Mid-Morning Art Thread

The Trojan Women Setting Fire to Their Fleet
Claude Lorrain

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

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1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 14, 2026 09:31 AM (Wm7l/)

2 Top 5?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 14, 2026 09:31 AM (wzUl9)

3 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 14, 2026 09:31 AM (iTxNj)

4 So it wasn't the sea that was angry that day, my friends.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 14, 2026 09:32 AM (Wm7l/)

5 The "We don't need men!" movement.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 14, 2026 09:32 AM (iTxNj)

6 I like it!

Posted by: Hernan Cortes at October 14, 2026 09:32 AM (aKg+z)

7 The Trojan *women*? Were there any non-slaves left after the Greeks overwhelmed the city? Or did they set fire to the fleet to motivate the men to defend Troy to the death?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 14, 2026 09:33 AM (wzUl9)

8 The Trojan women were angry that day, my friends.

Posted by: George Costanza at October 14, 2026 09:33 AM (Rmdar)

9 Those were regular size Trojans and they preferred Magnums?

Posted by: Pete Bog at October 14, 2026 09:33 AM (fUhC0)

10 At first I thought it said 'set fire to their feet.' Now THAT would be an intriguing painting.

Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026 09:33 AM (Jr5Lq)

11 This is a switch. Usually get Vulgar Boatmen. Now we got Vulgar Boatwomen.

Posted by: Progress? at October 14, 2026 09:34 AM (EdP2u)

12
Well, at least they were not poking pin holes in their condoms.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 09:34 AM (ixS3i)

13 I see no flames, so maybe they have not yet Bic-flicked.

Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026 09:34 AM (Jr5Lq)

14 Not a bad painting, but something is mizzen.

Posted by: Can't Put My Finger On It at October 14, 2026 09:35 AM (EdP2u)

15 Historical anomaly that abounds in old art. The Trojan fleet wouldn't been square rigged and sporting Spanish pennants among others.

Cultural Appropriation.

Or a different set of chicks making bad economic choices. IDK

Posted by: Pete Bog at October 14, 2026 09:35 AM (fUhC0)

16 A Trojan woman needs a ship like a fish needs a bicycle.

Posted by: Betty Friedan at October 14, 2026 09:36 AM (Rmdar)

17 Did they have the sadz? That would explain the destruction.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 14, 2026 09:36 AM (svLOV)

18 14 Not a bad painting, but something is mizzen.
Posted by: Can't Put My Finger On It at October 14, 2026 09:35 AM (EdP2u)

Mast...oids

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 14, 2026 09:36 AM (x0n13)

19 The women set fire to the fleet, but the Gods said "not so fast!" and sent a big wave to put the fires out, so status quo ante.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 14, 2026 09:36 AM (Qc29+)

20 Not a bad painting, but something is mizzen.

Posted by: Can't Put My Finger On It at October 14, 2026 09:35 AM (EdP2u)
-

What do you expect from a fire sail!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 14, 2026 09:36 AM (Wm7l/)

21 AI sez: "The Trojan women burned the fleet in Book 5 of Virgil’s Aeneid because they were exhausted and traumatized by years of wandering the sea and wanted to settle permanently in Sicily instead of facing more war and travel."

Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026 09:36 AM (Jr5Lq)

22 I know my Trojan War lore pretty well, but I'm not familiar with this incident.

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 09:36 AM (77rzZ)

23 You know what you did.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 14, 2026 09:37 AM (zcI95)

24
As a scout leader, it is great fun to watch young people when they first learn to light matches to make a fire.

They strike the match and, if it catches, they hurriedly flick it into the fire pit as though it was radioactive. There is no thought given whatsoever as to placing it somewhere in there to actually set something afire.

I larf.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 09:37 AM (ixS3i)

25 Mostly peaceful though.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 14, 2026 09:37 AM (JKjtK)

26 14 Not a bad painting, but something is mizzen.
Posted by: Can't Put My Finger On It at October 14, 2026 09:35 AM

That's a hull of a note.

Posted by: Oh, no... at October 14, 2026 09:37 AM (Rmdar)

27 artvestige.com

The painting The Trojan Women Setting Fire to Their Fleet by Claude Lorrain depicts an event from Virgil's Aeneid, where the women of Troy, tired of wandering after the fall of their city, attempt to burn their ships to force their men to settle in Sicily. This act is spurred on by the goddess Juno, but is ultimately thwarted by divine intervention when Aeneas prays for rain to extinguish the flames.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 14, 2026 09:38 AM (NpAcC)

28 Next time, they'll bring presents back with 'em …

Posted by: Dr_No at October 14, 2026 09:38 AM (ayRl+)

29 So the women were manning the fleet?

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 09:38 AM (77rzZ)

30 Bunch of fucking Karens ….

Posted by: Elric the Blade at October 14, 2026 09:38 AM (VepBY)

31 "No, no, I said let's burn our BRAs, not the bows!!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 14, 2026 09:38 AM (rOKnE)

32 Then they get stabby.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 14, 2026 09:38 AM (zcI95)

33 "The Trojan women burned the fleet in Book 5 of Virgil’s Aeneid because they were exhausted and traumatized by years of wandering the sea and wanted to settle permanently in Sicily instead of facing more war and travel."
Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026

***
Oh, so this was well after the war -- Aeneas and the survivors of the sack of Troy.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 14, 2026 09:39 AM (wzUl9)

34 Trojan ships were not ribbed for her pleasure in those early days.

Posted by: Boaty McBoatface at October 14, 2026 09:39 AM (EdP2u)

35
What do you expect from a fire sail!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,

* slow and prolonged golf clap *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 09:39 AM (ixS3i)

36 Did ancient ships have elaborate frigging rigging like that?

Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026 09:39 AM (Jr5Lq)

37 What do you expect from a fire sail!
-----

Ship happens.

Posted by: Groan at October 14, 2026 09:40 AM (Rmdar)

38 Hold my beer. . .

Posted by: Lysistrata at October 14, 2026 09:40 AM (rOKnE)

39 7 The Trojan *women*? Were there any non-slaves left after the Greeks overwhelmed the city? Or did they set fire to the fleet to motivate the men to defend Troy to the death?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 14, 2026 09:33 AM (wzUl9)
——

This is probably based on the story in the Aenead that takes place well after the war. Aeneas (a Trojan) is basically sailing around endlessly, and the women try to end that by burning the ships.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at October 14, 2026 09:40 AM (VepBY)

40 Must not have had any kids around to strangle.

Posted by: Pete Bog at October 14, 2026 09:41 AM (fUhC0)

41
Trojan ships were not ribbed for her pleasure in those early days.
Posted by: Boaty McBoatface

I am sure that CBD, out of his long experience with this crowd, NEVER expected us to go there.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 09:41 AM (ixS3i)

42 Hope they were given a stern warning not to do that ever again! Or they may have to keel them!

Posted by: Lysistrata at October 14, 2026 09:42 AM (rOKnE)

43 Did ancient ships have elaborate frigging rigging like that?
Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026

***
They certainly had the sail, but I don't know about multiple masts and the like. Lorrain flourished in the 17th Century. So this is probably another example of "dressing the past in the fashions of the present": He painted 1600s ships because that was what he knew.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 14, 2026 09:42 AM (wzUl9)

44 Gotta say...those Trojan ships look pretty advanced for their time.

Maybe the women set fire to their ships so that the Greeks wouldn't get ahold of their superior naval technology.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 14, 2026 09:42 AM (FZ29D)

45 Better their fleet than their feet!

Posted by: Quentin T. & Rex R. at October 14, 2026 09:42 AM (0sNs1)

46 That was a dinghy thing to do!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 14, 2026 09:43 AM (rOKnE)

47 TROJAN MAN!

Posted by: Trojan Man at October 14, 2026 09:43 AM (zcI95)

48
Did ancient ships have elaborate frigging rigging like that?
Posted by: gp

At the time of the Trojan War? No.

