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The Red-Green Alliance Takes Another Blow as Oil Traffic Through the Strait of Hormuz Rebounds to 98% of the Pre-War Level
Iran recently pleaded for another seven-day ceasefire.
When America rejected that -- actually, the "negotiators" were told to leave -- Iran published its letter urging Democrats to side with Iran as usual and vote against the GOP. This is why: the world is getting most of its oil through the Strait, protected by the US military, and Iran is getting zero barrels through, stopped by the blockade. Literally all we now have to do is maintain the blockade, keep the west-side of the Straight clear, and wait for Iran to collapse. Even the NYT admits Iran is losing the War of the Strait.Mideast Oil Exports Rebound Even as Prices Remain Elevated More tankers are moving through the Strait of Hormuz as shippers gain confidence, but the global supply of oil is still below demand.That's a grudging estimate. Most other say 12-13 million barrels per day, plus another 6-8 million through Saudi Arabia's East-to-West oil pipeline, meaning the we're now seeing about 20 million barrels per day again, or close enough to make no difference.
By Peter Eavis
Sept. 29, 2026
Oil exports from the Middle East have risen sharply this month, some oil analysts say, taking them closer to the level they were at before Iran shut down the Strait of Hormuz in March, a rebound that could ease some pressure on global energy prices. In September, an average of 10 million barrels of oil has gone through the waterway daily, according to Kpler, a firm that tracks oil tankers. Separately, six million barrels of crude a day has left the Persian Gulf states this month through pipelines and ports that bypass the strait, Kpler's data shows.
Before the war with Iran began at the end of February, around 19 million barrels of crude left the region daily through the waterway and other routes. Because of the difficulty in tracking tankers, export totals supplied by analysts might not reflect the true flow of oil, but most experts say volumes rose significantly this month. The turnaround has most noticeably occurred in the strait, even though Iran continues to attack tankers. A U.S. military operation aimed at protecting the vessels from the attacks appears to have encouraged more shipments by big exporting countries, like Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. "They are getting a substantial amount of oil out, and it is increasing over time as shippers' confidence goes up," said Eugene Gholz, an associate professor of political science at the University of Notre Dame and an expert on conflict in the strait. President Trump, members of his administration and U.S. military officials have said for weeks that the Strait of Hormuz is open, and that tankers are moving oil through the strait.
🚨 JUST IN: The “experts” just entered a state of SHOCK after crude exports surge to 98% of pre-war levels around Hormuz, per WSJ
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) October 1, 2026
Saudi Arabia RESTORED pipeline flows and exports are now nearly 18 MILLION across a 10 day average 🔥
They said it was impossible, but it JUST… pic.twitter.com/8kvl9iam6B
Tonight on God Bless America 62:
— Eric Abbenante (@EricAbbenante) September 30, 2026
Even CNN is admitting that oil flowing through the Strait of Hormuz is at the highest levels since the war started.
Jake Tapper: "Gulf oil producers are managing to get a lot more oil through the Strait of Hormuz. Marine data trackers say oil… pic.twitter.com/QyiM2Rz0kk
In a post on the social media platform X on Thursday, Bessent said that "Iran loaded ZERO crude oil onto tankers in September," adding that the restrictions imposed by Trump were "cutting off the Iranian regime's most critical source of revenue." The Treasury Secretary hailed the Operation Economic Outcast, saying that the move was "severing the economic lifelines that have allowed Tehran to finance its terrorist agenda."There may be a small amount of oil getting out in tanker trucks, but that's no way to move a lot of oil. Visual proof of Bessent's claim:About 20 empty Iranian tankers are now stranded off the coast of Sri Lanka. They cannot go back to Iran because of the blockade. And the US is pressuring Sri Lanka not to allow them to refuel and resupply. The ships are empty, having dumped their oil off in China and India, and now languishing with no cargo.
🇮🇷🇺🇸 Around 20 empty Iranian tankers are drifting off Sri Lanka with food and water running low as US pressure cuts off their supplies
— Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) October 1, 2026
The blockade has kept them from going home since July, and when they moved toward Sri Lanka, the US embassy warned local suppliers to stop… pic.twitter.com/s2caPYkabv
The U.S. pressure campaign against Iran has left dozens of Iranian or Iran-linked tankers stranded in Asian waters, unable to return home or access ports and suppliers because of sanctions risks.
— Clash Report (@clashreport) October 1, 2026
Around 20 empty tankers are drifting near Sri Lanka alone, with crews reportedly… pic.twitter.com/3YFrPqO6y5
Shipping through the Strait of Hormuz has moved back toward pre-war levels -- and Iran's domestic deterioration is increasingly difficult to dismiss. Iran's rial fell to roughly 2.2 million to the dollar in September, from about 958,000 a year earlier. Inflation is nearing 70%, food prices have more than doubled, and unemployment is above 9%. The latest official figure put youth unemployment at 20.1%. Oil exports have also collapsed, falling to roughly 260,000 barrels a day from 1.7 million a year earlier. The bigger story is what those numbers mean for the IRGC's power. The IRGC still must pay its own forces while financing allies and militias across Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen. Washington has been squeezing that network's financial lifelines by targeting oil exports, shadow fleets, exchange houses, front companies and the foreign buyers willing to take sanctioned Iranian crude. China matters most here: Treasury estimates that China buys about 90% of Iran's oil exports. In April, Washington sanctioned Hengli Petrochemical's Dalian refinery after it bought billions of dollars of Iranian petroleum, including crude linked to Iran's armed forces. That is the difference between sanctions on paper and sanctions that bite. ... China's political strategy has come under strain, too. Beijing celebrated the 2023 Saudi-Iran agreement as proof that China could stabilize the region. Three years later, however, Saudi Arabia is again confronting Iranian and Iran-backed threats around Hormuz and Bab al-Mandab, while Beijing has had to press Tehran to rein in the Houthis after Saudi appeals with no success. ... The IRGC has also lost much of the leverage it once derived from threatening Gulf energy flows. Saudi Arabia's East-West pipeline can carry up to 7 million barrels a day toward the Red Sea, with roughly 5 million available for export. The UAE has gone further: It left OPEC on May 1, freeing itself from production quotas, and pushed crude output above 3.8 million barrels a day in June.And oil prices should start falling quickly. And then what will the Democrats say? Dubai is also building an alternate port on its southern coast to bypass the Strait completely. It won't be finished for another two years, but after that, Iran will never be able to hold the world to ransom again, even if the IRGC is still in charge. Which I don't think they will be. I was alerted to this by this video by Max Afterburner. He's an Air Force pilot and generally rah-rah and go USA, so you can discount his predictions a bit, but he thinks Iran is now begging for a "deal" -- one which they'll never honor, of course -- because they are now on the brink of collapse but are no longer inflicting reciprocal pain on Trump or the rest of the world. Their plan was to absorb the pain while inflicting pain on Trump to make him break, but now all the pain is on their side. Worth the watch.
... Trump is doing something Washington has rarely attempted with this breadth: going after not only the IRGC itself, but the entire system that kept it funded, supplied and able to project power across the region. That is precisely why his pressure should continue -- whatever the domestic political consequences.
Boeing has been selected to build the Navy's sixth-generation carrier-based strike fighter, dubbed F/A-XX, icing out what was considered to be its biggest competitor in late-stage negotiations, Northrop Grumman. Inked at $20 billion for the full-scale development phase, the contract, according to a Pentagon release, "procures multiple test aircraft for ground, airworthiness, systems, and weapons integration testing." ... Equipped with an extended range to provide power projection from U.S. carriers, Boeing has promised that the F/A-XX will, crucially, be interoperable with both manned and unmanned platforms such as Collaborative Combat Aircraft. ... Boeing's contract award marks another milestone victory for the company, which has now all but guaranteed its monopoly on sixth-generation fighters across the services.Boeing also won the contract to build the next-gen Air Force fighter, the F-47.
In 2025, Boeing beat out Lockheed Martin for the contract to build the U.S. Air Force's sixth-generation fighter under the Next Generation Air Dominance program, or NGAD. That aircraft, since dubbed the F-47, has entered its engineering and manufacturing development phase, one service official announced in July, with first flights expected as early as 2028. The Air Force at the time announced plans to purchase at least 185 of the next-gen fighters, a number designed to replace the F-22 Raptor fleet.A mocked-up image:
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but the price of gas won't rebound for at least 6 months...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:03 PM (l3cgK)
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oooh! I was foist!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:03 PM (l3cgK)
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It should be noted that traffic out of the region by workarounds has been at least at 90% pre-war levels since at least May.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:03 PM (42WUB)
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Now, I hope China isn't getting any, but I know better...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:04 PM (l3cgK)
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I nooded
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (l3cgK)
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The Iranian rial is now about 2.5 million rials to the dollar.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (42WUB)
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4 Now, I hope China isn't getting any, but I know better...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:04 PM (l3cgK)
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China is paying above market rates for oil that they had been getting for about $30 a barrel.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:04 PM (l3cgK)
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China is paying above market rates for oil that they had been getting for about $30 a barrel.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (42WUB)
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Oh, and Trump has no response to this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (42WUB)
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NYT has the sadz.
Posted by: Dirac_Delta at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (fuSAh)
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The big news for Democrats is that Pete Buttgigger is finally no longer at 0% with black voters.
He's at 1%.
He's at 1%.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2026 12:06 PM (sabhw)
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7 4 Now, I hope China isn't getting any, but I know better...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:04 PM (l3cgK)
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China is paying above market rates for oil that they had been getting for about $30 a barrel.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (42WUB)
Iranian oil...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:04 PM (l3cgK)
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China is paying above market rates for oil that they had been getting for about $30 a barrel.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (42WUB)
Iranian oil...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:06 PM (l3cgK)
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8 Gas is still too expensive.
If you don't get the prices down, expect for Republicans to pay the price at the polls.
Joe the plumber, Cathy the cashier and your average American don't give two fucks about whether or not Iran is struggling.
Joe and Cathy give a shit about whether they are struggling.
Posted by: Reality at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (DQiGk)
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Gas prices don't change voting behaviors and don't affect election outcomes:
https://x.com/TonerousHyus/status/
2097832343964668203
If you don't get the prices down, expect for Republicans to pay the price at the polls.
Joe the plumber, Cathy the cashier and your average American don't give two fucks about whether or not Iran is struggling.
Joe and Cathy give a shit about whether they are struggling.
Posted by: Reality at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (DQiGk)
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Gas prices don't change voting behaviors and don't affect election outcomes:
https://x.com/TonerousHyus/status/
2097832343964668203
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:06 PM (42WUB)
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10 NYT has the sadz.
Posted by: Dirac_Delta at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (fuSAh)
MAID is the answer!
Posted by: Dirac_Delta at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (fuSAh)
MAID is the answer!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:06 PM (l3cgK)
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This is just a distraction from the Epstein Files!!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 02, 2026 12:07 PM (3cUTc)
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but the global supply of oil is still below demand.
NYT, lol. Energy is always in demand even in the best of circumstances.
NYT, lol. Energy is always in demand even in the best of circumstances.
Posted by: Halfhand at October 02, 2026 12:07 PM (PMyU3)
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I bet "Reality" wouldn't mind a blockade if we were blockading the Real Villain, Israel.
That's what this is about, right?
You're all the same. The real topic is always communism, and if it's not communism, then the real topic is always Israel.
That's what this is about, right?
You're all the same. The real topic is always communism, and if it's not communism, then the real topic is always Israel.
Posted by: ace at October 02, 2026 12:08 PM (1wjle)
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Bessent is a fucking savage
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:08 PM (iFTx/)
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18 Bessent is a fucking savage
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:08 PM (iFTx/)
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He's a fucking killer.
I want him to be Treasury Secretary for 50 years.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:08 PM (iFTx/)
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He's a fucking killer.
I want him to be Treasury Secretary for 50 years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:09 PM (42WUB)
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Old Democrats: "Low gas prices are bad. We need Euro-level prices to get drivers into EV's. Cutting gasoline consumption is good for the climate. Allowing further exploration and production of fossil fuels in the US is wrong. Higher gas prices are the right thing to do."
New Democrats: "High gas prices are causing Americans to choose between gas and food for their children. And the high gas prices are all Trump's fault for starting an unjustified war with Iran. Vote for us and we'll lower gas prices."
New Democrats: "High gas prices are causing Americans to choose between gas and food for their children. And the high gas prices are all Trump's fault for starting an unjustified war with Iran. Vote for us and we'll lower gas prices."
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at October 02, 2026 12:09 PM (MNCvZ)
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F47..Get it ?? 47...
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:09 PM (AKptf)
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but the price of gas won't rebound for at least 6 months...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:03 PM (l3cgK)
The economy is growing and the refineries are maxed out. The price of gas won't rebound until we get new ones online.
The price for the domestic politics of the last couple decades has arrived.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:03 PM (l3cgK)
The economy is growing and the refineries are maxed out. The price of gas won't rebound until we get new ones online.
The price for the domestic politics of the last couple decades has arrived.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (mJVit)
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20 Old Democrats: "Low gas prices are bad. We need Euro-level prices to get drivers into EV's. Cutting gasoline consumption is good for the climate. Allowing further exploration and production of fossil fuels in the US is wrong. Higher gas prices are the right thing to do."
New Democrats: "High gas prices are causing Americans to choose between gas and food for their children. And the high gas prices are all Trump's fault for starting an unjustified war with Iran. Vote for us and we'll lower gas prices."
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at October 02, 2026 12:09 PM (MNCvZ)
Yo, New Dems: cook and eat beans; it takes care of the food AND gas problem.
New Democrats: "High gas prices are causing Americans to choose between gas and food for their children. And the high gas prices are all Trump's fault for starting an unjustified war with Iran. Vote for us and we'll lower gas prices."
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at October 02, 2026 12:09 PM (MNCvZ)
Yo, New Dems: cook and eat beans; it takes care of the food AND gas problem.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (l3cgK)
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The Iranian rial is now about 2.5 million rials to the dollar.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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What are they using for barter? Doesn't seem like whiskey or smokes would be big there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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What are they using for barter? Doesn't seem like whiskey or smokes would be big there.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (JzUSu)
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Joe and Cathy give a shit about whether they are struggling.
Sure, but when as electing Democrats ever made things better for them?
Sure, but when as electing Democrats ever made things better for them?
Posted by: Oddbob at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (vTZFs)
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22 The economy is growing and the refineries are maxed out. The price of gas won't rebound until we get new ones online.
The price for the domestic politics of the last couple decades has arrived.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (ExV1e)
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Demand goes down in autumn. Demand isn't constant through the year.
The price for the domestic politics of the last couple decades has arrived.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (ExV1e)
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Demand goes down in autumn. Demand isn't constant through the year.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (42WUB)
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22 but the price of gas won't rebound for at least 6 months...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:03 PM (l3cgK)
The economy is growing and the refineries are maxed out. The price of gas won't rebound until we get new ones online.
The price for the domestic politics of the last couple decades has arrived.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (ExV1e)
Especially in the Peoples' Republik of Kalifornia
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:03 PM (l3cgK)
The economy is growing and the refineries are maxed out. The price of gas won't rebound until we get new ones online.
The price for the domestic politics of the last couple decades has arrived.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (ExV1e)
Especially in the Peoples' Republik of Kalifornia
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:11 PM (l3cgK)
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23 Why beating Iran is bad for America
National Review
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (mJVit)
Has NR been beating off?
National Review
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (mJVit)
Has NR been beating off?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:11 PM (l3cgK)
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If you don't get the prices down, expect for Republicans to pay the price at the polls.
Joe the plumber, Cathy the cashier and your average American don't give two fucks about whether or not Iran is struggling.
Joe and Cathy give a shit about whether they are struggling.
Posted by: Reality at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (DQiGk)
Then Joe and Cathy are going to vote Democrat which will not only not solve their problems, it will introduce new problems.
Joe the plumber, Cathy the cashier and your average American don't give two fucks about whether or not Iran is struggling.
Joe and Cathy give a shit about whether they are struggling.
Posted by: Reality at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (DQiGk)
Then Joe and Cathy are going to vote Democrat which will not only not solve their problems, it will introduce new problems.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:11 PM (ExV1e)
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31 Then Joe and Cathy are going to vote Democrat which will not only not solve their problems, it will introduce new problems.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:11 PM (ExV1e)
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Joe got a new manufacturing job and doesn't feel the pain at the pump that much anymore.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:11 PM (ExV1e)
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Joe got a new manufacturing job and doesn't feel the pain at the pump that much anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:12 PM (42WUB)
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Posted by: Reality at October 02, 2026 12:11 PM (DQiGk)
That's funny. It seems it's the Leftists that can't get Jews and Israel out of their minds.
That's funny. It seems it's the Leftists that can't get Jews and Israel out of their minds.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:12 PM (l3cgK)
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"When America rejected that -- actually, the "negotiators" were told to leave "
Here's my offer: Nothing.
These are gangsters barely controlling the fanatics. They've just never seen a problem they couldn't kill their way out of. They don't know how to lose this halfway and stay in power. It's full collapse from the inside if we don't lose our nerve.
Here's my offer: Nothing.
These are gangsters barely controlling the fanatics. They've just never seen a problem they couldn't kill their way out of. They don't know how to lose this halfway and stay in power. It's full collapse from the inside if we don't lose our nerve.
Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at October 02, 2026 12:13 PM (r7+Q7)
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> Visual proof of Bessent's claim:About 20 empty Iranian tankers are now stranded off the coast of Sri Lanka. They cannot go back to Iran because of the blockade.
And the US is pressuring Sri Lanka not to allow them to refuel and resupply.
The ships are empty, having dumped their oil off in China and India, and now languishing with no cargo.
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Submarine torpedo practice range. Do it. Now.
And the US is pressuring Sri Lanka not to allow them to refuel and resupply.
