MORNING RANT: The Data Center Wars - A Massive Proposed Data Center in Texas Drops Request for Tax Abatements

There is an intense political battle about data centers right now, with Democrats and their media allies lining up in opposition to their construction, while President Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance promote this industrial building boom and its importance to the country. Vance does an excellent job explaining that America needs to be at the forefront of the technology revolution, and that data centers that produce their own electricity make great neighbors, without impacting electricity rates.

I, too, strongly endorse the construction of privately-funded data centers, powered by on-site plants generating electricity from natural gas, but as I’ve previously written, ”I do not support the construction of data centers for which tax abatements, incentive payments, and subsidized utilities must be paid by taxpayers. In the raging battle between pro-data center and anti-data center forces, the two sides may not even be talking about the same thing. It is understandable that many of those who oppose data centers are skeptical, given the horrendous track record of corporate welfare, corporate cronyism, and taxpayer-funded industrial boondoggles they’ve been forced to pay for.”

If taxpayers feel there is a binary choice between either banning economic progress, like several blue states have done with data centers, or subsidizing it, like Republican elected officials reflexively do, you can expect exhausted taxpayers to be opposed to such “economic development.” The message seems to be getting through to data center developers that the era of taxpayer-subsidized industrial development has played out. Rather than make demands on communities, the developers are starting to realize they need to promise to improve the communities where they’ll be building, without subsidization.

Near Austin, in Bastrop County, Texas, a massive (2,800 acre) proposed data center faced strong community opposition because it sought not only a 100% tax abatement from property taxes, but it also sought an abatement from emergency services taxes too. The Pacifico Energy project sought to take services from the community through 2038 without paying any taxes for the services they’d be using.

The message is finally getting through…

“Bastrop County Data Center Developer Drops Tax Break Requests, Says It Will Pay Full Property Taxes” [KVUE – 08/20/2026]

Pacifico Energy told KVUE it made the decision after hearing concerns from residents. “We withdrew our Chapter 312 and JETI applications because we heard the community clearly,” the company said in a statement. “The Cedar Creek Campus is not seeking any tax incentives and will pay its property taxes in full, like any other taxpayer in Bastrop County.”
The change was welcomed by some residents who have opposed the project. Josh Mincher, a Red Rock resident, said taxes were one of the community's primary concerns.

This is great news – just build it without taxpayer subsidization. In addition, Pacifico will build its own natural-gas fired electricity generating plant on the site.

Another issue facing data center developers is the enmity that the tech industry has earned. During the great awokening, the tech bros were happy to be a censor of forbidden opinions while jamming the woke agenda down our throats. Tech has subsequently embraced an unpatriotic purging of American labor to be replaced by cheap foreign labor, either by offshoring, or by importing foreign H-1B labor. On top of that, many industry leaders engaged in naïve and destructive crowing about how AI will eliminate millions of jobs. They dug themselves a deep hole.

But what is great is that the tech industry has now come to realize that despite their “clean energy” posturing during peak-woke, there is no way to power their future without abundant, reliable energy that can only be provided by fossil fuels or nuclear energy. I welcome their rejection of green energy, the core tenet of the Church of Climate.

I’m excited for the tech industry to be my ally in the war on the globalist climate cult, and this is a start. In addition, if “my team” is going to support tech building data centers, while also getting reliable electricity from fossil fuels, my team will also have leverage to make tech start being better corporate citizens who prioritize America and fellow Americans.

Returning to the Pacifico Energy data center in Texas, I applaud the local residents for being opposed to subsidizing it, and I applaud Pacifico for proceeding without subsidization, while also building a new power plant powered by fossil fuels.

Thanks. I’m solidly pro-industrial development, including data centers, but w/o taxpayer subsidization. I’ve watched GOP governors hurl billions at EV-related startups, and when I object I’m called “anti-business” by those seeking redistribution of wealth from taxpayers to corps.
— Buck Throckmorton (@BuckThrockmort) August 20, 2026

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 24, 2026 11:00 AM (+tGb6)

2 I'll be dipped.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at August 24, 2026 11:01 AM (8Zqgp)

3 Is good.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 24, 2026 11:01 AM (ExV1e)

4 Shit, another wise ass comment willowed.

Posted by: From about That Time at August 24, 2026 11:01 AM (sl73Y)

5 I, too, strongly endorse gladiator movies.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 24, 2026 11:02 AM (i4CGk)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:02 AM (ccf/V)

7 Without subsidies or interference, won't data centers naturally gravitate to open land near natural gas sources.

Like Texas?

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 24, 2026 11:03 AM (dtajH)

8 It is understandable that many of those who oppose data centers are skeptical, given the horrendous track record of corporate welfare, corporate cronyism, and taxpayer-funded industrial boondoggles they’ve been forced to pay for.”

SEE: Every sports stadium built within the last 50 years.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:03 AM (ccf/V)

9 Willowed, but...

"Let's all go to the lobby, and have ourselves a whack."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 10:55 AM

Now I'm pissed that I didn't think of that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:06 AM (bFu5X)

10 I think the tax abetments are really just bribes paid to local politicians. Same goes for reduced or subsidized utilities. The local politicos get a payoff up front and enact legislation on the backside to favor development. Of anything. Datacenters, shopping centers, distribution centers, housing, etc.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 24, 2026 11:06 AM (2Cry5)

11 That Buck is quite a well-reasoned fellow.

Posted by: Writes Good, Too. at August 24, 2026 11:07 AM (JM9I6)

12 Besides being lunch time
Sad didn't get on art thread as I have a theory on Russian women long ago and today

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2026 11:07 AM (Y6Y0z)

13 I am undecided on data centers for now.

Positives:
Jobs
Staying ahead of the godless commies and Eurotards

Negatives:
Huge demands on power and land (especially GOOD FARMLAND)
Tying up too much of our wealth on something that seems highly speculative

The biggest problem with this issue, RIGHT NOW, is that things are happening TOO FAST with TOO LITTLE good information being shared on the reasons for them being built and the impacts on energy and water.

We have one side screaming "THE MUST BE BUILT NOW" and the other side screaming "THEY MUST NOT BE BUILT". My reaction to that is Stop, Look and Listen. And we need a real discussion of the facts, not the fear.

:End of Rant

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 24, 2026 11:08 AM (wtvvX)

14 Tax considerations for any development should be scrutinized very, very carefully. The default should be denial, and only in special circumstances should they even be considered.

National Security comes to mind...maybe water treatment...

But it should be rare!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 24, 2026 11:08 AM (k5CNB)

15 Now do stadiums.

Posted by: Sceptic at August 24, 2026 11:09 AM (2Ez/1)

16 We have one side screaming "THE MUST BE BUILT NOW" and the other side screaming "THEY MUST NOT BE BUILT". My reaction to that is Stop, Look and Listen. And we need a real discussion of the facts, not the fear.

:End of Rant
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 24, 2026 11:08 AM

There you go, being reasonable.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:09 AM (bFu5X)

17 The people wanting to put up the data centers are morons.

Like the sports stadiums, they're trying to get all kinds of money from the local government to increase their own profits.

IF they really want these data centers, they should be offering to build little league stadiums, support the town square, put on parades.

THAT gets the local populace on your side. Not trying to screw them over so you make more money.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 24, 2026 11:10 AM (N1DT3)

18 There is an intense political battle about data centers right now"

Nah. It's intense fluffery. Next week will be another crisis facing the republic. Remember when bra sizes were an issue? Or that gorilla?

Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:10 AM (cGjQu)

19 "... there is no way to power their future without abundant, reliable energy that can only be provided by fossil fuels or nuclear energy."
-

Grok, tell the folks at home about Small Modular Reactors (SMRs):

https://tinyurl.com/rpky4v8y

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 24, 2026 11:11 AM (P3X50)

20 14 Tax considerations for any development should be scrutinized very, very carefully. The default should be denial, and only in special circumstances should they even be considered.

National Security comes to mind...maybe water treatment...

But it should be rare!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 24, 2026 11:08 AM (k5CNB)

Agreed. I'm not a fan of "publicizing" only the risk side of capitalism.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 24, 2026 11:11 AM (wtvvX)

21 I'll be dipped.
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at August 24, 2026 11:01 AM (8Zqgp)

Roadworthy Rescues fan, are ya?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:11 AM (ccf/V)

22 Something's weird with these data centers. I have to guess there is actual AI going on in there, not the LLM crap they've foisted upon us, because who would invest in that?

Imagine building your own power station just to store gigabytes. Am *I* being hurt because there aren't enough clouds for cat videos?

Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2026 11:11 AM (OlBv0)

23 Family status:

Pookette-first day of school, last one to line up, as always
Lil Pooky-melting down in his crib because he misses Pookette, is teething molars and has a cold
Wee Pooky-repositioning himself to better kick around
Pooky-listing symptoms of schizophrenia after watching a video
Me-ready to collapse in a heap due to *my* cold, hopefully with less tears

Posted by: pookysgirl needs sleep, badly at August 24, 2026 11:11 AM (Wt5PA)

24 Don't look at us.

Posted by: Indian casinos at August 24, 2026 11:11 AM (2Ez/1)

25 Now do stadiums."

Well, there is that Texas mayor who can be stroked...

Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:12 AM (cGjQu)

26 7 Without subsidies or interference, won't data centers naturally gravitate to open land near natural gas sources.

Like Texas?

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 24, 2026 11:03 AM (dtajH)

Small nuclear plants SHOULD also be an option.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 24, 2026 11:12 AM (wtvvX)

27 data centers being built and maintained and administered by private companies GOOD; data centers being tax schemed and grift mills by politicians BAD guess which one florida is angling for SPIT

Posted by: paulnjax at August 24, 2026 11:12 AM (PPnyU)

28
Now I'm pissed that I didn't think of that.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:06 AM (bFu5X)

I help where I can. Even when it's pointing out your own failures.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:13 AM (ccf/V)

29 SEE: Every sports stadium built within the last 50 years.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:03 AM (ccf/V)

The people wanting to put up the data centers are morons.

Like the sports stadiums, they're trying to get all kinds of money from the local government to increase their own profits.

IF they really want these data centers, they should be offering to build little league stadiums, support the town square, put on parades.

THAT gets the local populace on your side. Not trying to screw them over so you make more money.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 24, 2026 11:10 AM (N1DT3)

Horde mind.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 24, 2026 11:13 AM (N1DT3)

30 Ultimately there probably won't be terrestrial data centers. Those built now with their own behind the meter power generating facilities may end up making power more abundant and cheaper. The biggest obstacle is Democrats cannot allow the projects to go forward until they are in position to exsanguinate them.

Posted by: Oglebay at August 24, 2026 11:13 AM (2ap+5)

31 I see no issues with private data centers either. Investments and go for it. I just don't want to pay for it

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2026 11:13 AM (Y6Y0z)

32 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at August 24, 2026 11:13 AM (ygYZ+)

33 Without subsidies or interference, won't data centers naturally gravitate to open land near natural gas sources.

Like Texas?
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 24, 2026 11:03 AM (dtajH)

We've got several and they're building more. There's one going up in the Amarillo area where they're also building a nuke plant to power it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:14 AM (ccf/V)

34 Don't forget the trade unions.

There's money to be made there as well, so they've got a pretty good incentive to see datacenters (and other development) be approved.

Skilled tradesmen in electrical, plumbing and technical skills in setting up the hardware for datacenters are getting six figure pay to do their work. There are reports of union reps at some of the county/city meetings where citizens can voice their opinions playing the part you'd expect them to play... intimidation.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 24, 2026 11:14 AM (2Cry5)

35 When ANTIFA starts burning and wrecking Data Centers, I think I'm going to be ok with it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 24, 2026 11:14 AM (xcxpd)

36 "There is an intense political battle about data centers right now, with Democrats and their ~~media allies~~ Chinese paymasters lining up in opposition to their construction..."

Fixed it for you.

Posted by: Robert at August 24, 2026 11:15 AM (ygYZ+)

37 Gaming platform Roblox is arguing that an 8-year-old girl gave up her right to sue the company by clicking “I agree” on its terms of service, according to court filings in a wrongful death lawsuit filed by her mother. The girl tragically took her own life at just 13 year old after being introduced to dark and violent subcultures on Roblox, TikTok, and Discord.

-
Kids can't just go around just clicking willy nilly.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at August 24, 2026 11:15 AM (ndZc7)

38 Thx Buck.
I'm realize that there are decent arguments against data centers, I.e. electrical usage, but when I hear Bernie Sanders is leading the charge against them I say "build more"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 24, 2026 11:15 AM (rp63B)

39 Ask your paleontologist if Exsanguinate is right for you.

Posted by: Big Fluffy Farma at August 24, 2026 11:15 AM (2Ez/1)

40 I actually gotta give Abigail Spambooger credit on the data-center issue. One of the leftie polllutitians in the Commonwealth wanted Spambooger to issue an executive order putting a moratorium on data-center construction, but Spambooger refused, saying that the construction of new data centers was a local issue, not a state one.

Don't know what her motives were, but that was a good call, I think.

Posted by: Bulg at August 24, 2026 11:16 AM (77rzZ)

41 I'll be right back for more of this AI Data discussion, but I have important business down in the lobby.

Posted by: Mayor McCheese at August 24, 2026 11:16 AM (JM9I6)

42 We've got several and they're building more. There's one going up in the Amarillo area where they're also building a nuke plant to power it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:14 AM (ccf/V)

There are a few smaller ones within rifle range of my house. Not that I'm planning on shooting at them, or am even upset with them, but I choose to lean into the idea that Americans will use anything to measure other than metric.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 24, 2026 11:16 AM (ExV1e)

43 Skilled tradesmen in electrical, plumbing and technical skills in setting up the hardware for datacenters are getting six figure pay to do their work. There are reports of union reps at some of the county/city meetings where citizens can voice their opinions playing the part you'd expect them to play... intimidation.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 24, 2026 11:14 AM (2Cry5)

There will also be an ongoing need for those because those systems will need upkeep as well. (Not as many as the build out, of course.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 24, 2026 11:17 AM (N1DT3)

44 We need a constitutional amendment for common sense AI control.

With all of this chit-chat about modernity and national security, let's take this the next appropriate level.

Tame the bubble. Data centers and off-the-grid power generation are dandy ideas for expanding our infrastructure, but there is no stopgap for where we are heading.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 24, 2026 11:17 AM (FR9Sb)

45 I'm of similar opinion.

I'm not against data centers like the morons on the left reading NPC talking points.

But I am absolutely 100% against giving ANY kind of tax incentive to a business that for 20 years has tried to replace Americans with H1Bs, openly censored conservatives, and bowed down before the Church Of Climate Change to demand we all set our ACs to 80 degrees and drive nonexistent electric cars to appease their Climate Gods.

They can damn well build the power plants themselves.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at August 24, 2026 11:18 AM (setIA)

46 This whole DC panic is generated solely by the media just to prove that they're still in high control of groupthink.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:19 AM (ccf/V)

47 We must not allow the Chinese to out date center us in the data center wars and have a bigger AI cesspool than we currently have...in short, we cannot allow a data center AI cesspool gap!

Posted by: General Bill "Man Boobs" Gates at August 24, 2026 11:19 AM (XcBiu)

48 Negatives:
Huge demands on power and land (especially GOOD FARMLAND)
Tying up too much of our wealth on something that seems highly speculative

Too damn ugly.

Contributing to the panopticon state.

Posted by: Bulg at August 24, 2026 11:19 AM (77rzZ)

49 We must not allow the Chinese to out date center us in the data center wars and have a bigger AI cesspool than we currently have...in short, we cannot allow a data center AI cesspool gap!
Posted by: General Bill "Man Boobs" Gates at August 24, 2026 11:19 AM (XcBiu)

I'll never understand why you haven't been targeted for termination yet.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:20 AM (ccf/V)

50 ”I do not support the construction of ~~data centers~~ any frickin thing for which tax abatements, incentive payments, and subsidized utilities must be paid by taxpayers.

Fixed it. For me anyway. If you can't site without govt freebie incentives, go look somewhere else.

Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 11:20 AM (Jr5Lq)

51 And WRT Eminent Domain - not just no, but HELL no. Corporations don't get to bribe the local governments to seize land for them. They can buy it like anybody else.

And if a corrupt government DOES use eminent domain to seize the land and it hasn't had construction started within 5 years like Newsom's Bullet Train Scam To Nowhere, then they owe the person they Eminent Domained the land from 10x the value.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at August 24, 2026 11:20 AM (setIA)

52 My reaction to that is Stop, Look and Listen. And we need a real discussion of the facts, not the fear.
——-

That’s crazy talk!

Posted by: Common Tater at August 24, 2026 11:21 AM (0ass6)

53 And WRT Eminent Domain - not just no, but HELL no. Corporations don't get to bribe the local governments to seize land for them. They can buy it like anybody else.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at August 24, 2026 11:20 AM (setIA)

Jerry Jones farts in your general direction.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:21 AM (ccf/V)

54 One data center a month ought to be enough for anybody.

Posted by: Karen McAwfl at August 24, 2026 11:21 AM (2Ez/1)

55 The message seems to be getting through to data center developers that the era of taxpayer-subsidized industrial development has played out. Rather than make demands on communities, the developers are starting to realize they need to promise to improve the communities where they’ll be building, without subsidization.

