Complete Transection Of The Spinal Cord At T5-T6

Being confined to a wheelchair is a difficult proposition for even the most self-reliant and strong-willed people.

Here is a list of issues that I culled from the internet. They don't seem very pleasant, and leading any semblance of a full life with an injury such as this requires a fair amount of assistance, regular medical care, physical therapy, and undoubtedly psychological support, whether from formal providers or close friends and family.

Complete paralysis of both legs

Loss of sensation below approximately the mid-chest

Normal arm and hand function

Loss of voluntary bladder and bowel control

Sexual dysfunction

Initially flaccid, areflexic legs (spinal shock)

Later development of spasticity and increased reflexes

Loss of normal sweating and temperature regulation below the injury

Impaired trunk and postural control

Autonomic dysfunction, including abnormal blood-pressure and heart-rate responses

Risk of autonomic dysreflexia with injuries at or above T6

That is not to say that it can't be done. There are far too many successful, well adjusted people in wheelchairs to assume that it is impossible.

In college I roomed with several students in wheelchairs, and their injuries ranged from very low on the spine, to so high up that one required assistance breathing. They dealt with their injuries and their lives just like everyone else. It was a continuum, with a few who were amazingly independent and charged through the days, to one who was a passive slug who demanded that others do everything for him. So...pretty much like all of humanity!

Why do I mention this? Well, there is a woman in the news with a total transection at T5-T6, and I wonder whether there might be some justice in her future, even if it might not come from our legal system.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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1 Good afternoon everyone

Posted by: Skip at September 06, 2026 12:00 PM (Ia/+0)

2 So this is the Saxony-Anhalt poll thread?

Posted by: Skip at September 06, 2026 12:02 PM (Ia/+0)

3 Earlier this morning I went to a World War Two thread and a Book Thread broke out.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 06, 2026 12:03 PM (2Ez/1)

4 AfD: 44.5%
CDU: 18.5%
Die Linke: 9.5%
SPD: 8%
FDP: 2%
Greens: 9%

Posted by: Dr. T at September 06, 2026 12:04 PM (lHPJf)

5 F-1 Williams president Frank Williams was a quadriplegic for many years, still went to every race and ran tje operations. Of course suspect money wasn't a issue.

Posted by: Skip at September 06, 2026 12:04 PM (Ia/+0)

6 Translated into plain English, the AfD should be right on the doorstep of an absolute majority. Hard to say; it depends on how the exact numbers shake out.

Posted by: Dr. T at September 06, 2026 12:05 PM (lHPJf)

7 @5 And then there was Alex Zanardi.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 06, 2026 12:10 PM (zdLoL)

8 And once it happens, the 'inner voice questions' start coming up: How long? Will I ever walk again? Is there any kind of operation that can make me whole again? Thing is, I CAN imagine being forced to live like that - and it's not a pretty picture. If we're all relatively 'healthy' and 'mobile', just thank God for letting us live as normal a life as possible.

Posted by: Dr_No at September 06, 2026 12:10 PM (ayRl+)

9 It's God's mercy to her, giving her a chance to experience helplessness and dependence on others, and have some remorse.

Posted by: vmom deport deport stab deport at September 06, 2026 12:12 PM (WA6YU)

10 I saw some speculation that she figured that the jump from the second story window would not kill her, but look like an actual attempt. But she did not account for the frozen ground and landed head first.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 12:12 PM (Y/06r)

11 May every painful moment be a reminder of the evil she did.

Posted by: Piper at September 06, 2026 12:13 PM (ZdaMQ)

12 "MAID has a simple solution for those of you in this condition" Canada

Posted by: illiniwek at September 06, 2026 12:13 PM (vbXSk)

13 9 It's God's mercy to her, giving her a chance to experience helplessness and dependence on others, and have some remorse.
Posted by: vmom deport deport stab deport at September 06, 2026 12:12 PM (WA6YU)

Reliance on others? Oh, like her leading her children one by one to the basement and strangling them?

All while carrying out a conversation on the phone with her husband who was out getting her food and meds.

There are a lot of notches in the evil column.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 12:14 PM (Y/06r)

14 What must life be like for her husband?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 06, 2026 12:15 PM (2Ez/1)

15 Another fascinating/horrifying thing about this is the fact that she was a maternity nurse. NONE of this would/should have come as a surprise to her.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 12:16 PM (Y/06r)

16 Thought experiment.

https://tinyurl.com/5xwc4p4x

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 06, 2026 12:17 PM (ndZc7)

17 I'd never get epidural injections or surgery in the thoracic or cervical spine unless I was at high risk for paralysis and it was a last resort. Lumbar, maybe. The spinal canal narrows significantly from lumbar to cervical. Much less room for error or bad technique.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 06, 2026 12:17 PM (XvL8K)

18 14 What must life be like for her husband?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 06, 2026 12:15 PM (2Ez/1)

Even the relation of the 911 call where he finds her outside, then goes to check on the kids and finds them is heartwrenching. It is a man experiencing his life just ending.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 12:17 PM (Y/06r)

19 16 Thought experiment.

https://tinyurl.com/5xwc4p4x
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 06, 2026 12:17 PM (ndZc7)

THIS.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 12:18 PM (Y/06r)

20 Jeez, leisurely catching up on book thread comments when I see I must rush here for the Saxony election poll results. There goes my relaxing Sunday.

