Recommendation: <i>The Easy Way to Stop Smoking</i>

Recommendation: The Easy Way to Stop Smoking

So day 10 or something of the Flu That Won't Leave.

I'm hopeful that tomorrow I'll be mostly recovered. Today I feel like crap, as usual, but the two main symptoms -- a crippling migraine headache (with photophobia) and a hacking cough that goes on for five minutes and makes internal organs ache -- are mostly abated. Now I'm left with headache and coughing, but not so bad they're worth complaining about. Plus general flu symptoms.

I'm really annoyed because I started doing all these healthy things, and stopping doing a bunch of unhealthy ones, and so I was all ready to start Feeling Awesome when I caught this flu.

Speaking of that, I picked up a book a couple of weeks ago called The Easy Way to Stop Smoking, by Alan Carr.

I had quit smoking a while ago, going on to the e-cig, but I remained addicted to nicotine, and in fact could not imagine really ever going off nicotine.

Someone recommended this Easy Way book to me and I read it because I didn't have anything else going on.

It's actually pretty darn good, as this reconsideration of the book acknowledges.

I don't read many -- any -- Self-Help books so maybe this book had a bunch of tricks to play on me for which I had no defenses. Maybe I'm an easy score, given that I'm unfamiliar with self-help books' techniques generally.

And maybe I found it easy to quit smoking this time because I was especially motivated.

Basically I was feeling like crap every single day of my life and decided that I would not go on like that any longer -- it was time for some changes.

But even so, I think the book is pretty good. It's very repetitive, but in that repetition, it drills into you an important message:

You don't need to smoke. You didn't "need" to smoke before you started smoking. And you don't even really like smoking, do you? Think about it: Do you really like feeling hot smoke moving through your sinuses and lungs? Do you really like that feeling nicotine dependency gives you, of constantly being in mild drug withdrawal, with those withdraw symptoms only really absent from your life for the duration of the cigarette you're currently smoking? (The withdrawal symptoms, the craving, begins anew about 10 minutes after you finish your cigarette, and become urgent 45 minutes to an hour afterwards.)

The book addresses the psychological roots of nicotine addiction. The actual biological hook of nicotine addiction isn't really all that powerful, compared to truly addicting drugs like heroin, coke, or alcohol. No, it's really the psychological story that you the addict are telling yourself about the cigarette, and why you need it so much, and why smoking that next cigarette will make you Feel Good and why you Deserve That Cigarette, after all.

Reading the book, I eventually became not just convinced of the need to break the nicotine dependency, but actually enthusiastic about doing so. Just like Carr said I would.

It's now been about a month since I kicked smoking. I did not follow Carr's advice completely -- I didn't go cold turkey as he insists, but instead used the patch, nicorette gum, and an e-cig as nicotine replacement therapy to get me off actual cigarettes.

And I'm still not completely off nicotine, but I'm almost all the way off of it. I'm not on the patch anymore, I don't use the e-cig anymore, and I chew one or two pieces of Step 2 nicorette when I really have the urge per day. (Some days, being sick, I've forgotten to have any nicotine at all.)

But a month on and I'm not smoking and only having one or two mild doses of nicotine per day, if that. So, I'm not quite free of nicotine yet, but I'm not really addicted anymore, either.

I'd really recommend the book. I don't know what it is about it.

I guess that most of what it says is obvious, if you bothered to think about it,, but as an addict, you are deliberately avoiding thinking about the basis of your addiction, so it's helpful to have someone else state the obvious to your face.

The book, by the way, stays away from the scary stuff about smoking, almost entirely. There are no pictures of diseased lungs or gums or that sort of thing. The author's notion is that making someone nervous immediately makes them reach for a cigarette so discussing the dire health effects of smoking is actually counterproductive.

Instead he sticks to a softer approach -- won't you be happier when you don't have to to worry about only having three cigarettes left?

Obvious stuff, but I found it helpful. If you're still smoking, or you know a smoker, I'd spend the $7 to $10 for the book.

Posted by: Ace at 05:30 PM

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1 Photophobia: is that why there's never any pictures of you on website. And somewhere in the general vicinity of first.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 19, 2014 05:32 PM (Xmw9g)

2 Can you use the pages for a roll your own? Like that Cheech and chong album?

Posted by: tinfoil baby at November 19, 2014 05:32 PM (hqVUe)

3 ace, get a sleep study done and push for a CPAP machine.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at November 19, 2014 05:32 PM (XzRw1)

4 Have the corgis been summoned?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 19, 2014 05:33 PM (V+kmg)

5 Ace has the pink eye?

Posted by: dantesed at November 19, 2014 05:33 PM (88xKn)

6 ace, get a sleep study done and push for a CPAP machine. Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at November 19, 2014 05:32 PM (XzRw1)

THIS

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 19, 2014 05:33 PM (V+kmg)

7 I like nicotine

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 05:34 PM (R5V4T)

8 Got anything on the easy way to stop sniffing glue?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 19, 2014 05:34 PM (XUKZU)

9 Ace, good luck and godspeed in your efforts to kick that pernicious vice. I've never smoked a cigarette and have no intention to do so.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 19, 2014 05:34 PM (oq1KH)

10 You'll be back.

Posted by: Johnny Smoke at November 19, 2014 05:34 PM (evdj2)

11 Yes. Corgis have been summoned.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 05:34 PM (R5V4T)

12 Yeah I read that too years ago.

The book says it's not about willpower and the proceeds to explain that quitting involves willpower.

It just does. I wrote a review online and people were all, "You're wrong!"

I'm not though. It is willpower. It's just getting your mind into a place to use that willpower to quit.

Carr died of lung cancer, but he died cigarette free if I remember correctly.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 19, 2014 05:34 PM (oFCZn)

13 Good for you, Ace! Hope you'll feel the positive effects once you get over the flu that would not leave.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2014 05:35 PM (ABcz/)

14 The country is going to shit and you want me to quit smoking? You may as well ask me to stop drinking.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at November 19, 2014 05:35 PM (hqVUe)

15 Got anything on the easy way to stop smoking crack?

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 19, 2014 05:35 PM (sDapq)

16 If anything legal should be made schedule 1, it's tobacco, for all the reasons Ace mentioned.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 19, 2014 05:35 PM (oq1KH)

17 Ace, I have an unsolicited suggestion. Just use the nicotine lozenges. I do, and they absolutely work. The damned gum gave me TMJ, because chomping.

Posted by: kraken at November 19, 2014 05:35 PM (5+mPY)

18 Congratulations!

Once the flu is completely over and you've gone another month without smoking, you're going to feel better than you have since you were a kid.

Also, keep hydrating. A lot. Consistently.

Posted by: seems legit at November 19, 2014 05:35 PM (A98Xu)

19
Ace,
10 days of flu symptoms are not normal. Some people (forget the percentage) of smokers who either completely go off of nicotine or cut down drastically get what is called the "smokers flu". Is this something that you have considered to be why you have been feeling so lousy?
The migraines, coughing, etc. are key indicators.

Posted by: cheri at November 19, 2014 05:36 PM (oiNtH)

20 7 I like nicotine
Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 05:34 PM (R5V4T)
I love nicotine too. I found a way to keep myself from going on a killing spree, and not get cancer.

Posted by: kraken at November 19, 2014 05:37 PM (5+mPY)

21 I started smoking when I was about 14, quit when I turned 21, and started again when I was 30. Why start again? I thought it would make me look more mature.

Posted by: Buddha at November 19, 2014 05:37 PM (3CczE)

22 MUMR muttering to himself down below is a strange strange thing. Writing in water.

Posted by: toby928(C) at November 19, 2014 05:38 PM (evdj2)

23 I've never smoked. For one thing, no one in my family does, so I never had a role model.

But the real thing that ade it easy not to start is the fact that people try LONG AND HARD to stop. Why would I start doing something that so many people try to quit and can't?

Posted by: --- at November 19, 2014 05:38 PM (MMC8r)

24 Stop calling it a migraine. Call it a meeeeeegraine, like the brits do.

Posted by: Baaaa! means no! at November 19, 2014 05:38 PM (iQIUe)

25 I quit smoking by taking up dipping snuff. Still dip snuff after 30 years and I'm told it will give me face cancer or something. But I know many people who have died from lung cancer (including my Mother) and I don't know anyone who has died of face cancer.

Posted by: maddogg at November 19, 2014 05:38 PM (xWW96)

26 BBeing sick used to make my nicotine cravings subside temporarily. The operative word here is 'temporarily'. Good luck with that after you get well. Let us know.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 19, 2014 05:39 PM (NeFrd)

27 I guess I picked the administration to stop shooting heroin.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 19, 2014 05:39 PM (XUKZU)

28 I love nicotine too. I found a way to keep myself from going on a killing spree, and not get cancer.

Amen.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 05:39 PM (tyv/s)

29 Too bad there's not an easy way to kick government dependency.

Posted by: Buddha at November 19, 2014 05:39 PM (3CczE)

30 It will be YEARS before you are truly off nicotine/cigs... and even then you may still never truly be off. This is coming from someone who quit cold turkey in February 1998.

Posted by: ep at November 19, 2014 05:39 PM (bSWzX)

31 Quitting smoking is actually pretty easy. I've done it a dozen times.

Posted by: Buddha at November 19, 2014 05:40 PM (3CczE)

32 I'm not though. It is willpower. It's just getting your mind into a place to use that willpower to quit.

---

I believe that about how you eat (having the willpower to say no to this or that) drinking and working out.

Posted by: seems legit at November 19, 2014 05:40 PM (A98Xu)

33 Screw that, Ace.

Those mild withdrawal symptoms keep you on edge and able to write with your usual aplomb.

Without it you will be writing about cute puppies, criticizing Disney movies and posting paint-by-numbers landscapes you did while on the can.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:40 PM (Zu3d9)

34 For the people that are considering smoking cessation, keep your old tobacco products. They will come in handy for barter during the end times.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at November 19, 2014 05:40 PM (XzRw1)

35 Quitting smoking is easy. I've done it hundreds of times.

Posted by: Samuel Clemons at November 19, 2014 05:40 PM (V70Uh)

36 If you stopped drinking coffee suddenly--you could be having some symptoms from that.

But a month on and I'm not smoking and only having one or two mild doses of nicotine per day, if that. So, I'm not quite free of nicotine yet, but I'm not really addicted anymore, either.

So good.

Have a friend quit smoking because they were grossed out by the color of the crap they would cough up when they got sick.

Also once they stopped smoking--they stopped getting colds as frequently.

That hand to mouth stuff...

Arby's is full of germs.

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 19, 2014 05:40 PM (RJMhd)

37 Without it you will be writing about cute puppies, criticizing Disney movies and posting paint-by-numbers landscapes you did while on the can.Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:40 PM (Zu3d9) He'll turn into bicycle boy?

