JD Vance: Let's Face It, the Real Takeaway From the Election Is That Trump Is a Warmonger and We Have to Embrace the Anti-Israel Policies of My Good Friend Tucker Carlson

JD Vance has repudiated Trump's prosecution of the war with Iran.

We should be being nice to 9th century savages who are building nuclear weapons. Look at Europe -- just being nice to them works every time!

Vice President JD Vance on Wednesday called for a major pivot in the Trump administration's priorities after the Republicans lost control of the House and Senate in the Tuesday evening midterm contests.
Democrats took Senate seats not just in battleground states, but in typically Republican bastions like Texas, Kansas, and South Carolina. Vance, for his part, acknowledged that the administration had lost large portions of reliable voters.
"The reason we lost is the war," he posted on X. "The president himself said so last night. If you'd like to argue it was worth it, that losing the Senate for the next 6 years was worth it, then do so. Argue it was a worthwhile cost to pay. Agree or disagree, that's at least honest," Vance went on. "But everyone knows why we lost. And any honest conversation about where we go from here must start there."

There's no doubt the Iran War was a major issue:

Byron York
@ByronYork
From exit polls, the percentage of voters who ranked a particular issue a "crucial or major factor" in deciding their vote, followed by the percentage of them who voted Democrat:
90% Government corruption (56%)
89% Cost of living (58%)
74% Iran (63%)
73% Immigration enforcement policies (46%)
56% AI/Data centers (64%)

But "get out of Iran, leave those poor savages alone" is a big position on the left, and among the Ron Paul/Nick Fuentes Complete Isolation and Appeasement pseudoright -- who tend to vote for Democrats to show us all how much they hate us (and Israel).

Turning Israel into an enemy will make the Muslims like us.

Trust them!

JD Vance
@JDVance
One of the things the data analysts on our side obsessed over was "composition"--whether the electorate looked close enough to 2024 for Republicans to win. And despite polls that showed a Democrat blowout, the data kept on telling us the same story: in some states turnout was merely OK, in other states it was downright amazing, and in no state was it catastrophic. There was a genuine sense of optimism on our team: our people were showing up.
So, I asked the smartest data guy I know, does that mean we're going to shock the world? "No," he told me. "We might do better than the polls suggest. But the data is telling us that a lot of Trump/Vance 2024 voters are pissed and planning to vote for the other guys. Our voters are turning out, but they may not vote for us."
Well, that looks prophetic now. Our voters did show up. In Florida, for example, the electorate was 9 points more Republican than Democrat, just a couple points worse than 2024. Undoubtedly there were places we could have done better on turnout. But the main problem is not turnout. The main problem is that many people who voted for Trump/Vance in 2024 voted for Democrats in 2026.
There will be a lot of infighting and arguing over what happened and why that is. One of the pollsters I really respect told me that our economic messaging wasn't sharp enough down the stretch. I'm sure that's true.
But the real reason we lost is obvious to almost everyone.
Another pollster--one of the smartest people I know in politics, told me yesterday we'd lose the generic ballot by 13 points. I felt negative going into Tuesday, but even I was shocked by this. In his polling, he saw that a lot of Trump 2024 voters were angry and planning to vote for Democrats. He asked those voters who had abandoned us what would cause them to come back on our team. The top four answers, accounting for nearly all of the responses were:
1) End the war
2) Focus on cost of living/inflation
3) Put America First
4) Change our relationship to Israel
Our voters showed up. And the above four reasons are why many of them voted for Democrats. This is according to a pollster who nailed the results. While many spent Monday attacking Rachel Campos Duffy for calling for a diplomatic resolution to the conflict, it turns out her political advice was sound. (She's also a great person.)
In the next few months, there's going to be a lot of gaslighting. Expect to hear any number of establishment politicians say the solution to our woes is amnesty. I'm open to the idea that we should change enforcement--by focusing more on businesses that hire illegal labor, for instance. But anyone pushing amnesty is lying to you.
The reason we lost is the war. The president himself said so last night.
If you'd like to argue it was worth it, that losing the Senate for the next 6 years was worth it, then do so. Argue it was a worthwhile cost to pay. Agree or disagree, that's at least honest.
But everyone knows why we lost. And any honest conversation about where we go from here must start there.
I remain hopeful about our country. To the people who are pissed off and want to say, "I told you so": you're right, you did tell us so. Take that energy into electing Republicans who share your worldview. To the people who are just pissed at the results, you should be. Let's take that anger and get back to the work of saving our country.

JD Vance pointedly refused to endorse Beyamin Netanyahu, too. That's his choice, of course, but let's drop the pretense that he isn't just aping the politics of his close friend Tucker Carlson.

Vance has a lot of reason to want these to be the causes.
If the future of the GOP isn't through Michigan and the white working class but instead trying to win over Hispanics, there's no reason to run him.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

By the way, does JD Vance's Stronk America First Agenda include reducing the huge flow of Indians into this country to take American jobs and crash 18-wheelers into American citizens, or nah?

Nah, right?

I bet it's very important we retain a friendly relationship with India, right? And continue allowing huge transfers of population from India to the US?

Hey buddy, if you want to play this kind of politics, I'm game. Deal me in.

If you believe that Trump's divisiveness was a contributing factor to our loss (and our loss in 2022, and our "loss" in 2020), then you probably will have reservations about JD Vance's Big Smart Harvard-Educated Plan to replace Trump's divisiveness with the much more divisive divisiveness of Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes.

That's gonna be a no from me, dog. Hard pass.

Yup, it's just going to take declaring Israel an enemy.

🚨#BREAKING: Outrage is erupting from parents in Maine after public schools are now RECONSIDERING allowing kids to READ WITH FOSTER DOGS...
...over the RELIGIOUS BELIEFS of Muslims who believe dogs are "unclean"
Yes, a program where kids sit with puppies and read books is now being reviewed because of Islam.
It started at Ocean Avenue Elementary.
Students were offered the chance to step into a play pen and read alongside foster dogs.
The thought was simple: the kids get to snuggle dogs and the foster dogs... but then came a Portland school committee meeting.
Assistant Superintendent Dr. "Abdullahi Ahmed" raised how dogs are viewed in the Islamic faith.
His words: “The dog saliva is considered impure.”
Now the board is writing new policy language built around RELIGIOUS AND CULTURAL considerations that could keep dogs out of the classroom all together.
This is insane.
WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?!!!!!!!!
— Matt Van Swol (@mattvanswol) November 3, 2026

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:30 PM

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1 Good news! In day 1 of arguments on who should be the next POTUS, Vance self selected out with this bs.

Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 05:32 PM (ZdaMQ)

2 Vance looks like he cherry-picked data that show our relationship with Israel is an issue.

I sure would love a VP who simply supports the president's policies and works hard on the tasks given him by his boss.

Is he Trump's 2nd term Mike Pence?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2026 05:34 PM (k5CNB)

3 Unfortunate. My wife loves JD.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 05:34 PM (JM5dG)

4 Rubio and DeSantis 2028.

Posted by: 13times at November 04, 2026 05:34 PM (6iKlf)

5 Screw Vance and the horse he rode in on.

Posted by: Gref at November 04, 2026 05:35 PM (5rh/l)

6 He’s not the only one who thought Iran was a bad idea.

Posted by: Accomack at November 04, 2026 05:35 PM (9H7EW)

7 @1/Piper: Give a politician (any politician) enough time and they WILL disappoint you.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 04, 2026 05:35 PM (O7YUW)

8 At least republicans didn't pass the SAVE Act.

Dodged a bullet!

Posted by: 13times at November 04, 2026 05:35 PM (6iKlf)

9 And now I’m wondering if JD’s MOU was intentional sabotage.

Posted by: ColoradoMomof3 at November 04, 2026 05:36 PM (V15ME)

10 Former AoS 'ron Warden wrote this here in 2012.

It brings me comfort in times like this. I hope it brings you some too. (sorry for all the black diamonds. It's the way this post appears in the wayback machine.)

https://ace.mu.nu/archives/335824.php

Posted by: Delurker at November 04, 2026 05:36 PM (2Drhq)

11 Vance can go home and spend Family time...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 05:36 PM (4WM7K)

12 Yeah, it would be foolish to just chalk this up to the usual midterm hilarity. Ron DeSantis delivered a pretty spot-on assessment focusing on Texas. The 2028 POTUS election will be very difficult without Texas in our corner, much less retaking the Senate. His only sign of hope tracks with mine in that this was more of an anti-Trump swing than a pro-Dem/Socialist/Islam one. In two years, crime and an inevitable stall in the economy (God forbid a Biden-level recession) might bring voters back to the GOP fold. Maybe..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 04, 2026 05:36 PM (08OqX)

13 Do you know where you're going to?
Do you like the things that life is showing you?

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 04, 2026 05:36 PM (NtVYv)

14 They're putting on a show, and trying to cover whatever angles the plot may take. Cabinet members probably had to draw straws for which one took this angle. Others will cover the alternatives. It's like watching Fox commentators and thinking they're reading out their own thoughts. It's all ghostwritten, and on the prompter.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 04, 2026 05:36 PM (zdLoL)

15 Hillbilly Elegy 2 Or How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love Unemployment

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 04, 2026 05:36 PM (6rFOL)

16 Is he Trump's 2nd term Mike Pence?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

He is now. Tucker seems to like him a lot, which is not a good sign. 2nd look at DeSantis 2028 (or still first for Ace lol)?

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 04, 2026 05:37 PM (t19vo)

17 JD is either going to have to resign the VP role if he's really gonna try and build distance between himself and Trump policies or Trump will demand his resignation cause he can't have his #2 vocally opposing his agenda.
I get that JD wants to keep his POTUS viability alive, but he's joined at the hip to Trump, and there's no way he can detach while still serving as VP.
It will be very interesting to see what the GOP becomes post-MAGA, what it's platform will be and who will be it's leader.

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at November 04, 2026 05:37 PM (MNCvZ)

18 I think vance makes some good points. The bull$hit about Israel is not one of them.

The war with iran and gas prices did cost us a great number of votes, either by republicans crossing over to vote dem or by not voting at all.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 05:37 PM (I43vL)

19 I'm tanned*. Rested. Ready!

* includes tan lines

Posted by: Carly Fiorina at November 04, 2026 05:37 PM (0sNs1)

20 I don't like Vance, but the war was a bad idea.

Posted by: Don't Blame Me! at November 04, 2026 05:37 PM (cOOB0)

21
Get ready for a lot of this. Not just about Iran. Everything. And not just from Vance. Everyone.

As anyone who reads my comments knows, I've said that everyone in the GOP is just waiting out Trump. That between '26 and '28 it would be a race to see which of them can jockey themselves into a position to cannibalize MAGA, and then repudiate everything about it, and go back to Uniparty business as usual.

Well, that race just became an all out sprint. So, get behind your GOP guy. Vance, Rubio, DeSantis, whomever. It's all the same. Their masks will be ripped off soon.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 04, 2026 05:37 PM (BI5O2)

22 I have just commented on the previous thread that I am unimpressed with the Republican field of candidates for president in 2028. I believe that it's time for a Republican woman candidate and that woman is Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

She is a former press secretary in the Trump White House and a current and very competent governor of Arkansas. She has just won re-election amid all the carnage. How about it?

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2026 05:38 PM (uKqbA)

23
Now, now, let's be nice.

Never know when we'll have to cross over the aisle and beg for our lives.

Posted by: Auspex at November 04, 2026 05:38 PM (Y8DZL)

24 We all hate the GOPe Senate and John Thune particularly. After yesterday the idiot posted a self-aggrandizing claim he did a good job as caucus leader, and the excellent Cleta Mitchell let him have it, as he deserved:
No. You didn’t. You are absolutely 100% wrong. You did nothing of the sort. @NRSC Senate Republicans under YOUR “leadership” did nothing. Nothing.

You had the chance to begin the process of saving our election system from the radical left. By passing the SAVE America Act. But K Street either didn’t care or opposed it. So why bother, right?

Because the GOP Senate only does what can be monetized via those endless lobbyist dinners / fundraisers. If it can’t raise you money? Probably not worth doing.

And you BERATED @BasedMikeLee for trying to get you to work full weeks, to try to pass the SAVE America Act. Or to work a weekend sometime. Or not to recess for weeks in March and then again recess for a month in August. You and your fellow GOP Senators told him that nobody cared about the SAVE America Act. That he needed to sit down and shut up.

And the American people watched you.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 05:38 PM (Lhncr)

25 I like De Santis, I am just not sure he has charisma to be pres

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 04, 2026 05:38 PM (NtVYv)

26 I think you can wipe your ladydick with these exit polls.

The top concern was ‘Government corruption’ and 56% of those people voted Democrap? Higher than Iran? Higher than high prices?

No fucking way. When a poll or any procedure generates a patently absurd result it calls into question the entire thing.

We got fisted with a Rollerball glove yesterday, that’s for sure. But the reason wasn’t that the GOP didn’t take corruption seriously enough.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 04, 2026 05:38 PM (YSu2G)

27 You are literally a shill for a foreign country full of people who view 98 percent of Americans as human-shaped animals, merely Noahide cattle.

No wonder you never found the love of a woman. LOL

Posted by: lol at November 04, 2026 05:39 PM (Ae0zL)

28 2 Vance looks like he cherry-picked data that show our relationship with Israel is an issue.

I sure would love a VP who simply supports the president's policies and works hard on the tasks given him by his boss.

Is he Trump's 2nd term Mike Pence?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2026

I think it’s almost worse, because for a hot minute, he had so many things going for him. What is dishonest about this diatribe is he was a big contributor to Iran being the cluster it ended up being with the endless negotiations that weren’t. Now the buck stops with Trump, of course. But that doesn’t absolve Vance of his role.