The ships are empty, having dumped their oil off in China and India, and now languishing with no cargo.
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Submarine torpedo practice range. Do it. Now.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 02, 2026 12:13 PM (RORbl)
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My Boeing employed son tells me that with the SPEEA contract ratification yesterday, the mood on the factory floor is downright jubilant. Folks are jazzed about the future of Boeing. And they are in an "all hands on deck" attitude.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 02, 2026 12:13 PM (W2Pud)
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I am going to suggest Ace (and his band of merry thieves) are pretty in tune with how 98% of us feel.
Posted by: Piper at October 02, 2026 12:13 PM (ZdaMQ)
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The stranded tankers are "Q" ships, waiting for the right moment to drop the disguise and annihilate the satanic american fleet.
The moral victory continues. Soon Trump will have to come clean and admit the U.S.S. Lincoln was sunk a month ago.
-IRGC, through MSNOW sources
The stranded tankers are "Q" ships, waiting for the right moment to drop the disguise and annihilate the satanic american fleet.
The moral victory continues. Soon Trump will have to come clean and admit the U.S.S. Lincoln was sunk a month ago.
-IRGC, through MSNOW sources
Posted by: Auspex at October 02, 2026 12:14 PM (Y8DZL)
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Perhaps you can go watch Aronofsky's movie Pi and it will give you some ideas on how to get Israel out of your head.
The path to enlightenment is Hollywood, y'all. lol
The path to enlightenment is Hollywood, y'all. lol
Posted by: Halfhand at October 02, 2026 12:14 PM (PMyU3)
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Gas is still too expensive."
OMG! I'm paying an additional...
Starbucks daily coffee. Food and other prices are good.
So there
OMG! I'm paying an additional...
Starbucks daily coffee. Food and other prices are good.
So there
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:14 PM (nLfmy)
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Demand goes down in autumn. Demand isn't constant through the year.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (42WUB)
Probably less so for diesel and I bet it goes down less than expected. As the economy grows the demand for fuel grows, regardless of season, and I don't think we've got room to produce more. Which means importing distillate.
But the solution requires more than 2 weeks so 80% of the population will abandon it as soon as a politician says that the other guys are bad.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (42WUB)
Probably less so for diesel and I bet it goes down less than expected. As the economy grows the demand for fuel grows, regardless of season, and I don't think we've got room to produce more. Which means importing distillate.
But the solution requires more than 2 weeks so 80% of the population will abandon it as soon as a politician says that the other guys are bad.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:15 PM (ExV1e)
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39 Perhaps you can go watch Aronofsky's movie Pi and it will give you some ideas on how to get Israel out of your head.
The path to enlightenment is Hollywood, y'all. lol
Posted by: Halfhand at October 02, 2026 12:14 PM (PMyU3)
And it Hollyweird it's through coke, hookers and actresses (BIRM).
The path to enlightenment is Hollywood, y'all. lol
Posted by: Halfhand at October 02, 2026 12:14 PM (PMyU3)
And it Hollyweird it's through coke, hookers and actresses (BIRM).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:15 PM (l3cgK)
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Afternoon Ace.
Abby Phillip is dumb as a box of rocks. That is all
Abby Phillip is dumb as a box of rocks. That is all
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 02, 2026 12:16 PM (jivel)
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Remember the freak out about the MOU?
I don't expect anyone to remember I kept arguing that it didn't actually do much of anything. It gave Iran nothing if they didn't behave like a normal country (they attacked third-nation ships within 48 hours of the signing, so it was moot at that point anyway).
It was all about the blockade. It was all about strangling Iran's ability to finance itself while giving signals to the oil market to calm the fuck down.
Trump can maintain the blockade for 2.5 more years without any worry about change in direction or policy. In that time, the rial will end up being worth about a billion to one dollar, the news of uprisings will become undeniable, and the lower ranks of the regime that can't feed themselves will have long since turned against the regime itself.
Iran will turn itself into Uganda, waiting for the US Parliament to remove Trump as Prime Minister.
I don't expect anyone to remember I kept arguing that it didn't actually do much of anything. It gave Iran nothing if they didn't behave like a normal country (they attacked third-nation ships within 48 hours of the signing, so it was moot at that point anyway).
It was all about the blockade. It was all about strangling Iran's ability to finance itself while giving signals to the oil market to calm the fuck down.
Trump can maintain the blockade for 2.5 more years without any worry about change in direction or policy. In that time, the rial will end up being worth about a billion to one dollar, the news of uprisings will become undeniable, and the lower ranks of the regime that can't feed themselves will have long since turned against the regime itself.
Iran will turn itself into Uganda, waiting for the US Parliament to remove Trump as Prime Minister.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:16 PM (42WUB)
Posted by: one hour sober at October 02, 2026 12:16 PM (J4Dwc)
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Oil is down and the 10 year yield has decreased. Soft jobs report this morning cools inflation fears and with it the likelihood of a rate hike. The markets like this bigly.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 02, 2026 12:16 PM (2UnvF)
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40 Gas is still too expensive."
OMG! I'm paying an additional...
Starbucks daily coffee. Food and other prices are good.
So there
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:14 PM (nLfmy)
I paid just over $5 a gallon the penultimate time I tanked up. The last time it was $6.26/gal. To fill my tank was a pretty expensive Starbucks coffee...
OMG! I'm paying an additional...
Starbucks daily coffee. Food and other prices are good.
So there
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:14 PM (nLfmy)
I paid just over $5 a gallon the penultimate time I tanked up. The last time it was $6.26/gal. To fill my tank was a pretty expensive Starbucks coffee...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:17 PM (l3cgK)
46
The price for the domestic politics of the last couple decades has arrived"
This cannot be over emphasized. At all.
This cannot be over emphasized. At all.
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:17 PM (nLfmy)
47
Abby Phillip is dumb as a box of rocks. That is all
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 02, 2026 12:16 PM (jivel)
You'll be hearing from our attorneys. -- Coalition for Bags of Rocks
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 02, 2026 12:16 PM (jivel)
You'll be hearing from our attorneys. -- Coalition for Bags of Rocks
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:17 PM (ExV1e)
48
Gas is still too expensive.
If you don't get the prices down, expect for Republicans to pay the price at the polls.
Joe the plumber, Cathy the cashier and your average American don't give two fucks about whether or not Iran is struggling.
Joe and Cathy give a shit about whether they are struggling.
Posted by: Reality at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (DQiGk)
=======
Gas prices don't change voting behaviors and don't affect election outcomes:
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:06 PM (42WUB)
_______
Everything is always "too expensive."
Ask any one of these doomsayers what isn't too expensive, and they'll just stare at you. Or ask them what should the price of things like gas, beef, or whatever else they are complaining about be. More stares.
I'd like gas to go back to the levels under Trump1. I'd also like interest rates to go back to those levels too. I also want a pet dragon that I can ride through the air like those gay aliens in Avatar.
If you don't get the prices down, expect for Republicans to pay the price at the polls.
Joe the plumber, Cathy the cashier and your average American don't give two fucks about whether or not Iran is struggling.
Joe and Cathy give a shit about whether they are struggling.
Posted by: Reality at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (DQiGk)
=======
Gas prices don't change voting behaviors and don't affect election outcomes:
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:06 PM (42WUB)
_______
Everything is always "too expensive."
Ask any one of these doomsayers what isn't too expensive, and they'll just stare at you. Or ask them what should the price of things like gas, beef, or whatever else they are complaining about be. More stares.
I'd like gas to go back to the levels under Trump1. I'd also like interest rates to go back to those levels too. I also want a pet dragon that I can ride through the air like those gay aliens in Avatar.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:17 PM (iFTx/)
49
41 Probably less so for diesel and I bet it goes down less than expected. As the economy grows the demand for fuel grows, regardless of season, and I don't think we've got room to produce more. Which means importing distillate.
But the solution requires more than 2 weeks so 80% of the population will abandon it as soon as a politician says that the other guys are bad.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:15 PM (ExV1e)
=======
High prices also destroy demand in poorer countries like in Africa and China on a global scale.
These spikes never last forever. Gas was high in 2022.
But the solution requires more than 2 weeks so 80% of the population will abandon it as soon as a politician says that the other guys are bad.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:15 PM (ExV1e)
=======
High prices also destroy demand in poorer countries like in Africa and China on a global scale.
These spikes never last forever. Gas was high in 2022.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:17 PM (42WUB)
50
but the price of gas won't rebound for at least 6 months...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:03 PM (l3cgK)
Gas in my town here in Alberta is down almost 25 cents per liter from two weeks ago.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:03 PM (l3cgK)
Gas in my town here in Alberta is down almost 25 cents per liter from two weeks ago.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 12:17 PM (n2qDf)
51
43 Afternoon Ace.
Abby Phillip is dumb as a box of rocks. That is all
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 02, 2026 12:16 PM (jivel)
Oh, she's normal; abby-normal.
Abby Phillip is dumb as a box of rocks. That is all
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 02, 2026 12:16 PM (jivel)
Oh, she's normal; abby-normal.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:18 PM (l3cgK)
52
Dick is a conservative who's pissed about gas prices, the war and that the GOP Congress didn't pass the SAVE America Act.
So Dick is gonna stay home in November to punish the Republicans for not doing all the things he wanted them to do.
Thereby turning government over to the Democrats who will;
- throw back open the border
- stop domestic oil and gas production
- eliminate the Electoral College and filibuster
- block election integrity efforts
- pass wealth taxes
- pack the SCOTUS
- re-fund the DOGE cuts, USAID and Dep't of Education
- appease the Mullah's
- pass mail-in voting laws
- adopt socialist policies that give them more control over the economy.
DON'T BE A DICK!
So Dick is gonna stay home in November to punish the Republicans for not doing all the things he wanted them to do.
Thereby turning government over to the Democrats who will;
- throw back open the border
- stop domestic oil and gas production
- eliminate the Electoral College and filibuster
- block election integrity efforts
- pass wealth taxes
- pack the SCOTUS
- re-fund the DOGE cuts, USAID and Dep't of Education
- appease the Mullah's
- pass mail-in voting laws
- adopt socialist policies that give them more control over the economy.
DON'T BE A DICK!
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at October 02, 2026 12:18 PM (MNCvZ)
53
The mullahs have got to be trying to figure out how Bessent, a gay guy, is stomping on their economy.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 02, 2026 12:18 PM (jivel)
54
Probably less so for diesel and I bet it goes down less than expected"
Let's knock out more diesel production, California
Let's knock out more diesel production, California
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:18 PM (nLfmy)
55
52 but the price of gas won't rebound for at least 6 months...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:03 PM (l3cgK)
Gas in my town here in Alberta is down almost 25 cents per liter from two weeks ago.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 12:17 PM (n2qDf)
Prices jump up like an impulse, drop like exponential decay.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:03 PM (l3cgK)
Gas in my town here in Alberta is down almost 25 cents per liter from two weeks ago.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 12:17 PM (n2qDf)
Prices jump up like an impulse, drop like exponential decay.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:19 PM (l3cgK)
56
50 Everything is always "too expensive."
Ask any one of these doomsayers what isn't too expensive, and they'll just stare at you. Or ask them what should the price of things like gas, beef, or whatever else they are complaining about be. More stares.
I'd like gas to go back to the levels under Trump1. I'd also like interest rates to go back to those levels too. I also want a pet dragon that I can ride through the air like those gay aliens in Avatar.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:17 PM (iFTx/)
========
The affordability thing is all about Democrats who had denied it was a problem suddenly making it a problem now that Biden is out of office.
They started literally in January of 2024.
They've latched onto it as an issue, so it dominates polling on the nation (30% or so say it's the top issue), and the right-leaning social media space is shockingly populated by leftists who pretend to be conservative.
Ask any one of these doomsayers what isn't too expensive, and they'll just stare at you. Or ask them what should the price of things like gas, beef, or whatever else they are complaining about be. More stares.
I'd like gas to go back to the levels under Trump1. I'd also like interest rates to go back to those levels too. I also want a pet dragon that I can ride through the air like those gay aliens in Avatar.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:17 PM (iFTx/)
========
The affordability thing is all about Democrats who had denied it was a problem suddenly making it a problem now that Biden is out of office.
They started literally in January of 2024.
They've latched onto it as an issue, so it dominates polling on the nation (30% or so say it's the top issue), and the right-leaning social media space is shockingly populated by leftists who pretend to be conservative.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:19 PM (42WUB)
57
Remember the freak out about the MOU?
==
Remember when Vance and his online buddies trashed people who said the MOU was a pile of horseshit that only gave Iran time to fuck around, while they tried to sell it as the best way forward, and then Iran tried to kill Trump in Turkey, and then Trump decided he had enough of the clown show and sent Bessent to do the job?
==
Remember when Vance and his online buddies trashed people who said the MOU was a pile of horseshit that only gave Iran time to fuck around, while they tried to sell it as the best way forward, and then Iran tried to kill Trump in Turkey, and then Trump decided he had enough of the clown show and sent Bessent to do the job?
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:20 PM (AKptf)
58
56 Probably less so for diesel and I bet it goes down less than expected"
Let's knock out more diesel production, California
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:18 PM (nLfmy)
Great Idea! We're on it!
Let's knock out more diesel production, California
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:18 PM (nLfmy)
Great Idea! We're on it!
Posted by: Newsome & the Dem SuperMajority at October 02, 2026 12:20 PM (l3cgK)
59
Maybe Cathy the cashier needs to look for another income stream.
Posted by: No, not that. at October 02, 2026 12:20 PM (2Ez/1)
60
Joe the plumber, Cathy the cashier and your average American don't give two fucks about whether or not Iran is struggling.
Joe and Cathy give a shit about whether they are struggling.
Posted by: Reality at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (DQiGk)
So they are going to vote for the party that will take away their cars altogether, and force them onto filthy public transit with stabby wetbacks? Yeah, riiight.
Joe and Cathy give a shit about whether they are struggling.
Posted by: Reality at October 02, 2026 12:05 PM (DQiGk)
So they are going to vote for the party that will take away their cars altogether, and force them onto filthy public transit with stabby wetbacks? Yeah, riiight.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 12:20 PM (n2qDf)
61
Bessent 2028. There. I said it.
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:20 PM (AKptf)
62
Related:
https://x.com/TonerousHyus/status/
2106053573037490586
"@TonerousHyus
·
12m
Has gotten substantially worse in the last 5 days. Shifting from a negative slope of -0.083 to -0.099 for black turnout in Cleveland"
Democrats have a serious turnout problem.
Which is weird if gas prices are a motivator to vote.
https://x.com/TonerousHyus/status/
2106053573037490586
"@TonerousHyus
·
12m
Has gotten substantially worse in the last 5 days. Shifting from a negative slope of -0.083 to -0.099 for black turnout in Cleveland"
Democrats have a serious turnout problem.
Which is weird if gas prices are a motivator to vote.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:20 PM (42WUB)
63
It's about 12m per day through the strait and probably 5m through the pipeline. Now, if the ukranian thug would stop shooting western missles into Russian refineries, prices would stabilize.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 02, 2026 12:21 PM (0U5gm)
64
Affordability is a feeling, not a fact.
Posted by: Change my mind at October 02, 2026 12:21 PM (2Ez/1)
Posted by: Dr. T at October 02, 2026 12:22 PM (O9tRg)
66
It's always "Hor Muz, Hor Muz, HorMuz".
Can we please stop slut-shaming Muz? She is a strong indigenous woman of color who does not accept the rules of the patriarchy.
How about "Sex-Positive Muz" for a change?
Oh, wait: this is Iran.
Never mind.
Can we please stop slut-shaming Muz? She is a strong indigenous woman of color who does not accept the rules of the patriarchy.
How about "Sex-Positive Muz" for a change?
Oh, wait: this is Iran.
Never mind.
Posted by: Clueless Feminutbar at October 02, 2026 12:22 PM (qlLNh)
67
Per Brave AI on what Iranians are using for barter due to the inflation:
"At the individual level, citizens are exchanging household items for food on online platforms; common trades include sneakers for meat, books for rice, and clothes or vacuum cleaners for chicken, oil, and beans."
"At the individual level, citizens are exchanging household items for food on online platforms; common trades include sneakers for meat, books for rice, and clothes or vacuum cleaners for chicken, oil, and beans."
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 02, 2026 12:22 PM (JzUSu)
68
When a company wins a major aircraft contract, doesn't the loser usually get to tag along as a subcontractor?
Posted by: toby928(c) at October 02, 2026 12:23 PM (4NO2D)
69
And it’s time for Trump to punch the commodities trader in the dick.
They keep artificially keeping the bbl price high by placing a “risk premium” made up out of thin air to keep the price high. You might as well call it the Trump Premium.
It’s total and complete bullshit.
They keep artificially keeping the bbl price high by placing a “risk premium” made up out of thin air to keep the price high. You might as well call it the Trump Premium.
It’s total and complete bullshit.
Posted by: Vengeance at October 02, 2026 12:23 PM (Cuw0G)
70
59 Remember the freak out about the MOU?
==
Remember when Vance and his online buddies trashed people who said the MOU was a pile of horseshit that only gave Iran time to fuck around, while they tried to sell it as the best way forward, and then Iran tried to kill Trump in Turkey, and then Trump decided he had enough of the clown show and sent Bessent to do the job?
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:20 PM (AKptf)
========
Vance was only supportive of it. He publicly supported it more than once.
https://tinyurl.com/u9e7u2mm
The online right was infected with lies about how Iran would instantly get $300 billion.
==
Remember when Vance and his online buddies trashed people who said the MOU was a pile of horseshit that only gave Iran time to fuck around, while they tried to sell it as the best way forward, and then Iran tried to kill Trump in Turkey, and then Trump decided he had enough of the clown show and sent Bessent to do the job?
