Gun Thread: Next To Last August Edition!

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Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the Next To Last August Edition? Next week we have the final August edition and then start on September editions! See how that works? All that notwithstanding, its going to be a quick one tonight, so apologies in advance.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

Fundamentals of Texas MoMe'n, that is! Next week I'll start including 2026 TxMoMe information, and you won't want to miss that. Are you planning to attend? Have you started your TXMoMe preparations?

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Muzzleloaders

Last one you would give up? Why in tarnation would you give any of them up?

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More Revolver Fun

Revolvers. How the heck do they work?

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Impossible Shot?

Evidently not!

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Pocket Pistols

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Our Pal The Atlas Missile

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Highway Patrol!

This week's episode: Resort

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The H-Man!

Molecular terror!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo
Lucky Gunner Ammo NEW!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 23, 2026 07:00 PM (cpFbA)

2 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2026 07:00 PM (raF1/)

3 One for the Money

Posted by: Eromero at August 23, 2026 07:00 PM (LHPAg)

4 That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

No I have not, I have been remiss.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 23, 2026 07:00 PM (cpFbA)

5 Here.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 07:01 PM (v5IDs)

6 Good evening everyone

Earlier discussion was how to take out drones

Posted by: Skip at August 23, 2026 07:03 PM (Ia/+0)

7 Some soft music, soft lighting. Just be yourself!

Posted by: Common Tater at August 23, 2026 07:06 PM (+hxeP)

8 YES, I have definitely started MoMe preparations.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 23, 2026 07:06 PM (FHoaH)

9 Ten to get ready!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 23, 2026 07:10 PM (hOUT3)

10 It's quiet...too quiet.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2026 07:12 PM (raF1/)

11 Waiting for this. I consistently shoot low and to the left with a Sig 365x. So consistently, I get amazing golf ball size groupings of 12 shots.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 23, 2026 07:15 PM (bX16E)

12 My odds of cutting the x-ring on a paper target are much higher when I use an Atlas missile compared to a pocket pistol.

YMMV.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 23, 2026 07:16 PM (HlyYF)

13 YES, I have definitely started MoMe preparations.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 23, 2026 07:06 PM

Ditto. Looking forward to it!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2026 07:18 PM (raF1/)

14 11 Waiting for this. I consistently shoot low and to the left with a Sig 365x. So consistently, I get amazing golf ball size groupings of 12 shots.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 23, 2026 07:15 PM

Make your point of aim the perp's belt buckle.

I predict that your results will then deter him from advancing any further on you or your loved ones.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 23, 2026 07:18 PM (HlyYF)

15 My odds of cutting the x-ring on a paper target are much higher when I use an Atlas missile compared to a pocket pistol.

YMMV.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 23, 2026 07:16 PM

Are you aware that Atlas missles were not particularly known for either accuracy or reliability?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 07:19 PM (0sNs1)

16 Yay pocket pistols!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 23, 2026 07:19 PM (VyBeY)

17 If anyone was wondering what happened to Remington Arms after they fled New York for Lagrange, GA

Per the internet: RemArms owes $11 million to local contractors for work on the new plant. The contractors have filed liens against RemArms. There are now lawsuits in courts in Delaware and Georgia with allegations of mopery and dopery that go far beyond a simple manufacturing company just having some cash flow problems starting up a new plant.

Someone claiming to be "independent" has set up a website chronicling all the action: https://save-remington.org/

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 23, 2026 07:19 PM (2cxCi)

18 17
I think GA is almost as corrupt as NY!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 23, 2026 07:22 PM (hOUT3)

19 Are you aware that Atlas missles were not particularly known for either accuracy or reliability?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 07:19 PM

True.

But I also know that a .45 cuts a larger hole than a .22.

I think a W-38 warhead with a 3.75 megaton yield will make a much bigger hole ... even if I am a bit off the paper!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 23, 2026 07:22 PM (HlyYF)

20 Hi weasel!
Hi shooters!

Thanks for the thread.
Range report:

Rough week with Lucy the Fink being back in urgent care. Stress at work. Traffic jam on the way to the range.

Stress bombed 50 rounds of 9mm center target at ten yards in about five minutes.

Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh.

Then relaxed and plinked 100 rounds of .22.

Shoulda brought a shotty. They always make me smile.

Shooting is therapeutics and relaxing and stress relieving. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 07:22 PM (yEz+x)

21 I have heard a rumor, unreliable I hope, that a commenter, who does comment on this august August thread, and therefore should know better, commented that 10mm shooters are the atheist vegan Crossfitters of gun ranges.

10mm shooters are, IME, generally quite knowledgable, and generally proficient, much like .41 Magnum shooters.

To imply that they are loud in proclaiming the superiority of their chosen calibers, like those who prefer rounds in .32 caliber, is incorrect, and, indeed, scurrilous to an extreme.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 07:24 PM (0sNs1)

22 Shooting is therapeutics and relaxing and stress relieving. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 07:22 PM

^^^ This.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2026 07:26 PM (raF1/)

23 Still no recent range reports from Idiot Acres.

We recently had a week where the coolest high temperature was 105 degrees. The hottest day was 110.

I was afraid my ammo might cook off with a firearm just resting on the shooting table!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 23, 2026 07:30 PM (HlyYF)

24 Keeps the bears away, too. I've noticed they seem to understand what this means, whether from experience, or instinct, I don't know.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 23, 2026 07:30 PM (+hxeP)

25 Saw Tom Knapp at one of his exhibitions many years ago. Entertaining guy, and one hell of a shot. The world is less without him.

Posted by: irright at August 23, 2026 07:32 PM (++uDD)

26 I may have something to say here.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 07:32 PM (30Gj0)

27 I think a W-38 warhead with a 3.75 megaton yield will make a much bigger hole ... even if I am a bit off the paper!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 23, 2026 07:22 PM

Ok, I will stipulate that, with the provisos that getting it to launch reliably could be problematic, you are likely to need some sort of shoulder-mounted launch system, as holding it only in hand could be problematic, and assuming you get it to launch, somehow in the general direction of the sought-after X-ring, and don't flinch from the recoil, you may be a little close to the blast radius.

A .22 that one can reliably hit what one is aiming at beats larger caliber weapons that are hit-or-miss.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 07:32 PM (0sNs1)

28 26 I may have something to say here.
Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 07:32 PM

We'll never know now, will we?

Posted by: Gun Thread Comment #26 at August 23, 2026 07:34 PM (0sNs1)

29 22 Shooting is therapeutics and relaxing and stress relieving. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 07:22 PM

^^^ This.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2026 07:26 PM (raF1/)

D’oh. Copy pasta fail.
Now, I might have some to say here.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 07:34 PM (30Gj0)

30 Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 23, 2026 07:36 PM (NlEaG)

31 Good evening all
I have a Range Report!
The DMV MGC had a new recruit today. She had the competent support of Ed L and Iris for her premiere outing. Also present Blaster, Hrothgar, Stinky's Daddy and myself your intrepid reporter.
I also made a new purchase, got exactly what I wanted. Now I have to wait for it to arrive in MD to complete it and then wait 7 days to get it into my hands.
I have to buy 380 ammo. Can someone give me advice on grain weight?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 07:36 PM (kJmSS)

32 Went to the range with Morons and Iris brought a complete newbie. I think we converted her.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 23, 2026 07:38 PM (NlEaG)

33 I have to buy 380 ammo. Can someone give me advice on grain weight?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 07:36 PM (kJmSS)

Yes. A grain weighs 0.000143 pounds.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 07:39 PM (30Gj0)

34 Duncanthrax, that was very eloquently stated at comment 21. 😉

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 07:40 PM (kJmSS)

35 Red, stating a fact is not answering my question no matter how cleverly put. 😏

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 07:41 PM (kJmSS)

36 -
I have to buy 380 ammo. Can someone give me advice on grain weight?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 07:36 PM (kJmSS)

Yes. A grain weighs 0.000143 pounds.
Posted by: RI Red
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7000 of them weigh the same as a pound of feathers, even in a vacuum. Hope that helps.

Posted by: irright at August 23, 2026 07:42 PM (++uDD)

37 Hi Weasel!
And thanks once again for the Sunday can’t-miss-it. Because…Fundamentals, of course. And serious knowledge puttin’.
The Tex thing…I’m busy, but everyone there acted like they tolerated me, and some even laughed at some of my jokes. But you never really know until you put it out there.
So i want to see if I am able to go again…
I’d love to, but my work schedule is hellacious.
But mental health is critical, and shooting helps that!

Posted by: Gunslinger at August 23, 2026 07:43 PM (N91F8)

38 Sharon,

Honestly I can’t tell the difference. Just get what’s on sale and start shooting. You can fine tune with grain weights after several thousand rounds.

