Thursday Overnight Open Thread - September 17, 2026

Howdy Hordelings! Welcome to the Thursday ONT! Mixed bag of content for those who care. Open thread, as always. On time, as always. What's on YOUR mind tonight?

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Quite the before and after

I dare anyone to find a BETTER before and after hair cut. This guy is an absolute WIZARD! pic.twitter.com/32L5ftXv1P
— Critically Thinking & Drinking 🧐 🥃🧉🍸🍹🤪 (@TheCriticalDri1) September 17, 2026

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Why did we stop building stuff with so much detail?

What humans used to build.

Palau de la Música Catalana (190 in Barcelona, Spain. pic.twitter.com/XhNK3vkb6P
— Fascinating History (@Fascinate_Hist) September 9, 2026

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Abandoned plans for a city across from San Francisco.

Developers planned a city of 30,000 people in the hills directly across the Golden Gate from San Francisco

Two Spanish-tiled stucco gateposts once stood at the mouth of Tennessee Valley in Marin County, opening onto nothing at all.
Behind them a road climbed into the hills and stopped. It had been bulldozed wide enough to carry commuter traffic, because that was the entire idea. Those gates were the front door of Marincello, a city of 30,000 people planned for the slopes directly across the water from San Francisco. In the mid 1960s it came alarmingly close to existing.
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Modesty was not a design feature. Fifty apartment towers, hundreds of houses and townhouses, 250 acres of light industry, a shopping mall running a full mile with ornamental pools and elephant trains, and a square ringed by churches and named Brotherhood Plaza. A hotel would crown the highest hill on the property. Hart costs the twenty-year build at $285 million in 1964 dollars.
An earlier draft was madder still. The Bay Area history archive FoundSF records a scheme originally drawn up for more than 150,000 residents, which the planning process eventually talked down to 30,000.
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A state appellate court ruled on 2 November 1970 that the 1965 approval could not stand and the plan would have to be lodged again from scratch. A lawyer for Gulf Oil called it silly to kill a multimillion-dollar development on a technicality. Praetzel’s answer, years later, was that the technicality in question was the law.
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Walk south from the Tennessee Valley car park and the track underfoot gets suspiciously wide.
This is the Marincello Trail, which the Golden Gate National Parks Conservancy measures at 2.9 miles return with 694 feet of climb. The same data gives a typical tread of 120 inches, or ten feet of graded roadway, waiting on cars that never turned up.

So we missed out another blue shithole in California, right??

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The headline here omits a very important word.

Many Venezuelan immigrants shun Florida and turn to smaller cities in Utah, elsewhere

Snow-covered mountains ringing a valley of wide, free-flowing roads remind Venezuelan transplants that the growing suburbs south of Salt Lake City offer what Miami can’t.
One million Venezuelans were released into the United States after crossing the Mexican border during a record immigration surge, and many shunned Miami and other longtime immigrant footholds for smaller places with less established communities — a pattern found in an exclusive Associated Press analysis of fedteral data from fall 2018 to summer 2025.
These cities and towns promised better jobs, cheaper homes, less traffic and higher quality of life, outweighing Florida’s allure of tropical weather and ease of getting by on Spanish alone.

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After less than two weeks there, Vera and his mother accepted a cousin’s invitation to Utah. In the southern suburbs, with massive new housing tracts and pristine shopping centers, Vera found factory work but soon quit to turn a hobby baking for co-workers into his own business. Today he employs 15 people — many, like him, asylum seekers — at a warehouse and two bakeries.

That last sentence contains the clue as to the missing word.

Utah — known as a relatively immigrant-friendly state despite deep Republican roots and support for President Donald Trump — became a top destination for Venezuelans crossing the border, along with parts of the Chicago, Denver, Atlanta, Dallas and Houston metro areas, AP’s data show. Venezuelans also went to smaller cities including Madison, Wisconsin; Albuquerque, New Mexico; and Savannah, Georgia.
It’s a pattern playing out across the U.S.: Some Cubans eschewed Florida and went to Louisville, Kentucky, and Odessa, Texas; Colombians chose the Boston and Denver areas; and Paterson, New Jersey, was the top pick among Peruvians.
These communities have both benefited from the influx of people and struggled to integrate their new arrivals.

"Struggled to integrate their new arrivals"??? How dare they not just make life easy for these "asylum seekers"?!?

Trump’s immigration crackdown instilled fear and made Venezuelans less visible since 2023, when arrivals peaked in Utah and in the United States as a whole. Everyone here seems to know someone who returned to Venezuela voluntarily because they feared being detained and deported or because they lost their work authorization.
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Arrieta’s wife — co-owner Sandy Arrieta — wanted to stay open. But he believes nothing will turn around while Trump’s in office.
“Until the government changes, the problems will not end,” said Fidel, 65, who immigrated in 1994.

That's more than enough for you to get the gist of the intention of this article. Check out the whole thing if you want more bilge.

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Saw some pushback in the comments on Tuesday against my semi-crusade against Flock. We can respectfully disagree. But you might want to skip past this segment.

Hackers find encryption keys stored on stolen Flock camera despite company's denials — group extracts more than 27,000 clips, 1.6 million images captured in a span of 21 days from the device

Flock claims that images are only briefly stored on its cameras before being forwarded to the company’s servers, but a group of hackers determined that this wasn’t the case.
Flock says that its cameras are protected by on-device encryption, and even though a security researcher noted some flaws in its system, the company said that physical access is still required to exploit them and that the images are only briefly retained on the device before they’re forwarded to the cloud. However, 404 Media says that a hacking group called stegan0gram found out that this wasn’t the case after they took down a Flock camera positioned over a roadway and analyzed the data stored inside it.
While the hacking group failed to access the most sensitive data stored on the Flock camera, they were still able to access its Android operating system and found two storage partitions, labeled “vendor” and “media.” The latter was found to contain an encryption key that unlocked another partition containing all the media files from the camera. 404 Media said that that particular Flock camera captured about 1.6 million images across 21 days, detecting around 50,200 vehicles and, more concerningly, 11 people. There were also 27,321 video clips saved on the device — MP4 files with a 1024 x 768 resolution that lasted about a second or two.
Abilities like reading license plates and describing vehicle characteristics like color, make, and model are done on Flock’s servers, but these cameras still retain some edge AI capabilities. This includes detecting people, vehicles, bicycles, and plate-like shapes, which it then crops and sends to the company servers, alongside the original images. Although the software was found to have some facial detection capabilities, the publication said that this was the stock capabilities included in the operating system and wasn’t used by the camera.

How the American revolt against Flock cameras mirrors the Boston Tea Party of 1773

A grassroots revolt against automated license plate readers, or ALPRs, has gained momentum across the United States.
ALPRs are AI-powered cameras that capture images of all passing vehicles. The camera systems turn details into datapoints searchable by anyone with access to the information.
Today, there are more than 130,000 ALPRs on U.S. streets. And more than 5,000 law enforcement agencies use cameras produced by a single manufacturer, Flock Safety, which says its cameras have helped law enforcement agencies identify and arrest criminals and reduce crime.
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As a historian of the American Revolution, I see parallels between Americans’ revolt against ALPRs and colonists’ destructive and often violent pushback to late 18th-century British rule.
If this summer’s celebrations marking the 250th anniversary of the nation’s founding failed to inspire widespread patriotism, the increasingly bipartisan revolution against ALPRs suggests Americans have not entirely lost their rebellious spirit.

