Tucker Carlson Says that Britain Did Not Gain from Defeating Hitler; When It's Put to Him That If They Had Not Beaten Hitler They'd All be Speaking German, He Says "So What?" and Adds "At Least They'd be Speaking a European Language"

The demon scratches infected him with full-blown diabolism.

Jon Levine
@LevineJonathan
20m
Have to say I watched the full Tucker-Rees Mogg discussion and I've never seen Carlson so publicly owned in my entire life -- It was significantly more brutal than Crossfire / Jon Stewart

Tucker saying he wishes Hitler had won World War II was absolutely on my 2026 bingo card https://t.co/ln3pVWye5A
— Eitan Fischberger (@EFischberger) October 2, 2026

Somehow the Hitler apologists and the Putin apologists tend to be the same people. https://t.co/LRbzzKYQio
— Yaroslav Trofimov (@yarotrof) October 3, 2026

Tucker Carlson said it was wrong to fight Hitler because Britain wound up losing her overseas colonies.

That's a morally deranged argument.

I should also point out that this is entirely an argument pressed with all vigor by Adolph Hitler. It is true that Hitler repeatedly said he didn't want to go to war with Britain, though he said that with the threat that if Britain didn't allow him to capture all of Europe from the Urals to the Atlantic, he would go to war with Britain.

The pitch Hitler made to the UK, repeatedly, was that if the UK gave Hitler a free hand in conquering Europe, Hitler would allow the UK to maintain its overseas colonies and might even help. Of course, Hitler intended to capture all of the overseas colonies of the European countries he conquered. He was reassuring the UK that if they let him take over Europe and all of the overseas colonies maintained by Europe, he would not take further action to capture the UK's overseas colonies.

Of course... Hitler had repeatedly promised to not invade Czechloslovakia and then Poland and Russia and he had lied about all of that, so I'm not sure why Tucker Carlson keeps saying "but Hilter said, Hitler said" as if Hitler's word means anything at all. Except for that fact that Carlson is clearly a fan of Hitler.

Tucker Carlson defends Hitler’s decision to invade Poland, arguing that Britain shouldn’t have fought the Nazis:
“The UK had nothing to do with it, at all, and they destroyed their empire and their country fighting this war that they still pretend was a good idea, but it wasn’t” https://t.co/P5HgeMizlx
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) October 2, 2026

This is also a strange and childlike claim because Germany also lost of all of its overseas colonies after the war (and they had a bunch). (As did France, Spain, Belgium, Italy, etc. -- one might begin to suspect that the age of empires and colonies was drawing to a close, and would not have survived much past the 1950s with or without WWII.)

Correction: Bulg points out my error-- Germany lost its overseas colonies after World War One, not World War Two.

But apparently the UK is to be condemned for giving up its domination of third-world peoples just to make war on Hitler, whereas Hitler is excused for losing its own domination of third-world peoples just to make war on Czechoslovakia, and Poland, and Russia, and Belgium, and Norway, and Denmark, and of course, ultimately the UK.

It's the same shifting standards again that communists apply to the Soviet Union, only Tucker Carlson is increasingly showing his Nazi ass by performing the same service to Hitler.

Here's more of those shifting standards: The UK should be condemned for fighting Hitler but Hitler, Tucker Carlson states, had a solid "justification" for invading Poland and must not be condemned for doing so.

Tucker also continues insisting that it was wrong to end WWII in the Pacific immediately with the dropping of two atomic bombs, claiming that it's always wrong to take innocent lives.

Is it? As Max Nordau points out, Tucker consistently justifies and defends Hitler and Putin taking innocent lives, saying that their starting of wars was just acceptable Great Powers jockeying.

But America and of course Israel are not allowed the same "Great Powers jockeying for advantage" leeway; no, for America and Israel, the standard is you must never harm an innocent life, ever, and if you do, you must be condemned forever.

Note of course that this is the same kind of standards-shifting communists do when they attack America for, say, spiriting Nazi scientists to America to assist in our rocket program, while justifying Russia's doing of the exact same thing. After all, Russia was just engaging in some Great Power jockeying for advantage.

🚨 Extraordinary exchange between Tucker Carlson and Jacob Rees-Mogg on Hiroshima.
Rees-Mogg says the bombs were justified because they ended the war and saved far more lives than it took. Carlson refuses to weigh the lives saved at all. When Rees-Mogg says WWII couldn't have been fought without innocent people being killed, Carlson's answer is "I don't know, no one tried."
Tucker Carlson's two rules of war:
1. Never do anything that could cause the death of an innocent, even if the action would ultimately save more lives.
2. Unless you're Nazi Germany or Russia. In the same interview, Hitler "did not want war," and Russia invading Ukraine is "the state of play for all great powers."
He is condescending the whole way through: "So you can behave like an animal once the war starts." "I don't even understand what you're saying."
Then he asks, disingenuously, whether it's Christian to kill children. "I'm not Catholic, so I'm not an expert," he says, right after ruling for himself that the bombing fails Aquinas' just-war test.
— Max 📟 (@MaxNordau) October 5, 2026

Below is a speech from Hitler in which he openly declares his intentions for world domination.
“No people had more right to the concept of ruling the world (Weltherrschaft) than the German people. We would have had this right, and no other nation.”
(Stormy applause)
"Not England, not Spain, not Holland - no other nation could have had an inborn right, on the basis of its energy and competence, and also its numerical strength, to claim the domination of the world.
In the first division of the world, we fell short, but we stand now at the beginning of a new great shake-up of this world. Today, some people claim that we are entering an age of peace, but I have to say to them: Gentlemen, you have a poor understanding of the horoscope of our times, which points, as never before, not to peace but to war.”
Adolf Hitler, addressing his followers on 5 November 1930 in the Rhenish town of Mannheim.
The fact that Tucker Carlson is historically illiterate isn't surprising. What is harder to dismiss is how consistently that illiteracy manifests in making Hitler and the Nazis look better.
— Nathan Livingstone (MilkBarTV) (@TheMilkBarTV) October 2, 2026

Max Klinger
@MaxE2review
Oct 3
Here's a quote from Mehdi Hasan, arguably the most prominent Islamo-leftist influencer in the West: 'A lot of Muslims and Arab Americans... see him [Carlson] now as this great champion of Palestine...Wherever I go, literally, wherever I go in this country, I do a lot of live events, I do a lot of public events, people come up to me, 'When are you going on Tucker Carlson? When are you going to do an event with Tucker Carlson? Why don't you do a collab with Tucker Carlson? We love Tucker Carlson.' Wherever I go, people ask me more about Tucker Carlson, even in my own family, than they ask me about my wife and kids."

By the way: The Groyper/Hitler-adoring pseudoright keeps arguing that we must embrace a little bit of Naziism to attract younger voters, whom they assert are super Hitler lovers.

It's not true. Obviously.