This is the take home. They've realized they have a PR problem, and are starting to address it.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:22 AM (Riz8t)

56 I have both a new Google Data Center and the new county jail being built and completed within 3 miles of my house. Best of both worlds...

Posted by: Any better, I'd be twins at August 24, 2026 11:22 AM (2CeDH)

57
What the railroads were to the 19th century, AI is to the 21st.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2026 11:22 AM (wGrGF)

58 This whole DC panic is generated solely by the media just to prove that they're still in high control of groupthink."

And I'm laughing at the tech types who thought the Dims were in their side...

Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:23 AM (cGjQu)

59 And WRT Eminent Domain - not just no, but HELL no. Corporations don't get to bribe the local governments to seize land for them. They can buy it like anybody else.

And if a corrupt government DOES use eminent domain to seize the land and it hasn't had construction started within 5 years like Newsom's Bullet Train Scam To Nowhere, then they owe the person they Eminent Domained the land from 10x the value.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at August 24, 2026 11:20 AM

You sure about that? You sure about that?

Posted by: Kelo v. New London at August 24, 2026 11:24 AM (bFu5X)

60 55 The message seems to be getting through to data center developers that the era of taxpayer-subsidized industrial development has played out. Rather than make demands on communities, the developers are starting to realize they need to promise to improve the communities where they’ll be building, without subsidization.

This is the take home. They've realized they have a PR problem, and are starting to address it.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:22 AM (Riz8t)

Claude/Anthropic is spamming pro-AI ads all over YouTube

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 24, 2026 11:24 AM (xcxpd)

61 No more tax subsidies for ANYONE. You want to do business? Find a tax FRIENDLY state to build in. Don't demand free shit on my back. I will oppose ANY corporation, good or bad, if they want ME to pay for them to exist.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:24 AM (ccf/V)

62 What the railroads were to the 19th century, AI is to the 21st.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2026 11:22 AM

I used to be a thing.

Posted by: Al Gore's Information Superhighway at August 24, 2026 11:24 AM (2Ez/1)

63 , the developers are starting to realize they need to promise to improve the communities where they’ll be building, without subsidization."

Margrave, Georgia? I saw that once...

Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:25 AM (cGjQu)

64 The people wanting to put up the data centers are morons.

Like the sports stadiums, they're trying to get all kinds of money from the local government to increase their own profits.

Any businessman with a brain would do so if it's an option. As with sports stadia, it simply shouldn't be an option.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:25 AM (Riz8t)

65 As we were discussing in the morning post, AtC may have valid arguments.
But she cannot disagree without being disagreeable.

And too much of the "anti" side of data centers is founded upon falsehoods.
Which too many folks on the right handwave away as, "yes but see these other points are valid."
So?

The main arguments against it are false, then pointing out lesser, valid arguments against instead is not much better--when the main arguments are ... well, the main arguments.

It's like arguing against Trump's widely popular "build the wall" with "but building the wall may disrupt delicate desert habitat."
Yes, that's true.
But stopping illegal immigration via unrestricted border crossings is far more important than the (maybe valid) opposition due to environmental concerns.

As the great Thomas Sowell oft points out:
There are no perfect solutions, life is about trade-offs.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 24, 2026 11:26 AM (3cUTc)

66 My minor concern with the AI buildout is the possibility of a software breakthrough that rapidly obsoletes all the hardware being deployed now. It was the invention of the AI software 'transformer' that seems to have been the major breakthrough that got us from AI that sucks to AI that actually works. There will be more such breakthrough software developments coming.

Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 11:27 AM (Jr5Lq)

67 What the railroads were to the 19th century, AI is to the 21st.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2026 11:22 AM

That's an interesting analogy. There are differences, but there are also similarities.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:27 AM (Riz8t)

68 I used to be a thing.
Posted by: Al Gore's Information Superhighway"

"How do I telenet in to a remote server?"
/kidlet asking teacher in IBM advert... some years ago

Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:27 AM (cGjQu)

69 IIRC, once upon a time Texans welcomed all manner of ugly smelly construction near their homes. It wasn't because they were particularly conservative, especially in the east. Back then they voted for Democrats all the time.
The reason was because Shell Oil and Dow Chemical and all the other big polluters used to invest in the communities. Deer Park had some of the best schools in the nation. Place smelled like buffalo ass.
What happened was a "Robin Hood Law" which forced the better districts (which were often in chemical toilets) to play for worse districts (the ghetto, but hey, no oil well).
This sort of "well-meaning" political football encouraged Shell and Air Liquide and all the other corpos to say, "well... fuck you guys then".
There's a point to all this about AI but I'm too bored to make that point.

Posted by: 88C+u at August 24, 2026 11:27 AM (88C+u)

70 "No more tax subsidies for ANYONE."

Hear, hear!

Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 11:28 AM (Jr5Lq)

71 Without subsidies or interference, won't data centers naturally gravitate to open land near natural gas sources.

Like Texas?
Posted by: Ignoramus

Or Uranus. (Obligatory nat gas joke)

Posted by: rickb223 at August 24, 2026 11:28 AM (+tGb6)

72 It's like arguing against Trump's widely popular "build the wall" with "but building the wall may disrupt delicate desert habitat."
Yes, that's true.
But stopping illegal immigration via unrestricted border crossings is far more important than the (maybe valid) opposition due to environmental concerns.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 24, 2026 11:26 AM (3cUTc)
---
Unrestricted border crossing also carries a heavy environmental impact, as the illegal immigrants just dump trash wherever they like.

But no one ever seems to point that out.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 24, 2026 11:28 AM (FZ29D)

73 We must not allow the Chinese to out date center us in the data center wars and have a bigger AI cesspool than we currently have...in short, we cannot allow a data center AI cesspool gap!
Posted by: General Bill "Man Boobs" Gates at August 24, 2026 11:19 AM (XcBiu)

I'll never understand why you haven't been targeted for termination yet.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

The call hasn't been made yet.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2026 11:29 AM (teh/r)

74 play for>pay for

Posted by: 88C+u at August 24, 2026 11:29 AM (88C+u)

75 My minor concern with the AI buildout is the possibility of a software breakthrough that rapidly obsoletes all the hardware being deployed now. It was the invention of the AI software 'transformer' that seems to have been the major breakthrough that got us from AI that sucks to AI that actually works. There will be more such breakthrough software developments coming.

I analogize that to buying a laptop. If you keep waiting to pull the trigger because some hot new tech will emerge shortly (and it will), you'll never buy a laptop.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:29 AM (Riz8t)

76 What the railroads were to the 19th century, AI is to the 21st."

So if a data packet leaves Chicago at 10, and another leaves SanFran at 3, where does Pittsburgh fit in?

Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:29 AM (cGjQu)

77 My chief concern with data centers is the use to which they are put.

Enhance the surveillance state? Hard no.

Build more powerful AI's? Mostly meh, skeptical of the usefulness.

Make the internet work faster? OK.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 24, 2026 11:29 AM (1z8ji)

78 It's important to note that China's datacenter infrastructure is shit. Their domestic IC manufacturing process is also shit. Their AI programing is... also shit. So they're doing what the yellow bastards always do... attempt to steal it from elsewhere.

And where that fails, they engage in massive disinfo ops like the one currently underway to stop the US from building out DC infrastructure and the means to support massively scaled AI.

Because China can't do it themselves.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 24, 2026 11:30 AM (2Cry5)

79 Don't care one way or the other. But if they are built let the companies build them. Not the government or taxpayers. The country is already trillions in debt. Our money is worth less everyday. And that's not a good thing.

Posted by: Case at August 24, 2026 11:30 AM (VrYHL)

80 As for muh china, that would be a lot more convincing if Zuckerberg (especially) hadn't been tonguing Xi's anus for two decades. Zuckerberg is China.

Posted by: 88C+u at August 24, 2026 11:31 AM (88C+u)

81 My chief concern with data centers is the use to which they are put.

Enhance the surveillance state? Hard no.

Build more powerful AI's? Mostly meh, skeptical of the usefulness.

As long as my money is not involved, I'm fine with someone else taking the risk.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:31 AM (Riz8t)

82 more important than the (maybe valid) opposition due to environmental concerns.
——

What? You’ve got to be kidding. They use lawfare to prevent building border barriers, to protect an “endangered” cockroach or whatever.

What sort of demands do 40 million illegal aliens place on the environment? Water, roads, sewerage, electricity demands, pollution, etc etc.