But, just like for folks today, for whom history begins in the year 2000, so in Lorrain's day, history began about twenty-five years earlier to when he painted this.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 09:44 AM (ixS3i)

49 We were hungover. Helluva bender last night. The ouzo flowed like water.

Posted by: The Trojan men at October 14, 2026 09:44 AM (Rmdar)

50 They built some nice ships back then.

Posted by: dantesed at October 14, 2026 09:44 AM (Oy/m2)

51 would hang

Posted by: Gref at October 14, 2026 09:44 AM (5rh/l)

52 Fail. Nothing appears to be on fire.

Posted by: Halfhand at October 14, 2026 09:45 AM (RhaPD)

53 I read part of the Aeneid in college when I was reading aloud to blind students.

IIRC, Aeneas was kind of a dullard. He's always asking folks -- gods, humans, Achilles in the underworld -- what he should do, and they all tell him "go to Italy." And then he merrily goes about the business of going somewhere else besides Italy. Finally, it dawns on him, "Hey, maybe I should go to Italy," and he does.

Maybe there was something I missed at the time, since I didn't read the whole thing. But that's the way I remember it.

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 09:45 AM (77rzZ)

54
Did this happen before or after the Trojans languished for a time with Circe?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 09:45 AM (ixS3i)

55 Did the Trojans have 19th century ships?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 14, 2026 09:45 AM (RIvkX)

56
FUN FACT:

Claude Lorrain never achieved the same level of

popularity as did his sister, Quiche.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 14, 2026 09:45 AM (YSUhf)

57 Fail. Nothing appears to be on fire.

Posted by: Halfhand at October 14, 2026

***
There's a heck of a lotta smoke coming from the ship closest to shore.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 14, 2026 09:46 AM (wzUl9)

58
"Hey, maybe I should go to Italy," and he does.

Maybe there was something I missed at the time, since I didn't read the whole thing. But that's the way I remember it.
Posted by: Bulg

Cut the guy some slack -- he was destined to be Roamin'

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 09:46 AM (ixS3i)

59 In Sub Saharan Africa, plate-lipped women took up the torch by burning all the chief's dugout canoes.

Posted by: Ubangi's I Believe at October 14, 2026 09:47 AM (EdP2u)

60 FUN FACT:

Claude Lorrain never achieved the same level of popularity as did his sister, Quiche.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 14, 2026

***
She spelled her last name with that extra E, for class and so she could charge more.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 14, 2026 09:47 AM (wzUl9)

61
Hey, baby! I said 'Light my fire!'

Not Light my boats on fire!!!

Posted by: Trojan Jim Morrison at October 14, 2026 09:48 AM (YSUhf)

62 i'm a teepee.
i'm a wigwam.
i'm too tense.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 09:48 AM (Bep7s)

63 Did this happen before or after the Trojans languished for a time with Circe?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

That was Odysseus.

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 09:48 AM (77rzZ)

64 Aeneas (a Trojan) is basically sailing around endlessly, and the women try to end that by burning the ships.
Posted by: Elric the Blade

Heaven forbid that a man has a hobby.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 14, 2026 09:48 AM (svLOV)

65 Did this happen before or after the Trojans languished for a time with Circe?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026

***
Wasn't that Odysseus and his Greek warriors who dealt with her?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 14, 2026 09:49 AM (wzUl9)

66 12 gnossos papadoupolis.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 09:49 AM (Bep7s)

67 Fail. Nothing appears to be on fire.

Posted by: Halfhand at October 14, 2026

***
There's a heck of a lotta smoke coming from the ship closest to shore.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Where there's smoke, there's a definite need for lube.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 14, 2026 09:49 AM (iTxNj)

68
Strange women rowing boats in evening wear is no basis for a systemic destruction of nautical vessels

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 09:49 AM (ixS3i)

69 12 gnossos papadoupolis.
Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026

***
". . . born to rule this great metropolis!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 14, 2026 09:50 AM (wzUl9)

70 I could stare at this for hours just taking in the details of the ships and landscape. His skill is extraordinary. But it is his use of light and shadow that makes his work stand out for me. There is a luminous quality to the sky and the surrounding land. It is one of the qualities that make the Dutch Masters of that period so effective. I wonder if he had any influence on Maxfield Parrish.

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2026 09:50 AM (yTvNw)

71 Hey, baby! I said 'Light my fire!'

Not Light my boats on fire!!!

Posted by: Trojan Jim Morrison

*Jams on keyboard*

Posted by: Trojan Ray Manczarek at October 14, 2026 09:50 AM (zcI95)

72 gnossos papadoupolis.
Posted by: cmeat

He opened for Cher at the Orpheum in '83.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 14, 2026 09:50 AM (iTxNj)

73
Wasn't that Odysseus and his Greek warriors who dealt with her?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Could be. It's been a while since I read any of that stuff.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 09:50 AM (ixS3i)

74 The Trojan Women Setting Fire to Their Fleet
Claude Lorrain/i]

This could have been painted recently.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 09:50 AM (6ydKt)

75 She spelled her last name with that extra E, for class and so she could charge more.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

So true, guys. Run away when she wants to drag you to a "shoppe".

Posted by: Cheapskate Charlie at October 14, 2026 09:51 AM (EdP2u)

76 36 Did ancient ships have elaborate frigging rigging like that?
Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026 09:39 AM (Jr5Lq)
——

Nope. That wasn’t something developed until at least a thousands years later. Trojan-era ships were basically flat barges powered by oars. They had maybe one simple square sail.

I don’t think even Columbus’ ships had rigging as advanced in this painting.

I saw a life size mockup of the deck of the Santa Maria in Barcelona. I was shocked at how small it was.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at October 14, 2026 09:51 AM (VepBY)

77 a spinster and a spinnaker.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 09:51 AM (Bep7s)

78 How sail-fish of them.

Posted by: Oof at October 14, 2026 09:52 AM (Rmdar)

79 >>Strange women rowing boats in evening wear is no basis for a systemic destruction of nautical vessels

What fresh hull is this!?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 14, 2026 09:52 AM (rOKnE)

80
The Trojan Women Setting Fire to Their Fleet

They had heard about the frigging in the rigging the night before and, by gum, they had had enough!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 09:53 AM (ixS3i)

81 a good tip would be a reservoir.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 09:53 AM (Bep7s)

82 How sail-fish of them.
Posted by: Oof

Indeed. I would rebuke them sternly.

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 09:53 AM (77rzZ)

83 Trojan as a prefix for anything is a scam to drive up the price.
Even worse is the prefix "Tuscan". Twice as much for the same old shit.

Posted by: Savvy Viewer at October 14, 2026 09:53 AM (EdP2u)

84 There's a heck of a lotta smoke coming from the ship closest to shore.

Gah.

Old eyes. Browser zoom. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Halfhand at October 14, 2026 09:53 AM (RhaPD)

85 I thought it was a horse they were famous for, and did feature women, but men.

Posted by: Eromero at October 14, 2026 09:54 AM (LHPAg)

86 I saw a life size mockup of the deck of the Santa Maria in Barcelona. I was shocked at how small it was.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at October 14, 2026 09:51 AM (VepBY)

Italians and Spaniards of the 15th century were only like 4'-6" tall so it makes sense.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 09:55 AM (6ydKt)

87 Gnossos Papadoupolis was quoted this morning: "I have never been in the physical presence of Kimberley Guilfoyle, that wretched boat arsonist."

Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026 09:55 AM (Jr5Lq)

88 Cornell has banned frat parties, so these hot Trojan chicks will have to burn with desire somewhere else.

Posted by: Drivin' That Train, High On Cocaine at October 14, 2026 09:55 AM (EdP2u)

89 did not feature women, of course

Posted by: Eromero at October 14, 2026 09:55 AM (LHPAg)

90
There's a heck of a lotta smoke coming from the ship closest to shore.

That's from the bong in the Stoners' Hold forward. Always on it, they were.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 09:55 AM (ixS3i)

91 This was a reaction by the Trojan women. A protest against their men saying that, despite repeated and exhaustive searches, they couldn't find the alleged man in the boat.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 14, 2026 09:55 AM (0sNs1)

92 That'll teach the Trojan men not to ask for directions!

Posted by: The Trojan women at October 14, 2026 09:56 AM (Rmdar)

93 The Magnum women were too sore to waddle down to the docks to set anything on fire.

Posted by: The Paolo at October 14, 2026 09:56 AM (NGJZx)

94 >> This was a reaction by the Trojan women. A protest against their men saying that, despite repeated and exhaustive searches, they couldn't find the alleged man in the boat.

*there's a tuna joke in there somewhere*

Yet want to prevent them from finding other fish in the sea!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 14, 2026 09:56 AM (rOKnE)

95 92 Ha!

Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026 09:57 AM (Jr5Lq)

96
Gnossos Papadoupolis

Isn't he the little potato dough balls magnate?

Or is that Pierogi Papadoupolis, his distaff cousin?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 09:57 AM (ixS3i)

97 70 an itchy trigger finger made maxfield parrish shoot.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 09:58 AM (Bep7s)

98 ...so these hot Trojan chicks will have to burn with desire somewhere else."

Much like the burning during urination.

Posted by: Gonorrhea at October 14, 2026 09:58 AM (Rmdar)

99
Two words:

FISH

TACOS

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 09:58 AM (ixS3i)

100 Dehydrated.

Posted by: Eromero at October 14, 2026 09:58 AM (LHPAg)

101 72 mimi baez.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 09:58 AM (Bep7s)

102 Wooden ships on the water, very free, and easy

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at October 14, 2026 09:59 AM (ndZc7)

103 Claude Lorrain never achieved the same level of popularity as did his sister, Quiche.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 14, 2026

His brother Al always had a snarky quip at the ready. They called him Al "Sass" Lorrain.

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 10:00 AM (77rzZ)

104 From an auspicious beginning as a Naval Power to running a diner in Astoria.

Posted by: How The Mighty Have Fallen at October 14, 2026 10:00 AM (EdP2u)

105 Caption:

"That bitch, Stephania, wore the same dress as me.

I told her I was gonna wear this to the Boat Burning Gala, and she stole my idea. That whore!

The whole evening's spoiled now. I'm going home and drink Amphora wine. I feel a migraine coming on.

Stupid, Stephania!!!"

Posted by: naturalfake at October 14, 2026 10:00 AM (YSUhf)

106
Wooden ships on the water, very free, and easy

Is THAT what they were saying?

I always thought it was "Woolen socks in the water..."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 10:01 AM (ixS3i)

107 86 when they were shorter and lived near the water.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:01 AM (Bep7s)

108 A Trojan NAVCOM spokesman added: ""We are grateful beyond words that at no time was Kimberley Guilfoyle in the physical presence of any unit of our fleet."

Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026 10:01 AM (Jr5Lq)

109 Trojan women >> toe jam women

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 10:02 AM (77rzZ)

110 Smoke on the water.

Posted by: Fire in the sky at October 14, 2026 10:02 AM (Rmdar)

111 96 he's in the farina book, modifies his condom as described.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:03 AM (Bep7s)

112 Today, these types of women take several pick axes and sledge hammers to your ride.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 14, 2026 10:03 AM (wVcYX)

113 "What do you mean he don't eat no meat?"

Posted by: My Big Fat Greek Wedding at October 14, 2026 10:04 AM (Rmdar)

114 J.J. is a starry eyed idealist.

"If we are conquered, my only consolation is hoping to survive long enough to see the Muslims behead the Democrat-Leftists en masse before I draw my last breath."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at October 14, 2026 10:05 AM (ndZc7)

115 98 if i attend a sporting event i will yell "why does it hurt when i pee" at the trough urinal.
"these ice cubes are hardly ever used in drinks."

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:05 AM (Bep7s)

116 Let me stand next to your fire...

Posted by: Zombie Jimi Hendrix at October 14, 2026 10:06 AM (EdP2u)

117 103 at least they speak deutsche.
"la belle de strasbourg" good pils.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:06 AM (Bep7s)

118 Those ships actually belonged to the Sicilian version of ICE. Thus, the Karens' attempt to burn them.

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 10:06 AM (77rzZ)

119 Good morning! Day 3 of our trip to DC and my feet are wrecked. Monuments and memorials on day1. Smithsonian on day two. Today we will minimize the amount of walking. Going to Arlington cemetery and Mt. Vernon. Hubbymayhem chose Arlington, I chose Mt Vernon.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at October 14, 2026 10:07 AM (sDks9)

120
if i attend a sporting event i will yell "why does it hurt when i pee" at the trough urinal.
"these ice cubes are hardly ever used in drinks."
Posted by: cmeat

"Why does it still sting when I pee? What did that damn quack prescribe for me this time that doesn't work?"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 10:07 AM (ixS3i)

121 Good morning! Day 3 of our trip to DC and my feet are wrecked. Monuments and memorials on day1. Smithsonian on day two. Today we will minimize the amount of walking. Going to Arlington cemetery and Mt. Vernon. Hubbymayhem chose Arlington, I chose Mt Vernon.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem

Be sure to check out Arlington House, too.

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 10:08 AM (77rzZ)

122 Don't like it. Too busy.

Posted by: Case at October 14, 2026 10:08 AM (ROPCF)

123 Trying to figure out what the birds are on the flags atop the masts on the left-hand side boat.

Are those owls?
Looks like they have a flat owl face.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:08 AM (6ydKt)

124 I could have saved these ladies a lot of trouble.

Posted by: Some Stupid W/a Flare Gun at October 14, 2026 10:08 AM (EdP2u)

125 My Win boxes appear to have survived Patch Tuesday update, the biggest ever. AI keeps finding more and more defects in the entire world's (human-written) codebase, and not just Windows! I welcome this. I'm just wondering when we get to peak detection, and the monthly new CVE counts start going down.

Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026 10:08 AM (Jr5Lq)

126
Going to Arlington cemetery and Mt. Vernon. Hubbymayhem chose Arlington, I chose Mt Vernon.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench)

Both are very nice and peaceful sites to visit. Find a somewhere to sit. Then enjoy the view and the place and take your time doing so.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 10:10 AM (ixS3i)

127 "Day 3 of our trip to DC and my feet are wrecked."

That happened to me too. I had to throw away my shoes on the trip home. Pee-yew!

Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026 10:10 AM (Jr5Lq)

128 We said "frigging lights us on fire" not "light the rigging on fire"

Posted by: Trojan Women at October 14, 2026 10:10 AM (DhlIm)

129 119 Good morning! Day 3 of our trip to DC and my feet are wrecked. Monuments and memorials on day1. Smithsonian on day two. Today we will minimize the amount of walking. Going to Arlington cemetery and Mt. Vernon. Hubbymayhem chose Arlington, I chose Mt Vernon.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at October 14, 2026 10:07 AM (sDks9)

No White House tour?
I wouldn't even bother going to the Capitol if I was in D.C., but I'd like to see the White House one day, maybe, if I ever get to D.C.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:11 AM (6ydKt)

130
No White House tour?

As I have heard it, you have to book one of those some weeks in advance.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 10:12 AM (ixS3i)

131 My Win boxes appear to have survived Patch Tuesday update, the biggest ever. AI keeps finding more and more defects in the entire world's (human-written) codebase, and not just Windows! I welcome this. I'm just wondering when we get to peak detection, and the monthly new CVE counts start going down.

Depends if Microsoft actually starts hiring Americans again. Since their CEO is Indian, I'm gonna guess "no".

Posted by: Ian S. at October 14, 2026 10:12 AM (2ocoG)

132 Jimi wrote the song "House Burning Down" to ask the bruthas why they were burning down their own neighborhoods in the MLK riots.

Posted by: Seemed Like A Mistake, In Hindsight at October 14, 2026 10:13 AM (EdP2u)

133 125 My Win boxes appear to have survived Patch Tuesday update, the biggest ever.

Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026 10:08 AM (Jr5Lq)

Was that what that was yesterday that kept on insisting I update and restart, and when I finally gave in and shut down it took about 15 minutes to do it?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:13 AM (6ydKt)

134 I wouldn't even bother going to the Capitol if I was in D.C., but I'd like to see the White House one day, maybe, if I ever get to D.C.

I loved the Air and Space Museum, but that was also in 2004 when the Smithsonian wasn't all The Future Is Black Female Trans And Crippled.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 14, 2026 10:14 AM (2ocoG)

135 130
No White House tour?

As I have heard it, you have to book one of those some weeks in advance.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 10:12 AM (ixS3i)

Yup, I believe so.
I've also heard it helps if you get your congress critter or senator's office to set up an appointment for you.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:14 AM (6ydKt)

136 Have always been curious about the Carrie Underwood song "Before He Cheats" where she destroys a guy's expensive truck based on nothing but suspicion.
Glorifying grand larceny with no consequences whatsoever.
Because grrrlll power!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 14, 2026 10:14 AM (Rmdar)

137 As I have heard it, you have to book one of those some weeks in advance.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Used to be you could just walk right into the visitor center and join up with a tour. But that was pre-9/11, so they've probably tightened up the security since then.

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 10:14 AM (77rzZ)

138 Why the Midterm Polling Is Absolutely, Positively, 100% Wrong. (Maybe.)

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I used to think the Romans were idiots for seeing omens in the entrails of birds.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at October 14, 2026 10:15 AM (ndZc7)

139 I loved the Air and Space Museum, but that was also in 2004 when the Smithsonian wasn't all The Future Is Black Female Trans And Crippled.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 14, 2026 10:14 AM (2ocoG)

Oh yeah, if I was going through all the trouble to go to D.C., I'd definitely go to some of the Smithsonian museums.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:15 AM (6ydKt)

140 5 The "We don't need men!" movement.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 14, 2026 09:32 AM (iTxNj)

It was the opposite. The women wanted to force their men to stop their wandering and stay put in Sicily.

Posted by: No Name Today at October 14, 2026 10:15 AM (8mulE)

141 White House tour must be booked thru a congress critter. We tried but no tour tim available during our trip.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at October 14, 2026 10:15 AM (sDks9)

142 Thanks CBD.

Posted by: Buck (Ofama) at October 14, 2026 10:15 AM (z6ONu)

143 132 geniuses.
entire swaths of our south and west sides have never been rebuilt.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:16 AM (Bep7s)

144 *runs in*

Tea! Earl Grey! Hot!

*sits*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 14, 2026 10:16 AM (amcLV)

145 Have always been curious about the Carrie Underwood song "Before He Cheats" where she destroys a guy's expensive truck based on nothing but suspicion.
Glorifying grand larceny with no consequences whatsoever.

There was that, there was a song where a tornado destroys a guy's house, and I think there was one other song in that vein. I call it "the property damage trilogy".

Posted by: Ian S. at October 14, 2026 10:16 AM (2ocoG)

146
I have heard that the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center
in Chantilly, VA, part of the National Air and Space Museum in DC is well worth the visit (spend a day there).

Explore two large hangars filled with over 3,000 history-making objects, including over 200 aircraft and spacecraft.

Surround yourself with the planes and spacecraft that set records, charted new courses, and made history.

Free Admission
No passes required.
Parking: $15

Open 10:00 am to 5:30 pm
Open every day but December 25

Located at 14390 Air and Space Museum Parkway
Chantilly, VA 20151

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 10:17 AM (ixS3i)

147 Madame Mayhem, both are amazing! Hope you have the best visit to both.

Washington specifically designed the long walking path towards the house, with its wooded areas to be curvy, and wind in such a way to hint at coming attractions. I did not learn about the coolness of the landscaping until after I'd visited.want to go back and experience it with that in mind. Hope you enjoy it, it's just the best. You can buy cool gardening stuff or things like lavender come mix using their own lavender in the gift shop.

Arlington is a sacred place. I get chills during the changing of the guard. If you have any relatives, it's cool to track down their graves and find them. If you have time, seeing the Lee home on the property is also cool, but not essential if you have to save time.

Posted by: LizLem at October 14, 2026 10:17 AM (Toos7)

148 'Depends if Microsoft actually starts hiring Americans again. Since their CEO is Indian, I'm gonna guess "no".'

Not just Microsoft, not just H1-B code. All human-written code. All products. It's all buggy.

Working with AI personally, I've been humbled. I'll never again deploy any code I've written without having an AI review it first. IMHO, that's what all devs should do.

Posted by: gp at October 14, 2026 10:17 AM (Jr5Lq)

149 That happened to me too. I had to throw away my shoes on the trip home. Pee-yew!
Posted by: gp

Best way to de-funkify shoes, sneakers, sandals, flip-flops is to immerse them in rubbing alcohol. Cleans, deodorizes, and dries very quickly.

Posted by: Hints From Heloise at October 14, 2026 10:17 AM (EdP2u)

150 137 that was the case with the carlsberg brewery as well, now you don't get past the elephants.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:18 AM (Bep7s)

151 Corporate America is retarded.

I had a series of interviews for this job I was recruited for. Very first call with recruiter I said I want $X TC and anything less doesn’t interest me. So if that’s not doable let’s not bother. She’s like ok that’s a bit higher than we anticipated paying but we could make it work.

Great.

4 rounds of interviews later I get an offer. It’s 15%less than $X. Turns out they could not “make it work”. So all of us wasted all this time and effort for nothing.

Posted by: All Gay and Retarded at October 14, 2026 10:18 AM (k3anH)

152 Ilhan Omar is OK but Kimberly Guilfoyle is a bitch!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at October 14, 2026 10:18 AM (ndZc7)

153 4 rounds of interviews later I get an offer. It’s 15%less than $X. Turns out they could not “make it work”. So all of us wasted all this time and effort for nothing.

They were probably hoping you'd spring anyway due to sunken cost fallacy.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 14, 2026 10:20 AM (2ocoG)

154 Rigid Specifications Indeed - a limerick

For a Trojan to be properly equipped
It needs a proper fit so it won't slip
And prior to deployment
Should be ribbed for her enjoyment
And don't forget the reservoir tip!

