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The Eternal Op Continues: "25 years after 9/11, many Muslims fear a new backlash"

The Real Victims of 9/11 were Muslims.

Just like the Real Victims of the conquests of Spain, Constantinople, and the Balkans were the Muslims.


The morning of Sept. 11, 2001, began like any other day. Sabinah Mohyuddin was getting her kids ready for school in Clarksville, Tennessee, while her husband, a cancer physician, was still asleep.

Then the first plane struck the north tower of the World Trade Center in New York City.

"I remember when it happened, because my husband always put his alarm to National Public Radio," she said. "He came running out shouting, 'Turn on the TV!'"

It wasn't clear whether the first strike was intentional. After dropping her kids off, Mohyuddin watched in horror as a second plane crashed into the south tower.

She and the rest of the nation waited in petrified anticipation for answers about who was behind the attack that killed nearly 3,000 people.

Then Mohyuddin, a Muslim, learned the hijakers also followed Islam.

"It fell on me like a heavy weight," she said. "What did this mean for the Muslim community? What did this mean for me?"

Making it all about you, and not even hiding it.


Now, 25 years after the attacks, Muslims across the country are asking the same question as they experience rising Islamophobia and concerns about their First Amendment right to religious freedom.

Over 40% of U.S. adults believe Muslims are less patriotic than other Americans and that Muslim Americans are having a negative impact on the country, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in May.

Obviously far-right racists. There is no reason to think that there is an intense anti-American, anti-Western, and anti-Jewish strain in Islam, except, you know, for all the terrorist attacks and constant verbal attacks on the west.

But other than that -- no evidence. Must be racism.


The stigmatization, often amplified by politicians, has affected everything from immigration statuses to due process rights and everyday religious practices. Muslim leaders and community members, in turn, told the USA TODAY Network they're left fighting to defend their faith and warning the nation that its founding principles are at stake.

"Being Muslim doesn't make me less American," Salam Jabaieh, a Muslim woman from Arizona, said. "Those things are part of who I am, and I shouldn't have to make myself less visible or less Muslim in order to prove I belong here."


In the days after 9/11, then-President George W. Bush made public statements defending Islam and differentiating the faith from the attack.

He quoted from the Quran and said "Islam is peace" during remarks at the Islamic Center of Washington, DC. Bush also met with Islamic leaders, including Nihad Awad, national executive director and co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. CAIR was established in 1994 and is the country's largest Muslim civil liberties organization.

Though Awad disagreed with many of Bush's policy positions, he told USA TODAY he saw "sincerity" and "openness" from Bush, a desire for unity amid the devastation.

But the violence that plagued Muslims and mosques in the days and years after 9/11 stood in stark contrast to those sentiments.

The first 9/11-linked hate crime came just a few days later, when an Arizona man murdered Balbir Singh Sodhi, a Sikh man who wore a turban the shooter interpreted as a sign he adhered to Islam. Muslims were killed in attacks that family members and advocacy groups tied to the spike in Islamophobia. A number of mosques were also burned to the ground or severely damaged in arson fires.

Note there are no numbers mentioned here. "Muslims" -- no number given -- "were killed in attacks." "A number of mosques" were damaged in fires.

How many?

Not many at all, or else you'd tell us the numbers.

By the way, a lot of churches are burning lately and the media doesn't seem to think that's a sign of rising ant-Christian animus.

Now comes the media's "Bush was a good man tryin' his best but Trump is a monster turn:"

But Muslim leaders described a notable shift when President Donald Trump launched his presidential campaign in 2015. He initiated what became known as the "Muslim ban" during his first term and has taken similar action since returning to office.

Federal authorities have arrested and sought to deport pro-Palestinian activists, actions that judges have deemed a First Amendment violation.

"Activists." Members of the Muslim Brotherhood openly calling for violence against Jews and Americans.


Some Republican leaders also have used rhetoric and pushed policies that have come under criticism by Muslim Americans and others. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott designated CAIR a terrorist group in 2025, which initially excluded a number of Islamic schools from a state-sponsored voucher program because of perceived affiliation with the organization, according to a lawsuit. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis also issued the designation, which a federal judge struck down in March.

Such action by governors has had a trickle-down effect on local municipalities and school boards, according to Adam Abutaa, of the Muslim civic engagement organization Emgage Florida. Muslim students are less likely to feel they can freely express themselves on their campuses or to their elected officials, he said.

Really? Muslims feel they can't fully express themselves on campus?

We've seen Jews beaten by Muslims on campus. They want to "express themselves" further than that?


Saajid Khan, a 21-year-old University of South Florida student, echoed those sentiments. He was one of several students who were praying in a parking garage on campus in November 2025 when several men disrupted them, shouting profanities and taunting them with bacon − a forbidden food in Islam. The men were later charged over the incident.

"I think there's a lot of propaganda pushed against Muslims, which leads to an unsafe environment," Khan said.

There's a single incident of Muslims being "taunted with bacon."

How many incidents are there of non-Muslims being taunted with bullets and explosives?

Stephen Kruiser:

The number of Americans who are dishonoring those killed by Islamic terrorists on Sept. 11, 2001 is tragic and abominable. This is from a VIP post Catherine wrote over the weekend:

My colleague Robert Spencer, an expert in Islamic history and modern jihad movements, says that there have been 49,000 Islamic jihad attacks since the 9/11 attacks in 2001. And yet only 25 years after those attacks, with nearly 50,000 terrorist incidents attributable to Islam in the time period, New York has a Muslim mayor and Americans in all 50 states claim to support Palestinian terrorists. We even have U.S. administrations funding jihadi regimes and removing terror designations from Syrian mass murderers. It's insane.

Insane and heartbreaking.

There was a brief time of unity back in 2001 that has been followed up by a quarter-century of American leftists being apologists for Islam. They're either rabid supporters of jihadi murderers or dealing with a case of mass denial the likes of which has never been seen in history. The leftists' responses to Islamic terror attacks have become routine sick jokes. We're constantly told that motives are "unclear" when "Allahu Akbar!" was the last thing people heard before they were killed. If you're sane and mention that there just might be a pattern, they all start barking "Timothy McVeigh" like trained seals.


I frequently write about the fact that American leftists live in an alternate, fictional reality. One of the biggest fictions that they peddle is that Islamic terrorism isn't a problem, but the white Christians are a powder keg that's ready to blow. It's wearisome and dangerous. When Democrats are in charge, they're never looking for the real bad guys.

In another VIP post from last weekend, Robert wrote about what we can expect from the lunatic left this week:


Friday, September 11 will be the 25th anniversary of the jihad attacks that took the lives of nearly 3,000 people in New York City, Washington, D.C., and Pennsylvania, and the far left's propaganda arm, the establishment media, is already hard at work repeating the lesson that leftists want us to take away from this grim milestone: It was all our fault. And now, "Islamophobia" is worse than ever, underscoring the left's second big takeaway from 9/11: Muslims were the real victims.

Nick Sortor
@nicksortor

49m

🚨 WOW! 9/11 families are on the steps of NYC city hall DEMANDING Mayor Mamdani stay FAR AWAY from the 25th anniversary ceremony on Friday

"Dude, we DO NOT want you to come," a victim's daughter, who was nine years old when her father was kiIIed, said

"It is today that he stands with people like Hassan Piker. It is today that he hires people like Ramzi Kassem. It is today that he stands with an imam that was a CO-CONSPIRATOR of the '93 bombing. THAT is what we object to."

Zohran Mamdani wants to spike the football in the end zone.

Overton
@overton_news

17m

The Catholic League President Bill Donohue just took NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani to the woodshed in front of a crowd...and it was BRUTAL.

Donohue said Mamdani is more concerned about "Islamophobia" than he is about the death of 3,000 innocent Americans.

Whoa.

DONOHUE: "Thank you, Bill Donohue, President of Catholic League."

"On that fateful day, 9/11, I looked out my window on 34th Street and 7th Avenue and saw the twin towers go down."

"I'm a veteran, United States veteran, I don't have a lot to say about Zohran Mamdani."

"He should not be here. I wrote him a letter on August 3rd...explaining why he is such a divisive figure."

"He said that 'something happened' on 9/11."

"I'll tell you what happened...radical Muslims came in here to bomb the United States of America."

"I don't say Muslims, because that's wrong. I'm talking about radical Muslims."

"He can't bring himself to say that!"

"He is more concerned about Islamophobia than he is the death of 3,000 people, innocent people, on that day."

"This man is a disgrace to veterans, and believe me, as a Catholic, we contacted NYPD, FDNY and Port Authority a year later...85 to 90% of first responders who were murdered, they were Catholic."

"And we stand with our Jewish brothers and sisters against the likes of Hasan Piker, who says nothing but good things about the Houthis, Hezbollah and Hamas."

"It's a disgrace!"

"Mamdani, do us all a favor and just stay home."

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:24 PM




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1 Yep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 02:24 PM (mqudn)

2 Norm understood just how stupid suicidal empathy is.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 08, 2026 02:25 PM (N1tpc)

3 It'd be nice if there was some backlash.

Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at September 08, 2026 02:27 PM (jBygX)

4 All muslims want us infidels dead.

The "moderate" ones just don't want to take the risk to try.

But they're happy to let the "extreme" musselmen kill you.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 08, 2026 02:27 PM (N1tpc)

5 Does NY have recall provisions?

Posted by: clarence at September 08, 2026 02:28 PM (311fa)

6 America is systemically racist against Muslims, and Muslims should flee and fear for their lives.

They should flee to Iran where the caliphate is due to finally form.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:28 PM (qE8uT)

7 this is an absurd retelling of history. Bush went to war with Muslim countries. He was the great Satan for decades. Trump hardly mentioned Islam in his first term aside from not liking us dumping billions of dollars on them.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 08, 2026 02:28 PM (uhVAy)

8 "If you're sane and mention that there just might be a pattern, they all start barking "Timothy McVeigh" like trained seals."

Funny they mention Timothy McVeigh.

Raise your hand if you now have doubts about his involvement in the terror attack?

[Raises hand]

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 02:28 PM (iFTx/)

9 7 this is an absurd retelling of history. Bush went to war with Muslim countries. He was the great Satan for decades. Trump hardly mentioned Islam in his first term aside from not liking us dumping billions of dollars on them.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 08, 2026 02:28 PM (uhVAy)

======

Trump destroyed ISIS.

And everyone forgot about it.

Also, his actions to destroy ISIS were deeply unpopular at the time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:28 PM (qE8uT)

10 Pershing

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at September 08, 2026 02:28 PM (wxsGM)

11 This bacon-taunting business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 08, 2026 02:29 PM (guGkK)

12 Note there are no numbers mentioned here. "Muslims" -- no number given -- "were killed in attacks." "A number of mosques" were damaged in fires.

How many?