Posted by: maddogg at November 19, 2014 05:41 PM (xWW96)

38 I quit smoking about 5 or 6 years ago. I was smoking 3 or 4 packs a day when had my heart attack. Went cold turkey. Sweated it out every day. Each time I started yearning for a cigarette I would say to myself "I can make it until tomorrow". I eventually got over it. But one thing I read a while ago is that you never really get over it. And that is true. I sometimes will be sitting here reading a book and all of a sudden get an urge for a cigarette.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2014 05:41 PM (u9gzs)

39 I believe that about how you eat (having the
willpower to say no to this or that) drinking and
working out.

Drinking and working out were easy.
Hangovers hurt more.
Jim Fixx

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 05:42 PM (tyv/s)

40 Posted by: maddogg at November 19, 2014 05:38 PM (xWW96

I advise you not to google it.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at November 19, 2014 05:42 PM (yshTX)

41 and I don't know anyone who has died of face cancer.
Posted by: maddogg

That's because they're faceless.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2014 05:42 PM (+GmxD)

42 Most people don't need self help books, their problems are obvious even to them.

I don't listen to Prager's happiness hour either. I'm already too damn happy.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 19, 2014 05:42 PM (WNERA)

43 Maybe you should keep a food diary.

Maybe something triggers the migraines?

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 19, 2014 05:43 PM (RJMhd)

44 Light 'em if you got 'em..., oh, wait.....
that's not very supportive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2014 05:43 PM (F2IAQ)

45 I tried in earnest 6 or 7 times to stop smoking. The device that enabled me to keep it long term was to double each period of non-smoking. I went a day without smoking, so go two days. Went two days, go four. Went four, make it a week, and so on until I forgot entirely.

And look at me now, I've got more will power than the president of the United States! Fucker!

Posted by: Still miss those American spirit at November 19, 2014 05:43 PM (e0JlW)

46 Cold Turkey Baby. I have been off the Cancer Sticks for going on 5 years. SO what if I gained 20 pounds..... I now just have to summon the will to start an excersize regimen.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 05:43 PM (32Ze2)

47 Lifelong battles. I wonder what St. Paul battled.

Posted by: seems legit at November 19, 2014 05:43 PM (A98Xu)

48 Buproprion is a fucking miracle drug for quitting smoking.

Posted by: daninmichigan at November 19, 2014 05:43 PM (2yD4G)

49 I sometimes will be sitting here reading a book and all of a sudden get an urge for a cigarette.

Posted by: Vic at November 19, 2014 05:41 PM (u9gzs)

My dad tells me he still gets the occasional urge for a cigarette.

He quit in 1967

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:43 PM (Zu3d9)

50
Quitting smoking is easy. I've done it hundreds of times.

OR . . . move to the Massatushits town that banned tobacco.

QED

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:44 PM (CMkNk)

51 I smoked one cigarette in my life, when I was about 10 years old, and my older sister and some of her neighborhood friends basically forced/pressured me.

It was horrible -- absolutely horrible.

I never took another puff, and never had the slightest urge.

You know how some people have "addictive personalities" and always tend to get addicted to stuff? Well, I think I have "non-addictive personality" - -I seem incapable of becoming addicted to (or even being tempted by) addictive things.

It is, actually quite liberating.

Posted by: zombie at November 19, 2014 05:44 PM (K4YiS)

52 As Doctor/hospital averse as I am, and even *I* would have gone by this point.

You're a maniac ace.

Posted by: Winston Wolf at November 19, 2014 05:44 PM (xSCb6)

53 PS -- don't smoke.

Posted by: zombie at November 19, 2014 05:44 PM (K4YiS)

54 46
Cold Turkey Baby. I have been off the Cancer Sticks for going on 5
years. SO what if I gained 20 pounds..... I now just have to summon the
will to start an excersize regimen.

Extra body fat will become invaluable during the end times.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at November 19, 2014 05:44 PM (XzRw1)

55 Today I feel like crap, as usual, but the two main symptoms -- a
crippling migraine headache (with photophobia) and a hacking cough that
goes on for five minutes and makes internal organs ache -- are mostly
abated.

So, Ebola then.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2014 05:44 PM (4nR9/)

56 The best way to celebrate quitting smoking is to celebrate with a cigarette.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 19, 2014 05:45 PM (oFCZn)

57 Cigars killed my Uncle Joe
We knew one day they'd get him.
He bent over on the street to pick one up
And a bus went by and hit him.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 19, 2014 05:45 PM (NeFrd)

58 Glad to hear about the smoking cessation, Ace; sorry the flu is hanging on.

I think - as with all things - when you are READY to stop doing something, you find a way to do it.

Hope you get to feeling better real soon!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at November 19, 2014 05:45 PM (PZ6/M)

59 Science comes up with an answer to dirty smoke and the progressives are all over banning that too in a heartbeat. Fh8ck them. Vape on.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at November 19, 2014 05:45 PM (hqVUe)

60 I quit cold turkey when I bought my new cars. No joke, my last one was going to work in That Damn Pontiac for the very last time...and the fucking car died on me as I pulled into my parking spot (again, no joke, threw a timing belt).

I hated that fucking car. It was the wife's car.

Of course, having her die of lung cancer was another motivating factor.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 19, 2014 05:45 PM (6fyGz)

61
Quit after being an on-again-off-again smoker for about 10 years in August of '91. Aside from a brief flirtation with cigars in '97, I haven't had a fag since,

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:45 PM (CMkNk)

62 my Grandmother died of throat cancer. Never drank or touched tobacco in her life.

Posted by: maddogg at November 19, 2014 05:45 PM (xWW96)

63 Ace, you sure it's not pertussis? Whooping cough vaccine is no good after you hit age 40 or so. I had it in my 40s and it sucked. And you don't make a "whoop" noise when you cough. Coughing fits almost me to pass out. First 2 weeks were the worst.

Posted by: Dang at November 19, 2014 05:45 PM (MNq6o)

64 My dad quit cold turkey back in the early 60s. He was smoking two packs of unfiltered Lucky Strikes a day, and his family doctor (also a close family friend) told him while in the doctor's office, "Quit smoking right now, or get yourself another doctor."(and crushed the pack of cigs that were in my dad's pocket). My older brothers and sisters helped by finding and throwing out the cigs, and tainting certain hidden ones with drops of perfume. Within a month or so he was over it, and hadn't smoked since (he lived to the ripe old age of 87).

My father-in-law, though, used the Rx anti-depressant drug Zyban (a drug which has the side effect of also diminishing or removing your cravings for nicotine, and reduced withdrawal symptoms). He quit five and a half years ago, but he had already come down with emphysema and had his second heart attack at that point. He's currently in a nursing facility with end-stage COPD at age 70.

So, if you have a difficult time kicking the nicotine cravings, ask your doc about Zyban.

Posted by: Trubador at November 19, 2014 05:46 PM (MlrAE)

65 Can someone recommend a Self Help Book to get me to stop reading Self Help Books?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 05:46 PM (32Ze2)

66 Without it you will be writing about cute puppies, criticizing Disney movies and posting paint-by-numbers landscapes you did while on the can.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:40 PM (Zu3d9)

*********

Ace would probably be healthier doing that.

I swear we are not wired for the Information Age overload.

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 19, 2014 05:46 PM (RJMhd)

67 I haven't had a fag since,

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:45 PM (CMkNk)

Well, except for that one time during the Halloween parade, but that doesn't count.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:46 PM (Zu3d9)

68 65 Can someone recommend a Self Help Book to get me to stop reading Self Help Books?
Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 05:46 PM (32Ze2)

The Idiot's Guide to Idiot's Guides.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:46 PM (CMkNk)

69 Science comes up with an answer to dirty smoke and the progressives are all over banning that too in a heartbeat.

Fh8ck them. Vape on.

Ooh-rah!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 05:47 PM (tyv/s)

70
Smoker's Flu or Quitter's Flu symptoms:
Symptoms of nicotine withdrawal can include:
InsomniaFatigueInability to concentrateHeadacheCoughSore throatConstipation, gas, stomach painDry mouthSore tongue and/or gumsPostnasal dripTightness in the chest Also known as smoker's flu, it is important to note that quitter's flu is not a real sickness; it refers only to physical sensations we experience while detoxing from nicotine and the chemicals in tobacco that can mimic illness.

Posted by: cheri at November 19, 2014 05:47 PM (oiNtH)

71 I smoked for ten years, and dipped snuff for 30 + years. I haven't used any tabacco in 5 years........ Having said that if SMOD was detected I'd buy a whole sleeve of Copenhagen and chew every can. Good luck Ace, I know you can do it get well and feel better

Posted by: NativeNH at November 19, 2014 05:47 PM (tWf5Y)

72 67 Well, except for that one time during the Halloween parade, but that doesn't count.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:46 PM (Zu3d9)

That reminds me, tell your mom I left you under her bed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:47 PM (CMkNk)

73 Feel better, Ace.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at November 19, 2014 05:47 PM (KuU4f)

74 47 Lifelong battles. I wonder what St. Paul battled.
Posted by: seems legit at November 19, 2014 05:43 PM (A98Xu)

One theory is epilepsy... since it was not understood back then...

Posted by: MikeH at November 19, 2014 05:47 PM (NfnJU)

75 Sounds like

<a href="http://www.achoice2live.com/every-hurt-is-a-heal-the-quitters-flu//">Quitter's Flu</a> to me!

Posted by: Beorn at November 19, 2014 05:47 PM (dGF4J)

76 I quit years ago because they kept adding a $1 pack tax almost every year & only smoked at home & couldn't stand smell in my house even though I would spray Lysol & other air fresheners.
Anytime I wanted one I'd go to neighbor that smokes outside & get whiff of horrible smell.

Posted by: Carol at November 19, 2014 05:48 PM (sj3Ax)

77 36
If you stopped drinking coffee suddenly--you could be having some symptoms from that.

Hey now, let's not get crazy. I'd have a serious problem with giving up coffee.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2014 05:48 PM (4nR9/)

78 I smoked for ~25 years, started as a young teen, tried quitting a million times, like everybody else.

Eventually, I found nicotine lozenges, and ate them like candy to keep the nicotine cravings at bay without inhaling the bad stuff (no e-cigs in those days). That 90-day chart they give you with the lozenges? F that, I sucked on those things for years. Cost about the same as cigarettes, ironically enough (100% sure THAT'S no coincidence).

But I wasn't smoking.

Eventually I started interspersing sugar-free mints with the nicotine lozenges. Then for a few years I was off the nicotine lozenges, but a habitual consumer of sugar-free mints. For years. Ordered them by the carton, had a subscription order with Amazon. No joke.

But I wasn't consuming nicotine.

Now I'm off the mints, too (except on long bike rides, I keep 'em in the tank bag, just something to suck on for hours of riding when I'm trying to burn miles and not stop for food).

Today, maybe once or twice a year I have a very fleeting urge for a cigarette, nothing I feel anything close to needing to oblige. In a few minutes it passes.