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:20 PM (AKptf)
========
Vance was only supportive of it. He publicly supported it more than once.
https://tinyurl.com/u9e7u2mm
The online right was infected with lies about how Iran would instantly get $300 billion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:23 PM (42WUB)
71
Democrats have a serious turnout problem.
Which is weird if gas prices are a motivator to vote.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:20 PM (42WUB)
I think it's a matter of what the biggest issues are. If you realize you're fighting an existential war or can't find a job, gas prices are an insignificant factor. If you have nothing left to complain about except you believe Dems and Reps are the same and the price of gas is a PITA, then maybe it'll have some impact. The graph may be too simplistic without all other factors considered, such as what Americans feel are the biggest issues being faced.
Which is weird if gas prices are a motivator to vote.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:20 PM (42WUB)
I think it's a matter of what the biggest issues are. If you realize you're fighting an existential war or can't find a job, gas prices are an insignificant factor. If you have nothing left to complain about except you believe Dems and Reps are the same and the price of gas is a PITA, then maybe it'll have some impact. The graph may be too simplistic without all other factors considered, such as what Americans feel are the biggest issues being faced.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:23 PM (l3cgK)
72
but the price of gas won't rebound for at least 6 months...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
People will be surprised as to how fast prices can come down, but it isn't related to crude prices as much as refinery capacity.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
People will be surprised as to how fast prices can come down, but it isn't related to crude prices as much as refinery capacity.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 02, 2026 12:23 PM (0U5gm)
73
I'm wondering if the CAFE standard thing means that we can start having mini-trucks again.
I always liked those things. Shit in a crash, but very if you wanted the ability to carry materials for homeowner-sized jobs without incurring the sticker and gas expense for a full-size pickup.
I always liked those things. Shit in a crash, but very if you wanted the ability to carry materials for homeowner-sized jobs without incurring the sticker and gas expense for a full-size pickup.
Posted by: Clueless Feminutbar at October 02, 2026 12:24 PM (qlLNh)
74
wholesale oil price has been falling for three weeks now, but gas (pump) prices, while not going up, don't seem to be falling either. Yet.
Mrs Tell keeps telling me that wholesale oil prices have nothing to do with retail pump prices. And I always respond that they better be related or else there is an illegal price fixing conspiracy afooot.
Mrs Tell keeps telling me that wholesale oil prices have nothing to do with retail pump prices. And I always respond that they better be related or else there is an illegal price fixing conspiracy afooot.
Posted by: Martin Tell at October 02, 2026 12:25 PM (sFNX2)
75
68 It's always "Hor Muz, Hor Muz, HorMuz".
Can we please stop slut-shaming Muz? She is a strong indigenous woman of color who does not accept the rules of the patriarchy.
How about "Sex-Positive Muz" for a change?
Oh, wait: this is Iran.
Never mind.
Posted by: Clueless Feminutbar at October 02, 2026 12:22 PM (qlLNh)
Moooo!
Can we please stop slut-shaming Muz? She is a strong indigenous woman of color who does not accept the rules of the patriarchy.
How about "Sex-Positive Muz" for a change?
Oh, wait: this is Iran.
Never mind.
Posted by: Clueless Feminutbar at October 02, 2026 12:22 PM (qlLNh)
Moooo!
Posted by: Cows of Iran at October 02, 2026 12:25 PM (l3cgK)
76
73 I think it's a matter of what the biggest issues are. If you realize you're fighting an existential war or can't find a job, gas prices are an insignificant factor. If you have nothing left to complain about except you believe Dems and Reps are the same and the price of gas is a PITA, then maybe it'll have some impact. The graph may be too simplistic without all other factors considered, such as what Americans feel are the biggest issues being faced.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:23 PM (l3cgK)
========
It's just a graph of relative turnout in OH's main metro areas, blue enclaves, arranged by relative racial composition.
If gas is a major factor, as people say, blue enclaves should be seeing increased turnout. Overall, turnout is down, and it's really down with black voters who tend to be poorer.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:23 PM (l3cgK)
========
It's just a graph of relative turnout in OH's main metro areas, blue enclaves, arranged by relative racial composition.
If gas is a major factor, as people say, blue enclaves should be seeing increased turnout. Overall, turnout is down, and it's really down with black voters who tend to be poorer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:25 PM (42WUB)
77
The amount of petrochemicals it takes to create alternat3energy is mind blowing.
Musk doesn't say a word about all the materials he uses in his cars that are all created using petrochemicals.
Musk doesn't say a word about all the materials he uses in his cars that are all created using petrochemicals.
Posted by: torabora at October 02, 2026 12:25 PM (1/viQ)
78
This is obviously not the original "Red Green Alliance," which involved Red Green pairing up with Winston Rothschild to see how much duct tape could cover one of Winston's septic sucking hoses.
Posted by: pookysgirl grew up watching the shenanigans at October 02, 2026 12:25 PM (Wt5PA)
79
54 Dick is a conservative who's pissed about gas prices, the war and that the GOP Congress didn't pass the SAVE America Act.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy
Dick is a Moby or a Bulwark Homo Cruise attendee.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy
Dick is a Moby or a Bulwark Homo Cruise attendee.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 12:26 PM (E4rtv)
80
The U.S. pressure campaign against Iran has left dozens of Iranian or Iran-linked tankers stranded in Asian waters, unable to return home or access ports and suppliers because of sanctions risks.
Around 20 empty tankers are drifting near Sri Lanka alone, with crews reportedly running short of food, fuel and fresh water.
===
Maybe catch a flight to Tel Aviv?
Around 20 empty tankers are drifting near Sri Lanka alone, with crews reportedly running short of food, fuel and fresh water.
===
Maybe catch a flight to Tel Aviv?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 02, 2026 12:27 PM (RIvkX)
81
Here's a good place where the Democrat rhetoric actually hurts the people they try to appeal to.
They let prices rise 25% over the Biden administration and played the gaslight cycle (starting with "It's not happening,..."), and then 2 years later raise the flag of "Affordability!" because oil is making everything more expensive. Everything has to be transported--especially in the Age of Amazon and the "distributed economy").
However, it's always mercenary to engage the military for "oil". Even though they could have watched and seen how "Oil" affects "AFFORDABILITY!!™"
They let prices rise 25% over the Biden administration and played the gaslight cycle (starting with "It's not happening,..."), and then 2 years later raise the flag of "Affordability!" because oil is making everything more expensive. Everything has to be transported--especially in the Age of Amazon and the "distributed economy").
However, it's always mercenary to engage the military for "oil". Even though they could have watched and seen how "Oil" affects "AFFORDABILITY!!™"
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:27 PM (Fi81e)
82
OT - CBS fired Tony Romo.
Posted by: mr tmz at October 02, 2026 12:27 PM (rJ48h)
83
79 The amount of petrochemicals it takes to create alternat3energy is mind blowing.
Musk doesn't say a word about all the materials he uses in his cars that are all created using petrochemicals.
Posted by: torabora at October 02, 2026 12:25 PM (1/viQ)
All those mfgs who say they care about the environment really care about money more, and are only saying that to convince people to buy their products.
Musk doesn't say a word about all the materials he uses in his cars that are all created using petrochemicals.
Posted by: torabora at October 02, 2026 12:25 PM (1/viQ)
All those mfgs who say they care about the environment really care about money more, and are only saying that to convince people to buy their products.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:27 PM (l3cgK)
84
If anything the price of gas has nudged up in my AO over the last month by about 30 cents per gallon. I’ve given up trying to figure out the economics of how gas prices get set. No rhyme or reason that I can discern
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:28 PM (M+uMR)
85
@64 TJM, not surprised that Dem turnout is low. Blacks won't turn out for Talarico or al-Sayed. Jews are going to be avoiding any candidate that may be anti-Semitic , which throws the DSA types into a bad spot. The old time Dems have no way to deal with that
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 02, 2026 12:28 PM (jivel)
86
The amount of petrochemicals it takes to create alternat3energy is mind blowing.
Musk doesn't say a word about all the materials he uses in his cars that are all created using petrochemicals.
Posted by: torabora at October 02, 2026 12:25 PM (1/viQ)
There's a metric fuckton of plastic in every car now, not just electrics.
Musk doesn't say a word about all the materials he uses in his cars that are all created using petrochemicals.
Posted by: torabora at October 02, 2026 12:25 PM (1/viQ)
There's a metric fuckton of plastic in every car now, not just electrics.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 12:28 PM (n2qDf)
87
83 Here's a good place where the Democrat rhetoric actually hurts the people they try to appeal to.
They let prices rise 25% over the Biden administration and played the gaslight cycle (starting with "It's not happening,..."), and then 2 years later raise the flag of "Affordability!" because oil is making everything more expensive. Everything has to be transported--especially in the Age of Amazon and the "distributed economy").
However, it's always mercenary to engage the military for "oil". Even though they could have watched and seen how "Oil" affects "AFFORDABILITY!!™"
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:27 PM (Fi81e)
======
I remember someone arguing in 2022 that gas prices wouldn't affect the election that much because by the time the election came around gas prices would have been elevated for so long that people will have gotten used to it.
I poo-pooed the idea at the time, but I think he was actually right now.
This really is just Democrats deciding to latch onto a message more than anything else. They ignored affordability for 4 years under Biden and just latched onto it the second it was politically safe to do so.
They let prices rise 25% over the Biden administration and played the gaslight cycle (starting with "It's not happening,..."), and then 2 years later raise the flag of "Affordability!" because oil is making everything more expensive. Everything has to be transported--especially in the Age of Amazon and the "distributed economy").
However, it's always mercenary to engage the military for "oil". Even though they could have watched and seen how "Oil" affects "AFFORDABILITY!!™"
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:27 PM (Fi81e)
======
I remember someone arguing in 2022 that gas prices wouldn't affect the election that much because by the time the election came around gas prices would have been elevated for so long that people will have gotten used to it.
I poo-pooed the idea at the time, but I think he was actually right now.
This really is just Democrats deciding to latch onto a message more than anything else. They ignored affordability for 4 years under Biden and just latched onto it the second it was politically safe to do so.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (42WUB)
88
The online right was infected with lies about how Iran would instantly get $300 billion.
===
The point people were making is that inking that kind of nonsense, promising 300B in any kind of form, was stupid. Cutting then off from the world, if bombing into oblivion was off the table, was the way to go. Not MOUIng carrots.
===
The point people were making is that inking that kind of nonsense, promising 300B in any kind of form, was stupid. Cutting then off from the world, if bombing into oblivion was off the table, was the way to go. Not MOUIng carrots.
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (AKptf)
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (Fi81e)
90
84 OT - CBS fired Tony Romo.
Posted by: mr tmz at October 02, 2026 12:27 PM (rJ48h)
Are his eateries okay?
Oh, that's Tony Roma...
Posted by: mr tmz at October 02, 2026 12:27 PM (rJ48h)
Are his eateries okay?
Oh, that's Tony Roma...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (l3cgK)
91
Abby Phillip is dumb as a box of rocks. That is all
Posted by: Smell the Glove
You'll be hearing from our attorneys. -- Coalition for Bags of Rocks
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE ROCKS ARE TOO DUMB TO KNOW IF THEY'RE IN A BOX OR A BAG AND SO IS ABBY.
Posted by: Smell the Glove
You'll be hearing from our attorneys. -- Coalition for Bags of Rocks
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE ROCKS ARE TOO DUMB TO KNOW IF THEY'RE IN A BOX OR A BAG AND SO IS ABBY.
Posted by: BEN ROFLCOPTER at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (VHUov)
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86 If anything the price of gas has nudged up in my AO over the last month by about 30 cents per gallon. I’ve given up trying to figure out the economics of how gas prices get set. No rhyme or reason that I can discern
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:28 PM (M+uMR)
$ 6.29 here with $8.69 diesel... California...
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:28 PM (M+uMR)
$ 6.29 here with $8.69 diesel... California...
Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (MHhOG)
93
91 Why does the whore moo?
That's weird.
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (Fi81e)
Because muzzies like animals and little boys over women?
That's weird.
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (Fi81e)
Because muzzies like animals and little boys over women?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (l3cgK)
94
Per Brave AI on what Iranians are using for barter due to the inflation:
"At the individual level, citizens are exchanging household items for food on online platforms; common trades include sneakers for meat, books for rice, and clothes or vacuum cleaners for chicken, oil, and beans."
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 02, 2026 12:22 PM (JzUSu)
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It's going to get very, very ugly when meat, chicken, oil, and beans (and similar essentials) become unavailable at *any* price.
"At the individual level, citizens are exchanging household items for food on online platforms; common trades include sneakers for meat, books for rice, and clothes or vacuum cleaners for chicken, oil, and beans."
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 02, 2026 12:22 PM (JzUSu)
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It's going to get very, very ugly when meat, chicken, oil, and beans (and similar essentials) become unavailable at *any* price.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (FZ29D)
95
MAGA is motivated is what I saw. Now, how does that compare to 2022, I wonder.
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (AKptf)
96
87 @64 TJM, not surprised that Dem turnout is low. Blacks won't turn out for Talarico or al-Sayed. Jews are going to be avoiding any candidate that may be anti-Semitic , which throws the DSA types into a bad spot. The old time Dems have no way to deal with that
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 02, 2026 12:28 PM (jivel)
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These are OH numbers. OH hasn't had a serious black candidate...ever?
So, it's comparing Sherrod Brown to...Sherrod Brown.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 02, 2026 12:28 PM (jivel)
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These are OH numbers. OH hasn't had a serious black candidate...ever?
So, it's comparing Sherrod Brown to...Sherrod Brown.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (42WUB)
97
No no, that can't be right. I have it on good authority that Iran totally won and we're going to give them billions of dollars.
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 12:30 PM (wt1Vg)
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95 91 Why does the whore moo?
That's weird.
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (Fi81e)
Because muzzies like animals and little boys over women?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (l3cgK)
It's roleplay...$20 extra, same as in town.
That's weird.
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (Fi81e)
Because muzzies like animals and little boys over women?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (l3cgK)
It's roleplay...$20 extra, same as in town.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:30 PM (l3cgK)
99
The invisible hand: Oil is brought to the surface from multiple countries and seabeds, and transported to refineries all over. In the US there are less than 150 refineries. These refineries produce over 50 grades of fuel; multiple diesel, plus four blends of gasoline which are also modified with additives for several regions of the US to meet regional requirements.
These multiple fuels are then transported to over 5,000 American fueling stations, and must deliver fuels to meet anticipated demand projected out from three days to two weeks. And they do it.
These multiple fuels are then transported to over 5,000 American fueling stations, and must deliver fuels to meet anticipated demand projected out from three days to two weeks. And they do it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 02, 2026 12:30 PM (0U5gm)
100
Down about 40 cents lately. Carbob is a problem...
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:30 PM (nLfmy)
101
As my indigenous YouTube feed has been repeatedly colonized by Beato Talarico ads, allow me to offer the following. I have seen at least fifty ads in the last five weeks, maybe a dozen unique pitches, all just the candidate looking into the camera and asking for money.
Here's what the Dems are giving as reasons to donate: opposing Big Money or Billionaire donors is the main thrust. Trump got mentioned, but in the same breath was also Elon and Congressional Republicans. No Orange man bad, not a word of gas prices or even inflation.
Here's what the Dems are giving as reasons to donate: opposing Big Money or Billionaire donors is the main thrust. Trump got mentioned, but in the same breath was also Elon and Congressional Republicans. No Orange man bad, not a word of gas prices or even inflation.
Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at October 02, 2026 12:30 PM (r7+Q7)
102
44 million rials, same as in town.
Posted by: Whore Moo at October 02, 2026 12:30 PM (l3cgK)
103
The online right was infected with lies about how Iran would instantly get $300 billion.
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Yet again, everybody on the right has heard "believes" something I have never heard about.
If they want you're input, they'll make a caricature of the right and dismiss it.
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Yet again, everybody on the right has heard "believes" something I have never heard about.
If they want you're input, they'll make a caricature of the right and dismiss it.
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:30 PM (Fi81e)
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90 The online right was infected with lies about how Iran would instantly get $300 billion.
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The point people were making is that inking that kind of nonsense, promising 300B in any kind of form, was stupid. Cutting then off from the world, if bombing into oblivion was off the table, was the way to go. Not MOUIng carrots.
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (AKptf)
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Absolutely not true.
I remember when it was signed, people were saying, "Well, Iran just got $300 billion."
It was never, "Well, if Iran acts like a normal country, they'll get major investment with heavy strings attached," which was what the MOU outlined.
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The point people were making is that inking that kind of nonsense, promising 300B in any kind of form, was stupid. Cutting then off from the world, if bombing into oblivion was off the table, was the way to go. Not MOUIng carrots.
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (AKptf)
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Absolutely not true.
I remember when it was signed, people were saying, "Well, Iran just got $300 billion."
It was never, "Well, if Iran acts like a normal country, they'll get major investment with heavy strings attached," which was what the MOU outlined.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:31 PM (42WUB)
105
Drifting towards Sri Lanka sounds so exotic. Always up for an adventure, Lovey and I may take a tour there soon.
Posted by: Thurston Howell III. at October 02, 2026 12:31 PM (Fn+3X)
106
> Musk doesn't say a word about all the materials he uses in his cars that are all created using petrochemicals.
Posted by: torabora at October 02, 2026 12:25 PM (1/viQ)
I'm sure this made sense in your head.
What, you're suggesting that IC cars don't have vast amounts of plastic in them as well?
Not to mention that Elon Musk is pretty much single-handedly responsible for the fact that we haven't gone full commie yet.
Posted by: torabora at October 02, 2026 12:25 PM (1/viQ)
I'm sure this made sense in your head.
What, you're suggesting that IC cars don't have vast amounts of plastic in them as well?
Not to mention that Elon Musk is pretty much single-handedly responsible for the fact that we haven't gone full commie yet.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 02, 2026 12:31 PM (qlLNh)
107
I heard that everybody on the right was incensed by the tan suit, too.