Long article, but I think it's worth the read.

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Incredible surgery!

Twin sisters conjoined at the head underwent successful separation surgery

Surgeons at a children's hospital in Missouri earlier this year successfully separated infant twin sisters who had been born conjoined at the head, hospital officials announced Wednesday.
Sisters Hiyab and Wuhbto are now recovering and undergoing rehabilitation and intensive care, more than six months after their cranial separation surgery in February, the hospital said.
The Feb. 24-25 surgery, at SSM Health Cardinal Glennon Children's Hospital in St. Louis, Missouri, took more than 24 hours to complete and involved a team of specialists across multiple disciplines.
"It is still too soon to know exactly what their long-term development will look like but what we do know is that they now have opportunities that would not have been possible without this intervention," Dr. Joanna Kemp, head neurological surgeon at SSM Health Cardinal Glennon Children’s Hospital, said in a press conference Wednesday.

News video segment at the link. Photos also.

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Dino is just like the rest of us!

The T. rex had a body temperature similar to our own, study finds

Using fossilized teeth, scientists have finally taken the T. rex’s temperature — and it wasn’t too different from our own.
Researchers once thought that dinosaurs were sluggish, cold-blooded creatures. Later findings challenged that, suggesting that older dinosaurs were warm-blooded and could control their body temperature.
Most scientists agree that Tyrannosaurus rex was warm-blooded, but pinning down the exact core temperature of an extinct creature is difficult.
“We can’t just use a thermometer to do that,” said Jasmina Wiemann, a paleobiologist at Johns Hopkins University who had no role in the latest work.

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DJ Doof - Random 90s Stuff Edition

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Comments

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1 "The argumentative defense of any proposition is inversely proportional to the truth contained."

'Nuff said.

Posted by: mindful webworker - they'll be bock! at September 17, 2026 09:56 PM (XAUvQ)

2 NOODled the corgis.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dawg whissles at September 17, 2026 09:58 PM (XAUvQ)

3

Somebody exploded an H-bomb today
But it wasn't anybody I knew

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 17, 2026 09:59 PM (Cqx++)

4 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 17, 2026 09:59 PM (o36GC)

5
*waves to cheering crowd*
*points to people in audience*

Good evening, Hordians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 17, 2026 10:00 PM (eRlcH)

6 1

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at September 17, 2026 10:00 PM (tuyt8)

7 The University Democrats, a student group at the University of Texas at Austin, unintentionally brought together political heavyweights from both sides of the aisle after announcing earlier this month an event featuring controversial Twitch streamer Hasan Piker.

Gov. Greg [Bud] Abbott, Sen. Ted Cruz and Rep. Henry Cuellar, to voice[d] their disapproval of the event and condemn[ed] Piker.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 17, 2026 10:00 PM (VQ0bX)

8 Yay ONT! Now for the content!

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at September 17, 2026 10:00 PM (tuyt8)

9 First perhaps?

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at September 17, 2026 10:01 PM (4Qj8V)

10 “We can’t just use a thermometer to do that,” said Jasmina Wiemann, a paleobiologist at Johns Hopkins University who had no role in the latest work.

Where would we be without scientists?

Posted by: mikeski at September 17, 2026 10:01 PM (VHUov)

11 Cool opening picture

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at September 17, 2026 10:01 PM (w3u3d)

12 Nice pic, Doof! Now to enjoy the content.

Today was okay. Decent phone interview, won't hear back for 2-3 weeks on that of course. Nother interview tomorrow for another company.

Praying still for the path to be made clear, or at least some stronger hints.

Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at September 17, 2026 10:02 PM (aJQbY)

13 Cool opening picture

Explanation?

Thanks for the ONT, Doof.

Posted by: LRob in OK at September 17, 2026 10:03 PM (Jr+re)

14 Good evening Horde! Thanks Disco!

Average warm blooded temperature > room temperature

Posted by: TRex - average temperature dino at September 17, 2026 10:03 PM (XfIK1)

15 More info about those conjoined twins: After completing the separation surgery, scans showed that one child had more brain that the other one.

The one with the bigger brain is registered as a Republican, and the one with very little brain is a Democrat

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 17, 2026 10:04 PM (1Ff7Z)

16 No Holiday Road for Mitch?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:05 PM (viF8m)

17 ***Palau de la Música Catalana (190 in Barcelona, Spain.
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Hippies

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 17, 2026 10:05 PM (VQ0bX)

18 Harrrumph!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2026 10:05 PM (wpRMV)

19 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 17, 2026 10:05 PM (v9vY1)

20 Catalonians. That's Barthelona, right?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2026 10:06 PM (wpRMV)

21 Most scientists agree that Tyrannosaurus rex was warm-blooded, but pinning down the exact core temperature of an extinct creature is difficult.

“We can’t just use a thermometer to do that,” said Jasmina Wiemann, a paleobiologist at Johns Hopkins University who had no role in the latest work.

Imagine the poor scientist who would have been the one to insert the rectal thermometer to take a T-Rex's temp.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 17, 2026 10:07 PM (1Ff7Z)

22 Is that a Family Truckster I spy?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2026 10:07 PM (wpRMV)

23 I dare anyone to find a BETTER before and after hair cut. This guy is an absolute WIZARD!
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Critically Thinking, it would be difficult to restrain one's self.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 17, 2026 10:08 PM (VQ0bX)

24 >>Cool opening picture

>>Explanation?

>>Thanks for the ONT, Doof.

Fire wheel burning in the air

First one who gets it wins a cookie.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:08 PM (viF8m)

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“We can’t just use a thermometer to do that,” said Jasmina Wiemann, a paleobiologist at Johns Hopkins University who had no role in the latest work.

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Those who shove a thermometer up the ass of a T Rex are notable for their short lifespan.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2026 10:08 PM (wpRMV)

26 Somebody exploded an H-bomb today
But it wasn't anybody I knew
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 17, 2026 09:59 PM (Cqx++)

More than 20 miles from my house. Don't care.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at September 17, 2026 10:09 PM (vSvIl)

27 Hiyab and Wuhbto?

Next surgery will be the clitorectomy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 10:10 PM (1z8ji)

28 The only reason I remember “Better than Ezra” is Norm McDonald.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 17, 2026 10:11 PM (sTKQb)

29 Cool opening picture

Explanation?

Thanks for the ONT, Doof.
Posted by: LRob in OK at September 17, 2026 10:03 PM (Jr+re)

Lena Dunham broke wind while riding in a zeppelin.

That's my guess.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, call BR549 at September 17, 2026 10:12 PM (0aYVJ)

30 my semi-crusade against Flock

Posted in the last thread:

Cop, married, with two kids, uses Flock and police databases to stalk a woman who had clearly rebuffed him, mentioned having a boyfriend. Cop says he saw a "shiny thing." Creep. (27:36) -Audit the Audit

https://youtu.be/kTI8Ez39LUY

Also, #191 in previous thread
Today's AI & robots news, five items
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Posted by: mindful webworker - for human, press 1 at September 17, 2026 10:12 PM (XAUvQ)

31 First one who gets it wins a cookie.

GD song, but what's the picture?

Posted by: LRob in OK at September 17, 2026 10:12 PM (Jr+re)

32 Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 17, 2026 10:12 PM (zZu0s)

33 Love that Mitch is finally taking some family break time from his busy Senate schedule!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 17, 2026 10:13 PM (KQ5R7)

34 Gov. Greg [Bud] Abbott, Sen. Ted Cruz and Rep. Henry Cuellar, to voice[d] their disapproval of the event and condemn[ed] Piker.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 17, 2026 10:00

I guess Piker is getting even more attention w/ his latest babblings. So this attention whore makes money by being an "influencer"? Is that how the internet works today?