Posted by: From about That Time at September 06, 2026 12:18 PM (sl73Y)

21 What must life be like for her husband?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

Why he did it.

Maryam
@hell_line0
Just to clarify:

Patrick Clancy walked away with his 400k Microsoft job, the 1.7M gofundme, a life insurance payout on all 3 kids, and funds from the sale of the house, plus a new wife and a new kid,

Meanwhile, Lindsay Clancy is left with no kids, no money, no house, no job, no legs, and maybe no freedom.

Where PC would have paid millions for alimony / child support in divorce, he makes 4-6 million off of their deaths.

Money is the root of 90% of crime, but that’s not suspicious to police?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 06, 2026 12:19 PM (ndZc7)

22 >>I'd never get epidural injections or surgery in the thoracic or cervical spine unless I was at high risk for paralysis and it was a last resort. Lumbar, maybe. The spinal canal narrows significantly from lumbar to cervical. Much less room for error or bad technique.

Been there. Done that. Got the t-shirt.

You'd be surprised how motivated to get surgery you get when your body stops working.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 06, 2026 12:20 PM (viF8m)

23 Meanwhile, Lindsay Clancy is left with no kids, no money, no house, no job, no legs, and maybe no freedom.

Where PC would have paid millions for alimony / child support in divorce, he makes 4-6 million off of their deaths.

Money is the root of 90% of crime, but that’s not suspicious to police?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 06, 2026 12:19 PM (ndZc7)

SHE killed the kids- you retard! OF COUSE she walks away without any kids!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 12:20 PM (Y/06r)

24 Not you, wrecks. The tweeter.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 12:21 PM (Y/06r)

25 A complete transection of several of the cervical vertebrae could fix her.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 06, 2026 12:22 PM (1z8ji)

26 As someone who has managed to break my back, I am quite grateful for it not having been worse. The but for the grace of God kind of thing.

Posted by: From about That Time at September 06, 2026 12:22 PM (sl73Y)

27 I've seen a lot of spinals, Dude, and this one is a fake.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 06, 2026 12:23 PM (bX16E)

28 25 A complete transection of several of the cervical vertebrae could fix her.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 06, 2026 12:22 PM (1z8ji)

Long drop and a short stop.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 12:23 PM (Y/06r)

29 New Girl Scout uniforms.

https://tinyurl.com/4sfc2utb

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 06, 2026 12:24 PM (ndZc7)

30 Can't you just wind an exercise band very tightly around the affected area and call it good?

Posted by: Practical Solutions, Inc. at September 06, 2026 12:25 PM (Fn+3X)

31 Justice is Matthew 18:6.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 06, 2026 12:25 PM (bX16E)

32 Juvenile delinquent.

10- and 12-year-old sisters criminally charged after playground swing breaks during play

https://tinyurl.com/4sfc2utb

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 06, 2026 12:26 PM (ndZc7)

33 14 What must life be like for her husband?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 06, 2026

It obviously is something he is going to carry with him. He just ran a marathon wearing something from each child. He has started a foundation, The Heard Foundation, for maternal mental health care. He did a memorial playground.

It’s pretty awful for people to say he had an affair and got married right away, he didn’t. It was 3 years later.

Posted by: Piper at September 06, 2026 12:26 PM (ZdaMQ)

34 A complete transection of several of the cervical vertebrae could fix her.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 06, 2026 12:22 PM (1z8ji)

If only there were any metal implements that could accomplish that. I'm picturing something long, with a finely honed edge to it. Preferably dropped from a significant height.

Posted by: Dr. T at September 06, 2026 12:27 PM (lHPJf)

35 Thought experiment.

https://tinyurl.com/5xwc4p4x
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,

Who boy, is that the truth. And if one was stupid enough to, there would be consequences.

Posted by: From about That Time at September 06, 2026 12:27 PM (sl73Y)

36 If only there were any metal implements that could accomplish that. I'm picturing something long, with a finely honed edge to it. Preferably dropped from a significant height.
Posted by: Dr. T at September 06, 2026 12:27 PM (lHPJf)

Madam Guillotine?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 12:28 PM (Y/06r)

37 AfD: 44.5%
CDU: 18.5%
Die Linke: 9.5%
SPD: 8%
FDP: 2%
Greens: 9%

I know AfD is the so-called "far right" but what are the others? I wonder how they'll try to spin and/or cheat this one.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 06, 2026 12:28 PM (vTZFs)

38 Afternoon everyone, thx CBD.
The fact that there are insane white women still blaming the husband shows we may need a few more T5-T6 transactions

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 06, 2026 12:28 PM (M9Oed)

39 Had a friend who became a shopping cart after a hunting accident involving booze, horseplay and guns but mainly booze and horseplay left him without the use of his legs. He used to get UTI's all the time and of course ultimately died after about 5 years of rolling himself around town.

