Sunday Morning Book Thread 06-08-2014 [OregonMuse]

Good morning morons and moronettes and welcome to AoSHQ's stately and prestigious Sunday Morning Book Thread.


Damien Walter Explains It All For You

There have been many times where I've found the British press, both in form and in content, to be vastly superior to our own.

This isn't one of them.

In the area of lame-ass commentary, the Brits have demonstrated that they are capable of equalllng or even exceeding our own, native-born, lame-ass commentators.

Mr. Walter has devoted most of an entire column to the Hugo Awards/Larry Correia dust-up. And, guess who he thinks is at fault?

It is no coincidence that, just as it outgrows its limiting cultural biases, science fiction should also face protests from some members of the predominantly white male audience who believed it to be their rightful domain. What the conservative authors protesting the Hugo awards perceive as a liberal clique is simply science fiction outgrowing them, and their narrow conception of the genre's worth.

This is a prime example of the "he started it, he hit me back" defense that progressives utilize when conservatives dare to object to their hardcore totalitarian tactics. So, according to Walter, who never bothers to tell you who struck the first blow, all the brouhaha in the SFWA is because of a bunch of bitter, angry white guys who are sore because they're h8ers whose favorite white authors are being edged out. Walter is kind of like that MSNBC clown Toure or "the fool" I discussed on the book thread several weeks ago. Meaning, one-eyed observers who only know one thing, they only have one card to play, so all they can do is play it over and over again, like a broken record. But in order to do this, such men have to ignore all of the facts that lie outside of their preferred narrative. In this case, Walter has to pretend things like this simply don't exist:

One of the smaller voting blocks at WorldCon is made up of Baen fans. They got me a nomination for the Campbell award for best new author. I was brand new, hardly anybody except for them had heard of me. No problem... Except then people looked to see who these new guys were, and they discovered that I was a Mormon, who owned a gun store, and who'd done gun rights lobbying for the Republican party, and had been running a gun nut political blog for years... Whoops. The SJWs had a complete come apart and began warning each other what a terrible, awful, horrible, bad person I was. (most of them were downright gleeful to proclaim they would never read any books from someone so despicable).

In the comment section of his own article, it's fascinating to watch Mr. Walter doubling and tripling down on stupid.

How To Move 500,000 Books

Now this is something from the Guardian that is actually worthwhile, a time-lapse video of the relocation of a London bookstore to a (hopefully) more profitable location.

Warning: it's one of those stupid, annoying auto-start videos.

The Blind Squirrel Finds A Nut

Believe it or not, you can even find good stuff on NBR. There's a new book out about an aspect of the civil rights movement you don't normally hear about: This Nonviolent Stuff'll Get You Killed: How Guns Made the Civil Rights Movement Possible by Charles Cobb. You can listen to Professor Cobb being interviewed on an NPR book news show here.


Where Do Manly Men Come From?

From dangerous boys, of course. I'm referring to The Dangerous Book for Boys by Conn and Hal Iggulden. The book is a compendium of sorts, a combination of:

guidebook and almanac that includes instructions on how to perform coin tricks, and how to make go-carts, tree houses, and paper airplanes that fly long distances. The book also includes articles on famous battles, historical figures (like polar explorers) and the Navajo code talkers, among many others.

It's a pity that we have fallen so low that all of this stuff, that every boy used to know, now has to be written down. But it's good that it's preserved. It came to my attention this week because I read that Bryan Cranston's production company is developing it as a comedy TV series, about three boys as they "use their imaginations to navigate growing up without a father."

It has a companion book, by the way, The Daring Book For Girls by Andrea Buchanan.


None Dare Call It Hate Speech

For some reason, I've been on a grim nostalgia kick lately, recounting some events from when I was growing up that were particularly horrific. First it was the Zodiac murders, but one of my correspondents reminded me that San Francisco was rocked with another series of murders which I had completely forgotten about. So I'd like to see a show of hands here, how many of you older morons remember the 'Zebra' murders? Anyone? (I see your hand, zombie, thank you, you can put it down now.) Officially, 14 people were executed, and 8 others assaulted or shot (including future SF Mayor Art Agnos)during a six-month murder spree in 1973-74. And that's just for SF. Statewide, they think the body count may be as high as 71(!) The 'Zebra' designation comes from the SF Police radio frequency the special task force was given exclusive use of.

I've been reading one of the two books written about these murders, Zebra: The True Account of 179 Days of Terror in San Francisco by Clark Howard, which is available to be read for free online, and also downloadable in various formats. It's rich in detail, sometimes overly slow For example, the wikipedia entry blandly notes that the murders were "racially motivated" and that's pretty much all that's said about it. But Howard takes you inside meetings held at Nation of Islam Mosque #26 where a mysterious, well-dressed teacher (nick-named "Vandyke" by the author after his neatly-trimmed beard) lectures relentlessly that the "white devils" are evil and must be killed. And this is the part that interests me. If Howard's descriptions are accurate, this is straight-up incitement to murder, and aren't there criminal penalties for it? I'm only through the first third of the book, but I'm hoping Howard will eventually explain why this cat was never indicted, or even arrested. Perhaps he was able to so adroitly phrase his rhetoric (like Bill Clinton before a grand jury) that he never crossed over the statutory boundary. Or, maybe having caught the murderers and getting them off the streets (spoiler: one of their buds ratted them out for the reward money), the DA's office thought that the threat to public safety had been sufficiently blunted.

Note: One of the perps came up for parole last year, but was denied. Fine. But his sentence was "life without possibility of parole", so why are they even considering this?

Cooks pleaded guilty to one of the murders but went to trial on the other shootings and was convicted, along with three other defendants. All were sentenced to life with the possibility of parole. The Board of Parole Hearings denied parole to Cooks at a hearing Tuesday and said he would be considered for release again in 2020.

Now, I doubt this would ever happen. I think there would be howls of outrage, even in San Francisco, even 40 years after the fact, if some little-old-lady-in-tennis-shoes judge actually went so far as to release any of the Zebra murderers. But I'm confused as to the necessity of this. If the sentence was truly 'LWP', then why go through this Kabuki theater every 7 years? But if parole is being seriously considered at these hearings, then the 'LWP' sentence is a joke. I wonder if the relatives of the murder victims are angry about this. I know I'd be. [Update: Thank you GnuBreed, for pointing out my obvious error, life with the possibility of parole, not without. Gah, I'm such an idiot]

Next up on my own personal magical misery tour: Rat bastard commie Jim Jones and his "People's Temple". The poisoning deaths of over 900 people in 1979 (including 276 children) was the greatest loss of civilian life in American history until 9-11.

On second thought, maybe I'll pass, That's too grim, even for me.


Rap Masters

I'm sure you've all seen at least one of the "Epic Rap Battles of History" on Youtube. Some of them are kind of meh, but I thought this one, which pits Edgar Allen Poe vs. Stephen King, is actually pretty good. And particularly appropriate for this book thread.


Conspiracy Theorists Assemble!

I discovered this week that someone has uploaded a depository of books, articles, and other material on the JFK assassination. They all appear to be .pdf scans. Some of these date back to the mid-1960s, and therefore may be of historical interest. Glancing through the titles, some of them look like they might be interesting, some look tin-foil-hat whacky, and a couple may not have anything to do with JFK at all. Regardless, I don't think there's a one that argues in favor of the 'LCC' (JFK was killed by a lone commie crackpot) version.

If you want to download all of them, there's a handy-dandy one-click "download everything" button on the upper left corner of the page.


Books By Morons

Moronette lurker Joy wants you all to buy and read her husband's short novel The Little Book of Big Enlightenment, which asks the rhetorical question, what would happen if you took Deepak Chopra and Billy Mays and squished them together?

After pioneering a method of achieving rapid spiritual enlightenment, [Master Lompoc] Tollhaus suffered a chakra mishap and was forced to co-author his "Little Book" with a marketing hack. The mismatched pair snipe, snark and embarrass one another as they discuss the Big Spirit cartel that runs the New Age industry - and warn against "hyper-enlightenment": a pathology arising from spiritual short cuts. But then the unexpected happens, and Lompoc Tollhaus must question his own beliefs in the face of something remarkable . . . and, possibly, gluten free.

Available on Kindle for $1.99 and on other e-Book platforms.


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Long time moronette Anna Puma has published a volume of her short stories, The Princess Who Caused Fear: An Anthology which you can purchase on Amazon for $0.99 (Kindle). She says the anthology includes "Conan-style purple prose sword and sorcery but with a few twists...modern military horror, ancient lands, the mystery of what has caused murder in an apartment in Korea, and other places that I let my imagination wander off to."


Books of Note

Moron CBD brings to my attention G K Chesterton's novel The Flying Inn. Published in 1914, it is set in a future Islamicized England, where the British Army had been decisively beaten by the Turks. The result of this inglorious defeat is that shari'a law is now being imposed on the entire country. There's an extensive write-up about it on Daniel Pipes' blog. Free versions are available, too.