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at September 17, 2026 10:13 PM (4Qj8V)

35 >>GD song, but what's the picture?

Hell if I know.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:14 PM (viF8m)

36 That's Rombley driving the Family Truckster, with the Turtle on the roof, right?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 10:15 PM (1z8ji)

37 No Holiday Road for Mitch?
Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:05 PM (viF8m)

Missed opportunity. I denounce myself.

Posted by: Doof at September 17, 2026 10:15 PM (NZw0l)

38 Cornell just announced Hassan Piker is bringing his act to Ithaca. Fun times ahead.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 17, 2026 10:15 PM (KQ5R7)

39 Sorry I'm late, Godzilla needed help getting a splinter out of his foot.

Posted by: tankdemon at September 17, 2026 10:16 PM (2RJDy)

40 Hello All, I must be going.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at September 17, 2026 10:16 PM (Q/FnY)

41 Where would we be without scientists?
Posted by: mikeski at September 17, 2026 10:01 PM (VHUov)

Shoving a thermometer up a TRex's ass is probably not a life-enhancing act.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 10:16 PM (1z8ji)

42 Hello All, I must be going.
Posted by: Gmac

Groucho, izzat you?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 17, 2026 10:17 PM (o36GC)

43 Picture is from the game Halo.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 17, 2026 10:17 PM (sTKQb)

44 The only reason I remember “Better than Ezra” is Norm McDonald.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 17, 2026 10:11 PM (sTKQb)

They had a hot song, didnt they... 90s? This is gonna bug me now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 17, 2026 10:17 PM (zZu0s)

45 The T. rex had a body temperature similar to our own, study finds

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Yeah? Well, he wasn't as hot as Sydney Sweeney.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at September 17, 2026 10:18 PM (ndZc7)

46 I don't envy anyone trying to take the temp of a T-Rex the traditional way.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 17, 2026 10:18 PM (FZ29D)

47 >>GD song, but what's the picture?

Hell if I know.
Posted by: JackStraw

No, that's what you get when you cross an elephant and a rhino.

Posted by: mikeski at September 17, 2026 10:19 PM (VHUov)

48 Sorry I'm late, Godzilla needed help getting a splinter out of his foot.
Posted by: tankdemon at September 17, 2026 10:16 PM (2RJDy)
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Did you also have to take his temp?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 17, 2026 10:19 PM (FZ29D)

49 Tomorrow is first Christmas and I'm playing hooky all afternoon. Going to see the Newport Boat Show with some friends, oogle boats, eat lobster and drink rum. 3 things I absolutely excel at.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:19 PM (viF8m)

50 38 Cornell just announced Hassan Piker is bringing his act to Ithaca. Fun times ahead.

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Someone needs to take a flamethrower to the entire Board of Trustees.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2026 10:20 PM (wpRMV)

51 Where would we be without scientists?
Posted by: mikeski

Shoving a thermometer up a TRex's ass is probably not a life-enhancing act.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

That too, but I was thinking more about how you'd apply a thermometer to a fossil, and get a result other than room temperature.

Posted by: mikeski at September 17, 2026 10:21 PM (VHUov)

52 *** ***

A state appellate court ruled on 2 November 1970 that the 1965 approval could not stand and the plan would have to be lodged again from scratch. A lawyer for Gulf Oil called it silly to kill a multimillion-dollar development on a technicality. Praetzel’s answer, years later, was that the technicality in question was the law.
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This is an insight into and maybe the genesis, of California's failure.
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Another oilman, George Mitchell developed, in unrestrained TX,
The Woodlands, TX, a place where one will find the Exxon campus, Halliburton, Anadarko Petroleum, Woodforest National Bank, CBRE Group, The Howard Hughes Corporation, Baker Hughes, Lexicon Pharmaceuticals, Conoco Phillips, Hewlett Packard and Noble Energy There are many others but Wiki is limited.
_Need a job?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 17, 2026 10:23 PM (VQ0bX)

53 Good evening morons and

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:23 PM (RIvkX)

54 и спасибо, Дуф

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:23 PM (RIvkX)

55 was thinking more about how you'd apply a thermometer to a fossil, and get a result other than room temperature.

Go outdoors in NDak around January and you'd get a temp WELL below room temp.

Posted by: LRob in OK at September 17, 2026 10:23 PM (Jr+re)

56 Someone needs to take a flamethrower to the entire Board of Trustees.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2026 10:20 PM (wpRMV)

Just think of all the weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth that would ensue if some patriot shot Hasan Piker in the neck with Grandpa's old sporterized Mauser.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 10:24 PM (1z8ji)

57 Matthew Foldi
@MatthewFoldi
#ARSEN NEWS:
Arkansas Democrat Hallie Shoffner says on tape that she “would trade five Americans for one” illegal immigrant worker.

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Well, can I pick the five Americans and the illegal?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at September 17, 2026 10:24 PM (ndZc7)

58
Cornell just announced Hassan Piker is bringing his act to Ithaca. Fun times ahead.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Who's opening for him?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 17, 2026 10:24 PM (Cqx++)

59 Cornell just announced Hassan Piker is bringing his act to Ithaca. Fun times ahead.

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Professor Jacobson will be there.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:24 PM (RIvkX)

60
The hotblooded dino video:
https://t.ly/_NnmQ

You're welcome.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 17, 2026 10:25 PM (w6EFb)

61 I was down in Cleveland, attending an event this past weekend.

In the span of just one year the townships of Gates Mills, Hunting Valley, and Chagrin Falls have all gone full nazi, and have installed Flock cameras EVERYWHERE.

My friends say that basic traffic fines for speeding start at $250.00.

Do you have any idea of how hard it is to drive 35mph on boulevard type roads. The damn things are 2 1/2 lanes wide, and one way traffic on each side.

Hell, back in youth 60mph was going slow ...

Takes all the fun out of driving it does.

Posted by: browndog says woof at September 17, 2026 10:26 PM (oCio0)

62 "Well, can I pick the five Americans and the illegal?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks"

How about The Squad for a Mexican weathergirl?

Posted by: Ripley at September 17, 2026 10:27 PM (PTDkx)

63 I fell into a burning ring of fire
I went down, down, down and the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns
The ring of fire, the ring of fire

Posted by: The Man in Black at September 17, 2026 10:28 PM (YcOeP)

64 49 Tomorrow is first Christmas and I'm playing hooky all afternoon. Going to see the Newport Boat Show with some friends, oogle boats, eat lobster and drink rum. 3 things I absolutely excel at.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:19 PM (viF8m)

Enjoy, good sir ...

Posted by: browndog says woof at September 17, 2026 10:28 PM (oCio0)

65 Mixed bag, alright. Kinda like the boxes and bags of garage stuff auctioned off late at an estate sale. Or a pile of 60s dress patterns. Good stuff, though.

