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Gun Thread: 2026 TXMoMe Discussion and Analysis Edition!
FUNdamentals Fundamentals of MoMe'n, that is! I'm writing this on the 13th so the event hasn't occurred yet, although I am now within striking distance of Corsicana. Future Weasel assures me it was a great time, as always. So, in the spirit of taunting those who chose not to attend, please consider the following conversation starters: - Did you go?
- Did you have fun?
- Did you shoot?
- Rifles, handguns, or both?
- How about the food?
- Was it amazing or what?
- Did you see a lot of your pals? Newcomers:
- Were you surprised by the funness and coolness of the event?
- Was it what you expected?
- What was the best part for you?
- Did you make a bunch of new in-person friends?
- Think you will be back? 10/18/26 Update
Yikes! was that a good time, or what? I just finished day 1 of the drive home and wanted to share some thoughts. First, huge thank you to Ben Had, Rancher Bob and Cow Horse Queen for organizing and hosting the TXMoMe. Next, a big shout out to all those who created and executed the menu of outstanding food over two days. I'm still full! Next, an extra-bigly thank you to all the RSO's who spent two days on the handgun and rifle ranges keeping everyone safe and having a great time. Next, a shout out to our pal rhomboid for donating two nice boxes of cigars for the cool kids to enjoy, and to everyone who brought drinks and snacks and desserts for the group to share. Finally, thanks to all of the Morons who attended and continue to make the event the highlight of my year. Thank you! That's it folks! Please discuss in the comments below!
Springfield Armory If you haven't been, you need to go.
How To Shoot a Pistol Our pal 'Jer' shows us how it's done.
Pumpkin Carving! A seasonal favorite.
Pistol Malfunction Clearing Drills
Our Pal Camoflage
Ax Weasel Q: Weasel, last week we covered micrometers but how do we read calipers?
A: An important topic for sure. Please see below.
Highway Patrol! This week's episode: Prison Break!
Assignment Outer Space!!
Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar. Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New! A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo
Lucky Gunner Ammo NEW!
Comments
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THE BLADE DRAWS FIRST
Posted by: Elric the Blade at October 18, 2026 07:00 PM (VepBY)
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Yo!
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:00 PM (LMRVO)
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sponge
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 18, 2026 07:01 PM (I43vL)
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Consider me taunted! Maybe next year!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:01 PM (VyBeY)
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Good evening everyone
I guess Weasel survived
I guess Weasel survived
Posted by: Skip at October 18, 2026 07:01 PM (Ia/+0)
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Did everyone one leave the MoMe withe the same number of holes with which they started?
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:02 PM (LMRVO)
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Did everyone one leave the MoMe withe the same number of holes with which they started?
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:02 PM (LMRVO)
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Of course. Our RSO's are amazing.
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:02 PM (LMRVO)
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Of course. Our RSO's are amazing.
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:03 PM (abgnT)
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Good evening everyone and I’m looking forward to hearing about the Texas meeting!
Posted by: Coelacanth at October 18, 2026 07:03 PM (cIOlQ)
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I notified the otterses
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's phone) at October 18, 2026 07:04 PM (R3dMR)
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Sounds like everyone had fun.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 18, 2026 07:04 PM (CHHv1)
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"Consider me taunted! Maybe next year!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez"
I am already planning the trip next year and I want to see you there, sock_rat_eez.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez"
I am already planning the trip next year and I want to see you there, sock_rat_eez.
Posted by: fd at October 18, 2026 07:06 PM (MWfyi)
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Good to see a mechanical dial caliper there!
The only kind to use if you value an accurate measurement!
that Mitutoyo is exactly what sits in it's case over my bench.
I have used digital ones a few times; never saw one that could hold a zero.
The only kind to use if you value an accurate measurement!
that Mitutoyo is exactly what sits in it's case over my bench.
I have used digital ones a few times; never saw one that could hold a zero.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:07 PM (VyBeY)
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I know you all know but it bears repeating. Good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy from killing more kids.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Up, Up, and Away! at October 18, 2026 07:08 PM (ndZc7)
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Did everyone one leave the MoMe withe the same number of holes with which they started?
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:02 PM (LMRVO)
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Of course. Our RSO's are amazing.
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:03 PM (abgnT)
And I didn’t get any emergency bail requests. Must have been well-run. As usual.
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:02 PM (LMRVO)
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Of course. Our RSO's are amazing.
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:03 PM (abgnT)
And I didn’t get any emergency bail requests. Must have been well-run. As usual.
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:08 PM (LMRVO)
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Got to the range for the first time in three years. Started with a plain old 22 LR High Standard revolver. 22 LR is a great starter cartridge because you don't want to develop a flinch and I had to check to see if hand pain/finger strength was an issue. Had a few bobbles while firing about 100 rounds at a diagnostic set of targets as the older revolver did not like 22 LR minimags much resulting in hard ejection and two misfires probably related to too hot ammo for the old revolver. Something like Thunderbolt is probably a better choice for this revolver.
But shot straight, kept all shots within a 4 inch circle at 5/7/10 yards and spent my time working on full reset of trigger. Which is one of the reasons that revolvers force you to use proper trigger technique in double action--heavier 12-15 lb pull and to keep it straight, you have properly 'row' the trigger back and forth without pushing the firearm to the right or left and you have to do a full reset rather than trying to catch the link.
But shot straight, kept all shots within a 4 inch circle at 5/7/10 yards and spent my time working on full reset of trigger. Which is one of the reasons that revolvers force you to use proper trigger technique in double action--heavier 12-15 lb pull and to keep it straight, you have properly 'row' the trigger back and forth without pushing the firearm to the right or left and you have to do a full reset rather than trying to catch the link.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:11 PM (E4rtv)
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Howdy!
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at October 18, 2026 07:11 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: Pete Bog at October 18, 2026 07:12 PM (QyMPf)
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Thank You to all that attended the TXMoMe. What an absolutely amazing, fantastic time !!!!
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 07:12 PM (ua/lL)
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I bet you'd have a better time in Corsicana Texas than you would in Paris France.
Posted by: fd at October 18, 2026 07:13 PM (MWfyi)
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" ... already planning the trip next year ... "
*fistbump!*
that was how I used to do for Dayton Hamvention; the smart money made their reservations for next year at checkout on Sunday.
I hope to attend next year, perhaps now is not too soon to start planning ...
*fistbump!*
that was how I used to do for Dayton Hamvention; the smart money made their reservations for next year at checkout on Sunday.
I hope to attend next year, perhaps now is not too soon to start planning ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:14 PM (VyBeY)
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Bravo, whig!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:14 PM (VyBeY)
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Evening all!!! Stuck in traffic coming from the MoMe. Schnorflepuppy says hello.
Had a wonderful time at the MoMe, cannot wait for the next one!!
I-40 near West Memphis backed up.
Had a wonderful time at the MoMe, cannot wait for the next one!!
I-40 near West Memphis backed up.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 18, 2026 07:15 PM (IOnsU)
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Camoflage or Camouflage?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 18, 2026 07:15 PM (Cqx++)
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I bet you'd have a better time in Corsicana Texas than you would in Paris France.
Posted by: fd
Just read that the "students" are starting to break into private residences. They're targeting estates in Marseilles.
Posted by: fd
Just read that the "students" are starting to break into private residences. They're targeting estates in Marseilles.
Posted by: Tuna at October 18, 2026 07:16 PM (lJ0H4)
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Posted by: Pete Bog at October 18, 2026 07:12 PM (QyMPf)
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Reverse course, but I use the lanes on the other side of the highway.
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Reverse course, but I use the lanes on the other side of the highway.
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:17 PM (abgnT)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:17 PM (VyBeY)
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Will comment more later, still in the car although we are within the Tennessee stayte borders!
But it was an awesome MoMe, as usual....
But it was an awesome MoMe, as usual....
Posted by: The Grateful at October 18, 2026 07:17 PM (eoWjE)
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It was chilly under the carport and so I spent a lot of the time sitting in the sun, talking. That, and the wraparound sunglasses I usually wear resulted in a sunburn all over the lower half of my face.
My lovely lady hasn't said "I told you so" but she's thought it real loud while mentioning the sunscreen she offered to me both days.
My lovely lady hasn't said "I told you so" but she's thought it real loud while mentioning the sunscreen she offered to me both days.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 18, 2026 07:18 PM (VmDLh)
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For those of us not lucky enough to have attended, Ben Had just put up the menus for Friday and Saturday on the food thread. The food sounds mouth watering.
Posted by: Tuna at October 18, 2026 07:18 PM (lJ0H4)
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I spell it with the "u", myself ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:18 PM (VyBeY)
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Range report: New bullets edition.
So, yesterday was our monthly 1,000 yard club match. Conditions were filthy yet a couple of our shooters did quite well, with one of our guys going 5X's first five shots. We all thought he was going to get a 100 but, alas, one shot dropped into the nine ring. Still, though, conditions were such it was remarkable shooting.
As for myself, I'd decided I needed to try a bullet with a little better downrange performance. I picked up some Berger Long Range Hybrids and my initial testing said they should be good. (sub .4 MOA @ 100 yards.) But, 100 yards isn't 1,000 yards so, took the results with grain of salt. I started off well, 2 in the 10 ring and one X. Things were looking good then I missed a wind call, got into the 8 ring and couldn't get back where I was. Finished with an 89. The positive, though, was, this was one of my better performances under adverse conditions and, I know what I did wrong. Normally, I dial the initial correction for windage and change my hold as conditions warrant. This time, I dialed and it was a big mistake because the wind shift was temporary.
Ah well, live and learn.
So, yesterday was our monthly 1,000 yard club match. Conditions were filthy yet a couple of our shooters did quite well, with one of our guys going 5X's first five shots. We all thought he was going to get a 100 but, alas, one shot dropped into the nine ring. Still, though, conditions were such it was remarkable shooting.
As for myself, I'd decided I needed to try a bullet with a little better downrange performance. I picked up some Berger Long Range Hybrids and my initial testing said they should be good. (sub .4 MOA @ 100 yards.) But, 100 yards isn't 1,000 yards so, took the results with grain of salt. I started off well, 2 in the 10 ring and one X. Things were looking good then I missed a wind call, got into the 8 ring and couldn't get back where I was. Finished with an 89. The positive, though, was, this was one of my better performances under adverse conditions and, I know what I did wrong. Normally, I dial the initial correction for windage and change my hold as conditions warrant. This time, I dialed and it was a big mistake because the wind shift was temporary.
Ah well, live and learn.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at October 18, 2026 07:19 PM (eGzf1)
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Remember, what happened in the Horse Trailer stays in the Horse Trailer.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2026 07:19 PM (0sNs1)
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So, since the 22 LR was fine, I pulled out a Third Generation Smith and Wesson 9mm. The heavy 5946 with is double action only (DAO). Lighter trigger pull than the 22 LR revolver but still about 9-10 lbs but very smooth trigger pull with a short reset.
Then the fun began. Had a combination of Remington 115 lb gr range ammo and Federal 124 gr. American Eagle. Again, shooting at diagnostic targets. In every case, I nailed the first 4-5 shots but then either had a malfunction (extractor failed to pull the empty out of the chamber) or my shots started going lower with higher dispersion (strength issue most probably). Shot full box of 124 gr Federal and about half of the Remington. Both shot to point of aim at 7-10 yards. But more malfunctions with the Remington. So, need to check the extractor for proper hold on the cartridge--not chipped on inspection, etc. so either a crud issue (within extractor recess or behind the extractor hook), or a tired ejector spring.
A force gauge is necessary to check the correct degree of pull and I will probably have to buy one just for that purpose. Hoping it isn't the spring as Third Generation S&W are a pain to remove the extractor pin.
Then the fun began. Had a combination of Remington 115 lb gr range ammo and Federal 124 gr. American Eagle. Again, shooting at diagnostic targets. In every case, I nailed the first 4-5 shots but then either had a malfunction (extractor failed to pull the empty out of the chamber) or my shots started going lower with higher dispersion (strength issue most probably). Shot full box of 124 gr Federal and about half of the Remington. Both shot to point of aim at 7-10 yards. But more malfunctions with the Remington. So, need to check the extractor for proper hold on the cartridge--not chipped on inspection, etc. so either a crud issue (within extractor recess or behind the extractor hook), or a tired ejector spring.
A force gauge is necessary to check the correct degree of pull and I will probably have to buy one just for that purpose. Hoping it isn't the spring as Third Generation S&W are a pain to remove the extractor pin.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:19 PM (E4rtv)
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My lovely lady hasn't said "I told you so" but she's thought it real loud while mentioning the sunscreen she offered to me both days.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 18, 2026 07:18 PM
It will be mentioned, in passing, 7 years, 4 months, 23 days, and 19 hours from now, with the timestamp.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 18, 2026 07:18 PM
It will be mentioned, in passing, 7 years, 4 months, 23 days, and 19 hours from now, with the timestamp.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2026 07:21 PM (0sNs1)
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Reverse course, but I use the lanes on the other side of the highway.
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:17 PM (abgnT)
try it the other way. it would add excitement and help you stay awake.
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:17 PM (abgnT)
try it the other way. it would add excitement and help you stay awake.
Posted by: Pete Bog at October 18, 2026 07:22 PM (QyMPf)
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Were there any unplanned lateral dispersions?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2026 07:22 PM (0sNs1)
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I bet you'd have a better time in Corsicana Texas than you would in Paris France.
Posted by: fd at October 18, 2026 07:13 PM (MWfyi)
In France the targets keep moving.
Posted by: fd at October 18, 2026 07:13 PM (MWfyi)
In France the targets keep moving.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 18, 2026 07:23 PM (2WIwB)
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Had a blast at the MOME! Shot some pistols, talked to some great folks, smoked more than a few cigars! Thank you Rhomboid! Ate whole pig 2 ways and tons of black forest cake. Weather was perfect ish. Too much wind on Friday for rifle folks but cool and comfortable Saturday. Raffle was fair as a North Korean election. Not rigged at all. Disco Doof conducted a dance clinic/closing ceremony. Who knew neon rainbow was a slimming color... See you all next year.
