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Ooof: Trump Says His Immigration Policy Was Too Tough, Seeks Some Kind of... Comprehensive Reform
On one hand, I expected a softening. I floated the idea that if Trump had softened on the immigration raids the summer before the election, the GOP might have done a little better. (Emphases on "might" and "a little.")
And who knows: This may be necessary to stop the Democrats from winning it all in 2028 and packing the country floor to rafters with immigrants (and immediately giving them full voting rights). But on the other hand: this is a disaster. I guess it depends on how serious Trump is about this.Calling this a reversal is a pretty big understatement. Aside from tariffs, there has been no more consistent policy position in the Trump administration than "deport them all," and now Trump is suggesting that he can work with the Democrats on an amnesty bill that would normalize illegal aliens who have been here for some period of time -- say 10-15 years.Trump on his immigration policy:
Trump: "I think it both helped and hurt. I think I got an A+ for closing up the border. I get very high marks for getting the bad ones out. But I get hurt because we also took people that had good jobs, that-- that created one violation, or breaking of the law, and that was that they came into the country illegally."
Douthat: "So you think your deportation policy--" / "Went too far--"Videos at the link. People have said that Trump is an example of A/B market testing on the presidential level. He's constantly talking and pitching policy choices. He doesn't know if he'll follow through or not. He listens for the audience reaction to decide on "A" or "B." That's mostly been good for us. But there is a down side, and we may be seeing it now. I've also heard that people with agendas always want to be the last person to talk to Trump, because his beliefs are often formed by the last person he talked with. I guess John Thune and Co. were the last people he talked to. Hello friends. I hope you are enjoying this cold and bright fall day.
Trump: "Too tough."
Douthat: "It was too tough?"
Trump: "I think it might be too tough, yeah."
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THE BLADE
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (iFTx/)
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1st
Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (AKptf)
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F- you , Blade!
Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 12:11 PM (AKptf)
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No more H1B is a great change!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 09, 2026 12:11 PM (NnhvP)
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Calling this a reversal is a pretty big understatement. Aside from tariffs, there has been no more consistent policy position in the Trump administration than "deport them all," and now Trump is suggesting that he can work with the Democrats on an amnesty bill that would normalize illegal aliens who have been here for some period of time -- say 10-15 years.
As I predicted.
As I predicted.
Posted by: Archimedes = That guy who always says he predicted it, but in this case he did at November 09, 2026 12:11 PM (Riz8t)
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Comprehensive immigration reform=amnesty
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 12:11 PM (Cqx++)
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I hope to see it just so I can see the cucked pro-Trump media defend amnesty. They already did it with the Epstein files and a "neocon war", so this will finish the trifecta.
Posted by: Don't Blame Me! at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (lNMaG)
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Ace, unless...this is something they are already doing! I think after Noem, they pulled back some incompetence.
Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (AKptf)
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I'm just skimming now. Can't take the details.
I'm just skimming now. Can't take the details.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (XJ22o)
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This is just the newest example of "if Pelosi and Schumer had buttered Trump up in 2017 the Dems would already have Communist utopia". They chose otherwise then, and they are absolutely going to choose otherwise now.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (2ocoG)
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Hello friends. I hope you are enjoying this cold and bright fall day.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace
It is a beautiful day, but it's 62 degrees here in NoVa. Needs to be colder.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace
It is a beautiful day, but it's 62 degrees here in NoVa. Needs to be colder.
Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (77rzZ)
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So we kindly go after employers of illegals
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (enNUy)
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Dark and rainy here. We need the rain though, so it could be worse.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (lFFaq)
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Trump is not an ideological man. He will cut deals where he can in order to keep a few of his priorities. He will want border protection and military spending. He will exchange most everything else, including health care subsides and student loans etc.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (wrEn7)
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People have said that Trump is an example of A/B market testing on the presidential level. He's constantly talking and pitching policy choices. He doesn't know if he'll follow through or not. He listens for the audience reaction to decide on "A" or "B."
That's mostly been good for us.
But there is a down side, and we may be seeing it now.
Sorry, but that's a guy with no principles, just what he can get away with. FTR, I don't think that's Trump, really, but he's now trimming his sails to forestall an even bigger disaster in '28. The time to solve the problem for real was 20-40 years ago, by closing the border and expelling the illegals before they became a huge voting block.
That's mostly been good for us.
But there is a down side, and we may be seeing it now.
Sorry, but that's a guy with no principles, just what he can get away with. FTR, I don't think that's Trump, really, but he's now trimming his sails to forestall an even bigger disaster in '28. The time to solve the problem for real was 20-40 years ago, by closing the border and expelling the illegals before they became a huge voting block.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (Riz8t)
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I floated the idea that if Trump had softened on the immigration raids the summer before the election, the GOP might have done a little better. (Emphases on "might" and "a little.")
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How hard were the raids in the first place? Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.
I don't think we ever were targeting anything other than the real criminals. Sure, we talked about going after everyone here illegally, but I don't recall a single instance of actually deporting someone like Maria Sanchez the quiet housekeeper.
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How hard were the raids in the first place? Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.
I don't think we ever were targeting anything other than the real criminals. Sure, we talked about going after everyone here illegally, but I don't recall a single instance of actually deporting someone like Maria Sanchez the quiet housekeeper.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (iFTx/)
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>>>14 Trump is not an ideological man. He will cut deals where he can in order to keep a few of his priorities. He will want border protection and military spending. He will exchange most everything else, including health care subsides and student loans etc.
ooof
ooof
Posted by: ace at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (1wjle)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (wVcYX)
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The best that appears to be politically possible is to limit migration as much as possible while striking a diplomatic tone. The Democrats won't offer up any deal worth taking.
Keep in mind Trump has floated the idea of a deal with Democrats on basically every topic under the sun and nothing has ever come of it.
Keep in mind Trump has floated the idea of a deal with Democrats on basically every topic under the sun and nothing has ever come of it.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (okun6)
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Meh, more Democrat, communist and societal welfare leeches incoming.
Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (Q/FnY)
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So we kindly go after employers of illegals
Posted by: NCKate
If Trump couldn't get it done, who will?
Posted by: NCKate
If Trump couldn't get it done, who will?
Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (Riz8t)
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>>>13 Dark and rainy here. We need the rain though, so it could be worse.
oh well. At least some rain was needed.
oh well. At least some rain was needed.
Posted by: ace at November 09, 2026 12:15 PM (1wjle)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 12:15 PM (viF8m)
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Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.
All true, but network news/CNN/MS NOW viewers were never told that. And a lot of people, including a lot of conservatives, don't believe anything unless Jake Tapper says it.
All true, but network news/CNN/MS NOW viewers were never told that. And a lot of people, including a lot of conservatives, don't believe anything unless Jake Tapper says it.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:16 PM (2ocoG)
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How hard were the raids in the first place? Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.
I don't think we ever were targeting anything other than the real criminals. Sure, we talked about going after everyone here illegally, but I don't recall a single instance of actually deporting someone like Maria Sanchez the quiet housekeeper.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (iFTx/)
This is mostly a case of needing to keep things quiet and try to direct media attention to other things.
I don't think we ever were targeting anything other than the real criminals. Sure, we talked about going after everyone here illegally, but I don't recall a single instance of actually deporting someone like Maria Sanchez the quiet housekeeper.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (iFTx/)
This is mostly a case of needing to keep things quiet and try to direct media attention to other things.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:16 PM (okun6)
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Ooof: Trump Says His Immigration Policy Was Too Tough, Seeks Some Kind of...
It's unfair that you kicked those illegals out of our country that will undercut me and work cheaper! So I'm going to vote for the party that will let them back in!
Why am I unemployed???
Posted by: Jose Legal American
It's unfair that you kicked those illegals out of our country that will undercut me and work cheaper! So I'm going to vote for the party that will let them back in!
Why am I unemployed???
Posted by: Jose Legal American
Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 12:17 PM (dylrg)
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>>>Ace, unless...this is something they are already doing! I think after Noem, they pulled back some incompetence.
well after she was fired, there was an early report that Markwayne Mullin would be scaling back on the raids, but conservatives protested and then he seemed to re-commit to the raids.
I don't know if they've slackened.
well after she was fired, there was an early report that Markwayne Mullin would be scaling back on the raids, but conservatives protested and then he seemed to re-commit to the raids.
I don't know if they've slackened.
Posted by: ace at November 09, 2026 12:17 PM (1wjle)
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IF he had ever had Balls, he would have been putting Employers in Prison as fast or faster than he was deporting illegal aliens.
Posted by: garrett at November 09, 2026 12:17 PM (k1S9h)
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>>>How hard were the raids in the first place? Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.
well their policy was to go after the criminals, but they also said that if they encountered illegals in the course of a raid to get a criminal, they would arrest that illegal as well. The point was to pressure sanctuary jurisdictions to just turn over illegals at the jailhouses but they refused.
well their policy was to go after the criminals, but they also said that if they encountered illegals in the course of a raid to get a criminal, they would arrest that illegal as well. The point was to pressure sanctuary jurisdictions to just turn over illegals at the jailhouses but they refused.
Posted by: ace at November 09, 2026 12:18 PM (1wjle)
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I've not seen any difference here in Charlotte. Overnight arrests haven't changed. East Charlotte is no go area of illegals. If anything, more moved here to be safe.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:18 PM (enNUy)
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Meh.
I'm not going to worry about what the Trumpster is saying. His actions will be sufficient. I don't see him as the kind of guy who will go wobbly.
I'm not going to worry about what the Trumpster is saying. His actions will be sufficient. I don't see him as the kind of guy who will go wobbly.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 09, 2026 12:18 PM (2WIwB)
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This doesn't seem very Stephen Miller-esque. Resignation on the horizon?
This doesn't seem very Stephen Miller-esque. Resignation on the horizon?
Posted by: Your Blackpill of the Hour at November 09, 2026 12:19 PM (XJ22o)
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The Dems never compromise.
Posted by: davidt at November 09, 2026 12:19 PM (Q+gd/)
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I'm still in Camp Deport Them All. And for those of you who say, "But that's not how we win elections!" I would like to point out the 20+ million new Democrat voters that just magically appeared. Cleaning up the voter rolls and deporting illegals that vote will help us win elections.
Posted by: pookysgirl believes in borders at November 09, 2026 12:19 PM (Wt5PA)
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Is this some kind of Sun Tzu strategery?
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2026 12:20 PM (wVcYX)
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Trump says a lot of things.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 12:20 PM (2Ez/1)
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IDK. We’ve been exposed to poll after poll about something that seems vexatious. Latinos allegedly were in favor of Trump’s immigration policy, and moved in record numbers into his voting column during the last election.
Now they don’t like it and moved back into the Democrats column, enough that Trump now sounds like George W Bush.
Now they don’t like it and moved back into the Democrats column, enough that Trump now sounds like George W Bush.
Posted by: Vengeance at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (rxwdW)
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Well...I hope he's bluffing and ICE will deport tens of millions anyway.
You never know with Trump. We'll see.
I don't care if they have jobs and are here for three decades. Do they pay US taxes? Or send money to their countries to support more invading?
Are they hyphenated Americans? They owe no loyalty til they take the citizenship test. Even then they owe no loyalty, but can at least speak and read English. As they should be able to obtain driver's licenses.
I hope he gets an earful from others as to what we voted for. Too tired to scream THIS IS BS!
I will continue with DEPORT DEPORT DEPORT
You never know with Trump. We'll see.
I don't care if they have jobs and are here for three decades. Do they pay US taxes? Or send money to their countries to support more invading?
Are they hyphenated Americans? They owe no loyalty til they take the citizenship test. Even then they owe no loyalty, but can at least speak and read English. As they should be able to obtain driver's licenses.
I hope he gets an earful from others as to what we voted for. Too tired to scream THIS IS BS!
I will continue with DEPORT DEPORT DEPORT
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (hzuYO)
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This doesn't seem very Stephen Miller-esque. Resignation on the horizon?
Miller, Homan, and Mullin all said post-election that the raids will continue.
Miller, Homan, and Mullin all said post-election that the raids will continue.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (2ocoG)
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I've not seen any difference here in Charlotte. Overnight arrests haven't changed. East Charlotte is no go area of illegals. If anything, more moved here to be safe.
Posted by: NCKate
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Illegals own a food niche in San Diego. Illegal taco carts on downtown sidewalks and the public park. I mean, the taco carts themselves are illegal, the whole thing going on in broad daylight and nightlight, no threat to them whatsoever.
I've not seen any difference here in Charlotte. Overnight arrests haven't changed. East Charlotte is no go area of illegals. If anything, more moved here to be safe.
Posted by: NCKate
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Illegals own a food niche in San Diego. Illegal taco carts on downtown sidewalks and the public park. I mean, the taco carts themselves are illegal, the whole thing going on in broad daylight and nightlight, no threat to them whatsoever.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (XJ22o)
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Good golly, y’all.
Trump doesn’t take a dump without having a plan.
Given his record over the past decade, I would not bet against him.
No, he’s not perfect. But he fights and delivers, and has been fighting without much support.
Maybe take a deep breath.
But buying more ammo is still top of the list.
Trump doesn’t take a dump without having a plan.
Given his record over the past decade, I would not bet against him.
No, he’s not perfect. But he fights and delivers, and has been fighting without much support.
Maybe take a deep breath.
