UK Prime Cuck Andy Burnham: Iran's Terrorist Army the IRGC Was "Almost Certainly" Behind the Seven Shirtless Men Casing the Air Force Base

Tell me something I didn't already know, Cuck.

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🚨 IT'S OFFICIAL: The attempted terrorist attack on RAF Fairford base in the UK -- used by AMERICAN TROOPS and jets -- was almost certainly directed by IRAN and the IRGC, per UK PM Burnham
AND THERE IT IS.
Yet the suspects are RELEASED by UK police. Why are they not IN CUFFS right now?!
President Trump said immediately after the first arrests that the US was watching the potential plot
Clearly the US-UK knew about it before...yet the UK released the suspects
Either something is being hidden from the public or those suspects need to be re-arrested IMMEDIATELY!
The barbarians are inside the gates. The UK needs to wake up.

Video below the fold.

Duane Patterson runs down Iran's collapsing economy.

As mentioned here earlier, there are 19 stranded Iranian shadow fleet tankers off the coast of Sri Lanka. They cannot return to Iran because they'll get blowed up. So they're just sitting idle -- and running out of food, water, and fuel.

US pressured Sri Lanka to not permit any refueling or refreshing.

Sri Lanka now says it will not aid the stranded shadow tankers:

️Sri Lankan government:

We have no plan to help 19 Iranian ships anchored in international waters near the country and facing shortages of water, food and fuel https://t.co/CMqinVsScP

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) October 9, 2026

Iran still gets some oil out in trucks through land highways.

Scott Bessent is pressuring Turkey and Pakistan to shut down Iran's last remaining routes for delivering oil:

The Iran Watcher
@TheIranWatcher
Trump is working with Turkey and Pakistan to complete the land blockade of the Islamic Republic by shutting its last major overland trade routes.
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent says the United States is targeting the regime's overland trade routes while pursuing the seizure of roughly $1 billion in Iranian cryptocurrency assets.
The pressure is closing in from every direction:
1️⃣ Before the war, more than 80% of Iran's trade moved by sea. The American blockade forced the regime to depend on slower and far less capable land corridors.
2️⃣ Pakistan became the eastern escape route, opening six transit corridors connecting Karachi, Port Qasim and Gwadar to Iranian border crossings. These routes helped move stranded cargo around the maritime blockade.
3️⃣ Turkey remains the regime's main western gateway toward Europe and an important source of manufactured goods. Iranian trucks are already facing severe congestion, long delays and spoiled cargo at the border.
4️⃣ Neither corridor can replace maritime trade. Ships carry thousands of containers at once, while roads and railways remain constrained by weak infrastructure, border queues and limited capacity.
5️⃣ The United States holds far greater economic leverage. Turkey conducts roughly $35--45 billion in annual trade with the United States, compared with around $5--8 billion with Iran. The United States is also Pakistan's largest export market, while formal Pakistan--Iran trade remains only a few billion dollars.
6️⃣ The historical reversal is striking. Iran, Pakistan and Turkey were once partners in CENTO and later built regional economic institutions together. They are now being drawn into the campaign isolating the Islamic Republic.
Closing these corridors would squeeze the regime from both sides. Oil revenue is already being strangled at sea, while machinery, industrial parts, medicine and consumer goods increasingly depend on congested land crossings.
The cryptocurrency seizure adds another layer. The regime is running out of ways to move goods or conceal money without encountering American pressure.
Pakistan and Turkey may preserve limited trade for their own interests, but neither has an economic reason to sacrifice its far more valuable access to the United States and the global financial system to rescue the Islamic Republic.
The regime's remaining escape routes are no longer lifelines. They are pressure points the United States is now moving to close.

Back to the UK Prime Cuck:

Burnham is negotiating to undo Brexit and rejoin the EU. He previously claimed he wouldn't do this.

Whoops, I did that thing in your mouth I said I wouldn't do.

Don't worry, though -- he says that rejoining the EU " " " might " " " help him stop the unchecked mass migration he's currently allowing for no reason.

As you know, the EU is really strong on border enforcement.

Oh wait, no it's not -- it seeks to dissolve all borders.

He replied: "The loss of immigration control has come with the inability now to access data across the European Union... we are in a weaker position when it comes to controlling immigration."

So he means he wants to rejoin the EU to check their fingerprint files to exclude -- maybe -- known terrorists, while otherwise letting everyone else in.

🚨 BREAKING: Andy Burnham says the RAF Fairford plot was "almost certainly" directed by Iran's IRGC https://t.co/jaRrB9x1W2
— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) October 12, 2026

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:16 PM

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1 VERY BLADE-Y

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 13, 2026 02:16 PM (iFTx/)

2 "And we lost track of the seven, and if they do show up we have one hundred thousand pound cheques for each of them for troubling them."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 02:16 PM (R0rrx)

3 "those suspects need to be re-arrested IMMEDIATELY!"

Good luck with that.

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2026 02:18 PM (Jr5Lq)

4 Don't worry, though -- he says that rejoining the EU " " " might " " " help him stop the unchecked mass migration he's currently allowing for no reason.

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The only way they don't get wiped out in 2029 is if they bring in enough voters to undo it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 02:18 PM (R0rrx)

5 The UK is not our friend, and the so called "special relationship" is not.

Posted by: runner at October 13, 2026 02:20 PM (AKptf)

6 UK is a better ally of Iran than they are to US. It's time to start dotting a couple of the Five Eyes.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 13, 2026 02:20 PM (bX16E)

7 "Andy Burnham says the RAF Fairford plot was "almost certainly" directed by Iran's IRGC"

I'm not sure how newsworthy that is, given I've always thought that 95% of terror and terror-adjacent attacks and threats in recent years have their origin and/or funding in Iran.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 13, 2026 02:21 PM (iFTx/)

8 And the "students" are back rioting in France.

They'd be doing the same thing here had the Orange Menace lost.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 13, 2026 02:21 PM (viF8m)

9 Andy will issue a stern lecture and an intimidating frown - - - aw who am I kidding - he’ll roll over on his back, expose his belly, and piss himself.

Posted by: tubal at October 13, 2026 02:22 PM (Gqar8)

10 RISE UP people of the UK and Europe.

Time is short and it may be too late, but go down fighting for your culture!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at October 13, 2026 02:22 PM (hzuYO)

11 That Burnham guy sips penis by choice, obviously. Do better UK, do better...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at October 13, 2026 02:23 PM (XMwZJ)

12 Special relationship all done. None of these feckless assholes are worth getting our troops killed.

80 years of babysitting and this what we get.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 13, 2026 02:24 PM (seCv0)

13
The Shirtless Seven. Soon to be a Netflix series.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 13, 2026 02:24 PM (eRlcH)

14 Fwance has had 'no-go' zones in Paris and other big cities for decades. In what will surely flabber you gaster, these 'no-go' zones were almost exclusively muzzie in demography. Decades of this crap and they still haven't figured out what the problem is. . . . .
The Fwench are ignoranuses; they are both stupid and assholes.