As for his Israel comment, this is something we all need to get serious about - I thought the Tucker Carlson / Candy O crowd were distractions. I was wrong. And it’s not good.

Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 05:39 PM (ZdaMQ)

29 I like J.D. He's a poor kid from a dysfunctional family that left Kentucky to risk at all for the Middletown, Ohio dream. I honestly could not imagine growing up with that background and not being susceptible to some sketchy theories, mainly because I came from the same background and my family fell for the zaniest religious garbage this side of Heaven's Gate. I feel good about JD and confident he will figure it out.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 04, 2026 05:39 PM (2ap+5)

30
Rubio and DeSantis 2028.
Posted by: 13times

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Would that be 2 Floridians and therefore a no?

I'll take Rubio and Tulsi. Honestly, throw a woman on that ticket and see if it floats. The Dems are going to have one -- if not two.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 05:39 PM (mmrXZ)

31 Our relationship with Israel is an issue. It shouldn't be, but Bush and Obama imported millions of Muslims, gave them tenured university positions and civil service jobs, and made it a "hate crime" to criticize them. This is the result.

2026 may be considered the first "Great Replacement" election. We're all California now. In another generation, we're going to be South Africa.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 05:40 PM (f0sNM)

32 I’m totally sure that JD can bring this home for us in 2028, guys. Totally!

Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 04, 2026 05:40 PM (YSu2G)

33 The war was not a bad idea. Not finishing the war was a bad idea.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 05:40 PM (Lhncr)

34 It will be very interesting to see what the GOP becomes post-MAGA, what it's platform will be and who will be it's leader.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at November 04, 2026 05:37 PM

We sublimated the Tea Party, and we're sublimating "MAGA".

Onward!

Posted by: GOPe, a wholly-owned subsidary of (D)emocrat Party at November 04, 2026 05:40 PM (0sNs1)

35 He doesn't have nearly the jobs experience Marco does.

And now he never will.

Posted by: DaveA at November 04, 2026 05:40 PM (FhXTo)

36 So we are at the part of grieving where we all grab Nerf Bats and beat each other? Thats my favorite part tbh.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 05:40 PM (lLeLE)

37 It's OK to let Iran Build only a Kilo Ton Nuke Capacity...

These are only "MOSTLY PEACEFUL SMALL NUKES"...

What could go wrong ????

Posted by: mike hunt at November 04, 2026 05:40 PM (u322d)

38 Gas won't get any cheaper if Iran goes nuclear.

Trump's real mistake was doing it before the midterms. All Iran had to do to damage him the most is drag it out, just dig in and hold on on a limited time frame. That's too big an advantage to grant your enemy.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 04, 2026 05:40 PM (Fwea8)

39 So, what I'm seeing in this Vance and others postmortem is Trump voters who didn't show up really want to offer up their children and lives to foreign invaders and a strange religion. Iz that about right?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 04, 2026 05:40 PM (+ePcn)

40 Why are we even considering foreigners views on anything let alone dogs?

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 05:40 PM (czPqD)

41 JD Vance has repudiated Trump's prosecution of the war with Iran"

Well, so do I. It is stupid, and I'll say so. Piss away the goodwill of just a few months ago.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 05:41 PM (pfXMo)

42 22 I have just commented on the previous thread that I am unimpressed with the Republican field of candidates for president in 2028. I believe that it's time for a Republican woman candidate and that woman is Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

She is a former press secretary in the Trump White House and a current and very competent governor of Arkansas. She has just won re-election amid all the carnage. How about it?
Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2026 05:38 PM (uKqbA)
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Not just no but hell to the fuck no.

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 05:41 PM (5aZAZ)

43 33 The war was not a bad idea. Not finishing the war was a bad idea.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 05:40 PM (Lhncr)

NO SIR! Starting the bombing campaign was a bad idea.

Pussy footing around after starting it and going on Social Media Blathering about how a deal is coming is also a bad idea.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 05:41 PM (lLeLE)

44
Replace Vance with Bessent.

Pink Tide, 28!

Posted by: Auspex at November 04, 2026 05:41 PM (Y8DZL)

45 Honestly, throw a woman on that ticket and see if it floats.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 05:39 PM

With or without a Mae West?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 04, 2026 05:41 PM (0sNs1)

46 I did not think today would be the day America would commit suicide. I thought it might be 2029ish.

Posted by: Johnny Cakes at November 04, 2026 05:41 PM (0OHKH)

47 Would that be 2 Floridians and therefore a no?

I'll take Rubio and Tulsi. Honestly, throw a woman on that ticket and see if it floats. The Dems are going to have one -- if not two.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 05:39 PM

It's 100% gonna be kamala in 2028 for the dems. They will do a sham primary and anoint her again.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 05:42 PM (I43vL)

48 17 JD is either going to have to resign the VP role if he's really gonna try and build distance between himself and Trump policies or Trump will demand his resignation cause he can't have his #2 vocally opposing his agenda.
I get that JD wants to keep his POTUS viability alive, but he's joined at the hip to Trump, and there's no way he can detach while still serving as VP.
It will be very interesting to see what the GOP becomes post-MAGA, what it's platform will be and who will be it's leader.

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at November 04, 2026 05:37 PM (MNCvZ)

JD better not resign. Trump will never get a replacement VP approved by Congress, not with Democrat majorities in both houses, If JD resigns, is not replaced, then Trump dies from health problems or assassination, Hakeem Jeffries, Speaker of the House, instantly becomes President.

Posted by: Gref at November 04, 2026 05:42 PM (5rh/l)

49 I don't get the dogpile on JD Vance. I'm as pro-zionist as I can be and still be be functional, but that aside, the Iran war lasting as long as it has was indeed the reason we lost the midterms. The costs were hard and we are not a people that pay hard costs anymore. We want it easy and pure.

Trump probably had his reasons to hit Iran but hard as we hit, we didn't do enough to resolve the situation and win.

I suspect Trump was willing to pay the political cost and now...we are.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:42 PM (s1VwS)

50 >>I think you can wipe your ladydick with these exit polls.

Accurate and eloquently stated.

Since when do we give any weight to the Exit Polling Data?

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2026 05:42 PM (/izzV)

51 BTW, whoever you pick is the designated loser in '28. That hasn't changed. That was always the case. This blowout just bumped up the timetable.

The next two years are the last unscripted politics you'll ever see. It was a wild ride, without the script. I hope Trump makes the final act a good one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 04, 2026 05:42 PM (BI5O2)

52
I like De Santis, I am just not sure he has charisma to be pres
Posted by: Hatari

================

That's exactly how I feel, and it's funny, because he's the boldest conservative governor in the nation.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 05:42 PM (mmrXZ)

53 That's too big an advantage to grant your enemy."

This.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 05:42 PM (pfXMo)

54 Tucker has entered the conversation. I'm out.

Posted by: Case at November 04, 2026 05:42 PM (En+fz)

55 43 33 The war was not a bad idea. Not finishing the war was a bad idea.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 05:40 PM (Lhncr)

Why did Trump dick around ???

Why didn't he just level the place when he started it ???

If Iran lites off a Nuke ... Oil will be $300 barrel....

Posted by: mike hunt at November 04, 2026 05:43 PM (jGtoG)

56 49,

Agreed.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 05:43 PM (pfXMo)

57 >>I don't get the dogpile on JD Vance. I'm as pro-zionist as I can be and still be be functional, but that aside, the Iran war lasting as long as it has was indeed the reason we lost the midterms.

JD was the reason we stopped applying direct military pressure. He demanded the negotiations with Qatar and Pakistan. Almost like he has a good friend with close ties to both.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2026 05:43 PM (/izzV)

58 26 I think you can wipe your ladydick with these exit polls.

A man of culture.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 05:44 PM (lLeLE)

59 1 Good news! In day 1 of arguments on who should be the next POTUS, Vance self selected out with this bs.
Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 05:32 PM (ZdaMQ)

Yep. That takes care of that.

Also, change our relationship with Israel? To what? I don't think breaking alliance with Israel is the way to appease conservatives and Christians.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 04, 2026 05:44 PM (zYpTz)

60 If Trump hadn't attacked Iran, we probably would have done much better in the midterms. How we'd look globally and strategically would depend on how real the threat of Iran getting nukes is...and continuing to fuck up the middle east so Lefties can whine about Palestine more.

Bibi, buddy...times ticking away for you, too. You need to figure out what lasting peace with the Palestinians looks like, and ruthlessly execute in the next 12 months. Emphasis on "execute".

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 04, 2026 05:44 PM (t19vo)

61 I personally am pro-Israel.

But do you think most voters are pro-Israel enough to want a long, drawn out expensive war with Iran.

Think about America now...its not old white guys anymore.

The Mexican guy, the Indian guy, the Chinese guy.

And we have had a long long war with Iraq that was not very pleasant either.,

Do not read this and then say YOU MUST HATE ISRAEL.

No, I don't but the coalition for Israel isn't growing and even JEWISH VOTERS VOTED FOR AL SAYED.

So....

Posted by: Harun at November 04, 2026 05:44 PM (IuIym)

62 Also part of this is the immediate gratification society we live in. This was good news for the dems this election, but bad news for them starting in January.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 04, 2026 05:44 PM (n5tGW)

63 Trump ran rings around Marco in the debates. Absolutely pantsed him. Left him spinning, repeating scripted lines. He'll have to become a MUCH better campaigner if he's going to have a shot.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 04, 2026 05:44 PM (Fwea8)

64
JD's one foot in and one foot out strategy is coming to a head. He's jumping all in with the Tucker idiocy. Forget Vance.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 04, 2026 05:45 PM (OkYzo)

65 Supporting Israel is not a long term winner: every culture wants them dead or quiet and there aren’t very many of them. The false premise is peace with eye slam when the Jews are sequestered.
The democrats identified another wedge and hammered on it.
The Jews need a plan B because plan A has expired.

Posted by: Accomack at November 04, 2026 05:45 PM (9H7EW)

66 Will Russia now believe they have GREEN LITE to do whatever they want ???

Posted by: mike hunt at November 04, 2026 05:45 PM (jGtoG)

67 The issues with Israel are secondary... if at all. It's people parroting what they've heard, or think they should say.

These same people will, in the next month or so, claim we should be arming Iran.

*shrugs*

The general population isn't really worthy of saving. Not if they keep acting like this.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 04, 2026 05:45 PM (RORbl)

68 "Our voters showed up."

Well, no they didn't.

It doesn't matter anyway because there is going to be no savior for the USA. It's not going to get any better.

Posted by: fd at November 04, 2026 05:45 PM (MWfyi)

69 I don’t think the war was it - can we say Ukraine? They just had a torture chamber emptied of abused 14 year olds.

Y’all, we need to dig a little deeper. We gave the GOP the house, the senate and the presidency. In return, we couldn’t even get id for voting.

Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 05:45 PM (ZdaMQ)

70 If Iran lites off a Nuke"

They'll cook themselves first.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 05:45 PM (pfXMo)

71 The war with iran and gas prices did cost us a great number of votes, either by republicans crossing over to vote dem or by not voting at all.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 05:37 PM (I43vL)

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Since Trump has already been damned for it he might as well go all out now and finish the war. The election is over now go all out and finish the Iran war, quick and hard. No more bomb, stop, negotiate, bomb. Keep going until no IRCG infrastructure exists, if you must destroy bridges and roads then do so.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2026 05:45 PM (uKqbA)

72 Since when do we give any weight to the Exit Polling Data?

You can give weight to this.

The American Public likes a public, brutal, quick war. We LOVED the idea of Pappy Bush and Stormin' Norman going through the Iraqis like shit through a goose.

The American Public DOES NOT like shit like 'Nam. Or Korea. Or how Trump did On Again, Off Again with Iran.

Or occupying shit like Iraq or anything that rhymes with 'Stan. Because that's just awful. Body bags come home every day. Not how America likes it.

End of Story. And I'm as surprised as anyone that 2016 Trump fell into the 2024 Trump Trap this badly.

Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 05:46 PM (E4EjS)

73 It's funny how they never worry if only one Christian is offended.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 04, 2026 05:46 PM (n5tGW)

74 25 I like De Santis, I am just not sure he has charisma to be pres

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 04, 2026 05:38 PM (NtVYv)

DeStantis is a good choice as he's the only candidate with a proven executive office track record. He was also a congressman for years so he has that experience, too.

His problem is his campaign style, especially nationally.
He would be perfect for actual governance, I believe, but it's winning enough elections to get there that might hurt him.

Depending on who he's running against he might have an esier time of it, and maybe he's learned something from running against Trump in 2024.

If DeSantis is serious about running in '28 hew needs to land on the ground running starting early next year to compete with Vance or Rubio.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 04, 2026 05:46 PM (6ydKt)

75 So the move on to 28 can officially begin now. Conyn/DeWine 28!!!!

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 05:46 PM (Gqar8)

76 "Would that be 2 Floridians and therefore a no?" One of them can move to Texas.

We have an excellent bullpen, best in years, and repubs want to toss them out because no vag? If people are bent on voting for a female ticket we're just fucked anyhow. Two years ago people were calling Tulsi "Drakes coffee cake face" because Seinfeld is funny or something.

Posted by: 13times at November 04, 2026 05:46 PM (6iKlf)

77 Ends my liking of Vance

Posted by: Skip at November 04, 2026 05:46 PM (Ia/+0)

78 57 >>I don't get the dogpile on JD Vance. I'm as pro-zionist as I can be and still be be functional, but that aside, the Iran war lasting as long as it has was indeed the reason we lost the midterms.