And it only took me, huh, about a decade. :-)

--Andrew, @LawSelfDefense

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at November 19, 2014 05:48 PM (ajYyi)

79
Seriously, Ace. It sounds like you have pneumonia. What did the doctor say, or did you go?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:48 PM (CMkNk)

80 69 Science comes up with an answer to dirty smoke and the progressives are all over banning that too in a heartbeat.

Fh8ck them. Vape on.

----

Amen

I don't understand their push back on it. Control freaks.

Posted by: seems legit at November 19, 2014 05:48 PM (A98Xu)

81 3 ace, get a sleep study done and push for a CPAP machine.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at November 19, 2014 05:32 PM (XzRw1)

yep, changed my sleep. It's amazing how much better you feel with a good night's sleep

Posted by: MikeH at November 19, 2014 05:48 PM (DNTer)

82 Good job Ace.

Posted by: BuckIV at November 19, 2014 05:48 PM (CLfqv)

83 I never smoked so quitting was easy.
I have had the flu so bad I was praying for death. Looking back it is hard to understand. TMI good thing the house had multiple bathrooms.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 19, 2014 05:49 PM (WNERA)

84 I currenlty have a cough. Started a week ago. I thought I caught it from ace. It's annoying as hell.

Posted by: Baaaa! means no! at November 19, 2014 05:49 PM (iQIUe)

85 I've had caffeine withdrawal several times. It does suck and you do feel like hell, but it only lasts a couple of days.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 19, 2014 05:49 PM (oFCZn)

86 Ooops, forgot about the stinky Wolf sock

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 19, 2014 05:49 PM (xSCb6)

87
Hey, CBD.

I keed!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:49 PM (CMkNk)

88 I drink a couple of pots of joe a day. But I could quit it if I wanted. Or like if it became completely unavailable.....

Posted by: maddogg at November 19, 2014 05:49 PM (xWW96)

89 I donn't understand the dead Honduran beauty queen story

It says they found their bodies; what about the rest of them?

Posted by: Joe Biden ( your Veep ) at November 19, 2014 05:49 PM (8CdUx)

90 So, Ebola then.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2014 05:44 PM (4nR9/)

Ebola will become invaluable during the end times.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 19, 2014 05:49 PM (sDapq)

91 Maybe I'm an easy score,

*********

Somebody...^ work this.

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 19, 2014 05:49 PM (RJMhd)

92 81 Posted by: MikeH at November 19, 2014 05:48 PM (DNTer)

America and the GOP need a CPAC machine. Fat lot of good it'll do.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:50 PM (CMkNk)

93 So, if you have a difficult time kicking the nicotine cravings, ask your doc about Zyban.

Just ignore the homicidal urges. (side effect of Zyban)

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 05:50 PM (tyv/s)

94 Hey dummies, don't listen to this guy and get back to smoking if you really love your country.

Posted by: Jon Gruber at November 19, 2014 05:50 PM (3a584)

95 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:49 PM (CMkNk)

I know. Relax. I have a thick skin.

[you fucking kike]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:50 PM (Zu3d9)

96 >>Can someone recommend a Self Help Book to get me to stop reading Self Help Books?

Just watch Oprah. No one can maintain that level of navel-gazing for very long.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2014 05:50 PM (ABcz/)

97 Corgis?

http://tinyurl.com/lpgnvdp

Posted by: The Hobo's Sex And Candy Stare Decicis at November 19, 2014 05:51 PM (XeGAx)

98 At some point you reach max caffeine as a stimulus and then it actually has a depressant effect.

I think,...I could be full of shit.

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 19, 2014 05:51 PM (RJMhd)

99 Ace, congrats on quitting smoking! Of the possible AOS Lifestyle choices I'd say that smoking is not a pleasant vice. Of course I'm biased because I lost my awesome father to lung cancer, which was likely linked to 30+ years of smoking Salems. In a couple of decades when I'm in the old moron's home, I'd like to still be reading your stuff, of course accompanied by Valu-Rite vodka or better yet good Kentucky Bourbon.

Posted by: TxDan at November 19, 2014 05:51 PM (GoAPH)

100 Slight thread jack. I was watching Teen Titans on Cartoon Network with my girlfriends son and I just watched an overall anti-boy/pro-girl episode. Shit was absolutely over the top with it. It wasn't the fun boys rule/girls rule fight that happens it was total girl domination until the end. When Robin basically emoted like some blubbering vagina about how amazing girls are and we should thank them every day for noticing us boys.

War on boys is real.

Posted by: thathalfrican at November 19, 2014 05:52 PM (R5HRU)

101 "Can someone recommend a Self Help Book to get me to stop reading Self Help Books?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 05:46 PM (32Ze2)"

There is always "Lost in the Cosmos: The Last Self-Help Book you will ever need" by Walker Percy.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 19, 2014 05:52 PM (V70Uh)

102 I could be full of shit.

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 19, 2014 05:51 PM (RJMhd)

Naah....it just makes you sick. And wired off your gourd. And sick.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:52 PM (Zu3d9)

103 CPAP saved my life. Doc that did the sleep study looked at my results and told me that I probably hadn't slept in years. If you haven't already done so (ace), you need to go and get this done before OVomitcare fucks everything up.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 05:52 PM (32Ze2)

104 98
At some point you reach max caffeine as a stimulus and then it actually has a depressant effect.

Thattttais so.........n/o/t// truEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2014 05:52 PM (4nR9/)

105 On my 5th week of e-cigs. I've stepped down from 18mg, to 16 mg, to 14 mg. Really noticed it for a few days each time but it passes every time.

What I noticed about week 3 is I no longer crave nicotine first thing in the morning. For the first time in 25 years. Also, I no longer cough shit up.

Tried an actual cigarette, an ultra light, over the weekend and couldn't finish it. I think because I'm used to the always consistently rich and mellow faux tobacco flavor or one of the sweet alternate flavors I used to scoff at. Currently Sweet Tarts is my alternate. The cigarette tasted like actual asphalt to me.

I plan to continue reducing the nicotine dosage until I'm just vaping flavor. Which, I guess a lot of people do.

Wish I would have tried this when Ace first posted about vaping.

Get well, man. Had that junk last year and it lasted a month.

Posted by: Rex Harrisons Hat at November 19, 2014 05:52 PM (rSKUI)

106 There are real risks in going without coffee if you are used to drinking it regularly... caffeine withdrawal is real and for some folks, not wise to abruptly stop cold-turkey.. check webmd or teh google.. .lots of good info on it.

Posted by: Yip at November 19, 2014 05:52 PM (84SRe)

107 [you fucking kike]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:50 PM (Zu3d9)
*************
UNCIVIL WAR!!! JOO FIGHT!

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 05:53 PM (32Ze2)

108 Me & the kiddo had that exact same sickness
for two weeks in October... it just lingers forever.

Violent coughing with a horrific sinus headache.
We lived on narcotic cough syrup for four days.

Posted by: honeybunny at November 19, 2014 05:53 PM (yrXQK)

109 I don't understand their push back on it. Control freaks.
Posted by: seems legit

It pains them to see people enjoying their lives when their own, hollow shell of an existence is so empty and meaningless, that they are only happy when they are fucking over everyone else.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 05:53 PM (tyv/s)

110 95 I know. Relax. I have a thick skin.

[you fucking kike]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:50 PM (Zu3d9)

No problem, you matza-slinging heeb momzer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:54 PM (CMkNk)

111 I quit years ago because they kept adding a $1 pack
tax almost every year only smoked at home couldn't stand
smell in my house even though I would spray Lysol other air
fresheners.

Anytime I wanted one I'd go to neighbor that smokes outside get whiff of horrible smell.

Posted by: Carol at November 19, 2014 05:48 PM (sj3Ax)

Those Febreeze air fresheners with the two-scent refills work wonders on that cigarette smell.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 19, 2014 05:54 PM (6fyGz)

112 I'm addicted to love

Posted by: Robert Palmer at November 19, 2014 05:54 PM (8CdUx)

113 111 Those Febreeze air fresheners with the two-scent refills work wonders on that cigarette smell.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 19, 2014 05:54 PM (6fyGz)

Febreeze was Michael Corleone's Sicilian bodyguard.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:55 PM (CMkNk)

114 Remember when Ace gave up the fapping to internet porn?

Good times, good times.

Posted by: --- at November 19, 2014 05:55 PM (MMC8r)

115 I'm a fan of vaping teh herb. Gots me a Volcano, I do.

Posted by: mugiwara at November 19, 2014 05:55 PM (3a584)

116 Get yourself a girlfriend, Ace. And a dog.

Posted by: Baaaa! means no! at November 19, 2014 05:55 PM (iQIUe)

117 Why are we getting rid of all our vices? Since Obamacare doesn't want to pay for shit after we turn 75, shouldn't we be living it up until then?

I enjoy the stories of people who turn 100, with decent mental capacity who say they drank and smoked every day of their lives. Probably screwed a lot too.

Posted by: seems legit at November 19, 2014 05:55 PM (A98Xu)

118 I notice the announcement coincides with the Ferguson grand jury outcome (well according to drudge).

Posted by: bestie21 at November 19, 2014 05:55 PM (IPRGk)

119 Eh, guys don't live all that long in my family.

I'll quit when I feel like it. Or not.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2014 05:55 PM (g1DWB)

120 I'm addicted to love

Posted by: Robert Palmer at November 19, 2014 05:54 PM (8CdUx)
**********
Might as well face it....

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 05:55 PM (32Ze2)

121 JOO FIGHT!

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 05:53 PM (32Ze2)

Heh....

Just had a long conversation about young Jews in America and their apparent inability to beat the crap out of anti-Semites on college campuses. They whine and complain, but because mommy and daddy taught them that fighting is wrong......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:56 PM (Zu3d9)

122 112 I'm addicted to love

Posted by: Robert Palmer at November 19, 2014 05:54 PM (8CdUx)

Might as well face it, your adic . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:56 PM (CMkNk)

123 Hey Ace, maybe you need your tonsils lopped out.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 19, 2014 05:56 PM (NeFrd)

124 My old Grand-Daddy Smith let me smoke and chew at age 12. He told my Mama (who won't pleased) it would make me sick and I would stop. I did stop smoking cigarettes at age 33, but took up Skoal and Copenhagen at age 45. Well it finally made me sick at age 56. Throat cancer. Been cancer-free for 9 years (after being near kilt with chemo and radiation). My advice? Quit all forms of nicotine. If you have never smoked or chewed, don't start. It ain't sexy and neither is cancer. No sir.

Posted by: Erowmero at November 19, 2014 05:56 PM (go5uR)

125 Seriously, Ace, when are you going to give us grandchildren???

Posted by: Baaaa! means no! at November 19, 2014 05:56 PM (iQIUe)

126 102 I could be full of shit.

