cleaning it?

Posted by: Don Lemon's ex-boyfriends at November 20, 2014 01:07 PM (rsudF)

160 3) Potato peeler and lemon juice.

Oh, that's a good one. Fits in your purse.

Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 20, 2014 01:07 PM (ZKzrr)

161 they were young great looking starlets in a city full of young great looking starlets and were using their sex appeal to get a "big break" in the business.i'm not saying what cosby did is right but they knew the game and they were players in it
Posted by: kj at November 20, 2014 01:03 PM (lKyWE)

Exactly. This is forty year remorse and pent up anger at not getting their "big break" from screwing Cosby. And all the other actors, directors, and studio execs they thought was their ticket.

Remember, this happened during the sixties when free love and the sexual revolution was going on. Aids wasn't an issue yet, the pill was widely available .

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2014 01:07 PM (hjTr7)

162
...because, to the Perpetually Aggrieved Race, the fact that she did not bite hispenis off is proof that she is guilty of lying and shamelessly ruining the reputation of a poor, defenseless black serial rapist....

Posted by: Jen at November 20, 2014 01:07 PM (y67bA)

163 147 Date rape drugs are largely an urban myth.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 01:02 PM (ZPrif)

*********

All right already.

You can mix the punch bowl for Mo Me!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi--is in the House! at November 20, 2014 01:07 PM (RJMhd)

164 Hugh Hewitt, of all people, makes some great points in his column at Townhall. The gist is that Obama is a lawless cheat and everybody knows that. Because of that fact, the illegals will know this is no "solution" to their problem, merely a temporary reprieve, and Congressional Democrats (who might give superficial support in the next few days) are really going to go right away into damage-control mode on these EO's.

Worst of all, from the Democrat perspective, is the future damage GOP Presidents will wreak on favored programs in the Environment, foreign policy, taxes, EEOC, Justice Department overreach, and on and on.

Posted by: MTF at November 20, 2014 01:08 PM (LISuA)

165 What would Jose Canseco do--that's the question.
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi--is in the House! at November 20, 2014 01:05 PM (RJMhd)

1. shoot his own dick off.
2. have it surgically reattached.
3. watch in horror as it falls off during a strip poker game.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at November 20, 2014 01:08 PM (HEa5q)

166 The actual studies I've seen of people who claim to have been drugged -- almost never actually were. They usually just drank too much and took, voluntarily, various drugs to get high, stoned, etc.

Alcohol can interfere with memory formation.

Drink-spiking is a common trope in TV and movies, so people mistakenly think it's a widespread practice. They are wrong.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 01:09 PM (ZPrif)

167 I'm still waiting on the Snowcrash form of protection.

I just use a #15 Bear Trap and a fistful of Lithium Grease.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 20, 2014 01:09 PM (od1df)

168 Cosby was interviewed on NPR and refused to say anything.

You mean like any lawyer will tell you to do, and the Constitution specifically protects your right to do?

The power relationship is important. Many of these women were young
aspiring actresses and he was a legend. Compromising position (based on
trust, "he's going to mentor me"), drugs, forced sex. It's a consistent
pattern.

Sure it is. If it's true.

I admit, part of me will always see Bill Cosby as Dr. Huckstable (or however you spell it), and kind of the goofy but on-point dad. So part of me is emotionally invested in the allegations not being true.

Attempting to separate those out, however, I'm still left with the question, and the grim knowledge that we'll likely never know. Even if he's innocent, any protestations of same will be ignored.

Which, come down to it, is why it is so, *so* important to maintain the complete integrity of rape investigations. When someone is raped, they have to know (on the one hand) that any position of power their assailant has will not protect him (so they'll go to the cops), but the accused have to have similar knowledge that they will get their day in court in a fair trial (to reduce instances of things like the Duke lacrosse team thingy).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 20, 2014 01:09 PM (M1uf/)

169 New one--less dick--more bite.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi--is in the House! at November 20, 2014 01:10 PM (RJMhd)

170 Hey-hey-HEYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEowowow!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Bill Cosby Does Fat Albert Getting His Wang Bitten. Why, Nobody Knows.! at November 20, 2014 01:10 PM (DLu2s)

171 Anytime you give someone something to intentionally knock them unconcious you are playing with manslaughter. That shit is hard to control, thats why people who render people unconcious jprofessionally get years of training. A little too much and you have a dead body. You would have to be a damn idiot to try it.