Not many at all, or else you'd tell us the numbers.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:24 PM

Well, it'll look really bad when they say the number was 19.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 08, 2026 02:29 PM (N1tpc)

13 El Sayed is a dwarf, isn't he? Everybody he stands next to tower over him. Little man syndrome.

Posted by: Frank Barone at September 08, 2026 02:29 PM (OkYzo)

14 We had three Muslims at my high school when I was a senior in 02...there was one girl who got expelled because she "forged" her mom's signature on a permission slip to compete in a math Olympiad. Her dad was against her going because it was a coed overnight trip to baton rouge. But the hotel rooms were single sex and divided by floors. I felt so sorry for her. I still feel like her mom signed it but denied it when her dad found out.

Posted by: mishdog at September 08, 2026 02:29 PM (NAjYa)

15 I hope it makes the American Muslim community nervous. They should self-deport now back to their Muslim countries of origin, before we have to start playing "Cowboys and Muslims."

Their "religion" (really a mixture of religion, archaic legal system, misogyny, and military doctrine of conquest) is totally incompatible with Western and US Constitutional values. There can be no coexistance within the same borders, and maybe not even with different borders.

Posted by: ruralcounsel at September 08, 2026 02:29 PM (u9OdC)

16 Raise your hand if you now have doubts about his involvement in the terror attack?

[Raises hand]
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Sure was executed quick.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 08, 2026 02:30 PM (mqudn)

17 A riot is a terrible thing, but I think it’s about time we had one.

Posted by: Eromero at September 08, 2026 02:30 PM (LHPAg)

18 Won't anyone think of the goatfuckers?!

Posted by: Heavy Meta at September 08, 2026 02:30 PM (cJ8nD)

19 Now, 25 years after the attacks, Muslims across the country are asking the same question as they experience rising Islamophobia and concerns about their First Amendment right to religious freedom.

I would beg to differ. There is no such thing as secularism with Islam. Because of poorly understood and misinterpreted 1A rulings, Christians have had to erect a wall between the secular and the sacred. Islam is a religion/cult, a culture and more.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 08, 2026 02:30 PM (N39Ws)

20 It fell on me like a heavy weight"

Clearly not heavy enough...

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 02:30 PM (cGjQu)

21 We had three Muslims at my high school when I was a senior in 02...there was one girl who got expelled because she "forged" her mom's signature on a permission slip to compete in a math Olympiad. Her dad was against her going because it was a coed overnight trip to baton rouge. But the hotel rooms were single sex and divided by floors. I felt so sorry for her. I still feel like her mom signed it but denied it when her dad found out.
Posted by: mishdog

Well, algebra is a JOOOOish plot, you know.

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 02:31 PM (77rzZ)

22 4 All muslims want us infidels dead.

The "moderate" ones just don't want to take the risk to try.

But they're happy to let the "extreme" musselmen kill you.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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Eh, people vary in religious faith but any 'moderates' know that they are put on the death list if they speak out against the radicals. A far stronger version social and political ostracizing than the black community has had for not voting Democrat. And that is effective enough that blacks have voted 85-90 percent en bloc for Democrats since at least the LBJ era.

And Labour UK is finding out that when giving a choice between a full blown Muslim or one posing as a moderate candidate for Labour, Muslim majority districts will go for the uncloaked candidate.

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 02:31 PM (E4rtv)

23 It fell on me like a heavy weight"

Clearly not heavy enough...
Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 02:30 PM (cGjQu)


We have a website.

Posted by: The ACME Anvil Company at September 08, 2026 02:32 PM (guGkK)

24 1. There will be no new backlash. There wasn't an old backlash. People know Muslims are insane and violent and are scared of them. What would a "backlash" look like? Some Christians or Jews taunting a Muslim, and then he pulls out a knife and stabs them?

2. Muslims are more likely to greet the 25th anniversary of 9-11 by carrying out terror attacks than they are to face any backlash.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 02:32 PM (iFTx/)

25 "It fell on me like a heavy weight"

Like the weight of 100 floors of concrete and steel falling.

Posted by: gp at September 08, 2026 02:33 PM (Jr5Lq)

26 7 this is an absurd retelling of history. Bush went to war with Muslim countries. He was the great Satan for decades. Trump hardly mentioned Islam in his first term aside from not liking us dumping billions of dollars on them.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Any media retelling of history consists of lies, damned lies, and statistics. H/T Mark Twain.

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 02:33 PM (E4rtv)

27 The headline should read "Tribal goons who are constantly provoking a fight fear they might get one." Yeah. Four OIF deployments later, here I am.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 08, 2026 02:33 PM (KnlAB)

28 >Their "religion" (really a mixture of religion, archaic legal system, misogyny, and military doctrine of conquest) is totally incompatible with Western and US Constitutional values. There can be no coexistance within the same borders, and maybe not even with different borders.

Posted by: ruralcounsel at September 08, 2026 02:29 PM (u9OdC)

You mean a 7th century death cult isn't incompatible with Western culture. The hell you say!

Posted by: Heavy Meta at September 08, 2026 02:34 PM (cJ8nD)

29 25 years later, and Zohran Mamdani’s Aunt still can't feel safe riding the subway!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at September 08, 2026 02:34 PM (PkrKm)

30 Islam et Spheniscidae delenda est

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 08, 2026 02:34 PM (0sNs1)

31 8 "If you're sane and mention that there just might be a pattern, they all start barking "Timothy McVeigh" like trained seals."

Funny they mention Timothy McVeigh.

Raise your hand if you now have doubts about his involvement in the terror attack?

[Raises hand]
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 02:28 PM (iFTx/)

I have significant doubts regarding the official narrative, that's for certain.

Posted by: Not that it matters at this point at September 08, 2026 02:34 PM (TbWk/)

32
The Japanese were ruthless to our American/Allies taken prisoner. War crimes were committed. Socially the Japanese were a pariah. 30 years after the war we as a nation were buying up every car they were producing, and a lot of stuff was coming in from Japan.

Posted by: Frank Barone at September 08, 2026 02:34 PM (OkYzo)

33 25 "It fell on me like a heavy weight"

Like the weight of 100 floors of concrete and steel falling.
Posted by: gp

Just like a toon.

Posted by: Eddie Valiant at September 08, 2026 02:35 PM (PkrKm)

34 32
The Japanese were ruthless to our American/Allies taken prisoner. War crimes were committed. Socially the Japanese were a pariah. 30 years after the war we as a nation were buying up every car they were producing, and a lot of stuff was coming in from Japan.

Posted by: Frank Barone at September 08, 2026 02:34 PM (OkYzo)

========

"No wonder it doesn't work. Look, 'Made in Japan.'"
-Doc Brown

"What are you talking about, Doc? All the best stuff is made in Japan."
-Marty McFly

It's from a documentary about the 1950s I saw once.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:35 PM (qE8uT)

35 "There was a brief time of unity back in 2001 that has been followed up by a quarter-century of American leftists being apologists for Islam."
________

Even the brief unity was due solely to the attacks being in NY and DC. Had they been in Texas, the leftists would have immediately been saying the crackers had it coming.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 08, 2026 02:35 PM (XvL8K)

36
All muslims want us infidels dead.

The "moderate" ones just don't want to take the risk to try.

But they're happy to let the "extreme" musselmen kill you.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 08, 2026 02:27 PM (N1tpc)




"Moderate" mohammedans are just reloading... or trying to get their rusty Kalashnikovs to cycle because like most mohammedans, they don't understand advanced technology.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2026 02:35 PM (y9nCu)

37 College age kids were not born when 9/11 happened and many have not been taught/exposed to the devastation and horror of that day or the many days afterwards. Islamicist running for office know this and use to their advantage.

Posted by: Cheri at September 08, 2026 02:35 PM (oiNtH)

38 The only solace I have about this nation falling , and it won't, is that the simps on the left, including the propaganda ministries would be the first lined up and shot.
Look at what Khomeini did to the communists who were so happy the Shah was overthrown

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 08, 2026 02:35 PM (v6vok)

39 I have significant doubts regarding the official narrative, that's for certain.
Posted by: Not that it matters at this point

What happened to the other guy who was supposedly McVeigh's accomplice?

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 02:35 PM (77rzZ)

40 "Their "religion" (really a mixture of religion, archaic legal system, misogyny, and military doctrine of conquest) is totally incompatible with Western and US Constitutional values."

I assume (guess) that it is the Constitution that prevents us from expelling all Muslims from the country.

Posted by: gp at September 08, 2026 02:36 PM (Jr5Lq)

41 Both hands raised

Posted by: Billythesquid at September 08, 2026 02:36 PM (pUTfs)

42 It's from a documentary about the 1950s I saw once.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:35 PM

Which means pre-Prometheus, and therefore of little regard.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 08, 2026 02:37 PM (0sNs1)

43 Earlier today: "I saw someone put the SP500 against gold and it is mostly flat"
------

Try putting gold against dollars for the last 30 years. Stash in the mattress. It's an alternative currency, or currency speculation, not an investment. A bet against the dollar, in historical terms. A losing bet for a long time, though not in recent decades. Dollar holders have been "lucky" for a long time, gold has been making record advances in other currencies for a very long time.

Dollars used to be the currency par excellence. Better than gold, really. I remember street vendors in Cambodia bitching at me because a $20 bill had a corner that was folded over. WTF? They like their US greenbacks nice and crisp and pristine.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 08, 2026 02:37 PM (+/Ezd)

44 Eh, people vary in religious faith but any 'moderates' know that they are put on the death list if they speak out against the radicals. A far stronger version social and political ostracizing than the black community has had for not voting Democrat. And that is effective enough that blacks have voted 85-90 percent en bloc for Democrats since at least the LBJ era.
Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 02:31 PM (E4rtv)

If you mean "muslims" in the same way that the mob is "Catholic", then sure. People who only put on "muslim" garb but don't follow anything it says. There are a few of those.

But a good muslim is not a "good" person. Because they want you strangled with your own entrails.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 08, 2026 02:37 PM (N1tpc)

45 I can certainly understand not wanting to be in the position of trying to defend islam..

Posted by: Oglebay at September 08, 2026 02:37 PM (2ap+5)

46 24 1. There will be no new backlash. There wasn't an old backlash. People know Muslims are insane and violent and are scared of them. What would a "backlash" look like? Some Christians or Jews taunting a Muslim, and then he pulls out a knife and stabs them?

Posted by: Elric The Blade
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Predicting the future is a tricky thing. Some of the Muzloids will be departing due to being here illegally. Some will commit crimes and be deported. Others will find out that when the welfare and Learing center money runs out, that their marginal competency for holding a janitorial position doesn't give them the standard of living they desire. And a lot hinges on 2028.

The card that Trump and Co are holding close to the chest is how much Qatar and Muzloid Muslim Brotherhood groups like CAIR, etc. have been doing illegal shit behind the scenes like buying influencers without undertaking the FARA limits and buying colleges.

I think the tide is running out in Diversity INC and that includes patience for foreign invaders of all sorts. The only question is whether it will be peaceable or violent.

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 02:37 PM (E4rtv)

47 I remember street vendors in Cambodia bitching at me because a $20 bill had a corner that was folded over. WTF? They like their US greenbacks nice and crisp and pristine.
Posted by: Common Tater

Had the same problem in Ukraine in the late 90s.