Posted by: JSpicy at October 18, 2026 07:23 PM (PTJ94)
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try it the other way. it would add excitement and help you stay awake.
Posted by: Pete Bog at October 18, 2026 07:22 PM (QyMPf)
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I'll try that tomorrow!
Posted by: Pete Bog at October 18, 2026 07:22 PM (QyMPf)
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I'll try that tomorrow!
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:23 PM (abgnT)
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Hello, Weasel! Sorry for not being there in TX this year. Got in some practice this weekend w/ my CC9 and Colt Python snubnose as penance. I tried to shoot as many rounds as I could w/ the CC9 using only one hand. I tried to get through a whole box of ammo for the Python shooting it only in double action. Both still need improvement.
Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:23 PM (z32fn)
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Glad to hear the MoMee went well, as is usual. Hope those indulging liked the Texas Lanceros and Undercrown Maduros. Two favorites, one even with an appropriate name!
As my SEAL buddy (who lives down towards Austin) always said when we'd finish one of our RSO duty days, any range day that ends safely for all is a good range day.
As my SEAL buddy (who lives down towards Austin) always said when we'd finish one of our RSO duty days, any range day that ends safely for all is a good range day.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 07:23 PM (U/Byj)
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Whig, glad to hear you are on the range again!
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 07:23 PM (LMRVO)
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Good job, whig, Glad to know you're out and about doing important stuff.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at October 18, 2026 07:24 PM (eGzf1)
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My lovely lady hasn't said "I told you so" but she's thought it real loud while mentioning the sunscreen she offered to me both days.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 18, 2026 07:18 PM
It will be mentioned, in passing, 7 years, 4 months, 23 days, and 19 hours from now, with the timestamp.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2026 07:21 PM
Actually, I expect it will be mentioned rather more directly in about 12 months when another offer of sunscreen is made.
I should probably mention, for the uninitiated, that I was, in fact, at the MoMe. I'm home now, since I only live three and a half hours from Corsicana.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 18, 2026 07:18 PM
It will be mentioned, in passing, 7 years, 4 months, 23 days, and 19 hours from now, with the timestamp.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2026 07:21 PM
Actually, I expect it will be mentioned rather more directly in about 12 months when another offer of sunscreen is made.
I should probably mention, for the uninitiated, that I was, in fact, at the MoMe. I'm home now, since I only live three and a half hours from Corsicana.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 18, 2026 07:25 PM (VmDLh)
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The 5906 and 5946 are two all steel heavy pistols which is why I chose it for my first trip out. Weight makes felt recoil less and the 5946 weight about 40 oz without ammo putting it close to an all steel 1911 with a much punier cartridge. Felt recoil was fine, arm strength though to hold it over time started to fade on 10 round strings though and as said above, I could tell it was time to quit.
FWIW, if your accuracy starts dropping off over extended shooting with your initial shots on target--it is either a grip/trigger fundamentals starting downhill or declining strength issue or both.
Quit shooting in that case and reevaluate what the cause is on the next string. Concentrate on Weasel Trigger Fu and fundamentals and if that doesn't help, then it is likely your hands and arms might be done for the day. Not much different than shooting long arms, you can shoot perfectly accurately but then start to fade as time goes on. That is a time to quit before you start in developing bad habits.
FWIW, if your accuracy starts dropping off over extended shooting with your initial shots on target--it is either a grip/trigger fundamentals starting downhill or declining strength issue or both.
Quit shooting in that case and reevaluate what the cause is on the next string. Concentrate on Weasel Trigger Fu and fundamentals and if that doesn't help, then it is likely your hands and arms might be done for the day. Not much different than shooting long arms, you can shoot perfectly accurately but then start to fade as time goes on. That is a time to quit before you start in developing bad habits.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:26 PM (E4rtv)
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:27 PM (abgnT)
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I-40 near West Memphis backed up.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
If you have to stop, the Quik Trip in West Memphis just before the casino is a nice one.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
If you have to stop, the Quik Trip in West Memphis just before the casino is a nice one.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:27 PM (E4rtv)
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Once again, it was a blast. I even got to shoot a little. The spawn had a blast on the Texas star with weasel buddy and then Steck. It was fun just watching them shoot clean up.
I know the spawn shot close to 1000 rounds on Saturday alone, the majority in 9mm.
She wasn't as successful on the rifle range Sunday but did get the Springfield 1903 out to 200 years before it started hurting too much.
I know the spawn shot close to 1000 rounds on Saturday alone, the majority in 9mm.
She wasn't as successful on the rifle range Sunday but did get the Springfield 1903 out to 200 years before it started hurting too much.
Posted by: lin-duh at October 18, 2026 07:27 PM (VCgbV)
Posted by: Paul Simon at October 18, 2026 07:29 PM (Cqx++)
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Missed seeing you Ed L!
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:27 PM (abgnT)
And I REALLY missed being there and seeing everyone too. Even w/ the driving, the MoMe would have been more fun than the work I had to do last week or what I'll have to do this week.
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:27 PM (abgnT)
And I REALLY missed being there and seeing everyone too. Even w/ the driving, the MoMe would have been more fun than the work I had to do last week or what I'll have to do this week.
Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:29 PM (z32fn)
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Duty day was this past week. Again, surprised at the paucity of guys coming and taking 10-15 shots with their scoped bolt-action rifles. This time of year typically swamped (for first few hours) with such traffic.
Thanks to a self-inflicted (apparently) condition, was in no shape to shoot. Probably over-did a particular phase of a resistance workout and currently have trouble putting on a shirt.
But there was a very nice, somewhat crazy Mexican-American guy, with his two nieces, taking them for their birthday shoot. I opened our smallest range for them and stayed late so they could finish their shootin'. He had an impressive quantity/variety of boom-sticks and pistols he brought. One of the nieces, um, well, beautified the range dramatically, made it easier to indulge their after-hours shooting.
Thanks to a self-inflicted (apparently) condition, was in no shape to shoot. Probably over-did a particular phase of a resistance workout and currently have trouble putting on a shirt.
But there was a very nice, somewhat crazy Mexican-American guy, with his two nieces, taking them for their birthday shoot. I opened our smallest range for them and stayed late so they could finish their shootin'. He had an impressive quantity/variety of boom-sticks and pistols he brought. One of the nieces, um, well, beautified the range dramatically, made it easier to indulge their after-hours shooting.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 07:29 PM (U/Byj)
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Great news, whig. Hope this is first step on the road to more and more activity.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 07:30 PM (U/Byj)
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The combination of good food, good discussions with intelligent people, the chance to shoot (and/or to learn more about shooting), or to take a long weekend off just to relax your mind make it a wonderful and unique event that every moron should aspire to attend.
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 18, 2026 07:31 PM (hOUT3)
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Evening all.
Sad to have missed the MoMe for the first time since I moved. Next year for sure. My orange hat safely stored.
Whig so happy to hear are back at the range.
Today's range report coming up.
Sad to have missed the MoMe for the first time since I moved. Next year for sure. My orange hat safely stored.
Whig so happy to hear are back at the range.
Today's range report coming up.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 18, 2026 07:33 PM (kJmSS)
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Am I the only one who gets watching the Sci-fi movies?
Posted by: Skip at October 18, 2026 07:33 PM (Ia/+0)
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Hrothgar, it was so lovely to see you and receive a hug. Thank you, my friend.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 07:34 PM (ua/lL)
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Glad to hear the MoMee went well, as is usual. Hope those indulging liked the Texas Lanceros and Undercrown Maduros. Two favorites, one even with an appropriate name!
Posted by: rhomboid
Thanks so much for those contributions! The Undercrown Maduro was very nice; I'll have to look for it at my local place. I was a little intimidated to take on the Texas Lancero right away, but brought one home for sometime I have a LONG time to devote to it.
Posted by: rhomboid
Thanks so much for those contributions! The Undercrown Maduro was very nice; I'll have to look for it at my local place. I was a little intimidated to take on the Texas Lancero right away, but brought one home for sometime I have a LONG time to devote to it.
Posted by: She Hobbit at October 18, 2026 07:34 PM (ftFVW)
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sock_rat_eez, Blake, and RI Red, thanks. I have been practicing dry fire but live fire is a lot more fun.
Next trip might be AR time or at least my Rossi 357 lever action carbine even though I hate firing rifles on an indoor range. The other option is a revolver shoot. I have always found shooting revolvers, particularly snubbies to improve my rifle shooting. You have to do everything just so on snubbies for accuracy which carries forth on shooting rifles again.
Just glad pain after was not excessive and I could still hold aim true on the pistols I shot. It was the strength that was lacking in the hands and arms plus some technical issues with both pistols. Haven't shot the High Standard ever as I bought it and cleaned it up about two years ago. Last time I shot the 5946 was about 5 years ago because at that time, I was using a Springfield XD-45 for a house gun.
Next trip might be AR time or at least my Rossi 357 lever action carbine even though I hate firing rifles on an indoor range. The other option is a revolver shoot. I have always found shooting revolvers, particularly snubbies to improve my rifle shooting. You have to do everything just so on snubbies for accuracy which carries forth on shooting rifles again.
Just glad pain after was not excessive and I could still hold aim true on the pistols I shot. It was the strength that was lacking in the hands and arms plus some technical issues with both pistols. Haven't shot the High Standard ever as I bought it and cleaned it up about two years ago. Last time I shot the 5946 was about 5 years ago because at that time, I was using a Springfield XD-45 for a house gun.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:34 PM (E4rtv)
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rhomboid, thank so much for your very generous donation of the cigars. Much appreciated.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 07:37 PM (ua/lL)
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Ruger Suspends Production of Several Major Models
https://shorturl.at/PH5te
"Effective immediately, Ruger is ceasing production of its LCR, SP101, GP100 and Bearcat revolvers. The company plans to complete its final production runs of the following models for 2026: SR1911, LC Carbine, PC Charger, PC Carbine, LC Charger, Redhawk, Super Redhawk, Blackhawk, Super Blackhawk, Single-Series revolvers, Vaquero, No. 1, 77-Series rifles, Hawkeye and Ruger Precision Rifle."
https://shorturl.at/PH5te
"Effective immediately, Ruger is ceasing production of its LCR, SP101, GP100 and Bearcat revolvers. The company plans to complete its final production runs of the following models for 2026: SR1911, LC Carbine, PC Charger, PC Carbine, LC Charger, Redhawk, Super Redhawk, Blackhawk, Super Blackhawk, Single-Series revolvers, Vaquero, No. 1, 77-Series rifles, Hawkeye and Ruger Precision Rifle."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 18, 2026 07:37 PM (/9wBX)
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I-40 near West Memphis backed up.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 18, 2026 07:15 PM (IOnsU)
I find that taking I-20 is a bit longer, but crossing the Mississippi at Vicksburg is a lot less congested than Memphis. Vicksburg is also a bit more conducive for taking a break from the road and exploring. The Vicksburg National Military Park Visitors' Center is less than five minutes from the I-20 exit, and there are some nice places to eat in the old Civil War era city center, some with great views of the oxbow lake that was the Mississippi in 1861-65. The salvaged ironclad USS Cairo is on display in the National Military Park. And Vicksburg isn't anywhere near as crime ridden as Memphis is.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 18, 2026 07:15 PM (IOnsU)
I find that taking I-20 is a bit longer, but crossing the Mississippi at Vicksburg is a lot less congested than Memphis. Vicksburg is also a bit more conducive for taking a break from the road and exploring. The Vicksburg National Military Park Visitors' Center is less than five minutes from the I-20 exit, and there are some nice places to eat in the old Civil War era city center, some with great views of the oxbow lake that was the Mississippi in 1861-65. The salvaged ironclad USS Cairo is on display in the National Military Park. And Vicksburg isn't anywhere near as crime ridden as Memphis is.
Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:38 PM (z32fn)
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Whig, good to hear that your return to the range was successful!
Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:40 PM (z32fn)
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"Effective immediately, Ruger is ceasing production of its LCR, SP101, GP100 and Bearcat revolvers. The company plans to complete its final production runs of the following models for 2026: SR1911, LC Carbine, PC Charger, PC Carbine, LC Charger, Redhawk, Super Redhawk, Blackhawk, Super Blackhawk, Single-Series revolvers, Vaquero, No. 1, 77-Series rifles, Hawkeye and Ruger Precision Rifle."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 18, 2026 07:37 PM
I have some of the guns on that list. I wonder if they will bring a premium for resale after this announcement.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 18, 2026 07:37 PM
I have some of the guns on that list. I wonder if they will bring a premium for resale after this announcement.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 18, 2026 07:40 PM (I43vL)
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Ben Had, it was great seeing you again and I cannot express how much all us Morons appreciate the effort and planning, that is required by you, Cow Horse Queen, and Rancher Bob (plus many others) to bring off yet another TxMoMe!
Ben Had, it was great seeing you again and I cannot express how much all us Morons appreciate the effort and planning, that is required by you, Cow Horse Queen, and Rancher Bob (plus many others) to bring off yet another TxMoMe!
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 18, 2026 07:41 PM (hOUT3)
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truth, whig!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:41 PM (VyBeY)
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Ruger ceasing production of SP-101, GP-100, and Blackhawk? Vaquero? Obviously I don't have their sales numbers if front of me, but ...... that's a lot of their historic core line-up for decades. ????
Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 07:44 PM (U/Byj)
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I do not have a big cal single action
now I never will
now I never will
Posted by: r hennigantx at October 18, 2026 07:44 PM (/+uur)
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I have some of the guns on that list. I wonder if they will bring a premium for resale after this announcement.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 18, 2026 07:40 PM (I43vL)
I'm not sure how desirable the Ruger brand is in the collecting community, or if any of the individual models to be discontinued are more desirable than others. We'll soon find out. It's also possible that production could continue for some or all of these models, but only in batches with who knows how many years in between each batch.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 18, 2026 07:40 PM (I43vL)
I'm not sure how desirable the Ruger brand is in the collecting community, or if any of the individual models to be discontinued are more desirable than others. We'll soon find out. It's also possible that production could continue for some or all of these models, but only in batches with who knows how many years in between each batch.
Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:44 PM (z32fn)
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Bride of PI got shooting instruction from both Weasel Buddy Geoff, and Steck.
Needless to say, she is as happy as George on a giant patch of fresh clover.
We have determined that she has the exact same anticipation flinch as her husband.
Question for The Horde: Is it OK to play music in your ear buds (under your hearing protection) during a range session?
I think if I get her even more relaxed and slightly distracted while she is shooting, we can minimize her flinch.
Is this a good idea or a terrible one for safety reasons?
Needless to say, she is as happy as George on a giant patch of fresh clover.
We have determined that she has the exact same anticipation flinch as her husband.
Question for The Horde: Is it OK to play music in your ear buds (under your hearing protection) during a range session?
I think if I get her even more relaxed and slightly distracted while she is shooting, we can minimize her flinch.
Is this a good idea or a terrible one for safety reasons?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 07:45 PM (HlyYF)
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Ye Olde refurbishment shop since last week is going okay. Have a stubborn barrel on a Lee Enfield No 4, Mk 1 to remove. Those were torqued to about 120 ft lbs or so against the barrel ring compared with the older No. 1. Mk. 3 which like most Mausers, has an internal ring that the barrel is torqued to rather than the receiver ring itself. No. 1 barrels are a lot easier to remove.
So, I either cut the barrel carefully around the receiver ring with a hacksaw, etc. which relieves the torque, or I take it to my gunsmith to remove as he has a hydraulic press barrel vise which gets barrels off and he has a lathe to use a parting tool if it comes to that. The receiver is a relatively uncommon BSA No. 4 Lee Enfield and has the original WWII barrel so I might just do better to buy a receiver from Sarco that already has its barrel removed. Problem is that it is a Fazakerley No. 4 Mk 2 which uses a few different parts than the No. 4 because the trigger is no longer mounted on the trigger guard but instead on a new boss added to the bottom of the receiver. You come across converted No. 4, Mk 1 postwar to this standard under the No. 4 Mk 1/2 or 1/3 markings. Boss is brazed to reciever.
So, I either cut the barrel carefully around the receiver ring with a hacksaw, etc. which relieves the torque, or I take it to my gunsmith to remove as he has a hydraulic press barrel vise which gets barrels off and he has a lathe to use a parting tool if it comes to that. The receiver is a relatively uncommon BSA No. 4 Lee Enfield and has the original WWII barrel so I might just do better to buy a receiver from Sarco that already has its barrel removed. Problem is that it is a Fazakerley No. 4 Mk 2 which uses a few different parts than the No. 4 because the trigger is no longer mounted on the trigger guard but instead on a new boss added to the bottom of the receiver. You come across converted No. 4, Mk 1 postwar to this standard under the No. 4 Mk 1/2 or 1/3 markings. Boss is brazed to reciever.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:45 PM (E4rtv)
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Sad to have missed y’all this year.
Good to hear it was a wonderful time and everyone left with the same number of holes they arrived with!
Who got the kitten?
Good to hear it was a wonderful time and everyone left with the same number of holes they arrived with!
Who got the kitten?
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 18, 2026 07:46 PM (yEz+x)
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Question for The Horde: Is it OK to play music in your ear buds (under your hearing protection) during a range session?
I think if I get her even more relaxed and slightly distracted while she is shooting, we can minimize her flinch.
Is this a good idea or a terrible one for safety reasons?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Don't do the music thing. Have to be able to hear range instructions.
Instead, look into buying a silencer and use a 22 LR pistol in the mean time to overcome flinch.
I think if I get her even more relaxed and slightly distracted while she is shooting, we can minimize her flinch.
Is this a good idea or a terrible one for safety reasons?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Don't do the music thing. Have to be able to hear range instructions.
Instead, look into buying a silencer and use a 22 LR pistol in the mean time to overcome flinch.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:47 PM (E4rtv)
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nurse, my business partner is going to take the kitten.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 07:47 PM (ua/lL)
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She Hobbit, those "lanceros" aren't as intimidating as they look. Nice, distinctive and medium profile (some say distinct citrus note). But is prudent to light one up when you've got time to burn. Those Undercrown Maduros are in my top 5 for sure. The cocoa note is always there.
Ben Had, you're more than welcome. You and your neighbors obviously are the ones who make it all possible. Feels good just to know I can add a little to one of the pleasurable activities.
Ben Had, you're more than welcome. You and your neighbors obviously are the ones who make it all possible. Feels good just to know I can add a little to one of the pleasurable activities.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 07:47 PM (U/Byj)
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Ben Had, I'm sorry I couldn't present my gifts to you and our hosts in person this year. I hope you liked them. If the USPS did its job, that is...
Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:48 PM (z32fn)
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Nurse, you were greatly missed.
Any chance you could bring your boys with you some year? I suspect they would fit in quite nicely.
That way you could get family time and Moron time over the same weekend!
Any chance you could bring your boys with you some year? I suspect they would fit in quite nicely.
That way you could get family time and Moron time over the same weekend!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 07:49 PM (HlyYF)
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Well, glad y'all enjoyed Texas...
Mrs is recovering nicely, so Jr has promised to drag me to the next "group shoot"
(Every few weeks several will get together w/a category of arms for some range time)
This will be an AR15 gathering, with different makes, optics, and ammo and mags (I keep the Maglula)
It's always really fun and interesting...
Mrs is recovering nicely, so Jr has promised to drag me to the next "group shoot"
(Every few weeks several will get together w/a category of arms for some range time)
This will be an AR15 gathering, with different makes, optics, and ammo and mags (I keep the Maglula)
It's always really fun and interesting...
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 07:50 PM (pfXMo)
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I have some of the guns on that list. I wonder if they will bring a premium for resale after this announcement.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 18, 2026 07:40 PM (I43vL)
I'm betting that the big single actions will greatly appreciate. My LGS had a dozen Ruger revolvers on their Gunbroker page and they disappeared overnight. I grabbed the last one they had, a .44 Magnum Dragoon, to throw in the safe for investment purposes. If I'm wrong, well, at least I have a .44 Magnum.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 18, 2026 07:40 PM (I43vL)
I'm betting that the big single actions will greatly appreciate. My LGS had a dozen Ruger revolvers on their Gunbroker page and they disappeared overnight. I grabbed the last one they had, a .44 Magnum Dragoon, to throw in the safe for investment purposes. If I'm wrong, well, at least I have a .44 Magnum.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 18, 2026 07:50 PM (/9wBX)
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EdLl, Thank you so much for your generous gifts, They did arrive and I apologize for not getting a card sent back to you.
I plan to rectify that on Monday.
I plan to rectify that on Monday.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 07:51 PM (ua/lL)
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Well I just pulled out of Chicago
Partied old Chi-town 'round
Rollin' along that Interstate 10
Lord knows we're Texas bound
Hello Texas
Sure is good to see you again
Hello Texas
Sure is good to see me a friend
Partied old Chi-town 'round
Rollin' along that Interstate 10
Lord knows we're Texas bound
Hello Texas
Sure is good to see you again
Hello Texas
Sure is good to see me a friend
Posted by: r hennigantx at October 18, 2026 07:51 PM (/+uur)
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I'm not sure how desirable the Ruger brand is in the collecting community, or if any of the individual models to be discontinued are more desirable than others. We'll soon find out. It's also possible that production could continue for some or all of these models, but only in batches with who knows how many years in between each batch.
Posted by: Ed L
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There are probably more hard core Ruger collectors than milsurp types by numbers. Particularly the different variants put out by big gun distribution warehouses.
This was a patently stupid decision by Ruger, perhaps, as a poison pill action because Beretta wants to buy Ruger and Ruger has been resisting. Beretta already has a big chunk of shares in Ruger.
Most of the remaining products are all derivative crap that you can buy as good if not better from other makers. Ruger was a leader in revolvers making probably the top best made factory production revolvers in the business--better than Colt, better than Smith and Wesson, and certainly better than Taurus. The reason was investment casting technology that Bill Ruger developed and that Ruger overdesigned all of his revolvers for extreme longevity.
Posted by: Ed L
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There are probably more hard core Ruger collectors than milsurp types by numbers. Particularly the different variants put out by big gun distribution warehouses.
This was a patently stupid decision by Ruger, perhaps, as a poison pill action because Beretta wants to buy Ruger and Ruger has been resisting. Beretta already has a big chunk of shares in Ruger.
Most of the remaining products are all derivative crap that you can buy as good if not better from other makers. Ruger was a leader in revolvers making probably the top best made factory production revolvers in the business--better than Colt, better than Smith and Wesson, and certainly better than Taurus. The reason was investment casting technology that Bill Ruger developed and that Ruger overdesigned all of his revolvers for extreme longevity.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:52 PM (E4rtv)
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Haven't kept up, but subtracting all those models from Ruger's line-up leaves them with ...... what? Quick glance the list includes almost every Ruger model I know, have shot, or thought about getting.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 07:52 PM (U/Byj)
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Pillage Idiot, I believe ear buds are a bad idea anywhere except at home. I believe they are a distraction but, that's because I depend on my ears for situational awareness.
Your mileage may vary.
Your mileage may vary.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at October 18, 2026 07:53 PM (eGzf1)
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I'm betting that the big single actions will greatly appreciate. My LGS had a dozen Ruger revolvers on their Gunbroker page and they disappeared overnight. I grabbed the last one they had, a .44 Magnum Dragoon, to throw in the safe for investment purposes. If I'm wrong, well, at least I have a .44 Magnum.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
Pretty much. Ruger owned that handgun hunting market/bear protection for average huntsmen in the field. Neither Smith nor Colt ever did as well in it.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
Pretty much. Ruger owned that handgun hunting market/bear protection for average huntsmen in the field. Neither Smith nor Colt ever did as well in it.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:53 PM (E4rtv)
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just look at what happened to Ruger Old Army prices after they were discontinued ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 07:54 PM (VyBeY)
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perhaps, as a poison pill action because Beretta wants to buy Ruger and Ruger has been resisting."
Couple of us were talking about that the other day. That's my take as well...
Couple of us were talking about that the other day. That's my take as well...
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 07:54 PM (pfXMo)
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 07:56 PM (pfXMo)
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82 Haven't kept up, but subtracting all those models from Ruger's line-up leaves them with ...... what? Quick glance the list includes almost every Ruger model I know, have shot, or thought about getting.
Posted by: rhomboid
Derivative crap. The keltec derived designs for their cheap small pistols, the derivative Glock design for handguns, the derivative Savage barrel nut design aka American rifle, etc. Black day for people that like older Rugers.
They are keeping the Mini 14 (which is now vastly overpriced versus ARs), dunno about their American line of pistols, and they are keeping their Marlin/Glenfield models out so far.
Posted by: rhomboid
Derivative crap. The keltec derived designs for their cheap small pistols, the derivative Glock design for handguns, the derivative Savage barrel nut design aka American rifle, etc. Black day for people that like older Rugers.
They are keeping the Mini 14 (which is now vastly overpriced versus ARs), dunno about their American line of pistols, and they are keeping their Marlin/Glenfield models out so far.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:56 PM (E4rtv)
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Question for The Horde: Is it OK to play music in your ear buds (under your hearing protection) during a range session?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 07:45 PM (HlyYF)
Can't speak for any others, but the range at my LGS won't allow you to do that because doing so makes it even harder to hear the range safety officer issuing commands. I like whig's idea a lot better, especially if you're in one of the free states that don't require NFA registration.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 07:45 PM (HlyYF)
Can't speak for any others, but the range at my LGS won't allow you to do that because doing so makes it even harder to hear the range safety officer issuing commands. I like whig's idea a lot better, especially if you're in one of the free states that don't require NFA registration.
Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 07:57 PM (z32fn)
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Well guys and gals, as much as I'd like to stay and chat, your ol' pal Weasel is pooped and going to bed. Hope to see you next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:57 PM (abgnT)
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Ed L, I'm curious. Any general impressions to share on the CC9. It's on my short list for my next carry gun and have shot friend's briefly. Would need more range time to know for sure, but I had a good time with it. Seemed to fit my hand well. I've been told that HK focused on the ergonomics of making the gun's "grip" and distance to the trigger more like a bigger frame model.
Posted by: YellowBird at October 18, 2026 07:57 PM (MEbkQ)
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87 Ruger's line-up leaves them with ...... what?"
*looks at 10/22s over there....
Heh
Posted by: man
You can get clone 10/22 receivers that are better made than Ruger's nowadays. Their elimination of their precision rifles was also a head scratcher.
*looks at 10/22s over there....
Heh
Posted by: man
You can get clone 10/22 receivers that are better made than Ruger's nowadays. Their elimination of their precision rifles was also a head scratcher.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:57 PM (E4rtv)
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Glad to hear the MoMe was spectacular as always. Missing everyone. To next year!
Posted by: Iris at October 18, 2026 07:59 PM (286+n)
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I’ll be honest and say that there were so many people that I met at the inaugural MoMe, that if forced to identify anyone in a police lineup, I may be able to remember 6 or 7 (excluding Ben Had and Weasel) and including Cybersmythe and Hadrian from my neck of the woods. I now have a lay of the land and know what to expect so next time, I might have enough chutzpah to stay longer.
Posted by: TxAnn at October 18, 2026 07:59 PM (itAg7)
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Everyone, there's something about The Horde I want you to understand.
The horde embodies the America you remember. Great people getting together for a friendly gathering to enjoy themselves.
A fun atmosphere of camaraderie with like minded conservatives, talking, laughing, renewing old friendships and creating new ones. Lots of great food, drink and conversation in a comfortable venue with extremely gracious and enthusiastic hosts. There's beer, wine and hooch. And snacks. And food. Did I mention food? (Good Lord, they roasted an entire pig!)
And music. And karaoke. And dancing.
And yes, there's guns. But only IF you're so inclined. It's not a gathering of bunker mentality gun nuts. But if you want a place to bring your pistol or rifle and practice and learn from experienced shooters with a strong emphasis on safety, well, that America still exists.