Phil Magness
@PhilWMagness
1h
If you wish to understand the Groyper/Tucker Carlson phenomenon with data, this poll is very instructive.
- Yes, there's a rehabilitation of Hitler afoot, especially among younger people, and it should alarm you.
- That said, the so-called "Zoomerwaffen" is also a tiny and extremely disliked minority of young people: only 2% of 18-29 year olds, which maxes out at 14% if you include the Groyper-curious "somewhat favorable."
- Hitlerism is still extremely disliked among a 66% supermajority of Zoomers, and that percentage approaches unanimity among Gen Xers and Boomers.
- When stories break about "groyper interns" and Hitler chatgroup leaks implicating DC staffers on the right, it's not because there's a hidden voter army of these sleazeballs invading the conservative camp. Rather, it's the consequence of certain irresponsible persons on the right who have both failed to screen out the bigots from their hiring processes and, in some cases, have actively courted applicants from this tiny but vocal postliberal sewer.
What this means: if you hear people defending Tucker Carlson's talking points from the Jacob Rees-Mogg debate, or if you hear someone arguing that these sorts of viewpoints are representative of what the younger generation wants, you are almost certainly listening to someone who lives inside an echo chamber (or fuehrersewer) that is completely detached from political reality. And more often than not, the people who want to cater to the Zoomerwaffen crowd are engaged in postliberal wishcasting about an emergent right wing radicalism among the youth that only exists on its extreme periphery. That right wing radical element is also utterly despised by an overwhelming majority of young people and everyone else.

Accurate:

fe Heydel-Mankoo
@RafHM

7h
Here is what many are missing:
Tucker Carlson does not believe much of what he says
He is a clickbait grifter manipulating his audience to maximise earnings
Evidence: When he was at Fox he was 100% Team Trump & said the 2020 election was stolen
But, in private, emails and messages revealed that Carlson detested Trump and thought the idea Trump had won the 2020 election was a ridiculous conspiracy theory and accused Trump's lawyers of "lying".*
"I hate Trump passionately", he said, calling him "demonic". Yet, on camera Carlson was Trump's biggest cheerleader.
He is up to the same tricks again.
Lacking any scruples or principles whatsoever, he will parrot whatever line maximises engagement with his content, no matter how damaging the consequences.
He has calculated that being pro-Putin, pro-Hitler and most recently pro-Islam will generate more revenue than if he is anti-Putin, anti-Hitler and anti-Islam like most others.
This makes him a dangerous menace, as there are so many gullible people who believe what he says.

Examples at the end of the original post.

He's obviously a shapeshifting grifter but I don't think you can say "he doesn't believe what he's saying." I think he does.

I also think that he's a fairly stupid man with a imbecilic teenager's capacity for complete self-reinvention every half-year. Now I'm into Backstreet Boys. Now I'm into N'Sync and Backstreet Boys are lame. Now I'm into Green Day and all that kid stuff is for babies. Now I'm into real punk like Butthole Surfers and Green Day is for posers.

Except, you know, with more Hitler Adoration.

A serious man ought not be so promiscuous and changeable in his core beliefs. He changes his beliefs like a girl changes clothes.

"Clevinger was already on the way, half out of his chair with emotion, his eyes moist and his lips quivering and pale. As always occurred when he quarreled over principles in which he believed passionately, he would end up gasping furiously for air and blinking back bitter tears of conviction. There were many principles in which Clevinger believed passionately. He was crazy."

-- Catch-22

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:16 PM

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1 Yeet!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 05, 2026 12:15 PM (W2Pud)

2 carlson is weird

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 05, 2026 12:16 PM (CWTWj)

3 I think one can make the argument that it was not defeating the Nazis- it's rather how the british people (and this is on them, not necessarily their leaders at this point) reacted to the victory: full on welfare state.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:17 PM (Y/06r)

4 Mornin', nurse!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 05, 2026 12:17 PM (FAGAJ)

5 Hitler was misunderstood.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:17 PM (1ikK2)

6 "At Least They'd be Speaking a European Language"

That's darkly funny given England now speaks "allahu ackbar".

Posted by: Ian S. at October 05, 2026 12:17 PM (2ocoG)

7 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at October 05, 2026 12:17 PM (hG5L0)

8 Here is what many are missing:

Tucker Carlson does not believe much of what he says

He is a clickbait grifter manipulating his audience to maximise earnings

There it is.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2026 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

9 Tucker gets paid a lot of money to say stupid shit.

He's apparently good at it too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 05, 2026 12:17 PM (RORbl)

10 2 carlson is weird
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 05, 2026 12:16 PM (CWTWj)

He's a retard mixing concepts that have some merit and going for Political Edgelord.

He's about a half step away from adopting a leather bomber jacket and fedora.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:18 PM (Y/06r)

11 Lenin said socialism was a waypoint to communism.

Posted by: Eromero at October 05, 2026 12:18 PM (LHPAg)

12 This is also a strange and childlike claim because Germany also lost of all of its overseas colonies after the war (and they had a bunch).

Ace, Germany lost its overseas colonies after WWI, not WWII.

Posted by: Bulg at October 05, 2026 12:18 PM (77rzZ)

13 Britain should have let the Germans annihilate Russia.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:18 PM (1ikK2)

14 I also think that he's a fairly stupid man with a imbecilic teenager's capacity for complete self-reinvention every half-year. Now I'm into Backstreet Boys. Now I'm into N'Sync and Backstreet Boys are lame. Now I'm into Green Day and all that kid stuff is for babies. Now I'm into real punk like Butthole Surfers and Green Day is for posers.

LOL. Is there a butthole surfers song that was actually popular that I would know. I literally have gone 30 years just giggling at the name.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:19 PM (Y/06r)

15 He's a retard mixing concepts that have some merit and going for Political Edgelord.

He's about a half step away from ~~adopting a leather bomber jacket and fedora~~ joining The Dispatch.

FIFY.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 05, 2026 12:19 PM (2ocoG)

16 you stole my yeet nurse! happy almost b-day

Posted by: DanMan at October 05, 2026 12:20 PM (8uzBS)

17
"Tucker Carlson Says...."

No need to take anything after that seriously.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2026 12:20 PM (eRlcH)

18 - Yes, there's a rehabilitation of Hitler afoot, especially among younger people, and it should alarm you.

This is absolutely amazing to me, but I also completely agree.

I believe that it's directly downstream from the suicidal empathy the left is imposing on people. Once you accept that the poor, put-upon palestinians are being oppressed by those Tricksy Jews, it's not a big leap to get to 'and those Tricksly Jews need to be stopped! I wonder if there are any historical examples we can draw from to figure out how?!'

And here we are.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 05, 2026 12:20 PM (gLYp7)

19 Careful now.

Tucker has real electoral power.

He endorsed six candidates in the Republican primaries, and they all won.

*receives note*

I have just been informed that all of them lost embarrassingly. That the guy Tucker endorsed in the FL governor's race, James Fishback, thinks that H-1B can be ended by executive fiat because he's so retarded.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 05, 2026 12:20 PM (42WUB)

20 Leather jackets are too heavy for the amount of warmth they provide.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:20 PM (1ikK2)

21 Hitler was just stalling when he said he didn't want war with GB. He knew war was inevitable when he broke the Munich Agreement.

Posted by: polynikes at October 05, 2026 12:20 PM (KC5Lt)

22 >>>Ace, Germany lost its overseas colonies after WWI, not WWII.

whops!

Posted by: ace at October 05, 2026 12:21 PM (1wjle)

23 Well, the Brits are going to be a muslim nation soon so...

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 05, 2026 12:21 PM (iOpI2)

24 8 Here is what many are missing:

Tucker Carlson does not believe much of what he says

He is a clickbait grifter manipulating his audience to maximise earnings

There it is.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2026 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

Ahh, Ace has finally come all the way over to my thinking...except when he then says he thinks Tucker belives it...