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"Flashman" fans will no doubt be interested that the Kindle edition of George McDonald Fraser's memoir of his WW II experiences in Burma, Quartered Safe Out Here: A Harrowing Tale of World War II, is on sale for $1.99 until Monday, June 9. In addition, the volume contains

A substantial Epilogue, occasioned by the 50th anniversary of VJ-Day in 1995, adds poignancy to a volume that eminent military historian John Keegan described as "one of the great personal memoirs of the Second World War."

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The Kindle version of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, the first volume of C.S. Lewis' Narnia books, is on sale for $1.99. Also B&N and Google.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as I keep saying, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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1 Yesterday I took a break from the internet and spent most of the day reading "Fortress Rabaul" by Bruce Gamble. I'm about 2/3 through it.

It covers battles around New Guinea, New Britain, and the Coral Sea in 1942-43. I'm about to the point where the Solomons campaign is beginning.

Posted by: rickl at June 08, 2014 10:26 AM (sdi6R)

2 There's a new book out about an aspect of the civil rights movement you don't normally hear about: This Nonviolent Stuff'll Get You Killed: How Guns Made the Civil Rights Movement Possible

Someone should forward that to Glenn Beck.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's Solid Gold Diaphragm at June 08, 2014 10:28 AM (bHnlE)

3 I recently re-read "The Old Regime and the Revolution" by Alexis de Tocqueville.

Therein, de Tocqueville describes that state of France right before the Revolution, how the Jacobins took over, and how they solidified everything that was wrong in France while eschewing anything of worth.

The description of the pre-Revolutionary France is frightening in how it can also describe modern-day America. Many passages can be quoted verbatim and they apply.

His description of the Jacobins, why they did what they did, and what they believe, is one of the best descriptions of the Left that I have read. Whether is is the modern Progressive, the die-hard Marxist, or the furious fascist, they are all descendants of the Jacobins.

"The Old Regime and the Revolution" is far more relevant to modern America than "Democracy in America" is...

Posted by: The Literary Hat at June 08, 2014 10:30 AM (K1sEu)

4 Went to a library book sale in the next town on Friday, and scored -- among others -- a copy of T.C. Boyle's The Road to Wellville, replacing a copy I had long ago.

Hilarious, and clearly well-researched. No political statements or polemics, just good reading and a lot of laughs. Unless someone is offended that John Harvey Kellogg was characterized as batshit crazy....

Now all I need is to find a DVD of the movie, which was also terrific.

Posted by: MrScribbler at June 08, 2014 10:31 AM (dDzOj)

5 hi all
no HQ links in the amazon links?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2014 10:33 AM (9GG/0)

6 I lived in S. F. during the Zodiac murders. The killers seemed to be hanging around outside laundromats, shooting people as they came out or went inside.


The SF Chronic played down the racial angle, saying that the victims were Asian as well as White ( but not Black ). It was just a rowdy club where you had to kill Whitey to join...


nothing to see here, folks...and forty years later the song remains the same

Posted by: doug the head at June 08, 2014 10:34 AM (8CdUx)

7 I found a Kindle copy of Henry Adams' History of the United States.

Bought and looking forward to a good read.

http://tinyurl.com/ots9xj5

Also, I've begun to read the adventures of Solomon Kane. They're not quite as weird, dark, or entertaining as most of the Conan stories by Howard, but it's still pretty fun.

Posted by: Fluffy Destroyer of Worlds at June 08, 2014 10:35 AM (pGKt9)

8 I meant 'Zebra', not Zodiac. Too many Zs

Posted by: doug the head at June 08, 2014 10:37 AM (8CdUx)

9 Forget it, Jake, it's the _Guardian_.

One of the most ridiculous hives of lefty moonbat nonsense on the planet.

At one point I had a commenting account there. Then I posted a comment that was immediately pulled, and had my commenting privileges revoked.

What brought that on? What horrible thing did I do or say?

I had posted a link to a Guardian article which contradicted the premise of the Guardian article I was commenting on. That's it. I hadn't even said anything myself in the comment other than to post the link.

So, in brief, at the Guardian, quoting the Guardian itself is a bannable offense.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 08, 2014 10:41 AM (noWW6)

10 Got an advance copy of Ben Winters "World of Trouble" (The Last Policeman Book III). Going to start reading it later today. My sister said it was really good.

Posted by: HH at June 08, 2014 10:43 AM (XXwdv)

11 Re: Hugo Awards: Leftists gave up on forming their own competing organizations to promote their ideals long ago. They gave up because they always failed, since few people liked them and they couldn't survive in a competitive environment. The dominant strategy for the last half-century is to take over a successful traditional institution and corrupt it from the inside, that way they can loot it of all its accumulated material and reputational wealth, tear down everything it stood for, then move on leaving an empty husk behind. The Hugo, the Boy Scouts, colleges and universities, marriage, etc. The grand plan is to do the same with the United States as a whole, and Obama is one of its prime practitioners.

Posted by: Socratease at June 08, 2014 10:43 AM (2GbWn)

12 My favorite book is the one President Obama wrote we should all read it to understand how can all better our lives.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at June 08, 2014 10:47 AM (hP/Mt)

13 "The Flying Inn" looks interesting. Plus, Chesterton is almost always a good read.


Speaking of prophetic novels-

"The Camp of the Saints" is raising it's head again. As happens every few years.


http://americanthinker.com/2014/06/the_wests_last_s

tand__a_review_of_the_camp_of_the_saints.html


Either a brilliant extrapolation of the end of Western Civ bought about by it's own leftist/progtard policies

or

the most xenophobicly racist novel that was ever racistly xenophobic

depending on who you ask.


But, since I apparently get to sample the novel's world thanks to people like King Putt and Cantor-

I guess I'll finally have to give it a read.

So, I ask-


Have any fellow morons or ettes read "The Camp of the Saints"?

And what is your quickie review? Is it worth a read?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 08, 2014 10:47 AM (KBvAm)

14 Anyone else getting a "This title not available for purchase" error on Quartered Safe Out Here?

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 08, 2014 10:48 AM (6pd4C)

15 So many wonderful suggestions an I haven't even started to read the comments yet. I can tell I'm going to be busy at Amazon today.

Finishing book 2 of the Ringo/Weber chronicle, "Empire of Man". Little lessons in military tactics, economics, political thought, etc. Great fun. Taking a break before I dive into #3 and reading P.C. Hodgell's latest Kencyrath novel.

Posted by: Tuna at June 08, 2014 10:49 AM (7KPIw)

16 Decided to read some of the earlier C. J. Box "Joe Pickett" books. About 3/4 of the way through "Free Fire" (2007). Highly recommended. Good article - http://goo.gl/1zUNcJ
*
Borrowed the "Gravity" DVD set from the library. Great movie, but the 3 hour bonus disc was fascinating -- how story was developed, technical wizardry, and Sandra Bullock's hard work.

Posted by: doug at June 08, 2014 10:49 AM (Q8lvS)

17 OM, in your write-up of the Zebra murders you question why there are parole hearings when the sentence was life without parole, but you quote:

Cooks pleaded guilty to one of the murders but went to trial on the
other shootings and was convicted, along with three other defendants.
All were sentenced to life with the possibility of parole.


You bolded those last 6 words. The key word is 'with'.

For those interested in shorter write-ups on many notorious crimes and killers, I read this site:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/index.html

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 08, 2014 10:51 AM (cHZB7)

18 The left never stopped demonizing freedom marcher Charlton Heston for his 2nd amendment defense, meanwhile he understood better than those breathless little milquetoasts that rights aren't given, they're taken.

Posted by: Chupacabras at June 08, 2014 10:51 AM (qDuQy)

19
Looking at our zillions of books, I've realised that I would have to think about living to about 150yo to finish them all....

My recommendation today - for heavy duty reading "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William Shirer

I's a fascinating read and I'm happy to have picked up this copy at a charity book sale for $2

For light reading, I buy cheapie murder mysteries on Kindle and the one I'm reading now is set in Brattleboro!

Now I thought this was a pretend name from the sock poster seen occasionally here but it's a real live town..


Posted by: aussie at June 08, 2014 10:56 AM (lWCq0)

20 After leafing through The Dangerous Book for Boys in a bookstore, I consider The American Boy's Handy Book (1882) a superior text.

Posted by: Skin a Rabbit at June 08, 2014 10:59 AM (wu/TK)

21 Hey, I'm a mormon, gun owning scifi author with a history of right-wing blogging. Where's my lefty lynch mob?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 08, 2014 11:01 AM (Dtd/o)

22 yeah for anna!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 08, 2014 11:04 AM (u8GsB)

23 Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 08, 2014 11:01 AM (Dtd/o)

For a second there, I thought your hash was "Dildo".

Posted by: jwpaine at June 08, 2014 11:05 AM (68O4K)

24 Read a fun book this past week: "Of Dice And Men" by David Ewalt. It's a history of Dungeons & Dragons, both as a cultural phenomenon, a business, and how it affected Ewalt's own life. He's a Forbes reporter, so he can write pretty well and understands the financial minutiae. He's also a pretty shameless geek, which is nice.

The brief takeaway: if anybody associated with TSR in the early years had the slightest bit of business sense, things would have been very different. But from sad personal experience I know that business sense is rarer than Vecna's toenails in the roleplaying game field.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 08, 2014 11:06 AM (zBTgX)

25 OregonMuse,

The link to Anna Puma's book The Princess Who Caused Fear: An Anthology goes to a 404 error.