Lindsay will have it bad and hopefully will die soon. Good riddance.

Posted by: Take The Human Garbage Out at September 06, 2026 12:29 PM (HFAps)

40 What must life be like for her husband?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 06, 2026 12:15 PM (2Ez/1)

Conventional thought today is it's all his fault but he's living it up with the insurance money, hookers, and blow.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 06, 2026 12:29 PM (y1Zd/)

41 Dryer buzzer just went off. Time to put some pants on (sshhh....don't tell book thread) and get some groceries.

Posted by: From about That Time at September 06, 2026 12:30 PM (sl73Y)

42 Money is the root of 90% of crime, but that’s not suspicious to police?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 06, 2026 12:19 PM (ndZc7)

This is the dumbest post, which is why you sent it for us to wonder at how someone this idiotic walks amongst us. No, Patrick doesn’t get the money. He is divorced. It goes to her parents for her care when / if she is free. It should go to the children’s foundation. And why shouldn’t he keep his job? It was his job - and the job that provided Lindsay the ability to have the amount of support and help she did.

Posted by: Piper at September 06, 2026 12:30 PM (ZdaMQ)

43 I know AfD is the so-called "far right" but what are the others? I wonder how they'll try to spin and/or cheat this one.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 06, 2026 12:28 PM (vTZFs)

CDU is Christian Democrats, i.e. the RINOs.
Die Linke (literally, "The Left") and the SPD (Social Democrats) are left-wing, the Greens speak for themselves, and the FDP are too small to matter.

Right now, it looks like the AfD will be one seat short of an absolute majority, but this is the first exit poll; historically, these are broadly accurate in German elections, but the final numbers could edge up or down a bit, and that could be significant. It's still not impossible that the AfD does get a majority, though I doubt it.

Posted by: Dr. T at September 06, 2026 12:31 PM (lHPJf)

44 I saw some speculation that she figured that the jump from the second story window would not kill her, but look like an actual attempt. But she did not account for the frozen ground and landed head first.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 12:12 PM (Y/06r)

That is my belief. No reasonably healthy adult would expect to be seriously injured or killed from jumping from a second story window. Broken arm or leg, maybe... paralysis or death, never.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 06, 2026 12:32 PM (ExV1e)

45 Remembering 9/11.

Mayor Zohran Mamdani signed an executive order recognizing 9/11 Friday — and then gave the symbolic pen to his controversial aide who once represented an al-Qaeda terrorist with links to the attack on the Pentagon.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 06, 2026 12:32 PM (ndZc7)

46 Has the Saxony begun to hate?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 06, 2026 12:34 PM (Cqx++)

47 Remembering 9/11.

Mayor Zohran Mamdani signed an executive order recognizing 9/11 Friday — and then gave the symbolic pen to his controversial aide who once represented an al-Qaeda terrorist with links to the attack on the Pentagon.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible

A deliberate gesture to rub it in our faces. What a scumbag.

Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2026 12:35 PM (lJ0H4)

48 So, Transections of The Spinal Cord are today's First World Problem?

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 06, 2026 12:35 PM (zdLoL)

49 "Money is the root of 90% of crime, but that’s not suspicious to police?"

SHE killed the kids- you retard! OF COUSE she walks away without any kids!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 12:20 PM (Y/06r)

There is a set of women who are desperate to believe that the husband killed the kids. Oh, she said that she killed the kids because HE told her that she did, etc. Because a woman would never kill her child... you, know, other than the millions killed by abortion.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 06, 2026 12:36 PM (ExV1e)

50 So, Transections of The Spinal Cord are today's First World Problem?
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver

FWPs come later.

Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2026 12:36 PM (lJ0H4)

51 You'd be surprised how motivated to get surgery you get when your body stops working.
Posted by: JackStraw
________

I hope it all worked out for you. I've got an osteophyte in the lumbar spine that has laid me low for weeks at a time, but I'm not willing to have surgery or even epidural injections to address it.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 06, 2026 12:37 PM (XvL8K)

52 This is the dumbest post, which is why you sent it for us to wonder at how someone this idiotic walks amongst us. No, Patrick doesn’t get the money. He is divorced. It goes to her parents for her care when / if she is free. It should go to the children’s foundation. And why shouldn’t he keep his job? It was his job - and the job that provided Lindsay the ability to have the amount of support and help she did.
Posted by: Piper at September 06, 2026 12:30 PM (ZdaMQ)