Or not.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 07:44 PM (c2jz5)

39 Posted by: Gunslinger at August 23, 2026 07:43 PM (N91F

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Hey bud! Drop Ben Had a note (see main page left sidebar) and let her know you would like to come back!

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 07:44 PM (G3lOb)

40 YES, I have definitely started MoMe preparations.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 23, 2026 07:06 PM

Ditto. Looking forward to it!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Ditto. In fact we're ready to go now!

Posted by: The Grateful - R at August 23, 2026 07:47 PM (XfIK1)

41 Thanks Nurse. Seems 380 is not terribly common but I am very excited. Hope I'll have it in time for next range date.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 07:47 PM (kJmSS)

42 Ok, Sharon, I will try to be helpful. .380 out of a tiny mouse gun needs all the help it can get.
90-95 grains works for me. Try it in Full Metal Jacket. If it cycles well, try it in Jacketed Hollow Point.
But if you have to use it in real life, it may expand poorly after going through layers of clothing.
So shoot them in the face.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 07:48 PM (LMRVO)

43 But if you have to use it in real life, it may expand poorly after going through layers of clothing.
So shoot them in the face.
Posted by: RI Red

Or during summer when they're just wearing a tank top?

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 23, 2026 07:50 PM (b/Ka5)

44 A lot of the pistol ammunition has been loaded "down" from original factory specs. Probably cheaper that way. I do like Buffalo Bore ammunition for any serious work, should some of the small calibers every be called upon for things other than punching paper.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 23, 2026 07:50 PM (+hxeP)

45 .380 out of a tiny mouse gun needs all the help it can get.

When I EDC'd a .380, it was filled with Corbons.

Posted by: Nan P. at August 23, 2026 07:51 PM (vTZFs)

46 I have to buy 380 ammo. Can someone give me advice on grain weight?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 07:36 PM

At this point, you would probably appreciate a more serious answer.

I'm assuming you want this for SD. I generally try to match my practice (FMJ) and SD (HP) ammo weights, so they will (in theory anyway) hit to the same point of aim.

Since most non-esoteric .380 ACP loads use 95 grain bullets, this usually isn't an issue.

Some folks don't consider HP in .380 a reliable expander, and therefore use FMJ for both range and SD.

My solution to this is to alternate HP and FMJ for SD usage.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 07:51 PM (0sNs1)

47 /saggy sock

Posted by: Oddbob at August 23, 2026 07:52 PM (vTZFs)

48 Or during summer when they're just wearing a tank top?
Posted by: She Hobbit at August 23, 2026 07:50 PM (b/Ka5)

Now we’re talking, She Hobbit! Navel may not be even covered. Watch the piercing, though.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 07:52 PM (LMRVO)

49 Thanks RI Red. I do take this stuff seriously and appreciate the advice. It was the only rational choice for tiny me if I expect to conceal it. I've been watching Lena Miculek videos and pretty psyched.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 07:52 PM (kJmSS)

50 33 I have to buy 380 ammo. Can someone give me advice on grain weight?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 07:36 PM (kJmSS)

The best I can do is look at the couple of 380 boxes I have and they’re 90 and 95 grain. I don’t know if that helps since my shooting skills are as rusty as the Tin Man when Dorothy found him.

Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 07:52 PM (SjAWL)

51 Would You Lay with Me (In a Field of Stone)
Song written and composed by David Allan Coe

Posted by: r hennigantx at August 23, 2026 07:53 PM (/+uur)

52 Didn't the straw man have a revolver? They should have capped the wicked witch, solved a lot of problems.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 23, 2026 07:55 PM (+hxeP)

53 Clarification: Alternate HP and FMJ is the same magazine.

Be sure to test the HP you'd like to use by using it exclusively for 200 to 300 rounds for feeding issues. If it passes, you can use it, or alternate with FMJ, as you please.

If it doesn't pass, try another brand.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 07:55 PM (0sNs1)

54 David Allan Coe

Posted by: r hennigantx at August 23, 2026 07:53 PM (/+uur)

Can't go wrong with a David Allan Coe song!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 23, 2026 07:56 PM (hOUT3)

55 Great time at the range this week. Practiced some techniques/suggestions given by Weasel at the NOVA pre-meet with my Colt Detective Special - thanks Weasel!. Single action accuracy was great, and able to shoot in pretty rapid succession. Double action, well, needs practice. Topped the session out shooting an M-1, CZ 600 30.06, and a S&W .357 Magnum. I'm still smiling.

Posted by: Patches at August 23, 2026 07:56 PM (338iJ)

56 Thanks RI Red. I do take this stuff seriously and appreciate the advice. It was the only rational choice for tiny me if I expect to conceal it. I've been watching Lena Miculek videos and pretty psyched.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 07:52 PM (kJmSS)

Yeah, Sharon. Although small, .380 means you can carry everywhere.
But practice a lot with it. In a small frame, it’s not particularly pleasant. I have a wrap-around Hogue on my Ruger LCP that helps with retention and grip.
Even with rudimentary sights, the extra long pull makes me focus on front sight, and I’m quite accurate with it.
Within minute of face.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 07:58 PM (LMRVO)

57 Good to see you Patches.

Posted by: Buck Ofama at August 23, 2026 07:58 PM (8z/Nh)

58 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Edward Liu at August 23, 2026 07:58 PM (BCwQW)

59 A .380 in your pocket when you need it always beats the red dotted, double stack, compensated 10mm you left at home.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 23, 2026 07:59 PM (2cxCi)

60 I'll probably start with FMJ, 95 grain. I don't have my CC permit yet so I need to get comfortable with it first. Make sure we are a good team. Eventually want to,put the Viridium optic on it but the iron sights seemed pretty clear, a bright green, so,want to learn the gun first.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 07:59 PM (kJmSS)

61 Hey Hrothgar!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 23, 2026 07:59 PM (YlYJ8)

62 .380? WWJBD?

Posted by: Eromero at August 23, 2026 08:00 PM (LHPAg)

63 A .380 in your pocket when you need it always beats the red dotted, double stack, compensated 10mm you left at home.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 23, 2026 07:59 PM

Why would one leave one's 10mm at home?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 08:00 PM (0sNs1)

64 Hi Weasel!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 23, 2026 08:00 PM (YlYJ8)

65 Can't go wrong with a David Allan Coe song!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 23, 2026 07:56 PM (hOUT3)

The idea was who wrote the best $$$ song as writer and also song it.

Jackety Jack Double Trouble
Mr Bojangles
It that how the chicken place got named

Posted by: r hennigantx at August 23, 2026 08:01 PM (/+uur)

66 .380? WWJMBD?
Posted by: Eromero at August 23, 2026 08:00 PM

May I suggest a minor edit?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 08:02 PM (0sNs1)

67 Although WWJMB(PBUH)D? might be even more appropriate.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 08:02 PM (0sNs1)

68 Why would one leave one's 10mm at home?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 08:00 PM (0sNs1)

Because one took the 20 mm instead?

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 08:02 PM (LMRVO)

69 I did something crazy this week, I bought a Benelli B76. Will probably be the wierdest thing I own. Hope to get this week and shoot on Fri.

Will probably only ever have 1 mag for it as they go for ~$200 if you can find them.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 23, 2026 08:03 PM (P4bJX)

70 WWJB

That was on all of my t-shirts for my fishing teams

Posted by: r hennigantx at August 23, 2026 08:04 PM (/+uur)

71 Why would one leave one's 10mm at home?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 08:00 PM (0sNs1)

Because one took the 20 mm instead?
Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 08:02 PM

If we're rollin' that heavy, I think I'd ask SMH if we could borrow one of her 105mm or 120mms. Even better if she drives it for us.

Go with the best, and all that ...

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 08:06 PM (0sNs1)

72 Ditto. In fact we're ready to go now!
Posted by: The Grateful - R at August 23, 2026 07:47 PM

Have gubs, will travel.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2026 08:07 PM (raF1/)

73 SMH, good to see you. It's been a while.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 08:07 PM (kJmSS)

74 Posted by: Patches at August 23, 2026 07:56 PM (338iJ)
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Excellent! Keep up the good work!

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 08:07 PM (G3lOb)

75 My only .380 is a CZ-83. Most naturally pointing handgun I've shot, but too heavy for carry, which I don't anyway. The weight makes it very mild in terms of recoil. Initial double action pull seems to send first round low absent extreme counter-measures, but single action that follows is easy.

Think I got the Hornady SD ammo after finding it to have the best penetration/expansion results in, probably, the Lucky Gunner test data. I only reload range fodder so I use 90g bullets. I'm using up my 700X acquired as "all there was available" during the last panic, but it works well.