Posted by: maddogg at November 20, 2014 01:10 PM (xWW96)

172 The power relationship is important. Many of these
women were young aspiring actresses and he was a legend. Compromising
position (based on trust, "he's going to mentor me"), drugs, forced sex.
It's a consistent pattern.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 20, 2014 01:01 PM (JtwS4)

Or maybe: Compromising position (based on trust, "he's going to mentor me" or "I know he will be so astounded at how wonderful our sex was, that I will become his wife or steady mistress, and therefore live in a fine house with lots of bling and not have to work."), and the suggestion of drugs and forced sex is made up after neither of the prior scenarios comes (heh) to fruition.

This whole charade bears a similarity to the "recovered memory" scam of a few decades ago.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2014 01:10 PM (7MWCL)

173 Everybody wang chomp tonight!

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2014 01:11 PM (JO9+V)

174 And old asian man tried to molest a friend of mine. He ran away.

Racist xenophobe!

Posted by: Wun Hung Lo at November 20, 2014 01:11 PM (W5DcG)

175 The date-rape drugs paranoia is a lot like the recovered memory child sex abuse paranoia a while back.

The protected status of the victim means you aren't allowed to doubt their story -- that's "victim-shaming". You have to simply accept their word -- no matter how implausible their story.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 01:12 PM (ZPrif)

176 .i'm not saying what cosby did is right but they knew the game and they were players in it

Posted by: kj at November 20, 2014 01:03 PM (lKyWE)

I'm thinking they are still playing the game, they just have a better hand right now.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 20, 2014 01:12 PM (txvbW)

177 I do find it really creepy that the album he did the 'Spanish Fly' routine on was called 'It's True! It's True!'

Posted by: --- at November 20, 2014 01:12 PM (MMC8r)

178 Why am I not surprised that Don was never very popular with the ladies?

Posted by: Fritz at November 20, 2014 01:12 PM (UzPAd)

179 I agree with the feminists?

It appears as if I need to step back from the computer.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 20, 2014 01:12 PM (xSCb6)

180 Drink-spiking is a common trope in TV and movies, so people mistakenly think it's a widespread practice. They are wrong.

True. But it *does* happen, and it costs nothing to acknowledge that.

Not widespread != never happens. Obviously.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 20, 2014 01:12 PM (M1uf/)

181 Drink-spiking is a common trope in TV and movies, so people mistakenly think it's a widespread practice. They are wrong.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 01:09 PM (ZPrif)

Kind of like how murderers are caught in an hour with magic CSI techniques or houses are completely remodeled and decorated in three days.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2014 01:12 PM (hjTr7)

182 Anytime you give someone something to intentionally knock them unconcious you are playing with manslaughter. That shit is hard to control, thats why people who render people unconcious jprofessionally get years of training. A little too much and you have a dead body. You would have to be a damn idiot to try it.

Now you tell me.

Posted by: Wacko Jacko's Quack Doctor at November 20, 2014 01:13 PM (JO9+V)

183 How these people will suffer when we return to truly
dark times. The sensitivity police are killing resilience. Life ain't
fuckin' fair, and if we ever get to the point where we're worried about
food, water, shelter, basic security, the people who indulge in this
leftist cult of offendedness and treat victimhood as the trump card of
celebrity are going to be dog food really, really fast. The skill
singlehandedly most important to success and survival is resilience, and
we're conditioning out of our people.

Posted by: 0302 at November 20, 2014 12:43 PM (N6eLE)

Quite so. If there is any consolation to the coming of the "burning times", it is that the "feminist left" will be among the first to die, and most unpleasantly. And since they helped so much to bring about the burning times, there is a certain justice in that...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud--SMOD is inbound at November 20, 2014 01:14 PM (l1Nun)

184 Anytime you give someone something to intentionally knock them unconcious you are playing with manslaughter.
--

But apparently Cosby is chemistry whiz kid, who can get the dosage exactly right for a dozen women of varying weights. One OD and his whole super-predator lifestyle game is up, right?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 01:14 PM (ZPrif)

185 Cosby won't comment

His rep says the claims are old

He has settled some cases filed in civil court

Crazy reality show lady has been telling this version of events since 2006

She says she didn't put it in her book cause she "couldn't afford it". Which I assumed meant that she was afraid he would sue her

Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2014 01:14 PM (Z36SR)

186 Kind of like how murderers are caught in an hour with magic CSI techniques

I have a friend whose wife is a real-life CSI type. She said (early days of CSI, I haven't asked recently) that all the stuff they do in CSI could really be done- that their science was more-or-less on point. She then went on to say, "But no one does that, because no one has $10,000,000 to investigate every robbery in the city."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 20, 2014 01:15 PM (M1uf/)

187 I do find it really creepy that the album he did the 'Spanish Fly' routine on was called 'It's True! It's True!'
--
Spanish Fly doesn't work -- it was the type of thing sold in the back of magazines alongside x-ray specs. It was a common trope growing up.