That tweet is so over the top, it just might be satire.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 06, 2026 12:37 PM (1z8ji)

53 Visiting mom and dad

Posted by: Skip at September 06, 2026 12:37 PM (qEb4U)

54 Deadbolt escutcheons are later in the day.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 06, 2026 12:38 PM (2Ez/1)

55 Don't drink and fly.

“Passenger From Hell”: Belligerent Passenger Duct-Taped to Seat on American Airlines Flight

https://tinyurl.com/5hm73hfn

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 06, 2026 12:38 PM (ndZc7)

56 That tweet is so over the top, it just might be satire.

At least it didn't refer to astrology. Now, whether that makes it more or less likely to be satire is left as an exercise for the reader.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 06, 2026 12:39 PM (vTZFs)

57 I was once a care provider for a man who, getting out of bed one day, slipped on a throw rug, hit the back of his head on the bed and wound up with a very high spinal break. In fact, I believe that he was, at the time, the only person with a break that high who was able to get off of a ventilator.

He was Lutheran and I once asked him what he was giving up for Lent. "Sex," he said with grin. He was an interesting guy.

Also -- Always tape down your throw rugs.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 06, 2026 12:39 PM (0MjtC)

58 So, Transections of The Spinal Cord are today's First World Problem?

Finally, a FWP that a little FlexSeal won't fix.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 06, 2026 12:39 PM (4Je4D)

59 It’s pretty awful for people to say he had an affair and got married right away, he didn’t. It was 3 years later.
Posted by: Piper at September 06, 2026 12:26 PM (ZdaMQ)

He was living in Massachusetts, working from home. His new wife is a doctor in NYC. They, apparently, began dating in February of 2024 - over a year after the murders. People are idiots.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 06, 2026 12:40 PM (ExV1e)

60
That is my belief. No reasonably healthy adult would expect to be seriously injured or killed from jumping from a second story window. Broken arm or leg, maybe... paralysis or death, never.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 06, 2026 12:32 PM (ExV1e)

__________

The LD50 for falls is 4 stories, about 50 feet. A fall from 2 stories has a 90+% survivability rate.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 06, 2026 12:41 PM (eRlcH)

61 >>I hope it all worked out for you. I've got an osteophyte in the lumbar spine that has laid me low for weeks at a time, but I'm not willing to have surgery or even epidural injections to address it.

Thanks. Work in progress.

I started seeing a chiropractor when I was in high school and he kept me mostly upright for years. But it got to the point where I was having trouble walking which was problematic. I was dead set against having surgery too but I kind of ran out of options.

Tried the epidurals but they lasted for a while and they became increasingly ineffective. I agree, don't have surgery unless you have no choice but if you do chose your surgeon wisely.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 06, 2026 12:43 PM (viF8m)

62 In the tree biz, the magic number is 40 feet.
Few die under, most die over that height.

Posted by: MkY at September 06, 2026 12:43 PM (q6tQZ)

63 Tried the epidurals but they lasted for a while and they became increasingly ineffective. I agree, don't have surgery unless you have no choice but if you do chose your surgeon wisely.
Posted by: JackStraw

I couldn't agree more. The guy who did my hips had more people having him fix prior surgeries than new patients. My guy!

Posted by: MkY at September 06, 2026 12:45 PM (q6tQZ)

64 Should have said, "...in the waiting room..."

Posted by: MkY at September 06, 2026 12:45 PM (q6tQZ)

65 In the tree biz, the magic number is 40 feet.
Few die under, most die over that height.

I imagine there's a gray zone where you probably didn't die but probably wish you had.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 06, 2026 12:46 PM (vTZFs)

66 19 16 Thought experiment.

https://tinyurl.com/5xwc4p4x
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 06, 2026 12:17 PM (ndZc7)

THIS.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 12:18 PM (Y/06r)

Yep. Chris Watts got fan mail, marriage proposals and sexy photos from all kinds of wimminz while in prison for strangling his pregnant wife and two daughters to death. Think he got married while imprisoned too. Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker, a serial rapist and murderer of men women boys and girls got letters, nudie pics, propositions, and trial groupies. Jeff Dahmer - serial killer, cannibal, homosexual - got fan mail and pics and all that from wimminz too. Men, by contrast, don't do shit like this.