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 19, 2014 05:51 PM (RJMhd)

Naah....it just makes you sick. And wired off your gourd. And sick.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:52 PM (Zu3d9)

*********

It's the one thing I can't seem to kick.

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 19, 2014 05:56 PM (RJMhd)

127 I plan to continue reducing the nicotine dosage until I'm just vaping flavor. Which, I guess a lot of people do.

Diebetics do. They can get their "chocolate" fix without messing with their blood sugar levels.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 05:56 PM (tyv/s)

128 123 Hey Ace, maybe you need your tonsils lopped out.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 19, 2014 05:56 PM (NeFrd)

"Can we have your liver, then?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:56 PM (CMkNk)

129 Get yourself a girlfriend, Ace. And a dog.

Posted by: Baaaa! means no! at November 19, 2014 05:55 PM (iQIUe)

Pro tip: THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THINGS!!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:57 PM (Zu3d9)

130
Going on 4 years in January after I quit chewy tobbaccy cold turkey. That first 2 weeks was a killer, but I think it was just that I decided it was time.

Weirdly, another huge craving at about 4 months.

Anyway, saved me a bunch of cash as a side benefit.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2014 05:57 PM (1nB6R)

131 I really do hope you feel better soon Ace.

As a former smoker and long time nicotine user (patches, gums, lozegens) Im happy that you quit, good for you

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2014 05:57 PM (b6ukh)

132 caffeine withdrawal is real and for some folks, not wise to abruptly stop cold-turkey.

Wean it down. The muscle aches are a bitch.

Posted by: --- at November 19, 2014 05:57 PM (MMC8r)

133 Ace, I found that I usually didn't want to smoke till I was mostly in " the bag" I quit cigs in the Marines, but have always enjoyed cigars ( I inhaled them) So decided to give the v2 Cig a try . It is expensive 80 bucks BUT man does it produce alot of vapor. Now when I am enjoying a few beers just go to the v2 , I got the juice nicotine free, never bothered me. I guess I was on the ritual side of smokin, haha Anyway this isn't an advert for that company but I just wanted to let You know.

Posted by: marine43 at November 19, 2014 05:58 PM (byyvr)

134 My dad smoked on average four packs a day. He'd have a pall of smoke in the living room which bottomed out at around four feet. I've seen poker rooms with less smoke than that guy could generate.

To this day the smell of cigarette smoke not only makes me ill but brings up unpleasant memories.

Needless to say, I never picked up the habit.

Glad you're quitting ace; I know how hard it can be. It beat my dad.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 19, 2014 05:58 PM (xSCb6)

135 Way to go, Ace. I've been quit for about a year and two months. It was the second time I'd quit, and the previous time lasted about a year.

Smoking is often a chemical stress-busting crutch, for those of us who have a hard time (or are actively prohibited by company policy from) venting frustration. One can argue that it causes more stress by making you crave cigarettes and need to run out for a break, but my previous job was like a Chinese water torture of stress and suck, and cigarettes were the only thing that made it go away for even a few minutes.

There's a lot of argument over the best way to quit, but the best way to stay quit is to find out what stresses you, and cut it out of your life as much as you can. I started smoking again after my first quit, after I went back to that crappy job after a stint of independent contracting, for a lack of local options.

I quit again when I decided to move and left that job for the last time, and my new life in Texas is so much less stressful that I haven't had more than a momentary craving since.

Posted by: Cato at November 19, 2014 05:58 PM (3HxZe)

136 I enjoy the stories of people who turn 100, with decent mental capacity who say they drank and smoked every day of their lives. Probably screwed a lot too.

George Burns comes to mind. Smoked cigars died at 100. Wasn't privy to the screwing but with his money.....

Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 19, 2014 05:58 PM (WNERA)

137 One alternative to a CPAP machine is for some of you guys to try dropping a few dozen pounds. If your neck is too fat to allow you to breathe normally, renting a machine to push the air down your hog-like gullet seems like a superficial fix to your nighttime wheezing and gagging problems.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 19, 2014 05:58 PM (+lsX1)

138
Might as well face it, your adic . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:56 PM (CMkNk)

no reason to get personal, you old-man-smelling New York City hebe

( insert smiley face emoticon here ) high five..........

Posted by: Robert Palmer at November 19, 2014 05:58 PM (8CdUx)

139 114 Remember when Ace gave up the fapping to internet porn?

Good times, good times.
Posted by: --- at November 19, 2014 05:55 PM (MMC8r)

********

Speaking of maxing out...

I swear I also read that--you need kinkier and kinkier until you're rendered Bob Dole status.

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 19, 2014 05:58 PM (RJMhd)

140
For Ace and all you addicts out there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0DD2zGT2Tg

Hint: Zep.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:59 PM (CMkNk)

141 16 If anything legal should be made schedule 1, it's tobacco, for all the reasons Ace mentioned.
Posted SF Goth

And not have all that tax money and straw man citizen to pick on?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2014 05:59 PM (b6ukh)

142 114
Remember when Ace gave up the fapping to internet porn?

Good times, good times.

Posted by: --- at November 19, 2014 05:55 PM (MMC8r)

Way to kick a guy when he's flaccid.

Posted by: flounder at November 19, 2014 05:59 PM (sDapq)

143 OT: Are there plans for another NoVa MoMee? Saw mention in the last thread and don't want to miss.

Posted by: AnthonyB at November 19, 2014 05:59 PM (1Z1yu)

144
Levin is about to explode.

"This is gonna be GREAT!!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 05:59 PM (CMkNk)

145 The most ironic thing about my four-pack-day-dad was that he was a respiratory therapist by profession.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 19, 2014 05:59 PM (xSCb6)

146 Oh the one I bought was the v2 pro. It has an adapter for um .. Herbs and such....Gotta pay extra though.

Posted by: marine43 at November 19, 2014 06:00 PM (byyvr)

147 The house we bought belonged to a heavy smoker.

The wallpaper in the bedrooms had light spots on the wallpaper where the pictures had been hanging, with the yellow haze all around.

Posted by: --- at November 19, 2014 06:00 PM (MMC8r)

148 If your neck is too fat to allow you to breathe normally, renting a machine to push the air down your hog-like gullet seems like a superficial fix to your nighttime wheezing and gagging problems.

---

Hilarious but true.

Posted by: seems legit at November 19, 2014 06:00 PM (A98Xu)

149 Get well soon Ace! I quit smoking... twice. First time, I got to thinking I could handle the occasional smoke. Not me. I'm a nicotine junkie. Others aren't. Second time I quit was about thirty years ago. Never smoked another and never think about them. Quitting was one of the best things I ever did.

I used to get bronchitis when I got a cold or the flu. Never had bronchitis since I quit smoking, Wonderful!

I learned the cold turkey method from an Adventist outreach program. Felt crappy for two days, poorly for one, meh for another, then fine. No nicotine dependency after five days. YMMV, but it works for a lot of folks.

Think of all the tax dollars you were providing the state! Do yourself a favor and screw the state at the same time! Stay off the butts.

Posted by: doug at November 19, 2014 06:00 PM (yOA5a)

150 Eventually smokers get sick of being treated like a Pariah too. I know that I kept it on the down low when I did, because I knew just how stupid it was. One of the many reasons that I chose to quit...... that and smokes went to over $7 a pack.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 06:00 PM (32Ze2)

151 143 OT: Are there plans for another NoVa MoMee? Saw mention in the last thread and don't want to miss.
Posted by: AnthonyB at November 19, 2014 05:59 PM (1Z1yu)

NGU mentioned some of us NY/NJ/CT people coming down.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 06:01 PM (CMkNk)

152 137 One alternative to a CPAP machine is for some of you guys to try dropping a few dozen pounds. If your neck is too fat to allow you to breathe normally, renting a machine to push the air down your hog-like gullet seems like a superficial fix to your nighttime wheezing and gagging problems.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 19, 2014 05:58 PM (+lsX1)

They also make a nightguard style dental appliance for people who will rip that fucking CPAP mask off the first chance Mr. Subconscious takes over sleepy time.

Posted by: The Hobo's Sex And Candy Stare Decicis at November 19, 2014 06:01 PM (XeGAx)

153 NGU mentioned some of us NY/NJ/CT people coming down.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 06:01 PM (CMkNk)
************
I'm in..... When?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 06:02 PM (32Ze2)

154
Sex. Sex cures everything. Except the ebola.

Posted by: Baaaa! means no! at November 19, 2014 06:02 PM (iQIUe)

155 145 The most ironic thing about my four-pack-day-dad was that he was a respiratory therapist by profession.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 19, 2014 05:59 PM (xSCb6)

Had a great doctor who could diagnose you just by looking at you. Not a pill pusher and a great guy. Chain smoker and 3 weeks after he retired, he went into the hospital and never left. Emphysema.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 06:02 PM (CMkNk)

156 132 caffeine withdrawal is real and for some folks, not wise to abruptly stop cold-turkey.

Wean it down. The muscle aches are a bitch.
Posted by: --- at November 19, 2014 05

Headaches for me, almost as bad as Aces

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2014 06:02 PM (b6ukh)

157
Get yourself a girlfriend, Ace. And a dog.
Posted by: Baaaa! means no!

Pro tip: THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THINGS!!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Au contraire.

Posted by: Sen Thad "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" Cochran

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 19, 2014 06:03 PM (kdS6q)

158 Congrats Ace. For me it's been a hard three and a half months since I strangled a hooker. One day at a time, man.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 19, 2014 06:03 PM (Tjwvt)

159 I always say that boys are like potato chips. Because you can't stop at just one.

Posted by: Harry Reid at November 19, 2014 06:03 PM (sH832)

160 153 NGU mentioned some of us NY/NJ/CT people coming down.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 06:01 PM (CMkNk)
************
I'm in..... When?
Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 06:02 PM (32Ze2)

Up to the NoVa folks. I think we just mentioned coming down if we could make it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 06:03 PM (CMkNk)

161 GGE,
I hate smell of smoke & that's why when I wanted one I would go next door & it was August or September & guy that lives down the street would just happen to walk by & would kill any craving I had.

Posted by: Carol at November 19, 2014 06:03 PM (sj3Ax)

162 Pro tip: THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THINGS!!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 05:57 PM (Zu3d9)

____________________

Yeah, ones loyal and the other is not.

Posted by: Baaaa! means no! at November 19, 2014 06:03 PM (iQIUe)

163 Congratulations, ace!

I am so pleased to hear this.

My mom died of brain cancer (that had originated from smoking-related lung cancer). I recall at the wake some of my older, distant relatives who smoked being so nervous and anxious. They wanted to quit, but mostly because they were afraid, I think. And I felt as if they would leave my mom's wake being too paralyzed with fear to quit. So I tried my best to say to them that they should think of quitting as a thing they would be doing for themselves, not a thing that they would be denying themselves.

Same mindset works for dieting in my experience. It is harder to be motivated to diet because you feel badly about your body than it is to do it as a step toward something positive (that sexy new dress you want to wear or whatever). Still hard, of course, but somehow it helps me a bit to frame it that way.