Nah, Tucker just belives there's a sucker born every minute and he can keep ripping off that sucker...over and over and over again...b/c he wears a bowtie and speaks in highfalutin words...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 05, 2026 12:21 PM (tOcjL)

25 "Lacking any scruples or principles whatsoever, he will parrot whatever line maximises engagement with his content, no matter how damaging the consequences."

That's true of probably 95% of these media personalities and influencers. They are in it purely for the money and fame.

They will claim their grandmothers are zionist pigs and genociders if it will make them money.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 05, 2026 12:21 PM (iFTx/)

26 At Least They'd be Speaking a European Language"

Hmmm. Well....

Hmmm.

Posted by: man at October 05, 2026 12:22 PM (+imBs)

27
Yes, there's a rehabilitation of Hitler afoot, especially among younger people, and it should alarm you.

__________

In a race with the rehabilitation of Communism.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2026 12:22 PM (eRlcH)

28 LOL. Is there a butthole surfers song that was actually popular that I would know. I literally have gone 30 years just giggling at the name.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:19 PM (Y/06r)

Pouring like an avalanche, coming down the mountain.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 05, 2026 12:22 PM (gLYp7)

29 Hitler has made a come back because the left has embraced anti-semitism.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2026 12:22 PM (sKqQm)

30 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2026 12:22 PM (jnnXY)

31 He would have a defensible position if he was talking about WWI instead of WWII.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 05, 2026 12:22 PM (JzUSu)

32 Britain honestly would have been better off if it never colonized south asia and africa.

They are being colonized now themselves by those regions

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2026 12:22 PM (sKqQm)

33 Good news: Tucker is not a crypto-nazi
Bad news: He's gone full Nazi...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 05, 2026 12:22 PM (l3cgK)

34

Did he get into a car accident or something?

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz PhD Esq at October 05, 2026 12:23 PM (VuTBl)

35 Did they have any good overseas colonies? The British and the assmelling French had most of those.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:23 PM (1ikK2)

36 belives equals believes...although maybe I should make a new word with belives, like chillax became...

lives like and believes...

Tucker lives like and believes (aka belives) there's a sucker born every minute...

Here's hoping I've also now screwed up AI...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 05, 2026 12:23 PM (tOcjL)

37 LOL. Is there a butthole surfers song that was actually popular that I would know. I literally have gone 30 years just giggling at the name.

Imagine getting to the end of your life, and concluding that your biggest achievement was coming up with the name "Butthole Surfers".

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2026 12:23 PM (Riz8t)

38 ----Yes, there's a rehabilitation of Hitler afoot, especially among younger people, and it should alarm you.----

The rehab is all about the Joos and 'Palestine'.
Hitler was supported by the A-Rab mooslims.

Posted by: polynikes at October 05, 2026 12:23 PM (KC5Lt)

39 Don't mention the war.

Posted by: Basil Fawlty at October 05, 2026 12:24 PM (wVcYX)

40 WWI was absurd.

A fight over who would hold sway over the worthless Balkans and colonize the Africa and the Pacific islands.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2026 12:24 PM (sKqQm)

41 13 Britain should have let the Germans annihilate Russia.
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:18 PM (1ikK2)

The problem here is that Europe becomes a MUCH harder nut to crack. I am trying to remember numbers on the fly, but there was a vast commitment of forces to Barbarossa. Something like 300(?) divisions. Let's say you actually can take Moscow and cap Stalin in winter '41, spring '42, then all of those divisions (planes, tanks, men) become available to bring back west. Plus add in that the fuel issue the germans always dealt with is gone from the caucaus oil fields. So they can increasingly mechanize...

Yeah, not a great scenario, even if it would have gotten Stalin down. BUT, it would have also raised the likelyhood of a European usage of nukes.

It's a fun scenario to game out though. Defeat all communism/socialism/fascism at one time, when you have the will and men and material to do it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:24 PM (Y/06r)

42 Wow. I guess we are at the digging phase now.

Posted by: Piper at October 05, 2026 12:24 PM (ZdaMQ)

43 Cucker Tarleton can fuck off into space.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at October 05, 2026 12:24 PM (ENA4W)

44 We coulda had Madagascar for about 2 infantry companies in WW2.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:24 PM (1ikK2)

45
Tucker gets paid a lot of money to say stupid shit.

He's apparently good at it too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

===============

Who *are* Tucker's followers? Which side of the political spectrum do they come from?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 05, 2026 12:24 PM (mmrXZ)

46 Did he get into a car accident or something?"

Patton?

Posted by: man at October 05, 2026 12:24 PM (+imBs)

47 >>>21 Hitler was just stalling when he said he didn't want war with GB. He knew war was inevitable when he broke the Munich Agreement.

yes, he was lying about everything. He had a sequence of conquest in mind, but knew he could never win without quickly knocking out some countries and keeping other countries out of the war by signing non-aggression pacts he never intended to honor. The obvious example is his non-aggression pact with the Soviet Union -- conquering the Soviet Union for "lebensraumen" was always central to his plan for conquest, but he knew he could not fight Russia and France at the same time. So he signed the pact with Russia, then defeated France, and then almost immediately invaded Russia.

I'm not weeping for Stalin here, I'm saying Hitler's promises mean as much as whatever Tucker Carlson claims to believe this month.

Posted by: ace at October 05, 2026 12:25 PM (1wjle)

48 Trump was Hitler, now it's Putin. N.A.T.O. is Hitler. The E.U. is Hitler. We all are Hilter!!!!!

Posted by: connected and litigious at October 05, 2026 12:25 PM (cS1cw)

49 Yes, there's a rehabilitation of Hitler afoot, especially among younger people, and it should alarm you.

Say what you want about Hitler, but he did kill Hitler.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 05, 2026 12:25 PM (FAGAJ)

50
Did they have any good overseas colonies? The British and the assmelling French had most of those.
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:23 PM (1ikK2)

___________

1) Wilhelmine pretensions aside, Germany was never going to be a great naval power.

2) Bismarck thought colonies were a stupid idea.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2026 12:25 PM (eRlcH)

51 Reading Winston Churchill's The Gathering Storm actually thought this morning why did England fight the National Socialists then turn around and become Socialists anyway?

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2026 12:25 PM (jnnXY)

52 Whatever passionate argument Carlson might make his antisemitism is a tell, he has no problem sacrificing large populations of people in favor of totalitarianism. And he really doesn't care which kind, be it Hitler, Pol Pot or Mao.

He hates Trump, and has always hated Trump, because Trump is the only politician in America (probably) who truly supports our Constitution and hates totalitarians everywhere.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (l6BsO)

53 Did they have any good overseas colonies? The British and the assmelling French had most of those.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Some of the Pacific islands they had were pretty nice.

Posted by: Bulg at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (77rzZ)

54 What is the European language thing? What does he mean? Not African?

Posted by: ... at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (FnbEu)

55 I think Tucker also enjoys the exposure and attention his rants get.... in addition to the money made off of rage baiting clicks. If it's an act, bravo. If not, the dude's cheese has slipped way, way off the cracker.

Maybe start an effort to have him examined?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (RORbl)

56 Leather jackets are too heavy for the amount of warmth they provide.
Posted by: Boss Moss

It's not the warmth, it's the +1 to Armor Class.

Posted by: mikeski at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (VHUov)

57 WWI was absurd"

Pretty much, yeah.

Posted by: man at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (+imBs)

58 Nein nein nein.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (1ikK2)

59 and while he's invading Russia he is of course pitching the idea of a world controlled by the Anglo-Saxon nations of the UK, USA, and Germany -- just because he wanted to keep us on the sidelines as he defeated the lesser powers.