In related damning news, Tone-Loc admitted to using Funky Cold Medina.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 01:16 PM (ZPrif)

188 (Reuters) - The Department of Homeland Security will grant temporary protected status to people from the three West African countries most affected by Ebola who are currently residing in the United States, department officials said on Thursday.

Posted by: wrg500 at November 20, 2014 01:16 PM (sWgE+)

189 Just one more thing. Janice Dickinson said they went back to HER room and that her last memory was of Cosby dropping HIS patchwork robe.

So what was HIS (expensive? custom made? ) robe doing in HER room?

Posted by: Count de Monet as Columbo at November 20, 2014 01:17 PM (JO9+V)

190 He has settled some cases filed in civil court
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2014 01:14 PM (Z36SR)

How do you settle a date rape case in civil court?

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2014 01:18 PM (hjTr7)

191 Posted by: wrg500 at November 20, 2014 01:16 PM (sWgE+)

"Currently residing in the United States" presumably means people already here, not people looking to get in. So what, exactly, does "temporary protected status" mean?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 20, 2014 01:18 PM (M1uf/)

192 184

Except his accusers aren't painting him as getting it *exactly* right. They're saying they were awake during some if the time he seems to have wanted them to not be awake, and remember things he'd rather they didn't. So if their claims are true (A big if), he would've erred on the side of bit killing anyone, but not gotten the dosage exactly right.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at November 20, 2014 01:18 PM (3G1tU)

193 No such claims are valid until Gloria Allred makes them!

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 20, 2014 01:18 PM (PoKIA)

194 The date-rape drugs paranoia is a lot like the recovered memory child sex abuse paranoia a while back.

Posted by: Costanza Defense

I repressed a memory of Bill Cosby raping a giraffe on The Gong Show.

Posted by: Dang at November 20, 2014 01:19 PM (MNq6o)

195 She also says he handed her a pill which she took. Maybe she thought it was something else. Dumb. But the drug thing has been consistent with several of these women

Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2014 01:19 PM (Z36SR)

196
People from Liberia, Guinea, and Sierra Leone in the United States as of Thursday may apply for protection from deportation, as well as for work permits, for 18 months, said a Department of Homeland Security official.
After 18 months, the Secretary of Homeland Security will assess whether the protection should be extended, based on the level of the Ebola epidemic in West Africa.

Posted by: wrg500 at November 20, 2014 01:20 PM (sWgE+)

197 Argh. Erred on the side of NOT killing anyone

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at November 20, 2014 01:20 PM (3G1tU)

198 How do you settle a date rape case in civil court?
Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2014 01:18 PM (hjTr7)

The victim/accuser agrees not to "press charges" in criminal court (and not cooperate with any brought by the State), and instead "sues" for something like mental anguish or somesuch. Then takes a the settlement.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 20, 2014 01:20 PM (M1uf/)

199 I did not know he was gay.

Guess that means that instead of being a regular H8r for thinking he's a schmuck, I'm now a double-H8r for still thinking he's a schmuck

Posted by: The DoubleplusH8 Hat at November 20, 2014 01:21 PM (lN8KC)

200 Could have been the went to her room and then walked to his room. People who really have been roofied walk, talk,move and don't remember it

Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2014 01:22 PM (Z36SR)

201 But the drug thing has been consistent with several of these women
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But that's not much evidence since these people read about these stories in the media and can just repeat the same rough story they read -- and since most people who claimed to have been drugged turn out not to be since it's mostly a myth.

Need more info on the timeline. If these women all made the same allegation without hearing of any similar previous allegation, that would be much stronger evidence.

The Janice crazy-lady story -- yeah, her story is similar to the story she read in the newspaper the day before she went public.