But buying more ammo is still top of the list.
Posted by: RI Red at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (HdjQ+)
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Watch what Trump does, not what he says. He just appointed Stephen Miller as chief of staff at the White House. He’s going to sound all conciliatory to the press, but Miller’s appointment shows he’s going to double down on deportation.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (ZVgZ4)
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After President Trump.is gone and the Socialists take over we will be swamped with the world population.
Might as well get started to end it all then
Might as well get started to end it all then
Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (MRapk)
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Oh
Good afternoon Ace and everyone
Good afternoon Ace and everyone
Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (MRapk)
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All those businesses that rely on illegal immigrant labor are salivating about amnesty not realizing how they're going to get bent over and railed. As soon as they get their "citizenship" papers, you can't pay them like indentured serfs. And right outside your factory door are going to be the union organizers signing up illiterate 3rd worlders who are now "citizens". Democrats get new voters AND more money
Posted by: Stacy0311 at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (etlz2)
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Not really a surprise... and yes, we will see a return to some level of immigration, for two key reasons.
One, the West (in general) and the USA (specifically) has lost it's optimisim/work ethic/sense of purpose. It has become jejune, lifeless, and disoriented, without challenge...
Second, every (and I mean every) program/plan/design in Western governments is predicated on increasing populations over time. The idea of decreasing population is almost... frightning to our betters (see the venom spewed daily at Japan for NOT importing more, all dressed in "what will they do with fewer people?"
One, the West (in general) and the USA (specifically) has lost it's optimisim/work ethic/sense of purpose. It has become jejune, lifeless, and disoriented, without challenge...
Second, every (and I mean every) program/plan/design in Western governments is predicated on increasing populations over time. The idea of decreasing population is almost... frightning to our betters (see the venom spewed daily at Japan for NOT importing more, all dressed in "what will they do with fewer people?"
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (pfXMo)
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Trump pushing an amnesty would be like promising no new wars and then getting into a war with Iran.
Would never happen. Trust the process.
Would never happen. Trust the process.
Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (gw3RI)
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IDK. We’ve been exposed to poll after poll about something that seems vexatious. Latinos allegedly were in favor of Trump’s immigration policy, and moved in record numbers into his voting column during the last election.
Now they don’t like it and moved back into the Democrats column, enough that Trump now sounds like George W Bush.
Yeah, I don't get this alleged flip in Hispanics. I think it's a smoke screen for the very extensive cheat operation that was happening, but who knows.
Now they don’t like it and moved back into the Democrats column, enough that Trump now sounds like George W Bush.
Yeah, I don't get this alleged flip in Hispanics. I think it's a smoke screen for the very extensive cheat operation that was happening, but who knows.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (2ocoG)
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Widespread ICE raids continue in the Indianapolis area.
Posted by: toddg at November 09, 2026 12:23 PM (ceFtv)
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Great, just what we need, more of the worlds dregs on the taxpayers payroll.
Posted by: Case at November 09, 2026 12:23 PM (En+fz)
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:23 PM (pfXMo)
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IDK. We’ve been exposed to poll after poll about something that seems vexatious. Latinos allegedly were in favor of Trump’s immigration policy, and moved in record numbers into his voting column during the last election.
Now they don’t like it and moved back into the Democrats column, enough that Trump now sounds like George W Bush.
Posted by: Vengeance at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (rxwdW)
Easy answer: vote tallies don’t reflect actual votes.
Now they don’t like it and moved back into the Democrats column, enough that Trump now sounds like George W Bush.
Posted by: Vengeance at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (rxwdW)
Easy answer: vote tallies don’t reflect actual votes.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 09, 2026 12:23 PM (ZVgZ4)
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Trump is not an ideological man. He will cut deals where he can in order to keep a few of his priorities. He will want border protection and military spending. He will exchange most everything else, including health care subsides and student loans etc.
--
I can't even get mad because I know there's nothing I can do anymore.
I just keep going back to Trump is 80 years old.
We're bargaining that the Trump shit sandwich will be Wonder Bread and not whole wheat, I guess ...?
--
I can't even get mad because I know there's nothing I can do anymore.
I just keep going back to Trump is 80 years old.
We're bargaining that the Trump shit sandwich will be Wonder Bread and not whole wheat, I guess ...?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:24 PM (Cw3N8)
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Not sure Trump softening on this issue helps. Left wants open borders. MAGA wants deportations and closed borders. Moderation seen as retreat by MAGA? How much will they tolerate? Likely neither side will like whatever he ends up doing.
Posted by: scampydog at November 09, 2026 12:24 PM (2bFN5)
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If Trump pulls the plug and abandons his voters now to the people that tried to kill and then jail him in that order and want to jail his whole family, it would be totally out of character but I am always willing to be surprised.
I am not surprised at how he sounds. He likes to say things that give them UNEXPECTED things to respond to.
That is nothing new. All his haters have been claiming for years he's dying to sell us out to the likes of Pelosi and Schumer and they have been wrong every day up to now.
I am not surprised at how he sounds. He likes to say things that give them UNEXPECTED things to respond to.
That is nothing new. All his haters have been claiming for years he's dying to sell us out to the likes of Pelosi and Schumer and they have been wrong every day up to now.
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:24 PM (RZ+Ww)
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All those businesses that rely on illegal immigrant labor are salivating about amnesty not realizing how they're going to get bent over and railed"
"That's the next guy's problem"
/current MBA teaching
"That's the next guy's problem"
/current MBA teaching
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:25 PM (pfXMo)
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33 The Dems never compromise.
Of course they do. Then they lie, and don't do what they said they would do.
Of course they do. Then they lie, and don't do what they said they would do.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:25 PM (Riz8t)
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That is nothing new. All his haters have been claiming for years he's dying to sell us out to the likes of Pelosi and Schumer and they have been wrong every day up to now.
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:24 PM (RZ+Ww)
I remember when Trump was going to sell us out on gun control and green energy and it didn't happen.
That is nothing new. All his haters have been claiming for years he's dying to sell us out to the likes of Pelosi and Schumer and they have been wrong every day up to now.
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:24 PM (RZ+Ww)
I remember when Trump was going to sell us out on gun control and green energy and it didn't happen.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:26 PM (okun6)
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We're bargaining that the Trump shit sandwich will be Wonder Bread and not whole wheat, I guess ...?"
Roman Meal...
Roman Meal...
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:26 PM (pfXMo)
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How many illegals does Tyson employ in NC? It's funny when you have an Aztec looking non English speaking employee named Tommy Fitzsimmons. Maybe some bullshit is happening.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:26 PM (enNUy)
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In brighter news, a large cultural enrichment boat coming from Africa capsized (probably Hank Johnson's fault somehow) and the Muslims on board became halal shark food. Allhu Ack (Jaws theme plays).
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:26 PM (Aqf1y)
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Trump is merely shaping the battle space by dividing the Blue Wave. He wants to know who he can work and who he can’t. Throw platitudes to the friendlies and bombs to the others. He can get deal with the Russians and squeeze the shit out the EUies. Iran needs to be starved some more.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 09, 2026 12:26 PM (Wp1X1)
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Afternoon, Ace. Fall in New England is feeling pretty good today. I'm surrounded by Bostonians, but at least the weather is nice.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 12:27 PM (bFu5X)
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Turn out the lights, the party's over....
Posted by: Sad Country Song at November 09, 2026 12:27 PM (ett92)
Posted by: Sandy at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (XeU6L)
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fight, fight fig...
Posted by: GOPe at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (nvKZ7)
Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (gw3RI)
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Did anyone try and tell Trump not to do that interview, that it might be a bad idea to go on national TV and think out loud like that immediately after the mid terms?
Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (kX27y)
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the Fox News presidency
Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM
Could be worse, I guess. We might have an NPR presidency.
Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM
Could be worse, I guess. We might have an NPR presidency.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (bFu5X)
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How hard were the raids in the first place? Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.
well their policy was to go after the criminals, but they also said that if they encountered illegals in the course of a raid to get a criminal, they would arrest that illegal as well. The point was to pressure sanctuary jurisdictions to just turn over illegals at the jailhouses but they refused.
Posted by: ace at November 09, 2026 12:18 PM (1wjle)
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Yea, but that was the second part of my comment: they said that, but did they in fact ever follow through and deport an illegal who wasn't a serious criminal. If they did, I wasn't aware of it.
Every single illegal that the media hyped up was a hardened criminal and parasite on the nation. I don't recall a single housekeeper or nanny.
well their policy was to go after the criminals, but they also said that if they encountered illegals in the course of a raid to get a criminal, they would arrest that illegal as well. The point was to pressure sanctuary jurisdictions to just turn over illegals at the jailhouses but they refused.
Posted by: ace at November 09, 2026 12:18 PM (1wjle)
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Yea, but that was the second part of my comment: they said that, but did they in fact ever follow through and deport an illegal who wasn't a serious criminal. If they did, I wasn't aware of it.
Every single illegal that the media hyped up was a hardened criminal and parasite on the nation. I don't recall a single housekeeper or nanny.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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I need some research help here. I saw a Leftist claim that ICE has arrested 529 American citizens so far. Which I can see if ICE was arresting people interfering with raids, but I thought those arrested were immediately handed over to local police. The insinuation, of course, is that ICE is rounding up anyone who looks brown and deporting them... somewhere.
Has anyone seen this debunked by the Right?
Has anyone seen this debunked by the Right?
Posted by: pookysgirl would rather not descend into the Lefty Swamp at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (Wt5PA)
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That is nothing new. All his haters have been claiming for years he's dying to sell us out to the likes of Pelosi and Schumer and they have been wrong every day up to now.
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:24 PM (RZ+Ww)
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I am not a hater, but he wanted to make a deal on "DREAMers" with them at the beginning of his first term.
He told them they can pursue the "Russia" stuff, or they could have some nice deals.
I'm still Team Trump, though. I just realized that he's always had more centrist intentions.
After his dinner with him, Maher now will stand up to the idea of Trump being close-minded, and stresses that Trump likes listening to ideas from other sides.
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:24 PM (RZ+Ww)
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I am not a hater, but he wanted to make a deal on "DREAMers" with them at the beginning of his first term.
He told them they can pursue the "Russia" stuff, or they could have some nice deals.
I'm still Team Trump, though. I just realized that he's always had more centrist intentions.
After his dinner with him, Maher now will stand up to the idea of Trump being close-minded, and stresses that Trump likes listening to ideas from other sides.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (Fi81e)
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I thought this might happen. The art of the deal works both ways.
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (OkYzo)
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Has anyone seen this debunked by the Right?
Posted by: pookysgirl would rather not descend into the Lefty Swamp at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (Wt5PA)
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I would need to see substance on the claim first.
Never seen them produce it.
Posted by: pookysgirl would rather not descend into the Lefty Swamp at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (Wt5PA)
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I would need to see substance on the claim first.
Never seen them produce it.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:31 PM (Fi81e)
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Reagan did an amnesty, so that means it's cool, right?
Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026 12:31 PM (ZxPkt)
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68 Did anyone try and tell Trump not to do that interview, that it might be a bad idea to go on national TV and think out loud like that immediately after the mid terms?
Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (kX27y)
This is political positioning to soften his (and the GOP's) image. Independent of whether there's any actual intention to follow through. It's not accidental or random.
Everyone talking to the media after the mid-terms is positioning themselves.
Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (kX27y)
This is political positioning to soften his (and the GOP's) image. Independent of whether there's any actual intention to follow through. It's not accidental or random.
Everyone talking to the media after the mid-terms is positioning themselves.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:31 PM (okun6)
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Amnesty is the end of America. I mean, for real. The end. No hope of recovering what we once were. But with the massive swelling of Hispanic voters, and the tragedy that resulted in that on 11/3, we're pretty much there regardless. I've always known this is where it would all end up. The millions upon millions here illegally would never be removed. Only the tiniest fraction. We've been on borrowed time for a long time. If Trump pulls some kind of amnesty, we lose forever. If illegals stay here, swell in numbers, and vote in our elections anyway, we lose forever.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2026 12:32 PM (qBdHI)
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It is a beautiful day, but it's 62 degrees here in NoVa. Needs to be colder.
Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (77rzZ)
not until they turn the heat on in the office here in the tidewater....
nothing like trying to work at a desk in a 65 degree office....
Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (77rzZ)
not until they turn the heat on in the office here in the tidewater....
nothing like trying to work at a desk in a 65 degree office....
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at November 09, 2026 12:33 PM (nXhwP)
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I don't think Trump is being too tough on criminals. He needs to emphasize that if states won't cooperate with ICE, then he needs to do raids to find dangerous illegal alien criminals.
Most people don't want any illegal aliens in the country. They are somewhat sympathetic to sob stories about ICE being too tough, but they would agree with Trump if his approach was explained well.
Most people don't want any illegal aliens in the country. They are somewhat sympathetic to sob stories about ICE being too tough, but they would agree with Trump if his approach was explained well.
Posted by: Dave at November 09, 2026 12:33 PM (sbsMc)
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Reagan did an amnesty, so that means it's cool, right?
Posted by: Don Black
Worked like a charm! No unforeseen circumstances at all!
Posted by: Don Black
Worked like a charm! No unforeseen circumstances at all!