Dang .380 cases from the CZ-83 go about 30 feet on a concrete deck, so recovering brass is a challenge.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 23, 2026 08:08 PM (U/Byj)

76 Roger that, DThrax.
SMH, got room for a couple of hitchhikers?

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 08:08 PM (LMRVO)

77 SMH, how you guys doing?

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 23, 2026 08:09 PM (hOUT3)

78 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew bang pshpsh at August 23, 2026 08:09 PM (sAmhv)

79 Weasel what's burning tonight?

At the tail end (hopefully) of a bad cold, so no cigar for me until tomorrow, if the symptoms continue to fade out.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 23, 2026 08:09 PM (U/Byj)

80 10mm is a legitimate 100 yd. cartridge. It the more robust loadings it gets near .41 Mag territory.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 08:13 PM (0sNs1)

81 I enjoy Hickock45's videos and I've watched them for years. But he chose the wrong rifle. It should have been the flintlock, not something 'modern' like the 1861 Springfield. For targets and hunting, not combat, the satisfaction of good shooting with a flinter is hard to beat.

Not that I have an opinion about the matter.

Posted by: JTB at August 23, 2026 08:13 PM (yTvNw)

82 Weasel, will you have some FAQs next week for those of us who might be making their inaugural pilgrimage to the famed MoMe? Having lurked for at least 15 years and averaged about 3.7 comments a year, I’ll have to summon up all the chutzpah I have to breach the inner sanctum. I think I’ll end up making the 3 hour drive up and back in a day. That way, I can at least be there to stick my toe in the proverbial water and maybe next time actually stay the entire day/evening. I’m still chewing on it.

Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:13 PM (SjAWL)

83 Puzzling absence of non-members with optics on bolts taking about 10 shots this past week. Typically in Aug/Sept/Oct the morning is filled with such guys zeroing in their rifles before heading off to wherever they're hunting.

Did have one "interesting" group. Without going into details, first two signed in with surname "Smith" - they're Middle Eastern, let's leave it at that. Despite that suspicious move they turned out to be friendly, though newbies who required close scrutiny and edumucation on firing line safety etiquette. One of them said he's already on the security team at, well, let's just say a local institution that was in the news for a shooting a few months back. He was reasonably gun-savvy, but wasn't focused on teaching his buddies.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 23, 2026 08:14 PM (U/Byj)

84 For some reason Youtube algorithm sent me a bunch of P226 West German rollmark videos so that is what I took today.

I shoot okay with it. My P365XL with a dot I shoot more accurately.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 23, 2026 08:17 PM (NlEaG)

85 60 I'll probably start with FMJ, 95 grain. I don't have my CC permit yet so I need to get comfortable with it first. Make sure we are a good team. Eventually want to,put the Viridium optic on it but the iron sights seemed pretty clear, a bright green, so,want to learn the gun first.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

For self defense, Hornady XTP Critical Defense 90 gr. Decent expansion, meets FBI criteria for penetration depth. Remington 102 gr Ultimate Defense is also in the sweet spot. Dunno if you can still get the Remington. Ammotogo Gel tests like the Sig Sauer V Crown Elite 90 gr hollowpoint.

All of these penetrate at least 14 inches in gel and expand to about .45-.50 inches.

You can get more expansion in 380 but less penetration, or more penetration and virtually no expansion. I carried and shot the Hornady XTP in a Sig Sauer P238. Functioned fine was accurate. I had to use the older Golden Saber Remington 102 gr for a Walther PPK back in the day. It's ogive worked for older pistols that were designed to fire full metal jacket rounds. Have not fired nor experienced the Sig Sauer V. Crown ammo.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 08:18 PM (E4rtv)

86 I’m still chewing on it.
Posted by: TxAnn

Chew faster and get on out there! Really the best time you'll have all year.

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 23, 2026 08:19 PM (b/Ka5)

87 Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:13 PM (SjAWL)

Do not miss an opportunity such as this!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 23, 2026 08:20 PM (hOUT3)

88 Hi SMH!

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 08:20 PM (G3lOb)

89 whig reminded me, I have the Hornady XTP in .380. Works fine from my CZ-83, but of course one needs to validate it in each firearm with a fair amount of test shooting.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 23, 2026 08:20 PM (U/Byj)

90 Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:13 PM (SjAWL)

And listen to the words of She Hobbit

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 23, 2026 08:21 PM (hOUT3)

91 80 10mm is a legitimate 100 yd. cartridge. It the more robust loadings it gets near .41 Mag territory.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

I dunno. I hit a human sized steel target at 100 yards with a 9mm pistol. Several times. Didn’t pay attention to grains. Seemed to work fine.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 08:21 PM (yEz+x)

92 Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:13 PM (SjAWL)
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How about this - send me an email at the address at the bottom of the thread.

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 08:22 PM (G3lOb)

93 Weasel,
Thanks for the Tom Knapp segment. I enjoyed his demonstrations on Shooting USA. Was sad to learn he passed away, fairly young, in 2013. That was about when we cut cable TV.

Posted by: JTB at August 23, 2026 08:22 PM (yTvNw)

94 I’ll have to summon up all the chutzpah I have to breach the inner sanctum. I think I’ll end up making the 3 hour drive up and back in a day. That way, I can at least be there to stick my toe in the proverbial water and maybe next time actually stay the entire day/evening. I’m still chewing on it.
Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:13 PM

*channels inner Zod*

You will do this. You will do this ~~now~~ in October.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2026 08:22 PM (raF1/)

95 81 I enjoy Hickock45's videos and I've watched them for years. But he chose the wrong rifle. It should have been the flintlock, not something 'modern' like the 1861 Springfield. For targets and hunting, not combat, the satisfaction of good shooting with a flinter is hard to beat.

Not that I have an opinion about the matter.

Posted by: JTB
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Flintlocks are right up there with matchlocks or wheel locks as a test for flinching. You get your own fireworks show up close enough to singe your eyebrows before making the shot.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 08:22 PM (E4rtv)

96 Posted by: rhomboid at August 23, 2026 08:09 PM (U/Byj)
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Just my good ol' standby Factory Smokes.

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 08:23 PM (G3lOb)

97 Hey Sharon!

Things are going well, Hrothgar, even with bug bites.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at August 23, 2026 08:25 PM (YlYJ8)

98 OK, cautionary tale up.
I blew up my PSA AR10.
Once-fired Hornady .308 brass. Usual Varget load fired hundreds of times. Case head separation right at the head.
The blast threw the BCG aft with vigor. Something left a gouge on the inside of the receiver.
The cam pin bent. It also deformed its track.
The firing pin retention pin bent.
Something hit the ballistic tip of the Hornady ELD-M round next up in the chamber. The bullet reseated itself backwards and the hydraulic pressure ruptured the cartridge, spreading unfired Varget all over. That primer continued aft and went off, but did not ignite anything.
The rupture blew apart the 20 round Pmag.
The quick release takedown pin deformed its mating point.
Minor bloody spots on shooter’s face.
Hint: Neon Madman, you were correct.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 08:25 PM (30Gj0)

99 I’ll have to summon up all the chutzpah I have to breach the inner sanctum. I think I’ll end up making the 3 hour drive up and back in a day. That way, I can at least be there to stick my toe in the proverbial water and maybe next time actually stay the entire day/evening. I’m still chewing on it.
Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:13 PM

Over the years, many folks have expressed similar feelings. To a person, they've all said it was one of the better (or higher) experiences they've had. Everyone (except me, who's the DC (Designated Curmugeon) is open, and extremely affiable. I kid you not. You're with a bunch of people who think like you do. It is very relaxing, and yet with stimulating conversations. You can shoot what ya brung, or there are plenty of things that people are happy to share to shoot (and help you learn, if needed) *IF* you want to. You can stay back and chat. Whatever you want.

The food. The food IS fantastic. We're talking above the level of Pulp Fiction's "gourmet sh*t". WAY above.