Posted by: Hybristophilia ain't just a river in Egypt at September 06, 2026 12:48 PM (TbWk/)

67 Tried the epidurals but they lasted for a while and they became increasingly ineffective. I agree, don't have surgery unless you have no choice but if you do chose your surgeon wisely.
Posted by: JackStraw
_________

They're especially dangerous in the thoracic spine. There's a blood vessel, the artery of adamkiewicz, that varies considerably in location and if they hit it you're totally screwed.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 06, 2026 12:50 PM (XvL8K)

68 Yep. Chris Watts got fan mail, marriage proposals and sexy photos from all kinds of wimminz while in prison for strangling his pregnant wife and two daughters to death. Think he got married while imprisoned too. Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker, a serial rapist and murderer of men women boys and girls got letters, nudie pics, propositions, and trial groupies. Jeff Dahmer - serial killer, cannibal, homosexual - got fan mail and pics and all that from wimminz too. Men, by contrast, don't do shit like this.
Posted by: Hybristophilia
--------

Charlie Manson also, I believe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 06, 2026 12:51 PM (XeU6L)

69 I imagine there's a gray zone where you probably didn't die but probably wish you had.
Posted by: Oddbob

I fell from a snag (tree with only trunk left) when I was 16. We used hemp rope then, and the far side peeled (didn't cut it enough). The rope started pulling me toward the trunk, and I fed it as fast as I could through my climbing hitch, then it snapped. Around 30 feet. Landed flat on my back in irrigated ground.
I couldn't believe I wasn't hurt. But I wasn't. I've been blessed more than once.

Posted by: MkY at September 06, 2026 12:51 PM (q6tQZ)

70 I fell from a snag (tree with only trunk left) when I was 16. We used hemp rope then, and the far side peeled (didn't cut it enough). The rope started pulling me toward the trunk, and I fed it as fast as I could through my climbing hitch, then it snapped. Around 30 feet. Landed flat on my back in irrigated ground.
I couldn't believe I wasn't hurt. But I wasn't. I've been blessed more than once.
Posted by: MkY at September 06, 2026 12:51 PM (q6tQZ)

Did you get up saying: 'I am going to feel that shit in 30 years'?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 12:53 PM (Y/06r)

71 Lindsay Clancy left out one very very important thing in her planning.

Practicing parachute landing falls.

I say, good.

Posted by: Gref at September 06, 2026 12:54 PM (5rh/l)

72 Did you get up saying: 'I am going to feel that shit in 30 years'?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Never occurred to me. I do fifty some-odd years later, though.
All of it. Every screw up, every near miss. Every "Hey, watch this!"

Posted by: MkY at September 06, 2026 12:57 PM (q6tQZ)

73 Robert Wickens, former IndyCar driver. Paralyzed from the waist down after a horrific crash at Pocono.

Currently drives sports cars in the IMSA series using a specially designed steering wheel that combines accelerator, break, shifting, etc.

The current race car is a 2026 Corvette.

The work on his race setup has implications for others with similar injuries who wish to be self sufficient, drive themselves, etc.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 06, 2026 12:57 PM (2Cry5)

74 Why jump from a window? She was a nurse right?

She could have easily killed herself if she really wanted. I hope she does a better job next time.

Posted by: Cyanide at September 06, 2026 01:00 PM (HFAps)

75 The work on his race setup has implications for others with similar injuries who wish to be self sufficient, drive themselves, etc.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Had a friend in High School who was in a minor car accident. Didn't want to go the hospital. EMT's made him. Walked in. Doctors told him he had a broken back and needed surgery. He and family resisted. They convince them.
Came out without the use of his arms. Imagine the payout.
Anyway, he had a van that he could drive with limited arm use. Was a hoot when he drank.

Posted by: MkY at September 06, 2026 01:01 PM (q6tQZ)

76 Why jump from a window? She was a nurse right?

She could have easily killed herself if she really wanted. I hope she does a better job next time.
Posted by: Cyanide at September 06, 2026 01:00 PM (HFAps)

She slashed her wrists, too. The wrong way to bleed out. She was not trying to kill herself. She was play-acting suicide attempts in an effort to gain sympathy and/or bolster an insanity defence.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 06, 2026 01:03 PM (1z8ji)

77
Men, by contrast, don't do shit like this.
Posted by: Hybristophilia

=================

I can't believe this post. You named Richard Ramirez, Charlie Manson, Chris Watts, and Jeffrey Dahmer in a post intended to demonstrate that women are worse creatures than men.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 06, 2026 01:03 PM (PaUbV)

78 She slashed her wrists, too. The wrong way to bleed out. She was not trying to kill herself. She was play-acting suicide attempts in an effort to gain sympathy and/or bolster an insanity defence.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 06, 2026 01:03 PM (1z8ji)

Having seen photos, I think 'slashed' is more appropriate.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 06, 2026 01:04 PM (ExV1e)

79 Those poor kiddos. Imagine the terror. The absolute feeling of betrayal. Helplessness.

Ugh.