Posted by: Just Browsing at September 17, 2026 10:28 PM (Fn+3X)

66 Incredible surgery!

Twin sisters conjoined at the head underwent successful separation surgery
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This is what happens when you let them black folk go to college.
Gotta be careful.
_LBJ

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 17, 2026 10:28 PM (VQ0bX)

67 Saw some pushback in the comments on Tuesday against my semi-crusade against Flock. We can respectfully disagree. But you might want to skip past this segment.
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On the contrary I am happy for you to shine a light on any threat to our constitutional freedoms.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:29 PM (RIvkX)

68 63 I fell into a burning ring of fire
I went down, down, down and the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns
The ring of fire, the ring of fire

Posted by: The Man in Black at September 17, 2026 10:28 PM
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Ouch. Was someone trying to take your temperature?

Posted by: TRex - post-hump day dino at September 17, 2026 10:30 PM (XfIK1)

69 How about The Squad for a Mexican weathergirl?

Posted by: Ripley

Now you're talking!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at September 17, 2026 10:31 PM (ndZc7)

70 So we missed out another blue shithole in California, right??
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Fun fact: there is no freeway through San Francisco to the GG bridge. There is three miles of stop lights on every corner and a speed limit of 35.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:31 PM (RIvkX)

71 That barber video- Goddamn, boy!

Also, I hate Califa, but don't fuck with the Marin. One of the few places I don't hate (but probably should).

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at September 17, 2026 10:31 PM (QaH55)

72 Flock is hardly the beginning. As many others have noted, there have been cameras all the fck over public spaces for many many years, no doubt being used and misused by who knows but they have ZERO accountability.

Gosh, it would be terrible if some of those other cameras were to be mistaken for Flockers.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 17, 2026 10:32 PM (+fdRY)

73 Cornell just announced Hassan Piker is bringing his act to Ithaca. Fun times ahead.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Who's opening for him?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 17, 2026 10:24 PM (Cqx++)

Mohammed the Prophet. I hear he's a hard act to follow.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at September 17, 2026 10:33 PM (qx7Zg)

74 >>Enjoy, good sir ...

Thank you my friend.

This really is something I look forward to every year.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:33 PM (viF8m)

75 Trying to do more animation but it isn't good for my heath. You can ask why but I don't know the answer.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 17, 2026 10:33 PM (CHHv1)

76 At least Mitch got to ride on the roof. If he went with the Romney's, he'd be tied to the back bumper. Not sure about the wheelchair, though.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at September 17, 2026 10:35 PM (qx7Zg)

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24 >>Cool opening picture

>>Explanation?

>>Thanks for the ONT, Doof.

Fire wheel burning in the air

First one who gets it wins a cookie.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:08 PM

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Estimated Prophet. The Dead.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 17, 2026 10:35 PM (t1fZA)

78 In the span of just one year the townships of Gates Mills, Hunting Valley, and Chagrin Falls have all gone full nazi, and have installed Flock cameras EVERYWHERE
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True

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 17, 2026 10:36 PM (dM5CL)

79 Tomorrow is first Christmas and I'm playing hooky all afternoon. Going to see the Newport Boat Show with some friends, oogle boats, eat lobster and drink rum. 3 things I absolutely excel at.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:19 PM (viF8m)

Sounds like a plan. I worked on some of these for a while as a yute: https://www.nauticapedia.ca/vessel.php?id=47509

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 10:36 PM (1z8ji)

80 Sorry I'm late, Godzilla needed help getting a splinter out of his foot.
Posted by: tankdemon

Splinter. Right. That was the Todaiji Temple.

Or Bambi.

Posted by: mindful webworker - yes, I looked it up at September 17, 2026 10:36 PM (XAUvQ)

81
10 “We can’t just use a thermometer to do that,” said Jasmina Wiemann, a paleobiologist at Johns Hopkins University who had no role in the latest work.

Where would we be without scientists?
Posted by: mikeski at September 17, 2026 10:01 PM

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What's that smell? Oh yeah, DEI.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 17, 2026 10:37 PM (t1fZA)

82 The Di-Noc panels on the Family Truckster were well done, I must say. And the full wheel covers and whitewalls are to die for.

Posted by: Oozing Class at September 17, 2026 10:38 PM (Fn+3X)

83 >>Sounds like a plan. I worked on some of these for a while as a yute:

Sweet. I plan to carve out some time to go check out the new trawlers.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:39 PM (viF8m)

84 Hi.

Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 17, 2026 10:39 PM (jMB9H)

85
Imagine the poor scientist who would have been the one to insert the rectal thermometer to take a T-Rex's temp.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 17, 2026 10:07 PM (1Ff7Z)

That's why they made student interns. The hot coeds go to "professor's office hours", the young men receive exciting work opportunities in the live animal labs, IYKWIM.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 17, 2026 10:39 PM (iqcvy)

86 True
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 17, 2026 10:36 PM (dM5CL)

I had to drive up SOM Center Rd from Solon to Gates Mills Blvd, I swear every intersection had a multiplicity of cameras ... and I aged about 10 years during that drive.

I can't drive that slowly on SOM ...

Posted by: browndog says woof at September 17, 2026 10:40 PM (oCio0)

87 Or Bambi.
Posted by: mindful webworker

Favorite joke time -

Bambi's mom steps out of the woods into the clearing rubbing her behind and states:

"That's the last time I do THAT for two bucks!"

(HeyOhhhhhhhh!!)

Posted by: Tonypete at September 17, 2026 10:40 PM (o36GC)

88 >>Estimated Prophet. The Dead.

Not bad for a semi-literate thug. I owe you one cookie. One. This isn't a charity.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:40 PM (viF8m)

89 Only problem with the family truckster photo is there's no dog dragging behind on a leash . . . . . . .

Posted by: LRob in OK at September 17, 2026 10:41 PM (Jr+re)

90 Mitch’s “Family Vacation”

Could be worse, it could be raining.

Posted by: MacRadDoc at September 17, 2026 10:41 PM (Gl2C6)

91 >> Imagine the poor scientist who would have been the one to insert the rectal thermometer to take a T-Rex's temp.

Jim! Grab that thermometer, I've got a job for you.

Posted by: Marlin Perkins at September 17, 2026 10:41 PM (w6EFb)

92 Tomorrow is first Christmas and I'm playing hooky all afternoon. Going to see the Newport Boat Show with some friends, oogle boats, eat lobster and drink rum. 3 things I absolutely excel at.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:19 PM (viF8m)

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Watch for a Jenneau 42. I may be in the market.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2026 10:42 PM (wpRMV)

93 57 Matthew Foldi
@MatthewFoldi
#ARSEN NEWS:
Arkansas Democrat Hallie Shoffner says on tape that she “would trade five Americans for one” illegal immigrant worker.

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Well, can I pick the five Americans and the illegal?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Hmmm, five fat, tatted up with face rings, purple-green hair, broads for a smokin' hot curvy latina babe. Well, ok. Deal.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 17, 2026 10:42 PM (v9vY1)

94 Of course T-Rex had a similar body temp. JEEZ!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 17, 2026 10:42 PM (jMB9H)

95 Had a good shop day today. Moved the dune buggy into the big shop; setting it aside to do other stuff for a while. Got the cam bearings installed in the Lark Six I am overhauling, and with the help of the Lark's owner, we got two portable generators started.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 10:42 PM (1z8ji)

96 If I'm not mistaken, Dr. Ben Carson, who had been in Trump's cabinet, was the first surgeon to separate twins conjoined at the head.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 17, 2026 10:44 PM (0Htd1)

97 I saw video of Mitch McConnell today.

He was conscious but not alert nor oriented. He was not responsive. He did not speak. He did not move his legs. He gave one random thumbs up.