Posted by: ExSnipe at June 08, 2014 11:06 AM (xVYuE)

26 You bolded those last 6 words. The key word is 'with'.

Yeah, I should read more carefully, thanks, GnuBreed. I've updated the text accordingly.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 08, 2014 11:06 AM (fTJ5O)

27 The link to Anna Puma's book The Princess Who Caused Fear: An Anthology goes to a 404 error.
Posted by: ExSnipe at June 08, 2014 11:06 AM (xVYuE)

linky is broken....i just "bing-ed" it

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 08, 2014 11:07 AM (u8GsB)

28 For a second there, I thought your hash was "Dildo".

Aw, it's not?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 08, 2014 11:08 AM (Dtd/o)

29 Heh-heh.

Posted by: jwpaine at June 08, 2014 11:09 AM (68O4K)

30 27 The link to Anna Puma's book The Princess Who Caused Fear: An Anthology goes to a 404 error.
Posted by: ExSnipe at June 08, 2014 11:06 AM (xVYuE)


Should be fixed now.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 08, 2014 11:09 AM (fTJ5O)

31 The left's really been showing their spots lately with the badthink witchhunts and siding against consumers in the Hatchett/Amazon fight. These are all fascist moves that would make someone with even a little self-awareness take pause.

Posted by: Chupacabras at June 08, 2014 11:09 AM (qDuQy)

32 I agree, Aussie, Shirer's book is compelling not just for the detailed account of the Third Reich but also his personal recollections of Hitler and the German people. Vic posted the link to it when the Kindle version was on sale on Amazon, and I couldn't stop reading it once I downloaded it.

Posted by: pookysgirl at June 08, 2014 11:11 AM (bRPUY)

33 Bit of a personal grump: Why, oh why was it necessary to come out with a companion volume to the "Dangerous Book" aimed at girls? Girls get special encouragement every day of their lives in school, at church, in all the media. There are scholarships and foundations and whole organizations designed to encourage girls and build their confidence.

What do boys get?

So everything for boys MUST have an equivalent for girls, because otherwise would be sexist and hateful. But girls are such special helpless basket cases that they also need huge amounts of girl-only support and resources, which boys don't get because they're boys.

Does anyone else think this is incredibly sexist and hateful? Sexist because apparently even the empowered womyn running these programs think girls are helpless and kinda stupid, and hateful because they won't lift a finger on behalf of boys.

I know, I know: the book probably exists to capitalize on the brand, but still . . .

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 08, 2014 11:11 AM (zBTgX)

34 Oregon Muse, thank you so much for the plug. I do hope people find something entertaining and perhaps thought provoking amidst those stories. Thank you again.

Just released from Baen is the latest Kencyrath novel - The Sea of Time.
http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/1476736499

If you are not familiar with this series, this is not the book to start with. Start with The God Stalker Chronicles.
http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/1439133360

We who have waited so many years to see this story unfold are perilously approaching the end. Where Jame will probably look properly apologetic as Tori sighs while looking confused.

And staying true to form from Baen, the cover artist once again screws the pooch. Plus side Jame is no longer the raven haired buxom thief that graced previous covers. However she now looks more like someone's male page or squire. *thud* And less said about the 'rathorn' on the cover the better, Death head is an albino with red eyes and tusks. One could almost never guess that from the dapple gray horse on the cover with dark eyes and tusks that more resemble stiff spikes of long hair.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 08, 2014 11:11 AM (8QnBQ)

35 For light reading, I buy cheapie murder mysteries on Kindle and the one I'm reading now is set in Brattleboro!

Now I thought this was a pretend name from the sock poster seen occasionally here but it's a real live town..




Posted by: aussie at June 08, 2014 10:56 AM (lWCq0)


I was at Brattleboro for a photography workshop in the late 70s; it's an arty type place that is chock full of lefties.

Regarding books, I finished reading "Wide Sargasso Sea" by Jean Rhys and, if you haven't read "Jane Eyre", don't waste your time. I was cruising through the first two parts and pretty much enjoying it but the end turned into a massive cluserfuck where nothing made sense if you haven't read the previously mentioned book, which I hadn't. This was a book group choice and I wasn't very complimentary to the person who chose this.

Much more enjoyable is the second book in the Aubrey/Maturin series by Patrick O'Brian "Post Captain" which is a thoroughly entertaining explication of the people of the early 19th century seafaring life, even during extended periods on land. Made some progress in the books on the Crusades I'm reading but not enough to mention. Ditto for "The Red Fortress" by Catherine Merridale.

I bought some books at the Case Western Reserve Book Sale last weekend that I'd like the opinions of any Horde members who are familiar with them:
August 1914 by SolzhenitsynThe Shattered Bloc: Behind the Upheaval in Eastern Europe by Elie AbelKososvo: A Short History by Noel Malcolm

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 08, 2014 11:15 AM (/W6+a)

36 Back, and to the left.

Back, and to the left.

Posted by: Oliver Stone at June 08, 2014 11:16 AM (oFCZn)

37 Goddamn formatting on this garbage software

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 08, 2014 11:16 AM (/W6+a)

38 34
Anna,
Is that you in the link picture?

Posted by: Tuna at June 08, 2014 11:16 AM (7KPIw)

39 14 Anyone else getting a "This title not available for purchase" error on Quartered Safe Out Here?

I fixed the link, at least I think I did. Try it now.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 08, 2014 11:16 AM (fTJ5O)

40 Tuna LOL

That is one of the stock images that Amazon and Kindle Direct Publishing offers to make a cover.

Sorry to disappoint if you were expecting that to be me.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 08, 2014 11:18 AM (8QnBQ)

41
32 pookysgirl

Hi, and I wish I had it on Kindle because it's such a big book so it's hard to take anywhere to read - not the ideal handbag book at all!

I also have a personal interest in the history of WW11 in Europe - I was born in a country still suffering years later and it's capital city was still occupied by the Allies in 1954

Anyway, bedtime here at Chez Aussie

Goodnight all!

Posted by: aussie at June 08, 2014 11:19 AM (lWCq0)

42 aussie,

You might be interested in Ship of Ghosts by James D. Hornfischer. It's mostly about the USS Houston sunk at the Battle of Sundra Strait on March 1, 1942 along with the HMAS Perth. It's also about the survivors as POWs.

One Houston survivor, Otto Schwarz, said of the Aussies; Those Aussies, if you ever have to get captured, get captured with Aussies.

I have recently read that both the Houston and Perth have been scavenged by salvagers. Possibly Japanese.

Posted by: ExSnipe at June 08, 2014 11:19 AM (xVYuE)

43 My childhood as a semi-rural bumpkinette prompted me to buy the Daring/Dangerous books, which in turn led me to get the Boy Scouts Handbook (1911 version) and the American Boy's Handy Book (Centennial Edition). From the latter's foreword: "Before about 1915, boyhood was seen by most grown-ups as a state of natural savagery. A boy of ten or twelve had more in common with wild Indians than he did with his own parents. He probably even had more in common with his dog... That automatically placed him in a state at war with civilization...".

While some things are pretty outmoded now, if not illegal (how to make knives), it also shows useful pastimes like fishing, know-tying, boat-making, traps, etc. There's even an entire chapter devoted to the fine art of Snowball Warfare.

I remember spending all summer running around the woods with slingshot and Girl Scout knife. Great memories!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2014 11:19 AM (QBm1P)

44 The Zebra Murders alone possibly make NOI the bloodiest domestic terrorist group in modern American history. Probably since the first wave KKK.

Some more discussion here:
http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2009/11/zebra-murders.html
and here:
http://tinyurl.com/kpzqpyv - from Discover the Networks

They operated as terrorist cells called Death Angels. Applicants got to be a member by killing 5 white women and 4 white kids, or 9 white men.

Estimates are that, when the mass killings started, there were 15 Death Angels groups. Body count estimated to be almost 300.

All quietly vanished down the memory hole as 300 innocents whites were brutally murdered in the name of black racial supremacy.

This would be taught to every middle schooler if the races had been reversed.

Posted by: Franch Dressing at June 08, 2014 11:21 AM (ZPrif)

45 Re: Brattleboro books -- I've been enjoying some mystery books set in Vermont, occasionally Brattleboro. A lucky discovery browsing in the library. Apparently the author is pretty well liked. He just published the 25th book in the series.

ArcherMayor -dot- com

Posted by: doug at June 08, 2014 11:22 AM (Q8lvS)

46 33 Bit of a personal grump: Why, oh why was it necessary to come out with a companion volume to the "Dangerous Book" aimed at girls? Girls get special encouragement every day of their lives in school, at church, in all the media. There are scholarships and foundations and whole organizations designed to encourage girls and build their confidence.

What do boys get?