JD was the reason we stopped applying direct military pressure. He demanded the negotiations with Qatar and Pakistan. Almost like he has a good friend with close ties to both.
Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2026 05:43 PM (/izzV)

I don't know much about the behind the scenes business there. If he is why the war has been soft soap, that's probably disqualifying. I don't see him as being butt buddies with Tucker but again, I may be out of the loop here.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:46 PM (s1VwS)

79 It will be very interesting to see what the GOP becomes post-MAGA

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????

No it won't. Nothing could be any less interesting than that. The GOP hasn't changed one iota since 2015 - and 2015 is exactly what the post-MAGA GOP will look like. They can *finally* quit forcing MAGA platitudes through clenched teeth, and go back to normal.

(D)racula has his (R)enfield back where he belongs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 04, 2026 05:46 PM (BI5O2)

80 Damn straight. This is the party of MIKE ROGERS

Posted by: 80sfan at November 04, 2026 05:47 PM (kICCO)

81 But "get out of Iran, leave those poor savages alone" is a big position on the left, and among the Ron Paul/Nick Fuentes Complete Isolation and Appeasement pseudoright -- who tend to vote for Democrats to show us all how much they hate us (and Israel).
Turning Israel into an enemy will make the Muslims like us.
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Yeah, Vance may have the pulse of the young and ignorant, but I don't think I trust him enough to vote for him.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 04, 2026 05:47 PM (vSvIl)

82 "JD was the reason we stopped applying direct military pressure. He demanded the negotiations with Qatar and Pakistan."

Dear people who believe this shit...

DONALD TRUMP posted him to that job.

DONALD TRUMP had his cabinet vote and Hegseth and Rubio said yes to war, and Vance said no.

So, Trump gave him the task of negotiating with Iran.

Oh, yeah, that sounds easy. JFC.

Trump started the war, then wanted to tap out and send JD in. Its not JD's fault.

I'm not sure I want JD for president but I also now worry about Rubio.

Posted by: Harun at November 04, 2026 05:47 PM (IuIym)

83 I have friends who constantly post pictures and vids of lost dogs or adoptable dogs. I'm sure if you showed the story about the Islamic guy they'd think it was no big deal

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2026 05:47 PM (8VNAp)

84 Also, change our relationship with Israel? To what? I don't think breaking alliance with Israel is the way to appease conservatives and Christians.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 04, 2026 05:44 PM (zYpTz)

The deal announced is gonna just be a rearrangement of money payment into credits for Fighter Jets they keep buying from us. Most of the usual suspects already covered it about as eloquently as a person blinded by hatred can.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 05:47 PM (lLeLE)

85 49 I don't get the dogpile on JD Vance. I'm as pro-zionist as I can be and still be be functional, but that aside, the Iran war lasting as long as it has was indeed the reason we lost the midterms. The costs were hard and we are not a people that pay hard costs anymore. We want it easy and pure.

Trump probably had his reasons to hit Iran but hard as we hit, we didn't do enough to resolve the situation and win.

I suspect Trump was willing to pay the political cost and now...we are.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:42 PM (s1VwS)

I think the main reason Trump didn't keep-on destroying the IRGC is we ran too low for comfort on missile and drone defense missiles. We also were getting too low on cruise missiles, smart bombs, and air-to-ground missiles.

Posted by: Gref at November 04, 2026 05:47 PM (5rh/l)

86 Also part of this is the immediate gratification society we live in. This was good news for the dems this election, but bad news for them starting in January.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

I'll give it til March before the bitching and screeching starts.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 05:47 PM (r2Icn)

87 75 So the move on to 28 can officially begin now. Conyn/DeWine 28!!!!
Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 05:46 PM (Gqar

awwww mannnnnnnn I was really hoping for Dole / JEB!

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 05:48 PM (lLeLE)

88 69 I don’t think the war was it - can we say Ukraine? They just had a torture chamber emptied of abused 14 year olds.

Y’all, we need to dig a little deeper. We gave the GOP the house, the senate and the presidency. In return, we couldn’t even get id for voting.
Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 05:45 PM (ZdaMQ)

The GOPe can't fundraise off of winning. They like losing, they have a taste for it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:48 PM (s1VwS)

89 I don't know much about the behind the scenes business there."

No one here does. Much supposing going on

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 05:48 PM (pfXMo)

90 After warning us, repeatedly, that Trump, being a true threat to Democracy, wouldn't allow this election to happen, or would repudiate the results via the military, the Democrats now will vote to cancel the Electoral College, pack the SCOTUS, pass nationwide mail-in voting and try to make PR & DC states to pack the Senate.
In other words, they are gonna facilitate an end to our Democracy.
Ironic, eh?

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at November 04, 2026 05:48 PM (MNCvZ)

91 Trump fell into one of the classic blunders and it bit us in the a**

couple that with a feckless, dog shit GOP and an energized, bloodlust filled, marxist, ascendent democrat party, and you're looking at a total repudiation and shellacking that will take a decade at a minimum to unwind, if at all.

We lost f**king Texas for G-ds sake.

That's not going to be easy to overcome.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 04, 2026 05:48 PM (XV/Pl)

92 There were a lot of "people" that really jumped on the Israel hate, and used the Iran war to "prove" Trump was Netanyahu's puppet. Some of them recognize a "small problem" with Islamic expansionism, but Israel is their devil, even though Israel (imo) is on the front line against Islam.

Still hard to say if it is the globalists pushing these color revolutions, that are now pushed inside USA, as well as Europe. They Islamists and China both seem ready to destroy the West, and that makes the globalists happy.

Too bad the commie march through our institutions is still ongoing, though perhaps it is the "globalists" that are in charge now (with their own brand of communism).

Posted by: illiniwek at November 04, 2026 05:48 PM (vbXSk)

93 There has always been a tension between two of Trump's promises:

No more forever wars, especially in the Middle East.

Iran must not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.

That last promise was never going to be solved by asking them nicely. Unless Trump wanted to kick the can down the road like all past presidents have done, force was going to have to be applied to Iran.

Although I am usually happy to give Trump the benefit of the doubt, he didn't sell this war very well. And the constant announcements that a deal was in place when there was no such deal that Iran was interested in honoring didn't help.

It would have been much easier if Trump had the Senate on his side and could have just pounded the shit out of Iran until they sued for peace.

Posted by: No Name Today at November 04, 2026 05:48 PM (8mulE)

94 Maybe the big problem with Iran is it seemed optional and it was jarring that future Nobel Peace Prize Donald Trump chose the war option.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 04, 2026 05:48 PM (2ap+5)

95 JD is about my age and what I think is happening is that he's still trying to salvage his youth by being Cool and Hip and appearing on PODCASTS and hanging out with the Super Cool New Media Bros and getting those sweet sweet clicks and likes and follows.

Everyone wants to be Joe fucking Rogan. The VPOTUS should probably skip trying to be Joe fucking Rogan and concentrate on not looking like a wandering Millennial with no actual identity. Grow up.

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 05:49 PM (5aZAZ)

96 Imagine people thinking JD Vance the Vice President could "demand" Trump do anything.

LOL

"He demanded the negotiations with Qatar and Pakistan."

Trump said OH SHIT THIS WAR ISN'T GOING LIKE I ASSUMED, AND JD VANCE WAS THE ONLY GUY TO VOTE AGAINST IT, SO I WILL SEND HIM TO NEGOTIATE.

Gee thanks, Trump.

Posted by: Harun at November 04, 2026 05:49 PM (IuIym)

97 Da fuq is this guy thinking?

Way to torpedo your chances, along with regaining any momentum in ‘28

🤦‍♂️

Posted by: browndog rounding the bases at November 04, 2026 05:49 PM (4Euth)

98
>>Outrage is erupting from parents in Maine

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I watched the vid. No outrage was shown in the news story; that X headline might be clickbait. The video shows that school officials feel sorry for little Muslim kids who can't pet the puppies and they're trying to find a way to be inclusive about it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 05:49 PM (mmrXZ)

99 So the move on to 28 can officially begin now.

Tepes/Pinochet 2028

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 05:49 PM (f0sNM)

100 No, I don't but the coalition for Israel isn't growing and even JEWISH VOTERS VOTED FOR AL SAYED.

This is why I stopped giving a shit about this issue waaaaayyyyyy back over there somewhere in 2018 or some shit.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 05:49 PM (lLeLE)

101 Also, change our relationship with Israel? To what? I don't think breaking alliance with Israel is the way to appease conservatives and Christians.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

We're all Christian, and think we have a lot more in common with Islam. They revere Christ just like us, while the Jews killed him!

Posted by: Unitarian Universalists, United Church of Christ (UCC), Episcopal Church, Evangelical Lutheran Churc at November 04, 2026 05:49 PM (t19vo)

102 I think the main reason Trump didn't keep-on destroying the IRGC is we ran too low for comfort on missile and drone defense missiles. We also were getting too low on cruise missiles, smart bombs, and air-to-ground missiles.
Posted by: Gref at November 04, 2026 05:47 PM (5rh/l)

jah, we've had munitions shortfalls for sure. I want to see a lot more manufacturing there but I suppose it is harder getting that up and running without an Imperial dictate ala FDR.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:49 PM (s1VwS)

103
China has to be considered before you go all in on Iran.

They might not be able to take Taiwan, but they would be a problem with a depleted U.S. arms stockpile.

Posted by: Auspex at November 04, 2026 05:50 PM (Y8DZL)

104 House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., drew progressive criticism Wednesday after saying Democrats should focus on lowering costs following their midterm victories instead of getting "even" with the Trump administration.

"The American people don't want us to get even; they want us to get things done on their behalf because life is way too expensive," Jeffries said

We will see ..............

Posted by: Jackson K. at November 04, 2026 05:50 PM (jGtoG)

105 99 So the move on to 28 can officially begin now.

Tepes/Pinochet 2028
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 05:49 PM (f0sNM)

Maduro is avaiable

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 05:50 PM (4WM7K)

106
Maybe the big problem with Iran is it seemed optional and it was jarring that future Nobel Peace Prize Donald Trump chose the war option.
Posted by: Oglebay

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I don't know that Iran was optional. But I do wish we'd exercise another option and assassinate the leaders.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 05:50 PM (mmrXZ)

107 I still don't get the corruption angle in voting. I have completely missed the boat on any stories on this except for learing centers et al.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (n5tGW)

108 I sure would love a VP who simply supports the president's policies and works hard on the tasks given him by his boss.
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2026 05:34 PM (k5CNB)

Jog my memory, please. I seem to remember there was some big deal about Vance taking charge of something, but I cannot recall what. Was it like DOGE 2.0 or such?

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (vSvIl)

109 What if - Vance doesn’t want to be Pesident in 28? What if - he wants to be a Pundit?

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (Gqar8)

110 I watched the vid. No outrage was shown in the news story; that X headline might be clickbait. The video shows that school officials feel sorry for little Muslim kids who can't pet the puppies and they're trying to find a way to be inclusive about it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Give them a guinea pig and tell them not to kill and eat it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (r2Icn)

111 Why is not giving a shit about ANY other country a dog whistle?

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (enNUy)

112 1) End the war
2) Focus on cost of living/inflation
3) Put America First
4) Change our relationship to Israel

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Before the election, this is basically what man on the street, politicos (rational ones) and common sense told us. This isn't controversial.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (iOpI2)

113 I am hoping Rubio wants the job

Posted by: Skip at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (Ia/+0)

114 >>>>>>>>>>
I'm not sure I want JD for president but I also now worry about Rubio.
Posted by: Harun
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Either of them will be better than anybody the Dems put up.

Posted by: Cosda at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (FVUW0)

115 IMHO, what's going to kill the country is the debt. Debt spending is the real driver behind inflation. And neither party is going to do anything about it before it crashes and burns.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (f0sNM)

116 She is a former press secretary in the Trump White House and a current and very competent governor of Arkansas. She has just won re-election amid all the carnage. How about it?
Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2026 05:38 PM (uKqbA)
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Not just no but hell to the fuck no.
Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 05:41 PM (5aZAZ)

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Why? What is your objection?

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (uKqbA)

117 DeSantis said the same thing and he's right.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (iOpI2)

118 Pass the popcorn as MAGA tears itself apart. Lol.

Texas is Blue you losers.

Posted by: Blue Texas at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (RuJl7)

119 Tepes/Pinochet 2028
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 05:49 PM (f0sNM)

Sulla/Pinochet

Posted by: dantesed at November 04, 2026 05:52 PM (Oy/m2)

120 We lost f**king Texas for G-ds sake.

That's not going to be easy to overcome.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 04, 2026 05:48 PM (XV/Pl)

Meh, I'm not horribly worried about it... The invisible hand always slaps last and slaps hardest. Watermelon Dems are gonna pressure Hilodildo with greenie wet dreams and she'll have to figure out how to beat them back so she doesn't lose the Gov Mansion.

Tldr; she's about to be welcomed to The Suck!(tm)

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 05:52 PM (lLeLE)

121 I think Vance is taking the reasonable line that we should just treat Israel like we do any other country/ally and not give them preferential treatment

hes getting shit on by a lot of innuendo that just isnt true, and I think hes distanced himself from tucker after he went batshit insane

Still i welcome a Rubio vs Vance vs DeSantis primary fight and may the best man win, Ill easily vote for any of them

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - FAP Certified at November 04, 2026 05:52 PM (fapp/)

122 There were a lot of "people" that really jumped on the Israel hate, and used the Iran war to "prove" Trump was Netanyahu's puppet.

There are a lot of people that didn't grow up during the Cold War. So they just don't agree that we have to back this or that nation because to not back them would be mistake. Or, worse yet, Damn us all to Hell.

Now bring in the Bible. Not going to change many minds of the cohort that voted en masse for Democrats last night.

Hell ... not going to change many Jewish minds. That voted en masse for Democrats last night.

Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 05:52 PM (E4EjS)

123 Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (vSvIl)

Vance is supposed to be heading up some anti-fraud thing. He's handled it like Kamala handled the border.