"But Hitler said, Hitler said!"

Hitler said a lot of things, kid.

Posted by: ace at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (1wjle)

60 Tucker also continues insisting that it was wrong to end WWII in the Pacific immediately with the dropping of two atomic bombs, claiming that it's always wrong to take innocent lives.

I, along with millions of descendants of those who would have died in Japan in a long, drawn-out war of attrition over the Japanese Islands say, heartily to Fucker Qatarlson: "Fuck You, Asshole."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (l3cgK)

61 It's odd that Cucker would choose this subject to pontificate about.

Probably 75% of his audience has no idea what he's talking about. They don't know the history of the last 5 years, let alone what happened 75 years ago involving geopolitical maneuverings between Hitler and UK.

I assume this is really just a dog whistle that says "HITLER GOOD, NOT REALLY THE BAD GUY."

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (iFTx/)

62 The obvious example is his non-aggression pact with the Soviet Union -- conquering the Soviet Union for "lebensraumen" was always central to his plan for conquest

Lebensraumen? Is that a type of quick-cooking noodles?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (Riz8t)

63 You can find lefties nowadays arguing Trump is Hitler AND that Hitler wasn't as bad a history claims

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (sKqQm)

64 This Hitler guy sounds suspect. Keep an eye on him.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (nEUC6)

65 >>Did he get into a car accident or something?

Or a stroke or something.

Posted by: ace at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (1wjle)

66 We coulda had Madagascar for about 2 infantry companies in WW2.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Well yeah, but then we'd own Madagascar...

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (ENA4W)

67 Rees-Mogg? Scion of candy-synthesizer empire?

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (wVcYX)

68 Reading Winston Churchill's The Gathering Storm actually thought this morning why did England fight the National Socialists then turn around and become Socialists anyway?
Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2026 12:25 PM (jnnXY)
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Because they thought income inequality could be solved by socialism.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (l6BsO)

69 >>>Say what you want about Hitler, but he did kill Hitler.

lol. good old joke.

Posted by: ace at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (1wjle)

70
63 You can find lefties nowadays arguing Trump is Hitler AND that Hitler wasn't as bad a history claims

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (sKqQm)

========

"The only part of Nazism that was really was the Jew hate. Also, I hate all the Jews."
-Free Palestine

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (42WUB)

71 He has been put up to this by people who need everyone to know that "both sides" have a problem with Jews.

Doesn't mean he's not a willing participant, but he is working for people who want him doing it.

Posted by: ... at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (FnbEu)

72 bulg, I added your correction.

Posted by: ace at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (1wjle)

73 Bismarck thought colonies were a stupid idea"

Well, he was a herring...

Posted by: man at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (+imBs)

74 Better than Diego Garcia.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (1ikK2)

75 61 It's odd that Cucker would choose this subject to pontificate about.

Probably 75% of his audience has no idea what he's talking about. They don't know the history of the last 5 years, let alone what happened 75 years ago involving geopolitical maneuverings between Hitler and UK.

I assume this is really just a dog whistle that says "HITLER GOOD, NOT REALLY THE BAD GUY."
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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That is exactly why Qatarlson is doing that. Most people living today are ill educated in history and so Qatarlson is exploiting that with historical nonsense to get a niche audience.

Posted by: whig at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (E4rtv)

76 55 I think Tucker also enjoys the exposure and attention his rants get.... in addition to the money made off of rage baiting clicks. If it's an act, bravo. If not, the dude's cheese has slipped way, way off the cracker.

Maybe start an effort to have him examined?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (RORbl)

And Democrats, likely paying him to get more and more nutty, like holding Tucker up as an R spokesman to scare US voters...the left pays him to be the new David Duke now...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (tOcjL)

77 Hitler was supported by the A-Rab mooslims.

It doesn't get pointed out enough that the Arabic language version of Mein Kampf is a perpetual best seller to this day. And you thought Muzzies couldn't read.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (2ocoG)

78 2) Bismarck thought colonies were a stupid idea.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Yep. But pro-colony sentiment was so strong that not even the Iron Chancellor could buck it.

Posted by: Bulg at October 05, 2026 12:28 PM (77rzZ)

79 >>>Tucker Carlson said it was wrong to fight Hitler because Britain wound up losing her overseas colonies.

>>>That's a morally deranged argument.

I disagree with the last sentence.

First and foremost, as you later point out, Britain was unlikely to have been able to keep her other possessions in a deal with Hitler. Hitler would have reneged later at a time more to Germany's advantage. So, morality aside, GB had other reasons to take on Hitler.

But it is hardly immoral for a nation to determine its own interests in waging war and determining that they don't want to be the world's savior if it runs against their own self-interests.

Neither GB (nor any other nation!!) owes it to the world to take on all the monsters running around loose.

Posted by: No Name Today at October 05, 2026 12:28 PM (8mulE)

80 62 The obvious example is his non-aggression pact with the Soviet Union -- conquering the Soviet Union for "lebensraumen" was always central to his plan for conquest

Lebensraumen? Is that a type of quick-cooking noodles?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (Riz8t)

Lots of sauerkraut in those noodles...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 05, 2026 12:28 PM (l3cgK)

81 I still can't get over how, when X updated their software and allowed everyone to see country of origin, and it showed that Candace, Tucker and all of their "vast online audience" is almost entirely Indian/Pakis and bots, not one, not a single "we must listen to them" crowd changed their tune.

Like, if their audience--the part that isn't fake--is just overseas literal Nazis, maybe they aren't important?

Note Well:
EE's big "Nazi Hunter" expose didn't go after a single one of these "conservatives" who actually are being supported, and are supporting, Nazis.
Those who seem to have a singular mission to make sure Republicans lose.
Just like EE.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 05, 2026 12:28 PM (3cUTc)

82 Hey you gimme back my hat!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM (NeYqv)

83 63 You can find lefties nowadays arguing Trump is Hitler AND that Hitler wasn't as bad a history claims

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2026 12:26 PM (sKqQm)

He loved animals. He must've been a good guy...
/sarc

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM (l3cgK)

84 why did England fight the National Socialists then turn around and become Socialists anyway"

The Judean People's Front meme....

Posted by: man at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM (+imBs)

85 Tucker also continues insisting that it was wrong to end WWII in the Pacific immediately with the dropping of two atomic bombs, claiming that it's always wrong to take innocent lives.

For every DAY that Japan continued to occupy lands not theirs, it has been estimated that roughly 10,000 civilians died. 10K. Every day. Ask Tucker to square that with his "concern" about using nukes, and presumably a preference for a slow blockade (which wouldn't have worked anyway).

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM (Riz8t)

86 In another generation's time they will be saying that WW2 was a hoax and didn't really happen. Rename it the "War of Allied Aggression."

So the American right are just openly Nazis now huh? Gotta give credit to the Nazis. We thought we'd beaten them. Turns out, they were just playing the long game.

He is basically saying being under Nazi rule is better than having brown immigrants come to the country. Same logic as 'spoiling the blood' comment by the prez.

He's preparing for a presidential run. His platform is going to be: Trump was great, until he wasn't. He fell to the deep state. So I will be all the good things you liked about trump (that's whatever you think it is) and none of the bad things.

Oh look, a right winger turned out to be a nazi. Real "fork found in kitchen" moment. Neo Nazis literally watch his show to learn how to say their talking points in ways that seem less overtly Nazi-ish.