So everything for boys MUST have an equivalent for girls, because otherwise would be sexist and hateful. But girls are such special helpless basket cases that they also need huge amounts of girl-only support and resources, which boys don't get because they're boys.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 08, 2014 11:11 AM (zBTgX)


Two women who have written extensively about this problem are Dr. Helen Smith (Instapundit's wife) and Christina Hoff Summers.

http://pjmedia.com/drhelen/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Hoff_Sommers

Posted by: rickl at June 08, 2014 11:22 AM (sdi6R)

47 Larry Correia has an epic 2-part takedown of Damien Walters at his blog:

http://monsterhunternation.com/2014/06/02/fisking-the-guardians-village-idiot-part-1/

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 08, 2014 11:23 AM (zBTgX)

48 Hey, I'm a mormon, gun owning scifi author with a history of right-wing blogging. Where's my lefty lynch mob?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 08, 2014 11:01 AM (Dtd/o)


You are obviously not big enough to be a threat to Scalzi's sales figures. Keep trying.

Posted by: Kindletot at June 08, 2014 11:24 AM (84kIy)

49 ExSnipe, to be mean and vicious I do hope their salvage claw finds live ammo...

http://youtu.be/cJlIAlN9g8s

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 08, 2014 11:24 AM (8QnBQ)

50 I remember spending all summer running around the woods with slingshot and Girl Scout knife. Great memories!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2014 11:19 AM (QBm1P)

Was there a difference between a Girl Scout knife and a Boy Scout knife?

Posted by: ExSnipe at June 08, 2014 11:27 AM (xVYuE)

51 Yes, SciFi has grown up, leaving behind the childish idea that men kill the monsters, provide food and shelter and security to the family.

Now men are safely pacified, food is given to us by our benevolent government officials who care deeply about our happiness, and children are left to fend for themselves, sorry, that should be discover themselves.


and this is called 'progress'.

Posted by: Frad Flatly at June 08, 2014 11:30 AM (3SfoM)

52 40
I should have asked " Is that you or the you you wish you were?".
Anyway, I wish you luck and many five star reviews.

And I agree. Baen can't seem to get Jame right. I don't get it. They got the rathorn and her "kitty" right on the previous covers but Jame looked like fantasy novel street walker.

Posted by: Tuna at June 08, 2014 11:31 AM (7KPIw)

53 to be mean and vicious I do hope their salvage claw finds live ammo...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 08, 2014 11:24 AM (8QnBQ)

Sadly, they probably won't. The Houston was reduced to firing star shells, which did do some nasty killing against the close in Japanese ships.

Posted by: ExSnipe at June 08, 2014 11:32 AM (xVYuE)

54 This week I listened to John Ringo's 'Live Free or Die: Troy Rising, Book 1', first of a scifi trilogy. Aliens have arrived in our solar system and one is hostile and now controls the Earth. It's one man's story to fight back against the aliens, and surprisingly starts out as a comedy, before settling down into a hard-scifi tale filled with lasers and space ships. I enjoyed it quite a lot and will move on with the sequel.

Ringo puts a number of speeches in the mouth of his main character attacking liberals, and predictably many of them gave it a one-star review on Goodreads.

Posted by: waelse1 at June 08, 2014 11:32 AM (x+P8L)

55 Was there a difference between a Girl Scout knife and a Boy Scout knife?

It buttons on the other side.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 08, 2014 11:32 AM (N/cFh)

56 Was there a difference between a Girl Scout knife and a Boy Scout knife?
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One's an innie, the other's an outie?

Posted by: Franch Dressing at June 08, 2014 11:33 AM (ZPrif)

57 Currently reading the brand-new book by Andrew McCarthy, "Faithless Execution: Building the Political Case for Obama's Impeachment."

McCarthy's one of the smartest guys out there. Anything he writes has always been worth reading, but in the last few years, I've noticed he's mincing fewer and fewer words, and his writing style has only become more and more engaging. Along with being informative, the book is a page-turner!

McCarthy knows that if it were strictly a legal matter -- i.e., proving that Obama has violated the law on multiple and serious counts -- Obama would be out of office tomorrow. But it's a political matter. And that's why no U.S. president has ever been convicted and removed following impeachment; there was never sufficient political will. This book is McCarthy's effort to help generate the needed political will. His motivation for writing the book is his considered opinion that if we don't, America really may not survive the next 2-1/2 years -- at least, not as America.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at June 08, 2014 11:33 AM (afLO3)

58 I've read a book or two on The Peoples' Temple. It's been awhile so I can't come up with the titles. It looks like "Raven" may be the definitive book. It is helpful to see how madness develops.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 08, 2014 11:34 AM (Lqy/e)

59 I third the recommendation of The American Boys Handy Book. I borrowed and then was given a copy when I was a kid. Lost it over the years and bought another copy while filing out my library last year. Then found the old copy while visiting my parents'.
So now I have two copies, and they're both good. The weapons section was always my favorite, and I spent hours throwing homemade bolas at trees in my yard.

Even the preface is good: "Unless boys have materially changed their habits in the last few years, it matters little what the preface of this book may contain, for it will be skipped without a passing glance." and indeed, it was. My dad pointed that out to me when he was looking through it, years ago.

Posted by: .87c at June 08, 2014 11:34 AM (DqHEt)

60 It buttons on the other side.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 08, 2014 11:32 AM (N/cFh)

One's an innie, the other's an outie?

Posted by: Franch Dressing at June 08, 2014 11:33 AM (ZPrif)

That figures. Ask a silly question and get serious answers. Damn Horde People!

Posted by: ExSnipe at June 08, 2014 11:38 AM (xVYuE)

61 Hey .87c, wanna sell one of your copies? I have a 9 year old boy, and it sounds perfect.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 08, 2014 11:39 AM (N/cFh)

62 I read a pretty good book this week.

The Girl You Left Behind
JoJo Moyes


about a family in occupied France during WWI, and a painting that resurfaced in the 21st century and was claimed by some shirt-tail relatives as being stolen, and the painting's owner (a young widow whose husband had purchased it on their honeymoon) solving the mystery of its provenance.

It was really interesting and compelling, as long as you don't do any math at the end.

Posted by: HR at June 08, 2014 11:39 AM (hO8IJ)

63 Was there a difference between a Girl Scout knife and a Boy Scout knife?

Posted by: ExSnipe at June 08, 2014 11:27 AM (xVYuE)
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It doubled as a key to the Girl Scout executive washroom.

Nah, it was just GS green and it had the insignia. Just about the only useful thing I got from the whole experience, apart from setting fires in the woods (properly, and with safety first!)

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2014 11:39 AM (QBm1P)

64 Thank you for the good wishes there Tuna.

I know, it seems a bit of Jame's 'luck' plagues any artist who tries to depict her. She is a lean lithe graceful avatar of accidental death and destruction.

Probably my favorite version of a rathorn comes from the first paperback of Dark of the Moon. Hardcover had a wistful seeming Jame with a sword - run for your lives - and Jorin who more resembled a panther.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 08, 2014 11:39 AM (8QnBQ)

65
Someone should write this book:

Where In The World Is Prince Reebus?

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-473 days left) at June 08, 2014 11:40 AM (51dat)

66 on google images,
the girl scout knife is green

the boy's version is brown-dark brown

not available at the girl scout online store, for some reason

Posted by: Frad Flatly at June 08, 2014 11:41 AM (3SfoM)

67
Amnesty and A Hundred More Ways To Destroy Your Political Party

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-473 days left) at June 08, 2014 11:41 AM (51dat)

68 #twominutes

Posted by: Frad Flatly at June 08, 2014 11:42 AM (3SfoM)

69 In the Guardian piece by Walters, he mentions Samuel R. Delaney and his claims of discrimination in the sci-fi community. Starngely enough, I have 3 of his books, purchased when I did not know that he is black and gay. How rude of me that I am neither. I have Triton, Dhalgren, and Stars In My Pocket Like Grains Of Sand (that last title is awesome, doncha think?).

He created worlds, and I stepped into them. I thought that THAT was the point.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 08, 2014 11:43 AM (cHZB7)

70 43
Ah yes. Girl Scout camp. A week in the woods. Sleeping in freezing cold tents, cleaning latrines, slogging around in ankle deep mud when it rained, sitting an poison ivy, and stinking to high heavens by the time my parents picked me up at the end of the week. It didn't occur to me why they drove the hour or so home with all the windows down until I was much older. Ignorance is bliss.

Posted by: Tuna at June 08, 2014 11:43 AM (7KPIw)

71 ... and, possibly, gluten free.

Ah. Clearly, Sabrina Chase has started something of an occasional pastry genre.

I've been working my way through Juliet Chase's "Amy's Amazing Adventures (Across Time and Space)" and can assure those that are worried that it also features the occasional manly stew. Nevertheless, I get the impression that I'm not quite in the target audience, which is more of the young female variety; I struggled to get through the first chapter, but the story picks up nicely once she decides to run away. There are a number of small errors of the sort that can't be caught by a spell checker (we are told, for example, that a significant character is named "St. Abyn St. Abyn", but everyone seems to stick to the shorter "St. Abyn"), including a misplaced "we" that makes me wonder just what those Chase girls have been up to and whether the Bureau of Substandards stuff is straight up documentary autobiography.

Recently finished Terry Pratchett's "Raising Steam". It's just a bit off (Vetinari is uncharacteristically blunt, for example, actually telling people things instead of just giving them meaningful looks and letting them figure it out), but it gets there in the end.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 08, 2014 11:46 AM (o78gS)

72 Posted by: Tuna at June 08, 2014 11:43 AM (7KPIw)



Hey now, it builds character...