Posted by: A real heel at October 13, 2026 02:25 PM (JNTt1)

15 Behind Burnham in that clip is Milliband, a slimy leftist who just about singlehandedly wrecked the Brits energy sector

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 13, 2026 02:25 PM (V2IGM)

16 Go down ? shirtless ? yeah, that's the ticket.

Posted by: fish lips at October 13, 2026 02:25 PM (ehY6c)

17 We need a full movie metal version of the further adventures of the Lollipop Guild.

https://tinyurl.com/28ep5f2f

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 13, 2026 02:24 PM (y9nCu)

Versus Oompa Loompas.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 13, 2026 02:26 PM (TCvR+)

18 I'm not sure how newsworthy that is, given I've always thought that 95% of terror and terror-adjacent attacks and threats in recent years have their origin and/or funding in Iran.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 13, 2026 02:21 PM (iFTx/)

It also raises the question to WHY THE SUSPECTS ARRESTED OUTSIDE THE AIRBASE WERE RELEASED ON MINIMAL BAIL the next day.

That sort of action is what the police do when they capture, say, an SAS training group doing some live world lurking

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 02:26 PM (rbvCR)

19 80 years of babysitting and this what we get.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 13, 2026 02:24 PM (seCv0)

It's not just the babysitting.

It's the free defense umbrella, provided by the US of A that allowed Europe in general and the UK in particular to spend their asses off on social programs.

You'll find you have a shitton more money when you don't have to pay for a functional military.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 13, 2026 02:26 PM (gLYp7)

20 Its sad. Really sad. I don't even want to kick their ass anymore. It would do no good to them, and provide me with no sense of relief. Pity the dying.

Posted by: Its too late for them at October 13, 2026 02:27 PM (anL5R)

21 Shakespeare foretold the stupidity of the current PM:

Burnham would become a dunce, insane.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2026 02:27 PM (77rzZ)

22 It also raises the question to WHY THE SUSPECTS ARRESTED OUTSIDE THE AIRBASE WERE RELEASED ON MINIMAL BAIL the next day.

That sort of action is what the police do when they capture, say, an SAS training group doing some live world lurking

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 02:26 PM (rbvCR)

Nothing is happening that the British government does not WANT to be happening.

Once you adjust your perspective, everything looks clear.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 13, 2026 02:27 PM (gLYp7)

23 What the hell is going on in the UK?

They put those men out on police bail lickety-split and had the state media telling everyone there were no bombs and they were likely stealing gasoline.

Now it's an Iran based terror plot? And they're still out on police bail with no charges?

Posted by: bonhomme at October 13, 2026 02:28 PM (mkw2N)

24 It also raises the question to WHY THE SUSPECTS ARRESTED OUTSIDE THE AIRBASE WERE RELEASED ON MINIMAL BAIL the next day.

That sort of action is what the police do when they capture, say, an SAS training group doing some live world lurking

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 02:26 PM (rbvCR)

Unless it intended as some sort of meatsack gun walking operation to follow them up the chain, it boggles the mind.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 13, 2026 02:28 PM (TCvR+)

25 22 It also raises the question to WHY THE SUSPECTS ARRESTED OUTSIDE THE AIRBASE WERE RELEASED ON MINIMAL BAIL the next day.

That sort of action is what the police do when they capture, say, an SAS training group doing some live world lurking

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 02:26 PM (rbvCR)

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I don't have questions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 02:28 PM (R0rrx)

26 You'll find you have a shitton more money when you don't have to pay for a functional military.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 13, 2026 02:26 PM (gLYp7)

I would rather they would have acted like most welfare queens and just bought a lowered Cadillac Escalade with gold plated spinner hubs.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 02:28 PM (rbvCR)

27 Fwance has had 'no-go' zones in Paris and other big cities for decades. In what will surely flabber you gaster, these 'no-go' zones were almost exclusively muzzie in demography. Decades of this crap and they still haven't figured out what the problem is. . . . .
The Fwench are ignoranuses; they are both stupid and assholes.

A lot of the French have figured it out perfectly fine. Macron chooses not to. Or he gets punched out by his wife every time he does, one of the two.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2026 02:28 PM (2ocoG)

28
o...........k...........

Burnham can't "access data" from the EU and therefore has to admit 1000s of scruffy third-worlders a day.

I don't think there's a Venn diagram for this, can you provide one of those things with "f" and "x"?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 13, 2026 02:29 PM (mmrXZ)

29 The socialists in the UK wanted sheep and the populace obliged.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 13, 2026 02:30 PM (seCv0)

30 Unless it intended as some sort of meatsack gun walking operation to follow them up the chain, it boggles the mind.

They got the finest tactical advise from Eric Holder. After all, Fast & Furious was perfect, no notes.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2026 02:30 PM (2ocoG)

31 "Fwance has had 'no-go' zones in Paris and other big cities for decades. In what will surely flabber you gaster, these 'no-go' zones were almost exclusively muzzie in demography."

'Banlieues.'

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2026 02:30 PM (Jr5Lq)

32
RISE UP people of the UK and Europe.

Time is short and it may be too late, but go down fighting for your culture!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at October 13, 2026 02:22 PM (hzuYO)

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Yes, but first we must go on vacation.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 13, 2026 02:30 PM (eRlcH)

33
Burnham would become a dunce, insane.
Posted by: Bulg

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Suggestion: make that "dunce, inane."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 13, 2026 02:30 PM (mmrXZ)

34 Before slamming the UK and the rest of the EU for their idiotic policies that have allowed millions of muslims and other 3rd world trash to invade their countries remember we were on the exact same path 2 years ago.

This isn't all happening by chance. This was the plan the globalists started adopting years ago to have a world without borders run by bureaucrats who hate people like us. We have a shitload of them right here too.

We didn't end up with a shitload of Somali pirates robbing us blind in broad daylight while being protected by globalist by chance. It was a plan.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 13, 2026 02:31 PM (viF8m)

35 Listening to an interview on Varney with a Brit conservative. He was explaining the abject ridiculousness of the British welfare state. 1in 4 British individuals (he didn't specify citizens) is eligible for disability, as the disability rules are so generous that it's unnecessary to work. That the British social welfare spending is five times what the USA is and is approaching insolvency. It was amazing to listen to the stats, I don't remember them all.

Posted by: jen the original at October 13, 2026 02:31 PM (EiUt/)

36 The socialists in the UK wanted sheep and the populace obliged.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

"Actually, we prefer goats."
-- Mohammed M. Mohammed, MP

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2026 02:31 PM (77rzZ)

37
That Burnham guy sips penis by choice, obviously. Do better UK, do better...
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at October 13, 2026 02:23 PM (XMwZJ)

Sips? How dainty.

More like "guzzles greedily".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 13, 2026 02:31 PM (y9nCu)

38 Suggestion: make that "dunce, inane."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

You're right. That mirrors the original line better.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2026 02:32 PM (77rzZ)

39 I would rather they would have acted like most welfare queens and just bought a lowered Cadillac Escalade with gold plated spinner hubs.

I always enjoy the video clips where someone shows up at a restaurant for a date and the chick (usually but not always black) has brought her sister, her aunt, 4 friends, and a yappy dog and expects the guy to pay for all of their food.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2026 02:33 PM (2ocoG)

40 We didn't end up with a shitload of Somali pirates robbing us blind in broad daylight while being protected by globalist by chance. It was a plan.
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By Jove, Mortimer, this guy thinks it was some nefarious plan.