Posted by: mikeski at November 09, 2026 12:33 PM (VHUov)
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“ God is with us; he is our leader. His priests with their trumpets will sound the battle cry against you. People of Israel, do not fight against the Lord, the God of your ancestors, for you will not succeed.”
2 Chronicles 13:12
2 Chronicles 13:12
Posted by: Marcus T at November 09, 2026 12:33 PM (3arSl)
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I thought this might happen. The art of the deal works both ways.
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (OkYzo)
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It is very likely that had the Dems not pursued the bogus Russia Collusion stuff, that we would have had a very much more liberal Trump. He very likely would have done more stuff we didn't ask for or want.
But that they refused to compromise on what President Trump knew was bullshit--although he did ask Comey to tell him what he found on the subject. And this made Trump serve the "far right".
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (OkYzo)
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It is very likely that had the Dems not pursued the bogus Russia Collusion stuff, that we would have had a very much more liberal Trump. He very likely would have done more stuff we didn't ask for or want.
But that they refused to compromise on what President Trump knew was bullshit--although he did ask Comey to tell him what he found on the subject. And this made Trump serve the "far right".
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:33 PM (Fi81e)
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Afternoon Ace.
Trump can be Trump after 1/1 without worrying about reelection. That might be good or bad depending on your view. He'll get some type of "amnesty" though not as much as the Dems want because the GOPe and their donors need cheap foreign labor. If he does it right it could piss off the DSA types and get them fighting even more against the old time Dems. Of course it will really piss off his base
Trump can be Trump after 1/1 without worrying about reelection. That might be good or bad depending on your view. He'll get some type of "amnesty" though not as much as the Dems want because the GOPe and their donors need cheap foreign labor. If he does it right it could piss off the DSA types and get them fighting even more against the old time Dems. Of course it will really piss off his base
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 12:33 PM (FroOw)
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I saw a Leftist claim that ICE has arrested 529 American citizens so far."
There's a blurb going around about 500 plus being "detained" - but not actually held. Those who are stupid enough get turned over to local authorities.
The specific claim is an assertion without evidence. Nothing more.
There's a blurb going around about 500 plus being "detained" - but not actually held. Those who are stupid enough get turned over to local authorities.
The specific claim is an assertion without evidence. Nothing more.
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (pfXMo)
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They will not give him anything therefore there will be no deal. How they approach this comment should be informative to him.
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (RZ+Ww)
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Don't see any purpose to this - assuming it's tactical and not sincere. And it's dumb and damaging. Deportation and enforcement overall have been perfectly fine, not "too tough" (what's that supposed to mean? it's nonsense feel-speak for dummies of the sort that now make up half or more of the country). And it stupidly validates the mass slander and distortion that ICE enforcement is anything other than normal for any state or fed LE agency.
Recall Trump has slipped a few times and openly talked about not addressing the 95% of the problem - non-criminal illegals. As at the Iowa rally day that BBB passed (ironically), where he alluded to agriculture and hospitality depending on illegals - to the silence of the crowd (silence at a Trump rally I believe is rare to unprecedented).
I assumed he fears the short-term economic impact of enforcement on non-criminals. Which is dumb, or at least confirms even he doesn't understand the unforgiving black/white binary nature of the choice: you either actually enforce the law, or just sweep up around the edges as a prelude to an even greater disaster.
Recall Trump has slipped a few times and openly talked about not addressing the 95% of the problem - non-criminal illegals. As at the Iowa rally day that BBB passed (ironically), where he alluded to agriculture and hospitality depending on illegals - to the silence of the crowd (silence at a Trump rally I believe is rare to unprecedented).
I assumed he fears the short-term economic impact of enforcement on non-criminals. Which is dumb, or at least confirms even he doesn't understand the unforgiving black/white binary nature of the choice: you either actually enforce the law, or just sweep up around the edges as a prelude to an even greater disaster.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (U/Byj)
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I'm not seeing anything from the LIVs that voted left that they cared about immigration.
The only thing I am seeing is gas/food prices.
I did suggest in the home stretch Trump should have proposed ending gas taxes.
The Dems would have gotten enough GOPers to stop him but turn the discussion in that direction...
The only thing I am seeing is gas/food prices.
I did suggest in the home stretch Trump should have proposed ending gas taxes.
The Dems would have gotten enough GOPers to stop him but turn the discussion in that direction...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (sKqQm)
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Plenty of Dems are saying no deals with Trump; no way, no how. It will be full speed ahead on investigations, etc.
So here's hoping no deals will be possible on immigration or anything else.
Which is the way it should be, since any deals acceptable to those scumbags will be bad deals.
So here's hoping no deals will be possible on immigration or anything else.
Which is the way it should be, since any deals acceptable to those scumbags will be bad deals.
Posted by: No Name Today at November 09, 2026 12:35 PM (8mulE)
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The dems are going to push for amnesty for every fucking illegal that is here, even if they came last year.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 09, 2026 12:35 PM (8Uo7a)
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The millions upon millions here illegally would never be removed. "
Of course not. How else will I fill my new apartments?
/family of your local whor... er, politicians
Of course not. How else will I fill my new apartments?
/family of your local whor... er, politicians
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:35 PM (pfXMo)
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Reagan did an amnesty, so that means it's cool, right?
Posted by: Don Black
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Right. Why not repeat what Reagan ended up considering his biggest mistake in office?! (Not to you, but to the people I've seen ask it).
They also point up that Obamacare was closer to what the Republicans were proposing as an alternative--without thinking of how popular that was among the base. And from my reckoning, not very.
Posted by: Don Black
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Right. Why not repeat what Reagan ended up considering his biggest mistake in office?! (Not to you, but to the people I've seen ask it).
They also point up that Obamacare was closer to what the Republicans were proposing as an alternative--without thinking of how popular that was among the base. And from my reckoning, not very.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:36 PM (Fi81e)
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I need some research help here. I saw a Leftist claim that ICE has arrested 529 American citizens so far.
The left tells me Trump has deported thousands of Americans.
When I've pressed for a name I get "do your own research"
The left tells me Trump has deported thousands of Americans.
When I've pressed for a name I get "do your own research"
Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:36 PM (sKqQm)
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Maybe they will be *stealth raids vs the Pretti Good kind, which I enjoyed in a perverse fashion.
*Woosh! Wake up and half the family has vamoosed. Loaded into cargo planes and dropped somewhere to learn a new language. Like in London to learn Farsi with an hispanic accent.
I saw a photo today of the UK defense lead person, a guy wearing a skirt. I have no idea if it is AI as I have stuff to do and meeing my favorite SIL to walk the foothills on a lovely fall day.
DEPORT THEM ALL if not legal or over-stayed visas. I don't give two hoots what voters whine about now or in two years. I WANT THEM GONE!
I seem to be shouting a lot but am perfectly calm.
Take their Somolian pirates and flotilla back to their retard country. I hope most of the boats leak and sharks are following.
We know they can't swim anyway and the only thing that would float would be their deformed coconut noggins, filled with methane, due to their fart plumbing going up instead of out.
Floating head is no good when your nose and mouth are below the water line for breathing.
Maybe the one swimmer could walk across the Atlantic using them as stepping stones and mate with a sibling they didn't know they had.
*Woosh! Wake up and half the family has vamoosed. Loaded into cargo planes and dropped somewhere to learn a new language. Like in London to learn Farsi with an hispanic accent.
I saw a photo today of the UK defense lead person, a guy wearing a skirt. I have no idea if it is AI as I have stuff to do and meeing my favorite SIL to walk the foothills on a lovely fall day.
DEPORT THEM ALL if not legal or over-stayed visas. I don't give two hoots what voters whine about now or in two years. I WANT THEM GONE!
I seem to be shouting a lot but am perfectly calm.
Take their Somolian pirates and flotilla back to their retard country. I hope most of the boats leak and sharks are following.
We know they can't swim anyway and the only thing that would float would be their deformed coconut noggins, filled with methane, due to their fart plumbing going up instead of out.
Floating head is no good when your nose and mouth are below the water line for breathing.
Maybe the one swimmer could walk across the Atlantic using them as stepping stones and mate with a sibling they didn't know they had.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 12:36 PM (hzuYO)
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>>This is political positioning to soften his (and the GOP's) image. Independent of whether there's any actual intention to follow through. It's not accidental or random.
I agree. You don't install Stephen Miller as your Chief of Staff and then go wobbly on illegals.
The left is like a bunch of rabid dogs right now that have been let off the leash. They are overreaching everywhere. So Trump counters by appearing reasonable. They aren't going to make a deal with him. They've been fighting for year for complete open borders and getting rid of ICE altogether.
As RI Red said, take a breath and let's see what happens before going to 11.
I agree. You don't install Stephen Miller as your Chief of Staff and then go wobbly on illegals.
The left is like a bunch of rabid dogs right now that have been let off the leash. They are overreaching everywhere. So Trump counters by appearing reasonable. They aren't going to make a deal with him. They've been fighting for year for complete open borders and getting rid of ICE altogether.
As RI Red said, take a breath and let's see what happens before going to 11.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 12:36 PM (viF8m)
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No, no, no. You don't back off those people for a minute.
I'll give you the rope to hang me, Trump says.
He may have well said that.
Now Linda McMahon is a target, of course. Right down the line, pick off another woman until we really go for the men.
The politburo will be in action day 1 across the country. The real Order 227; not one thing to roll back by 2028.
I think the world of Trump but this is not how he should be framing the last two years of his 2nd administration with real barbarians at the gates.
I'll give you the rope to hang me, Trump says.
He may have well said that.
Now Linda McMahon is a target, of course. Right down the line, pick off another woman until we really go for the men.
The politburo will be in action day 1 across the country. The real Order 227; not one thing to roll back by 2028.
I think the world of Trump but this is not how he should be framing the last two years of his 2nd administration with real barbarians at the gates.
Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 12:36 PM (NFX2v)
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We’ve been exposed to poll after poll about something that seems vexatious. Latinos allegedly were in favor of Trump’s immigration policy, and moved in record numbers into his voting column during the last election.
Now they don’t like it and moved back into the Democrats column, enough that Trump now sounds like George W Bush.
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Crime is massively down. Which is a good thing especially in low income/working class neighborhoods.
But some people who may be legal, have relatives, or friends who aren't legal. So they are on edge about them getting picked up. Even if you are legal, but you are originally from Mexico or something, you might not be sleeping well given the chance that you might get sweep up in it . . .
Its fear. The fear merchants pump it out daily, and Latino anxiety levels rival the Irish.
Now they don’t like it and moved back into the Democrats column, enough that Trump now sounds like George W Bush.
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Crime is massively down. Which is a good thing especially in low income/working class neighborhoods.
But some people who may be legal, have relatives, or friends who aren't legal. So they are on edge about them getting picked up. Even if you are legal, but you are originally from Mexico or something, you might not be sleeping well given the chance that you might get sweep up in it . . .
Its fear. The fear merchants pump it out daily, and Latino anxiety levels rival the Irish.
Posted by: Karen's Inner Monologue at November 09, 2026 12:36 PM (anL5R)
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Plenty of Dems are saying no deals with Trump; no way, no how. It will be full speed ahead on investigations, etc.
Posted by: No Name Today at November 09, 2026 12:35 PM (8mulE)
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And they'll pass the savings on to us!
Posted by: No Name Today at November 09, 2026 12:35 PM (8mulE)
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And they'll pass the savings on to us!
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (Fi81e)
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BTW, I do note the original piece is from Tepid Fume's website.
Take with mucho Himalayan Pink Salt....
Take with mucho Himalayan Pink Salt....
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (pfXMo)
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The truth: each of them must go.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Brewingfrog at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (Z0yym)
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Off delusional sock
Posted by: sock at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (anL5R)
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87 I'm not seeing anything from the LIVs that voted left that they cared about immigration.
The only thing I am seeing is gas/food prices.
I did suggest in the home stretch Trump should have proposed ending gas taxes.
The Dems would have gotten enough GOPers to stop him but turn the discussion in that direction...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (sKqQm)
This is specifically aimed at the massive wave of Hispanic voters that powered the Ds in mid-terms.
Is it the right read? Hard to say but it's a plausible one and doesn't cost anything as long as there's no action.
The only thing I am seeing is gas/food prices.
I did suggest in the home stretch Trump should have proposed ending gas taxes.
The Dems would have gotten enough GOPers to stop him but turn the discussion in that direction...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (sKqQm)
This is specifically aimed at the massive wave of Hispanic voters that powered the Ds in mid-terms.
Is it the right read? Hard to say but it's a plausible one and doesn't cost anything as long as there's no action.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (okun6)
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We need the illegals to live in all the high density housing that the youngsters don't want/can't afford.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (enNUy)
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I'm not seeing anything from the LIVs that voted left that they cared about immigration.
The only thing I am seeing is gas/food prices.
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I saw a retweet of this ;
"Ron Nehring
@RonNehring
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13h
I just bought a $1999 refrigerator.
It would have been about $1649 if not for the federal tariffs tax which I (not “South Korea”
paid.
I also paid $155 in sales tax.
Total cost $2154. Of which 25% is tariff tax and sales tax.
To pay for it, I had to earn $3,420 in gross salary, of which $1266 went to fed and state taxes.
So for $3,420 in labor I got a refrigerator worth $1,649 (48%).
52% went to the government in taxes."
The only thing I am seeing is gas/food prices.