This is not a well person. He most likely has suffered a series of ischemic accidents. He probably needs assistance with all activities of daily living including continuous medical supervision. I would say based on this his prognosis is poor.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:45 PM (RIvkX)

98 AOP
You never cease to amaze me😛!!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 17, 2026 10:46 PM (jMB9H)

99 >>Watch for a Jenneau 42. I may be in the market.

Not sure the model(s) but they have both power and sail at the show. I'll check it out.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:46 PM (viF8m)

100 100

Posted by: r hennigantx at September 17, 2026 10:47 PM (/+uur)

101 97 I saw video of Mitch McConnell today.

He was conscious but not alert nor oriented. He was not responsive. He did not speak. He did not move his legs. He gave one random thumbs up.

This is not a well person. He most likely has suffered a series of ischemic accidents. He probably needs assistance with all activities of daily living including continuous medical supervision. I would say based on this his prognosis is poor.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

beep

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 17, 2026 10:47 PM (v9vY1)

102
Tyrannosaurus Rex = Tyrant Lizard King.

Posted by: Marlin Perkins at September 17, 2026 10:47 PM (w6EFb)

103 Contractor has most of the flooring in, and some of the cabinets. Dude came to measure for the countertops today. I guess next week they do the door and window trim, maybe the base trim, and the electrician is coming out again to install the fixtures and finish the switching. Not sure when the dudes come with the propane tank, but it's getting cool out there at night. I don't think they will be done in two weeks, but I'm hopeful.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 17, 2026 10:47 PM (Ntshk)

104 That's why they made student interns. The hot coeds go to "professor's office hours", the young men receive exciting work opportunities in the live animal labs, IYKWIM.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 17, 2026 10:39 PM (iqcvy)

Hm. Sounds like the making of a blue movie.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 17, 2026 10:47 PM (1Ff7Z)

105 Of course T-Rex had a similar body temp. JEEZ!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 17, 2026 10:42 PM (jMB9H)

I am guessing that the temperature implied by the mineral makeup of the critter's teeth is a tad lower than the critter's core temperature, seeing as teeth are somewhat exposed to cooling outside air. But the delta between mouth temp and core temp is likely similar in modern-day large animals, so a core temp can be inferred.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 10:47 PM (1z8ji)

106 He was conscious but not alert nor oriented. He was not responsive. He did not speak. He did not move his legs. He gave one random thumbs up.

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Did he say "beep" or "beeeeeep"? There's a difference.

Posted by: Capt. Christopher Pike at September 17, 2026 10:48 PM (wpRMV)

107 This is not a well person. He most likely has suffered a series of ischemic accidents. He probably needs assistance with all activities of daily living including continuous medical supervision. I would say based on this his prognosis is poor.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:45 PM (RIvkX)

Biden shit my britches

Posted by: Mitch at September 17, 2026 10:48 PM (/+uur)

108 The wheel is turning and you can't slow down
You can't let go and you can't hold on
You can't go back and you can't stand still
If the thunder don't get you, then the lightning will

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:48 PM (RIvkX)

109 Yeah. Depeche Mode....nah...
Sorry Doof. Sometimes I wonder about you...but, then again, I'm an oldster....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 17, 2026 10:49 PM (jMB9H)

110 CoMM

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:50 PM (RIvkX)

111 This is not a well person. He most likely has suffered a series of ischemic accidents. He probably needs assistance with all activities of daily living including continuous medical supervision. I would say based on this his prognosis is poor.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:45 PM (RIvkX)

What is it with these walking corpses in Congress?

Then again, Mad Maxine has never been able to communicate clearly, so I guess they don't have to be mostly dead to be useless.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 17, 2026 10:50 PM (Ntshk)

112 MSN
China warns of space war after US confirms on-orbit weapons
China has warned of "war in outer space" after US officials confirmed for the first time that offensive, on-orbit space control weapons have been deployed.

USSF
♦ Intelligence suggests the PLA likely sees counterspace operations as means to deter and counter U.S. military intervention in a regional conflict. It is actively developing and fielding a wide range of counterspace capabilities.

China is the PACING CHALLENGE and is rapidly improving its space capabilities to TRACK & TARGET U.S. military forces. China & Russia are pursuing a wide range of counterspace capabilities to DISRUPT & DEGRADE U.S. space capabilities.

(Current as of July 2026)

https://tinyurl.com/yrd9rsaz

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 17, 2026 10:50 PM (VQ0bX)

113 The level of power these bitches hold is so great that Solomon would bow down.
The Senate is dead after the 17th Amendment destroyed the State (that was the purpose).
Who respents the State.
No one

Posted by: Mitch at September 17, 2026 10:52 PM (/+uur)

114 This is not a well person. He most likely has suffered a series of ischemic accidents. He probably needs assistance with all activities of daily living including continuous medical supervision. I would say based on this his prognosis is poor.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:45 PM (RIvkX)

He has better care than most elderly people around. He has a staff that tends to his every whim, security guards that keep him safe, and activities that keep him as mentally occupied as he's able (and would like) to be. That's why he didn't take the opportunity to retire early and try to stay in the Senate for what he knew would be his last semi-sentient term. If he retired six years ago, he would have been dead six days after he left the Senate chamber for the last time. Boxer and Feinstein were the same way. For them, home would never be as fun as the Senate.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 17, 2026 10:53 PM (0CU3H)

115 110 Psycho! Yikes!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 17, 2026 10:53 PM (jMB9H)

116 Cornell just announced Hassan Piker is bringing his act to Ithaca. Fun times ahead.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Out on the road for forty days
Last night in Ithaca put me in a haze
Sweet, sweet Connie and doing her act
She had the whole show and that's a natural fact!

We're an American Democrat Socialist

Posted by: Not Grand Funk Railroad at September 17, 2026 10:53 PM (wVcYX)

117 Boat shows. Oh, to dream.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 17, 2026 10:54 PM (VQ0bX)

118 If Paramount leaves L.A.that city will become Thunderdome in 2 years.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:54 PM (RIvkX)

119
Yep, that Chicom squawking confirms that's what all this is about. They're up to something.

Posted by: Marlin Perkins at September 17, 2026 10:55 PM (w6EFb)

120 For them, home would never be as fun as the Senate.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 17, 2026 10:53 PM (0CU3H)

I can't imagine the Senate is "fun."

Not my fault they didn't cultivate a home life. With all that money and all that power, they couldn't figure out how to live. Really would suck to be them.

FFS, take up knitting, or bonsai, or doing crossword puzzles with your grandkids.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 17, 2026 10:55 PM (Ntshk)

121 Thirteen of us got together for an early supper up today, ten of us having been in college together in the early seventies, plus a couple of outside spouses that have three or more decades with us. We do it two or three times a year.
And we are all barely 29+. It's odd.

Posted by: From about That Time at September 17, 2026 10:55 PM (sl73Y)

122 110 Psycho! Yikes!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 17, 2026 10:53 PM (jMB9H)
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Usually someone has offered you a drink and a seat by now and I felt badly.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:56 PM (RIvkX)

123 AOP
You never cease to amaze me😛!!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 17, 2026 10:46 PM (jMB9H)

I fixed my washing machine. Tomorrow I will figure out if I fixed it all the way, or just sort of all the way like last time.

