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I Voted for This: Trump Administration Set to Remove 760,000 Fraudulent Enrollees in ObamaCare

All medical fraud requires a "patient" whose name can be used to bill the government for fake services rendered.

Cleaning up the rolls of fake enrollees who are easily used as "Straw Patients" will save billions more in addition to the $2.2 billion which will be saved directly by ending these fraudulent accounts.

And deporting the illegal aliens signed up for the fraudulent Obamacare accounts will save even more money.

Vice President JD Vance and other Trump administration officials said Tuesday they plan to remove 760,000 Affordable Care Act enrollees from public healthcare exchanges, alleging that the individuals were fraudulently enrolled in the program, or simply do not exist.

Vance said the discovery and canceled subsidy payments for hundreds of thousands of people from the exchanges, part of an administration-wide crackdown on fraud, would result in $2.2 billion in cost savings.

"We're actually making sure that the people receiving Obamacare subsidies are actually entitled to receive them," said Vance, who leads a government task force to eliminate fraud. He was flanked by Dr. Mehmet Oz, the administrator for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, or CMS, and other administration officials.

Vance said the cancellation of approximately 315,000 enrollments covering 760,000 people was done in part because the government was not checking whether people enrolled were eligible. Vance said another 419,000 enrollments will get additional verification to make sure they are eligible for the benefit.

The Trump administration also announced a six-month suspension on new agents or brokers who sign up enrollees for healthcare coverage, who officials say commit a disproportionate amount of the fraud they uncovered.

...

Premiums doubled or tripled for many enrollees, prompting millions to downgrade their plans or exit the program entirely after the Republican-led Congress allowed the subsidies to expire this year.

The Government Accountability Office suggests fraud risks in the advance premium tax credit do exist - however it's unclear at what scale. The GAO conducted covert testing using fictitious ACA applicants enrolled in 2024 and 2025. A report released in December showed that the federal marketplace approved subsidized coverage for almost all of the GAO's 24 fake enrollees.

Democrats immediately demanded Trump reinstate the fraudulent accounts -- proving that they're all about the fraud as a means of paying off their (often illegal) voters and then later receiving kickbacks from them.


Democratic lawmakers criticized the move to remove enrollees from ACA coverage.

Richard E. Neal, a Massachusetts Democrat and ranking member of the Ways and Means Committee, said "Republicans have already created the worst healthcare crisis ever, but every decision by the Trump Administration is designed to keep making it worse."

"As if making coverage harder to access through skyrocketing premiums and more red tape wasn't painful enough, they're doubling down to take it away entirely," Neal said.

From fraudulent enrollees, who are illegal aliens, who you claim aren't eligible for Obamacare and aren't on it.


Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:34 PM




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1 Me too

Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 23, 2026 04:36 PM (08OqX)

2 Biggest health care bills I've ever gotten came from the IRS.

So this notion that we should just inflate the currency and expand the debt to pay for healthcare for illegals is not just wrong, not just morally wrong, but f*cking offensive.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2026 04:37 PM (sKqQm)

3 Kamala would have done this.

We must punish the GOP for not doing enough by not voting for more conservative members of the Senate to replace people like Mitch, Cassidy, Cornyn, Ernst, and Tillis, all of whom are retiring.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 04:37 PM (38W+X)

4 Called em..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 23, 2026 04:38 PM (08OqX)

5 MSNow - 760,000 people
Me - it's a good start

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 23, 2026 04:38 PM (Sco7b)

6 You know, you don't have to remove anyone from Obamacare if you repeal it. Remember all that talk, GOP? If these simps think they're gonna bring up Obamacare to me in any context, with any details, and get me to clap, they're bat guano crazy.

Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at September 23, 2026 04:38 PM (sAnBa)

7 Could we please just deport all these people, or their home countries won't take them?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2026 04:39 PM (JrHfD)

8 It is our shame that we lavish assistance and payments to non-citizens, while paying a pittance to those who subsist on SS.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 23, 2026 04:39 PM (3Ope8)

9 Remember Biden doubled the budget and all that money was stolen. All of it.

Much was giving money to illegals and getting kickbacks...just like this...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2026 04:40 PM (sKqQm)

10 one children rule: no matter how much fraud there is it's worth it so one sick child can still get the treatment he needs. like another covid shot

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 23, 2026 04:41 PM (CWTWj)

11 I'm still amazed how a political debate about how much welfare we should give to American citizens as now morphed into "we must give welfare to every non-American citizen in the world"

Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2026 04:41 PM (sKqQm)

12 blue states are sucking money out of the feds this way

PA is huge here!

they would be in deep shit without the medicare and medicaid fraud!

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 23, 2026 04:41 PM (j+aD2)

13 It really is insane the amount of fraud that is encouraged by our government.

Posted by: Leupold at September 23, 2026 04:41 PM (FAUyE)

14 one children rule: no matter how much fraud there is it's worth it so one sick child can still get the treatment he needs. like another covid shot

Or an exercise band!

Posted by: Some Clancy Girl at September 23, 2026 04:41 PM (sKqQm)

15 To just drop that many, i bet there's easily double or triple that but they just needed to first only eliminate the most obvious, low hanging fruit.

Posted by: Leupold at September 23, 2026 04:42 PM (FAUyE)

16 6 You know, you don't have to remove anyone from Obamacare if you repeal it. Remember all that talk, GOP? If these simps think they're gonna bring up Obamacare to me in any context, with any details, and get me to clap, they're bat guano crazy.

Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at September 23, 2026 04:38 PM (sAnBa)

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The ACA got too popular during COVID.

It went from negative approval to +35 approval. Largely because of the temporary subsidies that the OBBB failed to extend.

Remember when the GOP was going to lose the midterms because the ACA was getting too expensive? It was like 12 narratives about the GOP losing the midterms ago, before Goode and Pretti were murdered and all immigration enforcement stopped.

Trump made the move to make the ACA unpopular again by ending the artificial price tags that people were seeing that made it seem so cheap. The political will may or may not develop after that to repeal it. We'll see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 04:42 PM (38W+X)

17 > 50,000 THOUSAND

Wait, is that 50 million, or a redundant thousand?

Posted by: bonhomme at September 23, 2026 04:42 PM (mkw2N)

18 Amazing that no past administrations ever even mentioned the word fraud.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2026 04:42 PM (UdrMW)

19 Who are those people on stage with the VP?

Posted by: Eromero at September 23, 2026 04:42 PM (LHPAg)

20 Trump Administration Set to Remove 760,000 Fraudulent Enrollees in ObamaCare.

That number is too low.

Posted by: dantesed at September 23, 2026 04:43 PM (Oy/m2)

21 anyway it's in the penumbra of animation. some judge said so

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 23, 2026 04:43 PM (CWTWj)

22 one children rule: no matter how much fraud there is it's worth it so one sick child can still get the treatment he needs. like another covid shot
Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 23, 2026 04:41 PM (CWTWj)
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Hot irons are a lot cheaper. Just sayin'.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 23, 2026 04:44 PM (FZ29D)

23 Could we please just deport all these people, or their home countries won't take them?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke



What are those countries going to do, shoot down our aircraft? Just airdrop the illegals back home. I might even throw in a parachute.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 23, 2026 04:44 PM (0U5gm)

24 The problem with Obamacare is too many in the middle class now get the subsidies.



We had a window to get rid of it several times as it was previously, deeply unppopular.

Posted by: Leupold at September 23, 2026 04:44 PM (FAUyE)

25 It really is insane the amount of fraud that is encouraged by our government.

I'd be shocked if it wasn't being rerouted to some kickback organization. I'd bet the economy of several countries would collapse if US government fraud were meaningfully reduced.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 23, 2026 04:44 PM (3Ope8)

26 Money saved. Where will that money go?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 23, 2026 04:44 PM (5C90x)

27 24 The problem with Obamacare is too many in the middle class now get the subsidies.



We had a window to get rid of it several times as it was previously, deeply unppopular.

Posted by: Leupold at September 23, 2026 04:44 PM (FAUyE)

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We did end the temporary COVID subsidies by not extending them.

The GOP was going to lose the midterms because of it, and then everyone just forgot about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 04:45 PM (38W+X)

28
Got friends that'd rather see Rubio, but Vance is my U.S. Grant.

Posted by: Auspex at September 23, 2026 04:45 PM (Y8DZL)

29 This is what I voted for too!
And yet people want to put the Democrats back in power.
It shouldn't make sense, but when the
MSM continues to hide the good that the Republicans do, it does.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 23, 2026 04:45 PM (NpAcC)

30 >>Money saved. Where will that money go?

Paying down the debt would be nice.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 23, 2026 04:45 PM (viF8m)

31 Shouldn’t they have to PROVE fraud before fucking with people’s lives?

Their plan is to break things first, and let the courts take so long catch up that it's too late to fix it. In this case, they hope enough people die that it's a moot point by the time the courts step in.

These fucking morons do understand that a good portion of these people are MAGA, right?

Be assured they likely compared the lists against voter rolls so only Dem voters are affected. Leave the majority of the MAGA on there since they've essentially shutdown the majority of rural hospitals - where most MAGA live - they won't use the ACA either, then.