Posted by: Delurker at November 04, 2026 05:52 PM (2Drhq)

124 107 I still don't get the corruption angle in voting. I have completely missed the boat on any stories on this except for learing centers et al.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (n5tGW)

All the Dems have been fundraising about the 'corruption in the white house', not details, just hate mongering. It clearly had an effect, as all propaganda does.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:52 PM (s1VwS)

125 “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical a**hole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler. How’s that for discouraging?”

"Vance has publicly acknowledged the comment, saying he was skeptical of Trump in 2016 but that Trump’s performance as president changed his mind."

Posted by: 13times at November 04, 2026 05:52 PM (6iKlf)

126 Posted by: Unitarian Universalists, United Church of Christ (UCC), Episcopal Church, Evangelical Lutheran Churc at November 04, 2026 05:49 PM (t19vo)

Hey! What about us?

Posted by: United Methodists at November 04, 2026 05:52 PM (Y8DZL)

127 DONALD TRUMP had his cabinet vote and Hegseth and Rubio said yes to war, and Vance said no.

So, Trump gave him the task of negotiating with Iran.

Oh, yeah, that sounds easy. JFC.

Trump started the war, then wanted to tap out and send JD in. Its not JD's fault.

I'm not sure I want JD for president but I also now worry about Rubio.

Posted by: Harun at November 04, 2026 05:47 PM

The war with iran has nothing to do with my changing opinion of vance. When he suggested that we throw Israel under the bus to appease the left then he lost my vote.

After last night the war with Iran is over, for good or bad it is over now. Trump will get in another strike or two before the democrats take over but the war is over and iran won thanks to the democrats.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 05:52 PM (I43vL)

128 I have doubts anything more will happen in next two years.
The Marxists will grind everything to a halt

Posted by: Skip at November 04, 2026 05:53 PM (Ia/+0)

129 Still i welcome a Rubio vs Vance vs DeSantis primary fight and may the best man win, Ill easily vote for any of them
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - FAP Certified at November 04, 2026 05:52 PM (fapp/)

Jah, any of the three is going to be better than whatever puppets the DNC put up.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:53 PM (s1VwS)

130 So what will congress do to "lower costs?"

I think we all know.

Subsidize demand. Its all they know how to do.

Posted by: Harun at November 04, 2026 05:53 PM (IuIym)

131 "Outrage is erupting from parents in Maine after public schools are now RECONSIDERING allowing kids to READ WITH FOSTER DOGS...

...over the RELIGIOUS BELIEFS of Muslims who believe dogs are "unclean"

Yes, a program where kids sit with puppies and read books is now being reviewed because of Islam."

Bad news: there is going to be another run on ammo causing prices to rise.

Good news: there will be a run on shelter dogs for women and families that need a foolproof way to keep aggressive Jihadists at bay.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 04, 2026 05:53 PM (HlyYF)

132 We bombed every legitimate military target in Iran within the first two weeks, the problem is, once you run out of military targets and the enemy hasn't surrendered, your only option is to hit civilian targets, or send in ground troops and essentially occupy Iran.

We we were never going to do.

This pretty much the stupidest thing I've ever witnessed from an administration and that includes Bush, Obama and Biden.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 04, 2026 05:53 PM (XV/Pl)

133 1) End the war
2) Focus on cost of living/inflation
3) Put America First
4) Change our relationship to Israel

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Instead, Republicans ran on...

1.) Democrats are socialists
2.) Didn't you hear what I said, Democrats are socialists!
3.) DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALISTS!!!!!
4.) Democrats are socialists

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 05:54 PM (f0sNM)

134 I don't like Vance, but the war was a bad idea.
Posted by: Don't Blame Me! at November 04, 2026 05:37 PM (cOOB0)

Letting Iran have nukes is a good idea?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 04, 2026 05:54 PM (rtIvC)

135 I sure would love a VP who simply supports the president's policies and works hard on the tasks given him by his boss.
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2026 05:34 PM (k5CNB)

And hence the first fuck-up, as soon as the country was founded.

I'd rather have an Independent VP that wasn't a Yes Man for the President. You know, as Ratification was passed.

Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 05:54 PM (E4EjS)

136 And with that, I am a NeverVancer.

Posted by: Sam at November 04, 2026 05:55 PM (7jMef)

137
The GOPe can't fundraise off of winning. They like losing, they have a taste for it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:48 PM

I'm tired of playing the part of the Washington Generals.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 05:55 PM (czPqD)

138 Vance is dead to me. A shame, because I really liked him at one point.

So.... Little Marco it is.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 05:55 PM (qlLNh)

139 Sure, Jan. In the Texas senate election, the democrat got more democrat votes than in any presidential election in history.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 04, 2026 05:55 PM (0U5gm)

140 Bad news: there is going to be another run on ammo causing prices to rise.

Good news: there will be a run on shelter dogs for women and families that need a foolproof way to keep aggressive Jihadists at bay.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 04, 2026 05:53 PM (HlyYF)

My fingers are crossed for some good Black Friday deals. I need more range ammo, I'm ok on JHP but I hate burning that in training.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:55 PM (s1VwS)

141 We lost f**king Texas for G-ds sake.

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That's what happens when you flood a state with Indians and Californicans.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 05:55 PM (f0sNM)

142 FU JD

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 04, 2026 05:56 PM (znREB)

143 139 Sure, Jan. In the Texas senate election, the democrat got more democrat votes than in any presidential election in history.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 04, 2026 05:55 PM (0U5gm)

There had to be some shading dealings there... It's well hidden whatever it was....

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 05:56 PM (4WM7K)

144 Unlimited H1Bs for Hindians.

That is a program Vance and Real Americans can get behind.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2026 05:56 PM (KuABb)

145 137
The GOPe can't fundraise off of winning. They like losing, they have a taste for it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:48 PM

I'm tired of playing the part of the Washington Generals.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 05:55 PM (czPqD)

Yeah, no kidding.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:56 PM (s1VwS)

146
Work, savings, and thrift are comic values when free money and bennies are there for the taking.

We're all welfare recipients now.

Posted by: Auspex at November 04, 2026 05:56 PM (Y8DZL)

147 ***Vice President JD Vance on Wednesday called for a major pivot in the Trump administration
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Send that fucker on a fact finding tour to Antarctica.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 04, 2026 05:56 PM (3oLMy)

148 we lost Texas because a shit load of liberals and foreigners moved in at our invatation

I wrote to Cruz, Cornyn and Nehls to ditch the ethanol in gas and save us 50 cents a gallon and go no response (Nehls gave the boilerplate thank you with no mention of the subject)

Iran has been a thorn for 50 years, they need to be removed from our existence.

Posted by: DanMan at November 04, 2026 05:56 PM (8uzBS)

149 139 Sure, Jan. In the Texas senate election, the democrat got more democrat votes than in any presidential election in history.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 04, 2026 05:55 PM (0U5gm)

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There is zero doubt that Telerico got more votes than anyone previously. It's ridiculous. Texas needs to tighten their voter rolls or process. Now they can't.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 05:56 PM (iOpI2)

150 So....

Posted by: Harun at November 04, 2026 05:44 PM (IuIym)

I don't think the attacks on Iran are only about Israel.
Certainly they, as our military ally in the middle-east, were important especially during the operations.

But to think the only reason we went to war with Israel is because Bibi wanted Trump to do it, is ludicrous.
The Iranians have been chanting "Death To The Great and Little Satan" for fifty years. But I guess the Great Satan only fights when the Little Satan tells him to?

Some people have this pie-in-the-sky notion that if the U.S. abandons 'Israel as an ally that magically the Muslims will likes us again and the world will be at peace?

That's not how Islam works.
Islam will never be at true peace until they've conquered the world and there is no more and the Dar al-Harb is gone, ruled forever by the Dar al-Islam.

The radicals in Iran were building nukes, those nukes were not just a threat to Israel, as this war has shown the Iranians will shoot a missile at any country within in range.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (6ydKt)

151 130 So what will congress do to "lower costs?"

I think we all know.

Subsidize demand. Its all they know how to do.

Posted by: Harun at November 04, 2026 05:53 PM

Subsidizing demand always increases "all in" costs.

The Left has worked hard to subsidize college education and health care - resulting in the cost for those items increasing MUCH faster than the rate of inflation.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (HlyYF)

152 And here I thought that JD Vance was someone that believed in a strong America. Wow, was I wrong. At least he didn't waste any time considering him for 2028.

Saying crap like this, JD Vance will be supported by the American press in the upcoming election almost as if he was a Democrat. Of course, after listening to what he said, how can one tell the difference?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (Uvvcx)

153 On the Iran war, Trump was/is counting on the economic cost to the IRGC and mullahs collapsing them, because they had no (or little) income. Not sure how long that might take ... tick tock. Somehow the people still seem to be feeding themselves ... for now.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (vbXSk)

154 You can't let Iran have nuclear weapons. Apparently, JD Vance doesn't know that.

Posted by: dantesed at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (Oy/m2)

155 Another day. Another Handle by Scoggy who always knows "how it is" . LOL

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (JrHfD)

156 144 139 Sure, Jan. In the Texas senate election, the democrat got more democrat votes than in any presidential election in history.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 04, 2026 05:55 PM (0U5gm)

There had to be some shading dealings there... It's well hidden whatever it was....
Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 05:56 PM (4WM7K)

Not seeing or hearing any official pushback on it, donna.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (Gqar8)

157
We have an excellent bullpen, best in years, and repubs want to toss them out because no vag? If people are bent on voting for a female ticket we're just fucked anyhow. Two years ago people were calling Tulsi "Drakes coffee cake face" because Seinfeld is funny or something.
Posted by: 13times

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We've also called DeSantis "meatball." Moving to Texas so you can be on a presidential ticket in 2028 sounds like something that never happens. Do DeSantis and Rubio sit down and flip a coin or what?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (mmrXZ)

158
All the Dems have been fundraising about the 'corruption in the white house', not details, just hate mongering. It clearly had an effect, as all propaganda does.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:52 PM (s1VwS)

If it didn't work why do we have commercials and PR agencies? I don't think people realize just how well it works and they don't understand they were influenced.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (czPqD)

159 > Letting Iran have nukes is a good idea?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 04, 2026 05:54 PM (rtIvC)

Right. As I said in another thread, imagine how much better the midterms would've gone if one of our cities was now a crater full of radioactive glass.

Sometimes doing the right thing comes at a cost, and keeping those murdering savages from getting nukes is pretty close to the Rightest of All Right Things ever.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (qlLNh)

160 People thought that getting inflation under control meant prices, in general, would go back to where they were before Biden. That’s not going to happen, unless we have another Great Depression. People’s economic illiteracy is part of the problem. Trust me, you don’t want another Great Depression.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 04, 2026 05:58 PM (rtIvC)

161 All of the people under consideration are career Republican politicians, and it's almost definitely too late for any outsider to emerge.

So, a career Republican politician will be the nominee, and you will get the career Republican politician results. Which is to say, jack shit.

The time to cultivate a MAGA party with MAGA leaders has passed. The GOP regains control by default.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 04, 2026 05:58 PM (BI5O2)

162
Not seeing or hearing any official pushback on it, donna.
Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (Gqar

Me either... It's just curious

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 05:58 PM (4WM7K)

163 There is zero doubt that Telerico got more votes than anyone previously. It's ridiculous. Texas needs to tighten their voter rolls or process. Now they can't.
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 05:56 PM (iOpI2)

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Yeesh, I meant telerico did not get the votes they said he got. It's like Biden in 2020 getting more votes than anyone in history. NO.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 05:59 PM (iOpI2)

164 Remember John Cornyn saying he wanted to "teach MAGA a lesson" for not supporting him. The Texas GOPe had the knives out for Paxton.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 05:59 PM (f0sNM)

165 If Vance would have stopped at #3, I would have said ok, seems cromulent. But nope, that next one is right out. And he could have said our relationship with the Congo and it still would have been stupid.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 04, 2026 05:59 PM (n5tGW)

166 > I'm sorry, but you can't just use that line as an all-purpose justification for starting a war with a country.

I'm sorry, but you absolutely can.

Now that we've had that frank exchange of views...

GFY.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 05:59 PM (qlLNh)

167 I'm tired of playing the part of the Washington Generals.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 05:55 PM

Me too.

We are now at over 13,000 losses. Our last significant victory was in 1971.

Sounds about right to me.

Yet I am still not chomping on that black pill.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 04, 2026 06:00 PM (HlyYF)

168 Some good news, Cornyn, Collins and McTurtle will no longer be in the senate.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 04, 2026 06:00 PM (n5tGW)

169 "The American people don't want us to get even; they want us to get things done on their behalf because life is way too expensive," Jeffries said

We will see ..............

Posted by: Jackson K. at November 04, 2026 05:50 PM (jGtoG)

Sure, they feel a need to *say* things like this. I have a feeling they will feel a need to do something else entirely.

Posted by: No Name Today at November 04, 2026 06:00 PM (8mulE)

170 There is zero doubt that Telerico got more votes than anyone previously. It's ridiculous. Texas needs to tighten their voter rolls or process. Now they can't.

Lets say you are right. Lets say the DNC cheated their way to a ... and its looking like ... at least a 75 seat majority in the House.

Then, at this point, who fucking cares ? Why listen to Dave from FLA ? If its rigged, its rigged. Why care about the GOP at this point ?

Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 06:01 PM (E4EjS)

171 22 I have just commented on the previous thread that I am unimpressed with the Republican field of candidates for president in 2028. I believe that it's time for a Republican woman candidate and that woman is Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

She is a former press secretary in the Trump White House and a current and very competent governor of Arkansas. She has just won re-election amid all the carnage. How about it?
Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2026 05:38 PM (uKqbA)

She's been on my list of 3 possibles all day (DeSantis, Youngkin, Sanders)...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 06:01 PM (Gb7+b)

172 Supporting Israel is not a long term winner: every culture wants them dead or quiet and there aren’t very many of them. The false premise is peace with eye slam when the Jews are sequestered.
The democrats identified another wedge and hammered on it.
The Jews need a plan B because plan A has expired.
Posted by: Accomack at November 04, 2026 05:45 PM (9H7EW)

Every culture that wants them dead is implacably evil and natural enemies of a nation like the USA which was founded on God-given Rights.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 04, 2026 06:01 PM (vSvIl)

173 Rubio/Gabbard?

I know the Dems are scared shitless of Gabbard. Nothing freaks them out more than someone leaving the cult.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:02 PM (qlLNh)

174 152 And here I thought that JD Vance was someone that believed in a strong America. Wow, was I wrong. At least he didn't waste any time considering him for 2028.

Saying crap like this, JD Vance will be supported by the American press in the upcoming election almost as if he was a Democrat. Of course, after listening to what he said, how can one tell the difference?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (Uvvcx)

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I'm not JD's biggest fan but I think you went hyperbolic on these statements towards him.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 06:02 PM (iOpI2)

175 He's done with me, Ace.

And I liked Vance.

He's taking the same stance as GOPer's who said similar in 2025 with the first bombing of Iran's nuke facility. This is exactly when this crap started. Because he had the courage to do this, giving too much credit to wimps that it was the right thing to do. The wimps piled on and here we are. Being President is not a HS popularity contest except with Dimmycrats, or shouldn't be.

FIGHT on, President Trump!

For the entire 47yrs of our marriage no president had the cojones to stop kicking that can down the road of Iran's mullah's.

I woke up hard in 1983 with the bombing of the Marines in Beruit. It should have been done then as Iran paid Hezbollah, turned Iran into a sheet of glass.

Once I'm done I'm done and there is no going back, JD.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreatIronFistVelvetGlove at November 04, 2026 06:02 PM (hzuYO)

176
Guessing the Humane Societies have been socialist-captured by now, so yeah, killing little lost Bowser instead of feeding and sheltering he/she/it would be adab, as our islamic teachers would say.

Posted by: Auspex at November 04, 2026 06:03 PM (Y8DZL)

177 Why? What is your objection?
Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2026 05:51 PM (uKqbA)
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No more fucking nepo babies in the white house, that's my objection.

She's armpit-deep in GOPe and has been her entire life. That she made it work for a stint as Trump's Press Sec is commendable but sorry, it's a no from me, dawg.

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 06:03 PM (oqH4h)

178 5.6 million Texans voted for a guy who wants to dick chop kids if they so much as wear a pink shirt

thats messed up

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - FAP Certified at November 04, 2026 06:03 PM (fapp/)

179 171

She's been on my list of 3 possibles all day (DeSantis, Youngkin, Sanders)...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 06:01 PM (Gb7+b)

Christian Fundie from a Hillbilly State. That’ll be their play. Think, Sarah Palin, essentially.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 06:03 PM (Gqar8)

180 145 137
The GOPe can't fundraise off of winning. They like losing, they have a taste for it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:48 PM

I'm tired of playing the part of the Washington Generals.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 05:55 PM (czPqD)

Yeah, no kidding.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:56 PM (s1VwS)

The thing about the Washington Generals is that, after losing to the Globetrotters, they all have dinner and drinks together at the same tables at the same restaurant. Because it's all a show. A big, f***ing show.
At least Democrats look you in the eye and tell you they are stealing from you, poison your kids minds, and turn your country into the 3rd world. RINOs smile and lie to you, telling you they are just like you, and will protect your way of life.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2026 06:03 PM (Uvvcx)

181 Since Trump has already been damned for it he might as well go all out now and finish the war. The election is over now go all out and finish the Iran war, quick and hard. No more bomb, stop, negotiate, bomb. Keep going until no IRCG infrastructure exists, if you must destroy bridges and roads then do so.
Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2026 05:45 PM (uKqbA)

^^^^^This^^^^^

Crush the mullahs.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 04, 2026 06:03 PM (zYpTz)

182 164 Remember John Cornyn saying he wanted to "teach MAGA a lesson" for not supporting him. The Texas GOPe had the knives out for Paxton.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 05:59 PM

Cornyn's a uniparty trough snout, just not as refined as a Bush.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2026 06:03 PM (LHPAg)

183
Outrage is erupting from parents in Maine after public schools are now RECONSIDERING allowing kids to READ WITH FOSTER DOGS...

...over the RELIGIOUS BELIEFS of Muslims who believe dogs are "unclean"

Yes, a program where kids sit with puppies and read books is now being reviewed because of Islam."

Bad news: there is going to be another run on ammo causing prices to rise.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot

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Worse news: I watched the news story and if there's any parental outrage, they didn't show it. It's an angry Muslim male and an AWFL schoolteacher who's trying to accommodate him because she feels sorry for Muslim kids who aren't allowed to pet puppies.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM (mmrXZ)

184 The GOPe will rise again - JD Vance, GOPe Spokeshole

Nah bro. That's how we got where we are.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My president has convictions. at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM (wcyKn)

185 JD Vance just lost me.

We have lost only 23 military personnel thus far in this 'war'. I guess any operation to keep a terrorist state ,who have been attacking Americans for 43 years , from obtaining nuclear weapons is a bridge too far for that pudgy hillbilly.

Fuck him and his buddy Tucker.

Posted by: polynikes at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM (lpTXP)

186 the first two comments sum up my reaction pretty well, nothing to add

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM (VyBeY)

187 > Supporting Israel is not a long term winner: every culture wants them dead
Posted by: Accomack at November 04, 2026 05:45 PM (9H7EW)

"Every" culture wants them dead?

Go. Fuck. Yourself. You. FUCKING. Nazi.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM (qlLNh)

188 "That's what happens when you flood a state with Indians and Californicans."

And Central Americans etc. Texans of all stripes were high-fiving each other when tech companies announced moves from California to Texas. It led to Superbowl-like celebrations.

Posted by: 13times at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM (6iKlf)

189 Iran nuking NYC would focus a lot of minds and improve our political situation

Posted by: Accomack at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM (Dpv2s)

190 Why care about the GOP at this point ?
Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 06:01 PM (E4EjS)

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I don't.

I want conservative candidates who keep their word and aren't swayed by money or threats.

Do you really believe Telerico got more votes than any candidate in Texas ever?

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM (iOpI2)

191 FUCK JD Vance. Rubio 2028.

Posted by: Sam Adams at November 04, 2026 06:05 PM (X+xvk)

192 I've switched from Vance to DeSantis for 2028, but either would be fine.

Posted by: Commodore at November 04, 2026 06:05 PM (hcFTx)

193 179 171

She's been on my list of 3 possibles all day (DeSantis, Youngkin, Sanders)...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 06:01 PM (Gb7+b)

Christian Fundie from a Hillbilly State. That’ll be their play. Think, Sarah Palin, essentially.
Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 06:03 PM (Gqar

That's why she's #3...I think DeSantis is #1 and will win if he runs b/c people will be remembering early 2027 when they vote in early 2028...and I expect the 1st 6 months of next year to be ugly for everyone in Trump's admin...and no one likes Ted Cruz or Nikki Haley (if they both throw their hats back in as expected)...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 06:05 PM (Gb7+b)

194 Posted by: Blonde Morticia

It's ridiculous that Muslim students can't just opt out of this without a parental need to cancel the entire thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2026 06:06 PM (xz+xK)

195 Every culture that wants them dead is implacably evil and natural enemies of a nation like the USA which was founded on God-given Rights.
Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 04, 2026 06:01 PM (vSvIl)
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If you haven't noticed, what's left of white Christian America is basically all they have left in their corner, and we're not exactly growing our ranks here.

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 06:06 PM (oqH4h)

196 178 5.6 million Texans voted for a guy who wants to dick chop kids if they so much as wear a pink shirt

thats messed up
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - FAP Certified at November 04, 2026 06:03 PM (fapp/)
They messed with Texas.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2026 06:06 PM (LHPAg)

197 Letting Iran have nukes is a good idea?"

"Letting"? We supposedly hit with one strike. Fine.

It's the on off on off for months with "official announcements" that wore thin.

Plus the complete misread of world markets.

Stupid move.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 06:06 PM (pfXMo)

198 Maybe Vance sees 2028 as a bad chance for Republicans and wants to wait it out ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 06:06 PM (4WM7K)

199 I dont see anything wrong with JD's analysis. We obviously balk at going to war on behalf of Germany/NATO in Ukraine. We dont want a war in the middle east as a result of Israel (who we coordinated the strikes with)

Posted by: engine at November 04, 2026 06:06 PM (moQIU)

200 Did Trump pick Vance for VP, or did the party?

Posted by: davidt at November 04, 2026 06:06 PM (Q+gd/)

201 The press will support whichever "reasonable" Republican they perceive to be weakest right up until the general election campaign begins, at which point Mr. Reasonable will magically "transition" to the bastard cloned offspring of Adolf Hitler and Bull Connor.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:07 PM (qlLNh)

202 "Why is not giving a shit about ANY other country a dog whistle? "

You new here?

Israel worship and crapping on "antisemitic" whites are the core drivers of traffic to this site.

Posted by: m kerr at November 04, 2026 06:07 PM (+/Zpf)

203 200 Did Trump pick Vance for VP, or did the party?
Posted by: davidt at November 04, 2026 06:06 PM (Q+gd/)

Trump Jr did...and Trump liked the idea.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 06:07 PM (Gb7+b)

204 185 JD Vance just lost me.

We have lost only 23 military personnel thus far in this 'war'. I guess any operation to keep a terrorist state ,who have been attacking Americans for 43 years , from obtaining nuclear weapons is a bridge too far for that pudgy hillbilly.

Fuck him and his buddy Tucker.
Posted by: polynikes at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM (lpTXP)

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Why the hate with JD Vance? Trump should have hit Iran hard, taken every ship that was hinky in the Straight of Hormuz and if we didn't have that capability, why not?

And Trump should have told everyone pushing the bullshit Ukraine war to fuck off.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 06:07 PM (iOpI2)

205 200 Did Trump pick Vance for VP, or did the party?
Posted by: davidt at November 04, 2026 06:06 PM (Q+gd/)

Trump on the recommendation from Don Jr.

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 06:07 PM (4WM7K)

206 at which point Mr. Reasonable will magically "transition" to the bastard cloned offspring of Adolf Hitler and Bull Connor.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:07 PM (qlLNh)

Every single time.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 04, 2026 06:07 PM (zYpTz)

207 "So, I asked the smartest data guy I know, does that mean we're going to shock the world?" So . . . .Hunter Biden?

I live in Australia, and a work friend made a guy fawkes joke (it's the fifth here) about "So Wicked, time to burn down parliament and get your vengeance?" I said, "No, losers did that for me." Then he remembered it was also our election day. I then said, "not really surprising other than a few, Trump definitely didn't help with his mouth, but it's the propoganda that gave them the wave, there were 3 that I can think right now that were an outright disgrace, but one good thing. Vance doesn't stand a chance in '28, but it opens the door widely for DeSantis and Rubio, 2 guys I supported in other elections."

A Desantis Pres, rubio VP, or other way around, perfectly fine by me. Vance is done for a while, if not forever.

Posted by: wickedpinto at November 04, 2026 06:08 PM (vSedm)

208 We've also called DeSantis "meatball." Moving to Texas so you can be on a presidential ticket in 2028 sounds like something that never happens. Do DeSantis and Rubio sit down and flip a coin or what?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (mmrXZ)

It can happen. Yes, flip a coin. I guess that was a dig. I never called Tulsi coffee cake face or DeSantis meatball.

Posted by: 13times at November 04, 2026 06:08 PM (6iKlf)

209 182 164 Remember John Cornyn saying he wanted to "teach MAGA a lesson" for not supporting him. The Texas GOPe had the knives out for Paxton.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 05:59 PM

Cornyn's a uniparty trough snout, just not as refined as a Bush.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2026 06:03 PM

Cornyn and Paxton were both terrible candidates.

Marshall in Kansas was also a terrible candidate.

I assume the GOPe wing largely controls the Republican primaries?

How do we wrest that away so we get actual good candidates that 1.) will support policies that help the country, and 2.) will appeal to all of the independents so we can get enough of their votes to win in the general elections?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 04, 2026 06:08 PM (HlyYF)

210 As I said this morning, younger conservatives are nowhere near as reflexively pro Israel as older conservatives. Reactions to this post by Vance have certainly shown that. Going to be interesting to see how that plays out.

Posted by: brak at November 04, 2026 06:08 PM (jLNA2)

211 Cornyn, Collins and McTurtle will no longer be in the senate."

And no more Abbott or Paxhead...that jackass...

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 06:09 PM (pfXMo)

212 Can we start taking names and scalps of new trolls?

I found one below named "Honest Cloud." Which seems both retarded as well as weather related. Maybe he thinks he's in the Weather Channel.

I know we are not supposed to feed them and I won't (maybe) anymore.

I won't fight people I know even if I don't agree with them. Maybe. I don't know. It all depends on my mood.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreatIronFistVelvetGlove at November 04, 2026 06:09 PM (hzuYO)

213
Rubio/Gabbard?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

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Yes. The Powerline boys say she's whip-smart. That's not meant as a joke; I think they can figure out who's smart. They said Vance was immature.

btw, I won't be visiting Powerline for as long as I can hold out. Too blackpilly.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 06:09 PM (mmrXZ)

214 > If you haven't noticed, what's left of white Christian America is basically all they have left in their corner, and we're not exactly growing our ranks here.

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 06:06 PM (oqH4h)

If you haven't noticed, they're a civilized country surrounded by murdering savages.