Try to get there before 9:00 am, even if it means foregoing a Buc-ee's stop (heresy, I know). You'll plan to leave around 5 or 6. You won't leave until 8 or later.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 08:25 PM (0sNs1)

100 Thanks, Weasel. I'm eyeing my inventory for tomorrow's (hoped for) return to the burn, and think I'll go for a La Palina No. 4, which I think was the last stick I reviewed here.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 23, 2026 08:25 PM (U/Byj)

101 TL;DR: Just do it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 08:25 PM (0sNs1)

102 Dang, RI Red. Assume you inspect your brass? What is our first guess about cause of separation?

Posted by: rhomboid at August 23, 2026 08:27 PM (U/Byj)

103 Having been proficient in a different sport, I’ve found repetition of the basics, into the thousands of reps, is compulsory before the fine tuning.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 08:28 PM (yEz+x)

104 Posted by: SMH at God's mercy

Good to hear that, and the bugs eventually go away!
Please give my regards to Ex-Ex!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 23, 2026 08:28 PM (hOUT3)

105 Good evening to all the GunHorde. (Interestingly enough, my cell phone is now almost completely anticipating this Sunday evening greeting) No range time or other shewtin, but getting ready for the beginning of hunting season. Friend and I are trying to help another fellow get back in the game. His right eye no longer works well enough, so he’s having to become a lefty shooter. We’re thinking
red dots for his two favorite deer guns. He’s tried them on other guys firearms and can use them well enough for 50-60 yards.

Have a great week all and as always, thank you to Weasel

Posted by: Coelacanth at August 23, 2026 08:28 PM (rmt7e)

106 Chew faster and get on out there! Really the best time you'll have all year.
Posted by: She Hobbit at August 23, 2026 08:19 PM (b/Ka5)

This is when those habits from your youth kick in and I keep equating it to going to a 50th HS reunion where everyone was in K-12 together, but you had to do all those years online. If that makes sense. Long term lurkers are a lot like Endora from Bewitched. We invisibly sit on the walls in our kaftans and blue eyeshadow and quietly watch everyone else. But that does get old!

Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:28 PM (SjAWL)

107 Just my good ol' standby Factory Smokes.
Posted by: Weasel

And they are good. Thanks for sharing with me last October. Was pleased to find my local place has them. Only problem now is my little humidor won't quite hold all 25 so I have to bag a few .

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 23, 2026 08:29 PM (b/Ka5)

108 FWIW, older design firearms don't necessarily like the short ogive XTP bullet, modern ones designed for hollowpoints starting about mid 80's onward normally do not have a problem with it. It is an extremely accurate bullet and if you do make reloads and practice with it, you can get Hornady's HAP line which duplicates the ballistics of the XTP but is not designed for expansion.

One of the few reasons to handload something popular like 9mm is that you can take expensive self defense ammo and replicate the ballistics with cheap bullets instead of the fancy and expensive hollowpoint or monolithic copper designs.

And if you have an old beloved semi auto that will not feed hollowpoints, Corbon's Pow'rball will work as the ogive is the same of round nose bullets but it has a giant polymer ball filling the tip so it expands nicely. Was at one time, you would have to check now on status, even legal in New Jersey as they could not call it a hollowpoint. Also comes in revolver cartridges. Light bullets, much faster, but penetrate less. They do expand quite well.

If you have to carry a 357 mag snubbie, Powrball is what I would use--less recoil, great expansion, accurate.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 08:30 PM (E4rtv)

109 TxAnn, I've been to a couple of TxMoMe's and it's a comfortable blast. Lots of nice folks. I've made some friends there and lots of serious acquaintances.

Be careful where you park your pickup . . . . . . .

Posted by: LRob in OK at August 23, 2026 08:31 PM (Jr+re)

110 Red, you blew up "my" AR10? Seriously?

Posted by: The Grateful - R at August 23, 2026 08:32 PM (XfIK1)

111 I mostly shot my G48 with green dot today. Kept having flyaways, like one out of every 5. Grip seemed okay so tried changing the part of my finger on the trigger and it seemed to make a difference. Need to keep practicing but felt like I'd made progress.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 08:33 PM (kJmSS)

112 G'night everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 23, 2026 08:33 PM (VyBeY)

113 TXAnn, lots of people come by themselves, including many women....You will find yourself welcomed and included and wonder why you didn't come to earlier MoMes...Ben Had is one of super hosts and seriously, you won't regret it for a minute...

Posted by: The Grateful - R at August 23, 2026 08:34 PM (XfIK1)

114 Spent some time this weekend at the range with my H&K CC9. I practiced some "El Presidente" drills after taking some warm up shots. I started at 10 yards but had to bring it in to 7 yards because I couldn't place my rounds near to the bullseyes. Speeding up my shots really reduced my accuracy. Trying to do the "El Presidente" at speed is a really tough challenge.

Posted by: Ed L at August 23, 2026 08:34 PM (BCwQW)

115 Rhomboid, 99% sure I know.
I went back to my loading bench, checked two reloading books and my scale. Nope, no dyslexia.
Most case head separation happens a bit forward of the head, where sizing thins the metal. You’ll see a ring on the outside and get a low spot if you run a paper clip inside. Nope, this was right at the head. And only once fired.
I also had PPU once-fired I loaded at the same time. I wanted to just compare them. The PPU operated flawlessly. 1/2

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 08:35 PM (30Gj0)

116 109
Be careful where you park your pickup . . . . . . .
Posted by: LRob in OK at August 23, 2026 08:31 PM
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If you didn't say it, I would have! 😂

TxAnn - we don't bite (mostly). Look forward to meeting you.

Posted by: TRex - kindler gentler dino at August 23, 2026 08:37 PM (XfIK1)

117 Red, glad you weren't hurt. dodged a bullet. Literally.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 08:38 PM (kJmSS)

118 Hint: Neon Madman, you were correct.
Posted by: RI Red

Glad you are okay.

Without a full sitrep, cannot tell exactly what happened but your experience does bring up one thing I do for semi automatic centerfire rifle reloading. I buy bullets with cannelures and use the Lee Factory Crimp Die with them. Also crimp my revolver and semi auto pistol ammo.

It has happened pistols have blown up from bullet setback from chambering, releasing and putting the bullet back on the top of the mag, and rechambering over several cycles. On something like a 9mm, it does not take seating much deeper for pressures to go well over +p territory. And if you chamber, release, and then rechamber the same round repeatedly and measure, you are likely to get setback.

With cannelures and a firm crimp, you miss gilt edge accuracy, but you don't risk bullet setback.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 08:39 PM (E4rtv)

119 TXAnn, lots of people come by themselves, including many women....You will find yourself welcomed and included and wonder why you didn't come to earlier MoMes...Ben Had is one of super hosts and seriously, you won't regret it for a minute...
Posted by: The Grateful - R at August 23, 2026 08:34 PM

^^^ All of this.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2026 08:39 PM (raF1/)

120 Be careful where you park your pickup . . . . . . .
Posted by: LRob in OK at August 23, 2026 08:31 PM (Jr+re)

Thank you LRob and after lurking for nigh on 2 decades, it’s the people who kept me coming back. Along with the rapier sharp wit and acerbic sarcasm of course. And the Seinfeld references,etc etc. But alas, I have a regular car. That’s one of my plethora of questions that I have.

Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:39 PM (SjAWL)

121 Punching out early tonight.

Thanks for a great Gun Thread, Weasel.

See y'all in the Morning Report.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2026 08:40 PM (raF1/)

122 TexAnn,
I go with my daughter who is now a senior in HS. She's been going for about 8 years or so. Since the mud MoMe and the great kitten give away.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 23, 2026 08:40 PM (VCgbV)

123 And, if you ever fire 9mm in revolvers, you need to watch for the opposite problem. Hard recoiling 9mm loads can actually act like a bullet puller on the other rounds in the cylinder and lock it up.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 08:41 PM (E4rtv)

124 I carry my pocket pistol as a back up and as my main carry when it's not practical to carry my full size carry. Sometimes that's when I make a quick run to the store when I'm in my workout clothes. I recently started to be semi-paranoid that if something went down I would be under armed and would be in more danger to engage with only six rounds of .380. I definitely decided that if that's all I had I would only engage as a last last resort.

Posted by: polynikes at August 23, 2026 08:42 PM (KC5Lt)

125 Ok, TxAnn, you can arrive in a car and park right up front!

If you feel the need, tell everyone you drove a Red Toyota.

You won't feel the need.

Posted by: LRob in OK at August 23, 2026 08:42 PM (Jr+re)

126 But when I was prepping the Hornady brass, the primers had all been crimped. I had to put them on my RCBS brass prep machine and ream out the primer holes. Most did fine, but there were a few that I couldn’t hold with my fingers - the reamer would just grab the brass and spin it. I took pliers with duct tape on the teeth to hold them in place. Even so, there was a lot of torque to overcome. The tape left some rings on the pressure points, but not gouges.
I’m pretty sure I put too much torsional stress on the brass right at the case head. 2/2

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 08:42 PM (30Gj0)

127 95 ... "Flintlocks are right up there with matchlocks or wheel locks as a test for flinching."

Good evening, whig,
Learning to overcome flinching and staying steady for the slightly slower ignition is part of the satisfaction of shooting flintlocks for me. Actually, the ignition of a well tuned flinter is about the same as percussion. I was lucky that I never flinched, probably because my prescription glasses were thick enough so I didn't feel endangered. Learning to hold steady was more of a challenge.

