Gun Thread: It's October and October Means TXMoMe Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the October Means TXMoMe Edition? That's right folks - the big event is less than #two weeks away! I hope you are rushing your TXMoMe attendance preparations to completion!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

Fundamentals of range safety for the TXMoMe.

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Handgun Shooting With Red Dots

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Dry Fire Drills

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Ax Weasel

Q: Weasel, I found a machine gun. Whatever shall I do?
A: See below

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2026 TXMoMe

They Mome'n down in Texas!

The time has come to begin the discussion of the upcoming TXMoMe in Corsicana, TX on October 16-17. This is the eleventh annual TXMoMe, or Conservative Burning Man as it's popularly known, and it promises to be a doozy. A double-doozy even. A bigly double-doozy! If you're in either the Northern or Southern Hemisphere of the Planet of the Earth, contact Ben Had for details on attending. The dates and email links for all MoMes are always helpfully included on the blog's main page, left sidebar.

What started years ago as a small get-together and informal plinking session lasting a couple of hours has matured into a full scale jamboree-hootenanny including a program of shooting activities for both handguns and rifles over two days. I have to thank Ben Had, Cow Horse Queen and RancherBob for making this whole thing happen and providing the opportunity for the shooting to comprise such a significant portion of the event.

But wait! There's more! Combine that with world class food and drink, and the even world classier company of your fellow Morons, and you have a weekend that legends are made of. For those not inclined to shoot (?), there are non-stop opportunities to relax in the shade of the carport or under a handy nearby tree with a beverage and visit with your online pals to your hearts content, which is really what the whole damn thing is about in the first place..

Allow me to be serious for a minute, and I have said this probably nine hundred and twelve times now. These gatherings are a really good time, and I know of no one who expresses regret after having attended one. Actually it goes beyond that. It's not just a weekend of laughs, it's an opportunity to connect with lots of like-minded people and create lasting friendships and priceless memories. No kidding. Think that's hyperbole? It snot. Would your ol' pal Weasel lie to you? Well, yes he would, but not about this. TXMoMe veterans will attest to the funness and completely laid-back nature of the event. Don't be a dork, do yourself a favor and get yo' ass to Texas!

TXMoMe veterans: please jump into the comments to encourage the scairdy-cats to join in the fun! What was your first MoMe like? What were you expecting? Were you surprised? Did you have a great time?

If you are attending the TXMoMe this year, and all the cool kids are, please keep an eye on this section for important information and updates in the coming weeks. I also want to reiterate the TXMoMe is not a gun thing with some socializing attached, but rather is a social thing with some shooting attached. If you aren't a shooter, I guarantee you will not feel out of place and will have a great time. No fooling!

Are all y'all getting excited? Weasel are!!

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10/04/26 Update/Reminders/New Stuff

No big changes this week. However, our pal Piper did such a fantastic job with a TXMoMe fashion Guide in last Sunday's ONT that I thought it should be included again here in case anyone missed it. Thanks Piper, very nicely done!

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What to Wear to the AOSHQ Texas MoMe

The short version: comfortable picnic clothes. The long version is below, because a Texas ranch in the sun will punish anyone who treats this like a cocktail reception, even those of us who are inclined to treat everything like a cocktail reception.

This is an outdoor meetup on a ranch. You will be standing, sitting, walking, eating, and possibly wandering toward whatever shade you can find. Dress for heat, dirt, grass, and a long stretch of being outside. If it looks good at a backyard cookout and you can still move in it after three hours, you are in the right neighborhood.

The basic uniform

Wear something you would actually picnic in.
• Breathable shirt: cotton, linen, or a light performance tee. Light colors help in the sun. A button-down you can leave open over a tee works if you want a little coverage.
• Shorts or casual pants: shorts, jeans you already know are comfortable, or lightweight pants. Remember, if you wear shorts, there are bugs and taller grasses out there. If this bothers you, think more light weight pants.
• Closed-toe shoes you can walk in: sneakers, trail shoes, or broken-in boots. Ranch ground is not a manicured lawn.
• A hat with a brim. Texas sun is not a suggestion.

That is the whole look. Comfortable. Outdoor. Picnic. Ranch.

What “comfortable” actually means here

Comfortable does not mean “I just rolled out of the car in pajama pants.” It means you can sit on a bench or the ground, stand in a cluster talking, walk to the next activity, and not spend the afternoon tugging at clothes that were a bad idea.

Bring a light layer. Even on a hot day, shade, wind, or evening can change the temperature. A hoodie or light flannel stuffed in the car is cheap insurance.

Sun, sweat, and ranch realities

Assume sun. Sunscreen, sunglasses, and a hat will do more for you than any outfit choice.

Assume you will get dusty. Do not wear anything you would be sad to see with grass stains or ranch dirt on it.

Assume bugs. If you are the person mosquitoes treat like a buffet, long sleeves in a light fabric or a bit of repellent.

What not to wear

The brand-new white sneakers you want to keep white, and anything that needs dry cleaning. When walking around the property, you don’t want open toed shoes, unless you are okay with surprises from the grass in the form of stickers or bitey things. This is not the moment to channel Johnny Cash. All black leather is cool, but not when it’s really hot!

A simple packing list

• Breathable shirt and comfortable bottoms
• Walking shoes, closed toe
• Hat and sunglasses
• Sunscreen
• Lip balm – guys too! The air can be VERY dry
• Light extra layer
• Water bottle
• Hearing protection if you are going to shoot
• Safety glasses if you are going to shoot
• Raincoat or poncho because you never know!

You are going to a ranch picnic with the Horde, not a photoshoot. In fact, we don’t even like to take photos! Dress like someone who plans to stay outside, eat, talk, and enjoy people outside of grey boxes.

Thanks again, Piper!

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Call for ideas: I have been doing the same class on rifles Friday morning for years now. Are you getting tired of it yet? I would like to have the session be more of an open forum where your particular questions can be answered with a discussion by the group. I am perfectly willing to keep doing the same presentation, or parts of it, but think a roundtable forum would be interesting and informative. Please let me know what you think in the comments.

Volunteers: If you are interested in helping out, please send me a note (gunthread at protonmail dot com) on when you plan to arrive (day and approximate time). It is really critical to have this information for scheduling and to make certain we have the proper coverage to make the shooting portion safe and enjoyable for all concerned. Thank you in advance!

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2026 TXMoMe Schedule

Here is an outline of the schedule of events. Times are tentative and subject to modification/change. This schedule will be included in the Gun Thread with any changes incorporated going forward until the event, so please check back weekly.

Friday, 10/16

Rifle Program
8am - 10:30am: Rifle Clinic (carport)
10:30am - 11am: Combined Range and Safety Briefing - Mandatory for Friday Shooters! (carport)
Noon: Light lunch provided (carport)
11am - 4pm: Live fire (rifle range - targets to 1,000 yds)

Handgun Program
10:30am - 11am: Combined Range and Safety Briefing - Mandatory for Friday Shooters! (carport)
11:00am - 12:00pm: Static live fire (pistol range)
Noon: Light lunch provided (carport)
1pm - 4:00pm: Static live fire (pistol range)

Saturday, 10/17

Rifle Program
9am - 10am: Combined Range and Safety Briefing - Mandatory for Saturday Shooters! (carport)
9am - 1pm: Live fire (rifle range)
1pm(ish) Lunch (carport)

Handgun Program
9am - 10am: Range and Safety Briefing - Mandatory for Saturday Shooters! (carport)
9am - 1pm: Live fire (pistol range)
1pm-ish Lunch (carport)

Shooters: Bring your own hearing and eye protection, and wear sensible shoes as the ground on the ranges can be uneven! Also, please plan on stopping somewhere along your way to Texas and picking up some ammunition if you plan to shoot and aren't bringing your own weapons/ammo. Everyone is very generous with sharing, but please don't rely on the generosity of others to provide everything for you. You can really help out by grabbing a box of 9mm or 5.56mm or whatever you want to shoot. Here is a link to Brinson Power Sports in Corsicana which sells ammo. They also sell ATV's if you want to grab one of those while you're there.

Anyhoo...

For a while I have been conducting a Rifle Clinic on Friday morning followed by range time Friday afternoon and then again well into Saturday. Most of you (I think) have endured this presentation before, so if there are other topics you would like to have covered, speak up in the comments and I will try to address your request.

We have also been steadily refining the handgun portion of the program and this year will be focusing on the static pistol range as well as continuing to offer a separate setup for gun-curious beginners desiring one-on-one supervision and instruction. If you are a novice shooter, or even have never been to the range before and think guns are icky, you are welcome to shoot! Just see an RSO and they will set you up with an experienced shooter to help you.

These times are approximate and programs may change as weather conditions and participation warrant. We anticipate a hard stop on both ranges at 1pm on Saturday to allow everyone to participate in the bigly fun TXMoMe festivities.

Range Safety
You will note there are combined rifle and handgun range safety briefings both days and attendance is mandatory if you want to shoot. We take your safety seriously and ask everyone who wants to shoot plan on attending this important briefing. Again, we are conducting one combined safety brief each day. No exceptions.

At the conclusion of each day's safety briefing you will be asked to sign a general liability waiver, after which you will receive a color-coded wrist band. The color is different each day, and it is your ticket onto the range(s) for the day. No wrist band, no shooting that day. Don't want to sign the waiver? No problem, just do not expect to shoot. If you miss the mandatory range safety briefing which is mandatory and must be attended, you are welcome to watch the live fire activities from designated observation areas.

All shooters are asked to check in with an RSO (sporting an Orange Cap of Dorkiness for easy identification) upon your arrival at either of the ranges who will answer questions and direct you to an open firing position. The RSOs wield unspeakable power so it is in your best interest to be nice to them. Want to do things your way? I suggest that your own personal range on your own personal property is a good place for expressing your individuality.

IMPORTANT: I would hope this goes without saying, but anyone failing to immediately and politely follow RSO instructions will be removed from the range(s). Period. No exceptions. This means YOU.

I will probably think of more things to yell about in the coming weeks so please stay tuned.

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Our Pal The Steel Rule

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Trucks And Your Town

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Highway Patrol!