The worst part is they are going after ppl that are on ACA but never had had to use their services. Those are the people you want on ACA, they are low cost and have the ACA as insurance *if* they need it (exactly how insurance is supposed to work)

What does it mean to save the country $2billion when they spend so much on the endless Iran war? Their priorities are fucking messed up.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 23, 2026 04:46 PM (UirZC)

32
>>six-month suspension on new agents or brokers who sign up enrollees for healthcare coverage

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That's the sort of thing that's needed. Joe Thompson, the fed who prosecuted the Feeding Our Future fraud in Minnesota, said the fraud is too big to prosecute. We need to tear down these programs. And that will require a miracle, or a couple of generations of MAGA leadership. Trump/Vance needs to start softening the ground now.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 23, 2026 04:46 PM (mmrXZ)

33 I've noticed a growing trend of people finding how that health care is cheaper if you don't have insurance.

And...this should be obvious. See you as a person with insurance have to make up for all the people with no money/no insurance.

Why its almost like the insurance model for routine healthcare is a terrible, terrible idea...

Posted by: Some Clancy Girl at September 23, 2026 04:46 PM (sKqQm)

34 When you're stuck on the plantation the company store is where you go.

Posted by: Eromero at September 23, 2026 04:46 PM (LHPAg)

35 I Voted for This: Trump Administration Set to Remove 760,000 Fraudulent Enrollees in ObamaCare


That's a start.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 23, 2026 04:46 PM (I43vL)

36 Damn that Bad Orange Man!

He kicked our entire viwership of the welfare!

"MSNow - 760,000 people"

Posted by: ms Now at September 23, 2026 04:46 PM (rje/a)

37 The problem with Obamacare is too many in the middle class now get the subsidies.

Nope. That was the problem decades ago. When it pissed you off when an English Speaker paid for groceries with Food Stamps.

The problem now, obviously, is that the vast majority of money paid in social welfare doesn't go to American Citizens.

That problem must be fixed before we even worry about the earlier problem.

Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 04:46 PM (1/wqL)

38 26 Money saved. Where will that money go?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 23, 2026 04:44 PM (5C90x)

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Just not spent.

The last three quarters of GDP have seen government spending go down about 2% over that time (-5.6% Q4, +4.4% Q1, -1% Q2).

All while overall GDP has increased.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 04:47 PM (38W+X)

39 It really is insane the amount of fraud that is encouraged by our government.

I'd be shocked if it wasn't being rerouted to some kickback organization. I'd bet the economy of several countries would collapse if US government fraud were meaningfully reduced.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 23, 2026 04:44 PM (3Ope

Of course it is, many of them, hundreds of them and all of them give kickbacks to the officials in charge.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 04:47 PM (uhVAy)

40 Big, beautiful monuments

Posted by: Joe Mama at September 23, 2026 04:47 PM (TezPK)

41 Why its almost like the insurance model for routine healthcare is a terrible, terrible idea...

Posted by: Some Clancy Girl at September 23, 2026 04:46 PM (sKqQm)


Thank ... Reagan.

EMTALA. You are welcome. Nothing is free.

Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 04:47 PM (1/wqL)

42 Joe Thompson, the fed who prosecuted the Feeding Our Future fraud in Minnesota, said the fraud is too big to prosecute.

Fuck that kind of thinking. Sounds like job security to me. Do your job or get out of the way.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 23, 2026 04:48 PM (3Ope8)

43 Democratic lawmakers criticized the move to remove enrollees from ACA coverage.

Richard E. Neal, a Massachusetts Democrat and ranking member of the Ways and Means Committee, said "Republicans have already created the worst healthcare crisis ever, but every decision by the Trump Administration is designed to keep making it worse."


Sorry but democrats own obamacare lock, stock and barrel. It passed without a single republican vote.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 23, 2026 04:48 PM (I43vL)

44 Completely OT, but interesting:

@OANN
U.S. Attorney for the District of Utah Melissa Holyoak says a federal grand jury indicted a former postal worker accused of discarding more than 300 mail-in ballots ahead of Utah’s June 2026 primary.

Holyoak says the investigation began after voters reported not receiving their ballots and county officials identified unusually low voter participation in the area.

https://x.com/OANN/status/
2102498566363341095

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 04:48 PM (38W+X)

45 Last time I went to the ER it was all non-english speakers.

Do I know they were illegals? No...but english fluency is pretty common among actual citizens.

On the plus side I speak a little Spanish so I got to learn the correct words for pretty much every drug you can OD on...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2026 04:48 PM (sKqQm)

46
We did end the temporary COVID subsidies by not extending them.

The GOP was going to lose the midterms because of it, and then everyone just forgot about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

==

I dont think we've yet to have a midterm election with the Covid subsidies ending.

They officially ended Jan of this year

But the reality is, even without Covid subsidies, it's basically "free" healthcare if you make like under $70k a year.

Posted by: Leupold at September 23, 2026 04:49 PM (FAUyE)

47 760,000. CNN wishes they could get numbers like that.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 23, 2026 04:49 PM (24ti1)

48 Joe Thompson, the fed who prosecuted the Feeding Our Future fraud in Minnesota, said the fraud is too big to prosecute.

Bullshit. The same as those that scream "Conspiracy Theory".

He, and many like him, just can't stand the consequences. As in major reform. Temporary chaos. On and on.

Pretty typical.

Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 04:49 PM (1/wqL)

49 We will know that the enrolments were fraudulent by the silence from all those kicked off the lists. If there were genuine cases who are removed the media would be presented front and center. The silence is proof.

Posted by: Decaf at September 23, 2026 04:50 PM (ZNpJk)

50 West Bank genocide!

Son of Israel's ambassador to US seriously injured in ramming attack in the occupied West Bank

The son of Israel’s ambassador to the United States was gravely injured in a ramming attack in the occupied West Bank on Wednesday.

Neria Leiter, a reservist in Israel’s military, “needs a miracle,” Ambassador Yechiel Leiter said in a social media post. Leiter’s older son, Moshe Yedidya Leiter, who also served in Israel’s military, was killed in Gaza just days after the Hamas-led Oct. 7, 2023 attack, which triggered the war in Gaza.

According to the military and law enforcement, a Palestinian man rammed his car into a security checkpoint Wednesday afternoon near the settlement of Beit Horon, seriously wounding the officer.

Israeli forces at the scene then “opened fire at the terrorist as he attempted to flee” and killed him. More military forces were deployed in the area in the aftermath.

https://tinyurl.com/36xfux4y

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I don't know why nobody likes them. Well, nobody but the media and the left (but I repeat myself).

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at September 23, 2026 04:50 PM (ndZc7)

51 46
I dont think we've yet to have a midterm election with the Covid subsidies ending.

They officially ended Jan of this year

But the reality is, even without Covid subsidies, it's basically "free" healthcare if you make like under $70k a year.

Posted by: Leupold at September 23, 2026 04:49 PM (FAUyE)

========

There are so many reasons the GOP is losing the midterms, that the GOP should REALLY lose the midterms.

If the Democrats barely take the House and fail to take the Senate, that'd be totally weird considering all the reason the GOP had to lose the midterms.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 04:50 PM (38W+X)

52 Who gets money if the enrollee is fake? Enrollees don't get cash, do they? The insurance company, maybe? Trying to figure out the cash flow diagram on this one.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 23, 2026 04:50 PM (Dv3i1)

53 Sorry but democrats own obamacare lock, stock and barrel. It passed without a single republican vote.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 23, 2026 04:48 PM (I43vL)
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Let's not get hasty and start asking for Democrats to take responsibility or accountability for literally anything here, bro.

Posted by: ballistic at September 23, 2026 04:51 PM (oqH4h)

54 EMTALA. You are welcome. Nothing is free.
Posted by: Greetings and Salutations

Western European Countries have free healthcare, free education, free public transportation...we could have it to if it weren't for stupid old Boomer white people! Damn I hate you Dad!!!

Posted by: DSA Voters at September 23, 2026 04:51 PM (UirZC)

55 1/2 of Healthcare cost hast to be fraud

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2026 04:51 PM (Ia/+0)

56 If they cannot scam the system, then how do they earn a good living ????

Trump is mean and hates small furry animals too !!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson K. at September 23, 2026 04:51 PM (jGtoG)

57 Joe Thompson, the fed who prosecuted the Feeding Our Future fraud in Minnesota, said the fraud is too big to prosecute.

Bullshit. The same as those that scream "Conspiracy Theory".

He, and many like him, just can't stand the consequences. As in major reform. Temporary chaos. On and on.

Pretty typical.
Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 04:49 PM (1/wqL)

Even if true, you blackball and de-list all companies doing the fraud, the attorneys and such they used, and any contacts they have.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 04:51 PM (uhVAy)

58 These fucking morons do understand that a good portion of these people are MAGA, right?
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 23, 2026 04:46 PM (UirZC)

No. What we understand is that they are not people at all. They're ghosts. Imaginary.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 23, 2026 04:52 PM (zYpTz)

59 I received a mailer today that said "90%" of Texans dont vote by mail.

I am working on the exact wording to put on it but something in the vein of '90% of us don't want fraudulent elections.'

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2026 04:52 PM (UdrMW)

60 760,000. CNN wishes they could get numbers like that.
Posted by: Stu Podaso

Brian Stelter
@brianstelter
>> @JakeTapper: "It is disappointing how few voices there are in conservative media who are protesting President Trump on any of this."