He's a scumbag through and through

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM (t19vo)

87 Over in Merry olde England, some news person thought Tucker represented the GOP. We should be doing our best to ensure it is known far and wide Tucker is far more aligned with the left and we booted him to the curb for a reason.

Posted by: Piper at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM (ZdaMQ)

88 64 This Hitler guy sounds suspect. Keep an eye on him.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (nEUC6)

He talks purty, but I think he might be gay.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM (Y/06r)

89 Well yeah, but then we'd own Madagascar...
Posted by: Brother Tim

Which would be awesome. All the cool wildlife there.

Madagascar is on my bucket list.

Posted by: Bulg at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM (77rzZ)

90 Germany and Russia attacked Poland basically at the same time relatively speaking ( about a week later IIRC) . It still bugs me that Stalin was rewarded for basically doing the same thing Hitler did to kick off WW2. I understand why we subsequently allied with the USSR but don't understand why we gave away the store after the war was over. Patton was right again.

Posted by: polynikes at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (KC5Lt)

91 It doesn't get pointed out enough that the Arabic language version of Mein Kampf is a perpetual best seller to this day. And you thought Muzzies couldn't read.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (2ocoG)

They don't buy it to read; they buy it to place on the coffee table. Just like the Germans did.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (i9VX2)

92 After WWII the British voted Churchill out. As far as I know, this was one of the main reasons why the British colonial empire was lost.
The British were tired of fighting and of a war economy based on rationing.

Posted by: PG at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (+vT3S)

93 Lots of sauerkraut in those noodles...

Only if they're RFK Jr's noodles. Or so Rubio said when his wife outed him for eating Pop-Tarts.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (2ocoG)

94 Wilhelmine pretensions aside, Germany was never going to be a great naval power.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
________

Yet it was. Second largest navy in the world from about 1900 through the end of WW1.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (JzUSu)

95 > Is there a butthole surfers song that was actually popular that I would know.

This is probably their biggest hit:
https://youtu.be/d8XvxqKohyU

Posted by: bonhomme at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (mkw2N)

96 Better than Diego Garcia."

And has vanilla...

Posted by: man at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (+imBs)

97 69 >>>Say what you want about Hitler, but he did kill Hitler.

lol. good old joke.

Posted by: ace at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (1wjle)

Saw cartoon where someone was asking, "Why do you have a stature of Hitler?"
The other guy says, "No, it's a statue to the man who killed Hitler!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (l3cgK)

98 The Japs. We should have been nicer to the Japs and divided up China for the coolies, opium, whores and General Tso's chicken.

Plus we would have avoided Korea and Vietnam later on.

Posted by: Tucker Carlson at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (Al3kG)

99 Rees-Mogg is literally advocating for replacement of native English because they are Tommy Robinson types with embarrassing accents. If you are taking his side in any argument, you have lost the plot. Carlson is irrelevant at this point, but Rees-Mogg and his ruling class ilk are a grave danger.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at October 05, 2026 12:31 PM (wGerL)

100 13 Britain should have let the Germans annihilate Russia.
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:18 PM (1ikK2)
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Britain had zero influence over Germany's invasion success in Russia.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 05, 2026 12:31 PM (l6BsO)

101 For every DAY that Japan continued to occupy lands not theirs, it has been estimated that roughly 10,000 civilians died. 10K. Every day. Ask Tucker to square that with his "concern" about using nukes, and presumably a preference for a slow blockade (which wouldn't have worked anyway).
Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM (Riz8t)

10k per day seems... high. At the beginning, sure. No question. After a while though, areas get pacified. Is the stat an average?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:31 PM (Y/06r)

102 I just threw a spaghetti squash in the oven. I am starving and it’s smelling amazing.

Okay, back to the crazy that is Tucker.

Posted by: Piper at October 05, 2026 12:31 PM (ZdaMQ)

103 Okay, I'm confused....Hitler is now the "good" guy ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 05, 2026 12:31 PM (+gK6I)

104 77 Hitler was supported by the A-Rab mooslims.

It doesn't get pointed out enough that the Arabic language version of Mein Kampf is a perpetual best seller to this day. And you thought Muzzies couldn't read.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 05, 2026 12:27 PM (2ocoG)

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem made quite a few visits to Berlin...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 05, 2026 12:31 PM (l3cgK)

105 Hitler had a plan to send all the Jews to Madagascar. If only he had followed through. Madagascar would be an island paradise today with a kick ass Navy.

Posted by: polynikes at October 05, 2026 12:32 PM (KC5Lt)

106 92 After WWII the British voted Churchill out. As far as I know, this was one of the main reasons why the British colonial empire was lost.
The British were tired of fighting and of a war economy based on rationing.
Posted by: PG at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (+vT3S)

Heh. I think they stayed on rationing well into the 50s.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:32 PM (Y/06r)

107
Yep, after this, I'm going to officially predict that Tucker will soon go full-on Flat Earth/space-is-not-real.

That recent business about "what's up with all the letters they put in math with algebra" shows he is a blithering idiot, a trust fund kid pretending to be an intellectual.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 05, 2026 12:32 PM (w6EFb)

108 Rees-Mogg? Scion of candy-synthesizer empire?
Posted by: Count de Monet

Or one of the Beta Reticuli Rees-Moggs.

Posted by: mikeski at October 05, 2026 12:32 PM (VHUov)

109 So the American right are just openly Nazis now huh?

Remind me again which group of socialists are now anti-Joo.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2026 12:32 PM (Riz8t)

110 Well yeah, but then we'd own Madagascar...
Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing

You're a lemur hater!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 05, 2026 12:32 PM (u9Xr5)

111
Yet it was. Second largest navy in the world from about 1900 through the end of WW1.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (JzUSu)

____________

One that was largely penned up for most of the war.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2026 12:32 PM (eRlcH)

112 86 So the American right are just openly Nazis now huh? Gotta give credit to the Nazis. We thought we'd beaten them. Turns out, they were just playing the long game.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM (t19vo)

========

Yes.

They should treat the American right as Nazis and flee like the Jews fled Germany in 1933.

It's the only safe thing to do if Nazis are actually in control of the US federal government.

Renounce your citizenship (just $450), and go to Algeria.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 05, 2026 12:32 PM (42WUB)

113 About 40 years ago I heard some Christian preacher offhandedly say "I'm not sure we would be any worse off if Hitler had won" (or something like that). Never got what he meant exactly, but I think it was in the John Birch days, referring to the infiltration of the commies (as they marched through our institutions, and still are).

Certainly the DeepState is evil, but I can't see how Hitler would have been better than our current state. We are still at "war" with globalists and other totalitarians (Islam/CCP), but at least we can still fight against those evils.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 05, 2026 12:32 PM (vbXSk)

114 Madagascar is on my bucket list."

Friend of ours daughter went there with the Peace Corps. Managed to be assaulted, beaten, and raped by a local "leader".

YMMV

Posted by: man at October 05, 2026 12:32 PM (+imBs)

115 Just stay out of it until the end like WW1.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:33 PM (1ikK2)

116 Ace, Germany lost its overseas colonies after WWI, not WWII.

Germany did lose all their European colonies after WWII.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 05, 2026 12:33 PM (6wmZc)

117 >>>Ace, Germany lost its overseas colonies after WWI, not WWII.

whops!
--
No, the Italians lost Ethiopia as well.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 05, 2026 12:33 PM (3cUTc)

118 See? Reddit also thinks we still like him.

Posted by: Piper at October 05, 2026 12:33 PM (ZdaMQ)

119 Hes not crazy, he's an asshole. Always was.

And I *like* kooky opinions. Kooky opinions can be highly informative.