Posted by: HH at June 08, 2014 11:46 AM (XXwdv)

73 George McDonald Fraser's memoirs of WWII are some of the most touching writing about the tedium and of hilarity of military service. This period in his life was critical to his later writings. I just re-read The Steel Bonnets: The Story of the Anglo-Scottish Border Reivers recently and his writing brings it all to life. Being married to a descendent of one of the "riding" clans it helped explain some things also.

Posted by: Lester at June 08, 2014 11:47 AM (2UPXV)

74 Samuel R. Delaney could sure as hell title a story.

We, in Some Strange Power's Employ, Move on A Rigorous Line

Time Considered as a Helix of Semi-Precious Stones

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 08, 2014 11:47 AM (xq1UY)

75 I recently re-read "The Old Regime and the Revolution" by Alexis de Tocqueville.

Thanks, * Hat, that led me to a Google Books copy of it. It's kind of eerie.

A quote from the preface: "...and thus it may be strictly said that one's love for despotism is in exact proportion to one's contempt for one's country."

Racist!

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2014 11:47 AM (FcR7P)

76 In the Guardian piece by Walters, he mentions Samuel R. Delaney and his claims of discrimination in the sci-fi community

Yeah, I've read a ton of stuff by Delaney. Never knew his skin color until Walter brought it up. After all this time, what difference does it make?

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 08, 2014 11:48 AM (fTJ5O)

77 Blue booties

Posted by: S. Muldoon, lies, damned lies and that other thing at June 08, 2014 11:48 AM (NeFrd)

78 Just for laughs, you MUST read the Fisks of Walter's article by Larry Correia and Wright. Both are complete curbstompings of the Guardian's Village Idiot.

Of course, Prograts should know by now that engaging a guy who deliberately writes Libertarian Gun Toting heroes is probably going to get them Nuked From Orbit. But it's fun to watch them try.

Currently reading Glen Cook's latest in the "Instrumentalities of the Night" series, called "Working God's Mischief." If you loved the Black Company, you know what the hero is. But it would be unfair to call this that. It's has all the black soldier's humor of BC. But it's far wider in scope, closer to a true epic fantasy. Though one set in a world full of not-truly-veiled references to Late Medeival/Renaissance Mediterranean geography and history (compressing 500 years into 10 as he goes).

It *is* a series, and the new book drops you right in the middle of an action scene that's a cliffhanger from the previous "Surrender to the Will of the Night." I'm enjoying it, but Cook is like Steven Erikson, in that you're either going to love him or hate him. If you can find the beginning book, "The Tyranny of the Night," I'd suggest reading a few chapters and deciding.

Posted by: Shawn at June 08, 2014 11:50 AM (/lltO)

79 72 Posted by: Tuna at June 08, 2014 11:43 AM (7KPIw)



Hey now, it builds character...


Posted by: HH at June 08, 2014 11:46 AM (XXwdv)

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The two weeks tramping around (hey now!) in the forest, hiking, swimming, and singing around campfires was the only good thing about Girl Sprouts IMHO. The rest of the time it was cheezy crafts, pimping cookies, and Hug The Planet shit. I only lasted a couple years. Is it any better these days?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2014 11:50 AM (QBm1P)

80 I was reading "The Library: A World History" when this caught the attention of my inner sniggering schoolkid:

"According to an ancient Japanese source, revolving sutra stores were invented by a celebrated Chinese layman, Fu Hsi (AD 497-569), Fu Kiu in Japanese."

Fu Kiu?

Ho Lee Fuk.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at June 08, 2014 11:50 AM (kALIL)

81 72
Yes it does and I remember it fondly.

Posted by: Tuna at June 08, 2014 11:50 AM (7KPIw)

82 Ah yes. Girl Scout camp. A week in the woods. Sleeping in freezing cold tents, cleaning latrines, slogging around in ankle deep mud when it rained, sitting an poison ivy, and stinking to high heavens by the time my parents picked me up at the end of the week. It didn't occur to me why they drove the hour or so home with all the windows down until I was much older. Ignorance is bliss.
Posted by: Tuna at June 08, 2014 11:43 AM (7KPIw)


Yeah, but think of all the fun you had.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 08, 2014 11:51 AM (fTJ5O)

83 Posted by: Anachronda at June 08, 2014 11:46 AM (o78gS)

Read a rather negative review elsewhere of Raising Steam, but it sounds like it wasn't quite that bad. I may have to read it after all.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 08, 2014 11:51 AM (o3MSL)

84 Posted by: Lester at June 08, 2014 11:47 AM (2UPXV)

Good book. Some of my ancestors were Border Reivers also, the Maxwell Clan. While the Highlanders were stomping around showing the lastest fashions of Kilts, they were fighting the English, and other Lowland Clans.

Posted by: ExSnipe at June 08, 2014 11:52 AM (xVYuE)

85 Hello mudda, hello fadda
Here I am at Camp Grenada
Life is very entertaining
And they say we'll have some fun if it stops raining.

Posted by: Allan Sherman at June 08, 2014 11:54 AM (fTJ5O)

86 i wasn't a girl scout....but i got to go to camp one year with my friends that were......i remember getting a collapsable pink cup....i had serveral nightmares that my fingers had become collapsable like the cup.....it was truly disturbing

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 08, 2014 11:55 AM (u8GsB)

87 OT:

Both Pale Moon and Firefox wanted to update this morning, after which both quit working. I'm on Chrome now, which I generally hate.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 08, 2014 11:55 AM (PEb5B)

88 the Girl Scout knife wants you to talk to it after you use it

Posted by: doug the head at June 08, 2014 11:57 AM (8CdUx)

89 Finally got around to reading Michael Connelly's "The Gods of Guilt". Pretty good read, but I must have missed one or two books in the series because he keeps referencing things from his past that I don't remember from previous readings. Guess I'll have to hit the book store again.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 08, 2014 11:58 AM (o3MSL)

90 About the Zebra murders... no, I never heard of them, and I have read extensively on serial killers.

I guess they don't quite fit the category. At least in the sense that they appear to be political, as opposed to most serial killings, which generally fall into one of two categories: the wild lunatic opportunistic types, and the cold, calculating stalking prey types.

Still, I would have thought I would have seen a mention of them before now. It's strange that I haven't.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 08, 2014 11:58 AM (PEb5B)

91 50 I remember spending all summer running around the woods with a Girl Scout. Great memories!

SFWA went full progfascist years ago, fuck 'em.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at June 08, 2014 11:58 AM (W7zKe)

92 I have Triton, Dhalgren, and Stars In My Pocket Like Grains Of Sand (that last title is awesome, doncha think?).

He created worlds, and I stepped into them. I thought that THAT was the point.


Posted by: GnuBreed at June 08, 014 11:43 AM (cHZB7)
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They're all awesome. Time to reread, methinks.

And what racism?! His books were widely huzzahed and had prime real estate on the bookshelves. I never knew he was black and gay, because like most (if not the vast majority) of SF readers, I never wasted a thought on the demographics of SF authors. Hell, I wasn't even sure of their gender some of the time (Marion, C.J., James, I'm lookin' at you).

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2014 11:59 AM (QBm1P)

93 To the four who have bought my short story collection today, thank you so much!

I guess I better get back to the word smithing and crank out the next story.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 08, 2014 12:00 PM (8QnBQ)

94 Have any fellow morons or ettes read "The Camp of the Saints"?

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I read it many years ago during the time when the Vietnamese boat people were taking to the sea to avoid the joys of socialism. I don't remember much about it other than that I liked it. I remember one scene in which a ship's captain runs down a number of refugee boats and is first demonized for it and later seen much more positively.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 08, 2014 12:00 PM (Mogjf)

95 Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2014 11:59 AM (QBm1P)

One of the signs of decay is when you can no longer figure out what's politically correct today!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 08, 2014 12:00 PM (o3MSL)

96 This week I read The Known World, by Edward P Jones, which won the Pulitzer Prize in 2004. The novel is set in pre-Civil War Virginia and focuses on Henry Townsend, a black farmer/shoemaker and former slave who becomes a slave owner himself. The novel shows how complex the relationships were among slaves, slave owners, free persons of color, and whites who lived in the but objected to slavery. I didn't think I would like the book, but I found it completely absorbing. A few of the characters were plain evil, a few were noble and good, but most - black and white - fell somewhere in between. A good book - well worth reading.

Posted by: biancaneve at June 08, 2014 12:01 PM (2sR50)

97 The Girl Scout knife only cuts itself, and whines in angst.


/idenouncemyself



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 08, 2014 12:01 PM (vvk2F)

98 79
There was no hug the planet shit when I was a Scout. Wood got chopped and burned, snakes got killed and dissected, first aid and life saving lessons, hikes, swimming, lanyards got woven, etc. Yes, we did make the occasional Popsicle stick structure and sell cookies but the future feminist stuff was not a prt of the program back then.

Posted by: Tuna at June 08, 2014 12:01 PM (7KPIw)

99 Return to Camp Grenada (little known sequel):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DaBiZkhI8A

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 08, 2014 12:01 PM (fTJ5O)

100 Posted by: Hrothgar at June 08, 2014 11:58 AM (o3MSL)

Michael Connelly's series about LAPD detective Harry Bosch are good who done its.