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Speaking truth to power and, pfffft!, nothing!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at September 23, 2026 04:53 PM (ndZc7)

61
Fuck that kind of thinking. Sounds like job security to me. Do your job or get out of the way.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

================

I think he's got a case. There are so many people involved, and they are so nimble -- switching names, businesses, addresses, programs to take advantage of -- that you can't catch them with our current resources.

The problem is the programs -- riddled with security holes and administered by crooks from the intake clerk to the director. They need to be rolled back, business process re-engineered, everyone fired, and then MAYBE reintroduced. I'm sure half of them could be trashed anyway.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 23, 2026 04:53 PM (mmrXZ)

62 31 What does it mean to save the country $2billion when they spend so much on the endless Iran war? Their priorities are fucking messed up.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 23, 2026 04:46 PM (UirZC)

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The total cost of the Iran war so far is like minutes of Medicaid funding.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 04:53 PM (38W+X)

63 Sorry but democrats own obamacare lock, stock and barrel. It passed without a single republican vote.

And ... bullshit. John McCain didn't cast the deciding vote to defund ObamaCare. He just made the ceremonial gesture.

You think all them fucks didn't talk about it before the vote ? Really ? You think Hawg Jaws "McConnell" didn't know what was coming ? The Weak Susan ? And so on ?

Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 04:53 PM (1/wqL)

64 Richard Neal has been in the House for 37 years. Apparently he so senile he can't remember this is Obamacare.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 23, 2026 04:54 PM (I6R/i)

65 1/2 of Healthcare cost hast to be fraud
Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2026 04:51 PM (Ia/+0)

More. It cost me 10K for an ambulance trip and sitting without care in a few rooms in a hospital for three days once. The charged bills all had even higher costs then the insurance marked them all down by a huge percentage.

I didn't even get food or water for over a day.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 04:54 PM (uhVAy)

66 52 Who gets money if the enrollee is fake? Enrollees don't get cash, do they? The insurance company, maybe? Trying to figure out the cash flow diagram on this one.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

A skeptical Redditor answered:

the way it allegedly works is that an unscrupulous broker signs someone up for ACA insurance. They set it up so that they qualify for $0 premiums and the government pays the insurance companies. The insurance companies then pay the brokers a commission.
Another thing they're all hot and bothered about is people who live in states that didn't expand Medicaid, but don't make enough to qualify for ACA coverage. They're supposedly over-estimating their income to just high enough to qualify for either $0 premiums or very low cost coverage.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 23, 2026 04:54 PM (UirZC)

67 Has the Hawaiian Judge been mentioned yet?

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 04:54 PM (Gqar8)

68 You know what would keep your health care costs down?
Have you considered a MAID program?

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 23, 2026 04:55 PM (Sco7b)

69 66 the way it allegedly works is that an unscrupulous broker signs someone up for ACA insurance. They set it up so that they qualify for $0 premiums and the government pays the insurance companies. The insurance companies then pay the brokers a commission.
Another thing they're all hot and bothered about is people who live in states that didn't expand Medicaid, but don't make enough to qualify for ACA coverage. They're supposedly over-estimating their income to just high enough to qualify for either $0 premiums or very low cost coverage.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 23, 2026 04:54 PM (UirZC)

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Translation:

"Fraud is good."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 04:55 PM (38W+X)

70 Even if true, you blackball and de-list all companies doing the fraud, the attorneys and such they used, and any contacts they have.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 04:51 PM (uhVAy)


Yes. But again ... and I've got into this with folks constantly ... the idea of "they do it too". Well sure they do. So if its not a perfect net that catches everyone, it isn't fair ?

Fuck fair. Take a few heads.

Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 04:56 PM (1/wqL)

71 "a six-month suspension on new agents or brokers who sign up enrollees for healthcare coverage"

About time these agents/brokers are punished. Now go after the attorneys who push thru citizenship to illegals.

Posted by: sidney at September 23, 2026 04:56 PM (Uy/WF)

72 James: my point in the previous thread was, the left creates fake issues to distract the populace from real ones.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at September 23, 2026 04:56 PM (gHSfI)

73 Translation:

"Fraud is good."


I saw a bunch of leftwingers argue this in regards to the Somali daycare fraud.

Amusingly it wasn't from the traditional line the left argues: Because of muh slaveries and racissms!...instead they argued that massive Somali fraud showed they were NOT 68 IQ morons like the right claims.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2026 04:57 PM (sKqQm)

74
To be clear, Joe Thompson PROSECUCTED the Feeding Our Future fraud and got dozens (around 80?) charged and tried. Around 70 convicted.

At the end of the FOF prosecutions, he made a remark about fraud in general -- there is so damn much of it in Minnesota, we simply can't chase it all down.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 23, 2026 04:57 PM (mmrXZ)

75 Yes. But again ... and I've got into this with folks constantly ... the idea of "they do it too". Well sure they do. So if its not a perfect net that catches everyone, it isn't fair ?

Fuck fair. Take a few heads.
Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 04:56 PM (1/wqL)

You put these people who arrange this on a list and not let them profit by government anymore, its gonna sting.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 04:57 PM (uhVAy)

76 73 I saw a bunch of leftwingers argue this in regards to the Somali daycare fraud.

Amusingly it wasn't from the traditional line the left argues: Because of muh slaveries and racissms!...instead they argued that massive Somali fraud showed they were NOT 68 IQ morons like the right claims.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2026 04:57 PM (sKqQm)

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"Fill out these forms in this way to receive money you don't deserve."
-NGO

"Okay."
-but in Somali

"Genius!"
-Reddit

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 04:57 PM (38W+X)

77 I know a guy who doesnt have employer insurance because hes a contractor so he has to use obamacare since his job offers fuck all

His preferred insurance is now pulling out of the state because of radical abortion and troons laws forcing carriers to cover baby killing and breast slicing, which has become so exhorbitant they opted to check out rather than cover

The remaining options left are shitty ass regional HMOs who hiked premiums from something like $800 to $1100 a month for one person, which im sure all of it will be blamed on Trump

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - FAP Certified at September 23, 2026 04:58 PM (fapp/)

78 Amusingly it wasn't from the traditional line the left argues: Because of muh slaveries and racissms!...instead they argued that massive Somali fraud showed they were NOT 68 IQ morons like the right claims.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2026 04:57 PM (sKqQm)

No, it just showed that Democrat operatives are organizing it for them.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 04:58 PM (uhVAy)

79 73 Translation:

"Fraud is good."

I saw a bunch of leftwingers argue this in regards to the Somali daycare fraud.

Amusingly it wasn't from the traditional line the left argues: Because of muh slaveries and racissms!...instead they argued that massive Somali fraud showed they were NOT 68 IQ morons like the right claims.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2026 04:57 PM (sKqQm)

The Quality Learing Center Somalis?

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 04:58 PM (Gqar8)

80 You put these people who arrange this on a list and not let them profit by government anymore, its gonna sting.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 04:57 PM (uhVAy)


An odd phrasing of "treason and gallows". But Hell ... I'll not let Perfect be the enemy of Good either. I support trying your way. Until nothing changes.

Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 04:59 PM (1/wqL)

81 I think he's got a case. There are so many people involved, and they are so nimble -- switching names, businesses, addresses, programs to take advantage of -- that you can't catch them with our current resources.

Then the only alternative is to scrap the existing system and start from scratch. Everyone who wants a payment shows up in person and proves income and citizenship before any consideration for any payment is given.

And like someone else said, blacklist every agency, lawyer and bank who can be demonstrated as participating in the fraud. Then pursue legal action.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 23, 2026 04:59 PM (3Ope8)

82 POTUS coming to Knoxville on Saturday to watch TN play Texas. I saw an account on X telling fans to head to the stadium now to get in their seats in time for the game. 😂

Posted by: Jmel at September 23, 2026 04:59 PM (3TlS+)

83 You know, you don't have to remove anyone from Obamacare if you repeal it. Remember all that talk, GOP? If these simps think they're gonna bring up Obamacare to me in any context, with any details, and get me to clap, they're bat guano crazy.

Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at September 23, 2026 04:38 PM (sAnBa)
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It was effectively dead once the premium support disappeared. There is still some viability for some low income people but most of them are medicaid eligible and are being funneled that way.

I wish McCain wouldn't have been an ass on his death bed but the ACA is for the most part dead, and cleaning up the fraud from it will make it even more mostly dead.

No need to further rile up the left wing wackos for those who are already easily riled. Let them say stupid stuff like this democrat politician who gets to defend fraudsters sucking assets out of the system. He looks stupid.That's what we want.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 23, 2026 05:01 PM (7/DDO)

84 Posted by: 18-1 at September 23, 2026 04:57 PM (sKqQm)

The reincarnated Willy Sutton says...

Why rob the Government? Because that's where the money is.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 23, 2026 05:01 PM (mP0Kj)

85 The Five is on with Emily!!
AI crap.

But Emily!