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I saw a retweet of this ;
"Ron Nehring
@RonNehring
·
13h
I just bought a $1999 refrigerator.
It would have been about $1649 if not for the federal tariffs tax which I (not “South Korea”
paid.
I also paid $155 in sales tax.
Total cost $2154. Of which 25% is tariff tax and sales tax.
To pay for it, I had to earn $3,420 in gross salary, of which $1266 went to fed and state taxes.
So for $3,420 in labor I got a refrigerator worth $1,649 (48%).
52% went to the government in taxes."
Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (AKptf)
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I thought this might happen. The art of the deal works both ways.
Posted by: Frank Barone
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The problem is, compromise is not an inherently positive thing. A compromise of Good with Bad is not a desirable thing. Blatant examples;
See: ValJar proclaiming that 'Rapprochement' was the proper approach to deal with the Iranians.
Or, Neville Chamberlain in his 30 September 1938 remarks in London concerning the Munich Agreement and the subsequent Anglo-German Declaration. 'Peace in our time'.
Posted by: Frank Barone
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The problem is, compromise is not an inherently positive thing. A compromise of Good with Bad is not a desirable thing. Blatant examples;
See: ValJar proclaiming that 'Rapprochement' was the proper approach to deal with the Iranians.
Or, Neville Chamberlain in his 30 September 1938 remarks in London concerning the Munich Agreement and the subsequent Anglo-German Declaration. 'Peace in our time'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (XeU6L)
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I take it that the promotion of Stephen Miller should give us the biggest clue about the reality of Trump "backing off".
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:38 PM (Fi81e)
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In brighter news, a large cultural enrichment boat coming from Africa capsized (probably Hank Johnson's fault somehow) and the Muslims on board became halal shark food. Allhu Ack (Jaws theme plays).
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And the sharks will travel that route for 200 years looking for more.
/s/ lying professor while the stupids nod along to his bullshit
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And the sharks will travel that route for 200 years looking for more.
/s/ lying professor while the stupids nod along to his bullshit
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:38 PM (Cw3N8)
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This is disatrous for 2028...
Dems won't come home to Rs b/c Trump gets a little less tough, but Trump's base will absolutely abandon Rs forever if he grants amnesty.
This is stupid to the highest degree. This was also said before the adult in the room, Miller, became Chief of Staff.
And can we thank Miller's wife for lobbying him into the spot with the help of Elon and friends b/c whoever pitched this to Trump should be fired.
Let's demoralize an already demoralized base in the most backstabbing way possible...
Dems won't come home to Rs b/c Trump gets a little less tough, but Trump's base will absolutely abandon Rs forever if he grants amnesty.
This is stupid to the highest degree. This was also said before the adult in the room, Miller, became Chief of Staff.
And can we thank Miller's wife for lobbying him into the spot with the help of Elon and friends b/c whoever pitched this to Trump should be fired.
Let's demoralize an already demoralized base in the most backstabbing way possible...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:39 PM (Gb7+b)
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If Trump wants to betray his loyal base at the last minute, that's his legacy his fucking with, and not much more.
He can hold the line and leave office beloved by his voters.
Or do this, and leave office universally hated, like Bush. It's his call.
He can hold the line and leave office beloved by his voters.
Or do this, and leave office universally hated, like Bush. It's his call.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 12:39 PM (BI5O2)
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>>The problem is, compromise is not an inherently positive thing. A compromise of Good with Bad is not a desirable thing.
The thing about compromise is it takes two to compromise. Do you see anyone on the left talking about compromise?
This is the party that went to war over the Maryland Dad and abolishing ICE. Not some ICE, all ICE. And they are more emboldened now.
The thing about compromise is it takes two to compromise. Do you see anyone on the left talking about compromise?
This is the party that went to war over the Maryland Dad and abolishing ICE. Not some ICE, all ICE. And they are more emboldened now.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 12:39 PM (viF8m)
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We need the illegals to live in all the high density housing that the youngsters don't want/can't afford."
And there aren't that many youngsters around...
"52% went to the government in taxes."
No s*** sherlock. You just now figuring that out?
Dumbass...
And there aren't that many youngsters around...
"52% went to the government in taxes."
No s*** sherlock. You just now figuring that out?
Dumbass...
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:39 PM (pfXMo)
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RIGHT! Legal latino citizens have gotten a huge break having asshole gang members being cleaned out of their neighborhoods. They’ve been pretty happy being able to go to Target or Winco and not have to hang on to their children and have their heads on a swivel so these thugs don’t snatch their kids walking through a parking lot. Some GOPe slapdick must have told Trump this. GAS PRICES, GROCERY BILLS and fraud.
Posted by: JROD at November 09, 2026 12:40 PM (AuKIw)
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Ooof: Trump Says His Immigration Policy Was Too Tough, Seeks Some Kind of... Comprehensive Reform
I think that's probably clickbait by the media to get his supporters to polarize against him. If he did say it, I think Trump says a lot of stuff . We'll see what he does.
I think that's probably clickbait by the media to get his supporters to polarize against him. If he did say it, I think Trump says a lot of stuff . We'll see what he does.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2026 12:40 PM (JrHfD)
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108 This is disatrous for 2028...
Dems won't come home to Rs b/c Trump gets a little less tough, but Trump's base will absolutely abandon Rs forever if he grants amnesty.
This is stupid to the highest degree. This was also said before the adult in the room, Miller, became Chief of Staff.
And can we thank Miller's wife for lobbying him into the spot with the help of Elon and friends b/c whoever pitched this to Trump should be fired.
Let's demoralize an already demoralized base in the most backstabbing way possible...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:39 PM (Gb7+b)
This isn't the first time Trump has offered amnesty deals(such as the DACA offer in 201
, so let's say it doesn't happen again.
How does that change your analysis?
108 This is disatrous for 2028...
Dems won't come home to Rs b/c Trump gets a little less tough, but Trump's base will absolutely abandon Rs forever if he grants amnesty.
This is stupid to the highest degree. This was also said before the adult in the room, Miller, became Chief of Staff.
And can we thank Miller's wife for lobbying him into the spot with the help of Elon and friends b/c whoever pitched this to Trump should be fired.
Let's demoralize an already demoralized base in the most backstabbing way possible...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:39 PM (Gb7+b)
This isn't the first time Trump has offered amnesty deals(such as the DACA offer in 201
, so let's say it doesn't happen again.
How does that change your analysis?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:41 PM (okun6)
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How hard were the raids in the first place? Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.
I don't think we ever were targeting anything other than the real criminals. Sure, we talked about going after everyone here illegally, but I don't recall a single instance of actually deporting someone like Maria Sanchez the quiet housekeeper.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (iFTx/)
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No, it was happening a lot.
I have many Hispanic friends that liked Trump, but when they started sending people back that were hardworking and had been here 20:yrs and breaking up families was a bridge too far for them.
I don't think we ever were targeting anything other than the real criminals. Sure, we talked about going after everyone here illegally, but I don't recall a single instance of actually deporting someone like Maria Sanchez the quiet housekeeper.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (iFTx/)
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No, it was happening a lot.
I have many Hispanic friends that liked Trump, but when they started sending people back that were hardworking and had been here 20:yrs and breaking up families was a bridge too far for them.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 12:41 PM (wzaBj)
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And the sharks will travel that route for 200 years looking for more.
/s/ lying professor while the stupids nod along to his bullshit
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:38 PM (Cw3N
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Sharks are probably enraged as they prefer other meat than this nasty chum.
When even the sharks are enraged it's not a good week.
/s/ lying professor while the stupids nod along to his bullshit
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:38 PM (Cw3N
******
Sharks are probably enraged as they prefer other meat than this nasty chum.
When even the sharks are enraged it's not a good week.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 12:42 PM (hzuYO)
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too harsh on immigration enforcement, you gotta be f’ing kidding me. (facepalm)
Posted by: JROD at November 09, 2026 12:42 PM (AuKIw)
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The problem is, compromise is not an inherently positive thing. A compromise of Good with Bad is not a desirable thing. Blatant examples;
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (XeU6L)
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Just as I was discussing with Grok: tolerance is not a good general policy.
Because yes, you can tolerate "intolerant" behavior, you can't tolerate it if you like the behavior, you can only tolerate it if you don't like the behavior.
Well, how much don't you like the behavior.
Popper's "Paradox of tolerance" is simply a failure to understand how the sense changes when the act of "tolerating" is turned into a policy of "tolerance". (And it's also a single foot note from his body of writing.)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (XeU6L)
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Just as I was discussing with Grok: tolerance is not a good general policy.
Because yes, you can tolerate "intolerant" behavior, you can't tolerate it if you like the behavior, you can only tolerate it if you don't like the behavior.
Well, how much don't you like the behavior.
Popper's "Paradox of tolerance" is simply a failure to understand how the sense changes when the act of "tolerating" is turned into a policy of "tolerance". (And it's also a single foot note from his body of writing.)
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:43 PM (Fi81e)
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He is letting them be the ones to be recalcitrant and say no deal.
They will not give anything. They are unwilling. Maybe he's going senile and doesn't know that but I doubt it.
There is a fine line to walk here. Trump won't abandon us but he can't play into the narratives that just swept the GOP out of office. Talk is talk.
They will not give anything. They are unwilling. Maybe he's going senile and doesn't know that but I doubt it.
There is a fine line to walk here. Trump won't abandon us but he can't play into the narratives that just swept the GOP out of office. Talk is talk.
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:43 PM (RZ+Ww)
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Nope; I'm not in the mood to read "Trump betrayed us" wailing. See you folks later.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2026 12:43 PM (JrHfD)
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Oh, great - let in more folks from south of the border to pump up the numbers in Texas for the Dems. 'Cuz you know they are all going to vote.
Hello, Horde.
Hello, Horde.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 09, 2026 12:43 PM (SRRAx)
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>>>25 How hard were the raids in the first place? Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.
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Some of the deportations were rather pointless. Maybe there were enough of them to add up. It had to be word of mouth because the stupid one's, the truly stupid one's never made the news.
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Some of the deportations were rather pointless. Maybe there were enough of them to add up. It had to be word of mouth because the stupid one's, the truly stupid one's never made the news.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:43 PM (Pee1E)
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Did anyone try and tell Trump not to do that interview, that it might be a bad idea to go on national TV and think out loud like that immediately after the mid terms?
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Dems: HA-HA! We smoked the Rs with ruthless message discipline relentlessly and overwhelmingly pushed by our army of 200k online influencers.
Trump: [figurative 3 bong hits deep] soo maaan, like what we should do an' stuff is like, I don't know, maybe we could let the illegals stay or something?
Look the Great Communicator title is already taken.
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Dems: HA-HA! We smoked the Rs with ruthless message discipline relentlessly and overwhelmingly pushed by our army of 200k online influencers.
Trump: [figurative 3 bong hits deep] soo maaan, like what we should do an' stuff is like, I don't know, maybe we could let the illegals stay or something?
Look the Great Communicator title is already taken.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:44 PM (Cw3N8)
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An offer is only that. Many an offer is made knowing it will be rejected or that you can change it if the offer is unexpectedly accepted.
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:44 PM (RZ+Ww)
Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 12:45 PM (UjdFS)
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whoever Trump "sacks" next will give us a clue where he is going
Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 12:45 PM (AKptf)
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But on the other hand: this is a disaster.
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Yeah, this is what a lame duck looks like. And why I've been beating the drum that while it's nice that he did more than any predecessor, it wasn't enough and we needed to push harder.
The only hope for salvaging the country was the total elimination of the foreign populations that support the Democrats. Now it will just be theft either by government or with its approval until people finally figure out that productive behavior is a waste of time.
And then it all collapses. Along with any part of the global economy that depends on US demand.
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Yeah, this is what a lame duck looks like. And why I've been beating the drum that while it's nice that he did more than any predecessor, it wasn't enough and we needed to push harder.
The only hope for salvaging the country was the total elimination of the foreign populations that support the Democrats. Now it will just be theft either by government or with its approval until people finally figure out that productive behavior is a waste of time.
And then it all collapses. Along with any part of the global economy that depends on US demand.
Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 09, 2026 12:45 PM (vSvIl)
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113 Ooof: Trump Says His Immigration Policy Was Too Tough, Seeks Some Kind of... Comprehensive Reform
I think that's probably clickbait by the media to get his supporters to polarize against him. If he did say it, I think Trump says a lot of stuff . We'll see what he does.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2026 12:40 PM (JrHfD)
Not clickbait - 60 minutes interview Trump chose to do before Miller became chief of staff...
This was his reversal from focusing on his damn DC arch and ballroom...aka, he went from bad to worse.
Here's hoping Miller right's the ship...and tells Trump to shut up this week...entirely...
I think that's probably clickbait by the media to get his supporters to polarize against him. If he did say it, I think Trump says a lot of stuff . We'll see what he does.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2026 12:40 PM (JrHfD)
Not clickbait - 60 minutes interview Trump chose to do before Miller became chief of staff...
This was his reversal from focusing on his damn DC arch and ballroom...aka, he went from bad to worse.
Here's hoping Miller right's the ship...and tells Trump to shut up this week...entirely...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:45 PM (Gb7+b)
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No, it was happening a lot.
I have many Hispanic friends that liked Trump, but when they started sending people back that were hardworking and had been here 20:yrs and breaking up families was a bridge too far for them.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 12:41 PM (wzaBj)
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Eh. No pity. They had 20yrs to become legal.