Posted by: muldoon, they're my dad's jokes, don't blame me! at October 14, 2026 10:21 AM (I0N4X)

155 147 "lavender come"
(peeks in gangway)

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:22 AM (Bep7s)

156 "...sunken cost fallacy."

And the ship puns continue!

Posted by: Ah, ha! at October 14, 2026 10:22 AM (Rmdar)

157 Damn! Now I've got CS&N doing "Wooden Ships" in my head. If you live in a seaport, a song named Wooden Ships will have appeal. Never cared for the dystopian lyrics but loved the instrumentals and vocal harmonies.

Posted by: JTB at October 14, 2026 10:22 AM (yTvNw)

158 152 Ilhan Omar is OK but Kimberly Guilfoyle is a bitch!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at October 14, 2026 10:18 AM (ndZc7)

Is that you, Don Jr.?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:22 AM (6ydKt)

159 Reminder that Wednesday is Sundae at your participating Carvel Dealer. All Sundaes 1/2 off!

Posted by: Tom Carvel-He Was Greek! at October 14, 2026 10:23 AM (EdP2u)

160 Oh, and usually this isn't something tourists have time to do, but I love Hains Point in DC. It's most striking in spring, but it's a lovely shady peninsula. I loved going out there when I lived there, just sitting and watching the planes taking off and landing at Reagan and enjoying the view. Would be easy to get an Uber to and from it if you have time. Great tindonifbyiu just need a break but still want some good DC time!

Posted by: LizLem at October 14, 2026 10:23 AM (Toos7)

161 Mornin' Art Folk.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 14, 2026 10:23 AM (2e8h4)

162 I worked at a place where everyone was American. Then one day an Indian CTO was hired. I knew exactly what would happen and got the fuck out fast. Within 3 years everyone who reported up to him was Indian.

They really are colonizers and give zero fucks.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 10:23 AM (k3anH)

163 154 inspiration non attributed.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:24 AM (Bep7s)

164 Meant to say "great thing to do if you just need a break"

Posted by: LizLem at October 14, 2026 10:24 AM (Toos7)

165 Great tindonifbyiu just need a break but still want some good DC time!

Posted by: LizLem at October 14, 2026 10:23 AM (Toos7)

Is tindonifbyiu a new health food or did somebody catch a bad disease?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:24 AM (6ydKt)

166 Working with AI personally, I've been humbled. I'll never again deploy any code I've written without having an AI review it first. IMHO, that's what all devs should do.

Same. Unfortunately my day job is being very cautious about it because Corporate is afraid of the Bluesky furry tranny brigade who've all gotten the NPC programming to hate AI. So my downtime hobby fucking around is more efficient than my paid work.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 14, 2026 10:25 AM (2ocoG)

167 Tom Carvel-He Was Greek!
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Also a type of boat-building.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 14, 2026 10:25 AM (amcLV)

168 Sirhan Sirhan has agreed to talk to Congress— will lawmakers still be listening after November?

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The last thing I remember SS saying is if RFK were still alive, he would support SS's parole. And this was before the Menendez brothers' defense.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at October 14, 2026 10:25 AM (ndZc7)

169 Don't take Tindonifbyiu if you are allergic to Tindonifbyiu.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:25 AM (6ydKt)

170 Thanks for all the advice everyone! We will see the changing of the guard but no relatives to hunt so we won't be hiking around much. Hubbymayhem had to go out and get me some flip flops for today because of the blisters that make sneakers miserable. He's driving right now and advising me to continue not looking at the road or traffic. He's also swearing. A lot.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at October 14, 2026 10:25 AM (sDks9)

171 Gas and diesel going up after Trump's BIG DEAL

Posted by: President Trump at October 14, 2026 10:25 AM (tYuEM)

172
The old lady replied, “Doesn’t matter son, as long as it fits a Camel.”

Posted by: Just the punchline at October 14, 2026 10:27 AM (Rmdar)

173 159 they moved out of here decades ago. something about whipped civets.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:27 AM (Bep7s)

174 Fun fact: During the Civil War, Winfield Scott declared Mount Vernon to be neutral ground. Troops from either side were allowed to visit, but they had to leave their guns outside and wear blankets over their shoulders to cover up their insignia.

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 10:28 AM (77rzZ)

175 160 meig's was good for that during a tailgate. then came shortshanks and his midnight 'dozers.
anyone see them open for dexies?

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:28 AM (Bep7s)

176 Sandy, I was aghast at reading about Indians in Uganda. They basically took over the country, and lead it now, and the native Ugandans are second class citizens in their own country.

So Mandami's family are all colonizers.

Meanwhile, Ilhan's family are all genocide supports. They lied about it on their immigration papers, otherwise they would never have been let in the country.

Nice party you have there, dems!

Posted by: LizLem at October 14, 2026 10:29 AM (Toos7)

177 See what happens when we don't nuke California?

Dude tried to tell you, but nyooooo you just gotta have your hellholes be non-radioactive.

Where the hell do these basement dwellers gotta drive so damn bad anyway? Sure as shit ain't going to the market for deodorant and toothpaste, that's for sure.

Go buy a golf cart and drive if off a cliff or something.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 14, 2026 10:29 AM (aKiSo)

178 165 it means the robot named donald lied to you.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:29 AM (Bep7s)

179 Working with AI personally, I've been humbled. I'll never again deploy any code I've written without having an AI review it first. IMHO, that's what all devs should do.

—

You still write code? 🙂

My team is pretty much all AI all the time now. I have not written a lot of code in a while since I’m a manager. Which sucks as a job but fuck it the money makes up for it lol. I did keep up with things for myself to not lose the skills. With AI, what’s the point? I’ll probably never write a line of code again manually.

What will happen though is people will forget how to write code. It’s like not going to the gym muscle atrophy. 10 years from now will anyone even be able to read the code AI produces? It’s a weird place we’re heading towards.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 10:30 AM (k3anH)

180 176 They basically took over the country, and lead it now, and the native Ugandans are second class citizens in their own country.

Posted by: LizLem at October 14, 2026 10:29 AM (Toos7)

Looking around the West currently I do believe the Indians have their eyes on more than just Uganda.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:30 AM (6ydKt)

181 169 it's ok washed down with covfefe.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:31 AM (Bep7s)

182
Great tindonifbyiu

Myself, I much preferred this, in the authentic Modern Gibberish.

Could equally well have been "Dien Bien Phu".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 10:31 AM (ixS3i)

183 I do not think there is enough comfort in the world to comfort all of the afraid cabin boys.

Posted by: Capn Ned (Raging Queen) at October 14, 2026 10:31 AM (/+uur)

184 He's driving right now and advising me to continue not looking at the road or traffic. He's also swearing. A lot.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem

My family went to DC before I was born. It's been said that the closest my parents ever came to getting divorced was their arguing over how to get to the Iwo Jima Memorial.

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 10:31 AM (77rzZ)

185 I blame Sophie Cunningham!

Amy E. Sousa, MA Depth Psychology
@KnownHeretic
Brave girls walked off of the field at a track meet against a boy!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at October 14, 2026 10:32 AM (ndZc7)

186 Much of South Africa is run by Indians. Or used to be anyway.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 10:33 AM (k3anH)

187 What will happen though is people will forget how to write code. It’s like not going to the gym muscle atrophy. 10 years from now will anyone even be able to read the code AI produces? It’s a weird place we’re heading towards.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 10:30 AM (k3anH)

No, because AI will eventually invent a new coding language that's more efficient for machines but humans are unable to understand it.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:33 AM (6ydKt)

188 No, because AI will eventually invent a new coding language that's more efficient for machines but humans are unable to understand it.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:33 AM (6ydKt)

Learn to Lambda

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 14, 2026 10:33 AM (aKiSo)

189 Tindonifbyiu is our Wednesday night dinner special!

Posted by: Raji at your nearby Indian restaurant at October 14, 2026 10:34 AM (Rmdar)

190 Much of South Africa is run by Indians. Or used to be anyway.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz

That's where Gandhi got his start as a rabblerouser.