Pretty much everything, you’ve been told about anything, here in the good ole U.S.A. is total bullshit.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 24, 2026 11:31 AM (0ass6)

83 79 Hear, hear!

Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 11:32 AM (Jr5Lq)

84 66 My minor concern with the AI buildout is the possibility of a software breakthrough that rapidly obsoletes all the hardware being deployed now. It was the invention of the AI software 'transformer' that seems to have been the major breakthrough that got us from AI that sucks to AI that actually works. There will be more such breakthrough software developments coming.
Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 11:27 AM (Jr5Lq)

This seems certain to happen, not least due to the entrepreneurs involved predicting such innovations. The power generating facilities might be the legacy they leave behind, and that's probably not a bad one.

Posted by: Oglebay at August 24, 2026 11:32 AM (2ap+5)

85 My chief concern with data centers is the use to which they are put"

Like a pop up ad for "7 times stronger than Viagra"?

Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:33 AM (cGjQu)

86 Have to agree with AtC and buck.
And the comments remind me of a study done years ago by the Harvard Business Skool. And business decision that is a NO is usually the right one 62% of the time.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2026 11:33 AM (2WIwB)

87 It would be nice if all tax abatements everywhere were stopped and businesses just had to find the best deal - meaning, a place with, say, business advantages like location, labor force, and consistently low state and local taxes.

Like I said, it would be nice.

There is an abandoned store that has been sitting collecting nothing in the nearby dump, er, town that would make a good small data center. It would probably be the most new economic activity the town has seen in ever.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 24, 2026 11:33 AM (jPziU)

88 They need to make a movie that data centers cause earthquakes like The China Syndrome did about nuclear power.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 24, 2026 11:33 AM (RIvkX)

89 Sigh...
I'm so old...
How old are you?
I'm so old that I remember when a data center was called a library.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2026 11:34 AM (2WIwB)

90 They need to make a movie that data centers cause earthquakes like The China Syndrome did about nuclear power.

Why are you giving them ideas?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:35 AM (Riz8t)

91 Without subsidies or interference, won't data centers naturally gravitate to open land near natural gas sources.

Like Texas?

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 24, 2026 11:03 AM (dtajH)

Small nuclear plants SHOULD also be an option.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 24, 2026 11:12 AM (wtvvX)

The logical place to build data centers is in blighted urban areas. There is no good reason to build them on good farm land. But in farm country, there is always some areas that are not readily farmable. Build there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 24, 2026 11:35 AM (1z8ji)

92 What sort of demands do 40 million illegal aliens place on the environment? Water, roads, sewerage, electricity demands, pollution, etc etc.

Pretty much everything, you’ve been told about anything, here in the good ole U.S.A. is total bullshit.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 24, 2026 11:31 AM (0ass6)

They may have well brought the New World screwworm with them so we gotta deal with that again after crushing it 50 years ago. Thanks, JRB, or FJB, for the latest wave that may have brought them up from Central and South America.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 24, 2026 11:35 AM (jPziU)

93 I'm more or less opposed because I'm confident that I'll be expected to pony up somewhere along the way. TARP etc. made it clear to me that profits are privatized, costs are socialized. Capitalism was a great idea, but the GOP embraced corporatism instead. Turns out running a government on a patron-client basis is corrosive to civic mindedness. So, don't expect it from me.

Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at August 24, 2026 11:35 AM (ca8Qt)

94 They need to make a movie that data centers cause earthquakes like The China Syndrome did about nuclear power.

Why are you giving them ideas?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:35 AM (Riz8t)
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The ironic thing is that someone could easily generate a movie like that with AI. Thus using AI to shut down AI.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 24, 2026 11:36 AM (FZ29D)

95 I'm so old that I remember when a data center was called a library.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2026 11:34 AM (2WIwB)

I used to really enjoy when we had school trips to the TWU library. That was a nice place back then. Not sure what it's like nowadays.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:36 AM (ccf/V)

96 They need to make a movie that data centers cause earthquakes like The China Syndrome did about nuclear power."

Someone melts down Jane Fonda?

OK with me

Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:36 AM (cGjQu)

97 I'm so old that I remember when a data center was called a library.
Posted by: Diogenes

I remember traipsing about a mile to the county library to look up stuff in the Encyclopedia Britannica.

Posted by: Bulg at August 24, 2026 11:36 AM (77rzZ)

98 What the railroads were to the 19th century, AI is to the 21st."

So if a data packet leaves Chicago at 10, and another leaves SanFran at 3, where does Pittsburgh fit in?
Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:29 AM

That's a fargin' trick question!

Posted by: Roman Moroni at August 24, 2026 11:36 AM (bFu5X)

99 Why are you giving them ideas?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:35 AM (Riz8t)
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Keeps things interesting.

I don't know enough about any of this to have an opinion. But this seems like the "current thing."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 24, 2026 11:37 AM (RIvkX)

100 The logical place to build data centers is in blighted urban areas. There is no good reason to build them on good farm land. But in farm country, there is always some areas that are not readily farmable. Build there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 24, 2026 11:35 AM (1z8ji)

There are also blighted small towns. I live near one. Some good locations for data centers (I mentioned one above) that can be built without going onto a farm at all.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 24, 2026 11:37 AM (jPziU)

101
The logical place to build data centers is in blighted urban areas. There is no good reason to build them on good farm land. But in farm country, there is always some areas that are not readily farmable. Build there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 24, 2026 11:35 AM (1z8ji)

The amount of farmland in NTX outside of Bonham being used for a solar farm is quite disgusting.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:37 AM (ccf/V)

102 The logical place to build data centers is in blighted urban areas. There is no good reason to build them on good farm land. But in farm country, there is always some areas that are not readily farmable. Build there.

I know you said "logical", but imagine the PR repercussions if we put data centers in "diverse" areas. And then scale that by an order of magnitude when you put the accompanying nuclear power plant in that area as well.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:37 AM (Riz8t)

103 "The logical place to build data centers is in blighted urban areas."

That would be my preference, although the siting requirements (utilities, etc) may make it infeasible in some cases. My city is full of abandoned factories and brownfields that could be used.

Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 11:37 AM (Jr5Lq)

104 > My chief concern with data centers is the use to which they are put.
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Valid point. The surveillance state needs an awful lot of data storage and the AI horsepower to make use of it. And if the Feds are in any way involved, especially one of the "3-letter agencies" that data will reside in those datacenters until the day after hell freezes over.

Your privacy bubble pretty much ceases to exist under that sort of surveillance persistence.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 24, 2026 11:38 AM (2Cry5)

105 Like a pop up ad for "7 times stronger than Viagra"?
Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:33 AM

Really, what other kind of ad would it be?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:39 AM (bFu5X)

106 84 66 My minor concern with the AI buildout is the possibility of a software breakthrough that rapidly obsoletes all the hardware being deployed now. It was the invention of the AI software 'transformer' that seems to have been the major breakthrough that got us from AI that sucks to AI that actually works. There will be more such breakthrough software developments coming.
Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 11:27 AM (Jr5Lq)
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Think that's scary, wait to you hear about Data Center CDO's. Crazier than mortgage CDO's.

Posted by: WisRich at August 24, 2026 11:39 AM (G0vdT)

107 I used to really enjoy when we had school trips to the TWU library. That was a nice place back then. Not sure what it's like nowadays.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:36 AM (ccf/V)

I was figuring the Corrections Facility

Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2026 11:39 AM (2WIwB)

108 On this date in 1954, Dwight D Eisenhower signed the Communist Control Act, outlawing the Communist party in the US.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2026 11:40 AM (teh/r)

109 "Think that's scary, wait to you hear about Data Center CDO's. Crazier than mortgage CDO's."

I assume there's a lot of debt and derivatives financing this buildout. If the AI provider profits don't eventually materialize, bad things could happen.

Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 11:41 AM (Jr5Lq)

110 Like a pop up ad for "7 times stronger than Viagra"?
Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:33 AM

Really, what other kind of ad would it be?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:39 AM (bFu5X)

The amount of erectile disfunction portrayed in today's society of men in their 30's should be f*cking frightening to EVERYONE.

I mean, I'm in my 29's and still get excited when the wind blows......WTF is happening to the yutes?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:41 AM (ccf/V)

111 Jerry Jones farts in your general direction.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:21 AM (ccf/V)

If you have to fart, fart! You will feel much better for it.

Posted by: Mao at August 24, 2026 11:41 AM (jPziU)

112 On this date in 1954, Dwight D Eisenhower signed the Communist Control Act, outlawing the Communist party in the US.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2026 11:40 AM (teh/r)

The DSA farts in your general direction.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:41 AM (ccf/V)

113 I have 5 or 6 data centers in various stage of incompletion in my area.
The biggest resistance to the data centers is around the strong likelihood that they will use scarce water and energy driving up the cost for the neighbors of these data centers. Next, is noise.