You may have also noticed that they just kicked the living shit out of the "Palestinians". They'll get by just fine without a bunch of Eurosavages and American communists in their corner.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:09 PM (qlLNh)

215 And Trump should have told everyone pushing the bullshit Ukraine war to fuck off.
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 06:07 PM (iOpI2)

The Dems love the Ukraine war and are gonna demand funding for it along with what's left of the Republican Senators...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 06:09 PM (4WM7K)

216 Do you really believe Telerico got more votes than any candidate in Texas ever?
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM (iOpI2)

I do. Because I've worked Texas for a decade or two.

Texas is ... especially for many here ... a caricature of itself. One only has to be in Houston, or Dallas, or San Antonio, to see that it just doesn't work like that.

And here's the thing. Texas brought it on itself. Texas LOVED that immigration of relocating businesses.

Did you fuckers really think they'd all move in and suddenly renounce the big cities they came from ? Did you think the Brisket would somehow change them ?

Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 06:09 PM (E4EjS)

217 AFICT the only reason Ramaswamy got the pick in Ohio was by being JD's buddy. So there's another winning move from Vance.

Posted by: Ronsonic at November 04, 2026 06:09 PM (0bGoT)

218 Do you really believe Telerico got more votes than any candidate in Texas ever?
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM

He got more counted. Maybe.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2026 06:09 PM (LHPAg)

219 Only 23 military personnel is 23 too fucking many. What number is acceptable? Are we Ukraine throwing another log on the fire?

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 06:10 PM (enNUy)

220
Worse news: I watched the news story and if there's any parental outrage, they didn't show it. It's an angry Muslim male and an AWFL schoolteacher who's trying to accommodate him because she feels sorry for Muslim kids who aren't allowed to pet puppies.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM

We had two Jehovah's Witnesses in my class and I always felt sorry for them when they'd leave school early and miss the Valentine's Day party and they didn't even get any punch and cookies.
I like that way of dealing with a cultural difference.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 06:10 PM (czPqD)

221 That was overly general. There some Christian demographics that are not on that bus. The dead or quiet demographic is probably 2/3 the planet. Why thinking that way makes me anti semitic, IDK. The democrats found another wedge and they’re going to hammer it home.

Posted by: Accomack at November 04, 2026 06:10 PM (Dpv2s)

222 1. Vance was not going rogue when he posted that. I think it was cleared by Trump. Trump announced election day morning we were cancelling all direct aid to Israel, which is the change in relationship that Vance mentioned.
2. No one in the Trump administration will be able to escape the ick factor. Enough voters are sick of Trump that Vance's candidacy is already doomed. He's young and can come back in 32 if we lose 28, which history says we probably will.
3. Kelly Ayotte or Kim Reynolds will be perfect VP picks. Inoffensive Karens to swing a few points in women voters.
4. Sarah Huckabee Sanders carries Trump baggage and ran an ad denigrating young white males as losers in the mom's basement. Net drag on the ticket.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 04, 2026 06:10 PM (wGerL)

223 This kind of public split with the president right after the election seems very, very strange to me. Like if he had kind floated this idea out in a week or two that would have been one thing, but today??

Posted by: Max Power at November 04, 2026 06:11 PM (SwyyQ)

224 >>Outrage is erupting from parents in Maine

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I watched the vid. No outrage was shown in the news story; that X headline might be clickbait. The video shows that school officials feel sorry for little Muslim kids who can't pet the puppies and they're trying to find a way to be inclusive about it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

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Give them a goat and some alone time with it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2026 06:11 PM (KuABb)

225
Did Trump pick Vance for VP, or did the party?
Posted by: davidt at November 04, 2026 06:06 PM (Q+gd/)

Trump Jr did...and Trump liked the idea.
Posted by: Nova Local

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I think we did at the time as well.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 06:11 PM (mmrXZ)

226 wickedpinto

NOW THAT IS A NAME I HAVE NOT SEEN IN A LONG TIME!

Posted by: Harun at November 04, 2026 06:11 PM (IuIym)

227 " So the move on to 28 can officially begin now.
Tepes/Pinochet 2028"

They have to be born American, so a lot of anchor babies from many nations are available (thx SCOTUS).

Posted by: illiniwek at November 04, 2026 06:11 PM (vbXSk)

228 Worse news: I watched the news story and if there's any parental outrage, they didn't show it. It's an angry Muslim male and an AWFL schoolteacher who's trying to accommodate him because she feels sorry for Muslim kids who aren't allowed to pet puppies.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM

Lefty school teachers love to be subversive.

How about some subversive Christian teachers step in and let the Muslim kids pet some puppies? Make sure to tell those kids NOT to tell their parents.

That should help undermine the relationship with their oppressive parents.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 04, 2026 06:11 PM (HlyYF)

229 > Yes. The Powerline boys say she's whip-smart.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 06:09 PM (mmrXZ)

She is definitely smart. I won't lie and say there's nothing questionable about her, but she is absolutely not an idiot.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:12 PM (qlLNh)

230 200 Did Trump pick Vance for VP, or did the party?
Posted by: davidt

Who Promoted JD? cTHIEL -- true fact.
Trumps top choice (one of many): Maria Bartiromo -- that's right!

convo... NO JD, You hang up first. No Pardon, and we're running you out on a rail with your ghoulFreind cTHIEL....

Trump doesn't need JD's/Pardon, or cTHIEL's/Protection. He is the Storm, he will prevail; because he can: fight, Fight, FIGHT.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at November 04, 2026 06:12 PM (LpOrs)

231 Never been a huge JD fan. However the TIMING of the war could not have been worse.
The ‘12 Day War’(Trumps label for it) was fine, dandy , justifiable, , understandable. Then….for whatever reason Trump allowed the war to be restarted —to change the regime?
The day the war re-started he, and we, lost.

Posted by: Voter theater. at November 04, 2026 06:12 PM (FCPbW)

232 @NEWSMAX
·
5h
THUNE VOWS TO FIGHT DEMS: Senate Majority Leader John Thune vowed that Republicans "will not stand idly by as the far-left, socialist wing of the Democrat Party attempts to unwind everything we’ve done."

Posted by: Don Black at November 04, 2026 06:12 PM (ZxPkt)

233 The Blade is done. The Blade is headed up to the roof deck for a fat AJ cigar and Islay malt.

The Blade is still very disappointed at the ass-fisting we took yesterday, but The Blade will live to fight another day.

The Blade bids you all good night.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 04, 2026 06:12 PM (YSu2G)

234 Cornyn and Paxton were both terrible candidates."

That's being kind

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 06:12 PM (pfXMo)

235 The GOPe can't fundraise off of winning. They like losing, they have a taste for it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:48 PM

I'm tired of playing the part of the Washington Generals.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 05:55 PM (czPqD)

Yeah, no kidding.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:56 PM (s1VwS)

The thing about the Washington Generals is that, after losing to the Globetrotters, they all have dinner and drinks together at the same tables at the same restaurant. Because it's all a show. A big, f***ing show.
At least Democrats look you in the eye and tell you they are stealing from you, poison your kids minds, and turn your country into the 3rd world. RINOs smile and lie to you, telling you they are just like you, and will protect your way of life.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2026 06:03 PM (Uvvcx)

agree, You just described the Uniparty perfectly too

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 06:13 PM (s1VwS)

236 If JD resigns, is not replaced, then Trump dies from health problems or assassination, Hakeem Jeffries, Speaker of the House, instantly becomes President.
Posted by: Gref at November 04, 2026 05:42 PM

Or is impeached.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 04, 2026 06:13 PM (0sNs1)

237 I woke up hard in 1983 with the bombing of the Marines in Beruit. It should have been done then as Iran paid Hezbollah, turned Iran into a sheet of glass.

Once I'm done I'm done and there is no going back, JD.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreatIronFistVelvetGlove at November 04, 2026 06:02 PM

Iran should have been nuked by us in 1979 when they took our people hostages. jimmy carter had no nuts and let that go and iran only released them because they were afraid of what reagan would do after he got sworn in.

We had every right to completely fvck their country up and turn it into rubble when they stormed our embassy and took hostages. The same rights that Israel had after the october 7th attack.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 06:13 PM (I43vL)

238 30
Rubio and DeSantis 2028.
Posted by: 13times

Would that be 2 Floridians and therefore a no?

I'll take Rubio and Tulsi. Honestly, throw a woman on that ticket and see if it floats. The Dems are going to have one -- if not two.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Bezos' and Petraeus both are the only ones capable of understanding the peril ahead and have a proven record of dealing with it.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at November 04, 2026 06:14 PM (LpOrs)

239 Everybody under 30, left and right, hates and despises Israel.

The 30-50 crowd is getting there.

The only people talking like Ace are the ones shuffling off to the grave. They're also the ones talking as if they have any say in the future.

It's kinda funny.

Posted by: tevildo at November 04, 2026 06:14 PM (u2/9I)

240 Do you really believe Telerico got more votes than any candidate in Texas ever?
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM

And again. Lets say you are right. Lets say Texas just had fraud put on them.

Then I don't care. If Texas can't figure it out ? Fuck 'em.

What are the rest of us supposed to do ? Drive down to save them from themselves ? No thanks.

Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 06:14 PM (E4EjS)

241 218 Do you really believe Telerico got more votes than any candidate in Texas ever?
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 06:04 PM

He got more counted. Maybe.
Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2026 06:09 PM (LHPAg)

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Exactly.
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Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 06:09 PM (E4EjS)

I lived in Texas (Dallas suburbs for 5 years) I don't believe he got more votes than anyone ever.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2026 06:14 PM (iOpI2)

242 Rubio/Gabbard?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

******
Yes, indeed, I could.

I have never made any excuse for loving Rubio as I voted for him as many times as I could in FL. And he knew it.

I did, once, a long time ago and in confusion, vote for Romney and semi-defended him here. Briefly. Til I met him at an airport where he came up to me, alone, as my dude was getting pastries and coffee.

For someone who supposedly was loyal to his wife, he came over to me at a very busy airport to ask if we were boarding yet. It was obvious unless you were blind that we were not. Moments later I introduced The Penguin to my dude. Note: it was super early and I didn't even look that good, but the mascara is present unless the house is on fire. My eyes people notice before anything else.

I will fight for Rubio, y'all. That has never changed, altho I held my fire when Trump called him Little Marco.

I let that pass. No more. Be warned.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreatIronFistVelvetGlove at November 04, 2026 06:14 PM (hzuYO)

243 Instead of your retarded doubling down, maybe shut your fucking piehole, Ace. You BoomerCons and Neocons are wrong about every fucking thing that dribbles out of your maw.

Same scam the New Deal and Great Society ran: promise a limited fix that solves the problem and ends. They sold temporary recovery and a cure for poverty, then locked in permanent bureaucracy, broken incentives, and programs that never died. The Neocon crowd runs the identical play with war—sell the next “limited” intervention as the smart, temporary necessity, then deliver open-ended commitments, a permanent military-industrial state, and forever wars with no exit. Not surprising. Your DNA is Leftist at heart. You’re just too stupid to know what a Neocon is.

Posted by: TedS at November 04, 2026 06:14 PM (6DLsg)

244 Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 06:09 PM (E4EjS)

And here he is with his usual insulting approach . Scogg calling people who doesn't agree with "how it is"- "fuckers".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2026 06:14 PM (xz+xK)

245 > Make sure to tell those kids NOT to tell their parents.

No, you can only do that if you want to chop off their dicks. Petting puppies would be going way too far.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:14 PM (qlLNh)

246 The Blade bids you all good night."

Looking forward to more fists.... er, firsts...

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 06:14 PM (pfXMo)

247
Mostly, what I'd like to know, since the war did cause prices to spike long enough for it to become a problem in people's minds regardless of what gas prices look like now,

is was the attack on Iran due to credible info that Iran had a bomb(s) now or would have it in just a couple of weeks, and planned to use it in Israel or the US ASAP?

or

Was this a want because it would be good for the future and not a must do now dealio?

Cuz if the attack on Iran was a "nice to do dealio", which I agree with, then waiting a year or less/more would've made no difference at all.

And we wouldn't have this Cluster Fuck. Even if we win back everything in 2028 (unlikely) the Democrats have the power and the time to do generational damage to the US.

Remember Carter created the whole Iranian mess we've been living with and which has cost thousands of American lives.

So, I like to know...Iran Attack: Need or Want?

Posted by: naturalfake at November 04, 2026 06:14 PM (YSUhf)

248 158
All the Dems have been fundraising about the 'corruption in the white house', not details, just hate mongering. It clearly had an effect, as all propaganda does.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 05:52 PM (s1VwS)

If it didn't work why do we have commercials and PR agencies? I don't think people realize just how well it works and they don't understand they were influenced.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 05:57 PM (czPqD)

Mark, this propaganda has been taught in urban public schools for well over a generation now. It is blatant and the teachers don't even hide it any more. In Seattle high schools, every day the announcements are started by a decree that the school is on Stolen Land. They have been doing this for years. Students that have recently graduated have been constantly taught that America is bad and harmful their entire lives. And also, must be taught a lesson. This election is simply a result of those poisonous values taking hold.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2026 06:14 PM (Uvvcx)

249 THUNE VOWS TO FIGHT DEMS: Senate Majority Leader John Thune vowed that Republicans "will not stand idly by as the far-left, socialist wing of the Democrat Party attempts to unwind everything we’ve done."
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Thune can bite my ass. Thune and "the Republicans" didn't do a damn thing. Trump did. Screw that shameless grifter.

Posted by: Crusader at November 04, 2026 06:15 PM (Cjcf6)

250
How about some subversive Christian teachers step in and let the Muslim kids pet some puppies? Make sure to tell those kids NOT to tell their parents.