But somehow, I had to hear about that from libs.
But somehow, I had to hear about that from libs.
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:31 PM (Fi81e)
108
Vance was only supportive of it. He publicly supported it more than once.
https://tinyurl.com/u9e7u2mm
The online right was infected with lies about how Iran would instantly get $300 billion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Most political panics and freakouts are in fact based on bullshit and single interest types are the most affected by op bullshit.
And the Deep State has been throwing op after op at the Trump administration based on bullshit and the choir in social media sings the same ole song.
About 40 percent of the voting population has decided everything in the media and social media in particular is bullshit leading them to tune out which is why Trump has survived in office while Nixon got taken out by an op. And if Trump gets them to the polls like his GOTV operation is attempting, then there will be no blue wave, only a tepid 2014 type midterm like the last Obama one.
https://tinyurl.com/u9e7u2mm
The online right was infected with lies about how Iran would instantly get $300 billion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Most political panics and freakouts are in fact based on bullshit and single interest types are the most affected by op bullshit.
And the Deep State has been throwing op after op at the Trump administration based on bullshit and the choir in social media sings the same ole song.
About 40 percent of the voting population has decided everything in the media and social media in particular is bullshit leading them to tune out which is why Trump has survived in office while Nixon got taken out by an op. And if Trump gets them to the polls like his GOTV operation is attempting, then there will be no blue wave, only a tepid 2014 type midterm like the last Obama one.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 12:31 PM (E4rtv)
109
What are they using for barter? Doesn't seem like whiskey or smokes would be big there.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (JzUSu)
I'm sure they drink and smoke plenty, they just keep it out of sight.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 02, 2026 12:10 PM (JzUSu)
I'm sure they drink and smoke plenty, they just keep it out of sight.
Posted by: Cigareets and whisky and wild wild mullahs at October 02, 2026 12:32 PM (TbWk/)
110
Given the demographics of the 25 - 35 year old "working class" I'd not put too much emphasis on any sort of polling that included this demo as a significant chunk.
They're a bitter bunch. Pissed off about spending a shit ton of money on a degree in rainbow studies that doesn't mean fuckall to anyone looking for workers. They're under or unemployed by choice.
The price of literally everything's too much for them. And the economy is so bad they're down to ordering DoorDash only 4 times a week instead of every day.
They're a bitter bunch. Pissed off about spending a shit ton of money on a degree in rainbow studies that doesn't mean fuckall to anyone looking for workers. They're under or unemployed by choice.
The price of literally everything's too much for them. And the economy is so bad they're down to ordering DoorDash only 4 times a week instead of every day.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (RORbl)
111
Are the Youts still burning down France ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (MHhOG)
112
Stop thinking about Jews! Not everyone thinks about Jews! If you stop talking about Jews then I would stop talking about Jews!
Jews!
Jews!
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (mJVit)
113
If our media were working directly for the Iranian Ministry of Propaganda, what would they be doing differently?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Most people at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (2Ez/1)
115
I got my degree from the Oxbridge Institute of Oilology... though I graduated near the bottom of my class. You could say I just sqeaked through.
Posted by: Middle Eastern Oil Expert at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (7Q0e+)
Posted by: J.J. Watt at October 02, 2026 12:34 PM (J4Dwc)
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 12:34 PM (wt1Vg)
118
If anything the price of gas has nudged up in my AO over the last month by about 30 cents per gallon. I’ve given up trying to figure out the economics of how gas prices get set. No rhyme or reason that I can discern
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:28 PM (M+uMR)
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It's a very complicated futures market that has its share of speculating and manipulation. But overall, it works pretty well.
Gas prices remained fairly stable during the first Iran strikes (the "12 Day War") in 2025.
They spiked in March 2026 and have been up and down ever since. I strongly suspect that's due to speculation and manipulation, as well as China now having to buy oil on the open market.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:28 PM (M+uMR)
_________
It's a very complicated futures market that has its share of speculating and manipulation. But overall, it works pretty well.
Gas prices remained fairly stable during the first Iran strikes (the "12 Day War") in 2025.
They spiked in March 2026 and have been up and down ever since. I strongly suspect that's due to speculation and manipulation, as well as China now having to buy oil on the open market.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:34 PM (iFTx/)
119
Oil Traffic Through the Strait of Hormuz Rebounds to 98% of the Pre-War Level
That means we're losing the war. We need to find more 'rebels' to attack the shipping that we're insuring...
That means we're losing the war. We need to find more 'rebels' to attack the shipping that we're insuring...
Posted by: The City of London at October 02, 2026 12:34 PM (OX0hA)
120
The heteronormative news industry gets our goat. Why do the Straights of Hormuz get all the press?
Posted by: Poofters Of Hormuz at October 02, 2026 12:34 PM (Fn+3X)
121
I had a Datsun 620 ....that's still running in Idaho...and a Ford Courier. No frills no AC. But incredibly inexpensive to own.
Posted by: torabora at October 02, 2026 12:34 PM (1/viQ)
122
These multiple fuels are then transported to over 5,000 American fueling stations
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 02, 2026 12:30 PM (0U5gm)
There are a helluva lot more than 5,000 gas stations.
More like 150,000.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 02, 2026 12:30 PM (0U5gm)
There are a helluva lot more than 5,000 gas stations.
More like 150,000.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 02, 2026 12:35 PM (qlLNh)
123
The price of literally everything's too much for them. And the economy is so bad they're down to ordering DoorDash only 4 times a week instead of every day.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (RORbl)
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Good point.
And a number have had to significantly cut back on the rate of their several hundred dollar tattoos!!!
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (RORbl)
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Good point.
And a number have had to significantly cut back on the rate of their several hundred dollar tattoos!!!
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:35 PM (Fi81e)
124
107 Drifting towards Sri Lanka sounds so exotic. Always up for an adventure, Lovey and I may take a tour there soon.
Posted by: Thurston Howell III. at October 02, 2026 12:31 PM (Fn+3X)
Sri Lanka was Ceylon,
Now it's Sri Lanka, not Ceylon,
...
Posted by: Thurston Howell III. at October 02, 2026 12:31 PM (Fn+3X)
Sri Lanka was Ceylon,
Now it's Sri Lanka, not Ceylon,
...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:35 PM (l3cgK)
125
Those "Iranian" tankers. Registered in Iran, or just under contract? If the former, put prize crews on them, and seize them. If the latter, escort them to their home ports, and tell the owners that the Iranian contracts are void.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 12:35 PM (n2qDf)
126
>>>The Red-Green Alliance Takes Another Blow
Jul 30, 2026 — The term Red-Green Alliance refers to the growing left-wing political coalition of neo-Marxist progressives and anti-Western Islamists.
The Center for Renewing America
https://americarenewing.com
Jul 30, 2026 — The term Red-Green Alliance refers to the growing left-wing political coalition of neo-Marxist progressives and anti-Western Islamists.
The Center for Renewing America
https://americarenewing.com
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 12:35 PM (odBC9)
Posted by: dantesed at October 02, 2026 12:35 PM (Oy/m2)
128
114 Stop thinking about Jews! Not everyone thinks about Jews! If you stop talking about Jews then I would stop talking about Jews!
Jews!
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (mJVit)
Don't think about an orange Jew!
Jews!
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (mJVit)
Don't think about an orange Jew!
Posted by: Yep, you totally did at October 02, 2026 12:35 PM (TbWk/)
129
$ 6.29 here with $8.69 diesel... California...
Posted by: It's me donna
Your governor screwed the state by forcing shutdowns of refineries. You are not going to benefit much if at all from oil prices and gas prices dropping in other states. And that is because we don't have spare refining capacity in other states to pick up California as a customer to export fuel from other states to you and because CARB has specific and expensive regulations doubling over the EPA's on fuel there.
It is not readily fixable quickly without those refineries coming back online or fuel imports from other nations which at the present have their own domestic markets to be worried about.
Posted by: It's me donna
Your governor screwed the state by forcing shutdowns of refineries. You are not going to benefit much if at all from oil prices and gas prices dropping in other states. And that is because we don't have spare refining capacity in other states to pick up California as a customer to export fuel from other states to you and because CARB has specific and expensive regulations doubling over the EPA's on fuel there.
It is not readily fixable quickly without those refineries coming back online or fuel imports from other nations which at the present have their own domestic markets to be worried about.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 12:36 PM (E4rtv)
130
OT - CBS fired Tony Romo.
Posted by: mr tmz
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He was a rotten commentator, just like 98% of the others.
Some channels now have an option to watch the game without commentators, and from a behind the line view rather than sideline. I always go with that if it's available.
Posted by: mr tmz
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He was a rotten commentator, just like 98% of the others.
Some channels now have an option to watch the game without commentators, and from a behind the line view rather than sideline. I always go with that if it's available.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 02, 2026 12:36 PM (JzUSu)
131
We all had lots of fun mocking Boeing and the miserable job they've done over the last 20 years or so, but it seems they MIGHT have turned things around. I hope so, because a big chunk of American competitiveness depends on a strong Boeing.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 02, 2026 12:36 PM (Riz8t)
132
Stop thinking about Jews! Not everyone thinks about Jews! If you stop talking about Jews then I would stop talking about Jews!
Jews!
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (mJVit)
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Can we talk about the weather?
...
Jews!
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (mJVit)
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Can we talk about the weather?
...
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:36 PM (Fi81e)
133
Jul 30, 2026 — The term Red-Green Alliance refers to the growing left-wing political coalition of neo-Marxist progressives and anti-Western Islamists.
The Center for Renewing America
https://americarenewing.com
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 12:35 PM (odBC9)
Could have just said anti-western Marxists too
The Center for Renewing America
https://americarenewing.com
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 12:35 PM (odBC9)
Could have just said anti-western Marxists too
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:36 PM (mJVit)
134
France...and they just the pope visit the country. How were they able to contain "the youths" then?
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:36 PM (AKptf)
135
The Cornell case should be the final indication for many NY residents that the rule of law, and constitution has no home there.
People hand waived off the 2nd Amendment cases as some sort of parochial issue that didn’t apply to them. Same with the move to allow late term abortions and assisted suicide. The Trump prosecutions, as clear as it was they were completely political and not based on a sound, practices or textbook legal basis, got the same treatment. Now you have a case that has already been litigated based on the alleged victims statement, and they are moving in for the political kill.
I wonder- how long do you stay around for this freak show that is no longer safe or predictable for you and your family? What will one wrong think or disagreement that garners the attention of the ruling junta get you? Will it ruin your life, your families life or bankrupt you?
There are a lot of economic reasons to move out of NY. But that pales in comparison to the personal destruction they can, and will reap upon you.
People hand waived off the 2nd Amendment cases as some sort of parochial issue that didn’t apply to them. Same with the move to allow late term abortions and assisted suicide. The Trump prosecutions, as clear as it was they were completely political and not based on a sound, practices or textbook legal basis, got the same treatment. Now you have a case that has already been litigated based on the alleged victims statement, and they are moving in for the political kill.
I wonder- how long do you stay around for this freak show that is no longer safe or predictable for you and your family? What will one wrong think or disagreement that garners the attention of the ruling junta get you? Will it ruin your life, your families life or bankrupt you?
There are a lot of economic reasons to move out of NY. But that pales in comparison to the personal destruction they can, and will reap upon you.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2026 12:37 PM (f4tQo)
136
Per Brave AI on what Iranians are using for barter due to the inflation:
"At the individual level, citizens are exchanging household items for food on online platforms; common trades include sneakers for meat, books for rice, and clothes or vacuum cleaners for chicken, oil, and beans."
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
What? They're already trading books and shoes?!
So, they've already traded all their daughters?
"At the individual level, citizens are exchanging household items for food on online platforms; common trades include sneakers for meat, books for rice, and clothes or vacuum cleaners for chicken, oil, and beans."
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
What? They're already trading books and shoes?!
So, they've already traded all their daughters?
Posted by: mikeski at October 02, 2026 12:37 PM (VHUov)
137
130 114 Stop thinking about Jews! Not everyone thinks about Jews! If you stop talking about Jews then I would stop talking about Jews!
Jews!
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (mJVit)
Don't think about an orange Jew!
Posted by: Yep, you totally did at October 02, 2026 12:35 PM (TbWk/)
I remember Orange Jew-lius...
Jews!
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:33 PM (mJVit)
Don't think about an orange Jew!
Posted by: Yep, you totally did at October 02, 2026 12:35 PM (TbWk/)
I remember Orange Jew-lius...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:37 PM (l3cgK)
138
Win all the battles and lose the war is a possibility with the high command we have.
Trump will do his best to not let this happen.
Trump will do his best to not let this happen.
Posted by: connected and litigious at October 02, 2026 12:37 PM (cS1cw)
139
Can we talk about the Secret Joo Weather Machine?
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 12:37 PM (wt1Vg)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:37 PM (ExV1e)
141
IMO, the only uncertain parameter is time. The current anaconda strategy against Iran will work… if given sufficient time. My problem is I have no idea if the necessary timeframe is 10 months or 10 years; it could be anywhere in that wide range. I hope the next administration keeps this up… because I don’t expect Iran to cry uncle anytime soon. Certainly not before the midterms
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:37 PM (M+uMR)
142
There are a helluva lot more than 5,000 gas stations.
More like 150,000.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
Yes, I left out stop and robs. That number is just branded stations.
More like 150,000.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
Yes, I left out stop and robs. That number is just branded stations.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 02, 2026 12:38 PM (0U5gm)
143
Sri Lanka was Ceylon,
Now it's Sri Lanka, not Ceylon,
That's nobody's business but the Sinhalese!
Now it's Sri Lanka, not Ceylon,
That's nobody's business but the Sinhalese!
Posted by: They Might Be Giants at October 02, 2026 12:38 PM (OX0hA)
144
He was a rotten commentator, just like 98% of the others.
I use the mute button on my TV remote for a reason.
I use the mute button on my TV remote for a reason.
Posted by: dantesed at October 02, 2026 12:38 PM (Oy/m2)
145
135 Jul 30, 2026 — The term Red-Green Alliance refers to the growing left-wing political coalition of neo-Marxist progressives and anti-Western Islamists.
The Center for Renewing America
https://americarenewing.com
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 12:35 PM (odBC9)
Could have just said anti-western Marxists too
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:36 PM (mJVit)
I didn't know, so I looked it up!
The Center for Renewing America
https://americarenewing.com
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 12:35 PM (odBC9)
Could have just said anti-western Marxists too
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:36 PM (mJVit)
I didn't know, so I looked it up!
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 12:38 PM (odBC9)
146
Are the Youts still burning down France ?
I heard there's lots of farting in specific directions.
I heard there's lots of farting in specific directions.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 02, 2026 12:38 PM (Riz8t)
147
138 Per Brave AI on what Iranians are using for barter due to the inflation:
"At the individual level, citizens are exchanging household items for food on online platforms; common trades include sneakers for meat, books for rice, and clothes or vacuum cleaners for chicken, oil, and beans."
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
What? They're already trading books and shoes?!
So, they've already traded all their daughters?
Posted by: mikeski at October 02, 2026 12:37 PM (VHUov)
Goats, sheep, camels, donkeys, and little boys fetch a higher price
"At the individual level, citizens are exchanging household items for food on online platforms; common trades include sneakers for meat, books for rice, and clothes or vacuum cleaners for chicken, oil, and beans."
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
What? They're already trading books and shoes?!
So, they've already traded all their daughters?
Posted by: mikeski at October 02, 2026 12:37 PM (VHUov)
Goats, sheep, camels, donkeys, and little boys fetch a higher price
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:38 PM (l3cgK)
148
They spiked in March 2026 and have been up and down ever since"
Carbob pays better, and Padds 1-4 are shipping 3 times to 5 (west coast). The refinery shutdowns are catastrophic.
Carbob pays better, and Padds 1-4 are shipping 3 times to 5 (west coast). The refinery shutdowns are catastrophic.
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:38 PM (nLfmy)
149
I remember Orange Jew-lius...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:37 PM (l3cgK)
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And it's RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACES!!!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:37 PM (l3cgK)
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And it's RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACES!!!
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:38 PM (Fi81e)
150
140 Win all the battles and lose the war is a possibility with the high command we have.
Trump will do his best to not let this happen.
Posted by: connected and litigious at October 02, 2026 12:37 PM (cS1cw)
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He could pull away right now, and it would take decades for Iran to rebuild.
They'd have to become even more enthralled to China to even start. And China's Belt and Road initiative is such a success for them that they complained to the IMF that their client countries need bailouts so they can keep paying China.
Trump will do his best to not let this happen.
Posted by: connected and litigious at October 02, 2026 12:37 PM (cS1cw)
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He could pull away right now, and it would take decades for Iran to rebuild.
They'd have to become even more enthralled to China to even start. And China's Belt and Road initiative is such a success for them that they complained to the IMF that their client countries need bailouts so they can keep paying China.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:39 PM (42WUB)
151
What? They're already trading books and shoes?!
So, they've already traded all their daughters?
They are the ultimate store of value.
So, they've already traded all their daughters?
They are the ultimate store of value.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 02, 2026 12:39 PM (Riz8t)
152
We know that Stevie Ray Vaughn was not a Jew.
He wrote a song called "Couldn't Stand the Weather".
He wrote a song called "Couldn't Stand the Weather".
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:39 PM (Fi81e)
153
Goats, sheep, camels, donkeys, and little boys fetch a higher price
***
Especially when they're virgins.
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Especially when they're virgins.