Posted by: JTB at August 23, 2026 08:42 PM (yTvNw)

128 Who was that jerk in the red Toyota???

Posted by: lin-duh at August 23, 2026 08:43 PM (VCgbV)

129 RI Red so we've got a bit of a mystery at this point. And I've been pondering whether to start doing the paper-clip test on my 30-06/M1 brass - which is 2- and 3-times fired HXP. I visually inspect closely, especially for the ring you talk about, so far nada. I've done the paper-clip test on a sample basis, yet to find any issues.

Long-time CMP types say they get up to 6 firings with good brass and low-end M1 loads (which is what I load). I've always figured I'd do 4 reloadings and then recycle it, just to be extra careful.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 23, 2026 08:43 PM (U/Byj)

130 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2026 08:40 PM (raF1/)
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Adios RMBS!

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 08:43 PM (G3lOb)

131 TxAnn - we don't bite (mostly). Look forward to meeting you.
Posted by: TRex - kindler gentler dino at August 23, 2026 08:37 PM (XfIK1)

Note that the poster who avers that we don't bite mostly is a theropod. Which is not a velociraptor. But related.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 23, 2026 08:44 PM (NlEaG)

132 Who was that jerk in the red Toyota???

I wasn't actually IN it at the beginning of the event . . . . .

Posted by: LRob in OK at August 23, 2026 08:44 PM (Jr+re)

133 Lesson. Brass is soft. 60,000 psi will test it.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 08:45 PM (30Gj0)

134 Red that seems like a pretty good explanation. Have never had that issue with rifle brass. But all that stress could not be good for the strength of the case.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 23, 2026 08:46 PM (U/Byj)

135 Should I plan on dragging my "panic buy" KAC SR-25A2 to TX? Technically, it's not an "AR-10," but it's pretty close. Because I hadn't planned on getting the thing, I still need to outfit it with optics and accessories. It'll need zeroing too because I haven't fired it yet (obviously).

Posted by: Ed L at August 23, 2026 08:46 PM (BCwQW)

136 103 Having been proficient in a different sport, I’ve found repetition of the basics, into the thousands of reps, is compulsory before the fine tuning.

Posted by: nurse ratched
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A lot of that tedious muscle memory can be gained by safely dry firing. I practice my draw upon movement about 10-20 times per session and snap off one dry fire shot. Then evaluate. Then reholster.

To be fair, I use open top holsters right now as I am trying to get back into shooting again and am rusty. Next will be failure drills--not as easy as at the range firing but can be done also safely without live ammo around.

Needless to say, always practice utmost caution when dry firing and always point and 'fire' at a safe backstop.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 08:47 PM (E4rtv)

137 I love that Hickox has enough of those muzzleloaders he can order them in terms of first and last.

Posted by: GWB at August 23, 2026 08:49 PM (kU0PQ)

138 Good evening, whig,
Learning to overcome flinching and staying steady for the slightly slower ignition is part of the satisfaction of shooting flintlocks for me. Actually, the ignition of a well tuned flinter is about the same as percussion. I was lucky that I never flinched, probably because my prescription glasses were thick enough so I didn't feel endangered. Learning to hold steady was more of a challenge.
Posted by: JTB

Flintlocks require full followthrough, I've shot one a time or two but really did not enjoy the experience years and years ago. I can see why others like it though. Time machine requiring excellent concentration on aiming and holding while distractions are going on.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 08:50 PM (E4rtv)

139 Lesson 2. Don’t be a cheap bastard and use/jealously hold onto once-fired brass that needs reworking just because it’s only once-fired.
And don’t reload range pickup brass. No provenance there at all.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 08:50 PM (30Gj0)

140 Wait... Tom Knapp?
That's not the Tom Knapp I worked with!
Fun to find a name doppelganger.

Posted by: GWB at August 23, 2026 08:50 PM (kU0PQ)

141 Ben Had is one of super hosts and seriously, you won't regret it for a minute...
Posted by: The Grateful - R at August 23, 2026 08:34 PM

^^^ All of this.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 23, 2026 08:39 PM (raF1/)

Ben Had graciously replied to my first email and I have no doubt I’d have no regrets. And since I was raised that you bring something to the host’s house, I’ve dug out the state of TX and semi automatic cookie cutters. I think I have a skull somewhere in the drawer. I decorate them on the side and would love to bring some if the headcount isn’t too obscene. The firearm cookies are for a limited audience. Wink wink.

Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:51 PM (SjAWL)

142 133 Lesson. Brass is soft. 60,000 psi will test it.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 08:45 PM
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Looking forward to reading your explanation to Emily.

Posted by: TRex - brass monkey dino at August 23, 2026 08:51 PM (XfIK1)

143 TXAnn,
Last year I arrived in a 2 seater little sports car....it's all good.....

Posted by: The Grateful - R at August 23, 2026 08:51 PM (XfIK1)

144 My Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless shoots .32 ACP fairly accurately at the ranges it's expected to be used at (10 yards and in). It's definitely not a pistol you'd want to use at 25 yards and beyond. The sights (thin blade front and narrow notch rear) are more of an afterthought compared to what we have today.

Posted by: Ed L at August 23, 2026 08:51 PM (BCwQW)

145 Muzzle loaders are almost always found in the "big bore" .50 cal and similar. They pack a bit of a wallop, I always wanted to get a 'squirrel rifle' in .32 or thereabouts. They use lots less powder and should be a lot of fun to shoot, as well as being kinder to shoulders. I think historically, they probably favored smaller calibers back in the day for a number of reasons.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 23, 2026 08:52 PM (+hxeP)

146 A liquid fueled ICBM like the Atlas had to be a bitch to maintain.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 23, 2026 08:52 PM (jPziU)

147 And I love my Beretta 30X Tomcat Get Home Bag Edition pocket pistol. I especially love that I can carry it cocked and locked or loaded and hammer down. Because they can't put an ambidextrous safety on it, and don't want to make a lefty version, I plan on carrying it hammer down and safety off if I need to carry it in my left pocket, firing double-action when I draw.

Yes, I will need to build muscle memory differently for left and right draws. And that complicates things.

I also need to make sure the hammer being down doesn't complicate the draw from the pocket holster.

Posted by: GWB at August 23, 2026 08:54 PM (kU0PQ)

148 Ben Had graciously replied to my first email and I have no doubt I’d have no regrets. And since I was raised that you bring something to the host’s house, I’ve dug out the state of TX and semi automatic cookie cutters. I think I have a skull somewhere in the drawer. I decorate them on the side and would love to bring some if the headcount isn’t too obscene. The firearm cookies are for a limited audience. Wink wink.
Posted by: TxAnn
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Sounds great, hope I get to taste one!

Posted by: The Grateful - R at August 23, 2026 08:54 PM (XfIK1)

149 And thanks, Weasel.
Thanks, Horde.

Posted by: GWB at August 23, 2026 08:54 PM (kU0PQ)

150 Posted by: GWB at August 23, 2026 08:54 PM (kU0PQ)
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My pleasure

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 08:56 PM (6tnon)

151 126 But when I was prepping the Hornady brass, the primers had all been crimped. I had to put them on my RCBS brass prep machine and ream out the primer holes. Most did fine, but there were a few that I couldn’t hold with my fingers - the reamer would just grab the brass and spin it. I took pliers with duct tape on the teeth to hold them in place. Even so, there was a lot of torque to overcome. The tape left some rings on the pressure points, but not gouges.
I’m pretty sure I put too much torsional stress on the brass right at the case head. 2/2
Posted by: RI Red
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That was a pretty spectacular case head separation to do all that. Glad you are okay.

Are you sure that you did not get an out of battery firing that caused the case head failure?

The damage sounds more like that or a chamber obstruction preventing full seating of the round when it let go.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 08:56 PM (E4rtv)

152 Red, you blew up "my" AR10? Seriously?
Posted by: The Grateful - R at August 23, 2026 08:32 PM (XfIK1)
Looking forward to reading your explanation to Emily.
Posted by: TRex - brass monkey dino at August 23, 2026 08:51 PM (XfIK1)

Grateful, yes. The one you were shooting 8-900 yards with. “We” may have to do a rebuild.
TRex, I’m holding that in reserve. She’s very busy with teaching the Constitution and supervising her place in my novel.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 08:57 PM (30Gj0)

153 131 TxAnn - we don't bite (mostly). Look forward to meeting you.
Posted by: TRex - kindler gentler dino at August 23, 2026 08:37 PM (XfIK1)

Note that the poster who avers that we don't bite mostly is a theropod. Which is not a velociraptor. But related.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 23, 2026 08:44 PM (NlEaG)

Thank y’all for the kind words. But I’ll obviously need to bring my spiral notebook titled “Words that I learned on AoSHQ and need to look as I have no clue what they mean”. I find myself in the Scripps spelling bee breaking down the syllables to figure them out.

Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:58 PM (SjAWL)

154 I always wanted to get a 'squirrel rifle' in .32 or thereabouts.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 23, 2026 08:52 PM (+hxeP)

I recall waaaay back (middle school?) reading a story where they talked about "squirreling" with a large caliber muzzleloader. The idea was to hit the branch the tree rat was sitting on immediately next to him, so close that the impact stunned him and knocked him to the ground. Then you went up and dispatched him with a knife. You don't destroy any of the meat that way, either, since there ain't much on a tree rat.

Posted by: GWB at August 23, 2026 08:58 PM (kU0PQ)

155 And liquid-fuel rockets come with significant safety issues as well (and readiness issues, if that's relevant, since unlike solid-fuel they're not always in launch condition). A couple of Titan II's had incidents involving rupture of fuel tanks/fumes/BLAMMO. One incident launched the payload about 800 yards, impacting in a farm (this was in AR). Wags at the time quickly amended the range stats on the Titan II from intercontinental to 800 yds.

I recall some overhead imagery of a Soviet SS-18 (they're biggest ICBM) in the late 80s that had gone BLAMMO just after launch (they were cold-launched with gas, like SLBMs, to clear the silo, before ignition). The crater was .... impressive.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 23, 2026 08:59 PM (U/Byj)

156 122 TexAnn,
I go with my daughter who is now a senior in HS. She's been going for about 8 years or so. Since the mud MoMe and the great kitten give away.
Posted by: lin-duh at August 23, 2026 08:40 PM (VCgbV
That was the Eromero’s first one, not missed one since. This October may be close.

Posted by: Eromero at August 23, 2026 08:59 PM (LHPAg)

157 And, if you ever fire 9mm in revolvers, you need to watch for the opposite problem. Hard recoiling 9mm loads can actually act like a bullet puller on the other rounds in the cylinder and lock it up.

I had that happen with the first batch of .45 Colt that I loaded. A good crimp solved the issue.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 23, 2026 09:00 PM (MQlXG)

158 One incident launched the payload about 800 yards, impacting in a farm (this was in AR).

A friend of mine was an SP on duty there. It made for an exciting couple of weeks.

I believe the cause of the rupture was a dropped socket. Not the whole wrench - just a socket.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 23, 2026 09:02 PM (NlEaG)

159 147 And I love my Beretta 30X Tomcat Get Home Bag Edition pocket pistol. I especially love that I can carry it cocked and locked or loaded and hammer down.
Posted by: GWB
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GWB, glad for the report. I have seen them in ads, seen them in a glass case at a retailer, but never picked up one to fire.

But, by all accounts, they are primo pocket pistols that I was afraid I was going to have to adopt because of diminished hand strength to rack the slide.

For those with diminished hand strength or severe arthritis, having a semi auto like the Beretta 30X that you can load without racking the slide is a blessing.

Fortunately, with pt, that seems to be coming back--some question whether it would. Coordination is improving too.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:02 PM (E4rtv)

160 Are you sure that you did not get an out of battery firing that caused the case head failure?

The damage sounds more like that or a chamber obstruction preventing full seating of the round when it let go.
Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 08:56 PM (E4rtv)

Whig, that crossed my mind. The damage is more than I’d expect from case head separation. The round before hit the 200 steel and rang it.
I’m also thinking that I did not have great primer seating with those tight pockets. Not sure if that would prevent full seating.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 09:02 PM (30Gj0)

161 Just saw a great commercial on the internet for Blue Chew.

It starts off stating thousands of beavers are running out of hard wood and shows a beaver chewing on a log.

Then it switches to a picture of a woman with large breasts and tight shorts that says you need to take care of these beavers.....

Posted by: Jackson K. at August 23, 2026 09:02 PM (NlHgc)

162 Out of battery, I mean.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 09:03 PM (30Gj0)

163 RI Red, I'd be more than happy to help you rebuild it. That was a mighty fine weapon, and one that was very kind to me.
Eromero,, I understand but truly hope we get to see you in TX

Posted by: The Grateful - R at August 23, 2026 09:03 PM (XfIK1)

164 But I’ll obviously need to bring my spiral notebook titled “Words that I learned on AoSHQ and need to look as I have no clue what they mean”.
Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:58 PM (SjAWL)

You know they're all gonna sneak that notebook away from you and write new words in it. Just because.

Posted by: GWB at August 23, 2026 09:03 PM (kU0PQ)

165 A liquid fueled ICBM like the Atlas had to be a bitch to maintain.
Posted by: Cow Demon at August 23, 2026 08:52 PM (jPziU)

That's because liquid fuel ICBM are scary because the early fuels were notoriously unstable. Early ICBMs could not stay fueled; they were fueled only if put on alert. Titan II was the last US ICBM to use liquid fuel. The hydrazine used within that liquid fuel was more stable, but it's really toxic and became unstable when leaks in the fuel system occurred, usually leading to explosions of the fuel. This led to the deaths of a couple of USAF crewmen in 1978 and 1980 due to mishaps and aged equipment. The USAF decided to retire Titan II in 1982 for this reason; the aging missiles had never been intended to stay in service as long as they had (20+ years).

Posted by: Ed L at August 23, 2026 09:03 PM (BCwQW)

166 blaster yep I recall a wrench - or I guess a socket - was ID'd as the cause. Fuel tanks are of course very thin/light, so a rupture was the main safety issue.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 23, 2026 09:04 PM (U/Byj)

167 I had that happen with the first batch of .45 Colt that I loaded. A good crimp solved the issue.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen

A good roll crimps are necessary for revolvers. It also helps accuracy by allowing consistent gas pressure to occur behind the bullet.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:04 PM (E4rtv)

168 This led to the deaths of a couple of USAF crewmen in 1978 and 1980 due to mishaps and aged equipment. The USAF decided to retire Titan II in 1982 for this reason; the aging missiles had never been intended to stay in service as long as they had (20+ years).
Posted by: Ed L

The Titan that exploded in 1980 near Damacus Arkansas blew up the silo and launched the nuclear warhead a couple of hundred yards away.

Devastating damage.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:06 PM (E4rtv)

169 This is where I thank each and everyone that makes TX in October your place to be. Greatest family reunion ever!

Posted by: Ben Had at August 23, 2026 09:07 PM (FHoaH)

170 Greatest family reunion ever!
Posted by: Ben Had
*****
Truth!

Posted by: The Grateful - R at August 23, 2026 09:08 PM (XfIK1)

171 Hey weasel! Any critter reports?

How’s the farm-o?

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 09:08 PM (yEz+x)

172 Since the mud MoMe and the great kitten give away.
Posted by: lin-duh at August 23, 2026 08:40 PM

Ace Ben Had, the TxMoMe cat said to say "Salutations and felinecitations" to you and Spawn.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 09:08 PM (0sNs1)

173 The Titan that exploded in 1980 near Damacus Arkansas blew up the silo and launched the nuclear warhead a couple of hundred yards away.

Devastating damage.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:06 PM (E4rtv)

I remember seeing pictures of the aftermath from the current events part of one of my junior high school classes.

Posted by: Ed L at August 23, 2026 09:09 PM (BCwQW)

174 For those with diminished hand strength or severe arthritis, having a semi auto like the Beretta 30X that you can load without racking the slide is a blessing.
Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:02 PM (E4rtv)

Glad to hear the PT is working! And you would still enjoy the Beretta, IMO.

One nice thing about it is that you can also UNload the chamber without dropping the magazine, if there's some odd reason to do that.

One thing I do, since (being a .32 semi) hollow points are not as great at feeding the thing and might not be as effective at stopping... I load my magazine with ball, and load my first round direct to the barrel as a hollow point.

I don't know if it's as effective as my mind has made it out to be, but it's nice to be able to easily do that with the tip-up feature.

Posted by: GWB at August 23, 2026 09:09 PM (kU0PQ)

175 Great day at the range.
Thanks for all the advice. Still a newby when it comes to a lot of things.
Have great week all.
🤠❤️

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 23, 2026 09:09 PM (kJmSS)

176 153 But I’ll obviously need to bring my spiral notebook titled “Words that I learned on AoSHQ and need to look as I have no clue what they mean”.

Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:58 PM
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Says the person that just typed "semi automatic cookie cutters" in a gun thread, presuming that people know you're talking about baking at scale.