Well Randolph, I suppose I owe you a dollar. You were right, we could destroy Europe's entire socioeconomic and cultural identify by lowering immigration standards.

Posted by: It was a bet, just a dollar bet at October 13, 2026 02:34 PM (anL5R)

41 Nothing is happening that the British government does not WANT to be happening.

Once you adjust your perspective, everything looks clear.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 13, 2026 02:27 PM (gLYp7)

The greatest weapon the Brits had from the Napoleonic War to WWII was the air of the invincible spy service. It supposedly knew everything and had greater penetration than Moriarty's web of spies.
They didn't, they had great contacts and contractors who took their money to do their own thing, and lots of Brits tied into the local economies who were willing to bribe, but they were never omnipotent. They were willing to trim their sails and direction when they got to a problem they couldn't solve, or a gambit that blew up in their faces.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 02:34 PM (rbvCR)

42 Yes, but first we must go on vacation.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Belize for 6 weeks sounds lovely!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 13, 2026 02:34 PM (seCv0)

43
A couple of theories were kicked around about that event.

1 - Thwarted fuel theft
2 - Inadvertent interruption of a sting
3 - Thwarted dry run of an Iranian terror attempt
4 - Inadvertent interruption of a UK training op

Have there been any others, specifically any that would justify releasing those guys? Or were the cops' hands tied because they didn't have whatever they need in the UK to detain suspects?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 13, 2026 02:35 PM (mmrXZ)

44 Actually, we prefer goats

Those little beards are so cute

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 13, 2026 02:35 PM (Hy48P)

45 France is bankrupt, and Germany is well on their way. The unelected bureaucrats of the EU want Britain to rejoin without a vote to have access to funding to prevent the entire EU from collapse. Every other EU member is a net drain.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 13, 2026 02:35 PM (IgqWM)

46 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 13, 2026 02:31 PM (y9nCu)

Maybe but he's married to a woman and has several kids. At this point in history I don't think men have to pass as straight to get further in politics. They just mostly have to be corrupt, wimpy sell outs. .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 13, 2026 02:36 PM (JrHfD)

47
You're right. That mirrors the original line better.
Posted by: Bulg

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Pretty clever, though, the whole thing.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 13, 2026 02:36 PM (mmrXZ)

48 Actually, we prefer goats

Those little beards are so cute

Fun fact: the Koran explicitly says men should grow facial hair so that other men know not to have sex with them.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2026 02:36 PM (2ocoG)

49 Unless it intended as some sort of meatsack gun walking operation to follow them up the chain, it boggles the mind.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 13, 2026 02:28 PM (TCvR+)

It could have also been a false-flag that Trump could not have ignored.
Trump would have either had to go all-in, or pull all assets out of the UK, and that fork would be a win for Burnham either way

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 02:36 PM (rbvCR)

50 Maybe the EU needs a Civil War.

Posted by: tubal at October 13, 2026 02:36 PM (Gqar8)

51 UK airbase jihadis had 'I love you long time,
abdul' tattooed on the privates, THEN released.

Posted by: Eromero at October 13, 2026 02:36 PM (LHPAg)

52 Beyond stupidity, the only reason that I could see to release the muzzies in Britain on bail is to conduct surveillance on them. Stupidity is still the main answer however

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 13, 2026 02:37 PM (V2IGM)

53 6 tankers were struck by "unknown projectiles" in Hormuz on Sunday the 11th.

It was the highest number of vessels hit since the conflict began.

I still do not understand how we have a navy that we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on, yet we cannot secure a stretch of water like the strait against a bunch of 7th century death cultists.

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 13, 2026 02:37 PM (WYStd)

54 Pretty clever, though, the whole thing.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Thanks. Macbeth is my favorite Shakespeare play.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2026 02:38 PM (77rzZ)

55 Burnham is married to an American, who looks like she pegs him quite frequently

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 13, 2026 02:39 PM (V2IGM)

56 Oh, and by the way, VP was in our neighborhood today.

Posted by: Eromero at October 13, 2026 02:39 PM (LHPAg)

57 Maybe the EU needs a Civil War.

I saw on X that in order to humiliate the US, the EU has developed their own homegrown Microsoft Teams clone.

Leaving aside that everyone hates actual Teams and they should've copied Zoom, apparently the EU software is so bad everyone who tried it prefers Teams.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2026 02:39 PM (2ocoG)

58 Debt-to-GDP ratios, and yields of 10Y bonds:

USA: 127%, 5.23%
France: 120%, 4.92%
Germany: 70%, 3.49%

Posted by: gp at October 13, 2026 02:39 PM (Jr5Lq)

59 53 6 tankers were struck by "unknown projectiles" in Hormuz on Sunday the 11th.

It was the highest number of vessels hit since the conflict began.

I still do not understand how we have a navy that we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on, yet we cannot secure a stretch of water like the strait against a bunch of 7th century death cultists.

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 13, 2026 02:37 PM (WYStd)

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One drone with a grenade tapped to the underside hits a vessel, leaves a black mark that will wash away in the next rain, and it counts as hit.

That's all of the hits in the strait over the past 4-5 months.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 02:39 PM (R0rrx)

60 The brits will do nothing as they are bought and paid for by muslim cash. Like a good catamite, all they can hope for is their muslim owners have a small penis to prevent a prolapsed anus.

Posted by: Prolapsed Paul, Bottom Boy at October 13, 2026 02:39 PM (NkqBW)

61 tankers were struck by "unknown projectiles" in Hormuz on Sunday the 11th.

It was the highest number of vessels hit since the conflict began.

I still do not understand how we have a navy that we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on, yet we cannot secure a stretch of water like the strait against a bunch of 7th century death cultists.
==
We currently don't have anything in the inventory that can track fossilized camel turds, flung by a Trebuchet.

Posted by: Dept of War at October 13, 2026 02:40 PM (anL5R)

62 57 Maybe the EU needs a Civil War.

I saw on X that in order to humiliate the US, the EU has developed their own homegrown Microsoft Teams clone.

Leaving aside that everyone hates actual Teams and they should've copied Zoom, apparently the EU software is so bad everyone who tried it prefers Teams.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2026 02:39 PM (2ocoG)

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"We'll prove our superiority over the US by imitating their software, not creating our own."

*whispers into speaker's ear*

"Oh, and it'll suck more."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 02:40 PM (R0rrx)

63 Have there been any others, specifically any that would justify releasing those guys? Or were the cops' hands tied because they didn't have whatever they need in the UK to detain suspects?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 13, 2026 02:35 PM (mmrXZ)

I think on a terror charge the police can hold them for four weeks without any formal hearing.

So, either they didn't want them, or they were some sort of training group that couldn't stay hidden.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 02:40 PM (rbvCR)

64 Debt-to-GDP ratios, and yields of 10Y bonds:

USA: 127%, 5.23%
France: 120%, 4.92%
Germany: 70%, 3.49%
Posted by: gp

Only one of these countries can print their own money.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 13, 2026 02:41 PM (6+yj2)

65

OT -
Of course:

Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_
·
1h
NEW: Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) is fundraising off the federal raid of her D.C. home yesterday. Her political operation sent out this email.