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 23, 2026 05:01 PM (Sco7b)

86 There are so many reasons the GOP is losing the midterms, that the GOP should REALLY lose the midterms.

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Chris Bray: Republicans Are Allowing the Election to Be About Nothing

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What's the deal with midterms anyway? Are they midterms? Are they elections? Choose one!
- GOP Congressman Seinfeld

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at September 23, 2026 05:01 PM (ndZc7)

87 Part of me cringes whenever Trump goes to these highly exposed public venues.

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:01 PM (Gqar8)

88
Shouldn’t they have to PROVE fraud before fucking with people’s lives?

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Hmm, the headline I'm reading says "Trump Administration Set to Remove 760,000 Fraudulent Enrollees in ObamaCare"

That would be FRAUDULENT enrollees.

So, FRAUD has been proven.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 23, 2026 05:02 PM (mmrXZ)

89 Wait, have we already lost the midterms? Was there a snap election I did not hear about?

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:03 PM (Gqar8)

90 Here we go... Taking health care away from citizens !

Posted by: It's me donna at September 23, 2026 05:03 PM (+gK6I)

91
Then the only alternative is to scrap the existing system and start from scratch. Everyone who wants a payment shows up in person and proves income and citizenship before any consideration for any payment is given.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

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You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 23, 2026 05:03 PM (mmrXZ)

92 86 Chris Bray: Republicans Are Allowing the Election to Be About Nothing

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What's the deal with midterms anyway? Are they midterms? Are they elections? Choose one!
- GOP Congressman Seinfeld

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at September 23, 2026 05:01 PM (ndZc7)

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The GOP is individualizing races against opponents, focusing on GOTV efforts combined with massive ad spends that define the Democrats as crazy and dangerous.

It's an effort at base turnout (and depressing the Democrat base) that understands that midterm turnout is mostly about getting soft partisans to the polls.

A national message isn't necessary because there's no one national race. You don't run the same campaign against Roy Cooper and James Talarico and El-Sayed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:03 PM (38W+X)

93 POTUS coming to Knoxville on Saturday to watch TN play Texas.

The Donald is not going to understand anything he sees. Arch running the ball. Tennessee never doing a huddle.

Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 05:04 PM (1/wqL)

94 89 Wait, have we already lost the midterms? Was there a snap election I did not hear about?

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:03 PM (Gqar

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Yes, we lost it when there was that 1 day pause in discretionary car chases by ICE which signaled to everyone that deportations were completely over.

Which was weird, because deportations were already all over after Goode and Pretti died 4 months earlier.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:04 PM (38W+X)

95 And ... bullshit. John McCain didn't cast the deciding vote to defund ObamaCare. He just made the ceremonial gesture.

You think all them fucks didn't talk about it before the vote ? Really ? You think Hawg Jaws "McConnell" didn't know what was coming ? The Weak Susan ? And so on ?
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Yeah, and Nancy Pelosi should have been dragged into the streets when she taunted "You'll have to pass it to know what's in it."

Posted by: Crusader at September 23, 2026 05:05 PM (TN0g+)

96 In fact, I'd go a little further and do the same thing for ALL federal agencies. Forensic audit. Demonstrate your balance sheet publicly (with certain agencies exempted from that) and account for every dollar allocated and spent. No more money disbursed until you do.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 23, 2026 05:05 PM (3Ope8)

97 Report: California spends $10 billion YEARLY on homes, food, phones, tuition, healthcare, and insurance for illegal aliens

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And they've created a New Eden!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at September 23, 2026 05:05 PM (ndZc7)

98 You say that like it's a bad thing.

I mean it sincerely and hope for it earnestly.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 23, 2026 05:07 PM (3Ope8)

99 94
Yes, we lost it when there was that 1 day pause in discretionary car chases by ICE which signaled to everyone that deportations were completely over.

Which was weird, because deportations were already all over after Goode and Pretti died 4 months earlier.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:04 PM (38W+X)

So all of the angst here was really about naught. We could have been talking about movies and Sydney Sweeney and recipes??

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:07 PM (Gqar8)

100 Yeah, and Nancy Pelosi should have been dragged into the streets when she taunted "You'll have to pass it to know what's in it."

And John Roberts deciding it was a tax.

ObamaCare was not, by any stretch, a Democrat thing. Not by a long-shot.

You don't think Big Biz wasn't hoping and praying to get corporate health insurance off the books ?

Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 05:07 PM (1/wqL)

101 I queried copilot to get some sense on who benefitted -

Summary -
If multiple rings operated at scale, used fake identities, and exploited switching bonuses - given the size of the CMS cleanup (760,000 people), the multi-year duration, and the known commission structures, fraud rings almost certainly made hundreds of millions — and possibly crossed the billion-dollar mark.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 23, 2026 05:07 PM (Dv3i1)

102 The worst part is they are going after ppl that are on ACA but never had had to use their services. Those are the people you want on ACA, they are low cost and have the ACA as insurance *if* they need it (exactly how insurance is supposed to work)

I get the "advance premium tax credit" because I's po'.

The thing that gets me is if I had to pay the Obamacare premiums myself, I wouldn't be able to afford them (They're about a quarter of my monthly income), and if I had enough money to afford them, I wouldn't need the insurance, because I could just put that money aside myself and pay out of pocket.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 23, 2026 05:07 PM (vJrRc)

103 I read today that there are 55 million visa holders in the US.
1 in 7? Jeebus. That kind of matches the illegals!
No wonder stuff is so expensive.
Revoke every visa while we're doing everything else.

Posted by: MkY at September 23, 2026 05:08 PM (q6tQZ)

104 In fact, I'd go a little further and do the same thing for ALL federal agencies. Forensic audit. Demonstrate your balance sheet publicly (with certain agencies exempted from that) and account for every dollar allocated and spent. No more money disbursed until you do.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 23, 2026 05:05 PM (3Ope

That's what DOGE did for a lot of them. Ditto for Tulsi sweeping up some trash in the intelligence area.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:08 PM (uhVAy)

105 99 So all of the angst here was really about naught. We could have been talking about movies and Sydney Sweeney and recipes??

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:07 PM (Gqar

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But that's all nothing.

We REALLY lost the midterms when Trump didn't end the Ukraine war on day 1.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:08 PM (38W+X)

106 I received a mailer today that said "90%" of Texans dont vote by mail.

I am working on the exact wording to put on it but something in the vein of '90% of us don't want fraudulent elections.'

Posted by: Ben Had at September 23, 2026 04:52 PM


That's weird, I just got an email encouraging me to vote by mail because I am over 65 and "it's the law". Someone is pushing the vote by mail stuff here in Texas but it ain't republicans.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 23, 2026 05:08 PM (I43vL)

107 Feel good story:

US has deported 25,000 to third countries under secretive deals: report

...The vast majority -- around 20,000 -- were sent to Mexico, (awww, that's not what I voted for!) but the rest were dispersed to 27 other countries across Latin America, Africa, and the Pacific, and agreements have been finalised with seven more.

An AFP investigation earlier this year found Washington is using visa bans and restrictions on African countries to strongarm them into accepting deportees.

The US is back to selling slaves again...yay. This time we’re playing both sides, so that we always come out on top.

and the chucklefucks defend this fascism. we can vote to end this nonsense, November is right around the corner guys

You don't have to go home but you can't stay here. If you want to pick where you go then I would suggest self deportation. Get fucked, bitches! (I may have added that last part)

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 23, 2026 05:09 PM (UirZC)

108 Medicare for all will eliminate fraud, right?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2026 05:09 PM (Cqx++)

109 We REALLY lost the midterms when Trump didn't end the Ukraine war on day 1.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:08 PM (38W+X)

Gas prices ! Eleventy !

Posted by: It's me donna at September 23, 2026 05:09 PM (+gK6I)

110 105 99 So all of the angst here was really about naught. We could have been talking about movies and Sydney Sweeney and recipes??

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:07 PM (Gqar

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But that's all nothing.

We REALLY lost the midterms when Trump didn't end the Ukraine war on day 1.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:08 PM (38W+X)

We TOLD him that America will Not Tolerate a Months Long War where people get hurt!!

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:09 PM (Gqar8)

111 ObamaCare?

More like Cloward-PivenCare -- amirite?

(In other words -- it was DESIGNED to bankrupt the government ON PURPOSE.)

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2026 05:10 PM (Av6i5)

112 104 That's what DOGE did for a lot of them. Ditto for Tulsi sweeping up some trash in the intelligence area.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:08 PM (uhVAy)

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Reminder:

DOGE isn't dead. It got "absorbed into the bloodstream of the federal government."

DOGE employees got hired by other departments when their temporary government contracts ended and currently work in places like SSA (Big Balls went there).

https://x.com/derzum_/status/
2102427198518911279

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:10 PM (38W+X)

113 I think part of the op is to plant stories and polls in the media that are negative for Republicans. It is on blast this election cycle. None of the positive on the economy is highlighted or made relatable to people’s every day life. Even Foxnews and the WSJ stories and now editorials are noticeably negative on Trump and Republicans every single day. They don’t have a single good thing to highlight except issues that are abstract. It’s all laced with a negative under current and you don’t need to read to far to read it. They continually play on gas and food prices without giving people a basic understanding about why things are that way and how they are cyclical. For example, I guarantee you by election time gas prices will drop. After the election they will return to normal. That not an accident. It’s on purpose. The other part is they never highlight negative about Democrats nor do they posit how they will govern based on what they say now and how they did it in the past.