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 12:39 PM (wt1Vg)
154
Probably less so for diesel and I bet it goes down less than expected"
Let's knock out more diesel production, California
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:18 PM (nLfmy)
I think Zelenskiiiiiii's goal in hitting Russian refineries is to do prevent the EU from dropping Ukraine as their BBF in exchange for cheap Russian diesel. I think this was the main reason to hit Nordstream to prevent EU backsliding for cheap Russian natural gas as well. Both cases I doubt the Ukrainians had the technical ability to do it on their own and were "sponsored" by someones who are not Ukrainian and have high technical abilities.
Let's knock out more diesel production, California
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:18 PM (nLfmy)
I think Zelenskiiiiiii's goal in hitting Russian refineries is to do prevent the EU from dropping Ukraine as their BBF in exchange for cheap Russian diesel. I think this was the main reason to hit Nordstream to prevent EU backsliding for cheap Russian natural gas as well. Both cases I doubt the Ukrainians had the technical ability to do it on their own and were "sponsored" by someones who are not Ukrainian and have high technical abilities.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2026 12:40 PM (rbvCR)
155
The big news for Democrats is that Pete Buttgigger is finally no longer at 0% with black voters.
He's at 1%.
Posted by: Ian S.
Yup. Don't Lemon
IYKYK
He's at 1%.
Posted by: Ian S.
Yup. Don't Lemon
IYKYK
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 02, 2026 12:40 PM (ItWcy)
156
145 Sri Lanka was Ceylon,
Now it's Sri Lanka, not Ceylon,
That's nobody's business but the Sinhalese!
Posted by: They Might Be Giants at October 02, 2026 12:38 PM (OX0hA)
Nice!
Now it's Sri Lanka, not Ceylon,
That's nobody's business but the Sinhalese!
Posted by: They Might Be Giants at October 02, 2026 12:38 PM (OX0hA)
Nice!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:40 PM (l3cgK)
157
fuel imports from other nations which at the present have their own domestic markets "
S Korea is shipping finished fuels to California.
That should explain it...
S Korea is shipping finished fuels to California.
That should explain it...
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:40 PM (nLfmy)
158
157 The big news for Democrats is that Pete Buttgigger is finally no longer at 0% with black voters.
He's at 1%.
Posted by: Ian S.
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He's gonna sweep South Carolina with those numbers!
He's at 1%.
Posted by: Ian S.
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He's gonna sweep South Carolina with those numbers!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:40 PM (42WUB)
159
There is no "we" in Orange Jewlius!!!
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:40 PM (mJVit)
160
It took a president willing to face a short term gasoline price hike to put an end to this crap from Iran.
He was the perfect guy to do it.
Drumpf, you magnificence scalp weasel sporting president you. Rushmore has room.
He was the perfect guy to do it.
Drumpf, you magnificence scalp weasel sporting president you. Rushmore has room.
Posted by: I dunno how it turns out for the mid term, but it needed to be done now at October 02, 2026 12:41 PM (anL5R)
161
> Are his eateries okay?
Oh, that's Tony Roma...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (l3cgK)
Used to eat there all the time.
The one here closed down, as did most of the others, I think.
Oh, that's Tony Roma...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:29 PM (l3cgK)
Used to eat there all the time.
The one here closed down, as did most of the others, I think.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 02, 2026 12:41 PM (qlLNh)
162
162 It took a president willing to face a short term gasoline price hike to put an end to this crap from Iran.
He was the perfect guy to do it.
Drumpf, you magnificence scalp weasel sporting president you. Rushmore has room.
Posted by: I dunno how it turns out for the mid term, but it needed to be done now at October 02, 2026 12:41 PM (anL5R)
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"Trump shouldn't have reordered global geopolitics in America's favor because he might lose the midterms."
"Biden should flood the country with illegals to change the makeup of the nation, no matter what happens in the midterms."
He was the perfect guy to do it.
Drumpf, you magnificence scalp weasel sporting president you. Rushmore has room.
Posted by: I dunno how it turns out for the mid term, but it needed to be done now at October 02, 2026 12:41 PM (anL5R)
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"Trump shouldn't have reordered global geopolitics in America's favor because he might lose the midterms."
"Biden should flood the country with illegals to change the makeup of the nation, no matter what happens in the midterms."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:41 PM (42WUB)
163
Bessent 2028. There. I said it.
Posted by: runner
He would be the 2nd gay president.
3rd if you count Buchanan.
Posted by: runner
He would be the 2nd gay president.
3rd if you count Buchanan.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 02, 2026 12:42 PM (QO/2M)
164
Sri Lanka was Ceylon,
Now it's Sri Lanka, not Ceylon,
That's nobody's business but the Sinhalese!
Posted by: They Might Be Giants at October 02, 2026 12:38 PM (OX0hA)
Once upon a time it was Serendip.
Now it's Sri Lanka, not Ceylon,
That's nobody's business but the Sinhalese!
Posted by: They Might Be Giants at October 02, 2026 12:38 PM (OX0hA)
Once upon a time it was Serendip.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2026 12:42 PM (rbvCR)
165
Yet again, everybody on the right has heard "believes" something I have never heard about.
If they want you're input, they'll make a caricature of the right and dismiss it.
Posted by: Axeman
Consider fire alarms. Activists on the right or left with special interests trip fire alarms on social media or the decaying mass media.
And that fire alarm response then becomes a doomer op aimed at the right, never the left because social and mass media is overwhelmingly leftist in orientation.
All is designed to produce fear, uncertainty, and doubt. But at a certain point, people just ignore it and live their lives and the harbingers of doom themselves suddenly find themselves alone shivering in the cold. That is when a number of them turn into bitter assholes like Ann Coulter or even the current Greenies that are floundering because their Climate Change mantra is dying in with global elites moving on to AI which requires gobs of energy.
If they want you're input, they'll make a caricature of the right and dismiss it.
Posted by: Axeman
Consider fire alarms. Activists on the right or left with special interests trip fire alarms on social media or the decaying mass media.
And that fire alarm response then becomes a doomer op aimed at the right, never the left because social and mass media is overwhelmingly leftist in orientation.
All is designed to produce fear, uncertainty, and doubt. But at a certain point, people just ignore it and live their lives and the harbingers of doom themselves suddenly find themselves alone shivering in the cold. That is when a number of them turn into bitter assholes like Ann Coulter or even the current Greenies that are floundering because their Climate Change mantra is dying in with global elites moving on to AI which requires gobs of energy.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 12:42 PM (E4rtv)
166
Alfred E Buttplug is at 1% amongst the ninjas?
Clearly he's going to win all the swing states and Iowa too.
Clearly he's going to win all the swing states and Iowa too.
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 12:42 PM (wt1Vg)
167
Democrats have a serious turnout problem.
Which is weird if gas prices are a motivator to vote.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:20 PM (42WUB)
I can't WAIT for the commentary from Crockett in Texas.
"You just KNOW I'da beat dat honkey's ass!"
And the bitch of it is that she might have done better. But her making a stink about it, plus the DNC-rigged Democrat primary calendar makes Kamala absolutely inevitable as the Dem nominee.
Which is weird if gas prices are a motivator to vote.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:20 PM (42WUB)
I can't WAIT for the commentary from Crockett in Texas.
"You just KNOW I'da beat dat honkey's ass!"
And the bitch of it is that she might have done better. But her making a stink about it, plus the DNC-rigged Democrat primary calendar makes Kamala absolutely inevitable as the Dem nominee.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 02, 2026 12:43 PM (gLYp7)
168
As improbable as it may seem, JJ Watt has managed to be even worse than Tony Romo. Man do I miss the good old days of Pat Summeral and John Madden, Dick Enberg and Merlin Olsen. There is not one contemporary announcing team that I enjoy…. Not even a Keith Jackson for college ball. Whoa Nellie!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:43 PM (M+uMR)
169
122 The heteronormative news industry gets our goat. Why do the Straights of Hormuz get all the press?
Posted by: Poofters Of Hormuz at October 02, 2026 12:34 PM (Fn+3X)
I saw Straights of Hormuz open for Butthole Surfers at The Man Cave in '03.
Posted by: Poofters Of Hormuz at October 02, 2026 12:34 PM (Fn+3X)
I saw Straights of Hormuz open for Butthole Surfers at The Man Cave in '03.
Posted by: Don Lemon at October 02, 2026 12:43 PM (r7+Q7)
170
161 There is no "we" in Orange Jewlius!!!
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:40 PM (mJVit)
If you type it backwards, there is:
suilweJ egnarO
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:40 PM (mJVit)
If you type it backwards, there is:
suilweJ egnarO
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 12:43 PM (odBC9)
171
Sri Lanka was Ceylon,
Now it's Sri Lanka, not Ceylon,
...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
No one ever remembers us.
-- Taprobane and Serendib
Now it's Sri Lanka, not Ceylon,
...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
No one ever remembers us.
-- Taprobane and Serendib
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 12:43 PM (77rzZ)
172
Gas is still over $4.00 and Trump is fighting for the Jews. I'm going to stay home, or maybe even vote Democrat and so should you!
- "Conservative Influencers" on Social Media
- "Conservative Influencers" on Social Media
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 02, 2026 12:43 PM (Dv3i1)
173
Another bit of data:
The US has been trying to sell 40 million barrels out of the SPR for months. No buyers.
Remember when we were going to empty the SPR?
The US has been trying to sell 40 million barrels out of the SPR for months. No buyers.
Remember when we were going to empty the SPR?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:43 PM (42WUB)
174
He would be the 2nd gay president.
3rd if you count Buchanan.
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not every Scotsman is ghey, you know...
3rd if you count Buchanan.
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not every Scotsman is ghey, you know...
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:44 PM (AKptf)
175
Bessent 2028. There. I said it.
Posted by: runner
Yep. Arrogant gay ex-Soros money-man. That is going to drag in the votes all by itself. Might as well hope that Milo were born in the US since that is how successful Bessent 2028 will be.
Posted by: runner
Yep. Arrogant gay ex-Soros money-man. That is going to drag in the votes all by itself. Might as well hope that Milo were born in the US since that is how successful Bessent 2028 will be.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2026 12:44 PM (rbvCR)
176
But her making a stink about it, plus the DNC-rigged Democrat primary calendar makes Kamala absolutely inevitable as the Dem nominee.
Oh Lord, not you too.
Oh Lord, not you too.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 02, 2026 12:44 PM (Riz8t)
177
169 I can't WAIT for the commentary from Crockett in Texas.
"You just KNOW I'da beat dat honkey's ass!"
And the bitch of it is that she might have done better. But her making a stink about it, plus the DNC-rigged Democrat primary calendar makes Kamala absolutely inevitable as the Dem nominee.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 02, 2026 12:43 PM (gLYp7)
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The establishment gave the black electorate an excuse to not compromise in the near future by stealing primaries from them in TX and MI (yes, white lady was the clear racial preference for the black electorate over El-Sayed, Detroit out front should have told ya).
"You just KNOW I'da beat dat honkey's ass!"
And the bitch of it is that she might have done better. But her making a stink about it, plus the DNC-rigged Democrat primary calendar makes Kamala absolutely inevitable as the Dem nominee.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 02, 2026 12:43 PM (gLYp7)
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The establishment gave the black electorate an excuse to not compromise in the near future by stealing primaries from them in TX and MI (yes, white lady was the clear racial preference for the black electorate over El-Sayed, Detroit out front should have told ya).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:44 PM (42WUB)
178
Damn, now I want an Orange Julius.
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (77rzZ)
179
harbingers of doom"... opened for Iron Maiden at the Hammersmith Odeon.
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (nLfmy)
180
There are a lot of economic reasons to move out of NY. But that pales in comparison to the personal destruction they can, and will reap upon you.
Posted by: Marcus T
I live in NC 10 miles south of the VA border, with kin in DE and NJ. Will never cross the VA border while CIA Barbie and the AG who wants to murder Republican children are in charge. I remain armed and dangerous to all Communists.
Posted by: Marcus T
I live in NC 10 miles south of the VA border, with kin in DE and NJ. Will never cross the VA border while CIA Barbie and the AG who wants to murder Republican children are in charge. I remain armed and dangerous to all Communists.
Posted by: Don't Tread On Me at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (Fn+3X)
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (wt1Vg)
182
> They are the ultimate store of value.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 02, 2026 12:39 PM (Riz8t)
Nah... Middle Eastern women are the classic example of a depreciating asset.
They are sometimes smokeshows when young (especially Iranian women), but they hit the The Wall early, hard, and fast.
Go to bed with Princess Jasmine, wake up with someone who looks like a linebacker.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 02, 2026 12:39 PM (Riz8t)
Nah... Middle Eastern women are the classic example of a depreciating asset.
They are sometimes smokeshows when young (especially Iranian women), but they hit the The Wall early, hard, and fast.
Go to bed with Princess Jasmine, wake up with someone who looks like a linebacker.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (qlLNh)
183
I have seen at least fifty ads in the last five weeks, maybe a dozen unique pitches, all just the candidate looking into the camera and asking for money.
The best candidate begging for money ad was Katy Stout asking for money to defeat Brandon Herrera because he owns a copy of, and has read, Mein Kampf... complete with a photo of him holding the Communist Manifesto.
The best candidate begging for money ad was Katy Stout asking for money to defeat Brandon Herrera because he owns a copy of, and has read, Mein Kampf... complete with a photo of him holding the Communist Manifesto.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (ExV1e)
184
162 It took a president willing to face a short term gasoline price hike to put an end to this crap from Iran.
He was the perfect guy to do it.
Drumpf, you magnificence scalp weasel sporting president you. Rushmore has room.
Posted by: I dunno how it turns out for the mid term
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More than that. Predictions were widespread IRGC terrorism, global economic depression, risk of war with Russia and China, and a crisis of Iranian catspaws like the Houthis, Iraqi militia, and other bad actors overturning US Arab 'allies'.
He was the perfect guy to do it.
Drumpf, you magnificence scalp weasel sporting president you. Rushmore has room.
Posted by: I dunno how it turns out for the mid term
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More than that. Predictions were widespread IRGC terrorism, global economic depression, risk of war with Russia and China, and a crisis of Iranian catspaws like the Houthis, Iraqi militia, and other bad actors overturning US Arab 'allies'.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (E4rtv)
185
I missed it, but was it reported here at AoS recently that Candace Owens has outed herself as a lesbian? Not that there’s anything wrong with it! Maybe she wants to move to Iran…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (M+uMR)
186
not every Scotsman is ghey, you know...
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:44 PM (AKptf)
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Just ghey-adjacent.
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:44 PM (AKptf)
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Just ghey-adjacent.
Posted by: Axeman at October 02, 2026 12:46 PM (Fi81e)
187
176 He would be the 2nd gay president.
3rd if you count Buchanan.
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not every Scotsman is ghey, you know...
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:44 PM (AKptf)
Yet sheep still cower...
3rd if you count Buchanan.
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not every Scotsman is ghey, you know...
Posted by: runner at October 02, 2026 12:44 PM (AKptf)
Yet sheep still cower...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:46 PM (l3cgK)
188
Energy is always in demand even in the best of circumstances.
Posted by: Halfhand at October 02, 2026 12:07 PM (PMyU3)
As long as there are toddlers running around, there will be moms begging for more energy to keep up with them.
Posted by: Halfhand at October 02, 2026 12:07 PM (PMyU3)
As long as there are toddlers running around, there will be moms begging for more energy to keep up with them.
Posted by: pookysgirl, mom to a very active toddler at October 02, 2026 12:46 PM (Wt5PA)
189
They are sometimes smokeshows when young (especially Iranian women), but they hit the The Wall early, hard, and fast.
___
When the eyebrows meet in the middle, it's over.
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When the eyebrows meet in the middle, it's over.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 02, 2026 12:46 PM (Dv3i1)
190
Used to eat there all the time.
The one here closed down, as did most of the others, I think.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
My son's first job was at Tony Roma's. He didn't much like working there.
The one here closed down, as did most of the others, I think.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
My son's first job was at Tony Roma's. He didn't much like working there.
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 12:46 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:46 PM (nLfmy)
192
Nah... Middle Eastern women are the classic example of a depreciating asset.
They are sometimes smokeshows when young (especially Iranian women), but they hit the The Wall early, hard, and fast.
Go to bed with Princess Jasmine, wake up with someone who looks like a linebacker.
Sure, if you buy the Whole Life, instead of Term.
They are sometimes smokeshows when young (especially Iranian women), but they hit the The Wall early, hard, and fast.
Go to bed with Princess Jasmine, wake up with someone who looks like a linebacker.
Sure, if you buy the Whole Life, instead of Term.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 02, 2026 12:47 PM (Riz8t)
193
193 Once upon a time it was Serendip."
And Aurther C Clarke's source of little boys...
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:46 PM (nLfmy)
He was a muzzie?
And Aurther C Clarke's source of little boys...
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:46 PM (nLfmy)
He was a muzzie?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:47 PM (l3cgK)
194
It's still Ceylon, Burma, Turkey, and Constantinople!
Posted by: Bechuanaland, Too! at October 02, 2026 12:47 PM (Fn+3X)
195
As long as there are toddlers running around, there will be moms begging for more energy to keep up with them
***
Insert Lindsay Clancy joke here.
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Insert Lindsay Clancy joke here.
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 12:47 PM (wt1Vg)
196
Tony Romo can take consolation in the fact that he's not Mark Sanchez.
Posted by: mr tmz at October 02, 2026 12:47 PM (rJ48h)
197
Taprobane and Serendib
***
I remember those guys! They were hilarious on Letterman's show.
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM
Until their tiger mauled one of them.
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I remember those guys! They were hilarious on Letterman's show.
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM
Until their tiger mauled one of them.
Posted by: toby928(c) at October 02, 2026 12:47 PM (4NO2D)
198
The US has been trying to sell 40 million barrels out of the SPR for months. No buyers"
No capacity.
No capacity.
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:48 PM (nLfmy)
199
We all had lots of fun mocking Boeing and the miserable job they've done over the last 20 years or so, but it seems they MIGHT have turned things around. I hope so, because a big chunk of American competitiveness depends on a strong Boeing.