Washing machines are interesting. It is like they were a spare moment doodle put together as a hobby by the techs fired by NASA before they found new work with SpaceX

Posted by: Kindltot at September 17, 2026 10:56 PM (rbvCR)

124 Also, I hate Califa, but don't fuck with the Marin. One of the few places I don't hate (but probably should).

Probably. Because they sure as hell hate you.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 17, 2026 10:57 PM (vTZFs)

125 Posted by: From about That Time at September 17, 2026 10:55 PM (sl73Y)
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*gingerly steps off lawn*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:57 PM (RIvkX)

126 Being a Senator is early retirement

with a super pension and superior medical care

if they cared about us we would have the same medical policy as they do

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 17, 2026 10:57 PM (VQ0bX)

127 Washing machines are interesting. It is like they were a spare moment doodle put together as a hobby by the techs fired by NASA before they found new work with SpaceX
Posted by: Kindltot at September 17, 2026 10:56 PM (rbvCR)

Top-loaders are pretty doggone simple. Motor-and-cam programming. Hard to have it go wrong.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 10:59 PM (1z8ji)

128 Marin is hard to describe. You have to experience the smug self-righteousness that comes with incredible wealth. And it gets hot.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 17, 2026 10:59 PM (RIvkX)

129 >> Boat shows. Oh, to dream.

Indeed.

And a great place to catch up with old friends and reminisce.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 11:00 PM (viF8m)

130 121 Thirteen of us got together for an early supper up today, ten of us having been in college together in the early seventies, plus a couple of outside spouses that have three or more decades with us. We do it two or three times a year.
And we are all barely 29+. It's odd.
Posted by: From about That Time at September 17, 2026 10:55 PM (sl73Y)

How fun!

We do Thanksgiving with a crowd that varies mightily by year. There is a core of folks who always attend, and then we collect strays. It's a blast.

We also do a fondue night for New Year's Eve. It's our wedding anniversary, and we do a late dinner (actually, we graze on it all evening) and then fireworks. There may also be shooting involved, and other forms of mayhem. Also a blast.

Folks we see often, and some only once a year. It's good for everyone.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 17, 2026 11:00 PM (Ntshk)

131 Watch for a Jenneau 42. I may be in the market.

I aspire to someday own a Sunfish that has been tied to somebody's garage rafters since they won it on The Price is Right in 1977.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 17, 2026 11:01 PM (vTZFs)

132 That fag?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at September 17, 2026 11:01 PM (wxsGM)

133 Top-loaders are pretty doggone simple. Motor-and-cam programming. Hard to have it go wrong.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 10:59 PM (1z8ji)

As I recall, Red Green repurposed his as a kiddie ride. Not sure that worked out so well.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 17, 2026 11:02 PM (Ntshk)

134 I can't drive that slowly on SOM ...
Posted by: browndog says woof at September 17, 2026 10:40 PM (oCio0)
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Pepper Pike cops ticket on SOM too

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 17, 2026 11:03 PM (q/gvN)

135 I aspire to someday own a Sunfish that has been tied to somebody's garage rafters since they won it on The Price is Right in 1977.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 17, 2026 11:01 PM (vTZFs)

Sailfish for me please ...

Who needs a foot cockpit anyway.

Posted by: browndog says woof at September 17, 2026 11:03 PM (oCio0)

136 Bill Gertz posted to social media on Wednesday that wild "rumors are flying" about Chinese leader Xi Jinping's health and a possible plot to oust him from power.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 17, 2026 11:04 PM (VQ0bX)

137 I aspire to someday own a Sunfish that has been tied to somebody's garage rafters since they won it on The Price is Right in 1977.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 17, 2026 11:01 PM (vTZFs)

I am trying to remember the name of the class of sailing dinghy that was all the rage when I was a yute in West Vancouver. Sabot, maybe? They were all over, races, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 11:04 PM (1z8ji)

138 “So the Chinese and the Russians have developed jammers and directed-energy weapons and cyber capabilities and ground-based anti-satellite missiles and satellites capable of maneuvering close to other satellites,” he continued. “And they’ve been practicing the ability to disrupt, disable, and destroy the space capabilities on which our military depends.”

“So let’s be real clear about what’s happening today,” Deptula (Retired U.S. Air Force Lt. Gen. David Deptula ) added. “The United States isn’t starting an arms race in space. We’re responding to one that’s already been underway.”
_theHill

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 17, 2026 11:07 PM (VQ0bX)

139 Pepper Pike cops ticket on SOM too
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 17, 2026 11:03 PM (q/gvN)

SOMs kinda like a free for all zone it seems ...

I would have lost my license just driving to school. Especially having to drive into Shaker for practices in the afternoon.

Posted by: browndog says woof at September 17, 2026 11:07 PM (oCio0)

140 122 San Franpsycho

I usually find some sticky, wobbly table in the back. The barkeep kinda feels bad for me, and brings me some kinda mystery fizzy drink....I love it here...(except for that moose out front😐

Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 17, 2026 11:07 PM (jMB9H)

141 Thanks for the ONT, Doof!

Wheel in the sky keeps on turning
Don't know where I'll be tomorrow...

Posted by: JQ at September 17, 2026 11:07 PM (rdVOm)

142 I am trying to remember the name of the class of sailing dinghy that was all the rage when I was a yute in West Vancouver. Sabot, maybe? They were all over, races, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 11:04 PM (1z8ji)

Lightnings ?

Posted by: browndog says woof at September 17, 2026 11:08 PM (oCio0)

143 Xi Jinping's health and a possible plot to oust him from power.
Posted by: Braenyard

Probably got stuck in a honey pot.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 17, 2026 11:08 PM (NnhvP)

144 Hmmm. Could this tie together the top photo and a major topic tonight? Let's see.

https://youtu.be/e5MAg_yWsq8

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at September 17, 2026 11:09 PM (qx7Zg)

145 Here's your fizzy drink, COMM!

Let me put a napkin down first, so it doesn't stick to the table. Poor girl...

Posted by: JQ at September 17, 2026 11:10 PM (rdVOm)

146 OK youz guys...
Tonight’s mission: survive the journey from the couch to the bed.
Good night pals!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 17, 2026 11:10 PM (jMB9H)

147 >>I aspire to someday own a Sunfish that has been tied to somebody's garage rafters since they won it on The Price is Right in 1977.

One of the guys I used to sail with is a multi time Sunfish world champion. He moved back to St Croix where he grew up. He invented a new way to rig a Sunfish that made him really fast. The Jen's rig.

You can find used Sunfishes around here for short money. Great boats. Easy to sail and never get old no matter how skilled you get.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 11:11 PM (viF8m)

148 O God, ease our suffering in this, our moment of great dispair. Yea, admit this good and decent senator into thine arms in the flock in thine heavenly area, up there. And Moab, he laid its down by the band of the Canaanites, and yea, though the Hindus speak of karma, I implore you: give him... give him a break.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 17, 2026 11:12 PM (5C90x)

149 My sister had a fast as shit little sailboat, a step up from a Sunfish.
A Zuma,.I think. Fun to sail. Kind of like a Laser size.

Posted by: From about That Time at September 17, 2026 11:12 PM (sl73Y)

150 I am trying to remember the name of the class of sailing dinghy that was all the rage when I was a yute in West Vancouver. Sabot, maybe? They were all over, races, too

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Sabot

Laser

Lido

Sunfish (for those into the lateen rig)

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2026 11:13 PM (wpRMV)

151 Lightnings ?
Posted by: browndog says woof at September 17, 2026 11:08 PM (oCio0)

No, Sabot is it. Design has been around since 1946. Hard-chine pram, cat-rigged, with a leeboard or dagger-board.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 11:14 PM (1z8ji)

152

143 Xi Jinping's health and a possible plot to oust him from power.
Posted by: Braenyard

Probably got stuck in a honey pot.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 17, 2026 11:08 PM

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Oh, bother...