Posted by: ExSnipe at June 08, 2014 12:05 PM (xVYuE)

101 82
Oh I did. Butt covered in poison ivy and all.

Posted by: Tuna at June 08, 2014 12:07 PM (7KPIw)

102 Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2014 11:59 AM (QBm1P)


I re-read Dhalgren a number of years ago. Interesting stuff that I had missed when I first read it as a lad.


The gay sex does stand out. Something that I originally had never noticed.

Posted by: HH at June 08, 2014 12:07 PM (XXwdv)

103 Samuel R. Delany, who never made a secret of being gay/bi, managed to publish his first novel at age 20, won his first Nebula at age 25, and got both a Hugo and a Nebula the following year.

If that's a career blighted by prejudice and racism, sign me up.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 08, 2014 12:08 PM (zBTgX)

104 Per a friend:

"George R. R. Martin has now been paid the ultimate compliment: His books now have a porno version 'This Ain't the Game of Thrones'"

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at June 08, 2014 12:09 PM (W7zKe)

105 83
]i]Posted by: Anachronda at June 08, 2014 11:46 AM (o78gS)



Read a rather negative review elsewhere of Raising Steam, but it
sounds like it wasn't quite that bad. I may have to read it after all.

My buddy in Reno hated it and gave up on it, so he would have missed it getting there in the end. I haven't looked at the reviews. I was worried about it quite a ways in, but ended up happy that I was stubborn.


Posted by: Anachronda at June 08, 2014 12:10 PM (o78gS)

106 thought I would have seen a mention of them before now. It's strange that I haven't.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 08, 2014 11:58 AM (PEb5B)


While the murders were happening, the local paper played it up as a sensational crime story on the front page: "City in Fear", etc, with stories of how few people were on the streets of San Fran in the evenings---( most victims were shot on the sidewalks )

I remember reading about Asian as well as White victims, which gave The Chronic an opportunity to avoid The Obvious. Several people were shot one evening coming out of and inside of a laundromat operated by Chinese. Apparently the killers would shoot Asians if no Whites were handy


once The Usual Suspects realized who the killers were ( and their Kill Whitey motive ) the whole story, with dozens of victims, went into the PC Black Hole of 'this either didn't really happen or isn't really what you know it is"

Posted by: doug the head at June 08, 2014 12:10 PM (8CdUx)

107 Via boingboing -dot- net --

"Dystopia Tracker collects the "predictions"* of science fictional dystopias and examines the ways in which they've come true. You can add your own, or suggest ways in which they've come to pass.

"Science fiction doesn't really predict anything except the present. Even sf writers who think they're predicting the future are (like all of us) so mired in the technological fears and hopes of the day that their work ends up telling you more about that than any future."

From the DT site: "Welcome to the Dystopia Tracker. Our goal is to document, with your help, all the predictions in literature, film or games that have been made for the future and what has become reality already. You can browse predictions by topic or search for a specific title. We also invite you to contribute your own content. Add predictions that are missing, add realisations for predictions that have become reality in some way, or help translating existing content."

Linky -- http://goo.gl/fJTwLV

Posted by: doug at June 08, 2014 12:12 PM (Q8lvS)

108 Posted by: BurtTC at June 08, 2014 11:55 AM (PEb5B)

Thanks for the warning -- I just turned off FF auto updates, something I've been meaning to do anyways.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 08, 2014 12:12 PM (cHZB7)

109 I remember reading about Asian as well as White victims, which gave The Chronic an opportunity to avoid The Obvious.

Also, one of the victims was an Arab grocery-store owner, so there's that, too.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 08, 2014 12:14 PM (fTJ5O)

110 I finished "Uncle Tom's Cabin."

Wow! No study of the American Civil War is complete without reading it.

Clearly the "Fugitive Slave Act" of 1850 was one of the targets of the book.

Without retelling the story and spoiling the ending, holy moley Liberia?

All the blacks wanted education, huh? Were that only true.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 08, 2014 12:16 PM (V70Uh)

111 All quietly vanished down the memory hole as 300 innocents whites were brutally murdered in the name of black racial supremacy.

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Well, it wasn't a big deal like Trayvon Martin.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at June 08, 2014 12:19 PM (Mogjf)

112 Posted by: HH at June 08, 2014 12:07 PM (XXwdv)
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I have a copy of Delany's 1976 novel, Trouble on Triton, sitting unread on my shelf. The back blurb promises a "future comedy of manners, allowing Delany to question gender roles and sexual expectations.."

Hey, Mother Jones gave it a rave!

He has a deft hand and a sense of humor, so I may give it a spin shortly. This was from a time when experimental gender-bending SF was a little more fluid and less whiny. Even Joanna Russ was good for a laff.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2014 12:21 PM (QBm1P)

113 Still, I would have thought I would have seen a mention of them before now. It's strange that I haven't.

Well, there's multiple perps involved, not just one lone wacko, which I suppose is usual. Plus, there really isn't anything mysterious about it any longer, no lingering questions like with Zodiac or Jack the Ripper, we basically know who did it, why they did it, and what happened to them.

BUT...

If in 1973, the KKK or some other white supremacy group started randomly murdering blacks, and awarding status points to those members who did so, the history of those murders would now be extensively taught in every primary, middle, and high school in America.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 08, 2014 12:21 PM (fTJ5O)

114 Was the shop keeper a White Arab?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at June 08, 2014 12:21 PM (W7zKe)

115 A few years back I read A Void, by Georges Perec. It was written in French in 1969 as La Dispiration and wasn't translated into English until 1994. Why did it take so long to translate? Because the entire novel is written without the letter 'e'. It's a mystery of sorts about the disappearance of Anton Vowl, and along the way his friends are given clues in the form of famous poems or literary snippets.

Here is the start of Hamlet's soliloquy:

Living or not living: that is what I ask:
If 'tis a stamp of honor to submit
To slings and arrows wafted us by ill winds;
Or brandish arms against a flood of afflictions,
Which by our suppression is subdu'd?

And my favorite, the opening stanza of Poe's Black Bird:

'Twas upon a midnight tristful I sat poring, wan and wistful,
Through many a quaint and curious list full of my consorts slain -
I sat nodding, almost napping, till I caught a sound of tapping,
As of spirits softly rapping, rapping at my door in vain.
" 'Tis a visitor," I murmur'd, "tapping at my door in vain -
Tapping soft as falling rain."

And here's another stanza, later in the poem:

Now my room was growing fragrant, its aroma almost flagrant,
As from spirits wafting vagrant through my dolorous domain
"Good-for-nought," I said, "God sought you - from Plutonian strands God brought you -
And, I know not why, God taught you all about my unjoin'd chain,
All about that linking symbol missing from my unjoin'd chain!"
Quoth that Black Bird, "Not Again."

And now, whenever I think about Edgar Allen Poe, I always think to myself, "Quoth that Black Bird, 'Not Again.' "

Posted by: biancaneve at June 08, 2014 12:23 PM (2sR50)

116 The trouble with Michael Connolly is I got tired of the perp always being a murdering pederast.

I got but haven't started Andrew Klavan's "A Killer in the Wind."


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 08, 2014 12:25 PM (V70Uh)

117
Add to your list of oppressions "genre shaming". Bouncing around the internet this week was the hue and whine over a Slate article taking to task grown-ups who read young adult fiction:

Slate - Against YA

Read whatever you want. But you should feel embarrassed when what youre reading was written for children.

"I do not begrudge young adults themselves their renaissance of fiction. I want teenagers and ambitious pre-teens to have as many wonderful books to read as possible, including books about their own lives. But I remember, when I was a young adult, being desperate to earn my way into the adult stacks; I wouldnt have wanted to live in a world where all the adults were camped out in mine. Theres a special reward in that feeling of stretching yourself beyond the YA mark, akin to the excitement of graduating out of the kiddie pool and the rest of the padded trappings of childhood: Its the thrill of growing up."

Slate article: http://tinyurl.com/opvzlut
IO9 response: http://tinyurl.com/qabf3d4

Personally, not entirely unsympathetic to this viewpoint, putting away childish things and all that. Revisiting your youth is one thing, staying there is something else.

Also consider, you could extend this to non-fiction books, and an adult still reading books from the "x shelfs" instead of the adult stacks would be -- rather sad.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 08, 2014 12:26 PM (kdS6q)

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I'm reading "Blood Meridian" by Cormac McCarthy. Had to actually go back a couple of chapters twice because it is so violent I found myself skipping bits mentally.
I read Orson Scott Card's "The Gate Thief" because I'm still trying to find something of his as good as "Ender's Game" but TGT turned out to be of an adolescent genre very much like some of Heinein's stuff where the the lead character wanders into an endless internal dialogue and loses the reader and the plot. I finished it and don't care what happens next to any of the characters.
"Bears Discover Fire" by Terry Bisson was in a collection of scifi shorts. I loved that story though not sure it is scifi at all.
Looking for Anna Puma's collection. I don't care for most of that genre but love her commenting style.