That should help undermine the relationship with their oppressive parents.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

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I believe that's exactly how it's done with transing them.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 06:15 PM (mmrXZ)

251 Dang. The trolls are on meth today!

Do we not haz a troll catcher blow up thing?

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreatIronFistVelvetGlove at November 04, 2026 06:15 PM (hzuYO)

252 THUNE VOWS TO FIGHT DEMS: Senate Majority Leader John Thune vowed that Republicans "will not stand idly by as the far-left, socialist wing of the Democrat Party attempts to unwind everything we’ve done."
Posted by: Don Black

What piece of shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 06:15 PM (r2Icn)

253 Good news! In day 1 of arguments on who should be the next POTUS, Vance self selected out with this bs.
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Yep. I was wondering how I was going to chose between Vance and Rubio--now I have the answer.

Posted by: Crusader at November 04, 2026 06:15 PM (Cjcf6)

254 > Everybody under 30, left and right, hates and despises Israel.

Lie harder, Nazi.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:15 PM (qlLNh)

255 Has anyone heard from the Republican consultant class? They're probably so busy counting their ill gotten fees that they gave no time to comment

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2026 06:15 PM (8VNAp)

256 If you haven't noticed, they're a civilized country surrounded by murdering savages.

You may have also noticed that they just kicked the living shit out of the "Palestinians". They'll get by just fine without a bunch of Eurosavages and American communists in their corner.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:09 PM (qlLNh)
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Ok good, then they don't need our help.

Not sure what argument you think you're making here. The fact is that antisemitism around the world is ascendent, and that sucks. You're sitting here trying to simultaneously say we all have to click our heels and salute smartly whenever Israel needs something lest we be called Jew Haters, or the Jews don't actually need our help so who cares? Pick one.

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 06:16 PM (oqH4h)

257 Never been a huge JD fan. However the TIMING of the war could not have been worse.

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That one and done strike that took out their nuclear facilities I thought was going to be, you know, one and done.

Then it was these massive strikes that I was assured would last no longer than two weeks

which turned into 6 months or so which turned into high gas prices which turned into fucking up inflation even more which turned into pedos getting elected by landslides because McDonalds no longer has a $1 value menu for the stupid fucks who voted for the child abusers

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - FAP Certified at November 04, 2026 06:16 PM (fapp/)

258 We dont want a war in the middle east as a result of Israel (who we coordinated the strikes with)

Posted by: engine at November 04, 2026 06:06 PM (moQIU)

What part of Iran being a terrorist state at war with America for 43 years and attempting get a nuclear weapon and every President previously kicking the can down the road don't you understand. Not everything is fueled by Israel.

Posted by: polynikes at November 04, 2026 06:16 PM (lpTXP)

259 What piece of shit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 06:15 PM (r2Icn)

*******
A hundred thousand AYE's to this.

If he was on fire...

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreatIronFistVelvetGlove at November 04, 2026 06:16 PM (hzuYO)

260 130 So what will congress do to "lower costs?"
I think we all know.
Subsidize demand. Its all they know how to do.
Posted by: Harun

This might be the perfect to to pass comprehensive immigration reform, have a one time citizenship amnesty for the undocumented here currently, so they can go to work and help make our economy strong, instead of being victims of Trump's ICE thugs. It's what Americans want.

Posted by: Dems and GOPe Bipartisanship at November 04, 2026 06:17 PM (t19vo)

261 Thune is tanned, rested and ready. Right after another vacation.

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 06:17 PM (enNUy)

262 And I'm not Catholic. but I liked this story. Catholic students in California come together to raise a large cross that had been torn down by vandals . From NC Register:

https://tinyurl.com/29ybdssv

Goodnight all.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2026 06:17 PM (xz+xK)

263 Watching my country turn to Islam and Communism last night, my mind turned to an old poem from long ago.

Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright,
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light;
And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout,
But there is no joy in Mudville—mighty Casey has struck out.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2026 06:18 PM (Uvvcx)

264 Remember John Cornyn saying he wanted to "teach MAGA a lesson" for not supporting him. The Texas GOPe had the knives out for Paxton.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 05:59 PM

And part of the lesson has been taught.

Are you not entertained?

Posted by: John Cornyn (RINO) at November 04, 2026 06:18 PM (0sNs1)

265 252 THUNE VOWS TO FIGHT DEMS: Senate Majority Leader John Thune vowed that Republicans "will not stand idly by as the far-left, socialist wing of the Democrat Party attempts to unwind everything we’ve done."
Posted by: Don Black
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Fuck this guy in particular.

"Now that you've finished with my wife, I'm going to ask you to leave this hotel room immediately! And when you don't, I'm going to be very disappointed!"

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 06:18 PM (oqH4h)

266 Second look at Mario Rubio's garbage?

Posted by: Minuteman at November 04, 2026 06:18 PM (47/pr)

267 >>>Hakeem Jeffries, Speaker of the House, instantly becomes President.
Posted by: Gref at November 04, 2026 05:42 PM (5rh/l)

Thank you for making my asshole pucker. Today is just lovely.

Posted by: Max Power at November 04, 2026 06:18 PM (SwyyQ)

268 I hope Telly Rico shows up in drag his first day in Congress.*

*Something to look forward to!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreatIronFistVelvetGlove at November 04, 2026 06:19 PM (hzuYO)

269 > Not sure what argument you think you're making here.

"They'll get by just fine without a bunch of Eurosavages and American communists in their corner."

Seems pretty straightforward to me, hoss.

> You're sitting here trying to simultaneously say

While I'm sure it's easier to debate the straw man in your head, I'm not "saying" anything of the sort.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:19 PM (qlLNh)

270 Has anyone heard from the Republican consultant class? They're probably so busy counting their ill gotten fees that they gave no time to comment
Posted by: Smell the Glove

*Sips umbrella drink*

Posted by: GOPe consultant at November 04, 2026 06:20 PM (r2Icn)

271 Swear the dems will be loading us all into train cars and Boomer cons will still be crowing "Israel is our greatest ally!!!"

Posted by: everyone i disagree with is Tucker carlson at November 04, 2026 06:20 PM (L5vL0)

272 THUNE VOWS TO FIGHT DEMS: Senate Majority Leader John Thune vowed that Republicans "will not stand idly by as the far-left, socialist wing of the Democrat Party attempts to unwind everything we’ve done."

Oh, fuck you, Thune.

You wouldn't fight when it mattered and you and your Party had the power, but-

now you're gonna be the fight ingest fighter that ever fought.

I assume your idea of fighting is to be giving every Democrat in Congress sloppy blowjobs.

Go kill yourself loser.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 04, 2026 06:20 PM (YSUhf)

273 So the CIA SCREWED tRUMP AGAIIN.

Posted by: torabora at November 04, 2026 06:20 PM (Wt1Rs)

274 J.D. may make a politician yet! Happy days are here again I will put in a good word with are new commissar for justice Hasan Piker for all you morons including the repressed homosexuals and closet queens here.

Posted by: raimondo at November 04, 2026 06:20 PM (/+dbr)

275 Evening.

Question to the Horde: Looking to '28, does anyone see any potential Republican Presidential contenders coming out of either the House or Senate? I don't mean winners (necessarily), I mean anyone just worth looking at? Or is it nothing but also-rans?

Posted by: Robert at November 04, 2026 06:21 PM (umDIn)

276 >>Senate Majority Leader John Thune vowed that Republicans "will not stand idly by as the far-left, socialist wing of the Democrat Party attempts to unwind everything we’ve done."

Everything you've done?

Posted by: davidt at November 04, 2026 06:21 PM (Q+gd/)

277 I'm guessing we have a bunch of trolls in here today because Trump worked his ass off to curb the mid term doldrums.

We need to go back to one day voting.

Posted by: DanMan at November 04, 2026 06:22 PM (8uzBS)

278 While I'm sure it's easier to debate the straw man in your head, I'm not "saying" anything of the sort.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:19 PM (qlLNh)
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What I'm saying is that America is becoming less white and less Christian with every passing day. So when we're gone, what then for Israel? Will they still be getting by just fine? Or nah? Nah right? Because of the aforementioned sea of savages with which they're surrounded?

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 06:22 PM (oqH4h)

279 The Dems love the Ukraine war and are gonna demand funding for it along with what's left of the Republican Senators...

Next Congressional budget will be greater than seven trillion.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 04, 2026 06:22 PM (U4c/V)

280
Romney hittin' on ChristyBlinky?

Second look at Willard. Extra points for doing it with in front of your husband.

Posted by: Auspex at November 04, 2026 06:22 PM (Y8DZL)

281 THUNE VOWS TO FIGHT DEMS: Senate Majority Leader John Thune vowed that Republicans "will not stand idly by as the far-left, socialist wing of the Democrat Party attempts to unwind everything we’ve done."
Posted by: Don Black

But they didn't do anything.

At least McConnell got us judges. Thune didn't do shit.

Posted by: Robert at November 04, 2026 06:22 PM (umDIn)

282 I found one below named "Honest Cloud." Which seems both retarded as well as weather related. Maybe he thinks he's in the Weather Channel.
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Wait, really?

I haven't seen that fool in a decade, maybe back in the captain america days.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 04, 2026 06:22 PM (vSvIl)

283 THUNE VOWS TO FIGHT DEMS: Senate Majority Leader John Thune vowed that Republicans "will not stand idly by as the far-left, socialist wing of the Democrat Party attempts to unwind everything we’ve done."
Posted by: Don Black at November 04, 2026 06:12 PM
In a sane world this guy would be tarred and feathered for stopping the voting bill.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2026 06:23 PM (LHPAg)

284 265 252 THUNE VOWS TO FIGHT DEMS: Senate Majority Leader John Thune vowed that Republicans "will not stand idly by as the far-left, socialist wing of the Democrat Party attempts to unwind everything we’ve done."
Posted by: Don Black
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Fuck this guy in particular.

Ditto times infinity .

Posted by: Voter theater. at November 04, 2026 06:23 PM (FCPbW)

285 May Almighty God forgive me for all of the evil I wish on John Thune, Bitch McConnell, John Cornyn and Mike Johnson.

But I do wish all that is unspeakable upon them and theirs.

Traitors deserve dessert. A special form of "dessert."

Posted by: Sam Adams at November 04, 2026 06:23 PM (X+xvk)

286 Well if the Dems undo nothing because Thune and the Republicans did nothing I guess that's a hold

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2026 06:23 PM (8VNAp)

287 Remember Carter created the whole Iranian mess we've been living with and which has cost thousands of American lives.

It popped off with Carter for sure. But, and I realize memories here are short, but criticizing Carter back in the day came with a cost. Because that fucker hid behind the shield of "I Go To Church" like a champion.

Now lets give credit to "W". Plenty here choose to not remember. Religion of Peace. That was "W".

Trump did it ass-backward. Anybody else remember, during Trump 1.0, him sending Patriots into Syria ?

That was the dictator that walked like a Western Man. Acted like a Western Man. And his wife and kids behaved like Western Folk.

We act like Trump never committed an Own Goal. Well, for some version of We.

Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 06:24 PM (E4EjS)

288 Larry Correia once referred to Romney as a "Zip-loc bag full of hair gel".

I'll never not think of that any time that mook is mentioned.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:24 PM (qlLNh)

289 4 Rubio and DeSantis 2028.
Posted by: 13times at November 04, 2026 05:34 PM (6iKlf)

*********
Oh, YEAH, baybee!!!!

I would even help those two by messing with WaPo again! I did twice. Once anti-abortion Gosnell. The other time I can't remember, but politics.

That was so much fun! It was easy and their little basement minds were blown.

I was laughing so hard one weekend,as a French anthropologist studying "WaPo in the Mist" regarding Gosnell I was laughing so loudly my husband yelled across the house, asking wth I was doing. They didn't even connect to what I was mocking in my study thesis title! lol

I typed in a French accent as well! Memories!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreatIronFistVelvetGlove at November 04, 2026 06:24 PM (hzuYO)

290 nood!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 04, 2026 06:25 PM (VyBeY)

291 >>Senate Majority Leader John Thune vowed that Republicans "will not stand idly by as the far-left, socialist wing of the Democrat Party attempts to unwind everything we’ve done."

So he'll sit.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 04, 2026 06:25 PM (Fwea8)

292 265 252 THUNE VOWS TO FIGHT DEMS: Senate Majority Leader John Thune vowed that Republicans "will not stand idly by as the far-left, socialist wing of the Democrat Party attempts to unwind everything we’ve done."
Posted by: Don Black
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Fuck this guy in particular.

Officially, John Thune is now the official shoe shiner for the US Senate. And when they have parades with horses, he gets to follow them to shovel up the horseshit.
Thune still has value in DC.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2026 06:25 PM (Uvvcx)

293 > What I'm saying is that America is becoming less white and less Christian with every passing day.

That's nice.

I don't give a fuck what you're saying, Nazi.

Now that we've had that frank exchange of views: GFY.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:25 PM (qlLNh)

294 I assume the focus in Maine is on appeasing the Muslim's dog beliefs...something something about dog saliva keeping away the "angel of mercy" or some such....heh....dogma.

Well, here's my take. Unless your service animal is compensating for a loss of physical issues....(sight, hearing, mobility)...it's nonsense. That's my take. It's an unnecessary crutch.

IOW....I don't support either side of this argument.

Posted by: Orson at November 04, 2026 06:25 PM (dIske)

295 Based on his press appearances in the last few hours, DeSantis is definitely running in 2028.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 04, 2026 06:25 PM (5/tkV)

296 uhm....did someone say "apeing"?

Posted by: The Kenyan at November 04, 2026 06:26 PM (Wt1Rs)

297 219 Only 23 military personnel is 23 too fucking many. What number is acceptable? Are we Ukraine throwing another log on the fire?