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 02:38 PM (77rzZ)

48 The real victims of the battles Goliad and Alamo were the poor Mexican army troops who were scarred in profound ways and had to live in fear of backlash.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 08, 2026 02:39 PM (wVcYX)

49 If you mean "muslims" in the same way that the mob is "Catholic", then sure. People who only put on "muslim" garb but don't follow anything it says. There are a few of those.

But a good muslim is not a "good" person. Because they want you strangled with your own entrails.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

Yes, that is what I meant. Many are here for grifting purposes and when the money/fraud is gone, they will find their way to the door as they can live like kings back in their home countries (Somalia is an example) with what they stole from the US.

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 02:39 PM (E4rtv)

50 "Moderate" mohammedans are just reloading... or trying to get their rusty Kalashnikovs to cycle because like most mohammedans, they don't understand advanced technology.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2026 02:35 PM (y9nCu)

Inshallah.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 08, 2026 02:39 PM (N1tpc)

51 "There was a brief time of unity back in 2001...."
----

Not really. I was logged in to left leaning bulletin boards, before the towers had fallen they were falling all over themselves spouting the usual nonsense. It's a studied, reflexive, belligerent virtue-signaling ignorance.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 08, 2026 02:40 PM (+/Ezd)

52 It must be much worse for a mohammedan to fear a backlash for over two decades, than someone having a loved one die at the hands of one.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 08, 2026 02:40 PM (UGGC4)

53 I assume (guess) that it is the Constitution that prevents us from expelling all Muslims from the country.
Posted by: gp
======
To quote Associate Justice Robert Jackson in a case dealing with Commies, "The Constitution is Not A Suicide Pact."

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 02:41 PM (E4rtv)

54 A plea deal would involve her pleading guilty to something. She ain't gonna do that.

Posted by: ... at September 08, 2026 02:41 PM (vE0+H)

55 What happened to the other guy who was supposedly McVeigh's accomplice?
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 02:35 PM (77rzZ)

Terry Nichols. In prison for life. Rumored to be tangled up with Muslim separatists in the Philippines.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 08, 2026 02:41 PM (exU9W)

56 You know who should be worried about backlash for perpetrating 9/11? The Jews.

Posted by: ... at September 08, 2026 02:41 PM (vE0+H)

57 There's no way Mandani is going to be absent from the ceremony except if he's forcibly detained.

He and his fellow Muslims are here to CONQUER us.

He will do everything in his power to rub his boot in the faces of those most affected by 9/11 because that is who he is.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 08, 2026 02:41 PM (FZ29D)

58 You see, we get to pick who the victim is, not reality. Lindsay, the terrorists, the car jacker who was just turning his life around. We decide who is protected. Our narrative tells you what is "real".

Posted by: The Media at September 08, 2026 02:41 PM (anL5R)

59 Islamapechthia - regarding Islam to be repugnant.

They yell "islamophobia" but that's just trained seals; parrots, really, who know not what they squawk. Why should I give a rat's ass about their yelping?

Posted by: NeighSayer at September 08, 2026 02:42 PM (bufu1)

60 57 There's no way Mandani is going to be absent from the ceremony except if he's forcibly detained.

He and his fellow Muslims are here to CONQUER us.

He will do everything in his power to rub his boot in the faces of those most affected by 9/11 because that is who he is.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 08, 2026 02:41 PM (FZ29D)

=======

It'll be funny if El-Sayed loses what Democrats previously consider to be a winnable race and the establishment starts making moves against the Islamization of the party, up to and including something like a primary challenge to Mamdani in 2029.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:42 PM (qE8uT)

61 "To quote Associate Justice Robert Jackson in a case dealing with Commies, "The Constitution is Not A Suicide Pact.""

I like the sentiment, but how did that case turn out? Were all communists subsequently expelled from the USA?

Posted by: gp at September 08, 2026 02:42 PM (Jr5Lq)

62 Oh, no. The Smithsonian 's President is stepping down after fighting with Trump. The guy is an expert in African American studies, oddly he's African American.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 08, 2026 02:43 PM (v6vok)

63 "I don't say Muslims, because that's wrong. I'm talking about radical Muslims."
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You're an idiot.

Posted by: ... at September 08, 2026 02:43 PM (vE0+H)

64 Backlash against Muslims?? Does that mean, for Muslims and Leftist Communists ( but I repeat myself) not groveling to them and kissing their asses whenever they open their pieholes about anything? Because I think that is exactly what it means to them.

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 02:44 PM (Gqar8)

65 57 There's no way Mandani is going to be absent from the ceremony except if he's forcibly detained.

He and his fellow Muslims are here to CONQUER us.

He will do everything in his power to rub his boot in the faces of those most affected by 9/11 because that is who he is.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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He might not if he is publicly humiliated. People turning their backs on him in the midst of the ceremonies and having that portrayed on the media is a real possibility.

But, I think his ego is writing checks that his meager political support can't support. He might even end up a one term mayor if he keeps lying and screwing up NYC.

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 02:44 PM (E4rtv)

66 ok the pilot of the amazon jet was former Blackhawk pilot Joseph Carroll, 55. not a rookie not a recent immigrant!

copilot was Hispanic yeah but not flying

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 08, 2026 02:44 PM (j+aD2)

67 Coming soon:

A US citizen participating in concealed carry kills a Muslim shooting up a US school. Media calls is pre-emptive backlash.

Posted by: Orson at September 08, 2026 02:44 PM (dIske)

68 Saajid Khan, a 21-year-old University of South Florida student, echoed those sentiments. He was one of several students who were praying in a parking garage on campus in November 2025 when several men disrupted them, shouting profanities and taunting them with bacon − a forbidden food in Islam. The men were later charged over the incident.


Do the penalties increase for thick-cut bacon?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 02:45 PM (Riz8t)

69 #BREAKING: DOL suspends nearly all of India-based Cognizant's visa filings.

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For those keeping track, Cognizant was the third largest H1-B employer in America in 2024.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:45 PM (qE8uT)

70 68 Saajid Khan, a 21-year-old University of South Florida student, echoed those sentiments. He was one of several students who were praying in a parking garage on campus in November 2025 when several men disrupted them, shouting profanities and taunting them with bacon − a forbidden food in Islam. The men were later charged over the incident.


Do the penalties increase for thick-cut bacon?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 02:45 PM (Riz8t)

Turkey bacon is okay though.

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 02:46 PM (Gqar8)

71 Kick. them. out.

I knew a couple of guys who went to work that morning on the 110th floor of the North Tower. They never came home. If I had MY way....*types*deletes*

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 08, 2026 02:46 PM (hmYU4)

72 Over 40% of U.S. adults believe Muslims are less patriotic than other Americans and that Muslim Americans are having a negative impact on the country...
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The other 60% are pants-on-head retarded.

Posted by: Crusader at September 08, 2026 02:46 PM (TN0g+)

73 What happened to the other guy who was supposedly McVeigh's accomplice?
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 02:35 PM (77rzZ)

Terry Nichols. In prison for life. Rumored to be tangled up with Muslim separatists in the Philippines.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 08, 2026 02:41 PM (exU9W)
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I think more than rumors, but yes. Lotsa evidence of his ties to Abu Sayef, including that his mail-order bride was from Mindanao.

There was also that other guy that the FBI couldn't find and then conveniently decided he didn't exist.

Kinda odd that the Vegas shooter also had ties to Abu Sayef, including that mysterious girlfriend from Mindanao that the FBI didn't follow up on in the slightest.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 02:46 PM (iFTx/)

74 Backlash ? We never even had a Frontlash...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 08, 2026 02:46 PM (+gK6I)

75 yup. welcome to 2026. woo-effing-hoo.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 08, 2026 02:47 PM (VyBeY)

76 What one generation allows, the next generation will embrace.

Do moslems work on Fridays?

Posted by: Mohammed Abdullah Smith at September 08, 2026 02:47 PM (Z8Kuq)

77 I like the sentiment, but how did that case turn out? Were all communists subsequently expelled from the USA?
Posted by: gp
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Case came out okay. And that phrase along with Congress nearly passing the Bricker Amendment in the late 50's put an end to the Warren Court coddling commies.

And the issue back then was primarily foreign pieces of shit out to influence our politics. Unless you plan Air Pinochet with its risks and benefits, domestic commies can't really be dealt with. But their imported foreign catspaws like Mamdani can be under the right circumstances.

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 02:47 PM (E4rtv)

78 OT: I forgot to wish everybody a happy Patch Tuesday. There's a bunch.

Posted by: gp at September 08, 2026 02:47 PM (Jr5Lq)

79 Lefties were complaining about "aggressive patriotism" roughly a week after 9/11/01.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 08, 2026 02:47 PM (bX16E)

80 garage on campus in November 2025 when several men disrupted them, shouting profanities and taunting them with bacon − a forbidden food in Islam. The men were later charged over the incident.


Do the penalties increase for thick-cut bacon?
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What if they started throwing pulled pork sammiches?

Posted by: O the humanity! at September 08, 2026 02:47 PM (anL5R)

81 9/11 had many victims that weren't in the towers:

Something that no one talks about: The 9/11 attacks destroyed public education in this country. Public education died 25 years ago.

Bush’s presidency before 9/11 was focused heavily on domestic policy, especially education. After 9/11, national security consumed the administration...9/11 helped create the bipartisan environment that passed NCLB, but the War on Terror eventually diverted enormous attention and resources away from domestic education policy.

NCLB put the onus of student achievement on the teacher. The tenet was that if teachers tailored the lesson well enough, all students could learn equally. It just doesn’t work like that. False premise, false promise.

Yes, but have you considered the effect on army recruitment if everyone was educated to a high standard and taught critical thinking skills and objective reasoning?

I would go a step further back than that and say Vietnam destroyed this country and education in this country Vietnam is where we started to become hyperpolarized hyper paranoid and then when 9/11 happened it kind of reactivate it all of that or accelerated it exponentially

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 08, 2026 02:48 PM (PkrKm)

82 When Norm was right, he was right.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 02:48 PM (PGK1w)

83
For those keeping track, Cognizant was the third largest H1-B employer in America in 2024.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:45 PM (qE8uT)

Until some Federal Judge slaps an injunction on it..

Posted by: It's me donna at September 08, 2026 02:48 PM (+gK6I)

84 79 Lefties were complaining about "aggressive patriotism" roughly a week after 9/11/01.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 08, 2026 02:47 PM (bX16E)

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Always important to remind the left that it only costs $450 to renounce their citizenship. Then they can move to Sweden and be in socialist paradise.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:48 PM (qE8uT)

85 39. What happened to the other guy who was supposedly McVeigh's accomplice?
Posted by: Bulg

Terry Nichols, received multiple life sentences and is imprisoned at the ADX Florence supermax facility in Colorado.

An associate, who had advance knowledge of the plot, testified against McVeigh and Nichols in exchange for a plea deal. He served 12 years in prison and was released into the Witness Protection Program in 2006.

Posted by: L - No nic... at September 08, 2026 02:49 PM (NFX2v)

86 83
For those keeping track, Cognizant was the third largest H1-B employer in America in 2024.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:45 PM (qE8uT)

Until some Federal Judge slaps an injunction on it..