This guy is just a dick. A crazy person could cease being a dick if only temporarily and by chance. This dick can't.

Posted by: ... at October 05, 2026 12:33 PM (FnbEu)

120 Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:31 PM (Y/06r)

To this day I don't think Filipinos care much for Japan.

Posted by: polynikes at October 05, 2026 12:33 PM (KC5Lt)

121 109 So the American right are just openly Nazis now huh?

Remind me again which group of socialists are now anti-Joo.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2026 12:32 PM (Riz8t)

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"Nazism wasn't socialism because fascism is totes different. And hating Zionists in all their forms everywhere is so different from hating Jews!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 05, 2026 12:33 PM (42WUB)

122 After WWII the British voted Churchill out. As far as I know, this was one of the main reasons why the British colonial empire was lost.
The British were tired of fighting and of a war economy based on rationing.
Posted by: PG

The war with Germany was over, but the war with Japan was still going strong.

And rationing didn't end until sometime in the 50s.

Posted by: Bulg at October 05, 2026 12:33 PM (77rzZ)

123 "I guess I'm just a secret Nazi."
-Tucker Carlson

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Naaaaaaah, bro.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 05, 2026 06:18 AM (RIvkX)

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (RIvkX)

124 I was thinking that Tucker was just nuts but I now think he's demonic...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (+gK6I)

125 why did England fight the National Socialists then turn around and become Socialists anyway

They turned before WW2, but it became much more obvious afterwards. Most of Europe decided in the early 1900s that industrialization would improve things so much they could have a 4 day work week and big social welfare programs and whatnot.

This is why they were never the leaders in computers, semiconductors, the Internet, or AI, and why a lot of their manufacturing is fleeing.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (2ocoG)

126 118 See? Reddit also thinks we still like him.

Posted by: Piper at October 05, 2026 12:33 PM (ZdaMQ)

=====

They also think that police kill tens of thousands of unarmed black men a year for sport and get away with it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (42WUB)

127 Future headline:

Tucker defends Cain. Says Abel had it coming.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (u73oe)

128 90 Germany and Russia attacked Poland basically at the same time relatively speaking ( about a week later IIRC) . It still bugs me that Stalin was rewarded for basically doing the same thing Hitler did to kick off WW2. I understand why we subsequently allied with the USSR but don't understand why we gave away the store after the war was over. Patton was right again.

Posted by: polynikes at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (KC5Lt)

Yes, it was an "enemy of my enemy" situation, even though earlier those two countries had been allied.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (l3cgK)

129 Leave my friend Tucker alone!

Posted by: JD Vance at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (/OKHJ)

130 OT: trying something different with shrugs. You hold the weights outward from body at maybe a 30 degree angle and shrug up and inward like your arms are two legs of a triangle. This does hit harder.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (Y/06r)

131 No Penguin Expresses yet.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (1ikK2)

132 Rees-Mogg"

Wasn't he in "The Marching Morons"?

Posted by: man at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (+imBs)

133 10k per day seems... high. At the beginning, sure. No question. After a while though, areas get pacified. Is the stat an average?

It includes military action against civilians, starvation, diseases that would have been controlled, etc.

I find the figure of roughly 3 and half million per year completely plausible, if not a bit low.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (Riz8t)

134 "Oh look, a right winger turned out to be a nazi. "

And there it is. See 71

Posted by: ... at October 05, 2026 12:35 PM (FnbEu)

135 Tucker wants to be talked about.

Posted by: m at October 05, 2026 12:35 PM (odBC9)

136 The UK was already fast-tracking self-rule in India after passing the Government of India Act in 1935. When Halifax discussed the turmoil in India with Mustache Man, Mustache Man simply replied "Shoot Gandhi".

Carlson knows this stuff. I'd be amazed if he didn't. A loyal merc, though. Not many of those guys around.

Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2026 12:35 PM (rj6Yv)

137 "Heh. I think they stayed on rationing well into the 50s."

Right, the British were naive to think that Churchill was the cause of their problems and Labor was the cure.
This reminds me of something...

Posted by: PG at October 05, 2026 12:35 PM (+vT3S)

138 For every DAY that Japan continued to occupy lands not theirs, it has been estimated that roughly 10,000 civilians died. 10K. Every day. Ask Tucker to square that with his "concern" about using nukes, and presumably a preference for a slow blockade (which wouldn't have worked anyway).
Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM (Riz8t)
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Tucker is happy to sacrifice large populations of people, and he doesn't much care which ones take the hit. As I said @52, he supports totalitarians and thinks Republican Democracies are inherently bad.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 05, 2026 12:35 PM (l6BsO)

139 The Italians also lost Old Guinea.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:36 PM (1ikK2)

140 Pooh Bear told Pigglet he didn't want the honeypot but Eeyore couldn't help but keep an eye on that shifty bear. Tigger knew the whole time.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at October 05, 2026 12:36 PM (kvLZQ)

141 To this day I don't think Filipinos care much for Japan.
Posted by: polynikes at October 05, 2026 12:33 PM (KC5Lt)

To be fair, they and the Koreans do not have much reason to.

I leave the chinese out because they went on to slaughter far more of their own people than the Japanese did.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:36 PM (Y/06r)

142 90 Germany and Russia attacked Poland basically at the same time relatively speaking ( about a week later IIRC) . It still bugs me that Stalin was rewarded for basically doing the same thing Hitler did to kick off WW2. I understand why we subsequently allied with the USSR but don't understand why we gave away the store after the war was over. Patton was right again.

Posted by: polynikes at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (KC5Lt)

The US government was a big fan of Stalin and the USSR was involved in staffing decisions. The division of Europe was intentionally favorable towards them as opposed to the US pushing as far as possible when rolling up the Nazis.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at October 05, 2026 12:36 PM (okun6)

143 Every generation provides influencers who desire despotism.

Posted by: torabora at October 05, 2026 12:36 PM (vXMWv)

144 >>> 10k per day seems... high. At the beginning, sure. No question. After a while though, areas get pacified. Is the stat an average?

======

Well, at least they're not raping them, so they got that goin' for 'em.

Posted by: Turn 2 at October 05, 2026 12:36 PM (QFchU)

145 diabolism

There's a word that doesn't get used enough.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 05, 2026 12:36 PM (4NO2D)

146 And rationing didn't end until sometime in the 50s"

Rationing? What's that?

/upper crust

Posted by: man at October 05, 2026 12:36 PM (+imBs)

147 Germany and Russia attacked Poland basically at the same time relatively speaking ( about a week later IIRC) . It still bugs me that Stalin was rewarded for basically doing the same thing Hitler did to kick off WW2.
Posted by: polynikes
_________

If Britain and France would have gone forward with intervening on behalf of the Finns in their war against Russia, and Germany still invaded Russia a year later, then it would have been a Tolkien three sided war.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 05, 2026 12:36 PM (JzUSu)

148 98 The Japs. We should have been nicer to the Japs and divided up China for the coolies, opium, whores and General Tso's chicken.

Plus we would have avoided Korea and Vietnam later on.