"We're humbly asking: Chip in $10 or any amount you can afford today to support Ilhan Omar. We have to be ready for anything that comes our way, and every dollar we can raise goes a long way. Thank you."

Posted by: beckster at October 13, 2026 02:41 PM (kX27y)

66 One drone with a grenade tapped to the underside hits a vessel, leaves a black mark that will wash away in the next rain, and it counts as hit.

That's all of the hits in the strait over the past 4-5 months.

Which explains all of the media's "50 SHIPS WERE HIT! (8 paragraphs) No damage was done and no oil spilled" reports.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2026 02:41 PM (2ocoG)

67 66 Which explains all of the media's "50 SHIPS WERE HIT! (8 paragraphs) No damage was done and no oil spilled" reports.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2026 02:41 PM (2ocoG)

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"Also, our source was an IRGC spokesman and no one has been able to confirm the hits or even which vessels were supposedly hit. Traffic continues at normal pace."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 02:42 PM (R0rrx)

68 That's all of the hits in the strait over the past 4-5 months.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 02:39 PM (R0rrx)

At least one of the ships struck on Sunday required that the crew be evacuated.

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 13, 2026 02:42 PM (WYStd)

69 "We'll prove our superiority over the US by imitating their software, not creating our own."

*whispers into speaker's ear*

"Oh, and it'll suck more."

Hey, it worked for Airbus.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2026 02:42 PM (2ocoG)

70 O/T: Has anyone seen the Talasqueek-Hole ad where the images bounce all over the page? To me that just screams 'unstable' instead of edgy or eye-catching.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at October 13, 2026 02:42 PM (JNTt1)

71 tankers were struck by "unknown projectiles" in Hormuz on Sunday the 11th.

It was the highest number of vessels hit since the conflict began.

I still do not understand how we have a navy that we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on, yet we cannot secure a stretch of water like the strait against a bunch of 7th century death cultists.
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 13, 2026 02:37 PM (WYStd)
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"Unknown projectiles" could mean Talacreepo's anal semen loads splashing on the sides of 800 million pound cargo ships.

I think Iran is basically just lobbing July 4th fireworks at ships the size of floating cities, and calling it a "hit."

It's total bullshit.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 13, 2026 02:43 PM (iFTx/)

72
I saw on X that in order to humiliate the US, the EU has developed their own homegrown Microsoft Teams clone.

___________

The EU is so cute when they try to imitate US technology like spacecraft and software. Like one of those Mattel kits. The European Space Agency is getting its lunch eaten by one guy. Instead of Microsoft, they get Minitel. And they're so proud of them!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 13, 2026 02:43 PM (eRlcH)

73 Apologies if I am the 5342 person to ask, but what is going on with the site and Brave today? I can’t connect to it at all.

Posted by: Piper at October 13, 2026 02:44 PM (hftzA)

74 up to WWI the Navy ships would deploy "anti-torpedo" netting when they were in port to deter torpedoes.
I wonder if deploying a giant chain-link fence, like the stuff they use on the faces of highway cuts to keep the odd rock from rolling onto the highway would work for drones. Keep it out a couple of feet and it should stop anything but a shaped charge.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 02:45 PM (rbvCR)

75 Also - endearing myself even less I'm sure,

I actually like MS Teams. A lot of people who don't like it, don't seem to know how to really use it.

For example, I've stopped going to Teams meetings where I'm not presenting or expected to actively participate... I'll just get the AI generated recaps and notes. Taking an hour of my time sitting through a stupid meeting by IT to go over a new data product access request process and condensing it into something that takes me about a minute and a half to read is just awesome. The feature is even more useful when you've been on vacation and missed a week or more of meetings.

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 13, 2026 02:45 PM (WYStd)

76 Posted by: beckster at October 13, 2026

Wow. That's really bold faced of her. Doesn't she have enough to pay a lawyer from all the illicit things she's involved with?

And the Democrat dopes will donate .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 13, 2026 02:45 PM (JrHfD)

77 My Two Spirit name is Told Ya.

>>@EricLDaugh

>>🚨 BREAKING: DC US Attorney Jeanine Pirro announces ANOTHER investigation has been opened related to Somali Rep. Ilhan Omar's sketchy financial records — IN ADDITION to the HSI-spearheaded case and raid

https://tinyurl.com/ypzxfx5y

Posted by: JackStraw at October 13, 2026 02:46 PM (viF8m)

78
Apologies if I am the 5342 person to ask, but what is going on with the site and Brave today? I can’t connect to it at all.
Posted by: Piper at October 13, 2026 02:44 PM (hftzA)

__________

It must be you. Or maybe Saijo did something. He seems the type.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 13, 2026 02:46 PM (eRlcH)

79 Apologies if I am the 5342 person to ask, but what is going on with the site and Brave today? I can’t connect to it at all.
Posted by: Piper at October 13, 2026 02:44 PM (hftzA)
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Site is cowardly today

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 13, 2026 02:46 PM (iFTx/)

80 Instead of Microsoft, they get Minitel. And they're so proud of them!

French Minitel in the late 80s was actually kind of cool and innovative. Lots of US nerds were jealous, myself included. But like a lot of things in the late 80s it was quickly overtaken by the brute force power of 386 and 486 PCs.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2026 02:46 PM (2ocoG)

81 Ships carry thousands of containers at once, while [Iran's] roads and railways remain constrained by weak infrastructure, border queues and limited capacity.

Those constrained land routes must cross multiple bridges that would take forever to fix if they got hit by bombs cruise missiles accidently falling out of the sky.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at October 13, 2026 02:48 PM (HRWBu)

82 81 Ships carry thousands of containers at once, while [Iran's] roads and railways remain constrained by weak infrastructure, border queues and limited capacity.

Those constrained land routes must cross multiple bridges that would take forever to fix if they got hit by bombs cruise missiles accidently falling out of the sky.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at October 13, 2026 02:48 PM (HRWBu)

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And we hit a bunch in the last round of major bombing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 02:48 PM (R0rrx)

83 70 O/T: Has anyone seen the Talasqueek-Hole ad where the images bounce all over the page? To me that just screams 'unstable' instead of edgy or eye-catching.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at October 13, 2026 02:42 PM (JNTt1)

No, but I just got home a few minutes ago and among all the political signs near Kroger, on the corner of a big intersection, is a printed sign that says, and I kid you not:

Protect Pdfiles Not Children
Vote Democrat

The pdf word is spelled out on the sign. I’m sure some left wing loon will take it down, but I loved it.

Posted by: TxAnn at October 13, 2026 02:48 PM (itAg7)

84 Apologies if I am the 5342 person to ask, but what is going on with the site and Brave today? I can’t connect to it at all.
Posted by: Piper at October 13, 2026 02:44 PM (hftzA)

Using Brave and don't have any problems accessing the site or posting at the moment.

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 13, 2026 02:49 PM (WYStd)

85 That's really bold faced of her. Doesn't she have enough to pay a lawyer from all the illicit things she's involved with?