Posted by: It's me donna at September 08, 2026 02:48 PM (+gK6I)

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Oh, then I guess the administration shouldn't have even tried.

It's not like we have 17 months of history showing the administration winning literally every lawsuit in the end when it comes to immigration.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:49 PM (qE8uT)

87 Thank you for content Ace, as always.

I had a nice long weekend enjoying being back at home after our long trip but it feels like we brought the heat and humidity from Arkansas and Missouri back with us to Southern California!

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's phone) at September 08, 2026 02:50 PM (QGaXH)

88 30 Islam et Spheniscidae delenda est

shouldn't that be "delendi sunt"?

Posted by: anachronda at September 08, 2026 02:50 PM (v3pYe)

89 Perhaps it will also destroy the country, but AI is definitely going to crush the NEA and AFT.

Posted by: Oglebay at September 08, 2026 02:50 PM (2ap+5)

90 Backlash ? We never even had a Frontlash...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 08, 2026 02:46 PM (+gK6I)

I'm hoping against hope for some tonguelashing . . .

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 08, 2026 02:50 PM (wVcYX)

91 "Over 40% of U.S. adults believe Muslims are less patriotic than other Americans and that Muslim Americans are having a negative impact on the country."

Only 40%? What is wrong with the other 60%?

I mean, Muslims practically brag about how they still owe allegiance to Islam and their shithole countries. Many openly admit they are here to undermine our nation and people and substitute their own.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 02:50 PM (iFTx/)

92
Oh, then I guess the administration shouldn't have even tried.

It's not like we have 17 months of history showing the administration winning literally every lawsuit in the end when it comes to immigration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:49 PM (qE8uT)

They have to try.. After a couple months it should be over turned.. Doesn't mean it isn't infuriating...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 08, 2026 02:50 PM (+gK6I)

93 The Eternal Op Continues: "25 years after 9/11, many Muslims fear a new backlash"

Uh-oh. What are they planning this time?

Posted by: t-bird at September 08, 2026 02:50 PM (zfkPG)

94 Muslims fear backlash from the terror attack planned for 25th memorial of 9/11?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 08, 2026 02:50 PM (xQz2n)

95 > Try putting gold against dollars for the last 30 years. Stash in the mattress. It's an alternative currency, or currency speculation, not an investment.

Here's my problem with gold as an investment or even as a doomsday hedge. If you buy "gold" stocks, you're leaving money on the table. $10K in gold in 1996 leaves you with ~$115K today. S&P 500 has you closer to $211K with dividends reinvested.

If you're looking for a doomsday hedge, paper stocks are worthless. You have to have physical gold.

The problem with physical gold is cashing out. In a non-doomsday scenario, you have to deal with coin shops who aren't going to give you spot prices. You're getting significantly worse. In a doomsday scenario, who knows if gold is valued? Probably? I'd be willing to bet liquor and bullets would have better liquidity.

If you make it to the other side of doomsday and society recovers the gold will be valuable again. I think that's the best case scenario for gold. It's value-dense and easier to transport unless you have a lot of it.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 08, 2026 02:51 PM (mkw2N)

96 91 Only 40%? What is wrong with the other 60%?

I mean, Muslims practically brag about how they still owe allegiance to Islam and their shithole countries. Many openly admit they are here to undermine our nation and people and substitute their own.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 02:50 PM (iFTx/)

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"Papists owe allegiance to the pope and will do whatever the pope tells them to do. Also, Muslims are more American than apple pie."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:51 PM (qE8uT)

97
There's no way Mandani is going to be absent from the ceremony except if he's forcibly detained.

He and his fellow Muslims are here to CONQUER us.

He will do everything in his power to rub his boot in the faces of those most affected by 9/11 because that is who he is.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

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I bet he shows up and does such an incredible job of weeping and putting on a solemn face that talent agents lament that he went into politics instead of acting. He'll probably wear a touch of something red white and blue. These people know their theater.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 08, 2026 02:51 PM (XJ22o)

98 "But Muslim leaders described a notable shift when President Donald Trump launched his presidential campaign in 2015. He initiated what became known as the "Muslim ban" during his first term and has taken similar action since returning to office."

See now, that really pisses me off. There was no Muslim ban. It never happened. Over 90% of Muslims worldwide were unaffected, because they don't live in the countries named.

So, Liberals, if Hakeem Jefferies tells you tomorrow he has passed an assault weapons ban. But, what passed exempts more than 90% of whatever qualifies as an assault rifle.

Then, clearly, Hypothetical Hakeem didn't ban assault weapons, and Trump didn't ban Muslims. It never happened.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at September 08, 2026 02:51 PM (r7+Q7)

99 84 79 Lefties were complaining about "aggressive patriotism" roughly a week after 9/11/01.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 08, 2026 02:47 PM (bX16E)

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Always important to remind the left that it only costs $450 to renounce their citizenship. Then they can move to Sweden and be in socialist paradise.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:48 PM (qE8uT)

My religion keeps my aggressive patriotism in check, for good or ill. I will own that. I DO say that Islam, in all of its aspects, sorely tries my faith, more so than any other of the outrages that we are currently living with.

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 02:51 PM (Gqar8)

100 He might even end up a one term mayor if he keeps lying and screwing up NYC.
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Well, he's an islamonazi, of course he is going to keep lying and screwing up NYC. Lying and screwing up is their entire reason for existing. It comes as naturally to him as breathing does to anyone else.

Whether the voters decide to notice is another matter.

Posted by: the orcs are perpetual screw ups at September 08, 2026 02:51 PM (anL5R)

101 Our government and muslims will never be able to forgive what they have done to us. Poor dears.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 02:52 PM (rbvCR)

102 Who carries bacon around in case they see a muslim praying? Fake and gay.

Posted by: DinsdalePiranha at September 08, 2026 02:53 PM (hiXpn)

103 "In a doomsday scenario, who knows if gold is valued?"

It will be. You'll meet with a guy to trade gold for bread or something. Whoever shoots first takes all. Barter in a SHTF situation is a pipe dream.

Posted by: gp at September 08, 2026 02:53 PM (Jr5Lq)

104 I say, let's get started with the backlash

it's long overdue

Posted by: Don Black at September 08, 2026 02:54 PM (ZxPkt)

105 I might leave the house with bacon, but it's not going to make it to the end of the driveway.

Posted by: Oglebay at September 08, 2026 02:54 PM (2ap+5)

106 12 Well, it'll look really bad when they say the number was 19.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 08, 2026 02:29 PM (N1tpc)

Hey nineteen .....,,,,

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's phone) at September 08, 2026 02:54 PM (QGaXH)

107 If you make it to the other side of doomsday and society recovers the gold will be valuable again. I think that's the best case scenario for gold. It's value-dense and easier to transport unless you have a lot of it.
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Diamonds.

Posted by: Dr. Christian Szell at September 08, 2026 02:55 PM (anL5R)

108 It'll be funny if El-Sayed loses what Democrats previously consider to be a winnable race and the establishment starts making moves against the Islamization of the party, up to and including something like a primary challenge to Mamdani in 2029.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

They won't blame Muslims....that would be racist. They'll say he was too extreme, and try to use it as an excuse to purge/stifle the openly radical Left wing of the party in their civil war.

Mamdani might not attend if he is publicly humiliated. People turning their backs on him in the midst of the ceremonies and having that portrayed on the media is a real possibility.

That will be fine. He'll get to play the victim card of anti-Muslim and racism, and his base will eat it up when a bunch of white people are photographed turning their backs on him.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 08, 2026 02:55 PM (PkrKm)

109 > You'll meet with a guy to trade gold for bread or something. Whoever shoots first takes all.

Yeah, that's a problem.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 08, 2026 02:56 PM (mkw2N)

110 On 9-11 the United States was attacked by islam. Don’t believe me. Believe the adherents of islam who helped plan and carry out the attack.

Believe their supporters who still continue to express they want to destroy us.

Believe the countless combatants we fought for the better part of 20 years.

Believe the people who have now occupied parts of our country, who want the same thing.

Today is just a different battle in the same was using new tactics.

Posted by: Marcus T 9-11 Survivor at September 08, 2026 02:56 PM (hcEyG)

111 Do the penalties increase for thick-cut bacon?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 02:45 PM (Riz8t)

Yes. The penalties of deliciousness.

Posted by: ... at September 08, 2026 02:56 PM (vE0+H)

112 "25 years after 9/11, many Muslims fear a new backlash"
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Still waiting for the old backlash.

Why do they come here?

They come to take.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 08, 2026 02:56 PM (RIvkX)

113 new pc is up n running

everything's in times new roman again

Posted by: Don Black at September 08, 2026 02:56 PM (ZxPkt)

114
The Japanese were ruthless to our American/Allies taken prisoner. War crimes were committed. Socially the Japanese were a pariah. 30 years after the war we as a nation were buying up every car they were producing, and a lot of stuff was coming in from Japan.

Posted by: Frank Barone at September 08, 2026 02:34 PM (OkYzo)



Getting nuked twice goes a long ways towards making nations behave like civilized people rather than murderous, genocidal asshoes.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2026 02:57 PM (y9nCu)

115 No, no. We only want to learn how to disengage the autopilot and steer the plane ourselves.

Posted by: Some Zombie Hijackers at September 08, 2026 02:57 PM (R0XxO)

116 113 new pc is up n running

everything's in times new roman again

Posted by: Don Black at September 08, 2026 02:56 PM (ZxPkt)

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*Invasion of the Body Snatchers scream*
-Calibri

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:57 PM (qE8uT)

117 You'll meet with a guy to trade gold for bread or something. Whoever shoots first takes all.

Yeah, that's a problem.
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Which is why I created Bartertown.

Posted by: Auntie Entity at September 08, 2026 02:57 PM (anL5R)

118 113 new pc is up n running

everything's in times new roman again
Posted by: Don Black at September 08, 2026 02:56 PM (ZxPkt)

To serif or sans serif, that is the question.

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 02:58 PM (Gqar8)

119 We have freedom of forms of religion here - but we don't have freedom of forms of government. That should exclude islam right there.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at September 08, 2026 02:58 PM (GMWTj)

120 this Dell micro pc is the size of a paperback novel

Posted by: Don Black at September 08, 2026 02:59 PM (ZxPkt)

121 First of all, we really don't know who was behind 9/11, this is just a fact, everyone knows it was not what they made you believe it was.

Second of all, it is just a fact, and everyone knows that every Muslim capital much nicer and safer than any major US city. You need to ask why that is, and why a small contingent of US population, a population with dual loyalties, wants us to hate such nice clean and safe capitals.