This week's episode: Desperate Men

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Flight to Mars!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo
Lucky Gunner Ammo NEW!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 04, 2026 07:00 PM (I43vL)

2 Don’t talk, shoot!

Posted by: Accomack at October 04, 2026 07:00 PM (dJCmT)

3 *sniffs*

Mmm...fresh Gun Thread.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:01 PM (/C5Rl)

4 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 07:03 PM (x38rU)

5 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at October 04, 2026 07:03 PM (Ia/+0)

6 oh, please!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at October 04, 2026 07:03 PM (OB8ow)

7 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special one-fortnight-to-Corsicana greeting to our host Weasel!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at October 04, 2026 07:04 PM (xVpNO)

8 All your imaginary friends are going to be there.

Posted by: Eromero at October 04, 2026 07:05 PM (LHPAg)

9 Evening everyone!!!

This time next week the Jeep will be loaded up for the drive down to the MoMe.

Only thing range related is I gave a quick clean to the rifle and removed the muzzle brake.

Looking forward to this week going quickly and painlessly at work.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 04, 2026 07:06 PM (nDgTL)

10 Allow me to be serious for a minute, and I have said this probably nine hundred and twelve times now.

According to Star Fleet Archives, nine hundred and twenty seven so far, to date.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at October 04, 2026 07:07 PM (0sNs1)

11 Good evening to everyone of the GunHorde.
No shooting for me but lots of cooking at an Oktoberfest and some hunting weapon maintenance.

Looking forward to hearing about the Texas meeting.

Posted by: Coelacanth at October 04, 2026 07:08 PM (cIOlQ)

12 Range report: checked all torque and checked zero. Rifle is clean and ready for Corsicana. Will double check zero at local temps at my buddy's ranch prior to MoMe-ing.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:08 PM (/C5Rl)

13 Sadly, odds are I will not be attending the MoMe this year, but... if I'm still in driving distance next year? Surely by then I'll be able to afford it!

Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at October 04, 2026 07:10 PM (aJQbY)

14 I carry a large bandana in my range bag, to help keep hot brass from finding its way down the front of a lady (such as the second picture)'s shirt.

Since apparently the 'ette dressing standard is elevating, as depicted in the first picture, I will need to discern a better solution, as a large bandana will not, I fear, provide adequate coverage.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:10 PM (0sNs1)

15 Weasel and Gun thread readers, you might want to take a look at the 9 Hole Reviews YouTube channel's podcast this week. One of the co-hosts and his guest discuss the practicalities of using 5.56mm NATO as a long range (400+ meters) DMR role. They discuss the interplay between barrel length, optics selection, and ammunition choices on the long range performance of the 5.56mm NATO round at extreme (out to 1,000 meters) ranges and whether individual shooters can achieve repeatable, accurate fire at these distances. You might find their conclusions interesting.

Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 07:11 PM (x38rU)

16 I carry a large bandana in my range bag, to help keep hot brass from finding its way down the front of a lady (such as the second picture)'s shirt.

Since apparently the 'ette dressing standard is elevating, as depicted in the first picture, I will need to discern a better solution, as a large bandana will not, I fear, provide adequate coverage.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:10 PM

Aaaaand, it's a boob thread.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:11 PM (/C5Rl)

17 (If I get a firm job offer in the next two weeks? I'll do my best to at least make it down for Saturday. No promises)

Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at October 04, 2026 07:12 PM (aJQbY)

18 Didn't Piper do a good job with the TXMoMe fashion guide? Everyone please say thank you to Piper.

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 07:14 PM (TMF5Z)

19 It looks like a missed a Zod sighting last week.

Regardless of what you shoot, Zod, get yourself to Corsicana. Do this ~~now~~ in #twoweeks.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:14 PM (/C5Rl)

20 Howdy!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 04, 2026 07:15 PM (sAmhv)

21 Thank you Piper!!!!!!!

Excellent work on the What To Wear.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 04, 2026 07:15 PM (nDgTL)

22 Good evening gub threaders and all the ships at sea!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 04, 2026 07:15 PM (NlEaG)

23 Didn't Piper do a good job with the TXMoMe fashion guide? Everyone please say thank you to Piper.
Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 07:14 PM

Yes. Yes, she did.

Thank you, Piper!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:16 PM (/C5Rl)

24 Weasel, thanks for including it again. I thanked Piper.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:16 PM (nxLtX)

25 Excellent work on the What To Wear.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 04, 2026 07:15 PM

You don't want to be on What Not to Wear. Like all three of my friend's sisters.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:17 PM (/C5Rl)

26 Thank you Piper!

Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 07:17 PM (x38rU)

27 Are we going to discuss hat crease choices for the TxMoMe? I suspect Ben Had will be advocating for the Cattleman Crease, with, possibly, the Gus as the second choice.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:17 PM (0sNs1)

28 Hat crease IS a very significant fashion choice.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:18 PM (0sNs1)

29 Duncanthrax, you know me well.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:18 PM (nxLtX)

30

We're comin' to your town, we'll help you party it down
We're an American truck

Posted by: New truck in town at October 04, 2026 07:19 PM (Cqx++)

31 I was lucky enough to spend yesterday at a special range event where I got to fire off all sorts of fun toys. The day started with a pistol and three gun mini-course. After lunch it was lots of suppressed pistols and rifles, some full-auto, a .460 revolver (KA-BOOM!!!), and a .308 that was hands-down the most accurate thing I've ever shot - and I've shot some real tack-drivers with ammo that was form-fired to that individual chamber.

I think the last time I put that much lead downrange was my 2018 urban rifle class at Thunder Range Oregon. Very therapeutic. Best of all, I didn't have to clean any guns afterwards!

Posted by: PabloD at October 04, 2026 07:19 PM (OXSZa)

32 Hat crease IS a very significant fashion choice.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:18 PM

I will be putting a comfortable curve on the brim of the Orange Hat of Dorkiness, as well as my off-range hat.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:19 PM (/C5Rl)

33 Duncanthrax, you know me well.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:18 PM

* slides a glass of a nice Rhône-style red down the bar to Ben Had *

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:20 PM (0sNs1)

34 23 Didn't Piper do a good job with the TXMoMe fashion guide? Everyone please say thank you to Piper.
Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 07:14 PM

Yes. Yes, she did.

Thank you, Piper!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:16 PM (/C5Rl)
Yes she did, though I could have sworn she's shorter.

Posted by: Eromero at October 04, 2026 07:21 PM (LHPAg)

35 Thank you, kind Sir. Cheers.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:21 PM (nxLtX)

36 25 You don't want to be on What Not to Wear. Like all three of my friend's sisters.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:17 PM

I can never in a million years ever find myself wearing the What Not To Wear to a MoMe.

I would sweat off 20 lbs and probably pass out from heat stroke

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 04, 2026 07:22 PM (nDgTL)

37 One of those ladies has wider options when it comes to concealed carry.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:23 PM (0sNs1)

38 Now wait just a cotton pickin minute!

Posted by: fd at October 04, 2026 07:23 PM (MWfyi)

39 18 Didn't Piper do a good job with the TXMoMe fashion guide? Everyone please say thank you to Piper.
Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 07:14 PM (TMF5Z)

The X on the Man in Black cowboy outift hurts.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 04, 2026 07:23 PM (NlEaG)

40 Ben Had, sadly I will not be able to attend this year's TX MoMe due to a work emergency (i.e. the departure of two of my coworkers and redistribution of their workload). To say the least, I'm greatly disappointed. Especially since this problem came in at almost the last minute. I have mailed the gifts I had already planned to bring for you and Rancher Bob/Cowhorse Queen via the USPS c/o Rancher Bob and Cowhorse Queen. They should show up at the ranch this coming week (if the USPS does its job).

Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 07:24 PM (x38rU)

41
Let's not be hasty and judgemental about proper TXMoMe women's couture.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2026 07:25 PM (eRlcH)

42 Posted by: Ed L
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Military is confined to what cartridges and bullets fit their weapons that their logistic train supports. Civilians aren't.

And there are better choices than the 5.56x45 in whatever bullet choice for long distance shooting out of an AR frame. In bolt action, even more cartridges come into play.

There are better cartridges for long range that fit in AR package (without going to the AR-10 size or some kludge like Ruger's SFAR) out there like the 6.5 Grendel for example and the later Hornady ARC series. At 400 in practical lethality, the 6.8 Spec or the 6.5 Grendel are more than adequate and have actually been adopted by some foreign militaries.

If you had to go 1000 in .22 caliber, the 224 Valkyrie will do it as it was designed for it.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 07:25 PM (E4rtv)

43 *tips hat to Ed L.*

Hope to see you in NoVa next year!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:25 PM (/C5Rl)

44 I can never in a million years ever find myself wearing the What Not To Wear to a MoMe.

I would sweat off 20 lbs and probably pass out from heat stroke
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 04, 2026 07:22 PM

OTOH, you might, just might, rocket to #1 on James Talafreako's favorite drag queens list.

(And yes, he has such a list, as he named his favorite with no hesitation when asked.)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:25 PM (0sNs1)

45 I mentioned before thato ur local range is going empty. I am not sure what explains it. I mean its nice to have no qit for a lane but I don't see any reason for the slowdown.

NoVa.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 04, 2026 07:26 PM (NlEaG)

46 Ed L, Oh No! I will miss you. Thank you for your generosity.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:26 PM (nxLtX)

47 I would love to purchase a cowboy hat. I am sure those down in Texas would be able to stear me towards a good haberdashery.

🤠🤠🤠

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 04, 2026 07:26 PM (nDgTL)

48 Oh - and good evening gubthreaders, and all the ships at sea.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 04, 2026 07:27 PM (NlEaG)

49 But of course Piper came through!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 04, 2026 07:27 PM (hOUT3)

50
Brewers win, 4-3 on a walk-off bases-loaded single.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2026 07:28 PM (eRlcH)

51 Hrothgar, big hug to you.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:28 PM (nxLtX)

52 I was going to do some shooting out in the desert this weekend, then I remembered that this coming Saturday is opening day for deer season, which means that every wide spot on a gravel road will have a pickup parked on it, with a rifle sitting on the hood, as the occupants perform the ritual of "sighting in."