We moved across the country and got our driver's licences at the DMV within 6wks.
It ain't hard. Granted, for them, you have to learn English to speak and read and pass a test. Unless your are super stupid and can't read anyway, being a cretin, go back to Cretinville and be a loser.
I am hardcore on this issue and won't back down. Too lazy to find the Tom Petty song to blast at high decibels.
I have many Hispanic friends that liked Trump, but when they started sending people back that were hardworking and had been here 20:yrs and breaking up families was a bridge too far for them.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 12:41 PM (wzaBj)
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Eh. No pity. They had 20yrs to become legal.
We moved across the country and got our driver's licences at the DMV within 6wks.
It ain't hard. Granted, for them, you have to learn English to speak and read and pass a test. Unless your are super stupid and can't read anyway, being a cretin, go back to Cretinville and be a loser.
I am hardcore on this issue and won't back down. Too lazy to find the Tom Petty song to blast at high decibels.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 12:45 PM (hzuYO)
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This isn't the first time Trump has offered amnesty deals(such as the DACA offer in 201, so let's say it doesn't happen again.
How does that change your analysis?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:41 PM (okun6)
Even talking amnesty is a backstab to the folks who didn't show up who we need to show up in 2028...it's betrayal...
How does that change your analysis?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:41 PM (okun6)
Even talking amnesty is a backstab to the folks who didn't show up who we need to show up in 2028...it's betrayal...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (Gb7+b)
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The thing about compromise is it takes two to compromise. Do you see anyone on the left talking about compromise?
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They're fixated on gaining power/control. They care not a whit about the well-being of the country...but you know that. Things like Character and Morality mean absolutely nothing to them.
The thing about compromise is it takes two to compromise. Do you see anyone on the left talking about compromise?
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They're fixated on gaining power/control. They care not a whit about the well-being of the country...but you know that. Things like Character and Morality mean absolutely nothing to them.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (XeU6L)
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The roof is on fire!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (yVYSZ)
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Let's demoralize an already demoralized base in the most backstabbing way possible...
The official data claims that the base didn't show up in the midterms. DataRepublican says the data has indicated that since September. If that's true, they've disqualified themselves from anyone caring about them.
The official data claims that the base didn't show up in the midterms. DataRepublican says the data has indicated that since September. If that's true, they've disqualified themselves from anyone caring about them.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:47 PM (2ocoG)
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If illegals living here for 20 years get rightfully sent home, and it's a bridge too far for your Hispanic friends, then they can follow them back to the mother country and get back to the roots they love so very much right along with them.
The door is right there. They're not locked in.
The door is right there. They're not locked in.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 12:47 PM (BI5O2)
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OTOH, some folks are pointing to the midterm failure flowing from a lack of transparency from Trump.
I don't buy it fully because Trump is always taking questions.
But maybe it's more, he stopped building the case for his decisions.
I don't buy it fully because Trump is always taking questions.
But maybe it's more, he stopped building the case for his decisions.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:47 PM (Cw3N8)
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Trump failed to sane-set us on Iran. He looks totally off on how long it was going to take to resolve.
Instead he sold us on how quick the action would be, and that elicited hopes in me that if he handled it within the War Powers limit, it would just be rhetoric to suggest that he had "overstepped".
Regarding Iran, Trump sold us, just like the Dems try to sell us on "solutions".
I knew there would be a cost to losing the No New Wars brand.
Instead he sold us on how quick the action would be, and that elicited hopes in me that if he handled it within the War Powers limit, it would just be rhetoric to suggest that he had "overstepped".
Regarding Iran, Trump sold us, just like the Dems try to sell us on "solutions".
I knew there would be a cost to losing the No New Wars brand.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:47 PM (Fi81e)
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"Is it the right read? Hard to say but it's a plausible one and doesn't cost anything as long as there's no action."
I don't expect "back off" in terms of action.
But I also see zero point to trying to mollify Hispanics this way - which it won't if they're so gone they have a 9-yr old's approach to something.
Employment enforcement is almost the whole ball-game. And it's been virtually set aside up to this point. And it's going to be much more vulnerable to the slander and distortion that easily shapes the reactions of ignorant/teenage girl-like/tribal America - i.e. at least half the country.
Apart from cuffing serious criminals the entire effort to date relies on intimidation to motivate self-deportation. Slightest sign of weakness guts that central effort and buys you bupkis, now or later.
I don't expect "back off" in terms of action.
But I also see zero point to trying to mollify Hispanics this way - which it won't if they're so gone they have a 9-yr old's approach to something.
Employment enforcement is almost the whole ball-game. And it's been virtually set aside up to this point. And it's going to be much more vulnerable to the slander and distortion that easily shapes the reactions of ignorant/teenage girl-like/tribal America - i.e. at least half the country.
Apart from cuffing serious criminals the entire effort to date relies on intimidation to motivate self-deportation. Slightest sign of weakness guts that central effort and buys you bupkis, now or later.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 12:47 PM (U/Byj)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (XeU6L)
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If you overstay your visa for one day in Japan and get caught, you get kicked out and might not necessarily end up in your home nation. That is tough. What we did is nothing.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (RjOoY)
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There's a blurb going around about 500 plus being "detained" - but not actually held. Those who are stupid enough get turned over to local authorities.
The specific claim is an assertion without evidence. Nothing more.
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (pfXMo)
Dankeschoen. Also, the mental image of a protestor screaming the sovereign citizen line "aM i BeInG dEtAiNeD?!" amuses me.
The specific claim is an assertion without evidence. Nothing more.
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (pfXMo)
Dankeschoen. Also, the mental image of a protestor screaming the sovereign citizen line "aM i BeInG dEtAiNeD?!" amuses me.
Posted by: pookysgirl has seen a few bodycam videos at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (Wt5PA)
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130 This isn't the first time Trump has offered amnesty deals(such as the DACA offer in 201, so let's say it doesn't happen again.
How does that change your analysis?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:41 PM (okun6)
Even talking amnesty is a backstab to the folks who didn't show up who we need to show up in 2028...it's betrayal...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (Gb7+b)
Ok, then Trump has done this repeatedly already, on gun control, global warming, and illegal immigration previously in 2018. So it seems like it's a type of "betrayal" that nobody remembers and has no policy impact.
On the flipside it makes it harder to sell the idea that Trump (or the GOP) holds radical positions.
Taking a very doctrinaire public stance on positions after being wiped in the midterms is a bad idea. The Ds were smart enough to talk about 'affordability' rather than their actual agenda.
How does that change your analysis?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:41 PM (okun6)
Even talking amnesty is a backstab to the folks who didn't show up who we need to show up in 2028...it's betrayal...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (Gb7+b)
Ok, then Trump has done this repeatedly already, on gun control, global warming, and illegal immigration previously in 2018. So it seems like it's a type of "betrayal" that nobody remembers and has no policy impact.
On the flipside it makes it harder to sell the idea that Trump (or the GOP) holds radical positions.
Taking a very doctrinaire public stance on positions after being wiped in the midterms is a bad idea. The Ds were smart enough to talk about 'affordability' rather than their actual agenda.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (okun6)
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I have a friend who married a Cuban, really Puerto Rican, but Cuban sounds way better. His family has been in Miami for 50 years and still they don't speak English. Because they don't need to.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (enNUy)
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Most of the deportees will be back anyway. With dems controlling the border states I'm sure the globalist NGOs are gearing up to restart the caravans of overweight iphone wielding "refugees"
Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (gw3RI)
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If Trump wants to betray his loyal base at the last minute, that's his legacy his fucking with, and not much more.
He can hold the line and leave office beloved by his voters.
Or do this, and leave office universally hated, like Bush. It's his call.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Exactly.
He has two years left. I would prefer to see him go nuclear and drive the left off the high dive.
He can hold the line and leave office beloved by his voters.
Or do this, and leave office universally hated, like Bush. It's his call.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Exactly.
He has two years left. I would prefer to see him go nuclear and drive the left off the high dive.
Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 12:49 PM (UjdFS)
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119 He is letting them be the ones to be recalcitrant and say no deal.
They will not give anything. They are unwilling.
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Day to day facts are facts. Whether they cheated or not makes no difference to the political day to day getting things done.
The men on the chessboard are moved and that is where we are and where he is. He has to deal with it and so do we.
_Shit Stinks
They will not give anything. They are unwilling.
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Day to day facts are facts. Whether they cheated or not makes no difference to the political day to day getting things done.
The men on the chessboard are moved and that is where we are and where he is. He has to deal with it and so do we.
_Shit Stinks
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:49 PM (Pee1E)
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I would light my hair on fire but I already burned it off after the election.
Posted by: ballistic at November 09, 2026 12:49 PM (oqH4h)
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they started sending people back that were hardworking
"Hardworking" is a political term, and has no other meaning.
Anybody who votes for your guy is "hardworking."
Everybody who gets a tax break or subsidy is "hardworking."
And all families are "hardworking." Ask any candidate.
You just had some principles that became inconvenient to maintaining your friendships. It's understandable, but $20 same as in town. Now there's something you're not willing to fight for.
"Hardworking" is a political term, and has no other meaning.
Anybody who votes for your guy is "hardworking."
Everybody who gets a tax break or subsidy is "hardworking."
And all families are "hardworking." Ask any candidate.
You just had some principles that became inconvenient to maintaining your friendships. It's understandable, but $20 same as in town. Now there's something you're not willing to fight for.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 09, 2026 12:49 PM (zdLoL)
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the Fox News presidency
Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM
Could be worse, I guess. We might have an NPR presidency.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (bFu5X)
We might wind up going straight to the Al Jazeera presidency.
Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM
Could be worse, I guess. We might have an NPR presidency.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (bFu5X)
We might wind up going straight to the Al Jazeera presidency.
Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (vSvIl)
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144 If Trump wants to betray his loyal base at the last minute, that's his legacy his fucking with, and not much more.
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When one sees nothing but gloom the world is gloomy, hopeless
with no offer of hope. It's a sad place.
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When one sees nothing but gloom the world is gloomy, hopeless
with no offer of hope. It's a sad place.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (Pee1E)
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Trump failed to sane-set us on Iran. He looks totally off on how long it was going to take to resolve.
Instead he sold us on how quick the action would be, and that elicited hopes in me that if he handled it within the War Powers limit, it would just be rhetoric to suggest that he had "overstepped".
100%. Too few people understand the Venezuela/Iran strategy was putting up an electric fence around China, in addition to freeing Persian hotties.
The annoying thing is that by any objective standard Iran really is utterly defeated. Hormuz is open for business, oil's in freefall, and the IRGC can barely light a birthday candle now. But they're continuing to do the "tis only a flesh wound" thing and the media is happy to cover for them.
Instead he sold us on how quick the action would be, and that elicited hopes in me that if he handled it within the War Powers limit, it would just be rhetoric to suggest that he had "overstepped".
100%. Too few people understand the Venezuela/Iran strategy was putting up an electric fence around China, in addition to freeing Persian hotties.
The annoying thing is that by any objective standard Iran really is utterly defeated. Hormuz is open for business, oil's in freefall, and the IRGC can barely light a birthday candle now. But they're continuing to do the "tis only a flesh wound" thing and the media is happy to cover for them.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (2ocoG)
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Ok, then Trump has done this repeatedly already, on gun control, global warming, and illegal immigration previously in 2018. So it seems like it's a type of "betrayal" that nobody remembers and has no policy impact.
On the flipside it makes it harder to sell the idea that Trump (or the GOP) holds radical positions.
Taking a very doctrinaire public stance on positions after being wiped in the midterms is a bad idea. The Ds were smart enough to talk about 'affordability' rather than their actual agenda.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (okun6)
You take NO STANCE that will backstab your voters and instead say you heard them and you're gonna work hard for them. You do NOT go on 60 Minutes and pontificate on all the ways you're gonna backstab the very base who showed up for you...
As I said, Trump should go silent this week after this, and let Homan and Miller clean this up...
On the flipside it makes it harder to sell the idea that Trump (or the GOP) holds radical positions.
Taking a very doctrinaire public stance on positions after being wiped in the midterms is a bad idea. The Ds were smart enough to talk about 'affordability' rather than their actual agenda.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (okun6)
You take NO STANCE that will backstab your voters and instead say you heard them and you're gonna work hard for them. You do NOT go on 60 Minutes and pontificate on all the ways you're gonna backstab the very base who showed up for you...
As I said, Trump should go silent this week after this, and let Homan and Miller clean this up...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (Gb7+b)
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Even talking amnesty is a backstab to the folks who didn't show up who we need to show up in 2028...it's betrayal...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (Gb7+b)
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They sound like people who are lauding a man for what he never was. They must not have paid attention to Trump in 2017 when he said he wanted to make a deal on the DREAM-ers and immigration.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (Gb7+b)
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They sound like people who are lauding a man for what he never was. They must not have paid attention to Trump in 2017 when he said he wanted to make a deal on the DREAM-ers and immigration.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (Fi81e)
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Are there still refridgerators being made in Iowa? No tariffs on domestic production.
Internet says 16 brands made in America.
Internet says 16 brands made in America.
Posted by: clarence at November 09, 2026 12:53 PM (W2eM/)
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No, it was happening a lot.