Cosby spox has officially denied the Janice crazy-lady story.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 01:22 PM (ZPrif)

202 How do you settle a date rape case in civil court?
Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2014 01:18 PM (hjTr7)

The victim/accuser agrees not to "press charges" in criminal court (and not cooperate with any brought by the State), and instead "sues" for something like mental anguish or somesuch. Then takes a the settlement.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 20, 2014 01:20 PM (M1uf/)

Thanks for the explanation. I guess the smart thing would be to include a clause in which they cannot discuss or reveal their settlement. Which works until it doesn't.....

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2014 01:23 PM (hjTr7)

203 A common tactic by a rapist' defense was to hold up an empty ink bottle and then have some else try to stick their quill in it.

This of course was nigh on impossible (except for luck) to do and thus was rape assumed to be as difficult if the woman didn't want to be penetrated.

I've always thought that had merit except that men are bigger, there's usually always a threat of some kind involved and in some cases the victim is incapacitated. So no that doesn't really stand up to any scrutiny.

Neither does puking or spitting or wriggling around like a eel pass muster as a defense.

And I'm not inclined to accept every charge of rape by every female that makes one. Especially if the target is rich/well known or the relationship was questionable from either side.

Women use the weapons they have and one of them is a charge of rape. That doesn't mean every charge of rape is false it just means they deserve examination and not blanket acceptance.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 20, 2014 01:23 PM (KK+mC)

204 People who really have been roofied walk, talk,move and don't remember it
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And for every one of those, about a million people just drank too much and walked, talked, moved and didn't remember it.

The "roofie" angle of these stories makes them much less likely to be true, not more likely.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 20, 2014 01:24 PM (ZPrif)

205 Maybe they are all copying each other. Don't know. But there are 16 of them. Some have been talking about being assaulted by him for decades and not believed. So for them, they didn't just pile on now. And Dickenson has been telling people this since 2006

Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2014 01:24 PM (Z36SR)

206 Hey look! A spotlight! *runs to stand in spotlight and collect her prize*

Posted by: Janice crazy-lady at November 20, 2014 01:25 PM (MNq6o)

207
206Hey look! A spotlight! *runs to stand in spotlight and collect her prize*

Get out of my way bitch!

Posted by: Chuck Schumer at November 20, 2014 01:26 PM (sWgE+)

208 I'm sure drugs in the Hollywood party set are, and certainly have been, very common. And that a lot of the girls who travel in that set weren't strangers to it. They may not have thought twice when offered something.

Which, of course, is not saying whether the story is true or not.

Posted by: --- at November 20, 2014 01:27 PM (MMC8r)

209 i saw Date Rape open for Suppressed Memory on the Warped Tour, but i don't remember where, because that night's memories are kinda fuzzy.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 20, 2014 01:27 PM (vIjYi)

210 Janice Dickenson told the same story on the Howard Stern show in 2006. Not right before tho latest accuser

And the latest accuser has been talking about this for decades and was not believed

It only came to a head now because a comic was using a bit on how everybody in the industry knows Cosby is a rapist

Notice how none of his costars, who he made very rich, have come to his defense

Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2014 01:27 PM (Z36SR)

211

Notice how none of his costars, who he made very rich, have come to his defense

It's always been a puzzle why Lisa Bonet, whom he made rich and famous, was bitter about her Cosby experience.

I have a new hunch.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 20, 2014 01:29 PM (JtwS4)

212 I believe it.

What I think is interesting timing wise is how it has completely buried the story and the documentary about powerful homosexual child predators in Hollywood right now

That story has died

Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2014 01:30 PM (Z36SR)

213 Notice how none of his costars, who he made very rich, have come to his defense

I've seen quotes from Stacy Dash and Keshia Knight-Pulliam that were on the innocence side.

Posted by: --- at November 20, 2014 01:30 PM (MMC8r)

214 Did someone say spotlight???

Posted by: Dick Blumenthal at November 20, 2014 01:31 PM (5UYtO)

215 "Notice how none of his costars, who he made very rich, have come to his defense"

well, who in their right mind, other than the very brave or very foolish, would willing expose themselves to the latest SJW human wave attack?

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 20, 2014 01:32 PM (vIjYi)

216 174 And old asian man tried to molest a friend of mine. He ran away.

Racist xenophobe!

More of a raceist xenophobe, apparently.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 20, 2014 01:37 PM (sGtp+)

217
Also, this isn't a new story that someone decided to hype for immediate benefit.

Comic Hannibal Burress did a routine about Cosby always lecturing black comics on working clean and using the N word.

Burress said "google Bill Cosby Rape and you'll get more results than for Hannibal Burress"

...and the whole world said "wut?!"