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 06:10 PM

I have NEVER seen a MSM story about Iran's launch capabilities.

They have launched at least 22 satellites using sophisticated 2-stage rockets.

They have now developed a 3-stage rocket, and both of the lower stages have advanced to using solid propellant.

They probably cannot hit NYC or DC yet with an ICBM, but they will have that capability very soon.

I have plotted the great circle route from NW Iran to the east coast of the U.S. Apogee is just south of Iceland. Missiles located in Greenland would be optimally positioned to intercept an ICBM at that apogee location.

That "idiot" Trump is smarter than every Democrat I know, when it comes to protecting U.S. citizens from harm.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 04, 2026 06:26 PM (HlyYF)

298 Rubio and DeSantis 2028.

Can they be from the same state?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 04, 2026 06:26 PM (Fwea8)

299 I'll be honest, it's a bit hard to hold these two things simultaneously for me:

- We have to support Israel and Jews in general
- Jews vote overwhelmingly for Democrats and in some cases (Michigan) literally for an insane Jew-hating half-pint Jihadist.

It's a bit like giving the local homeless guy five bucks for him to get a meal but he spends it on booze then shits on your porch for your generosity.

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 06:26 PM (oqH4h)

300 The Iranians wanted the Socialists to take over
They will be saved

Posted by: Skip at November 04, 2026 06:26 PM (Ia/+0)

301 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:19 PM (qlLNh)

Here's what I'm saying.

Israel won't let you, in particular, own a gun. But they will let you volunteer in support formations. Pretty much indentured servitude.

You know, if you feel that strongly.

Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 06:26 PM (E4EjS)

302 We need to go back to one day voting.
Posted by: DanMan at November 04, 2026 06:22 PM
This.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2026 06:27 PM (LHPAg)

303 What I'm saying is that America is becoming less white and less Christian with every passing day. So when we're gone, what then for Israel? Will they still be getting by just fine?

First of all, being less WASP is how you get a low trust society guaranteed. With the tribal warfare, and with the infrastructure all going to shit while the fraud and corruption skyrocket, more than Israel is getting cut out.

IMEC 2.0 better be in full swing or the nation of Israel is toast, just because the US is quickly leaving the stage as a global hegemony.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 04, 2026 06:27 PM (U4c/V)

304 That's nice.

I don't give a fuck what you're saying, Nazi.

Now that we've had that frank exchange of views: GFY.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:25 PM (qlLNh)
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Very rational, as usual.

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 06:28 PM (oqH4h)

305 We have to support Israel and Jews in general

That is primarily an Evangelical issue. As the evangelicals lose clout, that support will wane.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 04, 2026 06:29 PM (U4c/V)

306 Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 06:26 PM (E4EjS)

ISIS is looking for a few anti American know it alls too.

Posted by: polynikes at November 04, 2026 06:29 PM (lpTXP)

307 298 Rubio and DeSantis 2028.

Can they be from the same state?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 04, 2026 06:26 PM (Fwea

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Absolutely.

I am in charge now. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 04, 2026 06:30 PM (hzuYO)

308 Now that we've had that frank exchange of views: GFY.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 06:25 PM (qlLNh)

Airline Tickets to Tel Aviv exist. They do have a program. You'll get a shit apartment. They'll put you to work. You'll get fed.

You know, if you feel that strongly. Same thing goes for another cat here.

Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 06:30 PM (E4EjS)

309 Instead of your retarded doubling down, maybe shut your fucking piehole, Ace. You BoomerCons and Neocons are wrong about every fucking thing that dribbles out of your maw.

Posted by: NickM at November 04, 2026 06:31 PM (2M4en)

310 250
How about some subversive Christian teachers step in and let the Muslim kids pet some puppies? Make sure to tell those kids NOT to tell their parents.

That should help undermine the relationship with their oppressive parents.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

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I believe that's exactly how it's done with transing them.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 06:15 PM

Yep, that was my analogy.

"Compassionate" Democrats support butchery of children.

"Evil" MAGA Republicans like me want to allow all of the children to pet puppies.

Yet my side got shellacked yesterday!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 04, 2026 06:31 PM (HlyYF)

311 What I'm saying is that America is becoming less white and less Christian with every passing day. So when we're gone, what then for Israel? Will they still be getting by just fine? Or nah? Nah right? Because of the aforementioned sea of savages with which they're surrounded?

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 06:22 PM

Israel is going to be OK with or without us, it says so in the book. It will go easier for them if we stick around and help out but that is not a requirement. They are guaranteed a happy ending per the book of revelations.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 06:31 PM (I43vL)

312 The Uke war is an op designed to keep us bogged down such that any efforts to move on Iran would be easily hampered. It worked. The two wars are related.
Trump’s power move would have been to bail on Ukraine and move towards Russia. Israel would have to fight a trench war against Iran until things improved here, if ever.
Anyways, Hellebuyck has made New Jersey into contenders.

Posted by: Accomack at November 04, 2026 06:32 PM (FqNtp)

313 Israel is going to be OK with or without us, it says so in the book. It will go easier for them if we stick around and help out but that is not a requirement. They are guaranteed a happy ending per the book of revelations.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 06:31 PM (I43vL)
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Ah yes, the Christian version of "Inshallah."

So, so fucking tired of this drivel.

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 06:32 PM (oqH4h)

314 Taking out Iran's nuclear capabilities was always the right decision and it was executed with ruthless professionalism.

The problems that came next are because Trump is a better builder than general. A general, it seems, who prefers to surround himself in the floral scent of wanting to be known as the consummate peace deal guy instead of prosecuting the resulting conflict with ruthless professionalism.

Then he made everything worse with the repeated on again off again half baked potential peace agreements with interspersed bombing campaigns that accomplished nothing but that piss off the electorate which repudiated him on Tuesday.

If there ever was a well thought out military campaign after blowing up the nuclear sites I'm at a loss to know what it is. Same can be said for a plan to deal with the political and economic ramifications. Trump comes with great talents and equally great blind spots, blind spots which led directly to the catastrophe that happened on Tuesday.

And now we have JD Vance prancing around positioning himself as the next big deal guy. That's a vulture at work. The next few years are going to be tough. 2028 is shaping up to be a watershed year.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My president has convictions. at November 04, 2026 06:33 PM (wcyKn)

315 Only 23 military personnel is 23 too fucking many. What number is acceptable? Are we Ukraine throwing another log on the fire?
Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 06:10 PM (enNUy)

So zero is your only acceptable number?

Posted by: polynikes at November 04, 2026 06:33 PM (lpTXP)

316 ISIS is looking for a few anti American know it alls too.
Posted by: polynikes at November 04, 2026 06:29 PM (lpTXP)

And there it is. If you're not full-throated for Israel ? Then you're a Muslim-sucking Communist.

Its a real wonder, why the GOP and Conservatives ain't 50 points ahead. A damn mystery wrapped in a conundrum.

Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 06:33 PM (E4EjS)

317 Ace...309! ZAP!! Block! Atomic wedgie!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 04, 2026 06:34 PM (hzuYO)

318 So zero is your only acceptable number?
Posted by: polynikes at November 04, 2026 06:33 PM (lpTXP)

If the number is one ? Send one of yours.

End of story.

Posted by: How It Is at November 04, 2026 06:34 PM (E4EjS)

319 They have launched at least 22 satellites using sophisticated 2-stage rockets.

They have now developed a 3-stage rocket, and both of the lower stages have advanced to using solid propellant.

They probably cannot hit NYC or DC yet with an ICBM, but they will have that capability very soon.
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If you can put a satellite in orbit, you can drop a nuclear payload anywhere, and nukes don't have to be super precise.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 04, 2026 06:34 PM (vSvIl)

320 I honestly didn't mind the war in Iran.

It's just that the supporters are so weirdly hostile to being questioned I just don't think they belong in politics. Or even outside of nursery school.

And yesterday proved it.

Posted by: 3X Trump Voter at November 04, 2026 06:35 PM (7oGsp)

321 The Socialists will change the Senate rules day 1

Posted by: Skip at November 04, 2026 06:35 PM (Ia/+0)

322 And for the record, I supported and still support us dealing with Iran. My guess is that we had legit intel that they were days/weeks away from a working nuclear device and we had to move. Fine.

I will quibble with how it was never really explained and we didn't prosecute the war aggressively enough, in my opinion.

Also, it was always going to have political consequences and to suggest otherwise is dumb as fuck. Your mileage may vary on if you think the consequences were worth it. I think the jury is out but we'll learn more as time goes on.

I also support Israel and think Islam is a fucking cancer, but am of the opinion that I'm allowed to talk about foreign policy with respect to Israel without it sounding like someone gagging on a cock without being called a Nazi.

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 06:37 PM (oqH4h)

323 honestly didn't mind the war in Iran.

It's just that the supporters are so weirdly hostile to being questioned I just don't think they belong in politics. Or even outside of nursery school.

And yesterday proved it.
Posted by: 3X Trump Voter

Nursery school starts in January. Commie romper room.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 06:38 PM (r2Icn)

324 Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My president has convictions. at November 04, 2026 06:33 PM (wcyKn

I agree but our economic positives have increased. It's the freaking newspeak by the msm that makes up become down. Weird that the anti-war people fault Trump for not expanding the war.

Posted by: polynikes at November 04, 2026 06:38 PM (lpTXP)

325 a fat fuck who requires ozempic to get back in passable shape -- and then lies repeatedly about it -- is not a capable or qualified Good Decision Maker and should be nowhere near the levers of power.

the gall of this fat fuck to point the finger at trump when it was his camp's repeated imbecilical attempts to pay off the mullahs that has extended this conflict to an intolerable length....

Posted by: pH at November 04, 2026 06:39 PM (EDAG5)

326 Oh right, the Oilers Devils game is from Saturday. Gah, I got sick of the political ads.

Posted by: Accomack at November 04, 2026 06:39 PM (FqNtp)

327 Zero should be everyone's mother fucking acceptable

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 06:42 PM (enNUy)

328 Does this mean we're not getting our $5k checks?

Posted by: Milk Milk Lemonade at November 04, 2026 06:43 PM (d82Uo)

329 Zero should be everyone's mother fucking acceptable
Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 06:42 PM (enNUy)

So no military action ever?

Posted by: polynikes at November 04, 2026 06:44 PM (lpTXP)

330 "We have lost only 23 military personnel in this 'war'". That's such a bullshit sentence. If war is so important to you go fight and take your entire family.

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 06:48 PM (enNUy)

331 As soon as I saw one of those caravans of invaders had started moving again, I knew something was happening.

I know many of you don't believe anything nefarious was involved, and I'm not saying it was all fraud.... but neither do I believe in coincidence.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 04, 2026 06:50 PM (Vvh2V)

332 Turning Israel into an enemy will make the Muslims like us.

Yeah, that's the ticket! Then we can be downgraded from "The Great Satan" to the "Not so Great Satan"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 06:59 PM (l3cgK)

333 Yes, a program where kids sit with puppies and read books is now being reviewed because of Islam.

Um, I think they can *opt out* of that if they're so offended. On the other hand, the kids in the middle school class that were forced to recite the Shahada (which makes them Muslims) was mandatory for the class...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 07:02 PM (l3cgK)

334 Just out of the country and I saw newer versions of Paw Patrol. Total was bs with hijab women working with the dogs instead of wanting to kill them or ban them in the schools

Posted by: Avi at November 04, 2026 07:10 PM (x6MnB)

335 Go. Fuck. Yourself. You. FUCKING. Nazi.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Okay, Jeffrey Epstein.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at November 04, 2026 07:20 PM (9Noqh)

336 Shit night. Not much to say that hasn't already been said. Super pissed about Texas turning blue and likely staying that way moving forward. That was always a Democrat number 1 on the wish list.

I think Texas fucks the US for multiple decades or until the shooting starts, at least.

Well, buckle your britches kids. Rough seas ahead.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 04, 2026 07:21 PM (rJ7Hd)

337 "Never been a huge JD fan. However the TIMING of the war could not have been worse. "

I have vacillated on Vance, I both love the Image of his history, A po boy started to make his name as a Marine, first Marine in the executive in history, and being a Marine myself, I don't know if I ever mentioned, I also didn't trust him for shit. He was a soft dick with a soft dick MOS, and he said "Thankfully" when talking about never facing combat while not in theater.

I Had a soft Dick MOS, with a FUCK load more training than transcriber, and I BEGGED to face a conflict theater deployment, not because I wanted to kill anyone, but because I was a Marine, I wanted to know if I could do my job as I'm supposed to. As I have said to my wife and family, "If I had gone to war, I would have put up with my bullshit" (It's actually complicated, not the way lefties say.)

ALSO, I Supported Iraq2, because we had already dominated the land of Afghanistan, intimidated Pakistan to offering a whole lot more assistance than they wanted to, so that we could use Iraq and Afghanistan as a pathway to Iran.

That is the ONLY thing I agree with John McCain at the time.

JD is now voicing

Posted by: wickedpinto at November 04, 2026 07:46 PM (vSedm)

338 The EXACT OPPOSITE of what I feel as a Marine, and it reminds me that he was just a soft dick with an soft dick MOS that had a lot of promotions because REAL Marines took on the hard jobs, and didn't THANK themselves for avoiding the call of conflict, rather than beg an opportunity to be the point of the sword, even if it costs you everything.

I STILL like him, but not as any sort of political leader. Fuck, 6 years ago he hated trump, then he changed his mind. That's not a Marines mindset, that's a vulture capitalists.

Posted by: wickedpinto at November 04, 2026 07:48 PM (vSedm)

339 Anybody that thinks Israel was anywhere near the top 5 issues is a moron with no idea what voters actually care about.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at November 04, 2026 08:00 PM (lCHt6)

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