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 10:34 AM (77rzZ)

191 No, because AI will eventually invent a new coding language that's more efficient for machines but humans are unable to understand it.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

Windows Clippy will be our go-between.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 14, 2026 10:35 AM (iTxNj)

192 186 Much of South Africa is run by Indians. Or used to be anyway.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 10:33 AM (k3anH)

Still is to an extent.
Some of the wealthiest Indians there have had good relationships with the ANC, especially recent presidents.

They own a lot of business in SA.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:36 AM (6ydKt)

193 Windows Clippy will be our go-between.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 14, 2026 10:35 AM (iTxNj)
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That's "The Clippit" to you, bub.

Posted by: The Clippit at October 14, 2026 10:36 AM (amcLV)

194 "Much of South Africa is run by Indians. Or used to be anyway."

It's not as musky as it used to be.

Posted by: Since he left at October 14, 2026 10:36 AM (Rmdar)

195 Windows Clippy will be our go-between.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 14, 2026 10:35 AM (iTxNj)

God help us all.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:36 AM (6ydKt)

196 Hubbymayhem drives a big rig. Right now he's driving our Kia like it's a Peterbilt with a 50 foot trailer. He's doing fine and I don't do navigating.
My observation is... only drive in DC if you have a truck driver and a Sherman tank.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at October 14, 2026 10:37 AM (sDks9)

197 One of my best friends growing up was Indian, her parents came over from New Delhi with nothing and built a good life. But they also wove themselves into the fabric of America while also honoring their homeland.

I don't understand how the immigrant ethos is now "yeah I'm here for a better life, now let's change everything about America and make it like the place I fled from!" That was not the way. Now it is.

Dinesh is crashing out about the H1B stuff, but in one of his documentaries he admitted he had opportunities in America specifically because its capitalist business structure is not as corrupt and class structured as India. Not full of the graft you need to have to grease palms India. But it feels like that's exactly what's been imported over here.

Posted by: LizLem at October 14, 2026 10:37 AM (Toos7)

198 Idi Amin expelled all Indians from Uganda in 1972.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 14, 2026 10:37 AM (RIvkX)

199 It's sourced by Kaitlan Collins AND Brian Stelter so you know it's true!

Brian Stelter
@brianstelter
Per @kaitlancollins, "several White House officials are questioning how long Katie Zacharia will keep the press secretary job after her first briefing, noting her performance was unlikely to satisfy President Donald Trump."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at October 14, 2026 10:38 AM (ndZc7)

200 I'm so old I remember when The Cosby Show featured a pair of twin grandkids named Nelson and Winnie.

Posted by: Woke. The early years at October 14, 2026 10:39 AM (Rmdar)

201 No White House tour?
I wouldn't even bother going to the Capitol if I was in D.C., but I'd like to see the White House one day, maybe, if I ever get to D.C.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:11 AM (6ydKt)
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The Capitol is a far better experience than a White House tour. WH tour was just the East Wing to begin with, and that doesn't exactly exist right now. General public doesn't get to see the Residence (Obviously) or the West Wing.

Waste of time.

Posted by: ballistic at October 14, 2026 10:39 AM (oqH4h)

202 What will happen though is people will forget how to write code. It’s like not going to the gym muscle atrophy. 10 years from now will anyone even be able to read the code AI produces? It’s a weird place we’re heading towards.

I'm at @poteto's middle ground of "actually writing code is going to be rare, but architecting things will always be valuable".

Posted by: Ian S. at October 14, 2026 10:39 AM (2ocoG)

203 Claude Lorrain's second cousin, twice removed, was Claude Balls.

Posted by: The Cat at October 14, 2026 10:40 AM (0sNs1)

204 Indians were a separate race under apartheid in RSA and had their own house in parliament.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 14, 2026 10:40 AM (RIvkX)

205 Brave girls walked off of the field at a track meet against a boy!!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie?

I despise the fact that the girls are acting braver and more mature than the teachers who are allowing this behavior.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 14, 2026 10:40 AM (svLOV)

206 That's "The Clippit" to you, bub.
Posted by: The Clippit

I'm not your bub, pal.

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 10:41 AM (77rzZ)

207 We are trying to get an Olympic bid... we are very exited to have athletes come and swim in our crystal clear rivers!

Plus all the money laundering and back room cash grabs.

Posted by: India Olympic Committee at October 14, 2026 10:41 AM (Toos7)

208 200 the earlier chet kincaid version where he tries to force his elders to be polite to each other is great. got some good performances out of those two.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:41 AM (Bep7s)

209 197 One of my best friends growing up was Indian, her parents came over from New Delhi with nothing and built a good life. But they also wove themselves into the fabric of America while also honoring their homeland.

I don't understand how the immigrant ethos is now "yeah I'm here for a better life, now let's change everything about America and make it like the place I fled from!" That was not the way. Now it is.

—

It’s a numbers thing. When you’re the only Indian family in town, you adapt and become American. When there are 100 families you form a pack that advances your group interests and you stay Indian.

That’s why early immigrants from Asia assimilated. But as they grew in numbers they stopped having to assimilate. It was easy to just be Indian in the US instead of be Americans from India.

Throw in the woke bullshit of every culture is superior to American culture indoctrination in schools and 2nd generation immigrants stop assimilating as well.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 10:41 AM (k3anH)

210 Brian Stelter
@brianstelter
Per @kaitlancollins, "several White House officials are questioning how long Katie Zacharia will keep the press secretary job after her first briefing, noting her performance was unlikely to satisfy President Donald Trump."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at October 14, 2026 10:38 AM (ndZc7)
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Two bitches said wha??

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 14, 2026 10:41 AM (RIvkX)

211 Cortez did it better

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 14, 2026 10:42 AM (s1VwS)

212 That's "The Clippit" to you, bub.
Posted by: The Clippit at October 14, 2026 10:36 AM

Stay in your lane.

Posted by: Lorena Bobbitt at October 14, 2026 10:42 AM (0sNs1)

213 But it feels like that's exactly what's been imported over here.

Posted by: LizLem at October 14, 2026 10:37 AM (Toos7)

It is.
If you see a large conpany with an Indian CEO ou can be guaranteed that more and more positions at that company are going to be filled by Indians.

There may be a caste system but there certainly is a tribal and nepotistic system they enforce everywhere they go.

And far too many of them walk around with an air of unearned arrogance and disdain for those around them. I suspect that's mainly coming from the Brahmins among them but it's certainly noticeable if you pay attention.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:43 AM (6ydKt)

214 Later folks!

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at October 14, 2026 10:43 AM (sDks9)

215 Kitchen table, eh? So she went coo coo for Cocoa Puffs?

Kamala Harris: I'm aware of memes about my laugh. I was raised in a family that included very powerful women who laughed from their bellies. They would sit around the kitchen table with their coffee, laughing loud laughs. And that's how I laugh–and the people that I respected.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at October 14, 2026 10:44 AM (ndZc7)

216 Break.

Top of the hour, CNN, the most trusted name in news, had Texas in a dead heat now for Talarico.