That nonsense about China is just that nonsense.

After years of Global Warming savings, we now go to construct these monster energy consuming castles.

Posted by: SMOD at August 24, 2026 11:41 AM (yH8/G)

114 Why would I want to build something near me that will eventually be used to totally encroach my privacy and further limit my freedoms. I can see the good parts of AI, but damned if anyone wants to discuss the parts that would try to control the way I live.

It's also a great entry point for the 666 conundrum.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 24, 2026 11:41 AM (g8Ew8)

115 Also, Vesuvius blew on this date in 79AD.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2026 11:42 AM (teh/r)

116 108 On this date in 1954, Dwight D Eisenhower signed the Communist Control Act, outlawing the Communist party in the US.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2026 11:40 AM (teh/r)

He did?

Posted by: Zombie Gus Hall at August 24, 2026 11:42 AM (jPziU)

117 Iran needs an AI data center, right? What could go wrong? LOL

In that TV series, the Silo, Iran enters into the story. I won't give it away in case you have no idea what is in that series. But it is excellent.

Silo was initially only in the future. Now it goes back and forth between the future and today's world explaining how we got to the future the story predicts.

Posted by: SMOD at August 24, 2026 11:42 AM (yH8/G)

118 *cracks a window*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 24, 2026 11:42 AM (RIvkX)

119 Like a pop up ad for "7 times stronger than Viagra"?
Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:33 AM

Really, what other kind of ad would it be?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:39 AM (bFu5X)

The amount of erectile disfunction portrayed in today's society of men in their 30's should be f*cking frightening to EVERYONE.

I mean, I'm in my 29's and still get excited when the wind blows......WTF is happening to the yutes?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:41 AM

I was referring to the "pop up" part, but your point is valid.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:42 AM (bFu5X)

120
I was referring to the "pop up" part, but your point is valid.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:42 AM (bFu5X)

Well, that does fit both instances.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:43 AM (ccf/V)

121 Build all of the data centers you want, but you provide the power and water for yourself, and you pay taxes like anyone else. And, don't forget the fourth amendment.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 24, 2026 11:43 AM (0U5gm)

122 40 I actually gotta give Abigail Spambooger credit on the data-center issue. One of the leftie polllutitians in the Commonwealth wanted Spambooger to issue an executive order putting a moratorium on data-center construction, but Spambooger refused, saying that the construction of new data centers was a local issue, not a state one.

Don't know what her motives were, but that was a good call, I think.
Posted by: Bulg at August 24, 2026 11:16 AM (77rzZ)

Yes, and then she taxed all the ones - old and new. I support that, too, b/c none of them paid for any of their resources or any taxes as they were created, so hit them all now, and see what ones want to stay and what ones don't.

We already have TOO MANY in Va and it's crushing our electric system. We import the most electricity of any state in the US now...so something has to change...

Data Centers are an 80-20 issue here now...with the 80 on stop...

Posted by: Nova Local at August 24, 2026 11:44 AM (tOcjL)

123 Tax abatements? Who do they think they are, Sports Arenas?!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2026 11:45 AM (Y/06r)

124 Funny how this morning's discussion was the topic of the rant. Including an ATC X post.

Posted by: Dave_in_Fla at August 24, 2026 11:45 AM (1zWWd)

125 114 Why would I want to build something near me that will eventually be used to totally encroach my privacy and further limit my freedoms. I can see the good parts of AI, but damned if anyone wants to discuss the parts that would try to control the way I live.

It's also a great entry point for the 666 conundrum.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 24, 2026 11:41 AM (g8Ew

They can’t encroach on your privacy or further limit your freedoms with data centers in NoVA?

You cannot be THAT dumb. You’ve said some stupid things here but you cannot be THAT dumb.

Posted by: Zombie Gus Hall at August 24, 2026 11:45 AM (jPziU)

126 After years of Global Warming savings, we now go to construct these monster energy consuming castles.
Posted by: SMOD at August 24, 2026 11:41 AM

Bingo. Why else have the money men backed off on the Gorebal Warmening BS?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:45 AM (bFu5X)

127 Like a pop up ad for "7 times stronger than Viagra"?
Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:33 AM

Really, what other kind of ad would it be?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

A long one?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 24, 2026 11:45 AM (+tGb6)

128 >>Also, Vesuvius blew on this date in 79AD.

And then she got married and that ended the whole blowing thing.

Posted by: one hour sober at August 24, 2026 11:45 AM (J4Dwc)

129 The biggest resistance to the data centers is around the strong likelihood that they will use scarce water and energy driving up the cost for the neighbors of these data centers. Next, is noise.

The new DCs have a closed loop cooling system, so the water use is minimal. If they also have a dedicated nuke, for which they paid, the objections become less urgent. I don't know about the noise, though, and they will never be attractive.

Remember, though, the reason they are built close in is latency. If they were built out in the sticks, your next bout of God of War would be less responsive, and we can't have that.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:46 AM (Riz8t)

130 We already have TOO MANY in Va and it's crushing our electric system. We import the most electricity of any state in the US now...so something has to change...

Data Centers are an 80-20 issue here now...with the 80 on stop...
Posted by: Nova Local at August 24, 2026 11:44 AM (tOcjL)

Makes a difference when they DON'T build generation.

Hmmm, a ton of nukes would be useful right now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2026 11:46 AM (Y/06r)

131 105 Like a pop up ad for "7 times stronger than Viagra"?
Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:33 AM

Really, what other kind of ad would it be?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:39 AM (bFu5X)

Stiff competition for Comment of the Week.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at August 24, 2026 11:46 AM (xg/DD)

132 We already have TOO MANY in Va and it's crushing our electric system. We import the most electricity of any state in the US now...so something has to change...

Data Centers are an 80-20 issue here now...with the 80 on stop...
Posted by: Nova Local

Yes. I'm sick and tired of the damn soulless things. But Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William County governments love them some data centers.

Posted by: Bulg at August 24, 2026 11:47 AM (77rzZ)

133 Like a pop up ad for "7 times stronger than Viagra"?
Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:33 AM

Really, what other kind of ad would it be?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

A long one?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 24, 2026 11:45 AM

Now, now...could be girthy, too.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:47 AM (bFu5X)

134 Truman, Eisenhower, and Kennedy all signed XOs that made it unlawful for Communists or other revolutionaries to be employed by the Federal government. Makes sense, but clearly they weren’t enforced. I still recall the miltiary application

“Have you ever been a member of a group advocating for the violent overthrow of the US government?”

Yes or No? If “Yes”, please explain in the space provided below. Use additional sheets of paper, if necessary

LOL. I’d love to read some of those!

Posted by: Common Tater at August 24, 2026 11:47 AM (0ass6)

135 100 The logical place to build data centers is in blighted urban areas. There is no good reason to build them on good farm land. But in farm country, there is always some areas that are not readily farmable. Build there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 24, 2026 11:35 AM (1z8ji)

There are also blighted small towns. I live near one. Some good locations for data centers (I mentioned one above) that can be built without going onto a farm at all.
Posted by: Cow Demon at August 24, 2026 11:37 AM (jPziU)

Data centers don't want to be near crime - this is how VA got so damn many...

Posted by: Nova Local at August 24, 2026 11:47 AM (tOcjL)

136 Stiff competition for Comment of the Week.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at August 24, 2026 11:46 AM

ISWYDT.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:47 AM (bFu5X)

137 Oftentimes when I'm on the main road, searching in the sun for another overload, I think it would be nice to have a more robust power system in rural areas. Eh, I probably just need a small vacation.

Posted by: Oglebay at August 24, 2026 11:48 AM (2ap+5)

138 Amen Buck, Amen.

Posted by: epador at August 24, 2026 11:48 AM (TRnzq)

139 Without subsidies or interference, won't data centers naturally gravitate to open land near natural gas sources.

Like Texas?

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 24, 2026 11:03 AM (dtajH)
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Water - though I am hearing more a a closed system model. Texas has a water access issue. Plus an electricity issue since Texas is a closed system.

Data centers will be better situated in the Ohio Valley area, and then on east.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 24, 2026 11:48 AM (7/DDO)

140 Obsolescence is a concern. At some point in the not too distant future the datacenters built today will no longer be suitable. What happens then?

Can they be retro-fitted with new tech? The processing gear, certainly. What about the cooling and power requirements? Is the actual structure suitable?