This is the Horde.
This is the Texas MoMe.
This is America.
The horde embodies the America you remember. Great people getting together for a friendly gathering to enjoy themselves.
A fun atmosphere of camaraderie with like minded conservatives, talking, laughing, renewing old friendships and creating new ones. Lots of great food, drink and conversation in a comfortable venue with extremely gracious and enthusiastic hosts. There's beer, wine and hooch. And snacks. And food. Did I mention food? (Good Lord, they roasted an entire pig!)
And music. And karaoke. And dancing.
And yes, there's guns. But only IF you're so inclined. It's not a gathering of bunker mentality gun nuts. But if you want a place to bring your pistol or rifle and practice and learn from experienced shooters with a strong emphasis on safety, well, that America still exists.
This is the Horde.
This is the Texas MoMe.
This is America.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 18, 2026 07:59 PM (uGZRR)
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I may have to move up my plans to get that LC Charger converted to 460 rowland now.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 18, 2026 08:00 PM (P4bJX)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 08:00 PM (VyBeY)
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Thanks for all of the ear bud advice.
I have never heard any of our good shooters mention using them, so I expected there was a good reason not to.
I have never heard any of our good shooters mention using them, so I expected there was a good reason not to.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:00 PM (HlyYF)
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whig, excellent perspective on the Ruger situation, didn't know Beretta was looking to absorb Ruger. Like I said don't have the spreadsheets in front of me but hard to imagine that long list of iconic and new models doesn't represent a large % of their sales.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 08:01 PM (U/Byj)
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Iris,
We definitely missed you and Sharon.
I wanted Sharon to show off her new toy in a dazzling display of paper shredding!
We definitely missed you and Sharon.
I wanted Sharon to show off her new toy in a dazzling display of paper shredding!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:01 PM (HlyYF)
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Notice they said suspended. Some ppl are speculating that they will move production to antoher state.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 18, 2026 08:01 PM (P4bJX)
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Most important bit to calipers (after being able to read them) is them having both sets of jaws. So many things I need to measure the inside of some hole, pipe, etc.
Posted by: GWB at October 18, 2026 08:02 PM (kU0PQ)
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TxAnn, thank you so much for the delightful cookies. It was a pleasure to meet you.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 08:02 PM (ua/lL)
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85 just look at what happened to Ruger Old Army prices after they were discontinued ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
Yep. Bill Ruger made markets by introducing new designs. The mgmt since he died seem to be typical MBA types that worried more about cheap derivatives of other company's designs rather than new path breaking ones for Ruger. Ruger used to have a fair chunk of the semi auto market with its P Series which promptly led to several relatively bad series of handguns under the new management. The SR series which never did particularly well compared to the P series and the newest American series that simply is not selling.
Even Smith and Wesson seem to be doing better recently than Ruger on new innovative designs as is Colt.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
Yep. Bill Ruger made markets by introducing new designs. The mgmt since he died seem to be typical MBA types that worried more about cheap derivatives of other company's designs rather than new path breaking ones for Ruger. Ruger used to have a fair chunk of the semi auto market with its P Series which promptly led to several relatively bad series of handguns under the new management. The SR series which never did particularly well compared to the P series and the newest American series that simply is not selling.
Even Smith and Wesson seem to be doing better recently than Ruger on new innovative designs as is Colt.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:02 PM (E4rtv)
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You can get clone 10/22 receivers that are better made than Ruger's nowadays"
I know. Youngling has a Brownells w/Kidd bolt and hardware, CF barrel.
It's really nice
I know. Youngling has a Brownells w/Kidd bolt and hardware, CF barrel.
It's really nice
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:03 PM (pfXMo)
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TxAnn,
Were you responsible for the themed cookies?
They were perfectly crafted AND delicious!
We eventually had to re-locate Weasel away from the cookie table.
Were you responsible for the themed cookies?
They were perfectly crafted AND delicious!
We eventually had to re-locate Weasel away from the cookie table.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:03 PM (HlyYF)
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Had a decent day at the range working with my new Bodyguard2.Found I shot better one handed than two. I think I am tilting the gun and shooting lower left but groups were good. Then Iris picked it up and put four rounds in a nice tight group center target. I see a possible new purchase in her future.
Blaster was able to get the new pearl grips on my Kimber so it looks pretty again.
Blaster was able to get the new pearl grips on my Kimber so it looks pretty again.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 18, 2026 08:04 PM (kJmSS)
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Guns and Ammo,
Ruger has confirmed that multiple firearm lines will be discontinued effective immediately, with many more to cease production by the end of 2026. Four revolver lines have already been sunset. These include:
LCR
SP101
GP100
Bearcat
The following lines will be going through final production runs through the remainder of the year, and will cease by the start of 2027:
SR1911
LC Carbine
PC Charger
PC Carbine
LC Charger
Redhawk
Super Redhawk
Blackhawk
Super Blackhawk
Single-Series revolvers
Vaquero
Ruger No. 1
77-Series rifles
Hawkeye
Ruger Precision Rifle
Ruger has confirmed that multiple firearm lines will be discontinued effective immediately, with many more to cease production by the end of 2026. Four revolver lines have already been sunset. These include:
LCR
SP101
GP100
Bearcat
The following lines will be going through final production runs through the remainder of the year, and will cease by the start of 2027:
SR1911
LC Carbine
PC Charger
PC Carbine
LC Charger
Redhawk
Super Redhawk
Blackhawk
Super Blackhawk
Single-Series revolvers
Vaquero
Ruger No. 1
77-Series rifles
Hawkeye
Ruger Precision Rifle
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:04 PM (E4rtv)
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10/22, right, forgot about that one. And whig yeah, Precision Rifle? Don't have one but have nothing but good things from those that do. Gotta be as you say some merger/acquisition strategery here. One of the prominent American gun makers just zeroing out a huge part of their line-up, including most of their iconic models, just seems odd.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2026 08:04 PM (U/Byj)
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Tonight's Highway Patrol...
He stole the car at 7:30... and the people of that area wake up early and noticed the car stolen at 7:45.
I think these Hollywood people don't know what "early" is, especially on a farm.
He stole the car at 7:30... and the people of that area wake up early and noticed the car stolen at 7:45.
I think these Hollywood people don't know what "early" is, especially on a farm.
Posted by: GWB at October 18, 2026 08:05 PM (kU0PQ)
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I use AXIL buds as ears. They work well, but I don't use the Bluetooth...
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:06 PM (pfXMo)
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60 Ruger Suspends Production of Several Major Models
https://shorturl.at/PH5te
"Effective immediately, Ruger is ceasing production of its LCR, SP101, GP100 and Bearcat revolvers. The company plans to complete its final production runs of the following models for 2026: SR1911, LC Carbine, PC Charger, PC Carbine, LC Charger, Redhawk, Super Redhawk, Blackhawk, Super Blackhawk, Single-Series revolvers, Vaquero, No. 1, 77-Series rifles, Hawkeye and Ruger Precision Rifle."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 18, 2026 07:37 PM (/9wBX)
This is sad news.
https://shorturl.at/PH5te
"Effective immediately, Ruger is ceasing production of its LCR, SP101, GP100 and Bearcat revolvers. The company plans to complete its final production runs of the following models for 2026: SR1911, LC Carbine, PC Charger, PC Carbine, LC Charger, Redhawk, Super Redhawk, Blackhawk, Super Blackhawk, Single-Series revolvers, Vaquero, No. 1, 77-Series rifles, Hawkeye and Ruger Precision Rifle."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 18, 2026 07:37 PM (/9wBX)
This is sad news.
Posted by: Eromero at October 18, 2026 08:07 PM (LHPAg)
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Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 07:52 PM (E4rtv)
Thanks for the background about the Ruger/Beretta soap opera. Ditching their most storied products, especially the revolver lineup, would make for one heck of a poison pill. Ruger has dominated revolvers for nearly thirty years ever since S&W reduced their focus on revolvers in the 1990s and Colt abandoned them completely for nearly 20 years until 2017. I've never tracked Ruger in the collectors' marketplace. The only (maybe) collectible Ruger I have is an old 10/22 with wooden furniture that's practically new.
Thanks for the background about the Ruger/Beretta soap opera. Ditching their most storied products, especially the revolver lineup, would make for one heck of a poison pill. Ruger has dominated revolvers for nearly thirty years ever since S&W reduced their focus on revolvers in the 1990s and Colt abandoned them completely for nearly 20 years until 2017. I've never tracked Ruger in the collectors' marketplace. The only (maybe) collectible Ruger I have is an old 10/22 with wooden furniture that's practically new.
Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 08:07 PM (z32fn)
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Home safe from the MoMeet.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 18, 2026 08:09 PM (u82oZ)
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Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 08:02 PM (ua/lL)
I cannot, I repeat cannot, thank you enough for the personal escort because I was pretty frazzled after missing a turn. It made all the difference! Look up southern hospitality in the dictionary and your picture is there. Thanks to Weasel for also being a great ambassador.
I cannot, I repeat cannot, thank you enough for the personal escort because I was pretty frazzled after missing a turn. It made all the difference! Look up southern hospitality in the dictionary and your picture is there. Thanks to Weasel for also being a great ambassador.
Posted by: TxAnn at October 18, 2026 08:09 PM (itAg7)
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Thanks to all of the crew that pulled off another spectacular MoMe!
Ben Had and Weasel, Cow Horse Queen and Rancher Bob, as well as the chefs - Pete Bog and wife, and CBD.
Also big thanks to the RSOs that kept the ranges safe and efficient and great learning experiences.
And thanks to everyone else that moves tables to set up for meals, cleans up trash, and helps take care of our "guest ranch", etc.
Ben Had and Weasel, Cow Horse Queen and Rancher Bob, as well as the chefs - Pete Bog and wife, and CBD.
Also big thanks to the RSOs that kept the ranges safe and efficient and great learning experiences.
And thanks to everyone else that moves tables to set up for meals, cleans up trash, and helps take care of our "guest ranch", etc.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:10 PM (HlyYF)
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{{{PI}}} Here's a hug I would definitely have preferred to give you in person. I'm still having trouble locking back the slide on the Bodyguard. The thing is so tiny hard to get a grip but it fits in my pocket and hardly prints more than my phone.I think putting an optic on it will help. Next up, a holster.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 18, 2026 08:12 PM (kJmSS)
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Disco Doof did make another fabulous MoMe appearance on Saturday night.
Yet again, Doof was taking a nap and missed the festivities.
(That guy has the worst luck!)
Yet again, Doof was taking a nap and missed the festivities.
(That guy has the worst luck!)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:13 PM (HlyYF)
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Question for The Horde: Is it OK to play music in your ear buds (under your hearing protection) during a range session?
I think if I get her even more relaxed and slightly distracted while she is shooting, we can minimize her flinch.
Is this a good idea or a terrible one for safety reasons?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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I have heard of shooters that play music on their electronic hearing protection but not on separate ear buds under ear muffs. The electronic hearing protection is made to let voices in but gun fire out. During competition the shooters can hear people talking but their hearing is protected from all the gunfire. I have sat on the firing line for the whole day with pretty much constant firing going on but can still hear the RSO commands.
You just need to look into different types of electronic hearing protection made specifically for gunfire noise. Do not use ear buds made for listening to music or phones.
I think if I get her even more relaxed and slightly distracted while she is shooting, we can minimize her flinch.
Is this a good idea or a terrible one for safety reasons?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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I have heard of shooters that play music on their electronic hearing protection but not on separate ear buds under ear muffs. The electronic hearing protection is made to let voices in but gun fire out. During competition the shooters can hear people talking but their hearing is protected from all the gunfire. I have sat on the firing line for the whole day with pretty much constant firing going on but can still hear the RSO commands.
You just need to look into different types of electronic hearing protection made specifically for gunfire noise. Do not use ear buds made for listening to music or phones.
Posted by: lin-duh at October 18, 2026 08:13 PM (VCgbV)
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Please consider this an open thread to discuss and analyze your TXMoMe experience!
Alas, never been, and didn't go this year. So, as usual, my experience was to read about it in AoS comments.
Late last night, it occurred to me that the TxMoMe is similar to Christmas. Weeks of anticipation and preparation, some enjoyment on the Eve of, then the big day finally arrives, with all the family, feasting, and fun. Then all too soon, boom! it's suddenly over. Except for those relatives who overstay and have to bekicked out encouraged to depart the next morning. Then the looking forward to Next Year begins.
Anyway, looks kinda like that from a distance.
Alas, never been, and didn't go this year. So, as usual, my experience was to read about it in AoS comments.
Late last night, it occurred to me that the TxMoMe is similar to Christmas. Weeks of anticipation and preparation, some enjoyment on the Eve of, then the big day finally arrives, with all the family, feasting, and fun. Then all too soon, boom! it's suddenly over. Except for those relatives who overstay and have to be
Anyway, looks kinda like that from a distance.
Posted by: mindful webworker - and the clean-up after at October 18, 2026 08:17 PM (Cl/mc)
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I use Axil earbuds now with the Bluetooth. I have used walkers and Grizzly before too. The Axils are also great about the wind noise. They worked like a champ Friday which was extremely windy.
Posted by: lin-duh at October 18, 2026 08:18 PM (VCgbV)
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I like the AXIL xcor pro. Easy to operate (ambient sound on/off), and do a good job, even with larger calibers indoor...
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:20 PM (pfXMo)
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BTW, the guy playing the escaped prisoner in tonight's Highway Patrol was the warden in an episode of The Virginian. Bit players did that a lot; it's part of what made TV in those days fun.
(He also played numerous policemen, guards, and a detective.)
(He also played numerous policemen, guards, and a detective.)
Posted by: GWB at October 18, 2026 08:20 PM (kU0PQ)
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FWIW, PSA has a good sale price on AXIL buds...
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:23 PM (pfXMo)
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106 Were you responsible for the themed cookies?
They were perfectly crafted AND delicious!
We eventually had to re-locate Weasel away from the cookie table.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:03 PM (HlyYF)
That was moi and thank you. It was my pleasure. I wanted to make something special and especially for those who aren’t from TX. And what is a MoMe without a semi automatic cookie right?