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 04, 2026 07:29 PM (kZXPY)

53 51
Bakatcha Ben Had!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 04, 2026 07:29 PM (hOUT3)

54 Didn't Piper do a good job with the TXMoMe fashion guide? Everyone please say thank you to Piper.
Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 07:14 PM (TMF5Z)

Thank you Pipes.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 04, 2026 07:29 PM (2WIwB)

55 I'm curious why Piper downchecked the man in black.

Was it the boots going outside the pants? The lower-tier spurs? That he's not a bull rider?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:30 PM (0sNs1)

56 Well done Piper!

Newbies take heart what you wear will be fine.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2026 07:31 PM (NnhvP)

57 Hot brass is never a problem when you use a revolver.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:31 PM (nxLtX)

58 EdL, gonna miss you!!

Guess I will see you at next years NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 04, 2026 07:31 PM (nDgTL)

59 NoVa.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 04, 2026 07:26 PM

*looks around MA*

Could be worse...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:33 PM (/C5Rl)

60 What's burning tonight, Weasel? I'm about to select a stick for a late (for me) burn. I talk with my friend down in TX (Austin region) while we both destroy a cigar, and for the first time *I* have to delay to a later time due to heat. Unsurprisingly he's had to do it a number of times.

We're having record high heat here, though RH is not very high (not paper-dry, like during a Santa Ana, but moderate) so it's not that uncomfortable, just HOT. September is the warmest month here and most heat records are early October. Recall being let out of school as a kid 2 or 3 times when it hit 100 (no AC in the schools back then), always October.

Think I'll burn an Undercrown Maduro in honor of one of the selections at the MoMe - and because I love them.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 04, 2026 07:33 PM (U/Byj)

61 44 OTOH, you might, just might, rocket to #1 on James Talafreako's favorite drag queens list. (And yes, he has such a list, as he named his favorite with no hesitation when asked.)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:25 PM (0sNs1)

Speaking of the Freak, I picked up my Paxton sign yesterday from my Chinese neighbor who’s a naturalized citizen and lived under Communism. She and several other Chinese here have been working their wazoos off to get out the vote. Btw, if any fellow Texan needs a Paxton sign, I could probably get a few and bring them to the festivities.

Posted by: TxAnn at October 04, 2026 07:33 PM (SjAWL)

62 "Assume bugs. If you are the person mosquitoes treat like a buffet, long sleeves in a light fabric or a bit of repellent."
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Words of wisdom. Bring bug repellent. Or plasma.

Posted by: mrp at October 04, 2026 07:33 PM (rj6Yv)

63 Hot brass is never a problem when you use a revolver.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:31 PM

There is copper and zinc in the words of Ben Had for all Morons to see.

Posted by: Duncanthrax Ten Bears at October 04, 2026 07:33 PM (0sNs1)

64 Ed L, you will be missed.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2026 07:34 PM (NnhvP)

65 Posted by: rhomboid at October 04, 2026 07:33 PM (U/Byj)
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My good old Factory Smoke!

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 07:34 PM (TMF5Z)

66 rhomboid, I very much hope that one day you will join us.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:34 PM (nxLtX)

67 Piper has the best fashion sense. I am sad to be missing this years funfest for the first time since I discovered the horde in person in 2020.
One thing missing from the clothing list is at least one set of clothes if there is a sudden storm. Twice I had to borrow a costume from Cow Horse Queen. At least a sweatshirt. Also there are fire ants so long pants are preferable and socks. Piper's recommendation of jeans and sensible shoes is smart.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 04, 2026 07:36 PM (kJmSS)

68 Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 07:25 PM (E4rtv)

Whig, the podcast looked at 5.56mm NATO chambered AR-15 platforms because it's by far the most common chambering and because shooters have been trying to push the 5.56mm NATO envelope with heavier, higher performance rounds (like 77 grain, Mk 262). Both of the hosts agreed that for serious long range work at 1,000 meters other calibers were far better for the job in hand.

Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 07:37 PM (x38rU)

69 Idaho Spudboy there's still one range duty day in the fall to see, but so far this year my day has had very few hunters sighting in. Typically there'll be 10-15 of them over the course of the morning, not members, bolt actions, optics, 10 or 20 shots - then gone. I make a habit of asking where they're hunting this time and always learn something. From up your way to CO to NM and UT and of course NV and AZ.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 04, 2026 07:37 PM (U/Byj)

70 Greetings Weasel, Ben Had and thank you Ms. Piper. I’m using a formal salutation for Ms. Piper as I haven’t officially met her. I’ve unofficially met Ben Had and Weasel.

Posted by: TxAnn at October 04, 2026 07:37 PM (SjAWL)

71 Weasel, always a solid choice.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 04, 2026 07:38 PM (U/Byj)

72 Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:34 PM

Ben Had, I'm sorry to report that the Range Babe will most likely not be joining us. Too many medical issues that will eventually result in more bionic parts.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:38 PM (/C5Rl)

73 "Let's not be hasty and judgemental about proper TXMoMe women's couture.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh"

Why discourage comfortable attire? I don't see anything that would restrict motion.

Posted by: fd at October 04, 2026 07:38 PM (MWfyi)

74 I'll have a weather report for the MoMe on next weeks gun thread.
We finally got a substantial rain so the fire hazard is abated.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:39 PM (nxLtX)

75 Ben Had, thanks, your hospitality is justly famous. This year is rare in that I'm even in the country at the MoMe time. Usually traveling far away. But big projects under way this year (house).

Some day!

Posted by: rhomboid at October 04, 2026 07:39 PM (U/Byj)

76 Good evening Horde. Thanks Weasel!

We went to the range yesterday. Very empty. No wait and plenty of empty lanes.

Shot reasonably well. Came home and thoroughly cleaned everything in preparation for the coming week.

Posted by: TRex - fashionable dino at October 04, 2026 07:40 PM (XfIK1)

77 Ed L, you will be missed.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2026 07:34 PM (NnhvP)

And I will really miss the MoMe when I'm doing a briefing for the new operations officer. You know which of the two is more fun.

Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 07:40 PM (x38rU)

78 WHAT NO OVERALLS?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 04, 2026 07:40 PM (NlEaG)

79 The M1022 round is an excellent long-range round.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:41 PM (0sNs1)

80 RMBS, please say Hello to her for me and that I send a prayer for her to be well so that she may join us next year.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:41 PM (nxLtX)

81 Not a costume, haha. A coat. A COAT.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 04, 2026 07:41 PM (kJmSS)

82 I can never in a million years ever find myself wearing the What Not To Wear to a MoMe.

I would sweat off 20 lbs and probably pass out from heat stroke
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 04, 2026 07:22 PM (nDgTL)

I'm pretty sure I could rock that sequined cocktail dress, but we'll never know. The headwinds that I've encountered at the beginning of the year have continued to the point where I'll have to miss TXMOME XI. I've delayed the decision to give every opportunity for a miracle, but the truck's transmission isn't up for the drive, and the budget won't support airfare and car rental. I expect to have both addressed by the end of the year, so TXMOME XII attendance will be all but assured..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at October 04, 2026 07:41 PM (08OqX)

83 And I will really miss the MoMe when I'm doing a briefing for the new operations officer. You know which of the two is more fun.
Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 07:40 PM (x38rU)

Just get an AI to do the presentation. We will set you up with a Grok Bot.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 04, 2026 07:41 PM (NlEaG)

84 WHAT NO OVERALLS?
Posted by: blaster

That would be the Farmer Weasel look, wouldn't it?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2026 07:42 PM (NnhvP)

85 We finally got a substantial rain so the fire hazard is abated.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:39 PM

So, adding more cowbell and *really* exploring the whole pasture to your raindance worked! Well done!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:43 PM (0sNs1)

86 78 WHAT NO OVERALLS?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 04, 2026 07:40 PM

I can see overalls and no top working for both sexes. 😁😁😁

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 04, 2026 07:44 PM (nDgTL)

87 Duncanthrax, it was getting the tassels going in the same direction that did it !

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:44 PM (nxLtX)

88 67 One thing missing from the clothing list is at least one set of clothes if there is a sudden storm. Twice I had to borrow a costume from Cow Horse Queen. At least a sweatshirt. Also there are fire ants so long pants are preferable and socks. Piper's recommendation of jeans and sensible shoes is smart.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 04, 2026 07:36 PM (kJmSS)

Thank you on behalf of those attending our inaugural MoMe. The good thing about driving 3 hours is that you can basically throw your whole closet in the back seat and not have to worry about missing anything.

Posted by: TxAnn at October 04, 2026 07:46 PM (SjAWL)

89 Duncanthrax, it was getting the tassels going in the same direction that did it !
Posted by: Ben Had

Coordination is so important!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2026 07:46 PM (NnhvP)

90 AZdeplorable, ain't it though!

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:47 PM (nxLtX)

91 I have OFF on my shopping list.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:48 PM (nxLtX)

92 AZdeplorable, ain't it though!
Posted by: Ben Had

After my stroke I really agree!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2026 07:48 PM (NnhvP)

93 RMBS, please say Hello to her for me and that I send a prayer for her to be well so that she may join us next year.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:41 PM

Will do. We'll be visiting on our way up from San Antonio.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:50 PM (/C5Rl)

94 91 I have OFF on my shopping list.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:48 PM (nxLtX)

You should try Ben's.

We swear by it.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 04, 2026 07:50 PM (NlEaG)

95 blaster, I haven't seen that one. I will look for it. Thank you.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:51 PM (nxLtX)

96 And The Moose Out Front is getting a hoof pedicure and an antler buffing, and will be in attendance in Corsicana.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 07:54 PM (/C5Rl)

97 41
I must say I agree with Hardrian!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 04, 2026 07:54 PM (hOUT3)

98 Went to the range today and lo and behold, both Internet and computer system went down. No one could get booked into a lane no matter what they did. So no range time for me!

On the plus side, I did requalify for my CCL this week.

Posted by: YellowBird at October 04, 2026 07:55 PM (MEbkQ)

99 Evening all. Spent a doggy Saturday and Sunday making about 70 nitrated paper cartridges for the 1858 Remington New Army pistol.

Think I'll fill and cap off a few next Saturday morning. I really need a Garmin chronograph.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 07:55 PM (1O+Fl)

100 S'puppy, Nebraska football is 5-0???? Congrats, brother!

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 07:56 PM (XfIK1)

101 Governor Newsom (D-CA) signed 10 new gun laws into existence.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:57 PM (0sNs1)

102 Ed L, Oh No! I will miss you. Thank you for your generosity.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:26 PM (nxLtX)

I hope you, Cowhorse Queen, and Rancher Bob like what I sent.

Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 07:57 PM (x38rU)

103 The Grateful, anything I need to refill for your supplies?

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 07:58 PM (nxLtX)

104 Governor Newsom (D-CA) signed 10 new gun laws into existence.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:57 PM (0sNs1)

And thereby created more work for trial lawyers for at least the next three to five years.

Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 07:59 PM (x38rU)

105 Governor Newsom (D-CA) signed 10 new gun laws into existence.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:57 PM

Governor Healy (D-USSR) signed the most oppressive gun control law in MA history, and when it looked like we were going to get enough signatures for a ballot issue to repeal it, declared a non-existent "emergency" to make it go into effect 3 days before the election.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 08:00 PM (/C5Rl)

106 Put 100 rds through the S&W Model 52 last week. Really fun pistol to shoot. The Magtech ammo I have is really smokey though. Have to find something cleaner.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2026 08:00 PM (P4bJX)

107 101 Governor Newsom (D-CA) signed 10 new gun laws into existence.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:57 PM (0sNs1)
As Kalifornika goes, so goes America. Unconstitutional laws and demonic evil.

Posted by: Eromero at October 04, 2026 08:02 PM (LHPAg)

108 Think I'll burn an Undercrown Maduro in honor of one of the selections at the MoMe - and because I love them.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 04, 2026 07:33 PM (U/Byj)

Oliva Series G maduro churchill over here. Humidity chased me in last night, but that has mercifully abated. Now, should I pour my Flor de Cana 4 yr old rum over ice, or go whole hog and make a pina colada...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at October 04, 2026 08:02 PM (08OqX)

109 104 Governor Newsom (D-CA) signed 10 new gun laws into existence.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:57 PM (0sNs1)

And thereby created more work for trial lawyers for at least the next three to five years.

The Ivy League Liberal Lawyers Guild approves of these much needed laws EVEN though they will require years of legal process to ever sort out!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 04, 2026 08:02 PM (hOUT3)

110 Posted by: Ed L
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The rank and file military is more or less stuck on whatever Congress and the bureaucracy gives them and they have to make it work for a variety of missions. Spec Ops does what works for them within the confines of a budget and logistics.

But I see the same issue in civilian land where people try to make a cartridge into something it isn't with higher pressures, chamber and seating alterations, really light or really heavy bullets with different shanks and/or ogives, reshaping brass shoulders like PO Ackley did, etc. etc. Sort of the grass is always greener mentality. And the fact is we spend too much time and money on the tool and not enough on the software--e.g. training.

FWIW, Civilians have the advantage of being able to pick whatever cartridge best fits their needs and even having multiple rifles for different purposes here in the US (not so fortunate elsewhere!).

The military doesn't and often has had horrible weapons thrust upon them and good ones withdrawn due to vagaries of politics and bureaucracy. Makes sense for them to optimize what they have.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:05 PM (E4rtv)

111 106 Put 100 rds through the S&W Model 52 last week. Really fun pistol to shoot. The Magtech ammo I have is really smokey though. Have to find something cleaner.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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Use domestic ammo. Foreign ammo companies are often more limited on the powders they use than in the US and we shoot a lot more on average than other countries do. Try Federal Gold Medal wadcutters and you also get the advantage of more sensitive federal primers. You can find it for less than 30 bucks per 50 if you look.

Old Standard in the bullseye community.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:08 PM (E4rtv)

112 99 Evening all. Spent a doggy Saturday and Sunday making about 70 nitrated paper cartridges for the 1858 Remington New Army pistol.

Think I'll fill and cap off a few next Saturday morning. I really need a Garmin chronograph.
Posted by: rickb223
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Interesting. Look forward to the range report.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:09 PM (E4rtv)

113 Not much guns related to talk about.
I thought about, but didn't act on, a desire to buy a G29 slide and parts kit I thought about putting on my G30.

I like .45, but 10mm is pretty sexy. If I were to own just one gun/caliber....10mm might be it. It ain't cheap, no, but neither is buying a shit ton of random calibers. And 10mm is more capable than 9mm and 15 rounds of 10mm is 'enough gun' for me.

Anyway, carrying my G20 this week because my G21 was in the hallway and I needed a gun for my road trip.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 04, 2026 08:09 PM (s1VwS)

114 Anyone watch SpaceX Starship Flight 14 this week?

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 08:09 PM (leKdc)

115
Who thought Mike Tomlinson could do network NFL with a goofy voice?

Posted by: Auspex at October 04, 2026 08:09 PM (Y8DZL)

116 Governor Newsom (D-CA) signed 10 new gun laws into existence.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:57 PM (0sNs1)

And thereby created more work for trial lawyers for at least the next three to five years.
Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 07:59 PM (x38rU)

And...this drives up canoe insurance. All those accidents!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 04, 2026 08:11 PM (2WIwB)

117 I think I found the Federal at 1 place so far. 38 special wadcutter is harder to find than I expected. Found several places out of stock. I think I can order some directly from the manufactuer, but that's the most expsive option.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2026 08:11 PM (P4bJX)

118 "Water bottle"

It's been a while since I lived as far east as TX, but... I still am at risk of having a stroke every time someone from farther east (read: the SE) chimes in with "Why y'all carrying water? Just take a drink from the bubbler", as if it is a fundamental law of nature that a park/store/whatever with a water fountain is within a stone's throw at all times.

I don't know what it is but it just spikes my blood pressure.

Posted by: heya at October 04, 2026 08:12 PM (MRSnh)

119 Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2026 08:11 PM (P4bJX)
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Have you tried one of the ammo search tools at the bottom of the thread?

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 08:12 PM (leKdc)

120 The military doesn't and often has had horrible weapons thrust upon them and good ones withdrawn due to vagaries of politics and bureaucracy. Makes sense for them to optimize what they have.
Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:05 PM (E4rtv)

Literally the story of the M4/M16 family

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 04, 2026 08:12 PM (s1VwS)

121 The Grateful, anything I need to refill for your supplies?
Posted by: Ben Had
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Nothing I can think of at the moment, but thanks for asking.

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 08:14 PM (XfIK1)

122 Interesting. Look forward to the range report.
Posted by: whig

Will do! I'm having a blast farting around with black powder.
Nitrating the coffee filters to make the cartridges was way easier than I expected. Putting them together is a little time consuming, but can do it on a soggy weekend while watching YouTube videos about black power. 😊

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 08:14 PM (1O+Fl)

123 104 Governor Newsom (D-CA) signed 10 new gun laws into existence.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:57 PM (0sNs1)

And thereby created more work for trial lawyers for at least the next three to five years.
Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 07:59 PM (x38rU)

And until they 'win', the citizens live under the totalitarian laws.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 04, 2026 08:14 PM (s1VwS)

124 The Grateful, anything I need to refill for your supplies?
Posted by: Ben Had
************
Nothing I can think of at the moment, but thanks for asking.
Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 08:14 PM (XfIK1)
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Wound stapler!!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 08:15 PM (leKdc)

125 I like .45, but 10mm is pretty sexy. If I were to own just one gun/caliber....10mm might be it. It ain't cheap, no, but neither is buying a shit ton of random calibers. And 10mm is more capable than 9mm and 15 rounds of 10mm is 'enough gun' for me.

Anyway, carrying my G20 this week because my G21 was in the hallway and I needed a gun for my road trip.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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10 mm cartridge like the 41 Magnum are fascinating cartridges, in part, because both kind of flopped initially but the 10mm has had a rebirth and the 41 has continued to be a niche cartridge.

Ditto for the 38 Super. It had to wait a long time for it to be rediscovered by IPSC shooters from when it was developed.

As for me, nerve damage in my hands preclude any desire for anything above a 357 Magnum nowadays in a heavy revolver though.

The carpal tunnel problem in my left hand is getting worse and just had a steroid shot in it to hold off surgery until my wife
's cataract surgery is done.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:15 PM (E4rtv)

126 Governor Newsom (D-CA) signed 10 new gun laws into existence.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 07:57 PM
Governor Healy (D-USSR) signed the most oppressive gun control law in MA history, and when it looked like we were going to get enough signatures for a ballot issue to repeal it, declared a non-existent "emergency" to make it go into effect 3 days before the election.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Ah, the ever competitive evil lefty governors...waiting for NYS's to chime in.....

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 08:16 PM (XfIK1)

127 Wound stapler!!!
Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 08:15 PM

Does double duty for hanging targets!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 08:16 PM (/C5Rl)

128 Weasel, I have several in my Vet supplies.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 08:16 PM (nxLtX)

129 114 Anyone watch SpaceX Starship Flight 14 this week?

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 08:09 PM
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Watching with interest. They keep incrementally proving more and more capabilities. Flight 15 is going to be very interesting.

Posted by: TRex - orbital dino at October 04, 2026 08:16 PM (XfIK1)

130 Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 08:16 PM (nxLtX)
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I have a couple single use staplers in my trauma bag at the farm.

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 08:17 PM (leKdc)

131 Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 08:16 PM

The Savage is cleaned, zeroed, and ready. You're ringing steel at 1,000 this year.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 08:18 PM (/C5Rl)

132 Governor Healy (D-USSR) signed the most oppressive gun control law in MA history, and when it looked like we were going to get enough signatures for a ballot issue to repeal it, declared a non-existent "emergency" to make it go into effect 3 days before the election.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 08:00 PM

Would this be the very same Gov. Maura Healey who sued Exxon, bragging she “Stopped two gas pipelines,” and is now begging Trump’s Energy Secretary to fast-track a natural gas expansion before the election?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 08:18 PM (0sNs1)

133 Will do! I'm having a blast farting around with black powder.
Nitrating the coffee filters to make the cartridges was way easier than I expected. Putting them together is a little time consuming, but can do it on a soggy weekend while watching YouTube videos about black power. 😊
Posted by: rickb223
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Whole process is fascinating, I have read about it but have no personal experience with blackpowder reloading beyond a percussion muzzle loader. Looks like a hoot.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:18 PM (E4rtv)

134 Elon, pencil me in for the one way trip.

Posted by: Eromero at October 04, 2026 08:18 PM (LHPAg)

135 The Grateful, anything I need to refill for your supplies?
Posted by: Ben Had
************
Nothing I can think of at the moment, but thanks for asking.
Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 08:14 PM (XfIK1)
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Wound stapler!!!
Posted by: Weasel
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I hesitate to ask what you did with the one we had...