I have many Hispanic friends that liked Trump, but when they started sending people back that were hardworking and had been here 20:yrs and breaking up families was a bridge too far for them.
Posted by: redridinghood
Some of the deportations were rather pointless. Maybe there were enough of them to add up. It had to be word of mouth because the stupid one's, the truly stupid one's never made the news.
Posted by: Braenyard
So the Vast Right-Wing Media was hiding these stories of honest hardworking illegals who just forgot to fill out some paperwork at the DMV, and only running stories about Maryland Man and the like?
(half-sarcasm, half-serious.)
I have many Hispanic friends that liked Trump, but when they started sending people back that were hardworking and had been here 20:yrs and breaking up families was a bridge too far for them.
Posted by: redridinghood
Some of the deportations were rather pointless. Maybe there were enough of them to add up. It had to be word of mouth because the stupid one's, the truly stupid one's never made the news.
Posted by: Braenyard
So the Vast Right-Wing Media was hiding these stories of honest hardworking illegals who just forgot to fill out some paperwork at the DMV, and only running stories about Maryland Man and the like?
(half-sarcasm, half-serious.)
Posted by: mikeski at November 09, 2026 12:53 PM (VHUov)
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Ok, then Trump has done this repeatedly already, on gun control, global warming, and illegal immigration previously in 2018. So it seems like it's a type of "betrayal" that nobody remembers and has no policy impact.
On the flipside it makes it harder to sell the idea that Trump (or the GOP) holds radical positions.
Right. We've been saying this since 2017, and it's always been true, but watch what Trump does, not what he says.
On the flipside it makes it harder to sell the idea that Trump (or the GOP) holds radical positions.
Right. We've been saying this since 2017, and it's always been true, but watch what Trump does, not what he says.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:53 PM (2ocoG)
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
Posted by: PG at November 09, 2026 12:54 PM (qln0f)
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Trump will not do an amnesty. Forget it. Anyone telling you otherwise is dead wrong.
Democrats are unwilling to give Trump ANYTHING and he already knows it. Been there done that.
Democrats are unwilling to give Trump ANYTHING and he already knows it. Been there done that.
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:54 PM (RZ+Ww)
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If Trump wants to betray his loyal base at the last minute, that's his legacy his fucking with, and not much more.
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All I can say is my #1 priority for a very long time has been the removal and stopping of the crush of illegals pouring into this country. Nearly everything related to our country's survival flowed from that.
Of course, who knows what he will or won't do. Trump says a lot of things. But that is a pretty bold statement given his hard stance ever since he came down the elevator. It would be a huge betrayal. It would quite possibly be the only way to truly chink his armor in my opinion, regarding his legacy. Or at least, what I will think of it.
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All I can say is my #1 priority for a very long time has been the removal and stopping of the crush of illegals pouring into this country. Nearly everything related to our country's survival flowed from that.
Of course, who knows what he will or won't do. Trump says a lot of things. But that is a pretty bold statement given his hard stance ever since he came down the elevator. It would be a huge betrayal. It would quite possibly be the only way to truly chink his armor in my opinion, regarding his legacy. Or at least, what I will think of it.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2026 12:54 PM (qBdHI)
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I could apologize for misspelling licenses above but I won't.
I woke up normal today for the first time in two months of insomnia. Because of new cotton flannel sheets and a solid week of normal sleep. That's all it took was sleep. Thanks be to God, my husband, and LLBean (I should be paid for this endorsement).
I thank my dude because as a college guy he worked one summer, with full hippie handsomeness with his beard and looking like Robert Redford in the movie Jeremiah Johnson, in "Linens and Domestics." For a huge dept store in Long Island.
The thought of him working there still sends me laughing. He does know how to fold a fitted sheet; just one more thing to attract me. He found these perfect sheets for his going insane wife a week ago and sleep has eased the grief I have for my ill mother.
Pumped on one cup of coffee and now get out of my way.
I woke up normal today for the first time in two months of insomnia. Because of new cotton flannel sheets and a solid week of normal sleep. That's all it took was sleep. Thanks be to God, my husband, and LLBean (I should be paid for this endorsement).
I thank my dude because as a college guy he worked one summer, with full hippie handsomeness with his beard and looking like Robert Redford in the movie Jeremiah Johnson, in "Linens and Domestics." For a huge dept store in Long Island.
The thought of him working there still sends me laughing. He does know how to fold a fitted sheet; just one more thing to attract me. He found these perfect sheets for his going insane wife a week ago and sleep has eased the grief I have for my ill mother.
Pumped on one cup of coffee and now get out of my way.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 12:54 PM (hzuYO)
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Got into another X argument this morning with a person who says that Trump needs to go after the murderers and rapists and leave the poor Abuelas alone.
:headdesk:
The "sanctuary" zones are going balls to the wall to protect the murderers and rapists. Walz pardoned a convicted child rapist to try to avoid deportation. Blue states routinely ignore detainers and release these creeps who re-offend.
:headdesk:
The "sanctuary" zones are going balls to the wall to protect the murderers and rapists. Walz pardoned a convicted child rapist to try to avoid deportation. Blue states routinely ignore detainers and release these creeps who re-offend.
Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at November 09, 2026 12:54 PM (vqA1l)
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106 I take it that the promotion of Stephen Miller should give us the biggest clue about the reality of Trump "backing off".
Posted by: Axeman
I take it as Miller, who I admire as a brave and brilliant person, gets to be the lead Bad Cop...followed by cabinet positions such as Treasury, VA, Education, CDC.
Think Biden.
And here's always been a shadow government - inside or outside the actual federal government. O built in greater flexibility.
Posted by: Axeman
I take it as Miller, who I admire as a brave and brilliant person, gets to be the lead Bad Cop...followed by cabinet positions such as Treasury, VA, Education, CDC.
Think Biden.
And here's always been a shadow government - inside or outside the actual federal government. O built in greater flexibility.
Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 12:55 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Frank Luntz at November 09, 2026 12:55 PM (UjdFS)
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Exactly.
He has two years left. I would prefer to see him go nuclear and drive the left off the high dive.
Posted by: wth
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There are important things he can do with those nukes.
Is he bringing our armada home? Has he pulled Rubio off Cuba?
There are important things he can effect that the Democrats will be hard pressed to undo.
He has two years left. I would prefer to see him go nuclear and drive the left off the high dive.
Posted by: wth
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There are important things he can do with those nukes.
Is he bringing our armada home? Has he pulled Rubio off Cuba?
There are important things he can effect that the Democrats will be hard pressed to undo.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:55 PM (Pee1E)
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Got into another X argument this morning with a person who says that Trump needs to go after the murderers and rapists and leave the poor Abuelas alone.
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OK, that's about 50k deportations a month.
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OK, that's about 50k deportations a month.
Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 12:55 PM (AKptf)
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Seems to me this road is how you get headless corpses dangling from the overpass and death squads operating with impunity, and public support.
Posted by: Filthy, Son of Grimy at November 09, 2026 12:56 PM (7Q0e+)
166
As I said, Trump should go silent this week after this, and let Homan and Miller clean this up...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (Gb7+b)
This is not the time to be talking tough on immigration after Hispanics handed Texas to the Ds. Campaign on something else and keep policy the same.
As I said, Trump should go silent this week after this, and let Homan and Miller clean this up...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (Gb7+b)
This is not the time to be talking tough on immigration after Hispanics handed Texas to the Ds. Campaign on something else and keep policy the same.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:56 PM (okun6)
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The annoying thing is that by any objective standard Iran really is utterly defeated. Hormuz is open for business, oil's in freefall, and the IRGC can barely light a birthday candle now. But they're continuing to do the "tis only a flesh wound" thing and the media is happy to cover for them.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (2ocoG)
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I agree. Had Michigan not put in the 55¢/gallon tax to disguise a decline in gas prices, we'd be looking at mid-3s/gallon gas.
This is what is so stupid about the "Affordability" banner. The Party that waved it, in Michigan, cares so much about what you're paying at the pump, and how much it is hurting you that they want you to pay 55¢ more per gallon, just so you can't see prices come down! (And Michigan is not the only state, as I hear it.)
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (2ocoG)
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I agree. Had Michigan not put in the 55¢/gallon tax to disguise a decline in gas prices, we'd be looking at mid-3s/gallon gas.
This is what is so stupid about the "Affordability" banner. The Party that waved it, in Michigan, cares so much about what you're paying at the pump, and how much it is hurting you that they want you to pay 55¢ more per gallon, just so you can't see prices come down! (And Michigan is not the only state, as I hear it.)
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:56 PM (Fi81e)
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Remember:
Compromise in DC is
- Dems demand the whole loaf
- Rs offer 50%
- they compromise on giving the Dems 95% of the loaf.
Dems campaign on how they were cheated out of that 5%.
Rs campaign on how they saved you 5%.
Compromise in DC is
- Dems demand the whole loaf
- Rs offer 50%
- they compromise on giving the Dems 95% of the loaf.
Dems campaign on how they were cheated out of that 5%.
Rs campaign on how they saved you 5%.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:56 PM (Cw3N8)
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>>>So the Vast Right-Wing Media was hiding these stories of honest hardworking illegals who just forgot to fill out some paperwork at the DMV, and only running stories about Maryland Man and the like?
(half-sarcasm, half-serious.)
Posted by: mikeski
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You tell me, I don't watch TV.
(half-sarcasm, half-serious.)
Posted by: mikeski
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You tell me, I don't watch TV.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:56 PM (Pee1E)
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250 years was a good run.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM (JQfkC)
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The roof is on fire!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (yVYSZ)
We don't need no water, let the MF'er BURN!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (yVYSZ)
We don't need no water, let the MF'er BURN!
Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM (kuZER)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM (SN8r1)
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Are there still refridgerators being made in Iowa? No tariffs on domestic production.
Internet says 16 brands made in America.
Posted by: clarence
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Yeah..., no sympathy for the '$3600' fridge purchase.
Internet says 16 brands made in America.
Posted by: clarence
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Yeah..., no sympathy for the '$3600' fridge purchase.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM (XeU6L)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM (y9fZx)
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Got into another X argument this morning with a person who says that Trump needs to go after the murderers and rapists and leave the poor Abuelas alone.
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That's part of Homan's deal that "Sanctuary Cities/States" did not take.
They keep citing part of a deal they REFUSED.
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That's part of Homan's deal that "Sanctuary Cities/States" did not take.
They keep citing part of a deal they REFUSED.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:58 PM (Fi81e)
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167 The annoying thing is that by any objective standard Iran really is utterly defeated. Hormuz is open for business, oil's in freefall, and the IRGC can barely light a birthday candle now. But they're continuing to do the "tis only a flesh wound" thing and the media is happy to cover for them.
Posted by: Ian S.
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Iran has nuclear cake. That's got to go.
Posted by: Ian S.
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Iran has nuclear cake. That's got to go.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:58 PM (Pee1E)
177
The roof is on fire!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (yVYSZ)
We don't need no water, let the MF'er BURN!
Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM (kuZER)
172 The roof is on fire!
Posted by: nurse ratched.
We don't need no water let the mf'er burn...
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
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Scary
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (yVYSZ)
We don't need no water, let the MF'er BURN!
Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM (kuZER)
172 The roof is on fire!
Posted by: nurse ratched.
We don't need no water let the mf'er burn...
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
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Scary
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:58 PM (XeU6L)
178
Seems to me this road is how you get headless corpses dangling from the overpass and death squads operating with impunity, and public support.
The media's all but ignoring it, but Bukele has apparently fixed Haiti temporarily. He got back his hostages, killed a few gang leaders, and the other gang leaders are now in hiding. Regular Haitians love it. You really can just do things.
The media's all but ignoring it, but Bukele has apparently fixed Haiti temporarily. He got back his hostages, killed a few gang leaders, and the other gang leaders are now in hiding. Regular Haitians love it. You really can just do things.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:59 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Case at November 09, 2026 12:59 PM (En+fz)
180
So if I can run a criminal operation without getting caught or fined or arrested for, say, 10 or 15 years, then I should be given legal right to continue running that criminal enterprise? Is that how this works?
Posted by: NeighSayer at November 09, 2026 12:59 PM (bufu1)
181
Saying something is stupid and pointless is not saying it's important. That's the case here. Probably zero impact, apart from a few Hispanics who can't handle the reality of rule of law - despite voting for it when it mattered - having their delusions and tribalism validated by the bad orange man saying yeah we've been too "tough".
Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 12:59 PM (U/Byj)
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I knew there would be a cost to losing the No New Wars brand.
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"No New Wars" was always a hopelessly unserious thing to say. That is not the nature of the world we live in.
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"No New Wars" was always a hopelessly unserious thing to say. That is not the nature of the world we live in.
Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 09, 2026 12:59 PM (vSvIl)
183
All is proceeding as we have foreseen.
Posted by: The Uniparty at November 09, 2026 12:59 PM (0sNs1)
184
Yeah..., no sympathy for the '$3600' fridge purchase.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Nice looking stainless, freezer on the bottom at Homely Depot for $699.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Nice looking stainless, freezer on the bottom at Homely Depot for $699.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 01:00 PM (Pee1E)
185
You tell me, I don't watch TV.
Posted by: Braenyard
I don't either. I wait for Ace & the CoBs to report on the reporting.
Posted by: Braenyard
I don't either. I wait for Ace & the CoBs to report on the reporting.