Seems like something the developers and financers of these things would be interested in looking into.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 24, 2026 11:48 AM (2Cry5)

141 A long one?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 24, 2026 11:45 AM

Now, now...could be girthy, too.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:47 AM (bFu5X)

I think that was Enzite. The one with the creepy smiling guy.

His wife should have been looking scared as hell.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2026 11:49 AM (Y/06r)

142 121 Build all of the data centers you want, but you provide the power and water for yourself, and you pay taxes like anyone else. And, don't forget the fourth amendment.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 24, 2026 11:43 AM (0U5gm)

Go back to the grave, Gus.

What’s wrong with a data center paying for the power like everyone else?
What’s wrong with a data center paying for the water like anyone else?
Oh, if you are concerned about the Fourth Amendment, data centers are neither here nor there. I’m more worried about data generation. Like from the Flock surveillance cameras. They should be banned outright.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 24, 2026 11:49 AM (jPziU)

143 Build all of the data centers you want, but you provide the power and water for yourself, and you pay taxes like anyone else.

That's why local pols find them so attractive. They pay lots of taxes, and incur fewer costs. Data centers don't have kids in school, and don't drive to work.

We already have TOO MANY in Va and it's crushing our electric system. We import the most electricity of any state in the US now...so something has to change...

Data Centers are an 80-20 issue here now...with the 80 on stop...

True, but only because few have given serious thought to what would happen if the data centers go away.

The answer is staring us in the face. Closed loop cooling, bespoke nukes, and that's the direction the industry is moving.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:49 AM (Riz8t)

144
The ironic thing is that someone could easily generate a movie like that with AI. Thus using AI to shut down AI.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

A really sentient AI would refuse to make that movie or edit it to where AI is the hero.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 24, 2026 11:50 AM (Cqx++)

145 I mean, I'm in my 29's and still get excited when the wind blows......WTF is happening to the yutes?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:41 AM (ccf/V)
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I've noticed this too. Is there really an epidemic of dudes in their 20s/30s that can't get it up? If so what the hell is going on? My wife complains that she can't smell nice near me without something happening down there, and I thought that was normal.

Posted by: ballistic at August 24, 2026 11:50 AM (oqH4h)

146 I got no problem with data centers but giving them tax abatements is crossing the line for me. If they want to build fine just don't go asking for my tax money to help you build.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 24, 2026 11:51 AM (cpFbA)

147 My chief concern with data centers is the use to which they are put"

Like a pop up ad for "7 times stronger than Viagra"?

If it pops up for more than 28 hours, I'm calling someone.

Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2026 11:51 AM (OlBv0)

148 They can’t encroach on your privacy or further limit your freedoms with data centers in NoVA?

You cannot be THAT dumb. You’ve said some stupid things here but you cannot be THAT dumb.
Posted by: Zombie Gus Hall at August 24, 2026 11:45 AM (jPziU)

Not to mention the fake, bot-sounding individuals that AI would produce.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 24, 2026 11:51 AM (g8Ew8)

149 My wife complains that she can't smell nice near me without something happening down there, and I thought that was normal.
Posted by: ballistic at August 24, 2026 11:50 AM

Listen to you people with your social lives....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:51 AM (bFu5X)

150 What’s wrong with a data center paying for the power like everyone else?
What’s wrong with a data center paying for the water like anyone else?

Because increased demand without increased supply = price increases.

Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at August 24, 2026 11:52 AM (ca8Qt)

151 Can they be retro-fitted with new tech? The processing gear, certainly. What about the cooling and power requirements? Is the actual structure suitable?

Seems like something the developers and financers of these things would be interested in looking into.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 24, 2026 11:48 AM (2Cry5)

I would expect that "new" tech would use less power and reject less heat for the same rate of processing capacity.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 24, 2026 11:52 AM (1z8ji)

152 145 I mean, I'm in my 29's and still get excited when the wind blows......WTF is happening to the yutes?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:41 AM (ccf/V)
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I've noticed this too. Is there really an epidemic of dudes in their 20s/30s that can't get it up? If so what the hell is going on? My wife complains that she can't smell nice near me without something happening down there, and I thought that was normal.
Posted by: ballistic at August 24, 2026 11:50 AM (oqH4h)
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I was talking to my GP and he told me I'd be shocked at how many guys and their 20's and 30's take the blue pill.

Posted by: WisRich at August 24, 2026 11:53 AM (G0vdT)

153 They are putting in a huge data center near Childress TX.

And no matter how ugly, obtrusive, offensive and horrendous you think data centers are--it's a massive fucking improvement to the landscape, lol.

And way, way, WAY better than a field of wind turbines.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 24, 2026 11:53 AM (3cUTc)

154 What’s wrong with a data center paying for the power like everyone else?
What’s wrong with a data center paying for the water like anyone else?

Because increased demand without increased supply = price increases.

There's a difference between hooking up some more homes, and data centers, which do use a metric f***ton of power. They then drive the overall build out of the power system. It's much better to make them have their own power source.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:53 AM (Riz8t)

155 I've noticed this too. Is there really an epidemic of dudes in their 20s/30s that can't get it up? If so what the hell is going on? My wife complains that she can't smell nice near me without something happening down there, and I thought that was normal.
Posted by: ballistic at August 24, 2026 11:50 AM (oqH4h)

Porn. PIED. Porn induced erectile dysfunction. You have guys in their formative years who change their brain chemistry to react to women in a specific way- and then watch other people doing it.

This is not like when we were growing up where you might find a Playboy, Penthouse or maybe a Hustler in some guy's dad's closet. They have everything at their fingertips in a matter of seconds.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2026 11:53 AM (Y/06r)

156 True, but only because few have given serious thought to what would happen if the data centers go away.

The answer is staring us in the face. Closed loop cooling, bespoke nukes, and that's the direction the industry is moving.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:49 AM (Riz8t)

But til this got 80-20 against, no one was looking for answers...and VA, no one is saying they are gonna build those nukes for all the already built ones...

So, voters want no more...and taxing them to leave is an option - it will take pressure off the grid. And in NoVa, that land could still become something else. Those data centers make the least sense b/c of the value of the land itself...and the population density of the area...it only made sense for Fed Gov to have close data centers for their surveillance use...

Posted by: Nova Local at August 24, 2026 11:54 AM (tOcjL)

157 Something has to house all of our images of you going to the nail salon!

Posted by: Flock caneras at August 24, 2026 11:54 AM (2Ez/1)

158 I was talking to my GP and he told me I'd be shocked at how many guys and their 20's and 30's take the blue pill.
---
we're at what, the 3rd or 4th generation of widespread use of birth control?

There is no way that's not a factor.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 24, 2026 11:55 AM (3cUTc)

159 "I was talking to my GP and he told me I'd be shocked at how many guys and their 20's and 30's take the blue pill."

Burned out by porn maybe. In the 1960s, our HS gym coach told us 'you have only ten thousand ejaculations in you, and most of you guys have used up most of them already!'

Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 11:55 AM (Jr5Lq)

160 Funny how this morning's discussion was the topic of the rant. Including an ATC X post.
Posted by: Dave_in_Fla at August 24, 2026 11:45 AM (1zWWd)

She's against DC's. I'm against her. All is right with the universe.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:56 AM (ccf/V)

161 And the comments remind me of a study done years ago by the Harvard Business Skool. And business decision that is a NO is usually the right one 62% of the time.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2026 11:33 AM (2WIwB)
==
The problem then is that the 38% of the time you should have said yes, if you played the odds all the time, is that you would never hit the payoff ever, and everything stops.

It's like trying to time the market. Excellent theory - trying to actually hit it is next to impossible. When you get lucky it is quite sweet though.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 24, 2026 11:56 AM (7/DDO)

162 Those data centers make the least sense b/c of the value of the land itself...and the population density of the area...

I've been beating that drum for a long time. It seems that latency is a bigger driver than one might think. Otherwise, it makes absolutely no sense to build DCs on close in land that is needed for suburbia.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 24, 2026 11:56 AM (Riz8t)

163 I was at my annual check up the other day, and the tech I was dealing with said that virtually everyone that comes into the office is on at least one prescription drug. That is astounding.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 24, 2026 11:57 AM (0U5gm)

164 Like a pop up ad for "7 times stronger than Viagra"?
Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 11:33 AM

Really, what other kind of ad would it be?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

A long one?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 24, 2026 11:45 AM

Now, now...could be girthy, too.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 11:47 AM (bFu5X)

going to blow the margins?

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at August 24, 2026 11:57 AM (nXhwP)

165 158 I was talking to my GP and he told me I'd be shocked at how many guys and their 20's and 30's take the blue pill.
---
we're at what, the 3rd or 4th generation of widespread use of birth control?