Posted by: Cucker Tarlson at September 08, 2026 03:00 PM (AKptf)

122 If Mamdani presents himself, his pleasure and glee will be impossible to hide and be in stark contrast with the mood of most everyone around him. It will be too obvious because he is a smarmy, arrogant bastard. There will likely be violence.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 08, 2026 03:00 PM (RIvkX)

123 Catching up on ace's posts, just saw the women interviewed on the street outside the courthouse in the Clancy trial. WTH. All of them are fat & tatted and generally unpleasant looking. Ive tried initiating various conversations w friends and family over the years (my three sisters are very overweight so Ive tried walking on eggshells) regarding the weight and general appearance of women today. I'm 60. I have a 20 year old college attending daughter who I half raised (divorced), she's very attractive, but wears the frumpy clothing of a homeless bum - baggy pants, shirts five sizes too large and struggles with slight weight gains at the butt and legs. So chicken or egg here - is it a matter of self esteem w women that causes the lack of care in how they look or is something going on w what women are ingesting that causes them to feel low esteem when they just can't keep up w weight gains etc?

Posted by: Jeeves at September 08, 2026 03:00 PM (hyQrc)

124 113 new pc is up n running

everything's in times new roman again
Posted by: Don Black at September 08, 2026 02:56 PM (ZxPkt)

To serif or sans serif, that is the question.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 02:58 PM (Gqar

Helvetica is all Swiss to me.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 08, 2026 03:00 PM (wVcYX)

125
You'll meet with a guy to trade gold for bread or something. Whoever shoots first takes all.

Yeah, that's a problem.
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Which is why I created Bartertown.
Posted by: Auntie Entity at September 08, 2026 02:57 PM (anL5R)


Bust a Deal, Face the Wheel

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2026 03:00 PM (y9nCu)

126 There are plenty of places in the world where they could practice their religion. Places where they would be received with open arms and every accommodation would be made for them.

Given that, ask yourself why they are here advocating for things antithetical to the American Republic, our constitution and our way of life.

Posted by: Marcus T 9-11 Survivor at September 08, 2026 03:00 PM (KOPVf)

127 Fire Doesn't Melt Steel!

Posted by: Rosie at September 08, 2026 03:00 PM (anL5R)

128 How was everyone's Labor Day?

I went to the in-laws. They were making chicken and I wanted burgers. I brought a ten pack of patties, cheese, and buns because I'm considerate. My wife didn't approve of the cheese I bought, so I bought another kind of cheese.

When it came time to make the burgers, I polled the crowd to see how many patties I needed to cook. I made exactly that number. Then when I told the crowd the burgers were ready, suddenly more people wanted burgers. I had to turn away some people and felt like a dick. I did let them know there were more patties, but they'd have to cook their own.

I know I could have cooked all the patties, but I didn't sign up for that. I just wanted my own burger. I feel like I went above and beyond by bringing and making extra.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 08, 2026 03:01 PM (mkw2N)

129 @EricLDaugh

The number of anti-mass deportation immigration judges fired has RISEN to 137 under President Trump — while 349 replacement judges have been hired to FAST-TRACK the removal of illegal aliens

This is a HUGE development for clearing any backlogs and SENDING THEM ALL BACK, ONE BY ONE

Immigration judges have been known problems in the removal system and they are NOT in the judicial branch — existing under DOJ

That means they can be FIRED and REPLACED en masse

Get on board with Trump's mass deportations, or GET FIRE

Posted by: redridinghood at September 08, 2026 03:01 PM (NpAcC)

130 Now, 25 years after the attacks, Muslims across the country are asking the same question as they experience rising Islamophobia and concerns about their First Amendment right to religious freedom.
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Don't tease me.

Posted by: CNN at September 08, 2026 03:01 PM (TU5Q9)

131 By the way, those Iranians are kicking our ass:

Current cost of a loaf of bread in Iran. 600,000 Iranian Rials.

Posted by: Orson at September 08, 2026 03:01 PM (dIske)

132 Communists or Communism was never made illegal, but numerous XOs precluded Communists from being employed, by the Federal Government at least. This was completely rational and just.

I'm sure Clinton or somebody like that rescinded those XOs. At least, that's what it looks like from out here in the cheap seats.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 08, 2026 03:02 PM (+/Ezd)

133 Some backlashes are richly deserved

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

134 The islamofaggotry of the Democrat party isn't going to stop. I said it was coming before it started. Before Mamdani. Before Sayed.

Unfortunately this is our country now.

Posted by: ... at September 08, 2026 03:03 PM (vE0+H)

135 Twenty-five years of hindsight:

I wish all muslims had self-deported due to this "fear." Pity they did not fear more than their imagination. Do I still side eye head coverings and tents on their women? Indeed I do. I am watchful in the very rare event I see one in an airport.

The unity our country felt with the leadership of GWB after 9/11 fizzled with the six words that "islam is a religion of peace." I wonder who told the nitwit to say that?

I remember being outraged when he said this, giving "them" an out.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at September 08, 2026 03:03 PM (hzuYO)

136 Somehow, after 911 our government decided to import as many muscles over here as possible. Before that I rarely saw Muslims now I see them all over the place all the time.

Posted by: Maroon at September 08, 2026 03:03 PM (Q8MzQ)

137 Yes. Indeed . CNN has been running the same headline for 25 years. They ought to change their acronym to CNMN ( Communist Network Muslim News)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 08, 2026 03:03 PM (vxQju)

138 Who carries bacon around in case they see a muslim praying?

Probably a good idea, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 08, 2026 03:03 PM (Riz8t)

139 129 @EricLDaugh

The number of anti-mass deportation immigration judges fired has RISEN to 137 under President Trump — while 349 replacement judges have been hired to FAST-TRACK the removal of illegal aliens

This is a HUGE development for clearing any backlogs and SENDING THEM ALL BACK, ONE BY ONE

Immigration judges have been known problems in the removal system and they are NOT in the judicial branch — existing under DOJ

That means they can be FIRED and REPLACED en masse

Get on board with Trump's mass deportations, or GET FIRE

Posted by: redridinghood at September 08, 2026 03:01 PM (NpAcC)

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Mega-master hearings where asylum claims are rejected by the dozen at a time combined with the removals of protected statuses has greatly increased the well of easy pickings for ICE and aligned police forces under 287g agreements.

Also, Treasury added a bunch of regulations and guidance about how banks are to treat people not here legally (as well as legally, but temporarily), effectively cutting many immigrants off from the financial system.

Also, OBBB ended a lot of welfare eligibility (takes effect Oct 1).

They can get out, or they can get out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 03:03 PM (qE8uT)

140 131 By the way, those Iranians are kicking our ass:

Current cost of a loaf of bread in Iran. 600,000 Iranian Rials.

Posted by: Orson at September 08, 2026 03:01 PM (dIske)

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Trump has no response to this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 03:03 PM (qE8uT)

141 "I'd be willing to bet liquor and bullets would have better liquidity."

If you trade in "ballistic wampum," then you are revealing that you indeed do have ammunition - which makes you the value dense target.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at September 08, 2026 03:04 PM (GMWTj)

142 Get real. There is no phobia. It is more a distrust of a philosophy that hates the West and especially Christians. Wake up America, before it is too late, if it is not already so.

Posted by: Huxley Orwell at September 08, 2026 03:05 PM (j3Fsw)

143 > is it a matter of self esteem w women that causes the lack of care in how they look or is something going on w what women are ingesting that causes them to feel low esteem when they just can't keep up w weight gains etc?

Not just women. Everybody's fat now. It seems like the only people who aren't are either young, a gym rat, or genetically gifted. Even many young people are fat.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 08, 2026 03:05 PM (mkw2N)

144 Cognizant AND Cloudera are having their visa filings blocked

as of now

more to come I have a feeling!

very fraud. much fake.

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 08, 2026 03:05 PM (j+aD2)

145 Who carries bacon around in case they see a muslim praying?"

Well, we carry bleach around in 15 degree weather...

MAGANigerians

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 03:05 PM (cGjQu)

146 144 Cognizant AND Cloudera are having their visa filings blocked

as of now

more to come I have a feeling!

very fraud. much fake.

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 08, 2026 03:05 PM (j+aD2)

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But Trump didn't break the law and just end H-1B on his own, so nothing is happening.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 03:05 PM (qE8uT)

147 What happened to the other guy who was supposedly McVeigh's accomplice?
Posted by: Bulg

Terry Nichols, received multiple life sentences and is imprisoned at the ADX Florence supermax facility in Colorado.

An associate, who had advance knowledge of the plot, testified against McVeigh and Nichols in exchange for a plea deal. He served 12 years in prison and was released into the Witness Protection Program in 2006.
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Fornier was one of the accomplices--he was the one with the 12 years in prison. But there was a dark-complected accomplice that was initially reported to be with McVey. His existence was *wiped* from the official narrative within 24 hours of the bombing.

Posted by: Crusader at September 08, 2026 03:06 PM (TN0g+)

148 Current cost of a loaf of bread in Iran. 600,000 Iranian Rials.
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Go long on wheelbarrows.

Posted by: Wiemar Republic at September 08, 2026 03:06 PM (xQz2n)

149 "In a doomsday scenario, who knows if gold is valued?"
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In a doomsday scenario, practically nothing else is. Certainly no paper currency with dead guys on it, fuggedabout it. History is very clear on this.

"Barter in a SHTF situation is a pipe dream"

Eh, SHTF all over the world all the time. Silver subsidiary coinage was used for small purchases. Great stuff, those silver dimes and quarters. Now we just get ugly Chucky Cheese tokens.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 08, 2026 03:06 PM (+/Ezd)

150 We have freedom of forms of religion here - but we don't have freedom of forms of government. That should exclude islam right there.
Posted by: CTHillary

That's actually a very good point. Go after Islam as an alternative political system incompatible with republicanism. No need to cause First-Amendment issues. Go after the politics of Islam, not its theology.

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 03:06 PM (77rzZ)

151 > If you trade in "ballistic wampum," then you are revealing that you indeed do have ammunition - which makes you the value dense target.

Sure, but that's true of ALL barter items. If you have some, you have more. As soon as you reveal you have anything of value, you're a target.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 08, 2026 03:07 PM (mkw2N)

152 @139 I believe a lot more left than the official 3M. Slipped out, self deported, took the tunnel in CA, whatever. I think a few million more. And not just to MEX, there were others too, maybe African, maybe Eastern European. But more that the official, traceable numbers.

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 03:07 PM (AKptf)

153 What, Horde, do we consider “ fat”? Is it quantifiable? Or is it something that is more of an “ I know it when I see it”, sort of thing?

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 03:07 PM (Gqar8)

154 Looks like the Win 11 security update is going to take over an hour just to download, on my 800MB/sec fiber. They must be replacing the whole OS. Debian got a shit-ton of updates today too.

Posted by: gp at September 08, 2026 03:07 PM (Jr5Lq)

155 Not just women. Everybody's fat now. It seems like the only people who aren't are either young, a gym rat, or genetically gifted. Even many young people are fat.
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Its a sedentary country for the most part. Some people are still pretty active, but there's not a lot of calories burned during screen time.

Posted by: How many hours a day at September 08, 2026 03:08 PM (anL5R)

156 Fearful? They seem emboldened.

Posted by: Unkaren at September 08, 2026 03:08 PM (wBxGS)

157 Everybody's fat now"

Somewhat upper mid class, now GLP 1ing like crazy...