Posted by: Tucker Carlson at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (Al3kG)

The Japs were more than vicious in China and other places they conquered before and during WW2. The things they did there are unforgivable. The current generations of Japanese bear no sin for this, but a good number of their ancestors certainly do.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 05, 2026 12:36 PM (l3cgK)

149 Swear to god, I'm going to wake up one morning to find Netflix is doing an unironic adaptation of Spinrad's "The Iron Dream" the way this is going.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at October 05, 2026 12:37 PM (ENA4W)

150 Leave my friend Tucker alone!
Posted by: JD Vance at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (/OKHJ)
==================
This is the problem. What do Vance supporters have to say about this?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 05, 2026 12:37 PM (l6BsO)

151 Well yeah, but then we'd own Madagascar...
Posted by: Brother Tim

Which would be awesome. All the cool wildlife there.

Madagascar is on my bucket list.
Posted by: Bulg at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM (77rzZ)

I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT
HE LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT
SHE LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT
YOU LIKE TO, MOVE IT!

Posted by: King Julien at October 05, 2026 12:37 PM (wVcYX)

152
George McDonald Fraser, who was no fan of the Bomb, asked those who said it shouldn't have been used: OK, so when does Japan surrender? If it's not August 15, 1945, you have some explaining to do.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2026 12:37 PM (eRlcH)

153 Second largest navy in the world from about 1900 through the end of WW1.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (JzUSu)

And now, the world's second-largest navy is America's museum fleet. Truly.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 05, 2026 12:37 PM (gLYp7)

154 Listen, I have no idea what's going on between the geometry of Tuckers ears, but it has to include demonic possession, it's the only thing that makes sense.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 05, 2026 12:37 PM (XV/Pl)

155 Afternoon Ace
The pretending to not to understand is the lefts new tactic to try and control the conversation. What's the context, what's the citation are two faves
When someone says that my response is "look it up'

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 05, 2026 12:37 PM (ofacb)

156 Poland wasn't even a real country. It was gone for the longest time.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:37 PM (1ikK2)

157 He loved animals. He must've been a good guy...
/sarc
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM

And he could paint a whole apartment in an afternoon. Two coats!

Posted by: Franz Liebkind at October 05, 2026 12:38 PM (FAGAJ)

158 Does Tucker Carlson know that Hitler's own generals try to kill him because he was a lunatic?

Posted by: dantesed at October 05, 2026 12:38 PM (p3pWU)

159 68 Reading Winston Churchill's The Gathering Storm actually thought this morning why did England fight the National Socialists then turn around and become Socialists anyway?
Posted by: Skip
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The common British people were tired, they blamed the Conservatives prior to Churchill who was a maverick Tory for the war (see Guilty Men by Michael Foote, a Labor historian/politician), and severe war time rationing and the import/export exchange controls more or less conditioned the British people to having government control everything economic as they did in the war.

After all, they won didn't they with quasi socialism? But the bloom soon came off the rose with Labourl governments but those in both the Labour and Conservative mainstream believed socialism was the future, perhaps not Stalin socialism but government control of key industries, wages, and other economic life was seen as necessary.

Posted by: whig at October 05, 2026 12:38 PM (E4rtv)

160 The US government was a big fan of Stalin and the USSR was involved in staffing decisions"

The entire western "leadership" loved the USSR...

Posted by: man at October 05, 2026 12:38 PM (+imBs)

161 To this day I don't think Filipinos care much for Japan.

All of the Asians are racist against each other at a much higher level than any Democrat KKK Wizard could ever achieve.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 05, 2026 12:38 PM (2ocoG)

162 The second largest navy is moored off of Bremerton.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:38 PM (1ikK2)

163 One that was largely penned up for most of the war.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
________

Yes, but they were still clearly a great naval power. That's all I was saying.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 05, 2026 12:39 PM (JzUSu)

164 The Japs were more than vicious in China and other places they conquered before and during WW2. The things they did there are unforgivable. The current generations of Japanese bear no sin for this, but a good number of their ancestors certainly do.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 05, 2026 12:36 PM (l3cgK)

This. The Japanese were almost caricaturishly evil. Actually they went a few steps past that. Warrior/Honor/Caste culture, combined with a lot of racial supremacy so you can 'Not People' pretty much anyone who is not a Japanese Male.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:39 PM (Y/06r)

165 I’ve gotten to the point now where I believe Carlson is so out there he’s no worth seriously engaging. I watched those clips and he’s a completely unserious person; his points are entirely emotional and repetitive and require zero thought on any level. Shorter version: he’s looney tunes

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 05, 2026 12:39 PM (UThdG)

166 150 Leave my friend Tucker alone!
Posted by: JD Vance at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (/OKHJ)
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This is the problem. What do Vance supporters have to say about this?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 05, 2026 12:37 PM (l6BsO)

Maybe: The Vice President of the United States doesn't need to get pulled back and forth by way-too-online people to say yay or nay about individual influencers. He needs to be steady.

Posted by: m at October 05, 2026 12:39 PM (odBC9)

167 He even had German Shepherds.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:39 PM (1ikK2)

168 All of the Asians are racist against each other at a much higher level than any Democrat KKK Wizard could ever achieve.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 05, 2026 12:38 PM (2ocoG)

THIS.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:40 PM (Y/06r)

169 Well, at least they're not raping them, so they got that goin' for 'em.
Posted by: Turn 2 at October 05, 2026 12:36 PM (QFchU)

Wut?

Posted by: Nanking at October 05, 2026 12:40 PM (i9VX2)

170 120 Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:31 PM (Y/06r)

To this day I don't think Filipinos care much for Japan.

Posted by: polynikes at October 05, 2026 12:33 PM (KC5Lt)

Neither do the Koreans or the Chinese.
My ex-SIL was on a plane trip with a stop in Japan...as she waited for her connecting flight, an man came up to her and started talking to her in Japanese; she said, "I'm NOT a FUCKING JAP!" in Korean.
Yes, the memories of Japanese cruelty and rapacious behavior lives on.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 05, 2026 12:40 PM (l3cgK)

171 The entire western "leadership" loved the USSR...

The New York Times was having a public love affair with both Hitler and Stalin until Hitler double-crossed Stalin.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 05, 2026 12:40 PM (2ocoG)

172 150 Leave my friend Tucker alone!
Posted by: JD Vance at October 05, 2026 12:34 PM (/OKHJ)
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This is the problem. What do Vance supporters have to say about this?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 05, 2026 12:37 PM (l6BsO)

Same thing we say about Trump's friends, since he had a few questionable ones...they aren't Trump...and we judge Trump by his own actions...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 05, 2026 12:40 PM (tOcjL)

173 What do Vance supporters have to say about this?"

All "republicans" need to denounce Vance now!

/ we're back to this idiocy?

Posted by: man at October 05, 2026 12:40 PM (+imBs)

174 The common British people were tired, they blamed the Conservatives prior to Churchill who was a maverick Tory for the war (see Guilty Men by Michael Foote, a Labor historian/politician), and severe war time rationing and the import/export exchange controls more or less conditioned the British people to having government control everything economic as they did in the war.

I imagine it didn't help their delusions of superpowerdom to know that the US had very clearly usurped their traditional role, and that they simply weren't big enough to reverse that process. Might as well just hand off the world-leadership torch, then. Sure, some tried to deny it for awhile, but everyone, including Stalin, knew it. The Big Three were really the Big Two and a Half.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2026 12:40 PM (Riz8t)

175 >>>149 Swear to god, I'm going to wake up one morning to find Netflix is doing an unironic adaptation of Spinrad's "The Iron Dream" the way this is going.

interesting book. A little pointless but interesting.