There is a huge effort to try and convince people of the inevitability of Democrat majorities in the House and Senate. They truly believe of they keep pushing that people won’t show up.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:10 PM (Y3swt)

114 Apparently, a significant number of brokers were doing this:

Flagged brokers submitted "statistically implausible rates" of applications for the 2026 coverage year that completely lacked mandatory data, such as Social Security numbers or verified citizenship documentation.

They were, also, screwing over the properly enrolled participants by creating "ghost files" and changing the coverage limits to increase premiums without the applicant's knowledge.

Posted by: Orson at September 23, 2026 05:11 PM (dIske)

115 ObongoCare.

What a cluster fuck. Next up...Medicare for all.

What another cluster fuck.

Posted by: Hope and Change at September 23, 2026 05:11 PM (ALGqY)

116 107 The US is back to selling slaves again...yay. This time we’re playing both sides, so that we always come out on top.

and the chucklefucks defend this fascism. we can vote to end this nonsense, November is right around the corner guys

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 23, 2026 05:09 PM (UirZC)

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1. It's not secret. It's public policy and enabled by Congressional statute.

2. Are the people we deport ending up as slaves? Who's getting a cut on the sale? That feels like a big story. Probably should provide some names.

3. Fascism does not mean deporting illegal immigrants to third party countries because their home countries don't want them. I don't know what they think fascism means.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:12 PM (38W+X)

117 113

There is a huge effort to try and convince people of the inevitability of Democrat majorities in the House and Senate. They truly believe of they keep pushing that people won’t show up.
Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:10 PM (Y3swt)

Well, collectively, people are often stupid, and easily led.

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:12 PM (Gqar8)

118 As Ace so presciently points out there is a direct correlation between the amount of government(Dem) funded fraud and the amount of election cheating.
Pity that it took this long to address the rampant Dem funded voter fraud.


Posted by: Voter theater. at September 23, 2026 05:12 PM (FCPbW)

119 Oh and BTW Democrats are pulling out all the stops on election fraud. Their mail in ballot and harvesting ops are in full swing. They are paying operatives to gather ballots. There is money to be made and that’s why you see people getting caught. The effort is so ubiquitous it’s unreal.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:12 PM (Y3swt)

120 You don't think Big Biz wasn't hoping and praying to get corporate health insurance off the books ?

Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 05:07 PM (1/wqL)
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Yeah, but then they saw the tax consequences for off loading their employees, and the revelation that the coverage was crap, and any employer who pushed their employees to the Marketplace was looking for an employee relations disaster, they wish it was never introduced.

I tried, was in DC for meetings with our congress critters. Essentially got thrown out of a dem reps office when I suggested my CFO and I would be thrown in jail if we had a program financed and costing like this one was. That was after an "all due respect" line from the LD. I threw it right back because no one in any of those offices knew what they were talking about. And they still don't.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 23, 2026 05:12 PM (7/DDO)

121 Problem: There are too many middlemen in the healthcare industry, driving up costs.

Solution: MOAR MIDDLEMEN.

Posted by: Barry O at September 23, 2026 05:13 PM (Av6i5)

122 Fascism does not mean deporting illegal immigrants to third party countries because their home countries don't want them. I don't know what they think fascism means.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:12 PM (38W+X)

Fascism = "stuff I don't like by people I don't like"

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:13 PM (uhVAy)

123 110 We TOLD him that America will Not Tolerate a Months Long War where people get hurt!!

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:09 PM (Gqar

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Worst defeat in American history.

Iran is stronger than ever.

They are just choosing to shoot missiles that fall into the ocean and only firing on cargo ships that docked in Iran because they are masters of restraint and just waiting for the US to collapse completely from oil prices that sometimes spike to $105 every couple of months but mostly stay in the $80-90 range.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:13 PM (38W+X)

124
US has deported 25,000 to third countries under secretive deals: report

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I wish this was true, but that number looks like liberal garment-rending.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 23, 2026 05:13 PM (mmrXZ)

125 Other things that should be cleaned up.

If you're hard of hearing there's a government program to give you a free phone with captions.

And if that program wasn't available, you need it, save up and buy it.

The Five - Dem influencer network exposed. Sorry, I love Emily. And Kayleigh is there and Gutfeld and Watters have some brains.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 23, 2026 05:14 PM (Sco7b)

126 119 Oh and BTW Democrats are pulling out all the stops on election fraud. Their mail in ballot and harvesting ops are in full swing. They are paying operatives to gather ballots. There is money to be made and that’s why you see people getting caught. The effort is so ubiquitous it’s unreal.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:12 PM (Y3swt)

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If only they had tried this in 2024, they might have retained power in the imperial presidency.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:14 PM (38W+X)

127 Mamdani at least is against fraud...

Posted by: Harun at September 23, 2026 05:14 PM (IuIym)

128 ObamaCare? More like Cloward-PivenCare -- amirite?

I have never, ever thought so. Anymore than FDR thought he was crashing the system with Social Security.

Obama really was a transformational guy. He was a dick, for sure. But he also thought he was the middle-man between a guaranteed fund for insurance and all these nasty insurance corporations that just had to charge more because "capitalism".

And Barry isn't the only thinker like that. Half or more of the people you shop or drink or eat around think the same way. Fools.

Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 05:14 PM (1/wqL)

129 You don't have to go home but you can't stay here.

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Have a nice day just don't have it here.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at September 23, 2026 05:15 PM (ndZc7)

130
124
US has deported 25,000 to third countries under secretive deals: report

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I wish this was true, but that number looks like liberal garment-rending.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 23, 2026 05:13 PM (mmrXZ)

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I think it's over 35,000, actually.

But, really, it amounts to criminal aliens that the home countries refuse to take or countries like Cuba that won't take anyone back from us at all.

They can go to Canada and be illegal immigrants there, if they want. Canada will probably buy them a house.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:15 PM (38W+X)

131 Problem: There are too many middlemen in the healthcare industry, driving up costs.

Solution: MOAR MIDDLEMEN.
Posted by: Barry O at September 23, 2026 05:13 PM (Av6i5)

There's an SF story "A Study in Still Life" where a spacer detailed to the bureaucracy proposes a form to track forms to his boss who isn't interested until it requires more people in his department to bump him up to a new pay grade.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:16 PM (uhVAy)

132 Pity that it took this long to address the rampant Dem funded voter fraud.
Posted by: Voter theater

I'll reserve judgement on whether it has been "dealt with" pending a few thousand convictions for voter shenanigans and/or noticeable changes in voting patterns.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 23, 2026 05:16 PM (UirZC)

133 We need to go back to when health insurance wasn't an employment benefit.

Stupid Dems and their stupid wage-freezes and their stupid "employer provided health insurance isn't taxable compensation"

Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 23, 2026 05:16 PM (vJrRc)

134 Oh, and your catalogs from Pueblo, Colorado.
Yeah, I grew up in Canada but we did get American tv.

I think the story of that entire thing would be interesting.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 23, 2026 05:16 PM (Sco7b)

135 Joe Thompson, the fed who prosecuted the Feeding Our Future fraud in Minnesota, said the fraud is too big to prosecute.

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Idiot. Nothing is too big to prosecute, and the bigger it is, the more vital it is to prosecute.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 23, 2026 05:16 PM (0U5gm)

136 They can drop off the Illegal Felons into the Barents Sea for all Imcare.

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:17 PM (Gqar8)

137 >> If only they had tried this in 2024, they might have retained power in the imperial presidency.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:14 PM (38W+X)

They’ve been encouraged to grow that operation by the courts, who will allow nothing to stop election fraud before the vote, and do everything to protect it once the vote is in.

I think even you will be surprised after the election. There is going to be a lot of counting until we win in Democrat areas.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:17 PM (R9CG3)

138 Trump's killing the Not-there!!

How will the Not-there pay for their Not-there childrens' medical expenses?!!

MAGA doesn't care.

It's a Not-there genocide!

Posted by: Axeman at September 23, 2026 05:17 PM (XMAAx)

139 You don't have to go home but you can't stay here.

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Have a nice day just don't have it here.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at September 23, 2026 05:15 PM (ndZc7)

Get 'em TFO! And take their coats!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 23, 2026 05:18 PM (QfE5e)

140 We need to go back to when health insurance wasn't an employment benefit.

Then we go back prior to WW-II. Before wage freezes.

I'm all for it. I don't think most really are.

Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 05:18 PM (1/wqL)

141 I think it's over 35,000, actually.

But, really, it amounts to criminal aliens that the home countries refuse to take or countries like Cuba that won't take anyone back from us at all.

They can go to Canada and be illegal immigrants there, if they want. Canada will probably buy them a house.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:15 PM (38W+X)

And like with the El Salvador prison, most of the encouragement is just some money and promises of a relationship. To us the money they want is like a tip in DC levels of spending to keep a dude in a work camp or something for a while.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:18 PM (uhVAy)

142 What. But Foxnews told me that Hispanics who vote or lean Republican overwhelmingly believe the president has gone too far on immigration. Whatever that means.

Oh and that Salazar dunce.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:18 PM (R9CG3)

143 Problem: There are too many middlemen in the healthcare industry, driving up costs.

Solution: MOAR MIDDLEMEN.