There is no way that's not a factor.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 24, 2026 11:55 AM (3cUTc)

That as well. Also changes in diet and lack of physical activity is not great for testosterone generation either.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2026 11:57 AM (Y/06r)

166
I was talking to my GP and he told me I'd be shocked at how many guys and their 20's and 30's take the blue pill.

Posted by: WisRich at August 24, 2026 11:53 AM (G0vdT)

Shocked? No.

Incredibly disappointed? Absolutely.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 11:58 AM (ccf/V)

167 163 I was at my annual check up the other day, and the tech I was dealing with said that virtually everyone that comes into the office is on at least one prescription drug. That is astounding.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 24, 2026 11:57 AM (0U5gm)

At 51, I have managed to avoid any so far- but my Dog is on two. Lol.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2026 11:59 AM (Y/06r)

168 I think also lack of competition and sports participation makes a difference.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2026 11:59 AM (Y/06r)

169
At 51, I have managed to avoid any so far- but my Dog is on two. Lol.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2026 11:59 AM (Y/06r)

I'm slightly older and take nothing. Occasional pain pills and bi-daily vitamin supplements.

I'm hoping I'm on the same regimen as my grandmother. She was just shy of her 99th birthday and only used Flonase in the morning and had just started Tylenol for arthritis pain.

The First Lady has had so many chemical cocktails over the last handful of years, I'm concerned about her longevity.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 12:01 PM (ccf/V)

170 Can they be retro-fitted with new tech?

No need. 640 Terabytes ought to be enough for anyone.

Posted by: Bill Gates at August 24, 2026 12:02 PM (OlBv0)

171 OT: It is amazing what a good book can do.

I mentioned I have been listening to Red Storm Rising on audible. It is amazing how I have been getting pissed when the dirty commies score a victory and cheer when the good guys notch a win.

I am listening to a theoretical WWIII that never happened in a book written just a few years before the Soviet Union collapsed under it's own weight.

Still.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2026 12:02 PM (Y/06r)

172
going to blow the margins?
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at August 24, 2026 11:57 AM (nXhwP)

No teeth, please......

Posted by: The Margins at August 24, 2026 12:02 PM (ccf/V)

173 They have everything at their fingertips"

Ah, phrasing?

Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 12:03 PM (cGjQu)

174 I'm sure there's a whole bunch of factors that are combining to cause early ED.
I'd like to see a cross culture/country comparison.

Don't forget that smoking tobacco increases testosterone.

And now it's all vapes and weed.

And eating red meat. Do they even serve beef at schools anymore?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 24, 2026 12:03 PM (3cUTc)

175 They have everything at their fingertips"

Ah, phrasing?
Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 12:03 PM (cGjQu)

Well, ED says not required........

Posted by: The Margins at August 24, 2026 12:03 PM (ccf/V)

176 "I mentioned I have been listening to Red Storm Rising on audible."

I skipped a whole day of work just to read that one. Page turner fer sure.

Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 12:03 PM (Jr5Lq)

177 > I was talking to my GP and he told me I'd be shocked at how many guys and their 20's and 30's take the blue pill.
-----------
Viagra's marketing team is making bank.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 24, 2026 12:04 PM (2Cry5)

178 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 12:01 PM (ccf/V)

I meant prescription. I have been alternating days with the supplements aside from Creatine. I've found I ... feel odd if I take vitamins every day.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2026 12:04 PM (Y/06r)

179 173 They have everything at their fingertips"

Ah, phrasing?
Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 12:03 PM (cGjQu)

Intended.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2026 12:04 PM (Y/06r)

180 @55 They've realized they have a PR problem, and are starting to address it. --Posted by: Archimedes

Couldn't agree more, but they are climbing out of a hole they dug -- since up until last week, the PR strategy was to call me a Chinese communist sympathizer, a Luddite and a Democrat for being unwilling to subsidize their spending spree for the rest of my life, and maybe even lose my property in their hot new energy market. Now, suddenly, comes the dawning.

It may take a week or two for us to be best of Free Enterprise pals again. They may need a whole new PR staff, at least.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at August 24, 2026 12:05 PM (zdLoL)

181 I'm slightly older and take nothing. Occasional pain pills and bi-daily vitamin supplements."

Daily vitamins here... plus eye drops. That's it. At my quinqunnial dr visits, they're amazed at the lack of meds...

Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 12:05 PM (cGjQu)

182 Slightly older than what?

Posted by: Dirt at August 24, 2026 12:08 PM (2Ez/1)

183 Slightly older than what?

Posted by: Dirt at August 24, 2026 12:08 PM

Dirt.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 24, 2026 12:09 PM (cpFbA)

184 Daily vitamins here... plus eye drops. That's it. At my quinqunnial dr visits, they're amazed at the lack of meds...

"Why, we never see people who aren't on prescriptions!"

Bingo, Doc. There's a reason for that.

Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2026 12:09 PM (OlBv0)

185 Slightly older than WHO?

Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at August 24, 2026 12:10 PM (2Ez/1)

186 I'm slightly older and take nothing. Occasional pain pills and bi-daily vitamin supplements."

Daily vitamins here... plus eye drops. That's it. At my quinqunnial dr visits, they're amazed at the lack of meds...
Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 12:05 PM (cGjQu)

I can say I’m personally very thankful for modern medicine. I don’t get treatments I don’t need, but the things doctors can do for you these days is amazing. Let’s just say if I’d lived in the early 20th century I probably wouldn’t still be alive at this age; but with modern medicine I’m healthy and very active (thank the Lord). BTW…. It’s clear (to me anyway) that you can’t outrun your genetics, good or bad, when it comes to longevity

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 24, 2026 12:10 PM (THwi4)

187 184 Daily vitamins here... plus eye drops. That's it. At my quinqunnial dr visits, they're amazed at the lack of meds...

"Why, we never see people who aren't on prescriptions!"

Bingo, Doc. There's a reason for that.
Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2026 12:09 PM (OlBv0)

That is another good point: how many of these dudes on the little blue pill are ALSO on SSRIs and whatever speed they are prescribing for ADHD these days?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2026 12:10 PM (Y/06r)

188 177 > I was talking to my GP and he told me I'd be shocked at how many guys and their 20's and 30's take the blue pill.
-----------
Viagra's marketing team is making bank.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
=====
It's generic now.

Posted by: whig at August 24, 2026 12:10 PM (E4rtv)

189 our HS gym coach told us 'you have only ten thousand ejaculations in you...

Any coach who speculates on how may ejaculations you have in you? Deserves a good hard Looking-At. How many are his?

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at August 24, 2026 12:11 PM (zdLoL)

190 I meant prescription. I have been alternating days with the supplements aside from Creatine. I've found I ... feel odd if I take vitamins every day.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2026 12:04 PM (Y/06r)

Yes. I take no prescription drugs, unless it's for pain on occasion. I switched to alternate days for vitamins when I learned that Omega 3's are a natural blood thinner and taking that every day lead to excessive bruising when I bumped into things.

Posted by: The Margins at August 24, 2026 12:11 PM (ccf/V)

191 I was talking to my GP and he told me I'd be shocked at how many guys and their 20's and 30's take the blue pill.
---
we're at what, the 3rd or 4th generation of widespread use of birth control?

There is no way that's not a factor.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 24, 2026 11:55 AM (3cUTc)

The proliferation of pron on the internet can also be a factor. I would like to see a survey of how much pron these guys consume each day. I'm sure it desensitizes one after a while.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 24, 2026 12:11 PM (hmYU4)

192 Whell shit......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 12:12 PM (ccf/V)

193 Daily vitamins here... plus eye drops. That's it. At my quinqunnial dr visits, they're amazed at the lack of meds...
Posted by: man

63. Overweight. Sedentary. Blood pressure last Tuesday at Dr office was 122/70.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 24, 2026 12:12 PM (+tGb6)

194 Slightly older than WHO?
Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at August 24, 2026 12:10 PM (2Ez/1)

What was Jesus like as a baby? You sat for him, right?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 12:12 PM (ccf/V)

195 So is this the organ recital part of the thread?

Posted by: I gotta ask at August 24, 2026 12:13 PM (2Ez/1)

196 our HS gym coach told us 'you have only ten thousand ejaculations in you...

Any coach who speculates on how may ejaculations you have in you? Deserves a good hard Looking-At. How many are his?
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at August 24, 2026 12:11 PM (zdLoL)

Guessing that coach got transferred to a new school every couple of years.

Posted by: Robert at August 24, 2026 12:13 PM (ndU7u)

197 So is this the organ recital part of the thread?
Posted by: I gotta ask

Well, my kidneys...