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 03:08 PM (cGjQu)

158 There are so many good tools for tracking what you eat and how many calories you burn I can't help but think the obesity problem is because most people are even worse at math than Tucker.

Posted by: Oglebay at September 08, 2026 03:08 PM (2ap+5)

159 152 @139 I believe a lot more left than the official 3M. Slipped out, self deported, took the tunnel in CA, whatever. I think a few million more. And not just to MEX, there were others too, maybe African, maybe Eastern European. But more that the official, traceable numbers.

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 03:07 PM (AKptf)

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The most official number we have is 3 million from the census survey.

I also suspect it's more. Just people living in the shadows who were never counted in any way who just left without documentation just like they came in without documentation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 03:08 PM (qE8uT)

160 143 > is it a matter of self esteem w women that causes the lack of care in how they look or is something going on w what women are ingesting that causes them to feel low esteem when they just can't keep up w weight gains etc?

Not just women. Everybody's fat now. It seems like the only people who aren't are either young, a gym rat, or genetically gifted. Even many young people are fat.
Posted by: bonhomme

Anti depressants being prescribed willy nilly and a lot of food additives have that tendency. And last but not least, war on smoking versus cannaboids becoming in vogue. Nicotine suppresses hunger, cannaboids increase it.

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 03:09 PM (E4rtv)

161 Anybody fatter than me is fat.

Posted by: fd at September 08, 2026 03:09 PM (1SMHI)

162 The only way to deal with this is offensively. "F*ck you, Islam attacked us and Islam is the enemy. We haven't forgotten." That's it. They want to scumble the issue and put you on defense.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 08, 2026 03:09 PM (7s9Qe)

163 > Now we just get ugly Chucky Cheese tokens.

Have you ever noticed how our ugly Chucky Cheese tokens ring when you flip them? Canaderp's ugly Chucky Cheese tokens don't do that. They make a dull clink noise. Just something I've noticed.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 08, 2026 03:09 PM (mkw2N)

164 What, Horde, do we consider “ fat”? Is it quantifiable? Or is it something that is more of an “ I know it when I see it”, sort of thing?
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 03:07 PM (Gqar
________

JB Pritzker is fat. That I know.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 08, 2026 03:09 PM (iFTx/)

165 It's a sliding scale

Posted by: fd at September 08, 2026 03:09 PM (1SMHI)

166 What, Horde, do we consider “ fat”? Is it quantifiable? Or is it something that is more of an “ I know it when I see it”, sort of thing?
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 03:07 PM (Gqar

A dashing actor, like me!

Posted by: Chow Yun-fat at September 08, 2026 03:09 PM (AKptf)

167 This is a horrible situation, a terrorist protected by NYPD cops going to the sacred spot to celebrate to attack.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 08, 2026 03:10 PM (pp9sJ)

168 Muslims claiming to be aggrieved? Ask the Blacks who were shoved out of the head of the free shit line by the millions of Hispanics how they feel.

Aggrieved.... ain't but the start of what the Blacks think about the Muslim invaders. The ethnic cleansing wars that seem to be on the horizon are going to be lit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 08, 2026 03:10 PM (2Cry5)

169 "Also, Treasury added a bunch of regulations and guidance about how banks are to treat people not here legally .... effectively cutting many illegal aliens off from the financial system"

I'd be willing to bet any amount of money that no new or additional regulations or "guidance" was required to effect these policies. It's always been illegal. As always our national problems are a matter of enforcement of long standing existing laws and practices. People are paid to look the other way.

Would it be even feasible to suggest, or hope that the Court would re-visit this notion that US Taxpayers are on the hook to pay for public schooling of illegal aliens?

One of the more egregious opinions, ever. Just legal twaddle.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 08, 2026 03:10 PM (+/Ezd)

170 I believe a lot more left than the official 3M"

Based on nothing more than observation, I agree. Remember the massive immigration "community" area NE of Houston? There are areas there now that are...deserted. It's bizarre.

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 03:11 PM (cGjQu)

171 A lot of comedians used to be fat. Maybe not as much any more.

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 03:11 PM (Gqar8)

172 169 I'd be willing to bet any amount of money that no new or additional regulations or "guidance" was required to effect these policies. It's always been illegal. As always our national problems are a matter of enforcement of long standing existing laws and practices. People are paid to look the other way.

Would it be even feasible to suggest, or hope that the Court would re-visit this notion that US Taxpayers are on the hook to pay for public schooling of illegal aliens?

One of the more egregious opinions, ever. Just legal twaddle.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 08, 2026 03:10 PM (+/Ezd)

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It'd be interesting if there was a law that outlawed banks from opening accounts of people who are not American citizens, but I doubt there is one, to be honest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 03:11 PM (qE8uT)

173 *types*
*deletes*

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 08, 2026 03:11 PM (W2Pud)

174 The most official number we have is 3 million from the census survey.

I also suspect it's more. Just people living in the shadows who were never counted in any way who just left without documentation just like they came in without documentation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Unclear. There is some indications that due to police help with ICE in red states, that numbers are far greater than in blue states trying to keep those illegals present by any means possible.

So if you live in a blue state and/or some blue cities in the US, sucks to be you because your governments are trying to keep illegals here. If you live in a lot of redstates, they aren't. So those in California notice little if no improvement and those in somewhere like Alabama, substantial improvement.

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 03:11 PM (E4rtv)

175 It's a sliding scale
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We'll probably use a class average.

Posted by: Lou Grant, Faculty Member at September 08, 2026 03:11 PM (TN0g+)

176
In Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, and D.C., the share of Muslim prisoners is around 20 percent or higher. (Stats were from back in 2019.)

Why Islam Grows Behind Bars. Conversions: A large number of individuals embrace Islam after entering the prison system, making it one of the fastest-growing faiths in correctional facilities.

Historical Roots: Pennsylvania has a deep history of organized Islamic groups—such as the Nation of Islam and local congregations connected to Philadelphia—influencing prison culture and community support for decades.
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April 2026 - CAIR-Minnesota (CAIR-MN)
April 27
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Religious freedom does not end at the walls of a prison. CAIR, @CAIRMN, and Golden Law welcomed a federal court order requiring the Bureau of Prisons to destroy all hijab-less booking photos of our client and affirming the rights of Muslim women in custody. Alhamdulillah.

Posted by: L - No nic... at September 08, 2026 03:11 PM (NFX2v)

177
Somehow, after 911 our government decided to import as many muscles over here as possible. Before that I rarely saw Muslims now I see them all over the place all the time.
Posted by: Maroon at September 08, 2026 03:03 PM (Q8MzQ)



Partly a vast increase in the number of imported mohammedans, plus a bunch of college graduate hippie chicks marrying dusky Pakistani tribesmen and adopting the hijab and chador because it's fashionable. And "moderate" mohammedans leaving behind western clothing and wearing traditional desert robes in snowy Minnesota because it's easier to hide a full-size Kalashnikov under a desert robe than to try stuffing it down your puffy snow pants.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2026 03:12 PM (y9nCu)

178 There's no way Mandani is going to be absent from the ceremony except if he's forcibly detained.

He and his fellow Muslims are here to CONQUER us.

He will do everything in his power to rub his boot in the faces of those most affected by 9/11 because that is who he is.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 08, 2026 02:41 PM (FZ29D)

Rocks in Pockets should be a call of duty for NewYorkers for the ceremony. If ol' Mamdani shows up, unload those rocks towards him with extreme prejudice.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 08, 2026 03:12 PM (g8Ew8)

179 >It's a sliding scale
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well it was, til someone fat sat on it, now it's all bent and doesn't slide anymore

Posted by: Don Black at September 08, 2026 03:12 PM (ZxPkt)

180 Horde, do we consider “ fat”? Is it quantifiable?
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Rosie ODonnell is fat.

Posted by: Donnie two scoops at September 08, 2026 03:12 PM (anL5R)

181 "There are so many good tools for tracking what you eat and how many calories you burn"

I use a composition notebook and a Bic pen. It's been working great for 12 months now. Calorie counting works for maintaining healthy weight.

Posted by: gp at September 08, 2026 03:12 PM (Jr5Lq)

182 One of the more egregious opinions, ever. Just legal twaddle.

Posted by: Common Tater
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The Burger Court, in some ways, was more liberal than the Warren Court. And that decision is one of them.

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 03:12 PM (E4rtv)

183
I wish White liberal women would worry about the backlash of defending men in womens sports, and defending a woman who strangled 3 of her under age 5 children to death.

Posted by: Frank Barone at September 08, 2026 03:13 PM (OkYzo)

184 I've lost like 60-70 pounds since to combat my diabetes. It was the hardest thing I've ever done, health-wise. It affected nearly every aspect of my life.

And I did it without drugs. Simple portion control and healthier diet. And it did take about 15 years. But I'm glad that I did it.

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 03:13 PM (77rzZ)

185 , or hope that the Court would re-visit this notion that US Taxpayers are on the hook to pay for public schooling of illegal aliens?"

Don't get my hopes up...

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 03:14 PM (cGjQu)

186 170 I believe a lot more left than the official 3M"

Based on nothing more than observation, I agree. Remember the massive immigration "community" area NE of Houston? There are areas there now that are...deserted. It's bizarre.

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 03:11 PM (cGjQu)

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The enforcement is uneven because of the 287g agreement thing.

Texas has a bunch and local cops do most of the leg work. It's illegal according to state law for police to enter 287g agreements in Washington, Oregon, and California, as contrast.

Still, if cop meets guy, suspects illegal presence, he just checks, finds him illegal, and books him (impounding everything he has and putting it up for auction), waiting for ICE to come along and pick him up and deport him.

NC's legislature passed a law recently mandating that all local cops enter 287g agreements.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 03:14 PM (qE8uT)

187 Horde, do we consider “ fat”? Is it quantifiable?
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Rosie ODonnell is fat.
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Rosie's so fat that when she sits around the house...she sits AROUND the house!

Posted by: Crusader at September 08, 2026 03:14 PM (TN0g+)

188 The word on Mandami is he is going to focus his remarks on the brave first responders, and not the savage and satanic false religion and its ignorant goat-fucking brutes behind the attacks

Posted by: Don Black at September 08, 2026 03:14 PM (ZxPkt)

189 152 @139 I believe a lot more left than the official 3M. Slipped out, self deported, took the tunnel in CA, whatever. I think a few million more. And not just to MEX, there were others too, maybe African, maybe Eastern European. But more that the official, traceable numbers.
Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 03:07 PM (AKptf)

Slipped out the back, Jacques
Made a new plan, Stanislaus
No need to be coy, Choy
Just listen Dupuy

Posted by: Paolo Simone at September 08, 2026 03:14 PM (0CU3H)

190 184 Congrats, Bulg! I'm glad for you too.

Posted by: gp at September 08, 2026 03:14 PM (Jr5Lq)

191 Bernie Sanders is 85 years old today.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 08, 2026 03:15 PM (Cqx++)

192 Bunch of mute points here. Ample Biblical evidence points to 2033 as the date of the end of all things visible. Plan accordingly.