Posted by: Barry O at September 23, 2026 05:13 PM (Av6i5)
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There is too much government. Way too much. They are the reason costs are exploding, almost completely their fault.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 23, 2026 05:19 PM (7/DDO)

144 They can go to Canada and be illegal immigrants there, if they want. Canada will probably buy them a house.
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Yep. Canada will have to ramp up the imports with all of their own people they're busy MAIDing.

Posted by: Crusader at September 23, 2026 05:19 PM (TN0g+)

145 Flabby pallid leftist: "I want to be as unhealthy as possible."

Laissez-Faire libertarian: "Fine by me -- to each his own. Go for it."

Flabby pallid leftist: "Oh, did I mention - I want YOU to pay for my lifelong medical bills caused by me being unhealthy. Fork it over, you privileged fuck."

(Laissez-Faire libertarian quickly does a Transformer-like transmogrification to a Based MAGA Conservative.)

Frsehly-minted Based MAGA Conservative: " Die, hippie, die!"

Posted by: Barry O at September 23, 2026 05:19 PM (Av6i5)

146 Ugh --off "Barry O" sock.

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2026 05:19 PM (Av6i5)

147 What. But Foxnews told me that Hispanics who vote or lean Republican overwhelmingly believe the president has gone too far on immigration. Whatever that means.

Oh and that Salazar dunce.
Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:18 PM (R9CG3)

I wouldn't believe one thing Fox says about polling.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:20 PM (uhVAy)

148 137
They’ve been encouraged to grow that operation by the courts, who will allow nothing to stop election fraud before the vote, and do everything to protect it once the vote is in.

I think even you will be surprised after the election. There is going to be a lot of counting until we win in Democrat areas.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:17 PM (R9CG3)

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If only they had done that when the Democrat Party had control of the DOJ.

Seriously...people act like literally nothing has changed since 2024 and, in fact, that the Democrat Party has only gotten stronger.

It's literally insane.

DOJ has been pulling back on Democrat cheating efforts for more than 18 months. Laws have been passed at the state level in places like OH that make cheating significantly harder.

Does that mean that CA won't do cheating? Of course not. But CA doing cheating doesn't mean that Jon Ossoff has undone DNI monitoring Fulton County in GA.

And it always comes back to "Democrats will cheat to victory, but they just kind of didn't feel like it in 2024 for reasons." Yeah, they cheated, but all it took was a little outside pushback from the RNC to stop it from taking the presidency.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:20 PM (38W+X)

149 I mean seriously. Foxnews has every “toss up race” going to Democrats, especially in the senate. They’ve basically told Republicans to give up on NC.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:20 PM (R9CG3)

150 I mean seriously. Foxnews has every “toss up race” going to Democrats, especially in the senate. They’ve basically told Republicans to give up on NC.
Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:20 PM (R9CG3)

Their polls are terrible and have been for a decade.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:21 PM (uhVAy)

151 149 I mean seriously. Foxnews has every “toss up race” going to Democrats, especially in the senate. They’ve basically told Republicans to give up on NC.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:20 PM (R9CG3)

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Fox News polling is one of the worst polling outfits, is outright run by Democrat operatives, and has been consistently wrong for a very long time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:21 PM (38W+X)

152 149 I mean seriously. Foxnews has every “toss up race” going to Democrats, especially in the senate. They’ve basically told Republicans to give up on NC.
Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:20 PM (R9CG3)

FOX has the notoriously worst polling group.. Never right...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 23, 2026 05:22 PM (+gK6I)

153 Problem: There are too many middlemen in the healthcare industry, driving up costs.

Solution: MOAR MIDDLEMEN.
Posted by: Barry O

I remember a liberal friend in college trying to convince me that "free" government healthcare for all was the sensible solution. "Government is so much more efficient! You reduce all the overhead for profit, business taxes, etc." When I asked if he was in favor of dropping business taxes on health insurance companies then, to help them be more efficient, all the deflections came out. "No, because the saving will go to the CEOs, and not lowering premiums. It's not that much anyway. They have to pay their fair share."

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 23, 2026 05:22 PM (UirZC)

154 Medicare for all will end up paying for 1 Billoon people

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2026 05:22 PM (Ia/+0)

155 There is too much government. Way too much. They are the reason costs are exploding, almost completely their fault.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 23, 2026 05:19 PM (7/DDO)

The grift is the purpose.

The prospect of invidental medical care is mostly happenstance.

Health care grift is a human right.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 23, 2026 05:22 PM (QfE5e)

156 I mean seriously. Foxnews has every “toss up race” going to Democrats, especially in the senate. They’ve basically told Republicans to give up on NC.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:20 PM (R9CG3)

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Fox News polling is one of the worst polling outfits, is outright run by Democrat operatives, and has been consistently wrong for a very long time.

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Are you sure? That doesn't seem like something Fox would do?

Posted by: Arizona, 2020 at September 23, 2026 05:22 PM (TN0g+)

157
Those Latin American deportees who got sent to Liberia, you gotta laugh. I don't see them grabbing their crotches and yelling "Fuck Joseph Nyuma Boakai!" They seem more subdued in their new DEI-compliant surroundings.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 23, 2026 05:22 PM (mmrXZ)

158 I thought "single payer" was the communist's buzzword. I checked my bingo card and I don't have "medicare for all"........

I need a new card

Posted by: what the cat drug in at September 23, 2026 05:23 PM (jrgJz)

159 146 Ugh --off "Barry O" sock.

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2026 05:19 PM (Av6i5)

Said so many Dem male teens.
Not in the same way.

Great influencer segment. Wow, Dems are evil.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 23, 2026 05:23 PM (Sco7b)

160 156 Are you sure? That doesn't seem like something Fox would do?

Posted by: Arizona, 2020 at September 23, 2026 05:22 PM (TN0g+)

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Harvard-Harris is where it's at.

Maybe.

Still suspicious. Polling firms suddenly go wrong all the time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:23 PM (38W+X)

161 Does that mean that CA won't do cheating? Of course not. But CA doing cheating doesn't mean that Jon Ossoff has undone DNI monitoring Fulton County in GA.

And it always comes back to "Democrats will cheat to victory, but they just kind of didn't feel like it in 2024 for reasons." Yeah, they cheated, but all it took was a little outside pushback from the RNC to stop it from taking the presidency.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:20 PM (38W+X)

Even CA on full cheat mode takes months to claw back one or two seats here or there which means nothing overall.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:23 PM (uhVAy)

162 nd it always comes back to "Democrats will cheat to victory, but they just kind of didn't feel like it in 2024 for reasons." Yeah, they cheated, but all it took was a little outside pushback from the RNC to stop it from taking the presidency.

Because we've never seen it inside a state. We all saw the fat fucking union guy push observers out of the way while putting the butcher paper over the windows in Philly.

Until I see it ? I haven't seen it.

Until then ? I just assume the officials will fuck over whomever plays Notre Dame in South Bend. Because they always do.

Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 05:23 PM (1/wqL)

163 Every anchor baby on the planet, including hundreds of thousands Chinese will be eligible for universal health care

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2026 05:23 PM (Ia/+0)

164 The only reason a Republican won a Senate seat in PA was because of increased RNC focus on down ballot races as much as the presidency. Even Philadelphia. ahem

the DOJ has already announced they will be sending out over 1000 poll watchers to specific areas around the country this election. Democrat fraud is beatable. The RNC just has to have the will.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 23, 2026 05:24 PM (viF8m)

165 >> Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:20 PM (38W+X)

Tell me what’s changed with mail in ballots in places like NY, NJ, CA, etc. Those are states where we need to win House seats.

Short answer is nothing material.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:24 PM (R9CG3)

166
Posted by: Barry O at September 23, 2026 05:19 PM (Av6i5)

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Haha! That would be a good set of prompts for an AI animator.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 23, 2026 05:25 PM (mmrXZ)

167 161 Even CA on full cheat mode takes months to claw back one or two seats here or there which means nothing overall.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:23 PM (uhVAy)

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Waves materialize unevenly.

A blue wave will see massive upswings in blue districts while red districts move slightly to the left.

If we're in a wave, the effects of redistricting in 2020 and this year means that the furthest a blue wave could crest would be about 225 seats for the Democrats, and that's assuming they get every toss up.

Senate races make things more complex. The GOP won a net of 2 senate seats in 2018 in a D+9 environment. They drive up turnout to presidential levels in the states that have them. So, they tend to reflect presidential performance in the last general than anything else.

Trump won TX by 14 in 2024.

Talarico isn't getting close to a win, for instance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:25 PM (38W+X)

168 121 Problem: There are too many middlemen in the healthcare industry, driving up costs.

Solution: MOAR MIDDLEMEN.
Posted by: Barry O

More AI research (I hate Obamacare even more than I thought!)-
Why brokers exist even though Healthcare.gov is self‑serve:

The ACA is complex
People want help
Brokers are free to consumers
Insurers want brokers to bring in customers
Brokers get paid only if they enroll you
Commissions create incentives (good and bad)

The Marketplace is self‑serve, but the ACA ecosystem is not self‑explanatory.

Commissions are the #1 driver of both legitimate broker behavior and ACA fraud.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 23, 2026 05:25 PM (Dv3i1)

169 The RNC just has to have the will.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 23, 2026 05:24 PM (viF8m)


But do you have the will to light up a pinner and listen to the Amazing Rhythm Aces ? I can make you a pretty good play-list pretty quick.