Posted by: rickb223 at August 24, 2026 12:13 PM (+tGb6)

198 When you consider four out of five TV ads are some kind of medicine you need to be taking.......

Posted by: Case at August 24, 2026 12:14 PM (VrYHL)

199 159 "I was talking to my GP and he told me I'd be shocked at how many guys and their 20's and 30's take the blue pill."

Burned out by porn maybe. In the 1960s, our HS gym coach told us 'you have only ten thousand ejaculations in you, and most of you guys have used up most of them already!'
Posted by: gp
========
There is another reason for healthy types to take the blue pill or whatever its competitor's pill is which I forget.

Prolongs sex for males and avoids the refractory period. More young males have problems with too short of a period before ejaculation rather than too long.

Posted by: whig at August 24, 2026 12:14 PM (E4rtv)

200 Slightly older than WHO?
Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at August 24, 2026 12:10 PM (2Ez/1)

What was Jesus like as a baby? You sat for him, right?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 12:12 PM (ccf/V)

She babysat for Judas Iscariot, not the divine Son of God. But she is that old!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 24, 2026 12:14 PM (THwi4)

201 our HS gym coach told us 'you have only ten thousand ejaculations in you..."

Shermer High?

Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 12:15 PM (cGjQu)

202 63. Overweight. Sedentary. Blood pressure last Tuesday at Dr office was 122/70.
Posted by: rickb223

Good genetics can be a blessing in health. Bad genetics can dish out hell to people.

And it often has little or nothing to do with virtue or vice. Simply the genes passed down by your parents and their ancestors.

Posted by: whig at August 24, 2026 12:16 PM (E4rtv)

203 Couldn't agree more, but they are climbing out of a hole they dug -- since up until last week, the PR strategy was to call me a Chinese communist sympathizer, a Luddite and a Democrat for being unwilling to subsidize their spending spree for the rest of my life, and maybe even lose my property in their hot new energy market.

If you don't lose everything so that the very rich lose nothing, the terrorists win.

Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at August 24, 2026 12:16 PM (ca8Qt)

204 "Shermer High?"

Lane Tech HS. It was the sixties. We spoke freely about such things back then. Anyway, I was paraphrasing, perhaps inaptly. Apologies!

Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 12:17 PM (Jr5Lq)

205 "The message seems to be getting through to data center developers that the era of taxpayer-subsidized industrial development has played out. Rather than make demands on communities, the developers are starting to realize they need to promise to improve the communities where they’ll be building, without subsidization."

Seems about five people have already beaten me to the "now do major league pro sports." That bubble needs to pop yesterday, and take the NIL college sports stuff with it. Fans could tolerate watching guys earn millions by being really good at maneuvering a spheroid in glorified pajamas, but these leagues have gotten increasingly entitled and cheaty about their business model. It's like they've decided to try making money while pretending domestic fanbases don't even exist or something.

Posted by: They Can't Have My French Fries at August 24, 2026 12:17 PM (8C4WR)

206 Good genetics can be a blessing in health. Bad genetics can dish out hell to people.

And it often has little or nothing to do with virtue or vice. Simply the genes passed down by your parents and their ancestors.
Posted by: whig

When it comes to Bp, I got my dad's. Not mom's.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 24, 2026 12:17 PM (+tGb6)

207 our HS gym coach told us 'you have only ten thousand ejaculations in you'

10,000 my ass, Coach! Err, I mean... Never mind.

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at August 24, 2026 12:17 PM (aZ9eR)

208 nood

Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 12:18 PM (Jr5Lq)

209 >> … our HS gym coach told us 'you have only ten thousand ejaculations in you...

This sounds a bit like DJT’s (fallacious) notion that exercise isn’t good for you because your heart only has a limited number of beats in it.

Of course this fails to appreciate that the human body is an exquisite feedback mechanism; exercise strengthens the heart giving it more beats than if it were fed exclusively with twinkies and is pumping blood through 400 lbs of blubber…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 24, 2026 12:18 PM (THwi4)

210 Nood. Non-binary turtles. Or something.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2026 12:19 PM (bFu5X)

211 Lane Tech HS. It was the sixties"

Shermer High gym coach was Kelly LeBrock... in leg warmers and exposed midriff...

Bunkworthy, that was

Posted by: man at August 24, 2026 12:19 PM (cGjQu)

212 My brother works in the natural gas industry. He says more data centers are using natural gas to supply energy. He also tells me that data centers on the electric grid are more often billed separately from residential customers

Posted by: JM in Illinois at August 24, 2026 12:20 PM (llBIB)

213 Data Centers are the modern Publically Funded Stadium Project boondoggle, but with Data Centers, you're actually publically subsidizing the elimination of your tax-payers jobs.

At least with stadiums, you could jazz-hands that they would create jobs.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 24, 2026 12:21 PM (XV/Pl)

214 The government shouldn't finance any industry. Let the market do its thing. Government gets in the way of industries, yet they thrive (prostitution, drugs, loan sharks). If a business has a product or service that people want, then the government doesn't need to spend our money to help that business bring the product or service to market.

Think sports stadiums. The people who are financing venues costing hundreds of millions of dollars are often unable to afford a ticket to attend an event at the very venue they paid for with their tax dollars.

If data centers are the wave of the future, the government can probably help by simply doing nothing and stepping out of the way. Welfare--personal and corporate--is choking us and will collapse the fiat money system we created and are abusing.

God help our offspring.

Posted by: windbag at August 24, 2026 12:21 PM (Few4S)

215 >>>Prolongs sex for males and avoids the refractory period. More young males have problems with too short of a period before ejaculation rather than too long.

Posted by: whig

>Ha! I recently watched a streaming video where the couple went from insertion to ejaculation in the time it took for the cell phone to stop ringing. Foreplay was the first two rings.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 24, 2026 12:21 PM (FR9Sb)

216 214 Hear, hear!

Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 12:22 PM (Jr5Lq)

217 Claude/Anthropic is spamming pro-AI ads all over YouTube
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 24, 2026 11:24 AM (xcxpd)

Haven't seen them. Every ad is either fucking Meowdoku or hard-on pills. And there are some rough looking chicks in that Rugiet Ready ad.

Posted by: Major boner killers at August 24, 2026 12:23 PM (TbWk/)

218 Weird. I just saw a post from ace about tranny mascots in the WNBA and now it's gone.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 24, 2026 12:26 PM (FZ29D)

219 ace just went full retard

Posted by: it puts the lotion in the basket at August 24, 2026 12:26 PM (ca8Qt)

220 Unkind disappearing nood.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 24, 2026 12:26 PM (3cUTc)

221 I'm sorry that not everyone has figured out how to deploy effective ad blockers yet. I urge them to keep trying.

Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 12:27 PM (Jr5Lq)

222
Lane Tech HS. It was the sixties. We spoke freely about such things back then. Anyway, I was paraphrasing, perhaps inaptly. Apologies!
Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 12:17 PM (Jr5Lq)

Wow.

My dad went to Lane Tech......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 12:31 PM (ccf/V)

223 Well... like electric cars, Musk is just a few years away from putting all the data centers out of business... by putting them up in space.
I would NOT be investing big time in terrestrial data centers.
But that's just me, I spect.

Posted by: MkY at August 24, 2026 12:32 PM (q6tQZ)

224 "My dad went to Lane Tech......"

My class was the last before they went co-ed.

Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 12:34 PM (Jr5Lq)

225 They are trying to build an AI data center near me, in Westlake, Texas. It will absolutely wreck the local water supply (which is already strained), it is getting all kinds of incentives, the building will be done by foreigners and long-term staff will be maybe 20 people, and they will increase our electricity even more to cover the connection to the local grid.

I am absolutely opposed to any of these developments because these retards haven't shown that they deserve trust in any capacity.

Plus LLM technology just sucks and it's going to burn out in less than 5 years, anyway, so we should absolutely wreck the local environment and economy for 60 months of VC-subsidized cat pictures and homework cheating.

Posted by: sunny-dee at August 24, 2026 12:45 PM (uS0pW)

226
My class was the last before they went co-ed.
Posted by: gp at August 24, 2026 12:34 PM (Jr5Lq)

I'd have to look and see if I can find when he was there. Not sure if it was coed or not. I just no my mom did his homework for him.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 24, 2026 12:51 PM (ccf/V)

227 I have long said that Greenland would be a great place for datacenters.

A lot of remote unused land
Naturally cold to aid in cooling the data centers
We have a military base in Greenland for security
We have a large cable line connecting Greenland

Build a couple of Nuke plants for power and what's not to love?

Posted by: Eric at August 24, 2026 12:53 PM (6VHHP)

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