Yup. The structural strength of the much-maligned 737 MAX got a serious real world test on the flyDubai attempted hijacking and impressed a lot of people. I want Boeing to do well, just like how I mocked Intel for the last 10 years but I'm rooting for them.
Yup. The structural strength of the much-maligned 737 MAX got a serious real world test on the flyDubai attempted hijacking and impressed a lot of people. I want Boeing to do well, just like how I mocked Intel for the last 10 years but I'm rooting for them.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2026 12:48 PM (2ocoG)
200
suilweJ egnarO
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 12:43 PM (odBC9)
You are falling for the propaganda.
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 12:43 PM (odBC9)
You are falling for the propaganda.
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:48 PM (mJVit)
201
Tony Romo can take consolation in the fact that he's not Mark Sanchez.
And in the fact that he isn't Joe Buck. Hate that guy.
And in the fact that he isn't Joe Buck. Hate that guy.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2026 12:48 PM (2ocoG)
202
Damn, now I want an Orange Julius.
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (77rzZ)
A shot of Pinnacle Whipped Cream vodka mixed into a glass of orange juice tastes a lot like an Orange Julius.
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (77rzZ)
A shot of Pinnacle Whipped Cream vodka mixed into a glass of orange juice tastes a lot like an Orange Julius.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 12:48 PM (n2qDf)
203
> 180 Damn, now I want an Orange Julius.
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (77rzZ)
Could go for one of those myself.
I also miss the Shakey's Pizza buffet.
"Shakey" got that nickname due to the recurrent malaria he'd picked up in WWII (my grandfather had the same).
Back then men embraced nicknames like that.
Today they get PTSD if you forget to call them "xim".
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (77rzZ)
Could go for one of those myself.
I also miss the Shakey's Pizza buffet.
"Shakey" got that nickname due to the recurrent malaria he'd picked up in WWII (my grandfather had the same).
Back then men embraced nicknames like that.
Today they get PTSD if you forget to call them "xim".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 02, 2026 12:49 PM (qlLNh)
204
These are OH numbers. OH hasn't had a serious black candidate...ever?
==
Blackwell got 1.5 million votes for Gov. Sadly Strickland got 2.1 million.
So serious, 1.5 million isn't bad, but not successful.
==
Blackwell got 1.5 million votes for Gov. Sadly Strickland got 2.1 million.
So serious, 1.5 million isn't bad, but not successful.
Posted by: I dunno how it turns out for the mid term, but it needed to be done now at October 02, 2026 12:49 PM (anL5R)
205
170 As improbable as it may seem, JJ Watt has managed to be even worse than Tony Romo. Man do I miss the good old days of Pat Summeral and John Madden, Dick Enberg and Merlin Olsen. There is not one contemporary announcing team that I enjoy…. Not even a Keith Jackson for college ball. Whoa Nellie!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Story of our infotainment world nowadays. All of it and the people on it are crap in broadcast and cable media. My theory is crap executives hire crap personnel based on criteria other than performance. A Confederacy of Dunces more or less.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Story of our infotainment world nowadays. All of it and the people on it are crap in broadcast and cable media. My theory is crap executives hire crap personnel based on criteria other than performance. A Confederacy of Dunces more or less.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 12:49 PM (E4rtv)
206
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (E4rtv)
What is the last "prediction" the Left got correct. I'm serious.
What is the last "prediction" the Left got correct. I'm serious.
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:49 PM (mJVit)
207
Sail on, Ceylon sailor.
Posted by: The Beach Boys at October 02, 2026 12:49 PM (2Ez/1)
208
They're a bitter bunch. Pissed off about spending a shit ton of money on a degree in rainbow studies that doesn't mean fuckall to anyone looking for workers. They're under or unemployed by choice.
Based on social media, a number of them believe that folks graduating in HS in 1980 were able to move into 2500 sqft houses, with all the modern amenities and safety features, for $18K. When told the median home size, and price, not to mention the 16% mortgage rates, they'll call you a liar and resume their calls for abolishing the elderly.
Based on social media, a number of them believe that folks graduating in HS in 1980 were able to move into 2500 sqft houses, with all the modern amenities and safety features, for $18K. When told the median home size, and price, not to mention the 16% mortgage rates, they'll call you a liar and resume their calls for abolishing the elderly.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 12:50 PM (ExV1e)
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I missed it, but was it reported here at AoS recently that Candace Owens has outed herself as a lesbian? Not that there’s anything wrong with it! Maybe she wants to move to Iran…
She didn't out herself, people found her profile on a lesbian dating app. And there have been rumors for years, because her husband looks gayer than garrett in a musical.
She didn't out herself, people found her profile on a lesbian dating app. And there have been rumors for years, because her husband looks gayer than garrett in a musical.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2026 12:50 PM (2ocoG)
210
You are wrong about oil prices. Last week here it was $4.09 gas, $6.19 diesel. Yesterday it was $3.99gas, $5.89 diesel. All the stations in town dropped on the same day.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 02, 2026 12:51 PM (bkuEU)
211
Oil is fungible, and unfortunately, so are my toenails.
Posted by: Dr. Scholls at October 02, 2026 12:51 PM (Fn+3X)
212
Who controls the US refinery capacity choke-point?
Posted by: davidt at October 02, 2026 12:51 PM (Q+gd/)
213
214 Who controls the US refinery capacity choke-point?
Posted by: davidt at October 02, 2026 12:51 PM (Q+gd/)
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I'm not saying it's Big Penguin, but...
Posted by: davidt at October 02, 2026 12:51 PM (Q+gd/)
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I'm not saying it's Big Penguin, but...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:51 PM (42WUB)
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205 > 180 Damn, now I want an Orange Julius.
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (77rzZ)
Could go for one of those myself.
I also miss the Shakey's Pizza buffet
Come visit me sometime.
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 12:45 PM (77rzZ)
Could go for one of those myself.
I also miss the Shakey's Pizza buffet
Come visit me sometime.
Posted by: Stuckey's at October 02, 2026 12:51 PM (2Ez/1)
215
209 Sail on, Ceylon sailor.
Posted by: The Beach Boys at October 02, 2026 12:49 PM (2Ez/1)
Ceylon,
takes me away,
to where I've always heard it could be,
...
Posted by: The Beach Boys at October 02, 2026 12:49 PM (2Ez/1)
Ceylon,
takes me away,
to where I've always heard it could be,
...
Posted by: Christopher Cross at October 02, 2026 12:51 PM (l3cgK)
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201 We all had lots of fun mocking Boeing and the miserable job they've done over the last 20 years or so, but it seems they MIGHT have turned things around. I hope so, because a big chunk of American competitiveness depends on a strong Boeing.
Yup. The structural strength of the much-maligned 737 MAX got a serious real world test on the flyDubai attempted hijacking and impressed a lot of people. I want Boeing to do well, just like how I mocked Intel for the last 10 years but I'm rooting for them.
Posted by: Ian S.
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Kind of reminds me of the scene at the end of the original Airport where Joe Patrone pats the Boeing 707 airplane with a gaping hole with an atta baby.
Yup. The structural strength of the much-maligned 737 MAX got a serious real world test on the flyDubai attempted hijacking and impressed a lot of people. I want Boeing to do well, just like how I mocked Intel for the last 10 years but I'm rooting for them.
Posted by: Ian S.
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Kind of reminds me of the scene at the end of the original Airport where Joe Patrone pats the Boeing 707 airplane with a gaping hole with an atta baby.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 12:51 PM (E4rtv)
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As long as there are toddlers running around, there will be moms begging for more energy to keep up with them.
Posted by: pookysgirl
Just put every toddler on a treadmill, and we'll never run out of energy.
Posted by: pookysgirl
Just put every toddler on a treadmill, and we'll never run out of energy.
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 12:52 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: naturalfake at October 02, 2026 12:52 PM (YSUhf)
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> were able to move into 2500 sqft houses,
My first place was a 2 BR apartment, shared with three other guys.
One took the couch and one slept in a sleeping bag on the living room floor (the rent proportions were adjusted accordingly).
We all had shit jobs, so that's what we could afford.
My first place was a 2 BR apartment, shared with three other guys.
One took the couch and one slept in a sleeping bag on the living room floor (the rent proportions were adjusted accordingly).
We all had shit jobs, so that's what we could afford.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 02, 2026 12:52 PM (qlLNh)
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She didn't out herself, people found her profile on a lesbian dating app. And there have been rumors for years, because her husband looks gayer than garrett in a musical.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2026 12:50 PM (2ocoG)
Would a midget lesbian be a carpet munchkin?
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2026 12:50 PM (2ocoG)
Would a midget lesbian be a carpet munchkin?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 12:52 PM (n2qDf)
221
Iran published its letter urging Democrats to side with Iran as usual and vote against the GOP.['i]
So democrats, how does it feel knowing that the enemy of America recognizes you are the weaker party and the ones they can bully?
So democrats, how does it feel knowing that the enemy of America recognizes you are the weaker party and the ones they can bully?
Posted by: Diogenes at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (2WIwB)
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But what about the price of eggs?
Posted by: wth at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (UjdFS)
223
Just put every toddler on a treadmill
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 12:52 PM
or a rotisserie.
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 12:52 PM
or a rotisserie.
Posted by: Jonathan Swift at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (4NO2D)
224
Joe Buck is the worst. He knows less than a box of rubber bands.
Posted by: dantesed at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (Oy/m2)
225
Visual proof of Bessent's claim:About 20 empty Iranian tankers are now stranded off the coast of Sri Lanka. They cannot go back to Iran because of the blockade.
And the US is pressuring Sri Lanka not to allow them to refuel and resupply.
Time to send in the French "Rainbow Warrior" frogmen.
They know how to solve that problem.
And the US is pressuring Sri Lanka not to allow them to refuel and resupply.
Time to send in the French "Rainbow Warrior" frogmen.
They know how to solve that problem.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (HlyYF)
226
Oops
Posted by: Diogenes at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (nLfmy)
228
Anyone who votes for any democrat in the midterms hates America. There, I said it
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:54 PM (M+uMR)
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> Ceylon,
takes me away,
Wife: My husband, some hotshot.
Here's his ancient Tamil secret.
We need more Calgon!
Customer: Ancient Tamil secret, huh?
takes me away,
Wife: My husband, some hotshot.
Here's his ancient Tamil secret.
We need more Calgon!
Customer: Ancient Tamil secret, huh?
Posted by: Sri Lankan Laundry at October 02, 2026 12:54 PM (qlLNh)
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214 Who controls the US refinery capacity choke-point?
Posted by: davidt
EPA. Takes a huge amount of risk for an oil company to build a new refinery in the US and years of construction. Putting up a datacenter or a nat gas power plant is a snap compared to refineries. One of the most complicated structures with some of the harshest environmental limits on any manufacturing. Mebbe comparable to the massive cpu fabs and packaging plants in timescale if not environmental regulations.
Posted by: davidt
EPA. Takes a huge amount of risk for an oil company to build a new refinery in the US and years of construction. Putting up a datacenter or a nat gas power plant is a snap compared to refineries. One of the most complicated structures with some of the harshest environmental limits on any manufacturing. Mebbe comparable to the massive cpu fabs and packaging plants in timescale if not environmental regulations.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 12:54 PM (E4rtv)
231
A shot of Pinnacle Whipped Cream vodka mixed into a glass of orange juice tastes a lot like an Orange Julius.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 12:48 PM (n2qDf)
You, sir, are speaking my language!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 12:48 PM (n2qDf)
You, sir, are speaking my language!
Posted by: pookysgirl, on the wagon for five more months at October 02, 2026 12:54 PM (Wt5PA)
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I remember there was a report of a couple of huge Iranian owned tankers that the US had intercepted and were heading towards American ports in the last couple of weeks.
Not because Iran was selling to us, but because we had seized the tankers and were going to make a shit load of money from selling it instead of Iran selling it.
Not because Iran was selling to us, but because we had seized the tankers and were going to make a shit load of money from selling it instead of Iran selling it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:55 PM (42WUB)
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Fun fact: Sri Lanka changed its capital several years ago.
They abandoned the old one before it was even finished. They kept announcing plans to finish it, but then just one more thing would come up to delay it.
They abandoned the old one before it was even finished. They kept announcing plans to finish it, but then just one more thing would come up to delay it.
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 12:55 PM (77rzZ)
234
GENOCCIDE!!!!
In case you were wondering what the next move from the left will be. All those starving children in Iran.
Bank on it.
That whole "Death to America" thing was just a college prank to sell T-shirts.
In case you were wondering what the next move from the left will be. All those starving children in Iran.
Bank on it.
That whole "Death to America" thing was just a college prank to sell T-shirts.
Posted by: Orson at October 02, 2026 12:55 PM (dIske)
235
Pinnacle Whipped Cream vodka mixed into a glass of orange juice"
*checking Totalwine.com *
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (nLfmy)
***
The true Beta man's drink.
Be sure to extend the pinky finger while sipping.
*checking Totalwine.com *
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (nLfmy)
***
The true Beta man's drink.
Be sure to extend the pinky finger while sipping.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 02, 2026 12:55 PM (2WIwB)
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*checking Totalwine.com *
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (nLfmy)
Available at Walmart. Inexpensive, too.
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (nLfmy)
Available at Walmart. Inexpensive, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 12:55 PM (n2qDf)
237
Do Cavernous Nostrils' cavernous nostrils get in the way when she's licking carpet?
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 12:55 PM (wt1Vg)
238
Damn, now I want an Orange Julius.
Posted by: Bulg
.......
Make mine with a little vodka, please.
Posted by: Bulg
.......
Make mine with a little vodka, please.
Posted by: wth at October 02, 2026 12:56 PM (UjdFS)
239
Who controls the US refinery capacity choke-point?"
There's this bunch of idiots on a hill in DC...
There's this bunch of idiots on a hill in DC...
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:56 PM (nLfmy)
240
Joe Buck is the worst. He knows less than a box of rubber bands.
Posted by: dantesed at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (Oy/m2)
And his partner, Troy Aikman, while he was a great QB, just takes the whole thing too seriously. He treats every game like it’s the war with Iran. Hey Troy: It’s just a game… can we have some fun please?
Posted by: dantesed at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (Oy/m2)
And his partner, Troy Aikman, while he was a great QB, just takes the whole thing too seriously. He treats every game like it’s the war with Iran. Hey Troy: It’s just a game… can we have some fun please?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:56 PM (M+uMR)
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Posted by: pookysgirl, on the wagon for five more months at October 02, 2026 12:54 PM (Wt5PA)
Been wondering how you are, good to see you.
Been wondering how you are, good to see you.
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 12:56 PM (mJVit)
242
Who controls the US refinery capacity choke-point?
Posted by: davidt at October 02, 2026 12:51 PM (Q+gd/)
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I'm not saying it's Big Penguin, but...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:51 PM (42WUB)
_____
While there are probably hundreds of thousands of gas stations, there are surprisingly few refineries. Maybe only 100.
Part of the problem is that three major ones closed in the last year. And while our side mostly blames it on the CA refinery closings, a big one closed in TX as well.
There's also been a movement to refining to diesel rather than "normal" gas.
Posted by: davidt at October 02, 2026 12:51 PM (Q+gd/)
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I'm not saying it's Big Penguin, but...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:51 PM (42WUB)
_____
While there are probably hundreds of thousands of gas stations, there are surprisingly few refineries. Maybe only 100.
Part of the problem is that three major ones closed in the last year. And while our side mostly blames it on the CA refinery closings, a big one closed in TX as well.
There's also been a movement to refining to diesel rather than "normal" gas.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:56 PM (iFTx/)
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232 214 Who controls the US refinery capacity choke-point?
Posted by: davidt
EPA. Takes a huge amount of risk for an oil company to build a new refinery in the US and years of construction. Putting up a datacenter or a nat gas power plant is a snap compared to refineries. One of the most complicated structures with some of the harshest environmental limits on any manufacturing. Mebbe comparable to the massive cpu fabs and packaging plants in timescale if not environmental regulations.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 12:54 PM (E4rtv)
In Sandy Eggo, it takes YEARS for a business to start building their place...I've seen so many eateries put up signs, "Coming Soon!"...only to take more than a YEAR to start construction, and another YEAR or TWO to finish up and open...
Posted by: davidt
EPA. Takes a huge amount of risk for an oil company to build a new refinery in the US and years of construction. Putting up a datacenter or a nat gas power plant is a snap compared to refineries. One of the most complicated structures with some of the harshest environmental limits on any manufacturing. Mebbe comparable to the massive cpu fabs and packaging plants in timescale if not environmental regulations.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 12:54 PM (E4rtv)
In Sandy Eggo, it takes YEARS for a business to start building their place...I've seen so many eateries put up signs, "Coming Soon!"...only to take more than a YEAR to start construction, and another YEAR or TWO to finish up and open...
Posted by: Christopher Cross at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (l3cgK)
244
Pinnacle Whipped Cream vodka mixed into a glass of orange juice"
*checking Totalwine.com *
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (nLfmy)
Just have your boyfriend grab some on the way home.
*checking Totalwine.com *
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 12:53 PM (nLfmy)
Just have your boyfriend grab some on the way home.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (gLYp7)
245
I'm a little skeptical of "Iran is going to fall" talk. But I'm happy to keep punishing it and see what shakes out.
Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (BHTo4)
246
It is so incredible to have an American president that actually works for the benefit of Americans and American interests. If gas starts dropping (hopefully soon), he will have quite a crown of achievement going into the midterms.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (qBdHI)
247
Too slow.
Posted by: wth at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (UjdFS)
Posted by: John Lennon at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (2ocoG)
249
It says the levels are the same, not that the price of meeting those levels is the same. It increases the delivery cost by like $30/barrel…
Oil prices go up? Instant 20 cent hike at the pump. Oil prices go down? 'Sorry, we need 6 months to adjust to market conditions.' Classic!