Posted by: Greetings and Salutations at September 23, 2026 05:26 PM (1/wqL)

170 I mean, don’t be ridiculous. “The DoJ won a few court cases and will send out more election monitors. That will help us uncover mail in ballot fraud where people walked around and filled out ballots for other people or created them out of thin air.

Yeah I’m sure they give a fig.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:26 PM (R9CG3)

171 I couldn't get my head around how brokers could just ignore application obligations like SS# and proof of citizenship, but now I know (after looking up the process).

The Fed Govt allowed what is called EDE (Enhanced Direct Enrollment). This allowed private brokers and web based platforms to create their own software to build customized entryways into Healthcare.gov. These dicey brokers just excluded the indentification obligations from their own customized program. Then they bulk loaded thousands of applications, many of which were non-existent applicants. Then they fabricated the financial status of the applicant to get the sweetest premium.

In short, I'm sure there were illegal immigrants taking advantage of the program, but the real fraud falls likely with dishonest insurance brokers and less to do with immigration. Weak government oversight without consideration for abuse is the culprit. And, this was set up this way so that they could expedite enrollments to show a necessary government program.

Posted by: Orson at September 23, 2026 05:26 PM (dIske)

172 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:20 PM (38W+X)

Tell me what’s changed with mail in ballots in places like NY, NJ, CA, etc. Those are states where we need to win House seats.

Short answer is nothing material.
Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:24 PM (R9CG3)

That's Foolish, CA steals the same seats every election, its treading water. Meanwhile we have created new red seats in FL,TX, MO, and other states that will stick. And I can't help but see the disarray in the DNC having an effect on their operation.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:27 PM (uhVAy)

173 The polls are out there to demoralize us... Don't let them

Posted by: It's me donna at September 23, 2026 05:27 PM (+gK6I)

174 The RNC just has to have the will.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 23, 2026 05:24 PM (viF8m)
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But, alas, it is uncharacteristic of them.

Probably a good majority of DC can't wait for Trump to leave office as they hope they can go back to politics-as-speeches.

Posted by: Axeman at September 23, 2026 05:27 PM (XMAAx)

175 >> Talarico isn't getting close to a win, for instance.

Yeah but Paxton is behind or within the margin of error.
- Every shithead pollster.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:28 PM (R9CG3)

176 Their polls are terrible and have been for a decade.
Posted by: Oldcat

Damn straight! I was doing an inverted aerial for Bret Baier last year when the pole broke and I fell. Ruptured my left implant!!!!

Posted by: Candy at September 23, 2026 05:28 PM (UirZC)

177 You can't hate the Republican party enough.

Posted by: Axeman at September 23, 2026 05:28 PM (XMAAx)

178 165 >> Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:20 PM (38W+X)

Tell me what’s changed with mail in ballots in places like NY, NJ, CA, etc. Those are states where we need to win House seats.

Short answer is nothing material.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:24 PM (R9CG3)

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We're probably going to lose the House, but barely. Turnout differentials are a thing. Not even Obama's vaunted campaign team, who were lauded as the future and the best ever, could undo that, and they lost two midterms really, really badly.

And then Jeffries can try to run impeachment theater where his majority of 5 has 9 House members from Trump+5 districts.

All while OBBB fully funded and appropriated ICE through 2028 and Trump can just deport everyone still.

But, massive wave because cheating will make it so that we're losing senate seats in TX, OH, AK, and IA?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:29 PM (38W+X)

179 Trump won TX by 14 in 2024.

Talarico isn't getting close to a win, for instance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:25 PM (38W+X)

Here's my indication - the DNC is broke, the RNC isn't. That isn't showing a blue wave.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:29 PM (uhVAy)

180 I saw Jefferies crying today that some Dem from Maine endorsed Lawler. BTW there is no way Lawler loses to a DSA candidate they dropped in from out of the district. But she’s a vet or something. Sure thing, guys.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:29 PM (R9CG3)

181 >>Tell me what’s changed with mail in ballots in places like NY, NJ, CA, etc. Those are states where we need to win House seats.

>>Short answer is nothing material.

One big thing has changed is awareness. Even in 2020 when the fraud was blindingly obvious there many people on our side who claimed that Trump somehow lost to a guy who barely left his basement and even less frequently could complete a single sentence without fucking it up. Yep, Joe fucking Biden got more votes than any president in US history.

Now way more people don't just think but know Democrats cheat. They fight every election integrity project that comes up. And people are angry about it. Knowing the problem exists has to come first before you can monitor, fight back against it and ultimately fix it.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 23, 2026 05:29 PM (viF8m)

182 Fox News polling may be run by Democrat operatives, but the choice to employ them instead of other outfits is made by establishment R's that want to return the party to the pre MAGA days. If that happens, the party will split instead. Not sure they care.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 23, 2026 05:30 PM (Dv3i1)

183 170 I mean, don’t be ridiculous. “The DoJ won a few court cases and will send out more election monitors. That will help us uncover mail in ballot fraud where people walked around and filled out ballots for other people or created them out of thin air.

Yeah I’m sure they give a fig.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:26 PM (R9CG3)

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Mail in requests are actually really down this year compared to both last election and 2022.

https://x.com/TonerousHyus/status/
2102788016196452620

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:30 PM (38W+X)

184 Joe Thompson, the fed who prosecuted the Feeding Our Future fraud in Minnesota, said the fraud is too big to prosecute.


Then outsource the prosecution to volunteers. No need for courts or activist judges, incompetent prosecutors and fickle jurors. Will give Caterpillar and the lime business a shot in the arm.

In turn, the Quality of Life for those not engaged in fraud will improve as parks, roads, and public venues become less crowded; utility demand drops, housing and food prices ease due to less pressure demand; insurance rates across all modalities should drop as risks are removed...

There is more Winning there than PDJT ever promised during his campaign.

Posted by: Community Notes at September 23, 2026 05:30 PM (pUU4E)

185 Don't even pay attention to the polls

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2026 05:30 PM (Ia/+0)

186 174 The RNC just has to have the will.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 23, 2026 05:24 PM (viF8m)
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But, alas, it is uncharacteristic of them.

Probably a good majority of DC can't wait for Trump to leave office as they hope they can go back to politics-as-speeches.

Posted by: Axeman at September 23, 2026 05:27 PM (XMAAx)

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All it took was firing Ronna McDaniel, and suddenly the RNC was more interested in winning elections than flower orders.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:31 PM (38W+X)

187 The RNC just has to have the will.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 23, 2026 05:24 PM (viF8m)
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But, alas, it is uncharacteristic of them.

Probably a good majority of DC can't wait for Trump to leave office as they hope they can go back to politics-as-speeches.
Posted by: Axeman at September 23, 2026 05:27 PM (XMAAx)

trump's people run the RNC now, they are the ones that blocked fraud in PA in 2024. AND did voter outreach to the Amish that gave us a big slug of new support. I expect more of that this time.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:31 PM (uhVAy)

188 I dunno. I have no idea what will happen. But I also know in places like NY Blakeman is closing the gap for governor. You can tell they’re getting nervous.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:31 PM (R9CG3)

189 Yeah but Paxton is behind or within the margin of error.
- Every shithead pollster.
Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:28 PM (R9CG3)
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Yeah, Talafreako running around walking back all of his gonzo lunatic positions to try and con the rubes this close to the election tells me that their internal polling says he's cooked.

Posted by: ballistic at September 23, 2026 05:31 PM (oqH4h)

190 Where is Greta ????

Iran is hitting ships with projectiles, and they are leaking chemicals into the Strait of Hormuz ..

What about the fish and the children !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson K. at September 23, 2026 05:31 PM (jGtoG)

191 >>There is more Winning there than PDJT ever promised during his campaign.

Wait until you see the PMI numbers that were released today.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 23, 2026 05:32 PM (viF8m)

192 >> Mail in requests are actually really down this year compared to both last election and 2022.

What about states where they mail them to everyone?

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:32 PM (R9CG3)

193 Tell me what’s changed with mail in ballots in places like NY, NJ, CA, etc. Those are states where we need to win House seats.

Short answer is nothing material.
Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:24 PM (R9CG3)
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NY and CA...nothing...you are correct. NJ, on the other hand removed (I think as of now over 30,000) illegal immigrants from the roll. This doesn't sound like much unless you understand how ballot dumping works. They take a residence and then misrepresnt it as an apartment (which adds residences via apartment numbers that don't exist). They they use those addresses for registrations. For every single illegally registered individual with a residence, there is the potential for about 50 to 100 other votes from non-existent addresses. Most of these illegal immigrants probably don't even know it's occurring in their names.

Posted by: Orson at September 23, 2026 05:32 PM (dIske)

194 Fox News polling may be run by Democrat operatives, but the choice to employ them instead of other outfits is made by establishment R's that want to return the party to the pre MAGA days. If that happens, the party will split instead. Not sure they care.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 23, 2026 05:30 PM (Dv3i1)

They're mostly dead men walking. Increasingly even the establishment peeps will die of old age and their staffs will want MAGA jobs and get on the program.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:33 PM (uhVAy)

195 192 >> Mail in requests are actually really down this year compared to both last election and 2022.