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 08:18 PM (XfIK1)

136 Would this be the very same Gov. Maura Healey who sued Exxon, bragging she “Stopped two gas pipelines,” and is now begging Trump’s Energy Secretary to fast-track a natural gas expansion before the election?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 08:18 PM

The very same See You Next Tuesday.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 08:19 PM (/C5Rl)

137 10 mm cartridge like the 41 Magnum are fascinating cartridges, in part, because both kind of flopped initially but the 10mm has had a rebirth and the 41 has continued to be a niche cartridge.

Ditto for the 38 Super. It had to wait a long time for it to be rediscovered by IPSC shooters from when it was developed.

As for me, nerve damage in my hands preclude any desire for anything above a 357 Magnum nowadays in a heavy revolver though.

The carpal tunnel problem in my left hand is getting worse and just had a steroid shot in it to hold off surgery until my wife
's cataract surgery is done.
Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:15 PM (E4rtv)

I think the 'magnum' in the name explains why the .41 mag stayed niche. The 10mm can be loaded from very spicy useful rounds that most FBI slackers couldn't handle down to .40 S&W loads. Heck, most 10mm pistols can chamber and fire .40.

I do have a .38 super and I like it enough but I'm not sure what problem it is trying to solve in 2026. It's not .357 SIG and that also has been abandoned more or less.

I'll ratchet up my prayers for you, for what it's worth.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 04, 2026 08:19 PM (s1VwS)

138 The Savage is cleaned, zeroed, and ready. You're ringing steel at 1,000 this year.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
**********
Woo Hoo!!!!!

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 08:20 PM (XfIK1)

139 .38 Wadcutter. SG Ammo has

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 04, 2026 08:20 PM (kZXPY)

140 10 mm cartridge like the 41 Magnum are fascinating cartridgesPosted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:15 PM

There is iron in these words of whig for all Morons to see.

Actually, there is iron in all of whig's words.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 08:21 PM (0sNs1)

141
Literally the story of the M4/M16 family
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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True. The M4 was a kludge and the recent Sig Fury 277 cartridge is turning into a fiasco for the military.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:21 PM (E4rtv)

142 I hesitate to ask what you did with the one we had...
Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 08:18 PM (XfIK1)
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Can't recall exactly but I'm sure wacky hijinks were involved.

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 08:21 PM (leKdc)

143 I envy you all going to Corsicana.
Maybe I can get back to shooting soon.

Posted by: GWB at October 04, 2026 08:22 PM (kU0PQ)

144 Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread folks. Nomming on pork pot roast from the crock pot. It is good.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 04, 2026 08:24 PM (i9VX2)

145 Howdy AOP!

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 08:24 PM (leKdc)

146 I think the 'magnum' in the name explains why the .41 mag stayed niche. The 10mm can be loaded from very spicy useful rounds that most FBI slackers couldn't handle down to .40 S&W loads. Heck, most 10mm pistols can chamber and fire .40.

I do have a .38 super and I like it enough but I'm not sure what problem it is trying to solve in 2026. It's not .357 SIG and that also has been abandoned more or less.

I'll ratchet up my prayers for you, for what it's worth.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Don't disagree with your analysis above. But a 41 Special could have and should have been created and the original intention was for police loadings about that power level.

Big heavy bullets have a good track record in stops--they open big holes for blood and their momentum carries them deep in their targets and are not deflected by bone, sinew, etc.

Corelokt rifle bullets are ancient in terms of bullet tech but still will bring home dinner if you can do the hit on the target.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:25 PM (E4rtv)

147 Whole process is fascinating, I have read about it but have no personal experience with blackpowder reloading beyond a percussion muzzle loader. Looks like a hoot.
Posted by: whig

I've shot centerfire & rimfire my whole life. Got into black powder last year. It's more "zen"-ful for the lack of a better word. You can crank out a box of 50 centerfire in no time. BP forces you to slow down. Makes the time spent more enjoyable. And then there's always reloading centerfire with BP like the 1873 SAA.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 08:25 PM (1O+Fl)

148 Here. Travel day since I have been voted off the island.
Staying at Jr. and DILIT’s new house in CT. Cat-sitting while DILIT goes off to receive a Major Award.
Gonna have to get CT’s non-resident permit since I’ll be back and forth a lot.
How about Reciprocity!?

Posted by: RI Red at October 04, 2026 08:26 PM (Gh3gd)

149 I have gone shooting with a buddy exactly once in my life. His guns, his ammo. It was very fun, and also very... zen, perhaps due to my novice nature and inclination to precision.

Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at October 04, 2026 08:28 PM (aJQbY)

150 "Literally the story of the M4/M16 family
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 04, 2026 08:12 PM (s1VwS)"

Took 50ish years to iron out the kinks, plus other revolutions in war making the individual rifle round take a backseat, but it is in a pretty decent state now. There is a reason more and more armies adopt m4ish rifles and it isn't because they're cheap, free, or cool.

The main issue with the platform now is that the bolt lugs are JUST big enough for 5.56, and there isn't room for beefier ones.

We are long past the days when the rounds originally intended for the m1 or their post war copies in the 6-7mm range make sense for a general issue weapon. Once we get fire control shrunk down to ACOG/m68 size and weight there is a case to be made for some of the COTS rounds that are smaller than the new .277 but still stay supersonic to about 1k yards, that kick the shit out of .308 in terms of external ballistics in a much smaller weapon. Until then the juice isn't worth the squeeze over 5.56.

Posted by: heya at October 04, 2026 08:29 PM (MRSnh)

151 MAE,
Thinking back to last week's dialogue or the week before that, I can certainly see why you are using optics on pistols due to speed of target acquisition and accuracy.

I am wondering perhaps if your team has consider lean and mean couple of guys with SBR rifles--they are most likely to end a killer with one shot and with optics are scary accurate at short range versus pistols. Easier to use suppressors on them as well.

I think a bad breeze is blowing in from the Middle East and now is the time to consider not just the leftoid anti religious nut jobs but what is happening in Nigeria and other bleeding borders where churches are being targeted by the Religion of Pieces.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:29 PM (E4rtv)

152 I think the 'magnum' in the name explains why the .41 mag stayed niche. The 10mm can be loaded from very spicy useful rounds that most FBI slackers couldn't handle down to .40 S&W loads. Heck, most 10mm pistols can chamber and fire .40.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 04, 2026 08:19 PM

If the .41 Mag had been developed before the .44 Mag, it likely would have done very well. It came out not long before 9mm began rising in popularity with police. Semis were gaining in popularity, police didn't like carrying big N-Frames, and police (who were gaining women recruits) didn't deal with the recoil well. (The .41 Mag 'police' load wasn't well distributed, anyway.)

The .40 S&W was developed to deal with the police recoil problems that the 10mm had. The 10mm was adopted by the FBI after the Miami massacre, which *of course* had to be the fault of their 9mms, not crappy marksmanship or crappy tactics.

Be careful firing .40 S&W in a Glock 10mm chamber.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 08:29 PM (0sNs1)

153 .38 Wadcutter. SG Ammo has Winchester brand in stock. I ordered some last week. What arrived doesn't have a cannalure around the case body, let alone the traditional two for wadcutter brass, the cases are not nickel plated, and I suspect the case is of standard construction and not the traditional thin-walled type.

The markings on the box claim the bullet is a hollow base.

I just hope it groups decently.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 04, 2026 08:30 PM (kZXPY)

154 I've shot centerfire & rimfire my whole life. Got into black powder last year. It's more "zen"-ful for the lack of a better word. You can crank out a box of 50 centerfire in no time. BP forces you to slow down. Makes the time spent more enjoyable. And then there's always reloading centerfire with BP like the 1873 SAA.
Posted by: rickb223

Makes sense. I kind of toyed with the idea of buying a Ruger Old Army percussion pistol but didn't at the time. Now absent Bill Ruger, Ruger is a far less interesting company today in its offerings than it was. His personality stamped the company but his absence has led more to simply copying other designs rather than breakthroughs as such.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:33 PM (E4rtv)

155 Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread folks. Nomming on pork pot roast from the crock pot. It is good.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I really need to learn to cook. I'm getting tired of the same old stuff.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 08:33 PM (1O+Fl)

156 I think I found the Federal at 1 place so far. 38 special wadcutter is harder to find than I expected.

At ~buck/round, I would consider reloading if you intend to shoot it as more than an occasional novelty. You can probably get a minimal setup (Lee hand press) for a c-note or so.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 04, 2026 08:35 PM (vTZFs)

157 The .40 S&W was developed to deal with the police recoil problems that the 10mm had. The 10mm was adopted by the FBI after the Miami massacre, which *of course* had to be the fault of their 9mms, not crappy marksmanship or crappy tactics.

Be careful firing .40 S&W in a Glock 10mm chamber.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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40 S&W ballistics almost perfectly duplicate the old 38-40 in 180 gr bullets. Was always a decent revolver cartridge and long gun combination but never caught on like the 44-40 or even the 32-20.

I finally ended up with a 40 S&W way past its heyday and it is a pretty fun cartridge itself and good self defense one on par with the 45 ACP. The key though is avoiding it in small and light packages for shootability and even reliability reasons--both are best in service size pistols or longer.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:37 PM (E4rtv)

158 rickb223, it's not that hard to pick up the basics! Two years of home ec was one of the best choices I ever made in junior high. Learned how to sew enough to do minor repairs (and to follow a pattern if I ever get *that* desperate), learned enough cooking for a decent variety of foods, lots of recipes that I can almost decipher

. Learned enough to innovate with what I've got, too. Still working on the whole 'plan a week's meals, with variety, while shopping' that Mom can somehow do.

Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at October 04, 2026 08:37 PM (aJQbY)

159 RMBS and Scoobs, I expect positive results and reports on TRex and Grateful at the 1,000 yard target!

Posted by: RI Red at October 04, 2026 08:37 PM (Gh3gd)

160 Although now that I say that, I bet you need a special die.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 04, 2026 08:38 PM (vTZFs)

161 Makes sense. I kind of toyed with the idea of buying a Ruger Old Army percussion pistol but didn't at the time. Now absent Bill Ruger, Ruger is a far less interesting company today in its offerings than it was. His personality stamped the company but his absence has led more to simply copying other designs rather than breakthroughs as such.
Posted by: whig

Talk about the Holy Grail of BP revolvers. Most are Uberti or Pietta. And U & P are like a Camry or a Civic. They'll run, but every once in a while you'll get a lemon. Their QC is suspect at times.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 08:39 PM (1O+Fl)

162 Literally the story of the M4/M16 family
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 04, 2026 08:12 PM (s1VwS)

I've always thought that the H&K 416 should have been adopted as the US Army's standard rifle. Instead, the USMC has made the H&K 416 the Marine standard rifle in its infantry and front-line units as the M27 while the US Army continues to soldier on with the M4A1. After 40 years, the invention of the H&K 416 fixed most of the problems seen with the early XM-16E1s through the present (overheating w/ full auto fire, reliability, mean rounds between failures, etc.). But the US Army rejected the H&K 416 primarily due to the cost per unit. Fair point, but most Marines who have used the M-16A4 or M4 before switching over to the M27 say that the M27 is a huge improvement.

Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 08:41 PM (x38rU)

163 Although now that I say that, I bet you need a special die.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 04, 2026 08:38 PM (vTZFs)

Oddbob, my RCBS .38 Spl. seating die has two heads - one conical and one flat. The flat one works fine on both semi and full wadcutters.

Posted by: RI Red at October 04, 2026 08:42 PM (Gh3gd)

164 rickb223, it's not that hard to pick up the basics! Two years of home ec was one of the best choices I ever made in junior high. Learned how to sew enough to do minor repairs (and to follow a pattern if I ever get *that* desperate), learned enough cooking for a decent variety of foods, lots of recipes that I can almost decipher . Learned enough to innovate with what I've got, too. Still working on the whole 'plan a week's meals, with variety, while shopping' that Mom can somehow do.
Posted by: RandomDave

I can do stews & chili, burgers & steaks, fajitas and tacos, the easy stuff. I just need to try the more involved recipes. I write down recipe ingredients needed and then forget what I wanted it for. 😔

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 08:42 PM (1O+Fl)

165 If you want a .40 S&W, there are good deals to be had with Glock .40 police trade-ins.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 08:43 PM (0sNs1)

166 153 .38 Wadcutter. SG Ammo has Winchester brand in stock. I ordered some last week. What arrived doesn't have a cannalure around the case body, let alone the traditional two for wadcutter brass, the cases are not nickel plated, and I suspect the case is of standard construction and not the traditional thin-walled type.

The markings on the box claim the bullet is a hollow base.

I just hope it groups decently.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Cannelures are better for ammo reliability but some accuracy buffs in shooting competitions hate them as it can reduce accuracy a bit by deforming the dead soft wadcutter bullets.

Those are normally swaged pure lead rather than cast alloy, Comes in rolls of lead wire that is snipped and then pressured through a swager for sizing by hydraulic pressure like toothpaste through a tube.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:43 PM (E4rtv)

167 Waiting all day for that Highway Patrol link,
to issue yearly reminder that today is
National Broderick Crawford Day.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 04, 2026 08:48 PM (zdLoL)

168 Dang. I'd love to try the MoMe but between my circumstances and mobility issues...

I keep saying "maybe next year". Guess I have to again.

Hope there's enough "next years".

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at October 04, 2026 08:50 PM (ENA4W)

169 Hope to attend a TxMoMe, eventually. It's usually on a birthday weekend, so the notion gets vetoed. And use of firearms is no longer possible due to neurological problems. But it pleases me a lot to see the Horde prepare, for the attendees (especially the first-timers, yay Hadrian VII!), and for Weasel to get it all ready. Have fun, everyone!

Posted by: Nazdar at October 04, 2026 08:51 PM (NcvvS)

170 Tomorrow I begin The Cleanse. Yup. Time for the colonoscopy.

Second one. Yay, 60! Next time will likely be 5 years, as my lifespan ratchets down. The older you get, the more frequent the invasions.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wearing a Bill the Cat T-shirt at October 04, 2026 08:51 PM (0aYVJ)

171 100 S'puppy, Nebraska football is 5-0???? Congrats, brother!
Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 07:56 PM (XfIK1)

Thank you, ma'am. They had a dreadful first half yesterday but somehow led at halftime 28-23 and won 48-23. Need to tighten things up for this week's visit from the defending national champion Indiana Hoosiers.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at October 04, 2026 08:52 PM (xVpNO)

172 RMBS and Scoobs, I expect positive results and reports on TRex and Grateful at the 1,000 yard target!
Posted by: RI Red
**********
Ah, there you are... I was just getting ready to mark your permanent record as "absent without excuse"....

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 08:53 PM (XfIK1)

173 For the 'rons getting colonoscopies, don't forget to ask if they can find your urologist's class ring while they're in there.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 08:53 PM (0sNs1)

174 Darn, I have a great picture of the spawn with two friends dressed up for homecoming with guns.

Posted by: lin-duh at October 04, 2026 08:53 PM (VCgbV)

175 i got some 40 last week cheaper than 9mm. It's the Blazer aluminum, but that runs fine in what I have.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2026 08:54 PM (P4bJX)

176 Wound stapler!!!
Posted by: Weasel

I have 4 pack of wound clot to add to the supplies.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2026 08:54 PM (NnhvP)

177 165 If you want a .40 S&W, there are good deals to be had with Glock .40 police trade-ins.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Lots of old service Glocks out there in 40. Relatively cheap. Get the service size though or better as subcompact or compact 40 S&Ws are more unpleasant and generally less accurate to shoot due to recoil enhancement.

Personally though, I would go with the Beretta PX4, the M&P, the XD, or the older Smith steel 40 S&W Third Generation pistols in service length barrel size or longer. The Beretta with its unique rotating recoil makes a 40 S&W recoil feel like a 9mm, the M&P has better ergonomics and a thumb safety on some models, the XD is somewhat similar to the M&P but with a grip safety if you like those, and the old third generation in steel by Smith has the weight to tame the 40 S&W sharp initial recoil impulse into a much softer experience.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:54 PM (E4rtv)

178 162 Literally the story of the M4/M16 family
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 04, 2026 08:12 PM (s1VwS)

I've always thought that the H&K 416 should have been adopted as the US Army's standard rifle. Instead, the USMC has made the H&K 416 the Marine standard rifle in its infantry and front-line units as the M27 while the US Army continues to soldier on with the M4A1. After 40 years, the invention of the H&K 416 fixed most of the problems seen with the early XM-16E1s through the present (overheating w/ full auto fire, reliability, mean rounds between failures, etc.). But the US Army rejected the H&K 416 primarily due to the cost per unit. Fair point, but most Marines who have used the M-16A4 or M4 before switching over to the M27 say that the M27 is a huge improvement.
Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 08:41 PM (x38rU)

The only knock on the M27 is weight. It's a really good AR platform

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 04, 2026 08:55 PM (s1VwS)

179 Ah, there you are... I was just getting ready to mark your permanent record as "absent without excuse"....
Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 08:53 PM (XfIK1)

Only two words of advice:
Low magnification while you are looking for the target.
No wobbly shit!

Posted by: RI Red at October 04, 2026 08:57 PM (GSdlI)

180 I have a great picture of the spawn with two friends dressed up for homecoming with guns.
Posted by: lin-duh

Looking forward to seeing you again!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2026 08:57 PM (NnhvP)

181 Bluebell the Hen endorses the gub-handling rules video.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 04, 2026 08:58 PM (3mtzY)

182 175 i got some 40 last week cheaper than 9mm. It's the Blazer aluminum, but that runs fine in what I have.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

I've never had problems with aluminum Blazer in 9mm, 40, or 45, even 38 Special back in the day.

I actually keep a few of the cases now and again to make bullet dummies for die setup on bullet seating for reloading. Makes it quick and easy to dial in bullet seating for pistol dies if you have a dummy with the specs rather than using live ammo. Aluminum does not affect dies like steel cases would doing the same thing plus steel can rust.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 08:58 PM (E4rtv)

183 Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 04, 2026 08:58 PM (3mtzY)
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Howdy!

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 08:58 PM (leKdc)

184 >>Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 08:42 PM (1O+Fl)

Amigo, do you have The Deplorable Gourmet? It's wonderful for any level of cook.

Posted by: Nazdar at October 04, 2026 08:59 PM (NcvvS)

185 The only knock on the M27 is weight. It's a really good AR platform
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 04, 2026 08:55 PM (s1VwS)

I have one of the semi-auto clones of the M27 H&K USA sold a couple of years ago. It's quite accurate by my standards. I brought it to the TX MoMe a couple of years ago.

Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 08:59 PM (x38rU)

186 I want to say Thank You to all of the first timers that are joining us for this years MoMe. We all look forward to meeting you.

Thank You to all of you that have returned year after year to make this such a special time.

Thank you Weasel for all you do.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 08:59 PM (nxLtX)

187 Yes, Piper did an excellent job on the MoMe fashion choices.

OTOH, if the lady in the sequin disco dress and high heels does show up, I don't think any of the Morons are going to kick her out of the party for eating too much bacon!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 04, 2026 09:00 PM (HlyYF)

188 Be careful firing .40 S&W in a Glock 10mm chamber.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 08:29 PM (0sNs1)

So far, so good. No malf in 200 rounds (I don't have a lot of .40)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 04, 2026 09:00 PM (s1VwS)

189 Thank you Weasel for all you do.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 08:59 PM (nxLtX)
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Thanks, but I don't do a tenth of what you and others do. YOU are the best.

Everyone, please tell Ben Had that she is the best.

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 09:01 PM (leKdc)

190 M27 say that the M27 is a huge improvement.
Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 08:41 PM (x38rU)

The only knock on the M27 is weight. It's a really good AR platform
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Piston rifles are easier to use with suppressors and I think we are about to see a surge in those being widely available and issues finally for civilians now as well as military.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:02 PM (E4rtv)

191 rickb223, are we going to see you in TX this year?