MSNow - 6 Republicans ask Trump to cancel Russia Diesel deal. I recognized 3 or 4 of the America hating sub-human RINOs.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106 years old - puppy at heart at October 14, 2026 10:45 AM (Sco7b)

217 Madame, you have more important things to do! Have so much fun, and good luck with the feet.

Posted by: India Olympic Committee at October 14, 2026 10:45 AM (Toos7)

218 H1B stated as a cost savings measure. Now it’s straight a colonization measure. H1Bs are paid very well these days, at market rate.

What does the CEOs of Microsoft care it’s not his money.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 10:45 AM (k3anH)

219 Idi Amin expelled all Indians from Uganda in 1972.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Expelled, or ate?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 14, 2026 10:45 AM (iTxNj)

220 Nice painting. Almost as good as Trump's AI-generated videos. President Trump subduing a tiger was realistic and believable.

Posted by: Ed Wells at October 14, 2026 10:46 AM (p8iTN)

221 >>> Kamala Harris: I'm aware of memes about my laugh. I was raised in a family that included very powerful women who laughed from their bellies. They would sit around the kitchen table with their coffee, laughing loud laughs. And that's how I laugh–and the people that I respected.

I should tried that with my scream, maybe I would have survived!

Posted by: Howard Dean at October 14, 2026 10:47 AM (Toos7)

222 MSNow - 6 Republicans ask Trump to cancel Russia Diesel deal. I recognized 3 or 4 of the America hating sub-human RINOs.

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You must love Putin.

Posted by: Ed Wells at October 14, 2026 10:47 AM (p8iTN)

223 Expelled, or ate?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 14, 2026 10:45 AM (iTxNj)
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To-go box

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 14, 2026 10:47 AM (RIvkX)

224 Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 14, 2026 10:41 AM (RIvkX)

The conservative radio station of NYC said that the Trump administration asked her to keep it short and not take a lot of questions, so the MSM mean girls and their male fans are being stupid, as usual

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 14, 2026 10:47 AM (JrHfD)

225 It is.
If you see a large conpany with an Indian CEO ou can be guaranteed that more and more positions at that company are going to be filled by Indians.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:43 AM (6ydKt)
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Correct. If you're a non-Indian working at a company that takes on an Indian in a high leadership position, polish your resume.

Posted by: ballistic at October 14, 2026 10:47 AM (oqH4h)

226 I despise the fact that the girls are acting braver and more mature than the teachers who are allowing this behavior.
Posted by: NR Pax at October 14, 2026 10:40 AM

Or their dads.

Posted by: Scream He's A Cheater at every event at October 14, 2026 10:47 AM (Rmdar)

227 I’ve heard an argument made that it’s better to have H1Bs here because otherwise the jobs would move to India. To which I say, great. Move them to India. Well still have no American jobs but at least our culture will survive.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 10:48 AM (k3anH)

228 Kamala Harris: I'm aware of memes about my laugh. I was raised in a family that included very powerful women who laughed from their bellies. They would sit around the kitchen table with their coffee, laughing loud laughs. And that's how I laugh–and the people that I respected.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at October 14, 2026 10:44 AM (ndZc7)

Notice how you're basically a racist now if you think he laugh is off-putting & juvenile because now you've not only insulted her but her BIPOC family members as well.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:48 AM (6ydKt)

229
Mr. Clippy's a pimp.

He would never have out fought Microsoft's Bob.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Deport! Deport! Deport! at October 14, 2026 10:49 AM (ixS3i)

230 I hear Trojan girls are fast. What should I say? I mean, how should I handle it?

Posted by: Flounder at October 14, 2026 10:49 AM (4Je4D)

231 209 well, devon is now renaed "gandhi margh." indopak indeed.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:49 AM (Bep7s)

232 213 yeah, patels. but the warrior class exudes some of that as well. i call my guy rajesh on it regularly.

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:51 AM (Bep7s)

233 What does the CEOs of Microsoft care it’s not his money.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 10:45 AM (k3anH)

And he just knows how much he'll be welcomed back home after retirement when he settles in a villa outside Mumbai because he hired 200,000 of his countrymen to work at Microsoft.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:51 AM (6ydKt)

234 The conservative radio station of NYC said that the Trump administration asked her to keep it short and not take a lot of questions, so the MSM mean girls and their male fans are being stupid, as usual
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 14, 2026 10:47 AM (JrHfD)
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Yes, They would have said stupid things about it in any case.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 14, 2026 10:52 AM (RIvkX)

235 🚨BREAKING: The RNC has sued New Jersey's Democrat Secretary of State after it was revealed that the state allowed people who have never lived in New Jersey to register and vote.

New Jersey Secretary of State Tahesha Way is named in the lawsuit.

This kind of fraud is exactly why President Trump is demanding the SAVE America Act to secure elections.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 14, 2026 10:52 AM (iTxNj)

236 Googles CEO is Indian as well. I wonder if Google is programmed to provide honest unbiased info when it comes to immigration searches.

Hmmm. I’m sure it is.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 10:53 AM (k3anH)

237 223 go cup -> go box.
you wanna box for that?
no, but i'll wrassle you fer it!

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:53 AM (Bep7s)

238 Also Microsoft’s head of AI is named Mustafa. But I’m sure it’s fine. He would never do anything to advance Muslim interests using AI. That’s just right wing paranoia and extremism. Carry on.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 10:54 AM (k3anH)

239 Trump is working hard on rallies. From X
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Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
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18m
🚨 NOW: President Trump has stunned the nation with his JAM-PACKED SCHEDULE for the midterms

TODAY: Arizona, Montana
TOMORROW: Tele-rallies
FRIDAY: Georgia
SATURDAY: Kentucky
MONDAY: Kansas
TUESDAY: North Carolina

Posted by: whig at October 14, 2026 10:54 AM (E4rtv)

240 Mr. Clippy's a pimp.

He would never have out fought Microsoft's Bob.

Clippy is actually from Bob originally. He escaped when it got shitcanned.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 14, 2026 10:55 AM (2ocoG)

241 238 Also Microsoft’s head of AI is named Mustafa. But I’m sure it’s fine. He would never do anything to advance Muslim interests using AI. That’s just right wing paranoia and extremism. Carry on.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 10:54 AM (k3anH)

Even the girl that runs XBox now is Indian.
Every time a white guy from the C-Suite retires from Microsoft they replace him with an Indian.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:56 AM (6ydKt)

242 230 I hear Trojan girls are fast. What should I say? I mean, how should I handle it?

run

Posted by: anachronda at October 14, 2026 10:57 AM (oY6Yp)

243 To be fair, Einstein annoyed me just as much as Clippy.

Posted by: Bulg at October 14, 2026 10:57 AM (77rzZ)

244 TODAY: Arizona, Montana
TOMORROW: Tele-rallies
FRIDAY: Georgia
SATURDAY: Kentucky
MONDAY: Kansas
TUESDAY: North Carolina
Posted by: whig at October 14, 2026 10:54 AM (E4rtv)

Great... But it's worrisome that he has to go to some States I never expected to be in play...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 14, 2026 10:57 AM (+gK6I)

245 That list of states ain’t a good sign. Montana should be a lock. As should Kansas.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 10:58 AM (k3anH)

246 The Trojan Women Setting Fire to Their Fleet
Claude Lorrain (Claude Gellée) French
ca. 1643
On view at The Met Fifth Avenue in Gallery 623

In part, "The subject must have particularly appealed to the man who commissioned it. Cardinal Girolamo Farnese was a prelate who returned to Rome in 1643 after years of itinerant service combating Protestantism on the pope’s behalf in present-day Switzerland."