Posted by: mikeski at November 09, 2026 01:00 PM (VHUov)
186
i think trump will want to keep going after illegals who have broken other laws after getting here. eventually the possible negatives effects of going after illegals who have behaved themselves and actually somehow contribute to society will outweigh the benefits of deporting them but we probably won't see that happen for a good couple of years
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 09, 2026 01:00 PM (CWTWj)
187
CBS news, Transcript: Sen. Elizabeth Warren on "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan," Nov. 8, 2026
Elizabeth Warren Dares Trump to Use His Veto Power as Democrats Prepare to Take Over Congress: 'Let's Test That Out'
Mon, November 9, 2026, Yahoo News
Now this c-ut surfaces loudly.
Elizabeth Warren Dares Trump to Use His Veto Power as Democrats Prepare to Take Over Congress: 'Let's Test That Out'
Mon, November 9, 2026, Yahoo News
Now this c-ut surfaces loudly.
Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (NFX2v)
188
I'm really thinking now that the IC suckered Trump into the idea that Iran was an imminent threat, just like they suckered Bush Jr. into the idea that Hussein was buying refinable yellow cake.
I can't quite figure out why the military would be conservative in general, but the IC is so radical. The best I can come up with is that the IC recruits "intellectuals" and they don't like the shackle of traditional sentiment as a limit.
I can't quite figure out why the military would be conservative in general, but the IC is so radical. The best I can come up with is that the IC recruits "intellectuals" and they don't like the shackle of traditional sentiment as a limit.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (Fi81e)
189
As TJM (where have you gone!?!) always said, they didn't go after employers because they used the failed government system to check status. If it didn't respond with info or didn't say the worker was not eligible, they can simply say "we followed the rules" and nothing would be done.
Yet another government failure taken advantage of by big business.
Yet another government failure taken advantage of by big business.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (y9fZx)
190
Scary
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:58 PM (XeU6L)
Honestly, I was surprised nobody had already said it by the time I arrived
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:58 PM (XeU6L)
Honestly, I was surprised nobody had already said it by the time I arrived
Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (kuZER)
191
Well...I am not going to do anything today. I started this yesterday and didn't finish and I am no quitter!
Posted by: Diogenes at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (2WIwB)
192
Scary
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:58 PM (XeU6L)
Honestly, I was surprised nobody had already said it by the time I arrived
Posted by: Doof
Same.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:58 PM (XeU6L)
Honestly, I was surprised nobody had already said it by the time I arrived
Posted by: Doof
Same.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (SN8r1)
193
On the ground I haven’t really seen any difference in the past 18 months. Every construction crew is still 100% Spanish speaking. Everyone working in virtually every restaurant is Spanish speaking.
I don’t live in a sanctuary city or state. If there’s one place where tough immigration enforcement should yield real results it’s here. And still nothing changed.
The problem is too big to ever be solved.
I don’t live in a sanctuary city or state. If there’s one place where tough immigration enforcement should yield real results it’s here. And still nothing changed.
The problem is too big to ever be solved.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (JQfkC)
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I can't quite figure out why the military would be conservative in general, but the IC is so radical. The best I can come up with is that the IC recruits "intellectuals" and they don't like the shackle of traditional sentiment as a limit.
they recruit from Georgetown and the Ivies and other colleges like NESCAC. the IC does.
I knew two UPenn CIA recruits.
that is why the IC is very liberal.
they recruit from Georgetown and the Ivies and other colleges like NESCAC. the IC does.
I knew two UPenn CIA recruits.
that is why the IC is very liberal.
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (qBivk)
195
"No New Wars" was always a hopelessly unserious thing to say. That is not the nature of the world we live in.
It's absolutely a dumb thing to say, but also Iran barely qualifies as a war. There have never been "boots on the ground", and they haven't fought back in any organized way since the Navy cleared the Strait.
It's absolutely a dumb thing to say, but also Iran barely qualifies as a war. There have never been "boots on the ground", and they haven't fought back in any organized way since the Navy cleared the Strait.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (2ocoG)
196
Rigorous immigration enforcement is not the reason we lost the Governorship of Alaska and are about to get two democrat senators from that state.
Basically, the democrats have taken full advantage of what is now election season, they register millions of ballots, they flood the systems with ballots and there's not much we can do about that other than reciprocate, but being that the GOP is a useless pile of dog shit, our ability to oust these f***ing ***holes and lunatics, is low.
We're in for a decade long slog just to get back to status quo, which was already a knife edge.
Basically, the democrats have taken full advantage of what is now election season, they register millions of ballots, they flood the systems with ballots and there's not much we can do about that other than reciprocate, but being that the GOP is a useless pile of dog shit, our ability to oust these f***ing ***holes and lunatics, is low.
We're in for a decade long slog just to get back to status quo, which was already a knife edge.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (XV/Pl)
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I can believe this:
DC_Draino
@DC_Draino
·
3h
John Thune disapproving of Tim Burchett as a US Senator is all you need to know that Tim Burchett needs to be a Senator.
toddstarnes
@toddstarnes
·
4h
JUST IN: Sources tell me that John Thune is actively campaigning to stop Marsha Blackburn from naming Rep. Tim Burchett as her replacement in the U.S. Senate. Thune does not want Burchett anywhere near the Senate chamber. And that's what makes Burchett the perfect choice!
I can believe this:
DC_Draino
@DC_Draino
·
3h
John Thune disapproving of Tim Burchett as a US Senator is all you need to know that Tim Burchett needs to be a Senator.
toddstarnes
@toddstarnes
·
4h
JUST IN: Sources tell me that John Thune is actively campaigning to stop Marsha Blackburn from naming Rep. Tim Burchett as her replacement in the U.S. Senate. Thune does not want Burchett anywhere near the Senate chamber. And that's what makes Burchett the perfect choice!
Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (kX27y)
198
We don't need no water, let the MF'er BURN!
Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM
We don't need no water let the mf'er burn...
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM
May I micturate on your leg, and inform you it's raining?
Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM
We don't need no water let the mf'er burn...
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM
May I micturate on your leg, and inform you it's raining?
Posted by: John Thune (Rino-SD) at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (0sNs1)
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On the ground I haven’t really seen any difference in the past 18 months. Every construction crew is still 100% Spanish speaking. Everyone working in virtually every restaurant is Spanish speaking.
I don’t live in a sanctuary city or state. If there’s one place where tough immigration enforcement should yield real results it’s here. And still nothing changed.
The problem is too big to ever be solved.
Go to an emergency room. The difference there is night and day.
I don’t live in a sanctuary city or state. If there’s one place where tough immigration enforcement should yield real results it’s here. And still nothing changed.
The problem is too big to ever be solved.
Go to an emergency room. The difference there is night and day.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (Fi81e)
201
There's no way the military is conservative.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:04 PM (enNUy)
202
But we still have Paris
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at November 09, 2026 01:04 PM (WScdz)
203
There's no way the military is conservative.
The troops almost universally are. The officer corpse has significant Ivy League exposure and is mixed.
The troops almost universally are. The officer corpse has significant Ivy League exposure and is mixed.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 01:05 PM (2ocoG)
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201 There's no way the military is conservative.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:04 PM (enNUy)
Most of the rank and file is. The officers are more mixed. There's also been massive recruitment drop offs during D presidencies.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:04 PM (enNUy)
Most of the rank and file is. The officers are more mixed. There's also been massive recruitment drop offs during D presidencies.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 01:05 PM (okun6)
205
the cheat that the Left implemented last week is a large scale version of what they did fraudulently to win in NJ. Mike Sherill's win there was all on fake ballots.
it worked, they scaled up, they can now sprinkle ballots wherever they need to.
ballot box is done with.
it worked, they scaled up, they can now sprinkle ballots wherever they need to.
ballot box is done with.
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 01:05 PM (qBivk)
206
On the ground I haven’t really seen any difference in the past 18 months. Every construction crew is still 100% Spanish speaking. Everyone working in virtually every restaurant is Spanish speaking.
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I've seen changes. Other than Spanish speakers are now working entry level jobs. Traffic is way down.
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I've seen changes. Other than Spanish speakers are now working entry level jobs. Traffic is way down.
Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 01:05 PM (AKptf)
207
As TJM (where have you gone!?!) always said, they didn't go after employers because they used the failed government system to check status. If it didn't respond with info or didn't say the worker was not eligible, they can simply say "we followed the rules" and nothing would be done.
Yet another government failure taken advantage of by big business.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (y9fZx)
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Yup, the magic of eVerify. It was a scam and give-away to employers that made it almost impossible to go after employers.
But even apart from that, you can still go to home depots or similar big stores or parking lots at 6 am, and you'll see illegals waiting to be picked up for daily labor (construction, lawn, moving, and other basic labor tasks). They aren't even trying to hide it.
Yet another government failure taken advantage of by big business.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (y9fZx)
______
Yup, the magic of eVerify. It was a scam and give-away to employers that made it almost impossible to go after employers.
But even apart from that, you can still go to home depots or similar big stores or parking lots at 6 am, and you'll see illegals waiting to be picked up for daily labor (construction, lawn, moving, and other basic labor tasks). They aren't even trying to hide it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 01:05 PM (iFTx/)
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The only reason I've put up with Trump's bullshit is his tough stance on the border.
All that being said, I think the optics of some of the things he did, was just counterproductive. Like rolling into blue cities with masked ICE agents and zip ties., purposely creating as much drama as possible. So much more ow hanging fruit.
But if Trump cuts some amnesty deal, he'll leave office with a 20% approval rating and probably be the most hated President in US history. His base is the only thing left.
All that being said, I think the optics of some of the things he did, was just counterproductive. Like rolling into blue cities with masked ICE agents and zip ties., purposely creating as much drama as possible. So much more ow hanging fruit.
But if Trump cuts some amnesty deal, he'll leave office with a 20% approval rating and probably be the most hated President in US history. His base is the only thing left.
Posted by: Leupold at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (VRTat)
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Trump is looking at the same numbers I’ve been looking at. I don’t know the rest of the country, but in Texas Republicans got wiped out by heavy handed immigration enforcement. We don’t have a choice about ending that; either our side ends it and gets some credit or the commies take over everything and do it for us.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (dJgiD)
210
Prosecuting the last two years is valuable and there are definitely things I wish had been different.
But the key takeaway question for me is why is the GOP aside from some appointees and a governor or two, still the exact same collection of clowns, do-nothings, frauds, and obvious slime covered phonies. WHY???
But the key takeaway question for me is why is the GOP aside from some appointees and a governor or two, still the exact same collection of clowns, do-nothings, frauds, and obvious slime covered phonies. WHY???
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (RZ+Ww)
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the military is more conservative than it was a bit ago, and more conservative than the general public
I feel ok about the military
we might need them soon
how many coups do I need to live thru?
I feel ok about the military
we might need them soon
how many coups do I need to live thru?
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (qBivk)
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The troops almost universally are. The officer corpse has significant Ivy League exposure and is mixed.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 01:05 PM (2ocoG)
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So, again it's the closest to policy, and the closest to a DC career.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 01:05 PM (2ocoG)
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So, again it's the closest to policy, and the closest to a DC career.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (Fi81e)
213
I can't quite figure out why the military would be conservative in general, but the IC is so radical. The best I can come up with is that the IC recruits "intellectuals" and they don't like the shackle of traditional sentiment as a limit.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (Fi81e)
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The CIA still recruits heavily from the Ivy League because they're all still living in the 1950s when the Ivies were actually full of worldly and intelligent young folks rather than the writhing pit of leftoid retards they are today.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (Fi81e)
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The CIA still recruits heavily from the Ivy League because they're all still living in the 1950s when the Ivies were actually full of worldly and intelligent young folks rather than the writhing pit of leftoid retards they are today.
Posted by: ballistic at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (oqH4h)
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I always kinda thought a lot of the illegals would be allowed to stay if they were employed and not criminals. There was the rumor that the ones working in construction were not showing for work if they heard ICE was in town, but for the most part Trump has not gone after workplaces that are packed with illegals. He also hasn't gone after the employers of illegals.
Hopefully he won't say he has been too rough on the IRGC, or that maybe Iran can have just a few little nukes.
Hopefully he won't say he has been too rough on the IRGC, or that maybe Iran can have just a few little nukes.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (vbXSk)
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I can't imagine Miller would agree with amnesty... I believe this interview was done before he ousted Wiles ?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (+gK6I)
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how many coups do I need to live thru?
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (qBivk)
How many you got?
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (qBivk)
How many you got?
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (RZ+Ww)
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JUST IN: Sources tell me that John Thune is actively campaigning to stop Marsha Blackburn from naming Rep. Tim Burchett as her replacement in the U.S. Senate. Thune does not want Burchett anywhere near the Senate chamber. And that's what makes Burchett the perfect choice!
Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (kX27y)
*******
I like Burchett on a lot of policies. but there are times when he gets way too wacky.
I don't think we need wacky as they end up costing us a seat.
Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (kX27y)
*******
I like Burchett on a lot of policies. but there are times when he gets way too wacky.
I don't think we need wacky as they end up costing us a seat.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (wzaBj)
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Thune got everything he wanted and we're pretty fucked. Send Burchett.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (SN8r1)
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>>>Are there still refridgerators being made in Iowa? No tariffs on domestic production.