The incredible part to all of this is that nothing has changed except the US has lost worldwide credibility, a ton of cash, increased cost of living, national demoralization, and a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
Scholars will point to this stupid time period when discussing some consequential worldwide crisis sometime down the road - be it economic, political, diplomatic, or otherwise.
So after depleting most of our missiles, tens of billions of taxpayer dollars on the credit card, and 7 full months of utter devastation, we have managed to develop enough insanely costly and unsustainable workarounds to get... almost as much oil as before.
Art of the fucking deal, everyone.
Oil prices go up? Instant 20 cent hike at the pump. Oil prices go down? 'Sorry, we need 6 months to adjust to market conditions.' Classic!
The incredible part to all of this is that nothing has changed except the US has lost worldwide credibility, a ton of cash, increased cost of living, national demoralization, and a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
Scholars will point to this stupid time period when discussing some consequential worldwide crisis sometime down the road - be it economic, political, diplomatic, or otherwise.
So after depleting most of our missiles, tens of billions of taxpayer dollars on the credit card, and 7 full months of utter devastation, we have managed to develop enough insanely costly and unsustainable workarounds to get... almost as much oil as before.
Art of the fucking deal, everyone.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (t19vo)
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211 I missed it, but was it reported here at AoS recently that Candace Owens has outed herself as a lesbian? Not that there’s anything wrong with it! Maybe she wants to move to Iran…
She didn't out herself, people found her profile on a lesbian dating app. And there have been rumors for years, because her husband looks gayer than garrett in a musical.
Posted by: Ian S.
She was stupid enough to proclaim respect muh privacy rather than claiming those accounts were not hers. Plus she is now facing a credible massive lawsuit in UT over her fake and gay coverage blaming someone totally innocent of shooting Charlie Kirk. I think other lawsuits are brewing, sponsors of her show are cancelling and even Tuca seems to have washed his hands of her. Viewership and engagement stats are crashing as well.
She didn't out herself, people found her profile on a lesbian dating app. And there have been rumors for years, because her husband looks gayer than garrett in a musical.
Posted by: Ian S.
She was stupid enough to proclaim respect muh privacy rather than claiming those accounts were not hers. Plus she is now facing a credible massive lawsuit in UT over her fake and gay coverage blaming someone totally innocent of shooting Charlie Kirk. I think other lawsuits are brewing, sponsors of her show are cancelling and even Tuca seems to have washed his hands of her. Viewership and engagement stats are crashing as well.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (E4rtv)
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There's also been a movement to refining to diesel rather than "normal" gas.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:56 PM (iFTx/)
Why have diesel prices spiked even more than normal gasoline prices??
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:56 PM (iFTx/)
Why have diesel prices spiked even more than normal gasoline prices??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (M+uMR)
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247 I'm a little skeptical of "Iran is going to fall" talk. But I'm happy to keep punishing it and see what shakes out.
Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (BHTo4)
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Sanctions create a black market that allows the sanctioned nation to survive.
Blockades of ports that accept roughly 90% of all trade of a nation are another level.
Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (BHTo4)
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Sanctions create a black market that allows the sanctioned nation to survive.
Blockades of ports that accept roughly 90% of all trade of a nation are another level.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 12:58 PM (42WUB)
253
Anyone who votes for any democrat in the midterms hates America. There, I said it
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:54 PM (M+uMR)
And...?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:54 PM (M+uMR)
And...?
Posted by: People Who Vote Democrat at October 02, 2026 12:58 PM (mJVit)
254
The incredible part to all of this is that nothing has changed except the US has lost worldwide credibility, a ton of cash, increased cost of living, national demoralization, and a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
BS
The incredible part to all of this is that nothing has changed except the US has lost worldwide credibility, a ton of cash, increased cost of living, national demoralization, and a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
BS
Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2026 12:59 PM (+gK6I)
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253 There's also been a movement to refining to diesel rather than "normal" gas.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:56 PM (iFTx/)
Why have diesel prices spiked even more than normal gasoline prices??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (M+uMR)
Man behind the checkout counter: "Fluctuation"
Cantonese man paying for Diesel: "Well, Fluck you too"
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:56 PM (iFTx/)
Why have diesel prices spiked even more than normal gasoline prices??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (M+uMR)
Man behind the checkout counter: "Fluctuation"
Cantonese man paying for Diesel: "Well, Fluck you too"
Posted by: Christopher Cross at October 02, 2026 12:59 PM (l3cgK)
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There's also been a movement to refining to diesel rather than "normal" gas.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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Right now diesel brings more revenue to refiners than gas so they are maximizing diesel and it takes a bit to switch gears. That is why Trump threatened Euroland with a ban on diesel exports last week or so. They have fuel reserves there that they have not released until Trump threatened them, now Germany is releasing some.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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Right now diesel brings more revenue to refiners than gas so they are maximizing diesel and it takes a bit to switch gears. That is why Trump threatened Euroland with a ban on diesel exports last week or so. They have fuel reserves there that they have not released until Trump threatened them, now Germany is releasing some.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (E4rtv)
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251 The incredible part to all of this is that nothing has changed except the US has lost worldwide credibility, a ton of cash, increased cost of living, national demoralization, and a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (t19vo)
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It entertains me that the left believes this.
Trump is leading the nations of the world around by the nose whenever he sneezes at this point.
Central and South America are trending hard right while Europe is giving into everything he wants after some public displays of reticence.
Trump has retaught the world leaders that America is their daddy, and the rest of the world hates the lesson, but they're learning it.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (t19vo)
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It entertains me that the left believes this.
Trump is leading the nations of the world around by the nose whenever he sneezes at this point.
Central and South America are trending hard right while Europe is giving into everything he wants after some public displays of reticence.
Trump has retaught the world leaders that America is their daddy, and the rest of the world hates the lesson, but they're learning it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (42WUB)
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So, how did Candace get her kids? Turkey baster? Surrogacy? Or did she and the husband just say eff it, got really drunk one night, and did it the old-fashioned way?
Posted by: Bulg at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (77rzZ)
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196 It's still Ceylon, Burma, Turkey, and Constantinople!
Posted by: Bechuanaland, Too!
The far-right owners of the local Chinese restaurant still serve "Peking Duck."
Posted by: Bechuanaland, Too!
The far-right owners of the local Chinese restaurant still serve "Peking Duck."
Posted by: Auspex at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (Y8DZL)
260
Orange Julii are not dissimilar to Tang.
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (odBC9)
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256
The incredible part to all of this is that nothing has changed except the US has lost worldwide credibility, a ton of cash, increased cost of living, national demoralization, and a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
BS
Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2026 12:59 PM (+gK6I)
It's the frosting on their sh*t cake.
The incredible part to all of this is that nothing has changed except the US has lost worldwide credibility, a ton of cash, increased cost of living, national demoralization, and a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
BS
Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2026 12:59 PM (+gK6I)
It's the frosting on their sh*t cake.
Posted by: Christopher Cross at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (l3cgK)
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"Scholars will point to this stupid time period when discussing some consequential worldwide crisis sometime down the road - be it economic, political, diplomatic, or otherwise."
Scholars.
Scholars.
Posted by: davidt at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (Q+gd/)
263
Art of the fucking deal, everyone.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (t19vo)
I love how leftards get smart about things like cost and benefit, cause and effect, spending vs saving, etc, but only when it suits them.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (t19vo)
I love how leftards get smart about things like cost and benefit, cause and effect, spending vs saving, etc, but only when it suits them.
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 01:01 PM (mJVit)
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261 196 It's still Ceylon, Burma, Turkey, and Constantinople!
Posted by: Bechuanaland, Too!
The far-right owners of the local Chinese restaurant still serve "Peking Duck."
Posted by: Auspex at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (Y8DZL)
That duck peck no more.
Posted by: Bechuanaland, Too!
The far-right owners of the local Chinese restaurant still serve "Peking Duck."
Posted by: Auspex at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (Y8DZL)
That duck peck no more.
Posted by: Christopher Cross at October 02, 2026 01:01 PM (l3cgK)
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I wonder what the national average of gas/diesel is if you omit CA. And, maybe NY... as they skew the results somewhat.
It's $4 for gas and $6 for diesel here in KY. I'd presume that's "average?" And those prices are for my AO. I understand it's significantly lower elsewhere in the state, as well as higher in other places.
I guess the price of gas is... "subjective." It's a horrid measurement tool to use on the economy.
It's $4 for gas and $6 for diesel here in KY. I'd presume that's "average?" And those prices are for my AO. I understand it's significantly lower elsewhere in the state, as well as higher in other places.
I guess the price of gas is... "subjective." It's a horrid measurement tool to use on the economy.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 02, 2026 01:01 PM (RORbl)
266
She didn't out herself, people found her profile on a lesbian dating app. And there have been rumors for years, because her husband looks gayer than garrett in a musical.
Posted by: Ian S.
Would a midget lesbian be a carpet munchkin?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Safety scissor.
Posted by: Ian S.
Would a midget lesbian be a carpet munchkin?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Safety scissor.
Posted by: lefties have green handles at October 02, 2026 01:01 PM (VHUov)
267
Joe Buck is the worst. He knows less than a box of rubber bands.
Posted by: dantesed
_______
It's the talking for the sake of talking with these guys. Shit like, "This game is going to come down to plays like this!" How could you possibly know that? There may be pick-6 or fumble on the next possession that changes everything. Collinsworth is one of the worst with that stuff, but they all do it. Just meaningless pap.
Posted by: dantesed
_______
It's the talking for the sake of talking with these guys. Shit like, "This game is going to come down to plays like this!" How could you possibly know that? There may be pick-6 or fumble on the next possession that changes everything. Collinsworth is one of the worst with that stuff, but they all do it. Just meaningless pap.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 02, 2026 01:01 PM (JzUSu)
268
Why have diesel prices spiked even more than normal gasoline prices??"
There's less room in supply...
There's less room in supply...
Posted by: man at October 02, 2026 01:01 PM (nLfmy)
269
So the Portland Trailblazers hired a guy to be their play by play announcer… then just a few days later they fired him for tweets he made in 2013… when he was 15 years old.
We live in a clown world
We live in a clown world
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 01:02 PM (M+uMR)
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Speaking of Walmart and knockoffs...
Their Great Value frozen "seasoned potato wedges" are pretty close to the jojo potatoes made by Filipino deli clerks throughout the Pacific Northwest.
Handy for those late-night cravings.
Their Great Value frozen "seasoned potato wedges" are pretty close to the jojo potatoes made by Filipino deli clerks throughout the Pacific Northwest.
Handy for those late-night cravings.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 02, 2026 01:02 PM (qlLNh)
271
geez. Off singing sock
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 01:02 PM (l3cgK)
272
The far-right owners of the local Chinese restaurant still serve "Peking Duck."
Posted by: Auspex at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (Y8DZL)
Fa ra ra ra raaaa ra ra ra ra!
Posted by: Auspex at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (Y8DZL)
Fa ra ra ra raaaa ra ra ra ra!
Posted by: Owners of the local Chinese restaurant at October 02, 2026 01:02 PM (gLYp7)
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INNING OVER!!!!
Posted by: Joe Schmuck at October 02, 2026 01:03 PM (mJVit)
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Who controls the US refinery capacity choke-point?
Posted by: davidt
That would be the EPA, and state governors. California has closed two in the past year.
Posted by: davidt
That would be the EPA, and state governors. California has closed two in the past year.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 02, 2026 01:03 PM (0U5gm)
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274 The far-right owners of the local Chinese restaurant still serve "Peking Duck."
Posted by: Auspex at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (Y8DZL)
Fa ra ra ra raaaa ra ra ra ra!
Posted by: Owners of the local Chinese restaurant at October 02, 2026 01:02 PM (gLYp7)
Classic.
Posted by: Auspex at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (Y8DZL)
Fa ra ra ra raaaa ra ra ra ra!
Posted by: Owners of the local Chinese restaurant at October 02, 2026 01:02 PM (gLYp7)
Classic.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 01:03 PM (l3cgK)
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Good news: Milk was down 25 cents from last week.
Better news: DNC Chairman Ken Martin's picture is on the container.
Good news: Milk was down 25 cents from last week.
Better news: DNC Chairman Ken Martin's picture is on the container.
Posted by: Auspex at October 02, 2026 01:03 PM (Y8DZL)
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> 262 Orange Julii are not dissimilar to Tang.
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (odBC9)
No, it definitely wasn't the same as Tang, at least not when it existed here.
I think it had milk in it as well as orange juice.
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (odBC9)
No, it definitely wasn't the same as Tang, at least not when it existed here.
I think it had milk in it as well as orange juice.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 02, 2026 01:03 PM (qlLNh)
278
We live in a clown world
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 01:02 PM (M+uMR)
We live in the world that has been imposed upon us by the left.
It's only with Trump that we've started to impose our will onto them and they hate it.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 01:02 PM (M+uMR)
We live in the world that has been imposed upon us by the left.
It's only with Trump that we've started to impose our will onto them and they hate it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 02, 2026 01:03 PM (gLYp7)
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248 It is so incredible to have an American president that actually works for the benefit of Americans and American interests. If gas starts dropping (hopefully soon), he will have quite a crown of achievement going into the midterms.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM
Benefitting Americans?
That political party should probably have a pithy slogan to explain it to the independents.
Perhaps something like MAGA?
Democrats are too stupid to understand that simple idea!
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM
Benefitting Americans?
That political party should probably have a pithy slogan to explain it to the independents.
Perhaps something like MAGA?
Democrats are too stupid to understand that simple idea!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 02, 2026 01:04 PM (HlyYF)
280
Whatever happened to "Drill, baby, drill" anyway?
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 01:04 PM (wt1Vg)
281
Why have diesel prices spiked even more than normal gasoline prices??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Supply and demand. Refineries can tinker to a certain extent depending on the oil feedstocks (really probably AOP's area more than mine) to optimize revenue. We lost some big refineries to closures and haven't built new ones to replace closing ones so refining is the chokepoint now rather than oil pricing. And the three so far refinery closures in CA were mainly intentional from green freaks running CA that feel destroying a market will lead to prosperity using green tech. Those that cannot afford the new tech get screwed because their fuel has to be imported from abroad or from other sane states.
But that raises prices in the sane states as well. California should lose its status as a state and be administered as a territory for about twenty years before readmission for the damage it has intentionally inflicted on other states.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Supply and demand. Refineries can tinker to a certain extent depending on the oil feedstocks (really probably AOP's area more than mine) to optimize revenue. We lost some big refineries to closures and haven't built new ones to replace closing ones so refining is the chokepoint now rather than oil pricing. And the three so far refinery closures in CA were mainly intentional from green freaks running CA that feel destroying a market will lead to prosperity using green tech. Those that cannot afford the new tech get screwed because their fuel has to be imported from abroad or from other sane states.
But that raises prices in the sane states as well. California should lose its status as a state and be administered as a territory for about twenty years before readmission for the damage it has intentionally inflicted on other states.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 01:04 PM (E4rtv)
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274 The far-right owners of the local Chinese restaurant still serve "Peking Duck."
Posted by: Auspex at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (Y8DZL)
Fa ra ra ra raaaa ra ra ra ra!
Posted by: Owners of the local Chinese restaurant at October 02, 2026 01:02 PM (gLYp7)
Deck the Hors with bars of horry...
Posted by: Auspex at October 02, 2026 01:00 PM (Y8DZL)
Fa ra ra ra raaaa ra ra ra ra!
Posted by: Owners of the local Chinese restaurant at October 02, 2026 01:02 PM (gLYp7)
Deck the Hors with bars of horry...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 01:04 PM (l3cgK)
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269 Joe Buck is the worst. He knows less than a box of rubber bands.
Posted by: dantesed
_______
It's the talking for the sake of talking with these guys. Shit like, "This game is going to come down to plays like this!" How could you possibly know that? There may be pick-6 or fumble on the next possession that changes everything. Collinsworth is one of the worst with that stuff, but they all do it. Just meaningless pap.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 02, 2026 01:01 PM (JzUSu)
They should hire Key and Peele. Make it the sports equivalent of Mystery Science Theater 3000.
Posted by: dantesed
_______
It's the talking for the sake of talking with these guys. Shit like, "This game is going to come down to plays like this!" How could you possibly know that? There may be pick-6 or fumble on the next possession that changes everything. Collinsworth is one of the worst with that stuff, but they all do it. Just meaningless pap.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 02, 2026 01:01 PM (JzUSu)
They should hire Key and Peele. Make it the sports equivalent of Mystery Science Theater 3000.
Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM (BHTo4)
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"And oil prices should start falling quickly."
_________
And when they don't, what's the excuse going to be?
_________
And when they don't, what's the excuse going to be?
Posted by: Give the Retarded Kid Some Pie at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM (mJXSH)
285
I'm on the wagon, but off my rocker.
Posted by: Central State Hospital, Ward "C" at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM (Fn+3X)
286
Their Great Value frozen "seasoned potato wedges" are pretty close to the jojo potatoes made by Filipino deli clerks throughout the Pacific Northwest.
Handy for those late-night cravings.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 02, 2026 01:02 PM (qlLNh)
Whenever I visit the Town Pump gas station in Shelby, MT, I like to get chicken and wedges from the food counter there.
Handy for those late-night cravings.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 02, 2026 01:02 PM (qlLNh)
Whenever I visit the Town Pump gas station in Shelby, MT, I like to get chicken and wedges from the food counter there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM (n2qDf)
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282 Whatever happened to "Drill, baby, drill" anyway?
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 01:04 PM (wt1Vg)
That Cornell girl certainly was.
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 01:04 PM (wt1Vg)
That Cornell girl certainly was.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM (l3cgK)
288
They should hire Key and Peele. Make it the sports equivalent of Mystery Science Theater 3000.
Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM (BHTo4)
Jaquarius Jaquavious Jaquanius. Miami University.
Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM (BHTo4)
Jaquarius Jaquavious Jaquanius. Miami University.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 02, 2026 01:06 PM (gLYp7)
289
It is so incredible to have an American president that actually works for the benefit of Americans and American interests. If gas starts dropping (hopefully soon), he will have quite a crown of achievement going into the midterms.
Posted by: Lady in Black
$3.83 in TR. Down 10 cents since yesterday.
Posted by: Lady in Black
$3.83 in TR. Down 10 cents since yesterday.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 02, 2026 01:06 PM (bIH8o)
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 01:06 PM (mJVit)
291
Would a midget lesbian be a carpet munchkin?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Safety scissor.
Posted by: lefties have green handles at October 02, 2026 01:01 PM (VHUov)
Calf dyke.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Safety scissor.
Posted by: lefties have green handles at October 02, 2026 01:01 PM (VHUov)
Calf dyke.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 02, 2026 01:06 PM (qlLNh)
292
"And oil prices should start falling quickly."
_________
And when they don't, what's the excuse going to be?
Posted by: Give the Retarded Kid Some Pie at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM
You're joking, right? It's always Joos.
_________
And when they don't, what's the excuse going to be?
Posted by: Give the Retarded Kid Some Pie at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM
You're joking, right? It's always Joos.
Posted by: toby928(c) at October 02, 2026 01:06 PM (4NO2D)
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282 Whatever happened to "Drill, baby, drill" anyway?
Posted by: Jetto
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We are, oil and gas production in the US is soaring but we are not building refineries because it takes a long time to build, refiners are not going to invest unless they can be assured of opening and being able to profit from the refinery, and temporary surges in demand don't warrant a risky long term investment in an uncertain regulatory era like if the Dems get back in power.
Posted by: Jetto
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We are, oil and gas production in the US is soaring but we are not building refineries because it takes a long time to build, refiners are not going to invest unless they can be assured of opening and being able to profit from the refinery, and temporary surges in demand don't warrant a risky long term investment in an uncertain regulatory era like if the Dems get back in power.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 01:06 PM (E4rtv)
294
I don't watch TV anymore, but whenever I watched an nfl game it was always with the sound and closed captioning off.
Posted by: davidt at October 02, 2026 01:07 PM (Q+gd/)
295
The incredible part to all of this is that nothing has changed except the US has lost worldwide credibility, a ton of cash, increased cost of living, national demoralization, and a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
BS
Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2026 12:59 PM (+gK6I)
***
BS x 2!!!
Yeah...yeah...I know. No Maths, but I think the Horde can handle this.
BS
Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2026 12:59 PM (+gK6I)
***
BS x 2!!!
Yeah...yeah...I know. No Maths, but I think the Horde can handle this.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 02, 2026 01:07 PM (2WIwB)
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That Cornell girl certainly was.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM (l3cgK)
Now we know she was snorting lines off of dudes dongs
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM (l3cgK)
Now we know she was snorting lines off of dudes dongs
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 02, 2026 01:07 PM (gLYp7)
297
Whenever I visit the Town Pump gas station in Shelby, MT, I like to get chicken and wedges from the food counter there.
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There's a Kwik-E-Mart up the street from me that used to sell amazing chicken and wedges. Sadly, no longer...
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There's a Kwik-E-Mart up the street from me that used to sell amazing chicken and wedges. Sadly, no longer...
Posted by: Jetto at October 02, 2026 01:07 PM (wt1Vg)
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> Whenever I visit the Town Pump gas station in Shelby, MT, I like to get chicken and wedges from the food counter there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM (n2qDf)
Yeah, that's a go-to meal for me as well.
I can make good fried chicken at home, but until now duplicating the potatoes has not been successful.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM (n2qDf)
Yeah, that's a go-to meal for me as well.
I can make good fried chicken at home, but until now duplicating the potatoes has not been successful.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 02, 2026 01:07 PM (qlLNh)
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247 I'm a little skeptical of "Iran is going to fall" talk. But I'm happy to keep punishing it and see what shakes out.
Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (BHTo4)
_________________________
Their biggest weakness is corruption and putting all their eggs in one basket. There's no fallback because of a severe lack of self-sufficiency. Their overall irrigations systems have not been maintained. As a result, even before hostilities started, their agriculture capability was crumbling. They didn't maintain their desalination projects due to local placed "leaders" circumventing the process to grow personal wealth. It's like that in just about every industry field and local "municipality". Tehran assigns representatives locally, who promptly serve their self-interests at the cost of the residents.
Hyperinflation in Iran currently stands at 90%. One US dollar now equates to 2.5 Million Rials (not a typo).
Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (BHTo4)
_________________________
Their biggest weakness is corruption and putting all their eggs in one basket. There's no fallback because of a severe lack of self-sufficiency. Their overall irrigations systems have not been maintained. As a result, even before hostilities started, their agriculture capability was crumbling. They didn't maintain their desalination projects due to local placed "leaders" circumventing the process to grow personal wealth. It's like that in just about every industry field and local "municipality". Tehran assigns representatives locally, who promptly serve their self-interests at the cost of the residents.
Hyperinflation in Iran currently stands at 90%. One US dollar now equates to 2.5 Million Rials (not a typo).
Posted by: Orson at October 02, 2026 01:07 PM (dIske)
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300
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 01:07 PM (odBC9)
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263 256
The incredible part to all of this is that nothing has changed except the US has lost worldwide credibility, a ton of cash, increased cost of living, national demoralization, and a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
All the hard work of Democrats for South Vietnam and Afghanistan lost!
The incredible part to all of this is that nothing has changed except the US has lost worldwide credibility, a ton of cash, increased cost of living, national demoralization, and a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
All the hard work of Democrats for South Vietnam and Afghanistan lost!
Posted by: Auspex at October 02, 2026 01:08 PM (Y8DZL)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 02, 2026 01:08 PM (0wzNL)
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a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
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What does this even mean?
Why do all these posts sound like campaign messages?
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What does this even mean?
Why do all these posts sound like campaign messages?
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 01:09 PM (mJVit)
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There's also been a movement to refining to diesel rather than "normal" gas.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:56 PM (iFTx/)
Why have diesel prices spiked even more than normal gasoline prices??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (M+uMR)
_______
I think mostly because diesel is harder and more expensive to refine, making it more susceptible to price fluctuations and global unrest (Russia refined a lot of diesel).
Plus, I think the explosion of app-based delivery (Amazon, etc) put a lot more diesel vehicles on the road.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 12:56 PM (iFTx/)
Why have diesel prices spiked even more than normal gasoline prices??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (M+uMR)
_______
I think mostly because diesel is harder and more expensive to refine, making it more susceptible to price fluctuations and global unrest (Russia refined a lot of diesel).
Plus, I think the explosion of app-based delivery (Amazon, etc) put a lot more diesel vehicles on the road.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 02, 2026 01:10 PM (iFTx/)
305
NC numbers on early voting (real early voting is in person, this is just mail in which is fairly small for the state, but still):
https://x.com/earlyvotedata/status/
2106009782620762326/photo/3
Better request and return rates for the GOP comparatively than 2022 (when Budd won by 3) and worse than 2024 (when Trump won by 3).
So, blue wave, amiright?
https://x.com/earlyvotedata/status/
2106009782620762326/photo/3
Better request and return rates for the GOP comparatively than 2022 (when Budd won by 3) and worse than 2024 (when Trump won by 3).
So, blue wave, amiright?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 01:10 PM (42WUB)
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I want him to be Treasury Secretary for 50 years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I want Bessent as Treasury and Hegseth as DoW for as long as they're willing. I notice a lot of effort towards building strong foundations for the future, and I want them to be able to flush out all the rats and seal the cracks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I want Bessent as Treasury and Hegseth as DoW for as long as they're willing. I notice a lot of effort towards building strong foundations for the future, and I want them to be able to flush out all the rats and seal the cracks.
Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at October 02, 2026 01:10 PM (aJQbY)
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Hyperinflation in Iran currently stands at 90%. One US dollar now equates to 2.5 Million Rials (not a typo).
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Pfft. Amateur hour.
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Pfft. Amateur hour.
Posted by: Zombie Huge Chavez at October 02, 2026 01:10 PM (wt1Vg)
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304 Hey TJM,
Watched your movie short in the sidebar.
Made me think of David Lynch. I enjoyed it.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 02, 2026 01:08 PM (0wzNL)
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Thank you!
The Lynch comparison is generous and welcomed.
(like and subscribe)
Watched your movie short in the sidebar.
Made me think of David Lynch. I enjoyed it.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 02, 2026 01:08 PM (0wzNL)
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Thank you!
The Lynch comparison is generous and welcomed.
(like and subscribe)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 01:10 PM (42WUB)
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I'm old enough to remember when diesel was cheaper than gasoline.
Posted by: toby928(c) at October 02, 2026 01:10 PM (4NO2D)
310
Nood Supremes.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 02, 2026 01:10 PM (gLYp7)
311
I guess the price of gas is... "subjective." It's a horrid measurement tool to use on the economy.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Correct term like wheat, rice, and other commodities is volatile. Affected by world markets and processing/shipping capacity as well as supply and demand of the base feedstock.
Another example is beef production--like refineries, it takes awhile for new beef to enter the market and producers won't do risk expansion unless they feel assured of profit. The current chokehold on beef pricing is the oligopolistic and price fixing big 4 beef meatpackers who also like to hire cheap illegals and visa applicants to pad out their profits.
The world is a lot more complicated than simple supply and demand--it ultimately has it say but a whole host of intermediaries are trying to get a chunk of cash out of market swings up and down as well. Can't stop the signal but it sure can delay it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
=========
Correct term like wheat, rice, and other commodities is volatile. Affected by world markets and processing/shipping capacity as well as supply and demand of the base feedstock.
Another example is beef production--like refineries, it takes awhile for new beef to enter the market and producers won't do risk expansion unless they feel assured of profit. The current chokehold on beef pricing is the oligopolistic and price fixing big 4 beef meatpackers who also like to hire cheap illegals and visa applicants to pad out their profits.
The world is a lot more complicated than simple supply and demand--it ultimately has it say but a whole host of intermediaries are trying to get a chunk of cash out of market swings up and down as well. Can't stop the signal but it sure can delay it.
Posted by: whig at October 02, 2026 01:11 PM (E4rtv)
312
Nood. SCOTUS.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 02, 2026 01:11 PM (ExV1e)
313
It's kind of amazing how many women on social media are 100% sure that the Cornell town bike was "raped".
Those who have actually *read the police report, given in her own motherfucking words* know that a) she consented to EVERY act that was performed and b) though intoxicated, she was fully aware of what was going on at all times.
Given that of the first threesome one guy was too drunk to perform and passed out, while the other guy was so drunk he was dry-heaving, perhaps SHE committed rape.
Those who have actually *read the police report, given in her own motherfucking words* know that a) she consented to EVERY act that was performed and b) though intoxicated, she was fully aware of what was going on at all times.
Given that of the first threesome one guy was too drunk to perform and passed out, while the other guy was so drunk he was dry-heaving, perhaps SHE committed rape.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 02, 2026 01:11 PM (qlLNh)
314
As improbable as it may seem, JJ Watt has managed to be even worse than Tony Romo. Man do I miss the good old days of Pat Summeral and John Madden, Dick Enberg and Merlin Olsen. There is not one contemporary announcing team that I enjoy…. Not even a Keith Jackson for college ball. Whoa Nellie!
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Herbstreit and Al Michaels are okay.
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Herbstreit and Al Michaels are okay.
Posted by: Amazon didn't get annoying FOX people at October 02, 2026 01:11 PM (anL5R)
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308 I want him to be Treasury Secretary for 50 years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I want Bessent as Treasury and Hegseth as DoW for as long as they're willing. I notice a lot of effort towards building strong foundations for the future, and I want them to be able to flush out all the rats and seal the cracks.
Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at October 02, 2026 01:10 PM (aJQbY)
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Every hero of the administration on the immigration front is unsung (the right has forgotten the issue until someone gets shot and then it's all "we're not doing immigration anymore" which is false), but Bessent is the most unsung of the unsung heroes on that front.
Writing regulations to cut illegals off from the American financial system. Spearheading the banking side of investigations into fraud related to immigrants.
He's a fucking beast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I want Bessent as Treasury and Hegseth as DoW for as long as they're willing. I notice a lot of effort towards building strong foundations for the future, and I want them to be able to flush out all the rats and seal the cracks.
Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at October 02, 2026 01:10 PM (aJQbY)
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Every hero of the administration on the immigration front is unsung (the right has forgotten the issue until someone gets shot and then it's all "we're not doing immigration anymore" which is false), but Bessent is the most unsung of the unsung heroes on that front.
Writing regulations to cut illegals off from the American financial system. Spearheading the banking side of investigations into fraud related to immigrants.
He's a fucking beast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at October 02, 2026 01:12 PM (42WUB)
Posted by: ShainS at October 02, 2026 01:13 PM (94QNV)
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305 251 a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
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What does this even mean?
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 01:09 PM (mJVit)
251 The incredible part to all of this is that nothing has changed except the US has
1) lost worldwide credibility,
2) [lost] a ton of cash,
3) increased cost of living,
4) [increased] national demoralization, and
5) a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (t19vo)
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What does this even mean?
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 01:09 PM (mJVit)
251 The incredible part to all of this is that nothing has changed except the US has
1) lost worldwide credibility,
2) [lost] a ton of cash,
3) increased cost of living,
4) [increased] national demoralization, and
5) a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 02, 2026 12:57 PM (t19vo)
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 01:15 PM (odBC9)
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And the three so far refinery closures in CA were mainly intentional from green freaks running CA that feel destroying a market will lead to prosperity using green tech.
I've come around to the idea that they know damn well the green stuff doesn't work and it'll make oil products scarce and expensive. And that's fine, because neo-feudalism assumes only the elites will have nice things.
I've come around to the idea that they know damn well the green stuff doesn't work and it'll make oil products scarce and expensive. And that's fine, because neo-feudalism assumes only the elites will have nice things.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2026 01:15 PM (sabhw)
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312 Nood Supremes.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 02, 2026 01:10 PM (gLYp7)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at October 02, 2026 01:10 PM (gLYp7)
Posted by: m at October 02, 2026 01:16 PM (odBC9)
Posted by: M. Gaga at October 02, 2026 01:19 PM (OGVMi)
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/off sock
Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at October 02, 2026 01:21 PM (r7+Q7)
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Eric the Blade. Gasoline requires more refining than diesel. Diesel costs more cuz of road taxes.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 02, 2026 01:42 PM (KGj36)
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We ought to sublet the Iranian tankers and let them carry oil from other ports in the world to other destinations and keep them far away from the thought they might sneak in and supply Iran. We can bank what money they make and return it to a successor government later if they play ball.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 02, 2026 01:55 PM (uhVAy)
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Eric the Blade. Gasoline requires more refining than diesel. Diesel costs more cuz of road taxes.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 02, 2026 01:42 PM (KGj36)
Gasoline also costs more because of road taxes. Note that none of the states run by Dems complaining about gas prices thinks that they could cut part of the tax income they get from that.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 02, 2026 01:42 PM (KGj36)
Gasoline also costs more because of road taxes. Note that none of the states run by Dems complaining about gas prices thinks that they could cut part of the tax income they get from that.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 02, 2026 01:57 PM (uhVAy)
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And the three so far refinery closures in CA were mainly intentional from green freaks running CA that feel destroying a market will lead to prosperity using green tech.
I've come around to the idea that they know damn well the green stuff doesn't work and it'll make oil products scarce and expensive. And that's fine, because neo-feudalism assumes only the elites will have nice things.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2026 01:15 PM (sabhw)
Green is a scam. No big company would avoid making billions just because it is green and pure.
I've come around to the idea that they know damn well the green stuff doesn't work and it'll make oil products scarce and expensive. And that's fine, because neo-feudalism assumes only the elites will have nice things.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 02, 2026 01:15 PM (sabhw)
Green is a scam. No big company would avoid making billions just because it is green and pure.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 02, 2026 01:58 PM (uhVAy)
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a renewed hatred and distrust from every nation in the Middle East.
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What does this even mean?
Why do all these posts sound like campaign messages?
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 01:09 PM (mJVit)
The Mideast loves us as long as we have our foot on Iran's neck. Once we let them up, well, then they have to reassess.
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What does this even mean?
Why do all these posts sound like campaign messages?
Posted by: ... at October 02, 2026 01:09 PM (mJVit)
The Mideast loves us as long as we have our foot on Iran's neck. Once we let them up, well, then they have to reassess.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 02, 2026 02:00 PM (uhVAy)
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It's the talking for the sake of talking with these guys. Shit like, "This game is going to come down to plays like this!" How could you possibly know that? There may be pick-6 or fumble on the next possession that changes everything. Collinsworth is one of the worst with that stuff, but they all do it. Just meaningless pap.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 02, 2026 01:01 PM (JzUSu)
They should hire Key and Peele. Make it the sports equivalent of Mystery Science Theater 3000.
Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM (BHTo4)
they have to have it come down to the wire and they will tilt the game to make it happen for the national audience.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 02, 2026 01:01 PM (JzUSu)
They should hire Key and Peele. Make it the sports equivalent of Mystery Science Theater 3000.
Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at October 02, 2026 01:05 PM (BHTo4)
they have to have it come down to the wire and they will tilt the game to make it happen for the national audience.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 02, 2026 02:04 PM (uhVAy)
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Now, I hope China isn't getting any, but I know better...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:04 PM (l3cgK)
China now gets oil from us. They are bending as appropriate.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 02, 2026 12:04 PM (l3cgK)
China now gets oil from us. They are bending as appropriate.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 02, 2026 02:05 PM (uhVAy)
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