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 17, 2026 11:15 PM (t1fZA)

153 As I recall, Red Green repurposed his as a kiddie ride. Not sure that worked out so well.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 17, 2026 11:02 PM (Ntshk)

I saw one that was rebuilt to act as an apple grinder and a juice extractor under spin cycle. It did not look efficient and I suspect every ounce of juice it spun out tasted like old laundry detergent, but it was a clever idea.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 17, 2026 11:15 PM (rbvCR)

154 I saw video of Mitch McConnell today.

He was conscious but not alert nor oriented. He was not responsive. He did not speak. He did not move his legs. He gave one random thumbs up.

This is not a well person. He most likely has suffered a series of ischemic accidents. He probably needs assistance with all activities of daily living including continuous medical supervision. I would say based on this his prognosis is poor.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
.......

But man can he vote!

Posted by: wth at September 17, 2026 11:16 PM (oq9dX)

155 I had a good shop day too. Last week, power went out for 4 hours. Went out to start my generator-no dice. It's a ten year old inverter type. First time it failed me. Figured it was the carb, but ordered a new generator anyway. Also ordered a carb. Disassembly of the enclosed type is a pain, but I installed the new carb and it runs perfectly. Now I have 2.
The open frame generators are much easier to service, but are much louder. It's worth the hassle for the quietness.
Can't afford to be without a generator here on the NC Coast

Posted by: Generatin' Like Mad at September 17, 2026 11:16 PM (Fn+3X)

156 145 JQ!
You are a true treasure!!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 17, 2026 11:17 PM (jMB9H)

157 >>Lightnings ?

My folks had both a Blue Jay and a Lightning when they were first married.

Sparkman & Stephens designed some great boats.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 11:17 PM (viF8m)

158 Wow, JackStraw! The Sunfish looks so much like the little sailboat my dad built when I was a child! We all learned to sail it, long before we could drive.

Wish I had it-- it now belongs to my older bro, who likely will never use it and will never let any of us *other kids* have it. Sad.

Posted by: JQ at September 17, 2026 11:17 PM (rdVOm)

159 But man can he vote!
Posted by: wth at September 17, 2026 11:16 PM (oq9dX)

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DING DING DING DING

Posted by: Hector Salamanca at September 17, 2026 11:17 PM (wpRMV)

160 Configuring my Proxmox Hypervisor and having some bourbon and sour patch gummies, I'm off tomorrow so I may be up all night.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 17, 2026 11:18 PM (XV/Pl)

161 Peter Navarro has a new book out called Why Fauci MUST Rot in Prison

It is a combination of Fauci's diaries, countering clinical facts against Fauci's press releases, and a discussion of the laws and what the charges against Fauci should look like in the Florida courts.

It publishes October 13, 2026

Posted by: Kindltot at September 17, 2026 11:20 PM (rbvCR)

162 to carve out some time to go check out the new trawlers.
Posted by: JackStraw

That's not what we used to call them...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 17, 2026 11:20 PM (NnhvP)

163 The Art Deco Movement had beautiful decoration, gold leaf, sculpture, etc. WWII killed it. No artist commissions during the war and what emerged after was the International Style with nearly no ornamentation. Think the relatively ugly UN Complex in NY. Boring, flat. When I see the ugly green marble of the General Assembly behind someone speaking, I know we're about to get hosed.

Posted by: Give Turtle Bay Back To The Turtles! at September 17, 2026 11:21 PM (Fn+3X)

164 Happy Thursday Horde!

Stick around COMM, I'll have a drink with you, so long as JQ is still on the bar.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 17, 2026 11:21 PM (ibDUx)

165 Scituate Yacht club had a fleet of Sabots when I was a kid . I'd be trying to row my skiff across their race course to the mud flats and they'd get all pissed off.

Posted by: From about That Time at September 17, 2026 11:21 PM (sl73Y)

166 Hi, Debby!

*pours Chivas*

Set a spell...

Posted by: JQ at September 17, 2026 11:22 PM (rdVOm)

167 Now do Maxine.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 17, 2026 11:24 PM (2Ez/1)

168 >>Wow, JackStraw! The Sunfish looks so much like the little sailboat my dad built when I was a child! We all learned to sail it, long before we could drive.

They're so much fun and were super popular when I was a kid. Not surprised your dad built one, the boat inspired lots of copies.

And used ones are often pretty cheap. I've been thinking of picking one up myself. A bad day sailing is still a pretty damn good day.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 11:24 PM (viF8m)

169 162 to carve out some time to go check out the new trawlers.
Posted by: JackStraw

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Trawlers are kind of stodgy, aren't they? Is Grand Banks still around?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2026 11:25 PM (wpRMV)

170 Now do Maxine.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

Not with Bill Clinton's dick.

Posted by: mikeski at September 17, 2026 11:26 PM (VHUov)

171 164 {{{DDS}}}
I'll give it my best! Good to see you sweet girl!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 17, 2026 11:26 PM (jMB9H)

172 Good gosh, working these customer care phones has been exhausting!

Posted by: Piper at September 17, 2026 11:27 PM (ZdaMQ)

173 A bad day sailing is still a pretty damn good day.
Posted by: JackStraw

True. I miss those days. Even the day that one guy on a Hobie Cat was *literally* running circles around me! I was just having fun on the lake.

Posted by: JQ at September 17, 2026 11:28 PM (rdVOm)

174
Good evening, all.

I drove by Paramount Studios today! That area of town is trash. Everything barred up, weedy sidewalks. But you can see that beautiful Art Deco style out front and some of the interior buildings, which are Historical Buildings in their own right. TMZ says the departure is happening. 65 acres comes available in a yucky area of town. With Bass's aptitude for development, it should be a kingdom for pests and vandals in no time.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 17, 2026 11:29 PM (mmrXZ)

175 Good gosh, working these customer care phones has been exhausting!
Posted by: Piper at September 17, 2026 11:27 PM (ZdaMQ)

You need a large dog to act as your supervisor, to bark back at the AWFLs.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at September 17, 2026 11:29 PM (qx7Zg)

176 we are saved. The danger AI poses is going to be solved.
It is being reported that Sean Penn, Ben Stiller are to join AI Oversight Advisory Committee.

The only way this could be more fake is if it were fake.
I did, however, get to watch Sean Penn at Hugo Chavez' funeral looking very sad, so who knows. Maybe this is not fake and is merely fake.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 17, 2026 11:29 PM (rbvCR)

177 172 Piper

You're doing a fine job🤪!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 17, 2026 11:29 PM (jMB9H)

178 I drove by Paramount Studios today! That area of town is trash. Everything barred up, weedy sidewalks. But you can see that beautiful Art Deco style out front and some of the interior buildings, which are Historical Buildings in their own right.

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How is the Hollywood Forever Cemetery? It's right down the street. It was always a great free date.

"Wanna see Joey Ramone's grave monument?"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2026 11:31 PM (wpRMV)

179 And used ones are often pretty cheap. I've been thinking of picking one up myself. A bad day sailing is still a pretty damn good day.
Posted by: JackStraw at

Been over two years since I put my kayak in the water. Bought but never used a little hand sail for it. Figured if played the wind and tide right, I could paddle down Narragansett Bay a few miles, then take an easy ride back.
Still a plan.