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 09:02 PM (XfIK1)

192 Amigo, do you have The Deplorable Gourmet? It's wonderful for any level of cook.
Posted by: Nazdar

No. And I have no excuse. 😢

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:03 PM (1O+Fl)

193 I have 4 pack of wound clot to add to the supplies.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
************
And a mighty thank you for that!

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 09:03 PM (XfIK1)

194 Please don't. I have been given a wonderful gift by all of you.

YOU ALL ARE THE BEST

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 09:03 PM (nxLtX)

195 Ben Had IS THE BEST!!! 🥇🤩🥇

Posted by: lin-duh at October 04, 2026 09:04 PM (VCgbV)

196 Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 09:03 PM (nxLtX)
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Oh, OK. Everyone is the best.

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 09:05 PM (leKdc)

197 186 I want to say Thank You to all of the first timers that are joining us for this years MoMe. We all look forward to meeting you.

Thank You to all of you that have returned year after year to make this such a special time.

Thank you Weasel for all you do.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Wish I could be there this year but alas. Health, money, and family duties are keeping me away this year. Wish everyone else can attend and make merry. Too few opportunities nowadays for such joyous occasions.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:05 PM (E4rtv)

198 lin-duh, you are a huge reason this came about so take a bow.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 09:05 PM (nxLtX)

199 Ben Had, thank you for everything you did to make this happen. Even if I can't make it there this year.

Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 09:06 PM (x38rU)

200 Ben Had, you are unexcelled!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 09:06 PM (0sNs1)

201 Well, another thrilling caper solved easily in 25 minutes.
At least Sgt Williams doesn't throw his bullets.

And that sniper had no wobbly s**t.

Yay, good shooting!

Posted by: GWB at October 04, 2026 09:06 PM (kU0PQ)

202 Lin-duh is the best!

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 09:07 PM (leKdc)

203 Weasel, seconded and she makes cookies too!

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 09:08 PM (nxLtX)

204 No. And I have no excuse. 😢
Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:03 PM

There are steps you can take to rectify this deplorable error.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 09:08 PM (0sNs1)

205 I really want a .38spl/.357mag lever gun with a threaded barrel, but they are basically unobtanium around here these days. Sigh.

Posted by: ballistic at October 04, 2026 09:08 PM (oqH4h)

206 I do nothing.
Weasel is the best!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at October 04, 2026 09:08 PM (VCgbV)

207 Duncanthrax, your friendship is a very special gift.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 09:09 PM (nxLtX)

208 Piston rifles are easier to use with suppressors and I think we are about to see a surge in those being widely available and issues finally for civilians now as well as military.
Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:02 PM (E4rtv)

+1 on that, whig.

Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 09:09 PM (x38rU)

209 " I have 4 pack of wound clot to add to the supplies.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron"

Annual reminder that things like quick-clot and other blow out kit items are all FSA/HSA approved

Posted by: heya at October 04, 2026 09:10 PM (MRSnh)

210 Weasel, seconded and she makes cookies too!
Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 09:08 PM (nxLtX)
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And is the world's greatest Prize Wench!

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 09:10 PM (leKdc)

211 So far, so good. No malf in 200 rounds (I don't have a lot of .40)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

It is more that the 40 S&W headspaces on the case opening like the 9mm and depending on your extractor grip, you will suffer from too much headspace. Normally not much of a problem but like firing a bunch of 38 Specials in 357 chambers, you get crud, flamecutting at times, and other deterioration of the 10mm chamber in the barrel which can affect firing the primary round (10mm).

They actually make reamers to clean the crud out of 357 revolvers and return the chamber to spec for those that shoot a lot of 38 Special (at a much lower pressure) in 357 chambers.

I would definitely stay away from using cast bullets in 40 S&W in 10mm chambers particularly. That is one of the biggest contributors to mucking up a 357 chamber in revolvers from firing 38 Specials.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:11 PM (E4rtv)

212 Not to be confused with our Bacon Wench, Jordan61

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 09:11 PM (leKdc)

213 rickb223, are we going to see you in TX this year?
Posted by: The Grateful - R

Yes. I will definitely be there on Saturday and trying to work out Friday. It's looking good.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:11 PM (1O+Fl)

214 rickb223, Great news.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 09:12 PM (nxLtX)

215 rickb223, are we going to see you in TX this year?
Posted by: The Grateful - R
Yes. I will definitely be there on Saturday and trying to work out Friday. It's looking good.
Posted by: rickb223
***********
Excellent. We can talk basic recipes....

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 09:12 PM (XfIK1)

216 Hmmm, "Shooting the floor is easy to fix."

It is if you're rich enough to live in a single family dwelling, not on the second floor with other people or pets on the first floor. If you live in an apartment above the first floor, it's not easy.

Also, Grandma's Wedding China is not "easy to fix" either. Just saying.

Posted by: GWB at October 04, 2026 09:13 PM (kU0PQ)

217 The bacon wench will be there this year, right?

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 09:13 PM (XfIK1)

218 There are steps you can take to rectify this deplorable error.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

I just did. Already had an Amazon order coming on Tuesday so it was easy enough to drop it into the delivery.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:13 PM (1O+Fl)

219 OK, 9:15 thank you time!

Thank you!

Appreciate all y'all being here and hope to see you here next Sunday, and then the following Friday in Corsicana!

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 09:15 PM (leKdc)

220 205 I really want a .38spl/.357mag lever gun with a threaded barrel, but they are basically unobtanium around here these days. Sigh.
Posted by: ballistic
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Ruger after acquiring Marlin took some time bringing those back in the 1894 frame but they are now rolling with them but a huge backlog of customers for them. You might have better luck though looking for a Rossi Puma which is based on the 1892 Winchester design. You might have to have a gunsmith thread the barrel though.

I think Rossi does some 'tacticool' versions now and again in black plastic stocks, picatinny top rails, and threaded barrels on occasion. Now would probably be the time to start looking for them online.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:15 PM (E4rtv)

221 Excellent. We can talk basic recipes....
Posted by: The Grateful - R

👍🏻

I actually won a chili cook off atwerk one year. Secret ingredient? Bison and real chili peppers. Not just powder.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:16 PM (1O+Fl)

222 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 09:17 PM (x38rU)

223 Posted by: Ed L at October 04, 2026 09:17 PM (
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My pleasure!

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 09:18 PM (leKdc)

224 Apropos of nothing,

The whole headspacing issue is why the 38 Special never did that well after introduction. Its specs wandered and it was a semi rim cartridge that theoretically headspaced on the rim. The accuracy was poor as chambers varied in length and thus from pistol to pistol, you had often too much headspace so accuracy depending on how much the extractor bit on the case for consistency.

It now is headspaced on the case mouth and the accuracy problems went away. Older ones prior to IPSC revolution in the late 70's and 80's though are likely to need a modern barrel fitted that headspaces on the case mouth.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:19 PM (E4rtv)

225 219 OK, 9:15 thank you time!

Thank you!

Appreciate all y'all being here and hope to see you here next Sunday, and then the following Friday in Corsicana!
Posted by: Weasel
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Probably not here next Sunday and won't be at the MoMeet this year. Mebbe next.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:20 PM (E4rtv)

226 One of the best heart memories about the MoMe is watching Spawn grow into the gracious young lady she is.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 09:21 PM (nxLtX)

227 Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:20 PM (E4rtv)
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Would like to meet you in person someday!

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 09:21 PM (leKdc)

228 Do you mean .38 Super, Whig?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 04, 2026 09:21 PM (i9VX2)

229 I really want a .38spl/.357mag lever gun with a threaded barrel, but they are basically unobtanium around here these days. Sigh.
Posted by: ballistic

Henry H12 Explorer Carbine .357 Magnum/.38 Spl
It may cost a pretty penny to order one, but that one has a threaded barrel.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:22 PM (1O+Fl)

230 whig, I'm know that you are going to be here one day and I so look forward to it.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 09:23 PM (nxLtX)

231 https://tinyurl.com/3fzct47e

Rickb223 - here's the link. Decades of not-boring, guaranteed!

Posted by: Nazdar at October 04, 2026 09:23 PM (NcvvS)

232 You might want to keep an eye on Brazil.

Looks like the Kalshi and other betting markets were wrong again. Unexpectedly.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2026 09:23 PM (viF8m)

233 Rickb223 - here's the link. Decades of not-boring, guaranteed!
Posted by: Nazdar

It'll be delivered to work on Tuesday. 😁

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:25 PM (1O+Fl)

234 >>Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:13 PM (1O+Fl)

Just saw this. Well done, sir!

Posted by: Nazdar at October 04, 2026 09:26 PM (NcvvS)

235 Good grief, I didn't even provide my range report. Far better session than last time, guess the muscle memory is there - just needs to be exercised. Majority of the shot were in the 3 inch circle. But I got to wondering about those which were not. Went thru the fundamentals list, but still not consistent. So then I started examining my physical posture, and realized I was tensing up alot when I went to shoot. So, keeping the arms straight and grip firm, I tried to relax most of the rest of my body. And it worked. 5/5 every time. So, I'm adding another sub-fundamental to the list!

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 09:26 PM (XfIK1)

236 Story of my life. I bought my Henry Lever .38/.357 two years before the side gate loading came out.

FML.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:26 PM (1O+Fl)

237 Thanks, Boss Weasel. I’ll be back in operation this coming week.
New AR-10 BCG arrives tomorrow. I WILL have a range report.
Assuming Grateful didn’t muck up the rifle the last time she shot it . . .

Posted by: RI Red at October 04, 2026 09:27 PM (GSdlI)

238 >>> 108
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Now, should I pour my Flor de Cana 4 yr old rum over ice, or go whole hog and make a pina colada...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at October 04, 2026 08:02 PM (08OqX)

Yes.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 04, 2026 09:27 PM (3mtzY)

239 And thanks to all teh Weasel and everyone today for making the thread special.

Range report.
FWIW, I fitted a scope to a 1943 Savage Lend Lease No. 4, Mk 1* Lee Enfield. When I got it, someone had locked the bolt into the receiver on a barrelled action. No stock, etc. Matching barrel, bolt, and receiver only.

The receiver was tapped on the side of the action with three screws but no scope mount. It took about ten years to finally identify the missing scope mount which was a Parker Hales A29 side mount which I finally obtained. Another year or so before getting the matching Parker Hale scope rail and the Parker Hale rings.