They were perfectly crafted AND delicious!
We eventually had to re-locate Weasel away from the cookie table.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:03 PM (HlyYF)
That was moi and thank you. It was my pleasure. I wanted to make something special and especially for those who aren’t from TX. And what is a MoMe without a semi automatic cookie right?
Posted by: TxAnn at October 18, 2026 08:24 PM (itAg7)
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I didn't shoot as much as I had planned at the MoMe (my wrist twitch kicked in again), but I want to thank Helena Handbasket for her patient instruction. I heard three pings, so I didn't waste all the rounds I took.
If the Terrible Times come, I won't be any use as a combatant, but I can load clips for the fighters.
If the Terrible Times come, I won't be any use as a combatant, but I can load clips for the fighters.
Posted by: Weak Geek at October 18, 2026 08:24 PM (55F0+)
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{{{Sharon}}}!
I like the rack where you have the "U" formed by the index finger and thumb of the right hand on the grip, and you make the "U" of your left hand on the slide face directly opposite the other U.
You can then push your elbows closer together with the bigger muscles in your shoulders to rack the slide.
You might have to rotate your stance slightly to the right, so your weapon is facing in a safe direction down range when you rack that way.
You might clear your weapon and try it at home and see if that is easier for you?
I like the rack where you have the "U" formed by the index finger and thumb of the right hand on the grip, and you make the "U" of your left hand on the slide face directly opposite the other U.
You can then push your elbows closer together with the bigger muscles in your shoulders to rack the slide.
You might have to rotate your stance slightly to the right, so your weapon is facing in a safe direction down range when you rack that way.
You might clear your weapon and try it at home and see if that is easier for you?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:24 PM (HlyYF)
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Continued from Guns and Ammo story,
While these cuts are extensive, Ruger has plenty of major lines remaining that will be continuing onward:
Pistols: LCP, RXM, MAX-9, Security, Ruger-5.7 and Mark IV families.
Revolvers: Wrangler and Super Wrangler.
Rifles: American Gen II, American Rimfire, Precision Rimfire, 10/22, Mini-14, and Harrier AR-15s.
Ruger's Glenfield and Marlin product lines will not be affected by this announcement as well. The RXD suppressor lines, produced in collaboration with Dead Air, will also be unaffected.
While these cuts are extensive, Ruger has plenty of major lines remaining that will be continuing onward:
Pistols: LCP, RXM, MAX-9, Security, Ruger-5.7 and Mark IV families.
Revolvers: Wrangler and Super Wrangler.
Rifles: American Gen II, American Rimfire, Precision Rimfire, 10/22, Mini-14, and Harrier AR-15s.
Ruger's Glenfield and Marlin product lines will not be affected by this announcement as well. The RXD suppressor lines, produced in collaboration with Dead Air, will also be unaffected.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:24 PM (E4rtv)
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I installed a pair of headphone speakers in an old pair of David Clarks years ago, solely to play the 1812 while firing the 629 snubby at overaged watermelons ... this was before ubiquitous phone camera videos, or it would have gone viral, lol.
haven't used them again, though I still have / use those muffs.
overall, would not recommend; I value the situational awareness far, far more.
when operating radio out in the parks I only use one earbud for the same reasons.
haven't used them again, though I still have / use those muffs.
overall, would not recommend; I value the situational awareness far, far more.
when operating radio out in the parks I only use one earbud for the same reasons.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 08:24 PM (VyBeY)
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Ed L, I'm curious. Any general impressions to share on the CC9.
Posted by: YellowBird at October 18, 2026 07:57 PM (MEbkQ)
Bottom line: I think it's worth the money. I'd recommend it, even w/o any optics.
Pluses:
- Accuracy: I shot 2" groups at 7 yards using both hands today. It'll do the job if you do yours.
- Ergonomics: I think it fits my hand better than any other compact carry 9mm handgun on the market. My benchmarks of comparison are the SIG P365 and SCCY. It's also a lot easier to field strip for cleaning than the Glock or SIG. It also comes with full ambi controls right out of the box.
- Reliability: I've shot several hundred rounds through my CC9 in the last year or so. The only malfunction I've had was a dud round, so it wasn't the gun's fault.
Minuses:
- Cost. This is the biggest minus. You can get decent compact carry handguns for a couple hundred less than what H&K will charge you. Magazines are $50 each.
- 10 round magazine: The 10 round magazine leaves my pinky finger half floating in the air. I need to use the slightly longer 12 round magazine to get a full grip with all my fingers on the pistol.
- Stiff recoil spring: This might be a bit difficult to rack.
Posted by: YellowBird at October 18, 2026 07:57 PM (MEbkQ)
Bottom line: I think it's worth the money. I'd recommend it, even w/o any optics.
Pluses:
- Accuracy: I shot 2" groups at 7 yards using both hands today. It'll do the job if you do yours.
- Ergonomics: I think it fits my hand better than any other compact carry 9mm handgun on the market. My benchmarks of comparison are the SIG P365 and SCCY. It's also a lot easier to field strip for cleaning than the Glock or SIG. It also comes with full ambi controls right out of the box.
- Reliability: I've shot several hundred rounds through my CC9 in the last year or so. The only malfunction I've had was a dud round, so it wasn't the gun's fault.
Minuses:
- Cost. This is the biggest minus. You can get decent compact carry handguns for a couple hundred less than what H&K will charge you. Magazines are $50 each.
- 10 round magazine: The 10 round magazine leaves my pinky finger half floating in the air. I need to use the slightly longer 12 round magazine to get a full grip with all my fingers on the pistol.
- Stiff recoil spring: This might be a bit difficult to rack.
Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 08:25 PM (z32fn)
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:27 PM (pfXMo)
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Thanks for the background about the Ruger/Beretta soap opera. Ditching their most storied products, especially the revolver lineup, would make for one heck of a poison pill. Ruger has dominated revolvers for nearly thirty years ever since S&W reduced their focus on revolvers in the 1990s and Colt abandoned them completely for nearly 20 years until 2017. I've never tracked Ruger in the collectors' marketplace. The only (maybe) collectible Ruger I have is an old 10/22 with wooden furniture that's practically new.
Posted by: Ed L
They are their own subset of collectors similar to S&W collectors with 20th century arms. Colt is odd for collectors, they made some excellent revolvers that are not named after snakes but these bring much less on the market due to less demand than similar Smith and Wesson products of the same vintage.
My guess is that people are afraid of these revolvers being out of time, somewhat excessively from my experience.
Posted by: Ed L
They are their own subset of collectors similar to S&W collectors with 20th century arms. Colt is odd for collectors, they made some excellent revolvers that are not named after snakes but these bring much less on the market due to less demand than similar Smith and Wesson products of the same vintage.
My guess is that people are afraid of these revolvers being out of time, somewhat excessively from my experience.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:28 PM (E4rtv)
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Thank you Ben Had for creating such a great gathering of amazing people. And thank you to CowHorseQueen and RancherBob for offering their home and livelihood as a space to host the festivities.
All y’all who were there, hug yourselves. How fortunate we are to have such opportunity here in America. Can you imagine this happening anywhere else?
All y’all who were there, hug yourselves. How fortunate we are to have such opportunity here in America. Can you imagine this happening anywhere else?
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 18, 2026 08:29 PM (yEz+x)
Posted by: wth at October 18, 2026 08:29 PM (oq9dX)
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Eromeros had a great time at their 10th TxMoMe. I estimate we had 400 rounds burned by us and an additional 400 rounds others burned. Enjoyed working the table and loaning out firearms. It was good to see old friends, and meet new ones. The best people in the world, people who get it.
Posted by: Eromero at October 18, 2026 08:30 PM (LHPAg)
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131 Harrier AR-15s."
They just bought Anderson last year... hmm. Did they overpay?
Posted by: man
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Very possibly. Democrat presidents were great gun salesmen for gunmakers. Weaker AR producers are getting winnowed out as it is a commodity marketplace nowadays.
They just bought Anderson last year... hmm. Did they overpay?
Posted by: man
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Very possibly. Democrat presidents were great gun salesmen for gunmakers. Weaker AR producers are getting winnowed out as it is a commodity marketplace nowadays.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:30 PM (E4rtv)
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First Timer at the TxMoMe. I will not be able to get this grin off my face until November at the earliest.
Thank you Ben Had, Rancher Bob, and Cow Horse Queen for the outstanding hospitality!
Thank you Weasel and the RSOs for conducting two safe and fun-filled range days. Special thanks to Steck for introducing pistols to me (my first time holding and shooting one) and to Helena Handbasket & Geoff for helping me safely and properly operate, load, hold, and aim Weasel's loaner pistol. Targets and metal plates were hit, the hostage taker target had more hits than the hostage silhouette, and I returned with the same number of holes with which I started (an important and much-desired outcome!)
It was a joy spectating the skill and marksmanship of other shooters.
What a weekend!
Thank you Ben Had, Rancher Bob, and Cow Horse Queen for the outstanding hospitality!
Thank you Weasel and the RSOs for conducting two safe and fun-filled range days. Special thanks to Steck for introducing pistols to me (my first time holding and shooting one) and to Helena Handbasket & Geoff for helping me safely and properly operate, load, hold, and aim Weasel's loaner pistol. Targets and metal plates were hit, the hostage taker target had more hits than the hostage silhouette, and I returned with the same number of holes with which I started (an important and much-desired outcome!)
It was a joy spectating the skill and marksmanship of other shooters.
What a weekend!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 18, 2026 08:33 PM (wVcYX)
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I-40 near West Memphis backed up.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 18, 2026 07:15 PM (IOnsU)
Not surprising, at all.
But y'all all stay safe on the way home.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 18, 2026 07:15 PM (IOnsU)
Not surprising, at all.
But y'all all stay safe on the way home.
Posted by: GWB at October 18, 2026 08:34 PM (kU0PQ)
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Weaker AR producers are getting winnowed out as it is a commodity marketplace nowadays."
This. I'm not going to pay a Ruger premium for a basic AR that I'm going to mod anyway.
Wait, did I say mod? I meant "lose in a tragic kayak flip"...
This. I'm not going to pay a Ruger premium for a basic AR that I'm going to mod anyway.
Wait, did I say mod? I meant "lose in a tragic kayak flip"...
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:34 PM (pfXMo)
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95 Everyone, there's something about The Horde I want you to understand.
The horde embodies the America you remember. Great people getting together for a friendly gathering to enjoy themselves.
...
This is the Horde.
This is the Texas MoMe.
This is America.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 18, 2026 07:59 PM (uGZRR)
That brought a tear to my eye.
Hopefully my employment situation improves in the near future so me and my Better Half can make it to Corsicana next year.
The horde embodies the America you remember. Great people getting together for a friendly gathering to enjoy themselves.
...
This is the Horde.
This is the Texas MoMe.
This is America.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 18, 2026 07:59 PM (uGZRR)
That brought a tear to my eye.
Hopefully my employment situation improves in the near future so me and my Better Half can make it to Corsicana next year.
Posted by: Half Dozen at October 18, 2026 08:35 PM (JZhkI)
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126 I didn't shoot as much as I had planned at the MoMe (my wrist twitch kicked in again), but I want to thank Helena Handbasket for her patient instruction. I heard three pings, so I didn't waste all the rounds I took.
If the Terrible Times come, I won't be any use as a combatant, but I can load clips for the fighters.
Posted by: Weak Geek
You might try a revolver if you have some issues with wrists. Six for sure beats uncertainty and if recoil from revolvers is an issue then consider shooting 38 Special wadcutters--they won't expand but will make neat holes in critters if needed.
Semi autos are a bit more finicky and some absolutely hate anything other than locked wrists.
If the Terrible Times come, I won't be any use as a combatant, but I can load clips for the fighters.
Posted by: Weak Geek
You might try a revolver if you have some issues with wrists. Six for sure beats uncertainty and if recoil from revolvers is an issue then consider shooting 38 Special wadcutters--they won't expand but will make neat holes in critters if needed.
Semi autos are a bit more finicky and some absolutely hate anything other than locked wrists.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:35 PM (E4rtv)
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Mitutoyo is a nice caliper, and I have used hundreds. But if I'm buying one it's a Starrett or Brown & Sharpe. That's just how I roll.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at October 18, 2026 08:36 PM (cJOax)
143
This year completely got away from me. I had every intention of hitting the MoMee, but family obligations had me tied up.
Posted by: nogooddeed at October 18, 2026 08:36 PM (KBrhx)
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but I can load clips for the fighters."
Magazines. You can use my maglula (speed loading device)
Magazines. You can use my maglula (speed loading device)
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:37 PM (pfXMo)
145
Reverse course, but I use the lanes on the other side of the highway.
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:17 PM (abgnT)
try it the other way. it would add excitement and help you stay awake.
Posted by: Pete Bog at October 18, 2026 07:22 PM (QyMPf)
So, home via the original side of the highway, but in reverse? Doubly exciting. Especially with everyone shouting at you, "You're going the wrong way!"
Posted by: Weasel at October 18, 2026 07:17 PM (abgnT)
try it the other way. it would add excitement and help you stay awake.
Posted by: Pete Bog at October 18, 2026 07:22 PM (QyMPf)
So, home via the original side of the highway, but in reverse? Doubly exciting. Especially with everyone shouting at you, "You're going the wrong way!"
Posted by: GWB at October 18, 2026 08:38 PM (kU0PQ)
146
so true, nurse!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 08:38 PM (VyBeY)
147
This. I'm not going to pay a Ruger premium for a basic AR that I'm going to mod anyway.
Wait, did I say mod? I meant "lose in a tragic kayak flip"...
Posted by: man
Same trouble that Ruger had selling their 1911's, Bill Ruger was instrumental in using cheaper investment castings for handgun frames than the forged steel and aluminium at the time from other makers. Ruger's investment casting company, Pine Tree something or such, made 1911 frames for a number of makers before Ruger decided to make their own. Didn't work out that well for Ruger though selling the complete firearm.