Posted by: You Can Observe A Lot Just By Watching at September 08, 2026 03:15 PM (Fn+3X)

193 Well, Glen Reynolds over at Insty maintains, a lot, that obesity, or “ fatness” if we are being Meany McMeanersons is now purely an option, with the advent of anti-fat wonder drugs. Oui oui Wegovy !!!

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 03:15 PM (Gqar8)

194 cannaboids increase it.
Posted by: whig

And difficulty spelling. Lotta skinny potheads out there.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at September 08, 2026 03:15 PM (Fv808)

195 Rosie's so fat that when she works out, she sweats gravy

Posted by: Don Black at September 08, 2026 03:15 PM (ZxPkt)

196 What, Horde, do we consider “ fat”? Is it quantifiable? Or is it something that is more of an “ I know it when I see it”, sort of thing?
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Anybody over about 195 who isn't muscle bound or an NFL linebacker or something like that. Sure there are individual differences but most people don't crack over 6 feet. I'm 5'14" myself. About 175 pounds, down from 250 in 2019, a banner year for me. Yes, I was fat. Porcine. It creeps up on ya. Just look at the charts.

Sedentariness isn't really an excuse either, but it is a factor on how many calories are necessary. But only a factor. And it isn't very many. This is the problem, someone can consume enough calories for the day merely by snacking, very quickly.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 08, 2026 03:16 PM (+/Ezd)

197 174 Unclear. There is some indications that due to police help with ICE in red states, that numbers are far greater than in blue states trying to keep those illegals present by any means possible.

So if you live in a blue state and/or some blue cities in the US, sucks to be you because your governments are trying to keep illegals here. If you live in a lot of redstates, they aren't. So those in California notice little if no improvement and those in somewhere like Alabama, substantial improvement.

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 03:11 PM (E4rtv)

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Apparently rents are showing this.

Rents in places where local cops have 287g agreements are down something like 6%. Rents in places where cops don't have 287g agreements are up something like 4%.

There's definitely some self-sorting within the country going on, but if they're going to CA which allows illegals to enroll in CalAid, it's just going to make their budget issues that much worse that much faster.

And, as new ICE personnel ramp up from the OBBB hiring started at the beginning of the year, ICE will have more resources to look at blue states since red states are doing the ground work.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 03:16 PM (qE8uT)

198 Bunch of mute points here. Ample Biblical evidence points to 2033 as the date of the end of all things visible. Plan accordingly.
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"But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only." [1]

Posted by: Crusader at September 08, 2026 03:16 PM (TN0g+)

199 Speaking of trying not to be fat, I had a pretty good leg day yesterday:

Squats:
1 set 290lbs x 8
2 sets 260lbs x 8
RDLs
2 sets 275lbs x 6
Split squats
4 sets bodyweight x 15 per side
Hamstring curls
3 sets 135lbs x 10

Posted by: bonhomme at September 08, 2026 03:17 PM (mkw2N)

200 "What did this mean for the Muslim community? What did this mean for me?"

I think these are exactly the right questions. It's the answers you come up with that show your soul.

If you say, "They will claim they did it for Islam, but that's wrong. They shouldn't claim this because Islam shouldn't be pushing this stuff", then there's hope for your particular group of Muslims.

If you say, "It will all be lies because we never do that kind of stuff! It's always lies about Muslim terrorists!" then you're part of the problem. Either because you're an idiot who believes the taqqiya or because you spread the taqqiya.

Posted by: GWB at September 08, 2026 03:17 PM (kU0PQ)

201 191 Bernie Sanders is 85 years old today.
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85 years of not producing anything but complaints.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 08, 2026 03:17 PM (xQz2n)

202 Rosie's so fat that when she sits around the house...she sits AROUND the house!
Posted by: Crusader

Yes, sadly she is no longer the sexy minx we loved in Exit To Eden.

Posted by: Whale Of A Movie at September 08, 2026 03:17 PM (Fn+3X)

203
Ample Biblical evidence points to 2033 as the date of the end of all things visible.

Whew!

Posted by: The invisible man at September 08, 2026 03:18 PM (Cqx++)

204 193 Well, Glen Reynolds over at Insty maintains, a lot, that obesity, or “ fatness” if we are being Meany McMeanersons is now purely an option, with the advent of anti-fat wonder drugs. Oui oui Wegovy !!!
Posted by: tubal
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Glenn has issues on health and thinks he can live forever.

It might also be that he gets money promoting certain products.

Like any other sort of news service or government, you have to ask why they are telling you what they do and if they have some sort of agenda behind it.

Applies to the right as well as the left.

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 03:18 PM (E4rtv)

205
"But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only."
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But the YEAR - yeah can pin that right down.

Posted by: I'm just reading what it says at September 08, 2026 03:18 PM (anL5R)

206 > Anybody over about 195 who isn't muscle bound or an NFL linebacker or something like that. Sure there are individual differences but most people don't crack over 6 feet.

I'm 6'5". I'm aiming for 220lbs. I'm currently 234lbs.

I don't think I want to be 195lbs.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 08, 2026 03:18 PM (mkw2N)

207 And I did it without drugs. Simple portion control and healthier diet. And it did take about 15 years. But I'm glad that I did it.
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 03:13 PM (77rzZ)

I am in almost the identical place except without the diabetes prod. It did help a lot when I started participating in the step challenge at work. Retirement made an amazing difference too. My family is replete with tall skinny people and their annoying constant teasing added some incentive.

Posted by: Oglebay at September 08, 2026 03:18 PM (2ap+5)

208 Many are going to blue locales. Only temporary solution for them.

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 03:19 PM (AKptf)

209 Calorie counting works for maintaining healthy weight
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No it doesn't. AI, and all the "experts" say it doesn't work. So, that settles it.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 08, 2026 03:19 PM (+/Ezd)

210 "Ample Biblical evidence points to 2033 as the date of the end of all things visible."

If that doesn't getcha, the 2037 Singularity will. Although the singularity seems to be coming faster than predicted.

Posted by: gp at September 08, 2026 03:19 PM (Jr5Lq)

211 There's definitely some self-sorting within the country going on, but if they're going to CA which allows illegals to enroll in CalAid, it's just going to make their budget issues that much worse that much faster.

And, as new ICE personnel ramp up from the OBBB hiring started at the beginning of the year, ICE will have more resources to look at blue states since red states are doing the ground work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Tis true. We should have some sort of public school enrollment data by mid October. Many schools, particularly in the North, don't start until after Labor Day.

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 03:19 PM (E4rtv)

212 peaking of trying not to be fat, I had a pretty good leg day yesterday:

Squats:
1 set 290lbs x 8
2 sets 260lbs x 8
RDLs
2 sets 275lbs x 6
Split squats
4 sets bodyweight x 15 per side
Hamstring curls
3 sets 135lbs x 10
==
those cheeburgers when right to your ass

Posted by: Samurai Delicatessen at September 08, 2026 03:20 PM (anL5R)

213 > Bunch of mute points here. Ample Biblical evidence points to 2033 as the date of the end of all things visible.

1. Moot.
2. Show your work.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 08, 2026 03:20 PM (mkw2N)

214 204 193 Well, Glen Reynolds over at Insty maintains, a lot, that obesity, or “ fatness” if we are being Meany McMeanersons is now purely an option, with the advent of anti-fat wonder drugs. Oui oui Wegovy !!!
Posted by: tubal
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Glenn has issues on health and thinks he can live forever.

It might also be that he gets money promoting certain products.

Like any other sort of news service or government, you have to ask why they are telling you what they do and if they have some sort of agenda behind it.

Applies to the right as well as the left.
Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 03:18 PM (E4rtv)

There’s some guy, forget his name, who thinks much the same thing. He obsessively eats the perfect diet, and goes through some sort of rigid lifestyle routine.

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 03:20 PM (Gqar8)

215 I'm 5'14" myself


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Interesting....

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 03:20 PM (AKptf)

216 RDLs
2 sets 275lbs x 6
Split squats

The Lindsay Clancy jurors and protestors are doing RBFs 24/7.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at September 08, 2026 03:21 PM (PkrKm)

217 184. And I did it without drugs. Simple portion control and healthier diet. And it did take about 15 years. But I'm glad that I did it.
Posted by: Bulg

Great willpower. 👏🏻 Congrats.

Posted by: L - No nic... at September 08, 2026 03:21 PM (NFX2v)

218 1. Moot.
2. Show your work.
Posted by: bonhomme


moo point...

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 03:21 PM (AKptf)

219 Jesus said only the Father knows the time and place

Posted by: ... at September 08, 2026 03:21 PM (vE0+H)

220 There aren't enough Christians on the planet to save the liberal Jews of NYC from the mayor they voted for.

This is an internal problem for the Jewish community and no one else can help.

Posted by: The Truth at September 08, 2026 03:22 PM (cc+Kg)

221 2033: End of all things visible.
2037: Singularity.

And the dread thing that Publius warned us of recently:

"International timekeepers plan to phase out leap seconds by 2035 to prevent digital infrastructure failures"

Posted by: gp at September 08, 2026 03:22 PM (Jr5Lq)

222
Why Islam Grows Behind Bars. Conversions: A large number of individuals embrace Islam after entering the prison system, making it one of the fastest-growing faiths in correctional facilities.

Well, duh.

islam gives criminals carte blanche to rob, rape, and murder.

Furthermore, it promises them paradise for committing robbery, raape, and murder.

Which religion would appeal to the sociopath, the psychopath, and the jailbird.

One that says repent for your sins and crimes, and work to be a better person, or-

one that says commit all the rape, robbery, murder, and child molestation you want, just make sure your doing it too the right people,

and then paradise is yours!


Posted by: naturalfake at September 08, 2026 03:22 PM (iJfKG)

223 It's like a cow's opinion!

Posted by: bonhomme at September 08, 2026 03:22 PM (mkw2N)

224 "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only." [1]
Posted by: Crusader

The church has hidden behind that verse alone for centuries. The very next verse mentions "as it was in the days of Noah, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be". Did Noah know the date of the flood? Yes! Did Lot know the date of the destruction of Sodom and the cities of the plain? Yes!

Posted by: Don't Be An Ostrich at September 08, 2026 03:22 PM (Fn+3X)

225 😂😂

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 03:22 PM (AKptf)

226 Posted by: Paolo Simone
_________

Now do the Ilhan Omar version, 50 ways to leave your brother.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 08, 2026 03:23 PM (XvL8K)

227 This is an internal problem for the Jewish community and no one else can help.
Posted by: The Truth at September 08, 2026 03:22 PM (cc+Kg)


It's always the same story with you people.

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 03:23 PM (AKptf)

228 1. Moot.
2. Show your work.
Posted by: bonhomme


moo point...
-----

Its not worth having a cow over...

Posted by: Crusader at September 08, 2026 03:23 PM (TN0g+)

229 Yes, fatness is quantifiable, if you can see good muscular and body definition, you are not fat, the more your general physical shape becomes akin to a donut, the fatter you are.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 08, 2026 03:23 PM (Lm2uZ)

230 Horde, do we consider “ fat”? Is it quantifiable?

Katie Stout, the woman running against Brandon Herrera, is fat. That's the quantify.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 03:23 PM (2ocoG)

231 226 Posted by: Paolo Simone
_________

Now do the Ilhan Omar version, 50 ways to leave your brother.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 08, 2026 03:23 PM (XvL8K)

Heh. Good one!