Posted by: Daybrother at June 08, 2014 12:26 PM (fzEVZ)

119 Lets not have any of that murdering pederasts...

Posted by: Hairy Reed at June 08, 2014 12:26 PM (W7zKe)

120 till I caught the sound of fapping?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 08, 2014 12:27 PM (V70Uh)

121 The trouble with Michael Connolly is I got tired of the perp always being a murdering pederast.

And what's wrong with murdering pederasts?

Posted by: Hairy Reed at June 08, 2014 12:29 PM (fTJ5O)

122 I only got 3 books in the mail today.

1.) The Bible..I'm reading it now. The Nephilim nterest me and I have a question about that for later.

2.) Tibetan book of the Dead..I'm saving that for later.

3.) The Koran.. I pissed all over that one, dried it, fried up some bacon, dripped the grease on it and Burnt it.

I then buried it at sea, like Osama.

Put the ashes in the toilet, shit and pissed on it and flushed it.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at June 08, 2014 12:32 PM (AsNwg)

123 I only got 3 books in the mail today.

1.) The Bible..I'm reading it now. The Nephilim nterest me and I have a question about that for later.

2.) Tibetan book of the Dead..I'm saving that for later.

3.) The Koran.. I pissed all over that one, dried it, fried up some bacon, dripped the grease on it and Burnt it.

I then buried it at sea, like Osama.

Put the ashes in the toilet, shit and pissed on it and flushed it.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at June 08, 2014 12:32 PM (AsNwg)

124 What do you keep on your nightstand for either a quick relax before sleep or a middle of the night wake up?

I have a copy of Monty Python: All The Words, Asimov on Shakespeare, and whatever I am working on at the moment.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at June 08, 2014 12:32 PM (W7zKe)

125 The Girl Scout knife costs $2.50 more to dry clean.

Posted by: Zoltan at June 08, 2014 12:34 PM (khFRP)

126 @115 It's French, so "grammar-nazi" is to be presumed.
I couldn't help but notice several "e"s in there.
I know, "E"nglish is different, but why the great trick of translation, when That Letter is going to show up anyway?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 08, 2014 12:34 PM (xq1UY)

127 3.) The Koran.. I pissed all over that one, dried it, fried up some bacon, dripped the grease on it and Burnt it.
I then buried it at sea, like Osama.
Put the ashes in the toilet, shit and pissed on it and flushed it.


Stop holding back. Tell us how you really feel.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 08, 2014 12:35 PM (fTJ5O)

128 113 -

It is interesting how some "serial" killers become famous and others don't. As you say, there are those that remain mysteries, but a good explanation as to why some do and some don't is probably found in location.

Everyone has heard of Son of Sam. Why? New York.

Ramirez is well known, as is Bundy. Once you get beyond that (along with Zodiac), and most people cannot name another famous serial killer (of modern times).

Posted by: BurtTC at June 08, 2014 12:37 PM (PEb5B)

129 @126 - Look again - there are no 'e's in the translation. The translator took liberties with the rewritten poems and used an ' to replace an e, but the rest of the translation avoids the letter 'e'.

Posted by: biancaneve at June 08, 2014 12:37 PM (2sR50)

130 114 -

According to Wiki he was Jordanian, so probably not.

It is worth noting when you get to racial strife, from the AA side of it, there is a good deal of dislike for "ethnic" shopkeepers in their neighborhoods.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 08, 2014 12:38 PM (PEb5B)

131 This one's for Captain Hate, and also OregonMuse et al. Edward Gibbon made reference to it, as footnote to his celebrated alt-history about what if the Saracens had crossed the Channel.

https://archive.org/stream/comparisonofmaho00whit

This is Joseph White's A Comparison of Mahometism and Christianity in their history, their evidence, and their effects; 'sermons preached before the University of Oxford, in the year 1784'.

Specifically they were among that year's Bampton lectures; which are still going on in the university, although I doubt something like these would be heard there today.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 08, 2014 12:39 PM (3kZUM)

132 104 -

Porno version of GoT? I'll take "things that are redundant for $500, Alex."

Posted by: BurtTC at June 08, 2014 12:41 PM (PEb5B)

133
To raise money for the Wild Spirit Wolf Sanctuary in New Mexico, George RR Martin is offering Game of Thrones prizes and rewards in return for fans donations to the organisation.

The top prize comes for those who give £20,000. For that, you will have the opportunity to be a character in the next A Song of Ice and Fire novel, and then killed off in a "grisly" way.

http://tinyurl.com/k5k8y5n

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 08, 2014 12:43 PM (kdS6q)

134 @129 OK I looked again.

To slings and arrows wafted us by ill winds;

Or brandish arms against a flood of afflictions,

Which by our suppression is subdu'd?


Them's e's, my brother.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 08, 2014 12:43 PM (xq1UY)

135 Yeah, I heard there was a porn version of "Deep Throat" too.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 08, 2014 12:43 PM (3kZUM)

136 16
Decided to read some of the earlier C. J. Box "Joe Pickett" books.
About 3/4 of the way through "Free Fire" (2007). Highly recommended.
Good article - http://goo.gl/1zUNcJ

*

I am doing the same thing after picking up a few of the older ones used. I also picked up Blue Heaven by Box (completely different set of characters) and really recommend it.

Posted by: Charlotte at June 08, 2014 12:56 PM (LNOZz)

137 Game of Moans?

Posted by: Moron in a Hawaiian Shirt at June 08, 2014 01:04 PM (Ks4nX)

138 137
Game of Moans?

You risk starting a meme of groans.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 08, 2014 01:07 PM (o78gS)

139 Thanks for keeping my obsessions interests in mind, bt'h.

Posted by: Captain Hate on an iPad at June 08, 2014 01:12 PM (/W6+a)

140 I urge every moron to read "The Camp of the Saints" and think about how we are handling our southern border. There may be a message in the book for us...

Posted by: Ben Ghazi at June 08, 2014 01:12 PM (IIKmF)

141 To raise money for the Wild Spirit Wolf Sanctuary in New Mexico, George RR Martin is offering Game of Thrones prizes and rewards in return for fans donations to the organisation.

http://tinyurl.com/k5k8y5n


It figures. He looks like he would wear a Three Wolf Moon t-shirt.

Saw an interview with him recently, which I watched out of morbid curiosity. He sounds like Peter Ustinov doing a Charles Laughton impression. And such a thing does exist for objective comparison, by the way.

Posted by: CQD at June 08, 2014 01:26 PM (TBxjE)

142 Oh yeah, the Poe rap reminded me -- if you like the freakier, playful side of Rudy Rucker ( Flek and the Elixer) and not the bitter (everything else), you might enjoy "The Hollow Earth: The Narrative of Mason Algiers Reynolds of Virginia", a young lad's antebellum adventures to the South Pole and up into the hollow earth, accompanied by his slave Otho and Edgar Allen Poe. Written in that grandiloquent 19th century style with authentically dense and impenetrable dialects. I'm only halfway in, so if it tanks I apologize.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 08, 2014 01:49 PM (QBm1P)

143 Since I am still sitting at home on medical leave, I have had the chance to catch up on my reading. Read Steven Pressfield's "The Last Amazon" and "The Profession" this past week. Both very good reads. I also read "The Good Son" by Michael Gruber. That was pretty good as well, but the focus on Jungian type psychotherapy was kind of hard to follow at times.

I also recommend Gerald Seymour's "Rat Run", and "The Dealer and the Dead". Both very good reads.

Posted by: DaveinNC at June 08, 2014 02:08 PM (/NgNT)

144 142
if you like the freakier, playful
side of Rudy Rucker ( Flek and the Elixer) and not the bitter
(everything else)


You don't like to bop?

Posted by: Anachronda at June 08, 2014 02:23 PM (o78gS)

145 If you're an author, reading bad books is good for you, as well as good. Reading something that isn't written well teaches you what not to do and how to avoid it sometimes better than reading what's done well. Those parts that make you cringe and groan and think "why didn't they..." are impressing on an author what to avoid in their own work.

Incidentally, the Koran is worth a read, or at least a scan, to see what it actually says and how its laid out. Its mostly derivative from the Bible in the first part, orders on how to conquer and defeat the unbeliever in the second, and rules on how to live heavily tilted toward how awful women are and how they need to be controlled in the third.

It follows Muhammad's career as a conqueror: stage one he's trying to get converts so its about repentance and the corruption of the world that people must flee. Stage two he's defeating enemies through war and conquering, and stage three he's settled and telling how to run this new society with 50 wives he has to try to deal with. In a way its kind of funny, if it didn't have such awful consequences.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2014 02:24 PM (zfY+H)

146 You can read the Introduction to "The Decline and Fall of IBM" by Robert X. Cringely online for free. (This is the original Cringely -- see Wikipedia.) Full e-book costs $3.99. 293 pages.

Intro rings true with me, although it has been a while since I worked there. Good reviews on Amazon. I put it on my Amazon wish list.

Link to free Intro - http://goo.gl/vLdl8H

Posted by: doug at June 08, 2014 02:25 PM (Q8lvS)

147 Just read Joel Kotkin's excellent piece from the Daily Beast as noted in the side bar. Wow. And then I read some of the comments after the piece. Mind numbing. Nearly every one makes his point--but they have their heads so far up their own ass, they don't see it. I know, this isn't about Books, but Kotkin discusses the intellectual and artistic elite, so it's okay....