I hope she hears their pleas and screams every moment for the rest of her miserable life.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 06, 2026 01:06 PM (aJVMf)

80 At least we know she won't be having any more kids.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 06, 2026 01:06 PM (syz1S)

81 But it got to the point where I was having trouble walking which was problematic.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 06, 2026 12:43 PM (viF8m)

Dude...maybe putting down the bong every now and then would help!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 06, 2026 01:06 PM (k5CNB)

82 I'm more worried by all the crazies out there that support her murder of her children while at the same time demonizing her husband and blaming him for the murders. This is the kind of madness that gets termed Mass psychogenic illness/mass hysteria...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 06, 2026 01:07 PM (l3cgK)

83 80 At least we know she won't be having any more kids.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 06, 2026 01:06 PM (syz1S)

Is she fixed?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 06, 2026 01:08 PM (l3cgK)

84 81 But it got to the point where I was having trouble walking which was problematic.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 06, 2026 12:43 PM (viF8m)

Dude...maybe putting down the bong every now and then would help!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 06, 2026 01:06 PM (k5CNB)

Man leaves a bar, completely drunk. He tries to stand up, but can't stay up, and keeps falling down, so he drags himself home, trying to be a quiet as possible before pulling himself up into bed without waking his wife.
The next morning, the wife asks, "You went drinking again last night didn't you?"
He responds, "How did you know?"
She says, "The bar called; you left your wheelchair there again."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 06, 2026 01:10 PM (l3cgK)

85 I hope she hears their pleas and screams every moment for the rest of her miserable life.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 06, 2026 01:06 PM (aJVMf)

I doubt she will, nurse. I think this is a true psychopath. I doubt she thinks much about them at all. They are objects, passages in her story, nothing more.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 01:10 PM (Y/06r)

86 I can't believe this post. You named Richard Ramirez, Charlie Manson, Chris Watts, and Jeffrey Dahmer in a post intended to demonstrate that women are worse creatures than men.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 06, 2026 01:03 PM (PaUbV)

The "thing" being done as described above is women being attracted to evil murderers who are imprisoned. Or women being fans of Lindsay Clancy. Instances of men becoming groupies for female monsters seem to be very rare.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 06, 2026 01:10 PM (1z8ji)

87 Dude...maybe putting down the bong every now and then would help!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 06, 2026 01:06 PM (k5CNB)

You're not supposed to keep moving the hookah with you from room to room.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 06, 2026 01:11 PM (Y/06r)

88 >>Dude...maybe putting down the bong every now and then would help!

True story. When I had my first back surgery there were 2 doctors in the practice. One of them quit because as he told me he didn't go to med school to push drugs on people.

He went to work for the state helping run the medical weed industry.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 06, 2026 01:11 PM (viF8m)

89 78 She slashed her wrists, too. The wrong way to bleed out. She was not trying to kill herself. She was play-acting suicide attempts in an effort to gain sympathy and/or bolster an insanity defence.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 06, 2026 01:03 PM (1z8ji)

Having seen photos, I think 'slashed' is more appropriate.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 06, 2026 01:04 PM (ExV1e)

I heard they were very shallow cuts...but it's what I've heard. I hate stories like this...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 06, 2026 01:11 PM (l3cgK)

90 88 >>Dude...maybe putting down the bong every now and then would help!

True story. When I had my first back surgery there were 2 doctors in the practice. One of them quit because as he told me he didn't go to med school to push drugs on people.

He went to work for the state helping run the medical weed industry.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 06, 2026 01:11 PM (viF8m)

Well, he's not pushing drugs on people...they come willingly to buy...LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 06, 2026 01:12 PM (l3cgK)

91 >>Well, he's not pushing drugs on people...they come willingly to buy...LOL

Boy howdy. It's become quite the industry.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 06, 2026 01:15 PM (viF8m)

92 Well, he's not pushing drugs on people...they come willingly to buy...LOL
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 06, 2026 01:12 PM (l3cgK)

Oh, it's being pushed alright. Look how many dispensaries claim that their product will cure everything from hypertension to hemorrhoids. If all the claims about the medical efficacy of pot were true, broke doctors in droves would be hurling themselves from the tops of high buildings.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 06, 2026 01:17 PM (1z8ji)

93 83 80 At least we know she won't be having any more kids.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 06, 2026 01:06 PM (syz1S)

Is she fixed?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 06, 2026 01:08 PM (l3cgK)

Reading the bullet points in the op, I don't see how she could get pregnant, carry it to term, and then deliver a baby. So, yeah, I would say she's fixed in a non-traditional way.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 06, 2026 01:17 PM (syz1S)

94 Want an interesting aside? Vintage newspaper article re Lizzie Borden's trial:
https://famous-trials.com/lizzieborden/1426-news15

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 06, 2026 01:17 PM (XeU6L)

95 Why do I mention this? Well, there is a woman in the news with a total transection at T5-T6, and I wonder whether there might be some justice in her future, even if it might not come from our legal system.
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On the taxpayer's dime.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 06, 2026 01:18 PM (QNSrI)

96 Money is the root of 90% of crime, but that’s not suspicious to police?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 06, 2026 12:19 PM (ndZc7)