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 03:24 PM (Gqar8)

232 It's always the same story with you people.
Posted by: runner

What do you mean "you people?"

Posted by: Kirk Lazarus at September 08, 2026 03:24 PM (PkrKm)

233 Posted by: Paolo Simone
_________

Now do the Ilhan Omar version, 50 ways to leave your brother.
-----

You just slip out the back, hack
Make a new plan Ilhan...

Posted by: Crusader at September 08, 2026 03:24 PM (TN0g+)

234 The standard metrics are chubby, overweight, fat, obese.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 08, 2026 03:24 PM (Lm2uZ)

235 I'm 6'5". I'm aiming for 220lbs.
----

Right, but like I pointed out, you're an outlier for sure. My point is, for the vast majority of people, they need to keep it under 190. That's all. Everyone likes to think they are "special" and "unique" and somehow none of these things apply to them.

I'm not trying to criticize, but when I realized I had to lose 70 pounds or so, I wasn't going to fuck around and take 15 years to do it. That would drive me crazy. Took about 8 months. Best thing I ever did for myself, most likely.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 08, 2026 03:24 PM (+/Ezd)

236 Jesus said only the Father knows the time and place
Posted by: ...

That has always perplexed me. It seems to elevate the Father over the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Which seems kind of Arian to me.

How do we explain the seeming contradiction of a Triune God with one of His Persons having more omniscience than the other two?

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 03:25 PM (77rzZ)

237 It's moo

c'mon you guys

Posted by: Don Black at September 08, 2026 03:25 PM (ZxPkt)

238 ****"What did this mean for the Muslim community? What did this mean for me?"
---

Sadly, it did not mean expulsion or deportation.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 08, 2026 03:25 PM (AJWch)

239 Which religion would appeal to the sociopath, the psychopath, and the jailbird.

One that says repent for your sins and crimes, and work to be a better person, or-

one that says commit all the rape, robbery, murder, and child molestation you want, just make sure your doing it too the right people,

and then paradise is yours!

But what about the grace alone people?
YOU CAN'T EARN SALVATION!!

Or even the Calvinists who say nobody has any choice at all. God wills you to be saved, or not. Good luck!

Posted by: bonhomme at September 08, 2026 03:25 PM (mkw2N)

240 229 Yes, fatness is quantifiable, if you can see good muscular and body definition, you are not fat, the more your general physical shape becomes akin to a donut, the fatter you are.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 08, 2026 03:23 PM (Lm2uZ)

Yes donuts are a valid indicator. Suddenly Joenesing for an apple fritter.

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 03:26 PM (Gqar8)

241 "No wonder it doesn't work. Look, 'Made in Japan.'"
-Doc Brown

"What are you talking about, Doc? All the best stuff is made in Japan."
-Marty McFly

It's from a documentary about the 1950s I saw once.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 02:35 PM (qE8uT)

Made in Japan = cheap was a meme in the 60s and early 70s.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 08, 2026 03:26 PM (uhVAy)

242 If there had only been a hellish backlash against muzzies, we would be in a much better society and world.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 08, 2026 03:26 PM (xvV+O)

243 Uh-Oh. Theology.

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 03:27 PM (Gqar8)

244 227 This is an internal problem for the Jewish community and no one else can help.
Posted by: The Truth at September 08, 2026 03:22 PM (cc+Kg)


It's always the same story with you people.
Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 03:23 PM (AKptf)

------------------------------
If 75% of Jews vote Democrat, then not enough Jews don't want Israel to exist.

It's sad, but Israel will not exist as long as it depends on Jews.

Other people can't fix that main problem for you. It's sad, but not untrue.

Posted by: The Truth at September 08, 2026 03:27 PM (cc+Kg)

245 nood

Posted by: gp at September 08, 2026 03:27 PM (Jr5Lq)

246 Made in Japan = cheap was a meme in the 60s and early 70s.
-----

Made in Japan also has an epic version of Child in Time and the single best recording of Highway Star ever produced.

Posted by: Crusader at September 08, 2026 03:28 PM (TN0g+)

247 Other people can't fix that main problem for you. It's sad, but not untrue.
Posted by: The Truth at September 08, 2026 03:27 PM (cc+Kg)



I can fix something for you. Stop sucking Tucker Carlson's dick. Then life will make sense to you.

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 03:28 PM (AKptf)

248 "Somehow, after 911 our government decided to import as many muscles over here as possible. Before that I rarely saw Muslims now I see them all over the place all the time."

I saw my first hijab in NYC around 1999. It was a film industry event and we were all laughing about her. Well, who's laughing now?

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at September 08, 2026 03:28 PM (GMWTj)

249
Muslims claiming to be aggrieved? Ask the Blacks who were shoved out of the head of the free shit line by the millions of Hispanics how they feel.

Aggrieved.... ain't but the start of what the Blacks think about the Muslim invaders. The ethnic cleansing wars that seem to be on the horizon are going to be lit.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 08, 2026 03:10 PM (2Cry5)


Check out the demographics for Compton. In 1980, it was about 75% Black, 20% Hispanic, the remainder were White and Asian. 40 years later, it's now about 75% Hispanic, 25% Black, with virtually no Whites or Asians.

Why? Illegal alien Hispanics moving there was part of it, but in the early 2000s, there was a nasty underground racial war being fought in Compton by Black and Hispanic gangs that the Black population lost. They didn't just lose, they got their asses kicked. Ethnic cleansing in the US with not a single White face being involved.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 08, 2026 03:29 PM (y9nCu)

250 The church has hidden behind that verse alone for centuries. The very next verse mentions "as it was in the days of Noah, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be". Did Noah know the date of the flood? Yes! Did Lot know the date of the destruction of Sodom and the cities of the plain? Yes!

Yeah, I think both sides tend to miss the mark on this one. Some people say nobody has any idea. Others say they know the exact date.

I believe the better interpretation is yes, we don't know the date or the hour, but we can watch the signs and know the season.

See also the parable of the wise and foolish virgins. They both knew the approximate time of the bridegroom's arrival. One group was prepared and the other was not. But neither knew the exact time of arrival.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 08, 2026 03:29 PM (mkw2N)

251 Guys did I just engage a troll? Why didn't stop me ??

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 03:30 PM (AKptf)

252 229. The more your general physical shape becomes akin to a donut, the fatter you are.

Posted by: Thomas Bender

How about an apple? 😞

Posted by: L - No nic... at September 08, 2026 03:30 PM (NFX2v)

253 That has always perplexed me. It seems to elevate the Father over the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Which seems kind of Arian to me.

How do we explain the seeming contradiction of a Triune God with one of His Persons having more omniscience than the other two?
Posted by: Bulg
=======
Different aspects. Remember that at the time Jesus said that, he was human and of the flesh. He had to be so he could die.

Using your argument, how could God die then and still be part of the triune. Neither the Holy Spirit nor the Lord can 'die' so how could Jesus if he was part of the triune.

If you assume different aspects of the triuine, then neither Jesus in the flesh who did not claim omniscience at that time nor his dying present a problem.

Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 03:30 PM (E4rtv)

254 Commenters, don't allow other commenters to engage fucking lying trolls!

Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 03:31 PM (AKptf)

255 Blah blah blah.

These sandmaggots run wild time and again. "ALLAHU AKBAR DEATH TO YOUR CHRISTMAS PARADES, MUSIC FESTIVALS, AND CIVIL INSTITUTIONS," they scream, and then there's a bunch of explosions, gunfire, and/or vehicular homicides, and then their stump-ugly retard wives scream "LALULALULALU" through their fucked-up looking teeth.

And time and again, we're treated to breathless editorials about why they hate us, and roots of terror, and compassionate conservatism, and invade the world, and invite the world - and that's the side that doesn't agitate actively against America, the West, and the Eternal Jew.

If there's ever a backlash from civilized people against these barbaric savages I'll literally eat a hat. I'll buy a giant straw sombrero and boil it and eat it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 08, 2026 03:31 PM (BI5O2)

256 247 Other people can't fix that main problem for you. It's sad, but not untrue.
Posted by: The Truth at September 08, 2026 03:27 PM (cc+Kg)



I can fix something for you. Stop sucking Tucker Carlson's dick. Then life will make sense to you.
Posted by: runner at September 08, 2026 03:28 PM (AKptf)

===================

The answer isn't end Tucker Carlson's career.

The answer is convincing your people that voting for Republicans is healthier than voting for democrats.

If you achieve that, Mamdani goes away. Islam goes away.

But that's the only way out of this.

Posted by: The Truth at September 08, 2026 03:31 PM (cc+Kg)

257 So if you live in a blue state and/or some blue cities in the US, sucks to be you because your governments are trying to keep illegals here. If you live in a lot of redstates, they aren't. So those in California notice little if no improvement and those in somewhere like Alabama, substantial improvement.
Posted by: whig at September 08, 2026 03:11 PM (E4rtv)

The funny part is that Trump can claim 3M, and the blue states can't refute it because it exposes their evasion of immigration law.

Just like in his first term all the fudging they did in the standard statistics to boost Obama served to make his economy seem super energized in comparison.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 08, 2026 03:33 PM (uhVAy)

258 189.

Slipped out the back, Jacques
Made a new plan, Stanislaus
No need to be coy, Choy
Just listen Dupuy
Posted by: Paolo Simone

Fabulous. 👌🏻

Posted by: L - No nic... at September 08, 2026 03:34 PM (NFX2v)

259 Guys did I just engage a troll? Why didn't stop me ??
==
Don't look at me. I was: who was PHONE guy.

Posted by: Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck at September 08, 2026 03:35 PM (anL5R)

260 On the other hand, if you keep scolding Republicans while the rest of your people continue to vote for Muslim Democrats...


...then Israel goes away.

The choice is yours.

Posted by: The Truth at September 08, 2026 03:35 PM (cc+Kg)

261 The answer isn't end Tucker Carlson's career.

The answer is convincing your people that voting for Republicans is healthier than voting for democrats.

If you achieve that, Mamdani goes away. Islam goes away.

==
I feel like embracing the power of "and" on this one.

Posted by: He's kaput at September 08, 2026 03:37 PM (anL5R)

262 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 08, 2026 02:51 PM (XJ22o)

I can see him firing up some 'Born in the USA' and running through the crowd carrying an American Flag; wearing one of those stars and strips polyester suits like the used car salesman used to wear; preach, Dommy Mommy! Tell us how we deserved it!

Posted by: Nelly at September 08, 2026 03:48 PM (6+ehB)

263 "Go away, Saracen, or I shall taunt you with bacon!"

Posted by: Anita Lynn DeHayes-Tacke at September 08, 2026 04:26 PM (HN9JN)

264 Dang it! I missed the Tucker Carlson thread on algebra!

I was busy doing my actual job--teaching students (but not teaching them algebra...)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 08, 2026 05:51 PM (FZ29D)

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