Posted by: TRex - post-Velociraptor dino at August 23, 2026 09:10 PM (XfIK1)

177 You know they're all gonna sneak that notebook away from you and write new words in it. Just because.
Posted by: GWB at August 23, 2026 09:03 PM (kU0PQ)

lol. There’s also words that pop up like ersatz, which I know, but I never hear it used. Ululating was one that stumped me not too long ago.

Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 09:11 PM (SjAWL)

178 Whig, that crossed my mind. The damage is more than I’d expect from case head separation. The round before hit the 200 steel and rang it.
I’m also thinking that I did not have great primer seating with those tight pockets. Not sure if that would prevent full seating.
Posted by: RI Red
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Possible. A high primer could do it. I use a fingernail test on all my rounds, at least for me, I can feel a high primer better scraping my fingernail across the case head than I can see one.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:11 PM (E4rtv)

179 176 153 But I’ll obviously need to bring my spiral notebook titled “Words that I learned on AoSHQ and need to look as I have no clue what they mean”.

Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:58 PM
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Says the person that just typed "semi automatic cookie cutters" in a gun thread, presuming that people know you're talking about baking at scale.
Posted by: TRex - post-Velociraptor dino

Heh.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 09:11 PM (aP2uV)

180 Btw. Anyone seen BarelyScaryMary?

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 09:12 PM (aP2uV)

181 the aging missiles had never been intended to stay in service as long as they had (20+ years).
Posted by: Ed L at August 23, 2026 09:03 PM (BCwQW)

We have a lot of those sorts of things in the Air Force....

We need more muzzleloading types to pull the AF back from the tech fanboi edge and actually plan some "aircraft that will last forever" stuff. IMO.

Posted by: GWB at August 23, 2026 09:12 PM (kU0PQ)

182 The "Damascus" incident.

A large socket, a few pounds, fell off the ratchet and fell through a crack on the workstand and the missile and dropped approximately 70 feet, took a bad bounce and hit the missile body causing a hole, causing it to leak oxidizer or fuel or whatever. They used hypergolic stuff for those missiles.

Aerozine 50, nitrogen tetroxide, all that shit is really bad stuff to breathe. The whole thing was a CF of epic proportion.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 23, 2026 09:13 PM (+hxeP)

183 With the latest upgrade planned, the BUFF may well be flying on airframes 100 years old.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 23, 2026 09:13 PM (0sNs1)

184 Whig, now I’m really considering a high primer. I have no experience with case head separation right at the head and am considering the mechanics of out of battery kaboom.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 09:14 PM (30Gj0)

185 Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 09:08 PM (yEz+x)
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The farm-o is great. Gertie had a dentist appointment and had to have a bunch of extractions, and a funny bump removed from her leg and sent to the boys in the lab for analysis. She's being a trooper though!

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 09:14 PM (6tnon)

186 One thing I do, since (being a .32 semi) hollow points are not as great at feeding the thing and might not be as effective at stopping... I load my magazine with ball, and load my first round direct to the barrel as a hollow point.

I don't know if it's as effective as my mind has made it out to be, but it's nice to be able to easily do that with the tip-up feature.
Posted by: GWB
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The importance of a hit on the first shot cannot be overly praised enough. And your checks on reliability with self defense ammo by firing it are something a lot of people skip because of expense.

There is a reason for the old saying of beware a man with one gun, he probably knows how to use it.

And thanks for the encouragement on PT. I start occupational therapy after Labor Day which focuses solely on the hands and dexterity. Right now in general surgical recovery PT trying to ensure strengthening the back and arm muscles again from atropy.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:15 PM (E4rtv)

187 Ok, 9:17 thank you time.

Thank you!

Appreciate you being here and hope to see you next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 09:17 PM (6tnon)

188 Says the person that just typed "semi automatic cookie cutters" in a gun thread, presuming that people know you're talking about baking at scale.
Posted by: TRex - post-Velociraptor dino

Heh.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 09:11 PM (aP2uV)

Touché.

Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 09:19 PM (SjAWL)

189 184 Whig, now I’m really considering a high primer. I have no experience with case head separation right at the head and am considering the mechanics of out of battery kaboom.
Posted by: RI Red

My case head separation event was in a 303 Lee Enfield which is hard on the brass anyway. All I did was see a poof of smoke from the gas vents and the case head came back with no case attached. Used a case extractor on it to remove the case. Left some powder marks that scrubbed out in teh chamber. It was no big deal and with that big rimmed case that seals the chamber, even less exciting than it would have been had I used a Springfield or other Mauser design.

Rimmed cases were used to make up for horrific brass quality prior to WWI.

But yes, from the damage, it might have been an out of battery explosion--whether by a high primer or a case that did not quite chamber due to debris in the chamber or case eccentricity.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:21 PM (E4rtv)

190 Whig, many thanks. That’s why I come here. Great advice and experience.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 09:22 PM (30Gj0)

191 175 Great day at the range.
Thanks for all the advice. Still a newby when it comes to a lot of things.
Have great week all.
🤠❤️
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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I like a Happy Ending post. You have a great week too. Want to hear more about your new self protection pistol.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:22 PM (E4rtv)

192 92 Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 08:13 PM (SjAWL)
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How about this - send me an email at the address at the bottom of the thread.
Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 08:22 PM (G3lOb)

Thanks Weasel, I’ll send one tomorrow with some of my questions. I’m actually taking a UCCSA fundamentals lesson tomorrow because I’m that rusty.

Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 09:24 PM (SjAWL)

193 We need more muzzleloading types to pull the AF back from the tech fanboi edge and actually plan some "aircraft that will last forever" stuff. IMO.
Posted by: GWB at August 23, 2026 09:12 PM (kU0PQ)

It wasn't that long ago (still in living memory, I think) that planes were retired as obsolete and useless for further combat service after ten or fewer years in service (B-58, B-36, F7U Cutlass, F4D Skyray, and many of the first generation of combat jets). The F-4 Phantom was the first "long lived" jet fighter in service, and the B-52's place as a "forever" bomber really came about by accident after the programs to replace it (B-70, B-1) got cancelled due to cost. The advent of 3D printing might help prolong aircraft lives because lack of spares for out of production planes is what ends their service lives. The F-14's service life ended because no more spare parts were available for it when the USN retired it in 2006, not because the planes weren't capable anymore in the early 2000s. This why the USAF and USN have hundreds of planes in the Davis-Monthan "boneyard" so the hulks can be harvested for spares that are no longer available.

Posted by: Ed L at August 23, 2026 09:29 PM (BCwQW)

194 145 ... "Muzzle loaders are almost always found in the "big bore" .50 cal and similar. They pack a bit of a wallop, I always wanted to get a 'squirrel rifle' in .32 or thereabouts. They use lots less powder and should be a lot of fun to shoot, as well as being kinder to shoulders."

Even with a 50 caliber muzzleloader the recoil is less than most modern centerfire rifles. To me it feels more like a push while a modern gun slams into you. A 32 caliber muzzleloader is a pleasure to use. Recoil like a 22lr, very accurate, and inexpensive to shoot. At 15 to 20 grains a shot a pound of black powder will give you about 350 to over 400 loads.

I've read accounts of 'barking' squirrels with larger calibers but have never seen it done. A 20 gauge smoothbore would probably be more efficient and not ruin the meat.

Posted by: JTB at August 23, 2026 09:30 PM (yTvNw)

195 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at August 23, 2026 09:30 PM (BCwQW)

196 190 Whig, many thanks. That’s why I come here. Great advice and experience.
Posted by: RI Red
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Anything I can do to keep people safe. I tend to be an old wet hen on firearms and power tools because I have seen too many examples where things went pear shaped.

Once knew a guy on the forum who liked to do what PO Ackley did. Test old rifles until they blew up. And he would regularly come onto the forum with his latest escapade.

Nephew and his grandfather who should have known better, blew up a rotten old tree with a helluva lot of Tannerite tucked into it. It threw splinters and big branches at them and damn near hit them with it.

FWIW, We used a derivation of that formula for AF Civil Engineering to blow up runways to deny them to the enemy in training.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:31 PM (E4rtv)

197 Thanks Weasel, I’ll send one tomorrow with some of my questions. I’m actually taking a UCCSA fundamentals lesson tomorrow because I’m that rusty.
Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 09:24 PM (SjAWL)
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If it's easier we can just have a call. Happy to discuss all of your questions!