She admitted she killed her children, meanwhile she had sent her husband, their father, elsewhere so he couldn’t interfere with her plans. This is all on the record. You may be woke, but you’re not awake. Wake up!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 06, 2026 01:18 PM (zeRnp)

97 Look how many dispensaries claim that their product will cure everything from hypertension to hemorrhoids.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 06, 2026 01:17 PM (1z8ji)
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/tries not to imagine inserting a lit joint down there

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 06, 2026 01:20 PM (QNSrI)

98 Pretty sure both Heroin and Cocaine at one time were sold as OTC remedies for the Morphine habit.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 06, 2026 01:20 PM (VPdQq)

99 I find it hard to understand, and I'm really not interested in doing so... but this woman, Clancy who murdered her kids, had a nanny. And still couldn't cope. So her husband setup a home office to help out. She still couldn't cope.

She obviously had completely checked out years ago.

*shrugs* I mean... signs were there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 06, 2026 01:23 PM (2Cry5)

100 She obviously had completely checked out years ago.

*shrugs* I mean... signs were there.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

I wonder what her social media and search histories looked like.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 06, 2026 01:25 PM (qtjaJ)

101 100 She obviously had completely checked out years ago.

*shrugs* I mean... signs were there.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

I wonder what her social media and search histories looked like.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 06, 2026 01:25 PM (qtjaJ)

Did she do web searches?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 06, 2026 01:26 PM (l3cgK)

102 Can't we board her on a higher floor and give her an opportunity to try again? Is insanity a one-time deal? Did she get better this quickly?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 06, 2026 01:28 PM (eP2ub)

103 If there's no plea bargain and a second trial is started l wonder how may of the pink lunatics will show up outside the court. Or will they have moved on to the next outrage?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 06, 2026 01:30 PM (M9Oed)

104 /tries not to imagine inserting a lit joint down there
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Whole new dimension to skunk weed.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at September 06, 2026 01:31 PM (Fv808)

105 Pretty sure both Heroin and Cocaine at one time were sold as OTC remedies for the Morphine habit.
Posted by: Common Tater

"Druggist, I can't stop drinking beer. Got anything?" "Here, try some scotch."

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at September 06, 2026 01:32 PM (Fv808)

106 I hope she hears their pleas and screams every moment for the rest of her miserable life.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 06, 2026 01:06 PM (aJVMf)

She won't. She is a sociopath.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 06, 2026 01:33 PM (k5CNB)

107 104 /tries not to imagine inserting a lit joint down there
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Whole new dimension to skunk weed.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at September 06, 2026 01:31 PM (Fv80

It's an old technique called anal insufflation...was used hundreds of years ago to try to resuscitate drowning victims...imagine someone dropping the drawers of a drowning victim, putting them ass-up, and shoving a bellow filled with tobacco smoke up their ass...for drowning...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 06, 2026 01:34 PM (l3cgK)

108 And no, it obviously didn't work.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 06, 2026 01:35 PM (l3cgK)

109 These assholes crave the power they have over people. Whatever outcome they want, evidence be damned. Power to get a fellow traveler, no matter how guilty, acquitted and political enemies indicted and convicted, no matter the lack of evidence.

It's always the power.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 06, 2026 01:36 PM (QUPkp)

110 >>>imagine someone dropping the drawers of a drowning victim, putting them ass-up, and shoving a bellow filled with tobacco smoke up their ass...for drowning...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

>Around here we call that Sunday night.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 06, 2026 01:37 PM (eP2ub)

111 There will be voices in her head I think

Posted by: Skip at September 06, 2026 01:37 PM (qEb4U)

112 Just sharing, not complaining. I have C4, 5 & 6 all fused and one disc partially moved in my top 2 lumbar vertebra. Had I not had the fusions their was the possibility of becoming a quadiplegic. Those are not the problems now.

Problem now is femoral nerve damage in my left leg and neuropathy in both. Last time I was in Corsicana I walked with a cane. I've graduated to a walker now. Such is life.

Posted by: javems at September 06, 2026 01:37 PM (zFsEm)

113 13 no I meant that now she is physically as helpless as her 8 month old baby that she strangled.

If she has an ounce of humanity left in her, she should repent and plead guilty and beg for death.

Posted by: vmom deport deport stab deport at September 06, 2026 01:39 PM (WA6YU)

114 Lizzie Borden kept changing her story as to what she was doing and was seen burning a dress in the oven which she said was too stained to be worn. Yet no one, save the police and prosecution, could believe that a “good woman” like Lizzie Borden could have killed her parents with a axe. She was found not guilty. But you know what children say, to this very day: “Lizzie Borden took an ax/And gave her mother forty whacks/When she saw what she had done/She gave her father forty-one.”

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 06, 2026 01:40 PM (zeRnp)

115 If she has an ounce of humanity left in her, she should repent and plead guilty and beg for death.
Posted by: vmom deport deport stab deport

The humanity in that one is long gone if it was ever there to begin with.