Wait, did I say mod? I meant "lose in a tragic kayak flip"...
Posted by: man
Same trouble that Ruger had selling their 1911's, Bill Ruger was instrumental in using cheaper investment castings for handgun frames than the forged steel and aluminium at the time from other makers. Ruger's investment casting company, Pine Tree something or such, made 1911 frames for a number of makers before Ruger decided to make their own. Didn't work out that well for Ruger though selling the complete firearm.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:38 PM (E4rtv)
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Ed L, I'm curious. Any general impressions to share on the CC9.
Posted by: YellowBird at October 18, 2026 07:57 PM (MEbkQ)
YellowBird, I forgot to add that the CC9 is one of the few small 9mm carry guns that comes with adjustable backstraps. Being able to adjust the pistol to your hand is a pretty big thing since a lot of these small carry 9mm pistols can be really uncomfortable to shoot if they don't fit your hand well (if at all).
Posted by: YellowBird at October 18, 2026 07:57 PM (MEbkQ)
YellowBird, I forgot to add that the CC9 is one of the few small 9mm carry guns that comes with adjustable backstraps. Being able to adjust the pistol to your hand is a pretty big thing since a lot of these small carry 9mm pistols can be really uncomfortable to shoot if they don't fit your hand well (if at all).
Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 08:40 PM (z32fn)
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It was a joy spectating the skill and marksmanship of other shooters.
What a weekend!
Posted by: Count de Monet
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Good for you. We expect new range reports here from you in the near future.
What a weekend!
Posted by: Count de Monet
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Good for you. We expect new range reports here from you in the near future.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:40 PM (E4rtv)
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145, that whole discussion gives me a big "Live and Die in LA" vibe ... well up on my Top 10 Car Chases list!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 08:41 PM (VyBeY)
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it's a Starrett"
Found a set of their jewelers screwdrivers at a yard sale. 10 bucks.
I almost felt guilty...
Found a set of their jewelers screwdrivers at a yard sale. 10 bucks.
I almost felt guilty...
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:41 PM (pfXMo)
Posted by: blaster at October 18, 2026 08:43 PM (NlEaG)
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" ... Six for sure beats uncertainty ... "
or 5 in my case; why I carry an Airweight Chief's in a nutshell ...
or 5 in my case; why I carry an Airweight Chief's in a nutshell ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 08:43 PM (VyBeY)
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126 I didn't shoot as much as I had planned at the MoMe (my wrist twitch kicked in again), but I want to thank Helena Handbasket for her patient instruction. I heard three pings, so I didn't waste all the rounds I took.
If the Terrible Times come, I won't be any use as a combatant, but I can load clips for the fighters.
Posted by: Weak Geek
Something else comes to mind as well. You might do better with shooting a long arm first. A nice 22 LR rifle might fit what you need.
Easier for beginning marksmen to learn to shoot long arms than handguns because three points of support are better and easier than two and a longer sight distance on long arms is easier to pick up for many than on handguns. Triggers on longarms can be better too.
If the Terrible Times come, I won't be any use as a combatant, but I can load clips for the fighters.
Posted by: Weak Geek
Something else comes to mind as well. You might do better with shooting a long arm first. A nice 22 LR rifle might fit what you need.
Easier for beginning marksmen to learn to shoot long arms than handguns because three points of support are better and easier than two and a longer sight distance on long arms is easier to pick up for many than on handguns. Triggers on longarms can be better too.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:43 PM (E4rtv)
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Ruger's investment casting company, Pine Tree something or such, made 1911 frames for a number of makers"
And Calloway golf clubs. Had a driver with "Ruger" stamp...
And Calloway golf clubs. Had a driver with "Ruger" stamp...
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:44 PM (pfXMo)
156
Am I the only one who gets watching the Sci-fi movies?
Posted by: Skip
Not sure what you mean by "get," but I usually at least give them a try, often watching all the way through no matter how cheesy.
Looked up "Assignment: Outer Space" on IMDb. Only two of the listed actors are Name enough to have pictures of themselves. IMDb says it's about a space station in the 22nd Century. Nice that, for once, the year is far enough ahead, vs, say, heading to Jupiter in the far future of 2001.
I did review Unknown World!, last week's SF selection, on Saturday's movie thread.
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=421802#c42869126
Posted by: Skip
Not sure what you mean by "get," but I usually at least give them a try, often watching all the way through no matter how cheesy.
Looked up "Assignment: Outer Space" on IMDb. Only two of the listed actors are Name enough to have pictures of themselves. IMDb says it's about a space station in the 22nd Century. Nice that, for once, the year is far enough ahead, vs, say, heading to Jupiter in the far future of 2001.
I did review Unknown World!, last week's SF selection, on Saturday's movie thread.
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=421802#c42869126
Posted by: mindful webworker - danger! danger will wheaton! at October 18, 2026 08:44 PM (Cl/mc)
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Ruger Suspends Production of Several Major Models
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 18, 2026 07:37 PM (/9wBX)
Ruh roh. That can't be good.
I hope this isn't because of the Beretta thing.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 18, 2026 07:37 PM (/9wBX)
Ruh roh. That can't be good.
I hope this isn't because of the Beretta thing.
Posted by: GWB at October 18, 2026 08:44 PM (kU0PQ)
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155 Ruger's investment casting company, Pine Tree something or such, made 1911 frames for a number of makers"
And Calloway golf clubs. Had a driver with "Ruger" stamp...
Posted by: man
Heh. Like shooting, you want your shot straight down the middle.
And Calloway golf clubs. Had a driver with "Ruger" stamp...
Posted by: man
Heh. Like shooting, you want your shot straight down the middle.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:45 PM (E4rtv)
159
We went to SC last week and were hoping to use the Champion Defense 600 yard range
It closed in April. Lawsuit over noise and general anti-gun stuff.
Sad!
It closed in April. Lawsuit over noise and general anti-gun stuff.
Sad!
Posted by: blaster at October 18, 2026 08:45 PM (NlEaG)
160
We went to SC last week and were hoping to use the Champion Defense 600 yard range
It closed in April. Lawsuit over noise and general anti-gun stuff.
Sad!
It closed in April. Lawsuit over noise and general anti-gun stuff.
Sad!
Posted by: blaster at October 18, 2026 08:45 PM (NlEaG)
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:45 PM (pfXMo)
Posted by: Gref at October 18, 2026 08:46 PM (5rh/l)
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95 95 Everyone, there's something about The Horde I want you to understand.
The horde embodies the America you remember.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 18, 2026 07:59 PM (uGZRR)
I would go as far to say that it’s a slice of what the great Ronald Maximus meant when he said, "We proclaimed a dream of an America that would be a Shining City on a Hill”.
The horde embodies the America you remember.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 18, 2026 07:59 PM (uGZRR)
I would go as far to say that it’s a slice of what the great Ronald Maximus meant when he said, "We proclaimed a dream of an America that would be a Shining City on a Hill”.
Posted by: TxAnn at October 18, 2026 08:47 PM (itAg7)
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Ruh roh. That can't be good.
I hope this isn't because of the Beretta thing.
Posted by: GWB
Would not be surprised. MBA stylebook for warding off hostile buyouts is to raise the stock price and Wall Street loves them some cutting jobs and product lines even if it ends up killing or hurting a company long run.
I hope this isn't because of the Beretta thing.
Posted by: GWB
Would not be surprised. MBA stylebook for warding off hostile buyouts is to raise the stock price and Wall Street loves them some cutting jobs and product lines even if it ends up killing or hurting a company long run.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:47 PM (E4rtv)
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Everyone, there's something about The Horde I want you to understand.
The horde embodies the America you remember. Great people getting together for a friendly gathering to enjoy themselves.
A fun atmosphere of camaraderie with like minded conservatives, talking, laughing, renewing old friendships and creating new ones. Lots of great food, drink and conversation in a comfortable venue with extremely gracious and enthusiastic hosts. There's beer, wine and hooch. And snacks. And food. Did I mention food? (Good Lord, they roasted an entire pig!)
And music. And karaoke. And dancing.
And yes, there's guns. But only IF you're so inclined. It's not a gathering of bunker mentality gun nuts. But if you want a place to bring your pistol or rifle and practice and learn from experienced shooters with a strong emphasis on safety, well, that America still exists.
This is the Horde.
This is the Texas MoMe.
This is America.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 18, 2026 07:59 PM (uGZRR)
This. All of this.
The horde embodies the America you remember. Great people getting together for a friendly gathering to enjoy themselves.
A fun atmosphere of camaraderie with like minded conservatives, talking, laughing, renewing old friendships and creating new ones. Lots of great food, drink and conversation in a comfortable venue with extremely gracious and enthusiastic hosts. There's beer, wine and hooch. And snacks. And food. Did I mention food? (Good Lord, they roasted an entire pig!)
And music. And karaoke. And dancing.
And yes, there's guns. But only IF you're so inclined. It's not a gathering of bunker mentality gun nuts. But if you want a place to bring your pistol or rifle and practice and learn from experienced shooters with a strong emphasis on safety, well, that America still exists.
This is the Horde.
This is the Texas MoMe.
This is America.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 18, 2026 07:59 PM (uGZRR)
This. All of this.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 18, 2026 08:48 PM (wVcYX)
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154, so true, whig!
such as it is, I fired my first few hundred rounds from a single-shot .22 at summer camp; probably a Sears or Monty Wards ...
back then I was considered a pretty good shot ... lol ...
such as it is, I fired my first few hundred rounds from a single-shot .22 at summer camp; probably a Sears or Monty Wards ...
back then I was considered a pretty good shot ... lol ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 08:48 PM (VyBeY)
167
Bill Ruger was instrumental in using cheaper investment castings for handgun frames than the forged steel and aluminum at the time from other makers.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:38 PM (E4rtv)
Whig, when Colt reintroduced their revolver lineup, their PR folks really talked up about how their new CNC machines and revamped revolver mechanism designs had removed the need for polishing and hand fitting the 20th century revolvers had required. Could that be one of the reasons for Colt (and possibly S&Ws) resurgence in the revolver market? I understand that these changes are pretty big for Colt. I've read that a Python made in the same old school way as it was in the 1990s would run well into the $3,500 range today because of the additional skilled labor required to polish and hand fit all those small parts inside the revolvers.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:38 PM (E4rtv)
Whig, when Colt reintroduced their revolver lineup, their PR folks really talked up about how their new CNC machines and revamped revolver mechanism designs had removed the need for polishing and hand fitting the 20th century revolvers had required. Could that be one of the reasons for Colt (and possibly S&Ws) resurgence in the revolver market? I understand that these changes are pretty big for Colt. I've read that a Python made in the same old school way as it was in the 1990s would run well into the $3,500 range today because of the additional skilled labor required to polish and hand fit all those small parts inside the revolvers.
Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 08:50 PM (z32fn)
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165, endorsed! Hopefully, next year!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 08:50 PM (VyBeY)
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161 Triggers on longarms can be better too."
"Can"...
1911s laugh.
Posted by: man
Yeah, well I have a craptastic Winchester 190 model that looks sweet but the trigger is absolutely horrible. You have to use a pinch crunch method on it. On the other hand, have an old Marlin 60 (with the extended tube mag making it an assault rifle in NJ I guess holding 18 rounds). Cleaned it up, bought a trigger spring from MCarbo (which are really good folks for a lot of springs and other things to improve triggers for less expensive firearms). Vets too. Shoots great.
"Can"...
1911s laugh.
Posted by: man
Yeah, well I have a craptastic Winchester 190 model that looks sweet but the trigger is absolutely horrible. You have to use a pinch crunch method on it. On the other hand, have an old Marlin 60 (with the extended tube mag making it an assault rifle in NJ I guess holding 18 rounds). Cleaned it up, bought a trigger spring from MCarbo (which are really good folks for a lot of springs and other things to improve triggers for less expensive firearms). Vets too. Shoots great.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:51 PM (E4rtv)
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Thank you Pillage Idiot!
Posted by: Iris at October 18, 2026 08:53 PM (286+n)
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160 We went to SC last week and were hoping to use the Champion Defense 600 yard range
It closed in April. Lawsuit over noise and general anti-gun stuff.
Sad!
Posted by: blaster at October 18, 2026 08:45 PM (NlEaG)
Bad neighbors were likely not home-grown. IMO.
It closed in April. Lawsuit over noise and general anti-gun stuff.
Sad!
Posted by: blaster at October 18, 2026 08:45 PM (NlEaG)
Bad neighbors were likely not home-grown. IMO.
Posted by: Eromero at October 18, 2026 08:53 PM (LHPAg)
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nogooddeed, How are ya? Hope you and yours are well and look forward to seeing you next year.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 08:53 PM (ua/lL)
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Whig, when Colt reintroduced their revolver lineup, their PR folks really talked up about how their new CNC machines and revamped revolver mechanism designs had removed the need for polishing and hand fitting the 20th century revolvers had required. Could that be one of the reasons for Colt (and possibly S&Ws) resurgence in the revolver market? I understand that these changes are pretty big for Colt. I've read that a Python made in the same old school way as it was in the 1990s would run well into the $3,500 range today because of the additional skilled labor required to polish and hand fit all those small parts inside the revolvers.
Posted by: Ed L
Smith and Wesson did the CNC move in the 1990's which is why the 3rd Generation is probably their best steel/aluminum lines in DA/SA semi autos. Colt's old style revolvers simply required artisan finishing of a really complicated lock work design when skilled labor and materials were cheap enough that Colt could make good money on them. Smiths had a easier and cheaper to make design on revolvers which is why Colt steadily lost ground in the 1950's to Smith in the police business for revolvers.
Posted by: Ed L
Smith and Wesson did the CNC move in the 1990's which is why the 3rd Generation is probably their best steel/aluminum lines in DA/SA semi autos. Colt's old style revolvers simply required artisan finishing of a really complicated lock work design when skilled labor and materials were cheap enough that Colt could make good money on them. Smiths had a easier and cheaper to make design on revolvers which is why Colt steadily lost ground in the 1950's to Smith in the police business for revolvers.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:54 PM (E4rtv)
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you want your shot straight down the middle."