What about states where they mail them to everyone?

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:32 PM (R9CG3)

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There are no competitive races in CA, WA, or CO, so I don't see your point.

Your argument was that Democrats are going to blow the lid off cheating and win everything.

You're falling back to "Democrats will cheat a lot in places they control totally." Which is...what they did in 2024. Which is my point.

They will do what they can, but what they can is reduced from 2024.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:34 PM (38W+X)

196 Iran is hitting ships with projectiles, and they are leaking chemicals into the Strait of Hormuz ..

Yeah the idiot IRGC did hit a cargo ship today from India killing 2 crewmembers...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 23, 2026 05:34 PM (+gK6I)

197 Wait until you see the PMI numbers that were released today.
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Wow, good thing Fed raised the rates, wouldn't want the economy getting to heat up too much before the mid-terms!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 23, 2026 05:34 PM (Dv3i1)

198 182 Fox News polling may be run by Democrat operatives, but the choice to employ them instead of other outfits is made by establishment R's that want to return the party to the pre MAGA days. If that happens, the party will split instead. Not sure they care.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 23, 2026 05:30 PM (Dv3i1)
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There aren't enough old-line establishment GOPers left to mount any sort of challenge to the MAGA side of the party at this point. The ones that are still upright spend their time cuckily shouting into the void when they're not sucking the last dollars out of the Chamber of Commerce dick.

Posted by: ballistic at September 23, 2026 05:35 PM (oqH4h)

199 Too big to fail, to big to prosecute
Sure

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2026 05:35 PM (Ia/+0)

200 Yeah but Paxton is behind or within the margin of error.
- Every shithead pollster.
Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:28 PM (R9CG3)
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Yeah, Talafreako running around walking back all of his gonzo lunatic positions to try and con the rubes this close to the election tells me that their internal polling says he's cooked.
Posted by: ballistic at September 23, 2026 05:31 PM (oqH4h)

Beto for 2 cycles and Talafreako this time are just ways for TX to steal contributions from people in the other 49 states. Their positions are comically unsuited for Texas in particular.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:35 PM (uhVAy)

201 They're mostly dead men walking.
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Mitch McConnell?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 23, 2026 05:35 PM (Dv3i1)

202 200 Beto for 2 cycles and Talafreako this time are just ways for TX to steal contributions from people in the other 49 states. Their positions are comically unsuited for Texas in particular.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:35 PM (uhVAy)

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But Democrat primaries in TX are dictated by Austin progressives, so this problem will only get worse for them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:35 PM (38W+X)

203 >>Mitch McConnell?

Dead man rolling.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 23, 2026 05:36 PM (viF8m)

204 203 >>Mitch McConnell?

Dead man rolling.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 23, 2026 05:36 PM (viF8m)

Being rolled

Posted by: It's me donna at September 23, 2026 05:36 PM (+gK6I)

205 But Democrat primaries in TX are dictated by Austin progressives, so this problem will only get worse for them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 23, 2026 05:35 PM (38W+X)

Yes, increasingly the Dems can't find candidates who can fool anyone that they aren't insane leftists who are going to implement insane leftist programs.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:38 PM (uhVAy)

206 >>Mitch McConnell?

Dead man rolling.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 23, 2026 05:36 PM (viF8m)

Being rolled

Posted by: It's me donna at September 23, 2026 05:36 PM (+gK6I)

Can we push grandma off the cliff already?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 23, 2026 05:38 PM (QfE5e)

207 Discussing Fox News and their bias towards Democrats, well it is a subject of conversation for what now, twenty years? We know, or should know their game,

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:39 PM (Gqar8)

208 >>Mitch McConnell?

Dead man rolling.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 23, 2026 05:36 PM (viF8m)

I'd just say he's out of the picture now, and his staffers will have to find a new home or be out of the DC picture.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 23, 2026 05:39 PM (uhVAy)

209 Texas can't find blue hair, tats up their arms women to run for office?

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2026 05:40 PM (Ia/+0)

210 >>
Your argument was that Democrats are going to blow the lid off cheating and win everything.

That’s not my argument. My thesis based on evidence is they are trying to ramp up that process. In some cases they are already being caught. But there has been very little incentive for Dems to slow the building of that operation.

Posted by: Vengeance at September 23, 2026 05:40 PM (R9CG3)

211 I wonder what their thinking is, to reanimate the McConnell corpse?

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:41 PM (Gqar8)

212 As Ace so presciently points out there is a direct correlation between the amount of government(Dem) funded fraud and the amount of election cheating.
Pity that it took this long to address the rampant Dem funded voter fraud.


Posted by: Voter theater. at September 23, 2026 05:12 PM


Guarantee you that if usaid wasn't cut off the democrats would not have had to mortgage their dnc headquarters building in DC to cover their debts.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 23, 2026 05:41 PM (I43vL)

213 I gave up on Fox long ago

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2026 05:41 PM (Ia/+0)

214 The polls are out there to demoralize us... Don't let them

At this point, I submit that polls exist to drive "trades" at prediction market gambling sites.

The vig is made in the volatility

Posted by: Community Notes at September 23, 2026 05:42 PM (/TiS1)

215 The worst part is they are going after ppl that are on ACA but never had had to use their services. Those are the people you want on ACA, they are low cost and have the ACA as insurance *if* they need it (exactly how insurance is supposed to work)
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God they’re just so dumb.

Silly Vance! Why would you cancel enrollment of people who don’t pay or use the service? The insurance company bills the government and there are no claims at all! It’s perfect!

Oh wait.

Posted by: MJ at September 23, 2026 05:42 PM (ZwKpZ)

216 Remember they called for the Auto-Pen President out of their ass

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2026 05:42 PM (Ia/+0)

217 Palate cleanser -

Argentina President Javier Milei just walked up to the mic at the United Nations and RIPPED THEM TO THEIR FACES

"It's become a USELESS organization whose only purpose is to sustain a caste of fatefully arrogant PARASITES masquerading as well-intentioned bureaucrats!"

"The alleged 'defenders of human rights' have sheltered bloodthirsty dictatorships and regimes that stone women in the streets!"

"Good people do not think about controlling the lives of their fellow human beings."

"Those who were supposed to guarantee collective security and human rights failed in their task. Instead, they allowed chaos, violence and international terrorism to flourish."

Vid at link (X) - https://tinyurl.com/2wfmzfnf

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 23, 2026 05:43 PM (Dv3i1)

218 Honest elections are sort of a Unicorn, or perhaps a Grail now, in the Blue States.

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:44 PM (Gqar8)

219 207 Discussing Fox News and their bias towards Democrats, well it is a subject of conversation for what now, twenty years? We know, or should know their game,

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:39 PM (Gqar8

I like to check out the crazies. Me and reddit guy try to fill out ace's kick-ass reporting.

One hilarious thing I saw on Kos was their belief in all media is right wing. We truly are in different realities.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 23, 2026 05:44 PM (Sco7b)

220 Fox News’ leftist tilt (the network might lean right but their journalists and staff are just as left wing as every other new organization) was quite apparent during Trump’s first term as ever anchor on during the day could barely contain their TDS during the Russia Russia Russia hoax, the impeachments, and COVID, like every other channel.

The 2020 Arizona call should have left no doubt about Fox’s true nature.

They also foisted Tucker on us.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 23, 2026 05:44 PM (6ydKt)

221 Fox throws a few Right(ish) news readers to the viewers from time to time - but it’s establishment Left.

Posted by: tubal at September 23, 2026 05:46 PM (Gqar8)

222 The 2020 Arizona call should have left no doubt about Fox’s true nature.

They also foisted Tucker on us.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 23, 2026 05:44 PM (6ydKt)

Ahh the year all trust in all institutions died.

It was cute how filled up I was on hopium waiting for the Supreme Court to step up.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 23, 2026 05:49 PM (Sco7b)

223 Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 23, 2026 05:43 PM (Dv3i1)

Thank you.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 23, 2026 05:50 PM (Sco7b)

224
Iran is hitting ships with projectiles, and they are leaking chemicals into the Strait of Hormuz ..

What about the fish and the children !!


But Trump bombed a school of fish.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2026 05:52 PM (Cqx++)

225 Try telling your average Dem sheep that Fox is actually left leaning is a lost cause. "Faux News" is ingrained in their DNA.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 23, 2026 05:53 PM (I6R/i)

226 But Trump bombed a school of fish.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2026 05:52 PM (Cqx++)

And he said pussy.
We keep forgetting the huge atrocities.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 23, 2026 05:54 PM (Sco7b)

227 Uh...what? -

United employees forced a 25 year old woman to return to her seat next to a man who was masturbating because the flight was full. After landing, the airline told the woman it was her responsibility to contact police and gave her a $100 travel credit.

https://tinyurl.com/2cdw63rh

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 23, 2026 05:58 PM (Dv3i1)

228 Nood
Don't know when

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 23, 2026 06:00 PM (Sco7b)

229 5:32?

Did i miss a nood?

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 23, 2026 06:02 PM (Sco7b)

230 I have pored over the evidence, and can now confirm that Bill Nye the Pseudoscience Bitch likes a big black bull sodomizing him from the rear, while he in turn sodomizes a two month old boy.

Posted by: Ken at September 23, 2026 06:10 PM (aVf49)

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