Posted by: JoeyBagels at June 08, 2014 02:54 PM (cv3yI)

148 I reread Len Deighton's London Match yesterday. Part of a series. Most of his books are really good, but he went off the rails with "Goodbye Mickey Mouse" and one or two others, recently.

Posted by: Bill ,sometimes bill from canada at June 08, 2014 03:11 PM (XP0Il)

149 Posted by: Sister Sestina at June 08, 2014 11:50 AM (kALIL)

If I may, The Library: A World History by Campbell and Pryce? I was thinking of buying it as a gift and I was curious about the text -- informative? Could you comment on the book. Thanks.

I stopped and laughed at your "find". The person I am thinking of buying it for named her rescue dog Fiona Ursula Catherine(of Sienna)King.

King being the surname. If I get it, I will include your find as you seem to share a similar inner sniggering schoolkid as well as a love of books. She, a former English teacher and nun, with a sense of humor.

Posted by: gracepmc at June 08, 2014 03:23 PM (rznx3)

150 If you're an author, reading bad books is good for you, as well as good. Reading something that isn't written well teaches you what not to do and how to avoid it sometimes better than reading what's done well. Those parts that make you cringe and groan and think "why didn't they..." are impressing on an author what to avoid in their own work.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2014 02:24 PM (zfY+H)


That can be true as long as the would-be author already has a firm grounding in first principles and knows enough not to be led astray. Otherwise, hilarity and disaster may ensue. The two best books on writing, in my opinion, are Elements of Style by Strunk White, and On Writing, by Stephen King.

Posted by: CQD at June 08, 2014 03:25 PM (TBxjE)

151 Late again...Currently reading "Desperate," by Daniel Palmer. If you've ever seen the old "Pacific Heights" movie with Michael Keaton as the renter from hell, this is similar except that a couple who have been through the emotional wringer have met a beautiful, pregnant young waif who says she'll give them her baby in exchange for room and board until the kid is born. She's always giving the husband smirks and evil stares -- that, of course, his wife never sees.

Not my usual genre, but itIS hardto put down.

Posted by: RushBabe at June 08, 2014 03:45 PM (hrIP5)

152 I'm current reading the Hugo nominated Equoid by Charles Stross which so far mainly has an annoyingly bombastic narrator/protagonist who has spent the first tenth of this Lovecraft inspired story ragging on Lovecraft.

I recently finished reading the Hugo nominated Wakulla Springs by Andy Duncan and Ellen Klages. Good story, well written, but is historical fiction. There is nothing wrong with historical fiction but the Hugo is a science fiction (and fantasy) award.

And before that I read the Hugo nominated (noticing a theme here?) "The Butcher of Khardov" which is an excellent dark fantasy story. It's short but author Dan Wells crams a lot of story into those pages.

Posted by: BornLib at June 08, 2014 04:35 PM (zpNwC)

153
The Library: A World History by Campbell and Pryce? I was thinking of buying it as a gift and I was curious about the text -- informative?
Posted by: gracepmc



I own the book. There is a pdf extract with sample pages on the publisher's website.

http://tinyurl.com/n4ej2d9

I found the book informative and absoluting freaking gorgeous.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 08, 2014 05:24 PM (kdS6q)

154 Thanks for this. I had no doubt it would be gorgeous but for this friend it was important that there be interesting and informative text beyond a discussion of physical architecture. The link with the sample pages were really helpful with this.

I know I would love it. Now it's a matter of determining whether it's a good fit for her.

I have some other books on libraries. Fascinated with them. This one looks special. Thanks.

Posted by: gracepmc at June 08, 2014 05:38 PM (rznx3)

155 54 This week I listened to John Ringo's 'Live Free or Die: Troy Rising, Book 1', first of a scifi trilogy. Aliens have arrived in our solar system and one is hostile and now controls the Earth. It's one man's story to fight back against the aliens, and surprisingly starts out as a comedy, before settling down into a hard-scifi tale filled with lasers and space ships. I enjoyed it quite a lot and will move on with the sequel.

Ringo puts a number of speeches in the mouth of his main character attacking liberals, and predictably many of them gave it a one-star review on Goodreads.
Posted by: waelse1 at June 08, 2014 11:32 AM (x+P8L)

I love Ringo's Troy Rising series. I think the second book is my favorite out of the three he's written so far.

Posted by: BornLib at June 08, 2014 05:48 PM (zpNwC)

156 I'm current reading the Hugo nominated Equoid by Charles Stross

These days, the Hugo is a joke.

Stross isn't a joke - he's a tragedy. I've read Stross's earlier Lovecraft-inspired work; it was great. I am disappointed that he's now decided to bring in Lovecraft's politics.

I take it we can now expect every Lovecraft pastiche from now on, by Stross and everyone else, to incorporate denunciations of Lovecraft himself. I am also looking forward to all future fantasy epics to enlighten us about how wicked Tolkien was as well.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 08, 2014 06:07 PM (3kZUM)

157 Stross isn't a joke - he's a tragedy. I've read Stross's earlier Lovecraft-inspired work; it was great. I am disappointed that he's now decided to bring in Lovecraft's politics.

I take it we can now expect every Lovecraft pastiche from now on, by Stross and everyone else, to incorporate denunciations of Lovecraft himself. I am also looking forward to all future fantasy epics to enlighten us about how wicked Tolkien was as well.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 08, 2014 06:07 PM (3kZUM)

He isn't ragging on Lovecraft's politics, whatever they were. He's ragging on Lovecraft as an author.

Posted by: BornLib at June 08, 2014 06:13 PM (zpNwC)

158 For the next President* Obama auto-biography, I am getting my royalty arrangement in writing.

Posted by: Billy Ayers at June 08, 2014 06:56 PM (e6TyM)

159 Hi, 'rons and 'ronettes! Back from a round in the book-selling barrel, at the observation of the 170th anniversary of Jack Hays' Big Fight! It was awesome; it started out clouded over and pouring buckets of rain, but it began to clear about the time that the event officially opened - and it was bountifully crowded with Texas Ranger enthusiasts, retired Rangers, re-enactor Rangers and all ... walking around with guns! Guns on display everywhere, books about guns, and plenty of black-powder shooting! Y'all would have loved it!
And - a first for me; the very first time I have ever been introduced to a male Texan who tipped his hat and said "Howdy, Ma'am."
Well, you had to be there.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at June 08, 2014 07:08 PM (Asjr7)

160 BornLib: thanks for clearing that up. I'd assumed politics given Stross's *own* declared politics:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/03/charles-stross-on-hugos-debacle.html

I do insist, though, that Stross wouldn't be spending *quite* so much effort backbiting Lovecraft's writing abilities (which I'd class as 'uneven' myself) if it weren't for the political angle.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 08, 2014 07:41 PM (3kZUM)

161 160 BornLib: thanks for clearing that up. I'd assumed politics given Stross's *own* declared politics
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 08, 2014 07:41 PM (3kZUM)

It looks like I just hadn't read far enough. He's throwing around politics in the story now like nobody's business.

Posted by: BornLib at June 08, 2014 08:16 PM (zpNwC)

162 Right now the Kindle version of Equoid is free.

About the only thing that would make me run faster from an author than something called Squeecast would be if it was called Yiffcast.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 08, 2014 08:36 PM (8QnBQ)

163 Stross has been doing Lovecraft-inspired stories for over a decade and just recently noticed the guy was a bit wacky? But then, Stross is somebody who think the NHS is one of humanity's greatest achievements.

It meant losing the core of my social life but I don't regret getting away from fandom. There was a sickness running through that was only making me more accepting of my flaws rather than trying to do something about them.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 08, 2014 08:48 PM (Icq+V)

164 I just recently read 'Feed' and hadn't any previous familiarity with Seanan McGuire under any name. I have to wonder if she has considered that the heroes of her story would regard her with contempt, both for her fear of someone mentioning she has gotten rather hefty and for being so, as it would be a severe liability in a zombie outbreak.

I find myself noticing for the second time today that while I myself am not religious I have little patience for those are jerks about it. One of the notable aspects of 'Feed' is that all of the villains have in common an overt religious faith. Not the same religion, just religion in general.

Posted by: Epobirs at June 08, 2014 08:57 PM (Icq+V)

165
Charles Stross re: Thomas Piketty

Should we encourage the custodians of the shitpiles of capital that are damaging our global social fabric to atone for their sins by offering them huge long-term investment opportunities in colonizing Venus and rolling out commercial thermonuclear fusion reactors? (Both worthy(ish) projects that demand a fuckton of money and time which, in our current circumstances, the shrunken machinery of government simply can't afford.) Or should we try and take their hoards away via some other means?

http://tinyurl.com/ldcwn5o



"The shrunken machinery of government......"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 08, 2014 09:04 PM (kdS6q)

166 "But is it possible to persuade them to do something useful with their capital? (And by "persuade" I mean hold a gun to their head: compulsory nationalization and redistribution without compensation"

So Stross doesn't even try to pretend he isn't a fascist.

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