And the Democrat dopes will donate .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

It is a fundraising opportunity. As one gift ends, another must begin.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 13, 2026 02:49 PM (CeYzE)

86 =======

I don't have questions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed
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Presented another way.
Why is this a surprise?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2026 02:49 PM (+UcOf)

87 I turned over management of my email accounts to Muse. It only took a few minutes and I am sure I will be pleased and not all surprised with the results.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 13, 2026 02:49 PM (2ap+5)

88 Poor baby Saijo being blamed! lol.

Posted by: Piper at October 13, 2026 02:49 PM (hftzA)

89 I think anytime a ship is hit with "a projectile" anywhere within 500 miles of Hormuz... it's reported that it was "in" the Hormuz Strait.

Several of the latest hits were in Omani waters to the south of the actual strait... hundreds of miles away. Those would be (likely) the Houthi's being dicks again.

And being a narrow, congested (and contested) chokepoint, almost anything that shoots "a projectile" is likely to hit something there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 13, 2026 02:50 PM (RORbl)

90 Protect Pdfiles Not Children
Vote Democrat

Posted by: TxAnn at October 13, 2026 02:48 PM (itAg7)

It's funny because it's true.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 13, 2026 02:51 PM (TCvR+)

91 84 Apologies if I am the 5342 person to ask, but what is going on with the site and Brave today? I can’t connect to it at all.
Posted by: Piper
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No problems here.
Did you change settings?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2026 02:51 PM (+UcOf)

92
Annual exams and shots for Dot and Diana today. $811.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 13, 2026 02:51 PM (eRlcH)

93 Annual exams and shots for Dot and Diana today. $811.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Wow. Do you have health insurance for your dogs?

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2026 02:53 PM (77rzZ)

94 Apologies if I am the 5342 person to ask, but what is going on with the site and Brave today? I can’t connect to it at all.
Posted by: Piper

5343 - whassup?? It has been running a little slow on connecting.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2026 02:53 PM (jmpEl)

95 How many children has Andy Burnham touched?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 13, 2026 02:53 PM (2GVsD)

96 Now we know why our B-1 bombers were rebased in a hurry. Imagine if the 8th Air Force left England because the Brits couldn't care less about Nazis running around our bases.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 13, 2026 02:55 PM (CwhoI)

97 It must be you. Or maybe Saijo did something. He seems the type.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

When he does things like that, he uses his alias, "Soup."

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2026 02:56 PM (77rzZ)

98 Apologies if I am the 5342 person to ask, but what is going on with the site and Brave today? I can’t connect to it at all.
Posted by: Piper at October 13, 2026 02:44 PM (hftzA)

I use Brave, as well, and have been having the same issues. Could the fact that we both live near the hurricane damage zone have something to do with it?

Infrastructure issues in NW FL/Eastern AL?

Posted by: one hour sober at October 13, 2026 02:57 PM (J4Dwc)

99 I really wish they would rename Downing Street to K.K. Downing Street.

Posted by: garrett at October 13, 2026 02:58 PM (GHE5A)

100 100

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2026 02:58 PM (77rzZ)

101
Macbeth is my favorite Shakespeare play.
Posted by: Bulg

================

It has my favorite line in all of Shakespeare in it. "Lay on, MacDuff!" I'm so mad that Shakespeare tacked on that next line just to make a couplet. GRRRR. If I was directing a production, the next line would be cut.

But my favorite play is still Twelfth Night.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 13, 2026 02:58 PM (mmrXZ)

102 Okay, I guess not

Posted by: one hour sober at October 13, 2026 02:59 PM (J4Dwc)

103
I really wish they would rename Downing Street to K.K. Downing Street.
Posted by: garrett

===============

How about Drowning Street?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 13, 2026 02:59 PM (mmrXZ)

104 But my favorite play is still Twelfth Night.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

That's a good one, too.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2026 03:00 PM (77rzZ)

105 I really wish they would rename Downing Street to K.K. Downing Street.

After the thing with Starmer's Ukranian rent boys it should've been Going Down Street.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 13, 2026 03:00 PM (2ocoG)

106 104 But my favorite play is still Twelfth Night.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

That's a good one, too.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2026 03:00 PM (77rzZ)

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It's no Manos: the Hand of Fate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 03:00 PM (R0rrx)

107 It's no Manos: The Hands of Fate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Nothing is.

Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2026 03:01 PM (77rzZ)

108
It's no Manos: the Hand of Fate.
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it lacks the joie de vivre, and depth of "Point Break".

Posted by: Call back at October 13, 2026 03:02 PM (anL5R)

109 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at October 13, 2026 03:02 PM (Ia/+0)

110 >>>Neither corridor can replace maritime trade. Ships carry thousands of containers at once, while roads and railways remain constrained by weak infrastructure, border queues and limited capacity.

And in that part of the world (and Los Angeles), rail and truck shipments never make it whole to their destination.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 13, 2026 03:02 PM (CwhoI)

111 Oh, thought they were all Englishman

Posted by: Skip at October 13, 2026 03:02 PM (Ia/+0)

112 >>It's no Manos: the Hand of Fate.

The master will be pleased.

Posted by: Torgo at October 13, 2026 03:02 PM (GHE5A)

113
Thanks. Macbeth is my favorite Shakespeare play.
Posted by: Bulg at October 13, 2026 02:38 PM (77rzZ)

Hot potato, orchestra stalls, Puck will make amends!

Always call it The Scottish Play!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 13, 2026 03:03 PM (y9nCu)

114 110 And in that part of the world (and Los Angeles), rail and truck shipments never make it whole to their destination.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 13, 2026 03:02 PM (CwhoI)

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The rail from Western Iran to China passes through Pakistan and Turkmenistan. There's also a gauge change that requires a sixty mile trek from one to the next.

Their Caspian ports are also tiny compared to their Persian and Omani ports.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 03:03 PM (R0rrx)

115 "Iran still gets some oil out in trucks through land highways.

Scott Bessent is pressuring Turkey and Pakistan to shut down Iran's last remaining routes for delivering oil"
=========

The Administration's diesel purchase agreement with Russia pulled up all sorts of blather, with focus being "what about Ukraine????"

But I think the bigger story is how hard of a hit Iran took when Russia signed on to the oil deal. The US made a decision to throw a lifeline to Russia (and the GOP chances in the midterm) and, by doing so, squeeze the living crap out of the Persians by easing the energy sector pain in the West with diesel imports from secure ports.

Posted by: mrp at October 13, 2026 03:04 PM (rj6Yv)

116 How about Drowning Street?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 13, 2026 02:59 PM (mmrXZ)

LET THE POLITICIANS HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE POLITICIANS HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE POLITICIANS HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE POLITICIANS HIT THE FLOOOOOOOOOR!

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 03:05 PM (rbvCR)

117 Wasn't the Oak Royal sank at harbor by the germans in WW Eleven?

Posted by: Ilhan Omar, Low IQ and loving it! at October 13, 2026 03:05 PM (NkqBW)

118 116 How about Drowning Street?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 13, 2026 02:59 PM (mmrXZ)

LET THE POLITICIANS HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE POLITICIANS HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE POLITICIANS HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE POLITICIANS HIT THE FLOOOOOOOOOR!