I seldom have to deal with the middle of the fairway. Too boring...
I've the Glenfield Model 60 (with the squirrel woodwork).
Fun, but not exactly the pinnacle of the gunmaker's art...
I seldom have to deal with the middle of the fairway. Too boring...
I've the Glenfield Model 60 (with the squirrel woodwork).
Fun, but not exactly the pinnacle of the gunmaker's art...
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 08:55 PM (pfXMo)
175
Not a range report, but a scale report. I'm 3 lbs heavier than when I left for Corsicana. The food was so delicious!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 18, 2026 08:56 PM (wVcYX)
176
Just landed in Boston, so late to the party.
Holy shitballs, was that a fun MoMe!
Many thanks again to Ben Had, Cow Horse Queen, and Rancher Bob for making it happen, and thanks to everyone who made the trek to the place for the thing!
Holy shitballs, was that a fun MoMe!
Many thanks again to Ben Had, Cow Horse Queen, and Rancher Bob for making it happen, and thanks to everyone who made the trek to the place for the thing!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 18, 2026 08:56 PM (7o23p)
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Colt went to a coiled spring redesign in the late sixties but it was pretty much too late. At that time, Colt became pretty much a defense contractor making ARs that sold boutique sidearms.
Bill Ruger (in a good book, Bill Ruger and his firearms) remarked, that he knew the Colt execs in the 50's and 60's and they were golf guys, not gun guys that used their own products.
And it showed.
Bill Ruger (in a good book, Bill Ruger and his firearms) remarked, that he knew the Colt execs in the 50's and 60's and they were golf guys, not gun guys that used their own products.
And it showed.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:56 PM (E4rtv)
178
137 It was a joy spectating the skill and marksmanship of other shooters.
What a weekend!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 18, 2026 08:33 PM (wVcYX)
When I saw Spawn shooting, I had the same feeling I had when I was about 20 and trying to ski for the first time on the bunny slope. These 5 year olds were shooshing by me as I lay in the snow writhing in pain. It’s daunting to see the level of skill in one so young. Of course 50 qualifies as “one so young” in my world.
What a weekend!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 18, 2026 08:33 PM (wVcYX)
When I saw Spawn shooting, I had the same feeling I had when I was about 20 and trying to ski for the first time on the bunny slope. These 5 year olds were shooshing by me as I lay in the snow writhing in pain. It’s daunting to see the level of skill in one so young. Of course 50 qualifies as “one so young” in my world.
Posted by: TxAnn at October 18, 2026 08:58 PM (itAg7)
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Quarter twenty also provided the best sausages and awesome potato chips. I missed the sausages the first night but finally got some at lunch Saturday. Good stuff!!!
Posted by: lin-duh at October 18, 2026 08:59 PM (VCgbV)
180
RMBS. A huge Thank you to you and RSBM Mom for the absolutely delicious gigante bean dish.
The perfect compliment with the pig.
The perfect compliment with the pig.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 08:59 PM (ua/lL)
181
I've the Glenfield Model 60 (with the squirrel woodwork).
Fun, but not exactly the pinnacle of the gunmaker's art...
Posted by: man
A Marlin Model 60 vintage model will generally outshoot a Ruger 10/22 if both are stock. Mine was a special line made for Otasco (Oklahoma Tire and Supply Company) which is why I bought it and yes, has the squirrel pressing too. A a yute, I can remember the old Otasco store on main street where I grew up. Similar to Western Auto.
Last year they made 18 round tube mags too. NJ passed a law restricting to 15 and under if I remember correctly.
Fun, but not exactly the pinnacle of the gunmaker's art...
Posted by: man
A Marlin Model 60 vintage model will generally outshoot a Ruger 10/22 if both are stock. Mine was a special line made for Otasco (Oklahoma Tire and Supply Company) which is why I bought it and yes, has the squirrel pressing too. A a yute, I can remember the old Otasco store on main street where I grew up. Similar to Western Auto.
Last year they made 18 round tube mags too. NJ passed a law restricting to 15 and under if I remember correctly.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:00 PM (E4rtv)
182
I usually watch the sci-fi movies. I've seen "Assignment Outer Space" before. If memory serves one of the stars is Archie Savage who has a very striking look.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 18, 2026 09:01 PM (CHHv1)
183
Colt went to a coiled spring redesign in the late sixties but it was pretty much too late. At that time, Colt became pretty much a defense contractor making ARs that sold boutique sidearms.
Bill Ruger (in a good book, Bill Ruger and his firearms) remarked, that he knew the Colt execs in the 50's and 60's and they were golf guys, not gun guys that used their own products.
And it showed.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:56 PM (E4rtv)
I'd argue that until CZ took over Colt after the last 2015 bankruptcy, Colt executives and senior leadership didn't give a hoot about the firearms business. The name of the company says it all: Colt Industries from the 50s through the 80s, then Colt Defense when the corporate raiders bought Colt out of bankruptcy in the 90s and drained it dry while feeding off of DOD contracts for the M16A2 and M4 through the 2000s.
Bill Ruger (in a good book, Bill Ruger and his firearms) remarked, that he knew the Colt execs in the 50's and 60's and they were golf guys, not gun guys that used their own products.
And it showed.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:56 PM (E4rtv)
I'd argue that until CZ took over Colt after the last 2015 bankruptcy, Colt executives and senior leadership didn't give a hoot about the firearms business. The name of the company says it all: Colt Industries from the 50s through the 80s, then Colt Defense when the corporate raiders bought Colt out of bankruptcy in the 90s and drained it dry while feeding off of DOD contracts for the M16A2 and M4 through the 2000s.
Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 09:02 PM (z32fn)
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179 Quarter twenty also provided the best sausages and awesome potato chips. I missed the sausages the first night but finally got some at lunch Saturday. Good stuff!!!
Posted by: lin-duh at October 18, 2026 08:59 PM (VCgbV)
180 RMBS. A huge Thank you to you and RSBM Mom for the absolutely delicious gigante bean dish.
That sausage would e great for breakfast! And the beans? Halelujah, they were good. When I showed them to Mrs. E she bout near swooned.
The perfect compliment with the pig.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 08:59 PM (ua/lL)
Posted by: lin-duh at October 18, 2026 08:59 PM (VCgbV)
180 RMBS. A huge Thank you to you and RSBM Mom for the absolutely delicious gigante bean dish.
That sausage would e great for breakfast! And the beans? Halelujah, they were good. When I showed them to Mrs. E she bout near swooned.
The perfect compliment with the pig.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 08:59 PM (ua/lL)
Posted by: Eromero at October 18, 2026 09:02 PM (LHPAg)
185
Posted by: TxAnn at October 18, 2026 08:58 PM (itAg7)
I'm sorry I didn't get to meet you during all the festivities. There were others I missed as well. So, next year!
I'm sorry I didn't get to meet you during all the festivities. There were others I missed as well. So, next year!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 18, 2026 09:02 PM (wVcYX)
186
lin-duh, did you read comment #38?
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:03 PM (ua/lL)
187
Thanks TxAnn! A big part of the spawn shooting is because of the morons. They were so patient when she was starting out. She learned to shoot rifles with Jim, weasel, and weasel buddy has helped her with the handguns.
Posted by: lin-duh at October 18, 2026 09:03 PM (VCgbV)
188
Similar to Western Auto"
Where Dad (RIP) bought mine... with Tasco scope...
You know, I've never shot a stock woody 10/22...
Where Dad (RIP) bought mine... with Tasco scope...
You know, I've never shot a stock woody 10/22...
Posted by: man at October 18, 2026 09:04 PM (pfXMo)
189
185 Posted by: TxAnn at October 18, 2026 08:58 PM (itAg7)
I'm sorry I didn't get to meet you during all the festivities. There were others I missed as well. So, next year!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 18, 2026 09:02 PM
Likewise.
I'm sorry I didn't get to meet you during all the festivities. There were others I missed as well. So, next year!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 18, 2026 09:02 PM
Likewise.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 18, 2026 09:04 PM (uGZRR)
190
Count de Monet, How very nice it was to meet you.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:05 PM (ua/lL)
191
Ed L.
From a user standpoint, don't care much about collecting value, Colt made better revolvers and had better metallurgy up to about the late 1950's. Fit and finish were better, single action with the old 1899 lockwork was like a bank vault lockup, and double action, while it stacked, could be comparable to Smith's lockwork action prior to the late 40's. Fit and finish on a regular Colt was superior to Smiths and the dry observation that Colt did not need a pin to retain the barrel because it knew how to torque barrels properly was in fact true. At the high end, Smiths have equal fit and finish and started to pull away from Colt before the Bangor Punta debacle damn near wrecked Smith and Wesson. Ruger took advantage of a declining Colt and a struggling quality issue with Smith to get into the police market with damn fine Security series revolvers.
From a user standpoint, don't care much about collecting value, Colt made better revolvers and had better metallurgy up to about the late 1950's. Fit and finish were better, single action with the old 1899 lockwork was like a bank vault lockup, and double action, while it stacked, could be comparable to Smith's lockwork action prior to the late 40's. Fit and finish on a regular Colt was superior to Smiths and the dry observation that Colt did not need a pin to retain the barrel because it knew how to torque barrels properly was in fact true. At the high end, Smiths have equal fit and finish and started to pull away from Colt before the Bangor Punta debacle damn near wrecked Smith and Wesson. Ruger took advantage of a declining Colt and a struggling quality issue with Smith to get into the police market with damn fine Security series revolvers.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:05 PM (E4rtv)
192
*tosses back a final shot of {Wisconsin Valu-Rite equivalent*} as a toast to:
- TX MoMee and all participating
- safe travel to all
- the Horde generally
- Confusion to our enemies!
& wishing a Good Night to everyone!
seeya inna mornin' !
* it's called Badger Claw, and it's pretty good!
seems to actually be distilled in Iowa, nttawwt
- TX MoMee and all participating
- safe travel to all
- the Horde generally
- Confusion to our enemies!
& wishing a Good Night to everyone!
seeya inna mornin' !
* it's called Badger Claw, and it's pretty good!
seems to actually be distilled in Iowa, nttawwt
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 09:06 PM (VyBeY)
193
I will be keeping an eye out for this "jspicy" person who has slandered me so needlessly.
Posted by: lin-duh at October 18, 2026 09:06 PM (VCgbV)
194
Weasel, thanks for hosting this while on the road. Safe travels to all who are still making their way back home from TX!
Posted by: Ed L at October 18, 2026 09:07 PM (z32fn)
195
You know, I've never shot a stock woody 10/22...
Posted by: man
10/22 is a gorgeous design that became the AR equivalent in 22 LR rifles but like the Mini 14, it required fixes to be more accurate than its far cheaper Marlin 60/795 or the Savage 62-64 22 lrs.
Posted by: man
10/22 is a gorgeous design that became the AR equivalent in 22 LR rifles but like the Mini 14, it required fixes to be more accurate than its far cheaper Marlin 60/795 or the Savage 62-64 22 lrs.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:07 PM (E4rtv)
196
Ben Had / Cow Horse Queen / Rancher Bob, thanks again for hosting this motley assortment of misfit, nitwit, half-wit Morons!
So. Much. Fun. And there's always something to make you weep as it tugs at the heartstrings.
So. Much. Fun. And there's always something to make you weep as it tugs at the heartstrings.
Posted by: Steck at October 18, 2026 09:07 PM (LlRQB)
197
RMBS. A huge Thank you to you and RSBM Mom for the absolutely delicious gigante bean dish.
The perfect compliment with the pig.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 08:59 PM
It was our pleasure making them for y'all!
The perfect compliment with the pig.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 08:59 PM
It was our pleasure making them for y'all!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 18, 2026 09:10 PM (7o23p)
198
a TxMoMe tradition is to open the dance floor to "Angel From Montgomery" and Quarter Twenty was a most gracious dance partner.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:10 PM (ua/lL)
199
My apologies to the shooting Horde for passing out and missing the brass collection! I'm sure one or two of You People will remind me next year. 
Got to meet some new people but I didn't get to talk to all of you as much as I would have liked. Hope to see you again.
Got to meet some new people but I didn't get to talk to all of you as much as I would have liked. Hope to see you again.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 18, 2026 09:11 PM (jb8Ss)
200
bought a trigger spring from MCarbo (which are really good folks for a lot of springs and other things to improve triggers for less expensive firearms).
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:51 PM
+1
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 08:51 PM
+1
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2026 09:12 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: GWB at October 18, 2026 09:12 PM (kU0PQ)
202
Count de Monet, How very nice it was to meet you.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:05 PM (ua/lL)
The pleasure was all mine. You made me feel so welcome right from the get go and throughout the weekend. You looked like you were having a blast with every attendee. Thank you so very much!
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:05 PM (ua/lL)
The pleasure was all mine. You made me feel so welcome right from the get go and throughout the weekend. You looked like you were having a blast with every attendee. Thank you so very much!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 18, 2026 09:12 PM (wVcYX)
203
Steck, Thank you for all you do. You are an angel.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:13 PM (ua/lL)
204
I'd argue that until CZ took over Colt after the last 2015 bankruptcy, Colt executives and senior leadership didn't give a hoot about the firearms business. The name of the company says it all: Colt Industries from the 50s through the 80s, then Colt Defense when the corporate raiders bought Colt out of bankruptcy in the 90s and drained it dry while feeding off of DOD contracts for the M16A2 and M4 through the 2000s.
Posted by: Ed L
====
Yep. I agree. Glad to see their return, especially with this news from Ruger. Even if Ruger intends to restart production at some future date, the market may not be there if and when they try to return. Taurus is improving quality substantially on its revolvers and Colt has returned. And Smith still has a loyal set of customers for its wares.
There may not be a market space for a Ruger return because the revolver market is shrinking with fewer and fewer new shooters even knowing how to shoot them. It is a shame because for learning how to shoot, revolvers because they can fire a variety of bullet weights and charges, are excellent teaching tools. And still the tops if you plan to hunt with a handgun or use one for bear protection.