Posted by: Tuna at September 06, 2026 01:44 PM (lJ0H4)

116 Robert Wickens, former IndyCar driver. Paralyzed from the waist down after a horrific crash at Pocono.

Currently drives sports cars in the IMSA series using a specially designed steering wheel that combines accelerator, break, shifting, etc.

The work on his race setup has implications for others with similar injuries who wish to be self sufficient, drive themselves, etc.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 06, 2026 12:57 PM (2Cry5)

Had several friends over the years with limited use of their legs for one reason of another. They all had hand controls on their cars. Pull up for the gas pedal, push down for the brake. Back then, I was trying to figure out how a rig for manual shifting might work. I'd imagine the paddles that I see on race cars is the solution..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 06, 2026 01:46 PM (nbLIj)

117 You'd be surprised how motivated to get surgery you get when your body stops working.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I hope it all worked out for you. I've got an osteophyte in the lumbar spine that has laid me low for weeks at a time, but I'm not willing to have surgery or even epidural injections to address it.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 06, 2026 12:37 PM (XvL8K)

I've had 3 back surgeries in the last 5 years and each one has made me worse. I'm in very serious pain all the time but no more surgeries. Period. I will regret to my dying day having had the first.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 06, 2026 01:46 PM (Bjvjs)

118 Pretty sure both Heroin and Cocaine at one time were sold as OTC remedies for the Morphine habit.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 06, 2026 01:20 PM (VPdQq)

Also advertised to soothe teething pains in babies and children!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 06, 2026 01:47 PM (zeRnp)

119 And don’t forget the cocaine in Coca Cola!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 06, 2026 01:47 PM (zeRnp)

120 Please do not let the hatred and disgust for this woman tarnish even a moment of your day.

She doesn’t deserve the attention.

Let the Lord figure it out.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 06, 2026 01:48 PM (sbGbc)

121 AfD: 44.5%
CDU: 18.5%
Die Linke: 9.5%
SPD: 8%
FDP: 2%
Greens: 9%

Posted by: Dr. T at September 06, 2026 12:04 PM (lHPJf)

Germany's "We wanted democracy... but not like THAT!" amuses me. In a dark way, because I'm sympathetic to a populace that wants its country to stay its country and is being ignored by that country's elites.

Posted by: pookysgirl has a lot of German ancestry at September 06, 2026 01:49 PM (Wt5PA)

122 Life insurance on your children? Is that a common thing? I can see life insurance on dad or mom, but one's children? Is that common?

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at September 06, 2026 01:50 PM (XMwZJ)

123 The Propaganda again Nazis will get ramped up by the Communists

Posted by: Skip at September 06, 2026 01:53 PM (qEb4U)

124 Lindsay Clancy left out one very very important thing in her planning.

Practicing parachute landing falls.

I say, good.

Posted by: Gref at September 06, 2026 12:54 PM (5rh/l)

Funny you say that. I went to Airborne School more than 40 years ago and learned PLF's. They became muscle memory so to speak and decades later, when I'd fall, I'd do a perfect PLF and not get hurt. My eternal thanks to the Black Hats. Heh.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 06, 2026 01:53 PM (Bjvjs)

125 That is my belief. No reasonably healthy adult would expect to be seriously injured or killed from jumping from a second story window. Broken arm or leg, maybe... paralysis or death, never.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 06, 2026 12:32 PM (ExV1e)

I remember there was an illegal alien who jumped to evade deportation, blew out his flip-flops, and walked away. Well, he was also injured and was caught anyway, but certainly not paralyzed.

Posted by: SciVo at September 06, 2026 01:54 PM (ke3zm)

126 No matter what, keep moving and never give up!

Spinal surgeries are scary. 30% get better, 30% get worse and the remaining it makes no difference.

Epidural steroid injections can be very effective, but they can and do wear off and become less effective the more you get. Some folks get significant relief for years. Some do not.

But keep moving. Every day.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 06, 2026 01:54 PM (sbGbc)

127 The stores that the husband went to show him on the security tapes. So the crazies claim it was a body double.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 06, 2026 01:55 PM (bkuEU)

128 Life insurance on your children? Is that a common thing? I can see life insurance on dad or mom, but one's children? Is that common?

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at September 06, 2026 01:50 PM (XMwZJ)

I agree. Getting life insurance on kids is weird to me. And creepy. My idea of life insurance for my kids was God's Grace.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 06, 2026 01:56 PM (Bjvjs)

129 I know AfD is the so-called "far right" but what are the others? I wonder how they'll try to spin and/or cheat this one.
Posted by: Oddbob

AFAIK, they don't have to. The other parties link up together to prevent a majority. They have ostensible 'conservative' parties that will join hands with literal commies and squash the possibility of an actual conservative leadership.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 06, 2026 01:56 PM (diia5)

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