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 03:05 PM (rbvCR)

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I'm trying to read between the lines for the actual message of this song.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 03:05 PM (R0rrx)

119 I use Brave, as well, and have been having the same issues. Could the fact that we both live near the hurricane damage zone have something to do with it?

Infrastructure issues in NW FL/Eastern AL?
Posted by: one hour sober

Supposedly, that was the whole purpose of the internet. To automatically work around problem areas. I'm in Texas and it's been a little squirrely at thread changes.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2026 03:05 PM (jmpEl)

120 >>I think the bigger story is how hard of a hit Iran took when Russia signed on to the oil deal. The US made a decision to throw a lifeline to Russia (and the GOP chances in the midterm) and, by doing so, squeeze the living crap out of the Persians by easing the energy sector pain in the West with diesel imports from secure ports.

It doesn't even have to come to fruition, really. Just as long as it is sufficient to stymie the futures trading, it's a success. It can all just be 'on paper'.

Posted by: Torgo at October 13, 2026 03:06 PM (GHE5A)

121 120 It doesn't even have to come to fruition, really. Just as long as it is sufficient to stymie the futures trading, it's a success. It can all just be 'on paper'.

Posted by: Torgo at October 13, 2026 03:06 PM (GHE5A)

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The real problem is that in the 70s we had 300 refineries in the US, but now we have just over 100.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 03:07 PM (R0rrx)

122 13 The Shirtless Seven. Soon to be a Netflix series. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
————

Played by morbidly obese Schwarze Frauen.

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at October 13, 2026 03:08 PM (RjTGW)

123 But I think the bigger story is how hard of a hit Iran took when Russia signed on to the oil deal. The US made a decision to throw a lifeline to Russia (and the GOP chances in the midterm) and, by doing so, squeeze the living crap out of the Persians by easing the energy sector pain in the West with diesel imports from secure ports.
Posted by: mrp at October 13, 2026 03:04 PM (rj6Yv)

It is worse than that, it was not aimed at Iran at all. It is most likely aimed at destroying the price setting function of the commodity traders who are pricing oil and diesel at levels that have more to do with their monopoly on trades, and not so much on availability of product.
This is what Trump is doing with US beef, by the way, by developing producer to market routes directly from producer to consumer without going through the brokers first

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 03:08 PM (rbvCR)

124 Same here, rick, Piper. Might be an ATT thing? I was getting DNS issues earlier until I hopped on the VPN.

Posted by: RandomDave at October 13, 2026 03:08 PM (aJQbY)

125 98 Apologies if I am the 5342 person to ask, but what is going on with the site and Brave today? I can’t connect to it at all.
Posted by: Piper at October 13, 2026 02:44 PM (hftzA)

I use Brave, as well, and have been having the same issues. Could the fact that we both live near the hurricane damage zone have something to do with it?

Infrastructure issues in NW FL/Eastern AL?
Posted by: one hour sober
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Try connecting to ace with a VPN. Had same issues this morning with intermittent connection. I am guessing it is a DNS problem somewhere along the line and perhaps Cloudfare is involved.

Russian bot farms took a hit when a Yandex facility got hit by the Ukes and some of the Russian hits on Uke webservers may also be an issue.

Posted by: whig at October 13, 2026 03:09 PM (bk5GW)

126 This is what Trump is doing with US beef, by the way, by developing producer to market routes directly from producer to consumer without going through the brokers first
==
Its almost as if he's watched all 5 seasons of Clarkson's Farm.

Posted by: Call back at October 13, 2026 03:10 PM (anL5R)

127 >>The real problem is that in the 70s we had 300 refineries in the US, but now we have just over 100.

The Native American Tribes could be printing money with Refineries and Private Hospitals.

Instead, they are cashing welfare Checks and selling Roadside Fry Bread and Turquoise.

Posted by: garrett at October 13, 2026 03:10 PM (GHE5A)

128 Same here, rick, Piper. Might be an ATT thing? I was getting DNS issues earlier until I hopped on the VPN.
Posted by: RandomDave at October 13, 2026 03:08 PM (aJQbY)
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Probably, I couldn't access the site until 20 minutes ago.

Posted by: mrp at October 13, 2026 03:10 PM (rj6Yv)

129 IIRC the administration had been "watching" the Islamic saboteurs for some time. The snap decision to get the B-1's out of the UK came when two things happened;

- The UK authorities let the terrorists go
- It was suggested that an attack on the airbase by a swarm of drones (similar to what Ukraine did to Russia) would be... unstoppable with what was there.

It's a tactical loss for the US... leaving the base, but a strategic win keeping the B-1's safe here. We'll likely need them to bomb London soon.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 13, 2026 03:11 PM (RORbl)

130 127 >>The real problem is that in the 70s we had 300 refineries in the US, but now we have just over 100.

The Native American Tribes could be printing money with Refineries and Private Hospitals.

Instead, they are cashing welfare Checks and selling Roadside Fry Bread and Turquoise.

Posted by: garrett at October 13, 2026 03:10 PM (GHE5A)

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We massively increased our drilling capacity but took body blows to our refining capacity. Not quite ideal.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 03:11 PM (R0rrx)

131 The real problem is that in the 70s we had 300 refineries in the US, but now we have just over 100.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 03:07 PM (R0rrx)

I was going to make a snarky comment about this similar to many comments I have seen about why kids can't afford to buy houses until they are 40, but then I realized I don't have the energy to support a troll comment like that today

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 03:11 PM (rbvCR)

132 Supposedly, that was the whole purpose of the internet. To automatically work around problem areas. I'm in Texas and it's been a little squirrely at thread changes.
Posted by: rickb223

DNS is the centralizing feature of the net and that is its weakness. Changes the numbers of the IP address to a recognizable placename and is often the issue with broader connectivity issues. Someone speculated that ATT is having issues with its DNS servers and that could be part of the puzzle.

Posted by: whig at October 13, 2026 03:11 PM (bk5GW)

133 Yeah, I'm on AT&T fiber optic internets

Posted by: one hour sober at October 13, 2026 03:11 PM (J4Dwc)

134 >>Russian bot farms took a hit when a Yandex facility got hit by the Ukes and some of the Russian hits on Uke webservers may also be an issue.

Do the Macedonians next!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 13, 2026 03:12 PM (GHE5A)

135 Everyone (including Bessent) seems to be ignoring the China-Iran railway corridor, which is not only still up and running. It has had a massive surge in traffic since hostilities.

Posted by: Orson at October 13, 2026 03:12 PM (dIske)

136 The Native American Tribes could be printing money with Refineries and Private Hospitals.

Instead, they are cashing welfare Checks and selling Roadside Fry Bread and Turquoise.
==
Well the casino trade generates far less garbage, and has less overhead.

Posted by: Chief Wahoo the IV at October 13, 2026 03:12 PM (anL5R)

137 135 Everyone (including Bessent) seems to be ignoring the China-Iran railway corridor, which is not only still up and running. It has had a massive surge in traffic since hostilities.

Posted by: Orson at October 13, 2026 03:12 PM (dIske)

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How long of a train does Iran need to replicate the storage of one VLCC?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 03:12 PM (R0rrx)

138 I>>The real problem is that in the 70s we had 300 refineries in the US, but now we have just over 100.

The Native American Tribes could be printing money with Refineries and Private Hospitals.