Posted by: Ed L
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Yep. I agree. Glad to see their return, especially with this news from Ruger. Even if Ruger intends to restart production at some future date, the market may not be there if and when they try to return. Taurus is improving quality substantially on its revolvers and Colt has returned. And Smith still has a loyal set of customers for its wares.
There may not be a market space for a Ruger return because the revolver market is shrinking with fewer and fewer new shooters even knowing how to shoot them. It is a shame because for learning how to shoot, revolvers because they can fire a variety of bullet weights and charges, are excellent teaching tools. And still the tops if you plan to hunt with a handgun or use one for bear protection.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:13 PM (E4rtv)
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198 a TxMoMe tradition is to open the dance floor to "Angel From Montgomery" and Quarter Twenty was a most gracious dance partner.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:10 PM
I was honored to do so.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:10 PM
I was honored to do so.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 18, 2026 09:13 PM (uGZRR)
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Do they hover?
Posted by: GWB
They should but probably won't. Like a Ruger 1911, the question should have been, what is the point for making and selling these.
Posted by: GWB
They should but probably won't. Like a Ruger 1911, the question should have been, what is the point for making and selling these.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:14 PM (E4rtv)
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Ben Had, Cowhorse Queen and Rancher Bob
Congrats, and thank you for putting on / hosting what appears to have been another successful MoMe.
Sorry to have missed it
Congrats, and thank you for putting on / hosting what appears to have been another successful MoMe.
Sorry to have missed it
Posted by: browndog says woof at October 18, 2026 09:18 PM (oCio0)
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The Ruger SFAR made quite an impression on the rifle range last year.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2026 09:18 PM (0sNs1)
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lin-duh, do you remember who won the subscription to the 'No Wobbly Shit' magazine?
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:19 PM (ua/lL)
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browndog, next year, darlin.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:20 PM (ua/lL)
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MCarbo which technically is M*CARBO sells springs and shims to improve your Mosin Nagant trigger quite a bit among other things.
Finns figured out a way to improve the Mosin Nagant trigger as well and I think Smith Sights has continued that by offering a way to upgrade the lousy Russki trigger (and you can revert easily if you need to sell it) to the Finn Standard. Means quite a bit on those Mosin 91/30 rifles.
Finns figured out a way to improve the Mosin Nagant trigger as well and I think Smith Sights has continued that by offering a way to upgrade the lousy Russki trigger (and you can revert easily if you need to sell it) to the Finn Standard. Means quite a bit on those Mosin 91/30 rifles.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:21 PM (E4rtv)
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210 browndog, next year, darlin.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:20 PM (ua/lL)
{{{Ben Had}}}
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:20 PM (ua/lL)
{{{Ben Had}}}
Posted by: browndog says woof at October 18, 2026 09:26 PM (oCio0)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 09:26 PM (VyBeY)
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185 I'm sorry I didn't get to meet you during all the festivities. There were others I missed as well. So, next year!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 18, 2026 09:02 PM (wVcYX)
To be fair, I was only there about 3 hours as my nerves got the better of me and I wanted to get home when it was still light out. It was a lightning round of names and faces so I’m not sure who I met or didn’t meet. So yes, next year!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 18, 2026 09:02 PM (wVcYX)
To be fair, I was only there about 3 hours as my nerves got the better of me and I wanted to get home when it was still light out. It was a lightning round of names and faces so I’m not sure who I met or didn’t meet. So yes, next year!
Posted by: TxAnn at October 18, 2026 09:26 PM (itAg7)
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208 The Ruger SFAR made quite an impression on the rifle range last year.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Yeah, they kinda copied POF's Revolution I think which had marketed a similar smaller AR sized frame for a 308 barrel and receiver which was all proprietary parts.
When Bill Ruger died, innovations pretty much stopped at Ruger and you got the era of copying successful designs from other countries and reliance on customers for Ruger's older classic designs. Ruger's announcement pretty much dumps the older customer base for classic designs and is keeping the derivative designs instead.
MBA executive think rather than executives that are thinking of innovative gun designs and manufacturing techniques like Bill Ruger did.
Pretty sad. Same reason I hope Elon has a long life--the dweebs that succeed such giants are generally forgettable organization types.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Yeah, they kinda copied POF's Revolution I think which had marketed a similar smaller AR sized frame for a 308 barrel and receiver which was all proprietary parts.
When Bill Ruger died, innovations pretty much stopped at Ruger and you got the era of copying successful designs from other countries and reliance on customers for Ruger's older classic designs. Ruger's announcement pretty much dumps the older customer base for classic designs and is keeping the derivative designs instead.
MBA executive think rather than executives that are thinking of innovative gun designs and manufacturing techniques like Bill Ruger did.
Pretty sad. Same reason I hope Elon has a long life--the dweebs that succeed such giants are generally forgettable organization types.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:26 PM (E4rtv)
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213 Finns rock!
G'night everyone!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
Yep. Good night and have a great week.
G'night everyone!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
Yep. Good night and have a great week.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:27 PM (E4rtv)
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lin-duh, do you remember who won the subscription to the 'No Wobbly Shit' magazine?
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:19 PM
Are there any clips introducing and describing this magazine? I'm sure commenters here will be subscribing en bloc.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:19 PM
Are there any clips introducing and describing this magazine? I'm sure commenters here will be subscribing en bloc.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2026 09:28 PM (0sNs1)
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Some people are so stupid:
Them: Please keep your stuff on your property.
Me: You have the wrong number.
Them: I'm such and such and I live in (location) California.
Me. I live in Texas. You have the wrong number.
Them: I was give this number. Is this Mark?
Me: No. You have the wrong number.
I'm waiting to see what genius response I get back.
Them: Please keep your stuff on your property.
Me: You have the wrong number.
Them: I'm such and such and I live in (location) California.
Me. I live in Texas. You have the wrong number.
Them: I was give this number. Is this Mark?
Me: No. You have the wrong number.
I'm waiting to see what genius response I get back.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 18, 2026 09:28 PM (ExV1e)
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the dweebs that succeed such giants are generally forgettable organization types.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:26 PM
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:26 PM
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Tim Cook at October 18, 2026 09:30 PM (0sNs1)
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TxAnn
I’m Sad I wasn’t there to meet you. I would have taken you by the hand and walked you out to the pond and helped you decompress.
It is a lovely place with lovely people. Amd you’re safe and valued. Jeepers, I sound like a progtarded weirdo.
Sorry.
I’m Sad I wasn’t there to meet you. I would have taken you by the hand and walked you out to the pond and helped you decompress.
It is a lovely place with lovely people. Amd you’re safe and valued. Jeepers, I sound like a progtarded weirdo.
Sorry.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 18, 2026 09:30 PM (yEz+x)
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* hands I used to have a different nic a Balvenie* It was so nice to have a drink with you.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:31 PM (ua/lL)
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lin-duh, do you remember who won the subscription to the 'No Wobbly Shit' magazine?
Posted by: Ben Had
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I don't. Sorry.
Posted by: Ben Had
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I don't. Sorry.
Posted by: lin-duh at October 18, 2026 09:31 PM (VCgbV)
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Disco Doof did make another fabulous MoMe appearance on Saturday night.
Yet again, Doof was taking a nap and missed the festivities.
(That guy has the worst luck!)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:13 PM (HlyYF)
I always miss his appearances. I'm starting to suspect something suspicious.
Yet again, Doof was taking a nap and missed the festivities.
(That guy has the worst luck!)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 18, 2026 08:13 PM (HlyYF)
I always miss his appearances. I'm starting to suspect something suspicious.
Posted by: Doof at October 18, 2026 09:32 PM (QMAsf)
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Me: No. You have the wrong number.
I'm waiting to see what genius response I get back.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 18, 2026 09:28 PM
My usual response to errant text messages is:
"Well, that depends. What are you wearing?"
I'm waiting to see what genius response I get back.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 18, 2026 09:28 PM
My usual response to errant text messages is:
"Well, that depends. What are you wearing?"
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 18, 2026 09:32 PM (uGZRR)
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 09:32 PM (VqA1S)
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thx! you too!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 18, 2026 09:33 PM (VyBeY)
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This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Tim Cook
Cook was no Jobs but he kept improving Job's products. Who comes next is likely to be a drone MBA type concerned with maximizing revenue and cutting expenses which means product, customer service, etc. will be enshittified according to State Street, Blackrock, and Fidelity standards.
Posted by: Tim Cook
Cook was no Jobs but he kept improving Job's products. Who comes next is likely to be a drone MBA type concerned with maximizing revenue and cutting expenses which means product, customer service, etc. will be enshittified according to State Street, Blackrock, and Fidelity standards.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:34 PM (E4rtv)
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Are there any clips introducing and describing this magazine? I'm sure commenters here will be subscribing en bloc.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Well played.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Well played.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:35 PM (E4rtv)
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* hands I used to have a different nic a Balvenie* It was so nice to have a drink with you.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:31 PM (ua/lL)
Balvenie is always welcome.
Thanks for another excellent get-together.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:31 PM (ua/lL)
Balvenie is always welcome.
Thanks for another excellent get-together.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 18, 2026 09:37 PM (ExV1e)
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I am so glad y'all had a great time at the MoMe. I am planning on getting there (and to the NoVaMoMe) this coming year. I plan on driving, and will need to coordinate with folks for meeting up and hitching rides and convoying.
Y'all have a good night.
And, thanks, again, Weasel.
Y'all have a good night.
And, thanks, again, Weasel.
Posted by: GWB at October 18, 2026 09:38 PM (kU0PQ)
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I'm waiting to see what genius response I get back.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 18, 2026 09:28 PM
Them: Oh. I entered the wrong number. Sorry.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 18, 2026 09:28 PM
Them: Oh. I entered the wrong number. Sorry.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 18, 2026 09:39 PM (ExV1e)
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I've been a loyal Ruger customer since 4-ever.
I am distressed with the discontinuation news.
Any talk re relocation from NH?
I am distressed with the discontinuation news.
Any talk re relocation from NH?
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 09:39 PM (VqA1S)
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Yo, RMBS!
I have heard no 1000 yard talk. Not even humble brags.
What gives?
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 09:32 PM
1,000 yards might have had a hit. Can't confirm. Beat the hell out of the 700, though.
I have heard no 1000 yard talk. Not even humble brags.
What gives?
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 09:32 PM
1,000 yards might have had a hit. Can't confirm. Beat the hell out of the 700, though.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 18, 2026 09:44 PM (7o23p)
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Since we are nearing the end of the thread. Some more boring Lee Enfield stuff. The No. 4 Mk 2 and the retrofitted No. 4 Mk 1/2 or 1/3, are supposedly a bit more accurate than the bog standard No. 4 Mk 1. The trigger being hung from the receiver rather than a relatively flimsy trigger guard is part of it, and the receiver stock draws area of teh No. 4 Mk 2 and retrofits geometry is different. The No. 4 Mk 2 and retrofitted Mk 1/2 and Mk 1/3 do not use the same stock forend that the No. 4 Mk 1 does and the draws (these are recoil absorbing areas on the relatively flimsy Lee Enfield forend that are critical for the receiver to not to be wobbly shit. These draws exist on all Lee Enfields and often a reason why they can shoot erratically. Wood can dry out or become oil soaked and these small areas develop gaps that the recoil on the receiver can cause to accuracy to decline as the receiver is no longer properly held by the forend.
Austrialians used to use copper shims on their No. 1 rifles nailed these into place to protect them from recoil and from damage.
The other method on a damage Lee Enfield forend is to glue and splice in a new draw area--usually best for both sides
Austrialians used to use copper shims on their No. 1 rifles nailed these into place to protect them from recoil and from damage.
The other method on a damage Lee Enfield forend is to glue and splice in a new draw area--usually best for both sides
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:45 PM (E4rtv)
235
lin-duh, do you remember who won the subscription to the 'No Wobbly Shit' magazine?
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:19 PM (ua/lL)
It was "Wobbly Shit Monthly" but I don't recall who won it.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:19 PM (ua/lL)
It was "Wobbly Shit Monthly" but I don't recall who won it.
Posted by: Doof at October 18, 2026 09:45 PM (QMAsf)
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232 I've been a loyal Ruger customer since 4-ever.
I am distressed with the discontinuation news.
Any talk re relocation from NH?
Posted by: RI Red
None, I think it is more related to driving off Beretta but I think the end of revolver production is going to have an immediate hit on some assembly line employment. Dunno how these are allocated by factory site. AZ used to do some of the revolver stuff and I think the original hq in Southport and factory has long been shut down.
Ruger is now headquartered in NC where its factory is that handles a lot of the Marlin level actions among other lines.
I am distressed with the discontinuation news.
Any talk re relocation from NH?
Posted by: RI Red
None, I think it is more related to driving off Beretta but I think the end of revolver production is going to have an immediate hit on some assembly line employment. Dunno how these are allocated by factory site. AZ used to do some of the revolver stuff and I think the original hq in Southport and factory has long been shut down.
Ruger is now headquartered in NC where its factory is that handles a lot of the Marlin level actions among other lines.
Posted by: whig at October 18, 2026 09:47 PM (E4rtv)
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It was "Wobbly Shit Monthly" but I don't recall who won it.
Posted by: Doof at October 18, 2026 09:45 PM
I wanna say Sponge or AOP, but that's just a guess.
Posted by: Doof at October 18, 2026 09:45 PM
I wanna say Sponge or AOP, but that's just a guess.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 18, 2026 09:48 PM (uGZRR)
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Doof , thank you for the correction. I was laughing so hard I missed it.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:49 PM (ua/lL)
239
Sponge won the ' right to violate the 100 comment rule on the Art Thread'
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:51 PM (ua/lL)
240
Whig, what would Beretta ownership be like? Just loss of a true American company?
Posted by: RI Red at October 18, 2026 09:51 PM (VqA1S)
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Sponge won the ' right to violate the 100 comment rule on the Art Thread'
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:51 PM (ua/lL)
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That can't possibly lead to anything good...
Posted by: Ben Had at October 18, 2026 09:51 PM (ua/lL)
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That can't possibly lead to anything good...
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