Posted by: From about That Time at September 17, 2026 11:31 PM (sl73Y)

180 MTV Unplugged has some of the best music out there.

Too bad MTV abandoned music. It was freaking amazing in the 80s and 90s and early 00s.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 17, 2026 11:31 PM (yEz+x)

181 177 thank you COMM!

Posted by: Piper at September 17, 2026 11:32 PM (ZdaMQ)

182 Abandoned plans for a city across from San Francisco.

_______________________

If they start from scratch and go through the process again, I'm tempted to be very spiteful and vindictive. I figure if a spend a couple hours in the approved area, I can find some inconsequential wildlife and build it up into some species that requires our protection.

"No no no....you can't build here. You'd be interfering iwth the mating season of the Gold Rose Tortricid Moth".

Call me petty, but that would be so damn satisfying to do, just for kicks and giggles.

Posted by: Orson at September 17, 2026 11:32 PM (dIske)

183 >>Trawlers are kind of stodgy, aren't they? Is Grand Banks still around?

I'm kind of stodgy.

Grand Banks is absolutely still around and building gorgeous yachts. They'll have at least one yacht at the show.

We called that kind of powerboat trawlers, not as a slur, just cause that's what we called cruising powerboats. Just a habit. It's where old sailors go when they get too old to pull strings. That's why Hinckley and other started building power boats.

This is a great cruising area with the islands and other popular ports and there are tons of those boats around here.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 11:34 PM (viF8m)

184 "No no no....you can't build here. You'd be interfering iwth the mating season of the Gold Rose Tortricid Moth".

Call me petty, but that would be so damn satisfying to do, just for kicks and giggles.
Posted by: Orson at September 17, 2026 11:32 PM (dIske)

Breeding grounds of the Greater Invisible Stoat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 11:34 PM (1z8ji)

185 I thought a trawler yacht was a displacement-hull power yacht patterned after the fishing boats of the same name.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 11:36 PM (1z8ji)

186 There is three miles of stop lights on every corner and a speed limit of 35.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Not during rush hour.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at September 17, 2026 11:36 PM (Fv808)

187 >>Been over two years since I put my kayak in the water. Bought but never used a little hand sail for it. Figured if played the wind and tide right, I could paddle down Narragansett Bay a few miles, then take an easy ride back.
Still a plan.

If you figure out how to get all the way down the bay, I'll take you and your kayak home. Buy you a beer before we go too.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 11:37 PM (viF8m)

188 My brother in law had a laser I got to sail around off Prudence Island. Fun boat. He took me out, capsized a few times and made me right the boat and sail on.

Then I got to go out by myself.

It was cathartic. Awesome. So very fun. Empowering.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 17, 2026 11:38 PM (yEz+x)

189 If I was of a mind to have a power boat, I'd get one of those sleek Riviera express cruisers. A 63 footer would be nice.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2026 11:39 PM (wpRMV)

190 When I first started learning about archeology and the past, I was amazed by these ruins of great cities that were now just fields of broken walls, hone only to the fixes and the scorpion. How could such thing happen, I wondered? Why would everyone just leave a place that so much work had gone into?

Now I am watching the process happen in real time, and I begin to understand.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 17, 2026 11:41 PM (sTKQb)

191 188 My brother in law had a laser I got to sail around off Prudence Island. Fun boat. He took me out, capsized a few times and made me right the boat and sail on.

Then I got to go out by myself.

It was cathartic. Awesome. So very fun. Empowering.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 17, 2026 11:38 PM (yEz+x)

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Nothing is more fun than hiking out so far your hair is literally in the water.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2026 11:43 PM (wpRMV)

192 Now I am watching the process happen in real time, and I begin to understand.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 17, 2026 11:41 PM (sTKQb)

You can leave, but you cannot take it with you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 11:43 PM (1z8ji)

193 That is a really cool top photo, Doof.

Posted by: tankdemon at September 17, 2026 11:43 PM (2RJDy)

194 That is a really cool top photo, Doof.
Posted by: tankdemon at September 17, 2026 11:43 PM (2RJDy)

Amazingly, the neutron burst from the warhead did not fog the negative.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2026 11:45 PM (1z8ji)

195 I'm a city slicker but my father took me to boat shows when I was a kid.

Never been sailing, though.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 17, 2026 11:46 PM (JyZwj)

196 Watched a ewetoob series by a couple who sailed the seas in a trawler. Unless you really want to cross the ocean one can have just as much fun in a smaller boat.
They were always working on that thing.
But they loved it.
Talk about burning cash.
I should have learned to sail.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 17, 2026 11:47 PM (VQ0bX)

197 >>My brother in law had a laser I got to sail around off Prudence Island. Fun boat. He took me out, capsized a few times and made me right the boat and sail on.

Elvis and I watched some of the NYYC Women's International Championships today. Two more days of racing. They race Swan IC37s owned by the New York Yacht Club. Good sailors. For girls.

Just kidding. Don't shoot me.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 11:48 PM (viF8m)

198 >> Why would everyone just leave a place that so much work had gone into?

Climate change. How dare you.

Posted by: Greta at September 17, 2026 11:48 PM (w6EFb)

199 Biden's Dog, I hope that you are feeling better.

Piper, it is way past your bedtime!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 17, 2026 11:49 PM (ibDUx)

200 Not Swan IC37.

The IC37s replaced the Swans. Sheesh.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 11:50 PM (viF8m)

201 Biden's Dog, I hope that you are feeling better.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 17, 2026 11:49 PM (ibDUx)
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Thanks. First day since Tuesday of a decent sleep and feeling semi-normal. Doc prescribed knock-out antibiotics yesterday morning. They always do the trick.

Planning to actually step outside today but nothing strenuous.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 17, 2026 11:52 PM (JyZwj)

202 195 I'm a city slicker but my father took me to boat shows when I was a kid.

Never been sailing, though.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 17, 2026 11:46 PM (JyZwj)

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If it makes you feel any better, the Mycenaean Greeks pretty much rowed everywhere.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2026 11:52 PM (wpRMV)

203 62 "Well, can I pick the five Americans and the illegal?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks"

How about The Squad for a Mexican weathergirl?

Posted by: Ripley at September 17, 2026 10:27 PM (PTDkx

Reason 4386 to love this place.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's phone) at September 17, 2026 11:52 PM (QGaXH)

204 oogle boats, eat lobster and drink rum. 3 things I absolutely excel at.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 17, 2026 10:19

It's nice when one's talents and ambitions in life coincide so well.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at September 17, 2026 11:53 PM (4Qj8V)

205
How is the Hollywood Forever Cemetery? It's right down the street.

Posted by: Cicero

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Behind bars, like everything else in that area.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 17, 2026 11:53 PM (mmrXZ)

206
Behind bars, like everything else in that area.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

That's where Karen Bass should be.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 17, 2026 11:55 PM (Cqx++)

207 This is a great cruising area with the islands and other popular ports and there are tons of those boats around here.

Posted by: JackStraw
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Your area and further north are probably the best areas in the Americas for what they call shanty boats. There are Utubes of couples with, they call them shanty boat but they are attractive, and comfortable, perfect for sailing those inlets which are gorgeous and everywhere.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 17, 2026 11:55 PM (VQ0bX)

208 Good evening, Horde. My dad built pleasure boats, F and C class racing boats and their motors. I could change a prop or whole lower unit by age 10.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 17, 2026 11:59 PM (+fpfy)

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