Instead, they are cashing welfare Checks and selling Roadside Fry Bread and Turquoise.
Posted by: garrett at October 13, 2026 03:10 PM (GHE5A)
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I think there is a tremendous opportunity available to the GOP to have an outdoor campaign appearance outside one of the three refineries Gavin Newsom shut down recently.

Posted by: mrp at October 13, 2026 03:13 PM (rj6Yv)

139 Terrorists everywhere know they will be released if caught before the kaboom.

Posted by: torabora at October 13, 2026 03:13 PM (Wt1Rs)

140 101
Macbeth is my favorite Shakespeare play.
Posted by: Bulg
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You mean the Scottish play. Supposedly bad luck to actors if they call it by name.

Posted by: whig at October 13, 2026 03:13 PM (bk5GW)

141 If he rejoins the EU, Burnham better convert to Islam if he wants to keep his job, since the English won't keep voting for him.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 13, 2026 03:14 PM (6CYck)

142 The Native American Tribes could be printing money with Refineries and Private Hospitals.

Instead, they are cashing welfare Checks and selling Roadside Fry Bread and Turquoise.
==
Well the casino trade generates far less garbage, and has less overhead.
Posted by: Chief Wahoo the IV

And shitloads of weed.

Posted by: Seneca Tribe at October 13, 2026 03:14 PM (seCv0)

143 140 101
Macbeth is my favorite Shakespeare play.
Posted by: Bulg
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You mean the Scottish play. Supposedly bad luck to actors if they call it by name.

Posted by: whig at October 13, 2026 03:13 PM (bk5GW)

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So, every time we say Macbeth, an actor dies?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, taking speed with Bob Fosse at October 13, 2026 03:14 PM (R0rrx)

144 Same here, rick, Piper. Might be an ATT thing? I was getting DNS issues earlier until I hopped on the VPN.
Posted by: RandomDave

That's a very good possibility. Because I am on AT& T.

C'mon Elon! As soon as Starlink goes cellphone, AT&T can KMA.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2026 03:14 PM (jmpEl)

145 The real problem is that in the 70s we had 300 refineries in the US, but now we have just over 100.

The Native American Tribes could be printing money with Refineries and Private Hospitals.

Instead, they are cashing welfare Checks and selling Roadside Fry Bread and Turquoise.
Posted by: garrett at October 13, 2026 03:10 PM (GHE5A)
______

Natives are basically Somalis: thieves, fraudsters, and criminals lorded over by an elite cast of even bigger thieves, fraudsters, and criminals who prey on their own as well as on the White Man.

The casino model works well for them because it's the ultimate in mafia-style criminality.

I'm not sure the natives have the will or the ability to build and run refineries.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 13, 2026 03:14 PM (iFTx/)

146 > Someone speculated that ATT is having issues with its DNS servers and that could be part of the puzzle.

This should be easy to test. Change your DNS server to 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 and see if you still have a problem.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 13, 2026 03:14 PM (mkw2N)

147 They pretend ignorance of common sense.

They pretend epiphany of common knowledge.

And then they expect us to applaud?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 13, 2026 03:16 PM (RIvkX)

148 bonhomme, that was part of my diagnostics earlier. 8.8.8.8 resolved ace.mu.nu fine, my ATT default DNS failed.

Posted by: RandomDave at October 13, 2026 03:16 PM (aJQbY)

149 I really wish they would rename Downing Street to K.K. Downing Street.
Posted by: garrett

===============

How about Drowning Street?
=======
How about Shithead Lane?

Posted by: Bonecrusher at October 13, 2026 03:16 PM (JNTt1)

150 I'm not sure the natives have the will or the ability to build and run refineries.

Posted by: Elric The Blade
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Do as the Saudis do, sub it out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2026 03:16 PM (+UcOf)

151 what JS said @ 34

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 13, 2026 03:17 PM (VyBeY)

152 The casino model works well for them because it's the ultimate in mafia-style criminality.

I'm not sure the natives have the will or the ability to build and run refineries.
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WTH raycist? what about all those factories, shipyards, and utilities I found when arrived?

Posted by: Christopher Columbus at October 13, 2026 03:17 PM (anL5R)

153 This is what Trump is doing with US beef, by the way, by developing producer to market routes directly from producer to consumer without going through the brokers first
==
Its almost as if he's watched all 5 seasons of Clarkson's Farm.
Posted by: Call back at October 13, 2026 03:10 PM (anL5R)
++++

Another reason beef is stubbornly high is that everyone with enough acreage is buying breeding stock, not so much selling to processors. Calves are walking gold mines. Some day soon, the bubble will burst.

Posted by: mrp at October 13, 2026 03:17 PM (rj6Yv)

154 The HQ home page often fails to load using Brave on my iPad. No issues with Brave on my Android phone.

Posted by: PabloD at October 13, 2026 03:17 PM (vVfkq)

155 133 Yeah, I'm on AT&T fiber optic internets
Posted by: one hour sober

ATT did have its fiber rounter preconfigured with unchangeable DNS (in part so they can track and sell your internet traffic to others). Going to a real (not the fake free ones that commoditize your web traffic to sell at best) VPN encrypts your traffic to and fro and sends it to its own set of DNS name servers.

Another route is to put a router behind the ATT fiber optic one and use different DNS settings. Cloudfare has DNS servers with traffic back and forth encrypted to it. Google has its own DNS servers that are free to use as do a few other big outfits.

Posted by: whig at October 13, 2026 03:18 PM (bk5GW)

156 nother reason beef is stubbornly high is that everyone with enough acreage is buying breeding stock, not so much selling to processors.
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I'm thinking about it and it only takes about 20 minutes to mow my backyard.

Posted by: I'm sure my dog would find it awkward at October 13, 2026 03:19 PM (anL5R)

157 Another reason beef is stubbornly high is that everyone with enough acreage is buying breeding stock, not so much selling to processors. Calves are walking gold mines. Some day soon, the bubble will burst.
Posted by: mrp at October 13, 2026 03:17 PM (rj6Yv)

Hamburger has already come down in my area so that is to the positive, and if the state will allow home butchering for private sale, then even those guys with two steers on 10 acres will be able to make their money back and fill their freezer when they get big enough to butcher.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 03:19 PM (rbvCR)

158 So, every time we say Macbeth, an actor dies?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Lots of odd accidents supposedly reported by actors in those plays. Ask them sometime about it.

Distant collateral relative of mine as is MacDuff.

Posted by: whig at October 13, 2026 03:19 PM (bk5GW)

159 the only decent contribution by england over the last 200 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWr64LatXI

and Dave Allen

and Monty Python

Posted by: what the cat drug in at October 13, 2026 03:19 PM (jrgJz)

160 Vance just announced today that they will be invoking the Defense Production Act to expand a refinery In Tyler, TX.

They know where the bottlenecks are.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 13, 2026 03:20 PM (viF8m)

161 "Burnham is negotiating to undo Brexit and rejoin the EU. He previously claimed he wouldn't do this."

To be perfectly honest, if you gave anyone in the Conservative Party truth serum, they would say exactly the same thing. From Cameron, to Johnson, to May, to Truss, to Sunak - they all would say the same thing. Kemi as well.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 13, 2026 03:20 PM (0CU3H)

162 "Burnham is negotiating to undo Brexit and rejoin the EU. He previously claimed he wouldn't do this."