Posted by: ace at October 05, 2026 12:41 PM (1wjle)

176 Tucker Carlson is increasingly showing his Nazi ass by performing the same service to Hitler.

TC has probably broken Germanies Anti-Nazi laws.

Posted by: DaveA at October 05, 2026 12:41 PM (FhXTo)

177 To this day I don't think Filipinos care much for Japan.
Posted by: polynikes at October 05, 2026 12:33 PM (KC5Lt)
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Asian countries don't much like China, but really don't like Japan. That might be the source of our diplomatic strength in the Pacific.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 05, 2026 12:41 PM (l6BsO)

178 156 Poland wasn't even a real country. It was gone for the longest time.
Posted by: Boss Moss
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There is a difference between a 'country' and a 'nation'. Countries are lines on a map, nations are built on blood, shared history, and culture including religion. Stellar example is Israel which has persisted for millennia without a country and yet when restored to its homeland, became a nation-state which is where the nation and geographic borders coincide.

Posted by: whig at October 05, 2026 12:41 PM (E4rtv)

179 The left: See the right are a bunch of NAZIs just like Tucker!

Also the left: Tucker is one of those reasonable republicans not controlled by the Jews we need more of

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2026 12:41 PM (sKqQm)

180 Hitler was Time Magazines Man of the Year.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 05, 2026 12:41 PM (1ikK2)

181 Okay, I'm confused....Hitler is now the "good" guy ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 05, 2026 12:31 PM

Liberal Goes Back In Time To Kill Hitler

https://youtu.be/Ly1cPYSqgR4

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 05, 2026 12:41 PM (4NO2D)

182
All of the Asians are racist against each other at a much higher level than any Democrat KKK Wizard could ever achieve.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 05, 2026 12:38 PM (2ocoG)

___________

Take the racial views of a white Alabama sharecropper 100 years ago. Multiply by 10. That's how Russians view Central Asians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2026 12:42 PM (eRlcH)

183 btw, if anyone reads "The Iron Dream" on kindle, be on notice that the Kindle automatically starts the book on the first page of the book-within-the-book. It skips you over very necessary backstory for the "book," which is presented as an "Editor's Note" or something and is the real start of the book.

Posted by: ace at October 05, 2026 12:42 PM (1wjle)

184 I imagine it didn't help their delusions of superpowerdom to know that the US had very clearly usurped their traditional role, and that they simply weren't big enough to reverse that process. Might as well just hand off the world-leadership torch, then. Sure, some tried to deny it for awhile, but everyone, including Stalin, knew it. The Big Three were really the Big Two and a Half.
Posted by: Archimedes
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True at the elite level and that led to the debacle of the 1956 Suez Crisis and the fall of Anthony Eden.

Posted by: whig at October 05, 2026 12:42 PM (E4rtv)

185 And now, the world's second-largest navy is America's museum fleet. Truly."

The Cajun Navy laughs

Posted by: man at October 05, 2026 12:42 PM (+imBs)

186 no one will read what i write

and sid's ass is the best tasting ass

Posted by: Paul at October 05, 2026 12:42 PM (ATSTk)

187 The nuclear bombs saved more Japanese lives than American lives and other allies.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at October 05, 2026 12:42 PM (s19xO)

188 This. The Japanese were almost caricaturishly evil. Actually they went a few steps past that. Warrior/Honor/Caste culture, combined with a lot of racial supremacy so you can 'Not People' pretty much anyone who is not a Japanese Male.

It was no day at the beach to be a Japanese male, either. Here's a sword, go run at the machine guns. If you fail, just stab yourself in the belly and pull out your guts.

And if even that doesn't work, well, you're on your own. Enjoy starvation and malaria!

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2026 12:43 PM (Riz8t)

189 157 He loved animals. He must've been a good guy...
/sarc
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 05, 2026 12:29 PM

And he could paint a whole apartment in an afternoon. Two coats!

Posted by: Franz Liebkind at October 05, 2026 12:38 PM (FAGAJ)

And he was a vegetarian!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 05, 2026 12:43 PM (l3cgK)

190 I understand why we subsequently allied with the USSR but don't understand why we gave away the store after the war was over. Patton was right again.

Posted by: polynikes at October 05, 2026 12:30 PM (KC5Lt)
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By the time the Yalta conference convened, the US and the UK were desperately trying to pin Stalin down for a declaration of war against Japan. The Manhattan Project still hadn't demonstrated a working fission bomb, and there were no guarantees it ever would work. Besides, shifting hundreds of thousands of Soviet troops to the Far East would mean hundreds of thousands of Soviet troops not within striking distance of Soviet-free capitals in Europe. By the time of the Potsdam Conference, Soviet military forces fully occupied the countries of Eastern Europe. It would have taken another global war to kick them out.

Posted by: mrp at October 05, 2026 12:43 PM (rj6Yv)

191 Poland wasn't even a real country. It was gone for the longest time.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.

Poland was the apple that fell on Schroedinger's head.

Posted by: mikeski at October 05, 2026 12:43 PM (VHUov)

192 One reason the UK was so broke after Dunkirk is that the US had passed the "Johnson" Act in 1934. UK owed a lot of money after WW1 (as did others), and the US had forbidden itself from lending any more.
Roosevelt (and, later, Willkie) wanted to do more for Britain but the American people lagged them. Over 1940, FDR (with, again, some Republican backing) started Lend-Lease but of course most of that just ended up with Stalin in 1941.
Britain kept the colonies because otherwise Britain would frankly have starved.

Posted by: 88C+u at October 05, 2026 12:43 PM (sDWtc)

193 All "republicans" need to denounce Vance now!

/ we're back to this idiocy?
Posted by: man at October 05, 2026 12:40 PM (+imBs)
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So we know now what little glimmers of thought you can contribute.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 05, 2026 12:43 PM (l6BsO)

194 Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 05, 2026 12:31 PM (Y/06r)

To this day I don't think Filipinos care much for Japan.
Posted by: polynikes at October 05, 2026 12:33 PM (KC5Lt)
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Surprisingly, it's just the opposite. The older Filipino generations who lived through the Japanese occupations and atrocities are long gone.

Today, Japanese products and culture dominate the Philippines, especially among the younger generations, and that translates into high approval rates for Japan and Japanese people in the country.

World War 2? What WW2?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 05, 2026 12:43 PM (iFTx/)

195 This is the problem. What do Vance supporters have to say about this?

Vance was an active participant in using Tucker's son to relay fake intelligence to Iran (through Tucker), and then he fired the guy. And he's now saying we need to eliminate the H1B program. DJT is teaching him well.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 05, 2026 12:43 PM (2ocoG)

196 >>>165 I’ve gotten to the point now where I believe Carlson is so out there he’s no worth seriously engaging. I watched those clips and he’s a completely unserious person; his points are entirely emotional and repetitive and require zero thought on any level. Shorter version: he’s looney tunes

yup

you know, Tucker says a lot of lunatic things I never post on the blog. I only bother mentioning him when it's particularly pernicious or floridly insane.

Posted by: ace at October 05, 2026 12:43 PM (1wjle)

197
Russia provoked WW1 over Serbia, the Balkans and Dardanelles.

Tucker enjoys the 1st amendment protection of the U.S. Constitution no matter what nonsense he spouts or for whatever reason.

Posted by: Auspex at October 05, 2026 12:44 PM (Y8DZL)

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