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2014 06:03 PM (9BRsg)

164 When I quit smoking, I just told everyone in my office, "Don't let me go to Marge and ask for a cigarette. Don't let me sneak one in the bathroom. I am a helpless child and need you to help me stop." And they did. "Go back to your office!" And it worked.

I must tell you that once I quit, and friends have told me the same thing, that the nicotine withdrawal changes and your allergies get worse, maybe because your pH changes, so that could be the source of your flu. So maybe the vape or the patch is a good idea...I'm considering it.

All in all though it was worth it. Congratulations!

Posted by: PJ at November 19, 2014 06:04 PM (cHuNI)

165 Remember that Dick Van Dyke movie where the town quits smoking and everyone deals with it differently.

Dick's character has sex every time he wants a cig.

Fun movie.

Posted by: seems legit at November 19, 2014 06:04 PM (A98Xu)

166 Dick Van Dyke does NOT have a penis..... He is asexual, and always will be.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 06:05 PM (32Ze2)

167 "Had a great doctor who could diagnose you just by looking at you. Not a
pill pusher and a great guy. Chain smoker and 3 weeks after he
retired, he went into the hospital and never left. Emphysema."

Yeah, I didn't mention that my chain-smoking, respiratory therapist dad also watched his father die a horrible death due to emphysema. My dad committed suicide at 50, so it's not like his brain was properly-wired in the self-preservation department.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 19, 2014 06:05 PM (xSCb6)

168 I always knew Ace was a closet photophobe.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 19, 2014 06:06 PM (L2xDv)

169 Remember that Dick Van Dyke movie where the town quits smoking and everyone deals with it differently. Cold Turkey?

Posted by: tinfoil baby at November 19, 2014 06:06 PM (hqVUe)

170 I stopped smoking, chewing, and drinking 2 pots of coffee a day about
1-1/2 years ago. I got tired of the daily rollercoaster/routine that
75% of the people I know were riding. The best part is waking up in
the morning semi-refreshed without gagging, choking, hacking, and
jonesing for that first blow and cup of the day.

I can't say that
I've quit forever, but I'm enjoying the different perspective. Wanting
the shit and needing the shit are two different things.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2014 06:07 PM (dVmLD)

171 NGU mentioned some of us NY/NJ/CT people coming down.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 06:01 PM (CMkNk)

It's organized by Sean Bannion, and he is a notorious anti-Semite....and a Papist. And he invites the Irish.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 06:07 PM (Zu3d9)

172 I always admire the doctors in China who do rounds with a cig dangling from their mouths and ashes falling into open wounds.

Posted by: Baaaa! means no! at November 19, 2014 06:07 PM (iQIUe)

173 Dick Van Dyke does NOT have a penis.....
He is asexual, and always will be.

Maybe. But Laura was hittable.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 06:07 PM (tyv/s)

174 I just smoke cigars. Definitely not addicted to nicotine. Last time I puffed on one was Fourth of July, and don't know when I will next.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 19, 2014 06:07 PM (z/Ubi)

175 25 I quit smoking by taking up dipping snuff. Still dip snuff after 30 years and I'm told it will give me face cancer or something. But I know many people who have died from lung cancer (including my Mother) and I don't know anyone who has died of face cancer.
Posted by: maddogg at November 19, 2014 05:38 PM (xWW96)

It's not death, it's surviving face, mouth and tongue cancer that should stop you

Posted by: Sunny at November 19, 2014 06:08 PM (6anZz)

176 Yes, that's it, Cold Turkey.

Posted by: seems legit at November 19, 2014 06:08 PM (A98Xu)

177 And he invites the Irish.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 06:07 PM (Zu3d9)
*********
THE IRISH? I'm out...

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 06:08 PM (32Ze2)

178 166 Dick Van Dyke does NOT have a penis..... He is asexual, and always will be.
Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at November 19, 2014 06:05 PM (32Ze2)

With Mary Tyler Moore in the house? He'd grow a penis if he didn't have one...

Posted by: MikeH at November 19, 2014 06:09 PM (DNTer)

179 Stupid Irish.

Posted by: seems legit at November 19, 2014 06:09 PM (A98Xu)

180 But Laura was hittable.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 06:07 PM (tyv/s)

Those tight sweaters? Yeah.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 06:10 PM (Zu3d9)

181 A lot of people have trouble with the CPAC mask. I didn't. I just picked it op from the floor every morning and turned the machine off.

Posted by: AnthonyB at November 19, 2014 06:10 PM (1Z1yu)

182 http://tinyurl.com/ombodxs

Posted by: bestie21 at November 19, 2014 06:10 PM (IPRGk)

183 my dad was a 3 pack a day man from 16 to 42.....the "cough your head off" commercial would scare my brother & i to tears so we begged him to quick......that lent, he gave up ciggs and never ever had another....he burned his pipes & through out all his cigars.....he told me shortly before he died at the age of 70 that there was not a day that went by that he did not crave tobacco....not one day....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 107 days until spring training at November 19, 2014 06:11 PM (u8GsB)

184 renting a machine to push the air down your hog-like gullet seems like a superficial fix to your nighttime wheezing and gagging problems.

-
I couldn't understand all the technical jargon.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 19, 2014 06:11 PM (XUKZU)

185 I'll offer my unsolicited and unqualified medical advice again -- a gram or two of lysine seems to both fix the headaches and get rid of the flu faster for most people. Best of luck!

Posted by: TallDave at November 19, 2014 06:11 PM (/HtWy)

186 My wife who never smoked used to grouse at me to quit. Then one day I was coaching my toddler-age daughter about how to cross the street safely. So she looks up and drops the big one - Daddy then how come you smoke?

That was 30 years ago and I haven't had a smoke since. I tear up just thinking about it - the kid saved her daddy's life.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at November 19, 2014 06:11 PM (0zL2P)

187 Those tight sweaters? Yeah..... And the capri pants, Stilettos weren't in then, but if they were....

Posted by: tinfoil baby at November 19, 2014 06:11 PM (hqVUe)

188 Do you really like feeling hot smoke moving through your sinuses and lungs?

As an occasional smoker, I can say that yes, yes I do like the feeling & taste. Especially when I'm drinking whiskey or cognac. But then, I'm a 2 or 3 cigarettes a year & a few cigars kind of smoker.

Posted by: Bumpersticker Notary Sojac at November 19, 2014 06:12 PM (MbqmP)

189 Congratulations Ace! I'm glad your gynecologist convinced you to read the book.

Posted by: FDR's Television at November 19, 2014 06:12 PM (ne2fm)

190 Speaking of maxing out...

I swear I also read that--you need kinkier and kinkier until you're rendered Bob Dole status.

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 19, 2014 05:58 PM (RJMhd)

Bob Dole Porn.

That there IS kinky!

Carry on, Friendly Danube River Guide.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 19, 2014 06:12 PM (Tjwvt)

191 OT: Are there plans for another NoVa MoMee? Saw mention in the last thread and don't want to miss.

Posted by: AnthonyB at November 19, 2014 05:59 PM (1Z1yu)

Every summer if it runs true to form. And relax, the Irish he invites is just Cochran, not those other types.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 19, 2014 06:12 PM (6fyGz)

192 I was a "social smoker" during my Science days, mostly b/c the scientists who were the most fun with the Europeans (I denounce myself) and THEY tended to smoke. Never got even psychologically addicted. I didn't want all of my shit to stink of cigarette smoke, for one thing, so I never smoked at home. Just at conferences.

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2014 06:12 PM (9BRsg)

193 I've only ever smoked a few times. I'm not one of those people who's disgusted by cigarettes though. I find them delightful. That's why I stay far, far away. That and the fact we'd get assraped by our life insurance policy if my husband or I took up smoking.

Posted by: Lauren at November 19, 2014 06:12 PM (BPMYx)

194 181 A lot of people have trouble with the CPAC mask. I didn't. I just picked it op from the floor every morning and turned the machine off.
Posted by: AnthonyB at November 19, 2014 06:10 PM (1Z1yu)

I just pretend I'm Lloyd Bridges in "Sea Hunt" and off to sleep I go...

Posted by: MikeH at November 19, 2014 06:13 PM (DNTer)

195 I think Levin has a few fags burning at the same time today.

Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at November 19, 2014 06:13 PM (XzRw1)

196 Five years ago I completely lost my appetite for Iced coffee for no reason. I used to get iced Venti Americano w/extra shot of espresso every day after lunch even if I didn't have lunch until 5 or 6.
I got one as usual & couldn't drink it.
I make two pots of coffee a week & have room temperature coffee this time of year & put ice in it during the summer.
I probably have half a glass now.

Posted by: Carol at November 19, 2014 06:13 PM (sj3Ax)

197 For some, smoking is only a habit and it's easy for these folks to quit--although they still may start again years later. For others, it's an addiction and it's difficult to quit. What's insidious about cigarettes is that it's hard to limit yourself to three or four cigarettes a day. I doubt that many would really wreck your health. But it's hard to maintain . It would be cool to have a cigarette every now and then without becoming a regular smoker....

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2014 06:13 PM (8HGb7)

198 I confess that occasionally I crave a clove cigarette when I'm feeling stressed or restless.

Finding one in Utah would probably be a trip and a half! lol

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2014 06:13 PM (9BRsg)

199 burnt holes in your car upholstery, burnt holes in your clothes that smell like crap. Your fingers smell nasty. You must always know where your next pack is coming from, must always have cash for it, but always have your lighter.

You habitually reach for your pocket whenever you sit certain places. You have to go outside as an outcast.

Gone.

Just gone. Poof.

That part of you dies. Your grieve. Then realize you're grieving for a terrible friend.

You realize you no longer care to commit suicide in slow motion. That you are not invincible as you imagined when you took up the habit. And you realize not smoking is a hell of a lot easier than smoking ever was.

The fun is gone.

There is no point in being transgressive anymore.

People still smoke?

That kills me. It does. When that part of you dies you imagine it died for the whole world, not just for you. And it actually surprises you when you see people still do smoke.

It sounds like a very good book.

Posted by: bour3 at November 19, 2014 06:13 PM (5x3+2)

200 Remember that Dick Van Dyke movie where the town quits smoking and everyone deals with it differently. Cold Turkey?

-
the hardcore libertarian society got to wear armbands and insure that nobody smoked.
Bob Newhart was the harried tobacco executive. that was a funny move.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 19, 2014 06:13 PM (XUKZU)

201
If you stopped drinking coffee suddenly--you could be having some symptoms from that.

I think this is the part where I turn red and scream for you to SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 19, 2014 06:14 PM (TIIx5)

202 So Ace caught Ebola virus from undercooked hobo meat?

Posted by: Death Is Not The Worst Of Evils at November 19, 2014 06:14 PM (nbGZj)

203 I have Levin on, this may send him to the hospital. Cough cough.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at November 19, 2014 06:15 PM (hqVUe)

204
I think this is the part where I turn red and scream for you to SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 19, 2014 06:14 PM (TIIx5)

*********

LOL!

Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 19, 2014 06:16 PM (RJMhd)

205 Sean; I will help if you are organizing another NoVA MoMee. You should have my email.

Posted by: AnthonyB at November 19, 2014 06:16 PM (1Z1yu)

206 "Finding one in Utah would probably be a trip and a half! lol "

I think they banned them everywhere a few years back. Fell under the "no flavored cigarettes" rule because, the children.

Posted by: Lauren at November 19, 2014 06:16 PM (BPMYx)

207 George Burns comes to mind. Smoked cigars died at 100. Wasn't privy to the screwing but with his money.....

Posted by: Bob from table9

Let's just say he aged well.

Posted by: Gracie Allen at November 19, 2014 06:17 PM (4nR9/)

208 Remember it was the indian's gift to the white man. And he took it home and said, this is good.

Of course advertising in the 50s would explain how good it was for you.

I don't care a smidgen if people want to smoke just don't smoke where Im eating.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 19, 2014 06:17 PM (WNERA)

209 199 That part of you dies. Your grieve. Then realize you're grieving for a terrible friend.
Hey I haven't gotten to that level of Depression Quest yet. Don't give any spoilers.

Posted by: bestie21 at November 19, 2014 06:17 PM (IPRGk)

210 I think they banned them everywhere a few years back. Fell under the "no flavored cigarettes" rule because, the children.
---

Oh Lawd. Now I REALLY want one.

They had those sweetened wrappers. And smelled so good.

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2014 06:17 PM (9BRsg)

211 203 I have Levin on, this may send him to the hospital. Cough cough.
Posted by: tinfoil baby at November 19, 2014 06:15 PM (hqVUe)

So far, he's pretty calm. But man, oh, man. We are in uncharted territory here.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 06:17 PM (CMkNk)

212 I am so happy that the EasyWay book helped you and you have such a positive response it. My daughter asked me to read it and it did help even though I didn't think it would.

I, too, would recommend it any who want to quit.

4.5 years for me after 36 years a smoker - hallelujah!

Posted by: just another bitter clinger at November 19, 2014 06:18 PM (+f598)

213 I did enjoy the part in the Simpsons when some lady would always yell, "What about the children!!"

Posted by: seems legit at November 19, 2014 06:18 PM (A98Xu)

214 I think they banned them everywhere a few years back. Fell under the "no flavored cigarettes" rule because, the children.
-----

Of course, the edible marijuana they were pushing at Halloween is a-ok!

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2014 06:18 PM (9BRsg)

215 192 I was a "social smoker" during my Science days, mostly b/c the scientists who were the most fun with the Europeans (I denounce myself) and THEY tended to smoke. Never got even psychologically addicted. I didn't want all of my shit to stink of cigarette smoke, for one thing, so I never smoked at home. Just at conferences.
Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2014 06:12 PM (9BRsg)

i went through a dunhill phase....& a kool phase.........just a social thing....i don't think i've smoked more than 20 packs of cigarettes in my life.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 107 days until spring training at November 19, 2014 06:18 PM (u8GsB)

216 Every summer if it runs true to form. And relax, the Irish he invites is just Cochran, not those other types.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter

You mean the black Irish? Racist.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2014 06:18 PM (4nR9/)

217 >>> I'm really annoyed because I started doing all these healthy things, and stopping doing a bunch of unhealthy ones, and so I was all ready to start Feeling Awesome when I caught this flu.

It's the winter of Ace!!!! Seriously tho, get better.

Posted by: LizLem, Ebola free...for now at November 19, 2014 06:18 PM (yRwC8)

218 171 It's organized by Sean Bannion, and he is a notorious anti-Semite....and a Papist. And he invites the Irish.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 06:07 PM (Zu3d9)

Well, my Kraut-Mick friend, I don't care how many Dago, Guinea, Greaseball, Goombahs you send!

And remember. I ain't no band leader!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 06:19 PM (CMkNk)

219 Sean Bannion,
I want an invite to NoVAMoMee next year, Vendete has my email address.

Posted by: Carol at November 19, 2014 06:20 PM (sj3Ax)

220 So, when do we have to start referring to him as King Obama?

Posted by: Baaaa! means no! at November 19, 2014 06:21 PM (iQIUe)

221 I did enjoy the part in the Simpsons when some lady would always yell, "What about the children!!"

I am waiting for the day when some bint says that to me
"Not mine. Not my responsibility!"

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 06:21 PM (tyv/s)

222
Well, my Kraut-Mick friend, I don't care how many Dago, Guinea, Greaseball, Goombahs you send!

And remember. I ain't no band leader!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

A Methodist, then.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2014 06:21 PM (4nR9/)

223 ace are you sure it's the flu & not the ebola?

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 107 days until spring training at November 19, 2014 06:21 PM (u8GsB)

224 Dang Ace, did you go see an Obama Doctor? Go see a real one.

Posted by: dogfish at November 19, 2014 06:21 PM (1vYi0)

225 I smoked while in university but haven't smoked in more than 30 years. I was one of those people who didn't find it difficult to quit.

I'm surrounded by lots of smokers and it really doesn't bother me if they smoke around me. Some people are very sensitive, but somehow I'm not.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 19, 2014 06:22 PM (Xmw9g)

226 222 A Methodist, then.
Posted by: pep at November 19, 2014 06:21 PM (4nR9/)

What method is it? Does it have "rhythm?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 06:22 PM (CMkNk)

227 Death really cuts down on those nicotine cravings. I haven't touched a cigarette in over 50 years, kid.

Posted by: Hemmingway Memorial Bridge Tolls for Thee at November 19, 2014 06:22 PM (Qu+jw)

228 One thing I've learned from Peaky Blinders: the Irish are derogated by the British as Fenians.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2014 06:22 PM (4nR9/)

229 This Thanksgiving Day will be three years since I stopped smoking. I've been vaping ever since and about a year ago went to 0 nicotine juice. It's because of a post about e-cigs by Ace and comments here and there by CDR M, so thanks both of you, and to some of the other morons who are fans of vaping.

Posted by: Retread at November 19, 2014 06:22 PM (l7hog)

230 I suppose a life without alcohol would be a lot healthier, but it seems like it would also be a lot less fun.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at November 19, 2014 06:23 PM (4/i9Y)

231 Baaaaa

I heard the Queen of England in appreciation of ear president's gift of an ipod with his speeches is going to send over an unused crown just laying around over there.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 19, 2014 06:23 PM (WNERA)

232 Ace, GOOD LUCK!

I used Allen Carr's book in 1998. Stopped smoking on Christmas Eve and never looked back.

All the other times I "quit" it was torture. Not when I used Carr's book.

The stupidest thing I ever did was start smoking. The smartest was to stop.

Welcome to a new life!

Posted by: RobertM at November 19, 2014 06:23 PM (mSPb+)

233 Sean Bannion,

I want an invite to NoVAMoMee next year, Vendete has my email address.

Posted by: Carol at November 19, 2014 06:20 PM (sj3Ax)

It's usually a group invite, a sort of "let me know you're showing up" sort of thing. He just needs a rough head-count so we can reserve a big enough space. You really should come down though, I've been to both of them and it really is a good time...and this coming from a guy who really doesn't like people all that much (and hates DC and the surrounding areas with the burning intensity of a thousand suns...the things I do for moronkind...).

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 19, 2014 06:24 PM (6fyGz)

234 I just pulled out big bag of M&Ms. I used to eat them for breakfast.

Posted by: Carol at November 19, 2014 06:24 PM (sj3Ax)

235 What method is it? Does it have "rhythm?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Don't kid me. The sons of Abraham are not known for their rhythm. Neither are Scandis, but I am that rarest of breeds: a pasty white of Scandi extraction and yet excellent rhythm. Now if I could only dance to anything besides ballroom and Latin.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2014 06:25 PM (4nR9/)

236 234 I just pulled out big bag of M&Ms. I used to eat them for breakfast.
Posted by: Carol at November 19, 2014 06:24 PM (sj3Ax)

carol....i used to eat those for breakfast & wash them down with a coke.....breakfast of champions

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 107 days until spring training at November 19, 2014 06:25 PM (u8GsB)

237 Easiest way to quit smoking? Have your doctor tell you there's a mass on your lung that is more than likely cancerous.

Posted by: shibumi who is exceptionally cynical today at November 19, 2014 06:26 PM (25HWz)

238 >>> NGU mentioned some of us NY/NJ/CT people coming down.

Never cross the streams! Some people never learn...

Posted by: LizLem, Ebola free...for now at November 19, 2014 06:26 PM (yRwC8)

239 The lesson the Liberal/Left have learned is that once a social program has been put in place, we can not rid ourselves of them.

On topic, because it causes me to want a smoke.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2014 06:27 PM (F2IAQ)

240 235 Posted by: pep at November 19, 2014 06:25 PM (4nR9/)

We Joo's are half-eggplant anyway. We got it. Along with white man's overbite.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 06:29 PM (CMkNk)

241 Ear president going for a slice of the pie amnesty. Congress should shut off all money for white house staff, the wookies staff, and fire the cook.

Cut off the heat, keep the security we might want the building later.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 19, 2014 06:29 PM (WNERA)

242 I used to hit a fancy-schmancy tobacconist's shoppe in my youth and taste-test all their wares. I was mostly in it for the aesthetics. There is no denying how cool looking you are in a black dress uniform puffing on a gold-tipped black cigarette in an ivory holder. Sobranies were the bomb.

Favorites: Sobranie cocktail cigs in the gayest of gay colors, Dunhill, schimmelfenig cigars, and clove cigs for clubbing.

Bad: Bidis (looked like joints, forever being confiscated during drug sweeps)

Worstest: Kazbeks. This is what they must smoke in the gulag. Basically a cardboard tube with an inch of dung mixed with pig snouts and wood pulp.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at November 19, 2014 06:29 PM (QBm1P)

243 There's something to this. I had a really bad habit of chewing on my beard until I watched a youtube video in which a guy (the Beard Baron) explained in a calm, methodical way exactly why I do it and how to casually stop it. Something about the simplistic "of course, duh" advice laid out in a concise manner really clicked.

And yeah, I know, not the same thing as smoking. I just thought the feeling was similar.

Posted by: A-Hole at November 19, 2014 06:29 PM (99rqy)

244 "174
I just smoke cigars. Definitely not addicted to nicotine. Last time I
puffed on one was Fourth of July, and don't know when I will next.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 19, 2014 06:07 PM (z/Ubi)"I love cigars, and I think the expense helps me from becoming a habitual smoker. I have one every few months. I also don't particularly like my clothes smelling like cigar smoke, so that helps as well.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at November 19, 2014 06:29 PM (4/i9Y)

245 Basically I was feeling like crap every single day of my life and decided that I would not go on like that any longer -- it was time for some changes.