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 20, 2014 01:38 PM (JtwS4)

218
Cosby settled a civil suit by Andrea Constand in 2006. Thirteen other women were deposed and were supporting witnesses for her case.
Lachele Covington filed a police report after an alleged 2000 sexual assault by Cosby in Manhattan.
Barbara Bowman, who wrote the Op Ed article in the Washington Post, has been saying for almost thirty years that she was drugged and raped by Cosby.
Oh, and Robert Culp helped Bill Cosby get the co-starring role with him in the "I Spy" series. Later in life, when Culp's career was in decline, he asked Cosby for help. Cosby refused to help.
Karma sucks....

Posted by: Jen at November 20, 2014 01:39 PM (Mv/2X)

219 Notice how none of his costars, who he made very rich, have come to his defense

It's always been a puzzle why Lisa Bonet, whom he made rich and famous, was bitter about her Cosby experience.

I have a new hunch.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 20, 2014 01:29 PM (JtwS4)

It's pretty hard to take crazy Lisa Bonet at face value regarding anything she says. She has changed her name, been through several boyfriends and a baby daddy since Lenny Kravitz, starred in a soft porn film and posed semi nude in magazines.

Yes, she was pure as the wind driven snow, and it's all Cosby's fault.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2014 01:39 PM (hjTr7)

220 It was worse than dumb or weird. Look at the way he framed the question:

You know, there are ways not to perform oral sex if you don't want to do it

Oh, there are ? Have you personally experienced this ? Been under threat to perform and employed this tactic - to successful ends - to avoid it ??! No ? Gosh, then maybe you ought to STFU.

Feminists may suck uner 99% of circumstances, but not this one. You simply don't ask victims of rape if there was anything they could have done to prevent it. Seriously. What other crime exists where this question is asked ? Oh, you were robbed ? Did you try and tell the armed robber to fuck off ? I mean, there are ways to avoid being robbed.

Jesus.

Posted by: deadrody at November 20, 2014 01:46 PM (W15tP)

221 @220 - Yay! Well said! Somedude asking this woman why she didn't defend herself better is ridiculous. Has he ever been a 5'3" woman, drugged and assaulted by a 6' male? I guess she should have bitten his dick- and hoped that he didn't completely lose it and beat her to death. Women do not deal with assault by a male in the same way that men deal with an assault by a male! Strange how that works....

Posted by: Jen at November 20, 2014 01:52 PM (WGcw3)

222 184 But apparently Cosby is chemistry whiz kid, who can get the dosage exactly right for a dozen women of varying weights. One OD and his whole super-predator lifestyle game is up, right?

Depends on how well he disposes of the body.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 20, 2014 02:16 PM (sGtp+)

223
NOT THE TEETH! NOT THE TEETH!

I've had to say that to women who actually liked me (try not to faint) who volunteered to give me a hummer. No, honey, scraping my peen with your teeth isn't in the least bit sexy.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at November 20, 2014 02:48 PM (1hM1d)

224
222 184 But apparently Cosby is chemistry whiz kid, who can get the dosage exactly right for a dozen women of varying weights. One OD and his whole super-predator lifestyle game is up, right?

Depends on how well he disposes of the body.

Craig James on line 1. CJK5H http://preview.tinyurl.com/75kjve6

But that's only alleged...

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at November 20, 2014 02:54 PM (1hM1d)

225 practice?

Posted by: pahound13 at November 20, 2014 05:01 PM (4T0z6)

226 In this particular context, automatically she is a survivor, not an accuser. But it's crazy to believe Juanita Broaddrick.

In this particular context, this sort of language is totally crass. But Clinton apologists thought it was fine to say in public that they were happy to put on their "knee pads" for him.

Posted by: Sarah Rolph at November 20, 2014 05:03 PM (lh+kV)

227 Sung to the tune of "King of Pain" by the Police

There's a bloody dick lying in the Narnian snow
How did it get here does Tumnus know?
The table was broken by the lion's rise
Now the winter is crimsoned as the tissue dies...

I've stood on the border of another world
Each nipple at attention just like Milton Berle
And the story's so weird that now I crave escape
But it's my destiny to hear these tales of rape...

There's a Lemon on TV saying teeth should gnash
There's an ad bot on twitter trying to make that cash
People are saying Cosby dopes for gash
The world's a wolfman short of a monster mash...

Posted by: cackfinger at November 21, 2014 03:17 AM (53TqR)

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