🤨

It's a well done painting. Very nice, but would likely pass hanging it. Thanks.

Posted by: L - No nic... at October 14, 2026 10:58 AM (NFX2v)

247 Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House, is also out on the campaign trail at rallies for critical House seats.

Only Thune seems to be sitting on his ass, probably fortunately as he is about as inspiring as a dead fish.

Posted by: whig at October 14, 2026 10:58 AM (E4rtv)

248 240 i'm a little clip
with my wire bent back

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:58 AM (Bep7s)

249 Great... But it's worrisome that he has to go to some States I never expected to be in play...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 14, 2026 10:57 AM (+gK6I)

A lot of suburban districts in red states are in play.
That's mainly where he's aiming it seems.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:59 AM (6ydKt)

250 243 no love for jeeves?

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 10:59 AM (Bep7s)

251 Got a stick of Beeman's?
Today is the date the sound barrier was broken, in 1947.
We got us a problem with this li'l-ol' Machmeter.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 14, 2026 10:59 AM (zdLoL)

252 Every time a white guy from the C-Suite retires from Microsoft they replace him with an Indian.

Yeah. I continue to think strategically that Satya Nadella's doing a decent job for MS, but the colonization really sucks.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 14, 2026 11:00 AM (2ocoG)

253 >250 and with no boobs or dog comments.

Posted by: L - No nic... at October 14, 2026 11:01 AM (NFX2v)

254 The Trojan women are angry that men on the ships said they dress like whores.

Nobody's business but the Turks I guess.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 14, 2026 11:01 AM (qwx/I)

255 Nood.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 14, 2026 11:01 AM (NcvvS)

256 Minkey nood.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 14, 2026 11:01 AM (2e8h4)

257 Great... But it's worrisome that he has to go to some States I never expected to be in play...

The states he's going to aren't necessarily in play. There are additional considerations happening, like "how easy will it be for a tranny shooter at this location".

Posted by: Ian S. at October 14, 2026 11:02 AM (2ocoG)

258 Great... But it's worrisome that he has to go to some States I never expected to be in play...
Posted by: It's me donna at October 14, 2026 10:57 AM (+gK6I)

Unless they're focusing on blue enclaves in red states that suddenly are in play?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 14, 2026 11:02 AM (pQn0f)

259 251 "aids in digestion"

Posted by: cmeat at October 14, 2026 11:03 AM (Bep7s)

260 A lot of suburban districts in red states are in play.
That's mainly where he's aiming it seems.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 10:59 AM (6ydKt)

Montana has 2 seats both mainly rural. Montana doesn’t really have suburbs. There’s no spinning away having to defend Montana either in the house or senate. If Montana is in play it’s not a good sign. Trump won the state by 20 points in 2024.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 11:04 AM (k3anH)

261 245 That list of states ain’t a good sign. Montana should be a lock. As should Kansas.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz

Trump is going to Montana and Kansas more to seal the deal than because of worry. Some states, Trump might create issues like for Steve Hilton or Bruce Blakeman.

It is all about turnout now and I think Trump wants a smashing red wave type midterm. EV and mail in ballots so far show no sign of a blue wave and those are hard data points and this is apparent now in multiple states. Trump's rallies seem to be unique in that they actually drive turnout while most pols just have boring photo op types designed more with the audience as a backdrop.

So far, VA is one of the exceptions showing engaged Democrats but Trump might be a hindrance there because of all the laid off govt workers and contractors. Two important swing House races there. New York is another one but Blakeman in the governor's office and the awful performances of Holchul and Leticia in debates is affecting US House races there. Lawler and there are two Dems suddenly appearing in trouble there.

That is the problem with Dems, they gerrymandered for a blue wave for the midterms.

Posted by: whig at October 14, 2026 11:06 AM (E4rtv)

262 If Montana is in play it’s not a good sign. Trump won the state by 20 points in 2024.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortezz at October 14, 2026 11:04 AM (k3anH)

Minnesota is polling at D+1.

That world can not exist in a world where Montana is in play.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 14, 2026 11:06 AM (gLYp7)

263 Yeah. I continue to think strategically that Satya Nadella's doing a decent job for MS, but the colonization really sucks.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 14, 2026 11:00 AM (2ocoG)

He went along with the Cloud wave like his competitors and has made money there, but the hardware division, 'Surface', division is just coasting along after many years, Xbox is so screwed up nobody is sure if it'll survive for many more years, Bing is still an afterthought for most people, and they have turned Windows (their biggest product and brand) into the most hated operating system of all time, with very good reasons for that since they've turned it into an annoying spyware that runs on hundreds of millions of computers across the world.

He hasn't crashed Microsoft but I do believe they could've done better over the past decade or so.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 11:06 AM (6ydKt)

264 187 No, because AI will eventually invent a new coding language that's more efficient for machines but humans are unable to understand it.

that's crazy talk

Posted by: COLOSSUS at October 14, 2026 11:06 AM (oY6Yp)

265 He hasn't crashed Microsoft but I do believe they could've done better over the past decade or so.

Absolutely true, which is why I said "decent". He's still an upgrade from Steve "Flop Sweat" Ballmer though.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 14, 2026 11:09 AM (2ocoG)

266 This is why he's in Montana:

Montana’s 1st Congressional District is a tight race between Republican Aaron Flint and Democrat Sam Forstag, with recent polls showing a statistical tie. The Cook Political Report and Sabato’s Crystal Ball have downgraded the race from "Likely Republican" to "Lean Republican," while Silver Bulletin gives Forstag a 38.8% chance of winning.

The 2nd District is safe R.

I don't know enough about Montana politics to talk about the reasons the race is close there, but Trump having to campaign there isn't a big warning flare. He's just trying to get Republicans to actually go to the polls in a mid-term for a 2nd term president.

That's a notoriously bad time for any incumbent in the same party as the president in Congress.

Most presidents have never campaigned like Trump is right now for a mid-term.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 14, 2026 11:13 AM (6ydKt)

267 Fun history fact of Trump and Alaska

President Trump said Alaska is very special to him because his grandfather was there a long time ago, left his mark, and the area has always been important to him.

His grandfather, Friedrich Trump, left Germany at 16, went to the Klondike Gold Rush via Alaska, and made his money running restaurants and hotels for the miners in the Yukon (not by digging for gold).

He was a rough and tumble frontier businessman, left with a fortune, and eventually settled in New York - where his son later built the family’s real-estate empire.

"They were thinking about canceling. They said, sir, you’re very busy. This is very tough. I said, where am I going? Alaska. Eight hours. You think I’d ever cancel? I don’t cancel for Alaska. I don’t cancel!" 😂

"My grandfather was up here a long time ago. I don’t know. He was great, but he had a little bit of a reputation, I will be honest, as did most of the people that came up here. 😅 He was a little rough, but he was great. They remember. He left his trail. But he was here a long time ago. A special place to me. Very important place to me."

Posted by: whig at October 14, 2026 11:59 AM (E4rtv)

268 Most presidents have never campaigned like Trump is right now for a mid-term.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

I have never seen this in modern political history. And I saw a reason why, Trump has been extremely effective in mobilizing his voters over time since 2016-18. Probably the closest comparison would be FDR but FDR never had the kind of flak that Trump gets from teh press nor did FDR have the stamina to do what Trump has done with rallies around the US now for a decade!

Posted by: whig at October 14, 2026 12:02 PM (E4rtv)

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