That's why it worked.

Posted by: alexthechick - Do not doubt my commitment to Jazz Hands at November 19, 2014 06:29 PM (IrByp)

246 The simple way to quit smoking is to get into a situation/environment (5 days in a hospital bed works quite well) that doesn't let you get anywhere tobacco.

Then, the key is to completely change all your tiny little habits, like which way you always take to work, your bathroom routine, your TV habits, and so on.

It takes 4 days to cleanse the nicotine from your system (according to the surgeon who put me in the situation), and if his patients didn't change their routines, they all went back to smoking. His success ratio was around 60%.

I have (after 10 years) no desire for a smoke, and if you want to smoke one in front of me, feel free.

Posted by: jwb7605 at November 19, 2014 06:30 PM (ZALPg)

247 #237 If only that were true. I've seen too many cancer patients, emphysema patients, people missing their jaws from oral cancer puffing away.

My father, after he ended up in the hospital with pneumonia, was told he would be okay if he stopped smoking...if he didn't he was in for a life of torture.

Three guesses which one he chose..first two don't count.

Posted by: RobertM at November 19, 2014 06:31 PM (mSPb+)

248 Easiest way to quit smoking? Have your doctor tell you there's a mass on your lung that is more than likely cancerous.

Posted by: shibumi who is exceptionally cynical today at November 19, 2014 06:26 PM (25HWz)

My late wife smoked until the day she died of lung cancer. It was the only habit...besides me...that she couldn't break.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 19, 2014 06:31 PM (6fyGz)

249 243 There's something to this. I had a really bad habit of chewing on my beard...

Posted by: A-Hole at November 19, 2014 06:29 PM (99rqy)

Can you send the link? I'm tired of chewing out my beard, Barry...

Posted by: Michelle at November 19, 2014 06:31 PM (DNTer)

250 Ace, you should just switch to weed. Apparently, that's not bad for you at all.

Quitting cigs really is hard. You never quit craving them. Good luck.

Posted by: L, elle at November 19, 2014 06:32 PM (2x3L+)

251 Cut off the heat, keep the security we might want the building later.

Call Canada. See if they are willing to repeat a portion of 1812. Tell them we have volunteers to help carry the gas.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 06:32 PM (tyv/s)

252 When are we going to get serious on Syria, you guys?

Posted by: Blame Whom at November 19, 2014 06:32 PM (7wyDO)

253 I have a friend who smokes cloves. I'll bum one off of him every once in a while when we're at the bars, since they actually smell alright and have a decent taste.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at November 19, 2014 06:33 PM (4/i9Y)

254 Phoenix Girl,
I never liked Coke or any soft drinks, I used to eat with coffee
Now I eat everything with water.

Posted by: Carol at November 19, 2014 06:33 PM (sj3Ax)

255 Congratulations, Ace. I know that can't have been easy.
Hope you feel better soon so you can enjoy your AOS Now Nicotine-Free Lifestyle. <3

Posted by: Filly at November 19, 2014 06:33 PM (ZWmKk)

256 In my 26 years of smoking, the longest I had been without a smoke was during the 8 weeks of boot camp. After my first pulmonary embolism, Mrs. Nerd demanded I quit. And I tried. Lasted 4 days. So like the flaming addict I am, I hid it religiously. I should have been getting Christmas cards from Febreeze and Orbit gum. After the second hospital stay, I finally decided that this crap is unsustainable, and a solution had to be found.
My salvation has been the Vuse e-cig. None of the nasty smoke, lower nicotine content, somewhat cheaper.
I'm still on nicotine, but the cravings are SIGNIFICANTLY decreased. If you re even moderately inclined to quit try this route NOW. It's been 11 weeks, and for a man who loved smoking, I can't imagine going back.

Posted by: Yep, I'm a nerd at November 19, 2014 06:33 PM (FCgaq)

257 I can give you some pills and put you under for a few days to help get you a head start on quitting.

Posted by: Bill Cosby at November 19, 2014 06:34 PM (oFCZn)

258 252, we could send him some poison cigars that has never been tried.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 19, 2014 06:34 PM (WNERA)

259 Does this also apply to booze ?

I don't really NEED Valu-Rite in me every night . . .
but it certainly scratches an itch

Posted by: McCool at November 19, 2014 06:34 PM (Kbw23)

260 We Joo's are half-eggplant anyway. We got it. Along with white man's overbite.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2014 06:29 PM (CMkNk)

so...you all have purple skin? Like Peanut? I've never noticed...and you would think that sort of thing would stand out.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 19, 2014 06:34 PM (6fyGz)

261 I started smoking at 12 (sneaking) and full time at 14. It was cool to smoke in the 1970's and everyone I knew did.
I quit tens of times with gum, hypnosis and will power. I finally stopped in 1998 with a daily novena. Don't laugh, it worked. Maybe I was ready to stop.

I still have the urge to smoke and wish I could. I just know it would lead to an earlier death.

One tip about nicotine patch is that it should be removed before bed or they can cause terrible nightmares.

Posted by: bossy barbara at November 19, 2014 06:35 PM (79RKq)

262 To all of you "Persons of Color -- BLACKS that voted for "Chocolate Jesus" ----------------------- SUCKERS TOOK IT UP THE ASS BIG TIME !!!!!!!

Posted by: Buster Hymand at November 19, 2014 06:35 PM (Sd++4)

263 Speaking of cancer:

Maryland County To Churches: Preach Global Warming Propaganda To Your Parishioners And Get A Tax Break

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2014 06:35 PM (+GmxD)

264 I sometime like Special Report panel but will turn off because Juan Williams is on.

Posted by: Carol at November 19, 2014 06:36 PM (sj3Ax)

265 As others have noted, it's likely your body is detoxing and you don't actually have the flu. As you said on a recent podcast, you consumed copious amounts of nicotine, caffeine, and soda for years, man. Just drink your water - measure it out if you have to so you know how much you're actually drinking - and flush all that shit out. I quit a coffee/nicotine/Monster habit a couple of years ago and was convinced for weeks I was dying. I feel for you.

Posted by: 101 at November 19, 2014 06:36 PM (DTBbS)

266 New one up

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2014 06:37 PM (+GmxD)

267 What Mr. Drudge doesn't understand is, I like it when Barack stretches my squeakhole.

Posted by: Tom Coburn at November 19, 2014 06:37 PM (XzRw1)

268 In all seriousness, I do have a couple addictions I'd like to break. I don't think any of them are seriously physically harmful, but I dislike the psychological hold they have on me. Not sure I'm at a place right now where I have the strength the break them, though; that could just be the rationalization of an addict, but I feel like I need to be in a better place emotionally to fight through that.

I do have some prior success in getting healthier (greatly improved my diet and exercise habits in the past three years), so I think I have the willpower, if I'm willing to channel it.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at November 19, 2014 06:38 PM (4/i9Y)

269 My salvation has been the Vuse e-cig. None of the nasty smoke, lower nicotine content, somewhat cheaper.

It was two years last April 1st that I had my last cigarette, thanks to vaping. Haven't even wanted one.
$6.00 a pack helped the decision. That and a custom $600.00 pump paintball gun a buddy gave me as an incentive.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2014 06:41 PM (tyv/s)

270 Cigarettes are no different than heroin, speed, crack, pills. That's why Vaping is such a big tool to use for tobacco. No other drug has the same thing to help quit. And don't tell me about more pills. They are killing by putting more chemicals in your body. On the other side, the drug addicts can now Vape their favorite high. Are you Libertarian?

Posted by: tinfoil baby at November 19, 2014 06:44 PM (hqVUe)

271 Okay... the comments are back on.

And, we're back on the Evil Demon Nicotine train again.

Hmm... thanks for sharing, Ace, but I prefer the conservative default position of "None of your (damn) business."

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 19, 2014 06:57 PM (/mTq0)

272 Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at November 19, 2014 06:38 PM (4/i9Y)

Masturbation is not an addiction.

Just sayin.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 06:59 PM (Zu3d9)

273 Masturbation is not an addiction.

Just sayin.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

**golf clap**

Posted by: Retread at November 19, 2014 07:03 PM (l7hog)

274 Look. I'm going to give you some real health advice. When you want to sterlize a wound, what do you do? Wipe it with alcohol. Want to cure meat? Smoke it. Ergo, if you make your body a healthy place, the microbes will just infest it even more badly. If you train your body to survive extreme conditions like smoke and drink, well, it will be just like the habitat of thoses extremophile bugs that live in geyers. Nothing lives in there but the bugs that have evolved for thoses conditions. Make your body an inhospitable place for germs.

Evolve yourself. Science!

Posted by: Dr. McCoy at November 19, 2014 07:05 PM (/EkKm)

275 Ace, I read the same book and quit almost a year ago in conjunction with Chantix (TM). Another thing that helped me over the long run was adjusting my beverage profile--coffee, gin & tonics, and beer were serious triggers, so I switched for a while to tea, vodka sodas, no beer, added bourbon to the mix, just to avoid the association with cravings.

Posted by: kiffen at November 19, 2014 07:10 PM (9ATG5)

276 Do you really like feeling hot smoke moving through your sinuses and lungs?

Damn now I want a smoke

Posted by: arlingtonjoecpa at November 19, 2014 07:25 PM (Lk67m)

277 Congratulations Ace,

I quit Nicotine a few years ago, and it was one of the most difficult, yet rewarding things I've done. I hope it continues. Good luck.

Posted by: DFCtomm at November 19, 2014 07:35 PM (1V3p3)

278 I've been sicker than ever in my whole life after quitting smoking.

Of course some of that is age and I wouldn't be much better off because my lungs were really bad.

Still I've had more illness since 1998.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 19, 2014 07:36 PM (KK+mC)

279 "Masturbation is not an addiction.

Just sayin.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2014 06:59 PM (Zu3d9)"No, but porn can be. Again, I don't consider it some sort of life-threatening thing. It's just something I'd like to eventually change when I have time for it to be a higher priority.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at November 19, 2014 07:39 PM (4/i9Y)

280 I quit after 15 years of smoking. I wasn't an especially heavy smoker... maybe 5 to 10 cigarettes per day (less on weekdays, more on weekends). Just went cold turkey and never looked back.

Do I miss it? Yes I do. I actually enjoyed smoking. I found it to be a highly-pleasurable activity. Just the physical act alone was enjoyable. If it weren't for the health concerns, I would be smoking today.

But, just because something feels good doesn't mean we should do it. In my case, quitting was fairly easy, but I don't have a very addictive personality. My advice to those who have trouble quitting is to keep on looking for the way that will help *you* quit. Everyone is different and there are a myriad of ways to accomplish the goal.

Posted by: JoeC at November 19, 2014 07:53 PM (IgCV5)

281 Ace, about the cough: Delsym will stop it dead. Best stuff I've ever used.

And whatever it takes to quit smoking, do it. I quit after over 30 years and feel so much better. The first week was tough, and I missed smoking for another 30 days, but after that, never looked back. I can breathe, no coughing, no waking up at night for a fix, no stinky clothes.