Finally leveled, mounted the scope, and used a Tasco barrel collimator to mount the scope. Bedded the scope rail to the scope mount with epoxy. Put on a Vortex 3x9 scope on it with long eye relief. That was my weekend project. Done after a mere twelve years or so.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:28 PM (E4rtv)

240 G'Night, all. Almost done with my cold and early gym time tomorrow. God bless!

Posted by: Nazdar at October 04, 2026 09:29 PM (NcvvS)

241 Finally leveled, mounted the scope, and used a Tasco barrel collimator to mount the scope. Bedded the scope rail to the scope mount with epoxy. Put on a Vortex 3x9 scope on it with long eye relief. That was my weekend project. Done after a mere twelve years or so.
Posted by: whig

Slow down. What's the rush? 😂

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:30 PM (1O+Fl)

242 The guy in the Don't Touch A Gun video has a great voice for that particular bit of instruction. Calm, baritone, soothing but with authority.

And he's right about rules.

One of the things in flight training was all of the Notes, Warnings, and Cautions written in the manual was "They are written in blood." They were all written in there because a jet got bent or crashed or hurt people. It's the deadlier, more mechanical version of: "Doc, it hurts when I do this." "Well, don't do that."

Posted by: GWB at October 04, 2026 09:31 PM (kU0PQ)

243 Thanks, Boss Weasel. I’ll be back in operation this coming week.
New AR-10 BCG arrives tomorrow. I WILL have a range report.
Assuming Grateful didn’t muck up the rifle the last time she shot it . . .
Posted by: RI Red
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Hello? I'm not the one who blew it up. In fact, when I was shooting it, it was consistently hitting 300yds.
But glad to hear there will be a new one for next year...

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 09:31 PM (XfIK1)

244 Now, should I pour my Flor de Cana 4 yr old rum over ice, or go whole hog and make a pina colada...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at October 04, 2026 08:02 PM (08OqX)

Yes.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 04, 2026 09:27 PM (3mtzY)

For a long time, I bought only Flor de Cana 7 year old, and 12 for special occasions. But now they market it as "carbon-neutral" spirits, and that sort of virtue signaling does not sit well with me. And the price has gone up enough that Lambs or Captain Morgan is much more attractive.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 04, 2026 09:31 PM (i9VX2)

245 RMBS and Scoobs, I expect positive results and reports on TRex and Grateful at the 1,000 yard target!
Posted by: RI Red at October 04, 2026 08:37 PM

We'll make this happen.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 09:32 PM (GfgtS)

246 228 Do you mean .38 Super, Whig?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Dammit, yes I did. Mind was on other things.

FWIW those that are probably not interested. Handgun (and a few really old rifle cartridges) either headspace on the rim, the semi rim (much reduced rim size), or on the case mouth. The 38 Special and most revolver cartridges are rimmed cartridges and headspace on the rim. A few are semi rimmed like the 38 Super where the rim diameter is barely larger than the back of the case so that the extractor can grab it. Problems with that include brass variations, little or no sealing of the chamber, and wandering headspace depending on factors like extractor tension and wear. Last are teh modern rimless types like the 45 ACP, 9mm etc. These all headspace on the case mouth.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:32 PM (E4rtv)

247 >>Now, should I pour my Flor de Cana 4 yr old rum over ice, or go whole hog and make a pina colada...

It would be a sacrilege to waste rum that good in a pina colada.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2026 09:32 PM (viF8m)

248 Posted by: RI Red at October 04, 2026 09:27 PM (GSdlI)
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Congratulations!

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 09:33 PM (leKdc)

249 I'm almost embarrassed to admit I have two of those steel rules. And the micrometers. I got a lot of use out them. I also have dial and vernier calipers that whippersnappers wouldn't even know what they're looking at. I still have my uncle's slide rule from when he worked for nasa.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at October 04, 2026 09:33 PM (kvLZQ)

250 It would be a sacrilege to waste rum that good in a pina colada.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2026 09:32 PM (viF8m)

Unless it leads to getting caught in the rain with Sydney Sweeney.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 04, 2026 09:34 PM (i9VX2)

251 Duncanthrax, your friendship is a very special gift.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 04, 2026 09:09 PM

As is yours!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 09:34 PM (0sNs1)

252 Time to punch out. Thanks again, Weasel for a great Gun Thread. I'll be in San Antonio for the next one, and God willing, I'll see y'all in Corsicana!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 09:35 PM (GfgtS)

253 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2026 09:35 PM (GfgtS)
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Adios amigo!

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 09:36 PM (leKdc)

254 >>> 192 Amigo, do you have The Deplorable Gourmet? It's wonderful for any level of cook.
Posted by: Nazdar

No. And I have no excuse. 😢
Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:03 PM (1O+Fl)

Remind me to bring my 'extra' copy to the MoMee.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 04, 2026 09:36 PM (3mtzY)

255 Slow down. What's the rush? 😂
Posted by: rickb223
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LOL.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:36 PM (E4rtv)

256 See you in TX RMBS. Enjoy your time in San Antonio!

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 09:36 PM (XfIK1)

257 Story of my life. I bought my Henry Lever .38/.357 two years before the side gate loading came out.

FML.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:26 PM

Why worry? With sufficient accuracy, you are one and done.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2026 09:37 PM (0sNs1)

258 >>Unless it leads to getting caught in the rain with Sydney Sweeney.

I've got a Pina Colada story. Remind me to tell you someday.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2026 09:38 PM (viF8m)

259 It's late, so...
Thanks for the thread, Weasel.
I'll go through and read the comments, so thank you Horde.

Posted by: GWB at October 04, 2026 09:40 PM (kU0PQ)

260 No. And I have no excuse. 😢
Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:03 PM (1O+Fl)

Remind me to bring my 'extra' copy to the MoMee.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Just ordered one. Already had an Amazon order coming.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:41 PM (1O+Fl)

261 Nite GWB, hope we get to see you next year at either NoVA or TX...or both!

Posted by: The Grateful - R at October 04, 2026 09:41 PM (XfIK1)

262 Posted by: GWB at October 04, 2026 09:40 PM (kU0PQ)
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My pleasure. Thanks for being here GWB.

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 09:41 PM (leKdc)

263 DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, wear Piper's Pants!

/I am disappoint she didn't include a selfie from last year's TX MoMe ... [h/t Sponge!]

Posted by: ShainS at October 04, 2026 09:42 PM (fTvJp)

264 Why worry? With sufficient accuracy, you are one and done.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

True, but a side gate is soooo much easier to top off than pulling the entire tube. Not that I've ever encountered hogs. 😡

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:43 PM (1O+Fl)

265 A bit more on case rims. Back in the olden days, mercuric primers were used in brass cases and the brass alloy production means meant inconsistent quality. Mercury softens brass over time (which is why reloading brass cartridges that used a mercuric primer--gone since the early 30s' is a no no.). So to prevent a blast of hot gas back at the shooter, both rifle and handgun cartridges used rims to in effect seal the chamber and deflect safely whatever gas might escape from a ruptured cartridge upon firing.

Brass quality got better, mercuric primers were replaced, and machine guns and semi auto firearms came about. Case rims create a lot of problems for semi and full auto firing. It can be done but better not. The US and Germans went to rimless cases (which means the rim is not larger than in diameter than the back of the case proper) which feed better in semi auto and full auto rifles, machine guns, etc. and we get a divergence--rifles headspaced on the shoulder in rimless cartridges and straight walled pistol cartridges like the 9mm and the 45 ACP headspaced on the case mouth.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:43 PM (E4rtv)

266 DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, wear Piper's Pants!

/I am disappoint she didn't include a selfie from last year's TX MoMe ... [h/t Sponge!]
Posted by: ShainS

Under no circumstances could I ever be accused of doing that.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 09:44 PM (1O+Fl)

267 Thanks Weasel and thanks Horde!

Posted by: TRex - unwobbly dino at October 04, 2026 09:44 PM (XfIK1)

268 I’m still trying to figure out what’s wrong with the chick in the dress…

: )

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 04, 2026 09:45 PM (6jna9)

269 Posted by: TRex - unwobbly dino at October 04, 2026 09:44 PM (XfIK1)
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You bet! Thanks for being here!

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 09:45 PM (leKdc)

270 258 >>Unless it leads to getting caught in the rain with Sydney Sweeney.

I've got a Pina Colada story. Remind me to tell you someday.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2026 09:38 PM (viF8m)

OK Rupert.

: )

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 04, 2026 09:47 PM (6jna9)

271 Headspace itself is a mystical mention in firearms but it is really no more than a set specification so that mfg ammo can be safely fired in a firearm that matches that specification with some variance.

Too long headspace creates some troubles, too short more. Firearms that deviate too much from teh specification whether it is wear, improper mfg, or bubba alterations can risk safety, generally reduce ability to reload the brass, and can have accuracy and functioning problems.

Nowadays, if avoiding antique oddities, all pistols and rifles headspace on either the rim of the cartridge, the case mouth, or on bottleneck cartridges, a reference point on the neck of the case back to the bolt head.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:48 PM (E4rtv)

272 Would like to meet you in person someday!
Posted by: Weasel

Ditto.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:49 PM (E4rtv)

273 BTW, Thanks AOP for correcting my cobwebs in the mental machinery post.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:50 PM (E4rtv)

274 "The BATF is not out to get you."
Hah!

Better to say "Some of the agents in the BATF are not out to get you."

Patrick Tate Adamiak

Posted by: GWB at October 04, 2026 09:53 PM (kU0PQ)

275 Good night folks.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2026 09:53 PM (E4rtv)

276 Thanks Weasel

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2026 09:58 PM (NnhvP)

277 Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2026 09:58 PM (NnhvP)
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Sure! See you soon.

Posted by: Weasel at October 04, 2026 09:59 PM (TMF5Z)

278 Sure! See you soon.
Posted by: Weasel

Really looking forward to it!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2026 10:00 PM (NnhvP)

279 Thanks Weasel!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 04, 2026 10:01 PM (HlyYF)

280 Finito!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at October 04, 2026 10:01 PM (3rv/9)

281 Night all. 3:35 is coming quick.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2026 10:07 PM (1O+Fl)

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