Amana is still there. Just laid off a bunch of people last year, at least in part bc people want to buy cheaper imported appliances.
Amana is still there. Just laid off a bunch of people last year, at least in part bc people want to buy cheaper imported appliances.
Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (gw3RI)
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But we still have Paris
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at November 09, 2026 01:04 PM (WScdz)
and Christmas Tamales.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at November 09, 2026 01:04 PM (WScdz)
and Christmas Tamales.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2026 01:08 PM (wVcYX)
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Had the BBB just levied some serious taxes/fines on employers that had illegals on their payroll, this problem would have been solved overnight. And you wouldn't even need 60 votes in the Senate because "it's a tax!"
But deep down, no one wants to go there and really solve this.
But deep down, no one wants to go there and really solve this.
Posted by: Leupold at November 09, 2026 01:08 PM (VRTat)
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rump is looking at the same numbers I’ve been looking at.
oh the fake ones? cool cool.
we MUST shut the border and pause immigration
and continue getting rid of the illegals here
that is a MUST DO
otherwise, country is really gone-gone
oh the fake ones? cool cool.
we MUST shut the border and pause immigration
and continue getting rid of the illegals here
that is a MUST DO
otherwise, country is really gone-gone
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 01:08 PM (qBivk)
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180 So if I can run a criminal operation without getting caught or fined or arrested for, say, 10 or 15 years, then I should be given legal right to continue running that criminal enterprise? Is that how this works?
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City alterman, Ward leader, realtor!!, social justice activist, former felon paid speaker & author...
Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 01:08 PM (NFX2v)
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217 JUST IN: Sources tell me that John Thune is actively campaigning to stop Marsha Blackburn from naming Rep. Tim Burchett
He gets weird sometimes... I heard they were considering an ex wrestler who was a Mayor there ?
He gets weird sometimes... I heard they were considering an ex wrestler who was a Mayor there ?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 01:08 PM (+gK6I)
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Bear in mind that in Texas a GREAT deal of political advertising was done by the Dems in Spanish on all of the Spanish media outlets. Most of us never saw the wave coming, because we only speak English.
What a thing to say in this country, right? Beaten by people who don't bother to speak the language of the country. How long before Spanish becomes the official language of the US? It's rapidly becoming the official language of Texas.
What a thing to say in this country, right? Beaten by people who don't bother to speak the language of the country. How long before Spanish becomes the official language of the US? It's rapidly becoming the official language of Texas.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (SRRAx)
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Well, it sounds like an opportunity to send lots of mail and emails to the President and tell him that his immigration policies weren't aggressive enough.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (vJrRc)
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Don't you find it curious that all the state initiatives limiting voting to US citizens passed, even with the big blue wave?
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (JNr/z)
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We don’t have a choice about ending that; either our side ends it and gets some credit or the commies take over everything and do it for us.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM
The Dems and MSM won't allow the former. See the link about Van Jones and the Dem election operation in JJ's post this morning.
It was nice while it lasted.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM
The Dems and MSM won't allow the former. See the link about Van Jones and the Dem election operation in JJ's post this morning.
It was nice while it lasted.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (0sNs1)
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On the ground I haven’t really seen any difference in the past 18 months. Every construction crew is still 100% Spanish speaking. Everyone working in virtually every restaurant is Spanish speaking.
I don’t live in a sanctuary city or state. If there’s one place where tough immigration enforcement should yield real results it’s here. And still nothing changed.
The problem is too big to ever be solved.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (JQfkC)
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I've seen a noticeable difference, even in a blue city. There are still lotsa obvious illegals doing obvious illegal work (couriers, bike delivery, construction, nannies, taxi/uber, etc) but overall there's been a noticeable drop off.
I don’t live in a sanctuary city or state. If there’s one place where tough immigration enforcement should yield real results it’s here. And still nothing changed.
The problem is too big to ever be solved.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (JQfkC)
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I've seen a noticeable difference, even in a blue city. There are still lotsa obvious illegals doing obvious illegal work (couriers, bike delivery, construction, nannies, taxi/uber, etc) but overall there's been a noticeable drop off.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (iFTx/)
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I was being sarcastic. But if Trump falls for anything within an RCH of amnesty, I'm done with him.
And take down all that silly gold shit.
And take down all that silly gold shit.
Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (ZxPkt)
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What a thing to say in this country, right? Beaten by people who don't bother to speak the language of the country. How long before Spanish becomes the official language of the US? It's rapidly becoming the official language of Texas.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (SRRAx)
Try California...
What a thing to say in this country, right? Beaten by people who don't bother to speak the language of the country. How long before Spanish becomes the official language of the US? It's rapidly becoming the official language of Texas.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (SRRAx)
Try California...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (+gK6I)
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"heavy handed immigration enforcement."
Israeli genocide in Gaza
Climate emergency
White supremacy afflicting America
Israeli genocide in Gaza
Climate emergency
White supremacy afflicting America
Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (U/Byj)
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Hispanics, urban blacks and white women are a big part of enlisted. They aren't conservative. They want all the freebies they can get.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (enNUy)
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Nood.
Posted by: Nazdar at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (NcvvS)
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Nood
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (SN8r1)
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UST IN: Sources tell me that John Thune is actively campaigning to stop Marsha Blackburn from naming Rep. Tim Burchett as her replacement in the U.S. Senate. Thune does not want Burchett anywhere near the Senate chamber. And that's what makes Burchett the perfect choice!
Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (kX27y)
Man, if Thune only worked this hard on Murkowiwskoswisi and Collins to make them vote for Trump's agenda...
Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (kX27y)
Man, if Thune only worked this hard on Murkowiwskoswisi and Collins to make them vote for Trump's agenda...
Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (AKptf)
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227 Don't you find it curious that all the state initiatives limiting voting to US citizens passed, even with the big blue wave?
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (JNr/z)
Most Republican policies are broadly popular. Simultaneously, most of these policies are not focused on by the media and Democrat misrepresent their positions.
California by referendum is far more right wing than California by party.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (JNr/z)
Most Republican policies are broadly popular. Simultaneously, most of these policies are not focused on by the media and Democrat misrepresent their positions.
California by referendum is far more right wing than California by party.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (okun6)
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Trump is looking at the same numbers I’ve been looking at. I don’t know the rest of the country, but in Texas Republicans got wiped out by heavy handed immigration enforcement. We don’t have a choice about ending that; either our side ends it and gets some credit or the commies take over everything and do it for us.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (dJgiD)
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Sad, but a true reality. I don't want to be here, but here we are.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (dJgiD)
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Sad, but a true reality. I don't want to be here, but here we are.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 01:11 PM (wzaBj)
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Trump is looking at the same numbers I’ve been looking at. I don’t know the rest of the country, but in Texas Republicans got wiped out by heavy handed immigration enforcement. We don’t have a choice about ending that; either our side ends it and gets some credit or the commies take over everything and do it for us.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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I think something needs to change, but I dont buy this narrative. Why did basically every red state drop Republicans?
I remember hearing in 2006 Republicans did poorly because of immigration concerns.
EVERY election that Republicans do poorly, the same crowd trots out "amnesty now!".
Hispanics voted against Republicans because of cost of living. They simply tend to be more blue collar/working class. Iran had FAR more to do with the wipeout than immigration.
It's also clear to me its deeply personal against Trump.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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I think something needs to change, but I dont buy this narrative. Why did basically every red state drop Republicans?
I remember hearing in 2006 Republicans did poorly because of immigration concerns.
EVERY election that Republicans do poorly, the same crowd trots out "amnesty now!".
Hispanics voted against Republicans because of cost of living. They simply tend to be more blue collar/working class. Iran had FAR more to do with the wipeout than immigration.
It's also clear to me its deeply personal against Trump.
Posted by: Leupold at November 09, 2026 01:11 PM (VRTat)
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What a thing to say in this country, right? Beaten by people who don't bother to speak the language of the country. How long before Spanish becomes the official language of the US? It's rapidly becoming the official language of Texas.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (SRRAx)
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You know what's funny?
Progs have been bitching for over a decade now that "Americans get their news from different sources!" which creates a "divided America"*, so they think we should have a common news source, just not a common language.
Illustrating a fundamental rule: Libs always say fucked up things.
* -what not like a bundle of sticks bound together?!--for shame!
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (SRRAx)
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You know what's funny?
Progs have been bitching for over a decade now that "Americans get their news from different sources!" which creates a "divided America"*, so they think we should have a common news source, just not a common language.
Illustrating a fundamental rule: Libs always say fucked up things.
* -what not like a bundle of sticks bound together?!--for shame!
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (Fi81e)
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re 224: kane, the undertaker's brother? can't remember his name but he's been a guest on gutfeld's show
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (CWTWj)
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233 Hispanics, urban blacks and white women are a big part of enlisted. They aren't conservative. They want all the freebies they can get.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (enNUy)
Think through what you're saying about women. The military is heavily male-dominated, and whiter than the US as a whole.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (enNUy)
Think through what you're saying about women. The military is heavily male-dominated, and whiter than the US as a whole.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (okun6)
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After reading these comments, I’m buying a crossbow, canning supplies, ammo, ammo, ammo, because we clearly deserve to lose to these evil twisted people, I feel like pappy o’ Daniel, amnesty, is that the best you boys got, I say let the communists have it, but every politician has to come and look us in the eyes for a day, no exception, and we tar and feather them
Posted by: Fire on the mountain at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (Mc/Y6)
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Winter is a good time for re-reading Michael Huemer's "The Problem of Political Authority"
Posted by: Oglebay at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (2ap+5)
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You know what's really chapping my hide? Fox has that retard Ro Khanna on all the time.
Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (UjdFS)
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241 re 224: kane, the undertaker's brother? can't remember his name but he's been a guest on gutfeld's show
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (CWTWj)
Yes.. I've seen him there and I like him
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (CWTWj)
Yes.. I've seen him there and I like him
Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 01:13 PM (+gK6I)
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You know what's really chapping my hide?
Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM
Four words: Elizabeth Arden Hand Creme.
Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM
Four words: Elizabeth Arden Hand Creme.
Posted by: Harry Sussex at November 09, 2026 01:15 PM (0sNs1)
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Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:56 PM (Fi81e)k
There was an oriental in the Obama administration Steven Chu who wanted a permanent price per gallon for gasoline. The federal gas tax would vary day-to-day to make up the difference between the base price and the set price. "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.” It's been their policy for a long time.
There was an oriental in the Obama administration Steven Chu who wanted a permanent price per gallon for gasoline. The federal gas tax would vary day-to-day to make up the difference between the base price and the set price. "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.” It's been their policy for a long time.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 09, 2026 01:15 PM (wGerL)
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Nude
Posted by: Oglebay at November 09, 2026 01:15 PM (2ap+5)
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I know people here get tired of my expanding fascism past the Nazis and the Italians, and pretty much want to maintain the same definition as the Left-- but what Galloway said is 100% fascist.
What Galloway is talking about, I assume, is Musk not volunteering Starlink to the Ukrainian cause. He should be considered a traitor and executed because the government would have his cooperation--and didn't get it!!
How dare somebody resist the State's plan!! That suggest that they live under a "different set of rules"!!
That's fascist.
What Galloway is talking about, I assume, is Musk not volunteering Starlink to the Ukrainian cause. He should be considered a traitor and executed because the government would have his cooperation--and didn't get it!!
How dare somebody resist the State's plan!! That suggest that they live under a "different set of rules"!!
That's fascist.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:15 PM (Fi81e)
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But deep down, no one wants to go there and really solve this.
Posted by: Leupold at November 09, 2026 01:08 PM (VRTat)
True
Posted by: Leupold at November 09, 2026 01:08 PM (VRTat)
True
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:17 PM (RZ+Ww)
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He might have some kind of an angle on this. Play, make friends but don't give up anything. At least the tone has been sent.
He is the only person that could do what he did with deportations.
Wait and see I guess.
He is the only person that could do what he did with deportations.
Wait and see I guess.
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 09, 2026 01:19 PM (NtVYv)
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Fun while it lasted. Turns out he was always just a politician like the rest.
Posted by: Milk Milk Lemonade at November 09, 2026 01:24 PM (blIQ6)
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John Thune does what he is told to do. That's the reason he was put in his position. That's the reason Trump has been blocked by his own party.
Posted by: Case at November 09, 2026 01:24 PM (En+fz)
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amnesty bill that would normalize illegal aliens who have been here for some period of time -- say 10-15 years.
Only career criminals are being rewarded? I wonder if they get their own Social Security number instead of the Civil War veteran's they've been using.
Only career criminals are being rewarded? I wonder if they get their own Social Security number instead of the Civil War veteran's they've been using.
Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2026 01:27 PM (bkqk1)
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It's so easy - implement e-Verify+
Mandatory for every US business.
Watch illegal immigration magically disappear without government agents lifting a finger.
Mandatory for every US business.
Watch illegal immigration magically disappear without government agents lifting a finger.
Posted by: Master Blaster at November 09, 2026 02:14 PM (FEAjO)
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Trump can't get a George Bush level approval rating unless he push W's policies.
Forever War--Check
Amnesty--Check.
Forever War--Check
Amnesty--Check.
Posted by: Eddie Baby at November 09, 2026 02:14 PM (s19xO)
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You don't pick Steven Miller to be CoS if your plan is to be an immigration dove....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 09, 2026 02:15 PM (1ns3n)
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