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 09:32 PM (G3lOb)

198 Thanks Weasel for this week's thread.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:33 PM (E4rtv)

199 Weasel,
Thanks for another fun thread. Best to Weasel Woman and the canine crew.

Posted by: JTB at August 23, 2026 09:33 PM (yTvNw)

200 Reloaded ammo in semiautomatic rifles. Look up "slam fire." Basically, an improperly sized case of too-large diameter tries to chamber. The cartridge stops before the bolt locks. The firing pin keeps moving forward inside the bolt. Firing pin strikes primer. Primer ignites. Bad things then happen.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 23, 2026 09:33 PM (2cxCi)

201 Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:33 PM (E4rtv)
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My pleasure. Thanks whig

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 09:33 PM (G3lOb)

202 Nite JTB!

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 09:34 PM (G3lOb)

203 Posted by: Ed L at August 23, 2026 09:30 PM (BCwQW)
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Thanks for tuning in, Ed L!

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 09:35 PM (G3lOb)

204 Ok, gonna go. Big day tomorrow. Gotta talk with Palmetto State Armory about parts. Dentist, then Junior’s truck for AC recharge before he’s back ashore next week.
Thx, Weasel. This place is great. I might have said that before.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 09:35 PM (30Gj0)

205 RI Red, I did that too! One of my 6 Creedmoor's sheared a cam pin, first shot from a 25 round mag. Bullets all over the bench. I sent a pic to Faxon and they sent me a new BCG without asking for the old one so I replaced the cam pin and am still using the old one. I made out ok on that deal, except for the mag!

Posted by: ck at August 23, 2026 09:36 PM (JKvyz)

206 Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 09:35 PM (30Gj0)
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Nite Amigo!

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 09:36 PM (G3lOb)

207 Heh. Cubbies scored 19 runs on 17 hits vs the Mariners today.

Mariners still won the series.

Neener Neener Neener.
Your mother has a weiner.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 09:37 PM (yEz+x)

208 If it's easier we can just have a call. Happy to discuss all of your questions!
Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 09:32 PM (G3lOb)

That would be even better. Thanks so much!!! And thanks to all for the reinforcement!

Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 09:37 PM (SjAWL)

209 Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 09:37 PM (SjAWL)
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You bet. Just drop me a line!

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 09:38 PM (G3lOb)

210 ck, sorry to hear!
We’ll see how PSA is with warranty. They replaced some other stuff without question.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 09:39 PM (30Gj0)

211 200 Reloaded ammo in semiautomatic rifles. Look up "slam fire." Basically, an improperly sized case of too-large diameter tries to chamber. The cartridge stops before the bolt locks. The firing pin keeps moving forward inside the bolt. Firing pin strikes primer. Primer ignites. Bad things then happen.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

It can but AR designs use a light firing pin and heavier primer cup to prevent that. Reason you use CCI's military small and large rifle primers for any semi auto firearm (ok for full auto too but only Ed L I think has surfaced as owning at least one of those).

I check gage all semi automatic rounds and have a gang unit for multiple 9mm and 223. Revolvers or even most bolt actions don't have the problem. It won't fit into a revolver cylinder if out of spec and a bolt action has enough leverage to force something closed that perhaps you might not should.

In fact, the 1917/P14 Enfield leverage is so great that you can ruin a check gage by closing on a gage when the chamber is actually fine. I did one of those after replacing a barrel and yes, I can see very easily why the DCM (before the CMP) got a lot of complaints about 1917 Rifles' headspace.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:40 PM (E4rtv)

212 210 ck, sorry to hear!
We’ll see how PSA is with warranty. They replaced some other stuff without question.
Posted by: RI Red
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Don't tell them it was reloads. Lots of firearm mfg won't cover that.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:40 PM (E4rtv)

213 TxAnn
Be warned, once you make individual contact with weasel, you will be so comfortable and reassured, your next stop will be in Corsicana. Between him and BenHad, you will be welcomed like family. Seriously. It’s a lovely gathering of thoughtful, funny and caring people.

Hope to meet you!

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 09:41 PM (yEz+x)

214 Don't tell them it was reloads. Lots of firearm mfg won't cover that.
Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:40 PM (E4rtv)

I cannot tell a lie.
Well, maybe a little one. But only if they don’t read this thread.

Posted by: RI Red - at August 23, 2026 09:42 PM (30Gj0)

215 Your mother has a weiner.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Ugh. I think that chant would be a hate crime in Seattle.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:43 PM (E4rtv)

216 Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 09:41 PM (yEz+x)
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Not true! I'm a dangerous lunatic!

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 09:43 PM (G3lOb)

217
I cannot tell a lie.
Well, maybe a little one. But only if they don’t read this thread.
Posted by: RI Red
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They might ask, but a fuzzy memory is a good thing to have at times. But, I have heard Palmetto is good peeps on warranty, never had dealings on that end but always got my orders and customer service from them just fine.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:44 PM (E4rtv)

218 Oh, for what it is worth, Aeroprecision right now is in financial distress along with its subsidiaries--

"Aero Precision is not bankrupt but entered a Washington state general receivership on May 5, 2026, due to severe financial distress and insolvency. The company, owned by White Wolf Capital, faces massive debt, including a $30 million loan from 2018 and unpaid vendor bills, exacerbated by post-pandemic market slowdowns and legal costs from Washington’s assault weapon ban.

While no federal Chapter 7 or Chapter 11 bankruptcy has been filed, the court-appointed receiver, J.S. Held LLC, is managing assets to satisfy creditors, with a warning that unsecured creditors may receive no distribution. In August 2026, the business was sold to a new private ownership group, with all four brands (Aero Precision, Ballistic Advantage, Stag Arms, VG6) continuing operations, though order fulfillment remains slower than normal. "

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:46 PM (E4rtv)

219 >>> 113 TXAnn, lots of people come by themselves, including many women....You will find yourself welcomed and included and wonder why you didn't come to earlier MoMes...Ben Had is one of super hosts and seriously, you won't regret it for a minute...
Posted by: The Grateful - R at August 23, 2026 08:34 PM (XfIK1)

Some Moron even drove down all the way from CO the first year.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 23, 2026 09:49 PM (+fdRY)

220 Welp, time to sign out for the night. Have a nice end to the weekend folks.

Posted by: whig at August 23, 2026 09:52 PM (E4rtv)

221 That's too bad about Aero and Ballistic Advantage, I have a bunch of Aero receivers and 6 Ballistic Advantage barrels, my favorite barrels!!

Posted by: ck at August 23, 2026 09:55 PM (JKvyz)

222 Nite y'all!

Posted by: Weasel at August 23, 2026 09:59 PM (G3lOb)

223 That's too bad about Aero and Ballistic Advantage

As I understand it, they're not dead. Yet anyway. Here's hoping that the new owners/backers/whatever they are can pull them through. I've had my issues with Aero's QC and customer service but when the parts are good, they're good.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 23, 2026 10:00 PM (vTZFs)

224 ONT nood

Posted by: LRob in OK at August 23, 2026 10:04 PM (Jr+re)

225 213 Hope to meet you!
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 23, 2026 09:41 PM (yEz+x)

Thank you nurse. I’m pretty sure I’ll either a) come up Friday during the day, hopefully in time to fire something (firearm yet to be determined), loiter until evening, stay at the hotel and then swing by back Saturday morning before I head home. I’m not a fan of driving by myself at night no matter how much firepower is with me. Or b) due to logistics I drive up at the crack of dawn on Friday or Saturday and leave around 3 pm the same day. I’d like to work in a stop at my old college roommate’s place in Temple. So we’ll see. But yes, I look forward to meeting one of the PNW’s finest of first responders. 🫡

Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 10:20 PM (SjAWL)

226 But yes, I look forward to meeting one of the PNW’s finest of first responders. 🫡
Posted by: TxAnn at August 23, 2026 10:20 PM (SjAWL)

Never forget that everyone is a “first responder”. Hence, we carry. And should know at least basic first aid.

: )

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 23, 2026 10:28 PM (jPziU)

227 We have a lot of those sorts of things in the Air Force....

We need more muzzleloading types to pull the AF back from the tech fanboi edge and actually plan some "aircraft that will last forever" stuff. IMO.
Posted by: GWB at August 23, 2026 09:12 PM (kU0PQ)

I can’t get over the fact that B-52s today are being flown by pilots whose grandfathers may have well flown them. What a beast.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 23, 2026 10:32 PM (jPziU)

228 Late but guns!

Did get to the range for some G30 range time. I wanted to see if it would chamber my shitty 230gr JHP rounds from Sellier and Bellot. The brand is fine but this bullet design basically makes 75% of my .45s puke. I'll say that the G30 fed it fine. Yea.

I did run into one weird thing, my slow fire drills had lots of failures, light primer strikes mostly. But my fast fire drills had zero malfunctions. I don't understand that yet. Very strange. Still, admirable accuracy from the G30 but the trigger is a bit stiff...makes me force the break more than I'd like, throwing rounds low and left.

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