To be perfectly honest, if you gave anyone in the Conservative Party truth serum, they would say exactly the same thing. From Cameron, to Johnson, to May, to Truss, to Sunak - they all would say the same thing. Kemi as well.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 13, 2026 03:20 PM (0CU3H)

163 147, very well said!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 13, 2026 03:20 PM (VyBeY)

164 C'mon Elon! As soon as Starlink goes cellphone, AT&T can KMA.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2026 03:14 PM (jmpEl)

Same here with Verizon. Maybe also with Spectrum, but sooner.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 13, 2026 03:20 PM (TCvR+)

165 and Dave Allen

==

was Irish!

Posted by: runner at October 13, 2026 03:21 PM (AKptf)

166 I'm not sure the natives have the will or the ability to build and run refineries.

Posted by: Elric The Blade
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Do as the Saudis do, sub it out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2026 03:16 PM (+UcOf)
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Possible, but tricky to do on tribal lands and with tribes do to tax issues, sovereignty, and federal regs.

I think something like a refinery would still have to go through all the hoops in terms of federal review as any other refinery.

Tribes have sovereignty and extensive control over their territories, but it's not like they can build a nuclear reactor without substantial federal oversight.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 13, 2026 03:21 PM (iFTx/)

167 NOOD Kumala

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 13, 2026 03:22 PM (l3cgK)

168 I have VPN available with my Bit Defender package. Never used it.

Posted by: one hour sober at October 13, 2026 03:23 PM (J4Dwc)

169 Possible, but tricky to do on tribal lands and with tribes do to tax issues, sovereignty, and federal regs.

I think something like a refinery would still have to go through all the hoops in terms of federal review as any other refinery.

Tribes have sovereignty and extensive control over their territories, but it's not like they can build a nuclear reactor without substantial federal oversight.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Ok then. Bunny Ranches!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2026 03:23 PM (jmpEl)

170 > bonhomme, that was part of my diagnostics earlier.

Nice! Sounds fairly definitive.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 13, 2026 03:24 PM (mkw2N)

171 it's a really good point, the tribes could do so much more with their extraterritoriality than taxfree cigs, taxfree liquor, and gambling.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 13, 2026 03:24 PM (VyBeY)

172 164 C'mon Elon! As soon as Starlink goes cellphone, AT&T can KMA.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 13, 2026 03:14 PM (jmpEl)

Same here with Verizon. Maybe also with Spectrum, but sooner.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 13, 2026 03:20 PM (TCvR+)

I spoke with a friend of mine (and fellow Moron) who's looking to upgrade his phone from i8 to i16/17. His carrier wants to lock him into a five-year deal. I think they see which way the wind will blow when Starlink is fully operational and want to head churn off at the pass.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 13, 2026 03:25 PM (0CU3H)

173 Possible, but tricky to do on tribal lands and with tribes do to tax issues, sovereignty, and federal regs.

I think something like a refinery would still have to go through all the hoops in terms of federal review as any other refinery.

Tribes have sovereignty and extensive control over their territories, but it's not like they can build a nuclear reactor without substantial federal oversight.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

You would be correct. Chevron deference was named for a refinery case involving EPA interpretation of the Clean Air Act. Refineries are huge emitters of air and water pollutants and many of these like benzene have been implicated as cancer causing among other things.

Also you need refineries to be close to the oil fields, ports nearby, or rely on crude oil pipeline networks for feed stock.

Posted by: whig at October 13, 2026 03:25 PM (bk5GW)

174 Tribes have sovereignty and extensive control over their territories, but it's not like they can build a nuclear reactor without substantial federal oversight.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 13, 2026 03:21 PM (iFTx/)

The possibility of the Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde going nuclear is slightly less scary than Raven a.k.a. Dmitri Ravinoff from Snowcrash by Neil Stephenson having a nuke in his sidecar.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 13, 2026 03:25 PM (rbvCR)

175 >>> 167 NOOD Kumala
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 13, 2026 03:22 PM (l3cgK)

She don't need to be nood to do her thing.

Posted by: Willie Brown at October 13, 2026 03:27 PM (3mtzY)

176 >>>they all would say the same thing. Kemi as well.

Posted by: Darrell Harris
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Darrell Harris, good to see you here.
How is the politicking going?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2026 03:32 PM (+UcOf)

177 o...........k...........

Burnham can't "access data" from the EU and therefore has to admit 1000s of scruffy third-worlders a day.

I don't think there's a Venn diagram for this, can you provide one of those things with "f" and "x"?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 13, 2026 02:29 PM (mmrXZ)

Its pretty simple. Accept nobody from the EU until further notice, especially on covert boats on beaches.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 13, 2026 03:45 PM (uhVAy)

178 Natives are basically Somalis: thieves, fraudsters, and criminals lorded over by an elite cast of even bigger thieves, fraudsters, and criminals who prey on their own as well as on the White Man.

The casino model works well for them because it's the ultimate in mafia-style criminality.

I'm not sure the natives have the will or the ability to build and run refineries.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 13, 2026 03:14 PM (iFTx/)

Indians only became involved in Casino whoring when politicians and casino makers decided that legalizing gambling was too risky so they found some dubious workaround by claiming "Indian Lands" were outside state jurisdiction. Same with the "Riverboat" casinos in Mid America which had archaic laws that said riverboats docked at a port weren't subject for anti gambling laws. So they started building "Riverboats" that were thicker than the river itself that could never move. They finally drew a line when a racetrack tried to dig a pit in his parking lot, stick a "lakeboat" in it and insert a casino.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 13, 2026 03:51 PM (uhVAy)

179 I guess, as a Brit without a gun, if you try to revolt against the revolting barbarians arriving daily from Calais, you are arrested for Islamophobia.

I know I would either get out if possible or be in jail. It is sad to see this for me as I loved our trips there.

Otherwise I am unclear why this continues to be British suicide.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at October 13, 2026 04:06 PM (hzuYO)

180 How is the politicking going?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 13, 2026 03:32 PM (+UcOf)

I may get Willowed, so I'll repost later. Campaigning takes a lot of work. I've got a small but great team volunteering their time, but I'm spending 8-10 hours a day either coming up with content, making short videos with my cellphone at various locations, etc. I must say that I have a new respect for politicians that look smooth in front of a camera. I'm reading handmade cue cards for my talks, and it shows sometimes.

I received my $25K from the state, and I've got three weeks to spend it. I only have time for 2 mailers for my three towns, and I'm learning to lean into social for the rest. The debate gave us a lot of positive momentum. I'm speaking at the Weston RTC tonight, so we'll see how that goes. Republicans as a whole are very beaten up here, so the challenge is to give them a reason to turn out. Not easy at all.

Staying positive, however. I really think I can win this.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 13, 2026 04:12 PM (0CU3H)

181 "I still do not understand how we have a navy that we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on, yet we cannot secure a stretch of water like the strait against a bunch of 7th century death cultists."

I've noticed they aren't using 7th century weaponry.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at October 13, 2026 06:14 PM (SS4Os)

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