Yeah yeah, no zealot like a convert. But you know I'm right.

Posted by: Xavier at November 19, 2014 07:54 PM (G3Wf1)

282 >>Posted by: Buster Hymand at November 19, 2014 06:35 PM (Sd++4)

bug off, loser

Posted by: Y-not at November 19, 2014 08:04 PM (9BRsg)

283 The first six months or so after I quit I caught every weird disease there was. Scared the shit out of me.

I can't recommend quitting in the winter.

Posted by: Dan at November 19, 2014 08:19 PM (AX4mE)

284 I've read about a third of a really good book called "Radical Frugality." It has helped a lot in my effort to get out of debt, not because the author has any sage investing advice or anything, but because of the psychological outlook I developed reading his ideas. It's very cheap for the Kindle and worth it.

Posted by: Null at November 19, 2014 08:29 PM (xjpRj)

285 "I can never take another puff"... Check out:
Whyquit.com

I found this site after 72 hours of not smoking...after 40 years of smoking. I did not want to substitute one addiction for another and wanted to quit cold turkey. info here helped me get to the 5 year mark this month.

Good luck...you cannot imagine how liberating it is to be nicotine free.

Posted by: Skeet Fischer at November 19, 2014 08:31 PM (Uv+1r)

286 Chantix worked like a charm for me. Almost no withdrawal symptoms at all. Six years ago and I only cheated for the first time this summer, getting hammered at a Kiss concert (you never stop missing it, so be prepared!

Posted by: WaitingForMartel at November 19, 2014 08:53 PM (BxDum)

287 The book is free online to read. Just do a google search. I believe it's in Adobe form.

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at November 19, 2014 08:57 PM (BKaug)

288 This administration, and I'm gonna worry about smoking?

Posted by: Corona at November 19, 2014 09:15 PM (fh2Y7)

289 If that's too obtuse, next time you reach for a door knob, think about Ebola. Clears your mind.

Posted by: Corona at November 19, 2014 09:18 PM (fh2Y7)

290 And... Carr was a VERY heavy smoker and died of lung cancer 20 years after going cold turkey. I've been a smoker since age ten, quit last February at 52, and now have a chronic cough as well, no stamina although I workout everyday at least 30 minutes and walk with my kids through the woods a few times a week. Thafuq?

Posted by: vaitguy at November 19, 2014 09:40 PM (asP0k)

291 I 'quit' about ten years ago, cold turkey, more or less. After about five years of thinking about it, one day I stopped smoking cigarettes and haven't had one since. I did chew Nicorette gum, two or three 4 mg pieces a day, and slowly cut down.

I work in a dusty environment and having something in my mouth induces saliva flow and ameliorates the effect of the dust. For the last 6 or 7 years I have been able to nibble on one piece of gum a tiny bit at a time and make it last a month. I don't use any when not at work. It is possible to use regular gum, but it is not quite as satisfying as one thirtieth of a milligram of nicotine. I can live with that. I reckon I have about 15 years supply, more than enough to last me until I retire.

Re: WaitingforMartel above, about once a year or so I have a dream in which I smoke, and enjoy it. I have not had waking cravings for about 5 years.

ps I LOVE not hocking up black oysters every morning.

Posted by: enkidu at November 19, 2014 09:56 PM (JiO8p)

292 12 weeks without a cigarette after 40 years of 1 to 1.5
packs a day (a habit started, ironically, to cover the smell of my daily pot habit as a 15 year old)...I can vouch for the efficacy of Chantix (third try's a charm) after sporadic efforts with nicorrette, the patch, and cold turkey over the years. My best advice is to hike trails with major verticals to remind you of your loss of lung function as motivation - my parents deaths of lung and pancreatic cancer, and my grandparents (blood and marriage) deaths of via same and heart disease and emphysema didn't have the same impact for some inexplicable reason...good luck.

Posted by: Tortillapete at November 19, 2014 09:57 PM (EBKDc)

293 Good for you Ace. Quitting smoking is the hardest thing I ever did. I quit right after the 2008 elections (I was lighting one right after another watching that f'ing victory rally in Grant Park), but I've had a few relapses since then. My last cig was over a year ago.

You probably can't feel it now because you're sick, but it was amazing to me how quickly my persistent smoker's cough went away. And, when I relapsed, it came right back. I don't miss that at all, nor do I mourn the days when every cold lasted forever and sometimes turned into bronchitis. Doesn't happen any more.

Since cigarettes are $7 a pack now and I was a pack and a half a day smoker - well, the extra cash is nice too.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at November 19, 2014 10:04 PM (+XMAD)

294 My dad quit smoking shortly after becoming a scientist at Philip Morris.

Posted by: Sarahw at November 19, 2014 10:21 PM (Lbv/k)

295 That was in the mad men years,

I know one of his patents was a method of increasing "flavor"
Mad men translation: getting the nicotine in you.

Posted by: Sarahw at November 19, 2014 10:24 PM (Lbv/k)

296 Ace,

Would you say that this book would also help someone with other kinds of addition?

Posted by: mAc at November 19, 2014 10:40 PM (hQnzg)

297 Used the same book Ace - cold turkey, it will be 5 years in April. It was actually kind of easy in the end.... Go figure

Posted by: Patrick at November 19, 2014 11:02 PM (ajp73)

298 Could you do one of these inspirational posts for those of us utilizing beer etc.?

Posted by: enzo at November 19, 2014 11:03 PM (Io9Ki)

299 1: Cough -- best remedy for cough is probably Vicodin. Most modern cough medicines don't really work (but you can get a good expectorant) for cough suppression. Your doctor can prescribe some cough medicine with codeine that will actually suppress it. Vicodin is a good alternative.

2: Smoking -- nicotine is a POWERFUL anti-depressant. Big pharma doesn't want you using nicotine, they would rather you use a prescription drug.

Remember -- 9 out of 10 doctors recommend drugs to their patients who use them.

Posted by: crosspatch at November 19, 2014 11:54 PM (ZbLJZ)

300 9 days in an induced coma after losing me on the Cath table. Then 12 more days on alternating IVs after finding out I was allergic to Heparin.
Not a method I would recommend, but it worked for me after 35 years of smoking. And I had tried EVERYTHING.

Posted by: dhead at November 20, 2014 12:32 AM (kH/If)

301 A friend of mine, 65, finally was able to quit after using filters for 3 months that take out all the tar and deliver only the nicotine. She didn't want to vape.

The filters reduced her craving enough that she was finally able to say, No, I don't need a cigarette right now -- and so far it's been five months!

Posted by: Beverly Cooper at November 20, 2014 01:58 AM (mR/k1)

302 I quit smoking in 1979... did it dinde froid... never looked back. But I had help and I recommend this for anyone who wants to quit: Take a lot of aspirin and a lot of pseudo. I discovered that a lot of the "symptoms" of quitting mimic those of a cold. So I took cold remedies, it helped get rid of the worst of the symptoms and-- bingo-- I was over the worst of it. Oh, and smoke a joint every now and then.

Posted by: brian mckim at November 20, 2014 02:36 AM (32N+1)

303 Ace,
I quit smoking several times, it finally stuck but it took ten long years to overcome the habit.
It is worth the time and effects.
Hang in there and find something to do when the urge to smoke comes upon you, I used Popsicle, bike rides, snorkel diving as well as other less exotic substitutes for tobacco.
Bicycling works as does jogging because it's hard to smoke and bike/jog at the same time the same as snorkel diving.
If I can do it, you can do it.
Hang tough it's a nasty wasteful habit.
obsidian/Barry

Posted by: obsidian at November 20, 2014 10:07 AM (WvWXj)

304 Ace,
The wife did the hypnosis thing and after two hypnosis visits she quit smoking.
obsidian/Barry

Posted by: obsidian at November 20, 2014 10:09 AM (WvWXj)

305 FWIW, I found this site very helpful: http://whyquit.com/. It was posted by another Moron years ago in another quit smoking thread. Cold turkey after 30 years of smoking, 4 1/2 years ago now I think. The guy who writes that site is heavily in favor of cold turkey too, for some reason, but obviously different methods work for different people.. I will say one advantage to cold turkey for me was that the first three days were so awful I never wanted to go through THAT again, so I never picked up another cigarette. I still have nightmares sometimes that I started smoking again, and am going to have to quit all over again.

Posted by: Dora Suarez at November 20, 2014 11:01 AM (0/Svj)

306
I also found whyquit very helpful and read it every day for support while I was quitting my 20-year half-to-whole pack a day habit. That was seven years ago and now I don't even think about smoking (maybe have 2 or 3 a year, if I'm out really drunk with good friends, but I usually just have a few puffs and toss it). I haven't looked at the site in a while, but when I was using it it was 100% non-commercial, no ads and the proprieter did not accept donations.
The reason he advocates cold turkey and disparages nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) is because you are addicted to nicotine, not cigarettes. It's impossible to kick the habit when you keep administering the drug through alternative methods. This is really obvious, but you don't hear it much because there's a lot of money tied up in NRT. If you quit cold turkey, the nicotine is completely out of your body in THREE DAYS. Yeah it's a crappy three days (actually its a crappy coupla months) butthe drug isgone and at that point your body starts the physical process of rebuilding and kicking the habit. You just have to endure some cravings and let your body do the rest of the work.
When you use replacement therapy, the nicotine is NEVER GONE. It's always there in your bloodstream so your body will always ask for more of it.In other words, not going cold turkey is just torturing yourself. "Cutting down" just condemns yourself to a longer period of more and more cravings.
I remember reading on the website something like the following: Imagine if someone told you to quit your pack-a-day habit by just smoking one less cigarette each day. This sounds pretty simple at first but as you start getting down below ten cigs or so it's going to get really hard. The last week where you are going from seven to zero is especially brutal.
Now imagine someone else just quit cold turkey on day one. That person is completely nicotine-free by day three. While you are freaking out over the next seventeen days, that person is already in the process of rebuilding.
Anyway, food for thought. Best of luck to you Ace.

Posted by: Stinky Tofu at November 20, 2014 03:06 PM (yXWrO)

307 I believe you can do it Ace. You have the willpower to accomplish what you decide to change. And after watching my mother due badly from smoking; I'm glad you are throwing this monkey down, and stomping it.- Surfin

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at November 21, 2014 12:46 PM (GVMts)

308 Don't be a wuss. I was 2-3 packs a day 40 years ago. I decided I would quit on Jan 1. I decided in October. I smoked everything in sight until New Year's Eve, walked away from it and have not had a cigarette or the desire for one since. Of course, I had a toxic level in my bloodstream for months but it takes nothing more than commitment...and not that much...after 72 hours.

Posted by: Charles at November 21, 2014 09:54 PM (jK7jE)

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